| Friday, October 6th, 2006, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:16] | halex-ab: | that case only let you put in half-size cards..? |
| [00:00:36] | nadia007: | halex-ab, I've got the composite cable going from my pvr150 card into my tv. I've gone through the mythtv-setup. My capture card is /dev/video0, I've assigned a video source through datadirect and assigned my input connector to tuner. |
| [00:00:45] | mezoko: | halex-ab: no it only has room for 2 PCI cards, it pretty dam small, http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp . . . mp;class=npc |
| [00:01:16] | degreseven: | i just installed a new pvr150, which works fine with 'mplayer /dev/video0', but when i try to watch tv in myth i just get a blank screen & i have to kill mythfrontend to exit. mythbackend.log says 'VIDIOCOMBUF :: Invalid argument' |
| [00:01:17] | halex-ab: | nadia007, so, you get a desktop appearing on your tv, but it's just the video you can't watch..? |
| [00:01:48] | nadia007: | halex-ab, no... nothing appears on the tv |
| [00:02:03] | halex-ab: | nadia007, ah, right.. |
| [00:02:09] | halex-ab: | not too hard then.. lol |
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| [00:02:22] | nadia007: | I'm not sure if I have my config setup right or if it's a cabling issue. |
| [00:02:53] | nadia007: | got my pc monitor hooked up to my nvidia card, and tv hooked up to pvr card. |
| [00:03:06] | nadia007: | is it the other way around? |
| [00:03:16] | halex-ab: | does your graphics have a tv-out connector? |
| [00:03:20] | halex-ab: | graphics card* |
| [00:03:23] | mezoko: | which cpu would be recommended AMD or Intel? |
| [00:03:36] | burner: | is there any way of playing musicvideos in MythMusic? |
| [00:03:44] | halex-ab: | mezoko, depends on your budget.. |
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| [00:04:04] | nadia007: | halex-ab, I have nvidia 5200, yes it has tv out. |
| [00:04:06] | halex-ab: | burner, unless you're willing to write a mod to the MythMusic plugin, no.. |
| [00:04:07] | burner: | would have been nice with shuffle/playlist with videos also.. |
| [00:04:09] | k-man_: | is there a way to display the current time in the menus in mythtv? |
| [00:04:14] | nadia007: | I'll try to hook it up there. |
| [00:04:23] | halex-ab: | nadia007, Yes, thanks.. |
| [00:04:25] | mezoko: | halex-ab: well I can get a AMD and INTEL for about the same price |
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| [00:05:16] | burner: | halex-ab, write a new one maybe? "MythMusicVideos" :) |
| [00:05:42] | halex-ab: | burner, well, if you can find someone who's willing to write it, than sure.. |
| [00:06:01] | halex-ab: | nadia007, you probably won't see anything on TV even if you do plug it into TV-out on the graphics-card, but that's the proper way to wire it up.. |
| [00:06:18] | halex-ab: | you'll have to configure your system to send stuff on TVout.. |
| [00:06:34] | nadia007: | halex-ab, and how do you go about doing that? |
| [00:07:07] | burner: | anyway.. i can't get any sound while watching tv, using digital out (coax) |
| [00:07:23] | burner: | the sound works great in mythmusic/videos, though |
| [00:07:31] | nadia007: | so the pvr150 is strictly input card... the nvidia card is for the output. I'm running ubuntu dapper, is it an OS thing or is there something in myth to configure the output? |
| [00:08:23] | halex-ab: | nadia007, that's correct – the configuration is a linux-wide thing.. |
| [00:08:51] | halex-ab: | you want your screen and your TV to be hooked up permanently at the same time, or just the TV? |
| [00:09:20] | nadia007: | halex-ab, I'd like to have both so I can troubleshoot if possible! |
| [00:10:01] | halex-ab: | OK, first, backup your X config file, by opening at terminal and typing sudo cp /usr/X11/xorg.conf /usr/X11/xorg_backup.conf |
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| [00:10:08] | halex-ab: | Just incase we screw something up.. |
| [00:10:29] | nadia007: | lol... screw up... that never happens!! |
| [00:11:09] | halex-ab: | sorry, I meant /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /etc/X11/xorg_backup.conf |
| [00:11:31] | nadia007: | mine is /etc/X11R6 does that matter? |
| [00:11:57] | nadia007: | nope... got it... |
| [00:12:24] | nadia007: | kay... backed up |
| [00:12:32] | halex-ab: | Now type gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| [00:12:42] | nadia007: | got it |
| [00:12:54] | halex-ab: | Scroll down to the section labelled "Device" |
| [00:13:01] | halex-ab: | It's near the bottom, sorta.. |
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| [00:13:23] | halex-ab: | You've installed the nvidia-glx drivers first, correct? |
| [00:13:30] | nadia007: | got it |
| [00:14:04] | nadia007: | it's set for nvidia corporation nv34 [geforce fx 5200] |
| [00:14:51] | halex-ab: | Next to the 'Driver' part, does it say "nvidia" or "nv"? |
| [00:14:56] | nadia007: | nvidia |
| [00:15:06] | halex-ab: | good, alright |
| [00:15:10] | nadia007: | busid pci:1:0:0 |
| [00:15:41] | halex-ab: | Below that, add the following lines: |
| [00:15:48] | halex-ab: | Option "TwinView" |
| [00:15:56] | halex-ab: | Option "SecondMonitorHorizSync" "30–50" |
| [00:16:02] | halex-ab: | Option "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "60" |
| [00:16:06] | halex-ab: | Option "MetaModes" "1024x768, 1024x768; 800x600, 800x600; 640x480, 640x480;" |
| [00:16:11] | halex-ab: | Option "TVStandard" "NTSC-M" |
| [00:16:19] | halex-ab: | I'm assuming you live in the US.. |
| [00:16:41] | halex-ab: | OK, once you've done that save and close, and restart the X server via CTRL+ALT+Backspace |
| [00:16:57] | halex-ab: | Hopefully you'll see something appear on the TV.. |
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| [00:18:16] | nadia007: | I have an older tv... will those resolutions work on it? |
| [00:19:05] | halex-ab: | It'll scale the resolutions down to fit the TV – if anything, you should be checking the HorizSync values (but they should work on most TVs) |
| [00:20:21] | frank_: | nadia007: do you want to actually work on that computer at the same time as you output mythtv to TV or the computer will only be used for mythtv? |
| [00:20:21] | ** nadia007 reboots and crosses her fingers!! ** | |
| [00:20:47] | nadia007: | frank_, only myth I guess I could have vnc into the box or ssh... |
| [00:21:41] | frank_: | ok |
| [00:21:43] | nadia007: | hmmm... ubuntu didn't like that... |
| [00:21:54] | nadia007: | x server failed to start! |
| [00:21:58] | frank_: | nadia007: then TwinView should work |
| [00:22:20] | frank_: | nadia007: are you in the US? |
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| [00:22:58] | nadia007: | Well... Canada... |
| [00:23:17] | halex-ab: | Yeh, NTSC-M should work.. |
| [00:23:55] | halex-ab: | Hmmm.. |
| [00:23:59] | halex-ab: | Very odd.. |
| [00:24:14] | nadia007: | I placed the Option between the Section "Device" ....... EndSection |
| [00:24:16] | nadia007: | is this correct? |
| [00:24:58] | halex-ab: | Yes.. |
| [00:25:32] | nadia007: | ah... my bad... typeo... rebooting. |
| [00:26:36] | nadia007: | crud... still didn't like it. |
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| [00:27:17] | halex-ab: | Set back your old XConfig and pastebin what you currently have.. |
| [00:27:30] | halex-ab: | sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| [00:27:44] | halex-ab: | sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg_backup.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| [00:27:55] | nadia007: | http://pastebin.ca/192521 |
| [00:27:55] | halex-ab: | And restart |
| [00:27:58] | halex-ab: | Oh, right |
| [00:28:03] | halex-ab: | heh |
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| [00:28:43] | halex-ab: | On the "TVStandard: "NTSC-M line, you haven't closed the first parameter with quotes |
| [00:28:49] | halex-ab: | Should be "TVStandard" "NTSC-M |
| [00:29:08] | halex-ab: | "TVStandard" "NTSC-M" |
| [00:30:12] | nadia007: | http://pastebin.ca/192522 |
| [00:30:51] | nadia007: | ahh... I put : instead of ".... sry... lamo error! |
| [00:30:54] | halex-ab: | Yeh.. |
| [00:31:04] | halex-ab: | heh, fix that and see if X starts properly.. |
| [00:31:19] | nadia007: | I'm having a blonde day... sry! |
| [00:31:36] | halex-ab: | lol, No worries.. |
| [00:31:50] | nadia007: | I'm normally not this dumb! REALLY! |
| [00:32:14] | halex-ab: | You can admit it, it's OK.. ;) |
| [00:32:19] | nadia007: | lol |
| [00:32:42] | nadia007: | sweet... that did it!... now I just have to find an svideo to composite cable!! |
| [00:32:59] | nadia007: | if I run mythfrontend... shouldn' |
| [00:33:13] | nadia007: | I see something when I run watch tv though? |
| [00:33:16] | nadia007: | even on my monitor? |
| [00:33:21] | halex-ab: | you should see it on both.. |
| [00:33:39] | nadia007: | don't have the svideo to composite to put on tv! |
| [00:34:10] | nadia007: | but I can see on my pc monitor. |
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| [00:34:32] | nadia007: | when I go watch tv... the screen goes completely black and can't do anything |
| [00:34:54] | nadia007: | I do have the coaxial cable going into the pvr card |
| [00:34:55] | halex-ab: | does it lockup, or just blanks out? |
| [00:35:10] | halex-ab: | coax is just the input, shouldn't need to worrk about it |
| [00:35:15] | nadia007: | it goes black... about 30 sec later it returns to the menu |
| [00:35:15] | halex-ab: | worry* |
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| [00:35:34] | halex-ab: | What's the output for mythbackend's log? |
| [00:36:06] | nadia007: | halex-ab, /vat/log/mythtv? |
| [00:36:32] | halex-ab: | /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend, yes.. |
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| [00:38:05] | nadia007: | http://pastebin.ca/192527 |
| [00:38:07] | RyeBrye: | Some of my themes have no text display when I select them (visor & Titivillus) |
| [00:38:16] | RyeBrye: | Am I missing some fonts or something? |
| [00:39:09] | halex-ab: | nadia007, was it working before..? |
| [00:39:33] | nadia007: | nope... first time |
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| [00:40:51] | halex-ab: | alright then, the "Unknown video codec" line tells us something.. |
| [00:41:07] | RyeBrye: | Anyone else have problems with some themes not having text show up? |
| [00:41:18] | halex-ab: | What type of TV you trying to watch..? DVB? |
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| [00:41:22] | coder: | the machine i have mythbackend on recently got powered off while running and now, i can't connect the frontend to that box |
| [00:41:43] | nadia007: | halex-ab, not dvb... I have pvr150 |
| [00:41:43] | coder: | i get "mythtv: could not connect to socket" "mythtv: No such file or directory" |
| [00:42:01] | halex-ab: | coder, that's from the frontend..? |
| [00:42:18] | coder: | yes |
| [00:42:36] | mezoko: | How would I connect a sound sytem to a audio out (green plug on mobo/sound card)? |
| [00:43:00] | halex-ab: | nadia007, you got IVTV installed? |
| [00:43:10] | nadia007: | yup... |
| [00:43:32] | halex-ab: | so, typing mplayer /dev/video0 gives you stuff? |
| [00:43:57] | coder: | halex: http://pastebin.ca/192536 <-- mythfrontend output |
| [00:44:01] | nadia007: | http://pastebin.ca/192537 |
| [00:44:58] | nadia007: | halex-ab, wow... yup... got an m&m commercial that came up!! Cool! |
| [00:45:12] | Pryon: | mezoko: really depends on the inputs of your soundsystem, but something like this: http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/adapters-rca-18.html |
| [00:45:13] | halex-ab: | Good.. lol |
| [00:45:30] | halex-ab: | nadia007, so, we know that the card itself works, just Myth doesn't wanna let you watch it, lol |
| [00:45:49] | nadia007: | halex-ab, well... that's 1/2 good news!!! |
| [00:45:54] | coder: | halex-ab: any ideas? |
| [00:46:00] | RyeBrye: | nadia – did you run mythtvsetup? |
| [00:46:13] | mezoko: | Pryon: ok cool, so just simple adaptor |
| [00:46:15] | nadia007: | RyeBrye, i ran mythtv-setup |
| [00:46:38] | Pryon: | mezoko: Probably, yes. |
| [00:46:54] | halex-ab: | coder, I was actually hoping you could pastebin the output of the mythfrontend command, rather than dmesg |
| [00:46:58] | Pryon: | At least that one's only $3.95 so it won't be too expensive a lesson if it fails :-) |
| [00:47:13] | coder: | halex: you looked at wrong url =) |
| [00:47:24] | coder: | that was nadia007's pastebin |
| [00:47:26] | halex-ab: | Ooh, right.. heh |
| [00:47:48] | nadia007: | poor halex-ab getting confused with so many pastebin's! |
| [00:48:01] | ** halex-ab gets overloaded with pastebin links ** | |
| [00:48:10] | nadia007: | I got mythtv-setup running again... what should I look for? |
| [00:48:11] | halex-ab: | coder, Those two lines you mentioned related to lirc, not connecting to the backend |
| [00:48:23] | halex-ab: | nadia007, Under the Card Setup.. |
| [00:48:35] | coder: | i wonder what the deal is then.. =( |
| [00:48:42] | nadia007: | halex-ab, capture cards? |
| [00:48:45] | halex-ab: | yup |
| [00:48:55] | halex-ab: | coder, what values do you have under general for the backend? |
| [00:49:06] | halex-ab: | well, it'll appear on the frontend too, just run mythtv-setup |
| [00:49:19] | nadia007: | it has analog v4l capture card and video device as /dev/video0 |
| [00:49:43] | Pryon: | Ah, wrong card. |
| [00:49:46] | nadia007: | probed info is wintv pvr 150 [ivtv] |
| [00:50:01] | halex-ab: | Yeh, isn't there a seperate section for the PVR 150? |
| [00:50:14] | Pryon: | Yeah, there's a separate choice for *50 cards |
| [00:50:27] | coder: | halex-ab: backend and frontend different boxes.. |
| [00:50:33] | coder: | but what values are u interested in |
| [00:50:41] | nadia007: | MPEG-2 encoder card (PVR-x50, PVR-500? |
| [00:50:44] | Pryon: | bingo |
| [00:50:48] | halex-ab: | nadia007, yup |
| [00:51:02] | halex-ab: | coder, the IP values for the backend.. |
| [00:51:10] | nadia007: | he he... didn't notice that was a drop down menu with other options! |
| [00:51:18] | coder: | the correct ones =) |
| [00:51:26] | coder: | 192.168.1.102 |
| [00:51:37] | coder: | for both local and master ip.. |
| [00:51:48] | halex-ab: | Good, so you've changed it off localhost.. |
| [00:51:52] | coder: | yes |
| [00:51:57] | halex-ab: | Hmm, then I have no idea why it isn't connecting.. |
| [00:52:05] | halex-ab: | Can you ping it from the frontend? |
| [00:52:13] | coder: | yes |
| [00:52:15] | nadia007: | HOLY SWEETNESS... it works! |
| [00:52:18] | coder: | im vnc'd into it |
| [00:52:23] | nadia007: | THX! |
| [00:52:56] | halex-ab: | heh, no problem.. |
| [00:53:01] | nadia007: | gonna hafta figure out the remote thing after dinner I guess... just install lirc? |
| [00:53:03] | halex-ab: | gotta say thanks to Pryon too, remember.. |
| [00:53:10] | halex-ab: | nadia007, yup.. |
| [00:53:12] | halex-ab: | that's fun.. lol |
| [00:53:48] | halex-ab: | coder, so, you've changed the MySQL host perms too..? |
| [00:53:55] | halex-ab: | I'm assuming you did, as you said it worked yesterday |
| [00:53:57] | coder: | yea |
| [00:53:57] | ** nadia007 sends her deepest appreciation to all channel members that participated in helping her and her room mates get their myth tv running! ** | |
| [00:54:09] | coder: | =) the frontend loads up with no menu |
| [00:54:15] | Pryon: | Hey, she's just lucky I didn't say something completely wrong. |
| [00:54:17] | nadia007: | ;) gotta run before cafeteria closes... thx again! |
| [00:54:24] | coder: | and then seg faults if i do anything |
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| [00:54:42] | halex-ab: | coder, you compile off the stable 0.20 tree? |
| [00:54:47] | coder: | i was assuming it was a problem w/ theme or something.. but doesnt make sense |
| [00:54:49] | coder: | yes |
| [00:55:09] | halex-ab: | nothing like that's ever happened to me, heh |
| [00:55:27] | halex-ab: | i've had issues where X would crash if I tried fullscreen video remotely, but the menu appeared.. |
| [00:55:36] | coder: | damn |
| [00:55:51] | coder: | my f***ing roommate unplugged the mythbackend box |
| [00:56:02] | coder: | and its been broke since |
| [00:56:18] | BULLE: | coder: why did he do that ? |
| [00:56:33] | halex-ab: | He was bored, obviously.. ;) |
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| [00:56:37] | coder: | to steal his monster power center back |
| [00:56:37] | coder: | =) |
| [00:56:46] | BULLE: | coder: and use NX instead of VNC, its way nicer for remote desktoping |
| [00:57:21] | coder: | bulle: cool.. i only vnc for mythtv-setup =) but ill check it out |
| [00:57:37] | BULLE: | coder: its WAY faster then vnc |
| [00:57:41] | coder: | nice |
| [00:57:51] | BULLE: | coder: but if all you do is use it for mythv-setup, it might not be worth the install |
| [00:58:07] | coder: | ya.. ssh for everything else |
| [00:58:17] | halex-ab: | mmm, ssh.. |
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| [00:58:24] | BULLE: | coder: NX is so fast i run it instead of ssh nowadays |
| [00:58:29] | coder: | really? |
| [00:58:33] | BULLE: | coder: yes |
| [00:58:38] | halex-ab: | Gotta try it then, thanks BULLE |
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| [01:04:24] | coder: | i just wish myth would behave =) |
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| [01:05:03] | halex-ab: | myth is great, it's just so massive and unreliable.. |
| [01:05:09] | BULLE: | halex-ab: ye |
| [01:05:13] | coder: | ya |
| [01:05:37] | BULLE: | massive is the right word i think |
| [01:05:49] | BULLE: | it needs several levels, like novice, intermediate and advanced |
| [01:05:51] | BULLE: | for config |
| [01:05:59] | halex-ab: | heh, indeed.. |
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| [01:08:11] | coder: | i just need some kinda clue as to wtf the problem is heh |
| [01:08:34] | halex-ab: | well, thats the funny thing, there's almost no indication.. |
| [01:08:36] | coder: | i dont have anything to work from |
| [01:08:37] | DrMitch: | in mythweb .20, if I use htdigest auth, it gives me a login prompt...then when I enter the username/pw, i get a 500- Internal Server Error. If I turn OFF htdigest auth, it works normally. any clue what's wrong? |
| [01:08:57] | halex-ab: | coder, you could try running a mythbackend locally, and see if menus come up.. |
| [01:09:05] | coder: | it does |
| [01:09:09] | halex-ab: | ah.. |
| [01:09:10] | coder: | backend |
| [01:09:17] | coder: | ? |
| [01:09:32] | halex-ab: | eh? |
| [01:09:38] | darrenp: | DrMitch: Sounds more like an apache problem than a myth problem. What do the apache error logs say? |
| [01:09:43] | coder: | im confused |
| [01:09:47] | halex-ab: | lol, me too.. |
| [01:09:55] | halex-ab: | is the backend console only? |
| [01:09:56] | ciphernemo: | I'm trying to get nvidia-glx working on my pc with a 6600GT card, but the nvidia driver isn't loading in X. I'm following the directions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia and at the 3rd troubleshooting point. Should I change this driver text from "nv" to "nvidia", or are they just talking about checking for it? |
| [01:10:07] | DrMitch: | configuration error: couldn't check user. No user file?: /mythweb/ |
| [01:10:26] | darrenp: | ciphernemo: needs to be nvidia for the official nvidia driver |
| [01:10:29] | coder: | backend console only.. |
| [01:10:35] | DrMitch: | but i specified: AuthUserFile /mnt/docs/htdocs/.htdigest |
| [01:10:37] | halex-ab: | ciphernemo, yes, change nv to nvidia |
| [01:10:40] | DrMitch: | and it's there |
| [01:10:47] | ciphernemo: | darrenp: I have the restricted modules for it, so I'll change it, correct? |
| [01:10:55] | ** darrenp nods ** | |
| [01:10:57] | halex-ab: | coder, but you have a gui, right? |
| [01:10:58] | ciphernemo: | thx |
| [01:11:05] | coder: | gui for? |
| [01:11:13] | halex-ab: | gnome, kde.. |
| [01:11:16] | coder: | yes |
| [01:11:17] | coder: | heh |
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| [01:11:31] | halex-ab: | ok, then just run a frontend there, see if you can watch tv.. |
| [01:11:40] | halex-ab: | if so, you know its the other machine screwing around |
| [01:12:01] | darrenp: | DrMitch: Hmm, strange. What is the full error that comes out? |
| [01:12:46] | DrMitch: | http://drmitch.homelinux.com/mythweb/ |
| [01:12:53] | DrMitch: | see for yourself |
| [01:12:57] | DrMitch: | enter ANY username/pw |
| [01:13:48] | darrenp: | Yeah, but there should also be an error produced in a log file somewhere that is usually much more useful. |
| [01:14:07] | DrMitch: | [Thu Oct 5 19:13:03 2006] [crit] [client 220.233.24.69] configuration error: couldn't check user. No user file?: /mythweb/ |
| [01:14:11] | DrMitch: | that's all it says |
| [01:14:30] | J-e-f-f-A: | DrMitch: How about permissions? Can apache read the file? |
| [01:14:59] | coder: | halex-ab, the frontend gui part works fine from that box.. except ive never been able to watch tv.. it seg faults (and always has).. |
| [01:15:30] | halex-ab: | coder, alright then, you know it's the other machine not getting data off the backend then.. |
| [01:15:37] | coder: | right |
| [01:15:51] | halex-ab: | if you're willing, you could try and compile HEAD and see if your bug's been fixed.. |
| [01:15:53] | DrMitch: | have it set 644 |
| [01:15:55] | darrenp: | DrMitch, did you use the example file from mythweb? Mine says AuthDigestFile not AuthUserFile |
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| [01:16:11] | coder: | because i can see preview video of recorded shows |
| [01:16:34] | DrMitch: | that did it. weird, i used the .20 example .htaccess file |
| [01:16:36] | coder: | halex-ab, i dont understand |
| [01:16:46] | DrMitch: | what version are you running darren? |
| [01:16:59] | halex-ab: | coder, that's exactly what happened on my setup at home, i can see the mini-preview, but attempting to watch it crashes it.. |
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| [01:17:09] | Mattwj2005: | hey guys :) |
| [01:17:22] | coder: | halex-ab, thats from VNC, on the backend box.. |
| [01:17:43] | coder: | i think its trying to use Xv even though i told it not to |
| [01:17:48] | coder: | (ati card) |
| [01:17:54] | darrenp: | .20 |
| [01:17:54] | halex-ab: | ah.. |
| [01:18:19] | darrenp: | Bizare! :) At least its working now tho'. |
| [01:18:38] | halex-ab: | coder, what I meant earlier was you could go and compile the latest testing version from scratch, and see if it fixes your issue – however, it might work.. |
| [01:18:41] | DrMitch: | yea, thanks dude |
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| [01:18:51] | coder: | damn =) |
| [01:19:11] | halex-ab: | mightn't* |
| [01:19:12] | halex-ab: | heh |
| [01:19:44] | halex-ab: | I'm having Myth issues of my own – for some reason, myth always complains that it can't open the card, however, dvbstream opens and streams off the card A-OK.. |
| [01:19:49] | halex-ab: | Only started happening a few days ago.. |
| [01:20:13] | coder: | myth frustrates me to no end |
| [01:20:22] | coder: | should be so simple |
| [01:20:29] | halex-ab: | exactly.. |
| [01:20:40] | halex-ab: | that fact that you have to learn all this extra stuff is what's bad.. |
| [01:21:00] | halex-ab: | especially for the average joe.. |
| [01:21:04] | coder: | ya |
| [01:21:09] | coder: | im fine with learning things. |
| [01:21:11] | coder: | but man |
| [01:21:15] | coder: | talk about hoop jumping |
| [01:21:28] | J-e-f-f-A: | coder: It's worth it though!!! ;-) |
| [01:21:31] | coder: | i know |
| [01:21:41] | coder: | mine just keeps breaking =/ |
| [01:21:41] | halex-ab: | How I miss my ad-eating.. lol |
| [01:22:23] | coder: | i almost had mythfrontend working thru ssh tunnel.. im sure it wouldnt have worked well .. |
| [01:22:28] | coder: | but it was so close |
| [01:22:31] | J-e-f-f-A: | coder: I got my system working near-perfect, and I don't want to touch it now. When it comes time to go to .20, I'll build a new backend and migrate everything over... ;-) |
| [01:23:03] | coder: | J-e-f-f-A, I just have a problem and no clues towards answer |
| [01:23:26] | J-e-f-f-A: | coder: I came in late — what version are you running? |
| [01:23:34] | coder: | .20 |
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| [01:23:58] | scottder: | *envy* my firend is playing with his HDHomeRun...says it's pretty cool |
| [01:24:16] | coder: | J-e-f-f-A, http://pastebin.ca/192536 <-- mythfrontend output |
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| [01:24:29] | J-e-f-f-A: | scottder: I like my HD MythTV! ;-) |
| [01:25:13] | halex-ab: | I liked mine, until it broke, heh |
| [01:25:28] | Mattwj2005: | I hear you J-e-f-f-a |
| [01:25:36] | Mattwj2005: | HDTV is all that and a bag of chips! |
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| [01:26:50] | Mattwj2005: | J-e-f-f-A do you have a HDTV as well? |
| [01:26:56] | J-e-f-f-A: | coder: Humm... |
| [01:27:28] | J-e-f-f-A: | Mattwj2005: No, I use Computer monitors right now... a 20" in the bedroom, and a 37" in the living room. ;-) (Yes, a 37" monitor!!!) |
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| [01:27:40] | Mattwj2005: | lol |
| [01:27:42] | defaultro: | good evening folks |
| [01:27:44] | Mattwj2005: | dang dude! |
| [01:27:45] | quink: | evening |
| [01:27:57] | Mattwj2005: | I got a SDTV right now |
| [01:28:01] | coder: | J-e-f-f-A, no clues? |
| [01:28:05] | J-e-f-f-A: | coder: Do you have mythweb installed? |
| [01:28:06] | Mattwj2005: | and a HDTV tuner in my MythTV box |
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| [01:28:07] | defaultro: | can you recommend a bluetooth device that is compatible with linux? |
| [01:28:09] | coder: | yes |
| [01:28:19] | J-e-f-f-A: | coder: Does mythweb work? |
| [01:29:05] | coder: | it has no data |
| [01:29:12] | coder: | but it has my recorded programs |
| [01:29:23] | quink: | anyone highly capable with ivtv setup? |
| [01:29:40] | J-e-f-f-A: | coder: Ok... How about the 'Backend Status' screen... does that work |
| [01:30:01] | coder: | yes |
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| [01:30:26] | KaiForce: | quink: probably not "highly capable" but whats up? |
| [01:30:37] | coder: | it says there is supposed to be guide data til 10–14.. and mythweb shows none |
| [01:30:50] | J-e-f-f-A: | coder: Ok... So it obviously finds the mysql database to get the backend address... |
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| [01:31:05] | quink: | KaiForce: things were all working fine. then a less computer capable person in my house decided hiting the reset button was the way to eject a CD. anyways once it was back up IVTV stopped wroking |
| [01:31:06] | coder: | ya |
| [01:31:12] | quink: | it can't load the firmware |
| [01:31:18] | coder: | mythweb and mythbackend on one box.. frontend on another |
| [01:31:42] | KaiForce: | quink: I had that happen to me. I had to cold start the system for it to work. Are you on an older version? |
| [01:31:45] | J-e-f-f-A: | coder: Yeah, just trying to think... |
| [01:31:51] | quink: | 4.5 |
| [01:32:01] | quink: | coldstart? hm. that might be i have just been rebooting. |
| [01:32:02] | KaiForce: | what card(s) |
| [01:32:07] | quink: | pvr250 |
| [01:32:13] | KaiForce: | same here. try a cold start. |
| [01:32:18] | coder: | weird.. the searches work from mythweb.. no guide listing though |
| [01:32:26] | quink: | good idea. i remember something about that. |
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| [01:32:52] | coder: | ahh.. i see why now |
| [01:32:53] | KaiForce: | its annoying but at least there is a workaround |
| [01:33:01] | coder: | data starts at midnight tonight.. |
| [01:33:02] | coder: | ok |
| [01:33:07] | J-e-f-f-A: | coder: Did you give it a bit? I've got Dish network, with 200+ channels — it takes about 20 seconds to come up with the listings... |
| [01:33:24] | coder: | its all there now |
| [01:34:04] | KaiForce: | quink: label the reset button with "This does not eject CD" rofl |
| [01:35:26] | KaiForce: | quink: i think i found the fix for that at one point but I'm not certain... at some point that problem stopped happening to me |
| [01:35:35] | KaiForce: | probably after an upgrade |
