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Tuesday, March 20th, 2007, 00:01 UTC

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eV64:

can someone look at this paste for me? http://pastebin.ca/402713 just ran myth-tv setup with errors and there's no window border around the grey setup screen

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eV64:

my tuner works with tvtime

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eV64:

can someone look at this paste for me? http://pastebin.ca/402713 just ran myth-tv setup with errors and there's no window border around the grey setup screen

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eV64_:

do you need fglrx with an ati 9800 to run mythtv-setup?

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fuseX:

hi

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fuseX:

i am trying to build the lates stable mythtv release

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fuseX:

and ia m getting some build errors

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fuseX:

it appears libmythui is having issues building

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fuseX:

qdom.h no such file or directory

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xris:

fuseX: if you're compiling, please use the fixes branch from svn

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fuseX:

hm

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fuseX:

alright

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fuseX:

hmxrwhat kind of system you running mythtv on?

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fuseX:

xris:

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amishgeek:

the hauppauge WinTV PVR 150 that best buy sells is the one that works with MythTv right?

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tale_:

can anyone tell me why mplayer and mythdvd are jerky when video is playing? I would say it's jerky about 20% of the time. It just randomly slows down and then it goes back to normal.

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tale_:

mplayer is also stretching my divx movies for some reason. They look fine when I play them in totem

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onewheelskyward:

tale_: Any CPU usage spike when the jitter occurs?

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tale_:

no, next to no cpa usage

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tale_:

it's on a 2.8ghz box with 1 gb of rame

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tale_:

ram

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tale_:

onewheelskyward, any ideas on what I should check/

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tale_:

?

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fuseX:

gonna see how this scales on a ps3

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onewheelskyward:

Are you playing DVD's and videos from the hard drive?

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tale_:

dvds from the dvd drive

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xris:

fuseX: what system? I have a p4 and a p-d

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tale_:

do you guys run mythfrontend as root/

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tale_:

?

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onewheelskyward:

Does the issue happen on more than one DVD?

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onewheelskyward:

No, I don't run any myth processes as root.

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tale_:

yes

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fuseX:

xris: playstation 3

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tale_:

is this a common problem?

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xris:

tale_: which player?

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xris:

fuseX: not worth the money. lol

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xris:

you asked what I have, though...

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tale_:

I'm using the built in mythdvd player

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tale_:

for divx movies it is using mplayer I believe

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xris:

tale_: I've run into weird sync issues, too.. from dvd or iso. never could figure out what was up with that.

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tale_:

I have windows mediacenter installed on another drive and it plays fine. So it has to be a software issue

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xris:

tale_: um, yeah, windows vs linux.

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tale_:

yeah, I really want to get it working. I've fought with lirc. I got it working. Then I fought with spdif out. I got that working. Now the jerky video issue

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tale_:

oh yeah, how do you guys handle overburn? I'm seeing the edges of the mythtvfrontend clipped off. Is there a way to adjust that?

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tale_:

onewheelskyward, http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/tips.php Check out the smoother video playback section

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tale_:

I was watching the dvd last night and I wanted to jump back to the root dvd menu for the movie, but I couldn't figure out how to get it to jump to the dvd menu.

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tale_:

anybody know how to make that work?

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sunnyhours4130:

anyone ever have mythtv-setup crash the x server when you start it the first time on a fresh install?

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The_Tick:

so if I wanted to record an hd signal over cable

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The_Tick:

can mythtv handle that?

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sunnyhours4130:

yeah, so long as you have an HD tuner card

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The_Tick:

I hooked up a coax cable tonight, apparently my apartment has cable for free

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The_Tick:

wondering if I can get hdtv for free

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sunnyhours4130:

lol

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tale_:

usually the over the air channels are unencrypted from cablevision

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tale_:

you would need an hdtv tuner card that supports qam

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sunnyhours4130:

brings up an interesting question. do any providers expect you to pay for OTA HDTV?

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tale_:

some encrypt all channels, so yes

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sunnyhours4130:

oh wow. didn't know that

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The_Tick:

so a hdtv card with qam could decrypt the hd channels?

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sunnyhours4130:

i always assumed it was all free.... not sure why

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tale_:

The_Tick, yep

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tale_:

well, technically, it wouldn't be decrypting

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tale_:

it would just be tuning

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tale_:

:-)

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GreyFoxx:

the_ If they encrypt it you wont be able to read it

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tale_:

right

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GreyFoxx:

or I should say, you can read it, bvut can't watch it

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GreyFoxx:

sunnyhours4130: If you are in the US cable providers that rebroadcast the OTA DHTV over cable are not allowed to encrypt those channels

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GreyFoxx:

some might still do it, but they aren't really allowed

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onewheelskyward:

I think we need to differentiate between encoding and encrypting.

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sunnyhours4130:

hmm

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The_Tick:

I have an on-air hdtv antenna

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The_Tick:

which is nice

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The_Tick:

but it flakes sometimes

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The_Tick:

hrmm

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The_Tick:

what's irc/std/hrc?

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baxter_kylie:

Hi. Is it possible to set up mythvideo so that the video list can see parent directories but the gallery and browse views ignore them?

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tank-man:

then how do you go up a directory?

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FasuxE:

has anyone in here gotten the tv402u to work with the new knoppmyth r5c7?

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baxter_kylie:

tank-man: I'm not sure what you're asking. It's possible to disable viewing folders altogether for both the list and the gallery but I'd like to do it one and one.

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tank-man:

no, it is probably me who does not understand. i dont use mythvideo much

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FasuxE:

does anyone know of an install cd knoppmyth, mythdora, etc. that works with the plextor tv402u?

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tank-man:

uknown

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baxter_kylie:

tank-man: Ahh. I see. It's my primary use of myth — all of my and my roommates videos are there.

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GreyFoxx:

baxter_kylie: well, you can set the gallery to not view the filesystem and it will only show stuff read in by the video manager in aflat view I think

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baxter_kylie:

GreyFoxx: Right. But the place where I found that setting also treats the list the same way.

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GreyFoxx:

hrm, I'm sure they are individual settings

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baxter_kylie:

GreyFoxx: It would make sense, wouldn't it?

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GreyFoxx:

They are seperate

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GreyFoxx:

Videosettings -> General Settings -> 2nd page

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GreyFoxx:

There are 3 settings, one for list, browse video and gallery

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GreyFoxx:

For instance I use Videolist to browse the filsystem, but I have galleryview set to only show the stuff imported into video manager

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GreyFoxx:

IE movies and such, not tv shwos

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GreyFoxx:

But I am running a custom patch so that the TV stuff doesn't get imported by video manager at all

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GreyFoxx:

I place a blank ".ignore" file in the directory if I want the video manager to skip it when importing videos

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baxter_kylie:

GreyFoxx: Hm. I'm not seeing it work here. The only thing that affects whether folders appear or not (for me) is toggling the 'show database folders' switch.

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GreyFoxx:

Well that make sense then

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GreyFoxx:

I have that off on my end

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GreyFoxx:

and since the gallery is set to only load from the databse I don't see any fodlers in it

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GreyFoxx:

folders

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baxter_kylie:

GreyFoxx: So how can you browse your fs in your list?

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GreyFoxx:

Videolist is set to browse the filesystem, video gallery doesn't

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baxter_kylie:

GreyFoxx: I'm a bit confused. With 'show database folders' toggled off my video list is just that — a flat list.

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GreyFoxx:

Weird, It's likely due to my hack of apatch as that has no effect on my video list

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The_Tick:

oh sweet

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The_Tick:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Working_ . . . _Time_Warner

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toad-six:

xris – you there? i was using nuvexport's ffmpeg to xvid export, and was ending up with files with very high bitrates yet low quality video – i found that by removing b_qfactor and b_qoffset i solved my problem – can you describe these params in more detail?

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toad-six:

they are set in Xvid.pm, it appears to be new as of changeset 281

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baxter_kylie:

GreyFoxx: Do you know if this has been discussed for a fix? It seems to me that, logically, you would want to be able to define this setting individually. At least I know I do. 120 episodes of a tv series is not useable in any mode without a little fs treeing but that same treeing can make a gallery unusable. :-p

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GreyFoxx:

baxter_kylie: Actually that is why I made my .ignore patch

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GreyFoxx:

I want my movies and such with posters and all to appear in the gallery, but NOT my hundreds of archived tv shows

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GreyFoxx:

so with the patch the gallery doesn't even know the tv shows exist since they never get imported into the database

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GreyFoxx:

but Videolist can see them via the fs tree

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baxter_kylie:

GreyFoxx: Ahh. I was going to do the same thing with categories — defining categories for film, oav, mini, tv, etc.

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GreyFoxx:

baxter_kylie: my patch just skips scanning any directory that contains a.ignore

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GreyFoxx:

so it never even goes into the DB for me to have to deal with

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GreyFoxx:

especially since I move stuff around a lot

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baxter_kylie:

GreyFoxx: Am I to guess that all your videos (proper) are in one directory?

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GreyFoxx:

a .ignore at the top of the "TV" directory and none of those subdirs make it into the system

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GreyFoxx:

baxter_kylie: Yes All moves are in one directory and I sort them via categories

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GreyFoxx:

mythtv@woop:~$ find /data/video/Movies/ -type f | wc -l

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GreyFoxx:

184

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GreyFoxx:

but my TV stuff I don't want in there at all

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baxter_kylie:

GreyFoxx: But are there subdirs to that?

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GreyFoxx:

baxter_kylie: Nope not the Movies directory

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GreyFoxx:

mythvideo points to /data/video which has a several directory trees/mounts

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GreyFoxx:

all of them except for Movies have a.ignore file at the top

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GreyFoxx:

so only the Movies directory gets pulled into the database essentially " hiding" the other stuff from Gallery view

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GreyFoxx:

without me having to edit the info for hundreds of items :)O

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baxter_kylie:

GreyFoxx: (Your Movies folder)

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baxter_kylie:

GreyFoxx: Right. I guess I'm trying to figure out what you patched and how to get the video list to browse your filesystem.

