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Saturday, September 16th, 2006, 00:00 UTC

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ender224455:

if my CPU is unseated, can that cause kernal panics during boot, or would the computer refuse to even start? (BIOS works fine)

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kormoc:

ender224455, there's a small chance that can happen, so if it's suspected, might as well give it a shot

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paladine:

cpu shouldn't be able to be unseated

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paladine:

thats why they have locking arms on the socket

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kormoc:

paladine, locking arms won't lock in pins that aren't seated correctly

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ender224455:

I just changed my CPU fan, and my computer is going nuts. I've taken out every card, keeping just the essentials, and booted off two different boot cd's. I keep getting kernal panics (different error each time)

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kormoc:

the newer sockets like the lga 775, yeah, you can't have it seated wrong, but you still can bend pins which will cause it to not work right

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paladine:

I'd be concerned if my cpu became unseated

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kormoc:

ender224455, it could also be heat related, if the heatsink lost contact with the core

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ender224455:

kormoc: I checked the PC health status, and its at 60 C

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ender224455:

which is typical for an AMD XP

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ender224455:

unless it cools down a lot within the 20 seconds between crash and reboot

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kormoc:

it might

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kormoc:

if you're out of other things, it's worth a check

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paladine:

bwahahaha ncis at 5400kb/s :)

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ender224455:

is it possible that I nicked some tiny metal thing when I was putting in the fan...?

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ender224455:

would that cause kernal panics

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ender224455:

like if I messed up one of the metal connectors

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kormoc:

Sure could

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kormoc:

or if you knocked off a surface mount resistor

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paladine:

naaah if damaged one of the tracks or capacitors putting the h/s and fan on it would be f*cked

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kormoc:

or scratched a lead on the motherboard

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ender224455:

so if I scratched a lead it would start to boot and then fail?

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kormoc:

paladine, a steady hand and a ok soldering iron and it can be fixed

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ender224455:

rather than not boot at all?

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kormoc:

it *could*

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paladine:

yeah but I mean before repair, it would be f*cked

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ender224455:

paladine: would it refuse to do anything, or would it start to boot and then panic?

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paladine:

a track either allows a current or doesn't

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paladine:

it doesn't allow a smaller current cos of a scratch :)

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ender224455:

so... it wouldn't even try to start?

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paladine:

exactly

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paladine:

it is more likely you have heat issues

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ender224455:

well, at least I can fix that

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paladine:

did you clean the old compound of the cpu before you put the new stuff on?

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ender224455:

I used a paper towel to get some of it, there was some left though

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kormoc:

not always

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ender224455:

I'll redo it

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kormoc:

depending on how thin the scratch is

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paladine:

got any rubbing alcohol?

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ender224455:

possibly... I also have some vodka

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kormoc:

it can just have some nasty side effects

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kormoc:

vodka isn't pure alcohol, won't work right

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kormoc:

(meaning at the very least, it's watered down alcohol)

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ender224455:

alright, I'm going to try reseating the fan, thanks

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ender224455:

I'll be back in 20...

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J-e-f-f-A:

Hi guys...

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J-e-f-f-A:

(and possibly gals too...)

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paladine:

heya J-e-f-f-A :)

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J-e-f-f-A:

paladine: How's it going? Did you make the jump to .20 yet? ;-) (I didn't yet...)

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paladine:

yeah

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J-e-f-f-A:

How do you like it so far?

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paladine:

upgraded from bttv to pvr150 too

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J-e-f-f-A:

paladine: Yeah, that's a big upgrade IMHO! ;-)

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Dagmar:

Truly

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paladine:

I love mythtv, I am having a an issue with prebuffer cos I am not using a grabber but apart from that it rocks

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Dagmar:

It only take a few days of using a pvr card to begin to wonder why you ever put up with framegrabbing

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paladine:

well I was only using bt878 for a few days, it was a temp solution til my card arrived

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J-e-f-f-A:

paladine: How fast is your cpu? Is it a combined FE/BE?

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paladine:

amd64 3700+ san diego

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paladine:

fe/be?

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mkrufky:

framegrabbers have less cpu load when watching tv with a non-pvr type app

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J-e-f-f-A:

paladine: Umm... I see no reason for 'prebuffer' issues then... I can use the frontend (FE) on my backend (BE), and it's only a Dual PIII 866...

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paladine:

J-e-f-f-A, its cos I am using an external tuner we think

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J-e-f-f-A:

mkrufky: That's because they're just pushing the video to an overlay level... no processing at all by the cpu...

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paladine:

my feed is coming in through svideo

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paladine:

so mythtv automatically starts a new file every 30 minutes

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mkrufky:

J-e-f-f-A: not with all ..... only bttv and saa7134 support overlay

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mkrufky:

but yes, no processing by the cpu for framegrabbers

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J-e-f-f-A:

paladine: I don't think that's the issue. My BE has 3 tuners – A PVR-250 and a PVR-500, all fed via svideo from dish sat tuners. Plus a HD3000... No buffer issues here! (And only 512mb ram)

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paladine:

J-e-f-f-A, it is fine when I am in manual record mode

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paladine:

only causing problems in livetv mode

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paladine:

even in livetv mode it continues to record to file, just the front end freezes

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J-e-f-f-A:

paladine: Strange. Did you check to make sure that DMA is enabled?

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paladine:

no how do i do that?

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Dagmar:

Um... no it doesn't start a new file every 30 minutes

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paladine:

dagmar, mine does

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J-e-f-f-A:

paladine: One sec... I'll find it ...

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Dagmar:

What version of MySQL are you using?"

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paladine:

5

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halcyon:

hdparm

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Dagmar:

With 0.19 I'm guessing

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paladine:

.20

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Dagmar:

Hmm... Still shouldn't be doing tat

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Dagmar:

Livetv recordings only change to new files as shows change

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Dagmar:

If you're watching a bunch of half-hour sitcoms it might do that, but otherwise no

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halcyon:

if you have guide data

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paladine:

yes but according to sphery if you have "No Grabber" set it automatically does a "show change" aevery 30 minutes

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J-e-f-f-A:

paladine: Ok, so that's what you mean by 'no grabber'....

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J-e-f-f-A:

paladine: You didn't setup zap2it (if your in the us?)

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paladine:

no I am in the UK

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paladine:

and I chose no grabber cos thereis no way for myth to determine what channel I am actually watching

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J-e-f-f-A:

paladine: Ok, sombody on that side of the ocean will have to help you setup that then... I'm in Boston... ;-)

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J-e-f-f-A:

pal

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J-e-f-f-A:

paladine: Did you setup the IR blaster yet?

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paladine:

well it is pointless me setting up a grabber because the channels are controlled from the stb

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paladine:

nope not yet

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paladine:

once I have ir blaster working I will setup the guide

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Anduin:

paladine: Many people use a grabber with Sky

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J-e-f-f-A:

paladine: That's your problem then — you need to get your IR blaster setup & working, then get your guide data for your provider.

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halcyon:

so no program guide data is causing prebuffer pauses?

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paladine:

I have lirc installed but I am having issues figuring it out

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J-e-f-f-A:

paladine: And you think Myth is great now — wait until you get it setup right!

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paladine:

yeah I am looking forward to it

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J-e-f-f-A:

halcyon: It seems that since he doesn't have any guide data, myth is 'chopping' the livetv recordings into 1/2 hour pieces.

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halcyon:

it is, indeed

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halcyon:

but why do those cause prebuffer pauses, seemingly randomly, not every 30 minutes?

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paladine:

it isn't doing it -every- 30 minutes but it is doing it on the 00 or 30 when it happens

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paladine:

its only happening after a "show change"

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halcyon:

which is divisbile by "half an hour" so it's random, from what you've seen

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paladine:

longest I have gone so far without it happening is 90 minutes

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halcyon:

which would be either 00 or 30

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J-e-f-f-A:

paladine: Probably because the sync changes... And the PVR card has to re-sync. That would cause it...

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paladine:

J-e-f-f-A, http://pastebin.ca/171786

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J-e-f-f-A:

paladine: So what you need is to setup lirc to work with your STB, then get the guide data and use a channel-change script to change the channels on your stb.

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halcyon:

so you can get prebuffer pauses that correspond to show changes

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paladine:

J-e-f-f-A, unfortunately that won't happen til next week at the earliest cos themeds I am on at the moment make it very difficult to do any real thinking

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J-e-f-f-A:

paladine: (pastebin) – yeah, that would get annoying.

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halcyon:

J-e-f-f-A: we've been at paladine's problem all day :D

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paladine:

theodd thing is that it continues to record the data

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paladine:

just the frontend freezes

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paladine:

I have to quit out of livetv mode then go back in

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paladine:

which of course ends up splitting the recording

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** J-e-f-f-A thinks he'll hold off on .20 for another week or two... **

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paladine:

yeah halcyon and sphery have been very patient and helpful today :)

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pushpop:

Question, I change the location of my mp3's and mythweb is showing them under the old location and when I click on the mp3 I get page no displayed how do I correct this?

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** J-e-f-f-A (although he doesn't watch LIVE tv anymore!) **

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paladine:

sphery was talking to one of the devs about it earlier so I know itis being looked into

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J-e-f-f-A:

pushpop: Probably just have to go to the setup and re-scan for them.

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paladine:

he thinks maybe something was missing from the patch

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pushpop:

J-e-f-f-A: tried that with no luck

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pushpop:

myth web wont pick up the new location

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halcyon:

Your setup paladine is pretty normal, I'd think... not sure why it's giving you problems :D

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J-e-f-f-A:

pushpop: Do they show up in the Frontend audio player properly?

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Honk^away:

what's the difference between a the hauppauge pvr 150 mce and the 250 mce? =)

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sphing:

has anyone gotten via firewire to work in myth?

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J-e-f-f-A:

Honk^away: The 150's newer, and iirc has slightly better quality. It's also avaliable in the low form-factor. The 250's older, and still a great card. I have one of each... 150, 250, 350 and 500... ;-)

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Honk^away:

heh =)

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paladine:

J-e-f-f-A has too much disposable income :p

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sphing:

anyone have a dct6200?

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J-e-f-f-A:

paladine: Funny thing is I'm not even using the 150 or 350 atm!

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Honk^away:

<-- almost fell for the "higher number == better" trick =)

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J-e-f-f-A:

Honk^away: If you want two tuners in one PCI slot, get the 500. It's two 150's on one card.

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paladine:

its also uber expensive

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Honk^away:

and it's 3 times as expensive too =)

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J-e-f-f-A:

sphing: Sorry – not me. But I've heard they work fine, but the firewire capture can be picky about chipsets from what I hear.

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paladine:

I should apply for a job at hauppauge to get free cards ;)

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sphing:

J-e-f-f-A: i wonder if the 6200 requires setup to work. I've fixed the error, however myth times out after 15 secs of black

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J-e-f-f-A:

paladine: eh? I think I paid $140 for my PVR-500... The 150's were going for $99 at the time...

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sphing:

i'm not sure if i have to enable the output on the box

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Honk^away:

150 sells for ~55€ right now.. the 500 for 150 :]

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paladine:

J-e-f-f-A, they are going for about $200-$240 in the UK

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paladine:

I got my 150 for about $65

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J-e-f-f-A:

paladine: eek. Ok, if you've got the slots, just throw in a couple of 150's...

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** J-e-f-f-A is considering reselling 500's to the uk... ;-) **

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paladine:

J-e-f-f-A, by time you have paid the shipping the duty, it would still be as much if not more

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paladine:

our wallets are used to be a$$raped :)

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paladine:

s/be/being

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J-e-f-f-A:

sphing: Your best bet is to search the thread archives or google — I don't currently have firewire so I can't help you much beyond that...

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mkrufky:

one of my 1-hour recordings got chopped during transcoding, but i have the original... I overwrote the mpg file with the mpg.old file, and I am sure the entire recording is there now (tested in mplayer) , but mythtv still only sees it as a 3 minute recording. how do I get myth to re-analyze the file?

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_mac:

Hi. How come in 0.20, I can only show recordings/livetv with the via xvmc acceleration up to 704x496? I was able to view/record videos at 768x576.. Thats not possible anymore

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sphing:

whoop... got firewire working with a via chipset

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J-e-f-f-A:

sphing: HD or SD via fw?

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janneg:

mkrufky: mythcommflag --rebuild -f FILE

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mkrufky:

janneg: thanks

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sphing:

SD... i'm rebooting, about to test hd

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J-e-f-f-A:

sphing: cool... Where are you located, and how much is the HD cable service?

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J-e-f-f-A:

Anyone here have Comcast cable in the boston area?

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_mac:

Anyone uses viaxvmc ?

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psofa:

erm

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psofa:

have the dvb-s freq units changed?

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psofa:

in trunk

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kormoc:

Are they now in hogheads per forenight?

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psofa:

im talking about 000

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psofa:

Warning: Your frequency setting (11075000) is out of range. (min/max:950000/2150000)

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psofa:

and i bet it worked before

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_mac:

what is the best command line to redirect EVERYTHING from mythfrontend (including stderr) to a file for debugging?

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Sebulba02:

./command > file.txt 1>&2

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_mac:

Thanks

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Sebulba02:

usually..

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_mac:

kormoc: I narrowed down my problem by now.. it's weird

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kormoc:

ooh?

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psofa:

well must sleep :/

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J-e-f-f-A:

_mac: (It's me? — you said 'it's weird') ;-)

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_mac:

kormoc: viaxvmc refuses to show anything that has a higher resolution than 704x496 ... so all my old recordings and any live tv bigger than that shows a black screen

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_mac:

Used to work in 0.19

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_mac:

Trying to narrow it down more

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_mac:

Weird, I see no differences at all in the two logfiles i created

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Cardoe:

hey kormoc

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paladine:

don't suppose anyone knows the command line for viewing an svideo in input in vlc off the top of their head?

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_mac:

http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/2396 .. I don't suppose anyone can help :)

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paladine:

if I make changes to /usr/local/share/mythtv/themes/dvr/tvmenu.xml do I have to mythfilldatabase or just restart backend/frontend for them to take effect?

[02:03:24]

mkrufky:

janneg: now it's 10 minutes long instead of 3 minutes. (wierd) ....

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mkrufky:

janneg: the full recording IS present in the mpg file, mythtv just has the wrong idea of it's length

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mkrufky:

...and another file that I transcoded using autodetect has no audio anymore when i play it in mythtv, but it's there if i use mplayer

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Aid`:

AVADA KEDAVRA!

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Aid`:

:)

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paladine:

k that works

[02:14:22]

paladine:

using a vlc passthrough to watch unbuffered tv

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paladine:

from mythtv

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janneg:

mkrufky: try mythtranscode --buildindex -c CHANID -s STARTTIME, it's a different implemantation to rebuild the keyframe index. the recording has probably errors.

[02:30:27]

janneg:

btw: mythtv should also play the whole recording, but seeking and the length display are broken

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janneg:

mkrufky: try to select a different audio track '+' or in the osd menu, select audio track

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kieran491:

Would any one happen to know any documention on how to make a slave mythtv box?

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paladine:

w00p I just setup my first mythtv recording schedule :)

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paladine:

I should have 5 shows ready to watch when I get up in the morning :)

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mkrufky:

janneg: before seeing your last message, i did 'mythcommflag --rebuild -f FILE' on another recording and it also screwed up the length in myth .... you're right, it will play past the incorrect length, but i cant ff / rew anymore at that point

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mkrufky:

i just want to undo whatever is in the database for these two recordings, now..... the actual mpg files are fine

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paladine:

nite folks, these meds have done me in for the night now

[03:06:40]

Anduin:

mkrufky: have you tried just deleting all the seek info for the two recordings?

[03:08:06]

mkrufky:

Anduin: how do i do that?

[03:08:35]

mkrufky:

in other words, no i havent tried it, but i think that's exactly what needs to be done

[03:08:41]

Anduin:

mkrufky: Only directly DB manipulation I believe

[03:09:18]

mkrufky:

ok, well i know the filenames.... i dont yet know my way around the mythtv table structures, but i know sql

[03:09:45]

mkrufky:

what columns from which table need to be cleared?

[03:10:20]

Anduin:

mkrufky: recorded and recordedseek (for 0.20)

[03:11:16]

Anduin:

mkrufky: basically you would delete every record in recorded seek with the chanid/starttime matching the bad ones in recorded.

[03:11:35]

Anduin:

Though the rebuild really should have worked (unless the table is corrupt)

[03:11:41]

mkrufky:

:-(

[03:12:06]

mkrufky:

i have over 300 recordings, none of which are messed up like these 2

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mkrufky:

so, i dont think the table is corrupt

[03:12:43]

mkrufky:

unless the rebuilt corrupted these particular records

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[03:17:04]

darkdrgn2k:

Any one know when IVTV will be released for version 2.6.18?

[03:17:34]

mkrufky:

there is already ivtv 0.8.x

[03:17:46]

darkdrgn2k:

really?

[03:17:49]

mkrufky:

look on ivtvdriver.org

[03:17:52]

mkrufky:

yes

[03:17:55]

darkdrgn2k:

does it work with 2.6.18

[03:18:09]

mkrufky:

0.8.x works with both 2.6.18 and also v4l-dvb hg tip

[03:18:14]

darkdrgn2k:

cause i couldnt get the devel version compiled...

[03:18:23]

mkrufky:

trunk wont build right now

[03:18:31]

mkrufky:

it's undergoing refactoring

[03:18:42]

darkdrgn2k:

oh.. where can i get a stable devel release?

[03:18:45]

mkrufky:

0.8.x

[03:18:56]

mkrufky:

in svn

[03:19:26]

darkdrgn2k:

hwo do i pull svn again?

[03:19:30]

darkdrgn2k:

svn url

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mkrufky:

there are instructions on ivtvdriver.org

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darkdrgn2k:

lol sory being lazy

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darkdrgn2k:

thanx,

[03:19:55]

mkrufky:

me too :-)

[03:20:06]

darkdrgn2k:

;)

[03:20:08]

darkdrgn2k:

its that kinda day

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darkdrgn2k:

svn co http://ivtvdriver.org/svn/ivtv/branches/0.4 ivtv-0.4

[03:20:26]

darkdrgn2k:

oops

[03:20:30]

darkdrgn2k:

svn co http://ivtvdriver.org/svn/ivtv/branches/0.8 ivtv-0.8

[03:20:34]

darkdrgn2k:

look right?

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mkrufky:

ya

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mkrufky:

ur using 2.6.18-rc7 ?

[03:21:26]

darkdrgn2k:

rc4 at the moemtn compil;ed

[03:21:27]

darkdrgn2k:

git2

[03:21:30]

mkrufky:

oof

[03:21:35]

darkdrgn2k:

should i go to 7?

[03:21:37]

darkdrgn2k:

probably a..

[03:21:41]

mkrufky:

no sense in running an old -rc

[03:21:49]

darkdrgn2k:

yeh.. true

[03:22:08]

darkdrgn2k:

lol since i been tryign ot get my dvb card workign i compiled 4 differnt kernels :-P

[03:22:13]

darkdrgn2k:

what another one

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mkrufky:

there are some major v4l bugs in -rc4 too

[03:22:35]

mkrufky:

which dvb card do you have?

[03:22:40]

darkdrgn2k:

can i just coupy the .config file over :-P

[03:22:45]

darkdrgn2k:

umm cx88 chipset

[03:22:46]

mkrufky:

yes, u can

[03:22:48]

darkdrgn2k:

digiwavef

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mkrufky:

ah, we just added that one

[03:22:58]

darkdrgn2k:

forgot the name of the card that it comes up as.. :-S

[03:23:03]

darkdrgn2k:

yeh i know...

[03:23:06]

mkrufky:

the geniatech one?

[03:23:11]

darkdrgn2k:

yeh thats it LOL

[03:23:21]

darkdrgn2k:

does the driver work right?

[03:23:23]

mkrufky:

you realize that you dont have to compile an entire kernel for that

[03:23:28]

darkdrgn2k:

?

[03:23:31]

mkrufky:

in fact, you dont even need 2.6.18

[03:23:39]

darkdrgn2k:

i only foudn it in 2.6.18

[03:23:44]

mkrufky:

that is correct

[03:23:45]

mkrufky:

but

[03:24:03]

mkrufky:

you can just build the v4l-dvb drivers from the mercurial tree on linuxtv.org

[03:24:08]

mkrufky:

against any kernel

[03:24:15]

darkdrgn2k:

hmm... yeh

[03:24:32]

darkdrgn2k:

i was wiery of doing that cause i read that there were even more patches for that card due to voltage control issues

[03:24:41]

darkdrgn2k:

and when i did get the direves intalled. i had a problem tuning :-S

[03:24:51]

mkrufky:

the first kernel with support for your card is 2.6.18, but you can build the v4l-dvb tree drivers with any kernel after 2.6.12

[03:25:06]

mkrufky:

the current snapshot works for that card

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darkdrgn2k:

LoL

[03:25:32]

mkrufky:

anyway, it's up to you .... using 2.6.18-rc7 should be fine also

[03:25:41]

darkdrgn2k:

might as well go bleeding edge

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darkdrgn2k:

i dotn get to live on the edge often :-P

[03:26:06]

** darkdrgn2k should brush up his kernel level c skills and chip in one day **

[03:26:15]

mkrufky:

well, which is more on the edge? an -rc kernel, or a stable kernel + v4l-dvb devel?

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darkdrgn2k:

LOL one is bleeding edge.. the other is a knife that has been thrusted into a working model

[03:27:02]

darkdrgn2k:

to many unknonws for my liking,

[03:27:08]

mkrufky:

i am still wondering which is which?

[03:27:12]

darkdrgn2k:

that and i dont know what im doing with svn really..

[03:27:32]

darkdrgn2k:

ive spent to much of my life in the shadows of windows....