| [01:35:43] | J-e-f-f-A: | coder: see if you can view the mythtv status screen from your frontend in a web browser: http://192.168.1.102:6544 |
| [01:36:13] | coder: | yes |
| [01:36:45] | J-e-f-f-A: | coder: humm... |
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| [01:38:41] | quink: | no go. |
| [01:39:11] | quink: | ivtv0: unable to open firmware v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw |
| [01:39:12] | coder: | why would i get "Couldn't read menu file mainmenu.xml" ? |
| [01:39:26] | coder: | thats the problem |
| [01:40:16] | quink: | any other ideas? |
| [01:40:37] | KaiForce: | yes |
| [01:40:43] | KaiForce: | one sec... |
| [01:41:13] | quink: | i've checked and rechecked the firmware file is there, even redownloaded the stuff etc |
| [01:41:20] | KaiForce: | read this: http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Firmware |
| [01:41:35] | KaiForce: | ok, if you've done that, have you considered upgrading ivtv? |
| [01:42:13] | quink: | KaiForce: can't cause i can't upgrade the kernel |
| [01:42:22] | quink: | the whole 4.x rev has been working great |
| [01:42:25] | quink: | until this incident. |
| [01:42:28] | KaiForce: | are you sure the firmware is in the proper location? |
| [01:42:38] | KaiForce: | well it was working... nm last question |
| [01:42:56] | quink: | yeah. |
| [01:43:04] | quink: | i can't figure out what its problem is. |
| [01:43:17] | J-e-f-f-A: | coder: I dunno — I was comparing your output to mine, but I'm running .19, so things are a little different there. |
| [01:43:24] | quink: | been tot hat page before. actually upgraded from like 4.1 to 4.5 just to see |
| [01:43:27] | quink: | no differences |
| [01:43:47] | scottder: | Mythweb still brokey for me...grrr...Incompatible protocol version (mythweb=31, backend=30) |
| [01:43:53] | coder: | i think it has something to do w/ runtime directory |
| [01:45:22] | scottder: | ? |
| [01:45:30] | KaiForce: | quink: researching... |
| [01:45:38] | J-e-f-f-A: | coder: Hey — your prefix is: "Using runtime prefix = /usr/local", mine is just "/usr"... |
| [01:46:17] | quink: | KaiForce: i've been looking through forums for a while now. just can't figure it out. might just dump this install, format and do some updates all around |
| [01:46:45] | KaiForce: | heh, you sound like me. "this piece of crap doesn't work." Format/reinstall :) |
| [01:47:09] | quink: | well i had a fuck up of sorts a month or so ago and thats a good reason to restart |
| [01:47:22] | quink: | upgraded gcc to a new version and it screwed the whole system up |
| [01:47:31] | quink: | i managed to 'restore' things but i'm not completely happy |
| [01:47:37] | quink: | plus thinking of doing hardware upgrades. |
| [01:47:56] | KaiForce: | where did you put the firmware? |
| [01:48:13] | quink: | in /lib/firmware and /lib/modules/ |
| [01:48:20] | coder: | i fixed it |
| [01:48:23] | coder: | wow |
| [01:48:45] | J-e-f-f-A: | coder: Was it the runtime prefix? |
| [01:48:46] | KaiForce: | for s&g try /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware |
| [01:48:51] | quink: | okay. |
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| [01:49:02] | coder: | of course |
| [01:49:13] | quink: | KaiForce: what distribution you run? |
| [01:49:17] | coder: | so weird |
| [01:49:20] | KaiForce: | fedora core |
| [01:49:25] | KaiForce: | usually |
| [01:49:29] | quink: | ah. i'm on gentoo |
| [01:49:38] | quink: | don't even have a directory like that but i'll do it just for fun |
| [01:49:43] | coder: | the first thing i tried too .. but i tried using --override-setting MYTHTVDIR=/usr and it did nothing |
| [01:49:49] | KaiForce: | just curious... |
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| [01:50:09] | coder: | but this time i use export MYTHTVDIR=/usr and it works |
| [01:50:24] | J-e-f-f-A: | KaiForce: I've got my firmware in /etc/firmware too — it probably doesn't belong there... (on FC4) |
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| [01:50:39] | J-e-f-f-A: | coder: cool. I'm glad it's working now. |
| [01:51:04] | KaiForce: | i remember at one point symlinking it somewhere, but not sure where... |
| [01:51:27] | J-e-f-f-A: | KaiForce: And it's also in /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware ... |
| [01:51:31] | quink: | no luck KaiForce |
| [01:51:34] | KaiForce: | dang... |
| [01:51:43] | KaiForce: | ok sounds like you are game for a reload |
| [01:52:01] | quink: | hahah |
| [01:52:08] | KaiForce: | strange that it started happening all of the sudden |
| [01:52:21] | quink: | yeah. |
| [01:52:36] | J-e-f-f-A: | quink: hey, do a locate on 'firmware' — the directly probably exists somewhere... |
| [01:53:12] | quink: | J-e-f-f-A: let me double check that too |
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| [01:56:01] | quink: | ./lib/firmware ./sys/firmware /sys/class/firmware |
| [01:56:11] | KaiForce: | anyone else having problem where mythweather doesn't populate any screens except the map? |
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| [01:57:02] | KaiForce: | it worked on the initial setup, but never again. my last install was the same way |
| [01:58:01] | J-e-f-f-A: | quink: Try blasting it to both /lib/firmware and /sys/firmware — might be overkill, but it it works, then so be it... |
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| [01:58:52] | quink: | i think /sys/ isn't a filesystem i can mess with |
| [01:59:03] | quink: | sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec) |
| [01:59:07] | J-e-f-f-A: | KaiForce: Not me on .19 — but often the day names are listed wong... |
| [02:00:14] | KaiForce: | Like i said, it worked when I set it up at my office, but then brought it home (and changed IPs) and it doesn't work... Not a big deal. Just wondering if this was common. |
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| [02:00:51] | J-e-f-f-A: | quink: Ok, then it's in /lib/firmware ... permissions are ok? |
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| [02:01:07] | quink: | J-e-f-f-A: what are your perms cause i don't know what they should be. |
| [02:01:14] | quink: | or what should they be i guess |
| [02:01:43] | KaiForce: | oooh i think i know the problem. |
| [02:01:50] | KaiForce: | it uses msnbc |
| [02:02:07] | J-e-f-f-A: | quink: Humm... perhaps I had the same issue at one time... looks like I set them to 777... (Yikes!) |
| [02:02:11] | KaiForce: | i blocked a certain class C when it came out that they were spying on their customers |
| [02:02:19] | quink: | the whole directory or just the firmware files? |
| [02:02:32] | KaiForce: | i'll bet MSNBC is in that class C |
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| [02:02:47] | J-e-f-f-A: | quink: Just the files.. the dir is 755 |
| [02:03:29] | quink: | trying it now. |
| [02:04:39] | quink: | ivtv: probe of 0000:01:06.0 failed with error -12 |
| [02:04:45] | quink: | no go, same error |
| [02:05:32] | KaiForce: | yep that was it |
| [02:06:15] | J-e-f-f-A: | quink: Bummer. You probably have to try the ivtv folks, unless you just start over... If it's only a frontend, it shouldn't be that bad. |
| [02:06:42] | quink: | yeah i'll probably start over |
| [02:06:49] | quink: | in the middle of upgrading systems and i'll do it then |
| [02:06:56] | quink: | any of you run your system on matx boards? |
| [02:07:18] | J-e-f-f-A: | quink: Oh, it's not a frontend only if you're using ivtv, eh? (duh!) |
| [02:07:47] | J-e-f-f-A: | quink: Not me atm... I've been recycling old hardware... ;-) |
| [02:08:04] | quink: | i've been on the lookout for a board that fulfills my wants. have yet to find a good one |
| [02:09:20] | J-e-f-f-A: | quink: I've put a 'standard' atx mb in an old magnavox vcr case. It's got short cards for video, lan & sound (not built in), and a PIII 800... It'll make a good SD frontend. |
| [02:09:33] | quink: | ah. i'm not up to that much work. |
| [02:09:50] | J-e-f-f-A: | quink: Just trying to get it netboot now so I can make it diskless.. ;-) |
| [02:10:20] | KaiForce: | i have a media mvp using the mvpmc project for that |
| [02:10:34] | KaiForce: | it works very well if you don't need hdtv |
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| [02:11:32] | J-e-f-f-A: | I've got a Pinnacle ShowCenter 1000g in my son's room — It's not a full-featured frontend, it just plays back the video files and music... (served with SwissCenter) |
| [02:12:31] | J-e-f-f-A: | I've got a cron job setup to run 'mythrename.pl' to create links to myth's .mpg files daily. Works pretty good! |
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| [02:15:19] | slide: | Anyone using xbmcmythtv? I can't get it to access the recorded shows |
| [02:15:31] | slide: | it seems to pop up an error dialogue, but it doesnt stay long enough for me to see |
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| [02:16:00] | JoshT76: | hello all |
| [02:18:42] | Anduin: | JoshT76: ask and see, niceties are not for the likes of us |
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| [02:18:53] | JoshT76: | in mythweb, my recordings get labeled as live tv events even though they are scheduled if a show that is recorded follows a show just recorded on the same channel, anysuggestions? |
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| [02:20:06] | Anduin: | JoshT76: So the second of two consecutive scheduled recordings is shown as live? |
| [02:21:02] | JoshT76: | yes instead of labled as a default recording, basically the shows use the same rule, but if they are back to back air times, the second is labled as live tv |
| [02:22:09] | JoshT76: | so i have many shows labled default that start on the hour and many shows that are labled live tv that were recorded on the half hour... |
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| [02:22:51] | JoshT76: | and it flip-flops depending on if the first show of a back to back starts on the half hour |
| [02:24:53] | Anduin: | JoshT76: Where do you see this status (which mythweb page)? |
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| [02:26:47] | Speedy2: | Hey all. What is that set top box that Juski got? Something with a 733MHz processor |
| [02:27:03] | Anduin: | JoshT76: You mean when you look at the recording profile... that is whatever you set it to. |
| [02:27:04] | JoshT76: | Anduin: it is on the recorded programs page |
| [02:27:50] | Anduin: | JoshT76: Yeah, that is just a profile, has nothing to do with whether it was actually live TV (your record rule just has that as the profile) |
| [02:27:54] | Speedy2: | S100 something |
| [02:27:56] | fryfrog: | Speedy2: the MSNTV something? |
| [02:28:01] | fryfrog: | oh, nm |
| [02:28:08] | Speedy2: | Perhaps |
| [02:28:09] | Anduin: | JoshT76: Should also have nothing to do with the time. |
| [02:28:15] | Speedy2: | fryfrog: What is the full name? MSNTV? |
| [02:28:28] | Anduin: | Juski has the S100 |
| [02:28:37] | fryfrog: | i dunno, sorry |
| [02:28:53] | Speedy2: | Anduin: Who makes it? Any pages with info? |
| [02:29:32] | Speedy2: | MSNTV2 , right? |
| [02:29:36] | Anduin: | Speedy2: T-Online S100 (search for that) |
| [02:29:51] | Anduin: | Speedy2: RM4100 MSNTV2 is the MSNTV one |
| [02:30:27] | JoshT76: | anduin: for example, on fox at 7p the simpsons records, default profile, record any anytime on fox, 7:30 seinfeld, default profile, record anytime on any channel |
| [02:31:04] | Anduin: | JoshT76: Yes, you just have the Live TV recording profile selected for that recording, you are free to change it. |
| [02:31:14] | JoshT76: | anduin: the simpsons gets labeled default, seinfeld gets labeled live tv, or the recgroup is live tv vs. default |
| [02:32:05] | Anduin: | JoshT76: Go to the Recording Schedules page and see |
| [02:32:05] | JoshT76: | anduin: but on the upcoming recordings page evrything says default |
| [02:32:31] | JoshT76: | anduin: same thing on that page, all default |
| [02:35:47] | JoshT76: | is anyone streaming from mythweb and if so, what method? i tried flv but the quality is so so, i was wondering if anyone tried to use vlc streaming? |
| [02:37:01] | JoshT76: | is mythstreamtv any good? |
| [02:37:20] | Anduin: | JoshT76: Judging from mine it is just the group, not the profile |
| [02:37:45] | Anduin: | (which matches the column header if I bothered looking) |
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| [02:38:21] | JoshT76: | anduin: you think it hasto do with it handles recordings utilizing the [ Any ] channel option? |
| [02:38:37] | JoshT76: | anduin: you think it has to do with they way it handles recordings utilizing the [ Any ] channel option? |
| [02:39:05] | Anduin: | JoshT76: I doubt it, in the recording schedules page you have no entried with a recgroup of Live TV? |
| [02:39:22] | JoshT76: | nope |
| [02:40:36] | Anduin: | I have only a few on any channel rules, but needless to say many people record things back-to-back and don't see it dropped into the wrong group. |
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| [02:41:23] | JoshT76: | i think it has to do with the recording option |
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| [02:43:21] | JoshT76: | any one know of any good how to's on securing mythweb? |
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| [02:47:54] | Anduin: | JoshT76: There is some basic htdigest stuff in the .htaccess file |
| [02:49:01] | JoshT76: | i found this http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Securing_MythWeb but it did not work for me, it prompts for the UN/PW but it doesn;t go through |
| [02:57:46] | JoshT76: | you running .20? |
| [02:58:19] | Anduin: | Yes |
| [02:58:30] | JoshT76: | did you get mytharchive to comile with the plugins? |
| [02:58:39] | JoshT76: | compile |
| [02:58:44] | Anduin: | I don't use it |
| [02:58:48] | JoshT76: | k |
| [02:58:57] | JoshT76: | you stream you shows? |
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| [02:59:56] | Anduin: | JoshT76: Not, I have frontends (and an Samba share if they cannot be used) |
| [03:00:42] | JoshT76: | yah but i need to transcode because i watch them when i'm away from home |
| [03:01:03] | JoshT76: | and i only have 1 meg upload |
| [03:01:22] | Speedy2: | Anduin: Thanks for the info. |
| [03:01:53] | kslater: | if a machine has hardware decoding of mpeg2 (viaXvMC) is it reasonable to assume that it might be able to decode a 720i hd recording? |
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| [03:06:38] | cesman: | kslater: if the machine had a UnichromePro it would be more reasonable |
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| [03:12:36] | lotia: | folks anyone using xrandr support |
| [03:15:35] | JoshT76: | anduin: can you help me with the digest? |
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| [03:17:17] | opello: | JoshT76: why not just use htpasswd? |
| [03:17:37] | JoshT76: | i tried, i can;t get it to go |
| [03:17:57] | opello: | errors, other than just '500' or in the apache error_log? |
| [03:18:44] | JoshT76: | where does it store the log? i will look into it |
| [03:19:42] | opello: | it varies, check your apache config for the ErrorLog location |
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| [03:21:00] | JoshT76: | right on |
| [03:21:41] | opello: | if it's not an absolute path, it will be relative to the path specified in ServerRoot in the same config file |
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| [03:25:57] | J-e-f-f-A: | kslater: I can decode 1080i on a 1Ghz PIII w/512mb ram using XVMC (barely!) |
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| [03:28:47] | ** scottder needs to look into a HD card and OTA encoding ** | |
| [03:29:01] | JoshT76: | what is a good hd card for directv? |
| [03:29:13] | scottder: | Cox can't seem to get there crap together and get the local Fox and CBS affiliates in HD |
| [03:29:36] | J-e-f-f-A: | JoshT76: I don't think you can capture HD from US Sattelite yet. |
| [03:29:57] | J-e-f-f-A: | JoshT76: Unless they now have a firewire-enabled box that doesn't encrypt the firewire output... |
| [03:30:51] | scottder: | Whats a good card for the OTA? |
| [03:30:54] | JoshT76: | you couldn't go from the STB into the capture card after it is decrypted? |
| [03:31:07] | JoshT76: | just asking, i'm not inthe HD world yet |
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| [03:32:15] | J-e-f-f-A: | JoshT76: There aren't any HD capture cards yet (that I know of anyways), IE: there isn't a card yet that has component inputs... But you can capture HD with a Firewire-enabled HD cable box. (Only the un-encrypted stuff) |
| [03:33:04] | lotia: | anyone familiar with xrandr? |
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| [03:33:42] | JoshT76: | what about this? http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=34318 |
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| [03:35:00] | opello: | JoshT76: get your basic authentication figured out? |
| [03:35:07] | JoshT76: | oh ok i see the hdcp thing now that's the hold up |
| [03:35:19] | JoshT76: | no, i get close but never get the desired result |
| [03:35:22] | opello: | ah |
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| [03:35:35] | opello: | i've always found it pretty trivial, but oh well |
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| [03:36:52] | Fnc: | so if anyone was wondering what my problem was last night, a blinking hdd and no post, in my situation anyway... means bad PS |
| [03:36:57] | J-e-f-f-A: | JoshT76: Well, that's HDMI, but it doesn't say if it handles encrypted stuff... If you've got the cash, and it's available, buy it before it's yanked off the market! |
| [03:37:25] | J-e-f-f-A: | Fnc: Yeah, I've seen that on a friend's pc once. |
| [03:37:38] | Fnc: | whish you were around last night |
| [03:37:59] | Fnc: | you know how hard it is to get a ps from pc hooked into another one, without removin it ;) |
| [03:38:03] | J-e-f-f-A: | Fnc: I was for a while, but apparently not while you were here... ;-) |
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| [03:38:12] | Fnc: | heh |
| [03:38:54] | Erroneous: | I'm having a problem with my sound and I'm not sure what it is |
| [03:39:01] | Fnc: | got to try and find a decent priced somewhat quiet one locally tmo |
| [03:40:07] | J-e-f-f-A: | Fnc: Yeah, I'd recommend not getting the cheapest one though... Your best bet (imho) is to pay a bit extra for an Antec – I've had too many cheapies die an early death... |
| [03:40:14] | JoshT76: | <Directory "/var/www/html/mythweb"> |
| [03:40:14] | JoshT76: | Options Indexes FollowSymLinks |
| [03:40:14] | JoshT76: | AuthType Basic |
| [03:40:14] | JoshT76: | AuthName "MythTV" |
| [03:40:14] | JoshT76: | AuthUserFile /usr/local/sbin/httpd-passwords |
| [03:40:15] | JoshT76: | require user MYUSER1 MYUSER2 MYUSER3 |
| [03:40:17] | JoshT76: | Order allow,deny |
| [03:40:19] | JoshT76: | Allow from all |
| [03:40:21] | JoshT76: | </Directory> |
| [03:40:31] | JoshT76: | does that look right for httpd.conf or .htaccess in mythweb? |
| [03:41:10] | Erroneous: | when I watch TV or recordings it sounds really bad (tinny). I am using analog, not s/pidf, it sounds fine when I aplay /dev/dsp and when I unmute line in, so that probably means my problem comes in mythtv itself |
| [03:41:16] | Fnc: | the one i have is err was a seasonic |
| [03:41:24] | Fnc: | decent priced i mean 70 or so |
| [03:42:35] | J-e-f-f-A: | Fnc: Are you in the US? |
| [03:42:42] | Fnc: | yup |
| [03:42:44] | Fnc: | tx |
| [03:43:04] | J-e-f-f-A: | Fnc: How big of a ps do you need? |
| [03:44:04] | Fnc: | im thinkin 400 or so |
| [03:44:20] | Fnc: | not too sure there |
| [03:44:37] | J-e-f-f-A: | Fnc: How many hdd's, What's your cpu? |
| [03:44:49] | J-e-f-f-A: | Fnc: And how many pci cards... |
| [03:45:16] | Fnc: | amd 64 3800 i think |
| [03:45:28] | Fnc: | lots of pci like 5 |
| [03:45:29] | CCFL_Man_: | http://www.nextcomwireless.com/r5000/products.htm |
| [03:45:40] | Fnc: | 3hdd now |
| [03:45:46] | Fnc: | maybe more |
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| [03:46:19] | J-e-f-f-A: | Fnc: Then that's probably what killed your PS. You'll probably want a high-quality 450 or 500w supply. Especially if it's your backend server, you want it to be reliable! |
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| [03:46:43] | Fnc: | seasonics are highly rated |
| [03:46:59] | JoshT76: | i just screwed up royally! |
| [03:47:02] | Fnc: | thought it was a 450 |
| [03:47:13] | J-e-f-f-A: | Fnc: Personally, I know that Antec is kinda pricy, but it's a great supply. I bought mine when they were on sale and/or had rebates offered at CompUSA. |
| [03:47:37] | J-e-f-f-A: | JoshT76: What happened? Did you delete all your recordings with an "rm -S" command like I did one day by accident?!? |
| [03:48:18] | JoshT76: | worse... i thought i was in /var/log/apache2 when i issued a "rm -r *" command |
| [03:48:45] | J-e-f-f-A: | JoshT76: And where were you? :-O |
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| [03:48:54] | JoshT76: | ummm / |
| [03:48:57] | JoshT76: | lol |
| [03:48:59] | J-e-f-f-A: | ouch. |
| [03:49:03] | JoshT76: | rebuild time |
| [03:49:11] | Fnc: | how much are those jeffa |
| [03:49:15] | J-e-f-f-A: | undelete -all ?!? (Not!) |
| [03:49:20] | JoshT76: | haha i wish |
| [03:49:37] | JoshT76: | luckily it only takes about an hour to buildit back up to where i had it |
| [03:49:59] | JoshT76: | i will just have to get a few shows from newsgroups ;-) |
| [03:50:15] | J-e-f-f-A: | JoshT76: I had a similar experience about 6 months ago — I was setting up a script to create symbolic links to myth's .mpg files for a network media player, and issued the RM command to follow the symbolic links by accident... oops, all programs gone in 5 seconds! |
| [03:50:21] | Fnc: | http://www.endpcnoise.com/cgi-bin/e/std/categ . . . upplies.html |
| [03:50:45] | JoshT76: | well time to start the rebuild, any suggestions? LOL!!! |
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| [03:51:02] | JoshT76: | you guys run knoppmyth or ??? what? |
| [03:51:05] | J-e-f-f-A: | Fnc: I think I paid $50 for my 400w Antec after rebate. I think they normally go for about $70 or so... |
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| [03:51:19] | Fnc: | dont think i want spend that kind of money on a phantom.. but would be nice |
| [03:51:29] | J-e-f-f-A: | JoshT76: Nope, FC4 with myth from RPM's here. Just built a "MythDora" frontend too. |
| [03:51:48] | Fnc: | knoppmyth is good to start with |
| [03:52:11] | J-e-f-f-A: | JoshT76: I tried KnoppMyth a couple of times, but it just didn't like my hardware for some reason --always stuttering with "Prebuffering Pause"... FC4 has been perfect... |
| [03:52:16] | JoshT76: | i was using ubuntu and comiled myth from svn |
| [03:52:33] | JoshT76: | power supply person: http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.j . . . tCode=373060 |
| [03:52:41] | Fnc: | J-e-f-f-A that on a dvb card? |
| [03:53:00] | ** J-e-f-f-A needs to build his new .20 backend from source to learn the ins&outs of compiling in Linux... ;-) ** | |
| [03:53:22] | JoshT76: | good luck, it is definately a learning process |
| [03:53:23] | J-e-f-f-A: | Fnc: Nope, even on SD stuff. That's what blew my mind... |
| [03:54:06] | J-e-f-f-A: | Fnc: MythDora worked perfectly out of the box... Even on a PIII 800 w/512mb, Nvida GF4. |
| [03:54:33] | Fnc: | havent played with mythdora.. whill have to check it out for a fe one of these days |
| [03:54:43] | J-e-f-f-A: | Fnc: Now I'm trying to setup that box to do netbooting so I don't need a HDD in there. I gutted a broken Magnavox VCR, and crammed the system in there... ;-) |
| [03:54:45] | Fnc: | running fc5 on my backend |
| [03:54:56] | Fnc: | cool |
| [03:54:58] | JoshT76: | any of you tried gbpvr? |
| [03:55:12] | Fnc: | i want to get some of them boxen greyfoxx uses |
| [03:55:31] | J-e-f-f-A: | Fnc: I haven't jumped to FC5 or .20 yet — I'm of the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" crowd... at least for stuff I don't understand 100% yet! |
| [03:55:59] | Fnc: | .20 was an easy upgrade |
| [03:56:13] | JoshT76: | err install for me now...haha |
| [03:56:15] | Fnc: | fc4 to fc5 wasnt so easy went the dvd route... |
| [03:56:27] | J-e-f-f-A: | Fnc: I've also got an XBox I use as a SD frontend. Only paid $60 for it from a friend, so I can't complain much! It's a tad slow, given that it's only got a Celeron 733 and 64mb Ram, but it is a full-featured frontend. |
| [03:56:46] | Fnc: | and my yum stuff was wacked... so i restarted.. no biggie didnt take to long |
| [03:56:50] | Fnc: | got the xbox too |
| [03:56:52] | Fnc: | ;) |
| [03:57:01] | Fnc: | havent updated it to .20 yet... |
| [03:57:18] | Fnc: | i thought about doing the power on mod to the Xbox |
| [03:57:19] | J-e-f-f-A: | JoshT76: Nope, haven't tried 'gbpvr'. I'm hooked on Myth... Why try anything else?!? ;-) |
| [03:57:47] | J-e-f-f-A: | Fnc: to turn it on via the remote? |
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| [03:57:53] | Fnc: | yup |
| [03:57:55] | Fnc: | the xbox |
| [03:58:02] | J-e-f-f-A: | Fnc: Do you have a link for that? |
| [03:59:04] | Fnc: | lookin |
| [03:59:26] | J-e-f-f-A: | Fnc: I just found out the other night that there was a company modding xboxes with 1.4Ghz cpus and doubling the ram to 128mb – for about $100. And then it will play HD... But they don't do it anymore... (Bummer!) |
| [03:59:31] | Fnc: | http://www.xbox-scene.com/articles/xir.php |
| [03:59:40] | timmy334: | should I use the 0.20 or svn version of MythTV? I have a dedicated box in my living room and I just want it to work and be stable |
| [03:59:46] | Fnc: | i think theres another one though let me keep looking |
| [03:59:47] | J-e-f-f-A: | Fnc: Thanks! ; -) |
| [04:00:11] | CCFL_Man_: | J-e-f-f-A: where did you find that out? |
| [04:00:11] | Fnc: | J-e-f-f-A: ive seen the mods for the memory but not the cpu |
| [04:00:20] | Fnc: | thats prolly a lot of small soldering though |
| [04:00:58] | Fnc: | someone sells a kit thoguh |
| [04:01:20] | Fnc: | http://www.bmmods.com/customer/product.php?productid=16215 |
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| [04:03:48] | Erroneous: | so would anyone help me with my tinny sound problem? I've looked all over the wiki, forums, google, etc and can't seem to find a solution |
| [04:04:04] | regicide666: | with what? |
| [04:04:16] | regicide666: | whats the problem |
| [04:04:18] | Erroneous: | when I watch TV or recordings it sounds really bad (tinny). I am using analog, not s/pidf, it sounds fine when I aplay /dev/dsp and when I unmute line in, so that probably means my problem comes in mythtv itself |
| [04:05:01] | Erroneous: | or that mythtv has problems decoding my /dev/dsp while aplay does not |
| [04:05:02] | regicide666: | what card? |
| [04:05:13] | Erroneous: | ATI TV Wonder Pro |
| [04:05:38] | regicide666: | do you have to use a cable to get audio into your sound card? |
| [04:05:45] | Erroneous: | I had it working in knoppmyth, but wanted mythtv .20 and to run in 64bit |
| [04:05:49] | Erroneous: | yes |
| [04:05:52] | J-e-f-f-A: | Fnc: Yeah, they're using a microcontroller to receive and decode the remote keypress, then 'pressing' the power button electronically. |
| [04:06:23] | regicide666: | have you tried turning down the capture in alsamixer |
| [04:06:42] | Erroneous: | I haven't turned it down...lemme try |
| [04:06:50] | regicide666: | I have never used that card |
| [04:07:04] | regicide666: | but I had an old hauppauge like that |
| [04:07:23] | J-e-f-f-A: | Fnc: Anyways, I've gotta crash... it's after midnight and I'm supposed to be on a conf call at 6:30am... (YUCK!)... ttyl... And THANKS for the links. |
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| [04:08:42] | regicide666: | erroneous, I recomend a new card |
| [04:08:43] | Erroneous: | regicide666, still does it. I have it on 7/100 |
| [04:08:58] | Erroneous: | regicide666, it worked fine 2 days ago |
| [04:09:24] | Erroneous: | but that was on knoppmyth, not Archlinux x86_64 |
| [04:10:25] | regicide666: | I am not sure what the problem could be then. There may be a problem with the 64 bit drivers |
| [04:11:03] | Erroneous: | that would be my guess. A problem with alsa-oss drivers |
| [04:11:09] | regicide666: | I really do not ahve any idea about the ati cards |
