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Saturday, May 19th, 2007, 00:00 UTC

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MaverickTech:

dumb question of the hour, for a point : can you crete/make chapter makers in recordings?

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MaverickTech:

I have a few concert recrdings, and would like to make the songs

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kash:

i wonder why people keep insisting that their question is dumb

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kash:

, and then continue to ask

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kash:

m, ,km,,m.,,; ,',

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gwreddragon:

my question wasn't dumb

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kash:

18:58:43 < MaverickTech> dumb question of the hour, for a point : can you crete/make chapter makers in recordings?

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gwreddragon:

Yes, I know

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kash:

just my $0.03, but you could use a tuner script to control the box via firewire

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MaverickTech:

kash: failed attempt at humour

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kash:

:)

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VladimirBG:

hi all

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VladimirBG:

might I bother someone with questions about mythTV features?

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VladimirBG:

does mythTV have the ability to rip audio CDs and video DVDs?

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kash:

yes

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mark487:

hi, i have mythdora on one hd now. I'm adding a large hd for recordings and wanna keep os/apps on 1st hd. Anyone know if mythdora's installer will support this? (and will it move the existing recordings over & keep database working ok?)

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BummyGears:

Alrighty, I guess I stumped the panel...... And now for a 20 point toss up.......

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gaspipe1:

hey

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andr3www:

hi

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andr3www:

I just installed MythTV to watch ATSC and its really slow, like 10 fps

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andr3www:

I noticed it kinda got worse after I used ATI's drivers

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hadees:

damn it is hard to find a quiet heat sink that is only 2U, they are all made for servers. Anyone know one for a 939 socket?

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hads:

ew ATI

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andr3www:

I doubt its my hardware

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andr3www:

i have a AMD64 3500+, 1GB of RAM, plenty of HD space, ATI Radeon 9800 & ATI HDTV Wonder

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hads:

ew ATI

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andr3www:

great

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andr3www:

can anyone offer some help to get ATSC to stop being so choppy when I watch?

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kash:

get a better card

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kash:

and enable deinterlacing

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scott:

juuva: ping

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atrus:

any way to toggle mythfrontend between fullscreen/windowed while watching?

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rikstah:

nope

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barmymatt:

Hi all. I've searched around a little – can't find the answer I need. I have 2 machines: 1 running front+masterbackend, the other a frontend. I'm finding that the contents of the media library is different on each frontend. Can anyone point me in the rigt direction please?

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Dagmar:

Frontends only "see" the local files

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Dagmar:

If you want to fix that, use NFS or something to mount the files on the remote machine from the frontend so that the appear to be in the same place on both machines

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barmymatt:

Cheer Dagmar. (I'm a farly new user. ie. Not quite sure how you mean...)... but all the recordings are stored in the same location on the backend whichever frontend they were (set to) recorded from. ie the location set in the backend setup on the master backend in this case....?

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Dagmar:

Well, what it amounts to is this...

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Dagmar:

Let's say on the backend all your media files are stored under /storage/movies and /storage/music and so forth...

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barmymatt:

ok

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hads:

I think you referred to the recordings as 'media library' which isn't quite correct and introduced confusion.

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Dagmar:

WHat you'd want to do is use Samba or NFS to create an exportable (fancy word) share out of /storage

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Dagmar:

...so that on the frontend only box you can then mount the remote share to /storage on the frontend

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hads:

If you're talking about recordings then they will stream to the frontend automatically

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Dagmar:

...so that when you access files in /storage on the frontend-only box, you're actually accessing files in /storage on the backend box

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hads:

You may have a view filter setup or something.

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barmymatt:

hmmm... a little confused....

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Dagmar:

I'm assuming you're talking about the stuff for MythVidoe and MythMusic

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someninjamaster:

has anyone heard of a bug that makes program guide crash

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hads:

And I'm going the other way :)

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Dagmar:

THings recorded off TV will be viewable by all frontends no matter what normally

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Dagmar:

someninjamaster: I thought you saw me say you needed to upgrade to 0.20-fixes

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someninjamaster:

yeah

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Dagmar:

someninjamaster: Does your cell plan charge you for long distance or minutes at this time of night?

