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| [00:39:04] | grfox: | what is the current stae of support for SKY type DVB-S in Mythtv? |
| [00:39:09] | grfox: | *state |
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| [00:41:13] | GreyFoxx: | as far as I know sky is totally encyrpted and doesn't allow cams, so you would have to use a sky stb and plug it into atuner of some port (pvr 150?) |
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| [00:42:16] | grfox: | how come cams are disallowed? I thought they allowed you to plug in the subscription card? |
| [00:42:28] | grfox: | stb? |
| [00:42:38] | simcop2387: | eval: $x = 4195835; $y = 3145727; $z = $x – ($x/$y)*$y; $z |
| [00:42:43] | simcop2387: | er crap |
| [00:42:49] | simcop2387: | stupid me wrong channel sorry |
| [00:42:58] | GreyFoxx: | grfox: I'm only going on what I've seen Sky customer say |
| [00:43:06] | GreyFoxx: | stb = set top box/receiver |
| [00:45:27] | grfox: | hmm |
| [00:45:45] | grfox: | I see plenty of setups with stb to pc setups |
| [00:45:50] | grfox: | but they dont seem very elegant to me |
| [00:46:05] | sputnick: | hmm weird |
| [00:46:34] | sputnick: | ati-drivers fucks up my mythtv |
| [00:47:15] | GreyFoxx: | sputnick: howso ? |
| [00:48:04] | grfox: | has there been an elegant solution for doing the EPG for Freeview (DVB-T) |
| [00:48:29] | grfox: | or is it still done with cron based scripts and python based work arounds? |
| [00:49:01] | GreyFoxx: | as far as I know freevieww users just get the EIT data right off the wire |
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| [00:50:34] | grfox: | EIT? |
| [00:50:46] | GreyFoxx: | the programs listings/epg data :) |
| [00:51:00] | grfox: | so they dont need xmltv anymore? |
| [00:51:17] | grfox: | and the problem with BBC1 changing freq no longer exists? |
| [00:53:08] | sputnick: | GreyFoxx: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3726641.html#3726641 |
| [00:53:13] | GreyFoxx: | I don't know if they still use xmltv as I don';t know how far into the future the EIT data is, so they might well use xmltv to get a further intothe future |
| [00:53:20] | GreyFoxx: | and no idea on the BBC thing :) |
| [00:54:33] | GreyFoxx: | sputnick: Ok, just checking to see if it was colour shifting problem |
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| [01:00:05] | sputnick: | nope |
| [01:00:16] | sputnick: | just got the graphics show up |
| [01:00:21] | sputnick: | the frontend |
| [01:00:23] | sputnick: | or somethign |
| [01:00:35] | sputnick: | no more floating point exception |
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| [01:02:33] | WeezeyD: | where does the encoder ID number line up with the mythbackend? |
| [01:03:28] | ** grfox considers the developer channel for his quest ** | |
| [01:03:34] | grfox: | oh the flames :P |
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| [01:29:48] | banyan: | happy diwali everybody. anyone else's mythfrontend pooping on startup? |
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| [01:34:09] | PaulWay: | nup |
| [01:34:24] | banyan: | segfault segfault, wherefore art thou segfault? |
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| [01:49:36] | banyan: | smoky entrails of mythfrontend gutted on the floor... |
| [01:50:19] | banyan: | coals of hot plasmoid-singed core glowing orange in the dead carcass... |
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| [01:53:53] | banyan: | A quivering kernel's shaky hand, blowing cool air on the growing blister of hyper-heated flesh that mythfrontend left on it. |
| [01:59:54] | banyan: | kernel looks at deceased bits, wipes away a tear from an eye and whispers, "why? Why.... was it something I said?" |
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| [02:06:57] | banyan: | Oprah's minge has an English accent? |
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| [02:19:00] | banyan: | anyone having a problem with mythfrontend segfaulting when it starts up? |
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| [02:21:13] | cecil: | nope |
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| [02:21:19] | rtyler: | for some reason MythBrowser "traps" my keyboard |
| [02:21:26] | rtyler: | I can't ESC back to the main Myth menus :/ |
| [02:21:42] | rtyler: | anybody got any ideas? :/ |
| [02:23:07] | rtyler: | the only way I can gain control again is to kill X :/ |
| [02:23:59] | banyan: | nasty. |
| [02:24:34] | rtyler: | heh, no kidding |
| [02:24:49] | banyan: | what if you alt-f4? |
| [02:25:08] | rtyler: | i'll try that in a sec, time to drive over to install the machine :P |
| [02:26:40] | banyan: | I am having worse luck, as of updating kernels in fc6, I can't start my frontend except in a vnc session. |
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| [02:47:08] | Vantage13: | hi, I'm having a small problem. When watching live TV if I load the program guide mythfrontend crashes. It doesn't crash when viewing the guide in manage recordings. Any idea what might cause that? |
| [02:51:13] | xris: | Vantage13: run with "-v all" |
| [02:53:19] | jams: | in the past certain opengl configurations would cause that |
| [02:55:12] | Vantage13: | jams: opengl configured in X or in mythtv? |
| [02:55:30] | xris: | both? |
| [02:55:42] | Vantage13: | xris: good tip. Lots of output. Is there a place I can paste the output? |
| [02:55:59] | xris: | Vantage13: topic.. and you should only need the last page or so |
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| [02:57:55] | Vantage13: | xris: thanks. http://pastebin.ca/252136 |
| [02:58:14] | Vantage13: | Where would I find opengl options in mythtv? mythtv-setup somewhere? |
| [03:01:02] | jams: | Vantage13- did you compile it yourself? |
| [03:02:25] | Vantage13: | nope, debian packages from debian-multimedia.org |
| [03:04:44] | jams: | nvidia driver? |
| [03:07:19] | Vantage13: | jams: ati (fglrx) |
| [03:08:48] | jams: | you know I might be thinking of the preview window in the playback section |
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| [03:09:10] | GreyFoxx: | http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Letters/541660.html1 |
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| [03:16:39] | hjohnson: | I was sorely tempted by this 32" LCD HDTV at Costco.. |
| [03:16:49] | hjohnson: | it had a D-SUB and HDMI input |
| [03:17:53] | Ross_C: | anyone running 11777 svn? I had a db upgrade error going from schema 1167 to 1167 |
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| [03:20:15] | Ross_C: | http://pastebin.ca/252151 – details on db upgrade failure |
| [03:23:29] | Ross_C: | error is in sql to create new table dvdbookmark |
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| [03:24:16] | linolium: | hello! Can I get TV listings in mythtv without having a TV tuner input? |
| [03:24:42] | Ross_C: | yes – you just need to sign up with zap2it |
| [03:25:06] | linolium: | I did that but I am not sure where to put the username and password |
| [03:26:04] | xris: | linolium: mythtvsetup, sources (I think that's what it's called) |
| [03:26:18] | xris: | should be called "listings sources" or something like that, but I think it's "video sources" |
| [03:27:47] | linolium: | hmm, what does it mean when I start up mythtv-setup and it shows the background image for a while, but then just switches to a black background with nothing else? |
| [03:30:35] | xris: | linolium: sounds like you're missing something. |
| [03:30:47] | xris: | should be icons for various things like configuring channels, video cards, etc. |
| [03:31:23] | linolium: | says something about "mythtv: could not connect to socket", but I am sure the backend is running |
| [03:31:42] | xris: | backend shouldn't be running for setup |
| [03:31:57] | xris: | (though it will work well enough if it is — just warns you) |
| [03:36:43] | Ross_C: | hey – how do I get an account at svn.mythtv.org for trac to file a ticket? login screen goes to login box and fails with no other info. |
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| [03:57:05] | tremby: | this isn't strictly a mythtv question, but it's the best place i can think of to ask. everything used to be fine, and as far as i know i haven't changed any settings, but now when i play any video, all i can see is the top half of the video stretched to fill the full area. it's the same in vlc and mplayer. osd things like the volume indicator are pushed off the bottom too. any ideas what's going on? |
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| [04:00:47] | linolium: | what does this mean: "If this is the master backend server, please run 'mythfilldatabase' to populate the database with channel information" |
| [04:00:48] | banyan: | I have a crash problem as well. mythfrontend won't start except in a vnc session. It seems not to like the X server, or the nvidia card... or something. |
| [04:01:13] | banyan: | It means run mythfilldatabase to populate the database with channel information. |
| [04:01:35] | banyan: | because your backend probably hasn't got any listing info. |
| [04:01:44] | linolium: | I cannot run mythfilldatabase since I do not have a tv tuner |
| [04:02:04] | banyan: | sure you can. You'll get listings. |
| [04:02:23] | banyan: | you won't be able to record them but they'll be there. |
| [04:02:49] | banyan: | or maybe I should ask the obvious question. If you don't have a tuner why are you running myth? |
| [04:02:53] | linolium: | banyan, if I run mythfilldatabase it gives me the error "there are no channel sources defined, did you run the setup program?" |
| [04:03:03] | linolium: | banyan: just to open media and such |
| [04:03:17] | banyan: | like to play movies and so on? |
| [04:03:21] | linolium: | yes |
| [04:03:27] | banyan: | so really you just want to run mythvideo. |
| [04:03:39] | banyan: | well, forget about the message and start mythfrontend. |
| [04:03:51] | linolium: | well, I would also like to look at tv listings and play music, etc |
| [04:03:56] | banyan: | or is the problem that you can't get a backend to run so the frontend won't run? |
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| [04:04:21] | linolium: | no, the backend runs |
| [04:04:32] | banyan: | can you go into the video area on the frontend? |
| [04:05:58] | banyan: | It's media library / watch videos |
| [04:07:52] | banyan: | If you can, then the only way I can think of to get listings is somehow to set up a fake capture device that you don't really have and configure a channel listing fetch against it. |
| [04:08:22] | banyan: | but that might make the backend crash, heh. |
| [04:09:41] | linolium: | what does it mean when you start up mythfrontend and all you get is black screen? |
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| [04:12:45] | banyan: | It means bad things. |
| [04:12:49] | banyan: | heh... |
| [04:12:55] | linolium: | great.. |
| [04:13:00] | banyan: | I would check your log to see what's happening. |
| [04:13:18] | banyan: | did you start it with -l <some log file>? |
| [04:14:22] | linolium: | no, but I will |
| [04:14:46] | banyan: | Good luck with that. My installation has gone all batty as well. |
| [04:15:23] | banyan: | segfaults on startup unless I run the frontend in a vnc session... the playback on a pvr-350 TV-out take 50% of the CPU... |
| [04:15:50] | linolium: | erlack |
| [04:17:13] | linolium: | hm, the only thing that looks bad in the log file is "mythtv: could not connect to socket" |
| [04:19:14] | banyan: | what did it say before that? is that for lirc? or is that for the backend? |
| [04:19:51] | banyan: | anyhoo, gotta go diwali partying. |
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| [04:20:09] | banyan: | ttfn |
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| [04:26:43] | rothgar: | anyone usng mythtv .20 and using separate computers for backend/frontend? |
| [04:27:26] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [04:27:41] | rothgar: | I still cannot get my frontend to connect to my backend |
| [04:27:47] | rothgar: | the mysql will not connect |
| [04:28:14] | GreyFoxx: | what precisely isthe error message? |
| [04:28:15] | rothgar: | can you maybe give me a hand? :) |
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| [04:29:21] | rothgar: | well, basically it cannot connect and the error keeps echoing that |
| [04:30:04] | rothgar: | I have edited /home/mythtv/.mythtv/mysql.txt to have the password and ip of the backend (I got the info from the backends mysql.txt) |
| [04:30:08] | GreyFoxx: | I need the exact error :) |
| [04:30:38] | cathy_: | Q: how do u make a pl script into a daemon? I'm having a bit of trouble with the STB's change-channel-lirc.pl file |
| [04:30:53] | rothgar: | I will put it on pastebin... |
| [04:30:57] | GreyFoxx: | k |
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| [04:32:13] | rothgar: | www.pastebin.com/827850 |
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| [04:32:45] | rothgar: | I also read through the documentation on mythtv.org to make sure any box had permission to connect to the mythconverg DB |
| [04:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | And you say you got the IP of trhe database fromthe backends config ? |
| [04:33:52] | rothgar: | well, the mysql.txt on the backend shows the host as localhost (but when I changed that to the ip the backend couldn't connect to itself |
| [04:34:14] | rothgar: | I got the password from the backend's mysql.txt |
| [04:34:35] | GreyFoxx: | Your mysql is likely not listening on the external IP or not on any Ip and is only reachable via local unix sockets |
| [04:34:40] | cathy_: | when i startup mythbackend as a user (to see the startup messages) the change-channel-lirc file exits "without errors" but I don't want it to exit — i need it to stay active so that it continues to receive the signals from the irblaster |
| [04:34:50] | GreyFoxx: | netstat -antu | grep 3306 |
| [04:34:54] | GreyFoxx: | what doesthat return ? |
| [04:35:42] | rothgar: | just to be sure, I need to run that on the backend right? |
| [04:35:48] | GreyFoxx: | yes :) |
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| [04:36:48] | rothgar: | all it shows is tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:3306 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN |
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| [04:37:13] | GreyFoxx: | So your mysql isn't configuredtolisten on the external IP,hence the frontend and backend can't connect to it on that IP |
| [04:37:41] | GreyFoxx: | you likely have a my.cnf file which has it set to bind to localhost only |
| [04:38:18] | rothgar: | that would make sense, where is the my.cnf file? |
| [04:38:34] | GreyFoxx: | it can vary, mine is in /etc/ |
| [04:39:48] | cathy_: | pls...desperate for some help...have scoured the online howtos/documentation for days...dearth of info on STB's is incredible |
| [04:39:58] | ** Strider just installed 2.6.18, and is prepping the ivtv drivers ** | |
| [04:40:07] | Strider: | hopefully this iwll fix the LNA problems on the PVR-500 |
| [04:41:37] | rothgar: | find / my.cnf should show me where it is right? |
| [04:42:04] | cathy_: | rothgar: my.cnf is in /etc/mysql/ |
| [04:42:14] | cathy_: | for my distro, anyway |
| [04:42:22] | rothgar: | what is your distro? |
| [04:42:31] | cathy_: | kubuntu edgy |
| [04:42:50] | rothgar: | well that works cause I am using ubuntu edgy |
| [04:42:52] | rothgar: | thanks |
| [04:42:58] | cathy_: | np |
| [04:43:30] | cathy_: | it's a great distro |
| [04:43:50] | rothgar: | I prefer kubuntu |
| [04:44:26] | cathy_: | well, u can always download kubuntu-desktop then...that's what i did, after the server and a few other things |
| [04:44:49] | rothgar: | I really like enlightenment but there are no builds of that |
| [04:45:02] | rothgar: | and I know I would just screw things up |
| [04:45:25] | cathy_: | now i take it i'm not going to get any help with the stb/daemon issue...:( |
| [04:45:51] | rothgar: | GreyFoxx: what do I need to change in the my.cnf file to set it to listen for the frontend? |
| [04:47:10] | rothgar: | I am guessing it is bind address |
| [04:47:15] | rothgar: | but I have been wrong before |
| [04:48:37] | GreyFoxx: | comment outthe bind address line and restart mysql |
| [04:49:29] | Strider: | ooohh! ivtv 0.8 makes the video purty! |
| [04:49:39] | cathy_: | don't know why i'm surprised...i always give and get help in other irc channels, but not here :( just some feedback |
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| [04:51:45] | rothgar: | as if I didn't show how much of a n00b I am already, how do I restart mysql? :) |
| [04:52:46] | rothgar: | I tried sudo mysql restart :) |
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| [04:56:14] | rothgar: | oh, I know how to restart it...sudo shutdown |
| [04:56:36] | banyan: | rothgar, that'll reboot the whole machine. |
| [04:57:37] | rothgar: | yes I know |
| [04:57:44] | rothgar: | and restart mysql in the process |
| [04:57:51] | rothgar: | at least I hope it starts up |
| [04:58:28] | Ross_C: | okay, so how can I figure out what SVN version is associated with a particular DB schema – i.e. 1167? What file do I need to check revision history on? |
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| [05:03:06] | GreyFoxx: | lib/libmythtv/dbcheck.cpp |
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| [05:03:17] | savageone: | howdie folks |
| [05:03:25] | GreyFoxx: | And if you re talking about the mysql 3.23 stuff it's fixed now |
| [05:03:34] | savageone: | I'm thinking of abandoning knoppmyth |
| [05:03:37] | rtyler: | ok, honestly, the mysql/postgresql dependency is stupid -_- |
| [05:03:41] | savageone: | and just doing a ubuntu install w/ mythtv |
| [05:03:53] | savageone: | opinions on ubuntu w/ mythtv or another distro being better? |
| [05:04:15] | xris: | rtyler: how is "there are proprietary mysqlisms in the code, so we can't change until they're fixed" stupid? |
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| [05:04:36] | GreyFoxx: | rtyler: Huh? There is no postgres dependancy |
| [05:04:46] | GreyFoxx: | Or are you referring to the lack of postgres support ? |
| [05:04:56] | mchou: | sigh... |
| [05:05:23] | xris: | GreyFoxx: not that it'll matter once mysql gets embedded |
| [05:05:28] | rtyler: | GreyFoxx: from my understanding its either or |
| [05:05:36] | xris: | rtyler: no, it's just mysql |
| [05:05:38] | GreyFoxx: | rtsai: No, it's mysql only |
| [05:05:45] | GreyFoxx: | err rtyler |
| [05:05:47] | rtyler: | ah, lame :/ |
| [05:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | can'tplease everyone :) |
| [05:06:03] | mchou: | GreyFoxx: you happen to know if isaac is still considering sqlite? |
| [05:06:26] | rtyler: | GreyFoxx: supporting postgres doesn't bother me, needing an external database for myth does |
| [05:06:27] | xris: | mchou: he is not |
| [05:06:31] | xris: | it failed the speed test |
| [05:06:37] | xris: | latest I've heard is "embedded mysql" |
| [05:06:38] | GreyFoxx: | mchou: Nope, far to slow for many things, but embedded mysql is posasible |
| [05:06:42] | mchou: | xris: so sqlite got canned? |
| [05:06:57] | Captain_Murdoch: | xris, you left off the word "miserably" on the end of that failed comment. :) |
| [05:07:00] | xris: | rtyler: and that'll change eventually |
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| [05:07:19] | xris: | Captain_Murdoch: I'm a perl coder. typing more words than necessary hurts my brain. :) |
| [05:07:25] | xris: | (and on that note: ouch) |
| [05:07:28] | GreyFoxx: | hehe |
| [05:07:34] | mchou: | Captain_Murdoch: was sqlite performance really that bad? |
| [05:07:47] | xris: | mchou: yes. |
| [05:07:48] | Captain_Murdoch: | from what I heard. |
| [05:07:57] | xris: | scheduler query took like 5–10 mins to run |
| [05:07:59] | Captain_Murdoch: | things like the scheduler query |
| [05:08:00] | rtyler: | the most capital of my gripes is when myth "handles errors" in that it crashes X.org entirely >_> |
| [05:08:08] | mchou: | xris: holy molly |
| [05:08:24] | GreyFoxx: | rtyler: There isno way myth can crash X, if X is crashing you have other issues |
| [05:08:29] | xris: | mchou: takes up to 30 seconds in mysql |
