Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Thursday, September 21st, 2006, 00:00 UTC

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Paladine:

it is nice and easy

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radi0head:

Paladine; It's incomplete

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Paladine:

oh in what sense?

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radi0head:

Paladine; I use the CLI only sorry, more features and it works.

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radi0head:

krisp_; What about those low profile cases like this one: http://www.mini-itx.com/store/?c=3 ( Low Profile Media Case – Matt Black ) It looks like my PVR-150 would not fit.

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radi0head:

Paladine; Tell me what you want to do.

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krisp_:

can get a low profile pvr-150 card

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krisp_:

but if you have a standard pci version no it wont fit

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Paladine:

just give the video files a more descriptive name in themenus

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radi0head:

krisp_; Too late, I already bought it hehe.

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robbins876:

Error: Missing Dependency: libmp4ff.so.0 is needed by package mythmusic

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robbins876:

what the f?

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radi0head:

robbins876; Pretty selfexplanatory right?

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bRuZdEGO:

ok, anyone use svn?

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Paladine:

man remind me to uninstall gmplayer

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radi0head:

Paladine; Why?

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robbins876:

yeah, i think so

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Paladine:

cos it hangs and won't let me kill the frickin thing

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bRuZdEGO:

i've just downloaded a new copy of svn, and for some stupid reason the Makefile is symlinked onti it's self.....

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Paladine:

pwd

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bRuZdEGO:

and hence, it will not make, because there is no make file.....

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radi0head:

Paladine; mplayer is my favorite player :D

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bRuZdEGO:

where is the makefile location? am I assuming correctly <mythtvdir>/config/Makefile ?

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Paladine:

yeah mplayer is

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Paladine:

but not that POS Mplayer that comes with with ubuntu

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Paladine:

which opens by default unless you change it

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radi0head:

Paladine; Ah okay.

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robbins876:

did FC5 get a new kernel or something last night or today?

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robbins876:

that's the only reason i can figure as to why my sound doesn't work since i rebooted

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Anduin:

bRuZdEGO: No, run mythtv/configure, qmake, make

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radi0head:

#fedora

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Anduin:

robbins876: There was a new one a few days ago.

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robbins876:

oh, and it's been awhile since i've rebooted.

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robbins876:

hopefully this update rectifies my sound card issue.

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radi0head:

robbins876; /sbin/lspci

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radi0head:

robbins876; Paste it in pastebin.ca

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robbins876:

http://pastebin.ca/178106

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radi0head:

robbins876; Can you paste the output of lsmod now?

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robbins876:

sure

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robbins876:

http://pastebin.ca/178110

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radi0head:

su -c "modprobe snd-intel8x0"

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radi0head:

Your sound card's module isn't loaded.

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Paladine:

I presume the encode takes a while?

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robbins876:

http://pastebin.ca/178113

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radi0head:

Paladine; What are you encoding?

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Paladine:

4.2GB worth of mpeg2s

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robbins876:

what's the command to see what kernel you're running?

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Paladine:

fully dvd compliant mpeg2s

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robbins876:

uname -r?

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robbins876:

yep

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robbins876:

nevermind

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radi0head:

Paladine; Encoding to what?

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Paladine:

to dvd

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robbins876:

still running the 2174 kernel it looks like. why is it that mine hasn't updated?

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radi0head:

Paladine; wait, try idvid -fast myfile.mpg

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Paladine:

it is already encoding now hehe

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radi0head:

robbins876; You found your problem

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radi0head:

Paladine; Why encoding a file which could be already in mpeg2 (dvd format)

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Paladine:

cos thats what the wiki said to do for the gui version

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radi0head:

Paladine; fsck the gui

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radi0head:

:)

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radi0head:

Paladine; Always check your files first with idvid -fast foo.mpg

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Paladine:

I already know they are fully compliant

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radi0head:

then why are you reencoding them if they are complient?

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radi0head:

s/complient/compliant

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Paladine:

cos I was following the instructions :p

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radi0head:

Please show me those instructions.

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Paladine:

http://tovid.wikia.com/wiki/Using_the_tovid_GUI

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radi0head:

If the files are already compliant, don't encode them for nothing, what is the purpose of encoding files in the same format as they are?

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Paladine:

ok so give me the quick method using the cli

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robbins876:

/msg nickserv link robbins876 g00dgu355

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radi0head:

Well, which version do you have?

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Paladine:

28

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radi0head:

Paladine; todisc is great for that! I'll give you an example.

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Paladine:

I just wanna build a dvd iso from my mpegs

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radi0head:

paste me your files titles in pastebin.ca

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Paladine:

sec

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PiTT:

im having a problem in ubuntu trying to install my wintv 150 drivers, the ivtv, i dont have a /usr/lib/hotplug/ dir

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PiTT:

should i just create it?

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Paladine:

http://pastebin.ca/178120

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radi0head:

PiTT; I think ubuntu uses udev instead of hotplug, not sure though.

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PiTT:

lemme check

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radi0head:

Paladine; What title do you want?

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Paladine:

disklabel "New Yankee Workshop", Menu Title "Select an Episode"

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PiTT:

radi0head: well in this how-to for ubuntu users, it says hotplug

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PiTT:

and i dont see a udev folder

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PiTT:

so confused!

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Paladine:

PiTT, it is /lib/firmware iirc

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radi0head:

PiTT; Sorry I can't help you, I never used ubuntu, try #ubuntu

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PiTT:

Paladine: thanks

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Paladine:

might be /usr/lib/firmware

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Paladine:

it isone of the two

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radi0head:

PiTT; Check /etc/hotplug/fireware.agent to see if it's /usr/lib/firmware, or /lib/firware.

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PiTT:

neither

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hads:

Has anyone got any idead on the best way to debug hard lockups which seem to be caused by mythfrontend. There is nothing interesting in syslog/messages or the myth logs (frontend and backend).

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PiTT:

agent?

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Paladine:

/lib/firmware/2.6.15-26–386/v4l-cx2341x-dec.fw

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PiTT:

ah there we go

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hads:

PiTT: It's /lib/firmware on edgy if that helps

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PiTT:

thanks paladine

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radi0head:

/etc/hotplug/fireware.agent Check inside the file for the line: # directory of the firmware files

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radi0head:

FIRMWARE_DIR=/lib/firmware

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Paladine:

so /lib/firmware/`uname -r`/

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PiTT:

actually

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radi0head:

PiTT; You'll know exactly if it points to /usr/lib/firmware, or /usr/firmware.

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PiTT:

mine created a folder called 2.6.15-26–386

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radi0head:

I mean /lib/firmware

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PiTT:

so my linux headers and uname

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Paladine:

PiTT /lib/firmware/`uname -r`/

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Paladine:

as I just said

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radi0head:

PiTT; HAve you checked inside the file like I told you?

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Paladine:

I just setup my 150 the other day

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Paladine:

and that is where the firmware goes

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hads:

I just chucked the firmware in /lib/firmware and it got picked up.

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PiTT:

radi0head: yes

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PiTT:

damn ccomputer is over heating

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PiTT:

need to turn off

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PiTT:

ill be back

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radi0head:

radi0head; Where does it point to?

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PiTT:

thanks guys

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radi0head:

Paladine; Are you vids ntsc? run idvid -fast foo.mpg on one of them and tell me the fps

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Paladine:

they are PAL

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radi0head:

k

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Paladine:

PAL, 720x536 mpeg2

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Paladine:

fully dvd compliant

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radi0head:

Paladine; IN the menu, there will be a title, which one do you want? "New Yankee Workshop" ?

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radi0head:

Or select an episode

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Paladine:

Select an Episode

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Paladine:

"New Yankee Workshop" for the Disk Label

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radi0head:

Which font?

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Paladine:

don't really mind

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Paladine:

this will just be a test build

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radi0head:

convert -list type

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Paladine:

I will fine tune it once I am morefamiliar

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radi0head:

type this and select a font

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radi0head:

OKay i'll choose Arial

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Paladine:

I don't have ariel

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Paladine:

Times-Roman will do

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Paladine:

bitrate is 5149 I think

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radi0head:

You can put a background image and a background audio

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Paladine:

there abouts

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Paladine:

yeah not too bothered about that

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Paladine:

it isjust for simple archiving purposes not for giving out to anyone

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Paladine:

I have a couple of thousand blank dvds

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Paladine:

so I may as well save my hd space

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Paladine:

and I am building the disks in /data/dvdbuild

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Paladine:

as opposed to /tmp

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radi0head:

i'm doing in cli

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radi0head:

so no need for that

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Paladine:

k

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radi0head:

I made you a little script

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radi0head:

http://pastebin.ca/178129

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radi0head:

take this and save it as foo.sh, chmod +x it and run it.

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radi0head:

http://tovid.sourceforge.net/manpages/todisc.html manual of todisc

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radi0head:

hey wanna continu this in #tovid?

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radi0head:

s/continu/continue

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bRuZdEGO:

have anyone been able to make there remote turn on there mythtv computer?

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|Torg|:

yes I use a wireless keyboard

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PiTT:

welp

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PiTT:

anyway

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bRuZdEGO:

yeah, thats great. :) I want a "remote", like an IR remote

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PiTT:

paladin still here?

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bRuZdEGO:

to turn it on. :)

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bRuZdEGO:

just wondering if it's possible

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radi0head:

PiTT; ?

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radi0head:

PiTT; What is the problem?

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|Torg|:

nope, not without some hardware modifications

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PiTT:

radi0head: is it ok that the folder is called 2.6.16-26–386

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PiTT:

or does it need to be -26–386

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radi0head:

PiTT; What folder?

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PiTT:

firmware folder

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PiTT:

here im using this how to

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radi0head:

Depends on what it points to in /etc/hotplug/firmware.agent

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PiTT:

http://hyams.webhop.net/mythtv/myth_ubuntu.html

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PiTT:

how do i run that agent?

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radi0head:

PiTT; Open it wit ha text editor and check.

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PiTT:

no such file

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radi0head:

uh?

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PiTT:

heh

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PiTT:

no such file in, no such folder

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Fnc:

anyone knows whats ujp with this? warning – symbol rate setting (0) is out of range (min/max: 5056941/10762000)

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Fnc:

???

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radi0head:

PiTT; YOu don't have /etc/hotplug? impossible

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PiTT:

i swear to you dude

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PiTT:

heh

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PiTT:

im even doing a search for firmware.agent right now

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PiTT:

nothing coming up

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radi0head:

PiTT; Hmm, just go on then.

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PiTT:

go on doing what? =)

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PiTT:

dude im a newb

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PiTT:

i dont wanna fuck this up heh

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PiTT:

been working on it for 2 days now

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radi0head:

<PiTT> radi0head: is it ok that the folder is called 2.6.16-26–386

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radi0head:

<PiTT> or does it need to be -26–386

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PiTT:

ah ok

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Fnc:

warning – symbol rate setting (0) is out of range (min/max: 5056941/10762000)

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PiTT:

well well

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PiTT:

er

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PiTT:

the tutorial wants me to do this

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PiTT:

cp HcwMakoA.ROM /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/v4l-cx25840.fw

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PiTT:

cp HcwFalcn.rom /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw

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PiTT:

what should i do?

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radi0head:

Copy them to /lib/firmware/2.6.15-26–386/

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PiTT:

the .fw?

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PiTT:

or the rom's?

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Fnc:

no onw?

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Fnc:

no onw?

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Fnc:

damm no one?!

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radi0head:

PiTT; If you look closely, those 2 commands are renaming the .rom to .fw and moving them.

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PiTT:

ah

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PiTT:

i see

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Fnc:

dvb#0 warning – symbol rate setting (0) is out of range (min/max: 5056941/10762000)

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PiTT:

that is so odd

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PiTT:

radi0head: im trying to a copy a file over

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PiTT:

but it says no such file

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PiTT:

but i see the file right there

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radi0head:

uh

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PiTT:

im bout to throw this computer out the window

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PiTT:

=)

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radi0head:

LOL

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radi0head:

The thing is, it looks like your howto is old

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PiTT:

is there a better how to for ubuntu users?

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radi0head:

Maybe you should refer to the howto at ivtv?

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Fnc:

anyone usin fc4? with HD OTA? if so what tuner you using?

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PiTT:

the how to is telling me the same thing

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PiTT:

it says there is a firmware folder in hotplug

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PiTT:

yet i dont see such a thign

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J-e-f-f-A:

Fnc: Yes – HD3000

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bRuZdEGO:

http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=1293 <---- looks like you can do it. :)

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radi0head:

PiTT; The firmware seems to be in /lib/firmware/`uname -r`/ for you.

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PiTT:

yea

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PiTT:

im bout to fucking shoot somebody

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PiTT:

i swear

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PiTT:

=)

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PiTT:

but its my fault

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PiTT:

i chose this path

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J-e-f-f-A:

PiTT: my wife!!! Please!!! (along the lines of "Take my Wife, Please" ;-)

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J-e-f-f-A:

Fnc: In case you didn't see it the first time — Yes, I use FC4 and I'm using a HD3000 for OTA HD

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bRuZdEGO:

http://www.digitalconnection.com/Products/Video/fusion5rt.asp you can do it. :)

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radi0head:

PiTT; I'm supposed to receive my Hauppauge PVR-150 tomorrow, I'll write a howto while doing it.

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radi0head:

PiTT; Half the fun is to try to make it work :D

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Fnc:

thanks jeffa

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Fnc:

this card.. or my install is wacked out

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Fnc:

so im going to try something new...

[01:05:15]

J-e-f-f-A:

Fnc: I had to jump through a couple of hoops to get it working...

[01:05:31]

Fnc:

was thinking about wither the new hdhomerun, or the cards they are putting in the dragon now days AirStar-HD5000AV-PCI

[01:06:16]

Fnc:

Ive had it working before.. i dont know what its deal is... im wondering if its over heating or something...? i can take the cable that feeds it plug it into my voom box.. and bam.. i got hidef working...

[01:06:21]

Fnc:

its really pissin me off

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Fnc:

and i cant ever seem to find something that works...with the errors im getting.. i dont know whats up with it

[01:07:17]

J-e-f-f-A:

I have to modprobe it after booting: /sbin/modprobe cx88-dvb

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J-e-f-f-A:

or it doesn't get loaded automagically.... I think I also have to do a chmod on it so that the 'mythtv' user can access it.

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Fnc:

mines a divico fusion 5 and it seems to work, and can even scan and lock channels... but i get that wierd error

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J-e-f-f-A:

(haven't booted in about a month... so I'm not that concerned about it)

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Fnc:

dvb#0 warning – symbol rate setting (0) is out of range (min/max: 5056941/10762000)

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J-e-f-f-A:

Fnc: Have you checked the mythtv mailing list archives?

[01:10:38]

Fnc:

ive played with this a lot before

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Fnc:

ive looked and looked everywhere i dont know if i found something once, but i cant now

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defaultro:

hey folks, i need your help

[01:18:17]

defaultro:

I was using root before. Now I switch to user mythtv. How do I restore all my settings?

[01:18:58]

defaultro:

I mean, how do I get all the settings such as themes, X, Y dimensions and so on?

[01:19:15]

robbins876:

i want a cheeseburger

[01:19:22]

defaultro:

I copied /root/.mythtv to /home/mythtv/ and nothing changed

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** radi0head hands over a cheeseburger to robbins876. **

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robbins876:

i wish there was a hardee's in town because a thickburger sounds like heaven

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Dagmar:

defaultro: Really? I would have thought that doing something that didn't make any sense at all would have had no effect.

[01:22:05]

defaultro:

yep, didn't work

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Dagmar:

Maybe if you read a unix primer.

[01:22:19]

defaultro:

huh

[01:22:30]

defaultro:

of course I used tar

[01:22:35]

Dagmar:

Maybe if you read a basic Unix tutorial

[01:22:37]

radi0head:

defaultro; lol, that's stupid.

[01:22:42]

defaultro:

fuck

[01:22:49]

defaultro:

what are you guys talking about

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Dagmar:

So that you might, oh, know what you're DOING with a unix machine

[01:22:52]

defaultro:

:)

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robbins876:

when i run yum update it keeps stalling on libmp4ff.so.0 is needed by package mythmusic

[01:23:00]

defaultro:

of course I know unix

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robbins876:

how do i run an update and exclude that?

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Dagmar:

LIke, if I show you two pictures, one of your ass on a monitor, and the other of a hole in the ground on a monitor, could you tell the difference?

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Dagmar:

I think the answer is no.

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defaultro:

hmmm

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Dagmar:

Bullshit.

[01:23:33]

defaultro:

i still don't get you guys

[01:23:34]

radi0head:

defaultro; no offense, but the perms are for root, unless you've done something like chown -r mythtv:users .mythtv

[01:23:39]

defaultro:

fuck

[01:23:43]

defaultro:

of course i chown it

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defaultro:

LOL

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Dagmar:

If you "knew unix" even on the level of a sophomore student you would not have asked that question.

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defaultro:

do you think i don't what am doing

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Dagmar:

YES>

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defaultro:

chown -R blah blash blah

[01:24:08]

defaultro:

what the hell

[01:24:14]

defaultro:

i'm not newbie in unix

[01:24:20]

Dagmar:

Yes, apparently you are.

