Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Saturday, March 17th, 2007, 00:01 UTC

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baxter_kylie:

Also, quick followup, what user:group are recordings / rips saved as?

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gardengnome:

baxter_kylie: depends on your distro.

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baxter_kylie:

gardengnome: Mixed. Debian BE / Gentoo FE

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ByteChanger:

Can someone please help me with LIRC & a Nexus DVB-s remote?

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AMD:

tryed google

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AMD:

very good when it comes to remotes

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baxter_kylie:

gardengnome: I just want all files to be readable/writeable by a select group of users and readable to a larger group. I can sticky a directory and add users to the mythtv group (or if that's not kosher make a new group up) but if myth ignores that when creating files I'm screwed anyway.

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ByteChanger:

yeah been looking...

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AMD:

one last thing .........i have this now could not open config files /home/thami/.lircrc and /etc/lircrc

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baxter_kylie:

AMD: Do those files exist yet?

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AMD:

should i creat the directorrys and place the files there

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AMD:

yes they are at /home/mythtv

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baxter_kylie:

AMD: Only one is necessary. /etc/ is global for all users. The other just for you. And yes you should

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baxter_kylie:

AMD: Create one

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AMD:

thank you

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baxter_kylie:

AMD: IF you're the only user I'd suggest ~/.lircrc

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AMD:

sudo mkdir ~/.lirc

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AMD:

lircrc

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AMD:

?

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AMD:

ByteChanger: installed lirc yet ?

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ByteChanger:

still searching google...

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ByteChanger:

thanks

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AMD:

ok

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ByteChanger:

and i have it installed, just need to know which module to use.

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AMD:

try them all .............

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AMD:

well not all

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gardengnome:

AMD: it's just a normal file: /home/mythtv/.lircrc

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ByteChanger:

hehe: You have to do some special things to get this RC working: ...

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ByteChanger:

figures

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AMD:

lol

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ByteChanger:

av7110_loadkeys <location>/hauppauge_grey.rc5 > /proc/av7110_ir

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ByteChanger:

oh well, sounds like a posible solution...

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AMD:

i have done it ..i can start mythtv front end with a remote. just like in mce

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AMD:

ByteChanger:try it

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AMD:

ByteChanger:tell me as muthc info as you can aboput you remote and dvb card ..........see if i can help

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AMD:

before i say good bye :)

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onewheelskyward:

Congrats AMD. :)

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AMD:

onewheelskyward:thanks im SLOWLY getting used to ubuntu................so far so good

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ByteChanger:

thats okay AMD, but thanks. i'm gonna watch tv for a bit... i think loading that keymap above will resolve my issue.

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AMD:

ok good luck

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AMD:

im off bye all...

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ByteChanger:

hehe, yeah that never hurts

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ByteChanger:

nite

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AMD:

:0

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ByteChanger:

hehe, i think i am only watching replays... i think i've watched this episode of stargate like 5 times today... hmmmmm

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RaYmAn-Bx:

good ep? =P

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xenoNfluX:

I seem to have run into a problem... MythTV was running well until I swapped video cards, and now I cannot see any text in the menus... I can still exit fine, so its not hung...

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xenoNfluX:

I'm running it on Ubuntu Edgy 6.10 with the latest version in the repositories

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xenoNfluX:

oh, and amd64

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xenoNfluX:

any ideas?

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xenoNfluX:

the only solution I could dig up fast was to delete the contents of themecache, but it didn't help

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xenoNfluX:

hm, found something that said to install microsoft core fonts, but those are already installed

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RaYmAn-Bx:

if using opengl you might need to make sure you have the right opengl libraries and possibly recompile mythtv if you've compiled it yourself

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xenoNfluX:

hm, it was set to OpenGL, but it was working just fine before the video card swap

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xenoNfluX:

unless that might change something in the libraries

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RaYmAn-Bx:

it might.

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RaYmAn-Bx:

it's possible the wrong gl library is still there then

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RaYmAn-Bx:

note that I am entirely just guessing

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xenoNfluX:

gotcha

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xenoNfluX:

know a way I could switch it back to Qt without going through the menus?

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onewheelskyward:

database

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xenoNfluX:

if I need to get into the mysql db, its not a big problem

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xenoNfluX:

gotcha

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onewheelskyward:

settings table

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onewheelskyward:

I had to do this once. :)

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xenoNfluX:

roger that

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onewheelskyward:

select * from settings where value = 'ThemePainter';

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xenoNfluX:

that's ok, already have phpmyadmin set up :P

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onewheelskyward:

then update settings set data = 'qt' where blah blah blah

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onewheelskyward:

ok

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onewheelskyward:

:)

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onewheelskyward:

I don't...it's kind of a PITA. hehe

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** onewheelskyward starts emerging **

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xenoNfluX:

woot, back in business

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xenoNfluX:

any idea on fixing the OpenGL if I ever want to switch it back?

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xenoNfluX:

I know Ubuntu is different from Gentoo, but any help would be appreciated :)

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rm_you:

lol ok so now i'm down to fixing the really cool extras....

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onewheelskyward:

I've never gotten farther than you did today with OpenGL.

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rm_you:

so for a while, it was doing a really cool fade effect when i was moving the selection up and down in the main menus.... then i played with some settings and it isnt doing that anymore.... anyone know what the option for that is?

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xenoNfluX:

ah, ok

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baxter_kylie:

Hi. When mythtv makes a recording or transcodes a dvd — what is the user:group of the output?

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xenoNfluX:

OpenGL and Qt are just for rendering the menus, right? It has nothing to do with rendering TV broadcasts, right?

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onewheelskyward:

baxter_kylie: mythtv:video on my system

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onewheelskyward:

that's for recordings, never transcoded a DVD.

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GreyFoxx:

xenoNfluX: right

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baxter_kylie:

onewheelskyward: And what user are you running your frontend with?

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onewheelskyward:

baxter_kylie: My remote frontend under my username which isn't mythtv. The frontend on the mythtvbox that I don't use runs as mythtv.

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onewheelskyward:

When I was running on the same box, I believe I ran the mythfrontend as 'user x' but 'user x' had video group permissions.

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baxter_kylie:

onewheelskyward: And are these files then created as 664 ?

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GreyFoxx:

baxter_kylie: the files are owned by whatever user is running mythvbackend

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GreyFoxx:

and the recordings are whatever your umask/system default are

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baxter_kylie:

GreyFoxx: You mean the master BE user?

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GreyFoxx:

well, master or slave it doesn';t matter. the files are owned by the user running the process that created them

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GreyFoxx:

if you run mythbackend as root they will be owned by root

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baxter_kylie:

GreyFoxx: Hmm. And the group?

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GreyFoxx:

whatever group the user running the process is a member of

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baxter_kylie:

GreyFoxx: Sorry for being so inquisitive. I'm trying to figure out what I have to set a sticky on or not.

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GreyFoxx:

I run my backends as root, and my frontends as mythtv. Though I could very well run the backends as mythtv. I just don't bother

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baxter_kylie:

GreyFoxx: If your backends are as root then you can't manipulate the files except as root...

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GreyFoxx:

so ?

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GreyFoxx:

I don;t need to

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GreyFoxx:

deletions/transcoding are done via the backend

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GreyFoxx:

so the mythtv user doesn't need to be able to alter them directly

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xenoNfluX:

anyone familiar with the PVR-500... particularly, if the Conexant chipset is one of the good ones (I've noticed there are two different chipsets, and one doesnt agree with MythTV)

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GreyFoxx:

at least not with anything I'm doing

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baxter_kylie:

GreyFoxx: Well some of it. But there are a lot of additions that I'll be making. I use more advanced programs to handle certain types of actions (like ripping a cd).

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GreyFoxx:

baxter_kylie: well, ripped CD's, any other video content , stuff via mythvideo has nothing to do with recordings

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GreyFoxx:

the backend is not involved with that

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baxter_kylie:

GreyFoxx: Thanks.

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seabag:

hello

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onewheelskyward:

hi.

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seabag:

hey

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seabag:

umm, Qt3 question

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onewheelskyward:

shoot

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Smirnov:

Qt3 question?

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seabag:

well, myth + qt3

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onewheelskyward:

That's a relief. :)

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Smirnov:

is that quicktime, trolltech, something else?

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onewheelskyward:

cue tee three...quicktime is up to like, 12, or something.

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seabag:

lol

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seabag:

segfaults

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seabag:

compiling mythtv = segfaults like crazy

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Smirnov:

well there's also the qt thats used in KDE, ;)

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onewheelskyward:

What version of qt3? How was it installed?

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Smirnov:

oh i see now, well then again qt is up to version 4, so its not very clear what you meant hehe

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seabag:

it's the qt3 I installed through Ubuntu's packages

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Smirnov:

yeah thats the trolltech variety

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seabag:

apt-get install everything-qt3

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seabag:

I didn't know that there was anything other than the trolltech variety

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onewheelskyward:

ubuntu has mythtv packages — have you tried those?

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seabag:

I had it running earlier, but it wasn't connecting to the back end

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seabag:

onewheelskyward: yes, they're great, but not if I want to start developing

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onewheelskyward:

Very true.

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onewheelskyward:

So are you compiling the svn source?

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seabag:

so I'm trying to compile it from source, and I don't know if it's a back-end config file problem, or a qt3 problem

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seabag:

yep, svn source

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onewheelskyward:

Any chance QT4 is on your system?

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seabag:

no chance

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seabag:

zip

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seabag:

zilch

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onewheelskyward:

I have that problem with svn right now, qt4 isn't supported.

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onewheelskyward:

Cool.

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onewheelskyward:

Can you pastebin your compiler output?

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onewheelskyward:

or rafb.net or whatnot

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seabag:

yeah, definately read abot the no support for qt4 part

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onewheelskyward:

I can use nopaste on gentoo, not sure if ubuntu has an equivilant.

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seabag:

Well, we did manage to get it compiled, that's not our problem

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onewheelskyward:

oh it's a runtime segfault?

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seabag:

At one point ti was running and working to an extent

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seabag:

but now we're getting a runtime segfault, yes

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onewheelskyward:

frontend or backend?

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seabag:

the problem being I believe there may have been a QT3 upgrade which broke something in the library dependencies, but I can't confirm ti

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seabag:

front end is segfaulting after running for a short while

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seabag:

after prompting that the back-end is not running it will blank and segfault

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onewheelskyward:

and the backend stays up?

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seabag:

we aren't running the backend for this test

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seabag:

however

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seabag:

the backend also segfaults since the upgrade

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onewheelskyward:

oi.

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seabag:

yeah

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onewheelskyward:

What about recompiling agains the new version of QT?

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seabag:

we're trying to avoid it as it's both QT3 but that's probably our problem

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seabag:

I should probably ask a smarter question right now

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seabag:

any reason why the segfaults wouldn't be generating core files?

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onewheelskyward:

No clue. I haven't seen a core file since the last time I crashed something on Solaris.

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seabag:

awesome

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seabag:

I should probably just run it through gdb and trace until it dies

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seabag:

or first re-compile against the probably new QT before doing that

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seabag:

just to knock off probable causes

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onewheelskyward:

Not a bad idea.

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seabag:

Well, thank you very much for your help, despite my horribly worded questions. :)

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onewheelskyward:

Hey, no problem. I'm sorry for my vague, unhelpful answers. :)

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gardengnome:

get a room ;))

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seabag:

Hey, you were a big help. Sometimes it's great to have someone to just bounce ideas off of.

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gardengnome:

jd99: it can take a few minutes till it shows up

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gardengnome:

yikes

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jd99:

gardengnome, its been a few hours

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gardengnome:

a big spider is crawling across my screen

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gardengnome:

jd99: humm.

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gardengnome:

jd99: are you receiving other messages from that list?

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jd99:

indeed

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jd99:

yes

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jd99:

are you a member of that list?

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gardengnome:

no.

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gardengnome:

but the spider is gone and i'm scared

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xenoNfluX:

I can't seem to get my channel list populated correctly... I went into mythtv-setup, went to my video source and did Retrieve Lineups.... then I exited and ran '/etc/cron.daily/mythtv-backend' which gave me this over and over a few times: http://utilitybase.com/paste/3440

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onewheelskyward:

That's good. mythfilldatabase is working.

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onewheelskyward:

It does that once per day's worth of listings.

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xenoNfluX:

yeah, its pulling the listings fine it seems

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xenoNfluX:

just not the channel names

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onewheelskyward:

jd99: I'm a member.

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onewheelskyward:

xenoNfluX: The callsign?

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jd99:

onewheelskyward, if you have a second could you check if you got a message from psunit@gmail.com (about backend crashing), if not, thanks anyway

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xenoNfluX:

onewheelskyward, yeah the callsign and names

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xenoNfluX:

it just says Adding Channel XX

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onewheelskyward:

I am using svn trunk and recently setup a slave backend. Everything

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onewheelskyward:

had been working fine for a few days, but I woke up one morning....

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onewheelskyward:

2 hours ago

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onewheelskyward:

xenoNfluX: So after mythfilldatabase completes..and you look at your program guide in mythfrontend...none of the channels have callsigns?

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xenoNfluX:

right, none of them

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xenoNfluX:

the listing information shows up fine

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tank-man:

after mythtv-setup, run mythfilldatabase

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onewheelskyward:

All I know for sure is that it works for comcast cable in the US — what are you?

