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Monday, April 16th, 2007, 00:00 UTC |
[00:00:24] |
ubuntuEdgy: |
I'm using mythfrontend , i cant be typing sudo ever time i want to shutdown |
[00:00:24] |
ubuntuEdgy: |
i have tryed visudo |
[00:00:42] |
ubuntuEdgy: |
no luck, |
[00:00:58] |
ubuntuEdgy: |
hads: where can i find this setting |
[00:01:09] |
J-e-f-f-A: |
ubuntuEdgy: My shutdown command is set to "poweroff", which the mythtv user is allowed to execute. |
[00:01:10] |
hads: |
In mythfrontend, under settings. |
[00:01:25] |
hads: |
Possibly general, I can't remember |
[00:02:17] |
hads: |
Damn, forgot to have breakfast. |
[00:03:25] |
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[00:04:21] |
cesman: |
I don't understand... |
[00:04:24] |
cesman: |
ok |
[00:04:36] |
ubuntuEdgy: |
I'm going to test it now if i don't come back, it will have been successful |
[00:05:20] |
ubuntuEdgy: |
now it says "poweroff: Need to be root" |
[00:05:36] |
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[00:06:08] |
cesman: |
you need to edit /etc/sudoers |
[00:06:12] |
cesman: |
something like |
[00:06:27] |
cesman: |
username ALL=NOPASSWD:/path/to/poweroff |
[00:07:03] |
cesman: |
then in mythtv the command to power off should be sudo /path/to/poweroff |
[00:07:04] |
ubuntuEdgy: |
i have done that with no luck, do i need to reboot after changing this file ? |
[00:07:17] |
ubuntuEdgy: |
ohh i see |
[00:08:23] |
ubuntuEdgy: |
if that's the case then i need to change the settings on mythtv to "/sbin/halt" |
[00:08:25] |
** cesman waits for retraction on not understanding.... ;) ** |
[00:10:43] |
ubuntuEdgy: |
still no luck i have modified that visudo file to " myuser ALL = NOPASSWD: /sbin/halt" |
[00:11:06] |
cesman: |
the user may have to log out and back in |
[00:11:12] |
ubuntuEdgy: |
and i have put "/sbin/halt" in the mythtv settings |
[00:11:22] |
ubuntuEdgy: |
ok brb |
[00:11:27] |
hads: |
You'll need to use sudo... |
[00:11:38] |
hads: |
Oh well. |
[00:11:51] |
** cesman heads off to kitchen to make something to eat ** |
[00:12:33] |
ubuntuEdgy: |
halt: Need to be root |
[00:12:46] |
hads: |
Yes, well you will need to use sudo... |
[00:13:11] |
hads: |
There's no point editing sudoers if the command you are using doesn't call sudo |
[00:13:12] |
ubuntuEdgy: |
sudo mythfroned ? |
[00:13:34] |
hads: |
Think about it. Do you need to run mythfrontend as root? |
[00:13:41] |
ubuntuEdgy: |
no |
[00:13:49] |
hads: |
Correct |
[00:14:11] |
ubuntuEdgy: |
? |
[00:14:38] |
ubuntuEdgy: |
yes is do |
[00:14:53] |
hads: |
I don't think you quite get the concept of sudo yet. |
[00:15:23] |
hads: |
Edit the mythtv shutdown command setting and add sudo in front of the command. |
[00:15:28] |
ubuntuEdgy: |
its to get root privileges :-P |
[00:15:41] |
ubuntuEdgy: |
ok thanks |
[00:15:48] |
hads: |
Otherwise how would the OS know that you wanted to use sudo? |
[00:16:04] |
hads: |
It doesn't just magically do these things. |
[00:16:10] |
cesman: |
lol |
[00:16:36] |
cesman: |
guess he didn't understand.... |
[00:16:45] |
** hads gives up ** |
[00:16:56] |
hads: |
I'll stop being mean |
[00:18:45] |
ubuntuEdgy: |
it worked :-D |
[00:26:09] |
khanafur: |
i have a problem i keep running into on all of my debian machines that i use for mythtv frontends |
[00:27:22] |
ubuntuEdgy: |
hey can i get help with mythwelcome ? |
[00:27:41] |
khanafur: |
after an update a while back all of the text on the qt screens is missing |
[00:27:46] |
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[00:28:09] |
ubuntuEdgy: |
when i type it on a terminal it keeps on opening new windows of "mythwelcome" |
[00:28:48] |
ubuntuEdgy: |
make sense ? |
[00:31:05] |
ubuntuEdgy: |
can any one help |
[00:31:20] |
kormoc: |
no |
[00:32:07] |
spinull: |
is it worth the extra $200 to get an contrast ratio of 10,000:1 vs. 1200:1, with a 1ms difference between the two tv's |
[00:32:19] |
ubuntuEdgy: |
be patient |
[00:32:59] |
kormoc: |
spinull, more depends on you then anyone else |
[00:33:05] |
spinull: |
how so? |
[00:33:39] |
hads: |
$200 doesn't seem like much for that bigger difference, but if you can't tell the difference visually then there isn't much point. |
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[00:34:03] |
jimbalaya: |
this is driving me nuts ... I'm using Debian Etch ... the ivtv module(s) load at boot .... the lirc_i2c module doesn't ... if i modprobe lirc_i2c then it loads, and everything is ok, so i know it works .... i just can't find the proper place to add modules to load at boot :-/ |
