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| [00:00:37] | niter3: | it's simply connected via vga on the tv |
| [00:00:50] | niter3: | I think it's DPMS or some option |
| [00:00:53] | niter3: | I can't remember |
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| [00:01:31] | niter3: | or DDC or something |
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| [00:04:25] | niter3: | yes got it |
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| [00:53:54] | poningru: | trying to figure out which card to buy for hdtv atsc-8vsb pci interface dont need mpeg2 encoding on card as my proc is amd64 |
| [00:54:11] | poningru: | any recomendations? |
| [00:59:20] | knowledgejunkie: | poningru: the pchdtv cards are popular in the US – the HD-5500 should be okay |
| [00:59:34] | poningru: | hmm |
| [00:59:36] | poningru: | looking |
| [00:59:52] | juski: | you'd be lucky to find a card that does atsc & has an mpeg2 encoder anyway – if such a card even exists ;) HDTV without exception, always comes ready encoded, whether that be from a PCI card, USB device, firewire or that HDHomerun thing :) |
| [01:00:22] | poningru: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/PcHDTV_HD-5500 this one? |
| [01:00:43] | poningru: | juski: oh doh thats right |
| [01:00:48] | knowledgejunkie: | yep |
| [01:01:03] | poningru: | well I was refering to analog but I see what you mean |
| [01:01:11] | poningru: | I would need this card to do ntsc capture as well |
| [01:01:41] | knowledgejunkie: | poningru: it has an ntsc tuner too (non-hardware encoding) |
| [01:01:48] | juski: | FWIW I'd be tempted to go for separate tuners for those duties |
| [01:02:23] | poningru: | juski: reason? |
| [01:02:42] | juski: | hybrid cards can be a whole mess o hassle, is all IMHO |
| [01:03:01] | knowledgejunkie: | poningru: more flexibility if nothing else |
| [01:03:19] | poningru: | oh hmm |
| [01:03:54] | poningru: | unfortunately this shuttle pc only has 1 pci and 1 agp slot |
| [01:04:02] | poningru: | so cant do two cards |
| [01:04:17] | poningru: | well I can... |
| [01:04:23] | juski: | well you do know that if you go for the hd-5500 card you can't do SD & HD at the same time right... |
| [01:04:25] | poningru: | but it would probably be a tight fit |
| [01:04:41] | poningru: | juski: I cant switch back forth? |
| [01:05:02] | poningru: | and* |
| [01:05:25] | juski: | yes you can, but only do one type at a time |
| [01:05:45] | juski: | so you can't record HDTV & then watch SDTV at the same time |
| [01:05:45] | poningru: | oh meh |
| [01:05:48] | juski: | or vice-versa |
| [01:05:53] | poningru: | right |
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| [01:07:22] | poningru: | I'm assuming that card will work under 2.6.20 |
| [01:09:31] | juski: | it should work well in kernels older than that too :) |
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| [01:09:37] | mikeones: | can you record two sd show at once with the pvr 500? |
| [01:09:45] | juski: | mikeones: yup |
| [01:09:52] | wastrel: | hi what's sd? |
| [01:09:53] | juski: | record/watch |
| [01:09:58] | poningru: | wastrel: standard def |
| [01:10:09] | poningru: | aka normal ntsc/pal |
| [01:10:09] | wastrel: | thx |
| [01:10:23] | mikeones: | the pvr 500 does not record qam right? |
| [01:10:53] | juski: | just analogue SDTV |
| [01:11:19] | mikeones: | :) |
| [01:11:51] | poningru: | gaah I cant believe the fcc would do this |
| [01:12:25] | poningru: | why didnt they go the euro way |
| [01:12:47] | mikeones: | I am toying with the idea of a Nexus-S and f2a in my myth box. |
| [01:15:10] | juski: | the euro way? we don't even have much HDTV yet man |
| [01:16:21] | ben_goodger: | it's great in UK |
| [01:17:00] | ben_goodger: | we have about five HDTV channels, and all are only available with Newscorp's satellite broadcaster for an extra $40 a month or something |
| [01:17:17] | poningru: | juski: dvb |
| [01:17:30] | poningru: | wth |
| [01:17:33] | juski: | DVB isn't all that great believe me |
| [01:17:37] | poningru: | ben_goodger: are you the real ben goodger? |
| [01:17:46] | poningru: | as in used to work on ff ben? |
| [01:17:58] | juski: | so we get 'more' channels than with analogue, but not many of said 'more' channels are really worth having |
| [01:18:01] | ** ben_goodger bangs head on desk ** | |
| [01:18:10] | ben_goodger: | FFS, NO! |
| [01:18:16] | poningru: | huh? |
| [01:18:16] | ben_goodger: | right, that's sorted |
| [01:18:24] | poningru: | rofl |
| [01:18:39] | ben_goodger: | poningru: we only have four channels on analogue terrestrial. |
| [01:19:11] | poningru: | see the reason for dvb-t not being as prevelant as atsc vsb8 here in the US is because the us govt is requiring the channels to upgrade |
| [01:19:15] | poningru: | as in the fcc is forcing them |
| [01:19:23] | ben_goodger: | however, we do not use an utterly shitty colour encoding system with our SDTV, so it looks all right |
| [01:19:35] | poningru: | or else off with their license |
| [01:19:58] | ben_goodger: | heh |
| [01:20:49] | ben_goodger: | I don't think you need much of a license to set up a satellite broadcasting station here, but there are only three prominent TV-proper broadcasters and two of them are public service |
| [01:22:31] | poningru: | well the big difference being that tv business here is actually profitable, what with 2/5 of it being advertz |
| [01:22:40] | poningru: | and then on top of that product placement |
| [01:23:20] | juski: | ben_goodger: we have five channels on analogue terrestrial but in most places the 5th channel is on a different mast & at a lower power so you effectively need 2 aerials :-P |
| [01:23:58] | ben_goodger: | juski: you're in the UK? |
| [01:24:01] | ben_goodger: | juski: I'm in cornwall. we don't get five |
| [01:24:03] | knowledgejunkie: | juski: some people stil deny the existence of five... |
| [01:24:11] | ben_goodger: | as in Channel Five, not 5 |
| [01:24:18] | juski: | lol |
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| [01:24:34] | juski: | granted, you've not long had electricity down there |
| [01:24:48] | ben_goodger: | hey! |
| [01:24:57] | ben_goodger: | my house has had electricity since its construction. |
| [01:25:07] | ben_goodger: | admittedly, we do not have gas or sewage |
| [01:25:11] | juski: | I'm only messin ;) |
| [01:25:26] | knowledgejunkie: | what about thumbs? Is that true? |
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| [01:26:05] | ben_goodger: | I'm from northamptonshire |
| [01:26:33] | ben_goodger: | besides, the inbreeding thing only applies to lower-end plymouthists and people west of truro |
| [01:26:36] | wastrel: | northamptonshire eh... |
| [01:26:39] | knowledgejunkie: | brother of Dave? |
| [01:26:45] | wastrel: | i used to live in northampton, ma usa |
| [01:27:27] | ben_goodger: | ah |
| [01:27:40] | ben_goodger: | I used to live in Rushden, northhants uk |
| [01:27:53] | juski: | a guy I used to work with in Consett CO durham dated my ex, and I've been out with somebody he went out with = found out much much later. small town syndrome :( |
| [01:28:00] | ben_goodger: | we had a northampton near there too, but I suspect it's not as good as yours |
| [01:28:09] | ben_goodger: | however, I do know that our cambridge is better than yours too |
| [01:28:35] | ben_goodger: | but for some inexplicable reason, the self-service checkouts in supermarkets in MA and UK are identical |
| [01:29:31] | juski: | gawd those self service checkouts.. makes you appreciate the skill of the experienced scanner operators lol |
| [01:30:00] | juski: | that said they'd go much faster without the STUPID animations they insist on showing after every item scan.. grrr |
| [01:30:16] | ben_goodger: | they cut them short, you know |
| [01:30:19] | ben_goodger: | if you scan something else |
| [01:30:59] | ben_goodger: | but not if you haven't Placed The Item In Bagging Area, in which case your red light goes on and an attendant bustles over |
| [01:31:01] | juski: | not these ones |
| [01:31:28] | juski: | lus they're not suited to a full weekly shop – bagging area aint big enough |
| [01:31:52] | juski: | they'll get the software right eventually I expect |
| [01:31:56] | wastrel: | cambridge, ma or cambridge, ny |
| [01:31:56] | ben_goodger: | meh |
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| [01:32:02] | ben_goodger: | wastrel: MA. |
| [01:32:16] | wastrel: | cambridge, ny is teeny |
| [01:32:44] | ben_goodger: | actually, I've only seen both in pictures, but I know the one in cambs. is prettier.. plus, this is my weekly assigned jingoism allowance |
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| [01:33:01] | ben_goodger: | UK IS GOOD LOL USA SUX!! etc. |
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| [01:51:55] | Spicerun: | Wow, sure is quiet here. |
| [01:52:17] | wastrel: | all watching TV? |
