Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Tuesday, October 3rd, 2006, 00:00 UTC

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scott_:

I LOVE MYTHTV

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orogor:

isnt there a better thing for the imdb script ?

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siXy:

well the reason it isnt automated is becuase there are often several possible matches. i just made a script that intelligently selected the right one, but it gets it wrong from time to time

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siXy:

it didnt take long to make tbh – you dont need much knowledge, just a bit of bash and some regular expressions and a bit of awk

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orogor:

something is fucked up here

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orogor:

06-10–03 02:12:46.808 Movie Search: Executing '/usr/share/mythtv/mythvideo/scripts/imdb.pl -M type=fuzy 16 Blocks Dvdrip Fr'

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orogor:

2006-10–03 02:12:47.691

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orogor:

2006-10–03 02:12:47.691 GetMovieList returned 0 possible matches

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orogor:

i run the same stuff manually i get results

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briand:

'fuzy' not 'fuzzy' ?

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orogor:

thats what the help says

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orogor:

orogor@pascalou ~ $ /usr/share/mythtv/mythvideo/scripts/imdb.pl -M type=fuzy 16 Blocks Dvdrip Fr

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orogor:

0450232:16 Blocks (2006)

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orogor:

0147414:Sedicianni (1974)

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orogor:

0374360:"16" (2003)

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orogor:

i didnt even use parentheses

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cornell:

Good evening all

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orogor:

hi

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cornell:

I'm trying to get nvidia graphics card recognized... I'm told I can use install-nvidia-debian.sh, but it wants a driver version... How can I find the version for my GeForce 6600 GT?

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orogor:

... need to sleep

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orogor:

2h30am

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cornell:

Sleep well, orogor

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kormoc:

cornell, uhh, no idea what that script does, but usually you can just download the driver from nvidia.com and run it's installer and it will set it up right

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kormoc:

cornell, if you want to use that debian specific thing, you might want to try #debian and ask there

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cornell:

Well, it's a knoppmyth distro... so I thought I'd try here

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cornell:

But thanks kormoc

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tjcarter:

um, I guess I don't want to apply this?: http://pastebin.ca/189364

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tjcarter:

(Ubuntu..)

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kormoc:

tjcarter, do you have a reason to apply it?

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_shad:

I just nuked my tuner cards, and when trying to re-set them up, I get the error: mythtv card 0 (type ) is set to start on channel 2, which does not exist. Any ideas?

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fryfrog:

manually play around in the db?

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fryfrog:

choose the "delete all cards from system" perhaps?

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_shad:

tried it. It started on the slave backend, so I nuked them all, and I get the error on the master and slave backends.. hmm

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fryfrog:

wait, is this when there are *no* cards in?

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fryfrog:

but you still have channel line ups and all?

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fryfrog:

or have you re-added the cards and it *still* complains?

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_shad:

Once I try to re-add the card

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fryfrog:

of course, you have both backends stopped right?

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_shad:

yep

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fryfrog:

hummm

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fryfrog:

i nuked my cards the other day and it went fine :(

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_shad:

I think it may have something to do with me selecting "get channels from lineup source"

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_shad:

this may work.. sec

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_shad:

hmm. one alive.

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_shad:

I'll try the other now

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_shad:

Alright. "Fetch channels from listing source" killed it

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_shad:

I'll have to do some testing and report a bug I guess. Thx for your help fryfrog

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_shad:

night

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Ediehow:

if i am using dishnetwork

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Ediehow:

what do i put channel frequency table to?

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Ediehow:

us-bcast?

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Ediehow:

if i am using my wintv pvr 150mce rca jacks for satellite, what do i put for default input?

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Ediehow:

still tuner 1?

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Ediehow:

and still /dev/video0?

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Ediehow:

does my video device change?

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Anduin:

Ediehow: same device, different input (composite, or s-video)

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Ediehow:

Anduin: ok, thanks, where do i tell it to use a diff input?

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Ediehow:

it was using cable

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Anduin:

Ediehow: In mythtv-setup, you associate a lineup with an input.

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Ediehow:

i had been using cable

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Ediehow:

so it's still ./dev/video0 for video device

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Ediehow:

and default input still tuner 1

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Anduin:

yes

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Anduin:

no

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Ediehow:

?

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Anduin:

Or, maybe

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Ediehow:

ivtv driver

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Anduin:

Yeah, that isn't a factor

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Ediehow:

what about "channel frequency table"

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Ediehow:

the two options are

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Ediehow:

for default input

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Ediehow:

oh wait

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Ediehow:

the other is my webcam

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Ediehow:

ok it's screwed up

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Ediehow:

it chose spca561 for input

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Ediehow:

i dont want that for input

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Ediehow:

that's the webcam

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Ediehow:

maybe it's cuz for probed info it says "failed to open"

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Ediehow:

?

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xris:

heh. mythtv running on two screens side by side.

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tjcarter:

xris: sweet

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siXy:

try 6 on one box :)

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tjcarter:

xris: I used to have the ability to do that, but it's only because my Mac is right next to my Myth box

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** tjcarter went and upgraded to 0.20, somewhat of a mistake **

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xris:

tjcarter: I just wanted to watch a show while I cut commercials out of others. heh

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tjcarter:

I mean, I like 0.20 a lot, but I should have stuck with 0.19 until frontends worked on other than Linux =)

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siXy:

is myths editor much good? ive never actually used

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** tjcarter might be able to fix mac frontend, but is currently not able to install all the huge pile of crap required =) **

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tjcarter:

siXy: it's not bad, but it takes getting used to

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tjcarter:

once you have the keys down it's quite effective for its purpose =D

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siXy:

so ill stick with premier then i think :)

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** tjcarter must try to coax TapeWorm's author into 0.20 =) **

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tjcarter:

siXy: for editing out commercials?

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tjcarter:

hmm, MythPS3

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** tjcarter thinks his Myth box is probably cheaper than that setup would be. **

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siXy:

well i do video editing anyway, so i may as well use a nice easy to use editor to cut commercials as well

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siXy:

slightly inconveint to transfer the files back and forth however, which is why i asked

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tjcarter:

heh, need a Premiere NUV filter

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tjcarter:

That's about as likely as one for Final Cut

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tjcarter:

hmm, wait actually, NUV filter for QuickTime wouldn't be all that terribly crazy to write would it?

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** tjcarter is more interested in Myth talking to a DAAP server actually **

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siXy:

nah you just turn em into mpeg2/4s. takes a little longer but meh.

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siXy:

and theres not that much stuff i bother to chop comercials out of

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tjcarter:

siXy: my NUVs are mpeg4

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siXy:

you dont record in rtjpeg?

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tjcarter:

I record in mpeg2

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jeffmede1:

whats the deal with lircd configs from the site? i have the ons that match the remotes i have but they arent even close

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tjcarter:

But I transcode to save space

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feld:

ok i have an official bug that i hope someone here can squash

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jeffmede1:

mostly the prefab config files have like 30 chars per remote code

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jeffmede1:

but when i use irrecord its only 4 chars per button

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jeffmede1:

should it technically still work?

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feld:

for ages the following would happen: record TV a lot or watch TV a lot and within 5 days uptime the recordings/tv would start to get pretty artifact-ed.

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feld:

I've replaced CPU/motherboard/powersupply and gotten a second tuner

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feld:

The original was a PVR-250, I just added a PVR-150 to the setup and set it as the primary tuner

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feld:

it is happening to that tuner now because it gets the heaviest usage

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feld:

the CPU was swapped with another identical one, I'm still on a socket A setup, so nothing dramatically has changed

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feld:

it's been happening through all my upgrades... from ivtv 0.4.3 to ivtv 0.7.0

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feld:

can anyone shed some light on this crap? I have to shutdown the pc and cold boot it to get the artifacts to stop

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feld:

shit i think i just figured it out....

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feld:

reports of crappy behavior with VIA chipsets... kt266–400

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feld:

argh gonna have to find a new motherboard =S

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siXy:

ah yeah via is bad news for any unix-based operating systems

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feld:

sis is cool right?

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siXy:

hmm. try intel or nvidia

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siXy:

intel chipsets rarely have major problems

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siXy:

and nvidia make good shipsets. sis chipsets are.... variable

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feld:

well i ordered a cheap sis one

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feld:

i dont want to spend fscking 70 dollars on a socket A motherboard

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feld:

that's just rediculous

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feld:

i cant get an intel chipset when i have a socket A :(

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mchou:

feld: seriously, ditch socket a and get a64

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mchou:

feld: socket a is a freaking oven

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mchou:

a64 coolnquiet is where it's at

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mchou:

unless you got enough $ for a conroe

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siXy:

or just go for an abit or aopen modt

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siXy:

or a via epia – chea and quiet

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feld:

mchou: it's for mythtv. i dont need any better....

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feld:

i know it's an oven — i have an opteron workstation that idles at 19c

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siXy:

feld a via epia sp13000 isnt much more than a decent motherboard, and will be MUCH quieter

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feld:

i dont see a reason to dump a perfectly good working processor though

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feld:

and sound isnt an issue

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siXy:

becuase its not best suited to the task at hand?

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feld:

wtf how is it not suited

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feld:

you're crazy

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siXy:

well i typed that before you said sound isnt an issue

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feld:

there's no need for a 64bit monster in a mythtv box though, face it :P

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siXy:

personally – fans in a htpc are an abhorrance

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feld:

my htpc currently has no fans

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siXy:

i wasnt the one who reccomened that tbh :)

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hjohnson:

siXy: if they're quiet, they're fine.

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feld:

the side is off lol because i need a new case

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hjohnson:

my machine that will be the backend is a freaking windtunnel

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siXy:

i refuse to have any fans in my htpcs :)

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hjohnson:

but it's got a pair of 92mm fans in front, 120mm in the rear, chipset fan, CPU fan, two fans in the power supply

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hjohnson:

but then, it's got an a64, and 6 HDs in it

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siXy:

i have a fanless combined fron/backend which im very pleased with :)

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hjohnson:

siXy: well, my main machine gets used for other things too.

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hjohnson:

siXy: I'm debating what to do for the front-end...

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hjohnson:

either it will be something where I push the video from the machine in the basement ot the living room, or else I'll have to build an EPIA type system

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hjohnson:

I don't mind fans, as long as they're quiet.

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siXy:

its perfectly possible in theory to run it off a flash disk, but personally i would just use a notebook drive unless you like a challenge :)

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hjohnson:

siXy: I was figuring I'd just skip the whole drive thing in the first place and netboot

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siXy:

i would also take a look at the new(ish) abit mobile on desktop board as it has an hdmi port

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hjohnson:

siXy: why would I bother with HDMI?

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siXy:

future proofing and all that

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hjohnson:

i'm figuring on just using a cheap computer LCD

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hjohnson:

(My tv has knobs)

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feld:

hjohnson: netboot would be easy

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siXy:

heh :) i just use a reasonable quality crd atm – but eventuyally im gonna have to get this hdtv stuff :)

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hjohnson:

*sigh*

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scott_:

HDTV rocks! there's nothing better

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siXy:

well i prefer decent sound to hdtv personally :) but yeah hdtv is nice

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nadia007:

having a hard time installing myth on my ubuntu box using apt-get, wondering of someone could help me out!?

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nadia007:

I don't have the GUI enabled, so I can't use synaptic to install the packages, but I'm having dependency issues.

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[mbm]:

hmm anyone know enough about mpeg transport streams to look at a few stray packets I'm getting?

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ssstormy:

so I have a complication... I am having immense difficulty getting audio out of my TV tuner card, and currently the only way it works is by piping the output into my audio card's Line In jack. How do I record audio into my mythtv recordings, esp. without having the TV audio playing over my speakers when it's recording in the background?

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[mbm]:

ssstormy: bt848/bt878 card?