| [05:08:44] | mchou: | xris: yeah, sqlite aint viable in that case then :) |
| [05:08:45] | savageone: | is the newest mythtv better then the one that comes in knoppmyth anyway? |
| [05:08:50] | GreyFoxx: | rtyler: Unless you are not running a window manager |
| [05:09:01] | rtyler: | myth as the wm |
| [05:09:03] | monkeypet: | i can't believe the comflag takes up 21% of my cpu. |
| [05:09:10] | xris: | rtyler: use a window manager |
| [05:09:13] | GreyFoxx: | If you are only launching mythfrontend without a manager then of course X would rstart if the "window manager" |
| [05:09:15] | GreyFoxx: | is gone |
| [05:09:27] | mchou: | monkeypet: you should consider yourself lucky :) |
| [05:09:51] | xris: | monkeypet: it should take 99% if nothing else is going on |
| [05:10:32] | monkeypet: | xris: why not 100%? |
| [05:10:34] | banyan: | I find mysql handles the hundreds of queries that the frontend throws at it on startup quite fantastically. |
| [05:10:37] | rtyler: | xris: what wm would you recommend? |
| [05:10:37] | Captain_Murdoch: | unless you're running in ~realtime flagging mode. |
| [05:10:58] | xris: | monkeypet: kernel/init/etc needs something? (dunno — just never seen anything take 100% except on multiproc) |
| [05:11:01] | GreyFoxx: | Captain_Murdoch: Have you had anyone report mythcomflag running even if it's disabled in the databse ? |
| [05:11:02] | mchou: | so how big a footprint is embedded mysql? Hopefully it's not monstrous |
| [05:11:18] | xris: | rtyler: I just use gnome.. but any of the "box" ones are good for lightweight |
| [05:11:35] | GreyFoxx: | rtyler: Fluxbox,icewm, lots of lightweight ones out there |
| [05:11:37] | Captain_Murdoch: | GreyFoxx: think someone said that once years ago, but couldn't provide any debug info or log. |
| [05:11:39] | GreyFoxx: | Iuse icewm on all of mine |
| [05:11:53] | GreyFoxx: | Captain_Murdoch: Ok. I appear to be "suffering" from it. |
| [05:12:17] | GreyFoxx: | I saw it running and thought ".... but I thought Ihad turned thatoff" hehe |
| [05:12:18] | Captain_Murdoch: | GreyFoxx: regular recordings or livetv? |
| [05:12:18] | mchou: | xris: if it took 100 your comp would now longer respond to other events :) |
| [05:12:20] | GreyFoxx: | Checked and it was |
| [05:12:24] | GreyFoxx: | regular recordings' |
| [05:12:25] | mchou: | no* |
| [05:12:34] | GreyFoxx: | today was the first day I used LiveTV in months :) |
| [05:13:02] | xris: | mchou: like I said. :) |
| [05:13:09] | GreyFoxx: | I've done no investigation other than checking the database setting |
| [05:14:18] | Captain_Murdoch: | do you have realtime flagging on? |
| [05:14:31] | GreyFoxx: | Not that I;m aware of |
| [05:14:35] | ** GreyFoxx goes and looks ** | |
| [05:14:42] | banyan: | Realtime flagging? |
| [05:15:01] | mchou: | banyan: yup. flagging while recording |
| [05:15:16] | Captain_Murdoch: | actually ~realtime since it stays 30 seconds behind live. :) |
| [05:15:18] | banyan: | where is that set? I want to check something. |
| [05:15:40] | mchou: | Captain_Murdoch: dude, that's NOWHERE near realtime :) |
| [05:15:40] | Vantage13: | is there a way to turn off the tv view when looking at the guide? (the pip window) |
| [05:16:03] | Captain_Murdoch: | mchou: ~realtime is relative. it's a lot more realtime than 2-hours later when the movie stops recording. :) |
| [05:16:17] | mchou: | Captain_Murdoch: at least in embedded space 30 sec you're toast :) |
| [05:16:43] | Captain_Murdoch: | that's why I try to remember to put the ~ always. :) |
| [05:16:51] | mchou: | Captain_Murdoch: but I know what you mean :) |
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| [05:18:16] | GreyFoxx: | Ok, Maybe I'm blind, where is the realtime commflagging option? All I see is the regular "Commercial flag new recordings" option |
| [05:18:23] | jams: | Vantage13- editing ui.xml and removing the preview box for you theme -might- work. But I have never tried it |
| [05:18:24] | banyan: | Yeah, where is that? |
| [05:18:37] | mchou: | GreyFoxx: it's in the db :) |
| [05:18:48] | Vantage13: | jams: didn't there used to be a switch for it? |
| [05:18:49] | mchou: | table 'settings' |
| [05:18:51] | GreyFoxx: | and the flaggin jobs I saw were hours after :) |
| [05:18:57] | Captain_Murdoch: | GreyFoxx: I think it is in mythtv-setup on the jobqueue page since it can have bad effects if your system can't handle it. |
| [05:18:58] | jams: | Vantage13- not for the program guide |
| [05:19:12] | Vantage13: | jams: dang |
| [05:19:22] | banyan: | See, what happened to me is that around when I updated to 0.20, I found my playback takes 50% of my CPU (this is a PVR-350, so it should take about 0%) |
| [05:19:26] | jams: | one moment, let me try it real quick |
| [05:20:05] | Vantage13: | jams: k |
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| [05:20:15] | xris: | .20 still works with the pvr-350 output? |
| [05:20:30] | Captain_Murdoch: | yeah, just virtually unsupported right now. |
| [05:20:31] | Vantage13: | jams: I'm thinking the preview window is what's crashing my frontend, so I'd like to turn it off to find out |
| [05:20:49] | GreyFoxx: | Captain_Murdoch: I see a setting to allow flag jobs on the backend, but that;s it |
| [05:20:52] | ** xris wishes he could get mp4 support in the internal player ** | |
| [05:21:08] | jams: | Vantage13- assumed as much |
| [05:21:18] | mchou: | xris: but what records mp4? |
| [05:21:20] | jams: | doesn't solve the issue, but its a work around |
| [05:21:25] | GreyFoxx: | *gasp* It's been at least an HOUR since the last "Freevo, Tivo & MythTV" Post |
| [05:21:30] | xris: | mchou: nuvexport exports to mp4 |
| [05:21:31] | mchou: | xris: aside from SW? |
| [05:21:44] | xris: | I archive to mp4 these days |
| [05:21:50] | xris: | looks better than avi, *and* it plays on my ipod |
| [05:21:59] | Captain_Murdoch: | Greay, it's on the "Job Queue (Global)" page, called "Start Auto-Commercial Flagging jobs when the recording starts" |
| [05:22:25] | GreyFoxx: | Ok, that;'s not on |
| [05:22:27] | jams: | Vantage13- in ui.xml search for "current_video" and comment out the container |
| [05:22:36] | Captain_Murdoch: | GreyFoxx: maybe they're off coding the "quick-change" patch. :) |
| [05:22:42] | jams: | you will still have the box, but no video |
| [05:22:44] | GreyFoxx: | Captain_Murdoch: Must be |
| [05:23:01] | Captain_Murdoch: | don't know where "greay" came from.... :( |
| [05:23:10] | banyan: | Is it "autocommflagwhilerecording"? |
| [05:23:15] | Captain_Murdoch: | yes |
| [05:23:40] | banyan: | xris: you're surprised that the 350 playback works? |
| [05:23:51] | mchou: | Captain_Murdoch: why not just call that field "flagwhilerecording" :) |
| [05:23:56] | Captain_Murdoch: | see, I never use the word "realtime" in the code... :) |
| [05:23:59] | xris: | banyan: yes. it's not exactly maintained. |
| [05:24:09] | jams: | GreyFoxx- well done on the -G flag you added. Very useful! |
| [05:24:21] | banyan: | What would be involved if I took it over? |
| [05:24:32] | Captain_Murdoch: | mchou: because it only applies for auto-commflagging. if you manually flag, it will run when it can, whether it is recording or not. |
| [05:24:39] | banyan: | Keeping in mind that while I've used myth for a long time, I haven't written a lick of code for it. |
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| [05:24:44] | mchou: | Captain_Murdoch: ok |
| [05:24:56] | GreyFoxx: | Captain_Murdoch: I dropped my channel change time from 2–3 seconds down to just under 1 second earlier by messing with an ivtv setting |
| [05:25:04] | GreyFoxx: | no actualy code changes heh |
| [05:25:18] | xris: | banyan: no clue. I think that with the new X driver for the 350, no one cares anymore that mythtv would support it natively. |
| [05:25:19] | Captain_Murdoch: | it's probably Myth's fault somehow though. ;) |
| [05:25:23] | GreyFoxx: | yeah hehe |
| [05:25:27] | xris: | I think it's more a matter of supporting the framebuffer output mode. |
| [05:26:14] | banyan: | xris: that's just for framebiffer support. That's not for the playback itself. |
| [05:26:31] | banyan: | Unless I misunderstand the thinking on that... |
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| [05:26:56] | rothgar: | GreyFoxx: so I edited the my.cnf like you said and restarted the backend box and made sure it could still run the frontend too. The separate frontend box still doesn't connect :( |
| [05:27:05] | rothgar: | let me see if the error is still the same |
| [05:27:08] | xris: | banyan: I don't know much about it. the way I understand it, they were somehow integrated |
| [05:27:18] | banyan: | Oh, ok... |
| [05:27:40] | banyan: | I'm puzzled but OK. |
| [05:28:17] | banyan: | And that X driver, I thought, was going to remove the need for the framebuffer, but it actually works over the framebuffer. |
| [05:28:50] | banyan: | Anyway, as a longtime 350 user, I really want to see continuing support for the 350. |
| [05:29:00] | rothgar: | www.pastebin.com/827877 |
| [05:29:00] | mchou: | banyan: hehe |
| [05:29:04] | rothgar: | it is different this time |
| [05:29:24] | banyan: | Even if I have to buy somebody a 350 for them to work with. |
| [05:29:28] | banyan: | Or do it myself... |
| [05:29:32] | xris: | banyan: no clue. you could ask in #mythtv and see if anyone there knows. |
| [05:29:39] | mchou: | banyan: that's not really the "issue" |
| [05:29:41] | xris: | if you really want to help out, that is. |
| [05:29:57] | banyan: | It's not? I was told that was exactly the issue. |
| [05:30:16] | mchou: | banyan: I was referring to your offer of HW |
| [05:30:41] | banyan: | Yeah, I was told that none of the developers had a 350 so they didn't have any way of knowing how well it worked. |
| [05:31:14] | banyan: | Well, what is the issue then? |
| [05:31:19] | mchou: | banyan: who did most of the 350 code in myth anyways? |
| [05:31:22] | GreyFoxx: | no, it's not that they don't have any or access to them. IT's that none use them I beleive |
| [05:31:30] | Vantage13: | jams: yeah, it's the preview video causing it to crash. Any idea why that might be? |
| [05:31:42] | mchou: | yes, GreyFoxx is correct on that |
| [05:31:45] | banyan: | I don't know, mchou. |
| [05:32:01] | hjohnson: | whoa, videolan did something truely wierd to my video card |
| [05:32:05] | mchou: | banyan: not to mention 350 setup is a real PITA |
| [05:32:15] | banyan: | How so? |
| [05:32:42] | mchou: | banyan: and the playback payoff not worthwile |
| [05:32:45] | banyan: | See, the way I use mine, it's not a problem really... I use my video card / monitor for the frontend and just have the 350 out go to the tv. |
| [05:33:12] | banyan: | I tried using my nvidia card and the quality was just not there compared to the output on the 350. |
| [05:33:14] | mchou: | banyan: since it pretty much does mpeg2 only |
| [05:33:31] | rtyler: | hrm |
| [05:33:34] | xris: | banyan: that's weird. everything I've heard these days suggests the opposite.. well, for anything 5200 or newer |
| [05:33:42] | rtyler: | for some bloody reason the "hwup" process is crushing my machine |
| [05:33:47] | banyan: | This is an older nvidia card for sure. |
| [05:33:51] | rtyler: | I'm assuming its not myth related? |
| [05:33:52] | xris: | ah, yeah. |
| [05:34:04] | xris: | rtyler: nope |
| [05:34:17] | hjohnson: | when I first booted, i could go 'cat /dev/video0 > foo.mpg' and get a perfect mpeg video |
| [05:34:22] | rothgar: | what would not allow my user to connect to mysql? |
| [05:34:33] | rtyler: | rothgar: luck like mine :'( |
| [05:34:34] | mchou: | rothgar: permissions |
| [05:34:42] | banyan: | Originally I wanted to use the dvi out to my sony tube hdtv ready television but that was a pain in the butt. |
| [05:34:45] | hjohnson: | I ran videolan on the device, now i'm gettin black and white only, and statically audio |
| [05:34:51] | hjohnson: | I don't know what videolan has done to it |
| [05:35:02] | banyan: | so I tried the s-video out and it was bad, bad bad bad. |
| [05:35:10] | rothgar: | mchou: I followed the documentation to grant all to the database, but it still didn't work |
| [05:35:32] | rothgar: | rtyler: you are wrong, it is my own luck (probably worse than yours) |
| [05:35:32] | mchou: | rothgar: use mysqlclient to confirm |
| [05:35:50] | rothgar: | I have no idea what mysqlclient is :( |
| [05:36:11] | mchou: | rothgar: sheesh. do a lil bit of homework please |
| [05:36:18] | banyan: | just type mysql -u <user name> -p<password> (note there's no space between the -p and the password) |
| [05:36:22] | rtyler: | one might expect it to be a client of surts |
| [05:36:24] | rtyler: | sorts* |
| [05:36:54] | banyan: | but I expect you also have to give it some arguments to point it at the remote machine. |
| [05:36:56] | jams: | Vantage13- not really, just that vauge recollection of opengl doing it |
| [05:37:01] | Vantage13: | ok, so next problem. I have my change channel script setup and it works fine from the command line, but does nothing from within mythtv. Any idea how I can debug that? |
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| [05:37:18] | mchou: | this booger refuses to come out |
| [05:37:30] | Captain_Murdoch: | mchou: fingernails too short? |
| [05:37:35] | mchou: | I'm really digging for gold here :) |
| [05:37:50] | ** xris recommends a screwdriver ** | |
| [05:37:54] | mchou: | lol |
| [05:38:04] | mchou: | no need for lobotomy |
| [05:38:38] | mchou: | xris: philips or flat bade? |
| [05:38:43] | mchou: | blade* |
| [05:39:00] | xris: | mchou: flat, of course. |
| [05:39:05] | xris: | better for prying. :) |
| [05:39:12] | banyan: | Oh, hey, anybody know when the support's going to be rolled into a stable version of lirc for the transmitters on the mceusb2? |
| [05:39:51] | mchou: | banyan: ask $lirc |
| [05:39:55] | rtyler: | can anybody help me get my bloody ATI TV Wonder 250 working? :/ |
| [05:39:58] | mchou: | #lirc* |
| [05:40:55] | banyan: | Not much point since there is one person in it. |
| [05:41:05] | darrenp: | Anyone in the uk had trouble with bad recordings from mux2? (itv, e4, channel4, etc.) |
| [05:41:19] | banyan: | heh... just thought somebody in here might have their ear to the lirc grouind. |
| [05:41:23] | darrenp: | Can't watch live tv or recorded stuff from any channels on that mux. |
| [05:43:06] | jams: | Vantage13- the best way to debug that, is to place some debug commands in the changechannel script. I found it easiest to have the debug statements write to a file |
| [05:43:21] | xris: | I think it's #lirc-dev |
| [05:43:28] | Captain_Murdoch: | GreyFoxx: I just looked over the queuing code and can't see anything obvious as to why mythcommflag would get run if you had it turned off for a schedule. |
| [05:43:55] | darrenp: | It does seem to be recording the programs... I can watch a few seconds of it, then it crashes. |
| [05:45:39] | Vantage13: | jams: is there a way to confirm that the command is being called at all? My blaster blinks whenever it sends a signal, but of course it doesn't blink at all when called from mythtv at the moment |
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| [05:47:20] | jams: | Vantage13- have the first step of the script touch /tmp/I_RAN. If that file never shows up then the script is not being called |
| [05:47:50] | mchou: | jams: that dir is about to go nuclear |
| [05:48:06] | Vantage13: | jams: good idea |
| [05:49:01] | jams: | mchou- ? |
| [05:49:11] | mchou: | IRAN |
| [05:49:15] | jams: | ah |
| [05:49:24] | rtyler: | DAMNIT |
| [05:49:25] | hjohnson: | that's really odd.. I have to tune my pvr cards about 6500kHz high |
| [05:49:37] | rtyler: | some myth dev is now on my hitlist :P |
| [05:49:46] | rtyler: | I figured out why myth couldn't connect to the backend |
| [05:50:06] | rtyler: | it seems that all the settings in the db were based on the IP address of the public interface |
| [05:50:20] | rtyler: | so when I took it off my office network, to the home network, everything broke -_- |
| [05:53:48] | rtyler: | anybody know how I can use mysql from the command line to get into the DB and update the ip address the backend expects? :/ |
| [05:53:49] | amessina: | this has probably been an issue all day, but i can't seem to find the solution. datadirect has changed the channel lineup for digital ota broadcasts and now i am unable to tune to any of the multiplexed channels except the first one. anyone come up with a solution? |
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| [06:02:41] | rtyler: | anybody know where that IP address is stored in the DB? |
| [06:02:42] | rtyler: | :/ |
| [06:05:47] | xris: | rtyler: settings table |
| [06:07:05] | Captain_Murdoch: | why can't you just rerun mythtv-setup? |
| [06:07:17] | jams: | rtyler- do a select where hostname is null in the settings table, should be easy to pick out. Or just run mythtv-setup again |
| [06:07:31] | Vantage13: | jams: still around? |
| [06:07:39] | jams: | Vantage13- yeah |
| [06:08:16] | Vantage13: | jams: small problem with commenting out current_video from ui.xml. It's also used by PiP, so when I use that the backend dies :( |
| [06:08:38] | Vantage13: | jams: is their an xml file for just the program guide that could be edited to disable it? |
| [06:10:02] | jams: | That shold have only affect the program guide. If you enable it again PIP works? |
| [06:11:19] | jams: | I would be amazed if it did |
| [06:12:09] | Vantage13: | jams: yeah |
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| [06:13:45] | Vantage13: | jams: weird, if I actually delete the text it works, but if I comment it out it break PiP |
| [06:14:07] | jams: | didn't know the two were connected (pip and the PG) |
| [06:14:32] | Vantage13: | jams: you wouldn't think they were :) |
| [06:15:04] | Captain_Murdoch: | shouldn't be. only place I see current_video is in the programguide-video window definition. only place in the code that "current_video" container is used is in guidegrid.cpp |
| [06:15:37] | jams: | Captain_Murdoch- exactly, thats what I thought |
| [06:16:03] | rtyler: | this ATI TV Wonder's failure to work is as annoying as, say, blink |
| [06:16:11] | ** rtyler giggles ** | |
| [06:16:25] | jams: | Vantage13- if this works for you thats great, but you still might want to send a backtrace to the mailing list |
| [06:16:27] | Captain_Murdoch: | if current_video container isn't defined then the video rect is set to 0,0,0,0 so it is still used, just very small. so just commenting that out might not work as a good test. |
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| [06:23:27] | Vantage13: | Captain_Murdoch: Really? If I delete the container I just get "Loading Video Preview" |
| [06:23:44] | Vantage13: | the rect is the same size as always |
| [06:25:45] | jams: | Vantage13- that loading video preview is part of the background image |
| [06:25:59] | jams: | same with the "box" |
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| [06:31:18] | rtyler: | hrm, well, it connects to the backend now at least, but for some reason some actions are _horribly_ slow :/ |
| [06:31:28] | rtyler: | like when I hit ESC from the main menu |
| [06:32:19] | rtyler: | or after hitting "Finish" in some of the frontend setup bits :/ |
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| [06:34:38] | Captain_Murdoch: | anyone here on OSX? |
| [06:35:22] | rtyler: | yeppers :D |
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| [06:40:04] | Captain_Murdoch: | does OSX have a "man" command? If so, can you try "man statfs" and see if you have a man page for the statfs() call? |
| [06:40:25] | rtyler: | of course |
| [06:40:30] | rtyler: | man 2 statfs |
| [06:41:09] | PaulWay: | It should – it's still got most of NetBSD propping it up. |
| [06:41:18] | rtyler: | FreeBSD userland smart guy ;) |
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| [06:45:16] | PaulWay: | OK, a *BSD then. |
| [06:46:19] | rothgar: | I am sorry, my frontend still is not connecting to the backend, is there anything else I can try or a setting I can change somewhere? |
| [06:47:13] | Ross_C: | did you set your backend box to be configured with a real IP — not 127.0.0.1? *and* update the DB to allow access from other hosts? |
| [06:47:51] | rothgar: | Ross_C: in the mysql.txt file? |
