Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Friday, February 23rd, 2007, 00:00 UTC

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fryfrog:

i'm tired of wasting a dual xeon 2.4 on a fe :p

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fryfrog:

and i'm going back to gentoo

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fryfrog:

screw you ubuntu

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hjohnson:

gah, I dunno what all to enable.

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fryfrog:

/dev/sda -H -a -d ata -s (S/../.././02|L/../../6/03|O/../../5/11|C/../../5/15)

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fryfrog:

thats my device line

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fryfrog:

obviousl,y with b,c,d,e,f,g

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fryfrog:

as well

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Zider:

fryfrog: then you can try my ebuild ;)

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onewheelskyward:

Zider: Which ebuild is that?

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Zider:

onewheelskyward: for mythstream

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onewheelskyward:

Aah, that one I don't use.

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Zider:

hehe

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onewheelskyward:

The ivtv & mythtv ebuilds work wonders, though.

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Zider:

I use it, and got tired of reinstalling it every time mythtv fgot updated :)

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onewheelskyward:

Nice work!

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Zider:

took a while to get it right tho, it's my first ;)

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onewheelskyward:

I'll bet..those things still baffle me. I haven't had a good reason to figure them out yet. If it's not in an ebuild, I just build it from source, old skool.

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Zider:

it's not too hard once you figure out how it works :)

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onewheelskyward:

Yeah they told me the same thing about neuro-surgery.

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Zider:

haha

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hjohnson:

fryfrog: run short every night at 2am, Long saturday at 3am, C on friday at 1500?

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gleesond:

so I got mythtv installed but when I try to run wythtv-setup it dumps core.... is there a faq or has anyone else run into this problem?

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hjohnson:

mmm.. mounting a scratch monkey

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hjohnson:

ok.. so why is smartmontools not loading

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alsoconfused:

gleesond: try mythtv-setup -v all

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juski:

damn insomnia :(

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juski:

Anduin: just checked my mail :D

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Anduin:

juski: Yup, sorry for the delay.

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juski:

hey absolutely no problem

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juski:

I like this feeling. reckon it might get addictive & gradually wear off though

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juski:

definitely gonna need some guidance doing the same trick with mythgallery though – I can't get it to work when the background element isn't there. nasty segfault

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planktonboy:

just trying to setup mythweb with WAP

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planktonboy:

does anyone here have any tips on that

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juski:

mythweb wap is something I keep meaning to do one of these days

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weaselgod:

anyone know if the conflicts between the HVR-950 and the PVR-150's have been solved yet?

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Cyberai:

OK, I have a sudden and freaky aweful problem. My video is now stuttering and I am getting errors in my mythbackend log saying "HTTPRequest::ParseRequest – Timeout waiting for request header"

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hjohnson:

<random fact>Elephants are the only animals to have four knees.</random fact>

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jduggan:

er, is that true?

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juski:

is aweful just like awesome only more so?

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planktonboy:

juski, yeah I've been reading about it and wanted to try setting it up, but not quite sure how..I'll do another google search

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planktonboy:

:)

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Cyberai:

I wish, it's making it anwatchable

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Cyberai:

err unwatchable

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Cyberai:

is that a word?

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Cyberai:

anyway, how do I fidx it?

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Zider:

watchability challenged ;)

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hjohnson:

jduggan: yes.

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jduggan:

hjohnson: cows dont have 4 knees?

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hjohnson:

dogs and cats, for example, have four elbows.

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hjohnson:

jduggan: no, the back legs are actually closer to an elbow joint.

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jduggan:

eye sea

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hjohnson:

actually, maybe I'm wrong on that.

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Cyberai:

oops, I found it, corrupted sql table, I fixed it with "ysqlcheck -u mythtv -p -A --auto-repair"

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Cyberai:

yeah that, but with a ",m" on the front

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hjohnson:

damnit.. there's another mysql patch.

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hjohnson:

i'm going to backup my database this time.

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hjohnson:

i should work on the knoppmyth distro to make it more workable.

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__marp:

whats the password on the auto-created mythtv user?

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kormoc:

depends on the distro, but tends to be mythtv

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juski:

yay another ubunut fan

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weaselgod:

anyone know if the conflicts between the HVR-950 and the PVR-150's have been solved yet?

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juski:

there's definitely an echo in here

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juski:

what conflicts?

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weaselgod:

if you get the HVR-950 working, the PVR-150 won't change channels

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weaselgod:

here is a good write-up http://www.linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/Talk . . . _Not_WORKING

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weaselgod:

the HVR-950 does work, but it tells at the end about the PVR tuning issue

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weaselgod:

I find myself stuck there as well

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juski:

maybe check the v4l mailing lists? ivtv mailing lists? ask in #linuxtv maybe?

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weaselgod:

and, yeah, I know I echo'dbut it had been about 30 minutes so I thought I woudl see if there were some more people checking things

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__marp:

hymm

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__marp:

i got the debian version, and mythtv doesn't seem to be the password...

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weaselgod:

yeah, been searching those, but I will check out #linuxtv, didn't think of going there

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juski:

__marp: are you talking about the linux password to log in, or the mysql database password?

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jams:

bummer, once again I have lost motivation to code

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__marp:

linux password

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jams:

really hinders progress when that happens

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__marp:

so

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__marp:

i'm running it in root...

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juski:

just sudo passwd mythtv & change it :)

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[SA]Pooky:

My HTPC /finally/ works!

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[SA]Pooky:

XP Media Center would work for 3 or 4 minutes before freezing, Vista Media Center would barely get me to the TV channel before freezeing

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[SA]Pooky:

But mythtv? Solid as a rock

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Zider:

ofcourse

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Zider:

it's driven by penguins

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Zider:

:D

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[SA]Pooky:

And I can finally transcode recordings. I don't know why I didn't just use this to begin with

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jams:

hi dhofstra

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jams:

where you been?

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jams:

and how you doing =)

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dhofstra:

jams.. .been a long time.. doing wonderful!

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Cyberai:

i

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dhofstra:

jams. I got this promotion that takes.... well ALL of my time. Last weekend I was going to increase my LVM size, and ruined it. Lost everything! Just trying to upgrade now since that happened, what else can go wrong...

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Hoxzer:

[SA]Pooky: :E geez, what were you thinking when you installed Windows media center

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jams:

congrats on the promotion, guess that means your no longer in the back room

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[SA]Pooky:

I have the MCE IR keyboard and there weren't any linux drivers for it

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jams:

dhofstra- #1 reason I don't use lvm

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Hoxzer:

ah

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jams:

thankfully storage groups now exisit so lvm is no longer "required"

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dhofstra:

hrm... I just setup another lvm. I'll have to look into the storage groups thingy...

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[SA]Pooky:

There are some alpha drivers for it now though, but that didn't influence my decision. Maybe it's me, but I like not having to reboot every halfhour.

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jams:

it's only in svn not a release version, but very useful

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dhofstra:

svn is not for me (yet) I'll have to stick with LVM and figure out a backup plan .... incremental backup would be nice to DVDs or something....

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jams:

dhofstra- feel free to poke around http://jmeyer.us it's my website

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jams:

not much there at the moment, but someday it might be exciting

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dhofstra:

jams: I will thanks.

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dj_segfault:

Hey. Anyone here?

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legistrate:

I am having a hard time getting the backend server to start

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legistrate:

I run it but it doesnt actually start

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tank-man:

you running it with the -d switch?

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dj_segfault:

Hey. Anyone have experience with the PVR-350?

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monkeyBox:

I'm getting very choppy video/audio (more like frequent lockups) when watching livetv. I have sufficient hardware resources, and I'm not sure how to go about debugging this issue. Any suggestions? Here's some useful info on my system: http://pastebin.com/887009

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tank-man:

how much you spend on that box minus tv card ?

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monkeyBox:

tank-man, roughly $500 for mobo, cpu, memory, psu, case

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monkeyBox:

cpu was more expensive than I'd like...

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jpe-nyc:

monkeybox – i am having smae problems been trying to track it down.

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tank-man:

is it hd content?

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monkeyBox:

It happens with HD or SD

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tank-man:

try with xmvc?

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jpe-nyc:

from what i have learned the lat couple nights (as an absolute noob) is to check that DMA on the hard drive is on.

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monkeyBox:

tank-man, I'm not sure if the i810 driver for 945GM supports xvmc....

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monkeyBox:

hmm

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monkeyBox:

what's the cmd for that again?

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tank-man:

if sd content is stuttery, i dont think it is a xmvc problem

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monkeyBox:

hdparm?

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monkeyBox:

yeah, sd is just as bad as hd

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jpe-nyc:

hdparm -d1 -c1 /dev/hda that is what I used from a page

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jpe-nyc:

tank-man i tried all settings. i think i need to update my ivtv drivers.

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monkeyBox:

hmmm

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monkeyBox:

HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted

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monkeyBox:

dma is off though..

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tank-man:

is watching recorded shows jittery or just livetv?

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jpe-nyc:

but when i try it fails... i have narrowed it down to not having the kernel-source in the usr/src folder

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jpe-nyc:

but i haven't figured out how to get it yet, thats where im at now

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[SA]Pooky:

How do I change the to channel I selected in the Programing Guide?

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monkeyBox:

well, it seems recordings are a _little_ less jittery, but they're still somewhat jittery with a LOT of digital artifacts...

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monkeyBox:

and when I play w/ mplayer I get crystal clear HD

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jpe-nyc:

monkeybox, from my researc, you need to have DMA ON

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jpe-nyc:

at 32bits or something like that

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monkeyBox:

why would I be getting this error when running hdparm -d1L HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted

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jpe-nyc:

are you root?

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monkeyBox:

ignore the extra "L" there

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monkeyBox:

yeah, I'm root

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jpe-nyc:

out of my scope of knowledge to offer any other suggestions

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** monkeyBox forgot that google is his friend **

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monkeyBox:

found a post that says I have to enable the chipset module for my mobo in the kernel

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Achew22:

Hello everyone!

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monkeyBox:

IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7 Family) Serial ATA Storage Controller IDE (rev 02)

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** monkeyBox wonders where the driver for that is ^^^ **

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** purserj sighs **

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purserj:

For some reason, the scheduler on my install has decided to completely ignore any attempt at scheduling recordings

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achew22:

my pvr-150s have stoped tuning uhf... so all the channels above 12

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achew22:

purserj, I feel your pain

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__marp:

how do u run the plugins?

