Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Tuesday, December 5th, 2006, 00:00 UTC

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|Torg|:

hit M does it give you a menu?

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cheatersrealm:

nope

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cheatersrealm:

in fact, esc doesn't bring me back

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cheatersrealm:

it seems to time out on livetv, and go back to the menu?

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cheatersrealm:

don't rule out backend problems

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cheatersrealm:

I have never successfully tested the backend

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cheatersrealm:

although I am fairly confident the hardware is detected correctly

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cheatersrealm:

oh, I get 'timed out waiting for recorder to start'

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cheatersrealm:

(from mythfrontend)

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fryfrog:

anyone know why "sed -e 's/ /, /g'" isn't replacing new lines with ", " on cmd output?

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cheatersrealm:

fryfrog: is the , required for commas?

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cheatersrealm:

additionally, it can't autodetect more than 1 channel (27)

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fryfrog:

oops, i took that out :)

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cheatersrealm:

fryfrog: did it work?

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fryfrog:

no :(

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fryfrog:

sed -e 's/ /, /'

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fryfrog:

is there another ... thing for new line?

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cheatersrealm:

wait, does sed work on newlines?

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cheatersrealm:

man sed, I think their might be an option for select newlines

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cheatersrealm:

I think it's an -e type thing, not a type thing

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fryfrog:

ahhhhhh, gotcha

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cheatersrealm:

if that doesn't work, I'm out of ideas :)

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|Torg|:

I dont think sed can find new-line just insert them

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cheatersrealm:

|Torg|: I think I might have done it before

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|Torg|:

try tr ' ' ,

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|Torg|:

if you want want the trailing , |tr ' ' , | sed 's/,$/ /'

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fryfrog:

tr worked

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fryfrog:

du -s /data/recordings/*.mpg|sort -n|head -`ls -al /data/recordings/*.mpg | awk '{ print $5 }' | grep "^0" | wc -l`|awk '{ print $2 }'|tr \n ,| sed 's/,$/ /'

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fryfrog:

sheesh :)

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fryfrog:

guess i should make that a little simpler :/

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cheatersrealm:

heh

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cheatersrealm:

ok, so I fixed the zap2it stuff

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cheatersrealm:

hopefully that helps a bit

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cheatersrealm:

ok, so now I'm getting menus that appear very breifly and then disappear

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cheatersrealm:

I thought it was because I was using opengl, but I turned that off

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Anduin:

cheatersrealm: still happen when 'mythfrontend -O ThemePainter=qt'? (just to make sure)

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cheatersrealm:

hrm, it was the opengl thing

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cheatersrealm:

ok, back to this whole livetv not working thing

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cheatersrealm:

it connects to the database, and it connects to the backend

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cheatersrealm:

attempts to change from 'none' to 'watchinglivetv'

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cheatersrealm:

protocol 31

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cheatersrealm:

then it times out waiting for the recorder to start

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Anduin:

cheatersrealm: so scheduled recordings fail the same way?

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cheatersrealm:

checking now

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cheatersrealm:

NVP::OpenFile(): Error, couldn't read file: myth://192.168.1.3:6543/1014_20061204193400.nuv

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cheatersrealm:

that's something I tried to record (and it's still recording, presumably)

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Anduin:

cheatersrealm: run the backend -v all,nodatabase and paste the log around a live TV try, also which capture card?

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cheatersrealm:

ivtv based card

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Anduin:

cheatersrealm: cat test and it works?

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cheatersrealm:

heh

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cheatersrealm:

hold on

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cheatersrealm:

cat /dev/video0 gives me stuff

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cheatersrealm:

nothing coherent, obviously

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cheatersrealm:

what user should run the backend -v all,nodatabase

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Anduin:

cheatersrealm: Yeah, you should be able to cat blah > foo.mpg and watch it

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Anduin:

cheatersrealm: Whatever user would normally run the backend

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cheatersrealm:

lemme try that cat

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cheatersrealm:

ok, that gives me static

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cheatersrealm:

but it seems to be writing a proper mpg file

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Anduin:

Yeah, static isn't necessarily bad

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Anduin:

cheatersrealm: You picked the right card type in mythtv-setup?

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cheatersrealm:

I dunno that it asked to?

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cheatersrealm:

I'll check that, and then try the manual run of mythbackend

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** BULLE tries to fry his mythbox **

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BULLE:

anyone here that has a intel core 2 duo cpu ?

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BULLE:

im just curious what core temp i should expect, under load

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cheatersrealm:

it was set to the wrong type, it was v4l

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cheatersrealm:

ok, so now I get the OSD

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cheatersrealm:

but I don't get the tv show it says

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cheatersrealm:

just static

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Anduin:

cheatersrealm: Using the right frequency table?