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xenoNfluX:

comcast here

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xenoNfluX:

I'll try mythfilldatabase

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xenoNfluX:

btw, what channel frequency table do you use for comcast?

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xenoNfluX:

I saw one listing say us-cable-irc

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onewheelskyward:

lemme see

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xenoNfluX:

listing/website

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onewheelskyward:

I've been using that good old standby, 'default'.

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xenoNfluX:

hm, looks like callsigns may have updated properly

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xenoNfluX:

any easy way to do the channel names?

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xenoNfluX:

or might I have to do them by hand

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onewheelskyward:

That I've never done.

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xenoNfluX:

I wonder if the channel frequency table might have something to do with it

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xenoNfluX:

I'll try default then another db fill

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xenoNfluX:

hm, I don't even have a default option for that

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baxter_kylie:

Could anyone tell me what type of data mythtv stores that is neither db data nor actual media files?

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** baxter_kylie is trying to decide whether or not to just have an offsite db and file storage or to have a full BE/FE setup. **

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Honk:

you need to run be and fe anyway ;)

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baxter_kylie:

Honk: Hardeeharhar. Yes. I know. But I mean on the same machine or two different machines.

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tank-man:

you can have either way

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jd99:

odd I still don't see my message on mythtv-users list

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HaDAk:

I'm trying to configure mythweb, and i've got php5 with apache2 on edgy (2.6.10–17). however, i keep getting the error: Please install the MySQL libraries for PHP. said error can be seen at http://hadak.homelinux.com/mythweb/

[02:48:33]

HaDAk:

2.6.17–10. my bad.

[02:49:57]

HaDAk:

i installed php5-mysql, and even did an apt-get build-dep php5-mysql, and restarted apache

[02:50:01]

HaDAk:

but still no luck.

[02:50:04]

HaDAk:

any suggestions?

[03:04:26]

clever[rev]:

how would i lower the mem usage of mythfrontend?

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tank-man:

why would you want to?

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clever[rev]:

its using so much its leaking into my swap file

[03:05:07]

clever[rev]:

which harms performance

[03:05:18]

onewheelskyward:

You can use a smaller theme.

[03:05:25]

clever[rev]:

im using gant right now

[03:05:33]

tank-man:

then dont use a swap file if you dont want to use it

[03:05:40]

onewheelskyward:

Someone had a comparison of theme memory usage, but I don't remember whom.

[03:05:49]

clever[rev]:

if i disable swap i'll have an oom error and something will be killed

[03:06:12]

baxter_kylie:

Anyone know if there's a way to set an inheritable umask for a specific directory?

[03:09:04]

ByteChanger:

lo all...

[03:09:05]

clever[rev]:

i havent started my X normaly so the normal app's arent even up

[03:09:56]

ByteChanger:

I got my hauppauge remote to work... kinda.. only the #'s 1–9. nothing else... can someone point me in the right direction?

[03:11:22]

ByteChanger:

at least i can change channels without having to get up now... ;-)

[03:12:06]

ByteChanger:

the lircrc is stored in .mythtv & appears to have a wide range of keys programmed. ie: pause, etc..

[03:12:35]

clever[rev]:

i have a working ir blaster on my comport and i use a mini keyboad and several feet of extensions as a 'remote'

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ByteChanger:

hehe, eventually I'd like to get it sent to my laptop... then I don't mind using the keybaord... hehe

[03:13:25]

clever[rev]:

ive been using my laptop as a second frontend

[03:13:38]

clever[rev]:

even with gnome and several other X clients and mythfrontend

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clever[rev]:

it uses a ton of swap

[03:13:48]

clever[rev]:

but it is able to play tv files

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clever[rev]:

im playing with making it better right now

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ByteChanger:

sweet.

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ByteChanger:

ah, had to do that once... hehe

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ByteChanger:

it was a mistake for me... lol

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clever[rev]:

i allready had an Xauth cookie on :0 from before

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clever[rev]:

and i made shure to set the path to the xauth file before starting Xorg

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clever[rev]:

then i was able to load mythwelcome and it came up right away:)

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HaDAk:

holy crap. you guys were talking. my window wasn't scrolling ^^

[03:15:35]

clever[rev]:

lol

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HaDAk:

i just fixed my problem.

[03:15:51]

HaDAk:

well.

[03:15:52]

HaDAk:

one of them.

[03:16:03]

HaDAk:

Got it working. I had to uncomment

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HaDAk:

Code:

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HaDAk:

;extension=mysql.so

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HaDAk:

in /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini.

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clever[rev]:

yeah i think i had to do that once a while ago

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HaDAk:

ugh.

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clever[rev]:

my Xorg doesnt have a window manager right now and i think its stuck between windows

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ByteChanger:

man, that mythweb is gonna take me some time to get working...

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HaDAk:

well, perhaps you can give me a few pointers on setting up my .htaccess file now

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HaDAk:

http://hadak.homelinux.com/mythweb

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HaDAk:

cause it is bitching about that now

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xenoNfluX:

hadak, is this a combination backend/frontend?

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HaDAk:

yep

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clever[rev]:

you need to give it the proper ip/name/pw for mysql

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clever[rev]:

posibly in .htaccess but coudl also be in mythweb.apache.conf

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xenoNfluX:

hadak, you could use "sudo apt-get install mythplugins" and it will configure everything... apache, mysql, php, mythweb

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HaDAk:

...

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HaDAk:

are you shitting me.

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xenoNfluX:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Edgy_Backend_Frontend

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xenoNfluX:

:)

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clever[rev]:

im using the latest mythweb from svn

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clever[rev]:

which is the bleeding edge of newest code:P

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HaDAk:

what line am i looking for in .htaccess to set up the permissions?

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clever[rev]:

have a look at the mythweb.conf.apache file too

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HaDAk:

where's that hiding?

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HaDAk:

with apt?

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clever[rev]:

i used svn

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HaDAk:

ah

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clever[rev]:

got my laptop frontend loading without swap enabled:)

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xenoNfluX:

hadak, go to that link and scroll near the bottom to the "Plugins" section

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xenoNfluX:

I think that might be what you're looking for

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xenoNfluX:

the mysql perm stuff

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HaDAk:

lemme peek

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clever[rev]:

im trying to shut off confirming exit on the frontend now that i dont need it but i forgot where i turned it onLO

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clever[rev]:

ahhh nvm finaly found it:P

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** groOgle discovers that all his recordings are defaulting to the analogue interface. **

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clever[rev]:

ouch

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groOgle:

How do I tell mythtv which tuner to prefer?

[03:26:12]

clever[rev]:

ive seen the option to set that per show in mythweb

[03:26:14]

groOgle:

I have two DVB-T HDTV cards and an analogue tuner for backup only.

[03:26:23]

groOgle:

clever[rev]: I haven't :-(

[03:26:31]

groOgle:

clever[rev]: Though I went looking for it.

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clever[rev]:

its under advanced

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groOgle:

advanced?

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clever[rev]:

in mythweb

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groOgle:

clever[rev]: Ah, right.

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HaDAk:

groOgle: how do the hdtv cards look in compairson to a pvr150?

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groOgle:

clever[rev]: I don't see anything there. Recording Group maybe?

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** clever[rev] looks **

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groOgle:

HaDAk: They're a little smaller.

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** groOgle suspect that isn't the answer HaDAk was looking for. **

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HaDAk:

lol, not quite ;p

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groOgle:

HaDAk: What do you really mean?

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HaDAk:

quality.

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HaDAk:

i have digital cable, but my pvr-150 looks like OTA programming

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groOgle:

HaDAk: Much better.

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clever[rev]:

groOgle: i think its the 'Preferred Input:' option

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HaDAk:

i'll have to do research on that.

[03:29:17]

HaDAk:

meanwhile, i can't get mythweb working.

[03:29:23]

HaDAk:

still no dice after following those steps

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groOgle:

HaDAk: The thing I'm recording now should be 720p, instead of which I'm getting standard analogue resolutions.

[03:30:02]

groOgle:

clever[rev]: What version of MythWeb are you using? I don't have any preferred input.

[03:30:24]

clever[rev]:

groOgle: its under a week old from the latest

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groOgle:

HaDAk: What environment.

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groOgle:

clever[rev]: Ah.

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clever[rev]:

using svn and i svn update nearly weekly

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groOgle:

clever[rev]: OK, when this recording's done I'll try that.

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HaDAk:

groOgle: i'm using edgy

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HaDAk:

completely up to date.

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ByteChanger:

hmmm, is it ~/.mythtv/lircrc or ~/.mythtv/.lircrc neither seem to be working...

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groOgle:

HaDAk: OK, that's next on my agenda.

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HaDAk:

good luck with it -.-

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groOgle:

ByteChanger: I don't think so.

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HaDAk:

my last hurdle was getting php to recognize (and play nicely with) mysql.

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HaDAk:

but i can give a hint there.

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groOgle:

ByteChanger: I take that back.

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ByteChanger:

hehe,

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groOgle:

HaDAk: That's an Apache configuration issue.

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HaDAk:

<HaDAk> Got it working. I had to uncomment

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HaDAk:

<HaDAk> Code:

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HaDAk:

<HaDAk> ;extension=mysql.so

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HaDAk:

<HaDAk> in /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini.

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groOgle:

ByteChanger: I have both.

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HaDAk:

but i still can't get this .htaccess file workin right.

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HaDAk:

stupid .htaccess.

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groOgle:

ls -l ~mythtv/.lircrc

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groOgle:

lrwxrwxrwx 1 mysql Debian-exim 14 Mar 9 14:31 /home/mythtv/.lircrc -> .mythtv/lircrc

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HaDAk:

oh, how i loathe thee.

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groOgle:

HaDAk: Ah, OK.

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ByteChanger:

ah ok... I even tossed it into my ~ folder... arggg....

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** groOgle hands HaDAk a Big Stick to beat .htaccess with. **

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ByteChanger:

ok, thanks groOgle!

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HaDAk:

and after this, i have to get my remote working again, and then i have to figure out how to make myth use my digital output.

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** HaDAk paints the stick red, and pummels .htaccess **

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clever[rev]:

lol

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ByteChanger:

ne1 here using a nexus remote? Which file did you use (hauppauge2.rc5, hauppauge_grey.rc5, etc) to create the /proc/av7110_ir?

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ByteChanger:

I'm only getting 1–9, it must be that stupid file i suspect...

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HaDAk:

perhaps you should write your own file?

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groOgle:

ByteChanger: You know about irw, right?

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HaDAk:

it would be tedioius, but in the end it would be custom tailored.

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ByteChanger:

yes, irw only gets me 1–9 too... :(

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groOgle:

ByteChanger: So you see nothing if you press another button?

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ByteChanger:

HaDAk: you mean the lircrc file?

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ByteChanger:

sometimes it'll say key pressed unrecognized...

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HaDAk:

hrm

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HaDAk:

perhaps you're using the wrong firmware file?

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HaDAk:

ah, what do i know. i use a hauppauge.

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ByteChanger:

HaDAk: My lircrc file looks customized for the remote... ie: pause key is set to "p", etc...

[03:38:13]

ByteChanger:

But yeah, i will customize it more later on... hehe

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groOgle:

ByteChanger: The lircrc is the second step.

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ByteChanger:

maybe i'll try the hauppauge.rc5 ... there was one of those to... it said it was wide open rc5, but still only seemed to get 1–9.... ack

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ByteChanger:

(in hindsite, i remember trying the 3 of them... same results)

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groOgle:

ByteChanger: First you need to do lircd.conf.

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ByteChanger:

hmmm, i don't think i did that...

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ByteChanger:

ack...

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groOgle:

ByteChanger: That's the important thing at the moment.

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ByteChanger:

lemme check it out...

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ByteChanger:

brb

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HaDAk:

hrm

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HaDAk:

i finally got around the database thing

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HaDAk:

now it's saying that mythbackend isn't running. but it is.

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HaDAk:

would that happen if i didn't use mythtv for mysql, and put root in my .htaccess file?

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HaDAk:

Error

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HaDAk:

Unable to connect to the master backend at 127.0.0.1:6543.

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HaDAk:

Is it running?

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clever[rev]:

error from mythweb?

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HaDAk:

http://hadak.homelinux.com/mythweb

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HaDAk:

yep

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clever[rev]:

is mythweb abd the backend on the same computer?

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ByteChanger:

ah ok, i got a bunch of extra haupauge data removed. just my dvb-s remote data left in /etc/lircd.conf

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HaDAk:

yep

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clever[rev]:

is the backend running?

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HaDAk:

yep

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clever[rev]:

check to make shure

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HaDAk:

root@mythtv:/var/www/mythweb# /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend restart

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HaDAk:

Restarting MythTV server: mythbackendNo /usr/bin/mythbackend found running; none killed.

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HaDAk:

.

[03:45:57]

HaDAk:

.

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HaDAk:

root@mythtv:/var/www/mythweb#

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clever[rev]:

'No /usr/bin/mythbackend found running; none killed.'

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HaDAk:

root@mythtv:/var/www/mythweb# /usr/bin/mythbackend

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HaDAk:

2007-03–16 23:46:13.625 Using runtime prefix = /usr

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HaDAk:

2007-03–16 23:46:13.680 New DB connection, total: 1

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HaDAk:

2007-03–16 23:46:13.689 Unable to connect to database!

