| Friday, September 15th, 2006, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:04] | simcop2387-vnc: | GreyFoxx: i didn't think so, it'd be a neat feature though |
| [00:00:39] | Kazan: | aboutblank: yes as long as you have enough CPU to downscale |
| [00:00:40] | GreyFoxx: | aboutblank: Lots ofpeople do that |
| [00:00:54] | aboutblank: | GreyFoxx: okay, so it will downsize properly then? |
| [00:01:09] | lotia: | simcop2387-vnc: yeah, it would. would really reduce tuner usage if you pad much. |
| [00:01:10] | GreyFoxx: | aboutblank: It's actually the video card that does the resizing |
| [00:01:15] | Kazan: | is there something with mythtranscode causing high load on .20? |
| [00:01:22] | aboutblank: | oh i see |
| [00:01:25] | simcop2387-vnc: | lotia: why do you need to pad anyway? |
| [00:02:16] | aboutblank: | and lotia and simcop2387-vnc : why don't you simple join the two movie files that mythtv will make? |
| [00:02:20] | aboutblank: | simply* |
| [00:02:27] | simcop2387-vnc: | aboutblank: i'm not the one doing it! |
| [00:02:33] | aboutblank: | oh sorry |
| [00:02:40] | simcop2387-vnc: | heh :) |
| [00:03:22] | peppo: | anyone know how to set up lirc/lircd to execute given commands (like xawtv-remote or ivtv-tune) when a certain remote command is received? |
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| [00:03:30] | lotia: | aboutblank: some shows start a bit earlier than stated in the program guide even though my clock is synced, so i catch the first half minute or so. |
| [00:03:39] | simcop2387-vnc: | peppo: irexec is what you want |
| [00:03:44] | lotia: | aboutblank: been burned with missing the beginning or ending of things. |
| [00:04:03] | peppo: | simcop2387-vnc, just says "uld not open config files /home/peppo/.lircrc and /etc/lircrc" |
| [00:04:08] | aboutblank: | oh i see, so there is no option to pad the time that it records.. now i totally understand what you mean. |
| [00:04:22] | simcop2387-vnc: | peppo: you still need to make a lircrc file for it |
| [00:04:49] | simcop2387-vnc: | aboutblank: the option exists, it'll just cause other recordings to conflict even if on the same channel |
| [00:04:57] | aboutblank: | gotcha |
| [00:05:09] | peppo: | I don't understand what purpose lircrc fills |
| [00:05:20] | Kazan: | why the frack is my load going OVER 6! |
| [00:05:36] | aboutblank: | who was it that said that mythtv doesn't support h.264 because ffmpeg doesn't support it? it is listed under video codecs here: http://ffmpeg.mplayerhq.hu/ffmpeg-doc.html |
| [00:06:07] | simcop2387-vnc: | peppo: it tells programs what buttons should do what things |
| [00:06:16] | GreyFoxx: | aboutblank: I didn't say it wasn't supported. All I said wsa that we use ffmpeg and therefore support whatever they do |
| [00:06:24] | GreyFoxx: | I didn't specifically comment on 264 |
| [00:06:26] | aboutblank: | ohhhhhh |
| [00:06:29] | aboutblank: | i understand. |
| [00:06:41] | ** Kazan is getting pissed ** | |
| [00:06:50] | GreyFoxx: | Kazan: Hmmm Lemme guess |
| [00:06:55] | simcop2387-vnc: | Kazan: no clue, forkbomb? |
| [00:06:56] | Beirdo: | acpid |
| [00:06:58] | GreyFoxx: | Myth 0.20 and you installed rpms ? |
| [00:07:09] | Beirdo: | that'd be my first guess when strange shit happens |
| [00:07:24] | Beirdo: | it always pegs my laptop to 10.00 load average, with 99% idle CPU |
| [00:07:34] | aboutblank: | so can you set the codec in mythtranscode? |
| [00:07:42] | Kazan: | only thing that has changed is i compiled svn mythtv .20-fixes and installed it |
| [00:08:22] | Kazan: | mythfilldatabase is running for the first time since then (hand ran) |
| [00:08:30] | GreyFoxx: | Kazan: So far everyone who has complained about increased load has either not had mmx support compiled in for some reason or using the rpms that don't include msupport |
| [00:08:44] | peppo: | I created a file: |
| [00:08:50] | peppo: | begin |
| [00:08:50] | peppo: | prog = echo "apan1">>/home/peppo/kaka |
| [00:08:51] | peppo: | button = 1 |
| [00:08:51] | peppo: | end |
| [00:08:51] | peppo: | end system |
| [00:08:53] | Kazan: | i compiled and i ran ./configure |
| [00:08:54] | peppo: | but it's not doing its job |
| [00:08:59] | Kazan: | how do i check if configure put mmx support in |
| [00:09:33] | Kazan: | i think it was mythfilldb doing it |
| [00:09:53] | simcop2387-vnc: | peppo: go read a howto on making lircrc files, thats not quite how it works |
| [00:10:51] | Kazan: | config.h has #define HAVE_MMX 1 |
| [00:13:26] | simcop2387-vnc: | whats wrong with mmx support? |
| [00:13:56] | GreyFoxx: | nothing is wrong with it |
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| [00:14:09] | GreyFoxx: | Kazan: Then it sounds like that is not your problem |
| [00:14:37] | Kazan: | yeah |
| [00:14:41] | Kazan: | load is down to next to nothing now |
| [00:14:52] | Kazan: | 2.01 watching livetv on a software encoder |
| [00:15:02] | Kazan: | with a hardware encoder recording too |
| [00:15:04] | GreyFoxx: | 2.01 ? |
| [00:15:09] | Kazan: | 2.01 load |
| [00:15:11] | GreyFoxx: | oh :) |
| [00:15:21] | hjohnson: | 2.01 load average is pretty high. :P |
| [00:15:24] | hjohnson: | 17:15:24 up 8 days, 18:07, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 |
| [00:15:27] | hjohnson: | :P |
| [00:15:33] | Kazan: | it's an AMD sempron |
| [00:15:38] | hjohnson: | wow, it's gone 8 days since it randomly powered off. |
| [00:15:40] | hjohnson: | Kazan: point. |
| [00:15:46] | Kazan: | watching liveTV on BTTV card |
| [00:15:56] | Kazan: | and it doesn't have XvMC |
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| [00:16:05] | Kazan: | how is ivtv .7 behaving? |
| [00:16:10] | Kazan: | i've been avoiding doing kernel upgrades |
| [00:16:16] | aboutblank: | can i have one hdtv tuner and one standard tuner in the same box? i only want to record some shows in HD |
| [00:16:17] | GreyFoxx: | Can't use xvmc with thebttv recordings anyway :) |
| [00:16:24] | Kazan: | yes aboutblank |
| [00:16:32] | ** hjohnson has fond memories of using BTTV cards in their direct vga overlay mode. ** | |
| [00:16:35] | aboutblank: | sweet |
| [00:16:44] | aboutblank: | i think i have way too many questions |
| [00:16:47] | hjohnson: | where the Bt card just spit the video straight to the framebuffer. |
| [00:16:56] | Kazan: | i have an old Kworld Vstream TV878RF |
| [00:17:05] | Kazan: | it's capturing video from my slaved cable box |
| [00:17:07] | Kazan: | and then a PVR-500 |
| [00:17:36] | Kazan: | [root@thorin mythtv]# uptime |
| [00:17:37] | Kazan: | 19:17:28 up 22:14, 6 users, load average: 0.22, 1.32, 2.12 |
| [00:17:52] | Kazan: | that's with just backend recording w/ hardware encoder |
| [00:18:12] | hjohnson: | Kazan: I suspect my laod will be higher, given that I'll be recording to a software RAID 5 |
| [00:18:28] | Kazan: | ouch |
| [00:19:04] | nomin: | I want to compress videos because they are taking up way too much hard drive space. I can compress videos into .avi the way I want to on windows but the audio and video aren't synchroncized right and I would rather use linux. Mythtv saves videos in huge files. I just want to save videos as the smallest possible files I can without sacrificing to much quality. What is recommended. |
| [00:19:05] | Kazan: | anyone know about how ivtv.7 is behaving? |
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| [00:19:23] | Kazan: | nomin: play with your transcode settings |
| [00:19:56] | nomin: | Kazan:; is that all? I would be extremely greatful if that is the case. |
| [00:19:56] | janneg: | Kazan: I had no problems |
| [00:20:12] | Kazan: | janneg: k.. i've been avoiding doing kernel upgrades |
| [00:20:21] | Kazan: | nomin: yeah should be |
| [00:20:28] | hjohnson: | god.. I *HATES* doing long documents in word! |
| [00:20:29] | Cuddles_in_K1: | ok folks. mythdvd won't work... i've followed the wiki, got it set to "xine -pfhq --no-splash dvd:/" but all i get is a message flashed up for a second about no plugin to handle dvds. how can i fix this? |
| [00:20:34] | Kazan: | i wish Isaac would put Xvid transcode support in *cough* |
| [00:21:16] | nomin: | Kazan: I hope so. Mythtv is awesome. This should get a kick-ass award from all linux distros. |
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| [00:21:35] | Cuddles_in_K1: | anyone? |
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| [00:21:55] | GreyFoxx: | Kazan: Myth already supports transcoding to mpeg4 |
| [00:22:10] | Kazan: | Xvid > * |
| [00:22:24] | kormoc: | xvid is a type of mpeg4... |
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| [00:22:32] | GreyFoxx: | Exactly my point |
| [00:22:36] | Kazan: | i know xvid is a type of mpeg4... however in my expirience using xvid is better than using generic mpeg4 |
| [00:22:41] | Tronic: | And lavc MPEG-4 seems to be better anyway. |
| [00:22:53] | Tronic: | (still open-source) |
| [00:23:07] | Tronic: | (but both are clearly better than DivX) |
| [00:23:12] | Kazan: | li said Xvid |
| [00:23:13] | Kazan: | not Divx |
| [00:23:17] | Kazan: | s/li/i |
| [00:23:32] | Kazan: | Divx=closed source garbage |
| [00:23:39] | kormoc: | what about opendivx? |
| [00:23:45] | Kazan: | never used it |
| [00:23:46] | Tronic: | This is nice, considering the common history of DivX and XviD. |
| [00:23:53] | kormoc: | or divx4linux? |
| [00:23:55] | Kazan: | xvid is the "real" opendivx – xvid and divx were once the same team IIRC |
| [00:24:03] | kormoc: | Kazan, not at all |
| [00:24:26] | Tronic: | The DivX Networks (could have had a different name then) started this Open-Source project codenamed Project Mayo. |
| [00:24:26] | kormoc: | xvid is a implimention of mpeg-4, as is divx, they both do about the same thing, just different code to do it |
| [00:24:29] | Kazan: | Tronic: yeah when divx when closed source they went to shit |
| [00:25:00] | ** GreyFoxx kicks off another compile to find out why his colours are messed up ** | |
| [00:25:02] | Kazan: | kormoc: if they're "just mpeg4" why can't a normal "just mpeg4" decoder understand them? |
| [00:25:02] | Tronic: | The idea was to gather skilled developers to write them a codec. |
| [00:25:03] | kormoc: | Tronic, aye, opendivx sorta became xvid |
| [00:25:10] | Tronic: | OpenDivX was created. |
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| [00:26:01] | Tronic: | Then they suddenly went commercial with their "all new codebase" binary-only ad-funded DivX, that didn't have anything to do with OpenDivX (or so they said, but people found their code inside it). |
| [00:26:01] | kormoc: | Kazan, actually, any fully iso complient mpeg-4 decoder can decode it whtn they are encoded into iso compliant streams, they all have extensions that are optional |
| [00:26:07] | Kazan: | i <3 hardware encoders |