| [01:52:57] | Spicerun: | Everyone that shook up about zap2it? |
| [01:53:21] | ** mikeones closes eyes ** | |
| [01:53:34] | real_ben_goodger: | we got over that a little over forty seconds after the first wave of idiots came in here yelling about it as if it was news to us |
| [01:53:41] | Spicerun: | ok |
| [01:54:19] | real_ben_goodger: | no offence to you personally :) |
| [01:54:47] | real_ben_goodger: | it's quiet here because many of us are in the UK, and hence either asleep or up at 2:54 AM |
| [01:54:57] | Spicerun: | No, I understand....this is just the first time I've been here since the breaking news, and I was just curious how it was being discussed. |
| [01:55:05] | Spicerun: | sounds like its handled here. |
| [01:55:11] | real_ben_goodger: | and many of the rest are USA visitors, and hence should be at work |
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| [01:56:36] | knowledgejunkie: | Spicerun: go read the -users list archive – hundreds of message about it there |
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| [01:57:19] | knowledgejunkie: | ben_goodger: it's 7pm PST on a Friday |
| [01:57:42] | Spicerun: | knowledgejunkie: Yeah, I've been reading those...a lot of speculation and theories only. |
| [01:57:45] | ben_goodger: | ah, yes, so it is |
| [01:57:56] | ben_goodger: | sorry, I thought it was about three hours earlier |
| [01:58:07] | ben_goodger: | time zones not withstanding |
| [01:58:17] | knowledgejunkie: | Spicerun: wel,, until the 'engagement team' report back there's not much else to say |
| [01:58:23] | Spicerun: | true. |
| [01:59:26] | Spicerun: | Meanwhile I've got a mythtv box waiting for a new motherboard.....I can attest that the SIS chipset really sucks when it comes to the throughput in trying to handle HD. |
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| [02:02:20] | wastrel: | how do i stop a recording program? |
| [02:02:26] | wastrel: | stop the recording |
| [02:03:24] | knowledgejunkie: | wastrel: choose 'Stop Recording' from the menu when you select the program in Watch Recordings |
| [02:04:01] | wastrel: | how do i get the menu? |
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| [02:05:23] | knowledgejunkie: | wastrel: press the menu button or M |
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| [02:05:44] | andyman53: | Hey all |
| [02:06:19] | andyman53: | Apparently when I go to record now all of a sudden, i go through the menus, select the recording, it goes fine, but the episode still says "not recording" |
| [02:06:51] | andyman53: | so it pretty much ignores what I do, but doesn't output any errors |
| [02:07:08] | andyman53: | and i don't know if this is related, but if i try to watch tv, it says its already using all available inputs |
| [02:07:42] | knowledgejunkie: | andyman53: are you wathing LiveTV? If not, restart the backend |
| [02:07:42] | wastrel: | i don't have stop recording in that menu, it's "change group" stuff |
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| [02:07:58] | andyman53: | i've done that, and restarted the computer multiple times |
| [02:08:07] | knowledgejunkie: | wastrel: er, press I or O then |
| [02:08:08] | andyman53: | and i'm not watching live tv, i actually haven't been able to in a while |
| [02:08:25] | andyman53: | recordings always worked though... |
| [02:08:26] | knowledgejunkie: | andyman53: you probably have misconfigured videosources then |
| [02:08:35] | andyman53: | they worked for a while.... |
| [02:08:53] | andyman53: | mythtv-setup? |
| [02:09:14] | knowledgejunkie: | andyman53: yes – might want to set them up afresh |
| [02:11:35] | knowledgejunkie: | wastrel: you can also try pressing the right cursor key when you have the recording highlighted |
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| [02:13:08] | andyman53: | ok.... |
| [02:13:14] | andyman53: | on caputre device on input devices... |
| [02:13:31] | andyman53: | "capture device: [mpeg: /dev/video0 ] Input: could not open ... |
| [02:13:33] | andyman53: | ?? |
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| [02:22:41] | andyman53: | apppaaaaanrelty...........my tuner card quit? |
| [02:22:43] | knowledgejunkie: | andyman53: does it exist? what capture card is it? |
| [02:22:54] | andyman53: | it was always /dev/video0 |
| [02:22:58] | andyman53: | that doesn't exist now.... |
| [02:23:08] | andyman53: | i'm installing fresh for whatever reason. |
| [02:25:28] | knowledgejunkie: | andyman53: might be quicker just to make sure the ivtv driver is loaded (if using a PVR-x50 card) |
| [02:25:37] | andyman53: | ok |
| [02:25:48] | andyman53: | i just yum'd the packages again |
| [02:25:59] | andyman53: | and depmod -a |
| [02:26:02] | andyman53: | then modprobe ivtv |
| [02:26:51] | andyman53: | still no /dev/video0... |
| [02:27:14] | knowledgejunkie: | andyman53: check /var/log/messages |
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| [02:28:13] | livingtm: | Is there a way to get more feedback on the network remote control communiaton? (telnet) |
| [02:29:36] | andyman53: | pastebin... |
| [02:30:06] | andyman53: | knowledgejunkie: http://pastebin.ca/585143 |
| [02:31:17] | knowledgejunkie: | andyman53: nice. what have you upgraded recently – or has this always happened? |
| [02:31:26] | andyman53: | nothing changed |
| [02:31:29] | andyman53: | and this used to work |
| [02:31:42] | andyman53: | i have absolutely no idea why this would happen. |
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| [02:32:28] | mikeones: | andyman53: looks like line 25 shows there is a problem. |
| [02:32:42] | andyman53: | yeah Error -12 on initialization |
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| [02:33:01] | mikeones: | did you upgrade your kernel or ivtv drive lately? |
| [02:33:07] | andyman53: | nope |
| [02:33:09] | knowledgejunkie: | andyman53: pastebin the output of top – have you got enough memory? |
| [02:33:34] | andyman53: | ackkkkk |
| [02:33:44] | andyman53: | 23m free? |
| [02:33:50] | andyman53: | whaaaa? |
| [02:34:48] | andyman53: | http://pastebin.ca/585149 |
| [02:35:25] | andyman53: | apparently some people think that removing power from the machine holds water... |
| [02:35:25] | andyman53: | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_IVTV_Troubleshooting |
| [02:36:01] | knowledgejunkie: | it will let the board lose any info it is retaining if you warm-reset. leave it off for a minute or so |
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| [02:36:50] | andyman53: | we're working with solid state electronics |
| [02:36:54] | andyman53: | in all of my years |
| [02:37:01] | andyman53: | i've never......but i'll give it a shot |
| [02:37:02] | andyman53: | hah |
| [02:37:28] | knowledgejunkie: | andyman53: also, any idea what the zombie process is in top? |
| [02:37:55] | andyman53: | nope... |
| [02:45:29] | andyman53: | its there now? |
| [02:45:37] | andyman53: | O.o |
| [02:46:41] | knowledgejunkie: | andyman53: is what there now? |
| [02:47:01] | andyman53: | it works |
| [02:47:10] | andyman53: | confirm this |
| [02:47:15] | andyman53: | but was there any logic to what i did? |
| [02:47:17] | andyman53: | lol |
| [02:47:47] | knowledgejunkie: | andyman53: caps on the card? |
| [02:47:55] | andyman53: | i guess |
| [02:47:58] | andyman53: | anyways |
| [02:48:00] | andyman53: | thanks a million guys |
| [02:48:03] | andyman53: | have a good night |
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| [02:50:47] | rooaus: | What do people do with recorded tv that they want to keep? |
| [02:51:22] | rooaus: | Like music specials etc, do you leave it in the watch recordings or do something else? |
| [02:52:29] | knowledgejunkie: | rooaus: drop it onto DVD or transcode it |
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| [02:53:13] | rooaus: | I have a lot of music specials and I am worried about them accidentally getting deleted. |
| [02:53:34] | knowledgejunkie: | rooaus: move them to a hidden recording group |
| [02:54:47] | rooaus: | I proposed on the mailing list a "Delete Protect" or similar that would disable deletes from the various dialogues etc. but got the impression it wouldn't be considered for SVN. |
| [02:56:04] | rooaus: | I like the hidden recording group idea, but when you exit the recording or in the delete record screen there would still be an option to delete it though, wouldn't there? |
| [02:57:39] | knowledgejunkie: | showing the Delete option after watching it is an option |
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| [02:58:27] | knowledgejunkie: | ... and the delete recordings screen will do what it states – you shouldn't need to be in there much (I never use it) |
| [02:59:03] | rooaus: | knowledgejunkie: The problem got me thinking about mytharchive... maybe it could be used to "archive to file" in the video folder as a native archive. |
