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| [00:03:20] | Ashton_Ke: | Hrm, I'm confused. |
| [00:03:57] | Ashton_Ke: | I'm using Gentoo, and I emerged it with the "frontendonly" USE flag, which makes sense, because the backend is on a separate computer. |
| [00:04:20] | Ashton_Ke: | However, following Gentoo's wiki isn't working. |
| [00:04:39] | GreyFoxx: | actually noone should use frontend only unless they are porting to another platform (which is why it exists) |
| [00:04:48] | Ashton_Ke: | That, would explain a lot. |
| [00:05:03] | GreyFoxx: | It shouldn't even be an automated option imho |
| [00:05:27] | Ashton_Ke: | Well, I set it in package.use, thinking it was the flag that should be turned on if you're setting up a front end only machine. |
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| [00:06:11] | Ashton_Ke: | It says I can skip setting up the initial database, and obviously setting up the backend would be silly. What about mythtv-setup? |
| [00:07:19] | GreyFoxx: | Depending on how your backend is configured you can skip it, BUT if you compile with frontendonly then that wont install mythtv-setup |
| [00:07:30] | GreyFoxx: | which is another reason not to use it heh |
| [00:07:52] | GreyFoxx: | The main thing you would do in mythtv-setup is to enure that master backend IP i set to the backend |
| [00:08:23] | Ashton_Ke: | Right. |
| [00:09:51] | Ashton_Ke: | But I'm assuming I don't need to go through setting up a location for Mythtv to record to, since that's a backend function? |
| [00:10:25] | GreyFoxx: | yeah, but personally I always set it to the exact same location as the backend uses cause I NFS mount that to the frontends |
| [00:11:29] | Ashton_Ke: | So the files are accessible from all the frontends. |
| [00:11:54] | vegeat: | greyfoxx!!! |
| [00:12:08] | Ashton_Ke: | I would, but I'm on a mixed Windows/Linux network. |
| [00:12:09] | GreyFoxx: | Ashton_Ke: on my machines , yes |
| [00:12:30] | Ashton_Ke: | I'll try that, after I'm sure that I can get a standard setup working. |
| [00:12:45] | ** Ashton_Ke forsees himself adding even more weak points into the process. ** | |
| [00:12:56] | jams: | GreyFoxx- would you mind double checking something in the settings code for me? Having some trouble finding if/what signals a ComboBox emits. |
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| [00:13:44] | jams: | err thats a HostComboBox |
| [00:15:25] | Ashton_Ke: | Right, so compiling MythTV from source takes a bit, I'm going to go eat. I'll probably be back with more "I broke everything!" moments later. |
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| [00:19:42] | GreyFoxx: | HostComboBox is a wrapper around ComboBoxSetting seems to accept destroyed, selectionscleared and changhelptext |
| [00:19:59] | GreyFoxx: | What are you looking to do ? |
| [00:21:44] | jams: | i was hoping use something like the highlighted or activated signal(from Qcombobox) to find the current value when the user changes a setting |
| [00:22:12] | jams: | I want the value before it's saved off to the database |
| [00:22:13] | vegeat: | My mythtv box is not autotranscoding, can someone help me? |
| [00:22:44] | GreyFoxx: | jams: ahh |
| [00:23:12] | jams: | I have it working for checkboxes |
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| [00:23:46] | jams: | I was really hoping I just wastn' reading the code correctly |
| [00:24:49] | jams: | GreyFoxx- http://jmeyer.us/e107_plugins/autogallery/aut . . . vancedX2.jpg |
| [00:25:40] | GreyFoxx: | Nifty |
| [00:25:50] | jams: | as of right now "Test X config" doesn't work until I find a way to read a comobox |
| [00:25:52] | GreyFoxx: | So you are just avoiding having it write the data to the settings table? |
| [00:25:57] | GreyFoxx: | ahhh |
| [00:26:20] | jams: | I don't want to save it to the database unless it's something the user really wants to use |
| [00:26:30] | GreyFoxx: | So you want "Test X config" to trigger another function and such |
| [00:26:38] | jams: | right |
| [00:27:04] | jams: | the trigger is working, but I have no data to pass |
| [00:27:51] | c0re: | can nuvexport be used as part of a "job" within myth to automaticly encode somthin after its been recorded? |
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| [00:28:56] | fryfrog: | man, the cpu socket bracket broke on my amd64 3000+ while i was swapping systems out :( |
| [00:29:15] | GreyFoxx: | jams: actually I was thinking about a setup window that would require just what you are describing |
| [00:29:24] | GreyFoxx: | hmmm |
| [00:29:28] | jams: | guess I could save the data, and also the previous values to switch back and forth |
| [00:29:48] | jams: | oh really! make it so |
| [00:30:11] | GreyFoxx: | hehe |
| [00:30:35] | jams: | thanks for letting me bug you on this stuff |
| [00:30:55] | GreyFoxx: | np, I'll try playing with this tonight |
| [00:31:03] | GreyFoxx: | after my daughters heads to bed heh |
| [00:31:30] | jams: | For not knowing any c++ when starting this project I must say it's been both fun and frustrating |
| [00:31:50] | jams: | "daughters" I thought you only had the one |
| [00:31:50] | GreyFoxx: | hehe that's the joy of it, learning and mostly figuring out something new on the way :) |
| [00:32:11] | GreyFoxx: | jams: I do have 1, but some days my wife acts like one :) |
| [00:32:32] | vegeat: | thats fucked up |
| [00:32:33] | vegeat: | lol |
| [00:32:46] | jams: | hehe |
| [00:33:02] | GreyFoxx: | Though I was mostly teasing her, she is reading as I type this hitting me for it ;) |
| [00:33:26] | dsl6476: | Any help? My mythbox got turned off. Now I can't burn anything longer than ~45mins because it says device full. My OS paritition has 900MB space on it, and I'm guessing that's the prob. What extra files/junk might be on my os partition due to someone unplugging off my myth box? |
| [00:34:14] | dsl6476: | any help greatly appreciated |
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| [00:38:18] | jams: | dsl6476- look for "core" files or log files. Another approach would be to change the mytharchive tmp dir to soemthing that has more space |
| [00:40:31] | dsl6476: | thanks jams. any tips on where I might find core or log files? |
| [00:41:43] | jams: | for core files do find / -name core |
| [00:42:03] | jams: | for log files look in /var/log for anything large |
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| [00:44:22] | dsl6476: | Thanks! I just found a 1/2 GB core file. type says "program crash data". Core files are core dumps from crashes? |
| [00:44:22] | Ashton_Ke: | Argh! |
| [00:44:26] | Ashton_Ke: | PEBKAC |
| [00:44:38] | Ashton_Ke: | No wonder it wasn't working. |
| [00:45:18] | Ashton_Ke: | My dad installed the backend on his spare comp (using... ubuntu?!?). But he mounted /var/lib to a 10gb xfs partition. Did I mention that computer has two 160 Gb IDE drives (I built it). |
| [00:46:17] | Ashton_Ke: | So he's reinstalling, with a new 200gb drive, the second 160 as his personal OS. So we'll have 190gb for whatever we record. But after spending 20 minutes trying to figure out why it won't work, I found out that he had wiped that computer clean. |
| [00:46:36] | Ashton_Ke: | By it, I mean my front end, upstairs. |
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| [00:47:13] | jams: | dsl6476- core dumps are the contents of the memory when the program crashed |
| [00:47:59] | dsl6476: | jams: is that 1/2GB core(prog crash data) file of use in restoring my system to earlier functionality? |
| [00:48:40] | Ashton_Ke: | If you have 1/2 a gig of crash logs, you might want to look into that. |
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| [00:52:33] | jams: | dsl6476- nope |
| [00:52:34] | dsl6476: | i was away from the mythbox for a while, and someone unplugged it. the os hd was full so the DE wouldn't start. deleted a few files, now the 1/2GB core file. now gonna look in /var/log . thanks |
| [00:53:03] | dsl6476: | ya, i'm sure ram contents would be unintelligible to me |
| [00:53:05] | jams: | dsl6476- it's only useful for advanced debugging |
| [00:53:08] | orko_: | hi. must the frontend be active to record a tv show? |
| [00:53:16] | jams: | orko_- nope |
| [00:53:17] | GreyFoxx: | orko_: No, just the backend |
| [00:53:20] | orko_: | hi mean after a schedules one for recording |
| [00:53:26] | orko_: | ok. thanks |
| [00:53:41] | orko_: | cu. good night |
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| [01:08:02] | dsl6476: | jams and ashton: in /var/log I have a 310MB file "messages.2" file type unknown, and I can't seem to read it. Any ideas? |
| [01:11:54] | NightMonkey: | dsl6476: zcat /var/log/messages.2 | less |
| [01:12:08] | NightMonkey: | dsl6476: Might work. |
| [01:13:14] | Ashton_Ke: | No clue, I'm just a smart alec, not a guru. |
| [01:14:00] | NightMonkey: | dsl6476: Are you trying to read it from Windows? |
| [01:14:17] | dsl6476: | linux (mythdora) |
| [01:14:38] | dsl6476: | i'm just a newbie |
| [01:14:43] | NightMonkey: | dsl6476: Hmm... What happens when you type "less /var/log/messages.2"? |
| [01:14:53] | fryfrog: | on the newer motherboards, what do you call the plastic bracket around the cpu socket that holds the hs/fan on? |
| [01:15:09] | NightMonkey: | dsl6476: (BTW, it's a rotated log file) |
| [01:15:27] | dsl6476: | should i try less or zcat first? |
| [01:15:42] | NightMonkey: | dsl6476: less, then if that doesn't work, zcat. |
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| [01:18:05] | dsl6476: | permission denied. then i tried sudo but "sorry, user mythtv is not allowed to execute..." |
| [01:18:50] | onewheelskyward: | dsl6476: You need to add mythtv to the wheel group to su, or to sudoers to perform sudo commands. |
| [01:18:53] | NightMonkey: | dsl6476: Yeah, you need to fix /etc/sudoers to allow you to see it, or "su -" to root to be able to access. |
| [01:18:58] | dsl6476: | same "sorry..." message trying sudo zcat |
| [01:19:39] | NightMonkey: | dsl6476: Yeah, it's permissions. Nothing you use as that user can get to it. |
| [01:21:11] | dsl6476: | sweet, i didn't know "su -" would make me root. is there a reciprocal command to make me mythtv again |
| [01:23:45] | dsl6476: | well messages.2 seems to have pairs of entries: "all encoder mpeg stream buffers are full. dropping data" and "cause: the app is not reading fast enough" |
| [01:23:55] | fryfrog: | dsl6476: "exit" :) |
| [01:25:26] | dsl6476: | thx fryfrog |
| [01:27:05] | dsl6476: | then page after page of various errors or warnings "illegal request" "cannot read medium" "failed packet" "packet command error" and on and on |
| [01:27:13] | GreyFoxx: | man, sometimes I really love perl for little scripts |
| [01:27:23] | GreyFoxx: | somedays I hate it, but most of the time I love it :) |
| [01:29:33] | tanq: | what is a good middle of the road HD tuner card? |
| [01:29:47] | tanq: | i swear I have asked this question three times with no response... |
| [01:31:05] | fryfrog: | air2pc is atsc/qam |
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| [01:31:12] | fryfrog: | there really is no middle of the road |
| [01:31:17] | fryfrog: | it either works in linux or it doesn't |
| [01:31:24] | fryfrog: | the airp2c hd5000? or is it 5500? |
| [01:31:35] | fryfrog: | and there is another umm, hdtv5000 maybe? |
| [01:31:37] | dsl6476: | have you looked at the phHDTV |
| [01:31:40] | fryfrog: | i always get the two confused |
| [01:31:42] | fryfrog: | ah, thats it |
| [01:31:48] | dsl6476: | pcHDTV |
| [01:31:49] | fryfrog: | pcHDTV 5500 or 5000 |
| [01:32:49] | dsl6476: | i was looking at it, but was hoping it had hardware mpeg2 encoding for analog ntsc, but it doesn't |
| [01:33:19] | fryfrog: | as far as i know, none of them do |
| [01:33:25] | fryfrog: | it would make the card like 2x more expensive |
| [01:33:31] | dsl6476: | I think ATI's does, but i haven't seen it listed in the myth card matrix |
| [01:33:40] | fryfrog: | my suggestion would be to not bother with ntsc on your HD card :/ |
| [01:33:44] | tanq: | it seems that the pchdtvs are out of stock.. Do they resell? |
| [01:33:51] | fryfrog: | ati cards have 0 to less than 0 support in linux |
| [01:34:05] | dsl6476: | hahaha |
| [01:34:34] | tanq: | i must have been on some weird site yesterday.. |
| [01:34:52] | dsl6476: | it seemed like it made sense to get a pcHDTV 5xxx and a Hauppauge 150 if I want both. |
| [01:35:00] | fryfrog: | okay, i might be exagerating :) |
| [01:35:06] | fryfrog: | yeah, that'd work |
| [01:35:11] | fryfrog: | the 150 is only like $50–60 bucks |
| [01:35:19] | tanq: | yeah i have a 150 but i need an hd tuner now. |
| [01:35:24] | fryfrog: | firewire from your cable box is the best though :) |
| [01:36:17] | dsl6476: | whoa, FW from cable box, but how change channels? with a ir blaster? |
| [01:37:03] | fryfrog: | generally, over firewire |
| [01:37:08] | fryfrog: | I have a pair of DCT6412's hooked to my backend via firewire |
| [01:37:15] | fryfrog: | i get *every* channel i pay for in digital form |
| [01:37:18] | fryfrog: | its nice |
| [01:37:23] | tanq: | so are there any drawbacks to the HD5500? |
| [01:37:23] | fryfrog: | (HD and SD) |
| [01:37:32] | tanq: | as opposed to other available cards. |
| [01:37:34] | fryfrog: | there are only like 6 OTA HD channels? |
| [01:37:40] | fryfrog: | nah, if it works in linux it works :) |
| [01:37:47] | fryfrog: | HD signal is an HD signal |
| [01:38:00] | tanq: | dsl6476: i bought it at Frys for 129.99 |
| [01:38:02] | fryfrog: | i suspect that card has little linux support? |
| [01:38:20] | dj_segfault: | It's all about the chipset. |
| [01:38:24] | tanq: | yeah i'm returning the 1600 because it isn't supported from what i hear. |
| [01:38:46] | tanq: | that is why i'm looking for another card. I bought it on a whim and assumed it worked. |
| [01:39:16] | dsl6476: | someone said the hvr1600 uses a new chipset, and they're not sharing the data sheet on it, so it'll be supported 6 months after they share that. could be soon or never |
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| [01:43:23] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [01:43:55] | dsl6476: | fryfrog: so the firewire option need no tuner card then, right? (waycool) |
| [01:47:39] | dsl6476: | where's there info on the firewire option? |
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| [01:49:23] | fryfrog: | search the myth wiki, for firewire |
| [01:49:28] | fryfrog: | and right, don't need a tuner card |
| [01:49:35] | fryfrog: | so if you *have* a box already, its worth trying |
| [01:49:59] | fryfrog: | its also worth trying if your cable co rents boxes with firewire (usually on the HD models in comcast afaik) |
| [01:50:13] | dsl6476: | very sweet. i wonder if comcast and directv have fw ports |
| [01:50:21] | fryfrog: | dtv, no |
| [01:50:31] | fryfrog: | cable companies are required to offer them by law |
| [01:50:40] | dsl6476: | SWEET! |
| [01:50:46] | fryfrog: | but they *aren't* required to not encrypt (5c) the output |
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| [01:50:57] | dsl6476: | oh. |
| [01:50:59] | fryfrog: | so your results will depend on the company *and* area :( |
| [01:51:05] | dsl6476: | but your is unencrypted? |
| [01:51:09] | fryfrog: | so its worth a *try* but don't get your hopes up |
| [01:51:23] | fryfrog: | yeah, in my area it would *seem* that the HD PVRs output everything unecnrypted |
| [01:52:05] | fryfrog: | i haven't tried a plain HD tuner, because when i asked to trade in my DVR for a pair of tuners... |
| [01:52:17] | dsl6476: | oh, so you have a cable co pvr. or is that standard on the hd boxes...? |
| [01:52:20] | fryfrog: | the installer came out with 2 *new* dvrs and said "no stock on the hd tuners, sorry" |
| [01:52:43] | fryfrog: | comcast in my area has an SD cable box that is tiny and only has RCA out |
| [01:52:52] | fryfrog: | and in *theory* they have two HD boxes, a "tuner" and a pvr |
| [01:53:01] | fryfrog: | i've never seen the tuner, despite hoping for one :) |
| [01:53:24] | fryfrog: | my dcp6412's are finiky and troublesome, but once they get going they are nice |
| [01:53:35] | fryfrog: | they like to swap their "node" for some reason :p |
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| [01:56:19] | tyce: | anyone using myth with the Mitsubishi HD1000u projector? I'm looking for a ModeLine for it... |
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| [02:08:10] | dsl6476: | how do i change the mytharchive tmp dir to my partition with my recordings? in myth settings, or mythsetup? |
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| [02:09:26] | shift8: | hi all – anyone have a good resource for the various hd / hdv codecs, encoding options, comparison, etc? |
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| [02:16:26] | ** gleesond got his wintv-pvr 150 ** | |
| [02:16:28] | gleesond: | anyone know how to configure it with mythtv |
| [02:16:31] | gleesond: | for some reason its not letting me get to all my channels |
| [02:17:24] | dsl6476: | sorry shift8, perhaps the website has codec comparison info |
| [02:18:32] | dsl6476: | gleesond: i think i remember setting the tuner range to catv instead of broadcast (just like a tv or vcr's tuner option) |
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| [02:19:31] | dsl6476: | gotta run, thanks much fryfrog and jams |
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| [02:19:58] | shift8: | ok – one more random question – anyone know if advancements have been made in supporting the us version of the pinnicle HD PRO usb stick tuner? |
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| [02:26:47] | fryfrog: | damnit, the kernel in ubuntu doesn't support growing raid5 arrays! |
