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Saturday, December 30th, 2006, 00:00 UTC
[00:00:33] BULLE: im not at home currently
[00:00:41] BULLE: so i cant do it, computer is switched off
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[00:01:21] The_Ball: BULLE, you don't have wol?
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[00:03:52] Anduin: emja: the log will have the transcode command it was going to run
[00:04:46] BULLE: The_Ball: nope
[00:04:48] BULLE: its turned off
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[00:07:33] Inssomniak: what exactly causes prebuffering pauses, best I can tell is the frontend is playing the datastream too fast
[00:10:46] BULLE: Inssomniak: or the backend is supplying the data to slow ?
[00:11:19] Inssomniak: I cant see that being the case
[00:11:58] Inssomniak: my network is no where near peak, the backend is relatively powerful running raid0 array
[00:12:13] emja: Anduin: awesome. thanks
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[00:14:12] caitlin: raid0?
[00:14:14] caitlin: puke
[00:16:14] The_Ball: raid0 yes
[00:16:17] kormoc: Mmm.. Raid 0...
[00:16:33] Inssomniak: 147 megabytes a second baby :)
[00:17:02] BULLE: and you need that on a mythbackend, for what ? =)
[00:17:04] The_Ball: reported by what?
[00:17:25] Inssomniak: hdparm -tT /dev/md3
[00:17:52] caitlin: raid0.. just the thing for eating yout data :D
[00:17:59] Inssomniak: I live on the edge
[00:18:02] The_Ball: something is seriously wrong here.... 30mb/s
[00:18:07] Inssomniak: after all, its just mythtv
[00:18:12] caitlin: snot really raid though izzit </etc>
[00:18:17] kormoc: Inssomniak, you do understand that's just raw numbers. in real world, you have filesystem overhead and non-linear access and so it's actually a bit slower :P
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[00:18:24] caitlin: yeh, if it's just telly programs, who cares
[00:18:43] Inssomniak: kormoc, well, yea, but most ppl just spit out raw numbers, it keeps it consistent :)
[00:19:13] caitlin: by buffered reads are only 60mb/s
[00:19:23] The_Ball: caitlin, sure, raid0 2x160 for myth storage and raid5 6x320 for valuable data
[00:19:50] caitlin: what a lot of disks
[00:20:04] kormoc: The_Ball, well, really, LVM is much nicer then raid-0 for just raw storage, as it's easier to add/remove drives from the pool
[00:20:09] ** BULLE also has 6x320gb + 2x200gb in his server **
[00:20:17] BULLE: caitlin: i thought everyone had 6x320gb =)
[00:20:28] caitlin: i've got that in my colo
[00:20:36] emja: shit, and I thought I was doing allright with 1x400 in my myth box
[00:20:44] caitlin: but i'm not allowed a tv aerial to that
[00:20:51] BULLE: caitlin: hehe
[00:21:06] caitlin: i've got a 300 gig in my mythtv box for media
[00:21:08] kormoc: emja, I only have 1x200 gb in my mythbox :P
[00:21:08] BULLE: emja: you are allright with 1x400 no worries
[00:21:16] BULLE: its all about penis size
[00:21:19] caitlin: there's just not that much good telly
[00:21:22] emja: BULLE: not realy, 98% full
[00:21:25] emja: ;-)
[00:21:26] kormoc: tho, I have 2x120 (raid 1) in my webserver, and 3x 320's in my desktop
[00:21:29] caitlin: damn, i don't even *have* a penis :(
[00:21:34] caitlin: i lose
[00:21:35] emja: caitlin: hahaha
[00:21:37] BULLE: caitlin: seee, that is why you have LOTS of disk =)
[00:21:58] caitlin: i dont have lots of disks, i just have a huge network uplink
[00:22:08] Inssomniak: thats my next step, raid1 for the mail server and for the web server, just got to get around to it
[00:22:11] BULLE: well, that is good penis compensation aswell
[00:22:14] kormoc: caitlin, so get a boyfriend and use his as your mesurement of self worth
[00:22:14] caitlin: hurrah
[00:22:36] caitlin: boys are useless
[00:22:48] BULLE: =(
[00:22:51] caitlin: if i got one, it'd fuck up my mythtv box, and try and download pron on it
[00:22:57] BULLE: i bet its mainly boys who have written mythtv
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[00:23:09] BULLE: caitlin: you need to keep us on a short leash
[00:23:14] The_Ball: BULLE, so you beat me by 80gb! damn, but does your myth frontend boot over the network and use ata-over-ethernet for disk?
[00:23:15] BULLE: caitlin: never give us root access
[00:23:20] emja: maybe, but it'll be wives/gfs that test it
[00:23:29] caitlin: never have, never will
[00:23:34] BULLE: The_Ball: nope, my frontend has has an 200gb samsung disk in it
[00:23:40] caitlin: you can have sudo if you're a good girl
[00:23:58] BULLE: The_Ball: the backend has 2x200 in raid1 for os and then 6x320gb raid5 for storrage
[00:24:49] BULLE: caitlin: well, i have long hair, so i guess i can qualify as a girl
[00:24:50] caitlin: do you guys mostly use myth for the TV, or for other features? i have to admit, i mostly download films and listen to music on it.... my gf uses it to record desperate housewives
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[00:25:13] emja: caitlin: only for ripping/caching DVDs and VHS
[00:25:28] BULLE: caitlin: i would say i use it for all the things, i record tv shows, i watch "public domain" media i have downloaded, and i listen to cds
[00:25:34] The_Ball: i use it mostly for tv, have a dual hauppage digital tuner in there
[00:25:38] emja: I have a sep music machine (using mpd), and no TV ariel (sic)
[00:25:41] BULLE: caitlin: right now, my fiance is using it as a dvd player, watching scarlet pinpernell on dvd
[00:25:59] emja: BULLE: ugh
[00:26:05] ** BULLE hopes he got scarlet pinpernell right **
[00:26:08] BULLE: emja: ugh ?
[00:26:23] emja: scarlet pimpernel? sounds like my wife. ugh
[00:26:24] emja: ;-)
[00:26:28] BULLE: ah =)
[00:26:32] caitlin: BULLE, you didn't but i'm buggered if i know how to spell it
[00:26:32] BULLE: no, its not yoru wife
[00:26:47] The_Ball: how long does it take to seek in a recorded show? for me it takes about three-four seconds after pressing the forward key to playing is resumed, is that normal?
[00:27:32] emja: but I reckon she can watch scarlet pimpernel or pride & prejudice (with headphones) as long as I can watch Alien/Aliens, V, Heroes, etc
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[00:28:48] The_Ball: sorry, didn't mean to kill the conversation with an on topic question ;)
[00:28:55] emja: heh
[00:29:07] emja: The_Ball: seeking is instant for me
[00:29:34] The_Ball: hum, seperate front/back-end?
[00:29:39] emja: nope
[00:30:46] The_Ball: instant seeking would be sweet, i have to put some effort into finding out what's wrong
[00:32:42] ** caitlin nips to break her other frontend to see what happens **
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[00:35:13] caitlin: mine skips instantly
[00:35:21] caitlin: even on a remote frontend over wifi
[00:35:29] ** xris wonders what to do with 22 inches of 1680x1050 glory.. **
[00:35:38] kormoc: new monitor?
[00:35:59] The_Ball: caitlin, how powerfull is the frontend?
[00:36:20] Blaksmith: WOOHOO!!!! home-made ir blaster is WORKIN!
[00:36:23] Slartybartfast: mine is instant too. P4 1.8
[00:36:29] caitlin: well, it's running scaling
[00:36:33] caitlin: so atm 800mhz
[00:36:43] caitlin: "some ram" i dunno
[00:36:46] The_Ball: hmm, are you recording digital streams?
[00:36:47] caitlin: it's a laptop
[00:36:57] caitlin: it is playing back a film that is currently being recorded
[00:37:44] The_Ball: my frontend is a athlon64 3500 with 512 mem but pauses for long times here and there, and seeks poorly
[00:38:17] caitlin: 'sfucked
[00:38:18] caitlin: bin it
[00:38:25] Ryushin: kormoc: Upgrade to 1900x1300 glory, and then to 2560x1600.
[00:38:27] The_Ball: hey!
[00:38:29] caitlin: :p
[00:38:35] xris: Blaksmith: congratz
[00:38:40] xris: kormoc: yes. I am weak.
[00:38:46] caitlin: my backend is an althon64 32000
[00:38:48] caitlin: -0
[00:38:54] caitlin: with a gig, i thin
[00:38:59] xris: well, went for the nice viewsonic from costco with a 3 year warranty and the costco return policy. heh.
[00:39:33] Ryushin: xris: Sounds like a good deal.
[00:39:38] caitlin: 3/4 gig, so sayeth free
[00:40:04] Slartybartfast: The_Ball: sounds like you have setup issues. I saw that once the first time I tried a remote FE, but re-installed the FE and it worked fine.
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[00:40:26] Slartybartfast: I may have chosen a new hostname (and hence got a clean slate for database settings for the FE)
[00:40:31] xris: Ryushin: slightly more than the sceptre from newegg with slightly nicer specs... but I like the warranty and ability to return easily if it had dead pixels (which it doesn't)
[00:40:32] The_Ball: my backend is less powerfull than my frontend and has 512ram as well, that might be an issue
[00:40:42] Ryushin: I built my new front end for upstairs. I'm just beating my head agains the wall now to get the wireless up to 2.4 MB/s like I had it running 3 weeks ago.
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[00:41:11] Slartybartfast: The_Ball: 512 should be heaps. I have a diskless FE working well with P4 1.8, 512M.
[00:41:19] The_Ball: as backend?
[00:41:27] Slartybartfast: FE
[00:41:35] ** xris tries to find some HD on myth so he can see what it looks like **
[00:41:38] The_Ball: it's only at 1% load when recording from the haupage card though
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[00:41:43] Slartybartfast: BE is P4 2.4 256M.
[00:41:43] Ryushin: xris: Yea, I've been spec'ing out the samsung 22" from newegg. I've gotten 8 of them so far with no dead pixels. I think they are like $370 or so.
[00:42:22] xris: this was about $380 after tax. my old 19" is samsung. good brand.
[00:42:27] xris: I went for the local return policy. heh
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[00:43:51] xris: I think I've maxed out my network bandwidth with HD, though.
[00:44:17] xris: all jumpy
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[00:48:43] LNX3mpyr: hi
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[00:54:37] xris: hmm, 3M/s and it gets jumpy.. only 30% cpu use, too. odd.
[01:01:56] The_Ball: i've upgraded to a dedicated 1gb link between my FE & BE to solve my problems
[01:03:00] Ryushin: xris: yea, it should be smooth at that point. I'm still trying to fix my wireless for HD. It's just not happy.
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[01:03:51] defaultro: what the .... ?! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oZGYb92isE
[01:04:59] ** defaultro is scratching his head right now, is it true or not....... **
[01:05:20] Ryushin: defaultro: Yea, good news. I guess we'll believe it when they release the source in January.
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[01:05:25] defaultro: :D
[01:05:38] defaultro: problem now is, will they make drives for computers, hehehe
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[01:06:00] Ryushin: From what I understand, blueray has another layer of encryption on top of AACS.
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[01:06:09] defaultro: gotcha
[01:06:14] Ryushin: So that will be further down the road.
[01:06:37] xris: yeah, odd. I'm not even deinterlacing
[01:06:48] Ryushin: And they have not gotten the master key yet, so they have to get a key for every HD-DVD title.
[01:06:51] defaultro: i highly praise the group that did that
[01:07:03] defaultro: what's with their brain cells that i don't have, LOL
[01:07:16] xris: not a topic we'd like discussed here....
[01:07:23] defaultro: yep, erased :D
[01:07:42] Ryushin: The problem is though, from what I understand, the players have firmware, and all the MPAA has to do is release a new disk that you happen to buy, that has the new firmware on it, and it will auto upgrade your player.
[01:07:43] defaultro: hope we can delete that from beirdo's log
[01:07:58] defaultro: yep, that's possible too
[01:08:18] defaultro: i'll get my player then from taiwan
[01:08:22] defaultro: or malaysia
[01:08:24] defaultro: hehehe
[01:08:26] rogue780: does anyone know how to change the screensaver options in xubuntu with the openbox window manager?
[01:08:41] Ryushin: So I don't think there is going to be any long term crack for blueray or HD-DVD.
[01:08:48] defaultro: k
[01:09:17] Ryushin: Here's hoping I'm wrong though.  :)
[01:09:24] defaultro: hehehe
[01:10:15] defaultro: i think, the best secret key to use is per person and that key would be your bank account number plus password
[01:10:26] defaultro: coz you won't give it out, hahaha
[01:10:51] defaultro: like RSA's 2 factor auth, i don't know if it has been cracked
[01:11:02] defaultro: so before you are able to play, you have to enter a pin, LOL
[01:11:21] defaultro: it's a PITA and funny too
[01:11:51] Ryushin: I guess only time will tell.
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[01:12:39] Cardoe: I'm just gonna start getting some basic UPNP players
[01:12:43] Cardoe: maybe DVD players
[01:12:46] Cardoe: and using those as front ends
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[01:13:41] Ravi1974: I'm following directions to install Ubuntu MythTV on their website. I am getting stuck after installing the mythtv packages
[01:13:46] Ryushin: Probably cheaper than the new front end that I just bought. Though, I do like it very much.
[01:13:51] defend: any recomendations for filesystem types for lvm?
[01:13:57] Ryushin: fat32
[01:14:01] defend: lol
[01:14:14] Ravi1974: it says (gnome-screensaver:18712): gnome-screensaver-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[01:14:15] Ravi1974: mythtvinst: line 3: msttcorefonts: command not found
[01:14:15] Ravi1974: mythtvinst: line 4: usplash-theme-ubuntu: command not found
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[01:14:54] Ryushin: Well, if you are going to re-size it up and down, you really only have two choices, ext3, and reiserfs.
[01:14:56] Cardoe: ubuntu ftl
[01:15:04] Cardoe: defaultro: for your videos? xfs
[01:15:24] defend: i was thinking xfs
[01:15:26] Cardoe: Ryushin: both too slow for deletes
[01:15:32] Cardoe: Ryushin: and xfs grows online
[01:15:34] defend: how is jfs?
[01:15:37] Ryushin: defend: What are you trying to accomplish with LVM?
[01:15:39] defend: never used it before
[01:15:42] Cardoe: ext3 and reiser are offline
[01:15:55] Ryushin: Cardoe: True, but XFS and JFS can't shrink.
[01:15:58] Cardoe: Ryushin: two drives / partitions in one probably.
[01:16:13] defend: mostly to keep from having to mount a whole bunch of drives and diff mount points for my movie hdds
[01:16:19] Ryushin: It's just I would choose storage groups over LVM at this point.
[01:16:24] Ravi1974: please help.
[01:16:32] defend: i wount shrink maybe expand but never shrink
[01:16:45] caitlin: Ravi1974, what guide are you using?!
[01:16:52] caitlin: google parker1
[01:16:56] caitlin: do that... it works
[01:17:03] Ravi1974: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Edgy_Backend_Frontend
[01:17:23] defend: can you grow xfs?
[01:17:52] Ravi1974: caitlin: I will try it
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[01:18:56] caitlin: i used the desktop version, not the server version
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[01:20:08] Ryushin: Arrrgggg!!!!! My wireless just won't go above 1.7 MB right now. This is causing me great frustration.
[01:20:50] defaultro: Cardoe?
[01:20:59] defaultro: <Cardoe> defaultro: for your videos? xfs
[01:21:12] defaultro: what do you mean?
[01:21:42] Cardoe: I was talking to someone else and said your name
[01:21:47] defaultro: hahaha :D
[01:21:54] defaultro: i reread above and saw it
[01:22:01] Zider: bad tabbing ;)
[01:22:48] sanmarcos: Ryushin, pass the cocaine
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[01:25:27] defaultro: question folks, assuming we are using xinerama or twinview(horizonal panning), will mythfrontend be shown on 2 separate screens so that they're cut into 2?
[01:25:35] sanmarcos: no
[01:25:41] Ryushin: sanmarcos: Nah, I just bang my head against the wall until it get solved, or I pass out, whichever comes first.
[01:25:52] sanmarcos: defaultro, thats a feature of your video card, not myth
[01:26:01] defaultro: wait, you didn't get my question
[01:26:04] defaultro: again
[01:26:20] defaultro: assuming xinerama is already enabled and it's working
[01:26:38] defaultro: so i can drag a terminal screen back and forth
[01:26:50] defaultro: it's like very wide screen but 2 physical really
[01:27:08] defaultro: so if we play mythfrontend, will it fill the 2 physical screens?
[01:27:46] GreyFoxx: I think it will only fill 1 of them
[01:27:51] defaultro: oh :(
[01:28:17] GreyFoxx: I don't think you can splut the xv surfaces like that but I've never tried.
[01:28:23] defaultro: ok
[01:28:37] GreyFoxx: I used xinerama at work and manually force myth to a specific screensize, I don't use it fullscreen
[01:29:04] defaultro: i was hoping i can mimic what the CRT pj gods are doing. However, they were using a blending equipment
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[01:29:34] defaultro: screen/movie is split into 2 and sent to 2 projectors hanging on the ceiling
[01:29:58] defaultro: so i was thinking of splitting the movie too using xinerama and then 2 vga out from my pc is connected to the 2 projectors
[01:30:12] defaultro: then i will converge them manually
[01:30:21] defaultro: like what the guys do, manual convergence
[01:30:21] GreyFoxx: In some attempt to have amassively wide screen?
[01:30:25] GreyFoxx: Why would you do it ?
[01:30:28] defaultro: you got It!!! :D
[01:30:39] defaultro: to save raster on the CRT pj
[01:30:48] GreyFoxx: But you can get widescreen projectors, why would you do it otherwise?
[01:30:50] GreyFoxx: Pffft
[01:30:51] defaultro: they said that using 1.77 is already huge task for CRT
[01:31:00] GreyFoxx: sound silly to me :)
[01:31:02] defaultro: i wanted the CRT pj and not the digital
[01:31:35] defaultro: I have seen a CRT pj in HD and I was totally amazed compared to a $4000 digital projector I saw
[01:31:57] defaultro: it's like real, very nice flesh and blacks
[01:32:05] defaultro: but also heard that digital is coping up with CRT
[01:32:57] defaultro: CRT pj needs controlled light room though as compared to digital pjs
[01:33:22] defaultro: so XV then is the part that cannot be separated :(
[01:34:13] GreyFoxx: Not saying it can;t be done, just that I've never tried it or seen it done.
[01:34:26] defaultro: ok
[01:34:26] GreyFoxx: I'd be happily suprised if it worked
[01:34:29] defaultro: yep
[01:34:31] defaultro: me too
[01:34:40] defaultro: blendzilla equipment is so expensive
[01:34:47] defaultro: about $2500 or more
[01:35:04] defaultro: if we can do it with our multi vga port card, that would be awesome
[01:35:19] defaultro: that we be called, poor man's projector blending :D hehehe
[01:35:28] defaultro: s/we/would/
[01:37:12] xris: juski: guess I need a windescreen theme now...
[01:37:32] xris: annoying, though.. since I run myth on two screens on this box. will need different settings for each monitor.
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[01:40:22] defaultro: brb folks
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[01:43:54] Cardoe: hrm... my pchdtv card records in 4:3 instead of 16:9
[01:44:14] Cardoe: looks like ass... since its 16:9 1080i content... so it's crushing
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[01:48:38] defend: at least your hd card works ;p
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[01:54:11] Inssomniak: I havent tried recording with the pchdtv card yet
[01:54:18] Inssomniak: otherwise it works well
[01:54:58] xris: Cardoe: it shouldn't be doing any modification to the transmission stream.
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[01:55:22] Cardoe: well if I connect via mplayer... I watch CSI in wide screen happily
[01:55:42] xris: what if you play the recordings with mplayer?
[01:56:00] Cardoe: Myth's? they show a wide screen window
[01:56:03] Cardoe: but with black bars
[01:56:09] Cardoe: and everything is smooshed
[01:56:36] xris: did you transcode them?
[01:56:47] Cardoe: nope.
[01:56:53] xris: wacky.
[01:56:54] Cardoe: No transcoding stuff going on
[01:57:00] Cardoe: I also get this from the output
[01:58:03] ** xris curses having to go back to using tables to get mythweb to look right. **
[01:58:07] defend: figure i will ask again since i am here ;p any one using a fusionhdtv rt card?
[01:58:10] Cardoe: A:4308.0 V:4307.9 A-V: 0.021 ct: 0.631 2186/2097 50% 7% 27.4% 1089 0 26%
[01:58:10] Cardoe: demux_mpg: 30000/1001fps NTSC content detected, switching framerate.
[01:58:10] Cardoe: Warning! FPS changed 47.952 -> 59.940 (-11.988010) [7] % 27.4% 1089 0 26%
[01:58:10] Cardoe: A:4308.1 V:4308.1 A-V: 0.043 ct: 0.644 2194/2104 50% 7% 27.3% 1089 0 26%
[01:58:10] Cardoe: demux_mpg: 24000/1001fps progressive NTSC content detected, switching framerate.
[01:58:55] xris: Cardoe: odd
[01:59:00] xris: defend: sorry, not me.
[01:59:10] defend: :<
[01:59:19] defend: some day i will get it working
[02:00:13] xris: might try the mailing list. a lot more people there.
[02:01:28] festr: hello
[02:02:00] defend: good call lol
[02:02:16] defend: never thought to do that and i am on like 20 lists already lol
[02:02:18] festr: i've finally investigated why my directfb (vga->scart rgb) shows 768x576 "jumping" screen. i need to turn on composite sync on my videocard
[02:02:36] xris: defend: it's pretty busy. could check the list archives, too.
[02:02:44] festr: i can do this in xorg modeline "composite" option but it seems there is no way to do in directfb. any idea
[02:02:47] festr: ?
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[02:31:20] Blaksmith: woot! just tried a recording with channel change.. it worked!!!!!!
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[02:32:16] defend: with what
[02:32:17] defend: lol
[02:34:09] Blaksmith: home made ir blaster
[02:34:17] Blaksmith: to control my sat dish
[02:37:13] defend: lol
[02:37:15] defend: nice
[02:37:19] defend: congrats
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[02:41:31] Blaksmith: and, have the files being stored on my 300g drive on my win box now ;)
[02:41:39] Blaksmith: lots of room hehe
[02:43:15] defend: lol
[02:43:25] defend: i am moving my stuff arround as we speak
[02:43:30] defend: and setting up lvm
[02:43:51] Blaksmith: heh
[02:44:57] tcpsyn: you made the ir blaster?
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[02:57:40] Blaksmith: yep I did tcpsyn  :)
[02:57:47] tcpsyn: nice.
[02:57:50] tcpsyn: good work.
[02:58:10] Blaksmith: and found the codes for my pansat hehe :0
[02:58:15] Blaksmith: works great!
[02:58:26] tcpsyn: awesome.
[02:58:37] tcpsyn: Makes me want to get that digital cable reciever.
[02:59:53] tcpsyn: my remote is a little off.
[03:00:09] tcpsyn: seems like every third keypress it makes twice.
[03:02:10] Blaksmith: heh
[03:03:06] Blaksmith: hmmm it's doing a lot of bit bashing over the network after a show has been recorded
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[03:04:20] tcpsyn: transcoding?
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[03:04:38] tcpsyn: or.. flagging commercials?
[03:04:40] Blaksmith: doing something..
[03:04:48] Blaksmith: might be doing the flagging..
[03:04:48] tcpsyn: probably commflagging.
[03:04:50] tcpsyn: yea
[03:04:58] Blaksmith: that was the first "recording" I have done of an actual show
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[03:05:14] tcpsyn: nice.