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GreyFoxx:

I patched the videoscan/dir scan code. and when the videomanager is launched to do a scan/import I set a flag to tell it to honour the .ignore files

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GreyFoxx:

Then I leave the gallery to read from the DB only, and videolist to browse the filesystem

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GreyFoxx:

so the gallery only sees the stuff that made it into video manager

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fuseX:

can someone direct me to a way of importing a movie library into myth?

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Smirnov:

Blueray/HDDVD on MythTV possible or not?

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fuseX:

not sure...although i just got mythtv loaded up on the ps3

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Smirnov:

fuseX: i think you just set up mythvideo to point at your movie folder

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GreyFoxx:

Smirnov: at this point there are no players for it

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Smirnov:

why not?

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Smirnov:

how about running Windvd under wine or something

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GreyFoxx:

If you can get it running feel free

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GreyFoxx:

but there are no native linux players

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Smirnov:

there's drivers for blueray/hddvd hardware though?

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GreyFoxx:

Not that I've seen, but It's possible I missed something.

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Smirnov:

shame

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Smirnov:

my dads making an HTPC, was hoping he could play blueray/hddvd without using winblows

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Dagmar:

Blueray is not a DVD.

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Dagmar:

Not by a longshot.

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Dagmar:

You need entirely different software because the data is again, *encrypted*

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Smirnov:

obviously

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Dagmar:

Even though there are cracked players for Windows, there are no players at all that will work in Linux.

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Dagmar:

Give it time.

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Smirnov:

theres cracked players for windows?

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Dagmar:

THe drives are still >$600 a pop

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Dagmar:

Yes, you had to know the way they were acting some professional geeks would jump on it

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Dagmar:

THe keys necessary to play blueray were cracked out like a month ago

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Smirnov:

whats the point of a cracked player for windows if you already have the $600 drive?

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Dagmar:

Damned if I know

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Dagmar:

People did it just to prove it could be done.

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Dagmar:

DRM is a dead-end.

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Dagmar:

Once one or two kernel devs get their hands on one of them for raw data recording purposes, the drivers will get build.

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Smirnov:

hope that happens soon

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Dagmar:

Maybe six months to a year

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Smirnov:

and i hope comcast has most of my channels unencrypted cause i really want to use the htpc as a pvr

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Dagmar:

We desperately need some higher density *stable* media

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Dagmar:

Oh good luck there

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Dagmar:

That varies from market to market

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Dagmar:

You can generally count on the premium channels being enccrypted and unplayable over firewire

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Smirnov:

darn

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Smirnov:

i watch rome on hbo

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Dagmar:

You can do it a weird way and set up mutliple sources

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Dagmar:

ALl the premiums over hte s-video input, the non-premium over firewire

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Smirnov:

yeah but s-video HD...?

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GreyFoxx:

Nope, that would be scaled down to SDTV

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Dagmar:

Meaning you ain't getting it, basically.

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Smirnov:

which sucks

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Smirnov:

cause the HD channels are getting $$$d for you know

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** GreyFoxx orders a QAM capable card tonight, might as well take advantage of the unencrypted digital channels I can get **

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banyan:

The pvr-150 north american model is probably a tuner # 50, correct? even though it is detected as a 57?

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GreyFoxx:

banyan: they have several different tuners on them

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banyan:

I think my two 150 tuners are giving me gray fuzz but my 350 is working. So I think the tuner is being autodetected incorrectly.

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fuseX:

i am getting odd results when i try to play one of my videos with mythtv

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fuseX:

it just says "loading..." then "loading..." disapears and it doesn't play anything

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GreyFoxx:

fuseX: Check the output of mythfrontend, see what if anything it says

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fuseX:

GreyFoxx: hm, mplayer has some output

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fuseX:

it says mplayer: coould not connect to socket

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fuseX:

mplayer: no such file or directory

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fuseX:

even the runtime isnt shown for the video

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fuseX:

it just says 0

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fuseX:

minutes

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GreyFoxx:

and if you run mplayer on the file manually ?

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banyan:

hmm, how do ya set the tuner types in modprobe.conf?

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fuseX:

GreyFoxx: it works great

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dsl29293:

hi, my new mythbox w/ hauppauge pvr350 is working ok: tv out via pvr350's s-video.... but the menus are only on the monitor. Any suggestions?

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banyan:

A PVR-150 is counted as two separate cards, correct?

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Dagmar:

No.

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Dagmar:

It's only one card.

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banyan:

so if I have my 350 and a 150 in the computer, I should be able to specify options ivtv tuner=2,50,50 ?

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Dagmar:

A PVR-500 is treated like two separate cards.

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banyan:

It's one card then with two separate tuners on it?

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cesman:

banyan: which version of ivtv are you using?

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banyan:

0.10.1

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cesman:

in most cases, it should pick up both cards w/o need for options

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banyan:

My 350 works which it always did, but my 150 is I think misdetected and has the tuner type set wrong, because it records static.

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smro1:

i just went through the 0.10.1 upgrade and had a different problem (blank screen) and that seemed to fix it

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Dagmar:

The tuner will reach those frequencies. :)

[04:06:52]

Dagmar:

That would have been very cool to have about seven years ago

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banyan:

I will check that.

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smro1:

banyan, or try deleting your tuner cards and rebuilding them in mythtv-setup. those were tips that i found

[04:17:30]

banyan:

ah! so far so good. Have two recordings happening now and both are good.

[04:21:20]

banyan:

So, um, now the next thing is with my mceusb2 lirc thing.

[04:22:24]

banyan:

I just need to stick the gray hauppauge remote bit into the config file.

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banyan:

Hey, have you ever had any recordings where the pitch of the audio appears to be raised?

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dsl29841:

my pvr-350 outputs tv fine via s-video, but menus don't show there. Menus only show on the monitor. How can I get menus to display via the pvr350's s-video out?

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xanderp:

ok, i just did a rebuild on fc6 on new hardware moving my 2 pvr150's and my pvr350 to the new box. It all appears working but i can not tune most of my channels. any ideas please?

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banyan:

it's like the decoding of the audio misinterprets all the frequencies upward in the playback.

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banyan:

I'm thinking it's up about a major third.

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onewheelskyward:

banyan: Are you sure the time stretch isn't enabled?

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banyan:

It's 1x

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banyan:

And I'm watching it while it's recording so it has to be 1x

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banyan:

It's the South Park Rodeo one where Cartman becomes a Vietnamese prostitute and rides a bull... "fie dorra soldier boah"

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onewheelskyward:

heh that must be funny as heck.

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banyan:

It almost sounds normal but certain things are clearly raised in pitch, e.g. commercials, the theme song.

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dsl29841:

any ideas on getting a pvr350 to output myth's menus?

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dsl29841:

(it's outputting tv fine via s-video)

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tank-man:

xanderp, what did you do to try and troubleshoot it? the info you gave is not enough to infer anything

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xanderp:

tank-man: I'm not sure where to start. dmesg appears to have all three cards correctly detected and started under ivtv.

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xanderp:

yes, i can get video from all three cards, but not all my channels are there... most of them are static/blank.

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tank-man:

did you setup your channels in mythtv-setup ? and then run mythfilldatabase after?

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xanderp:

i'm pretty sure i did, but I will do it again just to be sure.

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tank-man:

can you tune channels with the ivtv tools?

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onewheelskyward:

Banyan — have you tried other audio output on your system? I just remembered that there's one stream that, when I play it in xmms, has a similar problem.

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xanderp:

do i need to 'scan' on each tuner? they are all on the same cable tv?

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xanderp:

dang... sometimes it's the easy stuff... after rescanning the channels it is working ... thanks!

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hjohnson:

well, my roommate's car just bit it.

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banyan:

If irw works for my regular user, why would the mythfrontend not use the remote?

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banyan:

I will maybe switch the playback to my monitor and see if everyone is munchkinified.

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MarkT-:

Would a 800 Mhz Pentium 3 be fast enough to run mythtv if it had a hardware mpeg2 encoding card?

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bill_:

errors running mythtv-setup, I think it's a problem with x, this is my second clean isntall of ubuntu edgy follwing a guide step-by-step

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bill_:

could someone look at a pastebin for me?

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onewheelskyward:

Only if you paste it. :)

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MarkT-:

Can mythtv work with tv tuner cards that are pcmcia?

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bill_:

onewheelskyward: ok :) http://pastebin.ca/403202

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bill_:

MarkT-: depends if the chip inside is supported, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Category . . . apture_cards

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banyan:

off topic but anyone using a logitech bluetooth keyboard / mouse?

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onewheelskyward:

Is X running when you run mythtv setup?

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onewheelskyward:

nope...but I am using logitech RF wireless swag.

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banyan:

My mouse does this thing where the signals get 'laggy' every so often. the mouse motion on the screen is behind the mouse motion in my hand.

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bill_:

onewheelskyward: sorry, I should have been more descriptive of the problem, I'm runnign a default install of ubuntu edgy, and when I run mythtv-setup, I get the config screen but no border window, would you like a screenshot?

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onewheelskyward:

banyan: That happens to me too — I usually reposition the sensor or replace the battery if it's been a while.

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MarkT-:

bill: how do I find out which chip is inside?

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onewheelskyward:

bill_: Sure.

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bill_:

MarkT-: google, i can peek too, what card is it?

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MarkT-:

The one I was looking at was called AverTV Cardbus

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MarkT-:

Of course, this is all going to be moot if the computer won't be fast enough to do this...

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banyan:

I think I have some kind of issue with the hid.