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barmymatt:

Dabmar: ...No, not Myth Video or MythMusic, Just the "Media Library" to view TV recordings

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hads:

As I suspected. I'd put money on it being a filtered view

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Dagmar:

barmymatt: OKay then like the other guys said, you have different filters set active

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Dagmar:

Check the FAQ for "Why don't my recordings show up"

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barmymatt:

Hads: I checked for view filter ... not that.

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barmymatt:

OK. I'll check FAQs...

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barmymatt:

Thanks for the help.... may be back...

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juski:

<stabs buttons randomly in vain> ....

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MaverickTech:

juski: OUCH – not the red one :(

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juski:

hey when you stab random buttons it's inevitable the red one gets it

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kdub:

how

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kdub:

the hell

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kdub:

do you run mythfilldatabase

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hads:

you

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hads:

type

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hads:

mythfilldatabase

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kdub:

dag

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kdub:

thats what i thought

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kdub:

it doesnt work

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kdub:

im thinking i may have installed a frontend only somehow with mythdora

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** juski wonders how you manage to go wrong with these 'foolproof' mythtv-based distros **

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kdub:

yeah tell me about it

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kdub:

no way in hell i am going to attempt to think to install something

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kdub:

nothing to see here people

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kdub:

ijust cant spell database

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Tanthrix:

I'm playing back a movie via mplayer, and I'm seeing the framerate switch between 24 FPS and 30 FPS back and fourth, almost every couple seconds

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Tanthrix:

Could that be correct, or is mplayer messing with me?

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Tanthrix:

(From a 1080i MPEG2 source)

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mvysin:

I've got a problem with changing channels... got a pcHDTV 5500 card and it only shows channel 3... changing the channel has no effect

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mvysin:

even though the thing's configured by zap2it

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Anduin:

mvysin: did you set an external channel changer?

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mvysin:

no, since I don't have an external tuner / cable box I didn't think that was necessary

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Anduin:

Yeah, just checking, how about a preset? (not starting)

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mvysin:

oh – ok... no, don't have that either

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Anduin:

Yeah, those were both things not to have

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mvysin:

got it.

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mvysin:

one more thing that might have an effect -

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mvysin:

the backend is on a separate machine from the frontend

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Anduin:

Shouldn't make a difference

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mvysin:

mythfrontend even pulls up the current program info, displays the correct channel, etc.

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mvysin:

but shows the video from channel 3

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Anduin:

Yeah, that is the easy part, you want to check the backend logs, possibly after enabling -v channel,record

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mvysin:

mythtv -v channel,record ? or on the backend

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Anduin:

mvysin: Yeah, as a command line argument, though if it is failing you probably already have useful information there.

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hads:

the binary is mythbackend

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Anduin:

and yeah, the backend, it is what actually changes the channel

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mvysin:

I get an "unknown video codec" "assuming rtjpeg for now" ... let me look at the recording options page

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barmymatt:

Dagmar & hads... Thanks again. My little problem with recordings missing from the 'media library' of my remote frontend WAS to do with view/group filters.... But not as you might expect: Was set correctly to "All Programs", but selecting "default", then changing back to "All Programs" seems to have fixed it. Strange.

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Beirdo:

OK, so now I have INN running in a xen domU

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Beirdo:

that was easier than I had expected it to be

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Beirdo:

just hope I didn't miss something funky I added :)

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geoffeg:

So using NTSC the audio gets out of sync with the video, any suggestions?

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Anduin:

geoffeg: more context

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mvysin:

Anduin: running mythbackend -v channel,record... I tried switching between channel 76 (comedy central) and 10 (program guide)

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mvysin:

and it output

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mvysin:

it also gave me 2007-05–18 22:06:34.471 Channel(/dev/v4l/video0)::Tune(): Frequency is now 535250000

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Anduin:

mvysin: That is a chanid, it is ok

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mvysin:

and the frequency changes when the channel changes

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mvysin:

but yet the video does not change

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mvysin:

I don't see anything that looks like an error message

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Anduin:

mvysin: Is MythTV alone in being unable to tune?