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cheatersrealm:

dunno

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cheatersrealm:

I suppose now that the card settings are right, it should autodetect the channels

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Anduin:

cheatersrealm: If you are using zap2it don't do the channel scan, just pick the right frequency table.

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Anduin:

cheatersrealm: You are using cable?

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cheatersrealm:

it was on us-bcast, changed to us-cable

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cheatersrealm:

wow I really nub'd it up on the config

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cheatersrealm:

uh

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cheatersrealm:

this thing has 2 tv tuners

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cheatersrealm:

let me plug them both in

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Anduin:

Given your jhu domain I didn't want to insult you :)

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cheatersrealm:

even smart people do dumb things

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cheatersrealm:

how do you change inputs?

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Anduin:

Y

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|Torg|:

the smarter you are the dumber things you do

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Anduin:

or C

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cheatersrealm:

I'm thinking maybe this isn't plugged in correctly

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cheatersrealm:

and I can't twist the cable in cuz it's at a crazy angle

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Anduin:

cheatersrealm: did you associate the zap2it lineup with the Tuner input?

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cheatersrealm:

I think so

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cheatersrealm:

I'm checking on the settings again

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cheatersrealm:

I have to use X forwarding through ssh to the machine

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cheatersrealm:

so it takes a while

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jams:

ugh, doing a channel scan for hdtv turns up channels but I cant view any of them. Its just a black screen

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Anduin:

cheatersrealm: Is the card the pvr500?

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cheatersrealm:

yea

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Anduin:

cheatersrealm: If you configure both inputs you can switch cars in live TV with Y (so if you do have one plugged in...)

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rogue780:

ugh! I really should have gone for the 512mb ram instead of the 256

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cheatersrealm:

what's the difference between us-cable and us-cable-hrc and us-cable-irc

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rogue780:

cheatersrealm, one has hrc and the other irc at the end?

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Anduin:

cheatersrealm: frequencies, at the lower channels you should see more than snow even if you pick the wrong one.

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rogue780:

sorry. I'm an A-hole.

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Ryushin:

jams: Are you scanning OTA, or cable?

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cheatersrealm:

ok

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jams:

OTA

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Ryushin:

jams: Which card?

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jams:

air2pc 5000

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cheatersrealm:

Anduin: ok, so I set it up so both cards can read the 'cable'

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Ryushin:

I have the pcHDTV HD-3000 and the HD-5500 card. They have a utility called dvbsignal. Do you have that utility as well?

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jams:

i don't think so

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Ryushin:

sorry, dtvsignal.

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cheatersrealm:

ok, no signal on either tv tuner

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Ryushin:

You can use it to show the signal strength of the channel. If the signal isn't strong enough, you'll probably get a black screen.

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jams:

well I know the signal is good. As I have a stb that works off the same signal

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jams:

and a HDTV

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jams:

err I mean hdhomerun

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Anduin:

cheatersrealm: You may want to look at the ivtv load and ensure the tuner was identified and the tuner module loaded.

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Ryushin:

What device is the card bound to? /dev/video0?

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roz:

I get the following error running mythfrontend on a remote machine (local is working). Unable to connect to database. No error type from QSqlError? Strange... database not open database not open (4 lines)

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jams:

/dev/dvb/adapter0/

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cheatersrealm:

Anduin: yeah, it works

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cheatersrealm:

Anduin: there's a bunch of stuff in dmesg

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roz:

has worked for well over a year now, not sure whats changed

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Ryushin:

roz: Make sure mysql is listening on your other nics. Not just localhost.

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Ryushin:

james: Well, it should also have a /dev/video number as well.

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roz:

Ryushin: i logged into that mysql server from said computer with problems,what do i need to do to verify mySQL functionality at this point (mysql> prompt)

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roz:

Ryushin: i did a use mythconverg

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Agrajag-:

roz: you need to connect with networking, it's possible you just connected via the mysql socket

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Anduin:

cheatersrealm: You could try ivtv-tune, may also want to double check the permissions on /dev/video0.

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Agrajag-:

so you need to make sure your mysql config doesn't have skip-networking (or whatever it is) and the bind address is correct

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Ryushin:

roz: You loged in "with" problems, or "without" problems?

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roz:

Ryushin: logged into mysql db no problems.....mysql -h myth.local -u mythtv -p

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roz:

Agrajag-: not sure what you're referring to

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Ryushin:

roz: Your myth.local is your master backend right, and your doing this from your remote frontend.