[01:24:25]

defaultro:

oh baby

[01:24:31]

radi0head:

defaultro; You seem so.

[01:24:35]

radi0head:

defaultro; No offense.

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Dagmar:

"<defaultro> I copied /root/.mythtv to /home/mythtv/ and nothing changed" <-- *ahem*

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defaultro:

cmon, let's hack each other machine

[01:24:50]

defaultro:

lol

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defaultro:

that is it dagmar

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defaultro:

do i have to say literally

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Dagmar:

Yeah, usually you're required to be specific when you as technical question

[01:25:18]

defaultro:

tar zcvf myth.tar.gz .mythtv

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defaultro:

then mv myth.tar.gz /home/mythtv

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radi0head:

defaultro; You can be a unix newbie and hack someone's machine, using an exploit doesn't make you a non-unix-newqb.

[01:25:28]

Dagmar:

You don't get to just mumble "yeah, I put the thingie on the whatsis"

[01:25:32]

defaultro:

then tar zxvf myth.tar.gz

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Dagmar:

defaultro: So what?

[01:25:43]

defaultro:

then chown mythtv:mythtv -R .mythtv

[01:25:45]

defaultro:

lol

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robbins876:

Error: Missing Dependency: libmp4ff.so.0 is needed by package mythmusic

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Dagmar:

This is not kindergarten.

[01:25:49]

robbins876:

how do i fix that nonsense?

[01:25:49]

defaultro:

you are a kid

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Dagmar:

Effort doesn't count for shit.

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radi0head:

robbins876; Get libmp4ff, how easy is that?

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defaultro:

you are freakin moron

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Dagmar:

You can do a whole bunch of useless crap and the system is not going to care.

[01:26:13]

defaultro:

robbin, you are a baby

[01:26:15]

Dagmar:

You have to do the _correct_ thing only once and briefly.

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defaultro:

you can't fix that

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defaultro:

LOL

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radi0head:

defaultro; Get out #mythtv-users please.

[01:26:33]

defaultro:

lol

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robbins876:

radi0head> I did that, but it didn't seem to fix anything

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defaultro:

radio

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radi0head:

robbins876; Did you ran ldconfig?

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defaultro:

you just can't accept that i know uunix

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Dagmar:

defaultro: 1. cp -R would have done what you wanted instead of having to use tar.

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defaultro:

i wish xris was here

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Dagmar:

If you "knew unix" you would have known this.

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defaultro:

dagmar, that's why it's unix

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defaultro:

LOL

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kormoc:

guys, be nice...

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Dagmar:

Yes, xris would be laughing at you as well.

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defaultro:

you can do millions ways

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defaultro:

kormoc, hey buddy

[01:27:22]

defaultro:

kormoc, this guys are a kid

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Dagmar:

defaultro: So what part of "copied it to the wrong place" is eluding you?

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defaultro:

huh

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defaultro:

there was nothing wrong

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Dagmar:

Then it works and you don't have a problem.

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defaultro:

what was wrong was that, the theme diudn

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Dagmar:

Glad we could be of help.

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defaultro:

didn;t take effect

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defaultro:

that's why i was asking if it was the right approach

[01:28:11]

defaultro:

then you starting saying fuck

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Dagmar:

Of course it wasn't.

[01:28:14]

defaultro:

you dick defautor

[01:28:20]

defaultro:

you are drunk

[01:28:25]

Dagmar:

And you're an idiot.

[01:28:29]

Dagmar:

One of us could sober up

[01:28:29]

defaultro:

i came here in good

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defaultro:

and you are fucking idiot

[01:28:45]

defaultro:

you shouldn't belong here

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Dagmar:

Move to somewhere with an economy.

[01:28:52]

defaultro:

you are

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robbins876:

someone should boot this kid

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defaultro:

KIK

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kormoc:

guys... calm down

[01:29:05]

defaultro:

kormoc, who are this guys

[01:29:07]

defaultro:

are they new here

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radi0head:

Yeah kormoc please?

[01:29:17]

defaultro:

it's just now that i've seen this people

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defaultro:

where's beirdo

[01:29:27]

J-e-f-f-A:

lostsa swearing ... Not normal for this channel...

[01:29:29]

defaultro:

or greyfoxx

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kormoc:

defaultro, just cause you've been here awhile doesn't mean you're kick-proof :P

[01:29:38]

defaultro:

i am pissed off Jeffa

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Dagmar:

defaultro: I'm definitely not new, and if you were interested in listening instead of being a dick and defending your right to do the wrong thing with lots of effort, you might have gotten an answer from me.

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defaultro:

kormoc, it's ok if i get kicked off

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J-e-f-f-A:

defaultro: That's nice. Who's got the attitude?

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defaultro:

it's just that, i got offended

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defaultro:

people know who i am here

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defaultro:

i never say those words

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defaultro:

kormoc knows me a lot

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defaultro:

beirdo, xris, greyfoxx, they know me

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robbins876:

man, this damn thing is making me mad

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radi0head:

robbins876; ?

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robbins876:

i can't get passed the libmp4ff.so.0 is needed by package mythmusic thing

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defaultro:

robbing, RTFM the library

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radi0head:

robbins876; Do you have it installed...

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metalac:

hey guys

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J-e-f-f-A:

robbins876: Trying to install .20?

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radi0head:

defaultro; How nice of you.

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defaultro:

im pissed off

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defaultro:

my question was very proper

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defaultro:

you guys made fun of it

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J-e-f-f-A:

radi0head: Yeah, he's real polite. No wonder nobody wants to help.

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radi0head:

robbins876; You need faad2

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defaultro:

you said, i should read unix

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PiTT:

defaultro: im a newb dude, i get all my answers via google or forums

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metalac:

anybody knows why LiveTV would freeze everytime a show ends? it's really weird, but it's always right on the money :)

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kormoc:

defaultro, can you just calm down and let it go, it doesn't matter

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PiTT:

i try it for a few days

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robbins876:

yeah, i'm uninstalling now going to reinstall and see if it helps

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PiTT:

if cant do it anymore, then i ask questions

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defaultro:

kormoc, i'm good now

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defaultro:

:D

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radi0head:

robbins876; libmp4ff.so.0 comes with the faad2 pacakge.

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Dagmar:

metalac: Don't have a clue, but that is definitely highly unusual

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robbins876:

radi0head, yeah, i uninstalled faad2 and reinstalled it

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metalac:

Dagmar: tell me :)

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robbins876:

i think that's going to fix it

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robbins876:

i just updated my kernel, so we'll see

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defaultro:

robbin, maybe ldconfig it

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Dagmar:

metalac: I know this borders on voodoo, but I suspect myth might be doing the "classic" oops of allowing stuff that's already been installed to get involved when linking together the new build

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robbins876:

what is ldconfig?

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robbins876:

i ran that and it didn't do anything

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radi0head:

robbins876; Updating the libs.

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Dagmar:

metalac: you *might* need to either remove the old version before installing the new one, or (weird as this sounds) build the new one, install it, make disclean, and then build and install it again

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kormoc:

robbins876, sure it did, run ldconfig -v to see what it does

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defaultro:

verify ld.so.conf or whatever distro you have

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robbins876:

oh, i didnt let it run all the way, i guess... it just looked like it was frozen

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defaultro:

grep it when using -v

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Dagmar:

I'm using pretty anal-retentive scripts here to build with, and the first binary of 0.20 I did had an issue with not showing the picture (only sound) about half the time when I'd watch TV or a recording. The second binary package I built (where I just changed something really minor and unrelated) did *not* have this issue

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kormoc:

Dagmar, myth does install in a clean env, so that *shouldn't* be the cause. it'd be strange if it was

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Dagmar:

...and by "minor and unreleated" I mean I left out the changelog entry for the first build

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Dagmar:

kormoc: I'll have to go reading through the makefiles to be sure but it's the only thing I know to explain it

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robbins876:

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Dagmar:

I'm not saying it won't build in a clean env, I'm saying I think it might be getting the installed stuff in the search path

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robbins876:

radi0head, uninstalling and reinstalling seems to have fixed that problem

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kormoc:

ooh, right, didn't think about that case

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radi0head:

robbins876; Glad I could help.

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Dagmar:

It makes my eyes hurt just thinking about eyeballing build output quite that carefully. Heh

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kormoc:

Yeah, if you log it, you could just grep for the suspected directories (/usr/lib or what not) and that might be enough

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Dagmar:

The engine I use logs everything.

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Dagmar:

We're still talking about wrapped output in the 300-characters long range. :/

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kormoc:

Yeah, but only having a select few lines is a bit better :P

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** J-e-f-f-A The only engines I have are in my cars! ;-) **

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robbins876:

in myth, you know how you can make videos browsable or not browesable?

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sphing:

is mythtv.org down?

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J-e-f-f-A:

sphing: It might be — I can't get to it either...

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sphing:

ah

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robbins876:

i have several files that are split into two video segments

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J-e-f-f-A:

Bummer... I was going to see if the screen grabs had been updated for .20 yet...

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robbins876:

so it would be nice to have it show the first, not the second and automatically play the 2nd after the first

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robbins876:

i have it set up that way, but it's still showing both vids when i browse them

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bRuZdEGO:

is it just my box or is the wiki down?

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bRuZdEGO:

http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

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robbins876:

looks to be down

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J-e-f-f-A:

robbins876: I had the same issue on .19 — maybe it doesn't work properly?

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metalac:

looks down to me too

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bRuZdEGO:

taht sux. :(

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sphing:

hmm, then I'll ask.. how can I enable ALSA

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J-e-f-f-A:

bRuZdEGO: yeah, I can't hit it at all either.

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robbins876:

what distro?

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kormoc:

sphery, check the wiki :P

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sphing:

haha kormoc

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sphing:

i have it enabled in the kernel

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J-e-f-f-A:

rotfl! (Hey, is there a mirror for mythtv.org?)

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sphing:

what i need is to enable it in myth

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robbins876:

oh

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robbins876:

mine did it automatically

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sphing:

ah found it in the blurb on google

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J-e-f-f-A:

mythtv.org is back up!!!!!!!

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dfgh:

Any suggestions on a motherboard for an Intel Dual Core E6600? About 160 bucks. Need to upgrade my old myth box :)

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kormoc:

I'd recommend a intel branded mobo myself

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dfgh:

kormoc: I see

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robbins876:

i just updated my kernel and it updated a lot of myth stuff with it

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robbins876:

now my remoted doesn't work...any help?

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J-e-f-f-A:

robbins876: Perhaps you need to update lirc too?

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js0:

Anyone know where I can find what the new flags do in mythtv .20?

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robbins876:

root@localhost modules]# /usr/bin/irw

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robbins876:

connect: Connection refused

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robbins876:

how do i fix that?

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robbins876:

why is the connection refused?

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sigger:

robbins876: often permissions

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robbins876:

i'm running as root

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js0:

robbins876, check if /dev/lirc/0 exists

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robbins876:

how?

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J-e-f-f-A:

robbins876: ls /dev/lirc/0

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robbins876:

no such file or directory

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robbins876:

uh oh, what does that mean?

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robbins876:

i updated my kernel and it messed everything up, i guess

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sigger_:

can also be /dev/lirc or /dev/lirc0

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J-e-f-f-A:

robbins876: If it's not there, then you probably need to re-install LIRC for the new kernel.

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robbins876:

i just did

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robbins876:

but still no luck

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robbins876:

think it might be because the kernel is so new?

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js0:

yes, you need to re-install lirc

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defaultro:

robbin, if you are a tar.gz boy, read my HOWTO -> http://restricted.dyndns.org/twoinstancelirc.html

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robbins876:

i just did

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defaultro:

that might give you an idea

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sphing:

is anyone using firewire?

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defaultro:

that's all i can help

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monkeypet:

robbins876: I missed out on what the issue was, can you repeat?

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sphing:

the quality just isnt that great compared to tv coming in

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js0:

is the lirc module loaded?

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sphing:

I'm also getting alot of "audio waiting for space on soundcard"

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sigger_:

robbins876, I think for starters you ought to find your lirc device e..g /dev/lirc, but obviosuly not /dev/lirc/0

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defaultro:

Hey folks, am I correct that values in settings table are actually tied in to the hostname your mythtv is at? If so, I can just DELETE from settings where hostname='localhost' which is my old data

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Anduin:

defaultro: correct

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defaultro:

cool

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defaultro:

am backing up my data now

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defaultro:

then once deleted, I will UPDATE settings set hostname='localhost' where hostname='localhost.localdomain'

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defaultro:

then flush privileges it

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defaultro:

;)

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defaultro:

i'll let you know

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Anduin:

shouldn't need to flush privileges, that is to make MySQL re-read the user and DB access stuff.

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defaultro:

oh ok

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defaultro:

but it's done

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defaultro:

389 rows modified

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defaultro:

i'm restarting mythfrontend now, cross fingers, hope to see the old settings from root account

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defaultro:

coz i've moved from root to mythtv user

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defaultro:

autologin now works too

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defaultro:

:)

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defaultro:

had to troubleshoot freaking fluxbox too

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defaultro:

it was pain in the ass with FC3

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defaultro:

most especially i didn;t have fluxbox experience

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defaultro:

needed to hack .Xclients-defaults which worked

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defaultro:

:D

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ShockValue:

well !$)(&!#`.. i got my new frontend box.. and as it turns out, it only has USB ports.. no PS2.. so i have no place to plug in a keyboard

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ShockValue:

and of course, it won't even boot, since it says "press f1 to continue"

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Anduin:

legacy free

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defaultro:

Anduin, I got it working. I got root's settings exported to mythtv user, WOOHOOOO

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ShockValue:

yeah, which is ok... unless you dont have a usb keyboard :)

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Anduin:

defaultro: It wasn't related to the user really, the host name should be constant regardless of the user.

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defaultro:

oh

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defaultro:

but i got it working ;)

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defaultro:

using those sql statements i wrote earlier

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js0:

has anyone tried mythtv .20?

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Anduin:

js0: Many

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defaultro:

js0, i'mruning .20

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defaultro:

.20 on steriods

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js0:

Any of you running gentoo by any chance?

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defaultro:

brb, just want to see Hugh Hefner

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defaultro:

you know him Anduin? :P

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defaultro:

Girls Next Door

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js0:

there's this new USE flag in .20 that I'd like to know what it's for

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Anduin:

defaultro: Not personally

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defaultro:

hahaha

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defaultro:

:D

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seth|mythcenter:

I'll take a stab at a gentoo USE flag

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js0:

it's ivtv USE flag

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** defaultro will soon be using ivtv drivers for his vitek security camera **

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seth|mythcenter:

You want that, so that it brings down the ivtv drivers for your tuner cards

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js0:

what if I already have ivtv installed? would it make a difference wether I enable it or not?

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seth|mythcenter:

well, here is what I have seen. If you emerge the latest ivtv 0.7.0, there is a chance you will have to redo all of your tuner cards in mythtv-setup, however in a new install, it may jsut work.

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seth|mythcenter:

the safest bet, would be to not use it, if you have it installed and working already, myth .20 should work fine with what you have

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js0:

thank you :)

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seth|mythcenter:

np

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seth|mythcenter:

i beleive, when I was usinging gentoo as my backend, the only USE flag i added was transcode

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seth|mythcenter:

so you get your MTD built in for you

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js0:

I have alsa dvd lirc opengl xvmc, and nvidia for video card

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js0:

seems like they added mmx too

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seth|mythcenter:

so you are putting this in /etc/make.conf?

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js0:

in /etc/portage/package.use

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seth|mythcenter:

just for mythtv?

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js0:

yes

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seth|mythcenter:

good, I would add transcode

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seth|mythcenter:

do you have mysql instlled already?

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js0:

would it make a difference if I start the mtd daemon automatically at startup?

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seth|mythcenter:

I do

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js0:

I've had it up an running for a while now, so I'm hesitant to upgrade

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seth|mythcenter:

i am currently running knoppmyth r5c7 with .19 fixes, and I am also hesitant to upgrade

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Flimzy:

When I have a recording profile set to auto transcode, how does it determine which transcode profile to use?

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js0:

.19 here as well

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seth|mythcenter:

you can set that on a per card basis

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seth|mythcenter:

i have both my pvr150 and my dvb card set to low quality, then i just check automatically transcode in mythweb

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Flimzy:

I have multiple recording profiles per card, tho

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Flimzy:

High Quality, Med, Low, etc

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seth|mythcenter:

ah, I only use low quality

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Flimzy:

If I set Low Quality to auto transcode, how will it know which transcode profile to use?

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Flimzy:

Will it automatically use a transcode profile with the same name (if it exists)?

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Flimzy:

I'd like to transcode my low-quality programs automatically to save space, naturally.

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Flimzy:

But I'd like to make sure it's transcoding to a "low quality" transcode profile, too

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Flimzy:

not much point going from low-quality MPEG2 @ 1800kbps to High-quality MPEG4 at 3000kbps, or something

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seth|mythcenter:

I am not sure on that one, sorry

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Tall-guy:

monkeypet: *ping*

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Flimzy:

Then there's the further complication, that you probably don't know about...

