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Sunday, October 14th, 2007, 00:00 UTC

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Daviey:

cesman: I'm thinking of making an 'alternate' debian-installer text version... so might end up picking your brains soon – if thats okay :)

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cesman:

grab the ISO and take a look at /usr/local/bin/KnoppMyth-main, auto, install and upg

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Daviey:

will do.. thanks

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Rain_man:

any recomendations on a good MOBO for ubuntu install and optical sound

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cesman:

no worries

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cesman:

just come into #knoppmyth

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Daviey:

I'll join and lurk if thats okay

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cesman:

either rdt (as he rewrote the installers) or I will be happy to help

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cesman:

thats fine

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Rain_man:

my 3.2 celeron doesnt have enough horsepower so might as well get something good

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cesman:

but do say hi from time to time

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cesman:

Rain_man: horsepower for what? HD?

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Rain_man:

yes

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Rain_man:

it works but its at about 90%

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Rain_man:

brows mode in live tv is slow

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cesman:

perhaps a video card that supports XvMC?

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Rain_man:

browse

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Rain_man:

got one(6200 Nvidia)

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cesman:

ok

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Rain_man:

was thinking either of getting a pentium D for current board or getting all new with spdif optical sound

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cesman:

well, a D and soundcard will be less $$

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Rain_man:

thats what i was thinking but wasnt sure what size D i would need, maybe 3.2?

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cesman:

should be plenty of horsepower

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Rain_man:

how is the D compared to a core 2

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cesman:

for specifics, I'd suggest you google

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Rain_man:

ok ill do, thanks for the suggestions

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cesman:

you're welcome

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dannyboy79_:

I can't figure out why my automysqlbackup isn't running from /etc/cron.daily. can anyone help?

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dannyboy79_:

anyone use automysqlbackup that can help. I am not exactly sure about permissions of folders and whatnot

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dannyboy79_:

it just doesn't run. anyone help please

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linagee:

wtf? "fox 6 gift box". so it listens to what channel you tune into and then sends back the data to fox? LOL!

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linagee:

http://www.fox6.com/content/giftzclub/default.aspx

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dannyboy79_:

does anyone use automysqlbackup that can help me, please?

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UnixDog:

ok burning knoppmyth now

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UnixDog:

then install

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UnixDog:

so 350 gig enough hd

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cesman:

UnixDog: you should have told me you were going to download it, I'd have given you super secret link

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UnixDog:

lol

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dannyboy79_:

just curious, am I invisible?

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UnixDog:

ces ?

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UnixDog:

hit me

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UnixDog:

I can re download

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cesman:

dannyboy79_: perhaps no one is using automysqlbackup

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cesman:

I for one, have never heard of it

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dannyboy79_:

cesman: ok, thanks. could you help me right a crontab line that runs every day at 2 am?

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dannyboy79_:

cesman: do you use the latest mythtv? 20.2? I am using ubuntu, is it safe for me to upgrade my mysql-server-5.0?

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cesman:

give me a few moments

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cesman:

got other fish to fry

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dannyboy79_:

cesman: sorry

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** cesman doesn't use Ubuntu **

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cesman:

could tell you if it is safe for sure

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dannyboy79_:

cesman: ok

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venger:

anyone using the Logitech cordless keyboard EX110 on your htpc? Looks decent for the cash, could be a good surf board. 2.4ghz rf could be good if its anything like the xbox 360 controller i suppose

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Kazan:

i'm going to KILL internal dvd player in trunk

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Redman276:

what is this switch cascade patch , i cant seem to find reference to it across several forums and online serches

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cesman:

dannyboy79_: http://www.adminschoice.com/docs/crontab.htm

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dannyboy79_:

cesman: thanks

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cesman:

you're welcome

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tcpsyn:

I've mentioned before I've got a giant tower outside my backdoor.

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tcpsyn:

I'd like to throw an antenna off there and grab my HD OTA

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tcpsyn:

But... does the antenna come with coax cable?

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tcpsyn:

that I could run into the house and into the mythbox?

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tcpsyn:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Coax_for_OTA

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tcpsyn:

nevermind

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cesman:

depending on the antenna, it will be built it or have a convertor

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rooaus:

Anyone just see Pedrosa's practice start? He forgot to engage the launch control and the bike just launched him... roflmao

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richard:

hey guys...i'm trying to get a mythbox set up,

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richard:

as it is, if i run mythtv from the command line, it starts and shows tv channels

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richard:

but its very laggy, and i can't get to the mythtv menu

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rooaus:

richard: Ah, mythtv is a test application. You really want to run mythfrontend. :)

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richard:

ok, that shows a progress bar for a few seconds before freezing on a black screen

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rooaus:

You also need to run mythbackend as Myth is a client/server style app, but that shouldn't cause your lockup (at least I don't think).

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richard:

mythbackend is running

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richard:

had some permissions issues but got it wrking

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rooaus:

Is there anything interesting in the log? You can start the frontend with a "-v most" to increase logging verbosity, try that and see if it gives you any hints.

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richard:

using the opengl painter

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richard:

mythtv: could not cnnect to socket

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rooaus:

Is the backend running on the same machine? Have you setup the backend ip address correctly in mythtv-setup? Is your mysqld listening on the interface you spec'd in mythtv-setup?

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richard:

mythtv: no such file or directory

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richard:

ok on closer inspection, while mythfrontend is running, its not actually crashed, just idsplaying a black screen

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richard:

pressing Esc gives the option to exit

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richard:

yes, yes, and yes

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richard:

i know because i've already fixed those issues

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rooaus:

cool :)

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rooaus:

richard: You can override the painter from the command line by using "mythfrontend -O painter=qt", maybe it is opengl related?

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richard:

i just tried that by changing it in the database and i now have mythtv open

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richard:

but its quite laggy

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rooaus:

Are you using an accelerated driver?

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rooaus:

What video card are you using?

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richard:

ati 9200se

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richard:

using the ati proprietary drivers

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richard:

the resident linux user says there's no DRI

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richard:

and we couldn't get tv-out working on the opensource drivers

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rooaus:

Yeah, my laptop is using the fglrx driver and it is slow/unusable, I only use it for writing/testing patches. It is much easier if you have an Nvidia card, even a fx5200 is ok.

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rooaus:

I need to go now as they are racing at Philip Island :) Sounds like the ATI is the problem, goodluck.

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rooaus:

afk

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mzb_d800:

gday all

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mzb_d800:

can I run mtd on a remote host? ie. other than the ripping host

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richard:

ok, thanks.

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richard:

i'll try and ge an nvidia card

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Leebier:

i'm having a weird problem with Lirc. I've resorted to desperate measures with my PVR-350 and gone with MythDora, things seem to be running alright with the exception of my remote (old grey hauppauge), lircd seems to load fine, no errors in dmesg, /usr/bin/irw runs fine, but does not detect any input from my remote.

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rooaus:

richard: People do get it going with ATI cards, so if money is more important than time you can get it going. I would google some before giving up.

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Leebier:

i'd almost think the ir receiver isn't plugged in, but, well, it is

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rooaus:

go Casey!!

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richard:

ok

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richard:

thanks again

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mzb_d800:

Leebier: started irxevent?

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mzb_d800:

err

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mzb_d800:

misread that ... you haven't got that far yet :|

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Leebier:

irxevent? this is not a command i've had to interact with before (in my many times setting up a mythbox over the last 2–3 years, this remote hasn't given me trouble, everything else about the PVR-350? yes, but not the remote)

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mzb_d800:

is it handled by input-layer?

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mzb_d800:

(cat /proc/bus/input/devices)

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whatevah7:

Hello, I have setup mythtv and everything works, other than my attempts to control a set-top box using and MCE usb remote. Any pointers?

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mzb_d800:

i've noticed quite a few howto's around for the MCE

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UnixDog:

cesman: you there

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Leebier:

hang on, need to ssh in so i can pastebin

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Leebier:

but i'm not seeing anything that looks remotely like a remote, (heh, unintended there)

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Leebier:

mouse, keyboard, mouse, pc speaker, power button, sleep button

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marmoset:

is there a generic way to launch applications from mythtv, or does it have to be a plugin (and c++ and all that)?

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Leebier:

dmesg |grep lirc

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Leebier:

lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, at major 61 lirc_i2c: chip found @ 0x18 (Hauppauge IR) lirc_dev: lirc_register_plugin: sample_rate: 10

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mzb_d800:

ok, so it's not (is the answer)

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mzb_d800:

# dmesg | grep input

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Leebier:

mouse button emulation, hid-core, at keyboard, ps2 mouse, pc speaker, power button, sleep button

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mzb_d800:

I would guess from the lirc_i2c above that it's not handled by the input layer

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mzb_d800:

googled for a howto? I'd have thought they'd be quite common for that card

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Leebier:

well, as best as i can tell, i've done most of what any howto would say, modprobe.conf and well, that's about it actually

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mzb_d800:

have you managed to complete an irrecord?