[03:28:18]

darkdrgn2k:

actually while your here maybe you can tell me

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darkdrgn2k:

00:01.4 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS PCI Audio Accelerator (rev 02)

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darkdrgn2k:

any idea which kernel module that is..

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mkrufky:

nope

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darkdrgn2k:

no worries thanx anyway

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darkdrgn2k:

man..

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darkdrgn2k:

[root@linuxserver SVN]# svn co http://ivtvdriver.org/svn/ivtv/branches/0.8 ivtv-0.8

[03:28:56]

darkdrgn2k:

svn: Working copy 'ivtv-0.8' locked

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mkrufky:

no prob

[03:29:04]

mkrufky:

u still didnt answer my question

[03:29:08]

darkdrgn2k:

oo

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darkdrgn2k:

lol

[03:29:19]

mkrufky:

which do you consider more risky? -rc or hg ?

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darkdrgn2k:

with a devel kernel, your running a systme that is SOPPOSED to be unstable

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darkdrgn2k:

with a HG system, your running a STABLE system with an unstable component......

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mkrufky:

ah, so no risk is your expecting problems

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mkrufky:

s/is/if

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darkdrgn2k:

exacly

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mkrufky:

ur saying hg is riskier?

[03:30:22]

darkdrgn2k:

well for me it is

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darkdrgn2k:

cause i have no idea what im doing :-P

[03:30:47]

mkrufky:

hehe... hg is riskier if you update every day

[03:31:05]

mkrufky:

but not if you only update when necessary

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darkdrgn2k:

especialy when i start "fixing" compile issues to get lirc working :-P

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mkrufky:

next time just unselect the bad module using 'make menuconfig'

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darkdrgn2k:

any idea why i cant download 0.8

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Klink:

anyone living in vancouver and using a dvb card to tune Shaw cable?

[03:31:50]

scottder:

anyone tried using mkiconmap.pl, all I keep getting is invalid postal code

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darkdrgn2k:

[root@linuxserver SVN]# svn co http://ivtvdriver.org/svn/ivtv/branches/0.8 ivtv-0.8

[03:31:59]

darkdrgn2k:

svn: Working copy 'ivtv-0.8' locked

[03:31:59]

darkdrgn2k:

svn: run 'svn cleanup' to remove locks (type 'svn help cleanup' for details)

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darkdrgn2k:

[root@linuxserver SVN]#

[03:32:18]

mkrufky:

why are you root?

[03:32:25]

mkrufky:

dont be root

[03:32:30]

darkdrgn2k:

mkrufky: but roots fun..

[03:32:38]

mkrufky:

anyway, try again from a clean directory

[03:32:40]

darkdrgn2k:

mkrufky: especialy when you rm stuff :-D

[03:32:44]

mkrufky:

i wont lecture you about it — im tired

[03:33:09]

darkdrgn2k:

mkrufky: no worries im am quite aware of the dangers being root has...

[03:33:14]

mkrufky:

grr i forgot to fix my own problem

[03:33:15]

mkrufky:

brb

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darkdrgn2k:

mkrufky: but its a developemtn machien idont care :-P

[03:34:00]

mkrufky:

its worse on a dev box, because you think u have a controlled situation and something unrelated goes wrong — u end up looking thru the wrong code for a red herring

[03:34:38]

mkrufky:

i think i only said that for argument's sake :-)

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darkdrgn2k:

mkrufky: got a point...

[03:35:05]

darkdrgn2k:

mkrufky: but i wipe this box more times then my own a$$ soo.. yeh anywya :-D

[03:36:05]

** mkrufky doesnt know what to say to THAT **

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darkdrgn2k:

just hang you head and shake it sadly :-P

[03:36:32]

mkrufky:

i'll pinch my nose while im at it

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darkdrgn2k:

LMAO

[03:36:43]

darkdrgn2k:

sory for that graphic representation

[03:36:44]

mkrufky:

:-)

[03:36:50]

darkdrgn2k:

my filters are off this evening

[03:36:52]

mkrufky:

'sall good

[03:37:11]

darkdrgn2k:

lol

[03:37:15]

darkdrgn2k:

well thanks for all the help...

[03:37:23]

mkrufky:

im trying to install phpmyadmin cuz i dont know my way around the mythtv tables

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mkrufky:

no problem

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darkdrgn2k:

oo fun fun

[03:37:38]

darkdrgn2k:

i always liked the mysql software

[03:37:47]

darkdrgn2k:

its much easier to use then phpmyadmin

[03:38:05]

darkdrgn2k:

and it comes in both linux and windows flavours:)

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mkrufky:

ok, well i cant even find a package for phpmyadmin

[03:38:24]

mkrufky:

which software is this?

[03:38:34]

mkrufky:

im using fc5

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darkdrgn2k:

hold on

[03:39:04]

darkdrgn2k:

http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/gui-tools/5.0.html

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darkdrgn2k:

thye have fedora packages for that

[03:39:23]

mkrufky:

hmm, ok

[03:39:29]

mkrufky:

thanks , i;ll take a look

[03:39:51]

darkdrgn2k:

its nice if you dont need the web interface,, you can have multiple windows with differnt querys

[03:39:58]

darkdrgn2k:

an you can even scroll through your queryies

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mkrufky:

im just gonna install it now

[03:40:10]

darkdrgn2k:

(past queries) lol

[03:40:14]

darkdrgn2k:

have fun lol

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piku:

hey guys, I installed myth 0.20 from atrpms and the plugins are not registering for some reason

[03:42:39]

piku:

any way to force the issue?

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mkrufky:

darkdrgn2k: dependency problems

[03:43:33]

mkrufky:

bah

[03:43:40]

darkdrgn2k:

baaa

[03:43:51]

darkdrgn2k:

use windows :-P

[03:44:06]

** mkrufky has a heart attack **

[03:44:29]

darkdrgn2k:

you dont get dependency issues there...

[03:44:38]

darkdrgn2k:

it just over writes anything it WANTS ;)

[03:45:12]

mkrufky:

true

[03:45:26]

darkdrgn2k:

thats then the really fun debugging happens

[03:45:31]

mkrufky:

eh, i think this is too much trouble for two episodes of a show that i dont like anyway

[03:45:36]

darkdrgn2k:

seeing how every one has to be root to run programs!

[03:45:41]

darkdrgn2k:

lol

[03:45:43]

darkdrgn2k:

what show

[03:45:48]

mkrufky:

vanished

[03:45:54]

darkdrgn2k:

never heard

[03:45:57]

mkrufky:

a girl at work asked me to record them for her

[03:46:03]

darkdrgn2k:

aaaa

[03:46:22]

piku:

{} chasing the hole

[03:46:25]

** piku giggles **

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mkrufky:

lol

[03:47:09]

mkrufky:

anyway, now i feel cautious about transcoding in 0.20

[03:47:25]

darkdrgn2k:

LOL

[03:47:30]

mkrufky:

it transcoded just fine, but screwed up the tables

[03:47:42]

darkdrgn2k:

thast alwyas fun

[03:47:44]

piku:

I haven't had any transcoded shows since 0.20

[03:47:46]

mkrufky:

wait, no... that's an inaccurate statement

[03:47:53]

piku:

but I only transcode old episodes of x-files for my gfriend

[03:48:02]

piku:

too much space :-P

[03:48:07]

mkrufky:

i screwed up the tables myself, when i replaced the transcoded file by oits original

[03:48:16]

darkdrgn2k:

lol

[03:48:19]

piku:

but my pctv analog card already looks like poop on my 50" plasma

[03:48:21]

darkdrgn2k:

ooo thats fun

[03:48:24]

piku:

so I'm not going to compress further

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mkrufky:

im not compressing

[03:48:46]

darkdrgn2k:

piku: rub it in why dont u

[03:48:49]

piku:

(yes, after I bought the plasma, I have no more money for the pchdtv card)

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darkdrgn2k:

lol

[03:48:58]

mkrufky:

all i did was transcode after turning the commercial flags into a cutlist

[03:49:16]

darkdrgn2k:

does the commercial stuff really work?

[03:49:22]

mkrufky:

that way, it doesnt have to skip commercials anymore — it just removes them

[03:49:23]

piku:

commercial skip?

[03:49:26]

piku:

it works like a dream

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mkrufky:

yes — works very well

[03:49:35]

piku:

only screws up very rarely these days

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piku:

usually on tnt

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darkdrgn2k:

lol i always wodered how it works

[03:49:39]

mkrufky:

id say with 90% accuracy for me

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piku:

darkdrgn2k, detects the channel logo

[03:49:55]

piku:

or changes in audio level

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piku:

it uses many different methods

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darkdrgn2k:

hmm channel logo.. smart..

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darkdrgn2k:

sure beets the old "black screen" detection

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mkrufky:

i use blank frame detection

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piku:

yeah, they're all so obsessed with that shilloutted logo

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piku:

and I really blew the spelling on that

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darkdrgn2k:

hahaha

[03:50:54]

darkdrgn2k:

i had a myth box for almost a year now

[03:50:59]

darkdrgn2k:

and i havent recorded a dam thing :-P go figure

[03:51:04]

piku:

hehe.. I've had the same myth box for a while

[03:51:08]

darkdrgn2k:

and i have a nice pvr150 in there !

[03:51:09]

piku:

the first one on my tbird 1.2ghz

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piku:

overworked it so hard it killed the hardware

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piku:

but now on the sempron it runs smooth as a baby's butt

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mkrufky:

have you compared?

[03:51:42]

darkdrgn2k:

im running a AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux

[03:51:45]

mkrufky:

j/k

[03:51:57]

darkdrgn2k:

cpu MHz : 1260.128

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piku:

mkrufky, just an expression :-P

[03:52:06]

mkrufky:

i know... just joking around

[03:52:11]

piku:

I actually forget what sempron I got

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piku:

I think it was 3000+

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piku:

I never ever touch that box

[03:52:30]

piku:

I've learned gentoo is more fun when you don't do updates daily

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darkdrgn2k:

piku: updates? lMao

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mkrufky:

depends on whether or not you consider watching code compile to be fun

[03:53:37]

darkdrgn2k:

piku: only reasy i swiched to gentoo is to do stuff myself...

[03:53:46]

piku:

well actually

[03:53:47]

darkdrgn2k:

mkrufky: i miss rpms :(

[03:53:50]

piku:

it's a lot better if you enable ccache

[03:53:54]

darkdrgn2k:

mkrufky: but my box got to bulky with mandriva

[03:54:00]

piku:

and use like a 4GB compiler cache :-P

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darkdrgn2k:

ccahe?

[03:54:09]

piku:

gnu preprocessor cache

[03:54:15]

piku:

it speeds up repeated builds exponentially

[03:54:16]

darkdrgn2k:

cool

[03:54:22]

piku:

really good for fixing failed buildsw

[03:54:31]

darkdrgn2k:

LOL I bet...

[03:54:32]

piku:

and like for instance, the new version of mythtv built really fast

[03:54:38]

piku:

since it was pretty repetitive

[03:54:41]

** darkdrgn2k remembers all those times he built mythtv **

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darkdrgn2k:

hey, does mythtv support dvb?

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mkrufky:

yes

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darkdrgn2k:

cool

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darkdrgn2k:

if i ever get this dvb card up and runnign gatta ttry it

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darkdrgn2k:

any one do terestrial dvb?

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piku:

gah.. anyone have any idea how to scan/rescan for plugins?

[03:56:48]

Anduin:

piku: The frontend does it on load

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mkrufky:

Anduin: i still havent gotten anywhere... any chance you could give be a SQL query?

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mkrufky:

s/be/me

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piku:

hrmmph.. it just says "Registering internal as a media playback plugin"

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piku:

I dunno.. all the xml is there

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darkdrgn2k:

anyway sleep time thanx all

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darkdrgn2k:

for help

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darkdrgn2k:

mkrufky: u still there?

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briand:

i thought u were going to sleep... ;)

[04:39:45]

darkdrgn2k:

i was

[04:39:51]

darkdrgn2k:

but ivtv didnt compuile :(

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darkdrgn2k:

make[1]: Entering directory `/var/lib/mythtv/src/ivtv-0.8/utils'

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darkdrgn2k:

g++ -I/var/lib/mythtv/src/ivtv-0.8/utils/../driver -D_GNU_SOURCE -O2 -Wall -g -c -o v4l2-ctl.o v4l2-ctl.cpp

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darkdrgn2k:

In file included from v4l2-ctl.cpp:39:

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darkdrgn2k:

/usr/include/linux/videodev2.h:129: error: `__s32' does not name a type

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darkdrgn2k:

see

[04:40:27]

briand:

0.8 ?? are you running a 2.6.18 kernel over there?

[04:40:41]

briand:

well, a pre-release 2.6.18 kernel, anyway?

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darkdrgn2k:

yes

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darkdrgn2k:

rc7

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briand:

ah... bleedin' edge stuff

[04:41:22]

darkdrgn2k:

:-S

[04:41:50]

darkdrgn2k:

any idea why its not compiling

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darkdrgn2k:

mkrufky said it shoudl work

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tank-man:

cause it is bleeding edge

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Dagmar:

Well, ask mrkrufky about it then

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darkdrgn2k:

Dagmar: i tried

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briand:

I know that Hans was doing a bunch of stuff.. and said it'd be flaky for a bit (this was a week or so ago)... but i haven't been following the ivtv-dev list close enough to know if he's back to "normal" there yet

[04:42:27]

Dagmar:

...or get out the bandages and go back to released versions like 2.6.17.13 and 0.7.0

[04:42:31]

darkdrgn2k:

tank-man: unfrotunatly my tv card is on the bleeding edge

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Dagmar:

darkdrgn2k: looks like you're screwed for now then

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darkdrgn2k:

brian_: i was told that 0.8 was stable enoug to compile while trunk wont compile

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briand:

darkdrgn2k: [shrug] ... dunno, I (personally) haven't compiled a version of ivtv since 0.4.0 (tagged release)

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piku:

plugins are still broken

[04:44:39]

** piku scratches his head **

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briand:

they are?

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piku:

well on my system they are

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piku:

all the *.so files are there under /usr/lib64/mythtv/plugins

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piku:

and if I ldd them all the deps are there

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piku:

but it just does not pick them up on the scan

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briand:

ah.

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piku:

I did really verbose logging and I don't even see a scan

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darkdrgn2k:

0.8 is designed foro 2.6.18 right?

[04:47:25]

Dagmar:

Yep

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** darkdrgn2k cringes **

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darkdrgn2k:

so y wont it compile

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briand:

and, of course, you'd have to have all the v4l2 stuff enabled in that .18 kernel...

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Dagmar:

piku: Sounds like a GEntoo build problem

[04:49:11]

Dagmar:

...or rather a #Gentoo build problem

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darkdrgn2k:

briand: were is that

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Dagmar:

darkdrgn2k: Under `make menuconfig`

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darkdrgn2k:

Dagmar: yes WHERE under that

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darkdrgn2k:

device/multimedia?

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Dagmar:

If you don't know, why are you even using Linux

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darkdrgn2k:

Dagmar: i cant seem to find anythign labeld v4l2 LOL

[04:51:01]

Dagmar:

It's in the same place it was every other time...

[04:51:07]

Dagmar:

That stands for Video4Linux 2

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darkdrgn2k:

yes iknow

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Dagmar:

Turn on just about everything in there as a module

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darkdrgn2k:

unde rmultimedia?

[04:51:46]

Dagmar:

When you find the Video4Linux 2 section

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Dagmar:

This would include the Encoders and Decoders section

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darkdrgn2k:

i found a vid for linux section

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darkdrgn2k:

no vid 4 linux 2

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darkdrgn2k:

[04:52:33]

darkdrgn2k:

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darkdrgn2k:

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darkdrgn2k:

see

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Dagmar:

Oh what FUN you have for attempting to use an unreleased kernel!

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darkdrgn2k:

*sigh*

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darkdrgn2k:

yes.. tones of fun.. where is v4l2?

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Dagmar:

They probably changed the name of it there

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darkdrgn2k:

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darkdrgn2k:

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darkdrgn2k:

doesnt look liek there IS a v4l2.

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Dagmar:

What's "<darkdrgn2k> Symbol: VIDEO_V4L2 [=y]" then?

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Dagmar:

Looks like v4l2 to me

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darkdrgn2k:

Dagmar: but i cant find v4l2!!!

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darkdrgn2k:

in menu config

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darkdrgn2k:

time to nano i guess :-S

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CCFL_Man_:

anyone here cross compiled alsa before?

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darkdrgn2k:

# CONFIG_VIDEO_V4L1 is not set

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darkdrgn2k:

CONFIG_VIDEO_V4L1_COMPAT=y

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darkdrgn2k:

CONFIG_VIDEO_V4L2=y

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darkdrgn2k:

already set :-S

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darkdrgn2k:

ok il stop flooding now sory

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darkdrgn2k:

ahah copying over the include/linux folder from the kernel to usr compiled it :-P

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briand:

:) ah, the joys of a home-compiled kernel...

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darkdrgn2k:

lol

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darkdrgn2k:

yeh JOY

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** briand was being facetious **

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a1fa|64:

quick question regarding mythweb

[05:05:12]

a1fa|64:

if you select always record this showing

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a1fa|64:

is it only going to record new shows or it will also re-record previously recorded shows?

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briand:

it will always record that show in that timeslot on that day.

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a1fa|64:

that sucks

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a1fa|64:

is there any way to record only non-recorded shows

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a1fa|64:

on any channel?

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briand:

yes

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a1fa|64:

what option is that?

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briand:

record this show at any time on this channel

[05:06:48]

briand:

record this show at any time on any channel

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a1fa|64:

so it will not record if it has previously been recorded, right?

[05:07:38]

briand:

it will not record if it seems to match something previously recorded, according to your current duplicate detection rule

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a1fa|64:

cool

[05:08:23]

briand:

let's say you never saw a single episode of M*A*S*H ...

[05:08:40]

briand:

and your listings always show the subtitle for that program

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a1fa|64:

what does P mean?

[05:09:05]

briand:

'Record at any time on any channel' will record any episode you haven't previously recorded

[05:09:12]

briand:

P = Previously recorded

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a1fa|64:

ah cool

[05:09:18]

a1fa|64:

E?

[05:09:23]

briand:

E = recorded an earlier showing of this episode

[05:09:29]

briand:

C = conflict

[05:09:37]

briand:

RTFM = did you read the manual?

[05:09:49]

a1fa|64:

6 months ago

[05:09:53]

briand:

:) = smiley

[05:09:59]

jason2343:

hello everyone, I just upgraded my Debian Sarge mythtv box from mythtv .18 to mythtv .20 and I'm having some difficulties. the install went fine (compiled mythtv and plugins from source) and I can start mythfrontend. Unfortunately, mythfrontend only displays a blank screen- with no buttons. I have some hotkeys set which I can use to start livetv or go to my recordings page. The mysql database is accessible as I can watch/record

[05:10:15]

jason2343:

however, it seems the upgrade screwed up mythfrontend as i only see a blank page with no way to navigate

[05:10:38]

briand:

jason2343: did you also install the new 0.20 themes?

[05:10:46]

jason2343:

yes

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briand:

rpm install, or compile from source?

[05:11:07]

jason2343:

from source

[05:11:14]

briand:

what about your 0.18 ?

[05:11:22]

jason2343:

it worked fine

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briand:

rpm install, or compile from source?

[05:11:31]

jason2343:

i even had a customized visor theme which i made

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jason2343:

source

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a1fa|64:

i got one more problem

[05:11:44]

a1fa|64:

if i have two shows back to back

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jason2343:

i always install myth from source

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a1fa|64:

one show has been cutoff

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briand:

jason2343: good man. :)

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jason2343:

i've been using mythtv for about 1.5 years

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a1fa|64:

it looks like mythtv is not using a separate tuner

[05:12:25]

briand:

a1fa|64: how many tuners do you have?

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jason2343:

on an amd xp 2700+ with 550 GB of storage (4 HDs) with LVM, and two tuners

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a1fa|64:

2 (1xPVR-500)

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briand:

a1fa|64: how many tuners does myth know about?

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Dagmar:

jason2343: Your theme is hte problem then

[05:12:40]

a1fa|64:

2 (1xPVR-500)

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SlicerDicer-:

briand: well if I had raid I could do more

[05:13:00]

SlicerDicer-:

I am at the limit of harddrive writes

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jason2343:

Dagmar: i thought so- so i deleted the visor directory but i'm getting the same issue with another theme

[05:13:07]

Dagmar:

jason2343: Themes usually (read: "damn near always") have to be updated witht he binaries

[05:13:22]

Dagmar:

'ja install MythThemes-0.20?

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briand:

jason2343: yes... switch to the default theme and try it...

[05:13:41]

jason2343:

how do i switch themes now if i can't access mythfrontend to switch themes?

[05:13:44]

** briand was also using a modified visor theme in 0.19... need to tweak a bit more for 0.20, so using MythCenter for now **

[05:13:50]

SlicerDicer-:

briand: my harddrives write speed gets maxed out if I add another tuner LOL

[05:14:00]

jason2343:

i think it's using illius now

[05:14:04]

jason2343:

the grey theme

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jason2343:

btw, visor worked fine in .19

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briand:

SlicerDicer-: heheh. :) u need a faster controller and/or drives. ...or multiple backends :)

[05:14:23]

jason2343:

i upgraded to .19 first and that worked

[05:14:25]

a1fa|64:

briand: got any clue?

[05:14:31]

SlicerDicer-:

briand: I am planning to get a slavebackend soon

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jason2343:

i was planning to use it with winmyth for my gf's laptop but that failed so i just decided to upgrade to .20

[05:14:54]

briand:

a1fa|64: does myth know to use the same video source for both tuners?