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HaDAk:

2007-03–16 23:46:13.689 Driver error was [1/1045]:

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HaDAk:

QMYSQL3: Unable to connect

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HaDAk:

Database error was:

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HaDAk:

Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES)

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HaDAk:

QSqlQuery::exec: database not open

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HaDAk:

QSqlQuery::exec: database not open

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HaDAk:

2007-03–16 23:46:13.749 DB Error (KickDatabase):

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HaDAk:

Query was:

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HaDAk:

SELECT NULL;

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HaDAk:

No error type from QSqlError? Strange...

[03:47:00]

HaDAk:

2007-03–16 23:46:13.805 Failed to init MythContext, exiting.

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sigger_:

you may need to not have a space after the -p

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HaDAk:

i'm in as root.

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clever[rev]:

thats if putting the password on the cmdline

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sigger_:

ah

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HaDAk:

how do i update the password, and make sure mythtv is allowed login?

[03:50:17]

clever[rev]:

grant can be used to change the password

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antiPosix:

google mythtv grant flush

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clever[rev]:

it says how on mysql.com

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antiPosix:

throw in wiki

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jd99:

this backend crashing thing is getting aweful frustrating

[03:51:13]

HaDAk:

grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"%" identified by "mythtv";

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antiPosix:

grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"%.mydomain.com" identified by "mythtv";

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antiPosix:

flush privileges;

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HaDAk:

no love.

[03:51:52]

clever[rev]:

you may need to edit the '%.mydomain.com':P

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tank-man:

that is for accessing mysql db over hte network

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clever[rev]:

change that to localhost for local use

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groOgle:

I

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tank-man:

above it looks like he has be/fe on one pc

[03:52:17]

groOgle:

Grr/

[03:52:25]

** groOgle adjusts his keyboard. **

[03:52:40]

groOgle:

I'm wondering if some distros don't set up MySQL for local access only.

[03:52:56]

groOgle:

HaDAk: Are you getting "password rejected" or error 61?

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clever[rev]:

ubuntu had it binding to 127.0.0.1 by default

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clever[rev]:

and default to no root pw

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clever[rev]:

which would let any1 in if the bind wasnt locked down

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HaDAk:

groOgle: from what?

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groOgle:

HaDAk: Ah, right.

[03:53:50]

HaDAk:

ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES)

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HaDAk:

trying to log into mysql gives me that.

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groOgle:

HaDAk: OK.

[03:54:04]

groOgle:

HaDAk: Then it's not the problem I'm thinking of.

[03:54:13]

HaDAk:

i changed the password using phpmyadmin

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HaDAk:

but it obviously hates me.

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groOgle:

HaDAk: Why use phpmyadmin when you have mysql?

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HaDAk:

phpmyadmin = lazy people's mysql

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groOgle:

HaDAk: It's more work.

[03:55:21]

groOgle:

HaDAk: Anyway, grant to mysql@localhost

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HaDAk:

eh?

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clever[rev]:

no grant to mythtv@localhost

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HaDAk:

eh?

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groOgle:

clever[rev]: Doh. Yes, of course.

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clever[rev]:

:P

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clever[rev]:

im still using the scrambled hard to remember pw that ubuntu gave me

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clever[rev]:

but next time i add a frontend i can easily give that frontends ip its own easyer to remember pw

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clever[rev]:

and slowly shift my stuff over

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clever[rev]:

i could even add another username with a simpler pw for localhost so both the new and old name/pw pair work for localhost

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jd99:

I'm having a problem (svn trunk) where a whole bunch of mythtranscode processes are started, causing load average to skyrocket and mythbackend ends up getting killed somewhere along the way

[03:59:16]

tank-man:

jd86, in mythtv-setup , you can set the cpu level usage for jobs

[03:59:56]

HaDAk:

mysql> update user set password=PASSWORD("mythtv") where User='mythtv';

[03:59:56]

HaDAk:

ERROR 1146 (42S02): Table 'mythconverg.user' doesn't exist

[03:59:56]

HaDAk:

mysql>

[03:59:57]

HaDAk:

eh?!

[04:00:18]

clever[rev]:

HaDAk you do that in the mysql database not the mythconverg one

[04:00:19]

jd99:

tank-man, set to low

[04:00:21]

clever[rev]:

use mysql;

[04:00:23]

HaDAk:

oh

[04:00:26]

jd99:

tank-man, I also believe that its for the same file its starting

[04:00:42]

clever[rev]:

HaDAk: also youll need to flush the priv;s once3 doing that

[04:01:01]

ByteChanger:

groOgle: I have that /etc/lircd.conf file edited... any more tip from there? Still same results...

[04:01:08]

clever[rev]:

[16 22:51:38] <antiPosix> flush privileges;

[04:01:13]

xenoNfluX:

anyone familiar with setting up the PVR-500?

[04:01:14]

clever[rev]:

thats how you spell the flush cmd

[04:01:18]

HaDAk:

three cheers!

[04:01:22]

HaDAk:

i win!

[04:01:36]

HaDAk:

...why the hell is mythweather missing from mythweb?

[04:01:47]

xenoNfluX:

lol

[04:01:52]

xenoNfluX:

install mythplugins lol

[04:01:53]

clever[rev]:

ask xris:P

[04:01:57]

groOgle:

ByteChanger: Did you restart lircd?

[04:02:20]

HaDAk:

it's already installed

[04:02:22]

ByteChanger:

groOgle: I had to reboot... lircd restart does not seem to work for me...

[04:02:26]

groOgle:

HaDAk: You need to install it first. I did that with mythfrontend, I think.

[04:02:31]

groOgle:

ByteChanger: Hmm.

[04:02:36]

groOgle:

HaDAk: Hmm.

[04:02:44]

HaDAk:

http://hadak.homelinux.com/mythweb/

[04:02:47]

HaDAk:

take a look for ya self

[04:02:50]

ByteChanger:

lol talk about multitasking...

[04:02:53]

HaDAk:

i should prolly password protect that.

[04:03:16]

clever[rev]:

yeah

[04:03:21]

clever[rev]:

but ive heard of worse

[04:03:23]

groOgle:

HaDAk: Indeed. And firewall.

[04:03:29]

clever[rev]:

finding tons of unprotected mythweb's

[04:03:31]

clever[rev]:

thru googlwe

[04:03:41]

HaDAk:

yeah. well. i'm just estatic to have it working.

[04:03:46]

xenoNfluX:

I can't seem to get PiP working with my dual tuner card.... both cards are set to Tuner 1 (there is no Tuner 0 as some tutorials suggest)

[04:03:54]

HaDAk:

i guess the next question is...how do i password protect it with .htaccess?

[04:03:55]

clever[rev]:

my mythweb is on a virtual host within apache

[04:04:01]

xenoNfluX:

or rather, both tuners... its one card, a PVR-500

[04:04:01]

clever[rev]:

which is bound to a vpn interface

[04:04:26]

** groOgle makes HaDAk's channels all invisible. **

[04:04:35]

jd99:

Actually, it is for the same job, mythbackend is starting a ton of mythtranscodes for the same -j number

[04:04:54]

clever[rev]:

jd86: a while ago i restarted the backend

[04:05:00]

clever[rev]:

and it forgot about the 1 job is started

[04:05:04]

clever[rev]:

and started 1 more copy of it

[04:05:11]

clever[rev]:

that would cause a pair of matching jobs

[04:05:24]

clever[rev]:

restarting the backend alot while its trying to transcode may cause it to get worse

[04:05:49]

jd99:

clever[rev], I didn't restart it during this, and i had about 15 or so of them :)

[04:05:50]

HaDAk:

omg, i'm so happy this is finally working.

[04:05:55]

HaDAk:

you have NO idea how hard i've worked ;p

[04:06:03]

clever[rev]:

odd

[04:06:11]

groOgle:

HaDAk: Oh yes, I have :-(

[04:06:37]

HaDAk:

i just gotta password protect this page, then i need to set it up for my digital output, and get my remote workin

[04:06:39]

HaDAk:

and i'm gold.

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pab:

it is great when you first get it working....I just have to stop dinking around with it

[04:08:39]

** groOgle quickly sets up recordings for his favourite programs before HaDAk discovers you can't delete a recording with MythWeb. **

[04:09:01]

HaDAk:

;p

[04:09:04]

clever[rev]:

i can delete shows in mythweb

[04:09:23]

groOgle:

clever[rev]: They stay around even after deletion, at least with my version.

[04:09:24]

HaDAk:

actually, what i *really* need is the mythvideo plugin for mythweb

[04:09:31]

clever[rev]:

not on mine

[04:09:38]

clever[rev]:

mythweb i think tells the backend to delete the stuff

[04:10:14]

antiPosix:

my mythweather is a day off

[04:10:18]

antiPosix:

oh well

[04:10:31]

groOgle:

antiPosix: Yes, I've seen that too.

[04:10:35]

clever[rev]:

ahhhh

[04:10:41]

groOgle:

antiPosix: Gives me (incorrect) forecasts for yesterday.

[04:10:44]

clever[rev]:

i think you need to edit the record rules to stop the recording first

[04:10:47]

clever[rev]:

then you can delete it

[04:11:02]

groOgle:

clever[rev]: Let me grab the latest version first.

[04:11:08]

groOgle:

clever[rev]: Can you point me to the repo?

[04:11:17]

clever[rev]:

dont have it on hand

[04:11:23]

clever[rev]:

i just used the svn command from the site

[04:11:26]

clever[rev]:

mythtv.org

[04:11:26]

antiPosix:

MythWeather has forcast for Friday

[04:11:30]

antiPosix:

kinda weird

[04:11:48]

groOgle:

antiPosix: Where are you located?

[04:12:07]

antiPosix:

North America, Eastern

[04:12:16]

groOgle:

antiPosix: It *is* Friday there.

[04:12:33]

groOgle:

antiPosix: Or was until 15 minutes ago.

[04:13:19]

groOgle:

antiPosix: I also have a weather forecast for Friday.

[04:13:45]

groOgle:

Partly cloudy, temps 13°-26°.

[04:13:56]

xenoNfluX:

can anyone help me do a quick runthrough of my settings on my dual-tuner card? PiP isn't coming up after hitting B (key is set AFAIK), and Y won't switch tuners

[04:13:57]

groOgle:

antiPosix: But that was yesterday, and it rained.

[04:14:08]

antiPosix:

all day its said "Forcast fo Friday Tomroow expect a high of 19"

[04:14:34]

groOgle:

xenoNfluX: Analogue or digital?

[04:14:38]

HaDAk:

hrm. anyone wanna give this htdigest a shot ?^^

[04:14:46]

xenoNfluX:

groOgle: analog

[04:14:57]

groOgle:

xenoNfluX: Hmm, not much of an idea there.

[04:15:12]

xenoNfluX:

groOgle: ah, ok

[04:18:46]

HaDAk:

um

[04:18:51]

HaDAk:

where is apache2.conf kept?

[04:18:59]

groOgle:

HaDAk: Somewhere.

[04:19:03]

groOgle:

HaDAk: Depends on your system.

[04:19:04]

HaDAk:

awesome.

[04:19:07]

HaDAk:

edgy.

[04:19:13]

groOgle:

HaDAk: Did you say Ubuntu?

[04:19:18]

groOgle:

HaDAk: Ah, OK.

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[04:19:40]

groOgle:

/etc/apache2/apache2.conf

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HaDAk:

tyvm

[04:19:56]

** groOgle smacks this 2. **

[04:20:08]

groOgle:

I don't care if it's apache 1, 2 or 3.14159.

[04:20:31]

groOgle:

HaDAk: Does 'locate apache2' work for you?

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HaDAk:

groOgle: sometimes.

[04:27:17]

HaDAk:

right now: no.

[04:27:33]

groOgle:

HaDAk: I think the locate database gets rebuilt in the small hours of the morning, only once a week.

[04:27:48]

groOgle:

HaDAk: If you leave the machine running overnight, it could work better.

[04:28:05]

HaDAk:

i just started from scratch this morning.

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HaDAk:

anyway. htpasswd doesn't seem to be workign.

[04:28:32]

HaDAk:

it creates the file, but i'm not able to authenticate against it

[04:29:11]

groOgle:

HaDAk: What do you have in .htaccess?

[04:29:32]

HaDAk:

well, i commented that part out.

[04:29:47]

HaDAk:

i read something that said i could put it in apache2.conf

[04:29:54]

HaDAk:

maybe i should take it out and move it back to .htaccess

[04:30:52]

groOgle:

HaDAk: Yes, it seems that the preferred place is now in apache<foo>.conf.

[04:31:04]

groOgle:

HaDAk: Last time I did this, I ignored that recommendation.

[04:31:15]

HaDAk:

hrm

[04:31:18]

groOgle:

HaDAk: It's better for performance, but worse for maintenance.

[04:31:21]

HaDAk:

internal server error.

[04:31:38]

groOgle:

HaDAk: Read the error log.

[04:31:45]

HaDAk:

where is it located?

[04:31:58]

HaDAk:

nvm

[04:33:23]

HaDAk:

root@mythtv:/var/www/mythweb# tail /var/log/apache2/error.log

[04:33:23]

HaDAk:

[Sat Mar 17 00:32:48 2007] [notice] Apache/2.0.55 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.1.6 configured — resuming normal operations

[04:33:29]

HaDAk:

hrm

[04:33:44]

groOgle:

HaDAk: Sometimes these messages make sense.

