| Monday, January 1st, 2007, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | xris: | and not all of them work all the time |
| [00:00:09] | Inssomniak: | the current one is G.A.N.T |
| [00:00:13] | Inssomniak: | is that the OSD one? |
| [00:00:16] | xris: | weird stuff like if they change brands of diodes |
| [00:00:26] | xris: | Inssomniak: no, probably not |
| [00:00:35] | GreyFoxx: | Gant is a menu theme |
| [00:00:37] | GreyFoxx: | not the OSD theme |
| [00:00:41] | Inssomniak: | where do ya configure the OSD theme ? |
| [00:00:49] | GreyFoxx: | the OSD theme is defined under the playback settings menu |
| [00:00:52] | Inssomniak: | ok |
| [00:01:24] | Speedy2: | xris: So what I'm talking about is putting a right-angle PCI connector in place of a standard PCI connector |
| [00:02:17] | xris: | Speedy2: "right angle pci connector" is usually called a "pci riser"... and that's what I'm talking about. |
| [00:02:29] | xris: | like I said, I hope it works for you, but don't be surprised if things act weird. |
| [00:03:15] | Speedy2: | 10–4 |
| [00:03:39] | xris: | low bandwidth stuff is usually ok, though |
| [00:06:18] | Speedy2: | Well, I had to make a custom setup to get it deal with the tone switch correctly. Bug in mythtv-setup |
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| [00:08:40] | Inssomniak: | extra OSD themes come with the "myththemes" package? |
| [00:09:01] | GreyFoxx: | yup |
| [00:09:25] | Inssomniak: | thx |
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| [00:09:55] | Inssomniak: | next question |
| [00:10:04] | Inssomniak: | for the DVD burn plung I think its called "mytharchive" |
| [00:10:21] | Inssomniak: | would the DVD recorder be installed in the frontend? |
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| [00:11:31] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v juski | |
| [00:11:32] | GreyFoxx: | all plugins run on the frontends |
| [00:11:37] | Inssomniak: | ok |
| [00:11:40] | Inssomniak: | thx |
| [00:11:42] | juski: | major major major network outage here :( |
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| [00:15:58] | SeaWeed: | Can Some 1 help with this error i Desided to try a Fresh install and now im getting this error |
| [00:16:01] | ** SeaWeed http://pastebin.com/848734 ** | |
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| [00:17:42] | SeaWeed: | (Inssomniak) you useing a Nexus or a bugget card |
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| [00:18:35] | juski: | well, this time next year I won't be using ubuntu,fer sure.. happy new year all :) |
| [00:18:45] | robbins876: | peace |
| [00:19:24] | juski: | heheh whoah it's not ubuntu's fault |
| [00:19:31] | juski: | I've been getting probed by 82.96.96.3 |
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| [00:21:45] | SeaWeed: | any 1 Seen that error before |
| [00:21:50] | SeaWeed: | http://pastebin.com/848734 |
| [00:22:06] | SeaWeed: | any help would be great |
| [00:22:50] | ** juski is too drunk to look at logs, sorry ** | |
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| [00:32:27] | ** juski closes his router to the outside world ** | |
| [00:32:41] | Inssomniak: | SeaWeed, 2 budgets, a nexus, and an atsc card |
| [00:33:43] | Inssomniak: | kerneldeint=2:0 |
| [00:33:47] | Inssomniak: | nice setting ! |
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| [00:36:59] | SeaWeed: | (Inssomniak) you got a Sec |
| [00:37:08] | Inssomniak: | sure |
| [00:38:02] | Inssomniak: | most OSD themes seem to cut off channel numbers higher than 4, |
| [00:38:15] | SeaWeed: | (Inssomniak) check you pm |
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| [00:52:40] | xris: | Totally OT, but my friend needs $20 more before midnight to add one more girl to the scholarship list for next year. please help: http://akilidada.googlepages.com/donate |
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| [00:53:31] | xris: | wait, she did her math wrong. has enough. but don't let that stop people from donating. :) |
| [00:54:13] | [1]Jack3: | anyone knowwhat the default knoppmyth password is when running iin livecd mode |
| [00:54:17] | [1]Jack3: | ? |
| [00:56:29] | cesman: | there is no password |
| [00:56:45] | cesman: | what is it you are trying to do? |
| [00:57:40] | [1]Jack3: | i am trying to load xconsole as root |
| [00:58:52] | eob84: | is there a good step by step turorial on external channel change scripts? |
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| [01:01:11] | cesman: | Jack3: i thought you were doing to fix lilo |
| [01:01:35] | Jack3: | yeh dont I need to open a console window on the live cd to type that stuff in? |
| [01:02:00] | cesman: | i told you to quit |
| [01:02:20] | cesman: | if I give you directions and you don't understand, ask |
| [01:02:27] | cesman: | don't go off on a tangent |
| [01:02:34] | Jack3: | ah sorry, i thought you had left |
| [01:02:52] | cesman: | I said:bbiab |
| [01:02:57] | Jack3: | okay |
| [01:03:00] | Jack3: | here ill talk in knoppmyth |
| [01:05:18] | eob84: | anyone set up and IR-BLASTER in myth tv? |
| [01:11:39] | janneg: | juski: blootube 4:3 misses the watched icon |
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| [01:16:31] | eob84: | so no one here... has setup an IR-BLASTER for mythtv? |
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| [01:25:20] | Paladine: | Happy New Years everyone |
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| [01:37:34] | Paladine: | man there seriously needs to be a feature added to the channel setup in mytht-setup to allow you to delete more than one chnnel at once |
| [01:37:36] | Paladine: | this sucks |
| [01:37:55] | Paladine: | I have about 500 channels to sort through and everytime I delete one, it takes me right back to the top of the list |
| [01:42:14] | juski: | janneg: where did I say it was compatible with svn? ;) |
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| [01:44:30] | juski: | if I add the 'watched' icon it'll (erroneously) show on previous versions, like it does in blootube-wide etc |
| [01:50:02] | Paladine: | juski you know where I can find a complete list of UK sky channels sorted alphabetically but also listing their channel number? |
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| [01:56:02] | juski: | http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds28384.html |
| [01:56:48] | juski: | sounds like you need a bit of mysql/perl-fu |
| [01:57:14] | juski: | or the automagical config whizzy thing I once started |
| [02:06:49] | Paladine: | it for that rf controller I got |
| [02:06:59] | Paladine: | I have to change all the channel frequencies to the channel numbers |
| [02:07:54] | juski: | should be quite easy to turn that list into mysql with some perl |
| [02:08:43] | Paladine: | shame that list isn't in alphabetical order :/ |
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| [02:09:52] | jusk1: | way to go, umbongo |
| [02:09:54] | jusk1: | reboot |
| [02:10:23] | jusk1: | I'm gonna go back to gentoo I swear |
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| [02:10:42] | doc_: | hi |
| [02:11:31] | jusk1: | beep! just rebooted again. |
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| [02:11:58] | jusk1: | now I have 2 pains in the neck. one physical, one linux-based |
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| [02:12:54] | SeaWeed: | Trip i Had to Tell it To Ignore Sig Lock And just Do blind Scan on Transponders |
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| [02:27:37] | juski: | wheee |
| [02:31:47] | Paladine: | juski, remind me to backup my database when I finish manually editing all these damn channels :) |
| [02:32:08] | Paladine: | juski, you know where I can get more upto channel id file for xmltv? the one I have is missing a bunch of channels |
| [02:32:17] | Paladine: | like it has E4 +1 but no E4 |
| [02:32:41] | Paladine: | more upto date I meant |
| [02:33:12] | Paladine: | in fact there are a -lot- of sky channels not listed in the xmltv id file |
| [02:34:20] | juski: | well, radiotimes doesn't supply _every_ channel's listing ya know |
| [02:34:58] | juski: | like if you're a fan of the nakedsumo channel you'll be out of luck ;) |
| [02:35:01] | Paladine: | is it ok to add channels without an xmlid? will they still work, just not be able to get a schedule for? |
| [02:35:08] | juski: | yeah |
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| [02:51:39] | juski: | /USR/SBIN/CRON[31268]: (root) CMD ( [ -d /var/lib/php5 ] && find /var/lib/php5/ -type f -cmin +$(/ |
| [02:51:42] | juski: | usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime) -print0 | xargs -r -0 rm) |
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| [02:51:51] | juski: | now what in the world is all that about? |
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| [02:54:48] | Paladine: | juski |
| [02:54:52] | Paladine: | you know sky box office? |
| [02:55:03] | Paladine: | it is only listed once in the xmltv id file |
| [02:55:14] | Paladine: | but there are about 50 of the buggers |
| [02:55:16] | juski: | it's a ppv thing though isn't it? |
| [02:55:24] | Paladine: | yes |
| [02:55:48] | Paladine: | but what if I want to watch and record something on ppv? |
| [02:55:53] | juski: | I wouldn't worry about it – I've seen what $ky show on their other movie channels... mostly straight to video shite |
| [02:56:08] | juski: | Paladine: schedule a manual recording |
| [02:56:29] | Paladine: | yes I guess I will have to setup a spare channel |
| [02:56:37] | Paladine: | for all the manual recordings |
| [02:57:13] | juski: | seems to me the last message in the log of note before the reboot was that ubuntu couldn't establish a connection to a non-existant share |
| [03:00:44] | juski: | ah that cron I posted earlier is for killing off php processes of a certain age |
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| [03:20:00] | xris: | juski: go drink some more. |
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| [03:20:41] | juski: | nah I've had enough for one night |
| [03:20:53] | DVBMark: | welp got me the mce remote and the kbd heh |
| [03:21:10] | juski: | bottle & a half of wine is enough to gimme a bad head when I wake up |
| [03:24:16] | xris: | heh |
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| [03:29:04] | juski: | found out tonight that I think I need a new switch in the livingroom |
| [03:29:41] | scopeuk: | hi all |
| [03:30:05] | juski: | my poor linksys got inundated from the WAN port & couldn't cope. subsequently traffic on my internal network came to a near standstill & I thought the backend had crashed |
| [03:30:11] | juski: | hiya scope. good party? |
| [03:30:38] | juski: | jees – the router is still being hammerred |
| [03:31:19] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v juski | |
| [03:31:49] | juski: | is it like 'let's all hack Juski' night or something? |
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| [03:34:30] | juski: | ah so freenode are scanning for open ports, fair nuff.. but there's a lot of other traffic too. little worzels |
| [03:34:53] | pab: | I just dist-upgraded my Debian Etch and the .deb for mythweb errors. Where do I need to go to research why? |
| [03:35:22] | juski: | ? |
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| [03:38:43] | scopeuk: | juski was fun |
| [03:38:49] | scopeuk: | left one of my friends comastos o nthe floor |
| [03:38:58] | scopeuk: | we ened up spending most of the evenign in the pub an way though |
| [03:39:40] | juski: | heh |
| [03:40:38] | scopeuk: | no injuries or fights by the time i left which was when every one who wasent lkeavign had gone to bed |
| [03:40:50] | scopeuk: | well now drink induced injuries any way |
| [03:44:02] | juski: | eep. I should go to bed. back to the old routine on tuesday |
| [03:44:13] | juski: | g'night all. have a happy new year! |
| [03:45:04] | scopeuk: | night |
| [03:45:06] | scopeuk: | happy newyear |
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| [04:12:59] | JoeyJoeJo: | My backend is running, but no frontends or mythweb will connect to it |
| [04:13:04] | JoeyJoeJo: | any ideas? |
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| [04:17:23] | pab: | JoeyJoeJo: I just did an upgrade on my Debian Etch and had to reinstall the nvidia driver to get mythfrontend back. Is yours a similar case? |
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| [04:19:48] | JoeyJoeJo: | pab: actually, yeah I just got a new nvidia card |
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| [04:31:42] | tripppy: | can i still do recordings if i dont have a AGP card? IE backend only? |
| [04:31:53] | Paladine: | anyone got the url for the mythfrontend keyboard controls handy? |
| [04:34:01] | sandeen: | tripppy, sure |
| [04:34:26] | Zider: | tripppy: you can do recordings without any gfx card at all |
| [04:35:08] | sandeen: | Paladine, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Keybindings |
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| [04:38:03] | tripppy: | ok. i have a bt878 card. knoppmyth detects it on boot up, ive read that its best to recompile with the right drivers for this card. true? |
| [04:39:41] | sandeen: | much better than recompiling with the wrong drivers, to be sure |
| [04:40:53] | Paladine: | brb |
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| [04:50:08] | tripppy: | sandeen, when i boot with knoppmyth it detects it as a brooktree bt878, do i assume its loaded them for me? |
| [04:50:30] | sandeen: | sounds like it |
| [04:55:34] | tripppy: | how do i test if its working if i can't view live tv? |
| [04:56:16] | sandeen: | record something? |
| [04:59:13] | ** sandeen isn't very helpful today ** | |
| [05:05:51] | cesman: | "best to recompile for this tuner" |
| [05:05:55] | cesman: | recompile what? |
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| [05:11:59] | tripppy: | cesman, i dont know the drivers dvb-b8xx ? |
| [05:12:19] | cesman: | where ever you read that, it is wrong |
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| [05:12:48] | cesman: | what tuner do you have? |
| [05:13:48] | JoeyJoeJo: | when I'm watching livetv and I'm in the program guide, I want it to switch to the channel when I press enter, not give me recording options |
| [05:13:55] | JoeyJoeJo: | where is this option? |
| [05:14:11] | cesman: | press the 'menu' key to switch |
| [05:15:37] | JoeyJoeJo: | hmm, I didn't know that worked, thanks.. but I remember there was a way to do it when I press enter, which is what I'd prefer.. do you know how to do this? |
| [05:16:13] | cesman: | no, I do not |
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| [05:16:28] | cesman: | I think you can change the keybind, but I have not |
| [05:16:31] | JoeyJoeJo: | ok, thanks for the tip though |
| [05:16:52] | cesman: | you're welcome |
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| [05:17:20] | cesman: | tripppy: what tuner do you have? |
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| [05:19:46] | tripppy: | cesman, twinhan 3020C |
| [05:20:18] | tripppy: | DVB-T, knopp myth detects it as a brooktree878 |
| [05:20:48] | cesman: | so when you set up the tuner, did you select dvb? |
| [05:21:03] | cesman: | that is because there is a bt chiopset on the card |
| [05:21:15] | cesman: | this should be a non-issue |
| [05:21:44] | tripppy: | yeahi selected dvb |
| [05:22:38] | cesman: | when you selected dvb, did it id the card? |
| [05:22:58] | tripppy: | i belive so, it didnt say deivce not found |
| [05:23:57] | cesman: | ok, so what is the problem you are having? |
| [05:24:27] | tripppy: | welll i cant watch live tv on this pc so i wanna test if it can record. |
| [05:25:06] | cesman: | have you investigated the backend log? |
| [05:25:20] | cesman: | have you start the frontend from an xterm? |
| [05:25:55] | cesman: | if you start the frontend from an xterm and <alt><tab> once you have an issue, you'll be able to see some output |
| [05:26:07] | cesman: | that may give you clues as to what the problem is |
| [05:27:20] | JoeyJoeJo: | my backend keeps saying that there are no capture cards in the database, even though mythtv-setup says that there is |
| [05:28:08] | cesman: | was the backend running when you added the cards? |
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| [05:28:30] | cesman: | if you care going to do anything w/ the cards, stop the backend before doing so |
| [05:28:39] | cesman: | s/care/are |
| [05:28:44] | JoeyJoeJo: | cesman: I'm not sure.. I'll give that a shot |
| [05:29:05] | ** cesman ponders what version of myth ** | |
| [05:29:22] | ** cesman ponders what version of mythtv JoeyJoeJo is using... ** | |
| [05:29:40] | JoeyJoeJo: | .20 |
| [05:29:42] | cesman: | as 0.20 should tell you if the backend is running if you go into -setup |
| [05:31:45] | JoeyJoeJo: | hmm, I tried it this time and I know that the backend wasn't running, but I still get the same thing |
| [05:32:56] | cesman: | restart the backend |
| [05:34:01] | JoeyJoeJo: | this is too weird.. now I can see the backend process running when I use the ps command, but my frontend says it's not connected |
| [05:34:10] | JoeyJoeJo: | or rather that the backend is not running |
| [05:35:39] | cesman: | JoeyJoeJo: which distro are you using? can you /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend stop, etc? |
| [05:36:03] | JoeyJoeJo: | gentoo.. I do /etc/init.d/mythbackend stop/start/restart |
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| [06:01:42] | k-man: | hello |
| [06:01:57] | k-man: | how can i make a menu entry to shutdown my mythtv box? |
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| [06:10:17] | cesman: | hello k-man |
| [06:10:24] | k-man: | hi cesman |
| [06:10:26] | cesman: | edit mainmenu.xml |
| [06:10:34] | cesman: | add something like: |
| [06:10:34] | k-man: | ah |
| [06:10:35] | k-man: | thanks |
| [06:10:37] | cesman: | <button> |
| [06:10:37] | cesman: | <type>POWER</type> |
| [06:10:37] | cesman: | <text>Power Off </text> |
| [06:10:37] | cesman: | <action>EXEC /usr/bin/sudo halt</action> |
| [06:10:37] | cesman: | </button> |
| [06:11:26] | cesman: | you're welcome |
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| [06:29:44] | Paladine: | anyone know off the top of their heads if these are the correct attributes for mythtv channels? |
| [06:29:46] | Paladine: | name,chanid,channum,freqid,sourceid,callsign,xmltvid,recpriority,contrast,bright ness,colour,hue,tvformat,commfree,visible |
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| [07:24:26] | Jack3: | wee 35min till new years |
| [07:28:43] | jblack: | Hi. Happy (belated|upcoming) new year. |
| [07:29:13] | jblack: | My transcoder seems to fail when it tries to eat really large files. |
| [07:30:43] | jblack: | first it was the sound of music (4 hours long, hdtv). This time its "Exploring space". Also hdtv, 12.23 gigs in size. |
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| [08:15:24] | shellshark: | i'm looking at setting up a Myth box... what's the best value card on a single-TV-tuner card that will work with Myth? |
| [08:15:34] | shellshark: | I found a PVR-350 for $51, is that what everyone would recommend? |
| [08:15:44] | cesman: | wow! |
| [08:15:44] | shellshark: | or is there something better around the same or a little higher price range? |
| [08:15:47] | cesman: | 51 bucks |
| [08:15:53] | Blaksmith: | awsome price |
| [08:15:55] | cesman: | that is a deal |
| [08:15:59] | shellshark: | is it a good card? |
| [08:16:05] | Blaksmith: | I got my 150 for 79 |
| [08:16:08] | cesman: | it is a great card |
| [08:16:18] | Jack3: | whered you find that shellshark, if it isnt an ebay auction |
| [08:16:20] | Jack3: | ? |
| [08:16:22] | shellshark: | should i spend the extra money and get the 500? |
| [08:16:34] | shellshark: | Jack3: froogle.com, which lead me to nextdaypc.com... |
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| [08:16:41] | Jack3: | cool |
| [08:16:45] | Jack3: | ill have to check that out |
| [08:16:47] | cesman: | w/ the 500, you can record 2 shows at once |
| [08:16:49] | shellshark: | Jack3: they had it cheaper elsewhere, but this particular vendor had the most stars ;) |
| [08:17:02] | shellshark: | cesman: is that the only advantage? |
| [08:17:07] | cesman: | yes |
| [08:17:10] | shellshark: | cesman: picture quality, etc, is about the same? |
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| [08:17:21] | shellshark: | no one would recommend a different brand or anything? |
| [08:17:33] | cesman: | the 350 and an mpeg decode w/ tv out so you can use it as a display |
