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Sunday, June 24th, 2007, 00:02 UTC

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kristok:

I upgraded my box from fc4 to f7, and now the fonts look like crap

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hads:

OK

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kristok:

any suggestions?

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Dagmar:

Put a nice vase with some flowers near the TV to offset the ugly

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kristok:

good plan.

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Dagmar:

I'd make sure somehow you didn't get RedHat's new Ideminification or whatver they were called fonts set as the default

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Dagmar:

"We give this font to you, the community"

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Dagmar:

"(...it's mother doesn't think it's ugly)"

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kristok:

that may be it

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kristok:

how do i change the default fonts?

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Dagmar:

Depends on your window manager desktop environment thingy

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SiD3WiNDR:

heh, that unicode error from find_meta.py only occurs when using -w, so the error is not into mysql but into displaying the text on the terminal :|

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kristok:

what about just the default fonts for myth?

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Dagmar:

Themes set those

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Beirdo:

And.... bot upgrade time

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Beirdo:

sorry 'bout that

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Beirdo:

I'm a tard sometimes ;)

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mike3_:

.

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Beirdo:

I just keep forgetting to make install before restarting :)

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Beirdo:

be back in a while

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Belboz99:

Hey all, audio CD's only play for a few seconds before HAL hangs, any ideas?

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Belboz99:

ripping is the same, usually get about 80% of the first track ripped, then HAL hangs

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clever:

arg backend is having another version problem

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clever:

mythweb refuses to work

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clever:

restarting backend normaly works but its in the middle of a recording

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clever:

and i cant view the upcomming recordings to see when its free because mythweb isnt working

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Kevorkian:

that info isnt avable via a front end ?

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clever:

im not home

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clever:

winxp cant be a frontend

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Kevorkian:

if you say so

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clever:

and the frontend i think also has the same problem

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Kevorkian:

when you say mythweb refuseses to work .. what do you mean ..

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clever:

Error at /home/mythtv/mythtvbuild/mythplugins/mythweb/includes/mythbackend.php, line 172:

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clever:

Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION 'MYTH_PROTO_VERSION 34':

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clever:

i think the frontends would give a similar error

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** Kevorkian shrugs **

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Kevorkian:

you could always vnc into one and see

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clever:

i shut the X server off for all the pc's at home

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clever:

to save ram

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clever:

and im on dialup so it would be pretty slow

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clever:

found the exact line of the backend source thats spiting out the error

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clever:

the backend spits out an error each time the mythweb fails

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kristok:

myth is using the wrong audio input for my cards

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kristok:

i have pvr cards, using the svideo input, and the line in.

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kristok:

if i change the audio input manually with v4l2-ctl it works

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natediaza:

hello

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natediaza:

can anyone tell me if this pc will have enough horsepower to display HD over DVI

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natediaza:

CPU[AMD Athlon XP 1700+ clocked at 1470.006 Mhz] Kernel[Linux 2.6.20.1-slh-smp-2 i686] Up[-1:08-] Mem[-87.5/471.9MB-] HDD[-20GB(10%used)-] Procs[-94-] Client[Konversation 1.0.1]

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GreyFoxx:

natediaza: doubtful without some help from your videocard

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natediaza:

I haved an nvidia 6200 with 256mb

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natediaza:

will that help?

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GreyFoxx:

help yes, though it will force you to use XVMC to help decode the video. Still borderline though

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natediaza:

I have herd XVMC was not optimal

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natediaza:

is that right?

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GreyFoxx:

It can be glitchy for some people, plus it means a gray colour osd only

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natediaza:

GreyFoxx: thanks, I will give it a shot but since I want to do 1080 I may be out of luck.

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natediaza:

If my backend has no room for another capture card, can I add one to a frontend? Can myth work that way?

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GreyFoxx:

yup

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GreyFoxx:

and turn that one into a frontend + slave backend

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natediaza:

GreyFoxx: cool, thanks agian

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Kevorkian:

yes natediaza , but then your front becomes a back ..

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natediaza:

does it keep its on local mysql database or is it all on the master backend?

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GreyFoxx:

use a common database

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GreyFoxx:

the real question you have to ask is if you want to store all recordings in one common location or seperately on eachmachine

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GreyFoxx:

You can have the slave write to the same location as the master

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natediaza:

at a common location

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GreyFoxx:

that's how I'd do it as well

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natediaza:

nfs?

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GreyFoxx:

yup

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natediaza:

cool

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Captain_Murdoch:

GreyFoxx: still can't get good audio on that RM4100. I even tried your "mymsntvkernel.tgz" kernel. must be alsa related in my nfsroot image. I also tried my second box to make sure it wasn't hardware.

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natediaza:

which xvmc option should I enable durring configuration for nvidia 6200?

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Captain_Murdoch:

just --enable-xvmc I believe.

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natediaza:

or pro or opengl?

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Captain_Murdoch:

your nvidia isn't unichrome pro and I think the xvmc-opengl stuff is experimental but you can try that.

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Captain_Murdoch:

can't recall if that's the osd drawing stuff or not.

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clever:

kormoc: didnt fix it:P

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clever:

ive done a make clean and fully rebuilt the mythtv and installed it over the old one

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clever:

backend still crashes somewhat leaving mythweb unusable

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Dr_willis:

I cant even get mythweb working for my ubunto box. :( just getting a 'database error' page.

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RyeBrye:

anyone here have a working backend wiht fedora 7 running that has MySQL setup to allow remote connections?

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RyeBrye:

I've screwed up my /etc/my.cnf file and if someone has a working one they can pastebin that would be great :)

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Dr_willis:

i dont have that file on Ubuntu. :()

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Trentster:

hey all, maybe someone can help me with this, The last time I managed to install knoppmyth was on r5d1 since then every release including r5f1 has had the same problem , after installation the machine hangs when it trying to run the script to set-up the nvidia card, I think its a xorg problem..any ideas?

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Trentster:

strange thing is that mythdora install and works no problem, but I would really like to use knoppmyth as my distribution....

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pigeon:

what's a transcode error status 235?

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media:

Anyone know what could cause mythbackend to use 100% cpu when there are no tuner cards, job queue, scheduling, and housekeeping are all turned off?

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GreyFoxx:

running 0.20 or 0.20-fixes ?

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GreyFoxx:

Cause 0.20 had a couple bugs that were fixed in -fixes that could cause that

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cheeseboy:

hi

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cheeseboy:

which distro should i put mythtv on?

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[R]:

whatever dist you're most comfortable with

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cheeseboy:

im fine w/ any

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cheeseboy:

whats the easiest?

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[R]:

wahtever you like the best

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cheeseboy:

:/

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kormoc:

cheeseboy, it's just an application, that's like saying, what distro should I run firefox on? the answer is it works just as well on any of them

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cheeseboy:

kormoc, mythtv is more difficult than firefox tho

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[R]:

ok, its like asking what distro you should run KDE on

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cheeseboy:

:/

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cheeseboy:

is knopmyth and good?

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[R]:

try it and find out

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[R]:

i'm sure someone finds it good, or else it woudlnt exist

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kormoc:

cheeseboy, some people like it, others don't

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** kormoc will repeat that answer for any distro asked about **

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[R]:

so i'm installing gtk and it's plethora of deps JUST for thsi new nvidia driver

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[R]:

it better be worth it

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Dr_willis:

knoppmyth was very quick to get instlled/going.

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Dr_willis:

but still you will need to learn the proper way to configure mythtv for your system.

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Dr_willis:

similer projects are 'mythdora' and that 'mythubuntu'

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Dr_willis:

there may be others..

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[R]:

nothing beats compiling and setting it up all yourself

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cheeseboy:

which is most advanced / stable?