[04:34:01]

HaDAk:

bah

[04:34:04]

HaDAk:

stupid vi

[04:34:08]

HaDAk:

i had a random 'i'

[04:34:30]

HaDAk:

still no dice tho

[04:34:44]

HaDAk:

[04:34:44]

HaDAk:

Options Indexes FollowSymLinks

[04:34:44]

HaDAk:

AuthType Basic

[04:34:44]

HaDAk:

AuthName "MythTV"

[04:34:44]

HaDAk:

AuthUserFile /var/www//httpd-passwords

[04:34:45]

HaDAk:

require user hans

[04:34:47]

HaDAk:

Order allow,deny

[04:34:49]

HaDAk:

Allow from all

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HaDAk:

</Directory>

[04:34:53]

HaDAk:

hrm

[04:34:55]

HaDAk:

maybe i don't need the directory tags?

[04:35:14]

HaDAk:

guess not.

[04:35:19]

HaDAk:

but it still doesn't authenticate.

[04:37:27]

clever:

you may need to reload or restart apache

[04:38:14]

HaDAk:

still no dice.

[04:40:03]

HaDAk:

Options Indexes FollowSymLinks

[04:40:03]

HaDAk:

AuthType Basic

[04:40:03]

HaDAk:

AuthName "MythWeb"

[04:40:03]

HaDAk:

AuthUserFile /var/www//httpd-passwords

[04:40:03]

HaDAk:

require user hans

[04:40:04]

HaDAk:

Order allow,deny

[04:40:06]

HaDAk:

Allow from all

[04:40:08]

HaDAk:

that's all fine.

[04:43:18]

jd86:

http://pastebin.ca/398398 is this normal???

[04:48:17]

HaDAk:

found my typo :D

[04:48:28]

opello:

wow heh

[04:48:40]

opello:

HaDAk: might find a pastebin like jd86 :)

[04:48:59]

jd86:

2007-03–17 00:48:29.750 JobQueue Error: Unable to clain 'Transcode' job for chanid 1041 @ 20070316183000. << this doesn't look good :)

[04:49:11]

HaDAk:

meh. still doesn't work.

[04:49:50]

opello:

any reason for /var/www//httpd-passwords? (the extra slash)

[04:50:02]

xenoNfluX:

for MythMusic, what directory should I mount a SMB share to so I can access my music within Myth?

[04:50:03]

HaDAk:

that was my typo :)

[04:50:18]

HaDAk:

but it still doesn't authenticate

[04:50:27]

opello:

anything in the error log?

[04:50:37]

HaDAk:

i wouldn't know which log to check.

[04:50:58]

opello:

default should be something like /var/log/apache2/error.log

[04:51:08]

opello:

otherwise, look for an errorlog directive in the config

[04:51:12]

HaDAk:

ah hah.

[04:51:18]

HaDAk:

that's interesting

[04:51:42]

HaDAk:

could not open file.

[04:51:50]

HaDAk:

who should that belong to?

[04:52:05]

opello:

grep ^user $apacheconfig :)

[04:52:28]

HaDAk:

might that take a while?

[04:52:37]

opello:

or User

[04:52:41]

HaDAk:

i figured it out ^^

[04:52:42]

Milosch:

a few milliseconds

[04:52:51]

HaDAk:

i had to chmod a+rx the file

[04:52:58]

HaDAk:

psh. miliseconds.

[04:53:00]

HaDAk:

it was still going.

[04:53:08]

Milosch:

psh a+rx

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HaDAk:

ok. now.

[04:53:29]

HaDAk:

one last thing for the night.

[04:53:36]

HaDAk:

how do i get mythvideo to show up on mythweb?

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kristok:

i'm having issues with the guide info having the wrong info for a particular channel

[04:57:55]

kristok:

zap2it's web page has the proper info, though

[04:58:21]

HaDAk:

did you run mythfilldatabase?

[04:58:29]

kristok:

yes, i just reran it

[04:58:34]

HaDAk:

i know that sometimes they change listings on me.

[04:58:35]

kristok:

with --refresh-all --max-days 3

[04:59:48]

HaDAk:

sometimes my myth data is off from my comcast data. they tend to change it from time to time.

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Milosch:

no, i am quite certain it is always correct, except when it isn't

[05:00:47]

kristok:

it's mainly for a particular channel

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kristok:

goltv

[05:01:04]

kristok:

they seem to update their schedule somewhat late in the week

[05:01:14]

kristok:

and my info for tomorrow is bad

[05:01:24]

groOgle:

"The Master backend will always choose the first available tuner in the same order as you add cards through "mythtv-setup". In other words, the second card you add will only be used when there are two overlapping recordings, the third when there are three, and so on."

[05:01:49]

groOgle:

What this really means is the order in which they're stored in the MySQL table, not the order in which you add them.

[05:02:17]

groOgle:

But the sequence in a MySQL (MyISAM) table is indeterminate, even for primary keys.

[05:02:38]

groOgle:

In my case, I have adapters 6 and 7 (both digital) and 8 (analogue).

[05:02:47]

groOgle:

The numbers reflect the order of insertion.

[05:02:52]

groOgle:

But in fact, record 8 is the first.

[05:03:54]

kristok:

so i just ran mythfilldatabase --refresh-all --max-days 3

[05:04:09]

kristok:

so that should update the listings for both saturday and sunday if i understand it correctly

[05:04:55]

kristok:

but the guide still has wrong information

[05:05:46]

groOgle:

kristok: Are you sure that the error isn't in the listings source?

[05:06:45]

kristok:

well, zap2it's web page has the correct listings

[05:07:20]

groOgle:

kristok: That's sure enough.

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HaDAk:

hrmmmm.

[05:07:56]

kristok:

so i would assume (maybe incorrectly) that the info i get from datadirect would jive with their web page

[05:08:17]

kristok:

and it's not like its off by an hour or something – it's just completely wrong

[05:08:21]

groOgle:

kristok: No error messages from mythfilldatabase?

[05:08:35]

kristok:

nothing other than an icon failing to d/l

[05:09:42]

groOgle:

kristok: What happens if you run it without parameters?

[05:10:31]

kristok:

seems to be running ok, but obviously it takes a bit of time

[05:11:24]

HaDAk:

ok, this is bizarre. my mythweb modules are all in their proper places...but aren't loading up in mythweb. is that a permissions issue?

[05:18:09]

** doc|home pokes chickeneater **

[05:20:06]

xris:

HaDAk: they only show up if you've actually configured them in a frontend

[05:26:16]

HaDAk:

xris: thanks for the info, i was about to tear my hair out.

[05:26:23]

HaDAk:

still, mythstream doesn't show up.

[05:26:37]

HaDAk:

i ONLY have tv and config

[05:28:17]

groOgle:

xris: I've been hacking on MythWeb to make it produce useful output for Australian conditions.

[05:28:36]

groOgle:

xris: It's not finished yet, but woold you prefer to discuss it here or via mail?

[05:29:09]

HaDAk:

groOgle: is xris somebody i'm supposed to know?

[05:29:26]

groOgle:

HaDAk: He's the author of MythWeb.

[05:29:32]

HaDAk:

oh thank god.

[05:29:38]

** HaDAk pounces xris **

[05:29:45]

** groOgle watches xris run. **

[05:31:59]

groOgle:

GRRRRRRR!

[05:32:16]

groOgle:

So I rebuilt my channels table and removed the analogue tuner.

[05:32:37]

groOgle:

Restarted mythbackend and watched the scheduled recordings migrate to the DVB cards.

[05:32:48]

groOgle:

Update the table with the analogue tuner, now at the end of the table.

[05:33:03]

groOgle:

Restarted mythbackend, and it put them all back on the analogue tuner.

[05:33:09]

** groOgle smacks mythbackend. **

[05:33:18]

** HaDAk hands groOgle a pointy stick **

[05:33:37]

groOgle:

HaDAk: Is that what's left of the Big Stick I have you?

[05:33:42]

** groOgle notes that HaDAk has been busy. **

[05:35:08]

HaDAk:

yes.

[05:35:11]

HaDAk:

yes it is.

[05:35:13]

HaDAk:

yes i have.

[05:35:18]

HaDAk:

yes to the above.

[05:38:33]

groOgle:

Ah, finally, if not really satisfactory.

[05:39:10]

groOgle:

I've set all channels as visible=0 for the analogue tuner if they're also receivable by DVB.

[05:39:26]

groOgle:

That means, of course, that I can't do 3 recordings under those circumstances.

[05:39:36]

** groOgle is sure that there's a better solution waiting round the corner. **

[05:40:55]

HaDAk:

heh. at least mythweb works for you ;p

[05:41:46]

groOgle:

HaDAk: What I saw of your setup looks OK. What problems are you still having? .htaccess?

[05:48:03]

clever:

ive made a crude script which loads mythwelcome on its own X server

[05:48:47]

adante:

groOgle: what'd you change, out of curiousity?

[05:49:49]

groOgle:

adante: Mainly stuff to query tv_grab_au listings, which aren't quite kosher, and also a really nasty kludge to avoid duplicate program listings. That'll go again before anybody sees it.

[05:50:29]

HaDAk:

groOgle: the problem isn't .htaccess, it's that the modules aren't loading in mythweb. if they're not set up in mythtv, i could understand...but not even mythstream is loading.

[05:51:09]

adante:

groOgle: eh? query tv_grab_au listings?

[05:51:22]

HaDAk:

nor is it loading mythvideo

[05:51:29]

HaDAk:

and i KNOW i've got video files.

[05:51:40]

HaDAk:

same with mythmusic

[05:58:21]

groOgle:

adante: The canned searches didn't work because they were looking for things that don't exist in the Oz listings.

[05:58:32]

witless:

viewing a recording is very dark. can i brighten the picture?

[05:58:40]

Dagmar:

Turn on more laps

[05:58:45]

Dagmar:

s/laps/lamps/;

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** groOgle hands witless a TV remote control. **

[05:59:26]

witless:

it's on my monitor.

[06:00:05]

adante:

should be some overlay adjustment tools

[06:03:57]

Dagmar:

Okay, so perhaps a decorative flower arrangement

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** xris wonders what "australian conditions" means, since the last time mythweb had a special australian translation, every other word was "beer" **

[06:07:56]

groOgle:

xris: The program guides don't quite conform, it seems.

[06:08:05]

groOgle:

xris: But yes, beer is the basis of life.

[06:08:24]

** groOgle once presented a paper subtitled "Beer: the foundation of civilization". **

[06:08:49]

HaDAk:

ah hah! they DID show up.

[06:08:56]

HaDAk:

xris is smart.

[06:09:21]

xris:

HaDAk: I *did* write it to behave like that.

[06:09:32]

xris:

groOgle: in what way?

[06:10:20]

HaDAk:

well. wish i'd have known that before spending so many hours on google. :)

[06:10:58]

HaDAk:

ok. think i've even got my shows to convert to divx for me.

[06:11:06]

HaDAk:

now, to figure out how to transcode the existing shows.

[06:11:10]

xris:

HaDAk: sorry, can't be in the channel all the time. (prepping for a party tomorrow)

[06:11:18]

xris:

HaDAk: nuvexport?

[06:11:24]

HaDAk:

yup

[06:11:36]

HaDAk:

hey, i'm not mad xris. quite the opposite. :)

[06:12:08]

HaDAk:

question tho.

[06:12:18]

HaDAk:

i've been nuking and reinstalling my distro quite a bit...

[06:12:33]

HaDAk:

how do i add the recordings i already have back into the database, so they show up in the recorded shows?

[06:13:05]

groOgle:

xris: An examplefrom canned_searches.conf.php:

[06:13:06]

groOgle:

t('Movies')

[06:13:07]

groOgle:

- => 'category_type="movie"',

[06:13:07]

groOgle:

+ => 'category like "%movie%" or category like "%theatre%" or category like "%drama%" or category like "%western%" or category like "%comedy%" or category like "%unknown%"',

[06:13:09]

xris:

there's a script in contrib called something like myth_rebuilddatabase.pl — it's the only thing I know of to do it, and it's not the greatest.

[06:13:13]

xris:

easier to just put stuff into mythvideo

[06:13:23]

groOgle:

xris: category_type seems to have nothing useful in it.

[06:13:31]

HaDAk:

i see.

[06:13:33]

HaDAk:

i wonder this then:

[06:13:50]

HaDAk:

if i have these video files auto transcode to divx, will they disappear from the db, or will the changes be reflected?

[06:14:04]

xris:

groOgle: your guide data is being filled in wrong, then. category_type is supposed to be set by mythfilldatabase. it's always english, and only has like 4 values

[06:14:54]

groOgle:

xris: As I said.

[06:15:00]

groOgle:

xris: But I didn't write the guide data.

[06:15:14]

xris:

groOgle: the canned searches are going away soon, anyway

[06:15:22]

groOgle:

xris: To be replaced by what?

[06:15:37]

xris:

saved searches

[06:15:38]

groOgle:

xris: It would be nice to be able to store queries in a database table.

[06:15:42]

groOgle:

xris: Snap!

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Dagmar:

So basically, you want Myth 0.22 to use SAP as the backend database then?

[06:16:50]

** groOgle stares at Dagmar. **

[06:17:10]

onewheelskyward:

haha...I just walked in and saw that. That would be great, except all of our error messages would be in german.

[06:17:12]

xris:

HaDAk: auto transcode just changes the files to nuv. they stay in the db, etc.