| [08:17:43] | cesman: | HOWEVER it isn't a video card |
| [08:17:55] | shellshark: | yeah i know :) |
| [08:18:09] | Jack3: | http://www.nextdaypc.com/main/products/detail . . . id=ND0130014 |
| [08:18:10] | Jack3: | ah nice |
| [08:18:11] | shellshark: | what does the 350 have that the 150 does not? |
| [08:18:20] | shellshark: | Jack3: yeah, that's it... |
| [08:18:29] | cesman: | you can probably fine something else for cheaper, however I highly recommend an mpeg2 encoder |
| [08:18:39] | shellshark: | Jack3: sorry, i IRC on a seperate comp than i web browse, so couldnt copy-n-paste hehe |
| [08:18:55] | shellshark: | cesman: well it's certainly in my price range ;) |
| [08:19:20] | shellshark: | but hauppage is a good brand? |
| [08:19:26] | shellshark: | no one would recommend something else? |
| [08:19:33] | Jack3: | http://store.pagecomputers.com/store/productl . . . tab_overview |
| [08:19:35] | cesman: | huappauge is a great brand |
| [08:19:36] | Jack3: | 124$ bucks |
| [08:19:41] | Jack3: | pvr-500 |
| [08:19:43] | cesman: | if it is in you price range, get it |
| [08:20:08] | cesman: | hauppuage would be my first recommendation for a tuner card |
| [08:20:28] | cesman: | they have been making cards for some time and most of thier cards work w/ Linux |
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| [08:20:36] | shellshark: | now say i want a secondary tuner later on, can i just keep throwing 350's or 150's in the same box? |
| [08:20:49] | shellshark: | will myth be able to use multiple cards at the same time? |
| [08:20:52] | cesman: | as long as you have a pci slot |
| [08:20:55] | cesman: | yes |
| [08:21:01] | shellshark: | sweet |
| [08:21:04] | ** cesman has 7 tuners between 2 systems ** | |
| [08:21:21] | shellshark: | also, do i need the "A/V Cable Set" thingy? |
| [08:21:38] | cesman: | for the 350? |
| [08:21:42] | shellshark: | yeah |
| [08:21:49] | shellshark: | it says it works with 150, 350, and 500 |
| [08:21:55] | cesman: | if you want composite or svideo in/out |
| [08:22:22] | shellshark: | composite as in RGB RCA cables? |
| [08:22:34] | shellshark: | like my HDTV uses? |
| [08:22:49] | cesman: | rgb and composite are not the same |
| [08:22:59] | cesman: | your are thinking of component |
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| [08:23:05] | shellshark: | ah yes |
| [08:23:12] | shellshark: | Pr Pb Yb or whatever |
| [08:24:44] | cesman: | shellshark: please be aware that hauppauge has support my project by sending me a few cards |
| [08:25:06] | shellshark: | cesman: what is your project? :) |
| [08:25:10] | cesman: | however, I am recommending them because they make good cards |
| [08:25:16] | cesman: | shellshark: KnoppMyth |
| [08:25:29] | shellshark: | oooo |
| [08:25:50] | shellshark: | ok so the PVR-350 for $51 is the best deal then? |
| [08:26:05] | cesman: | I think that is a great deal |
| [08:26:09] | shellshark: | CRICKEY! $16 shipping! |
| [08:26:21] | cesman: | so long as the card works |
| [08:26:43] | shellshark: | ah |
| [08:26:52] | shellshark: | shop.com has it for $60 with free shipping |
| [08:27:01] | shellshark: | so shop.com is the best price out the door |
| [08:28:16] | Jack3: | shop sounds reliable to lol |
| [08:28:42] | shellshark: | GAH |
| [08:28:54] | shellshark: | they say free shipping, but on checking out, they add $9.95 for shipping |
| [08:28:58] | shellshark: | bastids ;) |
| [08:29:26] | cesman: | bastids... |
| [08:29:32] | cesman: | that is just F'd up |
| [08:30:13] | shellshark: | so 52+15 = 67, or 61+9 = 70 |
| [08:30:27] | shellshark: | so it looks like nextdaypc is actually cheaper still ;) |
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| [08:31:27] | shellshark: | oh! that $15 shipping on nextdaypc was for "Fast Track" service |
| [08:31:51] | shellshark: | regular shipping / handling is only $9.95 |
| [08:32:04] | [1]Jack3: | well id go with shop.com |
| [08:32:08] | [1]Jack3: | ive heard of it atleast |
| [08:34:41] | shellshark: | well they both have the same number of froogle reviews |
| [08:34:49] | shellshark: | and both have the same rating |
| [08:35:45] | shellshark: | so i ordered from nextdaypc :p |
| [08:36:08] | shellshark: | they have a valid SSL cert that my browser didn't complain about... |
| [08:36:15] | shellshark: | so i'm mostly-happy :P |
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| [08:37:46] | shellshark: | how many jack's does it take? :P |
| [08:38:00] | [2]Jack3: | lol ALOT |
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| [08:40:23] | shellshark: | is there a card with quad tuners? |
| [08:40:47] | Jack3_: | lol |
| [08:41:07] | cesman: | non I'm aware of |
| [08:44:47] | shellshark: | oooo |
| [08:45:02] | shellshark: | Tvmini HD Small USB2.0 ATSC HDTV TV Tuner |
| [08:45:06] | shellshark: | $223 |
| [08:45:10] | shellshark: | myth-compatible? |
| [08:45:41] | jblack: | I use the 5500 from http://pchdtv.com . It works great with broadcast hdtv in the US. |
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| [08:46:15] | shellshark: | oh cool, they openly support linux :) |
| [08:46:33] | shellshark: | and it's hella cheaper! :) |
| [08:47:01] | shellshark: | ah, it decodes in software :( |
| [08:47:41] | [2]Jack3: | what are you talkin about |
| [08:47:53] | cesman: | not many ATSC or DVB tuners have a decoder |
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| [08:47:57] | shellshark: | the HD-5500 from pcHDTV |
| [08:48:05] | shellshark: | cesman: ah |
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| [08:48:19] | shellshark: | i thought DVB was for broadcasting |
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| [08:49:28] | shellshark: | also, what is QAM? |
| [08:49:57] | cesman: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAM |
| [08:50:00] | cesman: | later folks |
| [08:50:04] | shellshark: | later |
| [08:50:07] | shellshark: | thanks for the help :) |
| [08:50:43] | cesman: | you're welcome |
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| [08:53:45] | jblack: | I want to go to digital cable... but that would mean getting 2 or 3 new cards, getting a new machine capable of handling the streams, getting digital cable at $50 a month. |
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| [08:54:13] | shellshark: | wow i pay $13/mo for digital cable here (basic package) |
| [08:54:35] | jblack: | Yeah. The local cable company is expensive. |
| [08:54:51] | shellshark: | $50/mo for 10Mbps / 1Mbps internet service on top of that also ;) |
| [08:55:19] | shellshark: | we get a multi-service discount though, so our total bill is under $60 |
| [08:56:12] | shellshark: | what is IVTV? |
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| [08:56:43] | shellshark: | ah |
| [08:56:46] | shellshark: | wikipedia++ |
| [09:01:06] | shellshark: | can i do 16x9 output with the PVR-350? |
| [09:01:27] | shellshark: | say like 1280x768 or 1440x900? |
| [09:01:58] | shellshark: | or does it only support 720x480 and 720x576? |
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| [09:14:48] | The_Ball: | anyone use mythtv with 64bit systems? |
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| [11:15:37] | Yalla-One: | Has any thought been made on using Amarok as a replacement for Myth-Music? As mythmusic appears unmaintained, and amarok has made tremendous advances on usability and interface, it'd be interesting to see what a joint amarok+myth team could come up with. or at least discuss it. |
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| [11:28:15] | juski: | shellshark: that'd be another good reason not to buy one, it only does PAL & NTSC. though there's nothing to stop you scaling everything amorphically |
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| [11:54:26] | k-man: | Yalla-One, yeah, i thought of that too... its a great idea although I'm not sure how it could be done |
| [11:55:43] | Yalla-One: | k-man, They're both KDE/Qt based, and Amarok has a lot of work gone into music management etc. All that's needed is to create a TV+remote-friendly GUI on top of the present amarok GUI... |
| [11:56:11] | Yalla-One: | Now that's not a small task, but it would give both projects a tremendous boost, and despite lots of googling and searching, it doesn't seem to have been done before... |
| [11:56:22] | Yalla-One: | s/done/discussed/ |
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| [12:05:35] | caitlin: | ello |
| [12:05:44] | GlemSom: | I have a PVR-350 card setup with mythtv with TV-OUT... And it's working like a charm... But I'm getting quite anoid about only being able to see or record one channel at the time. So – I was wondering if I could get a PVR-150 card – and use that for recordings only – and still have the PVR-350 for livetv and tv-out?... Will that work? |
| [12:05:52] | caitlin: | anyone got mytharchive working on ubuntu edgy eft? |
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| [12:23:03] | zambba: | So, my TV broadcasts are in DVB-T format. Does anyone have experiences on the CPU requirements of recording two such streams, and serving content to a frontend? I assume I don't have to encode the MPEG-2 stuff to some another format when recording.. |
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| [12:28:05] | vkangin: | Hi, is any one did try DVB-S2 cards with MythTV ? |
| [12:35:39] | zambba: | And does anyone use WLAN with mythtv? |
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| [12:42:57] | juski: | zambba: YMMV with wireless. you'll need at least a 'G' connection, and good quality at that |
| [12:43:12] | juski: | zambba: also, recording dvb-t consumes next to no cpu |
| [12:43:25] | zambba: | Oh, nice. |
| [12:43:39] | juski: | I can record from 3 tuners at the same time ... less than 10% CPU |
| [12:43:49] | juski: | like WAY less |
| [12:43:54] | Jack3: | hey guys how might i change the freq in myth? |
| [12:44:33] | juski: | happy new year caitlin. you might wanna update the theme.. lots has changed behind the scenes www.juski.co.uk |
| [12:44:42] | caitlin: | golly gosh |
| [12:44:47] | caitlin: | happy new year to you too |
| [12:45:48] | ** juski has mytharchive on bunty, but can't remember which version of bunty it is ** | |
| [12:46:37] | juski: | considering getting rid of ubuntu.. my box spontaneously reboots every now & again, and it didn't with other distros |
| [12:47:57] | caitlin: | hrm |
| [12:48:05] | caitlin: | i'm *thinking* about gentoo again |
| [12:48:15] | caitlin: | i can't get my fucking dvd drive working atm |
| [12:49:07] | juski: | ah this might be it.. "Warning: Do not attempt to enable pre-emptive kernel locks in your kernel configuration--the ivtv modules do not get along with them and will cause spontaneous reboots." |
| [12:49:15] | juski: | ffs |
| [12:49:31] | zambba: | Ubuntu's kernel is quite patched |
| [12:49:39] | juski: | buidling your own kernel on ubuntu.. now there's a defeat in the 'linux for human beings' argument |
| [12:49:42] | zambba: | It has many patches which can cause problems, also |
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| [12:50:26] | juski: | I'll bite the bullet & rebuild on gentoo. much as I disliked gentoo, it had enormous stablity compared to this |
| [12:51:36] | caitlin: | heh, human beings don't run myth... they buy tivos |
| [12:51:41] | juski: | how much benefit is pre-emptive kernel locking anyway? not much I bet |
| [12:51:48] | GlemSom: | doesn't lirc require a preempt kernel? But ivtv prefers a non preempt? |
| [12:52:06] | juski: | doesn't matter, I don't need lirc on my backend |
| [12:52:36] | juski: | I do need more uptime than this though |
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| [12:53:59] | caitlin: | bloody mplayer just chucks "seek failed" when trying to play a dvd |
| [12:54:30] | juski: | what about vlc? |
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| [12:54:50] | juski: | check your user has privileges on the dvd drive too |
| [12:55:53] | juski: | time to pull the slave backend out of the equation.. no longer needed :) |
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| [13:01:24] | jduggan_: | sooo, anyone know if ntl cable plans to broadcast hd |
| [13:01:56] | janneg: | juski: you did not. at least as far as i know :) |
| [13:02:09] | juski: | janneg: heheh |
| [13:02:21] | juski: | jduggan_: not in a form mythtv will ever be able to record, no |
| [13:02:34] | juski: | you have to have their shitty HD PVR |
| [13:02:37] | janneg: | I just thought it was a mistake since blootube-wide final shows it |
| [13:02:50] | juski: | janneg: part mistake / intentional |
| [13:03:17] | jduggan_: | juski: yea, it wasnt a myth related question as such |
| [13:03:23] | jduggan_: | just interested thats all |
| [13:03:49] | janneg: | juski: no big deal. I have fixed it for myself |
| [13:05:42] | caitlin: | gosh, what a lot of cdda erros |
| [13:06:12] | juski: | jduggan_: apparently if you have more than one box they can share recordings between one another |
| [13:06:15] | juski: | ooo lunchy! |
| [13:06:19] | juski: | bbl |
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| [14:02:01] | juski: | what does everybody need when they're lounging around watching a bit of telly for a while? Oh I know.. a scroller on screen telling you that "if you're not feeling very festive you can ring this helpline number". pfft |
| [14:04:06] | juski: | janneg: could I please have the new ui.xml file? i.e. your fix for blootube ? |
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| [14:07:33] | SeaWeed: | is there is way to clear data base im getting a data base error and cant even run myth-setup |
| [14:07:36] | caitlin: | someone's watching itv then |
| [14:07:53] | caitlin: | it's pretty tragic that they feel the need to advertise "don't kill yourself" in that manner |
| [14:07:55] | juski: | yeh gonna watch some mythtv shortly |
| [14:08:21] | caitlin: | SeaWeed, what's the error? |
| [14:08:35] | juski: | I dunno why they even feel the need... like something such as that will make ITV suddenly socially aware. sheesh |
| [14:08:44] | SeaWeed: | think it is Trying to conect to Wrong ip / port |
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| [14:08:56] | caitlin: | what's the error? |
| [14:09:08] | caitlin: | if it's wrong IP/PORT then it's not the db |
| [14:09:40] | caitlin: | if the info is borked, myth-setup usually reruns its self like for an initial install, asking for the language settings and stuff |
| [14:09:41] | SeaWeed: | let me get error |
| [14:09:45] | juski: | if you're on ubuntu/debian try looking in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [14:10:40] | caitlin: | damnit, mythmusic needs to have a "keep playing whilst i go root in my menus" option |
| [14:11:25] | caitlin: | .oO(boobs) |
| [14:12:10] | caitlin: | i wonder if i can flip all the colours in this stuff so it's all shades of pink |
| [14:12:31] | ** SeaWeed (caitlin) http://pastebin.com/848951 ** | |
| [14:12:51] | SeaWeed: | keeps Scrolling that info then crashs |
| [14:13:08] | caitlin: | is this a remote frontend? |
| [14:13:31] | SeaWeed: | No it is all on same pc |
| [14:13:32] | caitlin: | you need to set up the user in the users table in mysql |
| [14:14:23] | SeaWeed: | Was working left mythtv Running a Scan While i was sleep woke up to that error |
| [14:14:50] | juski: | caitlin: pinktube? I dunno what folks would say if I made a 'girly' theme ;) |
| [14:15:08] | caitlin: | some of us would say "thankyou" :P |
| [14:15:11] | caitlin: | nice big flowers |
| [14:15:16] | caitlin: | just say it's hawiian |
| [14:15:19] | juski: | I'll have a go |
| [14:15:24] | caitlin: | lol |
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| [14:15:37] | caitlin: | i wouldn't put much effort in |
| [14:15:52] | caitlin: | my gf came home, took three looks at blootube and said "hey, it's looking very professional" |
| [14:15:53] | juski: | I dunno if you've noticed, but I put as little effort in as possible ;) |
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| [14:19:15] | caitlin: | SeaWeed, I've got a host line in the mysql database in the user table with "%" for HOST (log in from anywhere) and the user as "mythtv" |
| [14:19:48] | caitlin: | i wonder if you shouldn't have specified your host name |
| [14:19:58] | caitlin: | you should probably have been using "localhost" in myth-setup |
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| [14:21:30] | caitlin: | i dunno why mythtv-setup wont start at all |
| [14:22:58] | SeaWeed: | yah i have tryed reseting to local |
| [14:23:04] | SeaWeed: | and set to pc ip |
| [14:23:21] | SeaWeed: | think also port may be wrong in myth-setup |
| [14:26:48] | SeaWeed: | grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"10.10.10.101.%" identified by "mythtv"; |
| [14:27:00] | SeaWeed: | i ran that command |
| [14:29:34] | Dagmar: | Hmm... |
| [14:29:45] | Dagmar: | I'm not so sure "10.10.10.101.%" was the right thing to say to it |
| [14:31:02] | SeaWeed: | hum |
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| [14:31:14] | Dagmar: | Are you perhaps on an IPv5 network? ;) |
| [14:33:31] | janneg: | juski: diff or whole file? I have also changed the position off the video preview. it was drawed over the description text |
| [14:34:11] | caitlin: | "mythtv"@"%" i think |
| [14:34:23] | Dagmar: | SeaWeed: I'll be less subtle... "10.10.10.101.%" will never match anything. |
| [14:34:31] | caitlin: | or mythtv @ specific ipv4 doohicky |
| [14:34:56] | caitlin: | Dagmar, maybe he's using the FULL OSI model |
| [14:35:21] | Dagmar: | And this would make an IPv4 address contain six dotted quads, how exactly? |
| [14:35:29] | Dagmar: | s/six/five/; |
| [14:35:38] | caitlin: | just that it's a crazy load of bollocks that could mean *anything* |
| [14:35:47] | caitlin: | i can't be arsed taking my cisco exams |
| [14:35:58] | Dagmar: | Actually, it can't mean anything. |
| [14:36:07] | caitlin: | well, if you're going to anal about it |
| [14:36:10] | caitlin: | i was just being silly |
| [14:36:14] | caitlin: | you're not a CCNA are you? |
| [14:36:14] | Dagmar: | "MySQL disallows matching on hostnames that start with digits and a dot." |
| [14:36:33] | Dagmar: | Hostnames, so not even 10.10.10.101.lamehaxor.com would match that |
| [14:37:07] | SeaWeed: | Excuse me i gave a typo |
| [14:37:09] | SeaWeed: | grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"10.10.10.%" identified by "mythtv"; |
| [14:37:12] | Dagmar: | If it started with numbers and a dot (which no DNS name should, by RFC no less!) then it has to be an IP as far as MySQL is concerned. |
| [14:37:34] | caitlin: | gosh! |
| [14:37:54] | SeaWeed: | But it Was working last nite with a Digit and a Dot and Works on aanother PC With Same setup |
| [14:38:14] | Dagmar: | OMG it works with digits *and* dots? |
| [14:38:17] | Dagmar: | Unthinkable! |
| [14:38:27] | juski: | janneg: just a diff would be fine I think |
| [14:39:00] | Dagmar: | SeaWeed: Did you flush privs after you set that? |
| [14:39:24] | SeaWeed: | yep my correct comand was |
| [14:39:26] | SeaWeed: | mysql -u root -p mythconverg |
| [14:39:26] | SeaWeed: | grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"10.10.10.%" identified by "mythtv"; |
| [14:39:26] | SeaWeed: | flush privileges; |
| [14:39:26] | SeaWeed: | quit |
| [14:40:26] | Dagmar: | so this other machine's process is running as the username mythtv, identd is enabled, and it's trying to login using the MySQL username 'mythtv' then? |
| [14:41:17] | SeaWeed: | the other PC is on a Sep Network |
| [14:41:27] | caitlin: | unthinkable, or "INCONCIEVABLE" |
| [14:41:40] | caitlin: | the princess bride should always be quoted correctly :oP |
| [14:41:51] | Dagmar: | I was quoting Catsby & Twisp, actually. |
| [14:41:55] | SeaWeed: | Never mind i Just Redo install ( Thanks For help any way ) |
| [14:42:28] | ** caitlin gets the feeling that Dagmar doesn't like her and slopes off to do other stuff ** | |
| [14:42:30] | juski: | this damn sudoku thing is hopeless. all I wanna do is play some numbers game but it wants to install software |
| [14:42:57] | juski: | caitlin: in a couple of minuts grab www.juski.co.uk/pinktube.tar.bz2 |
| [14:43:10] | caitlin: | lol |
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| [14:43:13] | juski: | it's just for fun |
| [14:43:29] | caitlin: | ok |
| [14:43:35] | juski: | some of it came out a bit wrong, but that's quick & dirty H/S/L adjustments fer ya |
| [14:43:56] | janneg: | juski: sent and http://websudoku.com/ is fine |
| [14:44:07] | juski: | ffs I'm gonna be rattling out themes in my sleep before long |