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bill_:

MarkT-: what type laptop/specs?

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bill_:

onewheelskyward: http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/billyk128/mythsetup.png

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onewheelskyward:

Tjat

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banyan:

there's a point where maybe the mouse goes from just being BIOS-recognised as a USB mouse and a USB keyboard to it being recognised as a bluetooth keyboard / mouse, but at this point they get disconnected and I need to pull the fob and reinsert it. (this happens to me on startup)

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MarkT-:

it's got a p3 800 Mhz cpu inside... only a 10g hd, but I can upgrade that.

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onewheelskyward:

That's normal, Bill. What's the issue?

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onewheelskyward:

banyan: That's odd..I've had my own issues with USB devices.

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bill_:

oh, screenshots I saw at file:///home/bill/Desktop/web/MythTV_mythtvsetup show it running in a window

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bill_:

crap/ duh, he's running everything in a vmware to show the tutorial

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onewheelskyward:

Hmm, that's strange. It's always full screen on my app.

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onewheelskyward:

Oh heh

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bill_:

lol

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onewheelskyward:

Well kudos to you for trying to do it by the book. :)

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bill_:

well, I did say "what the heck" and tried setup last time and got stuck somewhere else..forget exactly where though

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MarkT-:

actually, I'm just about to check the ram here... and see if I can put more in.

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bill_:

we'll see if it happens again, my tuner does work in tvtime though

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bill_:

MarkT-: doesn't look like there's a lot of support for the card you mentioned

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bill_:

linux support*

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MarkT-:

hmmm... the extra laptop memory I had doesn't work in that machine... so all it has is 128M

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MarkT-:

okay, is there a pcmcia card that _does_ work with mythtv?

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bill_:

problem again, just did all the mythtv-setup steps and hit esc to close, error "card 0 is set to start on channel 3 which does not exist

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bill_:

but i just did a channel scan and it saw the right channels that I have

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bill_:

Card 0 (type ) is set to start on channel 3, which does not exist.

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dennister:

hello ppl...i'm having some troubles with a good, working installation of mythtv that — all of a sudden --is conking out on me constantly

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dennister:

for no apparent reason, the tuner just stops working, i exit, try to watch tv again, and it says all channels are already being used...when it isn't

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dennister:

correction "all available inputs are already being used"

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dennister:

the backend is often dying in the middle of a recording, but the ps is still running

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dennister:

anyone? yes, i have done the mysqlcheck thing

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dennister:

it's awfully frustrating to have to 1) find the pid 2) kill the pid 3) restart the backend from terminal to see if there are errors (none) 4) start mythfrontend from terminal to check if there are errors there...(once it was an ivtv driver thing, twice now it's been a ring buffer error in an invalid recording)

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dennister:

and how in the world do you fix a ringbuf error?

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dennister:

k...some more digging and it seems the ivtvdriver is dying...that's what's behind ringbuf errors...but why all of a sudden? worked great for months...

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dennister:

k, well everyone seems to be asleep...later

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Chai_Sangeen:

hello everbody

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Chai_Sangeen:

quick question just bought a "Twinhan dvb-s" do i just follow these instructions http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t= . . . winhan+dvb-s till step 8 and then setup the rest on mythtv? I already have mythtv up and running but with no capture cards..

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juski:

what what what ;)

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rsdvd:

Good Afternoon Juski

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juski:

looks like blootubelite-wide & blootubeosd are gonna be included in minimyth from now on :)

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rsdvd:

:-) congratualtions

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juski:

just realised there's a new version of minimyth I need to try on my epia frontend too

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juski:

hope there's not been a protocol/schema update recently

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Merlin83b:

I may have asked before, juski, but do you boot from USB?

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juski:

nope

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juski:

it'd be too slow on an epia I think

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Merlin83b:

There's a bit on the minimyth site that says some people find it incredibly slow.

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juski:

yeah I read that

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Merlin83b:

I could set up DHCP/network booting I guess...

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Merlin83b:

Is that what you do?

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juski:

aye. for the time/effort involved it's well worth it

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Merlin83b:

I have an m10k sitting around that I could use for a FE in the bedroom.

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rsdvd:

pablo has said that the slooooow booting should be fixed after he moved the order of things around

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Merlin83b:

The only machine I could use to do the netbooting really is the combined fe/be m10k

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rsdvd:

but pxe/netbooting takes seconds to setup so it is preferable

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rsdvd:

you can use any machine to do the netboot – even a windows machine

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juski:

anyway – back to playing with my esata box

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Merlin83b:

Yeah will play with it at some point.

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Dibblah:

If only you could netboot Windows :(

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Dibblah:

Well, without paying through the nose.

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rsdvd:

Dibblah ; you can I think : I am usre I read about netbootin win98...not sure about XP though

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Como|Lappy:

netboot, eh?

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Como|Lappy:

look up xp embedded

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Como|Lappy:

aka xp-e

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Como|Lappy:

thats what they use on ATMs and shit, should be fairly easy to net boot it

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bobbob1016:

I currently have Windows MCE2005 on a PC. I want to change it to MythTV, but I was wondering if anyone had some experience setting it up in different situations. I don't know what the cable frequency here is, and I might be switching to either DirectTV, or upgrading the cable to more than 125 channels. I have an ATI TV Wonder card, does anyone know what the difficulty in setting either of these up would be?

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gardengnome:

have you tried google or the manual?

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gardengnome:

or the wiki?

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KaZeR:

talking about google, is the mythcalendar plugin dead? it could be nice to read google calendar from myth..

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bobbob1016:

I've been googling, I have found some things, I was just wondering if anyone with a similar setup could tell me if it is difficult to do or not. I don't want to risk a working setup. I found some directions, but either for just the ATI card, or DirectTV, but nothing together

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juski:

hahahaha we need to program the eeprom on the board, but it won't initialise so we can program it without the eeprom programmed already

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juski:

fcuking retarded programming software

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jolger:

hello...

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jolger:

i have a little problem wich i hope someone here could help me resolve...

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jolger:

when i start the mythtv backend, and then the frontend, first of all i cant watch tv -_- but also i get this error: MainServer: HandleRemoteEncoder(cmd GET_STATE) Unknown encoder: 1, exiting when trying to view the tuner status in the info center...

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jolger:

has anyone got any idea of how to fix this?

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jolger:

i have a medion tv-tuner7134

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jolger:

please? anyone?

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KaZeR:

did you set the correct capture card type in the mythtv-setup?

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jolger:

i dont think so... but then again... it should be the one...

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jolger:

it also says that the capture card might not be set up...

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KaZeR:

you should start by checking your setups then.

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jolger:

i did...

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jolger:

actually...

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KaZeR:

does the capture card works in another program?

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jolger:

and it says "medion tv tuner"

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jolger:

not at the moment...

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jolger:

if you might right this instant

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jolger:

but i can watch analog tv in tvtime and xawtv

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jolger:

i dont know if my card is dvb capable...

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jolger:

and if it was, it isnt supported yet as far as i know...

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jolger:

might

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jolger:

argh

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jolger:

might = mean

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KaZeR:

so, you can watch tv with xawtv, right?

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jolger:

yeh

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jolger:

and tvtime

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KaZeR:

good starting point then :)

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jolger:

XD

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KaZeR:

try setting the tv card type to v4L device (from memory, not sure).

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KaZeR:

something like that, at least

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eulin:

hi all

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KaZeR:

hi eulin

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eulin:

How I can do if I want mythvideo doesen't follow symlink?

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jolger:

if i look in the mythtv-setup i see [ V4L] :/dev/video0

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jolger:

and another one wich i tried to set up too...

[14:00:59]

jolger:

but nothing works -_-

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GreyFoxx:

eulin: I don't think thre is an option to not follow symlinks

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KaZeR:

brb..

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** j-rod needs a test monkey **

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jolger:

eulin -> the general option in mythtv-setup

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jolger:

but i think you have to take it all the way through -_-

[14:02:29]

eulin:

I want only to ignore a dir(link) in mythvideo path

[14:02:51]

jolger:

there is an option that says "follow sym-links" or something like that

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jolger:

i think unchecking that would disable it :P XD

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KaZeR:

this option is 'force' not 'allow' i believe

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eulin:

you are so perspicacityes :P

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jolger:

so ummm... KaZeR: got any ideas as to what i should do?

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eulin:

but If I wanto to ignore just a dir not all symlink how I can do?some hacks?

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GreyFoxx:

jolger: I don't think that is the right option

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GreyFoxx:

That is for deleting recordings, not for mythvideo

[14:05:06]

jolger:

umm yeah...

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jolger:

i thought that was what eulin meant

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GreyFoxx:

no, he wants to not follow a symlink to a directory under mythvideo

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jolger:

hmm...

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jolger:

then i have no idea XD

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GreyFoxx:

eulin: Mythvideo doesn't allow for that

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jolger:

just started using mythtv a few days ago :P

[14:05:53]

jolger:

or rather...

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jolger:

setting it up -_-

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eulin:

I have created a symlink to recording path on mythvideo path and I want to ignore thath dir for less confusion

[14:06:55]

GreyFoxx:

eulin: Why not just remove the symlink ?

[14:07:19]

eulin:

because I want it only on my "desktop usage"

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GreyFoxx:

ahh

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rsdvd:

eulin : why not set the permissions on the link to somthing the myth user cannot follow

[14:07:53]

eulin:

rsdvd, nice idea

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rsdvd:

:-)

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GreyFoxx:

Well , I have apatch that does what you describe, but it only ignores the directory when scanning it into the database with the video manager,

[14:08:09]

eulin:

rsdvd, mhh How I can set that'

[14:08:11]

eulin:

?