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Flimzy:

That I have no control over the quality of video from firewire input

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defaultro:

HD playback question folks, is there any setting in myth that we can modify where it will allow delay the playing of the recorded show for like 5 secs so that it can buffer more data? The reason I ask this is because, sometimes, when I play HD, it jerks. I pause it to fix it

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robbins876:

god damn IRW still says connection refused.

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Flimzy:

so there are no recording profiles there.. but I would like to transcode some firewire-recorded programs to low-quality

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Flimzy:

Is there any way to do that? hehe

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Flimzy:

defaultro: You want it to pause for 5 seconds automatically, you mean?

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defaultro:

nope

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defaultro:

here

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robbins876:

i uninstalled in reinstalled lirc. any other ideas why IRW is saying connection refused?

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defaultro:

we select a recorded HD

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defaultro:

then mythfrontend shows it on our screen

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js0:

robbins876, is the lirc module loaded?

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robbins876:

how do i tell?

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defaultro:

sometimes, when I load a recorded HD, the playback is jerky

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defaultro:

so, what I want is for mythfrontend to pull more data before it plays it

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js0:

lsmod

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defaultro:

to prevent that jerky behaviour

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Flimzy:

defaultro: So you want it to pause automatically at the start of playback?

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Flimzy:

like I just said :P

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defaultro:

nope

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defaultro:

i don't want to pause

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defaultro:

just pull more data

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defaultro:

pause is just my way to fix the jerky

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defaultro:

i don't know why that jerkey behavior happens though

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defaultro:

but when I pause it for like 2 seconds and play it again, playback is smooth

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defaultro:

i was thinking that it didnt have enough data to play

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js0:

robbins876, it's not loaded

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robbins876:

how do i fix that?

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Flimzy:

defaultro: I don't see an option like that.

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defaultro:

ok

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monkeypet:

Tall-guy: Hey, you done?

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Flimzy:

defaultro: I've noticed that for me, HD audio is out of sync for about 5–10 seconds at the beginning of playback. Probably the exact same problem you're experiencingg.

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defaultro:

no issues with audio though

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Flimzy:

defaultro: Just a slightly different manifestation.

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defaultro:

mine is on video

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Flimzy:

Yeah, they're both buffering issues.

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Flimzy:

Probably a difference in our MPEG streams

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defaultro:

i've experience it in all versions

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Flimzy:

You may be using a PS and me a TS, or vice versa

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Flimzy:

so slightly different result

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defaultro:

I think TS

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quad-damage:

has anyone ever used an xbox as a frontend?

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Flimzy:

but same underlying problem

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defaultro:

because I remember, the file became larger

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js0:

robbins876, modprobe lirc_i2c

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defaultro:

i'll play with the Playback settings

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Flimzy:

ouch. The low quality settings I have for audio are annoying. gotta increase the audio bitrate back to 384

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js0:

robbins876, I think you need to configure your kernel and re-compile

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robbins876:

hmm... that's not something i know how to do

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bRuZdEGO:

um, guys... lirc config.. I can not get the remote to work whne I am viewing video through mplayer (eg: watching dvd rips throught mythvideo/dvd plugins)

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defaultro:

DAMN, StandardXVMC rocks!!!!!!!!

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defaultro:

didn't experience any jerkiness

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ShockValue:

bRuZdEGO: got mplayer commands in your lircd?

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Flimzy:

I think I shall reduce the video bitrate, and increase the audio bitrate for my "low quality" profile.

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defaultro:

wow, playing HD is 24%

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defaultro:

now, 21%

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defaultro:

this is awesome!

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Flimzy:

defaultro: Cool. I haven't tried that yet. I should do that :)

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defaultro:

19.6%

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defaultro:

my card is nvidia

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defaultro:

are you nvidia?

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Flimzy:

yes

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defaultro:

try it now

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Flimzy:

I think I need a different version of mythtv first

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defaultro:

i noticed though that it is gray

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Flimzy:

I don't believe this package was built with XvMC support

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defaultro:

am on .20

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defaultro:

ah

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Flimzy:

I'm on .20 too

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Flimzy:

but without XvMC support :)

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defaultro:

i always use tar.gz

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defaultro:

:D

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Flimzy:

I don't.

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defaultro:

ok

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Flimzy:

I don't believe in wasting time :)

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Flimzy:

I build a lot of packages

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Flimzy:

but using debian source packages

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defaultro:

ok

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defaultro:

i'm not use to packages

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defaultro:

i always use tar.gz

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Flimzy:

they're great

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defaultro:

it's fine though

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Flimzy:

you'll never go back

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defaultro:

rpm -ivh

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Flimzy:

tgz is messy

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js0:

robbins876, can you pastebin modprobe -l ?

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defaultro:

mars tool

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robbins876:

sure

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defaultro:

sarge

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defaultro:

i've used them

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defaultro:

it's hard especially, i admin solaris, freebsd, linux, openbsd

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defaultro:

:D

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defaultro:

but yes, packages are great

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Flimzy:

I wouldn't even consider admining without Debbian

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defaultro:

you can uninstall them cleanly

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Flimzy:

I run Debian even on my sun machine

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defaultro:

i did but it was unstable

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Flimzy:

Hmm

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defaultro:

i have at home a sparc1

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Flimzy:

you smoking crack?

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Flimzy:

I have an old sparcstation at home, too

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defaultro:

cool

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defaultro:

ah

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defaultro:

mine was 64bit degian

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Flimzy:

I use Debian on my sparc, i386, amd64, powerpc, m68k

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defaultro:

debian

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defaultro:

it is cool

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defaultro:

what i'd like to try out next time is netbsd

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defaultro:

but also, I would like to implement GRID computing

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defaultro:

but don't know where to start

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Flimzy:

I don't see the point in trying random OSes for no reason

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Flimzy:

especially when they're all pretty much the same these days

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defaultro:

hobby

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Flimzy:

FreeBSD, Linux, NetBSD, etc...

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defaultro:

sometimes, I install them

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Flimzy:

pick one you like, stay with it.

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defaultro:

depends on the requirement :)

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defaultro:

for firewalls, I just used openbsd and CARP

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defaultro:

it is awesome

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Flimzy:

There aren't many projects that would require one, but not work on the other

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Flimzy:

For a firewall, any of those are equally capable.

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Flimzy:

That's an incredibly simple task

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defaultro:

i built 2 redundant firewalls, I connected a TS session, I pulled the primary firewall, TS session was not affected

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defaultro:

i don't think they're equal

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Flimzy:

TS?

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defaultro:

i have use VRRP in freebsd and it's not as great as CARP

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Flimzy:

terminal service?

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defaultro:

yes

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defaultro:

:D

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Flimzy:

I could set that up easily in Linux.

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defaultro:

cool

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defaultro:

ipchains

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Flimzy:

thus equal

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defaultro:

what's the new one

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Flimzy:

for that task

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Flimzy:

iptables

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Flimzy:

not exactly new

[03:23:07]

Flimzy:

it's been around for years

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defaultro:

yeah about 3 yeras ago

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defaultro:

new name i mean

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Flimzy:

Well, I guess if Windows 2000 is new :P

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defaultro:

:D

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bRuZdEGO:

ShockValue, yes!

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defaultro:

but yeah, try rebuilding it now, and use XVMC

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Flimzy:

I will, but not tonite

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defaultro:

i'm going to play a little more

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Flimzy:

gonna go to bed soon

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defaultro:

cool

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defaultro:

im going back to my lawn project

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defaultro:

and weekend, I will be playing with my new toy, ELK

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defaultro:

i can't wait to install that device in the house

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defaultro:

www.elkproducts.com

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Flimzy:

Yeah, iptables came out in kernel 2.4, IIRC

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Flimzy:

which came out in Jan 2001

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defaultro:

yep

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Flimzy:

I wouldn't call that new

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Flimzy:

:P

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defaultro:

really old

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defaultro:

:D

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defaultro:

i started with ip masquerading

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defaultro:

that's how i learned linux back in slackware kernel 1.13

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Flimzy:

You can still do that with iptables

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defaultro:

yes

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Flimzy:

You mean ipfwadm?

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defaultro:

yes

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defaultro:

:D

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kormoc:

and ip tables is a 'port' from the bsd ip tables, and that's been around sense 97ish iirc

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defaultro:

i'm forgeting those tools

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Flimzy:

Ip Masquerading is just one thing that ipfwadm/ipchains/iptables can do

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defaultro:

ip accounting

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defaultro:

and so on

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hjohnson:

well, I just bought a PVR-500

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defaultro:

man, i'm having fun talking to you

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Flimzy:

ipfwadm = IP FireWall ADMinistration

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hjohnson:

it's purty

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defaultro:

it brings back my linux days

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Flimzy:

I like ipchains

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kormoc:

cause it's not linux these days anymore? :P

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Flimzy:

it's the easiest of the 3 to use

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Flimzy:

hehe

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defaultro:

-j is kinda weird though

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kormoc:

I like iptables via shorewall :P

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Flimzy:

kormoc: Because he uses *BSD now

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kormoc:

ahh

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Flimzy:

I ran my ISP using ipchains mostly

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defaultro:

i still use linux for mythtv

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defaultro:

:)

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defaultro:

ah, maybe i can ask about DNS delegation

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defaultro:

tinydns

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hjohnson:

I use it as my primary server.. runs about 4 websites..

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Flimzy:

heh

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Flimzy:

your ISP has to do that

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defaultro:

we own 1 class C

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bRuZdEGO:

um, guys... lirc config.. I can not get the remote to work whne I am viewing video through mplayer (eg: watching dvd rips throught mythvideo/dvd plugins), I have mplayer commands in ~/.mplayer/lircrc but still nothing. it seems to me that lirc is detecting the "mplayer" frame or something.

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defaultro:

we are authoritative

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defaultro:

however

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Flimzy:

Cool... then your ISP should have delegated reverse DNS to you

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defaultro:

we sold half of it

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bRuZdEGO:

do I have to add something do the mplayer start up command or soemthing?

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Flimzy:

Okay

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defaultro:

yes, you are correct

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Flimzy:

so you get to set up 128 CNAMEs

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Flimzy:

that's fun :)

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defaultro:

yes

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kormoc:

bRuZdEGO, mplayer uses ~/.lircrc I beleive

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hjohnson:

defaultro: but is it portable?

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bRuZdEGO:

yea, i've symlinked it

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defaultro:

so for the new company, do we also have to delegate the reverse ptrs?

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kormoc:

of course

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defaultro:

johnson, portable?

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hjohnson:

portable Class Cs are priceless these days

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Flimzy:

Delegate only the reverse pointers

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defaultro:

ok

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Anduin:

bRuZdEGO: and you have items in there with mplayer as the program?

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Flimzy:

The forward they handle

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defaultro:

k

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hjohnson:

defaultro: ie you can pick it up and move to another ISP, and advertise the Class C into the public internet.

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Flimzy:

that's between them and their registrar

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bRuZdEGO:

yeah, Anduin

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hjohnson:

defaultro: if you don't know it's portable, it's probably not

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bRuZdEGO:

I might seperate the two programs maybe

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bRuZdEGO:

isnted of symlinking

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bRuZdEGO:

err, two files

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defaultro:

hjohnson, good question. I might have to verify it. There is no worry right now of porting it

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Anduin:

bRuZdEGO: and you have mplayer with lirc support?

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kormoc:

defaultro, if you have to verify it, it's not portable :P

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bRuZdEGO:

aahhhhh, I dunno.

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defaultro:

ok

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defaultro:

:D

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bRuZdEGO:

is it on by default?

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bRuZdEGO:

i'll check that out too. :)

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bRuZdEGO:

thanks

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hjohnson:

I forget what the going price is for a portable class C, but it's up there...

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kormoc:

defaultro, it's such a huge deal these days that it's absolutely a very well known feature set :P

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hjohnson:

they're ideal for companies wanting to run websites with multiple redundant internet links

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defaultro:

ok

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defaultro:

that's cool

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defaultro:

i should start reading up again

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defaultro:

freaking MSSQL, I got tied to it for more than 2 years now

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Flimzy:

MSSQL? WTF?

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kormoc:

MicroSoft SQL

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kormoc:

?

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defaultro:

yep

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defaultro:

then right now, they're wanting me to also support Oracle

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defaultro:

which is good though

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kormoc:

just remember to charge them oracle admin wages!

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defaultro:

makes me more secure in the job

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defaultro:

nah, it's ok

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defaultro:

plus I also manage Nagios

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defaultro:

:D

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defaultro:

back in 1993–1999, i was up all the time in computer/internet doing experiments, but now, I'm more into home improvement/diy/home theater :(

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defaultro:

do you guys use IIS and SQL?

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kormoc:

I use apache and mysql/postgresql

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defaultro:

ok

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defaultro:

coz I have one project to implement, i just couldn't figure out how TRUSTED_CONNECTION in ASP and IIS works, with SQL

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defaultro:

no worries

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** hjohnson eats home-made burritos **

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kormoc:

trusted connection?

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defaultro:

yeah

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sphing:

does anyone have a philips flat screen?

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kormoc:

as in ssl?

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defaultro:

meaning, your account that you used to login to XP, will be used in the browser and to the SQL

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defaultro:

not as SSL

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defaultro:

SSL is just a wrapper

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kormoc:

ahh, that sort of thing...

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defaultro:

anyways, burrito

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defaultro:

we have chipotle in front of our office

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kormoc:

well, can't you just intercept the login info in ASP and then use that in the script?

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defaultro:

we are not allowed to hard code the username in script

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kormoc:

no, not at all

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kormoc:

check out

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defaultro:

oh ok

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kormoc:

Request.ServerVeriables (AUTH_PASSWORD) and AUTH_USER

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defaultro:

maybe, that connection string i was talking about, TRUSTED_CONNECTION=YES

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defaultro:

oh ok

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defaultro:

or since we are in proxy, I think a variable gets used too

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kormoc:

when the ASP gets the windows login (however you send it, I'm assuming via standard http auth), you can use it as a var

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defaultro:

what if I sniff it, can I see it?

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kormoc:

depends on how windows sends it

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defaultro:

ok

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defaultro:

maybe, it's hashed

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kormoc:

I am not a windows user or admin, I'm just going on things I remember :P

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defaultro:

cool

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defaultro:

you are a LAMP

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defaultro:

I've been a LAMP

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sphing:

defaultro: i'm not understanding the problem?

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defaultro:

sphing, huh?

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defaultro:

what are you asking/

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defaultro:

?

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sphing:

what is you project?

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defaultro:

oh

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defaultro:

we were just talking about stuff earlier, then I just mentioned about TRUSTED_CONNECTION in ASP

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defaultro:

which is authenticated user

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defaultro:

so it's an AD account being used, and passthrough to MSSQL

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defaultro:

btw, I recorded TRAIN in Soundstage. Is the vocalist gay?

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sphing:

AD account?

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defaultro:

active directory

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sphing:

ah

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sphing:

and your project is to break that?

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defaultro:

no, to provide a solution and shy away from ODBC using SQL auth

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defaultro:

don't worry about it

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... forgotten...

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Flimzy:

I love having a dual-core amd64 for when it comes to transcoding stuff!

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defaultro:

does it fly?

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Flimzy:

It lets me easily transocde two programs at once, while still watching TV

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sphing:

audio waiting for space on soundcard:

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sphing:

ALOT

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defaultro:

would I see dramatic improvement if I install 64bit fedora?

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sphing:

anyone else have this?

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Flimzy:

defaultro: Over 32bit? Probably not.

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kormoc:

depends on what you're doing

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defaultro:

yep, im at 32bit os now

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Flimzy:

defaultro: The dual-core is the main advantage.

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Flimzy:

You may see some improvement with 64-bit

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defaultro:

my cpu is athlon 64

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defaultro:

oh ok

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Flimzy:

whether it's worth the hassle or not... hard to say

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defaultro:

i deleted it because it was time consuming

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Flimzy:

you'd have to test it both ways to find out

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kormoc:

you'd see a huge improvement with transcoding

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defaultro:

ok

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kormoc:

but say, browsing, none at all

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defaultro:

yeah, it was time consuming for me before trying to figure out how I will make compiling of 32bit successful on the 64 bit os

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defaultro:

i gave up on it. i couldn't find help :D

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Flimzy:

Now I've got the recording profiles on my low-priority shows (MASH, Star Trek, anything else that's in reruns) to auto transcode to lowest quality

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Flimzy:

so my HD should fill up much more slowly now

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kormoc:

defaultro, that's simple, depending on how the layout is

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defaultro:

hey folks, go to continue reading the documents I printed out this morning. http://www.irrigationtutorials.com hehehe

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defaultro:

ok kormoc

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defaultro:

brb

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kormoc:

defaultro, usually it's just say add -m32 to compile 32 bit libs and to link against 32 bit libs, passing in -l /usr/lib32 or similar to ldd

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defaultro:

im very hungry too

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defaultro:

ah

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defaultro:

i didn't know it that time

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defaultro:

2 yrs ago

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defaultro:

kormoc, I got to go, thanks for calming me down earlier :P

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kormoc:

it's all documented, when the first 64 bit procs came out back in the early 90s, they standardized it a bit

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kormoc:

you're welcome, enjoy your food

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defaultro:

brb

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defaultro:

:D

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Flimzy:

Hmm... 321mb w/ MPEG4 for a 30 min program

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Flimzy:

that seems pretty bad

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Flimzy:

I should be able to get 1+ hours of "DVD quality" video in that space

[03:52:41]

Flimzy:

but this looks like crap

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kormoc:

gotta play with the flags

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Flimzy:

And commercial flagging isn't working. grr

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kormoc:

and remember, the quality in determins the quality out

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Flimzy:

The quality in w/ ~3000kbit MPEG2 looked a heck of a lot better than 1000kbit MPEG4

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Flimzy:

which is to be expected

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Flimzy:

I'm just surprised at how much space it still takes up

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Flimzy:

Hrm... it would help if I got it to skip commercials during transcode

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kormoc:

gotta import in the commflags to a cut list

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Flimzy:

there's not an automatic option for that?

