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Thursday, October 19th, 2006, 00:00 UTC
[00:00:10] kormoc: see if it's an option in the frontend?
[00:00:10] nandy_: kormoc: using the fedora core packages
[00:00:17] nandy_: it is.
[00:00:27] nandy_: wwasnt sure if that definately indicated support
[00:00:28] kormoc: then it was compiled with XvMC support
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[00:01:03] nandy_: and if i turn it on and watch tv its definately being used?
[00:01:08] nandy_: because my cpu is still at like 80%
[00:01:14] nandy_: and im not sure where the issue is
[00:01:29] kormoc: you would need to check the output mythfrontend spits out to see if it's not using it for some reason
[00:02:23] squish: i have a dumb question, i have 0.19 running with a pvr150, now i have added an ati hdtv dvb card, i have found it and run scan and have a channels.conf, then i run azap, but i have no idea y i have to run it or do with the results
[00:02:37] radi0head: Hello, I have a mpeg2 hardware encoder (PVR-150) and I cut the commercial using avidemux2 and then I merge the files using cat to have one single file. Everything is perfect so far, but when I use dvdauthor, I get this error: ERR: SCR moves backwards, remultiplex input. I've googled a bit and came to this conclusion: "If the time code is not continuous, dvdauthor will stop with the error message: ERR: SCR moves backw
[00:02:38] radi0head: ards, remultiplex input." Does anyone here knows how to fix this? Thanks in advance.
[00:02:44] radi0head: ards, remultiplex input." Does anyone here knows how to fix this? Thanks in advance.
[00:02:59] radi0head: s/commercial/commercials
[00:03:55] Zider: can cat really merge video files?
[00:04:05] Zider: doesn't the indexes getmessed up?
[00:04:46] radi0head: It can, plays fine on mplayer/xine.
[00:04:48] netw1z: sorry. i didnt know snapshots was warez :(
[00:04:55] radi0head: it can merge avi files too.
[00:05:07] nandy_: i see no messages about xvmc
[00:05:12] radi0head: Zider; But to merge avi files I usually use avimerge.
[00:05:16] nandy_: err
[00:05:19] nandy_: kormoc: i see no messages about xvmc
[00:06:02] Zider: radi0head: I mean, avi files (for example) has a frameindex or something in the beginnig (or end), if you just cat them together there would be two indexes, of which one is in the middle of the file, right?
[00:06:07] radi0head: Zider; The only thing is that the time code is not continuous when merging mpeg2 files using cat. dvdauthor doesn't like it.
[00:06:29] radi0head: Zider; I guess you must be right. I don't know about avimerge though.
[00:06:55] Zider: I haven't doneanything like it at all, it just seems logical :P
[00:07:36] Zider: I'm still looking for a decent program similar to virtualdub, where I can re-encode, cut and scale video files..
[00:07:45] Zider: haven't found anything usable yet
[00:07:51] radi0head: Zider; It seems like using "-noidx" option with dvdauthor might fix this.
[00:08:00] radi0head: Zider; avidemux2.
[00:08:50] Zider: last time I used that it pretty much sucked.. I'll check again if they done anything decent out of it.. ;P
[00:09:02] radi0head: Zider; It rocks here.
[00:09:04] BULLE: radi0head: you cant join mpeg files with cat
[00:09:07] BULLE: radi0head: its as simple as that
[00:09:18] radi0head: BULLE; Works perfectly with mplayer/xine.
[00:09:26] BULLE: radi0head: yes
[00:09:41] BULLE: radi0head: but its still a very broken mpeg stream, that your dvd player wont play
[00:10:28] radi0head: BULLE; Well, so far it's the only way I found to merge mpeg2 files.
[00:10:52] BULLE: radi0head: you dont merg them, you basicly just put the two files in one, with cat, there is no merge there at all
[00:11:02] radi0head: I know
[00:11:09] BULLE: radi0head: and there is lots of software around, sadly i dont know of any free for linux software, that do mpeg editing
[00:11:32] nandy_: kormoc: any ideas what im looking for or when i would see it?
[00:11:55] radi0head: I can't believe that no one here knows how to merge mpeg2 files on #mythtv-users.
[00:12:07] BULLE: radi0head: i know how to do it, with commercial software
[00:12:07] radi0head: The right way(TM)
[00:12:25] radi0head: Define "commercial software"
[00:13:39] radi0head: No one here cuts the commercials and merge the remaining mpeg2s?
[00:13:53] Zider: I don't even have a tuner yet
[00:13:54] BULLE: radi0head: commercial, as in costs a few thousand usd
[00:13:55] Zider: :P
[00:13:57] radi0head: Zider; lol
[00:14:07] radi0head: BULLE; Ah, no thanks.
[00:14:09] BULLE: radi0head: and if you want to burn a dvd, there is no need to merge the files, just burn the files
[00:14:13] Zider: well, I have a tuner card actually, but the tuner is broken.. ;D
[00:14:18] radi0head: BULLE; I NEED to merge them.
[00:14:22] Zider: so I can only get composite/dvideo :P
[00:14:23] BULLE: why ?
[00:14:24] Zider: svideo
[00:15:12] radi0head: BULLE; Because I'm creating animated menus with thumbs, and each file needs a thumb. I won't make 4 thumbs for 1 file.
[00:16:11] BULLE: uh , look at any video dvd, you will find lots of files, one for each chapter
[00:16:22] BULLE: just construct your dvd with each video part, as one chapter
[00:16:41] radi0head: BULLE; I know, but (i think) the software I use doesn't do that (yet?)
[00:17:10] BULLE: no idea
[00:17:34] radi0head: I heard using -noidx works
[00:17:48] radi0head: 2sec, let me try this
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[00:20:51] radi0head: err, that was a mencoder switch, nevermind.
[00:21:19] net_tux: does anyone know of a way to export from mythtv, both using a cutlist and exporting more than 2 channels of audio?
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[00:22:10] BULLE: net_tux: only think i know of is nuvexport
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[00:23:37] robbins876: i'm trying to reinstall myth, but i'm getting this error
[00:23:39] robbins876: Error: Missing Dependency: libmp4ff.so.0 is needed by package mythmusic
[00:24:02] kormoc: robbins876, so install libmp4ff
[00:24:12] robbins876: easy answer, but how?
[00:24:19] kormoc: depends on your distro
[00:24:22] net_tux: BULLE: is there a way to get nuvexport to do more than 2 channels of audio? I haven't been able to get it to do that
[00:24:30] BULLE: net_tux: no idea
[00:25:03] radi0head: robbins876; /var/log/packages/faad2–2.0-i486–1
[00:25:20] radi0head: robbins876; You need faad2
[00:25:20] robbins876: what?
[00:25:29] radi0head: robbins876; Ever heard of google?
[00:25:29] robbins876: oh, yeah, i'm removing and reinstalling that right now, actually
[00:25:45] robbins876: perhaps you missed my last message
[00:28:12] net_tux: in searching on the web, I found something about translating myth cutlists (frames) to mplayer edl lists (times) and using mencoder, but using the conversion explained, the cutlists didn't match up :(
[00:32:19] robbins876: radi0head> for future reference, the problem stems from the livna repo, so to fix it, i just disabled the repo and reinstalled faad2
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[00:33:23] Zider: radi0head: it's not very multithreaded, avidemux.. :/
[00:33:33] Zider: radi0head: or maybe I should blame the tools it use ;)
[00:36:19] robbins876: hmm... i think i foudn the problem
[00:37:11] robbins876: in mythsetup, under capture cards, it's telling me that it can't initialize my capture card
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[00:41:19] squish: i have a dumb question, i have 0.19 running with a pvr150, now i have added an ati hdtv dvb card, i have found it and run scan and have a channels.conf, then i run azap, but i have no idea y i have to run it or do with the results
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[00:43:56] nandy_: hmm
[00:43:57] nandy_: Checking for Xv ... yes
[00:43:57] nandy_: Checking for XvMC ... yes (using XvMCW)
[00:44:05] nandy_: shouldnt that say XvMCNVIDIA ?
[00:44:18] kormoc: nope
[00:44:35] kormoc: XvMCW is a wrapper to allow you to set which XvMC lib to use at runtime
[00:44:48] nandy_: ah ok
[00:44:53] nandy_: making a new mplayer now
[00:44:57] nandy_: with xvmc support
[00:48:01] squish: ok maybe another question, any1 using 0.19 on fc, and did a yum update to .20 using atrpms
[00:48:12] squish: was ist successful?
[00:48:26] squish: im scared
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[01:07:27] robbins876: when i go to live tv, the screen goes blank for a few seconds then it kicks me back to the menu... any help?
[01:09:55] kormoc: check the output the frontend spits out?
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[01:18:31] robbins876: kormoc> you still there?
[01:18:50] robbins876: when i try to load live tv, this is what it tells me
[01:18:54] robbins876: http://pastebin.ca/209162
[01:19:48] robbins876: anyone? this place is usually jumping with activity
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[01:21:16] FunkyELF: hey guys, I upgraded to the latest mythtv and nuvexport in gentoo and now I get negative values for total frames and the percentage complete as I'm transcoding....anyone else get that too?
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[01:24:25] robbins876: just so you know someone is here... no, i have no clue
[01:27:05] net_tux: FunkyELF: I'm using gentoo and the latest version of mythtv in portage as of a few weeks ago; I'm not seeing that; however, I have had it get to 100% before it actually reaches the end, in which case it just stays at 100% and the number of transcoded frames keeps going up
[01:28:14] FunkyELF: net_tux, thanks....it never worked correctly before I upgraded to .20 either
[01:28:31] FunkyELF: for me it used to go up to like 70% then stop because it wasn't taking into account the commercial skip
[01:28:38] FunkyELF: but now there are some negatives....
[01:28:43] ** FunkyELF hopes the transcode goes well **
[01:28:51] FunkyELF: net_tux, do you use nuvexport --transcode?
[01:30:01] net_tux: yeah, I saw the 70% type thing as well; no, I'm using nuvexport, I think I set it to use ffmpeg in a config file somewhere – i know it's ffmpeg, just not where it's set
[01:31:07] robbins876: hmm... now my remote isn't working... anyone familiar with lirc?
[01:32:21] FunkyELF: for xvid I think transcode is supposed to be better
[01:32:27] FunkyELF: not sure about other codecs
[01:33:03] robbins876: i'm getting connection refused from irw
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[01:38:59] robbins876: anyone help with my remote? having troubles with lirc
[01:39:02] robbins876: not sure why
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[01:56:57] robbins876: alright, my remote is owrking, and live tv is now working, but the problem i'm running into now is that my lineups are all wrong... i changed cable providers today
[01:57:00] robbins876: i've run mythfilldatabase, but that didn't fix anything... anyone?
[02:00:05] robbins876: how is this channel so dead tonight?! it's baffling
[02:00:30] Zider: could be the netsplit that screwed up some clients
[02:01:00] robbins876: wow, a person!
[02:01:08] Zider: well, kind of ;)
[02:01:24] robbins876: know anything about mythfilldatabase?
[02:01:25] Zider: a carbon based life form at least ;)
[02:01:31] Zider: nope
[02:01:40] Zider: I don't even have a tuner
[02:01:48] robbins876: oh wow...
[02:02:02] Zider: ..yet.. ;)
[02:02:17] robbins876: which are you going to get?
[02:02:27] Zider: have no idea
[02:02:32] Zider: if I'm even getting one
[02:02:54] robbins876: really? why not?
[02:02:58] Zider: seems more like I'll be getting a box with firewire
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[02:03:04] Zider: digital box
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[02:03:17] robbins876: i've got digital cable, too
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[02:04:29] Zider: I'm not sure how well it would work to watch encoded channels with an internal tuner.. I'd have to connect the "decoding card" somewhere I guess.. if linux even supports that..
[02:05:05] Zogg5: Does anyone have any experience with the setup screens for the mythweather-revamp? (I'm having some trouble getting the Screens setup to not complain needlessly about a lack of sources.)
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[02:13:01] robbins876: my channel line up is seriously messed up
[02:13:07] robbins876: does anyone have any ideas how to fix it?
[02:17:53] Captain_Murdoch: delete and readd?
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[02:33:13] squishums: i'm a little confused. i have a pvr150 in .20 works well, i added an ati hdtv card, scanned using dvbtools. how do i scan for channels in mythtv after adding the tuner?
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[02:34:34] fiveiron: any idea why TV time would show a perfectly clear picture but mythTV is VERY dark and discolored?
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[02:37:26] fiveiron: hmm... might be my freq table... checking that now
[02:37:36] robbins876: you familiar with mythdatabase, fiveiron?
[02:37:42] robbins876: five iron frenzy...
[02:37:45] fiveiron: not really...
[02:37:51] fiveiron: yes thats where i got my name from
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[02:38:19] robbins876: i used to listen to that band in like 9th grade
[02:38:24] fiveiron: same here
[02:39:49] robbins876: i can't believe nobody is around tonight... this is insane
[02:39:57] Ediehow: anyone using a blaster as a receiver and transmitter?
[02:40:12] Ediehow: i wonder if i should just run lirc twice
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[02:44:05] fiveiron: ugh.... this sucks
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[02:44:21] Ediehow: hi xris
[02:44:30] Ediehow: have you ever used lirc to transmit and receive?
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[02:45:54] xris: Ediehow: not at the same time, nop.
[02:45:59] xris: I had separate installs to do each
[02:46:09] Ediehow: i wonder if i should do that
[02:46:14] Ediehow: well, do i really need separate installs?
[02:47:01] fiveiron: ugh... my picture in mythtv is all dark and muffled... anyone ever run into this?
[02:47:11] robbins876: someone please help me with mythfilldatabase!! COME ON!
[02:47:12] Ediehow: i have usb-uirt working and it controls my satellite
[02:47:15] Ediehow: but i want to use my pc remote
[02:47:25] Ediehow: robbins876: type mythfilldatabase
[02:47:27] xris: Ediehow: theoretically not, but I never really played much with the receiver until after I ditched my transmitter
[02:47:27] xris: brb
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[02:47:52] robbins876: edie> I changed cable providers today and now i can't get myth to function properly
[02:48:53] robbins876: when i run mythfilldatabase, shouldn't it update with the new channel line up from labs.zap2it.com?
[02:50:25] Ediehow: did you change things on labs.zap2it.com?
[02:50:34] Ediehow: lineup
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[02:53:05] scott_: Hello – man oh man, so recently my computer had a failing PSU and I had some hard crashes. my 580GB XFS Raid-0 storage solution for myth seems to be corrupted now, whenever I try to read/watch a recording off the xfs partition and record at the same time to it it fails and hard lockup with a bunch of xfs errors.. I've ran xfs_check and _repair programs but doesn't seem to have helped, is my best bet reformatting the drive to someth
[02:53:43] Zider: ouch
[02:55:03] scott_: yeah it sucks, I guess people have reported similar problems with xfs having bad luck, I had no problems with it for about 9 months, then power problems started causing problems
[02:55:29] Zider: I never tried xfs myself
[02:55:38] scott_: which type do you run?
[02:55:43] Zider: reiserfs
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[02:58:11] fiveiron: ugh... my picture in mythtv is all dark and muffled... anyone ever run into this?
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[03:01:12] Ediehow: poop
[03:01:25] fiveiron: this is ridiculous
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[03:02:49] vballrican: if i add a volume to an LVM group, do i lose everything on the volume?
[03:03:15] tuck3r: i'm having problems getting my PVR150 to work, http://pastebin.ca/209268 i'm using the latest 0.4.* IVTV
[03:03:22] Ediehow: i use pvr15-mce
[03:03:26] Ediehow: .4?
[03:03:28] Ediehow: i am using .8 now
[03:03:41] zoibee: how can i get mythtv to zoom... need that to "fill the screen" on 16:9
[03:03:47] Ediehow: so xris
[03:04:02] Ediehow: i am wondering if it's the driver i am using that doesn't like my pctv remote
[03:04:07] Zider: http://www.usbcell.com/ – clever idea!
[03:04:08] Ediehow: cuz it used to work
[03:04:16] xris: zoibee: I believe that W controlls the aspect ratio
[03:04:27] xris: Ediehow: no clue
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[03:05:49] zoibee: xris: yes, i believe so to, but do I specify the modelines i X config, and what would be the modeline for 16:9 pal?
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[03:06:13] squishums: tuck3r: i'm a noob, but did u do mythtv-setup and add the card and two options below?
[03:06:24] tuck3r: squishums: yes
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[03:07:03] nandy_: anyone around that can help with high cpu usage issues?
[03:07:17] squishums: tuck3r: and in the dmesg, u can see that the ivtv drivers loaded properly?
[03:07:21] Ediehow: nandy_: xvmc may help
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[03:07:30] tuck3r: squishums: yes, but let me check again
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[03:07:36] nandy_: Ediehow: i think i have it on
[03:07:45] nandy_: 2006-10–18 20:05:20.889 AFD: Opened codec 0x9cdeca0, id(MPEG2VIDEO_XVMC) type(Video)
[03:07:45] nandy_: 2006-10–18 20:05:20.889 AFD: Opened codec 0xa981760, id(MP2) type(Audio)
[03:07:45] nandy_: 2006-10–18 20:05:21.010 Opening OSS audio device '/dev/dsp'.
[03:07:45] nandy_: 2006-10–18 20:05:21.037 VideoOutputXv: XvMCTex: Init failed
[03:07:45] nandy_: 2006-10–18 20:05:21.038 VideoOutputXv: XvMC Adaptor Name: 'NV17 Video Texture'
[03:07:46] Ediehow: see if you have same problem with mplayer
[03:07:46] nandy_: X Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) 8
[03:07:47] Ediehow: and video files
[03:07:48] nandy_: Major opcode: 141
[03:07:52] nandy_: Minor opcode: 14
[03:07:54] nandy_: Resource id: 0x1b1
[03:07:56] nandy_: holy crap
[03:07:58] nandy_: so sorry
[03:08:02] tuck3r: lol
[03:08:04] nandy_: way more than i intended to paste
[03:08:05] Ediehow: nandy_: make sure it's being used by mythtv, too
[03:08:06] Ediehow: under seutp
[03:08:09] fiveiron: nandy_, i'm getting the same error
[03:08:11] tuck3r: squishums: yep
[03:08:16] fiveiron: nandy_, is your picture all screwed up?