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Leebier:

i haven't tried, hmm, as, well, i've never had to, lemme see though

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mzb_d800:

I'd be almost certain that there's more involved than just adjusting modules config ;)

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Leebier:

fair enough, in the past, i'd been using jarod's guide, with much success

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Leebier:

but the new kernels and FC7 messed up a lot of the tv-out stuff copared to when the guide was written, i've been tearing out my hair all week, so i figured i'd try mythdora, 95% of it has worked fine right away, but lemme go play w/; irrecord

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clever:

tvout on my laptop(ati card) is painfull

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clever:

i use the atitvout program to directly prod the cards modes(even works in console mode)

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Leebier:

irrecord: gap not found, can't continue

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clever:

the problem is that the signal to the tv isnt sync'ing right and is unusable

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clever:

enless i change the resolution a few times

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clever:

i made a script with xrandr sleep and atitvout that works half the time

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clever:

but the colors are still off alot

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mzb_d800:

Leebier: use a repeating key (like seek)

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mzb_d800:

(or volume)

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mzb_d800:

and if that fails ... press a button really fast ;)

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Leebier:

lol, i tried that

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Leebier:

same result though, i know the remote works because the TV has a light that flashes when IR signals come it, it's going nuts :)

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mzb_d800:

had a similar situation recently ... I've given you the best I have to offer

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Leebier:

thanks

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Leebier:

i appreciate it

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|UnixDog|:

cesman: sorry I got bumped

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|UnixDog|:

I cant pm at the min

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PRoGRaMMeRQ:

just curious: how does the 'iptv tuner' grab its guide data?

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PRoGRaMMeRQ:

some kind of digital equivalent to eit?

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cesman:

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cesman:

anyone using MythMusic from trunk?

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MitoTranin:

hey there...

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MitoTranin:

anyone here have any experience with a Plextor TV402U ?

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Perdignus:

Does anyone understand what happened to btaudio in 2.6.23.1 ?

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MitoTranin:

So is that a no for the Plextor ConvertX?

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Kazan:

what was libata's predecessor?

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cesman:

Kazan: I don't think it had a formal name

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Kazan:

well

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Kazan:

ever since they switched over my dvd drive has been unstable when playing dvds

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Kazan:

likes locking the entire system up solid

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Captain_Murdoch:

MitoTranin: I have a M402U (the tuner-less version).

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MitoTranin:

Captain_Murdoch: I'm not sure if the same would apply then, but, it's worth a shot!

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MitoTranin:

I am having a problem getting video to work properly... MythTV always sees this: http://mitopia.net/files/1009_20071013043500.nuv.png

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Aval0n:

jeez

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MitoTranin:

and it records to .nuv files instead of mpeg4 files

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Aval0n:

my box is running 49c

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Aval0n:

is that way too hot or what

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Aval0n:

I just added a fan to the back of my entertainment center too

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Aval0n:

grr

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MitoTranin:

Aval0n: eh, depends on what you're doing

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Captain_Murdoch:

MitoTranin: it will record to nuv, that's what Myth writes out when it uses the Plextor boxes.

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MitoTranin:

and the overal system

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Aval0n:

well i'm just doing playback of analog TV

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Aval0n:

cpu and chassis are both 49c

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Captain_Murdoch:

MitoTranin: are you using the tuner or the composite or svideo in?

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MitoTranin:

Captain_Murdoch: ok, I can live with that I guess... I was just hoping to be able to playback the recordings in a standalone player too occasionally... I guess I'll just have to find a windows program that can play them

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MitoTranin:

Captain_Murdoch: the tuner... which is why I said I don't know if you'd have experience with this or not

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Captain_Murdoch:

yeah, currently you can only write .nuv files. I'm working on a patch to allow writing other container formats, but it's not ready for SVN yet and will take a while with my limited programming time right now.

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MitoTranin:

Aval0n: if the chassis is 49c, then that's why your cpu is as well... I would suggest that you either add a case fan to the system or find a way to get cooler air directed towards it

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Captain_Murdoch:

can you use the test gorecord app to record successfully?

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Aval0n:

it has 2 chassis fans in it

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Aval0n:

blowing straight out the back

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MitoTranin:

Captain_Murdoch: gorecord gives this output: http://mitopia.net/files/testing.avi

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Aval0n:

and one in the front blowing passed the hard drive

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Aval0n:

this is in an entertainment center

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MitoTranin:

which is functional, but quality is terrible

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Aval0n:

but I also just added a fan to exhaust the hot air out of that.

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Aval0n:

I also have a passivly cooled video card

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Aval0n:

nvidia 7300gs

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Aval0n:

and that sucker gets hot

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MitoTranin:

Aval0n: how crowded is the entertainment center?

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MitoTranin:

I mean... is there enough room for air to get in and out of the system's case?

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Captain_Murdoch:

MitoTranin: is this your only tuner? do you have it set to use the right frequency table?

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MitoTranin:

you can have all the fans you want, but if you're sucking in from a closed source, it's not going to do any good

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MitoTranin:

Captain_Murdoch: yes it's my only tuner, and I told it to use us-cable

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MitoTranin:

because it's on cable... and I'm in the us....

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Aval0n:

not too crowded

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MitoTranin:

here's the command I used to get that avi: gorecord -input 2 -tvchan us-cable:6 testing.mpeg

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Captain_Murdoch:

did you setup the recording profile in Myth?

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MitoTranin:

Aval0n: but is there room for airflow?

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MitoTranin:

Captain_Murdoch: I setup the tuner device in myth-setup

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MitoTranin:

and in the frontend I set the recording profile to be 720x480

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MitoTranin:

with default everything else

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am_dragon:

hello, I'm new here.

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MitoTranin:

(which I think was 2200 bitrate, don't remember the rest)

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MitoTranin:

Captain_Murdoch: I had these same problems in feisty, and thought it was due to weird video problems

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Captain_Murdoch:

I used to get that green screen before I setup the recording profile and see others report the same thing when I google "plextor mythtv green"

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MitoTranin:

so I installed Mythbuntu (based on gutsy) into a VMware image for testing, and that's what this is from

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MitoTranin:

what did you set your recording profile settings to?

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MitoTranin:

my problem is that I don't know what options of those need to be turned on, and which need to stay off, etc

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MitoTranin:

ie: should I use the high-quality since it's hardware-encoding?

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MitoTranin:

should I enable 4MV encoding?

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MitoTranin:

etc

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MitoTranin:

Captain_Murdoch: using your search "plextor mythtv green" (I'd tried all sorts of searches before, but never that exact combination...) I found this and it looks like it might work... I'll give it a try.. http://lists.atrpms.net/pipermail/atrpms-user . . . /002855.html

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Aval0n:

yes there is room for airflow mito

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Aval0n:

i just put the 12v adapter back on

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Aval0n:

and it dropped to 43c

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Aval0n:

my wife complained that it was too loud

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Aval0n:

so I had a 6v adapter on it

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Aval0n:

with the 12v I have it down to 43c

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Aval0n:

grr

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Captain_Murdoch:

MitoTranin: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_go7007

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Aval0n:

it is rather loud

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Captain_Murdoch:

MitoTranin: I think it's the video size that is the issue

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MitoTranin:

Captain_Murdoch: I've had that in my bookmarks list for a while

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Captain_Murdoch:

and it addresses your green screen problem.

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MitoTranin:

yeah, the default video size is 480x480, and I changed it to 720x480

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MitoTranin:

never tried the 640x480

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MitoTranin:

so I'm going to try that now

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JoeyJoeJo:

my logs say that commercial flagging is running and completing successfully, but my frontend isn't skipping them when I watch

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Captain_Murdoch:

JoeyJoeJo: it doesn't skip automatically unless you turn on AutoSkip

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Captain_Murdoch:

hit Z to skip forward and Q to skip back

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Aval0n:

ugg

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MitoTranin:

Captain_Murdoch: Sweet Sweet Success!

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MitoTranin:

thanks a bunch!

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Aval0n:

I wonder if I can find a silnet 3" 12v fan that pushes as much air as this one

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Aval0n:

silent*

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JoeyJoeJo:

captain_murdoch: I know, it's checked.. I forgot to mention that a 30min recording will show up as being an hour long or more

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Captain_Murdoch:

yw. I had the same issue when I first setup mine.

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Captain_Murdoch:

JoeyJoeJo: DVB?

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JoeyJoeJo:

captain: nope, regular old analog cable

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Captain_Murdoch:

commercial skip goes by frame number so it should work anyway.

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Captain_Murdoch:

sounds like your recordedseek table may be hosed up though if your skipping doesn't work and your lengths are screwey.

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MitoTranin:

Aval0n: for your overheating: the fans that blow out of your system, do they blow into the back wall of your ent. center?

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JoeyJoeJo:

captain: I'll try to recreate it or something

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MitoTranin:

Aval0n: if you can, for testing, I would try to pull the system out of the ent. center and see what the temp rides at

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MitoTranin:

if it's still high, then you have internal system issues and need to vent better/get more heatsinks, etc

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Aval0n:

mito yeah it's pretty cool when it's out

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Aval0n:

and yes they blow backward

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Captain_Murdoch:

JoeyJoeJo: there's instructions in the howto/faq about checking the integrity of that table I believe.

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Aval0n:

and the fan is right behind it blowing out

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MitoTranin:

if it's fine when removed, then I would try to make a hole in the back of the ent center behind it

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Aval0n:

and the front door of the center has about 1/4 inch open slit at the top for cool air to come in

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MitoTranin:

that way instead of blowing back against the ent. center wall, where that hot air is going to just be pulled back in, it blows all the way out of the ent center

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Aval0n:

mito

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Aval0n:

that is where my fan is now

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Aval0n:

right behind it

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Aval0n:

blowing out

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MitoTranin:

so you are doing this with your glass door closed then? what if you just leave the glass door open?