[05:14:55]

SlicerDicer-:

I have 4 drives in that backend but I cant do raid as they are all differnet sizes

[05:15:28]

briand:

a1fa|64: because the only reason it wouldn't use a second tuner (ever) would be if it thought it couldn't receive that program on it...

[05:15:43]

a1fa|64:

yup

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a1fa|64:

both tuners are set to use the same source

[05:15:52]

jason2343:

briand: so, how should i switch to the default theme?

[05:15:53]

briand:

a1fa|64: i have 3 tuners (pvr-350 and pvr-500), and it uses 'em all, all the time

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a1fa|64:

bcos if i can record two channels at the same time

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SlicerDicer-:

briand: I have to say the PVR350 is damn nice

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SlicerDicer-:

for the decoding :)

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briand:

SlicerDicer-: yes, for SD and very little CPU loading... but no OpenGL (well, very slow OpenGL rendering, anyway)

[05:17:17]

briand:

jason2343: you could manually copy the default theme files into your ./default directory...

[05:17:30]

SlicerDicer-:

briand: I went to Firewire though so I use a nvidia 4800 SE the TI model :) old gaming gpu hehe does the job nicely

[05:17:30]

briand:

jason2343: back up what's there first, tho (of course)

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jason2343:

briand: but- i don't think it's the theme itself. it must be some other setting because i'm having the same issue in one of the default themes as i was having in visor

[05:18:00]

a1fa|64:

anyway to setup email alerts if there is a conflict schedule?

[05:18:10]

jason2343:

i'm using GANT now

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jason2343:

after deleting the visor directory

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briand:

SlicerDicer-: I'm thinking of putting an AGP NVIDIA FX5200 or suchlike in my "rebuild box"... leave the PVR-350 in the Pundit, and make something for my sister to record soap operas with...

[05:18:27]

** a1fa|64 is upgrading to the newest svn version **

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Dagmar:

jason2343: Did you or did you not install MythThemes 0.20 when you installed MythTV 0.20?

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SlicerDicer-:

haha briand

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jason2343:

Dagmar: i did install myththemes

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Dagmar:

Version 0.20?

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jason2343:

Dagmar: i installed mythtv, mythplugins, and myththemes

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jason2343:

Dagmar: yes

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SlicerDicer-:

briand: I am going to upgrade that one in not to long to a 6600GT so I can have HD capable

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jason2343:

Dagmar: mythtv .20, mythplugings .20a, myththemes .20

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SlicerDicer-:

the 6600GT is in my server box so its kinda overkill lol

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briand:

SlicerDicer-: new MB has 3 pci slots and 1 agp slot... so i'll move the pvr-500 over there.. maybe get a second one.. then, perhaps a pcHDTV card for the last slot...

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Dagmar:

jason2343: Hm... It should be working then

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jason2343:

lol, i know

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SlicerDicer-:

briand: have you tried firewire?

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Dagmar:

You installed from source right?

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jason2343:

Dagmar: i've been using mythtv for a while. i only came here as i didn't know what to do. i usually troubleshoot myself.

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briand:

SlicerDicer-: the new box also has 4 IDE channels, 2 SATA channels and plenty of room to mount drives... :)

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jason2343:

Dagmar: yes, from source

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SlicerDicer-:

briand: Florida I have no real data on if 5C is implemented or not

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jason2343:

Dagmar: installed on a debian sarge box

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briand:

SlicerDicer-: I don't have any firewire devices to plug into it.

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Dagmar:

jason2343: Did you build them into --prefix=/usr or did you not specify?

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jason2343:

Dagmar: i didn't specify

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SlicerDicer-:

briand: comcast cableboxes ;-)

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jason2343:

Dagmar: just did make && make install

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briand:

SlicerDicer-: according to avsforums, I should get a wide variety of QAM-256 stuff, including both HD and SD

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Dagmar:

jason2343: Is that the way you built it the last time? I can see where it would break like that if you installed the first set into --prefix=/usr or something otehr than not specifying

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jason2343:

Dagmar: i installed it just as i installed it before

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briand:

SlicerDicer-: I'm an analog tv subscriber on comcast.

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a1fa|64:

i need to buy two 500gb disks and get them in raid 0

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Dagmar:

jason2343 : Then make sure you don't have a /usr/share/mythtv directory

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jason2343:

Dagmar: and the theme still kind of works- if i press the hotkey i can access the recordings or the upcoming recordings page

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jason2343:

the menus don't work

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jason2343:

no /usr/share/mythtv dir

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Dagmar:

See, the menus should work, and the biggest thing that goes wrong when people upgrade without updating the menus is that the menus go blank

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jason2343:

themes are in /usr/local/share/mythtv

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jason2343:

Dagmar: you mean- no menus?

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Dagmar:

I mean that the menus wind up blank, with no text on them at all

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jason2343:

i just see the gant background but nothing else

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jason2343:

if i hit escape i see what i would expect

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Dagmar:

,It might be there for an eyeblink and then pfft it disappears

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jason2343:

how can i force an update of the menus

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jason2343:

i've never had this issue before

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jason2343:

i've gone from .14 to .15 to .16 to .17 to .18 to .19 to .20

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jason2343:

this is the first time

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Dagmar:

rm -rf /usr/local/share/mythtv/themes and then make install again

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jason2343:

and for a while i was using cvs

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Dagmar:

The whining isn't helping

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a1fa|64:

jason2343: run svn

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a1fa|64:

:P

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a1fa|64:

i love the svn version

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a1fa|64:

works 99% of the time

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jason2343:

yeah, cvs worked great

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jason2343:

i just don't have time to upgrade continually so i stick with the stable releases now

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Dagmar:

In this case it ight be worth pulling the SVN above 0.20 for the three packages, but I don't know that it would help that issue

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a1fa|64:

any new shows worth watching? <i like lost, prison brake...?

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Dagmar:

0.20 worked for me

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a1fa|64:

svn works for me

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a1fa|64:

a lot of new features

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a1fa|64:

i cant go back to 0.20, i'd day

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a1fa|64:

in pain

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a1fa|64:

any new shows worth watching?

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Dagmar:

There is a rather small subset of changes between 0.20 and SVN, dude.

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a1fa|64:

oh.. when did 0.20 come out?

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jason2343:

lol, you can't go back to a release from 5 days ago?

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Dagmar:

You should worry more about spelling and less about histrionics.

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Dagmar:

a1fa|64: Take a look... http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name=Downlo . . . ad&cid=1

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a1fa|64:

i am not a native speaker

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Dagmar:

...and that makes the homonym errors even more sad.

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a1fa|64:

troll

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jason2343:

i don't think alfa|64's grammar/spelling is relevant. He was being perfectly civil.

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jason2343:

So, perhaps you could do the same.

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Dagmar:

I'm not saying he's being uncivil.

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Dagmar:

I'm saying he should pay more attention to his spelling and worry less about possibly being made to use a release four whole days old.

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Dagmar:

This does not paint a picture of shimmering intelligence to others.

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a1fa|64:

as long as you are the leader

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a1fa|64:

we will have no problems

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jason2343:

he's not even a native english speaker

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robbins876:

what app should i use to rip a DVD to divx or xvid in fedora core 5?

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Dagmar:

Yeah, but he's in Arkansas now.

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a1fa|64:

so?

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jason2343:

this is a help channel for a tech product. It isn't for grammar and spelling issues.

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a1fa|64:

what does that have to do with anything?

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Dagmar:

Jesus you people whine like babies

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a1fa|64:

douche

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a1fa|64:

did i spell that right?

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jason2343:

perhaps you could stop insulting people and they would "whine" less.

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Dagmar:

Yes, worry about the technical issues. Do not worry about whether or not someone hurt your little feelings by implying that you're not the perfect product of modern civilizatrion

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a1fa|64:

let me announciate it.. douche; where e has a little accent on top

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Dagmar:

I didn't set out to insult anyone

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Dagmar:

If you want to carp on someone for name-calling, a1fa has YET to stop doing it.

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jason2343:

what has he done?

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robbins876:

anyone? ripping to divx or xvid from DVD?

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Dagmar:

jason2343: You mean aside from call me a douche?

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Dagmar:

...and give a snippy comment about "as long as you are the leader"

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jason2343:

robbins876: have you looked at mythdvd's transcoding function?

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Dagmar:

Since WHEN did become an act of unrepentant evil to politely request people TRY to become better?

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robbins876:

i work in collections... i get called names everyday, all day. being called names doesn't hurt. let it go

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Dagmar:

He's the _rude_ way to put iot

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Dagmar:

Learn the language or get out of the country.

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Dagmar:

s/iot/it/;

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jason2343:

Dagmar: heh, i missed the douche comment as i was working on my mythtv issue. I see what you're saying.

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jason2343:

Dagmar: how do you know he's even in the country?

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robbins876:

jason> in myth it's telling me that my transcode function isn't set up properly

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Dagmar:

jason2343: Because I've been on the internet long enough to be able to figure out where IP addresses are.

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Dagmar:

He's either in Arkansas or he's violating the TOS of that ISP.

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a1fa|64:

lol doing a little whois makes you a leet hax0r

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a1fa|64:

maybe you want to ssh to my ip

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Dagmar:

a1fa|64: No, 20+ years experience hacking makes me a leet hax0r, bitch

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a1fa|64:

stfu

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Dagmar:

Welcome to the ignore list, twit

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a1fa|64:

yeah, same for you, ZeroCool

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Dagmar:

Damn gentoo nubs

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a1fa|64:

I hate Gentoo

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a1fa|64:

I am a Debian Man

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robbins876:

man... #mythtv-users is swamped with fucking elitists tonight... what's wrong with you guys?

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Dagmar:

jason2343: Did you turn on the OpenGL paint engine in the setup menus with 0.20?

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Dagmar:

That's the only thing I can think of that might cause the text to break so quickly

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Dagmar:

Turning it _off_ might restore things

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jason2343:

Dagmar: ok, i stopped mythbackend and did a make install in the mythtv and myththemes directory. i then restarted the backend and the frontend but i'm having the same issue with GANT.

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jason2343:

Dagmar: i believe i may have turned it on in .19

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Dagmar:

There's still some dodgy stuff going on with it and themes, particularly GANT because GANT has a fancy thing in the background that's meant to pulse and it doesn't work quite right

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jason2343:

Dagmar: the menus never worked in .20

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Dagmar:

It didn't exist in 0.19

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Dagmar:

There's a new option in the first pane of the setup menus for Appearance (IIRC)

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jason2343:

Dagmar: in the appearences menu, there was an option for opengl or qt. i chose opengl (this was .19)

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Dagmar:

Counting number problems aside, turn it off.

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jason2343:

it said that the change would require a restart of mythfrontend which it did but it seemed to work fine. I only had a problem when i upgraded to .20

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Dagmar:

Switch it back to Qt and you might get menus

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Dagmar:

The item is named "Paint (something)" and it did not exist in 0.19.

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jason2343:

counting number problems? I can assure you that it was .19. I just compiled it a few hours ago. Before that i was using .18.

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jason2343:

All I said was that there was an option in the Appearance menu where you choose the theme that gave a choice between OpenGL and the QT engine. I thought that was what you were referring to but I guess I was mistaken.

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Dagmar:

Specifically it's called "Paint Engine"

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jason2343:

I have not changed any settings in .20 because I can't access the menu in .20 nor could I earlier.

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Dagmar:

It did not exist in 0.19.

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Dagmar:

If you had an item in called "Paint Engine" in what you thought was 0.19, you downloaded 0.20 by accident or something.

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Dagmar:

I am looking at the source _right now_

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jason2343:

no, i didn't say anything about "paint engine". I saw an option for opengl in the appearance menu. I do not remember if it said paint engine.

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jason2343:

we're probably referring to completely different options that happen to be in the same menu

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briand:

true. the paint engine is new for 0.20.. wasn't in 0.19 setup.

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Dagmar:

...and I"m talking about the Paint Engine entry

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Dagmar:

Not any other entry

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Dagmar:

I can't get any more clearer without burning it into someone's front yard.

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jason2343:

ok- so the answer is no. i didn't change it.

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Dagmar:

Did you specify anything to ./configure?

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jason2343:

no

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Dagmar:

Okay... Let's try bringing things to a know/sane state

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Dagmar:

You have an i686-class processeor, I'm sure. Are you using an nVidia card for output?

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jason2343:

yes

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jason2343:

an fx5200

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Dagmar:

s/know/known/

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Dagmar:

Same here.

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Dagmar:

Using ivtv 0.7.0?

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jason2343:

and you are correct. i have a i686 processor- an amd xp 2700+

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jason2343:

no, one sec- i'll find the ivtv version

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Dagmar:

Well, so long as you're using a version of ivtv

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jason2343:

ivtv-0.2.0-rc3j

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Dagmar:

Try this...

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jason2343:

but i'm not using XvMC for output

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a1fa|64:

load average: 2.99, 2.94, 2.44

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Dagmar:

./configure --prefix=/usr/local --arch=i686 --enable-proc-opt --enable-xvmc --enable-opengl-vsync --disable-ccache --enable-ivtv --disable-distcc --enable-lirc --enable-mmx

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a1fa|64:

:)

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Dagmar:

Hmm... I'm using libmpeg2 for output, but I let it build in xvmc support just the same

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Dagmar:

I can use XvMC for output, but it makes my OSD monochromatic (known problem)

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Dagmar:

Good lord you might want to think about upgrading your kernel and your ivtv somtime

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briand:

ivtv-0.2.0 ?? yikes! what? are you running a 2.4 kernel as well?

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jason2343:

Dagmar: I tried using XvMC a long time ago but i didn't like the monochrome OSD so i went back to libmpeg2

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jason2343:

which i would prefer to use

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Dagmar:

I'm not saying it's for sure the problem, but I have my doubts about something with stuff quite THAT old on it

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jason2343:

briand: no, 2.6.11 on debian sarge

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jason2343:

i use what works

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Dagmar:

o.O

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jason2343:

Dagmar: it was working literally an hour ago

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jason2343:

in mythtv .19

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jason2343:

ivtv shouldn't be the issue

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briand:

you can at least upgrade your ivtv to 0.4.0, under 2.6.11

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Dagmar:

So drop back to 0.19 then

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briand:

my myth box is FC3 (2.6.12) with ivtv 0.4.0

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Dagmar:

I'm having a problem believeing that ivtv version actually works with a 2.6.x kernel

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jason2343:

it isn't that old

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Dagmar:

It's almost a year old

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Dagmar:

...and it's a 0.x release that's almost a year old.

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jason2343:

what's new in the new releases?

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Dagmar:

"<jason2343> i use what works" <-- yes, 0.20 is clearly working well for you

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jason2343:

i remember it was quite a bitch getting it to work the first time

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jason2343:

Dagmar: what makes you think my issue has ANYTHING to do with ivtv?

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Dagmar:

jason2343: Because for all we know you're still using XFree 3.3.6

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Dagmar:

...because it worked so well

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jason2343:

i was recording with two tuners fine in .18 and .19 and i can STILL watch and record in .20

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scott_:

0.20 kicks ass?

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jason2343:

the only problem i'm having is with mythtv's menus. that's not even releated to IVTV.

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Dagmar:

If you want to know what's changed in ivtv in the past year, there is the Changelog: http://dl.ivtvdriver.org/ivtv/stable/ChangeLog-0.7

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jason2343:

*related

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briand:

jason2343: how did you change from your original visor theme to GANT ?

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Dagmar:

jason2343: Look man, it works for me without even a hint of a problem on the menus that came with it. This tells me (and most other people watching this) that the problem is with your system

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briand:

jason2343: (without seeing the menus)

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jason2343:

briand: i simply deleted the visor directory so it would use another theme

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Dagmar:

So stop being all hostile and defensive about the suggestion that you keeping old stuff around may be hurting you

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jason2343:

Dagmar: You apparently have a problem with logic. There may very well be a problem with my system. I never countered that there wasn't. All I said was that I don't see how the current issue is related to my ivtv version as I can still record and watch tv in mythtv using the hotkeys to access the recorded shows screen and livetv.

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Dagmar:

jason2343: You are insulting me. I thought you didn't want people to do that. You have a problem with reading. Not once did I say your problem was with ivtv.

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Dagmar:

In any case, I've had it with newbie nonsense for this evening.

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Dagmar:

I ain't wasting my time both trying to isolate technical problems AND arguing newbies out of bad behaviours.

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jason2343:

Dagmar: I think it's unfortunate when people behave with a sense of superiority and arrogance and spend their time insulting and attacking others rather than helping them.

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Dagmar:

Maybe in 24 hours when the ignore expires I'll get to see telling other people whose system works that they "have a problem with logic"

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Dagmar:

s/see/see him/

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Dagmar:

One thing is for sure, no one talks smack like that to anyone in person.

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briand:

jason2343: I dunno, man... I've been running 0.19 for a while (since Feb... 0.18.1 before that), and had no problems with disappearing menus when I compiled/installed 0.20

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Dagmar:

SOmeone pulling that at a Linux InstallFest would just be asking for an ass beatin'

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briand:

cuz that's what installfests are about... getting into brawls. :)

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jason2343:

briand:

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briand:

jason2343: so, you can see the theme, just no menu options??

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jason2343:

briand: yes, i see the theme background but nothing else and i can access the different myth options using hotkeys

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jason2343:

it seems like it's just the menu that doesn't work

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jason2343:

everything else is working

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spasmodo:

I have a RAID / LVM Q

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briand:

do you see the watermarks changing?

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jason2343:

i can scroll through recorded tv shows, see upcoming recordings, watch live tv within mythfrontend

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briand:

ie, can you blindly hit up/down and see them change?

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jason2343:

great idea

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jason2343:

i was able to select the appearance menu

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jason2343:

and change from opengl to qt

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briand:

aha...

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briand:

so you saw the watermarks, just not the text...

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jason2343:

...the same opengl paint setting that wasn't in .19 that i nonetheless set in .19

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jason2343:

i guess i have magical powers

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briand:

probably need to get some font installed or something

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briand:

jason2343: I swear, i never saw that option in 0.19 either...

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jason2343:

weird- because it was definitely .19

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jason2343:

i checked the status and it showed .19

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briand:

[shrug] but, either way.. now that it's using Qt, can you see the text in the menus?

[06:01:56]

jason2343:

in mythweb and in mythfrontend

[06:02:23]

jason2343:

nope

[06:02:27]

jason2343:

and i changed themes to blue

[06:02:28]

briand:

okay, i'm not going to argue... I never saw it before, but it may well have been there...

[06:02:33]

Dagmar:

It wasn't.

[06:02:37]

jason2343:

i see a bunch of "cannot make context current" options

[06:02:41]

jason2343:

*errors

[06:02:48]

jason2343:

after i exit mythfrontend

[06:02:57]

jason2343:

i'm running it in terminal so i can see any output given

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briand:

with -v all ??

[06:03:12]

jason2343:

ok, now it works

[06:03:21]

jason2343:

i just had to change to qt, exit, and restart mythfrontend

[06:03:27]

briand:

ah.

[06:03:31]

briand:

hmm. weird.

[06:03:41]

jason2343:

dagmar was right. i had to use qt

[06:03:52]

briand:

did you have OpenGL turned on in X for your FX5200 ?

[06:04:06]

jason2343:

not sure

[06:04:08]

jason2343:

i think so

[06:04:14]

jason2343:

as it worked in .19 with opengl

[06:04:47]

jason2343:

thank you briand

[06:04:48]

briand:

well, OpenGL is used quite a bit more in 0.20 than previously.. new/upcoming MythUI is moving towards OpenGL entirely

[06:04:55]

jason2343:

i see

[06:04:59]

briand:

you sure you didn't have 0.19-fixes ??

[06:05:17]

jason2343:

here are the files i downloaded

[06:05:23]

jason2343:

mythtv-0.19.tar.bz2

[06:05:30]

briand:

you might've been seeing an early version of the OpenGL stuff... it was there for quite a while during the development stage

[06:06:07]

a1fa|64:

who manages mythphone?

[06:06:14]

a1fa|64:

its so hard to read when a call comes in

[06:06:18]

a1fa|64:

bad color choice

[06:06:26]

a1fa|64:

can that be changed?

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jason2343:

briand: i have the commercial nvidia drivers installed for the fx5200

[06:07:15]

briand:

a1fa|64: i have no idea.. never used that module.

[06:07:18]

jason2343:

so i should have opengl support

[06:07:21]

xris:

a1fa|64: I don't think anyone does anymore.

[06:07:46]

xris:

but isn't color stuff dictated by the theme?

[06:07:59]

jason2343:

oh, and Dagmar- i have xfree86 4.3.0 if you care

[06:08:10]

briand:

jason2343: not necessarily. there's some option in your X setup that needs to be toggled to do the rendering in hw vs. sw... just read a few msgs in the mythtv-* maillists this week about it

[06:08:22]

jason2343:

any idea which one?

[06:08:39]

hjohnson:

well, I just loaded in my first tank of B20

[06:09:51]

briand:

jason2343: unfortunately, probably mythtv-users... which has been averaging about 200 messages a day since the 0.20 release

[06:10:00]

jason2343:

heh

[06:10:01]

a1fa|64:

fucking mythweb lists only 15minute interval

[06:10:03]

a1fa|64:

how do you change that

[06:10:35]

briand:

a1fa|64: it does that automatically if you use fowl language in IRC channels.

[06:10:48]

xris:

a1fa|64: settings

[06:11:03]

jason2343:

briand: any idea how i can make the fonts larger? .20 made them smaller and the font setting in appearances doesn't change the fonts in the menus

[06:11:17]

jason2343:

i think i had this issue before and i manually changed font sizes in the visor configuration

[06:11:37]

** xris wonders if a1fa|64 *ever* looks before he asks stupid questions. **

[06:11:57]

briand:

jason2343: you can do the same thing in whichever theme you're using (or going to use) ...