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kormoc:

I have a user job that does it automatically if you would like it

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kormoc:

but other then that, nope

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Flimzy:

Can you email it to me?

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kormoc:

it's a one liner

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Flimzy:

okay

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Flimzy:

paste it to me then if you don't mind. I'd appreciate it :)

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kormoc:

yeah, finding it in the db, one minute

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Flimzy:

np

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kormoc:

/usr/bin/mythcommflag -s %STARTTIME% -c %CHANID% --gencutlist

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kormoc:

I just set user job #1 to that, and have it run on all recordings automatically, and it imports it right in

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Flimzy:

Then you don't use the automatic commercial flagging job?

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kormoc:

sure do

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Flimzy:

I'm confused then

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** Pryon notes that ProjectX seems to do a better job of synchronizing audio/video than does avidemux **

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kormoc:

that just takes the commercial flagging job's flags and makes a cut list out of them

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Flimzy:

Oh

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kormoc:

it's the same thing as when watching a recording, typing e-z-e

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Flimzy:

and dumps them in a place that's automagically used by the transcode job?

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kormoc:

that can be, aye

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Flimzy:

How do you specify the transcode job to do that?

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kormoc:

setting that part up, I'm not entirely sure how to do, but it can be done that way

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sphing:

Ringbuf...Taking too long to be allowed to read..

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sphing:

hmm?

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Flimzy:

I see

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Flimzy:

well thanks

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Flimzy:

I'll play with it :)

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Flimzy:

I'm sure I can google an answer if nothing else

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kormoc:

sphing, sounds like the file isn't getting written right or something

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Flimzy:

Do you ever have problems with myth flagging comercials where there aren't any?

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kormoc:

aye, once in awhile

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Flimzy:

I had that happen when I was using 0.18 a bit... But haven't tried it since then.

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Flimzy:

that bites.

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sphing:

kormoc: its just at the beginning... it works perfectly after 1.5 secs or so

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Flimzy:

I hate to have all that automatic then

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kormoc:

you can edit the commflags in the recording if you'd like

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kormoc:

xris edits them by hand before exporting, I don't export so I don't mind it screwing up every once in awhile

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kormoc:

sphing, well, it might just be taking that long to start up the capture?

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sphing:

err no,apparently its every couple of secs

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Flimzy:

I'll probalby not use that feature... I'll probably just have it flag commercials for me and auto-skip

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Flimzy:

Then if I ever feel the urge to export HD episodes of The Office or something... then I'll manually edit the commflags

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Flimzy:

99% of what I record I won't export, tho

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kormoc:

for me, the auto-skip doesn't work unless it's in the cutlist, hence why I have it auto import for me

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Flimzy:

I see

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Flimzy:

But then your transcode job ignores the cutlist

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Flimzy:

right?

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kormoc:

I don't ever transcode, so I donno :P

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Flimzy:

ah

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Flimzy:

hehe

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Flimzy:

Why not, may I ask

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Flimzy:

?

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kormoc:

Sure, you may ask

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Flimzy:

Take note... here's me asking: Why not?

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Flimzy:

:P

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kormoc:

I have a 160 gb drive, so I can hold a ton of shows

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Flimzy:

heh

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Flimzy:

I have a 250gb drive

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Flimzy:

and will probably get a couple new ones soon

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kormoc:

and I don't mind just rerecording if I want to watch it again, so I don't ever burn to a dvd/cd

[04:05:50]

sphing:

i used to lvm to 160's and i ran out of space frequently

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Flimzy:

sphing: yes, me too. I think I had roughly 300gb

[04:06:14]

Flimzy:

and ran out all the time

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kormoc:

I have it autoexpire, so if I don't watch something, it will just wipe it sooner or later

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Flimzy:

altho that was with RTJPEG

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sphing:

so I upgraded and never plan to run out again :)

[04:06:33]

Flimzy:

kormoc: I never had shows long enough for them to auto-expire

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Flimzy:

I figure I may as well transcode "low quality" stuff to MPEG4, since I don't care about the lossiness.

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sphing:

I like keeping some of my shows, so i never used auto-expire

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Flimzy:

I like keeping some, too. So I set those shows not to expire :)

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Flimzy:

Shows I always want to follow, I never let expire... I delete them manually.

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Flimzy:

But shows like the news... I have them expire after 2 days. If I haven't watched yesterday's news yet, I'm not going to, may as well expire.

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sphing:

hmm thats a good point

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kormoc:

yeah

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kormoc:

I have like 5 days worth of tv

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Flimzy:

Then some of the "I'll watch it if I'm bored" shows, I set to just keep 3 episodes, then stop recording

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Flimzy:

shows like X-Files, MASH, and Star Trek

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Flimzy:

and set them also to expire, in the event the HD does get full, and something important comes on

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sphing:

Flimzy: how are you getting hd?

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Flimzy:

Firewire

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Flimzy:

from a DCT6200 box

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sphing:

oo perfect

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sphing:

me too

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sphing:

is the quality not as good over fw?

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Flimzy:

The quality is 100%

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sphing:

not forme

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Flimzy:

it's just a raw dump of the MPEG stream from your cable company.

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sphing:

for me the qualisnt as good

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Flimzy:

Are you watching a HD channel?

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sphing:

*quality

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sphing:

no sd

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Flimzy:

You'll get compression artifacts that way, then.

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sphing:

yea..i think thats it

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Flimzy:

That are not noticable on an analog channel

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sphing:

what do you mean?

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sphing:

and the refresh lines are noticable

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Flimzy:

Analog channels aren't compressed

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Flimzy:

thus you get "full" quality

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Flimzy:

Oh, you need to deinterlace

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sphing:

hmm...in the setup?

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Flimzy:

yeah

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Flimzy:

in mythfrontend

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Flimzy:

Setup -> General -> Playback

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Flimzy:

or something like that

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Flimzy:

(not in front of it now to check)

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sphing:

found it

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sphing:

what are the different algorithms/

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Flimzy:

You need to turn deinterlacing on, then select the method--you may want to try different methods to see what works best for you.

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Flimzy:

kernel is probably best if it works wel

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Flimzy:

l

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Flimzy:

and your hardware supports it

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sphing:

slight prebuffer pause now

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sphing:

on kernel

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Flimzy:

that's probably not a bad thing

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Flimzy:

will probably exist on any deinterlacing algorythm

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sphing:

and the video jitters

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sphing:

once every 10 secs or so

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Flimzy:

hmm

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Flimzy:

that's not good :)

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sphing:

model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+

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sphing:

its plenty fast

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sphing:

32 bits though

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WAR_CH|LD:

Anduin, you there mate?

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Anduin:

WAR_CH|LD: maybe

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Flimzy:

32 vs. 64 bit probably wont' really effect that

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sphing:

Flimzy: and thelines arent crisp

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WAR_CH|LD:

ah, nice.. you where right.

[04:15:48]

WAR_CH|LD:

I need --enable-lirc for my mplayer configuration. :)

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** Anduin doesn't remember about what **

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Anduin:

ah

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WAR_CH|LD:

all works, your a dead set legend

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WAR_CH|LD:

oh, i'm bruzdego

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WAR_CH|LD:

:)

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Flimzy:

sphing: Did deinterlacing get rid of the lines you were talking about? or not?

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sphing:

yea

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WAR_CH|LD:

jsut thanking you for your wisdom. :)

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sphing:

thanks... althought im moving away from kernel to see if that fixes the jitter

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Flimzy:

sphing: Try a different algorythm.

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sphing:

Flimzy: i dont suppose you have a philips flat screen

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simcop2387:

am i the only one of us not impressed by this? http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS4532837874.html

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Flimzy:

sphing: No. I hve an Olevia 42" LCD, tho

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sphing:

yea i'm playing with the algs now

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robbins876:

hey, when i try to watch tv it says that all the inputs are currently being used

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robbins876:

how do i stop the current recording?

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Flimzy:

robbins876: Go to Media Library, then delete the current recording

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Flimzy:

or select the current recording, and tell it to stop recording

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Flimzy:

if you want to keep what's been recorded thus far

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sphing:

anyone have recommendations for nfs flags for the frontend?

[04:19:55]

robbins876:

there's nothing in my media library. i updated my kernel today and everything is fucked up

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robbins876:

sorry, messed up

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sphing:

i doubt the kernel would mess with that

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sphing:

but thats purely speculation

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Flimzy:

yeah, kernel shouldn't effect that

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Flimzy:

unless you forgot to include support for the FS myth uses

[04:21:40]

Flimzy:

and it's different than the FS used by the rest of your system

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robbins876:

what is FS?

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sphing:

file system

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robbins876:

i don't think it's different

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Flimzy:

if it was, it would have been intentional on your part, and you would probably realize it

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kormoc:

you sure you don't have a filter on the recorded programs?

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Flimzy:

so you're probably right... they're probably not different

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simcop2387:

robbins876: do you have live tv recordings shown? i've had the frontend crash before when in live tv (kernel ran out of memory and decided to get rid of something....) and the backend just kept on happily going on

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Flimzy:

and thus the kernel is probably not related to your problem :)

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hads:

Has anyone got any ideas on the best way to debug hard lockups which seem to be caused by mythfrontend. There is nothing interesting in syslog/messages or the myth logs (frontend and backend).

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Flimzy:

hads: First thing I would check is CPU temperature... make sure it's not overheating.

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robbins876:

simcop> how do i check that

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robbins876:

?

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Flimzy:

hads: I've had 2 boxes have problems with Myth (or anything else very CPU intensive), especially when the ambient temp is hi

[04:25:26]

simcop2387:

robbins876: theres an option in the tv settings setup (in the frontend) that turns it on i don't remember where

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kormoc:

hads, you might want to enable the magic sysreq key and get a kernel dump from that, but that's beyond a little techie

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kormoc:

simcop2387, you could ls /path/to/your/recordings and see if they exist

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simcop2387:

kormoc: that works too

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hads:

I don't believe it's hot (lm_sensors is being a pain to get going), it's happy compiling for an half an hour at 100% CPU and mythfrontend only uses 20% CPU.

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sphing:

hads, you could have syslogd dump to another machine

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simcop2387:

kormoc: though much harder than enabling an option in the front end (having to remember what channel you might have been on, check the date, time, etc)

[04:26:55]

kormoc:

sphing, if it's a true hardlock, syslogd won't write anything no matter where it's sending it

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hads:

kormoc: I have read about enabling sysreq somewhere before. I'll go out looking.

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sphing:

yes, but you could see some the last things its doing

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hads:

sphing: I watch the syslog etc from another box over ssh so I see the last logs anyway.

[04:28:36]

hads:

It's only recently become a myth box, it was my desktop prior to that and didn't have any overheating or lockup problems.

[04:28:38]

sphing:

ah

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Flimzy:

hads: Yes, but things have changed... 1) what the system is doing (Myth runs it a lot harder than most desktops--even gaming desktops, usually get run)

[04:29:23]

robbins876:

man, it can't find my pvr card

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Flimzy:

2) It's probably in a different physical location, with different ambient temperature, different ventalation, etc

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Flimzy:

It may well not be overheating... But that's always a good thing to check

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hads:

Also, I've tried running mythfrontend on my new desktop and can make that lockup too. The only thing that is obviously similar is they both run nvidia cards.

[04:30:00]

kormoc:

Flimzy, he did say he compiles on it, which is a bit more then myth does :P

[04:30:05]

robbins876:

this kernel update screwed up everything

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Flimzy:

It's rare that _anything_ in software can cause a hard lockup in Linux with release kernel

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kormoc:

robbins876, really, that's very very unlikely to be the real cause...

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Flimzy:

kormoc: Not necissarily

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kormoc:

hads, are you using the opengl painter?

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robbins876:

i dont' know how else you'd explain it

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hads:

kormoc: Yes.

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sphing:

robbins876: rollback and see if that fixes (hoping theresno permanent damage)

[04:30:42]

kormoc:

robbins876, did you see if the files still exist?

[04:30:43]

robbins876:

i mean, everything was working fine, i update my kernel then nothing works

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kormoc:

hads, try turning that off

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Flimzy:

robbins876: I don't know how you'd explain it either. But just because your car was stolen the same day you got fired doesn't mean your boss stole your car.

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kormoc:

hads, some other people have been having issues with the opengl painter and nvidia cards

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hads:

kormoc: Will do. It does tend to happen when I do something i.e change channels etc. Watching livetv for hours on end seems to be fine.

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kormoc:

robbins876, the kernel is a very simple peice of code that doesn't touch myth, nor recordings, it seems very strange to be such a focused issue if it truely is kernel related.

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kormoc:

robbins876, I'd be more likely to say that if it's kernel related, you shouldn't have a running computer at all if it lost all that data

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Flimzy:

kormoc: I wouldn't say the kernel is _simple_

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sphing:

Flimzy: i still the refresh rate line

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sphing:

turns out it didnt fix it.. just much fainter now

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kormoc:

Flimzy, in what it touches in filesystems, it is :P

[04:33:31]

Flimzy:

sphing: Hmm. It's not the scrolling bar that goes up or down the screen, is it?

[04:33:46]

nandy_:

okay

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nandy_:

looks like only opengl (not qt) has my menu clearing problem

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Flimzy:

kormoc: Okay, I'll grant you that... well, probably. He could be running LVM on top of software RAID... :P

[04:34:13]

kormoc:

hehe, true enough :P

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nandy_:

must be a bug in the gl rendering stuff

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Flimzy:

Or worse... RAID on top of LVM!!!

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sphing:

Flimzy: it starts about halfway then goes upward

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kormoc:

nandy_, svn.mythtv.org, and look at the tickets, if it's not reported yet, you might want to add a new one

[04:35:22]

kormoc:

Flimzy, EVMS on LVM on software raid!

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Flimzy:

sphing: That's usually the result of RF interference--probalby at the time of the recording. Try moving power cables 'n stuff around. If your electric cables are running too close to, or at the wrong angle in relation to, your coax or antenna, it can cause that

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hads:

Right, switched to the QT painter, I'll see how it goes. Thanks for the suggestions chaps.

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Flimzy:

kormoc: Over a network block device!

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hjohnson:

hey, anyone know where I can find the firmware for the pvr-150/500 cards?

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kormoc:

hehe

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kormoc:

hjohnson, ivtv's website has a link

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Anduin:

hjohnson: ivtvdriver.org

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sphing:

I'm not using the native resolution of my tv, could that be it?

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hjohnson:

I've got the stuff in my server now, it's relatively happy

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hjohnson:

I just need to run some 75Ohm to it

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kormoc:

sphing, it won't help... :P

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Flimzy:

The internal transcoder isn't automatically multi-thread capable, is it?

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hjohnson:

Flimzy: probably not

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Flimzy:

Figures

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kormoc:

maybe 2 threads, 1 audio and 1 video, but I doubt it

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nandy_:

kormoc: Ticket #1858 (closed defect: worksforme)

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robbins876:

alright, i've got video and TV working again, but i'm not getting any sound in TV, any ideas?

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Flimzy:

I'll just keep running two instances :)

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sphing:

kormoc: i know i hate it

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kormoc:

nandy_, your ticket or someone elses?

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sphing:

its just the stupid tv coders

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Flimzy:

sphing: Not using the native resolution of your TV may result in distortion, but not like that.

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sphing:

nobody ever buy a philips flat panel unless your willing put HOURS of work into it

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sphing:

the TV lies about its resolution

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Flimzy:

sphing: My video hardware doesn't quite output to my native resolution, either... it's off by 2 horizontal pixels, which means that everything is dithered toward the outside edges. It's only noticable on a repetative background (like the default X Windows checkerboard)

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nandy_:

kormoc: someone else

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Flimzy:

sphing: You can usually ignore EDID information and force whatever resolution you want (within the confines of your video card's capabilities)

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kormoc:

nandy_, you might want to update it with your info too, it might help tracking it down

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sphing:

Flimzy: i cant figure out the native resolution

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sphing:

the website, the manual and EDID all have different values

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sphing:

and i've tried them all, and cant get them to work

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Flimzy:

sphing: Probably 1366x768. That's typical. (that's mine)

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Flimzy:

If that's the case, you'll probably have to settle for 1368x768 if you use nvidia

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sphing:

which i go

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sphing:

*do

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sphing:

can i steal your modeline

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sphing:

Flimzy: does your dct6200 jump nodes?