[00:34:27] |
jimbalaya: |
i ran 'grep -R ivtv /etc' with no results |
[00:34:28] |
psofa: |
/etc/modules_something maybe? |
[00:34:28] |
hads: |
/etc/modules |
[00:34:29] |
spinull: |
i can tell the difference |
[00:34:44] |
jimbalaya: |
the only thing listed in the /etc/modules file is 'loop' |
[00:35:04] |
hads: |
Just put lirc_i2c in there |
[00:35:05] |
spinull: |
is it going to drive me nuts later when im seeing it, should i decide to go with the cheaper one |
[00:35:23] |
hads: |
There's your answer :) |
[00:35:50] |
spinull: |
i |
[00:35:50] |
jimbalaya: |
hads: do i put 'modprobe lirc_i2c' or just, as it seems i should, 'lirc_i2c' |
[00:35:58] |
hads: |
The latter |
[00:36:07] |
hads: |
One module name per line |
[00:36:29] |
jimbalaya: |
ok ... thanks |
[00:36:33] |
hads: |
np |
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[00:38:47] |
jimbalaya: |
...and to have lircd run at boot, i should add a script named /etc/init.d/lircd ... right? |
[00:39:08] |
hads: |
How did you install lirc? |
[00:39:32] |
spinull: |
im gonna go with the LG then, higher contrast ratio and 1ms faster response |
[00:40:38] |
jimbalaya: |
hads: source, i believe |
[00:40:47] |
hads: |
You believe? :) |
[00:41:04] |
hound: |
Does anybody get usable results with commercial detection? I never seems to work correctly for me... even with strict commercial detection on. I understand it probably wouldn't work on every channel, but maybe I'm doing something wrong too? |
[00:41:19] |
jimbalaya: |
yeah, it's in my source directory.... and I remember having issues with apt-getting it |
[00:41:32] |
hads: |
You're better off (IMHO) to install using module assistant and debs, that way you get the init script and everything. |
[00:41:45] |
cesman: |
hound: works well here! |
[00:42:01] |
hound: |
I like the logo detection idea, I was thikning it would look for the TV age logo that shows after every commercial, but it totally messed up when I tried only that method |
[00:42:11] |
hads: |
jimbalaya: Unless you have trouble or need a newer version that is. |
[00:42:23] |
hound: |
cesman, do you leave your commercial method set to : all availble methods? |
[00:42:34] |
jimbalaya: |
i had issues with apt-get and module assistant, but the source worked perfectly |
[00:43:18] |
hads: |
You could try just installing the lirc package. That contains the init script which might work for you. |
[00:44:02] |
hads: |
Although it might also be too debianised to work with a source install. |
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jimbalaya: |
well, it's in and working, so I'm gonna fiddle with an init.d script before i go reinstalling stuff |
[00:46:01] |
jimbalaya: |
thanks for your help, hads! |
[00:46:25] |
hads: |
np |
[00:47:29] |
Law: |
hmm under V4L it says you have a have X modules installed if not built into the kernel, I've done a lsmod and they are not show and tried to modprobe them but they are not there, I using unbuntu. any ideas? |
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Law: |
for example CRC32 |
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[00:51:05] |
irq: |
is there a way to use a CableCard with MythTV? does the ati ocur work? |
[00:52:00] |
jroysdon: |
oooh, good question |
[00:52:03] |
** jroysdon waits for the answer ** |
[00:52:49] |
Tanthrix: |
irq: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/262870 |
[00:53:06] |
Tanthrix: |
In short, no. |
[00:54:39] |
irq: |
Tanthrix: |
[00:54:41] |
irq: |
err |
[00:54:59] |
irq: |
Tanthrix: this thread also seems to say that there is no way to capture video via HDMI into myth? |
[00:55:03] |
irq: |
what about a DVI input? |
[00:55:17] |
irq: |
cable box -> hdmi -> hdmi-to-dvi cable -> myth? |
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Tanthrix: |
irq: HDMI is is basically DVI with audiop, so no. |
[00:55:39] |
irq: |
so basically it's almost impossible to use mythtv to record HD? |
[00:56:11] |
Tanthrix: |
irq: Well, you can get an HD tuner card or use firewire to get HD stuff, but only if it's unencrypted. |
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Tanthrix: |
(Firewire output from a cablebox, that is) |
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Tanthrix: |
irq: Lame! |
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irq: |
it's infuriating |
