Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Monday, July 23rd, 2007, 00:00 UTC

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kormoc:

is your default spdif?

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jedix:

no, it's iec958 0x02

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kormoc:

so you're saying your default isn't spdif but when you set it to default, it doesn't use the spdif

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** kormoc fails to see the issue **

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jedix:

what I'm saying is that iec958 is spdif without autdetect

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jedix:

and it fails to output to the correct device

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kormoc:

so just tell it to output to the spdif

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jedix:

no, I should have said to output to iec958

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kormoc:

you might need to create a asoundrc or similar, alsa's website has more info

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jedix:

I'm using this one: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Asoundrc_alc850

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jedix:

as that's the card I have

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jedix:

but when I try and say ALSA:digital-hw, it doesn't work

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jedix:

says the device doesn't exist

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kormoc:

that's a asoundrc for a older alsa version then currently shipping with gentoo, it might not be entirely valid

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jedix:

I don't run gentoo

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kormoc:

then it might be too new for your distro

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** kormoc shrugs **

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jedix:

k, thanks anyways

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kormoc:

asoundrcs are notoriously version dependant

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jedix:

how do I get a listing of alsa devices?

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jedix:

ah aplay -l

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my2keh:

well turns out you don't need a PVR-150/250 in your system to use the hauppauge remote

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my2keh:

hmmm

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alieas:

I put a mythbox on my first LCD (DVI to HDMI), and oddly, 4:3 appears to be the correct video aspect size. When hooked up to a CRT (DVI to HDMI), "off" produces the correct aspect ratio. I don't want to have to change my aspect override to 4:3, is there something else I should be looking at?

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mchou:

!seen ShockValue

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MythLogBot:

ShockValue is here and has been idle for 16 hours 58 minutes 37 seconds

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rhollan:

anyone here have experience with minimyth?

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rhollan:

is there anybody out there?

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kormoc:

nope, all gone

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my2keh:

i'm here

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my2keh:

but of no help!

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my2keh:

i have enough of my own problems

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rhollan:

I'm wondering if the stock minimyth kernels support ext2 filesystems. I want the accellerated X drivers for the VIA EPIA platform, but also a local disk: I can stuff 500GB of videos into a Silverstone LC08 case

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cesman:

rhollan: It should...

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cesman:

there is a minimyth forum, I'd suggest a Google search

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cesman:

KnoppMyth also has what you are looking for

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my2keh:

anyone get this error when doing a lirc-reconfig.sh

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my2keh:

I couldn't load the required kernel modules ##

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my2keh:

## You should install lirc-modules-source to build ##

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my2keh:

## kernel support for your hardware.

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my2keh:

?

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kormoc:

I'm sure someone has before

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cesman:

my2keh: lirc-reconfig is KnoppMyth specific

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my2keh:

ohhhhh

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my2keh:

not so many people in that room ;)

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my2keh:

i'll try anyways

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jedix:

agr

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jedix:

rate doesn't match

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Esine:

Hi everyone. I'm planning to make a Linux HTPC system. It'd be used as a replacement for a digital TV receiver for our TV. Besides the usual watching, recording, checking EPG, etc. we'd also like to do some other things with it. Like, browse the web on the TV (kind of like Wii with Opera, but we'd use keyboard/mouse to control it). Is this possible?

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jedix:

god damnit.

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Esine:

I know my way around Linux (been using it as my primary os since 2002) and I know shell scripting, etc. so even if it has to be custom made that's no problem

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kormoc:

Esine, mythbrowser is a webbrowser plugin for myth

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Esine:

ohh good

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Esine:

it uses Gecko right?

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kormoc:

based on konqueror actually

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Esine:

ah

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Esine:

well I was actually thinking if we could cram Opera on the HTPC. It's *a lot* easier to control with keyboard and the zooming features are really really nifty

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Esine:

so maybe I could just configure the window manager to switch between mythtv and web browser if I hit a key?

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cesman:

then install Opera

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cesman:

create a menu entry that will launch it from MythTV

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Esine:

Sounds good. What kind of processor should I use for the HTPC? I was thinking some quiet VIA CPU but are those things powerful enough?

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cesman:

enough for what?

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cesman:

SD?

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Esine:

how about video output? should I stick in a cheap geforce/matrox/what ever and get the video out from the s-video?

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cesman:

HD?

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Speedy2:

Esine: Core Solo is what I would suggest. Core2Duo if you want HD

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Esine:

SDTV I think

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cesman:

no, don't think

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Speedy2:

Esine: nVidia with TV-out.

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cesman:

give specifcs for a proper answer

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Esine:

well here in northern europe the digital tv broadcasts are SDTV only currently I think..

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Esine:

also we need to be able to record and watch the TV at the same time (which requires two TV cards AFAIK)

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cesman:

then a Via should work

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cesman:

if you plan before you buy, you can get one that supports HD

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cesman:

I'd _highly_ suggest checking the OpenChrome archives

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Esine:

thanks

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cesman:

you're welcome

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Speedy2:

Esine: Core Solo runs cool and you get benefit of decent Intel chipsets.

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Esine:

Speedy2, we'll look into that thanks

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jedix:

screw it, I won't use mythmusic

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jedix:

should be an option to use mplayer to play music

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jedix:

it just works.

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rhollan:

cesman: yeah but the docs say that only FAT filesystems are supported. I want to use ext2 on the HD (mostly because I already have 500GB of videos on an ext2 partiton on an HD)

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cesman:

what?

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rhollan:

I googled for minimyth irc channels but could not find any

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cesman:

minimyth only supports FAT?!

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rhollan:

that's what the docs say

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cesman:

I know they had a forum...

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cesman:

well, like I stated...KnoppMyth has what you desire

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rhollan:

yeah, but I can't find an IRC channel for them.

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rhollan:

yeah, but does KnoppMyth support the CN400?

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cesman:

does a bear....

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cesman:

well, you know the rest

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rhollan:

O.K. I'll check Knoppmyth, then.

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cesman:

:)

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cesman:

hope it is to your liking

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Esine:

btw does MythTV support Conax?

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kormoc:

rhollan, just so you know, cesman is the knoppmyth dev

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rhollan:

hmm nothing about CN400 support in the docs. Last time I built X to support it myself was a real PITA

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kormoc:

Esine, conax?

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Esine:

it's a paid tv encryption system of some sort. You buy some sort of smart card from a store and put it in your receiver and magically you can see more channels

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kormoc:

no idea

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cesman:

rhollan: KnoppMyth should detect and set things up for Unichrome and UniPro

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cesman:

CN400 is unipro

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cesman:

if you like to test a the latest version w/ updated OpenCHrome, PM me...

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cesman:

or respond to mine....

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rhollan:

cool! Sure, I'll beta a bleeding edge version. Right now, I have a 500GB disk with mostly ripped ISOs and CDs on it, and space for a boot, root, and swap parts. PM me back with details on where to download the latest stuff to test.

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kormoc:

rhollan, PM means private, you didn't PM him that time

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rhollan:

Oh, in case anyone's interested, I have a nice X modeline for the Gateway 24" 1920x1200 LCD monitor.

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rhollan:

kormoc: right, but I respond to public msgs publicly. We have a private chat going as well

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kormoc:

meh, when it's requested to go privately, it seems strange to continue publically

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** kormoc shrugs **

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my2keh:

whoooooo caressss

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xris:

my2keh: well, in this case... the people who don't like it when people here talk about non-legal activities... "mostly ripped" means some <= 49% that are not.

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rhollan:

Er, FWIW I have the DVDs and CDs from which I ripped all my content.

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kormoc:

it's just better to not discuss what you have on your drives

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my2keh:

xris>> I was more interested in the fact that he was going to test the latest stuff

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my2keh:

his legality is his problem

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rhollan:

yes, I'm willing to do that.

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weltschmerz:

is there a module for mythtv to receive rss-casts?

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kormoc:

mythnews I believe

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rhollan:

I've got a nanoITX 1.3 GHHz in a silverstone LC08 case, with hand-crafted X with openchrome support on a full FC3 install — just to test things out. Time to actually tune it to a myth-specific distro.

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rhollan:

is the latest stuff avail via CVS or SVN or do I have to get it privately?

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kormoc:

cesman is the only one that knows about knoppmyth

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rhollan:

O.K. now would be a good time for me to install the right drive in the test system

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** cesman wonders if rhollan will respond to his query... **

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** rhollan notes that he has been privately **

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cesman:

odd

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cesman:

rhollan: did you get me last message?

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rhollan:

cessman: yes, and I responded. Perhaps if we kill the PM session and try to open it again

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rhollan:

try to pm me again

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Kernel:

could someone maby help me out with this : http://pastebin.ulteo.us/7438 ..im running mandriva 2007.1

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cesman:

Kernel: would help if you posted details

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cesman:

but from what I see, I assume you are having issues w/ a PVR card?

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Kernel:

cesman: yes sorry. a pvr-150

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cesman:

look like perhaps you don't have the firm required

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rhollan:

I see cesman in a PM window and responded

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cesman:

rhollan: I'm not seeing your responce

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Kernel:

i installed ivtv and im now trying to get it to work. it wouldnt load b4. now it loads but errors.

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cesman:

huh?

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rhollan:

that is odd

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rhollan:

perhaps if I try to pm you.

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cesman:

well, from what I see... you are missing the firmware required

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Kernel:

hmm

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kormoc:

rhollan, you're not registered with nickserv, freenode blocks PMs from unregistered and identified users

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rhollan:

Ah.

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rhollan:

and to register, I have to...?

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Dagmar:

Kernel: Go back into your kernel config and turn OFF the option to autoselect which v4l2 support modules to use

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kormoc:

rhollan, //msg nickser help register

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kormoc:

with only one /

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cesman:

odd...

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Dagmar:

Kernel: Then go into the section that has been hidden becuase of that and turn everything in there on as modules

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cesman:

usually I get a message when I PM someone that isn't registered....

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cesman:

well, dinner time!

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Dagmar:

Kernel: And then actually follow the directions on ivtvdriver.org about firmware

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rhollan:

register 14bddoqc

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rhollan:

well that was great...

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Kernel:

hmm Dagmar i shouldnt have to recompile a kernel. ive used this card on this distro b4...same kernel

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Dagmar:

Okay, Believe what you like. I only know how to read. That's no special skill I suppose

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kormoc:

rhollan, and this is why you use a different password for everything, so it one leaks, the others are safe

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rhollan:

these are throwaway

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Dagmar:

Nevermind, of course, that I've read certain things in that dmesg dozens of times

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Kernel:

Dagmar: lol. ive had this work. using this kernel on this distro using this card...why would i recompile a kernel when it works on this?

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Dagmar:

Kernel: Yes, clearly it's working so very well

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kormoc:

Kernel, it's not like your pastebin isn't telling you the error... oh wait, line #566, where it can't open the firmware...

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Kernel:

meh....no need to give me attitude man.

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Dagmar:

...and lines 563 and 564 where it's calling you a moron

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Kernel:

Dagmar: fuck off

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Kernel:

no need to be a jerk

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Dagmar:

Kernel: You wanted an answer. You got an answer. You're being a thick skull to people who have been seeing these same error messages for months and months now and who know exactly what causes them

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Dagmar:

So, you can go suck it

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Kernel:

lol sorry if im not a uber nerd with mythtv

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Dagmar:

Yeah, too bad you're just a tiny prick

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Dagmar:

Welcome to the ignore list

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Kernel:

lol

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Dagmar:

The poseur-emo domain name should have been a big clue

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rhollan:

downloading the ISO casman suggested. Will try it out

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cesman:

Kernel: it isn't about being a uber nerd

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cesman:

it is about common sense

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cesman:

the log clears state there is an issue w/ the firmware

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kormoc:

as well as missing kernel modules which are required

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Dagmar:

cesman: The logs also state he's using a ludicrously old version of ivtv, let's not forget that

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cesman:

lol

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cesman:

yeah, that was my first thought

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Dagmar:

That kind of goes forward to show "I don't actually do my own research or I'd have seen the front page of ivtvdriver.org by now"

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cesman:

upgrade that thing...

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Dagmar:

But of course, he doesn't *need* to actually upgrade anything because he says he's gotten this combination to work before

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cesman:

well, teriyaki steak awaits

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Kernel:

meh i use a rpm based distro for a reason. so i dont have to compile shit for myself

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cesman:

bbl

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kormoc:

Kernel, then go talk to your upstream provider for help

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Kernel:

and i and others have used this combo.

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Dagmar:

...which now, I no longer care if I hurt his feelings, so I'm just going to come out and say that's a load of bullshit

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Kernel:

kormoc: i have been. i just asked in here cuz i thought maby someone might know also.

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Kernel:

lol hurt my feelings....its irc man.....nothing on here can hurt my feelings...maby you should take a break and get back to real life.

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kormoc:

our answers are basically don't wait for upstream to fix it, do it yourself. You really only have those two paths

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rhollan:

heh. iMedia Myth install recognized USB flash disks as well as CF cards

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robbins876:

On a frontend-only machine, i have to make it mount the movies and posters directories in the same place as they are on the backend, right?

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hatredx:

yes, for the databases sake

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hatredx:

I wonder if that will ever be changed ...

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robbins876:

alright, and I had it set up using CIFS shares

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robbins876:

do i set that up again on the backend using system-config-samba?

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** hatredx shrugs **

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robbins876:

I dont' remember how I did it before

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hatter:

hi, i have mythdora which was working fine until i changed video cards and now the screen has invisible icons

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Hoxzer:

eh.... Mythweb Mobile seems to show five topic at the top of the screen in some wierd language :/

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Hoxzer:

s/topic/links

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Speedy2:

Hrm, MythDVD just dies after showing the menu of a DVD for about 20 seconds

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robbins876:

when i try to run mythtv-setup or mythfrontend on my dedicated frontend I get a bunch of mysql errors

[03:41:13]

robbins876:

anyway I can check that or fix it?

