Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Sunday, September 17th, 2006, 00:01 UTC

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mkrufky:

knoppMythNewbie: i mean, if you delete the interrupted recording from within tht mythtv interface, and chose the "allow re-record" option, then it should be recorded again on the next showing

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flithm:

hey everyone... I'm having trouble getting mythgame to load game genre's and years. I imported romDB like the wiki says, and the output of mythfront end says it's loaded 53226 items from romDB Database, but when I go to browse by genre all that's there is Unknown.... anyone know what's going on?

[00:01:55]

knoppMythNewbie:

The only place I can find a trace of a recording is in the Previously Recorded listing.

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tank-man:

from there pick allow re-record

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tank-man:

can you?

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knoppMythNewbie:

mkrufky: is that where I delete them.

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mchou:

alright, so have there been any quirks with myth 0.20?

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knoppMythNewbie:

tank-man: The allow re-record... is that in the Scheduling?

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nomin:

I just screwed something up and I'm not sure what I did

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nomin:

I can't tell mythtv where the source is for tv

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xris:

?

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flithm:

mchou: for me it's been nothing but stable... all the bugs left on the list of things that irritated me are gone. 0.20 rules if you ask me.

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xris:

nomin: rerun mythtv-setup

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nomin:

I'm pretty sure it's analog v4l, but it can locate input device

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nomin:

xris: I just did. I don't know how I screwed this up

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mchou:

flithm: you using opengl menus by any chance?

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nomin:

I was so close to having everything

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mchou:

nomin: close doesnt count :)

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nomin:

maybe I had mythbackend running while running mythtv-setup

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xris:

nomin: reboot? maybe the driver isn't loaded? did it ever work?

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Krazylegz:

Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.

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nomin:

I already recorded a bunch of stuff. I just wanted to det zap2it working.

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nomin:

*get zap2it working

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knoppMythNewbie:

I'm in previously recorded, I'm on an instance that should've recorded but failed due to lack of space. The remotes info/menu button, just gives... info. And there's no "delete" button. Hit the delete on the keyboard?

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xris:

d

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mchou:

Krazylegz: grenades and IEDs

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** nomin bangs his head into the keyboard **

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mchou:

Krazylegz: now you and I are both monitored by NSA

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mchou:

nomin: need a grenade?

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mchou:

:)

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flithm:

mchou: yep I am

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flithm:

mchou: they're great

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nomin:

I have a coaxial cable for my cable tv plugged into my wintv go-plus. I would select 'analog v4l' for the source, wouldn't I?

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mchou:

nomin: yup. but that's crappy HW

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mchou:

nomin: SW encode and crap.....

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Krazylegz:

mchou: Yay! Now I feel loved. The government is watching me.

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mchou:

nomin: better have plenty of CPU

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nomin:

I just had the whole thing working for the past month and I think I rushed through mythtv-setup looking for where to input my user ID and PW for zap2it. I might have screwed something up there.

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mchou:

so is it possible to compile mythplugins w/o having to install myth? like in a working dir?

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nomin:

there was a message that was incomplete that says something about not running mythbackend while running mythtv-setup. That may be what I did. Maybe I have to reinstall mythtv.

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mchou:

I mean there ought to be a way to tell the myth compile "look in this dir for libs"

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mchou:

I mean mythplugins.....

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mchou:

Krazylegz: get your gentoo box up yet?

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flithm:

mchou: there's probably a way... you might try fudging with LD_LIBRARY_PATH

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Krazylegz:

mchou: Nah, had a really busy week. Working right now, actually.

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mchou:

Krazylegz: heh. That's gentoo for ya :)

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Krazylegz:

Well, I really did do 0 work on it this week.

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mchou:

Krazylegz: I told ya it would take 1 month :)

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Krazylegz:

That's pretty distro-generic.

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knoppMythNewbie:

tank-man: mkrufky: Keyboard delete key doesn't work... what is it that I need to delete, and how?

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Krazylegz:

Heh, you're probably right.

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tank-man:

use arrow keys

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Krazylegz:

I need a robot to mow the lawn. Then I can mythbox it up.

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mkrufky:

knoppMythNewbie: are you in mythfrontend?

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mkrufky:

knoppMythNewbie: select the recording, hit '-->'

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mkrufky:

you'll get a menu

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xris:

knoppMythNewbie: I already told you. D key deletes

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mchou:

Krazylegz: they have those. That's the next big idea for the "self vaccuum" thingamajig

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mchou:

Krazylegz: battery life however is a problem

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Krazylegz:

Yep. http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/ref=br_1 . . . n=B000087QPC

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mchou:

Krazylegz: with a lawn mower that's gas powered battery shouldnt be as big a deal

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knoppMythNewbie:

xris: Sorry I didn't realize the meaning of "d"

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knoppMythNewbie:

mkrufky: And select Remove this episode from the list.

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xris:

knoppMythNewbie: you asked what key, I answered. :) sorry

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nomin:

TVRec(1): Channel: '3' was not found in the database.

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nomin:

Most likely, the default channel set for this input

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nomin:

cardid 1, input 'Television'

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nomin:

in setup is wrong

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nomin:

oops

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mkrufky:

knoppMythNewbie: i dont know where u are

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mkrufky:

knoppMythNewbie: i normally do this from the "watch recordings" section

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J-e-f-f-A:

xris: How ya doin?

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xris:

not bad

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J-e-f-f-A:

How's the summer of code coming?

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paladine:

evening peeps :)

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xris:

long overwith

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J-e-f-f-A:

paladine: Did you build your blaster yet?

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paladine:

good to see some life in here, been a quiet day

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J-e-f-f-A:

xris: How did it work out? Nice?

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xris:

so so

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paladine:

J-e-f-f-A, , nope using a temporary solution at the moment, scheduling on the stb which I set to automatically go to the right channel

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paladine:

but I have recorded about 7 things now on schedule worked out very nicely :)

[00:21:13]

paladine:

I was actually wondering what the most recommended blaster is on the market

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paladine:

cos I will probably just buy one

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J-e-f-f-A:

xris: Is he (or you) going to continue the ajax work?

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xris:

supposedly

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xris:

haven't heard from him in awhile

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J-e-f-f-A:

paladine: I just built a buffered serial ir blaster — the one on lirc.org

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paladine:

how much did it run to in $s?

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J-e-f-f-A:

xris: How complex is the ajax code? Is it 'basic' or very complex?

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xris:

about half and half.

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xris:

mostly simple stuff for now

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paladine:

what you writing in ajax?

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J-e-f-f-A:

paladine: You can make a 'simple', non-buffered one for less than $10usd...

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paladine:

J-e-f-f-A, I want something that is going to work well and is easy to setup

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paladine:

lirc is proving to be my stumbling block at the moment

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paladine:

I had it working yesterday but today as soon as I try and use irw lirc stops running

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J-e-f-f-A:

xris: I'm doing some basic ajax stuff at work now for 'online' monitoring of our mainframes. I'm going to setup my old backend to play with .20, maybe I'll try out the svn version then too...

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xris:

well, not much different in svn yet

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J-e-f-f-A:

xris: So the new stuff isn't in svn? (mythweb, that is — I had though you said it was...)

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xris:

no

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xris:

not yet

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paladine:

oh is mythweb being rewritten in ajax?

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xris:

paladine: not rewritten

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J-e-f-f-A:

xris: Ok...

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paladine:

I haven't installed mythweb yet

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paladine:

but I wanna setup mythgallery so I will be doing

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J-e-f-f-A:

xris: But it's dependent on at least .20, right?

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xris:

theoretically, yes

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J-e-f-f-A:

paladine: btw... my serial blaster works great... ;-)

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paladine:

J-e-f-f-A, whats the link to the one you made?

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J-e-f-f-A:

paladine: http://lirc.org/transmitters.html — The buffered one — 1/2 way down the page. But the non-buffered one should work fine. (I used a buffered one as I'm 'blasting' three IR led's)

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paladine:

J-e-f-f-A, I haven't done any electronics in like 18 years is there something a littlemore n00b orientated?

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J-e-f-f-A:

xris: I'll try to help as I have free time – I've got to get familiar with svn first though.

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nomin:

ok, I think I fixed my problem. I don't know exactly how but it works. I'm almost there.

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paladine:

"Does anybody know what can happen if you short circuit the serial port?" <- I know what happens, it blows your main board, I discovered this after messing with my serial port many years ago with a fork, when the machine was powered on ;)

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paladine:

J-e-f-f-A, you should put together a guide with photos for those of us who are too long in the tooth to relearn electronics ;)

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J-e-f-f-A:

paladine: A fork? Umm. ok, why? ;-)

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paladine:

J-e-f-f-A, I was having issues with my serial modem at the time :)

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nomin:

ah ha! I selected 'delete all video sources'. That's causing my problems.

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J-e-f-f-A:

paladine: The non-buffered one is very simple... A DB9 connector, a piece of wire, a diode, resistor and an IR led... If you've got a soldering iron, you can have it built in 10 minutes (maybe 20 if you make it real pretty with shrink wrap and all...

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jemarcks:

I need help with a kernel module issue i ran into while installing mythtv today. Any takers?

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jemarcks:

I never have seen this error before

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paladine:

J-e-f-f-A, I would be willing to give it a shot if there was a guide with photos rather than just a circuit diagram

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jams:

paladine- also very good http://iguanaworks.net/ir/

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jemarcks:

xris, howdy. been a long time

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paladine:

30 buck pre-built including shipping is pretty damn good

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jams:

thats what I though

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paladine:

would be nicer if they put some housing round the finished board though

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jams:

transmits and receives

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paladine:

jams you using one of those?

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paladine:

also will a blue LED work with all systems? in the UK IR are always red

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ender224455:

How would I go about fixing the colors being displayed on my TV? Everything seems to be.. oversaturated or too red. Text is also pretty blurry (small text during car commercials isn't readable). I'm using a Nvidia 5200

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jams:

yes i'm using two of them

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J-e-f-f-A:

paladine: Would a 'drawn' picture do the trick for you? I could draw one up in about 10 mins for you... (That would look similar to 'real' pictures)

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jams:

I don't think the color makes a difference, but thats just a guess

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paladine:

J-e-f-f-A, yeah that would work, can you include the exact diode and resister you used too? then I can order them from maplin

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J-e-f-f-A:

paladine: Blue shouldn't work — it's a completely different wavelenght of color... (It's on the complete opposite end of the color spectrum). But perhaps the blue LED is emitting IR as well...

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paladine:

I have about 1000 rj45 sheaths, so I could just bury the LED in one of those at the end of the cable and seal it in with silicone

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J-e-f-f-A:

paladine: Ok, I'll draw it up and put it on my server and give you a link to it... give me a few mins...

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paladine:

would make it look less ghetto :)

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word:

momproofing mythtv...seems impossible..

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paladine:

I have a spare serial cable for my router

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paladine:

so I can just modify that :)

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jemarcks:

xris, you there?

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xris:

yeah

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xris:

sort of. heh

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paladine:

2006-09–17 01:40:08.349 Started recording: The Enforcer (Manual Record) "Sun Sep 17 01:40:00 2006": channel 1000 on cardid 1, sourceid 1 <- my scheduling seems to be working :)

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jemarcks:

xris, howdy again.

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xris:

:)

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jemarcks:

xris, my hard disk in my myth box i built almost 2 years ago(with yourhelp) died last week

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xris:

:(

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J-e-f-f-A:

jemarcks: Been there... (A few months ago...)

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jemarcks:

xris, i bought a new disk yesterdays at Frys and im reinstalling and upgrading to the latest mythtv..... i get a wierd error

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xris:

?

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paladine:

whats the best software for linux for editing mpeg2 to remove leading and trailing data that is not the actual movie?

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jemarcks:

[root@localhost ~]# /sbin/modprobe nvidia

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jemarcks:

FATAL: Module nvidia_1_0_8774 not found.

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robbins876:

man, i just got a 20.1" LCD and it is glorious

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jemarcks:

xris, after installing from my FC4 CDs and followiing Jarods guide again, i get this error when I try to install the nvidia and ivtv drivers. ??? wtf?

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jemarcks:

j-e-f-f-a, bummer.

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xris:

make sure you have the latest kernel/drivers/etc and that you reboot after install.

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jemarcks:

xris, i have rebooted,,,, severeal times.... im thinking i need to just start over from scratch again

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xris:

are you sure that the kernel you're running is the same one the nvidia drivers were compiled for/

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xris:

>

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xris:

?

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** xris kicks his keyboard **

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jemarcks:

xris, yum -y upgrade did its thing over nite last nite

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jemarcks:

uhhhh... nope

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J-e-f-f-A:

jemarcks: Yeah, I re-built it from 'scratch' and recoverd my recordings as 'videos' (They were on a seperate LVM than the os...) The only thing left to get it back to the same state as before is to setup MythStreamTV... ;-)

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jemarcks:

the ivtv modules have the same issue as the invidia

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paladine:

J-e-f-f-A, I have to go back upstairs, missus wants to watch The Enforcer with me, so can you drop me a /msg when you get back with the url to your picture please

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ender224455:

How would I go about fixing the colors being displayed on my TV? Everything seems to be.. oversaturated or too red. Text is also pretty blurry (small text during car commercials isn't readable). I'm using a Nvidia 5200

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J-e-f-f-A:

paladine: No problemo....