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nandy_:

kk

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Flimzy:

sphing: Seems like it did at one point...

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Flimzy:

I've only been using it about 2 days like this, tho

[04:42:52]

sphing:

haha me too

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Flimzy:

let me send you my xorg.conf

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sphing:

got it working yesterday

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sphing:

bless you

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Flimzy:

I just msg'ed a URL to you

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Flimzy:

hope that helps

[04:44:15]

Flimzy:

The one time I'm sure it jumped nodes, I had been unplugging and replugging the firewire port

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Flimzy:

So far, after a reboot of the DCT6200 and the Myth box, it hasn't done it again

[04:44:34]

Flimzy:

only time will tell if that's going to be reliable, tho

[04:44:52]

Flimzy:

Who's your cable company, sphing?

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sphing:

comcast

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Flimzy:

cool

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Flimzy:

well I'm gonna head to bed

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sphing:

EST?

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Flimzy:

gotta get to work tomorrow and train all the new hires at Cox :)

[04:45:59]

Flimzy:

EST?

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sphing:

timezone

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Flimzy:

me? central

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sphing:

ahh you work at cox?

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Flimzy:

Yup

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Flimzy:

in the training department at the call center in Wichita, KS

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sphing:

well they dont have cox out here in seattle

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Flimzy:

yeah

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Flimzy:

they do in san diego!

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Flimzy:

I think that's the only west coast location they have

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sphing:

they had it back at school in gainesville, fl

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sphing:

well thanks for your help

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Flimzy:

yeah... they have a lot on the east coast

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Flimzy:

and a fair amount in the central states, where I am! :)

[04:47:19]

Flimzy:

yup... good luck... and good night!

[04:47:24]

Flimzy:

(sounds like a movie I saw once)

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sphing:

yea

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sphing:

good night and goodluck

[04:47:36]

sphing:

is the name

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Flimzy:

yes, I know

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Flimzy:

hehe

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sphing:

haha

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Flimzy:

decent film

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sphing:

:)

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sphing:

FLIMZY

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sphing:

IT WORKS

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sphing:

its 2 pixels offon the side!!

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sphing:

BUT IT WORKS!

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Flimzy:

cool

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Flimzy:

glad to hear it

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Flimzy:

okay... going to bed now :)

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Flimzy:

nite

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nandy_:

kormoc: how well will this work with the RCA out of my cable box? what functionality will i lose?

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kormoc:

nandy_, can't do the ondemand stuff, and that's bout it

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nandy_:

kormoc: channel guide etc still work?

[04:55:30]

nandy_:

since im using the output of the cable box wont i get duplicate channel info bars?

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kormoc:

why would you

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kormoc:

?

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nandy_:

1 from myth tv 1 from the cable box

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kormoc:

well, yeah, if the tv signal has one

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nandy_:

well my cable box does

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nandy_:

if i use the rca outputs

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kormoc:

welp, you're stuck with it likely

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nandy_:

will mythtv be able to control the channels?

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kormoc:

via a ir blaster, sure

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hads:

Hmm, I updated my SVN checkout and recompiled this afternoon and now I can crash consistantly. I might switch to the .20-fixes branch.

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nandy_:

i guess thats what the irc repeater is for

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nandy_:

kormoc: my cable box does have 1394 out — how much do i lose if i use those?

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nandy_:

oh and how do i set my tuner to rca input instead of cable

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kormoc:

well, if it's enabled, you don't need the ir blaster, nor do you need a tv card, you can capture direct digital from the box

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kormoc:

it's the perfered way if it works

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nandy_:

kormoc: is there a howto on doing it?

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kormoc:

in the myth wiki

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nandy_:

k

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nandy_:

let me go find a firewire cable

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hjohnson:

ok..

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hjohnson:

I've got ivtv built and loaded. :)

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CCFL_Man_:

anyone here cross compile alsa?

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Ediehow:

hi

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alieas:

anyone using component out HD1080i? I'd like to try it out to compare against my DVI. Monitor goes into 1080i but x-windows only takes up 1024x768 (can only get it to take up validated modes...)

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Ediehow:

anyone using mythtv w/satellite?

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hjohnson:

aww crap..

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hjohnson:

the F connector on the tv card interferes with the case edge..

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hjohnson:

bbl

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alieas:

HD720p doesn't even display at all... thats crazy I can never get 1080i with DVI (no matter what!), but its the reverse thru the component cable... shit is just weird man

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nandy_:

kormoc: where do i select firewire as my input?

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word:

QServerSocket: failed to bind or listen to the socket2006-09–20 22:36:10.088 Failed to bind port 6543. Exiting <- i know it's probably a stupidity caused error..or i hope it is o.O anyone know? it's causing mythbackends on my slaves to not start.

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Anduin:

word: backend already running?

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word:

on the master yes

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Anduin:

No on that machine

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kormoc:

nandy_, mythtv-setup likely

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kormoc:

word, netstat -l | grep 6543

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kormoc:

it should show if something is using that port already or not

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nandy_:

kormoc: yah i set up like 3 sources but i dont where where to cycle which one to use

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word:

tcp 0 0 *:6543 *:* LISTEN

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kormoc:

nandy_, check the keys.txt file, it should list it in there

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Anduin:

word: throw a p in there and see that mythbackend is already running

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nandy_:

kormoc: is there a way to pre-test firewire connectivity?

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kormoc:

sure, it's all covered in the wiki

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word:

Anduin: the process sticks around so i kill it and start up the backend again the error persists

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nandy_:

the wiki i found must be the wrong one

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kormoc:

nandy_, wiki.mythtv.org

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Anduin:

word: kill it, confirm with netstat, then start it

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coder:

I'm using wintv-pvr150. Only two channels actually show anything and they have NO color. help! =)

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kormoc:

tighten the cable line into the card?

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word:

Anduin: i never checked the log after doing it that way..no error in the log yet there's an error from the command line? not much sense there :-/

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coder:

cable checks out ok

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Anduin:

coder: which two channels?

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coder:

5/6

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hjohnson:

welp, got my ivtv card up and running.. but getting really crappy video

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coder:

ive been struggling with mine for a while now =(

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techNick:

hjohnson: how is the video crappy?

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nandy_:

kormoc: if support exsists for SA 4200HD and i have a SA 8300HD what are the cahnces firewire will work?

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kormoc:

donno

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nandy_:

im not getting anything out the firewire atm maybe its disabled :(

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nandy_:

i wish i had a scope here to see if there is anydata on the lines

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nandy_:

:(

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hjohnson:

techNick: staticky, bad colour..

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hjohnson:

it could easily be a bad video cable

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techNick:

probably be a good idea to check that before screwing with anything else.

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hjohnson:

except that I don't have a known good cable to my living room

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techNick:

can you hook a tv up to it straight?

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coder:

why would I only find a decent signal on 2 channels?

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coder:

using ivtv

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coder:

wintv-pvr150

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Tall-guy:

coder: set to wrong type of cable TV?

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coder:

set to us-cable

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word:

or wherever you're getting your listings from isn't correct?

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word:

might be using the wrong frequencies

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word:

not sure how common that might be i'm kinda new :-/

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coder:

not even using myth yet... just ivtv-tune to change channels and mplayer to watch

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word:

hm :-/

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Tall-guy:

coder: dumb question....does thhe pvr150 have two connections for coax??? (one is for fm radio on my 350)

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coder:

one i think

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word:

yeh

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Tall-guy:

coder: was just thinking if you plugged your coax into the wrong one, maybe you're just getting 2 signals from strong local stations via "the air", and not getting any signal on cable cause its in the wrong port....but I'm wrong I guess.

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monkeypet:

Tall-guy: Depends on what type... several 150 models.

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Tall-guy:

well there ya go....I MIGHT have been right :)

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Juski:

mornin

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monkeypet:

Tall-guy: Check the table on the hauppage page.

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coder:

ironically both the channels i "get" are local

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Tall-guy:

coder: just a coinkydink?

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coder:

probably not judging the quality of the video im getting on them as well

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Tall-guy:

:)

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Tall-guy:

check yer coax?

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coder:

i did

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coder:

three times now

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Tall-guy:

hmmm.....

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Tall-guy:

if u disconnect the coax....do u get nada?

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coder:

lemme see

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coder:

yes

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Tall-guy:

yes = no signal right? :)

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coder:

correct.

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Tall-guy:

wrong frequency map?

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coder:

hmm..

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hads:

Well that will teach me for upgrading the OS, I can consistantly make the frontend crash when going LiveTV -> Guide -> LiveTV :(

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hjohnson:

grr.. why is the video quality so bad..

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Tall-guy:

hads: yeah, I should have left my system alone last nite too :)

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coder:

Tall-guy: how can i check that?

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hjohnson:

the trouble is figuring out where the bad part is..

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hjohnson:

since it's done into my server in the basement

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hads:

Actually, not crash – system lockup

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Tall-guy:

coder: well, I'm a bit rusty on ivtv-tune, but I'd do a ivtv-tune -l and ivtv-tune -L to start.

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Tall-guy:

hads: hauppauge?

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hads:

Yeah 150

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Tall-guy:

hads: what version of ivtv u running?

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hads:

.70

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Tall-guy:

damn... (thats where I am gonna end up!)

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hads:

I don't know if it's related to ivtv at all yet. I think it's something to do with the frontend.

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Tall-guy:

hads: can u ssh/telnet into the box when its locked up?

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Tall-guy:

mine was doing that....I had frontend <defunct> and X using 100% resources....

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hads:

Nope, it responds to pings but nothing else.

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coder:

how i change default frequency map?

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Tall-guy:

coder: no clue...(Sorry)....

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monkeypet:

hads: Lockups suck to debug, best to see what was the last thing in /var/log/messages before the reboot.

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Tall-guy:

hads: what distro/kernel?

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hads:

monkeypet: I'm watching messages and syslog from a remote box and there's nothing in there. Also been back in and checked after a reset.

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hads:

Tall-guy: Ubuntu edgy (so it's really my own fault for using a moving target) :)

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hads:

It's handy though as I already have all the packages proxied locally :)

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coder:

anyone else know? cuz i figured out which one it needs to be apparently

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monkeypet:

hads: What was the last thing you did to bring on thelockups?

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Tall-guy:

coder....http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Ivtv-tune

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hjohnson:

I need to come up with a way to make sure my wintv card is working properly.. right now the video quality is too crappy

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Juski:

what 'wintv' card?

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hjohnson:

pvr-500

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Tall-guy:

:)

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hjohnson:

it really is probably a bogus cable.. but I don't really have a good way to test it right now..

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hjohnson:

I've got one GNDN coax..

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Juski:

say pvr-500 instead of 'wintv'.. 'wintv' covers all sorts of things from shitty software encoding cards all the way up...

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hjohnson:

Juski: yeah I know

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hjohnson:

I'm thinking of hauling my VCR down there to give it a whirl..

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hjohnson:

feed video from the VCR over coax just to see if that's the issue.. that would eliminate the card.

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hjohnson:

(I'm seeing snow on the screen)

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Juski:

you might have a model fitted with samsung tuners.. try a newer version of ivtv

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hjohnson:

yeah, it's go tsamsung tuners..

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hjohnson:

so it says in the dmesg...

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hjohnson:

and I'm running the latest drivers

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Juski:

latest being?

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hjohnson:

0.7.?

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hjohnson:

the ones that were released july of this year

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Juski:

nothing in the changelog about samsung in 0.7.x

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Juski:

http://dl.ivtvdriver.org/ivtv/stable/ChangeLog-0.7

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Tall-guy:

hjohnson: is it inbound snow or outbound snow?? (tuner or output?)

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hjohnson:

Tall-guy: tuner.. it's not got outbound

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Juski:

but 'samsung' is mentioned in the 0.4.x and 0.6.x changelogs

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Juski:

so it seems you'd be using a version of ivtv without the samsung tuner fixes

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Juski:

note I said _seems_

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Juski:

this might help: //www.mail-archive.com/ivtv-users@ivtvdriver.org/msg03909.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.mail-archive.com/ivtv-users@ivtvdr . . . sg03909.html

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Dagmar:

I was under the impression the issue with the Samsung tuners was well sorted before 0.7.0

[07:08:21]

Dagmar:

Maybe there's yet another Samsung variant out there.

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Juski:

yeh well for all the reports of it being 'well sorted' there are still plenty people having issues

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Juski:

and yeah there are two samsung variants

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coder:

i wish i knew what modprobe option to use for ivtv freqtable

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hads:

monkeypet: Sorry, I was away cooking tea. If I go into LiveTV then hit S for guide, then escape back out of the guide it will lockup every time.

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hjohnson:

ah hah, that is the problem I'm having

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hjohnson:

channel 1 works fine, channel 0 looks like low signal

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hjohnson:

ok.. this is interesting..

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hjohnson:

chanel 2 is slightly over-saturated, chanel 1 looks like rabbit ears in the boondocks

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hjohnson:

anyhow, bedtime

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simcop2387:

is it possible to add a recurring override? e.g. don't record this show at this time every night or something

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Anduin:

coder: it isn't a modprobe thing, ivtv-tule -L, the -t to override, or you could actually install myth and pick from a nice dropdown

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Juski:

ugh now I have to evaluate some deathstar hdds :-|

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radi0head:

Do you guys know "if or where" I could buy this board (only the board) http://www.lixsystems.net/lix/product_files/L . . . BB-A8NVN.htm

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Juski:

just google for a board with those specs

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Juski:

not a bad looking package though

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Juski:

apart from the usual front mounted audio sockets (WHY?!)

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Keeper:

hi

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Keeper:

I am having a small problem with mythgame and was wonering if anyone could shed a light on it...

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Keeper:

I set up a directory with scripts of all the linux games I would liek to run and a directory with screenshots of those games

[09:02:05]

Keeper:

Both I defined in the gameplayer settings menu but none of the games get a preview/screenshot

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Keeper:

The names of the pictures are exactly the same as those of the scripts (caps and all), the only thing that I think might be wrong is that I used large pictures, is there a limit on picture size?

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robert83a1:

hello, using latest mythtv, I just inserted used tv-card for testing only , lspci shows Multimedia controller : Philips Semiconductors SAA7133 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev d0) , now how do I tell if it's ivtv , bttv based?

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robert83a1:

video4linux , got it...

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johnnyss:

hi

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johnnyss:

Where is the config file for mythtvfrontend?

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johnnyss:

in the ~/somwhere?

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Dagmar:

Nope

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Dagmar:

As close as it gets is ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt, which ONLY contains what's needed to connect to the database

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Dagmar:

Frontend settings are stored in the database.

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johnnyss:

ok thanks.

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Keeper:

You can change menu's around by modifying xml files (by me) in /usr/share/mythtv

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Keeper:

(I run 0.19 as provided by marillat)

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johnnyss:

Well mythfrontend hangs at startup.

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johnnyss:

I need to change bak to QT instead of 3D..

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Keeper:

you mean switch from using compiz to kwin/metacity?

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Keeper:

what version of mythtv

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Keeper:

?

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Dagmar:

I think he's talking about the paint engine

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Dagmar:

...not the window manager

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Keeper:

o ok

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Keeper:

I was thinking that maybe it was just like trying to run blender3d when running compiz... (by me a crash)

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robert83a1:

great, I got it, so I do a modprobe saa7134 , and then I select the tuner card in mythtv setup that is all, do I perhas need to do something else? just asking in case someone already did this , and if there are things that I should be carefull about

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Keeper:

has anyone ever succeeded in setting screenshots for their games?

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johnnyss:

yes it is the paint engine

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robert83a1:

Keeper : I did

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johnnyss:

Dose someone know where in mysql the settings for the paint engine is?

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robert83a1:

Keeper : you MUST make sure that gamename.rom and gamename.jpg have the same name before .

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johnnyss:

I need to alter that..

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robert83a1:

Keeper : also you MUST set the directory for pictures

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Anduin:

johnnyss: settings ThemePainter

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johnnyss:

ok thanks.

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robert83a1:

I have a saa7134 card detected by FC5 , and then by MythTV as Analog V4L Capture Card, says all the necesary info, wondering if I get audio via antena cable here ? or I need to seperately connect audio cable ?

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Narkov:

is there a mythtv Linux desktop "client" or gui? Not the frontend...i mean normal desktop/KDE type application

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johnnyss:

Anduin, thanks found it ;)

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Anduin:

Narkov: No, you can run the frontend in a window though.

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Narkov:

Andruin: thats a bit overkill for my needs :( I was hoping for just some kind of list of recorded programs launching into mplayer or something

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Keeper:

I have just gamename and gamename.jpg

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Keeper:

(or gamename.png

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Anduin:

Narkov: mythrename.pl can create a directory of symlinks you can click on, there are some other apps that read the DB (mostly for Windows though)

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Narkov:

interesting...i'll follow it up

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Keeper:

the games are 'regular' games (neverball etc)

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Keeper:

I defioned both the rom and the pictures dir but I still don't get screenshots....