| [00:26:27] | Kazan: | playing back an mpeg2 stream and recording one off a hardware encoder – 5–10% CPU usage (fluctuating) |
| [00:26:39] | GreyFoxx: | Man, I love distcc |
| [00:26:47] | Kazan: | kormoc: and it's the extensions that give them their unique properties, correct? |
| [00:26:50] | kormoc: | Kazan, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XVID#Playing_XviD_encoded_files |
| [00:27:00] | kormoc: | Kazan, Since XviD uses MPEG-4 Advanced Simple Profile (ASP) compression, video encoded with XviD is MPEG-4 ASP video and can therefore be decoded with all MPEG-4 ASP compliant decoders. This includes a large number of media players |
| [00:27:12] | Tronic: | Obviously developers got pissed of this and XviD was founded, based on the last free OpenDivX codebase. The mission was to ultimately eliminate all old OpenDivX code with the Mayo license (dunno if they got there already). |
| [00:27:16] | Cuddles_in_K1: | for some reason, mythdvd won't work for me... i've followed the wiki, got it set to "xine -pfhq --no-splash dvd:/" but all i get is a message flashed up for a second about no plugin to handle dvds. how can i fix this? |
| [00:27:51] | GreyFoxx: | Cuddles_in_K1: REcompile or reconfigure Xine :) |
| [00:27:59] | GreyFoxx: | OR if you are running 0.20 use the Internal myth dvd player |
| [00:28:07] | kormoc: | Tronic, they did a long time ago (remove the mayo code) |
| [00:28:14] | Anduin: | Cuddles_in_K1: or run xine manually and look at the error |
| [00:28:30] | Tronic: | kormoc: Good. |
| [00:28:34] | Cuddles_in_K1: | greyfoxx, not using 0.20, and how do i reconfigure it? this is on debian, btw. |
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| [00:29:01] | GreyFoxx: | Cuddles_in_K1: I would do as Anduin: Suggests. Run it manually and see what the exacty error is |
| [00:29:21] | Tronic: | It is also not difficult to tell which way the skilled coders went, after comparing the picture quality of DivX and XviD. |
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| [00:29:28] | simcop2387-vnc: | GreyFoxx: Distcc++ |
| [00:29:49] | GreyFoxx: | simpc: It makes multiple compiles on my frontends not nearly as painful :) |
| [00:30:07] | Tronic: | Btw, does anyone know what the relation between XviD and lacv is? I suppose that they share most code instead of reinventing wheels? |
| [00:30:16] | Tronic: | *LAVC |
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| [00:30:56] | Tronic: | Still, I have seen lavc being able to compress better with very similar settigns. |
| [00:31:01] | simcop2387-vnc: | GreyFoxx: its very nice with putting new apps on a 486 laptop :) |
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| [00:31:08] | Kazan: | anytime i see divx encoded video from someone i know, i scold them |
| [00:31:31] | simcop2387-vnc: | Kazan: i only encode to snow! |
| [00:31:33] | GreyFoxx: | 4 frontends, 2 backends, 2 windowspc's running linux under vmware and my desktop machine all help at compile time :) |
| [00:31:37] | kormoc: | Tronic, libavc currently uses almost 100% exactly xvid's codebase, with some very specifc to libav changes |
| [00:31:37] | Kazan: | lol simcop2387-vnc |
| [00:31:49] | ** Kazan gives GreyFoxx the bird ** | |
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| [00:32:03] | kormoc: | now, be nice Kazan |
| [00:32:09] | Kazan: | hehe |
| [00:32:10] | simcop2387-vnc: | GreyFoxx: i have 1 frontend/backend/desktop combo |
| [00:32:14] | Kazan: | i wish i had a hardware budget that big |
| [00:32:15] | Tronic: | It is possible that I have had different versions of those. I only use what my distro provides, never bothered to look closer. |
| [00:32:35] | GreyFoxx: | I shouldadd my work machines to the mix since I've got a fast connection to the office |
| [00:32:36] | Cuddles_in_K1: | ok, the error i get when trying xine manually is, "there is no demuxer plugin available to handle /dev/dvd" |
| [00:32:47] | simcop2387-vnc: | sounds like no dvd support in xine |
| [00:32:49] | peppo: | anyone know where xawtv developers might hang out? |
| [00:32:52] | Kazan: | yup |
| [00:33:01] | Kazan: | you need to reinstall xine and make sure you compile dvd support |
| [00:33:05] | Tronic: | Or possibly different settings, as the settings UI provided by Avidemux2 for each is different so it is not possible to match the settings exactly. |
| [00:33:06] | GreyFoxx: | peppo: *shrug* There is a #xawtv channel |
| [00:33:19] | simcop2387-vnc: | GreyFoxx: i just checked, there isn't |
| [00:33:20] | peppo: | GreyFoxx, which network? |
| [00:33:27] | simcop2387-vnc: | not here anyway |
| [00:33:30] | GreyFoxx: | mode/#xawtv [+sn] by leguin.freenode.net |
| [00:33:33] | GreyFoxx: | Yes there is |
| [00:33:33] | peppo: | right. |
| [00:33:39] | GreyFoxx: | /mode #xawtv |
| [00:33:40] | GreyFoxx: | :) |
| [00:33:51] | GreyFoxx: | tells you the channel;s modes if it exists even when set to secret |
| [00:34:00] | simcop2387-vnc: | [20:33:48] --- Channel #xawtv created on Thu Sep 14 20:33:37 2006 |
| [00:34:04] | kormoc: | GreyFoxx, ooh, that's amusing |
| [00:34:39] | GreyFoxx: | Maybe he had just joined it when I tried it :) |
| [00:34:51] | simcop2387-vnc: | either way its not here :) |
| [00:34:55] | peppo: | I joined it some time ago |
| [00:35:24] | simcop2387-vnc: | or it could have been me checking :) |
| [00:35:28] | GreyFoxx: | It wsa when I checked,but now that he's left it's gone :) |
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| [00:35:46] | fhuzy: | does the pvr-350 work well? just ordered mine today |
| [00:35:49] | peppo: | I've checked out xawtv CVS (with nice GTK2 UI), but it's crashing a bit... |
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| [00:36:07] | GreyFoxx: | fhuzy: Are you low on CPU or something ? |
| [00:36:17] | GreyFoxx: | If you are not the 350 is really not worth the money |
| [00:36:23] | fhuzy: | eh PIII 800 |
| [00:36:42] | GreyFoxx: | That should be fine for standard def playback |
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| [00:37:02] | GreyFoxx: | You'd honestly be better off with a 150 and an nvidia card |
| [00:37:04] | simcop2387-vnc: | get a 500 instead and a $20 nvidia card with tv-out :) |
| [00:37:06] | human39: | any documentation on the new mythtv perl bindings yet? |
| [00:37:06] | simcop2387-vnc: | heh |
| [00:37:21] | simcop2387-vnc: | GreyFoxx: if he can afford a 350, i'd go straight to a 500 :) |
| [00:37:24] | fhuzy: | I got a pretty good deal on the 350, new for 99 a new 150 wasn't much cheaper |
| [00:37:35] | simcop2387-vnc: | fhuzy: oh that isn't a bad deal at all |
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| [00:38:05] | GreyFoxx: | fhuzy: Nice, but you might seriously consider using an nvidia card for output and just use the 350 to record |
| [00:38:34] | fhuzy: | amazon.com has them for 129.99, $30 off for getting a amazon visa I'm going to cancel lol |
| [00:38:38] | GreyFoxx: | any modern nvidia card's output will look the same or better, and you don't have anyh of the 350's deficiencies |
| [00:39:42] | human39: | depending out your output needs I got a nvidia gforce4 for the composit TV out, works like a charm, only $40 if I remember. I would suggest getting the fastest card without a fan, cuts a little sound down. |
| [00:40:10] | simcop2387-vnc: | i've got a 5200 in my parents mythbox with no fan, works great |
| [00:40:11] | fhuzy: | if I can find one for free I'll do that, for now I'm cheap will use the 350 until then :) |
| [00:40:34] | fhuzy: | what's wrong with the 350 output? |
| [00:40:38] | ** simcop2387-vnc wonders whats going to happen when nvidia makes a 9600 :) ** | |
| [00:40:45] | simcop2387-vnc: | fhuzy: low res, mpeg only |
| [00:40:51] | PDiddy: | heck, GeForce4MX == uuberl337 for MythTV... And you can pick 'em up for <$30 |
| [00:40:52] | fhuzy: | ah, k |
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| [00:41:08] | simcop2387-vnc: | and i hear it can be difficult sometimes to setup |
| [00:41:17] | GreyFoxx: | and no opengl support etc |
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| [00:41:49] | fhuzy: | k, I'm in my companies IT dept so I'll keep an eye out for an nvid laying around |
| [00:42:30] | human39: | I think I spent more on my soundcard than on my video card. |
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| [00:43:29] | simcop2387-vnc: | human39: heh |
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| [00:44:46] | human39: | I got the Audigy for scalibility (ie, surround sound one day) |
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| [00:45:21] | aboutblank: | anyone have an HD-5500? if so, do you like it? it does hardware encoding on the standard NTSC to mpeg2 doesn't it? |
| [00:45:24] | phaedrus44: | hey hey....anyone have a good wiki or tutorial on how to install on ubuntu 6.06 |
| [00:45:25] | phaedrus44: | ? |
| [00:45:31] | phaedrus44: | mythtv that is... |
| [00:45:33] | aboutblank: | wrong chat? |
| [00:45:35] | PDiddy: | lol |
| [00:45:54] | fhuzy: | does myth's commerical advance work well? |
| [00:46:03] | fhuzy: | coming from a replaytv.. |
| [00:46:04] | aboutblank: | phaedrus44: have you used linux before? |
| [00:46:18] | simcop2387-vnc: | pretty well, sometimes i have it mess up on dark tv shows (when i don't have logo detection on) |
| [00:46:32] | fhuzy: | cool thx |
| [00:47:17] | phaedrus44: | aboutblank...yes about 3 years |
| [00:47:22] | simcop2387-vnc: | and some channels like to be a**es about it and don't have blank scenes before commercials (or after) so that it messes up tivos :) |
| [00:47:29] | phaedrus44: | debian for 2 tears and ubuntu for the last year or so |
| [00:47:47] | aboutblank: | phaedrus44: then read http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/User_Manual:Index |
| [00:47:54] | phaedrus44: | cool...thanks... |
| [00:48:19] | fhuzy: | yeah scifi chan has a nack at defeating ca on replaytv |
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| [00:54:01] | aboutblank: | anyone have an HD-5500? if so, do you like it? it does hardware encoding on the standard NTSC to mpeg2 doesn't it? |
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| [00:55:33] | kormoc: | aboutblank, iirc, only the ATSC stream is mpeg2, the V4L stream is just raw video, aka a bttv card |
| [00:55:51] | hjohnson: | we don't get much ATSC here.. |
| [00:55:58] | hjohnson: | OTA tv is basically going away. |
| [00:56:12] | aboutblank: | NTSC... standard television |
| [00:56:17] | hjohnson: | but then cable penetration combined with satellite penetration here is virtually 100% |
| [00:56:25] | hjohnson: | NTSC == Never Twice Same Colour |
| [00:56:31] | kormoc: | aboutblank, don't bother getting it for ntsc, it's not worth it |