| [06:48:22] | rothgar: | oh, in mythtv-setup it is set to the real ip |
| [06:48:49] | rothgar: | and yes I updated the DB to allow connections (using the steps in the documentation) |
| [06:49:18] | Ross_C: | mythtv has very verbose log files – I' |
| [06:49:29] | Captain_Murdoch: | rtyler: does it list the magic numbers for the filesytem types?j If so, can you tell me the numbers for NFS and SMB? I want to compare it to Linux to make sure my patch will detect local vs remote filesystems on OSX like it currently can on Linux. |
| [06:49:30] | PaulWay: | rothgar: So you can do mysql -umythtv -pmythtv -hbackend mythconverg on the frontend and have it connect? |
| [06:49:32] | Ross_C: | I'm sure the log files on the frontend will tell you what's wrong - |
| [06:50:23] | rothgar: | here is the error when I try to connect http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?show=827877 |
| [06:50:35] | rothgar: | my password is not mythtv according to the backend |
| [06:50:45] | rothgar: | or should I be connecting with that password? |
| [06:51:01] | Ross_C: | so.. change it |
| [06:51:10] | rtyler: | Captain_Murdoch: http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Darw . . . tatfs.2.html |
| [06:51:26] | ** rothgar looks down in shame ** | |
| [06:52:00] | rothgar: | how do I change the password for mythtv? |
| [06:52:17] | rothgar: | or were you saying I should change what pass I am trying to connect with? |
| [06:52:43] | Captain_Murdoch: | rtyler: thanks, so it looks like I'd have to check f_fstypename on OSX instead of the f_type field I can check on Linux. |
| [06:52:55] | Ross_C: | either or – but it won't work until you supply a valid userid/pass from the frontend system |
| [06:53:20] | rothgar: | I am using the same password the backend uses to connect to itself though (that is why I am so confused) |
| [06:53:34] | rothgar: | I got the password from the mysql.txt file on the backend |
| [06:54:07] | PaulWay: | BTW, has anyone considered putting the necessary code in to tell XFS to preallocate space for the recording? |
| [06:54:18] | rtyler: | I doubt it, heh |
| [06:54:39] | rtyler: | ok, seriously, what the hell |
| [06:54:45] | rtyler: | mythbrowser swallows my keyboard |
| [06:54:52] | rtyler: | and mplayer (mythvideo) now does too |
| [06:55:03] | rtyler: | I can't exit out of this video |
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| [06:56:23] | PaulWay: | bobjello: Not _the_ tridgell.net? |
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| [06:57:53] | rothgar: | I don't know why but using pass mythtv worked!!! |
| [06:58:03] | rothgar: | thanks again guys for all your help |
| [06:58:14] | rothgar: | this has been a long time in the making for me :) |
| [06:58:43] | bobjello: | PaulWay: hi paul andrews my uncle |
| [06:58:46] | PaulWay: | Heh – that's why we're here. |
| [06:58:51] | clop: | when i go to "watch videos" in the media library, is there a way to have the .avi files have a preview (or maybe just a screenshot) instead of just being blank squares? |
| [06:59:23] | rtyler: | clop: video manager |
| [06:59:31] | rtyler: | you can search for it in the IMDB |
| [06:59:40] | PaulWay: | bobjello: cool! Tell him to come along to CLUG meetings! |
| [06:59:48] | PaulWay: | :-) |
| [07:00:14] | clop: | aah |
| [07:00:35] | bobjello: | PaulWay: will both be coming on thurs |
| [07:01:01] | clop: | rtyler, thanks, i'll mess with that :) |
| [07:01:05] | monkeypet: | anyone know how I can make the menus faster on the xbox frontend? |
| [07:01:22] | xris: | turn off opengl menus? |
| [07:01:24] | rtyler: | monkeypet: tap your red slippers together a few times :) |
| [07:02:42] | PaulWay: | bobjello: You're setting up a MythTV machine? |
| [07:03:11] | monkeypet: | rtyler, hm, let me try, do the slippers need to be red? |
| [07:03:35] | bobjello: | PaulWay: yes for workexperience |
| [07:03:35] | D-side: | meh. wish i understood this damn firewire problem |
| [07:03:52] | rtyler: | D-side: add more wood |
| [07:03:53] | bobjello: | PaulWay: its good fun |
| [07:03:56] | ** rtyler chuckles ** | |
| [07:04:11] | rtyler: | monkeypet: I've not used the xbox frontend, so I can't really help ;) |
| [07:04:34] | ** xris kind of wishes he could understand dutch. (or french) ** | |
| [07:06:20] | CunningPike: | Is a Pentium II with a Hauppauge card good enough for MythTV? |
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| [07:09:20] | rothgar: | xris: is there a way to turn off opengl menu's without going into the frontend? |
| [07:09:20] | PaulWay: | CunningPike: Not familiar with the Hauppauge card: does it do encoding and decoding? |
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| [07:09:36] | xris: | rothgar: can tweak the setting in the db |
| [07:09:48] | CunningPike: | PaulWay: Yes – it's one of the WinTV-PVR cards |
| [07:10:12] | xris: | I forget what the setting name is, though |
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| [07:10:32] | rothgar: | xris: does the backend keep that info for all frontends? or do the frontends keep their own settings? |
| [07:10:40] | xris: | each machine |
| [07:11:19] | PaulWay: | bobjello: Aaaaah, so _you're_ the work experience person :-) |
| [07:11:32] | Captain_Murdoch: | rothgar: mythfrontend -O ThemePainter=qt |
| [07:11:52] | Captain_Murdoch: | overrides it for that session only. |
| [07:11:57] | PaulWay: | CunningPike: I'd say it'd be up to recording and playback but transcoding and commercial detection might be a bit slow... |
| [07:12:09] | xris: | Captain_Murdoch: thanks.. I always want it to be called "display" or something like that. |
| [07:12:17] | CunningPike: | PaulWay: OK – thanks. Live TV would be a struggle then? |
| [07:12:21] | rothgar: | where is your "donate now" button :) |
| [07:13:02] | PaulWay: | Captain_Murdoch, rothgar: in that case it'd be "update settings set data = 'qt' where value = 'ThemePainter' and hostname = 'yourhostname';" |
| [07:13:31] | PaulWay: | CunningPike: I'm not sure how the Hauppauge card would handle it, but theoretically it should. |
| [07:13:37] | xris: | rothgar: Isaac isn't so keen on the idea of taking money from people |
| [07:13:40] | clop: | rothgar, i created a .png image next to my movie, and it has the same name, but when i click on "cover art", it says no images found... is there somewhere special i need to store the images? |
| [07:13:42] | PaulWay: | It should be able to encode and decode simultaneously. |
| [07:13:53] | CunningPike: | PaulWay: OK – thanks, sounds like it's worth a shot :) |
| [07:13:59] | PaulWay: | xris: I gather that's because he doesn't like the "buy me a feature" concept? |
| [07:14:10] | xris: | yeah |
| [07:14:16] | PaulWay: | CunningPike: Put it this way: a Hauppauge card is a good investment anyway from what I understand of them. |
| [07:14:27] | xris: | or rather, the "I gave you money, why don't you do what I say?" bit. |
| [07:14:43] | CunningPike: | PaulWay: Yes – I have a couple of spare ones hanging around |
| [07:14:48] | PaulWay: | If, later, you want a bit of grunt, get another front end with a different video card. |
| [07:14:52] | PaulWay: | xris: Indeed. |
| [07:15:12] | CunningPike: | PaulWay: And a spare PII PC, so I gots to thinkin'.......... :) |
| [07:15:20] | rothgar: | clop: you are probably asking the wrong person...I am here for help more than I know how to give it |
| [07:15:35] | CunningPike: | PaulWay: OK – thanks – off to bed |
| [07:16:17] | D-side: | i wish i knew wtf "FireChan, Error: Unable to get handle for port: 0" means |
| [07:16:25] | PaulWay: | clop: I think the movie posters directory is a different directory. |
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| [07:16:49] | PaulWay: | D-side: Geez, it means that Firechan was unable to get a handle for port zero, obviously :-) |
| [07:16:58] | PaulWay: | And it's probably causing your recordings to fail. |
| [07:17:19] | clop: | PaulWay, rothgar, ok, thanks, i'll try to find out how to work that |
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| [07:17:27] | D-side: | words alone cannot express my gratitude for that revelation. |
| [07:18:20] | PaulWay: | clop: Check the settings under Setup -> Media Settings -> Videos -> General Settings. |
| [07:18:29] | PaulWay: | D-side: Use gestures then :-) |
| [07:18:31] | rothgar: | HD shouldn't have a problem broadcasting over 100 mbps ethernet to a frontend right? I am trying to figure out if my jittery playback is because of my network or because the computer/video card is to slow |
| [07:18:39] | PaulWay: | Have you tried googling it, D-side? |
| [07:18:54] | D-side: | yeah. zip. |
| [07:18:54] | PaulWay: | rothgar: No problem, AFAIK. |
| [07:19:08] | PaulWay: | D-side: Sounds almost like the LVM problem I was having. |
| [07:19:12] | D-side: | i see it SHOULD respond witth "Allocated raw1394 handle for port 0" |
| [07:19:31] | PaulWay: | Always a good sign when your google search throws up only the source code that generates the message. |
| [07:19:36] | clop: | PaulWay, i see that there is a directory for "movie posters"... i'm not sure what to name my images (i was just going to generate them, since i'm dealing with tv shows instead of imdb movies) |
| [07:19:50] | PaulWay: | rothgar: Try playing the same file in mplayer (e.g.). |
| [07:20:36] | PaulWay: | I've been using /opt/video for the video files and /opt/posters for the posters. |
| [07:28:19] | monkeypet: | why does myth use its own decoders when mplayer exists? |
| [07:28:40] | xris: | monkeypet: mplayer can't play myth's nupplevideo files? |
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| [07:29:35] | rothgar: | I think I figured out my problem weth the choppy playback, xorg.conf wasn't set to use the nvidia driver so I don't think xvmc was working properly |
| [07:30:11] | rothgar: | and with that, I say thank you all one more time and I am off to bed |
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| [07:38:21] | mjelva: | ok nerds. my 12 hours of drinking are sadly over. the question is, should i get started on the liquor cabinette? |
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| [07:40:50] | hjohnson: | haha, this is funny... I need to set my frequency 6660kHz high to tune in a channel |
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| [07:40:55] | rtyler: | mjelva: how is that even a question? :) |
| [07:42:17] | mjelva: | i have no idea |
| [07:42:21] | mjelva: | i'll go get the vodka |
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| [07:48:46] | D-side: | well aint this a son of a bitch. |
| [07:49:01] | D-side: | i can pull directly off of the firewire port but i can't make mythtv work? |
| [07:51:05] | PaulWay: | mjelva: I'd say if you haven't drunk the cabinet dry then you haven't been drinking hard enough. |
| [07:51:30] | PaulWay: | D-side: Is there a possiblity of another program having it open somehow? |
| [07:51:36] | D-side: | not at all. |
| [07:52:55] | PaulWay: | Hmmmm. |
| [07:53:04] | PaulWay: | What other program are you using to open the port? |
| [07:53:19] | PaulWay: | I have no clue what might be going on, I'm just trying to help debug the problem. |
| [07:53:33] | D-side: | test-mpeg2 and plugreport. |
| [07:53:57] | D-side: | the latter essentially does what mythtv should be doing, and the second shouldn't actually open the device. |
| [07:55:26] | PaulWay: | Sorry, gotta make dinner. |
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| [08:10:41] | mjelva: | i've been out, paul |
| [08:10:46] | rtyler: | hrm, for some weird reason when I disconnect the VGA monitor from my Nvidia card, and X.org restarts, the TV output gets wonky |
| [08:10:46] | mjelva: | at the student society |
| [08:10:53] | rtyler: | i.e. the text is all extremely tiny now :/ |
| [08:11:03] | mjelva: | until like half an hour ago. which would be 8:30 in the morning |
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| [08:14:19] | anxt: | hey kids |
| [08:16:05] | anxt: | is nuvexport discussed here at all? |
| [08:16:27] | monkeypet: | we only talk about beer here. |
| [08:18:01] | anxt: | shit i drink vodka |
| [08:18:12] | anxt: | and i got banned from #aa |
| [08:18:39] | anxt: | so tell me about beer |
| [08:18:55] | anxt: | i am going back to africa for 6 months |
| [08:19:11] | anxt: | so i was thinking i would export a heap of tv to divx, and bring an external 300gb drive |
| [08:19:31] | juski: | mornin' |
| [08:19:34] | anxt: | prolly not supposed to pirate dvds since i am a mishunaree lol |
| [08:19:35] | mjelva: | beer is the shit |
| [08:19:36] | juski: | nuvexport is nice |
| [08:19:46] | mjelva: | note that it is the shit. not shit. |
| [08:19:52] | mjelva: | it's a very important distinction. |
| [08:19:56] | anxt: | beer is ok, but impossible to get a nice buzz from (not impossible, but a real challenge) |
| [08:20:04] | mjelva: | shens |
| [08:20:05] | D-side: | meh. this has to be a mythtv issue, and not a firewire or cablebox problem |
| [08:20:08] | anxt: | i prefer vodka |
| [08:20:10] | mjelva: | beer is the liquid of gods |
| [08:20:21] | anxt: | i wonder if i can get hd cap card for canada soon |
| [08:20:33] | anxt: | we only have a digital cable provider in our area |
| [08:20:35] | mjelva: | vodka tastes hardly anything. and the little taste it has is crap |
| [08:20:35] | mjelva: | so you have to mix it with stuff |
| [08:20:46] | anxt: | i mix it with ice and water |
| [08:20:46] | mjelva: | where is that? siberia? |
| [08:20:52] | anxt: | canada |
| [08:20:54] | mjelva: | HUH, HUH? MISTER VODKA MAN? |
| [08:20:58] | anxt: | similar climate |
| [08:21:02] | juski: | anxt: for a while it's been very important to get the right ver. of nuvexport for your particular ver. of mythtv. dunno if that's still the case. oh and having a non-crippled ffmpeg helps too ;) |
| [08:21:20] | anxt: | juski: i just grabbed a "cvs" tarball it now works |
| [08:21:33] | juski: | of ffmpeg? |
| [08:21:34] | anxt: | ffmpeg is a bit fragile for comiles i have noticed |
| [08:21:49] | anxt: | naw ffmpeg move slow as a turtle for releases |
| [08:22:17] | D-side: | screw it. i'm going to bed. later boys. |
| [08:22:22] | anxt: | guess i should figure out how cutlist works and stripp out some commercials |
| [08:22:36] | anxt: | never bothered before i just hit "z" on remote |
| [08:24:21] | juski: | to avoid disappointment, edit your recordings to at least check the commercial cutlist is good before transcoding :) |
| [08:24:46] | mjelva: | what does nuvexport do? |
| [08:25:01] | juski: | nuvexport erm... exports mythtv recordings to various formats |
| [08:25:06] | mjelva: | k |
| [08:25:22] | juski: | it's a big bunch of Perl which does the job really well :) |
| [08:25:50] | anxt: | juski: oh yes, sometimes it misses bad, law and order seems to confuse it a bit |
| [08:26:06] | anxt: | i wonder if there is a 30 second chucnks algorythm |
| [08:26:11] | anxt: | that might help hits |
| [08:26:30] | juski: | in the google SoC someone started making a plugin called mythexport – basically something like nuvexport but with a qt gui |
| [08:26:31] | anxt: | like skip 7:23 bad skip 3:59 good |
| [08:26:53] | anxt: | export from frontend would be cool |
| [08:27:03] | anxt: | frontend is really cool, just weird |
| [08:27:07] | anxt: | too many menus |
| [08:27:17] | anxt: | i wish i could OSD mythweather |
| [08:27:27] | anxt: | or switch to music from tv with one button |
| [08:27:36] | anxt: | was trying to figure out how got nowhere |
| [08:28:09] | juski: | jump points :) |
| [08:28:22] | anxt: | is there a way to send a signal to the frontend? |
| [08:28:40] | juski: | use the mythcontrols plugin to map jump points to keys not already used by mythtv, then map your remote to those keyboard presses ;) |
| [08:28:52] | juski: | anxt: the telnet interface is the spiff |
| [08:28:52] | anxt: | really ... |
| [08:29:08] | anxt: | i could scipt some telnet shit really easy |
| [08:29:09] | juski: | anxt: you can also redefine keys in mythweb |
| [08:29:18] | anxt: | thank you sir. |
| [08:29:29] | anxt: | you may have made my myth experience a lot nicer |
| [08:29:36] | juski: | you don't have to script some telnet shit when there are jump points you can use though ;) |
| [08:29:40] | anxt: | you and a few hours of drinking and swearing |
| [08:29:51] | anxt: | this jump points is new to me |
| [08:29:56] | robbins876: | how do i have my firewall on and still run mythtv? |
| [08:29:58] | anxt: | i will hit the googleZ0r |
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| [08:30:19] | anxt: | robbins876: what does yer network look like? |
| [08:30:24] | juski: | the telnet stuff is gonna be great for making web/pda based remote controls |
| [08:30:33] | robbins876: | uhh... got my computer, roommates and xbox |
| [08:30:40] | anxt: | hmm symbian os remocon |
| [08:30:53] | anxt: | how is firewall a problem? |
| [08:30:57] | juski: | robbins876: just allow stuff on the local subnet through, surely |
| [08:31:01] | anxt: | 3 machines on one net, one is router? |
| [08:31:12] | anxt: | or seperate router? |
| [08:31:16] | robbins876: | no, we are running through a linksys router |
| [08:31:23] | anxt: | easy as pie then |
| [08:31:36] | anxt: | nothing to set up |
| [08:31:44] | anxt: | what is your issue? |
| [08:31:53] | robbins876: | i guess i don't have one |
| [08:32:01] | anxt: | heh |
| [08:32:04] | anxt: | if you do ask me |
| [08:32:08] | anxt: | i am in a good mood ;) |
| [08:32:31] | anxt: | plus i am a "power user" lol wtf |
| [08:32:58] | anxt: | i have had ppls bases belong to me |
| [08:33:07] | robbins876: | not mine |
| [08:33:15] | ** anxt opens another 30c pack of cigarettes ** | |
| [08:33:27] | anxt: | africa smokes lol |
| [08:33:35] | robbins876: | cigarettes are expensive |
| [08:39:27] | anxt: | 30 cents per pack |
| [08:39:31] | anxt: | not so much lol |
| [08:39:38] | anxt: | although they are 10 bux in canada |
| [08:40:05] | anxt: | i got 620 000 GF per 100 USD |
| [08:40:12] | anxt: | and a pack is 2000 GF |
| [08:40:42] | juski: | hrm. how long is it til 9am EST? |
| [08:40:50] | anxt: | a bit |
| [08:40:56] | anxt: | i am 1:41 MST |
| [08:41:00] | anxt: | which is -7 gmt |
| [08:41:09] | anxt: | that is -5 gmt i think |
| [08:41:24] | anxt: | so 5 hours 20 minutes |
| [08:41:26] | anxt: | i think |
| [08:41:28] | juski: | heh |
| [08:41:32] | juski: | cheers |
| [08:42:00] | anxt: | i am pumped i am going back to africa for 6 months |
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| [08:42:15] | anxt: | to teach nationals to run the radio station i helped build them |
| [08:42:34] | juski: | oo fun |
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| [08:43:03] | juski: | bet it sure beats going over there peddling religious dogma ;) |
| [08:43:15] | anxt: | lol |
| [08:43:24] | anxt: | i am also one of those, but that is not my goal |
| [08:44:01] | anxt: | my goal is to aid people ion a developing nation...we don't really preach on the radio station |
| [08:44:41] | anxt: | i gots a mythfrontend for my powerbook |
| [08:44:48] | anxt: | wireless mythtv in the house |
| [08:45:01] | mjelva: | beer roolz, god droolz, amirite?! |
| [08:45:17] | mjelva: | <- rite |
| [08:45:17] | anxt: | i am an amalekite thank you ;) |
| [08:45:31] | anxt: | God made yeast though, and barley too ... |
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| [08:45:36] | anxt: | and hops and h2o |
| [08:45:52] | juski: | yeah so why not imbibe? |
| [08:45:54] | juski: | ;) |
| [08:45:55] | anxt: | i do |
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| [08:46:14] | anxt: | i am not a cookie cutter christian by any stretch |
| [08:46:41] | anxt: | i capture television and watch it timeshifted, and skip commercials which is like stealing TV!! |
| [08:46:49] | mjelva: | charles darwin made those things |
| [08:46:54] | mjelva: | all hail! |
| [08:47:13] | juski: | I don't mind any religion, I just chose not to follow it when I got my fill of hypocrisy at school |
| [08:47:34] | anxt: | we are all free to choose, and i won't ever push |
| [08:48:03] | juski: | yay. there should be more of that in the world :) |
| [08:48:07] | anxt: | you don't hafta look hard to find hypocrisy |