[03:08:19] nandy_: Ediehow: thats what my mythtv says — i t is definately on
[03:08:23] nandy_: fiveiron: no picture is fine
[03:08:26] fiveiron: *sigh*
[03:08:30] fiveiron: mine is messed up
[03:08:30] Ediehow: try mplayer on a video file
[03:08:30] nandy_: but my cpu is at 86% ona 3500+
[03:08:34] Ediehow: see if cpu usage is high on that
[03:08:40] fiveiron: but TVtime shows a picture just fine
[03:09:13] nandy_: the real problem is once i goto watch tv i cant control w. the remote b/c the cpu is too busy lol
[03:09:55] zoibee: 86%... my is at 20% during livetv (celeron 2.6) :P
[03:10:26] nandy_: ok
[03:10:32] nandy_: Ediehow: what i did is
[03:10:39] nandy_: Ediehow: cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg
[03:10:48] nandy_: then
[03:10:49] nandy_: mplayer -vo xvmc -vc ffmpeg12mc test.mpeg
[03:10:55] nandy_: cpu usage is 10%
[03:11:33] nandy_: well between 9–12%
[03:11:39] nandy_: nowhere near 80–90
[03:11:44] nandy_: which is what i see on myth
[03:11:45] nandy_: :(
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[03:14:11] Ediehow: nandy_: just do mplayer -vo xvmc -vc ffmpeg12mc /dev/video0
[03:15:00] zoibee: arg, how can i get mythtv to view 16:9 when the channel Im watching is a 16:9 in a 4:3 image... if you see what i meen
[03:15:23] nandy_: 13%
[03:15:25] nandy_: 9%
[03:15:30] tuck3r: any other ideas why i would get that error?
[03:15:34] nandy_: tops out at 13%
[03:15:41] Ediehow: nandy_: did you set xvmc in tv playback in mythtv?
[03:16:15] Ediehow: i'm not asking if it's supported
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[03:17:06] nandy_: okay
[03:17:10] nandy_: under playback
[03:17:17] nandy_: Mpeg2 Decoder
[03:17:21] nandy_: Standard XvMC
[03:17:27] Ediehow: k
[03:17:32] Ediehow: change the bob thing
[03:17:40] Ediehow: on that same screen
[03:18:21] nandy_: its set to BOB
[03:18:30] Ediehow: might want to try another
[03:18:37] nandy_: but ive tried it off as well
[03:18:38] nandy_: same results
[03:18:42] nandy_: tryed with none as wlel
[03:18:51] Ediehow: try running JUST mythtv
[03:18:53] Ediehow: not mythfrontened
[03:18:58] nandy_: sec
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[03:19:11] fiveiron: *sigh*
[03:19:26] fiveiron: why in the world would mythtv not show the exact picture that tvtime does
[03:20:22] nandy_: turned off open gl sync
[03:20:26] nandy_: and now its at 40%
[03:20:30] nandy_: well 40–60%
[03:20:39] nandy_: remote still doesnt respond :(
[03:21:14] nandy_: cpu usage almost seems acceptable now
[03:21:28] nandy_: any other reason my remote would be non-responsive in TV mode?
[03:23:16] nandy_: mythtv is at 50% cpu (mythtv not mythfrontend)
[03:23:28] nandy_: but remote dies when it starts
[03:23:38] nandy_: =(
[03:26:19] nandy_: more ideas?
[03:26:58] nandy_: hepl, hepl gm!
[03:29:23] nandy_: xris: plx?
[03:29:29] xris: >
[03:29:30] xris: ?
[03:29:48] ** nandy_ shrugs **
[03:29:48] nandy_: you were at the bottom of the list of people with dotties
[03:29:48] nandy_: :P
[03:30:07] nandy_: any idea why my remote would become non-responsive when i goto watchtv?
[03:30:13] nandy_: i have irw running
[03:30:19] nandy_: i see all the buttons i push come through
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[03:30:28] xris: doesn't irw take control of the bus?
[03:30:28] nandy_: soon as the TV images start i get nothing
[03:30:38] nandy_: even if it isnt running
[03:31:00] nandy_: it works fine on the menus
[03:31:05] nandy_: and stops working when i goto tv mode
[03:31:16] xris: weird
[03:31:20] nandy_: i thought it was the 80% cpu usage
[03:31:28] xris: are you using native lirc support, or irxevent?
[03:31:29] nandy_: but i have it down to 30%i-60% now
[03:31:32] nandy_: lirc
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[03:32:00] xris: nandy_: both use lirc
[03:32:42] nandy_: frontend and tv?
[03:32:48] xris: in your lircrc file, does it say prog=mythtv or prog=irxevent?
[03:34:34] roz: I have installed 2.6.18 and ivtv 0.8.0, and the updated build of mythtv 0.20. its not seeing my card
[03:34:35] nandy_: combination of
[03:34:40] roz: do i need to reconfigure something?
[03:34:44] nandy_: [ mythtv@myth : ~/.mythtv ]
[03:34:45] nandy_: $ grep prog lircrc | uniq
[03:34:45] nandy_: prog = mythtv
[03:34:45] nandy_: prog = mplayer
[03:34:45] nandy_: prog = xine
[03:35:10] roz: i was able to cat /dev/video0 > file.mpg..... successfully, albeit static TV
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[03:37:14] xris: nandy_: no clue, sorry... it generally just works for me.
[03:37:32] nandy_: :(
[03:37:38] robbins876: anyone help, please... I switched cable providers today, so naturally the channel line ups are different... i dont' know how to go about getting the lineups in myth to change
[03:37:45] dmz: hey y'all, i'm trying to get an old dish tuner working with myth, i have it all working except irblaster which i can't seem to get to work. box is very old so don't think it is std JVC...any suggestions?
[03:38:04] roz: robbins876: did you change your lineup on zap2it?
[03:38:14] roz: robbins876: then run mythfilldatabase
[03:38:40] zoibee: one more question. Im using the mythtv box to download movie dvd-images. How can i get mytharchive to burn these? Using growisofs
[03:39:10] robbins876: roz> yeah, i did... but it didn't change anything
[03:39:28] robbins876: well, actually it did... it just really messed up my lineups... like not totally changed, but changed some channels...
[03:39:34] roz: robbins876: even after you ran mythfilldatabase?
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[03:40:11] roz: robbins876: you might have to run mythsetup and delete the channel lineups and add again.... then run mythfilldatabase
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[03:40:18] roz: robbins876: that should fix it
[03:40:26] xris: robbins876: you need to run mfdb with --only-update-channels or --do-channel-updates — unfortunately, one of these sometimes completely resets your zap2it channel lineup to enable ALL channels, and I don't know which is which.
[03:40:43] xris: but you should clear out your local channel and program tables first, too.
[03:41:03] roz: anyone using ivtv 0.8.0?
[03:41:13] sphery: robbins876: use --do-channel-updates
[03:41:20] sphery: Not --only-update-channels
[03:41:42] robbins876: so this.... mythfilldatabase --do-channel-updates
[03:41:43] robbins876: ?
[03:41:55] sphery: roz: Not until next weekend... ;)
[03:42:04] sphery: robbins876: Should work.
[03:42:50] roz: i cant find any documentation on it
[03:43:46] sphery: robbins876: You may be best off using the Delete All button to delete all video sources in mythtv-setup and then recreate video sources, channels, and input connections
[03:43:52] sphery: It's a cleaner fix
[03:43:54] roz: i asked earlier or yesterday and someone said it was all good just to use the newer builds of myth-0.20
[03:44:38] sphery: Yeah, 0.20 has support for ivtv 0.8, but use 0.20-fixes (for other unrelated reasons).
[03:47:19] robbins876: alright... so now the channels are right, but the program listings are off
[03:47:27] robbins876: like... sportscenter is on movie plex
[03:47:47] xris: robbins876: did you wipe program and channel tables first?
[03:47:56] robbins876: nope... how do i do that?
[03:48:12] xris: open mysql client: DELETE FROM program; DELETE FROM channel;
[03:48:32] sphery: The channels were deleted for you if you used the delete all button to delete video sources
[03:48:36] robbins876: what?!
[03:48:39] robbins876: i mean, what?
[03:48:47] robbins876: delete all button where, sphery?
[03:48:53] sphery: In mythtv-setup
[03:49:06] robbins876: oh, ok... and just start over with a new video source?
[03:49:10] sphery: Yeah.
[03:49:14] sphery: Much cleaner approach.
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[03:49:35] sphery: However, as xris said, you should delete your programs listings (DELETE FROM program;)
[03:49:43] dmz: ugh this is frustrating. anyone know how i can determine what kind of remote i have? (old old dish setup)
[03:49:44] roz: does the video source change since its V4L2?
[03:49:45] robbins876: i have no idea how to do that
[03:50:05] roz: i didnt see anything particular...
[03:50:22] sphery: roz: Video source won't. Capture card might.
[03:50:44] roz: sphery: thats what i meant, sorry, capture card
[03:50:54] sphery: dmz: trying to get a LIRC config for a DISH receiver?
[03:51:00] sphery: If so, what receiver?
[03:51:39] roz: sphery: what does this mean? AutoExpire: Found 0 recorders w/max rate of 0 MiB/min
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[03:52:05] sphery: roz: If you're upgrading, you should probably do a Delete All to delete all capture cards in mythtv-setup and then Delete All for video sources, then recreate capture cards, video sources, channels, and input connections
[03:52:07] nandy_: why, why was i programmed to feel pain
[03:52:20] Elephant: Because your programmer is a bastard
[03:52:22] dmz: sphery i've tried that
[03:52:31] dmz: sphery but the receiver has no model # on it
[03:52:34] dmz: it's very old
[03:52:48] sphery: Hmmm. Did they have remotes back then?  ;)
[03:52:49] dmz: and the remote only says: echostar 123475322-aa
[03:54:23] dmz: ahh found a model, 2700
[03:54:26] sphery: Yeah, I think that's the serial number, not a model.
[03:54:28] sphery: Oh, cool.
[03:56:39] sphery: That should work with the same config as my 4922 and my 311.
[03:56:46] sphery: One sec and I'll get you a copy.
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[04:00:31] sphery: dmz: Try this one: http://misc.thirdcontact.com/MythTV/lircd.conf
[04:00:47] sphery: You may need to adjust the gap to match your processor.
[04:01:21] sphery: Also, I've heard that the dish6 is actually channel 5 instead of 6, but I use 1 and 9 for mine (1 should be the default).
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[04:02:34] robbins876: ok, so now the channel lineups are correct, and the program line up is right
[04:02:37] roz: sphery: i am somwhere... the user i was running mythsetup as couldn't access /dev/v4l/video0
[04:02:41] robbins876: but it doesn't have the channel names or icons
[04:02:46] roz: so it couldnt probe the inputs
[04:02:49] robbins876: in the guide or the OSD
[04:03:29] sphery: dmz: It's not the best one, but it works. Endaf Jones made a better one at http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/196566#196566 , but I haven't played with it.
[04:04:11] sphery: He also has discrete on/off codes, but they require a lot of delay after using them, so I haven't messed with them.
[04:04:59] robbins876: and myth is still just randomly freezing
[04:05:03] robbins876: especially in the guide
[04:05:16] robbins876: i can only scroll through about 2 channels before it completely freezes
[04:05:58] dmz: the 4700 one doesn't work with the 2700
[04:06:29] sphery: robbins876: You can use the channel editor to give them names. Icons through this approach: http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-9.html#ss9.5
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[04:06:40] sphery: But download a newer master_iconmap.xml ( http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . l?format=raw ).
[04:06:59] robbins876: it doesn't name channels automatically?
[04:07:03] sphery: xris has done a lot of good work cleaning it up and improving the master iconmap since 0.20 was released.
[04:07:05] robbins876: i'm pretty sure it did before
[04:07:23] sphery: robbins876: you can also try to do another "mythfilldatabase --do-channel-updates" and see if it gets the names.
[04:07:39] sphery: dmz: Did you modify the gap?
[04:07:48] sphery: keep playing with it and it should work.
[04:08:04] sphery: The 2700 uses the same remote codes as the 4700 from what I understand.
[04:08:57] sphery: roz: sounds like you need to set up a udev rule to ensure the desired ownership/permissions for the devices.
[04:09:28] roz: no i just had to add the user to the appropriate group :) usually i run mythsetup as root.
[04:10:06] roz: but i do have a problem with a device getting the wrong permissions .... have any info on that?
[04:12:01] zoibee: chmod a+r /dev/v41/video0 ?
[04:12:10] dmz: hmm
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[04:12:46] Ediehow: anyone using an ir blaster and remote?
[04:13:01] dmz: sphery what should i try to do with the gap?
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[04:13:51] sphery: roz: for permissions, the best I can give you is http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html . It's got all the info you need, but it takes some reading/learning.
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[04:14:09] sphery: The exact usage is specific to the configuration you inherited from your distro.
[04:14:47] roz: sphery: I will look at it. Thanks. One other (hopefully simple issue).... TV Card is working now.
[04:15:00] dmz: sphery with default gap i get "too short a gap"
[04:15:14] dmz: and gap=100000
[04:15:35] sphery: dmz: My processor is an Athlon XP 2000+ and works with that gap. If you have a faster processor, try a longer (larger) gap. If you have a slower processor, try a shorter gap.
[04:15:51] roz: sphery: When i playback my old recordings, or view live tv, my scale is way way off. no matter what i hit 'W' to cycle through, nothing is correct, its like squished.
[04:15:59] roz: or cropped, or both
[04:16:10] sphery: Try modifying it by 10K or 20K and then fine tune once you start seeing some of the keys recognized.
[04:16:46] sphery: roz: did you set an aspect ratio override?
[04:17:23] roz: sphery: is that what the "w" key does?
[04:17:44] roz: sphery: i cycled through all the "w" key options. None were correct.
[04:18:06] roz: sphery: i always left it off before
[04:18:12] sphery: No, w just selects an zoom mode.
[04:18:34] sphery: An aspect ratio override tells Myth to ignore the X configuration and do it wrong--I mean differently...
[04:18:37] sphery: :)
[04:18:40] sphery: What does xdpyinfo | grep -A 1 dimensions
[04:18:43] sphery: give
[04:19:39] dmz: it's so frustrating
[04:19:58] sphery: Also, "Aspect Override" is in frontend settings, Playback, General Playback
[04:20:29] roz: maybe i need to set one?
[04:20:32] sphery: dmz: I agree. Took me forever to get it working. On the bright side, as soon as I finish building my new HDTV setup, I'm dropping DISH and going OTA-only.  :D
[04:20:40] dmz: i can't get it to do anything
[04:20:42] roz: i will go see what the output of that command is
[04:20:45] sphery: roz: No override. Override is bad. :)
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[04:21:04] sphery: roz: What do you get with: xdpyinfo | grep -A 1 dimensions
[04:22:08] zoibee: it would have been nice if mythtv stretched vertical. To zoom to "real" 16:9 in livetv.(lose the black borders on the top and bottom)
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[04:22:48] sphery: zoibee: You get that with 4:3 zoom
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[04:23:19] dmz: sphery i had it working with my old remote (just plugged in and it worked)
[04:23:23] sphery: Or do you mean to stretch 16:9 vertically to fit a 4:3 monitor. I think that's 16:9 zoom.
[04:23:23] dmz: this is just frustrating
[04:23:28] roz: sphery: I get 640x480, which is correct
[04:23:38] sphery: roz: I need the exact output.
[04:23:52] sphery: I need the resolution, physical size, and the DPI.
[04:24:03] roz: ok]
[04:24:19] sphery: dmz: what old remote?
[04:24:33] dmz: echostar 123475322-aa
[04:25:09] zoibee: sphery: i have a 16:9 tv, 4:3 tv is fitting the screen, but if i use 4:3 zoom it will fit vertically, but then i lose quite a bit on each side
[04:25:18] roz: dimensions: 640x480 pixels (217x163 millimeters)
[04:25:18] roz: resolution: 75x75 dots per inch
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[04:25:50] sphery: roz: You have a 4:3 TV, right?
[04:26:31] roz: sphery: yep
[04:27:11] sphery: zoibee: It sounds like you may also have an aspect ratio configuration issue.
[04:27:45] roz: exactly opposite problems here :)
[04:28:26] sphery: roz: Your aspect ratio is properly specified in X, so it should be working properly in Myth.
[04:29:14] sphery: Which means you likely either have specified an Aspect Override, a GUI size and video uses GUI size, or something else like that.
[04:29:29] sphery: Check your frontend appearance and playback settings carefully.
[04:30:05] zoibee: sphery: is 4:3 zoom suppose to zoom _only_ vertically?
[04:30:24] sphery: zoibee: I would guess that X thinks you have a 4:3 TV. You need to configure X so that it knows the TV is 16:9.
[04:31:11] sphery: 4:3 zoom crops the letterbox black bars from the video when a 16:9 show is broadcast letterboxed in a 4:3 format
[04:32:11] sphery: I think 16:9 zoom crops the pillarbox black bars from the (sides of) the video when a 4:3 show is broadcast pillarboxed in a 16:9 format (although I've never used it because I only have 4:3 format sources)
[04:32:30] sphery: They're basically pre-defined crop settings.
[04:32:45] sphery: Did that make any sense?
[04:33:26] sphery: roz, you may also want to try configuring your system to use 800x600, instead of 640x480.
[04:33:39] zoibee: some tv-channels is broadcasting in 16:9, so it`s quite annoying with the black borders :P
[04:33:47] sphery: Even with the scaling, I had a much better picture that way because there were more pixels to deal with.
[04:34:17] sphery: zoibee: what do you get with: xdpyinfo | grep -A 1 dimensions
[04:35:49] zoibee: 1024x768
[04:36:16] sphery: what about the rest?
[04:36:30] sphery: I need physical size and DPI, too.
[04:37:04] roz: sphery: Thats exactly what i was thinking, go to 800x600
[04:37:06] zoibee: dimensions1 1024x768 pixels (347x260 millimeters)
[04:37:19] zoibee: resolution1 75x75 data per inch
[04:37:32] sphery: zoibee: NVIDIA card?
[04:37:39] zoibee: yep
[04:37:50] sphery: One sec and I'll have the fix for you...
[04:37:58] zoibee: :P
[04:39:53] sphery: Math is hard after midnight...
[04:39:58] zoibee: hehe
[04:40:01] sphery: Will be more than a sec...