| [04:11:21] | Erroneous: | well it isn't the card so much |
| [04:11:29] | Fnc: | J-e-f-f-A: check this |
| [04:11:30] | Fnc: | http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/friendtech_dreamx_xbox/ |
| [04:11:44] | Erroneous: | because it sounds great when I unmute line in and say watch it in tvtime |
| [04:12:17] | regicide666: | why oss |
| [04:12:46] | Erroneous: | that is what the /dev/dsp device is, isn't it? |
| [04:12:57] | RyeBrye: | How can I fix certain themes that don't have the text of menus showing up? |
| [04:14:41] | regicide666: | so what is your audio output device in mythtv settings |
| [04:15:05] | Erroneous: | /dev/dsp. Same thing happens if I change it to /dev/adsp |
| [04:15:40] | regicide666: | what about setting it to ALSA:default |
| [04:15:52] | regicide666: | for audio output device |
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| [04:17:07] | Erroneous: | you mean for the passthrough device? |
| [04:18:21] | JoshT76: | anudin: still here? |
| [04:18:47] | JoshT76: | excuse me anduin |
| [04:19:00] | regicide666: | no not passthrough |
| [04:20:05] | Erroneous: | it has to be a physical file, doesn't it? |
| [04:20:05] | CCFL_Man_: | http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php . . . #post8592175 <---anyone care to answer that post? |
| [04:20:24] | regicide666: | no |
| [04:20:44] | regicide666: | my setting is ALSA:default |
| [04:20:57] | regicide666: | and I think I had to set it that way |
| [04:22:02] | regicide666: | and with that set mixer to default also |
| [04:22:45] | Erroneous: | set the mixer to ALSA:default? |
| [04:22:55] | regicide666: | no just default |
| [04:23:45] | Erroneous: | yeah...still doing ti |
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| [04:30:27] | slide: | Where are the mythtv live streams held? |
| [04:32:49] | xris: | slide: live streams? |
| [04:32:58] | xris: | you mean livetv recordings? same place as normal recordings. |
| [04:33:07] | slide: | yes |
| [04:33:09] | slide: | hrm |
| [04:33:32] | xris: | ? |
| [04:33:38] | regicide666: | it has to do with where you tell it to store them |
| [04:33:51] | Mersault: | i recently had to revert to a four day old copy of my database, so I assume I have some recordings on my disc that aren't in the database. how can i clean them out? |
| [04:33:56] | slide: | How do i see where it is storing them? |
| [04:34:12] | xris: | Mersault: myth_rebuilddb.pl (or something like that) in contrib |
| [04:34:24] | xris: | slide: it stores them right next to all of the other recordings. |
| [04:34:36] | slide: | well, where is that |
| [04:34:58] | xris: | slide: wherever you told it to put them when you configured mythtv. |
| [04:35:50] | Mersault: | xris: thanks, although it failed at line 55 |
| [04:36:03] | Mersault: | an't locate Time/Format.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.7 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at myth.rebuilddatabase.pl line 55. |
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| [04:43:07] | DIrEctQL: | hey, does anyone know if I can get atsc broadcast through like component connection or s-video? |
| [04:43:33] | CCFL_Man_: | why not? |
| [04:44:06] | DIrEctQL: | not sure |
| [04:44:12] | DIrEctQL: | how is the atsc signal sent |
| [04:44:34] | CCFL_Man_: | i want to get my xbox modded for 1.48GHz but the adapter you need custom made and is bga |
| [04:44:43] | CCFL_Man_: | through a transport stream |
| [04:44:52] | CCFL_Man_: | ATSC transport stream |
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| [04:46:57] | DIrEctQL: | i was wondering if i buy an atsc tuner |
| [04:47:05] | DIrEctQL: | and connect my cable box to it |
| [04:47:09] | DIrEctQL: | i should get atsc on it |
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| [04:50:25] | regicide666: | bga? |
| [04:50:48] | regicide666: | DIrEctQL, no |
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| [04:57:13] | DIrEctQL: | why not? |
| [04:57:27] | DIrEctQL: | my has a built in ATSC tuner |
| [04:57:33] | DIrEctQL: | and seems like it's getting the ATSC signal |
| [04:57:38] | DIrEctQL: | 1080i |
| [04:57:42] | DIrEctQL: | from the cable box |
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| [05:02:18] | regicide666: | how |
| [05:02:33] | JoshT76: | you guys run ubuntu? |
| [05:02:35] | regicide666: | the cable off the box should be sd |
| [05:03:04] | regicide666: | and your ATSC tuner should not get that |
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| [05:04:07] | JoshT76: | i wonder how people record the HD shows they upload to newsgroups??? |
| [05:05:08] | regicide666: | I record HD shows |
| [05:05:18] | regicide666: | with an HD tuner card |
| [05:05:27] | JoshT76: | with mythtv? |
| [05:05:39] | regicide666: | yes |
| [05:05:48] | JoshT76: | cool |
| [05:05:55] | JoshT76: | looks good i bet |
| [05:06:10] | regicide666: | looks great |
| [05:06:18] | DIrEctQL: | hmm |
| [05:06:20] | DIrEctQL: | ok |
| [05:06:23] | JoshT76: | i can;t afford hd yet |
| [05:06:39] | DIrEctQL: | i have an HD cable box |
| [05:06:48] | regicide666: | I do also |
| [05:06:50] | JoshT76: | so you are recording HD OTA? |
| [05:06:54] | opello: | a lot of the newsgroup posts are from tivos too |
| [05:06:57] | regicide666: | yes |
| [05:07:16] | DIrEctQL: | so how do you explain that my tv shows atsc broadcasts |
| [05:07:25] | DIrEctQL: | from the cable box |
| [05:07:37] | xris: | opello: except that only the brand spanking new tivo can record HD |
| [05:07:48] | DIrEctQL: | i think the hd cable box must be broadcasting atsc signal to the tv |
| [05:07:49] | DIrEctQL: | no? |
| [05:07:57] | regicide666: | how is it hooked up |
| [05:08:05] | xris: | DIrEctQL: not unless you're connecting the cable box via the rf connector |
| [05:08:15] | opello: | xris: ah, i guess i didn't know you were talking exclusively hd posts — sorry |
| [05:08:23] | DIrEctQL: | the 5 component cables |
| [05:08:27] | xris: | opello: I wasn't. just jumped in. |
| [05:08:32] | opello: | same, heh |
| [05:08:39] | xris: | DIrEctQL: then it's transmitting a component signal.. analog HD. |
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| [05:08:58] | xris: | you're much better off with hdmi or dvi and getting an actual digital signal |
| [05:08:59] | regicide666: | because you are using componet |
| [05:08:59] | DIrEctQL: | i see |
| [05:09:27] | regicide666: | how many pc cards have that input |
| [05:09:38] | DIrEctQL: | man, i really want to get HDTV on my mythtv |
| [05:09:46] | JoshT76: | what TV do you have? |
| [05:09:53] | xris: | DIrEctQL: are you in the US? |
| [05:09:55] | DIrEctQL: | yes |
| [05:10:03] | DIrEctQL: | but it's not that I want to see it |
| [05:10:03] | xris: | DIrEctQL: does your cable box have a firewire port? |
| [05:10:05] | DIrEctQL: | i want to record it |
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| [05:10:19] | DIrEctQL: | yes, but it doesn't work |
| [05:10:25] | DIrEctQL: | i can change the channels |
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| [05:10:29] | DIrEctQL: | but can't get the video |
| [05:10:32] | regicide666: | I record hd from ota and from firewire from my cable box |
| [05:10:40] | xris: | DIrEctQL: then tell your cableco to enable it for you. FCC requires that they do. |
| [05:10:51] | DIrEctQL: | enable? |
| [05:11:00] | DIrEctQL: | is it disabled? |
| [05:11:17] | xris: | DIrEctQL: yuou just said it was. |
| [05:11:27] | DIrEctQL: | not sure |
| [05:11:37] | DIrEctQL: | i'm new to firewire |
| [05:11:49] | regicide666: | I have not gotten my cable box to work with myth over firewire but I can capture video that it has over firewire |
| [05:11:54] | DIrEctQL: | i saw some docs saying that firewire is not very reliabile |
| [05:12:02] | xris: | DIrEctQL: read the firewire section here: |
| [05:12:04] | xris: | http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php |
| [05:12:11] | xris: | it should be relatively distro agnostic. |
| [05:12:17] | DIrEctQL: | yeah |
| [05:12:25] | DIrEctQL: | i saw that already |
| [05:12:40] | xris: | and latest changes in svn (and even many in .20) fix a lot of problems with reliability... and it wasn't that bad before. certainly no worse than my IR blaster was. |
| [05:13:02] | DIrEctQL: | well, changing channel works |
| [05:13:06] | DIrEctQL: | it's just the video problem |
| [05:13:12] | regicide666: | my HD box is a dvr so if I record it on that I can then get it to my mythbox over firewire but I have not been able to get myth to use it |
| [05:13:31] | xris: | DIrEctQL: how do you know that you're changing channels unless you're also getting video? |
| [05:13:38] | DIrEctQL: | heh |
| [05:13:51] | DIrEctQL: | you know the cable box generally displays the channel |
| [05:13:51] | DIrEctQL: | :) |
| [05:14:03] | regicide666: | DIrEctQL, is not using firewire |
| [05:14:23] | xris: | DIrEctQL: good point... so have you actually followed the testing instructions on that URL I gave you? |
| [05:14:25] | DIrEctQL: | also, i got it to work via component |
| [05:14:29] | DIrEctQL: | yes |
| [05:14:31] | DIrEctQL: | and more |
| [05:14:38] | xris: | and you get an empty test.mpg? |
| [05:15:00] | DIrEctQL: | another document said that aigre firewire adapters provide unreliable video |
| [05:15:03] | DIrEctQL: | yes |
| [05:15:13] | DIrEctQL: | i tried the prime script also |
| [05:15:17] | DIrEctQL: | to prime the firewire connection |
| [05:15:18] | DIrEctQL: | nothing |
| [05:15:22] | regicide666: | what model is your cable box |
| [05:15:27] | xris: | DIrEctQL: might be your firewire adapter. I've heard stuff about some cards being weird that way |
| [05:15:27] | DIrEctQL: | 6200 |
| [05:15:37] | DIrEctQL: | i compiled the 6200ch program |
| [05:15:47] | DIrEctQL: | yeah |
| [05:15:51] | DIrEctQL: | i am thinking that too |
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| [05:16:00] | DIrEctQL: | i would think that comcast has firewire ports enabled fine |
| [05:16:05] | DIrEctQL: | on the cable box |
| [05:16:15] | xris: | DIrEctQL: some do, some don't. comcast is a franchise, depends on your local office. |
| [05:16:20] | DIrEctQL: | but i also heard that i wouldn't get any encrypted channels |
| [05:16:23] | DIrEctQL: | like cinemax |
| [05:16:34] | regicide666: | true |
| [05:16:38] | xris: | DIrEctQL: correct. by law they're only required to provide the local OTA channels |
| [05:17:01] | xris: | some people like me get just about everything. others only get the local channels. |
| [05:17:11] | xris: | and by everything, I mean everything I pay for. |
| [05:17:12] | DIrEctQL: | see, i just want to record HDTV from the cable box |
| [05:17:31] | DIrEctQL: | heh, yeah |
| [05:17:35] | xris: | have you tried local channels, or only cable channels? |
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| [05:17:54] | DIrEctQL: | well, i had analog cable for some time, with pvr500 dual tuner |
| [05:18:03] | DIrEctQL: | so i just got the 6200 cable box |
| [05:18:04] | xris: | no. with the firewire. |
| [05:18:07] | DIrEctQL: | and upgraded to digital |
| [05:18:18] | Freman: | Hey guys, I know that nuvexport isn't exactly supported software, but... I've got a wee problem with it, I've got it outputting 16:9 (that's right isn't it?) but it's still putting black bars on top (as a result the picture is squished flat) |
| [05:18:20] | DIrEctQL: | no, i got no video, no channels via firewire |
| [05:18:35] | DIrEctQL: | i can only get it to change channels |
| [05:18:35] | Freman: | http://hotbox.fremnet.net/snapshot4.png <- that screenshot should look more like -> http://hotbox.fremnet.net/snapshot5.png |
| [05:19:18] | Freman: | Anyone know where I might be going a little wrong? |
| [05:19:22] | xris: | Freman: depends on the export module. I don't think I've actually fixed anything to NOT put bars on things. |
| [05:19:41] | DIrEctQL: | so there is such a thing as analog HD? |
| [05:19:47] | DIrEctQL: | via component cables? |
| [05:20:42] | xris: | DIrEctQL: yes |
| [05:21:01] | xris: | component tv is analog, and supports an HD signal. |
| [05:21:02] | Freman: | So there's no way to get my 16:9 to output properly for dvd? |
| [05:21:19] | xris: | Freman: for dvd output, you should be using mytharchive, not nuvexport |
| [05:21:30] | Freman: | I'm still on 0.19 |
| [05:22:05] | DIrEctQL: | what do you mean supports HD signal |
| [05:22:08] | DIrEctQL: | you mean ATSC? |
| [05:22:29] | xris: | DIrEctQL: no, atsc is broadcast. component is a direct connection. |
| [05:23:08] | DIrEctQL: | so is NTSC |
| [05:23:11] | DIrEctQL: | no? |
| [05:23:30] | xris: | Freman: I'd recommend the upgrade. other than that, you might be able to bug Beirdo to update the dvd stuff in nuvexport, or wait ages for me to get around to it (I'm busy working on porting it to the perl api built into .20 and later). |
| [05:23:40] | xris: | either way, you'd have to upgrade to mythtv .20 to take advantage. |
| [05:23:43] | xris: | DIrEctQL: correct |
| [05:23:45] | xris: | sort of |
| [05:24:01] | DIrEctQL: | isn't the cable box broadcast NTSC? |
| [05:24:11] | DIrEctQL: | why wouldn't it be able to do ATSC |
| [05:24:17] | Freman: | yeh, I've been putting it off, I've never had a successful upgrade. |
| [05:24:24] | Freman: | there shouldn't be anything recording tonight, I'll try it |
| [05:24:30] | xris: | DIrEctQL: pretty sure ntsc refers to two things — the broadcast standard and the frame standards. |
| [05:24:51] | DIrEctQL: | i looked up ATSC |
| [05:24:56] | DIrEctQL: | seems like it does also |
| [05:25:04] | DIrEctQL: | broadcast and different resolutions |
| [05:25:26] | xris: | HD itself is digital. it's an mpeg2 stream sent either over ATSC (ota) or QAM (cable, somehow related to ATSC) or a direct stream over an hdmi port. |
| [05:25:52] | DIrEctQL: | yes |
| [05:26:02] | DIrEctQL: | hmm |
| [05:26:04] | xris: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Component_video |
| [05:27:01] | xris: | the component video input on your tv is analog, and the bandwidth of the signal is capable of displaying most of the hd signal, but it's still analog. |
| [05:27:33] | xris: | it's no more ATSC than the dvi (or vga) connection to your computer monitor, though |
| [05:27:48] | DIrEctQL: | i see |
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| [05:28:29] | DIrEctQL: | any component capture cards u know of? |
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| [05:30:02] | xris: | no |
| [05:30:07] | xris: | as in there aren't any |
| [05:30:23] | xris: | not affordable, anyway. |
| [05:30:26] | xris: | there's no real point |
| [05:30:49] | DIrEctQL: | how so? |
| [05:31:02] | xris: | digital -> analog -> digital sucks. |
| [05:31:19] | xris: | esp. because the cpu/gpu power required to recompress an HD signal is enormous. |
| [05:31:51] | xris: | Freman: quick glance at the nuvexport code looks like it *should* be working properly. hard to say for you, though, since you're running an old version. |
| [05:31:55] | DIrEctQL: | how do people record hdtv shows? |
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| [05:32:26] | DIrEctQL: | i see xvid recordings in widescreen format |
| [05:32:30] | xris: | DIrEctQL: atsc tuner card or firewire |
| [05:32:44] | xris: | or illegal methods |
| [05:32:55] | DIrEctQL: | illegal methods? |
| [05:33:02] | xris: | DIrEctQL: like hacking satellite signals. |
| [05:33:06] | DIrEctQL: | i se |
| [05:33:50] | DIrEctQL: | how well does qam work with comcast? |
| [05:33:58] | xris: | no clue. firewire works perfectly for me. |
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| [05:34:13] | DIrEctQL: | what firewire adapter do you have? |
| [05:34:17] | xris: | and again, it depends on where you are. comcast is a franchise. each local office is owned/operated by a separate company |
| [05:34:27] | DIrEctQL: | yep |
| [05:34:31] | xris: | DIrEctQL: built into my pundit, and some random pci card. both ports work. |
| [05:34:44] | DIrEctQL: | what chipset? |
| [05:34:48] | Freman: | Would it help if I manually set the source dimensions? |
| [05:35:46] | xris: | Freman: honestly I don't know. You might be able to take everything from the current nuvexport *except* mythtv/recordings.pm |
| [05:35:52] | xris: | DIrEctQL: no clue |
| [05:36:09] | xris: | one is SiS, the other is NEC |
| [05:36:36] | DIrEctQL: | can you check for me? |
| [05:36:37] | DIrEctQL: | lspci|grep 1394 |
| [05:36:47] | xris: | DIrEctQL: what I just said is all it says |
| [05:37:08] | Freman: | Will mytharchive let me archive 3 episodes of the show to dvd? |
| [05:37:22] | xris: | no clue, I don't use it. |
| [05:37:28] | Freman: | or does it just export the mpeg2 files and leave the rest up to me |
| [05:37:29] | xris: | my recordings go to h.264 |
| [05:37:29] | Freman: | oh ok |
| [05:37:36] | xris: | it does burn the disks for you, though |
| [05:37:56] | Freman: | I'll give mutilating it a go tonight |
| [05:38:22] | Freman: | nuvexport that is (c: |
| [05:38:43] | DIrEctQL: | maybe i should get a nicer more expancive firewire |
| [05:38:56] | DIrEctQL: | i don't understand why some are 80 and some are 30 |
| [05:39:07] | xris: | DIrEctQL: my firewire card cost me $12 5 years ago |
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| [05:39:37] | DIrEctQL: | i am jellous |
| [05:39:44] | xris: | you shouldn't have to pay more than $15 for a firewire card |
| [05:40:19] | xris: | afk |
| [05:40:25] | DIrEctQL: | ya, that's what i get by shopping in best buy |
| [05:40:40] | Speedy2: | Avoid VIA at all costs. |
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| [05:48:40] | ** simcop2387 still can't believe that 0.20 is out :) ** | |
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| [05:54:47] | Speedy2: | Anyone here use Myth with DVB? Just wondering what things like channel chaning time is like |
| [05:55:11] | Freman: | channel changing time on myth 0.19 with a dvico dual tuner is a little slow... |
| [05:55:17] | Freman: | but it happens eventually (c: |
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| [06:08:01] | mimikos: | hi, I am trying to rip a DVD. but when I do I get " title1" title2 etc |
| [06:08:04] | mimikos: | why is that |
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| [06:24:51] | kraut: | moin |
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| [06:25:37] | ** xris wonders what Beirdo was smoking when he wrote this letterboxing code for nuvexport ** | |
| [06:26:28] | Mattwj2005: | what is wrong with it xirs? |
| [06:26:30] | Mattwj2005: | :s |
| [06:26:38] | xris: | something's just not quite right. |
| [06:26:44] | xris: | it forces letter/pillarboxing no matter what. |
| [06:26:58] | Mattwj2005: | weird |
| [06:28:23] | xris: | question is, I'm not entirely sure what would be the best way to fix it. |
| [06:28:26] | Mattwj2005: | I tell you the lastest Knoppmyth has some bugs |
| [06:28:41] | xris: | mainly because I don't know which formats actually support anamorphic encodes and which don't |
| [06:28:45] | Mattwj2005: | hmmm I am not programmer...networking is my game :) |
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| [06:30:03] | xris: | maybe I'm wrong and I *need* to be smoking something. this time I look at the code, things look fine |
| [06:30:18] | ** xris wonders what Freman will say when he upgrades. ** | |
| [06:30:25] | Mattwj2005: | lol |
| [06:30:41] | Mattwj2005: | xris where are you from? |
| [06:31:03] | McDoof: | anyone using usb-uirt? |
| [06:31:03] | McDoof: | i need the lirc patch for it, but once i patch and compile, i get compile errors |
| [06:31:03] | McDoof: | is there a binary? |
| [06:31:05] | xris: | appears that as long as the output aspect ratio is correct (which it hasn't always been in previous nuvexport versions due to mplayer being confused), things should work |
| [06:31:07] | xris: | Mattwj2005: seattle |
| [06:31:12] | Mattwj2005: | oh okay |
| [06:31:21] | Mattwj2005: | Minneapolis myself |
| [06:31:34] | xris: | blech. too cold. ;) |
| [06:32:05] | Mattwj2005: | your city is too rainy ;) |
| [06:32:44] | xris: | huh? I think it's rained for maybe 20 days all year this year |
| [06:32:57] | Speedy2: | Just wondering, what is the channel change time like using 0.20 ? |
| [06:33:28] | ** xris sees the issue. dvd, etc is hard-coded to a 4:3 output aspect ratio ** | |
| [06:33:30] | Mattwj2005: | weird |
| [06:33:31] | xris: | Freman: ^^^^^ |
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| [06:33:36] | Mattwj2005: | I thought you guys were known for your rain |
| [06:33:44] | Mattwj2005: | dry year? |
| [06:33:54] | xris: | Mattwj2005: supposedly. climate change is a bitch. |
| [06:34:05] | Mattwj2005: | it was a dry summer here as well |
| [06:34:06] | xris: | dry couple of years. |
| [06:34:08] | Mattwj2005: | really hot though |
| [06:34:31] | Mattwj2005: | now it is starting to cool off |
| [06:34:51] | xris: | same here. mushroom season is late, though. hopefully will find some edibles (or anything at all) this weekend, though. |
| [06:35:01] | Speedy2: | Anyone? |
| [06:35:11] | Mattwj2005: | Mushrooms? |
| [06:35:15] | Mattwj2005: | really? |
| [06:35:24] | xris: | Speedy2: somewhat of a vague question given that there are at least a dozen different ways to change channels. |
| [06:35:57] | xris: | Mattwj2005: yup. lots of good ones. and a bunch that I don't care for that other people eat, too. |
| [06:36:09] | Speedy2: | Why does the method matter? I'm just wondering you say "go up a channel" how long it takes before you see video. |
| [06:36:09] | Mattwj2005: | interesting |
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| [06:36:23] | Mattwj2005: | I am originally from Wisconsin the dairy state :) |
| [06:37:18] | xris: | Speedy2: well, analog cable is near instantaneous on a pvr-x50 card. slower or faster on software encoded tuners. firewire with direct control is 1–3 seconds per channel, with IR is whatever speed you set your IR pauses to. dvb has -t and -s that likely vary... |
| [06:38:05] | xris: | when I had dishnetwork, it took about 2–3 seconds for the IR blaster to go, and another 3–4 seconds for the dish receiver to actually change the channel itself... |
| [06:38:16] | xris: | so like I said, it depends. |
| [06:38:22] | xris: | Mattwj2005: you must have mushrooms there, too. |
| [06:38:35] | Mattwj2005: | we might |
| [06:38:43] | Mattwj2005: | I guess I never thought about it :) |
| [06:38:47] | Speedy2: | xris: Ok, thanks for the detailed info. I'm thinking about ATSC which supposedly has (hardware) changing times like DVB-T |
| [06:38:59] | xris: | the wild ones are SOO much more interesting than the ones you get in the store, not to mention that they actually taste. |
| [06:39:00] | Mattwj2005: | I spend most of my time in the Metro though |
| [06:39:10] | xris: | Speedy2: all of that depends on the card, not mythtv. |
| [06:39:15] | Speedy2: | Can't you die from eating wild mushrooms? |
| [06:39:17] | Mattwj2005: | the only mushrooms here are either in the grocery store or illegal :P |
| [06:39:22] | xris: | Speedy2: some. |
| [06:39:34] | Speedy2: | Well, how do you tell the poisonous ones from the non-poisonous? |
| [06:40:00] | Speedy2: | xris: With VDR, I'm seeing times in the 2–3 sec range, I just wonder if Myth will be any better or worse. |
| [06:40:11] | xris: | Speedy2: you know what you're looking for. many edibles have nothing toxic that remotely resembles them. others, you don't touch unless you're with an expert. |
| [06:40:23] | Speedy2: | Are you such an expert? |
| [06:40:25] | xris: | Speedy2: likely the same. it's the card's driver that does the changing |
| [06:40:50] | xris: | Speedy2: not for mushrooms. I know how to identify a handful of easy ones and that's more than enough. |
| [06:41:19] | xris: | http://botit.botany.wisc.edu/toms_fungi/aug2001.html |
| [06:41:27] | xris: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matsutake |
| [06:41:56] | xris: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cauliflower_mushroom |
| [06:42:30] | xris: | the second two are two of my favorites. |
| [06:43:09] | xris: | lobster mushrooms don't really taste like much, but are quite chewy to almost crunchy |
| [06:43:30] | mimikos: | shouldn't ripping a DVD give me ONE entry in recordings ? |
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| [06:45:23] | xris: | mimikos: no, it would probably go into videos |
| [06:45:23] | Speedy2: | Does Myth only get CPU hungry when doing intensive work with the database (i.e. updating the TV listing information)? |
| [06:45:40] | xris: | Speedy2: assuming a hardware encoder, that's generally trye |
| [06:45:41] | xris: | true |
| [06:46:18] | mimikos: | xris, yes you are right. I mean I tried to rip a DVD and get "DVD-title" DVD-title1" DVD-title2" |
| [06:46:38] | mimikos: | I was excpecting a single entry "DVD-title" |
| [06:48:03] | xris: | mimikos: depends on the dvd |
| [06:48:16] | xris: | and maybe your settings (I'm not very familiar with the dvd ripper stuff) |
| [06:48:18] | Speedy2: | xris: How well does the commercial detection work for you? |
| [06:48:41] | xris: | depends on the show/channel. |
| [06:48:48] | xris: | anywhere from 80–99% accurate |
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| [06:49:06] | mimikos: | xris. what do you mean by "depends on the dvd" ? |
| [06:49:07] | Speedy2: | xris: If it's inaccurate, does it cut part of the program, or you just get some extra commercial? |
| [06:49:14] | xris: | and the 80% stuff seems to be myth not understanding something about the stream, since it finds the right number of commercials but puts them completely in the wrong pace. |
| [06:49:38] | xris: | mimikos: some dvd's have multiple main tracks — think about a tv show disk with 3–4 episodes on it. |
| [06:49:52] | xris: | Speedy2: both, either, etc. |
| [06:50:06] | Speedy2: | Hrm, it sux that some of the program gets cut :/ |
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| [06:50:35] | Speedy2: | Does it use statistics like assuming a commercial will come within the first x minutes of a show? |
| [06:50:35] | Juski: | I wouldn't go as far as saying it sucks |
| [06:50:47] | Speedy2: | Hey Juski |
| [06:51:08] | Juski: | I'd say 'could be better but hey this is software people write in their own free time' |
| [06:51:26] | Speedy2: | Well, I don't mean it offensively. |
| [06:52:04] | Juski: | it's a great pity that the tv companies don't put flags in the signal to say "and now here are some adverts" and "that's the end of the adverts" :) |
| [06:52:08] | xris: | Speedy2: that's why you always hand-edit. |
| [06:52:19] | Juski: | but that's capitalism for you |
| [06:52:23] | xris: | you learn pretty quickly which shows work and which don't |
| [06:52:49] | Juski: | shows I record from $ky One work absolutely flawlessly with commflagging |
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| [06:53:06] | Juski: | shows from terrestrial commercial stations though... oof |
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| [06:53:44] | Juski: | it's not that much of an inconvenience for me to press 4 then right arrow |
| [06:54:03] | DoofsMC: | hi Juski |
| [06:54:06] | DoofsMC: | do you use satellite? |
| [06:54:45] | Juski: | no, cable |
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| [06:55:10] | Juski: | I'll have to be six foot under before I give Murdoch any money |
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| [06:55:28] | Mattwj2005: | I would love to DVB-S |
| [06:56:56] | Juski: | that said, my love of my cable tv isn't never ending, infact my opinion of NTL has gone down a lot since they 'upgraded' my STB slowing the channel changes down (and general response time of the box) and renumbered all the channels |
| [06:57:22] | Mattwj2005: | Juski.... |
| [06:57:37] | Mattwj2005: | I find that HDTV is better over rabbit ears than my cable |
| [06:57:51] | Mattwj2005: | have you found that as well? |
| [06:58:05] | Juski: | HDTV? what's that? we don't yet have HDTV which'd work with Mythtv in the UK yet |
| [06:58:14] | Mattwj2005: | oh yeah |
| [06:58:23] | Mattwj2005: | I forgot your in the UK :) |
| [06:58:28] | DoofsMC: | anyoone using an ir blaster? |
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| [06:59:00] | Mattwj2005: | do you have have DVB-T? |
