Monday, November 13th, 2006, 00:00 UTC | ||
[00:00:04] | kormoc: | none? |
[00:00:14] | kormoc: | why would linux 'answer' to vista? |
[00:01:06] | defaultro: | oh |
[00:01:23] | D-side: | this is linux's answer to vista: |
[00:01:26] | defaultro: | i mean, heard that it has nice features |
[00:01:31] | ** D-side holds up a finger ** | |
[00:01:33] | defaultro: | but crappy |
[00:01:40] | defaultro: | :) heheh |
[00:02:08] | dp: | does anyone know anything about implamenting a new codec for use in mythTV? |
[00:02:20] | GreyFoxx: | What are you looking to add ? |
[00:02:35] | dp: | loseless compression, specifcally Lagarith |
[00:02:53] | defaultro: | for video? |
[00:02:58] | dp: | of course |
[00:03:26] | dp: | i know the file size would be massive |
[00:03:48] | tracy: | vegbox4: i bought an ati HDTV tunner card for $50. big pain in the ass. rather go for a card well supported |
[00:03:57] | defaultro: | what is the advantage of that codec? |
[00:04:12] | tracy: | it only does OTA and not qam-256 |
[00:04:20] | kormoc: | defaultro, but in all honestly, for linux to be able to 'answer' to vista, linux would have to be a something solid with a single goal in mind, like a company, or what not, linux is just a collection of people doing what they want, and it works out well for the most part, so really, there is no single person who can say, linux, go forth and be pretty! or what not. |
[00:04:20] | vegbox4: | bah vista is lame |
[00:04:22] | dp: | the name says it all "lossless", secondly Lagarith is based on arithmatic compression |
[00:04:24] | vegbox4: | all dazzle |
[00:04:42] | vegbox4: | id rather go linux or if anything mac |
[00:04:42] | defaultro: | higher than quality of hdtv i suppose? |
[00:04:43] | vegbox4: | lol |
[00:04:55] | defaultro: | vegbox, buy a Fusion HDTV lite card |
[00:05:01] | defaultro: | It does QAM256 and OTA |
[00:05:02] | D-side: | i went mac two weeks ago. haven't looked back. :D |
[00:05:06] | vegbox4: | whats QAM? |
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[00:05:12] | defaultro: | cool D-side |
[00:05:16] | defaultro: | cable |
[00:05:20] | vegbox4: | ahhh |
[00:05:24] | dp: | well, not necassarily. I'm not looking to use this codec for TV purposes |
[00:05:26] | vegbox4: | i have a PVR150 |
[00:05:34] | vegbox4: | that would replace the PVR150? |
[00:05:38] | defaultro: | no |
[00:05:39] | GreyFoxx: | vegbox4: The modultion schemem used for digital cable transmision |
[00:05:42] | defaultro: | you can add it |
[00:05:48] | tracy: | although my ati card works very well in vista, but no go on mythtv |
[00:05:48] | vegbox4: | ohh hmmm |
[00:05:50] | defaultro: | keep adding tuner cards |
[00:05:57] | vegbox4: | im trying to minimize the overall money i will be spending lol |
[00:06:06] | defaultro: | i have an Air2PC, Fusion, Firewire |
[00:06:14] | defaultro: | go with Fusion |
[00:06:20] | vegbox4: | i think the cheapest solution is to add a new pci hdtv card |
[00:06:21] | defaultro: | then get a basic Comcast |
[00:06:26] | defaultro: | yes |
[00:06:28] | vegbox4: | i have basic charter now |
[00:06:33] | kormoc: | tracy, talk with ATI, if they would release drivers or hardware specs, it likely would get supported |
[00:06:35] | GreyFoxx: | defaultro: When you scanned for QAM channels in with your fusion, did you have to enter a starting frequency ? |
[00:06:37] | vegbox4: | pay 100 bucks a month already for that |
[00:06:38] | defaultro: | even with comcast basic, you'll get HDTV |
[00:06:45] | vegbox4: | REALLY? |
[00:06:46] | vegbox4: | wtf? |
[00:06:48] | vegbox4: | how do you know? |
[00:06:51] | defaultro: | Greyfox, I didn't recall any |
[00:07:04] | D-side: | cablevision here gives you a bunch of HD channels free also. |
[00:07:34] | defaultro: | vegbox, well, I just don't know why Comcast is sending it for free. I think, LOCAL is always free because it's broadcast |
[00:07:41] | vegbox4: | ahh |
[00:07:45] | vegbox4: | do you think charter does the same? |
[00:07:46] | defaultro: | im only talking about local hd broadcast |
[00:07:52] | defaultro: | i don't know |
[00:07:58] | defaultro: | call then |
[00:08:00] | defaultro: | them |
[00:08:07] | defaultro: | ask them, what do i need to watch local hd |
[00:08:17] | vegbox4: | like NBC |
[00:08:18] | vegbox4: | right? |
[00:08:24] | defaultro: | if they tell you, subscribe to local package, then tell them F U |
[00:08:29] | defaultro: | hahaha |
[00:08:38] | defaultro: | but if they tell you, rent a box, then BAM |
[00:09:05] | defaultro: | that means. I didn't rent a box |
[00:09:17] | defaultro: | because i know that even with basic, we'll get it |
[00:09:50] | vegbox4: | bastards |
[00:09:51] | defaultro: | so open your web browser, go to newegg or cyberestore and buy Fusion HDTV card |
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[00:09:58] | vegbox4: | some website says you need a decoder to get the signal |
[00:10:03] | defaultro: | or other stores that sells it |
[00:10:19] | GreyFoxx: | I wonder if the fusion rt is supported as well. |
[00:10:24] | defaultro: | yeah |
[00:10:39] | defaultro: | my neighbor bought it 2 months ago and it is working very well |
[00:10:51] | GreyFoxx: | oh? Cool. He can record 2 at once ? |
[00:10:52] | defaultro: | he got inspired with my linux based pvr |
[00:10:57] | GreyFoxx: | Does it look like 2 seperate dvb devices ? |
[00:11:06] | defaultro: | he only has 1 fusion |
[00:11:18] | defaultro: | bought it 2 not bought 2 :D |
[00:11:29] | GreyFoxx: | I thought I read the rt was a "dual" tuner which is why I'm curious |
[00:11:39] | defaultro: | mine is dual also |
[00:11:45] | defaultro: | but digital always win |
[00:11:52] | Todd: | Hey guys.. Im trying to (re)setup my myth box on FC6 w/ a PVR500.. can't get ivtv to work. yum says it installs fine but I get a "FATAL: Error inserting ivtv" when I try /sbin/modprobe ivtv. any ideas? |
[00:11:53] | Joffray: | so can you record two things at once? |
[00:11:54] | GreyFoxx: | I mean dual HD, not just analog + hdtv :) |
[00:11:56] | vegbox4: | rending a box is the same as a decoder? |
[00:11:58] | defaultro: | oh |
[00:12:00] | vegbox4: | does the fusion decode? |
[00:12:06] | defaultro: | i should get that card then |
[00:12:10] | GreyFoxx: | vegbox4: no |
[00:12:14] | defaultro: | my eyes are like $ $ now |
[00:12:16] | defaultro: | hehhee |
[00:12:18] | GreyFoxx: | your frontend does that |
[00:12:28] | vegbox4: | so charter does send out hdtv signals for free |
[00:12:35] | defaultro: | there you go |
[00:12:46] | vegbox4: | so what do i need to buy |
[00:13:01] | Joffray: | an HDTV card that supports QAM |
[00:13:06] | defaultro: | Value meal #3 |
[00:13:25] | defaultro: | cmon veg, we've been talking to you many times |
[00:13:40] | defaultro: | honestly, FUsion is very unstable |
[00:13:46] | defaultro: | it is very expensive |
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[00:13:54] | defaultro: | it's not compatible with MythtV |
[00:14:00] | defaultro: | hahhahahaa |
[00:14:00] | vegbox4: | well all i heard was fusion hehe |
[00:14:04] | vegbox4: | any other brands? |
[00:14:09] | Joffray: | none of the fusion cards? |
[00:14:18] | GreyFoxx: | defaultro: I've seen lots of happy fusion users. What exactly is wrong with it ? |
[00:14:33] | GreyFoxx: | I see it for sale for $85US, not what I consider expensive |
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[00:14:54] | vegbox4: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814145092 |
[00:14:58] | SlicerDicer-: | wow thats a first |
[00:15:00] | vegbox4: | hey this card good for DVI out? |
[00:15:02] | defaultro: | GreyFoxx, i was being sarcastic to veg |
[00:15:07] | GreyFoxx: | ahhh ok |
[00:15:08] | SlicerDicer-: | xchat just died like a bastard |
[00:15:14] | defaultro: | because, Ive been telling him to get Fusion |
[00:15:15] | defaultro: | :D |
[00:15:46] | Joffray: | vegbox4: I'd get an nvidia card of some sort |
[00:15:54] | Joffray: | one with an nvidia chipset |
[00:16:02] | Joffray: | instead of some unknown company |
[00:16:16] | vegbox4: | ohh |
[00:16:38] | defaultro: | veg, here is my setup -> http://restricted.dyndns.org/capturecards.jpg |
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[00:17:02] | vegbox4: | is fusion a brand or a chipset? |
[00:17:04] | defaultro: | here is another one, http://restricted.dyndns.org/capturecards_outside.jpg |
[00:17:10] | defaultro: | DVICO is the brand |
[00:17:13] | defaultro: | it's a model |
[00:17:25] | vegbox4: | damn |
[00:17:30] | vegbox4: | how does that air2pc work |
[00:17:32] | vegbox4: | with pansat? |
[00:17:42] | defaultro: | pansat? |
[00:17:48] | D-side: | meh the more i think about it the more i want a damn hd box from my cable co and firewire that bitch out. |
[00:17:51] | Joffray: | air2pc is not a satellite card |
[00:18:24] | vegbox4: | ohh |
[00:18:56] | Joffray: | you want the skystar2 for DVB-S |
[00:19:04] | Joffray: | that's what I have |
[00:19:05] | Joffray: | works great |
[00:19:11] | vegbox4: | legit? |
[00:19:22] | Joffray: | what do you mean? |
[00:19:26] | defaultro: | Joffray, I would like to know more about DVB. What do you get? |
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[00:19:34] | vegbox4: | opps nm hehe |
[00:19:36] | Joffray: | I get satellite |
[00:19:38] | defaultro: | what country are you at? I think Europe |
[00:19:42] | Joffray: | I'm in the US |
[00:19:47] | defaultro: | hmmm |
[00:19:50] | Joffray: | in the rocky mountains somewhere |
[00:19:52] | Joffray: | :) |
[00:19:55] | defaultro: | tell me about the physical connections |
[00:20:04] | Joffray: | well I have about 5 satellite dishes in the backyard |
[00:20:08] | defaultro: | oh |
[00:20:17] | Joffray: | connected to a bunch of diseqc switches and devices |
[00:20:21] | defaultro: | then coax cable to that card? |
[00:20:24] | Joffray: | and they go into my DVB-S card |
[00:20:29] | vegbox4: | really |
[00:20:35] | vegbox4: | dang Joffray, how many channels do you get? |
[00:20:36] | Joffray: | no, I'm making this up |
[00:20:38] | Joffray: | yes really |
[00:20:40] | vegbox4: | haha |
[00:20:48] | vegbox4: | where is a good place to buy fusion cards? |
[00:20:54] | Joffray: | I get a few channels :) |
[00:21:00] | defaultro: | so Joffray, what channels are you able to record? |
[00:21:06] | defaultro: | who is the Sat provider? |
[00:21:16] | Joffray: | none, just free to air stuff |
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[00:21:47] | defaultro: | are you using c-band satellite? |
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[00:21:55] | Joffray: | not currently, all Ku stuff |
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[00:22:08] | defaultro: | k |
[00:22:17] | Joffray: | fucking tree in the apartment building behind my house is blocking good C-band reception |
[00:22:44] | vegbox4: | should i get the fusionhdtv with its own remote? |
[00:22:50] | vegbox4: | i have a pvr150 with remote already |
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[00:23:24] | Joffray: | I used to have a c-band dish up at my old house |
[00:23:28] | defaultro: | k |
[00:23:31] | Joffray: | k |
[00:24:14] | defaultro: | i'm thinking about c-band but don't know if it's worth it |
[00:24:24] | defaultro: | initial cost is too expensive |
[00:24:28] | Joffray: | really? |
[00:24:34] | Joffray: | cost me about $150 |
[00:24:37] | Joffray: | dish $100 |
[00:24:38] | defaultro: | about $3k |
[00:24:42] | Joffray: | concret about $50 |
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[00:24:50] | Joffray: | that included everything |
[00:24:54] | Joffray: | receivers, cable, lnbs |
[00:24:56] | defaultro: | why are the guys selling me for 3000 |
[00:25:04] | Joffray: | because you're buying new stuff |
[00:25:08] | defaultro: | it's an 8 ft dish |
[00:25:12] | Joffray: | I have a 10ft |
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[00:25:16] | defaultro: | wow |
[00:25:30] | kormoc: | there's a 2.5k id-10-t fee ;) |
[00:25:40] | defaultro: | were you happy with c-band? |
[00:25:45] | Joffray: | well |
[00:25:50] | Joffray: | I didn't have any subscription service |
[00:25:53] | Joffray: | just various feeds |
[00:25:55] | defaultro: | k |
[00:25:57] | Joffray: | it was fun |
[00:26:04] | defaultro: | in what way? |
[00:26:12] | Joffray: | just seeing all these weird feeds |
[00:26:17] | defaultro: | were there free pr0n? |
[00:26:24] | Joffray: | mmm..... yea |
[00:26:26] | Joffray: | 1 channel |
[00:26:29] | defaultro: | oh cool |
[00:26:35] | kormoc: | tho, you do have internet.... |
[00:26:41] | defaultro: | :D |
[00:26:42] | Joffray: | yea |
[00:26:53] | defaultro: | i can't find a pr0n free stream |
[00:27:03] | Joffray: | www.puretna.com |
[00:27:03] | defaultro: | that i can use with mythstream |
[00:27:04] | Joffray: | :) |
[00:27:06] | defaultro: | ok |
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[00:27:27] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
[00:27:34] | vegbox4: | defaultro, should i get a fusion card with remote or with out? |
[00:27:37] | defaultro: | i had a list of 1080p links and assigned it to mythstream. It was able to play the first 3 seconds but it closed it |
[00:27:42] | kormoc: | puretna is so well known, it's surprising it's still around |
[00:27:50] | defaultro: | vegbox, I don;t know. I built my own remote |
[00:27:55] | vegbox4: | ohh |
[00:28:00] | vegbox4: | i have my remote from the pvr150 |
[00:28:19] | defaultro: | i dont know if you can use that remote for fusion |
[00:28:37] | defaultro: | well, i am able to use my mitsubishi hdtv remote to control myth via lirc |
[00:28:42] | defaultro: | that should work then |
[00:28:53] | mait: | I just apt-got version 0.20–0.4, and cannot configure it to use my tv cards... |
[00:29:13] | defaultro: | so looks like i may have to tweak the configuration so that mythstream will just keep on downloading the streams |
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[00:29:26] | defaultro: | i'll go to that site tonight |
[00:29:34] | defaultro: | are there many pop ups? |
[00:29:36] | Joffray: | it's just a torrent site |
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[00:29:59] | defaultro: | so how do you play it with myth? |
[00:30:07] | Joffray: | I don't |
[00:30:07] | vegbox4: | dang |
[00:30:13] | kormoc: | same as any other video/image |
[00:30:15] | vegbox4: | i cant wait |
[00:30:22] | vegbox4: | im gonna get the lcd hdtv soon |
[00:30:58] | defaultro: | if you're going to get lcd hdtv, then I think you can also purchase a nice Nvidia Card :D |
[00:31:09] | vegbox4: | i will |
[00:31:10] | vegbox4: | lol |
[00:31:10] | defaultro: | k kormoc |
[00:31:13] | vegbox4: | im a student man |
[00:31:19] | mait: | my mythfrontend doesn't show anything but the watch TV icon... |
[00:31:20] | defaultro: | understood |
[00:31:21] | vegbox4: | low budget.... extremely low budget |
[00:31:35] | mait: | and I can't because nothing is set up... |
[00:31:38] | defaultro: | veg, do it slowly |
[00:31:42] | vegbox4: | the only reason why i have a mythtv box is cause the nice people over at san manuel hooked me up |
[00:31:43] | vegbox4: | lol |
[00:31:49] | vegbox4: | san manuel = indian casino |
[00:31:56] | Joffray: | mait: you have to run mythtv-setup |
[00:31:57] | defaultro: | fusion is like $90–100, nvidia is like $150-$230 |
[00:32:02] | vegbox4: | dang |
[00:32:15] | vegbox4: | well i got an nvidia card recently for 40 bucks and it has a dvi out |
[00:32:15] | kormoc: | $150-$230? |
[00:32:17] | Joffray: | $150? |
[00:32:21] | kormoc: | for what? a 7800? |
[00:32:21] | Joffray: | mine was $40 |
[00:32:23] | mait: | yes, I ran mythtv-setup – but saw nothing about seting up cards... |
[00:32:33] | kormoc: | yeah, mine was $40ish too |
[00:32:34] | Joffray: | are you serious mait? |
[00:32:37] | kormoc: | for a 6200 |
[00:32:42] | Joffray: | capture cards |
[00:32:42] | defaultro: | i bought my 6600 GT for $190 |
[00:32:45] | Joffray: | you have to add your card |
[00:32:57] | kormoc: | defaultro, way back when, they're under $80 anymore |
[00:33:04] | defaultro: | oh |
[00:33:14] | kormoc: | videocards drop price faster then cars do |
[00:33:25] | mait: | yes, mythtv-setup only shows a wrench icon, and shows the things mentioned at http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/User_Manual: . . . tion_Backend |
[00:33:26] | defaultro: | if I waited, I have missed a lot of HDTV shows |
[00:33:52] | Joffray: | I gotta go do homework |
[00:33:54] | Joffray: | good luck |
[00:34:00] | mait: | where's the 'Add Input' setup? |
[00:34:06] | defaultro: | veg, i'm saving money now to buy a 8" CRT projector |
[00:34:13] | Joffray: | 8 inch? |
[00:34:14] | Joffray: | wow |
[00:34:16] | defaultro: | yep |
[00:34:20] | Joffray: | that's cool |
[00:34:27] | defaultro: | if money can, i'll go with 9" |
[00:34:38] | defaultro: | but some few folks at avsforum can do 1080p with their 8" |
[00:34:55] | defaultro: | like the Marquee 8500 |
[00:35:04] | defaultro: | that's what am planning to buy |
[00:35:57] | dtm: | defaultro: 8" of what? 8" long? |
[00:36:27] | defaultro: | nope |
[00:36:41] | defaultro: | i think, when they say 8", it's for the tube size |
[00:36:53] | defaultro: | CRT's are 3 gun tube |
[00:37:02] | defaultro: | the old projectors |
[00:37:12] | kormoc: | uhh |
[00:37:24] | kormoc: | CRT's and projectors tend to mean two different things... |
[00:37:25] | defaultro: | but I have seen a setup and was shocked when I saw Discovery |
[00:37:31] | defaultro: | CRT projector |
[00:37:45] | defaultro: | http://www.curtpalme.com/ |
[00:37:55] | kormoc: | usually the 8" means focus length, not tube size |
[00:38:00] | defaultro: | oh, thanks |
[00:38:03] | kormoc: | a 8" tube would be ungodly huge :P |
[00:38:20] | defaultro: | yeah, i was measuring it with my hand, I told myself, I think i;m wrong |
[00:38:21] | defaultro: | hahahaha |
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[00:38:36] | defaultro: | so it's the focus then |
[00:38:36] | defaultro: | cool |
[00:38:54] | defaultro: | so yeah, i saw a setup and he showed to me Discovery HD and inHD, oh my god |
[00:39:13] | defaultro: | it's totally different from digital projectors |
[00:39:21] | kormoc: | ooh? |
[00:39:25] | defaultro: | yeah |
[00:39:30] | kormoc: | digital projectors tend to be really really good quality |
[00:39:32] | kormoc: | just a bit... costly |
[00:39:50] | defaultro: | yes, the 20k according to the folks are getting closer to the CRT quality |
[00:40:04] | defaultro: | but is still behind the best black of CRT pjs |
[00:40:21] | defaultro: | they said, 2 or 3 more years, they might retire their CRT pjs |
[00:40:30] | kormoc: | hrm, for the price point, perhaps |
[00:40:36] | defaultro: | yep |
[00:41:02] | defaultro: | actually, I opened my hdtv the other day and found out that mine is also 3 gun tube |
[00:41:06] | kormoc: | I still perfer digital, much sharper and better imho |
[00:41:11] | defaultro: | ok |
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[00:41:41] | defaultro: | crt pj is usually for controlled light room |
[00:41:50] | defaultro: | and film like |
[00:42:17] | defaultro: | my friend has an infocus and it suffers from screen door effect |
[00:42:36] | defaultro: | and sometimes rainbox especially with fast moving objects |
[00:42:49] | GreyFoxx: | A buddy of mine has a sp4805 and you can only see the screendoor effect if you are right up against the wall |
[00:43:03] | defaultro: | that's not bad at all |
[00:43:30] | GreyFoxx: | stand 2 feet back and you can't see it |
[00:43:37] | defaultro: | so sometimes, i can't really decide which to buy |
[00:44:00] | vegbox4: | any good places to buy that fusion card? |
[00:44:01] | GreyFoxx: | My friend is looking to upgrade his soon so I might pick up his old one. More than sufficient for me :) |
[00:44:13] | defaultro: | one thing also is that, when a part gets destroyed in a digital projector, it's like whole box replacement |
[00:44:46] | defaultro: | this is where i bought it, http://www.cyberestore.com/ |
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[00:46:08] | defaultro: | FREAK, my son change the channel in DCT6200, I lost the recording. LOL |
[00:46:15] | defaultro: | s/change/changed/ |
[00:46:58] | ** GreyFoxx ponders going to aMovie ** | |
[00:47:43] | mchou: | lol |
[00:48:04] | mchou: | who actually attends movies these days? :) |
[00:48:46] | defaultro: | GreyFoxx, glad you mentioned movies. Was there any plugin written for myth that will allow us to display shows for a given zipcode? |
[00:48:50] | mchou: | it better be good for me to deal with all the unruly crowds :) |
[00:51:43] | mchou: | so this new ups I got has a led load meter on it..... |
[00:52:09] | mchou: | the power load goes up 2x when games are played |
[00:52:42] | mchou: | I found that rather interesting.... |
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[00:54:20] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou: who knows |
[00:54:24] | SlicerDicer-: | I am waiting for Borat DVD |
[00:54:34] | mchou: | the STB when plugged in doesnt even register a load..... |
[00:54:58] | SlicerDicer-: | I would prefer to be able to shit in a clean toilet and watch the movie without shaniqua behind me saying "that bitch is crasy" |
[00:55:20] | mchou: | I'm wonderng how much power a tivo draws (compared to a "normal" computer) |
[00:55:30] | SlicerDicer-: | dunno |
[00:56:47] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: shit. I went to see "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" and two teenagers behind me was parrotting all lines like it was the "Rocky Horror Picture Show" |
[00:57:08] | mchou: | I felt like standing up and bitchslapping them |
[00:57:11] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
[00:57:27] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou: who would pay 19$ a month for tivo |
[00:57:40] | mchou: | that took lots of self control, believe me :) |
[00:57:48] | SlicerDicer-: | shit the power consumption of Myth cant even come close to offset that |
[00:58:18] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: dude, it aint always about the money :) |
[00:58:24] | SlicerDicer-: | sure it is |
[00:58:34] | SlicerDicer-: | show me the money show me the money! |
[00:58:50] | mchou: | nope. This one is about greenhouse gases |
[00:58:53] | mchou: | :) |
[00:59:25] | SlicerDicer-: | bah |
[00:59:34] | SlicerDicer-: | I drive a V8 give me all the carbon I can take |
[00:59:39] | SlicerDicer-: | I am a carbon unit myself |
[00:59:47] | ** SlicerDicer- dances around the carbon dance ** | |
[00:59:47] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
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[01:01:13] | tracy: | how easy is it to get a 2nd mythtv box to nuvexport a program recorded on the first one? |
[01:01:36] | mchou: | so the local supermarket now has 4 compact fluorescent light bulbs for $1. |
[01:01:39] | mchou: | incredible |
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[01:02:34] | mchou: | so I went crazy and said "what the heck," changed out all my incadescents. |
[01:02:45] | mchou: | even in the bathroom |
[01:03:21] | mchou: | where CFLs arent really that reliable due to on/off cycles..... |
[01:03:32] | SlicerDicer-: | what? |
[01:03:35] | SlicerDicer-: | what grocery store? |
[01:03:39] | SlicerDicer-: | thats insane mchou |
[01:03:47] | SlicerDicer-: | I have to pay 12$ for 8 |
[01:04:04] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: nah, it's not insane. Subsidized by local utility co |
[01:04:12] | SlicerDicer-: | ahh |
[01:04:36] | mchou: | $12 fo 8 aint too shabby either |
[01:05:04] | mchou: | if you can get the ones better than "soft white" |
[01:05:20] | mchou: | the "full spectrum" ones |
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[01:05:40] | AndyCap: | is there any way to play back recorded live tv? |
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[01:06:19] | DeathDealer: | question kdoes anyone have charter here |
[01:06:34] | ibeu: | while trying to play mp3 with mythbrowser 0.20 on ubuntu edgy the following error appear: Decoder error. DecoderMAD: Failed to open input. Error 5. |
[01:06:36] | DeathDealer: | can you cannot mythtv to the chater box |
[01:06:37] | ibeu: | any tips? |
[01:06:52] | mchou: | DeathDealer: huh?? |
[01:07:25] | mchou: | DeathDealer: I dont have charter, but what modl is the charter box? |
[01:07:31] | mchou: | model* |
[01:10:51] | DeathDealer: | the motorola dvr |
[01:11:07] | mchou: | DeathDealer: simple. Firewire |
[01:11:15] | DeathDealer: | sorry I meant can you connect mythtv to the charter dvr |
[01:11:40] | DeathDealer: | is the firewire activated though |
[01:11:47] | DeathDealer: | the port |
[01:11:53] | mchou: | DeathDealer: and if you connect myth to it, stop usinging the motorola box as DVR :) |
[01:12:02] | mchou: | suding* |
[01:12:13] | mchou: | DeathDealer: it's supposed to be by law |
[01:12:18] | DeathDealer: | should I just get a regular box then |
[01:12:26] | DeathDealer: | regular digital box |
[01:12:54] | mchou: | DeathDealer: depends how much of a premium Charter charges for DVR :) |
[01:13:04] | DeathDealer: | 15 dollars a month |
[01:13:17] | DeathDealer: | free indemand on the movie channels |
[01:13:24] | mchou: | over the "regular" STB? |
[01:13:33] | DeathDealer: | yeah |
[01:13:52] | DeathDealer: | with internet I only pay about 90 dollars |
[01:13:57] | mchou: | DeathDealer: how much are the free indemand movies worth to you? :) |
[01:14:13] | mchou: | DeathDealer: lol. $90 is a rip :) |
[01:14:26] | DeathDealer: | well thats why I want to set up a vod server |
[01:14:46] | DeathDealer: | and then stream it wireless if I can |
[01:14:55] | DeathDealer: | set up a gig switch |
[01:15:02] | mchou: | DeathDealer: I pay about $40, no premiums. but OTA HDs and inet |
[01:15:12] | DeathDealer: | nice |
[01:15:18] | DeathDealer: | charter is expensive |
[01:15:39] | DeathDealer: | so how do you set up a vod server with myth |
[01:15:57] | mchou: | DeathDealer: anyways, firewire is the way to go w/ both boxes |
[01:16:23] | mchou: | you make your choice based on how much it's worth :) |
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[01:30:53] | mrdch: | Does mythtv upscale DVDs to HD, or is that normally done by a video card/HDTV capture card? how can it be set up? (I searched the wiki) |
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[01:34:12] | DeathDealer: | whats a good vod server |
[01:34:26] | DeathDealer: | that is compatible with mythtv |
[01:36:43] | jams: | one could argue mythtv is a vod server |
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[01:40:17] | a1fa: | fuck |
[01:40:21] | a1fa: | i had a random shutdown again |
[01:40:29] | a1fa: | its getting more frequent now |
[01:40:51] | jams: | a1fa- heat related? |
[01:41:11] | a1fa: | its cold in here, and all fans are blowing cold air |
[01:41:39] | a1fa: | nothing in logs, as usual |
[01:41:42] | mrdch: | guess i should have checked the mailing list http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . ling;#171210 |
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[01:44:46] | a1fa: | Temp.= 27.0, 255.0, 25.0; Rot.= 3308, 0, 9121 |
[01:44:47] | a1fa: | Vcore = 1.39, 2.56; Volt. = 3.28, 4.14, 11.80, -6.56, -2.65 |
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[01:46:20] | a1fa: | this is crazy |
[01:46:47] | vegbox4: | is there a way to clea |
[01:46:47] | a1fa: | i just ran mbmon |
[01:46:48] | vegbox4: | r |
[01:46:54] | vegbox4: | all previously recorded shows? |
[01:47:02] | a1fa: | and my motherboard started squealing like alittle bitch |