[04:40:24] zoibee: the time is 06:36 here.. been up all night
[04:40:32] zoibee: so.. its going to be a _long_ day
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[04:45:41] roz: sphery: no change in 800x600 :(
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[04:46:33] sphery: zoibee: Add the info at the following location to the monitor section of your X configuration file. http://pastebin.ca/209434
[04:46:52] sphery: If you have an Option "DPI" or a DisplaySize line, make sure you remove it or comment it out.
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[04:47:41] zoibee: ive tried with DisplaySize 400 225, but removed it :P
[04:47:42] sphery: Don't worry about the fact that it's not 100x100 DPI (which MythTV 0.20 and below require) because you're not currently using 100x100DPI ;) and the next version won't require it.
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[04:48:38] sphery: zoibee: DisplaySize is ignored if you specify DPI. DPI is ignored if you use NVIDIA drivers 8576 (I think) and above unless you tell it to ignore the EDID info.
[04:49:17] sphery: Try it with the settings I gave, make sure you didn't specify an Aspect Override (in playback settings) and it should work well for you.
[04:49:31] sphery: Also, with the values I gave, you should even have the same font size.
[04:49:42] roz: sphery: any ideas for me to try?
[04:50:12] zoibee: sphery: so i just have to insert those to lines?
[04:50:13] roz: sphery: i overrode to 640x480 for the video, still the same...
[04:50:35] zoibee: 2 sec i just changed the resolution to 1024x576..
[04:50:41] zoibee: so i have to change it back
[04:51:04] sphery: roz: The settings you have are correct for the TV's aspect ratio, so Myth is computing the video size correctly.
[04:51:34] sphery: It's possible, though, that you've got an overscan setting in Myth or in the X config or in the nvidia-settings program that's messing things up.
[04:51:49] sphery: zoibee: Yeah, just add them and ensure that you don't have duplicates.
[04:52:42] roz: i am on an ATI. i checked all those overscan settings, all set to 0 in myth
[04:52:49] sphery: zoibee: If you use the settings I gave, it does mean that your 4:3 TV will not be stretched by default (it will be pillarboxed) and you'll have to use zoom to stretch it.
[04:52:59] sphery: However, your 16:9 TV will fit the screen perfectly.
[04:53:24] sphery: (Where by TV I mean TV shows from a 16:9 or 4:3 source)
[04:53:44] roz: all the overscan /position adjust items are 0 in the xorg.conf file too
[04:54:09] zoibee: sphery: thanks, i just realized i`ve tried that before, but not using "w" to change the view
[04:54:19] zoibee: YEEH!
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[04:54:56] sphery: Cool.
[04:55:13] sphery: Well, I helped someone. Unfortunately, I'm running out of ideas for roz...
[04:55:45] sphery: roz: any chance you have a digital camera? If so, a picture of the issue may make it easier to figure out.
[04:56:50] roz: Oh, I do
[04:57:17] sphery: If you don't have a webserver to post to, you can e-mail me a pic at mtdean at thirdcontact com
[04:59:00] zoibee: sphery: but ivtv shall capture 4:3 right?
[04:59:07] sphery: right
[04:59:10] zoibee: :P
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[04:59:20] sphery: What we did only affect playback.
[04:59:25] roz: my ivtv records at 720x480
[04:59:47] sphery: Yeah, but it's 4:3 with a non-square pixel
[04:59:56] roz: correct
[05:00:12] zoibee: i know it does, but i was wondering if i should set aspect to 3
[05:00:46] roz: im missing about the bottom 1/3 or 1/2 of the screen
[05:01:03] sphery: You mean set the aspect override so the 4:3 is always zoomed?
[05:01:06] sphery: You can do that.
[05:01:31] zoibee: sphery: i think i will leave it as it is for know
[05:01:57] zoibee: but do you know where i set the ivtv volume permanently?
[05:02:00] sphery: Yeah. I like my 4:3 played at 4:3. When stretched, people look short and fat.
[05:02:15] zoibee: :)
[05:02:27] sphery: I know you can set it in the recording profile.
[05:02:43] sphery: I don't remember if there's also a per-capture-card setting...
[05:03:10] sphery: I don't think so (because many people complain that one PVR-150 is much quieter than a PVR-350 on the same system or whatever).
[05:03:41] zoibee: i`ve specified it with ivtvctl -y volume=60000 because the startup volume is a bit to low
[05:03:58] zoibee: but probably it`s just in the recording setting
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[05:05:16] zoibee: it was :)
[05:06:28] roz: sphery: http://web.zerocoolhideout.net:2600/~roz/IMG_3274.JPG
[05:08:10] kambei: sphery: What do you mean by quieter?
[05:08:36] zoibee: quiet, more quiet :)
[05:09:15] zoibee: but that makes no sense...
[05:09:29] zoibee: quicker probably? :)
[05:11:25] sphery: kambei: meant that a PVR-x50 records an audio stream that's barely audible at the same playback volume setting used to comfortably play back a recording from a PVR-y50.
[05:12:28] sphery: I think the 250's and 350's record the stream louder than 150's and 500's with the same ivtv volume setting, but I may have it backwards.
[05:12:48] roz: see the picture sphery?
[05:12:59] sphery: Even sometimes having the same card type, volume levels will be different between two different cards.
[05:13:06] sphery: roz: Yeah, trying to figure out what I'm seeing.
[05:13:15] sphery: It almost looks like it's cutting off the bottom?
[05:13:17] roz: well the bottom is cut off
[05:13:18] roz: yep
[05:13:19] roz: and
[05:13:21] sphery: OK.
[05:13:22] roz: some of the right
[05:13:26] sphery: OK.
[05:13:28] roz: just a bit
[05:13:39] roz: and its stretched vertically
[05:13:56] roz: the position rectangle, is nearly a square
[05:14:26] sphery: What's a position rectangle?
[05:14:30] sphery: OSD?
[05:14:38] roz: yeah in the upper right
[05:14:46] roz: like where you are in a recording
[05:15:07] sphery: I don't think that's on the picture you sent me, but I think I know what you mean.
[05:15:15] sphery: (the pic has time and channel)
[05:15:19] roz: right its not
[05:15:30] sphery: DO you have "Use GUI size for TV playback" enabled?
[05:15:34] roz: but even that text you see is vertically streched
[05:15:36] roz: yes i do
[05:15:43] roz: and the GUI looks great
[05:16:03] sphery: Do you use "GUI X/Y offset"?
[05:16:15] roz: lemme look
[05:16:24] sphery: Should be the same page.
[05:16:39] sphery: While you're there, please disable Use GUI size for TV playback.
[05:17:19] roz: all are at 0, i will try that
[05:18:24] roz: i tried that looks the same, jno change
[05:19:37] sphery: Did you also set GUI width/height to 0?
[05:19:43] roz: yep
[05:19:47] sphery: (0 means full screen)
[05:19:57] roz: makes sense
[05:20:14] sphery: So, width, height, X and Y offset are all 0 and GUI Size for TV playback is disabled?
[05:20:24] roz: correct
[05:20:34] roz: (so it should use full screen)
[05:20:41] roz: thats what it says anyway
[05:20:45] sphery: And you're losing more image on the right/bottom than on the left/top?
[05:20:59] roz: i do believe so, i know i have all the top
[05:21:05] roz: hard to tell left to right
[05:21:23] roz: also on the next screen
[05:21:34] roz: thats turned off too
[05:21:41] sphery: Do you have Run the frontend in a window set?
[05:21:46] sphery: If so, please disable it.
[05:21:59] roz: the use separate sizes is disabled
[05:22:03] roz: run in a window is disabled
[05:22:42] sphery: OK, can you now restart your frontend (and, if possible, X)
[05:22:55] roz: sure
[05:23:14] sphery: The width/height and X/Y offsets require a restart
[05:24:36] roz: no change
[05:24:41] sphery: Hmmm.
[05:24:53] roz: yeah thats where I am at ;) Hmmm.
[05:25:12] sphery: If it's not working with those settings, I don't know what would be causing it.
[05:25:50] sphery: Are you sure the recording has the entire picture? Have you tried playing it back not fullscreen in a media player on a computer monitor?
[05:26:13] roz: all the recordings and live TV are working on another Frontend
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[05:26:33] sphery: And playing those same recordings in this frontend cuts them off?
[05:26:52] roz: yep
[05:27:00] sphery: OK, do you have Display live preview of recordings enabled?
[05:27:06] roz: yes
[05:27:10] roz: and it looks ok :)
[05:27:16] sphery: And it's in the right place?
[05:27:23] roz: let me take a closer look
[05:27:28] sphery: Not in the upper left corner?
[05:28:27] roz: yep its in the right spot
[05:28:46] roz: and its not cropped
[05:29:13] roz: can you play a nuv with mplayer?
[05:30:02] sphery: Some ATI cards/drivers/something have scaling issues. One symptom of the problem is a broken live preview. Another is the video playback being cropped at the right/bottom.
[05:30:10] sphery: I'm thinking you're getting hit by this.
[05:30:42] sphery: You might want to try newer (and possibly older) driver versions, or just break down and go get an NVIDIA GF4MX440 or GF5200.
[05:30:43] roz: oh
[05:30:49] roz: I just tried this:
[05:30:58] sphery: IMHO, the $20–40 is well worth it.  :)
[05:31:14] sphery: You said you have a PVR-x50, right?
[05:31:16] roz: opened up an avi...
[05:31:19] roz: in mplayer
[05:31:26] roz: hit "f" to go full screen
[05:31:40] roz: and it went "black screen", but the video did not change size
[05:32:17] roz: video just stayed right where my window was
[05:32:29] sphery: Sounds a lot like a broken hardware scaler. Don't know if ATI has a driver version that works with your card.
[05:32:49] sphery: I'm almost positive that sticking an NVIDIA card in there would fix all the issues for you
[05:33:02] roz: i hate ati cards :-P
[05:33:05] sphery: (and then you could go back and set all the GUI settings we disabled so your GUI looks good again)
[05:34:14] roz: at least now i knw what the problem is
[05:34:17] sphery: Yeah. It's worse for me. I love ATI cards. I hate ATI Linux drivers. I used to hate NVIDIA cards, but I've grown to love them because their drivers are actually usable.
[05:34:30] roz: that they are
[05:34:52] roz: when i build a linux system, or tell someone what to buy... Nvidia card and SBLive
[05:35:02] roz: i hate messing with anything else
[05:35:03] sphery: Definitely good advice.
[05:35:51] sphery: Until Myth, I always used the open-source drivers. So, I always had poor video performance, but it never bothered me because I didn't do anything that required it.
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[05:36:19] sphery: Now, I've started using NVIDIA drivers on a lot of my systems (which involved buying a lot of NVIDIA cards).
[05:36:26] roz: so i'm somwewhere on that problem and thats enough for tonight.... LOL
[05:36:31] roz: its been a long week w/o myth
[05:36:32] ** sphery won't admit he has 11 desktops and 1 laptop in his house... **
[05:36:38] roz: GCC 4.1 upgrade
[05:36:42] sphery: Wow.
[05:37:06] zoibee: 11 desktops...
[05:37:09] roz: which encompassed a full system recompile
[05:37:10] zoibee: whats the point? :P
[05:37:14] sphery: I'm in the process of building the OS for my new Myth box. I'm so close to done I can taste it, but still have a few hours to go...
[05:37:40] roz: you know I cant complain, gentoo keeps my downtime to amin most of the time
[05:37:59] roz: unlike something like redhat
[05:38:07] roz: you have to reinstall and reconfigure every six months
[05:38:11] sphery: I've been wanting to do this for over a year now (got the HDTV, 4xHD3000, really nice new frontend, good new backend, 2.1TB storage and it's been sitting around unused).
[05:38:13] roz: no...
[05:38:13] zoibee: sphery: do you have several tv capture cards to?
[05:38:33] roz: i am looking to get the HD3000 to add on
[05:39:00] sphery: Right now I only have 1 PVR-250 and 1 PVR-350 installed because I have DISH and didn't want to pay for more than 2 receivers.
[05:39:11] sphery: I have 2xPVR-150's sitting on the floor of my office, too.
[05:39:15] roz: lol
[05:39:22] zoibee: :)
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[05:39:39] sphery: All of them will go in the computer junk room once I get the HDTV system in place (with 4xHD3000)
[05:39:53] roz: hehe
[05:40:14] roz: but you arent gonna get many channels over the HD3000?
[05:40:23] roz: im only gonna get like 3 or 4 i think
[05:40:45] zoibee: i want to build a killer mythbackend server to...
[05:40:46] sphery: I have DISH network but only have the local (free) channels (that cost me $15/mo from DISH).
[05:41:08] sphery: So, I'll get all the same channels I have now, but without the $15/mo /and/ they'll by high-def.  :)
[05:41:09] zoibee: but i`ll wait untill hdtv is coming
[05:41:15] roz: do you really watch that much local?
[05:41:28] roz: i kmean most of the stuff i watch is network tv too
[05:41:32] sphery: Yeah. If it's all you get.  :)
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[05:41:50] sphery: Tons of PBS, and I've gotten into several of the primetime shows.
[05:41:59] roz: but not all 4 channels once
[05:42:03] roz: at once*
[05:42:27] sphery: Miss Discovery channel, TLC, History, Sci-Fi, but they're not worth $40/mo
[05:42:47] sphery: The 4 cards are more for playing and "just in case" than a real need.
[05:42:49] roz: Food TV for me
[05:43:27] sphery: Wanted to buy more than I need in case I can't buy them in the future (because of broadcast flag/whatever).
[05:43:35] sphery: Oh, yeah. I really miss Good Eats!
[05:44:11] sphery: The Sci-Fi I can live without because I buy SG-1 and Atlantis on DVD and borrow a friend's Battlestar.
[05:44:40] sphery: Thought about buying Good Eats, but it's just not the same as buying SG-1 or whatever.
[05:45:39] roz: heard good eats is expensive
[05:45:46] sphery: Really?
[05:45:48] kambei: Are there any decent, supported HD tuners?
[05:46:09] roz: kambei: the HD3000
[05:47:00] roz: sphery: are there any ways to pipe HD content into a box, say from a Satellite/digital cable box?
[05:47:07] roz: like via component video/DVI/HDMI?
[05:47:09] kambei: roz: Thanks.
[05:48:33] sphery: Wow, roz, you're right. Gotta buy direct from Food Network. $249 for 27 DVD's http://store.foodnetwork.com/shop/product.asp . . . ch_type=dept
[05:48:42] sphery: That made up my mind.
[05:49:06] roz: lol wow thats rediculous
[05:49:35] sphery: roz: there's no way you could keep up with encoding (compressing) the signal even if you do find a capture card.
[05:49:53] sphery: Even MPEG-2 HDTV playback is taxing for most processors.
[05:50:08] roz: i see, so component video is already processed out
[05:50:20] roz: what about HDMI?
[05:50:21] sphery: Yeah, component is uncompressed analog data.
[05:50:29] roz: thats aklready been uncomrpessed too?
[05:50:32] sphery: DVI/HDMI is uncompressed digital
[05:50:37] sphery: yep.
[05:50:37] roz: hrm
[05:51:13] roz: Interesting to knopw
[05:51:16] roz: and it all makes sense
[05:51:29] roz: i know you certainly cant compress it
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[05:51:46] sphery: And, uncompressed 1920x1080 @ 30 frames/sec is > 200GiB/hr at 8 bits/pixel.
[05:51:59] sphery: Most video is 12 bits/pixel
[05:52:09] roz: which makes sense all along... that the MPAA et al... wont let that compressed stream out of the box....
[05:52:18] sphery: DVI/HDMI are typically 24 bits/pixel
[05:52:18] netw1z: anyone know how to configure two joysticks?
[05:52:29] netw1z: for xmame?
[05:52:33] sphery: So, if you could at least do the color conversion, it's only 300GiB/hr ;)
[05:53:16] sphery: Then, spend 4 hours CPU time compressing to MPEG-2 or 8 hours compressing to H.264 (which you probably couldn't play back in real time) and you couldn't keep up with it all...
[05:53:35] roz: netw1z: i have not done xmame, only zsnes and snes9x... one was command line, one was in program
[05:53:47] roz: run xmame --help see if theres anything there
[05:53:51] roz: could also check the man pag
[05:53:52] roz: e
[05:53:54] netw1z: yeah.. ive got it rocking in zsnes
[05:54:21] netw1z: but mame isnt being polite about it :) k! back to random lines in mamerc!
[05:57:47] roz: sphery: I am off to bed...... im dog tired
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[06:05:46] kenguru: morning
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[06:07:29] roz: sphery: thanks for all your help
[06:09:55] kenguru: i have problems with epg (imported channels.conf) during mythtv-setup so what data my db is missing?
[06:10:23] kenguru: is xmltvid something that epg needs? it's blank
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[06:11:54] Newuser_75: i need help.anyone available?
[06:12:09] kenguru: just ask.
[06:12:20] Newuser_75: unable to schedule recordings from guide
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[06:12:26] Newuser_75: nothing happens when I set to record
[06:12:37] Newuser_75: but can record once on the channel
[06:12:51] Newuser_75: this is a HD setup with divco card
[06:13:42] Newuser_75: i am totally new to this, but have a second standard def system running fine
[06:15:01] Newuser_75: anyone?
[06:15:20] kenguru: can't help, sorry.
[06:15:52] Newuser_75: any other IRC channels for myth? on fedora 5?
[06:16:30] Newuser_75: keng, u should be able to record HD right?
[06:16:37] Newuser_75: no "flag" settings, etc?
[06:20:14] kenguru: i just got my system working about 5 hours ago.
[06:20:19] netw1z: i still cant get mythgame to show the name of the game rather than the filename in xmame
[06:20:21] kenguru: non-hdtv
[06:20:29] Newuser_75: cool..
[06:20:38] Newuser_75: i have the non-hdtv working great too
[06:20:49] Newuser_75: i am not sure what I missed on this second system
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[06:25:39] kraut: moin
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[06:50:01] tuck3r: when i `modprobe lirc_i2c` i get a bunch of unknown symbols, what could cause that
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[06:53:13] sphery: tuck3r: your lirc_i2c module was compiled for a different kernel from the one you're running
[06:54:10] sphery: kenguru: yes, you need an xmltvid and it should match up with the one for that channel in the XMLTV data (if you're using EIT only, though, I don't know if it's necessary)
[06:54:39] sphery: netw1z: Do you have a romdb? http://www.phaze.org/romdb/
[06:54:57] tuck3r: sphery: I was following the wiki guide that had me install it from apt and compile it
[06:55:09] tuck3r: I removed the apt package and am recompiling
[06:55:47] sphery: I don't know apt, so I can't help with that part.
