Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Monday, December 25th, 2006, 00:00 UTC

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mchou:

but he is obviously the "prime suspect"

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mchou:

"If the glove doesnt fit, you must acquit!"

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sigger_:

does reiser (i.e. whatever's for sale) have any commercial product or any revenue

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Jasper:

huh?

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mchou:

oops, I'm sorry your honor, wrong trial.

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threedaymonk:

WOOOHOOO

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Jasper:

what's up with reiserFS?

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** threedaymonk set backend server ip to192.168.0.131 instead of 127.0.0.1 and it all works **

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mishehu:

Jasper: want to buy Namesys?

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mchou:

jams: more like what's up with Hans Reiser :)

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mishehu:

you can get a great deal on it

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threedaymonk:

I had been playing around with another client, and had changed that setting, but I only just rebooted

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Jasper:

mishehu ?

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mishehu:

I almost would, except I know little about filesystems.

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mishehu:

other than what the diffs are.

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Jasper:

reiserfs uses the tree system if I recall correctly :P

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mishehu:

Jasper: it's for sale to cover hans' legal fees

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Jasper:

some kind of tree system that is

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Jasper:

what did he do?

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mishehu:

Jasper: donno, it's still up in the air. his wife is missing, it *appears* to be a homicide, and he's a suspect.

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mchou:

Jasper: it is alleged that he killed his wife

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sigger_:

can you imagine when Reiser is acquitted or released if you've bought the co? "Either your signature or your brains will be on the contract."

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mchou:

sigger: haha!!

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Jasper:

damn

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mchou:

sigger: is Hans that much of a thug? :)

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Jasper:

computer programmers are sick people

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Jasper:

:p

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sigger_:

I truly don't know him and I doubt it. Just borrowing a Godfather line

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mchou:

Jasper: the sick part is his wife is Russian :)

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sigger_:

the pwnfather perhaps

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mishehu:

that was his first mistake

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mishehu:

I've known too many russians in my life ;-)

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mchou:

mishehu: why you say that?

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sigger_:

ah, or sufather

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mishehu:

mchou: I prefer not to delve into that, for fear of insulting people who belong to that nationality and are not deserving of the cynical comments that I might have ;-)

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Jasper:

good idea

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Jasper:

I did that once about french people in gentoo-uk :P

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Jasper:

result wasn't nice

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mchou:

haha, how did the frogs respond?

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mishehu:

Jasper: your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberries!

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Jasper:

mishehu are you french?

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Jasper:

:P

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mishehu:

Jasper: hell no.

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mishehu:

just making a french referrence in pop culture.

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mishehu:

who doesn't know monty python?

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Jasper:

I do know him

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Jasper:

but not that certain line

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mishehu:

him?

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mishehu:

it's not a him persay

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mishehu:

Jasper: The Quest for the Holy Grail

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Jasper:

yeah

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Jasper:

I've seen that

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Jasper:

several times in fact

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** mishehu farts in Jasper's general direction **

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mchou:

wodden rabbit?

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rexer:

hello?

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rexer:

when i do a mythfilldatabase 2>&1 > mythfillerror10.. i still see QSqlQuery::exec: database not open

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rexer:

cat mythfillerror10

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rexer:

Can't connect to MySQL server on 'unknown' (111)

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rexer:

unknown is the name of my box... sorry...

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rexer:

2006-12–24 18:44:55.227 Failed to init MythContext, exiting.

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Octane:

is there some sort of guide for setting up mythtv w/ an hdtv/plasma

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Dr_willis:

Hmm.. how would that differ from using it with a normal tv?

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kormoc:

Octane, hook it up to the dvi output of your videocard and pretend it's a monitor?

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Dr_willis:

My old Plasma tv i had a few yrs back had dvi :) was nifty.

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Dr_willis:

you may have to set the modelines corrctly in the X configs

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rexer:

grrrr...

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rexer:

dangit.. falid to open db..

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rexer:

where is the mysqlconfiguration file?

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rexer:

gota put in a Webmin config

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rexer:

/etc/mysql/my.cnf

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rexer:

i see mythconverg in the Database Permissions.

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scott__:

merry christmas

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rexer:

where is MySQL shared libraries directory

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rexer:

dangit.. rboot

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rexer:

emerged dev-perl/DBI

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Scopeuk_:

sweet serious sam 2 is being ported to linux

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rexer:

emerge dev-perl/DBD-mysql

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rexer:

now i see a database mythconverg with 46 tables...

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rexer:

under UserPermissions i see..

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rexer:

User Hosts Encrypted password Permissions

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rexer:

Anonymous unknown None

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rexer:

Anonymous localhost None

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rexer:

mythtv localhost *CC8F35F587CA5A556B4132C2407E556D92172FFC None

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rexer:

root localhost *5A1825E7EFC4AA93BE7CB845B0EDAAF9163FD3EE All

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rexer:

root unknown All

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rexer:

now i changed it to...

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rexer:

User Hosts Encrypted password Permissions

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rexer:

Anonymous unknown None

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rexer:

Anonymous localhost None

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rexer:

mythtv localhost *CC8F35F587CA5A556B4132C2407E556D92172FFC None

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rexer:

root localhost *0BD2E0C81FF3676F116DC32719D547B2F8633059 All

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rexer:

errrgg...

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rexer:

do you have to have a computer science degree to get it working...?

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rexer:

all i want to do is watch /record tv on my linuxbox..

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rexer:

kernel...

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rexer:

Linux version 2.6.17.13 (root@unknown) (gcc version 3.4.6 (Gentoo Hardened 3.4.6-r1, ssp-3.4.5–1.0, pie-8.7.9)) #22 Wed Nov 1 13:59:52 CST 2006

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rexer:

total used free shared buffers cached

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rexer:

Mem: 186 155 30 0 12 97

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rexer:

-/+ buffers/cache: 45 140

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rexer:

Swap: 219 0 219

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rexer:

megs..

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rexer:

model name : Pentium III (Coppermine)

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rexer:

bttv0: detected: Prolink Pixelview PV-BT [card=72], PCI subsystem ID is 1554:4011

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rexer:

bttv0: using: Prolink Pixelview PV-BT878P+9B (PlayTV Pro rev.9B FM+NICAM) [card=72,autodetected]

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rexer:

AUmix working... XAWTV working...

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rexer:

SQL installed???

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kormoc:

rexer, you know, you shouldn't be flooding the channel like that, you'll get banned if you keep it up

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kormoc:

rexer, and second, why not start with a distro that is a bit easier? you picked gentoo, which is designed to be used by professionals, not people new to linux or system administration

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rexer:

kormoc: i thought gentoo was supposed to be easy...

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kormoc:

it is, if you know what you are doing already

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rexer:

it all started with kernel 2.4... alright.. and its been an ongoing task of compiling.. /re-compiling ... and emerging.. packages packages...

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rexer:

mhmm... reboot again...

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Milosch:

oof

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dmz:

hey y'all, i just did an upgrade on my system and now all of my videos with extensions handled by the internal player don't have sound! It worked before upgrade & I know it's looping from pvr -> sound card as when i play other videos that work it plays (and stops sound if i unplug line-in)

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rexer:

i think i need the realtime module in kernel..

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rexer:

or as module?

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rexer:

ill try module first..

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dmz:

so .avi that play with xine have sound and others (.mpg & .vob) that are played with internal player play but have no sound

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dmz:

daughter is about to kill me w/out her videos :(

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dmz:

noone :(

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rexer:

anything can be easy.. one catch.. you have to know what your doing...

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dmz:

wierd i guess the internal mythtv player can't handle all .iso and other formats anymore

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GreyFoxx:

the internal player hasn't "Stopped" handling any formats

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Zider:

if it really is a standard .iso it should work, otherwise it has the wrong filename :P

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crudpuppy:

welp, I need to get a better lirc file for this streamzap remote apparently

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dmz:

it was working then i did an upgrade then it stopped

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dmz:

i disabled all internal player and went back to xine and it's working again

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crudpuppy:

not many of the buttons work

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crudpuppy:

lol

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crudpuppy:

I can get into menus, but exit doesnt work to get back out

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GreyFoxx:

dmz: Since your upgrade can you playback normal recordings ?

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dmz:

yes

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dmz:

but not iso or old nuv or some .mpg stuff, doesn't work with internal player & sound on file in the "video" folder

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GreyFoxx:

what is the audio codec of the stuff that wont play?

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GreyFoxx:

ok, varied codecs then

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dmz:

worked great before, works great w/xine now

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dmz:

should i try something other than xine? I'd like to better control jumping around, choosing chapters, etc

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jd86:

my mysql was so old, so I updated it ons erver, and now i'm getting messages from backend database error that the authentication method isn't supported update client, and i'm updating mysql, will I need to recompile qt?

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dmz:

one other question are .mkv formats supported in myth? if not any "easy" way to convert?

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GreyFoxx:

jd86: If you change major revisions then yes you need to update QT

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jd86:

wonderful :(

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GreyFoxx:

so if you go from 4.0 -> 4.1~ or 5.0 you need to update qt

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jd86:

i went from 4.1 to 5.0

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GreyFoxx:

yeah update/recompile qt

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jd86:

(methinks i need to do this for php?)