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kormoc:

cheeseboy, there is none

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cheeseboy:

[R], ive done that and it sucked

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kormoc:

all depends on your administration skills and how they match the distro you pick

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[R]:

the most advanced is compiling and setting it up yourself

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kormoc:

Which every distro has the ability to do

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cheeseboy:

ya but was such a pain

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cheeseboy:

took me a week to get everything setup

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[R]:

it doenst take a week to compile myth

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kormoc:

on a 386...

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cheeseboy:

to get working

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[R]:

probably a month on 386

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[R]:

you gotta do the same mythtv-setup regardless of how myth was installed

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cheeseboy:

[R], just had tons of little problems

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cheeseboy:

then it was laggy

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cheeseboy:

anyone try mythbuntu ?

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kormoc:

cheeseboy, some people like it, others don't

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cheeseboy:

is it buggy?

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cheeseboy:

cause its alpha

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kormoc:

no more then others

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kormoc:

all depends on your administration skills and how they match the distro

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cheeseboy:

k thnx gnight

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media:

does the xbox 360 running on the network and causing mythbackend to hit 100% exist for .20 or just svn?

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GreyFoxx:

that bug is in 0.20

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GreyFoxx:

a newenough version of 0.20-fixes is fine

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GreyFoxx:

and svn is fine

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media:

greyfoxx: the commit I see doesn't appear to look like .20 code

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GreyFoxx:

I don't know what you are looking at, but I am sure it affected 0.20 release

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media:

http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/12423

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media:

the functions code doesn't match .20, I'll have to find the .20-fixes branch's version

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GreyFoxx:

That's yet another fix after some code was changed in svn which reverted the fix

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kormoc:

media, you can look at the commit history of one branch you know, right?

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GreyFoxx:

http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/12287/br . . . e-0-20-fixes was the first commit to -fixes to fix that 360 upnp problem

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media:

right, I'm just new to svn and tracking it down online

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media:

thanks

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GreyFoxx:

heh I wrote that patch before I got a 360 to test it with. Instead I was replaying some packet captures from a 360 to the network to trigger it :)

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GreyFoxx:

just update your version to the latest -fixes and you should be fine

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** do_kev hey guys.. does anybody have any thoughts on this?: **

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do_kev:

oops, meant to make this all one message. :P

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do_kev:

VideoOutputXV: XvMCTex: Init failed

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do_kev:

VideoOutputXV Error: Could not find suitable XVideo surface.

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do_kev:

VideouOutputXv: Falling back to X shared memory video output.

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do_kev:

*** May be slow***

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kormoc:

do_kev, Please don't spam the channel, please use a pastebin like the topic asks for

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do_kev:

oops, sorry.

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kormoc:

second, sounds like you just don't have XV support with your video card or drivers

[05:17:52]

do_kev:

hm.. I'm running gentoo, and I have XV in my use variable. I've emerged a package 'xv' as well as my video drivers, and just re-emerged world.

[05:18:11]

do_kev:

do I need more than just a typical startx session?

[05:18:22]

kormoc:

you need to configure your video driver in your xorg.conf

[05:18:29]

do_kev:

ahh!

[05:18:44]

do_kev:

that makes sense. Thanks.

[05:22:43]

do_kev:

after editing xorg.conf, can I just restart my x session to put the changes into effect?

[05:23:42]

kormoc:

restarting X, yes

[05:23:48]

do_kev:

thanks again

[05:30:43]

do_kev:

hm. I tried to configure my xorg.conf to make use of xvideo in the most logical way I could find (setting Option "XVideo" "1" under devices), but it doesn't help. can you think of any other configurations I would have to make?

[05:31:05]

Dagmar:

run xorgconfig and use what it makes

[05:31:32]

Dagmar:

Or perhaps use a distro that knows how to build X

[05:31:47]

Dagmar:

For XV to work is the _default_

[05:32:05]

kormoc:

or read the documentation that ships with the so far unnamed video driver

[05:32:26]

do_kev:

also good advice. I used to be using Ubuntu, but I didn't find I was learning as much as I had wanted to, and to learn was one of the reasons I wanted to switch to linux in the first place.

[05:32:38]

do_kev:

ah, also good advice.

[05:33:26]

do_kev:

regarding the video driver, I believe the answer to your question is nvidia

[05:34:24]

kormoc:

did you run eselect opengl nvidia? Do you get the nvidia splash screen on boot-up?

[05:36:06]

do_kev:

I did not and I do not, however will do so now!

[05:36:21]

kormoc:

Are you sure the driver is set to nvidia rather then nv?

[05:37:17]

do_kev:

definitely, I set that myself, although is that not the right option?

[05:37:54]

kormoc:

nvidia is, although typically the splash screen should show up unless you explicitly disabled it

[05:38:39]

do_kev:

I didn't disable it, although I didn't do much to set it up. All I did was enable it in the kernel (I believe), and emerge nvidia-legacy-drivers

[05:38:46]

do_kev:

oh, and tell it to use nvidia instead of nv

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kormoc:

what did you enable in the kernel?

[05:39:26]

do_kev:

I don't entirely remember, but I thought the drivers.

[05:39:53]

kormoc:

nvidia-legacy-drivers are the driver, so you might have enabled something that broke your drivers

[05:39:57]

do_kev:

if you don't have to enable it in the kernel, then I must be getting confused with something else. I haven't done anything that the gentoo wiki or the mythtv wiki hasn't told me to

[05:40:21]

do_kev:

well, I said must, but I suppose I mean might. It's possible that I did just do something stupid.

[05:41:26]

do_kev:

hm, but when I emerged nvidia-legacy-drivers, I didn't have XV in my use variable

[05:42:53]

kormoc:

emerge -pv package shows the useflags a package has and are set, ones in green are ones that need re-emerged to take affect

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do_kev:

ahhh, gotcha.

[05:50:51]

do_kev:

sorry about that. I'm being unusually stupid tonight.

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Dagmar:

Dear sweet jesus this Harpies thing on Sci Fi is terrible

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kormoc:

Dagmar, who would have thunk that Stan Lee (who's previous tv was who wants to be a super hero) would make such a aweful movie!

[05:58:19]

Dagmar:

I don't think he made it so much as hung around while they were shooting and let them stick his name on it

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Dagmar:

Most run-of-the-mill rennies are better at stage combat than that shit

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mIRCat:

he is still the man

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Dagmar:

s/man/old man/;

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Dagmar:

Looks like it's almost fire season there

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meteor-1500:

hrmm i've still got a channel changing problem, when i program a recording it changes channel fine, but when i press up and down(keys listsed in keys.txt file) it doesn't, it comes up with adding mark in osd

[07:13:03]

meteor-1500:

channel number then enter doesn't work either

[07:14:15]

Dagmar:

When you're watching a recording?

[07:14:22]

meteor-1500:

no when i've watching live tv

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meteor-1500:

and there's no recordings running

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Dagmar:

LiveTV *is* a recording but at least the thing knows it's livetv

[07:14:53]

meteor-1500:

it's when i go watch tv option in the frontend menu, so that should be live

[07:14:56]

Dagmar:

Perhaps you need to use Ubuntu

[07:14:59]

meteor-1500:

yeah i realise that

[07:15:12]

meteor-1500:

i'm on kubuntu actually

[07:15:36]

meteor-1500:

as far as i can see it's got to just be some keystroke bindings issue, but i can't quite figure where to change it

[07:15:46]

Dagmar:

Then install mythcontrols and use it to look up what keys to press

[07:15:59]

meteor-1500:

ok yep

[07:16:08]

Dagmar:

...because using this is stupid-simple for everyone else.

[07:16:48]

meteor-1500:

well yeah i know, i installed this as per instructions and i can't figure out why it's not on the default keys

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samesame:

hows the development of mythtv getting on these days?

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kormoc:

samesame, http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/timeline

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samesame:

ok thanks

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TheDuck:

I can't seem to figure out how to select composite video in. I've read some forum article about needing to setup a "dummy device", but have no clue about what is meant by that

[08:09:19]

TheDuck:

I tried pressing C during live television as proposed by the keyboard command list, but no effect on my pvr500

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Dagmar:

The list doesn't propose anything.