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J-e-f-f-A:

achew22: Sounds like you accidentially changed your channel lineup to US-CABLE

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achew22:

compile them and install them then they appear in the menu

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__marp:

ah ok

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achew22:

J-e-f-f-A, lets see if you win a cookie

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J-e-f-f-A:

achew22: White Chocolate Chip Macadamia Nut please! ;-)

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achew22:

ooh... my favorite

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J-e-f-f-A:

Anyone here using the new Hauppauge HVR-950 USB2 HD tuner?

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achew22:

J-e-f-f-A, no, but is it supported?

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onewheelskyward:

woah, that sounds interesting.

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J-e-f-f-A:

Some have gotten it to work — according to posts on linuxtv.org — just trying to get it working on my new backend... (Along with an HD5500 that's already working...)

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achew22:

oh... I did buy one of those. I never got it working

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achew22:

not even in windows did I get it working

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J-e-f-f-A:

achew22: It's a USB Hybrid TV tuner (both Analog SDTV and Digital ATSC HDTV)...

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achew22:

J-e-f-f-A, it says Channel frequency table: us-bcast. Which should I use?

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J-e-f-f-A:

Hi xris... ;-)

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xris:

evening

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J-e-f-f-A:

achew22: Well, that should be right — assuming you're using broadcast tv. If you're using cable, it should be US-CABLE

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** achew22 bows **

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J-e-f-f-A:

UHF 13–68 != Cable 13–125...

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achew22:

well... I'll play around with it. I can't expect someone else to fix all my problems.

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J-e-f-f-A:

achew22: Was it working fine up until now?

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achew22:

Yes, but only with channels below 12

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J-e-f-f-A:

achew22: And you're not using cable, right?

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achew22:

I'm on cable

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J-e-f-f-A:

achew22: Then you want it to be US-CABLE, not us-bcast

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J-e-f-f-A:

(where's my cookie?!?) ;-)

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achew22:

in the mail... remember that email from your bank asking for your address? that was me

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J-e-f-f-A:

achew22: Oh, the one that I answered with "go.f.yourself@nowhere.com "??? ;-)

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achew22:

well you wont be getting your cookie then

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** J-e-f-f-A hates junk/spoof emails... ;-) **

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J-e-f-f-A:

xris: Just when I was starting to figure out the layout/workings of mythweb on .19 — you changed half of it in .20... ;-)

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J-e-f-f-A:

achew22: So do you have 13+ now?

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achew22:

xris: I remember from forever ago that you said you were working on streaming tv shows transcoded into flv through mythweb. Did that ever go anwhere?

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achew22:

J-e-f-f-A, Yes, thankyou very much!

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J-e-f-f-A:

achew22: kewl. ;-)

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achew22:

J-e-f-f-A, no cookie, but a heartfelt thanks and a recipe for cookies

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tank-man:

why would you transcode your tv shows in flv ?

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achew22:

they are playable in a flash window

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J-e-f-f-A:

achew22: There is a new version of mythstreamtv that works with .20 – Doesn't use flash video, but does wmv and div3 (iirc) pretty well...

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J-e-f-f-A:

achew22: And it could probably be 'adapted' to work with flash without a ton of work...

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achew22:

I don't care so much about the flash... just that it streams

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xris:

the two main/popular ones are are licensed under creative commons "required attribution", and the other is apache licensed.

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xris:

FLV player, not shockwave flash player.

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xris:

i.e. an swf file to actually play the video

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achew22:

oh.. thats too bad. Is it a hard application to write?

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xris:

if you want to muck with it, there are instructions in the commit message (and I think the stream handler.pl file) for which one to grab, etc.

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xris:

no clue. I don't know anything about flash

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achew22:

would you like me to ask one of my flash friends?

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xris:

If I don't have something by the summer, and if mythtv participates again (unfortunately doesn't look likely), I'll add it as a SoC project

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xris:

sure. I put out a request on both mailing lists, but didn't get much of a reply.

[04:02:17]

doc|home:

anyone found flags for nuvexport that are a good (for them) match between time vs quality?

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xris:

doc|home: the defaults.. but then again, I set them. :)

[04:04:39]

xris:

(actually, I use h.264 multipass now, which isn't a default)

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doc|home:

hmmm, ok

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xris:

depends on too many other variables.

[04:05:26]

doc|home:

well, yeah :)

[04:05:27]

xris:

input/output resolution, denoise, etc.

[04:05:37]

xris:

and input/output codec

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doc|home:

that's why I was wondering about flags

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xris:

what format are you trying to export to?

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J-e-f-f-A:

xris: do you do that for your ipod, or for 'regular' recordings?

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doc|home:

xvid is fine, not pushed really.

[04:07:58]

xris:

J-e-f-f-A: both.

[04:08:07]

xris:

though I don't really watch much on my ipod

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xris:

doc|home: when I was doing xvid, I found that --transcode produced the best looking output, and I used the default settings, with the addition of multipass.

[04:08:36]

xris:

it's SLOW, though.

[04:09:05]

xris:

denoise and deinterlace are at your discression against the quality of your recordings. denoise will REALLY slow things down, but is good for many analog recordings.

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doc|home:

hmmm, right

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doc|home:

thanks for the info

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xris:

many of my settings, like crop, resolution, etc depend on the show I'm exporting, so you might want to examine the --profile stuff in more recent versions.

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doc|home:

will do, thanks

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J-e-f-f-A:

yes

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J-e-f-f-A:

onewheelskyward: Can also cause your PC to boot an alternate os if you've got a drive on a usb adapter...

[04:31:13]

onewheelskyward:

The strange thing is that it's not even in my boot order.

[04:31:29]

onewheelskyward:

I just kept getting 'invalid system disk' until I unplugged it.

[04:32:10]

J-e-f-f-A:

onewheelskyward: I once thought my pc had crashed because it said the same thing... until I realized I had somebody else's hdd hooked up via a usb-ide adapter... I swore at the computer and re-booted it 5x before I realized it was the usb drive...

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onewheelskyward:

J-e-f-f-A: That's what I just did, except I rebooted it 3 times and downloaded a gentoo min install disk to rescue my boot partition. :)

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achew22:

the option to have mythcommercialflag run when the tv show starts, where is that checkbox?

[04:33:44]

J-e-f-f-A:

onewheelskyward: If I was a bios engineer, I'd update the message to identify the boot device — ie: "IDE0: Invalid system disk" or "USB0: Invalid system disk"... that would make it perfectly clear...

[04:34:04]

onewheelskyward:

Yeah no kidding. Or put USB in the BIOS boot order for clarity and prioritization.

[04:34:37]

J-e-f-f-A:

onewheelskyward: I think USB is covered in the "Try other boot devices" option... (not very clear either!)

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J-e-f-f-A:

onewheelskyward: But what else would you expect — many bioses are written by the same folks who came up with "ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US"... ;-)

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Dr_willis:

onewheelskyward, ive seen usb gizmos cause all sort of weird things

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onewheelskyward:

haha

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onewheelskyward:

those silly bit-bangers.

[04:37:07]

onewheelskyward:

Or, 'those silly low-budget outsourced translation houses.'

[04:37:32]

J-e-f-f-A:

yep. But who needs them? we've got world.altavista.com now... ;-)

[04:38:07]

onewheelskyward:

Now that we have that settled, what happened to my laundry quarters?

[04:38:31]

J-e-f-f-A:

onewheelskyward: You mean you don't use slugs? ;-)

[04:38:56]

onewheelskyward:

I tried leeches once. Didn't work out so well.

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Dr_willis:

just let the leeches disolve under your tounge....

[04:39:23]

Dr_willis:

repeate 3x a day

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J-e-f-f-A:

eek!

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achew22:

they disolve?

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Dr_willis:

:)

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Dr_willis:

was on some Skit i saw once about Medivle Doctors.

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achew22:

clever...

[04:40:05]

Dr_willis:

"Here just stuff this baby goat down your trowsers"

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Dr_willis:

:)

[04:40:21]

Dr_willis:

"We now know that coughing is caused by breathing!"

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** clever slaps achew22 **

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achew22:

next time someone complains about their cough I think I'm going to recommend that

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achew22:

oops... sorry clever

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achew22:

didn't know you had a cool name

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clever:

:P

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achew22:

that really threw me for a loop... I was really impressed by Dr_willis because he got a raw message as an admin to /me slap achew22 in this channel but this is even better

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achew22:

clever, do you get that a lot?

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clever:

sometimes:P

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[SA]Pooky:

Can I do other things while mythdvd is ripping a dvd

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Dr_willis:

"Why did you smack me with a Trout?" – 'Because the mackeral wasent fresh!'

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doc|work:

no! don't touch your computer!

[04:42:12]

** doc|work jokes **

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achew22:

[SA]Pooky, I haven't ever had anything go wrong but it will make your computer run really slow and you will not want to use your computer

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[SA]Pooky:

How do I get out of this screen without canceling it?

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achew22:

first, what screen is "this?"

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clever:

probly the dvd riping one

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achew22:

he could be using an old version with the web interface

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achew22:

oh wait — that was mythburn that had the web interface... thats the wrong direction for the data to flow

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achew22:

[SA]Pooky, I don't think you can, just cancle it and do it again. Or you can start another instance of mythfrontend

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mahr:

Hello, Im having a problem with my sound in mythtv. I have to toggle the sound settings to get sound working when I watch tv

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doc|home:

mahr: toggle?

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doc|home:

mahr: I can't get mythtv to do anything with the sound. Need to manipulate sound completely separately from it :/

[04:58:07]

mahr:

yeah It works but I have to change the settings from default or default to alsa

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mahr:

I mean from alsa to default or default to alsa

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mahr:

doesnt mtter which but Ihave to toggle it when I start it

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doc|home:

hmmm

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doc|home:

let me try that

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mahr:

like I just went to set up a recording now and I lost the sound so all I did was toggle the passthrough setting in the setup menu

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doc|home:

hmmm, I don't get alsa as an option

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mahr:

are you using alsa as your sound drivers? if you are you can just type it in even if its not on the drop down menu

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doc|home:

nope, still not working

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mahr:

so is there an alternative way for sound like porting it in from my cable box? rather then using the tunerr card to get sound

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** doc|home doesn't know **

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onewheelskyward:

mahr: There may be, but you could run into audio sync issues with that. There may be a way to address that.

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onewheelskyward:

Actually there has to be, since myth can record from svidio and composite, neither of which has an audio input.

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tha_toadman:

can someone tell me if 'mytharchive' works very well

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achew22:

tha_toadman, I like mytharchive a lot. it does everything I want and more

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tha_toadman:

cool – glad to hear it – i'm trying to archive files the hard way (through networking) and they seem to keep coming up corrupt or else 'time out' in the xfer

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tha_toadman:

i'm using ubuntu for the backend – is it something that i can 'apt-get' ?