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paladine:

thanks man

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paladine:

I will probably be back later if I don't pass out first

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jemarcks:

j-e-f-f-a, i couldnt recover my disk at all... was hosed. Maxtor drives sux

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xris:

jemarcks: rpm -qa | grep nvid | sort

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jemarcks:

xris: nvidia-graphics8178-libs-1.0_8178–74.fc4.at

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jemarcks:

nvidia-graphics8774–1.0_8774–75.fc4.at

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jemarcks:

nvidia-graphics8774-kmdl-2.6.17–1.2142_FC4–1.0_8774–75.fc4.at

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jemarcks:

nvidia-graphics8774-libs-1.0_8774–75.fc4.at

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jemarcks:

nvidia-graphics-devices-1.0–5.fc4.at

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jemarcks:

nvidia-graphics-helpers-0.0.14–15.fc4.at

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xris:

jemarcks: and uname -a ?

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jemarcks:

/sbin/modprobe nvidia

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jemarcks:

FATAL: Module nvidia_1_0_8774 not found.

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paladine:

hopefully be back later, if not I will catch you all on the flip side

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jemarcks:

Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.16–1.2115_FC4smp #1 SMP Mon Jun 5 15:01:58 EDT 2006 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

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paladine:

have a good evening folks

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ender224455:

anyone...

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jemarcks:

xris, my hostname isnt set yet either... cant remember how to do that since I only do it once every 2 years or so. lol

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kyleAnderson:

ender224455: you can try nvidia-settings

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xris:

jemarcks: look at the version of your kernel vs the "kmdl" nvidia package

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ender224455:

kyleAnderson: Somebody else was talking about updating ivtv.. or something like that. Should I?

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kyleAnderson:

ender224455: No. Unless the problem is in the recording of the show

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jemarcks:

xris, ah... 2.6.17 vs kernel 2.6.16

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kyleAnderson:

Is it oversaturated in the playback?

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ender224455:

kyleAnderson: no, it is even in the menus

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kyleAnderson:

Then its not ivtv :)

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jemarcks:

xris, how did that happen... how should i fix it?

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ender224455:

kyleAnderson: pretty much seen throughout

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ender224455:

kyleAnderson: thanks

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kyleAnderson:

nvdia-settings will help you

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nomin:

I can't get zap2it to work right. I keep getting "unauthorized" from zap2it. Here is a pastebin from 'mythfilldatabase': http://hashphp.org/pastebin.php?pid=8502

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kyleAnderson:

Spelled correctly of course

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xris:

jemarcks: edit /etc/grub.conf and pick the correct kernel

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nomin:

can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?

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jemarcks:

xris, ah... ok.. leme look... thx

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xris:

nomin: you'll *always* see unauthorized on the first attempt.. otherwise, it wouldn't know to send the auth info

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xris:

nomin: looks fine to me.

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nomin:

xris: this isn't my first attempt.

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kyleAnderson:

Perfectly normal

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xris:

nomin: download goes in two steps.. first attempt gets "unauthorized", second sends auth and gets the info. this is for *each* day that it's downloading info for.

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jemarcks:

xris, default-0?

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xris:

jemarcks: yes

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nomin:

xris: so I am in fact getting info from zap2it?

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jemarcks:

xris, ok.. changed it. I remember doing this long ago. thx. ill be back after a quick reboot ;)

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Ediehow:

if i want to make a mythtv recording file much smaller to save and be able to view on windows media player, what should i nuvexport it to?

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Ediehow:

what format

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xris:

Ediehow: I like xvid, personally

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Ediehow:

xris: is that much smaller, sir?

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xris:

that depends on the bitrate you choose.

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nomin:

under listing status it still says there is no guide data available. Why?

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xris:

nomin: odd

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xris:

restart the backend?

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nomin:

I open a console and type 'mythbackend' to start it every time. I just close the console to stop it. Is it ok to do it that way?

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Ediehow:

xris: enable deinterlacing?

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xris:

generally, no.

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Ediehow:

was that to me or nomin?

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xris:

Ediehow: I like the default settings (then again, I made them)

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xris:

nomin: generally, control-c is better for stopping

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Ediehow:

k, got it

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Ediehow:

thanks xris

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Ediehow:

xris: i did have a quick q

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Dagmar:

xris: I think you picked fairly decent defaults

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Ediehow:

you talked to me about mytharchive a while back

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Ediehow:

but i am confused, once yous elect something in mytharchive to archive, how do you get it to run?

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Ediehow:

i want to stick 3 shows i archived on 1 dvd

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ender224455:

kyleAnderson: you were right on, a quick change to saturation and everything looks much better

[01:07:02]

kyleAnderson:

ender224455: Hurray!

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nomin:

I still have the message saying there is no guide data available. It also says: "warning: is mythfilldatabase running?".

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xris:

nomin: is it?

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nomin:

no

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nomin:

should it be?

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nomin:

at least I don't think it's running

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xris:

nomin: did you actually configure a channel list at zap2it?

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nomin:

at zap2it? You mean on their website? I just set up an account and did nothing else.

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xris:

you have to set up your channel list.

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Dagmar:

nomin: That's _most_ of what you have to do. You also have to tell them a bit about how you get yer TV signal so they know what listings to give you

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xris:

have to pick your tv provider, zipcode, etc.

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robbins876:

anyone know wehre to get a guide for how to set up a samba server?

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xris:

robbins876: samba.org?

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Ediehow:

xris: did you get my archive q?

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xris:

nomin: you can get up to 4 lists — and you need to pick one of those when you set the listing source up in mythtv-setup

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xris:

Ediehow: missed it.

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Ediehow:

but i am confused, once yous elect something in mytharchive to archive, how do you get it to run?

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Ediehow:

i want to stick 3 shows i archived on 1 dvd

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xris:

never used mytharchive

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jemarcks:

xris, im back. it worked! :D

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xris:

jemarcks: :)

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jemarcks:

xris, now on with my myth setup chores

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jemarcks:

xris, whats new with you since wa last talked?

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Mattwj2005:

it looks like the newest Knoppmyth still uses MythTV .19

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Mattwj2005:

:(

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Ediehow:

xris: you had told me a while back about some thing in myth .20 to easily convert to stick on a dvd

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Ediehow:

or something

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xris:

jemarcks: probably not much. long ago was that? :)

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Ediehow:

something like mythburn

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xris:

Ediehow: yes, that's mytharchive. but I don't use it.

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Ediehow:

ok

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Ediehow:

anyone use it? it's kind of confusing

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roger55:

is there a way to set the skin for mythweb or do I just symlink it?

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xris:

Ediehow: afaik lots of people know

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xris:

roger55: settings

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Ediehow:

i was just asking in chan:)

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Ediehow:

i think i broke my dvd burner but i am not sure

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roger55:

xris, settings where?

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xris:

s/know/do/

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xris:

roger55: mythweb

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Ediehow:

it says it is burning a cd but last night would not complete in xp or linux

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xris:

session settings

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Mattwj2005:

how hard would it be to upgrade the newest Knoppmyth to MythTV .2?

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roger55:

xris, ah! thanks.

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Mattwj2005:

*.20

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Mattwj2005:

do I just need a ./configure; make; and make install?

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Ediehow:

are notebook coolers worth anything?

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roger55:

Mattwj2005, first backup your database

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xris:

Mattwj2005: and remove the old version first, and backup your db

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Mattwj2005:

how would I remove the old version?

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xris:

dpkg --help

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Mattwj2005:

what about dependencies? should I be okay?

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xris:

apt-get build-dep

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Mattwj2005:

okay cool

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robbins876:

this monitor is monstrous

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nandy__:

i officially have all my parts!

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CCFL_Man_:

think it would be possible to run mythbackend on a directivo to grab the streams firectly from satellite like with firewire on a cable box?

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CCFL_Man_:

or somehow use a directivo as an input source?

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xris:

CCFL_Man_: svideo. :)

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CCFL_Man_:

xris: heh

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xris:

unless you know of a sat receiver with firewire on it.

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CCFL_Man_:

thats the thing

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CCFL_Man_:

i'm still not convinced a time firewire upgrade will give me all the streams

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xris:

no guarantees it will

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CCFL_Man_:

thats the problem

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Mattwj2005:

hey guys I order HBO and Showtime

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Mattwj2005:

it should be interesting....I have never had premium channels before

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CCFL_Man_:

i'm sure i could pick up a series2 directivo and if i had haxor skills i'd put my own linux on it and utilize the tuner and SoC stuff for directv

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CCFL_Man_:

i have no haxor skills

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opello:

mmm, haxor skills, i hear you can buy those on ebay

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Mattwj2005:

haxor?

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opello:

*shrug* /me points at anecdotal use :)

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CCFL_Man_:

see, the problem is that there is no real way to get satellite streams into mythtv

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CCFL_Man_:

which sucks

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ender224455:

how do I get mythtv to download Channel names, rather than just "Channel 1, Channel 2, etc."?

[01:42:18]

ender224455:

or do I ahve to enter them manually

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xris:

ender224455: from what source?

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ender224455:

DataDirect

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CCFL_Man_:

the series 1 tivo has a STB SoC which handles the directv crap and two directv tuners, the tuner output gets processed by the Soc and the stream is dumped to the hard drive

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ender224455:

Time Warner Digital cable... if that helps

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xris:

ender224455: does it show the names on the zap2it setup page?

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CCFL_Man_:

infact if you can mod a receiver with an sdi output you cancreate some interface to grab the transport stream and send it over firewire

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Mattwj2005:

you have to set that up with ZapIT

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Mattwj2005:

ender224455 that is how you also get the program listings

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ender224455:

xris: Yes, it says KNBC for channel 4, ESPN for 39, etc

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CCFL_Man_:

the problem is that providers do not want people having direct access to a transport stream

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ender224455:

Mattwj2005: I got all the program listings with no problem

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CCFL_Man_:

the fcc should mandate satellite receibvers with full output

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Mattwj2005:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/DataDirect

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Mattwj2005:

oh okay

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ender224455:

Mattwj2005: thanks though. It's just not downloading Channel names for some reason

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xris:

ender224455: those are callsigns, though I guess that's all that zap2it shows

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ender224455:

xris: Is there a way to get those to download, or should I just enter everything manually?

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Mattwj2005:

no problem I try to help....these guys help me enough too ;)

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CCFL_Man_:

and what pisses me off to no end is that if you play around with a receiver directv can try to sue you for signal theft

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xris:

they all downloaded fine for me.

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CCFL_Man_:

when you are not doing signal theft

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xris:

pull open the db and run: SELECT callsign, name FROM channel;

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ender224455:

xris: I'm sorry, how do I pull open the db?

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xris:

mysql -u mythtv -pmythtv mythconverg

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xris:

(notice no space after the -p)

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ender224455:

do I need to be root?

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opello:

no

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ender224455:

xris: OK, done

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ender224455:

the table looks like "Channel 63 | Channel 63"

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ender224455:

so it doesn't have the names as far as I can tell

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CCFL_Man_:

what would be sweet if you can run this server on your directivo which will send the transport stream to a mythtv backend

[01:51:26]

CCFL_Man_:

because fuck the analog cards

[01:51:46]

CCFL_Man_:

analog cards are only good for cabletv and off air

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Dagmar:

In other words, they're only good for about 3/4 of America.

[01:52:50]

CCFL_Man_:

most of vamerica anymore has digital tv in some form

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CCFL_Man_:

satellite or digital cable

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xris:

ender224455: then that's the info that zap2it is sending.

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ender224455:

dang

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xris:

you can edit the names in mythweb or in mythtv-setup and they will stick

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Mattwj2005:

and don't for HDTV :)

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ender224455:

xris: alright, thanks a lot

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Aid`:

I still have to record everything i watch manually... how can i setup the Program Guide to include multiple locations per Program Guide?

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CCFL_Man_:

infact the old rca directv receivers give direct avcvess to the transport stream with a bunch of data lines

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jemarcks:

xris, one more question

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xris:

Aid`: locations?

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jemarcks:

xris, my hostname is 'localhost'. how do i set it to what i want?

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Aid`:

yes, I record off of FTA satellites. Each of my 10 or so channels is from a different location in the US, how can i have mythfilldatabase use zap2it to use 'Little Rock' for one channel, then Mount Vernon for another ?

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xris:

jemarcks: in fedora, /etc/sysconfig/network

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xris:

or put an entry in /etc/hosts

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xris:

Aid`: no clue.

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Aid`:

I have been thinking of just writing my own yahoo.com page grabber (I have all the channel's guides bookmarked at yahoo.com) and then putting them into the database with a custom app

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jemarcks:

xris, i tried /etc/hosts and its not set up yet... ill try the 1st one now

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xris:

jemarcks: I just use dhcp

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CCFL_Man_:

Aid: you get DW TV from FTA too?

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Aid`:

DW?

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jemarcks:

xris, do i need to reboot?

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Aid`:

xris: can mythfilldatabase use a custom made .xml file if it is setup properly to update my program guides?

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CCFL_Man_:

www.dw-world.de

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hobophobe:

Every time I reboot I need to manually tune (via ivtv-tune) my card as well as manually chmod my serial port to be writable by the mythtv user. What should I do to fix these?

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Mattwj2005:

anyone in the US use DVB-S FTA satellites?