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| [02:29:32] | daMaestro: | is there any way to prevent myth building png preview images? |
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| [02:35:31] | justdave: | Anyone know an svn build date I can pull from to get protocol 31 support? |
| [02:36:05] | justdave: | the current "stable" builds for Mac OS X are protocol 30, and svn trunk nightly builds are protocol 32 |
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| [02:36:18] | justdave: | my server (on linux) is protocol 31 and I need a client on os x :) |
| [02:36:19] | GreyFoxx: | 0.20-fixes is 31 |
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| [02:36:52] | justdave: | yeah, the site with svn builds for os x only seems to have trunk |
| [02:36:53] | GreyFoxx: | never compiled it for OSX though |
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| [02:37:20] | GreyFoxx: | I didn't have a mac until last Friday, so I haven't gotten around to putting a myth client on it yet |
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| [02:39:13] | fryfrog: | damnit, i switched to ubuntu to *avoid* compiling all this shit :/ |
| [02:39:24] | fryfrog: | now i find out that the 2.6.17 kernel is compiled w/o raid5 growing :/ |
| [02:39:34] | GreyFoxx: | hehe |
| [02:39:57] | fryfrog: | so do i go balls to the wall and just compile 2.6.20 on my own? |
| [02:40:04] | fryfrog: | or recompile their fucking 2.6.17 |
| [02:41:14] | daMaestro: | mwhahahah.. i'm using FC6 and have not had to compile anything {:-) |
| [02:41:30] | fryfrog: | should have stayed with gentoo :p |
| [02:42:20] | daMaestro: | http://dev.damaestro.us/myth.png |
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| [02:43:09] | justdave: | ok, got it, found a 0.20-fixes binary for OS X |
| [02:43:18] | fryfrog: | stupid question... |
| [02:43:28] | fryfrog: | the "grow" is an experimental feature underneath the raid5 module |
| [02:43:37] | justdave: | now I just have to find my S-Video->composite adapter to hook this thing up to the TV |
| [02:43:37] | fryfrog: | do you think i can just compile and swap the "raid5" module? |
| [02:44:32] | shift8: | fryfrog; if you use the same k headers and source to build with. |
| [02:44:38] | c0re: | can nuvexport be used as part of a "job" within myth to automaticly encode to xvid after its been recorded? |
| [02:44:57] | shift8: | fryfrog: you might also want to google "symbol versioning" |
| [02:45:54] | fryfrog: | yeah, i'm just using the ubuntu "source" so it should (in theory) all match up |
| [02:46:11] | shift8: | yep |
| [02:46:22] | fryfrog: | i wonder which raid modules i need to swap |
| [02:46:27] | fryfrog: | if the "raid5" one is enough |
| [02:46:32] | fryfrog: | or if i need to do md and all that stuff too |
| [02:46:48] | fryfrog: | fuck, why couldn't they have just enabled it? |
| [02:47:37] | sandeen_: | "# |
| [02:47:37] | sandeen_: | " |
| [02:47:39] | sandeen_: | doh |
| [02:48:08] | shift8: | fryfrog: for the same reason rh enterprise, fc, and any other distro targeting main stream wouldn't |
| [02:48:19] | fryfrog: | yeah, i spose :( |
| [02:48:36] | shift8: | then quit bitchin :) |
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| [02:52:47] | GreyFoxx: | justdave: Where do you get the nightly OSX builds of SVN trunk ? |
| [02:53:10] | justdave: | there's links to them on the MythTV wiki |
| [02:53:18] | GreyFoxx: | ahhh, of course |
| [02:53:20] | GreyFoxx: | thanks |
| [02:53:47] | fryfrog: | god, compiling a kernel in ubuntu looks retarded hard to do it "their" way |
| [02:53:51] | justdave: | http://www.mthtv.org/wiki/index.php/Myth_on_Mac_OS_X |
| [02:53:53] | fryfrog: | guess i'll do it some other time |
| [02:54:10] | gleesond: | anyone know of a good walkthrough for building lirc |
| [02:54:26] | shift8: | fryfrog: it's the same as any other distro... |
| [02:54:45] | justdave: | fryfrog: haven't tried it yet, but is there more to it than running debbuild in the source directory? |
| [02:55:22] | justdave: | of course, that would only work if you wanted to build exactly the same kernel they're already distributing |
| [02:55:43] | justdave: | if you wanted to change compile option in the kernel you probably have to go through the kernel build menu and the works |
| [02:55:49] | fryfrog: | shift8: not really, "their" way has you build packages |
| [02:55:53] | fryfrog: | and use their tools |
| [02:56:03] | fryfrog: | then use their tools to build their "restricted-modules" too |
| [02:56:26] | justdave: | fryfrog: that sounds the same as any other distro |
| [02:56:33] | GreyFoxx: | hah |
| [02:56:36] | shift8: | not exactly |
| [02:56:39] | fryfrog: | and then, of course since "their" tool puts some tiny little changes into the kernel version, you have to recompile all the *other* modules |
| [02:56:46] | fryfrog: | not quite |
| [02:57:03] | fryfrog: | in gentoo, i'd just recompile my kernel (same version only of course) and every other module would still work with it |
| [02:57:19] | justdave: | although I must admit getting a sane package building environment in either Debian or Ubuntu takes a bit or work |
| [02:57:22] | fryfrog: | because i didn't change the name from like "2.6.17–11" to "2.6.17-YOU COMPILED YOUR OWN KERNEL ASSHOLE" |
| [02:57:55] | shift8: | fryfrog: ignore all that shit, get the source, copy the .config from the ubuntu tree, make menuconfig (or xconfig/gconfig), enable the grow option, make, make modules, make modules-install, make install |
| [02:58:18] | justdave: | on RHEL or Fedora you pretty much install "rpm-build" and all the rpm tools are there. |
| [02:58:48] | shift8: | you'll need to skip further kernel/module updates from the apt-based auto update |
| [02:58:50] | justdave: | on Ubuntu there were a bunch of debhelper and deb-tools and deb-foo stuff I had to install before any of the docs on how to build packages actually worked |
| [02:59:09] | GreyFoxx: | I don't think I've used and out of the box distro kernel in 14 years for longer than it takes to compile my own after the initial install |
| [02:59:25] | shift8: | word |
| [03:00:10] | fryfrog: | GreyFoxx: yeah, i'd be happy to do that if i were on gentoo :p |
| [03:00:35] | fryfrog: | man, i was so excited to be adding a 6th 320G drive to my array :p |
| [03:00:49] | shift8: | although, w/ the preemption and scheduling / capabilities rolled in, i haven't done so w/ my ubuntu laptop. a first for me, and big props to dapper |
| [03:00:50] | GreyFoxx: | fryfrog: I ran gentoo once for a couple days back in '02 to try it out. But like everytime I try a new distro I end up going "home again" heh |
| [03:00:59] | fryfrog: | home to what? |
| [03:01:22] | GreyFoxx: | now the only boxes I have to use gentoo is a couple colo boxes I have to maintain , but are the customers and I can't change the base distro :) |
| [03:01:22] | fryfrog: | for me, gentoo is home :( |
| [03:01:26] | GreyFoxx: | fryfrog: Slackware |
| [03:01:30] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [03:01:41] | GreyFoxx: | Been a user since the first release |
| [03:01:46] | fryfrog: | Slackware was the first linux distro i ever tried, way back in the stone age |
| [03:01:55] | shift8: | i haven't used slackware since 1.2 – how is it these days? |
| [03:01:56] | fryfrog: | it made me stop using linux for about a year :) |
| [03:02:03] | fryfrog: | wasn't a good beginer os when i was a linux newb |
| [03:02:26] | GreyFoxx: | fryfrog: heh, the counter argument is that if you aren't forced to learn most peo;le never will :) |
| [03:02:38] | fryfrog: | i wonder if i should just get around this by booting from a livecd of some sorts |
| [03:02:43] | GreyFoxx: | shift8: I use it on hundreds of machines, every day, it does what I need :) |
| [03:02:44] | fryfrog: | ah, thats why i liked gentoo |
| [03:02:54] | fryfrog: | it forces you to learn, but it also has good pkg mgmt |
| [03:03:11] | fryfrog: | course, waiting an hour for X to compile kind of sucks :) |
| [03:03:26] | shift8: | --omg-optomized --o9 :) |
| [03:03:39] | fryfrog: | --zomg-wtf-so-fast-11 |
| [03:04:02] | shift8: | indeed :) |
| [03:04:27] | fryfrog: | humm, i guess to rebuild any modules that are going to barf i'll prolly need to boot *into* the new kernel |
| [03:04:31] | shift8: | (twasj – i *hate* it when people say "indeed") |
| [03:04:42] | fryfrog: | INDEED! |
| [03:04:49] | fryfrog: | what is twasj? |
| [03:04:59] | shift8: | arrrtghh! my eyes! the goggles do nah-ting! |
| [03:05:05] | shift8: | stupid joke |
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| [03:05:22] | fryfrog: | simpsons! |
| [03:05:25] | fryfrog: | but what does twasj stand for? |
| [03:05:35] | shift8: | that was a stupid joke |
| [03:05:46] | fryfrog: | OHHH |
| [03:05:49] | fryfrog: | thats the noise the scientest says |
| [03:06:02] | shift8: | variant of "that was a joke son" twajs |
| [03:06:19] | fryfrog: | oh |
| [03:06:22] | fryfrog: | omg |
| [03:06:22] | fryfrog: | i'm retarded |
| [03:06:31] | fryfrog: | "that was a stupid joke" :p |
| [03:06:52] | fryfrog: | i thought you were saying that it was a dumb joke, refering to the sound that scientest in the simpson's makes :p |
| [03:06:59] | fryfrog: | anyway, imma go get on the short bus |
| [03:07:36] | shift8: | haha – no. both the "indeed" and "omg-optomized" was a stupid joke on my part |
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| [03:23:35] | NightMonkey: | Question for any MythTV on MacOS X users: I see the PPC wiki says that it cannot handle mythtv as a backend. Not even to be a job host for transcode jobs? |
| [03:24:38] | justdave: | most of the codecs only work on x86 |
| [03:24:45] | justdave: | if your mac is intel, it can do it |
| [03:24:50] | justdave: | otherwise, no |
| [03:25:03] | justdave: | the frontend works fine though |
| [03:25:28] | NightMonkey: | Ah, I see. It's the pesky codecs. Thanks, justdave. |
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| [03:26:05] | NightMonkey: | I'm thinking of getting a Mac Mini to handle transcode jobs. |
| [03:26:28] | justdave: | what's transcode do anyway? |
| [03:26:35] | ** justdave is still new at this stuff ** | |
| [03:27:08] | NightMonkey: | justdave: Converstion of videos from one format to another. Say, MPEG-2 to AVI/MPEG-4/etc. |
| [03:27:40] | justdave: | oh. save disk space? :) |
| [03:27:53] | mishehu: | at the expense of quality (usually) |
| [03:27:58] | justdave: | I know the stuff coming in off the capture card is MPEG-2 |
| [03:28:02] | mishehu: | and of course, processing time |
| [03:28:06] | justdave: | (usually) |
| [03:28:08] | NightMonkey: | justdave: Yep, or just downsampling, etc. |
| [03:28:38] | mikal: | justdave: and to formats supported by other players like PSP, iPod, n800 et al |
| [03:28:46] | justdave: | my backend must be doing that already, the files all seem to be .mp4 |
| [03:28:51] | NightMonkey: | I guess I could also pawn off commercial flagging jobs to the Mac Mini, too. |
| [03:29:02] | justdave: | hmm, I never thought of that... |
| [03:29:11] | justdave: | (iPod) |
| [03:29:29] | NightMonkey: | Yeah, lots of fun uses. :) |
| [03:29:30] | justdave: | I have one. Is there a plugin for mythweb to do rss feeds to pull into iTunes or anything? |
| [03:29:54] | justdave: | could set up a feed for my recordings and grab them for the iPod :) |
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| [03:31:12] | NightMonkey: | G'Night, all. |
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| [03:32:33] | xris: | justdave: you'd have to have a way to get ipod-compatible recordings into mythweb first |
| [03:32:41] | monkeyBox: | Help! all of the sudden mythfrontend won't show the UI menus. All I see is the blue background. What gives? |
| [03:32:53] | xris: | monkeyBox: recent upgrade? |
| [03:33:13] | xris: | sounds like the "gl painter + old theme" bug |
| [03:33:15] | justdave: | xris: I assume that's what the transcode jobs we were discussing above would be for |
| [03:33:52] | justdave: | I have monkeyBox's problem, but only via VNC. |
| [03:34:00] | justdave: | on the local display it works fine |
| [03:34:15] | xris: | justdave: not within mythtv. transcoding only goes between mpeg2 and nuv |
| [03:34:26] | justdave: | (and VNC sees it fine if I hit the Refresh button frequently, it just doesn't update) |
| [03:34:28] | xris: | .21 might have support for other formats, but for now, your option is to use nuvexport. |
| [03:34:31] | monkeyBox: | xris it worked not to long ago, and I haven't upgraded since then |
| [03:34:51] | xris: | monkeyBox: alt-tab to another window. do things come back? |
| [03:35:20] | monkeyBox: | xris.. hmm, nope |
| [03:35:26] | monkeyBox: | using just fluxbox and xterm |
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| [03:35:48] | xris: | monkeyBox: not the bug I know of, then |
| [03:36:26] | xris: | monkeyBox: you could always try switching to the qt painter, though. |
| [03:36:40] | monkeyBox: | xris: scratch that, I _can_ alt+tab |
| [03:36:46] | xris: | mythfrontend -O ThemePainter=qt |
| [03:36:56] | xris: | monkeyBox: do things come back when you do, though? |
| [03:37:05] | xris: | anyway, run mythfrontend with that option and tell me if it fixes things |
| [03:37:30] | monkeyBox: | xris, no, things don't come back when I alt+tab |
| [03:37:48] | monkeyBox: | any idea how I can change the qt painter when I can't access the settings? |
| [03:38:04] | xris: | yeah. run mythfrontend with the option I just showed you |
| [03:38:08] | xris: | that'll change it for that session |
| [03:38:33] | sandeen_: | anybody have a good suggestion for a mobo w/ both dvi & digital audio onboard? |
| [03:39:03] | xris: | sandeen_: it'd have to be an amd + nvidia one for good linux support |
| [03:39:10] | sandeen_: | yep |
| [03:39:37] | xris: | I personally avoid tyan, but have no recommendations beyond that (I tend to stick to intel because I get better deals from them) |
| [03:39:41] | sandeen_: | i know i've found them on newegg before but having a helluva time searching now for some reason |
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| [03:57:52] | ctjctj: | good evening. My cable provider is currently beta testing hdtv transmissions. These are located around channel 85. The zapit service does not report these hdtv channels. What is the easiest way to insert listing information for these channels into the guide? (they are dups of other channels but in high def) |
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| [03:59:00] | dennister: | hello pps: having a bit of difficulty diagnosing a new problem with static, only on some channels, even though my mythtv setup was working perfectly last night |
| [03:59:17] | jams: | you know I can't decide how I feel about compusa closing all those stores |
| [03:59:39] | jams: | they closed the two around me |
| [03:59:39] | Milosch: | did they |
| [04:00:08] | dennister: | i've already eliminated the newish tuner as a possible culprit, as the same channels are working perfectly with mplayer |
| [04:00:34] | jams: | http://www.compusa.com/locations/store.asp |
| [04:00:36] | dennister: | any ideas as to what might have gone wrong? |
| [04:00:45] | jams: | Milosch- yes they now only have 100 stores |
| [04:00:53] | Milosch: | jams: hehe, store.asp not stores ;) |
| [04:01:03] | Milosch: | yeah, just now reading about it |
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| [04:01:32] | Milosch: | when i do shop locally it's usually at MicroCenter |
| [04:01:41] | Milosch: | but I think they only have 3 stores or something |
| [04:02:00] | jams: | yeah MicroCenter issn't anywhere clost to me |
| [04:02:15] | jams: | Frys is about 100 miles away |
| [04:02:44] | jams: | very strange they closed ALL the stores in chicago |
| [04:02:51] | Milosch: | there are a few frys in town, but i almost always walk out without whatver I was looking for |
| [04:03:14] | Milosch: | i was wrong about microcenter, but I think ours was their second store back when they opened |
| [04:03:23] | dennister: | i don't mean to be rude, but isn't this shopping-talk a little off-topic? |
| [04:03:46] | Milosch: | ok, for example, frys didn't have any Hauppauge cards |
| [04:03:51] | Milosch: | there you go |
| [04:04:31] | tanq: | Fry's tends to carry avermedia and pinnacle |
| [04:04:48] | Milosch: | yep |
| [04:04:51] | tanq: | But I did pick up a Hauppauge card at frys |
| [04:04:54] | jams: | dennister- yes it is off topic, if someone knows the answer to you question they will respond |
| [04:04:57] | Milosch: | weird |
| [04:05:02] | tanq: | the unsupported HVR-1600 |
| [04:05:06] | Milosch: | aha |
| [04:05:14] | Milosch: | still have it? |
| [04:05:23] | tanq: | yeah i'm gonna return it |
| [04:05:38] | tanq: | i'm about to order the HD-5500.. |
| [04:05:38] | Milosch: | i was wondering if the atsc part works |
| [04:05:52] | Milosch: | oh, the pctv card? |
| [04:06:05] | dennister: | i guess no one does :( |
| [04:06:16] | tanq: | well it is apparently very unsupported by myth. i'm not even sure what chipset it has and if there are drivers for it. |
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| [04:06:33] | Milosch: | dennister: are you sure it's not weather related, or is this hd |
| [04:06:53] | dennister: | it's not weather-related, it's cable |
| [04:06:55] | Milosch: | k, i heard some rumour that that part did work |
| [04:07:01] | jams: | or maybe changed some settings? |
| [04:07:03] | sandeen_: | cables get wet :) |
| [04:07:14] | Milosch: | dennister: ok, i meant to say environmentally related, and could still happen with cable |
| [04:07:22] | tanq: | no he said that mplayer works fine |
| [04:07:41] | jams: | are the channels numbers high or low that work |