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jd86:

(but i should probably ask that in php not here )

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kormoc:

on gentoo?

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GreyFoxx:

dmz: Myth supports whatever ffmpeg/libavcodec supports. N idea if it handles mkv as I've never had one to try it

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jd86:

kormoc, yes

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kormoc:

jd86, if you emerge gentoolkit, and run revdep-rebuild, it will find and re-emerge any packages that the mysql update broke

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Blaksmith:

Hi.. got an odd error.. everything compiled and installed fine, but when I fire up mythtv-setup, (or anything related to mythtv), I get mythtv: error while loading shared libraries: libmythtv-0.20.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

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Zider:

revdep-rebuild

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Blaksmith:

but, the file IS there..

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jd86:

kormoc, oh yay!!

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kormoc:

:)

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Zider:

oh, too late :D

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GreyFoxx:

Though to the xine or not question I can't really say. I use the internal player for all playback except for .mp4 files. Myth supports the video on those but no tthe AAC audio codec

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GreyFoxx:

so for recordings, dvds and all videos ot her than mp4 I use the Internal player, for mp4 I use mplayer

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Blaksmith:

that lib is in my /usr/local/lib dir

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jd86:

oh wow this is going to be alot

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Zider:

GreyFoxx: do you happen to know if it's a known problem that dvd playback stutters at scene switches when it's set to 4:3 zoom or 16:9 zoom?

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GreyFoxx:

Zider: I've heard mention of some people seeing stutter at scene changes, regardless of zoom

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GreyFoxx:

I've personally never seen it

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Zider:

GreyFoxx: I only getit in zoom modes, not in "default" mode..

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GreyFoxx:

Zider: Sounds bugtrac worthy

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Blaksmith:

I have done ldconfig to re-load the lib db, and even rebooted as a suggestion by someone else. .. any help would be appreciated :)

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GreyFoxx:

especially if you can mention aspecific DVD it always happens on

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Zider:

and it's a celeron 2,6GHz so it shouldn't be a hardware issue

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kormoc:

Blaksmith, if you run ldconfig -v it should output every lib it finds, can you make sure it's in that list?

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Zider:

GreyFoxx: I could test it someday, to see if any dvd's are "lag free"

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Blaksmith:

lemme try that kormoc

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Zider:

GreyFoxx: and I guess I'd better learn how to do bug reports.. ;)

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Blaksmith:

apparently, it's not

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Blaksmith:

I think I may see why.. debian wants it in /usr/lib, not /usr/local/lib

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Blaksmith:

ok, it fired up

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Blaksmith:

thanks :)

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kormoc:

your welcome :)

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Blaksmith:

now I just have to get my mysql runnin lol.. I could use my remote server too hahahh

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jblack:

myth here is creaking under the load of all the christmas movies that got recorded.

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Blaksmith:

haha

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jblack:

I had to cut back on the commercial detection and start deleting the stuff I like. :(

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abarbaccia:

anybody know why alsa access to a sound card would work but OSS not?

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gza:

I have knoppmyth setup and working with tv output (using pvr 350) but I don't get any sound when putting .avi files into /myth/video/ ?

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`shr00m:

what avi player r u using?

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gza:

watching tv works 100% (full sound and everything). and avi files play 100% perfect picture no sound though

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gza:

`shr00m: I think it's mplayer

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`shr00m:

try mplayer -ao alsa

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kormoc:

gza, mplayer doesn't support the audio codec?

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gza:

whatever is the default on knoppmyth

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gza:

never been a fan of mplayer (more of a vlc guy)

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Blaksmith:

hrm.. is there any file to make the tables for mythconverg?

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gza:

gonna upload an .mpg see if that makes a difference

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kormoc:

gza, you could try the internal player (if it's myth 0.20 or so)

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kormoc:

Blaksmith, mc.sql

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`shr00m:

try playing the avi w/o myth just with mplayer with -ao alsa switch

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Blaksmith:

that only created the db, but didn't make any tables

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kormoc:

Blaksmith, when you run mythtv-setup, it will populate tables

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Blaksmith:

ok

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kormoc:

or at least, it should :P

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`shr00m:

anyone here know why playing back an HDTV channel results in cracked video which eventually crashes mythfrontend in under a minute?

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Blaksmith:

it's not.. :(

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Blaksmith:

I verified username/pass

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kormoc:

what's it say?

[03:27:52]

Blaksmith:

and that's working, but the output is: No error type from QSqlError? Strange...

[03:27:52]

Blaksmith:

2006-12–24 19:26:59.199 Failed to init MythContext, exiting.

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kormoc:

Blaksmith, could you but up the entire output into a pastebin?

[03:29:34]

`shr00m:

is there somethign better than ffmpeg to play back HDTV ?

[03:30:37]

Blaksmith:

getting a good paste.. hang on

[03:31:22]

jd86:

Just like my error which I'll have until qt remerges, which will take ages

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Blaksmith:

http://pastebin.ca/291380

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kormoc:

Blaksmith, what distro is this?

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Blaksmith:

debian

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gza:

tried mplayer -ao alsa but no sound

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kormoc:

Blaksmith, can you see if you have a file called libqsqlmysql.so on your system?

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gza:

default player is "mplayer -fs -zoom -quiet -vo xv %s"

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Blaksmith:

no it's not..

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kormoc:

Blaksmith, okay, that's the qt mysql driver, you need it to use myth

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Blaksmith:

ok :) lemme install that

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Blaksmith:

and of course synaptic doesn't have it lol... google here I come

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kormoc:

libqt3-mt-mysql perhaps?

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Blaksmith:

ok, installing libqt3c102-mt-mysql :)

[03:36:48]

Blaksmith:

thanks

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Blaksmith:

ok, that is doing something now hehe

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gza:

Ok what's the command for the default myth video player?

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kormoc:

it's Internal I believe

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kormoc:

with a capital I

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Blaksmith:

ok, now to put the card in the box hehe.. just got the card today :) Hauppauge pvr-150 :)

[03:42:46]

Blaksmith:

is it normal to lose my mouse when running it?

[03:43:03]

kormoc:

yes, myth was ment to be used with a remote

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Blaksmith:

ahh ok

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kormoc:

there's an option to enable the mouse cursor, but it won't be able to navigate the menus

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Blaksmith:

now, once I get it all set up, I should be able to view from a different machine too?

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kormoc:

aye

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gza:

kormoc: hmm...picture looks great but still no sound. :( Could I convert the .avi file to myth's native file format (.nuv ?)

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kormoc:

gza, you should likely convert it to mpeg or similar honestly

[03:49:53]

gza:

kormoc: hmmm...ok I used Internal with the one mpg I have, and the sound is good now but the picture is jaggedy/artifact like hell.

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kormoc:

is it a small res video?

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Blaksmith:

ok, bbiab after installing the card

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gza:

kormoc: no...full length movie...displayed on TV through pvr-350

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kormoc:

hrm

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kormoc:

could be the pvr 350's tv out screwing up

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gza:

yeah but the picture is perfect with mplayer playing both .avi and mpeg outputting through the pvr-350.

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gza:

I can install vlc using apt-get right?

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kormoc:

likely

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gza:

I have a feeling mplayer doesn't have all the codecs....which is why I like vlc's out of the box playability.

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Blaksmith:

ok, got the card installed.. now to set it up hehe

[04:34:07]

Blaksmith:

ok, brain fart... driver name for the vid capture?

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Blaksmith:

bttv84 or something like that?

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Milosch:

driver 'should be' ivtv

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Blaksmith:

ahh ok

[04:43:04]

Milosch:

kormoc: depending on the driver version there was a fix for that recently

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Milosch:

in my case it was high cpu usage in mythfrontend

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Blaksmith:

eeps.. I have kernel 2.6.8... heh can't use the latest ivtv

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Blaksmith:

hrm... I have 2.6.8, but ivtv .4.9 errors out tellin me that my kernel is > 2.6.15

[04:57:26]

Blaksmith:

any way to fake it out?

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Blaksmith:

found a way heh.. had to edit the makefile

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Blaksmith:

hrm.. I don't have a video0

[05:10:20]

Blaksmith:

or any kind of vid devices in /dev/ :(

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kormoc:

you sure your ivtv loaded properly?

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kormoc:

dmesg will hold the output of the driver attempt to load

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Blaksmith:

ivtv0: unable to open firmware v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw (must be 262144 bytes)

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Blaksmith:

hrm..

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kormoc:

ahh

[05:15:53]

kormoc:

sounds like you need the firmware files

[05:16:31]

kormoc:

http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Firmware

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Blaksmith:

thanks

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sid:

If I have a dvdrw/cdrw/dvdrom drive($30USD), will it be faster to copy DVD movies if I have two of these drives?(ie it doesn't have to write the dvd to the hard disk, or will it not matter if I have two?