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jemarcks:

xris, i used dhcp too. but the hostname wasnt setup

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xris:

jemarcks: probably easiest

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Anduin:

Aid`: Of course

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Aid`:

Mattwj2005: i do

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xris:

jemarcks: my dhcp server pushes the hostname to the machine.

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Mattwj2005:

is it worth the expense of the equipment? C band or Ku band?

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CCFL_Man_:

Aid: how big is your dish?

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Anduin:

hobophobe: both are caused by bad device perms

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jemarcks:

xris, i dont have a fancy one like that hehe

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xris:

jemarcks: heh. I just run a linux firewall.

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jemarcks:

xris, do i need to setup a .domainname?

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Aid`:

I use KU band mostly. MY KU Dish is 1.2m. my CBAND dish is about 8feet

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xris:

jemarcks: no

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hobophobe:

Anduin, permissions? And how would I remedy?

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Mattwj2005:

how many channels?

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jemarcks:

xris, i never have before... just wondered if it woule help me

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Mattwj2005:

anything worth watching? :)

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CCFL_Man_:

Aid: what do you get FTA with kuband in the US?

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Anduin:

hobophobe: udev possibly, or group modifications, depends

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Aid`:

on KU: http://lyngsat.com/g10r.html check out the bottom of the page... such as KWBF, KWFT. Then on CBAND i can get nbc, abc, cbs, WBs, and a premium HD movie channel

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CCFL_Man_:

i wanted to get a 2m dish for a few fta channels but i doubt my dad will allow it

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hobophobe:

ah, ok. why is the manual tuning permission related? it works fine as a normal user after boot?

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CCFL_Man_:

farkin sweet

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hobophobe:

(I'm using a STB so I only have to ivtv-tune it once to the card looking at the channel the stb will send all)

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CCFL_Man_:

Aid: can you receive audio only broadcasts too with your mythtv setup?

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Mattwj2005:

I live in an apartment....I am not sure if I would have good view or if it is a good idea

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Anduin:

hobophobe: There are things like console.perm which change device perms on login

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Mattwj2005:

free is always nice though :)

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Aid`:

CCFL_Man_: you mean radio stations that are on the sats?

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CCFL_Man_:

Aid: yes

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Aid`:

course you can

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CCFL_Man_:

Aid: your c-band dish have a motor on it?

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Aid`:

yeah it mostly has to

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CCFL_Man_:

is aligning the dish a major problem during inital instalation?

[02:06:39]

CCFL_Man_:

or is it kind of easy

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Aid`:

the HD movie channel isn't all that great... i'd rahter prefer having the SDTV movie channel they offer.. but it isn't free :(

[02:06:53]

CCFL_Man_:

ahh

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Aid`:

i didn't set this one up... it was setup about 10 years ago.. just started using it few months ago again.

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** Mattwj2005 has HBO and Showtime as of tonight **

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Aid`:

The ku dishes were hard to setup at first but now i can tweak them to perfection

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pembo13:

i can't get sound from my tv card with kernely 2.1.17

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pembo13:

kernel*

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CCFL_Man_:

Aid: lucky, i want a large dish badly

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pembo13:

and nothing i've tried shows any erros or fixes the problem

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CCFL_Man_:

is an old kernel

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CCFL_Man_:

2.1

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Aid`:

CCFL_Man_: your not missing much w/C-band premium channel: http://www.moviecentral.ca/cgi-bin/schedule2/2006/scheduleMC.cgi

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pembo13:

sorry

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pembo13:

i meant 2.6.17

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pembo13:

2.6.16 works, but not .17

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Aid`:

CCFL_Man_: thats for SDTV and HDTV... look http://www.moviecentral.ca/cgi-bin/schedule2/2006/scheduleHD.cgi sorry

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Mattwj2005:

looks pretty good Aid

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CCFL_Man_:

ahh

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Aid`:

Mattwj2005: look at the second link... there's not that much good stuff

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Mattwj2005:

true but the price is right :)

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CCFL_Man_:

Aid: http://www.dw-world.de/popups/popup_pdf/0,,1813509,00.pdf <-try receiving that from AMC1 and PAS9 sats

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CCFL_Man_:

all info is in that pdf

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CCFL_Man_:

sweet channel

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jemarcks:

xris, imback... it worked. thx :D

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Aid`:

CCFL_Man_: is it in the clear?

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Mattwj2005:

I think I can set myself up for about a $100

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Mattwj2005:

I want to upgrade my computer first though

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CCFL_Man_:

Aid: i'm not sure where you live, but if in the US you can get it pretty easily with your size dish

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CCFL_Man_:

I'd try AMC1 first

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CCFL_Man_:

plus it has radio channels too

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Aid`:

is it cband or ku

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CCFL_Man_:

cband

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CCFL_Man_:

all info is in that pdf, frequency, transponder, symble rate, etc

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CCFL_Man_:

in de and en

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Aid`:

what sort of shows etc does it have?

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CCFL_Man_:

hopefully your lnb will support the frequency

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Aid`:

CCFL_Man_: oh yeah its there http://www.lyngsat.com/amc1.html in the clear

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CCFL_Man_:

news and documentaries in german and english, same on the radio stastions

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Aid`:

why do you want that?

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Mattwj2005:

Aid what is the best Ku satelitte?

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CCFL_Man_:

its a great channel without annoying commercials, and the radio program is interesting too

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Aid`:

Mattwj2005: galaxy 10r

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Mattwj2005:

is there really a free Showtime?

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CCFL_Man_:

granted most of teh stuff is about news, arts, and politics, but there is some about technology

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CCFL_Man_:

try and tune it in

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CCFL_Man_:

i'm curious about video quality

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Aid`:

Mattwj2005: not its Movie Central HD

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Mattwj2005:

oh okay

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Aid`:

but i think it is well worth it... has pretty good shows on, free

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CCFL_Man_:

Aid: i wish i had a dish in my yard, i could even get the discovery channels fdor cheap

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Aid`:

g10r has FOX's (luckily even a local one by me) then WB channels, UPN, ABC, RTN, WGMU, plus tons of spanish programming

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Mattwj2005:

I need some more CPU power before I get anything....but I am definitely interested :)

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CCFL_Man_:

wonder what fta stuff can be picked up in directvs direction

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Aid`:

CCFL_Man_: good question i should hook up my directv dish to my receiver and see what iget

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Zider:

Mattwj2005: core cpus are cool and fast.. :)

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CCFL_Man_:

i got a dish and directv dishes on my house and don't feel like adding more

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Mattwj2005:

I need to save up for at least a month

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CCFL_Man_:

Aid: you got a feed or no dish yet?

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Mattwj2005:

I just bought a new tv

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robbins876:

i just bought a new monitor tonight

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Aid`:

CCFL_Man_: i got about 4–5 ku dishes

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Mattwj2005:

sweet

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CCFL_Man_:

Aid: sweet

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Aid`:

any primestar dishes will work, direcpc ones will too

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rushfan:

http://monoport.com/1355 --> Does anyone know why Im getting those errors?

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rushfan:

(I can't view livetv with mythtv)

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CCFL_Man_:

what kind of card you have in your mythtv box?

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Aid`:

CCFL_Man_: SkyStar2

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robbins876:

anyone familiar with samba servers?

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CCFL_Man_:

twinhan?

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Anduin:

rushfan: The backend logs are much more useful

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Aid`:

CCFL_Man_: Technisat SkyStar2

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CCFL_Man_:

Aid: it works in linux?

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Aid`:

yep

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rushfan:

Anduin: how do I get those? Look in /var/log?

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Anduin:

rushfan: it depends, not usually a bad guess to star there

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rushfan:

http://monoport.com/1362

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rushfan:

Well thats obvious. apparently my settings were deleted when I upgraded

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Anduin:

Yup, or the hostname changed

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rushfan:

Lines 28–30 dont look good either

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Mattwj2005:

hey Aid....can you pick up any of the UK sats?

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Aid`:

Mattwj2005: no the earth is in the way

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Mattwj2005:

where do you live if I may ask?

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Aid`:

michigan

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Mattwj2005:

oh nm....I am in Minneasota

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Aid`:

is there anyprogram out there that can grab guides from yahoo.com and then make an xml file for mythtv?

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|Torg|:

how do I get AC3 output when playing live TV? my card works with mplayer with "-ao alsa:device=iec958 -ac hwac3" but my sound from livetv (and playbakcs) still come out in 2 channel

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paladine:

J-e-f-f-A, thats a damn fine diagram, you should send it to the lirc team to replace the one they have on the page

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paladine:

that I can follow with no problem at all

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J-e-f-f-A:

paladine: hehe... Maybe I will... ;-)

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nandy_:

ok all the parts are together now to select a distro — any obvious choices?

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Mattwj2005:

hey Aid.....I just found out something cool about your movie channel.....

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** scottder likes Fedora....since there is great manual for it **

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Mattwj2005:

I believe it has the second half of Stargate Atlantis earlier than the US :)

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nandy_:

scottder: is there a special fedora build?

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scottder:

Nope I just used FC4

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paladine:

seriously mate, that diagram is somuch better than just a circuit diagram

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paladine:

I don't think it could be any clearer

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scottder:

http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php

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nandy_:

scottder: ok, ill give it a try — normally i use debian but there seems to be little documentation for it

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J-e-f-f-A:

paladine: Thanks! ;-) One thing I noticed about the 'schematic' was that it didn't label the ground connection, nor specify the pins on the serial port. Those two things would make the schematic clearer...

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paladine:

awindows user with a PhD in DumbN00B could follow that diagram

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scottder:

It's very well documented....

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nandy_:

i wish i had blank dvds

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** nandy_ cringes at the 5 isos **

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Ediehow:

hey friends

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Ediehow:

so my dvd burner is broken?

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Ediehow:

woops

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Ediehow:

wrong chan

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paladine:

J-e-f-f-A, at the very least you should add it to the mythtv wiki

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nandy_:

eh im getting 400kB/s i guess thats decent enough

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nandy_:

i should have though about this yesterday...

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J-e-f-f-A:

paladine: I'll look into doing that. I gotta go for tonight, have to get up very early tomorrow... ttyl.

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paladine:

yeah I am heading to bed in about 5 minutes

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paladine:

goodnight bud and thanks for that

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paladine:

I will grab a soldering iron beginning of next week and get it built

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paladine:

should be able to get the parts with no problem

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J-e-f-f-A:

paladine: Ye'r welcome... ;-) ttyl. Goodnight all... ;-)

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xris:

blaster?

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paladine:

xris, yeah

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xris:

irblaster.info is a pretty sweet deal for the price

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paladine:

J-e-f-f-A, improved on the schematic with a very nice diagram

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xris:

$4 or so more than the parts and it looks nie.

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xris:

nice

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paladine:

hope he doesn't mindme pasting the url here :)

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paladine:

http://jartz.homeip.net:8080/files/ir_blaster.jpg

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J-e-f-f-A:

paladine: It's ok... ;-)

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J-e-f-f-A:

(I was just going to paste it anyways...)

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paladine:

:)

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xris:

paladine: yeah. I built one like that. it's ugly. heh. I have no skilzz. :)

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Mattwj2005:

dang that is easy :)

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Aid`:

how can i create an XML file so it is in the correct format for mythfilldatabase?

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paladine:

Mattwj2005, much easier to follow than a circuit schematic for those of us who are not proficient in electronics

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Anduin:

Aid`: Look at existing one, then the XMLTV DTD and/or the docs for DD

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Aid`:

DTD? dd? erm

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xris:

dtd is a "definition" file for xml

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xris:

tells what the file format should look like

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nandy_:

does fedora core have a install CD like debian that just does a net install

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Dagmar:

A DTD is something you have to read.

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Dagmar:

I've yet to see a GUI tool that can be used to create correct XML from, also.

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paladine:

the only component I can't find is a 1000 ohm resister

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Aid`:

and your point is?

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Dagmar:

Aid`: From your past reactions to things, I'm saying you won't be able to

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Dagmar:

Creating valid XML based on a DTD spec is _bitchy_

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hobophobe:

Anyone know about the .ivtv-tune settings file? Can I just add 'channel #' to have it use that automatically?

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hobophobe:

well I'll try that unfortunately it's recording something right now so I'll have to wait to see if it works.

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paladine:

xris – is this the right resistor?

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paladine:

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo= . . . amp;doy=17m9

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robbins876:

anyone have a samba server setup? i can access my files on the shared folder but i can't write anything to it from my XP box

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mchou:

robbins876: plenty ppl have samba, not everyone has XP

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robbins876:

i see

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robbins876:

well, anyone with samba and XP setup?

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robbins876:

it tells me that access is denied

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robbins876:

and that i may not have permission

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robbins876:

i did a chmod 777 on the folder but it didn't change anything

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robbins876:

the folder is owned by root, is there a way i can assume the ownership of the folder? would that even make a difference?

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mchou:

well, that's easy. check your /etc/smb.conf. it needs the correct permissions for the share in question

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robbins876:

alright, where abouts in the smb.conf should i check?

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robbins876:

at the bottom of the file it's got the folder there and it says... writeable = yes

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robbins876:

browsable = yes

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robbins876:

is that what you're talking about?

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hobophobe:

What files system?

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hobophobe:

file system

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paladine:

well night time for me

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paladine:

later folks

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lumpToe:

How long does "Fetch channels from listings source" last?