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jolger:

chmod it

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rsdvd:

lol.....chmod

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jolger:

XD

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GreyFoxx:

So if you have itset to browse the filesystem it wouldn't work, but if you read from the database only it would

[14:08:35]

eulin:

also chown :P

[14:08:38]

jolger:

chmod 700 (should?) work...

[14:08:59]

eulin:

yes I have an ignorance moment

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rsdvd:

jolger :depends who owns the link

[14:09:05]

jolger:

yeah

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eulin:

ok I can try with this

[14:09:08]

jolger:

sudo chmod :P

[14:09:27]

jolger:

and chown "some user who is not mythtv"

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eulin:

emh

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eulin:

If I set permission on the symlink the real dir will be inaccessible from mythtv

[14:10:21]

GreyFoxx:

eulin: Which view do you usually use? gallery? video list ?

[14:10:30]

eulin:

gallery

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GreyFoxx:

and do you have it set to browse the filesystem ?

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rsdvd:

eulin : the permission of a link to a directlry will not affect the permission ofthe actuall directory

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jolger:

i just made myself a fool didnt i? XD

[14:10:58]

GreyFoxx:

or do you use video manager to bring in new videos?

[14:11:14]

eulin:

GreyFoxx, no just the path reserved for mythvideo

[14:11:26]

eulin:

rsdvd, yes I think same but no

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rsdvd:

eulin : if it changed the perms on the directory – you did somethign wrong :-)

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jolger:

i think that it would affect the directory if you did -R ?

[14:12:48]

jolger:

chmod -R that is...

[14:12:48]

GreyFoxx:

eulin: In the video settings do you have "Video Gallery browses files" turned on ?

[14:13:11]

jolger:

and also chown has the -R option...

[14:13:21]

eulin:

jolger, thank you I have used the fucked gui of nautilus :-D

[14:13:28]

jolger:

DOH!

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jolger:

dont set it recursively :P

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eulin:

jolger, no I am not so stupid :D

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jolger:

recursively follows the link and sets those permissions to everything bellow...

[14:14:24]

eulin:

GreyFoxx, No I don't think

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jolger:

as far as i know...

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rsdvd:

eulin : try not to use nautilus – it can do some rather unexpected thigns

[14:14:37]

eulin:

rsdvd, yes now bash rulez

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jolger:

rsdvd -> true XD

[14:15:02]

GreyFoxx:

eulin: If it's not on, then your gallery is only showing you the videos seen by VideoManager, which means this patch would do what you want

[14:15:09]

GreyFoxx:

if it's browsing the filesystem it wont help you

[14:15:18]

GreyFoxx:

But it also assumes you are compiling from source of course

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rsdvd:

GreyFoxx : if he asked how to change perms...I doubt he has built from source

[14:16:29]

eulin:

GreyFoxx, mhh soon I want to compile the latest svn version and when I do it I can test your patch :-)

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eulin:

rsdvd, I'm not so stupid just I don't have a good english :D

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GreyFoxx:

rsdvd: You can never assume that. Many come in here compiling from source who you wouldn'yt expect too

[14:17:46]

** sandeen_ eagerly awaits the arrival of his new learning all in one remote **

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rsdvd:

ok – sorry!

[14:18:10]

GreyFoxx:

general *nix admin stuff is much more complex than simple compiling of an app

[14:18:24]

eulin:

but the 0.21 version will be released soon?

[14:18:26]

GreyFoxx:

at least on sane distros anyway

[14:18:39]

** sandeen_ wonders what's new in 0.21 **

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GreyFoxx:

eulin: Not likely. It's not being planned yet

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sandeen_:

oh I guess everyone wonders :)

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jolger:

video device = tv tuner

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rsdvd:

I just assume that anyone using nautilus probably does not have a good grasp of linux

[14:19:22]

jolger:

/bin/bash ftw! :P

[14:19:35]

eulin:

sandeen_, I've see somethings like Storage Groups, not intrepts?

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sandeen_:

intrepts? sorry ENOPARSE :)

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GreyFoxx:

Storage groups are nifty

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** sandeen_ looks them up **

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eulin:

interested*

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rsdvd:

storage groups are one of the biggest steps forward in myth for ages (IMHO)

[14:20:48]

recon39:

can someone in here help me setup mythfrontend to get my dvd rip to work

[14:20:53]

GreyFoxx:

I think every once in awhile someone updates the wiki with stuff that has changed since 0.20 was released

[14:20:53]

eulin:

GreyFoxx, What's mean nifty?

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sandeen_:

GreyFoxx, there is a page :)

[14:21:24]

jolger:

nifty is like... good?

[14:21:31]

rsdvd:

recon39 : have you still not got ripping working?

[14:21:32]

jolger:

or something like that...

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GreyFoxx:

eulin: Interesting/cool/excellent

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recon39:

it says no jobs checking or waiting for dvd's

[14:21:43]

sandeen_:

oh so it's a way to send your recordings to one place or another....

[14:21:44]

eulin:

jolger, ok thank your for translate :P

[14:21:56]

jolger:

<GreyFoxx> eulin: Interesting/cool/excellent

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jolger:

i think thats more describing :P

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recon39:

no rsdvd I redone everything it plays them now

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sandeen_:

i guess i'm not quite sure why that's so incredibly great? :)

[14:22:16]

eulin:

now I go to buy a dictionary :D

[14:22:21]

jolger:

lol

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sandeen_:

maybe I just haven't run into the problem they solve

[14:22:31]

jolger:

but ummm...

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recon39:

I can rip them when not on mythtv

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jolger:

has anyone got 5 minutes or something to help me?

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eulin:

jolger, yes if you have simple problem .-)

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jolger:

haha XD

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rsdvd:

sandeen_ : untill storagegoups – all recording went int he same directory.......so you needed a single large directory. Now you can set each to record whereever you like and categorise 'mine', 'kids' etc

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GreyFoxx:

It will auto loadbalance for you as well

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jolger:

my capture card isnt working apparently x_x

[14:23:41]

jolger:

i can watch tv in xawtv and tvtime...

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jolger:

but i cant in mythtv...

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sandeen_:

so now mythtv is a volume manager, cool! :)

[14:23:51]

GreyFoxx:

you can also say that specific shows go in(or livetv) storage group A, while otherstuff into Storage group B

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sandeen_:

GreyFoxx, was IO load really a problem?

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eulin:

jolger, mhh dvb or analogic?

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rsdvd:

jogler : are there any errors in the log files?

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jolger:

analog... atm i have no idea if my card is dvb capable...

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eulin:

tvtime then analogic

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jolger:

wait...

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GreyFoxx:

sandeen_: For some people. {People recording from several HDTV sources, while streaming, transcoding and comflagging all at once

[14:24:46]

jolger:

if i look in mythtv-setup

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jolger:

i see that there is one card configured...

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sandeen_:

GreyFoxx, ah, I suppose

[14:24:57]

jolger:

wich is the right one...

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eulin:

Could not get inputs for the capturecard.

[14:25:07]

eulin:

Perhaps you have forgotten to bind video

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eulin:

sources to your card's inputs?

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jolger:

okay...

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rsdvd:

jogler : I take it you have sources setup and bound to a card input?

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GreyFoxx:

sandeen_: Mostly it's for the easy of spreading the recordings and controlling what goes where without having to rebuild a new raidarray or lvm setup

[14:25:31]

jolger:

now... how do i "bin video sources to my cards input" ?

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jolger:

bind*

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rsdvd:

RTFM

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eulin:

jolger, go to mythtv-setup

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GreyFoxx:

jold: mythtv-setup, input connections

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eulin:

and search video-sources

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rsdvd:

mythtv-setup......work down the options

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GreyFoxx:

under input connections you say what video source is on what card input

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sandeen_:

GreyFoxx, thanks

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rsdvd:

jolger : what are you using for a source?

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jolger:

one sec.

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jolger:

omg...

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jolger:

thats the one step i forgot... "slaps himself for bothering others"

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rsdvd:

:-)

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rsdvd:

"the one step" – but a real biggie :-)

[14:27:34]

jolger:

dammit...

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eulin:

I need somethins better of google translate

[14:27:50]

jolger:

i thought that was done with the other video source thingy...

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recon39:

rsdvd: do you have any ideas to get mythfront end to rip the dvd's

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eulin:

now It's time for Simpson encoding

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rsdvd:

recon39 ; sorry no!

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recon39:

it says no jobs checking and or waiting for dvd's

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recon39:

ok thanks

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rsdvd:

I had that for a while – and after 'twiddling' with things it just works (TM)

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recon39:

I just dont know what to twiddle with

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rsdvd:

neither did I – I just redid everything!

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recon39:

has to be somethig simple

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jolger:

sudo /etc/cron.daily/mythtv-backend <<< oh great... last time i did this, it took like... 20 minutes or something o_O

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GreyFoxx:

jold: What does that cronjob do ?

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jolger:

updates the channel info? XD

[14:31:23]

eulin:

jolger, do you know multitaks? :D

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jolger:

from xmltv

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GreyFoxx:

Oh, that's for calling mythfilldatabase then? Not very clearly named :)

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jolger:

yeh XD

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recon39:

bye everyone thanks for the help

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jolger:

i didnt name it :P

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jolger:

cya

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eulin:

bye

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rsdvd:

jogler ; feel lucky – a full update for my channels takes about 1–2 hours :-) butthen I have access to 250 channels

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jolger:

OMG!

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GreyFoxx:

wow, that's crazy

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eulin:

omfg

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jolger:

i have like... 8 channels?

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jolger:

on analog...

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eulin:

i have 6 channel

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jolger:

and 2 or 3 on dvb...

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eulin:

on dvb :D

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rsdvd:

I know – I will get round to removing all the satellite crap I never watch someday!

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jolger:

but sadly i cant watch dvb yet...

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jolger:

lol

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jolger:

eulin -> from?