| [14:44:38] | juski: | caitlin: ready, but don't wget it :) |
| [14:44:46] | caitlin: | why? |
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| [14:45:37] | ** caitlin gets it the http way ** | |
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| [14:46:39] | orrion: | would anybody be willing to help out a noob? |
| [14:46:51] | Dagmar: | Are you on fire? |
| [14:46:58] | orrion: | lol |
| [14:47:14] | orrion: | dagmar: i have a pvr500 tuner |
| [14:47:42] | caitlin: | WOOHOO |
| [14:47:46] | orrion: | dagmar: when ever i switch from tv to the menu and try to go back to tv i lose my tuner |
| [14:47:56] | caitlin: | i have a pink mythtv install |
| [14:48:01] | caitlin: | it looks HORRIBLE :) |
| [14:48:20] | caitlin: | thanks juski |
| [14:48:28] | caitlin: | i can use this whenever i feel feminist |
| [14:48:29] | orrion: | the pvr 500 video quality is terrible |
| [14:48:53] | Dagmar: | Sounds like you need to look carefully at what it's saying in syslog when the ivtv module is being loaded. |
| [14:50:35] | orrion: | dagmar: thanks i'll try to look at that. i'm a noob, first i have to see how to check the syslog, lol...i'm running ubuntu 6.10 desktop |
| [14:50:53] | Dagmar: | It's in /var/log. Should be kinda obvious which file is there. Grep for "ivtv" |
| [14:51:19] | orrion: | dagmar: thanks |
| [14:51:34] | Dagmar: | I'll bet it has something nasty to say |
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| [14:53:41] | Dagmar: | Easier way... killall -9 mythbackend ; rmmod ivtv ; tail -f /var/log/syslog, then modprobe ivtv |
| [14:54:00] | orrion: | ok |
| [14:55:24] | juski: | caitlin: mostly my web redirector.. screws up wget |
| [14:55:38] | juski: | but hey it's dirty cheap :) |
| [14:56:06] | caitlin: | yer, i know how it goes. i've got colo in an ISP, but i'm too cheap to buy domains, so i use the dyndns stuff |
| [14:56:08] | juski: | thanks janneg :) |
| [14:56:20] | orrion: | dagmar: so far i hang after tail -f /var/log/syslog |
| [14:56:46] | Dagmar: | So add an & to the end of it, or use another terminal to do the modprobe |
| [14:56:54] | Dagmar: | For the record, `tail` does not "hang |
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| [14:56:56] | orrion: | cool |
| [14:57:03] | caitlin: | -f means "follow" it reads the end of the file and keeps adding to it as new stuff turns up |
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| [14:57:26] | asperon: | does mythstream use the default video player? i can get myth to show wmv files, but when i try to stream them all i get is sound? |
| [14:58:21] | juski: | asperon: you'd need win32 codecs installed, prolly |
| [14:58:40] | juski: | though mythstream's player is based on mplayer, not myth's internal one |
| [14:58:57] | juski: | one of the reasons why it was never made an official plugin |
| [14:58:58] | asperon: | juski: i have them, and mplayer is playing wmv outside of the stream |
| [14:59:55] | juski: | take it up with the mythstream maintainer then :) |
| [15:00:01] | asperon: | ok =) |
| [15:00:35] | juski: | and while you're on, sweet talk them into making changes to get it incorporated properly ;) |
| [15:01:08] | Paladine: | juski, just play gnome sudoko |
| [15:01:12] | Paladine: | it is included with gnome |
| [15:01:13] | orrion: | dagmar: current syslog show nothing about ivtv, however looking a yesterdays logs it has ivtv0 warning 1000 ms time out waiting for firmware |
| [15:01:39] | Dagmar: | Did you put the two correct firmware files in the right place? |
| [15:01:40] | orrion: | dagmar: and another failed api call error |
| [15:01:44] | asperon: | does mplayer use the win32 codecs still? |
| [15:02:00] | Paladine: | man ivtv has goten much easier since I last installed it |
| [15:02:11] | Paladine: | they have an ubuntu package that does it all for you now |
| [15:02:17] | defend: | juski loven the blootube man |
| [15:02:19] | orrion: | as far as i know, ubuntu streamlined it with 6.10 so it was all pretty automated |
| [15:02:39] | Paladine: | orrion, yeah I just installed edgy yesterday and ivtv was a breeze |
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| [15:03:01] | orrion: | thanks for the confirmation Paladine |
| [15:03:37] | orrion: | dagmar: thank you for your help you gave me a new direction to search |
| [15:03:40] | Paladine: | the howto on the ubuntu doc site givesall th instructions needed for upgrading it to future new kernels again |
| [15:03:48] | Paladine: | no need to manually rebuild it anymore |
| [15:04:03] | orrion: | i know, it was super easy |
| [15:04:21] | Paladine: | one of the most pleasant suprises I received upgrading from dapper to edgy |
| [15:04:50] | orrion: | paladine: were you 64 bit with dapper |
| [15:05:19] | Paladine: | no, beean there, got the chroot t-shirt and switched back to 32bit :) |
| [15:05:30] | Dagmar: | hehe |
| [15:05:34] | Dagmar: | Not uncommon, that |
| [15:05:38] | orrion: | i found matching versions of ivtv and the 64bit kernel was a paaaaain |
| [15:05:58] | Paladine: | 90% of anything you want to do in 64bit is a pain :) |
| [15:06:06] | defend: | :< |
| [15:06:09] | orrion: | couldn't use the latest ivtv driver |
| [15:06:13] | defend: | my 64 is fine |
| [15:06:15] | Paladine: | 64bit doesn't mean 2x as fast |
| [15:06:19] | Paladine: | it means 2x as painful |
| [15:06:25] | orrion: | so it had a tin sound in the audio |
| [15:06:48] | defend: | granted emacs xmms are normaly pretty easy |
| [15:06:50] | defend: | hehe |
| [15:07:00] | Paladine: | one thing I have noticed with the latest ivtv, text is not as clear |
| [15:07:05] | Dagmar: | Nah, it just means "Abandon All 32-bit Apps" |
| [15:07:28] | orrion: | yeah, in hind-sight i would have waited on the amd64, 590 chipset drivers were a pain with anything other than ubuntu |
| [15:07:29] | defend: | 64 bit has saved my ass more then once ;p |
| [15:07:38] | Paladine: | I use skytv with my myth setup so when I change channel there is an OSD from the STB |
| [15:07:46] | caitlin: | i'm on 64bit and ive not noticed anything different |
| [15:07:47] | Paladine: | the OSD text is not as clear as it used to be |
| [15:08:52] | Paladine: | I have to write a script later to fix all my channels properly |
| [15:09:06] | Dagmar: | Call up Sky technical support and complain the text is blurry this evening |
| [15:09:11] | Dagmar: | Be sure and slur your words a little |
| [15:09:13] | Paladine: | I will be damned if I am going to manually edit over 500 channels in mythtv-setup |
| [15:09:19] | orrion: | whats wrong with your channels |
| [15:09:24] | Paladine: | channel management leaves a -lot- to be desired in mythtv atm |
| [15:09:42] | defend: | heaar that paladine |
| [15:09:52] | defend: | but isnt 500 a little exsesive |
| [15:09:53] | defend: | lol |
| [15:10:05] | Paladine: | I was entering all the frquencies manually last night |
| [15:10:19] | defend: | haha |
| [15:10:24] | defend: | i would never do that |
| [15:10:25] | Paladine: | it wouldn't be so bad if it didn't send you right back to the top of the list after each edit |
| [15:10:33] | defend: | i would cancal my cable first |
| [15:10:41] | Paladine: | and if you could do things like delete multiple channels at once |
| [15:11:02] | Paladine: | or press a letter on the keyboard and it takes you to that point in the list of channels (alpha searching) |
| [15:11:09] | orrion: | any idea why i can't rip dvd's , i run mtd -d in the background but the rip/transcode menu sends me in circles pressing 0 |
| [15:11:12] | Paladine: | it would be much less painful |
| [15:11:44] | defend: | orrion i use acidrip i like x264 ;o |
| [15:11:58] | Paladine: | defend, I have skytv, thats a lot of channels |
| [15:12:20] | Paladine: | but because it is a stb decoder, I have to manually edit all the channels to work with my usb>rf controller |
| [15:12:22] | orrion: | defend: does it work along with mythtv, cause i'll switch |
| [15:12:57] | defend: | i just got hd which required me to get digi now i got some insane amount of chans :/ i want to call them and tell them to block all chans but like 10chans |
| [15:13:16] | orrion: | lol |
| [15:13:25] | defend: | orrin no i do it through x |
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| [15:14:05] | Paladine: | so I managed to find a complete channel list for skytv last night (after a lot of searching) including channel name and number |
| [15:14:09] | defend: | myth video has made my life alot easyer |
| [15:14:27] | defend: | no more going through 1000 dvd cases :) |
| [15:14:30] | Paladine: | so gonna work with that list to rebuild the channels table |
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| [15:14:57] | Paladine: | although I have to question the sanity of creating a channel list in MS Word with 3 column formatting and then publishing it on the web |
| [15:14:59] | orrion: | you must have a lot of disk space |
| [15:15:09] | defend: | paladine would it be easyer to make a channels.conf and then import it |
| [15:15:16] | Paladine: | wtf he didn't do it as a comma or tab delimited file is beyond me |
| [15:15:28] | defend: | orrion x264 makes a full movie like 400m |
| [15:15:48] | orrion: | wow! |
| [15:15:50] | Paladine: | defend, I know nothing about channels.conf |
| [15:15:53] | Dagmar: | CPU LOAD AT 100% FTW |
| [15:15:56] | Paladine: | I am new to channels |
| [15:16:08] | Paladine: | I only had a single channel on my old setup |
| [15:16:10] | defend: | or paladine maybe look for a perl import script? or write one |
| [15:16:32] | Paladine: | defend, I was just gonna write one and use it to rewrite the xmltv files too |
| [15:17:19] | Paladine: | defend http://www.wildsat.com/ <- I have his list to work with |
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| [15:18:42] | Paladine: | as you can see, we have a few channels |
| [15:19:53] | defend: | paladine where are the frequencys? |
| [15:20:19] | Paladine: | well therein lies the rub |
| [15:20:46] | Paladine: | in my situation, the frequency needs to be set to the same as the channel number |
| [15:21:12] | defend: | ? |
| [15:21:14] | Paladine: | I have a nifty little lirc alternative you see |
| [15:21:32] | Paladine: | I have a usb>rf controller, which sends the channel changing signals to my set top box |
| [15:21:39] | Paladine: | as opposed to an IR blaster |
| [15:22:12] | Paladine: | and it uses the frequency data for the channel to do it |
| [15:22:22] | defend: | ahh |
| [15:22:23] | defend: | ok |
| [15:22:32] | Paladine: | so for example Sky One is channel 106 here |
| [15:22:40] | Paladine: | so I set the frequency to 106 |
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| [15:22:59] | Paladine: | then when I want to change to that channel the controller sends 106 <select> to the box |
| [15:23:05] | Paladine: | and the box changes channel |
| [15:23:13] | defend: | hmm |
| [15:23:23] | defend: | let me find the layout of a channel.conf |
| [15:24:05] | Paladine: | unfortunately xmltv is lacking in the UK as well |
| [15:24:27] | Paladine: | only a small percentage of available channels seems to be covered by the british xmltv sites |
| [15:24:47] | Paladine: | well site I should say |
| [15:25:09] | Paladine: | we only have one xmltv epg providerin the UK |
| [15:25:58] | defend: | i think if you do callsign:freq in channels.conf |
| [15:26:05] | defend: | you should be able to import it |
| [15:27:31] | defend: | so do that ;p |
| [15:27:56] | Paladine: | I just have to convert this stupid word document in a comma delimited file |
| [15:28:07] | defend: | hehe |
| [15:28:23] | defend: | thats better then doing it by hand |
| [15:28:29] | Paladine: | and then add the relevant xmltv IDs |
| [15:29:35] | Paladine: | not doing it yet though I just got up like 30 minutes ago |
| [15:29:40] | Paladine: | need my meds first |
| [15:29:54] | Paladine: | which I just finished rolling |
| [15:30:29] | defend: | lol |
| [15:30:37] | defend: | thats alright i got up went to work |
| [15:30:45] | defend: | to find out we arnt open |
| [15:30:46] | defend: | lol |
| [15:30:49] | Paladine: | lol |
| [15:30:50] | defend: | so tired |
| [15:30:57] | defend: | was up till like 4 |
| [15:31:08] | defend: | woke up for work at like 8 |
| [15:31:13] | Paladine: | 4? |
| [15:31:14] | defend: | so stupid |
| [15:31:27] | defend: | new years ;p |
| [15:31:29] | Paladine: | I can't even remember the last time I was in bed before 6am |
| [15:31:50] | defend: | oh haha i only went to bed cause i though i had to work |
| [15:32:19] | ** BULLE tries to focus his red eyes on the screen ** | |
| [15:32:45] | ** defend hands bulle a cup of coffee ** | |
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| [15:33:03] | ** shellshark could use one also ;) ** | |
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| [15:33:48] | defend: | come on over got a whole pot lol since i though it was a work day and roomate wasnt even here |
| [15:33:49] | ** Paladine just lit his meds ** | |
| [15:34:05] | defend: | if not i will be buggen in like an hour |
| [15:34:17] | defend: | dark roast 12 cups black weee |
| [15:34:47] | Paladine: | yeah I shold go kick my espresso machine into action when I finish this spliff |
| [15:35:01] | defend: | i could never due that |
| [15:35:02] | defend: | lol |
| [15:35:18] | defend: | expresso and cotton mouthj = bad |
| [15:35:32] | Paladine: | its an espresso machine but I will be making latte with it |
| [15:35:41] | defend: | ahh |
| [15:35:48] | Paladine: | does espresso, lattes, cappucinos and mochas |
| [15:35:53] | defend: | i havent used mine in so long :/ |
| [15:36:00] | Paladine: | I got mine for xmas :) |
| [15:36:05] | defend: | probly doesnt even work anymore |
| [15:36:13] | defend: | ah dude nice gift ;p |
| [15:36:21] | defend: | they must want you to burn out |
| [15:36:22] | defend: | haha |
| [15:36:32] | Paladine: | perfect gift for a geek :) |
| [15:36:43] | defend: | i remember when i first got mine i was up for like days |
| [15:36:59] | defend: | expresso + loads of sugar wow |
| [15:37:00] | Paladine: | I don't sleep very much anyway so thats not a probloem for me |
| [15:37:07] | defend: | who needs red bull |
| [15:37:17] | shellshark: | Paladine: i was wondering what you meant by "lit his meds", then i figured it out heh |
| [15:37:29] | Paladine: | the only things with wings in this house are the missus santary towels |
| [15:37:34] | shellshark: | mmmm mochas |
| [15:37:41] | defend: | ya i normaly sleep like 4–6h but i also live on stimualents |
| [15:37:45] | shellshark: | Paladine: oh man that's sick ;) |
| [15:38:12] | Paladine: | shellshark, at least I am not a vampire |
| [15:38:15] | shellshark: | defend: when i do sleep, it's like 14–16 hours, but i only sleep like once or twice a week heh |
| [15:38:21] | Paladine: | I hear they make good vampiric tea bags ;) |
| [15:38:22] | shellshark: | Paladine: dont hate |
| [15:38:30] | shellshark: | :p |
| [15:38:53] | shellshark: | i cant wait for my PVR-350 to show up :-D |
| [15:39:04] | defend: | i love my 500 ;p |
| [15:39:09] | defend: | good company |
| [15:39:22] | shellshark: | defend: i heard the 500 had lower picture quality or something |
| [15:39:31] | shellshark: | defend: on the TV-out side of things |
| [15:39:34] | Paladine: | missus just called me a sick twisted bastard lol |
| [15:39:35] | defend: | i dont know mine are pretty nice |
| [15:39:43] | defend: | oh i dont use tv out |
| [15:39:55] | shellshark: | Paladine: she's a smart one, you should hang on to her ;) |
| [15:40:03] | Paladine: | hehehehe |
| [15:40:04] | ** shellshark grins evilly ** | |
| [15:40:08] | shellshark: | defend: ah |
| [15:40:15] | shellshark: | defend: i have no need for dual tuners really |
| [15:40:17] | defend: | lol if she lets you use the comp when she is awake she is a keeper |
| [15:40:18] | defend: | lol |
| [15:40:27] | Paladine: | so you all having a good new year so far? |
| [15:40:44] | shellshark: | defend: the PVR-350 is more of a trial thing.... if I end up needing dual tuners i'll get a 500 in addition to the 350 ;) |
| [15:40:45] | defend: | neither do i till my roomate goes on a law and order queuing lol |
| [15:40:45] | Paladine: | I live in front of my comp |
| [15:41:08] | Paladine: | well I should say comps |
| [15:41:23] | defend: | i hate new years |
| [15:41:24] | defend: | haha |
| [15:41:36] | shellshark: | i dont even have a TV near the box i'm gonna use for my DVR, and I don't have ethernet in my living room... |
| [15:41:43] | defend: | i dont use comps except work and winter |
| [15:41:44] | defend: | lol |
| [15:42:18] | cornell: | Morning all.... I've an Hauppage 350 installed and setup. I've also got an Avermedia M150-D card installed, I haven't "configured" it. I don't want my myth to go down for a while (a long while) if there's a problem configuring the Avermedia... Anybody know if the Avermedia configures nicely, mythtv .20 have the drivers etc.? |
| [15:42:46] | shellshark: | cornell: what's the M150-D for? |
| [15:42:49] | Paladine: | last I checked the avermedia's were not mythtv compatable |
| [15:43:03] | defend: | sorry mate never used any avermedia |
| [15:43:11] | cornell: | It's a TV-capture card, shellshark. |
| [15:43:23] | Paladine: | from what I read they are strictly windows MCE only |
| [15:43:34] | shellshark: | cornell: why would you not use a hauppage? |
| [15:44:01] | cornell: | Paladine... so it might be better to kiss off the $30, or sell it on ebay. And get a different card. |
| [15:44:12] | defend: | wahoo mysql is compiled weee |
| [15:44:21] | Paladine: | yeah I almost bought one by mistake when I was looking for a pvr150 |
| [15:44:24] | shellshark: | defend: 5.1 I hope? :) |
| [15:44:35] | Paladine: | they are a cunch of bunts naking it like they did |
| [15:44:39] | defend: | i am not sure what ever is in portage ;p |
| [15:44:40] | Paladine: | naming |
| [15:44:42] | cornell: | shellshark: I've a 350 hauppage, need a second input, it was cheap. |
| [15:45:02] | shellshark: | cornell: why not get a 150? :) |
| [15:45:10] | defend: | i am just doing it on my lappy so i can work on company stuff with out inet |
| [15:45:15] | shellshark: | btw, what does a 350 offer that a 150 doesn't? |
| [15:45:28] | Paladine: | hardware encoding |
| [15:45:36] | shellshark: | ah cool |
| [15:45:37] | Paladine: | or was it decoding |
| [15:45:39] | Paladine: | one or the other |
| [15:45:46] | cornell: | Both, Paladine |
| [15:45:46] | shellshark: | so i made the right choice getting the 350 :) |
| [15:45:46] | jduggan_: | the 150 is a hardware encoder.. |
| [15:45:55] | Paladine: | it is decoding then :p |
| [15:46:10] | Paladine: | cornell, the 150 only encodes, the 350 decodes and encodes |
| [15:46:16] | ** cornell forgets if converting the tv to digital is encoding or decoding ** | |
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| [15:47:07] | defend: | i love emerge |
| [15:47:09] | defend: | ;p |
| [15:47:24] | defend: | now if only i could get my stupid mouse to work |
| [15:47:25] | defend: | lol |
| [15:47:30] | cornell: | I only need one en/decoder for computer to TV signal. If the 150 codes the TV signal to the computer that should be ok. |
| [15:47:57] | Paladine: | pvr150 is suitable for 99.9999999% of peoples needs |
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| [15:52:10] | sphery: | juski: Just to let you know (per your conversation in #mythtv), PNG previews are always generated. The (badly-named) switch ("GeneratePreviewPixmaps") only toggles whether they're displayed. |
| [15:52:39] | sphery: | The only way to disable preview thumbnail generation is to disable building of the frontend--which is an unsupported (and broken) configuration. |
| [15:53:39] | cornell: | What about adding a 500 to the 350 I already have? Or might it be better to setup another slave backend with a 500 in it. Which might also allow me to swap roles, making slave the master, when the master needs to go down for maintenance? |
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| [15:55:13] | sphery: | cornell: Swapping roles isn't so easy. Best bet is to do maintenance when it doesn't affect your recording/watching schedule. |
| [15:55:42] | sphery: | Most systems should handle 3 capture devices (the 350 and 2 in the 500) without problems. |
| [15:56:02] | jduggan_: | do the nova-t usb sticks have hardware encoders on them? |
| [15:56:23] | SeaWeed: | can any 1 tell me where ( mytht ) stores transponder files or are they also stored in DB |
| [15:56:33] | sphery: | I set up an Athlon XP 2000+ as a combined frontend/master backend and it has 4 PVR-250's and can record 4 shows, commflag one, and playback another all at the same time. |