| [04:08:00] | Milosch: | and is your load avg at 9 or something? :) |
| [04:08:19] | dennister: | yes, did change some settings, cause i came home and found no guide, i did fix the db error that was corrupted, but then this new problem existed after i fixed the db corruption error |
| [04:08:46] | dennister: | all the channels above 9 don't work, but do in mplayer |
| [04:09:25] | Milosch: | you mean you get ONLY static? |
| [04:09:31] | dennister: | yep |
| [04:09:33] | Milosch: | ah |
| [04:10:11] | Milosch: | in mythtv-setup there is a setting per card or something for the tuning format/std e.g. cable or ... |
| [04:10:30] | jams: | then I would check the freq standard. broadcast vs cable |
| [04:10:46] | dennister: | i've now got new guide data, so it's not that, all channels i should get i do in mplayer...has to be something with mythtv's internal tuner software or the database |
| [04:11:05] | dennister: | i haven't changed the freq setting... |
| [04:11:14] | Milosch: | doesn't mean it didn't change... |
| [04:11:25] | kormoc: | denken, both mplayer and myth use v4l api and drivers |
| [04:11:26] | Milosch: | since you said you had some corruption, who knows |
| [04:11:55] | kormoc: | erm, that was to dennister |
| [04:11:59] | dennister: | no, both do *not* have corruption...only mythtv gives static on only channels 9+ |
| [04:12:10] | Milosch: | can you at least check it |
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| [04:12:18] | Milosch: | because that would definitely cause it |
| [04:12:21] | dennister: | check the freq? |
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| [04:12:58] | dennister: | sure...happy to check everything again, with the assistance of more exp ppl willing to try to help |
| [04:13:03] | dennister: | brb |
| [04:15:20] | jams: | hey there is a microcenter somewhat close to me, it's about a two hour drive but only 30 minutes from work |
| [04:16:37] | Milosch: | might be worth a peek |
| [04:17:33] | dennister: | lol...i do remember checking the frequency in mythtv-setup, and everything was fine/unchanged... |
| [04:17:42] | jams: | maybe next time I go to frys I will go the extra miles to microcenter |
| [04:18:00] | dennister: | but yes, somehow the db corruption fix had changed it from us-cable to us-broadcast |
| [04:18:24] | jams: | there you go |
| [04:18:36] | dennister: | in other words....problem fixed! yayyyyyyyy....thank you very much ppl...will remember this if it ever happens again |
| [04:19:11] | Milosch: | next time try to keep it on topic |
| [04:19:25] | Milosch: | tee hee |
| [04:19:43] | dennister: | night all |
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| [04:30:19] | defaultro: | off topic question guys about rsync. Can rsync handle 160g-200g single binary file well? |
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| [04:37:56] | daMaestro: | defaultro, geeze.. you going to post in every channel? |
| [04:38:08] | acr: | hallelujah for a mythtv irc channel with more than 10 people! |
| [04:38:10] | daMaestro: | defaultro, http://giyf.us/rsync+max+file+size |
| [04:39:13] | daMaestro: | defaultro, it seems the max size would be limited by the filesystem |
| [04:40:39] | Dr_willis: | i agree there. |
| [04:41:07] | daMaestro: | defaultro, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3 looks like minimally max size is 16GB |
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| [04:42:04] | defaultro: | oh |
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| [04:42:27] | defaultro: | no one was answering earlier |
| [04:42:37] | daMaestro: | well i had to look it up |
| [04:42:40] | daMaestro: | as you should have. |
| [04:42:43] | defaultro: | I did too |
| [04:42:49] | defaultro: | but found that max was 1gig |
| [04:43:14] | defaultro: | but fedorared told me that it should be able to handle the size I'm transfering |
| [04:43:16] | daMaestro: | i expect it depends on block size |
| [04:43:49] | defaultro: | k |
| [04:44:28] | sandeen_: | with 4k blocks you can do 2T offsets |
| [04:44:36] | defaultro: | wow |
| [04:44:44] | defaultro: | that means, it should be no problem then |
| [04:44:44] | sandeen_: | on ext3. |
| [04:45:05] | sandeen_: | that means ext3 should cope. but tridge is no dummy and I doubt there are serious problems in rsync w/ largefiles |
| [04:45:32] | defaultro: | i will have to verify the files tomorrow and maybe, my officemate was wrong with the db size |
| [04:45:37] | defaultro: | 160g is huge |
| [04:45:54] | defaultro: | but he can be correct too |
| [04:45:58] | sandeen_: | compared to what? :) |
| [04:46:20] | defaultro: | i was hoping that they were just 10g |
| [04:46:45] | defaultro: | currently, when the dba ftps the file, it takes her 6 hours to ftp it |
| [04:47:12] | defaultro: | i will check the files again |
| [04:47:18] | daMaestro: | do you expect rsync to be faster? |
| [04:47:20] | Dr_willis: | Hmm.. some on the fly compression may help.. (id hope!) |
| [04:47:23] | defaultro: | oh yeah, I did it |
| [04:47:27] | defaultro: | it's totally fast |
| [04:47:47] | defaultro: | this morning, i compared rsync vs ftp, and rsync was 85% better |
| [04:48:02] | defaultro: | it took 12secs to copy 400mb file from california to chicago |
| [04:48:04] | sandeen_: | -rw-rw-r-- 1 sandeen sandeen 1.0P Feb 27 22:49 bigfile |
| [04:48:06] | sandeen_: | mmmm big files. |
| [04:48:12] | daMaestro: | LOL |
| [04:48:22] | daMaestro: | mmmm petabytegoodness |
| [04:48:27] | defaultro: | then I use ftp to transfer the same files, it tooks 9 minutes |
| [04:48:28] | kormoc: | Mmm... Sparce files... |
| [04:48:37] | defaultro: | sandeen, is that true? :) |
| [04:48:46] | sandeen_: | defaultro, yes that is a real file. |
| [04:48:50] | defaultro: | wow |
| [04:48:57] | defaultro: | i'm envied :) |
| [04:49:07] | sandeen_: | -rw-rw-r-- 1 sandeen sandeen 1.0E Feb 27 22:50 bigfile |
| [04:49:08] | sandeen_: | ooh bigger! |
| [04:49:25] | sandeen_: | kormoc, shhhhhhh! |
| [04:49:39] | sandeen_: | [sandeen@sandeen tmp]$ du -hc bigfile |
| [04:49:39] | sandeen_: | 0 bigfile |
| [04:49:39] | kormoc: | :P |
| [04:49:41] | Dr_willis: | thats a lot of porn.. err... vacation videos |
| [04:49:44] | sandeen_: | defaultro, it's a sparse file. |
| [04:49:56] | defaultro: | lol |
| [04:49:58] | defaultro: | sparse? |
| [04:50:15] | kormoc: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparse_file |
| [04:50:16] | sandeen_: | it has a very large maximum offset, but no blocks allocated to it. |
| [04:50:18] | defaultro: | but i love the 42.zip hack before |
| [04:50:18] | Dr_willis: | like the hair on my head... |
| [04:50:26] | sandeen_: | hey my head too! |
| [04:51:03] | sandeen_: | ugh that's a horrible wikipedia entry |
| [04:51:05] | sandeen_: | "When space has been allocated to a file but not actually filled with data it is not written to the file system." |
| [04:51:10] | sandeen_: | the space is -not- allocated, that's the point |
| [04:51:11] | defaultro: | ah |
| [04:51:14] | defaultro: | i get it |
| [04:51:28] | defaultro: | did you use dd? |
| [04:51:39] | sandeen_: | I have a little program called truncate, but you could use dd |
| [04:51:42] | sandeen_: | seek way out, write one byte |
| [04:51:46] | defaultro: | cool |
| [04:51:50] | sandeen_: | no need for all those 0 blocks in between. |
| [04:51:54] | t0ny-p40: | Wtf I think my ati all in wonder ve keeps crashing my mythbox :/ |
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| [04:52:11] | defaultro: | guys, are those r5000hd boxes worth the buy? |
| [04:52:25] | defaultro: | don't know if they're boxes though, maybe chips |
| [04:52:31] | defaultro: | modchips |
| [04:52:51] | ** sandeen_ apologizes for the OT stupid filesystem tricks ;-) ** | |
| [04:53:01] | kormoc: | sandeen, heh, could fix the wikipedia entry |
| [04:53:02] | defaultro: | no needed dude |
| [04:53:19] | sandeen_: | kormoc, yeah I should |
| [04:53:22] | sandeen_: | *yawn* |
| [04:54:27] | ** sandeen_ calls the RIAA ** | |
| [04:54:32] | defaultro: | shhhh |
| [04:54:40] | Milosch: | you really need a myth collection, i.e. tall tales of mythtv |
| [04:54:41] | kormoc: | defaultro, keep the channel legal... |
| [04:54:47] | defaultro: | sorry budy |
| [04:54:54] | defaultro: | let's erase that |
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| [04:55:24] | ** sandeen_ will think up a better explanation for sparse files tomorrow ** | |
| [04:55:26] | sandeen_: | g'night guys |
| [04:55:39] | defaultro: | my friends jaw dropped when they saw American Idol on my mythtv last Sunday |
| [04:56:11] | Milosch: | like the guy with 8 cards recording 5 streams and playing back 3 on a PIII with 384M RAM... and playing Quake CTF |
| [04:56:20] | defaultro: | i wish we can make the cablecard work on linux :( |
| [04:56:38] | defaultro: | that's a machine |
| [04:56:48] | daMaestro: | american idol.. what a waste of HDD space |
| [04:56:51] | defaultro: | lol |
| [04:56:56] | defaultro: | my kids love it |
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| [04:57:05] | defaultro: | but i do record 24 and heroes |
| [04:57:08] | defaultro: | do you like heroes? |
| [04:57:09] | t0ny-p40: | Feb 27 21:02:33 bluethunder kernel: swap_free: Bad swap file entry 40101010 |
| [04:57:13] | Milosch: | every once in awhile there is someone who can actually sing |
| [04:57:14] | t0ny-p40: | would that crash my system? |
| [04:57:17] | DIrEctQL: | hey, is there any way to make mythtv use the firewire STB to record HD channels only? |
| [04:57:21] | defaultro: | Blake is good |
| [04:57:24] | defaultro: | and Lakisha |
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| [04:57:42] | defaultro: | DirecQL, I use firewire for recording hd locals |
| [04:57:48] | DIrEctQL: | yeah |
| [04:58:10] | DIrEctQL: | i just noticed that there is no mpeg stream on non-hd channels |
| [04:58:13] | DIrEctQL: | so i get nothing |
| [04:58:27] | defaultro: | i have never tried it |
| [04:58:36] | defaultro: | there should be |
| [04:58:57] | DIrEctQL: | seems like xmltv indicateds shows in HD |
| [04:59:52] | daMaestro: | there is only one way to play quake |
| [04:59:53] | daMaestro: | http://www.plastk.net/highres/24mon/ |
| [04:59:54] | ** sandeen_ needs a cron job to kill live tv at 1am so the drives will spin down ** | |
| [05:00:54] | daMaestro: | http://www.plastk.net/highres/50mon/ i. want. this. |
| [05:02:19] | sandeen_: | friend of mine worked on that |
| [05:03:16] | acr: | daMaestro: holy... that's incredible |
| [05:03:31] | daMaestro: | sandeen_, neat |
| [05:03:46] | daMaestro: | acr, it would be awesome.. :-)) |
| [05:03:54] | sandeen_: | it's bigger than the pics on the umn page seem to show |
| [05:04:06] | sandeen_: | that was '94 |
| [05:04:07] | sandeen_: | bigger now :) |
| [05:04:18] | defaultro: | dameastro, what do those screen do? |
| [05:04:24] | daMaestro: | defaultro, which ones? |
| [05:04:31] | daMaestro: | defaultro, the easy answer.. whatever you want! |
| [05:04:31] | daMaestro: | lol |
| [05:04:39] | daMaestro: | defaultro, it is powered by a linux cluster |
| [05:04:44] | defaultro: | ok |
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| [05:05:57] | daMaestro: | http://top500.org/site/2024 when you have this.. you can build cool things for fun |
| [05:05:57] | daMaestro: | lol |
| [05:06:10] | sandeen_: | who needs a cluster, just get a bunch of usb video cards and a big hub right |
| [05:06:19] | ** daMaestro installs mythtv on systemX ** | |
| [05:06:20] | kormoc: | t0ny-p40, cause it's not panicing? |
| [05:06:53] | t0ny-p40: | here are the last messages |
| [05:06:54] | t0ny-p40: | Feb 27 21:59:34 bluethunder kernel: bttv0: timeout: drop=0 irq=289/55126, risc=1f05201c, bits: HSYNC OFLOW |
| [05:06:54] | t0ny-p40: | Feb 27 21:59:34 bluethunder kernel: bttv0: reset, reinitialize |
| [05:07:08] | sandeen_: | yup. not panicing. |
| [05:07:13] | t0ny-p40: | crap |
| [05:07:18] | t0ny-p40: | Any ideas? |
| [05:07:28] | sandeen_: | capslock work? |
| [05:07:35] | t0ny-p40: | its not frozen now |
| [05:07:43] | t0ny-p40: | But it freezes almost daily |
| [05:08:02] | sandeen_: | sysrq-T will trace processes, if you're a kernel guy you can see if something is deadlocked |
| [05:08:19] | sandeen_: | otherwise, put it on a timer to cycle power every hour or so? :D |
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| [05:08:38] | kormoc: | sandeen_, given he doesn't know what a panic is or is not, I think it's safe to say he's not a kernel guy |
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| [05:08:49] | sandeen_: | kormoc, well I did say if :) |
| [05:09:11] | sandeen_: | it'd be info to gather though to post to his $DISTRIBUTION_HELP_LIST, maybe |
| [05:09:18] | t0ny-p40: | I'm thinking about wiring a relay to the reset button and have my server check to see if its up and if its not trigger that relay |
| [05:09:21] | ** sandeen_ follows through on the threat to go to bed ** | |
| [05:10:50] | ** Dr_willis gets a dippy-bird and sets it up to hit the "y" key.... ** | |
| [05:11:07] | t0ny-p40: | lol |
| [05:11:48] | Dr_willis: | y y y y y |
| [05:11:53] | Dr_willis: | :) |
| [05:11:56] | t0ny-p40: | tttttt |
| [05:11:57] | t0ny-p40: | damn |
| [05:11:58] | t0ny-p40: | lol |
| [05:12:11] | Dr_willis: | ive seen those birds for pc monitors.. they dip from the heat of the monitor. |
| [05:12:17] | Dr_willis: | Dont think they work for lcd's however. :) |
| [05:12:29] | Dr_willis: | Hmm.. the top of my lcd is a little warm |
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| [05:13:30] | spacepod: | hullo all |
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| [05:13:39] | t0ny-p40: | hullo |
| [05:13:47] | spacepod: | anyone here have any advice on building a lowend myth box |
| [05:13:55] | acr: | does anybody have any advice on using a hauppage wintv-pvr-500 card for a mythtv system? |
| [05:13:57] | spacepod: | dell optiplex gx150? |
| [05:14:12] | Dr_willis: | I got a pvr-150 – works nicely, |
| [05:14:12] | t0ny-p40: | get a mpeg encoder card |
| [05:14:30] | t0ny-p40: | trust me software cards suck :) |
| [05:14:49] | Dr_willis: | I thought the 500 had hardware encoder... |
| [05:14:55] | acr: | are there any quirks i should know about for it? Special setup or anything? |
| [05:15:01] | Dr_willis: | thought it had dual tuners also.. |
| [05:15:06] | Dr_willis: | or was the the 300? |
| [05:15:27] | acr: | the 500 has dual tuners |
| [05:15:28] | spacepod: | the 300 has the encoder and decoder rite? |
| [05:15:31] | acr: | it's two 150's put together |
| [05:15:43] | Dr_willis: | 500 --> duual high quality MPEG2 video and audio encoders based on the Conexant -416 MPEG encoder |
| [05:15:51] | Dr_willis: | so says the hauppage home page |
| [05:15:52] | Dr_willis: | :) |
| [05:16:08] | acr: | that's good, right? |
| [05:16:43] | acr: | OK |
| [05:16:47] | Dr_willis: | a bit more $$ then i wanted to spend.. :) so i got the 150. |
| [05:17:12] | acr: | I have problems with people wanting to see multiple shows at the same time |
| [05:17:15] | acr: | it's worth it for me |
| [05:17:35] | acr: | and, I know this is a long shot, but do you think that I could use a wireless connection from the frontend to the backend? Or is that too much to ask? |
| [05:17:40] | Dr_willis: | i imagine one like the WinTV-GO-Plus – is proberly best avoided |
| [05:17:44] | spacepod: | so any advice on a lowend myth box build? |
| [05:17:57] | Dr_willis: | spacepod, what sort of advice are you hopping for? |
| [05:18:07] | Dr_willis: | a minimal pc can be a mythtv box. |
| [05:18:25] | Dr_willis: | lots of hd space is good however. :) and more ram/cpu is always good... |
| [05:18:49] | spacepod: | wanting to build a myth box but trying to stay under $250 |
| [05:19:07] | spacepod: | intention was to use it as both the backend/frontend |
| [05:19:15] | t0ny-p40: | a good tuner card is going to cost you about $100 or more |
| [05:19:19] | Dr_willis: | Ive seen Frys Electronics with a $100 Linux box.. but it had 40gb hd.. and a tv tuner card would cost ya another $100 |
| [05:19:27] | Dr_willis: | so ...... $250 is VERY VERY low end... |
| [05:19:30] | spacepod: | was thinking an older lowprofile desktop |
| [05:19:37] | Dr_willis: | older/used is always good. :) |
| [05:19:37] | t0ny-p40: | it is? |
| [05:19:41] | spacepod: | well i already have the pvr 150 |
| [05:19:42] | kormoc: | t0ny-p40, yes |
| [05:19:48] | t0ny-p40: | really? |
| [05:19:49] | t0ny-p40: | lol |
| [05:19:50] | Dr_willis: | I got a 150 for $80 – 50 in rebates... |
| [05:19:52] | Dr_willis: | with remote |
| [05:20:09] | t0ny-p40: | Too bad I dont have $60 |
| [05:20:18] | Dr_willis: | spacepod, find the biggest hd.. and most cpu ya can :) i guess for the price. |
| [05:20:47] | Dr_willis: | what would ya say is the minimal for good experience? 1ghz? 1.5 ghz? |
| [05:20:55] | spacepod: | would say a 1ghz cpu, 512mb or ram, 160g hard drive work? |
| [05:20:58] | Dr_willis: | My 2ghz box seems to work fine.. |
| [05:21:06] | Dr_willis: | spacepod, should... |
| [05:21:24] | spacepod: | would that be taxing the system to much.. did'nt plan on recording or playing back hd .. just standard def |
| [05:22:13] | Dr_willis: | my : AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2400+ works great. |
| [05:22:18] | Dr_willis: | 1ghz should work. |
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| [05:22:28] | Dr_willis: | but of courese more is always better |
| [05:22:45] | Dr_willis: | i think my 1.7 ghz amd worked ok also.. but the kids took it. :) |
| [05:22:45] | spacepod: | also i been reading up on myth and installed knoppmyth on a testbox.. is there any type of web browser support? |