[03:41:30]

robbins876:

don't mind that, that was jibberish

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Speedy2:

robbins876: What are the errors? You probably need qt-sql.

[03:42:00]

robbins876:

Speedy2, well, i had everything working for a few months, then I just installed Fedora 7 and apparently I've done something wrong as far as the SQL goes

[03:42:42]

kormoc:

robbins876, sharing the actual error messages tends to help one get help...

[03:44:51]

robbins876:

yeah, understandably so

[03:44:59]

robbins876:

well, when first of all, I'm using wilson's guide

[03:45:10]

robbins876:

but when I get to this point where I'm wroking with sql...

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robbins876:

mysql> UPDATE user SET Password=PASSWORD('ROOT_PWD') WHERE user='root';

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robbins876:

mysql> FLUSH PRIVILEGES;

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robbins876:

mysql> quit

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robbins876:

on the FLUSH PRIVILEGES; part it tells me that ERROR 1064 (42000): You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'FLUSH PRIVILEGES' at line 2

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robbins876:

that's the first problem, i think

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robbins876:

however, if i take off the ; it works

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robbins876:

the actual error message on the mythtv-setup on the frontend box is... host 192.168.1.3 could not connect to this database

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kormoc:

remote frontend?

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robbins876:

yeah

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robbins876:

i got the flush thing to work just now

[03:53:36]

robbins876:

but the remote box is still giving me that smae error

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kormoc:

did you follow the documentation's instructions on how to enable remote frontends?

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robbins876:

no sire

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robbins876:

sir

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robbins876:

i didn't know there was documentation on it

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kormoc:

there is

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robbins876:

but, i'm looking at it now

[04:01:26]

Hoxzer:

is it possible to change language in mythweb mobile ?

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CWO4Mann:

ne1 set up myth under ubuntu? i am trying ... but have a permissions problem I think. I am following the instructions on the ubuntu wiki explicitly too

[04:22:07]

CWO4Mann:

i used sudo to chown and then went into mysql to reset the user name and password to mythtv and mythtv like the wiki says

[04:22:17]

CWO4Mann:

still can't get past the setup screen

[04:24:14]

CWO4Mann:

ok, last chance to help me out ... I am going to hold my breath until my eyes pop out

[04:24:58]

xris:

CWO4Mann: did you fix mysql.txt, too?

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kormoc:

Aww... I wanted to watch him pass out

[04:25:29]

CWO4Mann:

whew! I was almost to the point where my eyes wouldn't pop back in ... yes, I did i did sudo gedit and changed both password and user name

[04:25:38]

CWO4Mann:

heh

[04:25:44]

CWO4Mann:

must be the lag

[04:26:49]

CWO4Mann:

so, i've changed the mysql.txt, and done the other points in the wiki but still get a message that myth can't connect to sql. Also when doing the check to see if the backend is running it says no backend found

[04:27:50]

CWO4Mann:

dave@TheMightyWurlitzer:/usr/bin$ ./mythbackend

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CWO4Mann:

2007-07–22 19:47:34.919 Using runtime prefix = /usr

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CWO4Mann:

2007-07–22 19:47:34.960 New DB connection, total: 1

[04:28:03]

CWO4Mann:

2007-07–22 19:47:34.968 Unable to connect to database!

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CWO4Mann:

2007-07–22 19:47:34.968 Driver error was [1/1045]:

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CWO4Mann:

QMYSQL3: Unable to connect

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CWO4Mann:

Database error was:

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CWO4Mann:

Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES)

[04:28:23]

CWO4Mann:

QSqlQuery::exec: database not open

[04:28:35]

CWO4Mann:

QSqlQuery::exec: database not open

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CWO4Mann:

2007-07–22 19:47:35.026 DB Error (KickDatabase):

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CWO4Mann:

Query was:

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CWO4Mann:

SELECT NULL;

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CWO4Mann:

No error type from QSqlError? Strange...

[04:28:55]

** cesman ponders if CWO4Mann is a military man... **

[04:28:55]

CWO4Mann:

2007-07–22 19:47:35.092 Failed to init MythContext, exiting.

[04:28:59]

CWO4Mann:

dave@TheMightyWurlitzer:/usr/bin$ sudo chown mythtv.mythtv /var/lib/mythtv

[04:29:03]

CWO4Mann:

dave@TheMightyWurlitzer:/usr/bin$ sudo chmod u=rwx,g=rwxs,o=rx /var/lib/mythtv

[04:29:07]

CWO4Mann:

dave@TheMightyWurlitzer:/usr/bin$ sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend restart

[04:29:11]

CWO4Mann:

Restarting MythTV server: mythbackend No /usr/bin/mythbackend found running; none killed.

[04:29:15]

CWO4Mann:

.

[04:29:19]

CWO4Mann:

.

[04:29:23]

CWO4Mann:

dave@TheMightyWurlitzer:/usr/bin$ ps -p `cat /var/run/mythtv/mythbackend.pid`

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cesman:

CWO4Mann: like the topic states. use pastebin....

[04:29:27]

CWO4Mann:

PID TTY TIME CMD

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CWO4Mann:

dave@TheMightyWurlitzer:/usr/bin$

[04:29:43]

CWO4Mann:

dave@TheMightyWurlitzer:/usr/bin$ ps -p `cat /var/run/mythtv/mythbackend.pid`

[04:29:47]

CWO4Mann:

PID TTY TIME CMD

[04:29:47]

CWO4Mann:

dave@TheMightyWurlitzer:/usr/bin$

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CWO4Mann:

that's the situation

[04:29:47]

CWO4Mann:

yes CWO4 Mann is a military man, thank you

[04:29:47]

CWO4Mann:

but he likes to hold his breath until his eyes pop out a lot

[04:29:59]

xris:

CWO4Mann: please use a pastebin next time...

[04:30:01]

CWO4Mann:

well by golly, I thought I did a paste bin

[04:30:04]

xris:

(consider that a first warning)

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cesman:

which branch?

[04:30:10]

CWO4Mann:

here, let me kick myself

[04:30:14]

CWO4Mann:

ouch!

[04:30:25]

CWO4Mann:

now, anyone have any ideas about this problem of mine?

[04:31:14]

xris:

CWO4Mann: run `mythbackend -v all` and see what it says it's using to connect to the db.

[04:31:21]

xris:

it's possible you have multiple mysql.txt files

[04:31:22]

CWO4Mann:

ok, WILCO

[04:31:28]

CWO4Mann:

brb

[04:31:31]

clever:

sudo mythtv mythbackend -v all

[04:31:32]

CWO4Mann:

wait, out

[04:31:34]

clever:

i think would do it

[04:31:40]

clever:

wait forgot a -u

[04:31:46]

clever:

sudo -u mythtv mythbackend -v all

[04:31:57]

clever:

might also need -h to fix up $HOME

[04:32:21]

clever:

which would be -H

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xris:

clever: wouldn't matter for connecting to the db

[04:33:02]

clever:

the mysql.txt could be in mythtv's home folder

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CWO4Mann:

Am I naughty if I post the 16 lines which I have just sseen on my terminal?

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clever:

and he might run it under the dave username which fromthat chown/mod would lack access

[04:33:31]

** clever points at www.pastebin.ca **

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xris:

CWO4Mann: yeah. generally "more than 2" is too much

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clever:

i get in trouble forpasting 3–4 lines:P

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CWO4Mann:

sorry i am not familiar with irc, having only loaded konversation for my adventures with ubuntu setup. actually i thought all irc was used for was porn but i see that i am wrong

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kormoc:

text porn is so 20 years ago

[04:35:10]

clever:

lol

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kormoc:

you're likely confusing irc with newsgroups

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cesman:

I guess kormoc nect eard of DCC ;)

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clever:

irc can still be used for sharing links and files of that stuff:P

[04:35:33]

CWO4Mann:

ne way i dont need it .. i strangle stray kittens .. but back to business ... how do i do this bin post thing so i don't make the guru's angry

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cesman:

man...what did I spell?

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kormoc:

cesman, it's not all that common anymore

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xris:

CWO4Mann: go to pastebin.ca

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clever:

years ago i found a channel which had a near constant flood of links to that stuff:P

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xris:

paste your stuff there, then paste the link to it back here.

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clever:

never could find it again:P

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CWO4Mann:

ok, sigh ... this makes it so much more lengthy but yes i'll give that a try

[04:36:16]

kormoc:

CWO4Mann, you might also want to read the links in the topic, in there you'll find the channel rules and the like

[04:36:19]

xris:

clever: #autopr0n? (laments the demise of autopr0n.com)

[04:36:37]

clever:

lol

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CWO4Mann:

read the instructions? that is like so totally 1970's

[04:36:44]

clever:

neverheard of that site

[04:36:46]

CWO4Mann:

:-)

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cesman:

I guess the name describes it all....

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clever:

i think it was in mirc's default list of servers

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CWO4Mann:

see i know how to make a happy face

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CWO4Mann:

brb

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clever:

but i found it when i was anirc noob

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clever:

before i had loging enabled

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clever:

even if i found that old install of mirc id probly find no trace of having been there

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kormoc:

xris, don't lament it, he was paid a lot of money to shut it down and he was tired of it anyway

[04:37:50]

xris:

kormoc: ah.. from his blog, it sounded the other way around.

[04:38:04]

xris:

but I was sort of being facetious, anyway.

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CWO4Mann:

is that a web site i am supposed to go to? BTW I am listening to Bjork on radioparadise right now and she is so... ummmm ... unusual ... singing the song "Sensuality"

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CWO4Mann:

NM ... here it is Gospodinyi : http://www.pastebin.ca/630401

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CWO4Mann:

Ah Bjork ....

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CWO4Mann:

autopr0n ???

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CWO4Mann:

ok folks, let's see what kind of a problem I have with myth? Who's looked at the pastebin besides moi oci?

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xris:

CWO4Mann: was a website that "automatically" listed links to porn.

[04:44:06]

Setite:

hey all have a question

[04:44:12]

** Hoxzer is confuges with mythweb(mobile) language **

[04:44:19]

Hoxzer:

s/confuges/confused

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CWO4Mann:

aha . that's so ... uhhhh 1980's AOL

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Setite:

all the guides i foudn on google told me how to play videos from myth on windows.. how about the other way around

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kormoc:

CWO4Mann, look at line 10 in your pastebin

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CWO4Mann:

ok, wait, out

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xris:

CWO4Mann: sudo updatedb; sudo locate mysql.txt

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Setite:

i want to play the videos i have archived on my windows box.. on mythtv..

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kormoc:

Setite, mythvideo is the plugin you seek

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xris:

CWO4Mann: that'll take awhile to run, but will list all of the mysql.txt files on your drive.

[04:45:01]

Setite:

well i installed all plugins

[04:45:06]

Setite:

so i think i have that

[04:45:12]

Setite:

how do i know

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kormoc:

Setite, so read the docs on how to set it up

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CWO4Mann:

ok i see that there is a permission problem but that is what i knew all along

[04:45:28]

Setite:

helpful

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kormoc:

Setite, docs tend to be, hence why they exist...

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CWO4Mann:

i'll do the locate on the mysql files now

[04:45:43]

CWO4Mann:

wait, out

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xris:

CWO4Mann: if there are more than one, delete all but the one with the correct info.

[04:46:26]

xris:

beyond that, you'll want to rerun the: GRANT ALL ON mythconverg.* TO mythtv@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'mythtv';

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CWO4Mann:

rgr

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CWO4Mann:

tehe GRANT, etc is part of the mysql command set, right?

[04:47:36]

CWO4Mann:

/usr/share/mythtv/mysql.txt.dist

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CWO4Mann:

/usr/share/mythtv/mysql.txt

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CWO4Mann:

/home/dave/.mythtv/mysql.txt

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CWO4Mann:

/etc/mythtv/mysql.txt~

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CWO4Mann:

/etc/mythtv/mysql.txt

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xris:

yeah, you need to be in the mysql client program

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CWO4Mann:

oh crap i did it again!

[04:47:58]

CWO4Mann:

please don't kick me off ... here, i;ll go outside and eat some worms

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xris:

CWO4Mann: delete everything except /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt

[04:48:07]

xris:

and edit that one to have the correct info

[04:48:14]

CWO4Mann:

oh, except all the worms at Fort Huachuca are dead of dehydration by now

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CWO4Mann:

ok wilco

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CWO4Mann:

let's see that command is rm *.* right?

[04:49:04]

kormoc:

be careful or you'll be told to sudo rm -rf / ...

[04:49:15]

** Hoxzer searches trough mythweb hoping to find out where does mythweb(mobile) get those words (mythweb/languages/czech.php doesn't exist) **

[04:49:34]

kormoc:

Hoxzer, did you try going to the settings page and setting the language?

[04:49:59]

xris:

Hoxzer: if you're stuck in czech, something's wrong with your mobile browser

[04:50:21]

xris:

Hoxzer: but it's probably in init.php or translate.php

[04:50:24]

Hoxzer:

xris: it reports to be finnish :O

[04:50:51]

Hoxzer:

kormoc: does mythweb mobile have it (can't read czech heh)

[04:50:59]

xris:

Hoxzer: odd. there's definitely a finish translation file. and czech, too

[04:51:02]

kormoc:

I thought so, but perhaps not

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** xris goes afk for awhile. **

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Hoxzer:

xris: I copied finnish.php to czech.php but seems like it still finds those words somewhere...

[04:53:09]

CWO4Mann:

<kormoc> be careful or you'll be told to sudo rm -rf / ... OK, now what do I do after I did that? ... hummmm system seems slow

[04:53:33]

CWO4Mann:

:-)

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CWO4Mann:

brb after I try mythtv again

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kormoc:

why not try strings /dev/random | xargs touch

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xris:

Hoxzer: thing is.. those files shouldn't be all lowercase

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xris:

kormoc: that's mean.