[06:11:57]

Dagmar:

xris: You'll make him angry

[06:12:23]

a1fa|64:

xris: i think it was a bug

[06:12:28]

a1fa|64:

xris: in my old svn

[06:12:51]

xris:

anyway, I think now that I've rebooted I can finally get back to that half-finished episode of stargate. later.

[06:13:33]

jason2343:

xris: hey xris

[06:13:35]

Dagmar:

briand: The Paint Engine option did not exist in SVN 11023, which was what was current as of Sept 3rd. He is entirely mistaken.

[06:13:46]

xris:

or not. no tv-out whatsoever. blech.

[06:13:55]

jason2343:

xris: it's been a while since i've seen you on here- but then it's been a long time since i've been here, heh

[06:14:18]

xris:

jason2343: I'm here every day. :)

[06:14:49]

jason2343:

xris: i've been pretty busy with school stuff. I was studying at Oxford for 6 months and now i'm juggling classwork and LSAT prep.

[06:15:02]

briand:

Dagmar: [shrug] i dunno... last time i looked in setup before this week was last February, and it was a one-time thing, quite early in the AM... so I have no idea what was/wasn't there. :)

[06:15:05]

xris:

sounds like fun. :)

[06:15:24]

jason2343:

heh, yup

[06:15:30]

Dagmar:

briand: I'm one of those strange guys who reads the source. I don't like leaving stuff to chance.

[06:15:37]

briand:

oh, no!! he's gonna be one of those lawyer-types...

[06:15:46]

briand:

Dagmar: heheh. :)

[06:15:51]

Dagmar:

I just checked the two interim versions of 0.19-fixes I had

[06:16:02]

briand:

Dagmar: can i talk you into building something nice for myth users, then??

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[06:16:16]

Dagmar:

Anything to avoid wading through the rest of the MySQL documention on hardening

[06:16:23]

briand:

Dagmar: a "theme editor" with preview... basically, a custom xml editor

[06:16:28]

metalac:

so anyone knows how to go around the issues with internal dvd player when xVMC is anbled?

[06:16:29]

Dagmar:

briand: I actually have perfectly serviceable MythTV packages for Slackware 10.2

[06:17:01]

Dagmar:

briand: In theory, there are things which should be able to do that already, like Inkscape

[06:17:21]

jason2343:

Dagmar: not a lawyer type- a lawyer, heh

[06:17:25]

Dagmar:

I've not the least bit of a clue how to make those tie together well enough for Inkscape to actually be able to render the stuff

[06:17:32]

briand:

and, while I'm wishing... I'd sure like to see a 'Recording Rules' summary page in mythfrontend, like xris gave us in mythweb....

[06:17:52]

Dagmar:

Oh you want me to FIX bugs

[06:18:02]

Dagmar:

er no wait, that's "add features".

[06:18:10]

jason2343:

either i'll do something interesting like working for the ACLU or EFF or make a shitload of money working for a huge lawfirm that slowly drains me of my life

[06:18:11]

briand:

Dagmar: true... but they don't know what kind of information mythfrontend passes to the themes, or what is available, etc...

[06:18:19]

Dagmar:

That would involve me writing C++ code, and you probably don't want that

[06:18:31]

briand:

jason2343: heheh. :)

[06:18:41]

Dagmar:

briand: Well, it's XML, which is kind of like saying "at least it's not in LISP"

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[06:18:58]

Dagmar:

It's plaintext, so you can read it.

[06:19:07]

briand:

Dagmar: only so far as, you type a lot of <'s and >'s, instead of ('s and )'s...

[06:19:11]

briand:

;)

[06:19:14]

Dagmar:

The themes just aren't going to make sense unless you open their parts up in multiple terminals at once

[06:19:43]

Dagmar:

Well, typically those angle brackets aren't nested quite as deeply and they have text on each end to help you keep track of which ones connect to what.

[06:19:51]

briand:

true enough.

[06:20:07]

briand:

i never played with lisp much... prolog for a bit, just on a lark

[06:20:20]

Dagmar:

This morning I was trying to work out (again) where the hell freetype gets the idea of what it thinks fonts are called

[06:20:23]

briand:

mostly pascal, c, assembler, and several dozen scripting languages, etc.

[06:20:37]

Dagmar:

I have a nice font I'd like to use, and now I get to play the fun naming game with it

[06:20:40]

jason2343:

briand: i was hoping not to manually edit the theme to change font sizes- perhaps i can find my old custom configuration somewhere

[06:20:51]

Dagmar:

Man I really forgot how bad things were before fontconfig came along

[06:20:55]

briand:

well, they can't use copyrighted names... so, no Helvetica, no Arial, no SanSerif, etc

[06:21:58]

briand:

is it a TTF or a PS font?

[06:22:06]

Dagmar:

TTF of course

[06:22:16]

Dagmar:

I know better than to try to use a postscript font on a display

[06:22:25]

briand:

the name should be embedded in the file, then

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[06:22:34]

Dagmar:

...along with a bunch of other noise.

[06:22:44]

briand:

well, yeah.. but

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briand:

re-hi, SlicerDicer-

[06:23:13]

Dagmar:

It should be Xenophone, but the ugly-ass FreeMono appearing on the screen is telling that probably it's not where Freetype is concerned

[06:23:42]

briand:

maybe it's "XenoPhone" or "XenoFone" or something close like that

[06:23:50]

metalac:

so anyone knows how to go around the issues with internal dvd player when xVMC is anbled?

[06:23:54]

Dagmar:

It shouldn't even be case-sensitive

[06:23:59]

briand:

but, then.. that'd be that "font-naming game" you spoke of earlier

[06:24:02]

SlicerDicer-:

hello briand

[06:24:04]

Dagmar:

That's just evil in the extreme

[06:24:05]

SlicerDicer-:

I had a hardlock

[06:24:11]

Dagmar:

briand: Yep

[06:24:29]

Dagmar:

I know there's a way to get ft to fess up the name, I just have to poke at things until Li rememebr

[06:24:42]

briand:

ouch! in linux?? what were you doing? blindly probing around your /proc pseudo-directory??

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jason2343:

Dagmar: thanks for the suggestion to change the paint setting from opengl

[06:25:23]

jason2343:

i think it was the only thing i changed after upgrading from .18 to .19

[06:25:40]

briand:

interestingly.. OpenGL is not supposed to work _at_all_ for me, on my PVR-350's TV-Out port... yet it does.

[06:25:49]

Dagmar:

briand: *shudder*

[06:25:51]

briand:

quite slowly, but works nonetheless.

[06:25:59]

Dagmar:

Sounds like maybe Mesa is savin' your bacon

[06:26:00]

jason2343:

though i have to say i'm glad i didn't touch ivtv. it might be a good idea to upgrade but it would not have helped solve this problem and may have screwed up my setup.

[06:26:28]

jason2343:

and now i can say it's working fine again

[06:26:29]

briand:

jason2343: nah.. 0.4.0 is probably more stable than the version you have

[06:26:46]

briand:

but you've got the right idea, in terms of a dedicated MythTV box...

[06:26:47]

jason2343:

briand: yeah, it probably is. i'll upgrade when i get a chance.

[06:26:54]

Dagmar:

I wish I could think of some way to snap copies of the screen at each repaint

[06:26:56]

jason2343:

i just didn't want to add any more possible failurepoints

[06:27:00]

briand:

once it's working, don't change things for the sake of change..

[06:27:11]

jason2343:

i was having an issue with mythtv- not ivtv. so i wanted to get that fixed first before i upgrade the driver

[06:27:24]

Dagmar:

I'm pretty sure I Know what's going wrong with the GANT theme and the fading, but I can't find the relevant code to sort it

[06:27:25]

briand:

jason2343: sure, makes sense.

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jason2343:

briand: are there known stability issues with .20? i had a problem where i was getting hard locks (kernel panics) every week or two for no apparent reason but i thought it was due to the fact that i had a via chipset

[06:28:13]

briand:

jason2343: i was running the same (approximate) version of ivtv when I first installed 0.18.1

[06:28:43]

briand:

i upgraded to 0.4.0 when it came out, because that's when the PVR-500 was first supported, and i had just bought one.

[06:29:02]

briand:

the following week after upgrading that and installing the 500.. 0.19 was released.

[06:29:17]

jason2343:

Dagmar: btw- i haven't used this machine between January, 2005 and now- so i couldn't have upgraded if i wanted to

[06:29:23]

briand:

and the system as been humming along with no other changes since then (well, until this week)

[06:30:06]

jason2343:

i installed sarge because i didn't want to have to worry about upgrading anything other than mythtv and possibly ivtv (though ivtv can be really finicky and annoying to get working)

[06:30:17]

briand:

jason2343: I've not heard of any stability issues that weren't caused by folks not installing and/or compiling things correctly.

[06:30:28]

jason2343:

probably just my via mobo

[06:30:36]

briand:

jason2343: I'm having absolutely no stability problems here... compiled from source

[06:30:37]

jason2343:

i've heard of lockups with it and mythtv

[06:31:06]

briand:

jason2343: yeah, some of the VIA chipsets don't quite follow their published specs... and don't "play well with others"

[06:31:57]

briand:

jason2343: that said, my Pundit-R has an Asus mb in it, with a via chipset on it.. and I've not had any problems

[06:32:09]

Dagmar:

I wonder is this chick who the russians are about to send into space for $20mil knows what happened to the last thing the russians tried to send into space

[06:32:13]

jason2343:

well, i'll just wait and see

[06:32:18]

jason2343:

if it crashes i'll upgrade ivtv

[06:32:23]

jason2343:

if not, i'll let it stay as is

[06:32:42]

briand:

what kind of capture card do you have?

[06:32:50]

jason2343:

btw, anyone know if winmyth works with mythtv .20?

[06:33:00]

briand:

jason2343: don't hold your breath.

[06:33:02]

jason2343:

briand: a pvr-250 and a bttv card that supports btaudio as a secondary

[06:33:10]

jason2343:

briand: so, that'a no?

[06:33:11]

briand:

no active development on winmyth in -forever-

[06:33:19]

briand:

however.. better yet.

[06:33:44]

jason2343:

pvr-250 does 95% of the recording. i just use the bttv as a backup for the times when i want to record 2 shows simultaneously

[06:34:07]

briand:

the mythweb with 0.20 has streaming support built-in... so you can navigate to your recordings in mythweb from your windows computer, and click on the show you want to watch on your windows machine.

[06:34:28]

briand:

(assuming you've configured media player [or whatever] to understand what to do with an .mpg file.

[06:34:34]

jason2343:

briand: i wanted to stream the tv to my gf's laptop so she can watch as she lost her glasses and it hurts her eyes to watch on the tv

[06:34:55]

jason2343:

and she's too cheap to buy new glasses (since she only needs them for nearsightedness- i.e. basically for movies and tv)

[06:34:55]

briand:

jason2343: well, there ya go, then. no muss, no fuss, no bother. :)

[06:35:25]

jason2343:

sweet!

[06:35:28]

jason2343:

xris did it again

[06:35:29]

jason2343:

awesome

[06:35:30]

briand:

install the new mythweb on your new 0.20 system.. and you don't need winmyth

[06:35:41]

briand:

the only thing she wont see is "Live TV"

[06:35:53]

jason2343:

i did

[06:35:57]

jason2343:

i already have it

[06:36:01]

jason2343:

but when i click on a show nothing happens

[06:36:20]

briand:

really? hmm... odd.

[06:36:22]

jason2343:

everything else appears to work. i can download the avis from mythvideo and music from mythmusic

[06:36:32]

briand:

here, it downloaded and started playing

[06:36:34]

jason2343:

briand: do i have to set something up in config/conf.php?

[06:36:55]

briand:

jason2343: you didn't just copy your old .htaccess file over the supplied one, did you?

[06:36:56]

jason2343:

xris: do i have to configure something to get the streaming to work with mythweb in .20?

[06:37:11]

jason2343:

briand: i overwrote the old mythweb dir with the new one

[06:37:13]

briand:

there's a buncha (new) stuff in the .htaccess file... you need to go thru it again.

[06:38:36]

briand:

i think you need to have mod_perl set up in your apache config now... the streamer is a cgi perl script

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jason2343:

briand: i needed to install mod_perl

[06:40:42]

jason2343:

apt-get install libapache2-mod-perl2

[06:40:45]

jason2343:

gotta love apt-get

[06:41:34]

briand:

gotta love yum even more. ;)

[06:41:54]

jason2343:

do i have to configure anything after installing it

[06:42:05]

briand:

nopes.

[06:42:09]

jason2343:

it added perl.load to /etc/apache2/mods-enabled

[06:42:13]

briand:

service httpd restart

[06:43:22]

jason2343:

/etc/init.d/apache2 restart here

[06:44:02]

jason2343:

doesn't seem to be wokring

[06:44:03]

jason2343:

*working

[06:44:55]

briand:

hmm. dunno.. i didn't have any problems.. but there may be more configuration required in your apache files...

[06:45:19]

xris:

jason2343: what streaming?

[06:45:28]

jason2343:

xris: yes

[06:45:30]

briand:

i'm not trying to be deliberately vague... just haven't touched my apache config in ages

[06:45:42]

briand:

but xris, if anybody, could certainly tell you. :)

[06:45:43]

jason2343:

i think i may just have to restart

[06:45:56]

xris:

jason2343: *what* streaming?

[06:45:58]

xris:

mythstreamtv?

[06:46:07]

jason2343:

xris: oh, i thought you said, "what, streaming?"

[06:46:12]

briand:

good lord no...

[06:46:15]

jason2343:

xris: streaming recorded tv shows

[06:46:17]

briand:

he's using mythweb.

[06:46:27]

xris:

briand: I got that, but there are 2 ways.

[06:46:28]

jason2343:

via mythweb

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xris:

there's mythstreamtv, which was broken for mythweb .19, and not updated for .20

[06:46:50]

xris:

and then there's downloading, which I guess is like streaming.

[06:46:58]

xris:

shouldn't need to configure anything.

[06:47:08]

xris:

briand: weren't you the one having the 4k issue with downloads?

[06:47:12]

jason2343:

after i installed .19 i kept getting mysql errors in some pages after restarting both the backend and apache2. i restarted the server and the problems went away. i even cleared the cache and used IE- each one behaved a bit differently

[06:47:59]

jason2343:

the backend and weather page showed the same mysql error. it didn't work at all in firefox 2.0 with the same mysql error and it showed the error in ff 1.5 on weather, backend, and log

[06:48:26]

jason2343:

but when i restarted all was well

[06:48:27]

xris:

jason2343: you still haven't answered my question.

[06:49:13]

jason2343:

xris: i'm trying to download/stream the tv shows via the mythweb interface on the recorded show page

[06:49:25]

jason2343:

"recorded programs" page

[06:49:40]

xris:

jason2343: yes, I gathered that... but you still haven't said mythstreamtv, or just download with an unmodified mythweb.

[06:49:58]

jason2343:

not mythstreamtv

[06:50:09]

jason2343:

i thought mythstreamtv was some standalone app

[06:50:10]

jason2343:

sorry

[06:50:24]

jason2343:

all i've installed is mythweb

[06:50:38]

xris:

.19 or .20?

[06:50:49]

jason2343:

.20

[06:51:02]

xris:

what what's the trouble?

[06:51:27]

briand:

xris: yes. still happening here, even with the patch. strange..

[06:51:34]

jason2343:

when i click on the picture of the show it loads something for a second and then says done

[06:51:37]

xris:

briand: weird

[06:51:38]

jason2343:

but i can't download the show

[06:51:51]

xris:

jason2343: do you have perl installed on your webserver?

[06:51:53]

xris:

and loads what?

[06:51:55]

jason2343:

however in the video and the music sections i can download

[06:52:01]

xris:

do you get a "save as" download prompt, etc?

[06:52:11]

jason2343:

xris: it just shows a loading bar like it's going to load a new page and says done

[06:52:13]

xris:

video and music are separate handlers.

[06:52:29]

xris:

error log?

[06:52:31]

briand:

xris: agreed. i'll try grabbing the amended script directly from SVN and see what happens... maybe, despite visual inspection of the perl file, it didn't get patched correctly here or something

[06:52:58]

jason2343:

xris: no, i do not get a "save as" dialog

[06:53:01]

xris:

briand: ok. it's still only in trunk — I don't think I moved that specific commit into stable

[06:53:07]

jason2343:

xris: where would the error log be?

[06:53:10]

jason2343:

apache's log?

[06:53:20]

xris:

jason2343: what's the URL that fails?

[06:53:28]

xris:

and yes, apache's error_log file (usually called that)

[06:53:43]

briand:

xris: but i can poke around on the SVN pages and find/download it, right? I don't have to SVN a whole new version for it...

[06:54:08]

jason2343:

xris: i see what's happening. it's reloading the page

[06:54:25]

jason2343:

xris: if i scroll down the page and click a show it'll reload and go back to the top of the same page

[06:54:36]

jason2343:

http://192.168.0.5/mythweb/tv/recorded

[06:54:47]

xris:

briand: yeah, just modules/stream/handler.pl (or something like that)

[06:54:47]

jason2343:

it shows that URL when i mouse over the show

[06:54:56]

xris:

jason2343: you need to upgrade

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briand:

xris: gotcha.. i'll grab it tomorrow and play with it some, before college football starts up and occupies the rest of my saturday. :)

[06:55:17]

jason2343:

i thought i did

[06:55:18]

jason2343:

heh

[06:55:18]

xris:

check out mythweb from the .20-fixes branch in svn

[06:55:26]

xris:

I fixed that bug a day or two ago

[06:55:41]

xris:

or you'll have to wait a few weeks for .20.1

[06:55:49]

jason2343:

xris: i download the mythplugins.20a.tar.bz2

[06:55:52]

jason2343:

package

[06:55:56]

jason2343:

isn't that the patched one?

[06:56:07]

briand:

i've also manually changed the style.css file, per the posting in the -dev list a couple days back... firefox appreciated it. :)

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jason2343:

oh, i was thinking of the bug from .20 fixed on the 11th

[06:57:40]

briand:

jason2343: you'll probably also want (once you get it going) the newer streaming perl file, as above... unless your GF is colorblind as well. :)

[06:57:42]

xris:

jason2343: no. that's not all of the recent fixes

[06:58:09]

xris:

briand: well, if he checks out from svn, once I merge it, he can just svn up and get the changes.

[06:58:27]

briand:

true enough.

[06:59:02]

Puh:

i'm running the backend with -v eit,siparser,channel and i'm seeing a lot of 2006-09–16 09:50:44.156 match[0]: 0 '' vs. ''

[06:59:06]

jason2343:

installing subversion now, heh

[06:59:22]

jason2343:

thanks for your help xris

[06:59:26]

xris:

:)

[06:59:29]

jason2343:

and thank you for your help too briand

[06:59:30]

briand:

xris: while i have your ear — am I just missing it, or is there really nothing similar to the "Recording Schedules" screen in mythfrontend?

[06:59:41]

Puh:

i'm not getting any eit data on some channels

[06:59:44]

briand:

jason2343: you're quite welcome... glad you're getting things running there

[06:59:52]

xris:

briand: ?

[07:00:03]

xris:

no clue. I don't use the frontend except for watching recordings.

[07:00:42]

briand:

xris: ah.. i kinda wish that feature were there.. i can see where i can create all kinds of rules... but no way to list out what the current rules are

[07:00:49]

briand:

pretty much have to go to mythweb to see that.

[07:01:27]

xris:

why do you think I wrote mythweb? heh. (well, fixed it)

[07:01:58]

briand:

i dunno.. i've been under that impression for a while now.. you didn't?

[07:02:08]

jason2343:

xris: awesome, it works now

[07:02:34]

jason2343:

i just need to reboot to get the new windows file associations to work

[07:02:45]

jason2343:

thanks for your help

[07:02:57]

xris:

:)

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xris:

now if only I could get mp4/h264 encoding working properly

[07:03:16]

xris:

it seemingly just doesn't like 512 width.

[07:03:47]

briand:

i don't think i have enough processing power/patience to even attempt transcoding to mp4

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xris:

it's only 1–2 fps slower than xvid for me

[07:06:05]

xris:

and it means not having to transcode twice — once for avi and once for ipod

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** hjohnson hums and haws over spending $350 on a cable for his car **

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xris:

now I guess I'm left with either cropping overscan from my my 528x480 sources to get 496x464, or not cropping and just keeping the overscan weirdness

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briand:

actually, i've never tried an xvid transcode, either.. i've used the 'lossless' mpeg2->mpeg2 transcode, and that's about it... but that's just a modified file copy.. takes only a minute or so to run

[07:12:13]

xris:

nuvexport

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xris:

:)

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xris:

it's slow

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jasonwc:

xris: well, i'm getting closer

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jasonwc:

it shows myth:192.168.0.5/blah.mpg

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jasonwc:

when i click it seems like it's going to start streaming but WMP immediately complains saying that it cannot open the file and i should verify the path

[07:15:27]

jasonwc:

when i try to download it by right clicking and choosing "save as", it just sits at "starting..."

[07:15:36]

xris:

yeah. you shouldn't be getting that

[07:15:45]

xris:

that URL is wrong

[07:16:09]

jasonwc:

it looks like a random string of numbers

[07:16:25]

jasonwc:

what should it say?

[07:16:32]

xris:

run this in the db: DELETE FROM settings WHERE value='WebVideo_URL';

[07:16:39]

jasonwc:

myth _192.168.0.5 65431035_20060916001813.mpg

[07:17:33]

xris:

?

[07:17:44]

jasonwc:

that's what the filename is when i try to download it

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jasonwc:

xris: ok, i ran that in the db

[07:19:02]

xris:

now see what the URL is.

[07:19:18]

jasonwc:

do i have to run another command to make it save the setting or can i just type "exit"

[07:19:28]

briand:

auto-commit is on by default.