| [05:23:11] | Dr_willis: | theres a mythweb web interface to mythtv.. and there was some webbrowser feature of mythtv (never used it however) |
| [05:23:15] | spacepod: | or plugin rather |
| [05:23:23] | Dr_willis: | ya can always just go to the desktop and use a real browser. :) heh. |
| [05:23:25] | spacepod: | i see |
| [05:23:42] | spacepod: | indeed |
| [05:23:59] | spacepod: | thx for the advice |
| [05:25:09] | acr: | I know this is a long shot, but do you think I could use a wireless connection to connect my backend to my frontend? |
| [05:25:29] | spacepod: | i've read where its not suggested |
| [05:25:32] | spacepod: | but possible |
| [05:26:00] | Dr_willis: | depends on how good/fast the cards are. |
| [05:26:00] | acr: | my server isn't really close to any tv's |
| [05:26:12] | Dr_willis: | and given the hassles to get wireless going unbder linux — ick. :) |
| [05:26:16] | Dr_willis: | id run wires. |
| [05:26:17] | acr: | right |
| [05:26:23] | acr: | well, I have wireless working, but that's a lot of wire |
| [05:26:31] | spacepod: | lol |
| [05:26:32] | acr: | maybe I'll try it wireless, then switch to wire once I know it's necessary |
| [05:26:38] | spacepod: | pulling cable blows too |
| [05:26:39] | acr: | I'd have to connect my frontend to my router? |
| [05:26:52] | acr: | if I want my server to still have an internet connection? |
| [05:26:55] | spacepod: | they do have those ac adapter to lan jacks |
| [05:27:00] | acr: | and then do port forwarding, I guess |
| [05:27:02] | Dr_willis: | spacepod, thats what 'heating ducts' are for..... :) |
| [05:27:10] | spacepod: | suppose to do atleast 10mb sc |
| [05:27:24] | Dr_willis: | ive heard bad things about those ac-adaptor-lan things |
| [05:27:25] | acr: | hmm... I'm not willing to start playing with the electrical system here... |
| [05:27:49] | Dr_willis: | acr, not a lot to them.. they use the electrial wireing like those intercoms and x10 things do. |
| [05:27:57] | Dr_willis: | badly – i hear. :) |
| [05:28:09] | acr: | if I wanted to run wire I'd have to connect my frontend to my router and forward whatever port it is to the backend? |
| [05:28:09] | Dr_willis: | id stick to wireless befor using those heh heh |
| [05:28:15] | acr: | Dr_willis: I don't think that's the solution for me :-) |
| [05:28:16] | acr: | haha |
| [05:28:17] | Dr_willis: | port? |
| [05:28:27] | Dr_willis: | plug the box's all into the router.. and let them be on the same lan. |
| [05:28:30] | Dr_willis: | there ya go. |
| [05:28:35] | acr: | that's all it would take? |
| [05:28:44] | acr: | they'd all recognize each other and know where to go? |
| [05:28:49] | Dr_willis: | if they are on the same lan.. what port are ya forwarding where? |
| [05:29:21] | Dr_willis: | My mythttv box is going to my router.. the other pc's are going to the router.. i see the mythtv box fine. |
| [05:29:25] | acr: | the frontend to the backend? No? |
| [05:29:26] | Dr_willis: | i use it as a samba server also. :) |
| [05:29:33] | acr: | wow, sounds like I have my wires crossed |
| [05:29:35] | Dr_willis: | you tell the front end the ip of the backend... |
| [05:29:41] | acr: | Dr_willis: that's _exactly_ what I want to do |
| [05:29:43] | Dr_willis: | is all ya need to do i think |
| [05:29:58] | acr: | OK, so would I have to set up static ip's (locally) for the frontend and backend? |
| [05:30:02] | Dr_willis: | you may have to tell the backend to use its ip. not 127.0.0.1 as its ip also. |
| [05:30:03] | spacepod: | should'nt have to forward ports inside your local network |
| [05:30:11] | Dr_willis: | static ips are best. yes.. |
| [05:30:20] | acr: | how would I set those up? |
| [05:30:21] | Dr_willis: | byt my router/dhcp rembers and sets them the same when it can. |
| [05:30:35] | Dr_willis: | configure the machines to use static ip. :) with the network config tools |
| [05:30:56] | ** hjohnson starts moving his partition over to XFS ** | |
| [05:31:05] | spacepod: | the myth backend should have a static ip fo sure |
| [05:31:05] | t0ny-p40: | Dr_willis, my router had static dhcp :) |
| [05:31:06] | Dr_willis: | i also edit the /etc/hosts for the box's and set the name/ips in there. |
| [05:31:28] | Dr_willis: | t0ny-p40, mine is 'sort of static' :) some times a new machine will take a old box's ip. |
| [05:31:29] | Dr_willis: | heh |
| [05:31:40] | spacepod: | make sure to reserve that ip in your router for that machines hostname |
| [05:31:53] | acr: | interesting... |
| [05:31:57] | t0ny-p40: | My router I tell it what ip I want for what mac address :) |
| [05:31:58] | acr: | I'll have to investigate that more |
| [05:32:08] | Dr_willis: | t0ny-p40, that would be handy |
| [05:32:22] | t0ny-p40: | look up dd-wrt |
| [05:32:29] | spacepod: | anyone running an xbox as a frontend? |
| [05:32:31] | Dr_willis: | next will be routers with built in torrent servers and hard drives.. :) |
| [05:32:44] | Dr_willis: | well night all. |
| [05:32:50] | acr: | hmm... I'm in my router settings now |
| [05:32:52] | spacepod: | adios dr willis |
| [05:32:58] | acr: | there's a section called 'static routes' |
| [05:33:07] | spacepod: | look under dhcp |
| [05:33:15] | spacepod: | what router do you have |
| [05:33:30] | acr: | netgear wgr614v6 |
| [05:33:51] | spacepod: | look under dhcp for "reserve ip" or something of that nature |
| [05:34:17] | acr: | address reservation |
| [05:34:36] | acr: | wow, it's just like somebody said earlier |
| [05:34:53] | acr: | specify a mac address, ip address and device name |
| [05:34:57] | acr: | what is the device name for? |
| [05:35:25] | acr: | and why don't any of my linux computers have them in the list of attached devices...? |
| [05:35:52] | spacepod: | the name of your machine? |
| [05:36:04] | spacepod: | should say the the column to the right i belive |
| [05:36:09] | acr: | just give it an arbitrary name? |
| [05:36:27] | acr: | I guess my question is whether or not the device name has meaning or is just arbitrary? |
| [05:36:34] | spacepod: | whatever hostname you provided on install |
| [05:36:40] | acr: | ah, I see |
| [05:36:45] | acr: | as a backup for the mac address? |
| [05:36:45] | spacepod: | think default on knoppmyth is mythtv |
| [05:36:57] | spacepod: | are you in linux now? |
| [05:37:04] | acr: | I'm not going to mess with the operating systems already on my server and frontend, ubuntu |
| [05:37:11] | acr: | yes, I'm in linux |
| [05:37:35] | acr: | but I haven't gotten my tv-tuner card yet. I'm going to do it by this weekend; I'm trying to make this as painless as possible |
| [05:37:38] | spacepod: | aight open aterm and do an ifconfig |
| [05:38:04] | spacepod: | should give you the mac address |
| [05:38:18] | spacepod: | for eth0 or something like that |
| [05:39:21] | spacepod: | yea i just went the pvr 150 route seems like mythtv was kind of built around that card |
| [05:42:49] | spacepod: | nite |
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| [05:51:10] | t0ny-p40: | Is it possible to use a webcam with a max res of 320x240 as something like composite? I dont want to record from it but it would be nice to be able to watch it in live tv mode. |
| [05:51:42] | RyeBrye: | When you say "webcam" do you mean "showercam" ;) |
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| [05:54:04] | t0ny-p40: | lol |
| [05:54:05] | t0ny-p40: | no |
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| [06:02:27] | t0ny-p40: | well, I got it setup as a fake channel 1 and it goes to live tv and just kicks right back into the menu |
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| [06:31:40] | cesman: | t0ny-p40: yes, it is possible |
| [06:32:04] | t0ny-p40: | I cant get it to work, just freezes mythfrontend when I try to view it. |
| [06:32:28] | cesman: | I did this a few weeks ago |
| [06:32:30] | t0ny-p40: | does mythfrontend like 320x240 video? |
| [06:32:37] | cesman: | worked w/o issue |
| [06:32:54] | t0ny-p40: | with 320x240 video? |
| [06:33:08] | cesman: | I believe so |
| [06:33:15] | cesman: | check the logs |
| [06:34:01] | kormoc: | why would the resolution matter? |
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| [06:38:16] | t0ny-p40: | Nothing in the logs |
| [06:38:22] | t0ny-p40: | and just blinks then goes to the main menu |
| [06:40:38] | cesman: | so, you told it to use channel 1? |
| [06:40:57] | cesman: | I don't think I had it start on a channel |
| [06:40:57] | t0ny-p40: | yes |
| [06:41:05] | cesman: | sorry, I cannot recall |
| [06:41:16] | cesman: | 13 hrs at work today... |
| [06:41:37] | t0ny-p40: | I need a job :/ |
| [06:41:52] | cesman: | sorry to hear that... |
| [06:41:55] | t0ny-p40: | lol |
| [06:42:04] | cesman: | what is funny? |
| [06:42:29] | t0ny-p40: | Monkeys |
| [06:43:45] | cesman: | monkeys aren't funny |
| [06:43:56] | cesman: | now, lemurs.... |
| [06:44:00] | t0ny-p40: | When they have guns they are |
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| [06:47:15] | t0ny-p40: | cesman, this is what happens when I dont set a source 2007-02–27 23:47:43.973 ChannelBase(2) Error: InitializeInputs(): |
| [06:47:15] | t0ny-p40: | Could not get inputs for the capturecard. |
| [06:47:15] | t0ny-p40: | Perhaps you have forgotten to bind video |
| [06:47:15] | t0ny-p40: | sources to your card's inputs? |
| [06:47:51] | cesman: | so, have you? |
| [06:48:13] | cesman: | and please use pastebin... |
| [06:48:43] | t0ny-p40: | I did |
| [06:48:44] | cesman: | are you using v4l? |
| [06:48:51] | t0ny-p40: | yes |
| [06:50:00] | cesman: | hmmmm |
| [06:50:10] | cesman: | sorry I cannot be of more help |
| [06:50:31] | cesman: | my mind is fuzzy at the moment |
| [06:50:57] | justdave: | is there some special trick to getting mythvideo to work from a frontend that isn't on the same machine with the backend? |
| [06:51:11] | cesman: | mythvideo works fine |
| [06:51:16] | justdave: | if I touch it from a different frontend it seems to screw up the indexing on mine |
| [06:51:34] | justdave: | claims it can't find any of the videos |
| [06:51:44] | cesman: | cannot say I've had any issues |
| [06:51:49] | cesman: | ahhh |
| [06:52:12] | cesman: | you have to have the filesystem mounted |
| [06:52:15] | justdave: | tv works fine, as do "recordings" so I know it's talking to the backend ok :) |
| [06:52:33] | justdave: | oh, so it's looking on the local machine instead of streaming it... |
| [06:53:01] | cesman: | that is because MythTV uses it protocol to stream "recordings" |
| [06:53:18] | t0ny-p40: | 2007-02–27 23:53:52.390 TV Error: LiveTV not successfully started |
| [06:53:26] | t0ny-p40: | well thats useful :/ |
| [06:53:39] | cesman: | justdave: that link was for you |
| [06:54:11] | t0ny-p40: | ahh 2007-02–27 23:53:52.369 MythSocket(8504ed0:15): connect() failed (ConnectionRefused) |
| [06:54:30] | justdave: | cesman: thanks |
| [06:54:36] | cesman: | you're welcome |
| [06:55:15] | t0ny-p40: | so why would it refuse the connection? |
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| [06:56:34] | justdave: | t0ny-p40: got the IP address set correctly? defaults are 127.0.0.1 |
| [06:56:42] | justdave: | the server has to be told to listen on the real IP, too |
| [06:56:57] | justdave: | if the server is still set to 127.0.0.1, the slaves won't be able to connect |
| [06:57:22] | justdave: | of course, if you're on the same machine with the backend, then my comment is void |
| [06:57:33] | t0ny-p40: | different boxes |
| [06:57:39] | t0ny-p40: | thanks I never thought of that |
| [06:57:49] | justdave: | ok, that's what I'd check then, make sure the server is set to listen on the real IP |
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| [07:05:06] | justdave: | wrong password? |
| [07:05:21] | justdave: | hmm, no, it'd tell you authentication failed if that were the case |
| [07:05:23] | t0ny-p40: | I dont think so |
| [07:05:26] | kormoc: | he needs to read the docs and run the commands to allow remote frontends |
| [07:05:39] | justdave: | it you made it to an access denied with a database name then you logged in and your user doesn't have access to that database |
| [07:06:22] | t0ny-p40: | Same password as my laptop which works fine with the backend |
| [07:06:39] | justdave: | database permissions might not be set up right |
| [07:07:10] | justdave: | log into mysql on the backend server and type: show grants for mythtv@'%'; |
| [07:07:29] | justdave: | (log into mysql as root) |
| [07:07:52] | t0ny-p40: | GRANT SELECT, INSERT, UPDATE, DELETE, CREATE, DROP, FILE, INDEX, ALTER, CREATE TEMPORARY TABLES, EXECUTE, CREATE VIEW, SHOW VIEW, CREATE ROUTINE, ALTER ROUTINE ON *.* TO 'mythtv'@'%' IDENTIFIED BY PASSWORD '1bc7f38c2c0bead2' |
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| [07:08:27] | justdave: | wow, that's more access than it needs probably. |
| [07:08:31] | justdave: | (*.*) |
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| [07:08:45] | t0ny-p40: | well the mysql is on the local network only |
| [07:09:10] | justdave: | is the client talking to the server and not the local database on the frontend machine? |
| [07:09:29] | justdave: | well, that grant list is giving it almost full access to any database on the server. |
| [07:09:43] | justdave: | if mythtv is the only thing there, that's probably no big deal. |
| [07:09:47] | t0ny-p40: | right host |
| [07:09:57] | justdave: | normally I would have restricted the mythtv user to accessing mythconverg.* |
| [07:10:01] | t0ny-p40: | mythtv is the onlything on that server |
| [07:10:26] | t0ny-p40: | I'm not worried |
| [07:11:02] | justdave: | ok, so getting my videos working... The videos are actually stored on a third server which isn't the backend machine. The backend has it nfs mounted. |
| [07:11:18] | justdave: | so on my frontend, I nfs-mounted it at the same path it's at on the backend machine |
| [07:11:26] | justdave: | now everything shows up correctly in the index |
| [07:11:33] | justdave: | but it won't play them? |
| [07:11:48] | justdave: | just blinks "Loading..." briefly then goes back to the description page |
| [07:12:05] | t0ny-p40: | well its running other sql stuff just fine |
| [07:12:21] | justdave: | t0ny-p40: another idea. firewall? |
| [07:12:35] | justdave: | see if the backend server has a firewall running. |
| [07:12:36] | t0ny-p40: | Not in my local network |
| [07:12:40] | justdave: | iptables -L |
| [07:13:01] | justdave: | if you get more than table headers (entries in the table) then you do |
| [07:13:13] | t0ny-p40: | oh 2007-02–28 00:13:59.765 MSqlQuery: LOCK TABLES recorded WRITE |
| [07:13:39] | t0ny-p40: | how do I grant it to be able to lock? |
| [07:14:09] | justdave: | ah, yeah, it doesn't have that. interesting. |
| [07:14:31] | justdave: | GRANT LOCK TABLES ON *.* TO mythtv@'%'; |
| [07:14:35] | justdave: | FLUSH PRIVILEGES; |
| [07:16:24] | t0ny-p40: | well... It segfaults but not sql error! :) |
| [07:16:54] | t0ny-p40: | segfault its backend and the frontend |
| [07:18:01] | t0ny-p40: | here is the error now |
| [07:18:01] | t0ny-p40: | VIDIOCMCAPTUREi0: Invalid argument |
| [07:18:02] | t0ny-p40: | VIDIOCMCAPTUREi1: Invalid argument |
| [07:18:35] | justdave: | that one's beyond my expertise |
| [07:18:59] | t0ny-p40: | I wonder if mythtv likes 320x240... |
| [07:21:02] | justdave: | is there a way to put images on the folders in gallery view? |
| [07:21:22] | justdave: | (thumbnails) |
| [07:21:40] | t0ny-p40: | hit m and look at the menu |
| [07:21:44] | t0ny-p40: | I think there is |
| [07:21:47] | t0ny-p40: | its been a while |
| [07:22:09] | justdave: | only choices on that menu are "Filter Display", "Switch to Browse", "Switch to List", and "Cancel" |
| [07:23:02] | justdave: | that's when browsing the videos... |
| [07:23:17] | justdave: | if I go into video manager, it doesn't even sort them by folders, just lists all the videos |
| [07:23:35] | t0ny-p40: | Not sure |
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| [07:29:24] | justdave: | oh, you know what... the client is playing the videos locally isn't it... |
| [07:29:38] | justdave: | and it probably shells out to mplayer |
| [07:29:42] | justdave: | which isn't installed on the client :) |
| [07:33:00] | daMaestro: | i set DefaultTranscoder = 1 if i want to (by default) have transcode run? |
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| [07:38:07] | daMaestro: | is there any way to set "Show pixmaps" off by default? |
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| [07:39:16] | Midkniht: | hello all |
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| [07:39:49] | Midkniht: | im having a problem getting audio playback on mythtv |
| [07:40:06] | justdave: | yup, installing mplayer got it working. |
| [07:40:11] | Midkniht: | i have audio working in all other applications as well as tvtime |
| [07:40:30] | justdave: | had to tweak the default command line for mplayer though, the OS X version of mplayer doesn't like -vo xv :) |
| [07:41:07] | Midkniht: | i already have mplayer |
| [07:41:26] | Midkniht: | i cant watch live tv or recorded tv from myth with audio |
| [07:42:04] | justdave: | Midkniht: I was just sharing the resolution for the problem I was having before you came in |
| [07:42:30] | Midkniht: | ohhh |
| [07:42:32] | Midkniht: | heh |
| [07:42:33] | justdave: | what distro are you running it on? |
| [07:42:49] | Midkniht: | ubuntu breezy with a tv wonder card |
| [07:43:14] | justdave: | look in your graphics and sound menu and see if alsamixer is in there |
| [07:44:18] | justdave: | had that problem on mine, there was an IEC958 Output (or something like that, forget the exact letters an numbers) which needed to be unmuted |
| [07:45:09] | Midkniht: | no alsamixer in there but its installed |
| [07:45:23] | Midkniht: | i been fiddling with the mixer for 3 days now |