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** kormoc laughs **

[04:55:35]

kormoc:

yeah, it is, but I am counting on him not actually running it

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ShockValue:

anyone know if a built in intel graphics chipset (g3000 i think?) would work for HD mythfrontend?

[04:56:29]

xris:

ShockValue: probably not very well

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CWO4Mann:

no thank you ... btw I build little embedded linux gadgets for the army so i know the command set pretty well but i learn something everyday. \

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CWO4Mann:

ben working with unix since about 1975

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CWO4Mann:

anyway, i see the same problem

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CWO4Mann:

Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES)

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ShockValue:

yeah, its a GMA3000 , or Intel Q965

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xris:

CWO4Mann: then you need to rerun the grant

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CWO4Mann:

ok, will try that .. brb

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ShockValue:

but its a strong proc.. duo e4400

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Speedy2:

ShockValue: Supposedly the G3000 is pretty decent.

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Speedy2:

ShockValue: I have heard of another myth user who uses it with HD

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CWO4Mann:

something like this> ?? UPDATE user SET Password=PASSWORD('mythtv') WHERE user='mythtv';

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xris:

CWO4Mann: or the GRANT ALL... that I gave you before.

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xris:

which is a bit cleaner, and doesn't require telling the db to flush privs.

[05:00:09]

CWO4Mann:

ok wilco brb

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kormoc:

update user doesn't help if the user's host restriction is wrong

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Hoxzer:

xris: they aren't is just typoed in irc

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CWO4Mann:

OMG they are playing Amy Winehouse now ...

[05:01:52]

xris:

kormoc: also a good point

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xris:

afk for real...

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CWO4Mann:

mysql> GRANT ALL ON mythconverg.* TO mythtv@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'mythtv';

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CWO4Mann:

Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.00 sec)

[05:02:18]

CWO4Mann:

Amy is singing "You know I'm no good ..."

[05:02:33]

CWO4Mann:

NE way, let's see what that grant does

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kormoc:

restart mysql just for good luck

[05:04:22]

CWO4Mann:

Aiyeee!!!! by the singed hairs of Alladin's beard! Now look at this: http://www.pastebin.ca/630418

[05:04:41]

Hoxzer:

geez ... it is taking long to grep -R Výpisy * in mythweb dir

[05:04:49]

CWO4Mann:

hijo de puta .. I need more beer this is frustrating me

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kormoc:

CWO4Mann, try starting the backend, and I hope you've already run mythtv-setup and configured it all

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CWO4Mann:

yep I did, will restart the backend now

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CWO4Mann:

Restarting MythTV server: mythbackend No /usr/bin/mythbackend found running; none killed ... ok, let me restart mysql also which I forgot

[05:07:41]

cesman:

that message is fine

[05:08:00]

cesman:

simply means it wasn't running for it to kill it then start it back up

[05:08:31]

soweto76:

I have 7 recordings (2.2G each) listed in system status/auto expire and du -sh on the recordings directory shows 16G. However, machine status shows 26G used. There seems to be too many mpg.png files — no corresponding .mpg file. Seems like the database is reporting about 10G more than is being used.

[05:09:26]

kormoc:

soweto76, how were they deleted?

[05:10:15]

soweto76:

kormoc, deleted after watching or on the watch recordings list

[05:10:27]

kormoc:

or on?

[05:11:13]

kormoc:

if they were deleted outside of myth, that would explain it, other wise, I donno

[05:11:36]

soweto76:

kormoc, From the frontend "Watch Recordings" screen.

[05:11:47]

CWO4Mann:

Madre de Dios! It just ran and I scanned and got all my cable channels plus the neighbors home video camera in their bedroom .. awesome! Now to find out if I can actually watch tv with sound

[05:11:47]

kormoc:

gotcha... yeah, I donno

[05:11:53]

CWO4Mann:

you guys are awesome

[05:12:05]

CWO4Mann:

brb will report on tv reception

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CWO4Mann:

wait out

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Hoxzer:

oh noes.... guys

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soweto76:

kormoc, Thanks. I will ask again later, I guess.

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CWO4Mann:

ok, back again

[05:17:05]

CWO4Mann:

here is a link http://www.pastebin.ca/630423

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CWO4Mann:

looks like the myth is up and running but can't find the database

[05:17:45]

CWO4Mann:

correction: can't find the socket

[05:18:08]

kormoc:

lirc socket, you don't have lirc running, and it's only needed for remotes

[05:18:19]

CWO4Mann:

firewall maybe? I've got the firwall dialog sitting here in front of me and do not see any blocks for myth or it's ports

[05:18:45]

CWO4Mann:

how did lirc get in there> aha maybe I enabled it in the setup?

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kormoc:

it's there by default

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kormoc:

just ignore the error

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CWO4Mann:

but the error stops the process

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kormoc:

no it doesn't

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CWO4Mann:

ok, tell me where to find my tv stations then? Look at the last line of the post I just put up

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kormoc:

line 19 is something you did, not myth erroring out or the like

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CWO4Mann:

ok, i'm checking wait

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CWO4Mann:

no, sri but line 19 came through immediately after line 18 with no carbon based life form intervention

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kormoc:

it's not something myth does

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** kormoc shrugs **

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CWO4Mann:

ok, but then if myth is not enabling the shut down what is? humm i have to think on this

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CWO4Mann:

i need more taco chips and beer

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CWO4Mann:

at least we got the thing loaded and channels in the db

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CWO4Mann:

brb

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kormoc:

typically people in the us just use zap2it and don't scan for channels, as is covered in the documentation

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CWO4Mann:

OK people, listen up .... beers on me at the Sorry Gulch Saloon in Sierra Vista, AZ next Friday at 9pm

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CWO4Mann:

the picture is fine. Now to sort out the sound

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kormoc:

that largely depends on your capture card

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CWO4Mann:

Got a good picture. I'm going to work on the sound issue tomorrow. I have to be up at 0430 tomorrow morning to do aarmy stuff / I truly apprecaite your help, guidance and expertise.

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CWO4Mann:

good night, sleep tight and don't let the bedbugs bite ....

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soweto76:

I have 7 recordings (2.2G each) listed in System Status/Auto Expire and du -sh on the recordings directory shows 16G.

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kormoc:

soweto76, might just want to try mailing the -users mailing list

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soweto76:

kormoc, not enough traffic here, you think?

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kormoc:

not in just a few hours, nope

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soweto76:

sorry, thanks

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k-man:

hi guys

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k-man:

when setting up channels, using the channel scan feature

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k-man:

does mythtv automaticaly assign the xmltvids?

[06:08:25]

k-man:

or does one have to do it manualy?

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xris:

k-man: if you have access to xmltv info, you shouldn't need to do a channel scan

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Speedy2:

xris: Any obvious reason why clicking on stats in mythweb returns me a 404 not found?

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xris:

Speedy2: no obvious reason

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k-man:

xris, where would I have access to xmltv from? tv_grab_au? or some similar program?

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xris:

k-man: you asked about xmltvid.. if you want/need that info, xmltv should be available somewhere.

[06:14:22]

xris:

if it's not, you don't need them

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Speedy2:

xris: Oddly, everything else works :/

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xris:

Speedy2: missing files?

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xris:

afk

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Speedy2:

xris: I checked in the mythweb folder and I see stats under modules, everything looks to be there.

[06:17:53]

Speedy2:

xris: Does stats try to read the backend log?

[06:17:53]

xris:

what url is it going for?

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xris:

I don't think so

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xris:

you'd have to ask kormoc, he wrote it.

[06:18:12]

xris:

I think it just goes off of the oldrecorded table

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kormoc:

purely oldrecorded

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Speedy2:

xris: http://pvr:8080/status

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kormoc:

status != stats

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Speedy2:

sorry

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Speedy2:

http://pvr:8080/stats

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Speedy2:

status comes up fine.

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kormoc:

check your apache logs and see what they say?

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Speedy2:

I'm using lighttpd , I'll look at the logs.

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Speedy2:

hrm

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Speedy2:

not very informative

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Speedy2:

"GET /stats HTTP/1.1" 404 345 "http://pvr:8080/" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20070309 Firefox/2.0.0.3"

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kormoc:

it's not doing anything special, so I'm at a loss on why it wouldn't work but others do

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Speedy2:

I don't know if it's related, but I don't see "Video" "Music" or "Weather" on the main menu.

[06:25:26]

Speedy2:

I don't think I built plugins with weather, but music and video weren't disabled.

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kormoc:

they're required to be active on the web box to show up

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Speedy2:

active in what way/

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kormoc:

mythfrontend would need to be run and setup them

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Speedy2:

Hrm, OK.

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k-man:

xris, so typicaly, if you have something generating xmltvids for you, mythtv can import the channel data from that somehow?

[06:32:36]

xris:

k-man: xmltvids come from xmltv, nowhere else

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hadees:

I am setting up a xbox frontend and I know that it can't play HDTV but my backend supports it. Is there some way I can set it up so that my xbox frontend doesn't even show me the HDTV shows that the backend recorded?

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k-man:

xris, sorry, i'm just not getting the bigger picture. in a best case scenario, when setting up mythtv with dvb-t cards, how does one scan for channels and get them into mythtv, and get the xmltvid's in myth to match what tv_grab_au gets?

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xris:

k-man: gotcha, I understand a bit more now... honestly, I haven't messed with that kind of thing in awhile... When I did it with ATSC stuff, I'd do one scan, and make sure the channels lined up with what I got from datadirect (like xmltv, but for the US), and mythtv just connected things automatically

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k-man:

xris, afaict, here in aus, the tools we have do not link up the xmltvids from the grabber with whats in the channels table automaticaly

[06:38:29]

xris:

k-man: you're probably going to have to wait for another AU user to help out...

[06:38:31]

k-man:

xris, ever time i have done it, i have to manually add xmltvids to the channels that the scan gets

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k-man:

xris, ok

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xris:

and then I might recommend getting something into the wiki (assuming you hadn't checked there yet)

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k-man:

xris, but I'm suspecting that no one has made the glue over here to get it to "work nicelyTM" over here ;)

[06:40:23]

k-man:

xris, i have been discussing it on the mailing list for the grabber we use over here, and advice to me so far has been to 1. scan channels i mythtv-setup, 2. manually add xmltvids to channels 3. use same xmltvids when configuring grabber

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k-man:

which seems like there is one automatic step missing

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Speedy2:

Anyone else in here using lighttpd with Myth? Maybe something in my setup is jacked.

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tripppy:

how do i get my tuner working? there is no /dev/video0 device...... in ubuntu 6.10 says i have bt878 devices.

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bjweeks:

what can be done about buggy comm detection? I've got all/strict on but it skips where it shouldn't and misses some commercials (the first is the biggest problem)

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laga:

use a different flagging method?

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bjweeks:

any idea which? I haven't seen any guides.

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hatter:

my icons have disappeared after changing video cards, the backgroiund pic is still there, and the icons respond as if they are there but they cant be seen , any ideas ?

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laga:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Commflagging

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laga:

bjweeks: ^^

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bjweeks:

thanks, I swear I've checked the wiki a few times

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laga:

;)

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chairman:

I have a hauppauge dvb-t card with an ir reciver. I have the ordinary hauppauge remote but I also have harmony 525 remote I want to use instead. The thing is that I want to have more buttons. I can set up the harmony to be alot of different remotes but what is really supported by the reciver?

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ServerSag1:

Hey folks, recently (in the last week or so) I'm starting to see "IOBOUND begin cnt(2048) free(2047)" in my mythbackend.log, and I'm also noticing that my records have some chop. Any ideas? It records to a RAID5 array, so I don't think it's a bad drive...

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rhollan:

well, just tried two Myth distros on the nanoITX (with openchrom accell) and neithber was very good: KnoppMyth and imedia – the latter didn't boot after install and the former hung playing a DVD

[09:11:25]

rhollan:

any ideas?

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rhollan:

I know there's a beta for knoppMyth but don't remember the download URL

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mitchellj:

Wonder if someone cn point me in the right direction, I'm looking to try and control my new mythtv box via Remote control. But don't have any ir reciever yet, can anyone suggest the best one to get so that I can recieve remote control commands ?

[09:30:25]

ServerSag1:

mitchellj: I bought just the IR receiver off e-bay for about $15.

[09:30:51]

mitchellj:

is there any specific type that is better than others?

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mitchellj:

I have a USB IRdA somewhere, but i don't think those work do they ?

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ServerSag1:

http://www.lirc.org/faq.html

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ServerSag1:

First question is your answer.

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ServerSag1:

As for which one I use, go to ebay and do a search for lirc, the one that is $15.99 + S&H is what I have.

[09:34:07]

ServerSag1:

Works fine with my logitech harmony remote.

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mitchellj:

excellent, its the Harmony remote I have

[09:35:16]

mitchellj:

I just need to find the IRDA to match :P

[09:35:16]

mitchellj:

thanks

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ServerSag1:

mitchellj: Just tell your harmony software you have a hauppauge tv capture card, and it works just fine.

[09:37:08]

mitchellj:

ugh uk ebay doesn't have any lol damnit

[09:37:27]

mitchellj:

I think it may be just chepaer and easier for me to go and buy a Hauppauge card

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ServerSag1:

?

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ServerSag1:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Serial-IR-Receiver-for-LI . . . cmdZViewItem

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mitchellj:

(one that comes with a remote)

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ServerSag1:

mitchellj: Thought you said you had a harmony remote.

[09:38:07]

mitchellj:

yeah problem is, I'm in the UK

[09:38:44]

mitchellj:

yeah, I do, but what I mean is that I need the IR Reciever, and Ebay uk (ebay.co.uk) doesn't have any on it, the us one does :)

[09:38:45]

ServerSag1:

Buy the kit and pull out your soldering iron. Hehe.