[07:19:55]

jasonwc:

ok

[07:20:23]

jasonwc:

same problem

[07:20:47]

jasonwc:

still myth://192.168.0.5:stringofnumbers.nuv

[07:21:51]

briand:

auth_rewrite ??

[07:21:56]

jasonwc:

do i need to change anything in .htaccess?

[07:22:15]

xris:

no

[07:22:32]

jasonwc:

i just copied the mythweb dir from svn and changed permissions

[07:22:38]

jasonwc:

earlier

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xris:

ok, in includes/utils.php, comment out lines 327 and 328. starts with: if ($video_url)

[07:23:16]

jasonwc:

briand: were you asking if i have mod_rewrite loaded?

[07:23:16]

briand:

did you change permissions (and ownership, perhaps) on all the subdirectories and stuff within?

[07:23:28]

jasonwc:

i believe i do. i added rewrite.load to /etc/apache2/mods-available

[07:23:31]

xris:

briand: shouldn't matter — he's actually getting the wrong URL generated.

[07:23:42]

briand:

jasonwc: yes, and also asking xris if that would cause the url madness

[07:23:47]

jasonwc:

briand: i think i changed it for the whole mythweb dir

[07:24:05]

briand:

xris: or, really, not getting one generated.

[07:24:27]

jasonwc:

i think i did chmod 777 since there is no apache group and nogroup didn't work

[07:24:31]

xris:

briand: well, it's acting like he has a manual override, except that it's acting like the override is blank.

[07:24:37]

briand:

should be <ip addr>/mythweb/pl/stream/1838281910 or somesuch, yes?

[07:24:38]

xris:

and it shouldn't DO that.

[07:24:43]

xris:

briand: yes

[07:24:46]

xris:

except for a windows box

[07:26:13]

jasonwc:

still the same problem after commenting those lines in utils.php

[07:26:49]

jasonwc:

can you comment with # in a php file?

[07:27:01]

briand:

usually.

[07:27:36]

briand:

(not being a smartass... it depends on how the php file was written — if it's embedded in html, no... if it's plain php, yes)

[07:27:37]

jasonwc:

what would be better?

[07:27:46]

xris:

jasonwc: # // or /* */

[07:28:04]

xris:

briand: php is *always* embedded in html

[07:28:24]

xris:

or rather, the other way around.

[07:28:34]

xris:

jasonwc: ok, that's really weird

[07:28:42]

jasonwc:

ok i added // before

[07:28:50]

jasonwc:

if ($video_url)

[07:29:00]

jasonwc:

and return $video_url.str_replace...

[07:29:09]

xris:

jasonwc: are you getting myth:// or http:// in the URL?

[07:29:12]

jasonwc:

do i have to do anything after that?

[07:29:18]

jasonwc:

i restarted apache

[07:29:32]

jasonwc:

myth://

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xris:

oh, then it's working properly

[07:29:45]

xris:

you're running windows. means you need dsmyth installed

[07:30:01]

jasonwc:

i do

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briand:

xris: works either way.. you can <?php whatever> in the midst of an html form as well as having php spit out html..

[07:30:15]

xris:

something's not configured properly, then.

[07:30:31]

jasonwc:

i have winmythtvfilters-10 from the dsmyth site

[07:30:33]

xris:

briand: it's all the same. think of ?> as the same as "echo"

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jasonwc:

xris: the filter configuration shows that .nuvs should open in wmp 6.4.2 and it does

[07:31:55]

xris:

the php is only the part between <?php and ?> — and php comments work properly there. everything else is html (or javascript)

[07:31:59]

jasonwc:

it just says the link is bad

[07:32:18]

jasonwc:

WMP error: Cannot open. Please verify that the path and filename are correct and try again.

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briand:

xris: agreed.

[07:32:21]

xris:

jasonwc: you need more than just the decoders. it needs to understand the myth:// protocol

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xris:

I don't know how to deal with dsmyth, though. no windows.

[07:33:40]

jasonwc:

A collection of DirectShow filters and applications that enables playback of MythTV files on windows.

[07:33:40]

jasonwc:

Theidea is to make almost any mediaplayer able to handle mythtv filesincluding streaming files from the backend and wathching livetv.

[07:33:44]

briand:

i have a windows box here (only one), but haven't even looked at dsmyth yet...

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jasonwc:

that's what the site says

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jasonwc:

and the program says it's connected to the mythbackend mysql server

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xris:

jasonwc: myth:// is "streaming from the backend"

[07:35:10]

xris:

dsmyth is supposed to understand the myth streaming protocol, so it gets fed the direct URI rather than a downloadable web link

[07:35:13]

jasonwc:

i know- and it says it can establish a connection to the mysql server

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xris:

jasonwc: if you want to just download things, then comment out the "if... linux..." line 330 in utils.php

[07:37:04]

xris:

then it'll only ever give you the raw download link

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jasonwc:

i would prefer to stream as it's 3.2 gb/hr

[07:38:09]

jasonwc:

if i have the dhmyth filters and it says it can connect to the mythconverg db, what could be the problem?

[07:40:35]

jasonwc:

This is a filter that connects to mythbackend and streams the files directly over the network. This version of the filter is designed to work with version 0.18 of mythtv and will not work with older or newer versions.

[07:40:36]

jasonwc:

crap

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jasonwc:

xris: can i use mythtv .18 with mythweb from svn?

[07:42:13]

jasonwc:

seems like that's the only combo that will work

[07:42:15]

xris:

no

[07:42:32]

xris:

there is no difference between "stream" and "download"

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jasonwc:

if i set it to download, i'll have an http link that i can use without dhmyth, right

[07:43:03]

jasonwc:

*?

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xris:

assuming you have mpg files and not nuv ones

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briand:

i gotta go to bed... it's quarter to four already... g'nite/g'mornin' all...

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jasonwc:

xris: that works

[07:45:09]

jasonwc:

hmm, is it possible to stream an mpeg- so i can start watching before it completes downloading?

[07:45:52]

xris:

just point your player at the URL

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jasonwc:

now i get a new error- "ClassFactory cannot supply requested class"

[07:46:19]

jasonwc:

with the nuv file

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jasonwc:

i think i may need to restart again as i installed the cvs version of dhmyth a few minutes ago

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jasonwc:

brb

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jasonwc:

thanks for the help. it looks like it's almost working now

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jason2343:

no luck

[07:54:08]

jason2343:

getting the same error

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xris:

if you can't play the nuv, it really sounds to me like dsmyth is broken

[07:56:31]

jason2343:

seems like it is

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jason2343:

i'm going to download it and see if it'll play it

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jason2343:

maybe the problem is streaming in wmp 6.4 which it uses by default

[07:57:05]

jason2343:

does mythtv .20 use .mpeg files by default now?

[07:57:13]

jason2343:

i just noticed the last two shows are mpg while the others are nuv

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jason2343:

and rather than having random numbers as a filename it has the name of the tv show and episode name

[07:58:21]

xris:

.20 uses the mpg suffix if your card encodes mpg files, just like .19

[07:58:49]

xris:

the filename happens during download — one of the things I put into mythweb's new download handler

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jason2343:

ok, i just installed .19 and .20 today. before i was using .18

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xris:

nuv files come from software encoder cards, or if you transcoded to mpeg4

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jason2343:

they're all from a pvr-250

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jason2343:

so they're all mpeg2

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jason2343:

did .18 do it differently?

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xris:

you can grab mythrename.pl from contrib and run it on your db, it'll fix the suffix"

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xris:

.18 and earlier called everything .nuv regardless of what the file actually was.

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jason2343:

ok

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jason2343:

lol, it plays fine in wmp 10 and in vlc

[08:03:16]

jason2343:

and in wmp 6.4

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jason2343:

both the nuv file and the mpeg

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jason2343:

i just had to dl it first

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xris:

yeah, mythweb detects the nuv suffix and sends the mime type as nupplevideo

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xris:

wmp respects that and claims not to know what the file is, rather than looking at the actual file data

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jasonwc:

i just said ignore filename and it plays

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jasonwc:

the question is why it refuses to stream

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jasonwc:

but plays fine after downloading

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xris:

because it respects the mime type sent by the server

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xris:

just run mythrename on your files and fix things so they're actually mpg files

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jasonwc:

i'm trying with an mpg now

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xris:

mythrename.pl --format '%c_%Y%m%d%H%i%s'

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xris:

just run that and it'll fix your recording filenames

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jasonwc:

ok

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jasonwc:

unfortunately, wmp doesn't seem to want to stream the mpeg

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jasonwc:

maybe it's too large

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xris:

could be

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jasonwc:

it just sits at connecting and is transferring a lot of data. i set the buffer time to 5 seconds which should load very quickly

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xris:

windows doesn't like big files

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jasonwc:

transfer rate during download with 5–10 MB/sec

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jasonwc:

streaming works fine in vlc

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Dagmar:

VLC doesn't need to stream

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Dagmar:

VLC will merrily fake it over http

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jasonwc:

i see

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jasonwc:

any way to get it to stream via the browser or do i need to copy the link to vlc?

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Dagmar:

VLC is what you need to use, not WMP

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xris:

stream and download are *literally* the same thing

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xris:

if wmp can't handle an http stream, it just can't.

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jasonwc:

but it seems neither firefox nor IE will load the mpeg into vlc or wmp before downloading it completely

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Dagmar:

Well, with what WMp is probably expecting is a dedicated mms server that it can request blocks of data from

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Dagmar:

jasonwc: So change your mime types around

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jasonwc:

xris: i'm receiving an error that mythrename.pl doesn't exist even though i'm in contrib and i can see it when i do ls

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jasonwc:

Dagmar: how so? it doesn't seem to matter what i open it with, and i dont' see an option to enable it to open directly in an application

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xris:

jasonwc: make sure you use ./myth...

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xris:

"current directory" is rarely in the path

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jasonwc:

got it, i had to do ./mythrename.pl

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jasonwc:

sorry for repeating what you said. i figured out what i needed to do and then saw your comment.

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jasonwc:

awesome, all the names are good now

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xris:

yeah.

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jasonwc:

now it's streaming with almost no delay to cache

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jasonwc:

very smooth

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jasonwc:

only problem is that i can't move from place to place in the file. i can only ff or rw

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jasonwc:

at least with streaming over windows file shares you can go to any point in the video that you want

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jasonwc:

is that not possible with vlc?

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Dagmar:

you are not streaming

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Dagmar:

You are downloading

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xris:

place to place is all up to the client. I mde sure the serverside stuff works

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xris:

"streaming over windows file shares" is not streaming.. it's local file access.

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Dagmar:

VLC should be quite able to skip to any point in a file it's accessing over SMB

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jasonwc:

got it

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jasonwc:

so it's a limitation of not having local access

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jasonwc:

and not being able to access over the myth protocol

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Dagmar:

No, it's a matter of you downloading over HTTP

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jasonwc:

i see

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Kelerion:

morning guys

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jasonwc:

morning

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Kelerion:

I've been having me a think about a new feature for mythmusic.. thought I'd run it by you lot before having a look into it further

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jasonwc:

is there any way to force firefox to load the mpeg in vlc immediately before downloading? I don't see a mime type for mpeg in firefox 1.5 or 2.0 which is strange.

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gardengnome:

Kelerion: did you take a look at that mythmusic sommer of code project?

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Kelerion:

yup.. this is something else

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Kelerion:

I was thinking about looking into writing maybe a MythKaraoke type plugin.. but then I realised that mythmusic does pretty much it all.. all it would need would be a new visualisation that read a .kar file (the standard for karaoke) and displayed it

[08:27:58]

xris:

Dagmar: seeking http streams works fine

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xris:

depends on the client

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Dagmar:

xris: I make no claims of warranty or usability about the webserver of $random_users

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xris:

webserver doesn't matter. the perl cgi download handler does the work

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xris:

or rather, shouldn't matter.

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Dagmar:

I know VLC can do these things.

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Dagmar:

I also know that if I blink twice, someone will find new and interesting ways to break things

[08:30:05]

Kelerion:

can anyone see anything wrong with that approach?

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gardengnome:

Kelerion: there is a mythkaraoke, i think. http://mythextra.napsi.net/mythKaraoke.html – not sure if it'll work with 0.20, though

[08:30:15]

Kelerion:

oh

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jasonwc:

btw, is 7 mbit/sec overkill for an mpeg-2 bitrate on the pvr-250?

[08:30:45]

** Kelerion has a look at it **

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jasonwc:

it averages about 3.2 gb/hour which is excessive. what bitrate do you guys use for mpeg2?

[08:30:51]

Kelerion:

not heard of it before

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xris:

jasonwc: probably.

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xris:

jasonwc: I did about 2G/hour back when I still encoded stuff.

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Kelerion:

brb.. need to reboot

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jasonwc:

xris: so, i should be able to change to a different point in the video while streaming in vlc?

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jasonwc:

well, as you said beforre- really just downloading

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xris:

jasonwc: should, yes. no clue if you can, though. I just know that xine can.

[08:31:55]

HeMan:

Hi! Is UPnP enabled by default in 0.20?

[08:32:07]

xris:

but only if you point it at the URL, not the partially-downloading file.

[08:32:25]

kieran491:

is there any good documentation on how to set up mythtv slave and master under gentoo?

[08:33:23]

xris:

kieran491: remove the "under gentoo" part and the official docs should cover it well enough

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kieran491:

mmk

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Puh:

can anyone help me with eit data problems?

[08:35:16]

Puh:

the logs indicate that the backend tunes the channels correctly and attempts to gather eit data from all configured muxes

[08:35:47]

Puh:

but for some reason the program guide gets eit data from one mux only

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Puh:

i'm running the backend with -v eit,channel,record,siparser

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Kelerion:

gardengnome, that page says "does not display lyrics yet" will look into it further but would have thought that would be a fundamental function for a karaoke player

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kieran491:

setting up mythv-setup just wondering what exactualy this means

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kieran491:

QSqlQuery::exec: database not open

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Hoxzer:

Has somebody here setup mythweb with mobile interface?

[08:47:55]

jasonwc:

heh, this is great. now i can stream tv over the brandeis network and watch it at the library over my vpn

[08:48:06]

HeMan:

Hoxzer: I used it with myth 0.19

[08:48:22]

Hoxzer:

HeMan: what name does it have?

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jasonwc:

can even do it over SSH off a usb key

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HeMan:

Hoxzer: I just entered the URL in my WAP-reader

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Hoxzer:

HeMan: Yeah, but my mobile only supports xhtml :/

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Hoxzer:

It will look really fuzzy if I just connect to default interface

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HeMan:

ah, to bad...

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Hoxzer:

....

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degreseven:

i'm having a problem with mythfilldatabase. it appears to be running, and reports that it was successful, but i have no guide data.

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kieran491:

sill question i bet but

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kieran491:

I am trying to connect to a database on another computer of mine and i keep geting this error ` Access denied for user 'root'@'Weee' (using password: NO) ` how do i fix or correct this?

[09:04:35]

kieran491:

its a mythtv database

[09:08:11]

degreseven:

its a mysql database

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degreseven:

type 'myql -u username -p'

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degreseven:

to see if you can connect to it

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degreseven:

without mythtv

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kieran491:

yeah

[09:09:55]

kieran491:

it works

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HeMan:

yeah, the channel switching in LiveTV with 0.20 is waaay faster!

[09:10:21]

degreseven:

and you have all the ips & everything set up right?

[09:11:02]

kieran491:

yep

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kieran491:

set the ips

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degreseven:

i had the same problem, im trying to remember what i did.....

[09:12:18]

degreseven:

crap

[09:12:21]

kieran491:

eheh

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degreseven:

you're sure mythtv is using the same user/pass?

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kieran491:

WTF was that?!

[09:13:23]

degreseven:

what?

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jontydog:

hi all is it possible to get adept to download and install version 0.20?

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degreseven:

i'm still waiting for an ebuild for my gentoo install =(

[09:16:18]

kieran491:

ohh some one just came home and forgot to say hi to me so i thought one of the computers was about to explode because the fire alarm went off because there cooking :|

[09:16:41]

degreseven:

lol

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kieran491:

ahh life is greate

[09:18:14]

kieran491:

would it have anything to do with

[09:18:15]

kieran491:

grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"192.168.1.%" identified by "mythtv";?

[09:18:41]

degreseven:

i have no idea, i'm terrible with mysql

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kieran491:

lol k

[09:19:04]

degreseven:

but i seem to remember it being some sort of permissions thing with the mysql user

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kieran491:

hmmm

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Puh:

it seems that the only mux to get eit data has a non null networkid in the database

[09:29:04]

jontydog:

can I add a depository to adept so it downloads and installs release 0.20?

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gardengnome:

jontydog: you neglect to mention your distro...

[09:50:06]

jontydog:

sorry m8 its Kubuntu

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jontydog:

6.06

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gardengnome:

there are some repos, yes. for example hamsta's... but these packages are still quite "experimental'". you should only try them when you're prepared for broken stuff :)

[09:51:55]

jontydog:

mine is already broken lol

[09:52:13]

jontydog:

I think hamstas is already in my list

[09:52:27]

jontydog:

but when I fetch updates the new mythtv isn't there

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gardengnome:

yeah. it's in its own repo.

[09:52:44]

gardengnome:

look here: http://de.mythtvtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=975

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jontydog:

cheers looking now

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jontydog:

so I can add that to repos in adept and it should find the newest version?

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gardengnome:

yes, i'd think so

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jontydog:

got it from the testing repo cheers

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jontydog:

:)

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gardengnome:

have fun

[10:02:09]

jontydog:

will do had enough fun installing 0.19

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jontydog:

lol

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jontydog:

problems already with it :(

[10:34:16]

Dagmar:

Upgrate to 0.20

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gardengnome:

like, what?

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Dagmar:

s/grate/grade/;

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jontydog:

mysql errors

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jontydog:

database not open

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jontydog:

I run mythtv setup first don't I?

[10:37:24]

Puh:

if anyone can help me debugging eit data gathering that would be greatly appreciated ..?

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Puh:

i know that eithelper only gets dvbeventinformationtables for the single mux that gets working eit data

[10:41:14]

Puh:

but i don't know why eithelper isn't fed any data from other muxes

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** Juski takes a breather from smashing up his old shed **

[10:42:37]

Juski:

good job I'm not scared of spiders!

[10:44:30]

Puh:

i'm going slightly mad here trying to figure this out

[10:45:39]

Juski:

dismantle an old shed.. good for the soul ;)

[10:46:01]

Juski:

puh: you're not in Australia are you?

[10:46:46]

Juski:

just if you are... EIT is of no use to anybody there other than now/next data AFAIK

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** Juski goes back to 'gardening' **

[10:50:35]

Puh:

no, i'm in finland

[10:50:59]

Puh:

mythtv-users list discussed the ttv/elisa network having some problems with the eit data

[10:51:07]

Puh:

but pre-0.20 the eit data worked fine

[10:51:41]

Puh:

the channels i want are on muxes and for some reason only on mux gets the eit data

[10:51:59]

Puh:

i'm trying to trace why but it's a bit hard

[10:53:36]

gardengnome:

Puh: might wanna talk to stuarta or someone else who knows the eit stuff.

[10:54:03]

Puh:

sure

[10:54:21]

Puh:

i could gather some data if i only knew what to do

[10:55:49]

Dagmar:

And this data is important to you?

[10:56:15]

Dagmar:

Nevermind. Bad Eliza joke in the making there

[10:58:59]

Puh:

mythtv-setup fails to set up other than the single working mux

[10:59:27]

Puh:

maybe that would be a good place to start examining

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Pete__:

Updated to mythtv 0.20, when I try and start mythtv-setup over ssh all I get loading is the main background of the theme, nothing else. Has anyone else seen something similar to this?

[11:05:14]

Puh:

well at least its slooow

[11:05:18]

Puh:

so be patient

[11:05:51]

Pete__:

Puh : Is that directed at me?

[11:06:41]

Puh:

yes

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Pete__:

but I can navigate into sub menus it seems, and i've never had any trouble with mythtv-setup over ssh before..

[11:07:41]

Puh:

ok

[11:11:04]

Puh:

the mythtv-setup says "Found channel but it doesn't match existing tsid. You may wish to delete existing channels and do a full scan."

[11:11:14]

Puh:

and this when doing a full scan of course :)

[11:11:31]

Puh:

and the database is empty so no conflicts there

[11:11:42]

fish_:

re

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psofa:

damn ! why did i upgrade?

[11:15:11]

psofa:

someone pls ban me from svn access :P

[11:20:07]

psofa:

anyone cares to look at some pastebin lines? my dvb-s stopped working :/ http://pastebin.ca/172881

[11:20:23]

janneg:

psofa: still the min/max problem?

[11:22:19]

psofa:

i didnt work on it yesterdat

[11:22:22]

psofa:

i went to be

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psofa:

*bed

[11:22:28]

psofa:

just woke up :P

[11:22:29]

janneg:

yeah, the min/max frecencies haven't changed, they are in kernel

[11:22:51]

psofa:

maybe i had this error from before and didnt pay attention to it

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psofa:

because i didnt change kernel

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psofa:

so its not that

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psofa:

ty

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Hoxzer:

:)

[11:23:26]

Hoxzer:

:D damn it feels to have broken lirc

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Hoxzer:

*feelse ..good even

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janneg:

and your frequencies are odd. I don't think we have saved the freqencies for dvb-s with 100hz as unit

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psofa:

janneg, im pretty sure it worked befire i upgraded

[11:24:40]

psofa:

and it was working from the beginning

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gardengnome:

Juski: have you seen mythtv 0.20 for zenslack yet?

[11:25:34]

janneg:

psofa: can you try to remove 1 zero from the frequency in DB?