| [06:59:20] | DoofsMC: | how do i tell myth to use my ir blaster? |
| [06:59:36] | Juski: | HDTV on satellite is either broadcast with DVB-S2 or it's subscription-only locked into a propriatary box. HDTV on terrestrial isn't everywhere yet but the UK trials are using H.264 which is a bitch to decode |
| [07:00:02] | Juski: | DoofsMC: with the 'use external channel change script' option in mythtv-setup of course |
| [07:00:12] | Mattwj2005: | oh i see |
| [07:00:44] | Agrajag-: | Juski: what's HDTV defined as? in .au we have dvb-t in both sd and hd, but i dont know if our hd dvb is the same as what you're calling hdtv |
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| [07:00:48] | Juski: | when I said 'a bitch' I mean that people with dual 3Ghz CPUs have difficulty |
| [07:01:14] | Mattwj2005: | well I say HDTV I am including all digital TV |
| [07:01:25] | Mattwj2005: | SDTV, EDTV, or HDTV |
| [07:01:38] | Agrajag-: | that's what i would've thought |
| [07:01:46] | Mattwj2005: | actually in some ways SDTV is better than HDTV |
| [07:01:47] | Juski: | Agrajag-: HD on DVB-T in Australia is just mpeg2 HD IIRC, same as in the US but a different transmission scheme |
| [07:02:05] | Agrajag-: | yeah it is mpeg2 hd. hmm ok. |
| [07:02:18] | Juski: | we can't have that in the UK because of bandwidth constraints |
| [07:02:22] | Mattwj2005: | our public TV channel here in Minneapolis has 5 subchannels which means more free programming |
| [07:02:33] | Juski: | so it's likely going to be h.264 |
| [07:02:49] | Mattwj2005: | how many MHz is a channel? |
| [07:02:56] | RaYmAn-Bx: | Juski: I guess linux/myth doesn't support acceleration of that yet? :( |
| [07:02:57] | Mattwj2005: | in the US it is 6 Mhz |
| [07:03:05] | Juski: | with digital you don't have 'channels' anymore |
| [07:03:20] | Mattwj2005: | ? |
| [07:03:26] | Juski: | RaYmAn-Bx: nope. not til nvidia or ATI get their fingers out |
| [07:03:31] | Mattwj2005: | transports? |
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| [07:03:42] | Juski: | yes transports.. containing streams |
| [07:04:07] | Mattwj2005: | well how many Mhz for a transport? |
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| [07:04:21] | Mattwj2005: | when I said channel I was referring to analog ;) |
| [07:04:22] | Juski: | in the UK, 8Mhz. In Australia, 7Mhz |
| [07:04:31] | slaine_: | Anyone know if you can get an Intel Core Solo to be passively cooled ? |
| [07:04:38] | Mattwj2005: | 8 nice....more bandwidth :) |
| [07:04:48] | Juski: | slaine_: tried any htpc forums? they'd know |
| [07:05:04] | slaine_: | I've poked around, but not seriously |
| [07:05:16] | slaine_: | Was just wondering if anyone here had gone that route |
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| [07:05:41] | slaine_: | My current setup was more a proof of concept for my wife |
| [07:05:49] | poutine: | Hello does anyone have a way to use the serial port on a pioneer digital cable or satellite box for IR? |
| [07:05:50] | DoofsMC: | anyone using an ir blaster? |
| [07:05:53] | DoofsMC: | how do i tell myth to use it? |
| [07:06:08] | poutine: | or someone who knows the pinout of the port |
| [07:06:10] | Juski: | Mattwj2005: the analogue 'channels' were always 8Mhz bandwidth, enough room for 6Mhz of video (Vestigal sideband – like AM with half the sidebands suppressed), FM audio & NICAM (QPSK) |
| [07:06:17] | slaine_: | Didn't really invest in any hardware other than the PVR-500 card, the rest of the systems was spare parts |
| [07:06:19] | RaYmAn-Bx: | DoofsMC: you have already gotten an answer. |
| [07:06:26] | slaine_: | So it's a little too noisey |
| [07:06:38] | DoofsMC: | Juski, oh i see |
| [07:06:49] | DoofsMC: | Juski, do i need to use channel.pl? |
| [07:07:00] | Juski: | slaine_: stock coolers are always noisy |
| [07:07:14] | Juski: | DoofsMC: you need to use A channel changer script, yes |
| [07:07:27] | Speedy2: | slaine_: I don't think you cuold passively cool it without a huge heatsink. I'm using a Pentium-M which is a lot like a core solo, and no go on passive. |
| [07:07:42] | slaine_: | what I have atm is an Epai MII 1.2GHz, I replaced the CPU fan so it's quiet, but the case fan is noisey |
| [07:07:44] | DoofsMC: | are they specific? |
| [07:07:57] | slaine_: | But in the long run, I don't plan on keeping either the case or the EPIA |
| [07:07:59] | Juski: | if you can't go passive the key to quietness is a huge heatsink & as big a fan as you can get |
| [07:08:03] | Mattwj2005: | Juski I meant more bandwidth than the US where it is 6 Mhz :) |
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| [07:08:16] | RaYmAn-Bx: | Speedy2: if you use the automatic speed-changing you can have the cpu fan off most of the time on a Pentium M |
| [07:08:35] | DoofsMC: | man, why are people so AMBIGUOUS in howtos! |
| [07:08:35] | Speedy2: | RaYmAn-Bx: I'm doing that, but even at 800 MHz, it would over heat with an 80 mm fan running at 5V. |
| [07:08:37] | Juski: | Mattwj2005: yeah well you guys have fewer active video lines – less bandwidth by default |
| [07:08:43] | DoofsMC: | Run through irrecord as demonstrated, and test lircd and irw. I ran them in separate windows and see the following output |
| [07:08:47] | Juski: | our SD in the UK always looked better than the US's |
| [07:08:58] | slaine_: | Speedy2, qu0zl has a tranquil case, which does passive Pentium M cooling |
| [07:09:03] | RaYmAn-Bx: | Speedy2: wow..mine runs well and fairly cool at 800mhz with the fan completely off |
| [07:09:12] | Mattwj2005: | how many analog channels do you have |
| [07:09:21] | DoofsMC: | - run irrecord |
| [07:09:21] | DoofsMC: | Code: |
| [07:09:21] | DoofsMC: | # irrecord -l test.conf |
| [07:09:25] | Speedy2: | RaYmAn-Bx: What kind of heatsink? Which MB are you using? |
| [07:09:26] | DoofsMC: | what test,conf? |
| [07:09:27] | Juski: | Mattwj2005: 5 in most places. 4 in others |
| [07:09:29] | Mattwj2005: | we use to have 2 – 83 but not it is 2 -69 |
| [07:09:56] | DoofsMC: | oh, you generate it |
| [07:10:27] | Juski: | Mattwj2005: there's 21–68 for the 5 channels, but because of co-channel interference worries you can't have that many channels |
| [07:11:09] | Juski: | to get a fifth channel here they had to use frequencies near the RF output channel of VCRs – and the TV company had to pay for people to replace their VCR or have it retuned! |
| [07:11:29] | Mattwj2005: | interesting |
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| [07:11:50] | Mattwj2005: | yeah right now our cable systems such |
| [07:11:56] | Mattwj2005: | a lot of the channels are still analog |
| [07:12:10] | Juski: | even then the fifth channel usually comes from a different mast, meaning most people's main aerial is pointing the wrong way |
| [07:12:23] | Mattwj2005: | oh man that sucks |
| [07:12:56] | mimikos: | I am looking for some simple guides to use (not to install) mythtv. As simple of " to rip music push button.... " |
| [07:12:59] | Mattwj2005: | you know the nice thing about transports is these television stations can make more money |
| [07:13:17] | Juski: | and when analogue gets switched off, all the digital channels are moving up the band, so the govt can sell off the lower frequencies. They might allocate it to TV, or sell it to mobile phone companies :( |
| [07:13:49] | Mattwj2005: | I hear you |
| [07:14:09] | DoofsMC: | i don't get this |
| [07:14:13] | Juski: | and they can get away with having digital transports closer together in adjacent regions, because it's resilient to the kind of interference that'd make analogue nasty |
| [07:14:17] | DoofsMC: | none of these howtos have an external script |
| [07:15:37] | DoofsMC: | i am confused |
| [07:15:49] | DoofsMC: | is there a generic script for all blasters to change channels? |
| [07:16:17] | Agrajag-: | in .au they've put each channel on a different TS |
| [07:16:17] | Juski: | DoofsMC: here's how it works... you record, or otherise purloin the IR codes for your STB and put them in a .conf file (so it's like the file for your remote). The IR blaster knows to use the config file (cos you tell it to) .. then you use irsend to send strings to the STB. the external channel change script is what does the last part |
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| [07:16:41] | Agrajag-: | and they've only allowed 2 stations to broadcast more than one channel |
| [07:16:51] | DoofsMC: | Juski, so do i really just need an stb config file? |
| [07:16:54] | Juski: | wow! that's NICE ! |
| [07:17:15] | Juski: | DoofsMC: probably. google for a howto on the blaster you have |
| [07:17:21] | DoofsMC: | usb-uirt |
| [07:17:25] | DoofsMC: | which is not very widely used |
| [07:18:02] | DoofsMC: | i http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/USB-UIRT |
| [07:18:05] | DoofsMC: | that's all theyhave |
| [07:18:12] | Juski: | some blasters come pre-programmed with codes, so you have to find out which code to use.. a bit tricky. others can just send codes the same way homebrew LIRC receivers work |
| [07:18:27] | Mattwj2005: | why only 2 stations Agrajag? |
| [07:18:39] | DoofsMC: | i mean, that's all i have to go on for myth and my blaster |
| [07:18:48] | DoofsMC: | and i have lirc installed and configured to use usb-uirt |
| [07:19:06] | Juski: | http://65.36.202.170/phpBB2/ |
| [07:19:12] | Juski: | if you really get stuck |
| [07:19:16] | DoofsMC: | i've been posting to usb-uirt forum |
| [07:19:22] | DoofsMC: | but they don't seem to be using it with mythtv |
| [07:20:01] | DoofsMC: | does it matter if i already had lirc configured to use my remote? |
| [07:20:06] | DoofsMC: | when i was using it with a serial ir receiver? |
| [07:20:09] | Agrajag-: | Mattwj2005: im not too sure. one of the stations is the government station, the other is for SBS which just does world news |
| [07:20:22] | Mattwj2005: | weird |
| [07:20:27] | Agrajag-: | so now we have 7 channels instead of just 5 |
| [07:20:42] | Speedy2: | Anyone have their myth box set to suspend-to-RAM and wake-up on a remote-control button press? |
| [07:20:50] | Juski: | DoofsMC: if irrecord works with the usb-uirt, record a .conf using the STB IR remote |
| [07:20:57] | Mattwj2005: | I think every channel should broadcast 4 or 5 unique channels |
| [07:21:05] | DoofsMC: | oh, i don't use the remote i have been using? |
| [07:21:12] | Mattwj2005: | it means more money for the station and more free programming |
| [07:21:14] | DoofsMC: | the pinnacle i have used with mythtv? |
| [07:21:26] | Juski: | DoofsMC: no! how would the codes from the pinnacle be any use to the STB ? |
| [07:21:38] | Agrajag-: | Mattwj2005: oh, they're still allowed to do things like broadcast different camera angles for the same show (on another channel), they just can't broadcast totally different programs |
| [07:21:57] | DoofsMC: | ok, so i won't even use that remote anymore? |
| [07:22:02] | DoofsMC: | only the stb's remote with myth? |
| [07:22:02] | Juski: | Mattwj2005: we have that here. It SUCKS. we have lots of different channels and the majority of them are shit like shopping & quiz channels |
| [07:22:06] | Mattwj2005: | That might be okay for sporting events or something....but that sucks |
| [07:22:24] | Agrajag-: | not really.. we only have 5 channels and there's more than enough crap broadcast already |
| [07:22:40] | Mattwj2005: | we have a lot of extra weather and new channels on the subchannels |
| [07:22:42] | DoofsMC: | wow this movie is horrible |
| [07:22:56] | Juski: | DoofsMC: no. you need to record the STBs remote so the uirt will be able to use its codes to change channels. when you're done with it, you'll no longer need the remote & can go back to using the pinnacle one to control mythtv |
| [07:23:01] | Mattwj2005: | some totally new different programming |
| [07:23:05] | Mattwj2005: | like TPT |
| [07:23:10] | DoofsMC: | Juski, oh ok |
| [07:23:26] | DoofsMC: | Juski, ok, so i used irrecord -l foo.conf |
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| [07:23:35] | Juski: | DoofsMC: you got it |
| [07:23:36] | DoofsMC: | and i just hit every button on my dishnetwork ir? |
| [07:23:38] | DoofsMC: | err remote? |
| [07:23:55] | Juski: | yes |
| [07:23:58] | moonie: | I have a bit of a problem, using mythtv .20, backend works perfectly, running frontend on backend box works fine, running frontend on another box seems to work, gets all the info from the database, however it can't find the files for the recordings and livetv just doesn't |
| [07:24:18] | DoofsMC: | i guess that means i have to stop watching this movie:) |
| [07:24:52] | Juski: | moonie: that doesn't make any sense. |
| [07:25:07] | moonie: | Juski: how so? |
| [07:25:12] | moonie: | I'll be happy to clarify |
| [07:25:23] | DoofsMC: | oh they may already have the remote |
| [07:25:34] | DoofsMC: | it's a dishnetwork 3.0 ir remote |
| [07:25:39] | Juski: | moonie: because if the recording directory isn't locally readable by the remote frontend myth will stream it |
| [07:25:52] | moonie: | yes I know, it isn't |
| [07:26:15] | DoofsMC: | hey Juski |
| [07:26:15] | DoofsMC: | http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/dishnet/3 . . . 00_58xx_59xx |
| [07:26:18] | DoofsMC: | is that the same one i have? |
| [07:26:22] | DoofsMC: | the back of mine says 3.0 IR |
| [07:26:23] | Juski: | moonie: could be that the remote frontend is using a different version of mythtv |
| [07:26:25] | moonie: | I had this problem in the past when I upgraded from .18 to .19, never solved it, I just set it back up with .20 |
| [07:26:35] | moonie: | Juski: nope, exactly the same |
| [07:26:58] | otwin: | Juski: you too cannot wake up minimyth with WOL, right? |
| [07:27:10] | Juski: | moonie: try exporting the recordings dir on the backend, then mount it to the same location on the remote frontend |
| [07:27:22] | Juski: | moonie: you shouldn't have to do that though – myth SHOULD stream it |
| [07:27:31] | moonie: | I do have it exported just not to the same place |
| [07:27:42] | DoofsMC: | http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/dishnet/SAT_301 |
| [07:27:43] | moonie: | and I do realize myth should stream it |
| [07:27:47] | DoofsMC: | the back of mine says echostar |
| [07:27:49] | Juski: | otwin: yup. I can if the box has been powered down (not soft off) though, which makes me think it's a kernel problem |
| [07:28:06] | Juski: | DoofsMC: I don't know.. try it |
| [07:28:37] | Juski: | moonie: if your recordings live in /myth/tv, export /myth/tv to the frontend's IP, then mount it to /myth/tv at the other end |
| [07:28:49] | otwin: | May be it will work soon, if it's not – a kernel problem... |
| [07:28:51] | otwin: | http://www.linpvr.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=813 |
| [07:28:51] | moonie: | yep, I understand that |
| [07:28:55] | moonie: | will do |
| [07:29:15] | Juski: | moonie: if you use mythmusic, mythvideo & mythgallery, do the same for those dirs too ;) |
| [07:29:42] | Juski: | took me AGES to find out the video location isn't stored on a per-frontend basis |
| [07:29:51] | DoofsMC: | ok Juski |
| [07:29:58] | DoofsMC: | so now that i have that config, what else is necessayr? |
| [07:31:16] | Juski: | DoofsMC: all the mythtv wiki stuff about the uirt seems to suggest to me that when you've configured the hardware to work in linux it'll act just like any other LIRC blaster, so find a howto for that |
| [07:31:33] | DoofsMC: | Juski, ok, so i just copy the "begin remote" thing from that sat to my lirc.conf? |
| [07:31:42] | DoofsMC: | begin remote to end remote? |
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| [07:32:03] | Juski: | erm.. maybe. are you using the uirt as a receiver for your pinnacle remote? |
| [07:32:06] | DoofsMC: | http://www.usbuirt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=850 |
| [07:32:09] | DoofsMC: | the owto seems to start after that |
| [07:32:21] | DoofsMC: | Juski, i want to, but first things first, i need to be able to use mythtv normally again |
| [07:32:27] | DoofsMC: | so i just care about the blaster right now |
| [07:33:00] | Juski: | DoofsMC: the problem you'll have is that lirc.conf will be for the wrong device – i.e. your pinnacle IR receiver |
| [07:33:03] | DoofsMC: | my /etc/lircd.conf still is set up for pinnaclesyspctvremote |
| [07:33:21] | Mattwj2005: | I get a music channel of the air |
| [07:33:25] | Mattwj2005: | it is kind of cool :) |
| [07:33:29] | DoofsMC: | should i list both of them in there? |
| [07:33:48] | Juski: | DoofsMC: I think you need two instances of lirc running |
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| [07:34:00] | Juski: | one for the pinnacle remote & one for the uirt |
| [07:34:13] | DoofsMC: | Juski, i'll worry about the pinnacle remote thing later |
| [07:34:14] | Juski: | but this is uncharted territory for me |
| [07:34:19] | DoofsMC: | i just need to have my recording working |
| [07:34:23] | DoofsMC: | so i need blaster working |
| [07:34:35] | DoofsMC: | so i can back up lircd.conf and just put the begin remot esutff, right? |
| [07:35:03] | Juski: | DoofsMC: yeah but... you need to configure the uirt to work in linux.. so LIRC will currently be listening to the pinnacle IR receiver |
| [07:35:16] | Juski: | and using it, so you'd need to change that & make it listen to the uirt |
| [07:35:38] | Juski: | and if you try to send IR from the pinnacle receiver nothing will happen :) |
| [07:35:50] | DoofsMC: | Juski, so i need to replace lircd.conf with the one i just showed you? |
| [07:35:54] | DoofsMC: | i just want blaster working for now |
| [07:36:00] | DoofsMC: | so my recordings will work tomorrow |
| [07:36:07] | Juski: | er.. I think so |
| [07:36:14] | DoofsMC: | ok |
| [07:36:16] | DoofsMC: | let me do that for now |
| [07:37:28] | DoofsMC: | ok, so that's done |
| [07:37:34] | DoofsMC: | but now i need an external channel changer, right? |
| [07:37:35] | DoofsMC: | script |
| [07:38:48] | Juski: | DoofsMC: try using the irsend command with it for now – see if the STB receives the buttons you send it |
| [07:39:18] | DoofsMC: | so jusdt type irsend 290 |
| [07:39:20] | DoofsMC: | to change to channel 290? |
| [07:39:30] | Juski: | I dunno.. sounds likely |
| [07:39:48] | DoofsMC: | err |
| [07:39:50] | DoofsMC: | not enough args |
| [07:39:52] | DoofsMC: | i wonder how to use it |
| [07:40:26] | Juski: | man irsend ? |
| [07:40:42] | DoofsMC: | hmm |
| [07:40:49] | DoofsMC: | i did irsend LIST 3100 "" and it said irsend: timeout |
| [07:41:28] | DoofsMC: | oh wait, it works |
| [07:41:42] | DoofsMC: | it listed them all, sir |
| [07:42:02] | Juski: | er... cool (I think) |
| [07:42:08] | DoofsMC: | http://www.lirc.org/html/irsend.html |
| [07:42:12] | DoofsMC: | i don't see how to change channels, though |
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| [07:43:00] | Juski: | DoofsMC: how would you press buttons on the DN remote to change channels? |
| [07:43:27] | DoofsMC: | i just dont' see a channel cahnge example for irsend |
| [07:43:36] | Juski: | hmmm |
| [07:43:56] | DoofsMC: | i tried "CHAN-DOWN" and it said unknown command |
| [07:44:09] | Juski: | DoofsMC: it sends NUMBERS |
| [07:44:24] | Juski: | mythtv doesn't change channels relatively |
| [07:44:38] | DoofsMC: | ok, so how do i test what you think i shouold test? |
| [07:44:41] | Juski: | if you're on channel 300 and you change down, it'd send '299' |
| [07:45:08] | Juski: | when it calls the external script it passes a number – and that number is the freqid of the channel |
| [07:45:32] | Juski: | the script gets the number, does some black magic & that number gets squirted out of an IR blaster ;) |
| [07:45:44] | Juski: | so 'up' & 'down' aren't sent |
| [07:45:49] | DoofsMC: | ok, so what do i do now, to verify channel change works? |
| [07:45:54] | DoofsMC: | with irsend |
| [07:46:08] | Juski: | show me an example external channel change script |
| [07:46:19] | DoofsMC: | i was wondering if y ou knew of one:) |
| [07:46:24] | Juski: | hang on... |
| [07:46:49] | DoofsMC: | A download link is available at the page above for an already converted remote* package, so that you can skip the script based process of converting lirc* to remote*. There's also a link to a channel.pl that handles 4 digit channels. |
| [07:47:18] | Juski: | which is where? |
| [07:47:20] | DoofsMC: | ah poop, looks like that link is down |
| [07:47:29] | Juski: | looked in /contrib on my box.. no example there |
| [07:47:56] | DoofsMC: | i did locate channels.pl and found none |
| [07:48:03] | nuonguy: | I'm confused about mythmusic; it asks for a path to hold the music but the music is on my master backend, not the frontend... |
| [07:49:21] | Juski: | nuonguy: so share it with NFS or SAMBA then |
| [07:49:23] | nuonguy: | why does it need to know the location, it's in the database at the master backend, right? |
| [07:49:48] | DoofsMC: | would just any channels.pl work, or is myth specific? |
| [07:49:58] | Juski: | I store all my media in /media and export it on the backend, then mount it to /media on all my frontends |
| [07:50:08] | Juski: | DoofsMC: lemme see a channels.pl |
| [07:50:15] | nuonguy: | mythmusic on the frontend will let my select the music, but on playback it stops with DecoderMAD: Failed to open input. Error 5. |
| [07:50:37] | DoofsMC: | man, i have seen one before |
| [07:50:47] | Juski: | nuonguy: are you listening to a word I'm saying? |
| [07:51:04] | nuonguy: | I'm listening, but I just don't get it |
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| [07:51:28] | DoofsMC: | http://www.blushingpenguin.com/mark/blog/ |
| [07:51:33] | Juski: | nuonguy: don't get what? you need to export the dir where you keep the music & mount it to the same location on the remote frontend |
| [07:51:34] | nuonguy: | mythmusic isn't like mythtv in that the backend holds the TV recordings and just streams them? |
| [07:51:45] | Juski: | no. only TV is streamed |
| [07:51:51] | nuonguy: | ah |
| [07:51:54] | nuonguy: | there you go |
| [07:52:00] | nuonguy: | totally different expectations... |
| [07:52:35] | nuonguy: | see, I can select it from mythmusic without having to export it from the master via smb/nfs/etc |
| [07:53:03] | Juski: | mythvideo, you'll find, works the same way as mythmusic & mythgallery |
| [07:53:19] | Juski: | DoofsMC: fuck. firefox is trying to execute the .pl |
| [07:53:25] | DoofsMC: | hah |
| [07:53:42] | ** Juski shouts why the fuck can't people put stuff in the official mythtv wiki?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! ** | |
| [07:53:44] | nuonguy: | thanks for clearing that up |
| [07:53:54] | ** Juski yells "on your fucking own blog page is not enough!" ** | |
| [07:53:56] | nuonguy: | what stuff? |
| [07:54:11] | Juski: | oh all kinds of stuff |
| [07:54:40] | Juski: | I'm passionate about the wiki, incase you missed that |
| [07:54:45] | DoofsMC: | "if you rename the number keys" |
| [07:54:46] | DoofsMC: | what does that mean |
| [07:54:48] | DoofsMC: | ? |
| [07:54:54] | Juski: | lots of information.. in one place :) |
| [07:55:25] | ** nuonguy says in seinfeld voice "He's passionate about the wiki! The man likes the wiki! Put things on the wiki already!" ** | |
| [07:55:25] | Juski: | DoofsMC: I think that means rename them to a) the name of the remote and b) whatever the numbers are named in the .conf file for the STB remote |
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| [07:56:15] | Juski: | I think people who only put info about mythtv on their own blog pages (i.e. how to do stuff) are selfish |
| [07:56:33] | Juski: | it's prolly done with good intent, but finding the information can be long & drawn out |
| [07:56:36] | DoofsMC: | i changed the name of the remote |
| [07:56:41] | DoofsMC: | but i dont get the numbers for the stb remote |
| [07:56:46] | DoofsMC: | there are no numbers in that channel script |
| [07:57:04] | Juski: | DoofsMC: pop it in a pastebin for me please & I'll try to figure it out |
| [07:57:21] | DoofsMC: | you can't see the script? |
| [07:57:25] | Juski: | and you know what.. when we're done with this we're gonna edit that uirt wiki page |
| [07:57:39] | Juski: | no – firefox tried to execute it |
| [07:57:57] | DoofsMC: | you can't right click on it and click save as? |
| [07:57:59] | DoofsMC: | that's what i did |
| [07:58:27] | DoofsMC: | http://pastebin.ca/index.php |
| [07:58:29] | Juski: | ahh.. renamed it |
| [07:58:36] | DoofsMC: | woops |
| [07:58:37] | DoofsMC: | haha |
| [07:58:39] | DoofsMC: | ok, so what do you think? |
| [07:58:46] | DoofsMC: | just change remote_name? |
| [07:58:52] | Juski: | yeah |
| [07:59:25] | Juski: | then try ./<scriptname.pl> <channel number> |
| [07:59:59] | DoofsMC: | it said |
| [08:00:01] | DoofsMC: | transmission failed |
| [08:00:42] | DoofsMC: | usbuirt2usb_send "remote not supported" |
| [08:01:13] | Juski: | but if you do irsend 'remotename' foo, it works, right ? |
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| [08:02:27] | DoofsMC: | this is confusing |
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| [08:02:45] | Juski: | DoofsMC: $remote_name must be the same as whatever is in the lirc.conf for the STB remote config |
| [08:02:52] | DoofsMC: | right, i did that |
| [08:02:53] | Juski: | same case & everything |
| [08:03:19] | Juski: | DoofsMC: when you tried irsend manually it worked though |
| [08:04:11] | DoofsMC: | i have to do -d /dev/lircd for one |
| [08:04:13] | DoofsMC: | but it says |
| [08:04:22] | DoofsMC: | after a while remote not supported |
| [08:04:32] | Juski: | hmmmm |
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| [08:05:15] | Juski: | instead of sending the 'list' key send something like "1 2 3" to change the STB to channel 123.. the spaces are important |
| [08:05:29] | nuonguy: | You rawk, Juski |
| [08:06:04] | Juski: | nuonguy: thanks. send money to .... |
| [08:06:06] | Juski: | :-P |
| [08:06:15] | DoofsMC: | says irsend timeout |
| [08:06:20] | nuonguy: | though, I still get DecoderMAD: Failed to open input. Error 5. |
| [08:06:41] | nuonguy: | Juski: what's your poison? Let me at least buy you a drink or something |
| [08:06:46] | Juski: | nuonguy: you sure you've got it mounted to the same location? |
| [08:07:02] | nuonguy: | Juski: You should do a thinkgeek or a amazon wishlist or something |
| [08:07:14] | nuonguy: | yup |
| [08:07:24] | Juski: | nuonguy: a few people have them, but I dunno if it does much good |
| [08:07:45] | Juski: | erm... right so your music is stored in which dir on the backend? |
| [08:08:08] | nuonguy: | oddly enough, on the backend it's all at /mnt/myth/mp3 |
| [08:08:09] | Juski: | DoofsMC: at least you've proved the hardware works anyway |
| [08:08:22] | nuonguy: | on my frontend, I mounted it /mnt/myth |
| [08:08:31] | nuonguy: | so the path is oddly enough, exactly the same |
| [08:08:48] | nuonguy: | on the frontend, /mnt/myth is an NFS mountpoint |
| [08:09:06] | nuonguy: | on the backend /mnt/myth is LVM mountpoint |
| [08:09:08] | Juski: | nuonguy: if you exported /mnt/myth it's the same path eventually yes |
| [08:09:13] | nuonguy: | for an ext3 file system |
| [08:09:29] | Juski: | show me the line from /etc/exports for that path |
| [08:10:08] | nuonguy: | it is '/mnt/myth/ *(async,all_squash)' |
| [08:10:38] | Juski: | all_squash? why would you want to do that? |
| [08:10:54] | nuonguy: | heh, I let KDE write that exports file |
| [08:11:14] | DoofsMC: | ok i am confused |
| [08:11:16] | Juski: | doesn't that make every file in all the subdirs appear in /mnt/myth ? |
| [08:11:30] | Juski: | DoofsMC: this is one for those forums I think.. the uirt forums |
| [08:11:46] | nuonguy: | no |
| [08:11:59] | Juski: | nuonguy: I thought that's what the squash option did |
| [08:12:12] | nuonguy: | all_squash makes all users of that export be the anon user on the backend |
| [08:12:18] | nuonguy: | it's a permissions thing |
| [08:12:25] | Juski: | so if you do ls /mnt/myth on the frontend, do you see the mp3 dir in there? |
| [08:12:28] | Juski: | nuonguy: ahhh |
| [08:12:33] | nuonguy: | From the man page: Map all uids and gids |
| [08:12:41] | nuonguy: | ... to the anonymous user |
| [08:13:00] | Juski: | I never manned it – I just assumed it 'squashed' the dirs down to look like one |
| [08:13:04] | Juski: | pfft |
| [08:13:13] | nuonguy: | nah |