| [08:48:45] | juski: | hell I'm a hypocrite. I love mythtv! I love mythtv! Oh, why's it not worky... damn stupid mythtv... |
| [08:48:52] | anxt: | lol |
| [08:48:55] | mjelva: | i'm extremely sceptical of missionaries going anywhere, especially africa |
| [08:48:57] | juski: | more often than not it's 'damn stupid user' |
| [08:49:10] | mjelva: | even if your goal isn't to convert |
| [08:49:32] | anxt: | why is that mjelva ? |
| [08:49:54] | banyan: | It's true. I got so tired of 'christians' I couldn't relate to or understand, who seemed mainly obsessed with a few things that have nothing to do with Jesus... |
| [08:49:57] | anxt: | (merely curious) |
| [08:50:13] | mjelva: | because as much as they may try to keep their religion to themselves, they never fully succeed |
| [08:50:23] | anxt: | banyan: i hear you i think that is called "religion" |
| [08:50:42] | banyan: | I decided I couldn't be one of those. So I'm a buddhist now. |
| [08:50:57] | anxt: | fair enough |
| [08:51:16] | banyan: | somebody else's political puppet... pthththt. |
| [08:51:34] | anxt: | many christians are way over the top obssessing over gay marriage or harry potter books, and not really showing love. |
| [08:51:58] | juski: | aren't they the ones who put the 'fun' into 'fundamentalism' ? |
| [08:51:59] | juski: | ;) |
| [08:52:21] | anxt: | heh |
| [08:52:44] | banyan: | I am the same way with missionaries... no way I give money to somebody who wants to slip in a little religion with their eye operations, or make homeless people sing a hymn for their supper. |
| [08:52:52] | mjelva: | god damn |
| [08:52:59] | mjelva: | i can't find it |
| [08:53:20] | mjelva: | a pic, that is |
| [08:53:21] | anxt: | banyan: yeah the whole hear a sermon to eat shit is kinda lame |
| [08:53:31] | anxt: | that is not really love the way i see it |
| [08:53:39] | anxt: | i did work in inner city for 23 years |
| [08:53:43] | anxt: | 2 years* |
| [08:53:51] | mjelva: | a friend of mine, a physics geek, has this shirt that says "And god said" followed by Maxwell's equations on electromagnetics, and "and there was light" |
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| [08:53:54] | mjelva: | it's fucking sweet |
| [08:53:55] | mjelva: | i want one |
| [08:54:17] | anxt: | i would like that pic |
| [08:54:21] | anxt: | i would love that shirt |
| [08:54:38] | anxt: | i am a _bit_ of a misfit because i belive in 15 bya universe |
| [08:54:43] | banyan: | If you want to help, help. If you want to give people sermons, do that, but do it on your own nickel. Besides, usually international missionaries are sent up to soften the locals up for working at some transnational organisation. |
| [08:54:49] | mjelva: | a what? |
| [08:54:50] | banyan: | 15 bya? |
| [08:54:52] | anxt: | many of my "brothers and sisters" take exception to that stance |
| [08:55:02] | anxt: | 15 billion years opld |
| [08:55:12] | anxt: | bya is an anthro/paleo shorthand |
| [08:55:15] | mjelva: | only retards believe in that "young earth" crap |
| [08:55:36] | anxt: | mjelva: i wouldn't go as far as to say reteards, but it really doesn't add up for me |
| [08:55:44] | banyan: | That is really silly, and obviously turning their backs on the facts. |
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| [08:55:49] | anxt: | well ok, i sort of think them foolish ... |
| [08:56:01] | mjelva: | fine with me, but i'm quite adamant in calling anyone who completely rejects science so he can belive something some dude wrote in a book a retard. |
| [08:56:19] | anxt: | my stance is "god could done it 4000 years ago, but every indication is against it ..." |
| [08:57:08] | juski: | then again the 'fact' that all this came out of an infinitely tiny singularity ever so long ago is pushing believability a tad |
| [08:57:13] | banyan: | they're not seeing the big picture, they're missing the story for the details. |
| [08:57:16] | anxt: | like how the hell did the light get hear or causality from planetes millions or light years away (s/planets/stars/glaxies/)" |
| [08:57:19] | mjelva: | no one is claiming that, juski |
| [08:57:31] | mjelva: | or are they? <_< |
| [08:57:39] | banyan: | The big bang |
| [08:57:40] | anxt: | juski: the singularity is a problem for me without God |
| [08:57:45] | juski: | the 'big bang', anyone ? |
| [08:57:53] | anxt: | i am sort of believing God caused the singularity atm |
| [08:58:02] | mjelva: | i'm honestly not that informed about the big bang. i'm much more interested in evolution. |
| [08:58:08] | anxt: | because physicval laws break down |
| [08:58:15] | anxt: | at least relativity dfoesn't fit |
| [08:58:25] | anxt: | maybe m-theory helps explain but iu don't understand it |
| [08:59:33] | mjelva: | anxt: intelligent design is the last refuge of someone who fails to fool themselves any longer |
| [08:59:39] | juski: | whichever way I look at it, IMHO there had to be _something_ at the very beginning, so it boggles me to think about whatever the 'it' we all started from came from in the 1st place, and all the 'what-ifs'. So I guess I believe there's _something_ out there, maybe not a single benevolent entity. |
| [08:59:43] | banyan: | However, theis is the conclusion that people came to based on the facts. |
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| [09:00:02] | mjelva: | and frankly, in some ways i consider intelligent design much more dangerous than the traditional biblical explanation. |
| [09:00:15] | mjelva: | intelligent design tries to sell itself as science, and many people believe it is |
| [09:00:43] | banyan: | Because it justifies the current state as some kind of preordained culmination. |
| [09:01:14] | juski: | the whole thing could be preordained for all most of us know |
| [09:01:18] | anxt: | sorry i didn't mean to troll yer channel |
| [09:01:21] | mjelva: | basically intelligent design preys upon the failings of science. |
| [09:01:25] | anxt: | i had an nuvexporrt issue |
| [09:01:30] | juski: | theology, on a Sunday?! never! |
| [09:01:30] | mjelva: | science certainly doesn't have all the answers, yet |
| [09:01:38] | banyan: | Nobody does. |
| [09:01:39] | mjelva: | but turning to the divine to fill the blanks is just obtuse |
| [09:01:39] | anxt: | i don't mind discussing ifd it doesn't offend anyone though |
| [09:02:21] | juski: | anxt: that's just the point. there's too little debate IMHO – too much "_this_ is right, you're wrong!" |
| [09:02:34] | anxt: | i can see an argument against throwin everything unexplainable under a diety as foolish |
| [09:03:14] | anxt: | i rejected the notion of a diety for most of my life, the last few years i have embraced it. |
| [09:03:53] | banyan: | There is a cat in Egypt who wills the world to turn. |
| [09:04:16] | anxt: | then again by definition science cannot adress the supernatural (ooutside of science) and that said science is all based on the assumption we actually exist |
| [09:04:34] | mjelva: | juski: i'm certainly willing to reconsider my stance, if you have some good arguments for intelligent design |
| [09:04:37] | juski: | haha |
| [09:04:42] | banyan: | If we don't exist, no souls, and no problem. |
| [09:04:48] | anxt: | i do assume i exist, because the bills i have seem to say so ... |
| [09:04:59] | mjelva: | anxt: science can never even open for the possibility of something supernatural |
| [09:05:08] | mjelva: | it just goes against everything science is |
| [09:05:18] | anxt: | mjelva: by definition yes |
| [09:05:22] | mjelva: | that isn't to say a divine creature would have to be supernatural, however |
| [09:05:37] | juski: | the problem is really that we're all human beings, and we have egos. The ego closes the mind |
| [09:05:53] | anxt: | mjelva: intereseting ... just would hafta exist outside of our understanding |
| [09:06:02] | mjelva: | no. not even that. |
| [09:06:08] | anxt: | to be "supernatural" |
| [09:06:10] | juski: | a true fool is the person who never even considers they might be wrong |
| [09:06:22] | banyan: | Because science is naturalist. If there is no evidence of it, it's not necessary to posit such a thing. |
| [09:06:38] | mjelva: | absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence, though |
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| [09:06:59] | anxt: | i know one thing ... panties are next to the best thing ever created. |
| [09:07:03] | anxt: | ;) |
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| [09:07:16] | mjelva: | O U R RITE |
| [09:07:44] | juski: | lol. now we degenerate into a myspace homepage |
| [09:07:54] | anxt: | oops my bad |
| [09:07:57] | anxt: | it just came out |
| [09:07:59] | banyan: | I think there is a certain amount of truth to the idea that the concept of the supernatural might be a nasty meme with no basis in fact, forwarded from generation to generation by the virus of language. |
| [09:08:02] | anxt: | i got like irc tourettes |
| [09:08:18] | juski: | I think I need some time off work: 198 programs, using 319 GB (8 days 14 hrs 9 mins) out of 458 GB (103 GB free) |
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| [09:08:35] | juski: | hey cesman :) |
| [09:08:46] | mjelva: | i don't get it, juski |
| [09:08:48] | mjelva: | but that's okay |
| [09:09:45] | banyan: | bah, it's all such heavily trodden territory, I just lose all desire to go down the road. |
| [09:10:38] | banyan: | The bad example would be the snuffalufugus. |
| [09:11:06] | banyan: | If he has a name, he has to exist, right? Otherwise, he's just a mental furball we can't cough up. |
| [09:11:22] | mjelva: | the coral is pretty sweet |
| [09:11:29] | mjelva: | everyone download 'dreaming of you' |
| [09:11:30] | banyan: | coral? |
| [09:11:33] | mjelva: | gogo |
| [09:11:45] | mjelva: | the coral |
| [09:11:55] | banyan: | It's a band I take it? |
| [09:11:59] | mjelva: | yes |
| [09:12:12] | banyan: | It sounds very "vag-rock..." |
| [09:12:28] | banyan: | sarah maclaughlan esque |
| [09:13:39] | mjelva: | you downloaded? |
| [09:14:36] | anxt: | sarah rocks |
| [09:15:00] | mjelva: | what's vag-rock, tho? |
| [09:15:03] | mjelva: | vagina rock? |
| [09:15:06] | banyan: | oui. |
| [09:15:07] | mjelva: | chick bands? |
| [09:15:30] | banyan: | I wouldn't say that elastica is vag rock , or the yeah yeah yeahs... |
| [09:15:55] | banyan: | More the "I am a delicate flower, part my folds in the mist of the morning, wet with my sensitive little tears." |
| [09:15:58] | banyan: | kind of thing. |
| [09:16:39] | banyan: | or, ugh, that Jewel thing. |
| [09:16:59] | mjelva: | i think it's pretty cake-esque |
| [09:17:05] | mjelva: | cake is fucking awesome |
| [09:17:06] | banyan: | I am *not* a fan of her. The singer-songwriter who's got nothing to say. |
| [09:17:21] | mjelva: | jewel can suck my rod |
| [09:17:32] | banyan: | I don't know about cake — I'll have to gnutella her. |
| [09:17:32] | mjelva: | maybe |
| [09:17:38] | mjelva: | cake isn't a chick |
| [09:17:40] | mjelva: | it's a band |
| [09:17:46] | banyan: | otay. |
| [09:18:18] | banyan: | You know, it kinda did my head in when I found out that the person singing in chet baker songs was a man. |
| [09:18:37] | mjelva: | let's see, some recommendations... |
| [09:18:42] | mjelva: | short skirt/long jacket |
| [09:18:53] | banyan: | oh, them! yeah, that's a fun song. |
| [09:19:10] | mjelva: | their 'i will survive' cover |
| [09:19:24] | mjelva: | it's so much better than the original |
| [09:19:25] | mjelva: | obviously |
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| [09:19:39] | banyan: | that's gotta be fun. I heard it in spanish tonight. |
| [09:20:00] | banyan: | or a song in spanish with the same tune. |
| [09:20:03] | mjelva: | i'd just download some albums if i were you. it's all pretty good. |
| [09:20:09] | mjelva: | haha. translated songs are always fun |
| [09:20:39] | juski: | wtf? a livetv recording I made last night has ended up having a user job run on it when I didn't tell mythtv to do that |
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| [09:22:59] | banyan: | And now let us pause to sing the Vaginal Anthem. |
| [09:23:06] | banyan: | As soon as we decide what it is. |
| [09:23:38] | mjelva: | the ultimate vag song? |
| [09:23:41] | banyan: | I am woman? |
| [09:23:54] | mjelva: | i will survive is high up there. which is why the cake cover is so awesome. |
| [09:24:33] | banyan: | insensitive by what's her name...? |
| [09:30:25] | mjelva: | google says jann arden |
| [09:32:23] | banyan: | that is she. |
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| [10:01:36] | ** rtyler grumbles ** | |
| [10:01:55] | rtyler: | its really starting to get on my nerves how mythtv just _stops_ some times |
| [10:02:40] | rtyler: | it just _stops_ accepting keyboard input |
| [10:03:07] | rtyler: | this may be a bug |
| [10:03:20] | rtyler: | I moved more music data into the music folder, while mythmusic was paused |
| [10:04:02] | rtyler: | yeah, mythfrontend locked up |
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| [10:26:44] | Dagmar: | Heh. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130062 7600GT with a combo deal that basically amounts to a free TV tuner card thrown in. Heh |
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| [10:29:49] | mchou: | Dagmar: evga cards are lousy. shoddy components |
| [10:30:07] | Dagmar: | For $109 it can be lousy |
| [10:30:19] | Dagmar: | Video cards I actually replace pretty much every year anyway |
| [10:30:26] | Dagmar: | They don't gotta survive long. :) |
| [10:30:41] | Dagmar: | It's an 878a tuner card, btw |
| [10:31:46] | mchou: | which is also shit |
| [10:32:19] | Dagmar: | For MythTV maybe, but I could stick that in my desktop |
| [10:32:32] | Dagmar: | Ah the mail-in just got bigger on the BFG Tech BFGR76256GTOCE |
| [10:33:01] | Dagmar: | Heh. Same combo deal there, too. Looks like they're trying very hard to just get them out of the warehouse |
| [10:33:12] | mchou: | well, at least bfg has a lifetime warranty |
| [10:33:54] | Dagmar: | I guess I can deal with having a card for two years, and I'll probably be able to get a mate for it at the end of the first one |
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| [10:35:06] | mchou: | whoa |
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| [10:39:18] | mchou: | nuon must be taking a break from bf2142 |
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| [11:20:01] | podzap: | hi, does anybody know what causes choppy sound in some live-tv channels, but not others? |
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| [11:31:28] | podzap: | never mind, i seem to have fixed it by enabling realtime priority threads and extra audio buffering... |
| [11:32:09] | podzap: | thanks for all the help, though :-) |
| [11:32:50] | kraut: | moin |
| [11:33:17] | podzap: | moin kraut |
| [11:33:25] | kraut: | ahoi podzap |
| [11:34:36] | podzap: | i guess this is slightly off-topic, but anybody had problems with their remote control always moving the position twice? |
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| [11:53:52] | juski: | podzap: change the 'repeat' value in your lircrc file |
| [11:55:17] | podzap: | juski: thanks, i've been experimenting with it. now, it's repeat = 0, delay = 1 |
| [11:55:21] | podzap: | but that didn't seem to help |
| [11:56:14] | juski: | podzap: increase the delay value then |
| [11:56:23] | juski: | and read the lirc docs :) |
| [11:56:32] | podzap: | i did read them, but they are not that clear |
| [11:56:45] | podzap: | i'll try a higher delay now |
| [11:57:53] | podzap: | i already tried 2, and it didn't help |
| [11:58:00] | podzap: | i'll just set it to 4 now |
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| [12:01:13] | podzap: | 4 also has no effect |
| [12:02:01] | podzap: | every time i press the up or down arrow, it moves twice... really fsking annoying. |
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| [12:26:49] | Saviq: | podzap: maybe some doubled commands in lircrc file? |
| [12:27:26] | Saviq: | 'repeat' sets how often lirc would send the command... every 1, every 2, and so on, signals from the remote |
| [12:27:55] | Saviq: | 'delay' sets how many signals will be ignored before sending the command repeatedly |
| [12:28:42] | Saviq: | type 'irw' in a terminal and see what's going on with remote's signals |
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| [12:29:16] | podzap: | i push the down arrow, and it irw reports it 3 times |
| [12:29:22] | Saviq: | if there'd be two – it means that you have something wrong with the conf file |
| [12:29:50] | Saviq: | then delay = 3 should do the trick |
| [12:29:52] | podzap: | every button i push, irw shows it 3 times |
| [12:30:04] | podzap: | strangely, that was the only one i didn't try yet :-) |
| [12:30:07] | podzap: | figures... |
| [12:30:20] | Saviq: | actually delay >= 3 should do... |
| [12:30:31] | Saviq: | so 4 should also be right |
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| [12:30:48] | podzap: | 4 doesn't help |
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| [12:31:59] | Saviq: | does irw show 'somehexnumbers 00 button'? |
| [12:32:11] | Saviq: | always? |
| [12:32:15] | Saviq: | or does the 00 increase? |
| [12:32:19] | podzap: | always like this: |
| [12:32:20] | podzap: | 0000000000001007 00 down "Logitech |
| [12:32:25] | podzap: | 0000000000001007 01 down "Logitech |
| [12:32:28] | podzap: | 0000000000001007 02 down "Logitech |
| [12:32:32] | Saviq: | that's ok |
| [12:32:38] | podzap: | 3 times per press |
| [12:32:52] | Saviq: | that's normal |
| [12:33:08] | Saviq: | it seems that there's something wrong with the lircrc file |
| [12:33:32] | podzap: | hmm, now the backend machine seems to have frozen up again |
| [12:33:33] | Saviq: | tried with only one command? |
| [12:33:54] | Saviq: | if You don't want the button to repeat, don't put the repeat nor delay in the lircrc command definition |
| [12:34:35] | podzap: | i will try that when i get my backend up again |
| [12:34:49] | podzap: | since i upgraded to 0.20, the backend locks up to hardware reset frequently |
| [12:34:57] | podzap: | never did it with 0.19 |
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| [12:35:51] | podzap: | my wife is really happy with my 1000 dollar hobby :-) |
| [12:37:42] | Saviq: | yeah I presume she is ;] |
| [12:38:33] | podzap: | scheduled recordings don't come because the backend freezes, can't get the picture to fit on the screen properly, remote control is uncontrollable, etc :-) |
| [12:40:39] | podzap: | backend freezes and when i reset it, the software raid goes into rebuilding for 4–5 hours |
| [12:40:59] | podzap: | there is zero trace on the machine why it froze up |
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| [14:04:16] | podzap: | could be that the eit code in 0.20 is buggy as all hell |
| [14:10:53] | juski: | eit works fine here |
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| [14:15:51] | speef: | if using the pvr-350 which has built in decoding, would a nice video card provide any benefit? |
| [14:16:59] | jduggan: | some might say yes, but i'd so no |
| [14:17:09] | jduggan: | not unless you're using the TV out |
| [14:17:19] | jduggan: | s/so/say/ |
| [14:17:43] | speef: | or wanted to play games as well I guess... trying to figure out how much I want to spend |
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| [15:28:53] | dogie: | will the mediamvp work as a frontend in myth to change channels in real time? |
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| [15:30:19] | clop: | hey, if i have a regular 20" tv (not a widescreen) in the US, what's the right resolution to run it at? |
| [15:30:34] | clop: | (it's not an HDTV or anything fancy) |
| [15:30:42] | fryfrog_: | something 4:3 I'd say, prolly 1024x768 if you have svideo |
| [15:30:46] | fryfrog_: | or 800x600 |
| [15:30:55] | clop: | fryfrog_, ok, thanks! |
| [15:30:56] | fryfrog_: | or if that doesn't work, 640x480 |
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| [15:40:50] | jduggan: | hmm so guys, anyone know how i can take screenshots that will capture video feed from /dev/video0 also? |
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| [15:49:08] | clop: | hrmn, it didn't record some shows, and the log says: |