[03:05:15] Blaksmith: most other recordings have been tests
[03:05:25] tcpsyn: I had a few days of tests.
[03:05:40] Blaksmith: apparently, I can't really "watch" it till it is done
[03:05:41] tcpsyn: I'm still trying to get my priorities set up the way I want. I need another pvr150
[03:05:53] tcpsyn: you should be able to watch it.
[03:06:06] Blaksmith: it gets to where the first commercial is, and it just stops
[03:06:23] Blaksmith: using the mythtvPlayer (win version)
[03:07:09] tcpsyn: does it do the same on mythfrontend?
[03:07:20] Blaksmith: I'm watching the data going right now.. 1.4MB/s into the linux box, and 65K back out to the win box (the files are being stored on the win box)
[03:07:32] Blaksmith: checking
[03:09:21] tcpsyn: I'm considering enabling transcoding to remove the commercials. It's gonna kill my proc.
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[03:09:38] tcpsyn: mythstreamtv doesn't skip them.
[03:09:50] Blaksmith: nomego, but the data is garbled at times..
[03:10:00] Blaksmith: nomego, but the data is garbled at times..
[03:10:03] Blaksmith: oops
[03:10:10] Blaksmith: stupid name complete hahahaa
[03:10:17] Blaksmith: ... no but the...
[03:10:45] xris: tcpsyn: use lossless transcode
[03:11:17] tcpsyn: that takes load off the proc?
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[03:13:54] xris: tcpsyn: yes. it doesn't reencode. just removes commercials
[03:14:10] tcpsyn: nice. Thanks.
[03:14:36] tcpsyn: It's safe, I assume
[03:14:38] tcpsyn: ?
[03:15:20] ** Blaksmith may need to do that heh **
[03:18:11] xris: tcpsyn: for the most part. freaks out on some dvb type recordings.
[03:18:20] xris: most of that fixed in svn, though
[03:18:51] tcpsyn: I'm scared to upgrade.
[03:20:56] janneg: svn trunk is pretty stable. the rest can't be easily fixed since mpeg2 ps doesn't support a variadic number of audio tracks
[03:24:12] Blaksmith: hrm.. getting this while trying to save across the network: 2006-12–29 19:23:50.153 TFW, Error: Write() — IOBOUND begin cnt(2048) free(1891)
[03:26:32] Blaksmith: blah,, and there are glitches in the vid :(
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[03:27:14] tcpsyn: I'm not sure what the problem is with lirc.
[03:27:36] tcpsyn: if I hit a the down button (or any button) 3 times.. it moves 4.
[03:27:59] tcpsyn: I thought it would be the repeat setting in lircrc, but chainging it doesn't seem to make a difference.
[03:28:01] tcpsyn: Any ideas?
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[03:31:40] Blaksmith: no clue here.. :(
[03:32:48] tcpsyn: I set the repeat to 16... it doesn't seem to make a difference.
[03:36:01] Blaksmith: ok, trying it to the local drive... instead of across the network
[03:36:09] tcpsyn: wise
[03:36:22] Blaksmith: but, I only have like 4g free locally lol
[03:36:30] Blaksmith: but 300g free across the network
[03:36:54] tcpsyn: ouch.
[03:37:08] tcpsyn: a 300G drive is only about a hundred bucks.
[03:37:08] kormoc: Blaksmith, and what are you using to transfer over the network?
[03:37:09] tcpsyn: I picked up one.
[03:37:31] Blaksmith: my win box's shared dir..
[03:37:39] kormoc: Blaksmith, so samba?
[03:37:48] Blaksmith: if this box could handle the sata, I would put it in here..
[03:38:08] Blaksmith: yes, smbmount //ip/dir
[03:38:44] kormoc: Blaksmith, you might need to tweak samba a bit
[03:39:03] Blaksmith: the fun stuff hehe
[03:39:12] SeaWeed: Hello and Good eve all Quick Question im useing Old Triple LNB Direct tv plus Dish With a 4 Port Diseq Switch What is Best Setting for me to Try in Mythtv i know the Setup work workd fine in ( vdr ) but i cant get a signal long in ( mythtv ) can any
[03:39:12] SeaWeed: 1 sed any lite on this ?
[03:39:16] kormoc: Blaksmith, options such as TCP_NODELAY, IPTOS_LOWDELAY, setting the SO_SNDBUF, and similar
[03:40:01] Blaksmith: I thought that was just so win can connect to the nix box... not the other way around
[03:40:18] kormoc: Blaksmith, you can pass in options for smbmount
[03:40:37] kormoc: maybe not all of them are supported client side, but some of them surely are
[03:41:03] Blaksmith: TCP_NODELAY SO_RCVBUF=16384 SO_SNDBUF=16384 .. lemme try that
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[03:49:25] mchou: badass!
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[04:00:20] loopdee: is anyone familiar with bttv ?
[04:00:37] kormoc: a little, what's up?
[04:01:09] loopdee: autoloading doesnt work, i have to modprobe bttv card=70 tuner=6, but all the i2c things are not found
[04:01:17] kormoc: what distro?
[04:01:22] loopdee: debian etch
[04:01:40] Blaksmith: nope, I have tried all different settings.. I may just have to bite the bullet and move stuff from the *nix box to make room lol
[04:01:49] kormoc: well, that's a distro specific issue, and sadly, I don't know debian that well
[04:02:29] loopdee: maybe i2c is something in the kernel ?
[04:02:58] kormoc: i2c is a kernel driver, aye
[04:03:13] loopdee: maybe it is not compiled in or a module.. hmmm
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[04:05:38] Blaksmith: ok, found some hd space I can make :)
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[04:10:33] Blaksmith: well, I know my samba is tweaked fairly well... gettin 9.7MB/s on file xfers from *nix to win
[04:12:13] tcpsyn: slap a drive in there bro
[04:13:17] Blaksmith: naa, I'm moving stuff from a 120g drive on the *nix to the 300g
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[04:16:29] Blaksmith: this box actually already has 3 hd's and 1 cd
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[04:16:41] Blaksmith: 2 120g, and a 40 heh
[04:16:55] Blaksmith: oh wait.. one isn't mounted!!
[04:18:07] Blaksmith: ya, that's the 40 lol
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[04:36:54] DarkDrgn2k: can some one point me to instructions to convert to divx
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[04:43:58] SeaWeed: (DarkDrgn2k) good eve
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[04:45:29] DarkDrgn2k: SeaWeed: hello how fgoes it
[04:45:42] SeaWeed: Well it Goes i finaly got dvb support
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[04:45:44] cheatersrealm: anyone use mythvideo? How do you organize your videos? say you have like tv episodes and movies, etc?
[04:45:52] SeaWeed: but now i cant get it to see Signal
[04:46:05] DarkDrgn2k: see signal
[04:46:05] DarkDrgn2k: ?
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[04:46:20] SeaWeed: Will not lock on Signal and do a Scan
[04:46:30] DarkDrgn2k: you know what.. i have the exact same problem
[04:46:35] DarkDrgn2k: yesturday it was hit or miss
[04:46:42] DarkDrgn2k: today.. i cant get a lock! at all
[04:46:45] DarkDrgn2k: not even with szap
[04:46:53] SeaWeed: Well im not Shure What setting to use sence im new to myth
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[04:47:04] DarkDrgn2k: can you lock with szap?
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[04:47:15] SeaWeed: not shure what that is
[04:47:24] DarkDrgn2k: part of dvb-utils
[04:47:29] SeaWeed: oh
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[04:47:37] SeaWeed: i dont even have that installed
[04:47:40] DarkDrgn2k: lol
[04:47:41] DarkDrgn2k: oh
[04:47:49] DarkDrgn2k: yeh well like i said. i cant get a lock at all...
[04:47:53] DarkDrgn2k: and even nscan doesnt work
[04:48:11] SeaWeed: Dont use but i can open my vdr and Video and Signal pops rite in
[04:48:22] DarkDrgn2k: dam ui
[04:48:23] DarkDrgn2k: lol
[04:48:32] DarkDrgn2k: ok well i cna tell you that myth uses kilahertz
[04:48:39] DarkDrgn2k: so transponders add 000
[04:48:51] DarkDrgn2k: im nost sure about sr
[04:49:14] SeaWeed: think im going to try my dish pro dish cause instruction i have are on DP
[04:49:24] SeaWeed: but i normaly use diseq
[04:51:26] DarkDrgn2k: DP usses tones right
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[04:53:30] SeaWeed: Well ill be Dam
[04:53:55] SeaWeed: Pluged in Dp-34–500 Switch to a DP Twin LNB Signal Came rite in
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[04:59:33] Inssomniak: DP is diseq
[05:00:03] Inssomniak: and the dp34 is the best diseq switch ever made :)
[05:00:20] SeaWeed: yah
[05:00:33] SeaWeed: but it dont see my 4 port diseq
[05:00:43] SeaWeed: i dont want to use dp
[05:00:53] Inssomniak: send it to me :)
[05:01:03] SeaWeed: Well it is feeding my sub's
[05:01:10] Inssomniak: ah
[05:03:07] SeaWeed: lol
[05:03:18] SeaWeed: Now the F*cker will not lock
[05:03:27] SeaWeed: man this is not to good
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[05:12:48] joejoseph00: Hello
[05:14:10] DarkDrgn2k: joe: your not from blistech are you?
[05:16:41] joejoseph00: No I'm from Edmonton
[05:16:55] DarkDrgn2k: lol ok
[05:17:01] DarkDrgn2k: knew a guy by that name that all
[05:17:02] DarkDrgn2k: sory
[05:17:12] joejoseph00: I just bought a Hauppage 350 with remote, looking to install it on Ubuntu
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[05:17:23] joejoseph00: No probs
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[05:18:44] joejoseph00: so ya I'm looking for help with MythTV, not a total newb but new to MythTV
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[05:19:15] Slartybartfast: joejoseph00: if you want the easiest install, go with KnoppMyth
[05:19:50] DarkDrgn2k: ok i been out of the loop a few version of myth
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[05:20:09] DarkDrgn2k: where do you configure the livetv recording siz
[05:20:29] joejoseph00: KnoppMyth? I haven't tried that. I'm going with Ubuntu because I want my mythbox to run my Wifi card and Ubuntu works flawlessly with my wifi card that other distros don't have drivers for
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[05:20:44] joejoseph00: Maybe knoppmyth is cool, it's deb based like Ubuntu I guess
[05:20:56] kormoc: if it works in ubuntu, you can make it work in others
[05:21:02] joejoseph00: I'll have to check that out
[05:21:05] kormoc: likely they all have drivers, just not loaded by default
[05:21:16] DarkDrgn2k: joejoseph00: i just did a pvr150 on fedora..
[05:21:40] DarkDrgn2k: joejoseph00: the drivers for pvr as easy enough.. you can get the newest ones online compies quickly
[05:21:56] joejoseph00: I've got a pvr350. Fedora eh?
[05:22:09] DarkDrgn2k: joejoseph00: but i installed it on mandriva before to. i liek the rpms
[05:22:21] DarkDrgn2k: joejoseph00: pvr350 and pvr150 is essentaially the same thing
[05:22:36] kormoc: unless you want to do the tv out on the 350
[05:22:37] DarkDrgn2k: joejoseph00: pvr350 has video out.. but i hear thast going away slowly.....
[05:22:47] joejoseph00: Cool. I've got a 320 gig drive just waiting to write mpegs
[05:22:59] DarkDrgn2k: joejoseph00: lol well
[05:23:01] kormoc: DarkDrgn2k, no, myth's native support is going away, but there's a generic x driver for the 350 that works for everything
[05:23:11] joejoseph00: I need tv out with the 350 , that's why I got it.
[05:23:17] DarkDrgn2k: what are you runnign now
[05:23:26] kormoc: joejoseph00, really, a pvr 150 + nvidia card is cheaper and better then the 350
[05:23:26] joejoseph00: Ubuntu
[05:23:31] joejoseph00: just installed it like an hour ago
[05:23:36] DarkDrgn2k: what kernel
[05:23:49] joejoseph00: My computer doesn't have an AGP or PCIExpress slot
[05:23:50] DarkDrgn2k: uanme -a
[05:24:32] joejoseph00: 2.6.17-10-generic
[05:24:39] kormoc: joejoseph00, so? there's pci nvidia cards that work fine :P
[05:24:47] DarkDrgn2k: type in:
[05:24:50] DarkDrgn2k: cd /usr/src
[05:24:54] DarkDrgn2k: wget http://dl.ivtvdriver.org/ivtv/archive/0.7.x/ivtv-0.7.3.tar.gz
[05:25:00] DarkDrgn2k: tar xvfz ivtv-0.7.3.tar.gz
[05:25:02] kormoc: ubuntu doesn't install full kernel sources by default
[05:25:06] DarkDrgn2k: cd ivtv-0.7.3
[05:25:07] DarkDrgn2k: make
[05:25:09] DarkDrgn2k: make install
[05:25:12] kormoc: you need more then just the headers to install ivtv by itself
[05:25:24] DarkDrgn2k: hmm yeh you might need the kernel source
[05:25:33] kormoc: and it's not quite that simple, as he doesn't have full compiling tools yet as well
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[05:25:39] joejoseph00: downloading it now
[05:25:44] kormoc: or you could just use the ubuntu ivtv package...
[05:26:05] DarkDrgn2k: does ubunto use apt-get
[05:26:16] kormoc: joejoseph00, follow the offical ubuntu ivtv howto here: http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Howto:Ubuntu
[05:26:17] joejoseph00: making
[05:26:37] joejoseph00: ya apt-get works in ubuntu
[05:26:53] kormoc: DarkDrgn2k, ivtv has offical ubuntu packages made for use that take into account the ubuntu layout differences, which is what every ubuntu user should use
[05:27:11] DarkDrgn2k: kormoc: GAG why cnat they standardize stuff man
[05:27:31] joejoseph00: ya, LSB man, it's like a good trip
[05:27:55] DarkDrgn2k: holy krap.. i cant do yum update on a clean install
[05:27:57] kormoc: ubuntu is actually throwing out a ton of *nix tradition to go it's own way
[05:28:12] kormoc: they're getting rid of sysv and cron and a bunch of other core utils to make their own
[05:28:14] joejoseph00: ya it choked on ivtvctl.o what is ivtv?
[05:28:18] DarkDrgn2k: kormoc: which is basically like saying "i dont want to survive"
[05:28:28] DarkDrgn2k: ivtv is your pvr driver
[05:28:29] DarkDrgn2k: basically
[05:28:31] kormoc: joejoseph00, ivtv is the driver for your pvr 350
[05:28:38] DarkDrgn2k: yoiur better of using http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Howto:Ubuntu
[05:28:49] kormoc: DarkDrgn2k, not entirely. Lots of new users use it and it's super heavly funded
[05:29:07] DarkDrgn2k: kormoc: yes but look at some of these other distros...
[05:29:24] DarkDrgn2k: kormoc: dam i cant even remember their names
[05:29:31] joejoseph00: I didn't know ubuntu was dropping sysv and cron. Why ? anyhow, ubuntu seems to work nicely and has good support but ya, LSB would be nice
[05:29:50] DarkDrgn2k: joejoseph00: and they use deb.. yuk
[05:29:50] kormoc: joejoseph00, they feel they can write a better system... let me see if I can find a link...
[05:30:06] Blaksmith: wheeeeee time to upgrade this box lolMessage from syslogd@localhost at Fri Dec 29 21:29:44 2006 ...
[05:30:06] Blaksmith: localhost kernel: CPU0: Temperature above threshold
[05:30:09] DarkDrgn2k: any one ever see this: error: rpmdbNextIterator: skipping h# 47 Header V3 DSA signature: BAD, key
[05:30:48] joejoseph00: Thanks DarkDrgn2k, I didn't even know that ivtv was the pvr350 driver. Cool, I'm on the right track then
[05:30:58] Slartybartfast: I dont have a 350, but I think knoppmyth asks you during the install process if you want to use your pvr-350 tv out and sets it up automatically.
[05:31:02] DarkDrgn2k: joejoseph00: yeh pvr is REALLY nice i love it
[05:31:07] defend: any lvm users here :< i think i need help lol
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[05:32:14] kormoc: joejoseph00, http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res& . . . WXiM62AO2ZYg
[05:32:16] joejoseph00: KnoppMyth sounds dope, I think I'll have to try that if I can't get this ubuntu thing set up easily.
[05:32:37] kormoc: defend, I use LVM
[05:32:49] Slartybartfast: dope?
[05:32:51] DarkDrgn2k: joejoseph00: if u want a pre packaged solution use knopp...
[05:33:02] kormoc: Slartybartfast, good, yummy, fun, happy...
[05:33:14] Slartybartfast: thats a new one on me.
[05:33:31] Slartybartfast: I gotta get out more.
[05:35:14] defend: FN~kormoc, i have a xfs lvm volume and i recently just added a new disk did pvcreate and vgcreate then lvexpand all with out it being mounted now i cant grow the drive cause it is not mounted and i cant mount it cause i get is not a valid block device
[05:35:20] defend: any sugestions
[05:36:52] joejoseph00: knopp it is
[05:37:03] DarkDrgn2k: joejoseph00: have fun.. its a live cd i think
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[05:37:41] DarkDrgn2k: joejoseph00: install fedora.. you can have it all up and runnign in minutes
[05:38:20] DarkDrgn2k: you need cd 1 and 2 to install
[05:38:27] DarkDrgn2k: but anyway bed time
[05:38:43] kormoc: defend, what is the output from the attempted mount? and are you sure the LVM resized correctly?
[05:38:51] joejoseph00: Fedora?
[05:39:03] defend: yes
[05:39:05] DarkDrgn2k: fedora yes.. community version of redhat
[05:39:13] defend: and the mount attempt made this
[05:39:15] joejoseph00: better thanKnopMyth?
[05:39:18] kormoc: joejoseph00, there's a really really good guide to fedora, or you can use knoppmyth and just have it work out of the box
[05:39:22] defend: ount: /dev/Movies/Movies is not a valid block device
[05:39:40] joejoseph00: out of the box nice, I already use OpenSuSE
[05:39:45] kormoc: joejoseph00, and then there's mythdora that is akin to knoppmyth only based off of fedora rather then knoppix
[05:40:18] joejoseph00: Mythdora might be the way to go. whichever works with my wifi and pvr350
[05:40:25] DarkDrgn2k: joejoseph00: remmeber that pre packeged stuff works if it doesnt break.. if it breaks..... thats when the fun begins cause you have no idea what you did to get it there
[05:40:43] kormoc: defend, do you have any nodes in /dev/vg?
[05:41:01] DarkDrgn2k: joejoseph00: just something to think about
[05:41:31] kormoc: defend, I'd be tempted to think that your dev node should be /dev/vg/Movies not /dev/Movies/Movies
[05:41:44] defend: no
[05:41:59] joejoseph00: I've had lots of fun already
[05:41:59] kormoc: defend, any nodes in /dev/mapper?
[05:42:05] defend: i think i it is cause i made the vg and the lv the same name
[05:42:14] kormoc: ahh, perhaps
[05:42:19] DarkDrgn2k: what ever happend to caldera?
[05:42:19] defend: i had it mounted
[05:42:25] defend: but then i rebooted
[05:42:39] kormoc: defend, so any nodes in /dev/mapper?
[05:42:52] kormoc: defend, might be /dev/mapper/Movies-Movies?
[05:42:55] defend: and then tryed to add a new disk to the vg/lv
[05:43:33] defend: root@mythtv:/home/MythTV# ls -l /dev/mapper/Movies-Movies
[05:43:33] defend: brw-rw---- 1 root disk 253, 1 Dec 29 20:27 /dev/mapper/Movies-Movies
[05:44:16] defend: i think i screwed up and should not have lvextened till it was mounted
[05:44:16] kormoc: defend, can you try mount -t xfs /dev/mapper/Movies-Movies /mnt/wherever/you/want/it/mounted
[05:44:43] defend: mount -t xfs /dev/Movies/Movies /home/MythTV/Movies
[05:44:43] defend: mount: /dev/Movies/Movies is not a valid block device
[05:45:04] kormoc: defend, not /dev/Movies/Movies, /dev/mapper/Movies-Movies
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[05:46:02] defend: nope no go
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[05:46:47] kormoc: defaultro, well, in theory, you can lvm shrink down back to where it was, and then should mount fine
[05:46:53] wide-eye: pvscan; lvscan
[05:47:12] kormoc: wide-eye, the nodes exist, they shouldn't need to be scanned for
[05:47:20] wide-eye: active?
[05:47:30] kormoc: that's a good point actually
[05:47:36] defend: no it is inactice
[05:47:49] kormoc: they do need to be active
[05:47:56] defend: how do i activate it?
[05:48:53] wide-eye: i forget, google tldp lvm
[05:49:02] wide-eye: good guide
[05:49:06] defend: ok cool
[05:49:11] defend: thanks guys
[05:49:19] defend: i will by ya all a beer man
[05:49:42] kormoc: I think if you just do the scans it will bring them up
[05:49:46] kormoc: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/index.html
[05:50:04] kormoc: ahh!
[05:50:08] kormoc: vgchange -ay
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[05:50:14] kormoc: that will activate all of them
[05:50:20] kormoc: (after vgscan)
[05:50:37] kormoc: and then
[05:50:42] kormoc: lvscan lvchange -ay
[05:50:48] kormoc: that will force them all active
[05:52:09] defend: omg it mounted
[05:52:29] defend: thank u
[05:52:32] defend: both of u
[05:52:45] defend: i though i lost my dvd collection
[05:52:49] kormoc: :)
[05:53:01] defend: :< i would have cryed to have to rip all those dvd again
[05:56:16] defend: wee
[05:56:18] defend: /dev/mapper/Movies-Movies
[05:56:18] defend: 596G 274G 323G 46% /home/MythTV/Movies
[05:56:27] defend: thats wait i wanted
[05:56:31] defend: i am so happy now
[05:57:59] kormoc: :)
[06:07:08] Paladine: so anyone figured out a way to find out what mythmusic is play from outside of mythfrontend yet?
[06:07:28] Paladine: damned if I can figure it out
[06:08:45] xris: Paladine: huh?
[06:08:54] xris: english, please?
[06:09:13] Paladine: xris, I want to see what mythmusic is playing from the cli
[06:09:28] xris: oh
[06:09:34] xris: ok, that makes more sense.
[06:09:41] xris: telnet interface might have something
[06:09:48] Paladine: ?
[06:09:55] Paladine: mythmusic has a telnet interface?
[06:10:15] xris: frontend does
[06:10:22] Paladine: oooo tell me more :)
[06:10:27] xris: I don't know how much it interfaces, though
[06:10:45] xris: there are some rudimentary patches for mythweb sitting in trac. If you can read php, you should be able to get an idea.
[06:11:03] xris: "remote control" or something like that
[06:12:38] Paladine: which port does mythfrontend listen on for telnet?
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[06:13:46] xris: not sure
[06:13:50] Paladine: doesn't say on the wiki
[06:13:59] Paladine: just says if you telnet to the port
[06:14:00] xris: I haven't spent much time looking at the patches, just know that it can
[06:14:16] xris: 6544 is the normal control port
[06:15:36] Paladine: just hangs for me after the connect
[06:15:41] Paladine: no login prompt
[06:15:55] kormoc: there is no login
[06:16:16] kormoc: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Telnet_socket
[06:16:26] Paladine: soon as I type something it closes the connection
[06:16:46] kormoc: try 6546
[06:17:17] Paladine: connection refused on 6546
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[06:17:35] kormoc: did you enable the interface like the wiki says you need to?
[06:17:44] Paladine: just about to check that :)
[06:19:31] Paladine: works now :)
[06:22:55] Paladine: no way to determine what track is playing though
[06:25:14] Paladine: mythweb allows you to see what is going on in mythfrontend right?