[00:58:26] |
Tanthrix: |
irq: Call them up and complain – don't get off the phone until they give you your money back. |
[00:58:30] |
irq: |
it looks like the only choice i have is to buy a $800 hd tivo and go with my local cable company |
[00:58:36] |
irq: |
oh i did tanthrix |
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irq: |
oh, i did |
[00:58:39] |
irq: |
my, did i ever |
[00:59:03] |
irq: |
but the farthest i got was them submitting something to their "accounting department", and being told that they'd get back to me in 7 days. then i asked how they'd contact me, and i was told that i actually have to call in |
[00:59:27] |
irq: |
and from what little googling i've done, many, many people are in the same situation as i am, regarding the forced-commitment and soon-to-be-obsolete-tivo, and none of them have been able to get out of it |
[00:59:27] |
Tanthrix: |
irq: How long were you on the phone? I've spent 2 hours dealing with that stuff before. Eventually after going in circles it becomes too costly for them to keep talking, so often they will give in. |
[00:59:42] |
irq: |
according to my treo, 85 minutes, over 2 phone calls |
[01:00:19] |
irq: |
if it wasn't for this recent force-commitment, i could have canceled directv, as i had no other commitment (had their service for over a year, etc) |
[01:00:25] |
Tanthrix: |
irq: If you feel that you've exhausted that option I would call them up, ask to talk to a supervisor, and tell them if they don't get this fixed that you are taking the matter to small claims court. |
[01:00:40] |
irq: |
it was the supervisor i was talking to, and i actually DID mention the small claims court thing! |
[01:00:44] |
Tanthrix: |
irq: And if they still don't listen, go read up on filing a claim. |
[01:00:51] |
irq: |
i swear, after the first phone call, i spent a long time looking around the net for what tactics i could use |
[01:01:08] |
Tanthrix: |
irq: Definately go through with it. Don't give in, no matter how tempting and frustratingly depressing it is. |
[01:01:22] |
irq: |
how much of a pain in the ass is it to file a claim, and will it be worth $300 in terms of fees and how much of my time it takes? consider that my sanity is about 85% drained by my own day job |
[01:01:35] |
Tanthrix: |
irq: I suspect that given the small amount of money if you actually did take them to small claims court they would give in to shut you up |
[01:01:45] |
Tanthrix: |
irq: That's why they always win unfortunately. |
[01:02:06] |
Tanthrix: |
irq: Rather, that's why they get away with this stuff. |
[01:02:31] |
irq: |
i found a faq for small claims in california |
[01:02:33] |
** Tanthrix almost just got screwed over by Best Buy so he's rather cranky about the business tactics of modern, large corporations ** |
[01:02:35] |
irq: |
$30.00 to file, that's not bad |
[01:03:00] |
irq: |
my other worry is that even if i go through small claims court, they'll still put a mark on my credit report |
[01:03:20] |
Tanthrix: |
Well, you should definately pay. Don't just cancel the charges. |
[01:03:53] |
Tanthrix: |
But if they release you from the contract due to you winning I would think that it would be illegal for them to do anything with your credit report. |
[01:04:15] |
irq: |
i don't think directv cares about the law |
[01:04:25] |
irq: |
unless it results in multi-million dollar fines |
[01:05:03] |
Tanthrix: |
It just sucks. |
[01:05:16] |
Tanthrix: |
Sorry to hear your stuck dealing with it, I feel for you. |
[01:05:46] |
irq: |
i really appreciate the sympathy.. i feel pretty terrible |
[01:05:52] |
Tanthrix: |
Best Buy just tried to charge me a 25 percent restocking fee ($300) on a TV return despite the fact that the return policy did not specify that was the case. |
[01:05:55] |
irq: |
this is one of the reasons i really want to move to canada |
[01:06:07] |
irq: |
specifically quebec |
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Tanthrix: |
(Said there was a 25 percent restocking fee on special order items, so I looked up the special order items page, said the TV would have a "special order item" button if it was a special order item, didn't have it, yet they still tried to tell me it was) |
[01:06:51] |
Tanthrix: |
I got around it by calling back a few days later on returning it as defective, and it looks like it's going to work out, so I was lucky. |
[01:07:07] |
irq: |