| [15:49:09] | clop: | 2006-11–19 08:57:01.220 TVRec(1) Error: Failed to set channel to 24. Reverting to kState_None |
| [15:49:10] | clop: | 2006-11–19 08:57:01.221 TVRec(1): Changing from RecordingOnly to None |
| [15:49:10] | clop: | 2006-11–19 08:57:01.254 Canceled recording (Recorder Failed) |
| [15:49:15] | r3m0t: | (NTL users) can you control your STB channel using a serial connection between STB and a mythtv box? |
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| [15:51:09] | r3m0t: | (ThermalTake users) do your case buttons, remote and LCD display work in mythtv? we have the LC16-M case ready to set up |
| [15:52:40] | r3m0t: | actually it appears to be a near-standard MCE remote |
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| [16:07:54] | Dagmar: | jduggan: It's *easy* if you have two tuners |
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| [16:18:37] | bigli: | need help with mythlcdserver if anyone knows much about it |
| [16:21:03] | bigli: | or more precisely, why it wants to hog my LCD display |
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| [16:25:18] | fryfrog: | 2006-11–19 11:24:31.085 NVP: Waiting for prebuffer.. 1 AUAALAAAAAAAAAuUALUAAAAAAAAAAAA |
| [16:25:26] | fryfrog: | does anyone know how to interpret the values in that? |
| [16:35:35] | savageone: | hey guys |
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| [16:35:57] | savageone: | I'm trying to use the internet stream section under mythtv |
| [16:36:14] | savageone: | I don't understand the interface it just goes from buffer to not doing anything hehe |
| [16:36:25] | savageone: | is this where I would go to do like you tube or something along those lines |
| [16:37:36] | D-side: | fryfrog: i'm mad at my firewire. |
| [16:37:44] | D-side: | i blame this channel for making me get a firewire box. |
| [16:39:13] | savageone: | d-side hehe |
| [16:39:35] | savageone: | anyone doing the lirccmd thing to use the remote as a mouse |
| [16:39:41] | savageone: | I wonder if that'll fuck w/ my regular remote action |
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| [16:41:33] | fryfrog: | D-side: what is wrong with it? |
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| [16:53:35] | D-side: | fryfrog: it won't work with mythtv. period. |
| [16:53:43] | D-side: | i can use test-mpeg2 to capture video just fine, no problems |
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| [17:00:06] | fryfrog: | D-side: p2p or broadcast? what does the "test_firewire" program do? |
| [17:00:09] | fryfrog: | is it a "DCT" type box? |
| [17:00:41] | fryfrog: | what is the error output? |
| [17:00:58] | D-side: | no, its a SA4200HD |
| [17:01:06] | D-side: | which specifically has support. |
| [17:01:07] | fryfrog: | does that have a channel chaning script? |
| [17:01:14] | D-side: | doesnt need one |
| [17:01:23] | fryfrog: | well, how does it fail ? |
| [17:01:31] | fryfrog: | and you didn't answer any of the other questions :) |
| [17:01:32] | D-side: | the stupid test-mpeg2 pulls in video just fine. mythbackend starting does this though: |
| [17:01:35] | D-side: | i know i've been afk. :) |
| [17:01:58] | fryfrog: | :) |
| [17:02:57] | D-side: | FireChan, Error: Unable to get handle for port: 0 |
| [17:03:09] | D-side: | the box is on node 0, port 0. |
| [17:03:20] | D-side: | i don't understand what "unable to get handle" means. |
| [17:03:55] | fryfrog: | i'd play around with the "firewire_tester" program that is in contrib, do a few tests with p2p mode and broadcast mode |
| [17:04:02] | fryfrog: | see which one works better |
| [17:04:09] | fryfrog: | you might need to change the channel between tests |
| [17:04:13] | D-side: | i can't get broadcast to work at all. |
| [17:04:16] | fryfrog: | oh |
| [17:04:36] | D-side: | but, i hven't tried "firewire_tester" |
| [17:04:36] | fryfrog: | weird :? |
| [17:04:52] | D-side: | wait no. i have that. |
| [17:06:20] | D-side: | trying to use the -B flag with firewire_tester, to force broadcast if possible. |
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| [17:08:50] | D-side: | and... nothing. |
| [17:09:22] | D-side: | iwonder if its somehow checking for a device id and not getting what it wants |
| [17:10:20] | savageone: | getting wmvs to play? |
| [17:10:23] | savageone: | any trick? |
| [17:10:36] | savageone: | or is there a super apt-get install for like every codec, I'm sort of a tv show collector |
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| [17:12:19] | Saviq: | w32codecs |
| [17:13:19] | savageone: | thanks man |
| [17:15:37] | savageone: | what's the motion folder under video for? |
| [17:15:48] | savageone: | I pretty much just go to \myth and pop my vids under video |
| [17:16:05] | savageone: | and I switched my view in the media gallery here to jut show what's in the directory |
| [17:16:20] | savageone: | why would you want a database to have to be updated w/ the video names, especially since you need to go run it manually hehe |
| [17:16:59] | Saviq: | 'cause it can hold a lot of data |
| [17:17:10] | Saviq: | and show it to someone that doesn't know the movie |
| [17:18:46] | savageone: | hey |
| [17:18:51] | savageone: | while I got you here he's a question |
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| [17:21:10] | savageone: | how do you play a whole directory |
| [17:21:18] | savageone: | like say I have a directory of shos and I want it to just play |
| [17:21:26] | savageone: | or is there a random/shuffle type deal |
| [17:24:12] | D-side: | holy shit |
| [17:24:17] | D-side: | i think i just pulled my head out of my ass. afk |
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| [17:24:56] | D-side: | I AM AN ANUS |
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| [17:25:41] | Saviq: | that must've been quite an experience |
| [17:27:23] | GreyFoxx: | savageone: I don't believe mythvideo can do that |
| [17:27:33] | GreyFoxx: | though it's been talked about so it might make it in after 0.21 |
| [17:27:36] | savageone: | yeah |
| [17:27:41] | savageone: | problem is I'm using knoppmyth |
| [17:27:56] | savageone: | which sort of makes u stick w;/ one version |
| [17:28:12] | savageone: | make no sense to me why there wouldn't at least be a way to play a whole directory |
| [17:28:19] | juski: | ah yes the version before last :-P |
| [17:28:28] | savageone: | juski: yeah |
| [17:28:28] | savageone: | hehe |
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| [17:28:32] | juski: | playlists! |
| [17:28:33] | juski: | ;) |
| [17:28:36] | savageone: | I fucked myself by doing an update |
| [17:28:41] | savageone: | where do I make playlists tho |
| [17:28:50] | savageone: | shit even if i could run an autoplaylist makerizer |
| [17:28:51] | GreyFoxx: | savageone: You can't in mythvideo |
| [17:28:54] | juski: | you don't.. not yet at least |
| [17:29:03] | savageone: | cool |
| [17:29:08] | savageone: | I hope mythtv matures |
| [17:29:15] | savageone: | there's a lot of press and a writing on the wall |
| [17:29:20] | juski: | but playlists for xine & mplayer are just text files with lists of files |
| [17:29:34] | juski: | and you can associate different file types to different players |
| [17:29:40] | juski: | see where I'm going with this? |
| [17:30:09] | D-side: | fryfrog: f'ing device perms. |
| [17:30:12] | D-side: | like a god damn newbie |
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| [17:30:42] | juski: | I just noticed some of my pvr150 recordings have stupid fuzzy audio |
| [17:30:50] | savageone: | juski: sure do |
| [17:30:58] | savageone: | what's the default video player knoppmyth is using |
| [17:31:01] | savageone: | and what about vlc? |
| [17:31:02] | juski: | recordings I made since I changed distro |
| [17:31:23] | juski: | savageone: check yourself by looking in the video player setup in mythfrontend |
| [17:31:32] | savageone: | k |
| [17:31:43] | GreyFoxx: | juski: Did you preserve the database and recording profiles or did you resetup those ? |
| [17:31:50] | juski: | GreyFoxx: kept them |
| [17:32:03] | GreyFoxx: | hmmm wonder if it's a different ivtv driver version then |
| [17:32:14] | juski: | set to record at 48khz, which was what'd fixed the problem I first had oh so long ago |
| [17:32:24] | juski: | so it must be either firmware or ivtv itself |
| [17:32:51] | savageone: | it's set for mplayer |
| [17:33:08] | juski: | I was trying out livetv earlier & that seemed totally fine. thats annoying |
| [17:33:13] | savageone: | mplayer -fs -zoom -quiet -vo xv %s |
| [17:33:19] | savageone: | as far as I can read on the screen |
| [17:33:23] | savageone: | you guys recommend mplayer? |
| [17:33:40] | GreyFoxx: | I use the myth Internal player myself for everything |
| [17:33:53] | Zider: | I use xine for dvds and mplayer for other |
| [17:33:57] | Zider: | no wait |
| [17:34:00] | Zider: | I used to :P |
| [17:34:03] | juski: | I'd be recommending 'Internal' if I could get digital audio to work properly, but I'm tired & can't be bothered to investigate it |
| [17:34:08] | Zider: | internal for dvd and mplayer for other now |
| [17:34:48] | savageone: | oh |
| [17:34:53] | savageone: | I didn't check dvds just videos |
| [17:34:57] | savageone: | I think it uses xine tho |
| [17:35:38] | juski: | savageone: dvd playback in the Internal player with 0.19 isn't quite 'there' yet |
| [17:35:45] | Zider: | I used to like xine because of menu support, but now the internal player is preferred because it can be controlled with kbd |
| [17:35:47] | savageone: | i wish I could rip dvds from mythweb |
| [17:35:52] | savageone: | i can burn em but not ripem |
| [17:35:58] | savageone: | you know hat sucks too |
| [17:36:06] | savageone: | is say ti's a dvd w/ episodes, like the southpark dvd |
| [17:36:09] | savageone: | and you don't rip it as iso |
| [17:36:12] | savageone: | it only grabs one episode |
| [17:36:30] | savageone: | and I'd rather have it rip to good for cartoons because why waste the space on high res if it's a cartoon |
| [17:36:41] | savageone: | I only do iso's for like action movies and things I would give a shit about quality for |
| [17:36:53] | savageone: | the music player is kind of strange too |
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| [17:37:33] | juski: | yeah well I've sort of been brainstorming about that & making some mockups of improvements to it when I get around to it |
| [17:37:42] | savageone: | i hear you |
| [17:37:47] | savageone: | I was thinking like a jukebox makeup |
| [17:38:09] | savageone: | there was a project on spourceforge, I forget the name, but it had like a web jukebox deal going where people could choose songs and then they would play based on votes etc |
| [17:38:16] | savageone: | or just play random if there were no votes |
| [17:38:21] | juski: | I watched the BBC's 'click' earlier & I saw the PS3 interface. man that it slick! |
| [17:38:23] | savageone: | that'd be a great addition to mythtv imo |
| [17:38:24] | juski: | s/it/is |
| [17:38:47] | savageone: | I think the interface is fine until you get into certain parts |
| [17:38:52] | D-side: | haha i cant catch a break. |
| [17:38:53] | savageone: | know what I mean? |
| [17:39:01] | savageone: | d-side? |
| [17:39:06] | D-side: | now myth sees the firewire tuner but gives me zero-byte recordings |
| [17:39:13] | savageone: | haha |
| [17:39:15] | juski: | doesn't mean that ideas can't be pinched from it, savageone ;) |
| [17:39:25] | savageone: | oh of course |
| [17:39:30] | savageone: | is there a project manager for mythtv |
| [17:39:33] | savageone: | or any financial backing? |
| [17:40:04] | GreyFoxx: | financial? No |
| [17:40:16] | savageone: | that bites |
| [17:40:16] | GreyFoxx: | closest thing to a PM would be Isaac |
| [17:40:27] | savageone: | you guys familiar w/ asterisk and/or trixbox? |
| [17:40:31] | savageone: | what used to be asterisk@home? |
| [17:40:32] | GreyFoxx: | and for the most part devs just work on what they want |
| [17:40:41] | GreyFoxx: | yup |
| [17:40:56] | savageone: | well trixbox got big, like 10 thousand downloads a day |
| [17:41:13] | savageone: | and fonality, a HUGE provider of voip boxes not based on trixbox but based on asterisk w/ their own gui |
| [17:41:15] | savageone: | they bought them |
| [17:41:27] | savageone: | because, the writing on the wall was in a big font know what I mean? |
| [17:41:28] | GreyFoxx: | I'm aware of that too:) |
| [17:41:33] | savageone: | so now they have a project manager |
| [17:41:37] | savageone: | my bud Kerry Garrison |
| [17:41:48] | savageone: | and the original guy from trixbox, andrew, he's on payroll etc |
| [17:41:49] | savageone: | my thing is |
| [17:42:01] | savageone: | mythtv is in ALL sorts of magazines, tv shows, periodicals etc |
| [17:42:05] | juski: | you can't manage a project that doesn't want to be managed |
| [17:42:12] | savageone: | but no one has gone "wow, if I invest in this I'd make a good return" |
| [17:42:29] | savageone: | juski: you can't manager a project for 30 hours a week w/o getting compensated hehe |
| [17:42:32] | juski: | what tv shows is mythtv in other than 'systm' ? |
| [17:42:40] | savageone: | I would assume all the devs are highly capable, but have mouths to feed correct? |
| [17:42:53] | GreyFoxx: | certainly |
| [17:42:53] | juski: | nobody works on myth full time |
| [17:42:56] | savageone: | I've seen it mentioned on tech tv or whatever |
| [17:43:10] | GreyFoxx: | noone pays mymortgage but me :) |
| [17:43:15] | savageone: | i think game informer |
| [17:43:17] | savageone: | definitely wired |
| [17:43:24] | juski: | I think the fact it has so many loyal followers & users is somewhat of an accidental thing |
| [17:43:26] | savageone: | that's what I'm saying |
| [17:43:35] | savageone: | if someone could pay the developers, think how big mythtv would get? |
| [17:43:43] | savageone: | first off, anyone here ever play w/ windows mce? |
| [17:43:45] | juski: | like nobody set out to be a 'PVR app' star;) |
| [17:43:46] | savageone: | it fucking bites |
| [17:43:59] | savageone: | juski: loyal followers, due to cult worship ;) |
| [17:44:05] | juski: | yeah but it has a sweet setup routine |
| [17:44:10] | juski: | wizard-driven |
| [17:44:15] | savageone: | yeah |
| [17:44:18] | savageone: | but it doesn't do much |
| [17:44:20] | savageone: | after the fact |
| [17:44:26] | savageone: | mythtv is more driven by subversive peoples |
| [17:44:32] | savageone: | who think it's okay to "backup" dvds |
| [17:44:33] | savageone: | hehe |
| [17:44:38] | savageone: | and keep a "collection of mp3s" |
| [17:44:38] | savageone: | ;) |
| [17:44:40] | juski: | myth is configurable to the point of insanity, almost |
| [17:44:44] | savageone: | microsoft doesn't want that |
| [17:44:48] | savageone: | juski: exactly |
| [17:44:55] | savageone: | but if there were an official distro |
| [17:44:58] | GreyFoxx: | juski: Yeah, if it was up to me a lot of the optioons would disappear :) |
| [17:45:03] | savageone: | and someone prioritizing it's development |
| [17:45:15] | GreyFoxx: | There will never be an official distro |
| [17:45:20] | juski: | savageone: anyone could take the source & do their own thing with it, commercial or not |
| [17:45:22] | kormoc: | savageone, people have paid myth to add features before |
| [17:45:40] | savageone: | kormoc: yeah, sort of like a bounty setup like asterisk does? |
| [17:45:49] | juski: | god not bounties again |
| [17:45:56] | kormoc: | savageone, http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/166419 |
| [17:46:03] | GreyFoxx: | a company paid one of the devs to add the telnet interface |
| [17:46:09] | juski: | rich people don't necessarily have the best ideas |
| [17:46:44] | savageone: | hehe telnet? |
| [17:46:46] | savageone: | why not ssh |
| [17:46:48] | savageone: | fuck a telnet |
| [17:46:52] | juski: | savageone: you should read the 'post mortem' of our booth at the linuxworld expo man |
| [17:47:10] | savageone: | I'd like to get involved |
| [17:47:15] | savageone: | but I'm not a developer |
| [17:47:31] | juski: | I'm involved. I don't code |
| [17:47:36] | savageone: | werd |
| [17:47:41] | savageone: | I mean, I'm skilled in design |
| [17:47:44] | kormoc: | you can be involved in here, helping people get it setup and all that, make themes, stuff like that |
| [17:47:51] | savageone: | and I consider my ideas good in terms of interface setup etc |
| [17:47:59] | savageone: | kormoc: trying ;) |
| [17:48:04] | savageone: | I've got about 1 month into myth |
| [17:48:05] | kormoc: | write documentation in the wiki |
| [17:48:12] | savageone: | I'll be around and I'll do everything I can |
| [17:48:13] | juski: | mythtv needs more helpful friends ;) |
| [17:48:15] | savageone: | man, wikis rock |
| [17:48:26] | savageone: | I'm telling you, it's about the biggest innovation of the last few years |
| [17:48:28] | kormoc: | I need to finish my mythweb stats patches |
| [17:48:40] | savageone: | well, you guys all in this convo here have helped me at various times |
| [17:48:40] | juski: | don't just be a person who adds feature requests to the wiki pages |
| [17:48:58] | savageone: | I don't think we need more features |
| [17:49:02] | juski: | mythtv needs more people testing it above all I think |
| [17:49:15] | kormoc: | good testers that know how to write good reports, aye |
| [17:49:16] | savageone: | I think the main mistake a lot of these projects make is they add more and more features before the core features they have are perfected |
| [17:49:38] | kormoc: | meh, adding new 'features' is fine, as the plug-in style works out well |
| [17:49:38] | savageone: | I like the knoppmyth idea |
| [17:49:41] | savageone: | a lot of people use it |
| [17:49:43] | savageone: | it's easy |
| [17:49:50] | savageone: | let me ask you this |
| [17:50:01] | juski: | it's easy but it takes too long to boot for a usable frontend (in my case) |
| [17:50:03] | savageone: | where can I read about adding menu items so that I cna run more apps, like kde apps etc |
| [17:50:09] | juski: | in the wiki! |
| [17:50:15] | kormoc: | imagine that :P |
| [17:50:35] | savageone: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page |
| [17:50:40] | savageone: | this is the official wiki? |
| [17:50:43] | kormoc: | aye |
| [17:50:44] | juski: | yup |
| [17:52:02] | juski: | there's always a good debate to be had about how a project should attract developer talent & use user input – encouraging development is kind of a vicious circle |
| [17:52:49] | savageone: | oh of course |
| [17:52:58] | savageone: | I'm of the mind that you try to mimic other successful projects |
| [17:53:05] | savageone: | I mean, in the open source world of dvr, myth is king |
| [17:53:06] | savageone: | period |
| [17:53:08] | savageone: | feevo is lame |
| [17:53:13] | savageone: | what else is there? know what Imean |
| [17:53:24] | juski: | a team has been assembled to 'make mythtv rock in ubuntu' & some great things are gonna happen there, primarily through documentation & debconf configuration |
| [17:53:40] | savageone: | I'll keep my eye out for that |
| [17:53:44] | savageone: | I think ubuntu is awesome |
| [17:53:52] | savageone: | the add/remove programs interface is key |
| [17:53:58] | savageone: | good emphasis on media |
| [17:54:00] | savageone: | content is king |
| [17:54:03] | juski: | getting hardware working properly in ubuntu is still a major hurdle though |
| [17:54:09] | juski: | despite its ease of use |
| [17:54:30] | savageone: | yeah |
| [17:54:31] | savageone: | some stuff |
| [17:54:32] | juski: | but that too can be addressed |
| [17:54:36] | savageone: | it's good on most laptops |
| [17:54:47] | savageone: | yeah, they got their african billionaire on the case rfoflmao |
| [17:54:58] | savageone: | man how the hell do I get youtube on here |
| [17:55:04] | savageone: | this streaming thing makes no sense to me |
| [17:55:24] | savageone: | I choose something, like nasa tv, it says it's buffering then gives me a list of urls, and then I choose one and it just sits there |
| [17:55:29] | juski: | one big one is udev & being able to guarantee your DVB tuner appears on a certain device node where your pvr card appears on a different one – and every time they come up at tha same place. maybe not for multiple cards of the same time, but certainly for different ones |