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[06:30:03] kormoc: no
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[06:31:18] ** xris hates css sometimes. **
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[06:36:10] Paladine: ooops
[06:36:36] Paladine: mysql>show binlog events; is baaaad with a mythtv database ;)
[06:37:46] kormoc: that's why there is a mysql_binlog export program
[06:40:25] Blaksmith: is there an easy way to delete just 1 channel and not the whole list?
[06:45:43] Blaksmith: I found a way
[06:45:47] Blaksmith: painful
[06:45:50] Blaksmith: but it's workin lol
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[06:51:36] cesman: hello hello
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[06:54:55] xris: Blaksmith: could just delete the channel from the db. heh
[06:56:41] mchou: this is ridiculous
[06:57:35] mchou: gmail should just make Mail Fetcher available to every subscriber
[06:59:03] mchou: Bwah!! I'm not one of the favored ones!
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[07:17:14] Blaksmith: hrm.. when I try to schedule Jay Leno, it tries picking 3 channels at the same time..
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[08:14:57] kormoc: anyone here collect music videos?
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[08:25:11] tcpsyn: have any of you had problems using lirc? I've mentioned it before, but I haven't found a solution. Every third keypress is sending as 2.
[08:25:20] tcpsyn: er.. if I hit down 3 times, it moves 4.
[08:25:39] Blaksmith: tcpsyn, you have it set to the right box codes?
[08:25:46] tcpsyn: aye.
[08:26:01] Blaksmith: how about the speed that it is sending out
[08:26:10] Blaksmith: maybe speed it up a touch
[08:26:12] tcpsyn: I can watch it in irw
[08:26:23] tcpsyn: the third keypress registers twice.
[08:26:33] Blaksmith: hrm
[08:26:38] tcpsyn: its really annoying.
[08:26:41] Blaksmith: did you look at the page I posted to you?
[08:26:52] Blaksmith: or is yours a usb or with the card?
[08:27:17] kormoc: tcpsyn, you sure your gap is correct?
[08:27:29] kormoc: tcpsyn, when mine wasn't, it was doing the same sorta of thing
[08:27:36] tcpsyn: kormoc, no. is that in lirc.conf?
[08:27:41] kormoc: lircd.conf
[08:27:47] kormoc: in the remote section
[08:28:11] tcpsyn: gap 114605
[08:28:16] tcpsyn: is that too much?
[08:28:21] Blaksmith: that looks huge
[08:28:36] Blaksmith: what kind of box?
[08:28:50] kormoc: tcpsyn, mine personally is set to 105000
[08:28:57] tcpsyn: haupuagge
[08:29:08] kormoc: but it's not a haupuagge
[08:29:16] kormoc: you might just want to play with that and see if it helps or not
[08:29:29] Blaksmith: gap 107354
[08:29:45] Blaksmith: that's for my pansat 3500 box
[08:32:29] tcpsyn: i tried 105000.. same problem
[08:32:33] tcpsyn: third keypress
[08:32:45] Blaksmith: try mine
[08:33:02] Blaksmith: wheeeeeeee 94% usage load on this box!!!!
[08:33:34] Blaksmith: I think it's time to upgrade this box hahaha
[08:33:46] Blaksmith: especially if I'm going to have it runnin myth
[08:34:12] Blaksmith: and I have the haup runnin hardware encoding, not software.. hehe
[08:34:39] ** Blaksmith wonders what the cpu temp is.. **
[08:38:15] Blaksmith: I guess that it doesn't like bashing the drive heads around lol
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[08:38:48] Blaksmith: I think the driver that runs the nic takes up a LOT of resources..
[08:39:00] Blaksmith: that's why I may have been gettin those other errors earlier
[08:39:12] tcpsyn: should my gap be longer maybe?
[08:39:25] kormoc: can't hurt
[08:40:03] tcpsyn: doesnt do anything.
[08:40:08] kormoc: sucky :/
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[08:40:13] tcpsyn: doesn't seem like any of those settings effect it
[08:40:18] kormoc: that's strange
[08:40:24] kormoc: you are restarting lircd after changing it?
[08:40:34] Blaksmith: ya, must restart every time
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[08:43:44] tcpsyn: I'm restarting it, yea
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[08:49:02] Blaksmith: what box are you trying to control?
[08:50:19] Blaksmith: http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/
[08:50:29] Blaksmith: I grabbed my config file from that page
[08:52:52] tcpsyn: my backend box
[08:53:00] tcpsyn: the box with the ir reciever
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[08:54:04] tcpsyn: i might try the cvs lirc
[08:54:42] Speedy2: tcpsyn: What kind of lirc interface are you using? serial?
[08:54:56] tcpsyn: its in the haupuagge card
[08:55:04] tcpsyn: I believe its serial
[08:55:11] Speedy2: I've heard of various issues with the lirc via the tv card
[08:55:16] Speedy2: Can you build a dedicated serial interface?
[08:55:51] tcpsyn: nomego, I cant.
[08:55:59] Blaksmith: the stb you are trying to control
[08:56:03] tcpsyn: no stb
[08:56:11] tcpsyn: just controlling the backend.
[08:56:26] tcpsyn: I bought a serial blaster.. but I dont have an stb yet
[08:56:48] Blaksmith: ohhhh.. so you are going reverse... using your remote to control myth itself
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[08:57:13] tcpsyn: I also noticed that when I first set it up, irw was showing 3 events for every keypress.. which I think was normal behavior. Now it's only showing one.
[08:57:16] tcpsyn: Blaksmith, yeah.
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[08:58:10] tcpsyn: but regardless, its hiccupping at the irw level.
[08:59:17] Blaksmith: hrm
[08:59:36] Blaksmith: I have no clue at going the reverse direction
[08:59:44] Blaksmith: my 150 doesn't have ird support
[08:59:50] Blaksmith: err ir
[09:00:15] tcpsyn: you have the mce
[09:00:16] tcpsyn: right?
[09:00:21] Blaksmith: yes
[09:00:26] tcpsyn: that be why
[09:00:27] Blaksmith: white box mce
[09:00:35] Blaksmith: which is fine with me. :)
[09:00:40] Blaksmith: I'm happy with my setup now
[09:01:06] Blaksmith: just need to edit the channels to the ones that I actually get heh
[09:03:28] tcpsyn: I have the ir on my backend, and then I grab the events from my frontend box.
[09:03:33] tcpsyn: so the remote controls both
[09:03:44] tcpsyn: on one reciever
[09:03:50] Blaksmith: cool
[09:04:15] tcpsyn: its purty.
[09:04:38] Blaksmith: I'm going to be using frontend to only set up the things I want to record
[09:04:49] Blaksmith: and use my laptop / main win box to watch the recordings :)
[09:05:00] Blaksmith: if I "really" wanna watch live tv, I'll go in the bedroom lol
[09:05:26] tcpsyn: checkout mythstreamtv
[09:05:35] tcpsyn: slick.
[09:05:46] Blaksmith: I was reading a little about it today
[09:05:52] tcpsyn: I finally got it working
[09:05:54] tcpsyn: at work
[09:06:04] Blaksmith: too bad my isp is blocking EVERY FRIGGIN PORT
[09:06:12] tcpsyn: your isp?
[09:06:27] Blaksmith: ya, it's a small hole in the wall place..
[09:06:37] tcpsyn: damnit.
[09:06:39] Blaksmith: they ran 2 T1 lines to the apt complex, into a router
[09:06:46] tcpsyn: I just rebuilt lirc
[09:06:48] tcpsyn: same problem.
[09:06:57] Blaksmith: using 10.0.0.45 is my ip.. but they don't forward ANY ports
[09:07:09] kormoc: Blaksmith, you might be able to request it
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[09:07:16] Blaksmith: I have tried kormoc
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[09:07:47] Blaksmith: hell, I tried to suggest to them "mine is .45, so forward all 4500 – 4599 ports to me"
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[09:08:16] Blaksmith: hrm.. laptop's video is glitchy on wifi..
[09:08:25] kormoc: well, you could get another isp
[09:08:35] Blaksmith: no I can't..
[09:08:41] Blaksmith: long story short
[09:08:52] Blaksmith: I HAD Time Warner.. had AWSOME speeds / service
[09:10:14] Blaksmith: the apt complex I live in, cancelled the contract with TW
[09:10:45] Blaksmith: and went with some hole in the wall isp
[09:11:06] Blaksmith: I can get DSL which is slower, but open ports, or the speed with blocked ports
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[09:12:08] kormoc: so in short, you could get another isp, you just don't want to :P
[09:12:29] Blaksmith: I need the speed
[09:12:42] Blaksmith: I run a radio station, and do live broadcasting
[09:13:00] Blaksmith: I can send out, but not connect to my home box remotely
[09:13:08] kormoc: DSL can get quite speedy, it's just more costly
[09:13:12] xris: Blaksmith: don't talk to kormoc about speed. you'll get jealous
[09:13:27] kormoc: or you could sign up for a t1/t3 yourself if you want a real line
[09:13:28] Blaksmith: probably has fios
[09:13:34] xris: he does
[09:13:53] Blaksmith: Well, I will be moving in the near future, so I'm not "too" worried about it at this time
[09:14:48] Blaksmith: ok, lesson learned.. don't try to watch a recording while xferring files from the *nix box
[09:14:49] Blaksmith: heh
[09:14:58] Blaksmith: trying to free space on my 120g drive
[09:16:05] Blaksmith: the fastest I can get dsl in this apt is 128 / 768. the wires are too small to handle faster
[09:16:11] Blaksmith: I tried a few years ago
[09:16:24] xris: ouch
[09:16:38] kormoc: fair nuff
[09:16:39] Blaksmith: so, ya.. it's 512 up / 1.5 down with no ports open for me
[09:16:43] xris: I finally got comcast business to get around that.
[09:17:02] Blaksmith: wheeee internal net just hit 10.1MB/s hehe
[09:17:09] Blaksmith: one hell of a burst
[09:17:11] The_Ball: im recording digital terestial mpeg2 streams, when is the seektable written/generated? at end of recording or when mythcommflag runs?
[09:17:47] Blaksmith: pumping 9.8 steady right now!
[09:18:14] xris: The_Ball: with mpeg2, I think it comes in when you record
[09:18:54] Blaksmith: 25g free so far heh
[09:19:40] ** xris should go to sleep **
[09:19:47] Blaksmith: sleep? what's that?
[09:19:48] Blaksmith: heh
[09:19:58] xris: necessary thing when recovering from illness
[09:20:06] Blaksmith: ewwww :(
[09:20:12] xris: and when the code starts to go in and out of focus by itself.
[09:20:20] Blaksmith: lol
[09:20:27] Blaksmith: been there, done that
[09:20:37] kormoc: night xris
[09:20:42] Blaksmith: g'night xris
[09:21:00] The_Ball: xris, it's veird, livetv and currently recording recordings works fine, i can seek back and forth and I can display a seektable, but stored recordings take a very long time to seek in and pressing 'e' give a "no seektable" error
[09:21:10] DVBMark: anyone by chance know what the xorg.conf setting is to make things smaller. I know that doesn't give much info on the question, but basically I found a modeline for my tv that I am trying to do and it works, looks good but everything is oversized on the tv?
[09:21:50] xris: The_Ball: couldn't hurt to run mythcommflag
[09:22:06] xris: DVBMark: dpi
[09:22:14] The_Ball: xris, i will experiment with that
[09:22:23] Blaksmith: Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[09:22:42] kormoc: Blaksmith, that's res changing, not size
[09:22:45] DVBMark: xris dpi?
[09:22:47] Blaksmith: oh
[09:23:00] kormoc: DVBMark, startx — -dpi 100
[09:23:44] DVBMark: heh k, don't laugh, don't have a keyboard on the myth system so can't do that via the command line lol, but will see about getting one tomorrow lol. anyone know if that mickeysoft wifi keyboard works in linux? the media one?
[09:23:58] kormoc: the ir one?
[09:24:04] DVBMark: is it ir?
[09:24:08] DVBMark: hmm heh
[09:24:13] kormoc: bundled with the remote?
[09:24:25] DVBMark: let me look it up, didn't know it was ir
[09:24:34] The_Ball: which kernel timer frequency is recommended for a frontend? 100/250/1000HZ
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[09:24:48] kormoc: The_Ball, 1000, we're an interactive multimedia app
[09:25:13] The_Ball: thanks
[09:25:18] DVBMark: http://www.buy.com/prod/Microsoft_Remote_Keyb . . . 0409835.html
[09:25:48] kormoc: DVBMark, that's ir, and it sorta works, but not really, and there's some patches out there that I have yet to try
[09:25:50] xris: DVBMark: nifty keyboard, PITA to work in linux... kormoc has some magic, though
[09:26:08] DVBMark: it is a nice lookin keyboard and like the mouse integration heh
[09:26:09] kormoc: I need to try that kernel patch
[09:26:10] The_Ball: but it does have learning function which is nice
[09:26:16] DVBMark: but guess if it don't work well then might not be worth it
[09:26:29] DVBMark: if I pick one up, would you be willing to help heh
[09:26:45] DVBMark: if not totally understand
[09:26:49] kormoc: currently, if you pick one up, there's not much to get working
[09:26:53] ** Blaksmith likes how if you totally stop the frontend client, re-play the same episode, it takes off where you stopped **
[09:26:56] kormoc: it won't work outside of mythtv
[09:27:19] DVBMark: well honestly only need it in myth lmao but dunno what u mean lmao
[09:27:28] DVBMark: it is ir though ehh heh
[09:27:38] kormoc: yeah, it's ir
[09:27:41] DVBMark: that means it has to be pointed at the sensor all the time lmao
[09:27:48] DVBMark: is it decent sensitivity
[09:27:49] kormoc: well, you can't use it as an generic keyboard
[09:27:55] kormoc: yeah, it's quite the nice range
[09:28:04] xris: Blaksmith: just wait for the shiny new mythweb in .21  :)
[09:28:09] DVBMark: hmm so sorry for the blunt question, IS IT WORTH IT?
[09:28:09] Blaksmith: :D
[09:28:10] DVBMark: lol
[09:28:12] kormoc: you can't use it to use for the bios, you can't use it in a tty
[09:28:20] kormoc: DVBMark, currently, no, perhaps in a little while, yes
[09:28:31] DVBMark: so basically you are using it as a remote control I take it
[09:28:33] The_Ball: DVBMark, i opted for the ex-110
[09:28:55] kormoc: DVBMark, right, it's currently mirroring my mceusb remote
[09:29:21] DVBMark: heh
[09:29:23] xris: DVBMark: put it this way. the keyboard *only* works with Windows MCE.. doesn't even work with XP
[09:29:32] DVBMark: ROFLMAO
[09:29:36] DVBMark: crap
[09:29:42] DVBMark: just looking for a small footprint lmao
[09:29:57] DVBMark: was hoping the mouse etc thing would work so browsing the web would be easier heh
[09:30:01] DVBMark: gotta understand it is for my parents lmao
[09:30:02] xris: it's an awesome keyboard, but they decided to make it work as a remote, not a standard usb keyboard/mouse
[09:30:10] DVBMark: hmm
[09:30:21] tcpsyn: I dont understand.
[09:30:23] DVBMark: well will see what best buy etc has tomorrow if it is cheap might still try it to see what happens heh
[09:30:29] xris: I sold mine.. kept the remote.
[09:30:34] DVBMark: LOL
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[09:30:47] DVBMark: so the remote works good, I assume with it's ir sensor
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[09:30:49] xris: (kormoc and I got a nice package deal from intel)
[09:30:57] xris: yeah, really powerful IR....
[09:31:06] kormoc: DVBMark, aye, the remote works wonderfully, as does the blaster
[09:31:11] Blaksmith: tcpsyn, still havin problems with the remote?
[09:31:17] DVBMark: at least that is nice to hear heh
[09:31:25] tcpsyn: yea man. I've tried what I think is everything
[09:31:31] Blaksmith: hrm
[09:32:08] kormoc: DVBMark, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MCE_Remote
[09:32:34] DVBMark: typical mickeysoft mislabeling heh it flat out says wireless, guess indeed it is but wireless in that aspect should mean rf lol
[09:33:05] xris: DVBMark: huh? the kb is wireless.
[09:33:15] xris: better reception with IR than my RF keyboard gets
[09:33:30] DVBMark: just used to logitech etc heh
[09:33:37] DVBMark: will check it out tomorrow
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[09:34:02] xris: someone at MS hardware just made a huge mistake and decided to make it proprietary usb instead of standard keyboard/mouse signals.
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[09:34:12] DVBMark: there isn't anyway to pass a command via ssh to make it act on console is there? I know I can once X is up but don't know how to do it otherwise
[09:34:16] xris: makes it useless for setting bios, etc.
[09:34:23] DVBMark: ya that bites
[09:34:33] DVBMark: cuz the kbd looks pretty cool heh
[09:34:37] xris: it is
[09:34:45] xris: supposedly a kernel driver for it eventually
[09:34:54] DVBMark: might just get one and if can't make it work good enuf for them then will keep it for myself lmao
[09:35:02] DVBMark: prob get me one anyways if it does work for them
[09:35:07] DVBMark: easier to keep our systems the same for support heh
[09:35:08] Blaksmith: same with the usb zboard... can't do @*%# in the bios
[09:35:16] DVBMark: really heh
[09:35:18] DVBMark: didn't know that
[09:35:22] DVBMark: assumed it was a standard kbd
[09:35:26] Blaksmith: nope
[09:35:49] Blaksmith: I'll take a logitech any day
[09:36:20] DVBMark: ya I pretty much stick to logitech on all mice and kbd's for pc's but just want small footprint for ease of use. I have logitech harmony remotes heh
[09:36:35] DVBMark: so do they so if the kbd is wifi would learn it into the remote as well heh
[09:37:12] Blaksmith: heh
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[09:37:31] DVBMark: so the dpi100 any way to just set that in xorg.conf?
[09:37:45] DVBMark: haven't even tried pulling up myth on it yet, it might run just fine
[09:37:51] kormoc: you can edit the startx command and stick it in there
[09:37:56] DVBMark: just figured if the x screen was fubarred anything else would be as well
[09:37:57] Blaksmith: can you set it up in the init command?
[09:38:04] DVBMark: will look
[09:38:09] DVBMark: guess can make a .xsession
[09:38:42] Blaksmith: that's what I do for my vnc'd boxes.. but I use flux for those
[09:38:53] tcpsyn: I think I got it. I set the min_repeat to 0
[09:39:02] Blaksmith: woot tcp
[09:39:34] tcpsyn: nope
[09:39:35] tcpsyn: fuck
[09:39:41] tcpsyn: this sucks.
[09:40:13] Blaksmith: :(
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[09:48:15] tcpsyn: could it have anything to do with the location of the reciever?
[09:48:16] xris: yay. I really like how this new program details page is coming along
[09:49:32] tcpsyn: it doesnt happen when I hold the key down. only when I'm trying to press it
[09:50:22] tcpsyn: 0000000000001795 00 DOWN hauppauge_pvr150
[09:50:27] tcpsyn: and the repeat is always 00
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[09:55:18] Blaksmith: :(
[09:57:13] xris: ok. really going to bed now. later.
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[09:59:23] DVBMark: well I would say goodnight but well umm err too late! :)
[10:00:11] DVBMark: thanks kormoc for the info earlier, will see what I end up with tomorrow heh, I really really want one of those keybaords lmao
[10:00:24] DVBMark: and have a Best Buy gift card burning a hole in my pocket lol
[10:00:54] DVBMark: only prob at home is, my server is in a server closet heh, guess will have to extend the ir rx on the other side lmao
[10:01:06] kormoc: heh, fair nuff
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[10:07:04] DVBMark: maybe a quick question for ya kormoc, I use DVB, in scanning channels, it takes forever heh, I notice in the card config I can adjust a signal timeout setting, if I lower that it seems to do a little better, cuz there are some spot beams that is what slows it down I am sure, is that proper to lower that, and also what is the other timeout setting for, the tuning timeout I think
[10:07:31] kormoc: aye, the card attempts to wait for that long to get a valid signal
[10:07:43] kormoc: sure it's fine to lower it if all your stations are good and strong
[10:07:49] DVBMark: usually if it is a no lock it shouldn't take the default 60k msecs heh
[10:07:49] kormoc: can't lower it too much tho
[10:07:59] DVBMark: I was lowering to 5k at home
[10:08:03] DVBMark: and seemed to be doing ok
[10:08:24] DVBMark: what is the tuning timeout for, for when you call a channel?
[10:08:29] DVBMark: if it doesn't come in quick enuf heh
[10:08:33] kormoc: aye
[10:08:52] DVBMark: basically what I am getting at is changing channels is pretty slow, I ASSUME it is due to the timeshifting building that few second buffer?
[10:09:03] kormoc: aye
[10:09:07] DVBMark: understood
[10:09:08] DVBMark: livable
[10:09:17] DVBMark: I do love timeshifting heh, I am a Tivo guy lol
[10:09:31] kormoc: heh, aye
[10:09:32] kormoc: it's sweet
[10:09:56] DVBMark: is it normal for myth to pretty much keep most of the livetv recordings for a long time?
[10:10:10] DVBMark: guessing deletes them when space gets low or idle times
[10:10:14] kormoc: livetv recordings expire after 24 hours or until the space is needed
[10:10:20] DVBMark: ahh 24 hours
[10:10:22] DVBMark: makes sense k
[10:10:23] kormoc: which ever is first
[10:10:35] DVBMark: was wondering why they are always still there but bet they would be gone heh
[10:10:58] DVBMark: also notice when I change channels, I usually always get a Preview Error, about the preview mpg being missing? is that for channel logos?
[10:11:15] kormoc: preview mpg?
[10:11:24] kormoc: channel logos are in .gif iirc
[10:11:28] DVBMark: let me see if I can get the exact error, not at home but can r/c it
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[10:13:19] juski: preview images are png too
[10:14:41] DVBMark: 2006-12–30 04:12:47.643 Preview Error: Previewer file '/mythlive/2502_20061230041246.mpg' is not valid.
[10:14:58] DVBMark: the dir is writable, otherwise the livetv stuff would be crapping out as well
[10:15:04] DVBMark: just when I change channels I get that
[10:15:23] kormoc: strange
[10:15:28] DVBMark: indeed heh
[10:15:32] DVBMark: just trying to work out the kinks lol
[10:15:39] kormoc: that's for the live preview in the watch recorded menu I thought
[10:15:53] DVBMark: would think so heh, but this is during watch tv
[10:16:29] juski: I think that must be the preview png generator moaning about the source recording
[10:16:46] juski: because myth definitely doesn't generate 2 sets of video
[10:16:47] DVBMark: ? anything to worry bout or fix?
[10:17:10] juski: maybe
[10:17:32] juski: do you get thumbnails generated for mythweb from scheduled recordings?
[10:18:04] DVBMark: like if I schedule it to record, get a thumbnail before the recording starts, or after it starts?
[10:19:00] kormoc: should be after
[10:19:20] DVBMark: ya figured as much, just making sure, pretty sure I do, but will have to schedule one real quick heh
[10:19:32] DVBMark: but almost positive when the timer goes off that I do see the thumbnail
[10:19:38] juski: that's all it's for
[10:19:52] DVBMark: but why is it doing that for livetv?