[11:25:43]

psofa:

janneg, sure

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psofa:

i need to reread the sql statements because i dont remember shit

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psofa:

janneg, what about the diseqc errors? i dont even have one

[11:26:56]

janneg:

UPDATE dtv_multiplex SET frequency = 1107500 WHERE frequency = 11075000;

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psofa:

:/ that was easy :P

[11:28:58]

janneg:

psofa: diseqc has changed, you might need to renew the diseqc configuration

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kieran491:

i am just wondering what module i will need to compile for my gentoo but my tv card is not the norm its a DVB the infomation i got off the card was

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kieran491:

woops never mind

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fdlinux:

hi

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fdlinux:

is the new 0.20 version of mythtv the one that was worked on during the summer ?

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psofa:

janneg, lol it was the diseqc thing

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psofa:

now i dont even get the warning

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psofa:

feel stupid :/

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psofa:

the first time i went to the diseqc configuration i chose lnb and didnt click on finish to save :D

[11:37:18]

fdlinux:

anyeone

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HeMan:

i got opengl to work in the menues and in mythphont, but now i cant play any video-content

[11:40:20]

HeMan:

and i get "scheduling while atomic:" in my kernel-message-log

[11:40:40]

fish_:

does the mythtv-backend lock the sounddevice? so that i cant even play audio with a other app?

[11:41:31]

psofa:

fish_, dont think so

[11:41:33]

HeMan:

fish_: i have mpd and i can play music with that even when i have myth running

[11:42:13]

HeMan:

fish_: i haven't tried what happends if it plays music when i try to watch anything

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fish_:

ok.. well, i had asterisk running and no sound with mythtv.. maybe asterisk has locked the record source...

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psofa:

fish_, erm

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psofa:

maybe it just muted it

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fish_:

well.. maybe.. i think i'v checked that

[11:45:03]

fish_:

+but

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Juski:

gawd I've not sweated this much since I was at work yesterday

[11:47:27]

gardengnome:

Juski: yep. i should talk to panzaeron about that.

[11:48:15]

Juski:

knucking fackered & we've not even cleared the mess up yet, let alone put the new shed up

[11:49:32]

Juski:

btw I solved the random reboot issue by swapping my PSU out. I need a 350W PSU which _actually_ _delivers_ 350W on the rails that matter

[11:50:24]

Juski:

Athlon XP 2800, nvidia fx5200, 2 HDDs & a DVD writer should not take 350W even flat out

[11:51:25]

fdlinux:

i am going to record someting of composite , but i see that its default just one hour recording , but the video is more then 1 hour , how do i change the default setting ?

[11:51:47]

Juski:

fdlinux: schedule a recording manually then edit it later

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fdlinux:

i tried that , but then i can't choose composite

[11:52:54]

Juski:

you could make a dummy channel

[11:53:14]

Juski:

or if you have a pvr card, stop mythbackend and do cat /dev/video0 > foo.mpeg

[11:53:27]

Juski:

mythtv == pvr != vcr

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fish_:

ah. i still have mythtv setup to use oss i think

[11:53:46]

fdlinux:

i made a dummy channel , but somehow its not linked to composite

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Juski:

fdlinux: then you didn't do it right

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fish_:

what do need to put in the audio device field when running mythtv-setup/tv cards?

[11:54:39]

Juski:

make a new source, then assign the dummy channel to that

[11:55:01]

Juski:

that was for fdlinux btw ^^

[11:55:33]

Juski:

right, better get back to it. hope you're having fun today gardengnome :)

[11:55:43]

fish_:

and whats for me? ;)

[11:56:20]

fish_:

i cant select something like ALSA:....

[11:57:57]

fish_:

the howto isnt very helpfull at that "Choose the appropriate settings for your particular tuner."

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fish_:

ALSA:default seams not to work :/

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paladine:

w00p

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paladine:

my schedule recordings worked :)

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fish_:

well.. than i'll try to change the database by hand..

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paladine:

must to set them not to expire :)

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paladine:

my first 3 New Yankee Workshop recordings :)

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fish_:

that does not work eighter...

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fish_:

and on the wiki i only find how to setup alsa for the frontend...

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gardengnome:

fish_: i think i've heard recording will always use OSS

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fish_:

really?!

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fish_:

can anyone confirm that?

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Juski:

alsa does oss emulation though so I guess it wouldn't be a problem

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Juski:

_guess_

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Juski:

another great reason not to use crappy software encodererererers

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Juski:

:)

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fish_:

than buy me a better one :P

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psofa:

erm something is wrong with mythweb and channels with the same channum :/ when many channels from different inputs have the same channum it will display only one of them :/

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Juski:

I keep all my channum different, so I dunno how that'd work for you

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psofa:

damn

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** psofa kicks his box **

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psofa:

time to hack mythweb

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gardengnome:

psofa: i think this issue comes up regularly... might wanna search the ML

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psofa:

ty

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psofa:

gardengnome, well i havent found anything matching except from one 1 year old thread that mentions the problem but with no answer :/

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briand:

I thought the channum was = to 'xxyy' where xx=source input number and 'yy'=that sources channel #, so that things like that would be less likely.

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paladine:

hey gardengnome I came up with a scheduling solution until I can get my ir blaster sorted out :)

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briand:

or, perhaps it's actually xyyy, to allow for up to 999 channels per source...

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briand:

in any event, if the channels are from different sources, they shouldn't collide

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psofa:

briand, well thats actually pretty annoying so i changed the channums to something more comfortable :P

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psofa:

eww found the cause

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psofa:

$Channels[$channel_data['chanid']] = new Channel($channel_data);

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psofa:

$Callsigns[$channel_data['callsign']] = $channel_data['chanid'];

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psofa:

not having ever seen php again i suppose this saves the channel in an array using the channum as index

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psofa:

so it assumes channels cant have the same channum

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psofa:

:/

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briand:

a safe assumption, since the channum was (before your change) unique per input. why did it annoy you so?

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psofa:

im not used to see my channels as 579

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psofa:

damn !now im gonna have to fix it alone

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psofa:

anyone with php knowlegde willing to make a little change for me

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psofa:

particularly a nice iterator which is gonna be ++'d

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psofa:

success!

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psofa:

any mythweb guy around? i have an innocent quick fix for multiple channels on same channum

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psofa:

and im too bored to file a bug report :/

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[311]:

Hey, anyone know why during boot on Knoppmyth r5c7, i'm getting "/linuxrc: out of file descriptors" and "attempted to kill init" and then won't boot?

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[311]:

This has happened on my old hardware, and all new hardware.

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Juski:

[311]: try a different distro. sometimes 'one size fits all' kernels aren't the best

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[311]:

It worked just fine before until I "redid" my box.

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[311]:

Would increasing the number of file descriptors fox this?

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Juski:

maybe

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Pete__:

Trying to build mythplugins now.. It seems to get to mythgallery, but I get "ld: cannot find -lXmu"

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Pete__:

I guess it could be some Xorg devel package im missing..

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[311]:

So it seems my problem above stems from bad unstable repositories and installing dvd+rw tools with them.

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paladine:

quick question

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Tommck:

hey.... the #dvb channel is dead... can someone help with this: "Can someone tell me why azap gets FE_HAS_LOCK status, but "cat /dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0 > /tmp/hd0.mpg" comes up with a zero-length file? (pchdtv HD3000 on Ubundut Dapper)"

[15:14:45]

paladine:

I am setting up tomorrows schedule, I have a couple of consecutive recordings, but I set them all tostart 1 minute early, however it is still giving me conflicts

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Tommck:

paladine – got em ending one minute early too?

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paladine:

I could just set it to record both shows in one file, but I would prefer to have them in their own files

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paladine:

no I guess I should do that

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Tommck:

yep :)

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Tommck:

so... any DVB help here? :)

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paladine:

is it possible to set a profile so that everything starts one minute early and finishes 1 minute early?

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Tommck:

paladine – no idea

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paladine:

save me having to set them everytime

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Tommck:

paladine – sounds like you just need to fix your clock :)

[15:17:26]

paladine:

nothnig to do with theclock

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paladine:

the shows are consecutive

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Tommck:

so?

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paladine:

so I can't set a show to record for 29 minutes, the recording times are in 5 minute blocks

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Tommck:

I don't get the reason for starting a minute early

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GreyFoxx:

You can padd both ends of a recording yes

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paladine:

tomm, because a show that is scheduled to end at 8am ends several minutes before 8am

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Tommck:

paladine – and the new show starts before 8?

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paladine:

then there are commercials til the next show

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paladine:

no I set the shows to record 1 minute early to make sure, cos the scheduled times are not always entirely accurate

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paladine:

my pc clock is synced with my stb clock

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Tommck:

ok

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paladine:

actually I suppose just setting them to finish 1 minute early instead of start and finish 1 minute early would work

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Tommck:

paladine – yeah... probably

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Tommck:

paladine – but I think you should be able to do both (start/end 1 minute early) and it should still work

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gardengnome:

Tommck: chill. don't expect people to jump just because you asked a question.

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Tommck:

gardengnome – I know the drill.. been here before...

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gardengnome:

paladine: fyi, i found some nice software today: rsibreak and workrave. tells you to get off the computer once in a while to prevent RSI :)

[15:24:49]

paladine:

gardengnome, wouldn't make any difference, I would just ignore it

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paladine:

if I am awake, I am in front of my PC

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paladine:

so howdo I make changes to the default recording profile to always end 1 minute early and always set to never expire?

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GreyFoxx:

paladine: You don't edit that in the recording profile. You do it either on a per recording basis or by changing the global default under Setup->TvSettings->General

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paladine:

in recording priorities?

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GreyFoxx:

no

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paladine:

am in the recording priorities now there is an option to End Late

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paladine:

which will accept a negative time

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GreyFoxx:

Weird. Looks like a very similar setting in 2 locations

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paladine:

I don't see where to set the don't expire flag though

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GreyFoxx:

Setit when you schedule your recording

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paladine:

that means extra clicks for every recording though

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paladine:

would be easier to set it in the default profile

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GreyFoxx:

Sometimes life isn't easy :)

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jams:

again look at Setup->TvSettings->General

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GreyFoxx:

Man, I need to relook through all of the settings menus again.I was JUST on the page and never saw it

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paladine:

yeah I see it "Auto Expire Default"

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paladine:

thanks

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paladine:

so now I have setup the recording profile to always end 1 minute early, do I have to go back and edit my scheduled recording and remove the end 1 minute early flag from theindividual recordings?

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jams:

Hopefully the setting revamp will help

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paladine:

to stop it ending 2 minutes early

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jams:

that one screen has like 9 options

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paladine:

or will it still only end 1 minute early?

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GreyFoxx:

We should drop 50% of the options overall, makeit easier to remember ;)(

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jams:

paladine- I don't think so, but don't quote me on that

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paladine:

am loving mythtv :)

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GreyFoxx:

paladine: I seem to remember someone saying that those changes wont affect existing recording schedules. But that could very well have changed as that was over a year ago

[15:36:02]

paladine:

I don't have an IR blaster setup yet but fortunately I can set my stb to automatically change the channel to scheduled viewing

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paladine:

worked great on the recordings I made last night

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paladine:

ahin the general settings I set the end time in seconds

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paladine:

which is pretty cool

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paladine:

but that doesn't allow negative settings

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paladine:

well i will see how these go tonight and they if they are not quite right I will change them tomorrow for Mondays schedule

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paladine:

I setup a passthrough last night too in tvmenu.xml to allow me to watch tv in vlc without prebuffering :)

[15:41:58]

paladine:

which gives me a good temporary fix to the prebuffer problem

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GreyFoxx:

I can't remember the last time I launched LiveTV

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paladine:

I should setup mythweb, I presume that allows me to do scheduling over the web without having to break out of LiveTV mode to do it in the mythfrontend

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GreyFoxx:

correct

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paladine:

I am so in love with this app

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paladine:

or rather suite

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paladine:

its gonna be even better once I get IR Blaster setup :)

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markit:

any european here that can suggest hardware to me, italian?

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paladine:

I can only recommend the pvr150

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paladine:

cos thats what I use

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paladine:

but it depends whether you are wanting dbv or regular tv

[15:49:31]

paladine:

dvb even

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paladine:

here's an interesting question

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paladine:

if I am using a passthrough, will mythtv automatically kill the passthrough when it gets to a scheduled recording?

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markit:

paladine: are you answering me or others?

[15:52:48]

paladine:

anyone who might know the answer

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markit:

<paladine> I can only recommend the pvr150

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markit:

this is not a question... is it the answer for me?

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paladine:

oh yeah that was to you

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paladine:

are you wanting to watch freeview digital tv or regular terrestial tv?

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markit:

ok, thanks :) wondering if pvr350 was better because of vid acceleration

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markit:

I would love to see terrestrial + satelite

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markit:

and the ability of what whatever I want while recording whatever I want

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markit:

but don't think is simple

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paladine:

I don't know about the 350 because I don't have one, I only just got my 150 yesterday

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markit:

also satellite probably is a problem, since Sky uses a proprietary decoder, AFAIK

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jams:

the 350 is not worth the extra money

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paladine:

the 150 have hardware mpeg2 encoding

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paladine:

I am using my 150 with sky

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paladine:

sky if fed into the card via svideo

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markit:

150 has a card slot?

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paladine:

s/if/is

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markit:

ah, ok

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markit:

but you can't change channel from mythtv box for a programmed recording

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paladine:

I use the sky planner with autoview enabled to change the channel

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paladine:

and I will be using an IR blaster to allow mythtv to change the sky channel

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markit:

so I would need 2 pvr150? one for terrestrial and one for sky?

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paladine:

but I don't have it setup yet, so sky planner with autoview is a good workaround

[15:57:18]

paladine:

you an get 2x 150 or 1x 500 (which apparantly has 2x 150's on the same card)

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paladine:

but I am by no means an authority on this

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paladine:

I just started using mythtv yesterday

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rushfan:

Hey. I upgraded mythtv, and everything works fine, except for the Watch TV option.

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markit:

paladine: using Knoppix Mythtv or installed from scratch?

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rushfan:

I can schedule recordings, and they record fine.

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paladine:

markit, I built from thesvn checkout in ubuntu

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paladine:

rushfan, you getting prebuffer errors in livetv?

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rushfan:

Hmm. Should I try running from command line to see if it gives me any errors?

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rushfan:

Right now the screen flashes black, and it goes back to the main menu

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paladine:

does your livetv just freeze on you?

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paladine:

ah right I dunno what that is then

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rushfan:

Here we go.

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rushfan:

I have errors about LiveTV.

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rushfan:

let me put them in a pastebin

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rushfan:

http://monoport.com/1355

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paladine:

I can't help you I am afraid, I am very new to mythtv

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rushfan:

Oh.

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paladine:

only been running it for about 30 hours

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rushfan:

ahh

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antiProzac:

I am so very close. lirc 0.8 compiled and installed. The serial module loaded, I am using the tivo series 2 configure file in /etc. mode2 saw the key presses. lircd is running. I copied mythtv.0.19/configfiles/lircrc.example to ~/.lircrc. I restarted mythfrontend. at this point I was hoping my tivo remote would work.. but it doesnt

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Juski:

try seeing if irw reports the correct button presses

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antiProzac:

ok

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antiProzac:

wow! irw is a cool program

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antiProzac:

its right on the money with the key presses

[16:09:16]

rushfan:

Can anyone make anyting of my error?

[16:09:24]

paladine:

I managed to get irw to work and recorded my buttons and did the lircrc file, but I still can't get myth to respond

[16:09:27]

rushfan:

BTW I use gentoo and I recently did an emerge -DNu world if it makes a difference.

[16:09:28]

paladine:

so I gave up

[16:09:45]

antiProzac:

00000000a10c2807 00 UP Tivo_S2

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antiProzac:

00000000a10c2807 01 UP Tivo_S2

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gardengnome:

antiProzac: it's ~/.mythtv/lircrc not ~/.lircrc.

[16:10:11]

rushfan:

--> http://monoport.com/1355 (lirc_init seems to be failing)

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antiProzac:

do I need to plug these hex numbers in anywhere

[16:10:16]

Juski:

antiProzac: then the mistake you made was calling the file .lircrc, as gardengnome just said

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antiProzac:

gardengnome. I hope its that easy, I'll give it a try

[16:10:42]

Juski:

if irw reports the right stuff, it IS that easy

[16:11:00]

Juski:

unless mythtv has been compiled without lirc support, which I very much doubt

[16:11:27]

paladine:

I even edited ~/.mythtv/lircrc to make the commands match

[16:11:29]

antiProzac:

and the lircrc.example file is good enough? it doesnt need modification?

[16:11:34]

paladine:

still had no joy :p

[16:11:53]

Juski:

antiProzac: it might need modifying.. some folks' idea of logical is weird

[16:12:05]

gardengnome:

antiProzac: it'll likely need to be modified. you also should be looking at the *nativelirc* example file

[16:12:08]

antiProzac:

in the mythtv docs it says:

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antiProzac:

The next step is to convert those signals into something that can be used to control MythTV. MythTV now includes native support for lirc and can interact directly with

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antiProzac:

$ cd ~/mythtv-0.20/configfiles

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antiProzac:

$ cp lircrc.example ~/.lircrc

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gardengnome:

antiProzac: i suppose that one is meant for use wir irxevent. works differently.

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paladine:

you sur eit is supposed to be in ~/.mythtv/lircrc?

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Juski:

paladine: yes

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paladine:

cos the howto says ~/.lircrc

[16:13:34]

Juski:

then the howto is wrong

[16:13:46]

paladine:

that might explain why mine is not working then :)

[16:13:52]

Juski:

which howto?

[16:14:07]

paladine:

in the mythtv documentation

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paladine:

ls -al

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paladine:

doh

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antiProzac:

I put it in .mythtv/lircrc

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antiProzac:

and restarted the frontend. nothing

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Juski:

the howto might say ~/.lircrc then later say to symlink it to ~/.mythtv/lircrc

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paladine:

antiprozac did you start that other application ?

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Juski:

antiProzac: yeah but do the button names agree in licrc and lircd.conf hmm ?

[16:16:36]

paladine:

did you run irxevent & ?

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Juski:

mythtv doesn't need irxevent

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paladine:

it does if you haven't rebuilt mythtv with natural lirc support

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paladine:

according to the documentation

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antiProzac:

does mythtv 0.19 have natural lirc support

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Juski:

yes

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paladine:

says you need to enable it when you do configure

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Juski:

heh. I know how gardengnome feels

[16:18:42]

Juski:

paladine: it's enabled by default IIRC

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paladine:

Once you know that your remote is working, you can either recompile MythTV with native lirc support by enabling it in configure or you need to run the irxevent program, which takes the key presses and sends them to MythTV. If you use native lirc support, you don't need to run irxevent. If you are going to use irxevent, then you need to run it like this:

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paladine:

$ irxevent &

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paladine:

If irxevent isn't running, then MythTV will not respond to your remote control unless you're using native lirc support.

[16:19:16]

Juski:

well duh

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Juski:

I've certainly never had to run ./configure --enable-lirc that's for sure

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paladine:

which seems to suggest if you haven't rebuilt mythtv with lirc support it won't work

[16:20:18]

paladine:

maybe the docs are out of date

[16:20:33]

Juski:

and I have lirc support in my mythtv. I know this cos it's always complaining about it when I run mythfrontend on my test box

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paladine:

sec gonna restart mythfrontend see if it works now I have moved lircrc

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Juski:

see www.juski.co.uk/lircd.conf and www.juski.co.uk/lircrc to glean how the names should match up

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paladine:

you using sky or dvb juski?

[16:22:52]

Juski:

dvb. wouldn't be seen dead with $ky. Robbing Murdoch bastard

[16:23:21]

Juski:

I have ntl digital cable & grab that with a pvr150 though

[16:23:47]

Juski:

convert svideo & audio & remote to cat5 & send it upstairs to my myth box

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paladine:

your lircd.conf looks completely different to mine, but I followed the docs to the letter

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Juski:

paladine: of course it looks different. I have a different remote!

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markit:

any european shop that sells pre-build mythtv box?

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paladine:

Imean the format of the file is completely different

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paladine:

not just the data

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Juski:

paladine: the reason I posted them is so you can get the idea of marrying the button names up between the 2 files

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Juski:

I recorded the lircd.conf file myself btw

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Juski:

with irrecord

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paladine:

same here

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Juski:

if irw reports all the right button names then I advise you check the lircrc and .lircrc files & verify all the button names agree. e.g. "select" in lircd.conf is linked to what should do 'select' in lircrc – and the right case

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antiProzac:

i dont get it, irw, mode2, irxevent all work fine. Mythtv simply ignores it all. Are there logs somewhere?

[16:27:37]

Juski:

antiProzac: check your button names!

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antiProzac:

I did

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antiProzac:

I made one TV_POWER

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Juski:

post the lircrc file and the lircd.conf file

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paladine:

hmmm lircd is not even starting for me now

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antiProzac:

relavant section in lircrc:

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Juski:

you might have a window focus problem... often the cause of such things if you don't use a window manager (or the wrong one)

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antiProzac:

begin

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antiProzac:

prog = irxevent

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antiProzac:

button = TV_POWER

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antiProzac:

config = Key Escape CurrentWindow

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antiProzac:

end

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Juski:

antiProzac: look in my lircrc file

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Juski:

prog = mythtv

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antiProzac:

begin codes

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antiProzac:

TIVO 0x00000000A10CE00F

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antiProzac:

TV_POWER 0x00000000A10C0807

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Juski:

config = [whatever mythtv key]

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Juski:

right antiProzac in your lircrc file in ~/.mythtv , replace every occurence of prog = irxevent with prog = mythtv for starters

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antiProzac:

ok

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Juski:

then you'll need to change the 'config =' lines to reflect the relevant mythtv keypresses. you can find out what they are in the mythtv.org website docs or a file called keys.txt

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Juski:

my next wiki editing spree will have to be something about this

[16:33:04]

Juski:

and maybe someone should send a patch for that readme file if it's really that out of date

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paladine:

yeah it doesn't say anything about this stuff

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paladine:

all my progs were set to irxevent too

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paladine:

begin

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paladine:

prog = mythtv

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paladine:

button = 7

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paladine:

config = Key 7 CurrentWindow

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paladine:

end

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paladine:

now I need to change all the config lines too?