[09:38:56]

ServerSag1:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Serial-IR-Receiver-for-LI . . . cmdZViewItem

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mitchellj:

yeah I'm just trying to find someone that will ship to the UK :P

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ServerSag1:

Ships to Europe. Send him an email, I'm sure he will ship to the UK if he ships to Europe

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mitchellj:

duh i didn't see the Europe part! lol

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hads:

They irblaster.info guy ships worldwide.

[09:43:51]

hads:

s/They/The/

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mitchellj:

ty

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mitchellj:

do you think http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PC-Windows-Media-Center . . . cmdZViewItem would work?

[10:22:23]

foo8ar:

hi all

[10:22:38]

foo8ar:

so i got my mythdora distro working last night :)

[10:23:14]

foo8ar:

howevergetting my rv370 card doesn't get a proper setup

[10:23:43]

foo8ar:

does anyone know a good x.org config for fedora 6?

[10:24:06]

foo8ar:

or should i just ditch my old card?

[10:25:23]

foo8ar:

any recommendations in terms of graphical cards?

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foo8ar:

for mythtv

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hads:

Nvidia

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foo8ar:

ok thats the brand any more specific?

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pat_:

whatever is cheap and has the outputs to match your tv input

[10:27:00]

foo8ar:

well there i thought that the RV370 could match the bill ;)

[10:27:50]

pat_:

you can use ati, sure

[10:28:06]

pat_:

but you did ask for recommendations

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foo8ar:

but i don't get the config right (or maybe the driver)

[10:28:28]

foo8ar:

it autodetects the fglrx driver but the output is real sluggish

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pat_:

there might be something in the ubuntu guides which is useful in setting up xorg

[10:36:56]

pat_:

with fglrx

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fnordpojk:

foo8ar: AFAIK fglrx does not support XVMC, so you're sort of screwed with ATI.

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foo8ar:

ok thx for info

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fnordpojk:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/AtiProprietaryDriver

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fnordpojk:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/XvMC

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foo8ar:

so if i look for an geforce card, would the GEFORCE 7300GS based work?

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foo8ar:

(on your assumptions)

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fnordpojk:

depends on what you want to use it for.

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foo8ar:

huh?

[10:50:11]

fnordpojk:

but right now with mythtv not much is offloaded to the graphics card.

[10:50:20]

fnordpojk:

so as long as you get a card with the right outputs you're fine.

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foo8ar:

well the ati card loads the driver and work somewhat

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foo8ar:

however the fps are so slow that it gives me headache

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fnordpojk:

yeah, but ATI doesnt have XvMC = no accelerated video

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foo8ar:

ok i see

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fnordpojk:

NVidia, Via Unichrome and Intel i8xx/9xx do.

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fnordpojk:

I'm using an NVidia 7600GS in my Myth box.

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hads:

A 7300GS would be fine. I use a 7600GS a mate uses a 6600 and another uses a 5600

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fnordpojk:

foo8ar: it depends on what kind of life expectancy your myth box has.

[10:52:44]

foo8ar:

hmm there is a intel chip on the motherboard i might try that

[10:53:20]

fnordpojk:

foo8ar: sooner or later the X people will get their stuff together and give us GPU accelerated HDTV playback, for example, and then it will matter what card you use.

[10:53:33]

foo8ar:

the cool thing with the 7600GS is that it has hdmi output

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hads:

Some

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fnordpojk:

but i'm guessing it'll be a while until that happens.

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foo8ar:

right now im just trying out myth to compare it with my vdr boxes

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fnordpojk:

my 7600GS has dual DVI and component.

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hads:

My ones too

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foo8ar:

ok

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foo8ar:

component is good as well

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fnordpojk:

also, remember linux is not really HDCP compliant. :)

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foo8ar:

no but i guess something would get pass the wire, or?

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fnordpojk:

i haven't used HDMI under linux, so i couldn't say. but it should in theory work just like DVI.

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fnordpojk:

since there's no DRM stack in the OS to create a protected path.

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foo8ar:

ok

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fnordpojk:

won't apply to you anyway since we don't have any protected HDTV services in sweden ;)

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foo8ar:

tack för info

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fnordpojk:

np

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pat_:

as another datapoint, I'm using nvidia 5200 & 6200 cards here without any problems

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foo8ar:

what kind of distros do you guys run as a starting point?

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pat_:

all sorts

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foo8ar:

that heöped ;)

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pat_:

many people run ubuntu

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foo8ar:

s/heöped/helped/

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pat_:

but whatever you are comfortable with is the best option

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foo8ar:

well im not that fluent with x setup

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pat_:

it is the same on all distributions essentially

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foo8ar:

otherwise i've tried most everyting in terms of distros

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pat_:

whatever you're happiest using on a day to day basis is the best one for you to use to try myth

[11:07:16]

fnordpojk:

I'm using Ubuntu, because I'm used to Debian and Ubuntu is Debian without the politics.

[11:07:27]

foo8ar:

well i found the mythdora distro which is based on fedora

[11:07:28]

fnordpojk:

Plus it's incredibly easy to setup.

[11:07:38]

foo8ar:

normally i run debian

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foo8ar:

how new is the ubuntu mythtv package?

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pat_:

I run ubuntu 6.06 LTS

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fnordpojk:

Check out Ubuntu then, they have packages for 0.20-fixes in mainline.

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foo8ar:

i rather not mess with building from schratch

[11:08:49]

fnordpojk:

I build from svn, but unless you want to tinker I wouldn't recommend it.

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pat_:

and there used to be packages available elsewhere, dunno any more I started rolling my own

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foo8ar:

well i'll removed my ati card and will try the intel chipset with mythdora.....

[11:10:23]

foo8ar:

if it works it kind of neat

[11:10:42]

foo8ar:

boot of a cd 20 minutes and then you have a STB

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foo8ar:

(if it works......)

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foo8ar:

well pöjk: could i ask you abut the xmltv part?

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fnordpojk:

foo8ar: go ahead.

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foo8ar:

how would you map the output og the grabber with the proper DVB-T channels?

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foo8ar:

i managed to set up the grabber and i can see the flow of tv schedule coming in

[11:17:29]

foo8ar:

however the program listing is totally blank

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fnordpojk:

foo8ar: are you using boxer?

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fnordpojk:

foo8ar: or just the free channels?

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foo8ar:

yeah

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foo8ar:

well both

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foo8ar:

initially just the free channels

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fnordpojk:

i can give you a dump of my database so you can see what i did with the free channels.

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foo8ar:

ok so you need to do some tweaking?

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fnordpojk:

yes.

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foo8ar:

well that would be helpful

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fnordpojk:

you need to put the xmltvid in the channel table in the database.

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foo8ar:

ok

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foo8ar:

how?

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foo8ar:

im not familiar with the table structure

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fnordpojk:

http://pastebin.ca/630653

[11:22:07]

fnordpojk:

that's my boxer channels.

[11:22:18]

fnordpojk:

they probably won't work for you out of the box.

[11:22:23]

fnordpojk:

but it'll give you an idea.

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foo8ar:

thx

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foo8ar:

i'll look into it

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fnordpojk:

really, all you do is you scan channels, then you fire up phpmyadmin and go into the channel table and insert the xmltv id's for the various channels.

[11:23:39]

fnordpojk:

so just get the xmltv id's out of my file (extra.svt.se and so on) and put them in your database.

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foo8ar:

ok

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fnordpojk:

and when that's done you run mythfilldatabase --manual and set up which channels it fetches.

[11:24:22]

fnordpojk:

(or was it the other way around? can't remember, too long ago)

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foo8ar:

ok i get it

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fnordpojk:

those are the steps anyway, i'm just a tad unsure about the order ;)

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foo8ar:

have you tried the programinfo that comes with the DVB stream?

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fnordpojk:

EIT? yeah. it's a bit crap.

[11:26:27]

fnordpojk:

with swedb i get 14 days of info.

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foo8ar:

ok

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fnordpojk:

with EIT i get, uh, the next two shows I think.

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foo8ar:

well no you get like upto 96h of info

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hads:

Depends on the provider though

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foo8ar:

but only the next few shows have good detail level

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mchou:

!seen ShockValue

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MythLogBot:

ShockValue is here and has been idle for 6 hours 29 minutes 55 seconds

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hads:

Some only provide now/next

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foo8ar:

mm

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fnordpojk:

foo8ar: okay, then it's comhem that gives me two shows and boxer gives me a bit more.

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foo8ar:

well lunchtime....

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foo8ar:

thx for help

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fnordpojk:

np

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zntneo:

Ok, i'm a bit irrated. I thought i had it so my listings were correct. They were for like a week. Now they are messed up like they used to be.

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zntneo:

Each channel in my listings is 2 channels off

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zntneo:

any idea why?

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gbee:

could everyone here who uses the TRANSPORT BUTTONS in mythmusic tell me what buttons are on their remotes? Aside from Select and Arrow buttons, are there any other keys which might be used in mythmusic? I'm working on an alternative to the transport buttons which should benefit everyone, but it requires a new binding

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Dibblah:

Well, I've seen my backend box's backplane. http://store.orbitmicro.com/ccp3731-pxagp-13s . . . 1-110281.htm

[12:51:39]

Esine:

anyone here familiar with DVB-C and CI/Conax?

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Dibblah:

Now, anyone know of a source for a good fusion power station that'll fit in the attic?

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Dibblah:

Esine: Why?

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Esine:

well, I'm setting up an htpc and I need to be able to both watch and record conax paid channels

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Dibblah:

Okay... What hardware do you currently have?

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Esine:

I think I need two tuners but can I watch and record the same conax channel at the same time?

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Esine:

or um, .. well, do I need two conax cards? can I share the conax smartcard between the two tuners?

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Dibblah:

You need one CAM per recorder.

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Esine:

I haven't bought any hardware yet but will buy soon

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Dibblah:

per tuner, rather.

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Esine:

and CAM is..?

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Dibblah:

CI <- CAM <- Card...

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Esine:

so that'd mean I need two conax cards?

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Dibblah:

Yes.

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Esine:

hm :| I wonder if they can give me two

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Dibblah:

Usually.

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Esine:

Dibblah, what tuners do you suggest? I was thinking Technotrend DVB-C 1500 PCI

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Dibblah:

Yup. As long as they have CI slots.

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Dibblah:

You'll have to buy those too :)

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Esine:

so two identical tuner cards, two CAMs and.. the two conax cards?

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Dibblah:

Card / CI slot (which is usually seperate from the card) / CAM / card.

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zntneo:

anyone have any ideas to how to fix my problem?

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Esine:

umm ok

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janneg:

Dibblah: nice, but it's probably a single pci bus and I doubt it will handle more than 6–8 PCI cards well

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chairman:

hmm

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Dibblah:

It is a single bus.

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Dibblah:

Personally, I want a PCIex16 -> 16 PCI slot bridge.

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chairman:

Esine: I'm not sure how it works. But Hauppauge is soon going to release a usb common interface

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Dibblah:

chairman: Heh. Not for Linux.

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Esine:

:\

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chairman:

Esine: maybe it is possible to share it

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chairman:

Dibblah: :(

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chairman:

Dibblah: typical

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janneg:

but more than 6 cards are a bit excessive in the light of the comming multirec support

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Dibblah:

Indeed.

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chairman:

Dibblah: is there any plans on support for linux in the future?

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chairman:

I'm glad that I have the old trusty nexus-s card

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Esine:

why would anyone want 6 tuners? :S

[13:02:29]

Esine:

so you can record 5 channels at the same time and watch one?

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chairman:

Esine: so they can record everything

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Esine:

heh

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janneg:

Dibblah: do you want 16 pci busses? if not you don't need that many PCIe lanes

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Dibblah:

PCIe x16 is common.

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chairman:

Esine: a nice way to fill up a new 750GB disk

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pat_:

I use 4

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pat_:

6 seems excessive

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janneg:

if it's a single bus PCIe x1 would be enough

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chairman:

hmm

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chairman:

how fast computer and disk do you need if you have 6 dvb cards and support for multirec

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chairman:

I think you must have a really nice raid solution

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janneg:

no, multiple disk are better

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Dibblah:

dvb isn't _that_ bandwidth hungry.

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janneg:

mythtv trunk will distribute the recordings to all discs

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pat_:

when multirec support comes in I'll probably drop to 3 tuners

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janneg:

the biggest problem regarding multiple recordings are seeks on a single disc

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Dibblah:

... And thrashing caused by DB access, on lower RAM / higher scheduling load machines.

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pat_:

I've got no problems recording 4 dvb streams to one disk at once

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pat_:

don't even notice it

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janneg:

14 recordings to two discs took 30% cpu on a amd64 at 1ghz

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chairman:

Dibblah: I'm not sure but I think I read some where that the dvb card I have could recive a stream around 45Mbps and that isn't so much but if you have 6 cards it will be some...

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Dibblah:

_bits_

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Dibblah:

And that's the entire TS.

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chairman:

yes

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Dibblah:

5.6Mbytes / sec doesn't sound quite so extreme :)

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chairman:

no, but if you have 6 cards with that

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Dibblah:

Then you need 2 PCI busses.

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Dibblah:

And to get a life and not watch so much TV ;)

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chairman:

hehe

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janneg:

35MBytes/sec that shouldn't be a problem for a modern hard disc

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chairman:

Dibblah: if you watch so much tv you don't need to record it

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Dibblah:

Depends where the disk controller is...

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chairman:

you just need alot of monitors

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janneg:

of course not on the same pci bus

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Dibblah:

(PCI bus contention can be nasty that way)

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fnordpojk:

Esine: I'm using DVB-C and Conax with multiple tuners in MythTV.

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Esine:

fnordpojk, nice! So do you have multiple conax smartcards?

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fnordpojk:

Esine: Um, I'm transitioning away from my CI/CAM solution, but I'm not allowed to discuss that here. ;P

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Esine:

and why not? :/

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fnordpojk:

I only have one card with CI/CAM, since my provider won't give me more than one card.

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Esine:

:( yeah that's what I was afraid of

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fnordpojk:

It can be solved, but we'll have to take that outside.