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tha_toadman:

i may have asked to soon – it's appears as though i can

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clever:

apt-cache search backup

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clever:

grep can be used to limit the results further

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clever:

apt-cache search backup|grep -i util

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clever:

-i makes grep case insensitive so util and Util and UTIL will match

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clever:

and you can get alot more info on a package using something like

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clever:

apt-cache show mythtv

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clever:

if your on ubuntu 6.06 youll see the info for mythtv 0.18

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clever:

horibly out of date:P

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tha_toadman:

no – i'm using 6.10

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clever:

ahh:)

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tha_toadman:

:-D

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clever:

my upgrade to 6.06 is a mess

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tha_toadman:

bummer :-/

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clever:

so im not going to risk upgrading more and making it worse:P

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clever:

irssi core dumps when i /exit

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clever:

drive is 99.9% full:P

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clever:

i allready hit 0 bytes multiple times DURRING the upgrade to 6.06:P

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clever:

dont know how it managed to finish without any major problems

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tha_toadman:

hmm..interesting

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tha_toadman:

well i'm content – i just updated apt-get and now it's installed

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clever:

:)

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tha_toadman:

will have to burn my shows to dvd tomorrow

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clever:

to upgrade the entire ubuntu you need to replace the sources.list and apt-get dist-upgrade which could easily go horibly wrong:P

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immolo:

clever- there is a gui that does it for you

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immolo:

but it's not without its problems

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clever:

and that crashed 100% of the time i tryed to use it:P

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clever:

and it didnt even explain what it was

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clever:

just said LTS

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immolo:

strange I've upgraded 6 or 7 ubunutu desktops thats way

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clever:

which acording to google was linux terminal services

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clever:

lts==long term service

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clever:

one of the releases which they will continue supporting even after its several releases old

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clever:

this is my first ubuntu box

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clever:

2nd is the mythtv backend and mysql server for tons of other things

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tha_toadman:

i'm off to bed – thanks for the help clever

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clever:

later:)

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nosun:

hows all?

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nosun:

installing mythknoppix;P

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nosun:

installing plugins is easy?

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nosun:

how has that donating cpu cycles thing been working out?

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nosun:

atleast to me its a better cause then trying to find where's ET:P

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Ediehow:

hi

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Ediehow:

i want to upload something i recorded to youtube, what should i nuvexport the file to?

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Ediehow:

what format?

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kormoc:

whatever youtube wants?

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Ediehow:

kormoc: ...........

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feld:

anyone here on Ubuntu Edgy with an nvidia card?

[07:17:13]

onewheelskyward:

feld: I did that once.

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feld:

onewheelskyward: my Xorg has high cpu usage

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hooch:

is myth suitable for a tv front end to watching avi's and stuff?

[07:18:39]

feld:

i dont know why

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feld:

it's rather annoying

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hooch:

or is it heavily weighted towards recording? (i don't want to do any recording)

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nosun:

my mythbox acting funny gonna maybe reburn cd and reinstall tommorow

[07:19:25]

nosun:

issue is with the remote not working and also dvd's not playing;P

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kormoc:

hooch, it works well enough with mythvideo, but it is quite weighted towards recording

[07:19:55]

onewheelskyward:

feld: I gave up on ubuntu after a day. The package management was a little goofy, and myth had unexplainable problems.

[07:20:15]

feld:

haha onewheelskyward :P

[07:20:17]

feld:

Gentoo user?

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onewheelskyward:

feld: Yeah, although I turned my back on gentoo to try FC6 and ubuntu. I ended up back with gentoo...I just never try to emerge -u world anymore. :)

[07:20:48]

feld:

I've enjoyed Gentoo. It's got advantages.

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onewheelskyward:

feld: and I never update udev.

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hooch:

thanks kormoc. are there other programs around just for browsing and playing avi/mp3/etc?

[07:22:15]

kormoc:

Heh, at times I wonder if i'm just blessed. udev updates have always gone smoothly

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kormoc:

hooch, I've heard that freevo is nice, but it's all second hand

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hooch:

ok thanks

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nosun:

wow power worked:P

[07:22:57]

nosun:

or shutdown:P

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onewheelskyward:

I had to reinstall once because udev locked up on boot with no errors.

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nosun:

using mythknoppix;P

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kormoc:

onewheelskyward, never have to reinstall! That's what the livecd is for! :P

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nosun:

goodnights

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onewheelskyward:

heh heh. Nice. :)

[07:23:43]

onewheelskyward:

Sometimes it's quicker to start over.

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** kormoc wonders if onewheelskyward is talking bout the same gentoo he is **

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onewheelskyward:

Let me restate...sometimes the manual intervention portion of the reinstall is quicker than downloading the livecd and figuring out what's wrong. :)

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kormoc:

:P

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onewheelskyward:

the recompile takes days, of course. :)

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anykey_:

Someone knows a AC power switch that can be controlled over usb?

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hjohnson:

*sigh* I don't know what it is about baseball that I find attractive

[08:02:26]

anykey_:

I found something, but that only works with Windows and is too expensive..

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kormoc:

onewheelskyward, some ups's do have usb, and some use ethernet

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onewheelskyward:

Your UPS can have an IP? That must be nice for centralized management.

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kormoc:

aye, it's costly and considered server grade, but they exist

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anykey_:

onewheelskyward: well, I don't absolutly need something over IP, but I need to be able to control it from my backend. My STBs draw 20 watts power in standby mode, so I want to completly cut the power

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onewheelskyward:

woah yeah, I can see why you'd want to control that.

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anykey_:

It's stupid, 20 watts in standby, 22 when it's "on"

[08:13:17]

anykey_:

and I have 3 of them

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onewheelskyward:

That must be why england has been talking about making 'standby' modes illegal on things like TV's.

[08:14:05]

anykey_:

They just shutdown the video output and the LED in standby mode, the harddisk is still running, just that they can update the EPG, a thing I don't even want to use.

[08:14:30]

anykey_:

onewheelskyward: well, my TV draws 1.4 watts in standby, compared to 140 when it's on...

[08:14:50]

anykey_:

onewheelskyward: if those bastards at my cable company would just give out smartcards :|

[08:15:00]

onewheelskyward:

Have you looked at X-10 at all? They have all kinds of neat home automation stuff.

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t0ny-p40:

anykey_, check out x10

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onewheelskyward:

It's referenced in this page: http://www.bolis.com/amillar/computers/hardwa . . . power-switch

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t0ny-p40:

bah

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t0ny-p40:

I had a x10 unit control a light in my room that random people could switch on and off

[08:15:42]

t0ny-p40:

it lasted over a year

[08:15:55]

t0ny-p40:

then it started to murder any device I plugged into it

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anykey_:

t0ny-p40: do they have things for switzerland? :p

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t0ny-p40:

No idea

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onewheelskyward:

I just recently pulled my 7 yr old lamp modules out of storage, they still work well.

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t0ny-p40:

or you could wire them up to relays

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t0ny-p40:

if you like to work with 110v or 220v

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anykey_:

because our small country has to have other plugs than germany and so on...

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t0ny-p40:

why do they do that?

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t0ny-p40:

why not a world wide standard?

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anykey_:

well I think it's sort of a standard, but the plugs don't match if you need a grounded one

[08:17:40]

anykey_:

the ungrounded works..

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onewheelskyward:

Well, good luck anykey. I'm heading out for the night.

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mau:

anybody use vlc here?

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anykey_:

mau: not in mythvideo, but on my desktop..

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doc|work:

anyone know is it possible to save to a different format than nuv by default?

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kormoc:

get a card that outputs mpeg2 by default and it's .mpg

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doc|work:

like a 350 or 500?

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kormoc:

aye

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doc|work:

and no way with a 150? nuvexport's a pain

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kormoc:

the 150 should as well

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kormoc:

unless you have a old version of myth

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kormoc:

or are transcoding to mpeg-4

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doc|work:

hmmm, how do I check?

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Dibblah:

Growf. 512Mb isn't enough for a 1440x900 display :(

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benklop:

anybody here run mythtv on a xen domU or maybe on a vmware virtual machine?

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eulin:

hi all

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eulin:

How I can see mythtv fullscreen with compiz(aiglx)?

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Machtin:

hi there

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Machtin:

that wiki seems to be broken :o

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Dibblah:

Okay. Let's try Blootube-wide now I have a widescreen display :)

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Dibblah:

768Mb should be enough, right? :)

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rsdvd:

Dibblah : shoudl be! but if you want to watch TV at the same time you might need another couple of Gig :-)

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** rsdvd ducks before juski throws something **

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Dibblah:

That'll be a no, actually :(

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rsdvd:

I run blootude-wide on a EPIA with 512Mb

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Dibblah:

... With swap.

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rsdvd:

there is swap – but is rarely touches it

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Dibblah:

Sure. I'm netbooted – So swap is an interesting proposition.

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Dibblah:

Too many failure modes with NBD :(

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rsdvd:

I take it back – it is using loads of swap – just never noticed :-)

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Dibblah:

Heh.

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Dibblah:

"loads"?

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rsdvd:

currently about 100mb of swap

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rsdvd:

I think the 'lite' verison might be better if you are memory challenged

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Dibblah:

Yeah, probably.

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Dibblah:

But then where's the point in a cheap HD TV? :)

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Machtin:

how to launch the master-backend?

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Dibblah:

Machtin: mythbackend

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Machtin:

as mythtv or as root?

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Dibblah:

I don't know. That's just a wild stab in the dark, of course.

[12:02:28]

Dibblah:

You may be better following one of the setup guides ;)

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Dibblah:

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Dibblah:

Tiny, tiny little bit excessive ;)

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Machtin:

woah :(

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rsdvd:

shhh – juski is back

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Machtin:

uh? :)

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rsdvd:

blootube-wide theme was written by juski

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Dibblah:

Yup. Very nicely, I might add.

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Machtin:

well.. i added some drivers to my kernel. and i want to test if my nexus-s works now

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Machtin:

how to? :/

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Dibblah:

szap.

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juski:

Dibblah: blootubelite-wide ftw!

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Machtin:

*install*

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Dibblah:

Indeed.

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Dibblah:

I like it... All. I want it a little... Thinner, though :)

[12:09:17]

Dibblah:

Without, of course, losing the lovely hi-res images.

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Dibblah:

So I'm pretty screwed :)

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juski:

lol

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juski:

simply (ha!) patch myth to compress the bitmaps in memory – win win!

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Machtin:

so, what can szap do for me now?

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Dibblah:

Machtin: Not a lot on it's own. You need to generate a channels.conf using dvbscan.