[05:21:34]

kormoc:

well

[05:21:41]

kormoc:

you can burn slower then you can read

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sid:

right

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kormoc:

so really, you're only saving the copy to the drive the first time

[05:22:02]

sid:

But I still skip the step of writing the whole thing to disc, no?

[05:22:14]

kormoc:

but at the cost that if the read errors out near the end, you have a partial burned dvd

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sid:

er

[05:22:20]

sid:

But I still skip the step of writing the whole thing to hard disk, no?

[05:22:22]

kormoc:

yeah

[05:23:53]

sid:

Can MythTV do this by default?(if someone has two drives)

[05:25:20]

sid:

Can I turn a dell laptop into a mythtv box?

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kormoc:

myth doesn't really burn disks itself

[05:25:55]

kormoc:

and sure, a laptop would work fine if you had a capture card for it

[05:27:53]

Blaksmith:

ivtv0: Initialized WinTV PVR 150, card #0

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Blaksmith:

wooot!

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kormoc:

:)

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sid:

kormoc: I don't have a capture card for it.

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kormoc:

sid, then it's a little hard to capture tv isn't it?

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sid:

Are there usb capture devices or something?

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kormoc:

likely

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kormoc:

could google a bit and see what's out there

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Blaksmith:

hrm.. saying I can't watch live tv... I'm using the composite in from my stb (till I get the coax made to run the length)

[05:35:43]

Blaksmith:

says it's using all the resources .. please delete one if I want to use live

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Blaksmith:

err watch live

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kormoc:

check the watch recordings screen, see if there's one recording alreadyu

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sid:

ok, Christmas finally came. I got an iPod and some accessories with it, that totals about $430 USD

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sid:

Can I make a decent MythTV box out of this?

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sid:

(when I return this non-free commodity hardware)

[05:54:34]

kormoc:

sure

[05:54:46]

kormoc:

just might take you awhile to port it

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sid:

no, for $430 USD can I make a decent MythTV box

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kormoc:

likely

[05:56:58]

kormoc:

perhaps you might have to cover a little more

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kormoc:

if you buy used hardware, should be simple enough

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Neeesat25:

MERRY CHRISTMAS to all

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Blaksmith:

hrm.... getting black screen with errors on backend

[06:15:18]

Blaksmith:

2006-12–24 22:14:11.183 Finished recording : channel 4294967295

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Blaksmith:

what kind of channel # is that? hehe

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Neeesat25:

I try to open liveTV with ivtv driver and I got: Unknown video codec

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Neeesat25:

and also NVR: Won't work with the streaming interface, falling back

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Neeesat25:

VIDIOCGMBUF:: Invalid argument

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rexer:

im back again....

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** rexer shurgs **

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rexer:

ive compiled mythtv again..

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rexer:

and compiled qt again...

[06:19:37]

rexer:

what now...

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rexer:

Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'unknown' (using password: YES)

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Blaksmith:

looks like settings in your mythtv-setup window for mysql

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rexer:

can mythtv-setup be X forwarded.. or doihave to goto the console..

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Blaksmith:

not sure.. i'm new to this too

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Zider:

rexer: all X apps can, afaik

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Blaksmith:

but, I know enough of mysql to tell that it should be 'mythtv'@'localhost' (or whatever server you have mysql running on)

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rexer:

mythtv-setup doesnt run anymore..

[06:23:51]

Blaksmith:

2006-12–24 22:23:19.681 MPEGRec(/dev/video24) Error: select timeout – ivtv driver has stopped responding

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Blaksmith:

:(

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rexer:

Blaksmith: im kinda new..well.. long time of a non working installation...

[06:26:11]

rexer:

i was able to get the mythtv-setup to runn.. now it just spews out error messges..

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Blaksmith:

:(

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rexer:

Zider: xterm works.. firefox works... mythtv-setup not being forwarded.. explain that...?

[06:40:49]

rexer:

Zider: even with a --geometry 800x600

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kormoc:

are you doing just x forward or trusted x forward?

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kormoc:

cause myth requires trusted x forwarding (-Y rather then -X to the ssh command line)

[06:41:25]

rexer:

great.. another layer of troubleshooting..

[06:41:42]

kormoc:

welcome to linux and gentoo

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rexer:

hmm.. to test out what i have is still working.. what apps should i run?

[06:43:16]

rexer:

xawtv....hold....

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rexer:

xawtv... check..

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rexer:

audio.... uhh.. stream something using mpg123...

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Neeesat25:

Anyone knows how to fix this after I get Unknown video codec : NVR: Won't work with the streaming interface, falling back VIDIOCGMBUF:: Invalid argument

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Blaksmith:

hrm.. xawtv is giving me odd issues.. can't see anything :(

[07:05:59]

Neeesat25:

oops I had wrong Capture card

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sid:

Is there a buyers guide on MythTV's website?

[07:11:06]

GreyFoxx:

I don't think I'

[07:11:10]

GreyFoxx:

ve ever noticed one

[07:11:24]

GreyFoxx:

There might be some sort of anecdotal stuff on the wiki maybe

[07:11:46]

GreyFoxx:

Maybe stuff linked off of here http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardware

[07:14:43]

sid:

I have a box with a gig of RAM, and a 2.4 ghz intel processor, with asus P4G8X deluxe motherboard. Am I able to get a card with two outputs, and have one output to my monitor, and another to the tv?

[07:15:02]

sid:

Then I don't have to buy another box, and I can run MythTV and Gnome at the same time and use it for both at the same time.

[07:16:23]

GreyFoxx:

Just about any nvidia video card will have multiple outputs these days

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kormoc:

Blaksmith, the pvr cards like the 150/250/350/500 are not supported by xawtv

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kormoc:

Blaksmith, you can test them via having mplayer/xine play /dev/video0

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Blaksmith:

ahh ok

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sid:

GreyFoxx: So this is feasible?

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kormoc:

sid, sure, you can do that fine, just remember, your keyboard/mouse will be shared between the displays

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GreyFoxx:

sid: Yup, configure controls to not conflict is your biggest problem

[07:18:24]

GreyFoxx:

if you are good with X configuration then it's not hard

[07:18:26]

sid:

Can't I just have a remote with lirc, and have the remote only access MythTV stuff?

[07:18:43]

sid:

And have the keyboard only access non-mythtv stuff.

[07:19:06]

sid:

awesome, I'm going to do it like that then.

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kormoc:

sid, you can get lirc to only control the frontend, for sure

[07:19:21]

kormoc:

sid, but the keyboard will follow focus/mouse

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GreyFoxx:

You can't tell myth to ignore the keyboard, as as long as myth dpoesn't have screen focus IT's fine. Or use a second X server and run myth in that

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GreyFoxx:

X server 1 uses VGA/DVI output + keybvoard

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GreyFoxx:

X server 2 uses TV out

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sid:

yea, I'll just use blackbox with an X server, and fireup myth in that

[07:20:03]

GreyFoxx:

they canm be totally seperate enviconments

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sid:

there are lots of combinations of ways I can do it, this seems possible.

[07:20:13]

GreyFoxx:

yup

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kormoc:

GreyFoxx, I didn't think nvidia cards supported entirely seperate X sessions on the same card?

[07:20:32]

GreyFoxx:

I used to do that temporarily bck when my maste rfrontend died

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kormoc:

%s/sessions/server/

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GreyFoxx:

my desktop doubled as desktop+ frontend

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sid:

I have a ati 9100 card(works awesome with free/libre "ati" driver from xorg), do I need a dualhead card? Or can I just get a tv-out card, and use two cards at the same time?

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GreyFoxx:

kormoc: I've done it in the past, so it should be doable

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kormoc:

fair nuff

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sid:

Or does it not work like that, you can only use one video out card at the same time? or is it more effecient to have a dual head nvidia card?

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GreyFoxx:

sid: In general we tell people to avoid ATI cards as the ati drivers tend to suck or be major pains to get going whereas the nvidia ones usually work very well and are often updated

[07:21:57]

Blaksmith:

couldn't find demux for >/dev/video0<

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sid:

GreyFoxx: But this is an older card, and I believe the registers are documented so xorg people wrote a driver for it fully supported.

[07:23:35]

GreyFoxx:

You are welcome to try, if it works for you great :)

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Blaksmith:

that was with xine

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kormoc:

Blaksmith, try mplayer?

[07:25:05]

Blaksmith:

mythbackend is off

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Blaksmith:

mplayer is complaining upon install

[07:25:36]

Blaksmith:

Depends: libaa1 (>=1.2) but it is not installable

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sid:

I could get two 320 gig barracuda's from seagate(5 year warranties with each), then a nvidia dual head card, a happauge capture card, ir, and I'm set.

[07:26:10]

sid:

What is a good nvidia dual head card to get?

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kormoc:

sid, I'd highly recommend the Microsoft Media Center remote. it's usb, also serves as an kickass blaster if you ever need one, and is a great remote

[07:26:29]

kormoc:

sid, I'd go for a 6200 or better

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GreyFoxx:

sid: When you say "dual head card" are you just referring to a card with a VGA/DVI + TV out ? Or something with dual dvi/vga's ?