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Keeper:

is there a limit to the size (I think most images are 800x600 or even 1024x768

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Hoxzer:

:) 0.20 works much better than 0.19

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Hoxzer:

alot faster channel change and backend doesn't crash anymore

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Keeper:

:) it works now, I renamed all my scripts from gamename to gamename.sh and now it did detect the screenshots

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emja:

my IR remote stopped working yesterday. my guess is that a kernel update broke it because when restarting the lircd service I get "FATAL: Module lirc_gpio not found.". any advice?

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emja:

the only instance of lirc_gpio is in the modules directory for a different kernel than for the one currently active

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Paladine:

one home made IR transmitter made

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Paladine:

just hope my soldering skills hold up to the job hehe

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Greek-Boy:

is there a linux project for tv services in hotels

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Greek-Boy:

?

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Greek-Boy:

like pay-per-view type of stuff

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mah_meh:

not htat im aware of

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mah_meh:

not that*

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Dagmar:

emja: Imagine that.

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emja:

?

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Dagmar:

emja: you are aware that kernel modules must be built for the specific kernel they will be run with, right?

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emja:

vaguely

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Dagmar:

emja: You just need to recompile the lirc stuff and you'll be fine

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Dagmar:

emja: Did you use the setup.sh script that it comes with to make a configure.sh script?

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emja:

interesting, because I didn't compile the module for the first kernel

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emja:

uh oh

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Dagmar:

So where did you get it from?

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emja:

no

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mah_meh:

anyone running with a nova-t usb2 ?

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emja:

I don't remember

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emja:

it was months ago, originally

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Dagmar:

emja: Well, it don't come with the kernel

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emja:

ok

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Dagmar:

emja: Not to worry, rebuilding it is actually really easy

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emja:

so lirc comes with setup.sh?

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Dagmar:

You just have to know a few specific things first.

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Dagmar:

Well, the source does

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emja:

ok

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Dagmar:

What the setup.sh script is, is a dialog-driven script that lets you dictate the basics, and then it will generate a configure.sh script that you run so you don't have to remember whatever to run ./configure yourself.

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Dagmar:

You were using lirc_gpio you say?

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emja:

I don't know if I was using it, but it was referred to in the error

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Dagmar:

Grab the latest lirc source, untar it, and then run setup.sh

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emja:

and by the way, there is no setup.sh

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emja:

oh, ok

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Dagmar:

Do NOT tell it to run the script it makes for you just yet tho

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emja:

why not the rpm for my distro?

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Dagmar:

emja: Is there an RPM that matches your kernel?

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Dagmar:

...and yes, there *is* a setup.sh in the lirc-0.8.0 source

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emja:

This is interesting; lirc-kmdl-2.6.17–1.2145_FC5–0.8.1-cvs20060628_60.rhfc5.at

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emja:

that rpm is installed, but doesn't match the kernel

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Dagmar:

If you can find an RPM that matches the kernel, I'd just install that as the wasy way

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emja:

yep, that's what I'm working towards now

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emja:

I'm searching via yum for the correct kmdl rpm

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emja:

Dagmar: many thanks (again)

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Dagmar:

no problem

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robert83a1:

hello, how do I delete videos with mythtv from the hard drive ?

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Juski:

videos? or recordings?

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robert83a1:

imported dvd's to be exact

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robert83a1:

it's under watch videos

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robert83a1:

menu

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Juski:

to delete a video press D in the video manager

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robert83a1:

oh!

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robert83a1:

thank you

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Juski:

that's in the FM

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robert83a1:

hmmm, nothing happens

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robert83a1:

I'm in media library -> watch videos

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robert83a1:

and there I see 3 movies, I wish to delete one of them

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robert83a1:

sorry, I was in wrong place

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robert83a1:

I guess I cannot read :)

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Spida:

does anybody know something about 2.6.18 and ivtv?

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Dibblah:

2.6.18 is a kernel version – freshly baked. Arrr. ivtv is a driver for a video capture / mpeg2 encoder card.

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Krazylegz:

.20 no longer hard masked w00t.

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Dibblah:

;)

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quicksilver:

I prefer my w00t to be hard masked

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Krazylegz:

It's a comfort thing.

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Juski:

bah. bye bye gentoo in about 48 hours :)

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Krazylegz:

Juski: Eh?

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Krazylegz:

I think I'm going to drop Comcast's cable for DirectTV. Have to figure out how much a second receiver would cost though.

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Juski:

upgrading to 0.20 this weekend & I'm moving to ubuntu

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Juski:

not that I have any allegiance to ubuntu either ;-)

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Krazylegz:

What are you on now?

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GreyFoxx:

EVery couple years I go on around of "try every distro" but invariably I come back "home" :)

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Krazylegz:

I tried that not too long ago, but I installed Ubuntu and was insulted.

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gardengnome:

re

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GreyFoxx:

I usually go through 3 or so distros over a month or so, but it never lasts

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Krazylegz:

Now I just use that time to update myself on the distro I actually use. :-)

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defaultro:

morning folks

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Dibblah:

There's always LFS.

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Krazylegz:

Heh. No.

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defaultro:

anyone experience this. I tried StandardXVMC last night and it was awesome, low cpu usage. However, I saw tearing near top of screen or slow refresh when there are very fast scenes. Any clues? Now it's back to Standard.

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Dibblah:

What sync method?

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GreyFoxx:

I did LFS once, it was interesting if only to see how everything tied together. We wrote our own build system and init to go with it.

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defaultro:

mmm, first time i've noticed this mythtv, recorder offline,what is this?

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Juski:

Krazylegz: currently on Gentoo & minimyth. staying with minimyth. personally I don't want to learn stuff I don't need to know just to use mythtv

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Juski:

that said I'm not 100% happy about the amount of mollycoddling ubuntu does either

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Krazylegz:

Hmm, Minimyth?

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Krazylegz:

Ah.

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** Krazylegz hugs Google, feels blood running down his back **

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defaultro:

why is it saying that my backend recorder is offline?

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defaultro:

mythbackend is running

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Dibblah:

defaultro: DVB / analog?

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Dibblah:

Recorder'll show as offline if it can't tune to the default channel / open the device, etc

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defaultro:

or permssions

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defaultro:

because i switch from root to mythtv last night

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Dibblah:

:)

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defaultro:

that's the only thing i did last night

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defaultro:

could i be correct?

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Dibblah:

Possibly.

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defaultro:

oh ok

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psofa:

anyone here tried ivtv on 2.6.18?

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defaultro:

now, which devices are they then :)

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defaultro:

in /dev/dvb/...........

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defaultro:

yep, i saw it

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defaultro:

but dunno know if chowning is the best way

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defaultro:

there is a file in /etc that we can change but i forgot, something like udev

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defaultro:

i found it, but only for v4l devices

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defaultro:

what could it be for /dev/dvb/adapterN/*

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Krazylegz:

psofa: Looks like Spida asked as well?

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psofa:

im getting kobject_add failed for i2c-3 with -EEXIST, don't try to register things with the same name in the same directory.

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psofa:

i have video and no sound

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psofa:

0.6.2 worked fine on 2.16

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psofa:

*2.6.16

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defaultro:

what if i chown this,/etc/udev/devices/dvb, will it get copied? I don't think so due to the permssions file

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robert83a1:

hello, me again, I'm running mythtv latest Atrpms on Fedora Core 5, and I crashes sometimes, right now it was glibc detected mythfrontend corrupted doubl-linked list

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robert83a1:

I did something wrong, or due to the nature of the wide variety of linux distros and 0.x version this is "normal" ?

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defaultro:

:D http://www.users.on.net/~jani/dvico-mythtv-5.html

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robert83a1:

should I post a question about this on mythtv channel, with the pasted error code? or this is not a valid option because I'm using atrpms latest 0.20 rpm package?

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defaultro:

i was right with chowning it :D

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seth|laptop:

question, what would cause mythweb, not to function anymore?

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defaultro:

chowning didn't work, recorder still offline, and devices are still owned by root

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Dibblah:

defaultro: Yup. udev'll do that 'for' you.

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defaultro:

might be in the rules

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defaultro:

i added this and rebooting now, GROUP="mythtv", MODE="0666" OWNER="mythtv"

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defaultro:

we'll see, if it doesn't work, I'll work on it tonight

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defaultro:

btw, .20 is awesome, DTS passthrough works

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defaultro:

and the dvd player menus is cool

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defaultro:

sweet, the GROUP="mythtv", MODE="0666" OWNER="mythtv" worked

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defaultro:

trying now

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defaultro:

hmmm, it's now owned by mythtv and it still says, recorder off-line

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defaultro:

any more ideas?

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defaultro:

nothing in gossamer too

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Dibblah:

Anything in the logs?

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seth|laptop:

my mythweb is displaying a blank page, any ideas as to where to start looking?

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defaultro:

i should be fine now

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defaultro:

i went in mythtv-setup and there were no capture cards, huh

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defaultro:

then i went to capturecard table & found out it was pointing to a different host

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defaultro:

i'm going to try again

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defaultro:

:)

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defaultro:

BAM! It's working now. Go to go to the office now ;D

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defaultro:

l8r

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Zider:

leightr

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sphing:

GreyFoxx: you around?

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GreyFoxx:

sphing: Yup

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Juski:

hometime!

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stuarta:

already?

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seth|laptop:

does anyone here use mythweb

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stuarta:

a few :)

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GreyFoxx:

I go almost all of my scheduling in mythweb

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stuarta:

same

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seth|laptop:

well today mine is delivering a blank page. No 404 errors, just asks for authentication, and then nothing

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seth|laptop:

as did I until today

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seth|laptop:

actually it was last night, but I tried again from here today, and nothing

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** seth|laptop missed recording bones, and justice :-( **

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seth|laptop:

is there a way to get everything back to default

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seth|laptop:

fresh start as it would be

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seth|laptop:

or maybe a backendprocess that needs restarting

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stuarta:

more likely somethings died..

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seth|laptop:

apache works fine, I can get right to my webmin

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stuarta:

do you access it over https?

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GreyFoxx:

so are you loading the root page ?

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seth|laptop:

yes, what used to be the welcome page, now its blank

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GreyFoxx:

cause that page doesn't require database access or access to the backend I believe

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stuarta:

no, but it still checks....

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seth|laptop:

yes I tried to get to it on the slave backend, but there is no mysql running there, so it gave me a database error

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GreyFoxx:

He should get an error in that case. Check your apache accesskigs

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GreyFoxx:

seth|laptop: That's cause if mysql is on another machine you have to tell it where to find it. It looks at localhost by default

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seth|laptop:

I'm not sure what I could have changed, I restarted apache, webmin, and the backend, but still nothing

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GreyFoxx:

Check your apache access logs, see what error/success code it's coming back with

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seth|laptop:

what should I check from apache?

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seth|laptop:

ok

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GreyFoxx:

and for sh*ts n giggles. Have you tried from another PC or another browser ? :)

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seth|laptop:

here is something – error: /usr/lib/php4/20020429/mysql.so: undefined symbol: php_sprintf

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GreyFoxx:

You "upgrade" something ?:)

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seth|laptop:

no

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kieran491:

hi

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seth|laptop:

wait, the last time I used it, I installed the Myxer web theme configurator, it may have happened then

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seth|laptop:

that may ahve changed something

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kieran491:

when trying to scan for chanels with mytrhtv i keep geting theses errors in my dmesg

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kieran491:

bttv0: IRQ lockup, cleared int mask [bits: FMTCHG* VSYNC* HSYNC* OFLOW* HLOCK* VPRES* 6* 7* I2CDONE* GPINT* 10* RISCI* FBUS* FTRGT* FDSR* PPERR* RIPERR* PABORT* OCERR* SCERR*] bttv0: SCERROCERR @ ffffffff,bits: FMTCHG* VSYNC* HSYNC* OFLOW* HLOCK* VPRES* 6* 7* I2CDONE* GPINT* 10* RISCI* FBUS* FTRGT* FDSR* PPERR* RIPERR* PABORT* OCERR* SCERR*

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stuarta:

that's not particularly nice.

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seth|laptop:

heres a new error – /usr/sbin/apache: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/php4/20020429/mysql.so: undefined symbol: php_sprintf

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seth|laptop:

[Thu Sep 21 10:56:49 2006] [notice] SIGHUP received. Attempting to restart

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oskar:

Hi. I am experiencing sporadic frame inversion when displaying video with nvidia 6200 interlaced output. Anyone know what may be the cause?

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kieran491:

when modprobeing my tv card i get this out of the dmesg what have i dont wrong? http://rafb.net/paste/results/aArevB79.html and how do i fix it?

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hjohnson:

hmm..

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kieran491:

?

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Juski:

stuarta: 3.30pm ish hometime these days. the benefit of being able to arrive at work at 7 am :)

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kieran491:

any ideas?

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stuarta:

Juski: 7am is time to get out of bed, not be at work

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Juski:

kieran491: have you selected the right kind of card in mythtv-setup ?

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kieran491:

you select the card in mythtv-setup?

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Juski:

stuarta: only doing it to minimise time on the road

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Juski:

and getting home early means more waking hours doing stuff like preparing for the weekend upgrade

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stuarta:

probably get an hour or two's peace at home too...

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Juski:

kieran491: if you have a dvb tuner & didn't set mythtv-setup up to use a dvb tuner... that'd be what's wrong

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kieran491:

well i have set myth to use a dvb tuner

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Juski:

stuarta: yup! I had a weird problem last night caused by my root partition being full

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Juski:

kieran491: have you tested the card with dvb-utils?

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stuarta:

i have weird errors due to my brain being full

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kieran491:

no

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Juski:

kieran491: whoops. so you don't even know if the card even works in linux yet then

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stuarta:

kieran491: from your kernel messages it doesn't look like the driver is loading properly

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kieran491:

hmm

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stuarta:

what kernel?

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kieran491:

umm

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Juski:

rule number one before installing mythtv. check your hardware works so that when mythtv doesn't, you know it's not drivers to blame

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kieran491:

2.6.17-gentoo-r7

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Juski:

kieran491: did you build your own kernel?

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kieran491:

in gentoo

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Juski:

genkernel or manual?

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kieran491:

manual

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Juski:

I'd ask to see your .config file if I knew what I was looking for. I tend to only ever use menuconfig

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kieran491:

mm

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fryfrog:

kieran491: sorry, i came in the middle of this

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fryfrog:

kieran491: what hardware are you using?

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kieran491:

umm

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kieran491:

Twinham

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fryfrog:

erm, its gotta be longer than that ;)

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kieran491:

umm

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fryfrog:

can you pastebin.ca the output of it's details from lspci -v?

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kieran491:

well i lost my box for it :S

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kieran491:

installing pciutils

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fryfrog:

you know what driver it is supposed to use?

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Juski:

is it a single tuner twinhan thing or a dual tuner one?

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kieran491:

singal

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kieran491:

umm i have modules loaded will that scu the results of lspci?

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fryfrog:

nope

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** hjohnson has the issue with the samsung tuners and the pvr-500s.. **

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hjohnson:

grumble

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kieran491:

the lspci -v results http://rafb.net/paste/results/BlHin854.html

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fryfrog:

do you know what kernel module it uses?

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fryfrog:

oh, bt878

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fryfrog:

you've got that module compiled and all?

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kieran491:

i use

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Juski:

bt878-dvb or something, you need

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kieran491:

bttv card=113 tuner=4 and

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kieran491:

dvb-bt8xx

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Juski:

aye bingo

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Juski:

is it making the device nodes? e.g. /dev/dvb/adapter0/ ??

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kieran491:

yes

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kieran491:

MythTV-Slave linux # ls /dev/dvb/adapter0/ demux0 dvr0 net0

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stuarta:

missing the frontend driver

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stuarta:

one more driver to load....

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kieran491:

hmm :|

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afrosheen:

has anyone with an Athlon64 noticed 100% cpu usage on .20 during HD playback?

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fryfrog:

I was viewing some HD on my AMD64 3000+ the other night while trying to find "real" channels and it was using 40–50%

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kieran491:

well this is my lsmod

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kieran491:

http://rafb.net/paste/results/2FTsK169.html

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fryfrog:

what does dmesg say?

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fryfrog:

you can rmmod all the bttv / bt878 stuff and re modprobe it

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fryfrog:

and see what dmesg says

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stuarta:

from your earlier log "dvb-bt8xx: A frontend driver was not found for device 109e/0878 subsystem 1822/0001"

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seth|laptop:

is there a way to keep the shows you recorded, re-install mythtv, and then re-import the shows back into the table on mysql?

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seth|laptop:

would a mysqldup do this?

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Juski:

seth|laptop: yes. with nuvexport

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seth|laptop:

er mysqldump

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kieran491:

hmm?

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fryfrog:

seth|laptop: yeah, mysqldump

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kieran491:

are these questions aim at me?