| [00:56:41] | kormoc: | aboutblank, a pvr 150/500 is cheaper and better for standard ntsc |
| [00:56:51] | kormoc: | the only reason to get a 5500 is for atsc |
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| [00:57:08] | aboutblank: | kormoc: well i don't have an HDTV, but i'd love to record shows and watch the hdtv stuff on my computer |
| [00:57:25] | aboutblank: | but then use the mythtv box for standard TV |
| [00:57:30] | kormoc: | aboutblank, sure, but you're not gonna get hd over ntsc... |
| [00:57:41] | kormoc: | aboutblank, given you're a comcast customer, you should look into firewire |
| [00:58:02] | aboutblank: | i'm asking if the hd 5500 will encode ntsc into mpeg2 |
| [00:58:19] | aboutblank: | a) why the heck firewire? b) i won't be a comcast customer for long |
| [00:58:29] | aboutblank: | verizon FIOS tv baby |
| [00:58:52] | Kazan: | a) firewire to slave FCC-regs compliant HDTV STBs |
| [01:00:06] | aboutblank: | so if i buy the hdtv package from comcast, do i NEED a STB to decode the signal or would an hd 5500 decode it? |
| [01:00:30] | simcop2387-vnc: | most likely the STB |
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| [01:00:48] | aboutblank: | urgh, tv is complicated :( |
| [01:00:50] | lotia: | any gentoo users on running mythweb-0.20? |
| [01:01:13] | simcop2387-vnc: | not me not yet, haven't done mythweb updates |
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| [01:02:24] | PDiddy: | I'm still living in Analog MythTV land... My first attempt at FireWire communication with my HDTV cable box failed :-/ |
| [01:03:08] | Cardoe: | kormoc: they come on DirecTV (firewire) too? |
| [01:03:27] | Cardoe: | lotia: what's wrong |
| [01:03:48] | Cardoe: | Cox has unencoded streams apparently |
| [01:05:45] | lotia: | Cardoe: i'm getting the "Database Setup Error" have looked at the readme and the Wiki |
| [01:06:29] | lotia: | i have the appropriate Directory entry in /etc/apache2/vhosts.d/00_default_vhost.conf |
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| [01:08:25] | lotia: | Cardoe http://pastebin.ca/171102 is the error message |
| [01:09:07] | fhuzy: | ok upgraded my order to a pvr-500 :) |
| [01:09:36] | aboutblank: | if you get firewire out from a STB, is it already mpeg2? |
| [01:10:10] | simcop2387-vnc: | either mpeg2 or mpeg4 |
| [01:10:17] | simcop2387-vnc: | i think those are the typical two you get |
| [01:10:26] | aboutblank: | i see |
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| [01:12:09] | hobophobe: | What do the icons when looking at recorded programs mean? I get CC, but what's the toilet paper? the speaker? |
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| [01:19:15] | aboutblank: | means your show got TPed by local kids |
| [01:20:29] | opello: | hobophobe: hit f1 on the watch recordings page |
| [01:22:53] | unclejoe: | hello I'm trying to compile mythtv latest svn and I'm getting this error -lXrandr -lXvMCNVIDIA -lXvMC -lqt-mt -lGLU -lGL -lXmu -lXext -lX11 -lm -lpthread |
| [01:22:53] | unclejoe: | ../../libs/libavcodec/libmythavcodec-0.20.so: undefined reference to `XvMCLoadQMatrix' |
| [01:22:53] | unclejoe: | ../../libs/libmythtv/libmythtv-0.20.so: undefined reference to `_xvmc_create_context' |
| [01:22:54] | unclejoe: | ../../libs/libmythtv/libmythtv-0.20.so: undefined reference to `XvMCListSurfaceTypes' |
| [01:22:54] | unclejoe: | ../../libs/libmythtv/libmythtv-0.20.so: undefined reference to `XvMCListSubpictureTypes' |
| [01:22:55] | unclejoe: | ../../libs/libmythtv/libmythtv-0.20.so: undefined reference to `_xvmc_create_subpicture' |
| [01:22:57] | unclejoe: | ../../libs/libmythtv/libmythtv-0.20.so: undefined reference to `XvMCQueryVersion' |
| [01:22:59] | unclejoe: | ../../libs/libmythtv/libmythtv-0.20.so: undefined reference to `_xvmc_create_surface' |
| [01:23:01] | unclejoe: | ../../libs/libavcodec/libmythavcodec-0.20.so: undefined reference to `XvMCBeginSurface' |
| [01:23:03] | unclejoe: | ../../libs/libmythtv/libmythtv-0.20.so: undefined reference to `_xvmc_destroy_subpicture' |
| [01:23:05] | unclejoe: | ../../libs/libmythtv/libmythtv-0.20.so: undefined reference to `XvMCQueryExtension' |
| [01:23:07] | unclejoe: | ../../libs/libmythtv/libmythtv-0.20.so: undefined reference to `XvMCPutSlice2' |
| [01:23:09] | unclejoe: | ../../libs/libmythtv/libmythtv-0.20.so: undefined reference to `_xvmc_destroy_context' |
| [01:23:11] | unclejoe: | ../../libs/libmythtv/libmythtv-0.20.so: undefined reference to `_xvmc_destroy_surface' |
| [01:23:15] | unclejoe: | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| [01:23:17] | unclejoe: | Does anyone know how to solve this. |
| [01:23:25] | aboutblank: | do NOT do that |
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| [01:23:30] | GreyFoxx: | unclejoe: USe pastebin.ca next time |
| [01:23:32] | aboutblank: | use pastebin.ca |
| [01:23:35] | GreyFoxx: | do not flood the channel |
| [01:23:46] | unclejoe: | sorry |
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| [01:24:31] | aboutblank: | looks like you don't have xvmc installed though? |
| [01:25:59] | unclejoe: | how do i check to see if it installed? |
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| [01:29:38] | aboutblank: | does anyone have verizon HD fios tv? |
| [01:31:41] | seth|laptop: | how would one install a irblaster config file, or rather where? |
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| [01:39:43] | Beirdo: | my ISP blows |
| [01:39:59] | Beirdo: | they filter outbound TCP/6667 and TCP/3128 |
| [01:40:02] | Beirdo: | and likely others |
| [01:40:12] | ShockValue: | well this sucks ass.. radio shack had every part i needed for this IR reciever, EXCEPT the IR reciever part. |
| [01:40:36] | yodalives: | hey, has anybody had problems with audio using a pvr-350 and the new internal player? |
| [01:40:55] | ShockValue: | from what i hear, the pvr350 is just pretty much messed up in .20 now |
| [01:41:12] | GreyFoxx: | How so ? |
| [01:41:13] | yodalives: | that sucks considering it's the best video out you can find |
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| [01:41:28] | Beirdo: | GreyFoxx, I hate Liberty more by the day |
| [01:41:53] | mkrufky: | hey guys, that MMX bug is fixed in ATrpms now :-D like i said, it was ready for me before i even got home! |
| [01:42:01] | ShockValue: | i dunno, someone was hear earlier saying they were having video out problems with their pvr350 and got the "its not supported anymore, its not working right" thing |
| [01:42:07] | mkrufky: | time well spent in this chat room today :-) |
| [01:42:27] | mkrufky: | thanks to all involved |
| [01:42:31] | mkrufky is now known as mkrufky-away | |
| [01:43:25] | aboutblank: | anyone have verizon fios hdtv? |
| [01:44:29] | unclejoe: | Has anyone here had any sucess compiling with nvidia lib XvMCNVIDIA, and opengl? |
| [01:44:50] | simcop2387-vnc: | yep, i have it setup here, don't use it though i want my color UI |
| [01:45:06] | simcop2387-vnc: | ShockValue: fun, i haven't built one of them yet, the lirc page had a list of replacements you can use |
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| [01:48:04] | darkdrgn2k: | any one if there is a ivtv channel |
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| [01:48:32] | mortal5: | has anyone in here succeded in using ffmpeg under ubuntu? |
| [01:49:00] | ShockValue: | simcop2387-vnc: this was the only one they had at my local ratshack. and it's not listed anywhere on the lirc site or any other place i can find (276–145) |
| [01:53:07] | ShockValue: | hrm, i cant find the tsop1738 on radio shack at all anymore |
| [01:57:02] | simcop2387-vnc: | hmm |
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| [02:01:10] | ShockValue: | reading more, it seems the tsop1738 isnt a radio shack part at all.. i misinterpreted that |
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| [02:02:02] | ru: | lo all |
| [02:02:12] | ru: | my left channel is just static when i watch tv |
| [02:02:18] | ru: | videos are fine |
| [02:02:26] | ru: | anyone else experienced this? |
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| [02:09:18] | ShockValue: | blah, back to the radio shack.. http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?s . . . ;tab=summary |
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| [02:10:52] | Mattwj2005: | hey guys I bought it :D |
| [02:11:28] | Mattwj2005: | a nice 27 inch SDTV |
| [02:12:39] | Zider: | only 27? :P |
| [02:13:25] | Mattwj2005: | it sure beats my old 19 inch |
| [02:13:30] | Zider: | ;) |
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| [02:13:46] | Zider: | I have a 32" wide, and it's starting to feel small |
| [02:14:09] | Mattwj2005: | what type of tv? |
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| [02:15:26] | Mattwj2005: | plasma, lcd, projection, crt? |
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| [02:16:16] | Zider: | crt |
| [02:16:26] | Mattwj2005: | cool |
| [02:16:35] | Mattwj2005: | I wasn't sure they made widescreen crts |
| [02:16:44] | Mattwj2005: | I don't know a lot about tvs though |
| [02:17:12] | kgbudz: | well, i just upgraded to .20 via yum |
| [02:17:13] | Mattwj2005: | the only thing I know is that I can watch Stargate on them ;) |
| [02:17:17] | kgbudz: | and i get the following error: Duplicate column name 'first' |
| [02:17:19] | kgbudz: | anyone? |
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| [02:18:13] | Zider: | Mattwj2005: SG1 or Atlantis? |
| [02:18:29] | Mattwj2005: | both actually...it is sad about SG-1 though :( |
| [02:18:35] | kgbudz: | o wow,this is bad |
| [02:18:40] | Zider: | they'll find another channel |
| [02:18:42] | kgbudz: | it turns out my backend ran |
| [02:18:45] | kgbudz: | then it got killed |
| [02:18:48] | kgbudz: | now i get this error |
| [02:19:00] | Mattwj2005: | hopefully but that will be weird |
| [02:19:08] | kgbudz: | so it tried to upgrade itself, but got killed in the middle? |
| [02:19:12] | Mattwj2005: | SGA on one channel and SG1 on another |
| [02:19:24] | Mattwj2005: | hopefully they won't show at the same time :) |
| [02:20:07] | Zider: | well, I don't have the channel anyway.. |
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| [02:20:24] | Mattwj2005: | you don't have SciFi? |
| [02:20:26] | Zider: | I, ehh, buy the dvd's.. right.. buy them.. ;) |
| [02:20:34] | Zider: | nope |
| [02:20:44] | Mattwj2005: | yeah buy them...got you ;) |
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| [02:21:16] | Zider: | only way for me to see it |
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| [02:21:31] | Zider: | scifi isn't available in sweden unless I put up a sat dish |
| [02:23:08] | Mattwj2005: | got you |