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Dagmar:

I started one back in 1996 and it's still going

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lumpToe:

hehehe

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Dagmar:

If it's taking more than 5 minutes and you're not on an analog modem, kill it and try again

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lumpToe:

Getting close to 5 minutes

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lumpToe:

After this I am going for Firewire setup

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Dagmar:

There's also no rule against spawning another shell and running tcpdump to see if it's actually talking to anything else

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lumpToe:

thanks Dagmar gonna try that first. I do remember that my first box took a while

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lumpToe:

Crap.. no tcpdump. Let me check netstat

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Dagmar:

ubuntu?

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Dagmar:

Who the hell doesn't ship tcpdump...

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lumpToe:

and just like that it's done.

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Dagmar:

lol

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lumpToe:

You'll kill me for it but

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robbins876:

i don't have smbmount, how do i get it?

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lumpToe:

I am on knoppmyth

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Dagmar:

oh

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lumpToe:

Don't flame me

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lumpToe:

lol

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Dagmar:

Nah I've already fussed at one of their devs in person about that

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Anduin:

robbins876: mount can handle cifs

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Dagmar:

Their stance is that they include tools to make it go, but not necessarily tools to diagnose it when it doesn't.

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Dagmar:

...which seems reasonable enough

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lumpToe:

Hey do you know what the results of Google's Summer Of Code were?

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Anduin:

lumpToe: frustration, rage, I'm guessing some quantity of less than legal drugs, and about half of the projects reaching some point of completion (the code of which has yet to see trunk)

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Anduin:

At least that is what one could gather from the various list postings about it.

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lumpToe:

Anduin: That stinks!

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hobophobe:

Hehe

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lumpToe:

16

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lumpToe:

sorry wrong keyboard

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hobophobe:

I didn't really understand SoC to begin with

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Anduin:

Better than could be reasonably expected I think

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hobophobe:

I mean, the mentor part seems cool. I'm a beginning programmer and would love to get into some projects but don't always have a hard time getting started when it's like climbing mount everest made out of pudding

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hobophobe:

err -don't

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hobophobe:

I have an idea for a project, but it would be too large scale for SoC, I'll probably just submit it to gnu and if they don't take it I'll just have to keep thinking on it until I have the experience to make it myself.

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lumpToe:

hobophobe: Start on a small section and build on it

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scottder:

poking around on my mythtv box anyone know why the backend listens on here:

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scottder:

mythbacke 32752 root 9u IPv4 5559230 UDP 239.255.255.250:1900

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lumpToe:

I would love to dedicate time to MythTV coding but I have kids and only have time between 10pm and 12 for personal stuff

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scottder:

Ah is that the UPnP stuff?

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scottder:

lumpToe: make the kids code too! :)

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Captain_Murdoch:

lumpToe: once your wife is hooked she won't mind you spending some coding time on Myth. :)

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acm-:

if i have analog ntsc does it make any sense to record at higher than 480x480?

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acm-:

i dont know the resolution for ntsc

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lumpToe:

Captain_Murdoch: She is hooked! So much that I can't take the box down for upgrades so I am building a second one

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jams:

lumpToe- is that why you need the extra ram?

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Captain_Murdoch:

so you need to convince her that she wants the features you want so you can spend time on them.

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lumpToe:

jams: the ram is for my second box which is a system I took from my dad in exchange for a XBox (with XBMC) He only does music and streaming

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Anduin:

Or just stay up past 12, every hour past is an hour on myth, you can life on less sleep.

[03:56:41]

jams:

I think you got the better deal on that one

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lumpToe:

Captain_Murdoch: Only extra features she wants if for a few podcast

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jams:

lumpToe- many people have asked for podcast support, you could be a hero!

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Captain_Murdoch:

that's why you need to convince her she wants the ones you want.

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lumpToe:

Anduin: I am really thinking about it. I develop on the Mac and have numerous Linux boxes at work.

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lumpToe:

Do you guys think I can run mythtv in virtualization?

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Captain_Murdoch:

like I just spent 30 minutes making the Watch Recordings screen cache the program listing so if you change recording groups or views it will use the cached data instead of re-retrieving the whole list from the DB, so the screen refreshes a lot quicker. my wife uses recording groups so she'll be quite happy. :)

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adante:

is there anyway i can get the video list in mythvideo to list new files without having to rebuild the metadata list database or whatever it is

[04:00:12]

adante:

or basically, make it rebuild the database of files everytime i go into video list

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jams:

adante- there is a setting called something like "browse filesystem"

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adante:

so that essentially, after adding new stuff to the mythvideo directory, i can just go directly into video list to see these without having to fiddle endlessly

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adante:

jams: yeah, i have "Video List browses files" enabled – this used to do it (i thought), but it does not seem to being it anymore

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jams:

lumpToe- it works fine in vmware, right up until you try to play video :)

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Anduin:

adante: It still does.

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** jams defers to the Anduin **

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Anduin:

adante: The list only refreshed when you enter the view though

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robbins876:

why don't I have smbmount?

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robbins876:

anyone know?

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lumpToe:

jams: It's cool because I don't need videos. That works and I have no need to make changes. The video and audio podcast is the essential. I think that modding RSS reader might be the best way

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** Anduin still doesn't see how occasionally running the video manager qualifies as hoops... **

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Anduin:

robbins876: Because it has been being phased out for years

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robbins876:

really?

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Anduin:

robbins876: mount -t cifs

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robbins876:

then how in the hell do i mount an windows smb?

[04:03:45]

robbins876:

i tried that, it gave me some weird error

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jams:

lumpToe- I test with vmware all the time, works pretty well

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hobophobe:

lumpToe, I would, but it's more the sort of project that needs designing first...it's modular and thus requires an API for modules; also will require some advanced knowledge of TCP/UDP and due to the existing code being in a variety of projects, probably some major porting

[04:04:36]

robbins876:

it says

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robbins876:

mount error 113 = No route to host

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Anduin:

robbins876: and you can get at the share from another Windows machine? smbclient -L it?

[04:06:06]

hobophobe:

Anyway, I'm going to reboot and see if this .iptv-tune fix will work or not

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Anduin:

robbins876: This is also exactly the sort of things a distro and possibly even same channel are good for.

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robbins876:

well, i can connect to the XP machine with smbclient whatever...

[04:06:16]

robbins876:

but i can't mount it

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ShockValue:

well, xforwarding seems to be working, kinda, from my mythbackend to my frontend.. but when i run mythtv-setup, all i get are a bunch of [][][][][] quares for fonts, so i cant ready anything

[04:08:57]

adante:

Anduin: ok, i thought i was experiencing times when i entered hte view and it wasn't updating.. guess i'll put it down to insanity on my part then

[04:09:49]

Anduin:

adante: Yeah if you find one let me know, but it certainly should work.

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robbins876:

Anduin, should i have smbfs? Because i dont' and I cant figure out how to install it

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hobophobe:

Worked on both counts. Good to know.

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Anduin:

robbins876: You are using FC5 right?

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hobophobe:

Added the user to the appropriate group for /dev/ttyS0; added channel <number> to .ivtv-tune; fixes both issues.

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robbins876:

correct

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Anduin:

robbins876: replaced by cifs, really, many long thread about it

[04:12:15]

robbins876:

i can't get cifs to work

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robbins876:

is it because the XP machine is running NTFS?

[04:13:42]

Anduin:

robbins876: No, NTFS won't be the issue

[04:16:01]

robbins876:

alright, it looks like in order for CIFS to work i need to have the package smbfs installed

[04:16:55]

robbins876:

i'm doing this

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robbins876:

mount -t cifs "\192.168.0.102completed torrents" /home/robbins876/tymount

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robbins876:

and it tells me that it gets mount error 113 or something

[04:17:19]

robbins876:

a google search shows nothing of any real value there

[04:18:47]

MooingLemur:

inside double quotes, a backslash needs to be escaped, but to avoid all that, you can use forwardslashes

[04:19:18]

MooingLemur:

"//192.168.0.102/completed torrents"

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robbins876:

hmm... still giving me the same error

[04:21:27]

robbins876:

No route to host

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robbins876:

any ideas?

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pushpop:

can you use myth 0.20 themes in 0.19?

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Anduin:

robbins876: nmblookup -A 192.168.0.102

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Anduin:

pushpop: Why would you try?

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GreyFoxx:

pushpop: It might work, Iwouldn't be suprised if it didn't

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pushpop:

ok ill just wait, I wanted to use the widescreen theme

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** jams wonders what widescreen theme is out for .20 but not .19 **

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alieas:

I'm getting a "libmythavcodec-0.20.so: undefined reference to 'dts_decoder'", eventhough I have set --disable-dts with ./configure, this is on a x86_64 amd platform using the current SVN release.

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pushpop:

MythCenter-Wide

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alieas:

I have googled this and am unable to find a solution, are there additional dts options I can disable?

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ShockValue:

that's so awesome, i built 2 of my own serial IR recievers.. never used a soldering iron before :)

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Anduin:

ShockValue: Add more complex parts

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ShockValue:

why? it works fine :)

[04:36:29]

Anduin:

ShockValue: Simply for the soldering challenge.

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ShockValue:

oh no.. im totally not good at it.. just good enough to make it work

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hobophobe:

ShockValue, I've never soldered before, but hope to pick it up some day...everything I've read says find some old board and practice removing/readding parts on it (ie, a board you wouldn't mind if it got run over)

[04:50:43]

ShockValue:

yeah, i just found a howto guide on the web, and tried to make mine look like hers

[04:50:51]

ShockValue:

mine is ugly, but it works :)

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ShockValue:

the biggest problem i had was that i didnt have anyway to clamp the 2 pieces together while i was soldering them.. so i had to have my wife hold a few wires while i did it ;)

[04:51:36]

ShockValue:

ok, more of a myth(kinda) related question:

[04:52:07]

ShockValue:

I am using ssh X forwarding (ssh -Y 10.1.1.5) form my backend to my frontend to run "mythtv-setup". it seems to load OK, but the fonts are all screwed up

[04:52:33]

ShockValue:

i get a bunxh of squares instead of characters, so i dunno what to put in... any idea what im doin wrong?

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Anduin:

ShockValue: sounds like poor font substitution

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ShockValue:

sounds like it to me too, but how do i fix that?

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robbins876:

i love mythTV, but sometimes i'd like to watch TV while i browse the internet and do other things. what's a good program to do that?

[05:10:55]

hobophobe:

VLC is pretty cool

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robbins876:

is it tough to get setup for TV?

[05:11:36]

hobophobe:

You can use it to watch live, watch recordings, even transcode/stream

[05:12:22]

hobophobe:

It shouldn't be. It doesn't have v4l2 yet, but it's got v4l and PVR support

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GreyFoxx:

robbins876: Why can't you use myth to do that ?

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robbins876:

didn't know i could do that

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pushpop:

does VLC work with firewire?

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robbins876:

i guess i don't want to have to switch from windowed and back in the mythsetup

[05:13:41]

robbins876:

unless there's an easier way to do it, fox

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GreyFoxx:

robbins876: You coulddo it at the commandline

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GreyFoxx:

mythfrontend -O RunFrontendInWindow=1 -geometry 640x480

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nandy_:

perhaps the lamest thing i have ever seen — FC5 installer says it cant read repository data and reboots my machine without giving me a chance to figure out whats wrong

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hobophobe:

pushpop, if I understand how firewire works, you basically get an mpeg stream? If so, yeah, you should definitely be able to pick up that stream and view/transcode/restream/etc.

[05:14:29]

GreyFoxx:

That would run myth in windowed mode at 640x480

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hobophobe:

whoa

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hobophobe:

neat

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pushpop:

thx

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robbins876:

hmm... alright, i'll try that

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robbins876:

is there a way to make that command a shortcut on the desktop or elsewhere, fox?

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GreyFoxx:

I'm sure there is.

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robbins876:

any idea how?

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robbins876:

i don't even know what to google for that

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GreyFoxx:

It would depend 100% on your window manager. I'm sure you can find info on how with google

[05:18:22]

GreyFoxx:

Just go find the docs for yuour window manager

[05:18:32]

GreyFoxx:

there islikely a "how to make a shortcut" section or similar

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robbins876:

hmmm, that was pretty easy

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robbins876:

is there a way to make the window resizeable? or does that have to be done from the command line?

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GreyFoxx:

commandline

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GreyFoxx:

they are not dynamically resizable

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robbins876:

alright

[05:25:42]

robbins876:

this works well enough, i guess

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robbins876:

thanks a bunch

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Dagmar:

If you're having to use -Y with ssh tunneling instead of -X, you're doing something broken that is probably the reasons your fonts don't properly display

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Gimpy:

hey guys, I'm just setting up in a new house, and I am going to give MythTV a shot. The thing is, I don't have a tuner card, so is it nesasary to run the backend? I am going to be streaming all my content from another computer with all the hard drives running FreeNas. I guesse on a grander scale, is Myth right for me?

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robbins876:

you gain a lot of screen going from 17" to 20"

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robbins876:

and 1600x1200 is nice

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robbins876:

i should have done this months, even years ago

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ShockValue:

Captain_Murdoch: you alive tonight?