| [02:59:23] | knowledgejunkie: | rooaus: you could do that – then reimport it if you need to |
| [02:59:33] | rooaus: | knowledgejunkie: Then a patch could be written for mythvideo to recognise then recordingname.xml file to get the meta data |
| [03:01:45] | knowledgejunkie: | rooaus: do you just want it out of the recordings list? |
| [03:02:07] | rooaus: | knowledgejunkie: I use the delete option when exiting a recording, I am worried about "force of habit". ESC -> Downx2 -> OK. I lost a recording that way once. |
| [03:03:28] | knowledgejunkie: | the menu that appears when you exit a recording is an option that you can turn off |
| [03:03:54] | rooaus: | knowledgejunkie: I like to be able to view it from the watch recordings, it presents the metadata well etc and is a convenient way to access recorded stuff, although using mythvideo is OK. |
| [03:03:55] | knowledgejunkie: | the menu that you can display when navigating the watch recordings list will always contain the delete option |
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| [03:05:14] | knowledgejunkie: | rooaus: there is a frontend option to display the popup menu when exiting/finishing watching a recording |
| [03:05:44] | rooaus: | knowledgejunkie: My original thought was to add a DeleteProtect field to the recorded programs table and then get the various dialogues to gray out the delete options if DeleteProtect is on. |
| [03:06:49] | rooaus: | The option to set/unset deleteprotect would in the StoarageOptions to toggle it. |
| [03:06:56] | knowledgejunkie: | rooaus: sounds sensible – you'd need a GUI to allow it to be toggled |
| [03:07:08] | knowledgejunkie: | rooaus: sounds good again |
| [03:08:18] | knowledgejunkie: | i think that would be committed |
| [03:09:04] | knowledgejunkie: | you'd probably also want it to disable autoexpire for any items you mark as protected |
| [03:09:09] | rooaus: | knowledgejunkie: I didn't think the idea got a favourable response on the mailing list, most people suggested other ways to achieve a similar outcome, maybe I will test the waters again. |
| [03:09:42] | rooaus: | knowledgejunkie: Yeah, autoexpire would need to account for it, mythweb would also need to honour the flag. |
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| [03:13:52] | knowledgejunkie: | rooaus: reading the thread, whilst it would be useful to have multi-user functionality, I think it would be very useful to have the delete protection *in addition* to the user stuff |
| [03:14:11] | knowledgejunkie: | rooaus: otherwise, who's going to protect the user from themself? |
| [03:15:39] | rooaus: | knowledgejunkie: The multi-user functionality is beyond my C++ skills, but I probably could get this done. |
| [03:17:03] | knowledgejunkie: | rooaus: the SoC stuff has been a general failure across the board – I would look into getting the deletion protection working stably and then attach it to an enhancement ticket |
| [03:17:44] | rooaus: | knowledgejunkie: I can really only test after my wife has gone to bed (only got the single BE/FE), makes for a slow dev cycle. :( |
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| [03:18:23] | rooaus: | My has been declared an "essential service" in our house. |
| [03:18:30] | knowledgejunkie: | rooaus: take as long as you need |
| [03:18:31] | rooaus: | *Myth |
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| [03:21:18] | rooaus: | knowledgejunkie: I might start to have a look at it this weekend... also need to follow up on #3636 |
| [03:25:09] | knowledgejunkie: | rooaus: good luck with it |
| [03:26:26] | rooaus: | knowledgejunkie: Cheers ;) |
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| [04:00:45] | Mike: | hi! |
| [04:01:35] | Mike: | have anybody tried to use a leadtek tv tuner/capture card in ubuntu or kubuntu? |
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| [04:22:57] | mattwj2005: | hi guys |
| [04:23:15] | mattwj2005: | I need some help with a video device....but not with mythtv |
| [04:23:27] | mattwj2005: | any good chatroom for that on freenode? |
| [04:24:01] | mattwj2005: | I want to use my hdhomerun without using mythtv |
| [04:25:06] | mikeones: | why would you want that? |
| [04:26:32] | mattwj2005: | just because scan with mythtv can be a pain |
| [04:27:44] | mattwj2005: | I am trying to get my rabbit ears tuned just right for OTA HDTV |
| [04:29:39] | mattwj2005: | windows comes with a nice little gui that works with vlc |
| [04:29:48] | mattwj2005: | I would love to have something similar for linux |
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| [04:33:55] | media: | I just did a mythtv install on some new hardware (975 chipset with core duo) but whenever I start mythbackend it always jumps to 100% cpu usage. I've tried running without scheduling, housekeeping, jobqueue, etc but that has not helped. Running with -v all also produces no reasons why it would consume 100%. Any ideas? This is my 6th myth box and I've never seen this before. |
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| [04:38:57] | Beirdo: | K. bed. Took many hours chasing a stupid bug... darned atexit() buried in the libsvn library! |
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| [04:47:47] | mattwj2005: | sorry about ripping on mythtv |
| [04:47:58] | mattwj2005: | I am in need of a big ole tv antenna :) |
| [04:48:41] | mikeones: | mythtv works fine for my OTA and rabbit ears |
| [04:48:58] | mattwj2005: | yeah it can...... |
| [04:49:07] | mattwj2005: | I just live in a city with too many stations |
| [04:49:09] | mattwj2005: | :) |
| [04:49:22] | mattwj2005: | and plus I think I am close to the towers |
| [04:49:31] | mattwj2005: | < 10 miles |
| [04:53:38] | mattwj2005: | nothing like healthy radiation :P |
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| [04:57:04] | mattwj2005: | so when will the new software be available to replace zap2it? |
| [04:57:58] | mikeones: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Data_Direct |
| [04:58:38] | mattwj2005: | thank you mike :) |
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| [05:01:24] | mattwj2005: | sweet |
| [05:01:40] | mattwj2005: | I got all the hdtv ota channels to work besides 2 I wanted |
| [05:01:45] | mattwj2005: | oh free time :) |
| [05:01:47] | mattwj2005: | *tv |
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| [05:12:28] | dan__t: | hi. |
| [05:12:51] | dan__t: | So are you guys happy with using 802.11G to stream data? |
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| [05:15:47] | knowledgejunkie: | dan__t: I've had no probs with a single SD client – that's all I've tested |
| [05:15:56] | dan__t: | SD? |
| [05:16:06] | knowledgejunkie: | standard def |
| [05:17:24] | dan__t: | Oh ok, sorry. |
| [05:17:27] | dan__t: | That's all I will be using it for. |
| [05:17:55] | dan__t: | mvpmc makes me excited. |
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| [05:39:55] | mattwj2005: | well it is the weekend |
| [05:46:02] | dan__t: | Beer thirty. |
| [05:46:06] | dan__t: | Well past, anyway. |
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| [08:03:34] | Trentster: | hey all, I am busy setting up a new mythbox, with 2 x leadtek dv100t dvb-t tuners, and running it on an lcd that has a resolution of 1366 x 768 all is working well so far, except the image on the screen is about 20% off centre on the left hand side, anyone have any ideas how I might go about resolving? |
| [08:05:36] | Trentster: | Oh I am using vga out on an nvidia 5200 card |
| [08:06:05] | knowledgejunkie: | xvidtune? |
| [08:09:46] | Trentster: | knowledgejunkie, can u elaborate? |
| [08:10:11] | knowledgejunkie: | you can run xvidtune to 'tune' your X server display |
| [08:10:37] | knowledgejunkie: | this includes the positioning of the image |
| [08:11:39] | Trentster: | knowledgejunkie, thanks, thought it might be a modeline issue |
| [08:12:07] | adante: | Trentster: whats your input to tv? |
| [08:12:08] | knowledgejunkie: | xvidune will allow you to create a 'better' modeline |
| [08:13:06] | knowledgejunkie: | also check whether your TV has any kind of image alignment option |
| [08:14:56] | Trentster: | adante, the tv has vga in, thats what i am using |
| [08:16:37] | Trentster: | Slightly off topic, if i am receiving dvb-t digital broadcasts, i noticed that when there is fast motion i can see little seperated lines on the screen, i assume its got to do with progressive scan, I thought this was not an issue when going from digital to digital? |
| [08:17:38] | adante: | Trentster: ok, um probably want to look at the overscan options.. i believe there is a util to do it in nvidia (although, 20% off centre seems quite extreme) |
| [08:18:30] | adante: | Trentster: as to the lines, unfortunately that is due to interlacing (the digital signal is interlaced) – try some of the de-interlacing options in.. somewhere |