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GreyFoxx:

Mine takes 20 minutes for afull update and I have 630 channels

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jolger:

lol

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eulin:

jolger, italia :-)

[14:33:31]

jolger:

oh XD

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jolger:

nice ^^

[14:33:38]

rsdvd:

GreyFoxx : you must have a better spec'd box than me :-)

[14:33:46]

GreyFoxx:

Xp2500+

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GreyFoxx:

for my master backend+main frontend

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jolger:

p4 3ghz here :P

[14:34:03]

jolger:

for everything :P

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eulin:

jolger, it's better spoke english natively than born in italy

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jolger:

huh?

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GreyFoxx:

but I also use zap2it's xml feed, so you might also be affected by your datasource

[14:34:28]

eulin:

jolger, english?

[14:34:31]

jolger:

no...

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rsdvd:

GreyFoxx : I have not watched how long it takes for ages – itis cron;d for some ungoldly hour in the mornign

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jolger:

i live in denmark...

[14:34:39]

jolger:

am born in germany :P

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eulin:

jolger, good for you :-)

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jolger:

why is that good for me? x_x

[14:35:29]

jolger:

i'd rather say the opposite... XD but okay ^^

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eulin:

someone knows lvm?

[14:36:31]

Dibblah:

I'm sure someone does.

[14:36:35]

Dibblah:

Badda boom.

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rsdvd:

lol

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jolger:

?o_O?

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eulin:

rsdvd, do you have experience with lvm?

[14:37:36]

rsdvd:

eulin : I use it :-)

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rsdvd:

depends what you want to know

[14:37:51]

gr33npho3nix:

hi guys, i'm back so with nuvexport --transcode on ubuntu i managed to get a divx avi file from my .nuv file, the only problem is the sound isn't coming through. Can anybody help me get the sound?

[14:38:17]

gr33npho3nix:

I am told I have a software tuner so I am not getting mpegs from my recordings, but nupplevideo

[14:38:38]

eulin:

rsdvd, simple question I have do some lvm volume and I don't want to display it on my desktop(nautilus)

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rsdvd:

that is not an LVM issue......you cannot (as far as I know) elect to hide lvm logical volumes......the best you can do is not to mount them......but then they are not available to anyone

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jolger:

mount it in /mnt

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jolger:

instead of /media

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jolger:

that (should?) do the trick...

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jolger:

true...

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eulin:

good I haven't think about that

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jolger:

or mount it in ~ XD

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eulin:

I can moun it /myth

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jolger:

you can mouny wherever you want as far as i know... as long as you just have and emtpy (or non-empty???) directory...

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jolger:

mount*

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GreyFoxx:

doesn't even need to be empty heh

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rsdvd:

Why do you want to 'hide' this volume?

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jolger:

some people have ummm "sensitive" date on some disks? :P

[14:43:16]

jolger:

data*

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rsdvd:

lol....porn?

[14:43:24]

jolger:

yeah :P

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eulin:

rsdvd, because I don't have more space on my desktop

[14:43:26]

jolger:

i have atleast...

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eulin:

jolger, truecrypt it's good for port :P

[14:43:45]

jolger:

huh?

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eulin:

porn*

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jolger:

why would i want to hide my porn?

[14:43:53]

jolger:

:P

[14:43:59]

jolger:

or encrypt it for that matter :P

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GreyFoxx:

My porn is right there in my video directory, I don't need to hide it :)

[14:44:14]

jolger:

im the only one using my machine :P

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rsdvd:

lol

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eulin:

maybe you don't have a sister :p

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GreyFoxx:

eulin: I do, she lives in her own house :) And they have their own mythbox with their own porn ;)

[14:45:07]

eulin:

GreyFoxx, yeah this it's a good family

[14:45:47]

GreyFoxx:

My family is not what you call, sensitive about stuff like that :)

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eulin:

but there is no privacy in my country :P

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eulin:

ok lvm problem "fixed" thank you all :-)

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rsdvd:

jogler : there is suposed to be some psrt if PIN protection of directories (I think I read somewhere)

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eulin:

the pin work only with sister under 8

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jolger:

ummm... if i get a 404 while updating the database... do i have to do it again? or does it ignore the not found?

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rsdvd:

what has updating the database have to do with HTTP error codes?

[14:54:16]

eulin:

maybe the xmltv parser?

[14:54:19]

jolger:

i mean the "fill database"

[14:54:28]

jolger:

when it tries to get the logos

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eulin:

there is no problem try later

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jolger:

okay...

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jolger:

thanks

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rsdvd:

arh......well at least that make sense

[14:55:39]

jolger:

WOOOT

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jolger:

i've got tv :D

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rsdvd:

:-)

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eulin:

jolger, just curiosity do you have dvb-t in your country?

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jolger:

only problem is that i have no sound... but that is solved by starting mythfrontend with my little script :D

[14:56:48]

jolger:

yeh

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jolger:

but only like... 2 channels or something -_-

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jolger:

denmark is a bit behind on that point :P

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rsdvd:

jolger : no sound – you must be using a 'lamegrabber' :-)

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eulin:

jolger, what script?sometimes i have the same problems

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jolger:

2 sec.

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jolger:

my script for starting tvtime

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jolger:

i guess i could use the same for mythfrontend ?

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eulin:

jolger, maybe you can do it just configuring mythtv

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jolger:

maybe...

[15:00:04]

jolger:

but i need dma sound...

[15:00:11]

jolger:

i dont have the little cable i need :P

[15:00:27]

juski:

so buy a proper card already – dump the lamegrabber

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eulin:

I have the cable but I have a fucked case..now just dvb :D

[15:01:21]

jolger:

medion tv-tuner7134 modem hybrid

[15:01:45]

juski:

oh nice. a PoS from Aldi :)

[15:01:49]

jolger:

:P

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jolger:

but i havent got a clue if its dvb capable -_-

[15:02:08]

jolger:

thats the only problem i have :P

[15:02:24]

juski:

yeah not having a clue can be a problem ;)

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eulin:

jolger, try modprobe saa7134-dvb

[15:02:45]

eulin:

and look dmesg

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jolger:

ooooh no no no no

[15:03:09]

jolger:

i already tried several times...

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jolger:

its not supported yet if its dvb capable...

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eulin:

jolger, what kernel?

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jolger:

i took some pic's for mkrufky on #linuxtv ... but he aint there -_-

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jolger:

2.6.17-11-generic

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eulin:

mhh with my pinnacle I have the support for dvb only from 2.6.16 and later

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jolger:

hm...

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jolger:

well...

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jolger:

as said... it isnt supported yet from what i heard..

[15:05:29]

jolger:

...*

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jolger:

thats why i took the pics...

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jolger:

for the guy that is missing XD

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jolger:

it might aswell be that it isnt dvb capable at all... -_-

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jolger:

but well...

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eulin:

you can wait linus buy your card or buy a new card :P

[15:06:18]

jolger:

why would i watch dvb if i can get the same channels (and more) on analog? :P

[15:06:33]

eulin:

because dvb it's dvb :P

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jolger:

lol

[15:06:45]

jolger:

digital video broadcasting...

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eulin:

yeah

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jolger:

whats so great about it if there arent any channels? :P

[15:07:37]

eulin:

jolger, i think...in your situations just the name it's great :D

[15:08:00]

jolger:

haha XD true :P

[15:08:15]

jolger:

its like "ey mate, i have dvb at home and you dont :P HAHA" :P

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rsdvd:

jolger : the difference is digital transmission – so your quality will be better and the PC will not need to do as much work to encode it

[15:08:38]

eulin:

jolger, exactly :D

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dustybin:

jolger: u silly sausage

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jolger:

rsdvd -> i know :P

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jolger:

dustybin -> why am i a sausage?

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eulin:

i like sausage

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dustybin:

me too

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eulin:

but Krauti nooooo

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jolger:

o_O

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dustybin:

im gonna get some t.shirts printed "mythtv put a dent in my electric bill"

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eulin:

and behind "I'm very happy for that"

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dustybin:

aye

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jolger:

LOL

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hjohnson:

we only pay $0.061/kwh here

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jolger:

i dunno how much it is here :P

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jolger:

i dont pay... so i dont care :P

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hjohnson:

so running the 6 spindle athlon 64 X2 in the basement isn't that big of a deal

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eulin:

make it simple "Don't pay"

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jolger:

huh?

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eulin:

jolger, also I use the method "Don't pay and live happy"

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jolger:

im gonna hear this song through and then im gonna watch some TV and explore mythtv :P

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jolger:

lol

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eulin:

ok it's time for simpson

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eulin:

bye

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jolger:

ah... simpsons is at 5:30 pm here :P

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jolger:

so not yet :P

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dustybin:

57 programmes, using 85 GB (2 days 6 hrs 59 mins) out of 239 GB (148 GB free).

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eulin|simpsons:

jolger, are 16:15 here I have record that :D

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jolger:

its 16:15 here too :P

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jolger:

but okay... italy – denmark :P

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eulin|simpsons:

I have simpson at lunch time :-D

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jolger:

lol...

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jolger:

oooooooh i LOOOOVEEE the new Infected Mushroom album :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

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dustybin:

trance sux

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jolger:

its psy trance :P but okay if thats how you see it :P

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jolger:

i LOOOOVE IT!

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jolger:

but also i like metallica

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jolger:

and system of a down

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jolger:

i know it sounds weird :P

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shodan-:

uh, what's with all tha linuxmce chatter ? is it any good ? , I'd check but their server is a small lump of molted iron now

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shodan-:

*that

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gardengnome:

are on they on slashdot or something?

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jams:

digg

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gardengnome:

bah, digg. i can't stand the never-ending "lolz five most valuable tricks to pimp your ubuntu" anymore.