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AndyCap:

fnordpojk: what card do you have with CI?

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fnordpojk:

AndyCap: Terratec Cinergy 1200 DVB-C.

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fnordpojk:

People say it's not supported, but it does work. Sort of. :)

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AndyCap:

Hehe. ok.

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laga:

does not work for me ;)

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AndyCap:

might look to get something like that since the cable provider has switched CA systems

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AndyCap:

from some proprietary motorola weirdness to either conax or nds. no hard data on which one yet

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fnordpojk:

There are no NDS cams.

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fnordpojk:

So you're SOL if it's NDS.

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jarle:

How does mythtv decide which cannel gets which channel number?

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subx:

i just bought a mobo off ebuyer for 16 pound

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subx:

bargain

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spader3d:

hi all

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subx:

hi james

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spader3d:

i read a lot of my tv tuner card philips 7130

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spader3d:

but like others i still have problem stetting up the card

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spader3d:

the audio is not working on mythtv

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subx:

spader3d

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spader3d:

what can i do?

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subx:

have u installed the audio drivers

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subx:

does your audio work with something else, like mplayer?

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spader3d:

yes it does work on xawtv and mplayer with audii

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subx:

ok go to your mythtv audio setup page on the frontend

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spader3d:

i unmute and all work fine

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spader3d:

on the frontend?

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subx:

yes

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subx:

in general settings

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spader3d:

i am not at the system now

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spader3d:

but just tell me what to change or check

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subx:

first try:

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spader3d:

additional info-> i am looping to an audio card

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spader3d:

on the backend

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subx:

hm thats something else then

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subx:

for alsa use this

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subx:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/images/b/be/Mythtv_alsa.jpg

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spader3d:

ok

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subx:

if your looping to a soundcard u will need to tweak with other settings

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subx:

try using alsamixer

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spader3d:

yes i read about that

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fnordpojk:

Looping to a soundcard on the backend will not get you audio on the frontend AFAIK.

[14:26:44]

spader3d:

but it is telling me about line-in

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spader3d:

ahh ok

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jarle:

I really miss a better way to browse channels in mythtv-frontend, Is there really no way of jumping to channels starting with the letter "x" for example, or only show channels from one input??

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subx:

jarke: there is a way, but you will have to code it..

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fnordpojk:

jarle: If you press Y or C it switches cards / inputs, at least mine only shows the channels for that card / input.

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fnordpojk:

But yeah, I'd love to have jump-to.

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fnordpojk:

I want to get rid of channel numbers altogether, they are irrelevant for me.

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spader3d:

subx: so i can take out the soundcard from the backend and still get audio on the frontend?

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subx:

i havent a clue, ive never tried

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GreyFoxx:

0

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jams:

hmm 0 doesn't look like a vi command to me

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jarle:

fnordpojk: agreed

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laga:

:q!

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subx:

vi is for geeks, use nano :p

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fnordpojk:

emacs!

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subx:

once i nearly through my computer out the window when i was using vi

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jams:

you must having been typing pretty hard

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subx:

http://www.nano-editor.org/ :D

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spader3d:

another question: how to convert nuv to mpeg-1 file to view on mediamvp?

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AndyCap:

jams: what do you mean by jump to?

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AndyCap:

sorry jarle .

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spader3d:

how do i improve the channel changing?

[14:42:42]

chairman:

is there anyway to get the dvb-t recognize more ir buttons than the standard buttons on the hauppauge remote

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chairman:

I have a harmony remote but just the reciver on the dvb-t card

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GreyFoxx:

subx: vi/vim is all I use :)

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GreyFoxx:

even when forced to use windows I use either notepad or install vim for windows

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jams:

yeah gvim for windows is nice

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jarle:

Trying to watch a DVB-s channel I often get no picture and a lot of "RingBuf(myth://192.168.1.104:6543/6994_20070723163811.mpg): Waited too long for ringbuffer pause." Guess this isn't a good sign?

[14:48:52]

jams:

the OS haiku is fairly impressive\

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subx:

why should one have to RTFM just to use a text editor!!

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** subx sticks with nano **

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GreyFoxx:

subx: Because I live in unix machines all day. And vi is the common editor on all of them

[14:55:33]

GreyFoxx:

No need to install anything special

[14:55:36]

GreyFoxx:

no need for a netconnection

[14:55:52]

GreyFoxx:

I can sit in front of a unix box from the mid 80's , and vi is there

[14:56:18]

GreyFoxx:

and vim gives me all the ctags integration and colour syntax highlighting goodness I want

[14:56:26]

GreyFoxx:

but to each their own :)

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jams:

heh color syntax on a unix box from the 80's

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armbar:

anyone know if the has an ir? I want to setup lirc with a spare Hauppauge. http://www.epox.com.tw/eng/products_content.php?ps=315

[14:57:47]

GreyFoxx:

well, not there since vim wasn't around then ;)

[14:58:19]

** GreyFoxx cries over having lost his usb to 2.5mm data jack cable **

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GreyFoxx:

my watch needs a recharge

[14:58:51]

jams:

it's a box somewhere

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jams:

you will find it about a year from now

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GreyFoxx:

heh

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GreyFoxx:

that or my kid/cats hid it on me

[15:00:01]

GreyFoxx:

I'm gonna cut up some old headphones and usb cables and make one

[15:00:05]

GreyFoxx:

It's just 4 wires

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GreyFoxx:

Just annoying :)

[15:01:01]

jams:

so what other special things does this watch do

[15:01:19]

GreyFoxx:

photo gallery, mp3 player, 2G usb harddrive, and mp4 video player

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GreyFoxx:

http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/watches/954e/

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fryfrog:

is it... big? :p

[15:01:54]

GreyFoxx:

not big enough for me to notice over my previous watches

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fryfrog:

holey jesus

[15:02:20]

fryfrog:

its enormous, but spelled right!

[15:02:53]

fryfrog:

but at least now you can have pr0n on your wrist

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fryfrog:

man, talk about useful

[15:03:00]

GreyFoxx:

I've walways had large watches, diving watches and the like

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GreyFoxx:

this is no bigger

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fryfrog:

ah

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fryfrog:

i haven't worn a watch in years

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GreyFoxx:

And now when the wife is in the store shopping I can sit back and watch something

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GreyFoxx:

plus it's great for going to the gym

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GreyFoxx:

no extra mp3 player to carry around

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laga:

nice watch

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subx:

imagine u lived here:

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subx:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_u . . . 45/img/1.jpg

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subx:

i wonder if mythfront end will work on one of these:

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subx:

http://laptop.org/laptop/

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dr_willis:

the OLPC is a bit low end.

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dr_willis:

I doubt if it would have the power to be a MythFrontend

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JMartinC:

Hi guys, I have a question, I have a PVR-USB2 wich have Hardware MPG2 Codec, I'm supposed to be able to watch TV with Minimun CPU load, but it's consuming 50% off my CPU, when I pause the TV the CPU goes down to 2%, so I Asume that the Hardware Encoder is working fine since MythTV keep recording in background at 2% CPU, my question is about that 50% CPU when I'm Watching TV, why is that? what's the TV doing? Decoding?

[15:44:52]

tank-man:

what cpu is it?

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tank-man:

yes it is decoding the mpeg2 file

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JMartinC:

it's an AMD 2800+,

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tank-man:

i dont have any suggestions

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JMartinC:

oh!, well it does work good, I was just wondering, 'couse the main reason to buy a Hardware Encodec card was to low CPU Usage.. ;-)

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JMartinC:

but it's fine, I'm not complaning, just wanted to know what was happening,, It's my first time with MythTV and I got to tell you, it's more than I was expected,,

[15:48:20]

JMartinC:

another thing, I read somewhere that the average size for an hour of LiveTV Recording was 1GB, mine is taking 2.8Gb/hour,

[15:49:30]

JMartinC:

I check the file description and it gives me MPEG sequence, v2, program multiplex, that's MPG2 I think, are this values OK?

[15:49:44]

fryfrog:

turn the bitrate down

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JMartinC:

it's recording at 480x480, (that's what mplayer said)

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tank-man:

you can change the recording profile

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fryfrog:

JMartinC: and *playback* will use cpu

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JMartinC:

well Bitrate is at 8000.0 kbps

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tank-man:

the settings are usualy of personal preference

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fryfrog:

it is *recording* that doesn't use any

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fryfrog:

I think 2200 is a decent rate, with the "max" set to uh... 3000 ish?

[15:51:06]

kash:

hermione dies!

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JMartinC:

whare I change Bitrate, on driver load? or MythTV Interface?

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fryfrog:

i hated setting the bitrate though, never could figure out good settings

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fryfrog:

mythtv's interface

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JMartinC:

great!, thx guys/.

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fryfrog:

the "default" recording profile, i think

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kash:

and harry and ginny marry and have kids. three of them. named albus, james and sirius

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JMartinC:

kash, That's Harry Potter?? Last Book?

[15:52:07]

JMartinC:

kash, who dies?

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kash:

yes

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kash:

hermione, ron, dumbledore, ron's mother, and his twin brothers

[15:52:41]

kash:

fred and georde

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kash:

george*

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fryfrog:

you asshole

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fryfrog:

if that is true, i'm going to come kill you

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kash:

k

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kash:

it's true.

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kash:

i bought the book and read it all yesterday

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kash:

and now, you can't unread it.

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fryfrog:

i /clear and already forgot it :p

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kash:

[10:52] <JMartinC> kash, who dies?

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kash:

[10:52] <kash> yes

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kash:

[10:52] <kash> hermione, ron, dumbledore, ron's mother, and his twin brothers

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jams:

haha

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opello:

that would have been a better ending :)

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opello:

but killing dumbledore again would have to involve corpse explosion

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Dagmar:

fryfrog: Don't worry. He's full of crap

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fryfrog:

whew!

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fryfrog:

the wife got it on saturday and read it through

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fryfrog:

it'll take me a few days to do it :)

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Dagmar:

It took me about 16 hours

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Dagmar:

I kept getting interrupted

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fryfrog:

I think it took her about 8, maybe 9?

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fryfrog:

i'm a pretty fast reader, but she has me *way* beat

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fryfrog:

plus i don't like jsut reading for 8 or 10 hours in a row

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fryfrog:

maybe 2–4

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armbar:

how can I tell if this pc has a ir receiver? http://www.epox.com.tw/eng/products_content.php?ps=315

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Dagmar:

It doesn't matter

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Dagmar:

IR ports on motherboards are seldom, if ever, of a type LIRC can use.

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Dagmar:

Just because it's IR doesn't mean it's suitable for use by LIRC.

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Dagmar:

The issue is somewhat similar to the fact that you can plug a phone line into your ethernet port, but you still can't use it as a modem

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facecoos:

nice analogy :D

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armbar:

:)

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fnordpojk:

I thought it was a pretty good analogy.

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juski:

hey hey

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alieas:

Does anyone know why the "OFF" aspect-ratio would show up "vertically squished"? "4:3" mode seems almost correct, but a little vertically stretched. I didn't have this prob on my CRT using the same setup

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fnordpojk:

Off means no aspect ratio correction, so that would mean that either the transmission or your display has an incorrect AR.

[17:37:40]

juski:

the aspect ratio myth thinks you have is bound by the display resolution, don't forget

[17:38:00]

juski:

and, no doubt the horizontal & vertical DPI

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jarle:

Is it possible to check if the cannel mythtv is at is a FTA channel or an encrypted channel?

[17:38:21]

juski:

jarle: don't think so.

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jarle:

juski: Having a hard time figuring out if channels mythtv won't display are scrambled or if there is some other problem...

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juski:

dvb channels? try kaffeine

[17:40:14]

jarle:

juski: any chance youre themes are available as a ubuntu/deb package?

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juski:

though normally if you specify mythtv-setup to ignore encrippled channels, it obeys

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juski:

jarle: no idea

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juski:

they get updated too often in general to be worth bothering with that anyway :-P

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alieas:

juski: the gui and everything displays correctly... possibly the "DisplaySize" in xorg.conf or something?

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alieas:

juski: running 1280x720 DVI->HDMI

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jarle:

juski: oki, I haven't jumped on the svn train yet, I've just setup a test system to figure out if mythtv is the way I wanna go or not...

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juski:

alieas: you should try a test file to see what the aspect of the output really is.. I find Digital Video Essentials very useful

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juski:

jarle: my themes have always been available from my own website.

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juski:

IMHO it's no great hardship to download one & unpack it yourself.

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jarle:

juski: yeah, I've seen it there..

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juski:

infact the next theme won't even be redistributable

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jarle:

juski: ??

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juski:

yeah. the licence I plan to release it under will mean you can only get it from my site

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alieas:

I think it might be the DPI you were talking about

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Dagmar:

juski: Good idea

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juski:

then at least everybody will be singing from the same hymnsheet. Lord knows how old any versions gubnututu's packaged ones are (or not)

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juski:

and if folks are too lazy/stupid to be able to unpack a tarball, their loss completely

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alieas:

"DPI set to (16, 12); computed from "UseEdidDpi" X config" -from Xorg.log

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Dagmar:

Holy crap that's wrong

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alieas:

Dagmar: the DPI ?

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Dagmar:

Unless you've got a 20 foot screen, you need to set DisplaySize

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alieas:

do the nVidia drivers still use DisplaySize ?

[17:49:16]

alieas:

heh, I'm happy its wrong :) At least I can try to fix now

[17:49:28]

Dagmar:

X uses DisplaySize

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alieas:

Everything shows up great except the video playback..

[17:50:03]

jarle:

The extra plugins needs to be setup in mythtv-setup before you can start using them, just installing them on the backend is not enough I gather?

[17:50:18]

juski:

jarle: plugins run on the frontend

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Dagmar:

Since none of the plugins are really run on the backend? No.

[17:50:29]

juski:

plugins are configured on the frontend

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juski:

no plugin relies on the backend, since mythweb isn't really a plugin

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alieas:

For 1280x720 at 100dpi (16:9)

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alieas:

# DisplaySize 325 182

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alieas:

Is that what I need?