[07:27:09]

sid:

GreyFoxx: Well I dunno, I have a planar monitor with vga in I think.

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GreyFoxx:

kormoc: Is that what you are using these days ?

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sid:

GreyFoxx: and my tv only has composite in.

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kormoc:

GreyFoxx, aye

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GreyFoxx:

Sid, so basically any nvidia card out there from the last 3 years :)

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sid:

kormoc: What is a "blaster"?

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GreyFoxx:

kormoc: Just to control the PC or is it a universal remote as well ?

[07:28:05]

kormoc:

sid, it's a ir trasmitter, I use it to control my satellite receiver so myth can record off of it.

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kormoc:

GreyFoxx, PC mostly, but it has programmable buttons for tv power and volume, which is all I need

[07:28:36]

GreyFoxx:

My grandmother wants me to hook her up so I need to snag a remote

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GreyFoxx:

cool

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sid:

maybe I'll switch to satelite, so I can get all the free channels, that still work?

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GreyFoxx:

That'd be fine for her too

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sid:

Can you write to your card and get all the channels?

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kormoc:

sid, no, I only get the channels I pay for

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GreyFoxx:

What free channels ? :)

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Blaksmith:

ok, stupid questino.. how to do you install a .deb file?

[07:30:15]

kormoc:

GreyFoxx, yeah, xris has in the contrib the lirc config he and I use for them, so little setup is needed. might need to tweak a little, but most people seem to get it right off the bat

[07:30:19]

sid:

Blaksmith: dpkg -i file.deb

[07:30:41]

sid:

What would be cool is integrated bittorrent so people in the MythTV community can share shows.

[07:30:42]

GreyFoxx:

Korm: Sweet

[07:30:46]

Blaksmith:

thanks

[07:30:51]

GreyFoxx:

sid: Never gonna happen

[07:30:51]

sid:

ie, if they forgot to schedule, and they already pay for the channels

[07:30:52]

xris:

sid: ever so slightly illegal

[07:30:54]

GreyFoxx:

we wont allow it

[07:31:08]

GreyFoxx:

there was a bittorrent client out there people used but it will never be official

[07:31:10]

sid:

Well it's free software, so people have the freedom to do what they want with it.

[07:31:38]

kormoc:

sid, sure, but the developers requested that we keep this channel free of illegal stuff, so sure, do what you want, but don't talk about it in here

[07:31:47]

sid:

k

[07:32:04]

xris:

sid: yes. but with bt, never any official support

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GreyFoxx:

Hey xris: Merry xmas :)

[07:32:34]

xris:

likewise. :)

[07:32:36]

GreyFoxx:

And same to everyone else

[07:32:44]

kormoc:

Marry Christmas!

[07:33:04]

GreyFoxx:

I should go back to bed since my little one will be up at some horribly early hour I'm sure

[07:33:10]

** kormoc laughs **

[07:33:13]

GreyFoxx:

but now I'm wide awake

[07:33:38]

kormoc:

Drink some warm milk?

[07:33:44]

GreyFoxx:

She's 2.5+, and knows understands Santa and Presents so this should be fun :)

[07:33:59]

kormoc:

It'll be priceless I'm sure :)

[07:34:15]

GreyFoxx:

We got a new digital camera for it

[07:34:34]

GreyFoxx:

my old one was dying and we wanted to get a lot of shots of this year :)

[07:34:49]

GreyFoxx:

the old one survived 9261 pics, not bad to me

[07:35:08]

kormoc:

yeah, not bad at all

[07:35:31]

kormoc:

Mine is only on 3000 or so

[07:36:07]

GreyFoxx:

hehe a significant portion of my photos came after she showed up :)

[07:36:17]

rexer:

Opps.. i changed to a Theme where i cant see the menu...

[07:36:22]

GreyFoxx:

<<-- Annoying dad who can't get enough pictures of his kid

[07:36:28]

** kormoc laughs **

[07:36:33]

GreyFoxx:

though I don't shove them in peoples faces to look at :)

[07:36:48]

sid:

I guess it's illegal depending on the country you live in.

[07:36:57]

GreyFoxx:

rexer: from an xterm/commandline restart mythfrontend with -O Theme=blue

[07:37:04]

kormoc:

sid, the majority of myth devs are in the US, so that's what we stick to in here

[07:37:13]

xris:

sid: and since this channel and most devs are in the US, we obey US laws.

[07:37:15]

sid:

ahh

[07:37:32]

sid:

But MythTV is probably violating thousands of patents, might as well do copyright law too. heh

[07:37:41]

kormoc:

likely not

[07:37:46]

sid:

not to say those patents should exist, they're crap..but technically still infringing.

[07:38:05]

xris:

sid: let's just say "we don't talk about it here" and leave it at that.

[07:38:10]

GreyFoxx:

No need to intentionally gain lawyers attention by officiall including support for something they like to sue you for :)

[07:38:14]

kormoc:

and patents are select-ably enforceable

[07:38:19]

sid:

same goes for copyright, not to say such a system(sharing with friends, society etc) should be illegal either. but technically it is.

[07:38:54]

GreyFoxx:

And either way, IRC channels are not democracies. Policies don;t need justification :)

[07:38:56]

kormoc:

so it's not actually illegal to do something that is patented until they tell you it's not, where as it's just illegal to violate a copy-right

[07:38:59]

** kormoc laughs **

[07:39:03]

kormoc:

so very true

[07:39:42]

sid:

I'm not trying to change policy, if the plugin already exists I have what I wanted anyway.

[07:39:59]

sid:

doesn't matter to me if it's officially supported or not, I just wanted to talk about it.(not to change policy)

[07:40:33]

xris:

sid: and the policy is not to talk about it. google exists for a reason

[07:40:42]

GreyFoxx:

Man, everytime I go looking for Myth hardware for someone I end up wanting to buy everything for me :)

[07:41:04]

xris:

GreyFoxx: I'd only have that problem if I had money. :)

[07:41:40]

GreyFoxx:

hehe I don't now, Santa came and claimed by bank accounts and credit cards

[07:42:25]

xris:

anyway, I'm crashing. 'night all.

[07:42:30]

kormoc:

night xris!

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sid:

sucks the way american laws are, they have free software community afraid in America, to even talk about programming software in a certain way.

[07:43:15]

rexer:

nope..

[07:43:23]

** rexer sighs... **

[07:43:29]

** GreyFoxx heads to bed too **

[07:43:30]

rexer:

re-init db...

[07:43:31]

GreyFoxx:

night

[07:43:35]

kormoc:

Night GreyFoxx!

[07:43:40]

sid:

peace GreyFoxx

[07:44:25]

Blaksmith:

ok, seeing if mplayer will compile from source

[07:46:26]

sid:

Blaksmith: Just apt-get build-dep mplayer; And get the source from mplayer's website.

[07:46:55]

sid:

Blaksmith: although the mplayer binary from marillat is very good, what is your reasoning for compiling from source?

[07:48:21]

Blaksmith:

because the libaa1 (one of the deps) won't install

[07:48:24]

Blaksmith:

even using apt-get

[07:48:50]

sid:

Blaksmith: What version of Debian GNU/Linux are you running?

[07:49:01]

Blaksmith:

Linux home 2.6.8-3–686 #1 Tue Dec 5 21:26:38 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux

[07:49:10]

sid:

Blaksmith: cat /etc/debian_version

[07:49:26]

Blaksmith:

3.1

[07:49:36]

sid:

ok, you're running sarge.

[07:49:49]

sid:

Blaksmith: Put your /etc/apt/sources.list file on www.rafb.net/paste

[07:50:52]

Blaksmith:

http://rafb.net/p/OkKTM997.html

[07:51:15]

sid:

ok, that is your problem

[07:51:30]

sid:

You have sarge(stable) sources for debian.org and you have sid(unstable) sources for marillat's website.

[07:51:56]

kormoc:

so sid is unstable eh? that's good to know

[07:52:01]

Blaksmith:

the last two were for trying to get myth installed

[07:52:02]

sid:

Blaksmith: Change "sid" to "sarge" in your sources.list file.

[07:52:09]

Blaksmith:

k

[07:52:23]

sid:

Blaksmith: Did you install packages from marillat already?

[07:52:58]

Blaksmith:

don't think so.. .I ended up doing everything by hand to get myth to install

[07:53:17]

sid:

Blaksmith: Once you've made the change; apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade; apt-get install mplayer-nogui;

[07:53:57]

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Blaksmith:

ok, it's installing

[07:54:54]

sid:

awesome, so you'll have mplayer in a second.

[07:55:13]

Blaksmith:

while that's doing it's thing.. I need to find out why my other box won't connect to my mysql db heh

[07:55:52]

Blaksmith:

mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libaa.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

[07:55:53]

Blaksmith:

wheeee

[07:55:55]

sid:

/etc/init.d/mysql status

[07:55:59]

sid:

Put that on rafb.net/paste

[07:56:32]

sid:

Blaksmith: updatedb; locate libaa.so.1;

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Blaksmith:

wheeeee updatedb will take about 30 min lol..