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ssstormy:

yeah

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[mbm]:

figures. on some of those you can grab the audio stream directly from the card but on most of them there's just a jack on the back of the card and you have to pipe it through your soundcard's line in

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ssstormy:

yeah

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ssstormy:

I can load the btaudio driver

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ssstormy:

and I get a /dev/dsp1

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[mbm]:

right, that's what you want

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ssstormy:

and I can get a mixer going

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ssstormy:

but I can't get the audio

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[mbm]:

that means you can unplug the cable to your soundcard

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[mbm]:

hmm

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siXy:

just one thing to try – disable the mixer in mythtv setup. i have a card that doesnt record sound if mythtvs uasio mixer is enabled

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[mbm]:

well, if you do loop it through the soundcard there's a mixer setting to mute the audio that doesn't interfere with the capture

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ssstormy:

hmm

[05:39:08]

ssstormy:

I know what u are talking about

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ssstormy:

but it's not in my gnome mixer

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ssstormy:

siXy thanks for the idea, I'll try that

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ssstormy:

[mbm] I think I might have figured something

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ssstormy:

I'll be back in a little bit

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ssstormy:

oh and also

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** [mbm] needs to figure out wtf "SOP: SERVICE 135" is and why it appears in the raw mpeg streams **

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ssstormy:

when I go to regular "watch TV"

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ssstormy:

it crashes if I try to switch channels

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Juski:

ssstormy: there have been several cases of folks needing to unmute the tuner audio with the v4lctl command...

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nadia007:

just wondering if anyone here has installed myth on ubuntu and if so, which version?

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Agrajag-:

nadia007: yeah i have a frontend on ubuntu, both dapper and edgy, 0.20

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nadia007:

Agrajag-, which version did you install on dapper?

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Agrajag-:

nadia007: 0.20

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nadia007:

Agrajag-, what do you mean with fronend?

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nadia007:

frontend*

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Agrajag-:

nadia007: i mean i only use my ubuntu boxes for mythfrontend, my mythbackend (and another frontend) are running on debian (testing)

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ssstormy:

Juski, I suspected something like that- except I could never figure out how

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ssstormy:

what command would I issue (params and all?)

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nadia007:

hmm... I guess I'm trying to put both front and back on my ubuntu box... just can't seem to get mi packages installed run into dependency issues like crazy!

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nadia007:

Agrajag-, did you run into this?

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Agrajag-:

nadia007: no, i compiled from source. i installed all the dependancies as i ran into them from packages though and didn't have any problems there

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ssstormy:

Juski I figured it out actually thanks!

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nadia007:

Agrajag-, kay... hmm... I'll keep trying see what happens... thanks for the heads up!

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ssstormy:

another thing (man I'm full of questions) how can i tell if it's actually converted the video it records, like i told it to?

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ssstormy:

I don't think it's actually converting my videos... is there really a way to check?

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xris:

ssstormy: converted to what?

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ssstormy:

mpeg4

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xris:

what did you start with?

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ssstormy:

straight up recording from my TV card

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xris:

which is what?

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ssstormy:

.nuv, I'm assuming it's the rtjpeg

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ssstormy:

and also while it says it flags the video for commericials, it doesn't block a one

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xris:

only real way to tell would be if the filesize changes.

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xris:

flag != block

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xris:

ssstormy: how fast is your machine?

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ssstormy:

2.4GHz

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xris:

you should just record in mpeg4 to begin with. rtjpeg is really only for slow machines.

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ssstormy:

how do I tell it to do that?

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xris:

recording profiles? same place you set all of that stuff.

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xris:

you must have done that at some point to configure it for rtjpeg to start with, or mpeg4 to transcode to.

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ssstormy:

ok cool I'll check on those. but what about commercials? they only actually get cut out when you transcode the video right?

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AlefBet:

Quick question. Has anyone else seen discrepancies between the Zap2it/listing information for USA network and what actually airs?

[06:49:22]

AlefBet:

I just had a recording that was made at 6pm on October 2nd, but the listing (both MythTV and TV Guide) says that program is scheduled for 6am October 7th.

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Anduin:

Schedule errors happen occasionally

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AlefBet:

I've been noticing consistent errors on USA, though, the last few weeks. And USA only.

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AlefBet:

So no one else is seeing them?

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AlefBet:

Pretty much none of the Law & Order: SVU episodes I recorded over the last four days or so were what they said they were, and SVU airs three or four times a day.

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[mbm]:

that happens

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AlefBet:

Does it tend to be isolated? I mean, will it probably solve itself in a few weeks, then?

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[mbm]:

should

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xris:

ssstormy: commercials only get cut if you edit them out.

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xris:

press E while watching a show, then Z to import the flag list as a cutlist.

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[mbm]:

AlefBet: I used to have that happen with the tivo all the time, it'd record something but the recordig would be the wrong program

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xris:

then you'll likely want to verify things because the flagger is usually only 80–90% accurate with analog streams and software encoders.

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AlefBet:

So it was just one of those things, then, I guess? Balanced against having the convenience of a DVR?

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AlefBet:

Oh, well. Thanks for your patience then.

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ssstormy:

xris then what is the 'commercial flagging' all about?

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xris:

ssstormy: flagging is "finding"

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ssstormy:

but it doesn't do it for me?

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ssstormy:

nuts

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xris:

it finds them. it's up to you to do something once it does.

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ssstormy:

alright that works

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ssstormy:

lemme try that :)

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xris:

you can turn on auto-skip commercials if you want, but like I said, it's not entirely accurate

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ssstormy:

xris the edit thing seems to be working, but pressing Z doesn't do anything from there

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xris:

ssstormy: then the flagger may not be working

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xris:

do you have "auto flag commercials" enabled?

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ssstormy:

yeah

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ssstormy:

and the little crossed-out $ shows up when I select the show in browse media

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xris:

then it sounds like it didn't find any commercials.

[07:01:16]

xris:

you may be on your own for at least that file.

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tjcarter:

xris: well THAT would be a shock!

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tjcarter:

(the flagger not working *laugh*)

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xris:

tjcarter: it's about 98% accurate for me. heh

[07:02:58]

xris:

ssstormy: do you have mythweb installed?

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tjcarter:

I'd give it maybe 80%, but I'm only using the default method

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ssstormy:

xris no I don't have mythweb

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** tjcarter has decided to install/play with mythweb **

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tjcarter:

It beats waiting for TapeWorm for my roommate.

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xris:

tjcarter: ah.. yeah, "all" works pretty well. but then again I have a digital signal coming in.

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tjcarter:

tjcarter: oh that'd be nice.

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tjcarter:

I find it sometimes thinks 10 minutes of the show are a commercial =D

[07:04:59]

tjcarter:

Probably logo detection owuld help with that

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xris:

ssstormy: point your web browser at your backend on port 6543

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tjcarter:

xris: how would you rate the chances of mythweb working with screen reading software?

[07:06:29]

xris:

tjcarter: it'd be a giant mess

[07:06:31]

tjcarter:

ie, images all have useful alt tags and whatnot?

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xris:

too much data

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xris:

but yeah, I think I made sure to have alt tags

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tjcarter:

You'd be surprised the shit we can navigate =D

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tjcarter:

we can traverse columns and rows in tables, move amongst frames and headings, etc..

[07:07:41]

tjcarter:

nobody uses headings and the like anymore though--everything's a div.

[07:07:58]

tjcarter:

screen readers don't know that this div is a heading and that div is a paragraph =(

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** tjcarter is guilty of making pages that suck for blind people, and he is a blind people ;) **

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xris:

tjcarter: mythweb could be better, but it should be ok

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tjcarter:

cool--as I said, TapeWorm works, but I upgraded to Edgy, and Hamsta's packages also upgraded to 0.20

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tjcarter:

still superior to Ubuntu's of course ;)

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ssstormy:

hmm ok I tried a different video and the E + Z thing worked

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ssstormy:

now I'm trying to convert the video to permanently apply the cuts

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tjcarter:

hmm, you can't save the video without the cuts? =(

[07:12:24]

ssstormy:

well all the cuts are is flags that say, skip this part

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tjcarter:

there needs to be a squash cuts option =D

[07:12:35]

ssstormy:

so I have to write a new video file

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ssstormy:

yeah you're right :)

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xris:

tjcarter: there is.

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xris:

you just press X while watching and it'll transcode it in place

[07:13:20]

tjcarter:

xris: does it degrade quality? =)

[07:13:27]

xris:

tjcarter: depends on how you configure it.

[07:13:41]

xris:

there are lossless modes for mpeg4 and mpg2, though.

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tjcarter:

I already lose some from mpeg2 to mpeg4

[07:14:08]

tjcarter:

but gain about 3x more show space for it

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xris:

imho it's easier to just record at a lower bitrate to start. the mpeg2 encoders are really good.

[07:15:23]

xris:

then again, recording over firewire is even nicer.. bitrate is actually relatively low

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tjcarter:

I guess I should consider that since there's the possibility of dropped frames in the transcode

[07:15:57]

tjcarter:

it shouldn't really happen, but it does sometimes

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ssstormy:

I hit X and it says "transcoding", and the words fade away... and then what?

[07:17:22]

ssstormy:

I don't see anything happening when I run ps ax

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tjcarter:

ssstormy: check back later, file will be smaller =D

[07:17:52]

tjcarter:

anyway, bed

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xris:

ssstormy: it'll transcode when mythbackend feels it won't interfere with other more important things

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ssstormy:

that's it? ok.

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xris:

ssstormy: I highly recommend that you encode in mpeg4, though.

[07:18:19]

ssstormy:

like xchat? :P

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xris:

your cpu is more than enough to handle it.

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ssstormy:

I am doing that

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ssstormy:

I set the default encode to mpeg4

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ssstormy:

but I do want to be able to remove the adds, not just skip them

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xris:

then make sure that your transcode profile is set to "lossless"

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xris:

then you won't actually transcode (reencode). it'll just remove the commercials

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ssstormy:

oh so I record, then I "transcode" except I use losless. gotcha.

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xris:

yeah

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xris:

every time you encode/transcode, you take the faults of the recording and make them worse.

[07:20:25]

xris:

sort of like copying a copy of a vhs tape

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xris:

so you want to avoid that as much as possible

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ssstormy:

how do I add a profile within a profile group?

[07:21:32]

xris:

I don't think you can

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xris:

no real reason

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ssstormy:

lame

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xris:

sort of.

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xris:

do you really need more than 4 sets of bitrates?

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tjcarter:

damn, if I stop transcoding to mpeg4, my CPU will be wasted =D

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** tjcarter just looked at some logs **

[07:23:04]

xris:

tjcarter: you could always use nuvexport. export everything to mp3. you'd save a LOT of space.

[07:23:12]

tjcarter:

lol

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** Juski 's mind boggled at why people still use software encoders **

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tjcarter:

actually, my roommate has lots of DVDs ripped that way

[07:23:52]

tjcarter:

I prefer to have the video intact, even if I have to glue my face to the screen to appreciate it.

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xris:

well, if you don't/can't use the video, why not save space? :)

[07:24:08]

tjcarter:

he can't use the video, I can, at very close range.

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tjcarter:

We're talking measured in inches.

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ssstormy:

Juski, because I don't have a hardware encoder on my card, and I don't have any extra $

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Juski:

fair nuff

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xris:

tjcarter: ahh.

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Juski:

guess I'm spoiled by dvb tuners, and how cheap I got mine

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tjcarter:

20–24" widescreens are wonderful.

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tjcarter:

now that would be another nice thing I wish I could do without quality degradation--clip off black bars on 4:3 broadcast widescreen content

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Juski:

that'd be 16:9 zoom mode I think

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tjcarter:

but as a cable user, HD is not likely on my budget.

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xris:

tjcarter: I'm working how to do that in nuvexport.

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ssstormy:

Juski, how cheap is cheap

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xris:

ssstormy: wouldn't help you in the US.

[07:27:35]

tjcarter:

Juski: yes, it works well.. I just sometimes forget to set it =D

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Juski:

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tjcarter:

anyway, I said something about bed..

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** tjcarter must be up in 5 flipping hours as usual. **

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ssstormy:

xris, y, do DVB tuners only work in certain countries?

[07:28:36]

Juski:

yup

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Juski:

most of europe has dvb-t now, but the US & Canada have ATSC AFAIK

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xris:

ssstormy: dvb is the digital broadcast method used in europe and a few other places. in the US, we use ATSC

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xris:

similar tech, but not compatible.