[10:20:02] juski: maybe it's a bug
[10:20:22] juski: there's a thing you can set somewhere to generate the thumbnail from so far into a recording
[10:20:58] DVBMark: just tested a scheduled recording and ya it is there
[10:21:06] juski: maybe livetv isn't checking that, or maybe it is but it's not checked right, i.e. you get the error because the thumbnail gen. can't seek that far into the recording
[10:21:08] DVBMark: k, will look for it
[10:21:20] DVBMark: thanks for the help
[10:21:39] juski: although I thought the livetv recorder would be the same code as a scheduled recording
[10:22:28] juski: though I know the recorder classes are common between live & scheduled recordings
[10:22:42] juski: the code using the classes is likely different
[10:23:01] DVBMark: will look for the option to adjust and see if that helps any
[10:23:09] DVBMark: doesn't seem to hurt anything, just don't like errors heh
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[10:25:40] DVBMark: sooo need to get to bed but just have to see how the frontend looks on this tv heh
[10:26:37] DVBMark: things sure compile faster when it is in 64bit mode heh
[10:26:42] DVBMark: parents sys is in 32bit lol
[10:27:09] DVBMark: don't want to redo it yet heh, umm err running your favorite juski lol VDR they would be upset with me if I changed them over yet heh
[10:28:15] juski: I don't have anything against VDR per se
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[10:28:25] juski: just nothing rocks as loud as mythtv does
[10:28:37] juski: that's not to say that mythtv doesn't have 'moments' ;)
[10:28:49] DVBMark: heh I agree, it is quite nice lol but gotta admit DVB support has only become strong fairly recently lol
[10:29:07] juski: ffs I must love mythtv if I'm working on a theme I'm never ever going to use!
[10:29:09] DVBMark: everything has moments heh but just depends on how hard you wanna work for it lol
[10:29:16] DVBMark: LOL
[10:29:16] kormoc: hehe
[10:29:50] kormoc: juski, I know the feeling. Somehow I volunteered to do all the php bindings for mythweb for xris :P
[10:30:15] juski: I'm a bit puzzled right now because X is going at 100DPI yet the video poster doesn't line up with the box I drew for it
[10:32:34] juski: whoah! that's weird
[10:32:50] juski: <staticsize> seems to be working the wrong way round
[10:33:14] kormoc: strange
[10:33:38] juski: if I increase the numbers I see less of the poster. wtf?!
[10:33:54] DVBMark: bah now I am at that standstill lol, trying to run setup and it extends past the tv's screen lol
[10:33:59] DVBMark: gotta find that setting lol
[10:34:24] juski: ahh I think I found a bug-ette
[10:34:38] juski: set the size to 10,10 & there it is, 10x10 size
[10:34:54] juski: so if you go over the native size, it wraps around, sort of
[10:35:03] kormoc: ahh strange
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[10:35:55] kormoc: make modules_install && mount /boot && cp ar/i3/bzImage /boot && shutdown -r now
[10:35:57] kormoc: oops
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[10:38:31] kormoc: crap, 30 mounts, forced fsck...
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[10:50:59] DVBMark: HAH biatch
[10:51:04] DVBMark: found the setting
[10:51:25] DVBMark: UseEdidDpi heh
[10:51:38] DVBMark: set that biatch to false so that it didn't put it in 203,203 or some wierd shiat
[10:53:11] DVBMark: ok I lied, that was only half the battle lol
[10:53:22] DVBMark: that makes the login manager show proper but the rest of X still comes up funky heh
[10:53:29] DVBMark: guess prob need to disable all edid stuff heh
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[11:25:16] kormoc: DVBMark, okay, I just got that keyboard working
[11:25:25] kormoc: DVBMark, http://mod-mce.sourceforge.net/
[11:25:30] kormoc: DVBMark, works perfectly fine!
[11:27:28] juski: whee I might finish blootube today!
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[11:29:13] kormoc: yay!
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[11:35:44] rsdvd: Hi All............I seem to have lost the date drop dow in MythWeb.....and I cannot work out why. Has anyone seen this before?
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[11:45:34] juski: rsdvd: lost it?
[11:46:01] rsdvd: the date drop dwon in Listings is there but there is no data in it
[11:46:07] juski: <standard IT support help> have you tried rebooting? </standard IT support help>
[11:46:19] juski: weird
[11:46:21] rsdvd: :-)
[11:46:46] rsdvd: I have been looking further – and I think there is a corruption of the program table
[11:46:54] juski: mysqlcheck ;)
[11:47:06] rsdvd: the dropdown is based on 2 select SQLs....and one seems to be returning null
[11:47:27] juski: how much program guide data do you have?
[11:47:46] rsdvd: 80K rows :-) I havea lto of channels
[11:48:16] juski: no I mean in the mythweb status page, how many days' worth of data?
[11:48:37] ** juski laughs... "There's guide data until 2034-02–06 14:32 (9900 days)." **
[11:48:42] juski: fuck yeah!
[11:49:03] rsdvd: "There's guide data until 2007-01–12 20:00 (13 days). "
[11:49:06] juski: methinks the EIT bug has reared its head again :)
[11:49:12] juski: (for me I mean)
[11:49:29] juski: lemme just try & remember how to fix mine
[11:49:34] rsdvd: yes – I had the same thing the other day...the startdate was wrong in the table
[11:49:48] juski: delete from program where date > "foobar"; I think
[11:50:25] rsdvd: I have found my problem.....there is a record in program with a null starttime....but I can;t delete it :-(
[11:50:27] juski: so rsdvd which query is failing?
[11:50:50] rsdvd: "SELECT TO_DAYS(max(starttime)) – TO_DAYS(NOW()) FROM program"
[11:50:51] juski: select * FROM program where starttime="NULL";
[11:51:00] juski: just to check ^^^
[11:53:17] juski: I just did a "delete from program where starttime > "2007-02–02:00:00";" to fix my EIT issue :)
[11:54:09] juski: rsdvd: from a terminal, you could run mysql -u mythtv -p mythconverg -e "select * from program where startttime='NULL';"
[11:54:29] juski: that should show you the rogue program table entry
[11:54:54] juski: (ies)
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[12:02:35] juski: wb :)
[12:02:42] rsdvd:
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[12:06:46] juski: that's why I use screen ;)
[12:07:00] juski: rsdvd: from a terminal, you could run mysql -u mythtv -p mythconverg -e "select * from program where startttime='NULL';"
[12:07:03] juski: that should show you the rogue program table entry
[12:07:39] rsdvd: tried it – there is no actual row with a null starttime.....it appears it is an invalid time that the to_days function is borking on
[12:09:22] juski: have you ran mysqlcheck ?
[12:09:54] rsdvd: no -so far I have jut done a 'check table program' and it is ok
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[12:12:12] rsdvd: Got it – the rogue date was infact 'F869-35–59 43:04:96' – so to_days could not convert it
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[12:20:22] juski: aha!
[12:20:37] caitlin: eureka!
[12:20:44] ** caitlin looks for juski's towel **
[12:24:21] juski: I'm wearing it
[12:24:23] juski: oi!
[12:24:49] CrocoJet: juski, do you speak portuguese ?
[12:25:06] juski: nope
[12:25:16] CrocoJet: ok
[12:25:23] juski: coming from the North of England I can hardly even speak English :-P
[12:25:44] CrocoJet: "oi" = "hello"
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[12:26:28] juski: where I'm from, oi == HEY!!!!
[12:26:56] tripppy: oi
[12:27:04] tripppy: aussie aussie aussie
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[12:28:17] tripppy: anyone use webwin?
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[12:29:11] caitlin: juski, where's 'here'?
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[12:30:05] juski: 'here' is the UK
[12:30:15] caitlin: yeh, what city?
[12:30:24] caitlin: i'm not asking for the key to your bathroom
[12:30:25] caitlin: :P
[12:30:39] juski: manchest-uuuuuuuuuuuh
[12:30:51] caitlin: local boy
[12:30:54] juski: land of uncultured monkeys
[12:30:57] caitlin: yes
[12:30:59] caitlin: tis
[12:31:03] caitlin: i want out
[12:31:16] juski: land of not enough late night taxis in the city
[12:31:22] caitlin: i live on the 219 bus route
[12:31:30] caitlin: it's "fun"
[12:31:32] juski: land of deaths in the taxi queues because of said taxi shortages
[12:31:53] juski: 219? is that the one that goes to ashton under lyne?
[12:31:56] caitlin: uhuh
[12:32:04] caitlin: east siiide
[12:32:08] caitlin: or something
[12:32:12] caitlin: i keep my head down
[12:32:15] juski: wow. small world
[12:32:25] juski: I live near oldham broadway
[12:32:42] caitlin: i'm probably squatting on your signal quality :p
[12:32:47] juski: not far from Failsworth. not bloody far enough anyway
[12:32:52] caitlin: :P
[12:32:58] caitlin: i used to live in salford
[12:33:00] caitlin: that was nicer
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[12:33:13] juski: still, could be worse, could be in Moston rather than New Moston ;)
[12:33:39] caitlin: i'm kind of between beswick and that shit hole
[12:33:46] caitlin: i can't remember what it's called
[12:33:48] juski: and at least nobody on my street has chavvy xmas lights outside
[12:34:02] juski: clayton?
[12:34:28] caitlin: maybe i'm thinking of moston, i'm not sure
[12:34:47] caitlin: i get in my car and drive down ashton old road as fast as i can with my eyes shut
[12:35:06] juski: lol it's not that bad
[12:35:30] juski: not during daylight hours anyway
[12:35:33] caitlin: it's fun really
[12:35:42] caitlin: it's just dark, cold and grey int north
[12:35:55] juski: aye
[12:35:59] caitlin: i'm going to london next year.. that should be, uh, worse?
[12:36:01] juski: it's grim up north
[12:36:01] caitlin: :p
[12:36:09] juski: london == big, lonely place
[12:36:25] juski: when I did the LW expo in October I couldn't wait to get home
[12:36:49] juski: though I think it's just the tube makes me feel like that
[12:36:58] caitlin: the tube's fun though, and i'm going to college anyway so it should have a social life build in nicely
[12:37:06] juski: aye
[12:37:15] juski: there's still some decent nightlife in London
[12:38:19] juski: btw I can heartily recommend this place : http://www.bloomsburybowling.com/
[12:38:32] caitlin: i'd miss winter hill though... i've got my telly from it for my *whole* life except when i've been on cable
[12:38:45] juski: bar / bowling alley / karaoke in a converted underground carpark :)
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[12:39:20] caitlin: they have pictures of moderatly attractive women
[12:39:22] juski: yeah but if you can get Crystal Palace from where you live, you can get HD
[12:39:23] caitlin: must be good
[12:39:43] juski: night I was there the DJ was playing all kinds of rockabilly shite – it was fantastic
[12:39:58] caitlin: gosh, you have to book a whole *lane*
[12:40:12] caitlin: oh.. no.. not if you read more of the page :p
[12:40:22] caitlin: stop typing, caitlin. just read the webpage
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[12:42:12] juski: first impression was that it's so uncool it's actually pretty cool ;)
[12:42:26] juski: unlike say, the poncy bars of Deansgate locks
[12:42:42] juski: where they're too fucking busy preening themselves to be cool :)
[12:42:54] caitlin: do you have to drive a thunderbird or somethuing american with a whaletail to go?
[12:43:07] caitlin: i've been kicked out of every bar on deansgate locks :D
[12:43:25] caitlin: except the comedy store, because you should behave in there, since it's wicked
[12:44:35] juski: haven't been to the store in yonks.
[12:44:59] juski: btw another place I recommend in london is the chuckle club @ the LSE student union on saturdays
[12:45:16] juski: cheap drinks, decent comedy :)
[12:45:27] juski: anywaz ... time to watch bill bailey
[12:50:17] tripppy: anyone use xbmcmythtvm python script?
[12:58:08] caitlin: you can't just mash the keyboard and pretend it's a script you know
[12:58:20] caitlin: i use the k;jahflkjhdfsdjfhfd script, yes
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[13:14:42] tripppy: caitlin, U familar with this script on the xbox?
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[13:26:10] caitlin: nope, sorry
[13:26:17] caitlin: i was just laughing at it's name
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[13:35:45] Ruleke: Hello folks
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[14:19:21] riddlebox: I wonder why after a few days of running my mythbackend stops working
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[14:21:30] woodwizzle: My friend gave me an old hauppauge card he wasn't using (he doesn't have cable)
[14:21:44] woodwizzle: it looks like its from 1998, how can i find out what model it is
[14:21:54] woodwizzle: and if i can get it to run under linux/mythtv
[14:22:18] woodwizzle: I have a pvr-250, but it would be awesome to use this 2nd card for watching livetv while i was recording
[14:22:46] riddlebox: thats why I bought the pvr-500 right away
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[14:24:06] woodwizzle: riddlebox, I can't afford that right now, and if i could, I'd still want this to work too so I could record 2 programs and watch something else =)
[14:24:30] woodwizzle: is there a way to find out what driver it needs?
[14:24:54] woodwizzle: one of the small chips says: Bt878khf
[14:26:12] caitlin: stick it in the machine and do lspic
[14:26:13] caitlin: ?
[14:26:17] caitlin: lspci
[14:26:21] caitlin: ]=#'[#
[14:26:37] woodwizzle: ok, that'll take a sec, brb
[14:26:40] caitlin: whoops, don't clean your keyboard with your shirt :P
[14:28:03] riddlebox: lol
[14:28:15] riddlebox: uh ohh I think the dog needs to go outside
[14:28:18] riddlebox: be back in a bit
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[14:36:24] juski: the xbmcmythtv script? I used to use it – very spiffy it is too, for watching recorded shows. not livetv – that bit sucks. but then so does _all_ livetv
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[14:39:54] juski: anyone happen to know why the titlelines part of the videotree screen doesn't like being transparent?
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[14:40:40] phlsphr: hello
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[14:41:36] juski: hellair
[14:42:35] jduggan_: hellair
[14:42:39] phlsphr: <-- noob
[14:42:43] jduggan_: thats how prince charles speaks
[14:42:51] jduggan_: air, hellair
[14:43:04] jduggan_: :o
[14:43:05] phlsphr: checkin out the site now to make sure that the info i need isn't there already before i start askin questions
[14:44:11] phlsphr: i take it users have to compile this themselves?
[14:45:31] GreyFoxx: most don't
[14:45:35] phlsphr: ahhh
[14:45:41] phlsphr: not for windows
[14:45:41] phlsphr: poop
[14:45:42] juski: binary packages are available for most distro
[14:45:59] GreyFoxx: myth only puts out the source, but most distros have packages if you are so inclined
[14:46:35] phlsphr: i'm interested in myth, but not so much as to change my operating system at this time
[14:46:43] GreyFoxx: heh
[14:46:46] phlsphr: mostly interested because of the xbmc frontend
[14:47:15] phlsphr: i do think i'll stick around, though, just in case i might learn something for later, if/when i use it
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[14:57:37] woodwizzle: It shows up as a Bt878 audio recorder and a Bt878 Video recorder
[14:57:41] woodwizzle: under lspci
[15:00:18] caitlin: google that then
[15:00:21] caitlin: lovely
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[15:04:38] fryfrog: woodwizzle: thats a very common chipset, i suspect if you are using any sort of modern distro that it is already working
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[15:06:02] woodwizzle: I'm using ubuntu edgy
[15:06:16] woodwizzle: however It appears that I can't get both cards working simulatenously
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[15:09:51] woodwizzle: actually, no the pvr-250 is still running fine
[15:10:00] woodwizzle: but the new card isn't getting anything
[15:10:08] woodwizzle: via /dev/video1
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[15:14:00] riddlebox: anyone have any idea why my mythbackend stops after a few days?
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[15:16:43] caitlin: nope, it doesn't stop after a few days :P
[15:16:50] caitlin: do the logs say anything?
[15:17:12] riddlebox: crap didnt even look
[15:18:50] juski: so hang on a minute. lemme get this right – a new person comes in here & claims they're gonna read some docs before getting started?
[15:18:54] ** juski laughs **
[15:19:17] juski: well, there's a first time for everything, that's for sure :)
[15:19:43] GreyFoxx: heh
[15:20:55] juski: you think you understand theming, then find out that some types of images have their semi-transparent parts ignored
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[15:21:45] riddlebox: caitlin, the wierd thing is the log all of a sudden says no valid card? but then I rebooted and it started working and has worked since
[15:21:48] caitlin: i looked at the pictures before i started :P
[15:22:09] caitlin: maybe the card moved or something
[15:22:15] caitlin: or maybe it's not seated
[15:22:21] caitlin: or maybe i'm guessing wildly
[15:22:29] caitlin: does the error not say anything more specific?
[15:23:12] juski: more than one tuner card, riddlebox ?
[15:23:32] riddlebox: on that day, I did upgrade my kernel, but I did not reboot until the day I figured out the backend was running
[15:23:38] riddlebox: juski, pvr-500
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[15:25:11] juski: did you rebuild ivtv?
[15:25:59] riddlebox: fedora has the ivtv drivers, but the thing is I didnt reboot it, so it shouldnt have been using the new kernel anyway
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[15:27:14] juski: well, is it ok now?
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[15:27:43] riddlebox: yeah
[15:27:52] riddlebox: I guess I will have to wait till it happens again
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[15:28:42] riddlebox: man I thought that getting myth up and running in ubuntu was easy, fedora makes it so simple
[15:28:59] caitlin: fedora smells funny and is made out of redhat
[15:29:56] juski: wait til you see dependency hell when you upgrade something
[15:29:58] juski: muhahahahaha
[15:30:01] juski: MUHAHAHAHAHAHA
[15:30:24] riddlebox: I know, I have run into it already, for some reason like one package will not upgrade
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[15:31:49] juski: weird. the reason I wasn't seeing transparent images was my vnc server
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[15:32:00] jduggan_: ive had issues with vnc
[15:32:05] karim: hi
[15:32:11] jduggan_: hiding some parts of myth
[15:32:37] juski: I've only ever seen that with opengl though
[15:33:19] karim: I made a VGA to SCART cable for my Radeon 9600 pro. I have a philips 25pt8303 TV. It's a blackline series with 100 hz flatron tube. I am having troubles to find the correct modelines. I can see a picture with good colors but it's stuffed in the top tier of the screen and not stable at all
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[15:33:38] karim: Does anyone have exeperience with this kind of cables ?
[15:34:47] woodwizzle: when I try to mplayer /dev/video1
[15:34:49] woodwizzle: i get:
[15:34:57] juski: karim: we saw someone is here yesterday having trouble getting proper interlaced video out of his Radeon
[15:35:07] woodwizzle: Win32 Load Library failed to load: avisynth.dll
[15:35:09] juski: with the same kind of cable. I think he's given up on it
[15:35:23] karim: ah
[15:35:31] juski: woodwizzle: do you have a pvr tuner card or a framegrabber?
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[15:35:42] DarkDrgn2k: is there any way to set time restrictions on when a tuner can record?
[15:35:52] karim: juski, thanks for the encouragements :D
[15:35:53] juski: DarkDrgn2k: no
[15:35:56] woodwizzle: that device is a bt878 card
[15:35:59] woodwizzle: not a pvr
[15:36:07] juski: woodwizzle: so mplayer won't work you ninny ;)
[15:36:14] woodwizzle: oh, i didn't know that
[15:36:15] juski: you need tvtime or xawtv
[15:36:23] riddlebox: woodwizzle, try cat /dev/video1 < test.mpg then hit ctrl+c then use mplayer to watch it
[15:36:29] juski: riddlebox: no
[15:36:38] riddlebox: why not?
[15:36:43] juski: framegrabber cards don't output mpeg
[15:36:51] juski: they output raw YUV data
[15:36:51] riddlebox: ohh its a framegrabber
[15:37:05] juski: quite
[15:37:10] woodwizzle: i see
[15:37:17] woodwizzle: i had been trying the cat trick as well
[15:37:23] juski: heheh
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[15:37:41] riddlebox: are you shooshing me?
[15:37:49] juski: in the new year I'll gonna post a video to show folks why they shouldn't bother with framegrabbers
[15:37:54] woodwizzle: which is better, easier, smaller, nicer? tvtime or xawtv?
[15:38:05] DarkDrgn2k: juski: out of curiosituy.. why noit
[15:38:08] karim: juski, I am trying also with powerstrip
[15:38:13] juski: BECAUSE THEY SUCK
[15:38:15] DarkDrgn2k: Anyway, any one here know about DVB and tuning?
[15:38:21] DarkDrgn2k: juski: not really.. why do you say they suck?
[15:38:27] juski: they just DO
[15:38:33] DarkDrgn2k: juski: QUALIFY it
[15:38:36] woodwizzle: i got my framegrabber for free
[15:38:43] DarkDrgn2k: juski: i got a pvr150 and a TV WONDER
[15:38:43] karim: juski, you remember the TV of the guy ?
[15:39:04] DarkDrgn2k: juski: got the tv wonder for free to.. and i like the pvr better.. but the tv wonder works!!! and works pritty well
[15:39:06] juski: okay. you want to make a dual tuner setup and the framegrabber card doesn't have onboard audio capture. so you need 2 soundcards. uh-oh
[15:39:18] DarkDrgn2k: juski: no not really..
[15:39:25] juski: you want a 3 tuner setup, so er...
[15:39:37] juski: and you only have a 2ghz cpu.. whoops
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[15:40:01] DarkDrgn2k: juski: ok so now your saying its not good for certain setups.. i agrea
[15:40:23] DarkDrgn2k: juski: but for a low budget card that can record... it does just that.......
[15:40:23] juski: karim: no I don't. the TV is pretty much immaterial though, so long as you use a proper PAL or NTSC modeline (depending on where in the world you live)
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[15:40:50] juski: my pvr150 cost me about the same as a framegrabber... not twice as much as a cheap one
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[15:41:08] riddlebox: juski, I think I paid 200 for my pvr-500
[15:41:09] DarkDrgn2k: juski: well then yuo got screwed:) you didnt know what you where buying LoL
[15:41:19] juski: anyway – framegrabber cards are a constant source of questions in here, that's really why I hate em
[15:41:25] DarkDrgn2k: juski: i paid 100 can for my pvr 150 an i love it.. especialy with my ir blaster
[15:41:40] DarkDrgn2k: juski: actualy hardware are more of a pain...
[15:42:00] DarkDrgn2k: juski: cause of drivers.. unless oyu have a PVR that is!
[15:42:08] juski: I'm not gonna sit here & argue. it's my opinion. I'm entitled to it & don't have to qualify it
[15:42:15] riddlebox: lol
[15:42:21] DarkDrgn2k: juski: and if some idiot gotes out and buys a ATI AIW .. well....
[15:42:28] DarkDrgn2k: juski: what can you di with an idiot :-P
[15:42:35] juski: there's always kickban
[15:42:41] DarkDrgn2k: juski: besides EVERY one is entitled to MY own opinion! LmAo
[15:43:07] juski: so where were we?
[15:43:23] juski: karim: powerstrip is a good way to go about it :)
[15:43:23] DarkDrgn2k: oh yes.. Any one know about DVB Tuning?
[15:43:28] GreyFoxx: Framegrabbers generally have low quality tuners, produce a poorer image, take up massively more cpu to encode, you have to have a seperate input on asound card for each (most of them anyway) so forget multiple tuners in asystem, and cause a lot more PCI bus BW to be chewed
[15:43:34] juski: DarkDrgn2k: unfortunately that'd be me
[15:43:48] ** DarkDrgn2k sighs **
[15:43:53] ** juski laughs **
[15:44:03] DarkDrgn2k: well maybe i agrovated you enough for one day and shouldnt try it anymore :-P
[15:44:06] GreyFoxx: For not much more money you can get 0% cpu, lower pci bus usage, embedded audio, etc etc
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[15:44:27] juski: I'm just glad I tried a dvb tuner the 1st time I tried myth.. otherwise I might've chucked it out on account of the quality sucking so badly
[15:44:31] GreyFoxx: framegrabbers are find for watching TV on a desktop, not for recording
[15:44:35] juski: aaanyway DarkDrgn2k whaddya wanna know?