| [08:18:36] | adante: | settings -> playback i think |
| [08:18:39] | knowledgejunkie: | Trentster: you need to deinterlace the stream if your video card cannot sync interlaced output properly with your TV |
| [08:18:43] | Trentster: | adante, I cant find it anywhere in the nvidia-settings looks like it is no longer there... |
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| [08:21:16] | adante: | Trentster: hm, i suggest you ask in the #distro of your choice |
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| [08:23:47] | cybergyp1y: | has anyone else noticed any problems with uk radio stations from astra on mythtv in the last 2 days ? |
| [08:24:32] | cybergyp1y: | i think the audio pid has changed or something |
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| [09:28:53] | juski: | if the audio pid had changed myth would pick that up if you're using > 0.17 |
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| [09:37:52] | meteor-1500: | hi all – anyone here using mythtv with an audigy 2 card? |
| [09:38:20] | Trentster: | hey all, just wondering if an AMD 64 3200 is high spec enough to handle HD digital broadcast I am using a Leadtek dv100t dvb-t tuner and at the moment its seems like the cpu goes up to 100% when just watchimg one channel....and is very choppy......any ideas / recommendations? |
| [09:38:26] | meteor-1500: | i can't seem to get my mixer settings right – atm i've whenever i turn up analog mix on input i get sound looping over the top of itself and gradually building up |
| [09:38:39] | meteor-1500: | if i play an mp3 for instance that loops too |
| [09:38:52] | Dagmar: | Trentstar: There's all sorts of information on the wiki about how to accellerate playback |
| [09:39:10] | Dagmar: | meteor-500: read the instructions for how to install MythTV. |
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| [09:39:23] | Dagmar: | You have your patch cable plugged into the wrong place. |
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| [09:40:47] | meteor-1500: | err no it works fine in tvtime and stuff when i turn on analog mix on output |
| [09:40:54] | meteor-1500: | i've got that muted on output for mythtv |
| [09:41:19] | Dagmar: | Well, you've managed to route the audio into a loop somehow |
| [09:41:45] | meteor-1500: | i think it's because mythtv is turning pcm input up when i go into watch tv mode |
| [09:41:45] | Trentster: | Dagmar, can you be a bit more specific |
| [09:42:09] | Dagmar: | Trentster: No. You're asking me to tell you everything there is about video playback. |
| [09:42:11] | meteor-1500: | if i turn it down manually the loop stops |
| [09:42:27] | Dagmar: | meteor-1500: So don't turn that slider up anymore. |
| [09:42:40] | meteor-1500: | Dagmar: it's doing it automatically when i enter watch tv mode |
| [09:42:56] | Dagmar: | Using what type of tuner card? |
| [09:43:01] | meteor-1500: | saa7134 |
| [09:43:07] | Dagmar: | Who _makes_ it |
| [09:43:17] | Dagmar: | ...as in make/model |
| [09:43:25] | meteor-1500: | lifeview flyvideo 300 |
| [09:44:01] | meteor-1500: | 3000 even |
| [09:44:11] | Dagmar: | So it's a framegrabber card |
| [09:44:18] | meteor-1500: | yeah |
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| [09:44:43] | meteor-1500: | it seems it'd work fine if i could just get mythtv to stop turning up pcm |
| [09:44:43] | Dagmar: | ...which means you're either using a cable to patch it's audio output to your line in, or it should have it's own mixer device |
| [09:44:58] | meteor-1500: | nah cable to patch it into line 2 of the sound card |
| [09:45:04] | Dagmar: | So go into the setup menus in the frontend and change it to control the volume on the Master channel |
| [09:45:08] | Dagmar: | This is in the installtion documentation. |
| [09:45:09] | meteor-1500: | ah ok |
| [09:46:41] | meteor-1500: | ok done, but it's still turned up input pcm |
| [09:47:06] | meteor-1500: | it swapped the volume control from output pcm to output master, but input pcm is still going up to 100% auto |
| [09:48:06] | Dagmar: | Installation... |
| [09:48:08] | Dagmar: | ...documentation. |
| [09:52:42] | Trentster: | Dagmar, I am trying to ascertain if i am having some type of hardware issue, I am not trying to tweak and optomize the system yet, I just want to know if with my hardware I should be able to watch live tv..if the answer is yes then i have a hardware issue. |
| [09:53:05] | Dagmar: | You never mentioned the _important_ part, namely, the type and model of your video card. |
| [09:53:25] | knowledgejunkie: | Trentster: enable xvmc on your 5200 |
| [09:53:32] | Dagmar: | An AGP nVidia 5200 should be able to play back 1080 from a DVD when it's configured properly. |
| [09:54:05] | Trentster: | knowledgejunkie, thanks..is that done in mythfrontend or elsewhere? |
| [09:54:29] | Trentster: | knowledgejunkie, you think my problem might be a hardware problem or an irq issue? |
| [09:54:34] | Dagmar: | Man you'd swear that people think reading documentation makes the penis fall of |
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| [09:55:07] | meteor-1500: | Dagmar: ok i've just been back throught it all again and i'm damned if i can find anything regard input pcm volume |
| [09:55:14] | knowledgejunkie: | Trentster: are you using the nvidia driver? |
| [09:55:17] | Trentster: | Dagmar, what document/ site you want me to read, and ill read it gladly..... |
| [09:55:26] | Trentster: | knowledgejunkie, yes im using nvidia |
| [09:55:45] | meteor-1500: | using the documentation from the website |
| [09:56:20] | knowledgejunkie: | Trentster: and is xvmc working? |
| [09:57:10] | Trentster: | knowledgejunkie, How do i tell if xvnc is working, and where do i check if its enabled...do i enable it under " nvidia-settings or in mythtv itself? |
| [09:59:25] | knowledgejunkie: | Trentster: your X log should mention it, plus you can test with xine and mplayer, in addition to mythtv |
| [09:59:36] | siXy: | Trentster: mplayer -vo xvmc [some file] |
| [09:59:50] | Trentster: | siXy, thanks |
| [10:02:08] | knowledgejunkie: | Trentster: for xine, I think it's xine -V xxmc <filename> |
| [10:02:50] | knowledgejunkie: | Trentster: to check mythtv, start the frontend from a terminal with the '-v important,general,playback' option and look out for XvMC messages |
| [10:06:18] | juski: | Trentster: if you're in the UK & you're gonna be trying to play h.264 HDTV, good luck! |
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| [10:22:44] | juski: | shit! have to get ready for my all-dayer shortly |
| [10:23:01] | jduggan: | all-dayer on the beer? |
| [10:27:49] | Dagmar: | Ecuador... What a tiny little place |
| [10:27:56] | Dagmar: | Why can't American Airlines learn from them |
| [10:28:10] | Dagmar: | I would pay for first class tickets every time if there could be pole dancers |
| [10:28:20] | dan__t: | haha |
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| [10:50:38] | Dagmar: | Would it be wrong to vandalize WikiPedia to say that the office of the Vice President is now a part of the new Maniacal Overlord branch of gov't |
| [10:51:14] | laga: | is that vandalism? |
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| [10:52:17] | Dagmar: | laga: I can probably drive some editors batty with http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Cheney_tells_ag . . . ts_0621.html as justification |
| [10:52:20] | siXy: | Dagmar: funny vandalism is morally excusable |
| [10:55:21] | Dagmar: | Maybe he thinks they're part of the Homeland Security Branch now or something |
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| [11:26:24] | ubuntuEdgy: | hi all |
| [11:26:47] | ubuntuEdgy: | i hope you all having a good day :-D |
| [11:35:37] | hads: | 23:26:47 < ubuntuEdgy> |
| [11:36:15] | ubuntuEdgy: | hi |
| [11:37:28] | ubuntuEdgy: | dose any one ever talk at #vmware |
| [11:39:02] | laga: | i talk at #mythtv-users |
| [11:41:20] | ubuntuEdgy: | any other |
| [11:41:32] | WGwinn: | does the video card of a machine that's used soley as a capture station greatly matter? it's a 64mb nvidia, so im thinking it wouldnt, but i'd like to clarify. |
| [11:41:57] | WGwinn: | does the video card of a machine that's used soley as a capture station greatly matter? it's a 64mb nvidia, so im thinking it wouldnt, but i'd like to clarify. |
| [11:41:57] | ubuntuEdgy: | any other channel you speak at ? |
| [11:42:10] | ubuntuEdgy: | no it wont |
| [11:42:15] | ubuntuEdgy: | i think |
| [11:42:29] | WGwinn: | Sorry, juggling 3 keyboards :) |
| [11:42:32] | laga: | no, it doesn't matter |
| [11:42:37] | laga: | ubuntuEdgy: yes, see /whois laga ;) |
| [11:42:38] | knowledgejunkie: | WGwinn: no, it doesn't, although you typically need X running on the box to run mythtv-setup |
| [11:42:52] | laga: | knowledgejunkie: X forwarding is enough :) |