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fryfrog:

of course, you'll also need the files

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seth|laptop:

no just for the general room

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fryfrog:

course, a mysqldump will restore everything

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fryfrog:

kieran491: some of them were to you i think, stuarta's

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fryfrog:

and mine

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Juski:

kieran491: I _think_ you also need dvb_core

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kieran491:

that is built in to my kernel

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afrosheen:

just move your recordings to a samba share, add a mountscript or some entries to /etc/fstab, then you can upgrade with no worries

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Juski:

kieran491: why build stuff like that into the kernel? it's always best to have em as modules, at least until you know what works

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seth|laptop:

well here is what happened. I hosed up my knoppmyth install, I know I can re-install the whole thing including mythtv, in a single partion on my hda1, and then use lvm_recreate to bring back my existing /myth mount point currently residing on hda3, and hdb1 after the OS is re-installed, I wish to bring back all my goodies, like it never happened :-)

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Juski:

is there a 0.20 knoppmyth yet btw?

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seth|laptop:

the files will still be there, I just need to put them back into the mysql db

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seth|laptop:

if you upgrade to r5d1, cecil has built debs to upgrade from 19fixes to 20

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afrosheen:

Juski: it's under construction

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kieran491:

well its build in so...

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kieran491:

its loaded up

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Juski:

kieran491: modules sometimes look for modules to load

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seth|laptop:

however my experience with r5d1 was horrifying, heh, so I am still using good old reliable r5c7

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kieran491:

hmm

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kieran491:

but the modules would not load if it cant load the other module it was looking for it would simply fail

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afrosheen:

seth|laptop: yeah all the testers are polishing up R5D11 currently

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afrosheen:

the 100% cpu usage playing back HD on athlon 64's is a showstopper right now

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seth|laptop:

thats cool, I know they'll get it right

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seth|laptop:

exactly, when I played HD on rd51, w/ xvmc, my cpu was dogged

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Juski:

kieran491: I still think you'd be better with all the v4l stuff as modules at least til you have it working

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kieran491:

well i am just redoing my kernel and modules

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fryfrog:

what is rd51?

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afrosheen:

r5d11 = internal knoppmyth version

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fryfrog:

ah

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hjohnson:

grumble..

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seth|laptop:

so if i do a mysqldump, rebuild knoppmyth, re-attach my lvm /myth folder, and then re-import the dump, all my goodies will still be there? and what would the command be to re-import the dump, if this is true?

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afrosheen:

seth|laptop: what kind of cpu do you have

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hjohnson:

I've got the bum tuners on my pvr-500 card, it seems

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seth|laptop:

afrosheen Sempron 3000+

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afrosheen:

seth|laptop: it's a sempron64 right

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seth|laptop:

yes

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afrosheen:

welp, there it is then...

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seth|laptop:

that is exactly why I re-iinstalled r5c7

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afrosheen:

my athlonxp 2800 plays back hd with about 60% cpu usage

[16:02:24]

afrosheen:

everyone with ath64's are having 100% cpu usager

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afrosheen:

human is working on it

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seth|laptop:

Human is in my LUG

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seth|laptop:

hehe, local contact

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afrosheen:

that's cool, don't tell him I'm giving you the scoop ;)

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seth|laptop:

he turned me on to knoppmyth

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seth|laptop:

I won't

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afrosheen:

cecil is really anal

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Juski:

that's just another word for paying scruplous attention to detail

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Juski:

s/scruplous/scrupulous

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Juski:

somewhat important when you're dealing with a large user base & making a one-size fits all distro

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hjohnson:

heh

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afrosheen:

no he's anal with people on the forums...particularly me

[16:05:29]

afrosheen:

I don't know why but I always piss him off :)

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afrosheen:

that dude is so overworked I don't know how he has time to do what he does with Knoppmyth anyway

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hjohnson:

afrosheen: no sleep.

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Juski:

I'm anal too.. like I have this insistence that folks RTFM before asking dumb questions but hey...

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afrosheen:

Juski: that's not anal, that's common sense

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Juski:

and I have a terrible habit of ignoring postings that go like "help!! it not worky!"

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afrosheen:

haha

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afrosheen:

or 'mythtv is teh suxor im goeing back to MCE it broked my computer'

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afrosheen:

I hate temper tantrum posts

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Juski:

well that's gentoo's fate sealed. just synced portage & emerge -pv mythtv tells me there's stuff gone badly wrong. xorg 6.9 is blocking stuff but I don't wanna upgrade to 6.9

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quicksilver:

Juski: help! it not worky!

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Dibblah:

It's technically possible to mask 7... But really not worth it.

[16:09:52]

Juski:

I know it's not worth it, so I'm changing to ubuntu

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Dibblah:

Yay!

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afrosheen:

sounds like it not worky

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Dibblah:

Gentoo's idea of when a patch is suitable for distro inclusion is rather... Sketchy.

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Juski:

it not worky. me could spend all weekend making fixy, but can't be arsed-y

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Dibblah:

It tends to be "when someone posts a patch somewhere, it gets added to Gentoo".

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Juski:

whatever. I've put up with it for 2 years & it's time for something which pisses me off less

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Juski:

the big mistake I've made is not keeping it up to date & reading every upgrade note going

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Dibblah:

But what are you going to do with all the time that you're not compiling stuff?

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Juski:

Dibblah: I don't mind compiling the odd thing. I might have to if I don't get any joy out of 0.20 ubuntu packages

[16:13:36]

Dibblah:

What gets me is the stupid idea of putting *important* messages in the middle of an emerge. So that it scrolls waaay off the buffer when the emerge is completed.

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Juski:

the big beef I have with ubuntu's mythtv installer is that it croaks if the mythtv user already exists

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afrosheen:

wow that seems like a major oversight

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afrosheen:

if exists user 'mythtv' goto 20

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Juski:

I can see that they've only tried to help though

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Dibblah:

Right. Time to reboot into (hopefully) a kernel that does UML hosting.

[16:15:05]

Juski:

but I find it a little over-reaching IMHO

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quicksilver:

I use debian and install myth by hand; everything else by packages, just myth itself by hand. Seems quite manageable to me.

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Juski:

debian/ubuntu/whateverdistro.. don't care so long as I can get a mythtv system working without spending all weekend pulling my hair out

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Juski:

pulling my hair out/waiting for X to compile

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afrosheen:

I wonder how I can get a list from the local cable company telling me which channels are 5c encrypted so I can take them out of my channel list

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Juski:

I'm not being anti-gentoo, it's just not for me

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afrosheen:

everytime I tune to 5c stations myth gives me the 15 Second Black Screen then goes back to the menu and I'm stuck on that channel until I edit the mysql field

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Juski:

you cant just go deleting channels willy-nilly or you'd have to edit the mysql field too

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nandy_:

anyone use a 3250HD for firewire capture?

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afrosheen:

yeah that's why I need a list

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afrosheen:

nandy_: nope I have a motorola 6412 III

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afrosheen:

nandy_:have you attempted it yet?

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nandy_:

i have to swap my cable box to test it

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nandy_:

thats why im asking

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afrosheen:

go for it

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afrosheen:

by using plugreport and some black magic you should get something from it...eventually

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afrosheen:

Juski: the frustrating part is that all the HD content on time warner here is 5c except for stuff you could get via an OTA card

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Dibblah:

t

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afrosheen:

Juski: at first I thought it was only HBO HD and stuff like that but it's other channels too

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** afrosheen prays for a 5c encryption cracker **

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Juski:

heh

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Juski:

it's only a 256bit key that changes every 2 seconds isn't it? just hire a dedicated line to a Cray

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Juski:

or make that cluster you've always dreamed of :-P

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afrosheen:

ouch

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afrosheen:

well if I had an HDMI input card, problem solved

[16:26:50]

afrosheen:

the cable box decrypts it on the way to the TV

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Juski:

if the said HDMI card supported HDCP, yes

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afrosheen:

I'm not sure it's using HDCP

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fryfrog:

HDCP is really new, so most TVs and cable boxes don't support it

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Juski:

sadly though uncompressed HD might totally swamp the PCI bus a tad

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afrosheen:

currently I have it running to my tv via component, and component is an unencrypted stream

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afrosheen:

Juski: that's why blackmagic's card is pci express 1x

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fryfrog:

I just hope that card i saw on engaget gets linux support

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afrosheen:

fryfrog: I've been in touch with those guys

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afrosheen:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php . . . #post8425982

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afrosheen:

that's the scoop thus far

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fryfrog:

thanks

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afrosheen:

it looks..kinda promising, maybe

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afrosheen:

they were telling me they're trying to get their hands on different set-top boxes to test it with everything

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fryfrog:

btw, that card is pci-e

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afrosheen:

yeah but it's not pci express x16

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fryfrog:

so no pci bus flooding issues

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afrosheen:

look how short the contacts are on it

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fryfrog:

right, just pci-e 1x

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fryfrog:

which is still very fast

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afrosheen:

yep

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afrosheen:

bonus

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fryfrog:

if a pci-e 1x can *output* hdcontent (it can)

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fryfrog:

it sure as hell can input it

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afrosheen:

yeah that card can

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afrosheen:

it's got twin hdmi ports, can act as a genlock for dvr cameras

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afrosheen:

they said something about live mixing which sounds insane

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afrosheen:

could you imagine having cable and satellite, in hd, and doing PiP with myth?

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afrosheen:

that would rule

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fryfrog:

if this card works, i'll buy two of them :)

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fryfrog:

and switch to satalite

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fryfrog:

i hate comcast :p

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afrosheen:

I've got nothing against them here..Time Warner just took control locally

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fryfrog:

comcast has just been a horrible company to deal with

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fryfrog:

for me

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afrosheen:

other than the 5c encryption on random channels

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jams:

anybody know how to disable virtual resolution with xorg?

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nandy_:

sounds liek the cable co says i can get all my data out the firewire port

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afrosheen:

nandy_: you might be able to, depends on what they encrypt

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nandy_:

they say "nothing"

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nandy_:

but i dont think this guy knew what he was talkinga bout

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afrosheen:

nandy_: that's nearly impossible but whatever, give it a shot

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nandy_:

yah i think thats my only choice

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nandy_:

heh

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afrosheen:

what do you have to lose?

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afrosheen:

a couple of hours of your time

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nandy_:

all the recordings on my cable-company dvr :P

[17:01:33]

afrosheen:

no, you go get an extra box

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afrosheen:

so it'll cost you maybe $5

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afrosheen:

wait...you have a cable-company dvr already and it doesn't have firewire?

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nandy_:

the ports are disabled on my model :(

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afrosheen:

that sucks, the FCC ruling should have changed that

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afrosheen:

so yeah, go pick up another box with firewire enabled

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afrosheen:

find out where your local comcast warehouse is and swing by

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nandy_:

oh

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nandy_:

i know where it is

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nandy_:

its next door to where i work

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afrosheen:

well there you go :)

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afrosheen:

the only reason I have a comcast/TW dvr is for the firewire

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nandy_:

supopsedly i need to get the 3250 HD

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nandy_:

its the only one they ahve with firewire on

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Juski:

damn my desktop's HDD just died

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Syn-:

i havent tried it yet, but when you hook that comcast dvr up to a mythtv box via firewire can you just copy the files over?

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Dibblah:

Time to swap in the hotspare and restore from backup :)

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Juski:

Dibblah: as if... desktop machine == disposable

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Dibblah:

Okay. Time to chuck it in the skip and get a new one.

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Juski:

looking at the insides of the box it seems it might've died of dust inhalation

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simcop2387:

Juski: that sucks my brother had 2hdds do that recently (possibly same cause)

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nandy_:

wow: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap060921.html

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simcop2387:

thats why i dust my computers every 6 months

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Juski:

long time since I've had to do this, and it hurts

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halcyon:

what's that Juski?

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Juski:

it has a much higher WAF than linux, put it that way

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GreyFoxx:

My desktop hasn't had a drive since the last one died a couple years ago :)

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halcyon:

hmm, are there any scripts that can tell if the backend is recording? I'd like to add it to a script to record off the svideo input on a pvr-150 (so I can record off a camcorder with an icon on the desktop, for instance)

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jams:

halcyon- you can get the status from port 6544 of your masterbackend

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jams:

use curl/wget and parse the results

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halcyon:

cool thanks, that should work

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simcop2387:

GreyFoxx: netbooting it?

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simcop2387:

or notbooting :)

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GreyFoxx:

simcop2387: netboot

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GreyFoxx:

I do it for my desktop and all frontends

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simcop2387:

GreyFoxx: i've thought about doing that at some point, hows the performance?

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GreyFoxx:

can't really notice a difference

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GreyFoxx:

100mbit network and the drives only do a max of 100mbit to 133mbit anyway

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lnx^:

any repository for ubuntu dapper that has the newest mythtv?

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GreyFoxx:

simpc: certainly not enough to bother me

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simcop2387:

GreyFoxx: hmm nice, i always wondered if it might be worth looking in to, when i get an apartment i've thought about doing that for any extra computers i get simply because its cheaper and a fun thing to setup

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lnx^:

no dapper repositories with the newest version?

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halcyon:

lnx^: deb http://home.eng.iastate.edu/~superm1 dapper main

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seth|laptop:

in regards to my earlier issues with the mythweb problems, and the error about mysql, and php, rerunning dpg-reconfigure php4-mysql, and then restarting mysql and apache, resolved the issue. Mythweb functioning normally agian. :-)

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simcop2387:

GreyFoxx: only time i can see a problem is with many netbooted computers all trying to run many things

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simcop2387:

but Gig-ethernet would handle that problem fairly well

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GreyFoxx:

simcop2387: Seriously, you are not likely to notice

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simcop2387:

yea, one person, definately not, but lets say you had 20 :)

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GreyFoxx:

100mbit is a LOT of data and as long as you are using a switch (preferablly not a cheap little linksys nat router "switch" then you should be good

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GreyFoxx:

Even that is not a problem

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GreyFoxx:

if configured correctly

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simcop2387:

ah crap, i need to get to class

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lnx^:

halcyon: who administrates that repository? is it safe?

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lnx^:

and will it be updated in the future

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halcyon:

that I don't know, lnx^, it was an answer off the mythtv-users list

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lnx^:

okay, thank you

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lnx^:

hmm, after upgrading I get the error 'memory limit reached' or something similar (it's not in english for me)

[18:41:33]

lnx^:

this comes only in mythfrontend

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lnx^:

according to strace the crash occurs just after all 'images' have been loaded

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lnx^:

then I get a SIGSEGV

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lnx^:

hmm it seems to be caused by some of the plugins

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LLyric:

It's a bit unclear to me – how do I control how a CCK node is displayed?

[18:57:00]

LLyric:

Where the fields are, etc.

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LLyric:

Oops!

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LLyric:

It switched channels on me

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seth|laptop:

ok, here is an interesting thing. I have a slave nackend set up at home, and on its mythtv setup, I have it set to do all of the commflagging. However, it does not do it automagically, I actually had to ssh into it and run mythcommflag. Do I have something set up wrong?

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hjohnson:

grumble..

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hjohnson:

so aparently I'm not allowin in the quality problems I'm having with this PVR-500

[19:01:42]

Paladine:

what does this mean

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Paladine:

[mpeg2video @ 0xb732a188]ac-tex damaged at 17 25

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Paladine:

[mpeg2video @ 0xb732a188]Warning MVs not available

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jams:

seth|laptop- make sure mythcommflagg is in the default path

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seth|laptop:

I'll check that jams. My only goal for this slave was for commflagging and transcoding, and eventually maybe adding a tuner card. Would I be guessing right, if I assumed, since I ran the command in a screen session, without the "&" it will continue to commflag as the shows record. In otherwords, If I leave it run, will it continue to work in the background?

[19:09:12]

armand:

anyone know an ubunutu repository to get mythtv offa?

[19:09:20]

armand:

new to this distro hehe

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halcyon:

yes seth (for the sans & question)

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seth|laptop:

armand try http://www.abarbaccia.com

[19:12:09]

seth|laptop:

looks like all you will need

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Juski:

I might have to try & repair that failed HDD. My theme work files are on there.. DOH!

[19:12:17]

armand:

i just saw that while googleing, thanks

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seth|laptop:

thanx halcyon

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armand:

hrm does mysql5 work with myth now

[19:13:03]

armand:

only version i see in the respository on this install

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seth|laptop:

I see in some forums, that it works ok

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armand:

ah cool

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seth|laptop:

the only thing you want to make sure of though, if you ever build a frontend only or slave backend box, you should make note of the mysql version you have installed, as they will most likely butt heads otherwise.

[19:15:05]

armand:

my masterbackend is 4

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armand:

this is a frontend im doing.. so should i look for 4?

[19:15:19]

armand:

actually

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armand:

that wont matter

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armand:

its just a frontend lol

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armand:

drrrrr

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seth|laptop:

I just dealt with this on my xbox frontend, had an old version of mysql on xebian (xbox debian) and I had to update it to connect to my backend, was quite a pain

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armand:

must be because of qt and stuff

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armand:

and mysql client

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defaultro:

is anyone aware of playback tearing/slowrefresh when StandardXVMC is chosen?