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mvysin:

Anduin: it's the only one I've tested so far

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Anduin:

I'd probably try a channel scan as well

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jhulst:

I installed a new graphics card and now I just get a blue screen when trying to watch tv, mplayer works fine, the error with myth seems to be this, VideoOutputXv: XvMCTex: Init failed

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mvysin:

Anduin: good point ... and now that you mention it the channel scan picked up every possible channel – including those I don't get.

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mvysin:

hardware problem, maybe?

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Anduin:

mvysin: This is the part where I tell you I've not yet bought an HDTV card. So no, it could be any number of things, I'd try the azap (or whatever the tool is called) and see what it can find.

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Anduin:

jhulst: That is XvMC output failing, should be non-fatal.

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jhulst:

hmm, any ideas of what is the cause of the blue screen then?

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Anduin:

jhulst: If you hit escape do you return to the theme?

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jhulst:

yes

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jhulst:

Sounds is coming out, just no video

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jhulst:

Does the same thing for playing DVD's

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Anduin:

jhulst: video card?

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jhulst:

Anduin: Onboard SiS chip

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Anduin:

jhulst: can you pastebin the last several lines of the frontend log?

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mvysin:

Anduin: got this in dmesg: lgdt330x: lgdt330x_set_parameters: Modulation type(4) UNSUPPORTED

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mvysin:

Anduin: actually, scratch that. that was from something else

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mvysin:

this pcHDTV card worked — was able to tune — with mythtv on an older machine I used before.

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mvysin:

Same kernel, same drivers as far as I can tell, same version of mythtv

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mark487:

hi, i have mythdora (front&back&recordings) on one hd now. I'm adding a large hd for recordings and wanna keep os/apps on 1st hd. Anyone know if mythdora's installer will support this? (and will it move the existing recordings over & keep database working ok?)

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xris:

you shouldn't need to reinstall

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inklein:

hello

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inklein:

I just installed mythtv and I cannot use any of my channels above 13

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inklein:

anyone?

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juski:

hmm interesting: http://lircconfig.commandir.com/

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pat_:

that site makes my brain hurt too much

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pat_:

I have to think

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pat_:

man, acronis true image is the bomb for windows

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juski:

a great way to wreck a windows partition? I thought just mke2fs would do that

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juski:

and fdisk of course

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pat_:

feh, works well for me

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pat_:

bare metal restore is what I'm chasing

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pat_:

(I tested it out on my wife's computer)

[09:11:17]

** pat_ needs some darwin stubbies, these littlies are too quick between opening and emptying **

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xris:

juski: http://newmyth.forevermore.net/

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hads:

Damn, some extra junk snuck into my diff I just uploaded and I can't overwrite the file :(

[09:38:10]

hads:

xris: Any comment on my minor CSS workaround in #3394? (that was the modified bit that snuck into my other diff which I didn't check).

[09:44:39]

xris:

hads: haven't been looking at code recently

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k31th:

If i want to watch sky tv with mythtv wats my best option ??

[09:45:41]

k31th:

can i get a card that supports a sky viewing card?

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hads:

xris: No worries at all.

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hads:

k31th: NZ?

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k31th:

hads: im in the UK

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k31th:

hads: did you think NZ due to my host name?

[09:57:34]

k31th:

everyone does :p

[09:57:43]

hads:

Oh OK, the other Sky. Yeah, that and Sky is here too.

[09:58:30]

k31th:

on another note i have just got a kworld DVB-T card

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hads:

k31th: A PVR150 and an IR blaster is probably the best option if the Sky is just Svideo out.

[09:59:01]

k31th:

how would i go about making this work ? atm im using knoppmyth just to test every thing.

[09:59:33]

k31th:

i seen knoppmyth detect the device

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k31th:

on boot.

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hads:

I don't know anything about knoppmyth and we don't have DVB-T here yet so I'm not going to be able to help you there.

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k31th:

ah ok

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hads:

Unless knoppmyth has fancy setup scripts then you'd just do it like normal in mythtv-setup

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xris:

k31th: juski is the local UK tv expert... knows a reasonable amount about Sky.