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| [11:43:47] | WGwinn: | Mistly im trying to decide if mythTV is the right way to go .. considering either a pair of sling boxes or a mythexit |
| [11:43:48] | ubuntuEdgy: | it only says you currently at #mythtv-users |
| [11:44:21] | laga: | ubuntuEdgy: interesting. maybe it's because i'm +s (secret) |
| [11:45:33] | ubuntuEdgy: | interesting. |
| [11:45:42] | ubuntuEdgy: | yo9u going to tell me |
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| [11:46:53] | laga: | heh |
| [11:47:01] | laga: | channels : #mythtv-users #mythtv-de #pclinuxos-de #ubuntu-mythtv #linuxtv #mythtv |
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| [11:49:55] | ubuntuEdgy: | can you tel what channels im in ? |
| [11:51:08] | Dagmar: | | channels : #vmware #mythtv-users #polarbears #ubuntu #MediaPortal #beryl |
| [11:51:38] | ubuntuEdgy: | ahahhha:-D dream on |
| [11:51:55] | ubuntuEdgy: | whats u up 2 dogmar |
| [11:52:04] | ubuntuEdgy: | evry thing ok |
| [11:53:17] | ubuntuEdgy: | can any one help me with vmware |
| [11:54:52] | siXy: | yes. #vmware can |
| [11:56:01] | ubuntuEdgy: | ok thanks |
| [11:56:02] | laga: | their technical support can help you as well |
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| [12:10:46] | ubuntuEdgy: | gona nip out |
| [12:10:54] | ubuntuEdgy: | be back later guys |
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| [12:21:42] | faugusztin: | hello, i'm trying to figure out how to change subtitle code page in MythVideo (using internal player). It is possible ? |
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| [12:31:14] | mike3_: | I'm having a strange problem. the lirc service is installed, but lircmd isn't excepting commands from my remote. Any help would be appreciated |
| [12:31:35] | Dagmar: | The solution is in the lirc documentation in the Troubelshooting section |
| [12:31:43] | mike3_: | Dagmar, =) |
| [12:32:07] | Dagmar: | There's also a big section on how Lirc works in the mythtv wiki |
| [12:32:31] | Dagmar: | Trying to do lirc without reading anything always == TEH FAIL |
| [12:32:38] | Dagmar: | ...so don't expect a lot of sympathy |
| [12:34:21] | mike3_: | Dagmar, lirc is working just fine under mythtv and mplayer. My .lircrc file exists under my home directory. But i guess I will have to read again. |
| [12:34:42] | Dagmar: | s/again//; |
| [12:35:09] | Dagmar: | Hint: lircmd != part of MythTV |
| [12:35:32] | mike3_: | Dagmar, yes I know |
| [12:35:48] | mike3_: | I figured I asked in the channel because there is a majority of people that use it. I'm searching via google now |
| [12:37:59] | Dagmar: | Yeah, because firing blind with a search engine is much more accurate than just looking at the 3–4 documentation files that the lirc people publish. |
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| [12:40:23] | Dagmar: | http://www.lirc.org/html/configure.html <-- contains everything you need |
| [12:41:03] | mike3_: | Dagmar, Firuged it out. I needed irexec loaded |
| [12:41:05] | mike3_: | didn't have it loaded |
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| [12:54:51] | Dagmar: | It would help if you knew the difference between a daemon for executing commands on a button press and the lirc MOUSE DAEMON |
| [12:55:10] | Dagmar: | jeez |
| [12:55:26] | Dagmar: | People need to learn to freaking READ |
| [12:59:12] | faugusztin: | Dagmar: you don't know the answer to my question ? :-) reading subtitles with bad encoding is not very good :P |
| [12:59:38] | Dagmar: | No, I don't _care_ about the answer to your question. |
| [12:59:43] | faugusztin: | :-) |
| [12:59:45] | Dagmar: | There's a subtle but clear difference. |
| [13:00:29] | Dagmar: | My *guess* is that it uses the same codepage as the rest of the system. |
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| [13:11:33] | faugusztin: | well, it looks like internal player have no such option. so i must go in mplayer or xine way... |
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| [13:15:31] | perlmonkey: | hi guys |
| [13:15:47] | Dagmar: | The answer is no. |
| [13:15:57] | perlmonkey: | I haven't even asked yet :P |
| [13:16:17] | Dagmar: | I figure better to just skip over the ask-to-ask phase of things this morning. |
| [13:16:28] | Dagmar: | I've been watching a parade of ignorance for the last two hours. |
| [13:16:32] | Dagmar: | I'm a little jaded. |
| [13:16:33] | perlmonkey: | phew |
| [13:18:29] | Dagmar: | I was starting to catch flak from co-workers for simply saying "The answer is no" the moment they stepped into the office (because invariably it *is* the answer), and so I threw a "probably" in and nearly gave someone a heart attack. |
| [13:19:00] | Dagmar: | "Do we know who owns server such-and-such?" (Of course the answer is no because it's a server we don't colocate) |
| [13:19:14] | perlmonkey: | how come I didn't get a probably ;-) |
| [13:19:21] | Dagmar: | Because the answer to your question was no. |
| [13:19:34] | perlmonkey: | but I never asked any questions |
| [13:19:44] | Dagmar: | Go ahead and try. |
| [13:19:49] | perlmonkey: | ok |
| [13:20:01] | Dagmar: | Ask if there's support for having Myth run arbirary commands from menu entries or somesuch. |
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| [13:21:37] | perlmonkey: | well it's not a question as such, more a request for some pointers, I've just finally got around to trying to setup mythtv again after moving to Ubuntu..and I'm having a problem :-/ whenever I start the frontend it runs mythtv-setup and then X restarts and then it repeats mythtv-setup.. I do have a mysql.txt in my home folder, so I dunno why it's doing that |
| [13:21:54] | laga: | huh? |
| [13:21:57] | laga: | running feisty? |
| [13:22:01] | perlmonkey: | ya |
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| [13:22:46] | faugusztin: | X restarts = crashes ? |
| [13:23:24] | Dagmar: | Starting the frontend doesn't normally result in Mythtv-setup running |
| [13:23:26] | perlmonkey: | I'm not sure if it's a crash or intentionally restart, but that used to happen before (when I had a working Mythtv setup under Debian) anytime I made any adjustments to appearance settings |
| [13:23:33] | perlmonkey: | true |
| [13:23:36] | Dagmar: | This might be something to ask the wackos in #Ubuntu about |
| [13:24:05] | perlmonkey: | ok |
| [13:25:14] | laga: | perlmonkey: ask in #ubuntu-mythtv |
| [13:25:23] | perlmonkey: | ah thanks |
| [13:25:31] | laga: | perlmonkey: superm1 should be awake in a few hours |
| [13:25:33] | Dagmar: | Something "clever" they did is probably breaking |
| [13:25:42] | perlmonkey: | :-/ |
| [13:27:24] | Dagmar: | This is why "clever" is bad in system-architecture. |
| [13:28:53] | perlmonkey: | I think I found a guide which may give some answers |
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| [14:26:08] | my2keh: | hey my root parition is full |
| [14:26:15] | my2keh: | and X can't write to /tmp |
| [14:26:18] | my2keh: | how do I fix? |
| [14:26:23] | my2keh: | I tried an apt-get clean |
| [14:29:58] | laga: | delete something? |
| [14:30:29] | my2keh: | I know, but WHERE |
| [14:30:40] | my2keh: | isn't everything in the root partition? |
| [14:30:43] | my2keh: | I cleared out /tmp |
| [14:30:45] | my2keh: | but not change |
| [14:31:04] | faugusztin: | my2keh: well, something on root partition ? :-) |
| [14:31:05] | Dagmar: | deleting everything in / would do it |
| [14:31:19] | faugusztin: | Dagmar: lol, you really have a bad day :-) |
| [14:31:25] | my2keh: | lol |
| [14:31:36] | Dagmar: | If someone goes and deletes their whole filesystem from me saying that, they deserve what they get |
| [14:31:52] | my2keh: | SHIT! |
| [14:31:56] | my2keh: | ha just kidding :P |
| [14:32:09] | faugusztin: | my2keh: well, try to look what directories do you have on root partition |
| [14:32:15] | faugusztin: | and then du is your friend :-) |
| [14:32:35] | my2keh: | yeah, I'm doing du -h right now |
| [14:32:58] | Dagmar: | How about `du -s /*` |
| [14:33:21] | Dagmar: | Generally a bit more useful to narrow it down to a few things rather than 4,000 lines |
| [14:34:17] | my2keh: | I don't get how / can be 100% full, but /myth is only 40% |
| [14:34:30] | Dagmar: | Because / and /myth are different filesystems |
| [14:34:32] | laga: | my2keh: it's prolly /var/log/ |
| [14:35:12] | my2keh: | lots of stuff in /var/log/mysql |
| [14:35:16] | my2keh: | can I just delete |
| [14:35:18] | my2keh: | 1.4 G? |
| [14:36:13] | my2keh: | since it's just logs? |
| [14:36:41] | laga: | is it *bin* files? |
| [14:36:41] | my2keh: | thye are binary, can't even read them heh |
| [14:36:47] | my2keh: | yes |
| [14:36:52] | my2keh: | mysql-bin.000098 |
| [14:36:55] | my2keh: | for example |
| [14:37:47] | laga: | i think you can delete them |
| [14:38:18] | laga: | and disable bin logging in /etc/mysql/my.cnf |
| [14:39:34] | my2keh: | yeah that was my next question heh |