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roz:

Ryushin: correct

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Ryushin:

Well, if you can log into mysql remotely, obviously you have mysql set up correctly. I'd be looking two things in mythtv-setup. On the master backend, make sure it's set to talk to the IP of the box and not localhost, and on the frontend, make sure it's set correclty to talk to the backend server.

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roz:

it was working yesterday :)

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cheatersrealm:

Anduin: http://channels.debian.net/paste/4709

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cheatersrealm:

that's what I get from mythfrontend, and mythbackend

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cheatersrealm:

wait, just mythbackend

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Ryushin:

roz: Oh, then you're going to have fun on this one. Because if you had it working, then it was set up correctly. I wouldn't have any other ideas for you at this point.

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roz:

Ryushin: i think I figured it out

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Anduin:

cheatersrealm: Yeah that is just protocol debugging info, nothing really useful there

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roz:

two seconds

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achew222:

is there a way to split your video DB into two groups?

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achew222:

one for adults one for kids or anything like that?

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Anduin:

achew222: In MythVideo?

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achew222:

yes, sorry for the lack of specificity

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Anduin:

achew222: You can set a level, and a password

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achew222:

will the files show up even though they are not in the proper level?

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cheatersrealm:

Anduin: so what am I to do?

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roz:

Ryushin: looks like i am reading that for some reason my QT library is missing mysql support

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roz:

oddddddd

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Ryushin:

That is very odd. Sounds like you have some googling to do.

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achew222:

roz, what are you running?

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roz:

Gentoo

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roz:

if I recompile QT, do i need to recompile myth?

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cheatersrealm:

if you have gentoo make sure that qt and mythtv are in the USE variable

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roz:

cheatersrealm: i have neither (and never have) what do they provide me? I have mysql in there, i know i need that

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cheatersrealm:

roz: if you compiled QT without mysql support, it might be because the USE didn't have mysql in it

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cheatersrealm:

that might be the problem

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cheatersrealm:

maybe I'll try the tv tuner in another computer

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roz:

right, it does, but you mentioned the QT use flag and the mythtv use flag

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cheatersrealm:

I meant qt and mysql

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roz:

qt is a default use flag and i have mysql. I am rebuilding QT again for kicks to see if it fixes it.

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Anduin:

cheatersrealm: I'd try using ivtv-tune to see if you can get anything, if that failed I'd try the composite/s-video to see if that worked, then I'd double check that the tuner module was there and see if the kernel has working support for that tuner (I don't have one of the samsung tuner cards but there was some issue with them)

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roz:

does myth use qt3 or 4?

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Zider:

3

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Anduin:

roz: 3

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roz:

thanks

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siXy:

short of manually updating the db is there a way to add flac to he list of formats in myth's cd-ripper? i have a feeling it used to be there but its not there now

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roz:

is there any way to check whether qt3 has the support in it?

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Zider:

roz: what support?

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roz:

mysql

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kormoc:

roz, check in /usr/qt/3/lib ?

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roz:

(or anything for that matter... don't make files somehow check whether support for xyz is compiled into package z)?

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kormoc:

roz, some make files do, but with qt's plugin style, it's a little hard to check that

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roz:

nothing in there about mysql.

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roz:

oh ok

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kormoc:

roz, so yeah, you need to recompile qt3

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eidolon:

Hi folks – i'm getting 'ChannelBase: Could not find input: Tuner on card when setting channel 35. then TVRec(1): Failed to set channel to 35. Error: Channel: '' was not found in the database. Most likely, your DefaultTVChannel setting is wrong. Could not start livetv.

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roz:

kormoc: but my box that is working has nothing in there either. but none the less i am recompiling qt 3 and we'll see. does myth need recompiled against the new qt3?

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eidolon:

now, i know there is a channel 35. what am i missing here?

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kormoc:

roz, shouldn't need to... can you put into a pastebin the output of find /usr/qt/3/lib ?

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kormoc:

roz, on both boxes?

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eidolon:

anyone?

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scott_:

zerotrace: hello

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eidolon:

isn't there a magic "use xine to view /dev/video' function?

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eidolon:

it'll tell me if the card is configured?

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kormoc:

eidolon, mplayer /dev/video0

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eidolon:

okay, i have noise / audio.

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eidolon:

so the tuner card is working

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kormoc:

if it's not tv, it's not nessessarly working.

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eidolon:

weol, there was sort of fuzzy staticy picture, and a christmas theme playng

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eidolon:

i'm assuming it was tuned not to a correct channel.