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Machtin:

okay

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Dibblah:

And I'd seriously suggest googling for a guide.

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Dibblah:

This is all pretty simple stuff :)

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Machtin:

hmhh hardly.. i have completely no clue about dvb really..

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Machtin:

nor about linux.. :D

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Dibblah:

juski: Oh. Tiny problem on the watch recordings screen with live preview.

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juski:

hmmm?

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Dibblah:

The description is about 10 pix into the preview.

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juski:

ah

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rsdvd:

juski : I am getting further with the S100.......I now have it booting and showing the myth splash screen then it stops with (EE) I810(0): No Video BIOS modes for chosen depth.

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juski:

Dibblah: I think I've fixed that already but havent rolled it into a tarball yet

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Dibblah:

:)

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juski:

anyway if not I'll scrape it up in the next update

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juski:

rsdvd: xorg problemo :)

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rsdvd:

juski : yes – but I cannot work out what the depth/Mode shoudl be – I have tried all the ones I can thing of and I get he saem message

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Machtin:

can't find dvbscan Dibblah :o

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juski:

hmmm can't find dvbscan

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juski:

hmmm can't find dvbscan

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juski:

hmmm can't find dvbscan

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juski:

hmmm can't find dvbscan

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juski:

http://www.google.co.uk/search?client=firefox . . . oogle+Search

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juski:

:-O

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juski:

your search powers are weak, young emo

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rsdvd:

lol

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rsdvd:

are there any Xorg gurus around who canhelp me isolate this "(EE) I810(0): No Video BIOS modes for chosen depth." problem :-(

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juski:

let's see the xorg.conf

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rsdvd:

It has been changed many times – I included your "Device" section and tried it with the default one

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juski:

rsdvd: maybe the 720x576 mode isn't supports in the driver

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juski:

*supported*, even

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rsdvd:

I have tried it as 800x600 and most other modes I can think of – and at varying depths (16/32/64 etc)

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juski:

don't think there's much call for 64-bit colour yet

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juski:

what's in the xorg.log ?

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rsdvd:

I was wildy changing things – hoping one woudl work :-)

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rsdvd:

www.phil-home.com/Xorg.0.log

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juski:

hrm. need a cig then I'll have another look this arvo

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rsdvd:

lol...I thought you gave up?

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juski:

nah. look for some other reason for me being so evilly nasty ;)

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rsdvd:

lol

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rsdvd:

5060005701550

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rsdvd:

oops wrong windows

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Machtin:

it's not in the repos it seems and i can't find a .deb

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juski:

download it from linuxtv.org & build it yourself then

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Machtin:

hmhh kay

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Machtin:

and which packet would that be?

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Machtin:

cause when i click downloads i just get an ftp-index

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juski:

dvb-utils possibly

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juski:

you on ubunut?

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juski:

in ubunut, scan is part of dvb-utils

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Machtin:

nope, debian

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juski:

as is szap, tzap & czap

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juski:

debian prolly has it in dvb-utils aswell

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Machtin:

nope

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juski:

apt-cache search dvb

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juski:

that'll show you packages likely to contain it

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Machtin:

i had to download dvb-utils for szap.. but dvbscan isn't included

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juski:

it's just called 'scan' sometimes

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Machtin:

that's it :) thanksie

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quicksilver:

sounds like your card driver isn't loaded

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Machtin:

hmm

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Machtin:

it should be in the kernel

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Machtin:

ah, might be a module.. sorry

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Machtin:

how to find out which module to load o.O

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Machtin:

or more like.. what is the module's name i want to load? i think one is AV7110 <- something like that

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Machtin:

and dvb core support :o

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rsdvd:

juski : have you had your ciggie ;-)

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quicksilver:

Machtin: check out the hardware compatibility matrix on teh wiki

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quicksilver:

that should tell you which module to load

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Machtin:

the wiki from the topic?

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Machtin:

cause on that one i get database errors

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quicksilver:

really? ouch

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r3z`:

Ok something weird is going on.

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quicksilver:

it works for me

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quicksilver:

the mythtv wiki, not the beirdo one

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r3z`:

I go into my recordings and it only shows like 3 shows all CSI/

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quicksilver:

Machtin: DVB-T, S or C?

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r3z`:

I go into manager recordings and then previously recorded it shows all my programs.

[13:16:59]

r3z`:

Go into manage recordings and only the 3 csi showw.

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r3z`:

all the mpgs are there.

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r3z`:

Anyone have any ideas?

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Machtin:

quicksilver: S

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Machtin:

but okay, i tried the beirdo wiki

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quicksilver:

Machtin: poke around here too http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-S_devices

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r3z`:

Also all the recordings show up in the web interface.

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Machtin:

kk thx

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r3z`:

quicksilver, my man you got any ideas?

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r3z`:

im running a mythfilldatabase but I doubt it will do the trick.

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r3z`:

zap2it seems slow this morning ;)

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r3z`:

Anyone got ideas? I dont want to have to export them all and drop the in the videos section that would be crappy.

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r3z`:

Ok hrm strange

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r3z`:

I was in the settings and found there was a set to go to the Crime Drama profile or something.

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r3z`:

Cleared that to all programs and wham we are in business.

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fryfrog:

anyone here use "WD3200JD" (320G WD drive, SATA I)

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fryfrog:

and looking to upgrade?

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rsdvd:

juski : I have managed to get X working now :-)

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rsdvd:

but 'watch tv' died with out of memory....and the scart don;t work

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Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v stuarta

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stuarta:

afternoon...

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fryfrog:

hi sir!

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fryfrog:

do *you* use WD drives?

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stuarta:

er no

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fryfrog:

damnit, who was i talking to like 2 weeks ago :(

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stuarta:

check the logs maybe?

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fryfrog:

oh yeah, searchable logs

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fryfrog:

erm, happen to recall the url? doesn't appear to be in topic

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fryfrog:

oh

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fryfrog:

onjoin :)

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Beirdo:

MythLogBot, notice

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MythLogBot:

This channel (#mythtv-users) is logged — http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/ircLog/channel/1

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fryfrog:

humm, Beirdo is that searchable?

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fryfrog:

i see the ability to look at certain days :/

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Beirdo:

yes. Hmmmm. xris did implement a search I thought, one sec

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fryfrog:

not having much with google and "site:mythtv.beirdo.ca" :(

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hardnova:

hi

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Beirdo:

heh

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Beirdo:

or try

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Beirdo:

MythLogBot, help

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Beirdo:

MythLogBot, list

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Beirdo:

MythLogBot, help search

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Beirdo:

it will reply in private messages only. THere's a web interface to that too, but it's not linked in yet

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fryfrog:

looks like it was maybe fysa?

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Beirdo:

http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/ircLog/search?s=whatever

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fryfrog:

MythLogBot: search WD3200JD

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fryfrog:

pretty sure it was fysa now :)

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Beirdo:

find it?

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Beirdo:

hehe

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Beirdo:

goood

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hardnova:

im getting a problem with the yum install myth-suite

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hardnova:

Transaction Check Error: file /usr/lib/libavcodec.so.51 conflicts between attempted installs of ffmpeg-libs-0.4.9–0.34.20070204.lvn6 and libavcodec51–0.4.9–19_r7407.fc6.at

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Beirdo:

I guess once we both have time, both xris and I have a touch of work to do to the bot. He did the web side :)

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hardnova:

what does this mean ?

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fryfrog:

I'm going to swap my dual xeon *fe* with my amd64 3000+ *be*

[14:49:03]

fryfrog:

hardnova: that your pkg manager doesn't like what you are doing?

[14:49:41]

fryfrog:

and stick my pci tuners *and* firewire STBs on the *same* server

[14:49:44]

stuarta:

means exactly what it says. library conflict between 2 differenc packages

[14:50:46]

hardnova:

fryfrog there is a correct answer and that basicly was not it

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hardnova:

i disabled livna repo and its worked fine now :)

[14:51:36]

fryfrog:

well, good luck figuring it out then

[14:51:43]

fryfrog:

awesome!

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fryfrog:

i wonder where you can find 5.25" -> 3.5" drive bay adapters?

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opello:

heh i have a stack of those from old drives that came with them, and parting out old machines

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hardnova:

in my cupboard

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fryfrog:

humm, i could throw in 2 hotswap bays in the 2 open 5.25 slots

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fysa:

I use WD drives.

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fysa:

fryfrog. you probably want the cheap Coolermaster 3 -> 4.

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fysa:

not hotswap, but dirt dirt cheap.

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stuarta:

horiz

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fysa:

drives are horitonal

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fysa:

it doesn't stack them as nicely as the $120 one from SuperMicro.

[15:05:19]

fryfrog:

oh?

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fysa:

but it has a huge fan and is dirt cheap.

[15:05:34]

fryfrog:

well, i has only got 2 5.25 bays open :(

[15:07:29]

fryfrog:

i only really *want* 2 more drives if anything

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fysa:

ah

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fryfrog:

I have 8x nicely vented bays for 2.5

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fryfrog:

er, 3.5

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fysa:

wow, nice

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fysa:

oo, they have a 2x 5" -> 3x 3"

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daviey:

Anybody here using a dvb-s card in the uk?

[15:12:40]

fryfrog:

i wonder how much the hotswap sata bays are for my server

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GreyFoxx:

janneg: We use those same 5 drive shells

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GreyFoxx:

very handy

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fryfrog:

oh, hey newegg has those "icy docks" things

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GreyFoxx:

how much do they sell them for ?

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fysa:

they need one with an internal port multiplier ;)

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fryfrog:

looks like the 3 drive on is $80

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fryfrog:

how can you know if your sata ports can use a port multiplier?

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GreyFoxx:

We've got a pile of the 5 drive ones

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fryfrog:

and does it have the same perf drawback in raid array as having a master and slave on the same channel?

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fryfrog:

5x is $115

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fysa:

port multiplier in PCI-Express will saturate the bus reasonably well

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GreyFoxx:

Can;t say I've ever had any problems no matter what machine I put them in, but I have never put it in amachine older than 1.5 years old

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fryfrog:

I've only got 3x 5.25 bays and one of them is the dvd :(

[15:19:44]

fryfrog:

GreyFoxx: a port multiplyer you mean? or this icydock?

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GreyFoxx:

icydock

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fryfrog:

ah

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fysa:

The sil_3124 gives you 2 extendable ports, I don't know of others.

[15:20:01]

fryfrog:

i don't see how it could be a problem? it's really just a passive thing

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janneg:

danm, they are more expensive in germany

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janneg:

5x is around 120 Eur

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fysa:

and then you can use these.