[15:44:36] GreyFoxx: s/find/fine
[15:44:51] DarkDrgn2k: juski: cant seem to tune the dam thing...
[15:45:10] DarkDrgn2k: juski: what kinda dvb do you use
[15:45:18] juski: dvb-s, dvb-t, dvb-c .. what kind is it?
[15:45:27] DarkDrgn2k: dvb-s budget card
[15:45:36] DarkDrgn2k: CX88 chipset.
[15:45:45] juski: first thing you do is try to find an initial tuning file for your satellite
[15:45:56] DarkDrgn2k: juski: i CANT get a lock.. no mater what i tryh
[15:46:00] juski: then you run scan & feed it that file. you output the scan to a channels.conf file
[15:46:11] DarkDrgn2k: juski: few days ago i got a lock. but its like HIT or miss.. now i cant get a lock at all
[15:46:13] juski: then you run szap "channelname" -r
[15:46:23] DarkDrgn2k: juski: yeh cant get a lock...
[15:46:23] juski: maybe your dish is off
[15:46:31] DarkDrgn2k: juski: i got other devices working of it
[15:46:40] juski: maybe it's still off a tad
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[15:46:54] juski: pci tuners are notorious for not being as sensitive as standalone ones
[15:47:16] juski: maybe your PC's PSU is straining, powering the LNB
[15:47:53] DarkDrgn2k: status 03 | signal 0600 | snr ffdc | ber 00000000 | unc 00000000 |
[15:48:15] DarkDrgn2k: funny thing is.. if i use winblows.. it works
[15:48:15] juski: look at the signal level
[15:48:24] juski: so it's a driver issue then maybe
[15:48:35] DarkDrgn2k: juski: the boys at linuxtv told me it was not
[15:48:47] juski: maybe it's the PSU's 12V line
[15:49:09] DarkDrgn2k: thing is i have LBN----3X4------DVB
[15:49:17] juski: huh?
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[15:49:44] DarkDrgn2k: Dule LBN---- 3X4 Switch (2 inputs + CATV 4 outputs...) ----- Linux Box
[15:49:57] DarkDrgn2k: so i got 4 devices hooked up to that lnb
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[15:50:09] juski: so where does the LNB power come from?
[15:50:22] juski: maybe the switch isn't switching right
[15:50:25] DarkDrgn2k: all 4 devices?
[15:50:30] DarkDrgn2k: other 3 devices work fine
[15:50:45] juski: maybe the linux box isn't switching the switch right
[15:50:46] caitlin: try going stright, with out the 3*4
[15:51:07] DarkDrgn2k: hmm.. maybe..... dam its codl out there :-S
[15:51:19] juski: the switch is outside?
[15:51:35] DarkDrgn2k: juski: i was told that for best quality.. you put all the swiches as close the the dish as you can
[15:51:39] DarkDrgn2k: juski: that and its a mess out there...
[15:51:42] ** GreyFoxx decides it's time to breask everything on his machine **
[15:52:10] ** GreyFoxx updates his kernel, ivtv, nvidia drivers, his custom ati_remote driver and myth all at the same time **
[15:52:18] GreyFoxx: Wonder how much will be broken :)
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[15:52:28] juski: in my opinion, DarkDrgn2k it can't be anything but the switch & how linux is controlling it (or not)
[15:52:47] DarkDrgn2k: juski: ok tell its time to test it :-S
[15:52:56] DarkDrgn2k: thanx for the opinion
[15:53:02] juski: dunno about Disecq stuff sorry
[15:53:10] DarkDrgn2k: juski: i bipassed disecq
[15:53:17] juski: how did you do that?
[15:54:09] juski: not by physically bypassing it, that's for sure ;)
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[15:55:15] DarkDrgn2k: yes
[15:55:16] DarkDrgn2k: lol
[15:55:24] DarkDrgn2k: i plug the PCI into the 3x4 switch directly
[15:55:35] DarkDrgn2k: instead of a diseq
[15:56:45] juski: then how does this switch thing work if not by commands sent to it?
[15:57:48] juski: or is it something that auto-senses the polarity (H or V) & routes the corresponding LNB ?
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[16:00:01] GreyFoxx: vim drivers/usb/input/ati_remote.c
[16:00:03] GreyFoxx: dammit
[16:00:33] DarkDrgn2k: 3x4 takes 2 inputes
[16:00:39] DarkDrgn2k: a 12V and an 18V
[16:00:46] DarkDrgn2k: (and a CATV but thats irrelivent)
[16:01:03] juski: and?
[16:01:12] woodwizzle: i can't get tvtime to play from my framegrabber or my PVR
[16:01:23] DarkDrgn2k: the 4 outputs work just like the LBN swichinb etween 12 ans 18V as needed
[16:01:24] juski: woodwizzle: tvtime doesn't work with pvr cards
[16:01:49] juski: DarkDrgn2k: but something has to tell it to do that, surely
[16:01:54] woodwizzle: juski, ok, well i can't get it to play from the framegrabber either
[16:02:01] DarkDrgn2k: juski how does the PCI card tell the LBN what voltage to use?
[16:02:21] juski: woodwizzle: tvtime -d /dev/video1 if your framegrabber is on that node
[16:02:50] juski: DarkDrgn2k: AFAIK it uses tones superimposed on the coaxial cable
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[16:03:04] DarkDrgn2k: juski: well thats how the swich knows too
[16:03:16] DarkDrgn2k: it emulats the LBN
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[16:03:35] juski: well, maybe whatever should tell the switch to switch isn't happening in linux
[16:04:10] juski: when you fix this btw, you'll have to be the channel's resident satellite expert
[16:04:31] juski: don't think anyone we've ever had here has had such a complex setup
[16:04:47] DarkDrgn2k: juski: lol dont mid u guys heled enough :)
[16:04:55] DarkDrgn2k: its a hoby
[16:04:57] DarkDrgn2k: i dont even WATCH tv
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[16:05:11] juski: I wouldn't mind finding more out about satellite tv.. I might end up using it one day
[16:05:15] DarkDrgn2k: so far i have a satalite box connected to a PVR150 via an IR blaster and a component input
[16:05:22] DarkDrgn2k: whre u located
[16:05:25] juski: composite, not component
[16:05:26] DarkDrgn2k: NA?
[16:05:26] juski: UK
[16:05:32] DarkDrgn2k: juski: yes component
[16:05:38] DarkDrgn2k: juski: ooo you should have some nice FTA out there
[16:05:47] juski: pvr150 doesn't have component input
[16:05:53] DarkDrgn2k: yes sory composite
[16:05:58] DarkDrgn2k: (little tiered/sick today)
[16:06:00] juski: I'll be after FTA HDTV
[16:06:10] DarkDrgn2k: juski: the FTA receivers are happenming
[16:06:16] DarkDrgn2k: juski: NA is gonna go crazy for them
[16:06:18] juski: they can shove the FTA SD up their backsides.. I've seen the channel list
[16:06:39] juski: shopping, quiz, religious...
[16:06:45] GreyFoxx: coool, nothing blew up
[16:06:53] juski: GreyFoxx: heheh. nice
[16:07:17] GreyFoxx: looks like the only problem is my remote buttons are now registering twice
[16:07:19] DarkDrgn2k: OMG!!!
[16:07:38] GreyFoxx: but since I hadn't tested it I'm not suprised
[16:07:45] DarkDrgn2k: dvbscan is actually working
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[16:08:06] juski: DarkDrgn2k: maybe your coaxial cable needs a new connector on the end :)
[16:08:38] juski: well I say 'connector'.. F connectors are just a metal shroud that sticks onto the end of the cable shield
[16:08:40] DarkDrgn2k: yo mean my shotty home made twist ons arent good enough :)
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[16:08:46] DarkDrgn2k: maybe its the amp i used to bridge the to cables
[16:08:48] juski: twist-on? pfft
[16:09:16] GreyFoxx: yay, everything is happy. now I can use my new drives
[16:09:23] juski: you're an enthusiast – I'd have thought you'd have used crimps ;)
[16:09:54] DarkDrgn2k: juski: seriosuly.. naa never bougfht them.. gatta get them from my boddy who doe cablimg
[16:10:00] DarkDrgn2k: juski: LoL here ill send ypoui a pic of my setup
[16:10:42] juski: oof. status-ui needs some attention
[16:10:44] woodwizzle: is there anything else i can use to test a framegrabber card besides tvtime and xawtv?
[16:10:50] woodwizzle: cause i can't get those running
[16:11:06] DarkDrgn2k: [008f]:12268:h:0:20000:0:0:143
[16:11:09] DarkDrgn2k: dam no channel names :-S
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[16:11:25] juski: woodwizzle: what device is your framegrabber card?
[16:11:32] caitlin: another punter who takes *shit* out if a signal chain and it starts working.... gah KISS
[16:11:32] juski: as in /dev/video$ ?
[16:11:37] woodwizzle: yeah
[16:11:54] juski: woodwizzle: yeah is not an answer to that question
[16:12:20] woodwizzle: yeah, as in /dev/video$
[16:12:29] juski: so which is it?
[16:12:36] juski: /dev/video0 or /dev/video1 ?
[16:13:09] woodwizzle: video1
[16:13:37] juski: you'll need to tell tvtime to address /dev/video1 then
[16:13:43] woodwizzle: i tried that
[16:14:21] juski: and ?
[16:14:30] juski: maybe -d wasn't what you needed. I'm checking
[16:14:34] DarkDrgn2k: ok see this is where things get wierd
[16:14:36] DarkDrgn2k: i cant KEEP a lock
[16:14:41] DarkDrgn2k: status 1f | signal f700 | snr ffdc | ber 00000000 | unc 00000000 | FE_HAS_LOCK
[16:14:41] DarkDrgn2k: status 1f | signal f700 | snr ffdc | ber 00000000 | unc 00000000 | FE_HAS_LOCK
[16:14:41] DarkDrgn2k: status 01 | signal f700 | snr ffdc | ber 00000000 | unc 00000000 |
[16:14:41] DarkDrgn2k: status 1f | signal f700 | snr ffdc | ber 00000000 | unc 00000000 | FE_HAS_LOCK
[16:14:41] DarkDrgn2k: status 1d | signal f700 | snr ffdc | ber 00000000 | unc 00000000 | FE_HAS_LOCK
[16:14:42] DarkDrgn2k: status 01 | signal f700 | snr ffdc | ber 00000000 | unc 00000000 |
[16:14:56] GreyFoxx: Wow, just swapping kernels made a big speed improvement.... I wasn't unhappy before, but this is crazy
[16:15:10] juski: DarkDrgn2k: maybe your cable is shitty
[16:15:10] woodwizzle: Oh, i got it working!
[16:15:13] woodwizzle: no sound though
[16:15:33] woodwizzle: is this one of those cards where i have to pass the soundthru with a cable :(
[16:15:34] juski: no sound? you need the special tv tuner to soundcard magical cable
[16:15:56] GreyFoxx: woodwizzle: Almost every framegrabber is like that
[16:16:06] GreyFoxx: it's rare to find one that isn't
[16:16:09] juski: yup
[16:16:19] GreyFoxx: and then you use the btaudio driver if the app supports it
[16:16:24] juski: even rarer to find one that isn't, and has drivers which work in linux
[16:16:33] GreyFoxx: yeah
[16:16:46] juski: and wrestle with alsa... booyeah
[16:16:57] GreyFoxx: audio pass through is old n busted, embedded audio is the new hotness
[16:17:08] fryfrog: GreyFoxx: which kernel did you move from -> to?
[16:17:10] fryfrog: what distro?
[16:17:20] juski: well I say 'wrestle' .. it's more of a torture really
[16:17:33] woodwizzle: is it doable?
[16:17:46] juski: woodwizzle: you need a passthru cable
[16:17:54] GreyFoxx: fryfrog: Slackware, 2.6.12.5/Ivtv 0.20rcj/nvidia 7676 -> 2.6.19.1/Ivtv SVN 0.9.x/Nvidia 9631
[16:18:08] juski: plug the cable from the tuner card into the line in or the cd in on your soundcard
[16:18:29] GreyFoxx: I had to tweak the repeat filter for my remote, but so far no other problems
[16:18:31] juski: THIS is why I fucking HATE framegrabbers
[16:18:32] fryfrog: GreyFoxx: ah, lot of changes at the same time :) what is "faster"? the whole box or?
[16:19:31] GreyFoxx: fryfrog: Everything feels "snappier" including diskio, and the most noticable is the loading of X+myth
[16:19:47] GreyFoxx: heck even FFWD/RWD jumps are faster which wuld be disk related
[16:19:49] woodwizzle: juski, I don't even think i have one of those. its like a headphone jack on both ends right?
[16:20:46] GreyFoxx: fryfrog: I got a couple drives for Xmas and the sata support in 2.6.12.5 frankly sucked, so I updated to use the new drives , which required an ivtv and nvidia update too
[16:20:51] GreyFoxx: so I just did everything at once
[16:21:03] juski: woodwizzle: yeah or an internal cdrom audio cable
[16:21:30] woodwizzle: I'm using onboard sound, so I don't even know if I have a place to plug the cdrom audio cable
[16:21:37] woodwizzle: i'll look though.
[16:21:41] DarkDrgn2k: for those of u curiouse about my mess of wireing -> http://download.yousendit.com/0A2410C26BF8D2D6
[16:21:46] DarkDrgn2k: thast the picture lol
[16:21:58] DarkDrgn2k: ok got anothger problem
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[16:22:19] fryfrog: GreyFoxx: nice that its faster :)
[16:22:41] DarkDrgn2k: i need to update the newest drivers from liunxtv.org.. but those drivers compuile some IVTV modules and they dont like the drivers from ivtv offical branch..
[16:22:44] fryfrog: now, i am finding that gentoo has far more in portage than ubuntu has in their repos :(
[16:22:48] cornel1 is now known as cornell
[16:22:49] DarkDrgn2k: and i get module conflicts depending which one i use.. any ideas
[16:23:01] cornell: Morning all.... I have a question, well, a few.... I've recorded many episodes of a series ("Heroes") I wish to play (list, whatever) in order. Can I, in Myth, find their original order (they were not recorded in order)? Can I show the episode number in the title? Any ideas, help?
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[16:24:26] fryfrog: cornell: i believe you can sort the list by date *recorded* or original airdate
[16:24:33] fryfrog: cornell: which may or may not be accurate
[16:24:45] fryfrog: you *could* just look up the episode list somewhere... there have only been like 11 eps
[16:25:05] DarkDrgn2k: great series too
[16:25:41] DarkDrgn2k: fryfrog: lol did u see the pic
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[16:26:24] cornell: I've found the list on the net. But I don't want to keep track of that list, and then have to refer to it at some future time, when I want to watch. Recorded date is not accurate, as I did delete a few... which were re-recorded. Original air date would be could, although episode number would be better. How do I show original airdate in listings?
[16:26:29] fryfrog: DarkDrgn2k: what pic?
[16:26:49] DarkDrgn2k: http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action= . . . 10C26BF8D2D6
[16:26:53] fryfrog: cornell: i'm not sure, i remember being able to pick the sort order somewhere...
[16:26:55] DarkDrgn2k: my cableing job
[16:27:00] juski: oh ffs paintshop just crashed
[16:27:05] juski: nm
[16:27:47] DarkDrgn2k: ?
[16:27:49] cornell: Got a few video sources, DarkDrgn2k?  :-)
[16:27:57] DarkDrgn2k: cornell: 4 lnbs
[16:28:11] caitlin: that looks *horrid*
[16:28:11] cornell: "lnbs" ?
[16:28:23] fryfrog: jesus, what is that?
[16:28:24] fryfrog: ahhh
[16:28:25] caitlin: the bit that looks into your sattelite disk
[16:28:33] caitlin: i think
[16:28:56] fryfrog: what is that supplying, an entire dorm?
[16:29:04] DarkDrgn2k: LNBF
[16:29:09] DarkDrgn2k: http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action= . . . F6F43052DA45
[16:29:43] fryfrog: holey horse fuck :)
[16:29:56] cornell: ok... "LNBF" ?
[16:30:32] caitlin: is all that crap outdoor rated?
[16:30:50] DarkDrgn2k: the dish is :)
[16:30:56] DarkDrgn2k: LNB->Low-noise block
[16:31:07] juski: where's all the self-amalgamating tape or IP-rated boxes?
[16:31:31] DarkDrgn2k: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-noise_block_converter
[16:32:02] DarkDrgn2k: probably back at the store
[16:32:14] juski: LNB — downconverts high frequency signals to a lower range by mixing a local oscillator with incoming signals
[16:32:21] cornell: I found in setup... playback, two things.... "List Newest Recording First" (as opposed to oldest), and "Sort Episodes:" (Record date, Original Air date, Program ID). Are these contradictory, or is the list option like a Ascending/Descending choice?
[16:32:41] juski: cornell: try em out
[16:32:55] DarkDrgn2k: from 12ghz to like 1500mhgz or somethign like that
[16:33:13] DarkDrgn2k: lnbs are what sit at the end of the dish to grab the singal
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[16:33:45] DarkDrgn2k: An LNB sits on the end of an arm and faces the parabolic reflector ("dish") which focusses the signals from a satellite 24,000 miles away into the "feed horn" of the LNB
[16:34:18] cornell: Ah... thanks
[16:35:06] DarkDrgn2k: lol a month ago the wind ripped the dish out of my wall.. had to re-drioll and re-inforce
[16:35:57] DarkDrgn2k: and like i said.. i never watch tv LOL
[16:36:11] DarkDrgn2k: i was actualy thinking of getting into the programming sceane.. but my C is rusty at best
[16:37:39] ** DarkDrgn2k sighs.. dam compilign takes so long **
[16:37:40] juski: well, C will do you no good if you want to develop mythtv. that's all about c++ innit?
[16:37:57] DarkDrgn2k: lol i start of with c but end up all object oriented anyway
[16:38:00] DarkDrgn2k: (dam microsoft)
[16:38:15] juski: objects are good
[16:38:28] juski: used wisely
[16:38:37] DarkDrgn2k: yes
[16:38:40] DarkDrgn2k: like this drinking glass...
[16:38:44] DarkDrgn2k: or the sandwicha
[16:38:49] DarkDrgn2k: all verry tasty objects!
[16:38:52] juski: we have a guy at work who makes VB apps. they're all nasty
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[16:39:04] DarkDrgn2k: vb.net is cleaner.. but i dislike it
[16:39:07] DarkDrgn2k: i miss the goold old C days
[16:39:08] juski: he likes black & red
[16:39:11] DarkDrgn2k: tracing memory....
[16:39:29] DarkDrgn2k: fdining that dam array that you did 1-coutn instread of 0-count-1
[16:39:38] juski: I used to program, then discovered alcohol, drugs & women
[16:39:51] juski: not in that order but you get the idea
[16:39:56] DarkDrgn2k: I'd change the world.. but god didnt gimme the source code
[16:40:07] DarkDrgn2k: i find programming is easier with alcohol..
[16:40:19] juski: so you're not about to volunteer giving mythmusic a good rub-down?
[16:40:38] DarkDrgn2k: LOL i havent touched X since my colalge class on MOFFIT
[16:40:42] juski: the stuff I have plans to mock-up for it would benefit the whole myth UI actually
[16:40:48] DarkDrgn2k: if i rub it down.. you might have nothign left :-P
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[16:41:21] DarkDrgn2k: i shoudl learn QT
[16:42:37] DarkDrgn2k: you guys want a tutorial on how to compile myth from scatch on a new fedora box LOL
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[16:43:09] juski: get the source, configure, make, make install. ta-da
[16:43:26] DarkDrgn2k: you wish :-P
[16:43:30] nomad: hi – has anyone here got mythtv all working with a nova-t 500 dual tuner card?
[16:43:39] DarkDrgn2k: yum install mysql mysql-server qt qt-devel qt-MySQL libjpeg libjpeg-devel gcc-c++ freetype-devel lame-devel mysql-devel subversion mesa-libGLU-devel libXv-devel libXxf86vm-devel libXmu-devel libXvMC-devel fftw2 fftw2-devel libid3tag libid3tag-devel libmad-devel flac-devel libtiff-devel libcdaudio-devel SDL-devel cdparanoia-devel libexif-devel fftw3 fftw3-devel libvorbis-devel
[16:43:55] nomad: I've got the tuners working but having no luck getting the IR to work
[16:44:06] DarkDrgn2k: lol then my favourites:
[16:44:06] DarkDrgn2k: export XORG_PREFIX="/usr"
[16:44:06] DarkDrgn2k: export XORG_CONFIG="--prefix=$XORG_PREFIX --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var"
[16:44:06] DarkDrgn2k: ./configure $XORG_CONFIG --with-xorg-module-dir=$XORG_PREFIX/lib/X11/modules
[16:44:20] DarkDrgn2k: oops thats fgor gatos
[16:44:24] DarkDrgn2k: ln -s /usr/lib/qt3 /usr/lib/qt-3.x
[16:44:24] DarkDrgn2k: ln /usr/lib/qt-3.3/bin/qmake /usr/bin/qmake
[16:44:24] DarkDrgn2k: export QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt-3.3/
[16:44:30] DarkDrgn2k: :-D
[16:45:33] juski: messy
[16:45:43] DarkDrgn2k: verry.. tooke me a whole day on a clean fedora intall
[16:46:41] cornell: Thanks all
[16:47:55] nomad: anybody at all with working IR using a nova-t 500?
[16:48:03] nomad: I've been fighting with my ubuntu box all day
[16:48:20] DarkDrgn2k: ir blater or reciever
[16:48:38] nomad: just the receiver
[16:48:50] nomad: the one that picks up the signals from the remote you get with the card
[16:49:08] nomad: it's weird because the nova-t 500 does everything via usb
[16:49:23] cornell: One other question, on another subject... When I watch live TV, and then go look at recorded shows, the show I watched is listed, even if I only watched a minute. Can I stop it from doing that? And still be able to turn on recording of something I'm watching, if I choose?
[16:49:36] nomad: after mucking about with the drivers etc yetserday I got the tuners detecting and working fine
[16:49:48] nomad: had to get the firmwares etc and do all that and it works fine
[16:50:03] nomad: but I can't see it detecting anything to do with the IR receiver
[16:50:51] nomad: I guess I just need to know if anyone else has gotten it working
[16:50:57] DarkDrgn2k: nomad: do u have lirc installed?
[16:51:14] jduggan_: cornell: mythtv always records
[16:51:22] nomad: yep I installed lirc but not quite sure what to do with it
[16:51:32] nomad: because I can;t see the OS detecting the IR
[16:51:45] DarkDrgn2k: check to see if you have /dev/lirc or /dev/lirc0
[16:51:48] nomad: if the OS isn;t seeing it I assume lirc won;t be able to use it
[16:51:57] nomad: nope no /dev/lirc*
[16:52:53] DarkDrgn2k: in console type this
[16:52:53] DarkDrgn2k: cd /dev/event
[16:52:56] DarkDrgn2k: cat input3
[16:53:19] DarkDrgn2k: baa
[16:53:19] DarkDrgn2k: http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/board/showthread.php?t=7085
[16:53:41] nomad: yeah tried that
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[16:53:43] DarkDrgn2k: google is your friend: http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=nova- . . . rc&meta=
[16:53:44] DarkDrgn2k: LOL
[16:53:53] DarkDrgn2k: do you have the devices?
[16:53:54] nomad: one sec
[16:54:29] cornell: jduggan_: So, I just delete them manually? Or let them expire?