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jams:

i haven't been able to read slashdot for years because of stuff like that. Digg is becoming the same

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jams:

it just has a higher rate of new articles

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gardengnome:

web 2.0 is bound to fail anyways because it's about "user-created" content

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Chai_Sangeen:

hello

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KaZeR:

hi Chai_Sangeen

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Chai_Sangeen:

KaZeR, i just installed a dvb-s card tested it in caffeine and its working fine.... prob is i don't know how to figure it out in myth can u help?

[16:07:10]

Chai_Sangeen:

KaZeR, im stuck with the "Video Source Name"

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KaZeR:

i don't know about dvb-s, but i can try to help

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KaZeR:

for 'standard' card this is /dev/v4l/video0 e.g.

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KaZeR:

you should be able to find this info somewhere in caffeine i think

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Chai_Sangeen:

KaZeR, okay let me check cause i just plugged in any name in that field, lol i'll check and get back 2 u

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KaZeR:

ok

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juski:

linuxmce == that fscking pesky toadbitch / plutohome effort

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juski:

looks as fugly as a fugly thing

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KaZeR:

Chai_Sangeen, it could.

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juski:

linuxmce includes some of mythtv, but that doesn't make it any good ;)

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Chai_Sangeen:

KaZeR, naa didn't work ...

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Chai_Sangeen:

KaZeR, im sure i've seen it somewhere can't remeber!

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rsdvd:

juski : have you noticed the linuxmce homepage ?

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juski:

rsdvd: someone at work emailed me a link to it last week

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juski:

http://linuxmce.com/wiki/index.php/Screenshots

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juski:

looks like festering doggypoo IMHO

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rsdvd:

the site is down....says something about no coping with the overwhelmingly high demand after a dig posting

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juski:

heheh

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juski:

serves em right

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rsdvd:

:-)

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juski:

and goes to prove that where there's hype, there's shite

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rsdvd:

lol

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onewheelskyward:

If it was slashdotting last yeah, what do you call digdotting?

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gardengnome:

reated DoS ;)

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onewheelskyward:

haha

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eulin:

re

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rsdvd:

rflmao

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juski:

and you digg a hole to put the slashdot into ...?

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eulin:

rsdvd, mhh I have some problem with the symlink permission solutions

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rsdvd:

lol.....I knew that would come back to haunt me :-)

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eulin:

rsdvd, ihihi I'm your worse nightmare

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clif4d:

is it usual that x11 video output in mythtv's internal player is much more cpu hungry than mplayer with x11 output?

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rsdvd:

eulin : oh no – I have worse nighmares than you :-)

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rsdvd:

eulin : what is the problem now?

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eulin:

rsdvd, rsdvd, the symlink have the same permission of the target how I can do a different permission?

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juski:

"selected device is not Rigel"... WTF is that sposed to mean ffs?

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rsdvd:

if you have a symlink it appears as it's own inode – therefore has it's own permissions

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rsdvd:

Rigel is a star in Orion!

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jolger_tv:

hmmm... guys...

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jolger_tv:

i dont have any sound in mythtv -_-

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eulin:

rsdvd, mhh I have created link ln -s /myth/recordings ~/Multimedia/Records

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eulin:

if I set chmod 700 to ~/....Records

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eulin:

the target have the same perm

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eulin:

where I am wrong?

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rsdvd:

if you chmod the /myth/recordings......does that change the symlink?

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eulin:

rsdvd, yes

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rsdvd:

what OS are you using?

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eulin:

lol

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eulin:

linux :D

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rsdvd:

:-) just checking

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eulin:

rsdvd, ok now It work

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eulin:

in my country we say boh

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eulin:

ok I need to reboot

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eulin:

bye

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Smirnov:

thats ridiculous

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MarkT-:

garden: none at the moment... I was considering buying a PCMCIA one for it.

[17:04:48]

onewheelskyward:

In the days of 840mhz P3's, 128 was a lot.

[17:05:19]

gardengnome:

good luck getting something that's supported. it'll probably be a framegrabber card, the cpu will have a lot of work then. the quality might not be as good with 840MHz then

[17:05:21]

MarkT-:

My wife's workplace was throwing out an old laptop that windows xp won't work on, so I nabbed it.

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Dibblah:

Just use Vista with Readyboost ;)

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MarkT-:

I was planning on using Linux

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Dibblah:

Heh.

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MarkT-:

The hardware itself seems fine...

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MarkT-:

but I need to get more ram for it, huh?

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Dibblah:

If you can.

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gardengnome:

yes

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** MarkT- sighs. **

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Dibblah:

You'll probably be limited to 256Mb max.

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gardengnome:

256MB at *least*

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Dibblah:

If it's a intel BX chipset.

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MarkT-:

it's a dell inspiron i8000... whatever chipset that had in it.

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JimProfit:

guys!!! I am having trouble getting knoppmythtv to scan for tv channels, anyone know why? Configured 1–4 on the backend, and 5 – edit channels, I scan and NOTHING! I have tried 4 tuners and bought a different one today! Still nothing! Anyone give any pointers???

[17:14:58]

JimProfit:

ok this sucks! I will have to go with win32, I really didn't want to... but I have no choice! :-/

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gardengnome:

have fun

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JimProfit:

yeah, tnx for the input

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gardengnome:

JimProfit: crying like that isn't going to help anyone

[17:16:24]

JimProfit:

I know! your right!

[17:16:24]

gardengnome:

JimProfit: provide better information about your setup, hardware etc

[17:16:45]

JimProfit:

been at this for 5 days now, not getting anyway, didn't mean to cry, just frustrated.

[17:16:49]

JimProfit:

sorry room!

[17:17:02]

gardengnome:

heh, no worries. we all are human.. sometimes :)

[17:17:09]

gardengnome:

JimProfit: are you located in the US?

[17:17:17]

JimProfit:

I think I have spoken to you before?

[17:17:23]

gardengnome:

probably :)

[17:17:29]

JimProfit:

I am in Argentina whish is PAL-NC

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gardengnome:

ah

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JimProfit:

Ah! ha

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sigger:

JimProfit you're not an angry german kid then?

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gardengnome:

so. how are you using that channel scanner?

[17:18:10]

JimProfit:

No, frustrated scotsman! that worse?

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sigger:

doubt it :)

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JimProfit:

ok.. I set up 1–3 ok! and on 4 I try to scan for channels, and it finds nothing

[17:19:20]

gardengnome:

JimProfit: ok. does your card work in xawtv?

[17:19:42]

JimProfit:

Ok.. good question, excuse the ignorance, how do I try that?

[17:20:02]

JimProfit:

keep in mind I have knoppmythtv

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gardengnome:

JimProfit: you install some TV software like xawtv, tvtime. i suppose knoppmyth already comes with one of them

[17:20:29]

JimProfit:

ok checking..

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JimProfit:

ok tried "xawtv" and "tvtime" at prompt, nothing then tried apt-get install xawtv and tvtime E: Couldn't find package

[17:21:54]

JimProfit:

I have

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JimProfit:

in Apps

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JimProfit:

Viewers

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JimProfit:

Mplyer

[17:22:11]

JimProfit:

VLC Media plyer

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JimProfit:

and

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JimProfit:

xine media player

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JimProfit:

any of that good for a test?

[17:23:11]

JimProfit:

not being very helpful, am I? sorry!

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gardengnome:

heh

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gardengnome:

umm

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JimProfit:

hahahah

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gardengnome:

i can't believe that cecil neglected to include xawtv ;)

[17:24:31]

JimProfit:

well, maybe it is there, I hoped that MC would be inclueded, but no :-(

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gardengnome:

seriously, "apt-get install xawtv" should work. run "apt-get update" first

[17:24:39]

JimProfit:

ok

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JimProfit:

ok updating

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JimProfit:

from debian.geole.org

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JimProfit:

Loading..... please wait.

[17:27:43]

JimProfit:

Hmm... stuck at 99%

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JimProfit:

bzip2

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JimProfit:

:-))

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JimProfit:

downloading

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JimProfit:

xawtv that is

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JimProfit:

gardengnome: OK.. got xawtv running, changed the norm to PAL how do I scan for channels?

[17:32:24]

gardengnome:

JimProfit: just cycle through em.. or use "scantv"

[17:33:46]

JimProfit:

gardengnome: can't see scantv, no channels are definde, maybe channel hopping?

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JimProfit:

gardengnome: this mean it isn't recognising the tunner? maybe?

[17:34:47]

gardengnome:

yes, do some channel hopping ;)

[17:34:50]

gardengnome:

can you see noise?

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JimProfit:

gardengnome: no... not with xawtv, however, from inside myth, opcion "watch tv" I see noise

[17:36:11]

JimProfit:

gardengnome: channel hopping no good

[17:36:23]

rsdvd:

gardengnome : just installed the S100 on my new 50" TV – the scart out looks mega-crap

[17:36:37]

gardengnome:

rsdvd: well, it's a 50" TV.

[17:36:57]

rsdvd:

:-) I know! ...... but it should not look this crap

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JimProfit:

gardengnome: not sure if this helps,but, title bar on xawtv has "???"

[17:37:56]

gardengnome:

rsdvd: play with xorg.conf then ;)) i dunno off-hand.

[17:38:01]

gardengnome:

JimProfit: that's normal

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JimProfit:

gardengnome: oh, ok.

[17:38:18]

gardengnome:

JimProfit: umm. what does "dmesg" say about your card?

[17:38:29]

JimProfit:

gardengnome: check now..

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rsdvd:

gardengnome : I will (or just fall back to VGA as this TV has a VGA in).......just thought I would share my findings with you

[17:39:11]

gardengnome:

rsdvd: what exactly looks crap? colors, blockiness...?

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JimProfit:

gardengnome: should I type it all, or look for something in specific?