[01:47:05] | a1fa: | until i rebooted it |
[01:48:46] | DeathDealer: | I can't wait to build my box when looking at mythtv when it was first launched |
[01:49:42] | a1fa: | what? |
[01:50:38] | DeathDealer: | sorry been looking at mythtv ever since it launched |
[01:50:51] | a1fa: | ah |
[01:51:00] | a1fa: | mythtv has gone a long way from its first version |
[01:51:09] | DeathDealer: | trying to figure out how I can hook all my tv's up to it |
[01:51:33] | DeathDealer: | without a alot of cords everywhere |
[01:51:39] | DeathDealer: | so every tv has it |
[01:51:44] | DeathDealer: | any ideas |
[01:52:06] | DeathDealer: | 2 upstairs 2 downstairs |
[01:52:14] | a1fa: | yeah |
[01:52:19] | a1fa: | get a frontend for each tv |
[01:52:37] | a1fa: | problem solved |
[01:52:38] | DeathDealer: | thats alot of dough |
[01:52:41] | DeathDealer: | lol |
[01:52:45] | Honk^away: | gah, mythmusic is unstable :] |
[01:52:59] | a1fa: | technically, you can use 1 frontend for two tvs |
[01:53:14] | DeathDealer: | have to have two cards though right |
[01:53:15] | a1fa: | you would need two grafic cards |
[01:53:19] | a1fa: | and two remote controls |
[01:53:27] | DeathDealer: | two tv cards too right |
[01:54:13] | a1fa: | no |
[01:54:16] | a1fa: | one is enough |
[01:54:30] | a1fa: | PVR-500 with 2 tv tuners |
[01:54:37] | a1fa: | but, thats a stupid setup |
[01:54:54] | a1fa: | the best way for you would be to build a beefy backend |
[01:54:59] | DeathDealer: | what would be an ideal setup |
[01:55:02] | a1fa: | with 3xPVR-500 |
[01:55:09] | a1fa: | that would give you 6 inputs |
[01:55:23] | a1fa: | and have as many frontends as you need |
[01:55:32] | DeathDealer: | then have cords going to all boxes then |
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[01:55:41] | DeathDealer: | anyway to make them wireless |
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[01:56:03] | a1fa: | make what wireless |
[01:56:08] | DeathDealer: | the boxes |
[01:57:30] | DeathDealer: | or is that not possible |
[01:58:02] | a1fa: | wireless cards |
[01:58:04] | a1fa: | yeah |
[01:58:05] | a1fa: | for frontend |
[01:58:14] | a1fa: | you only need a few mbits to watch tv |
[01:58:43] | DeathDealer: | so I could get a good backend box with 3 cards and the fronts could be wireless |
[01:58:47] | DeathDealer: | and that should work then |
[01:59:27] | a1fa: | its like puling fucking teeth in #kernel |
[01:59:32] | a1fa: | sure |
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[02:00:14] | vegbox4: | lol |
[02:00:17] | vegbox4: | pulling teeth anywhere |
[02:00:35] | a1fa: | i know |
[02:00:37] | a1fa: | god damn it |
[02:01:05] | a1fa: | Nov 12 09:50:43 mytivo kernel: NVRM: not using NVAGP, an AGPGART backend is loaded! |
[02:01:05] | a1fa: | Nov 12 19:32:33 mytivo kernel: klogd 1.4.1#18, log source = /proc/kmsg started. |
[02:01:07] | a1fa: | check it out |
[02:01:14] | a1fa: | my box shut itself off in between these two times |
[02:01:25] | a1fa: | no errors what-so-ever |
[02:03:10] | vegbox4: | hmmm |
[02:03:15] | vegbox4: | you install nvidia kernel? |
[02:03:32] | a1fa: | nvidia driver |
[02:03:54] | vegbox4: | hmmm |
[02:04:00] | vegbox4: | pastebin your xorg conf |
[02:04:10] | a1fa: | why? |
[02:04:17] | a1fa: | xorg is not fucking up |
[02:04:41] | vegbox4: | well in xorg you can set to use NVAGP or AGPGART |
[02:05:35] | a1fa: | k |
[02:05:41] | kormoc: | a1fa, what's wrong with that? |
[02:05:57] | a1fa: | with what?. |
[02:06:09] | kormoc: | a1fa, it's not an error, it's just telling you that your kernel is built with agpgart, and thus, nvidia can't load it's own driver |
[02:06:19] | a1fa: | like I said |
[02:06:20] | kormoc: | <a1fa> Nov 12 09:50:43 mytivo kernel: NVRM: not using NVAGP, an AGPGART backend is loaded! |
[02:06:23] | a1fa: | KERNEL DID NOT REPORT ANY ERRORS |
[02:06:35] | a1fa: | between the time 9:50 and 19:32 when i started the box up again |
[02:06:37] | kormoc: | right, so I'm wondering what's going wrong |
[02:06:40] | a1fa: | it shuts off without warning |
[02:07:01] | nuonguy: | Is there a reason why esd should hold the cdrom device open? |
[02:07:23] | nuonguy: | I ask because grip keeps crashing with 'Error trying to open /dev/hda exclusively (Device or resource busy).' |
[02:07:30] | kormoc: | a1fa, so the machine powers down on it's own? without any log messages at all? |
[02:07:45] | nuonguy: | fuser says that esd has /dev/hda open |
[02:07:54] | a1fa: | http://pastebin.ca/247137 |
[02:07:55] | a1fa: | yes |
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[02:08:42] | kormoc: | a1fa, last time I had that issue, it was a power supply, is the machine on a UPS? |
[02:08:53] | nuonguy: | a1fa: related to your xorg.conf? |
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[02:09:35] | nuonguy: | kormoc: Do you know what the relationship is between esd and mythfrontend or mythbackend? |
[02:09:36] | a1fa: | kormoc: no |
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[02:09:50] | kormoc: | a1fa, are you sure the power itself wasn't lost then? |
[02:10:04] | a1fa: | kormoc: no sir.. clocks all show the right time |
[02:10:13] | a1fa: | for some reason, the computer powers off |
[02:10:17] | a1fa: | no warning, nothing |
[02:10:25] | nuonguy: | a1fa: what's that got to do with the time? |
[02:10:30] | kormoc: | nuonguy, none at all usually, ESD is a sound daemond and can be used with myth, but myth is just a standard sound output |
[02:10:41] | a1fa: | my digital clock is on the same |
[02:10:52] | a1fa: | breaker |
[02:10:53] | frankrizzo1985: | How do i find out what version of 0.20 I am on? |
[02:10:55] | kormoc: | a1fa, I've had power issues where it clicked off just fast enough for the computer to reboot, but the clocks to keep the time, do to them having little caps in them |
[02:10:58] | frankrizzo1985: | I am using fedora |
[02:11:08] | a1fa: | kormoc: the problem is, it doenst reboot, it shuts itself off |
[02:11:12] | nuonguy: | a1fa: so? |
[02:11:33] | kormoc: | a1fa, well, you can check in the bios and see what it's on power fail policy is, it might be set to state off |
[02:11:35] | a1fa: | my next thing is to go to bios and raise the shutdown temperature |
[02:11:49] | a1fa: | maybe its hitting that mark |
[02:11:49] | kormoc: | are you running lm-sensors? |
[02:11:56] | a1fa: | n |
[02:11:57] | nuonguy: | a1fa: does your BIOS actually tell you the current temperature? |
[02:12:18] | ** nuonguy wanders off to kill esd to see if grip works ** | |
[02:12:23] | a1fa: | yes |
[02:12:25] | kormoc: | you might want to try running that, and have it email/log an alert if it ever gets close to the temp you set it to die at |
[02:12:44] | a1fa: | vegbox4: how about my xorg? |
[02:12:47] | a1fa: | http://pastebin.ca/247137 |
[02:13:11] | a1fa: | what is the command for lm-sensors |
[02:13:20] | kormoc: | sensors iirc |
[02:13:24] | kormoc: | it might just be sensor |
[02:13:37] | kormoc: | but that's after running sensors-detect or similar |
[02:13:51] | a1fa: | No sensors found! |
[02:14:11] | kormoc: | you need to make sure you have the sensor driver for your kernel and all that jazz |
[02:14:35] | fryfrog: | so the whole stupid time, it looks like it was the latest nvidia drivers that were causing the FE seg fault |
[02:14:40] | fryfrog: | 9279 or something |
[02:14:48] | fryfrog: | reverted to the 8xxx series and no problems |
[02:15:10] | kormoc: | fryfrog, you should try the stable 9xxx drivers, 9629 |
[02:15:19] | kormoc: | fryfrog, they worked for me just fine |
[02:15:53] | frankrizzo1985: | will running "yum -y upgrade" update me to the latest version of mythtv in fedora 5? |
[02:16:26] | kormoc: | frankrizzo1985, the latest version they have packaged, sure |
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[02:17:06] | frankrizzo1985: | is there any way to manually upgrade to the latest version within 0.20? |
[02:17:24] | kormoc: | sure, it's on mythtv's website |
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[02:17:32] | a1fa: | |
[02:17:32] | kormoc: | but it involves you compiling it by hand on your own |
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[02:17:48] | a1fa: | |
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[02:18:01] | kormoc: | a1fa, that's very good temp |
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[02:18:41] | a1fa: | yeah.. so its not the cpu temp or anything |
[02:19:07] | frankrizzo1985: | kormoc, can you help me with the command to check what version of mythtv that I am on within 0.20? |
[02:19:38] | a1fa: | |
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[02:19:51] | kormoc: | frankrizzo1985, try mythtv --version? |
[02:20:02] | a1fa: | |
[02:20:10] | a1fa: | what ever this is :) |
[02:20:42] | kormoc: | heh, sensors is hardly ever 100% :P |
[02:23:25] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc: do you know if there is a way to force kill a live tv playing to allow a recording? |
[02:23:34] | vegbox4: | is there a quick way to delete all previous recordings? |
[02:23:40] | SlicerDicer-: | I was watching something livetv and forgot that I was recording so the recording did not happen |
[02:23:43] | kormoc: | SlicerDicer-, uhh, don't think so |
[02:23:53] | kormoc: | vegbox4, sure, in the db itself, but it's dangerious |
[02:24:20] | SlicerDicer-: | no worries kormoc |
[02:24:24] | a1fa: | ppoop |
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[02:27:18] | tremby: | took me all day, but i got my tv-out working. i now want to get it in the right screen mode for widescreen. i've found some modelines on the internet which look suitable and want to try them out. i've put them in the Monitor section of xorg.conf but they're not showing up when i do xrandr -q. why might this be? |
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[02:28:37] | kormoc: | tremby, check the log? |
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[02:28:56] | tremby: | good idea, brb |
[02:31:12] | a1fa: | kormoc |
[02:31:17] | a1fa: | anyway to get more kernel debug info |
[02:31:19] | a1fa: | in real time? |
[02:31:32] | a1fa: | maybe if i ssh to the box, and tail it |
[02:31:44] | a1fa: | i will get real time info what happened once it disconnects me |
[02:32:00] | kormoc: | yeah, there's ways, but it's honestly beyond my walking you though it. there's a ton of info on the web about it |
[02:36:37] | tremby: | i found one line in the log which reads, "First detailed timing not preferred mode in violation of standard!" — could this be why i'm not getting my custom modes? |
[02:36:46] | kormoc: | could be |
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[02:37:16] | tremby: | that sentence doesn't really make sense though |
[02:37:26] | tremby: | i have no idea what it means |
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[02:46:58] | frankrizzo1985: | i am getting transcode failed with status 247 when trying to transcode, I researched it on the myth archive but there really isnt anything conclusive |
[02:47:15] | frankrizzo1985: | I am running 0.20 |
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[02:55:07] | mrdch: | does anybody have a guide for setting up a relatively small HD (say 40GB) to record on and then moving recordings to a NAS? alternatively, is NAS fast enough to record to directly? |
[02:55:33] | kormoc: | mrdch, you can record to a NAS fine usually |
[02:57:02] | mrdch: | ok, so then how much space would the box need? (combined front/backend) |
[02:57:44] | mrdch: | a mere 8 GB?!? |
[02:58:50] | mrdch: | *recounts including swap* more like 12. |
[02:59:11] | mrdch: | what's the "usually"? ;-) |
[03:00:13] | kormoc: | well, it all depends on your network |
[03:00:23] | kormoc: | I did fine recording via NFS |
[03:00:50] | mrdch: | gigabit, and an ethernet connection directly between the NAS and the mythtv box, I think |
[03:01:01] | kormoc: | I'd say it's very likely to be fine then |
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[03:09:46] | mrdch: | thanks |
[03:10:58] | FailedExistence: | Can someone point me somewhere to resolve the fact that my s-video output on my ATI 9800 to tv only works when I have my crt monitor plugged in? |
[03:12:32] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc: 49 stations are not 5C that I care to watch here :) |
[03:13:09] | SlicerDicer-: | HBOHD is the only hd channel 5C'ed |
[03:13:23] | SlicerDicer-: | however stupid ass discovery channel is 5C wtf? |
[03:13:28] | ** SlicerDicer- uses hauppauge for that :) ** | |
[03:13:47] | ** SlicerDicer- shows kormoc a skinned cat ;-) ** | |
[03:13:50] | SlicerDicer-: | teach them to 5C me! |
[03:15:55] | SlicerDicer-: | however kormoc after my call to them they removed 5C from quite a number of channels |
[03:15:58] | ** SlicerDicer- snickers :) ** | |
[03:16:46] | SlicerDicer-: | one that I do not really care about that is not 5C anymore is "f*x news" |
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[03:36:59] | xris: | yum. durian ice cream. :) |
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[03:39:15] | D-side: | I think its time for a SA4200 HD. |
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[03:46:27] | FailedExistence: | Is there any way in xorg to simply disable the vga output as a whole on an ATI card? |
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[03:50:11] | savage1: | xis there a way from the video player when I'm choosing my directories of tv shows to just play the whole directory? |
[03:51:51] | mait: | heh. default theme was borked for me, I couldn't see icons. I switched to the MythCenter theme and all is well again... |
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[03:53:16] | xris: | savage1: in mythvideo? |
[03:53:21] | savage1: | i guess |
[03:53:30] | xris: | thought there was a way. I don't use mythvideo, though, just the tv stuff. |
[03:53:39] | savage1: | I mean I choose the play videos button |
[03:53:46] | savage1: | ahhh |
[03:53:57] | savage1: | mait: you know? |
[03:55:07] | Anduin: | savage1: There is not play directory feature |
[03:55:45] | mait: | savage1: no. I was just following up on my situation a few hours ago. |
[03:57:04] | savage1: | anduin: |
[03:57:24] | savage1: | anduin: is there anyway to make it when it's done playing just play another video in the same directory, or a random feature or sometong |
[03:57:34] | savage1: | anything to prevent it from just stopping or looping the same shit hehe |
[03:58:59] | Anduin: | savage1: No good way |
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[04:03:50] | savage1: | is there a way to make a playlist automatically |
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[04:08:21] | vegbox4: | whats the best playback option, kernel, bob, one field, or linear? |
[04:09:10] | a1fa: | what is the highest verbosity for klogd |
[04:09:12] | a1fa: | 7 or 1 |
[04:09:48] | vegbox4: | 1 |
[04:09:51] | a1fa: | its not very clear from the manual |
[04:09:52] | vegbox4: | i think is highest? |
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[04:11:03] | AngryElf: | could anyone tell me why one of my frontends is jumping into the images when i start it up? |
[04:11:24] | thevoid: | jumping? |
[04:12:01] | a1fa: | are you sure? |
[04:12:01] | AngryElf: | where's that? |
[04:14:27] | vegbox4: | whats the best playback option, kernel, bob, one field, or linear? |
[04:15:10] | a1fa: | i hope i catch that error tonigh |
[04:15:14] | a1fa: | if the box shuts off again |
[04:15:28] | a1fa: | i have cpu temp monitoring on one screen and kmsg on the other |
[04:16:20] | a1fa: | i got no debug info from kernel |
[04:16:53] | a1fa: | /sbin/klogd -x -c 1 -d |
[04:17:15] | kormoc: | is the kernel built with debugging symbols and what not? |
[04:17:46] | a1fa: | yeah |
[04:17:50] | a1fa: | i am sure it has been |
[04:17:54] | a1fa: | its debian-stock :)! |
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[04:18:08] | kormoc: | heh, typically they don't, as it slows down the kernel quite a bit |
[04:18:15] | savage1: | listen guys I got one for you |
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[04:18:54] | a1fa: | hopefully this works |
[04:18:55] | a1fa: | night yall |
[04:19:00] | a1fa: | i will report on it in the morning |
[04:19:42] | savage1: | I've got this knopmyth cd that lets me boot into the frontend, then the frontend asks for the general settings like the ip of the machine it wants to connect to etc... so I out the ip of my mythtvbox in my living room that works fine and it won't work |
[04:19:58] | savage1: | is there something I have to do to my main mythbox backend to let it recieve outside connec tions or something |
[04:20:23] | savage1: | I figured, i"d boot this live cd frontend up on my laptop in my bedroom and me and my lady could watch a movie we want fuck these cats in my living room w/ my roomate right? |
[04:20:25] | savage1: | anyone? |
[04:20:49] | kormoc: | you need to follow the directions on myth's website about allowing multiple frontends |
[04:21:28] | savage1: | alright so if I just get it to setup for multiple frontends that'll work right? is it just that simple? |
[04:21:35] | kormoc: | yes |
[04:21:54] | kormoc: | assuming your network connection can keep up (if it's wireless) |
[04:22:41] | vegbox4: | whats the best playback option, kernel, bob, one field, or linear? |
[04:22:50] | kormoc: | which ever one you perfer |
[04:23:02] | kormoc: | if there was one best one for everyone, there wouldn't be a choice |
[04:23:03] | vegbox4: | all of them come out blocky |
[04:23:10] | vegbox4: | or have lines |
[04:23:22] | kormoc: | have you tried upping the quality you are recording at? |
[04:23:26] | savage1: | naw I'm wired |
[04:23:50] | vegbox4: | this is live tv? |
[04:24:00] | kormoc: | it's all recorded |
[04:24:03] | vegbox4: | ahh |
[04:24:09] | vegbox4: | i have it set to 1500kbps |
[04:24:24] | kormoc: | 2200 is the default iirc |
[04:24:31] | vegbox4: | iirc? |
[04:24:44] | kormoc: | If I Recall Correctly |
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[04:31:01] | vegbox4: | Hmmm |
[04:31:04] | vegbox4: | when i record a show it says |
[04:31:10] | vegbox4: | single record +0 Aborted |
[04:31:19] | a1fa: | Watch Jesus Camp |
[04:31:23] | a1fa: | its hilarious |
[04:31:58] | a1fa: | i almost shit my pants when the little turtleneck redneck with a mullet said he was saved at 5 |
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[04:37:21] | tryrt: | how large is a typical recording off of a pvr 150? |
[04:37:33] | kormoc: | depends on the bit-rate and other factors |
[04:38:00] | kormoc: | but I think usually 600 megs per 30 min is default |
[04:38:01] | a1fa: | ~bout 10 mb / min |
[04:38:32] | vegbox4: | i cranked up the bitrate to 7500 |
[04:38:33] | vegbox4: | lol |
[04:38:44] | vegbox4: | for live tv |
[04:38:52] | a1fa: | why? |
[04:39:04] | vegbox4: | so it looks nice |
[04:39:10] | vegbox4: | i was at 1500 and it was so blocky |
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[04:39:21] | a1fa: | ah |
[04:39:23] | a1fa: | i am going to sleep |
[04:39:34] | tryrt: | whats the default bitrate? |
[04:39:43] | vegbox4: | 2200 |
[04:39:45] | vegbox4: | i guess |
[04:39:55] | vegbox4: | well it says 2200 = 1gb/hr |
[04:40:46] | tryrt: | ok |
[04:41:05] | tryrt: | if i have one pvr 150 can i record a show and watch one at the same time? |
[04:41:09] | tryrt: | does it have to be the same show? |
[04:41:25] | kormoc: | it only has 1 tuner, so it can only record one show at once |
[04:41:38] | kormoc: | you can watch a previously recorded show as it records another one |
[04:41:43] | D-side: | sure you can watch a recording AS its being recorded with one ttuner. |
[04:41:55] | D-side: | but thats it, and it wouldnt be via "live tv" |
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[04:42:51] | andrew_: | Hey, anyone here? |
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[04:44:02] | tryrt: | yes |
[04:44:52] | andrew_: | I always hate it when people ask me questions, so don't feel obligated to help me. But what are the dangers in running a frontend that is a later build than the backend? |
[04:45:10] | kormoc: | it won't work |
[04:45:21] | andrew_: | What about the other way around? |
[04:45:24] | kormoc: | if the protocol version changed |
[04:45:27] | kormoc: | won't work |
[04:45:35] | kormoc: | they all have to be the same protocol version :P |
[04:45:40] | andrew_: | 31, right? |
[04:45:47] | kormoc: | whatever yours is |
[04:45:57] | kormoc: | depends on the svn revision |
[04:46:51] | AngryElf: | where should i look for errors that relate to my number of recordings being greater than the "no. of recordings to keep" ? |
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[04:47:10] | savage1: | man I found these instructions for making a diskless frontend |
[04:47:21] | savage1: | booted my machine off the network here, a little laptop, and it just went to a command line hehe |
[04:47:23] | savage1: | no frontend |
[04:47:32] | savage1: | if you riun frontend it gives the standard can't connect to x |
[04:47:34] | savage1: | what gives? |
[04:47:52] | andrew_: | What distribution are you running? |
[04:48:17] | kormoc: | savage1, a diskless frontend tends to require a TFTP/NFS server to boot the os off of, hence why it can run without a disk |
[04:53:01] | savage1: | i got that part |
[04:53:08] | savage1: | it boots off the network no problem |
[04:53:14] | savage1: | but then it juist drops me into a command line |
[04:53:22] | savage1: | I think I need to instlal terminal services? |
[04:53:31] | kormoc: | you might need to configure the network image |
[04:53:42] | savage1: | how does one do that |
[04:53:43] | kormoc: | terminal services is a windows service |
[04:53:56] | kormoc: | depends on what you're doing, the howto you are following should go over that |
[04:53:57] | savage1: | they had som e knoppix package from apt-cache search |
[04:54:01] | savage1: | that mentioned terminal server |
[04:54:12] | savage1: | brb |
[04:54:14] | savage1: | another test |
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[05:33:58] | vegbox4: | is there a way to install more playback filters |
[05:34:09] | vegbox4: | in myth .18 i swear there were more filters |
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[05:51:13] | mactenchi: | my mythbackend is taking up 100% cpu |
[05:51:23] | mactenchi: | even though nothing's recording. any thoughts? |
[05:52:10] | vegbox4: | my seee quil |
[05:52:13] | vegbox4: | is whacky? |
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[06:08:55] | Anduin: | mactenchi: Try running the backend with --noupnp |
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[06:10:25] | mactenchi: | ah |
[06:10:28] | mactenchi: | that's a good idea |
[06:10:40] | mactenchi: | i've recently enabled upnp on my router |
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[06:11:35] | mactenchi: | what does mythtv use upnp for? |
[06:12:19] | mactenchi: | hmm |
[06:12:34] | mactenchi: | it doesn't like --noupnp as a command line argument |
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[06:37:08] | rothgar: | I am using QAM and most of my channels do not have information set for them (the channels show as Unknown) If I know what the channel is is there a place I can set the channel info so the xml grabber will get the info for it? |
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[06:41:26] | mchou: | anyone here watch the show "Dexter?" |
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[06:42:05] | ** mchou waves to nuonguy ** | |
[06:43:11] | mchou: | nuonguy: so did you get the comcast STBs? |
[06:43:25] | mchou: | nuonguy: say you did and didnt flake out |
[06:44:02] | ** nuonguy is a flake ** | |
[06:44:06] | mchou: | lol |
[06:44:16] | nuonguy: | do you read the myth user mailing list? |
[06:44:24] | mchou: | nuonguy: wtf happened? :) |
[06:44:34] | mchou: | nuonguy: not really. why? |
[06:44:34] | nuonguy: | there was along discussion about comcast channels and how they're encrypted |
[06:44:45] | mchou: | nuonguy: linky? |
[06:44:53] | nuonguy: | yeah, almost everything above channel 80 is encrypted |
[06:45:00] | ** nuonguy looks for a link... ** | |
[06:45:15] | mchou: | nuonguy: or better yet, gimme a quick synopsis |
[06:45:39] | mchou: | nuonguy: I dont know where ppl come up withthat junk |
[06:45:50] | mchou: | I assure you that it is not |
[06:46:15] | mchou: | and you and I live two towns apart |
[06:47:18] | mchou: | it's only encrypted for ppl who have the motorola pvrs (not the stand alone STB) |
[06:47:31] | mchou: | the stand alone STB works just fine..... |
[06:47:37] | nuonguy: | I think this is the thread |
[06:47:45] | mchou: | but I dont subscribe to HBO or premiums |
[06:47:52] | nuonguy: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . wire;#234297 |
[06:48:12] | nuonguy: | so, scifi channel, is that premium? |
[06:48:18] | nuonguy: | is that encrypted? |
[06:48:23] | nuonguy: | national geographic? |
[06:48:34] | mchou: | what channel is scifi? |
[06:48:39] | nuonguy: | dunno |
[06:48:41] | mchou: | I mean wwhat # |
[06:49:36] | mchou: | I get DiscoveryHD and INHD and I'm not even subscribed :) |
[06:49:53] | mchou: | so that thread already doesnt apply to me |
[06:50:34] | mchou: | ppl are so stupid.... |
[06:51:05] | mchou: | they have the DVR, of course it wont pass the encrypted stuff. |
[06:51:25] | mchou: | DCT-6200 works just fine. (it's not the DVR) |
[06:51:39] | nuonguy: | just the plain stb |
[06:51:47] | mchou: | nuonguy: yup |
[06:51:57] | mchou: | sigh.... |
[06:52:17] | mchou: | I mean for $5 these guys cant be bothered to find out..... |
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[06:52:34] | mchou: | "Of course, this is going to vary by cable company/location, so it may not be |
[06:52:34] | mchou: | true for where you are. I'm just saying you may want to find out before you |
[06:52:35] | mchou: | buy any expensive non-returnable hardware. |
[06:52:35] | mchou: | |
[06:52:38] | mchou: | " |
[06:52:43] | mchou: | that's just lame |
[06:52:59] | mchou: | who is gonna "buy" anything?? |
[06:53:40] | mchou: | nuonguy: trust me on this one.....go get the STB. You aint going to regret it |
[06:54:16] | ** nuonguy has been playing bf2142 for about 120 hours over the last three weeks ** | |
[06:54:28] | nuonguy: | that addiction's gotta end soon |
[06:54:46] | nuonguy: | been playing as soon as I get home |
[06:54:52] | nuonguy: | been playing late into the night |
[06:55:03] | nuonguy: | been playing before work too |
[06:55:06] | nuonguy: | it's sick |
[06:55:07] | mchou: | lol |
[06:55:20] | mchou: | and your g/f hasnt left you yet? |
[06:55:28] | nuonguy: | not yet |
[06:55:31] | mchou: | lol |
[06:55:38] | nuonguy: | she's been a bit upset about not having any time to talk |
[06:55:45] | mchou: | gimme her number :) |
[06:55:56] | nuonguy: | you'll have to beat it outta me |
[06:56:00] | nuonguy: | :-) |
[06:56:14] | mchou: | bah, that wont be difficult |
[06:56:17] | nuonguy: | so today, we did stuff together |
[06:56:31] | mchou: | I'll engage ya in bf2142 :) |
[06:56:35] | nuonguy: | meet me on a bf2142 server, and we'll see |
[06:56:48] | nuonguy: | yeah |
[06:56:52] | nuonguy: | been playing? |
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[06:56:56] | mchou: | nope |
[06:57:33] | mchou: | I dont see scifi in HD listing..... |
[06:57:41] | nuonguy: | any listing? |
[06:57:48] | mchou: | but I do get the SD channel |
[06:58:13] | mchou: | SciFi |
[06:58:30] | nuonguy: | do you get the music channels? |
[06:58:49] | mchou: | never tried.... |