the worst part is i think i might end up just keeping directv if their accounting department doesn't remove the commitment for me |
[01:07:08] |
Tanthrix: |
Not after spending 1.5 hours arguing on the phone, getting stressed out and pissed off, etc.. though |
[01:07:29] |
irq: |
i've already determined that right now anyway, getting a decent DVR for HD programming is too expensive |
[01:07:48] |
Tanthrix: |
I've decided to vote with my dollars now – I'm never buying anything from Best Buy again, and I just bought my new TV set from Costco (the best company in the world) |
[01:08:02] |
Tanthrix: |
irq: Do you have comcast cable in your area? |
[01:08:11] |
irq: |
no, Cox |
[01:08:25] |
Tanthrix: |
irq: I'm in Portland, Oregon and I pay 62 for digital cable and 11.95 a month for an HD dvr and 15 HD channels |
[01:08:28] |
irq: |
they don't provide a tivo-branded dvr, and aside from myth, that's the only kind of dvr i'll use |
[01:08:38] |
irq: |
i can buy a hd-tivo that will work with their stuff, but it's $800 or $600 on ebay |
[01:08:45] |
Tanthrix: |
You are right. The comcast DVR is the buggiest POS I've ever used |
[01:08:51] |
irq: |
which is $800 more than i have to spend right now, as i paid $200 for this receiver i can't use |
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[01:12:40] |
Tanthrix: |
irq: Any way your friend will take it back? |
[01:13:08] |
irq: |
well, probably, but i don't want to ask him to, as it was just sitting in his garage for a year (he can't use it, he lives in an apartment with no way to install a dish) |
[01:13:10] |
irq: |
also, he's my boss |
[01:13:24] |
irq: |
i can sell it on ebay though, for $200 roughly |
[01:13:41] |
irq: |
but i'll probably keep it, because it still looks better than my older directivo which used svideo (this one uses hdmi) |
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Captain_Murdoch: |
irq: had he had service on the box before or was it still brand new and unactivated? |
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irq: |
he had service for over a year, which was the length of his commitment |
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jd99: |
Mythtv seems to check ~/.mythtv/lircrc if ~/.lircrc does not exist. This is fine, but I'm trying to get multiple frontends running under one user. This is working, but I don't think (could be my error) mythtv is checking the respective MYTHCONFDIR folder as specified... anyone else seen this? |
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cesman: |
there is no if, mythtv uses ~/.mythtv/lircrc not ~/.lircrc |
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jroysdon: |
hey, is cx23416 a normally supported chipset for MythTV? One place reports it as using the blackbird driver, which I thought didn't have support... |
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jd99: |
cesman, alright, sorry, but it should use MYTHCONFDIR/lircrc right? |
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jd99: |
I just thought I saw in logs it was looking for ~/.lircrc, I must have been mistaken. |
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cesman: |
you don't have to apology to me |
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jd99: |
cesman, must be my mistake actually, it looks like should be looking in conf dir |
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jd99: |
But... my c++ isn't all that great, and I don't know if this is the right place... but QString config_file = MythContext::GetConfDir() + "/lircrc"; if (!QFile::exists(config_file)) config_file = QDir::homeDirPath() + "/.lircrc"; it looks like it is checking the conf dir from mythtv, and if that fails going to ~/.lircrc (backwards from what I said) I need to figure out why it didn't go into the confdir at all for me. |
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cesman: |
jroysdon: mythtv doesn't care about the chipset perse...most anything support by v4l/v4l2, ivtv, dvb and a few others should work |
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jd99: |
Aha, this all was my fault. I spoke too soon. |
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ubuntuEdgy: |
hi |
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ubuntuEdgy: |
any one here ? |
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ubuntuEdgy: |
im trying to setup ACPIwake |
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ubuntuEdgy: |