| [17:56:05] | juski: | jees I'm not taking any more sunday afternoon naps. I'm half asleep here |
| [17:56:18] | savageone: | haha |
| [17:56:20] | savageone: | it's 1 here |
| [17:56:26] | savageone: | i'm east coast |
| [17:56:30] | savageone: | EAST SYIIIIIIIIIDE hehe |
| [17:56:57] | juski: | by about half way through the week I'll be about ready to release a beta of this: www.juski.co.uk/pg/comingsoon.htm |
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| [17:57:47] | juski: | I'll need testers to help me make sure it works better than any theme I've ever done before |
| [17:58:05] | juski: | actually I wouldn't mind an explanation of wth base.xml does |
| [17:58:10] | savageone: | I'll be here for you |
| [17:58:16] | savageone: | if you've got an e-mail list, I'm goulde@savageweb.net |
| [17:58:56] | savageone: | hey |
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| [17:59:02] | savageone: | if you make it easier to delete a lot of recordings at once |
| [17:59:05] | savageone: | I'll be your best friend |
| [17:59:21] | savageone: | I'll tell you that's a fabulous looking theme |
| [18:00:21] | juski: | savageone: you make a playlist... then delete the playlist items in one go |
| [18:00:21] | savageone: | what's the extension for mplayer playlists? |
| [18:00:30] | savageone: | in the interface |
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| [18:00:50] | savageone: | I can't explore right now my roomate is watching family guy, they get pissed when I exit shows to go "oooh cool look what I cna do" roflmao |
| [18:00:52] | juski: | savageone: it's not set up by default |
| [18:00:56] | savageone: | geek complex |
| [18:01:10] | juski: | you can add a new type though |
| [18:01:25] | juski: | call it anything you want & just tell mplayer the file is a playlist with the right option |
| [18:01:46] | savageone: | I was thinking if I make it the right extension my video browser might just see it and play it |
| [18:01:47] | savageone: | rofl |
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| [18:02:13] | juski: | savageone: say you want to delete all the BSG episodes you have. just select the group, add it to a playlist, then press M again go to playlist options & delete it |
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| [18:02:25] | savageone: | ahhhh |
| [18:02:27] | savageone: | good point |
| [18:02:28] | savageone: | thanks |
| [18:02:46] | juski: | I dunno if you can add more than one group at a time though. never tried that |
| [18:03:03] | savageone: | my thing was when I was messing w/ mythtv i had chose a bunch of random shows to record |
| [18:03:05] | savageone: | just to test it |
| [18:03:13] | savageone: | and thenI had like 50 gbs of random shows I didn't want |
| [18:03:24] | savageone: | plus, on that time I'd messed up my channel lineup so the files were mis named |
| [18:04:14] | kormoc: | that's why a rm -rf and a new database works wonders :P |
| [18:05:16] | savageone: | ? |
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| [18:05:38] | kormoc: | delete the bad recordings and start over with the database and it'd be nice and clean :P |
| [18:06:33] | juski: | you can export the recordings you want to keep by using nuvexport.. export the recordings & db metadata, delete the cruft, make a new db & reimport the shows you exported |
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| [18:09:55] | savageone: | i tried making a .pls playlist |
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| [18:09:59] | savageone: | in mplayer for windows |
| [18:10:05] | savageone: | and then made sure the paths were relative |
| [18:10:09] | savageone: | and popped it in the video program |
| [18:10:25] | savageone: | and it was not workin |
| [18:10:50] | juski: | paths prolly have to be absolute |
| [18:11:33] | frankrizzo: | for some reason all the shows I record have a job queued up for "User job #4." I dont have that set to run anywhere, and have never defined that job |
| [18:11:46] | frankrizzo: | why is myth trying to run it for everything? |
| [18:12:10] | juski: | frankrizzo: check your recording profiles |
| [18:12:18] | juski: | & recording settings |
| [18:13:18] | frankrizzo: | there is no option for that under recording profiles, you can tell it to run a user job under general |
| [18:13:23] | frankrizzo: | but I dont have that selected |
| [18:14:48] | juski: | it's not impossible that you've found a bug |
| [18:15:01] | frankrizzo: | ok, im running 0.20 |
| [18:15:48] | frankrizzo: | im also having problems with transcoding where it fails with "status 247" |
| [18:16:00] | frankrizzo: | which from what I can tell is an unknown error |
| [18:16:45] | frankrizzo: | not sure where I should go from here. I can try reinstalling mythtv, go back to 0.19 |
| [18:17:15] | frankrizzo: | or rather, go to 0.19 for the first time, 0.20 was the first time I used mythtv |
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| [18:19:29] | juski: | did you actually set up a transcoding profile? |
| [18:19:35] | frankrizzo: | yup |
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| [18:20:07] | juski: | what is it you're trying to transcode? dvb recording, pvr? |
| [18:20:20] | frankrizzo: | tv recordings |
| [18:20:42] | juski: | what _kind_ of tv recordings? |
| [18:20:49] | frankrizzo: | although I may have just fixed it, checking the "run user job #4" for all recordings makes transcoding run |
| [18:20:57] | frankrizzo: | ntsc non hd recordings |
| [18:21:07] | juski: | made with a ....? |
| [18:21:15] | frankrizzo: | pvr 150 |
| [18:21:31] | juski: | mpeg2 to mpeg2 or mpeg2>mpeg4 ? |
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| [18:22:48] | frankrizzo: | not sure, I told it to autodetect |
| [18:23:22] | frankrizzo: | its actually running now though.....before when i did not have the "run user job 4" checked, i got error: status 247 on all transcoding jobs |
| [18:23:23] | savageone: | hey guys |
| [18:23:28] | savageone: | I got the music shit working now |
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| [18:23:47] | r3m0t: | savageone: shit, |
| [18:23:51] | frankrizzo: | with the box checked, I do not. Once this transcoding job finishes I will uncheck the box again and see if it is still broke |
| [18:23:53] | r3m0t: | * shit. |
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| [18:26:28] | juski: | whee downloading a new (test) ver. of minimyth with a new patch incorporated. Might be able to go back to the (just works & boots fast) distro after all |
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| [18:27:24] | juski: | ubuntu is nice, but on the TVoutput of my epia board, I don't see anything onscreen from after the BIOS POST until X starts. hardly friendly |
| [18:28:30] | savageone: | is there a way to make it just always use whatever is in the music folder without having to go to scan for new music and then select music |
| [18:28:32] | savageone: | seems dumb |
| [18:28:51] | juski: | I never have to scan for music just to select & play music |
| [18:29:31] | savageone: | when I add new music I do |
| [18:29:35] | savageone: | they don't show up |
| [18:31:49] | mishehu: | yeah, the system uses a db for the songs instead of just straight off the filesystem |
| [18:32:09] | savageone: | the video system let's you change that |
| [18:32:14] | savageone: | but I don't see a spot for that w/ songs |
| [18:32:21] | savageone: | and I don't really maintain id3 tags too well |
| [18:32:23] | savageone: | I just rely on folders |
| [18:32:49] | juski: | fryfrog: have you seen ticket #2412 ?! |
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| [18:41:51] | nickv111: | Hey. I'm using ivtv with my card, and I can do mplayer /dev/video0 and have it work fine. With mythtv, however, all I get is static |
| [18:42:14] | nickv111: | I have mythtv set up to use /dev/video0 as an MPEG-2 stream with my card, which is a Hauppage PVR-150 |
| [18:42:28] | kormoc: | do you have the freq table set right? |
| [18:42:34] | nickv111: | And, using the ivtv drivers, I can watch TV with mplayer /dev/video0. I'm just wondering why I get static with mythtv |
| [18:42:39] | nickv111: | What's that? |
| [18:42:48] | kormoc: | it's the table myth uses to tune channels |
| [18:42:59] | kormoc: | it's in mythtv-setup |
| [18:43:07] | nickv111: | Well, I had it scan for channels |
| [18:43:09] | nickv111: | Let me see. |
| [18:43:20] | kormoc: | are you in the us? |
| [18:44:15] | nickv111: | Yes |
| [18:44:21] | nickv111: | I use DataDirect for my channel information |
| [18:44:29] | kormoc: | so why are you scanning at all? |
| [18:44:37] | nickv111: | Not sure. |
| [18:44:49] | kormoc: | well then, you might not want to :P |
| [18:47:10] | nickv111: | Well, then, I'll try to fix that |
| [18:47:12] | nickv111: | And see if it works |
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| [18:59:46] | fryfrog: | juski: no, what is it? |
| [19:01:07] | nickv111: | kormoc: Okay, I fixed that, but it still doesn't work. Whatever channel I choose, I get static |
| [19:01:12] | fryfrog: | juski: oh, damn |
| [19:01:19] | fryfrog: | juski: seems like exactly your problem? |
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| [19:03:51] | juski: | fryfrog: yeah but see steve adeffs' comments ;) |
| [19:04:22] | juski: | the OSD, when xvmc is used, is being drawn twice, even when it's 'not' ;) |
| [19:04:52] | fryfrog: | sheesh, that could be causing problems on non-epia stuff too i'm sure |
| [19:05:02] | fryfrog: | damnit, i didn't *want* to run an svn version of myth |
| [19:05:11] | fryfrog: | i wanted to use ubuntu packages :/ |
| [19:05:21] | fryfrog: | does anyone know of a repo with svn's -fixes branch? |
| [19:05:23] | juski: | fryfrog: you don't have to. it'll apply to -fixes |
| [19:05:43] | juski: | building it is no big deal on your frontend, sheesh |
| [19:05:52] | juski: | sudo apt-get build-dep mythtv |
| [19:05:57] | fryfrog: | oh? |
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| [19:06:12] | juski: | then grab a -fixes checkout from svn ;) |
| [19:06:44] | fryfrog: | E: Unable to find a source package for mythtv |
| [19:06:47] | fryfrog: | weird :/ |
| [19:06:48] | fryfrog: | oh |
| [19:06:52] | fryfrog: | i bet its repos |
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| [19:07:03] | juski: | fryfrog: ahh you'd need superm1's repo |
| [19:07:29] | juski: | deb http://home.eng.iastate.edu/~superm1 dapper main |
| [19:07:30] | juski: | deb-src http://home.eng.iastate.edu/~superm1 dapper main |
| [19:07:38] | juski: | but change dapper to edgy I guess |
| [19:10:00] | juski: | careful of it though.. you might end up with an updated db schema |
| [19:10:25] | juski: | prolly best to rebuild everything. after what you've been through I'd say it'd be worth a shot |
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| [19:13:31] | heh_v_water: | I get this error when i run the mythtv-backend init script using etch.. Session management error: Could not open network socket .. any help would be greatly appreciated |
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| [19:13:46] | juski: | heh_v_water: but mythtv works regardless? |
| [19:14:08] | juski: | heh_v_water: it's an error you can ignore, that one |
| [19:14:38] | heh_v_water: | well actually I never tried I just figured it errored out... I am thinking it is related to why I keep getting an error trying to view my capture card with the frontend |
| [19:15:01] | wwalker: | if I'm Not doing high def, that is for plain def, on a Pentium D, what is the cheapest card that will do capture? I assume the Pentium D is fast enough I don't need a hardware encoder? |
| [19:15:05] | frankrizzo: | juski, you still here? |
| [19:15:10] | juski: | frankrizzo: yup |
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| [19:15:40] | juski: | wwalker: in any case, software encoding is sucky & too limiting IMHO |
| [19:15:46] | kormoc: | wwalker, sure, but uh, hardware encoders look way better then software encoders do |
| [19:15:49] | frankrizzo: | okay, so it works with high quality transcoder |
| [19:15:59] | frankrizzo: | but if you tell it low or medium, it gives status 247 |
| [19:16:00] | kormoc: | wwalker, and it's only a little bit of price difference |
| [19:16:14] | frankrizzo: | with high quality, the recording went from 1.1 gigs to 2.2 |
| [19:16:14] | juski: | like on bttv tuners where you don't get audio capture, you need a soundcard PER tuner to capture audio |
| [19:16:19] | wwalker: | kormoc, I thought the difference was like $50 to $200 |
| [19:16:24] | kormoc: | not at all |
| [19:16:24] | juski: | wwalker: nah |
| [19:16:30] | kormoc: | a pvr 150 is like $65 |
| [19:16:46] | wwalker: | OK, let me turn it around. for non-high def, what do you guys recommend I buy? |
| [19:16:53] | kormoc: | a pvr 150 :) |
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| [19:18:06] | fryfrog: | juski: do you just make / make install? |
| [19:18:15] | fryfrog: | or do you actually make .debs from the -fixes branch? |
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| [19:20:05] | wwalker: | so if I buy a pvr-150, what CPU do I need to get skipless capture? Assume 1 pvr-150 and nothing else running on it. movies will be rsync'd off to another server after they are captured (but not while capture is occurring? |
| [19:20:43] | fryfrog: | for backend only, a p2 500 + pvr150 will capture just fine |
| [19:20:58] | kormoc: | I used a p3 733 just fine |
| [19:20:58] | juski: | fryfrog: I just make & make install |
| [19:21:01] | fryfrog: | why would you rsync them off the server? |
| [19:21:09] | fryfrog: | juski: did you do what he suggested? |
| [19:21:18] | fryfrog: | the "apply change set blah blah" |
| [19:21:33] | wwalker: | I found before that I had capture problems when anything else was running on the machine. especially anything that caused IO. |
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| [19:21:52] | juski: | fryfrog: I've got a new version of minimyth with the change compiled in |
| [19:22:00] | fryfrog: | ahhh, nice |
| [19:22:03] | wwalker: | (P3 650 doing software encoding I think, been almost a year since I tried this. |
| [19:22:09] | juski: | just about to build the same version of mythtv on the backend |
| [19:22:10] | fryfrog: | i wonder if it is already *in* the fixes branch? |
| [19:22:11] | wwalker: | off to the store. |
| [19:22:26] | juski: | fryfrog: I don't think it is. it's only in head I think |
| [19:22:48] | fryfrog: | so are you compiling svn -fixes or head? |
| [19:22:50] | fryfrog: | on your backend? |
| [19:22:54] | juski: | -fixes |
| [19:23:00] | juski: | and I'm not compiling yet |
| [19:23:00] | fryfrog: | *with* that patch applied? |
| [19:23:12] | juski: | the backend won't have the patch applied. doesn't need it |
| [19:23:19] | fryfrog: | ah, your be isn't a fe also? |
| [19:23:32] | juski: | that's right. my backend is just a backend |
| [19:23:39] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [19:24:10] | fryfrog: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/search?q=11327& . . . mp;ticket=on |
| [19:24:19] | fryfrog: | i'm not sure which patch i need to apply :/ |
| [19:26:07] | juski: | 11364 |
| [19:26:12] | fryfrog: | ah |
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| [19:27:32] | juski: | oh crap |
| [19:27:59] | juski: | I'm currently using 11626 |
| [19:28:05] | juski: | the newer minimyth is 11671 |
| [19:28:34] | juski: | -fixes is now up to 11782 |
| [19:28:48] | fryfrog: | it looks like -fixes includes the fix |
| [19:28:53] | fryfrog: | so why not just svn up? |
| [19:28:56] | fryfrog: | on both sides |
| [19:29:06] | juski: | I can't build minimyth on ubuntu |
| [19:29:11] | juski: | god knows I've tried |
| [19:29:17] | fryfrog: | oh |
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| [19:29:27] | fryfrog: | ubuntu on both boxes, ftw :) |
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| [19:29:38] | fryfrog: | i don't spose you know how i might use apt to compile myth? |
| [19:29:39] | juski: | ubuntu on the frontend.. nothing onscreen until X starts |
| [19:29:47] | heh_v_water: | okay so when i want to watch tv it gives me this thing that says mythtv is already using all available inputs for the channel i selected.. |
| [19:29:50] | fryfrog: | i have something like that too |
| [19:29:58] | fryfrog: | nothing goes out the DVI cable till X start |
| [19:30:06] | fryfrog: | so i have a monitor sitting on top of it |
| [19:30:14] | fryfrog: | or, if i wanted i *could* hook an svideo cable up |
| [19:30:15] | juski: | fryfrog: well with this I dont _need_ the fix |
| [19:30:18] | fryfrog: | and just switch between |
| [19:30:28] | fryfrog: | svideo or dvi cable? |
| [19:30:31] | juski: | plus ubuntu is taking too long to boot |
| [19:30:33] | juski: | svideo |
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| [19:30:47] | juski: | the problem is ubuntu's bootsplash I think |
| [19:31:15] | frankrizzo: | juski, I just tried autodetect as a transcoding option, and it changed a 703.7 MB file to 1.3 GB. It looks like only upconverting works which is werid. I dont see any differences in the transcoding profiles |
| [19:31:51] | juski: | I'm refraining from answering transcoding questions on the basis I don't know enough about it |
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| [19:32:21] | juski: | I only know about the eejut stuff ;) |
| [19:32:33] | juski: | bigger HDDs ftw! |
| [19:32:44] | juski: | keep less. watch more |
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| [19:32:59] | juski: | TV is _so_ disposable it's unbelievable |
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| [19:35:13] | frankrizzo: | id agree, but I cant burn dvds for some reason |
| [19:35:30] | frankrizzo: | making arhcing tough, I am recording a bunch of shows for someone overseas |
| [19:35:43] | frankrizzo: | so when they return they can watch it all |
| [19:36:26] | juski: | maybe mythtranscode is pooping itself |
| [19:36:47] | frankrizzo: | im trying to convert to mpg4 now |
| [19:36:57] | frankrizzo: | we'll see if it cuts down on the file size |
| [19:37:34] | juski: | hrm how would I go about checking out a specific version again? |
| [19:37:41] | ** juski r's tfm ** | |
| [19:41:25] | juski: | -r 11671. nice |
| [19:42:18] | frankrizzo: | argg, when I try and select files to archive to dvd the frontend crashes with the following message "mythfrontend: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/mythtv/plugins/libmytharchive.so: undefined symbol: _ZNK11ProgramInfo17GetRecordBasenameEb |
| [19:42:20] | juski: | so fryfrog as far as you know, edgy uses upstart right? can dapper use upstart too? |
| [19:42:36] | juski: | frankrizzo: looks like a missing lib |
| [19:43:02] | frankrizzo: | i recently used yum to make sure I was on the latest version of mythtv |
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| [19:43:17] | frankrizzo: | when i was having problems with transcoding to see if it would fix it |
| [19:43:27] | frankrizzo: | how would I go about troubleshooting the missing lib? |
| [19:43:57] | juski: | might not be a missing lib.. could be mixed versions you have there |
| [19:45:08] | frankrizzo: | ok, I am not sure how to go about troubleshooting either of those things |
| [19:47:26] | juski: | oh fack. I can't remember which prefix I used to install myth to, and I have mythfrontend in /usr & /usr/local – both different |
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| [19:48:18] | juski: | ah I'm using the ones in /usr/local |
| [19:49:26] | juski: | but hang on it's getting the themes from /usr/share not /usr/local/share. wtf have I done? |
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| [19:51:12] | juski: | hmm. ldd /usr/local/bin/mythfrontend lists objects in /usr/bin and not /usr/local/bin. now I'm confused |
| [19:53:06] | juski: | would I be right in thinking that the --prefix used in ./configure is for the linker rather than the install location of mythfrontend, say? |
| [19:54:40] | fryfrog: | juski: do you apt-get remove mythtv and such before you install your compiled version? |