| [02:23:15] | Mattwj2005: | Sky One? |
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| [02:23:31] | Zider: | nope |
| [02:23:41] | kgbudz: | anyone know where the script is which mythtv uses to upgrade itself? |
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| [02:24:56] | Mattwj2005: | well I know you can download it off of iTunes and Amazon....in the US anyways |
| [02:25:02] | simcop2387-vnc: | Zider: my parents got a 56" 16:9 HDTV, i forget what exactly the display tech is called, but it uses a curved mirror and an lcd screen like a projector, looks really nice |
| [02:25:05] | simcop2387-vnc: | oh my router |
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| [02:25:22] | Zider: | simcop2387-vnc: neat |
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| [02:28:30] | lumpToe: | Im trying to calibrate my PVR150 Coax In with a DVD; most of the shows that I record are washed out. Is there a way that I can finetune the channel signal from "Watch TV" |
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| [02:32:41] | kgbudz: | where do i go for some serious mythtv help? |
| [02:32:59] | aboutblank: | we aren't serious enough :( |
| [02:33:10] | aboutblank: | not even serious enough to answer that questions |
| [02:33:15] | aboutblank: | question* |
| [02:33:15] | kgbudz: | like i upgraded to .2 |
| [02:33:18] | kgbudz: | ran the backend |
| [02:33:24] | kgbudz: | but it got killed in the middle of the upgrade |
| [02:33:25] | kury]: | once I have the mythtv backend setup and running... how do I add videos' that I've d/led into the myth db's? |
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| [02:33:32] | kgbudz: | so now i have an incomplete db upgrade |
| [02:33:47] | aboutblank: | did you backup like you were supposed to? |
| [02:33:50] | kgbudz: | when i run the backend, it errors because the upgrade was halfway done |
| [02:34:01] | kgbudz: | no, but if i can find the upgrade script |
| [02:34:08] | kgbudz: | i know what is done |
| [02:34:12] | aboutblank: | don't you just run mythtvsetup? |
| [02:34:35] | kgbudz: | so is the upgrade script coded in the binary? |
| [02:34:53] | kgbudz: | cause i just need to get rid of the 1st few sql commands |
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| [02:36:36] | kgbudz: | so i guess my next question is where do i go to get some serious mythtv help |
| [02:36:36] | aboutblank: | just run mythtv-setup |
| [02:36:43] | kury]: | once I have the mythtv backend setup and running... how do I add videos' that I've d/led into the myth db's? |
| [02:36:44] | aboutblank: | i think? |
| [02:36:51] | aboutblank: | ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i don't know |
| [02:36:58] | aboutblank: | i don't even have a mythtv box |
| [02:37:13] | kgbudz: | figured |
| [02:37:18] | aboutblank: | kgbudz: you can try http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/ |
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| [02:39:58] | ender224455: | hi all, I have a question related to linux |
| [02:40:36] | ender224455: | I'm trying to boot off a live cd, and I keep getting errors, usually kernel panics.. Sometimes it says that there is a problem loading /etc/init |
| [02:40:51] | Beirdo: | hmmm, why not try #linux? |
| [02:41:02] | Beirdo: | this is a mythtv channel, not general linux help |
| [02:41:03] | ender224455: | I've literally taken out every card and harddrive, the only things remaining are the video card, cd drive, memory, and cpu |
| [02:41:07] | ender224455: | k |
| [02:41:14] | Beirdo: | but since yer here |
| [02:41:14] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [02:41:23] | Mattwj2005: | here is a weird question.... |
| [02:41:25] | Beirdo: | does your live cd have a memtest? |
| [02:41:32] | ender224455: | yes |
| [02:41:41] | Beirdo: | if so, try running it, that will get rid of the memory variable |
| [02:41:50] | Mattwj2005: | I think I am getting more channels on my new TV than on my pchdtv-5500 card |
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| [02:41:53] | ender224455: | the memory has been working up til yesterday, but alright |
| [02:41:54] | Mattwj2005: | what is that? |
| [02:41:54] | ender224455: | thanks |
| [02:41:57] | Mattwj2005: | *why |
| [02:42:11] | Beirdo: | worth a try, a good step towards determining the issue |
| [02:42:18] | Beirdo: | hope it's not a flaky CPU |
| [02:42:50] | jenn`: | I'm having trouble getting audio working with mythtv. if i use ALSA:default I get the error WriteAudio: buffer underrun. tvtime works fine. anyone mind helping? |
| [02:43:07] | ender224455: | Beirdo: I did just ad a different CPU fan.. could that have done something? |
| [02:43:37] | Beirdo: | possibly... make sure the CPU is well-seated and that your CPU heatsink grease is properly applied, etc |
| [02:43:58] | ender224455: | alright, thanks |
| [02:44:06] | Beirdo: | good luck :( |
| [02:44:21] | Beirdo: | jenn`, dunno, I always used the OSS emulation or OSS |
| [02:44:29] | Beirdo: | can't help on that one, sorry |
| [02:45:00] | jenn`: | Beirdo, well I do have OSS installed...so how could I go about using that if I wanted to try it? |
| [02:45:17] | jenn`: | I mean, anything is better than what I currently have, |
| [02:45:23] | Beirdo: | I think you set the device to /dev/dsp |
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| [02:45:44] | jenn`: | yeah that didnt make any sound either... |
| [02:45:51] | Beirdo: | or /dev/dsp0 if you have more than one sound card... and /dev/dsp1 for the second card, etc |
| [02:46:12] | Beirdo: | you run alsamixer to setup the mixer levels? |
| [02:46:14] | jenn`: | yeah just /dev/dsp. but it def didnt do anything |
| [02:46:20] | jenn`: | Beirdo, yeah. tvtime works perfectly,t hats what gets me |
| [02:46:27] | Beirdo: | tvtime is different |
| [02:46:42] | jenn`: | I mean everyone else is like oh alsa is supported natively, shoudlnt be an issue, etc etc....yet its an issue. |
| [02:46:49] | Beirdo: | for tvtime, there is no capturing going on, only audio being mixed from line in to line out |
| [02:46:53] | jenn`: | ok |
| [02:47:08] | Beirdo: | in myth, it actually captures, and then plays back via PCM->line out |
| [02:47:15] | Beirdo: | so the mixer settings are different |
| [02:47:26] | jenn`: | so is there any settings I need tobe messing with |
| [02:47:48] | Beirdo: | generally, mute line in, set the mixer for line in to about 80% |
| [02:48:07] | Beirdo: | then fiddle PCM out volume to get it as loud as you want |
| [02:48:20] | Beirdo: | there may be others too, it can get confusing. |
| [02:48:32] | Beirdo: | I think it's actually covered in the mythtv docs somewhere too |
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| [02:48:43] | ** kormoc taps Beirdo and points him to his private messages ** | |
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| [02:48:59] | aboutblank: | what filesystem do you use for your mythtv recordings? |
| [02:49:09] | difeta: | hey all. Anybody know of ubuntu packages for .20? I'm looking to upgrade |
| [02:49:16] | Beirdo: | nice domain, GreyFoxx |
| [02:49:17] | kormoc: | aboutblank, ext3 is what I use |
| [02:49:25] | Beirdo: | I use xfs |
| [02:49:40] | Beirdo: | much much faster at deleting, etc large files than ext3 is |
| [02:49:46] | aboutblank: | can xfs be spread over multiple physical HD's? |
| [02:49:50] | brianko: | difeta: source code for .20 builds flawlessly on ubuntu, upgraded from .18 with no problems |
| [02:49:58] | kgbudz: | how long does it take to upgrade the .20 mythtv schema? |
| [02:50:03] | Beirdo: | if it's run over top of LVM or RAID0, yes |
| [02:50:08] | Beirdo: | LVM preferrably |
| [02:50:15] | brianko: | kgbudz: about a minute |
| [02:50:17] | difeta: | brianko, I suppose I could compile from source with checkinstall |
| [02:50:32] | Beirdo: | xfs -> LVM -> RAID5 is the "ultimate" solution in my mind |
| [02:50:37] | aboutblank: | nice, thanks Beirdo |
| [02:50:43] | brianko: | difeta: .18 was the package, just decided to bite the bullet and do the build on .20. Took about 20 minutes |
| [02:51:15] | brianko: | had to run ldconfig /usr/local/lib manually, mythtv-setup, that was it |
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| [02:51:33] | difeta: | brianko, that is an impressive build time. |
| [02:51:46] | GreyFoxx: | Beirdo: Hehe |
| [02:51:55] | GreyFoxx: | My box was offline for a minute :) |
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| [02:52:04] | kgbudz: | ya, im running xfs over an lvm |
| [02:52:05] | kgbudz: | 2tb |
| [02:52:11] | aboutblank: | DAMN |
| [02:52:14] | kgbudz: | this schema upgrade is taking forever... |
| [02:52:26] | aboutblank: | 2 TB?? what config is that? |
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| [02:52:28] | kgbudz: | seeing how i almost destroyed my db already, im going to let it sit |
| [02:52:32] | pushpop: | nice, how many hd's it total kgbudz |
| [02:52:38] | kgbudz: | 5 in my master |
| [02:52:41] | kgbudz: | 4 in my slave |
| [02:52:47] | aboutblank: | raid? |
| [02:52:50] | pushpop: | haha good lord |
| [02:52:54] | kgbudz: | jbod |
| [02:53:02] | kgbudz: | i had to write my own archive job |
| [02:53:09] | kgbudz: | to move recordings around both machines |
| [02:53:17] | aboutblank: | crazy |
| [02:53:27] | aboutblank: | i wish storage was cheaper :( |
| [02:53:30] | kgbudz: | anyway, i fixed my problem from earlier |
| [02:53:36] | aboutblank: | i hope holographic disks come out soon.. |
| [02:53:40] | kgbudz: | i just went into mysql and undid all the db changes and restarted |
| [02:53:48] | kgbudz: | scope this out |
| [02:53:55] | kgbudz: | this is going to be my new server |
| [02:54:10] | Mattwj2005: | hopefully with holographic disc there won't be two standards competing |
| [02:54:11] | kgbudz: | http://www.rezsoft.org/server.html |
| [02:54:12] | Beirdo: | my fileserver is running xfs over LVM2 over hardware RAID5 :) |
| [02:54:26] | kgbudz: | its going to be a vista server |
| [02:54:39] | kgbudz: | not sure if i can run linux with mythtv over virtual pc... |
| [02:54:43] | kgbudz: | using a pvr card.. |
| [02:54:53] | Beirdo: | good luck with that :) |
| [02:55:04] | Beirdo: | might work, but I wouldn't bet on it |
| [02:55:08] | aboutblank: | wow no one would ever do that |
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| [02:55:27] | Mattwj2005: | be careful with Vista....new Microsoft OSes always have a lot of security problems |
| [02:55:36] | kgbudz: | o really? |
| [02:55:40] | aboutblank: | all microsoft products** |
| [02:55:46] | kgbudz: | im not really worried about security |
| [02:55:48] | Mattwj2005: | XP and 2K did anyways |
| [02:55:57] | kgbudz: | ms makes some fine products in my opinion |