| [07:45:37] | Midkniht: | muting unmuting, turning volume up etc |
| [07:46:28] | Midkniht: | im going nuts |
| [07:46:42] | Midkniht: | i remember having this problem on debian before changing to ubuntu |
| [07:46:51] | Midkniht: | i just dont remeber the solution |
| [07:47:21] | Midkniht: | ive read so much google listings i feel like i know about everything else myth related |
| [07:48:35] | ** Midkniht sighs ** | |
| [07:48:53] | Midkniht: | i got every single thing working correctly on this box but the audio on the tv |
| [07:49:45] | Midkniht: | hmm |
| [07:50:05] | t0ny-p40: | well this cant be right... Does a 400Watt power supply use 400 watts per hour? |
| [07:50:15] | Midkniht: | hmm |
| [07:50:16] | Midkniht: | no |
| [07:50:29] | t0ny-p40: | ok then my math is wrong. |
| [07:50:46] | Midkniht: | 400 is the output |
| [07:50:55] | Midkniht: | input is not going to be that much |
| [07:51:06] | t0ny-p40: | I thought for a second my mythtv box was costing $312 a year |
| [07:51:12] | Midkniht: | heh |
| [07:51:27] | t0ny-p40: | How much do you think it might be using? |
| [07:51:33] | Midkniht: | probably costing around the same as a incadescent bulb burning all year |
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| [07:52:14] | t0ny-p40: | How much is that? |
| [07:52:27] | t0ny-p40: | the Wh |
| [07:52:27] | Midkniht: | basically switch all your bulbs to floruo bulbs and say your myth box is free |
| [07:52:28] | Midkniht: | heh |
| [07:52:41] | Midkniht: | well lets see |
| [07:52:59] | Midkniht: | whats the cost per kWh in your area? |
| [07:53:09] | t0ny-p40: | I think $0.10 |
| [07:53:15] | t0ny-p40: | Just a guess |
| [07:55:39] | Midkniht: | so a little over 100$ at 90watts |
| [07:55:57] | t0ny-p40: | A year? |
| [07:56:12] | Midkniht: | i would say so |
| [07:56:32] | Midkniht: | but it depends on what the power supply is drawing |
| [07:56:41] | t0ny-p40: | still beats tivo |
| [07:56:41] | t0ny-p40: | 9*12 = 108! |
| [07:56:42] | t0ny-p40: | lol |
| [07:56:43] | t0ny-p40: | thats the old price too |
| [07:57:12] | Midkniht: | cost the same for tivo power too |
| [07:57:29] | t0ny-p40: | Well I think the tivo uses a lot less power |
| [07:57:34] | Midkniht: | why |
| [07:57:43] | Midkniht: | i would think it used the same |
| [07:58:17] | t0ny-p40: | the cpu uses a lot less power then a athlon xp |
| [07:58:27] | Midkniht: | i did alot of power tests on my home last year because i thought i was speding too much on computer power |
| [07:58:49] | t0ny-p40: | I dont really care just wondering |
| [07:58:53] | Midkniht: | found out regular bulbs and consumer electronics (tivo, dvd, etc) used the most |
| [07:59:30] | Midkniht: | computers only run as much as they need |
| [07:59:39] | xris: | Midkniht: hard drives are the killer. :) |
| [07:59:46] | Midkniht: | whereas consumer products are made to run all the time |
| [07:59:53] | Midkniht: | hardrives are in tivos too |
| [08:00:10] | xris: | like I said. |
| [08:00:17] | ** Midkniht nods ** | |
| [08:00:20] | Midkniht: | ok |
| [08:00:26] | xris: | but that's when your power usage starts to add up... |
| [08:00:31] | xris: | well, and incandescent bulbs. |
| [08:00:37] | t0ny-p40: | Mythtv is soo much better then tivo |
| [08:00:39] | xris: | should get rid of those as fast as you can. |
| [08:01:03] | Midkniht: | incadescents removed from my house at a savings of 75$ per month |
| [08:01:15] | Midkniht: | that was nice |
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| [08:01:28] | t0ny-p40: | we have a electric ac/heater so we have a huge bill anyways |
| [08:01:30] | ** Midkniht has a bad habit of leaving things on ** | |
| [08:01:50] | Midkniht: | i broke my myth more |
| [08:01:52] | Midkniht: | hmmm |
| [08:02:00] | Midkniht: | not frontend wont start either |
| [08:02:04] | Midkniht: | now even |
| [08:03:00] | Midkniht: | myth worked perfect on my debian drive |
| [08:03:10] | Midkniht: | too bad that it had bad sectors |
| [08:03:23] | ** Midkniht must make ubuntu work! ** | |
| [08:03:40] | t0ny-p40: | can you throttle a athlon xp cpu? |
| [08:04:02] | Midkniht: | yeah theres some kernel modules for controlling it |
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| [08:04:49] | t0ny-p40: | wow my wifi is sucking right now... |
| [08:04:57] | Midkniht: | can i post url' |
| [08:04:59] | t0ny-p40: | and I'm 10 feet away from the ap |
| [08:05:05] | Midkniht: | will it kick me for it |
| [08:05:18] | t0ny-p40: | I dont think so |
| [08:05:24] | Midkniht: | http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy |
| [08:05:39] | Midkniht: | i read about the modules that control cpu's in that doc |
| [08:07:14] | t0ny-p40: | [root@bluethunder CPU0]# cat thro* |
| [08:07:15] | t0ny-p40: | <not supported> |
| [08:07:15] | t0ny-p40: | :( |
| [08:07:46] | t0ny-p40: | Holy cow, its taking 1–2 seconds for my typing to display over ssh on my localnetwork! |
| [08:08:01] | Midkniht: | been hacked? |
| [08:08:11] | t0ny-p40: | No its my wifi |
| [08:08:15] | Midkniht: | or bittorrent eatin your bandwdth |
| [08:08:15] | Midkniht: | heh |
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| [08:08:27] | t0ny-p40: | there I reset my wifi its working better now |
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| [08:08:35] | t0ny-p40: | hehe and now dropped connections :P |
| [08:09:00] | Midkniht: | how did i break myth further |
| [08:09:04] | Midkniht: | hmm |
| [08:09:22] | t0ny-p40: | 5% signal |
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| [08:09:47] | Midkniht: | hmm |
| [08:09:58] | Midkniht: | i ran out of space duh |
| [08:10:12] | Midkniht: | crap load of recordings that are useless will do that |
| [08:10:35] | Midkniht: | is there a way to delete all content from commandline |
| [08:10:50] | Midkniht: | so it updated the database correctly |
| [08:11:58] | t0ny-p40: | There I switched to ethernet |
| [08:13:10] | Midkniht: | heh |
| [08:14:34] | Midkniht: | cant win for losing |
| [08:15:56] | Midkniht: | ok fixed the drive space issue |
| [08:16:00] | Midkniht: | now back to sound |
| [08:16:44] | Midkniht: | oh great gods of the myth boxen, turn your ears on me and hear my plea |
| [08:16:51] | Midkniht: | I NEED some audio |
| [08:17:40] | Midkniht: | WTF |
| [08:17:57] | Midkniht: | i got a single file that is 5.7 gigs |
| [08:18:03] | Midkniht: | something is wrong with that |
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| [08:18:36] | Midkniht: | how can i delete the myth content without screwing up the database from the commandline? |
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| [08:20:02] | Midkniht: | so i obviously have a new problem with the wrong transcoding or something |
| [08:20:14] | Midkniht: | 30 minute tv shows should never be that big |
| [08:22:37] | onewheelskyward: | Midkniht: You can't. You need to delete it from the myth interface, or run the appropriate sql to remove the recording data from the DB. |
| [08:24:14] | t0ny-p40: | Midkniht, I get about 1gb per hour |
| [08:26:03] | onewheelskyward: | I get 1.1 gigs per half hour, here. Straight mpeg-2 encoding. |
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| [08:38:29] | Midkniht: | 1 gb per hhour is too much |
| [08:38:52] | Midkniht: | i can see if its hd or something |
| [08:38:58] | Midkniht: | but im recording analog |
| [08:42:48] | Midkniht: | ok |
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| [08:43:23] | Midkniht: | should the audio device listed in the capture card setup be the playback device or the record device? |
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| [08:46:26] | Midkniht: | anyoen here still? |
| [08:50:16] | maniacxs: | Midkniht: I am not a analog user, but your audio question should be covered in docs |
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| [08:55:33] | Midkniht: | yeah you would think that wouldnt you |
| [08:55:49] | Midkniht: | ive only been looking for a week before coming here |
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| [08:56:31] | Midkniht: | i did find some new info on loading a btaudio module but i used to be able to record through the linein on my existing sound card |
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| [08:57:45] | maniacxs: | Midkniht: if i am informed correclty, btaudio is used to not use a extra cable |
| [08:58:48] | t0ny-p40: | In the photos how do I get out of a folder? |
| [08:59:01] | maniacxs: | t0ny-p40: try "ESC" |
| [08:59:09] | t0ny-p40: | back into the parent folder |
| [08:59:15] | Midkniht: | maniacxs> yep i never used it before |
| [08:59:26] | t0ny-p40: | maniacxs, that just quits the image gallery |
| [09:00:00] | maniacxs: | t0ny-p40: there should be a key for "Leave" |
| [09:00:43] | maniacxs: | t0ny-p40: have you looked in keys.txt ? |
| [09:01:47] | t0ny-p40: | I'm looking in the edit keys thing |
| [09:02:35] | heanol: | would a fanless mini-itx of some kind have enough power to be used as a combined frontend/backend for non-hdtv? |
| [09:04:37] | t0ny-p40: | wtf I just tried a-z and none of them go into the parent folder.. |
| [09:06:27] | Midkniht: | well using the btaudio module i set the capture to /dev/dsp2 (analog) and it sounded like crap |
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| [09:07:15] | Midkniht: | it keeps reseting my volume controls |
| [09:07:16] | t0ny-p40: | try setting the rate to 44000 |
| [09:07:45] | onewheelskyward: | heanol: Yes, especially if you use a hardware Mpeg-2 enabled capture card. |
| [09:08:11] | onewheelskyward: | heanol: Check out the via epia machines for examples. |
| [09:08:16] | t0ny-p40: | omg can mythgallery not go back in folders? |
| [09:09:18] | heanol: | onewheelskyward, is epia sp the only to have mpeg-4 acceleration? |
| [09:09:37] | onewheelskyward: | heanol: I'm not sure, I haven't really done the research. |
| [09:09:41] | rsdvd_: | heanol ; an fanless mini-itx will only work as a backend if you use hauppague PVR cards for capture, as they have hardware encoders |
| [09:10:16] | heanol: | hmm ok, what about as a frontend? |
| [09:11:14] | rsdvd_: | the fanless EPIA boards work perfect as frontends – I use one. If you get one – consider minimyth – a networkbootable distro that means you need no HDD |
| [09:12:57] | Midkniht: | so many ways for myth not to work |
| [09:13:03] | heanol: | rsdvd_, cool :) what about installing extra stuff on that though? for my frontend now i use the wii controller as a remote which uses some special software |
| [09:13:06] | Midkniht: | only 1 to work correctly |
| [09:14:19] | t0ny-p40: | Midkniht, but its worth the pain :) |
| [09:14:31] | rsdvd_: | heanol : it is slight more complex to install further stuff....but not very! The *very* helpful people at linpvr.org will help you. When it network boots it drags down all the software it needs from your server |
| [09:15:16] | heanol: | ah, cool |
| [09:15:37] | rsdvd_: | and also there are dozens of us on here who use it! |
| [09:15:38] | Midkniht: | i had it working for a year and a half and started getting drive errors |
| [09:16:16] | Midkniht: | now i am on a new ubuntu install and i got no sound ain |
| [09:16:21] | rsdvd_: | heanol : for a frontend – the EPIA is very good, becuase it has onboard video out and the unichrome driver handles the acceleration etc |
| [09:16:35] | heanol: | yeah |
| [09:16:42] | heanol: | i just need to figure out what model i want |
| [09:16:43] | heanol: | there's so many |
| [09:16:44] | heanol: | :P |
| [09:17:15] | heanol: | ranging from $140 to $280 :> |
| [09:17:40] | rsdvd_: | I use the M10000 – it was the best when I bought it (1–2 years ago), but now there are more! the M10000 is now quite cheap (although mine does have a fan – which is easily swapped I am told) |
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| [09:19:44] | rsdvd_: | I have heard people say they have gotthe 800 to work – and that is $90.....but I would suggest somethign with more power |
| [09:21:25] | Midkniht: | argh |
| [09:23:23] | Midkniht: | wow |
| [09:23:34] | Midkniht: | theres something fixed since my old version |
| [09:23:58] | Midkniht: | it will now delete the listing in the frontend even if you delete the file on the host |
| [09:24:09] | Midkniht: | used to not delete if the file didnt exist |
| [09:25:18] | Midkniht: | im trying exverything |
| [09:26:36] | Midkniht: | ok |
| [09:26:40] | Midkniht: | this sucks |
| [09:27:07] | Midkniht: | i been trying all this shit and the mythtv-setup hasnt been keeping the changes im making |
| [09:27:27] | Midkniht: | can i set the audio device in a text file somewhere without going through the setup? |
| [09:28:31] | rsdvd_: | myth keeps nearly everything in the mythconverg database – no idea where it keeps the audio settings though |
| [09:29:33] | Midkniht: | hmm |
| [09:29:45] | ** Midkniht loads mysqlcc ** | |
| [09:32:01] | rsdvd_: | try the settings table – it holds the mixer device etc – what you need might be in there |
| [09:32:18] | Midkniht: | aint this a bitch |
| [09:32:30] | Midkniht: | i got sound again but its bad quality again |
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| [09:32:37] | Midkniht: | screetching sounds |
| [09:32:58] | rsdvd_: | sorry I cannot be much help – sound 'just works' (TM) for me |
| [09:33:25] | Midkniht: | probably would for me too but i use LCD hardware |
| [09:37:10] | Midkniht: | im getting different screeches now |
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| [09:37:12] | Midkniht: | hmm |
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| [09:38:02] | heanol: | i wonder why usb dvb-t cards are cheaper than pci |
| [09:39:13] | kumamoto: | when using mythtv frontends does one really have to have a tv or dvb card or that is just for mythtv box itself? |
| [09:39:18] | gardengnome: | i' |
| [09:39:21] | Midkniht: | usb interfaces are manufactured more now? |
| [09:39:22] | rsdvd_: | heanol : cause they are not as good! |
| [09:39:36] | Midkniht: | box itself only |
| [09:39:41] | gardengnome: | heanol: i've heard some pci dvb-t devices are just usb devices with a pci bridge. |
| [09:40:21] | rsdvd_: | kumamoto : a frontend only does not have a capture card – if it does then is it a combines front/back end |
| [09:40:27] | heanol: | rsdvd_, how so? |
| [09:40:43] | heanol: | i have a usb device that works great :) |
| [09:40:49] | heanol: | but i'm considering getting another one |
| [09:41:22] | rsdvd_: | anicdotal evidence – I have been reading problems with the usb Nova-T......it just seems to have more problems than I see with my PCI version |
| [09:41:33] | rsdvd_: | YMMV |
| [09:42:36] | heanol: | how is the wintv nova-t? |
| [09:42:48] | heanol: | the pci one is pretty cheap |
| [09:43:23] | rsdvd_: | I use it here in the UK for freeview – and it is much better auality picture than my PVR-150....although it is rather picky about signal strength |
| [09:44:02] | rsdvd_: | when I re-build the backend – I will be putting another on in there |
| [09:46:15] | heanol: | auality? |
| [09:46:16] | heanol: | quality? |
| [09:46:30] | rsdvd_: | sorry – yes! I am crap at typing :-) |
| [09:46:34] | heanol: | is there both a nova-t and a wintv nova-t? :) |
| [09:46:51] | heanol: | probably the same i guess |
| [09:47:18] | rsdvd_: | I guess so – Hauppague call all there stuff wintv.....I think! |
| [09:47:31] | kumamoto: | rsdvd_: so the capture card is just for the actual mythtv box |
| [09:47:37] | rsdvd_: | the Nova-T PCI is really cheap now – about 20 GBP over here now |
| [09:48:21] | rsdvd_: | kumamoto : the capture cards are used by mythbackend to capture the recived signal......mythfontend just shows what is on the backend |
| [09:48:48] | kumamoto: | so how does it connect to the tv |
| [09:49:00] | heanol: | its about 36 GBP here in sweden |
| [09:49:01] | heanol: | :P |
| [09:49:19] | rsdvd_: | the capture card has nothing to do with connecting to the TV – that is your graphics card |
| [09:49:40] | rsdvd_: | heanol : we get it cheaper :-) |
| [09:49:52] | gardengnome: | rsdvd_: unless it's a pvr 350. ;) |
| [09:50:12] | rsdvd_: | gardengnome : true – but I discount that cause I would never suggest anyone buys a 350 |
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| [09:52:00] | kumamoto: | and what's wrong with a 350 |
| [09:52:38] | rsdvd_: | the TV out is controlled by a driver that is no longer activly developed..... |
| [09:53:03] | kumamoto: | ah |
| [09:53:06] | rsdvd_: | and for the increased cost you are much better buying a PVR-150 and a video card known to work (Nvidia) |
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| [09:54:18] | rsdvd_: | also the TV-out on the 350 only accelerates mpeg-2 – so any other video will be entirly controlled on the CPU |
| [09:54:36] | kumamoto: | so to connect a frontend to a tv instead a pc one needs a capture card |
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| [09:55:13] | rsdvd_: | NO – THE CAPTURE CARD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR TV |
| [09:55:20] | rsdvd_: | to |
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| [09:55:54] | rsdvd_: | to connect a frontend to a tv – use the TV-out on your video/graphics card (Nvidia/Sis etc) |
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| [09:56:13] | kumamoto: | ok |
| [09:57:01] | kumamoto: | so one get a a vga card with tv-out |
| [09:57:03] | rsdvd_: | if you get a small form-factor as a frontend – most have TV-out onboard......perfect for connecting to the TV |
| [09:57:06] | kumamoto: | hmmm |
| [09:57:33] | rsdvd_: | kumamoto : the majority of video cards these days have some sort of tv-out |
| [09:57:46] | Midkniht: | back to square one |