[06:59:30] | mchou: | wow, this cant be real. |
[06:59:44] | mchou: | I really am not finding SciFiHD |
[06:59:49] | nuonguy: | do you get channel 160? |
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[07:00:02] | nuonguy: | that's sd scifi? |
[07:00:41] | mchou: | my sd sci fi is 73 |
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[07:01:40] | mchou: | at least on the STB it's 73 |
[07:02:24] | mchou: | nuonguy: so what stuff did you and your g/f do together? |
[07:02:37] | nuonguy: | went to the farmers market |
[07:02:42] | nuonguy: | a little cooking |
[07:02:55] | mchou: | yup. now that's quality |
[07:03:31] | mchou: | that's interesting. I dont think SciFi is offeed in HD here |
[07:03:36] | nuonguy: | hey, I'm trying to rip some CDs |
[07:03:38] | mchou: | offered* |
[07:03:41] | nuonguy: | grip crashes |
[07:04:01] | nuonguy: | one thing it complains about is that it can't get /dev/hda exclusively |
[07:04:04] | mchou: | lol |
[07:04:06] | nuonguy: | esd has it open |
[07:04:11] | nuonguy: | wtf is ESD doing? |
[07:04:20] | nuonguy: | that's the enlightenment sound daemon, right? |
[07:04:27] | nuonguy: | gnome uses that, right? |
[07:04:29] | mchou: | man cdrecord |
[07:04:41] | nuonguy: | cdrecord can rip too? |
[07:05:00] | mchou: | nuonguy: lol |
[07:05:12] | mchou: | nuonguy: where you been for the last 10 yrs? |
[07:05:50] | nuonguy: | using windows? |
[07:05:53] | ** nuonguy ducks ** | |
[07:06:38] | nuonguy: | see, I like the idea that grip can rip and encode all in one and that it'll eject the disk so I can just shove in another one and queue them up |
[07:06:58] | Hoxzer: | I guess there is no finnish users around? |
[07:06:59] | mchou: | nuonguy: man, you doing it the hard way |
[07:07:09] | nuonguy: | what do you do? |
[07:07:12] | mchou: | nuonguy: myth can rip cds too. |
[07:07:36] | mchou: | nuonguy: I use kde file manager |
[07:07:40] | nuonguy: | but if I specify perfect recording, it encoded in flak |
[07:07:45] | mchou: | nuonguy: drag and drop |
[07:07:49] | nuonguy: | ah, kde, of course |
[07:08:04] | mchou: | right onto my ipod |
[07:08:58] | mchou: | anyway, linux sound really sucks |
[07:09:13] | mchou: | ESD and artsd both suck rocks |
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[07:09:26] | mchou: | and ESD is gonna be deprecated |
[07:09:29] | ** nuonguy wonders whether to tell the other embarassing story ** | |
[07:09:35] | mchou: | so is artsd for that matter |
[07:09:41] | nuonguy: | in favour of what? |
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[07:10:09] | mchou: | nuonguy: I forget. something new is coming down the pipe |
[07:10:28] | nuonguy: | so, I got my gf an ipod |
[07:10:40] | mchou: | probably even more messed up than ESD or artsd |
[07:10:40] | nuonguy: | 8GB nano – she really likes it |
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[07:10:47] | nuonguy: | it's cool |
[07:10:53] | nuonguy: | she likes it and I do too |
[07:10:55] | nuonguy: | works great |
[07:11:08] | mchou: | nuonguy: so you "repo-ed" it? :) |
[07:11:23] | nuonguy: | but, I've been believing these geeks who say that the only thing the ipod has over the competitors is name recognition |
[07:11:53] | nuonguy: | so, partially out of curiosity, I go to Fry's and pick up the 8G Sandisk sansa e280 |
[07:12:00] | mchou: | nuonguy: lol |
[07:12:02] | nuonguy: | for myself |
[07:12:06] | nuonguy: | about the same size |
[07:12:09] | nuonguy: | about the same price |
[07:12:12] | mchou: | that's like the worst interface |
[07:12:26] | nuonguy: | not, by a fucking long, long shot as friendly and slick as the ipod |
[07:12:26] | mchou: | Sansa sucks |
[07:12:38] | nuonguy: | the interface is lame, lame, lame, lame |
[07:12:53] | nuonguy: | I can get by cuz it's a dumb USB device, but man is it lame |
[07:12:53] | mchou: | nuonguy: wait for the windows version :) |
[07:13:23] | nuonguy: | Been just using konq to drag files to it |
[07:13:29] | mchou: | nuonguy: the analysts are predicting real competition from MSFT for ipod |
[07:14:02] | mchou: | maybe MSFT will get it right by v3 :) |
[07:14:20] | nuonguy: | bribing the record companies is not going to help? |
[07:14:34] | nuonguy: | I'm embarrassed by some of the dumb interface things on this thing |
[07:14:50] | mchou: | nuonguy: lol. MSFT will just buy them out |
[07:14:53] | nuonguy: | A programmer came up with it, and as a programmer, I hang my head in shame |
[07:15:03] | nuonguy: | the wheel is uncomfortable and the buttons are hard to press |
[07:15:24] | mchou: | nuonguy: I really suggest you return the Sansa |
[07:15:31] | nuonguy: | too late – 14 days |
[07:15:33] | mchou: | while you still have time |
[07:15:53] | mchou: | sweet tlak the frys guys |
[07:15:57] | mchou: | talk* |
[07:16:10] | nuonguy: | is kde ripping them my CD as soon as I open it? |
[07:16:11] | mchou: | say you buy an expensive ipod instead |
[07:16:14] | nuonguy: | what's it doing? |
[07:16:20] | nuonguy: | ah, maybe |
[07:16:32] | nuonguy: | say I want to trade it for either the 8G ipod or the 60G |
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[07:16:50] | mchou: | nuonguy: yup. that's exactly what kde is doing once you drag the files |
[07:17:17] | mchou: | nuonguy: 60G is a bit excessive |
[07:17:23] | nuonguy: | I didn't even do any dragging |
[07:17:31] | nuonguy: | I just inserted it then browsed to it |
[07:17:41] | nuonguy: | what is the gnome equivelant of kcontrol? |
[07:17:52] | mchou: | I dont use gnome |
[07:17:58] | mchou: | nmo idea |
[07:17:59] | nuonguy: | sorry for the even-worse-then usual typing – I have a cat on my lap |
[07:18:28] | mchou: | you have abird and a cat? |
[07:18:45] | nuonguy: | yup |
[07:18:46] | mchou: | you too weird! |
[07:18:57] | nuonguy: | 15 pounds of cat |
[07:19:13] | nuonguy: | the pictures teh rescue centre posted didn't really show her from teh side |
[07:19:22] | mchou: | hahah!! |
[07:19:22] | nuonguy: | she's on a diet and doesn't like it |
[07:19:43] | mchou: | died my ass. Mt. View is full of rats she can feast on |
[07:19:46] | nuonguy: | I thought she was too fat to catch anything but the other day she suproised me by catching a mouse in the garden |
[07:19:51] | nuonguy: | yes! |
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[07:19:59] | mchou: | even been to Castro St. late at night? |
[07:20:12] | nuonguy: | if by late you mean 11pm, yes |
[07:20:15] | mchou: | place is rat infested |
[07:20:25] | nuonguy: | yeah, the chinese market must be |
[07:20:31] | nuonguy: | that place reeks so bad in summer |
[07:20:33] | dtm: | hehe you can smell it from the parking lot |
[07:20:41] | dtm: | w00f |
[07:20:54] | nuonguy: | the fish store guy bought some fish for his two eels |
[07:20:57] | mchou: | go behind in the alleyways |
[07:21:00] | nuonguy: | one died from it, the other almost died |
[07:21:23] | mchou: | place is crawling w/rats |
[07:21:32] | nuonguy: | lovely |
[07:21:39] | dtm: | mchou: yeah that's how to get to the parking lot depending on where you're going, sadly |
[07:21:41] | mchou: | I kid you not |
[07:21:49] | dtm: | and some bars have rear entrances |
[07:22:00] | mchou: | dtm: yup. |
[07:22:15] | nuonguy: | do you guys think vbr is a good idea? |
[07:22:24] | dtm: | lol yeah. |
[07:22:32] | dtm: | as opposed to what? |
[07:22:37] | dtm: | being a bad idea? |
[07:22:40] | nuonguy: | constant bit rate? |
[07:22:41] | mchou: | dtm: Tied House being a prime example |
[07:22:53] | nuonguy: | what's the diff between stereo, dual channel and joined stereo? |
[07:23:12] | dtm: | nuonguy: are you asking if there is one universally correct way to do everything, and everything else is false/bad? no |
[07:23:16] | mchou: | nuonguy: compression |
[07:23:39] | mchou: | nuonguy: joined stero takes least space |
[07:23:44] | dtm: | nuonguy: joint stereo is a compression method so when the two channels are similar enough, the encoder cancels one out |
[07:23:46] | mchou: | joint* |
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[07:24:01] | dtm: | joint stereo should always be used if possible, if you are just using a stereo system |
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[07:24:56] | nuonguy: | really? Wouldn't that be a problem for my reciever? |
[07:25:02] | mchou: | dtm: are they build a new parking lot in downtown Mt. View? |
[07:25:07] | dtm: | no idea |
[07:25:11] | nuonguy: | yes |
[07:25:16] | dtm: | i haven't been there in a couple years. but i wouldn't doubt it |
[07:25:17] | mchou: | dtm: I think it's behind that law firm |
[07:25:28] | dtm: | they basically gotta coz the streets are all but shredded |
[07:25:35] | dtm: | but hey what's new? look at 101 |
[07:25:37] | mchou: | forget the name of the law firm atm |
[07:25:39] | nuonguy: | I got a four-inch nail on my bike tire 3 weeks ago driving by it |
[07:25:52] | mchou: | nuonguy: ouch! |
[07:25:58] | nuonguy: | fenwick & west? |
[07:26:06] | mchou: | nuonguy: yeah, that's it |
[07:26:16] | mchou: | memory is going in my old age |
[07:27:06] | mchou: | I chose the wrong profession. Shoulda been a lawyer instead |
[07:27:22] | mchou: | then I'd get to meet cute chicks :) |
[07:29:07] | mchou: | between Kaise and Fenwick they've got the chick market cornered |
[07:29:13] | mchou: | Kaiser* |
[07:30:13] | xris: | stupid firewire drivers seem to have killed mythtv. |
[07:30:22] | mchou: | huh? |
[07:30:36] | xris: | dunno. any attempt I make to touch the firewire port (plugreport/etc) hangs |
[07:30:38] | mchou: | xris: which kernel is this? |
[07:30:40] | xris: | new kernel on its way down |
[07:31:35] | xris: | cable box got unresponsive, so I rebooted. now suddenly nothing works |
[07:31:46] | xris: | mythbackend just hangs, goes defunct (not even kill -9 helps it) |
[07:32:03] | mchou: | xris: hehe |
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[07:32:17] | mchou: | new kernel, new libs :) |
[07:32:38] | xris: | yeah, yum is running now. |
[07:32:41] | xris: | network is slow. blech |
[07:33:01] | xris: | hopefully it'll be fixed before I miss the second showing of the iron chef special from tonight |
[07:33:10] | mchou: | xris: hehe, you poor thing. Nothing going your way tonight |
[07:33:26] | xris: | nah. I got durian ice cream for dessert. it's all good. ;) |
[07:33:28] | nuonguy: | how, where do you tell lame how to encode? |
[07:33:29] | xris: | well, except the durian. heh |
[07:33:37] | nuonguy: | what's durian ice cream? |
[07:33:38] | mchou: | lol |
[07:33:44] | nuonguy: | I'm hungry |
[07:33:47] | xris: | nuonguy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durian |
[07:33:48] | mchou: | durian is a weird fruit |
[07:33:54] | ** nuonguy eyes xris' ice cream and drools ** | |
[07:33:55] | xris: | mchou: that's putting it lightly |
[07:34:08] | xris: | nuonguy: I wouldn't do that without knowing what it tastes like |
[07:34:25] | mchou: | I prefer mangosteens |
[07:34:32] | mchou: | ripe! |
[07:34:42] | xris: | mchou: funny. "delicious" vs "smells like rotting flesh" |
[07:34:44] | nuonguy: | oh yeah, the smelly fruit! |
[07:34:48] | nuonguy: | I've always wanted to try it |
[07:34:54] | xris: | nuonguy: and tastes kind of like onion |
[07:35:06] | xris: | freezer section in most good grocery stores should carry it. |
[07:35:06] | nuonguy: | I like onion |
[07:35:11] | xris: | doesn't smell when it's frozen |
[07:35:13] | nuonguy: | cool |
[07:35:40] | mchou: | xris: asians always had fascination for life/death when it comes to food :) |
[07:36:06] | mchou: | ever wonder why asians insist on seeing the fish live b4 it's cooked? :) |
[07:36:06] | nuonguy: | am I going to have to edit the database to change the way lame encodes? |
[07:36:21] | nuonguy: | I'd just let it do its thing, but no mp3 player undertands flac natively, eh? |
[07:36:57] | xris: | wow, plugreport is eating 99% of my cpu |
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[07:37:19] | mchou: | xris: haha!! |
[07:37:32] | mchou: | that one serious spinning process |
[07:39:41] | xris: | yeah. reboot time |
[07:40:43] | mchou: | craigslist is great! |
[07:41:15] | mchou: | someone gave me a very nice ups for free. I just had to replace the battery. |
[07:41:29] | dtm: | HA! |
[07:41:38] | dtm: | mchou: well done. |
[07:41:55] | mchou: | dtm: the batteries set me back $50 :) |
[07:42:15] | mchou: | but the UPS retail is over $250 |
[07:42:24] | mchou: | new |
[07:42:32] | xris: | nice |
[07:42:59] | mchou: | yeah, it's even got an led power meter indicator |
[07:43:13] | mchou: | I should say "load" |
[07:44:06] | mchou: | but I must say I'm puzzled why those things dont just use auto batteries...... |
[07:44:33] | xris: | $$ |
[07:44:38] | xris: | or not |
[07:44:42] | xris: | drip, drip, drip |
[07:44:47] | xris: | boat batteries, maybe |
[07:44:49] | mchou: | it uses some other weird battery that's more expensive than autos |
[07:44:58] | xris: | yeah, sealed lead acid gel cell |
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[07:45:01] | mchou: | and aout the same form factor |
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[07:45:08] | mchou: | about* |
[07:45:14] | dtm: | mchou: auto batteries get ruined if they drop below about 80% charge. for that, you'd want deep cycle marine batteries. |
[07:45:28] | dtm: | so maybe that's why |
[07:45:32] | xris: | dtm: pretty sure the UPS ones are close to that |
[07:45:35] | mchou: | maybe |
[07:45:37] | dtm: | ok i dont know. |
[07:46:18] | Paladine: | anyone know how to make mrtg display graphs for Kbps instead of Bps or bps? |
[07:51:10] | ** xris really wishes that someone would start maintaining the lirc kernel modules in fedora extras ** | |
[07:51:20] | nuonguy: | kaudiocreator is the shiznit |
[07:51:43] | mchou: | nuonguy: that's why ppl use kde instead of lame gnome |
[07:51:44] | xris: | nuonguy: I use abcde. :) |
[07:51:44] | nuonguy: | xris: anything wrong with the atrpms lirc packages? |
[07:52:01] | xris: | nuonguy: atrpms conflicts with livna, freshrpms and extras |
[07:52:06] | xris: | but other than that, no. |
[07:52:09] | xris: | I do use his stuff. |
[07:52:22] | xris: | just wondering why he doesn't start packaging it for extras |
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[07:54:30] | mchou: | having a ups means when I loose power, my firewire ports wont change on me arbitrarily |
[07:54:37] | mchou: | lose* |
[07:54:48] | xris: | mchou: and that's what started half of this trouble. |
[07:54:57] | mchou: | xris: get a ups :) |
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[07:55:19] | mchou: | that's bitten me in the ass many times |
[07:55:23] | xris: | mchou: I have one. I had to reboot |
[07:56:42] | mchou: | that is supremely anooying about firewire port assignment |
[07:57:04] | mchou: | I dont know if that's the STB or the computer, but that's seriously screwed |
[07:57:39] | xris: | great. still f'd |
[07:57:44] | mchou: | I'm inclined to think it's the STB. but I'm too lazy to configure hotplug |
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[08:00:54] | xris: | time to try the other firewire card |
[08:00:55] | xris: | blech |
[08:00:57] | xris: | wonder what happened |
[08:03:50] | mchou: | fore those of you who live in CA, Albertsons is selling compact fluorescent light bulbs, 4 for $1 |
[08:03:55] | mchou: | for* |
[08:04:15] | mchou: | my brother went out and got 20 boxes (80 bulbs total) |
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[08:05:04] | mchou: | about time we got a PG&E break |
[08:05:36] | xris: | well, at least iron chef is getting rebroadcast |
[08:05:47] | mchou: | xris: lol |
[08:05:56] | xris: | missed this showing by 5 mins. blech |
[08:06:16] | mchou: | you mean you have firewire working? |
[08:06:16] | xris: | maybe it's time I thought about changing my mythbox. |
[08:06:24] | xris: | yeah. changed ports/cards. |
[08:06:33] | xris: | using the onboard now (with the plug in the front of the machine) |
[08:06:54] | mchou: | I dont get it. why change mythboxen? |
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[08:09:16] | nuonguy: | xris: is it like how drives get re-ordered if you remove a drive? |
[08:09:41] | xris: | nuonguy: rebooting does that sometimes, yes. |
[08:10:01] | xris: | mchou: change mainly so I could get something smaller/quieter/faster (for hd) |
[08:10:20] | xris: | I wouldn't do it, though. money needs to go to a new screen, new drive array, trip to italy |
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[08:10:33] | xris: | and the "we'll have kids someday" bank acct. heh |
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[08:11:12] | mchou: | I think I'm done with mythboxen upgrades |
[08:11:33] | mchou: | I reasonably happy with my box now |
[08:11:38] | xris: | mine's fine for a long time to come |
[08:11:46] | xris: | I don't really need an upgrade until I actually get an hdtv |
[08:12:01] | xris: | pisses me off when this firewire stuff breaks, though. |
[08:12:09] | mchou: | I'm using a mobo that has 6 pci slots |
[08:12:10] | xris: | I don't like having the wire poked into the front of the box like that |
[08:12:22] | mchou: | xris: lol |
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[08:12:35] | mchou: | xris: you make it sound so sexy :) |
[08:12:59] | xris: | heh |
[08:13:11] | mchou: | mythsex |
[08:13:24] | mchou: | that's the new plugin |
[08:14:16] | mchou: | firewire port assignment really need to be fixed. it's lame |
[08:14:38] | mchou: | that's the thing that pissed me off to no end |
[08:15:07] | xris: | mine stay pretty constant |
[08:15:14] | xris: | 0 and 2 on the pci card, 1 and 3 on the onboard |
[08:15:27] | mchou: | that's cause you havent had power outtage :) |
[08:15:37] | xris: | I've rebooted several times |
[08:15:41] | xris: | pc and cable boxes |
[08:15:48] | mchou: | no, it's if stb reboots |
[08:16:14] | mchou: | if stb reboots then firewire port assignment changes |
[08:16:52] | mchou: | pisses me off even talking about it |
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[08:23:34] | xris: | yeah, like I said. doesn't always happen to me. |
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[08:38:28] | Mattwj2006: | hi guys |
[08:39:00] | Mattwj2006: | anyone around tonight? |
[08:39:02] | Mattwj2006: | :-s |
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[08:41:07] | juski: | nah. in a channel full of users there's nobody around |
[08:41:22] | juski: | not since you showed up anyway :-P |
[08:41:57] | Mattwj2006: | lol |
[08:42:08] | Mattwj2006: | okay...I guess I'll leave then ;) |
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[08:42:30] | Mattwj2006: | I had a crazy idea I want to know what you guys though.... |
[08:42:53] | Mattwj2006: | encoding HDTV to MP4 is it a good idea? |
[08:43:01] | juski: | could be |
[08:43:16] | juski: | depends if your system is beefy enough to play mpeg4 at hd resolutions |
[08:43:38] | Mattwj2006: | well I would be playing it on a P4 3.3 Ghz |
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[08:47:45] | Mattwj2006: | what do you think? |
[08:47:47] | juski: | try it on some test recordings |
[08:47:53] | juski: | suck it & see! |
[08:49:13] | Mattwj2006: | lol |
[08:49:16] | Mattwj2006: | good idea :) |
[08:52:13] | juski: | haha for a laugh I just added some baubles to my new theme |
[08:53:36] | Mattwj2006: | nice just in time for Christmas! |
[08:54:41] | juski: | it needs a tree |
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[09:11:28] | juski: | ahhh bugger. the logo graphic gets superimposed over everything |
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[09:14:26] | Mattwj2006: | oh that sucks |
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[09:29:18] | Paladine: | mrtg is stupid |
[09:29:42] | Paladine: | it won't let me display rate as kbps |
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[09:59:55] | arnducky: | Hi, has anyone ever successfully installed the video capture gak for an original Radeon All-In-Wonder (2D video driver = R100 or '7000 series)? |
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[10:07:33] | Mattwj2006: | well I am transcoding to MP4 right now |
[10:07:44] | Mattwj2006: | HDTV in MP4 should be interesting :) |
[10:09:16] | arnducky: | I am using Linux kernel 2.6.17-10–386 and X.Org version: 7.1.1 |
[10:11:38] | arnducky: | even used 9200+ AIW cards seem to cost over 100 USD + shipping & handling on eBay. Any suggestions as to an economical Linux supported AGP based TV tuner card? |
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[10:21:07] | Mattwj2006: | I have a GeForce FX 5200 |
[10:21:29] | Mattwj2006: | they are cheap and help with MPEG 2 and work in an AGP slot |
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[10:24:26] | ikke_: | howdy all, has anyone experienced problems with tuning channels lately (dvb)? I can only pick up channels for one tsid. |
[10:24:57] | ikke_: | went back few revisions of mythtv, and now again tunes all channels |
[10:25:01] | ikke_: | bug? |
[10:27:02] | Mattwj2006: | no problem for me |
[10:27:26] | Mattwj2006: | my pvr-150 doesn't work though :( |
[10:28:21] | ikke_: | don't have one of those, can't help. terratec cinergy 1200-c. |
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[10:35:17] | Mattwj2006: | I hope it works out for you |
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[10:54:11] | juski: | arnducky: there are no AGP based Tv tuners which work in Linux |
[10:54:58] | juski: | a good reason for them being so expensive is to put you off buying them! :-P |
[10:55:17] | arnducky: | none — not asingle card from Nvidia or ATI (that is not what the gatos site says — unfortuneatly they don't support my kernel or xserver) |
[10:55:23] | arnducky: | ???!!! |
[10:56:56] | arnducky: | http://gatos.sourceforge.net/ |
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[11:01:46] | qu0zl: | would a USB tuner be suitable arnducky? I know there are some v4l usb devices out there, no idea if any of them work with mythtv though |
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[11:02:42] | arnducky: | qu0zl, they cost a little less on eBay, but many are XP only |
[11:03:07] | arnducky: | haven't seen one with Linux support so far |
[11:05:45] | arnducky: | also USB is very unreliable — transmission errors abound. Fine if you're just watching TV and don't care about dropped frames or an 'unlucky' application freeze. I want to transfer from/edit video from tape decks and other signal sources |
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[11:06:38] | arnducky: | I have a tuner that works fine in 'doze. I'm just trying to get off the Microsoft crack <sigh> |
[11:07:57] | arnducky: | if any of you do video or audio capture and editing (especially non-linear), I should think firewire is a must, even at 400 mbits vs USB 2 |
[11:08:28] | k-man: | when i click on a video in mythweb, i get this error: 2022_20061112060000.mpg does not exist in the recordings directory |
[11:08:33] | arnducky: | but alas, still no Linux version for QuBase and ProTools, let alone Avid <sigh> |
[11:12:59] | Paladine: | bwahahahahahahaha |
[11:13:10] | Paladine: | dremels pwn eery other rotary tool |
[11:13:14] | Paladine: | every |
[11:14:01] | Paladine: | mine just arrived today |
[11:14:19] | Paladine: | and it chewed through my 1mm thick steel side panel for my server like a hot knife through butter |
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[11:21:31] | arnducky: | "Radeon TV-input code has been merged into X.Org CVS, to appear in release 7.0, this includes support for both original Rage Theatre and Rage Theatre 200 version. |
[11:21:56] | arnducky: | Anybody know how to activate and configure it? |
[11:30:56] | juski: | arnducky: nope. good luck & I hope it's v4l compliant |
[11:33:04] | arnducky: | it's Xv and AVview compliant, dunno about video4Linux |
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[11:55:35] | juski: | arnducky: well if it ain't v4l compliant, you can't use it with mythtv |
[11:57:48] | ** arnducky sighs ** | |
[11:58:50] | qu0zl: | arnducky, send a mail to the mailing list, a lot more people will see it and you may get lucky. I wouldn't be too optomistic tbh though :( |
[11:59:01] | Merlin83b: | http://gatos.sourceforge.net/ |
[11:59:11] | Merlin83b: | Has it for mach64 and rage128 cards. |
[11:59:35] | juski: | I've read that capture resolutions can be somewhat crippled on 'all in one' boards |
[12:00:20] | qu0zl: | the kernel module at http://gatos.sourceforge.net/km.php apparently provides v4l support for the AIW card too |
[12:00:51] | qu0zl: | Does mythtv use v4l or v4l2? or both? |
[12:00:52] | juski: | interesting if they support the new hardware encoders from ATI |
[12:01:08] | qu0zl: | was last modified by Vladimir Dergachev 2:00am Friday, July 25th 2003 |
[12:01:16] | qu0zl: | d'oh |
[12:05:05] | juski: | did ATI ever manage to make their stuff work properly in Windows? I never had much luck with an AiW |
[12:23:27] | quicksil1er: | not exactly myth, but has anyone got any experience on the idea of a linux-based "car radio"? |
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[12:31:11] | Merlin83b: | quicksil1er: mini-itx.com |
[12:31:37] | Merlin83b: | There's quite an active community building car PCs. |
[12:31:51] | ** quicksil1er nods ** | |
[12:31:53] | quicksil1er: | I thought there might be |
[12:32:13] | quicksil1er: | that one is runnign DOS.(first news article on that page) |
[12:32:16] | quicksil1er: | is that typical? |
[12:32:37] | Merlin83b: | I don't think so, normally they run proper OS :) |
[12:32:38] | qu0zl: | don't think so quicklsilver |
[12:32:56] | Merlin83b: | Very often linux. |
[12:33:00] | ** quicksil1er nods ** | |
[12:33:01] | qu0zl: | there's even dual-core mini-itx boards out there that you can put in a car |
[12:33:08] | quicksil1er: | I don't need anything that powerful |
[12:33:10] | qu0zl: | people attach them to touchscreen lcd panels in the front |
[12:33:15] | quicksil1er: | I just want to be able to play MP3 and FM radio |
[12:33:27] | quicksil1er: | and possibly CD if I can squeeze that into the form factor |
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[12:34:00] | qu0zl: | yeah, i always wondered how useful a video server in a car is for the driver :) |
[12:34:08] | Merlin83b: | Zero useful :) |
[12:34:25] | quicksil1er: | what about the funny audio connector? (Actually are cars all over the world the same w.r.t audio connectors?) |
[12:35:12] | qu0zl: | no idea quicksilver, there are some good forums about this though. i always run into them when i'm searching for mini-itx stuff |
[12:36:32] | ** quicksil1er nods ** | |
[12:36:46] | qu0zl: | way off-topic but does anybody know the size of the stock prescott fans? I want to order one without going home from work to measure it :) |
[12:36:51] | quicksil1er: | It might be all too expensive and I'm better off with just geting a car raadio with USB on the front |
[12:37:21] | quicksil1er: | but I like the idea of having something expandable (e.g. if anyone releases a route map program for linux I could stick a GPS dongle on it, etc) |
[12:38:57] | juski: | just made my first 3d button in inkscape |
[12:39:00] | juski: | WAY faster! |
[12:39:55] | quicksil1er: | inkscape rocks |
[12:40:04] | quicksil1er: | sometimes takes a little while to get the hang of |
[12:40:05] | quicksil1er: | but it does |
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[12:48:26] | juski: | I learned how to do the 'aqua-ish' 3d effect from a tutorial then just applied the same concepts to inkscape |
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[12:55:04] | juski: | it's all about the gradients, oh yay |