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HaDAk:

whew.

[06:18:08]

HaDAk:

i hope it works.

[06:18:19]

HaDAk:

http://digg.com/linux_unix/HOWTO_Auto_transco . . . XVID_or_DIVX

[06:18:21]

HaDAk:

i followed that

[06:20:43]

** groOgle wonders why, since he started using MythTV, he has no time to watch TV any more. **

[06:21:02]

clever:

seems i cant crash my ati card when i want to

[06:21:10]

Dagmar:

Oh sure you can.

[06:21:20]

clever:

it crashes at the slightest change from X to text mode

[06:21:23]

Dagmar:

Just get a wire brush, reach in there and stroke the card gently withit.

[06:21:27]

clever:

yet switching between 2 X servers

[06:21:34]

clever:

with overlay videos playing in both

[06:21:36]

clever:

and nothing

[06:21:49]

clever:

had mplayer running in :0 in overlay mode

[06:22:01]

clever:

and mythfrontend playing in overlay on :1

[06:22:12]

clever:

and swaping back and forth between then without crash

[06:22:33]

clever:

yet lastnight

[06:22:39]

clever:

simply closing X properly

[06:22:45]

clever:

caused the whole vid card to die

[06:22:53]

clever:

and i had to finish the shutdown thru ssh

[06:23:24]

xris:

groOgle: you've learned the special lesson. :)

[06:23:44]

clever:

also ive managed to get mythtv working well on its own private X server

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clever:

and it can even run with swap disabled

[06:25:05]

clever:

just need to stop hitting the wrong F button

[06:25:10]

clever:

keep hitting a text mode tty

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HaDAk:

bedtime. goodnight guys.

[06:28:26]

HaDAk:

thanks for the help.

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some_dude_:

is there a bug in mythtranscode that makes it hog all of my CPU. Even when I tell it "low priority" in mythtv-setup?

[08:13:27]

some_dude_:

it doesn't seem to be working correctly

[08:13:46]

some_dude_:

and i don't know how to fix this problem

[08:14:48]

groOgle:

some_dude_: "Low priority" just relates to *how* the CPU time is shared.

[08:15:03]

groOgle:

some_dude_: Why should you want the CPU to be idle while there's work to be done?

[08:16:34]

some_dude_:

well..from what i read it passes sleep() and also nice value of 17

[08:17:06]

some_dude_:

the problem is while watching hd...it doesn't seem to like giving some cycles to mythfrontend

[08:17:13]

some_dude_:

which lead to my other problem

[08:18:51]

some_dude_:

watch this:

[08:19:42]

some_dude_:

"""20502 mythtv 39 17 208m 139m 12m R 91 13.8 298:47.27 mythtranscode

[08:19:42]

some_dude_:

27329 mythtv 39 17 204m 135m 12m R 86 13.4 66:21.31 mythtranscode

[08:19:42]

some_dude_:

28347 root 15 0 348m 186m 31m S 7 18.4 7:43.74 mythfrontend

[08:19:42]

some_dude_:

27300 mythtv 15 0 301m 33m 12m S 7 3.4 2:20.08 mythbackend """

[08:27:27]

groOgle:

some_dude_: Sorry, on the way out.

[08:27:45]

groOgle:

some_dude_: That's an allocation problem, not a CPU usage problem.

[08:27:48]

some_dude_:

its okay, thanks for the previous suggestion

[08:27:54]

some_dude_:

makes sense..

[08:28:17]

groOgle:

some_dude_: I don't recognize the output you give, beyond the "human" aspect, which I don't understand.

[08:28:22]

** groOgle is not "human". **

[08:28:31]

groOgle:

some_dude_: Check the nice values.

[08:28:50]

groOgle:

some_dude_: Your mythbackend should be -20, your mythcommflag preferably 20.

[08:29:04]

groOgle:

some_dude_: Check the man pages for nice and renice if they're not.

[08:29:24]

some_dude_:

np..ill renice in a script.thanks!

[08:30:03]

some_dude_:

hey, what are mythfrontends flags

[08:30:10]

some_dude_:

i want to log its behavior

[08:30:13]

some_dude_:

(may help)

[08:40:40]

tank-man:

mythfrontend --help

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some_dude_:

thnks

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some_dude_:

thanks

[08:42:26]

tank-man:

are you using the svn version? if so maybe try the 0.20-fixes

[08:44:21]

mboman:

I bought myself a hard-modded xbox to use as a MythTV frontend. It's using the EvoX chipset. However, I can't seem to be able to FTP to the machine. Any suggestions?

[08:45:56]

tank-man:

what does the ip say it is on the tv ?

[08:46:45]

tank-man:

what dashboard you running?

[08:46:54]

tank-man:

is the ftp server enabled??

[08:47:05]

mboman:

dunno, on both accounts

[08:47:31]

mboman:

All I know is that I get the pink EvoX triangle on the top-left corner when I start it up

[08:47:38]

tank-man:

dashboard is the menu that comes up when you first boot up

[08:47:47]

mboman:

FTP doesn't seem to be enabled, FTP software times out

[08:48:11]

mboman:

oh.. That one looks very much like the original XBox dashboard

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tank-man:

is it hte original MS dashboard it is booting up to? or a custom one?

[08:48:45]

mboman:

I'd say it's the original one

[08:48:56]

tank-man:

examples of custom ones are xbmc, avalaunch, evolution-x

[08:49:12]

tank-man:

is there a switch on the xbox somewhere?

[08:49:19]

tank-man:

to switch bios

[08:49:59]

mboman:

The seller told me to boot while holding eject, at which time I get the EvoX logo.. if I don't hold eject while power on then no EvoX logo

[08:50:22]

tank-man:

ok, then boot with the eject

[08:50:28]

mboman:

Ok. done that

[08:50:38]

tank-man:

do you get a different menu now?

[08:50:46]

mboman:

but the dashboard looks the same as w/o eject

[08:50:59]

tank-man:

looks same, or exactly same?

[08:51:15]

mboman:

hold on, let me reboot it a few times to confirm

[08:51:35]

tank-man:

some people made skins to look like the ms dashboard

[08:54:05]

tank-man:

if the menus are the same, i dont think it is modded

[08:54:15]

mboman:

As far as I can tell it's the same dashboard. Didn't see any additional menu items or something like that

[08:54:51]

tank-man:

do you see a settings menu item?

[08:54:56]

mboman:

Yes

[08:55:02]

tank-man:

might be a ftp option there

[08:55:09]

mboman:

Let me check

[08:55:19]

mboman:

(the xbox is in a different room)

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mboman:

nope

[08:57:04]

mboman:

nothing in the settings menu

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tank-man:

do you see any menu items to run programs or movie players or emulators ?

[08:58:27]

mboman:

nope

[08:59:06]

tank-man:

do finding a torrent of "slayers evox install"

[08:59:24]

tank-man:

try to find a torrent of "slayers evox install"

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mboman:

ok, i'll hunt around

[09:00:47]

tank-man:

or any dashboard

[09:01:57]

mboman:

I am trying, but after-sale technical support isn't really there

[09:04:53]

mboman:

used xbox, but don't know so much about the history. Got it off eBay

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tank-man:

do you have a dvd-r of some homebrew or game?

[09:07:24]

tank-man:

see if that boots

[09:09:50]

mboman:

I got some games with the machine.. concidering that it has hand-written labels I'd say it's not original copies. I also downloaded and successfully ran Xebian on it

[09:14:17]

tank-man:

you can put a ftp server app on dvdr and boot that

[09:15:03]

mboman:

tank-man: I can SCP it to the Xebian machine, if I knew what to do with the data once it's there...

[09:16:32]

tank-man:

are you trying to ftp while in xebian?

[09:16:47]

tank-man:

or while at the dashboard?

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mboman:

tank-man: both

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mboman:

tank-man: If I knew where to stick the files while in Xebian I'd be a happy camper

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[10:05:38]

AMD:

hi .i have a sound problem on mythtv. some times it just dont work.

[10:05:57]

Dagmar:

Stop watching the silent film channel.

[10:05:59]

AMD:

i have tryed swithicng to sound cars and all nothing

[10:06:06]

AMD:

cards :)

[10:06:41]

AMD:

Dagmar:stop reflecting/ projecting :O

[10:07:10]

AMD:

even music has no sound

[10:07:18]

Dagmar:

Stop armchair psychoanalyzing.

[10:07:47]

AMD:

:-D im trying to treat you

[10:07:51]

gardengnome:

"even music has no sound" sounds deeply philosophical

[10:08:04]

AMD:

you have bad mind habits

[10:08:45]

Dagmar:

I can in fact think of a Coil remix named "Where even the silence is something to hear"

[10:09:22]

AMD:

;)

[10:09:32]

AMD:

can we sort the sound now PLEASE

[10:09:50]

Dagmar:

Have you bothered to test to see if ALSA is still working when you have a no-sound issue?

[10:10:03]

Dagmar:

It's not really likely that sound in Myth will just mysteriously stop working and then start again

[10:10:26]

AMD:

no......but iihave checked if other players work ......and they do

[10:10:55]

Dagmar:

So then upgrade everything and/or check the bugtracker at svn.mythtv.org

[10:10:55]

AMD:

Dagmar: your right it dose this after a reboot

[10:11:43]

AMD:

its dsp1

[10:11:52]

Dagmar:

If it doesn't sound like an alarm clock being ground up in a wood chipper, then the problem is with ALSA

[10:11:58]

AMD:

or adsp1 tryed them all.........

[10:13:02]

Dagmar:

If you do that, and sound is actually working, it should make a rather hideous sound.

[10:13:18]

AMD:

cat: /boot/vmlinuz: No such file or directory

[10:13:29]

AMD:

no sound fiel ;P

[10:13:34]

AMD:

file*

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kormoc:

AMD, locate wav

[10:13:39]

hads:

heh

[10:14:32]

AMD:

:) /usr/share/sounds/iagno/gameover.wav

[10:14:40]

hads:

locate try

[10:15:02]

AMD:

same thing

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[10:15:57]

AMD:

works

[10:16:19]

hads:

locate more response

[10:18:28]

hads:

locate less dots

[10:18:36]

AMD:

ok sound in mythtv now works ......................

[10:18:48]

AMD:

very funny hads:

[10:18:57]

gardengnome:

not found

[10:19:06]

gardengnome:

did you mean "less colons"?

[10:19:35]

AMD:

turns out i had sound output /dev/adsp1

[10:22:48]

** kormoc blinks **

[10:22:52]

hads:

mmmm seriuseneiss

[10:23:09]

** gardengnome actually has a hard time understanding AMD **

[10:23:18]

** AMD opens google **

[10:23:26]

** hads has been with paddy for 12 hours or so **

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gardengnome:

hads: :) hope the booze was good

[10:23:44]

** kormoc has been fighting with rocks linux for the past three days... **

[10:24:02]

** kormoc is rather grumpy bout it all **

[10:24:13]

gardengnome:

"rocks linux" or "rock linux"?

[10:24:17]

hads:

twas lurvery thanks :)

[10:24:24]

AMD:

google has nothing to say about seriuseneiss..im confused :(

[10:24:52]

AMD:

ohh isee

[10:25:11]

AMD:

can any one help me with my button issue

[10:25:40]

gardengnome:

are you from the UK, btw?

[10:26:33]

AMD:

will that help my button issue ?

[10:26:48]

hads:

heh

[10:27:50]

gardengnome:

well, judging from your spelling, you are from some underdevelopped third world country. your host name tells me it's UK, though, that's why i got confused

[10:27:54]

gardengnome:

;)

[10:28:27]

AMD:

spelling ?

[10:28:34]

kormoc:

gardengnome, rocks linux, it's a special purpose clustering distro that *cough* *cough*... fails to live up to it's name...

[10:28:56]

AMD:

or could be my wireless keyboard

[10:29:08]

gardengnome:

AMD: also known as "orthography" ;)

[10:29:21]

AMD:

its not very good with fast typing you see

[10:29:54]

kormoc:

sure....

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hads:

kormoc: Lucky, I was scared of this: "Modern distribution with powerful auto-build process"

[10:30:45]

kormoc:

yeah, it auto-builds itself quite well... into a *very* costly paperweight...

[10:31:00]

** hads shudders at auto tools **

[10:31:55]

AMD:

guys i am only 18 I'm still learning give me a chance will you :@

[10:33:20]

AMD:

cut me some slack ...........

[10:34:28]

gardengnome:

i'm 19, so what? ;)

[10:34:36]

AMD:

oh thanks

[10:35:02]

AMD:

gardengnome:i see

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hads:

Quite, 18 years is plenty :)

[10:37:08]

AMD:

thanks for that, i will have a good read later

[10:37:43]

AMD:

im off now,.......

[10:37:46]

AMD:

bye

[10:37:54]

AMD:

thanks for the help

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hads:

Possibly the ivtv section needs updating there.

[10:42:03]

hads:

Yes, I know I should do it myself. I'm possibly in a state to do it in a day or two :)

[10:48:29]

kormoc:

I should sleep...

[10:53:31]

Dagmar:

I should kill more newbs

[10:53:48]

Dagmar:

Procrastination is good for civilization.

[10:56:12]

hads:

s/good/possibly good, but more than likely bad/

[10:58:26]

gardengnome:

poor AMD.