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roz:

kormoc: paste bin is being horribly slow.... might be done compiling first haha

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eidolon:

roz: use pastebin.stonekeep.com

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eidolon:

or any other pastebin.

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kormoc:

heh, well hopefully someone else might be able to help, I need to jet

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kslater:

xris: ping

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eidolon:

hmm. 'scan for channels' appear t have only picked up 3 channels. 4, 5, and 6.

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kslater:

eidolon: hd OTA scan?

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eidolon:

sorry? hm. i changed my frequency table to 'us-cable-hrc' and it's now finding the proper count.

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kslater:

ah

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eidolon:

this message is weird. "TVRec(1) Error: Channel: '' was not found int he database. Most likely, your DefaultTVChannel setting is wrong. Could not start livetv."

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eidolon:

though... further up. ChannelBase: CVould not find input: Tuner on card when setting channel 35'

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DarkGrey:

Hmm — I have a question, I have DirecTV and a PIII PC with no internet, do you think MythTV would work for this?

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Anduin:

DarkGrey: No internet makes scheduling suck a little

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mchou:

No internet make linux suck big time :)

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eidolon:

well, i've tried mythfilldatabase – the scan for channels is working (it finds the right channels), but I still can't actually watch anything.

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DarkGrey:

Well.

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DarkGrey:

I have a USB capture device, but I can get a card if needed

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DarkGrey:

and honestly all I want is it to be able to record whats playing

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mchou:

DarkGrey: your issue is not HW. It's the lack of inet :)

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DarkGrey:

i have a Composite(RYW) splitter for GC, DirecTV, and PS2

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DarkGrey:

haha

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DarkGrey:

I can get stuff on there via networking

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DarkGrey:

ad hoc

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Anduin:

DarkGrey: That could work, mythfilldatabase can read from files for the data.

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DarkGrey:

Sweet.

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DarkGrey:

Also — I can move the PC downstairs and have it hooked up to internet for base installation

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DarkGrey:

i plan on using mysettopbox

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jams:

time to file a atsc/dvb bug report.

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mchou:

DarkGrey: so you do have internet downstairs?

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eidolon:

well dang. deleting all my video sources and connections and reloading them seems to have made -some- progress.

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DarkGrey:

mchou: yeah

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eidolon:

okay, cable tuning is working... nwo to see if i can get mythfilldatabase working.

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mchou:

DarkGrey: are you using 56K modem or ?

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DarkGrey:

Sadly im using DirecWay Sat-DSL

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DarkGrey:

Not too slow, not very fast either

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cheatersrealm:

~[5~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~/c

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sandeen:

is it possible to configure sound off in myth? I'm trying to sort out my HD playback performance problem, and mplayer -nosound works while mplayer doesn't... i'd like to try the same thing in myth....

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eidolon:

ohhkay. eveyrthing's running.

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mchou:

DarkGrey: why not just get some wireless nics?

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DarkGrey:

nics?

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mchou:

wireless network cards/adaptes

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mchou:

adapters*

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DarkGrey:

i do have one, it just doesnt work right..

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DarkGrey:

a netgear WG111T

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DarkGrey:

the drivers dont do anything, ive tried

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DarkGrey:

ndiswrapper

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seth|laptop:

i have had pretty good luck w/ ndiswrapper

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DarkGrey:

i know, i have with other cards too :(

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mchou:

DarkGrey: best if you just used wired ethernet

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EricAnderson:

I was wondering if I could get some help with my mythbox. Everything used to work, but I had to re-emerge my system thanks to a chain of updates, now I run mythtv-setup and I can configure my pvr-150, it even "probes" the required info, however then the backend runs and the errorlog says it cant find a capture card. Any ideas?

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mchou:

DarkGrey: even a cross-over cale would work

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mchou:

cable*

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DarkGrey:

so i could link my xp with my linux

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DarkGrey:

?

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mchou:

yup

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mchou:

DarkGrey: yup

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EricAnderson:

Any help?

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mchou:

EricAnderson: yup. permissions

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EricAnderson:

i checked that, mythtv has group permission "video" which is required to access /dev/v4l/video0

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marxes:

what distro are you running?

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EricAnderson:

gentoo

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mchou:

god damn western digital

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mchou:

shit drives

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brad_mssw:

anyone in here have the LinkPlayer2? Just interested how well it works with 0.20's upnp ...

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EricAnderson:

seems funny to me that myth-setup could access /dev/v4l/video0 but mythbackend couldnt if they are both run by the same user

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mchou:

EricAnderson: run mythbackend temporarily as root and see if you have same issues

[04:02:25]

EricAnderson:

k, good call

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EricAnderson:

is this relevant: 2006-12–04 21:03:09.720 ChannelBase(1) Error: InitializeInputs():

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EricAnderson:

Could not get inputs for the capturecard.