[08:41:20]

Dagmar:

It's just a list.

[08:43:42]

TheDuck:

if that was an answer to me, then I don't understood it

[08:44:21]

Dagmar:

You skipped over an important part of things because you didn't understand it, and then took something that isn't instructions to be instructions

[08:44:26]

Dagmar:

...and now you're wondering why this failed.

[08:45:03]

TheDuck:

anyway, I have figured out by trial and error, that the forum actually meant "dummy channel", and I now have a working setup

[08:45:20]

TheDuck:

no, I'm wondering which solar system you're from

[08:45:36]

Dagmar:

I'm wondering what language you speak.

[08:45:40]

Dagmar:

"then I don't understood it"

[08:46:17]

Dagmar:

From future tense to past tense in one swift stroke.

[08:46:44]

Dagmar:

But if you want to be bitchy when I'm trying to point out where you went awry, you have fun with that.

[08:46:51]

TheDuck:

yeah, you're the iq king of second language – have a nice day

[08:46:57]

Dagmar:

Keep that head buried nice and deep in the cool sand and dark.

[08:47:16]

TheDuck:

may tomorrow be a better day for you

[08:47:42]

TheDuck:

you're not an operator, so I'll gladly ignore you

[08:47:45]

Dagmar:

Be sure and take the window seat on the short bus so we can wave to you as it goes by.

[08:49:02]

TheDuck:

what a sad sad personm

[08:49:22]

Dagmar:

You're not an adult, so it's highly unlikely I need to give a damn what you think.

[08:49:43]

Dagmar:

Adults don't act like pricks when someone tries to show them where their method failed.

[08:50:38]

TheDuck:

keep on with teh acqusations, please give me a lecture on adulthood – don't waste your time knowing of which you speak, since you're a true deus and should be recognised as such

[08:51:08]

Dagmar:

*whinewhinewhine*

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Dagmar:

Go tell your mum.

[08:51:31]

TheDuck:

she's dead, as most moms are when you reach 50 yourself

[08:51:33]

kormoc:

so... switch subjects... How bout that alchol?

[08:51:43]

kormoc:

*alcohol

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TheDuck:

o/' pissing in a river – watching it rise

[08:52:34]

kormoc:

Yet another Saturday night, bottle of booze, Eternal Sunshine playing for the nth time, what more can one ask for

[08:52:51]

Dagmar:

An orbital railgun control system.

[08:53:27]

kormoc:

Hrm... that would be dangerous for most everyone right now...

[08:53:54]

Dagmar:

Not if I were in control.

[08:54:09]

Dagmar:

One at a time, everyone on the planet would be asked "Are you a moron?"

[08:54:26]

kormoc:

sadly, I'd likely answer, 'Yes, yes I am'

[08:54:45]

Dagmar:

Anyone who gets angry about the question is vaporized. Everyone else, regardless of the answer, lives.

[08:55:03]

TheDuck:

the usual signs of a troll

[08:55:18]

Dagmar:

I guarantee you it would eliminate probably 20% of the human race.

[08:55:28]

kormoc:

TheDuck, don't feed it if you consider it one

[08:55:28]

Dagmar:

...and certainly one sack of ignorance in here.

[08:55:39]

TheDuck:

kormoc: I hear you

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Dagmar:

People are always so quick to get pissed off about things.

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kormoc:

"Adults are, like, this mess of sadness and phobias."

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Dagmar:

Oh crap. Someone knows something they don't. Gotta get all mad about it to cover up for the feeling of inadequacy.

[08:57:12]

Dagmar:

kormoc: Well, the annoying as hell thing is that children never seem to get all that bothered by questions like that.

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hads:

*yawn*. Quit your bitching.

[08:58:13]

kormoc:

innocence is bliss...

[08:58:30]

kormoc:

Mornin'? Evenin'? hads

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hads:

Hey kormoc, 20:58 Sunday eve here, few beers sunk, hoping it's not Monday tomorrow :)

[08:59:17]

hads:

And yourself?

[08:59:44]

kormoc:

Rather drunk myself, and glad it's sunday tomorrow for me :)

[09:00:01]

hads:

Danm you ;)

[09:01:28]

kormoc:

heh, tho you're a full day of drinking ahead of me! :P

[09:02:41]

hads:

True, the fridge is now bare, last glass of beer sitting next to me on the couch. At least I have no deadlines tomorrow so it'll be quiet.

[09:05:50]

hads:

rsyncing my entire laptop drive to the server via WiFi takes a long time. Odd that.

[09:06:19]

kormoc:

If one isn't *too* concerned about things --size-only speeds up rsyncing a lot

[09:07:31]

hads:

I upgraded my laptop so am shifting data to a new drive, the lazy way :)

[09:09:05]

Dagmar:

I thought the lazy way was just putting the thing on a mini-ATA adapter and chucking it into a real machine.

[09:10:01]

hads:

Yeah, but the new drive is next to me and a real machine is at least 3 metres away :)

[09:10:25]

Dagmar:

OMG you might have to roll your desk chair

[09:10:45]

kormoc:

hence why this is the lazy way

[09:11:03]

hads:

I'm on the couch so no rolling. Besides the fact that an adapter will need to be hunted out in the spare room :)

[09:11:34]

Dagmar:

Geeky or not, my front room has three floor-to-ceiling in-wall bookshelves

[09:11:46]

Dagmar:

...which contain exactly zero books, and about 400 pounds of spare parts.

[09:12:58]

hads:

There's no way I'd get away with that unfortunately.

[09:13:13]

Dagmar:

I stack very neatly. :)

[09:14:02]

Dagmar:

What's probably not going to help any burglar is that I've got half geodes, various crystals, artificial human skulls, etc sprinkled throughout the lot for flavor.

[09:15:39]

Dagmar:

Frankly because once you buy a replica of a human skull, you realize there's really not any rational place to put it up for display in the home.

[09:16:21]

kormoc:

stick a few (black) candles on top and a snake though a eye and a nose and call it the fancy dinner center-peice

[09:16:24]

Dagmar:

...and buying a second one doesn't really help. They don't work as a "set" either.

[09:16:38]

Dagmar:

God forbid you keep them in the fridge or something.

[09:19:05]

kormoc:

encase them in jello

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hads:

heh

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Dagmar:

I think that perhaps, even floating in jello, if they were uncovered without the proper amount of explanation, people would be ripping up the floorboards and ruining the garden.

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AndyCap:

not to mention you

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juski:

morny

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kormoc:

Mornin'

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Honk:

und warum ist meine scheiß treelist jetzt up-down statt left-right orientiert? *lol*

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juski:

Honk: maybe you need #mythtv-de ;)

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Honk:

gah

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Honk:

sorry :]

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Honk:

that's where this was meant to go :]

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juski:

o rly.. lol

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Honk:

=D

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rooaus:

Anyone know what "Stream type 'nsv' is not an mpeg, and will not work with this program." means from mythrename.pl (svn trunk)? --verbose doesn't provide any further info

[11:07:08]

rooaus:

I think NSV may relate to Nullsoft Streaming Video, but I only have Myth generated .mpg and .png in the recording directory... strange

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juski:

rooaus: are you actually running svn or have you just grabbed the script from there?

[11:12:12]

rooaus:

juski: running -r13691M, got a couple of local mods in the WC that shouldn't affect this

[11:12:42]

juski:

so is that svn head though?

[11:13:10]

rooaus:

juski: trunk... yeah

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rooaus:

juski: I searched through mythrename.pl and couldn't find any reference to NSV, also can't grep any NSV from the mythtv/bindings *.pl and *.pm files

[11:22:46]

juski:

hrm dunno then

[11:23:05]

juski:

but my head's still kinda wrecked from yesterday & last night

[11:24:45]

rooaus:

juski: I think I suffered a brain fart, I think I grepped for NSV not nsv... I will poke through the relevant files again.