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defaultro:

hey folks, I don't like the way I run my mythfrontend when it gets killed. I do it in a cronjob. Are there nicer way?

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halcyon:

don't.. kill it? :D

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Darthy:

the latest minimyth comes without any kernel images and cramfs, but an nfs or ram file. wheres the kernel image and how to boot the ram image ?

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kormoc:

you might want to ask the minimyth folks

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armand:

heh

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armand:

anyone successfull in running myth with decent performance (on a decently powered machine of course) in vmware?

[20:22:51]

armand:

frontend only

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kormoc:

not really, given the lack of accelleration

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armand:

yeah i'll obviously use the qt hooks

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armand:

not gl

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Juski:

ask me tomorrow, Darthy

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armand:

on my primary desktop im playing alot of games lately, they dont run well/at all in cedega, so i reboot to windows... i have been watching myth on my laptop on the same desk, but im kind of getting sick of it

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armand:

i want to be able to watch tv in winderz without having to boot back into linux

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Juski:

I expect the kernel is in the ram tarball

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kormoc:

armand, you can likely just use mythlink.pl and a samba share

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armand:

greyfoxx mentioned running myth in vmware

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kormoc:

not as pretty, but works well

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krisp_:

pcHDTV::GetSignal_v4l1(fd 16, input 2, v4l2): error(Invalid argument)

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krisp_:

every time i scan for hdtv in 0.20+

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armand:

yeah im looking for more of a full-myth-functionality kind of thing.. maybe even an image i can move to another windows box as well..

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armand:

but again not mythbackend, just frontend. ive watched videos in windows in vmware and its worked fine

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armand:

so i think this should work without a prob..

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armand:

i doubt it would be fast enough for hd. but thats because of my desktop only being an xp3200 hehe

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hjohnson:

anyone know how hard it is to setup winmyth?

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** hjohnson hides **

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scottder:

Anyone else have issues with color on the preview part of the recording screen....seems like colors are inverted (Thomas the Tank Engine is yellow! :))

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Juski:

hjohnson: winmyth is nothing but a PoS

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Juski:

Darthy: the kernel IS in the tarball

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Juski:

in the RAM tarball it's called 'kernel' (surprise surprise) & rootfs is called 'rootfs'. amazing stuff.

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hjohnson:

Juski: looked like it

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hjohnson:

Juski: hence why I was hiding

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hjohnson:

Juski: problem is I don't have a machine to use as a front-end yet. :P

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Juski:

try a knoppmyth cd

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Juski:

or try tapeworm.. that's very good for playing back recordings. you dont want livetv anyway since that's so 20th century

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hjohnson:

like I said, I don't have a mchine to use as a front-end. :)

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Juski:

ah well. I'm off to watch some mythtv & celebrate my 'dead' HDD no longer being dead

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bjn2:

i'm trying to setup a dual head system... the dvi goes to my lcd and this shows my normal desktop which i can control with my keyboard/mouse.. the tv-out on my graphic card should display mythfrontend which i can control with my remote.. anyone got a similar setup? i dont know if i should run two separate x servers or if i should use two screens on 1 server

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bjn2:

when i try to run 2 different x servers through gdm i only get the login screen on my tv.. and when i stop that server the login screen on my monitor pop ups

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defaultro:

anyone here uses xvmc?

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Igg-man:

Huh... that's funny, I was just about to ask the same question

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Igg-man:

well, slightly different... I wanted to know if it is worth the effort to get it working

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lumpToe:

defaultro: I use it with NVidia (Im not that much of a techie)

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Dibblah:

Processors >800Mhz or so, no, not worth it.

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Igg-man:

lumpToe: does it look better?

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Igg-man:

Huh... I think my qt is broken, I keep getting errors when compling that files are missing

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jams:

hi lumpToe

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lumpToe:

It does look better but then my signal is weak

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lumpToe:

Hi jams

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lumpToe:

signal from the coax

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lumpToe:

Right now trying to fix my osd

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Igg-man:

Does mythtv compile with 4.1.4 version of qt?

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lumpToe:

Igg-man: I need to check my system at home.

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jams:

dont think myth is qt4 ready

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RyeBrye:

Has anyone seen today's woot? http://www.woot.com/ – will that remote work with MythTV?

[21:28:53]

Igg-man:

jams: hmm... seems to be the case (for me anyway)

[21:29:10]

Igg-man:

Anyone got any suggestions on how I can go back to qt3 on my gentoo box?

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roger55:

Igg-man, did you get rid of it or is qt3 still there?

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Igg-man:

I think it is gone... the /usr/lib/qt3 directory doesn't exist

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fryfrog:

Igg-man: emerge =qt-3* -va

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Igg-man:

Hmm... can I also change my /etc/make.conf to include qt3?

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roger55:

Igg-man, there is a qt3 USEflag, yes.

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Igg-man:

err... useflags

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fryfrog:

that'll let you have qt3 and qt4 at the same time

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Igg-man:

that sounds like the thing to do

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Igg-man:

I'll just do that, then rebuild qt. Sound right?

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roger55:

Igg-man, check with --ask or --pretend first

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Igg-man:

Hmm... that didn't seem to do it. I'll try your suggestion

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roger55:

Igg-man, what are you trying to build against qt3?

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fryfrog:

So I can pickup NBC, CBS, ABC and FOX in HD :(

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fryfrog:

roger55: probably myth, which requires qt3

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fryfrog:

though i thought the mythtv ebuild brought in qt3

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** roger55 looks **

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Igg-man:

fryfrog: is the ebuilt .20 now?

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fryfrog:

thats what mine is, but i had to unmask em

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roger55:

Igg-man, 0.20_p11244 is ~arch in portage

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Igg-man:

oh... hmm... I'm compiling from the source. Oh well

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roger55:

Igg-man, http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=mythtv

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roger55:

Igg-man, using ebuilds or not?

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Igg-man:

nope, just using the source from mythtv.org website (the tarball)

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Igg-man:

Do you think I should use the ebuild?

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roger55:

Igg-man, I recommend you use the package manager.

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Igg-man:

I'd like to keep everything the same as my roommate. He isn't running gentoo, so we need to keep our versions the same

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roger55:

it'll add the mythtv user for you for example and as any package manager portage keeps track of your packages and files installed preventing your system from becoming one big mess

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Igg-man:

Eh, I guess I don't care too much. I have a dedicated computer for mythtv

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roger55:

Igg-man, make sure you get the same version as him 0.19 or 0.20 or whatever he has.

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Igg-man:

We do right now, some SVN version. However, we are going to upgrade everything to .20 sometime

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Igg-man:

I'm getting mine ready

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** roger55 doesn't understand why one would avoid using the package manager when there are packages **

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Igg-man:

I suppose I could

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Igg-man:

I just don't want to accidently upgrade it

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Igg-man:

Are there ebuilds that do the svn?

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roger55:

there are. but not in portage

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Igg-man:

Huh... I've never used one of them. Is that hard to do?

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roger55:

and besides the number after 0.20 stands for the svn "version" of the checkout

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frankrizzo:

do I need to restart mythbackend after doing a mythfilldatabase?

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Igg-man:

frankrizzo: I've never had to. In fact, I think my mythbackend automatically runs mythfilldatabase

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roger55:

Igg-man, just use what is in portage, adding 3rd party ebuilds isn't hard, but you need to maintain those yourself and have noone to blame when something goes wrong especially with "live" cvs/svn versions.

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Igg-man:

Latest version available: 0.19_p10505

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frankrizzo:

argg, my channels keep on updating 2 off, ie the channel guide says that whats really on say channel 6, is on channel 4

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frankrizzo:

i fixed it once by doing a mythfilldatabase --do-channel-update

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frankrizzo:

but didnt fix it this time

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frankrizzo:

any suggestions?

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roger55:

Igg-man, says what?

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Igg-man:

emerge --search mythtv

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frankrizzo:

is that for me Igg-man?

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roger55:

Igg-man, that only shows what is stable.

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Igg-man:

Oh

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roger55:

Igg-man, emerge --sync, emerge eix, update-eix, eix mythtv

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roger55:

Igg-man, eix is a great, fast searchtool for ebuilds

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Igg-man:

cool, I'll check it out

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Igg-man:

I'm still a bit confused about the version

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roger55:

Igg-man, and then you likely need to unmask things in /etc/portage/package.keywords but that goes beyond the topic of this channel, /join #gentoo for gentoo stuff.

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Igg-man:

What cvs version is the stable download on the website?

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Igg-man:

roger55: See, I don't see how this is any easier than just using the tarball from the website

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Igg-man:

seems like a lot more work

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roger55:

echo media-tv/mythtv >> /etc/portage/package.keywords

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roger55:

emerge -av mythtv

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roger55:

lots of work, how?

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kormoc:

Igg-man, it's not a cvs... but in anycase, mythfrontend --version should give it

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Igg-man:

okay

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Igg-man:

I'll try it, but I have to wait for qt3 to finish

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kormoc:

Igg-man, when it's time for you to remove the old installed files, it makes more sense to let gentoo handle it...

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Igg-man:

that it would

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roger55:

Igg-man, echo x11-themes/mythtv-themes >> /etc/portage/package.keywords as well before emerging

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kormoc:

Igg-man, and another place to check would be packages.gentoo.org, it shows the state of all packages/versions rather fast

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fiveiron:

anyone have a second to help me figure out how to get the sound from my analog tv tuner into mythtv? because I thought I had everything configured right but I'm getting nothing

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Igg-man:

probably mythgallery too

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roger55:

fiveiron, that often depends on the card you use, if you need a cable to the line in of your soundcard for example

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roger55:

Igg-man, any of the plugins you want

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fiveiron:

roger55, i've got a cable running from my tv tuner to the line-in on my sound card. when i unmute the line I heard live sound (way out of sync with the encoded video). so i mute that, set line to captur, and unmute PCM and master. and i get no sound

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roger55:

fiveiron, you get sound out of your soundcard but not in the recording if you do that. right?

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fiveiron:

right, I can unmute line and hear sound just fine. but if i mute the output, and set line to capture I dont hear the encoded sound through mythtv

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roger55:

fiveiron, you probably need to tell mythtv to use the soundcard as audio device instead of the tvcard, not sure where that setting is. check the wiki or wait for someone who knows

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fiveiron:

roger55, thanks dude... found that and fixed it

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roger55:

what's the setting called?

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fiveiron:

well actually all i had to do was change the sound card that I had set up in my capture card settings.....

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fiveiron:

apparently when you change the sound card within the frontend that doesn't specifically change that sound card

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fiveiron:

so i selected my capture card, and selected the right sound card

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roger55:

:)

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fiveiron:

now i just need to perfect the picture quality cause it is crap

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frankrizzo:

same here

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frankrizzo:

i think its dropping frames or something

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fiveiron:

well on my end, some channels are way too bright, some have way to much contrast etc

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frankrizzo:

oh, different problem I guess

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fiveiron:

i really just need a new tv tuner.... this is an ati tv wonder...

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frankrizzo:

ah, im glad I didnt get one

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frankrizzo:

of those

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frankrizzo:

although my pvr 150s might not be a ton better

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fiveiron:

hauppage is an awesome card

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fiveiron:

no matter what level

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fiveiron:

:-)

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frankrizzo:

then whys my quality crap?

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fiveiron:

what don't you like about the picture?

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roger55:

frankrizzo, in what way?

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fiveiron:

heh

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fiveiron:

great minds think alike

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fiveiron:

;)

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frankrizzo:

its somewhat gittery

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frankrizzo:

watching sports is pretty bad

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fiveiron:

what speed is your processor?

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frankrizzo:

semron 3000

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frankrizzo:

1 gig of ram

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frankrizzo:

should be more than enough horssies

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GreyFoxx:

turn on deinterlacing

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frankrizzo:

already on

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frankrizzo:

with bob 2x

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GreyFoxx:

Don;t use bob unless you are driving an HDTV

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frankrizzo:

tried kernel, helped a little bit

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frankrizzo:

not doing hdtv

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frankrizzo:

so I'll change it back to kernel

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frankrizzo:

and I found standard worked best for the mpeg2 decoder

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frankrizzo:

standard XvMC, which I thought should work the best, seemed worse than libmpeg2

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frankrizzo:

any suggestions/

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Darthy:

how to depack a ram-fs image ?

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Darthy:

not a cram

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hjohnson:

whee, our building is coming apart at the seems

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antiProzac:

I just put in an nvidia GeForce MX 4000. TV-Out works up until X starts. Then the TV goes black

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antiProzac:

I ran the NVidia.run script/binary

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antiProzac:

everything went fine

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antiProzac:

any ideas? I assume I am missing something critical in xorg.conf for tv-out

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Aid`:

it looks like you need TVOUT option in the xorg config

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antiProzac:

you bet

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antiProzac:

how would one go about setting that up

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Aid`:

look at wiki

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pigeon:

does mythtv 0.19.x support dvb teletext/closed captions?

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kormoc:

pigeon, I have no idea, but myth is upto version 0.20 stable now

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pigeon:

yeah, i was wondering if i should upgrade yet :)

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antiProzac:

nothing works for getting X to diplay on my television

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antiProzac:

nvtvout says :No supported cards found

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antiProzac:

sorry, the binary is nvtv(from sourceforge)

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darkskiez:

anyone using debian sid / svn myth? I just get a black screen and my x server locks up at 100% cpu

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robbins876:

i hate myspace

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darkskiez:

when i try to watch tv

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darkskiez:

robbins876: its awful.

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robbins876:

i think i'd rather pee in my mouth than read comments from my sister on myspace

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robbins876:

why can't she just e-mail me or call or something?

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janneg:

darkskiez: try NO_XV=1 mythfrontend

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darkskiez:

oookay..

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darkskiez_:

nope

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darkskiez_:

any other ideas?

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janneg:

darkskiez_: no, but it is not a Xv problem

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darkskiez_:

:)

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antiProzac:

does anyone have an xorg.conf file for TVout with nvidia

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Agrajag-:

i've got one that does tvout on a 2nd screen if that's at all useful to you

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frankrizzo:

I am trying to go into mysql and delete a channel that I suspect is throwing off my guide

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frankrizzo:

but no matter what I type, even logged in as root, it says access denied

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frankrizzo:

I am typing mysql -u root mythconverg

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krisp_:

did you set a password

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krisp_:

for mysql

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krisp_:

janneg i am

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krisp_:

here's a question for you people

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krisp_:

recording standard def and playing back standard def

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krisp_:

i have about 1/2 inch of black space from the left edge of the screen to the picture

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krisp_:

only in playback

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krisp_:

and recording

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krisp_:

nwo in the interface

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krisp_:

not*

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krisp_:

ive tried changing the over/underscan and x/y on the playback options

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krisp_:

can't get rid of it

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krisp_:

and if i look at a video in the preview pane in the gui i see the black line

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krisp_:

ideas?

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antiProzac:

anyone successfully get nvidia TV-Out to work?

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Aid`:

yes

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human39:

yeah

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antiProzac:

want to share the secret thats been searched for in the forums?

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human39:

antiProzac, here is my xorg.conf — it was for a FC3 box

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human39:

http://www.scottkriebel.com/mythtv/fc3/files/xorg.conf

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human39:

specifically, check out the "Device" and "Screen" section

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antiProzac:

thanks human39

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antiProzac:

I'll give it a try

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krisp_:

anyone have an answer for my question

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human39:

this was for a composit out

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antiProzac:

I read the appendix H from nvidia. I should be able to configure it to SVidio

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word:

Hi uh...i've almost got knoppmyth set up..but i'm trying to use nfs to mount the recordings directories of my two non-knoppmyth computers (they can mount the knoppmyth systems recording dir fine) but for some reason even though it's in the fstab..it's saying they aren't :-/ and nfs is complaining about not having a recovery directory? not sure if that's a problem.

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Fnc:

hey all

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Fnc:

anyone know where in the database, you can find, the channel setup and pid stuff for hdota?

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ShockValue:

anyone ever done ac3 passthrough with intel HD audio (ich7?)

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ShockValue:

not sure, whatcha trying to do Fnc?

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krisp_:

i have about 1/2 inch of black on my tv recordings and playback on the left edge of the screen (not gui). how can i fix this? ive tried changing the x/y and overscan settings in playback settings, its also in the recordings as can be seen on the playback pane

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gentoo_noob:

I am trying to be about to compress recorded shows to divx or xvid and still be able to view them in the recorded tv shows? Is it possible?

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ShockValue:

Fnc: i think the table is called "channel"

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word:

by pressing x while viewing a recording it 'transcodes' it this turns it into a .avi file i 'think' but it's really a .nuv file...gets it down to around 300/ half hour

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ShockValue:

krisp_ thats weird.. does it happen when using a different application or doing cat /dev/video etc?

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krisp_:

no

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kormoc:

word, it converts it mpeg-4 or rtjpeg in a nuv container. it's not in a avi container

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word:

eh thats why i put 'think' instead of does hehe

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antiProzac:

I have TV-Out in X...Only its black and white :(

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gentoo_noob:

mine has been putting it to about 850 per half hour

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