[07:56:57]

Blaksmith:

I just ran it overnight last night

[07:57:10]

sid:

nah, it takes about 2 minutes on my debian system.

[07:57:17]

sid:

unless you have 10 million files or something

[07:57:22]

Blaksmith:

I have 300g on this box

[07:57:38]

kormoc:

it only updates newer files then the last run

[07:57:41]

sid:

Well it doesn't matter how much data is on the drive, it's how many files.

[07:57:54]

Blaksmith:

millions of files

[07:58:01]

sid:

So you could have 10TB, and if it's only a few thousand files it should only take 3 minutes.

[07:58:40]

rexer:

does /var/lib/mysql grow in size with future usage?

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Blaksmith:

oh I know why libaa isn't there.. using synaptic took it out a few min ago

[07:59:28]

sid:

Blaksmith: dpkg -al|grep -i libaa

[07:59:43]

sid:

k

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kormoc:

rexer, sure does, the data has to go somewhere

[08:00:31]

Blaksmith:

iU libaa1 1.4p5–30 ascii art library

[08:00:40]

sid:

So it isn't installed properly.

[08:00:46]

Blaksmith:

nope ;(

[08:00:56]

rexer:

hmm... my boot hd is running at 91%usage..

[08:00:56]

sid:

probably because you manually installed it from somewhere?

[08:01:01]

sid:

apt-get intall --reinstall libaa1

[08:01:42]

rexer:

then i need to redirect that dir somewhere on a diffrent drive..

[08:01:53]

rexer:

dang...

[08:02:25]

Blaksmith:

Reinstallation of libaa1 is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.

[08:02:45]

Blaksmith:

and a few more deps are not being met either

[08:03:08]

sid:

Blaksmith: dpkg -al|grep -v ^ii

[08:03:12]

sid:

put that on rafb.net/paste

[08:04:23]

Blaksmith:

http://rafb.net/p/stt42361.html

[08:04:45]

sid:

ok, libaa1 is the only package on your system that isn't installed properly.

[08:05:04]

sid:

Blaksmith: i386?

[08:05:08]

Blaksmith:

yes

[08:05:20]

Blaksmith:

wait.. 686

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sid:

hmm, libaa1 doesn't seem to be on kernel.org's repository. maybe it's not in sarge main

[08:07:42]

** Blaksmith shrugs **

[08:08:08]

Blaksmith:

you saw the error that xine was giving right?

[08:09:05]

Blaksmith:

it doesn't know the format ..

[08:10:16]

sid:

You just need to find the link to libaa1 and dpkg force install and you're set. I believe

[08:10:24]

sid:

I'm having some troubles finding the package on debian.org

[08:10:32]

Blaksmith:

k

[08:10:55]

Blaksmith:

libaa1_1.4p5–30_i386.deb

[08:10:57]

Blaksmith:

I do have that one

[08:11:04]

Blaksmith:

but that's the one that won't install properly

[08:12:05]

sid:

Iok, that's the one for sarge

[08:12:22]

sid:

dpkg -i --force-all libaa1_1.4p5–30_i386.deb

[08:13:28]

sid:

And do dpkg -al|grep -v ^ii and if it doesn't show up, it probably installed properly.

[08:13:57]

Blaksmith:

it's empty now

[08:14:04]

sid:

try mplayer

[08:14:12]

Blaksmith:

liblslang now heh

[08:14:30]

sid:

apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade; apt-get install mplayer-nogui;

[08:15:42]

Blaksmith:

Depends: libslang2 (>= 2.0.1–1) but it is not installable

[08:16:53]

sid:

hmm

[08:17:06]

sid:

I think you have packages from marillat's sid repositories that got installed.

[08:17:30]

Blaksmith:

getting libslang2 now

[08:17:38]

sid:

k

[08:17:53]

sid:

Are you apt-get'ing it? or dpkg -i --force-all after you wget'd the deb?

[08:18:11]

Blaksmith:

this time I did dpkg

[08:23:57]

sid:

Blaksmith: You fixing more dependencies?

[08:24:17]

Blaksmith:

trying to heh

[08:28:21]

Blaksmith:

ok, got mplayer to work finally

[08:28:46]

Blaksmith:

MPlayer interrupted by signal 6 in module: vo_check_events

[08:28:47]

Blaksmith:

- MPlayer crashed. This shouldn't happen.

[08:29:17]

sid:

you have some packages for sid/marillat probably

[08:29:28]

Blaksmith:

lirc is failing

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Blaksmith:

ttp://rafb.net/p/pbwN4239.html

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sid:

Blaksmith: Will mplayer play movies? no idea about lirc, I've never used MythTV yet.

[08:32:45]

Blaksmith:

lemm see

[08:35:44]

Blaksmith:

gotta find one that doesnt have divx on it

[08:35:55]

sid:

It should be able to play divx

[08:36:45]

sid:

http://rafb.net/p/Yb5ct013.html

[08:36:47]

sid:

Try that.

[08:37:04]

sid:

So if any packages were pulled from sid/marillat, they'll be overwritten with the proper sarge packages.

[08:37:10]

sid:

(try that if video doesn't work)

[08:37:16]

sid:

Because out of the box, divx should work.

[08:37:50]

Blaksmith:

nope.. neither xine nor mplayer will

[08:37:57]

Blaksmith:

xine is playing the audio though

[08:38:12]

sid:

Do the command from rafb

[08:39:09]

Blaksmith:

Package svgalib-dummyg1 is not available, but is referred to by another package.

[08:40:03]

sid:

hmm, remove that package from the list.

[08:40:14]

Blaksmith:

soon as I find it lol

[08:41:00]

Blaksmith:

Package libgl1 is a virtual package provided by:

[08:41:05]

Blaksmith:

with a list of 4

[08:41:13]

Blaksmith:

You should explicitly select one to install.

[08:41:32]

Blaksmith:

dealing with libmesa

[08:42:17]

Blaksmith:

xlibmesa-gl 4.3.0.dfsg.1–14sarge2, mesag3-glide2 5.0.0–5.1, mesag3+ggi 5.0.0–5.1, mesag3 5.0.0–5.1

[08:42:23]

Blaksmith:

those are the ones it suggests

[08:43:16]

Blaksmith:

libaa1 is complaning again

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sid:

Blaksmith: http://rafb.net/p/EDGPji41.html

[08:48:18]

Blaksmith:

xlibmesa-gl: Conflicts: libgl1

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sid:

Blaksmith: http://rafb.net/p/5RpsNy27.html

[08:49:21]

Blaksmith:

libesd-alsa0: Conflicts: libesd0

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sid:

dpkg -al|grep libesd-alsa0

[08:50:03]

sid:

dpkg -al|grep libesd0

[08:50:30]

sid:

the second one do.

[08:50:39]

Blaksmith:

ii libesd0 0.2.35–2 Enlightened Sound Daemon – Shared libraries

[08:52:00]

sid:

http://rafb.net/p/rynVer65.html

[08:53:22]

Blaksmith:

http://rafb.net/p/m9Hwal28.html

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sid:

o, do you have the wrong libaa1 I wonder...

[08:55:55]

Blaksmith:

libaa1_1.4p5–30_i386.deb

[08:56:27]

sid:

libaa1 doesn't exist in sarge main, but it is in etch main.

[08:56:36]

sid:

So I guess marillat has it in their repository.

[08:56:57]

sid:

But I don't see it.

[08:57:00]

Blaksmith:

hrm

[08:57:18]

sid:

03:55 <sid> info libaa1 sid

[08:57:19]

sid:

03:56 <dpkg> libaa1: (ascii art library), section libs, is optional. Version: 1.4p5–30 (sid), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 168 kB

[08:57:22]

sid:

03:56 <sid> info libaa1 sarge

[08:57:24]

sid:

03:56 <dpkg> Package 'libaa1' does not exist.

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rexer:

ok.. its late... my mythtv segfaulted while updateing channels..

[08:58:38]

rexer:

im going to sleep.

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Blaksmith:

[2006-01–01] aalib 1.4p5–30 MIGRATED to testing (Britney)

[09:00:29]

sid:

ahh, good call

[09:00:36]

sid:

So libaa1 must be a sid package

[09:00:44]

sid:

dpkg --purge libaa1

[09:01:00]

Blaksmith:

dine

[09:01:18]

sid:

http://rafb.net/p/rynVer65.html

[09:01:22]

Blaksmith:

err done that is lol

[09:02:03]

Blaksmith:

libslang2: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.6–6) but 2.3.2.ds1–22sarge4 is to be installed

[09:02:41]

sid:

er

[09:02:47]

sid:

You have sid libslang2 also

[09:02:53]

sid:

dpkg --purge libslang2

[09:02:56]

sid:

And do the command again.

[09:03:25]

sid:

libc6 2.3.6 is from sid, libc 2.3.2 is from sarge.

[09:03:37]

sid:

So if a package depends on libc6 2.3.6, that package is for a sid box, not a sarge box.