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juski:

alieas: the actual numbers themselves don't matter – it's just the ratio of them which is important IMHO

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alieas:

juski: thanks I'll play with it tonight

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Dagmar:

Well, they matter if you don't want the theme to look screwey

[17:51:58]

Dagmar:

Pick *accurate* values if you can

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alieas:

but that is most likely my problem tho ?

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juski:

that's been fixed :)

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juski:

alieas: yes

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alieas:

ok thanks much

[17:52:32]

Dagmar:

Surely your display is biiger than 20cm high

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juski:

16:12 is a 4:3 ratio anyway, not 16:9

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alieas:

yes, Toshiba 32HL16 32Inch LCD

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Dagmar:

alieas: So break out a ruler

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juski:

maybe has a native res of something daft like 1024x768

[17:53:29]

jarle:

juski: so mythweb should be installed on the backend, and the rest of the "extras" on the frontend, correct?

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laga:

hey juski

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alieas:

its supposed to be 1366x768 or 1360x768/Nvidia, but I couldn't get a modeline to work with the PC Input, so I had to go DVI to HDMI

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juski:

jarle: in general yes, but mythweb can be installed on any machine which is allowed to connect to the mysql database & the backend

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juski:

hey laga

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juski:

I worked out a lot of aggression in GTA VC :)

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jarle:

juski: but apache needs to be running on the same machine as mythweb is installed I guess?

[17:55:39]

jarle:

(What does mythweb actually do? in detail?)

[17:55:43]

juski:

jarle: yeah

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alieas:

jarle: mythweb is awesome

[17:55:52]

juski:

what does google actually do? hmmm

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fryfrog:

mythweb is a set of php scripts that allow you to control and view certain aspects of myth

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juski:

mythweb lets you do just about everything mythfrontend lets you do

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juski:

in 0.21 you'll be able to watch recordings in it too

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jarle:

juski: mythweb is php?

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juski:

jarle: yes

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fryfrog:

mythweb's php files need to be on a web server, and it needs to be able to access the mythconverg db

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fryfrog:

yar, php like phpbb2/gallery/etc are php

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juski:

just RTFM on mythweb & let us save our breath

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jarle:

juski: :)

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juski:

http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Mythweb

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zntneo:

Does anyone know why , after fixing my listings, they are messed up again?

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zntneo:

like the listings are for incorrect channels

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juski:

zntneo: depends how you 'fixed' em last time I'd have thought

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zntneo:

i fixed them by removing the channels from the backend setup. Then readding them from the listings source instad of by scanning channels

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zntneo:

if that makes sense

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laga:

juski: i think my PS2 will get some attention tonight, too...

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jarle:

Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/includes/objects/Database_Query_mysql.php on line 114

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jarle:

too many channels? :)

[18:01:16]

zntneo:

no, like 73 max

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zntneo:

the weird thing is they are off by 2

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zntneo:

so like channel 6 should be the listning for 8 i believe

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foo8ar_:

pöjk: i'll continuing harassing you?

[18:05:30]

foo8ar_:

what to do when the channelscan only finds one mux?

[18:05:42]

zntneo:

anyone else?

[18:05:44]

foo8ar_:

i've tried to manually enter the freq

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foo8ar_:

but with no luck

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foo8ar_:

so i have one mux full that works ok

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foo8ar_:

but missing the other 5

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Noble:

is there any way to transcode live tv recordings to h.264 video?

[18:08:21]

Dagmar:

Sure.

[18:08:31]

Dagmar:

Buy a cluster of about four machines with 2Ghz or better CPUs

[18:09:05]

Noble:

you're not funny

[18:09:13]

Dagmar:

You're asking the implausible.

[18:09:14]

cyrexion:

yeah.... well, it's either that or have 5 min of captured video dump 600 mb of data to your drive, like my mythbox does

[18:09:27]

Noble:

oh, implausible

[18:09:44]

Dagmar:

Yes, as in x264 encoding is probably the least zippy thing you could be doing.

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fryfrog:

why couldn't you transcode at nice 19 or so?

[18:10:05]

fryfrog:

just let it go in the background

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Noble:

dagmar, do you have anything *valuable* to add?

[18:10:15]

Dagmar:

Noble: Yes. Buy more disk space.

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fryfrog:

course, you'd not be able to *play* it with mythtv afterwards

[18:10:25]

fryfrog:

except in mythvideo

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Noble:

cause right now you're just being a useless smart ass

[18:10:40]

fryfrog:

but in theory, you'd be technically able using userjobs

[18:10:52]

Dagmar:

If you don't like the answers, ask fewer silly questions

[18:10:57]

fryfrog:

but i'd go with Dagmar's suggestion of adding more drive space, disks are cheap

[18:11:24]

Noble:

buy more disk space is not a useful answer to my question, is it possible to configure mythtv to transcode to h.264

[18:11:35]

Dagmar:

Yeah, but not for LiveTV.

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Noble:

I'm not asking about how long it would take, i'm not asking you to tell me to get more disk space

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Noble:

live tv recordings.

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fryfrog:

14:10 < fryfrog> but in theory, you'd be technically able using userjobs

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Dagmar:

Myth does not transcode live recordings

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fryfrog:

oh, right no you'll not do that with livetv

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fryfrog:

but "recordings" can be assigned user jobs

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fryfrog:

so if you come up with a linux command to transfer mpeg2 -> h.264, you can do it

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Noble:

i'll look into user jobs more... does the internal player have any support for h.264 playback?

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Dagmar:

Good luck doing that in anything approaching realtime

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fryfrog:

no

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Noble:

DAGMAR, you're an idiot, i'm not going for realtime

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Dagmar:

I know you are but what am I?

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fryfrog:

you'll have to find some way of getting them into mythvideo and *out* of myth's recordings db

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fryfrog:

14:11 < Noble> live tv recordings.

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fryfrog:

you specifically said "live tv recordings"

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fryfrog:

In myth, "live tv" *is* a recording

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Dagmar:

Myth more or less assumes that if you're using a framegrabber card it has to encode the recording. If you're getting an already digitally encoded stream, it does not.

[18:14:32]

Dagmar:

It just stores the stream to disk

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Noble:

yes yes, but i intended "transcoding" to imply that the recording has finished

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Noble:

sorry if I was not more clear

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Dagmar:

Plus, x264 playback is probably the slowest of the lot

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fryfrog:

Noble: I figured, but you did say the opposite.

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Dagmar:

XvMC acceleration does not aid x264

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Noble:

how then would I say it? recordings from live tv?... or perhaps just to say recordings?

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fryfrog:

You might be better off trying to go straigt to xvid or divx

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fryfrog:

"transcode recordings" i think would be accurate

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Dagmar:

You would say "how do I create a patch for MythTV to make it transcode liveTV recordings"

[18:16:22]

Dagmar:

Because it doesn't.

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fryfrog:

Dagmar: he doesn't want to do anything with livetv

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Noble:

dagman, you are only telling me things i already know... xvmc does not accelerate h.264... h.264 is the most processor intensive in both encoding and decoding

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fryfrog:

i assume you are trying to do HD, right?

[18:16:54]

Noble:

dagmar, you need to focus on what i'm saying, not what you think i'm saying

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Dagmar:

fryfrog: Pardon me for reading the actual question asked

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Noble:

no, sd

[18:17:06]

Dagmar:

I must not have linked this IRC client to libfatblackpsychiclady.so

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bill2or3:

Anyone know where I can find example values for a 'Tuned' channel scan? I can import a channels.conf, but it doesn't match the zap2 data.

[18:17:42]

Noble:

dagmar, you haven't said anything useful in this conversation with me at all... why not just drop out and "help" someone else

[18:17:50]

fryfrog:

wait wait

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Noble:

wait for the next person in this channel and assist them

[18:18:02]

fryfrog:

Noble: you want to transcode *SD* into h.264?

[18:18:14]

Noble:

yeah

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fryfrog:

SD like "Standard Definition" that is ~1G/hr?

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Noble:

yeah

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fryfrog:

use myth's built in ability to transcode to xvid/divx, it will make you much happier

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fryfrog:

that way it'll still show up in your "recordings" list

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Noble:

well i already do automatic transcoding of all recordings into mpeg4

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fryfrog:

ah

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Dagmar:

Then change one of the existing transcoding profiles to use x264, if it supports that

[18:19:51]

fryfrog:

how much more space savings do you expect from h.264 over xvid/divx on *SD* content?

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Noble:

but if mythtv had built in support for h.264, i could get better quality for the same size, or same quality for less size, at the expense of cpu time, which i see mto have an overabundance of anyway

[18:20:02]

Dagmar:

...which I don't think it does but hey, who's worrying about whether or not something is possible

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Noble:

fry, some, which is better than none

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fryfrog:

I was under the impression the h264 was really oriented toward HD?

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fryfrog:

Also, what sort of tuner card do you use and what space savings do you see from MPEG2->MPEG4?

[18:20:47]

Noble:

it doesn't care, it actually does extremely well for low bandwidth videos as well

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fryfrog:

(i'm curious)

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Noble:

i use a hauppauge pvr usb

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fryfrog:

ah

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Noble:

external... works really nice

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fryfrog:

well, i'd say h.264 transcoding is *do-able*, but you won't end up with a very usable myth system

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fryfrog:

the internal player doesn't do h.264, afaik so you'd have to get mplayer working and use "mythvideo"

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fryfrog:

which means that your recordings are not going to be as nicely organized

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Noble:

yeah, thats basically what i was asking

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fryfrog:

also, your "userjob" is going to have to deal with removing it from the recordings db and putting it into the videos dir

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fryfrog:

do you archive everything you record? saving it even after you watch it?

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fryfrog:

i'm trying to understand why you'd want to go so far to get some space savings

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Noble:

well i've got limited storage, if switching over to h.264 was free, i didn't see a reason not to persue it

[18:26:03]

Noble:

ultimately, i'm going to switch my mythbackend over to raid, but until then, i was just looking for a stopgap solution to increase the utility of my existing storage

[18:26:22]

Noble:

i record alot of things regularly

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bill2or3:

anyone? dvb-s channel scanning paramaters?

[18:26:29]

foo8ar_:

is it possible to initiate a slowscan when trying to find channels?

[18:26:32]

Noble:

like bbc world news every morning, austin city limits

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foo8ar_:

the scannerthread really rushes through the channels

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alieas:

the internal player does h.264

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Noble:

really?

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Dagmar:

Ah, so that would explain why you ignored all the reasons you were just given as to why x264 isnt' actually going to work and instead called people names.

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Noble:

dagmar, you're an irc troll... you don't intend to help people, you just try to make people feel like their questinos are stupid

[18:29:25]

Noble:

i ask if something is possible, and you tell me why i shouldn't even bother, and never actually address if it is possible

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fryfrog:

alieas: does it? in svn -fixes or svn head?

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Noble:

and don't bother to consider maybe we weren't understanding each other

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Noble:

you never intended to be helpful

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alieas:

fryfrog: I'm not sure. I used the multi threaded diff patch for SVN-13888, but... it works with a standard build too

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foo8ar_:

ok noble we get you point

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alieas:

since using the diff patch "Internal" plays back x264 much better than mplayer

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rhollan:

tried two unichrome-aware mythj distros to no avail yesterday – KnoppMyth (DVD player crashed) and iMedia (kernel didn't boot) Anyone know anything about either?

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fryfrog:

alieas: ah, nice

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Dagmar:

Noble: Bite me. You weren't trying to listen because you didn't like the answer that what you were wanting wasn't reasonably feasible.

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fryfrog:

alieas: but, does myth have a built in "transcode" to h.264 yet?

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alieas:

fryfrong: oh transcode, prolly not

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fryfrog:

or would you still need to come up with your own simple script/command and take care of that part

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fryfrog:

in *theory* it might be as simple as transcoding it, then renaming once done

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alieas:

fryfrog: I think you would have to do that yourself... I never use transcode

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alieas:

yeah you might be able to just rename it

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alieas:

I'm sure you could hack that together tho with some patience maybe ?

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Noble:

dagmar, what i was asking about is completely feasable

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rhollan:

anyone here have experience with KnoppMyth or iMedia Myth?

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rhollan:

on Via nanoITX with CN400?

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alieas:

rhollan: I would avoid out-of-the-gox distros like that

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alieas:

rhollan: I think you'd be better off with Ubuntu Feisty and following the wiki for XvMC/UniChrome

[18:34:45]

rhollan:

alieas: so, roll my own? I had xine working fairly well, but really want a basic myth install

[18:35:24]

alieas:

rhollan: those distros never worked well for me, I ended up just learning how to use the SVN release because it always worked the best

[18:35:26]

rhollan:

alieas: what about minimyth? The only downside to it is that the kernel doesn't support ext2 fs and I want a local disk

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bb_:

hello question: I just installed gentoo with mythtv...i have a pvr 150 capture card...mythtv does not see this card, can anyone help me

[18:35:45]

rhollan:

alieas: so myth and X hacked to support unichrome?

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alieas:

rhollan: a lot of people aren't happy with XvMC

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fryfrog:

bb_: got the card working in linux yet? ivtv?

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Noble:

bb do you have /dev/video0 or /dev/video1 ?

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bb_:

fryfrog: i dont think so

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fryfrog:

do it :)

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bb_:

well I don't know what I need to install as in drivers for the pvr 150

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rhollan:

alieas: I had XvMC working OK when I rolled my own over a full FC# install, but I wanted to trim it down so I thought I'd look at XvMC CN400-aware distros but they don't seam to work at all

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fryfrog:

i said, ivtv

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fryfrog:

"emerge ivtv"

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bb_:

ahh

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bb_:

sweet

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bb_:

then what to modprobe

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bb_:

ivtv?

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fryfrog:

yar

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foo8ar_:

can I use a channels.conf from vdr as input base?