| [02:55:59] | Mattwj2005: | good point aboutblank |
| [02:56:01] | Beirdo: | hahah |
| [02:56:12] | Mattwj2005: | one word for you....update ;) |
| [02:56:12] | kgbudz: | seriously... |
| [02:56:15] | Beirdo: | MS makes FINE products? ooooh boy |
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| [02:56:34] | kgbudz: | its gets bad press |
| [02:56:43] | kgbudz: | but when it comes down to it, ms software is pretty solid |
| [02:56:51] | Beirdo: | if ya define fine as overpriced, bloated, and full of security holes and stolen code... sure |
| [02:56:57] | aboutblank: | i have SO many questions about mythtv.. it's crazy. i think i'm over complicating the whole thing. |
| [02:57:20] | SlicerDicer-: | woah mythcenter wide looks so much nicer :) |
| [02:57:26] | pushpop: | just make sure you have a lot of free time autoblank |
| [02:57:26] | Mattwj2005: | for hundreds of dollars it should be a fine OS and it should make you breakfast :-P |
| [02:57:54] | Beirdo: | for hundreds of dollars Office should give you sexual favors every time you start it up |
| [02:58:02] | Mattwj2005: | lol |
| [02:58:15] | aboutblank: | mmmmm <3 Clippy |
| [02:58:38] | ** Mattwj2005 thinks Clippy should die ** | |
| [02:58:43] | kgbudz: | great, now i got another error in my schema upgrade... |
| [02:58:55] | ** Beirdo blames Bill Gates ** | |
| [02:59:03] | kgbudz: | Got error 127 from storage engine |
| [02:59:13] | Mattwj2005: | when all else fails blame Bill |
| [02:59:30] | aboutblank: | if i get an HD 5500 tuner, can i record in standard NTSC to mpeg2? |
| [02:59:47] | Mattwj2005: | yeah you can |
| [02:59:53] | Mattwj2005: | I got one aboutblank |
| [02:59:55] | kgbudz: | do i have too many recordings? |
| [02:59:56] | aboutblank: | i don't have an HDTV, but watching HD on my computer monitor would be awesome |
| [03:00:23] | aboutblank: | Mattwj2005: it does hardware mpeg2 encoding for ntsc? |
| [03:00:32] | Mattwj2005: | the only think that I don't like about it is it can't record analog and HDTV at the same time |
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| [03:00:40] | Mattwj2005: | for HDTV yes for analog no |
| [03:00:57] | aboutblank: | but with HDTV you get an mpeg2 stream anyway right? |
| [03:01:20] | Mattwj2005: | exactly...it actually doesn't encode it just dumps it to the hard drive |
| [03:01:36] | Mattwj2005: | HDTV is so beautiful |
| [03:01:41] | Mattwj2005: | I recommend it to anyone |
| [03:01:50] | aboutblank: | but then i'm confused as hell... do i need a hdtv tuner? or do i need to firewire to a STB for hd channels? |
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| [03:02:18] | Mattwj2005: | I haven't worked with firewire much |
| [03:02:27] | pushpop: | does ur box have firewire |
| [03:02:28] | Mattwj2005: | some of these other guys can help though :) |
| [03:02:36] | kgbudz: | o wow, i have 7.5 million records in the table which errored... |
| [03:02:40] | pushpop: | ur cable box |
| [03:02:43] | aboutblank: | i don't have my cable box yet. |
| [03:02:51] | aboutblank: | i'll be switching to Verizon FiOS TV soon |
| [03:03:06] | pushpop: | firewire cable right from your cable box to your pc |
| [03:03:09] | pushpop: | where you from? |
| [03:03:11] | aboutblank: | and it says i need an HDTV STB for the hd channels |
| [03:03:13] | pushpop: | im on fios atm |
| [03:03:14] | aboutblank: | MD, USA |
| [03:03:19] | pushpop: | cool |
| [03:03:23] | pushpop: | NY here |
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| [03:03:32] | aboutblank: | nice, so you watch the hdtv then push? |
| [03:03:35] | pushpop: | I run myth tv using firewire |
| [03:03:39] | pushpop: | yea |
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| [03:03:57] | aboutblank: | what resolution do you record at? |
| [03:04:14] | aboutblank: | sorry i'm gonna have to bombard you with questions. can you give me the make/model of the STB? |
| [03:04:15] | pushpop: | what ever the hd broadcast resolution is |
| [03:04:17] | pushpop: | it varies |
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| [03:04:38] | pushpop: | Scientific Atlanticc 4200 |
| [03:04:41] | aboutblank: | and does it come from the STB in mpeg2, or do you have to software encode it? |
| [03:04:43] | pushpop: | I use cablevision for my tv |
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| [03:04:55] | pushpop: | because fios doesnt offer msg |
| [03:05:10] | pushpop: | i wont get my ranger hockey games with fios |
| [03:05:10] | aboutblank: | msg? |
| [03:05:24] | pushpop: | madison square garden channel |
| [03:05:37] | aboutblank: | you pay for two cable services? |
| [03:05:44] | pushpop: | fios for internet |
| [03:05:46] | pushpop: | cablevision for tv |
| [03:06:01] | aboutblank: | ohhh i thought you got the fios hdtv |
| [03:06:06] | pushpop: | no sorry |
| [03:06:09] | aboutblank: | so cablevision gave you that STB? |
| [03:06:14] | pushpop: | yes |
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| [03:06:18] | aboutblank: | alright |
| [03:06:34] | aboutblank: | so in your case, you couldn't use something like the hd 5500? |
| [03:06:43] | pushpop: | what is that |
| [03:06:46] | pushpop: | a tuner card? |
| [03:06:54] | aboutblank: | yes. |
| [03:07:03] | pushpop: | dont need it |
| [03:07:06] | pushpop: | firewire does that |
| [03:07:09] | aboutblank: | k. |
| [03:07:23] | pushpop: | video/sound/channel changing all done through firewire |
| [03:07:43] | kgbudz: | where are mysql settings kept |
| [03:08:01] | aboutblank: | see i don't have an HDTV.. but i'd love hd content on my computer.. so i'm not sure if i want to go dual pvr 150's or splurge for 1 pvr 150 and an hd 5500... or if that would even work. i have to call verizon :( |
| [03:08:25] | pushpop: | ya see if they offer firewire on there boxes |
| [03:08:34] | aboutblank: | yeah i'll have to find that out. |
| [03:08:34] | pushpop: | if so you dont need any tuners |
| [03:08:49] | aboutblank: | alright.. well thanks :) i gotta get going |
| [03:08:53] | pushpop: | spend the money on hd space cause you'll need it |
| [03:09:17] | aboutblank: | yeah see.. i'd like to only record SOME shows in HD. |
| [03:09:35] | pushpop: | i recorded a football game this past sunday in hd |
| [03:09:36] | aboutblank: | i have a lot of needs.. lol |
| [03:09:37] | pushpop: | 22GB |
| [03:09:39] | pushpop: | ;p; |
| [03:09:40] | pushpop: | lol |
| [03:09:44] | aboutblank: | for how long? |
| [03:09:50] | pushpop: | 3 hours 5 minutes |
| [03:10:04] | aboutblank: | pretty big. that's mpeg2? |
| [03:10:21] | pushpop: | ya |
| [03:11:37] | Klink: | how do you specify where mythweb looks for the mysql database? I have the mysql db sitting on another machine than my master backend. |
| [03:12:54] | Anduin: | Klink: Look at .htaccess |
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| [03:16:01] | Klink: | Anduin: Nice, thanks. |
| [03:16:02] | monkeyBox: | How do I override a single instance of a recording? I can't find an option for that anywhere in mythfrontend... |
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| [03:16:52] | monkeyBox: | For example, I'm in "upcoming recordings" and there's an episode that I've already seen, but it's set to record. How do I cancel that instance without cancelling the whole thing? |
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| [03:19:00] | kgbudz: | ok, lets see if i can get this upgrade working this time |
| [03:19:29] | kgbudz: | i just increased the tmp table buffer for mysql |
| [03:19:40] | aboutblank: | so here's what i'm thinking: i record shows at a high bitrate in mpeg2... then during the wee hours of the night, cron will kick in with ffmpeg to transcode the files to h.264 to save space. any comments? |
| [03:19:41] | kgbudz: | cause mythtv was altering a table with 7.5 million records |
| [03:19:57] | kgbudz: | aboutblank, mythtv transcodes for you |
| [03:20:08] | aboutblank: | but does it support h.264? |
| [03:20:11] | kgbudz: | your going to corrupt your recording my modifying it like that |
| [03:20:22] | kgbudz: | export it |
| [03:20:25] | kgbudz: | then transcode |
| [03:20:39] | aboutblank: | i won't corrupt it by reencoding it |
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| [03:21:17] | aboutblank: | i don't want to record directly to h.264 because there's too much cpu overhead to do it in real time |
| [03:21:48] | kgbudz: | aboutblank, i recommend you do this |
| [03:21:54] | kgbudz: | get mythtv up and running |
| [03:21:57] | kgbudz: | and play around with it |
| [03:22:02] | kgbudz: | thats it. |
| [03:22:05] | aboutblank: | lol :) |
| [03:22:11] | aboutblank: | i know, i ask way too many questions |
| [03:22:28] | ShockValue: | anyone know if the input+output pin order matters for a voltage regulator? |
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| [03:25:58] | k-man: | ShockValue, yes it does matter |
| [03:26:19] | k-man: | ShockValue, and its very specific for each particular regulator and the particular package it is in |
| [03:26:26] | k-man: | be careful |
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| [03:31:52] | ShockValue: | yeah, i just spent 15 minutes getting it figured out.. i HOPE i got it right :) |
| [03:32:06] | ShockValue: | diodes and resistors dont matter tho, right? |
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| [03:47:01] | briand: | ShockValue: that's only true after you've reverse-biased the diodes... then, there's no difference. |
| [03:47:41] | mkrufky: | is there a public log of this channel hosted anywhere? |
| [03:47:51] | briand: | probably. read the topic. |
| [03:48:09] | mkrufky: | heh |
| [03:48:15] | ** mkrufky was a dumbass ** | |
| [03:48:20] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [03:53:45] | DukeMeador: | Hi guys – I have the following problem: upgraded to 0.20 and when watching HDTV I get "NVP: prebuffering pause" and video stutters. |
| [03:55:25] | mkrufky: | DukeMeador: by any chance, are you using ATrpms? |
| [03:55:34] | DukeMeador: | Sure am |
| [03:55:54] | mkrufky: | update again right now — i had a very similar problem yesterday and it's fixed now |
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| [03:56:12] | mkrufky: | .... another sympton is inverted colors of the movie previews |
| [03:56:13] | DukeMeador: | yum update mythtv-suite |
| [03:56:28] | DukeMeador: | ? |
| [03:56:39] | mkrufky: | i was told that the package was build without MMX support, and that causes the problem |
| [03:56:44] | kieran491: | would any one know what drivers i would need to have installed for a TwinhanDTV Mini Ter? |
| [03:57:00] | mkrufky: | kieran491: is it a pci card? |
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| [03:57:10] | kieran491: | yes |