| [08:13:56] | Juski: | nuonguy: and the location in mythmusic's settings is now /mnt/myth/mp3 yes? on the frontend I mean |
| [08:14:29] | Juski: | if you can ls /mnt/myth/mp3 on the FE & all seems well, it all should just work (tm) |
| [08:15:08] | nuonguy: | I can indeed cd /mnt/myth/mp3 on the fe and browse around yes |
| [08:15:14] | nuonguy: | it's all mounted correctly |
| [08:15:18] | nuonguy: | it seems |
| [08:15:34] | Juski: | nuonguy: you should be good to go... though you might have to back out of mythmusic & go back in... |
| [08:15:43] | DoofsMC: | i am confused |
| [08:15:45] | nuonguy: | go back in? |
| [08:16:09] | Juski: | nuonguy: in the mythfrontend, quit mythmusic & start it again |
| [08:16:23] | Juski: | rescanning the music dir is prolly a good idea too |
| [08:16:38] | Juski: | DoofsMC: I'm confused too. |
| [08:17:20] | nuonguy: | restart mythfrontend? |
| [08:18:33] | Juski: | nuonguy: you could – but I meant go out of mythmusic & then back in |
| [08:19:24] | Juski: | DoofsMC: seen this thread? http://65.36.202.170/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=8 . . . 4b107445359b |
| [08:20:49] | ** Juski bets that DoofsMC is MrMailer... ** | |
| [08:22:16] | Juski: | 10 more minutes & I have to go sort stuff out for my trip |
| [08:22:50] | nuonguy: | Can I come with you Juski? |
| [08:23:38] | Juski: | you can come to the linuxworld expo in london on 25th & 26th of october if you like... we're exhibiting mythtv there :) |
| [08:23:54] | Juski: | free entry if you register now.. so the site says |
| [08:24:01] | nuonguy: | I couldn't even make it to linuxworld SF cuz I was too busy at work |
| [08:24:08] | nuonguy: | pmo cuz my boss even said I should go |
| [08:24:22] | Juski: | yeh work sucks |
| [08:24:34] | Juski: | unless you're the grim reaper. I bet he loves his job |
| [08:26:09] | Juski: | DoofsMC: a big shame the dishnetwork boxen don't run a webserver.. I use http to change channels on my STB :) |
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| [08:35:39] | ** Freman tries to remmember the name of the chap he was talking to earlier ** | |
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| [08:36:44] | Freman: | I've solved my nuvexport problem (black bands on 16:9) |
| [08:38:03] | Freman: | I applied this patchhttps://svn.forevermore.net/nuvexport/ticket/141 |
| [08:39:33] | ** caitlin does a little dance ** | |
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| [08:49:30] | ** Juski has now allocated all the mythtv stand exhbitor badges ** | |
| [08:50:58] | nuonguy: | Juski: I think I figured it out |
| [08:51:14] | nuonguy: | permissions were such that only a few of the directories were world readable |
| [08:51:22] | Juski: | nuonguy: that'd do it |
| [08:51:42] | nuonguy: | I'd been adding music bit by bit, and of course, not caring about permissions cuz it was on the master backend as the owner |
| [08:51:44] | nuonguy: | duh |
| [08:51:52] | nuonguy: | :-! |
| [08:52:03] | ** Juski roffles ** | |
| [08:52:08] | nuonguy: | Where's the emoticon for this? |
| [08:52:14] | Juski: | lol |
| [08:52:14] | ** nuonguy <--- loser ** | |
| [08:52:19] | Juski: | nah |
| [08:52:33] | Juski: | think it's about time I ordered some mythtv case badges |
| [08:52:44] | caitlin: | case badges?! |
| [08:52:50] | caitlin: | *all* of the awesome |
| [08:53:07] | caitlin: | i'm going to have to build a silent frontend at this rate :/ |
| [08:53:11] | Juski: | caitlin: yeah... http://www.juski.co.uk/newcasebadge1.png |
| [08:53:31] | nuonguy: | now to try it out.... |
| [08:53:37] | Juski: | like the 'intel shite inside' stickers, but cool |
| [08:53:48] | Mattwj2005: | nice picture |
| [08:54:10] | Juski: | I was careful though.. not print resolution |
| [08:54:12] | Juski: | ;) |
| [08:54:24] | caitlin: | that looks *just* like a "pingfucket" |
| [08:54:25] | Mattwj2005: | lol |
| [08:54:54] | Mattwj2005: | or you could do like the RIAA and MPAA and sue everyone :) |
| [08:55:20] | Juski: | yeah I could. I'm evil, but not _that_ evil. shit |
| [08:55:25] | caitlin: | i got told to email the myth dev-list... i'm frankly scared |
| [08:55:40] | Juski: | caitlin: don't believe everything you hear on the radio ;-) |
| [08:55:52] | caitlin: | i'm just not worthy |
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| [08:55:59] | Mattwj2005: | yeah they are a step above the devil |
| [08:56:00] | caitlin: | and probably wouldn't understand a reply :P |
| [08:56:04] | ivorHome: | Juski: heh. I'll have to swing by the stall are you sharing a stand? |
| [08:56:09] | Juski: | caitlin: pose the question the right way and all will be well |
| [08:56:27] | caitlin: | "dear sirs, it's fucked... why?" |
| [08:56:27] | Juski: | ivorHome: nope. Mythtv on stand cv16 in the .org village |
| [08:56:36] | caitlin: | oops, i forgot to put "lol" on the end of that :D |
| [08:56:57] | ivorHome: | heh. let me see where we are. I think we're .org village too. |
| [08:57:09] | Juski: | ivorHome: who's 'we' ? |
| [08:57:14] | ivorHome: | kde |
| [08:57:16] | ivorHome is now known as ivor | |
| [08:57:25] | Juski: | actually we'll be there under the mythtvtalk.com umbrella |
| [08:57:54] | Juski: | it's nice that uklinux.net sponsor stands :) |
| [08:58:41] | Juski: | I heard about the LW expo after the LRL showing earlier & I saw exhibitors had to pay.. then I thought "hmm if only somebody would sponsor a mythtv stand..." |
| [08:59:38] | Juski: | ivor: any indications as to why mythtv doesn't yet work with xgl ? I know the question will come up "does mythtv work with xgl?" |
| [09:00:13] | nuonguy: | gah |
| [09:00:14] | nuonguy: | what is it? |
| [09:00:17] | Juski: | cos mythtv is seen as 'cool' so the 'cool' kidz will want it at some point |
| [09:00:39] | nuonguy: | find . -type d -exec chmod o+x {} ; |
| [09:00:57] | Juski: | and they'll say "but foo_media_player works in xgl, BAH!" |
| [09:02:13] | nuonguy: | finally! |
| [09:02:22] | ivor: | sorry, no idea. I don't use xgl. |
| [09:03:06] | Juski: | nuonguy: I'd just have done a chown -R /dir/subdir |
| [09:03:22] | Juski: | ivor: just thought you might know. ah well |
| [09:03:34] | nuonguy: | when the FE starts up, it says "Failed to find network interface eth0" |
| [09:03:42] | nuonguy: | well duh, cuz only eth1 is up |
| [09:04:14] | nuonguy: | I didn't want to make my .mp3's and my .m4a's executable |
| [09:05:18] | Juski: | nuonguy: like I said I'd just have chowned them |
| [09:05:24] | Juski: | chpwn! |
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| [09:05:36] | nuonguy: | I already chpwned them |
| [09:05:43] | nuonguy: | it was chmodding that they needed |
| [09:05:46] | Juski: | I never share dirs RW anyway |
| [09:05:57] | nuonguy: | and, only the directories need +x |
| [09:06:09] | nuonguy: | it's 2am and I have to work tomorrow |
| [09:06:12] | nuonguy: | why do I do this? |
| [09:06:15] | Juski: | lol |
| [09:06:17] | Juski: | only 2am? |
| [09:06:19] | Juski: | slacker |
| [09:06:29] | nuonguy: | I'm totally wired cuz I just totally pwned some counter-strike wannabes |
| [09:06:46] | Juski: | this time almost 2 years ago I was going to bed at 4am & getting up at 8am |
| [09:07:00] | nuonguy: | why? |
| [09:07:01] | Juski: | patching the kernel to make my dvb tuner work.. tough for a noob |
| [09:07:14] | nuonguy: | dvb-s? |
| [09:07:17] | Juski: | dvb-t |
| [09:07:26] | Juski: | back then, one tuner was enough of course |
| [09:07:36] | Juski: | now mrs Juski wants another tuner.. making four! |
| [09:07:40] | nuonguy: | a friend is trying to get vdr to do dvb-s and finding it tough |
| [09:07:44] | caitlin: | 'kin hell |
| [09:07:52] | caitlin: | are any of the usb tuners much crack? |
| [09:08:05] | caitlin: | i'm going into hospital and can take a laptop... having digi tv could be fun |
| [09:08:12] | Juski: | I might be able to get around that with pre& post-roll settings rather than early start & late finish recording times |
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| [09:08:29] | Juski: | caitlin: prolly not with all the RF flying around in hospitals |
| [09:08:50] | caitlin: | maybe i could tune to other peoples monitoring shit |
| [09:08:51] | Juski: | and they'll frown on you not using 'patient line' at £5 a minute |
| [09:08:52] | caitlin: | that would be ace |
| [09:09:09] | weigon: | i'm looking for lighttpd + mythtv users to verify the config-rules on http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MythWeb_on_Lighttpd |
| [09:09:32] | Juski: | like apache is so resource heavy... |
| [09:10:14] | Juski: | hmmm 100 badges at £0.50 plus VAT... |
| [09:10:27] | Mattwj2005: | what is VAT? |
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| [09:10:56] | Mattwj2005: | is that a type of tax or something? |
| [09:11:10] | Juski: | 'value added tax'.. something of a misnomer |
| [09:11:27] | Mattwj2005: | oh ok :) |
| [09:11:41] | Mattwj2005: | is it expensive? |
| [09:11:46] | Juski: | 17.5% |
| [09:11:52] | Mattwj2005: | dang |
| [09:12:06] | Mattwj2005: | you guys have income tax as well right? |
| [09:12:34] | Juski: | yeah |
| [09:12:38] | Juski: | and soon, air tax |
| [09:12:50] | Mattwj2005: | craziness |
| [09:13:05] | quicksilver: | everywhere has VAT, as far as I know |
| [09:13:11] | Mattwj2005: | not the US |
| [09:13:11] | quicksilver: | they just call it something different |
| [09:13:16] | quicksilver: | you call it 'sales tax' |
| [09:13:27] | Mattwj2005: | oh okay |
| [09:13:29] | quicksilver: | and you have two kinds, state and federal if I'm not mistaken |
| [09:13:29] | Juski: | tv tax, (soon) fat food tax, income tax, death tax, tax tax |
| [09:13:38] | Mattwj2005: | yeah but it is only like 6% here |
| [09:13:42] | ** quicksilver lobbies for bad taste tax ** | |
| [09:14:07] | Juski: | insurance tax, road tax... |
| [09:14:15] | quicksilver: | tv tax |
| [09:14:18] | Juski: | we're pretty well taxed here |
| [09:14:20] | Mattwj2005: | well lets wee |
| [09:14:22] | Mattwj2005: | *see |
| [09:14:28] | Juski: | wee tax.. |
| [09:14:41] | quicksilver: | on the other hand we do have a welfare state... |
| [09:14:43] | Juski: | that's the tax that takes the .... |
| [09:15:08] | ** Juski would abolish the welfare state in the blink of an eye. don't wanna work? oh dear ** | |
| [09:15:24] | Mattwj2005: | we have income tax, sales tax, property tax, tax on gas, smokes, alchol, winning the lottery, social security, etc |
| [09:15:43] | Mattwj2005: | income tax is part state and part federal tax |
| [09:15:58] | Juski: | lottery winners here get it tax free IIRC, but they're generally too stupid to hang onto it for long |
| [09:16:15] | weigon: | winning in a lottery is the only tax-free way to make money here :) |
| [09:16:24] | Mattwj2005: | lol |
| [09:16:40] | Mattwj2005: | you still pay tax when you buy something ;) |
| [09:17:07] | Mattwj2005: | so they still tax you on that money :) |
| [09:17:10] | weigon: | you pay the 16%VAT on the ticket for the lottery, yeah :) |
| [09:17:10] | quicksilver: | Juski: I'm quite attached to the NHS though, for all its flaws |
| [09:17:20] | Juski: | quicksilver: yeah there's that |
| [09:17:42] | Juski: | I just wish all the folks who flat refuse to work would get their money supply cut off |
| [09:18:28] | xq: | Hi all! I hope somebody can help me. I'm trying to compile mythtv-0.20 but when I run configure it says "lirc support no", even thou I have lircd running and the remote is working in "irw" ? |
| [09:18:56] | Juski: | xq I think you might need lirc-dev or similar |
| [09:19:19] | caitlin: | fat tax would be good |
| [09:19:26] | caitlin: | tubbies are costing the nhs squillions |
| [09:19:37] | weigon: | how about tax tax ? |
| [09:19:41] | caitlin: | leaves no resources for anorexics like me |
| [09:19:42] | Juski: | yeh.. best for everybody to put all the lard-arses down |
| [09:20:05] | caitlin: | people should be more attractive too |
| [09:20:12] | Juski: | if you have a waistline bigger than 36" and you're not 7 foot tall.. you get killed off |
| [09:20:17] | xq: | juski: thanks.. i'm running Ubuntu .. so something like the liblircclient-dev package? |
| [09:20:20] | caitlin: | just make doors smaller |
| [09:20:24] | caitlin: | esp in fast food places |
| [09:20:26] | caitlin: | hehehehe |
| [09:20:30] | caitlin: | and electrify the frames |
| [09:20:32] | Juski: | xq: something like it |
| [09:20:38] | Juski: | caitlin: or just sharpen them |
| [09:20:45] | caitlin: | owch, slice off the spare? |
| [09:20:49] | Juski: | seen as it's friday... |
| [09:20:54] | Juski is now known as Catbert | |
| [09:21:04] | Catbert is now known as Juski | |
| [09:21:06] | xq: | juski: thx, will try it |
| [09:21:18] | Juski: | "this nick may not be used"... jees.. what is it? copyrighted? |
| [09:21:49] | Juski: | was actually "this nick may not be used.. change it within one minute or you will be disconnected" |
| [09:22:02] | quicksilver: | registered to someone else, I imagine |
| [09:22:11] | Juski: | nope.. |
| [09:22:18] | ** quicksilver is connected to so many different IRC servers he can't remember which one this is ** | |
| [09:22:20] | Juski: | it tells you when it might be owned by someone else |
| [09:22:57] | xq: | juski: yep, after installing liblircclient-dev it says "lirc support yes" ! tnx a lot! |
| [09:23:19] | Juski: | xq: I'm guessing you've not got a lot of the build dependencies either |
| [09:23:32] | Juski: | so that's the beginning of your sudo apt-get stuff |
| [09:24:08] | Juski: | luckily, you should be able to do sudo apt-get build-dep mythtv mythplugins |
| [09:24:42] | Juski: | if that doesn't work edit your sources.list to include the deb line from the ubuntu section of this channel's ubuntu faq section and run apt-get update |
| [09:25:10] | nuonguy: | what kind of blank DVDs do I have to buy to be able to play them in ordinary DVD players? |
| [09:25:12] | xq: | juski: that might well be .. kind of new to using linux (as root).. so far has taken me a lot of time trying to get my mythbox running.. |
| [09:25:23] | Juski: | nuonguy: dvd-r is the most supported |
| [09:25:30] | nuonguy: | k |
| [09:25:45] | nuonguy: | I just burned my first DVD using a DVD-R blank |
| [09:25:46] | Juski: | nuonguy: but depends on the induh-vidual player |
| [09:26:04] | nuonguy: | the quality is very poor – lots of what look kinda like mpeg artifacts |
| [09:26:12] | nuonguy: | and the second title didn't play |
| [09:26:14] | Juski: | so burn it slower |
| [09:26:27] | nuonguy: | the dvd player seemed to be starting and stopping the disc spinning a lot |
| [09:26:31] | Juski: | cheap recordable dvds suck |
| [09:26:32] | nuonguy: | burn it slower? |
| [09:26:35] | Juski: | yeah |
| [09:26:38] | quicksilver: | sounds like you were overruning |
| [09:26:38] | nuonguy: | maxell? |
| [09:26:39] | Juski: | burn it slower |
| [09:26:46] | quicksilver: | or your DMA was broken |
| [09:27:05] | quicksilver: | I had problems because my kernel loaded ide-generic before my chipset specific module, which meant my DVD burner didn't have DMA |
| [09:27:08] | nuonguy: | I was playing it on an external ordinary DVD player – no DMA involved |
| [09:27:09] | quicksilver: | that really does mess things up :) |
| [09:27:16] | quicksilver: | I'm talking about the burning part :P |
| [09:27:21] | nuonguy: | I can imagine |
| [09:27:22] | Juski: | 4x is all my burner in this machine does, and it's slow enough for discs I can read in anything |
| [09:27:24] | nuonguy: | ah |
| [09:27:37] | nuonguy: | k |
| [09:27:54] | nuonguy: | quicksilver, how do I check that? |
| [09:27:55] | Juski: | like people always wonder why CDs burnt at 100x don't work in their car player or something |
| [09:27:57] | nuonguy: | hdparm? |
| [09:28:30] | quicksilver: | have a browse through dmesg |
| [09:28:30] | Juski: | hdparm -a /dev/dvd to check if dma is enabled |
| [09:28:39] | quicksilver: | yeah, what juski says :) |
| [09:28:44] | Juski: | I think it's -a anyway |
| [09:28:57] | nuonguy: | should it say dma somewhere? |
| [09:28:58] | Juski: | then -d 1 to enable it IIRC |
| [09:29:00] | nuonguy: | sadly, it doesn't |
| [09:29:13] | nuonguy: | it just says readahead = 256 on |
| [09:30:18] | quicksilver: | not -a |
| [09:30:20] | quicksilver: | just hdparm |
| [09:30:25] | quicksilver: | hdparm /dev/dvd |
| [09:30:26] | nuonguy: | hdparm -v |
| [09:30:41] | Juski: | or -d |
| [09:30:43] | nuonguy: | hdparm -v /dev/dvd says using_dma = 0 |
| [09:30:48] | nuonguy: | whoops |
| [09:30:52] | quicksilver: | ok |
| [09:30:56] | Juski: | hdparm -d 1 /dev/dvd |
| [09:31:04] | quicksilver: | what kernel version? |
| [09:31:13] | quicksilver: | recent versions turn it on by default in most cases |
| [09:31:31] | Juski: | does on 2.6.12 here |
| [09:31:53] | Juski: | hmm do I order 100 badges or only 50.. I'll need to shift them all |
| [09:31:55] | nuonguy: | 2.6.17–1.2142_FC4 |
| [09:32:01] | xq: | juski: i'm installing the system from scratch when i got the new hard drive for the box (before just experimented on an old one). First time I didn't care about lirc support but now i'm trying to do everything right. I'm hoping this time myth-tv will find my dvb-card.. last time it didn't but now i'm trying with the 2.6.18 kernel if it would help.. |
| [09:32:12] | nuonguy: | is this a BIOS setting I should fix? |
| [09:33:00] | Juski: | xq: you can always use modules from linuxtv's hg repository, but you have to build them yourself. shouldn't be too hard for even a noob though |
| [09:33:26] | quicksilver: | nuonguy: I'm guessing you have the wrong module loaded |
| [09:33:37] | Juski: | xq: and you shouldn't just jump into using mythtv.. testing the hardware works in linux first is always the best idea |
| [09:33:37] | quicksilver: | nuonguy: probably ide_generic took control of your DVD |
| [09:33:42] | quicksilver: | ide_generic doesn't do dma |
| [09:34:06] | quicksilver: | nuonguy: you need to load your chipset-specific kernel module first. Mine was via82cxxx or something like that, but it obviously depends on your motherboard |
| [09:34:31] | nuonguy: | ide_generic is not loaded |
| [09:34:40] | nuonguy: | gigabyte nforce250 mobo |
| [09:36:07] | xq: | juski: haven't heard about the hg repository.. but the card seemed that time to work fine with czap, on QAM64 channels.. but now with 2.6.18 the QAM128 once seems to work as well.. |
| [09:36:17] | quicksilver: | nuonguy: try hdparm -d1 /dev/dvd |
| [09:36:23] | quicksilver: | nuonguy: btu I'm not expecting it to work |
| [09:37:03] | quicksilver: | check http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24046.html for a discussion of this and related probs |
| [09:37:36] | nuonguy: | I'm afraid I'm going to see lockups if I try this |
| [09:37:58] | nuonguy: | it's lame – it's only doing 16-bit IOs as well |
| [09:38:19] | quicksilver: | sounds like you've definitely got the wrong kernel modules loaded |
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| [09:40:31] | Juski: | xq: sounds good then |
| [09:41:09] | nuonguy: | quicksilver: I'm looking, but I don't see what else could be loaded that interferes... |
| [09:41:40] | moonie: | I fixed my "file not found" problem, now I have another, when I try to watch a recording or livetv it restarts X, I'm using compiz and xgl on an nvidia video card, could this be the cause? |
| [09:42:02] | Juski: | moonie: mythtv & XGL are not happy bed partners. uninstall XGL |
| [09:42:11] | Juski: | or stop using XGL I mean |
| [09:42:20] | Juski: | and compiz |
| [09:42:33] | moonie: | yea, thats what I've been reading |
| [09:42:38] | Juski: | now whine about it |
| [09:42:54] | moonie: | I don't whine, I leave that to others |
| [09:43:14] | moonie: | I have read that the latest nvidia driver supports compiz without xgl |
| [09:43:24] | moonie: | and works with mythtv |
| [09:43:38] | quicksilver: | nuonguy: it's not a question of having bad modules which interfere, it's just a question of not having the right module for your motherboard, probably |
| [09:43:58] | quicksilver: | nuonguy: nforce motherboards are typically the amd74xx or whatever that driver is called, I think |
| [09:44:00] | Juski: | which is the part that gives you wobbly windows & stupid 3d cube desktop? |
| [09:44:03] | quicksilver: | but I don't own one so I'm not sure |
| [09:44:14] | quicksilver: | that's xgl |
| [09:44:26] | Juski: | and compiz does what exactly? |
| [09:44:27] | moonie: | Juski: my understanding is that compiz is that bit |
| [09:44:41] | quicksilver: | oh |
| [09:44:45] | ** quicksilver shrugs ** | |
| [09:44:52] | quicksilver: | I thought xgl was the 3d cube desktop |
| [09:44:55] | quicksilver: | could be wrong though :) |
| [09:44:59] | Juski: | so is xgl just the desktop manager? |
| [09:45:24] | moonie: | compiz needs extentions that xgl (x server on top of xorg) provides, but the new nvidia driver now provides that |
| [09:45:37] | moonie: | and its xgl that myth is unhappy about |
| [09:46:25] | Juski: | ahh |
| [09:46:37] | Juski: | so you know the answer to your question already then :) |
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| [09:47:49] | moonie: | pretty much, was just trying to find confirmation |
| [09:48:30] | nuonguy: | turning on DMA seems easy |
| [09:48:55] | nuonguy: | but what does "HDIO_GETGEO failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device" mean? |
| [09:49:10] | quicksilver: | it means it doesn't support DMA |
| [09:49:30] | quicksilver: | which means the kernel module driving that device doesn't know how to DMA |
| [09:49:39] | quicksilver: | which in turn probably means you are not using the right kernel module |
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| [09:51:37] | nuonguy: | but hdparm -v says DMA is on |
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| [09:59:20] | quicksilver: | nuonguy: that's not what you said 30 mins ago, is it? |
| [09:59:31] | quicksilver: | 10:30 < nuonguy> hdparm -v /dev/dvd says using_dma = 0 |
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| [10:22:55] | ** Juski laughs on discovering what a cure for hiccups has been found to be ** | |
| [10:25:19] | caitlin: | jen and i compete at break holding with our noses help |
| [10:25:28] | caitlin: | that always gets it |
| [10:25:28] | caitlin: | breath, not break |
| [10:25:32] | caitlin: | whats the new one? |
| [10:26:08] | Juski: | a digital rectal probe |
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| [10:26:46] | xq: | juski: now lirc support seems to work, any idea getting DVB support? :) I tried to follow some instructions on the web and copied the kernel files from include/linux/dvb to /opt/linux/dvb and then in settings.pro CONFIG += using_dvb DEFINES += USING_DVB INCLUDEPATH += /opt/linux/dvb .. with no success.. |
| [10:26:58] | Juski: | xq: all you needed to do was ./configure --enable-dvb |
| [10:27:00] | xq: | juski: oh :) |
| [10:27:44] | xq: | juski: works! thnx! |
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| [10:30:18] | ** Juski is amazed he's been of some use today ** | |
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| [10:34:37] | xq: | argh.. /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.0.3/../../../../lib64/libdts.a: could not read symbols: Bad value |
| [10:35:03] | xq: | i have an amd64 .. do i really have to disable dts? |
| [10:36:28] | Juski: | xq: you know there are 0.20 packages for ubuntu... |
| [10:36:35] | Juski: | dunno about 64bit though |
| [10:37:11] | Juski: | xq: check the -users and -dev mailing lists – someone's bound to have come up against that |
| [10:37:42] | xq: | juski: yea.. I think i read something about this somewhere.. |
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| [10:44:28] | xq: | juski: //www.opensubscriber.com/message/mythtv-users@mythtv.org/3813983.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/mythtv- . . . 3813983.html |
| [10:46:58] | Juski: | heh. I'm no help with 64-bit matters, sorry |
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| [11:01:33] | xq: | juski: well.. i tried to copy the libdts_pic over and libdts files and see what happens.. |
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| [11:06:05] | Juski: | uh-oh... I responded to http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=14648#14648 and ended up making http://www.juski.co.uk/mythtvtheme1280x720.png just for a lark.. you know what that's gonna lead to |
| [11:06:56] | Merlin83b: | Yet another theme from themm master Juski? |
| [11:07:19] | Merlin83b: | I reckon before too long you'll be responsible for maintaining all themes in mythtv :) |
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| [11:08:17] | Juski: | Merlin83b: just an idea |
| [11:08:38] | Merlin83b: | I was answering the implied question of what it might lead to :) |
| [11:08:40] | Juski: | I reckon if that did happen I'd not be seen for a cloud of dust |
| [11:09:26] | ** Juski wills the mythtv code to need less fixing so Isaac can concentrate on libmythui :) ** | |
| [11:09:38] | Merlin83b: | Heh. |
| [11:09:43] | Freman: | Dual core doesn't help much when you have a single threaded noise reduction filter )c: |
| [11:09:51] | ** caitlin wonders why there are so few themes around ** | |
| [11:10:02] | Juski: | caitlin: try making one. that'll stop you wondering |
| [11:10:03] | caitlin: | the mp3car forums are FULL of people skinning crap for in car pcs |
| [11:10:07] | caitlin: | ah, ok |
| [11:10:20] | Freman: | caitlin, because by the time we get myth up – we're to scared to break it, so we just leave it alone |
| [11:10:24] | quicksilver: | I'd love an in-car pc if they didn't cost more than my car |
| [11:10:25] | caitlin: | heh |
| [11:10:31] | Juski: | caitlin: yeah but mythtv doesn't need fucking boy-racer leeted up graphics shite |
| [11:10:36] | caitlin: | mine cost over a grand, and still isn't installed |
| [11:10:55] | caitlin: | home brew sat nav is cool though |
| [11:11:02] | Juski: | say 'skin' to me & I think winamp, nasty nasty nastiness |
| [11:11:06] | Freman: | that's expensive... I'd just grab an epia board, and mount it under the seat |
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| [11:11:18] | Juski: | so it's really GOOD that mythtv themes are so hard to make |
| [11:11:23] | caitlin: | freman... yeh you would... i did.... and then you just need one more bit |
| [11:11:27] | caitlin: | and then you've spent a grand |
| [11:11:37] | caitlin: | oops |
| [11:12:11] | Juski: | actually by the same token it's good that C++ & qt are so hard to code for, otherwise there'd be all kinds of amateurish plugin crap too |
| [11:12:21] | Juski: | elitism has its place IMHO ;) |
| [11:12:40] | Freman: | I could have a whole car pc for around $600 aud, and I'd install it (c: |
| [11:12:44] | mimikos: | Having ripped a dvd it starts with mplayer and gets me to the movie's menu. How do I start the movie ? |
| [11:12:48] | Juski: | look at java.. they made it dead easy to write bad code to do all sorts of things |
| [11:13:15] | Juski: | mimikos: use xine or ogle, not mplayer. or Internal. mplayer doesn't like menus yet |
| [11:13:41] | Freman: | xine is good, but I've found it pauses )c: |
| [11:13:57] | mimikos: | Juski, what is internal ? |
| [11:14:13] | Juski: | caitlin: an analogy I'd use is one of the printing press... at first when only the elite could use them, printed matter was a fine thing. now look at it.. |
| [11:14:35] | Juski: | mimikos: the Internal player... mythtv can play DVDs – has been able to since 0.19 but 0.20 supports menus |
| [11:14:38] | mimikos: | Can I use xine to view the ripped dvd's and mplayer for other video formats ? |
| [11:14:45] | Juski: | mimikos: yep. |
| [11:15:25] | Juski: | if the dvds are ripped to .iso format, just associate .iso with a xine player command in the video playback settings |
| [11:15:46] | Juski: | right – I g2g get what might pass for a haircut |
| [11:16:28] | Juski: | see yous on Sunday maybe |
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| [11:17:11] | mimikos: | Juski, thanks. That's the other problem I am having. I ripped it as .iso but I get for one movie entries like DVD- "DVD-title" DVD-title1" DVD-title2" |
| [11:17:14] | mimikos: | how come ? |
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| [12:07:19] | Beirdo: | nice netsplit |
| [12:07:47] | kslater: | yikes |