| [15:57:14] | cornell: | Problem with that, sphery, is that sometimes, when I try maintenance.... it doesn't go so well (ie quick) |
| [15:57:48] | defend: | hehe aint that the truth |
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| [16:02:46] | cornell: | My.... "expertise" is still growing ;-) |
| [16:03:30] | Zider: | Knowledge base updated.. ;) |
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| [16:06:16] | Paladine: | well I now have a tab delimited list of all the channels and their corresponding channel numbers/frequencies |
| [16:06:24] | Paladine: | now to add the xmltv IDs |
| [16:07:35] | cornell: | And, Paladine, as an example of my expertise.... I've not a clue what you just talked about ;-) |
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| [16:08:16] | Paladine: | cornell, I am writing a script to update the channel database with 437 channels |
| [16:10:04] | cornell: | I thought that was a normal part of ... what, mythfilldatabase? |
| [16:10:43] | Paladine: | I do't have a "normal" setup |
| [16:10:51] | Paladine: | I have an external tuner |
| [16:11:49] | Paladine: | all my channels come in via svideo |
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| [16:13:02] | cornell: | Ah |
| [16:13:17] | jduggan_: | Paladine: ur stb have svideo out? |
| [16:13:22] | Paladine: | yes |
| [16:15:09] | Paladine: | actually it is a good box considering it is 6 years old |
| [16:15:55] | Paladine: | has rf out x2, scart x2, composite video and audio, and svideo |
| [16:16:27] | Paladine: | so I use the RCA audio into my pvr150 and svideo into the 150 as well |
| [16:17:22] | Paladine: | and rf2 can be used to carry IR signals too |
| [16:17:29] | jduggan_: | yea |
| [16:17:36] | jduggan_: | every house i go to with sky |
| [16:17:41] | jduggan_: | i check for svideo output |
| [16:17:46] | jduggan_: | friends/family etch |
| [16:17:48] | jduggan_: | -h |
| [16:17:50] | Paladine: | the newer boxes don't have svideo out |
| [16:17:54] | jduggan_: | never saw one.. but i hear they exist |
| [16:18:04] | jduggan_: | well this is is, our box is the original pace box |
| [16:18:06] | Paladine: | we got a new box with multiroom, and I swapped it for our old box |
| [16:18:12] | jduggan_: | we had sky digital the month it was launched |
| [16:18:14] | Paladine: | cos the new one didn't have svideo out |
| [16:18:16] | jduggan_: | that doesnt have it |
| [16:18:26] | Paladine: | I have the grundig dv3 here |
| [16:18:29] | Paladine: | which is a pace box |
| [16:18:31] | jduggan_: | ic |
| [16:18:33] | jduggan_: | yea |
| [16:18:40] | jduggan_: | well anyway |
| [16:18:46] | jduggan_: | i just moved house |
| [16:18:50] | jduggan_: | decided not to get sky |
| [16:19:11] | Paladine: | we have sky+ and 2 sky multiroom subscriptions here |
| [16:19:32] | jduggan_: | i used a scart->component cable for my setup |
| [16:19:34] | jduggan_: | worked fine |
| [16:19:51] | jduggan_: | although my pvr150 doesnt have rca input |
| [16:19:55] | jduggan_: | just one sound line in |
| [16:20:23] | jduggan_: | so i used an rca to single phono cable? |
| [16:20:26] | jduggan_: | think its phono |
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| [16:21:01] | Paladine: | yeah 3.5mm stereo jack? |
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| [16:21:46] | Paladine: | I wish my regexfu was better |
| [16:22:12] | Paladine: | I could write a script to pull all the xmltv channel IDs from the channel_id file and dump them into my channel list |
| [16:22:33] | Paladine: | but because I am medicated I will have to add them all manually |
| [16:22:47] | Paladine: | because I will be damned if I am gonna try and figure out the regex for it |
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| [16:25:30] | Paladine: | jduggan_, I got one of those nifty usb>rf2 controllers to change the channel on the sky and it is real nifty, much better than relying on lirc |
| [16:25:36] | Paladine: | the only downside is the channel setup |
| [16:25:56] | Paladine: | I am suprised no-one has put a script up on the web to do it |
| [16:26:02] | jduggan_: | i just used the ir blaster.. seemed to work fuss free |
| [16:26:10] | jduggan_: | did you make the rf-usb cable? |
| [16:26:12] | jduggan_: | or buy it |
| [16:26:24] | Paladine: | there is a knoppix script, but a: it is broke and b: it uses a channel list which is incomplete |
| [16:26:31] | Paladine: | I bought it |
| [16:27:16] | jduggan_: | from where? |
| [16:27:25] | Paladine: | sec will get the link |
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| [16:28:34] | Paladine: | http://www.heenan.me.uk/control-sky-from-pc/ |
| [16:28:45] | Paladine: | wasn't cheap (41 quid) but it is a nice piece of kit |
| [16:29:28] | jduggan_: | aah |
| [16:29:31] | jduggan_: | yea i saw that site |
| [16:29:56] | jduggan_: | they used to have schematic so you can build your own on that site |
| [16:30:06] | jduggan_: | but i guess they took it down because ppl wouldnt pay them for the kit :O |
| [16:30:08] | hexidigital: | Paladine:: skybox ~= mythtv? |
| [16:30:11] | Paladine: | yeah I tried to find a schematic |
| [16:30:19] | Paladine: | would have only cost about a tenner to build I expect |
| [16:30:25] | defend: | o wow |
| [16:30:26] | Paladine: | but the guy whomakes them is very communicable |
| [16:30:40] | defend: | i should look at my cc statements once in a while :/ |
| [16:30:49] | Paladine: | hexidigital, ? |
| [16:30:59] | defend: | never noticed an intrest rate of 15% |
| [16:31:02] | defend: | dam |
| [16:31:14] | hexidigital: | Paladine:: nevermind... i misunderstood |
| [16:31:22] | hexidigital: | Paladine:: forgive me for my stupidity :) |
| [16:31:34] | Paladine: | defend, cc bills are like air, I don't have to see them to know they are there ;) |
| [16:32:14] | defend: | lol |
| [16:32:22] | Paladine: | we got any perlfu master in the house? |
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| [16:32:47] | defend: | well only reason it caught me off gaurd is cause i have another card same company and it is locked 8.9 |
| [16:33:11] | Paladine: | I want someone to write me a regex script that will pull the xmltv channel ids from the channel_id file and append them to the correct lines of my channels file ;) |
| [16:34:15] | Paladine: | defend, I always laugh at the "Guaranteed Acceptance" cc junk mail I get through the door |
| [16:34:21] | Paladine: | with interest rates of 65+% |
| [16:34:36] | Paladine: | like do they honestly think I would get one? |
| [16:36:47] | Paladine: | iirc cc interest rates in the US are capped by the government |
| [16:36:51] | Paladine: | in the UK they aren't |
| [16:37:00] | Paladine: | a company can charge 500% on their cc if they wish |
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| [16:38:19] | Dagmar: | Your country is small enough that a disgruntled customer can come over with some gasoline and rags to handle the "regulatory" aspect of things |
| [16:38:57] | jduggan_: | hai Max0 |
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| [16:39:22] | Max0: | hey |
| [16:39:31] | Max0: | happy new year |
| [16:40:27] | defend: | lol dagmar |
| [16:40:53] | defend: | but some of us americans dont care we can use there cc and by a plane ticket and charge the gas |
| [16:41:05] | Dagmar: | I've only once been lucky enough to handle regulation of unsolicited commercial email in person |
| [16:41:23] | Dagmar: | It only cost me about $5 for the spray paint |
| [16:41:47] | defend: | lol |
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| [16:43:57] | jduggan_: | how is your dvb-t workin Max0 |
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| [16:44:37] | Max0: | i got sound and video with a range of players but it rapes my pc and is very juddery |
| [16:44:55] | Max0: | mplayer is fine for video and doesnt rape it as much |
| [16:44:59] | Max0: | but no sound |
| [16:45:15] | Max0: | but we where having power cuts so ill left that pc off |
| [16:45:16] | jduggan_: | icic |
| [16:45:36] | Max0: | its a 3ghz but onboard video |
| [16:45:51] | caitlin: | a 3 gig machines?! |
| [16:45:59] | caitlin: | and it's juddery? |
| [16:46:01] | caitlin: | owch |
| [16:46:11] | Max0: | yuh :( |
| [16:46:20] | caitlin: | something is "buggered" there |
| [16:46:21] | jduggan_: | probably shit drivers |
| [16:46:26] | jduggan_: | is it fine in windows? |
| [16:46:45] | Max0: | i havnt got windows on that box anymore |
| [16:46:54] | Max0: | never tried it tbh |
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| [16:47:00] | Max0: | with the card |
| [16:47:04] | jduggan_: | never used the card in windows? |
| [16:47:12] | jduggan_: | did you buy is specifically for myth? |
| [16:47:18] | Max0: | in a different box i have |
| [16:47:19] | jduggan_: | it* |
| [16:47:29] | Max0: | no got it from work for free |
| [16:47:37] | jduggan_: | ah right |
| [16:47:47] | Max0: | as it was in a pc in the board room hooked upto a projector |
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| [16:48:21] | Max0: | i duno if its a driver or kubuntu issue |
| [16:48:36] | Max0: | ill keep playing :) |
| [16:48:38] | jduggan_: | is it a framegrabber card? |
| [16:49:24] | Max0: | im not sure |
| [16:49:32] | Max0: | possibly |
| [16:49:40] | Dagmar: | Is IS TEH SATAN |
| [16:49:57] | Max0: | its got 2 cards analog and digital |
| [16:49:59] | defend: | what is satan? |
| [16:50:05] | Dagmar: | framegrabbers |
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| [16:50:27] | Max0: | framgrabbers suck? |
| [16:50:28] | defend: | i wont even ask ;p |
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| [16:52:28] | defend: | wahoo my nuvexport is done |
| [16:52:43] | Max0: | i could move the files of my file server and try the card in that |
| [16:52:49] | Max0: | and install X etc |
| [16:53:14] | aloyarc: | does mythtv have a legal implementation of dvd reader/writer for watching movies (usa) |
| [16:53:22] | Dagmar: | Nope |
| [16:53:26] | Dagmar: | Not like that stops us to |
| [16:53:31] | Dagmar: | s/to/tho'/; |
| [16:54:12] | aloyarc: | has no comercial entitiy pursued this for linux ? |
| [16:54:30] | Dagmar: | Novell/SuSE did. We're still waiting on them to crank out the "licenced" player code |
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| [17:00:52] | defi__3x: | anyone here running gentoo and using a pvr-150? |
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| [17:01:14] | aloyarc: | Dagmar don't hold your breath, i bet it will be wrapped in ms licensing |
| [17:01:22] | Dagmar: | Nope. |
| [17:02:53] | defend: | aguilera has such a powerful voice |
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| [17:03:58] | Dagmar: | ...now if she can just learn English |
| [17:05:29] | defend: | ah i dont need english as long as it is powerful/skilled |
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| [17:07:08] | Dagmar: | Yes, well, it's rumored she has some skills |
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| [17:07:46] | defend: | better the the current alterintives |
| [17:07:48] | defend: | lol |
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| [17:07:59] | defend: | music is lacking skill these days |
| [17:08:02] | Dagmar: | It would be easier to take her seriously if she didn't dance like a stripper high on cocaine. |
| [17:08:23] | defend: | ya but thats her its better then being fake |
| [17:08:24] | defend: | lol |
| [17:08:44] | defend: | cough britney |
| [17:09:18] | Dagmar: | She at least seems sober |
| [17:09:37] | Dagmar: | ...and she speaks Californian. |
| [17:10:00] | defend: | lol |
| [17:10:02] | juski: | meanwhile back in #mythtv-users |
| [17:10:12] | defend: | sup juski |
| [17:10:29] | defend: | realy digging the blootube |
| [17:11:12] | juski: | cool |
| [17:11:19] | juski: | try pinktube, the girly theme |
| [17:11:26] | defend: | :o |
| [17:11:37] | defend: | i will put it on my roomates |
| [17:11:38] | defend: | haha |
| [17:11:41] | juski: | actually I just realised that has connotations |
| [17:11:47] | caitlin: | HAHAH |
| [17:11:47] | juski: | pink tube |
| [17:11:50] | juski: | lol |
| [17:12:03] | caitlin: | i made juski make his tube pink |
| [17:12:14] | defend: | lol |
| [17:12:29] | defend: | my roomate will bug |
| [17:12:45] | defend: | i should del all the other themes so he cant change it |
| [17:12:57] | juski: | http://homepage.ntlworld.com/justin.hornsby2/ . . . tube.tar.bz2 |
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| [17:14:54] | jesterea: | Hi and a happy new year :) |
| [17:15:07] | defend: | juski is blootube-osd needed with blootube-wdie? |
| [17:15:15] | juski: | no, it's optional |
| [17:15:29] | defend: | cause the link on your site isnt working |
| [17:15:31] | juski: | I did consider being militant & having a script to delete all the other themes |
| [17:15:41] | defend: | lol |
| [17:15:44] | defend: | i would |
| [17:15:47] | juski: | haha lesson learned... don't do website updates when you're drunk |
| [17:15:54] | defend: | there is no other need for any other |
| [17:16:06] | jesterea: | I've got a problem with my mythtv, i set the time two weeks into the future by accident, and now it thinks that everything is recorded already. Any possibility to tell mythtv to reschedule everything? |
| [17:16:13] | defend: | lol i though that was a requirement |
| [17:16:53] | defend: | is the pink 4:3 or wide? |
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| [17:17:34] | juski: | fixed |
| [17:17:45] | juski: | pink is 4:3 and is only a joke |
| [17:18:21] | defend: | well i am installing it ;p |
| [17:18:36] | namuch: | does anyone know og an easy way to utilize 3 tuners with only one listing source? |
| [17:19:10] | juski: | yeah just assign the same video source to all 3 tuners |
| [17:19:57] | Dagmar: | I wasn't aware there was a *hard* way to do it. |
| [17:20:11] | juski: | manual mysql-fu :) |
| [17:20:13] | namuch: | nope, i'm using an hdtv 5500 for local qam hd channels, a firewire input for the non-local hd's and a standard ivtv input for all the lower tier channels |
| [17:20:44] | namuch: | the problem is a constant conflict about which channels are available to any given tuner |
| [17:20:49] | Dagmar: | You can set a tuner preference for each chanel. |
| [17:21:04] | juski: | so you need seperate video sources & lineups |
| [17:21:06] | namuch: | is that in the channel editor? |
| [17:21:38] | Dagmar: | Not sure. |
| [17:21:59] | Dagmar: | It's pretty straightforward to do on a per-recording basis |
| [17:22:14] | Dagmar: | ...but multiple sources would be the simpler way to set it up |
| [17:22:31] | namuch: | yeah, cept zap2it will only allow me one listing |
| [17:22:42] | Dagmar: | dur |
| [17:22:45] | juski: | so get some more accounts |
| [17:22:47] | Dagmar: | Make more than one account with them |
| [17:23:01] | namuch: | that seems, a little sloppy |
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| [17:23:14] | juski: | that seems, a little WHINEY |
| [17:23:20] | Dagmar: | heh |
| [17:23:27] | namuch: | yep...no argument there |
| [17:23:54] | namuch: | ftr it's zap2it that i'm not happy with |
| [17:25:21] | juski: | maybe they don't expect people to need more than one lineup |
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| [17:26:27] | Paladine: | hehehe about half way through adding the xmltv id's to my channel list now |
| [17:26:31] | Paladine: | god is this ever boring |
| [17:26:45] | defend: | wow is it normaly for nuvexport/mythtranscode to use 85% of ram of doing hd -> xvid? |
| [17:26:54] | defend: | its using like 900m of ram |
| [17:31:21] | juski: | hd -> xvid... ooo feel the quality |
| [17:32:34] | defend: | lol it was the dick clark new years thing but it is locking up my box |
| [17:32:35] | defend: | lol |
| [17:34:52] | defend: | wow mythtransode is eating up memory quick |
| [17:35:03] | defend: | 917m |
| [17:35:41] | defend: | wounder if ffmpeg is freaking |
| [17:36:24] | defi__3x: | hi all when I load my ivtv drivers it complains that modules aren't loaded when they are and its using them |
| [17:36:34] | defi__3x: | any reason for this? |
| [17:37:07] | juski: | defi__3x: maybe you didn't build them as modules? |
| [17:37:33] | defi__3x: | juski: no they're modules i have to modprobe them to use |
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| [18:11:37] | Maniaman: | I recently upgraded from fedora core 5 to fedora core 6 |
| [18:11:44] | Maniaman: | actually, it was a complete reinstall, but anyway |
| [18:11:53] | Maniaman: | now i am getting really bad prebuffering pauses |
| [18:12:07] | cesman: | aahhh... |
| [18:12:12] | cesman: | downgrade ;) |
| [18:12:44] | Maniaman: | and after fighting for 2 days, i really don't want to go back and downgrade |
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| [18:24:49] | cesman: | Maniaman: what all have you checked? |
| [18:25:20] | cesman: | perhaps I could suggest something |
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| [18:25:48] | cesman: | but unfortunately, there is no magic bullet to resolving pre-buffering pause |
| [18:25:56] | cesman: | at least non i'm aware of |
| [18:27:52] | kgbudz: | anyone running myth on the ps3? |
| [18:28:07] | kgbudz: | frontend |
| [18:28:19] | cesman: | anyone here have a ps3?! |
| [18:28:27] | kgbudz: | ya |
| [18:28:44] | kgbudz: | hold on |
| [18:29:23] | kgbudz: | i know a place where you can buy it |
| [18:29:51] | cesman: | some place other than ebay i hope |
| [18:29:59] | cesman: | and for less than $300?! |
| [18:30:21] | kgbudz: | nope on the less than 300 |
| [18:30:41] | kgbudz: | http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/store/index . . . are][sony]=1 |
| [18:30:48] | cesman: | oh! |
| [18:30:52] | kgbudz: | it comes pre loaded with YDL linux too |
| [18:30:59] | cesman: | they have bundles now?! |
| [18:31:05] | cesman: | cool1 |
| [18:31:12] | kgbudz: | bundles? |
| [18:31:26] | cesman: | ps3 + ydl |
| [18:31:49] | kgbudz: | ya, via terra soft |
| [18:31:58] | kgbudz: | they are a lisenced software vendor |
| [18:32:24] | kgbudz: | actually |
| [18:32:30] | kgbudz: | the website says orders wont ship until march |
| [18:32:37] | kgbudz: | i guess they are out |
| [18:32:53] | kgbudz: | nix that |
| [18:32:54] | cesman: | march |
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| [18:34:55] | neo_xp: | hi all |
| [18:35:31] | cesman: | hello |
| [18:36:12] | cesman: | if one could utilize the processing power of the ps3 to it's fullest, it would make a kickass workstation |
| [18:36:28] | cesman: | certainlly would be great for transcoding! |
| [18:36:38] | kgbudz: | ya, its 6 core |
| [18:36:44] | kgbudz: | it could have been 8 |
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| [18:37:08] | kgbudz: | but the gpu is locked down |
| [18:37:14] | kgbudz: | someone will have to crack it... |
| [18:37:42] | kgbudz: | who knows if that will happen |
| [18:38:58] | cesman: | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article . . . 14&num=1 |
| [18:38:59] | Paladine: | ok I now have a complete channel list for sky with the correct channel number and xmltv id for each channel |
| [18:39:05] | Paladine: | so getting there |
| [18:40:10] | neo_xp: | does any1 here have mythtv in kanotix ? |
| [18:40:45] | kgbudz: | the thing with the ps3 nvidia chip is that it probably has hardware protection |
| [18:40:53] | neo_xp: | i have problem to mysql |
| [18:41:07] | kgbudz: | and its custom, so they probably changed the whole instruction set, bus, etc |
| [18:41:19] | kgbudz: | im just speculating |
| [18:41:27] | cesman: | bastards |
| [18:41:50] | cesman: | I cannot say I care for the way sony has been acting... |
| [18:41:57] | kgbudz: | like someone has claimed they already cracked hddvd |
| [18:41:57] | cesman: | frelling drm |
| [18:42:06] | kgbudz: | but blu ray can change its encoding |
| [18:42:10] | kgbudz: | per disc |
| [18:42:12] | cesman: | yeah, I say that |
| [18:42:20] | cesman: | s/say/saw |
| [18:42:23] | kgbudz: | like sony is just protecting themselves |
| [18:42:37] | neo_xp: | kgbudz is good new i have ps3 with fedore core installl |
| [18:42:37] | kgbudz: | at least they gave a linux option |
| [18:42:43] | cesman: | by putting a rootkit on thier cds? |
| [18:42:50] | kgbudz: | haha |
| [18:43:13] | kgbudz: | nice, what version of fedora? |
| [18:43:21] | cesman: | that was pure bull |
| [18:43:30] | kgbudz: | ya, it was |
| [18:43:38] | cesman: | the gov, should have gone after them big time |
| [18:43:41] | kgbudz: | like the ps3 division is different than the music division |
| [18:43:58] | neo_xp: | version 5 |