[04:03:46]

EricAnderson:

Perhaps you have forgotten to bind video

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EricAnderson:

sources to your card's inputs?

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mchou:

lol

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mchou:

why dont you RTFM and get back to us.

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EricAnderson:

A.) dont be a dick. B.) The only thing in the error log was: ERROR: no valid capture cards are defined in the database.

[04:05:42]

EricAnderson:

If you dont want to help people why are you in a user support channel?

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mchou:

EricAnderson: http://catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

[04:08:40]

EricAnderson:

Look dude, I didnt have all the info and I didnt know how to get it, thanks for the root suggestion, it was helpful, the rest of the noise you have provided is just being elitist, which i understand, you deal with stupid questions all the time, but ya know, maybe, just maybe, not all of us see every problem that comes this way and this isnt quite so trivial

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mchou:

EricAnderson: except yours IS trivial

[04:09:15]

EricAnderson:

TO YOU

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mchou:

especially sincethe error log suggests what to do

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EricAnderson:

the error log didnt give me ANYTHING but "ERROR: no valid capture cards are defined in the database." ... I didnt even get that damn ChannelBase error until I did your root suggestion

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mchou:

EricAnderson: bullshit

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EricAnderson:

I shit you not dude

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mchou:

EricAnderson: this is covered in the official myth docs

[04:11:20]

mchou:

EricAnderson: it's called "doing the modicum of homework"

[04:11:23]

EricAnderson:

Fine, look, I dont give a damn if you believe me or not, but I had NO useful information prior to running mythtv as root. Blame Gentoo if you'd like.

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mchou:

EricAnderson: the blame rests completely with you.

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EricAnderson:

Alright dude

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scott_:

I'll happily blame gentoo

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EricAnderson:

You're super cool

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EricAnderson:

And so smart

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mchou:

dont try to divert to something else

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EricAnderson:

You even know what my logs say

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EricAnderson:

even though I can cat them and you cant

[04:12:10]

EricAnderson:

amazing

[04:12:49]

EricAnderson:

Maybe you should get out in the world and interact with people for a little bit, maybe then you'll realize being an elitist prick isn't so fucking cool

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mchou:

I know that you havent done your homework, that's more than enough to tell me you can be trusted to read thru your logs carefully

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mchou:

cant*

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EricAnderson:

Dude, Last 10 lines of my log:

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EricAnderson:

ERROR: no valid capture cards are defined in the database.

[04:13:16]

EricAnderson:

Perhaps you should read the installation instructions?

[04:13:16]

EricAnderson:

Starting up as the master server.

[04:13:16]

EricAnderson:

ERROR: no valid capture cards are defined in the database.

[04:13:17]

EricAnderson:

Perhaps you should read the installation instructions?

[04:13:18]

EricAnderson:

Starting up as the master server.

[04:13:20]

EricAnderson:

Starting up as the master server.

[04:13:22]

EricAnderson:

Starting up as the master server.

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EricAnderson:

ERROR: no valid capture cards are defined in the database.

[04:13:26]

EricAnderson:

Perhaps you should read the installation instructions?

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mchou:

lol

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scott_:

define some capture cards in mythtv-setup and get rid of that error message

[04:13:58]

mchou:

who gives a crap what the last 10 lines say? It's the whole log that matters

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sandeen:

EricAnderson, sounds like maybe you should check to see if there are any cards defined

[04:14:14]

EricAnderson:

sandeen: The card is defined, in mythtv-setup

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EricAnderson:

It even "probed" what type it is

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jams:

did you have the backend turned off when running mythtv-setup?

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EricAnderson:

yup

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EricAnderson:

even rebooted after configuring to be sure that all was well

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mchou:

bullshit

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mchou:

the log just told you what to do

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mchou:

and you still are grovelling

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EricAnderson:

DUDE, You are such a fucking prick

[04:16:18]

EricAnderson:

If you dont want to help go away

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EricAnderson:

Let these other people atleast try

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cconstantine:

Hey guys, I have a fresh ubuntu install with mythtv .20 installed and I'm having troubles connecting to mysql

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sandeen:

mchou, you're being a bit of an ass IMNSHO. I deal with complex stuff all day long and myth was a beast to configure

[04:16:37]

mchou:

EricAnderson: http://catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#id273364

[04:16:58]

sandeen:

IMNSHO :)

[04:17:25]

scott_:

in my not so honest opinion?