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clever:

one of my dvd's has very weak volume

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clever:

thru ALL of the volumes

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fryfrog:

fysa: what about performance? does it bother em?

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clever:

and when i turn the tv up enough i also boost the noise in the wires

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fysa:

well, PCI-Express will get you 1GB/s+

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clever:

and both pcm and master are at 100

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fysa:

so I've heard that you can run 10 drives through one slot with the multiplier and have it still be very good performance.

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fryfrog:

i see

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clever:

mythtv@theP4:~$ mplayer dvd://0 -softvol -softvol-max 10000 -ss 200 -volstep 1

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clever:

that fixes it and now with the volume near 2 its bars its blaring loud:P

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clever:

but i beleive it also eats cpu

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fryfrog:

looks like you need a $100 sata card to have any hope of port mulitiplier, so i'll just go with a pair of 4 port pci sata cards for $15 each :)

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janneg:

the jmicron controller pata+sata on newer intel boards supports port multipliers

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janneg:

but only in a inefficient way

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fryfrog:

its going to be installed in an older, asus pc-dl deluxe board

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fryfrog:

it has 2 sata ports, based on an older intel chipset

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janneg:

jmb361 and jmb363, I think they are also some cheap cards, only PCIe iirc though. but the support only command based switching

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janneg:

this is only useful then you need the space and not the speed of multiple drives behing the multiplexer

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fryfrog:

This board doesn't even have any pci-e slots :(

[15:33:32]

janneg:

the sil3132 supports frame based switching

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janneg:

but is also PCIe

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fryfrog:

looks like a 1 slot is like $10–15, a 3 slot is like $80 :p

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janneg:

and I haven't seen cards using the sil3132

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kslater:

has anyone done any transcoding of HD OTA shows to DVD format? And preserved the AC 5.1 sound?

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mishehu:

kslater: I'm not completely sure, but I thought that the OTA that I recorded off of my dct 6200 firewire had a/52 stereo, not a/52 5.1.

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fryfrog:

mishehu: prolly depends on the show?

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mishehu:

maybe it was just that the channel doesn't broadcast the a/52 5.1...

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mishehu:

fryfrog: show or perhaps station too?

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** mishehu doesn't know. **

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fryfrog:

yeah, could be

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mishehu:

kslater: but it is possible to retain that a/52 stream indeed. I've done it before with other files too.

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daviey:

Anybody here using the Elonex Artisan?

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juski:

fwaaaaaaaaaaaah is it hometime yet?

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daviey:

no, get back to work

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** Beirdo rattles juski's chain **

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Beirdo:

you ain't leaving yet, slave :)

[15:51:05]

juski:

yeah rub it in why dontcha ;)

[15:51:24]

Beirdo:

yeah, hopefully I'll have the same problem soon

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rsdvd:

juski : can you remember any tricks for getting the scart working on this thing?

[15:51:54]

juski:

rsdvd: you using the IEGD already?

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rsdvd:

not suer – it was installed inthe minimyth build

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juski:

I can't think straight atm

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juski:

been building an LED panel for the CEO

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rsdvd:

I know that feeling – I am doing all this ontop of a hangiver

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Beirdo:

eek.

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juski:

300 white LEDs

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fryfrog:

damnit, i want more WD3200JDs!

[15:53:36]

Beirdo:

make sure you don't put the LEDs in backwards strategically to say "fuck you" when it's on

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rsdvd:

lol

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juski:

never mind the proper work I have to do, this was 'urgent'

[15:54:02]

Beirdo:

bosses are all alike, it seems

[15:54:05]

juski:

for a racing car no less

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daviey:

6 minutes to go

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Beirdo:

make it say "juski was here"

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Beirdo:

heh

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juski:

with the 'was' in bold

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juski:

;)

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juski:

I keep meaning to bring a satirical video in to work to show folks

[15:55:44]

daviey:

"If i had paid more for this car, i would be winning"

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hardnova:

anyone using fedora ?

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daviey:

hardnova, not likely – it blows

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juski:

it's a clip from the South Park movie where saddam is in bed with satan – only I'd Vegas'd a sales guy & a director into it

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Beirdo:

heheh

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hardnova:

daviey your not telling me something I dont know

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juski:

isn't blowing like the opposite of sucking?

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Beirdo:

every distro blows in its own way

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daviey:

haha; sorrry had a bad experience with fedora the other day

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hardnova:

lol

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fryfrog:

except gentoo, it has no flaws :)

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daviey:

juski, explain a 'job' where you blow; but infact suck

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hardnova:

i have some bad experiences with fedora every day

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juski:

daviey: I've never given one so I dunno :-P

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Beirdo:

so download another distro and try it if you hate fedora so much :)

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daviey:

maybe we can merge fedora/redhat with a debian based distro

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juski:

maybe you could call it NooBuntu ;)

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stuarta:

what and get something like umbongo?

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Beirdo:

bah

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Beirdo:

time for my fileserver to do breezy->dapper upgrade

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fryfrog:

dang, thats old school!

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Beirdo:

I don't upgrade frivolously :)

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fryfrog:

hehe

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Beirdo:

1055 upgraded, 193 newly installed, 43 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

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Beirdo:

Need to get 592MB of archives.

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Beirdo:

After unpacking 327MB of additional disk space will be used.

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Beirdo:

fukmi, this will take a while

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fryfrog:

why not go right to edgy?

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Beirdo:

no thanks

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fryfrog:

or woudl that be to much upgrade ?

[16:02:18]

Beirdo:

I want to try edgy first

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fryfrog:

ah, you have not even tried teh edgy?

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fryfrog:

i think your ubuntu feels neglected :(

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Beirdo:

and yeah, likely will be too much of an upgrade to be smooth

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Beirdo:

breezy->dapper is mostly smooth

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Beirdo:

haven't tried edgy yet

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fryfrog:

i tried a dapper -> edgy once...

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fryfrog:

it crapped its pants

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Beirdo:

heh

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fryfrog:

and since i didn't care about the system, i just installed edgy from scratch

[16:03:42]

fryfrog:

i think i'll reboot into ubuntu and bring my edgy up to date

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Beirdo:

I did breezy->dapper in a vservers setup. It was bitchy as hell and I had to hack the debs to upgrade it

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fryfrog:

bbiab!

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Beirdo:

it gacked as it couldn't mess with devfs

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clever_:

i this my audio card is weak

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clever_:

if the volume hits a certain peak

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clever_:

the card seems to wind up in a brownout

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clever_:

and the volume jumps between very low and normal

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clever_:

like the internal amps are out of power

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clever_:

ive hooked a volt metter up to the pc's 5V line

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clever_:

5.11

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clever_:

sometimes 5.10

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clever_:

jumpinh a bit between 5.10 and 5.12 but i havent heard a shortage yet in the audio

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** clever_ turns the volume up a great deal to drain the psu **

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clever_:

WHOA

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clever_:

loud enough to distort the video

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clever_:

seems the audio card isnt the cause of the shortage just a simptom

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Beirdo:

juski, you ever used gSchem?

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** clever_ wonders if Beirdo has seen stuff about power drains and audio cards **

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Beirdo:

never looked into such stuf

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clever_:

i have 2 audio cards in the box

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clever_:

1 is onboard

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Beirdo:

if your PSU can't power a simple audio amp, you got issues

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clever_:

volume just droped

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clever_:

but the 5V on the hdd plug hasnt changed

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clever_:

i think the audio amp isnt the cause of the power drain but a result of something else draining it

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clever_:

if 5 hdds spin up at once the draw may affect other stuff like audio amps

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clever_:

as an example

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clever_:

but i cant see what would be changing and causing that drain

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clever_:

and the 5V line didnt change in voltage at all durring the problem

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juski:

Beirdo: nah never used that. only pro packages & er.. Proteus

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Beirdo:

ah

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Beirdo:

was just looking for a free alternative to slap together a not-hand-drawn schematic

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clever_:

i have a prog for that somewhere

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clever_:

from win 3.11

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clever_:

:P

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Beirdo:

I have OrCAD 9 around somewhere, but no license key anymore

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Beirdo:

as I had it (legally) while I was working for Cadence

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jams:

ugh, who new adding a simple button to a setting screen would cause so much trouble.

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gardengnome:

Beirdo: check out eagle. it's made by the VDR guy, but it's not free as in freedom

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juski:

after playing with mythgallery trying to add a background element, I'd say it'd be trouble ;)

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juski:

there's a bug that needs fixed in that thar code methinks

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Beirdo:

gardengnome, got a URL?

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juski:

cadsoft Eagle ?

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jams:

juski- the button shows up, but connecting the button press to a slot is kicking me around.

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juski:

http://www.cadsoft.de/freeware.htm

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Beirdo:

worth a look ;)

[16:37:21]

Beirdo:

thanks

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jams:

would help if I really knew QT =)

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juski:

jams: heh. I need to find out why mythgallery segfaults when a theme element is missing instead of just reporting it missing like the code suggests it should

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Beirdo:

ooh, it will even make 2 layer board gerbers in the free version?

[16:38:16]

Beirdo:

nice

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gardengnome:

Beirdo: i hear it's not bad. but i can't say for sure because i'm not into that kind of sutff

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gardengnome:

stuff*

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** gardengnome is gonna get his hair cut for the first time in three.5 years now. wish me luck. **

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Beirdo:

never tried cadsoft's stuff before, but worth a try

[16:40:35]

Beirdo:

good luck, gardengnome. don't look at the pile on the floor

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jams:

alright, time to go back to feeling stupid

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** Beirdo used to have hair down to his waist, now shaves his head **

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juski:

oh goody. I have to order parts to make 20 prototype machines without a BOM to work from :(

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Dibblah:

Anyone seen h264 trailers just not working? Trying mythnews and the Google Video Movies Trailers....

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Dibblah:

Giving a "header not found" error...

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janneg:

Dibblah: can you give my a url?

[16:48:37]

Beirdo:

niiice

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Beirdo:

gSchem just segfaulted with a schematic half-done

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Beirdo:

I don't like it

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Dibblah:

janneg: I'll try. One sec...

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janneg:

Dibblah: not necessary, but which version did you choose?

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Dibblah:

I'm using MythNews, so there's no choice presented.

[16:51:38]

Dibblah:

The file is MPEG4 and appears to play in mplayer.

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Dibblah:

(no audio – FAAD)

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janneg:

probably the ipod version, and I get the same error, ffmpeg seems to work fine though

[16:57:51]

janneg:

let me check if my synced version plays it. It'll take a couple of minutes since it doesn't compile atm

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Dibblah:

Sure. Thanks!