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[16:56:19] nomad: yeah I've already seen those pages... for me, input 3 is some default HID related to my keyboard
[16:56:31] nomad: seems to be nothign to do with the IR receiver
[16:56:49] nomad: if I cat input3 I get a bunch of gibberish from my keyboard
[16:56:50] DarkDrgn2k: what about othe rinpuits
[16:56:55] nomad: tried all of em
[16:56:57] jduggan_: cornell: you can delete them if you want, but they will expire
[16:57:02] nomad: none respond to the IR
[16:57:18] nomad: in /var/log/messages there's no reference to it detecting an IR device
[16:57:49] cornell: Thanks jduggan_
[16:58:33] DarkDrgn2k: almost sound slike its not an ir bug a hid
[16:59:30] DarkDrgn2k: ba i donno what im saying
[16:59:35] DarkDrgn2k: nomad: check your dmesg
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[17:00:20] nomad: what shoudl I be checkign dmesg for?
[17:00:28] DarkDrgn2k: ir
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[17:01:28] nomad: yeah there's no mention of anythign ir-related in /var/log/messages or ir
[17:01:33] nomad: or dmesg I mean
[17:01:38] nomad: that's what worries me
[17:01:41] DarkDrgn2k: lsusb
[17:01:43] DarkDrgn2k: see if its there
[17:01:52] nomad: there's just one entry for "Hauppage"
[17:02:03] nomad: but I don't know if that's the tuners
[17:02:20] DarkDrgn2k: ok.. how can you configure a myth box as a slave that used to be a server?
[17:02:21] woodwizzle: how can I find the mixer device for my bttv card?
[17:02:42] DarkDrgn2k: woodwizzle: your bttv card doesnt have a mixer LoL
[17:02:47] DarkDrgn2k: woodwizzle: your soundscard does
[17:02:58] woodwizzle: ok, i said that wrong
[17:03:24] woodwizzle: what i mean to say is the device for where the bttv sound should be coming from
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[17:03:43] DarkDrgn2k: alsamixer
[17:03:49] DarkDrgn2k: umm in gnome they have a gnome mixer..
[17:03:51] DarkDrgn2k: lots of places :)
[17:04:13] DarkDrgn2k: ok.. how can you configure a myth box as a slave that used to be a server?
[17:04:26] nomad: a slave?
[17:04:30] nomad: you mean a frontend?
[17:04:35] DarkDrgn2k: umm...
[17:04:36] DarkDrgn2k: yes and no
[17:04:45] DarkDrgn2k: a front end. bu this front end has tuners.. so its a slave as well
[17:05:02] DarkDrgn2k: i removed mysqw but it wants to connect to its local myswql
[17:05:41] nomad: sorry, haven't done anything like that before
[17:06:11] DarkDrgn2k: nomad: i just need mythfrontend to come up woith the initial confg screen i can take it from there
[17:06:30] woodwizzle: i've got gnome-alsamixer, but None of the sliders seem to help produce any noise from the bttv card
[17:06:43] DarkDrgn2k: woodwizzle: ok you doing the MYTH or just testing
[17:06:45] woodwizzle: which is plugged into the "aux" port on the motherboard with a cd-audio cable
[17:06:53] woodwizzle: Right now I'm just testing
[17:06:57] DarkDrgn2k: what u sing
[17:07:01] DarkDrgn2k: xawtv or somethign
[17:07:05] woodwizzle: tvtime
[17:07:27] woodwizzle: i have xawtv as well though, havn't has as much luck with it
[17:07:43] DarkDrgn2k: ok well... you got the internal loop right
[17:07:52] DarkDrgn2k: so the CD-AUDIO slider should produce your sund
[17:08:42] DarkDrgn2k: have you speakers pluged in :)
[17:09:24] woodwizzle: yeah sound works from my mp3s, ivtv card etc.
[17:09:42] woodwizzle: the cd-audio (nor the AUX slider) don't produce sound for me though
[17:09:53] DarkDrgn2k: are they muted?
[17:10:05] woodwizzle: no, (come on gimme more credit than that =)
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[17:10:19] woodwizzle: the bt878 card shows up as an audio device as well, just for output I suppose, its cranked up too
[17:10:21] DarkDrgn2k: jsut checking
[17:10:42] ** DarkDrgn2k puzzled **
[17:10:46] DarkDrgn2k: i should put my bt card back in
[17:13:18] DarkDrgn2k: ok whre i can ifnd the newest ivtv pvr150 firmware
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[17:21:00] woodwizzle: how do i swtich between tuner in mythtv
[17:21:04] woodwizzle: not mythtv
[17:21:11] woodwizzle: not mythtv-setup i mean
[17:21:18] woodwizzle: but while actually watching tv
[17:21:21] juski: Y
[17:21:24] juski: it's in the FM
[17:24:24] juski: and FYI to get audio in mythtv from the bttv tuner card you need to adjust the RECORDING section of alsamixer to record the aux input or whatever input you have the tv tuner audio plugged into
[17:24:33] juski: you know.. like it says to IN THE MANUAL
[17:25:46] juski: I shouldn't keep going on about the docs – I mean it's hardly like any bugger ever reads them, or is ever likely to. why do we even bother?
[17:26:59] Dagmar: Depends on what you're botehring with
[17:27:05] Dagmar: I don't bother telling people things that are in the docs
[17:27:15] juski: lol
[17:27:30] Dagmar: It's right there in the channel topic ~read the docs before asking questions~
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[17:28:57] juski: if you use irssi, that lot passes right by you in another window
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[17:30:12] DarkDrgn2k: juski: do oyu know how to reset the mythtv configs?
[17:31:21] Blaksmith: zap2it doesn't have ppv listings?
[17:31:36] juski: DarkDrgn2k: rm -rf /
[17:32:01] DarkDrgn2k: http://www.mythppv.com/
[17:32:06] DarkDrgn2k: juski ok done
[17:32:18] juski: basically – you don't reset them. if you dunno what you're doing when you screw around with settings, all you're left with is restoring a backup of the database
[17:32:19] DarkDrgn2k: but arg i cant ls!
[17:32:32] DarkDrgn2k: juski: i dont want a db that sthe thing
[17:32:37] DarkDrgn2k: i wanan scrub this and make it a slave
[17:32:52] juski: a slave backend?
[17:32:54] juski: that's easy
[17:32:55] DarkDrgn2k: ya
[17:32:59] DarkDrgn2k: how
[17:33:06] juski: just stop mythbackend on both boxes
[17:33:11] DarkDrgn2k: k
[17:33:31] juski: then on the backend which will be the slave, run mythtv-setup & change the master backend IP address & the mysql server address
[17:33:37] juski: then restart both backends
[17:34:00] DarkDrgn2k: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (2)
[17:34:03] Ryushin: I'm trying to figure what is causing my HD stuttering on my myth frontend that it upstairs and over wireless. I've gotten the wireless straightened out and I sustain 4 MB/s in transfer rate. So that's done. This is a new front end. It has a dual core X2 running at 2.0 ghz. 1 GB of RAM. If I increase the ring buffer to something like 256 MB, will that help?
[17:34:14] juski: or if you want to use the slave backend to record, set up channels on it
[17:34:19] DarkDrgn2k: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (2)
[17:34:45] juski: DarkDrgn2k: you've probably not got mysql to work on the backend's external IP address
[17:35:06] DarkDrgn2k: juski: i shut down teh mysql server on the slave wanna be and now i cant do anythign
[17:35:16] DarkDrgn2k: juski: i never changed the sql stuff yet
[17:35:16] juski: well duh
[17:35:21] DarkDrgn2k: juski: well HOW DO I CHANGE IT
[17:35:23] DarkDrgn2k: lol
[17:35:37] juski: oh you'll prolly need to change mysql.txt too
[17:35:41] DarkDrgn2k: i just saw that
[17:35:48] Blaksmith: cool.. I'll have to fiddle with it later. I gotta get outta here for the day
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[17:36:15] DarkDrgn2k: THERE we go!
[17:36:15] Ryushin: Okay, according to the log, I'm getting a prebuffer pause.
[17:36:21] ** DarkDrgn2k bows down to juski **
[17:36:27] juski: Ryushin: Enotenoughwirelessbandwidth, prolly
[17:37:12] juski: try it with an old-fashioned rj45 patch lead
[17:37:17] juski: prove that works
[17:38:05] Ryushin: Well, I'm only running 16.9 mb. I can do a scp copy of the same file and get 40 mb out of it.
[17:38:29] Ryushin: juski: Yea, you're right. Time to go get a long patch cord.
[17:38:43] Ryushin: Is there a prebuffer setting that I can increase?
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[17:39:18] DarkDrgn2k: in the old myth oyu cna reduce the size of the live capture
[17:39:21] defaultro: GreyFoxx, remember i was asking about sending single video source to 2 different monitors but they're cutted vertically? VLC folks told me to use wall filters and its possible
[17:39:22] DarkDrgn2k: not sure how to do it now
[17:39:23] juski: the ringbuffer size will only change the amount bufferred on the backend
[17:39:26] DarkDrgn2k: but that helped for wifi
[17:39:43] juski: you can't change the size of DVB / ATSC / QAM streams
[17:39:48] juski: not while recording em anyway
[17:39:55] DarkDrgn2k: o
[17:39:58] juski: nor firewire
[17:40:03] DarkDrgn2k: but pvrs?
[17:40:17] juski: yeh you could turn down the bitrate
[17:40:24] juski: but not with HDTV or DVB
[17:40:34] juski: cos only the broadcaster controls that
[17:50:57] DarkDrgn2k: ok
[17:51:02] DarkDrgn2k: my mythbackend still tries to connect localcy
[17:51:09] DarkDrgn2k: database error was:
[17:51:09] DarkDrgn2k: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (2)
[17:51:28] woodwizzle: Im pretty sure my mixer setting are correct.
[17:51:44] juski: DarkDrgn2k: which one?
[17:51:55] woodwizzle: In mythtvsetup when I'm configuring the framegrabber card, there is a place for an audio device
[17:51:59] DarkDrgn2k: slave but i thin i fixed it.. 1 sec
[17:52:03] DarkDrgn2k: ERROR: no valid capture cards are defined in the database.
[17:52:03] DarkDrgn2k: Perhaps you should read the installation instructions?
[17:52:17] woodwizzle: I have
[17:52:19] juski: DarkDrgn2k: yeah you need to setup the card on the slave
[17:52:26] DarkDrgn2k: i did
[17:52:27] juski: and set up the channels
[17:52:35] DarkDrgn2k: i did
[17:52:35] juski: no, since you changed it to be a slave
[17:52:46] DarkDrgn2k: i DID lol
[17:52:50] DarkDrgn2k: well 1 sec
[17:52:55] DarkDrgn2k: lets try i tagain
[17:53:07] woodwizzle: What kinda audio device does it want there? Something like ALSA:plughw:0,2?
[17:53:27] DarkDrgn2k: yes its there
[17:53:33] DarkDrgn2k: aaa
[17:53:41] DarkDrgn2k: the cx88 got video0 this time
[17:55:01] juski: DarkDrgn2k: you need a udev rule or some module blacklisting & loading
[17:55:33] DarkDrgn2k: i been playing with drivesr.. thast prob why
[17:56:09] DarkDrgn2k: you can boot linux oif a usb drive right
[17:56:59] DarkDrgn2k: yay it works LOL
[17:57:11] DarkDrgn2k: ok heres a question
[17:57:25] Blaksmith: hrm... I'm deciding to stay home instead of going out lol... but on the install.. WWW::Mechanize and DBD::mysql won't install
[17:57:28] DarkDrgn2k: i get liek a wiesr flash ever few mins when playing back.. whats goign on
[17:57:45] Dagmar: It's the drugs.
[17:58:23] DarkDrgn2k: looks like 1/2 the screen is draw starting at the 1/2 way point
[17:59:46] Blaksmith: DarkDrgn2k, you know much about the install of the cpan modules? for the ppv listings...
[18:00:27] DarkDrgn2k: what distro
[18:00:32] Blaksmith: Debian Sarge
[18:00:37] DarkDrgn2k: oh
[18:00:46] Dagmar: You run `cpan` as root.
[18:00:50] Blaksmith: yep
[18:00:57] Dagmar: You type `install WWW::Mechanize`. You wait.
[18:01:13] Dagmar: If it asks you about installing dependencies, you say YES.
[18:01:17] Blaksmith: it got through it, but failed a bunch of tests
[18:01:24] Dagmar: If it still fucks up, you go hassle *Debian maintainers* about it
[18:01:31] Blaksmith: lol
[18:01:38] Dagmar: it's their fuckup
[18:01:50] Blaksmith: Failed 2/40 test scripts, 95.00% okay. 6/426 subtests failed, 98.59% okay.
[18:01:50] Blaksmith: make: *** [test_dynamic] Error 255
[18:01:51] Dagmar: It won't get fixed unless people tell them it's broken
[18:02:08] Dagmar: OKay, for one thing, *two* tests is not "a bunch"
[18:02:18] Dagmar: For the other, if the damn thing installed anyway, you do not have a problem.
[18:02:39] Blaksmith: 8 tests and 10 subtests skipped
[18:02:46] Dagmar: Don't care.
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[18:02:51] Blaksmith: didn't install
[18:02:56] Dagmar: Absolutely NONE of that is this channel's purview
[18:03:10] Dagmar: Go bother Debian people about it or use a distro you actually know how to fix.
[18:03:13] Blaksmith: ya, I know.. this is for myth...
[18:03:23] Dagmar: SO fucking what
[18:04:05] Dagmar: I can put up with people being stupid and lazy and refusing to think for themselves and making someone else basically hold the mouse for them, BUT, people who are so damn lazy they won't even report problems to the right people is pushing it a bit goddamn too far.
[18:04:06] Blaksmith: you mis-read that... I was saying "this channel is for Myth" ... not for other stuff
[18:04:32] DarkDrgn2k: try ##linux
[18:04:36] Dagmar: Ach, okay then
[18:04:56] Dagmar: 99% of the time when someone says that they're trying to say "well, this is for my myth install so you have to help me"
[18:05:23] Dagmar: Debian people should either know how ot fix it off the bat, or they should be aware that it's a bug that needs fixing
[18:05:47] GreyFoxx: or use force install with cpan to ignore the test
[18:05:48] Blaksmith: naaa,a I'm part of the 1% that will try to get a "push" in the right direction...
[18:06:07] ** juski has a cattle-prod if that's any help :) **
[18:06:10] Blaksmith: rofl
[18:06:12] juski: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt!
[18:06:15] Dagmar: teehee
[18:06:27] Dagmar: I try to never use the force option
[18:06:43] GreyFoxx: depending on what the test is that's failing I use it
[18:06:51] GreyFoxx: like the DBD mysql database accessing test
[18:06:52] juski: hours of fun to be had with a cattle-prod & duct tape
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[18:07:14] Dagmar: Generally when something fails in CPAN it's because there's a dependency that's fallen out of date and it wasn't tagged correctly, or was *ahem* built against a broken library by the distro maintainers
[18:07:21] DarkDrgn2k: is there a way to stream myth over the web yet?
[18:07:26] juski: yes
[18:07:29] juski: there has been for ages
[18:07:34] juski: it's called mythstreamtv
[18:07:37] Blaksmith: autocheck and failure are the 2 that failed lol
[18:07:38] DarkDrgn2k: oh yeh :-S
[18:07:44] juski: ZZZZZZZZZZZT!
[18:07:44] DarkDrgn2k: i oculdt never get rit to work
[18:07:52] DarkDrgn2k: i always resorted to manyu vlc
[18:08:28] juski: took me less time than it did to build ffmpeg myself, to get mythstreamtv worky with mythtv 0.19
[18:08:45] juski: the installer script was fubar though
[18:08:54] juski: just like it is with the 0.20 script
[18:08:57] DarkDrgn2k: well lets give it another try i guess
[18:09:06] GreyFoxx: There is also a new asx streaming ability in svn
[18:09:11] juski: and it fucks up mythweb's css
[18:09:12] GreyFoxx: I haven't tried it but it's there
[18:09:25] DarkDrgn2k: maybe i should use svc then
[18:09:26] juski: the 'visit mythtv.org' linky is too high up
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[18:09:40] juski: what makes people read SVN as CVS?
[18:09:50] juski: I mean apart from beer goggles
[18:09:57] GreyFoxx: heh
[18:09:58] DarkDrgn2k: hmm bear
[18:10:16] juski: yay my show is on soon
[18:10:19] juski: "grumpy old new year"
[18:10:46] Dagmar: Lead in the water.
[18:11:05] Dagmar: ...although sometimes it's mercury in the water and lead in the candy.
[18:12:10] juski: just had to do a double-take just then. there's a show called "fear of fanny"
[18:12:16] DarkDrgn2k: so any one know when stargate atlantis will be playing again
[18:12:31] Dagmar: juski: I'm guessing it's an american show?
[18:12:38] juski: Dagmar: nope. British
[18:12:48] Dagmar: juski: Must be about gays then or something
[18:12:51] caitlin: hmm, turns out my new car is fitted with an alarm... i almost *wet* my pants
[18:12:57] juski: in the UK 'fanny' means the other hole
[18:13:20] Dagmar: In the US is still means butt, just not the hole specifically
[18:13:22] juski: produces many smirks & titters when USA folks say "fanny pack"
[18:13:29] caitlin: haha
[18:13:29] Dagmar: You people are operculum-obsessed.  ;)
[18:13:34] caitlin: americans are silly
[18:13:41] karim: juski, SUCCES !!!!
[18:13:47] karim: :D  :D o/
[18:13:51] juski: karim: powerstrip do the biz for yer?
[18:13:57] karim: yes
[18:14:03] karim: I found the good settings
[18:14:08] DarkDrgn2k: hmmm
[18:14:08] juski: had a feeling it might.
[18:14:14] DarkDrgn2k: seems mythstreamtv csv is empty?
[18:14:25] juski: csv?
[18:14:33] DarkDrgn2k: cva
[18:14:33] Dagmar: Amusing that it doesn't use comma separated values at all.
[18:14:33] DarkDrgn2k: s
[18:14:36] DarkDrgn2k: (to much excel)
[18:14:48] DarkDrgn2k: concurent versioning system
[18:14:51] DarkDrgn2k: (dam tla's)
[18:14:55] juski: I downloaded a tarball from mythdora or somewhere
[18:15:13] juski: it almost worky, just need to sort out a couple of trivial apache config issues
[18:15:32] juski: and install a _proper_ ffmpeg cos ubuntu's is crippled
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[18:15:45] DarkDrgn2k: wher do i install it
[18:15:48] DarkDrgn2k: slave or master
[18:15:58] juski: linux for human beings.. who don't want to be able to play or encode mp3s
[18:16:11] juski: since mythweb lives on the MBE, the master
[18:17:03] DarkDrgn2k: but the tuenr is on the slave!
[18:17:14] juski: so?
[18:17:17] DarkDrgn2k: or does it use myth protocol
[18:17:19] DarkDrgn2k: nice.,.
[18:17:22] juski: mythstreamtv doesn't do livetv
[18:17:27] DarkDrgn2k: baa
[18:17:47] ** juski presses the 'extra boost' button on his cattle-prod **
[18:17:58] DarkDrgn2k: "<DarkDrgn2k> is there a way to stream myth over the web yet?"
[18:18:01] DarkDrgn2k: ok let me rephrase is
[18:18:07] DarkDrgn2k: is ther eany way to stream live tv over web yet?
[18:18:18] kormoc: no
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[18:18:51] Juski: my cattle-prod blew a fuse
[18:18:53] Juski: damn
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[18:22:45] ** Juski uploads blootube.tar.bz2 **
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[18:28:20] Blaksmith: looks like it's workin!
[18:28:21] Juski: now time to work on blootubelite-wide :)
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[18:31:49] Blaksmith: got PPV listings now hehe :)
[18:31:53] Juski: done
[18:31:57] Blaksmith: now to just put it in a cron :)
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[18:32:59] DarkDrgn2k: but how can you WATCH ppv listings
[18:33:03] DarkDrgn2k: LOL
[18:33:08] DarkDrgn2k: actualy dont asnwerthat we DONT wanna know
[18:33:22] ** Blaksmith grins evilly **
[18:33:39] DarkDrgn2k: DVB?
[18:33:43] Blaksmith: ps 3500
[18:33:48] DarkDrgn2k: ah
[18:34:09] DarkDrgn2k: cs5k
[18:34:15] DarkDrgn2k: =)
[18:34:37] cesman: Juski: more improves to blootube?
[18:34:43] woodwizzle: i'm absolutely stumped :(
[18:34:44] DarkDrgn2k: id love to know how to merge two xml into 1
[18:34:44] Blaksmith: cool :)
[18:35:21] Juski: cesman: a much lighter footprint blootube-wide and a 4:3 blootube
[18:35:44] woodwizzle: maybe I have a bad cd-audio cable
[18:35:56] DarkDrgn2k: try plugging speaker into audio out
[18:35:59] DarkDrgn2k: see if u get anythin
[18:36:24] DarkDrgn2k: on the card
[18:36:58] kormoc: DarkDrgn2k, you just do or you just don't. there's no hard and fast rules for how XML is imported, so it all depends on the client app
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[18:37:50] Juski: uploading both new themes now
[18:37:59] Juski: wow. I've been prodigious
[18:38:42] Juski: bout 6 mins left on the upload
[18:38:49] Juski: thank f. these are smaller
[18:39:11] Juski: I need to rejig my website again (groan)
[18:39:21] DarkDrgn2k: what is bluetube
[18:39:28] caitlin: beautiful
[18:39:31] Juski: www.juski.co.uk
[18:39:44] cesman: Juski: cool!
[18:39:53] cesman: I'll have to upgrade and add
[18:39:54] Juski: I did once think about buying domains for my themes, but with 6 of them now...
[18:40:35] Juski: cesman the names of the files are as follows:
[18:40:39] Juski: blootubelite-wide
[18:40:43] Juski: and blootube
[18:40:49] Juski: the others remain the same
[18:41:00] cesman: ok
[18:41:13] cesman: gotta result mythmusic not wanting to build w/ aac
[18:41:27] cesman: s/result/resolve
[18:41:29] Juski: blootubelite-wide is a mere 7218499 bytes !
[18:41:41] DarkDrgn2k: any one seen this with a pvr 150 blaster:
[18:41:41] DarkDrgn2k: lirc_pvr150: key (0x00/0x00)
[18:42:24] Juski: cesman: blootube (the 43) theme will still need testing, but it should be fine
[18:43:29] Juski: okay. up & at em... http://www.mythtvtalk.com/juski/blootubelite-wide/
[18:43:36] Juski: and http://www.mythtvtalk.com/juski/blootube/
[18:43:46] caitlin: *click*
[18:44:17] j2:
[18:44:25] cesman: Juski: blootube is the 4:3 and lite should replace the old wide correct?
[18:44:28] caitlin: *twiddle*
[18:44:45] Juski: cesman: no, lite is blootube-wide's slimmer brother :)
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[18:44:59] caitlin: will the same osd work on both?
[18:45:04] Juski: yeah
[18:45:11] caitlin: lovely
[18:45:13] Juski: there is no _wide_ OSD
[18:45:45] Juski: though blootube-osd is designed with wide in mind
[18:45:47] Kixxass: hi... ripping a dvd works fine, however it takes very long. Is it ok for a 3 hour movie to take 7+ hours to encode to xvid on "good" quality setting?
[18:45:57] Kixxass: on a sempron 2800, 512 ram
[18:45:58] Juski: Kixxass: about right
[18:46:11] Juski: get a kicksass cpu if you want faster faster
[18:46:17] Juski: :-P
[18:46:27] caitlin: where's my bloody remote?
[18:46:27] Kixxass: any ways to improve ripping speed?
[18:46:32] Kixxass: software-like?
[18:46:34] Juski: get a faster cpu
[18:46:37] Kixxass: :)
[18:46:46] Juski: or decrease the encoding quality
[18:47:01] caitlin: *spang*
[18:47:04] caitlin: oooooooh
[18:47:16] Kixxass: hmm
[18:47:23] ** Blaksmith needs to put a better cpu in this thing... it overheats lol **
[18:47:36] Juski: must.. resist the temptation to tell the users list about the new themes
[18:47:40] Juski: must resist....