| [09:57:47] | kumamoto: | ah got it capture card is for backend and vga with tv-out is for frontend |
| [09:57:55] | Midkniht: | my sound is completely not working now |
| [09:57:57] | rsdvd_: | yes! |
| [09:58:00] | Midkniht: | be back |
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| [09:58:20] | kumamoto: | svideo is considered some sort of tv-out right? |
| [09:59:04] | rsdvd_: | kumamoto : I suggest you need to read the wiki – to get used to some of the terms |
| [09:59:30] | rsdvd_: | svideo is analog video......that will be fine for connecting to the TV |
| [10:00:19] | rsdvd_: | it will probably be a yellow coax plug......and that goes to your tv along with an audio wire from your audio out |
| [10:00:33] | kumamoto: | i guess before I give u an aneurism |
| [10:02:11] | rsdvd_: | all that said – most people will start with a combined frontend/backend – so it is all in the same machine |
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| [10:30:08] | kumamoto: | thank u rsdvd_ for u r help found the wiki and I will concerntrate on it |
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| [10:35:28] | juski: | morny |
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| [12:10:06] | lehmama: | ok my problem is that i play dvd with the internal mythplayer and at the start (the introduction) the sound is working but when i start the actuall movie the sound is gone |
| [12:10:12] | lehmama: | any help available |
| [12:11:37] | maniacxs_: | lehmama: have you tried to choose the audio track manually? |
| [12:12:11] | maniacxs_: | lehmama: was the dvd created with mytharchive? |
| [12:13:12] | lehmama: | no its a usual dvd with different music videos |
| [12:13:13] | juski: | not much going on, so I'm offski |
| [12:13:14] | juski: | bye |
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| [12:14:25] | lehmama: | the dvd starts with an introduction (then the sound works fine) and then i have to choose a video and if i do that the video is playing but the sound not .... i can play the dvd with kaffeine |
| [12:15:15] | maniacxs_: | do you have multiple audio tracks for the video? |
| [12:15:35] | lehmama: | yep and it is set to stereo |
| [12:15:48] | maniacxs_: | have you tried the other tracks? |
| [12:18:13] | lehmama: | yep same problem ... ok i just figured out that if i change to dolby digital the sound is playing |
| [12:19:53] | maniacxs_: | i would suggest to check your sound settings. it is possible, that it is dvd related. |
| [12:20:16] | lehmama: | but under kaffeine it works fine |
| [12:21:15] | maniacxs_: | i did not say, that it is not a possible problem with internal |
| [12:21:54] | maniacxs_: | does kaffeine use the same sound settings the internal uses? |
| [12:22:32] | maniacxs_: | kaffeine does not access the configuration you set in the mythtv configuration menu :) |
| [12:22:39] | maniacxs_: | please check this settings |
| [12:23:15] | lehmama: | yep but i just use the defaults and the sound of the introduction is working fine |
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| [12:25:12] | maniacxs: | the sound of the introduction is it stereo or dolby digital? |
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| [12:27:34] | lehmama: | dunno ... i didnt create this dvd |
| [12:27:41] | maniacxs: | lehmama: if you would like to talk in german you can join #mythtv-de |
| [12:28:13] | lehmama: | but i cant talk german |
| [12:28:42] | maniacxs: | lehmama: your host displayed is from germany |
| [12:30:19] | maniacxs: | lehmama: in kaffeine you can press while the intro is playing "Player" and the one with the info symbol |
| [12:32:21] | lehmama: | yh and i am in germany right |
| [12:32:38] | lehmama: | now |
| [12:32:47] | lehmama: | ok i just will try another dvd |
| [12:33:16] | maniacxs: | have you tried to check what audio has the into with kaffeine= |
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| [13:02:07] | justdave: | anyone know how to move a recording to a different recording group? |
| [13:02:45] | justdave: | there appears to be an item to do that in the context menu when browsing recording, but it doesn't actually do anything unless I'm doing something wrong... |
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| [13:04:23] | justdave: | I have groups set up for each family member now, and there's a few recordings that went into "Default" before the family member folders got created |
| [13:04:36] | justdave: | I'd like to assign them to the proper family member |
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| [13:13:58] | GreyFoxx: | justdave: When yoiu have the recording selected, hit I |
| [13:14:02] | GreyFoxx: | then Storage Options |
| [13:14:08] | GreyFoxx: | and Change recording group |
| [13:14:15] | GreyFoxx: | then pick the group |
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| [13:14:28] | GreyFoxx: | I use a few groups myself. |
| [13:14:33] | rsdvd_: | welcome back juski |
| [13:14:53] | GreyFoxx: | One for all of my Daughters stuff, stuff I've watched but my wife hasn't, and stuff I wanna keep around, but can be transcoded/archived later |
| [13:15:14] | GreyFoxx: | and I have a perl script that runs through any adds jobs to transcode anything in my daughters group or archvie group |
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| [13:20:40] | Dalran: | any idea what would cause the listings in mythweb to have a show that is supposed to start at 7am showing that it starts at 4am? timezone is set correctly as far as I can tell. |
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| [13:22:10] | juski: | hmm the old 'as far as I can tell' thing ;) |
| [13:22:35] | Dalran: | yes, that old thing. |
| [13:22:48] | Dalran: | from console date and time and timezone show correct. |
| [13:23:14] | rsdvd_: | juski : did you find your usb stick last night? |
| [13:25:40] | Dalran: | I am completely lost on this thing now. |
| [13:26:39] | juski: | rsdvd_: nope |
| [13:27:06] | rsdvd_: | dalman – are you sure you are getting your listing feed from the right place? it is not the lsitings from a station on the other side of the US? |
| [13:27:21] | rsdvd_: | juski : if you were any closer I would pop round with one |
| [13:27:26] | Dalran: | absolutely certain. |
| [13:27:53] | Dalran: | I was using an earlier version of knoppmyth and just built a new box with the latest and greatest with the same listing service. |
| [13:28:02] | Dalran: | the earlier version worked great. |
| [13:28:18] | rsdvd_: | just a thought! |
| [13:28:54] | Dalran: | I had the same thought as my cable provider recently changed from adelphia to comcast |
| [13:29:04] | Dalran: | but the listing service updated just fine. |
| [13:29:16] | justdave: | GreyFoxx: I tried that, and it doesn't do anything |
| [13:29:27] | justdave: | (the group doesn't actually change, it just goes through the motions on the menu) |
| [13:30:06] | GreyFoxx: | justdave: Well, it is likely changing the recording group, but your current group filter is probably set to "All programs" which shows everything regardless of group |
| [13:30:06] | GreyFoxx: | :) |
| [13:30:28] | GreyFoxx: | Change your current filter to "default" and those ones might disappear |
| [13:30:35] | justdave: | if I back out of it and go back in it's still in the same group |
| [13:30:51] | juski: | oo kubongo has almost finished downloady :) |
| [13:30:59] | GreyFoxx: | What is yourcurrent group filter set to ? |
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| [13:31:07] | justdave: | Default |
| [13:31:24] | fryfrog: | DAMN YOU UMBONGO |
| [13:31:51] | juski: | fryfrog: no need to damn it. tis already damned, see |
| [13:31:54] | GreyFoxx: | So, you are currentl in default, you are using what I described to change a shows group to another one, but it remains in your default view ? |
| [13:31:57] | ** GreyFoxx pulls up a frontend ** | |
| [13:32:09] | justdave: | GreyFoxx: yup. |
| [13:32:41] | justdave: | just tried it going in via All Programs, and if I go back in to change it a second time it still shows the current group as Default after going in that way too |
| [13:32:59] | justdave: | running 0.20-fixes in case it matters :) |
| [13:33:42] | justdave: | (via the package in Ubuntu) |
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| [13:35:53] | GreyFoxx: | Odd, you can certainly check the recgroup directly in mysql |
| [13:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | do you know the mythtv users mysql password? |
| [13:36:59] | juski: | it's in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt anyway |
| [13:37:33] | defaultro: | morning folks. Can we copy to and from an rsync server? |
| [13:37:54] | juski: | what 'd sto pyou? |
| [13:38:24] | defaultro: | is that for me juski? |
| [13:38:53] | defaultro: | actually, can we copy to the rsync server? Like uploading a file to the server? |
| [13:38:57] | justdave: | yeah, what table would that be in? |
| [13:39:09] | justdave: | defaultro: nah, that was probably for me |
| [13:39:14] | defaultro: | :) |
| [13:39:25] | Dibblah: | Bah humbug. There's no easy way to activate RLE, etc on qpixmap / qimage :( |
| [13:39:33] | GreyFoxx: | justdave : recorded , the recgroup column |
| [13:39:39] | justdave: | I know the root mysql password, that's better ;) |
| [13:39:51] | Dibblah: | And setting the optimisation level doesn't help either. |
| [13:40:02] | GreyFoxx: | defaultro: Precisely what server are you wanting to upload to ? |
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| [13:43:18] | justdave: | ok, got it. successfully moved it |
| [13:43:40] | justdave: | thanks |
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| [14:22:24] | lehmama: | is it possible to hear music from mt-daapd server with myth tv? |
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| [14:25:23] | sandeen_: | not that I know of |
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| [14:25:26] | Dalran: | how would one go about wiping the lineup database? Or does mythfilldatabase do that automagically? |
| [14:28:19] | Krazylegz: | Morning. |
| [14:32:20] | Dalran: | not I. |
| [14:33:11] | Krazylegz: | Looks neat-o. |
| [14:33:29] | Dalran: | looks like windows. |
| [14:33:30] | Krazylegz: | Maybe when kormoc wakes up I'll convince him to buy it and set it up. |
| [14:33:40] | Krazylegz: | Yeah, it runs Windows Embedded. Shhh. |
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| [14:34:00] | Dalran: | I would likely not buy it for that and the fact that it is likely way too expensive. |
| [14:40:53] | Dalran: | ok...this is really bugging me now. |
| [14:41:11] | Dalran: | can not for the life of me figure out why mythtv has all schedules offset by 3 hours. |
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| [14:49:08] | GreyFoxx: | bad timezone ? |
| [14:50:29] | planktonboy: | hi all |
| [14:50:40] | planktonboy: | a quick question if I may |
| [14:50:56] | planktonboy: | I cant seem to play back the Simpsons |
| [14:52:10] | planktonboy: | I can record it and watch it in vlc or xine, but cant seem to watch either the live tv or the recorded file in mythtv |
| [14:52:21] | planktonboy: | all other programs work fine in mythtv |
| [14:52:36] | planktonboy: | but how come not the Simpsons |
| [14:52:54] | planktonboy: | any ideas on how to fix this would be appreciated |
| [14:55:48] | Milosch: | maybe your recording schedule has some post processing selected that is not working correctly? |
| [14:59:03] | planktonboy: | you mean like transcoding |
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| [15:03:18] | planktonboy: | on a related note ... if I go to the Media Library – Watch Recordings window and select a recording to watch there are some signs at the bottom of the window. A tombstone sign with RIP on it and a $ sign with a no entry across it...what do they mean |
| [15:03:40] | planktonboy: | I cant find any mention about them on google |
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| [15:09:25] | qu0zl: | sorry for the way off topic, but do we have any dutch people here? (we usually do). Do dutch computers use qwerty keyboards? |
| [15:09:54] | qu0zl: | gah and as soon as i send that, wikipedia comes through for me http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout# . . . herlands.29, sorry, never mind |
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| [15:41:32] | mboman: | I am trying to find out how I can add a 2nd drive to my myth box, but google fails me.... |
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| [15:44:13] | fryfrog: | uh, open pc, screw drive down, hook up? |
| [15:57:15] | mboman: | fryfrog: done that bit, do I need to tell MythTV that I got more movies at a new location and if so, how do I do it? |
| [15:57:44] | fryfrog: | well, you'll need to mount the drive |
| [15:57:52] | fryfrog: | and i don't know if myth supports movies in *two* places |
| [15:58:04] | fryfrog: | so you might need to copy all your movies to *one* drive and tell mythvideo where it is |
| [15:58:14] | fryfrog: | and then maybe use *all* of the other drive for your recordings dir |
| [15:58:19] | mboman: | ok, seems like I need to install LVM on it then |
| [15:59:25] | mboman: | Any particular distro that is particular favorable to run Myth on? |
| [15:59:39] | fryfrog: | which ever one you are familiair with :) |
| [15:59:48] | fryfrog: | fedora is popular due to jarod's guides |
| [15:59:59] | mboman: | I am familiar with most of them |
| [16:00:01] | fryfrog: | ubuntu is an easy distro, though maybe not as mythed as fedora |
| [16:00:15] | fryfrog: | i still <3 gentoo myself and am now wishing i hadn't moved to ubuntu :p |
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| [16:00:40] | mboman: | I am on Gentoo at the moment, and what I don't like about Gentoo is the time spent compiling stuff... |
| [16:00:57] | fryfrog: | yeah, that can suck |
| [16:01:00] | fryfrog: | ccache can help |
| [16:01:15] | fryfrog: | i'm just finding myself doing a small number of things that were *easier* in gentoo than in ubuntu |
| [16:01:26] | fryfrog: | and the compile time never really bothered me |
| [16:01:39] | Defend: | i preffer compiling |
| [16:01:44] | Defend: | i dont like binary |
| [16:01:54] | fryfrog: | hehe |
| [16:02:09] | Defend: | alow better customizing :) |
| [16:02:25] | Defend: | so all u guys ready for the timechange |
| [16:02:26] | Defend: | lol |
| [16:02:48] | fryfrog: | i'm gonna change times so hardcore that it won't know what happened |
| [16:04:26] | opello: | i'm curious how that's getting rolled out in linux |
| [16:04:39] | opello: | just update binutils or something? |
| [16:05:15] | fryfrog: | er, prolly just the timezone files? |
| [16:05:46] | opello: | i didn't know if those came with a particular bundle of common things or what |
| [16:05:56] | Defend: | well some distroys already have it |
| [16:06:06] | Defend: | but if u need to you update zoneinfo |
| [16:06:06] | opello: | ah |
| [16:06:10] | Defend: | then reset |
| [16:06:27] | opello: | shouldn't even require a reboot, should it? |
| [16:06:40] | opello: | just update the symlink or replace the files it points to |
| [16:06:57] | fryfrog: | oh |
| [16:07:17] | Defend: | replace the binary zonefiles |
| [16:07:25] | Defend: | it shouldnt need a reboot |
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| [16:11:18] | opello: | fryfrog: on gentoo glibc owns /usr/share/zoneinfo stuff for me |
| [16:11:44] | fryfrog: | ah |
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| [16:30:28] | fryfrog: | remote kernel upgrade, win! |
| [16:38:20] | onewheelskyward: | nice. That can be a little hair raising. |
| [16:41:08] | fryfrog: | yes, for sure! |
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| [16:46:03] | brad_mssw: | (links: http://www.kworldcomputer.com/product/digital . . . atsc_115.htm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815260005 ) |
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| [16:51:52] | fryfrog: | what does the maker say about linux? |
| [16:52:38] | fryfrog: | does MCE *require* hardware mpeg2? |
| [16:52:53] | fryfrog: | cause i don't see anything there that implies it *has* hardware mpeg2 encoding |
| [16:53:06] | brad_mssw: | fryfrog: no, the maker doesn't mention linux .. |
| [16:53:23] | fryfrog: | though usually they'll mention mpeg4 as well if its software |
| [16:53:36] | fryfrog: | but their only mention of mpeg2 could be because HDTV *is* mpeg2 |
| [16:53:52] | brad_mssw: | fryfrog: and the thing the implies the hardware mpeg2 encoder is that it states 'Supports Real-time video recording in MPEG-2 format.' '(e.g. record 1 hour programs into MPEG2 files takes around 1.8G)' .. that doesn't sound like HD to me |
| [16:56:56] | brad_mssw: | (even though HD is obviously mpeg2) |
| [16:57:06] | fryfrog: | hummm |
| [16:57:12] | fryfrog: | well, i guess now its time to explore teh linux |
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| [17:03:11] | Zaw: | i've searched the user list as recommended, i'm looking for a DVB card that will work well with mythtv. can anybody recommend one that they've used and are happy with? |
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| [17:32:33] | brad_mssw: | Zaw: elaborate on DVB ... There's US-DVB like ATSC, there's DVB-T, DVB-S ... and so on |
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| [17:32:55] | brad_mssw: | Zaw: primarily tell us what country you're in, and if you're doing over-the-air, over-cable, or over-satellite |
| [17:33:08] | Zaw: | well, i'm a bit of a newbie on such terms (reading up on them over the past hour or so). i live in the US and would like to get as much free TV as possible. |
| [17:33:31] | Zaw: | from what i can tell, i should get a satellite dish as well as an external antennae |