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ssstormy:

oh I see. so DVB is also HD? ATSC is our HD right?

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Juski:

in some places HD is offerred over DVB

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xris:

ssstormy: dvb is just digital.. can do hd. in the US, the only digital we have is also HD.

[07:31:21]

xris:

well, broadcast.

[07:31:33]

xris:

you can get pure digital *and* HD from the firewire port on an HD cable box, too.

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ssstormy:

oh and I realized why the transcode doesn't wanna go. if it really does wait for low system load... I'm in the middle of compiling php :P

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xris:

ssstormy: yeah, that could do it.

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xris:

might also be why that one program didn't have any flagged commercials. could have been only partway through flagging.

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ssstormy:

is there a way to import playlists?

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Juski:

ssstormy: nope. someone did a script to convert .m3u playlists for mythmusic a while ago though

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ssstormy:

I think I found it but it seems to be broken. something to do with lib and stuff, so the fact that I'm on amd64 migth have broken my chances of using it

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Juski:

can't remember the last time I actually used mythmusic tbh

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ssstormy:

nvm I just don't have the module yet :P

[08:02:10]

PaulWay:

Has anyone had a problem where a front end would play one recording fine, but after playing the second recording would go back to playing the first?

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** Juski moderates a forum user's ass off the forums **

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PaulWay:

And thereafter get caught in an infinite loop between the two shows?

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Freman:

Hey folks

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Freman:

I got a wee problem with myth-transcode

[08:02:55]

PaulWay:

mmm?

[08:03:01]

Freman:

2006-10–03 08:27:30.267 Processed: 23986 of 63300 frames(959 seconds)

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Freman:

2006-10–03 08:27:34.416 Searching for frame header.

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Freman:

2006-10–03 08:27:34.422 Broken packet: X 235623605

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PaulWay:

Bad stream?

[08:03:16]

Freman:

The video plays fiene, I just can't get it to export for nuvexport

[08:03:25]

Freman:

fiene/fine

[08:03:42]

Freman:

Probably is a bad file, but if it plays, why can't it stream? (c:

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PaulWay:

Have you tried playing the nuv file with mplayer or similar?

[08:04:22]

Freman:

I didn't know I could play with mplayer, I tried with vlc but had no audio

[08:04:39]

Freman:

aw cool, I can play it with mplayer (c:

[08:04:43]

PaulWay:

I've seen this problem before when I was recording DVB streams that were breaking up badly.

[08:06:05]

PaulWay:

Unfortunately I don't know a way around it.

[08:06:25]

Freman:

let me find out if mplayer breaks 8 minutes in

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[08:06:34]

Freman:

if it doesn't, I should be ale to export from that yeh?

[08:06:42]

PaulWay:

I don't know.

[08:06:53]

PaulWay:

It's highly likely that mythtranscode will break in the same spot.

[08:07:03]

PaulWay:

I don't know of a way to fix it.

[08:07:53]

PaulWay:

On the ones that I really wanted, I grabbed the cut list from the mythconverg database and made up a transcode command line that would do the same thing. You have to invert the cut list for transcode.

[08:08:13]

Juski:

PaulWay: saw it today, saw it last time too – no idea what's going on there. something IS very wrong though

[08:08:27]

PaulWay:

mplayer will probably mention something but continue playing.

[08:08:34]

PaulWay:

mythtranscode doesn't seem to be as robust.

[08:08:45]

PaulWay:

Juski: can you think of any way to find out what might be going wrong?

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ssstormy:

well thanks a lot guys, I'm grateful

[08:08:49]

ssstormy:

I'm heading out

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Freman:

if that's the case, I thik I can export from mplayer

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PaulWay:

I can't think of any way to debug the problem or break it down.

[08:09:26]

PaulWay:

Sorry for repeating myself, but my partner will fly into an insane rage and kill me soon if I don't work out the problem :-)

[08:09:47]

Juski:

PaulWay: not a clue, apart from the usual checking of mysql tables etc...

[08:10:05]

PaulWay:

'usual checking'? What should I check?

[08:10:18]

PaulWay:

The settings table seems correct and contains what I'd expect for that front end...

[08:10:20]

Juski:

run mysqlcheck on the mythconverg db

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PaulWay:

Righto...

[08:10:40]

PaulWay:

I shouldn't have to shut down mysql or the mythtv backend, yes?

[08:10:45]

Juski:

I dunno how myth works out playlists for recorded shows but maybe something's wrong with that

[08:11:11]

Juski:

PaulWay: best to stop mythbackend & all the frontends, but not necessarily absolutely ;)

[08:11:32]

PaulWay:

Hmmmm. Indeed.

[08:11:45]

PaulWay:

Way more clients using various tables than I have...

[08:13:04]

PaulWay:

Should I stop mysql?

[08:13:21]

Juski:

nah

[08:13:37]

PaulWay:

Hmmm. Well, a lot of tables are still open.

[08:13:45]

PaulWay:

Let me just see if mysqlcheck can fix it...

[08:15:00]

PaulWay:

OK...

[08:15:24]

PaulWay:

I can't see that this would be causing problems specific to one front end only...

[08:15:28]

PaulWay:

But it's worth a try.

[08:15:57]

Freman:

hehe

[08:15:59]

Freman:

mplayer is doing well

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Freman:

00::13:00 / 00:06:16

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Freman:

I've warped time

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PaulWay:

Heh.

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Freman:

doh

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Freman:

but it bombed out at the same spot

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PaulWay:

I tried out the timewarping feature of mythfrontend the other day – it is teh roxxors.

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Freman:

well, I guess the only way people are going to see episode 2 are if they install mythtv (c:

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PaulWay:

OK, database repaired, analysed, optimised, freshened, neatened, tidied, flossed, and scrubbed behind the ears.

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PaulWay:

I'm off to the other front end to see if it's still exhibiting the symptoms.

[08:17:57]

Anduin:

PaulWay: Be careful with it, it is addictive.

[08:18:13]

PaulWay:

Anduin: great power, great responsiblity, got it.

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Juski:

by far & away the thing that got the best response from the 'crowd' when I was demoing mythtv at LugRadioLive2006

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Juski:

no other pvr app has time-mangling either AFAIK

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Anduin:

I wish it were everywhere

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siXy:

time mangling? whats that? sounds risky if you ask me....

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siXy:

oh just playing at 1.X x speed.... sage might do it im not sure... but i bet it messes with soudn quality

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Freman:

damn it

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Freman:

my dvd burner is going to lock up my machine again

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Freman:

see how this one goes...

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Freman:

grr this one no good

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Freman:

Don't buy lite-on, and don't buy aopens...

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Freman:

they're just rebadged lite-ons

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ssstormy:

... I'm a little confused. In the recording profile I set it to mpeg4, and 1800KBp/s, the instructions telling me that 2200 meant about 1 GB per hour. I am getting 30 minute shows that are 2GB.

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ssstormy:

any insight/

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JohnQ:

I have a .mpg file in my video library, which plays correctly and completely with mplayer.. but when I use the Internal playre instead, it only plays the first 24 minutes. Anyone seen something like this before?

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PaulWay:

Juski: No luck there...

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Juski:

these Cisco IP phones are shite.. can't set up speed dials without 'the administrator'

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PaulWay:

Who might that be?

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Juski:

I.T.

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Juski:

:-|

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PaulWay:

I thought this might be a home phone.

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Juski:

don't use the home phone enough to justify going VOIP

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Juski:

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Juski:

oh hell.. speed dial buttons need to be programmed at the switch!

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PaulWay:

Well that's really clever.

[10:45:34]

PaulWay:

Because, let's face it, the IT people just love doing that sort of stuff for users.

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Juski:

apparently I missed the email about a webpage where we can admin our own phones

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PaulWay:

Betcha each phone has a default password...

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Juski:

heh

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Juski:

this is complete & utter 'sledgehammer to crack a nut' stuff

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Laney:

Is there any way to automatically pad an extra minute or so onto the end of scheduled recordings? I keep losing the end of shows

[10:52:16]

Kelerion:

onto *every* recording?

[10:52:33]

Laney:

I guess so

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Laney:

I can't tell when it's going to cut the end off, and having a bit extra isn't really problematic

[10:52:54]

Kelerion:

setting/tv setting/

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Kelerion:

general

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Kelerion:

5th screen

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Juski:

yay! I have speed dials

[10:53:45]

Juski:

stupid fkin technlogy for the sake of it

[10:53:57]

PaulWay:

Juski: Yes – why not just set it on the phone itself?

[10:54:16]

PaulWay:

I can understand having web pages to do the really nifty stuff, but speed dials should be simple.

[10:54:31]

Kelerion:

Laney, it is problematic when you say, have a program thats supposed to finish at 8pm.. but you've told it to finish at 8:01.. and then you have something else scheduled to start at 8pm

[10:54:34]

Juski:

but.. I can have up to 99 speed dials.. I think after about 20 numbers it stops being 'speedy'

[10:54:37]

PaulWay:

We use Avaya phones at work (Australian National University) and they have speed dial setting on them.

[10:54:58]

Laney:

I have 3 tuners Kelerion, so that shouldn't be an issue *too* much

[10:55:17]

Juski:

btw morning Kelerion :)

[10:55:23]

PaulWay:

Juski: You can do it if you have a set pattern: e.g. first digit = which person, second digit = type of number (1 = home, 2 = work, 3 = mobile, etc.)

[10:55:23]

Kelerion:

morning :)

[10:55:41]

PaulWay:

I'll stop teaching you to suck eggs now :-)

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Juski:

Kelerion: some time soon could you send me a list of hardware (specs & cack) so I can make stand-up cards for the expo.. you can guarantee it'll be the most asked Q.. "and what's this box based on (etc yada yada yada)"

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Kelerion:

sure.. np

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Laney:

Kelerion: Which option am I looking at in this screen? I can see "Startup /before/ rec" but nothing about post-recording.

[10:57:17]

Juski:

Kelerion: cheers :)

[10:57:32]

Kelerion:

"Time to record past end of show (in seconds)"

[10:57:36]

PaulWay:

Hey, are you guys running a MythTV expo or something?

[10:57:54]

Laney:

Can't see that one :(

[10:58:28]

Kelerion:

it's in there somewhere Laney .. I've used it before as far back as .18 I think

[10:58:46]

Kelerion:

brb.. I need my first coffee of the day

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PaulWay:

Caffeine – the lifeblood of working mankind... :-)

[11:00:21]

Laney:

Oh wait, is this in mythfrontend? I was looking in mythtv-setup!

[11:00:30]

PaulWay:

Aaaaaahhhhhh.

[11:00:41]

PaulWay:

Yes, this would be in mythfrontend setup.

[11:00:49]

Laney:

I'm scheduling the recordings through mythweb

[11:01:17]

PaulWay:

mythtv-setup deals with hard backend setup only – cards, channels, etc.

[11:01:46]

PaulWay:

You can manually set the number of minutes to go earlier and later for each programme in mythweb...

[11:01:59]

PaulWay:

It's down toward the bottom of the recording options.

[11:02:15]

Laney:

Yeah, I was hoping to modify the default

[11:02:21]

PaulWay:

But if you're wanting a default setting, use the mythfrontend setup.

[11:04:24]

Kelerion:

PaulWay, yup.. Juski got asked to do n expo on Myth :)

[11:04:45]

Kelerion:

so I'm going along for moral support :)

[11:04:57]

PaulWay:

Cool!

[11:05:10]

PaulWay:

I've done a couple of presentations about MythTV at my local LUG.

[11:05:14]

PaulWay:

Where are you doing this expo?

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Kelerion:

Olympia2 in London

[11:05:39]

PaulWay:

Is it some kind of technology expo?

[11:05:58]

PaulWay:

Ah, LinuxExpo.

[11:06:01]

PaulWay:

Yes/

[11:06:02]

PaulWay:

Yes?

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Kelerion:

thats the one :)

[11:06:17]

PaulWay:

Excellent!

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PaulWay:

MythTV really does rock as a demo of Linux.

[11:06:46]

Kelerion:

you should see the video Juski put together for it :)

[11:07:16]

PaulWay:

A video? You aren't going to take a live machine along?