but i cant seem to change the year on the bose alarm clock ,cat /proc/acpi/alarm2005-04–16 20:07:20 |
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ubuntuEdgy: |
i always get 2005 or some other strange number ? |
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ubuntuEdgy: |
i have solved it :) |
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ubuntuEdgy: |
bye |
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vegeat: |
anyone here have charter digital cable with mythtv? |
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sandeen_: |
hrm how can I set a recording to always just record the latest, non-rerun version of a show... |
[03:34:55] |
sandeen_: |
I had shows on "this time every week" but then scrubs moved dammit :) |
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sandeen_: |
yet, my tivo still caught it |
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cesman: |
you want record at anytime on this channel |
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jasmarc: |
can i watch live tv without it trying to cache it? i just rigged up a proof of concept setup but don't have the necessary disk space yet and its failing to 'watch tv' because its trying to record |
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cesman: |
it won't record a show that is already recorded unless you tell it to |
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ubuntuEdgy: |
can any one please help me with a # MythShutdownCheck script for the backend |
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cesman: |
jasmarc: it _must_ cache that is how a PVR works |
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cesman: |
that is how you can pause, review, etc |
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cesman: |
if you want, you can use another program like xawtv for livetv |
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cesman: |
check the mythtv archives for details... |
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jasmarc: |
cesman yeah... i see.... the default setup wanted an extra gig of space so i cranked that down to zero to see if it would help |
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sandeen_: |
cesman, but any time on this channel will probably catch non-first-runs... |
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sandeen_: |
well, I suppose that's better |
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ubuntuEdgy: |
i have found a scipt but i need help to make it specific for my needs http://pastebin.ca/442280 |
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cesman: |
hound: sorry, I stepped away |
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ubuntuEdgy: |
i need it to check if there is any shh sessions connected or ftp it not the computer can turn off |
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cesman: |
hound: I use the default (whatever it is) |
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ubuntuEdgy: |
too much to ask ? |
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cesman: |
The source is open.... There is never such a thing a too much to ask. |
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sandeen_: |
can anyone make mythflix properly add/delete from your queue? |
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** sandeen_ fixes cookies & makes it work ** |
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Alam_Debian: |
since Feb 24, my ubuntu Edgy Mythtv server stopped recording shows, I think It was due to an update of mythtv packages, can anyone help me reset my MythTV database? |
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ubuntuEdgy: |
can any one help me with this ? Forbidden |
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ubuntuEdgy: |
You don't have permission to access /mythweb/data/music/ |
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xris: |
ubuntuEdgy: pretty straightforward permissions error |
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cesman: |
probably an incorrect symlink in the ubuntu package that isn't pointing to the accurate location of your music directory... |
[05:44:13] |
cesman: |
xris: ready for the fest? |
[05:44:16] |
** xris can't wait until .21 comes out and these errors just go away ** |
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xris: |
cesman: 2 weeks. :) |
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cesman: |
:) |
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