[18:47:42] ** kormoc laughs **
[18:47:49] Kixxass: ok another question: is it possible to "detach" the mythmusic plugin, so that music keeps playing, e.g. when looking at picture galleries
[18:47:52] Kixxass: ?
[18:47:56] kormoc: Kixxass, no
[18:48:04] Juski: Kixxass: yeah, if you rewrite mythmusic & mythtv
[18:48:08] Kixxass: hm ;)
[18:48:16] Kixxass: ok i'll do it this evening ;)
[18:48:22] kormoc: yeah, as always, patches would be happy and welcome!
[18:48:33] Juski: that's one of the aims of the mfd I believe, among other stuff
[18:48:46] kormoc: Kixxass, I'll announce it on the mailing list, so if you're late, 100,000 users will start emailing you asking where it is!
[18:48:50] Kixxass: LOL
[18:48:58] Blaksmith: rofl
[18:49:24] Kixxass: well i'm not gonna release it...ever ;)
[18:50:11] caitlin: Juski, i'm using the 4:3... do you want to know about anything odd it does?
[18:51:47] Juski: caitlin: yeah in an email, with screenshots – to the address specified in README.txt
[18:52:03] j2: Uhm, mythweb tells me "The database environment variables are not correctly set in the
[18:52:11] j2: included .htaccess file.
[18:52:23] j2: But, it seem to be, and mod_env seem to be loaded. What might be awry here?
[18:52:23] xris: j2: you didn't set things up properly. read the README
[18:52:27] caitlin: wickedzzzzz
[18:52:36] Juski: wow. that must mean that The database environment variables are not correctly set in the included .htaccess file
[18:52:44] kormoc: imagine that!
[18:52:50] j2: xris: lets assume i did that, and i still cant see what is wrong?
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[18:53:03] caitlin: password
[18:53:05] j2: AllowOverride is ALL
[18:53:10] caitlin: a bit further down
[18:53:19] kormoc: j2, can you connect to the mysql database from the machine the webserver is on?
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[18:53:41] j2: kormoc: Yes, backend is running nicely
[18:54:08] kormoc: j2, you sure php as mysql support?
[18:54:09] ** caitlin does the "i bet it's the password in the htaccess file" dance **
[18:54:27] j2: kormoc: phpmyadmin runs fine.
[18:54:30] ** xris does the "I bet he didn't set AllowOverride properly" dance **
[18:54:35] caitlin: heh
[18:54:36] j2: caitlin: Password is correct.
[18:54:40] caitlin: *DANCE OFF*
[18:54:45] caitlin: aww, shame
[18:54:47] caitlin: :P
[18:54:52] ** kormoc laughs **
[18:54:59] j2: But, ill give you a 5.6 on that ;)
[18:55:06] kormoc: j2, so where did you set the allow override?
[18:55:29] j2: kormoc: /etc/apache2/conf.d/mythweb.conf (where the deb-packages sticks it)
[18:55:45] kormoc: and the path in the directory directive is correct?
[18:55:48] xris: j2: so you're using packages?
[18:56:14] j2: xris: No. I started with packagfes, but now i have been running svn for a few months. But i try to reuse the structure.
[18:56:16] caitlin: listen you pig shit northern cow, how ever many times you type it into the fucking phone it is the WRONG NUMBER, and always will be
[18:56:24] j2: and now the bit we will all hate "It worked yesterday" :)
[18:56:31] Juski: hahaha I forgot about gallery-ui.xml
[18:56:39] xris: j2: oh. then follow the INSTALL file for svn. I changed a bunch of stuff a couple weeks ago.
[18:56:41] kormoc: caitlin, if it's a cow, just remember, one day, it'll be your dinner
[18:56:50] Juski: caitlin: delete gallery-ui.xml from the theme dir (blootube, the 4:3 one)
[18:56:51] caitlin: ew
[18:56:59] j2: xris: where's that?
[18:57:11] ** kormoc starts humming Cows with Guns **
[18:57:24] Blaksmith: rofl kormoc
[18:57:46] ** caitlin does so **
[18:58:09] j2: kormoc: no offence, but kormoc sounds almost like komocka, which is swedish for "cowpie" so.. well, kinda suiting for hunting? *ducks
[18:58:29] j2: ...and that WAS just a joke :)
[18:58:41] kormoc: heh, nah, that's just so the cows will ask what I am, and when I tell them, they'll wonder off and I'll be saved!
[18:59:09] xris: j2: did you install mythweb from svn?
[18:59:14] j2: xris: yeah.
[18:59:35] xris: then you should have an INSTALL file right there
[18:59:45] xris: along with a new apache conf file (which you will need to edit)
[18:59:55] j2: i have a README?
[19:00:02] xris: j2: fixes or trunk?
[19:00:06] j2: fixes
[19:00:11] xris: oh, that's different. nevermind.
[19:00:19] xris: most people mean trunk when they say "svn"
[19:00:41] kormoc: j2, http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/branches/r . . . thweb/README
[19:00:45] kormoc: j2, there's your README
[19:01:02] j2: uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhh... now i see something bad here... I did a apt-get --download-only -u dist-upgrade ysterday, and i thought i was gonna pick through the packages..... guess what... i seem to have left out the --download-only :-/
[19:01:12] xris: oops
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[19:02:03] j2: FSCK... the fact that it has upgraded me from apache 1.3 to apache 2 might have something to do with htis.....
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[19:02:57] Juski: right that's blootube fixed. no more gallery-ui.xml to screw it up
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[19:03:21] xris: j2: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . hweb/INSTALL
[19:03:28] Juski: now I just need an updated website
[19:03:30] xris: j2: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . .conf.apache
[19:03:30] Juski: just
[19:03:32] Juski: pffffff
[19:03:48] xris: j2: grab *just* those two files from svn and follow the instructions.
[19:04:34] xris: Juski: get off your lazy a$$ and do some work, already!  ;)
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[19:05:20] DarkDrgn2k: any one know how to use ivtv-tune to tune to a composite
[19:05:25] ** Juski laughs uproariously **
[19:05:30] Juski: DarkDrgn2k: you don't
[19:05:33] DarkDrgn2k: ok
[19:05:38] DarkDrgn2k: ivtvctl
[19:05:39] Juski: you use ivtvctl
[19:05:44] DarkDrgn2k: yeh which parm is it
[19:05:45] Juski: or v4l2ctl
[19:05:57] Juski: run ivtvctl & it'll show you
[19:06:01] DarkDrgn2k: doesnt lol
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[19:06:09] Juski: run ivtvctl -a & it'll show you
[19:06:23] Juski: either or
[19:06:30] DarkDrgn2k: nop
[19:06:30] DarkDrgn2k: lol
[19:06:43] ** Juski wonders how many visitors to this channel are still being breast fed **
[19:06:57] ** DarkDrgn2k wonders if hes blind **
[19:07:37] DarkDrgn2k: http://pastebin.ca/296953
[19:07:38] Juski: -p, --set-input=<num> set the current video input to <num> [VIDIOC_S_INPUT]
[19:07:40] DarkDrgn2k: you tell me if u see it
[19:08:08] DarkDrgn2k: aaaa old ivtv i think
[19:08:13] ** DarkDrgn2k not brain dead **
[19:08:24] j2: xris: call me daft, but exactly wjah in mythweb.conf.apache shgould i edit?
[19:08:27] Juski: must be v4l2ctl then
[19:08:45] DarkDrgn2k: oo i am brain dead
[19:09:12] Juski: okay crispy new blootube available from http://www.mythtvtalk.com/juski/blootube/
[19:09:34] GreyFoxx: 4x3 ?
[19:09:38] Juski: yep
[19:09:44] GreyFoxx: sweet, *grabs*
[19:09:58] xris: j2: read INSTALL
[19:10:05] Juski: call it beta for now though.. only tested as much as I could which means I mighta missed some bits
[19:10:09] xris: and the comments in the conf file itself
[19:10:25] Juski: GreyFoxx: if you're using svn could you please test the 'jump to program' menu?
[19:10:49] Juski: I dunno if I put it in or not
[19:11:12] GreyFoxx: The one visible in the OSD overlay ?
[19:11:19] Juski: can't test that here cos my spare box is now the slave BE :)
[19:11:31] Juski: yeah where it says 'jump to program' or something like that
[19:11:34] j2: xris: Doh, sorry, i did a wget, and for a moment there thought i was supposed to edit the HTML i got in return.....
[19:11:44] GreyFoxx: Juski: I'll try it
[19:11:49] Juski: cheers :)
[19:11:54] xris: j2: no, you have to use the download link on that page
[19:12:04] xris: trac is silly that way
[19:12:18] ** Juski looks up css for absolute noob-tards **
[19:12:45] Juski: then realises he already has a template he can scrobble
[19:13:06] Juski: and a site layout :)
[19:13:41] xris: for mythtv.org? or mythweb?
[19:14:16] Juski: mythtv.org & my own site :)
[19:14:18] xris: heh
[19:14:34] cesman: anyone know the issue w/ mythmusic not building w/ aac?
[19:14:40] Juski: lots of birds, one stone etc
[19:14:49] cesman: I have the -dev files needed but no go
[19:14:59] Juski: cesman: seen it myself but always opted to disable it
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[19:16:34] xris: Juski: light blue selector on the main page in blootube is a little blocky around the corners....
[19:16:53] xris: of course, I'm running 4:3 on a widescreen monitor
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[19:18:03] j2: xris: Now i still get the same warning dialog, but it no longer hints that i need to enable mod_env
[19:18:39] xris: j2: restarted apache?
[19:18:43] j2: xris: Yeah
[19:19:00] xris: make sure that <directory> matches your mythweb install dir?
[19:19:14] xris: and deleted the old.conf from the packages?
[19:20:04] j2: xris: Doorbell. Brb!
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[19:22:15] j2: xris: yeah, there is only the files for mythweb and phpmyadmin in /etc/apache2/conf.d now
[19:22:24] nelius: how can i get my (ir_common) IR working with X / myth?
[19:22:47] nelius: only a few keys are working so far :-(
[19:23:20] nelius: i can see that all keys are recognised by the kernel if i switch debug on for ir_common kernel module
[19:23:32] nelius: but in X / Myth they are not working
[19:24:18] j2: xris: is there anyway to increase verbosity of that dilog?
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[19:24:30] nelius: with xev i can see that "keys" are pressed, but it dosn't know them
[19:24:50] xris: j2: no, because it can't know why it's not geting the data
[19:25:00] xris: j2: what directory name did you use?
[19:25:25] j2: its /var/www/mythweb
[19:25:54] xris: and you have /var/www/mythweb/mythweb.php ?
[19:26:13] j2: xris: Yes, the file is there.
[19:26:42] xris: ok. it *should* be working fine, then.
[19:26:46] j2: xris: I was more refereing to "is it actually reading the settings from the htaccess?"
[19:26:58] j2: xris: Wait, it must be. Rewrite is obviosuly handling the index-file.
[19:27:01] xris: oh. get rid of your .htaccess file
[19:27:08] xris: (rename it for now)
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[19:27:15] xris: the conf file replaces it
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[19:27:42] xris: brb
[19:27:56] j2: xris: A-HA! it now gives me a permission error.. which i am willing to agree on :)
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[19:28:35] j2: xris: YEY! thanks!
[19:29:04] Juski: xris: 4:3 on a widescreen monitor? sheesh
[19:29:14] Juski: I'll have a look at it
[19:30:44] xris: Juski: well, I just got the widescreen monitor yesterday.
[19:31:04] xris: and it looks better than 16:9 on a 4:3 monitor (tv next to me) which I also use sometimes
[19:31:11] xris: (when my video card decides to work)
[19:31:15] xris: j2: that fixed it?
[19:31:21] j2: xris: yeap.
[19:31:32] xris: j2: poke around in the conf file and enable the compression stuff — it'll speed up page loads
[19:31:56] j2: xris: i will, but i found a bigger problem i need to deal with first. It seem mythTV has gone UTF-8 on me....
[19:32:38] j2: xris: If it wasnt for the fact that my backups are locked in a safe at work, and the weather is shitty, i am so tempted to revert to a pre-accidental-dist-upgrade-config :)
[19:33:09] ** Juski tests a newly drawn button **
[19:33:22] Juski: oh yeah
[19:34:13] Juski: xris: grab a new one from http://www.mythtvtalk.com/juski/blootube/button_on.png : )
[19:34:31] j2: xris (or anyone)... What on earth may cause mythtv and mythweb to start showing what appears to be UTF-8?
[19:34:35] Juski: iterate! iterate!
[19:35:09] Dagmar: Oh god no not ascii
[19:35:34] Juski: mmmm shiny shiny
[19:35:47] Juski: uploading a new tarball
[19:35:58] cesman: another one?!
[19:36:19] Juski: yeah the menu button was a tad blocky
[19:36:22] Juski: blame xris :-P
[19:36:47] xris: much nicer.  :)
[19:36:57] Juski: I'd noticed it myself & thought nah... never mind it
[19:37:07] xris: j2: no clue, there.
[19:37:26] Juski: j2 maybe the listings provider have started going utf-8
[19:37:30] Juski: or not
[19:37:38] xris: j2: did your database get upgraded?
[19:37:46] j2: Juski: Nah, it also goes for descriptions of recorded programs and everything.
[19:37:59] j2: xris: I honestly do not know after that clusterfsck of mine.
[19:38:45] j2: xris: yeah, looks like mySQL has been upgraded to 4.1.15–1
[19:38:52] xris: j2: that's probably what did it
[19:39:00] Juski: you had a clusterfuck? next time don't have it near your desk
[19:39:08] Juski: then you won't lie on the keyboard :)
[19:39:09] j2: xris: Anything i can do to recover you think?
[19:39:31] Juski: hokees. new spanky tarball is uploady-fied
[19:39:37] j2: Juski: Lets just say i did "apt-get --download-only dist-upgrade" ...... only i forgot the --download-only
[19:39:40] xris: j2: just your program data, right?
[19:39:42] ** Juski sighs. any more work? **
[19:39:48] j2: xris: Yeah, seems that way.
[19:39:58] xris: j2: could wipe it and rerun mfdb
[19:40:09] Dagmar: Your buttons should be different sizes so the blind can differentiate them
[19:40:11] j2: xris: so _new_ data should be ok?
[19:40:19] xris: j2: no clue. worth a shot, though
[19:40:45] j2: xris: Ill see what happens aftr the next run, i do NOT wanna provoke my ssytem any more right now :)
[19:41:05] Juski: Dagmar: that's what my mythspeak plugin is for
[19:41:18] Dagmar: Oh, so blind people can watch TV?
[19:41:29] kormoc: sure, that's what aalib is for
[19:41:48] Juski: all these plugins I need to get around to writing.. sheesh.
[19:41:54] xris: j2: next run will only pull in a day's worth
[19:42:07] j2: xris: yeah, but i should see what happens with the data.
[19:42:07] kormoc: j2, three days I thought
[19:42:13] kormoc: xris, erm, 3 days I thought
[19:42:15] Dagmar: I want a braille theater display so I can lie down on it
[19:42:20] kormoc: xris, today, tomorrow, and day 14
[19:42:44] j2: Hm, two more questions: Any idea when mytharchive may be able to handle data on remote backends? And when is the mythical web interface for it coming? :)
[19:43:24] Juski: the mythical web interface was called mythburn already
[19:43:44] j2: I really am so far behing, aint i? :)
[19:43:59] Juski: or rather, you're not
[19:44:07] Juski: mythburn has been around for a loooong time
[19:44:12] kormoc: ooh, everyone should use these guys: http://www.nouptime.com/
[19:44:19] xris: j2: no clue
[19:45:05] Juski: hey if I use those guys, I'll never get anyone whining about my themes!
[19:45:06] Juski: :)
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[19:46:00] Juski: "... and ReiserFS" lol
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[19:50:03] Jack3: hi all
[19:51:46] cesman: hello
[19:52:00] Jack3: I was wondering if I could use IrTuner and Build a sort of IR blaster hardware?
[19:52:10] Jack3: Has anyone ever attempted this for tuning adigital box?
[19:52:23] cesman: I've no idea what irtuner is...
[19:52:35] cesman: yes, you can build your own irblaster
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[19:53:04] cesman: google or lirc.org has schematics
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[19:53:24] Jack3: its a program that claims to be supported by many tv recording programs and sends the channel info to the IR hardware...
[19:53:53] Jack3: ah cool, thank you
[19:54:08] cesman: you're welcome
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[19:54:39] kormoc: Jack3, sounds like a lirc clone. lirc is the standard one for linux apps
[19:55:14] Jack3: oh okay cool
[19:56:33] j2: Jack3: or, if you wanna go overboard, checkout the ethernet based equipment at irtrans.de :)
[19:56:55] Jack3: alright
[19:57:32] j2: You know.... Houses /apartments really should have central 12VDC and 5VDC distributed to rooms.
[19:58:10] Jack3: also, does lirc.org have a ir transmitter circuit, cause im only seeing receivers.?
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[19:58:39] Jack3: j2, tthat would be awesome heh, they should add a variac to control the amperage as well ;)
[19:59:14] j2: Actually... i think i am gonna do it... I have *count* nine difference 5VDC things on my desk.. each with a wall wart....
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[20:00:20] kormoc: Jack3, look up lirc ir blaster, you'll find some
[20:00:30] Jack3: actually i found it on google
[20:00:31] j2: MythArchive really _REALLY_ should ha have a "Confirm" on the "Abort" bytton *gah*
[20:00:36] Jack3: http://www.lirc.org/transmitters.html
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[20:00:39] Jack3: heh
[20:00:42] xris: j2: would make it easier for LED lighting throughout the house
[20:01:08] j2: xris: LED's, cell chargers, PDA, charders, iRiver charger.
[20:01:13] Ross_C: jack3: there are a number of them – usbuirt is one
[20:02:28] ericpersson: My mythtv config doesnt change channels on keyup/down(the tvguideinfo changes, but not the channel). I can change it manually with ivtv-tune... what should I do to get it done automatically?
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[20:02:28] j2:
[20:02:51] Ross_C: hey just upgraded to svn from 12/28 and am now enjoying the mythbackend dying and can't restart from initscripts feature – is this fixed in svn 12355?
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[20:03:31] kormoc: Ross_C, depends on why it's failing. run it by hand and read the output
[20:03:34] xris: Ross_C: I'm running something from a couple days ago and it works fine.
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[20:04:24] j2: Now what, mythfrontend gives me undefined symbol: _ZNK11ProgramInfo17GetRecordBasenameEv when i try to archive. It _was_ working, then i accidentally hit "abort" and now i can not restart?
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[20:05:44] Ross_C: kormoc, xris: backend starts, scheduler starts, then... 2006-12–30 11:53:53.303 MythSocket(a0ca948:-1): writeStringList: Error, socket went unconnected.
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[20:06:09] xris: Ross_C: -v all
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[20:12:36] SeaWeed: can some 1 Tell me what file & dir mythtv stores channel list in
[20:12:37] SeaWeed: ?
[20:12:53] cesman: there is no file or dir
[20:13:00] cesman: the info is stored in the db
[20:13:13] SeaWeed: :( oh boy
[20:13:18] SeaWeed: this Going to be Fun
[20:13:41] SeaWeed: cant seem to get a good scan or i just dont understand how-to do it 1
[20:13:49] xris: SeaWeed: you in the US?
[20:13:53] SeaWeed: yes
[20:14:00] xris: use zap2it
[20:14:26] SeaWeed: Could not Pull signal With Bugget card ( DST-1000 ) poped my Nexus in Signal came rite in
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[20:15:19] SeaWeed: i have a Vision 1020A im going to Try in little While
[20:15:44] xris: SeaWeed: what are you trying to scan?
[20:16:27] SeaWeed: 110 – 119 – 91 – 82
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[20:17:20] xris: for all 5 FTA channels? enjoy.
[20:17:27] woodwizzle: arrghh
[20:17:40] woodwizzle: I know I have my mixer setup correctly, according to the docs anyway
[20:17:53] SeaWeed: Well im shure you know i not just looking for FTA
[20:17:54] SeaWeed: lol
[20:18:07] woodwizzle: but I must be missing something because I can't get sound from the framegrabber card
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[20:18:15] woodwizzle: not from tvtime or mythtv
[20:18:17] xris: SeaWeed: then don't talk about it here.
[20:18:23] SeaWeed: I want
[20:18:33] SeaWeed: understood
[20:18:54] SeaWeed: im just trying to get good channel list
[20:19:15] xris: standard dishnet lnbf?
[20:20:09] SeaWeed: useing Old ( direct tv plus dish & LNB's ) 5 Lnb's on 1 Dish only 1 not being used is ( 101 )
[20:20:25] SeaWeed: with a 4 port Diseq switch
[20:20:36] Jack3: is it gonna kill the IR Led if I use a 3k instead of a 2.7k resistor in this circuit .. http://iguanaworks.net/ir/serial/ir_schematic.pdf
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[20:20:57] xris: SeaWeed: I just know that the dishnet diseqc switch doesn't seem to work with dvb cards.
[20:21:14] SeaWeed: yah Not Normaly dish switch
[20:21:22] SeaWeed: this is a Diseq switch
[20:21:36] russK: Do I need the host-bin.000* files in /var/lib/mysql? ... they filled up my /var partition :-[
[20:21:37] SeaWeed: i do pull some channels but cant get good scan
[20:22:33] Dagmar: russK: Buy a UPS
[20:22:38] SeaWeed: let me ask this can i convert a ( vdr channel.conf ) into mythtv database ?
[20:22:49] Dagmar: There's no law against it
[20:22:58] russK: Dagmar: How will a UPS help?
[20:23:01] xris: russK: turn off binlog in /etc/my.cnf
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[20:23:25] Jack3: i guess ill asume it will still work
[20:23:38] Dagmar: russK: less unexpected power failures and maybe you'll stop crashing your mysqld and making those files
[20:24:02] Jack3: also, if I remove the TSOP IR receiver http://iguanaworks.net/ir/serial/ir_schematic.pdf from that circuit, do i just not connect pin 1 DCD to anything
[20:24:11] russK: Dagmar: so those files are created when mysql crashes?
[20:24:14] xris: Dagmar: those look more like binlog files..
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[20:25:04] Dagmar: I'd like to think so, but I dont' think it's likely that someone would be making them happen knowing apparently nothing about MySQL operation
[20:25:22] Dagmar: Unless, of course, they're a Gentoo user
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[20:25:44] xris: russK: put your /etc/my.cnf file into a pastebin
[20:27:42] Ross_C: wow – you can learn a lot from looking at logs of mythbackend -v all ...
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[20:29:02] russK: http://pastebin.com/848027
[20:29:06] Juski: you can learn a lot from rtfm too
[20:29:07] Juski: :)
[20:31:45] xris: wow, pastebin is being slow
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[20:32:00] russK: yeah it took a while to paste
[20:32:15] xris: russK: you see that log-bin line?
[20:32:22] russK: yes i see it
[20:32:34] xris: comment it out
[20:32:38] xris: restart mysql
[20:32:49] xris: delete those -bin files you don't like. they shouldn't come back
[20:33:02] russK: cool thanks!
[20:33:08] xris: and kormoc says that gentoo never does stupid stuff like changing default configs....  :P
[20:33:23] Juski: whoah hang on I have binary logging enabled too
[20:33:33] xris: lol
[20:33:41] Dagmar: Man it's just about always the Gentoo users doing it
[20:33:50] Juski: ubungee
[20:33:58] Dagmar: "Ooo... I need more omfgoptimzations! Let's flip switches and uncomment things!"