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MitoTranin:

or even take it off?

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Aval0n:

bah

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Aval0n:

ugly with it off

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Aval0n:

plus I have kids

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MitoTranin:

yeah, but for testing

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Aval0n:

which is the reason for the door in the first place

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Aval0n:

let me try to open it

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Aval0n:

and see how the temp does.

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Aval0n:

actuall

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Aval0n:

I just walked over to it

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Aval0n:

and its at 40

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MitoTranin:

here's my point: if you are doing this with a glass door, then chances are that your system isn't getting "cool" air when it's incoming

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Aval0n:

with the 12v adapter on it

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MitoTranin:

it's getting already warmed up air

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Aval0n:

so it's at 40 right now

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Aval0n:

let me open the door

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MitoTranin:

40 isn't bad

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Aval0n:

opened to door

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Aval0n:

this fan is just so damned loud

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Aval0n:

that is why I even had the 6v on it to begin with

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Aval0n:

if I could find a fan pushed the same amount of air silently

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Aval0n:

I'de be in hog heaven

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Aval0n:

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?p . . . tPage=search

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Aval0n:

that's what i'm using

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MitoTranin:

http://www.silentpcreview.com/

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MitoTranin:

http://www.endpcnoise.com/

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Aval0n:

how can you make a 3 pin fan work on a 2 lead power adapter?

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MitoTranin:

well it depends on the voltage etc

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MitoTranin:

but those 3 pin fans are power, ground, and monitoring

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MitoTranin:

so if you just use the red and black pins (the yellow is the monitoring) then you should be ok

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MitoTranin:

but if it's the wrong type of power etc, you could do damage to the fan and/or the power source

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MitoTranin:

I would just look and find one that has the right type of power connection

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MitoTranin:

either that, or not use an externally powered fan

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MitoTranin:

you already have those 2 fans blowing out of the PC... try just leaving an open hole for their air to go directly outside of the ent. cent

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MitoTranin:

OR, get a huge fan that uses a PC power connector, and run the power connector from the PC out the back of the case

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Aval0n:

mito staying at 40 with door open

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Aval0n:

well

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Aval0n:

i had the fan running slow

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Aval0n:

at 6v

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Aval0n:

and I was getting 50c

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Aval0n:

so no fan

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Aval0n:

I imagine would be worse than that

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Aval0n:

running 12v it's 40–41c

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Aval0n:

with door open or shut

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MitoTranin:

not necessarily... if you had the fan there, then the air could only leave as fast as that fan was pushing

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MitoTranin:

if you take the fan out, it can leave at the speed that it was already traveling

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MitoTranin:

which might be faster

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Aval0n:

hmm

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Aval0n:

the hole is only 3" though

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MitoTranin:

make the hole bigger :)

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Aval0n:

haha

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MitoTranin:

the only problem with that though...

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MitoTranin:

is that you can't ever make it smaller again :)

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Aval0n:

yeah I don't wanna mar this center up too badly

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Aval0n:

hehe

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Aval0n:

http://ldproxy.com/aval0n/arcade/100_1489.JPG

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Aval0n:

that's it

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Aval0n:

i have that onkyo amp on the left and now a HTPC on the bottom right

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MitoTranin:

nice system... I wouldn't want to screw it up either :)

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Aval0n:

no HTPC in that pic

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Aval0n:

ty

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Aval0n:

:)

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MitoTranin:

I like that TV too... care to share? :)

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Aval0n:

share what?

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Aval0n:

:)

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Aval0n:

it's just 1080i

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MitoTranin:

we can trade... TV's of course :)

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Aval0n:

hahah

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MitoTranin:

you get my 5 year old 27" huge thing... and I get that :)

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Aval0n:

it's a hp-s5053

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MitoTranin:

we'll trade for a year

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Aval0n:

hehehe

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MitoTranin:

and then we can trade back after :0

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Aval0n:

ok so end results

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Aval0n:

with door open

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Aval0n:

39

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Aval0n:

closed 41

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MitoTranin:

yeah... with that type of a system, your best option would be to get a high-volume, quiet fan

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MitoTranin:

well, then that might be as cool as you're going to get it until you adjust the internal cooling

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MitoTranin:

but I would still look into upgrading that exhaust fan in the back

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MitoTranin:

maybe even get something that's temp controled

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Aval0n:

i wanted this

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Aval0n:

http://activethermal.com/System_2_Rack_Mount.htm

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Aval0n:

until I found out the price

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Aval0n:

$300.00

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Aval0n:

that's some BULLLLShit

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PRoGRaMMeRQ:

at work we have one of those carpet blowers pointed at our mounted external sata enclosure

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PRoGRaMMeRQ:

we have 5 or 6 drives, and I guess they were having problems with overheating.

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PRoGRaMMeRQ:

the industrial carpet fan fixed that problem.

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PRoGRaMMeRQ:

it was there when I started in February

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PRoGRaMMeRQ:

cheaper (and louder) than that $300 thing :)

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MitoTranin:

Aval0n: http://www.silentpcreview.com/article63-page1.html

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Aval0n:

thnx

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Aval0n:

i've had the door shut now

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Aval0n:

for like 15 minutes

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Aval0n:

38c

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Aval0n:

must have still be dropping from when I put it back to 12v

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Aval0n:

i'm not finding too many fans that are quiter than this

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Aval0n:

alot of them advertise silent

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Aval0n:

but their silent mode is like 20db @ < 29cfn

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Aval0n:

cfm*

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Aval0n:

this is 34CFM@32db

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am_dragon:

Im setting up a mythtv box with hd.

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am_dragon:

does anyone here have an hd tuner?

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am_dragon:

if so which one? Oh and USA ATSC HD tuner.

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Aval0n:

am dragon

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Aval0n:

I use a kworld 115

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Aval0n:

does the trick for me.

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am_dragon:

That's one I was looking at.

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am_dragon:

either that or the avermedia 180.

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am_dragon:

I don't want to spring for the pchdtv card.

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Aval0n:

avermedia is the same chipset as the kworld

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Aval0n:

nxt2004

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Aval0n:

so kinda like, whatever is cheaper for you

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sparr_:

mythtv cannot connect to its database. i have a user and db and priveleges set up to match /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt, help?

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sparr_:

ok, text file was worthless. problem solved in the gui

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sparr_:

now i get 'using all available inputs', and i try to run mythtv-setup to set up inputs, but it just sits there

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CaptObviousman:

greetings, earthlings

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Zathraz:

Hi. After I upgraded from 0.20SVN-something to 0.20.2 I have two "features" I would like to get rid off. 1. Lirc mode2 works still fine, but no longer with mythtv. 2. recording a TV program seems to work according to the status during recording. But it ends up in the DB as a program which was removed. It does not even show up in "recorded programs"

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Zathraz:

I use Debian packages

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achew22:

can someone look at my output from make install — it builds prperly but won't install all the binaries

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achew22:

http://pastebin.ca/736194

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achew22:

around 160 I get "make[2]: *** [/bin/moc] Error 1"

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achew22:

has anyone seen that before?

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therealsndguru:

man I'm fed up with mytharchive

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therealsndguru:

it's stalled on dvdauthor

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therealsndguru:

with no error message

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therealsndguru:

firstly I was getting a error with mplex

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therealsndguru:

and my fix was to add -f 8

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therealsndguru:

looks like that's done the job correctly but now

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therealsndguru:

just stuck

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therealsndguru:

14:03 was the start time 17:40 now

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therealsndguru:

with almost no processor time being use except the mythfrontend every 5 seconds

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therealsndguru:

any users out there who have managed to run mytharchive successfully

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therealsndguru:

???

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rooaus:

therealsndguru: Yeah, I use it a bit, but I am using trunk. Work pretty well for me, mainly use it to burn a copy of stuff for friends/family if they missed it.

[09:45:18]

therealsndguru:

spot on

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therealsndguru:

friend who don't have the brains to have a system like mine

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therealsndguru:

:P

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therealsndguru:

so trunk

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therealsndguru:

hrmmm

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rooaus:

exactly, it can be a bit annoying hey :)

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therealsndguru:

it's a ep of life ??? don't even watch the show

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therealsndguru:

then there all the cut sections of show I don't want to delete but one thing at a time

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therealsndguru:

trunk – DVD Authoring Tools

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therealsndguru:

sound right ??

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rooaus:

?

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therealsndguru:

rooaus, "I am using trunk" what is trunk, googles not helping

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rooaus:

ah... sorry :) I am using the development version of myth. It is referred to as "trunk" as the myth project uses subversion and that is a subversion thing.

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rooaus:

Sometimes referred to as "Unstable".

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therealsndguru:

oh ok

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therealsndguru:

oh so the developers get a version that works

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therealsndguru:

gotta

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therealsndguru:

lol

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rooaus:

therealsndguru: If you are prepared to build from source and accept the possible occasional breakage then you too can have trunk. :)

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therealsndguru:

and i imagine you haven't changed any of the command lines in the setup of mytharchives frontend

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therealsndguru:

rooaus, i would nearly be there

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therealsndguru:

my linux'ing has come a LONG way wehn I started to use myth

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rooaus:

No, just standard.