| [19:55:02] | juski: | fryfrog: yeah |
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| [19:55:18] | juski: | but it seems a remove wasn't enough |
| [19:55:25] | fryfrog: | and the "build-dep" keeps it from removing the stuff you need to run, right? |
| [19:55:35] | juski: | must've had to do a --purge |
| [19:55:38] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [19:56:00] | fryfrog: | apt-get remove --purge? |
| [19:56:05] | juski: | think so |
| [19:56:26] | squish102: | any1 tried to do OTA HD content, lab2it and it works and updates program guide? |
| [19:56:29] | fryfrog: | just waiting for the latest -fixes branch to compile :/ |
| [19:56:43] | juski: | so if I do ./configure --prefix=/usr it'll put the libs in /usr/lib but the actual _programs_ get installed to wherever the user's path is? |
| [19:56:50] | fryfrog: | squish102: I do QAM HD using labs.zap2it.com's OTA listing |
| [19:56:58] | squish102: | lab2it updates my pvr-150 but not my HD OTA channels |
| [19:57:14] | squish102: | it is numbered strange like 6_1 and 6_2 |
| [19:57:20] | fryfrog: | squish102: you mean the freq information? or actual shows? |
| [19:57:28] | squish102: | the show info |
| [19:57:28] | fryfrog: | squish102: that is standard HD channel name convention |
| [19:57:43] | fryfrog: | does a manual run of "mythfilldatabase" show any errors? |
| [19:57:47] | squish102: | it works fine, just shows "no data" in the program guide |
| [19:57:58] | fryfrog: | and you do have *two* channel line ups with zap, right? an OTA HD one and the OTA SD? |
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| [19:58:23] | fryfrog: | squish102: in the db, do your "hd" channels have xmltv ids? |
| [19:58:25] | squish102: | fryfrog: nope, done multiple clear all channels, and filldatabase. i have 2 on labs2it |
| [19:58:47] | squish102: | i have OTA and cable SD) |
| [19:58:54] | fryfrog: | humm |
| [19:59:06] | squish102: | fryfrog: i dont know what xmltv's are |
| [19:59:09] | fryfrog: | I use cable's QAM, so i had to find my channels and then bind xmltv ids to it :/ |
| [19:59:54] | squish102: | i guess labs2it cannot match mythtv channels, which i could do if i knew what to do/if it can be done |
| [20:00:56] | squish102: | labs2it shows 23 WBTVDT2, but mythtv may show that as 6_1 |
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| [20:02:57] | fryfrog: | that doesn't make much of a different, its the xmltv id you have to match |
| [20:03:00] | fryfrog: | which sounds like the problem |
| [20:03:10] | fryfrog: | you use live tv, switch to the hd input with "y" |
| [20:03:15] | fryfrog: | then, i think hit "e" for edit |
| [20:03:30] | squish102: | ok |
| [20:03:34] | fryfrog: | now, when you tune to 6_1 which it thinks is 23, look up the xmltv id for 23 and stick it there |
| [20:03:47] | fryfrog: | its prolly easier to do it all in the db, using say phpmyadmin if you have it |
| [20:03:59] | juski: | you can edit channels in livetv? ooo |
| [20:04:01] | fryfrog: | and i'm not sure if there is an easy way to get labs.zap2it.com to *show* you the xmltv id |
| [20:04:11] | juski: | so livetv _does_ have a use after all |
| [20:04:13] | fryfrog: | yeah, like the title, xmlid and a few other fields |
| [20:04:14] | squish102: | yip i have it, but how do i get the xmltv id |
| [20:04:35] | fryfrog: | look at the channel table, find a channel you recognize by name like WSBTVDT2 |
| [20:04:40] | fryfrog: | and then find the xmltvid column |
| [20:05:39] | squish102: | thanks let me try scratching around |
| [20:06:20] | juski: | well I think my assumption about the --prefix thing must be along the right lines |
| [20:07:02] | juski: | or not |
| [20:07:08] | juski: | jesus my backend is in a mess |
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| [20:07:31] | squish102: | fryfrog: any idea what table i would be looking in? |
| [20:07:32] | juski: | I have two versions of mythtv on my box. whoops! |
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| [20:08:09] | fryfrog: | mythconverg db, and i think the table is "channel" |
| [20:09:13] | juski: | backend running is in /usr/bin/mythbackend. mythtv-setup is /usr/local/bin/mythsetup |
| [20:09:25] | juski: | mythfrontend is /usr/local/bin/mythfrontend |
| [20:09:26] | fryfrog: | yuck :p |
| [20:09:27] | juski: | yeesh |
| [20:09:58] | squish102: | fryfrog: thanks |
| [20:10:14] | juski: | but the themes etc are being read from /usr/share not /usr/local/share |
| [20:10:22] | juski: | oof. this is bad |
| [20:10:34] | juski: | still – a miracle it all works ;) |
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| [20:12:36] | juski: | database is schema ver. 1062 |
| [20:12:45] | juski: | whoops 1160 |
| [20:13:02] | juski: | wow. I got off amazingly lightly I think |
| [20:13:38] | juski: | or "how not to build mythtv from source" to put it another way |
| [20:14:26] | frankrizzo: | when I convert to mpeg4, the file extension is .nuv |
| [20:14:33] | juski: | yup |
| [20:14:38] | juski: | nuppelvideo mpeg4 |
| [20:14:51] | frankrizzo: | oh, okay |
| [20:14:51] | juski: | only mythtv can play it. good eh? |
| [20:15:13] | juski: | well, nuvexport will prolly be able to export it |
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| [20:15:33] | frankrizzo: | k, or convert the mpeg2 outside of myth, right? |
| [20:15:58] | juski: | spose so |
| [20:16:13] | gmad: | hy! I've got problem during mythtv installation. Could anyone help me? |
| [20:16:18] | frankrizzo: | k, mpeg4 works for me for transcoding, so im good there |
| [20:16:43] | juski: | gmad: just describe the problem. post long error logs in pastebins etc... |
| [20:16:50] | gmad: | ok. |
| [20:17:07] | juski: | by 'long' I mean more than a couple of lines |
| [20:17:46] | gmad: | I've working on gentoo, when I am compiling mythtv, I've got error, like this: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-517712.html |
| [20:18:05] | frankrizzo: | juski, sorry to keep on bugging you, but you gave two suggestions for what my problem with the frontend crashing could be, but I honestly dont have the experience to look up how to trouble shoot them. I have been looking on the mailing list archive, but cant find anything useful for my particular problem |
| [20:18:20] | gmad: | look only at the code – description of problem in polish |
| [20:18:28] | fryfrog: | are you using very recent nvidia drivers? have you used eselect to pick the nvidia opengl? |
| [20:18:32] | juski: | frankrizzo: trouble stems from using 2 different ways of installing packages on your FC box |
| [20:18:41] | frankrizzo: | ive only used yum |
| [20:18:43] | fryfrog: | and why are you compiling 0.19 instead of 0.20? |
| [20:18:58] | frankrizzo: | on fedora 5 |
| [20:19:09] | gmad: | I have nvidia drivers and added nvidia to configure |
| [20:19:25] | juski: | gmad: why are you not using the ebuilds? |
| [20:19:45] | gmad: | I am using official ebuild |
| [20:20:26] | juski: | looks like a problem with the glx libraries/headers that the ebuild has pulled in |
| [20:20:27] | fryfrog: | gmad: 0.20 is in portage, but maybe it is masked or ~? |
| [20:20:41] | fryfrog: | gmad: is that *your* error? or someone elses? |
| [20:20:53] | gmad: | yes. 0.20 is masked, but it's the same with 0.20 |
| [20:21:06] | fryfrog: | try switching your opengl to x11 |
| [20:21:06] | juski: | is 'opengl' in your USE flags? |
| [20:21:12] | fryfrog: | yeah, that too |
| [20:21:18] | gmad: | it is my error after those lines emerge is stoped |
| [20:21:22] | fryfrog: | eselect opengl set x11 |
| [20:21:34] | juski: | ack. my head is fried. I'm offski |
| [20:21:52] | gmad: | no I havent opengl |
| [20:21:58] | gmad: | in USE flags |
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| [20:22:36] | gmad: | localhost ~ # eselect opengl set x11 |
| [20:22:36] | gmad: | !!! Error: Unrecognized option: x11 |
| [20:22:36] | gmad: | exiting. |
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| [20:23:37] | gmad: | fryfrog: how to do it? |
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| [20:25:53] | juski: | hahaha! sorry I just had to try a theme idea |
| [20:33:57] | juski: | www.juski.co.uk/xmyth.png – it works properly since I put the logo (with tree etc) in base.xml |
| [20:36:53] | fryfrog: | juski: did you remember to apt-get remove the mythtv-backend, mythtv-frontend, etc? |
| [20:37:01] | juski: | fryfrog: I think I did |
| [20:37:06] | juski: | is there a way I can check? |
| [20:37:27] | fryfrog: | i dunno, haven't figure that part of apt out yet :) |
| [20:37:35] | fryfrog: | asside from running a remove and seeing if it errors |
| [20:39:00] | juski: | I don't think remove actually deletes any files |
| [20:39:06] | fryfrog: | it sure did for me |
| [20:39:14] | fryfrog: | my init script is gone, my executable sare gone |
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| [20:39:37] | juski: | I think I'll need er.. more seasoned help to sort this snafu out |
| [20:39:51] | juski: | I'm sure it's just a minor thing but I want to be sure I'm doing the right thing |
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| [20:41:45] | juski: | I'm definitely too tired (not alert enough) to sort it out right now |
| [20:42:22] | juski: | I think backing up all the myth libs is the way to go, then delete em |
| [20:42:57] | juski: | right that's the hoofer woman removed from the rec. priorites watermark |
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| [20:44:08] | juski: | and the massive pile of vcrs has to go from the 'watch recorded' watermark |
| [20:44:24] | thedward: | Huh. My frontend inists I have no recordings scheduled, but there are lots in record table of the database. |
| [20:44:43] | juski: | thedward: try running mythbackend --resched |
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| [20:48:34] | tracy: | still stuck on getting zap2it program data for OTA HD channels. |
| [20:49:36] | thedward: | juski: I didn't get any errors, but that didn't seem to help. |
| [20:54:39] | fryfrog: | juski: well, svn-fixes fixed me |
| [20:54:46] | fryfrog: | juski: my master be's frontend is working fine |
| [20:54:49] | juski: | fryfrog: yay! |
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| [20:55:38] | savageone: | hey folks |
| [20:55:49] | savageone: | ripping dvds |
| [20:55:57] | savageone: | good howto on the wiki but it doesn't mention ripping to iso |
| [20:56:07] | juski: | that's be 'perfect' IIRC |
| [20:56:11] | savageone: | so if I'm scrolling through the titles on my dvd and choosing which ones |
| [20:56:28] | savageone: | I understand that each title, or vob, will be a different file |
| [20:56:31] | savageone: | but what if I choose iso? |
| [20:56:40] | savageone: | shouldn't that rip the dvd completely as is in all one file w/ the menu? |
| [20:56:47] | savageone: | but it still let's me chose title by title |
| [20:56:59] | savageone: | my question is, if I just chose title one and hit iso will it do that |
| [20:57:10] | savageone: | I can try both but I figured I'd ask first in case anyone knew |
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| [20:57:12] | GeekZoid: | hi all |
| [20:57:23] | GeekZoid: | I'm using Audio cable sfor my sound and im gettign static |
| [20:57:37] | GeekZoid: | would it be inteference from the other computer which it passes? |
| [20:57:46] | juski: | fryfrog: thanks to my eagle-eye then eh? |
| [20:57:51] | GeekZoid: | should i buy better audio cables |
| [20:57:54] | juski: | pays to subscribe to the -dev list :) |
| [20:57:55] | GeekZoid: | would that fix it |
| [20:58:02] | juski: | GeekZoid: probably not |
| [20:58:22] | juski: | maybe fine tuning, or might be a recording or playback issue |
| [20:58:35] | juski: | depends what the static is |
| [20:58:41] | GeekZoid: | oh.. |
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| [20:59:03] | juski: | if it's crackly, like there's gaps in the audio, then more than likely a playback issue |
| [20:59:24] | GeekZoid: | what would it soundl iek if its interference? |
| [20:59:28] | juski: | try changing some of the tv playback settings to do with audio, e.g. 'use extra audio bufferiing' |
| [21:00:19] | juski: | if it's interference – like if the channel isn't tuned properly... it'd basically just be much |
| [21:00:27] | juski: | s/much/mush |
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| [21:04:25] | savageone: | anyone do a lot of ripping |
| [21:05:06] | savageone: | if I do view for a preview of the track, I don't get any voice just music of the characters, I think it's just previewing it w/ 2 of the rear surround channels, does switching it to ac3 fix this? it doesn't in the preview. what is ac3? |
| [21:05:14] | frankrizzo: | how would one go about checking to see if there is a version mismatch with my mytharchive or the libaries it uses? |
| [21:08:34] | GeekZoid: | |
| [21:08:35] | GeekZoid: | :q! |
| [21:08:39] | GeekZoid: | |
| [21:08:42] | GeekZoid: | sorry |
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| [21:18:14] | fryfrog: | whelp, the -fixes branch in svn seems to have made life good again |
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| [21:18:34] | frankrizzo: | whats this svn? |
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| [21:20:53] | fryfrog: | is a revision control system, for source code |
| [21:21:04] | fryfrog: | the "-fixes" branch is 0.20 with any of the fixes they come up with applied |
| [21:21:09] | frankrizzo: | ah, kinda like cvs? |
| [21:21:12] | fryfrog: | i don't know *why* they don't release an *update* :/ |
| [21:21:13] | fryfrog: | yup |
| [21:21:22] | fryfrog: | i believe its supposed to be the new and *improved* cvs :) |
| [21:21:30] | frankrizzo: | ah, okay |
| [21:21:33] | fryfrog: | old and busted: cvs, new hotness: svn :) |
| [21:21:41] | juski: | cvs == deprecated |
| [21:21:58] | frankrizzo: | argg, trying to do a yum – y update mytharchive |
| [21:22:14] | frankrizzo: | when it starting working on the dependencies it ran out of mirrors to try |
| [21:22:25] | juski: | only way to ever be 100% sure all the libs are the right versions is to build it yerself :-P |
| [21:22:39] | frankrizzo: | how do you go about that? |
| [21:22:47] | juski: | read some docs |
| [21:22:59] | Anduin: | people mess up when they build as well |
| [21:23:13] | juski: | yeah they end up with loads of different libs like I've got |
| [21:23:17] | juski: | (duh!) |
| [21:23:22] | frankrizzo: | haha |
| [21:23:28] | juski: | bloody miracle it works tbh |
| [21:23:32] | frankrizzo: | I dont even know what libaries I would have to build though |
| [21:23:35] | juski: | I'll sort it out tomorrow |
| [21:23:50] | juski: | frankrizzo: basically remove everything mythtv related apart from the database |
| [21:24:15] | juski: | then grab an svn checkout of the -fixes branch. configure. compile & install |
| [21:24:33] | Anduin: | frankrizzo: for yum mirror issues you can usually just try again |
| [21:25:24] | juski: | just backed up all my theme working files |
| [21:25:31] | frankrizzo: | maybe a stupid question, but how do I remove everything mythtv related? |
| [21:25:46] | frankrizzo: | I am trying yum again to see if it goes, but I am willing to try anything here |
| [21:25:52] | juski: | just retry yum for now |
| [21:25:56] | juski: | mirrors come & go |
| [21:26:15] | juski: | its not exactly hard to build from source but it's also easy to screw it up |
| [21:26:45] | frankrizzo: | ok, i am going to looking into the source option while I am waiting for yum |
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| [21:27:40] | juski: | I wouldn't mind know exactly what the --prefix part of ./configure does, to get a slightly better idea of what the hell I'm doing |
| [21:28:30] | Anduin: | juski: It just determines the base for the files, /usr/local being the default from svn, /usr being what many packages would use |
| [21:28:42] | juski: | ah |
| [21:29:08] | juski: | so it determines the base for the libs & the executables then? |
| [21:29:28] | Anduin: | juski: Yes, base for looking for themes, etc |
| [21:29:38] | juski: | heh |
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| [21:29:47] | juski: | I've got some work ahead of me then |
| [21:30:33] | juski: | tomorrow when I sort it out I think I'm gonna have to find every occurrence of *myth* in /usr & its sub directories & flatten em |
| [21:30:40] | juski: | then rebuild it properly |
| [21:31:16] | juski: | ended up with /usr/bin/myth* and /usr/local/bin/myth*, both different versions |
| [21:31:35] | juski: | mythfrontend is coming from /usr/local but the init script is loading mythbackend from /usr/bin |
| [21:31:46] | Anduin: | Yeah, that happens often when people mix packages and source builds |
| [21:32:00] | juski: | reason I didn't spot it right from the start is that it just happens that they're happy to coexist |
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| [21:32:36] | juski: | lord knows what version my frontend is |
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| [21:32:56] | juski: | I think I'll have to find out how to make debs myself |
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| [21:33:20] | geekzoid: | hi all |
| [21:33:23] | Anduin: | making packages from source builds is what I do as well |
| [21:33:28] | geekzoid: | when i use mjy mythtv it pauses and then starts again |
| [21:33:34] | geekzoid: | what could b causing that problem and how would i fix it |
| [21:33:41] | geekzoid: | it does slight pauses |
| [21:34:06] | Anduin: | geekzoid: It could be several things |
| [21:34:08] | juski: | Anduin: do you know if via xvmc libs would be included just by enabling xvmc or will I have to do some magic to get it to build for both nvidia & via ? |
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| [21:34:34] | geekzoid: | could you name the few and how i could resolve it? the cpu is fine its a 64 it processor and there's no workload on he disk |
| [21:34:41] | daint: | hello, can anyone tell me how to get from the MythTV main screen, back to the mythtv-setup? |
| [21:34:49] | juski: | daint: you don't |
| [21:34:52] | Anduin: | juski: configure should be looking for the libs when you run it (there is output if vld is found I believe) |
| [21:35:02] | juski: | daint: mythtv-setup is a seperate app |
| [21:35:17] | daint: | how can I run this app again after initial setup then? |
| [21:35:30] | daint: | sorry, I'm not great with linux, just ok |
| [21:35:58] | juski: | Anduin: right. on my backend (which is nvidia based) when I run configure I see xvmc is enabled but not xvmc_pro (which IIRC is only for unichrome pro anyway) |
| [21:36:12] | Anduin: | geekzoid: What is your video source? (x50, some hd card, etc) |
| [21:36:36] | frankrizzo: | if I were to compile, would I be building rpms from SVN? (I am on Fedora 5) |
| [21:36:42] | geekzoid: | video source is pvr150 and pvr350 |
| [21:36:49] | geekzoid: | nvidia card |
| [21:36:57] | juski: | geekzoid: do you have nvidia or nv drivers installed? |
| [21:37:06] | geekzoid: | nvidia drivers installed |
| [21:37:13] | Anduin: | juski: There should be a line: XvMC VLD and then yes or no |
| [21:37:30] | juski: | Anduin: yeah I get that. sweetness :) |
| [21:37:48] | Anduin: | geekzoid: and the frontend isn't using all the CPU while playing? Is this live TV? |
| [21:37:56] | geekzoid: | yes itslive tv |
| [21:37:57] | fryfrog: | Include /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/[^.#]* |
| [21:38:11] | juski: | well thanks for now.. heading downstairs for a bit |
| [21:38:11] | fryfrog: | that line in ubuntu's apache should include any files that start with a number, right? |
| [21:38:47] | Anduin: | geekzoid: You may want to look at the frontend logs, though it will probably only say that it is a prebuffering pause |
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| [21:39:31] | geekzoid: | mythfrontend is taking about 10–20 percent cpu usages |
| [21:39:57] | daint: | doing a dvbscan, and getting following error |
| [21:39:59] | daint: | FATAL: failed to open '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0': 16 Device or resource busy |
| [21:41:32] | geekzoid: | anduin: any other advice? |
| [21:42:09] | Anduin: | geekzoid: What does the frontend log say? |