| [18:44:09] | kgbudz: | you run myth on it? |
| [18:44:18] | cesman: | if joe citizen would have done something like that, her/his ass would have been in a sling |
| [18:44:22] | Max00: | yay think i sorted my issue out |
| [18:44:22] | neo_xp: | not yet |
| [18:44:25] | cesman: | it is still sony |
| [18:44:49] | cesman: | there is a thread on compiling on -dev mailing list |
| [18:45:01] | kgbudz: | i wonder how it works |
| [18:45:12] | kgbudz: | like video preformance wise |
| [18:45:13] | Maniaman: | cesman: I have tried almost everything on here: http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/XvMC#Prebuff . . . _with_Nvidia |
| [18:45:14] | neo_xp: | work with genpix? |
| [18:45:31] | kgbudz: | like im going to run ydl linux on mine |
| [18:45:36] | cesman: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . =ps3;#242005 |
| [18:45:55] | Maniaman: | except for BOB deointerlacing and 'Seperate video modes for GUI and TV playback' |
| [18:46:05] | kgbudz: | Maniaman, whats your problem? |
| [18:46:24] | Maniaman: | prebuffering pauses |
| [18:46:47] | kgbudz: | ? |
| [18:46:59] | kgbudz: | like there is a pause in the recorded video |
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| [18:47:14] | Maniaman: | live |
| [18:47:18] | Maniaman: | have not tried with recorded yet |
| [18:47:22] | kgbudz: | right, when you change channels? |
| [18:47:27] | Maniaman: | no |
| [18:47:28] | Maniaman: | just watching |
| [18:47:35] | kgbudz: | or, it randomly pauses? |
| [18:47:38] | Maniaman: | yeah |
| [18:47:46] | kgbudz: | might be a resource issue |
| [18:47:53] | Maniaman: | at one point i was getting prebuffering pauses every second |
| [18:47:54] | Maniaman: | literally |
| [18:47:59] | kgbudz: | live tv, NTSC? |
| [18:48:03] | JoeyJoeJo: | mythdvd has an internal dvd player, right? |
| [18:48:06] | Maniaman: | yes |
| [18:48:15] | kgbudz: | like check the cpu usage |
| [18:48:23] | kgbudz: | and the disc activity |
| [18:48:31] | kgbudz: | it could just be a bottle neck |
| [18:48:36] | Maniaman: | k |
| [18:48:37] | Maniaman: | hold |
| [18:48:38] | kgbudz: | what hardware are you running |
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| [18:49:48] | Maniaman: | nvidia geforce4 |
| [18:49:56] | Maniaman: | WinTV GO-Plus |
| [18:50:07] | GreyFoxx: | JoeyJoeJo: myth has an interna dvd player and mythdvd can use it instead of an external one |
| [18:50:18] | Maniaman: | 1.1ghz prcessor |
| [18:50:25] | Maniaman: | 336 mb RAM or something like that |
| [18:50:39] | kgbudz: | whats wintv go plus? |
| [18:50:40] | JoeyJoeJo: | GreyFoxx: So for the player command do I just specify Internal? |
| [18:50:41] | kgbudz: | bttv? |
| [18:50:51] | GreyFoxx: | JoeyJoeJo: right |
| [18:51:06] | JoeyJoeJo: | GreyFoxx: cool.. one more question, does it support menus? |
| [18:51:22] | [1]Jack3: | hey, im getting a blankscreen wheni click Watch TV, and mythtv found 2 chanels (its digital cable) |
| [18:51:30] | GreyFoxx: | JoeyJoeJo: YUp |
| [18:51:41] | kgbudz: | [1]Jack3, did you test the tv outside of mythtv |
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| [18:51:50] | [1]Jack3: | yeh it works |
| [18:52:02] | kgbudz: | did you setup mythtvsetup ? |
| [18:52:13] | kgbudz: | connecting cards to inputs |
| [18:52:16] | kgbudz: | correctly |
| [18:52:37] | kgbudz: | you probably have it misconfigured |
| [18:53:02] | Maniaman: | kgbudz: CPU looks to be hovering around 90–99% |
| [18:53:12] | kgbudz: | i think thats your prob |
| [18:53:24] | kgbudz: | your resourced got eaten up |
| [18:53:27] | kgbudz: | resources |
| [18:53:47] | kgbudz: | your running bttv? |
| [18:53:58] | Maniaman: | yeah |
| [18:54:07] | kgbudz: | consider getting a hardware mpeg2 card |
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| [18:54:20] | kgbudz: | or if using bttv, a better system |
| [18:54:32] | kgbudz: | what type of cpu? |
| [18:54:34] | sdlnxgk: | Happy New Year Everyone !!!! |
| [18:55:07] | Maniaman: | amd |
| [18:55:12] | kgbudz: | k6? |
| [18:55:17] | Maniaman: | athlon i think, not sure |
| [18:55:36] | kgbudz: | my first mythbox was a 1ghz |
| [18:55:39] | kgbudz: | slow box |
| [18:55:44] | kgbudz: | bttv sucked |
| [18:55:51] | kgbudz: | i got a pvr |
| [18:55:53] | kgbudz: | and it worked great |
| [18:56:08] | kgbudz: | i think myth was also on .10 |
| [18:56:12] | [1]Jack3: | so since im connected to a digital cable box, It says i need an outside tuner script |
| [18:56:14] | kgbudz: | 3–4 years ago |
| [18:56:15] | [1]Jack3: | where might I find that |
| [18:56:28] | kgbudz: | [1]Jack3, dont know |
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| [18:57:57] | ** cesman first had myth running on a duron w/ a bttv tuner ** | |
| [18:58:24] | kgbudz: | like you can do it on a slow machine |
| [18:58:41] | kgbudz: | just dont throw on a stock fc5, etc |
| [18:58:51] | cesman: | worked great if i used it to record and watch later |
| [18:58:54] | kgbudz: | you need to perforamance tweak it |
| [18:59:05] | cesman: | live tv would kill the processor |
| [18:59:32] | neo_xp: | dual core cpu intell is good for mthtv? |
| [18:59:35] | neo_xp: | 2.8? |
| [18:59:41] | neo_xp: | intel |
| [18:59:42] | kgbudz: | sure |
| [18:59:53] | kgbudz: | i run an amd xp 2000 |
| [18:59:57] | kgbudz: | works perfectly |
| [19:00:02] | kgbudz: | multiple pvr cards |
| [19:00:05] | neo_xp: | 2g rams |
| [19:00:06] | kgbudz: | tons of recordings, etc |
| [19:00:15] | kgbudz: | you dont need a pimped out system |
| [19:00:25] | kgbudz: | just get hardware mpeg2 tv cards |
| [19:00:31] | neo_xp: | and and nvidia 6800 gt |
| [19:00:33] | kgbudz: | then all the cpu is doing is moving memory around |
| [19:00:49] | neo_xp: | i like test hd channels |
| [19:01:31] | neo_xp: | i have genpix hardware |
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| [19:02:55] | kgbudz: | genpix? test hd channels? |
| [19:03:30] | neo_xp: | yes |
| [19:03:50] | neo_xp: | hardware for get hdtv channels |
| [19:04:07] | neo_xp: | 8spk turbo |
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| [19:05:23] | kgbudz: | nice |
| [19:05:29] | kgbudz: | over the air or cable? |
| [19:06:13] | neo_xp: | air |
| [19:06:50] | kgbudz: | what tv out are you doing? |
| [19:06:56] | kgbudz: | 480i, 720p? |
| [19:07:48] | kgbudz: | im considering upgrading my mythtv to hdtv |
| [19:08:11] | kgbudz: | how big is 30 minutes of mpeg2 hdtv? |
| [19:08:12] | cesman: | do it, do it1 |
| [19:08:26] | neo_xp: | and 1080 |
| [19:08:27] | kgbudz: | 480i is about 1gb |
| [19:08:56] | cesman: | an hour is about 6 gigs |
| [19:09:00] | kgbudz: | not bad |
| [19:09:02] | neo_xp: | <kgbudz> can pm fast? |
| [19:09:09] | kgbudz: | ? |
| [19:09:26] | kgbudz: | neo_xp, what country are you from? |
| [19:09:32] | neo_xp: | need help about set mysql for mythtv |
| [19:09:54] | neo_xp: | puerto rico sorry for my bad english |
| [19:10:34] | kgbudz: | what sort of mysql help you need |
| [19:11:01] | neo_xp: | i get error when i try to run mysqladmin -u root password |
| [19:11:23] | neo_xp: | in kanotix distro |
| [19:12:23] | kgbudz: | dont use password |
| [19:12:25] | kgbudz: | use -p |
| [19:12:31] | kgbudz: | and i think you need to pass it a command as well |
| [19:12:34] | kgbudz: | what are you trying to do |
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| [19:17:47] | Inssomniak: | anyone seen this flood the console while watching channel? audio waiting for space on soundcard: have 96 need 6144 |
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| [19:24:26] | kgbudz: | i get tons of messages on the console |
| [19:24:34] | kgbudz: | all sorts of 'errors' |
| [19:24:46] | kgbudz: | my frontend log once filled up my entire fs |
| [19:24:57] | kgbudz: | it was like 4gb |
| [19:25:55] | kgbudz: | i put all my logs into files |
| [19:26:01] | kgbudz: | it has saved my ass a few times |
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| [19:26:25] | Inssomniak: | what does "broadcast free space avail" mean? |
| [19:27:20] | kgbudz: | where do you see it |
| [19:27:43] | kgbudz: | neo_xp, does 8PSK-to-USB2 steal dish network tv? |
| [19:27:43] | Jack3: | any ideas how i can setup my transmitter with lirc/knoppmyth |
| [19:27:47] | Inssomniak: | I see it on the frontend with -v most, about 5000 times a second |
| [19:28:11] | Jack3: | I just want to use it so I can schedule recordings and it will change the channel to that channel to record that |
| [19:29:04] | kgbudz: | Inssomniak, i wouldnt worry about it |
| [19:29:07] | kgbudz: | Jack3, dont know |
| [19:29:33] | kgbudz: | Jack3, are you talking about an ir blaster? |
| [19:30:21] | Inssomniak: | 8psk-to-usb adapter is otherwise known as a genpix, it is a DVB-S-usb adapter using the 8psk module from a dishnetwork receiver for HDTV 8PSK modulation |
| [19:30:25] | Jack3: | i guess that would be it kgbudz |
| [19:30:28] | Jack3: | i built one myself |
| [19:30:39] | kgbudz: | o wow |
| [19:30:41] | Jack3: | and I heard i ciould use lirc and mythtv could change the chennl for it |
| [19:30:57] | kgbudz: | it has an ir receiver? |
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| [19:31:31] | kgbudz: | if so, you need an ir blaster |
| [19:31:36] | kgbudz: | and mythtv will send ir signals to it |
| [19:31:40] | kgbudz: | to change channels, etc |
| [19:32:03] | kgbudz: | ive never done an ir blaster setup, so im not sure about the details |
| [19:32:11] | Jack3: | I have built an IR transmitter |
| [19:32:34] | Jack3: | so i hook it to my computer,and mythtv changes the channel on the cable box when i schedule it to record something |
| [19:32:42] | kgbudz: | yup |
| [19:32:54] | Jack3: | yeh i dont know how to set that up though |
| [19:33:06] | kgbudz: | im not sure either |
| [19:33:33] | kgbudz: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Using_an . . . _with_MythTV |
| [19:34:15] | neo_xp: | kgbudz mce remote work in mythtv? |
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| [19:35:19] | kgbudz: | not sure |
| [19:35:38] | kgbudz: | im looking for a keyboard/mouse remote |
| [19:35:46] | kgbudz: | if anyone knows where i can find 1 |
| [19:36:00] | kgbudz: | a keyboard/mouse in a remote form factor which plugs into ps2/usb |
| [19:38:14] | jesterea: | Hi once again :) – I'd like to know how mythwelcome knows if the computer has been switched on manually or by a timer? |
| [19:39:43] | jesterea: | thx, i already got an answer, that it's possibly comparing the time with the scheduled recording time... |
| [19:41:02] | kgbudz: | do you have anymore questions you would like to answer youself? |
| [19:41:17] | jesterea: | let's see... i'll tell you :) |
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| [19:43:04] | jesterea: | actually, i'm not really sure, so if you know that my theory is right, that would be good to know. |
| [19:43:22] | kgbudz: | not sure |
| [19:43:27] | kgbudz: | never even heard of mythwelcome |
| [19:44:04] | jesterea: | no problem... i used it for the first time today, too. |
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| [19:47:40] | DarkDrgn2k: | morning every one |
| [19:48:07] | DarkDrgn2k: | happy new year' |
| [19:49:35] | jesterea: | happy new year too |
| [19:49:50] | DarkDrgn2k: | LOL MAN rooms are dead new years da |
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| [19:49:59] | jesterea: | da |
| [19:50:29] | DarkDrgn2k: | got a silly question. Why does my DVB card work in one cmoputer.. but not another. |
| [19:50:30] | juski: | da indeed |
| [19:50:43] | DarkDrgn2k: | i mean it works..but for the life of me i CANT get a lock? any one ever experianced this before |
| [19:51:03] | juski: | DarkDrgn2k: remember me coming out with all that jive about the PSU ? |
| [19:51:14] | DarkDrgn2k: | juski: not really. LoL |
| [19:51:17] | DarkDrgn2k: | juski: whats the psu? |
| [19:51:18] | kgbudz: | what os are you running on these computers |
| [19:51:25] | DarkDrgn2k: | both fedora core6 |
| [19:51:33] | defend: | hmm wierd when i goto system info and tuner status it crashed the backend and out puts this MainServer: HandleRemoteEncoder(cmd GET_STATE) Unknown encoder: 3 any ideas what that is all about? |
| [19:51:34] | juski: | DarkDrgn2k: well, try a different, more beefy PSU |
| [19:51:35] | DarkDrgn2k: | but im 100% sure its a HARDWARE thing and os independent |
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| [19:51:45] | juski: | or measure the 12V rail |
| [19:51:49] | juski: | see how low it gets |
| [19:52:08] | jesterea: | @defend: i got the same thing since today |
| [19:52:08] | DarkDrgn2k: | LoL cause i poped it into my other computer and BOOM lock in 2 seconds |
| [19:52:19] | defend: | :/ |
| [19:52:19] | kgbudz: | what do you mean locked? |
| [19:52:21] | juski: | DarkDrgn2k: similar chipsets? |
| [19:52:28] | DarkDrgn2k: | Signal Lock |
| [19:52:29] | caitlin: | i had psu issues... uprated to a 600watt one, and my pc refuses to fuck up at all |
| [19:52:30] | juski: | kgbudz: he means a signal lock |
| [19:52:31] | kgbudz: | o |
| [19:52:45] | kgbudz: | ya, psu is very important |
| [19:52:46] | defend: | FN~jesterea, what version are you running and what cards do you have? |
| [19:52:48] | DarkDrgn2k: | Um ones an ASUS the other an ABIT |
| [19:52:49] | juski: | DarkDrgn2k: maybe try swapping PCI slots around too |
| [19:52:57] | DarkDrgn2k: | juski: i did |
| [19:53:08] | juski: | DarkDrgn2k: ASUS & ABIT do not make chipsets |
| [19:53:15] | DarkDrgn2k: | juski: must be the hjangover talking but i remmebered it drove me czry in windows i had the SAME problem in winblows.. |
| [19:53:27] | kgbudz: | winblows? |
| [19:53:31] | juski: | could be PCI latency or any number or things |
| [19:53:32] | kgbudz: | i think you mean win-awesome |
| [19:53:33] | juski: | or the PSU |
| [19:53:46] | jesterea: | I got 2 dvb-t usb devices... i think i know why it might have happened: one of those devices has not been detected a few times, so maybe mythtv is missing an input? |
| [19:54:08] | juski: | jesterea: udev enumerating them in a different order sometimes |
| [19:54:13] | defend: | all mine are detected :/ |
| [19:54:23] | juski: | USB is teh suck |
| [19:54:44] | jesterea: | HandleRemoteEncoder(cmd GET_STATE) Unknown encoder: 1 (i got 1 instead of 3 in the error) |
| [19:54:57] | DarkDrgn2k: | kgbudz: the card would not get a DVB signal lock in windows OR linux... |
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| [19:55:03] | DarkDrgn2k: | kgbudz: so its signal dependeant |
| [19:55:12] | juski: | DarkDrgn2k: do you have a digital voltmeter? |
| [19:55:19] | DarkDrgn2k: | juski: yes.. right here in front of me |
| [19:55:31] | kgbudz: | ya, its probably the signal |
| [19:55:35] | defend: | hmm wounder if it is cause mine are numbered 0,1,2 |
| [19:55:38] | kslater: | Happy New Year all (at least those of the Gregorian Calendar pursuasion) |
| [19:55:38] | juski: | measure the 12V rail on the bothersome box, when it's powering up the card |
| [19:55:39] | DarkDrgn2k: | kgbudz: no its NOT the signal |
| [19:55:44] | kgbudz: | o, hah |
| [19:55:47] | DarkDrgn2k: | kgbudz: the signal is perfect! |
| [19:56:01] | DarkDrgn2k: | kgbudz: i did evetythign. put new cables in.. it would flake out durnign a lock |
| [19:56:02] | juski: | it could also be electrical noise in the machine |
| [19:56:03] | kgbudz: | im not familiar with the setup, so i have no clue |
| [19:56:06] | DarkDrgn2k: | kgbudz: i swaped computersa nad it worked |
| [19:56:27] | DarkDrgn2k: | you mean out of the power supply |
| [19:56:31] | kgbudz: | this is like a tuner card? |
| [19:56:42] | jesterea: | the second usb device is only properly detected every second boot- else i get error messages without end and the system gets fucked up... i put a reboot script in init in case that happens... |
| [19:56:53] | DarkDrgn2k: | kgbudz: DVB-S actually. |
| [19:56:57] | DarkDrgn2k: | kgbudz: digital tuner |
| [19:57:01] | juski: | did you know that a PC is probably one of the most hostile environments you could possibly put a device sensitive to radio frequencies into? |
| [19:57:04] | defend: | i know my prob wee |
| [19:57:14] | juski: | there's RF noise all over the place in a PC |
| [19:57:16] | kgbudz: | juski, i was about to say the same |
| [19:57:23] | DarkDrgn2k: | juski: what all the EM actualy AFFECTS the device? |
| [19:57:23] | kslater: | anyone able to help me get something autostarted using xfce4 WM? |
| [19:57:28] | DarkDrgn2k: | emi |
| [19:57:36] | juski: | DarkDrgn2k: yeah |
| [19:57:48] | defend: | or maybe not :/ |
| [19:57:52] | juski: | if the grounding in the chassis of the case is bad... |
| [19:57:57] | juski: | all sorts can go wrong |
| [19:58:09] | juski: | or it might just be the PSU is too feeble |
| [19:58:15] | kgbudz: | yup |
| [19:58:21] | DarkDrgn2k: | bottom line is-its the board |
| [19:58:22] | kgbudz: | basically your system is unstable |
| [19:58:31] | juski: | DarkDrgn2k: you don't know that |
| [19:58:32] | kgbudz: | if you have a bad psu |
| [19:58:41] | juski: | swap the PSU out of the other box (the one where it works) |
| [19:58:53] | juski: | do some detective work man |
| [19:58:57] | DarkDrgn2k: | hmm PSU LOL dam TLAs |
| [19:58:59] | kgbudz: | yup |
| [19:59:10] | kgbudz: | like drivers are drivers, they either work or they dont |
| [19:59:16] | kgbudz: | if the drivers work, check it off the list |
| [19:59:20] | kgbudz: | and move onto hardware |
| [19:59:33] | DarkDrgn2k: | kgbudz: yeh well at least i KNOW where the problem lies now.. its 100% hardware.. |
| [19:59:35] | juski: | XFCE or whatever.. just put stuff in .xinitrc & have done with it. loads of guides out there in internet land, FYI |
| [19:59:36] | DarkDrgn2k: | kgbudz: and NOT the card! |
| [19:59:42] | jesterea: | kslater: google .xsession |
| [19:59:59] | kslater: | k |
| [20:00:17] | juski: | there are thousands of ways to get stuff to autostart |
| [20:00:32] | DarkDrgn2k: | xinit.rd |
| [20:00:36] | DarkDrgn2k: | uh d |
| [20:00:39] | kgbudz: | i could never get mythfrontend to autostart in kde |
| [20:00:39] | juski: | .xsession, .xinitrc, in the init files of window managers... rc.local ... |
| [20:00:42] | jesterea: | you can put stuff in your ~/.xsession file and this stuff gets started with the x window manager – if xfce4 uses it's own login manager, that might not be a good solution |
| [20:00:48] | kgbudz: | for some reason, it wouldnt autostart |
| [20:00:58] | kgbudz: | to the day i dont know why |
| [20:01:01] | juski: | who needs a login manager for a frontend-only machine anyway? |
| [20:01:03] | DarkDrgn2k: | set your WM to mythfrontend (BAD IDEA) |
| [20:01:10] | kgbudz: | haha |
| [20:01:13] | DarkDrgn2k: | juski: i autologged on mine... |
| [20:01:19] | jesterea: | lol |
| [20:01:25] | DarkDrgn2k: | use black box as wm |
| [20:01:46] | kgbudz: | i wouldnt mind seeing myth as a wm |
| [20:01:55] | kgbudz: | cut out the middleman |
| [20:02:04] | jesterea: | i gotta go – goodbye everybody |
| [20:02:07] | DarkDrgn2k: | kgbudz: yeh it works.. until xime or a 3rd party kicks in |
| [20:02:08] | juski: | in my rc.local file I've got su – mythtv -c "bash -l startx — -dpi 100" & |
| [20:02:12] | DarkDrgn2k: | kgbudz: then you loose all keybvaord focuse |
| [20:02:16] | GreyFoxx: | bad idea if you ever spawn any external apps |
| [20:02:21] | kgbudz: | exactly, myth would have to control everything |
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| [20:02:43] | DarkDrgn2k: | kgbudz: but myth usses xime and stuff doesnt it? |
| [20:02:50] | GreyFoxx: | DarkDrgn2k: Only if you configure it to |
| [20:02:54] | kgbudz: | from what i heard, its all internal |
| [20:02:57] | juski: | then in .xinitrc there's ratpoison& |
| [20:02:57] | juski: | /usr/bin/mythfrontend |
| [20:03:04] | juski: | and ta-da :) |
| [20:03:05] | GreyFoxx: | myth has it's own internal DVD player and video player |
| [20:03:09] | DarkDrgn2k: | GreyFoxx: i been out of the loop for a few vers.. |
| [20:03:13] | GreyFoxx: | It's up to the user which gets used |
| [20:03:16] | briand: | kgbudz: you put a script containing (at least) `mythfrontend &` in /home/mythtv/.kde/Autostart/ |
| [20:03:28] | kgbudz: | yup |
| [20:03:41] | kgbudz: | it would never work |
| [20:03:49] | kgbudz: | it used to work in like fc3 |
| [20:03:59] | kslater: | mythfrontend autostarts in my wm, but other stuff that I put in the same place doesn't |
| [20:04:03] | kslater: | don't know why |
| [20:04:11] | kgbudz: | you use kde? |
| [20:04:23] | kgbudz: | like i put the same script on another machine, and it worked |
| [20:05:11] | ** juski brings some new year joy to a forum user ** | |