[10:05:19]

hads:

xris: Taking a break from looking at code or just too busy?

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xris:

too much stuff to do

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xris:

website, life, etc.

[10:07:50]

hads:

Understandable

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hads:

Life can be important :)

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k31th:

having no time is common for me to lol

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k31th:

xris: ill have a word with him then

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k31th:

just wondered if there was any thing else apart from ir blaster really

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xris:

k31th: though if I recall correctly, there isn't a viable dvb-s option for uk sky

[10:10:52]

** xris grumbles about 585 gigs of mail spool. **

[10:11:15]

k31th:

jesus!

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k31th:

xris: wat box is there?

[10:11:23]

k31th:

that*

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directhex:

k31th, sky is only available with a sky box, as per the T&C in the contract

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Tanthrix:

Jerry Falwell died three days ago, man I'm out of the loop.

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k31th:

directhex: ah i see.

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hads:

That's a nasty mail spool

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** Tanthrix would be celebrating if he didn't think being happy at someone's death is a tad bit sociopathic **

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directhex:

Tanthrix, it's falwell. three cheers!

[10:18:55]

Tanthrix:

hehe

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Tanthrix:

You're right – Woohoooo!

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k31th:

I seem to get a crash @ 50% on EIT scan

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directhex:

there's no progress bar on EIT scanning

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k31th:

well it sits there on 50%

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directhex:

what sits where on 50%? EIT has no progress bar

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k31th:

when i add a new video source

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directhex:

that's not EIT, that's channel scanning

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k31th:

could that be down to a shit arial ?

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k31th:

it gets to 50% instantly

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directhex:

that doesn't sound like normal behaviour

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k31th:

wat is a EIT scan ?

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directhex:

you definitely told setup that it's a DVB card, not a normal card?

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directhex:

EIT is the on-air program guide used in DVB. it happens automatically, over time, in the background

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k31th:

ok sorted that

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k31th:

if i do a scan get no chanels tho

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k31th:

probs this crap arial

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directhex:

can you successfully lock onto a channel using a tool like tzap?

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xzcvczx:

anyone got mtd working on osx?

[10:34:39]

siXy:

Hi people :) Does anyone know of a fix to the broken (or at least highly undesirable) behaviour that causes 0.2x to get stuck in mythgallery?

[10:37:20]

xris:

PointyPumper: answering your question in the other channel.. check salary.com

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xzcvczx:

and has anyone had the issue where the osx packager doesnt include libdvdcss/cant read 'encrypted' dvds?

[10:47:16]

directhex:

xzcvczx, why would they include an illegal library in something hosted in .us?

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xzcvczx:

directhex: it claims to if you read through the .pl file

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k31th:

this sucks all my channels are timing out

[10:56:21]

directhex:

k31th, can you lock onto a channel okay with tzap?

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k31th:

going to try it on ubuntu,.

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** directhex decides not to ask a third time **

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xzcvczx:

directhex: i must say its a pity that any opensource software must "break the law" to be able to play dvds

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directhex:

xzcvczx, anyone who doesn't use windows is a pirate and a communist. fact.

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xzcvczx:

lol

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k31th:

directhex: sorry will check that when i get ubuntu installed

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k31th:

ok got that installing

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k31th:

so wat do you guys do for day jobs?

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directhex:

i'm a cowboy millionaire astronaut

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pat_:

I bend pipes

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Tanthrix:

Damn! I'm an astronaut cowboy millionaire!

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directhex:

Tanthrix, do you wake up every morning and thank christ you're not a millionaire cowboy astronaut too?

[11:09:30]

Tanthrix:

Oh god yes

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Tanthrix:

Those sons of a bitches can rot in hell

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directhex:

poor bastards :|

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Tanthrix:

And on that note, I must retire to my buffalo skin diamond bed....in space

[11:11:16]

directhex:

Judean People's Front. We're the People's Front of Judea! Judean People's Front. Cawk.