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antiProzac:

juski, what version on mythtv?

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antiProzac:

are you using

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HeMan:

Hi! Is there any way that i could tell MythGallery to not look at CD/DVD's when i start the frontend?

[16:35:20]

Juski:

antiProzac: 0.20 on my test box, on everything else, 0.19-fixes

[16:35:48]

antiProzac:

when I start the frontend, how come it gave me console info about my joystick config file being there but nothing about lircrc

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Juski:

I was gonna be upgrading this weekend but got sidetracked demolishing my old shed

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Juski:

antiProzac: because that isn't trapped? ;0

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paladine:

I guess I should set about ripping my lircrc file apart :)

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pushpop:

Question, I change the location of my mp3's and mythweb is showing them under the old location and when I click on the mp3 I get page can not be displayed how do I correct this? so that myth tv shows the mp3's in the new location

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Juski:

I still need to get around to making a record button in my lircrc

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antiProzac:

so do I need irxevent running?

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Juski:

antiProzac: not with prog = mythtv in your lircrc file no

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antiProzac:

I'm pretty sure my mythtv has no native lirc inside it

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antiProzac:

its 0.19

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Juski:

just had a look at the docs.. it's not crystal clear, especially mentioning irxevent in the example file

[16:38:18]

Juski:

antiProzac: stop lircd, then run mythfrontend.. it should report an error about not being able to connect to a socket (see preceding lines)... that's the bit where it tried to hook into lircd

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Juski:

pushpop: maybe you need to update the symlink in the mythweb directory to point at the new location

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antiProzac:

I stopped lircd and restarted mythfrontend. there where no issues starting it

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paladine:

juski, wheres this keys.txt file?

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antiProzac:

same exact passage. it still mentions joystick is disabled, blah, blah

[16:39:55]

Juski:

antiProzac: course it started okay.. it will do that. but in the console text....

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paladine:

I can't see it mentioned in the docs

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antiProzac:

Juski: thats what I'm talking about

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pushpop:

Juski: how would I do that, could you give me an example

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antiProzac:

Juski: there is nothing on the console, just the same 15 or so lines

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pushpop:

my new location is /myth/music

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Juski:

pushpop: I'm not in the business of teaching folks how to use linux. I help solve mythtv issues in here. look up how to make symbolic links

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pushpop:

ok, sorry

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Juski:

I'll give you a hint though.. if you do ls -al in the root of the mythweb data dir, you'll see somedirname > someotherdirname in there. like this: music -> /media/music/

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pushpop:

ahh thats helpfull thanks

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Juski:

delete that with rm somedirname

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paladine:

pushpop ln -s actuallocation linkedlocation

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paladine:

iirc

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Juski:

man ln

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paladine:

but I am heavily medicated so try it on a dummy file first :)

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Juski:

pushpop: cd /your/mythweb/directory

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Juski:

pushpop: then cd data

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Juski:

pushpop: then rm music (maybe have to sudo that)

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HeMan:

do i have to remove mythgallery to stop it from trying to show pictures from cd/dvd on startup?

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Juski:

pushpop: then ln -s music /myth/music

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pushpop:

sweet guys it worked, thanks a bunch

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HeMan:

i relly like mythgallery so i rather not

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Juski:

and REMEMBER it!

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pushpop:

ya I will

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pushpop:

haha

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pushpop:

thx

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Juski:

HeMan: check the settings for that in mythfrontend. yeesh

[16:45:14]

Juski:

maybe the one that mentions removable media...

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** paladine hands juski one of his diazepams :) **

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HeMan:

Juski: i've tuned that one off with no luck

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Juski:

paladine: I am chilled. you should see me when I'm not

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Juski:

HeMan: sometimes you need to restart mythfrontend for settings to take effect

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paladine:

Juski, I know thisis a pain but I don't see this keys.txt mentioned in the docs, you got the url for it?

[16:46:17]

Juski:

might be in /contrib

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HeMan:

Juski: ah! worked

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Juski:

bleh. not there on my system

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pushpop:

Juski: one other issue that maybe you know a quick fix too, all my movies I uploaded to my mythbox did not dl the .jpg from imdb any ideas on that?

[16:47:17]

Juski:

pushpop: you have to scan for them yourself

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Juski:

look up the info on imdb in video manager on every file in turn.

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paladine:

juski – http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-11.html#ss11.1 <- that what you are talking about?

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HeMan:

btw, shouldn't it try to play the DVD if it's an movie-dvd?

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pushpop:

Juski: ya I can pull the movie info but the .jpg never dl's with the movie info

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Juski:

HeMan: depends what player you're using. default is mplayer which sucks at playing dvds

[16:48:06]

HeMan:

ie not let mythgallery try to find pictures on it

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Juski:

HeMan: eew. that's another setting

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Juski:

autoinsert stuff sucks

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HeMan:

ok

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Juski:

"annoy you when you insert a media disc (y/n) ?"

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HeMan:

*s*

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Juski:

paladine: that'll do, that linky

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HeMan:

i allready configured a jumppoint to the dvd-player so actually i don't really need an autoplayer

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paladine:

thanks man gonna edit lircrc now

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HeMan:

but when fiddling with the settings i thougt that would be a good thing

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Juski:

HeMan: mplayer sucks for dvd playback... try xine, ogle or VLC

[16:51:27]

Juski:

or Internal ;)

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HeMan:

Juski: i think i have Internal for that

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HeMan:

in 0.20 i noticed it got much better!

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Juski:

got better ++

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HeMan:

but it crashes on my "Crouching tiger, hidden dragon"

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riddlebox:

doesanyon use gizmod?

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HeMan:

after a few minutes the entire mythfrontend restarts

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CCFL_Man_:

i thought mplayer was fine fior dvd playback

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Juski:

it is, unless you like your dvds with menus

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Juski:

menu support still isn't officially supported

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paladine:

this is annoying

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paladine:

I start lircd np

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paladine:

as soon as Ihit irw lircd terminates

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CCFL_Man_:

ahh

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CCFL_Man_:

who needs menus anyway? :)

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HeMan:

one thing that I missed from 0.19 is that it started to show the movie directly, skipping all the uninterresting stuff like copyright notes and menu

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Juski:

paladine: soundy likey config problem

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Juski:

paladine: could be lircd looking for /dev/lirc0 when your actual lirc device is /dev/lirc/0 or something

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paladine:

its just usb

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paladine:

using mce microsoft remote

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paladine:

it worked the other day

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paladine:

dunno why it is not working now

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paladine:

I will have to go through the lircd install docs again

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antiProzac:

I'm quite sure my mythfrontend is ignoring ~/.lircrc and ~/.mythtv/lircrc what would cause this? how can I force mythtv to see lirc?

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HeMan:

how can I debug the Internal player on the crash? should i try running it in gdb?

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paladine:

I don't actually want to use my remote with mythtv, I just want mythtv to use the blaster to change the sky channels

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paladine:

then I can setup grabber

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paladine:

and use myth scheduling

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paladine:

at themoment I have to schedule in sky and then set manual recording in myth

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antiProzac:

I'm just going to install mythtv 0.20 and maybe all my problems will magically go away with lirc

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Juski:

antiProzac: they probably won't

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Juski:

I've thrown enough bones out there

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Cardoe:

HOLY CRAP

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Cardoe:

I finally made MythTV compile!!!!

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HeMan:

Cardoe: umm, configure;make?

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Cardoe:

HeMan: Not when you turn on warnings

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Cardoe:

and use new gcc and new binutils

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Cardoe:

it refuses to compile

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HeMan:

HeMan: ah!

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Cardoe:

because people don't actually write the makefiles for what they need

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HeMan:

Cardoe: ah!

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Cardoe:

they just hack it so it works for them

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eduedix:

does mythtv work ok with qt4 ?

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HeMan:

(not talking to myself...)

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Cardoe:

and so the dependencies are all wrong

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Cardoe:

eduedix: it doesn't at all

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eduedix:

Cardoe, gah.. do i need to emerge qt3 just for mythtv ? :'/

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HeMan:

Cardoe: what version of gcc and binutils are you trying with?

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Cardoe:

eduedix: yes

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Cardoe:

gcc-4.2 and binutils 2.16.4

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Cardoe:

But with a butt ton of warnings

[17:03:23]

Cardoe:

well not a butt ton

[17:03:26]

Cardoe:

but a few warnings

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HeMan:

what options (besides -Wall)?

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Cardoe:

Wall doesn't cover anything

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Cardoe:

I have a bunch

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HeMan:

i was asked to create an embedded installation of myth and i guessed they will be using uclibc, has anyone tried to use that instead of glibc?

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Juski:

oh how I'd miss seeing "class QSqlDriverCreatorBase has virtual functions but non-virtual destructor"

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Juski:

just wouldn't be the same

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Cardoe:

HeMan: haven't tried.

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janneg:

HeMan: do qt or qt/embedded work with uclibc? otherwise I see not the point to even try

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HeMan:

i guess qt/embedded does but i haven't tried either

[17:09:26]

HeMan:

some googling suggested that "regular" qt will work

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paladine:

Juski, what IR hardware you using and where did you get it?

[17:13:57]

paladine:

I just wanna buy whatever ir blaster is easiest to setup and get working

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paladine:

does mythtv have a forum?

[17:17:02]

Cardoe:

mailing list and wiki

[17:18:10]

HeMan:

but no actual forum, which in my opinion is a win

[17:18:44]

HeMan:

i think mailing lists and wikis beats forums any time

[17:18:54]

paladine:

I am a big fan of forums

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paladine:

much easier to navigate ans earch than a mailing list

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Cardoe:

search

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bagpuss_thecat:

mailing list archives are dead easy to search

[17:22:29]

bagpuss_thecat:

http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/

[17:24:40]

HeMan:

and some maillist archives could be imported to your mailreader and searched and threaded there with great flexibility

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janneg:

Juski: does your cx88-blackbird work now?

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Puh:

someone sent an email to the dev list about the channel scanning / eit problems i've been staring at all day

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Puh:

i'm running out of eit data in two days .. :)

[17:33:36]

acm:

just installed mythtv. i have tv sound coming from 'aux'. when i mute aux and set it as the capture device, i still cant get any sound from mythtv. any ideas?

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paladine:

whats the recommended IR Blaster for use with MythTV?

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Cardoe:

1 more fix for MythTV and 1 more for MythWeb and MythTV-0.20 comes out of package.mask on Gentoo

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acm-:

n/m, figured it out

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mocker:

Hmm, I'm actually trying to compile on Gentoo now. ;)

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rushfan:

http://monoport.com/1355 can anyone make anything of that?

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Aid`:

whereis the Edit Keys section in mythfrontend?

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Tommck:

no idea

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Tommck:

I only use mythtweb for that

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hjohnson:

so should I buy a PVR-500? :)

[18:00:32]

Tommck:

hjohnson – what do you want to do?

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hjohnson:

PVR type stuff.. though right now I only have basic cable..

[18:01:40]

hjohnson:

i'll probably just pass on it for now.

[18:01:45]

Tommck:

it would work quite well for you then

[18:01:46]

Tommck:

I have one.

[18:01:53]

Tommck:

I use it to record 2 DirecTV receivers

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Tommck:

(over s-video)

[18:02:25]

Tommck:

if you're using analog cable, you could just connect 2 cables and it would work decently

[18:02:27]

hjohnson:

my big question right now is if I want to build the systme to be capable of doing HDTV resolution.

[18:02:37]

hjohnson:

yeah, analog cable here.

[18:02:42]

Tommck:

I'd say... if you're not doing HDTV now... I'd wait until you do..

[18:02:53]

Tommck:

you can always add the other card later

[18:03:02]

Tommck:

they'll work fine..

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hjohnson:

Tommck: the HDTV question primarily relates to what to build for the front-end.

[18:03:16]

Tommck:

I have a PVR500 and 2 pchdtv HD3000 cards in my backend

[18:03:19]

Tommck:

hjohnson – ahh.

[18:03:30]

Tommck:

CPU, etc?

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hjohnson:

if I decide I don't give a rat's ass about HDTV, i'll build the front-end around a via EPIA, and a reasonable LCD.

[18:03:41]

Tommck:

right

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hjohnson:

Tommck: my back end will soon be a dual core athlon 64 w/1TB storage.

[18:03:51]

hjohnson:

right now my TV has knobs on it. :P

[18:04:00]

Tommck:

the CPU will probably be overkill

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hjohnson:

Tommck: yeah, but it was $25 more than a single core. :P

[18:04:22]

Tommck:

I have a P4 2.4 w/ over 1 TB... it's not busy

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hjohnson:

plus the machine does other things than just straight video

[18:04:32]

Tommck:

right.

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hjohnson:

Tommck: you running osftware RAID 5?

[18:04:42]

Tommck:

hjohnson – no... LVM

[18:04:58]

hjohnson:

yeah, I'm running ext3 over LVM over software RAID 5.

[18:05:00]

Tommck:

didn't care enough for the raid-5 support

[18:05:14]

Tommck:

I'm just LVM over physical volumes

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hjohnson:

Tommck: yeah, it's primarily because of the archival nature of a whack of the data I store to go with the RAID 5.

[18:05:29]

Tommck:

yeah...

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Tommck:

I know that, if I lose a drive, I'm screwed..

[18:05:40]

Tommck:

but... it's just TV :)

[18:05:45]

hjohnson:

Tommck: heh

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hjohnson:

even then it'd hurt.

[18:05:53]

Tommck:

yeah... it would

[18:05:57]

hjohnson:

especially if you've built up an archive of things that are off the air.

[18:06:04]

Tommck:

I'm reinstalling my backend as we speak

[18:06:08]

hjohnson:

haha, someone locally just sold the "SS Minnow"

[18:06:13]

Tommck:

I pretty much just watch and delete

[18:06:17]

Tommck:

haha.. funny

[18:06:18]

hjohnson:

I wonder if the person who bought it is going to use it for three hour tours.

[18:06:26]

Tommck:

brb... dryer buzzed...

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ShockValue:

setserial -g /dev/ttyS[01]

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ShockValue:

oops

[18:11:41]

ShockValue:

on that note, i got my homemade serial IR receiver to work :)

[18:12:19]

paladine:

I updated the ticket regarding the prebuffer problem in livetv

[18:12:22]

paladine:

http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/1153#comment:30

[18:13:55]

ShockValue:

on that same vein.. anyone know if the remote that comes with the motorola 6200 is compatible with lirc / serial ir receiver?

[18:15:26]

paladine:

will mythtv automatically stop LiveTV when a programme is scheduled to be recorded?

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ShockValue:

it pops up a box, asking what you want to do.. if you dont answer, it changes the channel to record

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paladine:

k thats good then :)

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paladine:

I tend to forget when I am watching livetv :)

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Tommck:

ShockValue – speaking of serial receiver cables... can you use a USB->Serial cable to use one of those?

[18:17:48]

Tommck:

my PC only has one serial connector and I need to control 2 directv boxes

[18:18:06]

Tommck:

oh... I misread

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Juski:

janneg: no it doesn't work. I've had to get back onto my other projects for the time being. might have to resort to getting it working in windows & register snooping unless I can find a cdrom audio cable in here

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Tommck:

you're talking about lirc stuff

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ShockValue:

Tommck: thats a good question i havent tried

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Tommck:

paladine – how could you forget? with all those commercials?

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Juski:

Tommck: we don't have _that_ many commercials in the UK ;)

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janneg:

Juski: ok. I'm interested in a test of the mpeg encoding api with a non ivtv card

[18:19:21]

ShockValue:

i just got the thing soldered together last night :)

[18:19:46]

Tommck:

Juski – it's painful here.

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Juski:

janneg: video works fine but there's no audio yet. it's a bitch to get working in windows too

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Tommck:

was watching a show the other day... it have over SIX MINUTES of commercials in the middle of a show

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paladine:

Tommck, I do a lot of things at the same time, so even though I am watching LiveTV it certainly doesn't dominate my attention

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Tommck:

paladine – ah

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bblgonna go lie down for a bit

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Vantage13:

has anyone had any luck getting a pvr-150 with blaster/remote combo going? I can't get the remote to produce any output from irw. I followed this guide http://www.blushingpenguin.com/mark/blog/?p=24 and everything is fine up until step 8 where I get no response from irw.

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Tommck:

I have a major RTFM scenario... I run "/etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start" and I have no backend process... what's the deal?

[18:52:58]

Tommck:

ping?

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Ribs:

PONG!

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Ribs:

check your logs

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Ribs:

see where it fucks up

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Tommck:

:)

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Aid`:

i watch FTA satellite and it says MY 42 on the bottom right hand corner... how do i go about finding a tv listing for that?

[18:55:05]

Tommck:

just making sure that my internet connection wasn't flaking

[18:55:11]

Tommck:

Ribs – it's failing on DB connect

[18:55:11]

Ribs:

nah

[18:55:16]

Ribs:

I was just feeling lazy

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Ribs:

Tommck, right, what does it say?

[18:55:31]

Tommck:

think I need to grant privs to the mythtv user

[18:55:45]

Ribs:

hey, you don't need me at all

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Ribs:

go for it cowboy!

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Tommck:

Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES)

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GreyFoxx:

Aid`: Goggle is your friend

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Tommck:

except I have no idea how to set that password :)

[18:56:05]

GreyFoxx:

"MY42 Television"

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GreyFoxx:

First entry is the channel

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antiProzac:

what is the MythControls plugin?

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Tommck:

or grant the privs... it's been quite a while :)

[18:57:13]

Ribs:

Tommck, mythtv-setup

[18:57:14]

Ribs:

innit

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antiProzac:

mysqladmin -u mythtv -p your_password

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Ribs:

antiProzac, I don't think you actually put the password into that line

[18:57:42]

antiProzac:

I love goggle

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Tommck:

Ribs – I ran that already

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Ribs:

oh mysqladmin

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antiProzac:

Ribs: sure you can

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Ribs:

thought that was mysql

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** Ribs shuts up **

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Ribs:

Tommck, try logging in manually with the info it has then

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antiProzac:

Ribs: you should never put a password on a command line because every others can see it with a crafted ps command

[18:58:25]

antiProzac:

but who cares about securty

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Ribs:

o/

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Tommck:

Ribs – that's what I'm trying to do now

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Tommck:

Ribs – access denied

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Ribs:

does the user exist? :)

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Tommck:

Ribs – how do I tell?

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Ribs:

i cheated and used phpmyadmin

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Ribs:

otherwise you'd have to login as root and fuck about

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Tommck:

using phpmyadmin now :)

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Tommck:

got it... mythtv has no privs

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Tommck:

it seems that it's trying to NFS mount my recordings directory when it's a local drive..

[19:04:36]

Tommck:

any ideas?

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Tommck:

nevermind... that was 2 hours old (still weird tho)

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Tommck:

I've set the password... I've granted priveleges... it doesn't like me

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Tommck:

I don't understand... I can't even login to mysql

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antiProzac:

when upgrading from 0.19 to 0.20 does anything need to happen to the mysql database?

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Aid`:

lol

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lnx^:

will hamsta's ubuntu repository soon be upgraded to .20? I hope :P

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GreyFoxx:

antiProzac: Myth itself will handle the database schema changes

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Tommck:

is .20 released?

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** Tommck is a bit out of touch **

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GreyFoxx:

Tommck: yeah

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Cardoe:

antiProzac: yes. it will do it itself

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lnx^:

who was it that managed that hamsta repository anyway?

[19:15:58]

Tommck:

GreyFoxx – ahh.. didn't know

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Tommck:

can someone remind me where the channel changing script location is set up?

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tam:

hi all, does the media centre remote work under mythtv?

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sloncho:

hi. trying to compile from source 0.20-fixes. the mythtv build went OK, but mythplugin (after configure) displays: main.cpp:23:45: error: mythtv/libmythui/myththemedmenu.h: No such file or directory. any ideas how to fix this

[19:26:24]

Aid`:

either youy dont have the file or your paths are wrong somehow

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Tommck:

when I run "/etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start", I get no output to the screen... and no output to the log file...

[19:27:37]

Tommck:

and it doesn't work.

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Tommck:

running "mythbackend" works...

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bluey-:

is there a list with bindable keys for mplayer?

[19:27:58]

Tommck:

can someone help me figure out what's wrong with the script?

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sloncho:

Aid`: there is no such a subdir mythtv in the svn repo under the mytharchive

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Tommck:

oh crap... I just accidentally put "tom mythtv" instead of "tom,mythtv" on the "admin" line of /etc/group....

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Tommck:

anyone have a way I can get sudo back? :)

[19:38:03]

Tommck:

please don't tell me reinstall

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sloncho:

someone succeded to build 0.20-fixes from the svn? I have this problem: http://pastebin.ca/173292

[19:40:02]

sloncho:

some files are missing and it fails to build mythoplugins

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sloncho:

mythplugins

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Cardoe:

haven't tried the latest

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a1fa|64:

did you make install mythtv first?

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a1fa|64:

sloncho: you make sure you make install mythtv first

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a1fa|64:

SlicerDicer: thats why you are mixing files

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a1fa|64:

sloncho

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sloncho:

a1fa|64: i did not make install yet. 10x for the tip

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Anduin:

sloncho: You have to make and install the main mythtv before building the plugins.

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Anduin:

exactl as a1fa|64 said it appears

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sloncho:

yep, sorry. my mistake. did not read README :)

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qip|Virusmaster:

good evening

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CCFL_Man_:

anyone cross compiled alsa before?