[10:58:43]

gardengnome:

hads: IMHO, the channel FAQ should move to the official ymthtv wiki

[10:58:49]

gardengnome:

yeah, i should do it myself.. ;)

[10:59:03]

gardengnome:

Beirdo: hey. wake up. whaddaya think about adding support for factoids to MythLogBot?

[10:59:15]

hads:

:)

[10:59:17]

gardengnome:

Beirdo: think "keyword database".

[11:00:55]

hads:

I like them, as long as they niceish and not abusive.

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gardengnome:

kormoc: it works well in #mythtv, but that's a smaller channel.

[11:01:20]

gardengnome:

kormoc: it could be "!WIKI kormoc" which would clue you via /msg

[11:01:36]

gardengnome:

afk

[11:01:37]

kormoc:

gardengnome, aye, and you don't have the type of people who would use it as their personal bookmark bot

[11:01:42]

** kormoc waves **

[11:01:49]

kormoc:

and with that, to zzz land I go

[11:01:59]

hads:

later

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hads:

I like fact bots, maybe ones that have limited write access, I dunno.

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Dagmar:

Yeah I've had users load up my bots with links to high quality porno files before

[11:05:41]

Dagmar:

It takes a long time to download those so you know they should be deleted

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hads:

:)

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gardengnome:

poor Dagmar

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gardengnome:

hope it didn't ruin your innocence or something

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Dagmar:

Does that count?

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Dagmar:

;)

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gardengnome:

i hope you asked the original poster for compensation ;)

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hads:

hah

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juski:

boo!

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gardengnome:

!trout juski

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** MythLogBot slaps juski with a trout on behalf of gardengnome... **

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gardengnome:

it worked. :(

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jd86:

I hate when I don't even know why the backend is crashing...

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chairman:

does anyone here use xmltv for norwegian channels? I have some trouble. I'm using ubuntu and I get: no 'id' attribute in channel at /usr/share/perl5/XMLTV.pm line 2309.

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gardengnome:

chairman: have you searched the XMLTV mailing list yet?

[13:21:36]

chairman:

gardengnome: yes, the only thing I have found is that there is some channels that doesn't work and it should work if I comment them out but it still doesn't work

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GreyFoxx:

Utorrent is definately nifty

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anykey_:

Anyone here using a PVR-500 with S-Video input?

[15:11:39]

Dagmar:

It works fine.

[15:18:05]

anykey_:

Dagmar: Does it get the audio from the cinch ports?

[15:18:41]

Dagmar:

What are "cinch ports"?

[15:19:29]

anykey_:

The red/white connectors right near the video-in port

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anykey_:

Dagmar: http://www.digitec.ch/Produktdateien/jpg528x398/110632.jpg <- those two connectors on the bottom

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xenoNfluX:

those are composite RCA connectors

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xenoNfluX:

I've got a PVR-500 as well, but not used composite on it yet

[15:25:56]

xenoNfluX:

my guess would be yes, to use those

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RaYmAn-Bx:

the red/white ones definitely are sound

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RaYmAn-Bx:

you need that addon card thingy to use dual s-video

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anykey_:

RaYmAn-Bx: yes they are, but do they get used with s-video?

[15:27:11]

RaYmAn-Bx:

anykey_: I haven't tried, but seing as PVR-500 hardware encodes, it wouldn't make sense if they didn't.

[15:27:22]

anykey_:

hm

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RaYmAn-Bx:

using sound from the soundcard would be completely ridiculous at least

[15:28:13]

anykey_:

why cant they make cable boxes with firewire here :(

[15:28:47]

xenoNfluX:

anykey_, we have cable boxes with the works on them, but its all disabled :)

[15:28:52]

xenoNfluX:

thank you, Comcast!

[15:29:45]

anykey_:

xenoNfluX: hehe, we could have DVB-C here, but our politicians just think that there is no "international standard", so they don't forbid the encryption...

[15:30:28]

RaYmAn-Bx:

I'm quite sure DVB-C allows encryption...

[15:30:35]

RaYmAn-Bx:

but I know what you mean.

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gardengnome:

yes, DVB-C allows encryption *sigh*

[15:31:15]

anykey_:

RaYmAn-Bx: well, they could use encryption, but they would need to get out those CA modules

[15:32:12]

xenoNfluX:

lol

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xenoNfluX:

not here, and I cant figure out why

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xenoNfluX:

though its not a big deal

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anykey_:

but you're able to tune into two channels at the same time?

[15:33:16]

xenoNfluX:

as far as I can tell, I can record something and watch another channel

[15:33:28]

xenoNfluX:

but hitting B doesnt pull up PiP, nor does Y switch tuners

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anykey_:

xenoNfluX: do you use xvmc?

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xenoNfluX:

keys seemed to be mapped right

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xenoNfluX:

I have Preferred MPEG2 Decoder set to Standard

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xenoNfluX:

I've read that PiP and XvMC don't mix well

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anykey_:

don't know then...

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juski:

wouldn't loe any sleep over livetv or PiP

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juski:

*lose

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xenoNfluX:

yeah

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xenoNfluX:

PiP is a low priority

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** juski goes back to editing the sob stories out from 'comic relief' for viewing tomorrow night **

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jd86:

:( I will lose much sleep if I don't at least figure out _why_ my backend is crashing

[15:38:38]

juski:

jd86: without gdb you're not gonna get anywhere

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jd86:

I suppose I should re-compile mythtv with debugging enabled

[15:39:16]

juski:

you might aswell put your finger up your ass & expect to catch find diamonds under your fingernails

[15:39:20]

jd86:

everything I do it just crashes after flagging commercials

[15:44:49]

clever:

getting a minor bug in mythwelcome

[15:45:01]

clever:

its allways reading as AM for the current time

[15:45:16]

clever:

right now it claims 1:44 am but 'date' returns 12:44

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jd86:

juski, heh, in the meantime I've found some other things i put down on my list to investigate later :) well... debug enabled compile is on its way

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juski:

omfg fearne cotton's puppies were on the brink of escaping ll night by the lok of this video

[15:49:47]

clever:

jd86: try a transcode job and seee if it crashes

[15:50:06]

jd86:

clever, it doesn't crash every time it finishes a job it seems

[15:50:19]

jd86:

lets see, I will do just that

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clever:

ahhh:S

[15:52:31]

jd86:

but it does seem to be during/after commercial flagging

[15:52:45]

jd86:

I started a transcode job

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juski:

mythbackend might very well crash after every commflag operation – I do that so rarely I'd never know

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jd86:

youd o not commflag?

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** gardengnome commflags all of his recordings **

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** jd86 too **

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juski:

why would I flag commercial free recordings? ;)

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jd86:

oh i would not

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jd86:

how do you have commercial free recordings?

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juski:

anyway it doesn't work so well in the UK

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clever:

i dont realy have any comm free video channels

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momelod:

greetings channel

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clever:

the music channels will probly confuse the heck out of the commflagger

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jd86:

hah

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clever:

solid black video

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clever:

with the random info window opening with the start of every song

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juski:

clever: to flag a music channel just look for repeating patterns or clips... oops

[15:56:03]

clever:

yeah

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clever:

but theres no actualy comercials in the audio

[15:56:35]

clever:

and the blank frame dection will useless

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juski:

it's useless in the UK anyway :)

[15:57:04]

clever:

im in canada

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juski:

since the ads are hard-cut into shows

[15:57:21]

clever:

hard-cut?

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juski:

yeah

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clever:

?:P

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juski:

no fades

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clever:

lol

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juski:

fades take TIME

[15:58:08]

clever:

id have to watch closely to see if i get fades

[15:58:09]

juski:

TIME IS MONEY!

[15:58:18]

clever:

i forget if i get them here

[15:58:32]

clever:

theres a channel logo in the corner durring the show

[15:58:46]

clever:

we also get random tiny ad's sometimes in the bottom right corner

[15:58:49]

juski:

yeah well our main channels don't have logos on em

[15:59:23]

clever:

also durring the credits at the end of some shows/channels

[15:59:37]

clever:

the video is shortened to the top half of the screen

[15:59:46]

clever:

and a small channel based ad is inserted under it

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juski:

momelod: with a pvr card you connect the audio into the tuner card, not your soundcard you dummy

[16:00:30]

clever:

and on discovery channel theres allways a clip naming the channel right at the 30min mark between shows

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momelod:

juski: oh! LOL

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RaYmAn-Bx:

clever: btaudio is only for bt8x8 cards afaik

[16:02:36]

clever:

yeah and i have a bt848

[16:02:53]

RaYmAn-Bx:

oh, right. messing up who's who and all =P

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clever:

:P

[16:03:09]

clever:

i just added a pci audio card to dedicate to mythtv

[16:03:19]

clever:

so the onboard audio i can still use for non tv stuff

[16:03:44]

clever:

onboard card goes to the 2nd pc's input which then leads to the desk speakers

[16:04:02]

clever:

pci card has its in and out wired to the tv system

[16:04:21]

juski:

fascinating, I'm sure

[16:04:30]

clever:

:P

[16:05:31]

anykey_:

Hm, if I press "R" in the EPG I don't get this icon indicating that the program will be recorded, anyone knows why? It doesn't show up in upcoming recordings too, but it does show up in mythweb?!

[16:05:54]

juski:

anykey_: sometimes takes a little while for it to appear

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anykey_:

juski: more than 15 seconds?

[16:06:08]

clever:

i find when i edit recording stuff in mythweb

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momelod:

juski: thanx got it working.. didnt relize there was an audio input on the card. thanx for pointing it out :)

[16:06:10]

juski:

hahaha no

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juski:

momelod: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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clever:

the upcomming recordings doesnt update when its loading

[16:06:32]

clever:

because it has to wait for the backend to rescedule the new rules

[16:06:32]

juski:

you guys are unreal sometimes

[16:06:37]

clever:

and mythweb loads too fast

[16:06:52]

juski:

actually no -0 you guys are unbelievable all the time

[16:07:15]

clever:

?

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juski:

nevermind. you've had your money's worth out of me today

[16:12:30]

clever:

lol

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gardengnome:

juski's into surrealism.

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** clever is bored and playing with running myth in a private X server **

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clever:

its working fine when im using 2 X's sharing the same card on my laptop

[16:21:42]

clever:

but on my desktop where i want to share the 2 outputs of the same card at once it isnt working

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juski:

hmmm deinterlacing doesn't seem to be done in pause/frame advance mode

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cheeseboy:

hi

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cheeseboy:

mythtv is eating all my memory and still lagging

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juski:

aww bless

[16:30:52]

juski:

get some more memory then

[16:30:58]

cheeseboy:

anything i can do besides buy more memory?

[16:31:14]

juski:

use a more efficient (more ugly) theme

[16:31:39]

cheeseboy:

when im watchin the tv it lags

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cheeseboy:

when im not its fine

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juski:

'lags'? wtf do you mean by 'lags' ?

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tank-man:

how much memory do you have? and is it hd or sd?

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cheeseboy:

like the video goes really slow then skips some frames

[16:33:13]

cheeseboy:

768mb

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juski:

slow cpu & software encoding ahoy!

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cheeseboy:

um.. hd or sd?

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juski:

high def or standard def?

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cheeseboy:

2.0ghz cpu..

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juski:

standard def. software encoding

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juski:

bleuch

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cheeseboy:

standtard def

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tank-man:

shouldnt be lag

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juski:

it's not lag

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juski:

lag is 'delay'.

[16:34:12]

clever:

the blue theme seems to use less ram then gant

[16:34:19]

juski:

this is just his box sucking badly

[16:34:37]

juski:

is dma enabled on the HDD?

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cheeseboy:

i don't know

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juski:

go find out

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clever:

how would you check im getting slow speeds on my hdd also

[16:35:09]

clever:

its just bearly enough here for some things

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juski:

man hdparm

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clever:

using_dma is on here

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juski:

maybe try a speed test then

[16:37:25]

clever:

done those before and they didnt perform very well relative to other pc's

[16:37:27]

juski:

also maybe try running mythfrontend on an *accelerated* X server

[16:37:33]

clever:

could just be a crappy drive

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clever:

define 'accelerated' X server

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juski:

duh

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tank-man:

if you got nvidia card, try using binary drivers+xmvc

[16:38:12]

clever:

video overlay works on all my X's

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juski:

overlay sure

[16:38:22]

juski:

but Xv ?

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clever:

the xv output in mplayer works last i checked

[16:38:51]

juski:

mythtv != mplayer

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clever:

but the fact xv works in mplayer means the X server has the needed stuff

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clever:

assuming its the same xv

[16:40:31]

clever:

brb

[16:41:14]

clever:

back

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clever:

my be+fe box can bearly handle recording to rtjpeg and playing at the same time

[16:42:01]

clever:

most of the time it seems to be a bandwidth shortage on the hdd

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juski:

turn down the recording resolution then

[16:42:24]

juski:

as much as you can bear til you can afford a PROPER tuner card

[16:42:42]

clever:

framegrabber

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clever:

and no job

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juski:

so you're stuck with it being sucky

[16:42:59]

clever:

doesnt matter how long i wait i wont save up any:P

[16:43:05]

juski:

oh ffs

[16:43:07]

juski:

get a job

[16:43:25]

juski:

even if it means you have to be a fluffer, nobody will judge you

[16:43:35]

clever:

it doesnt seem to be short on hdd bandwidth most of the time

[16:43:45]

clever:

im able to play thru the network from a diff fe

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clever:

while the be is recording

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clever:

so the hdd has the load of playback without a problem

[16:45:10]

clever:

frontend loading...