| [12:09:33] | siXy: | does anyone run 0.20 on ubuntu 6.06? |
| [12:09:44] | siXy: | *anyone here, that is |
| [12:11:57] | caitlin: | yes |
| [12:12:23] | siXy: | did you clean install to 0.20 or did you grab the 0.18 package then upgrade? |
| [12:13:06] | caitlin: | i clean installed to 0.2 |
| [12:13:17] | caitlin: | and then imported my old database |
| [12:13:22] | caitlin: | so i guess it's kind of an upgrade |
| [12:13:25] | antiProzac: | siXy: I do |
| [12:13:28] | siXy: | i did once see some 0.20 pacakges for 6.06 but i forgot to save the link and now its gone :( |
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| [12:14:10] | antiProzac: | I just downloaded the tar and compiled it. It was pretty simple. |
| [12:14:27] | antiProzac: | although I had issues with gcc-4 so I symlinked gcc to gcc-3.4 |
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| [12:14:39] | antiProzac: | and g++ too |
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| [12:15:41] | siXy: | i would rather get it from package if i can, to make it easy to remove/upgrade if i need to |
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| [12:16:08] | caitlin: | annoyingly my box went tits up an hour or so ago, so i can't tell you what my sources.list says |
| [12:16:11] | antiProzac: | I saw a debian source somewhere for it as well |
| [12:16:12] | caitlin: | but there are packages around |
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| [12:16:56] | caitlin: | i'm just havign a look see |
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| [12:18:15] | ikke_: | ubuntu 6.10 beta seems to have mythtv prepackaged. the 20 version |
| [12:19:01] | ikke_: | but the packages are not compatible with dapper |
| [12:19:03] | caitlin: | running beta is a bit risky though isn't it? |
| [12:19:33] | ikke_: | i installed it on some old box at work for coffee machine. dapper at home |
| [12:19:45] | ikke_: | for coffee room i meant |
| [12:19:46] | siXy: | yeah i want it to basically never crash (clearly not going to happen but hey) so unstable releases arent ideal |
| [12:20:57] | ikke_: | within dapper i saw nothing but crashes some weeks ago. same with my collegues. had something to do with nvidia and opengl i assume. gone now that i removed all opengl settings. |
| [12:21:35] | ikke_: | now i wait for ubuntu 6.10 to see if that and new nvidia drivers would fix it. |
| [12:21:37] | fatmatt: | hows the stable branch of svn going? is it the best one to compile> |
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| [12:22:41] | siXy: | ikke – i suspect the drivers just were not installed/set up correctly |
| [12:23:05] | ikke_: | siXy: any special screw up in mind? |
| [12:23:58] | ikke_: | opengl works just fine otherwise, but while switching desktops it crashed while in myth |
| [12:24:00] | siXy: | umm compiling from source can make things go wrong – its best to use the pacakges in the repos. also possible broken xorg.conf. these are generalisations however, im no ubuntu guru |
| [12:24:49] | ikke_: | also many times if opengl screensaver kicked in in middle of watching tv, and hit a button to get rid of it, it crashed |
| [12:25:07] | siXy: | yeah ogl screensavers are a bad idea tbh |
| [12:25:41] | ikke_: | i guess it's a driver issue, since the whole box froze always |
| [12:25:59] | ikke_: | not just mythtv, even it caused it. |
| [12:26:22] | DigerLAP: | does the "myth" in mythtv stand for anything? How did the name "myth" coming into being |
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| [12:26:46] | siXy: | *shrug* |
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| [12:41:30] | ivor: | mythical convergence device. |
| [12:42:12] | kslater: | it's not a myth in my house |
| [12:42:23] | DigerLAP: | hahha |
| [12:42:37] | quicksilver: | Miraculous Youth-restoring Television-recording Happiness-creator |
| [12:42:40] | kslater: | thanks to the work of the devs and folks like you Ivor (epia bits) |
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| [12:45:15] | ivor: | Many Years Testing Hacks |
| [12:46:17] | siXy: | heh |
| [12:46:47] | Beirdo: | oh, ivor... forgot to pester you last night |
| [12:46:52] | Beirdo: | ;) |
| [12:47:13] | ivor: | hah, you'd have got a shrift response. |
| [12:47:19] | Beirdo: | yeah well |
| [12:47:33] | Beirdo: | my wife came home and we started cleaning the patio, etc. |
| [12:48:14] | ivor: | :) got back at 8. made dinner. tried too calm/feed baby/ got sicked on. checked mail one handed. slept. |
| [12:48:33] | Beirdo: | heh. I'll be in that mode once we have kids too |
| [12:48:59] | Beirdo: | ah crap |
| [12:49:07] | ivor: | oh yeah, that too. |
| [12:49:23] | Beirdo: | my wife's guitar has a broken string, and we have guitar lessons starting tomorrow morning |
| [12:49:32] | quicksilver: | that sounds like the start of a blues song |
| [12:49:36] | Beirdo: | and my guitar uses ball-end strings, hers is tie-on |
| [12:49:41] | Beirdo: | sigh |
| [12:49:47] | quicksilver: | My wife's guitar has a broken string/ Oh, Yeah!/ My wife's guitar has a broken string... |
| [12:49:52] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [12:49:58] | ivor: | shrugs. use less notes. |
| [12:50:02] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [12:50:13] | Beirdo: | I'll suggest that, but I don't think she'll be too amused :) |
| [12:50:44] | Beirdo: | I guess I could let her use mine, and learn on the Les Paul |
| [12:50:56] | Beirdo: | but that would be kinda silly using a nice electric acoustically |
| [12:51:41] | Beirdo: | that Les Paul did a lot of travelling :) |
| [12:51:50] | Beirdo: | bought it off ebay from a guy in Nashville |
| [12:52:09] | Beirdo: | then flew it to Toronto after visiting a friend in Tennessee who picked it up for me |
| [12:52:18] | Beirdo: | then flew it down to Puerto Rico |
| [12:52:23] | Beirdo: | when I moved |
| [12:52:23] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [12:53:40] | caitlin: | fewer notes |
| [12:53:53] | caitlin: | if you break a string when you're crap, you're just 1/6th less ignorant |
| [12:53:59] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [12:54:35] | caitlin: | i stack drums and cymbals up... if i miss something, i just hit whatever's below it and carry on |
| [12:54:55] | Beirdo: | hard to learn chords with the low E string busted though |
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| [12:55:17] | caitlin: | you can do loads of chords without the big e |
| [12:55:18] | caitlin: | d |
| [12:55:25] | caitlin: | d aug7th |
| [12:55:27] | caitlin: | a |
| [12:55:28] | caitlin: | e |
| [12:55:28] | Beirdo: | it's unravelled right at the bridge, don't know what she did to it |
| [12:55:35] | caitlin: | g the cheating way |
| [12:55:48] | Beirdo: | I have spare strings for mine, but they will do her no good |
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| [13:00:44] | DoofsMC: | hi |
| [13:00:50] | DoofsMC: | anyone using irblaster? |
| [13:03:31] | DigerLAP: | hey |
| [13:03:32] | DigerLAP: | http://wendy.seltzer.org/photos/defcon12/003_ . . . F_CON_12.jpg |
| [13:03:43] | DigerLAP: | she built a myth and has a site about it and that was on there |
| [13:03:54] | DigerLAP: | wtf does that illegal mean |
| [13:04:14] | DigerLAP: | http://wendy.seltzer.org/photos/mythtv/ |
| [13:04:29] | Beirdo: | illegal usually means against the law |
| [13:04:36] | quicksilver: | that's my experience, too |
| [13:04:47] | quicksilver: | sometimes it means 'small purple mammal'. But that is quite a lot less common. |
| [13:04:54] | DigerLAP: | lol Beirdo i knew that |
| [13:05:07] | quicksilver: | it's illegal to play MP3 of recorded CDs, in the US |
| [13:05:09] | quicksilver: | technically |
| [13:05:17] | DigerLAP: | oh i see |
| [13:05:20] | quicksilver: | all iPods are illegal (when they are being used to play ripped CDs) |
| [13:05:22] | Beirdo: | it was referring to the broadcast bit |
| [13:05:28] | Beirdo: | which never happened |
| [13:05:41] | DigerLAP: | not that i care about no law |
| [13:05:51] | quicksilver: | I care about lots of laws |
| [13:05:53] | Beirdo: | quicksilver, not true |
| [13:05:57] | quicksilver: | murder being against the law is good |
| [13:06:11] | quicksilver: | Beirdo: I'm pretty sure that is true, in the US |
| [13:06:13] | Beirdo: | you are allowed to make MP3s of your own CDs if you don't distribute, last I heard |
| [13:06:27] | Beirdo: | "archival copy" falls under fair use |
| [13:06:39] | quicksilver: | it isn't an archival copy if you listen to it |
| [13:06:45] | Beirdo: | sure it is |
| [13:07:13] | Beirdo: | nothing says it's not being archived just because you listen to it |
| [13:07:43] | quicksilver: | http://weinerville.weblogs.us/archives/197 |
| [13:07:44] | quicksilver: | for example |
| [13:07:50] | siXy: | depends on where you live. in my country you can make mp3s of your cds all you want as long as you dont give/sell them to other people |
| [13:08:02] | quicksilver: | an archival copy is a copy made for the sole purpose of a safe backup in case the master fails |
| [13:08:05] | Beirdo: | and anyways, if you are ONLY using stuff you bought, nobody really cares, not even the RIAA |
| [13:08:06] | quicksilver: | that is legal |
| [13:08:11] | quicksilver: | I didn't say anybody cares |
| [13:08:14] | Chicago: | I wrote a linux parody of George Michael's "Faith" I thought this channel might be amused. :) http://rafb.net/paste/results/3FbMAq44.html |
| [13:08:16] | quicksilver: | obviously Apple sell iPods |
| [13:08:18] | Beirdo: | it's when you give it away, put it on the internet, etc. |
| [13:08:24] | quicksilver: | right, it's a ridiculous law |
| [13:08:28] | quicksilver: | or a ridiculous interpretation |
| [13:08:34] | quicksilver: | but the fact is, the US is a ridiculous place :P |
| [13:08:43] | DigerLAP: | for most laws yes |
| [13:08:49] | quicksilver: | siXy: most places outside of the US have a wider definition of fair use |
| [13:09:05] | quicksilver: | siXy: it's perfectly legal in most parts of europe to the best of my knowledge and loads of other places too |
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| [13:09:17] | Beirdo: | and I don't care how the RIAA interprets the law really. They are a bunch of dogf$$$ers |
| [13:09:36] | quicksilver: | indeed |
| [13:09:38] | quicksilver: | neither do I |
| [13:09:46] | quicksilver: | I was just making the point that it was illegal, technically |
| [13:09:50] | kslater: | for my high quality recording profile I want it to stay in mpeg2 (pvr x50), but I want it to do the lossless transcode to cut out marked commercials. is this possible without cutom jobs? |
| [13:09:52] | quicksilver: | since I assumed that was what that picture was about |
| [13:09:54] | Beirdo: | don't think it is. |
| [13:10:00] | Beirdo: | I just think the RIAA wants it to be |
| [13:10:02] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [13:10:09] | Beirdo: | which means it will be in about 2 years |
| [13:10:33] | Beirdo: | the date July 1, 2005 was the broadcast bit for HDTV broadcast date |
| [13:10:42] | Beirdo: | it got struck down shortly before the date |
| [13:11:42] | quicksilver: | nah it won't be |
| [13:11:48] | quicksilver: | all the senators daughters have iPods |
| [13:11:57] | quicksilver: | that means that MP3 players are pretty much safe, I'd say |
| [13:12:04] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [13:12:13] | Beirdo: | depends how much money they are bribed with |
| [13:12:22] | Beirdo: | this IS the US we are talking about |
| [13:12:27] | ivor: | quicksilver: er, since when have the lawmakers ever bothered about the laws applying to themselves? |
| [13:12:48] | Chicago: | Honestly... you'd think Fraunhoffer would be more pissed than the RIAA... I know they're not being paid for the MP3 algorithm as they should by royalty. |
| [13:13:17] | Beirdo: | Chicago has a good point |
| [13:13:28] | quicksilver: | 'should' |
| [13:13:39] | quicksilver: | it was a an algorithm which any decent maths grad could have come up with |
| [13:13:46] | caitlin: | my old host used to remove the mp3s from my site |
| [13:13:46] | Beirdo: | but didn't |
| [13:13:48] | quicksilver: | (well any decent maths grad who had covered fourier transforms) |
| [13:13:57] | caitlin: | which was a pisser, since they were recordings of my band, that I made |
| [13:14:05] | Beirdo: | Fraunhoffer came up with it and got it patented |
| [13:14:10] | quicksilver: | I'm sure loads of people had played with similar algorithms before some idiot patented it |
| [13:14:21] | quicksilver: | the idea is quite obvious to anyone who understands the field |
| [13:14:25] | Beirdo: | if you wanna debate the validity of the patent that's different, but they DID patent it |
| [13:14:38] | quicksilver: | they only patented the compression, so far as I know |
| [13:14:41] | Beirdo: | it's obvious NOW |
| [13:14:43] | quicksilver: | decompression is not encumbered |
| [13:14:54] | Beirdo: | it wasn't before it was developed :) |
| [13:15:06] | quicksilver: | it was obvious before it was patented |
| [13:15:08] | quicksilver: | it wasn't a new idea |
| [13:15:10] | ** quicksilver shrugs ** | |
| [13:15:12] | Chicago: | Were yall amused by my parody? |
| [13:15:15] | ivor: | time for a validity of software patents argument? :D |
| [13:15:25] | quicksilver: | two separate arguments |
| [13:15:30] | Beirdo: | psycho-analytic compression was obvious? |
| [13:15:30] | ivor: | or shall we talk about mythtv? :P |
| [13:15:31] | quicksilver: | whether software patents should exist |
| [13:15:40] | quicksilver: | and whether ridiculous patents should be granted |
| [13:15:42] | Beirdo: | mythtv? OMG, on topic? |
| [13:15:45] | quicksilver: | fraunhoffer is in both categories |
| [13:15:47] | opello: | heh |
| [13:16:16] | opello: | just because an idea (fft) is common, doesn't mean that a particular application of it is also common |
| [13:16:46] | quicksilver: | indeed not |
| [13:16:48] | Beirdo: | and they didn't use a straight fourier. discrete cosine transform AFAIK |
| [13:16:52] | quicksilver: | but it does mean it's fakking obvious |
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| [13:17:17] | Chicago: | Has anybody patented brushing their teeth? |
| [13:17:32] | Chicago: | You'd think according to patent law... it's a legit patent. |
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| [13:18:03] | Beirdo: | Chicago, a bit late now, that's in the common knowledge already |
| [13:18:14] | Beirdo: | except in some REALLY backwater places, I guess |
| [13:18:16] | quicksilver: | Chicago: http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6883200.html |
| [13:18:24] | Chicago: | Beirdo: yeah... have you been to the south |
| [13:18:26] | Chicago: | haha |
| [13:18:30] | Beirdo: | yes, I have ;P) |
| [13:18:35] | fryfrog: | Ha, like the UK or Alabama? :p |
| [13:18:51] | Beirdo: | I was thinking more Arkansas, but sure |
| [13:18:51] | Chicago: | ESPECIALLY Alabama |
| [13:19:00] | seth|laptop: | ack, is there a way to make this file smaller, or if I delete it, will it come back by itself? mysql adm 1203240438 Oct 6 09:15 mysql.log |
| [13:19:07] | fryfrog: | and Tennessesse, Arkansa, etc :) |
| [13:19:08] | opello: | quicksilver: and yet that doesn't cover a plain, hard plastic toothbrush, that doesn't flex at the neck :) |
| [13:19:21] | Beirdo: | seth|laptop, you can disable logging in my.cnf and restart mysql |
| [13:19:24] | fryfrog: | seth|laptop: I *think* that means you have mysql's binary logging turned *on* |
| [13:19:43] | seth|laptop: | I don't think I need a 1.2GB mysql log |
| [13:19:44] | seth|laptop: | :-) |
| [13:19:46] | Beirdo: | stupid distros that default to logging on. |
| [13:19:46] | fryfrog: | hehe |
| [13:19:55] | fryfrog: | Beirdo: know the option to turn it off? |
| [13:19:55] | ** Beirdo bitch-slaps ubuntu and debian ** | |
| [13:19:58] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [13:20:11] | seth|laptop: | my mythcenter froze up last night, ran out of disk space, gee, I wonder why, hehe |
| [13:20:15] | Beirdo: | in my.cnf, find any uncommented lines starting with "log" or "binary-log" |
| [13:20:20] | Beirdo: | AFAIK |
| [13:20:23] | Beirdo: | and comment em |
| [13:20:28] | fryfrog: | log-bin |
| [13:20:32] | fryfrog: | i think that is it |
| [13:20:34] | Beirdo: | sorry, I was close |
| [13:20:46] | fryfrog: | very close :) |
| [13:20:53] | Beirdo: | basically, any line that defines a log file of any type, comment em |
| [13:20:56] | Beirdo: | then restart mysqld |
| [13:20:57] | fryfrog: | it was in *mine* and not commented :) |
| [13:21:05] | fryfrog: | well, there is a mysql error log |
| [13:21:07] | Beirdo: | and blow away the hugeass log |
| [13:21:08] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [13:21:09] | fryfrog: | you might wanna leave *that* :p |
| [13:21:12] | Beirdo: | maybe :) |
| [13:21:28] | Beirdo: | apply some common sense, for sure |
| [13:21:38] | Beirdo: | but definitely find the line that defines the offending log file :) |
| [13:21:41] | seth|laptop: | what about the old file, ok to 'rm' |
| [13:21:51] | Beirdo: | once mysqld is restarted? sure |
| [13:21:52] | fryfrog: | after you reload mysql, should be fine |
| [13:21:54] | seth|laptop: | log = /var/log/mysql/mysql.log |
| [13:21:58] | seth|laptop: | not commented out |
| [13:22:00] | Beirdo: | that's the one |
| [13:22:03] | fryfrog: | yeah, nothing wrong with that |
| [13:22:13] | fryfrog: | no no, that is the daemon log i think? |
| [13:22:17] | Beirdo: | unless you are debugging mysql queries, that's unnecessary |
| [13:22:20] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [13:22:22] | Beirdo: | it's a query log |
| [13:22:24] | seth|laptop: | so comment it out, restart mysql, and then 'rm' the file, correct? |
| [13:22:27] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [13:22:39] | seth|laptop: | wicked, thanks |
| [13:22:57] | Beirdo: | I turn it on sometimes when I'm debugging my software, but usually want that puppy off :) |
| [13:23:01] | fryfrog: | ah, the only one i have besides bin-log was err-log |
| [13:23:05] | Beirdo: | especially with mythtv |
| [13:23:15] | fryfrog: | you might want to stop stuff that *depends* on mysql first |
| [13:23:18] | Beirdo: | it does a LOT of queries :) |
| [13:23:20] | fryfrog: | ie, mythbackend, apache, etc |
| [13:23:21] | Beirdo: | meh :) |
| [13:23:27] | Beirdo: | heh, wuss |
| [13:23:32] | fryfrog: | i know, big panzy i am :( |
| [13:23:40] | Beirdo: | if they wrote it right, it should reconnect |
| [13:23:44] | ** Beirdo glares at MythLogBot ** | |
| [13:23:48] | fryfrog: | ahah |
| [13:23:55] | Laney: | What's my best option for watching live tv from my backend on windows? |
| [13:24:20] | caitlin: | cygwin? |
| [13:24:24] | caitlin: | tee hee |
| [13:24:31] | Laney: | oh god |
| [13:24:37] | Beirdo: | I was thinking vmware |
| [13:24:40] | fryfrog: | smb mount, play the mpeg2 file |
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| [13:24:50] | Beirdo: | but anyways, I THINK someone's working on a Windows frontend |
| [13:24:50] | fryfrog: | isn't there some contrib script that will |
| [13:24:52] | fryfrog: | oh, live tv |
| [13:24:53] | fryfrog: | sorry |
| [13:24:56] | Beirdo: | but not sure how far they are |
| [13:25:13] | fryfrog: | why would you bother with livetv after your box has been setup for more than a few days? |
| [13:25:20] | seth|laptop: | before /dev/hda1 4828768 4205224 378956 92% / now /dev/hda1 4828768 3029032 1555148 67% / , what a difference, sheesh |
| [13:25:21] | Chicago: | I wonder if you can pipe /dev/v4l/video0 or whatever your tuner is to VLC... and then watch it from windows that way. |
| [13:25:21] | Beirdo: | wasn't that one of the SoC projects? |
| [13:25:26] | Laney: | mythstreamtv would be good but apparently it doesn't work |
| [13:25:34] | Laney: | ..with 0.20 that is |
| [13:25:34] | Beirdo: | seth|laptop, a BIG difference, eh? |
| [13:26:01] | Chicago: | Beirdo: I don't know if it was a SoC project... |
| [13:26:19] | fryfrog: | you know how some things require mysql headers to compile, ie for qt to compile with mysql support, it has to have mysql devel files? |
| [13:26:23] | Beirdo: | I guess I could look |
| [13:26:32] | fryfrog: | why would a qt compiled against mysql5 work with mysql4, out of curiosity? |
| [13:26:57] | Beirdo: | because the mysql protocol hasn't changed significantly since 3.23 |
| [13:27:07] | Beirdo: | they added some stuff, that's it |
| [13:27:10] | Chicago: | Depending on the tuner... it shouldn't be more than pipe into FFMPEG (directly or indirectly) and doing your de-interlacing and resizing/encoding. |
| [13:27:19] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [13:27:29] | fryfrog: | Beirdo: you run mysql 4 or 5? |
| [13:27:30] | Beirdo: | I have the bot testing with 3.23 client libs and 5.0 server and vice versa :) |
| [13:27:37] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [13:27:41] | Beirdo: | I run 3.23, 4.0, 4.1, 5.0 |
| [13:27:42] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [13:27:59] | fryfrog: | is there any notable issue with upgrading from 4.x -> 5.x? |
| [13:27:59] | Beirdo: | my main server is 4.0, but I have test servers for each for testing code ;) |
| [13:28:10] | fryfrog: | for some reason, i masked 5.x on my server but i don't recall why |
| [13:28:25] | Laney: | Would be interesting to see the status/outcome of these SoC projects. Is there anywhere?! |
| [13:28:28] | Beirdo: | never done the upgrade, but they suggest a data dump and reinsert after the upgrade |
| [13:28:43] | Beirdo: | Laney, let me look :) |
| [13:28:46] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [13:28:57] | seth|laptop: | hey, does this look like its getting the source from .20 svn ? – mythtv/i18n/mythfrontend_ca.qm |
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| [13:29:26] | Beirdo: | the main site is http://code.google.com/soc/ |
| [13:29:32] | Beirdo: | let's see if there's any progress |
| [13:29:45] | Laney: | I found http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/SoC2006 |
| [13:30:40] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [13:32:05] | seth|laptop: | so if i build svn .20 fixes, will my xvmc work again, :-) |
| [13:32:11] | opello: | http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/browser/branches/windows-port |
| [13:33:57] | Beirdo: | thank you, opello :) |
| [13:34:03] | quicksilver: | the SoC is a really cool thing |
| [13:34:10] | quicksilver: | but they shuold be told to report on their progress |
| [13:34:16] | opello: | Beirdo: np |
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| [13:34:32] | Laney: | Sweet, but it seems to be 0.19 :( |
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| [13:41:16] | DigerLAP: | Installation |
| [13:41:16] | DigerLAP: | In your BIOS, set the system to boot from CD. |
| [13:41:17] | DigerLAP: | At the splashscreen press: |
| [13:41:17] | DigerLAP: | for no TV out: |
| [13:41:17] | DigerLAP: | <ENTER> |
| [13:41:17] | DigerLAP: | with TV out: |
| [13:41:18] | DigerLAP: | tv<ENTER> |
| [13:41:20] | DigerLAP: | This will set your video adapter to a resolution of 800x600. |
| [13:41:24] | DigerLAP: | Note: You'll still need to edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 to change the refresh rate or you CAN destroy your TV. |
| [13:41:27] | DigerLAP: | how do I know the refresh rate of my tv |
| [13:41:29] | DigerLAP: | ? |
| [13:41:41] | fryfrog: | its a tv, they are all the same :) |
| [13:41:45] | fryfrog: | 60hz, right? |
| [13:41:46] | DigerLAP: | thought so |
| [13:41:53] | fryfrog: | unless you are PAL? |
| [13:41:58] | DigerLAP: | no ntsc |
| [13:48:16] | DigerLAP: | on a manual install, its notes – Note: During the making of partitions, you can choose any fstype you wish, ext2 is recommended for the live buffer (hda3) and ext3 for the data (hda4). - |
| [13:48:26] | DigerLAP: | so what should / be? |
| [13:49:07] | opello: | you could stick with ext3, it's a decent choice imo |
| [13:49:22] | DigerLAP: | thought I would |
| [13:49:37] | opello: | no reason that i can think of for a non-journaled root |
| [13:50:15] | quicksilver: | I wouldn't use ext2 for anything now that ext3 exists |
| [13:50:38] | opello: | i use ext2 for /boot |
| [13:51:03] | opello: | don't need the journal's overhead when it's mounted ro most of the time, and only rw when i copy over a new kernel |
| [13:51:11] | quicksilver: | but the overhead isn't noticeable |
| [13:51:20] | quicksilver: | if it's mounted ro it won't use the journal anyway.. |
| [13:51:42] | opello: | not just processing overhead |
| [13:52:12] | opello: | what about noatime? do you bother setting that on a fs that you don't care on? |
| [13:52:22] | opello: | s/fs/mountpoint/ i guess |
| [13:52:29] | quicksilver: | nope |
| [13:52:32] | opello: | *shrug* |
| [13:52:38] | quicksilver: | I don't see the point in such low-level tuning :P |
| [13:52:50] | quicksilver: | unless you had demonstrated to me that it was actually a bottleneck for my system |
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| [14:00:32] | Beirdo: | yeehaw... ride that netsplit |
| [14:00:41] | Beirdo: | dumbass network |
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| [14:02:25] | caitlin: | nice, that netsplit hosed my history |
| [14:02:32] | caitlin: | i should turn off connects |
| [14:03:55] | Beirdo: | !trout freenode netsplit |
| [14:03:55] | ** MythLogBot slaps freenode with a netsplit trout on behalf of Beirdo... ** | |
| [14:06:07] | fryfrog: | blamerayh is better :/ |
| [14:06:17] | fryfrog: | !blameray net-neutrality |
| [14:06:20] | fryfrog: | lame :( |
| [14:06:44] | fryfrog: | 10:06 <+fryfrog> ~blameray killing kittens |
| [14:06:44] | fryfrog: | 10:06 * gallery-bot blames itcheg for killing kittens |
| [14:07:07] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [14:07:23] | Beirdo: | so put in a ticket requesting it with details :) |
| [14:07:36] | Beirdo: | http://trac.beirdo.ca/projects/beirdobot/ |
| [14:07:37] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [14:07:54] | fryfrog: | i would, but i'm a lazy git :) |
| [14:08:01] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [14:08:04] | Beirdo: | F'argh |
| [14:08:20] | Beirdo: | I found a podcast I want, but they only distribute as itms?! |
| [14:08:28] | Beirdo: | how the hell can I use that in Linux? |
| [14:09:13] | Beirdo: | and it's FREE content too |
| [14:09:44] | Beirdo: | it's not like I'm trying to rip someone off. |
| [14:10:27] | fryfrog: | isn't there an itunes compatible linux app? |
| [14:10:31] | fryfrog: | i swear i read about it? |
| [14:10:49] | Beirdo: | hmm, haven't found one yet, that would be nice |
| [14:11:00] | caitlin: | or evil |
| [14:11:04] | caitlin: | ievil |
| [14:11:06] | caitlin: | ivil |
| [14:11:23] | fryfrog: | i could have sworn i read about one, (not apple written of course), but i could be wrong |
| [14:11:27] | fryfrog: | woudln't be the first time! |
| [14:11:42] | Beirdo: | hehe, you could well be right |
| [14:12:06] | fryfrog: | that'd be a first :p |
| [14:12:31] | fryfrog: | I'm sad, my dual xeon 2.4ghz is faster than my single amd64 3000+ |
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| [14:12:51] | Beirdo: | muhahaha |
| [14:13:02] | Beirdo: | I like my AMD64 boxen |
| [14:13:05] | fryfrog: | it makes my poor little backend cry |
| [14:13:13] | fryfrog: | i actually don't *think* it should be faster |
| [14:13:23] | fryfrog: | but of course, my dual xeon FE isn't doing *anything* else |
| [14:13:37] | fryfrog: | my backend has my soft raid5 array, apache, mysql, samba, etc, etc |
| [14:13:44] | ** seth|laptop just upgraded his frontend to a amd64 3200+, what a difference that made over the previous sempron 3000+ ** | |
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| [14:14:53] | fryfrog: | I think I might get a dual core amd64 for my server when i finally have the money to order another 320G drive for it too |
| [14:16:38] | seth|laptop: | now I may like to out xubuntu on the frontend, but I have not been able to locate a good resource for putting mythtv on it after the fact. |
| [14:17:05] | seth|laptop: | knoppmyth is not 64bit, but I have the 64 version of xubuntu |