[11:07:47]

Kelerion:

Juski, I was thinking... my original plan was to bring down my combof BE/FE.. my desktop and my laptop... do you think that might be overkill?

[11:08:07]

PaulWay:

I'll stop interfering :-)

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Kelerion:

nah.. no worries..

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Kelerion:

good to get ppl talking about it :)

[11:09:12]

PaulWay:

Absolutely.

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Kelerion:

my desktop is a dualscreen setup.. and I was thinking about the space we have

[11:09:32]

Kelerion:

because the *big* thing is gonna be the 42" plasma sitting there.. lol

[11:11:46]

Kelerion:

he must be programming his speed-dial.. lol

[11:12:11]

PaulWay:

Probably :-)

[11:12:20]

Juski:

Kelerion: 2 machines would be enough.. the stand is only 1.5m x 1.5m anyway

[11:12:44]

Kelerion:

ok.. I'll forget the desktop then... just the combo and the laptop

[11:12:55]

Kelerion:

the laptop has a really nice screen for stuff like this

[11:13:05]

Juski:

take your pick between the desktop & laptop, but I'd go for the laptop ;)

[11:13:30]

Kelerion:

hey.. I just uploaded a new pic onto the forum :)

[11:14:10]

Kelerion:

erm.. it got lost.. lol

[11:15:27]

Juski:

I have powers, but not enough to find out what happened

[11:15:43]

PaulWay:

I think the laptop is a good example of the types of remote front end you can have.

[11:15:52]

Kelerion:

are the photos on "MythTV boxes gone wild!" moderated?

[11:15:52]

Juski:

actually I dunno if I can moderate the gallery section...

[11:16:01]

Kelerion:

PaulWay, true

[11:16:04]

PaulWay:

And every geek loves the idea of sitting with their laptop watching some show...

[11:16:16]

Juski:

I was thinking more about Kelerion's back ;)

[11:16:26]

** Kelerion chuckles **

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Kelerion:

yeah.. the desktop would be about 3 more trips from the car..lol

[11:17:23]

PaulWay:

I tried mysqlcheck and fixed everything, and the same problem occurred... unsurprisingly.

[11:17:25]

Kelerion:

hey.. I hope theres a bar in that place!

[11:17:31]

lupin_sanse1:

Is a load of 1.6 bad when playing back mpg2 (DVB) recorded SD stuff in Myth?

[11:17:38]

Juski:

Olympia? I reckon there will be

[11:17:45]

Kelerion:

excellent

[11:17:57]

Kelerion:

1.6%?

[11:18:01]

Kelerion:

does it *sound* bad?

[11:18:10]

lupin_sanse1:

Dunno 1.6 in Mythweb

[11:18:39]

lupin_sanse1:

It doesn't "seem" bad. Everything looks and sounds nice

[11:18:49]

PaulWay:

I'm assuming you mean load average there lupin_sanse1?

[11:18:57]

PaulWay:

no, not at all.

[11:18:58]

lupin_sanse1:

I think so

[11:19:18]

Juski:

Kelerion: I _can_ moderate the pics section.. just hadn't noticed before

[11:19:27]

PaulWay:

Our mythfrontend is recording and playing back and we've got a load average of around 1.45

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Kelerion:

ahh :)

[11:19:57]

Kelerion:

well see if mine new ones there will you? or did it get lost? lol

[11:20:05]

lupin_sanse1:

okay. On a single CPU machine, what does 1.45 mean?

[11:20:06]

Kelerion:

my

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Juski:

Kelerion: think it got lost

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PaulWay:

1.45 means 'on average, 1.45 programs were in a run state over the measured time period'

[11:20:55]

Kelerion:

it's ok.. just noticed the file size

[11:21:01]

Juski:

Kelerion: I know your game.. you just redecorated ;)

[11:21:10]

Kelerion:

yup :P

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lupin_sanse1:

PaulWay: So it's a count of the programs running. Not the % of CPU usage?

[11:22:31]

** Juski thought load numbers were the ratio of riced to non-riced processes :-| **

[11:23:09]

PaulWay:

Not AFAICS.

[11:23:43]

Kelerion:

there we go... uploaded :)

[11:23:54]

Juski:

numbers, lies, damned lies & statistics

[11:23:56]

lupin_sanse1:

I thought it meant that on a single CPU 145% of the CPU was attempted to be used, which meant you had more load than your CPU could handle, by 45%

[11:24:43]

Juski:

who cares what it means? if your machine is fast enough to do stuff you want, that's good. If not, get a faster one

[11:25:28]

PaulWay:

My reading is that it every five seconds, the kernel looks at each process, and if its state is either running or non-interruptible it adds one to the load. Then this is averaged over one, five and fifteen minutes to give the three figures you see listed as the load averages

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Juski:

Kelerion: nice

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PaulWay:

lupin_sanse1: Not at all. Top will quickly disabuse you of that notion.

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Kelerion:

I didn't like having to have the trunking once it was all done.. so they are coming back to fix that in a week or two

[11:26:27]

PaulWay:

What it's checking is, basically, how many processes are waiting to be executed (as opposed to sleeping, zombied, IO waiting, or whatever).

[11:26:40]

Juski:

Kelerion: goodo :)

[11:26:57]

lupin_sanse1:

PaulWay: Disabuse?

[11:27:01]

PaulWay:

If each process was using 100% CPU time, then a load of 1.45 would be as you described.

[11:27:11]

PaulWay:

lupin_sanse1: google 'define: disabuse'

[11:27:28]

lupin_sanse1:

PaulWay: I know what it means, just so antiquated a word

[11:27:37]

PaulWay:

I like old words :-)

[11:27:50]

lupin_sanse1:

One likes old words.

[11:27:53]

Juski:

I'm off to find some cheap petrol. Cheaper n' 94p a litre anyway

[11:28:07]

lupin_sanse1:

Juski: ouch, it's 111c in Australia

[11:28:26]

lupin_sanse1:

Juski: 1.11 Australian dollars = 0.442671866 British pounds

[11:28:33]

Juski:

I don't get this place.. middle of nowhere, populated by toffs who drive yuppie tractors back to their mansions.. and petrol costs so bloody much

[11:28:51]

** Kelerion thinks someone likes xe.com **

[11:29:04]

Juski:

anyway.. biab :)

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lupin_sanse1:

Juski: Status symbols. I used to live in Tokyo. Very impractical for cars and yet everyone wants one

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** Kelerion doesn't drive.. so doesn't have to worry about it :) **

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Kelerion:

although it looks like thats gonna have to change pretty soon... hmph

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PaulWay:

Juski: Well, we're a net exporter of oil...

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PaulWay:

Ah, I seee, and lupin was in WA, too.

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:q

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Juski:

stupid Daresbury 'expressway' thing. there is NOWT yet

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Juski:

s/yet/here

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Juski:

been told already... "that's Runcorn for ya" ;)

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jeffmeden:

hey guys

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bigli:

hey guys im having an issue with mythweb after upgrading to 0.20

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fryfrog:

protocol miss-match?

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bigli:

unknown module

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bigli:

trying to stream a file, seeing the method has changed for this version...but its complaining about an unknown module......problem being i dont know where to begin for looking for this module

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fryfrog:

ah

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fryfrog:

sorry, i don't know about streaming :(

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DigerLAP:

do many of you surf the web on myth from the couch with wireless kb

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fryfrog:

nope

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Honk^away:

is there any way to switch off that blue overlay showing the song title etc. in myth music after switching the screen to black? =)

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DigerLAP:

Channel Frequency Table , what do I say when I call the cable company to find out what it is? They are so numb there they may not know what I am talking about

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Merlin83b:

DigerLAP: You don't ask them, you ask Google.

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DigerLAP:

I did

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DigerLAP:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=chan . . . oogle+Search

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DigerLAP:

nothing really there to hit on

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kazer_:

anyone here using an external tuner? i'd like some advices for an irblaster to control my satellite receiver...

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Devn:

I know this isn't mythtv specific, but I figured a lot of ppl inhere would know an answer to this anyways: how to I make lirc use ttyS1 instead of ttyS0? can't find it in the docs :)

[14:23:41]

Merlin83b:

Look in /etc/lirc/hardware.conf

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Devn:

have no such file. Using gentoo. :/

[14:26:21]

Merlin83b:

Then find your hardware.conf :)

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feld:

Devn: what is the need for you to use ttys1?

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Merlin83b:

Type locate hardware.conf

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Merlin83b:

:)

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feld:

i dont understand what you're doing, first of all...

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feld:

Merlin83b: gentoo doesnt have a hardware.conf

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Merlin83b:

Then stab it :)

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Devn:

feld: I need to test my IR receiver on another serial port.

[14:27:56]

feld:

Devn: i have your solution

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stuarta:

Merlin83b: reminds me of a usenet thread i was reading

[14:28:20]

feld:

it's in modules.conf

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stuarta:

Q: "how do I break (into) a redhat 9 box?" A: "with a hammer, or axe"

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Merlin83b:

Heh.

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Bazil:

is there a guide somewere on howto update mythtv on gentoo ?

[14:50:40]

fryfrog:

yeah, there is a bit of a guide on the gentoo site or gentoo wiki i think

[14:51:32]

Honk^away:

emerge sync && emerge -avuND world

[14:51:33]

Honk^away:

:P

[14:52:21]

Bazil:

honk . yea . u came with a very nice answer yesterday also . ure very helpful .....

[14:52:22]

Bazil:

NOT

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Bazil:

ive set up my system for over 1.5 years ago . havent worked with it for 6 monts .. i have forgotten how2

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Bazil:

nice if someone could gimme a hint .. instead of idiotremarks

[14:53:28]

Honk^away:

soo.. what? =)

[14:53:35]

Honk^away:

that'll update your system

[14:53:47]

Devn:

Still havn't made lirc use ttyS1. feld, I think you think my problem is the kernel driver not letting lirc use the serial port, it's not. It's just about using ttyS1 insted of ttyS0.

[14:53:53]

Honk^away:

although it'll take quite some time on such an old system :P

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Honk^away:

seriously.. if you want to know how to use gentoo, ask in #gentoo or so

[14:54:47]

Bazil:

if i remember correctly .. when doing emerge ..to get the full update i should type somethin else than mythtv .. isnt it like mythtvpack or something ?

[14:55:01]

Honk^away:

there is nothing like that on gentoo

[14:55:07]

Honk^away:

that's why i suggested updating the entire system

[14:55:11]

Honk^away:

<Honk^away> emerge sync && emerge -avuND world

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Bazil:

ah kk .. thought u pulled my leg .. like yesterday ;) .. sorry .. my bad

[14:55:46]

Bazil:

wierd thing is that it worked fine untill yesterday ..

[14:55:47]

Honk^away:

you really should read the portage howto on gentoo.org though

[14:56:08]

Bazil:

but now it hangs when running mythfilldatabase .. or checking the webpage

[14:56:25]

Honk^away:

odd =)

[14:56:48]

Bazil:

when running that emerge command u typed . does that update EVERYTHING installed on the computer ?

[14:56:58]

Honk^away:

<Honk^away> that's why i suggested updating the entire system

[14:57:01]

Honk^away:

that's what i said ;)

[14:57:03]

Bazil:

like mysql http and everyhing ?

[14:57:22]

Bazil:

shit .. that IS gonna take a long time ;) .. but .. probably worth it ;)

[14:57:35]

Honk^away:

hehe

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Honk^away:

if you dont want that..

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Honk^away:

eix -I myth

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Bazil:

sorry for dizzing u before ;)

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burner:

hi. my tv is`nt showing all the image in X (about 50px on all sides). I`ve tried most the modelines I can come up with, but nothing works. I`ve also tried to update ivtv drivers

[14:58:17]

burner:

i`ve got a pvr-350 tv-card

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Bazil:

i can run a full update .. i dont care about the time it takes ..

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Honk^away:

you should ;)

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Honk^away:

imho

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Honk^away:

it's up to you

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Bazil:

ill give it a try .. i can always reinstall everything again ;)

[14:59:09]

Bazil:

thanks mate ;)

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Honk^away:

<Honk^away> you really should read the portage howto on gentoo.org though

[15:00:10]

Honk^away:

=)

[15:00:21]

burner:

is there any chance to set margin to 50px in X?