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Anduin:

Gimpy: The primary purpose of the backend is to handle scheduling a tuner, it actually doesn't stream what it doesn't record (or what you don't import)

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Skaface:

hello

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Skaface:

is anyone else haveing problems compiling 0.20? im getting errors about the diseqc stuff

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Skaface:

../../libs/libmythtv/libmythtv-0.20.so: undefined reference to `DiSEqCDevTree::Execute(DiSEqCDevSettings const&, DVBTuning const&)'../../libs/libmythtv/libmythtv-0.20.so: undefined reference to `DiSEqCDevLNB::GetIntermediateFrequency(DiSEqCDevSettings const&, DVBTuning const&) const'../../libs/libmythtv/libmythtv-0.20.so: undefined reference to `TransportScanItem::TransportScanItem(int, QString const&, QString const&,

[06:16:20]

Skaface:

hmm, that was suppost to be 3 seperate lines

[06:17:46]

nandy_:

is there a reason the howto says to use KDE vs Gnome or is it a preference thing?

[06:17:58]

nandy_:

(mythtv + fedora core howto)

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ShockValue:

KDE is based on QT, and mythtv uses QT libraries, so its a natural fit

[06:20:45]

ShockValue:

but it doesnt really matter, so long as you have the QT libraries installed

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nandy_:

ah

[06:20:52]

nandy_:

thanks

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Dagmar:

nandy_: The QT dependence is being done away with tho. :)

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nandy_:

Dagmar: oh yah in favor of what?

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defaultro:

mchou?

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Skaface:

i cant find any information anywhere about this diseqc problem

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mchou:

defaultro: yeah?

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nandy_:

wow fedora core is really really dumb :(

[06:41:55]

mchou:

nandy_: only if you use the defaults :)

[06:42:01]

nandy_:

the installer i mean

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defaultro:

mchou, it's fixed now

[06:42:14]

mchou:

defaultro: what's fixed?

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nandy_:

its the dumbest installer i have ever seen

[06:42:16]

Dagmar:

nandy_: Drawing everything with OpenGL

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defaultro:

mchou, freakin comcast, they were only providing me at 19db

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nandy_:

Dagmar: nice!

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defaultro:

it was so weak that the card can't get any signal

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nandy_:

Dagmar: whens that due out?

[06:42:39]

Dagmar:

nandy_: "Eventually"

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mchou:

defaultro: umm, 19 dBmV is good

[06:42:55]

Dagmar:

nandy_: The openGL paint engine is in 0.20

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defaultro:

mchou, it said fair in the service menu

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nandy_:

Dagmar: schedules for the win, sir! ;)

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defaultro:

mchou, so I connected my Electroline amplifier which adss +15db. Guess, I was able to scan HD channels

[06:43:33]

nandy_:

i am furious at FC now, meh.

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defaultro:

adds

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Dagmar:

nandy_: s/the/teh/;

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mchou:

defaultro: mine is -3 dBmV downstream, 46 dBmV up

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defaultro:

i might sell my air2pc v2 and buy another

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nandy_:

Dagmar: xchat auto fixes :(

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Dagmar:

OHH! Hahah! I've actually emailed zED to complain about that, too.

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defaultro:

i don't want to put an antenna in my new roof

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defaultro:

I'll just be doing QAM256 again :D

[06:44:59]

defaultro:

maybe sell my air2pc at $99

[06:45:18]

defaultro:

but ouch, I got it at $168

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mchou:

I pity the fools who bought ATSC/QAM cards

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defaultro:

what do you mean?

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nandy_:

has anyone gotten mythtv to work with location free on thier psp?

[06:45:50]

mchou:

I find them useless

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defaultro:

i was very happy with it

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mchou:

comcast STB has been a far better deal for me

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defaultro:

how do you find it useless

[06:46:14]

defaultro:

ah

[06:46:19]

defaultro:

the rental of stb?

[06:46:42]

defaultro:

you don't have to build mythtv, is that what you mean?

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mchou:

at $5/mo that easily can last me 2 yrs before it reaches price of 1 air2pc

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defaultro:

yeah

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defaultro:

sometimes, I think of that as well

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mchou:

not to mention the setup is way easier

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mchou:

and that it wont be obsolete when cablecard becomes "reality"

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defaultro:

yep

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mchou:

which QAM cards will be to just expensive toxic landfill

[06:50:06]

mchou:

there are still some ppl who say QAM cards are better, even when comcast rents a STB at $5

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mchou:

god only knows what they're smoking

[06:51:44]

mchou:

I mean I can understand if cable co charged $10/mo for STB, then QAM card might make sense

[06:52:59]

mchou:

but I sure wont buy any QAM cards b4 CableCARD hits the PC

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mchou:

and it's not even clear to me I'd buy any even afterwards :)

[06:54:15]

mchou:

not unless they let linux "work" with CableCARD QAM cards

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defaultro:

im back

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defaultro:

yep

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defaultro:

i hope that someone will write a driver for the cablecard in linux

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Gumby:

I have a backend server where the mysql server resides as well as where the recordings are stored. my tuner is in the frontend box. Ive run mythtv-setup on the frontend box and it shows up fine but when I try to watch livetv it tells me that the card is not available. anyone have any ideas what I might have done wrong?

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mchou:

Gumby: sigh.....

[07:01:17]

Gumby:

mchou: too vague?

[07:01:34]

mchou:

Gumby: by definition tuners are on be

[07:02:17]

mchou:

Gumby: so "vague" is the least of your problems

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Mattwj2005:

hey guys....anyone in here have cable tv and HDTV at home?

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Gumby:

mchou: well, my situation is that I have a box that is a desktop and it used to be my sole mythbox but since it wasnt that reliable when the kids were on it. I made a second box but its not that powerfull and doesnt have much hard drive space on it either. Is my best option still to have the tuner on the original box then?

[07:03:41]

Skaface:

Mattwj2005: i do

[07:03:51]

Mattwj2005:

awesome quick and easy question for you

[07:03:57]

Skaface:

sure

[07:04:05]

Mattwj2005:

how do you get get the encrypted HDTV channels that you paid for

[07:04:12]

mchou:

lol

[07:04:15]

Skaface:

not sure as im in australia

[07:04:23]

Mattwj2005:

oh dang

[07:04:26]

Mattwj2005:

:-P

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mchou:

Mattwj2005: simple. It's called CableCARD

[07:04:39]

Skaface:

i think youll need to use your set top box

[07:04:44]

Skaface:

plugged into a video input

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jams:

Gumby- what capture card?

[07:04:53]

Gumby:

jams: pvr-150

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Skaface:

thats what i do with my cable TV

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Mattwj2005:

okay I'll have to get that

[07:05:04]

mchou:

Mattwj2005: rent one of those from the cableco

[07:05:04]

Mattwj2005:

thank you :)

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mchou:

Mattwj2005: you also need the cablecos STB most likely

[07:06:15]

Mattwj2005:

yeah I all ready got that....I was just wondering about the movie channels :)

[07:06:18]

jams:

Gumby- it's the space limitation thats going to get you

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Skaface:

just out of interest, what do most mythtv users use to send IR signals to their STB?

[07:06:34]

Gumby:

jams: will an nfs share be adequate?

[07:06:42]

mchou:

Skaface: that's best avoided :)

[07:06:52]

mchou:

Skaface: use firewire or serial

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jams:

Gumby- it works ok for me

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Skaface:

ah ok

[07:07:21]

Mattwj2005:

I bought a SDTV this weekend....I am really happy with it :)

[07:07:24]

jams:

Gumby- just don't use wireless :)

[07:07:28]

Skaface:

i made up a serial IR transmitter board for my cable box

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mchou:

Skaface: and?

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Mattwj2005:

this isn't true HDTV but it is the darn best TV I have ever had

[07:08:16]

Skaface:

sorry, i was just having a conversation

[07:08:26]

jams:

Skaface- I use http://iguanaworks.net/ir/

[07:08:37]

mchou:

Mattwj2005: I dont understand what you mean.....you bought an SDTV?

[07:08:45]

mchou:

Mattwj2005: why?

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mchou:

Mattwj2005: you probably meant EDTV

[07:09:13]

Mattwj2005:

because I wanted a bigger tv, I wanted to easily pick up HDTV channels

[07:09:24]

Mattwj2005:

it says SDTV on it

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mchou:

lol

[07:09:34]

Mattwj2005:

lol

[07:09:43]

mchou:

who the hell would buy an SDTV these days

[07:09:57]

** Mattwj2005 would buy a SDTV these days **

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mchou:

they're obsolete

[07:10:28]

Mattwj2005:

someday I will buy a nice plasma or LCD

[07:10:41]

Mattwj2005:

this is great in the mean time :)

[07:10:56]

mchou:

Skaface: sigh...too bad

[07:11:13]

Klink:

What would make a system slow down and become slow to respond in X...mouse is all jumpy and the heartbeat monitor from lcdproc slow down?

[07:11:23]

mchou:

Skaface: i you know basic electronics you can get one for much less than $30

[07:11:43]

Skaface:

yeah, my transmitter uses about 4 components :P

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Mattwj2005:

hey guys how do I restore a backed up database after upgrading Knoppmyth MythTV 0.19 to 0.20?

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Skaface:

http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-23.html

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Mattwj2005:

thanks :)

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Skaface:

no problem

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Mattwj2005:

yeah it looks like I didn't backup it correctly

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Mattwj2005:

no big deal....I didn't have any recorded programs anyways :)

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Mattwj2005:

you guys are awesome I appreciate your help

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Mattwj2005:

I would buy you guys a beer if you lived closer :)

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jontydog:

http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23718 please will someone have a look here and tell me what I am doing wrong.

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Skaface:

Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost'

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Skaface:

did you set up the database user?

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jontydog:

yes its all set up

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jontydog:

it was running fine on 0.19 and 0.18

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jontydog:

when I run set up or config thats all that happens

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jontydog:

the same with frontend

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jontydog:

and backend

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jontydog:

but if I run backend as root the database opens

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Skaface:

i would try re-doing the username permissions on the database

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Skaface:

hmm

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Dagmar:

This is because you're overlooking the mysql.txt file that both parts need to be able to read so they know not only where the database is, but the password they should use

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jontydog:

if I run the others as root I get mythfrontend: cannot connect to X server :0.0

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jontydog:

ahh

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jontydog:

ok thanks will have a look for that

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Dagmar:

jontydog: it could also be that if you just replaced your Qt your left out the matching mysql plugin for it

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jontydog:

hmm I have 3 files with that name 2 are inaccessible

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jontydog:

sorry 2 files not 3 one is shortcut

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jontydog:

I don't think I have changed qt since it was working

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Dagmar:

There are no "shortcuts" in Linux

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jontydog:

lo again had to reboot because computer froze trying to access mysql.txt

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jontydog:

which folder should the mysql.txt file be in?

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jontydog:

the one in /etc/mythtv/ is inaccessible and won't open

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** Gumby wonders if he is going blind. Is the place to define where the buffer storage path defined in mythtv-setup or not? **

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jontydog:

sorted that problem out it was a permissions thing

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jontydog:

still can't get it running though

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Dagmar:

It needs to be readable by the uids running the frontend and the backend obviously.

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Gumby:

jontydog: /home/username-who-runs-mythtv/.mythtv/mysql.tct

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Gumby:

txt

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jontydog:

ah ok

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jontydog:

that is set right

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jontydog:

all perms ok and user name pass is right and database type

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Gumby:

is the db local or on another box?

[08:08:22]

jontydog:

db is local

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jontydog:

mythtv is still trying to connect with password yes for some reason

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jontydog:

now when I start backend as root I get this

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jontydog:

http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23722

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jontydog:

how do I delete mythconverg and start again?

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Gumby:

drop database mythconverg;

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Dagmar:

mysqladmin -f -u root drop mythconverg

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Dagmar:

...but you probably don't want to do that

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jontydog:

i think its the db that is causing the problem

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Dagmar:

If things are THIS buggered you might as well just flush the entire /var/lib/db directory and starrt it over

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jontydog:

might just do that cos its peeing me right off now

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Dagmar:

The idiom is "pissing me off"

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jontydog:

been at it since yesterday morning

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jontydog:

I know was being polite and not swearing :D

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Gumby:

can anyone remind me where in the setup the buffer path is assigned?

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Dagmar:

jontydog: "piss" is only a swear word in the eyes of Sunday School teachers.

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Gumby:

I thought it was with the same page in mythtv-setup where you set the recordings path but I dont see it there now

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jontydog:

:)

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Dagmar:

Gumby: There's no longer an independent ringbuffer.

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Dagmar:

Didn't you get the memo?

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Gumby:

oh right

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Gumby:

d'oh!

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Dagmar:

:)

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Gumby:

and here is me worrying about it all. hehe

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Dagmar:

I suppose it could be worse.

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Dagmar:

I've seen people try to put it on flash drives

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Gumby:

allthough, I think I might have a good reason why it might be good to have it assigned seperate.

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Dagmar:

O RLY?

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Gumby:

YA RLY! if my recordings dir is an nfs share that might use more network bandwidth than available

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Gumby:

or maybe not, its just a thought

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Dagmar:

Maybe if you're using tin cans and string.

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Gumby:

gah, I hate when the monitor turns off.

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Gumby:

I thought disabling dpms in xorg.conf was supposed to take care of that

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Dagmar:

Here's a hint... If your recordings are stored remotely from the backend over NFS, then if there's not enough bandwidth to make them, then there's probably not going to be enough bandwidth to play them back.