[20:34:10] kormoc: xris, binlogs are enabled by default by mysql :P
[20:34:15] Juski: this is the default
[20:34:27] Juski: erm, so what's so bad about binlogs
[20:34:29] Juski: ?
[20:34:49] kormoc: takes up harddrive space
[20:35:21] Juski: is that all?
[20:35:26] kormoc: aye
[20:35:34] Zider: I never "flip switches" just to get stuff optimised.. screw optimisations, I have a fast enough cpu not to care about that ;)
[20:35:45] GreyFoxx: Juski: uneeded diskio and wasted space
[20:35:48] xris: kormoc: I didn't think mysql included a my.cnf file by default
[20:35:56] GreyFoxx: for some people they get HUGE and are not auto removed
[20:35:59] kormoc: xris, aye, they do
[20:36:04] xris: lovely
[20:36:12] Juski: got plenty of that, so no worries then
[20:36:12] GreyFoxx: kormoc since wehen ?
[20:36:14] Juski: o eck
[20:36:19] Dagmar: slackware's does not have binlogs enabled
[20:36:32] Juski: max_binlog_size = 104857600
[20:36:32] GreyFoxx: at least when compiling by source they include example my.cnf's but nothing is installed
[20:36:33] Juski: !
[20:36:43] kormoc: GreyFoxx, xris, well, I take that back, they have a my.cnf in the shared
[20:36:47] kormoc: yeah...
[20:36:57] kormoc: seems like gentoo just copys the example one over
[20:36:59] kormoc: my mistake
[20:37:02] xris: Juski: yes. and then it rotates
[20:37:09] xris: doesn't delete the old ones unless you do it manually
[20:37:28] xris: they're a recovery tool, so it relies on you to delete by hand.
[20:37:44] GreyFoxx: they are also used for databae replication with a slave
[20:37:59] Juski: 922M used so far
[20:38:00] Juski: eep
[20:38:36] Zider: where are those binlogs stored?
[20:38:54] GreyFoxx: Zider: at the top of the mysql data directory
[20:38:54] xris: GreyFoxx: that, too.
[20:39:05] xris: Zider: in the mysql directory.. usually /var/lib/mysql
[20:39:17] Juski: maybe /var/log/mysql
[20:39:34] Zider: ah
[20:39:34] defaultro: GreyFoxx, I spoke to vlc folks and they told me that it's possible to split a movie into 2 screens
[20:41:55] Zider: holy sh*t that's a lot of logfiles :P
[20:42:05] SeaWeed: lol
[20:42:31] russK: They seem ridiculously large too
[20:42:51] Zider: one of them is 78MB :P
[20:43:20] xris: russK: it logs every piece of data the enters/changes in the db
[20:43:21] russK: Mine were of gigabyte proportions
[20:43:22] GreyFoxx: just wasted space for 99% of people out there
[20:43:39] Zider: russK: each file?
[20:44:04] kormoc: just don't delete the ib_logfile* files
[20:44:36] xris: heh
[20:45:29] russK: some were only megabytes :-)
[20:46:49] russK: I guess if I was going to use log-bin I would move their storage place to my big partition
[20:47:24] ** xris wonders about the point of keeping lots of separate partitions. **
[20:47:47] Zider: well, I like to at least separate /boot, / and /home
[20:48:06] xris: I can understand /boot.. /home never made much sense to me in recent years.
[20:48:40] Zider: if a system reinstall is needed, there's less risk of accidentally removing personal files and stuff
[20:49:27] Zider: and if /home gets filled up it doesn't affect system daemons
[20:49:55] GreyFoxx: I always seperate / , /usr, /home and /var
[20:50:03] Zider: some programs really hate to run if the drive is 100% full ;)
[20:50:18] kormoc: Zider, heh, that's why there's reserved space for root :P
[20:50:37] Zider: kormoc: and if root fills up that space? :P
[20:50:54] BULLE: spank root
[20:50:57] kormoc: Zider, you're wonderful attentive self would notice? :P
[20:50:58] Zider: ;P
[20:51:12] Zider: kormoc: uh, no? :P
[20:51:12] kormoc: *your
[20:52:03] kormoc: Zider, meh, nothing data intensive should be run as root. I'd notice in day to day stuff long before root fills up the reserved space
[20:52:07] GreyFoxx: by seperating /home rogue users can't fill the drive and you don;t have to impose quotas, seperate /var and the same for crazy logs, /usr should be pretty much readonly anyway during day to day operations
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[20:53:10] GreyFoxx: and I prefer to keep / seperate so that if other partitions/parts of the disk are fscked up usually I can still boot/mount root and use the various tools like fsck(and vi etc whcih should be on /) to potentially fix it or access data I need'
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[20:53:55] xris: GreyFoxx: how many home linux users do you know who could have "rogue users" though?
[20:54:20] Zider: mysql can obviously fill up quite a bit of space ;)
[20:54:25] GreyFoxx: No clue, but I'm not just a "home linux user" so I don;t think that way :)
[20:54:40] xris: that's also what "root reserved" is for.  :)
[20:55:02] GreyFoxx: 5% isn't much :)
[20:55:13] xris: depends on how big the disk is
[20:55:19] GreyFoxx: infact I usually lower that to 1%, at least on ext2 partitions
[20:55:32] GreyFoxx: though admittedly it's rare I use ext2 anymore
[20:55:38] kormoc: heh, if 5% isn't much, why lower it? :P
[20:55:43] Zider: I use ext2 on /boot only
[20:56:09] GreyFoxx: kormoc: It's not much for it to be used as a "buffer", but I don't use it that way , so why waste any space on it at all ?:P)
[20:57:01] GreyFoxx: and by keeping /home on it's own partition only root is writing to /var or / anyway so no reason to reserve it :)
[20:57:23] GreyFoxx: obviously that last bit depends on how you arrange your data
[20:57:26] Zider: I have 5% on / but since pretty much only root writes there it doesn't matter anyway ;P
[20:59:25] cesman: Juski: the new files are up?
[20:59:45] Juski: cesman: yup
[20:59:56] Juski: just re-munging my webshite now
[21:00:04] Juski: new themes, new look!
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[21:00:36] ** cesman needs to do that **
[21:00:50] cesman: and move the site from home to OSDL
[21:03:53] Zider: OSDL?
[21:04:02] Zider: open source dual line?
[21:04:38] kormoc: http://www.osdl.org/
[21:05:21] Zider: ah
[21:11:19] sigger_: juski, my recollection is that once upon a time you metioned that on a EPIA with a CLE266 overscan doesn't take effect. am I remembering right?
[21:12:06] Juski: nope
[21:12:16] sigger_: hmm, ok then. my bad
[21:12:29] sigger_: do you know if it does work?
[21:12:40] Juski: 720x576Noscale tells me no lies :)
[21:13:03] sigger_: erm, is that the name of one of your modelines??
[21:13:27] Juski: no modeline
[21:13:43] Zider: no lice?
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[21:18:43] Jack3: so i spoke with some people and reworked the circuit to be working on PC 5v
[21:18:44] Jack3: http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2893/pcirzp8.gif
[21:18:50] Jack3: doesnt need the .33F cap either
[21:18:54] Jack3: should have good range
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[21:19:52] ** xris wonder show many users will be upset if he makes the default mythweb theme less blue. heh. **
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[21:27:10] kormoc: okay
[21:27:25] kormoc: so the lirc_mod_mce driver didn't support the ir blaster
[21:27:31] ** kormoc ponders if his changes made it work **
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[21:32:08] Juski: ooo yeah the new site is taking shape now
[21:32:58] Juski: hahahahaha HOW broken is it in IE?
[21:33:06] ** Juski rolls on the floor **
[21:33:17] caitlin: broken is IE is *good*
[21:33:26] Juski: yeah that's my main aim
[21:33:39] Juski: stop the fuckers using it to download my themes
[21:34:23] Juski: it's hardly as if I've even done anything _fancy_ with it, I'm only simulating frames
[21:34:26] ** caitlin glares at the windows machine her gf insists on keeping **
[21:36:49] Blaksmith: lol xris
[21:36:50] Juski: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/justin.hornsby2/ff.png is what it _should_ lookey likey
[21:37:05] Juski: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/justin.hornsby2/ie.png is what it lookey likey ie AIIIIIIIIEEEEE
[21:37:49] xris: heh
[21:37:54] xris: dontcha just love IE? heh
[21:37:56] Zider: ouchie
[21:38:27] Juski: that is gashness of the highest order
[21:38:29] xris: Juski: if blootube is done, you want me to start lobbying for you to take over maintaining myththemes?
[21:38:37] ** Juski runs away **
[21:38:56] xris: could get your themes into the default package that way.
[21:39:07] Juski: and would I have to promise not to delete G.A.N.T. ?
[21:39:20] xris: lol, probably
[21:39:25] xris: too many people like it.
[21:39:49] Juski: yeah some guy compared my theme to G.A.N.T.
[21:40:43] xris: I'd like to get isaac to see if there's a way to make a theme both 4:3 and 16:9 so we can do away with this whole wide/not-wide crap (just one theme and mythtv tells it which to use)....
[21:40:57] Juski: I don't mean any disrespect to its creator – it's skillfuly drawn & so on but it made me think "cave drawings" when I first saw it
[21:41:16] Juski: but taste isn't a universal thing :)
[21:41:19] Juski: so fair play to all
[21:41:23] xris: it's based on an OS icon set that someone drew, I think for osx.
[21:41:50] Juski: I've considered this wide/non-wide thing.. and without going to vector graphics...
[21:42:08] xris: http://tn3-2.deviantart.com/fs8/300W/i/2005/3 . . . by_CROBO.jpg
[21:42:16] Juski: see all those lovely rounded corners on my rectangles get wrecked by stretching
[21:42:32] xris: heh
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[21:43:04] caitlin: in mythmusic, what's the volume dohicky *supposed* to look like?
[21:43:07] caitlin: it's grey on grey here
[21:43:14] caitlin: "subtle" if not broken
[21:43:15] Juski: caitlin: see erm...
[21:43:21] Juski: hang on while I find it
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[21:43:47] Juski: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/justin.hornsby2/4by3music.png
[21:44:01] Juski: oh shit
[21:44:07] Juski: the bar for it is black
[21:44:12] caitlin: :P
[21:44:14] Juski: or rather translucent black
[21:44:14] m12: anyone know where recordings are saved?
[21:44:23] Juski: m12: where you tell myth to save them
[21:44:24] xris: m12: wherever you configured them to be
[21:44:35] Juski: caitlin: I'll fix it
[21:44:39] ericpersson: in /var/lib/mythtv ?
[21:44:41] m12: where is that option?
[21:44:41] Juski: cesman: hold yer horses fells
[21:44:49] Juski: m12: in the manual
[21:45:11] Juski: or if you can't be bothered to look there, look in the general settings page in mythtv-setup
[21:45:13] ericpersson: I setup a changechannel script, but I dont get any arguments to it, with the channel number or frequence, what might cause that?
[21:45:30] m12: I did look there Juski
[21:45:35] caitlin: whilst im here, the blue bit with the playlist in it is ON TOP of the brushed metal bit too. i dont care. it looks generally nice.. but for listing things sake
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[21:45:38] m12: it's not there
[21:46:07] Juski: m12: in the mythtv-setup program, it is
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[21:48:26] ericpersson: What might cause my external channel changer script not having any arguments?
[21:49:07] kormoc: booya!
[21:49:10] cesman: Juski: another update?!
[21:49:13] ** kormoc jumps around for joy **
[21:49:43] kormoc: and then realizes that I broke the remote! :P
[21:49:51] sigger_: and Option "TVOverscan" "0.5" in Monitor. that right?
[21:50:02] sigger_: or should I be mucking about with the modelines?
[21:50:16] sigger_: try that again:
[21:50:18] sigger_: juski, got it overscanning, but the amount it overscans seems to be too much (top and perhaps bottom are cut off). I have Option "TVVScan" "over" in Device
[21:50:26] sigger_: and Option "TVOverscan" "0.5" in Monitor. that right?
[21:50:33] sigger_: or should I be mucking about with the modelines?
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[21:50:48] bcnx: Hi all
[21:51:06] Juski: sigger_: not on via stuff, no
[21:51:15] Juski: cesman: yeah another update coming up
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[21:51:33] bcnx: does anyone have this particular problem: with mythTV 0.20 I get very high CPU while watching TV, but only when imythfrontend is in foreground
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[21:55:46] Bogus8: silly question I'm sure but what is the most stable, easiest to install distro for mythtv with a PVR 150 card?
[21:56:04] kormoc: can of worms, meet Bogus8
[21:56:10] Bogus8: lol :)
[21:56:23] xris: ok, Juski, sounds like you're "in" if you want the job.  :)
[21:56:36] kormoc: Fedora has a great guide, and then there's Knoppmyth and mythdora for the out of the box stuff
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[21:57:23] Bogus8: I have ver .18 installed on a FC3 box but it hasn't been turned on in a LONG time (no sat reciever) so I'm going to redo the box completely and I know the PVR 150 driver was a hassle back in the day
[21:57:23] Juski: xris: that'll mean keeping all the themes up to date with svn too?
[21:57:36] ** cesman waits for juski befoore building a new ISO **
[21:57:43] xris: not sure. You can probably work that out with the other devs.
[21:57:58] xris: feel free to pop into #mythtv and chat with isaac
[21:58:05] sigger_: Juski, sorry, i know you're busy redoing your site, but what stuff should I be mucking with? modelines or TVOverscan?
[21:58:14] Juski: sigger_: neither
[21:58:20] Juski: just resize the mythtv gui
[21:58:31] Juski: see the section in the wiki about overscan
[21:58:32] sigger_: ooooooh
[21:58:42] sigger_: cool will do. many thanks
[21:58:58] Juski: if you get the sides to match your tv, you invariably end up with the top or bottom left over – or vice-versa
[21:59:50] sigger_: thanks. just trying to get closer than the +/-15% it was underscanned
[21:59:58] Bogus8: what about for the IR blaster? any distro's more compatiple than others? (I never got my IR blaster working before)
[22:01:52] Juski: caitlin: if you take a look at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/justin.hornsby2/4by3music.png again you might like it :)
[22:02:24] ** caitlin peers myopically **
[22:02:30] caitlin: you aint playing my band...
[22:02:32] cesman: Bogus8: w/ KnoppMyth, we try and make blasting just work
[22:03:01] Juski: time to generate another tarball then
[22:03:04] Bogus8: cesman: cool, I'll check it out
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[22:04:37] Juski: jees it's after 10pm
[22:04:53] Juski: don't expect much work out of my tomorrow night though. oh no
[22:04:54] Juski: :)
[22:04:56] caitlin: :P
[22:05:02] caitlin: slacker
[22:05:21] Juski: I'll me quaffing Whisky & getting hammerred with Jools
[22:05:30] caitlin: IT'S NOT LIVE
[22:05:33] caitlin: the LYInG BASTARD
[22:05:40] caitlin: stupid jools
[22:05:41] caitlin: grrrr
[22:05:51] Juski: who cares?
[22:06:01] caitlin: well, fair point
[22:06:06] caitlin: but i like integrity in music
[22:07:47] Juski: best thing on telly tomorrow night and we ain't risking the local hostelries
[22:08:32] caitlin: you could come over here and play "don't let caitlin make me tweek her pc" :oP
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[22:09:42] flewid: sup
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[22:10:11] Juski: right now where was I? oh yeah laughing at IE's attempt at rendering css
[22:10:30] Jaak_: while wathcing live tv, it records what i am watching, does he store it on the frontend or backed like all the rest
[22:10:31] flewid: i've a weird question – about 10 minutes ago, everything looked great on mythfrontend, now I've enabled xvideo within the server, (i'm using a radeon), and when i start mythfrontend everything still looks great
[22:10:48] flewid: but as soon as i go watch tv, the screen looks like it's i dunno 4:4 instead of 4:3
[22:10:53] Juski: Jaak_: the latter
[22:10:55] flewid: and the bottom half looks cut off like 10" or something
[22:11:11] Juski: flewid: welcome to ATI's implementation of XV.. or something
[22:11:20] flewid: juski: :(
[22:11:30] flewid: previously in the guide, the overlay wasn't working at all
[22:11:33] flewid: now it's working great
[22:11:39] flewid: so it's so darn close ! :)
[22:11:42] xris: Juski: come be social in #mythtv.. I want to get your themes into svn.  :)
[22:11:44] Jaak_: Juski, the what?
[22:12:11] Juski: Jaak_: on the backend :)
[22:12:54] Jaak_: oki thanks
[22:13:00] flewid: juski: is there a way to like specify that overlay comes in at 800x600 ?
[22:13:14] flewid: right now it looks to be about 1024/768 or something, but my screen is only showing 800x600 portion
[22:13:29] Juski: flewid: not being an ATI owner I dunno. google around abit
[22:13:31] flewid: it's pushed off to the right and bottom, but the left and top look proper
[22:13:34] Jaak_: Ok, one of my frontend isn't showing the recordings i made, allthough other frontends do!? How come?
[22:13:36] flewid: jus: yah, have
[22:13:41] flewid: last resort = irc
[22:13:45] flewid: ati is teh sux
[22:14:03] Jaak_: But it does show the things i watched....
[22:18:21] flewid: i wonder if i try 640/480
[22:18:22] flewid: hrmf
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[22:19:16] Jaak_: one front end shows in the planning that i recorded it but i can't watch it because it doesnt show up in the medialibrary.... but the show i watched do....
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[22:19:59] Jaak_: on other frontend everything shows up fine
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[22:21:43] meisterwinter: hi
[22:21:55] flewid: hmm no that no work
[22:22:06] flewid: maybe if i set x to 640x480
[22:23:13] flewid: so close yet so far :(
[22:25:54] flewid: hmm
[22:25:58] flewid: yeah, that makes no diff apparently
[22:26:41] SeaWeed: ok my mythtv is crash soon as i start tv can some 1 help on this here is error i see http://pastebin.com/848103
[22:26:48] SeaWeed: acts like it is recording
[22:26:51] SeaWeed: not shure why
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[22:27:56] Juski: SeaWeed: mythtv records everything
[22:28:01] SeaWeed: Oh
[22:28:11] SeaWeed: so it is like live buffer all time
[22:28:11] groogs_: I removed some of my channels, but mythtv still has recordings scheduled on them (and still records them, even though it just gets static).. how can i tell it to reschedule all recordings?
[22:28:43] SeaWeed: Ok well it open Channel display then crashs on me
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[22:29:47] netrix: in the latest version of mythweb the links have changed from myth:// to http:// which causes my browser to download them instead of just playing them via dsmyth. why is this?
[22:29:55] _tripppy: how do i get mythweb working?
[22:30:02] netrix: lol
[22:30:09] netrix: _tripppy: whats wrong with it?
[22:30:46] _tripppy: the login pass doesnt seem to work. but when it does it goes to a error page with php errrors and stuff.
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[22:31:29] netrix: _tripppy: did you modify the .htaccess file with the correct login for your mythtv db?
[22:31:44] Jack3: hey guys, I was wondering what distro you recomend for a noob
[22:31:51] Jack3: I have used Mandrake before, but thats it
[22:31:57] netrix: Jack3: pff... tough question.
[22:32:03] netrix: Jack3: I'd say Ubuntu.
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[22:32:20] netrix: Jack3: Setup a myth system the other day on 6.10 edgy, so easy.
[22:32:47] Jack3: edgy? I dunno even know what that is?
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[22:33:00] Milosch: latest ubuntu
[22:33:03] Jack3: oh
[22:33:14] netrix: Jack3: what Milosch said.
[22:33:17] Milosch: is what i am using also
[22:33:46] netrix: i don't use any distro but Ubuntu these days, i know it and like it so it's perfect.
[22:34:25] caitlin: we use debian at work (for the stable... boring boring) and ubumtin for workstations and all my home pcs
[22:34:30] caitlin: ubuntu is brown love
[22:34:35] caitlin: and you can quote me on that
[22:34:42] _tripppy: netrix, yes i belive so
[22:34:50] Jack3: lol
[22:35:01] Jack3: so it should be suitable for someone who doesnt know much about linux?
[22:35:03] Paladine: well this should be fun
[22:35:14] Paladine: I will be reinstalling mythtv from scratch later tonight
[22:35:19] Jack3: I totally forgot everything about linux
[22:35:37] netrix: _trippy: well i would check in there and make sure the login and password are correct for the db. make sure it matches with /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt
[22:35:41] caitlin: Jack3, http://parker1.co.uk/mythtv_ubuntu.php
[22:35:47] netrix: _trippy: plus your error description is vague.
[22:36:09] Jack3: cool, thanks caitlin
[22:38:08] _tripppy: netrix, i have no time now. ill be back in 8 hrs. after work.
[22:39:00] netrix: so anyone know why the mythweb behaviour has changed in the latest version? one thing I notice is the links are http:// instead of myth://. on my old system i can open any recorded program and just watch it using dsmyth.
[22:39:07] netrix: _trippy: ok.
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[22:39:50] netrix: the new version is an http:// link which causes my browser to download the mpg file instead of streaming (?) it to via dsmyth.
[22:40:04] flewid: anyone know if i can set the XV display window size?
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[23:02:23] j2: Hm, with the emeging uPnP-support, is there a decent appliance that will play myth-recordings?
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[23:06:20] GreyFoxx: heh
[23:06:37] GreyFoxx: There are some listed on the wiki I believe
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[23:21:07] sinisterguy: hello, i'm trying to install mythtv on an ubuntu box. I've install the mythtv meta-package but i got some database errors, so then i imported the mc.sql file. that got me through mythtv-setup but now when i try to start mythtv-backend, i get this error: http://pastebin.ca/297244
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[23:24:20] jared555: is it possible to point mythtv/dvd to a directory full of decrypted dvd backups?
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[23:25:02] caitlin: is russell brand gay?
[23:25:35] brendan__: hi, i have a PVR-150 mpeg card, and recordings from that card are huge
[23:25:43] brendan__: about 900mb for a 1/2 hour
[23:26:19] jared555: caitlin, if that was a yes.... how do you set it up?
[23:26:32] brendan__: is there something i can do to create smaller files?
[23:27:36] caitlin: set what up?
[23:28:03] caitlin: oh i see
[23:28:04] caitlin: lol
[23:28:05] caitlin: no
[23:28:06] Jack3: lol
[23:28:13] caitlin: it was a genuine question
[23:30:22] jared555: lol
[23:31:15] jared555: well anyone know the answer to my question?
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[23:33:02] xris: jared555: use mythvideo
[23:33:30] xris: sinisterguy: -v all
[23:33:46] xris: brendan__: recording profiles
[23:33:54] ** jared555 goes and looks at that **
[23:34:13] jared555: would mythvideo handle all the dvd menus, etc.?
[23:34:20] xris: jared555: just make sure you use the internal player instead of xine
[23:34:35] xris: and yeah, the internal player has some of the best dvd menu support out there (should be the same used by mythdvd)
[23:34:58] jared555: this should be fun.... heh
[23:35:41] jared555: same with tv series, etc. that are already in xvid or another one of those formats? (or can I put them in the tv thing?)
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[23:35:55] brendan__: xris, chaning the bitrate will chang ethe file size right?
[23:36:03] xris: yes
[23:36:08] xris: lower bitrate, smaller files
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[23:36:32] xris: jared555: that's what mythvideo is for.  :)
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[23:38:37] jared555: so do I have to tell it look in /location/*/VIDEO_TS/ or will it auto scan?
[23:38:55] jared555: might run a mythtv backend on an old system
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[23:44:24] jared555: might manage to talk my parents into a computer in the living room lmao
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[23:58:36] caitlin: is there a way to tell mythtv to start transcoding something, without having to start watching the thing and selecting it in a menu?

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