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[13:05:44] | mikearthur: | can anyone recommend a tool for editing/transcoding mythtv videos? |
[13:10:44] | quicksil1er: | juski: you knwo inkscape is scriptable, right? so you can implement your technique programmatically and then run it batch-like for all the buttons you want? |
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[13:15:47] | ikke_: | mikearthur: i edited some recordings with avidemux. give it a try. |
[13:16:14] | mikearthur: | ikke_: after nuvexport/mythtranscode or before? |
[13:16:37] | ikke_: | hmmm. it was before. |
[13:16:44] | mikearthur: | cool |
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[13:17:13] | ikke_: | recording from dvb, so it is mpg. |
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[13:17:19] | mikearthur: | aye, me too |
[13:17:56] | ikke_: | only problem is that i haven't found any editor that would understand .sup subtitles. |
[13:18:32] | ikke_: | that what comes in finnish dvb stream. |
[13:19:36] | ikke_: | but otherwise avidemux made a nice xvid out of the recording. |
[13:19:41] | mikearthur: | nice one |
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[13:21:17] | puzzled: | hello |
[13:23:04] | puzzled: | anyone have any suggestions for an AGP low profile video card with good tv-out to be used in a MythTV box? So far I have found the Asus N6200/TD which has compite video out |
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[13:26:38] | juski: | quicksil1er: really? haha |
[13:26:55] | juski: | what's wrong with mythtv's inbuilt editor anyway? |
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[13:27:27] | juski: | nothing, that's what, IMHO |
[13:28:32] | mikearthur: | juski: the box I run as my backend would take an age to transcode anything |
[13:29:07] | juski: | so run a slave backend on the frontend machine |
[13:29:56] | juski: | hmmm my case badgers aren't selling quickly :( |
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[13:30:53] | mikearthur: | juski: how do you mean slave backend? |
[13:32:31] | quicksil1er: | mikearthur: you can have more than one backends |
[13:32:40] | quicksil1er: | mikearthur: in that case one is the master and the others are slaves |
[13:32:40] | mikearthur: | interesting, never knew that |
[13:32:49] | mikearthur: | how would the files be transferred between them? |
[13:33:18] | quicksil1er: | I think the database records which backend a file is actually on, and a client requests the file from the correct backend when you try to watch it |
[13:33:28] | mikearthur: | ok |
[13:33:29] | mikearthur: | so doing that |
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[13:33:47] | mikearthur: | I could have mythtranscode running on another machine than my main backend |
[13:34:22] | quicksil1er: | I'm not sure about that |
[13:34:35] | quicksil1er: | have to wait for juski to wake up to answer |
[13:34:36] | quicksil1er: | :) |
[13:34:42] | mikearthur: | hehe |
[13:34:58] | ikke_: | Juski: that's perfect, no problem. but the transcoding failed within myth, and i lost the whole video. luckily it was copied somewhere else before that. but in such case you can't use internal editor anymore. |
[13:35:33] | ikke_: | at least i don't know a way to "import" tv recordings back to myth. |
[13:35:38] | qu0zl: | ikke_, i dunno if vlc supports nuv but if it does it's an excellant transcoder |
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[13:36:27] | ikke_: | qu0zl: it plays it nice at least. |
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[13:38:23] | qu0zl: | ahh oops, it was mikearthur looking for the transcoder not you ikke_ . I must read back further :) |
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[13:46:31] | fryfrog: | Is anyone using nvidia's 9629 drivers? |
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[13:49:29] | juski: | mikearthur: transcoding jobs need not only happen on the machine they're recorded on |
[13:49:32] | otwin: | juski: hi – how much is shipping to luxembourg for your case badges? |
[13:50:14] | juski: | otwin: 1 GBP for up to 10 badges |
[13:51:38] | ikke_: | was there a way to get into channel tuning info from livetv? or only from mythtv-setup? |
[13:51:52] | juski: | I'm only getting rid of them online because I didn't sell all of them at the expo ;) |
[13:52:02] | ** otwin heads to xe.com ** | |
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[13:58:45] | otwin: | juski: 3 more sold – in a few minutes... |
[14:00:42] | juski: | heh. cheers! |
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[14:03:58] | otwin: | juski: so 5.50 GBP- right? |
[14:04:08] | juski: | sounds fine to me |
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[14:06:07] | trevarthan: | Hey, I just used the new mytharchive that ships with Mythtv 0.20 to burn a DVD. It works fine in Xine, but in a commercial DVD player the menus "stick". Once you click them, nothing happens. Sometime it'll work if you FF or press STOP and then PLAY again. Is this a known problem? I had this problem with 0.19's most recent mythburn web interface too. Any ideas? |
[14:06:37] | otwin: | juski: done – my fastest ebay transaction so far... |
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[14:11:11] | mikearthur: | juski: can you do it on a frontend machine? |
[14:12:18] | juski: | mikearthur: what? make a frontend run as a slave backend? course you can |
[14:12:42] | mikearthur: | I meant make a frontend transcode without doing that |
[14:12:52] | mikearthur: | but its no biggie to make it a slave backend I guess |
[14:13:29] | psofa: | card 0: CK804 [NVidia CK804], device 2: Intel ICH – IEC958 [NVidia CK804 – IEC958] |
[14:13:37] | juski: | without it being a backend how else would it do any transcoding? |
[14:13:43] | psofa: | anyone knows what this device is for ^? |
[14:14:07] | psofa: | its on my crrappy ac97 sound card |
[14:14:11] | juski: | psofa: digital audio ouptut |
[14:14:52] | fryfrog: | you could set it up as a slave backend w/o any tuner cards in it, then it should do transcode jobs no? |
[14:15:04] | juski: | yes |
[14:15:13] | psofa: | juski, but i dont see a diital output on my card :P |
[14:15:23] | fryfrog: | And if you had like a pair of dual core chips, you could allow it to do 4 jobs at once! |
[14:15:43] | qu0zl: | that's what IEC958 is psofa , you may not have a physical connector for it though |
[14:15:46] | juski: | psofa: then maybe it's a DAC which'd take IEC958 audio & convert it to induh-vidual channels |
[14:15:47] | qu0zl: | it's just part of the chip |
[14:16:19] | psofa: | ah that makes sense |
[14:17:37] | seth|laptop: | my board had onboard IEC958, I needed to get a spidf header, and connect it to the motherboard pinout for digitasl audio |
[14:18:36] | seth|laptop: | fryfrog: got my harmony 880 programmed up over the weekend. Wow. |
[14:18:54] | fryfrog: | nice? |
[14:18:58] | seth|laptop: | very |
[14:19:17] | fryfrog: | My 668 866 686? started saying it needed new batteries :/ |
[14:19:33] | fryfrog: | also, my backend still crashes when i visit recorded programs :( |
[14:19:35] | seth|laptop: | customize those activity buttons, press one button for TV, recorded stuff, videos, dvd's, music |
[14:20:28] | seth|laptop: | I ended up having to use the MCE layout, as my usb ir was from an mce remote, that came with my pvr150, but it worked out great, after tweaking the lircrc file |
[14:20:32] | fryfrog: | i like it, though i only have "watch tv" setup :) |
[14:20:40] | fryfrog: | cool |
[14:20:51] | psofa: | err are these messages something to worry about : AO: audio waiting for space on soundcard: have 1152 need 6144 |
[14:21:01] | psofa: | i get these with v -all |
[14:21:03] | seth|laptop: | now my wife uses it more than me :-( |
[14:21:04] | seth|laptop: | hehe |
[14:21:39] | qu0zl: | psofa, if you don't get any breakups in your audio i wouldn't worry. if you do then i'd look at those :) It's having to wait on the sound device buffers |
[14:22:11] | fryfrog: | psofa: you could tinker with the "use aggressive audo buffering" or "extra audio buffer" settings taht i have *no* clue where they are |
[14:22:14] | qu0zl: | you can use setpci to change the pci devices prioritys, the audio device may be being starved |
[14:23:09] | qu0zl: | psofa, if fryfrog's suggestions don't help, check out http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/PCI_Latency . If you're not getting little skips in playback it's not an issue though |
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[14:24:11] | psofa: | qu0zl, well without the extra buffering option i get sound breakups and prebuffer pauses.With the extra buffering i dont get these but it seems that the video isnt played at full fps.It isnt much obvious but its still annoying if you can notice it.I thought the fps issue could be linked to the wait for sound buffer |
[14:24:52] | qu0zl: | hmm it's possible, check out the PCI latency page, and have a google for 'gentoo pci latency tweak', there's a great gentoo page about that stuff that i can't remember the address of |
[14:25:16] | qu0zl: | basically, the pci bus priorities of a lot of devices default to stupid values, which cuts down the effective throughput the bus gets |
[14:26:02] | qu0zl: | psofa, http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/articles/hardware-stability-p2.xml |
[14:26:05] | psofa: | qu0zl, ive already thought of this but it seems i cant change the pci latency using this crap mobo.With my old one i could.Now all pci devices report a latency of 0 |
[14:26:08] | qu0zl: | that's the good gentoo link on it |
[14:26:16] | qu0zl: | ahh lame. :) |
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[14:27:00] | qu0zl: | no idea then, sorry to say :( |
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[14:27:14] | psofa: | :( |
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[14:27:31] | psofa: | anyway ill look into the docs in case i extract sth useful |
[14:27:38] | fryfrog: | 2006-11–06 17:18:10.246 Unable to initialize plugin 'myth2'. <-- wtf? |
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[14:28:48] | fryfrog: | psofa: a lot of mine report a latency of 0 also, except my air2pc cards with 64 |
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[14:29:18] | qu0zl: | psofa, if you do, let us know what you find. I've 2 devices that stick to latency 0. the others behave. Had none that misbehaved on my last board , a sp13000 |
[14:29:49] | mikearthur: | ikke_: how do you open the mpg files in avidemux? |
[14:30:57] | psofa: | qu0zl, err i was wrong. only onboard devices such as ide sound and eth0 appear as latency 0 |
[14:32:07] | frankrizzo1985: | hey, anyone heard of the transcoder failing with "status 247"? I am running 0.20 under Fedora 5. I have researched it and a couple other people have the same problem |
[14:32:39] | frankrizzo1985: | I tried doing a yum -y update mythtv, and it updated me to what I think is the latest version of 0.20, but it did not seem to help |
[14:33:34] | psofa: | qu0zl, is your mobo a pci express one? |
[14:33:45] | qu0zl: | nope, commel mini-itx pentium-m |
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[14:34:19] | qu0zl: | it's the onboard sound on it that sticks to latency 0, a Intel Corporation 82801DB |
[14:34:30] | psofa: | i suppose the reason i see latency 0 is because the onboard things are connected to pci express (?) as my gfx card which also reports latency 0 |
[14:34:59] | qu0zl: | hmm maybe, but i see a latency 0 for something that's definitely plain old pci |
[14:36:33] | qu0zl: | the annoying thing is that that gentoo stability guide suggests audio and network devices as the ones that really need big latencies/priorities |
[14:36:40] | qu0zl: | and they're the two that you have stuck at 0? |
[14:36:46] | psofa: | yeah :P |
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[14:39:14] | antiPo5ix: | does irsend require a lircd (daemon) running? |
[14:39:22] | antiPo5ix: | or is lircd just for receivind |
[14:39:24] | antiPo5ix: | receiving |
[14:39:27] | seth|laptop: | is there a good sega genesis game emulator for myth? |
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[14:39:50] | antiPo5ix: | gens I think |
[14:39:54] | antiPo5ix: | there are a few actuallyt |
[14:40:44] | seth|laptop: | I am seeing alot of mention in the forums on one called XE |
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[14:41:15] | antiPo5ix: | can I have two seperate lirc_modules running, one for sending, one for receiving |
[14:41:45] | fryfrog: | damn, my dual xeon motherboard wont let me set the latency of the audio or network either |
[14:42:42] | antiPo5ix: | what "device" gets used for blasting(sending) a signal in lirc. |
[14:42:51] | antiPo5ix: | its not /dev/lirc0 is it? |
[14:45:49] | jduggan: | i believe it is |
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[14:59:33] | namuch: | anyone know a graceful way to stop a runaway backend from recording livetv when the frontend aborts abnormally while watching livetv? |
[14:59:51] | antiPo5ix: | killall mythbackend |
[15:00:06] | namuch: | graceful, as in wife-friendly...:) |
[15:00:19] | antiPo5ix: | sends a pleasant SIGKILL (9) |
[15:00:20] | Zider: | as in a flashy button you mean? ;) |
[15:00:22] | r3m0t: | does anybody know how much support mythtv has for LifeView FlyDVB-T and FlyDVB-T Duo? |
[15:00:23] | antiPo5ix: | oh,... |
[15:00:29] | Chicago: | I've been having a problem with mythweb for a while now... I'm seeing "!!NoTrans:" instead of the image icons..... what did I do wrong? |
[15:00:47] | Merlin83b: | r3m0t: Do they work under Linux? |
[15:01:34] | namuch: | i didn't have this problem with versions prior to .20, when the frontend died while watching livetv, the backend would normally quit recording..now it doesn't, and for the life of me I can't anything in the menus to stop the backend from recording under this situation |
[15:02:10] | r3m0t: | Merlin83b: linuxt wiki says yes (I think) http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/PCI_devices_DVB-T third entry in table |
[15:02:25] | r3m0t: | (my other tuner can provide IR) |
[15:02:51] | namuch: | basically, I'm making sure that I haven't overlooked something obvious before I take this to the devs, or submit my own patch |
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[15:03:06] | Merlin83b: | r3m0t: If it works under linux then MythTV will be fine with it. |
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[15:04:28] | Chicago: | I made a snapshot of mythweb looking broken. Does somebody recognize this problem? http://entropyengine.net/images/snapshot1.png |
[15:05:27] | Dagmar: | Chicago: This is just a guess, but "!!NoTrans" might be because you've got the locale set to something other than english |
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[15:05:41] | Chicago: | Dagmar: UTF8 somewhere perhaps? |
[15:06:21] | Dagmar: | That's a charset, not a locale |
[15:06:34] | Dagmar: | But if you're doing something to force the charset, that's probably breaking things |
[15:06:38] | Chicago: | Dagmar: How can I check what you're saying? |
[15:07:23] | Dagmar: | Stop trying to force the charset *anywhere* |
[15:07:32] | psofa: | how does myth choose the buffer space and freq? |
[15:07:52] | Chicago: | Dagmar: Dang... well I have UTF8 and english in my kernel.. and I have just the english locales selected as far as I know. |
[15:07:53] | psofa: | maybe i could increase the alsa buffer? |
[15:08:16] | Chicago: | Dagmar: I just told MySQL to use latin1, and now the searches through the program guide and mythmusic are much faster. |
[15:08:29] | Dagmar: | Chicago: I don't bother to tell MySQL anything |
[15:08:34] | Chicago: | Where can I set my locale to english? |
[15:08:47] | Dagmar: | Are you using some odd language other than English? |
[15:08:55] | Chicago: | no |
[15:09:02] | Chicago: | I'm speakin English |
[15:09:06] | Dagmar: | Then why are you forcing things in MySQL at all? |
[15:09:38] | Chicago: | Gentoo has a USE flag for latin1 charset instead of UTF8... I mistakenly had it assigned to using UTF8. |
[15:12:41] | trevarthan: | Hey, I just used the new mytharchive that ships with Mythtv 0.20 to burn a DVD. It works fine in Xine, but in a commercial DVD player the menus "stick". Once you click them, nothing happens. Sometime it'll work if you FF or press STOP and then PLAY again. Is this a known problem? I had this problem with 0.19's most recent mythburn web interface too. Any ideas? |
[15:13:20] | Dagmar: | Chicago: Something is defintely boned tho.... You might wanna ask xris when he's next on where to look |
[15:13:21] | Dagmar: | // No translation for this string? |
[15:13:21] | Dagmar: | if (!isset($L[$str]) && !(int)($str) && $str != '0') |
[15:13:22] | Dagmar: | return "!!NoTrans: $str!!"; |
[15:13:35] | Chicago: | Dagmar: Is !!NoTrans: a PHP language setting? |
[15:13:52] | Chicago: | meaning... would setting the language correctly for PHP fix the problem. |
[15:13:59] | Dagmar: | It certainly should |
[15:14:20] | Dagmar: | I don't know enough about PHP or MythWeb to know what exactly it's using as an indicator for translations |
[15:14:30] | Dagmar: | I just know that's the code that's emitting those strings |
[15:14:33] | opello: | Dagmar: maybe try injecting some debugging and see what those values are? |
[15:14:49] | PointyPumper: | O.o, thats an ugly thing to do that xD |
[15:14:55] | Dagmar: | opello: That would require I know (or care about) PHP |
[15:15:21] | ** Dagmar is quite happy with mod_perl, thankyouverymuch ** | |
[15:15:58] | Chicago: | Dagmar: I'm on Apache 1... and so I commented out some stuff in the .htaccess for mythweb which looked only relavent to apache2... |
[15:16:13] | Dagmar: | Chicago: You probably don't need to do that |
[15:16:15] | Chicago: | Dagmar: Should I have put those items I removed, into my php.ini instead? |
[15:16:15] | Dagmar: | I know I didn't bother |
[15:16:22] | mikearthur: | mythweb is the worst web application I've ever seen |
[15:16:26] | opello: | Dagmar: well, $L looks like a language array, look up a few lines, see how it's populated |
[15:17:11] | Dagmar: | opello: That much I recognize, but since I don't bother settings translation strings inside Apache (it's something the *browser* is supposed to set) I'm stalled there |
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[15:17:42] | Dagmar: | Chicago: I'm using Slackware's default apache 1.3.37 and I don't modify a bloody thing |
[15:17:51] | Dagmar: | ...as well as it's default php package |
[15:17:57] | Dagmar: | It all "just works" |
[15:18:22] | Dagmar: | ...and believe me it took me WEEKS to get over the idea of running a non-hardened webserver, even on my internal network |
[15:18:30] | opello: | Dagmar: well, it'll have to look at the browsers request headers for the HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE, which would be another thing to search for |
[15:18:34] | Chicago: | I was using Apache 1.3.37 up until yesterday... I back tracked to 1.3.34 because the openssl .98d (the current version) said it supported apache 1.3.34... but it didn't say 1.3.37 |
[15:19:28] | opello: | Dagmar: what file and version, i'll take a quick peek :) |
[15:19:40] | Chicago: | Dagmar: Would it be an apache language setting? OR could it only be a PHP language setting? |
[15:19:59] | Dagmar: | opello: That bit was in includes/translate.php |
[15:20:06] | Dagmar: | I just used a grep -R to find it |
[15:20:48] | Dagmar: | Chicago: You do not normally force a language in either of those. It is not appropriate to do so. |
[15:21:15] | Dagmar: | *Any* language translation done in the web server should be done based on the language the *browser* indicates it can/should use in the incoming query |
[15:21:28] | Chicago: | I have no idea where I would have forced a language. |
[15:21:38] | opello: | Dagmar: can you have it return something else to test? |
[15:21:38] | Chicago: | I build the kernel with english and utf8. |
[15:21:47] | Chicago: | everything else is default default default. |
[15:21:47] | Dagmar: | opello: I am not having the problem, so no. |
[15:22:52] | opello: | who is? |
[15:22:57] | Dagmar: | Chicago is |
[15:22:59] | opello: | i thought you were, ahhh |
[15:23:06] | opello: | well, i'd try: return '!!NoTrans('.$_SESSION['language'].') '.$str.'!!'; |
[15:23:18] | opello: | kick out the language it's trying to use |
[15:23:20] | Chicago: | I'll put that in the top of the index.php |
[15:23:32] | opello: | or just in the return before |
[15:24:17] | opello: | if you're tossing it in the top of the index, use: echo " ".'<!-- language: '.$_SESSION['language'].' -->'." " |
[15:24:18] | Chicago: | opello: Where should I place it exactly, in which file? |
[15:24:22] | Chicago: | oaky |
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[15:24:26] | opello: | then view source to find it |
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[15:26:38] | opello: | Chicago: make sure to put a ; at the end, i forgot |
[15:26:59] | Chicago: | I'm still looking for a good file to drop it into |
[15:27:12] | Chicago: | at the top of mythweb.php wasn't a good place. |
[15:28:00] | juski: | blimmin fucktards sending me unsolicited msgs |
[15:28:20] | opello: | Chicago: schedules, recorded, on of them? |
[15:29:30] | opello: | modules/status/tmpl/default/status.php as a temporary measure... |
[15:29:56] | r3m0t: | (sorry for the very wide question) can anybody recommend a DVB-T card, ideally letting you watch two channels? |
[15:30:10] | r3m0t: | *PCI preferred |
[15:30:12] | juski: | so you need a dual tuner |
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[15:30:23] | seth|laptop: | hdhomerun |
[15:30:33] | juski: | homerun != dvb-t |
[15:30:51] | juski: | you also need to fucking learn your IRC etiquette |
[15:30:53] | seth|laptop: | no dvb-t |
[15:31:33] | r3m0t: | jeez, sorry juski |
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[15:34:16] | ** seth|laptop googles dvb-t as he thought it meant over the air, and appologizes ** | |
[15:35:12] | juski: | dvb-t is terrestrial DVB, so in effect it _does_ come over the air |
[15:35:37] | juski: | r3m0t: Hauppauge do a dual dvb-t tuner which is supported by linux |
[15:35:50] | juski: | and for a list of other cards, go see the wiki at linuxtv.org |
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[15:36:01] | juski: | and keep your questions public in future |
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[15:36:12] | Chicago: | Dagmar: opello: Well... after all that. I found <!-- language: English --> |
[15:36:24] | r3m0t: | juski: I try, but I keep finding that the only way to get those cards is order from abroad |
[15:36:46] | juski: | r3m0t: if it ain't listed on their wiki, it might not even be supported |
[15:37:08] | seth|laptop: | ah, so my air2pc cards are not dvb-t, as they use 8-VSB .vs the European QVSB. So my cards can't be dvb-t, and then in that case hdhomerun is useless. Appologies |
[15:37:36] | ikke_: | mikearthur: from the gui, file -> open ....? |
[15:37:52] | juski: | FYI the reason I get so pissed off with MSGs asking for help is that I'm not solely here for the individual |
[15:37:52] | mikearthur: | ikke_: the previous file was corrupted, hence the confusion |
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[15:38:20] | juski: | messages don't get logged, can't be searched, etc etc etc |
[15:38:55] | juski: | plus it's just plain rude to msg someone out of the blue if you don't know them |
[15:39:25] | r3m0t: | right. btw, the hauppauge offering apparently went under a revision in 2004 and the new cards aren't supported (yet) |
[15:40:04] | Chicago: | r3m0t: You just buy the card and tinker with it till it works. :) |
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[15:40:23] | seth|laptop: | hey, chalk another mythtv convert up for the PG theme. My sister-in-law was down this weekend, for my daughters b-day party, and saw PG running on the mythcenter, and now she wants one for her dish network, rather than upgrading to their dvr product. |
[15:40:47] | antiPo5ix: | PG therme? |
[15:41:10] | antiPo5ix: | Proctor and Gamblehas a theme? |
[15:41:18] | seth|laptop: | yes the PG theme, has so far in my household converted 3 vistors over to mythtv |
[15:41:21] | Chicago: | How do I fix this? http://entropyengine.net/images/snapshot1.png |
[15:41:27] | seth|laptop: | ProjectGrayhem |
[15:41:40] | antiPo5ix: | seth|laptop: are there screenshots of this theme anywhere? |
[15:41:47] | juski: | www.juski.co.uk/pg |
[15:41:52] | antiPo5ix: | seth|laptop: visual improvements over G.A.N.T.? |
[15:41:55] | seth|laptop: | beat me to it ;-) |
[15:42:00] | juski: | lol |
[15:42:03] | seth|laptop: | way better |
[15:42:14] | juski: | better than G.A.N.T. ? always a matter of opinion |
[15:42:16] | seth|laptop: | especially the new version, pretty blue bars |
[15:42:36] | juski: | btw seth|laptop your items were posted saturday |
[15:42:40] | ** seth|laptop always thought G.A.N.T. was kinda boring ** | |
[15:42:53] | seth|laptop: | juski: excellent, thank you! |
[15:42:57] | r3m0t: | Chicago: I'm not that much of a tinkerer... but the linuxtv page suggests it works on recent kernels. highly confusing |
[15:43:00] | janneg: | r3m0t: the new nova-t is supported. juski spoke about the two tuner Nova-T 500 which is supported, but I'm not sure if I can recommend them |
[15:43:21] | Chicago: | r3m0t: haha... linux is not an organized sport. The docs aren't all up to date. |
[15:44:01] | r3m0t: | it merely says "not supported *well*", and also channel changing is slow |
[15:44:06] | opello: | Chicago: hm, guess i'd try getting more info from within that t function, maybe alter the return to: return '!!NoTrans: ' . $str . '!!<!--' . isset($L[$str]) ? 'true,' : 'false,' . !(int)($str) ? 'true,' : 'false,' . $str != '0' ? 'true' : 'false' . '-->'; |
[15:44:13] | janneg: | best way to check if a card is supported is to grep the source for PCI/USB ids |
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[15:44:27] | juski: | the slow channel changes were to do with the driver & nothing else |
[15:44:32] | opello: | Chicago: then after each translated string there will be a comment so you can see which if condition is failing :/ |
[15:44:41] | Chicago: | opello: Would you please tell me a line# and file name you want me to put that into. |
[15:44:46] | Dagmar: | janneg: Or go to http://pciids.sourceforge.net/ |
[15:44:54] | opello: | includes/translate.php 95 |
[15:44:56] | Dagmar: | That's where the pci.ids and usb.ids lists come from |
[15:45:01] | Chicago: | thanks |
[15:45:01] | Dagmar: | ...but it still doesn't much mean anything |
[15:45:14] | r3m0t: | opello: that's some serious ternary operations |
[15:45:16] | Dagmar: | Just because a device is correctly identified doesn't exactly mean it's supported |
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[15:45:27] | opello: | r3m0t: heh, gotta love it |
[15:45:36] | opello: | r3m0t: at least they're not nested |
[15:45:37] | psofa: | buffer_size 4096 in asound.conf is in bytes right? |
[15:45:46] | Dagmar: | If it ain't in that list, you can bet your ass it isn't supported tho |
[15:45:48] | janneg: | Dagmar: that does tell you if the card is supported by the dvb drivers |
[15:45:48] | r3m0t: | opello: I can barely tell ;) |
[15:46:27] | juski: | beware of some twinhan cards – they have insensitive tuners, some of em |
[15:46:35] | r3m0t: | insensitive to what? |
[15:46:50] | juski: | they need stronger signals than other cards |