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| [14:17:26] | fryfrog: | Beirdo: dumb question... mysqldump --all-databases dumps all the dbs |
| [14:17:29] | fryfrog: | how do you reload it? |
| [14:17:36] | fryfrog: | mysql -u -p < file? |
| [14:17:40] | caitlin: | yep |
| [14:17:43] | fryfrog: | ie, don't specifiy a db? |
| [14:17:44] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [14:17:55] | caitlin: | you stick a "use ..." in the top of the file |
| [14:18:03] | caitlin: | or you can specify a database |
| [14:18:12] | Beirdo: | yeah, pretty much |
| [14:18:16] | caitlin: | mysql -u -p databasename < file |
| [14:18:22] | caitlin: | iirc |
| [14:18:23] | caitlin: | wiud |
| [14:18:47] | Beirdo: | fun fun |
| [14:18:54] | Beirdo: | just setup another load of laundry |
| [14:19:04] | fryfrog: | 82M .sql file bzip2's to 10mb |
| [14:19:32] | caitlin: | mythlaundry? |
| [14:19:36] | caitlin: | i've not heard of that |
| [14:23:26] | Dibblah: | Ick. Ick ick ick. What's the maximum performance of a RAID1 for read under Linux? |
| [14:24:33] | Dibblah: | Of course, it's not (spindles * spindle speed). It's the speed of a single spindle. |
| [14:24:45] | Dibblah: | RAID1 is never faster than a single disk. |
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| [14:25:17] | ** xuxa hopes he hasn't missed the RAID discussion... ** | |
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| [14:26:07] | Dibblah: | Ummm... ? :) |
| [14:26:10] | xuxa: | I'm hoping to build a MythTV box (using KnoppMyth, perhaps) using RAID 5 |
| [14:26:24] | caitlin: | raid is silly |
| [14:26:25] | xuxa: | is it possible to set up raid in the KnoppMyth installer? |
| [14:26:26] | caitlin: | it's just tely |
| [14:26:32] | fryfrog: | Dibblah: RAID1 is faster than a single drive |
| [14:26:43] | Dibblah: | fryfrog: Look at the code. It's not. |
| [14:26:50] | fryfrog: | Dibblah: well, reading is faster |
| [14:26:56] | xuxa: | caitlin: this server will also be an archive for music and a backup server for other data |
| [14:26:58] | fryfrog: | Dibblah: because it can pick either drive to read from |
| [14:27:12] | fryfrog: | Dibblah: writing i'm sure is a bit slower, due to having to verify writes |
| [14:27:30] | Dibblah: | fryfrog: raid1.c, line 418 onward. |
| [14:27:59] | Dibblah: | It never picks another drive from the one it's currently reading from. |
| [14:28:04] | Dibblah: | Hardly ever, even. |
| [14:28:07] | Beirdo: | use a real RAID |
| [14:28:15] | Beirdo: | software RAID is sub-par. |
| [14:28:43] | Beirdo: | unfortunate, but true |
| [14:28:45] | Dibblah: | Beirdo: Yeah. I'm going to see if putting some sort of sensible balancer in there helps. round-robin'll do for a test :) |
| [14:28:50] | Beirdo: | better than NO RAID of course |
| [14:28:51] | xuxa: | Beirdo: I'm worried less about performance than I am ease of installation. I'm thinking a hardware raid card might save me a lot of frustration if software raid isn't supported in the knoppMyth installer |
| [14:29:17] | Dibblah: | Software RAID5 is better than the 'consumer' RAID cards under Linux. |
| [14:29:28] | Dibblah: | You have to spend a lot for anything worthwhile. |
| [14:29:29] | seth|laptop: | xuxa, I use the LVM script in knoppmyth, and it worked out well for me. |
| [14:29:34] | fryfrog: | xuxa: You'll need to spend good $$$ to get a real raid5 card |
| [14:29:43] | Dibblah: | Wow. An echo ;) |
| [14:29:49] | Beirdo: | meh |
| [14:29:56] | fryfrog: | xuxa: and most distros support raid during install, though i dunno about knopmyth |
| [14:30:01] | Beirdo: | $300CDN got me a decent RAID5 (HW) card |
| [14:30:09] | Dibblah: | Which card? |
| [14:30:13] | fryfrog: | thats the price of *3* 320G cards |
| [14:30:14] | Beirdo: | Adaptec |
| [14:30:16] | fryfrog: | 3ware? |
| [14:30:17] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [14:30:21] | Beirdo: | forget the model number |
| [14:30:23] | xuxa: | fryfrog: ah, I didn't know that raid 5 is more expensive hardware-wise. thanks |
| [14:30:27] | fryfrog: | er, s/cards/drives |
| [14:30:28] | Beirdo: | the 3ware woulda been $600 |
| [14:30:33] | xuxa: | seth|laptop: gotcha. thanks |
| [14:30:38] | seth|laptop: | i am only using the LVM to stripe 1 partition and 1 250GB drive, I have had no issues, they even provide an avenue to upgrade, and then just run a re-create script to reconfigure your LVM volume |
| [14:30:48] | fryfrog: | any raid5 done on motherboard or by a $50 card is done by the system cpu |
| [14:30:54] | Beirdo: | seth|laptop, just hope no drives die |
| [14:30:57] | xuxa: | seth|laptop: hrm... sounds cool |
| [14:30:57] | seth|laptop: | knoppmyth code is – create-lvm.sh |
| [14:31:15] | Beirdo: | fryfrog, mostly, but in some cases it's CPU-assisted (as in the XOR may be on the card) |
| [14:31:24] | Beirdo: | which is still faster than 100% CPU |
| [14:31:30] | seth|laptop: | you run it in the form 'create-lvm.sh /dev/hda3 /dev/hdb1' or whatever you have |
| [14:31:32] | Beirdo: | marginally :) |
| [14:31:46] | fryfrog: | shit, my raid5 only uses like 2–3% during heavy read/writes |
| [14:31:58] | fryfrog: | i'll sacrafice that to buy 3 extra drives :p |
| [14:32:07] | Beirdo: | 0000:00:09.0 RAID bus controller: Adaptec AAC-RAID (rev 01) |
| [14:32:07] | Beirdo: | Subsystem: Adaptec AAR-2410SA PCI SATA 4ch (Jaguar II) |
| [14:32:07] | fryfrog: | well, for personal stuff of course |
| [14:32:08] | Beirdo: | there |
| [14:32:09] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [14:32:18] | fryfrog: | if someone is *buying* the shit for me, scsi raid all the way! |
| [14:32:26] | Beirdo: | SATA RAID |
| [14:32:26] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [14:32:40] | fryfrog: | rar! |
| [14:32:48] | fryfrog: | 4 channels? wimp :) |
| [14:32:56] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [14:33:04] | Beirdo: | I don't have much space in the case :) |
| [14:33:20] | Beirdo: | got 4 * 300G Seagate SATA in there |
| [14:33:33] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [14:33:44] | antiProzac: | I was proud of my WD40GB IDE |
| [14:33:50] | Freman: | DAMN I love pioneer burners... what other burner could burn at 6x on the crapiest medium around reliably |
| [14:33:55] | Beirdo: | and an 80G Seagate as a system disk (IDE) |
| [14:33:57] | fryfrog: | MB has 8 ports onboard, 5x 320G & 2x 80G |
| [14:34:07] | fryfrog: | Freman: Plextor? |
| [14:34:20] | xuxa: | If I had an 8-port card that supports RAID 5, would it be possible to add drives later and have the system automatically add the new drive(s) to the array? |
| [14:34:33] | fryfrog: | xuxa: depends on the card and its support |
| [14:34:34] | Freman: | I take that back, 8,1x (the medium is the cheapest 1–8x dvd-r I could find) |
| [14:34:37] | xuxa: | I see |
| [14:34:49] | Freman: | It's called "Intact" |
| [14:34:50] | fryfrog: | with *software* raid5, that was recently added to the kernel (and i plan on doing it when i have some $$$) |
| [14:34:57] | antiProzac: | cant add to a already initialized raid 5. |
| [14:35:11] | Beirdo: | [4294674.075000] Vendor: ADAPTEC Model: optData Rev: V1.0 |
| [14:35:12] | Beirdo: | [4294674.075000] Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision |
| [14:35:14] | Beirdo: | : 02 |
| [14:35:15] | Beirdo: | eek |
| [14:35:15] | fryfrog: | antiProzac: that isn't true, soem cards support doing it |
| [14:35:18] | Beirdo: | [4294676.156000] SCSI device sda: 1757804544 512-byte hdwr sectors (899996 MB) |
| [14:35:19] | xuxa: | Freman: I'm a fan of Plextor CDRW drives too |
| [14:35:28] | Beirdo: | some cards WILL do it, many won't |
| [14:35:30] | antiProzac: | you would have to reinitialize the RAID. LVM can do it on a software level (so you dont really need a raid) |
| [14:35:37] | xuxa: | I see |
| [14:35:39] | xuxa: | that makes sense |
| [14:36:01] | fryfrog: | xuxa: if you want to expand your raid5 w/o losing data, you'll need to make sure its listed as a feature on the card |
| [14:36:06] | fryfrog: | or go with software raid |
| [14:36:08] | Beirdo: | RAID is for redundancy, not reconfigurability |
| [14:36:10] | fryfrog: | as an option... |
| [14:36:25] | fryfrog: | you could always *try* software raid, and if you can't do it in knop... buy the card later :) |
| [14:36:28] | Beirdo: | that whole 900G is one bigass partition with LVM on it :) |
| [14:36:34] | Beirdo: | that's true. |
| [14:36:48] | antiProzac: | install drives in 2. Mirror them(for redundancy) and add the new logical volume to a VolumeGroup |
| [14:37:02] | fryfrog: | antiProzac: thats lame :) |
| [14:37:09] | fryfrog: | use md to make raid5 |
| [14:37:10] | xuxa: | fryfrog: gotcha. I'm going to see what Cecil (from KnoppMyth) thinks about it. I'll let you know how it goes. |
| [14:37:11] | Beirdo: | mirroring them is RAID |
| [14:37:14] | Freman: | I had a pioneer before, 2kdvd's later it dies of old age (it's almost 3 years old), they tried to sell me an aopen (more coasters in 2 days then my ol pioneer had in 3 years) then a lite on (it wouldn't even start a burn, and that was tdk medium) |
| [14:37:17] | fryfrog: | add 1 drive to it, expand space by X |
| [14:37:18] | xuxa: | Thanks for all the advice, everyone! |
| [14:37:28] | antiProzac: | Beirdo: I didnt say it wasnt RAID |
| [14:37:34] | Beirdo: | ah :) |
| [14:37:54] | antiProzac: | Beirdo: my option is configurable and reduntant |
| [14:38:07] | antiProzac: | granted it isnt the way I would chose to divy up my disks |
| [14:38:27] | Dibblah: | Beirdo: What's write performance with that card? |
| [14:39:13] | fryfrog: | probably relativly crappy, like all raid5 :) |
| [14:39:56] | fryfrog: | got some onboard ram/battery to do write caching? |
| [14:40:44] | xuxa: | fryfrog: what do think of this card? |
| [14:40:46] | xuxa: | http://www.interproshop.com/commerce/catalog/ . . . 160145580785 |
| [14:42:06] | fryfrog: | Pretty much anything made by 3ware or adaptec is nice |
| [14:42:14] | fryfrog: | note that is PCI-X |
| [14:42:22] | fryfrog: | so you'll need a quite special motherboard |
| [14:42:31] | Beirdo: | not sure, but decent |
| [14:42:35] | fryfrog: | i'd suggest looking for a normal PCI or a PCI-E if you have a newer motherboard |
| [14:42:43] | Beirdo: | it'll be slower than raw drives, I'm sure |
| [14:43:40] | seth|laptop: | ok, apparently the svn script I ran this morning is finished, with the compiling and what not. How do I check my mythtv version? |
| [14:44:27] | Beirdo: | if I ever need more disk, I'll add another RAID, and upgrade to a bigger case... or something |
| [14:44:59] | Beirdo: | the other alternative would be to get a 1TB drive, transfer the LVM onto it, then remove the 300G disks from the array, rebuild using bigger disks |
| [14:45:02] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [14:45:17] | xuxa: | ah, yikes. Yeah, I don't have PCI-X on this mobo |
| [14:46:34] | Dibblah: | Beirdo: Shouldn't be that slow. I get 120Mbytes / sec from this 8 disk RAID5 (swraid) |
| [14:47:11] | Beirdo: | that read or write? |
| [14:47:47] | Dibblah: | Bugger. Sorry – That's total. 75Mbytes / sec write. |
| [14:48:02] | Dibblah: | Raw is ~60Mbytes / sec. |
| [14:48:04] | Beirdo: | measured with? |
| [14:48:09] | Dibblah: | dd / iostat |
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| [14:51:12] | fryfrog: | Dibblah: would you mind detailing how you did it? |
| [14:51:17] | fryfrog: | well, not the dd part |
| [14:51:19] | fryfrog: | i can do that :) |
| [14:52:01] | Dibblah: | ? It's just a Highpoint RR1820, with 8 disks attached. |
| [14:52:18] | Beirdo: | I think he meant the testing |
| [14:52:23] | Dibblah: | Oh. |
| [14:52:53] | Dibblah: | dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/null in one window, iostat -x 1 in another. |
| [14:53:02] | Dibblah: | Errr... |
| [14:53:07] | Dibblah: | Not quite, even. |
| [14:53:23] | Dibblah: | That, surprisingly enough, is quite fast as well. |
| [14:54:41] | Dibblah: | dd if=/dev/zero of=bob |
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| [14:57:15] | fryfrog: | 256000000 bytes (256 MB) copied, 2.41356 s, 106 MB/s |
| [14:57:28] | fryfrog: | dd outputs the speed for me, pretty consistantly close to 110mb / sec write |
| [14:58:04] | fryfrog: | read at almost 500mb/sec, but that has to be because it is cached |
| [14:58:41] | fryfrog: | let me make a file bigger than my ram |
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| [15:00:15] | fryfrog: | writing a 2.6G file is about 50mb / sec |
| [15:00:43] | fryfrog: | 80mb / sec |
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| [15:09:31] | seth|laptop: | what do I have to type in to see which version of mythtv I am running? |
| [15:10:05] | Beirdo: | bingo, fryfrog |
| [15:10:35] | Beirdo: | it's the filesystem caching that makes those tests a bit on the bogus side, really |
| [15:10:52] | Beirdo: | it will say it's done when it's just in memory, not on disk |
| [15:11:32] | hashbang: | fryfrog: not bad; an LSI MegaRAID 300–8x here tops out at ~30MB/s write/120MB/s read using hardware RAID, or 76MB/s write/103MB/s read using Linux md RAID over the raw discs |
| [15:11:35] | fryfrog: | yeah, testing file system speed isnt easy w/o someone's special tool |
| [15:11:35] | Beirdo: | makes benchmarking stuff a royal PITA |
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| [15:11:56] | hashbang: | Beirdo: make your read sizes larger than the total amount of RAM |
| [15:11:58] | fryfrog: | anyway, speed isn't to big a deal |
| [15:12:10] | fryfrog: | read/write speeds are generally faster than network read/write speeds anyway |
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| [15:12:16] | Beirdo: | it's write speeds that are hard to judge |
| [15:12:25] | fryfrog: | hashbang: it'll *still* cache as much as it can in ram |
| [15:12:29] | Beirdo: | but yeah, my RAID is fine for speed :) |
| [15:12:47] | Beirdo: | hdparm -tT shows the read speed at 33–40MB/s |
| [15:12:59] | hashbang: | fryfrog: RAID5 for all tests. RAID10 over 8 WD4000YRs managed 250MB/s write, 213MB/s read. :-) |
| [15:13:00] | Beirdo: | which is plenty for a fileserver |
| [15:13:13] | hashbang: | fryfrog: not if the sizes are >=2*RAM |
| [15:13:30] | hashbang: | fryfrog: as the second half will flush the first half and vice versa. |
| [15:13:42] | Beirdo: | it will still be affected by caching |
| [15:13:55] | hashbang: | Beirdo: minimal, if the sizes are that big. |
| [15:14:12] | fryfrog: | hashbang: well, 2.6G was more than 2x ram :) |
| [15:14:14] | fryfrog: | (1G) |
| [15:14:16] | hashbang: | Beirdo: you can check by comparing with the drive manufacturer's specs and see if it's in the right ballpark. |
| [15:14:26] | fryfrog: | 50mb/sec in one test, 80mb/sec in the otehr |
| [15:14:30] | fryfrog: | pretty big varience :( |
| [15:14:43] | Beirdo: | yeah, system activity can mess with it too |
| [15:14:47] | hashbang: | fryfrog: maybe the rebuild/resync was still in progress during the first test. |
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| [15:15:02] | fryfrog: | hashbang: no, my raid array has been in sync for months :) |
| [15:15:08] | fryfrog: | probably it was my other activity on the box |
| [15:15:30] | hashbang: | fryfrog: also, try tweaking around with blockdev --setra on the raw devices, the /dev/md* and LVM devices if you have any. |
| [15:15:47] | fryfrog: | what is blockdev? |
| [15:16:07] | hashbang: | fryfrog: I got significantly better performance increasing readahead to 8M (--setra 8192), but obv. real world usage will need to be tested and tuned. |
| [15:16:13] | fryfrog: | oh, allows setting of read ahead? |
| [15:16:17] | fryfrog: | neat |
| [15:16:18] | ** hashbang nods ** | |
| [15:16:25] | fryfrog: | is it sticky to reboot? |
| [15:16:33] | hashbang: | nope, chuck it in your initscripts |
| [15:16:39] | fryfrog: | do you need to do it on the raw devices *and* the md devices? |
| [15:16:46] | hashbang: | for i in /dev/sd*; do blockdev --setra 8192 $i; done |
| [15:17:38] | hashbang: | fryfrog: that's a very good question. ISTR that tweaking /dev/sd* then testing /dev/md* showed that the md* devices weren't inheriting the readahead |
| [15:17:52] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [15:18:01] | hashbang: | but YMMV |
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| [15:18:18] | hashbang: | fryfrog: obv. large blocks sizes will hurt small random IO ops |
| [15:18:32] | hashbang: | fryfrog: and help large IO ops (e.g. video playback!) |
| [15:19:56] | fryfrog: | that was read ahead, not block size? |
| [15:20:06] | fryfrog: | or you mean, if it tries to read ahead 8mb for a 1k file |
| [15:20:11] | fryfrog: | it'll be a huge waste |
| [15:20:24] | Dibblah: | The RA is on the block device. |
| [15:20:26] | fryfrog: | looks like my default was 256k |
| [15:20:34] | Dibblah: | It doesn't know anything about the FS. |
| [15:20:58] | Dibblah: | 8192 will be too much in most cases, due to fragmentation. |
| [15:21:36] | fryfrog: | xfs_fsr :) |
| [15:21:45] | fryfrog: | well, true for my reiserfs though :/ |
| [15:21:57] | Dibblah: | Hmmm... Simple round-robin doesn't help as a scheduler for RAID1. |
| [15:22:01] | hashbang: | Dibblah: yeah, 8192 was optimal for my highly-artificial tests on empty block devices/filesystems |
| [15:22:32] | Dibblah: | (I get 20Mb/s as opposed to 50 from the individual disk) |
| [15:23:00] | fryfrog: | is it doing a *comparison* on read? |
| [15:23:06] | Dibblah: | No. |
| [15:23:13] | fryfrog: | cause reading from a raid1 should be *at least* as fast as from a single disk |
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| [15:23:43] | Dibblah: | With the current scheduler, and sequential reads, it can *only* be as fast as a single disk. |
| [15:24:01] | hashbang: | fryfrog: it generally is, but most RAID1 implementations seem to prefer to assign a single read thread to a single spindle, rather than split between multiple spindles |
| [15:24:24] | Dibblah: | If you have a RAID1, try watching iostat -x 1 while doing a dd. It all comes from 1 disk. |
| [15:24:29] | hashbang: | fryfrog: RAID1 /could/ do like RAID0 for reads, conceivably, though. |
| [15:25:09] | hashbang: | fryfrog: of course, RAID1 done the way it usually is will degrade more slowly as the IO load increases. |
| [15:26:00] | fryfrog: | I *swear* hardware raid 1 is supposed to send the read request to *both* drives and it then uses which ever responds first |
| [15:26:11] | fryfrog: | maybe software doesn't work the same way? |
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| [15:26:16] | Dibblah: | Hardware, maybe. Not Linux SW RAID. |
| [15:26:29] | fryfrog: | cause you are right, raid1 *should* be able to read block X from drive 1, block Y from drive 2 |
| [15:26:40] | fryfrog: | and assemble them together on the fly like raid0 (or raid5 really) |
| [15:26:47] | Dibblah: | Linux leaves the heads intentionally scattered around the disks. |
| [15:27:07] | fryfrog: | but does it only request files from *one* drive? |
| [15:27:10] | Dibblah: | On the assumption that reads will be interleaved, not truly sequential. |
| [15:27:15] | fryfrog: | ie, it doesn't say "hey yall, give me X"? |
| [15:27:33] | Dibblah: | fryfrog: One drive. If it's a sequential read. |
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| [15:27:46] | Paladine: | yellow :) |
| [15:28:01] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [15:29:31] | fryfrog: | oh well, at least its safe :) |
| [15:29:56] | fryfrog: | i can't believe my stupid issue with raid was all due to not setting the fd partition type :p |
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| [15:36:07] | Beirdo: | !trout riksta flood |
| [15:36:07] | ** MythLogBot slaps riksta with a flood trout on behalf of Beirdo... ** | |
| [15:36:30] | seth|laptop: | question? if I have a show set to commflag, and auto-transcode, will the resulting programme be edited for commercials, or will I still have to do that after the fact? |
| [15:39:23] | riksta: | piss off :P |
| [15:39:25] | riksta: | flood? |
| [15:39:39] | fryfrog: | seth|laptop: after |
| [15:39:48] | fryfrog: | seth|laptop: the commflagging isn't 100% accurate |
| [15:40:03] | fryfrog: | seth|laptop: so instead of fucking you over by chopping out 10,20 or half of your show :p |
| [15:40:18] | fryfrog: | seth|laptop: I think the best method is to auto-comm flag, but not transcode |
| [15:40:28] | fryfrog: | then, you load up the commerical cut list and transcode |
| [15:40:35] | fryfrog: | that way, you won't waste time transcoding commercials |
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| [15:43:16] | seth|laptop: | ah, good to know |
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| [15:43:48] | seth|laptop: | BSG is running the series up to tonight, and I automatically commflag, but noticed the auto-trancode option in mythweb |
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| [15:50:51] | seth|laptop: | wow, after upgrading to myth .20 and an AMD64 3200+ mythcommflag no longer kills my box – http://www.mad-penguin.org/mythtv/d-shot.PNG |
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| [16:10:06] | seth|laptop: | if I add a bigger hard drive to a slave backend, will the master /myth folder utilize it, or does it have to be added to the master backend? |
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| [16:13:51] | xris: | seth|laptop: each backend records to whichever directory you tell it to. |
| [16:14:09] | xris: | so if you just have to configure your slave to point to the new drive and it'll put its recordings there. |
| [16:14:26] | seth|laptop: | well right now the slave /myth/tv is ln 'd to the nfs master /myth folder |
| [16:16:44] | xris: | figured. you'll need to split it up |
| [16:16:57] | xris: | that is, if you want the drive in the slave and not the master. |
| [16:17:53] | seth|laptop: | i guess I was more concerned with the shows being on 2 seperate boxes drives, if they woiuld still be accessible from any one frontend |
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| [16:19:35] | seth|laptop: | as they are all using 1 mysql database, this seems quite possible, the frontend would just have to know where to pull the data from |
| [16:20:27] | seth|laptop: | and as long as the masterfrontend, can schedule recordings for a slave's tuners, then the project will be complete |
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| [16:21:19] | seth|laptop: | i can keep my HD content/tuners on the front/back combo, and keep the SD content/tuners on the the slave |
| [16:21:51] | seth|laptop: | SD would be easier to pull from the network than HD anyways. |
| [16:22:09] | ShockValue: | wonder what would make the best I/O schedular for a mythfrontend |
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| [16:30:54] | xris: | seth|laptop: the whole point of master backends is that things are stored separately. the frontend queries the master for a show, and it replies with which backend has it. the frontend then requests the show from the specific backend that has the recording you want to watch. |
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| [16:43:31] | seth|laptop: | excellent |
| [16:43:34] | seth|laptop: | thanks |
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| [16:56:09] | dennis|nb: | hi...i have a problem with my hauppauge nova-s |
| [16:56:18] | dennis|nb: | when i start alsamixer i get a kernel oops |
| [16:56:46] | dennis|nb: | with lots of messages like: EIP is at snd_cx88_capture_volume_get+0xb/0x30 [cx88_alsa] |
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| [17:09:37] | CyberKnet: | *yawn* |
| [17:09:58] | Hoxzer: | *Haarr* |
| [17:10:10] | CyberKnet: | I finally checked the mythtv website after about six months of not checking. |
| [17:10:11] | CyberKnet: | heh |
| [17:10:13] | ** Hoxzer wants to get automatical commercial skip work ** | |
| [17:10:17] | CyberKnet: | awful nice of simech |
| [17:10:30] | gonzzor: | Is there some known problem that a recording won't show up in the media library... The file exists in the Filesystem and in the DB but it won't show... So I can't watch my recordings... LiveTV recordings works... |
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| [17:17:09] | CyberKnet: | hey o_cee ;) |
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| [17:38:53] | Fnc-1: | morning all |
| [17:39:48] | Hoxzer: | :P it is 8pm here |
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| [18:17:39] | stf: | hello |
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| [18:18:19] | immolo: | Is there anything else other then the radiotimes site uk users can use for programme listings |
| [18:18:20] | stf: | Did any body have compiled the cvs version of mythtv 20 !?! |
| [18:18:21] | immolo: | ? |
| [18:19:19] | kormoc: | stf, there is no cvs version of myth... now, there is a svn version... |
| [18:19:22] | fryfrog: | i doubt it |
| [18:19:27] | fryfrog: | damnit, you are to fast! |
| [18:19:32] | kormoc: | heh |
| [18:19:53] | stf: | <kormoc> OK the svn version |
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| [18:20:10] | kormoc: | yeah, lots of people have |
| [18:20:36] | stf: | I have some problem with the mysql connection |
| [18:21:16] | stf: | the svn version is the 11451 |
| [18:21:52] | kormoc: | you could, you know, just tell us the problem... |
| [18:22:05] | kormoc: | rather then hoping we can just read your mind or something. |
| [18:22:12] | fryfrog: | no, stop don't! |
| [18:22:18] | fryfrog: | i've been honing my mind reading skills |
| [18:22:31] | fryfrog: | it fails to compile, complaining about mysql for some reason? |
| [18:22:51] | fryfrog: | also... i'm sad to say you will get bad news this month, possibly health related. or maybe not |
| [18:24:43] | kaiforce: | heh |
| [18:24:55] | fryfrog: | So this guy I sent a pair of PVR250's aparantly quit about an hour before they arrived. Aparantly, he quit on bad terms too |
| [18:25:00] | Dagmar: | Looks like the usual first round of detail to me |
| [18:25:02] | kaiforce: | anyone know if mythstreamtv is still under active development/ |
| [18:25:09] | fryfrog: | i wonder how he might get the package :/ |
| [18:25:53] | Dagmar: | fryfrog: Either it will come back to you refused delivery, return to sender, or the post office will be very interested in knowing a package was intercepted by an unauthorized third party |
| [18:25:58] | kormoc: | fryfrog, did you send it near seattle? cause if you did, I could go pick it up and hold them for him... :P |
| [18:27:20] | fryfrog: | I sent it to his work address aparantly, and someone signed for it |
| [18:27:33] | fryfrog: | it was insured for $100 and delivery confirmed too, by the USPS |
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| [18:27:54] | fryfrog: | I'm pretty sure it is a crime for them to keep it, since it *is* addressed to *him* specficially |
| [18:28:23] | fryfrog: | I think maybe he just doesn't *want* to go back and say "hey, a package came for me after i quit" but i dunno how *bad* the quitting was |
| [18:28:38] | kormoc: | well, you got paid, right? |
| [18:30:23] | fryfrog: | it was a swap |
| [18:30:29] | fryfrog: | 2x pvr250 for 1x pvr500 |
| [18:30:48] | fryfrog: | i've not gotten the pvr500 yet, but i have ups traking info saying it will arrive on oct 10th |
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| [18:31:19] | fryfrog: | hopefully it won't be a box of sand or something :) |
| [18:32:17] | ** seth|laptop should get his 2nd air2pc card today ** | |
| [18:32:18] | kaiforce: | well if you have a sandbox you can still use it :) |
| [18:32:41] | kaiforce: | fryfrog why did he want to make that swap? |
| [18:33:15] | kaiforce: | any advantage to having two 250s? splitting them across systems i guess. |
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| [18:36:09] | fryfrog: | kaiforce: he had one of the few motherboards that *doesn't* support a PVR500 |
| [18:36:19] | fryfrog: | I think an Asus A8N or something? |
| [18:36:38] | fryfrog: | aparantly, the pvr500 has a pci bridge on it (so it can be 2 pci cards on one slot) |
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| [18:37:14] | fryfrog: | and the mb he has already *has* a pci bridge so it gets confused |
| [18:37:16] | fryfrog: | or something |
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| [18:39:13] | Ediehow: | anyone using irblaster? |
| [18:39:18] | Ediehow: | or an ir blaster |