[06:57:22] tuck3r: sphery: same errors after i recompiled it
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[07:15:37] warthog9: so I've just got my frontend & backend setup and I'm trying to watch tv on the frontend – it's not working – I'm getting this in the mythtvfrontend log: 2006-10–19 00:13:13.847 RingBuf(myth://192.168.1.76:6543/1002_20061019001308.mpg): Taking too long to be allowed to read.. – so I've obviously got something missconfigured, any suggestions on what?
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[07:21:49] tuck3r: http://pastebin.ca/209578 is the log of dmesg after modprobing lirc_i2c
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[07:37:55] rfordinal: I have one question before buying DVB-S PCI card for my mythtv box. With one DVB-S card can I watch and record multiple channels?
[07:41:25] tuck3r: if you have more than one
[07:41:40] tuck3r: one tuner, one channel you can watch or record at one
[07:41:47] tuck3r: s/one/once
[07:42:14] rfordinal: but DVB-S card transport full mutiplex of channels, or not?
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[07:43:26] tuck3r: afaik, no, but never used DVB (so what do i know)
[07:44:32] rfordinal: i have only found this ticket from mythtv http://www.nabble.com/Re:--mythtv-commits--Ti . . . 6413347.html
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[07:52:46] rfordinal: current status: http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/1772
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[07:57:34] ivor: is anyone tidying those patches up?
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[08:13:16] stuarta: morning all
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[08:15:29] Juski: morning stuarta
[08:15:46] stuarta: how are we today?
[08:15:55] Juski: not much left to do for the xpo now :)
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[08:16:13] Juski: nerves are bit frayed.. had a near-miss on the motorway today
[08:16:17] Juski: and you?
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[08:16:42] stuarta: somewhat hungover, bowling with the work lot since so many people are leaving
[08:17:23] Juski: I was busy last night, doing www.juski.co.uk/MythTV.pdf
[08:18:25] stuarta: nice
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[08:19:51] Ediehow: hi
[08:20:00] Ediehow: how to disable screensaver on dishnetwork?
[08:20:16] stuarta: huh?
[08:21:26] liran: morning guys
[08:21:40] netw1z: anyone know how to get two joysticks working in xmame/mythgame?
[08:22:07] liran: i ran memtest86+ all night and came up with 2 error counts, is this "normal" or is it probably the cause for all the crashing i've been experiencing?
[08:22:32] liran: by "normal" i mean that maybe all cards have some errors here and there
[08:22:46] stuarta: memory errors are bad.
[08:23:08] stuarta: -ENOCAFFEINE
[08:23:16] ** stuarta goes for breakfast **
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[08:25:30] Dagmar: Any errors are bad
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[08:27:57] scopeuk: dry cereal adn black tea dont cut it
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[08:29:41] ** ivor strips off his Lycra **
[08:30:01] ** scopeuk blinks **
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[08:43:18] ** scopeuk is now happy got some milk of a flat mate **
[08:43:28] scopeuk: viv la tea
[08:44:23] kenguru: is xmltvid a right term for a program guide if i ask that from a cable network company?
[08:45:18] kenguru: my dvb-c card doesn't find any channels with scan so importing from a channels.conf seems to be a only solution
[08:45:19] scopeuk: kenguru can you tyr and explain that again
[08:45:24] scopeuk: although i think the answer is no
[08:46:09] kenguru: scopeuk, one guy who makes that cable modem and stuff at cable company is in same irc channel. but is that term correct?
[08:46:29] scopeuk: kenguru i dont belive so
[08:46:33] scopeuk: but im not certain
[08:46:42] kenguru: okay.
[08:47:59] liran: hey Dagmar
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[08:48:52] liran: Dagmar: so that single memory error i see with memtest could cause all the problems?
[08:51:10] Dagmar: Yes.
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[09:01:58] liran: ok ill get it replaces.
[09:02:01] liran: err, replaced.
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[09:06:30] awilkins: Is there a global "quit" key for the frontend?
[09:07:10] quicksilver: you mean 'quit in one go no matter how deep in submenus you are'?
[09:07:20] quicksilver: I just hammer escape a few times
[09:07:23] ** quicksilver smiles **
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[09:10:03] awilkins: Bah, I've been using the "power" button on my remote to execute a shell script that just kills the xinit process that Myth is running in, but I'm changing to mythwelcome and I just wanted it to behave at least slightly similar for my main user group (my 2 year onld and my mother-in-law)
[09:10:26] awilkins: Not the she ever bloody well turns it off anyway, the old bat.
[09:10:54] stuarta: there's probably a command you can issue on the telnet interface to do that.
[09:11:09] awilkins: I get home and find LiveTv has been recording about 10 hours of "The Fimbles" in my absence
[09:12:00] quicksilver: everybody's been talking about mythwelcome the last few days and I don't have a clue what it is
[09:12:04] ** quicksilver googles it **
[09:13:26] awilkins: It's basically a replacement for the hodgepodge of shell scripts that I have governing myths wakeup/gotosleep behaviour at the moment.
[09:13:59] ** quicksilver nods **
[09:14:08] quicksilver: I haven't tried to do wakeups/shutdowns
[09:14:11] awilkins: Like "frontend-flipflop.sh" which determines whether the frontend is running and makes it the other way around.
[09:14:25] quicksilver: I've been focussing more on reducing power consumption so it idles peacefully
[09:14:28] quicksilver: and turning fans off
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[09:14:45] quicksilver: have you managed to make boot time reasonably fast? that's one thing that put me off tryinga shutdown approach
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[09:14:52] awilkins: Nothing reduces power consumption like turning it off....
[09:15:14] awilkins: Well, theres init-ng
[09:15:18] awilkins: Which I don't use yet
[09:15:40] awilkins: And that old standby, trimming so much off your kernel it pleads for mercy.
[09:16:20] ** quicksilver nods **
[09:16:30] quicksilver: it's all the hotplug/pci-autosense type stuff that takes a while
[09:16:32] quicksilver: and DHCP
[09:16:43] awilkins: The telnet interface lacks the ability to do it ; what it needs is a new jumppoint for "drop dead right now no matter what you are doing"
[09:16:57] quicksilver: are you driving telnet via expect or similar?
[09:17:04] awilkins: Ah, well, the fix for DHCP is to use a fixed IP address.
[09:17:07] quicksilver: true
[09:17:09] stuarta: why not code it up?
[09:17:10] quicksilver: easy enough to do
[09:17:15] quicksilver: just dhcp is so simple and elegant
[09:17:36] stuarta: just tell dhcp to always give the same address to that machine
[09:17:48] awilkins: I use DHCP but my router doesn't take very long to assign the lease
[09:18:17] quicksilver: there is some stupid interaction between my router and linux dhcp
[09:18:31] quicksilver: it replies instantly to the first request but the linux machine decides to ignore that response
[09:18:36] quicksilver: and ask 6 more times or so
[09:18:37] awilkins: Go for the fixed IP address.
[09:18:41] quicksilver: I've not bothered to understand why :)
[09:18:43] stuarta: try a different dhcp client, there are several around
[09:19:04] awilkins: Or reflash your router with one of the OSS firmwares.
[09:19:11] awilkins: OpenWRT is very nice.
[09:19:34] stuarta: is there an alternate firmware for netgear routers
[09:20:08] awilkins: http://wiki.openwrt.org/TableOfHardware
[09:20:42] awilkins: From the look of that table, I wouldn't go for it right now.... not for Netgear
[09:21:24] stuarta: the official netgear firmware is crap.
[09:21:31] awilkins: I was going to buy a new router until I found that though... all I wanted was WOL support.
[09:21:51] awilkins: Now I have WOL support, built in IRC client, etc etc etc
[09:23:01] awilkins: Having SSH on your router is very nice, you don't have to have a maching on at home anymore to do things like tunnel your browser traffic through an encrypted tunnel at work.
[09:23:42] awilkins: Stupid network policy at work won't let us use any of the common webmail providers
[09:24:04] ** awilkins flips IT services the bird **
[09:30:04] quicksilver: I think it's a sensible policy
[09:30:15] quicksilver: it stops fuckwits wasting company time by sending porn to their mates on yahoo
[09:30:22] quicksilver: but clueful people can easily make a tunnel :P
[09:32:39] awilkins: Heh, they just migrated us all to one gigantic IMAP server too
[09:32:55] awilkins: Since we are a huge goverment department, it's creaking a bit.
[09:33:46] awilkins: Ah well, ours it not to reason why
[09:34:37] quicksilver: better that than one gigantic exchange server i would suggest
[09:36:00] Juski: gonna have another bash at getting nx working this lunchytime
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[09:36:42] quicksilver: nz?
[09:36:44] quicksilver: nx?
[09:39:04] awilkins: That remote desktop thing?
[09:39:38] Juski: aye
[09:39:50] awilkins: I've seen that used, it's mondo impressive. Really low latency. I thought it was better than MS RDP and that is saying something.
[09:40:20] awilkins: I would really like to see a Windows NX server, but I have a feeling that it has... architectural differences.
[09:40:24] Juski: I've got it running alright.. just can't bloody do owt with it
[09:42:16] ivor: I always end up just falling back to running X over ssh.
[09:42:20] ivor: it just works.
[09:43:05] quicksilver: how much of it is open source? A quick read of their web pages fails to make it clear to me
[09:43:52] kenguru: does anyone know what psi/si epg data is ?
[09:44:11] kenguru: i heard local cable company doesn't send xmltvid yet.
[09:45:10] gardengnome: why would they? how does the xmltv id relate to your local cable company?
[09:45:27] qu0zl: ivor, bit out-of-context for the mythtv channel, but i was trying to run a cle266 with a 1280x1024 panel at 1024x768 and it refused to do non-native resolutions. Is there a simple work-around? I doubt it, but worth asking :)
[09:45:40] qu0zl: openchrome driver of course
[09:46:14] stuarta: kenguru: yes, what you want to know?
[09:46:32] kenguru: i don't know i just asked but they said they have been think to deliver a partly missing epg information on those channels what won't provide it to replace it with xmltvid (said another term but same thing)
[09:47:10] stuarta: hrm...
[09:47:13] kenguru: stuarta, dvb-c card, imported channels.conf at mythtv-setup janneg said something about i have to manually edit database to get EPG working.
[09:47:39] kenguru: or scan known channels again, that doesn't work.
[09:47:54] stuarta: yeah, it's missing all the service id's. scanning doesn't work?
[09:47:57] awilkins: You either need to set the "use eit" flag to 1
[09:48:00] kenguru: nope
[09:48:08] stuarta: which sat?
[09:48:11] awilkins: Or fill in the xmltvid column
[09:48:28] stuarta: awilkins: it needs a little more than just use eit flag
[09:48:42] kenguru: stuarta, dvb-c
[09:49:05] awilkins: stuarta: I've not used DVB-C but DVB-T just seems to work when you switch on the flag.
[09:49:06] stuarta: doh. my bad. which/where dvb-c?
[09:49:44] stuarta: awilkins: yes, cause the channel scanner correctly populates the required values..
[09:50:08] awilkins: Which values are particular to the EIT stream?
[09:50:31] awilkins: I thought it was just another stream on the transport and that the EIT parser could pick it out?
[09:50:42] stuarta: it needs the serviceid, since the eit data is keyed on netid/tsid/serviceid
[09:51:20] stuarta: you are correct. the data is just there in the stream, and we pick it out and process it.
[09:51:43] stuarta: but the channels need to have the service id set, so that the data can be matched to the channel
[09:53:30] stuarta: bit like trying to deliver letters to houses on a street with no numbers
[09:57:31] awilkins: I thought he said he imported channels.conf though – that has the service IDs in, no?
[09:57:42] stuarta: no
[09:57:58] awilkins: I must be thinking about a different field
[09:58:12] awilkins: Is that part of the transport data?
[09:59:16] stuarta: it's the program number we need
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[10:07:48] awilkins: serviceid?
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[10:08:57] awilkins: Aha, so you can et that from tuning to the transport and running dvbscan in -c mode, yes?
[10:11:08] stuarta: yep.
[10:23:50] ** awilkins has fixed his "mythtv box shutting down even when it's transcoding" issue and is now happy **
[10:29:12] ** gardengnome installs the flash 9 beta for linux :) **
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[10:39:10] stuarta: awilkins: okay, it's the orig-netid & tsid that's missing from the channels.conf
[10:41:18] awilkins: auto-scan seems to work just fine for me – although I have trouble with ITV4.
[10:41:50] awilkins: Programs I record on ITV4 eat the expected amount of disk space, but no picture or sound when you view the stream...
[10:42:51] stuarta: what version?
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[10:51:04] srm: hi, i followed V4L Wiki for em28xx (DVB) support and modprobed the drivers. Now, in mythtv-setup i choos DVB-DTV Card and get for Card #0 'Permission denied' ... what to do?
[10:51:32] srm: i'm using the Terratec Cinergy XS Hybrid USB
[10:51:39] qu0zl: check the device permissions on the video card device
[10:51:54] srm: what should they look like?
[10:51:57] qu0zl: you running mythtv-setup as mythtv? Do they have r/w permissions on the /dev/video0 or whatever it's called?
[10:52:10] srm: will check this
[10:52:39] qu0zl: crw-rw---- 1 root video 81, 0 2006-10–18 20:41 /dev/video0 is mine. Mythtv user is a member of 'video' group so permissions are satisfied
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[10:53:15] srm: right, than the problem is that i'm not running as mythtv...was not aware of this...will try this way. what about adding ME to the video group?
[10:54:19] qu0zl: that'd work fine, long as you run everything as your user, and keep an eye out for stuff installed as belonging to mythtv user which you may need to check permissions on
[10:54:36] qu0zl: eg the video storage directories may not be writable by you, but may be by mythtv. that sort of thing
[10:55:11] qu0zl: add yourself to the mythtv group for one thing. that may handle all the problems
[10:55:37] srm: ok...i followed the docs and chmod a+rwx so i would have the permissions...will try first with user mythtv :) thanks, i'll check back
[10:55:57] qu0zl: gl
[10:59:58] Hoxzer: BUt what do you guys think about multi-headed mythbox?
[11:00:12] Hoxzer: is it too hard to build?
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[11:04:06] Juski: seems I'm not alone in being a web 2.0 non-believer: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/10/19/humans_as_pets/
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[11:10:20] Dagmar: Juski: I can go you one better I think... One moment...
[11:10:41] Dagmar: http://www.phreaknic.info/pn10/schedule.html#smashing
[11:10:58] Dagmar: Acidus is doing a thing on what acts of unrepentant evil can be performed with Web 2.0
[11:11:02] Dagmar: Should be a hoot. :)
[11:11:27] Dagmar: Maybe this time he won't be served with a gag order. :)
[11:14:36] Juski: how about links that work in firefox?
[11:14:53] Dagmar: It's just the usual stuff with anchor links
[11:14:59] Juski: the links highlight with mouseovers but I can't cliky
[11:15:14] Dagmar: They're not clickable.
[11:15:30] Dagmar: I'll have to pester Dolemite as to why the hell they prelight tho. That's not helpful to the user.
[11:16:02] Juski: ahhh it's a thingy about some conference or other
[11:17:02] Dagmar: yep
[11:17:42] Dagmar: Acidus is always good for a giggle. He doesn't really pull his punches when he's critiquing something flawed.
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[11:30:14] srm: hmm...i get really choppy playback...init process says: XvMCTex: Init failed
[11:31:36] srm: XvMCTex: Init failed
[11:31:39] srm: sorry
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[11:38:00] Juski: XvMC isn't working on your box then
[11:39:00] Juski: possible reasons.. the xvmc wrapper isn't working properly, the mythtv source is linked to the wrong xvmc libs, or maybe you've not got proper video drivers and lastly, maybe your hardware doesn't support xvmc at all.. IIRC
[11:40:21] Juski: and.. I just figured out how to fix the icon grabber I made the other day, to work with folks who use EIT as opposed to xmltv :)
[11:40:38] Juski: (but only for UK users)
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[11:46:28] quicksilver: If I want to switch on EIT for only some channels (e.g. BBC Radio DVB-Radio channels) can I just twiddle the field in mysql or is there more to it than that?
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[11:50:41] Juski: nope. AFAIK you need another video source for that
[11:51:11] quicksilver: ah
[11:51:36] quicksilver: any chance tv_grab_rt_uk can be sensibly upgraded to suck down the radio data too?
[11:51:45] quicksilver: or do RT not publish that in the friendly XML format?
[11:51:47] Juski: no radio data is available, so no
[11:51:50] ** quicksilver nods **
[11:51:53] quicksilver: shame
[11:51:57] Juski: it used to be
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[11:52:05] quicksilver: so two 'video sources', one for radio and one for TV is the answer?
[11:52:34] Juski: anyway I've been going off xmltv lately. Bloody Alison Daniel ruining plotlines & just her general verbosity
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[11:53:08] Juski: just give me a synopsis of the show dammit. I don't want to read about what you think of a character's taste in decor
[11:53:31] quicksilver: nice wallpaper
[11:55:29] Juski: and for a film, something more akin to "thriller directed by Martin Scorsese about X , 4.5 stars" than "In this, the director's 40th outing (he also directed the lesser known film 'foobar' which I personally preferred to this)... waffle waffle"
[11:55:57] Juski: then I remember you get what you pays for ;-)
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[12:11:53] awilkins: stuarta: Sorry, got sidetracked ; the version of mythtv I was having trouble with ITV4 streams on is a fairly recent revision from the trunk.... I've upgraded since.
[12:12:52] awilkins: stuarta: I have an ITV4 recording scheduled, I shall see if it works soon enough.. but I may also try a bit of LiveTV (which had the same problems, of course)
[12:18:02] fiveiron: my picture in mythtv is all screwed up, but other programs that interface with my tuner show the picture just fine.. anyone ever run into this?