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pat_:

sounds like a bad movie to me

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MaverickTech:

I wanted to be a professional loafer, but the pay was shite

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pat_:

MaverickTech: tried softpad yet?

[11:16:38]

MaverickTech:

pat_: no

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MaverickTech:

I had a look at merging the softpad branch with the trunk and it looked scary

[11:17:36]

MaverickTech:

was waiting to catch you around to see what the go was with your diffs

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MaverickTech:

what are the diff's against ?

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pat_:

umm /me reads what he wrot

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pat_:

e

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pat_:

The diffs are against mythtv-0.20-fixes branch and are applied against

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pat_:

the revision number listed.

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pat_:

glad I wrote that otherwise I would have forgotten

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MaverickTech:

ok, I might have to play around with the patch's, SVN, and alcohol – see what I come up with

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** directhex wonders whether the alsa project will accept his patch **

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pat_:

MaverickTech: the latest stuff in about recording multiple streams from the same transport seems worth a look too

[11:31:59]

pat_:

anybody got any experience using playstation controllers with mythgame?

[11:33:03]

MaverickTech:

I asked the other day about that pat, but was told it's unlikely to help with back-to-back

[11:33:20]

MaverickTech:

pat_: on the PS stuff, nothing here, but interested in the answer

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MaverickTech:

I use a MS Sidewinder gamepad at the moment

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pat_:

I've got a playstation and controllers, and an old atari console I collected games for for a while

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pat_:

I'd like to marry the two

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pat_:

MaverickTech: which version would you like the patches to apply to?

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pat_:

latest svn?

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pat_:

or something in particular (I'm doing nothing right now, and can spare an hour or so)

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directhex:

pat_, just use a USB adapter. ought to JustWork(tm)

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MaverickTech:

I am using latest trunk

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MaverickTech:

compiled about ~2hrs ago

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pat_:

MaverickTech: wife is keeping up the beers, so I'm right till she stops supplying them :)

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MaverickTech:

:p

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MaverickTech:

what are we drinking ?

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pat_:

hahn – super dry

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** MaverickTech << Coopers Pale **

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pat_:

I'm just checking out head now to apply the patches for you

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MaverickTech:

that's mighty nice of you

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pat_:

super dry has 1/3 the carbohydrates

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pat_:

she's watching telly on the computer next to me

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pat_:

she's using tapeworm and vlc at the moment

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MaverickTech:

cool

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MaverickTech:

had a play with TapeWorm some time back

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MaverickTech:

watch tv on laptop with MrsMav from time to time, generally just map a drive and VLC

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MaverickTech:

I use the perl script in the /contrib folder to generate links with real names

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pat_:

tapeworm works nicely, she deletes all the things she tapes that are crap with it as well

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MaverickTech:

I have an cupboard full of varous old gear – waiting to try out some dedicated myth frontend configs

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k31th:

directhex: how do i use tzap ?

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pat_:

my dedicated frontend is a dell gx 260 sff case

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directhex:

k31th, it helps if you have tuner information already available. what's your local DVB-T transmitter?

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MaverickTech:

pat_: I work with embedded stuff a lot in real life, I am going to try to find the lowest spec I can get it running on ;)

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pat_:

MaverickTech: if this is a good data point for you, my wife's pc is a p3–450, and can play divx encoded tv, but can't play fta mpeg2 straight from the card

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MaverickTech:

cool

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MaverickTech:

450 is lower spec than most of the embedded gear these days

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k31th:

Uk Mendip

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k31th:

iv tried this

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k31th:

failed.

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directhex:

failed how?

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k31th:

LOL

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k31th:

im not sure if i should even admitt this

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k31th:

hahahhaa

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k31th:

idiot

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k31th:

i had plugged into the av out

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k31th:

hahaha

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k31th:

thats wat u get for not looking.