| [18:39:29] | fryfrog: | serial here, sorry :( |
| [18:39:57] | Ediehow: | fryfrog, do you use a blaster? |
| [18:40:12] | fryfrog: | no, i said i use a serial cable right to the box |
| [18:40:18] | Ediehow: | oh ok |
| [18:40:31] | fryfrog: | and today i get my pair of HD STBs! |
| [18:40:45] | Ediehow: | any experience with usb-uirt? |
| [18:40:49] | Ediehow: | i have support installed for it, supposedly |
| [18:40:56] | fryfrog: | none, none at all :) |
| [18:40:58] | fryfrog: | i |
| [18:40:59] | Ediehow: | but irrecord -l foo.conf doesn't seem to pick up a lot of my remote's buttons |
| [18:41:06] | fryfrog: | i haven't ever hooked up a usb -> serial adapter |
| [18:41:08] | Ediehow: | my stb remote |
| [18:41:16] | Ediehow: | fryfrog, no adapter used |
| [18:41:22] | Ediehow: | usb-uirt is straight usb |
| [18:41:25] | fryfrog: | OHHH |
| [18:41:30] | fryfrog: | still, no experience with ti:) |
| [18:41:34] | fryfrog: | does it show up in "lsusb"? |
| [18:41:39] | fryfrog: | dmesg have anything about it? |
| [18:41:46] | Ediehow: | i don't think that's an issue |
| [18:41:51] | Ediehow: | it's the irrecord portion |
| [18:42:00] | Ediehow: | irsend is not properly changing channels |
| [18:42:32] | fryfrog: | ah |
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| [18:43:08] | michthom: | Hello all |
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| [18:44:49] | kaiforce: | fryfrog: interesting... good to know |
| [18:46:07] | seth|laptop: | if I have a tuner card, connected to the output(coax) from a settop box, but the card is in the slave, and the settop box is above the master (different end of the house) is it still possible to call the channel change script from the slave, that will be doing the recording? |
| [18:46:29] | fryfrog: | WTF???? |
| [18:46:46] | fryfrog: | Okay, so your *tuner* card is perm-fixed to chan 3 by mythtv |
| [18:46:47] | seth|laptop: | in other words the irblaster is hooked up on the master (appologies0 |
| [18:46:53] | seth|laptop: | yes |
| [18:46:55] | fryfrog: | and you give it a channel change script |
| [18:46:56] | seth|laptop: | actually 4 |
| [18:47:07] | fryfrog: | k |
| [18:47:12] | fryfrog: | what do you mean it is above the master? |
| [18:47:13] | seth|laptop: | the cahnnel change script will be on the master |
| [18:47:20] | fryfrog: | why? |
| [18:47:23] | michthom: | Why not have the channel change script on the slave run an ssh to the master to run it from there? |
| [18:47:28] | fryfrog: | because it has the actual connection? |
| [18:47:31] | seth|laptop: | the dish receiver is in the family room above the master frontend box |
| [18:47:45] | fryfrog: | okay, so the *box* is hooked to the master's serial |
| [18:47:47] | seth|laptop: | the slave is in the office, with the connected tuner card |
| [18:47:51] | fryfrog: | slaves tuner? |
| [18:47:51] | seth|laptop: | yes |
| [18:47:53] | seth|laptop: | sorry |
| [18:47:53] | fryfrog: | easy |
| [18:47:55] | fryfrog: | ssh |
| [18:48:01] | seth|laptop: | didnt know the right way to word it |
| [18:48:08] | fryfrog: | make your channel change command like "ssh -e /usr/bin/channel |
| [18:48:21] | fryfrog: | you will need to setup an ssh key trust betwen the slave and the master |
| [18:48:29] | fryfrog: | and i would limit the user to *just* running that command |
| [18:48:51] | kaiforce: | what about rsh? |
| [18:48:53] | seth|laptop: | well I have a "common" folder between the 2 boxes, in the /myth folder, could I not just change the channel command to /mythmaster:/myth/common/channel_channge.sh |
| [18:49:10] | fryfrog: | ssh would be more secure and safe, plus i don't know anything about rsh :) |
| [18:49:16] | kaiforce: | i haven't used rsh, but I thought this was the type of thing it was for |
| [18:49:25] | fryfrog: | seth|laptop: no, because it would still be executing the script localy |
| [18:49:25] | seth|laptop: | rather mythmaster:/myth/common/channel_change.sh |
| [18:49:40] | fryfrog: | ie, it'd be like using samba (or windows) to share firefox |
| [18:49:50] | michthom: | Any of the r* commands are fairly open to abuse, but if you're confident your network is secure, go ahead |
| [18:49:54] | fryfrog: | even if your firefox is *on* box a, if you visit box a's share on box b... firefox runs on box b |
| [18:50:04] | kaiforce: | ah so rsh would be like a telnet type deal |
| [18:50:08] | fryfrog: | yeah |
| [18:50:12] | fryfrog: | in fact, i think it *uses* telnet |
| [18:50:14] | kaiforce: | yep ssh way to go |
| [18:50:28] | fryfrog: | ssh can simply take an arg to execute a command and exit |
| [18:50:43] | seth|laptop: | what would be the syntax for that? |
| [18:50:43] | fryfrog: | and you can use an ssh key to allow the slave to ssh to master |
| [18:50:48] | fryfrog: | then |
| [18:50:56] | seth|laptop: | i can ssh between them now |
| [18:51:02] | fryfrog: | on the master ssh server, setup the sshd to allow the slave 's user to *only* run one command |
| [18:51:13] | michthom: | ssh user@host -e command (I believe) |
| [18:51:13] | fryfrog: | you need to be able to ssh w/o a password of any kind |
| [18:51:33] | seth|laptop: | paswordless ssh, I do that here in the datacenter |
| [18:52:00] | fryfrog: | sorry, it is *not* -e |
| [18:52:15] | seth|laptop: | so set up passwordless ssh, then change the channel command to 'ssh mythtv@mythmaster -e channel_change.sh |
| [18:52:16] | michthom: | Oops |
| [18:52:24] | michthom: | Just read the man page – my bad. |
| [18:52:42] | michthom: | -e is escape char |
| [18:52:50] | fryfrog: | [user@]hostname [command] |
| [18:53:05] | fryfrog: | so aparantly, just doing "ssh mythtv@master finger" would work |
| [18:53:57] | michthom: | On a different note, has anyone come across the situation where scheduled recording and playback work fine, but you can't enter LiveTV? |
| [18:54:28] | michthom: | I'm baffled. Can't see anything useful in my "-v all" logs on backor frontend |
| [18:54:31] | seth|laptop: | so to clarify 'ssh mythtv@mythmaster channel_change.sh' |
| [18:54:53] | fryfrog: | seth|laptop: test it on command line, it should be obvious if that is right :) |
| [18:55:02] | fryfrog: | in mine, i needed to add some --options |
| [18:55:04] | seth|laptop: | ok |
| [18:55:05] | michthom: | Tried searching mailing lists, wikis and FAQs, posted to -users and -dev but no responses. |
| [18:55:06] | Dagmar: | Provided that script is in the PATH set by the sshd, which is not necessarily the same PATH you see when you login |
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| [18:55:16] | fryfrog: | btw, why is it recording so far away? |
| [18:55:26] | fryfrog: | why not put the card in the master which is hooked to it *and* right there? |
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| [18:56:02] | fryfrog: | Dagmar: good point, you should give it the full path |
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| [18:56:11] | fryfrog: | michthom: -v all on the BE or FE? |
| [18:56:13] | fryfrog: | or both? |
| [18:56:20] | fryfrog: | michthom: and what are the symptoms? |
| [18:56:29] | fryfrog: | immediatly exits live tv? sits at a black screen? |
| [18:56:38] | michthom: | fryfrog: Both be and fe. |
| [18:56:43] | fryfrog: | weird |
| [18:56:54] | fryfrog: | i thought i screwed something up when i hit "watch tv" and it kept jsut poping back out |
| [18:57:01] | fryfrog: | turns out all inputs were being used to record :/ |
| [18:57:01] | michthom: | fryfrog: Symptoms are it starts the recording, switches channels OK, then aborts back to the menu |
| [18:57:04] | fryfrog: | but it didn't *mention* |
| [18:57:15] | fryfrog: | wait, you mean you can start livetv... |
| [18:57:19] | fryfrog: | but you can change channels? |
| [18:57:36] | michthom: | fryfrog: I can then schedule a recording of the in-progress show and it records just fine |
| [18:57:44] | fryfrog: | oh |
| [18:57:46] | fryfrog: | weird :p |
| [18:57:49] | michthom: | nono, LiveTV will not start |
| [18:57:52] | fryfrog: | are you using 0.20? |
| [18:57:56] | fryfrog: | or 0.20 – fixes? |
| [18:57:57] | michthom: | But the channel change is fine |
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| [18:58:03] | michthom: | 0.20-fixes, from ATRPMS |
| [18:58:06] | fryfrog: | ah |
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| [18:58:12] | fryfrog: | anything odd about channel changing? |
| [18:58:16] | fryfrog: | is it using an external script? |
| [18:58:18] | fryfrog: | built in tuner? |
| [18:58:20] | fryfrog: | firewire? |
| [18:58:22] | fryfrog: | etc, etc |
| [18:58:27] | michthom: | Don't think so. I'm using a red-eye remote |
| [18:58:35] | fryfrog: | sorry, what? |
| [18:58:36] | michthom: | RS232 module |
| [18:58:45] | fryfrog: | is that how myth changes the channel to your STB? |
| [18:58:52] | skyspy247BB: | Hi All, anyone know why minimyth boots OK from network but fails on loading minimyth.conf ... I've put it everwhere !!! |
| [18:58:57] | michthom: | http://www.redremote.co.uk/serial/index.html |
| [18:59:00] | michthom: | Yep |
| [18:59:13] | fryfrog: | my "channels" program has a timeout that you can increase |
| [18:59:16] | fryfrog: | i had to increase mine |
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| [18:59:51] | michthom: | Well the channel change script works perfectly for scheduled recordings – could there be a *different* timeout for LiveTV? Didn't think of that... |
| [19:00:33] | michthom: | It takes about 5 seconds all told to turn on, emit the signals to the IR receiver and exit |
| [19:01:31] | fryfrog: | i'm not sure, i just know that for some channels mine would time out and myth wouldn't record or show it |
| [19:01:41] | fryfrog: | but i upped the time out (it was a script option, not myth) and it was fine |
| [19:02:16] | fryfrog: | ie, my "channel change script" was "/usr/bin/channel -d /dev/ttyS0 -t 2" instead of "/usr/bin/channel" |
| [19:02:33] | michthom: | 2006-10–03 23:48:31.950 External channel change: /usr/local/bin/red_eye 106 |
| [19:02:33] | michthom: | 2006-10–03 23:48:31.956 Waiting for External Tuning program to exit |
| [19:02:33] | michthom: | 2006-10–03 23:48:32.956 ret_pid(0) child(3806) status(0x0) |
| [19:02:33] | michthom: | 2006-10–03 23:48:33.960 ret_pid(0) child(3806) status(0x0) |
| [19:02:33] | michthom: | 2006-10–03 23:48:34.964 ret_pid(0) child(3806) status(0x0) |
| [19:02:33] | michthom: | 2006-10–03 23:48:35.968 ret_pid(0) child(3806) status(0x0) |
| [19:02:35] | michthom: | 2006-10–03 23:48:36.972 ret_pid(0) child(3806) status(0x0) |
| [19:02:37] | michthom: | 2006-10–03 23:48:37.976 ret_pid(0) child(3806) status(0x0) |
| [19:02:39] | michthom: | 2006-10–03 23:48:38.981 ret_pid(3806) child(3806) status(0x0) |
| [19:02:41] | michthom: | 2006-10–03 23:48:38.981 External Tuning program no longer running |
| [19:02:43] | michthom: | 2006-10–03 23:48:38.981 External Tuning program exited with no error |
| [19:02:47] | michthom: | So I was optimistic – 7 seconds :-) |
| [19:02:57] | kormoc: | michthom, please don't flood the channel |
| [19:03:11] | michthom: | Sorry kormoc |
| [19:04:23] | skyspy247BB: | Also, anyone know why why "watch recordings lists 11 "Live TV" entries but at the next step it says "no recordings available" ... Thanks !! |
| [19:04:36] | michthom: | Oh well. I can live withut LiveTV for now. |
| [19:05:11] | Anduin: | skyspy247BB: hit m |
| [19:05:16] | michthom: | skyspy: is it set to show the recording group list at start? |
| [19:05:40] | michthom: | (or whatever that's called? |
| [19:06:49] | skyspy247BB: | Anduin I'm not registered ... very new to this irc thing ... |
| [19:07:13] | Anduin: | skyspy247BB: hit m in the Watch Recordings screen and change your filter. |
| [19:09:35] | skyspy247BB: | Anduin ... sorry for bein' such a noob ... and thanks for the hint ... it worked !!!! |
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| [19:12:16] | skyspy247BB: | minimyth users ???? boots fine from the network but fails to load minimyth.conf ..... any ideas??? |
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| [19:14:32] | kaiforce: | anyone know the status of mythstreamtv? |
| [19:14:53] | kaiforce: | anyone still working on it, or has it been supplanted with a new project, or am I SOL? |
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| [19:23:54] | GreyFoxx: | I saw a patch once that made mythstreamtv work with 0.19, but otherthan that I haven't seen any work on it |
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| [19:45:47] | Fnc-1: | i had mythstream working on .19 |
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| [20:20:34] | Mattwj2005: | hey eveyone :) |
| [20:20:55] | caitlin: | hey dr nick |
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| [20:43:15] | fuffalo-: | can i use a pvr-150 alongside a pvr-500 |
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| [20:46:37] | jaymode: | fuffalo: i know others have that setup working |
| [20:49:15] | fuffalo-: | and if i already have a remote/irblaster with my pvr-150, can i get the oem pvr-500? |
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| [20:55:35] | feld: | fuffalo-: yes |
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| [20:55:50] | feld: | i have a pvr-250 with IR and my 150-MCE doesnt have remote abilities |
| [20:55:58] | feld: | you lnly need to control the system with one remote, no matter where it comes from. |
| [20:56:04] | feld: | *you only |
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| [20:56:57] | Dagmar: | Amazing |
| [20:57:05] | Dagmar: | Brain death is reaching epidemic levels |
| [20:57:21] | degreseven: | is there a way to set separate keys for browsing through channels (select to change channels) and immediately changing channels? |
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| [21:29:23] | degreseven: | is there a way to tell mythmusic to sort directories above files? |
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| [21:34:23] | Mattwj2005: | hey guys |
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| [21:51:43] | Mersault: | Is there a way to get mytharchive to order recordings on the dvd properly (they always turn out 2, 1, 3 or something, never 1, 2 ,3 like they should), and to pick a different frame for the screenshot? |
| [21:52:50] | poutine: | Hello does anyone have a way to use the serial port on a pioneer digital cable or satellite box for IR? |
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| [21:53:46] | slide: | Is there any way to add a show that ive downloaded into mythtv? |
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| [21:56:37] | kormoc: | slide, mythvideo |
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| [22:03:44] | sos: | quick question while running mythbackend, when run it without arguements, no issues, when it runs with --daemon or -d, then it tries connecting to a local mysql db, instead of the one specified in mysql.txt |
| [22:04:39] | sos: | running an strace on the daemon, it doesn't try open mysql.txt (in any location) |
| [22:05:56] | sos: | (note, the one specified in the mysql.txt file is a remote mysql server) |
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| [22:11:10] | slide: | kormoc, no way to introduce them into the tv system? |
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| [22:18:11] | kormoc: | slide, add them by hand to the db |
| [22:18:21] | slide: | blah heh |
| [22:19:53] | Cardoe: | hrm |
| [22:20:02] | Cardoe: | ivtv 0.8.0 decided it was gonna stop compiling for me |
| [22:23:32] | fryfrog: | your new ebuilds worked fine for me |
| [22:24:32] | Cardoe: | yeah it worked fine when I originally emerged it |
| [22:24:38] | Cardoe: | now it decided not to |
| [22:25:00] | fryfrog: | weird |
| [22:25:04] | fryfrog: | lemme try again on mine |
| [22:27:10] | Cardoe: | I was just trying to test the diff versions |
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| [22:29:54] | nordle: | hello, mythvideo, I placed a couple of divx5 files into the directory I designated during setup. Mythtv is already running, when I go to videos it shows nothing. Does the database need to be made aware of the files, or does the frontend do a scan upon loading or...? (online docs are a little thin on any explantions). |
| [22:29:58] | Anduin: | nordle: Unless you use the file browse mode for a view, yes you need to enter the video manager to get a scan. |
| [22:30:21] | nordle: | Anduin: damn that was fast ;) |
| [22:30:51] | Anduin: | nordle: I typed it while you were asking in the wrong channel, it was only slow because I was in another window :) |
| [22:33:34] | nordle: | Anduin: cheers, appreciate it...... I swear Im gonna write up my own howto, ok theres millions out there already but everyones use is different I guess. |
| [22:34:07] | Anduin: | nordle: Add to the manual on the wiki |
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| [22:37:05] | nordle: | Anduin: mmm, Im a bit crap, I totally missed the wiki, I was just reading the stuff under "Documentation"......blimey, the wiki is really far ahead of that. Thats the trouble, I just dived in and started doing it, googling errors as I went, rather than spend a decent amount of time looking at what was already there. Alot of times wikis are not as maintained as that one looks. |
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| [22:38:03] | Anduin: | The looks are probably deceiving, but yeah, it is the place to add general help for the components. |
| [22:38:43] | kormoc: | nordle, that's the beauty of wikis. anyone can maintain them if they want, so really, even if it looks unmaintained, you can |
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| [22:39:40] | Dagmar: | ...and if you're looking to advertise your company's new penis enlargment product or highly experimental placebo drug, wikis are also your friend. |
| [22:39:47] | dennis|nb: | hi, i have a hauppauge nova-s and just have installed the v4l-dvb drivers, but it doesnt create the /dev/dvb but a /dev/video0 file |
| [22:39:50] | Anduin: | Most are just further proof that no one likes to document things, even people who complain about lacking docs. |
| [22:40:01] | dennis|nb: | anyone an idea? |
| [22:40:10] | Dagmar: | Anduin: People should learn to read documentation before they complain of it's lack. |
| [22:40:28] | Anduin: | Dagmar: I'll hold my breath if you will. |
| [22:40:47] | Dagmar: | I think I'll just have a nice cool glass of freshly squeezed hemlock. |
| [22:41:02] | roger55: | dennis|nb, did you modprobe the module for the card and the frontend? |
| [22:41:09] | kormoc: | Mmm... Forbidden poison... |
| [22:41:13] | ** kormoc homer drools ** | |
| [22:41:25] | dennis|nb: | roger55, dmesg looks like that |
| [22:41:51] | dennis|nb: | but i am not sure |
| [22:42:24] | roger55: | dennis|nb, what do you mean? |
| [22:42:55] | dennis|nb: | this is what dmesg prints: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/4114/ |
| [22:44:04] | dennis|nb: | but it should create a /dev/dvb not a /dev/video or am i wrong? |
| [22:44:51] | roger55: | dennis|nb, I think I have the same or a similar card, let me check |
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| [22:44:58] | dennis|nb: | thank you |
| [22:45:32] | roger55: | dennis|nb, in the meantime pastebin the output of: lsmod |
| [22:46:08] | dennis|nb: | http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/4115/ |
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| [22:49:44] | roger55: | dennis|nb, http://rafb.net/paste/results/nIv7aU25.html is mine |
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| [22:51:38] | dennis|nb: | roger55, modprobe cx88-dvb |
| [22:51:43] | dennis|nb: | now it seems to work |
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| [22:51:59] | dennis|nb: | how can i set this up that he loads the module on boot time? |
| [22:52:50] | roger55: | dennis|nb, I don't know how ubuntu does that. in gentoo you simply add the modulename on a new line in /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 |
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| [22:53:21] | dennis|nb: | hm perhaps here: |
| [22:53:22] | dennis|nb: | # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time. |
| [22:53:29] | dennis|nb: | could that be correct? |
| [22:53:36] | roger55: | sounds like it is. |
| [22:53:58] | Mersault: | Is there a way to get mytharchive to order recordings on the dvd properly (they always turn out 2, 1, 3 or something, never 1, 2 ,3 like they should), and to pick a different frame for the screenshot? |
| [22:55:47] | whosit: | I have a problem with the new internal player, when I play either a DVD or an ISO of a DVD I get a partial scrambled image; it kinda looks like a mosaic on part of the screen. Any help? |
| [22:56:20] | dennis|nb: | roger55, thank you very much :) |
| [22:56:31] | roger55: | dennis|nb, welcome. |
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| [22:59:57] | whosit: | dennis|nb, edit /etc/modules |
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| [23:04:55] | fryfrog: | Cardoe: have you ever tried firewire STB hookup with gentoo's mythtv ebuilds? I'm wondering if the ebuild pulls in *everything* required when the ieee1394 use flag is specified |
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| [23:05:13] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: it does |
| [23:05:16] | Cardoe: | my boss uses it |
| [23:05:17] | fryfrog: | awsome |
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| [23:05:33] | fryfrog: | any such thing as something like "lsusb" or "lspci" for firewire? |
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| [23:07:10] | whosit: | Anyone know why the new internal player will give a mosaic look on DVD's and ISO's of a DVD? |
| [23:07:50] | Anduin: | whosit: try switching MPEG decoders (if you can) and see if it helps |
| [23:08:27] | whosit: | Ok, never thought about that, :), thanks Anduin |
| [23:10:06] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: not sure |
| [23:11:09] | whosit: | Choice, that worked. |
| [23:12:17] | whosit: | Now all i need to do is get a machine that can compile Mythtv in about 10 minutes :) |
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| [23:22:23] | nordle: | Just in case anyone else asks, I was suffering from judders in the tv playback (live tv). It appeared to be doing 21fps instead of 25fps. Turned out it was because I had enabled the "Enable OpenGL vertical sync for timing". Im using athlon64 3700 with nvidia 6200 (menus are using opengl) with latest nvidia drivers, so figured it was a good option....no, bad bad bad :) |
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| [23:24:22] | kavorka^: | does anyone know if mythvideo 0.20 now recognises directories? |
| [23:25:09] | kormoc: | it didn't before? |
| [23:25:56] | kavorka^: | well yeah with 0.19 ive had to dump all my divx files into a single root directory |
| [23:26:05] | kormoc: | in what mode? |
| [23:26:14] | kavorka^: | as it wouldnt see sub folders to browse in |
| [23:26:20] | kormoc: | gallery mode doesn't really support directorys, but list mode always had |
| [23:26:24] | nordle: | kormoc: ive got avi's in different dirs, seems ok. |
| [23:26:39] | kavorka^: | thats interesting |
| [23:27:13] | Tuju: | ./configure |
| [23:27:14] | Tuju: | You must have the Lame MP3 encoding library installed to compile Myth. |
| [23:27:21] | Tuju: | but I have lame. |
| [23:27:30] | kormoc: | Tuju, the development headers and similar? |
| [23:27:47] | Tuju: | yep |
| [23:27:56] | Tuju: | I packaged them myself. |
| [23:28:06] | kormoc: | well, you need to point the configure script to them then |
| [23:28:12] | Tuju: | how? |
| [23:28:22] | kormoc: | ./configure --help should tell you |
| [23:28:30] | Tuju: | perhaps it cannot find libs.so from /usr/lib64 |
| [23:29:08] | kavorka^: | nordle, so you can browse your videos in sub folders?...ie via the 'watch videos' interface |
| [23:29:15] | whosit: | YAHOOOO, compile done :) |
| [23:30:50] | nordle: | kavorka^: Yeah, go to Watch Videos and there are folders of my directories, then just Enter into each level to find the avi. |
| [23:31:41] | kavorka^: | nordle, sounds promising....ill give it a shot. did this work in 0.19 or is it a new feature in 0.20? |
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| [23:33:04] | nordle: | kavorka^: Im totally new to myth, 0.20 is my first install, so dont know about new/old features. |
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| [23:33:25] | kavorka^: | nordle, thanks |
| [23:34:17] | kavorka^: | you guys got any good links on transcoding and mythcommflag examples....the myth doco is very poor in this area |
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| [23:40:21] | pord: | hi there im new to all this mythtv stuff...... im on suse 10.1 and trying to set it all up..... when doing set-up i noticed that it couldnt find a database..... so then looked further into it and there is no /usr/share/mythtv/database/mc.sql can any1 help? |
| [23:41:28] | whosit: | pord, did you install from RPM packages? sounds like you did, did you download the mythtvdatabase rpm? |
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| [23:42:01] | pord: | i installed from yast |
| [23:42:15] | pord: | picked allthings to do with mythtv |
| [23:43:15] | whosit: | you can download the source and get the mc.sql file from that. |
| [23:43:43] | pord: | k will try it |
| [23:43:59] | Anduin: | You can download it directly from svn as well |
| [23:46:32] | kavorka^: | nordle, just tried it ...it recognises sub-folders now....very cool! |
| [23:48:45] | nordle: | kavorka^: really liking myth, soooo many features to master, still trying to get it all setup how I like. I got my imon remote now working on most things, but now I see that people say xine is best for video, so need to figure out how to configure remote for that......must remember to take a offsite backup of this box too!!!!! I would probably kill someone if the hd died about now :) |
| [23:49:09] | kormoc: | nordle, I feel the internal myth video player is the best personally |
| [23:49:46] | kavorka^: | well i use xine to play dvds and videos...i think its superior |
| [23:50:00] | nordle: | kormoc: really, but looking at the key bindings on mythweb I cant see there are any for video. currently my remote works in dvd/music/tv but not video. |
| [23:50:02] | whosit: | on myth .20 I think the internal rocks over Xine. |
| [23:50:19] | nordle: | I wold luv to use all internal! |
| [23:50:27] | kavorka^: | whosit, how so? i havent tried the 0.20 internal player |
| [23:50:34] | kavorka^: | what did u notice? |
| [23:50:44] | kormoc: | nordle, it just uses the video playback keys |
| [23:50:53] | whosit: | Well, for one the key bindings are the same as in live tv |
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| [23:51:30] | kormoc: | kavorka^, it doesn't spawn extra players and when things go wrong, it goes back to the myth menu, not pontentionally leaving a box that needs a mouse or keyboard to get away |
| [23:51:52] | nordle: | are the keybindings the same as "TV Playback"? |
| [23:52:10] | kavorka^: | interesting, i will have to dabble with it today....i spent so long getting xine setup right that im scared to tinker with it |
| [23:53:38] | kormoc: | nordle, yes |
| [23:54:00] | kavorka^: | i guess having a uniform set of commands on the remote is a big reason to move to internal |
| [23:54:21] | kormoc: | the internal dvd player supports menus now as well |
| [23:54:52] | nordle: | luvin the internal dvd player :) |
| [23:54:52] | kavorka^: | this project is going ahead in leaps and bounds |
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| [23:55:24] | kavorka^: | im hanging for the day where u can do more stuff via the browser like setting up transcoding jobs etc |
| [23:55:49] | whosit: | Choice, Now I have a wireless mythtv box (My laptop :) |
| [23:56:04] | nordle: | problem with internal video player.....it doesnt....it flashes a msg "loading name_of_divx5_avi" for about 1/4 second and thats it, nada....? |
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| [23:59:56] | seth|mythcenter: | where is the mythstream plugin for svn fixes. I upgraded, and now the front end wont launch |
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