[12:18:47] awilkins: Explain how it's "all screwed up"
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[12:20:06] fiveiron: ok, when i start mythTV and go to "watch TV", its either EXTREMELY dark and muffled looking, or the picture has weird lines all over it and you can't make anything out
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[12:20:24] fiveiron: but i just discovered that if i start watching tv and THEN fire up TVTime, the picture starts to come in fine
[12:20:35] fiveiron: like myth isn't configuring the v4l device correctly or something
[12:21:07] fiveiron: and if i close TV time and switch channels in myth, it goes back to being all messed up
[12:22:33] fiveiron: hmm... even if i leave TVTime open and i change channels in mythTV it screws the picture up
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[12:23:42] fiveiron: bleh... gotta run to work... pm me if you have any idea tho...
[12:23:44] fiveiron: :-)
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[12:38:17] jave: can the mouse be made active in the "normal" myth gui?
[12:38:25] Dagmar: Yes.
[12:38:32] jave: cool
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[12:54:43] lupin_sansei: Is it possible to only make commercial flagging run when you are not watching recordings? It tends to make my recordings skip a bit while it's flagging the commercials (of another recording)
[13:04:19] stoffel: iirc at least you can pause the comm. detection
[13:06:19] qu0zl: lupin_sansei, i just set my backend to only run commercial flagging jobs between 3am and 10am
[13:06:32] lupin_sansei: cool, how do you do that?
[13:07:59] qu0zl: it's a setting somewhere :) where i can't remember. mythfrontend not mythtv-setup i think though
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[13:11:22] Paladine: hmmm I am confused
[13:11:32] Paladine: I recorded Sg1 and SGA last night
[13:11:41] Paladine: they appear in the recordings list
[13:11:51] Paladine: but when I try to find them they say files can't be found
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[13:12:21] Paladine: so I go to my myth folder and everything is missing from Oct 02 – Oct 18
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[13:14:14] Paladine: when I go into Programme Details for the recording it is showing MythTV Status as "Recorded"
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[13:16:35] Paladine: the weird thing is I have LiveTV recordings in the folder, just none of the manual recordings appear to be there
[13:16:46] Juski: change the group filter, then
[13:16:56] peter06: hello all, i am rather new to this but I am learning as I go, just wanted to ask I have mythtv input coming from my sky rf1 connector so when i scan i get only one channel which is the channel sky is currently on... to receive all the channels when i scan and being able to change channel, would this involve a remote thing to change the channel from the mythtv box?
[13:17:24] Juski: peter06: yup it would
[13:17:31] Paladine: juski, explain?
[13:17:46] Paladine: I don't see how the group filter will make any difference
[13:17:52] ivor: Paladine: does it happen with all new recordings?
[13:18:07] ivor: if so can you reproduce it whilst checking the backend log
[13:18:37] Juski: oh you said FOLDER, meaning _directory_
[13:18:38] Paladine: it has happened with the last 3 manual recordings I have scheduled
[13:18:51] peter06: Juski : so when i hit channels or scan on the backend setup, would it tell the remote device to change the channel or something ?
[13:19:24] Juski: peter06: no you enter the channels yourself. how could you be able to 'scan' for channels only your sat box has? wouldn't make any sense
[13:19:40] peter06: ah right
[13:20:06] peter06: so how do u tell it when u select channel 2, to tell ur remote device to change the channel?
[13:20:15] peter06: is that an addon
[13:20:19] Juski: with a remote channel change script
[13:20:25] Paladine: peter06 you use lirc and scheduling
[13:20:31] Juski: there's a wiki article about using mythtv with $ky somewhere
[13:20:47] Paladine: it will pull down the sky schedule and determine what channel to tell the sky box to change to
[13:20:49] peter06: if u could point me at that i would be greatful
[13:21:16] peter06: at the mo i told it to use the RadioTimes thingy but it doesn't seem to be getting any kind of details
[13:21:28] Juski: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Script_- . . . nnel_changer
[13:21:46] peter06: thank u
[13:22:03] Juski: you need a means of telling the $ky box to change channels though – and that's usually in the form of an IR blaster you point at the $ky box's IR window
[13:22:13] peter06: the box seems really jurky and not too hot at watching that one channel i have
[13:22:28] peter06: if i put the front end elsewhere would this help ?
[13:22:35] Juski: probably
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[13:23:11] peter06: 256 ram and a 800MHZ
[13:23:12] Juski: you must be using a software encoding card I guess.. they suck
[13:23:13] peter06: so not that good
[13:23:20] peter06: PVR 150
[13:23:28] peter06: but am a bit lost with config
[13:23:29] peter06: lol
[13:23:37] Paladine: peter, what sky box you got?
[13:23:49] peter06: i got a picture tho, by setting the frequence with ivtv-tune
[13:23:59] Juski: pvr150 should be fine.. 800mhz can play back mpeg2 without trouble here
[13:24:01] peter06: i looked on my tv found it was like 551 hz
[13:24:04] Paladine: try using the svideo out on your sky box to the svideo in on your pvr150 and use the RCA audio ports for audio
[13:24:14] peter06: so i set it with ivtv-tune and set it to TVTuner 1 etc
[13:24:15] Juski: I was just gonna say what Paladine said
[13:24:17] peter06: then got a picture
[13:24:28] peter06: ok
[13:25:04] peter06: i was thinking about buying a device i saw on the web which plugs into the RF2 port then gives u usb into the linux box
[13:25:05] peter06: any good ?
[13:25:31] Paladine: peter, just try the svideo route first it is much better imo
[13:25:40] Paladine: thats what I use with my sky box
[13:25:49] peter06: what u use to change the channel ?
[13:26:14] peter06: i will try tonight
[13:26:21] peter06: hopefully u don't have to set a frequencey etc
[13:26:32] peter06: i am getting there slowly, big learning curve but fun
[13:26:40] peter06: plus u all seem helpful ;)
[13:26:41] Paladine: I built a serial IR blaster, but I haven't plugged it in yet, I just schedule everything on my sky box to automatically switch to the right channel, then I use manual recording schedules in mythfrontend to record the channel at the times the shows are on
[13:27:36] Paladine: and no I never had to set a frequency
[13:27:36] peter06: thats a bit much tho
[13:27:41] peter06: have to set it in two places
[13:27:44] peter06: but better than nothing
[13:27:57] Paladine: I just hate rebooting my box, so I have connected my serial port to the motherboard yet
[13:28:04] Paladine: haven't
[13:28:17] peter06: so where do u get the schedule from listings
[13:28:21] peter06: or do u not do that yet ?
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[13:28:47] Juski: this is where I pipe up that you should read some docs. I mean it.
[13:29:05] Paladine: I don't use automatic scheduling yet, but tthere are some docs on the wiki about about auto scheduling for sky
[13:29:24] Paladine: or so I have been led to believe, I haven't actually checked or read them yet :)
[13:29:24] Juski: and there's a bit on the wiki about configuring xmltv in the UK
[13:29:50] Juski: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Uk_xmltv
[13:30:11] stuarta: Juski: you haven't written a script to populate UK channel icons have you?
[13:30:17] Juski: stuarta: almost
[13:30:26] Juski: it works for folks who'd use xmltv :-P
[13:30:46] stuarta: i'll test for those who use EIT :-P
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[13:30:57] Juski: then I realised at the 11th hour that some people use EIT, & it'd be no fkin use for them
[13:31:07] Juski: seen as I lookup the icol URL from the xmltvid
[13:31:13] Juski: s/icol/icon
[13:31:14] stuarta: bugger
[13:31:19] Paladine: ivor, when I look at the info for the recordings they seem to be ending as soon as they start
[13:31:29] Juski: s'ok though. I've got a plan to fix it
[13:31:48] Juski: then all it needs is a bit of mysql magic to update the channel table with the icon location
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[13:32:18] Juski: stuarta: it's a script & lookup table in a text file (separate).. is it possible to put the hash inside the script itself?
[13:32:22] Paladine: ivor, the wierd thing is they were working, I have manual recordings from upto and including Oct 1st
[13:32:27] Paladine: I haven't changed anything
[13:32:36] Paladine: so I don't understand why they suddenly stopped working
[13:32:56] stuarta: Juski: of course, assuming it's in perl (or similar)
[13:33:33] Paladine: and there is 157GB left on the mythtv partition so it is not a space issue
[13:34:11] Juski: stuarta: thought as much :)
[13:34:37] stuarta: look into arrays in perl
[13:36:02] Hexidigital: hi folks. I'm a MythTV noob, so i apologize for the questions.... but i googled for hours yesterday. I am running ubuntu 6.06 as my desktop/server. is it normal at startup to hear the audio from the backend? should i build a separate box for Mythtv?
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[13:38:10] Paladine: ivor, I just set up a test recording it should start in like 10 minutes I will see what mythbackend is doing when it starts
[13:40:12] stuarta: hmmm -> http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds38259.html
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[13:41:44] Hexidigital: my pc froze. if anyone answered my question, i did not see it
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[13:42:06] Juski: yeah I saw that, stuarta. Aussies getting a bum deal on the EPG front yet again
[13:42:35] stuarta: i like to keep an eye on it. since that's where i originate from.
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[13:42:58] Juski: Hexidigital: you should mute the audio input on the soundcard – the input the tv audio is plugged into, but ensure it's still selected to record
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[13:43:29] netw1z: anyone know how to get two joysticks working in xmame/mythgame?
[13:43:58] Hexidigital: Juski: when i play back, doesn't it need that input? or am i thinking about this wrong?
[13:44:23] Dagmar: I'm sure someone knows how to make them work.
[13:44:27] Juski: no, mythtv records everything, so you don't need to be able to hear the live tv audio from the soundcard
[13:44:33] Dagmar: Of course, they probably read the documentation that comes with MAME.
[13:44:41] Hexidigital: Juski: ok. thank you much :)
[13:45:09] Juski: Hexidigital: try reading the documentation – the troubleshooting section where audio is mentioned
[13:45:52] stuarta: hey torchwood starts this weekend.....
[13:45:57] Hexidigital: Juski: gotcha.
[13:45:59] Dagmar: Yes it does
[13:46:48] stuarta: thought it was next weekend, just as well i noticed
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[13:48:17] Paladine: k lets see what happens with this manual recording
[13:49:11] Paladine: nope definitely not working
[13:49:32] Paladine: I am in the scheduled recordings screen at the moment and it indicates it has started recording
[13:50:03] Paladine: but when I go to the watch recordings screen mythbackend is throwing out a bunch of 2006-10–19 14:50:18.596 Error: File '/data/video/1000_20061019145000.mpg' missing.
[13:51:06] Paladine: and there is no file in my mythtv directory and no png
[13:51:19] Paladine: so I wonder whats going on
[13:51:53] stuarta: looks like it didn't record it.
[13:52:13] stuarta: perhaps due to failing to tune or similar
[13:52:18] Paladine: but according to mythfrontend it is recording
[13:52:28] Paladine: it doesn't need to tune it is using svideo in
[13:52:41] stuarta: you'll need to look at the backend logs to see what it's doing.
[13:52:52] Paladine: where's the logs for backend?
[13:53:50] seth|laptop: Juski, the 2. version of PG works with .20 mythtv. I installed it last night, and oila!
[13:56:22] Paladine: anyone know where the mythbackend logs are?
[13:56:34] Dagmar: Wherever you put the
[13:56:35] Dagmar: m
[13:56:37] ivor: yup got mine right here.
[13:56:40] ** ivor points. **
[13:57:10] Paladine: where are they ivor?
[13:57:15] Dagmar: Right there.
[13:57:22] Dagmar: Next to the other thing.
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[13:57:38] Dagmar: They're probably not anywhere near your logs tho.
[13:57:41] Paladine: dagmar, you are not being helpful
[13:57:51] Juski: /var/log/mythtv
[13:57:54] ivor: I put mine in /var/log. look how you start mythbackend. do you use a script
[13:58:03] Dagmar: Eventually you're going to clue into the fact that unless you set things up explicitly to do so, it doesn't keep a log
[13:58:13] Juski: oh yeah there's that too
[13:58:17] Paladine: I don't see any mythtv logs in /var/log
[13:58:20] Dagmar: Cluing into that is something that would happen if you were attempting to look for them yourself.
[13:58:23] Juski: or the logging will be so impotent as to be pointless
[13:58:29] Paladine: and I launch backend manually
[13:58:32] Dagmar: Paladine: then you don't have any logs.
[13:58:49] ivor: mythbackend --help
[13:58:52] Juski: your log will be in the terminal scrollback
[13:59:34] Juski: or not, depending on how deep the buffer is
[13:59:35] Juski: ah well
[13:59:49] Juski: stuarta: so are folks awaiting this icon grabber thingy with baited breath?
[14:00:33] Juski: I'll do my best to get v1.0 out before the weekend
[14:00:51] Juski: and seth|laptop thanks for checking the theme. did you give it a good workout?
[14:02:29] stuarta: not that i know of.
[14:03:15] Juski: stuarta: so far had you & gbee ask about it like it's a done deal or something...
[14:03:31] Juski: started off as a misunderstanding then I decided to make it ;)
[14:03:53] Paladine: weirdness
[14:04:14] stuarta: me & gbee were talking about it yesterday & though you'd already written it :)
[14:04:17] Paladine: mythbackend -d -v all -l /var/log/mythbackend.log <- that is not working
[14:04:26] Paladine: everything is going to stdout
[14:04:38] Juski: the original thing I worked on was a wizard thingy that'd ulitmately be capable of configuring xmltv & channels (and icons) automagically
[14:04:41] Paladine: do I need to touch /var/log/nythbackend.log first?
[14:05:20] stuarta: Paladine: probably permissions. make a /var/log/myth and give access to the myth users
[14:06:33] Juski: work on my automagical configurator thing is on hold for a bit til I get the expo out of t' way
[14:06:34] stuarta: then log to /var/log/myth/mythbackend.log
[14:07:03] seth|laptop: yes, the wife went to bed early last night, the only icon I don't have is the knoppmyth, and Internet Stream, but that is because they are not default
[14:07:07] seth|laptop: juski
[14:07:11] stuarta: Juski: i haven't had icons for 20months. not like i'll mis em
[14:07:14] seth|laptop: sorry, forgot the adressee
[14:07:23] Paladine: stuarta, yeah it was permissions
[14:07:28] Dagmar: Sad how many people try to do this without knowing their butt from a hole in the ground.
[14:07:28] Paladine: k lets try another recording
[14:07:38] Juski: heh. was only recently I gave my frontend the power of icons
[14:08:05] gardengnome: icons are overrated. just give me my star trek recordings and i'm good. ;)
[14:08:06] stuarta: i don't tend to spend much time on bling
[14:08:23] Dagmar: I redid most of my icons because the defaults kinda suck
[14:08:25] stuarta: as long as the functionality works i'm happy.
[14:08:58] seth|laptop: btw I tried the new Internal DVD player last night. And for the most part it worked
[14:08:58] Juski: gardengnome: did you see jams' new screenshots yesterday?
[14:09:11] gardengnome: Juski: nope
[14:09:34] Juski: gardengnome: look in the log if you're bothered. looks like some good work going on :)
[14:09:47] seth|laptop: I bought over the hedge (don't laugh) and went to play it, and near the 2nd to last chapter, it shut off. I can only assume it is the tired old dvd drive in there
[14:09:49] gardengnome: Juski: i'm about to order a new box, i'll look later
[14:11:04] seth|laptop: however, after watching it, I went to put it on the local drive, so that my daughter could watch it on her non-dvd frontend, and it would not transcode. Had to do a "perfect" which worked flawlessly in like 12 minutes. Since I have upgraded to .20, do I need to change settings in the transcode section of the frontend?
[14:12:04] gardengnome: seth|laptop: you've probably neglected to build mtd (myth transcoding daemon) with --enable-transcode
[14:12:19] jams: hi all
[14:12:27] gardengnome: seth|laptop: anyways, you should take a look at the mtd logs
[14:12:40] seth|laptop: hmm, so it working in .19, and not working in .20, there is a step I missed builing it?
[14:12:48] seth|laptop: building even
[14:12:56] gardengnome: seth|laptop: probably. did you compile it yourself?
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[14:13:19] seth|laptop: well yes, I built it from the mythtv.org tarballs, is there a configure option I missed
[14:14:01] seth|laptop: hehe, now that I think of it, It never did ask me to "press any number" to start the daemon
[14:14:05] seth|laptop: doh!
[14:14:36] seth|laptop: !trout self
[14:14:36] ** MythLogBot slaps self with a trout on behalf of seth|laptop... **
[14:15:00] seth|laptop: well that didn't work at all like I had hoped
[14:15:19] stuarta: !trout seth|laptop
[14:15:19] ** MythLogBot slaps seth|laptop with a trout on behalf of stuarta... **
[14:15:29] seth|laptop: ah
[14:15:38] seth|laptop: !trout seth|laptop
[14:15:38] ** MythLogBot slaps seth|laptop with a trout on behalf of seth|laptop... **
[14:15:52] stuarta: !trout seth|laptop really smelly
[14:15:52] ** MythLogBot slaps seth|laptop with a really smelly trout on behalf of stuarta... **
[14:16:01] seth|laptop: hehe
[14:16:21] Paladine: stuarta, k I have changed the logging from all to important, record
[14:16:28] Paladine: cos all is just way too much loginfo
[14:17:05] seth|laptop: so if i recompile mythtv with the --enable-transcode switch, during ./configure, it will work. I will try that when I get home. Thanks.
[14:17:07] stuarta: Paladine: i tend to use record,channel,siparser
[14:21:44] Paladine: I have another test recording starting in 2 minutes
[14:21:49] Paladine: will see what info I get out of the logs
[14:22:17] Juski: so seth|laptop that's pg 2.0 (4:3) getting the thumbs up is it? I cant even remember if I made it look lighter or just the wide one
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[14:23:04] stuarta: Paladine: refresh my memory, the recordings look blank?
[14:23:06] seth|laptop: Juski: yes, and it is slightly (not alot) lighter than the 1.8 version 16:9 that I run on my laptop. Still my favorite theme out of all :-)
[14:23:25] Paladine: stuarta, there is no file
[14:23:26] Juski: right then I did update it then
[14:23:35] Paladine: it says it is recording in the upcoming recordings screen
[14:23:35] seth|laptop: Juski: I just like the style of it.
[14:23:39] stuarta: ah.
[14:23:50] Paladine: but there is no file in the data folder and watch recordings screens gives an error about no file as well
[14:24:36] Paladine: ok it is defintely being weird
[14:25:26] Paladine: http://pastebin.ca/210075
[14:26:15] stuarta: so it's trying to change channels, but failing, and giving up.