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Dagmar:

...and if you can't play them back, it becomes a mute point, now doesn't it?

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Gumby:

I just dont want the gf bitching about it

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Gumby:

heh

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Dagmar:

Besides which, even at 10base-T speeds you should be okay

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jontydog:

how come mythbackend connects to the db but nothing else will?

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jontydog:

if I run backend as normal user I can't connect to db

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jontydog:

if I run it as root it connects and I get this message now

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jontydog:

No setting found for this machine's BackendServerIP.

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jontydog:

Please run setup on this machine and modify the first page

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jontydog:

of the general settings.

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jontydog:

If I run set up as normal user I get the database error but if I run it as root I get can't connect to xserver

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Dagmar:

Because thing is looking for mysql.txt

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Dagmar:

Look, here's the deal

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Dagmar:

When you run mythtv-setup, it stores a bunch of stuff into the database, but most notably it populates the mysql.txt file with four important bits of data

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Dagmar:

One being the location of the database which needs to be relative to the machine the file is on

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jontydog:

I understand that and the file is there

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jontydog:

and it seems correct

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Dagmar:

Two others being the username and the password to connect to the MySQL database.

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Dagmar:

The fourth just being that QMYSQL3 or whatever is to be used, which is kind of neither here nor there at the moment since it's the ONLY valid setting

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Dagmar:

This file is not a magic mushroom.

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Dagmar:

Stuff has to be able to READ it

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Dagmar:

otherwise when you're starting the backend or the frontend, it just doesn't have a clue where to connect to

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jontydog:

the file has read and write permissions and states the db user name and password

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Dagmar:

There's several places those things look for the file, but notably ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt is one of them

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Dagmar:

It must be readable by the userid of the process

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Dagmar:

Okay, let me put this bluntly... What is the full path to your mysql.txt file

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jontydog:

its in /home/jontydog/.mythtv/

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Dagmar:

for location in /usr/local/share/mythtv /usr/share/mythtv /etc/mythtv /usr/local/etc/mythtv /root/.mythtv; do ls -al $location/mysql.txt 2>/dev/null ; done

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Dagmar:

Kinda the thing

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Dagmar:

OKay, so if you run any of that as the userid 'jontydog' it will work. Everything else, no.

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jontydog:

I am running as jontydog

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Dagmar:

Are you aware that X actually has security to it?

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Dagmar:

I just realized the other silly thing you were saying

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Dagmar:

Under normal circumstances, only the user session that started X is allowed to connect to ir.

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Dagmar:

If you started X with `startx` or whatever as jontydog, or through gdm, then if you su over to root or something, that uid is NOT going to be allowed to connect to the X server

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Dagmar:

This is for your safety. Do not attempt to disengage X security.

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Dagmar:

The backend, of course, does not need to connect to an X server.

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jontydog:

so could the x server be the problem?

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Dagmar:

No.

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Dagmar:

"If I run set up as normal user I get the database error but if I run it as root I get can't connect to xserver"

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Dagmar:

You'd get the database error if it could get that far

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jontydog:

ah with you

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Dagmar:

Mysqld needs to be running or all bets are off with respect to the database

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Dagmar:

Well, since I've broken the hell out of my desktop and still have about three hours before I can leave the office I guess I might as well start work on that "executive overview" on the WIki

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Dagmar:

I just wish there was a good wiki element for drawing flowcharts.

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k-man_:

hello

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k-man_:

are there any known issues in upgrading from .19 to .20 in debian? (marillat)

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fish_:

re

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hd420:

hmph

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** hd420 just smiles. **

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Gimpy:

alo

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octan:

read this.. it so funny --->> http://www.crisscross.com/jp/forum/Worlds_worst_hacker%_IRC_t ranscript/m_422436/tm.htm

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Tronic:

Invalid URL.

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octan:

hmm

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octan:

take out the %

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Tronic:

You have a space between "t" and "ranscript".

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Tronic:

Which effectively makes the link quite difficult to open.

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octan:

_hacker% becomes _hacker try now.

[11:14:51]

octan:

:) read it,, that guy is realt dumb,, i thought no one could get so dumb :)

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Dagmar:

Hmm... looks like ns for crisscross.com took a little nappy

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octan:

hu?

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octan:

lol

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Nerdy:

anyone aroudn

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antiPo5ix:

heres a puzzler for you mythtv whizzes. About 15% of the time my system freezes when changing the volume (with [ and ] ) and only when changing the volume. Where should I look to resolve this?

[11:44:32]

antiPo5ix:

did it both with .19 and .20

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PeterC:

Recently rebooted my mythtv (be/fe) and when trying to start the fe it halts when trying to connect to the lcdserver causing a segmentation fault. I still use 0.19 but it seems that lirc has been updated to 0.8.0–6 recently. The lcdproc is version 0.4.5–1.1. Running Debian Etch.

[11:50:46]

Nerdy:

And now another problem. Just done an update from svn from 0.18 to 0.20 and get these errors constantly

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Nerdy:

QSqlQuery::exec: database not open

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Nerdy:

QSqlQuery::exec: database not open

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Nerdy:

2006-09–17 21:49:22.660 DB Error (KickDatabase):

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Nerdy:

Query was:

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Nerdy:

SELECT NULL;

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Nerdy:

No error type from QSqlError? Strange...

[11:50:52]

Nerdy:

2006-09–17 21:49:22.716 Database not open while trying to load setting: GuiVidModeWidth

[11:50:54]

Nerdy:

2006-09–17 21:49:22.717 Unable to connect to database!

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Nerdy:

2006-09–17 21:49:22.718 Driver error was [1/1045]:

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Nerdy:

QMYSQL3: Unable to connect

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Nerdy:

Database error was:

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drear:

pastebin

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Nerdy:

have I missed some sort of sql update or somthing?

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antiPo5ix:

pastebin? hes the only one talking!

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drear:

or pasting..

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antiPo5ix:

true

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Nerdy:

It has been a while since I have been on IRC and pastebin is new to me. I thought there may have been a little more help in the "Official" user to user support channel. Looks like everyone is asleep

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antiPo5ix:

or hungover

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Nerdy:

just been searching some more. Somone has post to install QT with MYSQL suport.

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drear:

Nerdy, it's just there so that the whole screen won't fill with pastes from the terminal, hence http://www.rafb.net/paste/ etc. are useful.

[12:00:27]

Nerdy:

cheers

[12:02:19]

Nerdy:

Has anyone got more info on installing QT with MYSQL support.

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Honk^away:

USE=qt emerge -av mysql

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Honk^away:

=)

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Nerdy:

lol, where would I use that

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Honk^away:

errh.. other way :P

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drear:

in gentoo

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Honk^away:

=)

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Dagmar:

Sounds like a #Gentoo question to me. :)

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Nerdy:

sorry, Ubuntu

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Honk^away:

=)

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Honk^away:

shouldnt ubuntu come with built in support for that?

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Dagmar:

It should.

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Nerdy:

It was working fine on 0.18, then I updated it via SVN and now getting these errors

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Dagmar:

It, um, helps when the database has been started tho'.

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Nerdy:

stable 0.2 release

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kal_:

hi there

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Dagmar:

Uh huh.

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Dagmar:

You got that from SVN did you?

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Dagmar:

Download the 0.20 tarball.

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Nerdy:

yep

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kal_:

does anybody know in which file upcoming recordings for mythweb are ?

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Dagmar:

...and it's not 0.2.

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Dagmar:

These are not counting numbers. They are a string.

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kal_:

(for mythweb 0.20)

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Dagmar:

MythWeb doesn't record anything.

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Dagmar:

MythWeb is only another type of frontend for the database/backend.

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kal_:

yeah but we can program recordings

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kal_:

and i want to know in wich file these upcoming recording are

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Dagmar:

They don't go into a file.

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kal_:

mysql so ?

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Dagmar:

The database gets told about them, and the backend gets this information from the database.

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kal_:

ok. So wich table is ?

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kal_:

which*

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kal_:

nobody knows ?

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Dagmar:

Looks like no one's answering

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kal_:

yep :/

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kal_:

i've looked in mythconver database, but found nothing interesting

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hashbang:

kal_: it's the record table

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|Torg|:

what are you looking for in the database?

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PeterC:

If I am going to compile the lirc modules is it enough to only download linux-headers or do I also have to download linux-source?

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kal_:

okay thank you hashbang

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kal_:

but even if i delete its content, the upmcoming recordings stays in mythweb

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kal_:

mysql> delete from record;

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kal_:

Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.00 sec)

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kal_:

you see there's nothing here

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kal_:

but theres information about upcoming recording in mythweb

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kal_:

strange

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kal_:

oh

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kal_:

it's ok

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kal_:

it's gone

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hashbang:

suspect recordmatch is part of it too

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kal_:

maybe it was the firefox cache

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kal_:

:)

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paladine:

anyonein here built their own blaster?

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Dagmar:

I'm a little rough on sql but isn't it typically a 'where' component to those kinds of queries?

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Dagmar:

s/it/there/

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Dagmar:

paladine: Unless your time is really, really cheap, it's usually easier just to drop $15–30 on one

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|Torg|:

hey he might hava diaode, redister and ir led just laying arround :)

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aevil:

somegeek, does anyone here managed to get xbmc accepting the myth0.20 upnp server?

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paladine:

should bhe something like delete row from columnname where something = parameter;

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paladine:

Dagmar, it takes like 3 minutes to make one

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Dagmar:

If you ahve the parts already sitting on your desk, and the soldering pencil already heated up.

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Dagmar:

...and the pcboard already prepped.

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paladine:

ok 10 minutes if you include heating the soldering iron

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paladine:

don't need pcboard

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|Torg|:

no need to use a board, you could just do it all in series

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Dagmar:

2 minutes and eight seconds without having to even bother warming up the Visa.

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paladine:

http://jartz.homeip.net:8080/files/ir_blaster.jpg

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paladine:

thats all you need for a serial blaster

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|Torg|:

signal->diode->resitor->led->ground

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Dagmar:

My 2:08 got me a transciever.

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|Torg|:

its a bit shaky, and you are trusing your serial port to be stable, but it works (sorta)

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paladine:

torg you built one?

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|Torg|:

a while back for my tivo's I dont use it anymore

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|Torg|:

there is a much nicer and more stable one somewhere, but I dont hav the schmatic offhand

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|Torg|:

for that you will need 3 leds and some more hardware

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|Torg|:

the diade and rezitor on the one you have works but not all the signal gets thoguh al the time (its flacky serial ports)

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paladine:

just looking for someone to confirm which resistor I need, that diagram J-e-f-f-A made shows a 1000 ohm resistor, but the colour code on the resistor he drew is for a 4.5M not a 1k

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Dagmar:

Damn HD prices are falling faster than i cna buy them

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|Torg|:

there is some varaiabce in the resitor too

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|Torg|:

all its for is so you dont blow the led

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Dagmar:

I was *going* to get a 250Gb WD IDE drive for $67 and now I see the place has Seagate Barracuda 320Gb drives for freakin $94

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|Torg|:

yea Dagmar, my problem now is heat

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paladine:

the parts are gonna cost me a whole 2 bucks

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Dagmar:

Vantec Stealth 80mm and 120mm fans

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|Torg|:

I already have a stealth and 3 case fans

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drear:

i've got couple 320gb barracudas. fine drives for that price.

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paladine:

I have to stop smoking on these pills

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paladine:

the nicotine makes me dizzy

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Dagmar:

What irritates me is that I wait three days before making a purchase online

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Dagmar:

It stops me from becoming close buds with the FedEx guys

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Dagmar:

Seeing that, I have to wait antoher three days

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Dagmar:

I'm running out of disk space!

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|Torg|:

well you could go write some of it to DVD

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Dagmar:

paladine: Didn't they warn you about the greatly increased risk of a heart attack or stroke if you smoke while taking those nicotene pills?

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paladine:

am not taking nicotine pills

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Dagmar:

Oh

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paladine:

am on 60mg of codeine and diazepam every 6 hours

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Dagmar:

Surgery?

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paladine:

no knackered back

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Dagmar:

Ahhh

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|Torg|:

diazepam is a muscle rleaxant, a VERy good one

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paladine:

yeah but it makes you feel like crap and is extremely addictive

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|Torg|:

diazepam, no. Codine yes

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|Torg|:

then again I cant take codine im aleric to opiates

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paladine:

diazepam is incredibly addictive

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paladine:

my doc told me I should be safe only using it for a couple of days but that once you have been on it for 14–20 days it is very very addictive

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|Torg|:

yea I was more considering it compared to codine

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|Torg|:

what did you do to you back?

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paladine:

ripped a muscle at the base of my spine

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paladine:

the swelling it putting pressure on the siatic nerve

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paladine:

yeah it is themix of nicotine and codinethat is making me feel like passing out

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|Torg|:

are you smoking and taking codine?

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paladine:

Iwas Ijust put the cigarette out after like two tokes

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|Torg|:

it will put a heavy load on your liver if you do it

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|Torg|:

your doctor shoudl have warned you about it

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paladine:

he never said anything

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paladine:

but now I have a cold sweat and feel really dizzy

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paladine:

think am gonna have to go lay down

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|Torg|:

well you did screw up your back

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paladine:

feels like the early stages of anafalatic shock

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paladine:

prickly sensation on my skin

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paladine:

shakes

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paladine:

sweats

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paladine:

light headed

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|Torg|:

why dont you call your doctor then

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PeterC:

Is LCDProc 0.5.0 working with kernel 2.6.16-2-k7?