[15:00:59]

Bazil:

burner .. i had the same problem . i swithed x to an nvidia card instead .. worked great .. and i can use it for play dvds also ..

[15:01:12]

fryfrog:

burner: its called overscan and it is how tvs work :(

[15:01:34]

fryfrog:

burner: there is a page with the option to change where mythtv is centered and its size, you'll need to muck about with that

[15:01:43]

fryfrog:

burner: or if you are lucky, find a size that matches better

[15:02:08]

fryfrog:

burner: at one time, the "nvidia-settings" tool helped me get X the right size, but i wasn't able to the last time i tried :(

[15:02:53]

burner:

fryfrog: i`ve tried most sizes, and mplayer is working great

[15:04:09]

burner:

so.. it`s just X. I have thougt of making my own theme... but thats i quite some work.

[15:05:55]

Bazil:

honk .. can i paste a errormsg to u private .. to see if u know whats wrong ?

[15:06:12]

stuarta:

Bazil: use pastebin.ca

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Bazil:

http://pastebin.ca/189924 <--------- plz check the errormsg

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Bazil:

have NO clue whats wrong

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Honk^away:

<Honk^away> <Honk^away> you really should read the portage howto on gentoo.org though

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Honk^away:

=)

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Bazil:

hehe . yea i know ..

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Honk^away:

well.. do it

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Bazil:

hmm .. just think im to dumb and to stressed to actually understand whats wrong anyhow .. thats the reason for asking .. well well ;)

[15:09:16]

Honk^away:

or maybe you're just too lazy

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Honk^away:

and.. i said it already

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Honk^away:

that's not a question about mythtv =)

[15:09:53]

opello:

Bazil: obviously it's masked, and it tells you where to go to learn about it

[15:10:06]

opello:

Bazil: so, read the 'software availability' in the handbook :)

[15:10:18]

Bazil:

k .. ill shut up and try somethin .. sorry for asking . .thanks for help ;)

[15:10:27]

Honk^away:

dont try, read

[15:10:52]

opello:

you don't need to be sorry for asking either, but imo it lays it out pretty clearly

[15:10:58]

LabMonkey:

rofl

[15:11:04]

LabMonkey:

ok now that I'm not a dev anymore

[15:11:05]

LabMonkey:

I can say

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LabMonkey:

when people complain about error messages without actually reading them...

[15:11:36]

LabMonkey:

that's really annoying

[15:11:44]

opello:

heh

[15:11:45]

** Juski chuckles **

[15:11:58]

Juski:

a lot of mythtv's error messages are actually self-explanatory

[15:12:15]

Juski:

i.e. "you dipshit.. did you remember to set mythtv to start on a channel that exists?"

[15:12:27]

LabMonkey:

well I mean that emerge output specifically tells you where to read about the problem encountered

[15:12:43]

Juski:

ugh gentoo

[15:12:56]

stuarta:

Juski: you gentoo free now?

[15:12:57]

LabMonkey:

see... if you read the error and it makes no sense at all, like scsi kernel errors or something

[15:13:02]

LabMonkey:

that's understandable

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Bazil:

as i said . sorry for asking

[15:13:31]

Juski:

stuarta: not quite yet.. on Sunday I was beaten back by a faulty mythweb but another checkout should sort that ;)

[15:13:34]

opello:

don't be sorry, learn from the experience...

[15:13:39]

LabMonkey:

Bazil: I'm not trying to be down on you specifically

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LabMonkey:

but this kind of thing happens way more than it should

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LabMonkey:

it's like I setup a teamspeak server for my everquest guild

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Juski:

it's the users' fault for using a distro not suitable for them

[15:14:21]

Juski:

I can't work gentoo out for toffee, so I'm moving

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LabMonkey:

and I created an idiot's-guide-to-setting-up-teamspeak-and-using-our-server on our guild website

[15:14:39]

LabMonkey:

it's all on one page

[15:14:52]

LabMonkey:

the guide is comprehensive and dumbed down quite a bit

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Juski:

the problem with idiot's guides is that idiots read them ;)

[15:15:02]

opello:

but they're everquest players

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LabMonkey:

and it really pisses me off when people send me tells in game asking how to connect

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Juski:

hmmm.. hometimeish

[15:15:37]

LabMonkey:

well... ok that part doesn't piss me off so much

[15:15:39]

LabMonkey:

what does...

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LabMonkey:

they connect to the server and then they fuck up registration

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fryfrog:

LabMonkey: you still play eq?

[15:16:09]

LabMonkey:

or they fuck up their mic settings

[15:16:32]

LabMonkey:

most of the time they have voice activation turned on so that annoying voice-ping-pong thing happens when anyone tries to talk

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opello:

LabMonkey: 'users' have to configure everything under the sun

[15:16:44]

LabMonkey:

so I mute them

[15:16:52]

LabMonkey:

then they send me tells in came asking how to fix it

[15:16:58]

LabMonkey:

now THAT pisses me off

[15:17:19]

LabMonkey:

because they obviously went to the teamspeak page on our site in order to get the ip/port and anon login info

[15:17:31]

LabMonkey:

they're just too goddamned lazy to read the rest of the document

[15:17:34]

LabMonkey:

and I tell them so

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LabMonkey:

fryfrog: yeah I still play eq

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LabMonkey:

opello: learning and configuring things is a requirement for linux stuff

[15:18:44]

LabMonkey:

not so much so for teamspeak

[15:18:56]

LabMonkey:

but there's a bit of instruction-following involved

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opello:

LabMonkey: agreed, but they play with stuff (volume, voice activation setting, whatever)

[15:19:38]

LabMonkey:

and I didn't spend hours one night writing a comprehensive guide with screenshots just so these idiots will bypass the guide and ask me to hold their hand

[15:20:32]

LabMonkey:

my guide covers everything from where to get TS, to how to connect to our server and register, to how to fix your mic so I don't mute you for being stupid

[15:21:02]

LabMonkey:

we've got this one guy...

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LabMonkey:

good player, but dumb as a box of rocks

[15:21:15]

LabMonkey:

he connects anon to the server

[15:21:19]

LabMonkey:

I enable him to register

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LabMonkey:

he registers

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LabMonkey:

disconnects and doesn't come back on for a couple of days

[15:21:34]

opello:

doesn't update the connectio nsettings :)

[15:21:38]

LabMonkey:

right

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opello:

heh

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LabMonkey:

a couple of days later he's back and unregistered again

[15:22:02]

LabMonkey:

because I forgot that he registered, I allow him to register again

[15:22:03]

opello:

and can't use the same name to re-register

[15:22:07]

LabMonkey:

right

[15:22:21]

LabMonkey:

so now he's talking about how his password or username won't work

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opello:

heh

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Bazil:

well .. i understand that .. im sorry that i asked questions ... im brought up a bit different .. i also sit in channels where i happend to know the most of the questions .. however i have a different approach .. instead of like you are doing now... happering 1938 words on the keyboard telling ppl that there idiots i instead help the person directly if i can and then pass on to the next person .. i see here is not the same case

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LabMonkey:

so I go into the user list and remove the user

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LabMonkey:

I let him register again

[15:22:54]

LabMonkey:

and he forgets his password again

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opello:

ad nauseum.

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LabMonkey:

indeed

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stuarta:

can we give up on the OT but otherwise interesting EQ discussion please?

[15:23:41]

opello:

it was about support :)

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LabMonkey:

stuarta: envious of my e-peen?

[15:24:08]

stuarta:

no :) just the SNR was heading a bit to far south

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LabMonkey:

fair enough

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stuarta:

it's normally south, but we were getting a bit tooooo far OT :)

[15:25:04]

LabMonkey:

like Georgia south?

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LabMonkey:

go Squidbillies!

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opello:

oh dear

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LabMonkey:

The A-Truck-alypse!

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ivor:

off topic? there's a topic? heh.

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** stuarta thinks someone needs therapy **

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LabMonkey:

you're probably right

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opello:

eq->squidbillies, yeah

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jcsmith:

g'morning all

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jcsmith:

after doing a fresh install of .20 the channel guide has all of the program information, but below each channel where it used show the network it now only says "adding" has anyone else experienced this?

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fryfrog:

I did when I had used channel scan and not datadirect for info

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** jcsmith thinks he told it to use data direct...hrmm....is that in mythtv-setup? **

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fryfrog:

yeah, when ou bind channles to a card

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fryfrog:

did you run mythtfilldatabase with the backend started?

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lostboy1:

are there any requirements for "Monitor CD/DVD" to work? (hal/dbus, autofs etc...)

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jcsmith:

fryfrog, sorry, i was running thru mythtv-setup again, this time i had it "fetch channels from lstings source" instead of "scan for channels" we'll see how it works now :-D

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jcsmith:

thanks

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jcsmith:

hrmm....i'm still seeing "adding" for everything :(, guess i'll try again, this sure does have a way of making me feel stupid

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jcsmith:

wahoo, deleting the channel source and readding it seems to have worked :-D

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fryfrog:

yeah, was about to say that

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jcsmith:

thanks for the help

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burley-sf:

I upgraded to MythTV 0.20 last week on FC4 and got a dlink dsm-520 to use as a upnp frontend. Issue is that the DSM-520 can play the first few frames of a recording, but then effectively stops. I have noted issues getting replay through nero showtime as well. When I setup the dlink media server, the DSM-520 works fine. So, I believe the issue is somewhere with myth, but am not seeing anyone else reporting any similar issues

[15:58:28]

burley-sf:

on the mailing lists. Is this is a known issue or a new one?

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stuarta:

upnp support is preliminary, so some work is required.

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Hoxzer:

for some reason my heartbeat rises mystically when I hear words "FC" "FC4" "FC5" "fedora core"

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burley-sf:

stuarta: indeed, but the docs noted it should work with a DSM-520

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Zider:

Hoxzer: not the blood pressure? ;)

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Hoxzer:

Zider: maybe it too

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stuarta:

hrm

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burley-sf:

am wondering if its a firmware thing with the 520 (I am on the latest)

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otwin:

Hi there. I imported my .19 channel table into my .20 database. This should work, right?

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Merlin83b:

Did you just overwrite the table?

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burley-sf:

I also downloaded Intel's UPnP tools and they didn't validate it as a media server, could be caused by bad java setup on my windows box, but the notes seem to indicate that he tested against the Intel tools during development

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otwin:

Merlin83b: dropped tabled, then imported .sql

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Merlin83b:

Did you check if there had been any schema changes, otwin?

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Juski:

burley-sf: the uPnP stuff is new, very much unproven on a lot of hardware still

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otwin:

hmm, no...

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stuarta:

otwin: you should start with the complete 0.19 database and let it upgrade it to 0.20

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stuarta:

otherwise, when it breaks, you get to keep both pieces. :)

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otwin:

stuarta: I will try that – thx. thought it would be a good idea to start with a clean db ;-)

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Juski:

nah I've done countless imports of a 0.19 db & upgraded lately.. it's all good :)

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stuarta:

well yes, but you can't go inserting an old db schema ontop of a new one.

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otwin:

ok

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** stuarta is off to see Little Britain in 15mins :) **

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harryk:

is there any documentation on taking mpg files from a hardware encoder (pvr-x / hdtv-5500) and transcoding them to remove commercials?

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harryk:

but keeping it mpeg2?

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stuarta:

lossless mpeg2 – mpeg2 transcoding.

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stuarta:

you need to setup a lossless transcode profile

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harryk:

ok

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** Juski passes stuarta some rotten tomatoes **

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harryk:

can I setup new profiles without stopping the backend?

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fryfrog:

Lets say you have a raid5 array of 320G disks with 8mb cache, sata 150. All I can get as an additional disk is a 320G disk with 16mb *or* 8mb cache, both SATA 300/3Gb/sec

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fryfrog:

the 16mb cache drive is $10 cheaper!

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fryfrog:

go with it?

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fryfrog:

i mean, its not gonna make any difference eitehr way because the other drives will not keep up

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Zider:

same capacity and at least same speed should be enough

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fryfrog:

humm, would a totally different brand of 320G drive be to dirty?