[15:46:51] | antiPo5ix: | feelings |
[15:47:24] | qu0zl: | psofa, if you're trying to up the buffer sizes used with your sound card then i think the problem is that sound devices have very small internal buffers. So you can't write large chunks to them at once |
[15:47:35] | qu0zl: | that's why they starve so easily |
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[15:47:53] | r3m0t: | juski: I'm in London, so it will probably be fine |
[15:48:12] | psofa: | qu0zl, yes thats what i thought also |
[15:48:20] | juski: | r3m0t: if you're in the UK then you don't need to order any dvb-t card from abroad |
[15:48:22] | Chicago: | opello: It changed from !!NoTrans: To 'true' |
[15:48:47] | juski: | www.scan.co.uk do a good range, as do ebuyer.co.uk |
[15:48:48] | mikearthur: | r3m0t: Get the Hauppage WinTV Nova |
[15:48:49] | opello: | Chicago: i must have whiffed something, hrm |
[15:48:56] | psofa: | anyone knows what does period_size period_time do? |
[15:49:02] | psofa: | in asound.conf |
[15:49:14] | Chicago: | opello: This is the line I used. 'return '!!NoTrans: ' . $str . '!!<!--' . isset($L[$str]) ? 'true,' : 'false,' . !(int)($str) ? 'true,' : 'false,' . $str != '0' ? 'true' : 'false' . '-->';' |
[15:49:16] | r3m0t: | juski: exactly – so many of the cards on the linuxtv page are from abroad |
[15:49:27] | Chicago: | opello: Without the outter quotes. |
[15:49:35] | qu0zl: | psofa, if you look at the output of lspci -v, the first digitl fo the xx:xx.xx is the bus id. You probably have a different one for pci cards vs onboard stay for example |
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[15:49:59] | qu0zl: | so if you're really having hassles with your onboard, then a cheap pci one shouldbe on a different bus, although it'd then have to share with whatever else is on that bus |
[15:50:03] | r3m0t: | ok. time for another question I guess |
[15:50:04] | opello: | Chicago: just view source and find a NoTrans line, grab the text around it and pastebin or pm? |
[15:50:14] | qu0zl: | my motherboard seems to have 2 seperate pci buses for the two expansion slots i have though |
[15:50:44] | r3m0t: | (I already have the WinTV-350 to start everything off) |
[15:50:55] | juski: | oh god |
[15:51:10] | juski: | what possesses people to buy them even now? |
[15:51:28] | r3m0t: | my dad (joint project) bought it. 2/3 years ago. |
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[15:51:39] | juski: | fair nuff |
[15:51:57] | juski: | wouldn't recommend anyone waste their money on one these days |
[15:52:02] | r3m0t: | at the time he thought it did freeview... ha ha ha ha (he's normally good with tech though) |
[15:52:38] | Chicago: | opello: Here's a screenshot. http://entropyengine.net/images/snapshot2.png This is the change to the code on line #95. http://pastebin.ca/247485 |
[15:53:04] | Dagmar: | OMG IT's all true! All of it! |
[15:53:07] | Dagmar: | *snicker* |
[15:53:36] | Chicago: | hehe |
[15:54:22] | r3m0t: | anyway. it's going to be an HDTV system (eventually & theoretically) and he's set on an AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+. for those of you who don't keep up with all those models, "X2" = dual-core, "4600+" = 2.4 GHz. |
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[15:54:29] | r3m0t: | I'm guessing it's overpowered |
[15:54:38] | mikearthur: | r3m0t: waste of money |
[15:54:43] | mikearthur: | X2's overclock crazy amounts |
[15:54:58] | Chicago: | r3m0t: You can do a set-top-box in 32bit. :) |
[15:55:12] | Dagmar: | r3m0t: It literally can't be overpowered if you're doing after-the-fact transcoding |
[15:55:23] | juski: | r3m0t: no HD in the UK yet, officially. you might encounter problems using mythtv with the HD test muxes |
[15:55:41] | juski: | h.264 at HD resolutions are a sod to decode |
[15:56:13] | r3m0t: | yay, I win ;-) ! (he even wants the low-power version to save on fan noise) |
[15:56:59] | r3m0t: | Dagmar: do you mean MPEG-2 to MPEG-4 or DivX, say in the night? |
[15:57:01] | ** seth|laptop needs some good mythtv images for his harmony remot ** | |
[15:57:12] | qu0zl: | how about the low-power core 2 duos r3m0t , if he's mad enough to be paying for all this :) |
[15:57:13] | Dagmar: | r3m0t: yeah |
[15:57:25] | quicksil1er: | burning DVDs is a kind of transcoding, too |
[15:57:31] | quicksil1er: | and it's frustratingly slow |
[15:57:46] | Dagmar: | quicksil1er: That's because it's transcoding before it burns |
[15:57:57] | Dagmar: | Now you see why it's slow |
[15:58:28] | opello: | Chicago: ahh, parenthesize the () |
[15:58:36] | opello: | Chicago: er, the ternary operations |
[15:58:38] | juski: | mythtv doesn't transcode to divx out of the box anyway |
[15:58:42] | r3m0t: | juski: I tried Google, but what's a mux? |
[15:58:53] | quicksil1er: | Dagmar: yes, I know why, but it's slow nonetheless |
[15:58:53] | qu0zl: | a multiplex, multiple channels in a single transport layer |
[15:58:57] | r3z: | a Mux is a way to connect serial terminals |
[15:58:58] | juski: | r3m0t: mux is short for 'multiplex' or 'transponder' |
[15:59:03] | r3z: | generally |
[15:59:11] | quicksil1er: | DVB-T is transmitted with a bunch of channels on a single frequency |
[15:59:13] | quicksil1er: | that's one mux |
[15:59:31] | r3z: | There are alo of other ones |
[15:59:38] | ** r3z reads up ! :-p ** | |
[15:59:49] | r3z: | Hate coming in at the end of a conversation. |
[15:59:56] | juski: | the HD test broadcasts from Crystal Palace take place on two multiplexes – one per channel (!) |
[15:59:59] | r3m0t: | qu0zl: he's one of those irrational anti-Intel people. I think he only accepts them for portables or something random like that |
[16:00:27] | qu0zl: | tell him that a portable cpu is exactly what you want in a htpc :) for noise reasons. the cooler the quieter |
[16:00:32] | Dagmar: | It's hard to forgive all those years of egregious overcharging and heavy-handed licencing |
[16:00:35] | qu0zl: | tell him he needs a merom ;) |
[16:00:40] | juski: | anyway the HDTV trials from Crystal palace are all h.264 & are very taxing to decode |
[16:00:59] | juski: | a 64-bit X2 4600 might manage though ;) |
[16:01:39] | quicksil1er: | I have an X2-capable motherboard |
[16:01:56] | Dagmar: | most 939-pin or AM2 boards are actually X2 capable |
[16:02:04] | quicksil1er: | and I'm vaguely wondering when will be the 'right' time to buy an X2 when they're really cheap but before they go obsolete |
[16:02:10] | Dagmar: | Just a matter of checking the manual or the manuf's website to be sure |
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[16:02:35] | Dagmar: | quicksil1er: How much cheaper do you want them? They just had a massive price drop along with intel about two montsh ago |
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[16:02:51] | Dagmar: | For a few days the 3800+ was $149 and the X2 3800+ was $150 |
[16:02:53] | jduggan: | whats the best way to export a program i've recorded to another machine? |
[16:02:55] | qu0zl: | by the time i can get hdtv the cpu's to decode them will probably be about a tenner. So i'm holding off ;) |
[16:02:58] | Dagmar: | Obviously, I got the X2 3800+ right then |
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[16:03:15] | jduggan: | how do i find the real file/filename |
[16:03:35] | juski: | jduggan: mythrename --link /somedir/foobar |
[16:03:46] | quicksil1er: | Dagmar: I'm trying to check for prices now |
[16:04:02] | r3m0t: | |
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[16:04:20] | Dagmar: | quicksil1er: The stock of the lower-end X2's pretty much is wiped out right now, you may have to start looking in the 4200 and up range. www.pricewatch.com |
[16:04:43] | jduggan: | juski: i have no 'mythrename' |
[16:04:44] | Dagmar: | The prices on them have actually gone UP because of scarcity. |
[16:04:57] | Dagmar: | Everyone and their brother jumped on them when the X2 3800+ was only $150 |
[16:05:04] | juski: | jduggan: yeh you do. in the contrin directory |
[16:05:10] | quicksil1er: | I'm seeing UKP115 + vat for 4200, or UKP139+vat for 4600 |
[16:05:22] | quicksil1er: | but I'm wondering when will they start phasing out 939s completely |
[16:05:27] | Dagmar: | The X2 3800+ AM2 is about the only one you're going to find for a non-inflated price in that series right now |
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[16:05:57] | jduggan: | quicksil1er: they already started phasing out socket 939 |
[16:06:15] | r3m0t: | Dagmar: but you just said there was a massive rush to get the 3800, then you said the price is still reasonable? |
[16:06:44] | quicksil1er: | jduggan: right. So I should try to pick one up soon-ish? |
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[16:07:08] | juski: | anyway.. time to escape |
[16:07:35] | Dagmar: | r3m0t: Only on the AM2 version. The 939-pin version has actually gone up since then, if you can find them at all |
[16:08:55] | r3m0t: | oh, we're getting the AM2. I think only the AM2 has a 65W TPW option |
[16:09:01] | r3m0t: | oh, right |
[16:09:08] | Dagmar: | The 4000's are still somewhat sane, and the 4200's haven't been inflated at all |
[16:09:10] | r3m0t: | misread, sorry. sorry also for the two short messages |
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[16:11:38] | jduggan: | in mythtv-setup->channel editor i up'd all the color and contrast settings but its made it worse, dont suppose there's a quick way to revert this back to default without having to go through *every* channel and resetting it? :P |
[16:13:14] | MnDBnDr: | can someone help me with .20 and scanning with a twinhan starbox 2 |
[16:13:30] | MnDBnDr: | I am getting timeout — no tables errors |
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[16:15:10] | brad_mssw: | is there a way to tell mythfilldatabase to _not_ remove channels from zap2it ? I use the same listing source for pulling Firewire off my digital cable box as I do for QAM tuning via my HD5500 card, the problem is the HD5500 can only pick up a fraction of the channels, and after running mythfilldatabase, it sets zap2it to _only_ have those channels selected, even though the same listing is used for both sources |
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[16:16:51] | brad_mssw: | I see a --remove-new-channels option to mythtv, and that appears to be the culprit, but it appears to be 'always on', as I'm not passing it to 'mythfilldatabase', and there is no way to turn it off |
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[16:19:09] | fryfrog: | brad_mssw: you'll need two channel line ups |
[16:19:27] | fryfrog: | brad_mssw: otherwise, it won't know that your hd5500 *can't* tune them |
[16:20:00] | fryfrog: | I have a very similar setup, my air2pc cards use a "broadcast" line up (with xmltv ids filled in) and my firewire tuners use another lineup |
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[16:20:17] | ** r3z cant get my damned ATI Remote Wonder working :( ** | |
[16:20:25] | r3z: | Anyone familiar with one of these? |
[16:20:57] | brad_mssw: | fryfrog: hmm, zap2it won't let you to add 2 profiles for the same channel listing |
[16:21:08] | brad_mssw: | fryfrog: did you just create a second zap2it account? |
[16:21:22] | opello: | you can have multiple lineups in zap2it |
[16:21:46] | brad_mssw: | opello: yes, but not 2 of the same lineup ... I've got COX Analog and COX Digital right now ... you can't have 2 COX Digital lineups |
[16:21:54] | brad_mssw: | opello: it errors out |
[16:21:56] | opello: | ohh |
[16:22:50] | MnDBnDr: | please can someone help me with scanning issues with a usb starbox II |
[16:23:23] | fryfrog: | brad_mssw: no, i have multiple line ups |
[16:23:38] | fryfrog: | brad_mssw: but i *did* use the 'ota' lineup for my 6 HD channels on the air2pc cards |
[16:23:49] | fryfrog: | i picked a real cable line up for the firewire one |
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[16:24:29] | fryfrog: | you can't actually *tune* the hd channels on the hd5500 with the line up right? |
[16:24:33] | fryfrog: | you have to scan and bind it? |
[16:24:36] | qu0zl: | r3z, is that an RF not IR remote? |
[16:24:39] | brad_mssw: | fryfrog: yeah, can't use OTA as there are some non-OTA channels available via QAM :/ |
[16:25:13] | qu0zl: | i have a remote wonder II if i remember right. You can either use lirc with the ati_usb module or the remote wonder I actually has a standard kernel module that supports it but isn't as good as the lirc module |
[16:25:18] | brad_mssw: | fryfrog: yeah, the channels are different, I had to manually bind the ids, and did my scan using dvbscan to find the channels |
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[16:29:36] | jduggan: | hmm anyone know a tool for merging two avi files together, preferably in a debian testing package? :P |
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[16:34:20] | brad_mssw: | jduggan: you can do that with mencoder, using the 'copy' method, assuming codecs used for audio and video are the same |
[16:34:31] | brad_mssw: | jduggan: otherwise you'd need to let it transcode it |
[16:34:43] | brad_mssw: | (mencoder comes with mplayer) |
[16:35:19] | r3z: | qu0zl, I think its RF |
[16:35:24] | jduggan: | yea i just found 'avimerge' which comes with the transcode package |
[16:35:34] | r3z: | LIRCD is setup to use it but when I run irw I do not get any respoinse |
[16:35:40] | r3z: | LIRCD is setup to use it but when I run irw I do not get any respoinse when I press a button |
[16:35:56] | r3z: | if I run the app mode2 and press a button it sees it but I dont know what its connecting too. |
[16:36:37] | r3z: | My remote just says ATI Remote Wonder not Remote Wonder II |
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[16:40:06] | qu0zl: | r3z, have you got the right config in your lirc.conf? |
[16:40:11] | r3z: | Ya |
[16:40:39] | r3z: | I have even tried the unique=2 command in the config and changed the remote port to 2 and no worky |
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[16:40:53] | qu0zl: | try making your own with irrecord maybe? The default one didn't work with my remote wonder I (I had one of them too ages ago) |
[16:41:12] | qu0zl: | if the config doesn't match your remotes codes then nothing will get to irw |
[16:41:15] | r3z: | I wish I knew how to tell which /dev/lircdevice so I could see it working. |
[16:41:20] | r3z: | hrm |
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[16:41:30] | qu0zl: | tbh if irw isn't making lircd exit you probably have the correct device |
[16:41:43] | qu0zl: | if you point it at the wrong device and run irc then lircd just silently dies normally |
[16:41:45] | qu0zl: | which is nice |
[16:41:51] | qu0zl: | irw, not irc :) |
[16:42:06] | AsteriskMonkey: | is there any core myth developers that live in canada? |
[16:43:50] | ** r3z is waiting on the wife to be able to press a button ** | |
[16:44:00] | r3z: | the box is at home and I am ssh'd in but she has to control the remote :-p |
[16:44:11] | r3z: | if I run IRW i get nothing' |
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[16:44:17] | r3z: | So you think my config is just shot? |
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[16:46:14] | qu0zl: | at a guess, yes r3z . Test it with irrecord – make a simple 1 button cfg and try that |
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[16:46:41] | r3z: | then copy to /etc/lircd.conf and kill lircd and run lircd with that config? |
[16:46:55] | qu0zl: | yep, then run irw, and press the one button you've configured |
[16:47:13] | r3z: | Firt thing it asks for is an arbitrary button |
[16:47:35] | psofa: | anyone knows if myth has problems with alsa output? |
[16:47:40] | qu0zl: | yeah, that means any button r3z :) |
[16:47:59] | r3z: | Im aware :-p |
[16:48:03] | qu0zl: | ;) |
[16:48:07] | ** r3z cant find his any key ** | |
[16:48:10] | qu0zl: | hehe |
[16:48:27] | ** r3z feels bad that he actually thought so low of him. ** | |
[16:48:30] | r3z: | heh |
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[16:48:36] | psofa: | im getting AO: audio waiting for space on soundcard: have 1152 need 6144 .I increased the buffer size to the max however it didnt make a difference |
[16:49:22] | r3z: | Anyone run MythDora? |
[16:49:23] | qu0zl: | hehe sorry r3z , you mightn;t have been a native english speaker. My bad :) |
[16:49:32] | ** r3z is in the US :-p ** | |
[16:49:39] | r3z: | Just moved to Indianapolis from Atlanta actually. |
[16:49:47] | qu0zl: | see! not a native english speaker ;) |
[16:49:55] | r3z: | Then again just because I am in the US doesnt mean anything |
[16:50:00] | r3z: | hah |
[16:50:06] | r3z: | I am assuming your in the UK then huh? |
[16:50:08] | r3z: | :-p |
[16:50:47] | qu0zl: | nah ireland, but we've the queen's english too. Whether we wanted it or not ;) |
[16:50:53] | ** r3z still needs to see if his Svideo out works on his nvidia card. ** | |
[16:51:15] | r3z: | The company I work for has a branch that handles our Ireland support. |
[16:51:56] | r3z: | www.doubletake.com |
[16:52:00] | r3z: | Shameless plug! |
[16:54:18] | ** r3z has the dual tuner PVR-500 I want it to act like a Tivo so if it is recording one show and I change channels will it default to the other tuner or will I have to switch manually to the other tuner? ** | |
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[16:58:41] | qu0zl: | if it's recording a channel then when you go into live tv it'll use the other tuner even to watch that same channel. You have to go to view recordings to watch a currently recording channel |
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[17:05:35] | MnDBnDr: | can someone help me with scanning with a starbox II |
[17:05:47] | MnDBnDr: | I am getting timeout — no tables errors |
[17:05:54] | MnDBnDr: | driver issue? |
[17:06:07] | MnDBnDr: | can scan with dvbscan either |
[17:09:12] | juski: | if you can't scan with dvbscan, then it's probably a driver issue. give up trying with mythtv until you've successfully scanned with dvbscan |
[17:09:30] | MnDBnDr: | ok |
[17:09:37] | MnDBnDr: | that makes sense |
[17:10:03] | r3z: | qu0zl, How can I swap between tuners realtime? i.e. Im watching channel 2 and want it to keep caching and want to swap to channel 4 for a sec without losing my progress? |
[17:10:05] | r3z: | Can I? |
[17:10:40] | Dagmar: | Nope |
[17:10:52] | Dagmar: | Not without telling it you want to record the program you're watching. |
[17:11:16] | r3z: | bleh |
[17:11:16] | r3z: | ok |
[17:11:24] | r3z: | Didnt know if there was a way to do that |
[17:11:37] | Dagmar: | Of course, that will bump it out of the LiveTV category |
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[17:11:50] | Dagmar: | ...which means you just have to go to the recorded programs list to go back to it |
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[17:20:41] | quicksil1er: | r3z: well there's picture-in-picture, too |
[17:20:46] | quicksil1er: | r3z: if you have 2 tuners |
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[17:21:46] | r3z: | Ya havent got to play with that yet :) |
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[17:23:26] | quicksil1er: | r3z: to record the progrma you're currently watching you just stab 'R' I think |
[17:23:46] | quicksil1er: | and you have a recording from the time you starting watching up until the end, in principle |
[17:23:52] | quicksil1er: | if your listings data is right |
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[17:25:32] | r3z: | ya |
[17:25:42] | r3z: | qu0zl, the irrecord did it. |
[17:25:48] | r3z: | Config was wrong |
[17:25:50] | qu0zl: | cool |
[17:25:53] | r3z: | Thanks |
[17:25:56] | qu0zl: | np |
[17:26:14] | r3z: | I thought it was some connection problem so didnt even think of the config other than it might be connecting to the wrong port |
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[17:26:25] | r3z: | Now I have to teach the device tonight |
[17:26:30] | r3z: | You know a listing of MYth Commands? |
[17:26:53] | r3z: | I know like CH_UP and CH_DOWN and VOL_UP and COL_DOWN but |
[17:26:56] | qu0zl: | i use mythweb to configure them |
[17:27:14] | quicksil1er: | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-11.html#ss11.1 |
[17:27:22] | quicksil1er: | list of most of the commands |
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[17:27:28] | quicksil1er: | and points you to the text file which contains ALL of them |
[17:27:40] | r3z: | Cool |
[17:27:41] | r3z: | Thanks dude |
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[17:29:03] | juski: | ooo we'll have new buttons for mythmusic too |
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[17:37:07] | ** seth|laptop wishes his old buttons worked ** | |
[17:38:00] | juski: | back to the old problem. how to represent abstract concepts pictorially |
[17:38:24] | seth|laptop: | juski: what pixel size are the watermarks in PG |
[17:38:25] | seth|laptop: | ? |
[17:38:40] | juski: | seth|laptop: something like 305 square |
[17:38:54] | juski: | whoops. 350 px square |
[17:39:00] | seth|laptop: | hmm, I need to shrink them down, and implement them as a screensaver for my remote control |
[17:39:12] | seth|laptop: | gimp will do that correct? |
[17:39:21] | juski: | they're GPL, so you're allowed to do that ;) |
[17:39:27] | juski: | yeh |
[17:39:54] | seth|laptop: | I'll have to try that tonight |
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[17:40:07] | juski: | actually if you want any of the graphics I used in them I can let you have them without the background |
[17:40:48] | juski: | I'll convert all the vectors to raster & save it as a psd |
[17:41:25] | seth|laptop: | what I need to end up with is a 128x160 jpeg file |
[17:42:47] | seth|laptop: | rather 160h 128w |
[17:42:56] | juski: | 128x128 would work best then |
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[17:43:31] | juski: | right let's see how the psd file comes out |
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[17:45:27] | juski: | hey not bad |
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[17:45:34] | juski: | gimme a sec & I'll upload it for you |
[17:45:51] | juski: | then all you need do is open the file in GIMP & select the layers you want then save as jpg |
[17:46:36] | seth|laptop: | cool, thanks |
[17:47:21] | juski: | http://www.mythtvtalk.com/ProjectGrayhem/imag . . . termarks.psd |
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[17:47:29] | juski: | they ya go. no trouble |
[17:48:03] | juski: | when I do my watermarks I create one file with loads of layers, then just enable & disable them to depict the stuff I want |
[17:48:20] | juski: | saves a _lot_ of work |
[17:49:21] | qu0zl: | Juski, is your nvidia xorg.conf online anywhere? You were saying you have perfectly smooth onscreen tickers. mine are pretty poor with my nvidia 5200 |
[17:49:51] | juski: | qu0zl: had nowt to do with my xorg.conf |
[17:49:58] | juski: | all nvidia-settings |
[17:50:16] | qu0zl: | cheers, i'll fiddle with that more so |
[17:50:34] | juski: | no tv-out working up here right now |
[17:50:51] | qu0zl: | heh, constant state of flux :) |
[17:50:56] | juski: | bit busy pillaging from free photo collections |
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[17:52:25] | juski: | how the hell do you make a pictograph of 'advanced' ? |
[17:52:49] | juski: | I know I've done it before but it wasn't so convincing, and the ones I drew myself for PG never quite looked as good as the others |
[17:53:04] | opello: | a welding torch? heh |
[17:53:16] | opello: | er, cutting, maybe |
[17:53:30] | juski: | actually you've given me an idea. just something complicated will do |
[17:53:32] | juski: | :) |
[17:53:37] | opello: | yay |
[17:54:00] | juski: | 'categories'... previously I represented this with different shapes |
[17:54:18] | juski: | oh now wait... a kiddie's shape sorting toy! |
[17:54:35] | seth|laptop: | juski: I see it has 50 layers, but I do not see how to extract them |
[17:54:47] | juski: | seth|laptop: just enable/disable each one in turn |
[17:54:59] | juski: | you'll need to select the 'layer' view window |
[17:55:58] | juski: | I'm gonna have to make a script to save each layer group as a file according to the group name eventually |
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[17:56:13] | opello: | juski: square shape above the round hole |
[17:56:31] | opello: | with a mallet above :) |
[17:56:37] | opello: | there's an 'advanced' picture :D |
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[17:58:47] | juski: | lol |
[17:58:56] | juski: | for noobs maybe |
[17:59:57] | opello: | :p |
[18:00:07] | seth|laptop: | gimp is just the neatest thing |
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[18:04:35] | frankrizzo: | does anybody have any ideas for getting "status 247" error while transcoding, I am running 0.20 on fedora 5 |
[18:04:49] | frankrizzo: | all the posting I have seen in the arhcive have no solution |
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[18:10:31] | telenieko: | Hi, my EIT info contains some strange characters (latin1 I supose) how can I tell mythtv that? I only get weird stuff on program info ;) |
[18:12:05] | seth|laptop: | thanks juski, now even my remote has the PG theme, hehe |
[18:12:44] | juski: | seth|laptop: put the files up on a webpage then.. spread the joy |
[18:13:22] | seth|laptop: | they will be on my LUG's wiki, and I will post them to my site, as part of the global howto. Done and done. |
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[18:20:04] | netrix: | just upgrade to 2.6.18 so i can see if it makes a difference with my samsung pvr500. i can cat the video devices, but mythfrontend won't start anymore. any ideas? |
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[18:20:29] | netrix: | the frontend just gives me a black screen then takes me back to the main menu. |
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[18:21:09] | lotia: | folks anyone know if i can run 4/5 hd tuners on the same machine? |
[18:21:46] | seth|laptop: | lotia: I think your only limitation would be the amount of pci slots, and irq's available |
[18:22:00] | seth|laptop: | I run 3 in the same box |
[18:22:00] | xris: | and pci bandwidth |
[18:22:03] | lotia: | seth|laptop: actually going to do hdhomerun. |
[18:22:04] | seth|laptop: | yeah |
[18:22:17] | seth|laptop: | oh, then all you need is ip addresses |
[18:22:24] | seth|laptop: | and bandwidth on the lan |
[18:22:28] | lotia: | seth|laptop: any issues with disk performance? |
[18:22:32] | lotia: | have gige on the lan |
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[18:23:09] | seth|laptop: | well you're definitley going to have some heavy io, maybe build a slave machine for half of them, with independent drives |
[18:23:31] | seth|laptop: | my master has 350GB and my slave has 250GB |
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[18:23:34] | lotia: | also anyone on here who has any experience with sky in the UK and a myth box |
[18:23:51] | jduggan: | yes thanks |
[18:24:07] | lotia: | seth|laptop: can't build a second box. atm. |
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[18:24:27] | lotia: | does your 3 tuner box also do playback duties? |
[18:24:57] | r3z: | Gonna have a nice beefy machine with 4–5 HD tuners if they are all recording |
[18:25:01] | seth|laptop: | hmm, well I would have to look at my io, when I am recording and playing back, the hd led's pulse regularly |
[18:25:04] | r3z: | s/Gonna/Gotta |
[18:25:28] | lotia: | r3z: machine is decently beefy |