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paladine:

bbl

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RaYmAn-Bx:

PeterC: do you actually expect people to be able to answer that?

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frankrizzo:

after doing a yum -y upgrade in fedora 5 my audio is whacked, its a soundmax chipset best I can tell

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|Torg|:

#define whaked and what does it do/not do

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frankrizzo:

does not produce audio

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|Torg|:

are you sing alsa and oss?

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frankrizzo:

alsa

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|Torg|:

what does /proc/asound/pcm say?

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frankrizzo:

00–01: AD198x Digital : AD198x Digital : playback 1 and 00–00: AD198x Analog : AD198x Analog : playback 1 : capture 1

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|Torg|:

you did look at the mixer and see that it isnt muted and the levels are turned up, right?

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PeterC:

RaYmAn-Bx: Well, yes. Since I recall that there have been discussions about when to stay with LCDProc 0.4.5 and when to switch to 0.5.0. It was also said that this should be fixed for mythtv 0.19–1 or 0.20.

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frankrizzo:

i did, but looking again just to be sure

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|Torg|:

then do an aplay -l and see what is listed as default

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|Torg|:

sorry -L

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frankrizzo:

okay

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|Torg|:

altho -l should give you a more detailed version of what cating out pcm did

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frankrizzo:

I am not sure how to read that output

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|Torg|:

I shoudl probably have asked how you connect you sound card and to what as well

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frankrizzo:

analog

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frankrizzo:

just the 1/8 plug, my digital card hasnt come in yet

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frankrizzo:

into a receiver

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|Torg|:

try using aplay to play a wav file, see if it produces output

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frankrizzo:

aplay

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frankrizzo:

whoops, wrong keyboard

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|Torg|:

and you should be using hw0,0 for your sound, I dont have a AD198x but every other card I hve put their analog DAC on 0,0

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frankrizzo:

thats what it looks like I have from the output I gave you before, right?

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|Torg|:

aplay -l shoudl hve dumped a bunch of pcm defenitions at you

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|Torg|:

there all called pcm.something

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|Torg|:

dpends on your card, and its chip tho. there shuld be one simply called default

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|Torg|:

in the defention its called pcm.!default, aplay -L will just show default

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|Torg|:

without it, or with an incorrect defautl entry you ahve to specifcy to alsa which part of the card to use

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frankrizzo:

deault 'cards.pcm.default" is the closet thing I see

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|Torg|:

what is that tied to?

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frankrizzo:

doesnt say that I can tell

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frankrizzo:

aplay doesnt appeared to be installed

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|Torg|:

do you ahve mplayer installed?

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frankrizzo:

yeah, but it wont load

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|Torg|:

what happens when it does, ie what error does it give you?

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frankrizzo:

this is interesting, in kmix I see the capture slider under the input tab

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frankrizzo:

I keep setting it up high

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frankrizzo:

and when I close out, and go back in, its all the way down

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frankrizzo:

I dont know if that means anything

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|Torg|:

you want output not input altho it shouldnt effect it, the lowe ends cards often have bleadover

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frankrizzo:

when I try and load it, I see a window flash up really quickly, but then nothing

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frankrizzo:

not even an error

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|Torg|:

go to a shell and run it, it should give you an error

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frankrizzo:

okay, just gotta find a wav file to point it to

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frankrizzo:

otherwise it wont load it says

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|Torg|:

try /usr/share/sounds

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frankrizzo:

okay, that worked

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frankrizzo:

I can hear sounds this way

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|Torg|:

ok what switches did you give to mplayer

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frankrizzo:

just mplayer and the location of the wav file

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|Torg|:

if you can do it without using -ao or -ac then myth should work

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|Torg|:

and make sure you do it with the mythtv user, not root

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frankrizzo:

works as the myth user

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frankrizzo:

I just went back into myth tv and I get no audio

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|Torg|:

ok now try mythtv, you did set the uadio to /dev/dsp right?

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|Torg|:

you dont have ac3 passthough checked, you arnt agressive buffering?

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frankrizzo:

i dont know about the /dev/dsp part

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frankrizzo:

is that under the same setup page with ac3 passthrough?

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|Torg|:

yes, right above it in fact

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frankrizzo:

ok, one second. I wont asume anything at this point and will check

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|Torg|:

also check the mixer controls while your there

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frankrizzo:

is this mythtv-setup

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frankrizzo:

or just under the myth frontend ?

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|Torg|:

actualy its in playback setup of the frontend

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frankrizzo:

audio output is /dev/adsp

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frankrizzo:

no ac3, no aggressive

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|Torg|:

adsp is your alternate dsp, try setting it to just /dev/dsp

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frankrizzo:

ok

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frankrizzo:

do I need to restart anything for this to take effect?

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|Torg|:

jsut restart whatever video you were watching

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frankrizzo:

went to watch live tv

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frankrizzo:

no audio

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|Torg|:

then im at a aloss, if mplayer can play audio, alsa is working

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|Torg|:

I dont know why myth would not tho

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frankrizzo:

could that go back to that capture option, as the audio is somewhat of an input when it gets recorded along with the video?

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|Torg|:

capture is for the inputs to the sound card, usualy a mic and line in

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|Torg|:

some card have capture for toehr things and some have shared capture ports

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frankrizzo:

okay, cuz there is lin, cd, mix, aux, mono, and capture

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|Torg|:

but capture and playback are two very distivve modes for any sound card (they are in fact DAC vs ADC)

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|Torg|:

capture is *SUPOSED* to be seperate from playback but I have a soundblaster that gets distorted when I turn up the capture on it

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frankrizzo:

i understand that, but isnt the audio getting captured first, then played back?

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|Torg|:

no its getting fead in digially, then converted to analog wavefroms (ala a Digial to Analog Controler, DAC)

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frankrizzo:

oh, okay

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|Torg|:

the reverse is to take an analog wave form (like a microphone) and run it though a analog to digial converter (ADC)

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|Torg|:

there simplair but reversed in order

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|Torg|:

the end come though the bus to whatever was reading it

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galorin:

I'm able to tune into/recieve every channel so far, except ITV4. I'm not sure what to look for, but when I try to tune in, all I get is a black screen, and it takes a few key presses to come out of that.

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|Torg|:

its why I think spending more then $30 on an HD AC3 sound card is silly

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frankrizzo:

not even dvd audio works in myth

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frankrizzo:

this is weird...

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frankrizzo:

my digital card is like 15 bucks

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frankrizzo:

just an add in on the motherboard

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frankrizzo:

once I get it

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|Torg|:

DVD adio is usualy encoded to a dolby standard like DD or DTS

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|Torg|:

you have to be able to convert those, and then render them

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|Torg|:

some cards can, some recivers can, most do it by software

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frankrizzo:

all of this was working before I did the upgrade

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|Torg|:

what did you upgrade?

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frankrizzo:

I was trying to fix jitter / choppyness

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_mac:

hi

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frankrizzo:

did a yum -y upgrade

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frankrizzo:

then did one for audio

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frankrizzo:

then for video

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frankrizzo:

# yum -y install alsa-kmdl-$KVER

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frankrizzo:

# yum -y install alsa-driver

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frankrizzo:

for audio

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_mac:

Does anyone know what the message for the via driver in xorg*.log "DRM memory allocation failed" mean?

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|Torg|:

galorin go read your /home/mythtv/.xsession-errors file and see what it tells you

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|Torg|:

yes _mac is has nothign to do with your audio and everything to do with yoru video card

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_mac:

|Torg|: it seems there is not enough memory to display a xvmc video with that resolution

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_mac:

(but the video card is onboard)

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|Torg|:

DRM is direct rendering mode and requires yoru kernela have drm capabilitues and your card can read them

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_mac:

So its not digial right management ;) Good.

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|Torg|:

having your card onboard is no differnt (otehr then you cant change it) then pluggin in one to the bus

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_mac:

|Torg|: is there anything I can do to tweak it?

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|Torg|:

make sure you load DRI

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_mac:

Load "dri"

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_mac:

I got that in xorg.conf

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|Torg|:

go read X --verbose 5 and see what it says about direct rendering

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|Torg|:

it may simply be your card or it may be you dont hve it comepiled into yoru kernel

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_mac:

|Torg|: how do I start X with verbose mode? Hmm.. edit the init script?

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|Torg|:

here, go read http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/DRM

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_mac:

Thanks

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|Torg|:

shut down the X server, by gdm or whatever, ssh or being up a console to the box, and simply type X --verbose

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_mac:

thanks

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|Torg|:

put a number after verbose to how verbose you want it to be, 5 is the highest

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galorin:

|Torg|, I'm going to need to clear my .xsession-errors file and duplicate the error later today when ITV4 is back on air.. I can't make sense of what's in there... 1.5MB worth of text is a lot to read through

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|Torg|:

yes galrion is sounds simply like you cant tune in that station

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galorin:

so.. how would I fix that? Sorry

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|Torg|:

I dunno move your antenna :)

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galorin:

there's a few things I want to record on there.. already missed Wicker Man

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_mac:

|Torg|: I still need to start gnome with X, otherwise I can't debug anything worthwhile..

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_mac:

got it

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galorin:

Tried that, but planning on getting a new one soon anyhow.

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|Torg|:

no mac yoiur not running a debug of the window manager, just the X server. You dont need nor want gnome

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_mac:

|Torg|: how do I start mythtv then? there is no desktop shell

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r10:

hi

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|Torg|:

mac your not going to start myth, not the window manager, not xterm, not anything BUT X

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_mac:

|Torg|: Oh.

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r10:

what do I need to do to be able to compile the mythplugins-0.20 plugin ? I get: "main.cpp:264: error: `GetMythMainWindow' was not declared in this scop"

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|Torg|:

and if you wanted you could start mythfrontend without a window manger simply by typing mythfrontend and haveing your DISPLAY variable set to the X server that is runnign and you can access

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acm-:

if i have analog ntsc does it make any sense to record at higher than 480x480?

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_mac:

|Torg|: How does just starting X help me debug this drm memory issue? Because it just happens when I try to play a video

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acm-:

i dont know the resolution for ntsc

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galorin:

r10 sounds like what I did, did you run make install after you compiled mythtv-0.20?

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|Torg|:

becase mac you are hanign problems with direct rendoring, X will show you errors that will tell you (hopefully) why it fails

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frankrizzo:

torg, I may have found something. When looking at the terminal after running mythfrontend, it says "disabling audio, reason is WARNING, something is currently using: /dev/dsp, retrying"

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r10:

galorin: I thing so, I installe it via emerge (on gentoo)

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|Torg|:

AHHHHH, frank go read the other proceses, see what else is running

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_mac:

Okay, um.

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_mac:

Let me look in the logfile

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frankrizzo:

ps -aux?

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|Torg|:

sure

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|Torg|:

fax, aux, ef, whatever you like :)

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galorin:

r10, gentoo aint my strong point, never did get the hang of the whole emerge system.. prefer ether pre-compiled or to compile it all myself,.. might try installing from source without using emerge.

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frankrizzo:

well, aplay is running

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frankrizzo:

um, not really sure what else I would be looking for. Most things seem to be system related like /bin/bash

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|Torg|:

I thought you didnt have aplay :), go kill it and why is it running?

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frankrizzo:

cuz I typed the command

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frankrizzo:

i guess I might have had it, but it didnt do anything

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r10:

galorin: okay

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braddddd:

morning gang

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braddddd:

i have a silly question that i hope you guys can help me with. I have multiple stb's in the same room, but each remote controls everyone simultaneously

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_mac:

|Torg|: what am I looking for? I can't seem to find anything wrong with the logfile

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braddddd:

can someone point me in the right direction of how to seperate out the remotes

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frankrizzo:

IT WORKS!!

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|Torg|:

_mac: you aare loooing for DRI errors in startup

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frankrizzo:

it must have been the dev/dsp though

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frankrizzo:

because I had restarted many times

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frankrizzo:

and aplay would not have been still running

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frankrizzo:

or rather, running those other times period

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|Torg|:

a wild ass guess is you had a driver that was faking outputs to the alternate before

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_mac:

|Torg|: I do not find any initalisation errors.. remember, it just fails to allocate memory when I try to play back some video

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|Torg|:

hahah that *IS* the error

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_mac:

Yes

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_mac:

Of course it is

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_mac:

:)

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_mac:

But it doesnt help me when I look at the startup log

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|Torg|:

does it tell you why it failed?

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_mac:

just "DRM memory allocation failed"

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_mac:

I also tried it with --verbose

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_mac:

No more info

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frankrizzo:

thanks torg, now I can go back to troubleshooting jitter / choppyness. Ive improved it without asking for help as I am trying to learn how to do this

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frankrizzo:

hit a wall with the sound though

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|Torg|:

unfortuanly that can be allot of things. most are related to video drivers

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enyc:

_mac: DRM (Direct Rendering Manager) is problem ;-)

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_mac:

enyc: I know that by now :)

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octan:

does this look like a ok init script for my mythbackend ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23756

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_mac:

|Torg|: installing a newer version might be worht a try, right?