| [17:35:20] | brad_mssw: | sounds like you'd need 2 cards then ... |
| [17:35:43] | brad_mssw: | an ATSC tuner, like the pcHDTV5500 or Divco Fusion HDTV Gold |
| [17:35:57] | brad_mssw: | and a DVB-S tuner (can't recommend one there as I don't do satellite stuff) |
| [17:37:09] | Zaw: | okay so the ATSC is for receiving free HDTV broadcast stations and the DVB-S is for satellite reception? |
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| [18:02:48] | eulin: | hi all |
| [18:03:53] | eulin: | if I switch channel I hear audio but at the star always no sound |
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| [18:05:39] | planktonboy: | anyone in UK here |
| [18:06:21] | planktonboy: | just tried to watch the Simpsons again and it still wont allow me to watch it |
| [18:07:27] | planktonboy: | I tried leaving channel 4 on so that it would go straight from the previous program Richard and Judy to the Simpsons and mythtv froze the screen about 10 seconds before |
| [18:07:58] | planktonboy: | anyone got a clue why its only the Simpsons that I cant watch |
| [18:08:04] | planktonboy: | its driving me insane |
| [18:08:48] | cliche: | no idea I'm afraid. I have no trouble |
| [18:08:58] | cliche: | Is it related to Simpsons being in 4:3 whilst most others aren't atm? |
| [18:08:59] | planktonboy: | is there something about the simpsons transmission that is different from all other transmissions |
| [18:09:18] | cliche: | Simpsons is one of the few shows that makes mine go to 4:3 |
| [18:09:24] | planktonboy: | cliche ah |
| [18:09:31] | planktonboy: | could be |
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| [18:10:16] | planktonboy: | is ther anywher I can set that as an option to change that just for simpsons then |
| [18:10:42] | cliche: | If you set it to record does it work? Is it just the playback that's a problem? |
| [18:11:22] | planktonboy: | it records ok and I can then watch it in another player or stream it to laptop via vlc, but juat cant watch it in Myth |
| [18:11:42] | planktonboy: | cliche yes |
| [18:12:17] | planktonboy: | yes the playback doesnt work, and also the playback of the recorded program in myth |
| [18:14:29] | planktonboy: | just looking in playback tv settings and was wondering if aspect override might be issue...as mine is set to off |
| [18:16:06] | planktonboy: | do you guys usually have that set to off or any other setting |
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| [18:19:34] | harzi: | i have a mythbackend with a pvr500 and a BT878, both working fine, but the BT878 is only mono and therfore i don't want to record with it (but for nxtepg and live-tv it's ok). I priorised the BT878 in Myth-Setup with -1 and thought that is my solution. Unfortunate it still wants to record with the BT878. what to do? |
| [18:20:09] | fryfrog: | harzi: so you put the bt878 to -1 and the pvr500 to 0 or 1? |
| [18:20:22] | fryfrog: | do you have the "avoid conflicts with livetv" checked or not? |
| [18:20:28] | fryfrog: | also, do you have the same *lineup* on both cards? |
| [18:20:45] | fryfrog: | you might also consider simply re-arranging their order (blow away all yoru cards, add the pvr500s first, then the 878 |
| [18:21:03] | harzi: | fryfrog: yes the pvr is 0 |
| [18:21:30] | harzi: | the BT878 becomes tuner 12, the PVR500 becomes 13 and 14 |
| [18:21:41] | fryfrog: | you have 11 *other* cards? |
| [18:21:56] | harzi: | fryfrog: hehe, no... |
| [18:22:02] | fryfrog: | ah, nuke, readd, nuke? |
| [18:22:05] | harzi: | it startet to count like that |
| [18:22:09] | fryfrog: | you might consider running mythtv-setup |
| [18:22:20] | fryfrog: | then using the "remove *all* cards" option to clear em out |
| [18:22:35] | fryfrog: | (not just remove cards on *this* backend) |
| [18:22:43] | harzi: | when i delete the cards and resetup, my tuner-settings remain? |
| [18:22:53] | fryfrog: | I have 2x air2pc pci hdtv cards, 2 firewire |
| [18:23:02] | fryfrog: | the pci cards have prio of 1 and the firewire is 0 and -1 |
| [18:23:06] | fryfrog: | and it picks teh righ tones |
| [18:23:16] | fryfrog: | harzi: you'll lose the *card* specific stuff, but not the line ups |
| [18:23:24] | fryfrog: | the card entries are trivially easy to re-do, no? |
| [18:23:25] | harzi: | fryfrog: true, there are more tuner defined on a other backend |
| [18:23:36] | fryfrog: | oh, you have another be |
| [18:23:59] | harzi: | fryfrog: unfortunate not, i had to setup every single channel by hand (frequency tune) |
| [18:24:35] | harzi: | ah, ok.. .line-up remains |
| [18:25:28] | fryfrog: | yeah, harzi i did too |
| [18:25:35] | fryfrog: | stupid cable/qam crap |
| [18:26:28] | harzi: | i live in switzerland and there are tables available for every little place, but still there are tunings required |
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| [18:30:28] | planktonboy: | nope that didnt work....tried setting aspect ratio to 4/3 and to fill but no luck |
| [18:30:55] | planktonboy: | damnit...the one program thats worth watching on tv and I cant watch it |
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| [18:31:15] | fryfrog: | harzi: where in CH? |
| [18:31:40] | harzi: | fryfrog: Dietikon, near Zurich |
| [18:31:52] | fryfrog: | I used to live near Zurich :) |
| [18:31:58] | fryfrog: | near Wedensville? |
| [18:32:03] | fryfrog: | erm, my spelling is horrible |
| [18:32:19] | harzi: | waedenswil, yes.. at the lake |
| [18:32:23] | fryfrog: | yup yup |
| [18:32:34] | harzi: | nice... |
| [18:32:37] | fryfrog: | one stop after waedenswil traveling away from zurich |
| [18:32:42] | fryfrog: | talville? |
| [18:32:59] | harzi: | talwil, the big train-station |
| [18:33:10] | fryfrog: | humm, no thats not it then :/ |
| [18:33:17] | fryfrog: | that was where i went to school |
| [18:33:40] | harzi: | big it isn't, but a lot of trains stops there |
| [18:34:13] | fryfrog: | the one i was had just had 2 platforms (up and down) |
| [18:34:28] | fryfrog: | i think talvil had about 4 platforms, most with tracks on both sides? |
| [18:34:46] | harzi: | hm, ah afer waedenswil... not to zurich |
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| [18:35:01] | fryfrog: | away from zurich |
| [18:35:12] | fryfrog: | http://fryfrog.com/wordpress/v/Jo/Misc/Switzerland/ |
| [18:35:14] | fryfrog: | here we go |
| [18:35:18] | fryfrog: | Richterswil! |
| [18:36:18] | harzi: | genau, and then is end of canton zurich |
| [18:36:33] | fryfrog: | pfeficon? |
| [18:36:36] | fryfrog: | man, that is spelled wrong |
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| [18:36:53] | harzi: | pfaeffikon is already canton schwyz |
| [18:37:28] | harzi: | less taxes |
| [18:37:48] | fryfrog: | ah, yes that is where my mom worked |
| [18:37:49] | reldruh: | with the hauppauge pvr-500 (the one that comes with a remote), does it come with an ir reciever as well, and can I use it on a different computer than the one with the tuner in it? |
| [18:37:58] | fryfrog: | was only 1 or 2 stops from richterswil |
| [18:38:25] | fryfrog: | reldruh: I *believe* it comes with a USB IR remote, you could use it on what ever you want (windows, linux, etc) |
| [18:38:45] | fryfrog: | I have a PVR500 that someone sent me and *they* kept the remote, so it can't plug *into* the card |
| [18:38:45] | reldruh: | so the ir reciever isn't integrated into the card itself? |
| [18:39:13] | fryfrog: | i believe pretty strongly that that is true :) |
| [18:39:21] | reldruh: | OK |
| [18:39:44] | reldruh: | well then it looks like I'll order that card today and plug it into my server whenever it gets here |
| [18:39:56] | reldruh: | I'm sure I'll be back here at some point during the process :-) |
| [18:40:15] | reldruh: | thanks guys |
| [18:43:01] | harzi: | fryfrog: ah, now i have the pvr-500 as tuner 1&2 and the BT878 as tuner3 and the recording-schedule looks good |
| [18:43:13] | fryfrog: | harzi: good :) |
| [18:43:19] | fryfrog: | harzi: i don't know why priority didn't work ;/ |
| [18:43:31] | fryfrog: | did you *stop* the be, make changes in mythtv-setup then start mythbackend again? |
| [18:43:42] | harzi: | yes |
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| [18:47:57] | planktonboy: | nope nothing worked there |
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| [18:49:10] | planktonboy: | any other ideas why I cant watch simpsons on live tv or as a recorded program in mythtv but can watch in vlc or other players |
| [18:54:53] | GreyFoxx: | That must be the GoodTaste plugin is turned on |
| [18:54:58] | GreyFoxx: | jk ;) |
| [18:56:08] | planktonboy: | haha |
| [18:56:11] | planktonboy: | yeah |
| [18:57:47] | planktonboy: | its so frustrating though...theres so much crap on tv here in UK but it really bugd me that of all the programs on tv why would it have to be the only program that I HATE to miss |
| [18:57:59] | planktonboy: | bugs even |
| [18:59:19] | gardengnome: | well, you're not missing it |
| [18:59:31] | gardengnome: | it's there. like a nice new backup you can't restore |
| [18:59:40] | planktonboy: | LOL |
| [18:59:43] | planktonboy: | yup |
| [18:59:59] | gardengnome: | planktonboy: use mythfrontend/mythbackend --verbose help to find out more |
| [19:00:33] | planktonboy: | thanks gardengnome..will try tht |
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| [19:37:44] | fryfrog: | man, next time i have a few days off i'm going back to gentoo |
| [19:37:49] | fryfrog: | ubuntu can bite my shiney metal ass |
| [19:38:12] | gardengnome: | heh |
| [19:40:11] | harzi: | debian is ok |
| [19:40:34] | fryfrog: | trying to compile and install your own kernel was a pita, but not that bad |
| [19:40:35] | kormoc: | Mmm... emerge... |
| [19:41:15] | harzi: | linus shouldn't have invented the x.x.x.x kernel |
| [19:42:01] | cliche: | <heresy>stock kernel on Ubuntu isn't bad</heresy> |
| [19:42:04] | fryfrog: | trying to do "linux-restricted-modules" for it was a *PAIN* |
| [19:42:05] | fryfrog: | er, still is |
| [19:42:11] | fryfrog: | cause i haven't finished |
| [19:42:19] | fryfrog: | cliche: nah, stock kernel on ubuntu was pretty awesome |
| [19:42:24] | fryfrog: | until i wanted to grow my raid5 array |
| [19:42:38] | fryfrog: | the *feature* is in 2.6.17, but not enabled on the ubuntu kernel :( |
| [19:43:03] | cliche: | have you looked at the Feisty kernels? |
| [19:43:08] | fryfrog: | on the good side, i did a remote kernerl upgrade to 2.6.20.1 and it worked fine |
| [19:43:22] | fryfrog: | i dunno much about ubuntu, could i use the feisty kernel w/o going to feisty? |
| [19:43:43] | cliche: | I have a mishmash of Dapper/Edgy/Feisty on mine and it seems to work |
| [19:44:00] | fryfrog: | do you just find and dpkg the debs? |
| [19:44:07] | fryfrog: | or do you put a specific repository in your apt list/ |
| [19:44:45] | fryfrog: | but then my whole box will want to become fesisty |
| [19:44:51] | fryfrog: | when i upgrade/dist-upgrade |
| [19:44:54] | cliche: | Then I used aptitude to upgrade packages I fancied. TBH the only feisty stuff I have atm is kernel and X.org |
| [19:45:14] | cliche: | Just don't do a dist-upgrade; upgrade individual packages as you see fit |
| [19:45:22] | fryfrog: | blah |
| [19:45:34] | fryfrog: | i want to use a package manager, not have a package manager use me :p |
| [19:45:34] | cliche: | Personally I'm terrified of the idea of upgrading everything at once :) |
| [19:45:37] | fryfrog: | gentoo, ftw |
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| [19:45:57] | fryfrog: | i don't wanna upgrade everythign at once, but seeing a list of 5 or 6 things every week or so is fine with me |
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| [19:56:57] | hjohnson: | hmm.. I had a SATA error a few days ago. |
| [20:01:04] | fryfrog: | uh oh! |
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| [20:41:09] | eulin: | some one have problem with compix(aiglx) on mythtv? |
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| [21:01:51] | psofa: | does myth support utf8 for epg program etc? |
| [21:02:24] | psofa: | last time i checked (6–7 months) it wasnt working.... |
| [21:07:22] | clintar: | is this project still alive? |
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| [21:11:15] | kormoc: | clintar, why no, the few dozen commits daliy are entirely meaningless... |
| [21:11:51] | psofa: | biatches! you answer these questions and not a decent one like mine! |
| [21:13:57] | clintar: | you have to provoke them |
| [21:14:07] | clintar: | call myth stupid for not supporting utf8 |
| [21:14:10] | clintar: | that'd do it |
| [21:14:30] | clintar: | i guess the biatches thing should do it, too |
| [21:14:49] | psofa: | >< |
| [21:14:51] | S2: | psofa, i'll answer your question |
| [21:15:06] | S2: | psofa, rewrite it, i joined late |
| [21:15:29] | clintar: | <psofa> does myth support utf8 for epg program etc? |
| [21:15:57] | ** psofa smells sarcasm ** | |
| [21:16:17] | S2: | psofa, no |
| [21:16:25] | S2: | no utf8 |
| [21:16:30] | S2: | :) |
| [21:16:36] | psofa: | :( |
| [21:16:46] | psofa: | but really , not? |
| [21:16:51] | psofa: | err |
| [21:16:53] | gardengnome: | i doubt that |
| [21:16:53] | psofa: | why not |
| [21:16:53] | S2: | you can try it, but it does not work good |
| [21:16:58] | gardengnome: | i can't prove it but i doubt it |
| [21:17:11] | psofa: | at least when i tried it it didnt work |
| [21:17:26] | S2: | you can make your db utf8 |
| [21:17:37] | gardengnome: | S2: that'll break stuff. don't do it. |
| [21:17:44] | S2: | but you will always get strange chars for äöüé and so on |
| [21:17:49] | psofa: | gardengnome, actually thats the reason im asking |
| [21:17:58] | psofa: | i made mysql default to utf8 |
| [21:18:01] | gardengnome: | heh |
| [21:18:04] | gardengnome: | good job. |
| [21:18:13] | psofa: | for another app to work with intl chars |
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| [21:18:33] | psofa: | i had it to latin1 because myth was doing fancy stuff |
| [21:18:50] | S2: | i have a question too: does myth svn support hybrid analog/digital cards? |
| [21:19:07] | psofa: | but since the myth db is already created this wont cause harm right? |
| [21:19:11] | gardengnome: | mythtv doesn't care much about the charset for the mysql database. it just uses it store the data, be it latin1 or utf8 |
| [21:19:25] | S2: | i saw some patches about hybrid cards, but i don't know if and how it works |
| [21:19:31] | psofa: | S2, i suppose thats myth irrelevant |
| [21:19:35] | psofa: | oh |
| [21:19:51] | ** gardengnome will shut up about stuff he doesn't know now ** | |
| [21:19:52] | S2: | psofa, not really. |
| [21:20:35] | psofa: | S2, hybrid cards should appear as 2 independant cards from the kernel |
| [21:20:44] | psofa: | at least thats what i guess |
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| [21:21:41] | hardnova: | hi |
| [21:22:10] | hardnova: | is there an easy way to switch between tv and LCD for xorg ? |
| [21:22:14] | S2: | psofa, yes. but with hybrid cards you can only use one card at time, but myth thinks you have 2 different tuners. so myth tryes to use them together, but it can't |
| [21:22:52] | S2: | hardnova, depends. what graphics card do you have? |
| [21:22:59] | psofa: | i thought hybrid cards could work independently |
| [21:23:20] | hardnova: | Nvidia Fx5500 AGP |
| [21:24:11] | S2: | psofa, no. my hvr-3000 for example has a dvb-s tuner, a dvb-t tuner and an analog tuner, but you can only use one at time |
| [21:24:25] | psofa: | that stinks |
| [21:24:27] | psofa: | :P |
| [21:25:05] | S2: | well, not really a problem. it's just that myth thinks he can use all 3 tuners at the same time :) |
| [21:25:10] | Milosch: | probably why the card doesn't cost $600 |
| [21:25:27] | psofa: | actually |
| [21:25:35] | jlt: | Hello. Can someone tell me how to make an additional tv_grab_* available for use with mythtv? |
| [21:25:44] | psofa: | 3 cards costs 150$ |
| [21:26:19] | S2: | psofa, but a case with 3 cards in it is to big for my living room :) |
| [21:26:43] | psofa: | you could have a seperate box with the cards in :) |
| [21:27:18] | jlt: | (I can not select for example tv_grab_ch_bluewin) |
| [21:27:30] | S2: | yes, but that would require a complete rewire of my house |
| [21:27:46] | S2: | house=apartment really... |
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| [21:32:46] | S2: | is there a bug or a feture request on svn.mythtv.org for the multiple channels on same multiplex thing? |
| [21:32:59] | S2: | i can't find it... |
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| [21:39:38] | S2: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/1772 here it is :) |
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| [21:46:24] | juski: | evening |
| [21:47:45] | S2: | hi juski! |
| [21:48:01] | S2: | you know for shure! does myth svn support hybrid cards somehow? |
| [21:48:53] | juski: | I shurely don't shurely know for shure that hybrid cardsh are shupported in shvn shomehow |
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| [21:49:27] | juski: | bin the analogue cards :) they won't be needed in a few years |
| [21:49:38] | juski: | unlesh you own a cable boxsh |
| [21:50:13] | S2: | :) |
| [21:50:19] | S2: | shure=sure |
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| [21:51:01] | S2: | i have a hybrid dvb-t dvb-s card |
| [21:51:20] | juski: | making hybrids work in mythtv wouldn't be that easy, so I have no idea |
| [21:51:27] | S2: | and i would like to use both tuners, but i guess i have to try svn out |
| [21:51:49] | S2: | ok. thanks anyway |
| [21:51:56] | sunbug: | Got a few questions about what i can do with myth.. Can i watch a windows media player compatible stream with myth? Can i stream channels in a windows media compatible format with myth? |