| [20:05:13] | Inssomniak: | LiveTV forcing JumpTo 1, no one have this problem? it floods the console after watching tv for a while |
| [20:05:26] | Inssomniak: | kills live TV until I go back to menu and back in |
| [20:05:44] | kgbudz: | is it trying to goto channel 1? |
| [20:05:54] | juski: | and channel 1 exists? |
| [20:05:56] | kslater: | kgbudz – don't use kde – I use xfce4 – part of MythDora |
| [20:06:19] | juski: | kslater: and mythdora isn't already set up to start everything automagically? shame on mythdora |
| [20:06:23] | Inssomniak: | kgbudz, I dont have a channel 1, I dont think its trying to change channels |
| [20:06:35] | defend: | hmm i have a pvr-500 myth is crashing when i goto tuner status and i think it is because both tuner listings are pointing to tunner 1 is that normal for a 500? |
| [20:06:36] | kgbudz: | in mythtvsetup, each card has a default channel |
| [20:06:48] | juski: | Inssomniak: it's trying to go to channel 1, I expect because you've not set up the right channel for it to start on |
| [20:07:21] | juski: | you know that part of mythtv-setup that won't let you quit before exiting, asking if you know what you're doing? that's one of the reasons |
| [20:07:39] | Inssomniak: | juski, I dont have a channel 1, never have, all the channels are set to start on correct ones, and it happens not during changing channels, just simply letting it run on livetv, time varies from 10 minutes to hours |
| [20:07:45] | kslater: | juski – mythdora does start pretty much everything – I just want to add in irexec as a daemon process too |
| [20:07:57] | juski: | tuner X is set to start on channel Y, which doesn't exist! are you stupid, or do you know what you're doing? |
| [20:08:07] | juski: | ... that's how it goes on |
| [20:08:11] | kgbudz: | Inssomniak, what tuner card you got? |
| [20:08:13] | kgbudz: | ivtv? |
| [20:08:22] | kgbudz: | whats your setup |
| [20:08:24] | juski: | kslater: why irexec? |
| [20:08:27] | Inssomniak: | no, dvb-s times 3, atsc times 1 |
| [20:08:42] | kgbudz: | might be a driver issue |
| [20:08:43] | juski: | kslater: better to put irexec in an init script or rc.foobar |
| [20:08:43] | Inssomniak: | backend is seperate from frontend, and the frontend throws that error |
| [20:08:49] | kslater: | to allow power button restarts of the frontend |
| [20:08:51] | kgbudz: | right |
| [20:08:59] | kgbudz: | only on live tv? |
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| [20:09:00] | kgbudz: | not on playback? |
| [20:09:33] | juski: | wired or wireless ethernet? |
| [20:09:48] | Inssomniak: | and all my tuner X's are set to start on channel Y, where Y exists in all cases |
| [20:09:53] | Inssomniak: | wired ethernet 100mbps |
| [20:10:00] | kgbudz: | i think the issue is something else |
| [20:10:11] | kgbudz: | keep a copy of backend logs open as well |
| [20:10:20] | kgbudz: | see what the backend says when this happens |
| [20:10:25] | kslater: | juski here's my /etc/rc.local – http://pastebin.ca/299595 |
| [20:10:41] | kslater: | figured that should work, but no irexec on startup |
| [20:10:46] | Inssomniak: | in all cases the backend looks normal |
| [20:11:02] | kgbudz: | this issue doesnt effect playback? |
| [20:11:03] | kgbudz: | only live tv? |
| [20:11:23] | juski: | kslater: maybe you should use an init script instead |
| [20:11:27] | Inssomniak: | playback is fine that I know of, havent been able to record much, so as of now, its only live TV |
| [20:11:55] | kgbudz: | how do you know there is no error on the backend |
| [20:12:12] | Inssomniak: | I look at the screen |
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| [20:12:23] | Inssomniak: | and see no errors that are unusual |
| [20:12:23] | juski: | kslater: irexec would also have to be started AFTER lirc is loaded & running |
| [20:12:39] | kslater: | juski – aha! |
| [20:12:42] | juski: | livetv IS recording stuff, folks |
| [20:13:04] | kgbudz: | Inssomniak, it really could be anything |
| [20:13:06] | kslater: | sounds like I need add it to the mythfrontend.sh that mythdora provides |
| [20:13:18] | kgbudz: | you need to find more specifics |
| [20:13:28] | Inssomniak: | kgbudz, thats the scarey part |
| [20:14:10] | threedaymonk: | I'm using xine for MythDVD; is there a xine incantation to get it to play straight from the main title of the DVD, skipping the copyright warnings and menu? |
| [20:14:32] | kgbudz: | play the vob files |
| [20:14:36] | kgbudz: | directly |
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| [20:14:57] | kgbudz: | but i dunno how you can tell which vobs are the ones you want |
| [20:15:01] | kgbudz: | without going thru them |
| [20:15:05] | threedaymonk: | kgbudz: ah, I was about to ask that ;-) |
| [20:15:21] | threedaymonk: | It would probably be easy enough to do programmatically, actually |
| [20:15:26] | threedaymonk: | just pick the biggest set |
| [20:15:34] | kgbudz: | right |
| [20:15:45] | threedaymonk: | I might try writing a small wrapper to do that |
| [20:15:55] | kgbudz: | yup, shouldnt be too hard |
| [20:16:02] | kgbudz: | if its over 500mb, its probably what you want |
| [20:16:13] | threedaymonk: | although I was rather hoping that it would be possible within xine, so that I could go back and look at the extra features afterwards if I wanted |
| [20:16:16] | kgbudz: | and everything there after |
| [20:16:28] | kgbudz: | could be |
| [20:17:06] | Inssomniak: | this appears about 10 times in the log, just before the Jumpto error starts flooding the screen: Prebuffer wait timed out 10 times |
| [20:17:44] | kgbudz: | Inssomniak, im guessing that maybe your frontend is running out of video |
| [20:18:40] | Inssomniak: | I read somewhere you can increase the ringbuffer size |
| [20:18:46] | kgbudz: | yup |
| [20:18:50] | kgbudz: | but thats on the backend |
| [20:18:52] | kgbudz: | i believe |
| [20:19:10] | kgbudz: | like ive been running a remote frontend for years now |
| [20:19:16] | kgbudz: | and ive never ran into an issue like this |
| [20:19:24] | kgbudz: | nor have i ever tweaked my buffers |
| [20:19:45] | Inssomniak: | Ive just started with myth Ive never been able to use it for more than a day |
| [20:19:52] | kgbudz: | i remember by old router |
| [20:20:05] | kgbudz: | used to kill a connection |
| [20:20:11] | kgbudz: | if you used too much udp |
| [20:20:21] | kgbudz: | for more than a few minutes |
| [20:20:38] | kgbudz: | all udp would die |
| [20:21:16] | kgbudz: | like i said before, it could be a lot of things |
| [20:22:43] | Jack3: | is the serial port com1 or com 2? |
| [20:22:52] | Inssomniak: | yea it sucks I know, its just hard to fix without knowing the cause |
| [20:22:54] | Jack3: | or is it system varient? |
| [20:24:03] | DarkDrgn2k: | lol ok now myth tunnig time LoL |
| [20:24:14] | DarkDrgn2k: | any one know how to tuen myth to a dvb |
| [20:27:06] | DarkDrgn2k: | With a antry like "CNNAV:12486:v:S119.0W:20000:5154:5155:0:0:19031:4100:19:10000 |
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| [20:27:20] | DarkDrgn2k: | the frequency is 12486 or 12486000 |
| [20:28:25] | Max0: | anyone any good with samba? ive sorted my pc so can recored tv and want to use my xbox as a front end |
| [20:28:38] | DarkDrgn2k: | Max0: what do u weanna do? |
| [20:29:17] | Max0: | basicly if i browse to the samba server on a linux box a password box pops up |
| [20:29:30] | DarkDrgn2k: | from what computer |
| [20:29:37] | Max0: | any on the lan |
| [20:29:47] | DarkDrgn2k: | u want to be able to brows from a PC into a Linux Box right? |
| [20:29:54] | DarkDrgn2k: | what distro |
| [20:29:59] | Max0: | xbox to samba |
| [20:30:03] | Max0: | debain |
| [20:30:14] | DarkDrgn2k: | wowowo xbox to samba? WTF |
| [20:30:14] | Max0: | the issue is due to a password box |
| [20:30:19] | DarkDrgn2k: | from teh back...... |
| [20:30:20] | DarkDrgn2k: | top |
| [20:30:29] | DarkDrgn2k: | "linux Box" is a computer or an xbox |
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| [20:30:41] | Max0: | linux box = pc |
| [20:30:42] | DarkDrgn2k: | Anyone here know how to setup diseqcs in myth |
| [20:30:51] | Jack3: | anyone know how to configure lirc and knoppmyth |
| [20:30:56] | DarkDrgn2k: | OK |
| [20:31:05] | defaultro: | hi folks, can someone pls execute xvinfo|grep Adaptor |
| [20:31:14] | DarkDrgn2k: | Max0: you want to access the LINUX box from any computer on the network... where does xbox come in at all? |
| [20:31:39] | cesman: | Jack3: did you not see how to setup lirc when you rebooted and went thru the configuration? |
| [20:31:50] | Max0: | i CAN already browse the samba share from any linux box. but it askes for a password |
| [20:32:03] | DarkDrgn2k: | well then you cant LOL |
| [20:32:09] | Max0: | when i try with the xbox i just get a error |
| [20:32:15] | DarkDrgn2k: | forget all the terminology for a second |
| [20:32:17] | DarkDrgn2k: | LOL |
| [20:32:31] | DarkDrgn2k: | you want to access a SHARE on PC_LINUX_BOX_1 from any comtpuer right |
| [20:32:35] | DarkDrgn2k: | i assume u installed SAMBA alrady |
| [20:32:44] | Inssomniak: | I must be missing the boat on this one too.. If im on a channel, and hit R, it starts a recording, but I cannot change the channel to anything else on any other tuner while its doing that |
| [20:32:45] | Max0: | yes |
| [20:33:02] | kgbudz: | generally when i want to share data between computers |
| [20:33:04] | Max0: | i can already access it |
| [20:33:05] | Jack3: | not really cesman |
| [20:33:05] | kgbudz: | i use nfs |
| [20:33:09] | Jack3: | can i go thru that again? |
| [20:33:13] | kgbudz: | dunno if xbox supports nfs |
| [20:33:15] | defend: | hmm any ideas on this one .. i can transcode fine from with in myth but if i use nuvexport it uses up all ram and sits on 0 of total frames |
| [20:33:16] | DarkDrgn2k: | NO YOU CANT |
| [20:33:18] | kgbudz: | windows, linux, unix does |
| [20:33:22] | DarkDrgn2k: | if you get a password you CANT ACCESS IT |
| [20:33:41] | GreyFoxx: | ummm yes, you can |
| [20:33:42] | Max0: | err yeah i can |
| [20:33:46] | DarkDrgn2k: | really |
| [20:33:48] | DarkDrgn2k: | you can brows files? |
| [20:33:51] | GreyFoxx: | It will ALWAYS ask for a password |
| [20:34:04] | GreyFoxx: | Windows just defaults ot sending guest/guest and you don';t see it |
| [20:34:13] | Max0: | ah really |
| [20:34:18] | kgbudz: | pre 2000/xp |
| [20:34:20] | DarkDrgn2k: | GreyFoxx: onyl in the latest release... and it can be disabled :-P |
| [20:34:20] | cesman: | Jack3: as root lirc-reconfig.sh |
| [20:34:42] | DarkDrgn2k: | forget it.. so much for tryign ot help ppl.. back to my own problems :-P |
| [20:34:42] | cesman: | if your remote isn't listed, then you have to manully configure lirc |
| [20:34:48] | Max0: | thats what i want to do is disable it |
| [20:34:52] | cesman: | the process is the same as any other linux distro |
| [20:34:54] | Max0: | eg no password |
| [20:34:54] | GreyFoxx: | Max0: in your mount command try a username and password |
| [20:34:57] | cesman: | lirc.org for more |
| [20:35:15] | Jack3: | oh ok |
| [20:35:19] | kgbudz: | or switch to nfs :) |
| [20:35:21] | DarkDrgn2k: | seee now if you WANTED to listen to me id say set up a PUBLIC share |
| [20:35:36] | Max0: | greyfox i dont have a command line on the xbox |
| [20:35:38] | DarkDrgn2k: | add your windows usernames and passwords to it.. and youd be on your way.. |
| [20:35:40] | DarkDrgn2k: | but what do i know |
| [20:35:46] | kgbudz: | Max0, where is this share located? |
| [20:35:49] | kgbudz: | on windows? |
| [20:35:56] | Max0: | no debain |
| [20:35:58] | GreyFoxx: | Max0: Ok,so you are using xbmc then and not linux I assume ? |
| [20:36:09] | Max0: | yeah correct GreyFoxx |
| [20:36:21] | DarkDrgn2k: | any one here know where myth hods its diseqc setings |
| [20:36:24] | Jack3: | cesman, since im not using a remote |
| [20:36:26] | Jack3: | what do i chose? |
| [20:36:46] | cesman: | then why do you want to configure a remote if you ar enot using one? |
| [20:36:55] | kgbudz: | Max0, your trying to get files from debian to xbox? |
| [20:37:02] | Max0: | yeah |
| [20:37:04] | GreyFoxx: | Max0: with mount it's a simple |
| [20:37:08] | Jack3: | im trying to configure my transmitter |
| [20:37:09] | GreyFoxx: | -o username=nobody,password=nobody on the mount command |
| [20:37:19] | Jack3: | to change channels |
| [20:37:21] | Jack3: | on the cable box |
| [20:37:25] | GreyFoxx: | Max0: Assume you don;t have samba configured for per user authentication |
| [20:37:34] | Max0: | ok |
| [20:37:49] | Max0: | so how do i get a command line on the xbox |
| [20:37:51] | GreyFoxx: | look in your smb.conf for a line like "security = " |
| [20:37:52] | kgbudz: | do you run linux on your xbox? |
| [20:38:04] | Max0: | ah ok cheers |
| [20:38:19] | GreyFoxx: | Max0: Make sure it's set to share and not to user |
| [20:38:36] | GreyFoxx: | And like Dark said,m make sure the share itself is set to public |
| [20:39:09] | Jack3: | does knoppmyth config that cesman? |
| [20:39:12] | kgbudz: | so xbox supports broswer window compatible networks? |
| [20:39:22] | kgbudz: | windows* |
| [20:40:22] | Max0: | yeah |
| [20:40:30] | Max0: | well when its chipped |
| [20:40:40] | Max0: | thanks ill go try that... |
| [20:40:43] | Max0: | thanks |
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| [20:42:19] | cesman: | Jack3: what kind of xmitter? |
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| [20:46:02] | Jack3: | cesman, http://iguanaworks.net/ir/ |
| [20:46:08] | Jack3: | serial port transmitte without the receiver |
| [20:47:34] | cesman: | irblaster.sh |
| [20:47:57] | cesman: | howver I've no idea if that will work for you |
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| [20:52:43] | Jack3: | ok i configured it |
| [20:52:48] | Jack3: | should it be set in mythtv now? |
| [20:53:43] | ** cesman doesn't have an irblaster ** | |
| [20:54:04] | cesman: | slarty contributed the code |
| [20:54:27] | cesman: | Jack3: I highly suggest you send time reading the wiki and forum |
| [20:55:02] | Jack3: | i cant , im leaving my sisters house to go back to where i live (other city) |
| [20:55:15] | Jack3: | maybe next time |
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| [20:55:28] | Jack3: | wait so if I delete all channels except for channel 3 |
| [20:55:49] | Jack3: | then when i tell mythtv to change channels, will it do the irblater channel change? |
| [20:56:42] | juski: | yeah yeah just delete channels willy-nilly. that'll fix everything for sure |
| [20:57:08] | xris: | Jack3: if you have a blaster command, mythtv shouldn't even try to change channels in the tuner itself. |
| [20:57:22] | Jack3: | oh i need a script for mythtv also huh? |
| [20:58:02] | xris: | now I'm just lost. you're not trying to change channels via mythtv? |
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| [21:01:37] | Jack3: | yeh ii am, but i only use channel 3 |
| [21:01:44] | Jack3: | and use the cable box remote to change channels |
| [21:03:17] | xris: | can you use something other than RF to receive channels, like composite or svideo? |
| [21:04:32] | defaultro: | my friend gave me a Radeon 9100 64mb video card. It's got 2 ports. Can this handle HD playback? |
| [21:05:03] | cesman: | doesn't matter if your cpu cannot handle it |
| [21:06:32] | defaultro: | is that for me cesman? |
| [21:06:39] | juski: | defaultro: yeah it was |
| [21:06:42] | defaultro: | oh |
| [21:07:03] | defaultro: | so that means, we can use our old vga cards especially my cpu now is able to handle even 264 |
| [21:07:06] | juski: | Jack3: you should ideally be using svideo & stereo audio – not RF – to capture your cable box |
| [21:07:18] | juski: | defaultro: up to a point, yes |
| [21:07:28] | defaultro: | i was wrong all the while then |
| [21:07:44] | defaultro: | i had an impression that I need a strong video card just to play HD recordings and h264 |
| [21:07:46] | juski: | Jack3: if you can't use svideo, then composite. it'll still be better than RF & you get stereo audio |
| [21:08:07] | juski: | defaultro: nothing will give you h.264 acceleration in linux right now, or for the forseeable future |
| [21:08:23] | defaultro: | juski, my cpu can handle them well so it's fine |
| [21:08:29] | jduggan_: | juski: do all ntl stb's have an svideo out? |
| [21:08:31] | juski: | we're still waiting for Nvidia PureVideo support in linux |
| [21:08:38] | juski: | jduggan_: you get RGB or composite |
| [21:08:40] | defaultro: | that won't happen i guess |
| [21:08:47] | xris: | defaultro: nope, cpu is more important for decompressing that stuff. |
| [21:08:56] | juski: | defaultro: no, chances are it will at some point. just not soon |
| [21:08:56] | defaultro: | xris, yep, that's what i learned today |
| [21:08:58] | xris: | ati doesn't do so well in linux, though. what card do you currently have? |
| [21:09:09] | defaultro: | i thought it was the video card that does all the magic |
| [21:09:22] | cesman: | card can help |
| [21:09:47] | defaultro: | so looks like a good video card can help though for games |
| [21:09:50] | juski: | yeah I mean it helps if it's not your cpu doing all the colour-space conversion & scaling ;) |
| [21:09:53] | defaultro: | but not for video |
| [21:10:29] | cesman: | defaultro: what cpu are you running? |
| [21:10:37] | defaultro: | athlon 64+ |
| [21:10:47] | cesman: | speed? |
| [21:11:13] | juski: | xris: I've just seen the Sony website for the first time in ages so I'm gonna experiment with a more simple look for my work :) |
| [21:11:13] | defaultro: | here is the exact info, AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Newcastle 1600MHz HT Socket 754 Processor Model ADA3000AXBOX |
| [21:11:30] | defaultro: | with my current setup, I don't have any issue playing hd and 264 |
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| [21:11:55] | cesman: | current video card being? |
| [21:11:56] | defaultro: | i was just asking if the card my friend gave to me would be able to play it but found out from you :) that it's the cpu that does all the magic |
| [21:11:58] | xris: | juski: yay for flash. heh |
| [21:12:03] | defaultro: | nvidia 6600GT |
| [21:12:14] | xris: | defaultro: current card is way better |
| [21:12:21] | cesman: | right |
| [21:12:36] | scopeuk: | flash *shuder* |
| [21:12:38] | juski: | xris: nah I think it'd be possible to do it with css, the overall look/style |
| [21:12:50] | xris: | juski: yes. I was just commenting on the flash itself. heh |
| [21:13:03] | juski: | I definitely think the top buttons would be better just being text |
| [21:13:04] | defend: | anyone ever heard of this once i lanch the front end and load a move / recording it stops reconizing keyboard input so i cant change volume skip ahead exit ect |
| [21:13:07] | defaultro: | i know my 6600 GT is better than the 9100 but would like to know if it will be able to play HD |
| [21:13:14] | juski: | you can have too many buttons I think |
| [21:13:22] | ** xris wishes he could just require javascript for mythweb. ** | |
| [21:13:26] | xris: | would make things so much simpler. |
| [21:13:26] | defaultro: | we're planning to help another friend build an htpv |
| [21:13:28] | defaultro: | htpc |
| [21:13:35] | juski: | defaultro: the cpu you've got should be fine for mpeg2 HDTV |
| [21:13:38] | defaultro: | i'm giving this card to that friend |
| [21:13:42] | xris: | defaultro: it would probably work, as long as your cpu is fast enough |
| [21:13:47] | defaultro: | ok |
| [21:13:54] | defaultro: | i'll just tell him to buy a decent cpu |
| [21:13:59] | defaultro: | then i'll give that card to him |
| [21:14:14] | juski: | you can hardly buy a cpu slow enough not to be able to play back hd mpeg2 these days |
| [21:14:40] | defaultro: | so now, correct me if I'm wrong, the reason why we want newer cards is to make sure it would support a 1920x1080 resolution at least |
| [21:14:49] | juski: | I mean it's not like you're expecting miracles from some P2 500 box you had lying in a shed somewhere |
| [21:15:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [21:15:04] | juski: | an fx5200 will do 1920x1080 AFAIK |
| [21:15:11] | scopeuk: | juski nope thats my job |
| [21:15:11] | defaultro: | gotcha |
| [21:15:40] | juski: | I think the docs need some user case studies to help illuminate these guys |
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| [21:15:56] | defaultro: | so correct me if I'm wrong(just an example), replacing my 6600GT on my current system with fx5200 will not yield big difference on hd playback |
| [21:16:09] | scopeuk: | i reacon i could jsut about get away with my 433 celeron and a card wit h hardware encoder |
| [21:16:56] | xris: | defaultro: correct |