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therealsndguru:

figures maybe why dvdauthor stopped that the mplex -f 8 killed it

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therealsndguru:

any way there enough breakage in the stable version too

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therealsndguru:

still thankz for your input been a like help

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therealsndguru:

little help i meant

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rooaus:

np

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Zathraz:

Hi. After I upgraded from 0.20SVN-something to 0.20.2 I have two "features" I would like to get rid off. 1. Lirc mode2 works still fine, but no longer with mythtv. 2. recording a TV program seems to work according to the status during recording. But it ends up in the DB as a program which was removed. It does not even show up in "recorded programs"

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therealsndguru:

Zathraz, when it come to lirc it's normally the ~/.mthtv/lircrc & the /etc/lirc.conf

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therealsndguru:

the second one I hope you made a backup of your mysql database you may need it

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Zathraz:

I have not changed the lirc config. The second remark I cannot place.

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Zathraz:

btw: there is no such thing as a /etc/lirc.conf on my system (and never has been afaik). there are lircd.conf files though? Typo?

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Dagmar:

If you're asking that it's proof you're not bothering to look at the instructions.

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Zathraz:

is it that wierd to presume that upgrading myth does not effect lirc config? Especially as it runs fine out of myth?

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Zathraz:

so yes. I focused on myth and not on lirc itself.

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therealsndguru:

I've always found lirc to be hard to setup

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therealsndguru:

but I getting the idea now, it's all about those two files and the dameon looking at the right hardware point

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Dagmar:

It would also help if what you were saying made any sense.

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therealsndguru:

which could have changed if it's a usb one

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Dagmar:

`mode2` has nothing to do with MythTV.

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Zathraz:

yes. It is a LIRC test tool

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Zathraz:

it proves lirc works itself

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Zathraz:

i get the correct output from it

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Zathraz:

myth used to be working fine

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Dagmar:

So make sure you have one and only one lircrc file

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therealsndguru:

yep /etc/lircd.conf i was looking on my server that doesn't have lirc to a bit longer :P

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Dagmar:

Or hey, read the Changelog, since it's a 0.x version and there *no* expectation that any feature is going to work the same way it did before

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therealsndguru:

so when you test lirc are you getting the print out of the button name you are pressing

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therealsndguru:

what's the other testing tool ummm

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therealsndguru:

irw ain't it

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Zathraz:

irw and mode2 are two different tools for different lirc setups afaik

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therealsndguru:

yep in irw you looking for something like

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therealsndguru:

0001004600000af9 00 power DVICO

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therealsndguru:

0001004600000af9 01 power DVICO

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therealsndguru:

so is it saying the name of the button, in my case "power"

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therealsndguru:

stupid mytharchive won't close now, lol, it's leaving the lock file there

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cheshair:

hi! did anyone in here knows something about lirc on a macmini?

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cheshair:

s/did/does

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cheshair:

s/knows/know

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cheshair:

(maybe i need more english grammar! :-) )

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therealsndguru:

nice macmini same question want remote hardware are you using

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therealsndguru:

what remote . .

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cheshair:

therealsndguru: i couldn't understand, can you repeat?

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therealsndguru:

does the macmini have a remote with it or is it a different remote

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therealsndguru:

I haven't ever looked at a mac mini

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Zathraz:

lirc issues can arise (had them once before) due to conflicts in packaging/linking of mythtv to mythlib. This was an issue on Debian (according to changelogs Dagmar, but I fixed that myself some time ago) on 0.20.2–0.1 but is resolved on 02.20.2–0.2

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cheshair:

therealsndguru: it is built-in

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therealsndguru:

Zathraz, have you checked irw yet

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Zathraz:

still same problem. btw it is even hard to actually find the original changelogs

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therealsndguru:

cheshair, a built in one, yuck

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therealsndguru:

once you find out what /dev/ device it is, I have no idea

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Zathraz:

correct me if I am wrong, I am not exactly mr Lirc, but is the dfference between irw and mode2 not the fact that they are designed for different types of receivers? So testing irw will not do me any good?

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therealsndguru:

Zathraz, cat some of you /dev/ 's andf press buttons

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therealsndguru:

sorry Zathraz the above is for cheshair

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Zathraz:

k. np

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therealsndguru:

i know irw and would have thought it the same, are you saying it doesn;t work – irw

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cheshair:

therealsndguru: don't you think i need to handle come kernel/module/lirc/confs stuff before??

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therealsndguru:

cheshair, depends you might be lucky the os has it built in otherwise, good luck, my dvico usb receiver where hard to setup in the beginning

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cheshair:

therealsndguru: thank you very much for your advices, i think i'm not that lucky though, and i'll need to setup a lot of things

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therealsndguru:

cheshair, cos they had to be built from the kernel, now there're just there, i hope for you

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cheshair:

therealsndguru: handling kernel and modules doesn't frighten me that much, the point is i can't understand where to get the right modules/drivers for macmini receiver

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therealsndguru:

i use to have to build the dvico tuner cards too, love linux

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therealsndguru:

google, google and google

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cheshair:

therealsndguru: i'll have some investigations and let you know then

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cheshair:

therealsndguru: :-) back in a few minutes, thanks again

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therealsndguru:

cheshair, good luck normally you'll find the full how to too

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therealsndguru:

Zathraz, have you done a irw yet

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therealsndguru:

i just wan to know it you get the names or not

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Zathraz:

from mode2 I do

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therealsndguru:

but not irw

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therealsndguru:

??

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Zathraz:

did not run irw yet, something came up inbetween

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therealsndguru:

ok

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therealsndguru:

yep i prefer irw, that mode2 thing sux

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therealsndguru:

In order to test your setup run lircd with the --nodaemon option and

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therealsndguru:

then check if the remote works with the irw tool.

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therealsndguru:

mode2 is saying to use irw, then why does mode2 exist ??

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Zathraz:

hmm. irw does not give a thing. to be able to run mode2 one has to do an /etc/init.d/lirc stop. But that does not kill /usr/sbin/inputlircd /dev/input/event0 /dev/input/event1

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Zathraz:

so I manually killed it and ran mode2. That does give codes, but no button names.

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Zathraz:

kind of sux

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therealsndguru:

ah, true

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therealsndguru:

well i still think check your .lircrc file

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therealsndguru:

I understand all you did was upgrade but it's linux nothing is easy

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therealsndguru:

or i'd be printing from any windows machine to my linux cups server

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Zathraz:

that is not too hard to accomplish

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Zathraz:

it is just that Windows is retarded and printer settings are on various places in windows printer drivers

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therealsndguru:

oh nice a cups expert, fix mine

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Dagmar:

I just like how blindly trusting Windows is

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Dagmar:

You can do pretty much anything you like with what's *supposed* to be printer drivers... lob them into your samba server so windows clients think they need them, and then wait for someone to print

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therealsndguru:

i've heard the new 2007 windows server is going shell part

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tafkaz:

hi there. anyone can tell me if i can start the "Internal"-Videoplayer from a terminal with a command ?

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cheshair:

therealsndguru: here come the latest news about lirc+macmini: at the moment i' recompiling my 2.6.22 with this patch: http://www.archlinux.org/~andyrtr/mactel-linux-2.6.22.patch

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cheshair:

s/i'/i'm

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cheshair:

therealsndguru: hope this helps

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cheshair:

(and works!! :-) )

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therealsndguru:

nice work cheshair

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therealsndguru:

told ya it would be easy

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cheshair:

therealsndguru: :-D

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cheshair:

therealsndguru: how do you native speakers say? "let's cross our fingers"?

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therealsndguru:

:P

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SiD3WiNDR:

"*fingers crossed*" :p

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cheshair:

SiD3WiNDR: thanks!

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SiD3WiNDR:

but I'm not a native speaker ;)

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cheshair:

SiD3WiNDR: where are you from?

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Zathraz:

therealsoundguru: I checked stuff and also changed between users "root" and "mythtv". then noriced limited access to /dev/lirc* and missing /dev/lirc --> /dev/lirc0. I fixed those and did a /etc/init.d/gdm restart

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Zathraz:

now it all works again. Still have to fix this as another reboot will be killing again

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SiD3WiNDR:

cheshair: belgium

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cheshair:

SiD3WiNDR: i see, i'm from italy

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therealsndguru:

nice catch Zathraz good work

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Zathraz:

ty

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Zathraz:

next problem is my missing/auto deleted recording

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Zathraz:

but that will have to wait as I have tro go

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Zathraz:

thanks for the support

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Zathraz:

bye

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afxlex:

anyone ever have the issue of mplayer only playing the audio and not seeing in video when you play videos

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therealsndguru:

afxlex, video drivers??

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therealsndguru:

have you any installed, what graphics card is it

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afxlex:

i have a nvidia based card gefore 7100

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therealsndguru:

ok that the hardware sorted, have you got install the nvidia drivers

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therealsndguru:

have you video in myth

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therealsndguru:

?

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afxlex:

i can play video with Xine, but not mplayer

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Diabolic:

happens to me if I run mplayer with -vo xv

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therealsndguru:

hrmm, interesting one

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therealsndguru:

check /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf

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therealsndguru:

may explain a few things

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therealsndguru:

my next answer would be use xine instead of mplayer, change the program in the setup of myth

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afxlex:

indeed – mplayer plays a lot of formats that I use – looking into the conf now

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afxlex:

maybe a reinstall of the driver – then reinstall mplayer?

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therealsndguru:

can sometimes be it

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therealsndguru:

the conf didn't help??

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afxlex:

nope.