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juski:

Dibblah: gonna look at blootube-wide in a sec

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Dibblah:

? I already am looking at it :)

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Dibblah:

Admittedly, not sourcewise.

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Beirdo:

gardengnome, thank you, much better :)

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juski:

Dibblah: which text did you say was overlapping the vid preview?

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Dibblah:

Description.

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Dibblah:

By about 8–10 pixels.

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juski:

not here it ain;t

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juski:

default font size?

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Dibblah:

Screen res is 1440 x 900...

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Dibblah:

Ah. Oops. Possibly set to big.

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juski:

I'll export this from my svn & tar it oop for ya

[17:15:30]

juski:

it might've overlapped at some point. can't remember – that many themes on the go ;)

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juski:

uploading it now

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juski:

you should really email me about stuff like this, with screenshots ;)

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gardengnome:

re

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juski:

!seen Kelerion

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MythLogBot:

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juski:

wow. not been in this year yet

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Dibblah:

!seen honest_politician

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MythLogBot:

honest_politician has not been seen here

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daMaestro:

am i able to use the svideo/composite in on my pvr-150 for video out?

[17:26:36]

GreyFoxx:

no

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Dr_willis:

thats a svideo IN ... so no..

[17:26:44]

GreyFoxx:

it's an input, not an output

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jams:

daMaestro- those connections are for video-in only

[17:26:51]

daMaestro:

yeah.. lame

[17:26:57]

daMaestro:

thanks.

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juski:

hate to see you trying to eat fella ;)

[17:27:07]

GreyFoxx:

hehehe

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Dr_willis:

i messed up and pluged the tv in to that port by mistake the other day.. instead of my video cards svdieos out. :)

[17:27:23]

daMaestro:

still it's like.. why have those ports on a card if they are not multi purpose

[17:27:35]

GreyFoxx:

daMaestro: uhhhhh

[17:27:51]

daMaestro:

GreyFoxx, so add a simple gpu and a little ram and you are all good

[17:27:52]

daMaestro:

lol

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daMaestro:

GreyFoxx, i'm just publicly bitching about the pvr-150 :-))

[17:28:13]

daMaestro:

GreyFoxx, i have not even tested it yet :-P

[17:28:21]

juski:

god I wish I still had my super-powers

[17:28:22]

Dr_willis:

for the $50 the 150 cost me.. i have no problems with it...

[17:28:36]

daMaestro:

i could not justify taking a day off work to build my mythbox

[17:28:52]

juski:

another one for my list anyway

[17:28:59]

daMaestro:

Dr_willis, yeah.. well radioshack screwed me.. i thought the one i bought came with a remote (and of course it doesn't)

[17:29:02]

jams:

well the button is now working, but making it collect all the parameters may be more then I want to do.

[17:29:21]

Dr_willis:

compusa had the ones with remote (2 kinds) over xmas on sale

[17:29:51]

** juski hides. mr CEO is on this floor **

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daMaestro:

well i had credit at radioshack because of a lame bluetooth headset i returned

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daMaestro:

what a pos

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jams:

hmm, maybe I will just forget the idea for now. A person would never need to test a new X config anyhow ;)

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rsdvd:

juski : are you stil making that LED display?

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hjohnson:

hmm.. I'm happy with how cool my system stays..

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hjohnson:

nothing in the machine is warmer than 35C

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hjohnson:

drives are cool, cpu is cool.

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onewheelskyward:

My cpu is rarely below 40. I think I might have over-done the thermal grease...it's probably acting like a thermal blanket.

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Dibblah:

Aha. I think I just found the reason for my bad issues with nbd for swap.

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clever:

Dibblah: whats it look like?

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Dibblah:

It's probably a good idea to swapoff before suspending.

[17:47:11]

clever:

lol

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clever:

yeah the network wont be usable when waking up

[17:47:33]

Dibblah:

No, that's not the issue, I think.

[17:47:34]

clever:

and it something needed is swaped out...

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Dibblah:

The NBD server seems to save some state.

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clever:

i just found nbd yesterday

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clever:

tryed using it to share hda6 directly

[17:48:22]

Dibblah:

Unfortunately, I can't get STR working with X up and running :(

[17:48:42]

Dibblah:

So I have to endure X + Myth starting up.

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fryfrog:

onewheelskyward: thermal paste should go on in a *razor* thin layer, as thin as you can get it

[17:48:45]

clever:

i shared hda6 while it was mounted

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fryfrog:

use a razor blade to spread it :/

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clever:

and tryed to readonly mount thru nbd

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clever:

and then both ends refuses to see hda6 as valid

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Dibblah:

fryfrog: I use a credit card.

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janneg:

Dibblah: no luck with the mp4 even with libav* revision 8088

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Dibblah:

Odd.

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clever:

looked like bad sectors

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fryfrog:

if i don't have a razor, i usually use some pc part :)

[17:49:24]

fryfrog:

like a pci slot cover :/

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onewheelskyward:

Good idea. It's just there to fill the microscopic gaps, right?

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Dibblah:

It's the demuxer that's having issues, I assume?

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fryfrog:

right

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janneg:

Dibblah: yes, I'll try ffplay

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janneg:

ffplay plays it

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daMaestro:

what are the reqs for a myth frontent?

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daMaestro:

could i build a little POS shuttle with a remote to do it all?

[17:55:32]

daMaestro:

frontend*

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onewheelskyward:

You sure could.

[17:55:39]

daMaestro:

cool.

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Zider:

daMaestro: a myth frontend doesn't need much unless you wnna play hdtv

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daMaestro:

the backend is on a fc6 x86_64 2GHz w/Gig of ram

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daMaestro:

*will be

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onewheelskyward:

I've had a combo fe/be on lesser hardware than shuttle puts out. Of course, I was using a hardware mpeg-2 codec.

[17:56:46]

daMaestro:

can i go budget line GPU? maybe even something intel (for the OSS driver)?

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daMaestro:

also, does anyone recommend using an xbox?

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daMaestro:

does it run live? or do you toast the box?

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Dr_willis:

daMaestro, i hear its not recocomended

[17:57:50]

Dr_willis:

just not enough power for a really good system any more

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daMaestro:

Dr_willis, does it just suxors?

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daMaestro:

Dr_willis, just for a frontend?

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Dr_willis:

thats what ive heard in here.. front end – its minimally useable..

[17:58:20]

daMaestro:

ok

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daMaestro:

Dr_willis, thanks.

[17:58:24]

Dr_willis:

of course if ya got one allready there...

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hjohnson:

Dr_willis: it's fine if you're just doing SD

[17:58:38]

daMaestro:

Dr_willis, yeah.. i have 2, and don't play xbox anymore

[17:58:38]

Dr_willis:

hjohnson, yea i was thinking that also...

[17:58:42]

hjohnson:

SD doesn't take any more CPU power today than it did last year.

[17:58:44]

daMaestro:

yes.. just SD

[17:58:57]

** daMaestro learns the lingo **

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Dr_willis:

I tend to play videos :) not recordings.. so not even sure what "*D" they are in.

[17:59:38]

daMaestro:

well, there is no way to take advantage of the embedded mpeg2 stuff on the box?

[17:59:49]

daMaestro:

nor the hardware dvd decoder?

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** daMaestro makes the assumption that is how MS did the license for DVD playback **

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trentster:

Hey all, I changed my default video player to xine instead of mplayer, all works well except the volume is on 0% when i start a movie, and when i increase the volume on the remote it goes up 1 block increment at a time, and have to press the up volume like 30 times just to get it to half way...

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trentster:

any ideas?

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xris:

I believe that xine volume uses the PCM volume, and I know that it resets it to the previous state when it exits.

[18:04:05]

xris:

you might also want to try using the "internal" player instead of xine or mplayer.

[18:04:32]

trentster:

xris, the internal player?

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daMaestro:

ffmpeg?? lol

[18:05:01]

trentster:

xris, also how do i get the volume to increase in bigger increments?

[18:05:15]

daMaestro:

trentster, i would expect that is a lirc config

[18:05:24]

xris:

trentster: I would guess that's in your lirc config, but don't know for sure

[18:05:26]

daMaestro:

trentster, i'm a n00b

[18:05:29]

trentster:

xris, sorry also neglected to mention im using knoppmyth

[18:05:35]

daMaestro:

ahh.. so i might have guessed correct

[18:05:43]

daMaestro:

trentster, is it readonly?

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Beirdo:

clever, I should have my IR transmit/receiver schematic done shortly :)

[18:06:06]

xris:

trentster: see if you have a ~/.lircrc file

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clever:

Beirdo: :)

[18:06:36]

clever:

one of my current minor problems

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clever:

i cant use the mythtv keyboard to turn the tv on

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trentster:

xris, gonna have a look, just ssh'ng into the myth box

[18:07:11]

clever:

one way to fix it is to use irexec to send the TV's power signal when mythtv hears its remote power button

[18:07:21]

clever:

but i dont have the code for my tv or a ir receiver yet

[18:07:43]

xris:

Beirdo: working on a new/better one than lirc.org?

[18:07:53]

clever:

i got alt+f3 set to run an irsend in my windowmanager but dont have the code for it to send

[18:07:55]

Beirdo:

yes

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Beirdo:

it works from my laptop :)

[18:08:18]

clever:

also im trying to post my laptop video board atm

[18:08:21]

Beirdo:

it's kinda a combo of the lirc.org one and that other one... which name I forget

[18:08:22]

clever:

it crashed a bit

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Beirdo:

iguanasoft or something

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trentster:

xris, yes ive got .lircrc

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trentster:

xris, got a xine# increment audio volume"

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trentster:

xris, it says "repeat 3"

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xris:

that's an IR control setting

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xris:

you want that (it has to do with then number of acceptable repeat signals from the remote)

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trentster:

xris, hmmm so where do i set the sensitivity?

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xris:

you may not be able to

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xris:

what is the xine command issued for the volume increase button?

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trentster:

xris, begin button = Volume-UP prog = xine repeat = 3 config = Volume+end

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trentster:

xris, thats it

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xris:

yup.. sounds to me like it can't be helped

[18:15:25]

xris:

I still recommend that you try "internal" for your video player

[18:15:26]

trentster:

xris, do you reccomend a different player

[18:19:19]

anykey_:

Anyone knows which file contains the menu that is showed while watching tv?

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xris:

juski/justinh would, but he's not around (probably out drinking like a good brit)

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anykey_:

I thought so..

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jams:

anykey_- are you talking about the osd items in the upper left corner?