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mchou:

sandeen: I dont care how complicated myth is to set up. That's beside the point. The point is this stuff is covered in the docs

[04:17:37]

sandeen:

scott_, humble :)

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mchou:

and the log tells him EXACTLY what's wrong

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cconstantine:

I've created the db (mysql < mc.sql), I've told mysql to listen everywhere, and opened up privilages in the db

[04:18:06]

EricAnderson:

mchou: Whats wrong then? If its so simple and Im so dense, whats wrong?

[04:18:17]

Shikkie:

looks like he needs to setup his capture card in the mythtv setup area

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scott_:

cconstantine: you're having trouble connecting to mysql or mythtv is having trouble?

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mchou:

EricAnderson: READ the fucking log and and docs

[04:18:39]

EricAnderson:

I DID READ THE LOGS YOU STUPID FUCK

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cconstantine:

scott_: mythtv is, mythtv-setup specificaly. I can connect from bash easily enough (mysql mythconverg)

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mchou:

EricAnderson: bullshit

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mchou:

[20:03:47] <EricAnderson> Perhaps you have forgotten to bind video

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mchou:

[20:03:47] <EricAnderson> sources to your card's inputs?

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scott_:

cconstantine: have all the qt3-mysql-mt type packages installed?

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mchou:

which part of that dont you understand?

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EricAnderson:

Which part of THAT WASNT IN THE FUCKING LOG dont you understand

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sandeen:

EricAnderson, you did paste that in

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mchou:

sandeen: lol

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EricAnderson:

I only got that after running it as root and ahving the console to look at

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EricAnderson:

THE LOG ONLY SAID: ERROR: no valid capture cards are defined in the database.

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cconstantine:

scott_: oh that would be silly if I don't have the db drivers :)

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cconstantine:

scott_: let me check

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cconstantine:

scott_: looks like it was installed for me

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scott_:

cconstantine: when you start mythtv-setup does it give any errors in the console log?

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cconstantine:

scott_: many

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cconstantine:

scott_: where's good to post?

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jams:

use pastebin.ca

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scott_:

pastebin.ca although I'm not good at looking at error messages :( but i'll try still

[04:22:45]

kslater:

anyone running mythtv to an HD set around to answer an easy question?

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cconstantine:

scott_: well, i think this is the most important one

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cconstantine:

scott_: Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: NO)

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jams:

kslater- whats the question

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kslater:

if you have an SD recording is it upscaled to fit your HD modeline settings? or does myth invoke a mode change?

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scott_:

cconstantine: so it's a mysql config problem looks like, for me I have to specify the hostname of the computer, not use localhost

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jams:

either or, depends on how myth is setup

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cconstantine:

scott_: so IP-iffy it?

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jams:

kslater- either or, depends on how myth is setup

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scott_:

cconstantine: you could try 'mysql -h localhost -u mythtv -pmythtv mythconverg'

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kslater:

jams, so it might do a video mode change, that's what I was wondering

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scott_:

see if it tells you access denied, then i'd suggest susbtituting localhost for the hostname of the machine

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jams:

kslater- if you enable the option it will

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brad_mssw:

.... anyone got the IO-Data LinkPlayer2?

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kslater:

got it

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kslater:

the hd stuff is new to me

[04:26:27]

kslater:

still trying to get my head around the options

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cconstantine:

scott_: that worked

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scott_:

using localhost worked?

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cconstantine:

indeed

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jams:

kslater- by default it uses the same mode across the board, it's something that needs to be enabled in one of the many setup screens

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cconstantine:

scott_ and using the ip in mysql.txt didn't fix it

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kslater:

jams – you have this running?

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scott_:

cconstantine: I don't know

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kslater:

if so which way are you using it?

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cconstantine:

scott_: it's almost like it's not even trying

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marxes:

cconstantine, I got the same thing

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jams:

well right now I use the same mode for everthing

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marxes:

cconstantine, I had to use a command line switch for request password

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jams:

i got tired of the screen flash when X11 changed resolutions

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kslater:

what resolution? x by y?

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cconstantine:

marxes: a switch to myth or mysql?

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jams:

oh i'm running 1280x720

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marxes:

mysql

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kslater:

720p

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kslater:

that's going to be my 1st choice

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cconstantine:

marxes but I'm able to connect just fine that way

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kslater:

tv might not be up to it though

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cconstantine:

marxes it's mythtv that can't connect

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kslater:

cheapo Samsung that can do 1080i

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jams:

right, thats the res that mythtv wide themes want to be at

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marxes:

cconstantine....oh, sorry to confuse the issue =p

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cconstantine:

marxes np, you're trying to help :)

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kslater:

but I'd settle for 960 x 540p

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jams:

i have one running at 848x480

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sandeen:

is there any way to run the myth video player outside of myth? or is that called "mplayer?" Strange question maybe...