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Zider:

don't think it matter much

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fryfrog:

I would feel so dirty having 5x WD and 1x Seagate 320G drive in my array

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fryfrog:

:(

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fryfrog:

oh well, i guess i'll get over it. the seagate is cheaper with a longer warrenty :p

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Zider:

I feel dirty with just one WD ;)

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fryfrog:

hehe

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Hoxzer:

:/ harryk just incase you didn't notice this channel is being loged and these "Logs" are easily to be found by googling your nick

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Hoxzer:

I found it out by the hard way

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fryfrog:

zawsome!

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fryfrog:

good thing no one ever searches for my name :)

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kslater:

what's the cheapest ATSC HD tuner that I can use with MythTV?

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kslater:

some chucklehead in my cube is telling me I can use a K-World USB tuner

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Juski:

maybe he's right...

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fryfrog:

the air2pc 1st gen cards that do ATSC are like $40 on ebay

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fryfrog:

they *ONLY* do ATSC OTA though, not QAM

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fryfrog:

kslater: you *might* also be able to get HD over firewire from your cable co, if they have firewire output enabled on their boxes

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fryfrog:

and it isn't encrypted

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fryfrog:

i dunno anything about usb though, sorry

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kslater:

I'm a DirecTV customer

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kslater:

no cable in the house

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fryfrog:

ah

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fryfrog:

I wish I was :)

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fryfrog:

I hate comcast

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kslater:

was looking to do OTA HD

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fryfrog:

I have a pair of the air2pc 5th gen cards that do QAM, i like em and they work great with kernel drivers

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kslater:

QAM?

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kslater:

what's the name of the faq bot?

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fryfrog:

is there one?

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fryfrog:

!seen faq bot

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MythLogBot:

faq bot has not been seen here

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fryfrog:

is it him?

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fryfrog:

~help

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fryfrog:

!help

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kslater:

I thought it had a name. I could be mistaken

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fryfrog:

!list

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fryfrog:

guess not him

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kslater:

ok what is QAM?

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kslater:

QAM is an antenna type

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GreyFoxx:

It's a signal modulation scheme

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GreyFoxx:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadrature_amplitude_modulation

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GreyFoxx:

It's the broadcast type used by pretty much all cable companies for broadcasting digital cable

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kslater:

I'm in an area that standard OTA broadcasts have trouble reaching

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kslater:

I don't want to spend bucks on gear for a signal that I might not be able to get (HD OTA)

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kslater:

that's why I was wondering about low buck options

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LLcoolM:

how can i issue broadcasting search with a tv capture card?

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kslater:

thanks fryfrog and greyfoxx, I have some research to do now..

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GreyFoxx:

LLcoolM: A broadcasting search? You mean a channel scan ?

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LLcoolM:

GreyFoxx: yes

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LLcoolM:

channel scan

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LLcoolM:

everytime i launch a scan it starts grabbing information from a website instead of using the tv-capture card

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kormoc:

and how are you launching this 'scan'?

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GreyFoxx:

beat me to it :)

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LLcoolM:

mythv-setup video-source

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kormoc:

and you pressed what button?

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LLcoolM:

channel scan i suppose

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kormoc:

you sure you didn't press 'get lineup'?

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LLcoolM:

no

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LLcoolM:

but i need to assign a video source to the tv capture card

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kormoc:

well, they are two very different functions

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kormoc:

sure, but if you're in the US, you don't do a scan

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LLcoolM:

otherwise i cannot even use it

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GreyFoxx:

"Channel Scanner" is under Channel Editor, not Video sources

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kormoc:

well, actually, most people don't do scan's

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LLcoolM:

<--- not in the use

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kormoc:

are you using DVB?

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LLcoolM:

kormoc: but instead`

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LLcoolM:

no

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LLcoolM:

analog tv

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kormoc:

so why scan?

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LLcoolM:

kormoc: to use channels?

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kormoc:

but you don't need to...

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LLcoolM:

otherwise i cannot watch tv?

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LLcoolM:

huh?

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GreyFoxx:

if your country has an xmltv grabber you shouldn't need to scan for the channels

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kormoc:

you are likely using XMLTV, which grabs and setups the channels and all the channel data via a website

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kormoc:

and thus, no need to scan

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kormoc:

as well as that would be why it was connecting to a website to get data

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LLcoolM:

kormoc: well it doesnt specify the frequencies though

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kormoc:

sure it does

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GreyFoxx:

LLcoolM: It doesn't have to if they are using standard frequencies

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kormoc:

when you setup the card, you selected a frequency table, it uses that

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LLcoolM:

well, that frequency table doesnt give me anything

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LLcoolM:

even though it is right

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kormoc:

LLcoolM, did you let the xmltv downloader complete?

[18:00:22]

LLcoolM:

yes, and it didnt help much

[18:00:28]

LLcoolM:

most of all no frequency is assigned to each channel

[18:00:30]

LLcoolM:

so no picture, no sound

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kormoc:

you sure you setup the grabber for the right country and all that jazz?

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GreyFoxx:

A frequency doesn't get placed in there unless it is different than the standard

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GreyFoxx:

Those frequency fields are overrides for when a channel is not found in the expected location

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kormoc:

Ahh, niftyness to know

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LLcoolM:

i chose europe-west

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Tuju:

hi

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LLcoolM:

well in case i just try to launch mythtv it crashes

[18:03:44]

Tuju:

http://linpvr.org/minimyth/document.shtml I expected to see 'installation instructions' on this page.

[18:03:50]

LLcoolM:

LiveTV not successfully started

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kormoc:

LLcoolM, no matter what the card is set to, it should never crash, what's the log say? what's the frontend spit out?

[18:04:34]

LLcoolM:

Error: LiveTV not successfully started

[18:04:47]

LLcoolM:

Getentryat(-1) failed

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kormoc:

there's more then that I'm sure

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Anduin:

LLcoolM: Look at the backend log as well

[18:06:36]

LLcoolM:

yeah much more

[18:06:38]

LLcoolM:

but i cannot type everything in here

[18:06:41]

LLcoolM:

it is on another box

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GreyFoxx:

LLcoolM: cut and paste from the other box onto pastebin.ca

[18:07:04]

LLcoolM:

i can log on via ssh though

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GreyFoxx:

then give us the link

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LLcoolM:

http://rafb.net/paste/results/ZYLlUG21.html

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LLcoolM:

but i cannot bind video to something else than xmltv (which i do not want)

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LLcoolM:

and i do not want it because it doesnt have a network connection at all times

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LLcoolM:

/dev/video0 exists though

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kormoc:

LLcoolM, erm... why use mythtv then?

[18:09:50]

kormoc:

LLcoolM, without a network connection, how would myth know when shows are on to record?

[18:10:02]

LLcoolM:

kormoc: by time?

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LLcoolM:

i want a replacement for a videorecorder/tv

[18:10:26]

kormoc:

LLcoolM, myth tends to work by saying, I like startrek, so record startrek...

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kormoc:

and it finds whenever it's on and records it for you

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LLcoolM:

i mean something like a classical videorecorder

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kormoc:

myth can do that, but it's not really intended for it, as you won't get any meta data or anything

[18:11:21]

kormoc:

and as for why it's not working, lines 2, 3, and 4 sorta tell you why

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LLcoolM:

kormoc: nice gimmic, but i need it to work first before thinking about any gimmics

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kormoc:

well, read those lines and do what it says and then it would likely work

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LLcoolM:

kormoc: what can i bind the video to other than xmltv?

[18:12:07]

kormoc:

there's three parts to setting up a tuner card in myth

[18:12:11]

kormoc:

1. setup the tuner card

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kormoc:

2. setup the video sources

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kormoc:

3. bind a video source to a input on the tuner card

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LLcoolM:

done (video0

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LLcoolM:

not done, because there is only xmltv

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LLcoolM:

not done because of 2

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LLcoolM:

how can i skip the second`

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LLcoolM:

i would like to use epg data instead

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kormoc:

you just can't

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LLcoolM:

hmm

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LLcoolM:

ok, will have to remove mythtv then

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LLcoolM:

do you know a replacement that can live without a network connection?

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kraut:

hi

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kraut:

how do i specify, to wich host the frontend should connect?

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LLcoolM:

but wait, it seems it will work with Transmitted guide only

[18:17:58]

LLcoolM:

but that still doesnt give me a frequency

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LLcoolM:

but this knoppmyth is a catastrophy in itself

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Juski:

kraut: the frontend should connect to the backend. you tell it where the mysql server lives in ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt then it should find the backend via that

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LLcoolM:

i guess i need to set it up myself

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kraut:

so i need to change the backend address in the mysql table?

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Juski:

kraut: if the backend is still running on 127.0.0.1 and the frontend is on a different machine, yes

[18:20:20]

Juski:

but don't change it in the table. change it in mythtv-setup

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Juski:

you can do all kinds of damage messing around with the database yourself

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kraut:

i think i got it

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kraut:

something went wrong with the first running of setup

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kormoc:

LLcoolM, how would you get the EPG via a analog tuner?

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LLcoolM:

kormoc: i do not know exactly how it works, but it does :)

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kraut:

Error getting inputs for the capturecard. Perhaps you have

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kraut:

forgotten to bind video sources to your card's inputs?

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LLcoolM:

http://nxtvepg.sourceforge.net/index-de.html <-- look at this one

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kraut:

grml

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Juski:

ahhh teletext.. I was wondering when somebody was gonna knock a teletext grabber out

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LLcoolM:

Juski: i think it is something else but similar to teletext

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kormoc:

yeah, not really EPG

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kormoc:

ooh?

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kormoc:

Nextview is a free electronic program magazine together with the Teletext (aka videotex) in the TV signal (similar to and digitally by DVB) is transferred

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LLcoolM:

kormoc: it is epg, just the analog version :)

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kormoc:

it says it uses teletext in the first description

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LLcoolM:

kormoc: no it says it uses something broadcasted TOGETHER with teletext

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Juski:

it's all VBI data... so finally those annoying dots that bother so many users (until they overscan them out) have a use!

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LLcoolM:

it does NOT use teletext

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kormoc:

LLcoolM, and it is?

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Juski:

no good for PVR150 owners though.. pfft

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sdlnxgk:

what is the best card to buy??? i'm running kubuntu dapper drake

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kormoc:

magically, my m179 is capturing closed captioning

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LLcoolM:

question is: it still doesnt show me proper video signal though i specified channel correctly

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kormoc:

now I need to write a patch for show CC on Mute

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Juski:

m179 != pvr150

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kormoc:

did I say it was?

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kraut:

i added my v4l card in the setup but i am not able to scan for any channels :(

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Juski:

sdlnxgk: what is the best shirt to wear ?

[18:30:32]

sdlnxgk:

Juski light short sleeve cotton from hanes

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Juski:

how long is a piece of string?

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LLcoolM:

kraut: so do i

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sdlnxgk:

Juski about 12 inches long

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sdlnxgk:

I know there are cards that don't work with linux

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Juski:

sdlnxgk: which tuner card you need, and which would be best for you depends on your needs and your budget. neither of which you have said anything about

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sdlnxgk:

I don't want keep returning cards

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sdlnxgk:

ok don't want to spend over $150 would like to watch and record at the same time

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kormoc:

how many streams?

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kormoc:

you can get a pvr 500 for that, so you can record 2x streams at once

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Juski:

SDTV? HDTV ? hardware encoding?

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sdlnxgk:

I was looking a pvr 500 for $50

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** Juski laughs **

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** kormoc blinks **

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kormoc:

sdlnxgk, where?