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clever:

lol

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momelod:

where can i download the lirc config for my STB (Ariza Extreme)?

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ByteChanger:

lo all

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jd86:

http://pastebin.ca/398941 I've been trying to get my mythbackend to stay running, and this is one thing gdb has pumped out. I don't know if its fatal mythbackend appears to continue running... anyone smart know what this means?

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GlemSom:

Is there any way to start a PC with a remotecontrol? (like a remote that comes with the PVR-350 card) ?

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jd86:

http://pastebin.ca/399050 /me looks confused... anyone know what could have happened?

[18:27:21]

Dagmar:

bit weevils.

[18:27:36]

Dagmar:

They like to eat symbols

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Dagmar:

They make little burrows in them

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Dagmar:

Why are you trying to run strace on a binary without useful debugging symbols?

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gardengnome:

i didn't know you needed debugging symbols for strace

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gardengnome:

" strace – trace system calls and signals

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jd86:

Dagmar, who are you talking to?

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Dagmar:

You

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jd86:

its gdb, and i compiles with debugging ... I thought

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Dagmar:

that's strace output, right?

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Dagmar:

Your Qt libs don't have any debugging symbols apparently.

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jd86:

ah

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jd86:

thats not good

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jd86:

those i didn't put debugging stuff into

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Dagmar:

S'easy enough to rebuild. Just takes time

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gardengnome:

debian and friends might have a package with debugging symbols. *shrug*

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Dagmar:

You have to use the magic "g" talisman to keep the bit weevils away

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Dagmar:

Otherwise they eat your symbols.

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jd86:

I bet all I need is a handy dandy debug use flag for qt :) but will take time indeed

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Dagmar:

Just go grab the source whatever your distro uses, and make sure it *doesn't* strip the binaries on install, and uses the -g flag

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Dagmar:

It takes like, 11 minutes to rebuild here, but, um... I have a X2 3800

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Dagmar:

...and I usually cheat and precache the build files

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jd86:

i have a 2500

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jd86:

+

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Dagmar:

The dbs touches every file in the sourcedir before compiling just to try to force it

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Dagmar:

I'm half waiting for someone to call me out on it. heh

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jd86:

i had some extra junk sitting in /usr/local/lib and stuff, maybe that was out of the blue starting for no reason causing this... worth a shot

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Dagmar:

1Gb tmpfs in ramdisk isn't exactly playing fair

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Dagmar:

COuld be

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Dagmar:

The first time I did it, I swear the xterm made a sound it scrolled so fast

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jd86:

lol

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jd86:

qt is compiling

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Dagmar:

I'm thinking about going to 4Gb on my devel box just to see what happens if I move /usr into a ramdisk

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jd86:

might be slightly obsessive...

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Dagmar:

But funny as hell.

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Dagmar:

It would get rid of io-boundness on a compile

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jd86:

ugh, so that incomplete stuff where the backend dies is no good without the qt debug enabled?

[18:42:45]

Dagmar:

Probably so

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Dagmar:

I generally just point strace at a very large partition

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jd86:

you think I should strace it?

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Dagmar:

Not if you're not used to strace

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jd86:

i'm not used to anything...

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Dagmar:

I generally use it because you can tell it to show you the content of pretty much every variable everything touches, but the logs are HUGE

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Dagmar:

...and you really wanna open them in a *wide* terminal.

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Dagmar:

It can be horrifyingly verbose

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jd86:

good thing i have a widescreen lcd.

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jd86:

not that I'll be able to figure out what the problem is anyway.

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jd86:

this is all so frustrating, it came out of nowhere!

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Dagmar:

Remember the program uses threads

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Dagmar:

You can make strace follow threads

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jd86:

I run svn trunk, so I expect it to break but not randomly after days of working and not changing anything.

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Dagmar:

I'd go back to 0.20-fixes

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Dagmar:

Well, if 0.20-fixes WORKS you don't have to consider the entire codespace of MythTV to be a possible source of the problem

[18:46:59]

Dagmar:

You can just make a list of the stuff in the diffs, and filter the strace output for it

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jd86:

:-, i'm still not totally convinced its myth's fault actually, although its persistantly crashing now... its odd timing, it wasn't after an update or anything (but have since updated,etc)

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jd86:

11 mins to install qt

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jd86:

including download

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Dagmar:

Well, paranoid check number one would be to run memtest86 on it when you go to sleep tonight

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jd86:

ok 11 mins and 55 seconds :)

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jd86:

that would be a good idea eh?

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Dagmar:

Yes.

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jd86:

You're smart

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Dagmar:

It's an "easy" test in that you don't have to do anything but boot a CD

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jd86:

indeed

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Dagmar:

Easy tests go first

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Dagmar:

This gives you time to hope your subconcious coughs up more theories

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jd86:

seems to do everything else so well, but I suppose thats how memory issues are. I will indeed try it out

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jd86:

oh boy.. its been a few days now, and I've exhausted the usual things

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Dagmar:

Backing out to 0.20-fixes would be the next logical step, still painting in somewhat broad circles

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jd86:

Eh, I'd like not to do that, I've been using svn trunk for a while, and I didn't even know you _could_ do that, but I could do it and test with it... but I figure the changes to the database schemas made going back permanently not going to happen

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Der_Thomas:

hello, anyone around know anything about mythfm or mythradio?

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jd86:

In backend settings I set to only run 1 job at a time, but multiple commercial flagging jobs have started — anyone having this problem?

[19:05:41]

Der_Thomas:

sorry, I haven't seen that problem

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Der_Thomas:

I'm having a problem with low res channel icons being downloaded and displayed in my OSD. Anyone know how to get better icons ?

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jd86:

I never did channel icons sorry

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juski:

look on lyngsat's website

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Der_Thomas:

I'm not familar, sdo you have the address?

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juski:

lyngsat.com ?

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jd86:

anyone having trouble getting icons in mythweb to appear (svn trunk) some do, most don't?

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Der_Thomas:

Wait, are you saying both cards are trying to be on /dev/vieo2

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Der_Thomas:

Wait, are you saying both cards are trying to be on /dev/video2

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regicide666:

no sorry

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Der_Thomas:

ahh

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Der_Thomas:

i see

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regicide666:

the link shows a a video from each card same channel same time

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regicide666:

some lower cahnnels look ok on the bad card so I think it may be the tuner not being detected properly

[19:15:04]

regicide666:

well I take that back

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regicide666:

now they all look like that

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Der_Thomas:

hmm, I guess that I'm not sure. I had a similar problem, I have one pvr-150 (with radio) but it only occured with Freevo.

[19:15:47]

Der_Thomas:

No one could figure it out and it worked in Myth fine so I never went back

[19:16:07]

Der_Thomas:

ivtv had an irc channel too, they are usually pretty good over there

[19:16:30]

regicide666:

yea it is not a myth problem because I get it from cat /dev/video1 > testv1.mpg and in myth

[19:16:51]

Vantage13:

I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on using this hardware for a mythtv frontend? http://system76.com/product_info.php/cPath/2/ . . . 75e9b33cff25

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regicide666:

I am in ivtv-dev and no one is talking

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Der_Thomas:

When I had my problem with Freevo, it woud be OK until I ran freevo, but it would stay messed up even after I quit freevo until I would re-load ivtv.

[19:17:43]

Der_Thomas:

rmmod ivtv && modprobe ivtv

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Der_Thomas:

then if I used mplayer, xine, or cat it would be fine again until I ran freevo

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Der_Thomas:

Vantage13 – does it come with a TV out?

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Vantage13:

Der_Thomas: s-video

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regicide666:

Der_Thomas: that may be it

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regicide666:

I had done that when I was thinking lower channels are ok

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Der_Thomas:

Vantage13 – What about TV in? I'm just asking becasue it doesn't look like there is room for a PCI card.

[19:24:17]

Vantage13:

Der_Thomas: no TV in. I've already got a primary myth system running a backend and a frontend. I'm just looking to set up an additional frontend machine

[19:24:22]

Der_Thomas:

Vantage13 – I also would go for the 80G 7200 rpm drive. not so much for the room as for the speed – those 5400rpm drives can be a real lag

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Der_Thomas:

ahh

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Der_Thomas:

ok

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Der_Thomas:

Well it does look pretty cool

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Vantage13:

Der_Thomas: I'm just not sure what the minimum requirements are for just a frontend

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Der_Thomas:

yeah I don't know, seems kinds expensive though huh? $600 – you could prob build this for 1/2 the price

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Vantage13:

Der_Thomas: you think so? I haven't seen a case/mobo that small together for purchase. It would be nice if I could find hardware like that separately

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hads:

It's not bad looking. You could build something the same from a Mini-ITX board

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Der_Thomas:

well you could buy a epia-m10000 for about $100 – not sure what a case would cose though

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Vantage13:

hads: mini-itx is larger than that, isn't it? That one is the same size as a mac mini

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hads:

Dunno, what's 170mm in inches?

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Vantage13:

6.69291339 inches :)

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Der_Thomas:

google "170mm in in"

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Vantage13:

ah google...

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hads:

Yeah, that is slightly smaller then.

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hads:

I'd still go for the cheaper Mini-ITX option, if size isn't a major issue.

[19:33:13]

hads:

At least then you are following some sort of standard so you can replace/upgrade bits later.

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Der_Thomas:

wow there does not seem to be many mini-itx cases on e-bay

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Der_Thomas:

anyone have a good place for these?

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Vantage13:

yeah, I'm trying to find anything small on newegg and not having much luck...

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hads:

Check out the 3688, probably branded as a Morex

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Der_Thomas:

hads – yeah that looks cool. not as cool as that $600 number, but a whole lot cheaper

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Vantage13:

that's just for the case though, you still have to add in hdd, cpu, ram, etc

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Der_Thomas:

true

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hads:

Indeed. Also if you are after the DVI output then you may be better to go with the $600 jobbie.

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hads:

I've found the Openchrome support for DVI outputs lacking.

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ByteChanger:

lo again...

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gentgeen__:

can someone help me out?

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Vantage13:

do the mac minis work with mythtv?

[19:54:35]

ByteChanger:

gentgeen: I suspect, if you only have one card then you can only view one stream at a time. If there are multiple channels on the same transponder, you can probably record one channel and watch another on the same transponder...

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ByteChanger:

i'm not too familiar with mythtv yet, so that is just a guess...

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anykey_:

ByteChanger: you can't watch channels on the same transponder with mythtv yet

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ByteChanger:

oh... i stand corrected... hehe, thanks!

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ByteChanger:

don't suppose anyone here is using a remote from a Hauppauge Nexus DVB-s card? I'm having a hellofa time getting this thing to work properly...

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gentgeen__:

ByteChanger, anykey_ --- Sorry, not sure what you mean by transponder... I may be I did not explain right (or I am not understanding right)

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ByteChanger:

basically, you hafta watch what you record if you have one dvb card...

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gentgeen__:

I want to watch live tv only (not record at same time).... but I just get a black screen, then eventually get kicked back to the menu

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ByteChanger:

ah, i misunderstood..

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gentgeen__:

BUT if I do a record, then go to watch that record (as it is recording) things work fine

[20:00:32]

ByteChanger:

ahh... hmmm

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gentgeen__:

When I go to system status — Tuner Status — I see "Tuner 3 recording"

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gentgeen__:

that is what is confusing me... I only got one tuner :-)

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ByteChanger:

hmm, sorry.. I'm not that familiar with the system yet... But I understand your problem now...

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gentgeen__:

np... thx

[20:02:37]

gentgeen__:

we are in the same boat on that

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ByteChanger:

you have your video sources setup correctly?

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ByteChanger:

hehe..

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anykey_:

gentgeen__: well, if you have only one tuner defined under capture cards, then it's ok

[20:02:57]

anykey_:

gentgeen__: I have two tuners here, they are named "Tuner 3/4"

[20:03:21]

anykey_:

gentgeen__: this is just the internal ID mythtv uses for the tuners, if you ever deleted a capture card, then you probably have Tuner 2/3/4...

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gentgeen__:

I have set up this same card 3 times now :-)

[20:03:54]

gentgeen__:

been working on it all day (going on 6 hours now)

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anykey_:

there you are ;-)

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gentgeen__:

any idea then why I can

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gentgeen__:

t

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gentgeen__:

just watch live tv?

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anykey_:

did you start the backend with -v all?

[20:04:33]

gentgeen__:

right, now — running with -v error

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ByteChanger:

what does that do anykey? I just use mythbackend

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anykey_:

gentgeen__: increase the log level

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ByteChanger:

ah cool.

[20:05:03]

ByteChanger:

Ah, verbose... hehe

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anykey_:

gentgeen__: so, -v error does not show any errors?

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ByteChanger:

do you get any msg if you go back into 'watch tv', like can't connect to backend? I get that fequently...

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gentgeen__:

Wouldn't you know it... I just restarted backend with "all" on vt1 — then want to watch tv... and it worked

[20:08:45]

gentgeen__:

did nothing different then what I have done for the other 10 times

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gentgeen__:

apparently my mythbox is afraid of anykey_

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gentgeen__:

If I can bug you all for one more thing...

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gentgeen__:

gonna do some ebaying for a remote... any suggestions for one that "just works" ?

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hads:

I like my MCE remotes

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ByteChanger:

lo again...