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bb_:

sweet! thanks guys :)

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alieas:

rhollan: well I'm real pleased with Ubuntu Feisty + SVN. That would be my recommendation + http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/XvMC

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fryfrog:

I use Feisty with SVN -fixes branch, works nicely

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fryfrog:

I'm to scared to try svn head again :p

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Cardoe:

fryfrog: except when -fixes gets retarded on itself.

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alieas:

Feisty supported my PVR-250's and pcHDTV card out of the box, just needed to blacklist the cx88-dvb module and then add it to /etc/modules to work properly

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Cardoe:

fryfrog: http://rafb.net/p/a3GX2L99.html

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Cardoe:

I haven't touched my setup in weeks since Chutt fixed it last time after it got retarded on itself.

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Cardoe:

now it refuses to start again

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fryfrog:

what do you mean?

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fryfrog:

mine's been going along just fine for months, i think

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Cardoe:

look at the paste

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fryfrog:

2007-07–23 13:24:24.703 MainServer: HandleRemoteEncoder(cmd GET_STATE) Unknown encoder: 3, exiting

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fryfrog:

suck :(

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Cardoe:

fryfrog: I use localhost only

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Cardoe:

1 box

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Cardoe:

I haven't USED my mythtv setup in a month

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fryfrog:

I'll be honest... after moving off of Gentoo for my mythbox(s), things have been a lot better.

[18:42:54]

fryfrog:

Not that its all Gentoo's fault or anything

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Cardoe:

I just pkg the crap from -fixes

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fryfrog:

when that error pops up, is the backend crashed? or just fails that recording?

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Cardoe:

that error that I pasted is from the logs..

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Cardoe:

the backend was magically gone..

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fryfrog:

ah

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Cardoe:

I attempted to restart it

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fryfrog:

right, sorry by "pop" I really meant "crops" :)

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Cardoe:

and that line that you pasted happens about 5 lines into the new log

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Cardoe:

and the backend stops again

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fryfrog:

suck :/

[18:44:09]

alieas:

My personal "installation guide" has been getting shorter and shorter :)

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Cardoe:

I don't see why it would do something like that.

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Cardoe:

fryfrog: like I said.

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Cardoe:

I haven't used this machine in 4 weeks

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Cardoe:

the only thing that machine does is host my asterisk

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Cardoe:

I don't see why Gentoo would affect your Myth adversely

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Cardoe:

but that's neither here or there.

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Cardoe:

the fact that MythTV thinks I have a remote encoder that it doesn't know how to handle is an issue internal to Myth

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rhollan:

alieas: is that url up to date? I had 1080i playing fine with openchrome drivers

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sphery:

Cardoe: I recommend http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/264034#264034 doing both cards and sources.

[18:50:53]

Cardoe:

sphery: right.. did that.

[18:50:57]

sphery:

Cool.

[18:51:01]

Cardoe:

a month ago

[18:51:03]

Cardoe:

with Chutt

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Cardoe:

and some config tweaks

[18:51:12]

Cardoe:

I haven't used the box in a month

[18:51:22]

Cardoe:

I went to use it just now.

[18:51:26]

Cardoe:

and it did the same thing ago.

[18:51:28]

Cardoe:

er again

[18:51:34]

Cardoe:

hence, why I'm angry

[18:51:46]

sphery:

Yeah. I don't know how a new encoder would have gotten defined, but the info on that page tells how to fix it.

[18:52:00]

Cardoe:

Yeah. I need to do "Delete All"

[18:52:01]

Cardoe:

again

[18:52:09]

fryfrog:

I think for me, my Gentoo installation was basically always changing (almost OCD with emerge --sync && emerge -uDNav world)

[18:52:25]

Cardoe:

why were you constantly emerge --sync && emerge -auDNv world?

[18:52:37]

sphery:

I'm guessing it has something to do with udev/non-permanent device naming/running mythtv-setup with different device configurations, but that's only a guess.

[18:52:39]

Cardoe:

fryfrog: I bet you were on unstable.

[18:52:46]

Cardoe:

sphery: haven't rebooted

[18:53:19]

Cardoe:

sphery: I moved a month ago and setup my Myth box the day I moved in (since it's got asterisk and my telephone on it)

[18:53:19]

sphery:

Including the remote systems?

[18:53:26]

Cardoe:

sphery: I don't have any remote systems

[18:53:28]

Cardoe:

just local host

[18:53:38]

sphery:

Oh, I remember your mentioning that...

[18:53:46]

Cardoe:

Chutt had me Delete All

[18:53:56]

fryfrog:

Cardoe: I was *mostly* on amd64, with some ~amd64 packages specified. More than I should have

[18:54:01]

sphery:

Sounds like http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-23.html#ss23.7 is a better solution...

[18:54:06]

Cardoe:

and tweaked some MythTV configs

[18:54:09]

Cardoe:

like he told me to do.

[18:54:17]

Cardoe:

fryfrog: that's your problem then

[18:54:27]

Cardoe:

sphery: I didn't move to new hardware.

[18:54:30]

sphery:

In other words, I'd bet your DB has some garbage that's causing recurring breakage.

[18:54:33]

Cardoe:

I took the same box I've had for a year..

[18:54:34]

fryfrog:

i needed some "unstable" stuff to get good working firewire :(

[18:54:44]

sphery:

Yeah, but that could also be called "Cleaning out your DB".

[18:55:13]

sphery:

That approach will get rid of /all/ the settings and all the "brokenness" in the DB and keep the important data for you.

[18:55:26]

sphery:

Of course, it does require reconfiguring. :)

[18:55:35]

sphery:

But, nothing like a good "summer" cleaning.

[18:56:34]

bb_:

hey guys in my kernel I dont have Encoders or Decoders....'Device Drivers' ---> 'Multimedia devices' ---> 'Video Capture Adapters' ---> 'Encoders and Decoders'

[18:56:40]

chairman:

is there anyway to get a dvb-t card too recognize more ir codes than the standard hauppauge remote. I have a harmony remote I want to use but I want more functions than the standard hauppauge remote

[18:57:09]

Cardoe:

bb_: what kernel?

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bb_:

2.6.19-gentoo-r5

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fryfrog:

are you trhing to get some of the needed modules for ivtv?

[19:00:36]

fryfrog:

just tick one of the bttv cards and it'll make tuner and all the modules you need

[19:01:05]

bb_:

yeah fryfrog

[19:01:21]

Dagmar:

I keep meaning to hassle the ivtv guys to either enable my wiki account or add a mention that the "automatic detection of needed modules" in the kernel does not work with ivtv

[19:01:48]

Dagmar:

...cuz anyone who doesn't select bttv (because they don't have such a card) will never get the tuner module or that other one

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Cardoe:

bb_: you need to enable v4l 1

[19:06:49]

bb_:

how do I do that

[19:06:58]

bb_:

http://rafb.net/p/A7oXUt46.html

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bb_:

thats what is happening

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Cardoe:

bb_: disable the auto choice

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rhollan:

anyone here use minimyth?

[19:07:44]

bb_:

haazaaa!

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bb_:

:)

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Cardoe:

bb_: got it?

[19:08:14]

bb_:

yup haha thats what I was missing :)

[19:08:15]

bb_:

thansk

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Cardoe:

yep

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otwin:

rhollan: i am

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rhollan:

otrwin: what do you use for your backend (i.e. myth version)

[19:09:20]

rhollan:

I get a segfault when I try to start mythtv 0.20 mythtv-setup on the backend

[19:09:33]

rhollan:

otwin: see above

[19:09:55]

otwin:

rhollan: svn r13857 but i have to downgrade

[19:10:24]

otwin:

rhollan: what does that have to do with minimyth?

[19:10:52]

rhollan:

otwin: I can't get a backend installed on an FC3 system because I can't run mythtv-setup for it

[19:11:00]

otwin:

minimyth is frontend only

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rhollan:

otwin: right! I need a backend, and can't build one.

[19:11:25]

otwin:

my backend is not epia based...

[19:11:30]

rhollan:

mine neither

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rhollan:

FC3

[19:11:48]

rhollan:

but 0.20 doesn't work for me as far as mythtv-setup goes

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otwin:

rhollan: well minimyth won't help you with your backend problem and and I don't use openchrome on my backend, so I can't help you.

[19:18:51]

foo8ar_:

any dvb-t gurus around?

[19:19:01]

foo8ar_:

or dvb in general

[19:20:57]

rhollan:

I don't use openchrome on my backend either! I'm just trying to build and install a backend from the 0.20 sources

[19:21:18]

rhollan:

I get segfaults running mythtv-setup on the backend to configure it

[19:21:37]

juski:

foo8ar_: just ask a proper question

[19:22:00]

foo8ar_:

im trying to get the channels into my setup.

[19:22:12]

foo8ar_:

the normal scan only find one of the muxes

[19:23:09]

foo8ar_:

however i can scan with scandvb and get output. is it possible to use that for a starting point?

[19:23:41]

foo8ar_:

the normal channelscan doesn't give time for channel lock before it rushes ahead

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juski:

foo8ar_: so change the signal timeout in mythtv-setup

[19:24:12]

juski:

try doubling it

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foo8ar_:

where?

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rhollan:

well i've got to go. back later. I'm trying to rebuild and reinstall a myth backend compatible with the minimyth frontend I have.

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juski:

foo8ar_: probably in 'capture cards'

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foo8ar_:

or how?

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juski:

don't make me get a screenshot

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foo8ar_:

ok so you mean within the setup program?

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juski:

I said in mythtv-setup did I not?

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foo8ar_:

i can't find a place to change the the timeout

[19:26:20]

foo8ar_:

have been looking all day

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foo8ar_:

there is one place if you first define the mux, but it didn't succeed

[19:27:26]

foo8ar_:

or if you import a channels.conf

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foo8ar_:

i'd like to import the channels.conf but i don't seem to get the proper fileformat

[19:28:56]

juski:

www.juski.co.uk/wah.png

[19:29:00]

juski:

www.juski.co.uk/wah.jpg even

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juski:

you just haven't been frickin lookin man

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juski:

all day! pfft

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foo8ar_:

well i've been trying all day

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foo8ar_:

with various things

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Cardoe:

juski: fix my box!

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foo8ar_:

but thx

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juski:

Cardoe: s'up widdit?

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foo8ar_:

i'll try that right away

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juski:

Cardoe: don't say broken.. please

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Cardoe:

juski: ok... not working ;)

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juski:

Cardoe: lol

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Cardoe:

juski: remember like a month ago Chutt had me do a delete all cause my machine thought it's hostname was different?

[19:31:53]

Cardoe:

and resetup my tuners?

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juski:

yeah vaguely

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foo8ar_:

:)

[19:32:25]

Cardoe:

And just to be safe he said hardcode my LocalHostName in mysql.txt

[19:32:36]

Cardoe:

well.... all of a sudden it thinks all my tuners are remote again!

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juski:

oh fack

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juski:

that's not good

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Cardoe:

and this time I haven't used it AT ALL

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juski:

mysql strangeness?

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Cardoe:

literally, the day I got help from him was the 1st day of my move.

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fryfrog:

you should switch to Ubuntu :)

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foo8ar_:

juski: thanx

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Cardoe:

juski: yeah I dunno.

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Cardoe:

juski: I haven't even emerge --sync'd

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Cardoe:

juski: I've been thinking.. my DB is like 3 yrs old.. might do a backup and just rebuild the DB bits I wanna keep

[19:34:16]

juski:

sounds like a plan of some sort

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juski:

you can easy re-setup the tuners & storage dirs

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Cardoe:

yeah it just made me mad.

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Cardoe:

I think trac is broken too

[19:35:02]

Cardoe:

cause I put cardoe@gentoo.org in the from... and it says anonymous...

[19:35:11]

Cardoe:

but I added a ticket to clean up the docs a bit..

[19:35:13]

Cardoe:

http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/3762

[19:36:09]

Cardoe:

basically reduces a section from "grep through your logs for this... try step 1 with the results from the grep.. if that fails.. try step 2..." to "run this 1 command"

[19:40:37]

Cardoe:

juski: make sense to you? the ticket that is.

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sphery:

Cardoe: Trac (currently installed version) is broken. But, this is how to make it work: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/269002#269002

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sphery:

Cardoe: Daniel just recently added it to the TicketHowTo

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juski:

Cardoe: looks straightforward to me. I'm not a fan of the sed stuff the wiki suggests

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sphery:

Does that work with all supported MySQL versions (3.23 and above)? If so, it's definitely better.

[19:49:44]

sphery:

But it would be nice if there's some MySQL utility that will extract stuff for you from an existing dump. Otherwise, people trying to recover a broken/deleted/whatever DB when they only have a backup file will still need something like the grep approach.

[19:52:30]

juski:

don't worry. in actuality so few users back up their DB there's not much need to bother :-P

[19:52:51]

sphery:

But, that will be changing with 0.21 (if I get my ... in gear)

[19:53:14]

juski:

you can see what's coming right away

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thoraxe:

back up your what?

[19:53:31]

juski:

"muh muh muhhhhhhhh.. something is eating like 100MB of disk space"

[19:53:44]

sphery:

Will be a backup storage group.

[19:53:55]

sphery:

Will write to the specified dir or default if not specified.

[19:53:55]

thoraxe:

it would be cool if sage had an automatic backup option

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thoraxe:

heh

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thoraxe:

not that it doesn't, i wouldn't know, i STILL haven't installed it

[19:54:16]

thoraxe:

but i finally put the computer in my office in order to install it!

[19:54:18]

juski:

be cool if WHAT had such a backup option?

[19:54:23]

thoraxe:

sorry

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sphery:

Then, when people complain about the 2 (or so) rolling backup files, I'll hack their systems and do a drop database mythconverg;

[19:54:28]

thoraxe:

brain fart, mythtv

[19:54:41]

thoraxe:

i was running sage on win previously, that's the system that i'm dismantling

[19:54:48]

thoraxe:

i wonder if i can find another socket A HSF

[19:54:56]

juski:

sphery: like EYOUDONTDESERVEMYTHTV!