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jams:

works well

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jams:

sandeen- mythtv $filename

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kslater:

your 848 x 480 does it downscale 1080i HD content correctly?

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sandeen:

jams, hah, ok :)

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sandeen:

thanks

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jams:

kslater- the 848x480 has some problems with scaling but for the most part I don't notice it

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cconstantine:

Ok, i got most of the DB issues worked out

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cconstantine:

but now mythbackend only starts manualy, not from /etc/init.d/mythbackend. Ubuntu still, any ideas?

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a1fa``:

hello

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a1fa``:

Quick question, if you delete tuners and channel sources, will you lose your recorded shows database?

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cconstantine:

I see no reason for that to happen

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a1fa``:

yeah me too

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a1fa``:

i just needed to make sure

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a1fa``:

i would hate for it to re record all the shows i watched

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a1fa``:

i am going to buy an additional SATA controler + 4 disks for Christmass

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a1fa``:

4 x 500 GB

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JDStone:

I'm getting:

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JDStone:

Error

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JDStone:

Please install the MySQL libraries for PHP.

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JDStone:

The package is usually called something like php-mysql.

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JDStone:

when accessing mythweb

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a1fa``:

I want to go into 2tier architecture

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a1fa``:

by mid next year

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JDStone:

I have php5-mysql and php5-mysqli installed

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a1fa``:

store the backend in the cold carage

[05:00:21]

** sandeen wishes he could make myth keep up w/o xvmc like everyone else seems to be able to **

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a1fa``:

with UPS backup =)

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Agrajag-:

JDStone: make sure the mysql extension is enabled in your apache's php.ini

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|Atum|:

Hello everyone :-)

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|Atum|:

Anyone wake?

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a1fa``:

yeah

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|Atum|:

It helps if I don't accidentally back out of the java irc client ;-)

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|Atum|:

Ho are you doing a1fa

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|Atum|:

how*

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|Atum|:

Im just dinking around with mythtv for the first time trying to get it all set up. having some difficulties so I figured id come here if these resources on the mailing list do not pan out soon :-)

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JDStone:

Agrajag-: thanks, I found a webpage that told me

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a1fa``:

ok

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a1fa``:

|Atum|: make sure you read the WIKI before posting

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a1fa``:

and search throughly

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|Atum|:

Ive been there for about 5 hours now ;-)

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|Atum|:

I was all excited once it got installed and setup...then I hit a snag. Backed out to make sure the capture card was ok (it works in tvtime) and so I'm pointing to my myth config again

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clop:

hi, i wonder if someone can explain to me what commercial detection does? i see that it runs after my shows record, but i'm not sure how to "skip past them" or whatever after they have been flagged? is there a special button for this or...?

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|Atum|:

clop: Somewhere in the TV Setup there is an option to 'automatically skip commercials' or to prompt or whatnot

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clop:

|Atum|, oh, ok, i'll take a look for that, thanks :)

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|Atum|:

No problem clop

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|Atum|:

Sorry I can't be more accurate – I'm still working on getting my mythtv to work LOL

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|Atum|:

I've just seen the option when configuring :)

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a1fa``:

HDMI is same as DVI?

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|Atum|:

HDMI This is a more modern version of DVI and is technically backwards compatible. It uses a smaller more manageable connector. You can get an DVI to HDMI adaptors if you need to connect your PC graphics card DVI connector to the latest HDMI displays. The latest HDMI connections will also be able to carry digital multi-channel audio down the same cable.

[05:25:18]

|Atum|:

according to http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/User_Manual:Setting_Up

[05:25:42]

a1fa``:

cool

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a1fa``:

just making sure

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a1fa``:

i want to pick up a tv.. i dont know if i want to do plasma or lcd

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a1fa``:

or rear projection

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|Atum|:

A friend of mine did some comparissons on plasma / lcd. he offered me limited insight of pros/cons. Eventually he went with LCD due to the amount of light in the room makes for bad plasma display he said

[05:27:21]

|Atum|:

With the distance he was viewing from the tv. You'd do well to look up the pros/ cons of both because I hear there is no clear winner.

[05:27:33]

lotia:

anyone here who's familiar with svn?

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a1fa``:

lotia: program?

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lotia:

are the fixes also applied to the http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/tags/release-0-20 branch?