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afxlex:

i just rebooted let me see if that made a difference

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afxlex:

my xorg.conf is getting hosed thats why :)

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Kazan:

anyone with ivtv cards having problems where they're recording blank files?

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Dagmar:

Are we talking zeroes or just black screen?

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Kazan:

on the mythbox they're showing up as mostly-pink noise

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Kazan:

across the network they were showing up as blank in windows media.. seeing what they do in powerdvd

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Kazan:

ok they're not blank

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Kazan:

it's just like the tuner had problems locking them in

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tcpsyn:

I'm a little scared about changing from cable to OTA

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juski:

Dagmar: heya. you ever played with the text positioning on the record options screen? just trying something out to see if I can get the text centered & it's not playing

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juski:

not 100% sure a <textarea> allows centering

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juski:

just sick of having all the record options bunched up at the left right up against the arrows & left side of the select bar

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juski:

hmmm why do I get the feeling this would need a patch to put right? a lack of consistency of definable attributes strikes again

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juski:

!!!! er.. well done that man if this is what I think it is.. http://birch.colincross.com/myth-qt4/mythtv-libmyth-qt4prep.diff

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Gurft:

How do I run mythbackend interactiveely so I can tell it to upgrade my DB when I go from 0.20.2 to the latest SVN?

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GreyFoxx:

It wil automatically upgrade the database, you don't actually tell it to update it

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Gurft:

See, that's what I though

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GreyFoxx:

which is my you should backup the database first :)

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Gurft:

Are you sure you want to upgrade? [no]

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Gurft:

[console is not interactive, using default 'no']

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Gurft:

that's whaqt I get in my backend log when starting it up

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janneg:

GreyFoxx: there are problems with the interactive shell detection

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Gurft:

:-/

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janneg:

Gurft: try running mythtv-setup

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GreyFoxx:

ahhhh you must be using svn from the last couple days. I had forgotten that nigel had applied patches for that sort of thing yesterday

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Gurft:

I actually pulled it this morning

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Gurft:

so what shoudl happen if I get mythtv-setup running?

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Gurft:

shoudl it upgrade the DB for me?

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GreyFoxx:

I think a gui popup will ask you

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Gurft:

yep it did

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Gurft:

good stuff

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GreyFoxx:

juski: Actually someone has been working on the qt3->qt4 stuff

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juski:

GreyFoxx: v. cool :)

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GreyFoxx:

juski: hehe yeah

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juski:

gonna have to do a patch for that ui code sooner or later though – but maybe it'd be much more worthwhile to see about porting the ui.xml stuff to mythui

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janneg:

juski: look at the dates http://birch.colincross.com/myth-qt4/ it's probably bit rotten

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janneg:

but CDev is working on the Qt4 port

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** GreyFoxx has run into a reproducable segfault when playing certain videos. dies in the libavcodec stuff **

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juski:

I wasn't looking to find qt4 things.. was searching to see if I could find any more info about <listarea> attributes

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janneg:

GreyFoxx: with or without the ffmpeg sync patch?

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juski:

bah! opendns is being sucky

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GreyFoxx:

janneg: Without

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janneg:

if you still run multirec: http://www.grunau.be/multirec/ quilt series for the ffmpeg sync patch

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GreyFoxx:

ooh I'll try that before I dig into it.

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GreyFoxx:

One thing I wanted to mention is that I'd noticed twice where a recording finished but myth stuff though it was a recording in progress

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GreyFoxx:

I've had shows that I watched and deleted

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GreyFoxx:

but the next day I see them in mythweb as currently recording

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GreyFoxx:

2 of them in the last week

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Baylink:

OT: Anyone in New Jersey? :-)

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Gurft:

I'm in PA ;)

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cheshair:

Baylink: no, what's happening there?

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Gurft:

Okay, so only problem with the SVN that I see since upgrading is my video...bounces

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Baylink:

I'm sadly Myth-bereft here on a biz trip, and looking for some transit advice. I figured, hell, someone here ought to be there, too... :-)

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Baylink:

Gurft: like, bob-deinterlacing bounces?

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Gurft:

yea, kindof

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Gurft:

like someone is shaking my TV very very quickly

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Gurft:

vertically

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Baylink:

Were you deinterlacing before? Are you now? Did you check?

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Baylink:

What sort of set and programming?

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Gurft:

not sure where to look in SVN

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Gurft:

this is my first expierence with it

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Gurft:

was runing 0.20.2 before

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fadumpt:

i installed mythtv-backend on my gutsy box and then tried to run it from System>Advanced and it asked if i wanted to add my user to the mythtv group and i said yes and relogged in like it said, but now it won't log in...just goes to a blank screen

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Gurft:

I set it to CPU-- and now it's not bouncing

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juski:

time for teh h3r035!

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Gurft:

alright, back up and running again.... neato burrito. Now just have to rebuild all myplugins....

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sebrock:

which is the default bitrate on livetv on myth?

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andrewc:

Is it possible to set my MythTV to only consider recording a channel between certain hours, or my grabber to ignore published listings data between a range of hours in the day?

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Dagmar:

sebrock: The profile that says "liveTV"

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andrewc:

Reason: Virgin1 only boradcasts on FreeView in the UK between 1800 and 0600.

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sebrock:

Dagmar, reason I ask is because if I try to watch /dev/video* with VLC, it seems to play it to fast (framerate, not bitrate sorry)

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sebrock:

cant find a setting for it in VLC though

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Dagmar:

Oh now that is *weird*

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sebrock:

you been sarcastic ? :D

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Dagmar:

*Maybe* you've got something set to PAL when it should be NTSC or vice-versa

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Dagmar:

I can think of no other reason for that happening.

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Dagmar:

...and I've got my doubts about that.

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sebrock:

hm... is that possible in VLC?

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Dagmar:

This would be something you'd be prodding the tuner card about

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Dagmar:

Is this a PVR-xxx card or a framebuffer card?

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sebrock:

should be possible to set framerate somehow, cant find it tho. Its a PVR-500

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Dagmar:

Actually not really.

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Dagmar:

The framerate is *going* to be the framerate the broadcast is at

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sebrock:

within MythTV it works great

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Dagmar:

You can't exactly record at 20fps on a 30fps signal without having very ugly things happening, dig?

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tank-man:

sebrock, maybe look at the ivtv utils

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Dagmar:

The tuner card is _aware_ of each individual frame that's being broadcast

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Dagmar:

...since you're blessedly not framegrabbing

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Dagmar:

tank-man's probably correct

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sebrock:

No, I think its the playback that needs tweaking, playback in myth is as I said alright

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sebrock:

ah well

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Dagmar:

There's some CLI tools that come with the ivtv source package that can be very helpful for prodding the card into doing specific things so a less intelligent tool (like VLC) doesn't get any suprises

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sebrock:

I'll have a look

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WattoDaToydarian:

Hey guys, I just compiled the latest trunk svn and I am trying to run mythbackend from an ssh connection, it says that I need to upgrade the mysql database but is not telling me say yes.

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WattoDaToydarian:

oops, typeo. It's not letting my say yes.

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WattoDaToydarian:

It just goes straight through all the questions and quits

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WattoDaToydarian:

[console is not interactive, using default 'no']

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Gurft:

Watto: I just had that problem this morning!

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Gurft:

run mythtv-setup

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Gurft:

it will prompt you then

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Gurft:

the interactive detection is a bit borked in SVN apparently

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Gurft:

You'll need to have a functioning X display though, not sure if you're running really remote, or just from the laptop on the living room ;)

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WattoDaToydarian:

Gurft, I am running X forwarding. Thanks for the tip!

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Gurft:

anyone seen this before, /usr/lib/mythtv/plugins/libmythdvd.so: undefined symbol: _ZN18ConfigurationGroup6byNameE7QString

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Gurft:

foudn it in my frontend log while cleaning up a plugins problem

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Gurft:

apparently it can't load mythdvd?

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Aval0n:

is nvidia's sli dead now?

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Aval0n:

I have 2 6600gt's in sli

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Aval0n:

and i'm debating how to upgrade

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Aval0n:

I have this board that will do SLI

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Aval0n:

but i'm not seeing a lot of cards with sli option

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Gurft:

is mythdvd no longer a separate plugin?

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jedix:

dunno

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jedix:

I'm having issues with a frontend on another box connecting to my backend

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jedix:

2007-10–14 12:55:04.519 Connecting to backend server: 192.168.1.6:6543 (try 1 of 5)

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jedix:

is 6543 mysql?

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dr_lulz:

no, its a port mythtv uses

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Terrortoertchen:

no 6543 is the port the backend is listening for connections i mean

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dr_lulz:

mysql usually is 3306

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jedix:

k

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jedix:

I can log into mysql via this host as mythtv

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jedix:

so it's not mysql..

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WattoDaToydarian:

jedix, did you set the IP in mythtv-setup on the backend machine?

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Terrortoertchen:

no

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jedix:

yes

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Der_Thomas:

hello, anyone around?

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Der_Thomas:

I'm having a problem with video res

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Der_Thomas:

I just built a new FE and everything is working well, except that when watching TV or recorded video the output is a 1:1 squished looking video

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Der_Thomas:

rather then 4:3

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Der_Thomas:

but my menues are fine

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Der_Thomas:

anyone have any ideas?

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tank-man:

press "w"

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Der_Thomas:

tank-man what does that do?