[19:55:19]

sphery:

thoraxe: Yep. I've had one in my newegg shopping cart for about a week trying to decide if I really need it

[19:55:26]

thoraxe:

i really do need it

[19:55:34]

thoraxe:

cuz i have this crappy tbird 700 that is running my htpc

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sphery:

juski: exactly

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thoraxe:

and the hsf is really noisy

[19:55:54]

thoraxe:

noisier than the coolermaster centurion psu, the case fans, and the hdds combined

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jedix:

juski: that's just dumb

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thoraxe:

and there is a fan on the mobo that is dead

[19:56:05]

jedix:

juski: we all know errors need to be returned with a leading -

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thoraxe:

lol

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sphery:

thoraxe: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp . . . ame=Socket+A

[19:56:30]

thoraxe:

i shoul dprobably just go to this intel p4 board i have, but the board i'm using has optical audio out, but since myth isn't good with onboard optical anyway, there's no advantage

[19:56:42]

sphery:

be careful, though, some of them aren't actually socket A (in spite of the fact that they're in the socket A category)

[19:57:46]

thoraxe:

well, i have an athlon xp2400 i just retired

[19:57:48]

thoraxe:

so i can use that chip and hsf

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sphery:

I'm trying to figure out if I should get one. I was having random crashes and replaced my CPU HSF with an old used one and replaced the fan on my northbridge with one from a 1999 CPU HSF (same fan), and crashes stopped.

[19:58:13]

sphery:

2 months later, I'm getting crashes again.

[19:58:24]

Cardoe:

sphery: cool

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sphery:

Wondering about the quality of my replacements (especially the 1999 fan).

[19:59:13]

thoraxe:

i think it's my northbridge fan that is dead

[19:59:16]

thoraxe:

it's like some crappy cheap abit board

[19:59:20]

thoraxe:

i should probably just throw it out

[19:59:54]

thoraxe:

or swap it for the board that I have in my retired pc... i don't really need optical audio out or even 5-ch audio because I don't use my htpc for dvds just yet

[19:59:56]

sphery:

The errors I'm getting seem more likely to be due to chipset overheat. And it's an NVIDIA heater-element--I mean northbridge--so it seems likely.

[20:00:10]

thoraxe:

and the case has enough room for an sblive and i have an sblive sitting around if i really want to go 5ch

[20:00:24]

thoraxe:

anyhoo, i might actually get to install mythdora tonight on the box... wish me luck!

[20:00:44]

sphery:

The northbridge fan on my brand-new MB failed within 2 weeks of my installing the MB.

[20:00:46]

thoraxe:

time to go home!

[20:00:50]

thoraxe:

wow that sucks

[20:00:55]

** sphery longs for the days when chipsets didn't need HSF's **

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thoraxe:

hasta banana!

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fryfrog:

I've recently found a good way of "fixing" failed fans

[20:06:26]

sphery:

what's that?

[20:06:26]

Noble:

do tell

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fryfrog:

A hypodermic, some 3in1 oil and graphite powder (key slot lube?)

[20:06:57]

fryfrog:

the oil gets the graphite powder into the fan, and *eventually* dries up/goes away

[20:07:05]

fryfrog:

its the graphite powder that keeps it nice

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sphery:

cool.

[20:07:22]

fryfrog:

my video card fan was stopped, it wasn't *hard* stuck but it was difficult to spin

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fryfrog:

i got some of that oil/graphite powder in, spun it some by hand then hooked it up

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fryfrog:

going good now

[20:07:57]

fryfrog:

it is *supposed* to help with noisy wobbly fans, you probably know the noise

[20:07:59]

bill2or3:

check back in 2 weeks.

[20:08:12]

fryfrog:

i did it to my PSU fan, but i haven't leaned down to listen in the past few days

[20:08:14]

sphery:

Wonder if that fixes the "doesn't spin up" issues (which could well be because of friction, too).

[20:08:17]

fryfrog:

yeah, i will for sure :)

[20:08:26]

fryfrog:

sphery: thats what mine was, you can usually tell

[20:08:36]

fryfrog:

if you flick it and it doesn't keep spinning, its stuckish

[20:08:44]

fryfrog:

or if you put a vacuum hose right over it and it won't even spin

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sphery:

I just had a realization...

[20:10:39]

sphery:

My master backend works great--as long as I don't have to rely on it running 24/7 when I'm on the road forever.

[20:11:06]

sphery:

This system seems rock-solid stable, so perhaps I should swap the MB/CPU from this to the MBE

[20:11:40]

sphery:

And never again buy a "good" MB for a system that has to be reliable.

[20:11:50]

fryfrog:

I recently swapped my dual xeon 2.4ghz *frontend* for my 3200+ amd64 backend

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fryfrog:

haven't been happier since :)

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hadees:

anyone here use a xbox as a frontend?

[20:12:46]

sphery:

I bought the other MB specifically for its PATA and SATA support (allowing more drives), but I'm only using PATA, so ...

[20:13:13]

sphery:

I think I have a project for tomorrow.

[20:13:37]

juski:

hadees: I used to. noisy, fugly, slow thing

[20:13:46]

juski:

xbmcmythtv was ok but crashy

[20:14:01]

juski:

wouldn't wish it on mchou tbh

[20:14:02]

hadees:

juski, hehe well i got an extra one laying around and was going to use it for a frontend in my bedroom

[20:14:38]

hadees:

i was just wondering if it was possible to install linux but recover the xbox if i ever wanted to sell it later

[20:14:45]

juski:

xbmcmythtv would be my preferred route, despite it being built with haxx0r5 t00l5

[20:15:05]

juski:

linux sucks on the xbox – 32MB RAM just ain't enough

[20:15:38]

juski:

takes ages to boot, as slow as hell when it finally gets there

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juski:

XBMC boots in seconds

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juski:

anyway.. need to watch some mythtv

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hadees:

is XBMC as good as the frontend?

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fryfrog:

I'd say XBMC is better than mythfrontend + xbox

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fryfrog:

but you won't get the myth specific sutff

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fryfrog:

I use my xbox to watch xvid/divx/etc movies rather than myth, personally.

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fryfrog:

but of course it won't play HD

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fnordpojk:

juski: 64.

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fnordpojk:

fryfrog: A Linux port of XBMC is underway. It doesn't play movies yet, but I used it to play a bunch of mp3's yesterday, worked fine :)

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fnordpojk:

Time for bed now.

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fryfrog:

neat

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Caliban:

:se noai

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Caliban:

a :se ai

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just_joe_:

ping

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jarle:

fryfrog: I thought I read something about a mythtv plugin for XBMC (so you can access mythtv from within XBMC)...

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fryfrog:

i think i've read about it too, but honestly i've never used it. I just setup a samba share of my videos / recordings and then use that in XBMC

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tgm4883:

is there any known problems with mytharchive when trying to remove commercials from an HD program that was recorded over firewire?

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mycroes:

ok, you all must think I'm incredibly stupid now, but where do my recordings go after something else gets recorded?

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mycroes:

it seems that my old stuff gets removed if I record something new? :S

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mycroes:

there's just one nuv file in /var/lib/mythtv/recordings

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Hoxzer:

Not familiar with that problem but I would check the permissions of the directory

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mycroes:

well to mee it would seem that permissions are correct if it can record ;)

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mycroes:

nm

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mycroes:

I figured out what was happening in the logs...

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mycroes:

I was low on disk space

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Criggie:

Hi all – mythfrontend crashes on exit and takes out X but only on one of my frontends. Is this a known problem?

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Criggie:

this is myth 020-fixes

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jams:

Criggie- I have seen that happen when the opengl drivers are busted

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bill2or3:

does Tuned dvb-s channel scanning currently work?

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Criggie:

jams: ahhhhh thanks – wouldn't have associated that.

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immolo:

Criggie- sis based card?

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Criggie:

jams: thanks :)

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Criggie:

immolo: no – its a crappy old P3 600 compaq SFF with an on-board ATI card

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jams:

there you go...ati

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immolo:

Criggie- ah not sure then never had an issue with ati myself but the last sis based I played with crashed at alot with opengl

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Criggie:

jams: :)

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Criggie:

immolo: yeah – I wouldn't waste good urine on burning SIS gear

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immolo:

haha

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immolo:

sis isn't that bad

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immolo:

as long as your task isn't more then plugging in a monitor to view a console :P

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bill2or3:

it's best/only feature is not taking up a slot.

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immolo:

bill2or3- thats a feature? if I could I would just take it out :P

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bill2or3:

ha.

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a1fa_:

hey

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a1fa_:

i get no sound from mythweb's flash player.. what's up?

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a1fa_:

yooo

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VoodooZ_:

hi

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VoodooZ_:

I just recently installed Mythtv and although everything is fine in single machine mode when I try to connect my portable as a frontend (fresh install of same exact OS/version) I get the GANT theme screen with the icon on the right but no menus....

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VoodooZ_:

I did re-configure the backend as accordingly before of course...

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VoodooZ_:

any ideas?

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Anduin:

VoodooZ_: No menus is often a 'running with GL painter but no GL' problem, if you start the frontend with -O ThemePainter=qt does it work?

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VoodooZ_:

cool. That's what I was trying to do... I did install mesa as a way to try this theory too.. I'll try that right away...

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VoodooZ_:

odd. does exactly the same thing. In fact I did noticed that it reports using Qt on startup so... I guess I'll try opengl

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VoodooZ_:

nope -O ThemePainter=gl or opengl doesn't seem to happen...

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VoodooZ_:

Strange that everything else appears fine (ie. Icon and vertical MythTV text on the left)

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mikeones:

hello

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VoodooZ_:

even running mythsetup locally has the same problem so It's definitely not a comm issue rght?

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VoodooZ_:

wow with so many users in here I was expecting more feedback

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Wandfliese:

hi all – is possible to switch between fullscreen and window while watching tv?

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Wandfliese:

hi @ all – it is possible to switch between fullscreen and window mode while watching live TV?

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Wandfliese:

?

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djbeenie:

hello can anyone point me in the right direction to install my pvr 150?

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VoodooZ_:

It's so quiet in here I can hear people snoring from here!

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Wandfliese:

can sb. answer my question? – it is possible to switch between fullscreen and window mode while watching live TV?

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VoodooZ_:

aside from removing .myth/ folder, mythtv user account and wiping mysql Db and removing rpm packages, what else needs to be done to remove any traces of mythtv? (so I can try re-installing again.. hopefully without issues)

[22:59:34]

Wandfliese:

i had also a problem with mythtv today...

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VoodooZ_:

With my install I can't even see the darn menus!

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hads:

Wandfliese: Have some patience.

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Wandfliese:

simple wiping out the sql database and reconfigure everything solved my problem after 5 hours ^

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djbeenie:

modprobe ivtv

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djbeenie:

FATAL: Error inserting ivtv (/lib/modules/2.6.19-gentoo-r5/extra/ivtv.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)

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djbeenie:

im getting this error

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VoodooZ_:

Wandfliese: really? Good. 'cause that's what I'm trying right now... Anything else worth cleaning up??

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hads:

Wandfliese: The answer is no.

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Wandfliese:

i just droped the myth... database

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VoodooZ_:

i see. my sql is quite rusty...

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Wandfliese:

:( but thx hads – and sry that i was so impatient ^^

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Wandfliese:

drop database myth...

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Wandfliese:

;

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VoodooZ_:

Although this is on a frontend so there shouldn't be any Db right?

[23:02:30]

VoodooZ_:

Maybe I followed part of the backend steps....

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Wandfliese:

i reconfigured the backend

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VoodooZ_:

What's required to setup a front-end then? install mythtv, mythtvsetup and then mythfront ??

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Wandfliese:

clear the database then run mythtv-setup

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Wandfliese:

but im also a noob but this solved my problems :)

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VoodooZ_:

that's the problem... for me everything works on the same box but when I try to run a frontend on a second box it only shows the backdrop and no menus... And the cursor keys still change the mneu icon...

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VoodooZ_:

ok

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Kernel:

hello all. ive gotten my myth tv and card all set up. i can watch tv if i use "mplayer /dev/video0" but when i try to watch tv with mythtv it wont switch to livetv.

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Wandfliese:

did you configure the backend right?

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Kernel:

Wandfliese: yea i do belive so. i ran myth-setup and set up my card and channel listings.

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Kernel:

among other things...

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Wandfliese:

mythtv is a real mysterium :) – im glad that everything runs probably after 5 hours of reconfiguration ^^

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Kernel:

hehe

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Kernel:

ill post some of the mythtvbackend.log maby someone will spot somthing wrong.

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Kernel:

heres the last part of the log http://pastebin.ulteo.us/7547 ...if anyone can help it would be much appreciated :-)

[23:11:18]

Wandfliese:

sry no idea – im new to linux and mythtv and a windows veteran so im a ultra-boon ;-)

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Kernel:

hehe np. somone else might though :-)

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hadees:

any one know what happened to the xbox use flags in the gentoo ebuilds? If you are going to run mythtv on a xbox do you still need to specify that in the configure?

[23:29:38]

hadees:

hmm well the wiki doesn't have any xbox configure options for mythtv so i guess they took that out

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VoodooZ_:

crap.. A fresh install still has the same problem. odd as It's the exact same OS as my backend. I'll start poking around the themes files to see if anything is missing... Or even try a different scheme... what the key value for that?

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leprechau:

okay...quicky question...mythtv is working for the most part....xvid (ie, mplayer) works fine but internal player (dvd images) i get sound but no video...anyone know what the problem is?

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leprechau:

btw...im using the 96xx nvidia driver on an older geforce 2 go (32mb vram) ... and have mplayer set to use the gl video out option

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spader3d:

have a philips 7130 tv card but can not get sound on frontend

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spader3d:

what to do?

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