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k31th:

woot working

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k31th:

just shit slow

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k31th:

spect the gfx card in this box is a pile of shit :p

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pat_:

MaverickTech: looks like someone who can actually code rather than just work out how to apply patches that don't apply cleanly needs to take softpad under their wing

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MaverickTech:

thanks for looking lat

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MaverickTech:

*pat

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MaverickTech:

I will stiff persue it, I just need to find some time

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MaverickTech:

*still

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MaverickTech:

acchh, hvaing truobel tpying

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pat_:

too much coopers

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pat_:

gah! 10 minutes overrun, and still she had to go to another recording to get the end

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pat_:

for those devs who don't believe that overruning programs can be a problem we can't get the stations to fix here is your evidence

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pat_:

(lucky that it was recorded on another recording, otherwise I'd be answering for it for weeks)

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planktonboy:

hi all

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planktonboy:

a quick question if I may

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Zider:

you may

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planktonboy:

:)

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gardengnome:

no, it doesn't really matter. i just put it in a sub directory of my home directory

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planktonboy:

gardengnome, just building a new machine with a bit higher specs, and then going to give the one I am using at the moment to my mother

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planktonboy:

at least that is the idea

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gardengnome:

good luck .)

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planktonboy:

thanks...I'll need it

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planktonboy:

:)

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riddlebox:

for some reason my remote mythfrontend will not connect to the database anymore? I get Access denied for user 'mythtv' @ 'Nigmadsktp.local' (Using password: YES)?

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planktonboy:

brb

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a5benwillis:

g'morning

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a5benwillis:

anyone know of a minimyth chan?

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riddlebox:

I have a remove mythfrontend that wont connect to the backend, the error says Access denied for user mythtv@machinename.local ?

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k31th:

this is great! skipping back tv + pausing it

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Anduin:

riddlebox: Update the DB permissions to allow connections from that host (or all), there is an example in the main MythTV docs.

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riddlebox:

Anduin, the weird thing is that this was working then one day nothing

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k31th:

whats the best way of hooking up a myth box to a tv?

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directhex:

k31th, with a cable

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k31th:

wat card is best, i want to be able to connect to a HDTV + standard

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riddlebox:

k31th, I have s-video, but I am running into a power problem that runs lines across my screen

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k31th:

directhex: :D

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directhex:

k31th, VGA is popular, for sets that will take it

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k31th:

riddlebox: svideo from say a nvidia card ?

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riddlebox:

k31th, yes

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k31th:

most plasma have vga now

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k31th:

so vga / svideo

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directhex:

but most don't have plasma, so that's not saying much

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k31th:

wat about hdtv

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k31th:

true.

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Anduin:

riddlebox: If you throw a mythconverg in there it still works?

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riddlebox:

Anduin, yup, and I can do like select * from record; and see whatever is in the table

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adante_:

hey um

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adante_:

is there some problem with the manual recording schedule feature (maybe when used via mythweb)?

[14:23:37]

adante_:

i tried to use it and... it seems to have been entered 3 times or something? its making 3 recordings simultaneously

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directhex:

k31th, here's what you do: look at the manual for your tv, work out which plug allows the highest quality connection without scaling, and plug into that

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k31th:

all i need now is to get a remote to work with it

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k31th:

that is doable?

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directhex:

yes, in general

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k31th:

for simple stuff like pause

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k31th:

etc

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directhex:

pick a remote, pick a receiver, then muck about trying to convince your distro that it really wants to join the two in holy matrimony

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_stokes:

im looking at these hauppage cards but none of them capture HD over the air do they?

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k31th:

directhex: haha i have a remote and receiver actually

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k31th:

directhex: seems to half work

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k31th:

i can get the volume up

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k31th:

i guess the keymapping for the rest of the keys is just wrong

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k31th:

must be able to mod that some where

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planktonboy:

hi all

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planktonboy:

just about to do a sudo make install or rather a sudo checkinstall, but was wondering if I need to do that as mythtv user or can I install it from any user account

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planktonboy:

ie can I create a user account called mythtv later on or is it best to do that before actually installing mythtv

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stuarta:

afternoon all

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stuarta:

hands up those who don't give a toss about the FA Cup final

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** juski puts his hands up in the air forcefully **

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juski:

went shopping today. saw mac mini again <3

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juski:

it knows I want it

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planktonboy:

LOL juski

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stuarta:

how's the mini fund going?