[18:25:49] | seth|laptop: | lotia, I only ever playback one stream at a time, but I have already been recording 2 shows on different channels, and watching another live |
[18:26:00] | seth|laptop: | I didn't see a real performance hit |
[18:26:46] | lotia: | seth|laptop: yeah, not likely to playback more than a single stream at a time. hd and wireless don't seem to work terribly well. |
[18:26:50] | seth|laptop: | my drives are lowly PATA 7200 rpm variety, perhaps some screaming SATA drives with a good cache would preform much better |
[18:27:02] | jduggan: | 2006-11–13 18:27:51.546 MPEGRec(/dev/video0) Error: select timeout – ivtv driver has stopped responding |
[18:27:13] | lotia: | i have 2x250 SATA 300 and will add a 750 SATA |
[18:27:23] | jduggan: | why would this happen? first time its happened ever and im getting the same error a few times today now |
[18:28:06] | psofa: | does this sound ok? |
[18:28:08] | psofa: | 2006-11–13 20:16:33.397 in SetParameters(format=2, channels=1, rate=48000, buffer_time=500000, period_time=125000) |
[18:28:08] | psofa: | 2006-11–13 20:16:33.398 set_period_time_near returned 21333 |
[18:28:08] | psofa: | 2006-11–13 20:16:33.398 get_period_size returned 1024 |
[18:28:26] | psofa: | shouldnt set_period_time_near return sth like 125000? |
[18:29:13] | fryfrog: | HD read/write speeds aren't going to matter much for HD, in theory |
[18:29:15] | lotia: | even if i have 5 streams going thats 20Mbps x 5 = 100Mbps, disk should easily keep up with that. specially since these are sequential writes. |
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[18:29:31] | fryfrog: | HD is like 2mb / sec, most modern hard drives are like 40mb/sec min |
[18:30:22] | seth|laptop: | well that is good to know |
[18:30:35] | fryfrog: | I can write 4x HD streams at once, 2 of them over 1000mbit and 2 locally to one raid5 array |
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[18:31:01] | seth|laptop: | I doubt I will need more than 3 hd cards, but its nice to know I can, actually only 2 are on the master, the other one is on the slave in the office |
[18:31:08] | fryfrog: | but yeah, *wireless* is probably not going to be up to streaming more than 1 or so |
[18:31:47] | seth|laptop: | I can stream HD with wireless, as long as I am not more than 30 feet (10 meters) from the router |
[18:32:01] | seth|laptop: | anything beyond that, and I get pause |
[18:32:09] | seth|laptop: | s/pause/pauses |
[18:32:26] | seth|laptop: | only one feed thoguh |
[18:32:31] | seth|laptop: | though even |
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[18:32:53] | seth|laptop: | I can stream 2 SD feeds from just about anywhere though |
[18:33:01] | fryfrog: | i'm not surprised :) |
[18:33:14] | fryfrog: | HD would be like 2mb/sec sustained, sd would be like... 0.25mb/sec? |
[18:33:32] | fryfrog: | I'd bet the new -N wireless would be okay |
[18:33:39] | seth|laptop: | question, what is the "Internal" players command. Like for mplayer it was mplayer, for xine it was xine, and so on |
[18:33:43] | fryfrog: | or perhaps network over power line? |
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[18:33:50] | fryfrog: | blank, i'm pretty sure/ |
[18:33:57] | fryfrog: | or there is a check box for "internal player" i think |
[18:33:59] | fryfrog: | one of the two |
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[18:34:46] | seth|laptop: | well I have a demo button on my harmony remote, I would like it to play juski's LWmythpromo, but I don't want the script to have to use mplayer, I was just wondering if the new player had a "cli" per se |
[18:35:34] | ** seth|laptop wonders if any one can tell he has a big mythtv demo coming up, for many people...... ** | |
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[18:38:35] | jams: | seth|laptop- you could use the myth internal player. mythtv filename_to_play should do it |
[18:38:45] | seth|laptop: | cool thanks |
[18:38:59] | jduggan: | hrmpf, two hard drives, one as a media hd (divx movies/music) and one as the myth hd (recordings) when uploading ~8 gig onto the machines media hd sends server load high and makes livetv jump, is this normal? the machine is like 2ghz/1gig ram |
[18:39:44] | kormoc: | jduggan, depends on your ide controler and if DMA is enabled on the drives |
[18:39:53] | jduggan: | yea dma is enabled |
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[18:40:19] | kormoc: | jduggan, and a quick speed test shows good speeds? (hdparm -t /dev/hdx) |
[18:40:22] | jduggan: | probably this cheap ass SiS controller |
[18:40:23] | jduggan: | yea |
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[18:40:35] | kormoc: | then yeah, it's likely the controler |
[18:40:45] | kormoc: | sis has never really been... happy |
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[18:41:15] | kormoc: | there's a reason they're so dirt cheap :P |
[18:43:13] | jduggan: | heh yea i didnt buy this hardware |
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[18:44:38] | jduggan: | it was a deprecated machine.. 2ghz P4.. which was apparently 'too slow to even run windows anymore' as quoted by my partners parents |
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[19:01:07] | fryfrog: | jduggan: how *much* cpu usage? |
[19:01:36] | fryfrog: | and is the "media" and "mythtv" drive on the same chain (master / slave on sham channel) |
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[19:04:18] | psofa: | 2006-11–13 20:16:33.397 in SetParameters(format=2, channels=1, rate=48000, buffer_time=500000, period_time=125000) |
[19:04:23] | psofa: | 2006-11–13 20:16:33.398 set_period_time_near returned 21333 |
[19:04:28] | psofa: | shouldnt set_period_time_near return sth like 125000? |
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[19:04:55] | PeterC: | Could someone point me in the right direction to instructions on how to configure SPDIF (Debian, onboard Intel HDA, ALSA)? |
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[19:07:03] | fryfrog: | did you try debian's docs? or alsa? |
[19:07:14] | fryfrog: | or do you mean *myth's* settings? |
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[19:09:13] | PeterC: | fryfrog: Sorry, I forgot to mention that I first want to configure for Debian, then for MythTV. Yes, I have looked at Debian's and ALSA's docs. |
[19:09:52] | juski: | SPDIF is called IEC958 if that's any help |
[19:11:01] | PeterC: | juski: No, not really. |
[19:11:30] | seth|laptop: | I am not familiar with Intle HDA |
[19:11:44] | seth|laptop: | intel even |
[19:12:32] | seth|laptop: | I know to get my IEC958 to work, I had to unmute it in alsamixer, and also while there turn the output volume of IEC958 to "0" to get it to work |
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[19:12:42] | PeterC: | aplay -l gives me: "**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** card 0: au8820 [au8820], device 0: AU88x0 ADB [adb] card 0: au8820 [au8820], device 3: AU88x0 WT [wt]" |
[19:13:20] | seth|laptop: | yeah, thats way different than anything I have. |
[19:13:21] | PeterC: | This I think means that I have device 0 and 3 on card 0 |
[19:13:49] | seth|laptop: | taht makes sense, the digital is usually device 3 if that helps |
[19:15:09] | PeterC: | seth|laptop: OK, so do I have to change anything in .asoundrc then? |
[19:15:24] | brad_mssw: | my iec958 is device 2 |
[19:15:42] | brad_mssw: | so i wouldn't even say usually |
[19:16:10] | brad_mssw: | though there 'usually' is a named mapping made automatically for you, so you don't have to reference the ids |
[19:17:18] | seth|laptop: | PeterC: what shows up in alsamixer? |
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[19:19:27] | PeterC: | seth|laptop: Master, Master Mono, PCM, Line, CD, Mic, Mic Boost, Mic Select, Video, Phone, PC Speaker, Aux, Mono Out |
[19:20:02] | brad_mssw: | PeterC: you'd probably be better off giving the bottom output of aplay -L |
[19:20:29] | brad_mssw: | there should be mappings in there for somethings, you may see a 'iec958' device listed, or a 'spdif' device |
[19:21:13] | brad_mssw: | nevermind, you gave aplay -l |
[19:22:05] | seth|laptop: | PeterC: my alsamixer has IEC958 references, I see from yours, that it does not. |
[19:22:06] | brad_mssw: | well, aplay -L might actually be helpful |
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[19:22:40] | brad_mssw: | seth|laptop: IEC958 is specifically optical digital ... don't know what would show if you have the coax digital |
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[19:23:06] | brad_mssw: | most likely his driver doesn't support the digital out, or perhaps the bios has disabled it, and he needs to go into his bios to enable it |
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[19:26:38] | PeterC: | Trying to use pastebin. Hang on |
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[19:31:52] | PeterC: | help pastebin |
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[19:37:30] | PeterC: | OK, here we go: http://pastebin.ca/247676 |
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[19:38:23] | seth|laptop: | I use the coax spidf, but that was going to be my next question, I had to update alsa to 1.0.12 to get my spidf to work |
[19:38:56] | r3m0t: | is the graphics card (out) particularly important? I can't find much information about it. does *it* do the upscaling of e.g. DVDs to HD? |
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[19:40:21] | kormoc: | r3m0t, usually, yes, via XV |
[19:40:32] | mcquaid: | I've had a couple of scheduled recordings abort, is there a log or anything to check as to the reason? |
[19:40:34] | kormoc: | r3m0t, but any newish card (6200 or higher) will work fine |
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[19:40:49] | PeterC: | seth|laptop: I use coax and my alsa is 1.0.13 |
[19:40:52] | kormoc: | mcquaid, /var/log/myth* |
[19:41:06] | mcquaid: | ok, ill check there thx |
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[19:41:44] | mcquaid: | btw, I like the feature of tagging a video where I left off to watch the rest at a later time, is there a way to make that automatic, so I don't have to remember to tag it? |
[19:42:20] | mcquaid: | and also, I noticed logging in with another client had the same tags, I would think this is a feature that should be client specific |
[19:45:53] | Anduin: | mcquaid: Yes, in one of the settings pages you can tell it to do it when you exit and clear when you enter, and no, it is a global state shared across all frontends |
[19:46:50] | mcquaid: | ok thx, I was looking for that but I'll look again, I think it's kind of strange for that to be global |
[19:47:20] | r3m0t: | kormoc: that's nvidia, yes? |
[19:47:40] | psofa: | juski, are you around? |
[19:47:58] | mcquaid: | where one user is left off in a movie is not where another user is left off, but I guess from the pov of one user being able to roam using mulitple clients |
[19:48:05] | juski: | psofa: yo |
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[19:49:07] | psofa: | could you check mythfrontend -v all and see if during a dvb playback you get messages like AO: audio waiting for space on soundcard: have 1440 need 6144 |
[19:49:35] | juski: | I know a trick you can try you know |
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[19:50:00] | juski: | go into recording profiles & change the default one to 'tv only' for your DVB recordings |
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[19:50:18] | Joffray: | there you go |
[19:50:20] | juski: | I had playback issues which none of the audio bufferring stuff would fix |
[19:50:27] | needhel1: | Hi |
[19:50:36] | needhel1: | Can anyone guide me through a MythTV setup ? |
[19:50:41] | juski: | I think the problem is extra packets getting through when they shouldn't |
[19:50:46] | juski: | needhel1: no |
[19:50:55] | Joffray: | needhel1: check the wiki |
[19:51:00] | psofa: | juski, ill try it |
[19:51:00] | Joffray: | http://wiki.mythtv.org |
[19:51:00] | juski: | needhel1: ask questions |
[19:51:10] | needhel1: | when just starting mythtv, I get "Could not connect to the master backend server" |
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[19:51:22] | juski: | check the FAQ too |
[19:51:34] | juski: | seriously that question comes up a _lot_ |
[19:51:51] | juski: | did you run mythtv-setup? |
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[19:52:12] | Joffray: | juski: yea, I agree |
[19:52:16] | Joffray: | kinda make me want to make a script |
[19:52:23] | Joffray: | to fix it |
[19:52:37] | needhel1: | yes ive run mythtv-setup, but dont know whats wrong there |
[19:52:56] | juski: | did you change the ip addresses from 127.0.0.1 by any chance? |
[19:53:10] | needhel1: | its still 127.0.0.1 |
[19:53:31] | juski: | are you on ubuntu? |
[19:53:34] | needhel1: | yes |
[19:53:36] | needhel1: | 606 |
[19:53:37] | juski: | haha |
[19:53:40] | juski: | right |
[19:53:44] | needhel1: | haha? |
[19:53:54] | juski: | what do you _think_ the 'mythtv' mysql user's password is? |
[19:54:26] | Joffray: | needhel1: what does the console say? |
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[19:54:41] | juski: | anyway regardless of that, the mythtv-database installer script generates a random password & saves it in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt |
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[19:55:09] | juski: | and in ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt I expect the password will disagree to what's in the first (/etc/mythtv/mysql.txt) file |
[19:55:51] | juski: | check the contents of both files & tell me what you see, needhel1 |
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[19:57:14] | needhel1: | running command 'mythtv' gives this at the console: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31491/ |
[19:57:44] | juski: | needhel1: will you just do what I suggested please? |
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[19:58:51] | needhel1: | mythtv-database: command not found... whats the command? |
[19:58:55] | juski: | the pasted text you just gave us tells me the password for the mythtv user isn't in the mysql.txt file which hides in the .mythtv directory within the home dir of the user you're running mythtv as |
[19:59:07] | juski: | needhel1: look in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt |
[19:59:14] | juski: | the password you want is in there |
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[19:59:27] | juski: | make a note of it & copy that password into ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt |
[19:59:40] | needhel1: | password is oydnuutt |
[19:59:53] | needhel1: | ok |
[19:59:59] | juski: | okay so edit ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt & put that password in there |
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[20:00:05] | juski: | where it says password= |
[20:00:42] | kuse: | Is it possible to get a detailed list and show full filename instead of large icons in the "file browser" for videos? |
[20:00:47] | juski: | and you shouldn't really have pasted the password – but that's my fault for assuming you wouldn't take me so literally.. heh |
[20:01:03] | juski: | kuse: try the 'list' view |
[20:01:06] | needhel1: | lol.. sorry |
[20:01:24] | kuse: | juski: where do I set the list view? |
[20:01:24] | needhel1: | now copied the password into that mysql.txt file |
[20:01:28] | juski: | needhel1: don't worry it can be changed later |
[20:01:38] | juski: | kuse: press M (or your MENU) button |
[20:01:47] | juski: | (it's in the manual) |
[20:02:06] | juski: | hahaha www.juski.co.uk/new11.png I can't be serious |
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[20:04:48] | needhel1: | ok, I ran 'mythtv' again, now a new config window appears. Shoould I leave it with default settings? |
[20:05:03] | needhel1: | host, db, user, pwd, db type |
[20:05:37] | juski: | if those settings are correct, yes |
[20:06:02] | needhel1: | Use custom identifier for frontend preferences? |
[20:06:14] | needhel1: | nevermind |
[20:06:25] | kuse: | juski: Is there any more detailed manual then the one on the homepage? |
[20:06:37] | Joffray: | kuse: wiki.mythtv.org |
[20:07:24] | juski: | a lot of work is going on to make mythtv easier to set up on ubuntu btw |
[20:07:51] | needhel1: | I get error in the console now that is was unable to connect to database |
[20:07:57] | juski: | the installer script randomising the mythtv mysql user's password, and NOT telling the user is bad ;) |
[20:08:36] | juski: | in which docs does it say the frontend command is 'mythtv' by the way? |
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[20:09:08] | needhel1: | hmm... not sure, thats just a guess I guess |
[20:09:45] | needhel1: | mythfrontend gives same result |
[20:10:13] | needhel1: | also mythbrowser |
[20:10:31] | juski: | did you put the _actual_ password into the password box when you first ran 'mythtv' ? |
[20:10:43] | needhel1: | lemme c... |
[20:10:53] | juski: | look in ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt |
[20:10:55] | PeterC: | brad_mssw: I have looked in BIOS and there is nowhere I can find anything related to SPDIF. |
[20:11:09] | needhel1: | yes, its the same pwd |
[20:12:02] | needhel1: | dbname=mythconverg |
[20:13:14] | juski: | hmmm |
[20:13:20] | juski: | is mythtv-backend running? |
[20:13:39] | juski: | ps -ef |grep mythtv-backend ;) |
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[20:15:17] | needhel1: | I think not |
[20:15:50] | kuse: | Are there separate themes for the plugins? |
[20:15:52] | needhel1: | I tried to start it with 'mythbackend': access denied for root.... failed to init 'MythContext' |
[20:16:14] | Ballsy: | FC5 w/Hauppauge PVR150. lirc seems to load fine (accoding to /var/log/messages), but I get NO output from `irw`. Copied .lircrc to .mythtv/lircrc and wasn't quite sure what to do with /etc/lircd.conf. Any hwlp ? |
[20:16:20] | juski: | needhel1: sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start |
[20:16:49] | psofa: | juski, no difference for me :( |
[20:16:59] | juski: | psofa: ach well. |
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[20:17:58] | juski: | needhel1: you know there are lots of ubuntu howto guides out there. |
[20:18:24] | juski: | the wiki.mythtv.org ones are very good and so is the one on the ubuntu pages |
[20:19:47] | needhel1: | juski: that gave me this new message: "Starting MythTV server: mythbackendSession management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed" |
[20:20:39] | juski: | needhel1: that's pretty normal |
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[20:21:03] | needhel1: | so, should I try 'mythtv' again now? |
[20:21:06] | juski: | needhel1: if you now do a ps -ef |grep mythtv-backend you should see that it's running |
[20:21:32] | needhel1: | no |
[20:21:34] | juski: | the command you want to be using btw is mythfrontend |
[20:21:51] | juski: | needhel1: some simple stuff is still screwed then |
[20:21:53] | needhel1: | found only "grep mythtv". |
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[20:22:27] | juski: | whoah hang on |
[20:22:30] | needhel1: | yes, something else must be screwed |
[20:22:32] | needhel1: | k |
[20:22:34] | juski: | try ps -ef |grep mythback |
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[20:23:20] | juski: | the init command is called mythtv-backend but the process should be just plain old mythbackend |
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[20:24:59] | juski: | a few other questions which might come up shortly so let's get them out of the way now |
[20:25:25] | juski: | sod it we'll deal with them as we come to em |
[20:26:04] | needhel1: | found just the grep command itself |
[20:26:14] | juski: | so mythbackend isn't running |
[20:26:19] | needhel1: | seems so |
[20:26:32] | juski: | lots of things can stop mythbackend running |
[20:26:58] | juski: | 1. not having the right database privileges set up – but the mythtv-database installer script (which runs when you install mythtv) should have taken care of that |
[20:27:19] | juski: | 2. not having the tuner hardware confirmed as working outside mythtv & then set up correctly in mythtv |
[20:27:48] | juski: | 3. the directory to store recordings doesn't exist or its permissions are incorrect |
[20:27:53] | juski: | .... |
[20:27:53] | juski: | etc |
[20:28:21] | needhel1: | hmm... what should I try then? |
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[20:29:23] | needhel1: | whats that mythtv-database installer script? I dont have it, but I do have mythfillatabase.... probably not the same? |
[20:29:31] | Joffray: | no |
[20:30:18] | needhel1: | k |
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[20:31:47] | juski: | ok. what have you done so far? installed mythtv.. then you ran mythtv-setup |
[20:31:52] | needhel1: | I dont know about 2. and 3. but maybe its 1., as I told you there was some authentication failures while trying to start the backend. (but you claimed it was just normal) |
[20:31:58] | needhel1: | yes |
[20:32:11] | juski: | have you already confirmed your tuner card works? |
[20:32:30] | needhel1: | it worked on another computer using Windows |
[20:32:36] | juski: | in linux |
[20:32:53] | needhel1: | never tried it before |
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[20:33:00] | juski: | what kind of tuner card is it? |
[20:33:07] | juski: | evening stuarta |
[20:33:18] | stuarta: | evening juski :) |
[20:33:53] | needhel1: | Medion TV-tuner 7134 / Rev ctx917_v.1 dvb-t/tv/fm |
[20:34:08] | juski: | needhel1: ok. do ls /dev/dvb |
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[20:34:25] | juski: | anything there? |
[20:34:29] | needhel1: | No such file or di |
[20:34:30] | needhel1: | r |
[20:34:46] | juski: | needhel1: so the drivers don't work / aren't loaded. no point continuing with mythtv |
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[20:35:24] | needhel1: | I see, gotta install the tv tuner card first |
[20:35:35] | juski: | which also answers the questions I was going to ask about whether or not you selected the right kind of tuner card in mythtv-setup ;) |
[20:35:40] | Henkie: | hi, is there a tool to clean up the DB? |
[20:35:58] | juski: | Henkie: check the 'maintenance' section of the mythtv wiki |
[20:36:07] | needhel1: | hmm. okay. How do I install a TV tuner in gnu ? |
[20:36:12] | Henkie: | i have a couple of undeletable recordings |
[20:36:18] | Henkie: | juski, tnx, i'll have a look |
[20:36:21] | juski: | needhel1: what does lspci say? |
[20:36:43] | juski: | Henkie: touch the files that don't exist (check the backend logs for the filenames) then delete em normally |
[20:37:08] | juski: | needhel1: a pastebin would be good for that ;) |
[20:37:33] | needhel1: | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31502/ |
[20:37:46] | needhel1: | I dont know what of it is about the tv-tuner |
[20:38:47] | juski: | needhel1: it's probably just that ubuntu hasn't loaded the kernel modules for the tuner automatically |
[20:38:53] | Joffray: | 05. 0000:00:0c.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7134 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01) |
[20:39:11] | juski: | so for a dvb tuner based on that chipset... erm... |
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[20:39:38] | juski: | sudo modprobe saa7134-dvb |
[20:39:49] | Henkie: | juski, only file mentioned in my logs is "file not found", and after creating it mythtv segfaults :) |
[20:40:29] | juski: | Henkie: exit the 'watch recordings' menu before creating the file, or make sure the ghost recording isn't still selected |
[20:41:10] | needhel1: | done modprobe |
[20:41:16] | juski: | needhel1: now do ls /dev/dvb |
[20:41:52] | juski: | god I said we don't do walkthroughs in here, and wtf am I doing? :) |
[20:41:55] | needhel1: | found adapter0/, contains demux0, dvr0, fronted0, net0 |
[20:42:00] | juski: | needhel1: good |
[20:42:10] | juski: | needhel1: now you'll want that module to load every time you boot up |
[20:42:12] | needhel1: | youre just giving support :) |
[20:42:17] | needhel1: | sure |
[20:42:24] | juski: | so add saa7134 to /etc/modules |
[20:42:37] | fryfrog: | nah, a walkthough is telling you *exactly* what to type :/ |
[20:42:57] | fryfrog: | the question is, do you understand what and why you are doing it? or are you just doing what he tells you? |
[20:43:14] | juski: | /etc/modules is the list of kernel modules you want ubuntu to load at boot time – ones it won't detect that it needs to load automatically |
[20:43:26] | needhel1: | fryfrog: I understand most of it |
[20:43:44] | juski: | anything you don't understand, ask... I don't like repeating myself a few weeks later |
[20:43:47] | juski: | :-P |
[20:43:54] | needhel1: | sure:-) |
[20:44:19] | juski: | you added saa7134 to /etc/modules yet? |
[20:44:22] | needhel1: | yes |
[20:44:24] | juski: | right |
[20:44:31] | juski: | now apt-get dvb-utils |
[20:44:43] | juski: | this is the bit where you test the hardware in linux |
[20:45:14] | needhel1: | E: invalid operation dvb-utils |
[20:45:23] | fryfrog: | apt-get install |
[20:45:26] | fryfrog: | dvb-utils |
[20:45:38] | juski: | see this page: http://www.parker1.co.uk/mythtv_ubuntu.php |
[20:45:44] | fryfrog: | (justi forgot the *install*) |
[20:45:53] | juski: | scroll down to Install the Test Software |
[20:46:02] | juski: | it's not a walkthrough :-P |
[20:46:05] | needhel1: | installed |
[20:46:18] | juski: | right. where do you live? |
[20:46:29] | r3m0t: | what do people use to decide which distro their mythtv box will run off? I'm between FC, Deb and Ubuntu. don't mean to start a flamewar here |
[20:46:56] | juski: | r3m0t: we use whichever distro we like best |
[20:46:59] | fryfrog: | Lots of stuff, but the #1 would be familiarity i think |
[20:47:14] | needhel1: | norway |
[20:47:17] | juski: | I used to use Gentoo up til a few weeks ago |
[20:47:28] | fryfrog: | If you are starting from zero, FC or Ubuntu would probably be safe choices |
[20:47:29] | r3m0t: | OK, that would be ubuntu for me then (familiarity) |
[20:47:36] | D-side: | i used to use gentoo as my backend up until yesterday. :) |
[20:47:41] | juski: | needhel1: okay. you're next going to scan for channels. make sure an antenna is plugged into the tuner. |
[20:47:52] | fryfrog: | I'm still on Gentoo, but have vague goals of moving to Ubuntu :) |
[20:48:08] | juski: | needhel1: the command 'scan' will be used here, but it needs an initial tuning file to tell it where to look first |
[20:48:15] | fryfrog: | D-side: do you do anything besides mythbackend on your master backend? |
[20:48:22] | xris: | yay for me finally getting a backtrace for the fc6 ffmpeg bug |
[20:48:27] | juski: | the initial tuning files are in /usr/share/doc/dvb-utils/examples/scan/dvb-t/ |
[20:48:29] | needhel1: | but I think the backend is still not running... |
[20:48:33] | D-side: | fryfrog: not really. i'll try mytharchive on it actually. |
[20:48:37] | juski: | needhel1: nevermind that for now |
[20:48:37] | fryfrog: | The one thing that holds me back is having to setup samba, apache and all the other stuff :( |
[20:48:41] | D-side: | fryfrog: it'll be doing quite a bit of transcoding also. |
[20:48:43] | xris: | nuvexport may eventually run in fc6 |
[20:48:56] | D-side: | fryfrog: and i went from gentoo to ubuntu (edgy) |
[20:48:56] | juski: | xris: yay indeed :) |
[20:48:59] | fryfrog: | D-side: oh, my master backend is also my main ser |
[20:49:11] | r3m0t: | everybody's leaving gentoo :O |
[20:49:32] | fryfrog: | D-side: though I *do* have my system as raid1, so maybe i can install on a degraded raid 1 and if i like it join the old disk to the degraded |