| [21:52:23] | juski: | I dunno – if motherboard makers would supply a reasonable number of PCI slots there'd be no need for these hybrid cards :) |
| [21:52:50] | juski: | sunbug: who in all honesty cares about windows media format? |
| [21:52:58] | S2: | juski, i have a small case with a mini-itx board. |
| [21:53:15] | juski: | S2: so do I, driven by a normal PC backend :) |
| [21:53:36] | juski: | you want 10 tuners on your PVR? get a proper machine ;) |
| [21:53:53] | S2: | juski, i would do that too, but that would require a rewire of my tv cables |
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| [21:54:12] | stuarta: | evening ppl |
| [21:54:12] | S2: | to much work. i think it's easier for myth to support hybrid cards :) |
| [21:54:31] | juski: | evening stuarta |
| [21:54:47] | juski: | went to see 'hot fuzz' tonight :) quality film! |
| [21:55:19] | stuarta: | cool, was thinking about seeing that on friday.... |
| [21:55:41] | stuarta: | either that or drink beer and play pool |
| [21:55:54] | juski: | drink beer & see the film – result! |
| [21:56:10] | sunbug: | juski: Hehe. Me. We got a few machiens on our network that streams TV (vlc) today. I dont want to upset the users by changing to something that needs it's own os/desktop to work. ;) Though i would like to se myth on my own tv. ;) |
| [21:56:12] | stuarta: | no you are on to something! |
| [21:56:36] | harzi: | has anybody myth-stream running and get the stream properely? rtsp://stream.livetv.chello.ch/ZDFdokukanal |
| [21:56:40] | clever: | sunbug: i think its posible to stream the nuv recordings of mythtv to a winblows pc |
| [21:56:51] | clever: | give me a min to try and open one in vlc |
| [21:56:51] | stuarta: | s/no/now |
| [21:57:12] | juski: | sunbug: vlc would have no problems with mpeg2 from a mythtv backend. getting mythtv to do the streaming will require mythstreamtv |
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| [21:57:23] | clever: | or just plain mythweb |
| [21:57:27] | clever: | which lets me download the nuv |
| [21:57:41] | clever: | and vlc can stream an http download into itself |
| [21:58:17] | clever: | mythweb just gave me a .asx 'stream' of a show:) |
| [21:58:19] | juski: | harzi: yeah I got mythstreamtv running & streaming properly. then I uninstalled it after making an entry about it on the official mythtv wiki |
| [21:58:32] | sunbug: | Hehe. Ok. |
| [21:58:34] | juski: | that was with mythtv 0.19 though |
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| [21:58:57] | clever: | vlc plays the .asx from mythweb just fine:D |
| [21:59:15] | clever: | aspect ratio is off |
| [21:59:19] | clever: | same as when playing it in mplayer |
| [21:59:35] | NightMonkey: | IIRC, xris was talking about merging mythstreamTV into MythWeb proper. |
| [21:59:37] | clever: | file is in a square number of pixels but the ratio isnt 1:1 |
| [21:59:50] | harzi: | juski: means you were not happy with it? |
| [21:59:54] | ** NightMonkey misses mythstreamtv ** | |
| [22:00:00] | Niklas_E: | is there any special codec that myth uses when it is recording in rtjpeg? |
| [22:00:22] | juski: | harzi: no it means the novelty wore off very quickly |
| [22:00:27] | clever: | i think rtjpeg is the codec it uses |
| [22:00:51] | juski: | like "hey look! cool!!"... then an hour later "ah, well.. no use to me really" |
| [22:01:30] | juski: | Niklas_E: yeah. the documentation mentions nuppelvideo (.nuv) which mythtv uses |
| [22:01:44] | clever: | just found the button in vlc to force 4:3 :D |
| [22:01:45] | juski: | <documentation rant!> |
| [22:02:04] | Niklas_E: | tnx |
| [22:02:29] | harzi: | juski: hm, ok... i understand... |
| [22:03:07] | harzi: | juski: but i would get some channels of interesst by IPTV |
| [22:03:35] | juski: | harzi: if you read the documentation, you will find out that mythtv has *some* IPTV support |
| [22:03:49] | juski: | and with the mythstream plugin you can watch online streams. amazing! |
| [22:03:53] | harzi: | but myth-stream isn't very intuitve to controll, cool would be an integration in myth-tv |
| [22:03:59] | juski: | oh ffs |
| [22:04:08] | juski: | /ignore whiners |
| [22:04:31] | kslater: | does nuvexport require mtd to be running? |
| [22:04:59] | juski: | kslater: no |
| [22:05:12] | ** harzi digs again myth-doc to find iptv-stuff ** | |
| [22:05:24] | kslater: | trying to run it on my 2ndary box and it timed out waiting for fifos |
| [22:05:57] | harzi: | juski: tja, coding isn't my business... i could donate some hw ;) |
| [22:06:54] | Dibblah: | juski: Saw qpixmap::optimisation and got all hopeful. Makes no difference :( |
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| [22:07:04] | juski: | Dibblah: huh? |
| [22:07:23] | Dibblah: | Themes are loaded (eventually) as qpixmaps. |
| [22:07:29] | juski: | ah yeah |
| [22:07:43] | juski: | let theme(s) eat RAM :) |
| [22:07:52] | Dibblah: | There's something that looks like it should reduce memory consumpution, but it doesn't. |
| [22:08:12] | Dibblah: | I believe it should do something with heavily alpha-blended images, but... |
| [22:08:13] | juski: | I'm actually going to revisit blootube-wide to reduce the amount of ram it uses. it won't affect it much though |
| [22:08:31] | harzi: | juski: heh |
| [22:08:42] | juski: | might save the memory that 6 rescaled background images use up though :) |
| [22:09:21] | juski: | it looks really lame compared to mepo-wide & neon-wide anyway IMHO |
| [22:09:27] | clever: | i find when i hit escape at the main menu |
| [22:09:31] | clever: | when it asks me to confirm exit |
| [22:09:39] | clever: | that it seems to unload a good deal of stuff |
| [22:09:45] | clever: | causing lots of swaping and delays |
| [22:09:58] | clever: | then when i cancle the exit it reloads causing more delays:P |
| [22:10:24] | Dibblah: | Err... That'll be known as 'swapping', then ;) |
| [22:10:38] | clever: | same thing:P |
| [22:11:12] | clever: | yet my laptop with less ram has to swap less data when doing that |
| [22:11:19] | clever: | might be related to its lower number of plugins |
| [22:11:23] | Dibblah: | I'm still not convinced about this 'loading all theme data into RAM' thing. |
| [22:11:41] | Dibblah: | Totally the right thing to do before the rescaled theme cache, but... |
| [22:11:47] | juski: | I've never been convinced about it |
| [22:11:53] | clever: | you could simple mmap the images into ram |
| [22:12:04] | Dibblah: | clever: That's not cleverl. |
| [22:12:08] | clever: | and then if there ram space is needed they wont eat swap instead |
| [22:12:22] | Dibblah: | mmap makes no real difference. |
| [22:12:28] | clever: | if you make it a readonly mmap then it will take ram but not swap space |
| [22:12:51] | juski: | things have come on apace since mythtv needed hardware acceleration just to play a 320x240 video ;) |
| [22:12:56] | clever: | if the ram is needed elsewhere it will be fast/easy to free it |
| [22:14:07] | ** juski notices the clock is still ticking for $ky One, $ky Two etc to vanish. best pre-empt it & delete them from my backend :( ** | |
| [22:15:10] | juski: | not that they'll be missed much :) |
| [22:15:18] | clever: | ? |
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| [22:16:35] | ** jams wonders if GreyFoxx was able to put his family to bed at a decent hour ** | |
| [22:17:10] | juski: | ah bum. just deleting the channels from the database isn't enough. they'll have to be unplugged from xmltv too |
| [22:20:31] | juski: | done and done. a sad day for all cable customers in the UK.. well for some anyway |
| [22:21:25] | stuarta: | juski: i'd wait until 23.59, they might change their mind :) |
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| [22:23:33] | Dibblah: | Wait. That doesn't make sense. |
| [22:23:53] | stuarta: | yeah, quite frankly i've so much to watch, waiting for them to come to terrestrial isn't a big issue |
| [22:23:58] | Dibblah: | Under X11, QT pixmaps are meant to be stored in the X server. |
| [22:24:06] | jlt: | MythTVs output is smaller than my screen. My PVR-150 also seems to record all TV text information, etc. Is there something I can do about that? |
| [22:25:19] | juski: | I thought I heard something mutterred about $ky's terrestrial channels yesterday but only caught the end of the news item. something about being told to continue to broadcast un-encrippled... |
| [22:26:53] | Dibblah: | Where's the mythfrontend memory usage coming from? |
| [22:27:02] | janneg: | Dibblah: Chutt is aware that having all theme images in memory might be suboptimal but noone cared much about it |
| [22:27:10] | Dibblah: | No, it's not that. |
| [22:27:11] | ** stuarta points the finger at juski's themes ** | |
| [22:27:27] | ** juski waves and asks for someone who cares to step forward :) ** | |
| [22:27:28] | stuarta: | :) |
| [22:27:29] | Dibblah: | The memory usage should be in the X server, according to QT docs. |
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| [22:27:45] | Dibblah: | And... It is. But there's way more in mythfrontend. |
| [22:27:48] | stuarta: | i care, i just lack time.... |
| [22:27:49] | clever: | and the X server is on the frontend 90% of the time |
| [22:27:50] | janneg: | Dibblah: so you see high X and mythfrontend? with qt painter? |
| [22:27:58] | Dibblah: | Yes. |
| [22:28:11] | juski: | ah maybe it's doing both |
| [22:28:21] | Dibblah: | 137Mb of pixmaps. |
| [22:28:28] | Dibblah: | In the X server. |
| [22:28:33] | juski: | caching theme images into ram in mythtv then loading the pixmap in qt which takes ram in X |
| [22:28:33] | stuarta: | ouch |
| [22:28:51] | stuarta: | you might be onto something there |
| [22:29:20] | Dibblah: | 270Mb in the frontend (don't know how much of that is libs, etc. |
| [22:29:22] | janneg: | probably a bug caused by the opengl painter |
| [22:29:25] | juski: | just rewrite the theme engine then :) |
| [22:29:33] | Dibblah: | This is the QT painter. |
| [22:30:37] | Dibblah: | juski: No, it looks like the qimage just passes out of scope. |
| [22:30:37] | janneg: | Dibblah: I don't think the opengl painter uses pixmaps |
| [22:30:54] | Dibblah: | So should be disposed of... |
| [22:31:09] | Dibblah: | qimage for the scale, then qpixmap. |
| [22:31:14] | stuarta: | bad garbage collection? |
| [22:31:21] | Dibblah: | I don't know about the GL painter. |
| [22:31:28] | juski: | eep! there's talk of qt painter going dodo-wise already?! |
| [22:31:45] | jams: | nice, that recent am2 gigabyte motherboard that linuxbios supports has a bios chip that is soldered to the MB instead of using a socket. |
| [22:31:48] | Dibblah: | Disposed of as in deallocated. |
| [22:32:03] | juski: | heh. phew :) |
| [22:32:11] | Dibblah: | jams: It also has a nasty onboard LAN card. |
| [22:32:17] | Dibblah: | Attansic L1 or something. |
| [22:32:34] | juski: | jams: leave it with me for 30 minutes ;) |
| [22:32:48] | jams: | more work then I want todo |
| [22:33:11] | juski: | linuxbios is a tad more risky than a BIOS upgrade, fer sure |
| [22:33:30] | juski: | one oops there & it's er.. oh dear |
| [22:33:44] | jams: | i would give it a shot if it used a socket |
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| [22:35:01] | jams: | for sure its more risky then the idrive card i'm playing wiht |
| [22:35:21] | juski: | I've been tempted by linuxbios for my epia box, but put off by mixed reports about the video bios |
| [22:35:41] | jams: | oops that should be i-ram |
| [22:36:08] | jams: | juski- I have also read those reports |
| [22:36:28] | jams: | these days just the thinking of doing anything with an epia makes me shudder |
| [22:36:41] | juski: | great for clusters – not so great for frontends |
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| [22:38:50] | juski: | well time for bed. gonna play with the s100 tomorrow and continue to dream of owning a mac mini |
| [22:38:55] | juski: | g'night |
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| [22:50:18] | orko_: | when is commercial detetion done? only at transcoding time? i recorded a show without automatic transcoding. no commercial was detected. |
| [22:50:59] | clever: | commercial scaning is done seperately |
| [22:51:51] | orko_: | can i start i manually after the recording? |
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| [22:53:21] | clever: | yes |
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| [22:53:36] | clever: | if you run just 'mythcommflag' it will scan all unscanned shows and flag all comercials |
| [22:53:57] | clever: | theres also slightly more complex ways to scan just 1 show but if you got a good cpu it doesnt realy matter much |
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| [22:58:04] | orko_: | clever: can i run flagging via the GUI? |
| [22:58:25] | clever: | not shure |
| [22:58:34] | clever: | i havent found it yet |
| [22:58:52] | stuarta: | yes you can queue commflagging jobs from the frontend |
| [22:59:04] | orko_: | how? |
| [22:59:27] | orko_: | another question: when i start tarnscoding can i exit the frotnend? |
| [22:59:31] | stuarta: | in watch recordings, select the recording and press the right arrow. lots of options come up |
| [23:00:06] | stuarta: | commflagging is a backend process, so the frontend doesn't need to be running for it to operatie |
| [23:00:21] | fryfrog: | (so is transcoding) |
| [23:00:50] | orko_: | cool. can i see anywhere if tarsncoding or flagging is running? in the gui? |
| [23:01:36] | Dibblah: | Interesting. Massif appears to be showing the qimages not being deallocated. |
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| [23:02:20] | clever: | didnt think of using valgrind |
| [23:02:30] | orko_: | aah i can sse if i do right arrow in watch recordings. the button is called end transcoding if transcoding is started |
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| [23:07:14] | planktonboy: | also in system status |
| [23:07:37] | planktonboy: | in job queues |
| [23:08:45] | hatredx: | anyone else getting 404 from datadirect.webservices.zap2it.com? |
| [23:12:01] | Dagmar: | Weirdly you'll always see those |
| [23:12:15] | Dagmar: | It's if you don't see the thing make another query right after it and actually get a file you should worry |
| [23:14:22] | Dagmar: | hatredx: Time to check out your nameservice. It's working fine for me here when I run mythfilldatabase |
| [23:14:39] | hatredx: | what ip did you resolve? |
| [23:14:41] | Dagmar: | Or just see if you can telnet to port 80 of 206.18.98.160 from there |
| [23:14:52] | hatredx: | bah, its a 404 not a no response |
| [23:15:00] | hatredx: | i will get connection |
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| [23:15:41] | Dagmar: | 206.18.98.160 is what it resolves to for me |
| [23:16:43] | fryfrog: | So I have just grown my raid5 array and it is currently sync'ing |
| [23:16:55] | fryfrog: | should i wait till it syncs to grow the xfs partition on it? |
| [23:17:08] | sandeen: | I would |
| [23:17:20] | fryfrog: | okay, i concur too :) |
| [23:17:30] | sandeen: | you probably don't have to... but why push it |
| [23:17:33] | fryfrog: | it *is* still up and running though, so i suspect it woudln't hurt |
| [23:17:39] | fryfrog: | i concur! |
| [23:17:54] | sandeen: | well, there ya go |
| [23:17:55] | fryfrog: | 900 minutes total to go from 5 devices to 6 |
| [23:18:17] | sandeen: | ow. |
| [23:18:30] | fryfrog: | 1.5TB ftw though! |
| [23:18:36] | fryfrog: | and i have room for 2 more 320G drives |
| [23:18:44] | fryfrog: | so later, i could push it up to 2TB |
| [23:19:26] | ** sandeen still doesn't need 2TB for anything ** | |
| [23:20:13] | fryfrog: | so much TV my eyes bleed! |
| [23:22:55] | hatredx: | word, misconfigured nat and iproute2 on fw |
| [23:23:00] | hatredx: | thanks Dagmar for input |
| [23:24:59] | Dagmar: | fryfrog: I'm slowly but surely reassembling my music collection, which is going to require anotehr 250Gb drive |
| [23:25:28] | Dagmar: | ...and I have no illegal mp3's. |
| [23:25:57] | Dagmar: | Ripping CDs at >192kbps kinda makes yer collection chubby |
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| [23:49:06] | r3m0t: | how can I prioritise early showings – so that mythtv prefers to record something at 4am the next day instead of 7pm or 8pm? I want to apply it to specific recording schedules if possible |
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| [23:53:49] | r3m0t: | this is purely so that the tuner will be free for livetv |
| [23:54:21] | GreyFoxx: | I'm unwqare of any such configuration option |
| [23:54:49] | r3m0t: | shall I suggest it on the wiki, perhaps? |
| [23:55:05] | GreyFoxx: | I know that if the rule is a "record on this channel at anytime" and there is a conflict myth will record it at the later date, but I don't know if LiveTV is included in that |
| [23:55:33] | GreyFoxx: | Honestly I have no idea if anyone actually looks at the wishlist or not, but you are welcome to use it :) |
| [23:55:35] | r3m0t: | well, that would require myth to predict when livetv would be used |
| [23:55:46] | GreyFoxx: | no, dynamic rescheduling |
| [23:56:05] | r3m0t: | oh, hmm |
| [23:56:17] | GreyFoxx: | But if you are in LiveTV during both times then it could be aproblem |
| [23:56:26] | GreyFoxx: | Most people just buy multiple tuners :) |
| [23:56:52] | r3m0t: | *sigh* an STB |
| [23:57:03] | r3m0t: | and only 2 PCI slots, too |
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| [23:59:16] | GreyFoxx: | I'm pretty sure it warns you about a recording when in LiveTV, but I don';t know if it says "record it later" or not as I never use LiveTV |
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