| [14:39:38] | my2keh: | down to 74% |
| [14:39:39] | my2keh: | woohoo |
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| [14:40:50] | my2keh: | thanks dude! |
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| [14:57:47] | waagbo: | Hi, I've got some trouble with the Norwegian program guide. Anyone able to help me out? |
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| [16:29:43] | Beirdo: | it badly needed a code upgrade :) and the channel is otherwise idle, so... |
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| [16:30:30] | Dagmar: | Will it now spam people who join the channel with a message along the lines of "THERE IS NO NEW ZAP2IT NEWS SO DON'T ASK"? |
| [16:30:38] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:30:39] | Beirdo: | no |
| [16:30:42] | Beirdo: | I leave that to you |
| [16:30:42] | Dagmar: | ...cuz that would be useful |
| [16:30:53] | Dagmar: | I'm on it. |
| [16:31:09] | Beirdo: | did they make an "official" statement on mythtv.org yet? |
| [16:31:25] | Dagmar: | Not that I noticed |
| [16:31:32] | laga: | no |
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| [17:15:03] | RyeBrye: | I put myself on the watch list for the wiki page dealing with data direct stuff so I will get notified when there is an update... (assuming they update that page when there is an update, of course) |
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| [17:25:21] | kristok: | i have an fc4 box that im upgrading to f7. do i need to do anything special for the mysql 4.1->5 upgrade? |
| [17:25:44] | Dagmar: | You mean other than the usual stuff you do to migrate between major versions of MySQL? |
| [17:26:11] | kristok: | i don't even know what the "usual" stuff would be |
| [17:26:18] | Dagmar: | Google FTW |
| [17:26:21] | kristok: | i was hoping i could just copy /var/lib/mysql :-) |
| [17:27:30] | Dagmar: | If you like watching it melt |
| [17:27:33] | Dagmar: | http://www.google.com/search?q=upgrading+mysql |
| [17:27:47] | Dagmar: | Pretty much bound to be the first hit |
| [17:28:53] | kristok: | yeah, i beat you to it. i didn't know if there were any gotchas with the myth database that i should know about |
| [17:29:08] | Dagmar: | Their number is probably legion |
| [17:29:21] | Dagmar: | I sure as hell wouldn't trust the permissions tables to be binary-compatible between major releases. |
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| [17:29:58] | Dagmar: | I usually just use mysqldump to splatter the data out into flat files, recreate the permissions stuff in the new db, and then just feed those flat files to mysql |
| [17:30:14] | Dagmar: | ...but that's not exactly a kosher or guaranteed thing to do |
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| [17:43:34] | dburr: | Does anyone know a wya to replace the active playlist using MythMusic? |
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| [18:17:16] | do_kev: | hey guys.. when I try to "watch tv" on my newly setup (but still not functioning) mythtv box, I get the message: "Error: could not find suitable XVideo surface" |
| [18:17:32] | do_kev: | anybody have any thoughts? |
| [18:17:43] | xris: | do_kev: weird. sounds like you don't have xv compiled in properly or enabled |
| [18:17:57] | laga: | sounds like Xv is broken in your video driver |
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| [18:19:11] | do_kev: | hrm.. sorry for my newbie questions. I had never seen anything about xv.. I was following the guides I found online. |
| [18:19:21] | do_kev: | thanks guys. I'm emerging xv now.. we'll see if that helps! |
| [18:21:07] | xris: | do_kev: you may have to recompile x and mythtv... not quite sure how that all works |
| [18:21:14] | xris: | it's usually just installed |
| [18:21:37] | xris: | gentoo is not reallly the best distro for newbies.... |
| [18:21:46] | laga: | do_kev: "xv2 is an image viewer, AFAIK. i was referring to "xvideo" |
| [18:21:57] | xris: | though it's a really good way to learn the internals of linux.. can be frustrating, though |
| [18:22:38] | do_kev: | yeah.. I've been in for some frustration since the start. It's why I picked it though, was because it seemed like a good educational distribution. |
| [18:23:03] | do_kev: | this is the first problem I've actually had to ask for help on though.. the documentation online has been awesome. |
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| [18:25:28] | dburr: | do_kev: If you've added "xv" to your USE flags, do a emerge -N world |
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| [18:25:50] | do_kev: | will do. Thanks! |
| [18:26:34] | dburr: | do_kev: But before you do that, do emerge -N -p world to make sure that it's not going to build a tonne of unrelated packages |
| [18:27:46] | do_kev: | hm, it seems to be building a good number, but if it's what needs to be done, I don't mind waiting. |
| [18:28:52] | dburr: | do_kev: There could conceivably be a whole bunch of unrelated packages that require xv, that's all. If you're the impatient type (I know I am), you can just rebulid the mythtv stuff and rebuild the rest overnight |
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| [18:44:09] | do_kev: | ah, gotcha. It does seem to be getting a lot, but I have enough to do to keep myself busy while this builds. Thanks for all the help guys! |
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| [18:56:06] | zo0m: | i just cant get this hdhomerun working :( |
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| [18:59:50] | zo0m: | when i try to do a channel scan with latest -fixes, the output from mythtv-setup seems to indicate its finding the channels |
| [19:00:02] | zo0m: | but on the gui, in mythtv-setup, it says time out no tables found |
| [19:00:08] | zo0m: | i pasted the output from mythtv-setup here: |
| [19:00:10] | zo0m: | http://pastebin.ca/586265 |
| [19:00:14] | zo0m: | maybe someone has an idea ;/ |
| [19:00:29] | zo0m: | tried deleteing all the channels from lineups and rescanning, nadda |
| [19:00:41] | zo0m: | its like they're not able to be added to the db or something |
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| [19:50:03] | GlemSom: | How do you guys go around having a DVD and xvid compatible box? I would like to be able to put a DVD in the drive – and press play (that works out of the box – with MythDVD). But what about playing xvid/divx/mpeg files located on a DVD/CD ? |
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| [19:53:00] | ben_goodger: | you'd need to go to mythvideo for that, and browse to /mnt/media/cdrom |
| [19:53:06] | ben_goodger: | or whichever mountpoint |
| [19:56:53] | GlemSom: | hmm – it would be nice to get some sort of "menu".. Like you get on a regular DVD player... |
| [19:58:02] | GlemSom: | It would be possible to write a script that can mount the device – and determine if it's a DVD og a DVD packed with xvids and stuff... |
| [19:58:34] | GlemSom: | And it's easy to launch a DVD player like mplayer og xine then – but I still don't know what to do about DVD's containing video files... /: |
| [19:58:53] | GreyFoxx: | normally one would mount them, then access the files just like on adrive |
| [19:59:10] | GreyFoxx: | or use automount to auto mount the drive when it's popped into the drive |
| [20:02:30] | GlemSom: | then one would have to goto configuration -> movie option.. (To refresh the list) And then back to medialibrary ? (Sorry – don't know it that's exactly what it's called in english... I use a Danish locale) |
| [20:02:55] | GreyFoxx: | You don't have to import them with the Video Manager |
| [20:03:04] | GreyFoxx: | If you configure mythvideo to browse the filesystem |
| [20:03:18] | GreyFoxx: | just include the place you automount as part of where mythvideo browses |
| [20:07:00] | GlemSom: | GreyFoxx, hmm that sounds nice... I'll have to look into that... Thanks! :) |
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| [20:09:55] | zo0m: | cant get this hdhomerun working right. when it channel scans and it finds channels there are errors spit out in the mythtv-setup log, dunno what they're from |
| [20:10:04] | zo0m: | i made a pastebin of the output |
| [20:10:06] | zo0m: | http://pastebin.ca/586265 |
| [20:10:12] | zo0m: | any input greatly appreciated |
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| [20:30:51] | SiD3WiNDR: | at the risk of a stupid question, I still can't get "watch videos" to list my stored movies; I just get no files found |
| [20:31:06] | SiD3WiNDR: | I tried stracing the frontend but didn't see it making any attempt at listing the directory i've configured either |
| [20:31:13] | SiD3WiNDR: | did see a select query to the database though |
| [20:31:26] | SiD3WiNDR: | does it list only the movie stuff that's in the db? and not just the avi's stored somewhere? |
| [20:31:28] | Pryon: | Did you update the video database? |