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sdlnxgk:

ebay used

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kraut:

LLcoolM: i added tvtoday as channel source but the setup says, it's not able to connect and i need to run mythfilldatabase --manual, wich i did therefore :(

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kormoc:

ooh

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kormoc:

$50 + $100 shipping :P

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sdlnxgk:

nope

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sdlnxgk:

12 bucks shipping

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kormoc:

guess you should bid then, hopefully it'll work

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kraut:

ah, but i am able to start the backend now

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sdlnxgk:

i'm sure it will work if not I get my money back since the guy lives in california

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sdlnxgk:

so I take it that is the card to get then ;)

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kraut:

and i'll get a video stream in the frontend but i could not switch a channel

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Juski:

kraut: you need to do some reading

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sdlnxgk:

kormoc just have to becarful on ebay... plus since i'm running linux I have to be extra carful to get the correct hardware the first time :)

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Juski:

hardware-encoder-wise you have Hauppauge PVR cards and one or two others... nothing else will work

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kraut:

0000:02:08.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11)

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Juski:

kraut: do some reading about how to set up mythtv properly. if you don't understand what you read, ask questions about it. Judging by what you have said so far it's my guess that you haven't done any research yet

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Pryon:

sdlnxgk: If you tell the guy you want to return it because the card has Samsung tuners and the ivtv drivers don't work for it do you think you'll get a refund?

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kraut:

Juski: not really, but it's long time ago ;)

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Juski:

Pryon: samsung tuner issues have all been identified now AFAIK

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Pryon:

Ah. Cool.

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Juski:

whether or not they work in specific versions of ivtv is up for debate

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Juski:

be nice if they did a pvr card with RGB input though

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fryfrog:

i just hope to god that HDMI input card gets linux / myuth support someday

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fryfrog:

even if it doesn't do hdcp

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Klink:

Is it possible to receive Dish Network with a DVB-S card and the appropriate card reader?

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Honk^away:

does mythtv run with ivtv 0.8.0 and a 2.6.18 kernel?

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Juski:

Klink: nope

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Juski:

Klink: there is no 'appropriate card reader'

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Klink:

Juski: I take it there is a card reader for europe?

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opello:

dish shuold just sell pci cards with the card slot on them to make people happy

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Juski:

opello: people would be very happy. apart from the content providers of course...

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opello:

shh :) they don't matter :*

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Klink:

do dvb-s cards support HiDef?

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Juski:

Klink: most European HD is broadcast with DVB-S2, which ain't well supported in linux yet

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kraut:

ah, i need to install xmltv to grab the channel-list, GAH

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Klink:

Juski, Thanks for the info

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Juski:

oh ffs Blender is impossible to just pick up & use

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scopeuk:

Juski seriously any one of us could have said that

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Juski:

I picked up Cinema4D & made a full 3D animated logo for a DVD menu a while back

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kormoc:

Juski, ooh? I just take some ice, add some alcohol and some fruit juices, press a button, wait, and drink. it's all happy and simple!

[19:10:31]

Juski:

bunny fugger

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scopeuk:

billy slugger is more like it

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Juski:

the UI in Blender is all wrong. they make it too easy to screw things up yet simple things like moving a camera are overcomplicated

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scopeuk:

lol

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opello:

[]mix []chop []puree ... sorry

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** Juski once made a cool video of a running/breakdancing skeleton for the club where he worked **

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opello:

cool

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Juski:

.. using only ready-made files grabbed off the internet, I might add

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Juski:

but a 3d animated mythtv logo? hah!

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opello:

so does it export to opengl generated c/c++ code? i think other stuff does such trickery, or do they use some sort of model format?

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Juski:

it's supposed to be an all-in-one thing

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Juski:

I used to use a ripped-off copy of 3DS but I'm past doing stuff like that now

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opello:

heh

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Juski:

I have a limited version of Cinema 4D somewhere that'll do the job

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Juski:

I wouldn't care – I'm sure it'd be easy enough in Blender if the documentation was there

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scopeuk:

no even with documentation blender is stil la bitch

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Juski:

la be-atch, wo-man

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Juski:

speaking of wo-man... mrs J wanted me to record 4 shows at the same time tonight

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Juski:

dammit!

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Juski:

when my test machine is done with I might just add that spare dvb-t tuner into the backend.. but then I'm really gonna need an aerial amp

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thespore:

I'm trying to follow the ubuntu installation guide from the wiki, and it's written for the pvr250. I have the pvr-500mce. Can someone help me on how to install this card?

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Juski:

thespore: basically the same setup procedure as the pvr250, but without the remote stuff. Oh and you have 2 tuner cards in one with the pvr500 so don't forget to add the other in mythtv-setup

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thespore:

okay thanks

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thespore:

so I can use the pvr250_18a_inf.zip

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Juski:

just download the firmware from ivtvdriver.org – no sweat

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thespore:

okay also, is there a mirror of the mythtv wiki, cause it's going insanely slow

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Juski:

nope

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GreyFoxx:

Cool, someone took the AMI bios from an S100 and has it working on his msntv2

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GreyFoxx:

and he got vga working with just 5 jumpers and a vga connector

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opello:

nice

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opello:

i have one of those sitting at home now, just have to buy that ttl logic chip and some caps

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GreyFoxx:

Cool. Got my playback startup time on my msntv2 down from 10 seconds to 1.6

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opello:

link to the vga?

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Anduin:

GreyFoxx: Have you played with the IEGD 5.1 drivers yet?

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GreyFoxx:

Anduin: I have them installed on one, but haven't used them yet. Hopeing to do that tonight

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Juski:

GreyFoxx: that might've been fer2

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GreyFoxx:

Juski: Nope, it was codeman from linux-hacker.net

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GreyFoxx:

I mentioned that fer was trying to do it, so he went out and actually did it

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Juski:

ah. fer2 was hassling me to extract my s100 bios

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GreyFoxx:

:)

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Juski:

lol

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Juski:

since I can't find my cinema4d CD I'm designing the new mythtv case badge

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GreyFoxx:

and it looks like it can be flashed over the existing bios the same way we do now to get it running linux.

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GreyFoxx:

It should even boot windows if someone wanted

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GreyFoxx:

or off a USB drive

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Juski:

damn old blue theme background has only like 256 colours

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Juski:

the png has 24 bit colour, but you can see the graduations

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Juski:

don't spose anyone has the original springy graphic files... ?

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Juski:

before I go off & photograph my wire eggcups :-P

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GreyFoxx:

heh

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Juski:

ahhh.. duplicate the layer, do a major gaussian blur & just mask the details off :)

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Juski:

fixed!

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afrosheen:

good job

[19:58:32]

kraut:

when i want to add channels from a source, i should use mythfilldatabase --manual, but when i use that, i'll get that error:

[19:58:36]

kraut:

http://pastebin.ca/190178

[19:58:37]

kraut:

does anybody know why?

[19:59:27]

kraut:

isn't http://datadirect.webservices.zap2it.com/tvlistings/xtvdService the wrong source for tvtoday?

[19:59:42]

kraut:

tv_grab_de_tvtoday isn't a problem, it will add my channels

[20:00:13]

afrosheen:

does anyone have a list of recordable channels in Dallas for time warner? I emailed TW about it but they won't tell me which ones are 5c or not..

[20:01:09]

afrosheen:

they have some digital channels flagged as 'record once' therefore the channel won't go out via firewire on the hd box I have..

[20:01:38]

Juski:

http://www.juski.co.uk/newcasebadge1.png and http://www.juski.co.uk/newcasebadge2.png

[20:02:07]

Juski:

kraut: you didn't select the right grabber in mythtv-setup

[20:02:18]

GreyFoxx:

I like the first one

[20:03:04]

** afrosheen stares at the wall **

[20:03:41]

Juski:

GreyFoxx: with the antenna-ish thing? me too. I'll get a load of them ordered :)

[20:04:18]

Juski:

afrosheen: assume nobody has a list. pretty sucky way for TW to behave though

[20:04:31]

Juski:

they can change the flag per-programme anyway

[20:06:32]

GreyFoxx:

Juski: Yeah, I like that one

[20:06:55]

Juski:

I'll put you down for a gross of them then ;-)

[20:07:02]

GreyFoxx:

hehe

[20:07:28]

Juski:

I found a supplier online who'll do customised remotes too

[20:07:40]

scopeuk:

yeh for what 500 ea?

[20:07:57]

GreyFoxx:

Juski: Now that would be nifty]

[20:08:00]

Juski:

they don't give prices

[20:08:06]

GreyFoxx:

do they have a catalog of the remotes online ?

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Juski:

we got some OEM remotes done for work

[20:08:15]

scopeuk:

juski thats always a bad sign imho

[20:08:19]

orogor:

hum

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GreyFoxx:

Juski: I'd be interested in acouple of those

[20:08:40]

orogor:

i can t get mythtv to work

[20:08:45]

GreyFoxx:

depending on the remote hehe

[20:08:46]

Juski:

the last one was a proper PVR style remote too :)

[20:09:10]

orogor:

i somehow fixed the epg stuff

[20:09:18]

Juski:

many entries in the logo 'competition' yet? :-P

[20:09:37]

orogor:

there s still an issue with start up time , it s waaayy too long

[20:13:14]

orogor:

i got the output full of theses messages Expiring Unknown from Tue Oct 3 21:20:11 2006, 0 MBytes, forced expire (LiveTV recording)

[20:13:54]

afrosheen:

Juski, yeah and they act like they don't even know what they flag and what they don't

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orogor:

and right now all connections to client end up like this : 2006-10–03 22:13:50.338 MythSocket(81da9a8:18): readStringList: Error, timeout (quick).

[20:14:31]

orogor:

2006-10–03 22:13:50.338 Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION:

[20:14:48]

orogor:

well sometime it works, but i dont know if it linked to something special

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orogor:

allo ?

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simcop2387:

stupid fox

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orogor:

Oo'

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kormoc:

orogor, you need the backends and the frontends to be using the same version

[20:28:17]

orogor:

they are

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kormoc:

well, then something is foobared in your network setup

[20:28:53]

kormoc:

sure you don't have say, two computers shareing a ip address or similar?

[20:29:19]

orogor:

i am using 127.0.0.1

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kraut:

Juski: i did, but it won't be saved :/

[20:30:59]

kraut:

Juski: after i finished the source-setup i need to answer some questions in the terminal and then getting this:

[20:31:02]

kraut:

Finished configuration.

[20:31:05]

kraut:

You _MUST_ run 'mythfilldatabase --manual the first time, instead

[20:31:07]

kraut:

of just 'mythfilldatabase'. Your grabber does not provide

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kraut:

channel numbers, so you have to set them manually.

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kormoc:

orogor, that's ultra strange...

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orogor:

anyone running mythtv ?

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kormoc:

orogor, nope, we're all here for the girls

[21:09:14]

orogor:

err

[21:09:18]

orogor:

i meant gentoo

[21:09:23]

orogor:

<<

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orogor:

>>

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kormoc:

I run gentoo

[21:09:34]

** orogor look out for girls **

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orogor:

unstable ?

[21:09:47]

afrosheen:

yep

[21:09:55]

orogor:

hummm

[21:10:10]

kormoc:

aye

[21:10:29]

afrosheen:

centos is a good base for mythtv from what my friend tells me

[21:10:48]

orogor:

i run media-tv/mythtv-0.20_p11281

[21:11:10]

afrosheen:

I run knoppmyth so it's debian-ish

[21:11:26]

** ivor blinks and looks up for the girls.. **

[21:12:53]

kusznir:

Hi all: I'm having trouble getting a diskless slave be to register/connect to the master be. The fe on the same box works fine.

[21:13:08]

scopeuk:

im sure there are some but two points 1). they wont andd mit i becouse apparenttly all guys are perverts and 2). they will be in the minority

[21:13:56]

kusznir:

I've run mythtv-setup and configured the "master backend IP" and this machines IP approprately.

[21:14:44]

kusznir:

And restarted the backend (and whole machine) several times. The status web page on the master be doesn't even show an entry for the slave be (vs showing it as "disconnected").

[21:14:56]

kusznir:

Is there something I'm missing here? How do I troubleshoot this further?

[21:15:29]

kormoc:

kusznir, you sure you used ip addresses they both can talk to?

[21:15:51]

kusznir:

Yep. The FE on the same box talks to the master BE without an issue.

[21:15:51]

kormoc:

what's the backend logs for both machines say?

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orogor:

kormoc, would u be french ?

[21:16:46]

kormoc:

orogor, nope

[21:16:50]

kormoc:

why?

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afrosheen:

kormoc, r u n 2 french fries

[21:17:19]

orogor:

because french xmltv grabber has issues

[21:17:27]

orogor:

i wonder if there s a fixed one around

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orogor:

also anyone know what is going on with imdb script ?