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[20:49:37] | juski: | needhel1: so in /usr/share/doc/dvb-utils/examples/scan/dvb-t/ will be ... oh fuck it's not |
[20:49:45] | fryfrog: | if i don't, i can just boot from the old raid1 and add the ubuntu one back to gentoo |
[20:49:48] | xris: | r3m0t: kormoc would never leave |
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[20:49:59] | juski: | needhel1: there's no initial tuning file for norway in the dvb-utils package I have here |
[20:50:19] | fryfrog: | I <3 gentoo, but it gets annoying having to fix stupid tiny little problems all the time :/ |
[20:50:23] | juski: | needhel1: ok... breaking the habit of a lifetime... |
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[20:50:30] | juski: | needhel1: run mythtv-setup |
[20:50:39] | needhel1: | so i live in wrong country ? |
[20:50:47] | fryfrog: | yes, now you have to move :) |
[20:51:01] | juski: | needhel1: no it's just that the tuning file for norway didn't make it into this release of dvb-utils |
[20:51:08] | fryfrog: | its okay, I used to live in Usbekistania, had to move to use MythTV :) |
[20:51:32] | Ballsy: | Can someone tell me where settings for start channels are stored ? I have a set-top satellite box, so I config mythtv to use channel 3. But after a reboot, it doesn't appear to have been saved, as the channel is now blurred (ie. snowy) |
[20:51:36] | juski: | I'd move just to live in the country Borat comes from :-P |
[20:51:41] | juski: | Ballsy: in the database |
[20:51:48] | needhel1: | fryfrog: lol |
[20:51:53] | fryfrog: | Ballsy: mythtv-setup i think? |
[20:52:00] | fryfrog: | but what do you mean by "start channel"? |
[20:52:21] | fryfrog: | Do you mean, you *always* need to tv card to tune to channel 2 *and* you change channels with an external script to a STB? |
[20:52:34] | juski: | needhel1: set up your tuner card in mythtv-setup. you should select the type DVB ! :) |
[20:52:39] | fryfrog: | or that you have a STB and you'd like myth to tune it to channel 3 at startup? |
[20:53:06] | needhel1: | juski: Im running mythtv-setup and leaving to default options. After the two steps, the console gives me lots of errors saying it couldnt connect to database |
[20:53:20] | juski: | oh crap |
[20:53:24] | Ballsy: | fryfrog, the latter (although, channel '3' here is just the channel that mythtv should listen on for input from my card. That actual channelw on't change. |
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[20:53:47] | juski: | needhel1: look in ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt & make sure the password agrees with the one in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt again |
[20:53:51] | Henkie: | juski, tnx, finally those pesky recordings are gone :) |
[20:53:55] | fryfrog: | Erm, when you say "latter" then what you say matches up against what you mean "former" :/ |
[20:54:09] | fryfrog: | Can you describe your setup and what you need it to do? |
[20:54:26] | fryfrog: | or you can just run mythtv-setup if that answers your question about where it is |
[20:54:43] | needhel1: | juski: passwords matches all 3 places |
[20:57:01] | needhel1: | mythtv-setup sais this at the console: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31518/ |
[20:57:46] | Ballsy: | fryfrog, sure. FC5, PVR150 with the allegedly 'newer' remote (which will be my next question.....) Ran mythtv-setup and handled the Video Sources and Capture Cards appropriate. Then wentto Input Connections, selected Tuner 1, set the preset tuner channelto 3, fetched channels from source listin'..... |
[20:57:54] | ** stuarta likes planet earth in HD ** | |
[20:58:36] | tez1: | afternoon..... I have a pvr 150, cable is connected to the s-video, and satellite to tuner, can I bring in two seperate tv listings and relate them to the correct input? |
[20:58:55] | Joffray: | cable to s-video |
[20:59:02] | Joffray: | hmph |
[20:59:05] | Joffray: | yea you should |
[20:59:08] | tez1: | yup |
[20:59:10] | Ballsy: | fryfrog, then when I exit the mythtv-setup program, it warns that 'Card 0 (type ) is set to start on channel 199, which does not exist. Wold you like us to fix it?" |
[20:59:28] | tez1: | was looking at the db, both inputs list the sourceid as 2 |
[20:59:45] | tez1: | oh yeah both are external boxes |
[21:00:04] | r3z: | qu0zl, you here/ |
[21:00:16] | juski: | wtf is ubuntu running mythtv-setup as root?! |
[21:00:38] | r3z: | Anyone familiar with irrecord |
[21:00:40] | juski: | needhel1: which user are you doing stuff as? |
[21:00:41] | r3z: | ? |
[21:02:14] | needhel1: | juski: No, I ran mythtv-setup as user |
[21:03:01] | fryfrog: | Ballsy: ah, then I think you need to look for the "startup" channel to tune to |
[21:03:19] | needhel1: | I've tried running it as root, but that gave me same errors |
[21:03:34] | fryfrog: | Ballsy: It *should* be in the same place where you specified that you need to tune to channel 3, but this spot is what channel myth tunes the STB to when it starts. |
[21:03:40] | needhel1: | Or do you mean the db-user should not be root ? |
[21:04:05] | fryfrog: | Ballsy: Also, I'm not sure if you have any other options... but using the *tuner* as input for an STB is probably the lowest possible quality you can get |
[21:04:21] | fryfrog: | Ballsy: I *think* RCA would be better looking, and I *know* svideo would be |
[21:05:59] | juski: | needhel1: the db user should be 'mythtv' |
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[21:06:27] | Ballsy: | fryfrog, but if I'm going coax from the STB to my PVR150, I'd set that setting to 'Tuner', yes ? |
[21:07:08] | needhel1: | juski: root was default. Ill try change it on all places then |
[21:07:10] | juski: | Ballsy: do you like mono sound? |
[21:07:29] | juski: | needhel1: root should never be the default db user |
[21:08:07] | juski: | stuarta: that show was made for HD :) |
[21:08:09] | xris: | juski: any reason you wrote your own UK icon grabber instead of using the existing master_iconmap stuff? |
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[21:08:29] | stuarta: | juski: so far i have 5 episodes i'm saving for the next linux expo :) |
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[21:08:53] | Ballsy: | juski, do you always answer questions with questions ? |
[21:08:55] | juski: | xris: 1. I didn't know about it and 2. since finding out about it I couldn't find a howto for it |
[21:08:58] | Ballsy: | Doh. I just did. |
[21:09:02] | juski: | Ballsy: lol |
[21:09:08] | tez1: | ballsy I had the same problem a while back |
[21:09:23] | xris: | juski: --help :) |
[21:09:27] | tez1: | have the fix for it, I am looking it up ... may take me a few minutes though |
[21:09:32] | fryfrog: | stuarta: what show? |
[21:09:45] | juski: | Ballsy: if you use an RF connection, you'll only ever get _mono_ sound, which sucks as much as it being poorer video quality than composite or svideo |
[21:09:53] | stuarta: | fryfrog: planet earth |
[21:09:56] | fryfrog: | Ballsy: yes, I think you have it setup right |
[21:09:59] | xris: | if you already have the iconmap.xml file, you can just import it straight into the db |
[21:10:05] | juski: | xris: anyway I didn't know about it |
[21:10:09] | fryfrog: | is that a discovery show? |
[21:10:17] | juski: | so I reinvented the wheel with some perl-fu :) |
[21:10:24] | stuarta: | fryfrog: bbc, it'll end up on discovery |
[21:10:32] | fryfrog: | ah |
[21:10:38] | juski: | you'll be telling me next there was already a script to let me export dvb radio shows to mp3 |
[21:10:44] | Ballsy: | ujuski, understood (I think), b ut the Svid out on my STB already goes direct to my TV, so that's not an option.... |
[21:10:48] | xris: | any chance you can get me an iconmap.xml from your config? Then I can just import it in and consolidate everything |
[21:10:52] | stuarta: | xris: it was really as task to get juski to learn perl :-P |
[21:10:54] | r3z: | Frickin Toggle Bit isnt working for my remote so its jumping like 3 channels at a time |
[21:11:00] | xris: | lol |
[21:11:10] | juski: | that was some weekend. pffffffffft |
[21:11:17] | r3z: | I run mode2 and it says code0000 I made 0000 my toggle bit but still nothing |
[21:11:19] | ** stuarta was joking :) ** | |
[21:11:30] | juski: | r3z: so change the repeat amount in your lircrc file then |
[21:11:33] | fryfrog: | Ballsy: Ah, well you know mythtv is meant to *replace* your connection to the TV |
[21:11:53] | fryfrog: | Ballsy: I would *strongly* recommend getting it working with svideo, it'll be *much* nicer looking |
[21:11:56] | Ballsy: | fryfrog, which it very well may do....but not until it's all working 'well'. :) |
[21:12:04] | fryfrog: | Ballsy: in the mean time, you can always do the cable swap dance :) |
[21:12:06] | juski: | stuarta: makes no difference. i can't remember how it works now anyway prolly |
[21:12:20] | fryfrog: | Ballsy: yeah, thats true :( |
[21:12:28] | stuarta: | hehe map url -> channel name :) |
[21:12:40] | fryfrog: | Ballsy: you *can* pretty safely ignore that "start channel doesn't exist" error |
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[21:12:43] | juski: | anyway does anyone know of a way to change the drawing order of theme.xml so the icon isn't always on top? |
[21:12:44] | fryfrog: | anyway, time to go home |
[21:12:59] | tez1: | Ballsy: the issue can be solved by "ivtv-tune -c 3" |
[21:13:13] | juski: | xris: since hearing about the iconmap thing it became evident there's already a UK one |
[21:13:31] | needhel1: | juski: Ok, I've changed user from root to mythtv. And have entered mythtv-setup |
[21:13:31] | tez1: | I set up a script in the Autostart dir to run that, then the frontend |
[21:13:39] | stuarta: | although i believe it's incomplete |
[21:13:47] | juski: | needhel1: so there's no errors now? amazing eh? |
[21:14:18] | Ballsy: | tezl, AHA. Yes....I've used that a few times today. Good call. Any idea why that setting isn't being saved on reboots ? Should I just call an external scipt on reboots to issue it ? |
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[21:14:20] | juski: | well at least no 'couldn't connect to database' errors anyway.. always a plus point |
[21:14:49] | needhel1: | juski: never say never, theres still some errors (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31523/), but it at least it doesnt stop me from entering the menu |
[21:14:49] | xris: | juski: any chance you can point me at a copy? |
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[21:14:57] | tez1: | Ballsy: sorry no idea, it pissed me right off, everything else I tried failed |
[21:15:08] | tez1: | since implementing this the issue went away |
[21:15:08] | juski: | xris: if I ever find it again yeah sure |
[21:15:14] | r3z: | My remote is sending 2 at a time. |
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[21:15:31] | Joffray: | you need to specify no-repeat |
[21:15:33] | juski: | r3z: that's what the 'repeat' lines in licrc are to counteract |
[21:15:36] | r3z: | The repeat amount was up to 5 |
[21:15:50] | r3z: | I changed to 10 and still no worky |
[21:16:00] | The_Belgain: | hi there – quick question regarding a problem i have recreating an sql database from backup |
[21:16:12] | Joffray: | ok |
[21:16:19] | needhel1: | juski: can I ignore those errors at the link? |
[21:16:56] | The_Belgain: | i'm trying to import an sql dump from a previous mythtv install using "mysql -u root -p < mythtv_backup.sql" – it's failing with error 1046, No database selected |
[21:16:58] | juski: | needhel1: yeah you should be fine |
[21:17:10] | needhel1: | juski: I select Cardtype=DVB, cardnumber=0, DVB: /dev/video0 |
[21:17:10] | juski: | The_Belgain: you need to tell it to use mythconverg |
[21:17:19] | The_Belgain: | that sql file was created my running an SQL dump on my old setup |
[21:17:23] | juski: | e.g. mysql -u root -p mythconverg < mythtv_backup.sql |
[21:17:37] | juski: | needhel1: good so far |
[21:17:46] | r3z: | juski, even tried to change it to 2 in the .licrc file |
[21:17:50] | Ballsy: | tez1, well, ivtv-tune worked again (thanks for the reminder). Will reboot again later to see if it's lost again, and if so, will call it externally on boot. |
[21:17:59] | Joffray: | or mysql -uroot -ppassword -Dmythconverg < backup.sql |
[21:18:00] | The_Belgain: | now it complains of "unknown database" |
[21:18:23] | Joffray: | The Belgain: login, create the database 'mythconverg' and try again |
[21:18:25] | juski: | The_Belgain: edit the .sql file and add a 'create database mythconverg' line |
[21:18:29] | Joffray: | or that |
[21:18:31] | Joffray: | ;) |
[21:18:38] | juski: | at the top! |
[21:18:58] | juski: | jees we're on fire tonight |
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[21:19:11] | tez1: | Ballsy: yup thats is what I do, created a script to set the ivtv-tune -c 3 and followed it with mythfrontend, slapped it in .kde/Autostart |
[21:19:22] | juski: | 2 more watermarks to do, then they're all done! (ish) |
[21:19:43] | The_Belgain: | should i be doing this before or after installing mythtv by the way (i'm installing from a .deb on ubuntu edgy)? |
[21:19:51] | juski: | The_Belgain: before |
[21:19:54] | The_Belgain: | ta |
[21:20:13] | juski: | well, before you run any mythtv app for sure |
[21:20:19] | Ballsy: | If I have an STB, do I absolutely HAVE to use a command for 'external channel change command' in mythtv-setup ? Incidentally, changing channels isn't working |
[21:20:35] | tez1: | yup |
[21:20:38] | juski: | Ballsy: how else would mythtv change the STB channel? |
[21:20:46] | juski: | by symbiosis?! |
[21:20:51] | seth|laptop: | you could use 2 remotes, hehe |
[21:21:13] | seth|laptop: | my channel_changhe.sh runs via ssh from the slave |
[21:21:18] | seth|laptop: | its slow, but it works |
[21:21:22] | Ballsy: | juski, so.....I've seen no reference to such a list of possible commands......any idea where I'd look ? |
[21:21:34] | juski: | Ballsy: what do you mean? |
[21:21:50] | needhel1: | juski: I can enter mythfrontend and come to the mainmenu, but when I select Watch TV, it still asks for the backend |
[21:21:57] | needhel1: | Which still isnt running |
[21:21:57] | juski: | I meant reinstate the db backup before you start mythbackend, run mythfrontend or mythtv-setup |
[21:22:07] | Joffray: | needhel1: you need to start mythbackend |
[21:22:12] | juski: | needhel1: you have not finished doing mythtv-setup yet! |
[21:22:17] | tez1: | Ballsy: I use an IR sender, it has a script that will change the chan. I call the script with mythtv |
[21:23:02] | Ballsy: | tez1, as do I...it came as part of the hauppauge pvr150 .... hrmm.... |
[21:23:13] | juski: | the steps of mythtv-setup are not usually optional.. jees |
[21:23:19] | tez1: | hmm I didn't use that sender though..... |
[21:23:29] | The_Belgain: | that seems to be working – thanks for the help guys |
[21:23:35] | tez1: | I think I did at one time, briefly |
[21:23:37] | Joffray: | I believe that's a receiver, not a IR blaster |
[21:23:47] | tez1: | ahhh |
[21:23:48] | The_Belgain: | i'm guessing it's supposed to take a while to import the database file right? |
[21:23:53] | tez1: | that explains it....<g> |
[21:23:55] | Ballsy: | tez1, isn't that what lircd is for though? |
[21:23:55] | needhel1: | juski: okay, which options should I change? |
[21:23:56] | The_Belgain: | the sql file's about 170MB |
[21:24:22] | juski: | needhel1: you need to set up the general page first where you tell it stuff like where to put recordings etc |
[21:24:26] | tez1: | nope I use LIRC for the remote. to control myth's functions |
[21:24:30] | juski: | then you need to tell it about your capture cards |
[21:24:37] | juski: | then you need to create a video source |
[21:24:48] | juski: | then you scan for channels... |
[21:25:00] | frankrizzo: | has anyone here dealt with the transcoder failing with "status 247", I am on 0.20 on fedora 5, I have looking in the mailing list archive, but everyone else having this problem seem to have found no solution |
[21:25:21] | tez1: | if a channel change is required, you can use lirc to send the number to myth, myth then needs a way to send a signal to the stb, that is where the sender comes in to play |
[21:25:22] | juski: | I had some transcodes fail with status 232 the other day |
[21:26:16] | Ballsy: | tez1, understood. And for what it's worth, th is all worked GREAT under Windows. :P The IR xmitter is taped to the front of my STB.....but now I need to figure out how to get Myth to send a signal to it.... |
[21:26:38] | juski: | http://www.blushingpenguin.com/mark/blog/?p=19 |
[21:26:39] | tez1: | ahhh so maybe I did use it at one time....... |
[21:26:44] | juski: | Ballsy: ^^^^ |
[21:27:30] | needhel1: | juski: Video source setup -> which channel freq table should I pick for Norway? Default? |
[21:27:52] | juski: | which one did you select in the 'general' page? |
[21:28:02] | tez1: | Ballsy: I seem to recall, I could be wrong, that there was an issue with a driver for the included sender and that is why I bought an additonal sender to use |
[21:30:31] | needhel1: | juski: okay, using west europe for both now. It sais this: "unable to retrieve channel info for your provider." Terminal sais this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31527/ |
[21:31:22] | juski: | needhel1: you need to install xmltv |
[21:31:33] | juski: | sudo apt-get install xmltv |
[21:31:38] | Joffray: | beat me to it |
[21:31:42] | Joffray: | time for CS class |
[21:31:48] | juski: | oh and I just remembered the norwegian grabber is broken |
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[21:33:07] | juski: | needhel1: you need to try using EIT data from the dvb-t card. there's an option in the video source setup page to only use transmitted guide data. select that then proceed to scan for channels |
[21:33:21] | Ballsy: | juski, that URL is telling me to install a much older version of lirc, and is referencing version 0.4.0 of ivtv (which is old as well(..... |
[21:34:15] | juski: | Ballsy: the concept will be the same. ignore the stuff about installing software |
[21:34:22] | juski: | the point is about getting the blaster to work |
[21:34:25] | Ballsy: | juski, nevermind...skipping that stuff and moving to the blaster section....*nods* |
[21:34:46] | juski: | reading between the lines is an essential linux skill :-P |
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[21:35:28] | juski: | I'm pooped. going for a couch sesh to watch mythtv :) |
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[21:36:59] | stuarta: | later juski |
[21:42:00] | clop: | hi, im having trouble with the lirc install. i have a pvr-350 so i am using lirc_i2c, and I have the module installed with modprobe, but when I run mode2 it says, mode2: error opening /dev/lirc, no such file or directory... any ideas? |
[21:42:08] | needhel1: | juski: Ive gone through 1–4 now. Only channel editor left. But channels was installed during Video sources |
[21:42:48] | Ballsy: | *sigh* NO output from `irw`. lsmod shows lirc stuff and ivtv stuff all loaded. Tried 3 different /etc/lircd.conf files to no avail. irw shows nadda. |
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[21:44:17] | Anduin: | clop: Did lirc_i2c actually find the device? |
[21:44:40] | clop: | it say the following in dmesg: |
[21:44:45] | clop: | lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, at major 61 |
[21:44:51] | clop: | lirc_i2c: chip found @ 0x18 (Hauppauge IR) |
[21:44:55] | clop: | lirc_dev: lirc_register_plugin: sample_rate: 10 |
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[21:47:51] | Anduin: | clop: ls -l /dev/lirc* |
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[21:48:34] | clop: | Anduin, ah, quite strange, i have /dev/lirc0 but not /dev/lirc |
[21:48:40] | clop: | should i make a symlink? |
[21:49:31] | Anduin: | clop: No, just use the -d options (or whatever it is) |
[21:49:51] | clop: | ok, great, mode2 seems to work on that with -d... but irw still says, "connection refused" when i run it |
[21:50:17] | Anduin: | clop: lircd running (with the right device)? |
[21:51:15] | clop: | i can start lircd, but i'm not sure how to tell it which device to try? |
[21:51:28] | Anduin: | clop: same way |
[21:51:47] | clop: | so /etc/init.d/lircd -d /dev/lirc0? |
[21:51:59] | Anduin: | clop: No, not that same |
[21:52:08] | clop: | heh :) |
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[21:52:29] | Anduin: | clop: to test just lircd -d /dev/lirc0 |
[21:52:37] | MikkelRev: | Why wont the backend start? |
[21:52:59] | MikkelRev: | sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start gives this: Starting MythTV server: mythbackendSession management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed |
[21:53:07] | clop: | Anduin, wonderful! that works! |
[21:53:10] | MikkelRev: | ps ax | grep myth gives nothing |
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[21:55:18] | kormoc: | MikkelRev, that message is normal and can be disreguarded |
[21:55:30] | kormoc: | so you'll need to check the logs and see what's up |
[21:56:14] | MikkelRev: | wheres the logfile? |
[21:56:40] | kormoc: | check in /var/log/ |
[21:58:35] | MikkelRev: | Alright, heres the log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31537/ |
[21:59:09] | kormoc: | MikkelRev, you should take a look at it and do what it says... |
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[22:00:00] | MikkelRev: | Done it |
[22:00:09] | kormoc: | and? |
[22:00:17] | MikkelRev: | It tells me to check if certain directories are readabla, and they are |
[22:00:26] | kormoc: | actually, no it doesn't |
[22:00:34] | MikkelRev: | they have right permissions and user |
[22:00:35] | kormoc: | "the directory and that file are writeable by this user." |
[22:00:45] | kormoc: | writable is different then readable |
[22:00:53] | MikkelRev: | yes, same user running the program who owns the dirs and is able to write to them |
[22:01:35] | kormoc: | erm, you sure that the init.d script isn't changing the user from root to mythtv or similar? |
[22:01:50] | kormoc: | as if it had the correct permissions, it wouldn't be giving an error |
[22:02:44] | clop: | Anduin, is there a file I can configure so that the /etc/init.d/lircd script starts it with the right device? |
[22:02:56] | Ballsy: | I'm desperate to get some input from `irw` if somone has a sec. Hauppauge PVR50 card with the 'newer' remote (4 colour buttons at bottom of remote). Desperate for lirc(d) help I guess. |
[22:03:23] | czth: | how do people generally transfer files between devices? e.g. if i want to watch a saved mpg on my laptop... using the wireless connection... can i stream it, or do i have to burn a DVD? |
[22:03:48] | kormoc: | czth, I would watch it via samba/nfs personally |
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[22:03:54] | GreyFoxx: | same here |
[22:04:17] | MikkelRev: | kormoc: Im running them as a user. Do I have to add a user corresponding to the mysql user ? |
[22:04:24] | czth: | speaking of samba/nfs, which do people find most efficient? or is the only question "will you need to access it from windows machines"? |
[22:04:40] | czth: | does samba need to transfer the whole file before accessing it? |
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[22:04:55] | kormoc: | MikkelRev, no, you don't, but what user does the backend startup as? when you do sudo, it allows the backend to change to any user it wants... |
[22:05:01] | kormoc: | czth, no, it doesn't |
[22:05:04] | ** netrix got his PVR500 w/ Samsung tuners working ... and they don't look like ass anymore! ** | |
[22:05:18] | kormoc: | czth, and yeah, if you need windows, then it's samba, else nfs |
[22:05:28] | czth: | hm, i'll setup samba on my myth machine then, since i do usually run my laptop in windows |
[22:05:29] | The_Belgain: | anyone here using a Compro VideoMate 200 DVB card? |
[22:05:51] | The_Belgain: | on mythtv 0.20 in Ubuntu edgy it's showing up as analogue under MythTV? |
[22:05:55] | MikkelRev: | kormoc: yes, but I didnt start the backend with sudo either, just with a ordinary user... |
[22:05:56] | czth: | NFS is supposed to have fun and exciting locking issues, do those exist or are they mainly academic? |
[22:06:17] | kormoc: | <MikkelRev> sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start gives this |
[22:06:19] | czth: | Coda or AFS don't seem far enough along for production use |
[22:06:28] | Anduin: | clop: Last I looked you had to edit the lircd init file directly |
[22:06:32] | kormoc: | MikkelRev, you said differently eariler |
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[22:06:52] | MikkelRev: | ooopps... sorry, I said wrong |
[22:07:06] | kormoc: | czth, I run nfs just fine personally, it can have locking issues, but it's not really common in my understanding |
[22:07:10] | MikkelRev: | yes I am running the backend as root |
[22:07:23] | juski: | re |
[22:07:30] | kormoc: | MikkelRev, and thus, the backend could change to be user mythtv or what not, and thus not get permissions on the said directory. |
[22:08:19] | MikkelRev: | so you think the dbuser mythtv is trying to write to a directory owned by a os user ? |
[22:08:23] | kormoc: | MikkelRev, you could try doing chmod -R 777 /path/to/dir and then see if the backend will start |
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[22:09:36] | MikkelRev: | tried it, no diff |
[22:09:42] | clop: | Anduin, thanks a lot for all the help, I edited the init script and now it works fine |
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[22:10:16] | MikkelRev: | the backend still wont start |
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[22:13:51] | kormoc: | MikkelRev, the error being? |
[22:14:01] | kormoc: | mikearthur, exactly the same? |
[22:15:11] | MikkelRev: | kormoc: theres no serious error when trying to start the backend, but nothing happens. ps ax | grep myth only shows the grep line itself |
[22:15:24] | kormoc: | and the logs say? |
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[22:19:54] | MikkelRev: | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31552/ |
[22:24:46] | MikkelRev: | I have given it 777 perm |
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[22:28:59] | Ballsy: | Anyone have a Hauppauge PVR 150 card using FC5 with the remote and the whole 9 yards ? MythTV seems to function fine, but I can't change the channel via keyboard OR via remote. No output when using `irw`. lirc mods all being loaded, etc. |
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[22:29:31] | czth: | um, i have a PVR-150 but I'm using the MCE remote |
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[22:29:40] | czth: | and Gentoo, not FC5 |
[22:30:08] | MikkelRev: | kormoc: any ideas? |
[22:30:40] | Ballsy: | czth, you don't happen to have a set-top cable/satellite box, do you |
[22:30:41] | Ballsy: | ? |
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[22:33:22] | czth: | nope |
[22:33:23] | kormoc: | MikkelRev, try rm /home/dani/videos/mythtv//nfslockfile.lock and rerunning it |
[22:33:28] | czth: | just standard US cable |
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[22:33:55] | czth: | good thing, since the MCE remote IR blaster doesn't work with lirc |
[22:34:06] | MikkelRev: | kormoc: yes, its deleted but same result |
[22:35:48] | kormoc: | MikkelRev, sorry, I donno what to say, it's sounding like something wonky is going on |
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[22:39:23] | juski: | bollocks. bbc1 recordings are still not playing back properly at 1x when I deinterlace |