[05:28:40]

lotia:

a1fa``: yes, as pertaining to mythtv

[05:29:40]

a1fa``:

yeah

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a1fa``:

they should be in the 0–20 branch allready i believe

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|Atum|:

Well I think I'm officially stuck after 5 hours with a NVR Can't open video device: /dev/video0 when I try to record or watch Live TV.

[05:31:48]

|Atum|:

Unfortunately another user didn't get an answer to a similar problem description :

[05:32:03]

lotia:

a1fa``: so then branch/0-20-fixes and release-0–20 are the same?

[05:32:18]

lotia:

|Atum|: whats up?

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lotia:

|Atum|: what distro?

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|Atum|:

SLED 10

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lotia:

|Atum|: as what user does your backend run?

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Mattwj2005:

hey guys....I bought my first Christmas tree today :)

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|Atum|:

lotia: root

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lotia:

|Atum|: what do the verbose logs say?

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|Atum|:

lotia – /var/log/mythtv/mythtvbackend.log correct?

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lotia:

|Atum|: yes?

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a1fa``:

congrats

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a1fa``:

i burned my tree this year

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a1fa``:

in protest of commercial christmass

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Mattwj2005:

lol you burned it?

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Mattwj2005:

:P

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|Atum|:

2006-12–04 21:05:30.779 TVRec(1): Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV

[05:35:07]

|Atum|:

2006-12–04 21:05:30.803 TVRec(1): HW Tuner: 1->1

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|Atum|:

strange error flushing buffer ...

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|Atum|:

2006-12–04 21:05:32.107 NVR: Can't open video device: /dev/video0

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|Atum|:

open video:: Device or resource busy

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|Atum|:

2006-12–04 21:06:11.897 TVRec(1): Changing from WatchingLiveTV to None

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Mattwj2005:

my Christmas tree has fiber optics :)

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|Atum|:

mythtv-setup can scan the channels just fine. tvtime plays back from the card just fine (PCTV USB2 by Pinnacle using em28xx driver)

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a1fa``:

Mattwj2005: no i just chunked it out

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|Atum|:

Mattwj2005: So does ours. The best part is you just pull it out of the box to set it up :-)

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a1fa``:

what size LCD should I buy

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Mattwj2005:

definitely

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a1fa``:

Mattwj2005: pictures of your tree?

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Mattwj2005:

no clean up either

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a1fa``:

25" good enough?

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Mattwj2005:

not yet

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|Atum|:

Yeah Mattwj2005

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|Atum|:

I've got some pictures of ours last year – standby

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Mattwj2005:

I still need to decorate it

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|Atum|:

see our tree at http://moaph.blogspot.com/

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|Atum|:

Picture from last year – but I assure you, the setup is the same ;-)!

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Mattwj2005:

nice

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Mattwj2005:

I made a video clip...let me upload it youtube

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a1fa``:

sweet

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a1fa``:

mopah that sounds familiar

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a1fa``:

you dont hang out in motorcycles on efnet

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|Atum|:

No – moaph = musings of a puyallup homeowner ;)

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|Atum|:

I created it to chronicle our journey (ha) as new homeowners

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|Atum|:

As you can see our first month here was rather eventful: a septic backup, a large tree fall, snow...

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|Atum|:

Thats why Myth has been put off for the last 8 months! Between the wedding, buying the house, moving, etc. I just now got some free time.

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a1fa``:

i hope you had insurance

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|Atum|:

Of course. Luckily the tree didnt _hit_ our house, but simply fell away from it (thank goodness)

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a1fa``:

i am going to buy a house in 2007

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a1fa``:

3bed,2bath

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a1fa``:

for less then 80k

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a1fa``:

90k

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a1fa``:

i hope

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|Atum|:

nice. USD?

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a1fa``:

yeah

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|Atum|:

Wow :-) I wish our market was like that

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a1fa``:

im in Arkansas

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a1fa``:

and housing market has slow down

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|Atum|:

our 2 bedroom 1.5bath on .87 acre was 285

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a1fa``:

everybody wants to get rid of their house

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a1fa``:

damn dude

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a1fa``:

California?

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|Atum|:

Washington

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burner:

damn

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|Atum|:

(State)

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a1fa``:

Its the land, not the house ;)

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a1fa``:

on the coast?

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|Atum|:

about 45 miles south of Seattle or so

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burner:

we paid 360k USD for our crib

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a1fa``:

damn dude

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burner:

78kvm

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a1fa``:

you must be making more then 100k to afford that

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a1fa``:

you and your spouse 100 each :)

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