| [20:32:09] | SiD3WiNDR: | harr, I guess I didn't |
| [20:32:20] | SiD3WiNDR: | so I guess I was right, uses database instead of filesystem |
| [20:32:29] | Pryon: | yup |
| [20:32:47] | SiD3WiNDR: | how do I do that then? |
| [20:32:59] | SiD3WiNDR: | mythfilldatabase seems to be for xmltv data only |
| [20:32:59] | Pryon: | setup->video manager |
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| [20:33:39] | ** SiD3WiNDR oogles ** | |
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| [20:36:07] | SiD3WiNDR: | INFO – Action menu |
| [20:36:16] | petre: | got some newbie questions regarding my pvr500: It's got 2 tuners--can they both be fed by a single input, say, an antenna? |
| [20:36:18] | SiD3WiNDR: | call me stupid but which keyboard button is the info button :/ |
| [20:36:31] | SiD3WiNDR: | petre: yes, there is one physical connector on the card |
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| [20:37:21] | petre: | but there's also composite video/audio inputs; could I tie one tuner to the antenna, the other to the composite? |
| [20:37:58] | SiD3WiNDR: | a "tuner" afaik is just for antenna/cable, composite is just composite |
| [20:38:01] | SiD3WiNDR: | but don't quote me on that |
| [20:38:22] | petre: | oh, sure, that makes sense now that you say it |
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| [20:38:52] | SiD3WiNDR: | what makes me unsure about that statement is that the way I say it it sounds like you can use 2 tuners AND another composite as well, and I'm not sure you can |
| [20:38:58] | SiD3WiNDR: | I have such a card but I'm still setting it all up |
| [20:39:14] | laga: | SiD3WiNDR: info button might be "i", see keys.txt |
| [20:39:35] | SiD3WiNDR: | "i" doesn't do much, first I tried |
| [20:39:41] | petre: | well, I just got mine yesterday and am not quite grokking what all the various pieces do |
| [20:39:56] | laga: | petre: www.ivtvdriver.org has lots of good information |
| [20:40:01] | laga: | i've got to go, cya tomorrow |
| [20:40:11] | SiD3WiNDR: | thanks for the keys.txt tip, has way more info than http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-11.html :) |
| [20:40:33] | petre: | tx laga |
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| [20:49:36] | petre: | really basic question: what's the difference between a video source and an input connection? |
| [20:50:15] | petre: | under input connections I see both video0 and video1, which are my two tuners |
| [20:51:13] | petre: | do I set Tuner1 for each to the Antenna video source I setup earlier? |
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| [21:04:35] | midav: | I'm watching HD broadcast on Apple TV from Dishnetwork running latest svn build compiled on x86 hackintosh |
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| [21:15:49] | dan__t: | how's it look, midav |
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| [21:30:18] | petre: | I'm getting an error I don't understand: "Card 0 is set to start on channel 2 which does not exist." But channel 2 does exist. |
| [21:30:24] | petre: | What does this mean? |
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| [21:43:30] | midav: | dan__t: looks good for HBO and SHOWTIME, discovery is iffy for some reason it's sticking, BEV is sticking too but their stream is a lot more internsive than Dish |
| [21:44:09] | midav: | petre: you sure that the channel does exist on that tuner? |
| [21:44:52] | dan__t: | ah. |
| [21:45:30] | midav: | dan__t: i'm amazed that HD works though |
| [21:45:43] | midav: | I'm thinking about upgrading the memory to 512 |
| [21:45:58] | dan__t: | heh |
| [21:45:59] | midav: | i got enough equipment to desolder and solder a new chip(s) |
| [21:46:43] | midav: | it even works over wifi |
| [21:47:37] | midav: | 3 weeks of work paid off. finally having no mac caused a serious delay |
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| [22:55:54] | SiD3WiNDR: | Pryon: okay, got a bit sidetracked, but now I indeed have my movies in the video list – thanks! |
| [22:56:18] | SiD3WiNDR: | is there a way to automate the update of the database ? or do I really have to enter video manager when I add new movies to that storage directory :( |
| [22:56:30] | SiD3WiNDR: | also, is imdb data broken since imdb redesign? or do I have another problem |
| [22:56:50] | GreyFoxx: | SiD3WiNDR: Automate no, but you can tell mythvideo to browse the FS as well as use the db metadata |
| [22:57:38] | SiD3WiNDR: | ahh |
| [22:57:45] | SiD3WiNDR: | I guess that would be good too |
| [22:57:54] | SiD3WiNDR: | though a daily update would maybe be a nice feature? |
| [22:58:06] | SiD3WiNDR: | GreyFoxx: is that option available through the setup dialogs? |
| [22:59:05] | hads: | You can cron the find_meta.py script |
| [22:59:27] | kormoc: | SiD3WiNDR, also the mythweb video interface in trunk can also scan, and can be added to cron or the like |
| [22:59:40] | SiD3WiNDR: | hads: that's the sort of thing I'm looking for :) |
| [23:00:13] | hads: | You'll find it in the scripts directory of mythvideo in trunk, I think it works for 0.20 |
| [23:00:26] | SiD3WiNDR: | but I don't have that file, probably because I'm running the debian package ;/ |
| [23:00:29] | SiD3WiNDR: | aha. :] |
| [23:00:32] | SiD3WiNDR: | trunk seems to be the place to be |
| [23:00:40] | clever: | Error at /home/mythtv/mythtvbuild/mythplugins/mythweb/includes/mythbackend.php, line 172: |
| [23:00:44] | clever: | Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION 'MYTH_PROTO_VERSION 34': |
| [23:00:46] | clever: | mythweb is crashing again |
| [23:01:31] | kormoc: | clever, first of all, you've been told what that error means so stop asking bout it in here, second, update all myth components in sync |
| [23:01:48] | kormoc: | and third, it's not crashing, it's giving an error and exiting |
| [23:01:54] | kormoc: | as is proper |
| [23:02:05] | clever: | kormoc: and 4th why does rebooting the backend fix it for a short while? |
| [23:02:21] | clever: | once i reboot the backend it stops complaining |
| [23:02:24] | hads: | Is there any way that the ffmpeg sync could have caused issues with crossing program boundries in livetv? It's the only commit I can see that is related. |
| [23:02:27] | clever: | making it seem like they are all the same version |
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| [23:02:31] | kormoc: | clever, because it updates the db schema to the one you last updated to |
| [23:02:43] | clever: | then why does it crash again after a random delay? |
| [23:02:47] | SiD3WiNDR: | I just tried to update imdb.pl as per the wiki so i've now got the trunk version, but mythvideo is still not showing any imdb data, all unknown :( |
| [23:02:50] | SiD3WiNDR: | anything else I missed? |
| [23:02:52] | clever: | without any svn updates? |
| [23:03:02] | kormoc: | clever, cause your db is corrupt? it's not a mythweb issue tho |
| [23:03:22] | clever: | what part of the db is corupt? |
| [23:03:38] | kormoc: | clever, perhaps the settings table, the one that stores the db schema version |
| [23:03:51] | clever: | . |
| [23:04:00] | clever: | | mythconverg.settings | check | status | OK | |
| [23:04:02] | kormoc: | whatever it is, it's *not* mythweb *crashing* |
| [23:04:15] | clever: | yeah its not realy mythweb since the frontends also complain |
| [23:04:19] | clever: | i think its actualy the backend |
| [23:04:45] | clever: | and acording to 'check table settings' the table is fine |
| [23:05:10] | kormoc: | then it's the backend itself getting confused, recompile it or update it |
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| [23:05:39] | clever: | i'll svn update/configure/makecleanmake |
| [23:08:41] | clever: | make started |
| [23:09:02] | kormoc: | also make sure you don't have more then one version of myth installed |
| [23:09:39] | clever: | the package version was uninstalled ages ago and im just doing svn update;make;make install over the slightly older rev |
| [23:10:21] | kormoc: | that can leave orphan files... |
| [23:10:39] | clever: | parts of slightly older rev's that arent needed anymore? |
| [23:10:46] | kormoc: | yes |
| [23:11:00] | clever: | id think id need to make uninstall those before i svn update |
| [23:11:07] | clever: | or the new makefile wont think to remove them |
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| [23:11:16] | kormoc: | for each older revision, yes |
| [23:11:19] | clever: | which would leave me without any working backend till i can rebuild it |
| [23:11:23] | Dagmar: | THe new makefile won't remove them with make uninstall, either. |
| [23:11:38] | Dagmar: | ^^^ |
| [23:11:51] | clever: | what harm can those files do though? |
| [23:12:02] | Dagmar: | suck down all your disk space |
| [23:12:02] | Honk: | are there any explanations for the plugin-ui.xml files? possible parameters for textareas e.g.? |