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tank-man:

change aspect ratio

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tank-man:

while watching, press w. it might be somewhere in the settings too

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tank-man:

not sure

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Der_Thomas:

yeah, I played with that, from the settings

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jedix:

sigh

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Der_Thomas:

if I set it to FILL it works, but I've never had to do that before

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hyenur:

dumb question, why isnt mythtv changing channels when i use the arrow keys? (if i type in numbers it works)

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Terrortoertchen:

hyenur, you have enabled brows mode in the mythtv settings

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Terrortoertchen:

for livetv

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Terrortoertchen:

in this case, you browsing your lineup/channels and after hitting return you switch to the selected one

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Terrortoertchen:

numbers do always the thame thing in livetv, if you type a number a channel is bind to you will switch directly

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hyenur:

"enable interactive tv" ?

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Terrortoertchen:

in browse mode, you can look whats runnig on the channel while wathcing the channel you already are in background

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Der_Thomas:

nyenur, no

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hyenur:

browse mode is actually on

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hyenur:

but i dont have lineup info configured yet

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Terrortoertchen:

switch it off, and you can switch channels directly by pressing up/down

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hyenur:

yup, that works

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hyenur:

thanks :)

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Terrortoertchen:

nope

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Terrortoertchen:

:)

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Der_Thomas:

Strange, I have a 4:3 TV, but if I set my aspect ratio to 16:9 my video problem goes away...

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andrewc:

Right. I think that's my problem fixed. Let's hope it mythbackend automatically reschedules recordings when monkeys like me make manual changes to the program table...

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andrewc:

Also, what sort of name is "Dave" for a TV channel?

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** xand wonders how to make the tv listings data apply to the right channels :| **

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xand:

can someone (probably from the UK) tell me how to make "BBC ONE" for example use the regional BBC ONE listings?

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xand:

(and same for ITV1 etc)

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Der_Thomas:

Anyone know if it is possible to make one set of keys change the channel directly and another browse?

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andrewc:

xand: fire up mythtv-setup and look under channel editor. You have to have an xmltv id for every channel you want listings data for.

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andrewc:

BBC 1 and 2 you have to pick a region for.

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andrewc:

For example, I have a record where name="BBC ONE", callsign="BBC ONE",channum=1,xmltvid="south.bbc1.bbc.co.uk".

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andrewc:

(and it works)

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xand:

hmm

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andrewc:

xand: fyi, I'm using the RT grabber scheduled from cron once a day

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** xand wonders what the difference between "BBC ONE London and South East" and "BBC ONE South East" is **

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Leebier:

i think my brain has melted and i can't find the answer to an easy question. where are the settings to change the size of the OSD?

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** SarahEmm has just upgraded from mythmusic 0.19 to 0.20.2, and upon restarting everything it starts converting the schema, mysql eats up my entire disk space with temp files in /tmp, and everything dies... any idea what's going on with this schema update? **

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Gurft:

anyone know how to change the options in MythMovie to a different zip code

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Gurft:

I can't find it in the menus

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Gurft:

after intial setup

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andrewc:

xand: local news programmes. Historical reasons.

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xand:

I remember they changed the local news some years ago

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xand:

used to be london one

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Gurft:

nevermind, found it

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** andrewc notes the situation is more confusing with ITV1 due to the franchisees using silly names like Meridian or Carlton. **

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andrewc:

Other things to note: "BBC Choice" in xmltv == BBC3 now, and "BBC Knowledge" == BBC4.

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Leebier:

surely there still is a way to resize the on screen menus and info? i know there used to be

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UnixDog:

hey there

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Kazan:

why is video quality bad on low-numbered ntsc!

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UnixDog:

need help with lircd and technisat seriel remotes

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UnixDog:

I cant seem to get mine working

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UnixDog:

anyone have one of these seriel port remotes

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Kazan:

i have a serial port receiver

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Kazan:

it's just an ir receiver that connects to the serial input.. and i use a normal rc5 protocol remote

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UnixDog:

well its not in the list on knoppmyth

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UnixDog:

so I am tring to get it working myself

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Der_Thomas:

UnixDog, I have a serial remote

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xand:

I must be doing something wrong... I click the Delete Channels button in the channel editor and then click Yes to confirm, but the list is the same

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Der_Thomas:

my big problem was evertime I tried to modprobe my dev it would say the device was busy, but it didn't show anything using that port

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Der_Thomas:

I had to use this 1st:

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Der_Thomas:

setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart none

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Der_Thomas:

then I did the same for ttyS1 just incase

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Der_Thomas:

then I modprobe my driveres and it worked

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Perdignus:

Has anyone else noticed a change with btaudio in the 2.6.23 kernel tree?

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UnixDog:

ok

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UnixDog:

I will try it

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xand:

is it safe to remove channels just by deleting from the "channel" mysql table?

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schleyfox:

hey, I was just wondering how I can make my wii go through my mythtv box, I have tried adding it as a new video source but I am reasonably certain that it doesn't actually have channels

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RaYmAn-Bx:

afaik you should be able to assign it a channel anyways..once the source is added..but just keep in mind it's fairly useless to play through, especially if you have a Hauppauge pvr card or similar with hardware encoder

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schleyfox:

anyway I can just have the video input pass through and all

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GreyFoxx:

Not really no

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GreyFoxx:

not using anything built in to myth

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schleyfox:

how about not built into myth

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GreyFoxx:

if you have abttv card you can spawn an external app like xawtv just for the game

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schleyfox:

my tv doesn't have the rca-in type stuff

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schleyfox:

yeah, I have hauppage

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GreyFoxx:

the encoding delay built into the pvr cards would make gameplay suck

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schleyfox:

yeah

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schleyfox:

I can imagine

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schleyfox:

any other thoughts on a way to get my wii onto my screen? I don't really want to have to spawn a new tv in my limited space environment when I have a nice high-res monitor that already behaves with mythtv and all

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tank-man:

get a vga box

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schleyfox:

that could do

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GreyFoxx:

or buy a $10 bttv card

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schleyfox:

thanks

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GreyFoxx:

add a menu item to spawn xawtv to use that card

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schleyfox:

yeah

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schleyfox:

that would do

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tank-man:

i think in ms windows, you could change a register setting to get no delay (for video game play) with pvrx50

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GreyFoxx:

You can pull non encoded raw frames rigjht off the pvr cards (there is a /dev/ entry for it) but I don't know of any apps that use it

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GreyFoxx:

You can get raw video and audio

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schleyfox:

yeah

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GreyFoxx:

But it breaks often and is usualyl just used for testing

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schleyfox:

yep

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schleyfox:

I might as well just drop a few bucks on the vga box

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schleyfox:

thanks for your help

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SarahEmm:

doh. after the schema upgrade died mythbackend won't even start :/

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am_dragon:

hello.

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Der_Thomas:

hi

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am_dragon:

I'm trying to figure out the Remote thing.

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am_dragon:

I'm ordering all the hardware for my myth box next week

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Der_Thomas:

ok whats up

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am_dragon:

I just don't know where to start.

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am_dragon:

I have a harmony remote now. I would like to use that.

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Der_Thomas:

hmm, I have to dig back in my brain for this

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am_dragon:

is there an IR receiver I can just buy plug in and configure?

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dr_lulz:

i wonder if i should buy some new, fancy remote

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kormoc:

am_dragon, there's a list on lirc's website of supported hardware

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Der_Thomas:

well I bought a cheap ($10) one form e-bay to get started and it works well

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Der_Thomas:

you can always buy a fancy remote later to control EVERYTHING

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dr_lulz:

i found mine when looking for something else in some "computer trash" box ;P

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dr_lulz:

i didnt remember i had one befoer *g*

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kormoc:

Der_Thomas, he alread said he has a harmony

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Der_Thomas:

so, wait you are just looking for a receiver?

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am_dragon:

yeah

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Der_Thomas:

I just checked Ebay and searched for lirc and a few receivers showed up ~$15.00

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am_dragon:

I've seen that USB-Uirt, it's on the list at lirc

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am_dragon:

it's only $15

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Der_Thomas:

I've never used a USB receiver, but I'm sure that it is no harder to configure then serial

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am_dragon:

no that wasn't the one.

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am_dragon:

I guess I just want a big pointer that says "buy this on it will work"

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Der_Thomas:

haha, yeah that would be nice huh

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Der_Thomas:

problem is that people won't tell you that because there are so many choices

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Der_Thomas:

I don't know anything about your remote, but I would guess that if you buy any receiver and your remote can learn how to talk to it, then it should work

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Der_Thomas:

it also sounds like your remote is fancy enough that it should be able to talk to any receiver, so I think that you are in a good spot

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am_dragon:

I was looking at the MS MCE remote.. but I have the harmony so...

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am_dragon:

yeah, there are user built config files you can just download to the remote.

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kormoc:

that's the remote I have and it works well

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am_dragon:

maybe I should look around there, perhaps that will point me to a reciever.

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am_dragon:

what type of receiver do you have Kormoc?

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kormoc:

the mce receiver that comes with the remote

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am_dragon:

oh ok, I thought you meant the harmony.

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am_dragon:

Well even if I don't use the remote its farily inexpensive for that setup.

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Der_Thomas:

exactly, you can start with that and then you can confogure the harmony later

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am_dragon:

Ive not really played with myth much but I've been using linux for 8+ years.

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am_dragon:

I'm jst nervous about building a box and running into a ton of problems.