[22:39:40] | scopeuk: | juski good luck with that |
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[22:39:53] | scopeuk: | there no wonder beginers have trubble with myth sometimes |
[22:40:10] | stuarta: | what's wrong with it? |
[22:40:17] | juski: | changed the recording profile to only record tv (tv only) & it's still bloody pausing every few secs |
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[22:40:19] | MikkelRev: | kormoc: k... :( |
[22:40:26] | scopeuk: | just a point bassed off how much its been screwing jsuki round recently |
[22:40:42] | MikkelRev: | Anyone have any ideas with problems running the backend? |
[22:40:47] | juski: | it's those recordings with audio descriptions again |
[22:41:03] | stuarta: | just switch to the other audio track?!? |
[22:41:10] | juski: | it's blank |
[22:41:11] | juski: | always |
[22:41:26] | stuarta: | nasty. |
[22:41:43] | juski: | if I don't deinterlace, playback is _fine_ |
[22:41:45] | Kelerion: | evening all! :) |
[22:41:52] | stuarta: | evening! |
[22:41:52] | juski: | playback is great at 0.9 or 1.1x |
[22:41:56] | juski: | evening Kelerion |
[22:42:05] | juski: | pvr150 recordings are also fine |
[22:42:23] | juski: | wonder if it's worth checking out -fixes again & rebuilding it |
[22:43:10] | juski: | rev. 11626 but AFAIK there've not been any relevant changes since then |
[22:43:21] | MikkelRev: | juski is back! Im sure you have plenty ideas how to start my myth backend! :-> |
[22:43:40] | ** stuarta suggests fire ** | |
[22:44:09] | stuarta: | Kelerion: been recording planet earth in HD for next year :) |
[22:44:32] | ** Kelerion laughs ** | |
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[22:44:38] | Kelerion: | well...they did look good :) |
[22:45:01] | stuarta: | look amazing even transcoded down to mpeg3 |
[22:45:04] | stuarta: | mpeg4 even |
[22:45:07] | juski: | if I don't get this playback issue sorted I won't be there next year |
[22:45:23] | juski: | time to get the big guns out |
[22:45:44] | Kelerion: | well am *determinded* to get my dvb working one way or the other... lol |
[22:45:53] | Kelerion: | but gonna put it on hold for a week |
[22:46:13] | Kelerion: | determined* even |
[22:46:37] | juski: | time to see if vlc can play this file |
[22:46:44] | stuarta: | Kelerion: how's it going? |
[22:47:42] | juski: | stuarta: audio description channel during EE should be active yes? |
[22:47:43] | Kelerion: | been catching up on work...so not been here for a week or so... and definately not had time to play... but am keeping my alcohol stream infused not the less... at least have *some* priorities :P |
[22:47:53] | stuarta: | EE? |
[22:47:58] | juski: | eastenders :( |
[22:48:05] | juski: | oh wait! |
[22:48:09] | juski: | it plays in VLC |
[22:48:09] | stuarta: | if there is an AD in the guide data |
[22:48:35] | juski: | this must be a via xvmc issue |
[22:48:46] | stuarta: | hmm.... |
[22:49:35] | juski: | currently being used at the mo... ITV recordings seem ok.. where's the frickin justice?! |
[22:49:49] | juski: | I never bloody watch ITV |
[22:50:02] | Kelerion: | stuarta: quick one..what should I be looking for to debug the fact that my dvb works in player *perfectly*... but breaks up, stutters, crackles and screams in myth? |
[22:50:16] | Ballsy: | How would I figure out what 'external channel change' command to use if I have a set-top box ? |
[22:50:26] | juski: | any way to check the stream for discontinuities in the stream other than mythfrontend -v playback? |
[22:50:38] | mikal: | Are there any good examples of how to use mythtvosd with an XML template available? I can't find any documentation on the topic... |
[22:51:00] | Kelerion: | Ballsy: it's a script you put somewhere |
[22:51:28] | stuarta: | Kelerion: tried the old pause, count to 3, unpause trick? |
[22:51:47] | Ballsy: | Kelerion, can you be any more descriptive ? ie. 'what' script ? |
[22:51:49] | Kelerion: | erm... nope... lol |
[22:52:10] | Kelerion: | Ballsy: usually, for a STB... one that has something to drive your IR blaster |
[22:52:36] | juski: | oo I wonder if it could be fixed by mounting the recordings dir over nfs... |
[22:52:47] | Ballsy: | Kelerion, something like 'irsend' for example ? |
[22:53:13] | Kelerion: | Ballsy: do you have an ir blaster? |
[22:53:28] | Ballsy: | Kelerion, yes, it came with my PVR 150 card. |
[22:53:48] | Kelerion: | oh...that one... no idea... but it's covered *tons* in the archives |
[22:54:00] | Ballsy: | Kelerion, and it's currently taped to the front of my receiver (worked fine under Windows)( |
[22:54:03] | juski: | invalid cbp... wth? |
[22:54:13] | juski: | slice mismatch... |
[22:56:05] | juski: | hmm don't think this is a recording problem |
[22:56:15] | juski: | plays back fine on the backend machine |
[22:56:30] | juski: | nvidia xvmc and bob deinterlace at 1x.. all fine fine fine |
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[22:58:46] | stuarta: | hmmm... ~2400 msg in this mailbox.... thread delete is my friend.... |
[22:59:33] | juski: | hokay. frontend is free again |
[23:00:28] | stuarta: | hmmm 2035 is not a good date for the last program in my guide data..... |
[23:01:34] | juski: | WriteAudio: buffer underrun |
[23:01:34] | juski: | 2006-11–13 23:08:39.287 NVP: Video is 3.56735 frames ahead of audio, doubling video frame interval to slow down. |
[23:01:38] | juski: | bingo |
[23:01:52] | juski: | happens about every 20 secs |
[23:02:17] | stuarta: | that'll be the problem. |
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[23:02:41] | stuarta: | now if we can just get to the bottom of it, many many people will be happy |
[23:03:05] | juski: | what? |
[23:03:11] | juski: | it's widespread? |
[23:03:44] | stuarta: | *IMHO* it's related to every issue that comes up with prebuffering pauses.... |
[23:03:56] | juski: | extra audio bufferring didn't change owt |
[23:03:56] | stuarta: | only i can't prove it |
[23:04:25] | psofa: | im so mad at this thing |
[23:04:36] | juski: | is it only folks with lower end hardware seeing it? |
[23:04:40] | psofa: | no! |
[23:04:47] | psofa: | i upgrated to a 3500+ |
[23:04:51] | psofa: | and still crap |
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[23:04:56] | juski: | but in playback at 1.1x it's _fine_ |
[23:05:07] | psofa: | no idea |
[23:05:21] | stuarta: | well, it's my theory.... |
[23:05:25] | psofa: | 2006-11–13 20:16:33.397 in SetParameters(format=2, channels=1, rate=48000, buffer_time=500000, period_time=125000) |
[23:05:32] | psofa: | 2006-11–13 20:16:33.398 set_period_time_near returned 21333 |
[23:05:39] | psofa: | doesnt this look bad? |
[23:05:42] | stuarta: | wtf is that? |
[23:05:59] | psofa: | its a snip of -v all |
[23:06:05] | juski: | this isn't good |
[23:06:18] | psofa: | i suspect this is whats causing my problem |
[23:06:27] | juski: | stuarta: so what's the theory about the NVP prebuffer pauses? |
[23:07:15] | psofa: | id bet its the damn sound timing.But im clueless so my bet would prolly be wrong |
[23:07:43] | stuarta: | my currently completely unproven and possibly wildly inaccurate theory is that there are issues with the code that play with the speed of the playback |
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[23:08:07] | juski: | but shouldn't those be bypassed when not timestretching? |
[23:08:23] | juski: | oh wait.. or the stuff about it skipping frames to get the audio back in sync |
[23:08:36] | stuarta: | yeah that's the stuff... |
[23:08:51] | stuarta: | which would IMHO cause WOW.... |
[23:08:53] | psofa: | juski, have you tried the wrap video around |
[23:08:58] | psofa: | err |
[23:09:14] | psofa: | dont remember how its called.The one that uses video for synchronizing |
[23:09:33] | juski: | warp video? yeah each & every way |
[23:09:52] | juski: | stuarta: maybe it's getting its maths wrong about the sync of the streams then |
[23:10:10] | stuarta: | would not surprise me in the slightest.... |
[23:10:20] | stuarta: | ENOJACKDANIELS |
[23:10:30] | juski: | hell I'd happily give up timestretch for flawless 1x playback |
[23:10:33] | psofa: | juski, can you do the -v all and see if you get the same thing about the set_period_time? |
[23:10:42] | juski: | turned my FE off now |
[23:10:46] | psofa: | :( |
[23:11:00] | juski: | thing is my backend doesn't have any issues with it |
[23:11:39] | fryfrog: | Stupid Ubuntu question... if one had a large partition where one stored various directories (like the mythtv's recordings dir, music files, etc |
[23:11:42] | fryfrog: | where would one mount it? |
[23:11:46] | psofa: | ive tried like million buffer sizes |
[23:11:50] | juski: | fryfrog: anywhere you want |
[23:11:53] | fryfrog: | Currently, I use "/mnt/raid5/" which is just something i pulled out of my ass |
[23:12:03] | stuarta: | i don't think timestretch causes it... |
[23:12:06] | psofa: | i use /mnt/store :P |
[23:12:09] | fryfrog: | juski: well, *asside* from anywhere i want, is there any convention or thought? |
[23:12:21] | fryfrog: | er, convention or standard |
[23:12:23] | juski: | fryfrog: I use /media/video /media/music etc |
[23:12:31] | fryfrog: | humm, i see |
[23:12:35] | juski: | previously used /myth/tv /myth/music etc |
[23:12:45] | fryfrog: | where do recordings go? |
[23:12:47] | stuarta: | the thing about unix is you can use whatever you like |
[23:12:48] | fryfrog: | media/video? |
[23:12:52] | juski: | like uhhh who cares where? just somewhere you like |
[23:13:03] | conreyt: | fryfrog: its up to you... there's no "set" location |
[23:13:05] | stuarta: | mine are in /data/mythtv |
[23:13:11] | fryfrog: | stuarta: of course, i realize that. i'm just wondering if there is any good precident |
[23:13:16] | stuarta: | nope |
[23:13:26] | conreyt: | mine are in /media/tv /media/movies /media/music |
[23:13:41] | fryfrog: | that sounds like a decent organization |
[23:14:01] | stuarta: | which will conflict with FC* automounting of removable devices.... |
[23:14:14] | fryfrog: | oh, suck :) |
[23:14:23] | conreyt: | yup.... decent for me!=decent for you ;) |
[23:14:32] | fryfrog: | well, i'm not on ubuntu yet :) |
[23:14:35] | fryfrog: | just teh gentoo |
[23:14:44] | psofa: | juski, have you tried with the dummy alsa driver? |
[23:14:53] | stuarta: | luckily ubuntu ~= debian |
[23:14:54] | fryfrog: | i'm a bit tired of the un-coolness of "/mnt/raid5/" :) |
[23:15:25] | stuarta: | well remount it under /sexy/recordings... |
[23:15:31] | conreyt: | very nice.... |
[23:15:39] | psofa: | or /mnt/pr0n |
[23:15:47] | fryfrog: | to specific :) |
[23:15:52] | stuarta: | /dev/null |
[23:16:00] | conreyt: | that's tasty... |
[23:16:04] | fryfrog: | it has my music, apps, games, pr0n, tv, etc all in there some where :) |
[23:16:27] | stuarta: | ie. /data |
[23:16:32] | conreyt: | yet I can never find my recording from there stuarta but eh my HD space never seems to get smaller.... |
[23:16:35] | fryfrog: | yar, data sounds like a good choice |
[23:16:57] | fryfrog: | anyone anal about their music collection? |
[23:17:07] | stuarta: | lots of peopple.. |
[23:17:28] | conreyt: | anyone know of a daap music client for mythmusic? |
[23:17:42] | fryfrog: | what sort of dir / file struct do you use then stuarta ? :) |
[23:17:45] | psofa: | conreyt, i dont think it exists |
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[23:17:59] | psofa: | but if you think about it daap is no big deal |
[23:18:10] | stuarta: | why not /recordings /music /fluffy-duck.... |
[23:18:26] | fryfrog: | i mean, that of the actual music dir |
[23:18:43] | fryfrog: | ie, i have "soundtracks" and "compilations" and "albums" in my music dir |
[23:18:53] | ** stuarta shrugs ** | |
[23:18:55] | kormoc: | artist/album/artist – album – #track num – track name.ext |
[23:19:20] | fryfrog: | kormoc: how do you deal with multi-artist albums like sound tracks and such? the ol' "various artists" dir? |
[23:19:21] | kormoc: | and for compilations, I use 'Various Artists' |
[23:19:24] | fryfrog: | ah |
[23:19:27] | ** stuarta suspects this movie is complete crap.... ** | |
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[23:19:45] | conreyt: | psofa: oh dear.... that's my last link in my home audio complete happiness... |
[23:19:55] | fryfrog: | I used to do those long track names, but backing up to CD was annoying :) |
[23:20:18] | stuarta: | backups !?!?!?!?! |
[23:20:24] | conreyt: | I dump um into the same folder and ensure that thier id3 tags are correct... but I'm just terribly lazy... |
[23:20:30] | RyeBrye3: | Would there be a big difference in performance with MythTV if I upgrade my ram from 256 meg to 1gig? |
[23:20:34] | fryfrog: | generally, mine are "artist/album/## – name.ext" in hopes that *that* will fit on a cd/dvd :) |
[23:20:47] | stuarta: | RyeBrye3: quite likely |
[23:20:47] | kormoc: | RyeBrye3, depends if you are using the 256 now or not. |
[23:20:57] | stuarta: | espectially for combined FE/BE |
[23:20:58] | kormoc: | RyeBrye3, for me, it will be, as I'm using a ton of swap |
[23:20:58] | fryfrog: | RyeBrye3: It is easy to tell |
[23:20:59] | psofa: | conreyt, why not just share the music collection via nfs or samba? |
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[23:21:09] | fryfrog: | RyeBrye3: fire up "top" and see if you are using much swap |
[23:21:14] | RyeBrye3: | Yeah, my swap is usually using 500 megs out of 768 megs |
[23:21:21] | stuarta: | buy ram |
[23:21:35] | kormoc: | fryfrog, I like having a single filename that tells me where the file goes :) |
[23:21:38] | fryfrog: | RyeBrye3: yeah, then adding 500mb+ will help a ton :) |
[23:21:44] | kormoc: | RyeBrye3, then yeah, it should help nicely :) |
[23:21:45] | fryfrog: | kormoc: yeah, actually that is exactly why i started |
[23:21:48] | stuarta: | i was living 800Mb in swap. so i got 2G |
[23:21:50] | RyeBrye3: | A friend at work has some used PC 3200 400Mhz dimms he's going to sell me cheap... |
[23:21:52] | fryfrog: | kormoc: i mean, started out with that format |
[23:22:07] | fryfrog: | but then one time i backed up all my music to dvd-rw and *every* track exceded the joliet standard |
[23:22:10] | fryfrog: | well, almost every |
[23:22:17] | kormoc: | true |
[23:22:18] | RyeBrye3: | I'm going to run memcheck on them and then if they pass I'll pay him |
[23:23:03] | conreyt: | psofa: I shall expound: *ahem* scenario 1. friend A comes over with his laptop... He has a large selection of music on his laptop, and I want to listen to it for a party on the stereo. I turn on my mythmusic box, browse to a daap share (i.e. iTunes or Banshee, or Rhytmbox) and jam out on my stereo/mythtv |
[23:23:04] | juski: | hokay rebooting my frontend in the interests of errr.. science |
[23:23:18] | fryfrog: | holey shitskies, 456724k used |
[23:23:24] | fryfrog: | i'm almost half a gig into swap too :/ |
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[23:23:42] | juski: | wait til you're using my new theme.. muhahahahaha |
[23:24:07] | fryfrog: | conreyt: i say you just mount his music, borg'ify it to your own :) |
[23:24:10] | ** stuarta is ** | |
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[23:24:30] | fryfrog: | whew, my slave be/fe is not using any swap :) |
[23:24:31] | RyeBrye3: | the myth frontend daemon is supposed to support daap client stuff |
[23:24:38] | RyeBrye3: | (mfd in the svn) |
[23:24:49] | RyeBrye3: | has anyone touched that recently? |
[23:25:05] | juski: | stuarta: not this one: www.juski.co.uk/pg/comingsoon.htm :) |
[23:25:31] | kormoc: | memory: 249 megs, used 246, swap, 255, used 254 |
[23:25:31] | ** kormoc ponders getting more ram ** | |
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[23:26:33] | conreyt: | fryfrog: not interested in that I'm interested in listening to it.... now. not after borg....whatever. |
[23:26:52] | RyeBrye3: | conreyt – have you looked into the mfd? |
[23:27:04] | fryfrog: | 9830 mysql 15 0 400m 69m 3048 S 0.3 6.9 44:32.16 mysqld |
[23:27:12] | stuarta: | juski: what you gunna call that? can't possibly be a project grahem. it's not grey |
[23:27:13] | fryfrog: | mysql using 400m??? |
[23:27:23] | conreyt: | RyeBrye3: no I haven't it's in SVN though? |
[23:27:30] | RyeBrye3: | conreyt – yeah |
[23:27:36] | juski: | stuarta: no idea what I'm gonna call it yet |
[23:28:04] | conreyt: | RyeBrye3: hmm I'll give it a go thanks ALOT. |
[23:28:06] | Joffray: | is there some way to make mytharchive resume from where it failed |
[23:28:09] | stuarta: | it's a bit like blue on 'roids |
[23:28:17] | conreyt: | RyeBrye3: I'll let you know how it goes ;) |
[23:28:20] | RyeBrye3: | conreyt – I don't know what the current status is |
[23:28:27] | juski: | 2006-11–13 23:35:06.813 write -> 16 74 QUERY_FILETRANSFER 24[]:[]SEEK[]:[]0[]:[]1500588592[]:[]0[]:[]0[]:[]327680 |
[23:28:30] | juski: | 2006-11–13 23:35:06.814 read <- 16 16 0[]:[]1500588592 |
[23:28:33] | juski: | 2006-11–13 23:35:06.814 write -> 16 49 QUERY_FILETRANSFER 24[]:[]REQUEST_BLOCK[]:[]65536 |
[23:28:37] | juski: | audio waiting for buffer to fill: have 1536 want 6144 |
[23:28:41] | juski: | ding dong! |
[23:28:42] | conreyt: | RyeBrye3: If i come back rending my garments you'll know it dosen't work. |
[23:28:49] | psofa: | juski, yeah no shit :P |
[23:28:56] | psofa: | i get those too |
[23:29:04] | RyeBrye3: | conreyt – but it looks like the goal of the project is to get stuff like MythMusic to serve a daap and to let MythMusic find daap clients |
[23:29:08] | juski: | stuarta: can we just filter the damn stream. I don't need no audio desc. crap |
[23:29:20] | RyeBrye3: | I want to extend it to do dpap also (digital photo access protocol – used by iPhoto) |
[23:29:22] | stuarta: | FFS how am i supposed to test my spamtrap when I don't get any spam?? |
[23:29:29] | juski: | lol |
[23:29:39] | psofa: | stuarta, if i could only help you by sending you my spam |
[23:29:41] | conreyt: | perfect.. I don't mind it trying to serve up music... the important thing is that it has the client side on it (for me anyway) |
[23:29:44] | ** juski signs stuarta up to the blue pill mailing list ** | |
[23:29:44] | psofa: | :( |
[23:29:55] | kormoc: | stuarta, what's your email address, I'm sure google can find some nice spammers to hand it out to |
[23:29:59] | stuarta: | normally i have no trouble getting my own.... |
[23:30:14] | juski: | why does myth want 6144 buffers? |
[23:30:15] | stuarta: | i setup some spam processing addresses that get hit every day |
[23:30:26] | stuarta: | and no bastard send them email |
[23:30:28] | psofa: | juski, thats the fragment size |
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[23:30:32] | juski: | 0.19 never had this issue |
[23:30:36] | juski: | :( |
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[23:30:45] | psofa: | thats what the alsaoutput.cpp says atleast |
[23:30:56] | stuarta: | juski: you don't know which stream is the AD stream until you look at the coding params |
[23:30:56] | conreyt: | RyeBrye3: I'm off to see the wizard... be back soon ....... |
[23:31:17] | RyeBrye3: | conreyt – cool |
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[23:31:17] | juski: | stuarta: it doesn't change on the bloody fly though does it? |
[23:31:18] | psofa: | juski, check the 2006-11–13 20:16:33.398 set_period_time_near returned 21333 with -v all |
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[23:31:39] | stuarta: | this movie is just getting silly |
[23:32:11] | Kelerion: | stuarta: what was the command to rebuild the seek table again? all my 30 min programs say they are 8 hours.. lol |
[23:32:17] | juski: | set_period_time_near returned 170666 |
[23:32:24] | juski: | Kelerion: mythcommflag -all |
[23:32:33] | stuarta: | Kelerion: mythcommflag --rebuild |
[23:32:36] | psofa: | juski, and what did you request? |
[23:32:47] | stuarta: | with relevant options to select the video |
[23:32:47] | juski: | psofa: eh? |
[23:32:48] | psofa: | 2006-11–13 20:16:33.397 in SetParameters(format=2, channels=1, rate=48000, buffer_time=500000, period_time=125000) |
[23:32:49] | Kelerion: | thats it :) thanks |
[23:33:01] | juski: | in SetParameters(format=2, channels=2, rate=48000, buffer_time=500000, period_time=125000) |
[23:33:21] | juski: | is this an alsa problem or a myth problem then? |
[23:33:30] | psofa: | juski,doesnt this look strange to you too? |
[23:33:45] | psofa: | i suppose it should return a number near 125000 |
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[23:34:14] | juski: | this is starting to sound a bit like a wrong unit used somewhere |
[23:34:20] | ** stuarta is glad this movie has only 15mins left ** | |
[23:35:25] | juski: | aww & I'm starting to really like ubuntu |
[23:35:46] | stuarta: | doubt it's ubuntu |
[23:36:13] | juski: | I know but my 0.19 system is on gentoo |
[23:36:29] | stuarta: | there is but one way to test.... |
[23:36:34] | juski: | in SetParameters(format=2, channels=2, rate=48000, buffer_time=500000, period_time=125000) |
[23:36:39] | juski: | fack |
[23:36:40] | juski: | AO: 65536 bytes free on soundcard |
[23:36:40] | juski: | 2006-11–13 23:35:08.117 WriteAudio: Preparing 6144 bytes (1536 frames) |
[23:36:50] | psofa: | ! |
[23:36:57] | stuarta: | !?! |
[23:37:04] | psofa: | yeah |
[23:37:27] | juski: | but before psofa, you said the thing about chunks, not bytes |
[23:37:38] | psofa: | i even set the buffer size to 128kbytes and its still comlaining theres no free space |
[23:37:50] | psofa: | juski, i said 6144 is the fragment size |
[23:37:54] | psofa: | whatever that means |
[23:37:55] | psofa: | :P |
[23:38:05] | psofa: | its in bytes |
[23:38:06] | juski: | it's not that someone was thinking 'bytes' but they put 'chunks' into the code |
[23:38:45] | ** stuarta tries to think of a witty comment with bytes & chunks ** | |
[23:38:47] | juski: | and why only on bbc recordings? |
[23:39:00] | juski: | well not on ITV1 recordings anyway |
[23:39:16] | juski: | only rational thing I can think of is they don't have extra streams |
[23:39:22] | psofa: | juski, maybe the hz are different? |
[23:39:24] | stuarta: | no they don't |
[23:39:37] | juski: | and that's the key thing here I think |
[23:39:39] | stuarta: | and itv broadcast at a lower res as well |
[23:40:07] | juski: | where does myth determine the audio timecode from? |
[23:40:08] | stuarta: | only the bbc are committed to access for all |
[23:40:18] | psofa: | juski, about the fragment size |
[23:40:30] | psofa: | i checked the outputalsa.cpp or sth and its fixed into the code |
[23:40:37] | psofa: | its always 6144 |
[23:40:43] | juski: | psofa: do the recordings you have problems with have more than one audio stream? |
[23:40:57] | psofa: | lemme check |
[23:41:15] | psofa: | err i cant check im in the middle of a glibc compile |
[23:41:16] | psofa: | :P |
[23:41:16] | stuarta: | psofa: really? that can't be good |
[23:41:30] | juski: | wonder if it's not something daft like not filtering the streams fully.. dunno, bit out of my depth |
[23:41:56] | stuarta: | if that were the case, other programs wouldn't be able to play it. |
[23:42:03] | stuarta: | properly |
[23:42:19] | juski: | vlc plays _anything_ though.. the most robust player I've ever seen |
[23:42:43] | juski: | mythtranscode has been coughing on recordings made since I upgraded |
[23:42:58] | juski: | and on some made before I upgraded |
[23:43:14] | ** D-side ponders the xbox360 HD-DVD drive ** | |
[23:43:18] | juski: | status 232 whatever that is |
[23:43:28] | Kelerion: | bah...says my recordedseek table is screwed... |
[23:43:28] | psofa: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . tputalsa.cpp |
[23:43:31] | psofa: | on line 89 |
[23:43:33] | stuarta: | translates to "i shit myself" |
[23:44:20] | juski: | psofa: so erm.. if the buffer size is fixed in the source, what's the point of finding out how many buffers the soundcard has?! |
[23:44:40] | stuarta: | sounds like that needs work |
[23:44:56] | psofa: | juski, ive no idea but i see: audio_buffer_unused = soundcard_buffer_size – (fragment_size * 4); |
[23:45:04] | psofa: | sounds messy |
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[23:45:18] | juski: | what did it used to say? ;) |
[23:45:33] | juski: | anyone got 0.19 source handy? |
[23:45:50] | psofa: | juski, the file was checked in 5 months ago |
[23:45:51] | juski: | anyway it hardly explains why my other box can play the streams right |
[23:45:58] | Sebulba02: | hey, anyone know of a howto to get a logitech harmony remote working via lirc and a mceusb2 receiver? |
[23:46:06] | ** stuarta points to http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/branches/0.10-fixes ** | |
[23:46:12] | psofa: | juski, and its only 600 lines |
[23:46:26] | Kelerion: | rebooting...brb |
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[23:46:40] | stuarta: | new feature required! "Don't ever record that piece of crap again! |
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[23:47:32] | psofa: | stuarta, maybe an imdb rating on the epg? |
[23:48:10] | stuarta: | pah! can't even get a decent subtitle from the epg monkeys.... |
[23:48:26] | juski: | Change the fragment size for ALSA so that it is possible to play |
[23:48:26] | juski: | 6 channel (aka 5.1) audio. It still doesn't sound right, but at |
[23:49:21] | psofa: | juski, iirc i tried oss emulation |
[23:49:32] | psofa: | the fragment size was less |
[23:49:40] | juski: | psofa: it's not changed since 0.19 |
[23:49:57] | psofa: | but it continued to display those not enough space messages |
[23:50:00] | juski: | well not appreciably |
[23:50:50] | psofa: | btw thats the reason the extra buffering option got implemented right? |
[23:52:25] | juski: | ahhhh |
[23:52:36] | juski: | just updated the 'use aggressive souncard buffering' |
[23:52:42] | stuarta: | anyway, night all |
[23:52:48] | psofa: | ?? |
[23:52:53] | charlieS_: | but it's only 4pm! |
[23:52:54] | juski: | setting, and guess what.. the messages about the buffer size have not changed |
[23:53:00] | juski: | night stuarta |
[23:53:02] | psofa: | stuarta, gn |
[23:53:13] | psofa: | juski, why would they |
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[23:53:59] | juski: | "if enabled, mythtv will pretend the soundcard has a smaller buffer than it really has" |
[23:54:42] | psofa: | juski, but as i said changing the real sound card buffer doesnt do anything to the messages |
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[23:55:04] | psofa: | so this option as well shouldnt do anything |
[23:55:21] | juski: | so why the hell is it ignoring the setting? hmmm? ;) |
[23:55:58] | juski: | time to grep the source for that setting & find out what's reading it |
[23:56:07] | kamilC: | hey guys, ive got a question... is there a way to setup mythtv so that it can look at multiple places for movies/audio? |
[23:56:21] | juski: | kamilC: see the wiki |
[23:56:23] | psofa: | juski, if you find it share it with me |
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[23:56:46] | kamilC: | juski: i was just lookin there... under what section is htat? |
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[23:57:45] | RyeBrye3: | kamilC – have you thought of using symlinks to the different locations you want it to look into one dir and then setting that dir as the path? |
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[23:59:00] | kamilC: | RyeBrye3: hey... im kinda of new to linux.. what are symlinks ... are they just normal links? |
[23:59:04] | juski: | psofa: programs/mythfrontend/globalsettings.cpp and libs/libmyth/audiooutputbase.cpp |
[23:59:09] | psofa: | ok |
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