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planktonboy:

yeah they are nice looking

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juski:

decided against it til they can play h.264 HD

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juski:

meantime there are other toys. new LG wide monitor in 22"

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TSCHAK2:

has anyone bought anything from these guys? http://www.mini-box.com/ ??

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stuarta:

ooo nice.

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juski:

stuarta: don't see the point waxing 400 squids on a new machine if it won't do h.264 HD – it has to last a good few years in my skinflinty hands :)

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stuarta:

fairy snuff

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juski:

it's very tempting all the same though

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juski:

saw appletv up close today too. talk about spiffy UI

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TSCHAK2:

openGL out the wazoo

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TSCHAK2:

i say we get the Beryl guys to work on MythUI

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juski:

looks exactly like neon-wide – I might sue the buggers :-P

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TSCHAK2:

teehee :-D

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juski:

TSCHAK2: but what about the poor framebuffer users?!

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juski:

those folks with 3Hz CPUs & PVR350 cards

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stuarta:

no fair! i just deadlocked my frontend...

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stuarta:

:(

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juski:

oh wait yeah.. what about them? ;)

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TSCHAK2:

juski, fuck em

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TSCHAK2:

:-P

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juski:

stuarta: get a backtrace & send it to me. I'll give it to stuarta to have a look at later:)

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stuarta:

hahaha!

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juski:

tell ya one thing about today tho

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TSCHAK2:

they wanted their optimal mpeg output at 720x480, they can have their optimal 720x480 output....on anything below 0.22 :-P

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juski:

don't go clothes shopping with the mrs if you have a slightly queasy stomach. some of the colours & patterns are a bit erm..

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juski:

pesky fashions. have women gorn colour blind?!

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TSCHAK2:

juski, fashion wise, we've thrown the 60's, 70's and 80's into a blender on puree.

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juski:

TSCHAK2: more like 'pukey chunks', not puree

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TSCHAK2:

with all the oversized aldo sunglasses i feel like i'm in a bad dream of Milan :-P

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TSCHAK2:

oh well

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TSCHAK2:

this too will pass.

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TSCHAK2:

like when i saw the brief but horrifying stint of men wearing capris.

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juski:

the car from the 70s?

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juski:

TSCHAK2: I just see 'Paris Hilton wannabee' when I see those oversized wraparound shades

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kash:

what should i check if mythbackend is using 7% CPU all the time?

[15:51:58]

TSCHAK2:

.......pants that go down to just above the ankles.

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kash:

there's nothing running like commflag or transcoding

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juski:

TSCHAK2: ah. I'd call them full length trousers

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** stuarta needs an afternoon siesta **

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** juski beers stuarta **

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stuarta:

cheers!

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TSCHAK2:

juski, nah..not those.. women usually wear them, it's meant to expose the very bottoms of their legs.

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TSCHAK2:

anyway.

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TSCHAK2:

blah

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juski:

none of manc's boozy shops have any cachacha

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juski:

TSCHAK2: mmyers. put the handbag down & walk away from the clothes rail

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stuarta:

on tonights menu we have 1. mussels in white wine and garlic, 2. chilli & lime king prawns followed by 3. monkfish wrapped in parma ham

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juski:

:-P

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TSCHAK2:

hahahhahaha

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juski:

stuarta: where's your house?

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stuarta:

;-)

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** TSCHAK2 looks at the closet that has been taken over by the missus, the shoes...and the matching handbags..... **

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TSCHAK2:

I'M IN HELL!!!!!!! OHHHHHH! OHHHHH!!!!!!!!

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juski:

I mustn't grumble. we're having home made burgers & zingy salad tonight

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juski:

TSCHAK2: the Marcos effect? heheheh

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stuarta:

TSCHAK2: it all starts with a toothbrush and goes downhill from there.

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** juski is thankful his wife has only 30 or so pairs of shoes **

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TSCHAK2:

"Notice how the handles on her gardening shears matches the color of her gardening clogs? _that's not an accident._"

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stuarta:

that is a worry

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TSCHAK2:

American Beauty

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juski:

should we ban leggings? or is that just me?