[14:26:18] Paladine: I don't understand why it is failing to find channel
[14:26:29] Paladine: livetv is working fine
[14:26:39] Paladine: and manual recordings -were- working
[14:27:07] Juski: does the channel even exist?
[14:27:19] Paladine: yes
[14:27:52] Juski: is the mux id & serviceid correct for it?
[14:28:14] Paladine: juski, it is svideo
[14:28:20] Juski: ahhh.. oops
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[14:28:44] stuarta: you have a channel change script to change channels?
[14:28:57] Juski: try your channel change script & get it to change to the channel that fails
[14:29:57] Paladine: it doesn't change any channels
[14:30:03] Paladine: I only have 1 channel enabled
[14:30:05] Paladine: chanel 1
[14:30:51] Juski: oops
[14:30:52] Paladine: I think I know what the problem is
[14:31:00] Paladine: about to test it
[14:32:05] Juski: tempted to go home early....
[14:32:12] Juski: ahh to hell...
[14:32:15] ** Juski goes home **
[14:32:18] ivor: it's 3.30!!
[14:32:21] ivor: honestly
[14:32:25] ivor: slacker
[14:32:25] ** stuarta thinks about it **
[14:32:42] stuarta: it's my 2nd last day. think i could get away with it
[14:32:47] ivor: you bastards.
[14:33:12] stuarta: i'm going to be concienious and stay longer
[14:33:21] stuarta: -ESPELL
[14:33:24] Paladine: I think it is the "External Channel Change Command" in mythtv-setup that is breaking it
[14:33:31] ivor: I'm going to stay longer, so they pay me.
[14:34:21] stuarta: contractor
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[14:34:40] ivor: indeed. always.
[14:35:08] stuarta: i was, once upon a time. no longer...
[14:41:16] Hoxzer: is it possible to run two frontends in same machine with different configs?
[14:42:19] GreyFoxx: Hoxzer: Sure
[14:42:35] GreyFoxx: just have 2 different mysql.txt and set a different hostname in each of them
[14:42:54] GreyFoxx: settings are stored based on the hostname so if the 2 mysql.txt have different hostnames they have different settings
[14:43:57] Hoxzer: ok ..
[14:45:10] Hoxzer: but but but ...
[14:45:17] GreyFoxx: You can pick the config files either by using 2 different system users each with their own ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt Or set the MYTHCONFDIR variable before starting mythfrontend to tell it where to find the mysql.txt files
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[14:45:51] GreyFoxx: so /home/mythuser1/.mythtv/mysql.txt and /home/mythuser2/.mythtv/mysql.txt or some other combination
[14:46:37] GreyFoxx: and of course MYTHCONFDIR=/path/to/other/.mythtv mythfrontend
[14:46:47] GreyFoxx: to look in /path/to/other/.mythtv for mysql.txt
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[14:47:07] GreyFoxx: I'd say it's simpler to just have 2 different users
[14:47:51] Hoxzer: yeah, that's what I was thinking about
[14:48:23] Hoxzer: ok, I'm just thinking is it possible to actually build dual-head mythbox
[14:48:42] GreyFoxx: Of course it is
[14:48:46] ** stuarta runs one of those **
[14:48:51] Hoxzer: :O
[14:48:55] seth|laptop: BTW, I like the way the new internal dvd player inherits the TV Playback traits. Auomatically goes to "Fill" very nice work.
[14:49:05] GreyFoxx: I use to run 2 frontends on one box. I think there is someone who comes in here that runs 4
[14:49:12] stuarta: simultaneous development & watching of recordings :)
[14:49:18] GreyFoxx: heheh
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[14:49:43] stuarta: or debugging output on 1 head, normal output on the other
[14:49:57] GreyFoxx: yup
[14:50:17] GreyFoxx: plus exporting X displays to another machine if you don't need video for that part of the debugging
[14:50:19] GreyFoxx: I do that a lot
[14:50:20] stuarta: cheapest way i've ever seen to increase developer productivity.
[14:50:47] ivor: doughnuts is another good productivity booster
[14:51:20] stuarta: caffeine
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[14:59:59] Paladine: k fixed it and now I am late for a lecture :)
[14:59:59] Paladine: bbl
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[15:02:31] Neeesat25: Hello
[15:03:31] Neeesat25: I am trying to compile latest mythtv fixes but I get this error: collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[2]: *** [mythreplex] Error 1
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[15:05:12] stuarta: pastebin the error
[15:06:53] Neeesat25: I am recompiling again lets see how it goes
[15:07:29] Neeesat25: I will pastebin the result
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[15:16:31] radi0head:
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[15:20:37] nomats: i'm having problems installing mythtv on ubuntu edgy. mythtv-database won't configure properly. i get "Failed to connect to database: Access denied for user 'root'@'lepek' (using password: YES) at -e line 5, <> line 1." when i try to dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database. the user and password are correct and i have run sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start.
[15:21:47] Juski: ivor: no slacking involved. My flexi is still up 30 mins too
[15:22:07] ivor: mutter mutter
[15:22:47] Juski: helps that I can start at 7am & only take 30 mins for lunch if I want
[15:27:34] Juski: stuarta: when you do a scan in mythtv, are the channel names exactly the same as what I'd see in the output of a dvb scan command? Just so I know what to put in my lookup table
[15:27:58] stuarta: yes, that info comes from the broadcast stream
[15:29:06] Juski: cool. cheers
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[15:37:25] ** ivor was up at 6.30 and took 30 mins for lunch. **
[15:37:31] ivor: humbug
[15:37:51] ** stuarta was up at 6.50 and took 2hrs for lunch **
[15:38:06] ivor: hic?
[15:38:07] ivor: :)
[15:38:17] stuarta: more beer vicar?
[15:38:51] scopeuk: scopeuk wooke up at 9:00 and took an hour for lunch ;-)
[15:39:57] ** Juski isn't 100% sure scopeuk is a real student **
[15:40:15] stuarta: up before lunchtime. what's with that?
[15:40:34] ivor: and he said "woke up" rather than "got back home at"
[15:40:36] scopeuk: stuarta i take my studies far to seriously and go to lectures
[15:40:49] scopeuk: ivor im a very light drinker verging on tee total
[15:40:55] scopeuk: student nights out jsut arnt the same
[15:40:56] ivor: you want to watch that.
[15:41:12] stuarta: Juski: you have your proof. he goes to lectures
[15:41:23] scopeuk: although im techign in the union on friday so im ou til latleast 4 am
[15:41:26] ivor: I didn't do any work and drank constantly... and look at me now!
[15:41:50] stuarta: nothing changed?
[15:42:41] Neeesat25: Can someone see my error in pastebin with name "neo" when trying to compile mythtv?
[15:42:42] qu0zl: you're a stark warning to the youth of today alright Ivor!
[15:43:02] stuarta: Neeesat25: you need to post the link
[15:43:04] Neeesat25: here is the link: http://pastebin.com/809719
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[15:46:52] stuarta: funky XvMC libs
[15:47:52] Neeesat25: hmm Any idea hoe to fix?
[15:48:18] stuarta: is -lXvMC on the link line?
[15:48:50] Neeesat25: you mean in /etc/ld.so.conf?
[15:48:51] ivor: -lXvMCW
[15:49:36] ivor: what was your configure line. what's in your config.mak.
[15:51:19] Neeesat25: CONFIG_AUDIO_ARTS_LIBS=-L/usr/lib -ldl -lartsc -lpthread -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl -lgthread-2.0 -lglib-2.0
[15:51:58] Neeesat25: I dont have that in my config.mak
[15:52:03] Juski: god I need to start using vi again
[15:52:12] ivor: as opposed to?
[15:52:16] scopeuk: Juski why?
[15:52:22] scopeuk: vi is nasty
[15:52:39] ** stuarta loves vi **
[15:52:47] ** stuarta goes home **
[15:52:48] ** scopeuk is glad he doesent have to work on the cluster this year stupid thing requires you to use vi **
[15:52:58] ** ivor uses emacs and vi in equal measure **
[15:53:00] Juski: so I don't have to pick through text file deleting the 1st 3 occurences of |foo|bar|squat by hand
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[15:53:32] Neeesat25: I have this CONFIG_XV_LIBS=-lXinerama -lXv -lX11 -lXext -lXxf86vm
[15:53:33] ivor: pwd
[15:53:35] scopeuk: Juski you can do the same thign with grep
[15:53:51] ** scopeuk likes notepad and nano **
[15:53:56] Juski: scopeuk: yes I know but it's nicer to be able to do it non destructively
[15:54:12] Juski: and vi's regex is powerful
[15:54:27] Juski: like take the 1st 3 fields bounded by | & delete them
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[15:54:30] ** scopeuk doesent know regex so ti whoudletn help **
[15:55:42] Juski: heh
[15:55:47] Juski: almost 2/3 done anyway
[15:56:01] Juski: then I'll do a bit of PERL to sort each line alphabetically
[15:56:19] ivor: cat <foo> | sort
[15:56:25] ** quicksilver points that it's spelt 'Perl' :) **
[15:56:48] Juski: quicksilver: it's that kind of anal retentiveness that's been holding linux back (among other things)
[15:57:05] quicksilver: I somehow doubt it's a key factor
[15:57:14] Juski: I know it's just a natural extension of everything Linux/Unix being case sensitive though
[15:57:15] quicksilver: and I'm pretty sure that was pedantry and not anal retentiveness :P
[15:57:23] Juski: same letters, same spelling, to my mind
[15:57:36] quicksilver: allcaps makes it look like an acronym, I guess
[15:57:46] Juski: never looked at it that way before
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[15:58:06] Juski: when I was a lad, acronyms had dots in em
[15:58:11] quicksilver: Beginners Allpurpose Symbolic Instruction Code
[15:58:25] Juski: spells...
[15:58:26] quicksilver: COmmon Business Oriented Language
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[15:58:31] Juski: disaster for the software industry
[15:58:40] quicksilver: they started the fetish for allcaps program languages I suspect
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[15:59:14] Juski: I wish I could forget everything I learned about programming as a teenager. it was all BASIC, & all bad habits
[15:59:36] Juski: apart from the assembly stuff I did, but then that was 'if it works, it's ok'
[15:59:52] ** scopeuk wishes he could remeber any of the programming he did when he was younger **
[16:00:26] Juski: they still teach BASIC in schools I think.. which is a _bad_ thing IMHO
[16:00:37] Juski: great for instant, gratifying results but not much else
[16:00:48] Juski: 10 print "teacher smells of poo"
[16:00:50] Juski: 20 goto 10
[16:00:53] Juski: muhahahaha
[16:01:06] scopeuk: Juski no we did thatwith vb whilst we were spoe to be recordign macros
[16:01:07] Juski: whereas in C or C++... eek
[16:01:20] scopeuk: and we managed to conviniently simulate a computer crash untill the teacher left the room
[16:01:21] Juski: #include stdio.h
[16:01:34] Juski: #include fileio.h
[16:01:35] Juski: <etc>
[16:01:38] ivor: syntax error line 1:
[16:01:39] quicksilver: int main() { while (1) printf("teacher smells of poo "); }
[16:01:45] quicksilver: still a 1-liner
[16:01:49] scopeuk: java
[16:01:52] scopeuk: al lopening crap
[16:01:53] quicksilver: include files aren't actually necessary
[16:02:03] ** ivor slaps quicksilver **
[16:02:03] Juski: see? I haven't got a clue when it comes to proper programming lol
[16:02:04] quicksilver: for mere function definitions
[16:02:06] Neeesat25: ivor any idea how to fix that error?
[16:02:09] quicksilver: (you need them for types)
[16:02:30] Juski: every book I've ever dived into confuses me from the very 1st chapter
[16:02:37] scopeuk: for (int i=0, i>10, i=i) {System.out.println(teacher smells)}
[16:02:52] scopeuk: oops
[16:02:54] scopeuk: for (int i=0, i>10, i=i) {System.out.println(teacher smells);}
[16:03:08] quicksilver: scopeuk: three syntax errors and some bizarre logic :P
[16:03:20] scopeuk: quicksilver indefinate loop
[16:03:29] scopeuk: and what were the syntex errors
[16:03:31] Juski: I can read code okay (ish) & work out roughly what it's doing, which is kind of how I managed to write a C++ function & had it included in mythtv once
[16:03:46] Juski: but it was mostly just blundering around in the dark
[16:03:52] quicksilver: 1) semicolon (you noticed that) 2) commas in for 3) quotes around string
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[16:03:59] scopeuk: oh bugger
[16:04:03] scopeuk: yes im use to php
[16:04:17] scopeuk: alwasy screw me roudn becosue hte compiler error is not even close to related to it oops
[16:04:25] scopeuk: complaisn about expecting } iirc
[16:04:29] Neeesat25: Juski can you see this error please: http://pastebin.com/809719
[16:04:39] Juski: it was funny when I got my programmer friends to look at it – they didn't know wtf I was doing, including one guy who'd just completed a degree
[16:05:04] Juski: ugh its pastebin.com.. see you in half an hour
[16:05:15] scopeuk: Juski if theres one thing ive learnt in my time here its that a degree meansnothing
[16:05:20] ivor: ?- repeat, display('teacher smells'),nl.
[16:05:30] tRSS: quick question: i am able to play a video on my machine that has frontend & backend but I am unable to play the same movie on a different frontend? Something to do with mplayer?
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[16:05:39] tRSS: this even crashes my backend
[16:05:59] scopeuk: hmm does it expect them to be mounted locally eg via nfs?
[16:06:36] Juski: Neeesat25: put it in pastebin.ca man
[16:06:37] tRSS: scopeuk: that questions for me?
[16:07:00] scopeuk: yes or any one else in the channel who knows
[16:07:34] Juski: tRSS: you need to share the videos directory on your network, either with NFS (best) or Samba
[16:07:37] Neeesat25: here it is: http://pastebin.ca/210195
[16:07:57] tRSS: lol.. sorry. I don't think my frontend expects them to be mounted locally. since, it is able to communicate with my backend, but when a i play an mpg movie, my backend crashes and frontend simply refuses to play the movie and loses connectivity
[16:08:14] Juski: then on the frontend (the remote one(s)) mount the share to the same location. e.g. if your videos live at /myth/video mount them to /myth/video on the remote frontends
[16:08:27] ivor: PERFORM WITH TEST BEFORE UNTIL 0 DISPLAY "teacher smells" END-PERFORM
[16:08:40] Juski: tRSS: mythvideo, mythmusic & mythgallery – none of them stream files like mythtv does with recordings
[16:09:00] Juski: they need to be _local_ – which you can achieve by sharing them over the network
[16:09:08] tRSS: juski: i was under the impression, that the backend would stream to the frontend no matter how many frontends , i had
[16:09:24] Juski: tRSS: it will, but only recordings
[16:09:26] GreyFoxx: tRSS: frontends are local and access "local" content, the tv functions are the only things that stream from the backend
[16:09:38] GreyFoxx: frontend plugins are local I mean
[16:09:47] GreyFoxx: so mythvideo does NOT talk to mythbackend
[16:09:47] tRSS: ooh ok. that clears a lot of things up
[16:09:57] Juski: Neeesat25: looks like you're missing the xvmc-dev libs/headers
[16:10:02] GreyFoxx: But if you nfs.ssamba.cifs mount stuff then you are fine
[16:10:31] tRSS: i think i can handle the nfs part of it. alright, so let me play with the nfs now :)
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[16:12:06] Neeesat25: libxvmc-dev is already the newest version
[16:12:22] ivor: oooh, or verilog: while(1) begin $display("teacher smells"); end
[16:12:25] Neeesat25: That lib it is already installed
[16:13:17] radi0head: So iiuc, Let's say I have one tuner, and I have 2 remote frontends and want to stream the LiveTV to the 2 remote frontends simulatneously, Only one remote frontend would be able to watch LiveTV at the same time? I would need two tuners to acheive that?
[16:13:49] GreyFoxx: radio: If you want to watch seperate channels you would need 2 tuners
[16:14:00] radi0head: GreyFoxx; What about the same channel?
[16:14:13] GreyFoxx: if you want to watch the same thing then the second frontend could go into the watch recordings screen and start watching the inprogress recording
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[16:14:36] radi0head: So that means I can have multiple remote frontends on one tuner if we all watch the same channel right?
[16:14:40] radi0head: Ah I get it.
[16:14:50] GreyFoxx: they wont be "insync" with each other
[16:14:56] radi0head: Yeah I get it
[16:14:57] ivor: damn, how do you do a loop in latex...
[16:14:58] GreyFoxx: but you can watch the same recording
[16:17:33] Juski: Neeesat25: then there's a problem with your xvmc wrapper I guess
[16:18:26] Neeesat25: I have install some packages needed for libxvmc-dev and recompiling
[16:18:33] Neeesat25: Lets see
[16:20:10] Neeesat25: It's gona take a wile, I will catch you later
[16:20:22] Neeesat25: Thanks for all the help
[16:21:26] quicksilver: ivor: more ways than I care to remember
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[16:31:50] opello: ivor: ewcounter type loop, or some other kind?
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[16:32:21] opello: (in 15 minutes he probably could have looked it up, heh)
[16:32:42] qu0zl: tricky bloody ubuntu edgy, it doesn't actually use /etc/inittab anymore
[16:32:51] qu0zl: no wonder changing it made no difference :(
[16:33:58] qu0zl: or rather it cherry-picks some cfg variables out of it but ignores most of it. So the file just sits there waiting to confuse innocent passers by :(
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[16:48:24] Juski: bugger. lyngsat doesn't have an icon for tvtv
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[17:00:30] Paladine: fixed my recording problem
[17:00:56] Paladine: I updated my kernel couple of weeks back, rebuilt ivtv and readded almost everything in mythtv-setup
[17:01:07] Paladine: the only thing that was missing was the frequency on the channel
[17:01:33] Paladine: the channel was there, but when I removed the old capture device and added the new one, I forgot to update the frequency
[17:01:58] Paladine: still all fixed now
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[17:08:27] Tronic: Any ideas for proper deinterlacing?
[17:08:46] Tronic: The kernel deinterlacer seems to be leaving some nasty artifacts.
[17:09:29] Juski: bob
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[17:13:46] Tronic: Juski: No artifacts, but blurry image.
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[17:23:31] moonie: I'm having a problem with sound on my pvr150, what firmware should I be using with it
[17:23:56] moonie: I think I'm using the same firmware as my 250
[17:25:06] janneg: Juski: tvtv is a propietary epg service
[17:30:37] Juski: Tronic: crank your recording resolution up a tad ;)
[17:30:43] Juski: janneg: yeah I know that now thanks
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[17:34:31] Juski: huh? been trying to make my script look prettier & now it's not doing anything
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[17:35:45] gardengnome: Juski: form follows function.
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[17:38:49] Juski: hah
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[17:39:48] Tronic: Juski: I am using DVB, so there is no compression involved.
[17:40:00] Tronic: (or recompression, anyway)
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[17:46:24] Juski: Tronic: ah
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[17:46:51] Juski: if you have a nvidia card, just notch up the flicker filter a tad
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[17:47:02] Juski: ATI's might even work, who knows...
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[17:52:33] Juski: wahey.. fixed
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[18:05:30] seth|laptop: here is a quick query. If the mtd was started running version .19, would it fail to function after upgrading to .20. The box was never rebooted, and I found the mtd daemon running since the 14th, and I upgraded on the 17th
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[18:08:17] xzcvczx: seth|laptop: well it would probably work fine as long as nothing in the interface of it changed
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[18:10:08] seth|laptop: I was just wondering why transcode failed last night. It was the first attempt I made since upgrading to .20, I had to do a "perfect" on my copy of over the hedge. At any rate I killed the process that started on the 14th, and I restarted it today, I am guessing using .20 mtd
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[18:13:40] tRSS: why does mythbackend die, whenever I play, pause and stop a movie from the frontend?
[18:13:46] xzcvczx: hmmm this is going to take a while ripping a season of stargate off 5 dvds each with 4 or 5 episodes
[18:14:06] xzcvczx: tRSS: because of the solar flares
[18:14:40] xzcvczx: tRSS: thats really not helping.... you need to run backend undeamonised and see why its crashing maybe?
[18:14:53] xzcvczx: s/helping/useful
[18:15:14] tRSS: you are right. does mythtv dump a log in /var/log?
[18:15:40] xzcvczx: not that i know of
[18:15:41] seth|laptop: Krazylegz, where are you from?
[18:15:53] Krazylegz: PA.
[18:15:58] seth|laptop: where abouts
[18:16:07] Krazylegz: South of Lancaster. You?
[18:16:13] seth|laptop: Elizabethtown
[18:16:14] GreyFoxx: tRSS: By default it's to the console, unless you tell it at the commandline (which most init scripts do) to log to a file
[18:16:19] Krazylegz: Ah, not too far then.
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[18:17:04] seth|laptop: [hsd1.pa.comcast.net] – used to be my comcast setting as well
[18:17:13] seth|laptop: get your comcast from hershey
[18:18:09] seth|laptop: good to know another local person uses mythtv
[18:18:09] Krazylegz: I guess so. Not sure where it comes from really. :-)
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[18:18:54] seth|laptop: up until now, all were from harrisburg, mechanicsburg, and york :-)
[18:19:09] seth|laptop: and E-Town, hehe
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[18:20:38] xzcvczx: is there a way to make it do mtd can do more than one job in parallel?
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[18:21:14] seth|laptop: build a slave?
[18:21:19] seth|laptop: or 2
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[18:21:35] Angryelf_: can mythbackend be set up in an X-less enviornment so that frontends can connect, specifically with mythtv-setup to config things?
[18:21:53] Angryelf_: or does mythtv-setup have to be run the first time on the same host?
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[18:23:00] moonie: AngryElf: I've run it through x forwarding in an ssh session running init 3 on the backend system
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[18:25:00] Angryelf_: i dont even have X on the system i want to set it up on
[18:25:16] GreyFoxx: I believe myth will require some of the X libraries
[18:25:50] xzcvczx: seth|laptop: yeah will have to do that some day
[18:26:17] GreyFoxx: Angryelf_: You don't seen a running X server, but I'm pretty darn sure you will need some of the X libraries available.
[18:26:40] GreyFoxx: and yeah if you want to setup a capture card on a backend you have to run mythtv-setup FROM that backend
[18:26:56] seth|laptop: xzcvczx: salves are the only way to go. Pause your show, go for a smoke, and let real-time commflagging skip the cmmercials for you.
[18:27:25] xzcvczx: well i am actually more interested in < 12 hr dvd encodings at the moment
[18:27:54] Angryelf_: k, thanx GreyFoxx
[18:28:13] seth|laptop: before I upgraded to .20, i would run mtd -d on noth slaves, and they would grab a transcode job, as they pooped into the queue, so in essence, transcoding 3 things at once, in different rooms of the house, all located on the centeral storage
[18:28:30] gardengnome: ew
[18:28:30] xzcvczx: seth|laptop: so far i have 7 jobs waiting for perm to transcode
[18:28:33] seth|laptop: sorry both slaves
[18:29:14] seth|laptop: ack 7 jobs
[18:29:15] xzcvczx: yeah i might get a 2.4cpu/mobo/ram cheap in summer and just use that for the encoder
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[18:30:22] xzcvczx: haha or when i go home during the summer just reboot the 2 laptops in this house into knoppmyth and use them
[18:30:32] xzcvczx: s/this/the
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[18:31:25] seth|laptop: occasionally I have a 3rd slave, when i run knoppmyth on my laptop. It does make a difference.
[18:31:46] seth|laptop: but never use an xbox as a slave, choked it out.
[18:32:25] xzcvczx: lol im just using xbox as frontend/backend/only box
[18:32:38] gardengnome: xzcvczx: using an USB tuner?
[18:32:39] xzcvczx: well its not an xbox yet but it will be
[18:33:05] xzcvczx: gardengnome: nah mini-itx mobo which im gonna put in an xbox case
[18:33:12] seth|laptop: my xbox is in the master bedroom, and only does frontend work. And it doesn't like HD content at all
[18:33:42] gardengnome: xzcvczx: nifty!
[18:33:50] seth|laptop: but it does video playback, so I am not sure what is going on there
[18:34:08] seth|laptop: mybe the stream size
[18:34:15] seth|laptop: maybe even
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[18:34:31] xzcvczx: gardengnome: well much cheaper than an htpc case here
[18:37:15] seth|laptop: which mini itx mobo do you have, (I know you have probably said this already at one time)
[18:38:58] xzcvczx: sp13000
[18:42:10] Paladine: http://brainbox.winbot.co.uk/funny/boobees.jpg
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[18:45:57] seth|laptop: xzcvczx: if those audio jacks were vertical, I would have a case for you :-(
[18:46:31] seth|laptop: I got it for $5 at a local flea ,market, and I don't want to spend $190 to put a mobo in it.
[18:47:04] xzcvczx: it would still cost me less for an xbox case i mean shipping would not be chea[
[18:47:06] xzcvczx: cheap
[18:47:41] xzcvczx: the xbox case only cost me $10USD
[18:47:56] seth|laptop: ah, yeah, shipping would most likely be more
[18:48:14] xzcvczx: esspecially from usa to here
[18:48:31] seth|laptop: its a shame, I don't know what do with the thing, hehe
[18:48:36] Krazylegz: seth|laptop: Are you in the LUG?
[18:48:44] seth|laptop: CPLUG?
[18:48:52] seth|laptop: yes
[18:48:58] Krazylegz: Lanc-LUG.
[18:49:12] seth|laptop: no, CPLUG http://www.cplug.net
[18:49:13] Krazylegz: Do you ever go to CPLUG meetings?
[18:49:23] seth|laptop: 2nd tuesday of every month
[18:49:28] Krazylegz: Do you know Lon?
[18:49:40] seth|laptop: an occasionally we get together for a frag fest, here in mechanicsburg
[18:49:54] seth|laptop: Yes, malaclypse is his handle
[18:49:59] Krazylegz: Yeah.
[18:50:15] Krazylegz: He's in #lanc-lug too, with the rest of the York/Lancasterians in Lanc-LUG.
[18:50:22] seth|laptop: hmm
[18:50:39] seth|laptop: I wonder if that would be closer for me to go to than mechanicsburg
[18:51:21] Krazylegz: Not sure.
[18:51:42] kormoc: etown? likely
[18:52:00] seth|laptop: thats what I was thinking, how many member do you have?
[18:52:00] xzcvczx: if you select multiple titles on a dvd to rip will it rip it into seperate files or all into one file?
[18:52:10] kormoc: it's only a 30 min drive or so, vs a 40 min mechanicsburg drive
[18:52:26] kormoc: seth|laptop, should join #lanc-lug and talk with the lug! :)
[18:52:55] Juski: dum de dum dumm...
[18:53:00] Krazylegz: Eh, it's not a real LUG.
[18:53:05] kormoc: seth|laptop, we're less of a lug, and more of just a group of friends, there's weekly dinner meetups and less lug activities
[18:53:11] seth|laptop: well I get on the turnpike, takes me about 35 minutes, where we meet is right across the filed from where I work. I am actually half way between middletown and e-town on rt 230
[18:53:15] Krazylegz: We? You live in Seattle.
[18:53:35] kormoc: Krazylegz, hey now, I still go when I'm in town!
[18:53:47] Krazylegz: Yeah, that one time.
[18:53:58] kormoc: that was the last time I was in town sense I moved out here
[18:54:09] Krazylegz: seth|laptop: Sometimes we meet up at Prudhomme's in Columbia. That's close for you.
[18:54:19] seth|laptop: yes it is
[18:54:37] Krazylegz: There's some place in Mt. Joy that we were going to go to, I think.
[18:54:39] Krazylegz: Beanie's?
[18:54:52] seth|laptop: sounds familiar
[18:55:10] kormoc: Beanies is great
[18:55:17] kormoc: cheap wings that are oh so good
[18:55:26] seth|laptop: mmm cheap wings
[18:55:39] kormoc: the burbon bbq are my fav, they toss a full shot on them
[18:55:45] seth|laptop: do they sell extra dark beer, guiness class?
[18:55:58] kormoc: they have guiness extra stout
[18:56:08] seth|laptop: mmmm ( sound of Homer drooling)
[18:56:17] kormoc: and iirc, they have a few dark porters
[18:56:37] kormoc: beanies tend to be sub $3 a dozen for wings, and they have like 55 types
[18:56:48] seth|laptop: when is this event?
[18:56:54] kormoc: and on special days, it's sub $2 for a dozen
[18:58:59] ** ciphernemo wonders if he joined the right channel ;) **
[18:59:15] seth|laptop: hehe
[18:59:28] seth|laptop: appologies, we have moved the cinversation
[18:59:33] seth|laptop: conversation even
[19:00:45] stuarta: the topic *drifts* around here :)
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[19:02:22] Juski: stuarta: almost done here fella :)
[19:02:44] stuarta: last of the expo stuff?
[19:03:25] Juski: oo no not quite.. not much left of that
[19:03:30] Juski: my icon grabby thingy i meant
[19:04:06] Juski: it's rough as fuck around the edges but it works. just doing the db update code now
[19:04:15] stuarta: oh cool. feel free to make a ticket and assign it to me...
[19:04:51] Juski: crap. the test db I made doesn't wanna play ball
[19:05:05] Juski: just gave it all the permissions.. same as mythconverg & I can't get into it
[19:05:23] Juski: oh. might need a flush priv
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[19:05:50] stuarta: most likely.
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[19:07:16] scopeuk: can any one think why a steries of commands whould work on comandlien but not in a script (all commadns are none itnereactive)
[19:07:52] gardengnome: scopeuk: check your script for typos..
[19:08:01] stuarta: you have no path in a script (if run from cron)
[19:08:02] kormoc: scopeuk, perhaps... depends on the commands and all that jazz
[19:08:06] gardengnome: or run it with sh -x
[19:08:27] scopeuk: kormoc the comand is expr if that helps
[19:09:00] kormoc: scopeuk, well, I meant the commands that it's running... really there's so many reasons why it wouldn't work, it's hard to nail down without say, seeing the script
[19:09:07] scopeuk: ok
[19:09:14] scopeuk: well the script is fairly simple as it is
[19:09:53] scopeuk: http://pastebin.ca/210438
[19:10:05] scopeuk: the url is goign to be puleld from comandlien when tis done
[19:10:30] scopeuk: gardengnome the typos thing i know is fine beocuse if i copy and paste the stuff from the script to a terminal it works flawlessly
[19:10:49] scopeuk: stuarta its notbeing run from cron yet but thatnks thats somethign id forgotten
[19:11:02] stuarta: missing #!/bin/sh
[19:11:13] Juski: oh hell. I need more array stuff methinks
[19:11:25] scopeuk: its there jsut the paste bin removed it when i set it to bash ithink
[19:11:31] scopeuk: think i might have missed the ! though thanks
[19:11:31] Juski: ';
[19:11:40] Juski: DBD::mysql::st fetchrow failed: fetch() without execute() at ./new.pl line 140.
[19:11:41] scopeuk: Juski i knwo its crap but it makes sense to my limited mind
[19:11:47] ciphernemo: that makes a difference
[19:12:54] Juski: yeah I can't update the db as I'm in a while loop doing another query. oops
[19:13:08] Juski: bum!
[19:13:32] stuarta: not unless you setup a 2nd db handle
[19:13:40] Juski: oh yeah
[19:15:13] Juski: nah it'd be much, much tidier to make some arrays
[19:16:00] Juski: get the list of channel names, put those into an array alongside the file location of the image, and then update the db later
[19:17:18] stuarta: the icons get downloaded don't they?
[19:17:22] Juski: this is it now... you'll see what I mean about it being crap around the edges.. http://pastebin.ca/210445
[19:18:43] Juski: think I know what perl stands for now.. Potter, Errors, rewrite, loop
[19:19:38] Juski: oh god.. look what else I've done. I open the file for every name in the channel table.. lol
[19:20:53] scopeuk: hmm im gettign somehwere i think the variabledoesent look to be being set
[19:21:02] Juski: it'll be reet.. eventually
[19:21:36] Juski: now WTF is my Perl book?
[19:21:48] jduggan: on my shelf ;o
[19:22:19] Juski: sod it. I have the internet
[19:22:27] ** scopeuk readies the flame thrower for bash **
[19:22:59] scopeuk: bingo bloody return charicter
[19:23:06] scopeuk: character*
[19:23:16] Juski: I think if I resort to doing stuff like this regularly I might one day find out what I'm doing
[19:24:11] scopeuk: Juski no chance of that let me tell you ;-)
[19:24:31] Juski: ahh yes but I'm not you ;-)
[19:25:18] scopeuk: well thats fairly obvious
[19:25:29] scopeuk: eitehr that or im scitsophrenic
[19:26:30] scopeuk: wel lthat kileld the conversation
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[19:27:35] scopeuk: well i know know what the problem is
[19:27:38] scopeuk: jsut got to solve it
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[20:04:32] Erroneous_1: hmmmm...having a problem with MythTV not seeing that it has programs to record. I schedule them to record, the SQL table 'record' has the changes, but it neither automatically records them, nore has anything in upcoming recordings
[20:04:54] ivor: Erroneous_1: what does the backend log say?
[20:05:00] Erroneous_1: lemme see
[20:05:05] ivor: 1. when you schedule, and 2. when the recording is due.
[20:05:08] ivor: might give you a clie
[20:05:09] ivor: clue
[20:06:11] ivor: scopeuk: what on earth are you writing
[20:06:22] Erroneous_1: /var/log/mythbackend has a bunch of "writeStringList: Error, called with unconnected socket."
[20:08:42] Erroneous_1: lemme increase SQL logging to debug level
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[20:10:00] Erroneous_1: already at All Messages. If I am watching TV and hit "r", it will record the program. Otherwise, it won't record anything
[20:11:27] Erroneous_1: though it doesn't list the program currently recording in the Upcoming Recordings list
[20:12:49] Erroneous_1: and it acts like the recording is done recording in the Watch Recordings section
[20:15:12] Erroneous_1: rather annoying seeing how is is a fresh install of mythtv, Archlinux, etc. The only thing I did was restore the 4 tables recommended to restore according to the document on http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-23.html
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[20:18:43] Erroneous_1: and when I schedule a new program or look at upcoming recordings, nothing changes in either the SQL log or the log file
[20:20:32] kormoc: Erroneous_1, what version of myth?
[20:20:36] Erroneous_1: 0.20
[20:21:06] Erroneous_1: from 09-19–2006
[20:21:25] kormoc: hrm... all live tv is recorded anyway, so pressing r shouldn't make a difference
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[20:22:15] Erroneous_1: well it changes the group, prevents channel changing, and keeps recording until the program ends
[20:22:45] kormoc: yeah, but it should still show up as a recorded program without hitting r
[20:22:53] kormoc: which you seemed to indicate that it did not?
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[20:23:28] Erroneous_1: well it would if I had Watch Recordings view all groups. It doesn't show Live TV group recordings
[20:23:39] ivor: Erroneous_1: what does "mythbackend --printsched" show
[20:24:01] kormoc: ahh, gotcha, I figured you ment it just didn't show up at all, which would have been very strange
[20:24:49] Juski: !seen Kelerion
[20:24:49] MythLogBot: Kelerion was last seen 3 days 23 hours 13 minutes 42 seconds ago
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[20:25:31] Erroneous_1: it shows nothing between --- print list start --- and end except "Title – Subtitle Chan ChID Day Start End C I T N Pri"
[20:26:29] Erroneous_1: connects the the database, schema v. 1160, protocol v. 30
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[20:29:53] Erroneous_1: I am using mysql 5.
[20:30:46] Erroneous_1: *5.0.26, would that mess it up maybe? Maybe syntax that changed a bit for the query to look up recording schedules?
[20:30:54] stuarta: !seen Puh
[20:30:54] MythLogBot: Puh is here and has been idle for 1 day 8 hours 52 minutes 34 seconds
[20:31:14] stuarta: Puh: you alive?
[20:31:27] kormoc: Erroneous_1, doubtful, I'm using a late 5.0 just fine
[20:31:34] Erroneous_1: mmkay
[20:32:21] ** stuarta suspects not **
[20:32:44] Puh: ?
[20:33:30] stuarta: Puh: regarding your eit stuff (ticket #2528), can I get a copy of your dtv_multiplex & channel tables?
[20:33:39] Puh: certainly
[20:33:50] Puh: just a second
[20:34:20] stuarta: pastebin is fine.
[20:34:35] nandy_: kormoc: okay so i got the cpu usage down from 90% to 30–60% flux (mplayer plays at 8% is the extra 20% or so just myth overhead?) but my remote sitll doesnt work when i go into TV mode any ideas?
[20:35:17] Erroneous_1: well, g2g
[20:40:24] Juski: fsking arrays
[20:40:45] Juski: screw it.. gonna have 2 arrays for this. one for the ch. name & one for the icon filename
[20:40:51] Juski: they'll be in step
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[20:46:06] Puh: stuarta, http://pastebin.ca/210547 and http://pastebin.ca/210548
[20:46:39] Puh: stuarta, there were more channels but i removed them as they were encrypted and/or somehow unwanted
[20:46:55] stuarta: thanks
[20:47:31] Puh: no problem
[20:48:21] stuarta: i'm just thinking up an alternate theory that might work...
[20:50:56] Puh: does my oneliner have some unwanted side effects? :)
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[20:51:28] Puh: someone mentioned that 'raw mpeg' sources might use networkid 0 and cause trouble
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[20:52:05] kal: hi there
[20:52:40] stuarta: Puh: yeah, we are just discussing another problem that has the same root cause (netid = 0)
[20:53:06] Puh: ok
[20:53:53] kal: I've a recording schedule every night but I don't find any option do cancel this schedule. Maybe i have to do it in MySQL ?
[20:55:04] kormoc: kal, in the frontend, under recording schedules, that specific schedule, the first option, if you cycle though the choices, one of them is do not record, select that and save changes, and it's gone
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[20:56:48] kal: kormoc: it's not present. Look here : http://kalhfr.free.fr/linux/divers/Screenshots/mythtv.png
[20:56:53] Puh: if you need me i'll be on the sofa :) i've been feverish for a couple of days
[20:57:06] Puh: send a msg or be patient
[20:57:59] kormoc: kal, uhh...
[20:58:09] kal: haha
[20:58:12] kal: seems like a bug ?
[20:59:02] kormoc: kal, I poked xris on it, he's taking a look
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[20:59:19] kal: ok
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[20:59:20] xris: kal: where'd you get your mythweb?
[20:59:29] kal: emerging in gentoo
[20:59:43] kal: xris: you want the version number ?
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[21:00:11] kormoc: .20-fixes rev 11329
[21:00:15] kal: 0.20_p11329
[21:00:19] kal: yep
[21:00:22] kal: it's that one
[21:00:29] kormoc: and no patches
[21:00:39] ** kormoc peers at cardoe, who alas isn't in the channel **
[21:00:42] kal: is it a question ?
[21:00:53] xris: just wondering where the "schedule via" stuff came from
[21:00:56] kormoc: nah, making not for xris' benifit
[21:01:03] kormoc: *making note
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[21:01:17] kal: you want I look in the DB ?
[21:01:31] gardengnome: kormoc: cardoe is in the dev channel
[21:01:35] xris: no, I see what's going in
[21:01:38] xris: s/in/on/
[21:01:44] kal: cool
[21:01:50] xris: kal: so what's wrong with this?
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[21:02:05] kormoc: gardengnome, yeah, but that means I would need to do more work to get his attention :P
[21:02:07] nandy_: kormoc: heya! did you see what i said or did you miss it?
[21:02:21] kal: xris: Ok, i have a recording schedule every night. I want to cancel all, for ever. But I don't find the option :/
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[21:04:21] xris: kal: you have a recording search set up. go to "recording schedules" and click on it there.
[21:04:24] kormoc: nandy_, likely missed it
[21:04:49] nandy_: kormoc: okay so i got the cpu usage down from 90% to 30–60% flux (mplayer plays at 8% is the extra 20% or so just myth overhead?) but my remote sitll doesnt work when i go into TV mode any ideas?
[21:04:53] nandy_: no worries :)
[21:05:11] kal: Oh my go. I've never seen this screen before. Thank you very much. You rocks guys :)
[21:05:20] xris: there's *supposed* to be a link to that from the program detail page, but for some reason it got removed
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[21:05:25] kormoc: nandy_, hrm, donno bout the extra overhead
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[21:05:51] nandy_: kormoc: i assumed the high load was starving out the lirc process from getting commands but its pretty reasonable now
[21:06:01] nandy_: and the remote just wont do jack
[21:06:12] kal: It's OK now
[21:06:16] xris: hahah.. there IS a link, but the css makes it hard to find.
[21:06:25] xris: you can click on the name of the search in the "schedule via..." section.
[21:06:26] kal: Thank you again.
[21:06:32] nandy_: when i have mythfronend running, it works perfectly i can move around the menus etc, soon as i hit Watch TV it goes non-responsive
[21:06:32] kal: xris: indeed :)
[21:06:37] kormoc: nandy_, hrm, with regards to lirc, I don't really know much beyond watching the frontend output for hints
[21:06:41] xris: guess I need to clean that up at some point
[21:06:50] nandy_: if i run irw i can see the commands fine until i have TV
[21:06:55] kal: I always click on Manual or Custom
[21:07:10] kal: never thought to click directly on Recording Schedules
[21:07:18] nandy_: something about the TV display is making the remote not respond
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[21:08:02] kal: Time to sleep here. Good night everybody and thanks again. Bye
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[21:20:34] Juski: bedtime.. g'night all
[21:20:39] opello: gn
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[21:35:48] stuarta: Puh: when you get a chance, can you try the patch on ticket 2528 (without your patch)
[21:41:40] Juski: stuarta: one last thing afore I go... http://www.juski.co.uk/icon_uk.tar.bz2 :)
[21:42:33] stuarta: i'll have a look :)
[21:42:36] Juski: the channel name matching is absolute but I wanted to minimise the amount of Perl modules needed
[21:43:16] Juski: right. _now_ I'm off to bed, with Perl blindness..
[21:43:23] stuarta: link broken
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[22:25:20] jdhutchin1: hello
[22:25:36] jdhutchin1: I recently started running mythtv on my system which has two screens
[22:25:47] Paladine: well done
[22:25:50] jdhutchin1: it runs fine except when I go to play a video with the internal video player, the video shows up on the wrong screen
[22:26:04] jdhutchin1: does anyone have any suggestions?
[22:26:24] Paladine: Irun 2 screens and have no issues with theinternal video player
[22:26:33] Paladine: but then I don't run myth fullscreen
[22:26:45] jdhutchin1: hmm ok
[22:27:12] jdhutchin1: I have myth running full-screen on the second screen and the video shows up on the first
[22:27:20] jdhutchin1: tv works fine though
[22:27:38] Paladine: you sure you are using the internal player?
[22:27:52] Paladine: cos it makes no sense that the internal player wouldrun in a seperate screen to mythfrontend
[22:27:58] jdhutchin1: yeah
[22:28:47] jdhutchin1: oh nevermind
[22:29:00] jdhutchin1: remembered that I'm watching rips of dvds
[22:29:24] jdhutchin1: oops, sorry
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[22:41:40] slide: If I have 2 shows scheduled for the same time, how can I make mythtv automatically record the lower priority one at a later time?
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[22:50:02] Ediehow: hi
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[22:50:09] Ediehow: i have usb-uirt working in blaster
[22:50:12] Ediehow: but i want to use my pctv remote with it
[22:50:50] Ediehow: what do i need to do? i got my lircd.conf remote portion from when i used to use the IR Receiver that came with remote
[22:51:37] czth_: what's the use of an IR blaster anyway? I have the MCE remote and I read the IR blaster doesn't work. do I care?
[22:52:11] Zider: irblaster is an ir transmitter, not a receiver.. iirc..
[22:52:40] Ediehow: czth_: "do i care?"
[22:52:48] Ediehow: i don't know if you care, but i do, because i need it to control my satellite
[22:53:12] czth_: well, i mean do I as a user care in general. i wasn't intending to belittle your issue :P.
[22:53:16] Zider: I need a receiver :P
[22:53:52] czth_: the blaster just controls other devices by sending them remote signals, correct? so it could be convenient but i can live without it and just use their existing remotes.
[22:53:55] Zider: czth_: if you have a satellite box or something that needs to be controlled with a remote, and you wantthe mythbox to do that, then you need an ir blaster ;)
[22:54:00] Ediehow: it talks to my satellite box
[22:54:04] czth_: i don't, yay.
[22:54:05] Ediehow: but my device is a receiver and transmitter
[22:54:21] Paladine: czth, if you are in the UK and want to use scheduling with satelite tv an ir blaster is essential
[22:54:31] czth_: the MCE remote supposedly is both too, but the wiki says the blaster doesn't work. (maybe it will at some point, though.)
[22:54:36] Paladine: so yes as a general user, you do care
[22:54:53] Ediehow: Paladine: it's not just UK
[22:54:54] czth_: i don't care for my own use, though. i care deeply for others, naturally.
[22:54:58] Ediehow: it's dishnetwork here
[22:55:09] Paladine: czth, but you said as a general mythtv user
[22:55:19] Paladine: edie, yeah sounds like a similar setup to here
[22:55:38] Paladine: the signal is encrypted and has to be decrypted through the satellite set top box
[22:55:47] Paladine: so you can't just plug it into the card
[22:56:00] czth_: true. i was generally curious. i don't have a mythtv box yet, i ordered it and it should be ready end of week. i've been reading the literature to learn what i can but i wasn't sure about "IR blaster".
[22:56:10] GreyFoxx: unless your vprovider will rent/sell you a working cam
[22:56:18] czth_: i plan to set it up with Gentoo since that's what i have other boxes running
[22:57:30] Paladine: GreyFoxx, which simply doesn't happen hehehe
[22:57:34] Paladine: at least not in the UK
[22:57:35] Paladine: ever
[22:57:46] GreyFoxx: maybe not, but it does happen :)
[22:57:53] GreyFoxx: I don't know of any in NA that do it either
[22:57:57] Paladine: the chances of sky renting someone a cam are as remote as george bush turning muslim
[22:58:02] GreyFoxx: at least no in the last 8 years
[22:59:17] Paladine: its bloody stupid really
[22:59:24] Paladine: you have to buy the decryption card anyway
[22:59:34] Paladine: so why not permit hardware for PCs that can read the cards
[22:59:47] Paladine: save all this STB nonsense
[22:59:58] GreyFoxx: "control" :)
[22:59:59] BULLE: Paladine: because they fear that that will allow the encryption to be broken
[23:00:14] Paladine: BULLE the encryption gets broken already with "illegal" cams
[23:00:14] BULLE: Paladine: what encryption do they use ?
[23:00:14] GreyFoxx: BULLE: the thing is,it pretty much all is
[23:00:32] GreyFoxx: they are just making it harder on the "common" user to do
[23:00:41] BULLE: Paladine: so get a subscription for sky, and a "illegal" cam
[23:00:43] GreyFoxx: but in the end it's about controlling the content/distrubution
[23:00:46] Paladine: I actually sent a letter to my MP last year about this crap
[23:01:07] Paladine: it is so the provider can sell tivo'esque services of their own
[23:01:13] Paladine: they don't want people using pvr's
[23:01:21] Paladine: because it cuts into their product
[23:01:25] BULLE: here my cable provider doesnt tell anything, but sent a nice manual with the stb, that stated what encryption etc was used, what symbolrates and so on
[23:01:39] Paladine: they want you to use their tivo/sky+ etc etc etc where you have to buy the hardware from them
[23:01:47] Ediehow: err what in the world is going on
[23:01:50] BULLE: ah, ye, so they can make profit!
[23:01:51] Ediehow: i just selected hallmark movie channel
[23:01:55] Ediehow: and it gave me a soap opera
[23:02:08] Ediehow: the young and the restless
[23:02:12] Ediehow: apparently my listins are screwed?
[23:02:43] Paladine: apparently so :)
[23:02:56] Paladine: but at least you know what the problem is :)
[23:03:03] Ediehow: how do i fix it?
[23:03:20] Paladine: I dunno I don't use scheduling data yet
[23:03:20] Ediehow: i really hate how you have to pick and choose the channels from the satellite provider on zap2it
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[23:06:59] gbee: Juski: hear you've finished that icon grab script?
[23:07:11] Kelerion: evening all :)
[23:07:51] Kelerion: Juski, been getting the emails.. just thought I'd pop on and let you know everything is ready here :)
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[23:08:13] ts0: where do I start with the following error:
[23:08:22] ts0: 2006-10–19 18:59:44.824 Using protocol version 31
[23:08:22] ts0: 2006-10–19 18:59:44.909 TV: Attempting to change from None to WatchingLiveTV
[23:08:25] ts0: 2006-10–19 18:59:44.909 RemoteEncoder::openControlSocket(): Connection timed out.
[23:08:28] ts0: 2006-10–19 18:59:44.911 GetEntryAt(-1) failed.
[23:08:31] ts0: 2006-10–19 18:59:44.931 EntryToProgram(0@Wed Dec 31 19:00:00 1969) failed to get pginfo
[23:08:34] ts0: 2006-10–19 18:59:44.932 TV Error: LiveTV not successfully started
[23:08:38] Kelerion: ts0, should be using pastebin
[23:08:55] ts0: sorry, no web access atm
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[23:09:12] ts0: else I would have
[23:09:17] ** Kelerion nods **
[23:09:28] Kelerion: it a seperate backend?
[23:09:38] ts0: yes, these messages are from the frontend (osx)
[23:09:57] Kelerion: ahhh...no idea then... never used myth on an osx
[23:09:58] ts0: the backend seems to be ok, can grab video off the encoder fine, with audio etc
[23:10:21] ts0: what I really want to know is what RemoteEncoder::openControlSocket() is expecting
[23:14:52] Anduin: ts0: That 0 before the @ is the chanid it is using (usually a bad startchan, or channel table)
[23:15:02] ts0: ok, but i'm using a stb
[23:15:16] ts0: pvr150 via svideo to the directv D10
[23:15:43] Ediehow: i do that
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[23:15:52] Ediehow: but with dish
[23:15:52] Anduin: ts0: and?
[23:16:22] Anduin: ts0: It could be that you configured other inputs and have another input as the default
[23:17:21] ts0: hmm
[23:17:34] ts0: is there any way to force the frontend to use a specific input?
[23:18:19] Anduin: ts0: If things are setup right it won't make a difference
[23:18:52] ts0: I only have 1 video source defined
[23:18:55] ts0: ...wait
[23:19:09] ts0: yeah, I had it right
[23:19:25] ts0: Anduin: setup right how do you mean, on the frontend? backend? what?
[23:19:52] Anduin: ts0: capture cards are the backend, make sure you have the start chan right and the default input
[23:20:03] ts0: in which db table?
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[23:20:40] Anduin: ts0: capturecard and cardinput (less any misrememberings)
[23:21:37] ts0: i'm pretty sure it's right; does the hostname field in capturecard suggest I need to have a custom row with the hostname of my backend in it?
[23:21:56] ts0: cardinput looks fine
[23:22:04] ts0: there's only 1 row in both of these tables
[23:22:15] Anduin: ts0: There should be only one row, and yes with the backend name on it (really important for slave configs)
[23:22:34] Anduin: ts0: That is to be expected with one card and one input
[23:22:35] ts0: now there's no startchan field in cardinput, but there shouldn't be for svideo, right?
[23:22:47] ts0: rather, there's no value in that column
[23:22:59] Anduin: ts0: There should, you are using an ir blaster correct?
[23:23:26] ts0: yes, and it works correctly, though I haven't deployed my channel changer script or anything yet
[23:23:38] ts0: not really that important to me, if I can get live video working I can work on the rest of that stuff later
[23:23:46] Anduin: ts0: Put a valid start channel in, restart the backend and try again
[23:24:05] ts0: ok, which would require me to get my channel changer script working first, or can I just throw a dummy value there
[23:24:27] Anduin: ts0: something is better than nothing
[23:25:39] ts0: no love, even after a backend restart. just a sec
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[23:26:57] ts0: yeah, this is odd, still suggesting failed to get pginfo
[23:27:11] ts0: doesn't matter if startchan is 0 or 202 (CNN)
[23:27:12] Anduin: ts0: You do have channels?
[23:27:22] Anduin: (in the DB sense)
[23:27:23] ts0: absolutely
[23:27:59] Anduin: 202 would be a bad one to test with, unless you at least tell it there is an external changer
[23:28:08] ts0: nah, I think I know what's going on
[23:28:16] ts0: startchan isn't referenced to the channel name, it's referenced to the chanid
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[23:29:00] Ediehow: is there a way to get just the numbers for the dishnetwork 120 package?
[23:29:04] Ediehow: so i can fix my lineup on zap2it?
[23:29:10] Anduin: ts0: in channel (table) terms, it is channum
[23:29:35] ts0: ok, regardless of what it is, none of the values work
[23:29:46] ts0: i'm trying to figure out where the frontend comes up with this channel number
[23:29:59] ts0: and why it's starting at 0 unix seconds
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[23:32:34] Anduin: ts0: that is the default when there is no chain
[23:34:38] Anduin: ts0: If you go to Manage Recordings | Schedule Recordings | Program Guide you see a listing right?
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[23:38:57] zoibee: how can i get mytharchive to include .srt files when encoding? i want subtile in my videos
[23:40:09] Ediehow: hmm
[23:40:12] Ediehow: how do i add local channels?
[23:40:17] Ediehow: on labs.zap2it.com?
[23:40:20] Ediehow: like 39
[23:40:23] Ediehow: cuz it starts at 100
[23:41:36] Anduin: Ediehow: There isn't a lineup build that actually matches?
[23:42:18] Ediehow: you mean on labs.zap2it.com?
[23:42:23] Ediehow: i have to pick my 100
[23:42:24] Ediehow: 120
[23:42:29] Ediehow: and then i have to pick my local
[23:42:38] Ediehow: it just lists like 1000 when i select dishnetwork
[23:43:31] Ediehow: i choose zip code
[23:43:55] Ediehow: satellite
[23:44:17] Ediehow: oh wait
[23:44:18] Ediehow: i got it
[23:44:22] Ediehow: i had to choose dish network for my area
[23:44:36] Ediehow: instead of USA
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[23:48:02] Ediehow: hey Anduin you there?
[23:48:06] Ediehow: it doesn't list 136?
[23:48:39] Ediehow: f/x alternate?
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[23:56:11] ts0: Anduin: yes, it does show a listing

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