| [03:57:42] | mkrufky: | the name of the card doesnt sound familiar, but most of the twinhan cards are supported by the dvb-bt8xx driver |
| [03:57:55] | DukeMeador: | mkrufky: okay... doing a "yum upgrade" seems to be working... |
| [03:57:56] | mkrufky: | there is one twinhad card supported by cx88-dvb |
| [03:58:12] | DukeMeador: | (downloading latest) |
| [03:58:13] | kieran491: | hmm |
| [03:58:18] | mkrufky: | and all the new dvb-s2 stuff is still being worked on, but I can point you to a test repo is that's what you're looking for |
| [03:58:23] | mkrufky: | s/is/if |
| [03:58:38] | mkrufky: | DukeMeador: it found newer versions of mythtv stuff? |
| [03:58:54] | kieran491: | because i am setting up my kernel and i am not using loadable module support so i just need to know what i need to select in DVB ;ost |
| [03:59:13] | mkrufky: | oh |
| [03:59:28] | mkrufky: | kieran491: what modulation type does the card support? |
| [03:59:45] | kieran491: | ehh? |
| [04:00:02] | mkrufky: | dvb-t, dvb-s, dvb-s2 ? |
| [04:00:06] | kieran491: | umm |
| [04:00:13] | kieran491: | its not any saterlite one so |
| [04:00:13] | kieran491: | t |
| [04:00:24] | mkrufky: | then take my advice — compile in loadable module support |
| [04:00:38] | kieran491: | really slow computer |
| [04:00:48] | mkrufky: | you dont seem to be sure, do you REALLY want to end up compiling this kernel 20 times until it works? |
| [04:01:06] | kieran491: | hmmm |
| [04:01:14] | mkrufky: | modules are a beautiful thing |
| [04:01:44] | kieran491: | they slow down the computer a heap |
| [04:04:05] | mkrufky: | compile a modular kernel first, so you can do your testing and figure out what you need, then later after everything works, then build a new one static |
| [04:04:35] | mkrufky: | wait.... why dont you just figure out what driver is the right one in the kernel that you're booted into now? |
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| [04:05:03] | mkrufky: | can you take a look on the card and tell me what chips are on it? |
| [04:05:17] | mkrufky: | kieran491: also, i think we're off-topic... wanna meet me in #linuxtv ? |
| [04:05:18] | kieran491: | umm |
| [04:05:23] | kieran491: | ok |
| [04:07:24] | DukeMeador: | mkrufky: re-download fixed stuttering problem... now I have tearing issue — using nvidia 8762 which I have read many people recommend instead of 8774. What do you guys recommend? |
| [04:07:45] | mkrufky: | what is tearing? |
| [04:08:03] | mkrufky: | im also using 8762 with no trouble |
| [04:08:40] | DukeMeador: | during scenes of moderate to fast motion, I see blocky line artifacts which most people refer to as tearing. |
| [04:08:51] | DukeMeador: | XvMC? |
| [04:09:22] | DukeMeador: | I am not using XvMC accel because I just tried it and it introduces NVP prebuffering pauses |
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| [04:10:45] | mortal5: | has anyone here used ffmpeg recently? |
| [04:10:56] | mkrufky: | DukeMeador: im using libmpeg2 |
| [04:11:13] | mortal5: | I'm getting "codec not supported" with everything |
| [04:11:30] | DukeMeador: | I am using "standard"... I will try libmpeg2 – but I have a Intel processor. |
| [04:11:31] | mortal5: | and I'm using instructions straight off the site |
| [04:11:50] | mkrufky: | standard is ffmpeg .... it's probably better for you, but cant hurt to try other things anyway |
| [04:12:30] | mortal5: | I'm trying to use ffmpeg on ubuntu, but it's no dice |
| [04:12:35] | mortal5: | I think the build is bad |
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| [04:13:37] | DukeMeador: | I tried the libmpeg2 and I get the same tearing artifacts only during moderate motion. |
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| [04:14:23] | DukeMeador: | mortal5: where does ubuntu get the myth packages from? |
| [04:14:24] | mortal5: | DukeMeador, I see that in the standard ivtv output myself |
| [04:14:41] | mortal5: | DukeMeador, the myth packages in ubuntu are broken |
| [04:15:00] | mortal5: | they're old packages that don't work with the new mysql server they have |
| [04:15:21] | DukeMeador: | I am not using ivtv output — going direct to nvidia accell card |
| [04:16:00] | mortal5: | ? |
| [04:16:20] | DukeMeador: | hum... what mysql errors do you get? |
| [04:16:26] | mortal5: | DukeMeador, I just cat the stuff directly off /dev/video0 |
| [04:16:50] | mortal5: | DukeMeador, mostly I can't access and configure the db during the install |
| [04:17:00] | mortal5: | following the steps provided in the howtos |
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| [04:17:35] | DukeMeador: | I guess that would really be your input stream... thats where you get the video from... I am getting my video from firewire port |
| [04:18:39] | DukeMeador: | so you can get video stream from /dev/video0? |
| [04:18:58] | mortal5: | yes, but i have a pvr 250 |
| [04:19:08] | DukeMeador: | i.e. cat /dev/video0 | mplayer - |
| [04:19:20] | DukeMeador: | thats fine... |
| [04:19:33] | robbins876: | .20 got released? looks like my yum is trying to update it |
| [04:19:41] | robbins876: | you leave town for a couple days and come back to .20? |
| [04:19:47] | DukeMeador: | from which repo? |
| [04:20:00] | mortal5: | i prefer mplayer -cache 16000 /dev/video0 |
| [04:20:25] | DukeMeador: | mortal5: sure... but you get a video stream? |
| [04:20:35] | mortal5: | yup |
| [04:20:37] | robbins876: | uhhh.... let me check |
| [04:20:40] | DukeMeador: | as in, you get a tv program or such? |
| [04:20:46] | DukeMeador: | ookay |
| [04:20:53] | mortal5: | as in, i watch tv |
| [04:20:58] | mortal5: | and I can record it |
| [04:21:12] | DukeMeador: | haha... what was your problem then? |
| [04:21:18] | robbins876: | fedora extras |
| [04:21:39] | robbins876: | the update won't mess up my current install will it? |
| [04:21:57] | mortal5: | DukeMeador, I can't use ffmpeg |
| [04:22:54] | mortal5: | I want to use that to encode the mpeg2 down to a better codec |
| [04:23:17] | DukeMeador: | robbins876: you always run the risk of hosing your working setup... I just updated and am working thru some display/tearing issues right now. |
| [04:23:47] | robbins876: | that's lame |
| [04:24:36] | DukeMeador: | mortal5: you can run a job on a recording |
| [04:24:58] | mortal5: | DukeMeador, I don't use ffmpeg |
| [04:25:00] | mortal5: | err |
| [04:25:06] | mortal5: | I don't use mythtv |
| [04:25:11] | mortal5: | couldn't install it |
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| [04:25:39] | DukeMeador: | robbins876: it mostly works for me... a couple of minor issues from my point of view |
| [04:25:57] | mortal5: | ffmpeg -i test.mpg -vcodec mpeg4 -b 2000 -acodec mp3 -ab 128 -f avi -deinterlace test.avi |
| [04:25:57] | word: | Umm..all my recordings post .20 upgrade have no seek table o.O |
| [04:25:59] | sigger_: | there a command line prog to tell me some characteristics of a video file. e.g. prog /path/file would tell me the resolution, fps, audio stuff |
| [04:26:04] | mortal5: | that doesn't work |
| [04:26:09] | robbins876: | and there's a new kernel that i'm getting right now |
| [04:26:10] | ShockValue: | hrm |
| [04:26:17] | robbins876: | lots of updates in the last couple of days, i guess |
| [04:26:20] | ShockValue: | turns out i kind of suck at this electronics/soldering thing |
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| [04:26:31] | ShockValue: | im havin a heck of a time figurin out what to connect to what |
| [04:26:42] | word: | well |
| [04:26:48] | robbins876: | put it in the microwave and let it sort itself out |
| [04:26:51] | GreyFoxx: | sigger: you can use mplayer to do that, or transcodes tcprobe command |
| [04:27:07] | ShockValue: | yeah, i could do that.. but it wont get me a working remote control |
| [04:27:14] | word: | ShockValue: just make sure you unplug it first and the trial and make sure you have lots of extra solder :P |
| [04:27:17] | ** sigger_ goes to man mplayer. thx GreyFoxx ** | |
| [04:27:19] | robbins876: | what remote are you using? |
| [04:27:34] | word: | bleh |
| [04:27:36] | word: | first and make sure* |
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| [04:27:54] | GreyFoxx: | sigger: It's something like mplayer -identify file , byt the man page should give you the info |
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| [04:28:18] | ShockValue: | i was trying to follow a howto, but i think maybe the schematic would help me more |
| [04:28:36] | sigger_: | ShockValue: I've been struggling with a new USB IR receiver for a day or two now. can't get it to work, so gonna suck it up and get a zapstream or dvico receiver/remote |
| [04:28:45] | difeta: | I'm trying to compile from source here and the configure script is saying that alsa support is not going to be compiled. How can I enable this? |
| [04:28:46] | DukeMeador: | mortal5: then I dont see why you couldnt use ffmpeg if you can install it... |
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| [04:29:10] | robbins876: | i had lots of problems with my remote.Ii have a friend that had a MCE remote and reciever he wasn't using |
| [04:29:14] | robbins876: | it works great and was easy to set up |
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| [04:29:28] | mortal5: | feld? |
| [04:29:36] | feld: | Cardoe: is there a bad digest for mythtv's svn1163.patch.bz2? |
| [04:29:37] | mortal5: | as in, feld from Americas army? |
| [04:29:45] | feld: | mortal5: the one and only |
| [04:29:57] | mortal5: | haha, small world |
| [04:30:03] | feld: | mortal5: indeed :D |
| [04:30:11] | mortal5: | I'm wing-_-nut in game and on the forums |
| [04:30:16] | feld: | ahhh yes |
| [04:30:24] | mortal5: | how ya been |
| [04:30:25] | feld: | i was banned on the forums in february, but just got unbanned |
| [04:30:30] | feld: | w00tage i guess... heh |
| [04:30:32] | feld: | i'm good |
| [04:30:34] | Cardoe: | yeah |
| [04:30:39] | mortal5: | lol, how'd you get banned? |
| [04:30:42] | Cardoe: | feld: I forgot to commit the manifest |
| [04:30:45] | Cardoe: | I just recently did it |
| [04:30:51] | feld: | Cardoe: is the file wrong or do I rehash it |
| [04:31:24] | feld: | mortal5: i got banned because DarkCentry was a troll |
| [04:31:34] | feld: | and he's gone, so i asked to be unbanned, and they did. |
| [04:32:03] | feld: | !!! Got: 322f8f42bb2a9c4e68bc58d9d4df8637 |
| [04:32:05] | feld: | !!! Expected: 2eef39eae35f622c72e529e7270a6eee |
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| [04:32:34] | feld: | can you provide the correct hash for me Cardoe ? I will be upgrading very soon and I'll let you know if it goes off without a hitch. |
| [04:33:06] | Cardoe: | emerge --digest mythtv |
| [04:33:18] | Cardoe: | or if you wait a little bit and sync again |