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|Torg|:

frankrizzo I dont blame you out of everythig I do, soundards are a pain in the ass

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enyc:

_mac: what video card? (see "lspci")

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|Torg|:

_mac, a fixed verison yes, newer or not

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frankrizzo:

oh, and my darn guide if off like 3 channels across the board

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frankrizzo:

oh well, i have all day, its sunday

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_mac:

0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8623 [Apollo CLE266] integrated CastleRock graphics (rev 03)

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_mac:

thats the onboard video card

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|Torg|:

oh and dont feal too bad I woke up today and thought it was Monday :)

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frankrizzo:

haha

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frankrizzo:

good thing it wasnt

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Sebulba02:

and I thought I've had bad mornings, but I haven't done that before.

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frankrizzo:

i think I need to get football on here, that was the best for seeing if there were video problems

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frankrizzo:

its harder with the morning talkshows

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enyc:

_mac: right... Via CLE266 (EPIA VIA M iirc)

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_mac:

enyc: yep, thats exactly it. the weird thing is that it used to work a week ago.. it could allocate memory for 720x576

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enyc:

_mac: right... 720x576 PAL DVB-T etc.

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_mac:

enyc: That's pal, yeah. I am trying a new via driver from their website now

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enyc:

_mac: okay.... so what mode are you trying now? whats changed in the mean-time?

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_mac:

enyc: I installed myth 0.20. That's all I can remember. I also reinstalled the box in the mean time

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enyc:

_mac: I see

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_mac:

(because of the same issue, didnt really help) .. until I discovered it worked with lower resolutions

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frankrizzo:

what should I be using for NTSC?

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|Torg|:

well I woke up this mornign at 6AM and printed my itinerary, coudlnt figure out why may laptop said it was Sunday, so I looked at my deksop. It too said Sunday so I thguth ntp was screwed up, I cheched two toehr systems and conclcuded I must be worng and today is really Sunday!

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frankrizzo:

for resolution

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enyc:

_mac: mythtv 0.20 is quite new.... so i wouldnt be suprised if it has problems ;-)

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frankrizzo:

haha, traveling this week?

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_mac:

enyc: Yeah, for sure. But, in this case it seems to be a via problem

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enyc:

frankrizzo: I thought they used 720x480 but I could be wrong

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|Torg|:

yea *tomorow* I go to New Orleans

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_mac:

Hmm.. the via driver is provided with source.. is that the "full" version or some weird limited version?

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frankrizzo:

what you doing down there?

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|Torg|:

moving a data center

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frankrizzo:

the guy who wrote the guide I used must have been from europe

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enyc:

|Torg|: coo... erm... btw... person at work did indeed have problems with EDID

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|Torg|:

or more exact, taking to some people about moving their data center

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|Torg|:

so enyc did you fix it?

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enyc:

|Torg|: seemingly the EDID was giving the wrong information (max. 77kHz / 75hz or something)

[13:46:14]

enyc:

|Torg|: well the instructions you gave me had an error ;-)

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|Torg|:

yea I had to override mine, it was in the extneded portion

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frankrizzo:

you freelance or work for a company?

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enyc:

|Torg|: iirc you said --verbose when X needs -verbose actually ;-)

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|Torg|:

im a enginner for a large computer company

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|Torg|:

OOPS I jsut told mac the same thing

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|Torg|:

I screw that up all the time, sorry

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_mac:

|Torg|: no problem, I dealed with it

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enyc:

|Torg|: using the "UseEDID false" or whatever it was .. cured the problem ;-)

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frankrizzo:

does the following commands set the capture rate?

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frankrizzo:

# /usr/bin/ivtvctl -u 0x3000

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frankrizzo:

# /usr/bin/ivtvctl -p 4

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frankrizzo:

# /usr/bin/ivtvctl -f width=720,height=480

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|Torg|:

there are some other switches I use to just tell it not to use the refresh

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frankrizzo:

I would be interested in those, because I think thats what some of my problems are

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enyc:

|Torg|: hence got both nvidia driving both iiyama's at 1280x1024 85hz as it should

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|Torg|:

I had to add Option "ModeValidation" "AllowNon60HzDFPModes,NoVertRefreshCheck"

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|Torg|:

and "UseEdidDpi" "FALSE"

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|Torg|:

my X server would deny the non 60Hz modes

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frankrizzo:

do you have a good tv?

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|Torg|:

define good :)

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frankrizzo:

not crappy

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|Torg|:

its a 61" DLP

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frankrizzo:

ive got a 27 inch samsung w/o svideo

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|Torg|:

it dotn hav an ATSC tuner, umm its speakers suck

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** _mac tries to get a via xorg driver from dri.freedesktop.org **

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|Torg|:

the picire is real nice tho :)

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frankrizzo:

i bet

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|Torg|:

it does 1080I by a non standard def (is there a standard?) so my X would deny the 1080i resoltuins untill I told X to stop checking

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|Torg|:

it was reporitn the EDID just not using it

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|Torg|:

not the exact problem enyc had, but close

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frankrizzo:

oh, okay, so you HAD to use those to get it to even display

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|Torg|:

to disply 1080i, yes

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frankrizzo:

they probably wouldnt help my situation

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frankrizzo:

then

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|Torg|:

whats wrong with yours?

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frankrizzo:

just a little jittery

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frankrizzo:

almost like a couple frames get dropped

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|Torg|:

doe sit do it on live TV and recorded TV?

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frankrizzo:

Ive only tried live, havnt recorded anything yet

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frankrizzo:

it was choppy on dvds too though

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|Torg|:

it may be your inptu, but I doubt it

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|Torg|:

do you deinterlace your video?

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|Torg|:

even if I cant spell it :P

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frankrizzo:

thats set from the menu while watching tv in the front end

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frankrizzo:

right?

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babalu:

can anyone give any advice on having multiple set top boxes in the same room.. unfortunately each remote controls every box simultaneously

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|Torg|:

its on the output options again

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frankrizzo:

under that setup screen?

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frankrizzo:

cuz while watching tv, i hit menu, go to video scan

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|Torg|:

under playback I believe

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frankrizzo:

and i see, detect, progressive, interlaced normal and reverse

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frankrizzo:

let me check that out

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frankrizzo:

okay, i see

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|Torg|:

jittering can come from playing interlaced video on an progressive output or vice versa

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frankrizzo:

deinterlace playback is checked

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|Torg|:

what method do you use?

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frankrizzo:

of mpeg2 decoder?

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frankrizzo:

libmpeg2

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|Torg|:

ouch, what deinterlace method do you use?

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frankrizzo:

i dont see options for that

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frankrizzo:

its just checked

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|Torg|:

next to the checkbox there is a method type, can be set to kernel, bob, linear, etc

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frankrizzo:

ohh, it says algorithum

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frankrizzo:

its set to linear blend

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|Torg|:

well you have the slowest mpeg2 decoder and the slowest deinterlacer checked

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frankrizzo:

haha

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frankrizzo:

wonderful

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|Torg|:

think that may be an issue?

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frankrizzo:

couldnt be....maybe I should load mplay

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frankrizzo:

might solve all my problems

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|Torg|:

you can use mplayer to play live TV instead?

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_mac:

Ok, shit. Still same problem. Still no memory. :/

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frankrizzo:

no idea, i was kidding around

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|Torg|:

oh if you could I was gona make you my hero :)

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_mac:

DRM memory allocation failed

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_mac:

(EE) VIA(0): [Xv] Port 0: Not enough resources to complete the request. Probably out of memory.

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|Torg|:

why myth didnt just use mplayer I dunno

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frankrizzo:

it was making audio a pain in the ass

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frankrizzo:

earlier

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frankrizzo:

so i threw it in just now for jokes

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|Torg|:

yes well it makes my video a pain in the ass, currently

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|Torg|:

I get desynchs

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frankrizzo:

what algorithum and decoder would you reccomend?

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frankrizzo:

its a 3000 sempron am2 w/ 1 gig of ram

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|Torg|:

I use kernel and MV

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frankrizzo:

hmm, i dont have MV

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|Torg|:

what video card do you use?

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frankrizzo:

i have standard XvMC, VIA XvMC, standard, libmpeg2

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_mac:

Hmm.. this out of memory error.. it means the VIDEO CARD has no memory left for this mode, right?

[14:01:01]

frankrizzo:

onboard

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frankrizzo:

http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?l1=3&l . . . ;modelmenu=1

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frankrizzo:

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frankrizzo:

so whatever that includes

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|Torg|:

it should do xvmv just fine

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_mac:

enyc: is there any way to "give" the via driver more memory? As far as I know, it takes its memory from ram

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frankrizzo:

cool, how about the enabled opengl vertical sync for timing, leave unchecked?

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|Torg|:

I have to use mine, or it gets desynced like crazy

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enyc:

_mac: that might be a BIOS setup option...

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_mac:

enyc: very good point. I'll try that

[14:03:24]

enyc:

_mac: something like vga shared memory size'

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enyc:

_mac: or maybe not... i havent used a CLE266 etc.

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|Torg|:

Im trying to fix "Video sync method can't support double framerate" now

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enyc:

_mac: |Torg| where/how is that happening?

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frankrizzo:

i think that added some jitter

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frankrizzo:

the changes I just made

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enyc:

|Torg|: where/how is that happening? (what nsymptomns)

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_mac:

enyc: the error I am getting is:

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_mac:

DRM memory allocation failed

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_mac:

(EE) VIA(0): [Xv] Port 0: Not enough resources to complete the request. Probably out of memory.

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_mac:

the logical choice of option is to give it more mem

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|Torg|:

enyc when I play a recorded video at 1080I with AC3 (most of what I record)

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enyc:

|Torg|: U see... interlacing issue??

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lizz:

si parla italiano?

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|Torg|:

interlacinv the video, no, just the sync

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|Torg|:

video is fine

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lizz:

excuse me

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|Torg|:

006-09–17 09:05:20.460 AFD: Opened codec 0x841a9a0, id(MPEG2VIDEO) type(Video)

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lizz:

i have i question

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|Torg|:

006-09–17 09:05:20.461 AFD: Opened codec 0x8b7e1b0, id(AC3) type(Audio)

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|Torg|:

workes and reders video fine, in fact its freat

[14:07:39]

lizz:

mythtv is compatible with vdr?

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|Torg|:

sound is desynced about .5 seocnds tho

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enyc:

lizz: differetn projects entirely... asking if they are 'compatible' does not make sense alone to me...

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|Torg|:

lizz non parlo italiano

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|Torg|:

and that is about all the Italian I do know :)

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_mac:

Oookkay.

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_mac:

now it has 64mb memory instead of 16mb!

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enyc:

_mac: bios option?

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_mac:

enyc: indeed.

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enyc:

_mac: that is a lot of ram for a framebuffer output !

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_mac:

enyc: well, yeah .. the box has 512mbof ram

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_mac:

more than enough for it

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enyc:

_mac: so far as I can tell... you can fit 5 frames of 1024x768 32bit in 16mb

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lizz:

enyc, i have a ss2 it's possible usage with mythtv?

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enyc:

lizz: I dont know what a 'ss2' is

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|Torg|:

what is an ss2?

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|Torg|:

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** |Torg| can sorta speak spanish tho :) **

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lizz:

skyster

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lizz:

skystar

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lizz:

00:0c.0 Network controller: Techsan Electronics Co Ltd B2C2 FlexCopII DVB chip / Technisat SkyStar2 DVB card (rev 02)

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jemarcks:

is there a safe way to shutdown the mythbackend process if you need to run mythsetup again?

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|Torg|:

yes, lizz I use two of them

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_mac:

bleh.. still no luck .. even with increased memory

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|Torg|:

the DVB-T version not the sat ones tho

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_mac:

Same error

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enyc:

_mac: hrrm i didnt think 16mb was a problem... something else is an issue ;-)

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|Torg|:

try /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend stop

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_mac:

enyc: got an idea?

[14:16:16]

lizz:

|Torg|, give me a guide for mythtv because i don't work

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lizz:

i have installed mythtv

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|Torg|:

000:00:0d.0 Network controller: Techsan Electronics Co Ltd B2C2 FlexCopII DVB chip / Technisat SkyStar2 DVB card (rev 02)

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_mac:

lizz: the WIKI is very nice

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lizz:

noo

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lizz:

difficulty

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frankrizzo:

if you are using fedora the following guide was great

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|Torg|:

lizz do you have frimware?

[14:17:07]

frankrizzo:

http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php

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frankrizzo:

really walked me through almost every step

[14:19:14]

lizz:

|Torg|, firmware for what?

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|Torg|:

lizz do you have /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/dvb-fe-bcm3510–01.fw

[14:19:26]

|Torg|:

you MUST load firmware to use the card

[14:19:29]

lizz:

frankrizzo, i use a archlinux

[14:20:02]

|Torg|:

depending on your linux distribution your firmware may be in a siffernt location, regardless you still hav to have it

[14:20:20]

|Torg|:

lizz type dmesg | grep b2c2 and see if it loaded

[14:20:41]

lizz:

b2c2-flexcop: B2C2 FlexcopII/II(b)/III digital TV receiver chip loaded successfully

[14:20:42]

lizz:

b2c2-flexcop: MAC address = 00:d0:d7:06:5d:de

[14:20:42]

lizz: