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netw1z:

anyone know how I can get

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netw1z:

games in mame to run full screen?

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netw1z:

snes?

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kevin__:

.

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Aid`:

this is offtopic but can i access linux files from windows?

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opello:

you can mount ext partitions with a linux driver or browse them with explore2fs

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tjcarter:

the latter is usually safer AFAIK

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scopeuk:

there is a windows driver for ext2/3

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scopeuk:

but it will make linux complain and check its router partition at next boot

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Aid`:

ok thanks

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opello:

hm, i've never had that check happen

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opello:

i didn't use it much though

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kevin__:

i'm working on a ir remote receiver and took the 9 pin serial connector from an old mouse. I'm trying to test the pin out with a multimeter.... i just touch one end to a wire, and another to the pin socket and test resistance to figure whats live?

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metalac:

kevin__: why don't you pass some voltage to those wires and see what's live

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LabMonkey:

hmm

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kevin__:

i figured it out, nevermin

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Zider:

get a ruler and measure

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aboutblank:

can someone who has nuvexport please start it with --debug and do an mpeg2 lossless conversion and pastebin the output? thanks a MILLION

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word:

is anyone here familiar with using a satellite box serially?

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gurft:

Is it just me, or is commercial flagging less than accurate? I just want to set my expectations before I start digging to see if I have a problem or not.

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aboutblank:

sorry, i don't know.

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word:

occasionally it will fail to flag a break because of the signal of the tv which will cause a big block of the show to be flagged as a commercial...there should be a limit for that kind of thing..it shouldn't think a 30 minute commercial is normal lol.

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aboutblank:

gurft: try disabling "Strict commercial detection"

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gurft:

I'll give it a whir. Also, lately whenever I go into search functions to find new shows to schedule, it can take 10–15 minutes to give me the screen where I see the names of shows.... is that normal? I'm starting to wonder if I'm having DB performance issues.

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kevin__:

i use the manual edit functionality of myth to take out commercials. I find it easier than using the auto-flag function

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RyeBrye:

My LIRC worked when I set it up a few days ago, but now doesn't seem to work... lircd is running and irw shows the keypresses – I didn't change anything in my ~/lircrc file... what should I do to troubleshoot it?

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word:

gurft: is that an exaggeration or real?

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gurft:

RyeBrye, double check the perms on the lircrc file, I ran into an issue where the frontend couldnt' read the file, so my remote didnt' work.

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kevin__:

heh not sure, haven't gotten that far. still trying to build my receiver

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RyeBrye:

gurft – good point. I'll chmod 777 it

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gurft:

word: no it's real. Kinda disturbing actually. Box is a AMD Sempron 3100, so I dont' think it' sCPU

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gurft:

I think I'll pull sar data while trying to do a search and see if it's killing the box

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gurft:

nothing funny in the mysql or myth logs thouhg...

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word:

maybe there's a corrupt table and it's having trouble accessing it

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word:

do you have phpmyadmin?

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gurft:

no I don't, is here a way to check from the mysql command line?

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Anduin:

gurft: mysqlcheck

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RyeBrye:

gurft – thanks for the tip. It didn't work at first when I did my ~/lircrc file – but when I renamed my ~/.mythtv/lircrc.bk to ~/.mythtv/lircrc and chowned it and chmodded it, it worked

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RyeBrye:

I thought that ~/lircrc was the fallback if ~/.mythtv/lircrc didn't exist, is this not the case?

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Anduin:

RyeBrye: It is not

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RyeBrye:

Oh

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RyeBrye:

That explains it then :)

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jblack_:

Heh. My kid, on her way to bed, said "Myth is awesome! THanks dad! <big hug>"

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** RyeBrye is going to make the switch to his Myth box as his main "production" DVR system this week **

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aboutblank:

transcoding on my machine *always* fails with "couldn't find profile for : MPEG-2"... ugh.. any ideas?

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jblack_:

I shouda told her that you guys are the ones that did the work, but 12 year olds don't hug their fathers enough.

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aboutblank:

aww jblack_

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jblack_:

I've never seen a piece of software make her so happy

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RyeBrye:

jblack_ I just hope my wife appreciates the MythTV once we switch to it from our DirecTiVo this week :)

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GreyFoxx:

jblack_: Heh My daughter is 2.5 years old and right now I'm her favourite person in the world heh

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jblack_:

I need to 'repost' this

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gurft:

aboutblank: Do you have a profile set up for MPEG2 transcoding?

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aboutblank:

gurft: i _think_, but could you please tell me what exactly that means?

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sanmarcos:

any ivtv users out here? Is there any simple Tv Watching app I can have on my screen?

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sanmarcos:

I know about xawtv4 but I cant get it to compile

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gurft:

sanmarcos: TVTime

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RyeBrye:

sanmarcos – TVTime

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aboutblank:

sanmarcos: mplayer /dev/video0 ?

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RyeBrye:

oh, he beat me to it

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gurft:

aboutblank: in the office at the moment, so I can't walk you through it, but you should have a profile set up under Settings in the frontend that is configured for mpeg2

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aboutblank:

gurft, Yes, i have one i have setup for mpeg2 lossless and then the other is "autodetect from rtjpeg/mpeg4" and is set to mpeg4

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sanmarcos:

TVTime is great, but it does not support mpeg2 gurft RyeBrye

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RyeBrye:

oh

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aboutblank:

gurft, i go to my show, do job options, and say transcode to "Autodetect" or "Default" or "high quality"

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sanmarcos:

aboutblank: yea its nice, but basic, I have to set up a script so I can ivtv-tune -c channel number. A total pain

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gurft:

Is the "High Quality" one the one you have setup for lossles mpeg2?

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aboutblank:

no.

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RyeBrye:

Is there a graceful way of stopping mythbackend when it's running as a daemon? I alwas ps ax | grep mythb and then kill the process...

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gurft:

what's the name of the one you have setup for lessless mpeg2?

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gurft:

Anyone know which table holds the program data?

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aboutblank:

gurft: under "Transcoders" in setup, i have "autodetect from rtjpeg/mpeg4" "mpeg2 lossless", "[high|medium|low] quality", and then....

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GreyFoxx:

RyeBrye: That's the correct way

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RyeBrye:

Ok, just making sure

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GreyFoxx:

assuming you are just killing and not kill -9

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sanmarcos:

RyeBrye: use pgrep/pkill

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gurft:

but when you go to transcode, you don't have an mpeg2 lossless option

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aboutblank:

gurft: then under "job options – transcoding" i have "default", "autodect", "[high|medium|low] quality"

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GreyFoxx:

RyeBrye: This is the script I use for starting and stopping mythbackend

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gurft:

I just called the wife, I have a "autodetect from mpeg2"

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GreyFoxx:

http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/rc.mythtv

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gurft:

which I use for all my lossless transcoding.

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aboutblank:

gurft: yeah that's the default, i renamed it.

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aboutblank:

gurft: but that option is under the job options :(

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gurft:

okay, I dunno then, seems like you have everything kosher.

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aboutblank:

gurft: i think this problem is related to using mythtrancode --mpeg2 does NOT honor the cutlist for me, and in nuvexport, mpeg2 lossless doesn't even show up

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aboutblank:

do i not have the mpeg2 encoder or something?

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gurft:

dunno....

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** aboutblank sighs **

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sanmarcos:

anybody using xawtv4 here?

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gurft:

anyone had any real success with mytharchive? it creates my DVDs, but the menus are all jacked up and don't seem to work properly.

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Aid`:

sanmarcos: i have before

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sanmarcos:

Aid`: what system/what compiler?

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sanmarcos:

I keep getting errors in the X files while compiling

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Aid`:

debian precompiled package

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sanmarcos:

where did you find it?

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Aid`:

apt-get

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sanmarcos:

sid has 3.94

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sanmarcos:

Aid`: its not in the offical repos

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Aid`:

are you debian?

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sanmarcos:

yep, its not in sid

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Aid`:

want my sources.list?

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sanmarcos:

pastebin it

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word:

is anyone here familiar with controlling a satellite box serially?

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seth|laptop:

word serial ir blaster or direct connect?

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word:

seth|laptop: usb -> serial -> null modem adapter -> computer

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word:

trying to use this tutorial – http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Talk:Con . . . _STB_via_USB but am having troubles

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seth|laptop:

sorry irblaster w/ dishnetwork here :-(

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Aid`:

sanmarcos: http://pastebin.ca/204582

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Aid`:

word: i controlled a directv box from Serial port to LOW DATA

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word:

low data?

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word:

Aid`: ^

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kennyt:

2006-10–15 22:34:10.418 TV Error: StartPlayer(): NVP is not playing after 20000 msec

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Aid`:

yes serial to low data port

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Aid`:

it has like a RG## connector in the backj

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Aid`:

its like a phoneline sortof

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word:

Aid`: so it was the receiver with the low data port?

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Aid`:

directv box

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kennyt:

using a pvr-350 and its x driver, the video plays fine on remote frontends, but the screen is blank on the master.

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kennyt:

2006-10–15 22:34:54.637 Using the PVR-350 decoder/TV-out

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kennyt:

2006-10–15 22:34:55.005 Realtime priority would require SUID as root.

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word:

Aid`: yah, so what kind of things did you do to get it working?

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Aid`:

hook up the cable

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Aid`:

and download something called directv.pl

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Aid`:

google it you'll find it

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kennyt:

eventually it times out and goes back to the menu

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RyeBrye:

I'm trying to set up a timed auto-login, but whever I load gdmsetup the app will come up and then just freeze

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word:

Aid`: yah i have it just..I get this – http://pastebin.ca/204589

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tjcarter:

hmm, mythdvd seems to be trying to open //dev/dvd

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tjcarter:

which doesn't exist =)

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sanmarcos:

tjcarter: it usually doesnt

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gurft:

Aid: You need to use a handset cord if youre building a cable

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sanmarcos:

you ln -s from your real hd* optical drive

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Aid`:

word: donno too tired to look at it

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gurft:

it's a "slim RJ11"

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Aid`:

ty gurft

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tjcarter:

sanmarcos: nono

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gurft:

I got a handset cord, and built two cables, work like a champe with my 2 DTV boxes.

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tjcarter:

/dev/dvd exists. //dev/dvd doesn't

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tjcarter:

although that seems not to be the only problem

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word:

gurft: Mine doesn't have a low data port :-/ just a usb port

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gurft:

doh, is it a DVR?

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word:

no

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word:

it says it works on that tutorial i linked earlier..i think i just need to 'initialize' my serial cable? not sure

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word:

serial port*

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word:

i have the D11–500 which supposedly works the best

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sanmarcos:

Aid`: do you use ivtv?

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sanmarcos:

anybody got the Ivtv X driver to compile on debian>

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sanmarcos:

or ubuntu or any other deb based distro, I am desperate by now

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npodges:

this may not be the place for it, but hopefully someone can take a look at my pastebin(http://pastebin.ca/204594) i'm trying to compile the lastest lirc driver, and it's giving me errors.

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npodges:

sanmarcos: i got it to compile on ubuntu

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npodges:

sanmarcos: do you have a question regarding it?

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sanmarcos:

npodges: yes! in fact I have an ubuntu box next to this one

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sanmarcos:

npodges: can I query you?

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npodges:

yea

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sanmarcos:

I dont want to go offtopic, ok

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word:

gurft: did you just plug it in and run the app?

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gurft:

Yep, built out the cable, hooked everything up and ran the application, worked fine on he first one

[02:41:50]

gurft:

had to fine tune the directv.pl script for the second one though as I didn't want to have confusiton between the two tuners in the setup screens.

[02:42:15]

tjcarter:

hm, do not DVD drives have a region key embedded in them? (hence the firmware changes to change version?)

[02:42:21]

tjcarter:

er

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tjcarter:

region

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word:

gurft: any idea how i can test that the serial port is enabled / functioning corr]ectly?

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word:

correctly*

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gurft:

Not without a loopback connector.

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npodges:

has anyone here had luck compiling the latest lirc drivers?

[02:43:28]

word:

loopback connector?

[02:43:31]

gurft:

or hooking something else "serial" up to it

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gurft:

Yea, it's a little dongle you put ont eh serial port

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word:

ah..

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gurft:

then open up a terminal program, and anthign you type should echo back.

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word:

ah...

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gurft:

If the serial port isn't enabled though, the directv.pl script should fail, as it won't be able to open up the device

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ShockValue:

anyone know who makes the comcast digital remote? im curious if theres already a lirc setup for it

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word:

I checked to make sure it was enabled in the bios because i went in there a month or so ago and disabled some things i don't nee

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word:

need*

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word:

so if anything it's kubuntu not enabling it :-/

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word:

in the 'talk' of that tutorial someone said they had to 'touch' it with another app to get it working? perhaps i'm having a similar problem :-/

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word:

hm looks like it's working good just i don't have a module it needs for perl o.O

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sanmarcos:

did zap2it break xmltv_grab icons na?

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word:

yay found the module

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ShockValue:

grr thats weird.. i recorded a lircd.conf file in raw mode which i messed up.. so i deleted it.. now even without the -f switch, it keeps recording everythign i do in raw mode

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SlicerDicer-:

everybody wish me the best of luck I am moving to New Mexico :)

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SlicerDicer-:

ShockValue: wish me luck that the 5C is not there ;-)

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ShockValue:

ew

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ShockValue:

good luck

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SlicerDicer-:

:)

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SlicerDicer-:

I am so happy to be leaving the rain

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ShockValue:

how can i tell if there is 5c on a line? im kind of suspecting VH1 is pushing that out, since my firewire works great, except on that channel

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SlicerDicer-:

ShockValue: you power down the box or something hang on

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SlicerDicer-:

I have it on my userpage on the wiki

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SlicerDicer-:

tune to channel

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SlicerDicer-:

turn STB to standby/off

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SlicerDicer-:

press the OK/SELECT on the remote withen 2 seconds to enter diagnostic menu

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kennyt:

anyone used myth with a pvr-350? what do you have to do to get the livetv to play through?

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SlicerDicer-:

down arrow to d11 interface status and look for 5C implement

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SlicerDicer-:

then press power to exit diagnostic

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ShockValue:

cool thanks

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SlicerDicer-:

yep

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ShockValue:

grr this remote is weird.. irrecord records ok, but its in RAW.. and then i use IRW.. i get a couple random presses to work, then nothing.. until i restart lirc

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sanmarcos:

once I do --import-icon-map iconmap.xml --update-icon-map do I need to change my cron job to update to include those lines in the myhtfilldatabase command?

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RyeBrye:

Anyone running a gdmsetup auto timed login?

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sanmarcos:

do I need to keep the iconmap?

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kennyt:

on 'watch tv': 2006-10–15 22:39:44.791 Using the PVR-350 decoder/TV-out

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kennyt:

2006-10–15 22:39:45.155 Realtime priority would require SUID as root.

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kennyt:

Unable to launch application

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kennyt:

2006-10–15 22:40:41.468 TV Error: LiveTV not successfully started

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RyeBrye:

kennyt – try running mythbackend as root?

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RyeBrye:

kennyt – and for kicks try runnign mythfrontend as root to see if that lets it work

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RyeBrye:

that would give it SUID priority, I think... but I'm not sure

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kennyt:

hm, frontend's zombied now.

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RyeBrye:

oh?

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RyeBrye:

Did you run them both as root?

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kennyt:

nah, i couldn't kill the non-root frontend; i ended up rebooting... waiting now.

[03:30:18]

RyeBrye:

pkill myth

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kennyt:

what's pkill?

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RyeBrye:

someone told it to me earlier

[03:30:56]

RyeBrye:

it's basically: ps ax | grep argument (enter) kill (PID of arugment) in one easy step

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kennyt:

oh, i'd been using `killall mythfrontend' and `killall -9 mythfrontend'

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RyeBrye:

that'd do the same thing

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kennyt:

yeah; it must have been hung in kernelspace; i didn't see any oopses, though

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kennyt:

ok, trying that now...

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kennyt:

wow

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RyeBrye:

wow what?

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RyeBrye:

did it work? go boom?

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RyeBrye:

How long does it take for ivtv rpm's to get updated when a new kernel is released?

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kennyt:

it worked, essentially. now i need to go through a huge trace to find out what didn't work

[03:42:10]

kennyt:

or i could just run mythbackend as root.

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kennyt:

hm, it's probably just needing the realtime lsm...

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RyeBrye:

kennyt – I run my backend just so it's a higher priority task

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** RyeBrye is also a Linux n00b **

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sanmarcos:

how do I see/cancle current recordings?

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sanmarcos:

i did not schedule it, it might have happened because of table corruption

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GreyFoxx:

You can see and stop ongoing recordings in the Watch Recordings screen

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** tjcarter attempts to figure out how to effectively improve mythmusic UI **

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tjcarter:

Not sure I like the current one very much, but so far I haven't got great suggestions for how to do it better..

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sanmarcos:

GreyFoxx: I get sorry. no recordings available

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sanmarcos:

GreyFoxx: but when I try to watch tv I get that myth is using all the inputs available for the channel you selected.

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sanmarcos:

wow, myth doesnt hash passwords on the db

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sanmarcos:

not needed really, it might be more convenietn

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sanmarcos:

but oh well

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sanmarcos:

GreyFoxx: any ideas?

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netw1z:

anyone here have a hauppage 150 with remote/ir blaster? I can seem to bring it online

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netw1z:

the remote part is the bit im stuck at

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sanmarcos:

not ir blaster

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sanmarcos:

but you mean the hauppauge remote?

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sanmarcos:

what is the prob>?

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netw1z:

i would like to set it up

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netw1z:

to change channels on the set top box.. and also naviaget the menus

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netw1z:

but im not getting anything

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ShockValue:

cool.. got my frontend working in the bedroom tonight.. first time ive been able to skip commercials in bed :)

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netw1z:

any ideas where to start to test the IR remote

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Ediehow:

i have the america's top 120 for dishnetwork

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Ediehow:

is it possible with zap2labs to JUST get those without having to go through and select individual ones?

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tjcarter:

hm, I caught the edited for TV showing of U-571.. I expect to be depressed with it.

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tjcarter:

Bet no mention of Lawrence Pritchard Waterhouse anywhere... ;)

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sanmarcos:

is there a way to repair an isntaltion?

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tjcarter:

Ediehow: you probably have to do it by hand

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tjcarter:

sanmarcos: depends on how it's broken ;)

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Ediehow:

that certainly blows

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tjcarter:

Ediehow: only has to be done once though

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metalac:

hey anyone know if PureVideo HD will be available for Linux?

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sanmarcos:

tjcarter: Iam trying to watch tv but it says all available inputs are being used

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sanmarcos:

tjcarter: but I have absolutely no recordings, or anything in the record table

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tjcarter:

what does status show?

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tjcarter:

using defaults: system information -> status -> tuner status

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Ediehow:

i dont know why

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Ediehow:

but some channels i watch on mythtv through dishnetwork are either behind or in front by like 12 minutes

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Ediehow:

sanford and son is starting now

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Ediehow:

and it's 12:19

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tjcarter:

Ediehow: preempted by sports?

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Ediehow:

i just wanted to make sure it wasn't me:)

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sanmarcos:

tjcarter: hold on

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sanmarcos:

let me star tmyht

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ShockValue:

netw1z: have you got lirc installed and the correct modules going?

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netw1z:

think so. I cannot connect to IRW right now tho

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tuck3r:

if zap2it doesn't have my provider, am I just screwed?

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netw1z:

i get connect: Connection refused

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ShockValue:

netw1z: do you have a /dev/lirc/0 or something similar?

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netw1z:

/dev/lirc /dev/lirc1 /dev/lircd /dev/lircm

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netw1z:

is what i see in /dev

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ShockValue:

lirc1 is probably the one you want.. you have that in your conf.d file?

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netw1z:

checking now

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tjcarter:

tuck3r: you may be able to build a custom lineup, but I don't know how that's done

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netw1z:

in lircd.conf ?

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netw1z:

or lircmd.conf

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sanmarcos:

tjcarter: when I hover the tuner status, it disconnects from the master server

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sanmarcos:

then it shows tuner 0 is not active

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ShockValue:

netw1z: on my box its /etc/conf.d/lircd

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ShockValue:

that will point to your lirc device.. the /etc/lircd.conf file is something else (holds the remote codes)

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tjcarter:

sanmarcos: interesting.. I am not sure what the problem could be.. Have you tested the interface outside of myth?

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sanmarcos:

huh?

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netw1z:

shockvalue.. im working from KnoppsMyth

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sanmarcos:

tjcarter: oh nevermind, I Got some driver corruption

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sanmarcos:

glibc's bullshit change of their abi

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ShockValue:

netw1z: ive never used knopp before, but i would venture the files locations are similar

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netw1z:

i found it

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netw1z:

its stored in /etc/lirc/lircd.conf

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ShockValue:

does that have a bunch of remote codes in it, or a line pointing to your /dev/lirc1 device?

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netw1z:

greping thru it i see no /dev/lirc or /dev/lirc1

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ShockValue:

hrm.. knopp is confusing me then :)

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tjcarter:

Nope, no Lawrence Pritchard Waterhouse! ;)

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ShockValue:

i have to bail for now

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tjcarter:

This movie's fictionalized history differs from my own.

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sanmarcos:

when I start watching Tv, my screen just locks, it goes black, and the computer freezes, my monitor seems to respawn two times

[06:05:38]

sanmarcos:

any idaes what the problem could be?

[06:05:41]

sanmarcos:

or how can I Get more info?

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tjcarter:

like I said, you probably should start with testing your tuner alone

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tjcarter:

could be ivtv problems

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sanmarcos:

no, I can see it fine

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sanmarcos:

mplayer /dev/video0, work sfine

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tjcarter:

okay

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tjcarter:

hmmm

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tjcarter:

sounds like either recording or playback isn't working then

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sanmarcos:

table corruption

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tjcarter:

oh, hmm

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sanmarcos:

should I redo myth-setup?

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tjcarter:

you could drop the table and recreate everything in setup

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sanmarcos:

which table?

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tjcarter:

mythconverg

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tjcarter:

first though

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tjcarter:

read howto on backup/restore

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tjcarter:

do a backup. You might be able to grep some bits out of the old backup that are not corrupt to save you some effort in repopulating the new table

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sanmarcos:

why is it called mythconverg

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tjcarter:

because someone called it that.

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tjcarter:

good enough reason? =)

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sanmarcos:

but im curious mommy

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sanmarcos:

ill try one more time

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sanmarcos:

then ill drop the data

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tjcarter:

I'm a non-developer, so I have no idea.

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sanmarcos:

bah still same problem

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KaZeR:

which FS do you guys recommend for mythtv storage ?

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sanmarcos:

ext3 is fine

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KaZeR:

fine thanks.

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LabMonkey:

I'm using ext3 on a dmraid-0

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sanmarcos:

but you could go with xfs or reiserfs if you want better perofrmance with large files

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LabMonkey:

dual 300GB sata drives

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LabMonkey:

works fine for me

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LabMonkey:

of course I'm using a hauppage 500 tuner

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KaZeR:

ok i'll stick with ext3. file erasing is a bit slow but it's still acceptable.

[06:23:12]

KaZeR:

thanks guys :)

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LabMonkey:

which, I suppose, is relevant since the hardware encoder/decoder streams directly from the file

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LabMonkey:

err

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LabMonkey:

from/to

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LabMonkey:

software encoders may exhibit different performance

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LabMonkey:

characteristics

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KaZeR:

i'm using a pvr350 atm.

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netw1z:

is there a way to play snes games full screen?

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tjcarter:

KaZeR: I suggest xfs or jfs

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tjcarter:

KaZeR: ext3 takes forever to delete a file

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tjcarter:

if you don't mind that (you will find that you do most likely), xfs is a good choice

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KaZeR:

thanks tjcarter. in fact i already have a setup running mythtv. since i'm building a new one, i wanted some inpus on that point.

[06:43:37]

KaZeR:

for the moment, file time deletion doesn't bore me more than that.

[06:43:54]

KaZeR:

what is really boring me is file exports :)

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kraut:

moin

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KaZeR:

ffmpeg or transcode segfault when i try to use them against my recordings. so nuvexport is useless. and mythtv's transcoding produce not-so-compliant files.. i'm trying to find what i may have setup wrong..

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KaZeR:

moin kraut

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mirak:

is the TV out of a DVB-C card hauppauge nexus or tecnotrend premium better than TV OUT of video card ?

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tjcarter:

KaZeR: The solution to file export is to not need to do more than simply swap NUV for RIFF on the existing stream data

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KaZeR:

riff?

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tjcarter:

AVI's container format

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tjcarter:

basically, lossless export

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LabMonkey:

damnit

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LabMonkey:

how do you disable DPMS with nvidia drivers in xorg.com?

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LabMonkey:

err

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LabMonkey:

conf

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KaZeR:

tjcarter, sounds good, any tips or url to do that?

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Neeesat25:

Hello

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Neeesat25:

Anyone using mythtv in frame Buffer mode?

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Juski:

not many people are these days

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Neeesat25:

I need a better tv out

[07:35:08]

Juski:

geforce2 card?

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Juski:

do you have one of them I mean?

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Neeesat25:

I have matrox 450, ATI 9200

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Juski:

my fx5200 card gives me nice clear tv output

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Juski:

time to get a nvidia then ;)

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Neeesat25:

I have 32'' Flat tv

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Juski:

time to get a nvidia then ;)

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Neeesat25:

I need superb TV out

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Neeesat25:

I have try nvidia geforce mx440

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Juski:

put it this way... I have a Panasonic standalone DVD player... and all my nvidia tv outs look as good as that

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Neeesat25:

Does it has Hardware Mpeg?

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Juski:

yeah but some nvidia cards have crappy tv outputs – they use cheap tv encoders. the ones with conexant or nvidia tv output encoders are fantasic

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Juski:

yes it'll let you use xvmc

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Neeesat25:

xvmc?

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Juski:

xvmc.. x video motion compensation... i.e. help decoding mpeg2

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Juski:

what's the problem with the tv out quality btw?

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Neeesat25:

Juski which is the best card?

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Juski:

what's the problem with the tv out quality btw?

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Juski:

it might not even be the card to blame

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Neeesat25:

It's not so clear

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Juski:

fuzzy? funny lines all over the picture? 'tearing' effects on moving video?

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Juski:

or just 'soft focus' ?

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Neeesat25:

soft focus

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Neeesat25:

like

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Neeesat25:

colors are not so clear

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word:

anyone here familiar with controlling a satellite box serially?

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Juski:

for TV out you should ideally be using a resolution as close to the TV standard you're using. For PAL, 720x576. For NTSC, 720x480

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Neeesat25:

I use 1024x768

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Juski:

dammit I need to move my ass & go to work

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Neeesat25:

So the best card to use is?

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Juski:

Neeesat25: try a lower resolution.

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Juski:

there is no 'best' card

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Neeesat25:

ok juski thanks

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Juski:

YMMV with everything out there

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Neeesat25:

YMMV?

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Juski:

if you can get 720x576 or 720x480, go with whichever

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Juski:

YMMV == your mileage may vary.. i.e. you might not achieve what others have even with the same setup

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Neeesat25:

what x are you using?

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Juski:

I use 720x576 for my PAL TV

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Neeesat25:

I use also pal

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Neeesat25:

Do you use gnome?

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Juski:

nope

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Juski:

fluxbox

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Neeesat25:

KDE?

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Juski:

full desktop environments are way too bloated for a mythtv box

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Juski:

anyway.. I'm off to work. good luck

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Neeesat25:

OK I will follow that direction

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Neeesat25:

Thanks

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Neeesat25:

Good day

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TakKovacs:

has anyone seen a dvico dual digital play a channel fine on one tuner but no good on the other ?

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fish_:

re

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word:

Can't call method "setcflag" on an undefined value anyone know what that means? i'm getting it from a script (directv.pl) to control a satellite box serially.

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Mattwj2005:

hey guys

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Mattwj2005:

anyone around?

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Mattwj2005:

I got some good news if anyone wants to hear

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Mattwj2005:

well I got HDTV to work on a Celeron 1.2 Ghz

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Mattwj2005:

through the help of a Radeon

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Juski:

"I bet he uses XvMC" :)

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Mattwj2005:

yeah

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Mattwj2005:

1.2 Ghz!!!!

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Juski:

XvMC on ATI?

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Juski:

not in linux

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Mattwj2005:

Nvida

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Juski:

Nvidia don't make Radeons

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Mattwj2005:

oops wrong machine

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Mattwj2005:

the Radeon is my laptop :)

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Juski:

that WOULD be something to tell the world about

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Mattwj2005:

the backend has a Nvida Geforce FX 5200 or something like that

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Juski:

hang on – so the backend is a celeron 1.2Ghz and it's only recording the HD.. you're playing it on a laptop?

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Mattwj2005:

no

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Mattwj2005:

I am playing it back on the 1.2 Ghz

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Juski:

right

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Mattwj2005:

recording and playing it back

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Juski:

720p or 1080i?

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Mattwj2005:

1080i and 720p both work

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Mattwj2005:

the only problem is I had to shut off deinterlacing

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Juski:

haha I bet

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Mattwj2005:

I am going to try bob

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Juski:

this is gonna be a shitty day. first -took more well over an hour to get to work. secondly the cleaners have taken my bloody cup away to clean it & lost it AGAIN. Like I'm not capable of washing my own frigging cup!

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Juski:

bob is best for xvmc anyway

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Mattwj2005:

yeah it appears to work

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Juski:

now do h.264 :-P

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Mattwj2005:

hehe I have a new 15 inch television aka a crt connected to my mythtv box

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Mattwj2005:

yeah right ;)

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Mattwj2005:

divx and mpeg4 are do-able though

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Mattwj2005:

heck my geforce has builtin decoding for mpeg4 I think

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Juski:

h.264 is mpeg4 AFAIK

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Juski:

only accelerates mpeg2 in linux though

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Mattwj2005:

oh okay

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Juski:

and nvidia have no plans to get 'purevideo' working in linux for a good while

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Mattwj2005:

I should hook this up in my bedroom

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Mattwj2005:

that way I'll have HDTV in my bedroom as well as my living room

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Mattwj2005:

well I am off to bed

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Mattwj2005:

good night everyone

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Juski:

quiet, innit?

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Merlin83b:

Shh

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quicksilver:

nobody here but us chickens

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fish_:

chickens?

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Juski:

there ain't nobody here at all

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ivor:

cluck

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Juski:

just received a very worrying email

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ivor:

me to.

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ivor:

my project's canned.

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Juski:

HDD manufacturer has found that one drive model, in conjunction with another model on the same PATA bus can get hung up, when just 2 drives are connected together (i.e. not plugged into an IDE controller)

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Juski:

ivor: ouch!

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Juski:

ivor: PHB strikes again?

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ivor:

Juski: eh. what do you mean "when not plugged into an ide controller" ?

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Juski:

I mean when the drives are just plugged onto a cable which aint plugged in

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Juski:

when you power them up, one drive always fails when it's on the same bus as the other disk

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Juski:

this is whether they're plugged into an IDE controller or not

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ivor:

ah I see. so the two drives are connected and plugged in, but the fact that they are together means that when the controller powers up everything is screwed?

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Juski:

no just one drive

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ivor:

well yes.

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Juski:

one drive is getting its initialisation routine fucked up because of the other

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ivor:

sucks

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Juski:

hmm I wonder if it's because of the DASP signal.. not that this is my concern.. the WHY of it all is the manufacturer's issue

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Juski:

this manufacturer btw is a very big name in the business

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Juski:

still – you can't expect them to test every drive model with every other drive model

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Juski:

ivor – how much work is that which has been flushed today?

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ivor:

linux port of 4 million lines of code.

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Juski:

!!!

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** ivor shrugs. **

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ivor:

knew it was too good to be true.

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Juski:

managers, lawyers & accountants.. scourge of the Earth

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ivor:

turning up at work. getting on with a job. enjoying it. achieving something.

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ivor:

had to be a catch

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Juski:

there always is. it doesn't mean you're out of a job though does it?

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ivor:

no should be fine.

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ivor:

just annoying. I'll concentrate on our FPGA coding instead.

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ivor:

that's also fun.

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Juski:

ah cool. I know how annoying it is though, been there myself. weeks/months of hard graft & all for nowt

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Juski:

ah you do VHDL too?

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ivor:

I do indeed.

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Juski:

clever sod! ;-)

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ivor:

anyone have any experience of calling into windows dll code from linux? how does mplayer call windows codecs?

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gbee:

guess your answer is in the mplayer source ;)

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ivor:

yeah yeah, but if someone knows the answer then that would be nice. :)

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ivor:

and b) have you tried reading the mplayer source?

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Juski:

if it's as bad as the manual...

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ivor:

aha from wikipedia... us uses a dll loader forked from avifile which forked from the wine loader.

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Juski:

workmate has been crowing about purevideo today

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Juski:

knocks his cpu usage down to like 5% playing back HDTV

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gbee:

Juski: booked my train tickets

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Juski:

that'd be a dll worth getting to operate in linux!

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ivor:

purevideo? is that the nvidia h264 one?

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Juski:

yup

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ivor:

ooh I'll have to take a look.

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Juski:

the 5% cpu usage is playing back mpeg2 HD btw

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gbee:

what about mpeg4?

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Juski:

gbee: msg me your name & I can get a pass ordered for you

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Juski:

gbee: I dunno about mpeg4.. workmate only has mpeg2 HD files AFAIK

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gbee:

ahh ... still, 5% is impressive

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gbee:

don't even manage that for SD mpeg2

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Juski:

I think the h.264 HD streams still give folks issues with purevideo & 3ghz machines

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Juski:

bah I have to cross 3 voids to dig out my login details for the exhibitor areas lol

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Juski:

vnc into liunux box, vnc into windows box...

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Juski:

need to find out how to get nx working properly so I can free up a port

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Juski:

woo work is letting me into my gmail!

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Zider:

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Juski:

hrm... Winterhill seems to have a new mux at 810166670

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Juski:

oops me & my damn memory.. it's not new at all lol

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Ruleke:

sounds like jibberish to me :)

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Juski:

bugger. one of my cards can't get a whole multiplex

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Juski:

I need an aerial amp

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Juski:

time to add the new C5 channels by hand. oh yay

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gbee:

don't like the scanner?

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Juski:

still in 0.19.. scanning broken

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gbee:

ahh

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Juski:

plus it's more fun to do it this way

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Juski:

ah bugger. what are the LCNs of the new c5 channels?

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gbee:

35/36

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Juski:

five life = 35 ?

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gbee:

they've moved a few channels down to fre up those numbers

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Juski:

dammit

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gbee:

no, other way around

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Juski:

how dare they!

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gbee:

35 – Five US, 36 – Five Life

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Juski:

cheers

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gbee:

ITV4 is now 28, Film 4 – 29, E4+1 – 30

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Juski:

I can't get film4 on one of my tuners.. never noticed until just now

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Juski:

that's the dodgy mux with TMF & stuff on it

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gbee:

it's on multiplex D

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gbee:

yeah

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Juski:

ah hang on it doesn't matter a jot what I make the channel numbers does it?

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Juski:

I don't have anything at 35 & 36 anyway

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gbee:

easy to not miss that multiplex – were it not for Film4

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Juski:

easy for me to miss it all the same

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Juski:

never anything on it I've not already seen (that I'd have wanted to watch)

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Juski:

but – one less TUTV channel is good

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KaZeR:

anyone knows why ffmpeg/transcode/mencoder segfaults with my mythtv's nuv files?

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hashbang:

Juski: is 'the dodgy mux' a national problem, then?

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Juski:

hashbang: nah. it's only dodgy on one of my tuners so I need an amp

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hashbang:

Juski: only I've got an amp, but that same multiplex has a lower SNR than the others, and occasionally drops out for me also.

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Juski:

can hardly wait til it's all qam64 on 8k

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Juski:

.. if only to hear OnDigital box owners screaming :-P

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Juski:

lovely jubbly... both channels added

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Juski:

and they work. that was easier than scanning

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kevin_:

When I run nuvexport, i get about 6 of the 11 options disabled (Xvid, DVCD, DivX, ASF, MP3, PSP, MPEG->MPEG2 cut only). When I select one it tells me I need: tcprobe, lvemux, and avidemux2.

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kevin_:

None of these are on my distro's rpm service, can anyone recommend where to get them individually or in a package?

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Juski:

kevin_: grab a slice of cvs ffmpeg

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Juski:

and compile it yourself with everything enabled

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Beirdo:

lvemux is part of lve

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Beirdo:

he has ffmpeg

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Juski:

ah

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Beirdo:

tcprobe is part of transcode

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Beirdo:

avidemux2 is a package of its own

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Juski:

I had a similar issue on ubuntu because ffmpeg had next to nothing enabled in it

[13:12:29]

kevin_:

i tried to get transcode off the web but both links were broken. can you suggest any that may work?

[13:12:29]

Beirdo:

however, the mpeg2->mpeg2 cut only has been disabled for some time, it sounds like your nuvexport is old too

[13:12:44]

Beirdo:

hmm

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Beirdo:

something like transcoding.org or something like that

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kevin_:

okay, i'll check it out

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Beirdo:

I'd have to google, which you could try too :)

[13:13:38]

kevin_:

ick

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Beirdo:

Juski, yeah, they send out a seriously disabled ffmpeg

[13:14:13]

Juski:

software patent, ligitation prevention encripplement

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kevin_:

yeah, i have ffmpeg but i guess it's not cutting it =|

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** Beirdo patiently waits for his coffee to finish brewing **

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Beirdo:

kevin_, the majority of the work will be done by ffmpeg afaik

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Beirdo:

although yours may still be built without support for some of the things you are looking for

[13:16:03]

Beirdo:

hmmm, wonder why DVCD is disabled when VCD isn't?

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zoibee:

hi. in my previous installation mplayer had a graphical seek line, how do i get this? cant remember what i did to enable this...

[13:16:25]

Beirdo:

the only difference is the audio sampling rate

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kevin_:

is that weird? just double checked.... VCD definitely is not disabled at that menu

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kevin_:

yeah, does sound odd

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Beirdo:

what does it complain about on DVCD?

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kevin_:

oh, haha....... it's not disabled. I saw some comment in parenthesis after it and assumed it was disabled. it just says something about the audio rate

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Beirdo:

heh

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Beirdo:

OK

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Beirdo:

whew

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kevin_:

4. Export to DVCD (VCD with 48kHz audio for making DVDs)

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Beirdo:

yup

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kevin_:

okay, just downloaded the transcode tarball, let me go ahead and make this

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Beirdo:

I wrote the VCD and DVCD modules :)

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Beirdo:

so I was wondering what I had messed up

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** Beirdo wanders off to get his coffee. **

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kevin_:

haha

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kevin_:

d'oh i'm missing a bunch of dependencies of transcode

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KaZeR:

kevin_, what distro are you running? (no troll intended)

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kevin_:

mandriva 2005 le

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kevin_:

haha

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Juski:

no comment

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kevin_:

once I get nuvexport and lirc working I'd like to just leave this box alone and use it as a dedicated mythbox and build another pc with some less antiquated release on it

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KaZeR:

almost every distro has a "live" functionality yet, weird taht mandriva doesn't

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KaZeR:

kevin_, don't you have something like yum?

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kevin_:

mandriva has urpmi.... that is similar to yum right?

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Juski:

eh? I'm sure someone brought a mandriva live cd into work to show me

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Juski:

has a nice 'dolphin'-like bootsplash IIRC

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kevin_:

yeah, the newest mandriva live cd, the 2007 release looks sick

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KaZeR:

i don't know urpmi. you have to manually download packages?

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kevin_:

aiglx and 3d desktop and whatnot is supposedly supported

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kevin_:

or included, i should say

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Juski:

that's all well & good but mythfrontend won't work on 3d desktops

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Juski:

at least not with compiz anyway

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kevin_:

right, i don't plan on running that

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kevin_:

two different boxes

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Juski:

afternoon stuarta

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stuarta:

afternoon Juski

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kevin_:

d'oh! I need to learn something to install ffmpeg?! this svn nonsense....

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Juski:

I thought they were still using cvs

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Juski:

either way it's not hard to check something out

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stuarta:

the ffmpeg mob aren't big on releases

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Juski:

with svn you'd do "svn co http://foo/bar/branch/etc"

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kevin_:

have to find an svn client first

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janneg:

kevin_: they have snapshots

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kevin_:

snapshot as in I can download a tar file, extract and install it?

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kevin_:

please excuse the newbie questions... all I know how to do is use my distro's urpmi function, and download/install from source

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qu0zl:

kevin_, there'll be a svn client in your distros repositories

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qu0zl:

search for svn, or 'subversion'

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janneg:

kevin_: I thought so, but I can't find them, use svn checkout svn://svn.mplayerhq.hu/ffmpeg/trunk ffmpeg

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kevin_:

thanks janneg need to get my svn client going first though

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kevin_:

qu0zl I just found an svn client in my distro's rpm repository

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kevin_:

installing now

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kevin_:

oops........ should I have checked it out as root, or does that not matter?

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Juski:

if the user you run the svn checkout as, has write privileges on the dir you did it from you should be fine

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janneg:

no, you shouldn't work as root, unless it is strictly necessary

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kevin_:

there's no reason i can't just do a chown/chmod though right?

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Juski:

yup. no reason

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qu0zl:

none at all kevin_

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kevin_:

heh this is turning into quite the can of worms.... after doing the ./configure for ffmpeg:

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kevin_:

/home/kevin/tmp/cc41rCDe.s:11: Error: alignment not a power of 2

[13:44:01]

kevin_:

that message is from the assembler

[13:45:33]

kevin_:

so i can't make it yet

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kevin_:

oh, woops. i just didn't do the -R switch when I chowned. i think i'm all set

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stuarta:

Juski: pub location -> http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=52455 . . . ewsearch.srf

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Juski:

stuarta: cheers

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stuarta:

have we a cunning plan for next week yet?

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Juski:

shit! it's next week!

[13:53:09]

stuarta:

yup! :)

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stuarta:

and i thought i'd have a nice easy week off between jobs. no chance...

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Juski:

haha

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Juski:

well, the 'official' drinkies are at 'the Champion' nearest Notting Hill Gate tube stn

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stuarta:

did have 3 days off, but my mate had a car accident so off to visit him mon & tue

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stuarta:

tue eve?

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Juski:

wednesday eve

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Juski:

after day 1 of the show

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stuarta:

end of day 1 :)

[13:55:19]

Juski:

I'll need a beer by then

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Juski:

I better order them case badges NOW

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stuarta:

me too

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Juski:

hmmm numbers.. 30 or 40 would do it I think

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Zider:

badgerbadgerbadger MUSHROOM MUSHROOM

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Juski:

don't wanna be left with many

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stuarta:

the champion -> http://www.fluidfoundation.com/venueDetails.asp?BarRef=5067

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** stuarta suspects Zider has been licking the badger instead of the mushroom.... **

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stuarta:

hmmm :-/

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Zider:

stuarta: ofcourse!

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stuarta:

i'm somewhat concerned by the double entendre in my statement

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Zider:

entwhat?

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Juski:

badgers ordered :)

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stuarta:

en-ton-dre

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stuarta:

those wink wink nudge nudge type statements.

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Zider:

hints? :P

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stuarta:

double meanings :-P

[14:03:19]

Zider:

ah

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Zider:

implications :)

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Juski:

40 badgers on their way via special delivery in the next couple of days.. woohoo

[14:03:46]

Juski:

place bets now!

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Zider:

Juski: in cages I hope

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stuarta:

memememememe

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Juski:

one badger: http://www.juski.co.uk/newcasebadge1.png

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Zider:

ooo

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Juski:

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Juski:

final design is different btw.. mythtv logo text is centred on the finished item

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Juski:

not having people nicking the graphic & printing their own.. heheh

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mishehu:

badgers? BADGERS??? We don't need no stinkin' badgers!

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Juski:

how about a whole pig?! laaaaahvly grub!

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** stuarta dreams of roast badger **

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mishehu:

Today we are going to teach poodles how to fly...

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Zider:

not noodles?

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mishehu:

Zider: record/rent UHF

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Zider:

seen it

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mishehu:

has anybody been noticing that dvd playback sometimes gets choppy? I'm guessing that it might happen on transition from one chapter to the next

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** stuarta fancies a spot of flying pig **

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dorel_1:

which flag do i need to put to enable debugging on buliding mythtv-frontend?

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mishehu:

dorel_1: -g I believe

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mishehu:

I never remember all those silly gcc params heh

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Juski:

mishehu: maybe on a layer change

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dorel_1:

i think maybe --enable-debug

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mishehu:

Juski: doubtful. it happens too often

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mishehu:

dorel_1: *shrug*

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Juski:

never noticed it even on my 1ghz frontend tbh

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mishehu:

Juski: are you using the internal dvd player app?

[14:17:37]

mishehu:

I never have it happen with xine.

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stuarta:

crap, how did my ticket list get so long ???

[14:18:28]

quicksilver:

mmmm roast badger

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Zider:

can the dvd menus be controlled with keyboard in the internal player?

[14:18:40]

stuarta:

yup

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dorel_1:

sheesh, there's no --enable-debug in configure but there is --disable-debug

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stuarta:

--compile-type=debyg

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stuarta:

--compile-type=debug even

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Zider:

oh goodie.. maybe I'll try it instead of xine then ;)

[14:19:45]

netw1z:

anyone know how I can fix my overscan problems with a nvidia card? Im getting a blue frame around LiveTV and the picture isnt centeted on my Sony Wega

[14:19:48]

stuarta:

the internal player is improving all the time. the more testing it gets the better it becomes

[14:20:23]

qu0zl:

netw1z, Edit the file /home/mythtv/.xinitrc and add the following line:

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qu0zl:

xvattr -a XV_COLORKEY -v 1

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Zider:

when I tried it last time it was pretty crappy.. but that was a while back ;)

[14:20:34]

Zider:

that's why I used xine

[14:20:35]

qu0zl:

according to http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation to get rid of the blue bars

[14:20:35]

Juski:

netw1z: it's nigh on impossible to get X centred on TV outputs

[14:20:51]

Juski:

also search for overscan on the wikiwikiwah

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Zider:

netw1z: I found the solution to that blue frame

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netw1z:

really? Im eager :)

[14:21:20]

dorel_1:

stuarta: i want to build the mythtv-frontend-0.20 package from debian sources, where do i set the debugging to enable so i can just build it again with dpkg?

[14:21:26]

Juski:

overscan the borders off using nvidia-settings

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Zider:

netw1z: I'm booting the mythbox now to see what the command was :D

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stuarta:

dorel_1: probably in debian/rules

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Juski:

then adjust the mythtv gui to fit the screen in appearance settings. then set mythfrontend to not use GUI size for tv playback

[14:22:13]

dorel_1:

stuarta: yeah im looking at it.

[14:22:15]

stuarta:

dorel_1: you trying to debug a crash or something.

[14:22:28]

dorel_1:

stuarta: yeah, im experiencing crashes all the time and trying to figure out the problem.

[14:22:45]

dorel_1:

stuarta: juski suggested to compile a package with debugging and try to find out whats wrong

[14:22:47]

stuarta:

you'll need to run head. test against that

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dorel_1:

stuarta: what do you mean?

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stuarta:

regular crashes need to be tested for against the latest source code.

[14:23:45]

netw1z:

sweet!

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stuarta:

if the problem still exists it can be fixed there and backported if necessary

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dorel_1:

stuarta: i see. so you suggest i get latest from cvs and compile it with debugging enabled?

[14:24:47]

stuarta:

dorel_1: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-22.html#ss22.2

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Juski:

not cvs.. svn

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stuarta:

yes that's what you need to do. (also backup your db so you can go back to 0.20 if needed)

[14:26:32]

stuarta:

there's normally a few of us around to help if needed.

[14:26:41]

Juski:

_always_ back up your database regularly anyway ;)

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Zider:

I never have ;)

[14:27:09]

Juski:

I should have a go at providing a backtrace of mythcontrols segfaulting

[14:27:21]

** stuarta nukes Zider's database for fun & profit **

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Zider:

stuarta: I don't have much interesting there anyways ;)

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dorel_1:

stuarta: ok so i need to compile *only* mythtv-frontend from the source svn, right? no need to recompile the backend, mythtv core or other stuff... or that wouldnt work cause of version conflicts?

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Juski:

dorel_1: all have to be the same version

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stuarta:

dorel_1: the whole lot. if you have packages installed you *must* uninstall them

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Juski:

uninstall & delete. I found apt-get remove left libs behind

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stuarta:

dpkg --purge

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dorel_1:

ahh

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dorel_1:

thats an entire system re-do

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dorel_1:

i cant do that

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Zider:

netw1z: xvattr -a XV_COLORKEY -v 0

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Zider:

netw1z: should do it

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dorel_1:

maybe ill stick to compiling in debug mode only the 0.20 version that i have

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dorel_1:

through apt-get source packages

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stuarta:

dorel_1: not really, just uninstall them, you can go back to packages when you've helped us find your problem

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kevin_:

d'oh i got ffmpeg all compiled and installed. but i forgot to do the enable xvid and what not. lol

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dorel_1:

but if im having the problem with the package i got from apt (the binary one) then i will have it also with the source package so i dont get it

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stuarta:

dorel_1: okay. bare minimum then, try it with a checkout of 0.20-fixes

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** stuarta sighs **

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Zider:

32MB database.. yum

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dorel_1:

and that wouldnt cause conflicts with my current packages?

[14:31:44]

Juski:

you'd still have to uninstall em

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stuarta:

thats why they have to be removed

[14:31:53]

directhex|work:

what are the low-pain options for using an off-the-shelf universal remote (i.e. not an ugly plastic pc-specific remote like an mce or remote-wonder) with myth, on a machine without a serial port?

[14:32:23]

dorel_1:

0.20–0.1 i think

[14:32:30]

Juski:

directhex|work: get a learning one & use the existing IR receiver

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netw1z:

zider: xvattr -a XV_COLORKEY -v 0 ?

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Juski:

learning/programmable ;)

[14:32:51]

Zider:

netw1z: should get rid of the blue border

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netw1z:

should i shove this in a config file?

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stuarta:

makes it black

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Zider:

netw1z: put it in a start script for xorg or the windowmanager or something

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directhex|work:

Juski, by "existing" you mean "buy an MCE remote or USB/IR keyboard", presumably?

[14:34:16]

Juski:

directhex|work: basically, yes.. or use the remote receiver that comes with your tuner.. if your box is an all-in-one FE/BE

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netw1z:

thanks dude!

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Juski:

netw1z: still leaves you with a black border though

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netw1z:

there is no way to center it with nvidia tv-out?

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Juski:

nope. overscan til the black borders are gone, then centre the gui in the appearance settings

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Juski:

time for me to go. wanna miss the awful traffic

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stuarta:

l8r

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Juski:

laters, y'all

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Zider:

try different resolutions too.. for me, 800x600 is more centered than 640x480

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qu0zl:

cya Juski

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mishehu:

bah.

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mishehu:

Zider: do you use a remote to control mythtv?

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mishehu:

if so, you can also use it to control the dvd menus/playback with the internal player. I never had any luck getting xine to work with lirc.

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Zider:

mishehu: no.. I tried to build an IR receiver but it doesn't work :(

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mishehu:

Zider: ah. I have a sblive audigy platinum that came with a remote, that's what I use. didn't have to build anything.

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Zider:

:/

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Zider:

I don't even have a tuner

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mishehu:

ah, tuner is not necessary heh.

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flip_fl:

I'm trying to hunt down a problem with XvMC with pre-compiled myth from edgy repos so I pulled the latest from svn and did a make- make install — had a version conflict so I pulled the .20 trunk -fixes and am compiling now — just read the instructions to dorel_l where previous packages need to be removed – so I removed my repo packages – Question – do I need to specifically uninstall the bleeding edge version before running make-

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flip_fl:

install on trunk-fixes

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mishehu:

who needs a tuner when one has gnutella/torrents

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Zider:

mishehu: I was planning on using the mythbox as video recorder primarily.. :P

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mishehu:

Zider: so are you going to get a tuner card?

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Zider:

mishehu: sometime yes..

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stuarta:

flip_fl: you must be running a consistent version everywhere.

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flip_fl:

stuarta: I'm realizing that now--I installed binaries, then plastered latest svn over that- it didn't work because of version conflicts- I've removed the repository binary stuff through apt-

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stuarta:

yup. then install your build

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directhex|work:

mishehu, someone who doesn't want to break the law, or contribute to the image of open source people as dirty software pirates, they might want a tuner when they have peer-to-peer

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flip_fl:

and now I'm compiling .20 trunk fixes- my question — Do I need to worry about the .21 I installed from make-install

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directhex|work:

flip_fl, as long as you keep your --prefixes clean, you should be fine

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mishehu:

directhex|work: if the recording is off of the airwaves (and not cable) it's technically legal to do in the USA.

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flip_fl:

erm-- what are --prefixes

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stuarta:

it'll install over your previous manual install, so that's okay

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mishehu:

but I guess next time I'll have to use <joking></joking> tags so it's obvious

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netw1z:

hey Zider: i get xvattr: Couldn't open display

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flip_fl:

stuarta: thanks

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netw1z:

when i execute that line

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stuarta:

but when you had the packages installed the prefix path would have been different, which has issues.

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Fnc-1_:

so i read somewhere that the cable companies, have to broadcase the local HD channels in the clear over their wire,,, is this true? i read thats its QAM-64 also but when i scan with that, i get nothin

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stuarta:

hahahaha!

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stuarta:

if you are *lucky* they might broadcast *something* in the clear

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flip_fl:

<- confused-- what are prefixes

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directhex|work:

flip_fl, when you "make install" something, it installs to the location set by the --prefix flag in ./configure

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mishehu:

Fnc-1_: I don't know about the QAM, as I've not touched the QAM directly. but I do get OTA hd channels at full res on my motorola stb firewire

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Ruleke:

actually the regional channels have to be FTA in some places

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stuarta:

flip_fl: --prefix=/usr vs --prefix=/usr/local

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flip_fl:

ah like /usr/bin vs /usrsomething else

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directhex|work:

flip_fl, a great way to break a package-managed system is by not keeping things in their own little compartments, safe from the rest of your system

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mishehu:

Fnc-1_: assuming you are in the USA and on comcast, I'd imagine you'd get the same.

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directhex|work:

flip_fl, for example, installing into /usr will almost always overwrite files that your OS package manager is in charge of, and usually brwak horribly if the overwritten files are updated by a package upgrade

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mishehu:

I can't believe I pay $70/mo for cumcast cable and I can only get OTA and public access on the firewire port :-/

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stuarta:

worse is when you leave the package installed and install the compiled version in /usr/local

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stuarta:

then you run the /usr/local binaries against the /usr libs. *bang*

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directhex|work:

or anywhere in $PATH

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mishehu:

and they told me it's because I "might keep the recording forever". no shit, in fact, now I WANT to keep it forever because it's obvious you want to bleed me dry.

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Fnc-1_:

not comcast

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Fnc-1_:

dong have a box

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flip_fl:

so- should I uninstall the .21 version, change the configure file and recompile the .20 trunk -fixes

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directhex|work:

flip_fl, what precisely are you trying to do?

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stuarta:

flip_fl: remove the packaged version and install which ever version (SVN if debugging)

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flip_fl:

I'm trying to fix a problem with XvMC

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flip_fl:

stuarta: ok

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Ruleke:

I keep having db problems when downgrading tbh :)

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directhex|work:

flip_fl, the *safest* option is to remove all other versions, and install with a prefix along the lines of /opt/myth-svn20061016/

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stuarta:

Ruleke: that's what DB backups are for....

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directhex|work:

flindet, and always back up your database when running dodgy pre-release versions!

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directhex|work:

i.e. BEFORE running said dodgy version

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Ruleke:

stuarta: yeah just mentioning that ;)

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stuarta:

:)

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Ruleke:

for the record :p

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flip_fl:

directhex | work: if I installed svn latest (.21) with 'make-install', how do I remove? 'make uninstall'?

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directhex|work:

flip_fl, if you're lucky

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Zider:

hm, I don? get any sound when I use the internal player.. :P

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Zider:

netw1z: do you have DISPLAY=":0" set?

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directhex|work:

flip_fl, by manually deleting everything related to it if you're unlucky. which is sorta the point of using a prefix like /opt/name-version – you can erase it without fear

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flip_fl:

directhex | work: make uninstall _seemed_ to work

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Zider:

aren't there any dvd-specific settings for 4:1/16:9/anamorhic/letterbox/and so on?

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netw1z:

zider probably not

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netw1z:

im trying to hack together this knoppmyth version of mythtv

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flip_fl:

directhex | work: for what i'm trying to do see section 8 here : http://patrick.wagstrom.net/tutorials/mythTV64/mythTV64.xml

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directhex|work:

flip_fl, use your tab key to complete nicknames

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Ruleke:

:)

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directhex|work:

flip_fl, you're running dapper or edgy?

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flip_fl:

directhex|work, ok thanks for tip-- after changing configure it now says its using the nvidia XvMX

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flip_fl:

directhex|work, edgy

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directhex|work:

flip_fl, and changing /etc/X11/XvMCConfig to say "libXvMCNVIDIA.so.1" doesn't do what you want?

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flip_fl:

directhex|work, no still get loads of prebuffering messages and unwatchable playback

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Zider:

stuarta: is there any way to get a 4:3 dvd image to get stretched on a widescreen TV?

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stuarta:

master it in 16:9?

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Zider:

master it..?

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seth|laptop:

during playback or creation?

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Zider:

playback

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stuarta:

oh, you mean a bought one?

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flip_fl:

question – what is difference between LibXvMCNVIDIA.xx.x. and libXvMCNVIDIA_dynamic.xx.x

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Zider:

stuarta: I mean in the internal player :P

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seth|laptop:

press "W" if using the internal player, or press "A" if using xine

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directhex|work:

flip_fl, isn't that a known problem with nvidia != 7667?

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seth|laptop:

then press "W"

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Zider:

seth|laptop: so that has to be done every time I play a film?

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stuarta:

it should be able to autodetect it

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seth|laptop:

as far as I know Zider, yes

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seth|laptop:

its what I do

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flip_fl:

directhex|work, isn't what a known problem

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seth|laptop:

I have it mapped to my remote.

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seth|laptop:

for TV playback, you can set it in you utilities>setup>tv>tv playback

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directhex|work:

flip_fl, XvMC misbehaviour

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Zider:

also, I don't get any audio when I play a DVD with the internal player.. I know mythtv can play audio tho, since I use mythmusic :P

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flip_fl:

directhex|work, you mean XvMC period in !7667 drivers? you saying I should run 7667?

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seth|laptop:

with the new internal player, you can also choose this from the "M" menu

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stuarta:

flip_fl: which one do you have now?

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seth|laptop:

well my audio is digital, and it works for all modes of playback using the "passthrough" option under General settings

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flip_fl:

directhex|work, latest beta — 9xxx- I can pull that actual version if it matters

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directhex|work:

flip_fl, you used nvidia-installer?

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stuarta:

nvidia have a habit of fixing 2 things & breaking something else

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directhex|work:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/XvMC#Proprietary_Binary

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flip_fl:

directhex|work, 9625 nvidia installer

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LinuxMafia:

hi

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directhex|work:

flip_fl, following all discussion about prefixes from earlier, the nvidia installer is one of the worst offenders for overwriting core files for fun, in a slightly broken way. chances are your probelsm come from using nvidia-installer.

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LinuxMafia:

all :You probably should modify the Master Server settings in the setup program and set the proper IP address.

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flip_fl:

directhex|work, I had problems before running nvidia installer- was using binary driver from repos

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LinuxMafia:

how do i run master server?

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LinuxMafia:

i dont know if it is running or not

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directhex|work:

LinuxMafia, do you have a mythbackend process running?

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LinuxMafia:

directhex|work, let me chekc

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flip_fl:

directhex|work, I thought upgrading drivers _might_ fix XvMC problems

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LinuxMafia:

directhex|work, yes

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directhex|work:

LinuxMafia, that would be your mythtv master server process

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directhex|work:

flip_fl, and "glxinfo | grep direct" says "yes"?

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LinuxMafia:

directhex|work, so how do i know to ip for it

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LinuxMafia:

i put localhost in setup

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flip_fl:

directhex|work, yup – I have accel

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netw1z:

anyone seen this error: nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel.

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directhex|work:

netw1z, that's not an error, it's a warning

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LinuxMafia:

directhex|work, i have localhost as ip

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LinuxMafia:

directhex|work, and default ports

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directhex|work:

LinuxMafia, localhost isn't an IP, it's a hostname

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LinuxMafia:

directhex|work, even when it was 127.0.0.1

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LinuxMafia:

i got same error

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flip_fl:

directhex|work, ok – now I'm getting sudo mythtv-setup – error while loading shared libraries: libmythtv-0.20.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

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qu0zl:

netw1z, you can ignore that, it's basically telling you that the nvidia driver isn't open-source and so you're tainting your morally clean kernel :)

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stuarta:

flip_fl: where did you install to?? --prefix=???

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stuarta:

or did you not specify it?

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directhex|work:

LinuxMafia, try giving your machine a fixed IP address, ensure that the machine's name/IP is correct in /etc/hosts, restart mysql, then restart mythbackend

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LinuxMafia:

oh

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LinuxMafia:

i did not restart them

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flip_fl:

directhex|work, I didn't specify

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flip_fl:

was already 3/4 into compile

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stuarta:

flip_fl: then add /usr/local/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf

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LinuxMafia:

thanks alot i try it now

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stuarta:

and run ldconfig

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flip_fl:

stuarta, thanks- that worked

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Zider:

seth|laptop: woo, got sound now.. :D

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Zider:

seth|laptop: can soundtrack or subtitles be changed "on the fly"?

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Zider:

seth|laptop: I don't find any instructions in the wiki

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LinuxMafia:

directhex|work, thanks alot , just needed to restart

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LinuxMafia:

directhex|work, i want to whatch live tv , it is coaxial cable , i added new source

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LinuxMafia:

directhex|work, what else i should do?

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directhex|work:

LinuxMafia, RF analog? have you configured a valid listings source and filled your database?

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LinuxMafia:

directhex|work, i did not fill my database

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LinuxMafia:

in input it says

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LinuxMafia:

televison-->(none)

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dorel_1:

ok what do i do with the gdb.txt file, straight to the mailing list?

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stuarta:

(none) is exactly what you will get

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stuarta:

pastebin.ca for now.

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directhex|work:

LinuxMafia, so configure that tuner to actually do something

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directhex|work:

LinuxMafia, i.e. select it, hit enter, configure some actual channel sources

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LinuxMafia:

directhex|work, where i have to do that ? in mytht-setup

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directhex|work:

LinuxMafia, yes

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seth|laptop:

Zider, I know that subtitles can, not sure about the audio tracks though :-(

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dorel_1:

stuarta: search for seg fault, the crash happens at the start of the file: http://pastebin.ca/205141

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LinuxMafia:

directhex|work, in channel editor

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dorel_1:

stuarta: line 116

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LinuxMafia:

i can not see my mouse

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stuarta:

dorel_1: you haven't compiled it with --compile-type=debug so the backtrace is of no use.

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LinuxMafia:

is there any way to see my mouse in mythtvi-setup

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stuarta:

LinuxMafia: it doesn't use the mouse

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LinuxMafia:

i want to choose the source i can not

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stuarta:

enter?

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dorel_1:

stuarta: i was pretty sure i did :P

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directhex|work:

LinuxMafia, tab key to move between elements. arrow keys for choosing things. space bar, enter key, etc

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stuarta:

see all those "no symbols found"? means you didn't, or are running the wrong version

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directhex|work:

LinuxMafia, mythtv is for use on a teevee. not many people have a mouse on their sofa

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BULLE:

dorel_1: im pretty sure you didnt ( just look at the ammount of #

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BULLE:

(no debugging symbols found)

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dorel_1:

i see.

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dorel_1:

what i did is added "--compile-type=debug" into CONFIGURE_OPTS += in debian/rules

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LinuxMafia:

directhex|work, in channael editor , i want to select televison in Video Source , it set in ALL , but tab wont go on it

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dorel_1:

the config.log shows the compile-type=debug directive

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stuarta:

did you make it do a distclean? and remove any stamp-* files it creates?

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directhex|work:

LinuxMafia, http://users.bigpond.net.au/GympieElectronicS . . . 0Setup10.png ?

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dorel_1:

stuarta: i used dpkg-buildpackage -uc -b

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dorel_1:

stuarta: ill start all over and try again.

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LinuxMafia:

directhex|work, yes exactly

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stuarta:

try doing 'find /usr -name libmythtv*'

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directhex|work:

LinuxMafia, how precisely did you get to that screen?

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dorel_1:

stuarta: i got a couple of 0.19 and /usr/lib/libmythtv-0.20.so.0.20.0 /usr/lib/libmythtv-0.20.so.0 and /usr/lib/libmythtv-0.20.so.0.20

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LinuxMafia:

directhex|work, i went to mythtv-setp , channel editor

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stuarta:

dorel_1: what about /usr/local/lib/libmythtv* ?

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directhex|work:

LinuxMafia, so you already set up the video source?

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flip_fl:

directhex|work: hey- can you repost that link to the nvidia 7667 XvMC issue

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LinuxMafia:

directhex|work, no in input source

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LinuxMafia:

i have televison-->(televison)

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LinuxMafia:

but

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LinuxMafia:

in front of

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stuarta:

dorel_1: that tweak to /etc/ls.so.conf means you have libs in /usr/local/lib

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LinuxMafia:

starting channel it says : please add channels to this source

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stuarta:

but you also have them in /usr/lib, so you still have bits of both installed.

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directhex|work:

LinuxMafia, the setup sections are in order. capture cards – configure what type of cards you have. video source – configure how listings data should be received. input connections – bind capture card to video source. channel editor – get raw tuning data for an input connection

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dorel_1:

stuarta: hmmm, or a messy system :)

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stuarta:

LinuxMafia: and work your way from 1 -> 5, don't skip any....

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stuarta:

dorel_1: looks like it.

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dorel_1:

stuarta: in /usr/local/lib though i dont have libs for mythtv other than something i compiled by myself

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stuarta:

purge all the packages and redo the find. should have nothing

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LinuxMafia:

video source – configure how listings data should be received.

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dorel_1:

stuarta: i mean, a plugin i wrote.

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LinuxMafia:

i am not sure if i did that right

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dorel_1:

stuarta: not something from mythtv installs.

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directhex|work:

LinuxMafia, so go back in and do it right

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directhex|work:

LinuxMafia, in some setups, you may have to alt-tab to a terminal window to set up the channels, after you select next (otherwise mythsetup appears to hang at 50% of that step)

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stuarta:

dorel_1: hmmm, okay the deb will override --prefix to /usr, so you should only find you own lib there.

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LinuxMafia:

directhex|work, the thing is i connected my dish to tv-card

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dorel_1:

stuarta: ok im recompiling now after a make distclean and hope my debugging symbols are better now

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LinuxMafia:

directhex|work, i dont know i connected the cable to TV jack of my tv-card

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LinuxMafia:

it is not usa listin or stuff

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LinuxMafia:

it is a persian free to air dish

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directhex|work:

persian?

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LinuxMafia:

the channels are saved on reciver

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LinuxMafia:

yes

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flip_fl:

directhex|work: can you repost that link to the nvidia 7667 XvMC issue

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LinuxMafia:

directhex|work, all i have to do is connect the cable

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stuarta:

persian's a new one....

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LinuxMafia:

stuarta, it get some arabic , chinese , sport , and other channels

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LinuxMafia:

but you pay once for dish

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stuarta:

cool.

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LinuxMafia:

and you pay no more

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directhex|work:

LinuxMafia, all you have to do is connect the cable to do *what*? configure mythtv's video source?

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stuarta:

dvb-s?

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LinuxMafia:

no

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LinuxMafia:

whatching it

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directhex|work:

stuarta, analog i think. probably all the old astra feeds

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stuarta:

ahh...

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LinuxMafia:

directhex|work, so when i wanna add video source

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LinuxMafia:

i type the name televison

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LinuxMafia:

and under that

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LinuxMafia:

what i have to do

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directhex|work:

LinuxMafia, mythtv requires TV listings information. for analog sources, that data comes from the web. you need to pick a source for that data, e.g. http://users.bigpond.net.au/GympieElectronicS . . . 20Setup7.png

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directhex|work:

LinuxMafia, digital TV carries the tuner data inside the tv stream, so that step isn't needed

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LinuxMafia:

directhex|work, mine is set to use

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LinuxMafia:

US

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LinuxMafia:

directhex|work, in that picture

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flip_fl:

somebody earlier posted a link to issues with nvidia version !=7667 and XvMC (not sure of version else I'd google for it) I lost my connection a bit ago and thus the chat history — can somebody scroll up and repost the link

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directhex|work:

<directhex|work> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/XvMC#Proprietary_Binary

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directhex|work:

and it's been an issue since forever

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LinuxMafia:

directhex|work, oh it is scanning channels now

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directhex|work:

now, it's gohometime

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flip_fl:

directhex|work: thanks for reposting

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dorel_1:

damn it still doesnt have any debugging symbols defined

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dorel_1:

the hell with it im doing an entire system upgrade

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LinuxMafia:

how can i record

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LinuxMafia:

?

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stuarta:

dorel_1: it may well be stripping them. look for dh_strip in debian/rules

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dorel_1:

stuarta: too late, already ran apt-get upgrade :)

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dorel_1:

stuarta: but ill look for them just for the fun of it, hold on

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dorel_1:

stuarta: i found only two instances: dh_strip -pmythtv --tmpdir=debian/mythtv and dh_strip -a

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LinuxMafia:

i pressed ESC mythtv gone but the sound still on

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stuarta:

dorel_1: and apt-get upgrade isn't going to install your hand build packages...

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Anduin:

LinuxMafia: read the setting up sound section found through the Documentation link on mythtv.org

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dorel_1:

stuarta: i know

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stuarta:

good :)

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stuarta:

anyway. off home, back later

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seth|laptop:

anyone here using the logitech 880 harmony remote with their mythv?

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LinuxMafia:

Anduin, my sound is set to /dev/dsp

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Anduin:

LinuxMafia: That has nothing to do with it

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LinuxMafia:

Anduin, if i want quick record or not full screen what should i do ?

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LinuxMafia:

Anduin, is there any keybinding for those?

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Anduin:

LinuxMafia: 'R' in live TV will start recording, running in a window requires setting an option and restarting the frontend

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rutan:

hi, does anyone have an idea why dmesg says "dvb-ttpci: could not load firmware, file not found: dvb-ttpci-01.fw" Furter it says it should be in /lib/firmware or /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware, which I have (even double checked).

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brad_mssw:

seth|laptop: I have the 676 model harmony ... works fine ...

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LinuxMafia:

Anduin, so i have to watch it full screen all the time ?

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brad_mssw:

seth|laptop: I just had it emulate my hauppauge 150 MCE's remote (there was already an option in there for it, I didn't have to program it)

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LinuxMafia:

i am in the wiki page

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LinuxMafia:

what section i have to look

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Anduin:

LinuxMafia: Not the wiki, the main page, there is a Documentation link to the general howto, the section there tells you about setting up your mixer

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GreyFoxx:

LinuxMafia: Like he said, you can run it in a window, but there is nopt quick switch

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LinuxMafia:

GreyFoxx, how can i do hat

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GreyFoxx:

There are 2 ways, a: go into the frontend settings and specifically set the X/Y size then restart the frontend

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GreyFoxx:

b: when you run mythfrontend add a -geometry XxY to the commandline

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LinuxMafia:

thanks alot

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LinuxMafia:

i rather second one

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LinuxMafia:

thansk alot

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Zider:

who was it that noted dvd playback lagged when changing scenes?

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LinuxMafia:

thanks guys

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Zider:

mishehu: I noticed the dvd playback stutter too

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LinuxMafia:

Anduin, change the output sound device in mythfrontend->setup->Audio from /dev/dsp to ALSA:default

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LinuxMafia:

i have no Adudio in setup

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BULLE:

rutan: the location of firmware is distribution dependent, consult doc for your distro, and put the firmware in the appropriate place

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Anduin:

LinuxMafia: Your original complaint was sound after closing myth right? If so that is related to sound input rather than output.

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LinuxMafia:

Anduin, oh

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LinuxMafia:

Anduin, i can not stop it

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rutan:

BULLE: I use knoppmyth, could it really be the problem?

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BULLE:

rutan: no idea, to be honest, i have no clues whatsoever in regards to knoppmyth

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BULLE:

rutan: best bet is to check wher eknoppmyth expects the firmware

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seth|laptop:

brad, so you choose the MCEUSB2 lirc config file, or is there one specific to the harmony?

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teapot:

hi

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netw1z:

when I run irw i get connect: Connection refused

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netw1z:

does that mean my IR device isnt being recognized

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BULLE:

netw1z: dmesg should tell you if modules load properly

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BULLE:

netw1z: check permissions on your devices

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seth|laptop:

rutan, in knoppmyth, firmware files are stored in /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/

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Juski:

netw1z: it probably means the device hasn't been created and also that the lircd daemon isn't running

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netw1z:

lircd is running in the background.. but ill check perms on the device

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Juski:

also check it's the right device node

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Juski:

e.g. /dev/lirc0 rather than /dev/lirc/0 etc

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netw1z:

ive got /dev/lirc /dev/lirc1 /dev/lircd and /dev/lircm

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Juski:

which node is lircd trying to listen to?

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Juski:

tip.. look in the lircd init file

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netw1z:

checking now

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netw1z:

its listening to /dev/lirc

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Juski:

must be a permissions issue if lircd is listening to the correct node & not crashing

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Juski:

try cat /dev/lirc and press buttons on your remote. if you see loads of garbage characters onscreen, it's the right node ;)

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netw1z:

:)

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netw1z:

ill cat em

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Juski:

lircm is the lirc mouse, so it'll not be that

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netw1z:

i have lirc and lirc1

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Juski:

btw you'll only get garbage chars spurting out when you press buttons

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netw1z:

im root.. and when I cat /dev/lirc and /dev/lirc1 it says.. No Such Device

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Juski:

do an ls -al /dev |grep lirc & show me the output

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Juski:

and make sure lircd is still running

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scopeuk:

quick reminder use pastbin

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Juski:

pastebin for what.. 4 lines?

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Juski:

ls -al /dev |grep lirc won't output much

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LinuxMafia:

i can not record

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LinuxMafia:

when i press record

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LinuxMafia:

press r

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LinuxMafia:

it says record "unknown"

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Juski:

the EPG is empty.

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Juski:

get some programme guide data

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Juski:

"unknown" is the programme name

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Juski:

so it's recording a show called "unknown". It'll stop recording "unknown" on a 30 minute boundary or when you press R again

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LinuxMafia:

Juski, ?

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Juski:

yes, that was for you ^^^

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LinuxMafia:

Juski, how it record it

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Juski:

when you don't have programme guide data for a channel, all the programmes are called "Unknown"

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LinuxMafia:

and how can i fill EPG

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Juski:

this is like a Jeapoardy question.. "how do I find the docs & read them until I understand them?"

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LinuxMafia:

Juski, but even recording did not work

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LinuxMafia:

i want to record as mpg file

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Juski:

LinuxMafia: the EPG works with xmltv in most places in the world... apart from the USA which has zap2it

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Juski:

LinuxMafia: does tv even work?

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LinuxMafia:

Juski, yes

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Juski:

for it to work, recording must work. so stuff is being recorded

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Juski:

to see a recording you made in livetv mode by pressing R you'll need to change the group filter setting in the 'watch recordings' screen

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Juski:

and to do that you press M

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Juski:

which you'd know if you looked at the documentation

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LinuxMafia:

Juski, i can not record as mpg?

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Juski:

explain what you mean

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Juski:

it will not ask you for a filename to record the file as

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Juski:

that would be shit, and quite inconvenient

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Juski:

if you have a DVB, HDTV or PVR tuner card, mythtv records all files as mpg

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netw1z:

hi juski:

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netw1z:

crw-r--r-- 1 root root 61, 0 Jun 22 04:25 lirc

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netw1z:

crw-r--r-- 1 root root 61, 1 Oct 1 2005 lirc1

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netw1z:

srw-rw-rw- 1 root root 0 Oct 16 13:11 lircd

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netw1z:

prw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 30 2004 lircm

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Juski:

netw1z: looks okay to me

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netw1z:

those are my lirc devices

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LinuxMafia:

Juski, i have tv-card

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Juski:

netw1z: stop the lirc daemon & run it manually

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Juski:

LinuxMafia: What KIND of tv-card ?

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LinuxMafia:

Multimedia video controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder

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seth|laptop:

pvr150?

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Juski:

so just some software encoding PoS

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Juski:

mythtv will record as either MJPEG (in a nuppelvideo container) or MPEG4 depending on how you set up the recording profiles

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flip_fl:

ok- I'm back – I still have horrible playback of HDTV content — does anybody know if 'XvMCTex: Init failed' is 'normal'

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Juski:

if you want to record as mpeg2 with one of those kind of cards, don't use mythtv :-P

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LinuxMafia:

Juski, 2002_20061016130111.nu

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seth|laptop:

flip_fl, what kind of cpu, which distro, and which version of mythtv .19 or .20?

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netw1z:

Juski – lircd isnt running it seems

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netw1z:

i just ran it

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LinuxMafia:

i got .nu extension

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Juski:

flip_fl: usually means xvmc isn't working.. which is either because you have an ATI card or you've not installed the right drivers for your VGA card. here's a hint... xvmc won't work with the 'nv' driver

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flip_fl:

amd xp 1.9, edgy with nvidia beta 9xxx drivers- fresh compile of .20 trunk-fixes

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Juski:

flip_fl: was it compiled with --enable-xvmc ?

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flip_fl:

yup- config outputted that it was linking to nvidia Xvmc

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LinuxMafia:

sorry .nuv

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Juski:

LinuxMafia: .nuv files mean you have a software encoding card and you _cannot_ record directly to mpeg2 in mythtv with one of those

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seth|laptop:

maybe go back to the last stable release of nvidia drivers, 8774

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seth|laptop:

its possible that the 'beta' nvidia drivers, do not work with xvmc

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seth|laptop:

have you tries ffmpeg, or standard?

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seth|laptop:

for playback

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netw1z:

ok.. now im getting garage when I press the remote :) never so happy to see garbage

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flip_fl:

seth|laptop: I installed beta nvidia AFTER I couldn't get it working with edgy repo drivers (8774 I think)

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LinuxMafia:

Juski, thansk alot , and if it is unknown channel , i can not record more than 30 minute?

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Juski:

LinuxMafia: nope. so get some programme guide data

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LinuxMafia:

Juski, i have a persian dish

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seth|laptop:

flip, on my ubuntu laptop, I could not get the dapper nvidia repo drivers to work, I had to compile them using the nvidia-installer

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LinuxMafia:

Juski, where can i get that for usa

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Juski:

either that or schedule a recording manually then trim the recording by editing it when it's finished recording

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** seth|laptop never had much luck with pre-compiled nvidia stuff **

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Juski:

nvidia drivers NEVER come with source...

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LinuxMafia:

Juski, zap2it , i download it

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Juski:

not the "nvidia" drivers anyway

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Juski:

LinuxMafia: read the documentation & some howto guides. it's too much to explain in one go

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LinuxMafia:

Juski, and where to put it

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LinuxMafia:

Juski, what address

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LinuxMafia:

?

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Juski:

www.google.com

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LinuxMafia:

give me the url

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seth|laptop:

zap2it is at http://labs.zap2it.com

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LinuxMafia:

10x alot

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seth|laptop:

but read the docs first, Juski is right, too many little setails

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LinuxMafia:

thansk every one

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seth|laptop:

details

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Juski:

come on LinuxMafia do me a favour & plug your brain in !

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Juski:

(please)

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flip_fl:

along with XvMXTex:init failed I get 'NV17 Video Texture' X Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) 9 Major opcode 140 minir opcode 14

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LinuxMafia:

Juski, has nothing to do with brain , mine is apersian channel

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seth|laptop:

flip, before you installed the betas ( were these from a repo) did you apt-get -purge remove nvidia-glx and the lot?

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LinuxMafia:

so i dont know what program guid i have to dl

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flip_fl:

seth|laptop: yeah – removed restricted too

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Juski:

LinuxMafia: then it's not very likely that zap2it will have EPG data for your channel. You will have to schedule recordings manually

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seth|laptop:

flip, the betas, were these from a repo, or form nvidia?

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flip_fl:

seth|laptop: from NVIDIA download

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Juski:

flip_fl: google says: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.ph . . . 1&page=6

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seth|laptop:

flip, I would try the 8774 directly from nvidia. On my dapper/ubuntu install, I had no success using the repos. And you must have your kernel source installed, so it could just be as easy as ./NVIDIA-blah.blah.run

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flip_fl:

ok – I'll give it a try

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LinuxMafia:

Juski, i try to do that , thanks alot

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seth|laptop:

8774 works great for me with xvmc

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Juski:

LinuxMafia: great, but _please_ read the documentation. If you have any questions about things you find in there you do not understand, then ask here. But _read_ it!

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LinuxMafia:

Juski, it is alot of reading , but i try too

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scopeuk:

its alot of readignbecouse hteres alot of info

[17:32:22]

Juski:

I was reading about mythtv for weeks before I even tried to install it

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Juski:

<<< goody 2-shoes.. ha

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netw1z:

hey juski! thanks dude.. your few notes just helped me get the remote working

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netw1z:

:)

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LinuxMafia:

Juski, i saw what i was looking for in docs , thanks i am going to read it now

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netw1z:

thanks dude!

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scopeuk:

Juski i can BS

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Juski:

R to the T to the F to the M...

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netw1z:

i spent 2 weeks reading before I attempted an install

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scopeuk:

to the s to the t tothe f

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scopeuk:

to the u

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Juski:

lol

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scopeuk:

;-)

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Juski:

aww my rant about Steve Wright didn't make it into c***s corner on holymoly.co.uk :(

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scopeuk:

lol

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scopeuk:

write one about the leader of the corperately owned world

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scopeuk:

nobody likes him

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Juski:

nobody (in their right mind) should like Steve Wright either

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scopeuk:

lol

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Juski:

unless they're also living in a 1980s timewarp

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Juski:

haha.. "Nacho Libre translates as 'free of laughs'"

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scopeuk:

Juski well the ass less chaps are starting to chafe

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flip_fl:

hmmn-- mythbackend: symbol lookup error /usr/local/lib/libmythtv-0.20.so.0 undefined symbol: stat

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opello:

Juski: lol

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vballrican:

there's no weekly recording setting anymore??

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Juski:

eep whaaA?

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Juski:

I bloody well hope there is, or I'm not upgrading next year

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vballrican:

well, i just schedule some things, and there's no weeklly option... :(

[17:41:39]

** seth|laptop fires up mythweb > nrevous **

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Juski:

nah I can't serious believe that

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Juski:

*seriously

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vballrican:

also, can anyone tell me why if my backend is 127.0.0.1 my frontend connect but if i change the ip, it doesn't...?

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flip_fl:

I'm beginning to think maybe I should wipe the drive and start over

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vballrican:

well, weekly is not there as an option.. i'm running .20

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Juski:

vballrican: you'd have to change the MBE IP address in mythtv-setup, that's why

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Juski:

and restart it

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seth|laptop:

mine is there

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flip_fl:

i'm kinda confused about XvMC and how it relates to myth and compiling-- what if my backend machine has an ATI card and I want to compile with XvMC support for a front-end with nvidia

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vballrican:

seth: if you go into program guide and select to record a program using 'r', weekly is there?

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flip_fl:

is the xVmx compile flag just used for the front end

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vballrican:

juski: mythtv-setup or under setup in the frontend?

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Juski:

flip_fl: yup

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seth|laptop:

sorry I was using mythweb, vballrican, I am not at home right now. :-(

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vballrican:

ok

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Juski:

vballrican: did I say in the frontend or mythtv-setup ?

[17:49:06]

Juski:

vballrican: you'd have to change the MBE IP address in mythtv-setup, that's why

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vballrican:

mythtv-setup.. but i already changed it there and pointed the frontend to it... didn't work

[17:49:27]

teapot:

um

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Juski:

vballrican: did you restart the backend?

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vballrican:

hmm..good question...

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vballrican:

i'll do it againm

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teapot:

If I may interrupt...

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flip_fl:

is the XvMC just so it can pass the parameters to mplayer — or does myth DO something to the stream

[17:50:37]

teapot:

I am stumped by something *really* trivial

[17:50:57]

teapot:

I can't figure out how to get Svideo in to work

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teapot:

(on a PVR350)

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Juski:

flip_fl: mythtv doesn't use mplayer to play recordings

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Anduin:

flip_fl: mplayer has nothing to do with the frontend (unless you use MythVideo, and even then, only sometimes)

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seth|laptop:

teapot, in mythtv-setup, under input sources, select the svideo input instead of the tuner one

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flip_fl:

errr xine then? or does myth have its own layer

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flip_fl:

player

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Juski:

flip_fl: mythtv doesn't use mplayer to play recordings

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Juski:

or xine

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Anduin:

flip_fl: Its own

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Juski:

it has its own internal player

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Juski:

blimey

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teapot:

seth|laptop: I did that, but I don't know what frequency (channel) to set?

[17:52:21]

vballrican:

Juski: how do i restart the backend without rebooting?

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Juski:

vballrican: /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend restart

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seth|laptop:

teapot create a channel, called "1" or something not in use, and then associate svideo with that

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vballrican:

thanks

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Juski:

or /etc/init.d/mythbackend restart

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teapot:

seth|laptop: I did that too, but in the input selections, it wants a frequency

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teapot:

seth|laptop: "preset tuner to channel" it says

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Juski:

freqid doesn't matter.. just put any old number in there

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teapot:

seth|laptop: I put in 0 there.

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Juski:

the channel you set there has to _exist_

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seth|laptop:

yes

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vballrican:

hmm.. i changed the ip and restarted the backend, started frontend and it connected without me telling it where...

[17:55:00]

vballrican:

is it working or it didn't save changes?

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teapot:

seth|laptop: when I try to view theat channel I just get a black screen, but I know that there is a valid signal on that canle

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Juski:

vballrican: now try changing to the machine's real IP in mythfrontend

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vballrican:

also, i can connect on port 6543 but 6544 shows invalid page....

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seth|laptop:

teapot, are you sure you have the right input selected? In mythtv-setup

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vballrican:

juski: i connect using a hostname, that's why... :)

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teapot:

seth|laptop: I selected Svideo1

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seth|laptop:

is there an svideo0?

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seth|laptop:

my pvr150 only had 1 svideo input.

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teapot:

seth|laptop: nope

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fryfrog:

seth|laptop: my pvr250 only had one as well, but it shows svideo 0, 1 and i *think* 2

[17:59:08]

fryfrog:

RCA showed 1,2,3

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fryfrog:

and 3 was the one that was on the back of the card :/

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** teapot re-checks **

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seth|laptop:

hey fryfrog, hows that harmony remote treating you, was it fairly easy to get going?

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fryfrog:

The reason there is 1–3 (or what ever) is that the cards have an internal header allowing you to connect 1 or 2 more ports

[18:00:03]

fryfrog:

seth|laptop: it was quite easy and I like it so far

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** teapot confirmed **

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fryfrog:

seth|laptop: i need to explore its powers though

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seth|laptop:

ah, mine didn't have an internal header

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fryfrog:

right now, it simply emulates the big haupage 350 remote

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fryfrog:

lots of buttons

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seth|laptop:

excellent. I have been coaxing the wife into letting ne get one of those

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fryfrog:

but the remote has an LCD screen with *more!

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fryfrog:

so i'd like to find a way of putting it into a sort of "raw" mode, so I can map out *all* the buttons

[18:01:06]

fryfrog:

but i dunno how to do that

[18:01:40]

fryfrog:

ie, instead of *emulating* some other remote... just let it turn on all the buttons and send their default signal

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seth|laptop:

I am at a loss teapot. I used to have my dish receiver hooked up like that, but now I use the coax. But i can rememebr only having 1 choice, and it just worked when I pressed "12"

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seth|laptop:

er rather "1"

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seth|laptop:

well if it helps you tweak it at all, fryfrog, check this out. http://knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=Logitech_Harmony_Remote

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teapot:

aaaah, awesome. after all that the pesky cable wasn't pushed all the way in :)

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teapot:

seth|laptop: thanks a million – I was beginning to doubt that I understood anything :)

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seth|laptop:

hehe

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seth|laptop:

glad to har that teapot

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teapot:

;)

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seth|laptop:

rather s/har/here

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seth|laptop:

:-)

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Hoxzer:

I was wondering is it possible to setup one mythbox to run two frontends -> Two TV's, two ir-receivers,

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fryfrog:

sure, if you got the cpu power and 2 video cards prolly

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fryfrog:

it'd be a bit more work, i'm sure

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Hoxzer:

Yeah, but what with those two ir receivers?

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kormoc:

two ir's might be a little tricky

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Hoxzer:

kormoc: yeah, that what I was thinking

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fryfrog:

just run more than one copy of lirc

[18:21:34]

Hoxzer:

it would be much cheaper to buy wires, videocrad, ir-receiver

[18:21:38]

fryfrog:

each with its own config file

[18:21:50]

Zider:

is the "font size" settings in Appearence supposed to affect ALL text?

[18:21:51]

Hoxzer:

hmm

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fryfrog:

assuming you aren't doing HD?

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Hoxzer:

nope

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kormoc:

fryfrog, sure, but uhh, how do you get mythfrontend #1 to map to lircrc #1, and #2 to #2?

[18:22:19]

tonyG:

do you guys recommend knopmyth over setting up mythtv from scratch?

[18:22:35]

fryfrog:

that is kind of what i'm using

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fryfrog:

kormoc: surely there is a "mythfrontend" option?

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Zider:

tonyG: depends how good you are at fiddling with linux I suppose

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kormoc:

I don't recall seeing one

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fryfrog:

or perhaps you'd use "irexec" in some way (instead of "mythtv" in the lircrc?

[18:23:06]

** seth|laptop recommend knoppmyth **

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Hoxzer:

BUt is there a way to make this frontend to use this copy of lirc and another to use another copy of lirc

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kormoc:

irexec won't work, as it just goes on program window title

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fryfrog:

in the lircrc file, you put "mythtv" as the aplication

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kormoc:

yeah

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fryfrog:

so... somewhere it is getting that

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kormoc:

but you have two programs running as mythtv

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Hoxzer:

yeah

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fryfrog:

maybe you compile two mythtv's, change the source code to make one "mythtv1" and the other "mythtv2"

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kormoc:

you can't set program to mythtv-x-server-0 and mythtv-x-server-1

[18:23:56]

** seth|laptop is good with fiddling with linux, but liked the thought of the ease of install. and the whole 15 minutes to TV :-) **

[18:24:00]

kormoc:

that might work, but again, a little painful

[18:24:03]

fryfrog:

but searching for the "lirc" application name, i dunno how :)

[18:24:04]

tonyG:

this box will be for home use, i want it to look and feel like a set top box as much as possible with minimal intervention by myself, i feel knoppmyth will ensure this for me?

[18:24:04]

Hoxzer:

do frontends so How do I make sure other remote isn't affecting to wrong frontend

[18:24:27]

seth|laptop:

tonyG, what kind of cpu is in this box?

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fryfrog:

that said, why would you *want* to front ends on one box?

[18:24:39]

fryfrog:

doesn't that imply tvs being very close to eachother?

[18:24:41]

tonyG:

seth|laptop core 2 duo

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fryfrog:

making watching 2 at the same time a bit akward in ralation to hearing the sound?

[18:24:52]

kormoc:

fryfrog, sure, but think a dorm room, that's quite common

[18:25:10]

fryfrog:

krikey, *that close*?

[18:25:12]

tonyG:

man these htpc mini itx cases cost so much!

[18:25:17]

seth|laptop:

tonyG, you should be up and running in no time flat with that rig

[18:25:39]

kormoc:

fryfrog, most dorm rooms are 12 foot by 10 foot for 2 people, hard not to be that close :P

[18:25:42]

fryfrog:

I have a hard time talking on the phone and watching tv at the same time, I think my head would explode trying to watch one tv show while someone was watching another 6 feet away :)

[18:26:14]

fryfrog:

I've read articles about people putting 6 seperate X on one box (ie, at the library)

[18:26:20]

kormoc:

yeah

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kormoc:

that's not hard, as X has ways to map input from device X to server Y

[18:26:39]

fryfrog:

so while it might be *harder* to do it with myth and lirc, i imagine it'd be possible

[18:26:46]

kormoc:

lirc on the other hand does not

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fryfrog:

much simpler if you skip the remote and just use a pair of wireless keyboards

[18:27:04]

kormoc:

outside of recompiling the frontends.

[18:27:07]

fryfrog:

yeah, but something *inside* myth is letting it know that the name of the app

[18:27:11]

fryfrog:

yeah

[18:27:22]

fryfrog:

perhaps instead of making the change static

[18:27:31]

fryfrog:

perhaps you could forge ahead and add *that* as a variable

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fryfrog:

as a ./mythfrontend --lirc-name="mythtv"

[18:27:48]

fryfrog:

or "mythtv1" etc

[18:28:16]

fryfrog:

I think you can get PCI GF 5200's, no?

[18:28:22]

kormoc:

Sure can

[18:28:24]

fryfrog:

Imagine a dual card HD setup :)

[18:28:31]

kevin_:

after building my IR receiver, and plugging it in I tried to start mode2. I get error opening /dev/lirc, mode2 says "No such device"

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kormoc:

poor, poor computer

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kevin_:

did I build it wrong?

[18:28:38]

fryfrog:

Prolly want dual core or dual cpu for sure :)

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fryfrog:

kevin_: shouldn't that be /dev/lirc/0?

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fryfrog:

perhaps?

[18:29:01]

fryfrog:

oh

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kormoc:

kevin_, maybe, maybe not, but likely the guys in #lirc can help more

[18:29:07]

kevin_:

oh is there one? sweet

[18:29:10]

fryfrog:

ah, good point

[18:29:23]

kevin_:

ha. me and one other guy

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fryfrog:

doh

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** kormoc laughs **

[18:29:34]

kormoc:

ahh, too bad

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fryfrog:

kevin_: i had some problems, turned out i was being retarded

[18:29:50]

kevin_:

that may very well be my problem too

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fryfrog:

a) you need to have the serial drivers loaded

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fryfrog:

b) you have to use the "setserial" command on the port you want to use

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fryfrog:

c) you have to then load the lirc_serial modules too

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kormoc:

assuming you are using a serial lirc device

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fryfrog:

dmesg should report a variety of things

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fryfrog:

oh, yeah sorry

[18:30:31]

kevin_:

yeah, serial indeed

[18:30:32]

fryfrog:

but if you make your own, that is likely eh?

[18:30:43]

kormoc:

there's at least one plan for a USB one that I've seen

[18:30:46]

kormoc:

no idea if it works or not

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fryfrog:

you shut your mouth when you're talking to me! :)

[18:31:13]

fryfrog:

For the price of the parts for *one* ir serial reciever from radio shack...

[18:31:20]

fryfrog:

i ordered 5x from that ummm

[18:31:23]

fryfrog:

datadir.com?

[18:31:27]

fryfrog:

damn, i forgot the site name

[18:31:28]

kevin_:

okay fryfrog. i'm going to need my hand held through those directions....

[18:31:40]

kevin_:

all dmesg told me was lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, at major 61

[18:31:49]

kevin_:

no idea when that is from

[18:31:51]

fryfrog:

sec, rest room :p

[18:31:56]

kevin_:

haha cool

[18:33:25]

kevin_:

lol /var/log/messages didn't tell me anything useful, but someone in austrailia is trying to ssh to my box and is not guessing my passwords. which is nice

[18:33:46]

kevin_:

might turn port forwarding off for now

[18:34:38]

kevin_:

oh wait, no, china

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fryfrog:

kevin_: okay, to start with i would rmmod all the lirc and serial drivers. For me that was 8250_pnp, 8250 and serial_core (i think)

[18:36:53]

fryfrog:

lirc was "lirc_dev" and "lirc_serial"

[18:36:56]

Juski:

time I was on my way to the train station...

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fryfrog:

then i'd do a "dmesg -c" and clear dmesg (also check it all unloaded cleanly)

[18:37:40]

kevin_:

ohhhhhh didn't know i could manually clear dmesg

[18:38:40]

kevin_:

fryfrog where are the lirc and serial drivers?

[18:39:08]

fryfrog:

try "modinfo lirc_serial" or "modinfo lirc_dev"?

[18:39:15]

fryfrog:

they are modules, so theys hould be in you rkernel's module dir

[18:39:23]

fryfrog:

like "/lib/modules/2.6.18-" or what ever

[18:40:37]

fryfrog:

i use gentoo, what is your distro?

[18:40:41]

kevin_:

mandriva

[18:40:45]

fryfrog:

sucker :p

[18:40:47]

kevin_:

i have a directorY /lib/modules/2.6.11–12mdk/kernel/drivers

[18:40:49]

kevin_:

heh

[18:41:04]

kevin_:

it has serial, but no lirc directory. did lirc not install correctly then?

[18:41:18]

fryfrog:

well, did you *install* lirc?

[18:41:26]

fryfrog:

and does "modinfo lirc_serial" say anything?

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kevin_:

no idea what i did.... hang on. let me find the guide i followed haha

[18:41:37]

fryfrog:

in gentoo, I need to specify *which* lirc module to compile

[18:41:47]

fryfrog:

so maybe mandriva has a "lirc-serial" rpm?

[18:42:09]

kevin_:

no idea. i kinda doubt it

[18:42:46]

kevin_:

i'm not a big fan of the documentation on the lirc web site. too many "you might want to's"

[18:43:21]

kevin_:

i'm pretty sure i ran the config script, did a make, then a make install

[18:43:38]

fryfrog:

oh, you installed lirc from source?

[18:43:44]

kevin_:

ya

[18:44:02]

fryfrog:

you missed a ./configure option then :)

[18:44:12]

fryfrog:

try "./configure" and search for some shit about "serial"

[18:44:19]

fryfrog:

perhaps try "|grep -i "serial"

[18:44:29]

fryfrog:

er, with the quotes around "serial" only :)

[18:44:34]

kevin_:

does lirc come as an rpm for your distro?

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** kormoc laughs **

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fryfrog:

i'm not using one of those suck ass rpm based distros

[18:45:03]

fryfrog:

i compile from source with the --omgoptimized flag :)

[18:45:06]

kevin_:

oooohhh. gentoo doesn't use rpms?

[18:45:09]

kevin_:

haha

[18:45:18]

kevin_:

i guess that's a whole other discussion

[18:45:21]

Hoxzer:

:D

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fryfrog:

oops, i think it is --zomg-optomized

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fryfrog:

:)

[18:45:50]

fryfrog:

are you sure there is no rpm from mandriva?

[18:45:52]

kevin_:

alright, so i'll try to do this from the top. configure again and do it over

[18:45:54]

Zider:

fryfrog: -funroll-loops :D

[18:45:56]

netw1z:

i have a nvidia s-video out onto my Sony Wega TV and I can barely read the thing. What can I do to make it more legible?

[18:45:57]

liran:

i think im gonna re-install everything from scratch, after an entire system upgrade mythtv is still crashing

[18:46:08]

teapot_:

erm..

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teapot_:

why would the signal coming in on Svideo be without colour ?

[18:46:14]

fryfrog:

as much as i like compiling from source, i'm strongly in favor of using *your* distros package system so it is easier to keep up-to-date and such

[18:46:18]

kevin_:

probably, but i'm on an old version of it so i'm not sure it would work

[18:46:33]

kevin_:

i guess it couldn't hurt to try it, right?

[18:46:34]

liran:

aiming at stability, what is recommended? 0.19, 0.20...?

[18:46:40]

fryfrog:

netw1z: I think there are some nvidia xorg/x11 options related to "flicker"

[18:46:50]

fryfrog:

try reading the nvidia help txt that comes with the drivers

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fryfrog:

kevin_: why are you using an old version of fedora?

[18:47:14]

fryfrog:

liran: i'm running 0.20-fixes qutie happily

[18:47:19]

kevin_:

old version of mandriva...

[18:47:29]

fryfrog:

er, sorry, my bad :)

[18:47:43]

liran:

fryfrog: im running 0.20–0.2 debian unstable packages and its crashing

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kevin_:

just haven't upgraded. i'd like to put it on some newer hardware. i just get this feeling that i've worked so hard on myth, nuv, etc

[18:47:53]

fryfrog:

liran: you could start with 0.20-fixes, and if you don't like it... move to .19?

[18:48:07]

liran:

fryfrog: i think it might be my hardware. what are you running on?

[18:48:07]

fryfrog:

liran: It'd probably be worth using the fixes branch, if the deb packages don't

[18:48:17]

fryfrog:

well, first i'm running gentoo :)

[18:48:19]

kevin_:

ndiswrapper too. that was fun

[18:48:42]

liran:

fryfrog: i doubt the crash is related to the distribution itself.

[18:48:56]

liran:

fryfrog: im running on an amd sempron 3100+ and an asus board

[18:49:41]

kevin_:

my package utility says i already have lirc installed

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kevin_:

*mutter*

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kevin_:

this might be something i didn't do..... after running configuration it told me "You will have to use the lirc_serial kernel module."

[19:00:22]

kevin_:

the documentation says nothing about how to do that

[19:01:03]

zoibee:

if you have loaded the right modules, it should work

[19:02:09]

kevin_:

where do i learn more about loading modules?

[19:02:33]

zoibee:

man modprobe

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fryfrog:

but my hardware is a dual xeon and amd64

[19:03:08]

kevin_:

thanks

[19:03:13]

fryfrog:

sorry, my internet floppy came out

[19:03:16]

simcop2387:

hmm anyone else got mythtv 0.20 working with ivtv 0.8.0? (i'm about to go grab the fixes branch, i haven't had the chance yet)

[19:03:40]

fryfrog:

kevin_: what does "modinfo lirc_serial" say?

[19:03:56]

fryfrog:

I'm using mythtv 0.20-fixes with lirc 0.8.0

[19:04:39]

Mattwj2005:

playback and recording with HDTV 1080i on a Celeron 1.2 Ghz ;)

[19:05:04]

simcop2387:

fryfrog: ivtv, not lirc :)

[19:05:13]

fryfrog:

oops

[19:05:18]

Mattwj2005:

I can't believe it works

[19:05:19]

fryfrog:

yeah, s/lirc/ivtv

[19:05:21]

kevin_:

... waiting for pastebin

[19:05:28]

fryfrog:

Mattwj2005: you lie, really?

[19:05:35]

Mattwj2005:

no lie

[19:05:38]

Mattwj2005:

it works :)

[19:05:40]

fryfrog:

what about 720p?

[19:05:46]

Mattwj2005:

that works as well

[19:05:51]

fryfrog:

1080i is lame, 720p is teh win

[19:05:56]

fryfrog:

xvmc?

[19:06:07]

simcop2387:

fryfrog: ok good, i figured it was just me not having grabbed fixes yet, right now it complains about bad ioctls when recordings start

[19:06:07]

Mattwj2005:

my Nvidia Geforce FX 5200 helps out with xvmc ;)

[19:06:16]

simcop2387:

and then i get 0 byte recordings :)

[19:06:59]

kevin_:

fryfrog http://pastebin.ca/205354

[19:07:08]

fryfrog:

simcop2387: you are using 0.8.0 with 2.6.18, right?

[19:07:25]

fryfrog:

kevin_: so you have the serial module :p

[19:07:39]

fryfrog:

so, did you rmmod 8250_pnp 8250 serial_core lirc_serial lirc_dev?

[19:07:41]

kevin_:

okay, so that means i can go ahead and make and make install right?

[19:07:49]

kevin_:

i didn't yet, no

[19:08:01]

fryfrog:

sounds like its already *there*, you haven't done make / make install of lirc?

[19:08:12]

kevin_:

i already did. i just thought i'd do it again. lol

[19:08:15]

kevin_:

for good measure

[19:08:37]

fryfrog:

ah, don't bother

[19:08:39]

fryfrog:

its all there

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kevin_:

okay

[19:08:44]

fryfrog:

okay, dmesg -c

[19:08:50]

fryfrog:

check and make sure all those modules unloaded

[19:09:00]

kevin_:

everything is out of dmesg

[19:09:01]

fryfrog:

(either by noting the output of dmesg or "lsmod" and using the eyeballs

[19:09:17]

fryfrog:

okay, now "modprobe 8250_pnp" and dmesg

[19:09:23]

fryfrog:

make sure it saw your serial ports and all

[19:09:34]

kevin_:

lol FATAL: Module 8250_pnp not found.

[19:09:36]

fryfrog:

that one modprobe should load up 8250, 8250_pnp and serial_core

[19:09:39]

fryfrog:

oh

[19:09:43]

fryfrog:

did you compile your own kernel?

[19:09:55]

kevin_:

i may have at one point. i'm not sure lol

[19:09:57]

fryfrog:

try "modinfo 8250" or "modinfo serial_core"?

[19:10:21]

simcop2387:

fryfrog: yea

[19:10:23]

kevin_:

couldn't find either module

[19:10:28]

simcop2387:

fryfrog: mplayer works fine so i know its mythtv :)

[19:10:34]

fryfrog:

simcop2387: ah

[19:10:43]

fryfrog:

simcop2387: guess its off to the 0.20 fixes svn branch

[19:10:57]

fryfrog:

kevin_: erm

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kevin_:

laff

[19:11:14]

fryfrog:

kevin_: if you compiled your own kernel, make sure they are selected as something to be built as modules?

[19:11:38]

kevin_:

that's way over my head. i think i might give up on this dream of having a remote

[19:11:45]

fryfrog:

its not :)

[19:11:46]

kevin_:

i should just get an extra long cable for my keyboard

[19:11:48]

kevin_:

lol

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fryfrog:

*if* you compiled your own kernel, why would you?

[19:12:02]

fryfrog:

the "default" kernel certainly had those modules

[19:12:06]

kevin_:

probably because someone like you told me to =P

[19:12:19]

kevin_:

to work around some other dumb problem

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fryfrog:

sounds like what you *need* to do is start over with something like Fedora Core 5 which has some great full walk through guides written for it

[19:12:34]

fryfrog:

(if you like mandriva)

[19:12:36]

kevin_:

maybe i should

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seth|laptop:

or switch to knoppmyth, hehe

[19:12:41]

fryfrog:

Perhaps Ubunto too

[19:12:47]

kevin_:

is lirc easy to get up and running in knoppmyth?

[19:12:58]

fryfrog:

My favorite is Gentoo, but if you thought this was hard you'd cry like a little girl over gentoo :)

[19:13:05]

kevin_:

lol

[19:13:15]

seth|laptop:

in knoppmyth, it just works

[19:13:22]

Zider:

fryfrog: so would the gentoo supporters ;)

[19:13:28]

kevin_:

no way, nothing EVER works for me. i'll find a way

[19:13:30]

seth|laptop:

out of the box, it asks you what remote you have, and then it installs it

[19:13:54]

seth|laptop:

same with irblaster

[19:14:01]

fryfrog:

Zider: so true!

[19:14:04]

seth|laptop:

actually its the very next question after the install

[19:14:13]

fryfrog:

wow

[19:14:14]

kevin_:

what about nuvexport. does that work out of the box?

[19:14:20]

fryfrog:

sounds like *i* should give knoppmyth a try

[19:14:58]

fryfrog:

is knopp current? ivtv, lirc, kernel, myth?

[19:15:15]

seth|laptop:

i tell you what, I built mythtv on gentoo, fc4, ubuntu hoary, and dapper, and when I was turned onto knoppmyth, the world changed

[19:15:26]

** seth|laptop <------- spoiled now **

[19:15:36]

kevin_:

laff

[19:15:42]

kevin_:

nuvexport works?

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scopeuk:

fryfrog knoop is current in all but myth atm it on .19 fixes althoug hthe next release is going to be .20

[19:15:55]

scopeuk:

likely to be some time next month

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fryfrog:

ah

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seth|laptop:

not to mention, out of all the 'prebuilt' rpm and debian packages, this was the only one ready to compile with or with out distcc, from the install, o building custom software, is ready to happen

[19:16:48]

scopeuk:

then its gonan be a long wait becouse there making some huge change to it before the r6 release

[19:16:49]

seth|laptop:

nuvexport, works with r5c7, not sure about rd51, heard there were transcoding issues.

[19:17:17]

seth|laptop:

right now they are testing r5d16, which already has .20 installed

[19:17:40]

kevin_:

hmm.... what about video out on my video card? that work out of the box?

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seth|laptop:

but they are having issues with amd64 cpus, that started at r5d1, which why I run r5c7, and built myth .20 form source

[19:18:03]

seth|laptop:

yes, you boot teh install cd with TV

[19:18:04]

tuck3r:

what is the proper way to start mythfrontend on boot? i can't seem to find out how to do it

[19:18:12]

seth|laptop:

you just type TV and it works from the get go

[19:18:20]

kevin_:

heh nice

[19:18:45]

kevin_:

maybe i'll give that a try on a backup hard drive

[19:19:12]

kevin_:

oh... ahh......... dvd copying? that work?

[19:19:42]

fryfrog:

tuck3r: there are tons of ways

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fryfrog:

tuck3r: for instance, a cron job

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fryfrog:

tuck3r: on my system gdm is setup to auto-login as the mythtv user

[19:20:01]

seth|laptop:

if you mean dvd importing, yes

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fryfrog:

my mythtv user's crontab has a file that checks to see if mythfrontend is running, and if not it starts it (runs every minute)

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kevin_:

seth|laptop it just imports the dvd? doesn't transcode/compress it?

[19:21:59]

tuck3r:

fryfrog: interesting, i see this is going to be harder than a init script

[19:22:29]

fryfrog:

tuck3r: there are tons of ways

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fryfrog:

you could also have your default run level simply *start* an X session owned by mythtv

[19:23:13]

seth|laptop:

kevin, yes, import, and transcode, does it all

[19:23:16]

fryfrog:

I like the gdm + auto-login cause you can ctrl-alt-backspace and x will respawn and a few seconds later, log in again

[19:23:35]

** seth|laptop agrees, auto-login is nice **

[19:23:38]

kevin_:

cool. so i could just use k3b to burn it after that?

[19:24:21]

Zider:

I use cron to launch X

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scopeuk:

i let knopmythdo it as it pleases

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seth|laptop:

i would guess, there is a .iso import option, but I do not make copies, just archive them, to save me from getting up and switching the dvd's

[19:25:19]

seth|laptop:

so I really wouldn't know for sure. They lock you up here if you do that :-)

[19:25:54]

Zider:

seth|laptop: *locks up*

[19:26:12]

Zider:

*sells key on eBay*

[19:26:40]

scopeuk:

Zider get with the tiems you have the shark destroy it wit hthe frikkin lazer beams

[19:26:43]

seth|laptop:

hehe

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Zider:

scopeuk: shark?

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kevin_:

haha

[19:27:08]

scopeuk:

bad austin powers reference

[19:27:12]

kevin_:

lol

[19:27:13]

kevin_:

i got it

[19:27:19]

kevin_:

seth|laptop you in the us?

[19:27:22]

scopeuk:

hah kinda gave it awak kevin

[19:27:24]

Zider:

haven't seen austin powers

[19:27:24]

** seth|laptop Austin Powers.... Doctor Evil...... is shocked **

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seth|laptop:

yes good old US of A

[19:27:42]

kevin_:

throw me a frickin bone here..... all i want is some freakin sharks with some freakin lasers on their heads

[19:27:49]

seth|laptop:

hehe

[19:28:17]

kevin_:

yeah me too. someone i know got a letter from paramount pictures b/c she was sharing forrest gump on a DC++ hub

[19:28:31]

tuck3r:

seth|laptop: "I'm a lawyer representing the MPAA, please bend over"

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kevin_:

haha

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Zider:

I got a letter once.. for sharing win98-iso on dc.. but nothing about the 400GB movies, music and games I also shared ;)

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seth|laptop:

tuck3r , LOL

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kevin_:

haha

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kevin_:

okay, best buy has 120g seagate drives on sale for $50. I think i'll get one, setup knoppmyth and try to get a 250+ on black friday

[19:34:25]

kevin_:

and use both

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tuck3r:

black friday is fun!

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seth|laptop:

if you do that kevin, use the knoppmyth 'create_lvm.sh' script, so all you have to do to add the second drive is type oone command.

[19:37:53]

seth|laptop:

http://knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=LvmHowTo

[19:38:16]

seth|laptop:

read that and you'll see what I mean by knoppmyth is easy.

[19:38:19]

seth|laptop:

:-)

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** seth|laptop gets down off of his knoppmyth soapbox **

[19:39:18]

kevin_:

haha

[19:39:46]

kevin_:

oh, what about this....... use my audigy sound card to have 5.1 surround output to my stereo receiver?

[19:39:49]

** scopeuk prods seth|laptop back and hands him a megaphone **

[19:41:02]

seth|laptop:

kevin, yes, digital audio was easy as well. I have on board digital, and all I had to do was enable the checks in mythfrontend setup for ac3 and dts passthrough, run alsamixer to enable the output, and I had 5.1

[19:41:29]

seth|laptop:

via spidf

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zoibee:

seth|laptop: same as i have done, but i only got audio in mythvideo...

[19:43:35]

zoibee:

if mplayer gets it, why cant tv and music...

[19:44:13]

kevin_:

heh, i might have to look you up for that seth

[19:44:31]

seth|laptop:

zoibee, what version of mythtv

[19:44:36]

netw1z:

how many different game emulators can you get going with MythTV?

[19:44:40]

zoibee:

0.20

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GreyFoxx:

netw1z: as many as you want

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seth|laptop:

I run .20, and have both the video, and DVD players set to "Internal" and I have dolby digital on all parts

[19:45:35]

GreyFoxx:

You tell myth the path to the roms(optionally the file extensions), the name of the emulator and the command to run

[19:45:41]

seth|laptop:

tv, music, dvd, video, world of warcraft

[19:46:22]

seth|laptop:

well prologic, if the source is in stereonly, btu you get what I mean :-p

[19:46:35]

zoibee:

i did :P

[19:47:02]

seth|laptop:

and you have "passthrough" checks for ac3 and dts?

[19:47:15]

zoibee:

yes

[19:47:31]

kevin_:

whats ac3 and dts?

[19:47:49]

seth|laptop:

5.1, 6.1, and 7.1 surround

[19:48:51]

seth|laptop:

zoibee, have you tried changing the default sound device in myth-front-setup to something like /dev/adsp, .vs /dev/dsp ?

[19:49:37]

** seth|laptop thought the Internal player was based on mplayer, I could be wrong though **

[19:49:43]

netw1z:

anyone using xmess?

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GreyFoxx:

seth|laptop: You are wrong

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Delemas:

Anyone aware of a way to disable menu fade transitions when using opengl as the paint engine in mythfronted?

[19:50:29]

zoibee:

seth|laptop: yes, ive tried almost everything

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Delemas:

mythfrontend I mean...

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seth|laptop:

so the internal is something different, good to know.

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GreyFoxx:

Delemas: If you use opengl as the paint engine I don't think you can turn that off at the present time

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jams:

Delemas- you cannot

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Delemas:

GreyFoxx: ah ok thanks.

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GreyFoxx:

seth|laptop: the internal player is it's own built in player, nto based on anything else

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seth|laptop:

zoibee, you using knoppmyth?

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jams:

Delemas- main reason I still use QT as the painter

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netw1z:

is there a definitive list somewhere of all the emulators out there for linux?

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netw1z:

game emulators?

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zoibee:

seth|laptop: yes :P

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Delemas:

k then. Back to using qt :)

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GreyFoxx:

netw1z: I don't think so. closest thing would be zophar.net and maybe just the list on the mythgame portion of the wiki

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seth|laptop:

zoibee, what alsa drivers are you using, I updated to 1.0.13

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zoibee:

2 sec

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zoibee:

1.0.8

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zoibee:

1.0.12 ..

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seth|laptop:

I would trry to upgrade that first. what audio chipset?

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zoibee:

but it worked yesterday before i reinstalled

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seth|laptop:

ah

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Delemas:

Recently mythvideo has started showing empty subdirectories under the videoroot even if all the files under said subdirectory are of a high parental level. Anyone know how to revert to old behaviour?

[19:53:45]

zoibee:

intel ich5 (iec958)

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tuck3r:

humm, should I see the plugins on mythfrontend after installing mythplugins?

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GreyFoxx:

tuck3r: Assuming you restarted mythfrontend after installing them

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seth|laptop:

in alsamixer, you have it enabled, and the volume all the way down to "0" (zero)

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tuck3r:

GreyFoxx: did yet i still see nothing...

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zoibee:

to zero?

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seth|laptop:

yes

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zoibee:

should it be?

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seth|laptop:

yes

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seth|laptop:

that I found in the forums

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GreyFoxx:

Did you install both mythtv and mythplugins from the same set of packages or source ?

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tuck3r:

yep, svn-.20 fixes

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GreyFoxx:

check to make sure you don't have a binary install on there too and maybe you are executing the binary package version of mythfrontend

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seth|laptop:

brb, datacenter alarm

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tuck3r:

GreyFoxx: i just installed myth never touched binarys

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zoibee:

seth|laptop: i had it on 100% on my last install, and if i turned it to 75% it was muted

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GreyFoxx:

tuck3r: which is the output of "which mythfrontend"

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GreyFoxx:

from a commandline/xterm

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seth|laptop:

zoibee, when you uncheck the ac3/dts in myth-front-setup, do you get sound?

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seth|laptop:

and are you hooked up to an A/V reciever, something tht would indicate analog/digital signal?

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tuck3r:

GreyFoxx: i think i figured it out

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Eskas:

have anyone seen "Failed to run tv_find_grabbers" when using mythtv-setup? I can't even choose xmltv when creating video sources.

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seth|laptop:

is there a trick to getting the ProjectGreyham theme to work with opengl painter?

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Zider:

shouldn't need any "trick"

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seth|laptop:

well, when I change menu levels, mine goes blank, no text

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seth|laptop:

yet something like myxer works fine

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vballrican:

how do i set permissions to a dir to be 777? wrx

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jduggan:

chmod 777 directoryname/

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vballrican:

thx

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vballrican:

uh.. how do i change permission for 'mythtv' user to have 777 right?

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seth|laptop:

what are you changing permissions of?

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vballrican:

a few dirs from an old hd

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kormoc:

vballrican, 777 on a directory is for everyone

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vballrican:

they're all set to 501 and i can't access them

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seth|laptop:

chown -R mythtv <directory name here>

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word:

Anyone here have any luck controlling their directv box through a serial port? i'm having some trouble with the directv.pl script and am getting this error when using a command – (in cleanup) Can't call method "setcflag" on an undefined value

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vballrican:

thx

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seth|laptop:

sorry, I use a blaster

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seth|laptop:

np vball

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dave:

Hi everybody, does anybody have a working mythlink.sh / pretty script for myth 0.20

[20:31:43]

dave:

?

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seth|laptop:

I like how the new mythweb shows the slave drives storage usage now, myth just keeps getting better :-)

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seth|laptop:

mine works

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seth|laptop:

did you need mythlink, or mythrename?

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fryfrog:

rar!

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fryfrog:

dave: use "mythrename.pl --link"

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fryfrog:

it is in the contrib dir, make sure you have the needed perl modules

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dave:

sorry, i mean the pretty script that creates the symlinks

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fryfrog:

thats it

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dave:

when did it stop being a shell script?

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vballrican:

ok, i installed mythtv using the mythtv-suite which probably installs most things... how do i access mythweb?

[20:43:03]

dave:

what happens if you go to http://localhost

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dave:

?

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fryfrog:

uh, what are you talkinga bout?

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fryfrog:

.pl means its a perl script

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fryfrog:

which... is kind of a shell script?

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fryfrog:

and http://localhost/ has nothing to do with symlinks, that would be mythweb

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dave:

yes, but it used to be a shell script, sh mythlink.sh

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fryfrog:

ah, i guess someone made it better with a perl script

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dave:

i was answering vballrican

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fryfrog:

mythrename.pl can also *really* rename the files (it updates the db too)

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fryfrog:

instead of just making symlinks

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vballrican:

dave: in the mythtv box or from my other one?

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dave:

the mythbox

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seth|laptop:

my mythlink.sh calls the perl script, mythrename.pl

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dave:

i need to catch up with times eh?

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fryfrog:

yeah, welcome to 2006 :)

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vballrican:

could not connect to host localhost

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fryfrog:

vballrican: make sure you install mythweb, make sure you have a working *web server*

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fryfrog:

mythweb is just a bunch of php web pages

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vballrican:

fryfrog: they don't get installed with mythtv-suite?

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fryfrog:

i dunno what the hell you are even talking about :)

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vballrican:

fry: lol.. ok, i installed mythtv using the yum mythtv-suite, so it installed the whole mythtv suite... now, how do i get mythweb working...it installed and i see the configuration page in mythtv setup...

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tuck3r:

anybody wiling to post their xorg.conf that works with nvidia tv-out?

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vballrican:

hmm... FC5 doesn't have a .rpm installer?

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stuarta:

rpm?

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Delemas:

It probably has yum

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fryfrog:

vballrican: can you use yum to see if it installed apache, php, mythweb, etc?

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vballrican:

fry, how do i do that? all i have used yum for is to install

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** vballrican loves webmin :) **

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word:

anyone know how to check that a usb -> serial converter is working?

[21:08:31]

fryfrog:

vballrican: sorry, i'm a gentoo bastard

[21:08:40]

word:

trying to control my satellite box and i think that's the problem..

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fryfrog:

word: plug it into a serial... something?

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word:

heh good point...now to find something serial...

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vballrican:

anyone know about Samba?

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fryfrog:

got all the drivers loaded up and all?

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vballrican:

yeah..it's up and running, i have a couple of shares and i can see the samba server from my winders machine..but... when i try to connect it asks for login/pwd...

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word:

yah samba is tricky with it's security and how to configure it :-/

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word:

you'll have to fiddle with the settings in /etc/samba/smb.conf just make sure you make a backup firts

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word:

first8

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word:

first****

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vballrican:

i already checked it... :(

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tuck3r:

the standard TV resultion is 320x200?

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fryfrog:

christ!

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fryfrog:

ummm

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fryfrog:

i think that most tvs will do 640x480 over rca

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fryfrog:

*maybe* 800x600 on rca

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fryfrog:

svidia usually can take 800x600 or 1024x768

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fryfrog:

(or 640x480)

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netw1z:

what about s-video

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tuck3r:

well I got it doing 1024x768... it looks really small :P

[21:23:50]

netw1z:

i cant read my screen.. im on a sony wega

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netw1z:

im trying to config it now to be 800x600 or something

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tuck3r:

hummm, that worked but it now cuts off most of the screen

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netw1z:

you gotta run nvidia-settings

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netw1z:

and turn down the overscan i guess

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tuck3r:

mythfrontend looks good but you can see lines going up and down the screen

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** NAiL is having problems getting the backend to start... **

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NAiL:

I'm getting this error:

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NAiL:

Starting MythTV server: mythbackendSession management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed

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netw1z:

tucker? your refresh rate?

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kormoc:

NAiL, that's not a critical error, and can be ignored

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LabMonkey:

kinda off-topic, but does anyone know how to get divx4 encoding to work?

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LabMonkey:

with mencoder i mean

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tuck3r:

netw1z: thats what I'm thinking, but I don't know the refresh rate for this thing

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netw1z:

a tv or monitor

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kormoc:

LabMonkey, sure, compile in mpeg-4 support

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tuck3r:

netw1z: CRT tv

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kenguru:

morning.

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netw1z:

30 – 50 hsync i think

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Juski:

could someone please do me a favour & tell me if this is factually correct? I've done my best.. http://www.juski.co.uk/comparisontable.png

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tuck3r:

HorizSync 30–50 is what i have in my Monitor section

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kenguru:

i'm having problems with tuning the channels with mythtv 0.20 and terratec cinergy 1200 dvb-c, nags about network id not correct.

[21:44:30]

kenguru:

"found channel but doesn't match existing tsid"

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Juski:

kenguru: sounds like an issue for the developers. Does Kaffeine work okay? or czap ?

[21:47:31]

kenguru:

i found similar problem with google about hour ago, so developers should know that. I haven't tried kaffeine all i know is simple scan command finds channels okay but importing those to the mythconverg database doesn't work.

[21:47:43]

Juski:

wow. it's true what people say about #knoppmyth being quiet

[21:48:19]

Juski:

kenguru: ah. if you import a channels.conf file you will not get any network ids inserted into the database. .conf files don't have that info in them

[21:48:23]

kenguru:

http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/224531 that's the url

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netw1z:

juski.. that looks right

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Juski:

what's wrong with just scanning? 0.20 is much improved over 0.19 with dvb tuners :)

[21:49:06]

kenguru:

Juski, i deleted the database, recreated it and tried just scanning but that doesn't work.

[21:49:14]

tuck3r:

ok, 640x480 is 480i but the text in mythfrontend still looks way to small, like on the weather page

[21:49:19]

Juski:

cheers netw1z :)

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netw1z:

how did u force 640x480?

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netw1z:

you can change font size in APPEARENCE in setup in mythTV

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tuck3r:

mode like

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kormoc:

Juski, GBPVR has cost as Hardware where as myth and other free ones has cost as Hardware only

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Juski:

kenguru: then mail the -dev mailing list describing the problem.. it might be an issue that needs to be addressed

[21:50:19]

Juski:

kormoc: thanks

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Juski:

table blindness :)

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kormoc:

hehe, aye :)

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Juski:

hang on a minute.. this IS fskcing _marketing_

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tuck3r:

netw1z: http://pastebin.ca/205536

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vballrican:

ok, so how do i transfer recordings from my old hd to my new hd and have mythtv catalog them in database?

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Juski:

vballrican: the wiki is your friend

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kormoc:

vballrican, by importing the values from the database, which you did backup, right?

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kormoc:

cause as a good user, you researched before you attempted this

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Juski:

it'll cause you less pain (much less) to mount the new HDD to the same dir as the old one

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Juski:

then just copy the files across & import the old database

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Juski:

or just copy the files across if you didn't do anything to the db

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Juski:

there's a script called mythrebuild.pl but I dunno how much use it'd be to you now

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vballrican:

lol... no.. my old mythtv crashed... so i bought a new hd, installed os, mythtv .20 (i used to run .13), and configured it as per the docs..it's up and running.. i have about 80% of everything working... i put my old hd back in as a slave and i want to transfer my recordings... :)

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Juski:

so you've no database backup.. whoops

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vballrican:

it's on the old hd

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Juski:

ah okay

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vballrican:

i just don't know enough about mysql...

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Juski:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Importing_Old_Database

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GreyFoxx:

I'm not sure if a DB fvrom 0.13 is auto updateable

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Juski:

wtf have people asked for a screenshot util in mythtv???

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scopeuk:

Juski who knows

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scopeuk:

doesent your windowsmanager of choice normally handle that

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scopeuk:

or about 800 kabiulion other programs

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Juski:

vballrican: also http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Frequent . . . into_Myth.3F

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Juski:

vballrican: it's also possible that the recorded table hasn't changed all that much since 0.13, so maybe just import that table, but be careful to check the table structure first

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Juski:

anyway.. time for me bed. g'night all. 8 days til SHOWTIME!

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vballrican:

by importing the table, do i overwrite the existing one or does it append?

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stuarta:

night Juski

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vballrican:

night juski and thanks

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scopeuk:

night

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** stuarta is busy hacking fixups **

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vballrican:

ack..it has changed! My old files are .nuv while the new ones are mpg.. :(

[22:01:36]

GreyFoxx:

that's fine

[22:01:47]

GreyFoxx:

just have to make sure the basename column has the right filename

[22:02:26]

rtsai:

does anyone else think the new osd-based "delete" at the end of a recording takes too many menu navigations?

[22:02:53]

scopeuk:

rtsai perhaps youed rarther do it acidentaly more often?

[22:02:55]

GreyFoxx:

rtsai: Yeah, A couple of us are voting for making the Yes Delete option the default on the second screen

[22:03:16]

rtsai:

why not just have one OSD screen at the end? I don't understand the need for the second screen

[22:04:04]

GreyFoxx:

If it's one screen then as long as "No" is the default option I'm fine with it

[22:04:27]

rtsai:

that's fine. The OSD looks nicer, but I liked the old menu system: No, Yes (delete), and Yes (delete and re-record)

[22:04:40]

rtsai:

Currently, hitting "yes" brings up a second OSD.

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stuarta:

gack!! since when do i have to ask it twice to delete a recording!

[22:05:12]

rtsai:

yeah

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GreyFoxx:

stuarta: If you hit delete during playback as of a few days ago

[22:05:44]

rtsai:

it seems like it also happens at the end

[22:05:58]

stuarta:

I just noticed you guys discussing it, just after I noticed it myself...

[22:06:03]

GreyFoxx:

for a day or so it would just delete without asking for confirmation... I lost a show that way when I daught hit a button on the remote :)

[22:06:04]

rtsai:

unless commflag-skip-to-end counts as "during playback"

[22:06:36]

GreyFoxx:

I can live with the current behaviour if Yes is the default on the second screen, OR have asinglescreen with No as default

[22:07:03]

rtsai:

stuarta: see PlaybackBox::showDeletePopup (playbackbox.cpp)

[22:07:06]

stuarta:

i'm with rtsai on this one. hit 'd', options no, yes(delete), yes(del & re-record)

[22:08:26]

GreyFoxx:

I wouldn't mind a delete button in mythvideo hehe

[22:08:57]

** jams agrees with that statement **

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jams:

or imdb lookup without having to use the video manager

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GreyFoxx:

that'd be nifty

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jams:

i think so =)

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jams:

might put that on my list of things to look at

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netw1z:

who got away with naming it a joystick

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stuarta:

my pet hate is linux apps treating users like a windows weanie. do you really really really wanna?

[22:24:26]

kormoc:

that's why there's command line utils

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stuarta:

unless you are on a redhat system which aliases the commands to the weanie version

[22:25:06]

kormoc:

such as?

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stuarta:

alias rm='rm -i'

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stuarta:

alias cp='cp -i'

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stuarta:

etc etc

[22:25:42]

scopeuk:

stuarta much as i know alot of linux users are experts there are still beginers around

[22:25:51]

scopeuk:

if you dont like red hack screwing with it change it

[22:25:54]

stuarta:

true, that's why they do it....

[22:25:55]

** kormoc peers at his fedora servers and doesn't really see that **

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** scopeuk kicks the ox on the floor to make it stop whining **

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** stuarta suggests kormac see what alias says.. **

[22:26:21]

kormoc:

touch test && rm test works without being prompted

[22:26:28]

stuarta:

hmmm

[22:26:39]

kormoc:

stuarta, it's not set that way under alias

[22:26:41]

stuarta:

maybe they only do it for enterprise editions

[22:26:44]

kormoc:

in FC5 or 4 or 3

[22:26:57]

kormoc:

not in Centos 4.4

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kormoc:

nor RHEL 4

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scopeuk:

stuarta maby its an isntall option

[22:27:30]

scopeuk:

safe commands flag or some such non-sense

[22:27:32]

stuarta:

i'll check tomorrow in the office.

[22:27:41]

kormoc:

as much as I dislike redhat/fedora, I would be more upset if I had to deal with that all day :)

[22:27:46]

stuarta:

all our boxes are kickstarted....

[22:27:55]

stuarta:

when they were built of course

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kormoc:

yeah, as is ours, but we went really vanilla

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scopeuk:

i got a nice big button for power so i can litrally kick start my machine

[22:28:28]

** stuarta waits for eit data to fill.... **

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** scopeuk directs stuarta to aseat and the vending machine **

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stuarta:

scopeuk: does that mean you can kick stop your machine too? :)

[22:29:03]

scopeuk:

yup

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scopeuk:

although standby is far more useful

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** stuarta puts away his soap box. **

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** scopeuk wodners if the old 5 volt serial box trick stil lworks for bootign machines remotely **

[22:30:00]

stuarta:

wake on serial? wake on just about everything else

[22:30:06]

scopeuk:

wake on serial yup

[22:30:14]

scopeuk:

think my pc stil lhas it

[22:30:20]

scopeuk:

comes in handy with com port contro lboxes

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stuarta:

95% likely

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scopeuk:

9 volt batt few resistors and a ptm button and your golden

[22:30:36]

stuarta:

damn the spammers are busy tonight

[22:30:49]

** scopeuk feels left out no spam here **

[22:30:59]

scopeuk:

maby im jsut registered on the wrogn websites ;-)

[22:31:06]

scopeuk:

my email address is all over the internet

[22:31:15]

stuarta:

i'm just watching them hit & get rejected in my logs....

[22:31:35]

stuarta:

scopeuk: maybe whoever runs your email does the filtering for you?

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scopeuk:

stuarta there is some filtering and its pretty god done by gmail

[22:32:20]

scopeuk:

all that slips through are the occasional jpg image ones

[22:32:27]

scopeuk:

but thunderbird weeds them out

[22:32:44]

** scopeuk is very mis trusting of and file on the web atm **

[22:33:07]

scopeuk:

seen a nice im/irc worm that hides a pif behind a jpg on a webserver and opens up 14 diferent backdoor trojens

[22:33:39]

scopeuk:

think the bearigns are goign in my cpu fan

[22:35:15]

stuarta:

i'm a big fan of privoxy

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** kormoc blinks **

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kormoc:

a pif behind a jpg? how's that even work?

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scopeuk:

kormoc the server redirected to it transparently

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kormoc:

ahh

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kormoc:

still not sure how a pif would infect a machine, but fair nuff :P

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scopeuk:

pifs can contain pre compiled code that they execute when run

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scopeuk:

on windows any way

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kormoc:

hrm

[22:37:47]

scopeuk:

this particular one then downloaded the viruses from a mirror site

[22:37:54]

scopeuk:

well trogens

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kormoc:

my understanding was PIF's are win 3.11 and friends but wasn't supported as of 95 or so

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scopeuk:

work on win xp

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kormoc:

fair nuff

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scopeuk:

definately infected the vm i put it in

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scopeuk:

figured that was the only way of figuring out what it did and how to remove it wthout access to the real system

[22:39:13]

scopeuk:

isntalling winxp on qemu on win xp without kqemu is a slow proccess

[22:40:05]

dave:

whats the difference between qemu and vmwarE?

[22:40:29]

scopeuk:

qemu is an emulator vmware is a virtualiser

[22:40:42]

dave:

oh

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dave:

;_)

[22:43:28]

** stuarta can see the next question coming. **

[22:43:37]

dave:

why is the sky blue?

[22:43:43]

stuarta:

bzzt

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kormoc:

wikipedia can explain rather well

[22:44:27]

Honk^away:

<dave> why is the sky blue? <-- cuz of the way the atmosphere interacts with the light from the sun :]

[22:44:37]

scopeuk:

stuarta i got 1/2 way thorugh an explanation then thought no im bond to screw this up

[22:45:29]

stuarta:

the question i was expecting was "what's the difference between an emulator and a virtualizer?"

[22:45:37]

dave:

not from me sir

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stuarta:

:)

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scopeuk:

stuarta me too

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scopeuk:

then we got a smilly an i knew all was well

[22:46:52]

dave:

the reason i asked, is i noticed a report on using the free vmplayer with a qemu image (thus removing the need for the vmware tools)

[22:48:11]

dave:

anyway, time for bed – and for you scopeuk, it's late!

[22:48:27]

scopeuk:

dave yeh i gotta be up in 8 hours

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dave:

oh bugger

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scopeuk:

was 2 yesterday

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scopeuk:

6 hours isent to bad

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scopeuk:

whoudletn wanan do it every day though

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dave:

night all

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scopeuk:

right im off night all

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grndslm:

umm...the xfs guys told me to tell you guys to use prelinking allocation or somethin' like that

[23:03:53]

grndslm:

i agree....because it seems super slow with xfs

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** kormoc blinks **

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kormoc:

prelinking is to help the dynamic linker load libs faster

[23:04:23]

kormoc:

and xfs is a filesystem

[23:04:31]

sanmarcos:

I have a one.6 gigahertz athlon xp. and a geforce 6200 agp4x, 256mb, should I use libmpeg2/ffmpeg or standard xvmc? I am doing SDTV

[23:04:35]

kormoc:

and you can prelink myth, just like with any other app, via the prelink command

[23:04:39]

kormoc:

so erm, how are they related?

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grndslm:

they said it, not me

[23:04:57]

grndslm:

well...i didn't know you can turn prelinking on...i just download the debs...

[23:05:06]

grndslm:

i'm lazy...sheesh

[23:05:10]

kormoc:

well, you should read a prelinking guide then

[23:05:13]

kormoc:

they're everywhere

[23:05:34]

kormoc:

sanmarcos, well, a 6 ghz proc is a bit fast, so likely anything would work, given how ungodly fast it is

[23:06:00]

grndslm:

yummy...i guess i must be going to re-compile then?

[23:06:04]

kormoc:

sanmarcos, ooh, you mixed letters and numbers. XvMC would be faster on the cpu

[23:06:08]

kormoc:

grndslm, not at all

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grndslm:

what?!?

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sanmarcos:

kormoc: i am sorry. I dont understand your phrasing

[23:06:29]

kormoc:

grndslm, prelinking is something you just set to run every night or so, and it prelinks the binarys automatically

[23:06:36]

sanmarcos:

kormoc: the cpu never goes above 50%, and libmpeg2 works fine

[23:06:41]

sanmarcos:

kormoc: I was just wondering :)

[23:06:44]

kormoc:

grndslm, it's unrelated to the source code, and couldn't care less about the filesystem

[23:07:02]

kormoc:

sanmarcos, heh, it likely doesn't matter then

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grndslm:

some xfs guy told me that there were too many extents per gb that i was quoting him....and i said i had lvm if it made a difference...but he said it didn't

[23:07:27]

sanmarcos:

kormoc: :) great. I give you a kiss

[23:07:54]

grndslm:

he said something like prelinking or preallocation or something....it was a day or two ago

[23:07:59]

kormoc:

GreyFoxx, that's not prelinking

[23:08:04]

kormoc:

erm, grndslm

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kormoc:

grndslm, yeah, and that's not really myth related, that's setup when you created the XFS partition

[23:08:39]

grndslm:

what did i do wrong?

[23:08:43]

kormoc:

(the extents per gb iirc)

[23:09:05]

grndslm:

why wouldn't the default be good enough?

[23:09:27]

grndslm:

it takes like 5–10 seconds to delete files with xfs

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kormoc:

cause the default xfs setup isn't for ungodly large files

[23:09:33]

grndslm:

and i even have a dedicated backend

[23:09:46]

kormoc:

same with ext3, I had to tune it a bit for the larger files

[23:09:54]

kormoc:

and it's faster then out of the box defaults

[23:10:16]

grndslm:

well, dang...i'm going to be using this to store all my multimedia files....

[23:10:16]

kormoc:

least, that's my understanding on how XFS works with files

[23:10:22]

grndslm:

do you have a good recommendation

[23:10:30]

kormoc:

I'm not a XFS expert by any means

[23:10:41]

grndslm:

for files 4~3GB

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grndslm:

dangit all...do you know jfs extents any better?

[23:10:55]

kormoc:

I personally like ext3, but outside of that, I would use JFS

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grndslm:

i'm prolly gonna redo this

[23:12:05]

grndslm:

i had one problem with jfs...and i figured it was just unreliable, but i liked its speed....

[23:12:33]

kormoc:

JFS is used in production by a lot of big names, so it tends to be rather reliable

[23:12:35]

kormoc:

but ymmv

[23:12:35]

grndslm:

i prolly will go back to jfs, honestly....do you think ext3 is perfect for my needs

[23:12:45]

kormoc:

it would work fine, but would be slow

[23:12:54]

grndslm:

jfs it is....

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grndslm:

you know if there's a jfs channel?

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kormoc:

nope

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npodges:

what exactly do i have to change on the backend to allow connections from other networked frontends?

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kormoc:

change the ip it uses from 127.0.0.1 to one the others can reach

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npodges:

that's it?

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kormoc:

assuming you did the mysql change the docs say, yes

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grndslm:

use a static ip....open up mysql and then tell the frontend to connect to the given ip

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npodges:

okay

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fryfrog:

jfs or xfs

[23:24:18]

fryfrog:

i've had really good luck with xfs myself

[23:24:36]

fryfrog:

xfs_grow and xfs_fsr are spiffy :)

[23:24:40]

Zider:

reiserfs <3

[23:24:55]

fryfrog:

i like reiser, for my / (with portage)

[23:25:05]

fryfrog:

but xfs has lightning fast deletes

[23:25:15]

sanmarcos:

i am using tv out from nvidia, do I also need to plugin a composite audio from my sound card?

[23:25:20]

sanmarcos:

to get sound?

[23:25:31]

Zider:

actually, I'm a bit worried about the future of reiserfs now

[23:25:40]

Zider:

but all my drives are reiserfs

[23:25:41]

fryfrog:

now that the dude got arrested?

[23:25:50]

fryfrog:

who knows... maybe he'll have *more* time to code ;)

[23:25:51]

Zider:

yeah

[23:25:55]

Zider:

heh

[23:26:03]

Zider:

well, bad PR and stuff too

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sanmarcos:

anybody?

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Zider:

sanmarcos: yes, audio has to be connected from the soundcard

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grndslm:

reiser dev got arrested???

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grndslm:

does jfs have anything like xfs_grow...don't think so, right?

[23:28:59]

Zider:

grndslm: yeah, accused to have killed his wife or something

[23:29:10]

Zider:

grndslm: altho they haven't even found her yet

[23:29:17]

grndslm:

WOW

[23:29:22]

grndslm:

use windows

[23:29:29]

grndslm:

it won't drive you crazy

[23:29:30]

Zider:

eh?

[23:29:36]

Zider:

as if

[23:29:40]

grndslm:

hah

[23:29:45]

Zider:

I go mad every timeI usethat shit

[23:30:08]

Zider:

besides, nothing is proven yet

[23:30:12]

grndslm:

well, i guess he had a loud-mouthed ho or sumpin'

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grndslm:

i need to be slappin' some bitchz

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Zider:

you need to learn how to spell properly ;P

[23:31:06]

grndslm:

you need to quit playa hatin', homie!

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grndslm:

fo' i bussa cap

[23:31:32]

grndslm:

anyway...peace, i'm out!

[23:31:36]

Zider:

oh dear Lord, a wannabe hiphopper.. :P

[23:31:44]

grndslm:

you gay?

[23:32:04]

grndslm:

holla

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Zider:

since gay means happy, yes I am ;)

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sanmarcos:

hmm I am using nvidia tv out, but the FPS is laggy

[23:32:40]

sanmarcos:

any ideas what should I tweak?

[23:32:44]

sanmarcos:

on my monitor it looks fine

[23:35:01]

Zider:

tv-out is laggier than vga-out on the same card?

[23:36:03]

sanmarcos:

yes

[23:36:05]

sanmarcos:

and a little blurry

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Zider:

strange

[23:38:34]

sanmarcos:

what card do you have?

[23:38:35]

sanmarcos:

tv out I mean

[23:39:39]

Zider:

gf2mx

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kormoc:

I have a GeForce 6200, and tvout is quite nice

[23:40:02]

kormoc:

sure it's not your tv being laggy?

[23:40:33]

riddlebox:

what would cause my mythtv user to lock up everytime I login under it? if I log in as anything else it doesnt lock up?

[23:41:38]

sanmarcos:

kormoc: maybe

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sanmarcos:

kormoc: can I see your xorg.conf, can you pastebin it?

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kormoc:

not right now, but later tonight when I get home, sure

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sanmarcos:

do you specify any special options?

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sanmarcos:

maybe its the refresh rate

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sanmarcos:

or maybe S-video

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sanmarcos:

though I doubt compsotie would amke ad ifference

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kormoc:

no really special options, and I'm using svideo

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sanmarcos:

hmm weird

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sanmarcos:

also if I set my fonts too big (20 30) I dont see the bottom buttons

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sanmarcos:

its a small tv anyhow

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sanmarcos:

what resolution should one use for tv-out?

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sanmarcos:

on a normal sdtv?

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kormoc:

320x240, 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768

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xris:

sanmarcos: no more than 640x480 or you're just wasting cpu rendering/resizing

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xris:

cpu/gpu

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sanmarcos:

oh ok, if it a small tv?

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sanmarcos:

I am going to try using the pvr350's tv out

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sanmarcos:

shame that they have a x driver that is so hard to install

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xris:

what video card do you have?

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xris:

(aside from the 350, that is)

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sanmarcos:

geforce 6200

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xris:

geforce will look better

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xris:

assuming it has tv-out

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