[21:17:54]

kormoc:

Mmm... Deep fried potato products...

[21:17:58]

** kormoc homer drools **

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kusznir:

kormoc: it indicates that it has connected to the master backend sucessfully. It ran a commertial detection job from the master be.

[21:18:09]

orogor:

i think it s a mythtv issue, if i run the script manually , it s fine , if i use the front end i have no result

[21:18:30]

kusznir:

(it = slave be; the master be log is very large, as its been busy :) )

[21:18:38]

kusznir:

still looking, though.

[21:18:40]

orogor:

smelly cheese !

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afrosheen:

cheese logs

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lostboy1:

Juski doesn't like gentoo?

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Juski:

I've put up with it for 2 years & still haven't got the hang of it completely

[21:34:11]

kusznir:

My gentoo mythtv box was one of the most maintainable and most tuned I did...I switched to knoppmyth for ease-of-upgrades.

[21:34:58]

Honk^away:

what's wrong with upgrading gentoo? =)

[21:35:09]

Juski:

don't get me started

[21:35:16]

Honk^away:

=D

[21:35:23]

lostboy1:

well, dedicated mythtv boxes shouldn't get upgraded unless somethings broke

[21:35:42]

kormoc:

or a want for new features

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Juski:

I did something, or something happened that means to upgrade to mythtv 0.20 I need to rebuild X & just about everything

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** kormoc blinks **

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Honk^away:

Juski: well.. huh?

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Juski:

so seeing as I'd have to just about reinstall I figured I might aswell switch to a binary distro instead

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lostboy1:

well, I will admit X has been kind of a bish the past few months, switching from monolitic to modular

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Juski:

Honk^away: my CPU is only 2Ghz.. I can't wait 24 hours

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Juski:

and knowing it wouldn't be the last time I'd have to do it...

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Honk^away:

upgrading X takes barely more than an hour

[21:37:51]

Honk^away:

and you can do it at night

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Juski:

that's time without a working mythbox though

[21:38:17]

kormoc:

ooh? why's that?

[21:38:23]

kormoc:

I update mine while it's going

[21:38:23]

lostboy1:

true, I built a mythfront end from scratch in about 6 hours

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Honk^away:

kormoc: he broke his mythtv ;)

[21:38:34]

Juski:

Honk^away: STFU

[21:38:36]

kormoc:

just keep the compile at nice +19 and it's happy

[21:38:40]

Honk^away:

it's true, isnt it? =)

[21:38:44]

Juski:

I'm changing to gentoo, end of story :)

[21:38:51]

Juski:

ubuntu I mean

[21:38:53]

Juski:

duh

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kormoc:

Juski, to gentoo?! glad to hear it!

[21:39:00]

kormoc:

ooh, hehe :P

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orogor:

haaa , it s better with a mouse

[21:39:08]

orogor:

i was almost going to buy a remote

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Honk^away:

using the mouse on your bed?

[21:39:34]

Honk^away:

that's gotta be a long cable =)

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orogor:

wireless one

[21:40:02]

orogor:

45€ kbd+mouse

[21:40:05]

kormoc:

meh, my remote is much nicer for myth then a mouse would be, but it's dedicated

[21:40:18]

Honk^away:

well.. a keyboard is ok

[21:40:21]

Honk^away:

a mouse is pretty useless =)

[21:40:28]

Honk^away:

anyway.. does mythtv work with ivtv 0.8?

[21:40:44]

orogor:

right now i am just going throught the menus and try to get stuff working

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Juski:

Honk^away: svn probably will

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kormoc:

Honk^away, why wouldn't it?

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Juski:

kormoc: API changes, maybe? ;)

[21:41:17]

Honk^away:

cuz i read something about 0.20 not working with it ;)

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GreyFoxx:

I think there was some ivtv header changeswhich only svn works with

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kormoc:

I'm amused that cardoe is in this weeks gentoo newletter bitching about ebuilds changing too much :P

[21:41:49]

Honk^away:

aw well.. if that's the case, i might put some effort into fixing the ebuild for me ;)

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kormoc:

huh, I could have sworn that ivtv 0.8 was just a kernel version update and no API changes

[21:42:02]

Juski:

Honk^away: anyway.. mythtv on my gentoo box isn't what's broken. gentoo is broken

[21:42:14]

Honk^away:

sure sure

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BULLE:

Juski: why is gentoo broken ?

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kormoc:

now now Juski, don't want to start a distro war...

[21:42:37]

BULLE:

kormoc: im just intrested in his motivation

[21:42:40]

** Juski mutters something about not reading the emerge notes because he didn't know about the emerge logs **

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BULLE:

Juski: he

[21:43:12]

Juski:

blah blah blah.. important config changes.. fooo, etc ,.... million lines of compiler text....

[21:43:22]

kusznir:

Ok. My longs on the slave indicate no errors. On my master server, I see: adding: myth-familyrm as a slave backend server. On the slave be, it says both that the external channel change command appears to be working and that it is connected to the master backend (and is configured as a slave backend).

[21:43:59]

kusznir:

Connecting to port 6544 (web status) on both machines shows they both see their local tuner, but the master does NOT see the slave's tuner (and hence is not scheduling anything on it).

[21:44:05]

kusznir:

Any suggestions?

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BULLE:

Juski: yeah, one would think that they could atleast separate the output so its easy to find and read

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Juski:

BULLE: it IS, only I didn't find out about it til wayyyy too late

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BULLE:

Juski: oh

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nordle:

Hi guys, I've just built 0.20 (1st time) and its basically my old athlon64 box but in a new shiny case with new nvidia 6200, dvdrw drive, imon remote and 3.5 smart card reader. Thats the only differences, but I now have this thing where after 20–30mins there is this popping / crackling sound from speakers, sounds like rain drops and wind rushing outide. Even when I close all the apps, drop to cli, its still there. Any body suggest any avenues. The

[21:46:33]

Juski:

the upshot is, something to do with march config stuff is borked after the last time I upgraded portage

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Juski:

so, as great as it is for folks who love it, it ain't for me. end of...

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kusznir:

J7tt

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Honk^away:

wai, wai, i made ivtv compile :P

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kusznir:

kormac: My logs look good, I just double-checked all my mythtv-setup settings and they're both set with the valid, accessable IPs. My slave be is communicating with my master be for jobs and playback, but it doesn't seem to notify the master that it has a tuner. Where else can I debug / what else am I missing?

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nasa:

hi, I am trying to get my sa3250HD box to talk to my myth box — but all plugreport returns is: libiec61883 error: error reading oMPR &&

[22:12:06]

nasa:

libiec61883 error: error reading iMPR — for both nodes. What am I missing?

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kormoc:

kusznir, and you did setup the tuner on the slave?

[22:13:18]

Tuju:

http://linpvr.org/minimyth/document-boot.shtml

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kormoc:

kusznir, mythtv-setup when ran on the slave shows the tuner as all happy?

[22:13:27]

Tuju:

Download the files that are necessary for booting a RAM root file system. These files can be found in the 'ram-minimyth-{version}.tar.bz2' file in a MiniMyth distribution download directory.

[22:13:34]

Tuju:

http://linpvr.org/minimyth/download/stable/latest/

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** kormoc raises an eyebrow at Tuju **

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Tuju:

there are no files starting with ram*

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kormoc:

likely in one of the tarballs

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Tuju:

ah

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kusznir:

Yea...double-checked that too. The slave's http port 6544 shows a local tuner, not doing anything and not scheduled for anything. The slave's log indicates its happy with the channel change program.

[22:14:26]

kormoc:

check the readme.txt file

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kusznir:

I don't know how else to check the tuner.

[22:14:50]

Tuju:

it mentions some mystical gar, sfs and tar prefixes.

[22:14:51]

kormoc:

strangeness

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kormoc:

Tuju, maybe it's no longer supported?

[22:15:07]

Tuju:

don't know.

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Tuju:

don't feel that docs are very good either.

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kusznir:

kormoc: any other suggestions?

[22:16:19]

kusznir:

(I have about 4 hours left to fix this, or there will be hell to pay.......)

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Juski:

Tuju: I installed minimyth from a ram- file last weekend

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Tuju:

mmm, actually that page says that download that ram* file. nothing about something being inside anything.

[22:16:33]

Tuju:

you did?

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Tuju:

which version?

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kormoc:

kusznir, honestly, I don't really, other then to double check though mytvtv-setup on the slave, checking everything again

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Juski:

the ram* file is a .bz2 file containing everything

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Juski:

http://linpvr.org/minimyth/download/test/late . . . 19b8.tar.bz2

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Tuju:

mmm, readme.txt on that dir doesn't say that some file would 'contain everything'.

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Tuju:

that's test release

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Tuju:

I'm looking stable.

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Tuju:

looking for stable.

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Tuju:

http://linpvr.org/minimyth/download/stable/latest/ doesn't have such.

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Juski:

http://linpvr.org/minimyth/download/stable/latest/readme.txt

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Tuju:

Juski, yep and that file doesn' tlist any ram* file.

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Juski:

btw there's no 'stable' 0.20 release for minimyth yet

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Tuju:

I would be happy with 0.19 as http://linpvr.org/minimyth/download.shtml claims to be latest stable.

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Juski:

I tried one from testing at the weekend & it works fine

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Tuju:

Juski, ack – I'll try that too.

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Juski:

Tuju: it's only for a frontend on an Epia system, you know that don't you?

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Tuju:

just feel confused for all conflicting docs.

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Juski:

yeah well they updated the docs a little too soon after not updating the site for a long, long, long time

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Tuju:

didn't know that it was only for epia, but I have MII

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Juski:

http://linpvr.org/minimyth/download/stable/latest/docs/

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Juski:

and it's only a _frontend_

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Tuju:

I noticed that :) Was here at weekend and thought that came to wrong site :)

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Juski:

you can't record with it

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Juski:

anyway – bedtime for me

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Tuju:

mmmm, yes, I have server x86_64 and epia frontend.

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Tuju:

but that frontend is the thing what needs the ram filesystem – right? :)

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Zyxus:

[Zyxus()]

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cesman:

howdy folks

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disant:

howdy partner

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cesman:

hello disant

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GreyFoxx:

Anduin: So far IEGD 5.1 isn't showingme any love. starting X reboots my box :)

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simcop2387:

i hate fox tonight, they pushed back house to next week for a stupid baseball game :(

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Anduin:

GreyFoxx: Yeah, I didn't get reboots, but also didn't get a usable screen.

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cesman:

I hate it when playoff season comes around.....

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moxjake:

Having trouble compiling mythtv 0.20 with dvb support error: "libmythtv-0.20.so: undefined reference to 'DiSEqCDevLNB::GetIntermediateFrequency(DiSEqCDevSettings const7, DVBTuning const&) const'"

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cesman:

stupid sports....

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cesman:

isn't that what ESPN, et al is for?

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simcop2387:

i'd say so but not them it would seem

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simcop2387:

well off for a nap

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disant:

mythweb kicks a55!

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Zider:

afivefive?

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Zider:

or afiftytwo?

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GreyFoxx:

Anduin: What kernel version did you try ?

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Zider:

fiftyfive even

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GreyFoxx:

If I start X with the DRI option set to yes it reboots, if I leave it off it ust locks solid

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GreyFoxx:

2.6.15.7 on this test

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disant:

a five five not

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thespore:

Anyone know where I can get help with mvpmc installation?

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disant:

anyone has Explorer 4200HD Firewire setup working? Cant get the channel switching work the right way

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nasa:

disant — did you have any problems having your 4000 noticed on the firewire chain? I am having issues with seeing my 3250 on my system....

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Klink:

I'm trying out a script for my dct6200 But 6200ch tellms me that it can't find the DCT-6200 on the 1394 bus...but it is there and it does work in mythtv.

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Zyxus:

[Zyxus()]

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mall0c:

what filesystem works best with myth?

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siXy:

xfs imo

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mall0c:

ok, thanks

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fryfrog:

speaking of xfs, xfs_fsr FTW :)

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fryfrog:

and damnit, heroes is good!

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