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Maguz:

for me it complains about missing qmake...

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** Tommck can almost taste his backend reinstall working... so close **

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DennisBergkamp:

is it possible to get shows off the directtv r15?

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Maguz:

do I need to register to get qmake from trolltech

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Juski:

Maguz: should be a package available for your distro

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Juski:

libqt3-dev or similar

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Maguz:

ok

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Juski:

if you're missing libqt3-dev chances are you're missing other things you might need too. there should be a list somewhere in a mythtv howto for your distro

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Maguz:

now it started compiling at least..

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Maguz:

I have ubuntu 6.06

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ender224455:

does anyone know why my TV color is really saturated/red with an nvidia 5200 video card and a hauppage 150 tuner?

[20:03:17]

HeMan:

i have the same after upgrading to 0.20 and was just about to troubleshoot it

[20:03:46]

HeMan:

(just a "me too"-message)

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ender224455:

I'm only on .19 (upgraded my knoppmyth)

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Juski:

prolly the hue setting

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ender224455:

is that just changed in nvidia-settings?

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Juski:

nope

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Juski:

ivtvctl or in mythtv

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HeMan:

Just tried to change hue on a channel and that seem to solve the problem

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ender224455:

HeMan: How exactly did you go about doing that? Sorry, I'm pretty new to this

[20:05:45]

hjohnson:

alas, my LCS didn't have a PVR-500 in stock

[20:05:52]

HeMan:

I ran mythtv-setup and enftered the channel editor and changed hue from 32768 to 0

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ender224455:

alright, thanks

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paladine:

can I use my ipaq as an IR blaster?

[20:06:35]

hjohnson:

you know, I wonder how much CPU power it would take to transcode/downsample HD content to SD or DVD on the fly.

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GreyFoxx:

You can also try just changing the output HUE using the XV Picture controls (contrast, brightness, hue, etc)

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HeMan:

GreyFoxx: in my case all recordings was wrong as well

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ender224455:

how would I go about fixing blurriness in the picture.. it seems to be more blurry than it is usually

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Juski:

increase the recording resolution

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ender224455:

to what? (I'm on TV)

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ender224455:

it is at 480 x 480 now I believe

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tank-man:

thers a list of resolutions and what standards they are at the myth web site

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HeMan:

ender224455: i use 720x576 if i remember correctl

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frankrizzo:

where exactly do you set that?

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Tommck:

where do I change the channel changing script location? (I can' t seem to find it in the setup)

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Juski:

recording profiles

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frankrizzo:

i used the fedora mythtv guide, and I thought I set it up, but looking back it might have only been for the testing

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Tommck:

thanks :)

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Juski:

Tommck: video sources I believe.. or maybe input connections

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Tommck:

I'll check it out... scanning channels now

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hjohnson:

*sigh* I didn't get my PVR-500

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frankrizzo:

I am getting choppy video even with dvds....which is weird. I am running a sempron 3000 w/ a gig of ram

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frankrizzo:

im thinking the video should not be choppy

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hjohnson:

frankrizzo: it might be if the decoder isn't optimized for your architecture.

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frankrizzo:

i installed fedora 5 and myth tv per the guide on wilsonnet

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frankrizzo:

the motherboard uses nvidia gefore 6150 for tv out

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paladine:

hey so if I build mythgallery, can i rsync it with a remote server and view the gallery over the web on a publically accessible webserver?

[20:21:42]

paladine:

cos gallery2 sucks

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jonk:

gallery2 sucks?

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paladine:

well I don't particularly like it

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paladine:

just my opinion of course

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jonk:

I had gallery1 running on old computer, was going to install gallery2 on new one

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jonk:

and move albums over

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Anduin:

frankrizzo: Did you install when the rpms at atrpms were somewhat broken?

[20:23:01]

jonk:

and how do i get the optical sound output working?

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paladine:

am planning on installing mythgallery on my home network, woudl be nice if I could sync it with a remote server too

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paladine:

would save me a lot of time

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HeMan:

jonk: i use gallery2 and am really found of it

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HeMan:

if it only could have tag's i'd be really happy

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frankrizzo:

i set this up on tuesday or wednesday

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paladine:

Ican use myth for my music collection too from what I understand?

[20:24:41]

frankrizzo:

of this past week

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paladine:

does mythtv make my coffee too?

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paladine:

seems to do everything else

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HeMan:

paladine: yes, coffe it could do but it won't take out the garbage... :-)

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metalac:

this is really werid

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frankrizzo:

ive been reading about configs all afternoon, and started fiddling around with refresh rate under the xorg.conf file. It seemed to help a little, but hard to tell

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metalac:

without XvMC i use about 17% cpu, but with XvMC it uses 90+%

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metalac:

anyone knows what's going on?

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paladine:

mythtv is linuxonly right?

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metalac:

paladine: OSX also

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paladine:

shame

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metalac:

windows is supposed to be in works

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paladine:

would be cool to install mythfrontendon my ipaq

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a1fa|64:

dejane, u cemu je problem?

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metalac:

you can put linux on your ipaq ;)

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paladine:

yeah but it voids the warranty

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Anduin:

frankrizzo: You may want to yum update

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HeMan:

and it won't run myth anyway...

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metalac:

you're not doing any hardware mods or anything, so it's easy to revert back

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paladine:

windows mobile ison the rom afaik

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frankrizzo:

okay, will I need to update myth after that?

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metalac:

yeah i doubt you'd be able to run myth on a a 400mhz cpu with 64mb ;)

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paladine:

my ipaq has 2GB

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metalac:

that is not RAM

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metalac:

it's like saying my swap partition is 100gv

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metalac:

gb

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paladine:

well actually it is ram, but it is flash ram

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paladine:

:p

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paladine:

it isalso designed specifically for media

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metalac:

just as I said HD is memory space as well :)

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paladine:

plays video and audio with no issues at all

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paladine:

I have a media companion ipaq

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metalac:

well it might be possible if you do 320x240 or something

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paladine:

plays mpeg4 with no issues

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paladine:

and mp3

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metalac:

a1fa|64: jel to meni nesto?

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Anduin:

frankrizzo: Hopefully it will update myth when you do that.

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frankrizzo:

okay, yum -y upgrade

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frankrizzo:

and then # yum -y install nvidia-graphics8774-kmdl-$KVER

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frankrizzo:

# yum -y install nvidia-graphics8774

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HeMan:

hmm, hue seem to be "reversed" in the database

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Maguz:

so is mythtv using xmltv

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HeMan:

49152 gives 25% and 32768 gives 50%

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Maguz:

maybe I should read faq

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metalac:

Maguz: it can uze xmltv

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acm-:

im having audio static in my tv captures when none exists when listening to the tv output directly. what might be causing this?

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jonk:

I'm looking for a guide to start using qam with a pchdtv 3000 — any suggestions?

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metalac:

jonk: have you checked out the wiki?

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jonk:

which wiki is that?

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metalac:

http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

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metalac:

the one linked off the main page

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jonk:

cool — there is some stuff there — I'll check it out

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jonk:

I'd like to see what digital cable channels are not encrypted from my cable provider

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jonk:

And I switched to the open GL painter for one of the frontends. The fading transistions are quite nice

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HeMan:

could one theme be slower than another?

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HeMan:

btw, shouldn't the home-page of mythtv be the wiki?

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Juski:

er... why?

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Juski:

it's clearly linked

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Juski:

time to watch some mythtv anyway (nyerr nyerr)

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HeMan:

i think the wiki looks better

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emp:

anyone familiar with the Zalman HD160 or IR Trans?

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sloncho:

i'm using the Internal video player to play my videos. how do I set which font to use for subs?

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Anduin:

sloncho: What sort of videos? (DVDs?)

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ShockValue:

anyone need some 80GB drives? i got a few for cheap (also a hd3000 and pvr 250)

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scott_:

how much for the hd3000?

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ShockValue:

good question, lemme check

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jonk:

freecyle

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ShockValue:

170$ new.. this one is barely used (i dont get good reception.) 100$ ?

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ShockValue:

im looking for an ipod nano, and a firewire card.. so if ya'll have one of those, we can work out a trade or something.

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scott_:

I love my hd3000, I get great reception and my antenna is inside and not even mounted properly

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scott_:

70–80% signal

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ShockValue:

i have a stupid island in my way that blocks all the signal from seattle :(

[21:43:17]

ShockValue:

plugged it in.. got crap reception.. took it out and ordered comcast HD

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ShockValue:

hrm, the new hd5500 is only 129$.. i guess i better let it go for cheaper than 100$

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scott_:

are you on Lost?

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ShockValue:

eh?

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antiProzac:

I need a definative answer. Docs say I require a file in ~/.lircrc another #mythtv-users regular says I require a ~/.mythtv/lircrc to make my remote control work. Which is it?

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Anduin:

antiProzac: for internal native ~/.mythtv/lircrc

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nomin:

where do I type in my zap2it info in mythtv?

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Anduin:

nomin: In mythtv-setup

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ShockValue:

mine is in /users/mythtv/.mythtv/lircrc

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pushpop:

Anyone here know why the covers are not dling from imdb example: http://72.80.24.44%2020:85/mythweb/video

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ShockValue:

pushpop: um, carefull with that.. someone could go delete all your recordings :)

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nomin:

Anduin: will I need to type in my email and password? I looked in there but haven't seen where to do it yet.

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Anduin:

nomin: Yes, the web service requires your login and password

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nomin:

ok. I'll look for it again.

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pushpop:

SHockVaule true =/ haha

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ShockValue:

ive nver used the covers thing tho, so i dont have much help

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pushpop:

ok

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Anduin:

pushpop: check your data/video_covers symlink

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Anduin:

pushpop: You'd also need to be able to follow sym links

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Pete__:

Hmm, I scheduled 2 recordings, got back and only one had happened it seems. (This setup has 3 tuners, nothing else set to record and no frontends connected) Lookin in "Previously recorded" and selecting the one that has recorded I see "Single Recorded — Recorded" while the one that didn't I see "Single Record — Not Listed". Any ideas why it didn't record? (There was a 30+ min gap between the first ending and the second starting.

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ShockValue:

is it possible to run mythtv-setup on a headless box? (no X installed) .. i have access to it, so maybe i can do it remotely?

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ginger2:

ShockValue, thats how I run my mythtv.

[22:12:18]

ShockValue:

what do i have to do to make mythtv-setup run on my local box here?

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Anduin:

ShockValue: x forwarding

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ginger2:

this is how my setup is, I use vnc

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ShockValue:

i turned on XForwarding yes in my config file, but it stioll says "cant open X display"

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ginger2:

i run vncserver as the mythtv user then I run vncviewer on a different box.

[22:14:49]

ShockValue:

http://pastebin.ca/173411

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ShockValue:

this is what happens on my box

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roger55:

ShockValue, why as root?

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ShockValue:

i was using root to make sure it wasnt a permissions issue

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metalac:

is there a way to increase font size in program guide?

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roger55:

ShockValue, that's a problem, since I guess root can't access your xserver either locally

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ShockValue:

i did a "xhost +localhost" before i started that

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ShockValue:

and a xhost +10.1.1.5 as well

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ginger2:

ShockValue, when you say you have xforwardng turn on in the config, which config?

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ShockValue:

umm,

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metalac:

seems that changing font size from big to small shows no effect

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roger55:

ShockValue, on the remote box, enable it and restart sshd there

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ShockValue:

on both the local and backend machines /etc/ssh/ssh_config

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ShockValue:

ForwardX11 yes

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ginger2:

roger55, if he is doing this as root, then he will need to give root permissions in the sshd.config file, I believe

[22:19:13]

roger55:

ShockValue, X11Forwarding yes

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roger55:

ShockValue, is that what you have in /etc/ssh/sshd_config ?

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roger55:

ShockValue, on the remote machine.

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ShockValue:

oh, that was in ssh_config, not sshD_config

[22:20:29]

ShockValue:

woot! that got it

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ShockValue:

well, kinda.. it started mythtv-setup on my local box, but the fonts were all garbage

[22:21:20]

ShockValue:

dang it.. well i have to bail, that got me 1 step closer, thanks guys

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roger55:

ShockValue, try: ssh -XC .... for using compression

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Juski:

metalac: some themes don't let you change font sizes

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Juski:

projectgrayhem is in that group though i tried to make the fonts usable

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Tommck:

I upgraded my 0.19 box from an old kernel and pcHDTV drivers (1.6) to Ubuntu Dapper w/ DVB drivers. I'm now having a heck of a time trying to get the guide data to match up. Does anyone have any ideas? (after running mythtfilldatabase, I have channels with "UNKNOWN" for everything)

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Tommck:

(I reinstalled from scratch, but used the old database)

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octan:

hello people

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octan:

do anyone got a debian based init scrtipt for mythbackend ?

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Tommck:

octan – there's one in ubuntu...

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Tommck:

it's debian-based

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octan:

yea

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octan:

wiki pages?

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Tommck:

dunno..

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octan:

lol

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Tommck:

it's called mythtv-backend

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Tommck:

it just installed with a package :)

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octan:

you on ubuntu

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octan:

?

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Tommck:

yeah

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octan:

ahh

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Tommck:

installed today

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octan:

<-- kubuntu

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octan:

amd64

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octan:

:D

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Tommck:

ah

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octan:

but i built my mythtv from svn

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pushpop:

sucks that ubuntu's firewire support is wacked

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Tommck:

octan – you could probably still use the same script

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octan:

Tommck, can you send me you init scrip

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octan:

Tommck, i think so yes

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Tommck:

octan – I'll pastebin it...

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octan:

:)

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mkrufky:

Tommck: you might have to fix the xmltv id codes using the channel setup in mythweb

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Tommck:

mkrufky – ahh.. good idea

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mkrufky:

that's the only way i know how to fix that

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J-e-f-f-A:

xris – are you here now?

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Tommck:

mkrufky – thanks for the idea

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Tommck:

octan – http://pastebin.ca/173437

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Tommck:

octan – make sure that the mythtv user has access to /var/run/mythtv directory

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octan:

Tommck, thank you very much :)

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Tommck:

octan – no prob

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mkrufky:

Tommck: no problem... good luck

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Tommck:

mkrufky – how do I know what's the correct xmltv id code?

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degreseven:

i'm having problems with mythweather- the location, date & time displayed are correct, but it seems to randomly pick which day of the week to display as "tomorrow's forcast" and the "current conditions" are way off.

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mkrufky:

do ALL of your channels say UNKNOWN?

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Tommck:

mkrufky – no... just some

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mkrufky:

when i first set up ,my machine, i got new channels from datadirect, and none of them lined up with the channels that mythtv had scanned, but the networks were duobled

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mkrufky:

ie: indtead of datadirect updating my channels, it just added new ones, maybe i didn somehting wrong, i dunno

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Tommck:

mkrufky – so.. how did you fix it?

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mkrufky:

but i fixed it by copying the xmltv id's from the datadirect channels to my scanned ones

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Tommck:

are those IDs on their UI?

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Tommck:

(website?)

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mkrufky:

ie: xmltv had a channel for WABC_HD, but on the wrong channel # ... so i just copied the xmltv id to the right channel #, re-ran mythfilldatabase --refresh-all and voila!

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mkrufky:

oh, i dont know if its in the website or not

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Tommck:

where did you get the right xmltv ID?

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mkrufky:

from the channel that was added

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mkrufky:

ie:

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mkrufky:

mythfilldatabase added channel 7 for WABC_HD, but my installation sees that channel on 1_7, so i copied the xmltv id from 7 to 1_7

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mkrufky:

make sense?

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mkrufky:

....not sure if that helps you though

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Tommck:

well... here's my symptom...

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Tommck:

channel 11_1 has no data..

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Tommck:

channel 11_2 does

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Tommck:

(similar for other HD channels)

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Tommck:

so... I don't have another channel with the right data... it's just missing

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xris:

J-e-f-f-A: ??

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antiProzac:

anywhere i can find lircrc files for mythtv per remote control brand(not lircd.conf)

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antiProzac:

dont feel like mapping buttons

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xris:

antiProzac: configfiles directory in the source

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antiProzac:

lirc's mother was a hampster and lircs father smelled of elder berries

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Tommck:

antiProzac :)

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Tommck:

weird... looks like it's only missing the data for _now_

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Tommck:

if I go into the fiture, the data is there

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Anduin:

Tommck: have you tried --refresh-today?

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metalac:

Juski: how do I find out what themes are those?

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Tommck:

Anduin – I could do that... my shyte satellite connection won't even let me complete a single call to mythfilldatabase (like one download)... I had to dial-up and spend 20 minutes downloading stuff before..

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Tommck:

Anduin – so ... it's a bit of a hassle to do that, but I will :)

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Tommck:

can mysql-client 4 login to a mysql 5 database?

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Anduin:

Tommck: You can grab the file, the use the params to read from the file.

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Tommck:

(OT, I know)

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Tommck:

Anduin – it's the file download that fails.

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Tommck:

Anduin – I've been FAP'd again...

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Tommck:

Anduin – I installed a Ubuntu Dapper system from scratch today and all the updates and myth-related installs blew past their stupid policies before I could even finish the install...

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Tommck:

f'ing idiots

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Tommck:

</bitching>

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metalac:

so now i'm using a different theme and fonts are bigger

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metalac:

so apparantly mythcenter-wide, be it "official" theme and all is not supporting font changes

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metalac:

weeeeirrrrdddd

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Tommck:

how do people persist their ivtvctl function calls across reboots?

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Tommck:

an inittab entry or something?

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Anduin:

Tommck: Yes, though which settings are you trying to set?

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Tommck:

video source and audio source

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Anduin:

Tommck: Why isn't myth getting those right? Why do the settings do anything (myth will try to change them)

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Tommck:

oh...

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Tommck:

didn't think of that.

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Tommck:

don't know :)

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Tommck:

yeah... it shouldn't be a problem :)

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Anduin:

Yeah, that is why sources are associated with inputs

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Tommck:

:)

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Tommck:

I'm a little fried, I guess

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Tommck:

OT: know if mysql client 4 can connect to mysql 5 db?

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Anduin:

Tommck: I'm mostly sure I do it all the time though refuse to let you quote me on it.

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Tommck:

:)

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acm-:

where are the settings to change the definition of "high quality" video?

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Anduin:

acm-: Recording profiles

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Tommck:

Anduin – any idea why I couldn't connect remotely from one machine to another?

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darkdrgn2k:

Any one know what the 0.8.0 equivilent to "ivtvctl -p 2"

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Anduin:

Tommck: It is usually Debia/Ubuntu/other helpful distro disallowing network connections.

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Tommck:

Anduin – ubuntu :) any idea what would stop that and how I would fix it? :)

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Anduin:

Tommck: /etc/my.cnf usually, and it is mostly obvious, Google for your distro and you almost always find many pages.

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Tommck:

Anduin – thanks for being so helpful (especially on OT things)

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Tommck:

yep.. .something about "bind-address" :)

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Anduin:

Tommck: I just like to help keep people on edge about whether they will be screamed at or helped when asking OT things.

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Tommck:

:)

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Tommck:

Anduin – I appreciate the suspense :)

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antiProzac:

what is the lirc tool for creating custom lirc.conf files?

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darkdrgn2k:

:( any one have any idea wat this could be

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nomin:

Connecting to datadirect.webservices.zap2it.com|206.18.98.160|:80... connected.

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nomin:

HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 401 Unauthorized

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nomin:

what am I doing wrong?

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Anduin:

nomin: Maybe nothing

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flithm:

hey everyone... just trying out 0.20 here... awesome release kudos to all the devs. one question though: I'm trying out mythgame right now and it causes mythfrontend to crash... is it still in a broken state or have I just messed it up somehow?

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nomin:

Anduin: is something wrong with zap2it?

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flithm:

nomin: you get a bunch of those and then it will connect properly... it always does that

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Anduin:

nomin: No, it is just the first 401 is expected

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nomin:

so I just need to wait a bit?

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Anduin:

nomin: It should be quick, don't abort or anything like that, if you think you are still having trouble, pastebin a full mythfilldatabase run.

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Anduin:

flithm: No plugin was released known to be broken.

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flithm:

Anduin: hmmm... last time I was in here asking about mythgame (probably around 0.18 or earlier) someone told me mythgame was broken and not to be used

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flithm:

Anduin: at any rate, should I submit a bug report or something then?

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Anduin:

flithm: Is it actually mythgame or is it the emulator that is launched?

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flithm:

Anduin: it's mythgame, I never get a chance to actually launch a game. I can do the setup and scan for games, but when I go to browse a game if I scroll down a bit it just crashes and mythfrontend gives a segfault

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flithm:

oh wait... it's fixed now! I cleared the game data, then scanned, and now it works!

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GreyFoxx:

I was gonna say, get me a backtrace and I'd look into that

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flithm:

looks like no need. I bet you I had old an old rom db table from a long time ago or something?

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flithm:

at any rate I'm happy it works

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flithm:

does anyone know how does the genre and year browsing work for MAME roms? does it load catver from a specific location or something?

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frankrizzo:

hi, the audio in mythtv no longer works, and it is aftre i did a yum update in fedora

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antiProzac:

I have a rare remote control. Anyone know how to create a lircd.conf file for it? I ran irrecord and all seemed well, but the file doesnt have any codes in it for specific buttons

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frankrizzo:

I have it disabled the sound system in KDE to avoid conflicts

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antiProzac:

I know my serial ir receiver seems the buttons, because mode2 displayes the presses

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knoppMythNewbie:

I tried scheduled recording for the first time... Unaware that I had huge disk space wasted in /myth/tmp. The recordings failed to complete. Does the scheduler know that, and will it try those episodes again?

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mkrufky:

if you delete them, and allow re-record, they should get recorded again

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knoppMythNewbie:

I deleted the stuff out of tmp. Do I have to delete something else, the entry in previously recorded?

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