[11:25:41]

rooaus:

juski: The all night and all day benders seem like such a good idea at the time, but even if the grog is free you end up paying

[11:26:11]

laga:

rooaus: grp -ri ...

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juski:

there was dancing til around 4am. don't generally do dancing... must be quite a sight :-P

[11:26:50]

rooaus:

laga: thanks for that

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rooaus:

juski: I know I had a big night when I have danced

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juski:

shapes were thrown!

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rooaus:

bbq shapes?

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Dagmar:

I was talking with someone earlier who believed that the main reason people smoked weed was peer pressure

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juski:

rooaus: dancefloor shapes lol

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rooaus:

:)

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Dagmar:

colors were tasted

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Dagmar:

?

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juski:

yeah like I'm some pill-popping Emo kid :-P

[11:31:19]

Dagmar:

Well, you're sitting there talking about throwing shapes

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juski:

I don't need drugs m'kay...

[11:32:52]

juski:

though must be pretty hard to imagine me of all people being a bit of a party animal, since I'm so uptight while I'm here

[11:33:21]

Dagmar:

Well, narcs party, too

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Dagmar:

;)

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juski:

tho some of the emo girls I saw last night.. oh wow. something about druggy chic. maybe I had way too much to drink

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laga:

yes, probably

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Dagmar:

alcohol == drug

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laga:

no

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laga:

it's a way of life

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laga:

;)

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juski:

yeah but we generally refer to hard stuff as drugs & the mass killer as a recreational tonic round these parts

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Dagmar:

So the soft stuff you just take for granted then

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juski:

dunno what I'd class weed as – other than pointless

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rooaus:

granted... I take it daily (alcohol that is) ;)

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Dagmar:

I'm still just trying to figure out (besides living in a cave) what makes one come to the conclusion that people smoke weed more due to peer pressure than that *it makes you high*

[11:39:15]

juski:

I've seen situations where people are being more than encouraged to smoke

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juski:

goaded, even

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Dagmar:

Oh I'm not saying ther'es no arm twisting

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Dagmar:

...but don't buy that there's a huge number of people for whom no prompting is needed

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juski:

sure – just that not everybody has to be goaded into it :O

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Dagmar:

er but I don't buy that in that there's...

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juski:

and what?! you mean not everybody is taking drugs because some evil *pusher* forced them to do it?!

[11:41:23]

juski:

eesh

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juski:

people having their own free will – imagine that!

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Dagmar:

Oh noes

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Dagmar:

The FBI sez colleges may have SPIES enrolling to learn our sekrits

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Trentster:

hey all, how do i get knoppmyth to reprobe my lcd tv and update xorg.conf, I did a knoppmyth install on an lcd panel and now moved the box to an lcd tv, and it still has old settings in it...

[12:10:27]

juski:

maybe somebody in #knoppmyth knows ;)

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laga:

if i i had to guess, i'd say sudo dpkg-reconfigure --force xserver-xorg or vim /etc/xorg.conf

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Dagmar:

Wipe the disk, reinstall.

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juski:

if I'd have even suspected they'd lose the picture I'd never have even sent it to them

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juski:

oops.

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Honk:

what's wrong if my managedtreelist shows up but has no decorations whatsoever? :)

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kitfrog:

so, is there any good libraries for accessing the mythtv database through some sort of an API or would I have to go and learn the schema and access mysql directly...

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Dagmar:

Guess.

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** Dagmar grins evilly **

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Dagmar:

What nuvexport does with the perl bindings is as close as it gets, and that's not much

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kitfrog:

okay, that's what I thought. looks like im making a mythtv API in python...

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juski:

you might want to look at xbmcmythtv

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kitfrog:

thanks, looks like a good start for what I need

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juski:

arggh teh intarwebs is slow today. muhhhhhhhhhhhh

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** juski smacks his broadband **

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sebrock:

the OSD themes, do they set resolution corresponding to the tvstream resolution?

[14:43:03]

sebrock:

My OSD looks really low resolution

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Dagmar:

You mean like 640x480

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Dagmar:

This is by design.

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Dagmar:

yay.

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sebrock:

is it

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sebrock:

the screens in the wiki looks way better anyway

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Dagmar:

Yeah, I think the OSD was the first thing to be themed, and therefore the one that works in the most retarded (in hindsight) fashion possible

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sebrock:

hm..

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Dagmar:

It annoys the hell out of me because it makes my stuff look blurry

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juski:

I'd never noticed it til I saw livetv on this monitor

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juski:

must be real bad for folks who do HD

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sebrock:

I noticed it yesterday too

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TSCHAK:

it could be better, yes

[14:46:15]

juski:

riiight it's not my BB connection it's my stupid conscooter

[14:46:19]

sebrock:

well, Im in the process of making a new theme

[14:46:28]

Dagmar:

Note how the horizontal lines around the ticker text look on http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s188/evildagmar/alert.png

[14:46:38]

Dagmar:

They are not supposed to be blurry

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Dagmar:

I'm going to have to pixel-align them to get around that

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sebrock:

going for the darkish of grayhem mixed with os X stylish aqua stuff

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sebrock:

didnt think it would take this much of my time though

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juski:

doesn't look _so_ bad though

[14:49:05]

juski:

:)

[14:49:31]

juski:

plus a wad of antialising can work wonders for folks with interlaced TVs

[14:49:46]

Dagmar:

It makes my images look sloppy.

[14:50:01]

Dagmar:

Prole.

[14:50:47]

Dagmar:

I'm sure it'll get cleared up sooner or later

[14:50:56]

Dagmar:

The way font colors are specified for OSD is just cockeyed

[14:51:00]

Dagmar:

Someone will fix it eventually

[14:51:23]

juski:

I think when the idea of theme meta tags is implemented – that'll be the ideal opportunity

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TSCHAK:

i'm more worried that it looks like a red alert, personally.

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** TSCHAK runs!!! **

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TSCHAK:

:-D

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Dagmar:

Well, it *is* the critical alert osd

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sebrock:

Under DVD menu, archive is more or less "burn to DVD"?

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TSCHAK:

sebrock, i dunno, try it out and see, if it takes your DVDs to the library, at least it didn't burn them, the smoke would burn your eyes.

[15:10:43]

sebrock:

Im asking because of the design of an icon to a theme...

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sebrock:

funnyguy :)

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TSCHAK:

yes, it's burn to dvd.

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sebrock:

great

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sebrock:

is theme.xml the only file that is including graphics?

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Dagmar:

You can grep any theme to find out the answer to that

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sebrock:

I don't have my myth machine fired up, so it is way way easier to ask here

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sebrock:

Im doing the theme on a mac with photoshop obviously

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juski:

easy, non-lazy way to find out is to look in any of the xml files there

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sebrock:

oww come on guys

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juski:

come on nothing. just look. it's not hard

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sebrock:

as far as I can see that is the case

[15:37:36]

juski:

or read the wiki entries about theme design

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sebrock:

juski, Dagmar – get a room ;)

[15:38:24]

Dagmar:

By asking these things you are basically saying "my time is much more valuable than all of yours"

[15:38:27]

Dagmar:

We disagree.

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sebrock:

At least I dont spend my life in this place...

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** sebrock is out for a run **

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juski:

and yeah 'all' you need to do to make a theme is replace some graphics! 'all'.. ffs lol

[15:39:28]

Dagmar:

Yep. Those are the words of a man who wants to be given subtly wrong answers

[15:39:54]

sebrock:

juski, thats not making a theme...

[15:40:19]

juski:

you're veering very close to the territory of teaching grandma to suck eggs here boy

[15:40:20]

sebrock:

ahhww, nevermind

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juski:

believe it or not, changing only one element at a time is very helpful for finding out which parts of the xml file do what. In the case of ui.xml you're gonna need all the help you can get, believe me!

[15:41:50]

Dagmar:

even *with* the additions I made to the wiki

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sebrock:

My approach is to first change graphics then locations etc.

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juski:

can't remember if I added the part about fleximage="yes" yet

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juski:

seriously though – don't just blunder in there or you can lose track pretty fast

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sebrock:

I work with XML stuff at sonyericsson

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sebrock:

nemas problemas

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juski:

that doesn't mean very much at all in this context

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juski:

it's like saying "yeah I've edited html files before"

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sebrock:

It means I have no problems in visualizing XML

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sebrock:

well, you'll see when its ready

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juski:

you're basically fucked if that's your outlook then. myth doesn't always treat xml files as you'd expect

[15:45:05]

juski:

there are plenty of undocumented features to keep you on the ball

[15:45:18]

sebrock:

trail'n error then

[15:45:18]

Dagmar:

Not to mention a complete lack of uniformity

[15:45:20]

juski:

so don't go burning any bridges ;)

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sebrock:

I'll be thanking you in the readme ;)

[15:45:55]

sebrock:

besides I have Grayhem as background

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juski:

am I gonan regret making one of my themes open source?

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sebrock:

I don't think so

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juski:

I hope to $deity you don't make it any worse than it was before the recent revamp

[15:46:42]

sebrock:

honestly, if it's one think that MythTV does not have then it is a nice consistent theme

[15:46:42]

juski:

;)

[15:46:59]

juski:

I'm slightly offended by that

[15:47:06]

jams:

yep

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sebrock:

and juski, yours is the bests so far

[15:47:18]

juski:

I work my nuts off

[15:47:58]

sebrock:

it'g going to be fine this one

[15:48:16]

sebrock:

you'll probably see some similarity to grayhem

[15:48:23]

sebrock:

in color schemes etc.

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juski:

maybe what you mean is, not all plugins have xml files in all themes, which kinda spoils consistency. that's definitely something I plan to address

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sebrock:

yeah, but I acutally mean consistensy in the design

[15:49:09]

sebrock:

ie. visual

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sebrock:

mixed colorschemes etc

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juski:

where in the world are all these mixed colour schemes in my themes then?

[15:49:54]

sebrock:

you have some :D

[15:50:02]

juski:

so tell me

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** jams cant help but notice sebrock digging a deeper and deeper hole for himself **

[15:50:36]

Dagmar:

You know

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juski:

stuff can't get fixed if I dunno what's up

[15:50:49]

Dagmar:

That theme you have with the maple leaves in the background with all the orange, pink, and brown in it

[15:51:05]

sebrock:

well, many of the graphics in "shared"

[15:51:08]

juski:

and as you'll soon discover, there are things that can stare you in the face & you still don't see until somebody else points them out

[15:51:46]

sebrock:

look, with consistency I talk about the whole picture here

[15:52:00]

Dagmar:

Oooohbuzzwordnomical!

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juski:

you can't just make a sweeping statement like that & not back it up with anything

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sebrock:

juski, I'll be up for a comparison when mine is done ok

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sebrock:

let's just be happy now

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juski:

you're flat refusing to tell me why you think my design is inconsistent

[15:53:20]

sebrock:

and I am saying that grayhem was my choice before choose to make my own

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laga:

:)

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Dagmar:

Amazing.

[15:54:00]

Dagmar:

I guess he has a "talk shit now. talk shit later, too" approach

[15:54:06]

juski:

how the hell am I supposed to put right something that is wrong if I'm not told what's wrong?!

[15:54:25]

jams:

sebrock- are you the person talking about using gimp for themeing as well?

[15:54:44]

sebrock:

ok, some of the graphics, icons has a way to strong color to go with the black of the whole theme

[15:54:52]

sebrock:

It just sticks out to much

[15:54:55]

sebrock:

jams no

[15:55:09]

Dagmar:

They're all the same shade of grey

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juski:

I can see from here that the gallery-folder* images are a very bold red, but they're not used. I plan to update them anyway

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sebrock:

this leads to nothing

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jams:

sebrock- good =)

[15:55:32]

sebrock:

juski OK great

[15:55:40]

juski:

they're not even USED though ffs

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laga:

maybe you need to adjust the contrast of your screen ;)

[15:55:57]

juski:

i.e. have NEVER appeared onscreen unless you copy them into the theme root

[15:56:16]

juski:

I did plan to clean them out but got sidetracked

[15:56:20]

sebrock:

laga, take your tounge out of juskis ass please ;)

[15:56:38]

laga:

sebrock: i'm just playing the devils advocate :P

[15:56:41]

juski:

sebrock: ok. don't you EVER come in here asking for my help

[15:56:41]

Dagmar:

juski: This is one of those "when I pour water into the computer it goes all funny — it shouldn't allow me to pour water into it" bug reports

[15:56:41]

sebrock:

hehe

[15:56:50]

jams:

sebrock- watch your tone, thats a fast way to get kicked

[15:57:07]

laga:

jams: i'd have done it if i had super powers in here :)

[15:57:10]

juski:

I offerred you a frickin olive branch & you kicked me in the face

[15:57:12]

laga:

thank god that's not the case.

[15:57:25]

sebrock:

jams, strange, it seems that freedom of speech is only applied to a few in here

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sebrock:

juski?

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TSCHAK:

sebrock, you misunderstand....we just don't like wankers. ;-)

[15:57:56]

juski:

I think that went quite well. anger management pt one

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sebrock:

TSCHAK I'll remember that

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jams:

laga, i'm very tolerant, until people start to get offensive on purpose

[15:58:18]

sebrock:

hehe

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Dagmar:

Deliberately spreading misinformation is a pet peeve of mine

[15:58:37]

laga:

freedom of speech? FFS; IRC is a priviledge and not a right

[15:58:42]

sebrock:

look, it's all fun and games here. I'm not accusing anyone for anything!

[15:58:57]

Dagmar:

No, you have this channel confused with #hottub

[15:59:04]

Dagmar:

Internets are serious business, damnit.

[15:59:13]

laga:

s/priviledge/privilege/

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TSCHAK:

sebrock, look, it's like this... the themes are all in the XML.. it's not documented very well at the moment...so...really....mess around.... see what does what...and if you think it's important to document...well...write it on the wiki. :-)

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juski:

as if writing in the wiki will make much of a difference but hey let's not get too pendantic

[15:59:43]

sebrock:

TSCHAK, I'm there already. And when done I'll update the wiki somewhat

[16:00:42]

juski:

can you spell urinating into a column of moving air?

[16:00:49]

sebrock:

juski, do you have a picture online? I would so like to put a face to your sayings :D

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TSCHAK:

juski, it really depends on the person... but at least (a) the wiki is accessible from mythtv.org, and (b) people are writing useful info on it.. it has saved my butt a few times...maybe my stuff has helped someone, who knows?

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juski:

very altruistic. try suggesting somebody read the wiki in here sometimes, honestly

[16:01:38]

sebrock:

now now, happy happy

[16:01:55]

sebrock:

I'm going out for a run, see ya

[16:01:57]

juski:

I've not yet found a suitably inoffensive way to say 'look in the wiki – what you need is there'

[16:02:24]

juski:

mordo want help now! now I say! muhhhhhhhhhhhh

[16:02:39]

TSCHAK:

hahaha

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kitfrog:

dear god. so a theme is inconsistent because it includes some icons which aren't event displayed? this should be called a 'hot coffee' bug

[16:08:59]

Dagmar:

IT WAS TEH HAX0RS!!

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kitfrog:

lol

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TSCHAK:

on another note, I bought an X-Arcade Tank Stick (two arcade sticks, 8 buttons a piece, two on each side, and a trackball!).... this thing RULES

[16:10:57]

TSCHAK:

:-)

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Dr_willis:

TSCHAK, oh? a trackball in the middle?

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Matty:

Hi

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Matty:

Is there anyone here?

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laga:

Matty: no

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Matty:

You're here though

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Dr_willis:

:)

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Matty:

I need help setting up

[16:22:10]

Matty:

What are all the pieces of hardware I need for a decent setup?

[16:22:12]

Dr_willis:

Ok. We can try to assist.

[16:22:21]

Matty:

I know Mobo, CPU, RAM, HDD, but what else?

[16:22:25]

Dr_willis:

Fairly Mid-range pc.. tv tuner card.. big HD..

[16:22:33]

Dr_willis:

nvidia video card with tv out...

[16:22:37]

Dr_willis:

is about all i got.

[16:22:45]

Matty:

On my TV

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Matty:

Which I want to watch it on

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Matty:

I have HDMI, Scart and S-Video ports

[16:23:11]

Matty:

Can I use any of those?

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Dr_willis:

You can get a $40 Nvidia video card with tv out/no fan – that will work decently well. No idea on the hdms/scart stuff – but it has svideo out

[16:23:39]

Matty:

Oh ok

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Matty:

And I have a cable box aswell

[16:23:51]

Matty:

Virgin Media (UK)

[16:23:57]

Matty:

Will I be able to use it with that

[16:23:57]

Dr_willis:

Getting that working . may be Much more of a challenge.

[16:24:04]

Matty:

Ah

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Matty:

All I want to do is record off it really..

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Dr_willis:

I just use my mythtv box to record the 'low' channels. Wife has the cable box that lets her get the high channels.

[16:24:31]

Dr_willis:

I hear it can be done. Depending on the cable box.

[16:24:46]

Matty:

Ok..

[16:24:51]

Matty:

My box is weird

[16:25:07]

Matty:

The input cable from the 'wall' is a special cable made by the firm

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Dagmar:

Sounds like FIOS

[16:25:31]

Matty:

Never heard of that :P

[16:25:39]

Dagmar:

...or they completely have you snowed.

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Dr_willis:

so you have to use the cable box ti get any channels at all then eh.

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Matty:

Yeah

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Matty:

No ariel

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Dagmar:

Cable company employees never make things up which are untrue to tell customers

[16:26:22]

Dagmar:

Never, ever.

[16:26:48]

Matty:

I think I may phone my supplyer and find out what cable they use..

[16:26:55]

Dr_willis:

in my area. got a normal coax cableantanna to the tv. it lets me get 1–60 channel. To get higher. I have to use their digital tuner box.

[16:27:10]

Matty:

I have that aswell

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Dr_willis:

so my mythtv box works good for 1–60. but not for the highers. Id have to tweak it more for that.

[16:27:25]

Dr_willis:

so i dont bother watching those much. :)

[16:27:38]

Matty:

I have 2 TVs using normal arial cable with freeview

[16:27:58]

Matty:

So it would be hard recording off my cable box?

[16:28:30]

Dagmar:

Sure

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Dr_willis:

its dosable i hear.. but may take some research

[16:29:06]

Dr_willis:

run cable box video out to the tuner card. set up the mythtv box to change channels correctly..

[16:29:15]

Dr_willis:

and pray. :)

[16:29:42]

Matty:

Yeah

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Matty:

Think is, I was planning on building a new PC for it..

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TSCHAK:

Dr_willis, yes.

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Matty:

And I don't really want to waste the money

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Dr_willis:

you can use about any older pc these days for a decent mythtv box.

[16:31:03]

Dr_willis:

Mine is a AMD anth. 1.7 ghz cpu. 500gb HD. 1 gb ram.

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Dagmar:

I suggest you take this in little experimental steps then

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Dr_willis:

rather low end. :)

[16:31:21]

Dagmar:

There's not likely going to be anyone in here who can tell you "Oh yes it will all work just how you want it"

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Matty:

Well I do have an old PC, but it's very low end

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Dr_willis:

if its over 1 ghz cpu. It proberly can work.

[16:32:05]

Matty:

An old celeron

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Dr_willis:

somthign to play with at least.

[16:32:14]

Matty:

Probably 256MB RAM

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Matty:

But I think I would need a new graphics card for it

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Dr_willis:

Low end nvidia card + tv out = $40 us or so. and thats like a 256mb video card. :)

[16:33:07]

Matty:

Is there MythTV version for ubuntu 6.10 edgy?

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Dr_willis:

Ive heard getting MythTv working with edgy can be a trial.. I do have it working with Feisty however.

[16:33:28]

Dagmar:

google

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Matty:

What OS does it support the best?

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Dr_willis:

there is also a Mythubuntu project in the works. (alpha release last i looked)

[16:34:10]

Dagmar:

It supports Linux best

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Dagmar:

Works like crap on OSX

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Matty:

I know that

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Matty:

What distro?

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Dagmar:

Oh you want to know what distro

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Dagmar:

I think it works pretty well on mine

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Dr_willis:

theres also a MythDora – i hear thats decently well done. DIdent work right for me however.

[16:34:47]

Dr_willis:

KnoppMyth worked decently well.

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Matty:

Ive heard it works decent on Gentoo

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Dagmar:

heheh

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Dr_willis:

Ubuntu Feisty + mythtv works ok for me. its also my fileserver :)

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Matty:

Hey thats an idea..

[16:35:54]

Dr_willis:

and my torrent-downloader box

[16:35:59]

Matty:

Does Mythtv just store the files as normal MPEG-2/4 yeah?

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Dr_willis:

Technicially im using LinuxMint. – a ubuntu variant. :)

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Matty:

Ok thanks for the help Willis

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Matty:

I will go out and buy a S-Video graphic card

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Matty:

And see how I do

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Matty:

$40 is nothing :P

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Dr_willis:

I like the nvidia one – that has no fan. = more quiet pc in the living room.

[16:38:17]

Dr_willis:

BUt they can be a bit harder to find.

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Matty:

Ok

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Matty:

Im sure ebay will have something

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Matty:

Im gonna network it aswell, use it as a fileserver

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Matty:

Im gonna need a big ethernet cable for this one

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Matty:

15m will do

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Dagmar:

*snicker*

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Matty:

Whats up with you?

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Dagmar:

15m "big"

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Matty:

15m long..

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Matty:

You are a funny person..

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Dagmar:

I work in a NOC

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Matty:

Good for you

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Dagmar:

Thats' shorter than any cable I've run in the last two months

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Matty:

It only needs to go from my lounge, through a wall to my router

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Matty:

Nothing long distance

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Dr_willis:

what is the max legenth for a normal network cable?

[17:05:50]

Dr_willis:

100m? 200m?

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Dr_willis:

friend at work wants to run one Outside.. from one house to another.

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adante:

Dr_willis: i think it depends on ethernet speed.. the ethernet article on wikipedia should tell you

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Dr_willis:

do they make weatherproof cable? :)

[17:07:41]

adante:

i've also been told running it between houses is a possibly bad idea (exposure, power phase differences?)

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Dr_willis:

adante, ahh. never thought of power phase stuff.

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Dr_willis:

I think hes going wireless anyway. :) but i was curious

[17:08:25]

Dr_willis:

I need to run a cable from the house to the garrage someday.

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adante:

well, i've just been told its a bad idea, the phase part is speculation on my part

[17:10:29]

Matty:

I found a page about virgin media with myth TV

[17:10:31]

Matty:

http://losdos.dyndns.org:8080/public/mythtv-i . . . ed_LIRC.html

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Matty:

No idea what its about :P

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adante:

2005 wow

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Matty:

I think I may ditch the idea..

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Matty:

And just set one up on another TV, using my coax arial cable

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Matty:

Wouldnt that be simpler :P

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Matty:

Im off. Thanks for the help everyone

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GlemSom:

Anyone had trouble playing DVD's from blockbuster? I just got two DVD's that won't play... Though – other DVD's play fine (tried both mplayer and xine)

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hiredgoon:

GlemSom: are they clean? any residue on them? (kids drinks, coffee, etc. etc....)

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laga:

"residue"? does blockbuster carry adult entertainment?

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GlemSom:

hiredgoon, Well... As clean as they come when from blockbuster :P Out local blockbuster has an lousy quality of DVD's...

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hiredgoon:

laga: haha

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hiredgoon:

i borrow dvds from the local library often (kids ones for my daughter) and some of them are pretty nasty on the data-side

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hiredgoon:

grape jelly or snot or god knows what else

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** hiredgoon shudders **

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topping:

hi gang, anyone know why mythfrontend on my fedora 7 box doesn't render any fonts on the menu screens?

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juski:

got the right fonts installed?

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topping:

dunno?

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topping:

what should I look for?

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topping:

have all the fonts i could find installed, that's for sure :)

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topping:

juski: i looked in the database and found a reference to FreeSans.ttf, which is installed in /usr/share/mythtv

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topping:

FreeMono.ttf is in there too, but those are the only two

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juski:

topping: that's only OSD fonts

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topping:

oh ok, do you know if the correct fonts are commonly available as a package?

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juski:

mscorefonts maybe

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topping:

ok, will look around, thx

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SiD3WiNDR:

msttcorefonts

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SiD3WiNDR:

juski: you made project grayhem? it looks great

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SiD3WiNDR:

I keep reading about project grayhem osd but I seem to fail actually finding a download for it

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juski:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/justin.hornsby2/ . . . hem-osd.html

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SiD3WiNDR:

ah, thanks

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greg__:

how do i configure mysql ?

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greg__:

all the guides just asume it will work

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Cyberai:

I have an interesting conundrum – I have set up a new Windows MCe remote on my myth box and when I use irw I can see the commands on screen when I push buttons on the remote. I have the lirc.conf and lircrc files in place. But nothing happens in Myth when I use the remote. I scoured google and the wiki to no avail. Can anyone help?

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xris:

greg__: how did you install mythtv?

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greg__:

using apt-get install

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cconstantine:

I've got an odd problem. I had autoexpire on, and now I have hundreds of shows that won't record because they've expired. How to do tell mythtv to record them again without going through each one individualy and enabling them?

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HrdwrBoB:

morning all

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HrdwrBoB:

I'm having an issue where the icons of the menu items dissappear after you select another item (ie: they change state), wondering if anyone else has experienced this and knows what the issue is

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greg__:

help?

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cconstantine:

HrdwrBoB, never seen that, sorry

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HrdwrBoB:

tbh I haven't looked into it in great depth

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HrdwrBoB:

thought it might be a common thing

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HrdwrBoB:

that said, I'm also not really that happy having to run the nvidia beta drivers on my frontend PC

[19:41:19]

HrdwrBoB:

bought an 8600GT without realising there was not yet support

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maier:

hi guys

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HrdwrBoB:

yo

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cconstantine:

hi

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maier:

my xorg.log says that there arent the modes i wanna start but ive put some modelines in the monitor section

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maier:

and the names ar corect

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maier:

do i have to load a module? or doesnt vesa understand modelines?

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HrdwrBoB:

your modelines may not fall within the (defined) limits of your monitor

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xris:

greg__: sorry, was afk.. apt-get.. so debian? ubuntu? redhat? knopmyth?

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maier:

ok i try it but it think ive tried it already

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HrdwrBoB:

maier: need more info anyway

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HrdwrBoB:

what modelines

[19:48:51]

HrdwrBoB:

what monitor

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HrdwrBoB:

what video card

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HrdwrBoB:

what driver

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maier:

no ive already outcommented them

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maier:

the monitor is a tv

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maier:

and i ve pasted all modelines from this page

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HrdwrBoB:

ah.

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HrdwrBoB:

it's very difficult :)

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HrdwrBoB:

I managed to get my TV going in 1080, but it took me literally about 2–3 hours or poking around

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maier:

http://www.linuxnetmag.com/de/issue7/m7tvout1.html

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HrdwrBoB:

and changing the nvidia driver settings on what to ignore and what not to

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maier:

ive got vesa

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HrdwrBoB:

oh, standard TV

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maier:

but ive didnt anything to make it work with the tv out it works

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greg__:

xris, ubuntu

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maier:

but at sharp lines the color is moving

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maier:

and unsharp...

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maier:

especially on vertical lines

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HrdwrBoB:

TV out is .. problematic like that

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xris:

greg__: it should set mysql up for you.. assuming that you installed mysql first in a separate apt-get statement.

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HrdwrBoB:

your TV is not designed to be a monitor as such

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greg__:

xris, i used ubuntu server cd so it had mysql peinstalled

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greg__:

but it nve created mythtv user in mysql\

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maier:

i know but x has many options to make it work better and i wanna use them but he doesnt accept my shit modeline

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greg__:

never*

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xris:

greg__: the ubuntu mythtv packages do that

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greg__:

xris, when i try to use mysql as mythtv aceess denied

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xris:

greg__: locate the mysql.txt file that your packages created (it's probably in /etc/ or /etc/mythtv/) and edit it to see what the password is (ubuntu packages create a random password)

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maier:

havent you got an ide?

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maier:

a

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HrdwrBoB:

maier: yeah I would be going out and buying a nice new LCD TV :)

[19:57:26]

maier:

yes thats an option

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maier:

but

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maier:

ist probably the fbdev option?

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HrdwrBoB:

what do you mean?

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maier:

in section device

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greg__:

xris, how i find it?

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maier:

ive got OPTION UseFBdev "true"

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xris:

greg__: look in /etc/ and /etc/mythtv?

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greg__:

yes

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HrdwrBoB:

maier: you'd be much better off using your chipset native drivers

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xris:

greg__: sudo updatedb && sudo locate mysql.txt

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xris:

that'd find it if it's on your system

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greg__:

xris, i wrote down the pass X(

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maier:

it isnt supported by linux, the card ist mpact 2 from the multitainer

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greg__:

how i change it now?

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xris:

greg__: ok.. so now: mysql -u mythtv -p mythconverg

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HrdwrBoB:

oh

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xris:

then type in the password

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xris:

greg__: why change it?

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HrdwrBoB:

maier: good luck :)

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maier:

and ive got no agp slot

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maier:

an

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maier:

d

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HrdwrBoB:

honestly I wouldn't bother

[20:00:57]

HrdwrBoB:

you could make it work

[20:01:01]

HrdwrBoB:

but there's no easy fix

[20:01:08]

HrdwrBoB:

it's just playing for hours, and you may or may not get it to work

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maier:

i dont have a pci card with tvout

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maier:

thx

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maier:

but ive got no idea thats the point

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HrdwrBoB:

however, I'm not 100% familiar with the fbdev driver

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greg__:

xris, then what?

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HrdwrBoB:

but i don't think you can use modelines like that

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HrdwrBoB:

I think that's defined by the fbdev driver

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HrdwrBoB:

you can only change things using fbset

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maier:

i disable him ok

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maier:

bye

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HrdwrBoB:

.. ok

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greg__:

xris, how i cange it so i can rember it

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greg__:

change

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greg__:

*

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xris:

greg__: get into the mysql client as root

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xris:

mysql -u root -p

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xris:

GRANT ALL on mythconverg.* TO mythtv@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'some_password';

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xris:

that should fix it.

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greg__:

kk thx xris

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Cyberai:

I have an interesting conundrum – I have set up a new Windows MCe remote on my myth box and when I use irw I can see the commands on screen when I push buttons on the remote. I have the lirc.conf and lircrc files in place. But nothing happens in Myth when I use the remote. I scoured google and the wiki to no avail. Can anyone help?

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HrdwrBoB:

Cyberai: likely a typo or problem in your lirc.conf

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HrdwrBoB:

I smashed my remote in a fit of rage :/

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HrdwrBoB:

oops

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Cyberai:

HrdwrBoB, I've been looking into that. I found a more current lirc.conf, but using it causes everything to stop working, even in irw.

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HrdwrBoB:

Cyberai: oop sorry

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HrdwrBoB:

lirc.conf si fine if irw is fine

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HrdwrBoB:

lirrc I meant

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Cyberai:

HrdwrBoB, I tried combining the header info from the old one onto the new one, but no luck

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maier:

hi

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HrdwrBoB:

maier: yes

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maier:

i think my vesa

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HrdwrBoB:

you can use fbset tio change the modes in FB

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HrdwrBoB:

I'm pretty sure X can't use modelines with fbdev

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maier:

ive discommented it already

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maier:

my vesa dont accept the modelines caus it

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maier:

loads a standard monitor with standard refreshrate

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maier:

s

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maier:

which do i have to give him

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HrdwrBoB:

use fbset

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maier:

i dont have framebuffer on

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HrdwrBoB:

?

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maier:

but what can fbset do

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HrdwrBoB:

fbset sets the video mode for framebuffer

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HrdwrBoB:

so you can change the refresh/resolution

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maier:

i ll try it

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Honk:

what's wrong if my managedtreelist shows up but has no decorations? :)

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soweto76:

I am running xubuntu with a Hauppage PVR 350. Mythfrontend kills X when I use the setup routines and often when I close the program. What's up?

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TSCHAK:

soweto76, please dear god get another card.

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soweto76:

TSCHAK, the card seems to work very well with excellent sound and video output to a TV. When I finish the "appearance" options in the frontend setup menu, X is crashed. I wonder what this has to do with the card?

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SiD3WiNDR:

2007-06–24 22:59:44.219 MainServer: HandleRemoteEncoder(cmd GET_STATE) Unknown encoder: 5, exiting

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SiD3WiNDR:

keep getting this

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SiD3WiNDR:

(yay developers for exiting the backend on this)

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SiD3WiNDR:

any tips on fixing it?

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SiD3WiNDR:

deleting all tuner cards or so?

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spader3d:

hi all

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spader3d:

i would like to know how can i improve the livetv on the frontend?

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spader3d:

it is a little bit slow now on the froontend but good at the backend itself

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spader3d:

i am usyng mythbuntu as frontend and backend 0.20 on the server

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HalonChilled:

hey

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HalonChilled:

whats doing

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spader3d:

i would like to know how can i improve the livetv on the frontend?

[23:20:32]

spader3d:

i am usyng mythbuntu as frontend and backend 0.20 on the server

[23:20:35]

spader3d:

it is a little bit slow now on the frontend but good at the backend itself

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spader3d:

any help!!

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juski:

HrdwrBoB: are you using Minimaliist-wide perchance? if so, grab a checkout of the theme from svn – I fixed that issue :)

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spader3d:

i am new to myth! the only thing i have done is install myth 0.20 and install mythbuntu on a remote pc

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spader3d:

i am playing livetv very well on the server but on the remote pc a little bit choppy

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HrdwrBoB:

juski: yes I am :)

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HrdwrBoB:

juski: excellent!

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spader3d:

can it be something with the "buffer"?

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HrdwrBoB:

spader3d: get better hardware?

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juski:

spader3d: more likely the frontend pc can't keep up. you need proper drivers for the VGA hardware – that always helps – e.g. if using nnvidia, install 'nvidia' binary drivers rather than the 'nv' ones etc...

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spader3d:

for which one the server or client?

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HrdwrBoB:

spader3d: I'm using a frontend/backend setup and the only reason HD sometimes sucks is because the athlon 3200 can't keep up

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HrdwrBoB:

client

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HrdwrBoB:

the display PC needs decent grunt

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spader3d:

both pc have the same configuration

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HrdwrBoB:

which is?

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spader3d:

so the only diff is the frontend right of the live-cd

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juski:

a livecd is prolly only using very generic drivers

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spader3d:

i started the livecd frontend from a different pc eg my laptop and get the same slowness

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juski:

depends on the cd of course

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juski:

wired or wireless network?

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spader3d:

cd is mythbuntu 7.04

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spader3d:

wired network

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spader3d:

lately i installled the frontend from the cd on the machine

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juski:

mythbuntu is still in alpha so I'd not expect sparklinng results

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spader3d:

get the same result

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juski:

bit by reporting the issues to them they can improve things :)

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juski:

s/bit/but

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spader3d:

is there any other livecd with better myth frontend?

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juski:

just use something that isn't alpha, but it'd pay off for everybody if you report the problems you have with mythbuntu

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spader3d:

ok

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HrdwrBoB:

on another note, do you know of a reasonably priced machine capable of 720p decoding (1080 would be great) that's quiet and quick to boot etc? and small?

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juski:

boot time tends to vary a lot depending on the distro used IME

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HrdwrBoB:

yeah

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HrdwrBoB:

but hw boot time as well

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HrdwrBoB:

that I can fix

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HrdwrBoB:

I'm just looking at expanding to about four frontends

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HrdwrBoB:

need to select a standard machine

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juski:

modern machines shouldn't necessarily be slow to boot

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HrdwrBoB:

no

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HrdwrBoB:

but seconds matter

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HrdwrBoB:

when you are dealing with what is effectively an embedded device

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juski:

I don't think any one motherboard is going to wind up even seconds faster than another

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juski:

not these days

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HrdwrBoB:

a pentium m 2+ ghz machine with 512mhz ram and a low end nvidia card would be perfect

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HrdwrBoB:

plenty of grunt, low power, low heat/noise/etc

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juski:

you can discount viiv kit that's for sure

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juski:

and I'd not call 2ghz 'plenty' of grunt

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HrdwrBoB:

plenty for display

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juski:

not for hd

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HrdwrBoB:

they are also dual core at that speed

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** TSCHAK is using a "viiv" Intel 965 based box.. core 2 duo.. 2.13ghz a core. **

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juski:

well if you're talking core2 duo then yeah :)

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HrdwrBoB:

TSCHAK: yeah that's my server, exactly

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HrdwrBoB:

no it's not c2d

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TSCHAK:

HrdwrBoB, the DG965WH ?

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juski:

or I mean not a P4 2ghz :)

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HrdwrBoB:

hahah

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HrdwrBoB:

no

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HrdwrBoB:

pentium m begat core2

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HrdwrBoB:

2ghz p-m >>>> 2ghz p4

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HrdwrBoB:

I have a spare 2.4 p4 which I really have no use for

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HrdwrBoB:

not fast enough for hd

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HrdwrBoB:

TSCHAK: I have the 965P DS3P

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HrdwrBoB:

infact, I have two :) one for my server, 6420, stick, and one on my desktop, 6320@3.01Ghz

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HrdwrBoB:

but for the frontends I'm preferably looking for a semi-purposebuilt machine that's integrated

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HrdwrBoB:

doesn't need any storage to speak of

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toast:

I have a question reguarding my PVR-350+Myth... Would this be an okay place to ask about such stuffs? >.>

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HrdwrBoB:

toast: this would be the place, yes

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toast:

Okee, wanted to make sure.

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juski:

dont go there, that'd be my advice

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toast:

I installed Mythdora4 recently thinking maybe I could save myself some trouble but now I get an annoying frame jitter. >.>

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HrdwrBoB:

I hear that the PVR 350 is .. troublesome

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toast:

Tryied changing bit rates and stuff but it persists. Seems like it's in the recording.

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toast:

yeah kinda...

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juski:

maybe the interlaced fields are being displayed in the wrong order

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juski:

try deinterlacing & see if the problem goes away?

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toast:

It's every 3 seconds about, the image jumps ahead.

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toast:

I'll try now.

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juski:

hmm not that then

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toast:

Mm.

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toast:

I'm just out of ideas, didn't used to happen.

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armbar:

I cannot seem to get sound to play on my remote frontend even though sound works fine through the os.

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armbar:

I am using alsa and an nforce 2

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armbar:

I see error messages in the terminal windows say myth cannot open /dev/dsp.

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armbar:

I am using a pvr-350 without a passthrough cable but I do not believe that is the problem.

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HrdwrBoB:

armbar: could be a permissions problem?

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