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tank-man:

if you are familiar with linux, you are ahead of most people trying to use mythtv

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Der_Thomas:

that is probably going to be the case, but that is half the fun

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am_dragon:

Ive started to notice most of the people with big problems start with "im new to linux."

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UnixDog:

man this lircd is killing me

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UnixDog:

still no go

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Der_Thomas:

UnixDog, what is going on?

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UnixDog:

I have a seriel port ir

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UnixDog:

but I cant get it to work

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CharlieSu:

anyone use SVN and a MacBook for mythtv frontend?

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CharlieSu:

Or know of a howto on it?

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UnixDog:

I copied the needed config

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UnixDog:

to /etc

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UnixDog:

lircd.conf

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UnixDog:

i restarted lircd

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UnixDog:

but no go still no remote

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Der_Thomas:

type "lsmod | grep lirc"

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Rain_man:

am_dragon> look here, http://www.nabble.com/USB-IR-receiver-for-Har . . . 2s15552.html

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am_dragon:

actully I just found that.

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am_dragon:

the irblaster looks good.

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Rain_man:

mce reciever will work also

[19:26:33]

Der_Thomas:

wait isn't ir blaster a ir SENDER?

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UnixDog:

lirc_serial 15616 1

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UnixDog:

lirc_dev 16260 1 lirc_serial

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kormoc:

yes, irblaster is a sender

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am_dragon:

there is a reciever on their page too though.

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UnixDog:

i am not using irblaster

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Der_Thomas:

am_dragon, you need a receiver not a sender, irblaster is for controling other things with your linux box

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Der_Thomas:

UnixDog, sorry two conversations

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kormoc:

the blaster could also be a receiver as well

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am_dragon:

Sorry, UnixDog, I was asking about IR choices before you came in.

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UnixDog:

ok

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am_dragon:

I was saying I ddn't want big problems. :)

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Der_Thomas:

UnixDog, well it looks like you have your drivers set

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UnixDog:

is there a way to see if the port is recieving

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UnixDog:

how does lirc know what com port to use

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Der_Thomas:

UnixDog type irxevent

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Der_Thomas:

then push buttons on the remote

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Der_Thomas:

UnixDog, not sure

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Der_Thomas:

UnixDog I only have one on my board

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Der_Thomas:

am_dragon, so what does that article say?

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Der_Thomas:

am_dragon, good news?

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UnixDog:

its not getting input

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am_dragon:

yeah, they actually listed a few options for him.

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Der_Thomas:

UnixDog, what happens when you type irxevent?

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UnixDog:

nothing

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UnixDog:

it jusr sits there

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Der_Thomas:

what about "irw"

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UnixDog:

nothing

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am_dragon:

The harmony uses other remote codes, once you have a receiver you just emulate something LIRC knows about like a hauppage remote.

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am_dragon:

or even a IR keyboard.

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UnixDog:

I cant even connect to the serial port

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Der_Thomas:

UnixDog sounds like it is connected otherwise your modprobe would have failed and you would not have loaded your drivers

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Der_Thomas:

UnixDog, also being that irxevent and irw don't bomb right away saying that they could not connect means that you have lirc running

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Der_Thomas:

two stupid questions, you have good batteries in the remote :~) and did the remote come with the receiver?

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UnixDog:

my air2pc card is not even working

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UnixDog:

yet mythtv sees it

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UnixDog:

what the hell

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UnixDog:

I have a techisat tts35ai

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UnixDog:

and a generic ir reciever

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UnixDog:

whats the command to setup irman

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UnixDog:

i think its loading but not grabingthe seriel port

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Der_Thomas:

UnixDog, I don't know. Are you sure that the remote speaks the same language as the receiver?

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UnixDog:

yes

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UnixDog:

I had them working on myth before

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UnixDog:

they came together when I bought the tvcard and remote

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Der_Thomas:

UnixDog, man I'm out of ideas

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robbins876:

I have a weird issue. When I try to play videos in mythvideo or watch livetv/recordings, I get a pink pattern on the screen. The audio is fine, but the video is garbage. To fix it, I change the driver line in xorg.conf from "nvidia" to "nv", reload x, change it back from "nv" to "nvidia" and then it works for a little bit

[19:49:00]

UnixDog:

thumper

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robbins876:

I can't find any rhyme or reason to why it stops working. Myth is the only app that has issues with this

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cheshair:

hi guys, i'd appreciate some help with my mythtv remote control settings. lirc does work with mplayer, doesn't with mythtv. should i enable something in mythtv config? i run mythtv writing mythfrontend in my shell. am i supposed to write "mythfrontend" or "mythtv" in my .lircrc?

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robbins876:

you need a lirc.rc in your ~/mythtv

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cheshair:

robbins876: ah!

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robbins876:

lircrc, i mean

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UnixDog:

ok irw is getting a responce

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cheshair:

robbins876: that's such a surprise, i thought ~/.lircrc had a general validity

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cheshair:

robbins876: i'll have a try at once, thank you veeery much

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robbins876:

cheshair, no problem

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cheshair:

(robbins876: you meant ~/.mythtv/lircrc, didn't you?)

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robbins876:

cheshair, yes sir

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am_dragon:

can't wait until my parts come so I can have all this fun. :)

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UnixDog:

Der_Thomas:

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UnixDog:

it looks like myth is the issue

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UnixDog:

i reset the box with the conf file

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cheshair:

robbins876: you are a genius!!! it works greatly!!!

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UnixDog:

and the irw shos output

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robbins876:

cheshair, good deal man

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UnixDog:

but myth is not responding

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robbins876:

UnixDog, you need a lircrc in your ~/mythtv

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robbins876:

just went over this a minute ago

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UnixDog:

there is one

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cheshair:

UnixDog: it seems we ran into the very same problem in a few minutes

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robbins876:

UnixDog, is is setup for your remote?

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UnixDog:

it loks to be

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UnixDog:

I will have to read threw it but it looks to be

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cheshair:

UnixDog: try with a very simple sample

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UnixDog:

ok the power button works

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cheshair:

UnixDog: does it agree with your /etc/lirc/lircd.conf configs?

[20:02:06]

UnixDog:

the ok button works bot thats all

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UnixDog:

I guess I have to fight with the rc file

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cheshair:

robbins876: how can i start mythtv with my remote? my current scenario requires a shell with irexec launched and the focus on it: no good. can't it be more trasparent?

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cheshair:

robbins876: bad question? i didn't explain very well...

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am_dragon:

cheshair: does your mythtv box boot to shell?

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cheshair:

am_dragon: i launch mythtv writing mythfrontend on my shell. otherwise i open a shell, launch irexec and then use my remote to make mythfrontend start

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CharlieSu:

is there any documentation on the Contrib OSX stuff?

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cheshair:

am_dragon: i wish i didn't have to launch irexec

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venger:

cheshair, wouldn't .xinitrc suffice for launching all that when X starts?

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am_dragon:

cheshair: can you just write a script and put it in the session startup?

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cheshair:

venger and am_dragon: i was afraid i needed to have focus on a shell with irexec launched: this is obviously not the case. me stupid! thanks both of you!!

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robbins876:

In mythweb, is it possible to stream videos the same way as with TV shows?

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in8:

what would the best nvidia driver to use for a 6200? I have myth running on :0.1 but would still like to use display :0.0 for surfing etc. I did't have performance problems before I upgraded to svn trunk and an old mx4000. have I possibly shot myself in the foot by upgrading? cpu is sitting @ about 30% for the frontend (not too high I know) main problem is stuttering video while scrolling in firefox on display :0.0

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in8:

machine is frontend only... backend is seperate

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venger:

so xorg is using the nvidia proprietary driver?

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in8:

yeah 100.19.11 atm

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in8:

tried 100.19.14 but had video corruption

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venger:

just suprised you'd have stuttering in scrolling, that's usually a result of video driver

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in8:

I have damageevents set in xorg

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in8:

amog others... I'll post my xorg.conf if that would help

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venger:

i dont use or nor aware of that setting but it could cause overhead?

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venger:

sure post it so maybe any of us could take a gander

[21:23:16]

in8:

supposed to just redraw portions of the screen that are damaged (updated)

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in8:

one sec

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venger:

did you mess with upgrading xorg or anything else prior or as a result of the switch to svn trunk?

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in8:

well a complete os upgrade.... hdd died....

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in8:

http://pastebin.com/d4cd573d0

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in8:

here is my xorg

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Mr_Grieves:

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Mr_Grieves:

It's is apparently the system, but I'm lost as to how to fix it.

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dr_lulz:

can you give the exact compiler command line and the first error msgs?

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in8:

mythtv compiled fine though?

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Mr_Grieves:

Here a pastebin of the mythplugins make: http://pastebin.com/m65449c8f

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Mr_Grieves:

in8: No problems with mythtv.

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dr_lulz:

/usr/local/include/mythtv/libmythtv/recordingtypes.h:4:21: error: mythexp.h: No such file or directory

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in8:

can you post the results of ./configure?

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dr_lulz:

did you install mythtv from some binary package which didnt include the headers?

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Mr_Grieves:

The apt-get binaries were installed, but were removed.

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dr_lulz:

see if you have the mythtv headers somewhere on your system

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dr_lulz:

see /usr/include/mythtv

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dr_lulz:

hrm

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dr_lulz:

you have -I/include/mythtv, that seems weird to me

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dr_lulz:

-I/usr/include/mythtv sounds more logical

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Mr_Grieves:

in8: ./configure output http://pastebin.com/m2c6a173d

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Mr_Grieves:

dr_lulz: I'll look there.