| [04:33:41] | feld: | nah i dont want to re-sync so soon. it's crude to the servers. |
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| [04:45:51] | ShockValue: | anyone else get to this website? http://lnx.manoweb.com |
| [04:46:03] | ShockValue: | magically went down while i was in the middle of working on the project there :( |
| [04:46:45] | feld: | ShockValue: negative, i am not contacting them |
| [04:47:09] | ShockValue: | what are the freakin chances of that?! |
| [04:47:35] | ShockValue: | site has been there for years, and im halfway through the project with my soldering iron, and it goes down :) |
| [04:50:35] | ShockValue: | anyone know where konq keeps its cache data? wonder if i can pull it from there |
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| [04:51:10] | mkrufky: | ShockValue: try google |
| [04:51:21] | mkrufky: | it has many many many websites cached |
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| [04:56:42] | feld: | ShockValue: it's in .kde/somewherehere |
| [05:02:17] | word: | theres an internet archive site |
| [05:02:20] | word: | archive.org i think.. |
| [05:02:53] | kury]: | once I have the mythtv backend setup and running... how do I add videos' that I've d/led into the myth db's? |
| [05:03:22] | kury]: | once I have the mythtv backend & frontend setup and running... how do I add videos' that I've d/led into the myth db's? |
| [05:04:40] | word: | um |
| [05:04:49] | word: | mythvideo..you can't add them to the recordings |
| [05:04:52] | tank-man: | setup mythvideo plugin |
| [05:05:24] | word: | ShockValue: ah archive.org no luck there...all it has on that site is under construction |
| [05:05:42] | ShockValue: | yeah i was just checkin |
| [05:05:54] | ShockValue: | well, i guess ill unplug the iron.. hope they're back up tomorrow |
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| [05:07:03] | ShockValue: | anyone have any info on the gentoo ebuild for .20? it's still hard-masked. (and the masked one doesnt work) |
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| [05:15:31] | sigger_: | can someone tell me what to call this so I can search for solution: on certain avi files (eg. DX50 format; others are fine) I get a black and white-ish picture with light red and green diagonal stripish things. anyone?!?! |
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| [05:24:03] | kury]: | ok I have mythvideo.. now how/where do I import my video files? |
| [05:25:21] | sigger_: | there's a dir you specify in setup |
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| [05:26:31] | sigger_: | I believe it Utils/setup, setup, Media Settings, Videos, General |
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| [05:39:56] | feld: | Cardoe: i cant compile mythdvd |
| [05:40:02] | feld: | get a funky error |
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| [05:42:37] | swim: | hi folks, can I install just the remote for my pvr-150 so I can use it with gnome in general? |
| [05:44:22] | regicide666: | yes |
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| [05:51:15] | Klink: | How do you lose an encoder from your db? |
| [05:53:43] | Klink: | at 2:30 today I had a pvr 350 and a pvr 250 in my database...now I have lost the pvr 250 |
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| [06:10:56] | sphing: | are there any projects (myth or other) to use the xbox360 as an extender? |
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| [06:17:43] | feld: | nm Cardoe im an idiot. :) your ebuilds work perfect |
| [06:17:58] | feld: | I have not had to do anything, i have my recordings, videos, weather, dvds play |
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| [06:19:41] | sphing: | feld: is the ebuild in portagE? |
| [06:20:44] | feld: | sphing: hardmasked, but it works perfect |
| [06:21:34] | feld: | Cardoe: mythweb also works perfectly |
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| [06:23:46] | sphing: | how do you emerge a hardmask? |
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| [06:26:52] | feld: | sphing: put the ebuild info in /etc/portage/package.unmask and package.keywords |
| [06:27:04] | feld: | check the gentoo portage guide... youll figure it out. |
| [06:27:09] | feld: | i gotta get some sleep... |
| [06:27:41] | sphing: | ah.. unmask.. I was doing .mask |
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| [07:18:25] | ShockValue: | for LIRC, i dont need to compile anyting special in my kernel for it to work do i? |
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| [08:31:14] | ender224455: | what does it mean if I keep failing memtest 5 (and only the 5th test)? |
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| [08:33:41] | Anduin: | ender224455: I'm sure only good things |
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| [08:53:56] | Dagmar: | ender224455: That your ram is bad |
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| [09:30:11] | BeBraw: | does mythtv 0.20 work with mysql 5? |
| [09:31:03] | Juski: | yes |
| [09:32:30] | BeBraw: | thanks |
| [09:37:49] | dopez: | i mentioned it yesterday already (about getting zero byte recordings once in a while) but now i have also some logs, (backend with -v record,channel) but seems not to make sense to me, signal is locked, the backend says so and also the light on the device is on but it's not recording. http://pastebin.ca/171316 |
| [09:47:37] | dopez: | to compare with an earlier recording that was on the same channel, this one did work : http://pastebin.ca/171327 and this one didn't : http://pastebin.ca/171326 |
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| [10:13:03] | Dibblah: | dopez: That's odd. Any patches applied locally and what version? |
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| [10:25:16] | dopez: | Dibblah: no patches, just 0.20 release |
| [10:26:17] | dopez: | but i have the feeling the hardware is the problem, once it was in that state and i quit the backend and start something like dvbtraffic or try a dvbscan -c (so it doesn't tune again) it gives timeouts and no data |
| [10:26:18] | Dibblah: | Is this at the start of the channel broadcast? |
| [10:26:27] | Dibblah: | 10:50... Guess not. |
| [10:26:30] | dopez: | no, channels is always on |
| [10:27:01] | Dibblah: | What happens if you rescan with a tune? |
| [10:28:07] | Dibblah: | BTW, the frontend will shut itsself down after 5 seconds of inactivity if you've not configured it otherwise. So if you're not manually retuning, this is expected behavior. |
| [10:29:27] | dopez: | rescan with a tune? how do you mean that? |
| [10:30:08] | dopez: | hm, to be honest i don't know much about how dvb works, i just though once it is tuned somewhere any app would be able to get the stream from the device without having to tune again? |
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| [10:31:42] | Juski: | have you selected 'on demand' use of the tuner? |
| [10:32:28] | dopez: | it is still on the default setting, i remember from an older version when i turn that feature on i had more trouble |
| [10:32:51] | Juski: | in advanced options within the tuner card setup in mythtv-setup there's an option to enable only using tuners when they're needed. I imagine if that's enabled you could run into issues where it doesn't wake up quickly enough |
| [10:32:59] | Juski: | ah |
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| [10:33:14] | Juski: | double-check it's set to 'off' anyway |
| [10:33:39] | dopez: | doing so now |
| [10:34:26] | dopez: | i really get the feeling it's just the usb box that is crappy or so, because looking at the mailing list i seem to be the only one who has this (or at least i haven't seen any recent messages about it) |
| [10:35:29] | Dibblah: | Try setting the frontends not to power down. |
| [10:36:59] | Dibblah: | parm: dvb_shutdown_timeout:wait <shutdown_timeout> seconds after close() before suspending hardware (int) |
| [10:37:06] | Dibblah: | For dvb_core... |
| [10:37:49] | dopez: | shutdown timeout set to 0 |
| [10:38:03] | Dibblah: | Yeah. |
| [10:38:25] | Dibblah: | You also can't unload dvb_core, if I remember right. |
| [10:38:36] | Dibblah: | So, for once, it needs a box reboot under Linux :) |
| [10:39:11] | dopez: | hm, works for me :) |
| [10:39:38] | dopez: | running latest dvb hg (as i hoped this issue might have been solved there) |
| [10:40:50] | Dibblah: | Hmmm... Okay. That may also explain some of my issues. It appears I haven't had that set recently :) |
| [10:41:33] | dopez: | alright i'll leave that setting in there, problem is that i cannot really trigger it so easy, it's really only one in 10 recordings that fails |
| [10:42:01] | Dibblah: | Yup. |
| [10:42:44] | dopez: | but thanks for the help, i'll leave it running so for a few days and see what happens |
| [10:50:51] | fish: | re |
| [10:51:06] | Juski: | see USB is baaad, mkay.... |
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| [11:01:30] | dopez: | i'd love to have a pci card that has 2 dvb-t tuners on it and is half height, but i haven't seen one yet |
| [11:01:53] | LLyric: | is the dvico dual dvb-t too tall? |
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| [11:02:20] | LLyric: | Looks half height to me |
| [11:02:24] | LLyric: | http://fusionhdtv.co.kr/ENG/Products/DualDigital.aspx |
| [11:02:55] | LLyric: | It comes with two backplanes, iirc |
| [11:03:27] | ** LLyric looks in the box. Yeah, it does ** | |
| [11:04:12] | Merlin83b: | Oh, it's the dirty PCI/USB combination one. |
| [11:04:14] | BeBraw: | can anyone recommend 2 dvd-t tuner in which dvb subtitles work to use with mythtv? |
| [11:04:21] | BeBraw: | *dvb |
| [11:04:40] | Paladine: | pvr150 is here :) |
| [11:04:45] | Paladine: | brb need to power down to fit it |
| [11:04:45] | LLyric: | BeBraw: the card we're talking about, the dvb subtitles work fine |
| [11:05:02] | BeBraw: | LLyric: oh. nice |
| [11:05:10] | LLyric: | With myth 0.20 |
| [11:05:16] | LLyric: | I don't recall seeing it work before that |
| [11:06:03] | Merlin83b: | Worked in 0.19 |
| [11:06:10] | ** LLyric never looked :) ** | |
| [11:06:19] | LLyric: | But now I see an icon when a recording has it |
| [11:08:46] | dopez: | LLyric: looks half height indeed, thanks i'll take a look for it |
| [11:09:09] | ** LLyric has one here, mine came with the half-height bracket for the back ** | |
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| [11:11:58] | dopez: | sounds interesting indeed, i already wanted a second tuner but couldn't really find something 'good' enough |
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| [11:12:10] | Merlin83b: | BeBraw: subtitles are a function of the stream, not the card. Any DVB-T card will behave the same way. |