[09:03:38]

Blaksmith:

ok, looks like it's going

[09:03:44]

sid:

k

[09:03:54]

Blaksmith:

had to purge -dev too

[09:03:59]

Blaksmith:

libslang2-dev

[09:04:25]

** Blaksmith knows how to mess up a box lol **

[09:04:37]

Blaksmith:

I never had this much problem with gentoo though ehh

[09:05:20]

Blaksmith:

but, if it helps fix this box... :)

[09:05:36]

sid:

well you shot yourself in the foot

[09:05:37]

sid:

heh

[09:05:50]

sid:

You added an unstable repository to your stable box, and installed unstable packages. heh

[09:05:54]

Blaksmith:

E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libgcc1

[09:07:00]

Blaksmith:

it got all the files though

[09:07:00]

sid:

Blaksmith: do apt-get clean; then do the command again.(it will fail again)

[09:07:24]

sid:

yea, it got the files, that's what we want.

[09:07:51]

sid:

we'll cd /var/cache/apt/archives; dpkg -i --force-all *deb;(but we need to clean out old crap from hours ago first)

[09:08:08]

Blaksmith:

heh

[09:09:40]

Blaksmith:

still downloading

[09:10:51]

Blaksmith:

ok, got the files, and errored out again

[09:11:36]

Blaksmith:

run the dpkg comand now?

[09:11:40]

sid:

yep

[09:11:45]

sid:

cd /var/cache/apt/archives; dpkg -i --force-all *deb;

[09:12:03]

Blaksmith:

it's chuggin away now

[09:13:02]

sid:

good, so any packages that might have been pulled from unstable marilat, will be overwritten with stable packages now.

[09:13:15]

Blaksmith:

done

[09:13:27]

sid:

apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade; apt-get install mplayer-nogui;

[09:13:34]

sid:

Then try to play that avi again.

[09:15:26]

Blaksmith:

X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)

[09:16:02]

Blaksmith:

but, I see it tried to decode divx4

[09:16:32]

sid:

not sure on that one. /join #mplayer

[09:16:38]

Blaksmith:

heh

[09:17:50]

Blaksmith:

I'll have to do that later.. it's 1am, and I need to get up in the morning...

[09:17:56]

Blaksmith:

thanks for all your help though :)

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Neeesat25:

Dono for a reason I get: VideoOutput Error: Could not find suitable Xvideo surface

[09:30:07]

Neeesat25:

I use fglrx drivers for my x200 onboard card

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Blaksmith:

ok, I couldn't sleep till I saw "something" hehe

[09:42:39]

Blaksmith:

I got "white noise" with an antenna hooked to the tuner finally!!!

[09:42:42]

Blaksmith:

woot!

[09:54:11]

Blaksmith:

except when I go full screen to watch, I get a blue screen :(

[09:54:29]

Blaksmith:

but I do see it on small picture when selecting recordings

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Bernardo:

I'm getting a lot of segfaults in mythcommflag (built from svn) like this:

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Bernardo:

[ 1001.087516] mythcommflag[6866]: segfault at 00000001006bc978 rip 000000000041c482 rsp 00007fff62e20f60 error 4

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Bernardo:

anyone else seen it?

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Blaksmith:

wheee got composite going finally

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Blaksmith:

still can't watch it full screen.. only in the tiny window

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Jasper:

got it to work sweettttttttt

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Jasper:

;P

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kuse:

When I play music through myth-tvs internal music player it sound like trash litteraly, but when I use mplayer it sounds like it should, am I using wrong device or what can cause that?

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LLyric:

Is there a way to make mythfrontend not use opengl for the UI? It seems to be having problems on my laptop

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Jasper:

kuse are you sure they both use alsa?

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The_Ball_:

im creating a dedicated frontend, what is the best way to start the frontend on boot and shutdown after exit?

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BULLE:

The_Ball_: i dont know the best way at all

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BULLE:

The_Ball_: what i do, and its most likely NOT the best way, is to just use autologin feature of KDM

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BULLE:

The_Ball_: and have it start a simple script, that runs mythfrontend, and then, after it exits, runs shutdown -h now

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The_Ball_:

BULLE, i was thinking of that, but it should be possible just to run startx for the mythtv users and have .xinitrd file with mythfrontend and shutdown in it

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BULLE:

The_Ball_: yes, i guess so, but for me, having kdm running, was just so much easier, and it is basicly the same thing, except kdm is running aswell

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BULLE:

The_Ball_: i use fedora, so i need to have the user logged in, in order for the myth user to have access to sound and video etc

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BULLE:

fedora handles all that dynamicly, at login time

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GreyFoxx:

Personally I have a line at the end of my init scripts that startsx as the mythtv user, that user has an .xinitrc that starts icewm and icewm launches mythfrontend

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brad_mssw:

Just got a linkplayer2 for xmas ... I can browse the video files on the mythtv box, but when I try to play them, the screen just goes blank for 2 seconds and returns to the list of videos

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rexer:

well im able to get mythfrontend to work...

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brad_mssw:

any ideas?

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rexer:

whats this message about not being able to connect to backend server?

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rexer:

dangit.. it errors out..

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rexer:

no TV :(

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rexer:

does the mythbackend server work like a service? eg: /etc/service has to be specified?

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rexer:

The Master backend will always choose the first available tuner in the same order as you add cards through "mythtv-setup"

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rexer:

hmm.. the order of listing in tuner setup...

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tcpsyn:

rexer, start the backend from /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend

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rexer:

did that...

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rexer:

did a reboot..

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tcpsyn:

somethings probably wrong in mythtv-setup

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rexer:

people keep saying that....

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rexer:

mythtv-setup | tee and tail on this term.... shows

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rexer:

Connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 (try 1 of 10)

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tcpsyn:

just mythtv-setup

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rexer:

yeah.. and no program running..

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tcpsyn:

can you ping 127.0.0.1

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tcpsyn:

?

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tcpsyn:

I don't think the backend should be running in order to run mythtv-setup

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GreyFoxx:

Depending on what you do it doesn't matter

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GreyFoxx:

That's just the setup sending a signal to a running backend (if it's running) to tell it to update somestuff

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tcpsyn:

oh

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rexer:

rebooting... dang its starting to feel like a micromyth..

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The_Ball_:

I'm getting "No Seektable" when trying to edit cut lists for recordings (in 0.20)

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jd86:

remind me never to upgrade mysql ever ever again.

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tcpsyn:

jd86, hah.

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tcpsyn:

You know how many times I've done that.

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jd86:

I said oh whats the worst that can happen

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tcpsyn:

mysql, php, and apache

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tcpsyn:

I had to change all the variable names in my website during the php3–4 upgrade.

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tcpsyn:

You know how long that took me to figure out

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tcpsyn:

heh

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jd86:

took me hours just to get the permissions right, then i said ah finally i can get in...resetup all of the users, then php was borked... so i remerge php which happens to give me php5 so I have to fix a few of my php scripts for php5, and i said ah how nice... well mythtv doesn't work any more, so I have to recompiel mysql with new version on backend ... thought i'd be done and then qt needed to be recompiled then mythtv would compile with ne

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jd86:

w qt

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jd86:

and hopefully this compile of mythtv right now will work

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tcpsyn:

I suggest juski's blootube-wide theme.

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tcpsyn:

its great.

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jd86:

where would one get such a theme?

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tcpsyn:

from his website

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jd86:

what is juski's website?

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tcpsyn:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/justin.hornsby2/

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jd86:

:( great, another problem now

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jd86:

MySQL said: Documentation #1194 – Table 'logs' is marked as crashed and should be repaired

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jd86:

more mysql to fix.

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tcpsyn:

thats what makes linux fun.

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jd86:

i don't mind it, its just i should have waited for a better time to do this

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Bernardo:

hi

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jd86:

screenshots anywhere tcpsyn ?

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Bernardo:

anyone has two analog cards working? my bt878 and cx8800 cards are conflicting like crazy, there are some slots where the bt878 will just make the bttv module enter a loop of pci errors and such

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jd86:

Bernardo, I did before I purchased pvr150's

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jd86:

actuaklly the pvr150 is analog i believe, just has mpeg encoder (if i am thinking analog as the right word)

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Bernardo:

analogic

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Bernardo:

I think

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Bernardo:

:)

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jd86:

anyway, yeah my friend has a bttv and cx8800 card working in the same machine

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Bernardo:

I'm waiting for the dvb-c I bought to arrive, I just hope the combination of the bt878 with the technotrend will be more peacefull

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jd86:

just don't upgrade your mysql

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Bernardo:

lol

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jd86:

(has nothing to do with it, but I've been having so much trouble with the upgrade i'm not going to do it again any time soon)

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Bernardo:

that I never had a problem with

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jd86:

i never had a problem until i went from 4.1 to 5.0

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Bernardo:

with these two, now...

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Bernardo:

I just got this:

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Bernardo:

[ 207.254543] warning: many lost ticks.