| [21:16:57] | scopeuk: | it almost coped wit ha s/w encoder/framegrabber |
| [21:17:06] | juski: | hmm... a 'mythtv magazine' kind of thing, current state-of-play, speak to folks about stuff in the works, highlight folks using mythtv at home/work/for unusual things... |
| [21:17:08] | defaultro: | ah, i spent so much money then before :P |
| [21:17:12] | juski: | sorry I've got my PR head on :) |
| [21:17:25] | defaultro: | but i know that 6600 would be really nice for games but for video, it's overkill |
| [21:17:31] | scopeuk: | mythtv for work? |
| [21:17:52] | defaultro: | because vector rendering is different from video |
| [21:18:00] | juski: | scopeuk: yeah – it's not just a home PVR ya know ;) |
| [21:18:04] | defaultro: | i think, that's where gpu comes into play |
| [21:18:28] | ** juski ponders gputrans ** | |
| [21:18:49] | xris: | juski: mythtv still needs a few more goodies, and a little better support from the distro communities, and it should be ready for stuff like that. |
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| [21:18:56] | defaultro: | man, fx5200 just for $33, WOW |
| [21:19:07] | defaultro: | xris, i hope this can be added in mythtv |
| [21:19:15] | cesman: | xris: what more can I do w/ KnoppMyth? |
| [21:19:17] | xris: | defaultro: yup. cheap card, really nice. |
| [21:19:18] | defaultro: | this one, http://www.4290greenfieldlanehome.com/blendprocess.png |
| [21:19:19] | juski: | xris: what goodies are missing? |
| [21:19:22] | scopeuk: | juski im tryign to think ofa situation where a buisness would use a pvr |
| [21:19:26] | scopeuk: | canthink of maby 1 or 2 |
| [21:19:36] | juski: | scopeuk: same thing they'd use any vcr for |
| [21:19:37] | xris: | cesman: probably not much. I've only heard good things. |
| [21:19:49] | defaultro: | guys, check out the png file I posted |
| [21:19:50] | cesman: | xris: thanks |
| [21:19:58] | juski: | the national film & tv archive of wales are considering mythtv actually |
| [21:20:00] | xris: | cesman: you're probably the most supportive distro community in that sense. heh. |
| [21:20:01] | defaultro: | i was thinking of outputting to 2 CRT projectors |
| [21:20:25] | xris: | scopeuk: we used to have mythtv in the luchroom at work until we moved and couldn't get cable anymore. |
| [21:20:37] | scopeuk: | defaultro that looks very much liek how the flight sim display at uni works |
| [21:20:39] | defaultro: | i'm doing it now with vlc but playback is affected a bit |
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| [21:20:49] | defaultro: | uni? |
| [21:20:52] | juski: | the only goodies I can think of are making myth easier to configure. when I was getting mythtv to play a .iso file yesterday my wife moaned that she'd not have been able to do that |
| [21:21:02] | scopeuk: | uni == university |
| [21:21:05] | juski: | (the Internal player couldn't keep up with it) |
| [21:21:06] | defaultro: | oh :P |
| [21:21:25] | scopeuk: | done with 3 prjectors and 3 pcs thgouh |
| [21:21:28] | defaultro: | so do guys think that mythtv will support this kind of separation |
| [21:21:32] | cesman: | xris: I try :) |
| [21:21:34] | scopeuk: | then another 5 pcs for the rest of the sim but thats by the by |
| [21:21:34] | xris: | juski: yeah. and better driver support.. lirc and ivtv are not so hot in fedora. |
| [21:21:44] | defaultro: | scope, 3 pcs? |
| [21:21:53] | defaultro: | how are they fed though? |
| [21:22:10] | scopeuk: | its all linked usign a cutomised version of udp o na closed 10/100 network |
| [21:22:20] | scopeuk: | all the systems are running software that was written in house |
| [21:22:26] | defaultro: | oh |
| [21:22:39] | scopeuk: | i dont know all the details |
| [21:22:41] | defaultro: | i was hoping that we can do that too in myth |
| [21:22:52] | scopeuk: | that would be cool althoguh id imagne limited use |
| [21:23:06] | Dr_willis: | :) depends on how dirty you want to get your hands also. Heh heh. |
| [21:23:17] | defaultro: | good for people willing to use CRT projector |
| [21:23:26] | scopeuk: | id lvoe to but there not exactly cheep |
| [21:23:37] | defaultro: | you can get a crt for 800 |
| [21:23:50] | juski: | $800 == £8800 |
| [21:23:51] | scopeuk: | by my definition that isent cheep |
| [21:23:57] | defaultro: | oh :) |
| [21:24:00] | juski: | £800 I mean |
| [21:24:15] | juski: | you pay a dollar for something, in the UK we pay one GBP |
| [21:24:24] | onetwo: | defaultro: see http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/apps/videowhale.html is this what you need? |
| [21:24:26] | defaultro: | but i hope we can do it via software |
| [21:24:30] | scopeuk: | bout right as far as techs concerened |
| [21:24:30] | juski: | despite the exchange rate & everything else |
| [21:24:31] | defaultro: | let me look |
| [21:24:34] | cesman: | so about $1,600 |
| [21:24:54] | scopeuk: | the price gap has reduced of late but tis stil lthere |
| [21:25:03] | defaultro: | onetwo, almost, :) |
| [21:25:07] | defaultro: | but I only need to outputs |
| [21:25:12] | scopeuk: | to the point when buying somehting in the us shipping it to the uk and paying import tax is cheaper |
| [21:25:19] | defaultro: | i'm currently using 2 monitors for simulation |
| [21:25:42] | juski: | can we not just get the bottom dollar stuff in mythtv working better _first_ please? ;) |
| [21:25:52] | defaultro: | and what happens is like this using VLC – http://www.videolan.org/events/ |
| [21:26:26] | juski: | gimme more features when my 1ghz frontend can play back SDTV mpeg2 properly again ;) |
| [21:26:46] | defaultro: | juski, if I have extra video card, I'll send one to you |
| [21:26:48] | Max0: | juski sorted my sound/video out :D |
| [21:27:04] | juski: | defaultro: my epia board only has one PCI slot |
| [21:27:13] | scopeuk: | defaultro cool if a little random |
| [21:27:22] | defaultro: | ? |
| [21:27:23] | juski: | and it has better mpeg2 decoding than nvidia xvmc will offer me |
| [21:27:33] | defaultro: | oh really :) that's cool |
| [21:27:34] | scopeuk: | defaultro the vlc thing |
| [21:27:46] | defaultro: | gotcha |
| [21:27:49] | juski: | defaultro: if I can squish the prebuffering pauses, yeah |
| [21:27:54] | defaultro: | however, I have vlc issues right now |
| [21:28:15] | juski: | but now the gaps in playback are like 1 frame or so every few secs, not like before |
| [21:28:18] | defaultro: | i experience prebuffering pauses back in feb 2005, I don't know how I got rid of it |
| [21:28:30] | juski: | I've tried all the ways going |
| [21:28:38] | juski: | it's not NFS vs myth protocol |
| [21:28:38] | defaultro: | i think, i tweaked a lot of kernel settings |
| [21:28:42] | juski: | it's not audio buffers |
| [21:28:50] | juski: | it's not refresh rate |
| [21:29:00] | juski: | yeah well I'm using stock dapper |
| [21:29:05] | defaultro: | i'm trying to recall what i did |
| [21:29:21] | juski: | I'd be using knoppmyth if it didn't take so long to boot up |
| [21:29:22] | defaultro: | stack4k something? |
| [21:29:40] | defaultro: | i had to disable in kernel during compile |
| [21:30:05] | juski: | I built a kernel for ubuntu once before & it wasn't fun |
| [21:30:13] | juski: | it's easy on gentoo & others, not ubuntu |
| [21:30:16] | Dr_willis: | so long to boot up? hmm never noticed.. |
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| [21:30:30] | juski: | anything over 30s is 'long' in my books |
| [21:30:32] | Dr_willis: | then again when you get 3+ weeks up time.. whats boot time matter much. |
| [21:30:32] | BULLE: | juski: have the ubuntu people screwed kernel compilation badly in some respect ? |
| [21:30:50] | BULLE: | juski: i thought they had nice kernel build tools and so on, like most other distros, so it was a fairly simple task |
| [21:30:52] | juski: | I shaved mine down to about 50secs by hacking the init process crap |
| [21:31:07] | Dr_willis: | juski, spend 3 days to save 40 sec... :) |
| [21:31:11] | juski: | BULLE: they do a lot of work for you but it's way too convoluted |
| [21:31:27] | defaultro: | which you think guys is better, xinerama or twinview |
| [21:31:39] | juski: | heck I had slack on my s100 box & it came up to the main menu in myth in about 15 secs |
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| [21:31:49] | juski: | so I know it can be done |
| [21:32:39] | Dr_willis: | twinview sort of superseds xinerama, and replaces it. |
| [21:32:51] | Dr_willis: | at least thats how i 'read their docs' describing how it works. |
| [21:33:37] | BULLE: | Dr_willis: isnt twinview nvidias own thing, whereas xinerama is a generic x way ? |
| [21:34:04] | Dr_willis: | BULLE, basicially yes. its Nvidias answer to xinerama |
| [21:34:06] | kgbudz: | yup |
| [21:34:12] | juski: | how can folks sit, not in a lounge/comfy chair & watch telly anyway? |
| [21:34:25] | Dr_willis: | you an use xineriama and not twinview... but theres often annoying issues doing it that way |
| [21:34:46] | kgbudz: | xinerama is good for stretching |
| [21:34:56] | kgbudz: | but if you want to do 2 different desktops |
| [21:35:05] | kgbudz: | twinview is better performance wise |
| [21:35:07] | kgbudz: | if using nvidia |
| [21:35:19] | Dr_willis: | I still notice annoying issues with some programs with using twinview as well. |
| [21:35:30] | Dr_willis: | but i tend to just clone the desktops over to the tv mainly. :) |
| [21:35:37] | kgbudz: | right |
| [21:35:45] | kgbudz: | i did dual desktop, tv and monitor |
| [21:35:51] | kgbudz: | and xinerama was losing frames |
| [21:35:53] | Dr_willis: | wide desktops are nice and handy... but all it takes is the one program you really want to use to be an idiot about it... |
| [21:35:58] | kgbudz: | twinview was good |
| [21:36:35] | Dr_willis: | IN my case it wa vmware being stupid. :) if fullscreened and covered both displays – putting the virtual display right in the middle on the border of the 2 monitors. |
| [21:36:37] | kgbudz: | it just sucks you cant run 2 frontends on the same machine :( |
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| [21:37:38] | orrion: | kgbudz: im using twin view, all is good except i'm starting to get a pin cushion effect...any ideas |
| [21:37:48] | kgbudz: | pin cushion? |
| [21:37:56] | jduggan_: | i hate that theres no easy way to have two different desktop bg's with dual monitors |
| [21:38:08] | juski: | oo I've just thought of another way to slice the site header up & save some complexity :) |
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| [21:38:19] | orrion: | um asymetrical i guess, and not centered perfectly |
| [21:38:39] | kgbudz: | doesnt sound like software issue |
| [21:38:41] | juski: | xris: are you all that fussed about having rounded corners on the background? |
| [21:38:42] | orrion: | the upper corners curve a little |
| [21:38:51] | kgbudz: | more of a analog signal issue |
| [21:39:07] | kgbudz: | might be software... |
| [21:39:08] | orrion: | ok i thought it might be my graphics card |
| [21:39:19] | kgbudz: | maybe |
| [21:39:21] | juski: | sounds more like a monitor issue, tbh, orrion |
| [21:39:30] | orrion: | thank you |
| [21:39:46] | juski: | the HT PSU in it is aging |
| [21:40:00] | Max0: | can anyone help on a samba question? |
| [21:40:06] | orrion: | juski its the tv i don't know how to fix it |
| [21:40:38] | kgbudz: | Max0, it didnt get fixed an hour ago? |
| [21:40:44] | orrion: | juski i does it with a desktop view as well as mythtv |
| [21:40:51] | orrion: | it |
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| [21:41:03] | Max0: | na been plullin my hair out |
| [21:41:10] | Max0: | its down to the client im sure |
| [21:41:27] | juski: | orrion: sounds like the TV is old & starting to show signs of it |
| [21:41:29] | Max0: | as windows boxes dont get asked for a username/passwd |
| [21:41:33] | Max0: | but linux ones do |
| [21:41:50] | kgbudz: | did you reboot after changing settings? |
| [21:41:51] | orrion: | juski: perhaps, thanks |
| [21:41:53] | Max0: | btw nobody was disabled and windows boxes still connected fine |
| [21:42:01] | juski: | Max0: saw someone tell you why earlier |
| [21:42:08] | Max0: | i restarted the samba service |
| [21:42:16] | Max0: | ive tried nobody and nobody |
| [21:42:27] | kgbudz: | well, if you make the share public, it will work |
| [21:42:33] | kgbudz: | so maybe the setting didnt take |
| [21:42:38] | xris: | juski: the global corners, yeah, it looks crappy if you're running full witdh |
| [21:42:39] | kgbudz: | verify the setting and reboot |
| [21:42:41] | ** DarkDrgn2k wonders who said that... ** | |
| [21:43:07] | orrion: | anybody ever seen this in their syslog ivtv: 1000 ms time out waiting for firmware |
| [21:43:18] | kgbudz: | yes |
| [21:43:22] | Max0: | the setting on the share is read/write to all know users |
| [21:43:23] | Blaksmith: | wheeee I now know why my cpu is overheating.... too much junk on the fan blades / fins of the heatsinc |
| [21:43:30] | Blaksmith: | time to shutdown and clean heh |
| [21:43:31] | orrion: | kgbudz: any ideas |
| [21:43:40] | DarkDrgn2k: | Max0: did u do smbpasswd yet? |
| [21:43:43] | kgbudz: | Max0, you need to disable authentication entirely |
| [21:43:45] | juski: | xris: cool – that'll make the thing SO much easier to lay out |
| [21:43:46] | Dr_willis: | cat hair :) |
| [21:43:55] | Blaksmith: | yep cat hair lol |
| [21:43:57] | orrion: | kgbudz: it happens just after i lose the tuner |
| [21:43:58] | DarkDrgn2k: | just add all the users you want into smbpasswd and boom your done |
| [21:44:03] | Dr_willis: | I got Pomerianiana... |
| [21:44:08] | Dr_willis: | Pomerianians |
| [21:44:13] | kgbudz: | this happens in the middle of usage? |
| [21:44:16] | kgbudz: | or initialization? |
| [21:44:42] | xris: | juski: good. :) |
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| [21:44:57] | orrion: | kgbudz: if i leave tv and go back to the menu and try to go back to tv sometimes i lose the tuner for some reason |
| [21:44:58] | kgbudz: | like i know ivtv loads firmware when it inits |
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| [21:45:10] | kgbudz: | i dunno then |
| [21:45:15] | juski: | xris: even *I* might be able to handle the css for that :) |
| [21:45:19] | orrion: | lol me either |
| [21:45:24] | Max0: | could it be im using webmin to config it? |
| [21:45:25] | xris: | :) |
| [21:46:20] | kgbudz: | just verify the settings |
| [21:46:21] | kgbudz: | and reboot |
| [21:46:23] | kgbudz: | and see if that works |
| [21:47:32] | orrion: | ok |
| [21:48:13] | Max0: | user nobody/pass no body is in samba users and enabled |
| [21:48:25] | kgbudz: | i was talking to Max0... |
| [21:48:42] | Max0: | the shaire secuirty is set to read/write to all know users |
| [21:48:55] | Max0: | share* |
| [21:49:08] | kgbudz: | ok, restart samba/server |
| [21:49:18] | kgbudz: | check the logs to verify the setting made it in |
| [21:49:25] | kgbudz: | and test |
| [21:50:19] | Max0: | ok ill reboot it this time, not restart the services thanks |
| [21:50:29] | Max0: | if this works ill be sooo happy |
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| [21:55:25] | cesman: | service? |
| [21:55:28] | cesman: | reboot? |
| [21:55:37] | cesman: | rebooting if for adding new hardware |
| [21:55:49] | cesman: | we use daemons, not services ;) |
| [21:56:02] | kgbudz: | its a rule of thumb |
| [21:56:12] | kgbudz: | if stuff isnt working |
| [21:56:15] | kgbudz: | reboot |
| [21:56:18] | kgbudz: | before doing anything else |
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| [21:59:22] | juski: | xris: I've just done the header, with overlay logo, in 2 graphics & css |
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| [22:00:14] | Max0: | rebooted the server, and the xbox same thing |
| [22:01:08] | ** juski hands Max0 a machine gun ** | |
| [22:01:10] | Max0: | no user/pass in widows, linux have to enter a user, xbox errors |
| [22:01:19] | juski: | windows HAS a user/pass |
| [22:01:28] | juski: | you just never see it |
| [22:01:39] | DarkDrgn2k: | Max0: just make the dam samba server include all the login and passwords that exist on the other putrs |
| [22:01:42] | xris: | juski: nice. link? |
| [22:01:48] | Max0: | i need a rope |
| [22:01:50] | juski: | xris: I'll upload it |
| [22:01:54] | Max0: | ;) |
| [22:02:05] | kgbudz: | its just not configured correctly |
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| [22:03:34] | kgbudz: | do you know what xbox is sending over as user/pass? |
| [22:04:21] | Max0: | i think it could be xbox/xbox but ill set up a sniffer to be sure |
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| [22:05:59] | juski: | xris: http://www.juski.co.uk/test/ |
| [22:06:13] | juski: | it's a start anyway |
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| [22:06:55] | xris: | yup |
| [22:07:06] | xris: | you'll probably have to use a css background trick to get the left column to look correct |
| [22:07:17] | xris: | (if you want it to go the full height of the page, anyway) |
| [22:07:33] | juski: | aye figures |
| [22:08:06] | xris: | http://positioniseverything.net will have info |
| [22:09:00] | lophyte: | has anyone successfully gotten rivatv to work on a 2.6 kernel? |
| [22:09:51] | juski: | already in my bookmarks, xris ;) |
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| [22:11:06] | xris: | cool |
| [22:11:30] | xris: | juski: you see what I've been doing to mythweb recently? |
| [22:11:55] | juski: | no, but since my slave backend is now decommissioned I can play with svn again |
| [22:11:59] | kgbudz: | you paginate the recorded tv? |
| [22:12:33] | BULLE: | xris: even though that link wasnt ment for me, thanks, it looks like a good read to help me with my css quests |
| [22:12:33] | juski: | xris: just refresh the page |
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| [22:12:49] | juski: | everybody should know the pain that is css |
| [22:12:54] | juski: | spread the joy! |
| [22:13:01] | xris: | kgbudz: no. no idea why people think that's such a big deal |
| [22:13:28] | xris: | bad juski, frames bad.. bad... ;) |
| [22:13:29] | kgbudz: | "There are 959 recordings in this display group" |
| [22:13:39] | xris: | kgbudz: sort by title |
| [22:13:47] | juski: | xris: eh? |
| [22:13:51] | xris: | juski: don't use frames |
| [22:13:53] | kgbudz: | and im only using around 75% of my fs space |
| [22:13:59] | kgbudz: | sort by title? |
| [22:14:05] | xris: | rather, group... |
| [22:14:14] | kgbudz: | group? |
| [22:14:14] | juski: | xris: I don't follow now |
| [22:14:29] | xris: | juski: source for the page says you're using frames |
| [22:14:34] | kgbudz: | my problems begin when i hit the recorded programs link |
| [22:14:36] | BULLE: | juski: you do the layout, in css, not via the frames stuff |
| [22:14:38] | kgbudz: | im pretty much toast |
| [22:14:49] | xris: | or maybe it's the wrapper for ntlworld.. |
| [22:14:54] | xris: | ahh |
| [22:14:54] | juski: | xris: that's my web redirector thingy |
| [22:14:57] | xris: | yeah |
| [22:15:13] | xris: | kgbudz: you don't have a "title" selector at the top of the list? |
| [22:15:21] | juski: | so I know, I'll go through th rigmarole of using css to look like frames, then use frames anyway :-P |
| [22:15:22] | kgbudz: | maybe |
| [22:15:25] | kgbudz: | i never made it that far |
| [22:15:37] | Paladine: | ok my bashfu is really poor today |
| [22:15:40] | kgbudz: | dont the settings reset? |
| [22:15:48] | xris: | kgbudz: reset when? |
| [22:15:53] | kgbudz: | i dunno |
| [22:15:55] | kgbudz: | when im at work |
| [22:15:59] | kgbudz: | and i hit recorded programs |
| [22:15:59] | juski: | I am _so_ not gonna do any work tomorrow :) |
| [22:16:00] | xris: | kgbudz: I do see the problem when you have that many recordings. |
| [22:16:06] | xris: | kgbudz: do you use auth and .20? |
| [22:16:17] | kgbudz: | i use .2 |
| [22:16:19] | kgbudz: | not sure about auth |
| [22:16:28] | kgbudz: | the prob is that the page is maybe 20mb |
| [22:16:34] | xris: | .2? |
| [22:16:44] | xris: | kgbudz: do you use http authentication in mythweb? |
| [22:16:47] | kgbudz: | nope |
| [22:17:01] | xris: | if you do, then it links your session info to your login id. |
| [22:17:12] | xris: | plus, then no one can go in and mess with your recordings, etc. |
| [22:17:49] | kgbudz: | well, the only reason i would even use the feautre |
| [22:17:56] | kgbudz: | is to see what has been recently recorded |
| [22:18:00] | kgbudz: | its not a big deal |
| [22:18:03] | cesman: | if anyone here will be in southern California next month, KnoppMyth will have a booth at SCALE 5x |
| [22:18:05] | cesman: | http://socallinuxexpo.org/scale5x/ |