[18:22:54]

anykey_:

jams: no, I'm talking about the thingy that pops up when you press 'm'

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trentster:

xris, does knoppmyth have the internal player, how do i check, and why do u reccomend it?

[18:24:05]

xris:

it's built into mythtv .19 and later, so it should be there.

[18:24:10]

jams:

anykey_- yes your talking about the osd items

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jams:

those are hardcoded in the source

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xris:

I recommend it because it's mythtv's internal player.

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anykey_:

jams: oh cool :/

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xris:

anyway, sorry to cut short. I need to head into work now.

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jams:

it's the only "menu item" that is not XML

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trentster:

xris, thanks for the help, what the binary for the internal player called?

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gardengnome:

trentster: you just write "internal" or "Internal" into that text box

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jams:

pretty sure it's Internal

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trentster:

gardengnome, thanks, does it not need any other command line variables like " %s"

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gardengnome:

trentster: afaik not

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trentster:

gardengnome, just wanted to know what the binary was, cause there seems to be no " internal " on the system...

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anykey_:

trentster: it's no binary

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anykey_:

trentster: it's internal.

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trentster:

anykey_, ok, so what is the internal player called that runs the video file, ie vlc, etc?

[18:28:35]

anykey_:

I don't know, it's the same player that is used to play back live tv

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trentster:

anykey_, thats mplayer as far as I know

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anykey_:

trentster: I doubt, I don't have mplayer installed on my system..

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trentster:

hmmmm..ok......

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rsdvd:

Hi All – does anyone know what this means from xorg.log (EE) Failed to load module "shadow" (module does not exist, 0)

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fryfrog:

rsdvd: where do you have "shadow" in your xorg.conf? cause like it says, i don't think its an xorg module

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rsdvd:

fryfrog : that is the problem – I don;t have an reference to "shadow" in my xorg.conf

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fryfrog:

you sure?

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rsdvd:

very.....I have been trying to hunt this down for hours

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fryfrog:

`grep "shadow" /etc/X11/xorg.conf`

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rsdvd:

nothing!

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fryfrog:

humm, odd :/

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fryfrog:

what stuff comes up in the same area?

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fryfrog:

in the log i mean

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rsdvd:

I can't understnad this at all

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rsdvd:

nothing else of interest

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rsdvd:

I had this minimyth working earlier – and I did something (I don;t kow what) and now I get this

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fryfrog:

i can't load that url for some reason :/

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fryfrog:

ah, there it goes

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gardengnome:

rsdvd: is that minimyth on the s100?

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rsdvd:

gardengnome : yes! I had it working earlier

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gardengnome:

rsdvd: you rock! :)

[18:47:37]

rsdvd:

well not yet – I have not got the scart workign yet

[18:47:45]

rsdvd:

ad then I killed it :-)

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gardengnome:

rsdvd: that log is not complete, you'll need to get us /var/log/Xorg.*

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rsdvd:

I only pasted the last bit – I will post the rest – hang on

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fryfrog:

rsdvd: i don't have *any* shadow in mine :/

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gardengnome:

every time i want to configure my remote, i end up watching tv

[18:48:42]

rsdvd:

neither do I apprently :-)

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fryfrog:

i'd try something like "sudo grep -ir "shadow" /etc/ | grep "module""

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fryfrog:

rsdvd: i mean, nothing about shadow in my xorg log eitehr

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hardnova:

hmmm this is just wierd

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rsdvd:

the whole xorg.0.log is as http://www.phil-home.com/Xorg.0.log

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hardnova:

fc6 64bit runs like crap and fc6 32bit runs brilliantly and its a 64bit cpu go figure

[18:52:00]

onewheelskyward:

64 bit software just isn't there yet.

[18:52:30]

kormoc:

meh, depends on your distro and luck methinks

[18:52:52]

hardnova:

ya i am thinking that something was acting up menu changes took like 10 -15 seconds now instanioous

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hardnova:

but is interesting

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ille:

rsdvd: post also your /etc/X11/xorg.conf

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hardnova:

well im becomming an expert installer of myth ive done it 4 times now :P

[18:55:06]

fryfrog:

whelp, ordered me 2 pci sata cards, brackets adn a single extra 320G wd drive

[18:55:14]

fryfrog:

$84 for a sata2 320G drive

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hardnova:

i have kept each installation on a seperate drive so i can compare

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ille:

rsdvd: does your screen section say "720x576" but you dont have an modline for that res?

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fryfrog:

once i get all my gear in, imma rebuild my mythbackend as gentoo again :p

[18:56:39]

fryfrog:

screw this ubuntu crap

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onewheelskyward:

fryfrog: I hear ya. Been there, done that.

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rsdvd:

ille : i have ahd it working with that mode...but for completeness I changed it to 800x600 and it dies with the same error

[18:58:58]

ille:

rsdvd: ok, dunno then..

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rsdvd:

:-) you and me both

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ille:

rsdvd: maybe it is not using 800x600 because: Not using mode "800x600" (hsync out of range)

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rsdvd:

ille : how do I change the hsync?

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fryfrog:

you probably need to tell it to ignore edid

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rsdvd:

fryfrog : if I set the EDID to 0 it does the same :-(

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ille:

rsdvd: Do you run tv-out?

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rsdvd:

not at the moment – that is the next thing...this box has a scart plug for TV out

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chairman:

I have one video souce (satelite) and then I have two input, one for each lnb. When I change channels is it correct that I must change input manually by pressing C

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chairman:

s/souce/source/

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chairman:

s/input/inputs/

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hjohnson:

mmm. c-band..

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chairman:

it's really annoying

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hjohnson:

heh

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chairman:

c-band?

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Milosch:

IVD Error: Failed to process frame

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Milosch:

wth

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hardnova:

is there an option to change the popup style format in livetv

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GreyFoxx:

popup style ?

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GreyFoxx:

Oh, you mean the OSD theme? that shows the channel/show info ?

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juski:

grrr fecking evil $ky empire

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juski:

looks like in future I'll be having to resort to er.. other methods to get my '24'

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juski:

such as renting/buying dvd box sets :)

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jduggan:

juski: ?

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jduggan:

what've they done now

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jduggan:

hmm

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** jduggan nods @ evil $ky **

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juski:

looks like they're gonna get the goahead to remove $ky3, $ky new$ & $ky $port$ new$ from Freeview too

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jduggan:

lets hope with all the money behind virgin media they can outbid sky for some better tv shows

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juski:

aye :)

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jduggan:

i bet even sky sports will stop broadcasting over virgin-media, eventually

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juski:

like their move is going to make folks like me dump Virgin Media & get a DRM-locked-down minidish set up

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jduggan:

that or the end-user will have to pay a wadd for it

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juski:

I hope Murdoch's encripplement gets hacked, big style :-P

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jduggan:

it will

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juski:

I know it's all about business but there's a fine line between being a good capitalist & an evil monopoly

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juski:

anyway I need to cook :) can't wait

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juski:

Dibblah: the new blootube-wide tarball is up on the site now

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[SA]Pooky:

I want to share the videos on my desktop comptuer with the MythTV PC. The Desktop dualboots xp and gentoo, and both OSes can read the media partition I want to share.

[20:23:38]

[SA]Pooky:

Should I use samba or what?

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[SA]Pooky:

I'm on a uni network so I want it to be secure

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Zider:

secure? use nfs over ssh tunnel or something :P

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Zider:

or simply sshfs

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Zider:

dunno how well that works tho

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fryfrog:

[SA]Pooky: just stick yourself a nat router in front of your shit

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[SA]Pooky:

I have one, fryfrog, but it craps out sometimes and DMZes the boxes (turns into a switch?)

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juski:

better router! ;)

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** [SA]Pooky <- Poor **

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juski:

you could always password protect the windows share & use NFS for gentoo

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juski:

and I'd have to question where you get your 720p content if you're at Uni :-P

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daMaestro:

does the xbox need to be modded to be able to use mythfrontend?

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daMaestro:

hmm seems i should just mod it

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rsdvd:

juski : does this error mean anythign to you ? (EE) Failed to load module "shadow" (module does not exist, 0)

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juski:

rsdvd: nope. got me blank there

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juski:

try removing it from the xorg.conf file if it's there specified to be loaded

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juski:

or maybe something that depends on it (???)

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rsdvd:

:-( I had minimyth working using the ram-minimyth install...then I started to change it to nfs and now I get that error – although there is not module called shadow in xorg.conf at all

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rsdvd:

I cannot find any reference to shadow anywhere in any of the xorg files

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rsdvd:

I thought I was getting so close to :-(

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juski:

you'll need to be using the nfs minimyth – the other one makes a ramdisk & loads all of minimyth into it – leaving the rest for er.. the OS

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juski:

I think I still have an s100 xorg somewhere

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rsdvd:

I noticed :-) live tv crashed to box with no memeroy left

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rsdvd:

if you do – that would be brilliant

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rsdvd:

I am using a hybrid of what you posted on your site / the generic minimyth one and stuf taken from the germen wiki

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juski:

the newer IEGD changes loads of stuff mind

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juski:

http://pastebin.ca/369408

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juski:

this is for an older IEGD IIRC

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rsdvd:

I am not even sure if it is using the IEGD yet....to be honest the first TV I want ot put one of these on has VGA in so I might not need the IEGD

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juski:

I can help you get that going. done it enough times ;)

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** rsdvd thinks – I bet the acceleration stuff is in the IEGD **

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rsdvd:

:-) brilliant

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juski:

you'll need Xv, fer sure

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juski:

rsdvd: ignore lines 78 & 79

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rsdvd:

this xorg.conf has EDID Yes....does that mean it need the external binary thing?

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juski:

yeah set that to "no"

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rsdvd:

is that external binary not necessary then?

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juski:

not in the newer IEGD apparently

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juski:

I've yet to try that for myself

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rsdvd:

ok

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juski:

just gonna update my quit sig

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juski:

evening stuarta

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juski:

rsdvd: I dunno for sure but maybe in the new xorg, the shadow module is enabled by default or something daft

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stuarta:

evening, just had the best curry...

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stuarta:

place specializes in low fat, no colouring, no preservative etc curries. mmmmm

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juski:

I honestly wouldn't expect any curry house to do that

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juski:

put artificial shite in em, I mean

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stuarta:

pilau rice isn't actually multicolored

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juski:

no, it's pigmented with er... Tumeric or somefink

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rsdvd:

juski : using your xorg it dies with "(EE) Failed to load module "pcidata" (module does not exist, 0)"

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stuarta:

anyway, it was a damn fine curry, especially for 20 quid and we have leftovers

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juski:

rsdvd: pcidata?! wtf?