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Bernardo:

[ 207.254547] Your time source seems to be instable or some driver is hogging interupts

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Bernardo:

[ 207.254555] rip __make_request+0x3e5/0x410

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Bernardo:

I see a lot of that "many lost ticks" since I put both cards here

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Bernardo:

still have to find where that comes from, if it's inside the kernel or what

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jd86:

yay! live tv is a go again!

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jd86:

woot woot

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tcpsyn:

Bernardo, could that be an ntp thing?

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jd86:

yeah my ntp looses ticks too (hopefully doesn't get lyme)

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jd86:

now lets try some juski themes

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jd86:

well I don't have a wide screen television for mythtv (yet)

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Bernardo:

tcpsyn: could be... I've googled for it and I've found some indications that it might be overclocking enabled in the msi bios, but there are other complaints of the same... apparently it is supposed to be fixed in 2.6.20–2

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tcpsyn:

word

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tcpsyn:

I was bitching about the size of the text in myth, and that I couldn't read it... even when I set the font sizes huge..

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tcpsyn:

Yeah, then I put on my glasses.

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tcpsyn:

<- retard.

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Bernardo:

lol

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Bernardo:

tcpsyn: can't do lasik? Then you wouldn't have those problems

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tcpsyn:

lasik?

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muxx:

guys, can I transcode losslessly in myth ? I mean copying every packet as it is, but observing the cutpoints

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Dr_willis:

Laser eye surgery

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Dr_willis:

Somthing i need done also.

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toad-six:

i have a pretty basic question regarding renumbering channels

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toad-six:

i moved some channels around to number them close to each other

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toad-six:

in mythweb, and in the program guide, they're next to each other

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tcpsyn:

Its a good idea, but for now, It's just easier and cheaper to put the glasses on.

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toad-six:

however, when i use the "up/down" buttons to browse, they don't show up

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tcpsyn:

toad-six, I don't know how to fix that.

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toad-six:

does the osd guide channels order them differently?

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tcpsyn:

I have no idea.

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toad-six:

anybody else in here have an idea of what i can do?

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tcpsyn:

picked a rough day man.

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muxx:

maybe someone can explain how does "lossless transcode" work ?

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toad-six:

haha that's true – i'll have to come back later

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jams:

toad-six- are the channels from different sources? ie cable and digitial cable

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Blaksmith:

morning

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Bernardo:

tcpsyn: I know of quite a few people that had it done, and the worst result was a guy thet ended with 5–6 dioptries (?), but he had 18 to start with

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jams:

browse mode only shows channels that are available for the current source

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Blaksmith:

quick questin before I head out the door... on playback, I'm getting: X Error: BaddAlloc (insufficient resources for operatino) 11

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Bernardo:

GreyFoxx: Don't know if you saw the other day, but upnp isn't working for me (svn 12339).

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toad-six:

jams – no, same source

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toad-six:

jams – actually, let me take that back – they are different sources, but same capture card (dvb)

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toad-six:

but that doesn't make a difference with all of the other channels that i didn't renumber manually

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** Bernardo finds mythtv is slow updating the list of his 800 (all legal) cds... **

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quink:

is there a command line way to get the display resolution of X?

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AdamKili:

the Hauppauge WinTV-Go is a hardware encoder card right? "It features the Conexant Fusion 878A chipset"

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quink:

i don't believe so.

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quink:

if it cost less than $50, probably not.

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muxx:

quink> xdpyinfo

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quink:

thanks i forgot the command

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muxx:

AdamKili> Conexant Fusion 878A doesn't have a HW encoder

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quink:

hm. i don't have that program anymore...wonder what happened

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AdamKili:

dang it

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quink:

ah figured it out.

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muxx:

AdamKili> check the board for other large chips

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Bernardo:

AdamKili: that's the same board I have here, and it's a plain analogic tv + fm radio tuner

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MystSparks:

hi everyone... I had an issue where using the composite input... instead of using "unknown" for the program name, it uses blank, or "" (nothing). This represents problems since it doesn't list anything in the recorded programs list when it has not title for the program. It does show up that there is a program, in the filter listing, but none appears when selected when the title is blank. I would think it should be using the "unknown" as t

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MystSparks:

he title name. I am using v .20

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quink:

hm. i set xorg.conf to display 1920x1080 and it doesn't. thats werid cause the tv is 1080i

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AdamKili:

ok thanks. just want to make sure i get a hardware encoder card.

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quink:

it goes to 720x480

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quink:

but it does 1280x720 fine.

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MystSparks:

I did try importing a xmltv file for the composite impute, and that info does show up in the guide... but it still uses a blank title when it recrds

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muxx:

AdamKili> http://www.bttv-gallery.de/

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muxx:

AdamKili> this card appears to be a plain analog capture card without hw mpeg encoder

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Big_Dagwood:

Hello everyone

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Big_Dagwood:

have just a quick question

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Big_Dagwood:

im running debian and installed mythtv. finally i got it to work(i am a noob at this) well what i need is to record from my composite output

[18:27:33]

Big_Dagwood:

i hit r when watching the channel but nothing seems to happen

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Big_Dagwood:

it posts record "" at the top of the screen

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Big_Dagwood:

did I miss something with the install or something?

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Big_Dagwood:

anyone here

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Big_Dagwood:

????

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Big_Dagwood:

wow its loud in here

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MystSparks:

big_dagwood.

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MystSparks:

I'm having the same issue

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Big_Dagwood:

ah

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MystSparks:

I just posted a bug

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MystSparks:

http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/2828

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AdamKili:

is the pvr 150 have a hardware encoder?

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MystSparks:

yes it is

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MystSparks:

er does

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MystSparks:

big_dagwood... keep in touch with me with anything you find on the topic... thank. My email is on that bug page

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Big_Dagwood:

no prob

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Big_Dagwood:

can u get a channel list

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MystSparks:

merry xmas, later all

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Big_Dagwood:

merry xmas happy holidays

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juski_:

thought I'd pop by & say hello (my ears were burning) ;)

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juski_:

hey xris – having a good one?

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juski_:

I am, and I'm about to head out again. I'll fix the dodgy watermarks soon, when all the wine has worn off ;)

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xris:

just woke up.

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juski_:

ta-ta for now

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xris:

merry christmas. :)

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juski_:

merry christmas!

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juski_:

hmmm. the pub needs me. my best friend is desperate to get out of his folks' house ;)

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juski_:

see yous soon

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Dr_willis:

Time for EggNog.

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Dr_willis:

:)

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tigerflyer:

is mythtv distributed as a standalone app... like nothing else on a machine or does it have to be run over an existing install?

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kormoc:

it's an application, not a os, correct

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kormoc:

there are distros designed to be single purpose (knoppmyth, mythdora)

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kormoc:

but they are user done

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tigerflyer:

user done?

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kormoc:

yes, users put the distro together and offer it

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tigerflyer:

oh ok

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tigerflyer:

is there one like that for gentoo?

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tigerflyer:

or do u just emerge myth?

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kormoc:

no, for gentoo, emerge mythtv works well enough

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tigerflyer:

ok great

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tigerflyer:

thanks kormoc

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kormoc:

remember to set the use flags tho

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tigerflyer:

check

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tigerflyer:

happy holidays everyone

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tcpsyn:

I'm still having a hell of a time trying to get mythstreamtv to stream the audio. Video's comming over but I'm still getting this for audio:

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tcpsyn:

main packetizer error: cannot create packetizer output (mpga)

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tcpsyn:

I've compiled ffmpeg and vlc with mp3lame support

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tcpsyn:

not sure why its still suggesting mpga

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Zider:

perhaps it's not mp3 audio?

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tcpsyn:

well, theres a dropdown that lets you select if the audio stream is mp3, a52, or mpga...

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tcpsyn:

I get the same error on all of them.

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Zider:

ah

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tcpsyn:

whats mpga?

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Zider:

Mpeg-1 Layer3 Audio Stream

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xris:

Zider: isn't that the same as mp3?

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Zider:

xris: seems to be a streaming version of mp3

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xris:

ah

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tcpsyn:

its driving me crazy

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scott_:

everyone here got new hardware for christmas and need help getting it to work with mythtv

[20:11:26]

tcpsyn:

scott, nice. I just got crappy clothes.

[20:12:09]

Zider:

I didn't get anything at all

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tcpsyn:

I bought myself a pair of the bose companion 2 speakers.

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tcpsyn:

They sound great.

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sid:

Is there a plugin or easy way for my friends to plugin their ipod into my MythTV box, or a creative vision m, or other handheld media devices, and mythtv will pop up a dialogue to play them?

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comradevik:

hi

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tcpsyn:

hi

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Bernardo:

GreyFoxx: you're here?

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Giuly:

hi guys, does livetv work in the trunk?

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quitte:

hi. is there a way t start the frontend as a window?

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Dr_willis:

could run it in a vnc session.

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quitte:

so there is no such option?

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Dr_willis:

No idea.. never tried. :)

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Dr_willis:

ive managed to get a few programs running on top of the myth-frontend. by mistake befor heh..

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kormoc:

quitte, in the frontend settings, set the start in the window option

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quitte:

thanks

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keir:

there is no man page for ivtv-tune or ivtvctl; how in the world do i switch to using composite in?