| [23:12:07] | clever: | enless some1 forgot to clean up internal references to them |
| [23:12:11] | Dagmar: | Honk: HAHAHAHAHA |
| [23:12:19] | Honk: | thought so :/ |
| [23:12:31] | kormoc: | clever, the dynamic loading stuff might cause weird isssues |
| [23:12:31] | clever: | Dagmar: i have a gig free atleast so it doesnt reayl bother me much |
| [23:12:35] | Dagmar: | I and others have put a buncha stuff on the wiki, but it's far from complete |
| [23:12:51] | Dagmar: | Break out yer machete and get ready to dig through some deep weeds |
| [23:13:17] | Honk: | Dagmar: i found lots of general info about what to do |
| [23:13:30] | Honk: | but nothing describing the "api" of that xml stuff really |
| [23:13:37] | Honk: | did i miss something? |
| [23:13:57] | SiD3WiNDR: | harr |
| [23:14:01] | SiD3WiNDR: | MythTV.py is broken :( |
| [23:14:06] | SiD3WiNDR: | self.db = MySQLdb.connect(user=db_user, host=db_host, passwd=db_password, db="mythconverg") |
| [23:14:10] | Dagmar: | honk; THat's even funnier |
| [23:14:20] | SiD3WiNDR: | my database is mythtv not mythconverg |
| [23:14:26] | SiD3WiNDR: | the joys of nonstandardness |
| [23:14:35] | clever: | the db name is stored in mysql.txt |
| [23:14:42] | SiD3WiNDR: | yes, but MythTV.py is not reading it |
| [23:14:42] | Dagmar: | SiD3WiNDR: Do they still wear bell bottoms in the time you came from? |
| [23:14:52] | kormoc: | SiD3WiNDR, so submit a bug |
| [23:14:52] | SiD3WiNDR: | what's a bell bottom? |
| [23:14:56] | SiD3WiNDR: | kormoc: on it, with patch |
| [23:15:06] | Dagmar: | Pants that were popular in the early 70's |
| [23:15:15] | Dagmar: | Did you just upgrade from version 0.03? |
| [23:15:25] | SiD3WiNDR: | why? |
| [23:15:26] | kormoc: | it's been mythconverg from day one I believe |
| [23:15:38] | Dagmar: | Wow so who decided to change it on your install? |
| [23:15:42] | Dagmar: | or why? |
| [23:15:43] | SiD3WiNDR: | I did? |
| [23:15:46] | SiD3WiNDR: | why not? |
| [23:15:50] | Honk: | gah, 24h d/c |
| [23:15:52] | Honk: | <Dagmar> honk; THat's even funnier <-- did you say anything else? |
| [23:15:58] | Dagmar: | Honk: nope |
| [23:16:05] | SiD3WiNDR: | if you don't want it customizable, don't make it an option |
| [23:16:07] | Dagmar: | Well... |
| [23:16:18] | Dagmar: | Looking at the current issue, maybe to avoid breaking things? |
| [23:16:24] | Honk: | mhh.. what's so funny about that? my wiki search skills? :] |
| [23:16:38] | Dagmar: | Honk: No, you expect documentation on the XML bits. Tee hee |
| [23:16:44] | SiD3WiNDR: | Dagmar: well, that's not my fault ;) |
| [23:16:47] | hads: | SiD3WiNDR: Yeah, that is a bug, Anduin is the one to talk to to commit a patch for it, he will pick it up from trac |
| [23:16:50] | Honk: | dammit, i was trying to keep my hopes up :] |
| [23:16:51] | Dagmar: | There's exactly zero of that unless it's wedged in the source code as comments I didn't look at |
| [23:17:15] | Honk: | that's about the same amount of docs i found so far :] |
| [23:17:20] | Dagmar: | Mainly I just trust that the good XML fairies will keep the bad XML fairies at bay |
| [23:17:38] | hads: | SiD3WiNDR: I believe he has some changes to commit to that area soon |
| [23:17:49] | Honk: | there are some (just a tiny few) comments in some of the themes :] |
| [23:18:48] | Dagmar: | See, mainly we figure the guy who wrote Mepo-wide didn't write it |
| [23:19:01] | Dagmar: | He has a time machine that lets him checkout future revisions of the SVN |
| [23:19:17] | Dagmar: | Stuff that was written *after* everything was carefully documented |
| [23:19:49] | clever: | bbl |
| [23:20:05] | Honk: | you're assuming that stuff will ever get documented? |
| [23:20:24] | kormoc: | before the heatdeath of the universe, sure |
| [23:21:12] | kormoc: | Carefully documented even, sure |
| [23:21:18] | kormoc: | correct... now that's another story |
| [23:21:42] | Honk: | by those monkeys on their typewriters, right? |
| [23:22:07] | SiD3WiNDR: | hads: script seems to work now :D |
| [23:22:24] | SiD3WiNDR: | thanks |
| [23:23:01] | hads: | Hmm, there appears to be two bugs open related to livetv hangs when switching programs, odd that it's only just appeared for me. |
| [23:23:25] | Dagmar: | Ack. I forgot to file mine |
| [23:23:27] | hads: | SiD3WiNDR: Cool, I find it useful too :) |
| [23:23:57] | SiD3WiNDR: | now, when I have my video list and select one, I don't get any imdb info, it's all unknown |
| [23:24:02] | SiD3WiNDR: | any tips on how to fix that? |
| [23:25:40] | hads: | Probably your imdb script that you are using is broken. I use the imdbpy one from the same place and it works great. I believe the perl one in trunk has been updated too. |
| [23:26:45] | SiD3WiNDR: | I fetched the perl one |
| [23:27:06] | SiD3WiNDR: | does that data come from the database, or does the frontend fetch it live when you select the movie? |
| [23:27:22] | SiD3WiNDR: | in the first case I'd think it would be filled out by imdbpy, in the second by imdb.pl ? |
| [23:27:25] | SiD3WiNDR: | [or something] |
| [23:27:26] | Dagmar: | pThat would definitely make imdb good and angry |
| [23:27:36] | SiD3WiNDR: | the latter you mean? |
| [23:28:04] | SiD3WiNDR: | or rather hmm |
| [23:28:13] | SiD3WiNDR: | fetching x * 100 movies on every database update ;) |
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| [23:28:20] | meteor-1500: | hi all |
| [23:28:34] | Dagmar: | Fetching over and over just because someone flips through their collection |
| [23:29:15] | meteor-1500: | got a slight problem with changing channels, the docs say the channel change buttons are up and down, but when i get the time come up on osd and "Adding char unknown" |
| [23:29:19] | SiD3WiNDR: | well, without mythtv I'm flipping through my collection and typing it in manually ;) |
| [23:29:36] | SiD3WiNDR: | so the data is filled out upon "update" of the database then |
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| [23:31:13] | meteor-1500: | got rid of the input pcm level issue by turning off all of mythtv's volume control stuff |
| [23:31:22] | meteor-1500: | that's just a workaround |
| [23:31:24] | SiD3WiNDR: | ok, I see the structure in the database but it's all empty |
| [23:31:39] | ** SiD3WiNDR looks angrily at his frontend box in hope it will listen ** | |
| [23:31:48] | absd: | Does anyone know off-hand what mpeg4 library mythtv uses for internal transcoding? |
| [23:32:19] | Dagmar: | ldd `whereis mythtranscode` |
| [23:32:42] | kormoc: | absd, all of myth uses libavcodec |
| [23:33:11] | Dagmar: | koojoo: What, you mean like the second page of `man crontab`? |
| [23:33:27] | absd: | Dagmar: it's not linked against anything I recognise as an mpeg4 library |
| [23:33:36] | Honk: | mhh.. should a managedtreelist show up w/o code backing it? |
| [23:33:48] | Honk: | (with just the xml part being done) |
| [23:34:02] | GreyFoxx: | Honk: I doubt it |
| [23:34:20] | Honk: | mhh |
| [23:34:26] | kormoc: | Dagmar, likely wrong channel there bud |
| [23:34:33] | Dagmar: | kormoc: Yeah |
| [23:34:47] | Dagmar: | Intense blasts of stupid always make me type into the wrong window out of shock |
| [23:35:33] | SiD3WiNDR: | okido, seem to have that working; needed to specify -o for find_meta because of broken data committed already in db |
| [23:35:47] | GreyFoxx: | ahhh the joys of being at work on a Saturday night restoring a machine from backups |
| [23:36:16] | kormoc: | absd, given I already answered your question, repeating it in #mythtv isn't likely going to give you any different answers... |
| [23:37:18] | Honk: | gah, this is gonna make my head explode |
| [23:37:19] | Honk: | i know it |
| [23:37:32] | absd: | kormoc: yeh, I acutally asked it there first, and waited a bit, got no answer, and asked it here since there was some traffic.... Not trying to annoy anyone :) |
| [23:37:35] | meteor-1500: | can anyone tell me what the key for changing channels while watching live tv is? |
| [23:37:41] | meteor-1500: | up down doesn't seem to do it for me |
| [23:38:00] | kormoc: | meteor-1500, check keys.txt |
| [23:38:06] | meteor-1500: | ah thanks |
| [23:40:24] | meteor-1500: | ok checked those and the keys it says don't work for me, tried the number keys and it just puts said number on the osd |
| [23:40:42] | kormoc: | after typing the number did you press enter? |
| [23:40:44] | kormoc: | or space? |
| [23:41:08] | meteor-1500: | yeah just tried with enter or space |
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| [23:45:00] | meteor-1500: | other programs can change channels ok so i'm not sure what's happening with that |
| [23:45:04] | SiD3WiNDR: | UnicodeEncodeError: 'latin-1' codec can't encode characters in position 441–450: ordinal not in range(256) |
| [23:45:16] | SiD3WiNDR: | can mythtv handle utf8 database instead of latin-1 ? |
| [23:46:31] | SiD3WiNDR: | I guess I'll find out |
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