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Mr_Grieves:

dr_lulz: should I uninstall mythtv first, and then check?

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venger:

in8 i'm confused about your question about asking for best driver for the 6200 but stating that you are now using a mx4000 with svn. isn't the 6200 a better than the mx4000?

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robbins876:

I have a weird issue. When I try to play videos in mythvideo or watch livetv/recordings, I get a pink pattern on the screen. The audio is fine, but the video is garbage. To fix it, I change the driver line in xorg.conf from "nvidia" to "nv", reload x, change it back from "nv" to "nvidia" and then it works for a little bit

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dr_lulz:

i dont think that is neccessary or helpful.. lemme have a look at the mythplugins stuff

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robbins876:

I can't find any rhyme or reason to why it stops working. Myth is the only app that has issues with this

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in8:

was using an mx4000 with .20

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venger:

ok so "from"

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in8:

and driver 8776 I believe

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robbins876:

in8, what kind of video corruption were you having with 100.19.14?

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in8:

had to use a legacy driver with the older card

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robbins876:

oh, i wonder if going back will help me

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in8:

green videos...

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robbins876:

yeah!

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robbins876:

and pink tv?

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in8:

completely unwatchable

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in8:

yup

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robbins876:

stupid

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robbins876:

did you read my post above?

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robbins876:

looks like it's the same problem, when you went to the older drive it works alright?

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in8:

you using 100.19.14?

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Mr_Grieves:

dr_lulz: nothing in /usr/include/mythtv nor /usr/local/include/mythtv

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in8:

if so revert to 100.19.11

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robbins876:

in8, doing that now

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robbins876:

what's the process to uninstall a driver?

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robbins876:

i installed using NVIDIA-Linux-x86–100.14.19-pkg1.run

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in8:

restarting x fixed the problem temporarly right?

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cal:

i selected job-options/transcode to manually transcode a show, but nothing seemed to have happened...?

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robbins876:

in8, if i switched to nv instead of nvidia, then back to nvidia it would work

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dr_lulz:

Mr_Grieves: that seems weird to me too, but that compiler invocation line also riddles me

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in8:

just download and install 11 it'll take care of it

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dr_lulz:

Mr_Grieves: i'd like to investigate the issue, but i dont have enough time – gotta do some work and go to bed :(

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robbins876:

do i need to remove 14 first, in8?

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in8:

nope

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dr_lulz:

Mr_Grieves: good luck :)

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in8:

I had to do the same lastnight

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dr_lulz:

Mr_Grieves: do you have some /include directory?

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Mr_Grieves:

dr_lulz: :D So g++ problem you think?

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in8:

took a while to google the problem....

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venger:

in8 what about commenting glx long enough to test scrolling in firefox just to see if anything changes?

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in8:

I could try that....

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dr_lulz:

Mr_Grieves: no

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Mr_Grieves:

dr_lulz: Nope.

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robbins876:

in8, so just install the 11 drivers over the 14 ones and it should work, eh? i'm going to try it

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in8:

I'll switch to the server for irc... one sec... need to restart x

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dr_lulz:

Mr_Grieves: the makefile should give the compiler arguments, and the -I arguments(showing the compiler where to look for include files) seem weird

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robbins876:

in8, where'd you get the 11 package?

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robbins876:

i need it

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dr_lulz:

no clue about qmake/whatever or how the makefiles are generated, i'd have to read up on that

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Mr_Grieves:

dr_lulz: I can pastebin the makefile and config.log if they'd help

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in8:

nvidia site

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robbins876:

all i can find is 14

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in8:

look under the archive section

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dr_lulz:

at least it wouldnt help _me_ ;) but i suppose somebody else here will be more proficient in that area

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robbins876:

nevermind

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in8:

should be the 2nd one down

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dr_lulz:

gotta go, good night

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Mr_Grieves:

Ok :)

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in8:

brb

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dr_lulz:

Mr_Grieves: if you solve the problem, please tell me how :> (just query me here, even if i'm not there)

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Mr_Grieves:

So, to recap: I'm trying to use this makefile: http://pastebin.com/m13c54161 to compile mythplugins, but I'm getting this error with make: http://pastebin.com/m65449c8f

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Mr_Grieves:

SVN on ubuntu.

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Mr_Grieves:

dr_lulz: Will do

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in8-2:

haha... after disabling glx I have no menu... need to switch to qt I guess... :)

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venger:

in8–2, oh you went straight to test myth?

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Mr_Grieves:

My problem looks to be the same as this guy's, except on x86: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/1786

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Mr_Grieves:

No suggestions, the ticket was just closed as invalid with no suggestion for support :(

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in8-2:

yeah... whoops

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robbins876:

hopefully that fixes it

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Gurft:

out of curiousity Mr_Grieves, is that the makefile you pulled from SVN

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Gurft:

or is it modified

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Gurft:

I built mythplugins from SVN this morning on Edgy with no issues.....

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Mr_Grieves:

Gurft: that was the makefile made by configure a few moments ago.

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robbins876:

in my live tv all of the channels say Adding Channel

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Gurft:

Mr_Grieves, I wonder if maybe you actually have myth installed with a prefix of /usr?

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robbins876:

and isthmus doesn't show channel numbers

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Gurft:

instead of /usr/local

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Gurft:

and you need to run configure --prefix=/usr?

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Gurft:

or visa versa

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robbins876:

anyone know how i can fix that?

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Gurft:

Mr-Grieves, have you already done the make install on the mythtv trunk source before trying to build the plugins?

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Gurft:

that can also bork you

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Mr_Grieves:

Gurft: I'm about to check that. I configured before installing mythtv, ran make afterwards. I'm going to try reconfiging now with myth installed.

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Gurft:

I bet you $1 that's your problem ;)

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Mr_Grieves:

Gurft: That seems to be it :) Compiling with no issues

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Mr_Grieves:

dr_lulz: [solved] above

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Gurft:

good stuff. I get slammed by that with all kinds of symbol resolution stuff every time I update. you'd think I'd learn by now.

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in8-2:

yeah ok still stutering with glx diabled

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Mr_Grieves:

:D I'd just never seen special characters in compile errors before. Tht really threw me. Thanks for the help!

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Gurft:

no prob

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venger:

in8–2, the only thing i can suggest is try a few previous drivers and also search nvnews.net regarding xorg, 6200, etc. sorry i couldn't help.

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robbins876:

in8–2, i'm so glad you figured it was a driver issue, i was getting so angry

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in8-2:

np thanks for the help though venger

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in8-2:

I just hope nv fixes that with the next release

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venger:

in8–2, you running a stock or custom kernel?

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in8-2:

stock

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in8-2:

was considering pimping this kernel out

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in8-2:

only running 2.6.22–1 stock from mepis 7

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venger:

i wouldn't say only, anything 22 is pretty damn new, at least to me

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in8-2:

yeah I suppose.

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venger:

it doesn't take long though i run .6 lately and last i checked .9 was available

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in8-2:

server is running 2.6.18 custom

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matspekkie:

hm anyone build the latest svn and discovered there is a problem for update dabase?

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in8-2:

well I think I may roll a kernel.... (I'm bored)

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in8-2:

run mythtv-setup

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venger:

i just switched my server over to an amd chip, couldn't be happier

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in8-2:

may want to backup first...

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venger:

long time intel bigot here

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in8-2:

I've been with amd for a while... liked them....

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in8-2:

was considering a core2 for the next upgrade though

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matspekkie:

i did make an backup just before but it is silly what mythbackend gives me

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in8-2:

backend will not start without the schema update

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in8-2:

let me guess 1199 to 1200?

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matspekkie:

Warning: MythTV wants to upgrade your database schema, from 1199 to 1200.

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matspekkie:

Shall I upgrade this database? [yes]

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matspekkie:

[console is not interactive, using default 'yes']

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matspekkie:

A database backup might be a good idea

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matspekkie:

Are you sure you want to upgrade? [no]

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matspekkie:

[console is not interactive, using default 'no']

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matspekkie:

2007-10–14 23:59:35.749 Couldn't upgrade database to new schema

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in8-2:

run mythtv-setup

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matspekkie:

ok i will

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in8-2:

it'll fix itself

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in8-2:

took me a few mins to figgure that out....

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Der_Thomas:

hi I have a general question about picture quality.

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in8-2:

anyone else in here runing trunk with noticeable performance decrease over the release version?

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in8-2:

ok....

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venger:

i think core2's are at their lowest right now, the e6600 was 311 back in september of last year

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in8-2:

well the prices do seem right, right now...

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in8-2:

amd is still considerably cheaper

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Der_Thomas:

I have a BE setup with a PVR 150 and a FE on a EPIA-M, when I run on my TV and flip between this as a video source and my regualr TV cable box, the cable box is much sharper and handels motion much better

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venger:

right along with comparable motherboards being cheaper

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in8-2:

what video card/driver?

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Der_Thomas:

an example is watching sports today, the "crawl" of other scores at the bottom of the screen looks a bit fuxxy and hard to read

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Der_Thomas:

unichrome on board using the via driver

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in8-2:

hrmmm never used unichrome sorry....

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venger:

yea, was just reading on that

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in8-2:

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