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kormoc:

try ivtvctl --help?

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keir:

useless; it doesn't actually say anything about composite

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kormoc:

of course not...

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keir:

ivtv-tune suggests that i can use it

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keir:

ivtv-tune --device=DEVICE

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kormoc:

-p, --set-input=<num> set the current video input to <num> [VIDIOC_S_INPUT]

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keir:

but no mention WHAT i can pick

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keir:

num... useful.

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kormoc:

you have to get what the card supports from the card...

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keir:

ah! clearly!

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kormoc:

-L, --get-output query the current video output [VIDIOC_G_OUTPUT]

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kormoc:

right above it

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kormoc:

what's so hard about that?

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keir:

ioctl VIDIOC_G_OUTPUT failed: Invalid argument

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kormoc:

oor, sorry, you want inputs

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kormoc:

try -n

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keir:

aha!

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keir:

wow, this is completely retarded

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keir:

there should be a standard tv api

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keir:

then one gui which lets you select in/out channels etc

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kormoc:

this is the standard api

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kormoc:

and the unix way isn't gui apps

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kormoc:

feel free to use something else rather then bitching about free stuff on christmas

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keir:

i know :(

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keir:

sorry

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keir:

i've spent all day building computers for other people

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keir:

one freebie for my less-than well off friend

[21:59:06]

keir:

another for my mom

[21:59:09]

keir:

and the pvr for my dad

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keir:

i understand that this is 'the unix way'

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keir:

but i feel it would be nice if all the tv tuner programs used the same command switches or had a library for this stuff

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kormoc:

there is a libary

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keir:

then i wouldn't need to bother helpful devs like yourself

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kormoc:

Video for Linux

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kormoc:

I'm not a de

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kormoc:

*dev

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kormoc:

we're all just users in here, no devs

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kormoc:

but video 4 linux is the standard for framegrabber cards, you picked a ivtv card, which requires a slightly different API due to the capability's of the card.

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keir:

i see

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kormoc:

if you wanted to use the stanard, you could have picked a card that supported it

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keir:

i couldn't find any other cards on college st here in toronto when i was shopping

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keir:

ah well

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keir:

so ivtv-tune --device=2 (which is composite in according to ivtvctl -n) just re-shows help

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keir:

no error message

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kormoc:

you need to give the path to the device node

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kormoc:

/dev/video0 likely

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keir:

oh

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kormoc:

sorry, ivtv-tune is slightly different

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kormoc:

you set the input via ivtvctl

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kormoc:

ivtvctl -p=2

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kormoc:

and then ivtv-tune blah

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kormoc:

you use both of those tools to do slightly different things

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keir:

ok

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keir:

hmm

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keir:

ivtvctl -p=2 says 'video input set to 0'

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keir:

no matter what i put for the device

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kormoc:

try

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kormoc:

-p 2

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kormoc:

no =

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keir:

perfect

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keir:

AWESOME!

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keir:

wow, video!

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keir:

still left: remote control, IR blaster (need to buy one), finding channel listings

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kormoc:

remote/ir blaster, I love my microsoft usb mce remote, it's a remote and blaster in one, very very nice

[22:08:29]

kormoc:

channel listings, if you're in the us, zap2it is your place, else xmltv

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keir:

kormoc: i actually got that already. it doesn't say antything about a 'blaster' though

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kormoc:

keir, the usb one?

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keir:

on the back it has two stereo ports

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keir:

kormoc, yup

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** kormoc nods **

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keir:

one says '1' and the other '2'

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kormoc:

you need lirc 0.8.1 for them to work, but then they just work awesomely

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keir:

is it a blaster too?

[22:09:22]

** kormoc nods **

[22:09:26]

keir:

AWESOME!!!!!

[22:09:29]

keir:

i wasn't sure

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kormoc:

should have come with two things to plug into those

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keir:

hmm

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keir:

it only came with one

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kormoc:

well, mine came with two, but it was part of a bundle, so it might be different in other bundles/stand alone

[22:10:14]

keir:

i only need one though, right?

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kormoc:

aye

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keir:

wicked

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keir:

is the 2 output?

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kormoc:

hrm?

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keir:

as in, there are two places i could plug the extension in for a blaster

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kormoc:

ahh, they are both output

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keir:

they are not labeled as blaster on input extension

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keir:

sweet

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kormoc:

I use #1

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kormoc:

not sure if lirc supports #2 or not

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keir:

do i need lirc CVS?

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kormoc:

it's a 0.8.1-pre4 or something

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kormoc:

it's a packaged release on their site

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keir:

great

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keir:

do you know anything about getting listings for expressvu?

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kormoc:

nope

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keir:

ok

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WhiteRabit:

are there any MythMusic alternatives that have a more Winamp Library/Itunes like interface?

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comradevik:

i'm looking into setting up mythtv over break, and want to buy a remote, is ati remote wonder a good choice?

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mr-at:

*/help

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kormoc:

comradevik, I love my microsoft usb mce remote, it's a remote and blaster in one, very very nice

[23:36:23]

kormoc:

comradevik, I can't speak on the ease of setting up the ati remote

[23:36:35]

kormoc:

comradevik, http://www.pcalchemy.com/product_info.php/cPa . . . ducts_id/130

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rogue780:

does anyone here have lirc running under ubuntu

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rogue780:

?

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tcpsyn:

debian..

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rogue780:

tcpsyn: i think I installed it...and I have the lircd.conf file hooked up, but I don't know what to do from there

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tcpsyn:

rogue780, /etc/init.d/lirc start

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rogue780:

then what?

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tcpsyn:

then read a tutorial, theres plenty, and come back with a specific question.

[23:41:38]

rogue780:

i typed irw, but it says connection refused

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jams:

WhiteRabit- what sort of custom gui are your looking for?

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tcpsyn:

rogue, ps aux | grep lircd

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rogue780:

ok...root 4348 0.0 0.3 3296 1360 pts/0 S+ 10:19 0:00 nano lircd.conf

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rogue780:

shawn 4403 0.0 0.1 2800 752 pts/1 R+ 18:42 0:00 grep lircd

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WhiteRabit:

jams: looking for a winamp library/itunes type interface on mythmusic

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tcpsyn:

lircd isn't started

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tcpsyn:

save and close your lircd.conf file, and run /etc/init.d/lirc start

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jams:

WhiteRabit- sorry don't know what either of those look like

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WhiteRabit:

its the popular music player interface lately

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rogue780:

vlc

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rogue780:

shawn@NESPC:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/lirc start

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rogue780:

Starting lirc daemon: lircd.

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rogue780:

brb

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WhiteRabit:

jams: http://www.podcastingnews.com/images/songbird.jpg

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WhiteRabit:

its being copied by alot of programs... winamp, itunes, songbird, musikcube

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WhiteRabit:

mythmusic has a pretty clunky interface in comparison

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tcpsyn:

agreed.

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tcpsyn:

its cool, but kinda hard to use.

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WhiteRabit:

mythtv is very technically capable, but teh usiability leaves something to be desired

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kormoc:

that's because noone wants to fix it

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kormoc:

If you guys fix it up, your patches will likely be loved to death :P

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WhiteRabit:

on screen text isn't handled very well, always getting cutoff.... the music player has a really bad interface.... the video plugin can't display long filenames at ALL

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WhiteRabit:

i'm struggling to understand the php in mediawiki at the moment... mythtv is way over my head

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rogue780:

tcpsyn: now i get. root 4423 0.0 0.1 2744 580 ? Ss 18:46 0:00 /usr/sbin/lircd

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WhiteRabit:

were I rich, I'd hire a developer to totally overhaul the mythtv interface.. .it's the most overlooked aspect of mythtv

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rogue780:

if I were rich, I'd develope mythtv for dumb people and load it on pre-build devices like a tivo, and sell them.

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comradevik:

kormoc that works with linux?

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kormoc:

comradevik, aye, I use one for my mythsetup, as does xris and cardoe.

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kormoc:

comradevik, and it even works as a blaster if you need one in the future

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comradevik:

nic ethanks

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comradevik:

thanks*

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kormoc:

you're welcome

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comradevik:

i'm looking into setting up mythtv over break

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rogue780:

tcpsyn: now i get. root 4423 0.0 0.1 2744 580 ? Ss 18:46 0:00 /usr/sbin/lircd

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tcpsyn:

and now does it work?

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tcpsyn:

irw?

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Rurik:

Just curious, when running doing Optical Disks->Import DVD, is mytharchivehelper the program run?

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rogue780:

I type it, and I'm immediately returned to the command prompt

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tcpsyn:

make sure lircd is still running

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rogue780:

tcpsyn: it is

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rogue780:

when I run IRW though, it kills lirc

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tcpsyn:

I'm not sure, but I'd bet somethings wrong in lircd.conf

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tcpsyn:

http://forum.byopvr.com/dvr/index.php/topic,2819.0.html

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rogue780:

tcpsyn: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38825/

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tcpsyn:

looks fine

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