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stuarta:

think that's how x discovers devices on the bus

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juski:

rsdvd: prolly lookin in the wrong place for modules

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juski:

read between the lines :)

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rsdvd:

could be!

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juski:

or maybe the IEGD installer script didn't put stuff in the right places

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juski:

you'll have to RTFM on the IEGD to work that one out

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chairman:

If I have two lnb's so that I can tune in on two different satelites. what is the usual way to set things up. One video source for each, or just one videosource named satelite and then use two inputs on the same source?

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rsdvd:

what confuses me most is that I have had this workign today......and I have not changed anythign like that

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** juski curses $atellite provider$ **

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rsdvd:

It was running fine (albeit with no scart and using the RAM image)

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juski:

rsdvd: so just um... use the xorg.conf from the ram install

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rsdvd:

I am :-)

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rsdvd:

I don;t know what I have changed

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juski:

I've not messed with nfs minimyth yet – I might do so I can go back to using blootube-wide

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rsdvd:

replay from pablo "It appears that i810_drv.so loads libshadow.so when an i830 (or above) is the primary screen. I suggest that you add

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rsdvd:

"

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juski:

pablo knows best :D

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rsdvd:

he has given me something to add to minimyth.conf.mk....will I have to rebuild the minimyth?

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juski:

I reckon so

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juski:

well, it's time for telly & curling up on the couch

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rsdvd:

:-( do you think I can get away with just part of it? instead of all 6 hours

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juski:

laters all

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juski:

no idea

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rsdvd:

ok – thanks

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juski:

you're more experienced at it than me now :-P

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rsdvd:

lol

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rsdvd:

god help us all

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gardengnome:

you're making great progress :

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gardengnome:

:)=

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rsdvd:

gardengnome : thanks for the vote of confidence

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gardengnome:

heh

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rsdvd:

at least when this works I can at last offer something back

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gardengnome:

:)

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gardengnome:

i was gonna make a wiki on inputlircd but i can't bring myself to do it

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rsdvd:

:-)

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sphery:

Heh. I submitted ticket #3113, then my next one was #3131. I wonder if the next one I submit will be #3311...

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juski:

I was gonna do something once, but I can't remember what it was for the life of me. ahhh well :)

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stuarta:

watch tv?

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Scopeuk:

coulkd be anything

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juski:

been doing that :)

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fryfrog:

so, if i go from a master and slave be to just a master be, should i do any clean up on the db?

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** Scopeuk has been planign some madness involvign circuit munt componants usb and inteligent lighting **

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fryfrog:

i've removed the tuners from the slave be

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stuarta:

fryfrog: you'll have to adjust the name of the recording host in the recorded table

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juski:

Scopeuk: we could do with some more intelligence in here. got anything for that? ;)

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fryfrog:

okay

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Scopeuk:

juski hammer and a few hours with a select few

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** jams scrolls through the list picking out the "select few" **

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fryfrog:

ELECT *

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fryfrog:

FROM `mythconverg`.`recorded`

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fryfrog:

WHERE `hostname` = 'snape'

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fryfrog:

sorry, lame paste :/

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jd86:

I don't even know where to look to try to figure out why this problem with recordings being set as still recording.

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fryfrog:

SELECT * FROM `mythconverg`.`recorded` WHERE `hostname` = 'snape'

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** juski passes Scopeuk his ignore list :) **

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Scopeuk:

;-)

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fryfrog:

UPDATE `recorded` SET `hostname` = 'dumbledore',`lastmodified` = NOW( ) WHERE `hostname`='snape';

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fryfrog:

does that look right?

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juski:

right – time for another exciting instalment of '24'

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fryfrog:

Opinion: I have ubuntu (32bit) installed on two systems. One is an amd64 3000+ and the other is dual xeon. If I swap MB/CPU/RAM, is ubuntu going to freak?

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fryfrog:

coincidentally, i'll be using the same sata chipset for part of the array

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fryfrog:

er, the entire array

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fryfrog:

1) ubuntu uses UUID for the drives, so that shouldn't be a problem

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fryfrog:

the only thing I can think of would maybe be the NIC swapping

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jd86:

aha! i fixed the problem :-)

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jd86:

The date/time on my mythweb serv2 was set to a few weeks ago

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fryfrog:

doh :)

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fryfrog:

i had a problem like that, only it was off by 1 hour

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fryfrog:

so recordings would start (triggered by master be)

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fryfrog:

then the slave would record for about 5 minutes (2min before the hour, 3min after) and then the slave would trigger the "all done" :p

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defaultro:

afternoon folks

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fryfrog:

whelp, moved my firewire cable boxes to my "master" be

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defaultro:

do you guys know of a tool that can fix mpeg ts files? Most of the ones I see are all Windows based.

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fryfrog:

no i don't have a slave :)

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fryfrog:

defaultro: no :(

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defaultro:

ok

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fryfrog:

soon as i get my 2 pci sata cards, i'll swap my dual xeon and my 3000+ amd64 and see how ubuntu likes that

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offset:

anyone have mythstream working with mythtv svn? It keeps crashing on exit for me.

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fryfrog:

anyone know the "proper" ubuntu way of removing stuff from runlevels?

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sandeen:

chkconfig?

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** sandeen guesses **

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fryfrog:

no :(

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fryfrog:

stupid ubuntu :p

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offset:

fryfrog: it looks like you could use sysv-rc-conf

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fryfrog:

ah

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fryfrog:

i don't appear to have that either :/

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offset:

sudo apt-get install sysv-rc-conf

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fryfrog:

don't you think there is something already installed to do it?

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fryfrog:

i ended up just rm'ing the /etc/rc2.d entry

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juski:

re

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juski:

defaultro: ffmpeg :)

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juski:

to turn ts into ps, ffmpeg -i $inputfilename -acodec copy -vcodec copy $outputfilename

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juski:

you might also want to read the ffmpeg manual for options to do with mapping streams

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juski:

basically that command line does the same as a tool I used to use on windows called PVAStrumento

[23:06:55]

juski:

or if you prefer a GUI app, there's projectX – but that uses eeeeevil Java

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feld:

i have a gray osd bug with xvmc on a GF4 in .20

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feld:

i tried the "hack" which is only listed for .19 but it doesnt work

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juski:

works fine with Via xvmc :)

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juski:

I lived with the OSD being monochrome for ages – it's really not an issue unless you do a lot of editing

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robbins876:

how do I formate a microSD card to fat32?

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juski:

put it this way I preferred it to NTL's *purple* OSD ;)

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juski:

robbins876: http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=fa . . . ch&meta=

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juski:

1st hit!

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juski:

thankyou for using the #mythtv-users Google interface

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kormoc:

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plink212:

anyone know what to set the dvd device to on mac os x to get the internal dvd player to work?

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LLyric:

Does the "Video Manager" store it's information per-frontend, or globally? Since the frontend needs to see the filesystem, to be able to play videos etc.

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plink212:

the myth internal player btw

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juski:

LLyric: globally

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LLyric:

It's assumed that the same filesystem is mounted on the same place on every frontend?

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juski:

yup

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LLyric:

Okay, related (linux) question. What's a good way to build a "distributed filesystem", making use of storage from each front/backend, and expose it in a mountable way?

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juski:

nfs

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LLyric:

Every node mounting every other node explicitly, or is there some way to do the "assembly" in once place, and re-export it?

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juski:

hrm

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juski:

sounds messy

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juski:

you could use a bunch of symbolic links....

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alsoconfused:

automount

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juski:

still messy and ultimately not as good as having it all in one place

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LLyric:

See, I've got two backend (each with about 1000GB of storage), and three frontends (each with about 500GB of storage). It would be nice to be able to collate all that storage somehow, so it's more location transparent.

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LLyric:

I'm out of sata channels on my primary backend, and my PCI SATA controller doesn't seem to work (timeouts etc). Maybe that's the (brand new!) drives though...

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alsoconfused:

LLyric: nbd may be an option

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LLyric:

"coda" looks interesting...

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LLyric:

since it's gige, network shouldn't be a limiting factor at all, only physical disk stuff

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juski:

I find sata to be really, *really* sucky

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juski:

like controllers not talking to some makes of HDDs & vice-versa. very ugly

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LLyric:

but meer mortals can't afford scsi/san

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alsoconfused:

compare to what?

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juski:

I've seen a few kinds of controller device not talk to some big name manufacturer HDDs and I'm not particularly excited by that

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juski:

I've always been of the view that a HDD is a HDD and should just work (tm) with anything & be fit for purpose

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alsoconfused:

SCSI ain't perfect either

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juski:

true

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LLyric:

I think the whole compatability thing is a bit less of an issue these days.

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juski:

but this firmware related stuff I've seen is putting me off going with sata at home, big style

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LLyric:

But then again, I can't get my new drives working :)

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juski:

somebody needs a rocket up their arse to sort it out

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** LLyric has 600GB sitting in his mythbox that shows errors/timeouts when I access it, pah **

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LLyric:

Might just go buy a new motherboard with 8 sata ports :)

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juski:

silicon image chipset by any chance?

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LLyric:

yup

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janneg:

anything beyond sata1 <-> sata2 compatibility issues?

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LLyric:

sii3112 or something

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juski:

oh fuck not 3112

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LLyric:

It's really old :)

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LLyric:

I used it, like... 4+ years ago?

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juski:

sees HDD, doesn't see HDD. sees HDD, doesn't see HDD...

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LLyric:

yeah, something like that. gets timeouts performing block io.

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LLyric:

It sortof works, but is unusable

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juski:

they're still being made and I know one reputable company shipping them on their own brand of PCI cards

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juski:

Adaptec of all people

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alsoconfused:

2ware FTW

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alsoconfused:

3ware even

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LLyric:

Yeah, but if I was going to spend $400+ on a multi-port sata controller, I'd just buy a new MB with 8 onboard

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juski:

aye there's that

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alsoconfused:

i'd rather have a separate controller

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LLyric:

gigabyte has a couple , but they seem overkill for a headless box which lives in the garage

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juski:

I've had big problems sourcing a controller that'll work with Esata devices :(

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juski:

it's been out like *how* long & it still hasn't settled yet

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LLyric:

isn't esata just a plug format? isn't it just sata(2?) on the wire?

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juski:

nope

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LLyric:

and shielded cables

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juski:

all sata cables are shielded

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juski:

the issue in question is port multiplier awareness

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** LLyric might be reduced to buying usb2 external storage, and sitting it on top of the pc :( **

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juski:

port multipliers can be thought of as like a switch to take one sata port & take it 5 ways

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juski:

part of sata2 allegedly but I've yet to find a controller that works with a box I'm meant to be evaluating

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