| [22:18:13] | kgbudz: | ive learned to live with it |
| [22:18:16] | kgbudz: | over the past few years |
| [22:18:23] | xris: | cesman: stop by the silicon mechanics booth and say hi for me. |
| [22:18:31] | cesman: | oh1 |
| [22:18:33] | cesman: | ok! |
| [22:18:48] | ** cesman needs a new keyboard ** | |
| [22:18:53] | cesman: | or KVM |
| [22:19:20] | xris: | cesman: thank them for sponsoring mythtv.. might could do some good pr, depending on who is manning the booth at the time. |
| [22:19:21] | Dr_willis: | that syngery program is handy. |
| [22:19:27] | Dr_willis: | to do the work of a kvm. |
| [22:19:44] | juski: | mythtv neeeeeds good pr :) |
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| [22:20:15] | kgbudz: | syngery? |
| [22:20:22] | xris: | juski: yeah. we're trying to convince isaac to come out and give a talk at linuxfest in april. |
| [22:20:40] | TonyS: | 'lo all. anyone can help with getting the tv guide to work? |
| [22:21:14] | cesman: | where is linuxfest? |
| [22:21:26] | kgbudz: | hell |
| [22:21:46] | xris: | cesman: bellingham, just S of the US/CA border |
| [22:22:14] | cesman: | http://www.linuxfestnorthwest.org/ |
| [22:22:23] | cesman: | that linuxfest? |
| [22:22:28] | xris: | http://www.linuxfestnorthwest.org/ |
| [22:22:29] | xris: | yeah |
| [22:22:32] | cesman: | and not ohio |
| [22:22:42] | xris: | same weekend as the local beer festival, too. :) |
| [22:23:12] | kgbudz: | drunk linux |
| [22:23:13] | kgbudz: | sweet |
| [22:23:16] | cesman: | :) |
| [22:23:27] | xris: | kgbudz: they apparently coordinate intentionally |
| [22:23:36] | cesman: | lol |
| [22:23:37] | kgbudz: | no doubt |
| [22:23:41] | xris: | trying to get a mythtv booth organized |
| [22:23:50] | xris: | need to get hardware, though |
| [22:23:50] | TonyS: | using uk dvb-t, I set up mythtv to use dvb-t and EIT for program guides. it scanned and found all channels. but no guides appears... it's showing as unknown. what did I do wrong? |
| [22:24:06] | kgbudz: | mythfilldatabase? |
| [22:24:07] | juski: | when are linux gatherings ever not drunken ones? I've done two & I've yet to see anyone sober at 10pm |
| [22:24:11] | kgbudz: | did you run that |
| [22:24:28] | kgbudz: | is your datadirect account setup |
| [22:24:29] | Dr_willis: | 'free as in beer' has a whole new meaning then eh? |
| [22:24:30] | TonyS: | yeah I did and it said it as done without any problems |
| [22:24:33] | kgbudz: | with the correct zip |
| [22:24:50] | TonyS: | it asked for non usa code... I think I put in UK. |
| [22:24:52] | kgbudz: | did you go into mythtvsetup and verify this |
| [22:24:53] | TonyS: | not sure about that |
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| [22:25:06] | kgbudz: | do you live in the us? |
| [22:25:07] | ** juski doesn't remember anything about anybody buying him beer at a linuxfest ** | |
| [22:25:09] | TonyS: | nope... UK |
| [22:25:44] | kgbudz: | you go into mythtvsetup and verify your channel lineup is correct? |
| [22:26:08] | TonyS: | the channel names are correct but no guide data are showing. just 'Unknown' |
| [22:26:20] | TonyS: | do I need to enter my postcode or is 'UK' good enough? |
| [22:26:26] | caitlin: | dont most linux users get drunk on two halves of shandy? |
| [22:26:36] | kgbudz: | not sure |
| [22:26:38] | xris: | TonyS: did you attach the channel list to a particular card? |
| [22:26:39] | kgbudz: | are you using datadirect? |
| [22:26:42] | cesman: | xris: please stop by if I miss you at your booth |
| [22:26:45] | kgbudz: | that too |
| [22:26:45] | xris: | kgbudz: no, he's in the UK |
| [22:26:53] | xris: | cesman: I won't be at SCALE. |
| [22:26:56] | TonyS: | dont think we have datadirect in uk? |
| [22:27:01] | cesman: | doh! |
| [22:27:16] | xris: | cesman: only the sales guys go.. I'd be no good. heh. |
| [22:27:52] | cesman: | :) |
| [22:28:04] | cesman: | well I'll stop by and give my thanks |
| [22:28:24] | xris: | TonyS: you don't. might be able to use xmltv, though. |
| [22:28:35] | xris: | TonyS: just keep poking juski until he answers. :) |
| [22:29:10] | ** TonyS pokes kgbudz ** | |
| [22:29:11] | TonyS: | ;) |
| [22:29:33] | kgbudz: | i live in the us... |
| [22:29:36] | xris: | wrong person, but good enough. heh |
| [22:29:45] | kgbudz: | did you make sure your mythtvsetup is all correct? |
| [22:29:49] | xris: | juski is our resident UK setup expert. |
| [22:29:53] | juski: | be with you in a minute |
| [22:29:59] | TonyS: | k, thx |
| [22:30:12] | kgbudz: | <xris> TonyS: did you attach the channel list to a particular card? |
| [22:30:19] | kgbudz: | that one too |
| [22:30:47] | TonyS: | ah ha... i think i didn't do that... will try that |
| [22:30:57] | juski: | ding! the doctor is in |
| [22:31:17] | TonyS: | thanks. :) |
| [22:31:55] | juski: | TonyS: so, you set up the dvb-t card, set up a 'video source' & told it 'on air guide only (EIT)', then scanned for channels, yes |
| [22:31:59] | juski: | ? |
| [22:32:13] | TonyS: | yup |
| [22:32:31] | juski: | then did you assign the video source to the tuner? |
| [22:32:35] | TonyS: | and it found the channel names. but there was no guides, just 'unknown' |
| [22:32:55] | juski: | it can take a while for the EPG to be populated |
| [22:33:03] | kgbudz: | goto the physical tuner hardware section |
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| [22:33:10] | kgbudz: | in mythtvsetup |
| [22:33:19] | juski: | kgbudz: shhh for now please |
| [22:33:20] | kgbudz: | and assign your tv channels to the card |
| [22:33:23] | Blaksmith: | ok, cpu is much happier.. hehe the fan was clogged! |
| [22:33:29] | Blaksmith: | see if it continues to overheat now |
| [22:33:30] | xris: | ooh, my video card found my tv today. cool, can watch mythtv AND work. :) |
| [22:34:18] | juski: | just realised I musta been a smidgeon hung over this morning. I didn't turn my voice back on |
| [22:34:33] | TonyS: | thanks, will try that, will report back... brb (mythtvbox is in other room) |
| [22:34:54] | juski: | TonyS: that's why ssh, vnc et al were invented ;) |
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| [22:35:12] | kgbudz: | yup... |
| [22:35:21] | xris: | juski: well, blootube 4:3 looks good on the tv. :) |
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| [22:35:54] | kgbudz: | i just updated my nvidia drivers and now it pushes video playback over vnc |
| [22:35:54] | juski: | heheh. and with janneg's patch – once I include it, will work better with SVN |
| [22:35:59] | kgbudz: | which is actually a bad thing |
| [22:36:24] | kgbudz: | before i would use vnc to send keypresses to myth |
| [22:36:25] | juski: | no bad thing if you're developing a theme though ;) |
| [22:36:50] | juski: | the only time I need a monitor hooked up to my linux box up here |
| [22:36:51] | kgbudz: | thats fine, but when you try to push video over vnc |
| [22:36:53] | kgbudz: | it kind of breaks down |
| [22:37:06] | juski: | the framerate sucks, I know |
| [22:37:23] | juski: | or do you mean it goes "ehjrjkthwkrejhtrkwjehtrkjwhrrrrrrrrm"? |
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| [22:37:33] | kgbudz: | i would love to find a video compatible kvma over ip |
| [22:37:37] | juski: | like all scrambled |
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| [22:37:55] | kgbudz: | no, it just sucks up resources |
| [22:37:59] | kgbudz: | and i see 1–2 frames a second |
| [22:38:24] | juski: | kgbudz: you need to make a remote app that uses the telnet interface for mythfrontend ;) |
| [22:38:40] | kgbudz: | telnet interface??? |
| [22:38:44] | juski: | yeah |
| [22:38:49] | janneg: | juski: the video preview area fix should also be useful for 0.20* |
| [22:38:50] | kgbudz: | interesting... |
| [22:39:14] | kgbudz: | i would very much like to have an app to send keystroke over to myth |
| [22:39:20] | juski: | janneg: probably, can't say I noticed it here, though you might've had an older version. it went through so many updates in the last few days |
| [22:39:23] | kgbudz: | or a method |
| [22:39:51] | kgbudz: | where can i get info on this telnet interface? |
| [22:39:53] | juski: | I've not looked at the diff yet – needed a break from seeing xml files for a bit |
| [22:40:26] | juski: | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-11.html#ss11.6 |
| [22:40:55] | lophyte: | anyone have any experience with rivatv? |
| [22:41:13] | kgbudz: | so i guess i use the key command... |
| [22:42:34] | kgbudz: | wow, this is a nice feature |
| [22:42:44] | kgbudz: | this is perfect |
| [22:44:21] | juski: | cesman: wanna promo video? ;) |
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| [22:45:11] | cesman: | sure! |
| [22:45:16] | magicrobotmonke1: | hey can anyone here help me with a channel frequecy issue? |
| [22:45:40] | juski: | http://www.mythtvtalk.com/ProjectGrayhem/videos/ – LWmythpromo.mpg I think |
| [22:46:34] | cesman: | any pr0n I can download?! ;) |
| [22:46:44] | juski: | get some use out of it, it's only seen the light of day at LW |
| [22:46:55] | juski: | haha none I wanna make public |
| [22:47:36] | s34n: | http://parker1.co.uk/mythtv_ubuntu.php claims mythtv 0.20 is available from the ubuntu universe/multiverse, but it doesn't seem to be |
| [22:47:48] | juski: | s34n: it is, on edgy |
| [22:48:03] | caitlin: | and it's sweet |
| [22:48:14] | s34n: | juski: I have edgey, how do I go about configuring apt to see it? |
| [22:48:28] | magicrobotmonke1: | yea it is sweet |
| [22:48:37] | juski: | better to use superm1's repo IMHO though |
| [22:48:49] | kgbudz: | how should i make a key wrapper to work with the frontend telnet session |
| [22:49:02] | kgbudz: | so if i hit the arrow keys, it sends key up... |
| [22:49:05] | kgbudz: | any ideas? |
| [22:49:15] | kgbudz: | preferable a script |
| [22:49:15] | juski: | kgbudz: erm.. learn to program? |
| [22:49:18] | Blaksmith: | wonder if it will save across the network better now |
| [22:49:20] | kgbudz: | haha |
| [22:49:50] | kgbudz: | making a program is going to be a lot of work |
| [22:49:58] | juski: | cesman: if you want that video with any other features, like a logo burnin, lemme know in good time |
| [22:50:20] | kgbudz: | but it is a plain telnet session... |
| [22:50:39] | magicrobotmonke1: | i have a channel that doesnt come in normally, but in tvtime i can finetune to it, but i cant translate that to the frequency offset i should use in myth |
| [22:50:40] | kgbudz: | im sure someone has already written one.. |
| [22:50:40] | juski: | there are telnet thingies for stuff such as perl, so it shouldn't be rocket science |
| [22:50:54] | kgbudz: | nope, i was just going to write one in c |
| [22:51:08] | juski: | http://www.mythtv.co.nz/mythtv/?p=30 |
| [22:51:28] | cesman: | :) |
| [22:51:29] | ** Blaksmith thinks is computer is happy now.. http://uhtc.net/~blak/before.jpg and http://uhtc.net/~blak/after.jpg hahahaah ** | |
| [22:51:35] | cesman: | I was going to point him to that |
| [22:51:36] | juski: | oo now I know some css, I could make a web remote thingy |
| [22:51:57] | ** juski puts on yet another hat ** | |
| [22:52:53] | juski: | I'm like a moth to a flame.. start a job, something more exciting comes along.. bang |
| [22:53:14] | juski: | one of my resolutions is to finish stuff before I start more :) |
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| [22:53:32] | kgbudz: | ya, a web based remote control wont really work |
| [22:53:59] | kgbudz: | for me |
| [22:55:15] | TonyS: | yo juski, double checked settings, found that the channel wasn't linked with the correct one. reset to EIT annnnddd it works! |
| [22:55:25] | TonyS: | so yay. :D |
| [22:55:52] | juski: | nice one :) |
| [22:56:21] | juski: | enjoy your mythtv ... then go out & buy some more tuners. you think you won't but you will |
| [22:56:39] | TonyS: | i got 2 x dvb-t cards, so one for watching and another for recording. :) |
| [22:56:52] | TonyS: | the only thing I need to do is to get a better aerial setup... |
| [22:56:59] | juski: | or 2 for recording, and watch something pre-recorded :) |
| [22:57:09] | TonyS: | lol, yeah |
| [22:57:22] | juski: | livetv is even more last century now |
| [22:57:36] | TonyS: | also, web based... need to figure it out. it's asking for id and password. i used the same logon as I set it up, but it wont accept it... grr |
| [22:59:39] | juski: | eesh my clock was 47 seconds slow |
| [22:59:58] | juski: | hence my wife complaining of missing the end of her soaps & taking some points off the WAF |
| [23:01:11] | TonyS: | quick question. currently using debian as o/s... is it ok or should I use somehting better? |
| [23:01:31] | caitlin: | nuffink wrong with debian |
| [23:01:40] | juski: | if it works, why change it? |
| [23:02:07] | orrion: | debian is usually geared toward the more experienced users, if thats for you... |
| [23:02:10] | TonyS: | yeah. i was just wondering. :) |
| [23:02:40] | caitlin: | ppft slackware is for the experienced |
| [23:03:08] | orrion: | ok, that and gentoo, but experienced i am not |
| [23:03:14] | juski: | heh no wonder my clock was off. bunty isn't using ntp |
| [23:04:16] | juski: | that's better |
| [23:04:19] | festr: | hello |
| [23:04:33] | juski: | right – time for bed. back to w*** tomorrow.. or should that be css-fu ? ;) |
| [23:04:36] | juski: | g'night |
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| [23:04:38] | TonyS: | lol, same here |
| [23:04:43] | Blaksmith: | nope, still can't save across the netowrk "happily" :( |
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| [23:04:44] | festr: | juski: remember me? deinterlacing problem |
| [23:04:48] | TonyS: | work tmorrow... first time for over a week |
| [23:04:48] | Blaksmith: | oh well hehe |
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| [23:04:51] | orrion: | lol |
| [23:05:23] | festr: | anyone know something about deinterlacing -> xv with radeon |
| [23:05:24] | festr: | ? |
| [23:05:24] | juski: | festr: I'm going to bed. g'night & good luck |
| [23:05:33] | festr: | juski: good night |
| [23:05:44] | TonyS: | juski, thanks for the help again |
| [23:05:58] | orrion: | juski: good night |
| [23:06:02] | festr: | it seems that my radeon overlay use deinterlace |
| [23:06:09] | festr: | and i could not turn it off |
| [23:06:20] | festr: | i've tryed mythtv, mplayer, xine |
| [23:06:21] | festr: | no luck |
| [23:06:31] | festr: | it seems its somhow hardcoded |
| [23:06:40] | festr: | i'm using VGA->RGB scart |
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| [23:08:37] | magicrobotmonkey: | huh |
| [23:09:04] | magicrobotmonkey: | if i open mythtv and turn it to the channel i can then use tvtime to finetune it and i can see it in myth |
| [23:10:32] | orrion: | you must not be using ivtv drivers |
| [23:10:44] | jblack: | This is driving me crazy. I've just spent an hour googling for whether the "targus wireless presenter AMP01us" (a handheld slide thingy) works with linux or not. |
| [23:11:02] | jblack: | an hour later, I can't tell whether it works or not. Its as if no one has even tried. |
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| [23:12:52] | orrion: | i just went to www.google.com/linux and typed targus wireless presenter and the third hit was mikas blog saying that it worked |
| [23:13:17] | orrion: | with grml whatever that is |
| [23:13:36] | jblack: | Its the first link here. |
| [23:13:43] | jblack: | Awesome. |
| [23:13:48] | jblack: | I forgot about google.com/linux |
| [23:14:01] | orrion: | i always use it for linux related stuff |
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| [23:35:04] | jojo1212: | happy new year Y'all |
| [23:35:39] | defend: | i have a wierd problem that i was woundering if any one ever came across when i watch a video from mythvideo mplayer ignores keyboard input but if i run mplayer from the command line it works fine. if i watch a tv show it works fine. any ideas? realy sucks not being able to pause or adjust the volume |
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| [23:36:17] | nvzn: | anyone know why my mythtv-setup buttons are off the screen? |
| [23:36:56] | nvzn: | ie. the mythtv-setup window is too large for my resolution |
| [23:36:58] | GreyFoxx: | defend: start using a window manager |
| [23:37:04] | magicrobotmonkey: | are you using beryl? |
| [23:37:31] | defend: | just the straight up xorg |
| [23:37:46] | GreyFoxx: | defend: hence why I said use a window manager |
| [23:37:54] | defend: | i would prefer if i didnt even need to use that since i dont have a mouse lol |
| [23:37:56] | GreyFoxx: | it's a window managers job to handle keyboard focus issues |
| [23:38:09] | GreyFoxx: | Nothing about a window manager requires a mouse :) |
| [23:38:30] | defend: | well i couldnt figure out how to open a shell in kde with the kb |
| [23:38:31] | defend: | lol |
| [23:38:50] | orrion: | defend: did you irrecord or configure the buttons into your lircrc file? |
| [23:39:07] | defend: | orrion no |
| [23:39:18] | GreyFoxx: | defend: Use a minimal WM like icewm, fluxbox, ratpoison etc |
| [23:39:28] | defend: | i think grey is right about the window focus cause that is what it seems like |
| [23:39:35] | GreyFoxx: | they will handle keyboard focusing when you have an app spawn a second app |
| [23:39:56] | orrion: | wierd |
| [23:39:57] | GreyFoxx: | If you use nothing but the internal player you could get away with no WM (assuming you aren';t using mythgame) |
| [23:40:02] | defend: | do you know how to open a shell with the bk in any of them? |
| [23:40:15] | GreyFoxx: | "bk" ? |
| [23:40:19] | defend: | kb |
| [23:40:21] | defend: | sorry |
| [23:40:30] | GreyFoxx: | Why would you need a shell on any of them ? |
| [23:40:50] | defend: | only thing i use that seems to need it is mythvideo cause it uses mplayer |
| [23:41:13] | defend: | so i can start mythfrontend |
| [23:41:20] | defend: | or mythtv-setup |
| [23:41:28] | jojo1212: | people what do i need to change channels on my cable box from mythbox |
| [23:41:34] | GreyFoxx: | pretty much any frontend will let you auto start and app after it starts |
| [23:41:38] | GreyFoxx: | ie for mythfrontend |
| [23:41:48] | cesman: | jojo1212: an "irblaster" |
| [23:41:52] | defend: | jojo if you are going to use the cable box yes |
| [23:41:59] | jams: | or even autostart apps from your .xinitrc |
| [23:42:08] | jojo1212: | sorry for the bold accidental key press |
| [23:42:17] | defend: | ahh good call |
| [23:42:23] | defend: | i could auto start xterm |
| [23:43:16] | jojo1212: | is this irblaster homebrew or i have to buy one also is it the one with headphone jack/serial or is it usb ? |
| [23:43:57] | GreyFoxx: | defend: is this a dedicated mythbox ? |
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| [23:44:09] | defend: | yes |
| [23:44:37] | GreyFoxx: | then just ssh in and start mythtv-setup from the ssh session for the raretimes you need to run it |
| [23:44:43] | GreyFoxx: | and have the system autostart mythfrontend |
| [23:44:43] | defend: | another question any recomendations on a remote ;p |
| [23:46:44] | xris: | defend: mceusb2 |
| [23:46:50] | xris: | or a logitech harmony |
| [23:47:00] | jams: | or streamzap |
| [23:48:10] | jojo1212: | would tivo irblaster work ? |
| [23:49:58] | xris: | jojo1212: you'd have to check the lirc docs |
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| [23:53:46] | defend: | xris what else do i need to set it up beside the remote |
| [23:54:05] | tafryn: | Hey channel, is it worth the extra $20–30 to spring for the 150 with the remote vs the 150 without the remote? |
| [23:54:36] | jduggan_: | tafryn: if you want a remote/ir receiver, sure |
| [23:55:03] | xris: | defend: ? |
| [23:55:13] | xris: | tafryn: depends on which remote you get |
| [23:55:20] | lophyte: | anyone have any experience with using an nvidia video card with video-in for capture? |
| [23:55:22] | defend: | do i need something to read the remote signal? |
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| [23:55:42] | tafryn: | I do, but the question is can I get one cheaper or easier to use/setup elsewhere? |
| [23:56:00] | xris: | defend: depends on which remote you get |
| [23:56:26] | xris: | lophyte: you'll have to check the v4l/v4l2 documentation to see if it's supported |
| [23:56:46] | xris: | tafryn: depends on which remote you get with the pvr-150 (there are different ones) |
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| [23:59:14] | defend: | xris Logitech Harmony 885 Universal Remote Control – Retail |
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| [23:59:54] | xris: | defend: then yes, you'll need a receiver |
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