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rsdvd:

blurred

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gardengnome:

rsdvd: take care when increasing the resolution. memory usage will increase.. actually, you can tell mythtv to use 800x600 for the menus and $something_else for playback afaik

[17:40:14]

gardengnome:

if your TV isn't good at scaling

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gardengnome:

JimProfit: put it in a pastebin – www.pastebin.ca

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JimProfit:

ok

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JimProfit:

gardengnome: http://www.pastebin.ca/403842 (sorry for the delay! Round about way to get it up ther :-/)

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JimProfit:

http://will chk now

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JimProfit:

no eprom?

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JimProfit:

gardengnome: help me interpret?

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gardengnome:

JimProfit: well, the card is "*** UNKNOWN/GENERIC *** [card=0,autodetected]" and the tuner is "using tuner=-1"

[17:52:06]

JimProfit:

should be using tuner=0?

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gardengnome:

JimProfit: you'll need to find out the correct card number and tuner number... google "linux + <name of your card>"

[17:52:18]

JimProfit:

-1?

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JimProfit:

ok...

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gardengnome:

it should be using tuner=FOO where FOO is the right number for your tuner :)

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JimProfit:

the same must have happened with al lthe other cards? I tried 3 other! :-O

[17:53:07]

gardengnome:

probably

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gardengnome:

bttv card aren't always auto-detected

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JimProfit:

Hmm.. ok.

[17:53:40]

JimProfit:

once I have that info, how can I correct it?

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gardengnome:

uh, i bet that's somewhere in the knoppmyth wiki

[17:54:15]

JimProfit:

I bet your right..

[17:54:20]

gardengnome:

gotta go now, been typing way too much. my arm is falling off ;)

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JimProfit:

gardengnome: thanks for the help, I really do appreciate it!

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JimProfit:

gardengnome: thanks for your time

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gardengnome:

no problem :)

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ShiftyPowers:

does anyone have a good way of using powermanagement on your mythboxes?

[18:06:22]

ShiftyPowers:

i.e. spin down HDDs

[18:06:23]

ShiftyPowers:

?

[18:06:28]

ShiftyPowers:

my thing just sucks juice

[18:06:42]

gardengnome:

hard disks can be spun with hdparm.

[18:06:47]

ShiftyPowers:

hdparm

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ShiftyPowers:

interestng

[18:06:52]

ShiftyPowers:

i'll search for that

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gardengnome:

s/spun/spun down/

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ShiftyPowers:

trying to find ways to save some $$ on my bill since my server is on all the time

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gardengnome:

if it's an nforce2 board, cpufreq_nforce2 might work.

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gardengnome:

those things can result in crashes, though :)

[18:09:53]

Cyberai:

I have a theoretical solution to my HD DTB problem that I would like to run by the gurus here.... Anyone care to hear me out?

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Cyberai:

As I understand it, hooking the STB to the mythbox via firewire enables you to tell it to change channels. the only problem is that the video signal coming down out of the firewire was still encrypted for the 5C channels.

[18:12:26]

Cyberai:

so if I tell it to only use the firewire to command the STB to change channels, and instead take it's video signal from input 5, and input 5 is hooked directly to the DVI video out of teh STB, then you get the post-processed signal.

[18:12:52]

GreyFoxx:

Do you have a working capture card that can read from DVI inputs ?

[18:13:12]

Cyberai:

I haven't solved that problem yet. I'm still in the speculative stage

[18:13:46]

Cyberai:

I'm open for suggestions

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GreyFoxx:

You would have to use an external script for changing the channel via firewire, as I believe the firewire changing is only available when recording from firewire

[18:13:58]

Cyberai:

hmmmm

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Cyberai:

What if I just told it to ignore the video in from teh fireware and take it's video from input 5?

[18:14:37]

harzi:

Cyberai: but for changing channels only you may use irblaster

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GreyFoxx:

And how do you propose to do that ?

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sandeen:

GreyFoxx, was it you who assured me that myth was doing nothing that should cause bad fragmentation...? I just found ThreadedFileWriter::Sync() :)

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Cyberai:

thought about that harzi, but then the mythbox can't change the channels itslef in order to record things on those channels

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GreyFoxx:

sandeen_: I can't see why I would say anything about fragmentation

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sandeen:

GreyFoxx, ok sorry then must have been someone else...

[18:15:59]

GreyFoxx:

Considering you can record more than one show at a time of course you can get fragmentation

[18:16:11]

Cyberai:

GreyFoxx, I was considering working with a friend who is a programmer and altering the source code.

[18:16:18]

sandeen:

syncing every couple seconds does it too. but yeah, multiple files to a single dir cause most fs's to fragment

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GreyFoxx:

Cyberai: It would be a lot simpler to just use an external script ot change channels via firewire than nto try and bed the myth code to do it

[18:16:52]

GreyFoxx:

bend

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Cyberai:

I guess the key is in whether or not you are forced to use the video from firewire when you use firewire to control a STB

[18:17:28]

GreyFoxx:

Not if you use an external script/command to do it

[18:17:34]

Cyberai:

GreyFoxx, under that scenario, would the mythbox be able to change channels itself in order to record?

[18:17:50]

Cyberai:

or is that tied to the irblaster?

[18:18:23]

GreyFoxx:

I don't understand your question

[18:18:44]

GreyFoxx:

If you are NOT recording from the firewire input, then just use an external app to change channels with firewire

[18:18:55]

GreyFoxx:

The same way you do with an irblaster

[18:19:13]

GreyFoxx:

myth calls the external script, which handles the job of changing channels

[18:19:20]

Cyberai:

GreyFoxx, when you say to use an external script.. can you hook this script into myth so it can change the channels?

[18:19:28]

Cyberai:

ah, question answered :)

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Cyberai:

so basically, myth executes an external script.. The script tells the STB via firewire to change to channel to channel X... Then Myth gets the video/audio from input Y.

[18:20:45]

GreyFoxx:

yes

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Cyberai:

is it possible to go into the channel setup and set certain channels to certain inputs?

[18:21:28]

GreyFoxx:

well yes and no

[18:21:43]

GreyFoxx:

You can specifiy different video sources (sets of channels) and assign them to different inputs

[18:22:13]

GreyFoxx:

so record the unencrypted channels over firewire, and the others over dvi/svideo/whatever

[18:22:39]

Cyberai:

ah, so i would create a custom video source to source Y. Then assign that video source to input X

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Cyberai:

can I buy a vowel?

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dustybin:

my lord im controlling mythtv via telnet

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Cyberai:

GreyFoxx, I'd be interestyed in any examples or documentation on how one would create an external script that myth can call to change channels on firewire

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Cyberai:

would you happen to know any, or where I could start looking?

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GreyFoxx:

first place I would check is the contrib directory that comes with the myth source, specifically svn

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GreyFoxx:

second I would check google :)

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gardengnome:

umm

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gardengnome:

AFAIK there is one already

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gardengnome:

in contrib/ :)

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GreyFoxx:

that's what I assumed

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joni_:

:)

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Cyberai:

sweet, thanks

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eulin:

hi all

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jolger:

hey...

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eulin:

hi jolger :-)

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jolger:

XD

[19:01:29]

jolger:

i havent got any sound in mythtv -_-

[19:01:35]

jolger:

got picture working fine and all...

[19:01:38]

jolger:

but no sound -_-

[19:01:46]

jolger:

i've tried everything i can think of o_O

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juski:

hometime!

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eulin:

maybe you can learn to understand the people mounth :P

[19:02:50]

jolger:

LOL

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jolger:

hasnt anyone got any idea as to what i could do?

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eulin:

with the internal player can I see the subtitles in the videos? (.srt)

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jolger:

o_O

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jolger:

GlemSom

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jolger:

is there any danish mythtv channel?

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eulin:

jolger, you can try to search sox and mythtv on google

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jolger:

i tried with sox...

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jolger:

no luck...

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eulin:

I found that

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eulin:

sox it's generic

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eulin:

mythtv sox less

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GlemSom:

jolger, No, not that I know of – there's a Danish xmltv group though... on yahoo somewhere

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jolger:

yeh i know that...

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dr12:

anyone here using Hauppauge 350 and tvout on FC6 ?

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jolger:

lol...

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dr12:

anyone know where to go to get hauppauge 350 tvout help with myth on fc6 ?

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Fifth_:

well this chan some prob, whats the problem?

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GlemSom:

dr12, Maybe you'll find this site usefull: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/XV_on_PVR-350

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tank-man:

dr12, ivtv docs not helpful ?

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JimProfit:

anyone tell me how to re-scan for tv channels, plese.

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JimProfit:

gardengnome: how can I call up the channel editor?

[19:51:41]

gardengnome:

JimProfit: it's in mythtv-setup

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JimProfit:

anyone else know?

[19:51:46]

JimProfit:

ok

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JimProfit:

:-)

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gardengnome:

i don't know how you access it in knoppmyth

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JimProfit:

tnx

[19:52:45]

JimProfit:

from the prompt type "mythtv-setup" ;-)

[19:53:00]

JimProfit:

there is some logic left in me after all!

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gardengnome:

o/

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gardengnome:

:)

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evilcyrus:

hey peeps

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evilcyrus:

can a PIII 1.0g 256mb handle myth

[20:06:48]

antiPosix:

yes

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antiPosix:

especially with a PVR-150

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evilcyrus:

kool

[20:07:56]

evilcyrus:

i have a Ausus tv-Fm card its a Philps chipset 7135

[20:08:05]

evilcyrus:

i kinda read that work

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evilcyrus:

:(

[20:08:17]

evilcyrus:

thats just layn around

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evilcyrus:

so get a PVR-150

[20:08:38]

evilcyrus:

than i be ok

[20:08:41]

evilcyrus:

for now

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GreyFoxx:

yup

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evilcyrus:

what about AVer

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Chai_Sangeen:

hello

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Chai_Sangeen:

so guys a question I tested the dvb-s card on my mythbox with kaffeine and downloaded nilesat and hotbird, transponders from the net how can i import them to mythtv ? im kind of confused....