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serfrs:

anyone tell me why I'm having trouble connecting to the svn server?

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serfrs:

keep getting PROPFIND request errors

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hads:

Works from here

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serfrs:

I can get in on my window box just fine

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ByteChanger:

i wuz getting those the other day...

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ByteChanger:

(hi serfrs)

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ByteChanger:

it went away...

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ByteChanger:

i think i did something stupid like pinged thier ip addy or something..

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perlmonkey:

hi

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ByteChanger:

everyone here would report svn working but i wuz getting thoze propfind errors also...

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perlmonkey:

WinTV-PVR-150MCE good for linux?

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perlmonkey:

hello

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ByteChanger:

Anyone gotten a Hauppauge Nexus Remote to work w/ MythTV? Please help, I'm having problems...

[20:56:27]

** perlmonkey too tired to calculate it **

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ByteChanger:

I've been reading the forums, seems like a lot of ppl have problems with these...

[20:57:40]

ByteChanger:

(Maybe a twinhan 1020a remote will work better?) I have one of those kicking about...

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Criggie:

is it possible to put myth's recordings into two different places? I have two spare drives (a 200 and a 120) and currently I'm using an array of 3x40Gb. I'd like to copy the existing recordings to the 120 and also store more recordings on the 200 Gb as well. Or should I use another array of both drives?

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GreyFoxx:

You can if you are running SVN using storage groups

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Criggie:

GreyFoxx: thanks for that – I'm still on 0.19-fixes :)

[21:03:09]

Criggie:

sopunds like a good reason to upgrade

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hads:

lo Criggie

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Criggie:

hads-dude :)

[21:04:41]

hads:

The new storage groups thing is nifty. It does away with the need to use LVM really.

[21:05:14]

Criggie:

okay – I'll upgrade to 0.20 then to the svn version

[21:05:29]

Criggie:

I don't want to break it for weeks :)

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hads:

Yeah, upgrading is a little unnerving :)

[21:06:57]

hads:

SVN is working well for me.

[21:07:06]

Dibblah:

Not if you try these new things called... Backups.

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Dibblah:

mysql -p mythconverg >mythbackup.sql

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Dibblah:

It IS that simple :)

[21:07:40]

hads:

Yes, I know this.

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GreyFoxx:

you mean mysqldump I assume :)

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Dibblah:

ahem. Yes.

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Dibblah:

It's late and I've been shovelling concrete for what feels like days :)

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hads:

I was more referring to the fact that running SVN may not work for one reason or other, being a non-released version and all.

[21:09:12]

hads:

Which can be unnerving :)

[21:09:18]

Dibblah:

Huh? It should work ALL the time!

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Dibblah:

Have you not been following Trac? ;)

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hads:

:)

[21:10:09]

Dibblah:

#3031, I mean specifically.

[21:10:23]

Dibblah:

"Wah, wah, wah, I lost recordings"

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Dibblah:

Err... Well, run a released version, then?

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hads:

Angry Dibblah

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tjcarter:

how do I delete all existing guide data and redownload?

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Criggie:

Dibblah: backups are easy yes – restoring is where the problems arise

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Criggie:

:)

[21:13:50]

Dibblah:

Criggie: mysql -p mythconverg <mythbackup.sql

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Dibblah:

? ;)

[21:14:24]

Criggie:

Dibblah: -grin-

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Dibblah:

Yup. Good to see Daniel taking his time over a move, though.

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tjcarter:

Ah, I think mythfilldatabase --refresh-all will do what I want.

[21:15:08]

Dibblah:

Or even taking a break.

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tjcarter:

or will it?

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** tjcarter has totally new cable lineup now **

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hads:

Silly daylight savings messing with my listings.

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tjcarter:

hads: I still have old data for wrong channels =p

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tjcarter:

and ... COMCAST SUCKS DONKEY ASS.

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tjcarter:

Mid-mythfilldatabase, suddenly I have no functioning resolver.

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jd99:

I believe I have narrowed down my backend crashing to the when the commercial flagging finishes

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Criggie:

hads: the only way I knew about daylight savings was that my wife's XP machine said so.

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tjcarter:

I'm not sure this is going to fix it or not.

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hads:

Criggie: All my boxes adjusted but my listings are out at the moment.

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milan:

hey i have a problem live tv is too wide

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milan:

and pressing 'W' is not working

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Criggie:

odd – first check if its a mythtv problem or a tuner card problem by testing outside of mythtv

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milan:

Criggie, i did it's a mythtv problem i think

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milan:

first, it was working :'(

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clever:

how do i get mythbackend to run in a realtime priority?

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hads:

Aha, there's a bug in epgsnoop. Oops, that means lots of people are going to be affected.

[21:56:06]

clever:

what kind of bug?

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milan:

can someone help me the aspect ratio of live tv is totally wrong

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hads:

clever: I misunderstood the python time.daylight attribute so the script thinks that's it's daylight time always.

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clever:

ahhh:S

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clever:

i have a diff bug in my guide data

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clever:

if i put a wraper arround the front/backend to set the proper timezone

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clever:

they are showing the right local time

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clever:

and all guide data is off by 2 hours

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clever:

only part outside of the right zone is mysql

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GreyFoxx:

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clever:

GreyFoxx: ?

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jd99:

What could cause mythcommflag to complain about a missing codec?

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tjcarter:

okay, with the new lineup, channel recordings are waaaay different.

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tjcarter:

channels have moved, etc

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tjcarter:

is there a way to fix this or do I need to go and remove all of my old recording rules?

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hads:

Criggie: You use the hairy epg data?

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Criggie:

hads: yup

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hads:

Your data is probably out then I imagine

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tjcarter:

Yeah, it still wants to record Jericho on the TV Guide Channel.

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tjcarter:

It's not going to record shit in that case =)

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xenoNfluX:

if I have X set to 800x600 and its not filling up the entire TV screen, is it more likely its the video card or the configuration?

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Criggie:

hads: is hairy's data wrong? cos mine seems fine

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tjcarter:

I wish I could just see a list of recording rules and modify them

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Criggie:

hads: no you're right – its one hour out

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Criggie:

hads: what did you do to fix it ?

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tjcarter:

Am I really supposed to just drop my mythconverg database and start over again if I move?

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tjcarter:

I mean seriously.

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tjcarter:

That looks to be what I am supposed to do.

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tjcarter:

The helpful howto (all of four sentances) basically claims that running mythfilldatabase with the right options will fix it. Doesn't.

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tjcarter:

Some channel IDs have changed.

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hads:

Criggie: I'm working on a fix now. I'll let you know when it's done.

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hads:

Sorry :)

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Criggie:

:)

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Criggie:

hads: I bet hairy needs to update the data source file

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tjcarter:

Well there was hoping mythweb would let me do it.

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tjcarter:

At least it will SHOW me all of the recording schedules. It won't let me change the channel they record though

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tjcarter:

And I will very soon have to go through this again.

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hads:

Criggie: It's the bug in epgsnoop (which hairy now uses) causing it.

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tjcarter:

Nobody who develops myth has ever moved then?

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tjcarter:

Because anyone who moves will have to spend HOURS manually deleting all of their recording rules (which can only be done with cmdline mysql or mythweb) and then manually figuring out all of their shows, channels, etc.

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clever[rev]:

you can simulate that for testing by switching between 2 similar providers

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clever[rev]:

like swaping between cable and sat inputs which have mostly the same channels

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tjcarter:

clever[rev]: I don't have to simulate it. I just moved.

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tjcarter:

And I've been at trying to fix it for over an hour already.

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clever[rev]:

yeah but for devs to sim it several times over while testing

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tjcarter:

I don't think they've ever simulated it. There's no provision anywhere in MythTV to migrate rules.

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tjcarter:

I mean, it's trying to record Stargate on Fox News Channel

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tjcarter:

it KNOWS that's what it's trying to do!

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clever[rev]:

rules which arent based on a channel will probly keep working

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tjcarter:

Most of my rules are based on channel

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clever[rev]:

some of my ruls i stuck to a certain channel because the show also airs on channels im not paying for

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tjcarter:

And I know what channels too--I don't have the capacity to edit that.

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tjcarter:

I mean, I know where Stargate should be recorded, and it's not Fox News!

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clever[rev]:

dont want it recording an hour of 'you must pay for this channel' then giving up a chance to record it later

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tjcarter:

That is fixed with channel editor and, in the US at least, zap2it website

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clever[rev]:

havent looked at that but i am using zap2it

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clever[rev]:

if i delete a channel would it just disapear in myth and not try to record from it?

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tjcarter:

I just want to know how to change the channel of a recording rule.

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tjcarter:

Apparently this is black magic that nobody here knows how to do.

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** clever[rev] looks at mythweb **

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clever[rev]:

which mysql table is it?

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tjcarter:

no, you have to delete it in myth too unless you do a --do-channel-updates

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tjcarter:

I'm not sure even.

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clever[rev]:

yay IE crashed while peeking at mythweb

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tjcarter:

The mythweb source is not documented in the most readable fashion for someone who knows PHP, but not necessarily MythWeb's structure.

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clever[rev]:

i know php and mysql

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ByteChanger:

what is ivtv?

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hads:

ivtvdriver.org is the website I believe

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onewheelskyward:

It's a driver that allows me to use my PVR-350 with Myth.

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clever[rev]:

tjcarter: i think the recordmatch table has the rules of what to record

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Keithamus:

Heylow peeps

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Keithamus:

Few questions about HDTV.

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Keithamus:

Can I play it without any hassle on mythtv? Can I play the .evo files easily? Is it transparent, like playing dvds?

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Zider:

how do I list several ips/hosts that should have access to the mythconverg database? comma and semicolon separated doesn't seem to work..

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Keithamus:

tried a space?

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Zider:

yeah

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Keithamus:

pipe?

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clever[rev]:

in mysql?

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clever[rev]:

you need to grant access to each

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clever[rev]:

1 by 1

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Zider:

clever[rev]: several entries?

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clever[rev]:

either add each host one at a time

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clever[rev]:

or just add the the host %

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clever[rev]:

which is the mysql form of a wildcard

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Zider:

I only want two ips

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clever[rev]:

then the name/pw will work from ANY host that can contact mysql

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clever[rev]:

grant all on mythconverg.`%` to `mythttv`@`host1` identified by ....;

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clever[rev]:

grant all on mythconverg.`%` to `mythttv`@`host2` identified by ....;

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clever[rev]:

...

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tjcarter:

clever[rev]: that's good, but it doesn't help me fix the records in it easily..

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tjcarter:

clever[rev]: ideal would be fixing mythweb to let me edit that channel

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clever[rev]:

all at once

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Zider:

clever[rev]: you wouldn't happen to know how to do that in webmins mysql interface, would you? ;)

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Keithamus:

btw, is mythweb looking for devs?

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clever[rev]:

update TABLENAME where COLUMN1 = 'VALUE' set COLUMN='newvalue';

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tjcarter:

clever[rev]: yeah, I am just afraid I'm too far into doing it the hard way to do that.

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tjcarter:

I have to do it one record at a time now

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clever[rev]:

the rules you deleted are gone

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clever[rev]:

but you might be abble to convert the remaining rules

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tjcarter:

no, I've recreated records with correct values

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tjcarter:

they'd get altered.

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Keithamus:

anybody??

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Zazza:

hey guys.. I'm searching for help... can I ask u something?

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clever[rev]:

ahhh

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clever[rev]:

but only if the wrong channel is also got its own records

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clever[rev]:

how often are you recording fox news?

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tjcarter:

Keithamus: I'm looking for a mythweb developer, but unless you're willing to do a PHP hack... ;)

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tjcarter:

clever[rev]: yeah, I fixed that one already.

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Keithamus:

whats the task tjcarter? Im up for it

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Keithamus:

perhaps I could also get my questions regarding HDTV answered?

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clever[rev]:

Keithamus: im able to play avi files nearly seamlessly thru mythvideo

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Keithamus:

evo files?

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clever[rev]:

if you have a player which can handle it you can make it part of mythtv

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Keithamus:

i think mplayer does it, but Im not 100% sure.

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Keithamus:

what res are your avis?

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clever[rev]:

mostly 640x480

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clever[rev]:

some are widescreen

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clever[rev]:

some are smaller

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Keithamus:

i just want 1080p 5.1 surround sound, however compressed and easy it is.

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clever[rev]:

a couple are h264

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Zazza:

what this mean: "MythTV is already using all available inputs for channel you selected..." ?

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Zazza:

?

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Scopeuk:

is it bad that i watced the top gear special and recognised the equipement in the dj setup?

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Zazza:

@rushfan... same here

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rushfan:

Zazza: What version mythtv do you have?

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rushfan:

I have mythtv-0.20_p12963

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Zazza:

well... guess 0.20

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Zazza:

I have a Terratec Cinergy Hybrid T XS (USB)

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rushfan:

oh

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Zazza:

what's the command to stop the backend?

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hads:

Use the init script

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hads:

Depending on your distro; /etc/init.d/mythbackend stop

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Zazza:

tells me that "stop" is an invalid argument

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** rushfan does uses sysinit anymore so he cant remember what the command should be **

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** hads likes BSD init **

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** rushfan likes initng **

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rushfan:

I hate killing time before going to a party. :|

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Zazza:

well... can't stop it...

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rushfan:

especially when I have to study for an exam or something that day

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