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juski:

ahem.. anyway. back to #mythtv-users...

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** juski whistles **

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TSCHAK2:

I think we should just ban women's clothes, except for the victoria's secret catalog :-P

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kash:

no

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kash:

ban all.

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kash:

clothes = bad

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kash:

except on fat chicks..

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juski:

just euthenaise those ones

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TSCHAK2:

o/~ put the fat chicks on a hamster wheel o/~

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juski:

scared to laugh incase some feminist linux geek approaches me at LRL & dispatches rough justice

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TSCHAK2:

ROFLMAO

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TSCHAK2:

hey they can't all be like the BSD Daemon Girl

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TSCHAK2:

:-P

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juski:

becuase they're an unrealistic (bad) example ?

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TSCHAK2:

. o O (boy i'd like to fork that daemon) :-P

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TSCHAK2:

hehehee

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TSCHAK2:

yeah, they're like the chicks in porn films, obviously being filmed on another planet and beamed down to us.

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juski:

actually I'd say most of the geek women I've ever met have been stereo-un-typical

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juski:

speaking of womanisers..

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TSCHAK2:

*ba-dum-ching*

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juski:

hmm neon-wide is almost as searched for as boobtoob-wide now :)

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TSCHAK2:

oh if only there were google hit royalties :-P

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juski:

tempting to go with ad-click whatever thingies

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TSCHAK2:

mythtv banner ads

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TSCHAK2:

the world truly has flushed down the toilet.

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TSCHAK2:

;-)

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juski:

you can laugh

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juski:

every time I look at gossamer-threads I see ads for $ly Plu$

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TSCHAK2:

hahahahha

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juski:

I like the irony in that

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juski:

maybe not gossamer then.. but seen it somewhere mythtv is talked about

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k31th:

woot got mythtv working

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juski:

ooo. one big weekend is on 302 :)

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stuarta:

ooo

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juski:

amazing the amount of stuff we miss on those interactive streams

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juski:

sometimes have Jo whiley live lounge recordings on there too..

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stuarta:

yeah it's a pity there isn't eit data for them

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juski:

you'd have to scrape the MHEG

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juski:

uglee

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stuarta:

end up with a lot of random firmware

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stuarta:

it's on bbc HD as well

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juski:

can you spell 'waste of bandwidth' ? ;)

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TSCHAK2:

mythtv doesn't scrape all the mheg yet?

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stuarta:

it does all the interactive tv stuff

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TSCHAK2:

I guess i need to study the specs on it more

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stuarta:

it's just the only way to find out whats on the interactive channels

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stuarta:

is really to use the interactive stuff

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stuarta:

which is a PITA

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juski:

too much of it assumes you're just grazing like a punter

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stuarta:

that is what it's designed for

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juski:

might have to come up with a solution for grabbing nice things from those streams

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juski:

live music is about the only thing I ever keep of my recordings

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k31th:

is there an option to put a passwd on the web interface of myth?

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juski:

k31th: you can secure apache however you want to

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** stuarta points to the README in the mythweb directory **

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kash:

hm.. i moved my DB to another machine that was already running MySQL and now the backend doesn't use any CPU :D

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** stuarta isn't surprised **

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juski:

kash: like 7% was a lot

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kash:

juski: i didn't like it, either way

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juski:

whinge whinge whine whine whine

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kash:

because when recordings happen it's in software, and it goes to 99%

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juski:

:-P

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kash:

then they skip

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juski:

serves you right for using lamegrabbers

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kash:

man, you're such an asshole

[16:32:11]

juski:

true

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kash:

seriously. i'm waiting for a pvr-150 in the mail

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juski:

tell me something I don't know

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stuarta:

no he just gave up smoking

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kash:

but until i get it, i only have a framegrabber card to use, and i have to work with that

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juski:

stuarta: no, I AM an asshole. leave him

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kash:

stuarta: oh, ok. that explains it.

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kash:

(he's on the rag)

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juski:

kash: rofl

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kash:

:)

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juski:

lamegrabbers are shite anyway

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kash:

yeah, but it's the only thing i have right now

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kash:

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