| [21:42:36] | geekzoid: | it isn't saying anything (your talking about he outpuot from the conjsole right?) |
| [21:43:10] | geekzoid: | it has one prebuffering pause |
| [21:43:13] | Anduin: | geekzoid: Yeah, if you started mythfrontend from a console, when you start live TV there should at least be something |
| [21:43:26] | geekzoid: | yes it showed one prebuffering pause |
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| [21:43:48] | Anduin: | geekzoid: Did you enable any feature like, use video for time base? |
| [21:44:09] | fryfrog: | ls |
| [21:44:10] | fryfrog: | oops |
| [21:44:13] | geekzoid: | no i havent |
| [21:44:18] | geekzoid: | i was thiking abuot it |
| [21:44:42] | frankrizzo: | i did the yum – y update mytharchive, and I still get "mythfrontend: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/mythtv/plugins/libmytharchive.so: undefined symbol: _ZNK11ProgramInfo17GetRecordBasenameEb" |
| [21:44:47] | geekzoid: | its using real time priority |
| [21:44:55] | frankrizzo: | when trying to click on okay to select media to archive to dvd |
| [21:44:59] | frankrizzo: | from mytharchive |
| [21:45:24] | Anduin: | geekzoid: Is there any difference if you play something pre-recorded? |
| [21:45:31] | geekzoid: | hold |
| [21:45:33] | daveyiv: | Does anyone know if the Hauppauge WinTV 401 uses the i2v driver? I am trying to get the remote working with lirc and can't seem to figure it out. I am trying to use the i2v driver. Does anyone know what else I can try? |
| [21:45:42] | daint: | anyone any idea how why dvbscan gives FATAL: failed to open '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0': 16 Device or resource busy, or how to fix it? |
| [21:45:44] | geekzoid: | i saw this error message when changing channels |
| [21:45:47] | geekzoid: | 2006-11–19 16:45:09.285 TFW, Error: Write() — IOBOUND end |
| [21:46:18] | geekzoid: | that was from the backend |
| [21:47:12] | geekzoid: | it doesnt seem to bea problem in media library files |
| [21:47:51] | Anduin: | geekzoid: What about if you pause in live tv for a few seconds/ |
| [21:48:41] | geekzoid: | here's an additional problem when it is working correctly |
| [21:48:59] | geekzoid: | the sound is crackly when i go in and i have to exit out of the live tv and go back in inorder to fix it |
| [21:49:09] | geekzoid: | it happens another mythtv box i've set up as well |
| [21:49:24] | geekzoid: | and saevs it when its recording |
| [21:49:57] | Anduin: | geekzoid: Yeah, if it is in the recording when you play with another player it is probably ivtv |
| [21:50:13] | geekzoid: | hmm |
| [21:50:16] | geekzoid: | darn bugs in ittvtv |
| [21:50:17] | geekzoid: | :) |
| [21:50:41] | daint: | Anduin, you seem to knwo your linux, how do I stop KnoppMyth booting straight into the app, rather than mythtv-setup? |
| [21:50:44] | Anduin: | geekzoid: Yeah, you may want to try the newer versions (if you haven't) |
| [21:50:51] | geekzoid: | im using the newest version |
| [21:50:54] | geekzoid: | maybei should revert to an older one :) |
| [21:51:04] | geekzoid: | because i dont think i had that proble with the oldero ne |
| [21:51:22] | Anduin: | daint: I don't know KnoppMyth, you could always boot to runlevel 3 |
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| [21:52:02] | daint: | Sorry, to save keep wasting your time, and without doing a course in linux, how do I find little things like this out? |
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| [21:52:36] | defaultro: | hey folks, can I make my hdd better than the reading right now which is .:::[Timing buffered disk reads: 146 MB in 3.03 seconds = 48.21 MB/sec]::. |
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| [21:53:10] | Anduin: | daint: asking, googling, or spending a good chunk of your life reading about it |
| [21:54:13] | daveyiv: | I am trying to test my hauppauge remote using irw, but when i run the command it just immediatly brings up another command line, whats going on? |
| [21:54:24] | xris: | Anduin: I have a new option for nuvexport to spit out .txt files with name:value pairs on each line |
| [21:54:26] | fryfrog: | juski: i don't spose updating your svn to -fixes broke mythweb, did it? |
| [21:54:54] | xris: | if you think that info is good enough for mythvideo, I'll commit this so we can start testing (once visit0r adds a new importer) |
| [21:55:37] | daint: | Ok, thanks for that, dare I say it, I think my Ritzdvb setup is probably a safer option |
| [21:55:58] | geekzoid: | has there been any known problems with RCA audio cables |
| [21:56:00] | geekzoid: | with static? |
| [21:56:03] | geekzoid: | with ivtv |
| [21:56:30] | fryfrog: | xris: is there any specific php flag that needs to be on to let mythweb connect *to* the backend? |
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| [21:57:04] | fryfrog: | i'm trying to setup svn -fixes mythweb on my ubuntu apache, the "official" mythweb worked with their setup |
| [21:57:10] | Anduin: | xris: Yeah that should be fine for mythvideo, something other than .txt would be nice though |
| [21:57:13] | fryfrog: | mine is giving an Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION 'MYTH_PROTO_VERSION 31': |
| [21:57:39] | Anduin: | fryfrog: You can't mix and match |
| [21:58:04] | fryfrog: | i'm not |
| [21:58:09] | fryfrog: | i'm using svn of *everything* |
| [21:58:28] | fryfrog: | i don't think its actually *connecting* to the backend, because grepping my backend log file for "proto" yields lots of "31" results |
| [21:58:40] | fryfrog: | and i don't see any "adding blah blah blah as client" when i hit my mythweb |
| [21:59:00] | fryfrog: | like perhaps my php or apache config isn't allowing it to connect :/ |
| [21:59:33] | xris: | fryfrog: shouldn't be. just firewall perms |
| [21:59:55] | fryfrog: | it *should* be going over localhost :/ |
| [22:00:00] | fryfrog: | or an internal ip |
| [22:00:00] | xris: | Anduin: you can pick whatever file extension you want. .dat didn't seem appropriate, and .nfo has other implications. I ran out of ideas at that point. |
| [22:00:20] | xris: | fryfrog: selinux? |
| [22:00:27] | fryfrog: | god, i hope ubuntu doesn't have that? |
| [22:00:50] | daveyiv: | I am trying to test my hauppauge remote using irw, but when i run the command it just immediatly brings up another command line, whats going on? Is there anywhere i can see what error it is throwing or osmething to try to figure out why it wont run? |
| [22:00:52] | fryfrog: | i've not seen any sign of it being on ubuntu |
| [22:01:40] | fryfrog: | http://pastebin.ca/252720 |
| [22:01:41] | xris: | daveyiv: sounds like lircd isn't running? |
| [22:01:43] | fryfrog: | thats the error i see |
| [22:01:50] | Anduin: | daveyiv: It usually means lircd isn't running or isn't connected to the device |
| [22:02:01] | daveyiv: | how can i be sure that it is running and connected? |
| [22:02:08] | xris: | fryfrog: that's connecting just fine |
| [22:02:33] | fryfrog: | oh? |
| [22:02:35] | xris: | just getting mismatched data |
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| [22:02:45] | fryfrog: | shouldn't i see some "adding blah blah" as client? |
| [22:02:50] | fryfrog: | in the backend log? |
| [22:03:44] | fryfrog: | 2006-11–19 12:24:01.575 Using protocol version 31 there are literally 40 of those lines in my backend log file |
| [22:03:55] | fryfrog: | i pulled mythplugins and mythtv from svn like 2 hours ago, at the same time |
| [22:04:22] | daveyiv: | dmesg | tail says "lirc_i2c: no version for "lirc_unregister_plugin" found: kernel tainted." what does that mean? |
| [22:04:57] | mishehu: | daveyiv: basically just a warning |
| [22:05:00] | fryfrog: | mythbackend.php: define('MYTH_PROTO_VERSION', 31); |
| [22:05:04] | fryfrog: | and grep yields that |
| [22:05:24] | daveyiv: | mishehu: should it not say that it is bound to my card? |
| [22:05:54] | Anduin: | daveyiv: It should give you a chip found message |
| [22:05:56] | fryfrog: | http://fryfrog.com/error.html |
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| [22:05:58] | mishehu: | daveyiv: it's just a kernel warning from when the module is installed. there should be more info above or below it I *think* |
| [22:06:05] | fryfrog: | take a look at the error, in the html format i'm getting it in |
| [22:06:13] | geekzoid: | how do i register a bgu |
| [22:06:15] | geekzoid: | in ivtv:) |
| [22:06:19] | fryfrog: | it looks *nothing* like the "couldn't connect to backend" or protocol miss match errors i've seen |
| [22:06:20] | ** geekzoid likes svideo :0 ** | |
| [22:06:25] | daveyiv: | [ 2718.113653] lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, at major 61 |
| [22:06:25] | daveyiv: | [ 2718.114798] lirc_i2c: no version for "lirc_unregister_plugin" found: kernel tainted. |
| [22:06:25] | daveyiv: | --- this is all it says about the lirc |
| [22:06:31] | daveyiv: | oops, sorry |
| [22:06:48] | mishehu: | looks like it found something |
| [22:07:03] | Anduin: | daveyiv: pvr x50? |
| [22:07:14] | daveyiv: | no, its a hauppauge wintv 401 |
| [22:10:33] | geekzoid: | hi all |
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| [22:10:38] | geekzoid: | how do you reprot a bug in ivtv |
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| [22:12:08] | Anduin: | geekzoid: mail list is the best place to start |
| [22:13:23] | Anduin: | geekzoid: There is also: http://ivtvdriver.org/trac |
| [22:15:20] | geekzoid: | thank you |
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| [22:16:15] | savageone: | man |
| [22:16:17] | D-side: | i think maybe this shit works. :D |
| [22:16:27] | savageone: | what if your shutdown and reboot in the middle of a dvd being ripped, on mistake |
| [22:16:33] | savageone: | and then delete the half-ripped file |
| [22:16:37] | savageone: | and try to start over |
| [22:16:43] | savageone: | and it won't rip anymore |
| [22:16:49] | savageone: | hehe |
| [22:17:03] | savageone: | it'll do iso but now the friggin good one isn't working |
| [22:17:26] | savageone: | I switched it to divx before I started the last rip, but didn't exit out or reboot so I wonder if it's that change fucking it up because it went into effect |
| [22:20:03] | mirak: | how can I find the irq for a serial port ? |
| [22:20:08] | mirak: | I need that to configure lirc |
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| [22:26:51] | savageone: | what's up cesman |
| [22:27:03] | cesman: | oh, not much you? |
| [22:27:34] | mirak: | anyone knows how to find the serial port number and irq for a serial to usb converter ? |
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| [22:30:09] | savageone: | the bios menu might show it |
| [22:30:19] | savageone: | is it onboard? |
| [22:30:33] | mirak: | it's a usb to serial adapter |
| [22:30:41] | mirak: | the bios can't know it exist |
| [22:30:48] | mirak: | it's not onboard of course |
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| [22:55:03] | robbins876: | anyone here have gears of war on x360? |
| [22:55:43] | savageone: | not yet |
| [22:55:53] | savageone: | i heard it's pretty amazing tho |
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| [23:00:46] | savageone: | hey |
| [23:01:03] | savageone: | i got my frontend up but now I have to make it show the mythtv video directory from my backend |
| [23:01:05] | savageone: | with nfs |
| [23:01:10] | savageone: | what's the command to do that |
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| [23:05:20] | tracy: | how do i find what the xmlid from zap2it |
| [23:06:46] | EnterUserName: | does anyone here use SVIDEO/RCA with pvr150? |
| [23:08:36] | russK: | I use RCA with the PVR-USB2 |
| [23:09:07] | EnterUserName: | hrm. Im using RCA/SVideo with pvr150 and im having problems with crackily sound |
| [23:09:11] | EnterUserName: | wonder if its a bug with ivtv |
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| [23:09:18] | EnterUserName: | it happens like every 1 / 10 times |
| [23:09:26] | juski: | EnterUserName: try a newer version of ivtv, or different firmware |
| [23:09:28] | EnterUserName: | and on another box 54/5 times |
| [23:09:31] | juski: | I have the same issue |
| [23:09:55] | juski: | not especially concerned by it yet since I don't use my 150 much |
| [23:09:56] | EnterUserName: | Hrm. Im using the newest version of ivtv i think |
| [23:10:11] | EnterUserName: | oh i use the blaster..i guess ic ould use my adaptec |
| [23:10:34] | juski: | blech. that episode of torchwood was a bit grim. |
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| [23:10:57] | EnterUserName: | juski: hmm maybe i can upgrade the firmware |
| [23:11:07] | juski: | EnterUserName: maybe |
| [23:11:22] | EnterUserName: | i placed a bug to the devel list i think hrm sux 2 be me :) |
| [23:11:26] | EnterUserName: | does it do that on the PVR 350? |
| [23:11:37] | juski: | maybe. maybe not |
| [23:11:49] | EnterUserName: | Juski: what do you have a pvr 500? |
| [23:11:53] | juski: | pvr150 |
| [23:11:59] | EnterUserName: | and you rarely use it? |
| [23:12:03] | juski: | yup |
| [23:12:10] | juski: | mostly recording dvb-t |
| [23:12:19] | EnterUserName: | oh |
| [23:12:43] | ** EnterUserName is cruising to: White Zombie – More Human Than Human (Techno Remix) on "" [0:03/4:19] (192kbps) 44.1kHz) [5.92MiB mp3] ** | |
| [23:12:48] | EnterUserName: | way better than gangsta rap lol :) |
| [23:13:12] | juski: | noticed since I changed from gentoo, so it'd have to be firmware I think since the ivtv vers are the same |
| [23:13:30] | EnterUserName: | so an older firmware or newer one? |
| [23:13:52] | juski: | I gave livetv a good going over today to check it, but changing channel like 20 times didn't produce the nasty audio |
| [23:14:04] | juski: | EnterUserName: a _different_ firmware ;) |
| [23:14:12] | juski: | I dunno if it's newer or what |
| [23:14:17] | EnterUserName: | oh that helps :) Should i go newer or older :) |
| [23:14:27] | EnterUserName: | i put my friend back on the tuner cuz it doesnt cause that problem on the tuner |
| [23:14:42] | EnterUserName: | On my box it does it 1 every 100 times |
| [23:14:49] | juski: | knowing what I know about microcode, the firmware is more than likely tied in to the driver rev. |
| [23:15:07] | juski: | rather than 'one size fits all' but I could be wrong |
| [23:17:06] | juski: | gonna compare a newly downloaded firmware with the one I have installed |
| [23:18:02] | juski: | no difference |
| [23:18:54] | juski: | hrm |
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| [23:19:17] | juski: | what does the audio sampling freq. default to when ivtv first loads? |
| [23:19:37] | EnterUserName: | nto sure. |
| [23:19:55] | EnterUserName: | well i can try it on my friends box when he gets home... |
| [23:19:58] | EnterUserName: | and see if new firmware fixes it |
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| [23:23:47] | tracy: | could someone tell me what an xmltvid is, and how do i know what a particular challes number is, if it is blank in the database? |
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| [23:24:28] | Saviq: | xmltvid is the channel's id in the xmltv file You're feeding into the database |
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| [23:27:05] | juski: | you can sometimes find a list of xmltv ids in /usr/share/xmltv/$your_grabber/channelids |
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| [23:30:48] | EnterUserName: | hrm |
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| [23:34:12] | juski: | time for bed... |
| [23:36:07] | tracy: | now just wish i could figure out how to get mythfillmydatabase to leave a file |
| [23:36:18] | tracy: | so i cand find those xmltvid's |
| [23:38:02] | savageone: | man |
| [23:38:12] | savageone: | I just want to get my frontend to see my video files from my backend |
| [23:38:19] | savageone: | I even tried using samba |
| [23:38:34] | savageone: | smbmount //mythtv/myth/video /mythtv/video |
| [23:38:40] | savageone: | I make a /mythtv/video on my frontend here |
| [23:38:49] | savageone: | and it asks for password, which is usually a good sign |
| [23:38:55] | savageone: | but then it says the share is wrong |
| [23:38:56] | savageone: | but it's not |
| [23:39:10] | savageone: | I mean, I'm cutting and pasting and I must have verified it a million times |
| [23:39:14] | savageone: | any ideas? |
| [23:41:17] | GreyFoxx: | inyour samba config, whatis the name of the share you are mounting ? |
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| [23:43:22] | D-side: | damn its been years since i tried to compile anything under debian. |
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| [23:45:55] | savageone: | comptuer name, mythtv |
| [23:45:57] | savageone: | share name, myth |
| [23:46:03] | savageone: | in there there's a folder called video |
| [23:46:12] | savageone: | I wanted to mount that into my local /mythtv/video |
| [23:46:29] | tracy: | GreyFoxx: do u know how i figure out what is the xmltvid for a channel I have? as example, i have 9_2 WSOC-DT in mythtv and in zap2it i have 34 WSOCDT, so channel guide not updating |
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| [23:47:22] | tracy: | so i guess i need to figure out what the xmltvid is on zap2it and then mythfilldatabase will populate correctly? |
| [23:47:40] | savageone: | we need a youtube plugin |
| [23:48:59] | savageone: | in the rip/transcode section |
| [23:49:10] | savageone: | when I try to rip now it says no jobs and nothing else to do |
| [23:49:14] | savageone: | hit 0 to rip a dvd |
| [23:49:17] | savageone: | and it'll only let me rip to iso |
| [23:49:22] | savageone: | if I rip to iso, it doesn't play right |
| [23:49:23] | savageone: | wtf |
| [23:50:42] | savageone: | it happened after I was ripping a movie and rebooted on mistake in the middle of it |
| [23:50:45] | savageone: | I've since rebooted |
| [23:50:53] | savageone: | it's not set to divx, it's xvid so that's not it |
| [23:51:05] | savageone: | is there a mysql database that has the movie in there or something and is making it confused |
| [23:52:20] | savageone: | there's no file sitting there or anything |
| [23:52:30] | GreyFoxx: | [07:45pm]<savageone> share name, myth |
| [23:52:30] | GreyFoxx: | [07:46pm]<savageone> in there there's a folder called video |
| [23:52:34] | GreyFoxx: | That |
| [23:52:36] | GreyFoxx: | s your problem |
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| [23:52:45] | savageone: | i tried mounting to just myth anyway |
| [23:52:50] | GreyFoxx: | You can mount a share, not a subdirectory of a share |
| [23:52:56] | savageone: | it was letting me mount folders before I thought |
| [23:52:58] | savageone: | grey: |
| [23:53:03] | GreyFoxx: | so just make another share as "video" |
| [23:53:05] | savageone: | u able to help me with this ripping issue |
| [23:53:13] | savageone: | I'm going fucking nuts |
| [23:54:06] | GreyFoxx: | I don't really rip stuff, I think I've used it 3 times since it wsadded to myth and that was just to test stuff |
| [23:54:25] | GreyFoxx: | Maybe mtd isn't running ? |
| [23:54:30] | savageone: | naw man |
| [23:54:32] | savageone: | check this out |
| [23:54:40] | savageone: | I renamed the file name to rip to and it let it rip |
| [23:54:56] | savageone: | so that leads me to believe there was a remnant for this in the mysql database under the files name |
| [23:55:12] | GreyFoxx: | there likely is, but I don't know offhand what table |
| [23:55:15] | savageone: | because it started messing up when I rebooted in the middle of ripping |
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| [23:55:19] | JPAULEY: | How do I give my mthtv user access to run applications in X started by another user? |
| [23:56:28] | savageone: | it's ripping now |
| [23:56:32] | savageone: | so let's see how this goes |
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| [23:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | JPAULEY: Do you mean have the other user startand app and it appears on the myth users X session? OR have the myth user start oit and it runs as ifit was the other user ? |
| [23:58:03] | ** GreyFoxx seriously ponder unsubscribing from the mythtv-users list ** | |
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