[20:13:45]

Chai_Sangeen:

is there a special way or format to import the transponders to channels.conf ?

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psofa:

Chai_Sangeen, iirc myth can read channels.conf

[20:21:41]

Chai_Sangeen:

psofa, thanx :) let me check it out and get back 2 u ...

[20:21:44]

psofa:

however when i did it like 1 year ago it messed up the units and i had to fix them manualy in sql

[20:21:59]

psofa:

but most probably its fixed now

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Chai_Sangeen:

psofa, im sorry do u have a link? tryd googleing it

[20:23:06]

psofa:

no link

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psofa:

its in mythtv-setup

[20:23:51]

psofa:

in the same place where you scan for channels

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Chai_Sangeen:

psofa, alright im checking it out....

[20:25:20]

Chai_Sangeen:

psofa, so i can i safely ignore.. "Mythtv has detected that the backend is running" ?

[20:25:26]

Chai_Sangeen:

msg

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psofa:

no

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psofa:

just stop the backedn

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Chai_Sangeen:

psofa, okay ill do that thanx

[20:31:04]

Chai_Sangeen:

psofa, do leave the diseqc setting default or adjust it to my specs? earlier i changes them... any recommendation's?

[20:34:22]

psofa:

if you do have a diseqc switch you have to setup it for myth to tune in eventually.However if you just want to import a channels.conf you dont need to do that yet since myth doesnt try to verify the values in the file.

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psofa:

You should read the docs to familiarize with myth as you seem pretty confused :)

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ShiftyPowers:

anyone know if it's possible to have my HTPC wake up based on a LIRC command?

[20:36:08]

ShiftyPowers:

like wakeup from standby?

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gardengnome:

ShiftyPowers: the VDR guys build hardware devices for that

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Chai_Sangeen:

psofa, yes i do have the switch but ill read docs and figure it out... and also thanx for the help i really appreciate it... if i really get cornerd ill hang around and ask question if that's not a prob :)

[20:39:42]

psofa:

Chai_Sangeen, btw i recommend you use myth's channel scanner instead of channels.conf

[20:41:56]

Chai_Sangeen:

psofa, yeah but that the part i'm confused about ... how will I use nilesat freq or badr sat http://joshyfun.cjb.net/ ? its not on the list ...

[20:42:23]

Chai_Sangeen:

psofa, i guess ill read a little from the docs to be a little more familiar

[20:43:21]

psofa:

Chai_Sangeen, go to flysat or lyngsat

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psofa:

all freqs are there

[20:43:44]

Chai_Sangeen:

psofa, okay ill try that....

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Chai_Sangeen:

at first i wanted to connect the mythbox with my dream box... but gave up on that and felt its better to just go with a dvb-s card.....

[20:45:36]

Chai_Sangeen:

psofa, so this is just my first shot with the dvb ....

[20:45:57]

Chai_Sangeen:

and seems more interesting :)

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ShiftyPowers:

gardengnome, who are the VDR guys?

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colbert:

Can someone help, I just installed the mythtv packages from Synaptic and got this:

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colbert:

eulin: mythtv-database: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1E: mythtv: dependency problems – leaving unconfigured

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ighjwwdfu:

hello peeps. Anyone run myth tv on the ps3?

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thyrax:

anyone?

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onewheelskyward:

There was one person, a couple of days ago. Can't recall whom.

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gardengnome:

ShiftyPowers: http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com/search.pl? . . . remote+power

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thyrax:

how long does it take to boot directly to myth tv

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thyrax:

im reading the wiki and it says there is that option

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JimProfit:

gardengnome: Hahahahahaha! :-)

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gardengnome:

JimProfit: sometimes i can't resist

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gardengnome:

i suppose ShiftyPowers doesn't take it personally :)

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ShiftyPowers:

hmm, is that a real URL?

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gardengnome:

yeah

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ShiftyPowers:

:)

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onewheelskyward:

t0ny-p40: No, sir.

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onewheelskyward:

The PVR-500 is.

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t0ny-p40:

Well, I can get two 150s for $5 less then the 500

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t0ny-p40:

Or I can just buy one 150 for $67

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t0ny-p40:

Did that boardcasting then become law?

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onewheelskyward:

Say what now?

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t0ny-p40:

err. boardcasting flag...

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onewheelskyward:

Oh, I can't remember. It doesn't affect myth at the moment, though.

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JimProfit:

guys, I have the problem where mythtv doesn't find any channels, I downloaded kdetv when using it scan tv stations, it also finds nothing, however, when I search using "frequency" and but "channel" search, I start to find all the channels, anyone know why?? – I think I will have to hand edit all frequencies into mythtv! :-/

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JimProfit:

guess noone knows, at least I now have the frq's to input by hand :-))

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harryman100:

Hi, does anyone have any experience with LIRC? I'm having a lot of trouble with repeated "keystrokes"

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xris:

t0ny-p40: broadcast flag got thrown out (for now)

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xris:

harryman100: it happens for some remotes. usually have to calibrate things to match

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xris:

e.g. irrecord

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xris:

JimProfit: can you just use xmltv?

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harryman100:

irrecord was used for recording the remote in the first case

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xris:

harryman100: might have to run through it again with the problematic keys to get the timing right

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harryman100:

ok, I will give that a try

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JimProfit:

xris: sorry hadn't noticed you'd spoken to me :-) I am in argentina, someone has written a script for that for here... I will look into that next... busy writing down frequency table now!

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xris:

JimProfit: no xmltv in argentina?

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JimProfit:

no... would you be as kind as to take a look at this and tell me what you think? http://www.argenteam.net/soft/tv_grab_ar

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ccooke:

Is there any information on how to activate interactive TV features?

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stuarta:

look in keys.txt

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stuarta:

believe it's f4-f7

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ccooke:

According to the keys.txt, that's how you control it when you're *in* ITV mode

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ccooke:

there's nothing that tells you how to get into that mode

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stuarta:

nope. f2-f5 R,G,Y,B f6 to exit

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ccooke:

Hm

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stuarta:

have you enabled interactive tv ?

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ccooke:

yes.

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stuarta:

and set recording profile for live tv to normal?

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ccooke:

normal?

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stuarta:

not tv only

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ccooke:

what does that mean?

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stuarta:

exactly that.

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stuarta:

check the setting of the livetv profile

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ccooke:

I see nothing there about "tv only"

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stuarta:

under dvb profiles?

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ccooke:

I'm not using DVB.

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stuarta:

no dvb, no interactive tv

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ccooke:

this is recording from a cable box

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stuarta:

using a pvr 150 or equivalent?

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ccooke:

yes

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stuarta:

you won't have any of the interactive data streams required

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ccooke:

Right.

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stuarta:

those capture cards only give you a video + audio stream

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ccooke:

is there any way to get them from a non-dvb source?

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stuarta:

no, not really, best you will get is something like the teletext off an analogue card

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ccooke:

you can use the PVR cards in analogue mode

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stuarta:

then there's the possibility of getting some of the teletext stuff

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stuarta:

which isn't anything like the interactive stuff

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ccooke:

Yeah.

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stuarta:

:(

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ccooke:

Ah well. I'll get the DVB head set up in a month or two. Or six. :-)

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ccooke:

(unfortunately, there is only a single point in my house where DVB works... and it's the entire length of the house from the living room)

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stuarta:

perfect excuse for a slave backend :)

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ccooke:

indeed

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ccooke:

I just need to move the spare computer in there

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ccooke:

never set up a slave; how hard is it?

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stuarta:

reasonably straight forward, the docs are your friend

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stuarta:

i'll be testing it out as soon as the damn thing builds

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stuarta:

having finally got my test box/slave backend

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ccooke:

the problem with the docs is they have interesting omissions. The only thing I've been able to find about ITV was changelog entries saying it's supported

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stuarta:

heh. feel free to submit changes to the docs :)

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ccooke:

heh. When I have a system capable of verifying it works!

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stuarta:

wtf? when did they rename firefox/thunderbird to iceweasel....?!?!?!?

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ccooke:

Debian did, because they didn't have much choice

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stuarta:

i'm just testing the new debian install, that's when i found it.

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ccooke:

Mozilla say anything that isn't compiled completely unmodified from them can't be called firefox (which is understandable for their support)

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ccooke:

Debian make modifications to fit their policies

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ccooke:

both sides are "right", it's just a rather stupid mess in the middle

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stuarta:

i find it hard to believe that fedora doesn't modify it either.

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janneg:

iirc end of last year. mozilla org has trademarks firefox/thunderbird and tries to enforce them

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ccooke:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IceWeasel

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ccooke:

seems I misremembered slightly

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ccooke:

although the gist is the same

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ccooke:

Mozilla insist that firefox is branded as they define it, but the logo can't be used in debian because it isn't DFSG-free...

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ccooke:

so Debian can't use the branding, so they can't call the browser Firefox...

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ccooke:

meh.

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stuarta:

sometimes debian need to pull their head out of their arse

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stuarta:

that's where i can see ubuntu being better.

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janneg:

but the issue is older: http://lwn.net/Articles/200857/

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ccooke:

stuarta: the thing is, this isn't one of them.

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ccooke:

stuarta: the DFSG is at the core of Debian, one of the things that make it work. They need to make some big improvements, but dropping that would be a huge mistake

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stuarta:

yeah that's true, but sometimes they get so mired down in politics that they miss the bigger picture.

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ccooke:

yeah. That's their big failing, really – beurocracy.

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ccooke:

However – The firefox thing appears to be more Mozilla's fault than anyone elses

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