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| [11:13:21] | BeBraw: | Merlin83b: okay. so basically any card that has decent software should work |
| [11:13:39] | Merlin83b: | If you're using MythTV, any card (so long as it runs under linux) will work fine. |
| [11:13:59] | Merlin83b: | If you're not using MythTV, why are you here? |
| [11:14:10] | ** BeBraw is compiling mythtv ** | |
| [11:14:29] | Merlin83b: | Then any card that works under linux will be fine – the software you're referring to is MythTV :-) |
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| [11:31:04] | paladine: | now for the joy that is setting up pvr150 in linux |
| [11:31:54] | Ruleke: | easy :p |
| [11:32:04] | paladine: | just pulling up a howto now |
| [11:33:47] | paladine: | gotta install ivtv and update firmware right? |
| [11:37:06] | paladine: | hmmm latest release of ivtv says 2.6.17 kernel only, I presume that mean 2.6.17+ only? since I have 2.6.26 |
| [11:37:57] | Ruleke: | no you don't |
| [11:38:06] | Ruleke: | there is no 2.6.26 |
| [11:38:22] | Ruleke: | look again |
| [11:38:43] | paladine: | sorry 2.6.15.26 |
| [11:39:06] | Ruleke: | so the last version won't work with that :) |
| [11:39:06] | paladine: | so I need ivtv 0.4.6? |
| [11:42:51] | Ruleke: | I suppose yes |
| [11:42:55] | qu0zl: | yes you do paladine |
| [11:42:58] | Ruleke: | pray that you have a supported tuner ;) |
| [11:43:06] | paladine: | pvr150 |
| [11:43:11] | paladine: | but I am not using the tuner |
| [11:43:11] | qu0zl: | it'll be fine |
| [11:43:15] | paladine: | I am using svideo |
| [11:43:27] | qu0zl: | you're not using your pvr150 to record tv? |
| [11:43:31] | Ruleke: | ah should be ok then |
| [11:43:38] | paladine: | I will be using it to record yes |
| [11:43:43] | qu0zl: | that's the tuner he means |
| [11:43:45] | paladine: | but my tv comes in from a set top box |
| [11:43:49] | Ruleke: | quozl: some new tuners on the new 150s again :/ |
| [11:44:04] | qu0zl: | ahh paladine, i get you |
| [11:44:12] | paladine: | so I am using the external tuner on my stb and using svideo-in to the pvr150 |
| [11:44:23] | paladine: | omg I feel dizzy |
| [11:44:25] | Ruleke: | should be fine indeed |
| [11:44:32] | Ruleke: | eat something |
| [11:44:37] | paladine: | I just did |
| [11:44:46] | paladine: | but I am on meds today after putting my back out yesterday |
| [11:44:57] | paladine: | just took a diazepam |
| [11:45:04] | paladine: | god they are weird |
| [11:45:56] | Ruleke: | ah |
| [11:46:03] | Ruleke: | well that's a good dizzy then ;) |
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| [11:46:50] | paladine: | my body reacts very badly to drugs |
| [11:47:03] | paladine: | I very rarely take any form of medication, not even headache pills |
| [11:47:08] | Ruleke: | same |
| [11:47:19] | Ruleke: | though paracetamol can't do much harm |
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| [11:47:45] | paladine: | I am allergic to paracetamol |
| [11:48:05] | paladine: | doc has be on 60mg of codeine phosphate 4 times a day atm :/ |
| [11:48:18] | paladine: | blows me out totally |
| [11:48:40] | paladine: | k anyone know a good guide for setting up the pvr150 on ubuntu? |
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| [11:49:06] | paladine: | I already have mythtv installed so Ijust need to get the card setup |
| [11:50:09] | paladine: | (I was using a bt878 card previously, just got the pvr150 today) |
| [11:50:24] | BeBraw: | paladine: perhaps http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186747 ? |
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| [12:16:41] | paladine: | hmmm I don't have a /usr/lib/hotplug directory |
| [12:16:46] | paladine: | do I just create it? |
| [12:17:01] | halcyon: | you still using ubuntu? |
| [12:17:07] | paladine: | of course |
| [12:17:39] | halcyon: | hmm, can't remember where mine is.. this is for PVR firmware? |
| [12:17:46] | paladine: | yeah |
| [12:17:59] | halcyon: | what's the filename, I'll find mine |
| [12:18:33] | paladine: | vl4-cx2341x-dec.fw |
| [12:18:42] | paladine: | v4l sorry |
| [12:21:18] | halcyon: | I think it's in /lib/firmware/`uname -r` |
| [12:21:23] | paladine: | this ubuntu howto seems a little out of date |
| [12:21:35] | paladine: | I don't have any ROM or BIN files |
| [12:21:39] | paladine: | they are all .fw files |
| [12:21:47] | halcyon: | are you following ivtvdriver.org docs? |
| [12:22:00] | paladine: | no the ubuntu howto |
| [12:22:08] | paladine: | http://hyams.webhop.net/mythtv/myth_ubuntu.html |
| [12:22:26] | halcyon: | follow ivtvdriver's |
| [12:23:31] | halcyon: | I think the only thing not covered in ivtvdriver's docs is where to put the firmware. For ubuntu it is /lib/firmware/<your kernel version> |
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| [12:46:11] | paladine: | ok I think I have the card setup |
| [12:46:24] | paladine: | now how do I setup mythtv to use the svideo input instead of the tuner? |
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| [12:49:02] | halcyon: | mythtv-setup |
| [12:49:22] | halcyon: | set up your card and then connect the input to the source you want (cable or whatever) |
| [12:50:50] | paladine: | svideo 0 or svideo 1? |
| [12:51:16] | halcyon: | probably 0, but you may have to test it out... |
| [12:51:36] | halcyon: | you're almost there :D |
| [12:52:57] | halcyon: | haha I like mythweb's statistics screen: "39 days 1 hr 19 mins wasted" |
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| [12:54:29] | paladine: | the channel scan added a huge number of channels, I would have only expected 1 from svideo |
| [12:54:48] | halcyon: | what is svideo hooked up to? |
| [12:54:54] | paladine: | sky box |
| [12:55:06] | halcyon: | the huge number of channels is for sky box, not "svideo" |
| [12:55:29] | halcyon: | it doesn't actually scan svideo, it scans whatever source for channels you provide |
| [12:57:33] | paladine: | bwahahaha working |
| [12:57:39] | halcyon: | nice :D |
| [12:57:47] | paladine: | manthat is damn quality from svideo input |
| [12:58:20] | halcyon: | good/bad quality? |
| [12:58:29] | paladine: | damn fine I meant to say |
| [12:58:34] | halcyon: | oh, good :D |
| [12:59:09] | paladine: | and the audio issues from yesterday using the bttv card are gone too |
| [12:59:20] | paladine: | audio output on all 4 speakers |
| [12:59:38] | ** halcyon shivers, remembering bttv issues of his own ** | |
| [13:00:13] | paladine: | my bttv card had no audio input so I had to do audio through line in |
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| [13:00:46] | halcyon: | yeah, I had so many problems getting bttv audio working back in the day |
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| [13:03:25] | paladine: | man these meds are kicking my ass |
| [13:03:49] | halcyon: | did you sleep yet? :D |
| [13:04:05] | paladine: | yeah I finally went to bed about midnight last night |
| [13:05:21] | paladine: | but I didn't sleep a lot |
| [13:05:38] | paladine: | I got woken up about 2.30 this morning with back pain |
| [13:05:52] | paladine: | had to do an emergency call out for the dr |
| [13:06:53] | halcyon: | no good |
| [13:07:01] | pointer: | I'm still perusing the -users ML, but if anyone has recommendations on mythfrontends (other than Xbox; have one) I'd love to hear them |
| [13:07:06] | paladine: | I couln't even move til about 4am |
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| [13:08:06] | paladine: | so I am on diazepam and 60mg of Codeine Phosphate every 6 hours now |
| [13:08:57] | halcyon: | yikes yeah that'd do it |
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| [13:09:27] | paladine: | I feel like I have eaten 3lbs of weed |
| [13:10:03] | paladine: | so this will record in mpeg2 now then? |
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| [13:10:10] | Merlin83b: | pointer: Epia motherboards (even an M6000 apparently) work very well. |
| [13:10:19] | halcyon: | the pvrx50 will record mpeg2, yes |
| [13:10:34] | paladine: | what sort of quality in comparison to dvd? |
| [13:10:43] | paladine: | and what resolution will it record in? |
| [13:10:53] | Ruleke: | the one you set it to |
| [13:11:15] | halcyon: | I use 720x480, which is DVD resolution I'm pretty sure |
| [13:11:28] | paladine: | well I have my mythtv window at 800x600 atm is that the same as the recording resolution? |
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| [13:11:40] | Merlin83b: | You should really record at the native broadcast resolution. |
| [13:11:41] | halcyon: | no |
| [13:11:42] | Ruleke: | I use 720x576 which is pal |
| [13:11:50] | Merlin83b: | Outputting at that will make your picture look much better too. |
| [13:12:11] | halcyon: | you set the recording resolution in the recording profiles section of mythfrontend. |
| [13:12:22] | paladine: | ok I willgo have a look now :) |
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| [13:14:48] | stuarta: | afternoon all |
| [13:14:51] | halcyon: | hey |
| [13:15:28] | Merlin83b: | Hi stuarta. |
| [13:15:38] | Ruleke: | greetings |
| [13:15:46] | stuarta: | halucinations :) |
| [13:15:50] | pointer: | Merlin83b: any thoughts on the pundit line from asus? |
| [13:15:59] | Merlin83b: | pointer: Never used one :-) |
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| [13:17:32] | stuarta: | for sheer novelty value, i'm now running a profile build.... |
| [13:17:33] | paladine: | it was set to 400x400 |
| [13:17:44] | paladine: | so I changed them all to 720x576 |
| [13:17:54] | Ruleke: | yay |
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| [13:18:13] | Ruleke: | now just do output in that res too :) |
| [13:18:19] | paladine: | how do I do that? |
| [13:18:49] | Merlin83b: | stuarta: So you're about to make everything run faster? ;-) |
| [13:19:07] | stuarta: | have about 5 tickets to look into first :) |
| [13:19:18] | Merlin83b: | Heh |
| [13:19:21] | stuarta: | but the thought had crossed my mind... :) |
| [13:20:15] | paladine: | k got the output done too :) |
| [13:20:25] | Merlin83b: | I support the thought! |
| [13:21:41] | Morphar: | Hi all, does somebody know if the hauppauge HVR-1300 work with mythtv ? |
| [13:21:41] | stuarta: | got to work out what the heck finnish/norwegian cable is doing non standard (ie. lots) |
| [13:22:12] | stuarta: | not yet i believe. check in #linuxtv |
| [13:22:18] | paladine: | so I noticed in the recording profiles I can set the video bitrate (currently at 4500–6000) does the mpeg2 hardware on the pvr150 higher higher bitrates? |
| [13:22:21] | Merlin83b: | stuarta: Oh, joy. Having to rely on reports/logs etc. from users? |
| [13:22:36] | paladine: | s/higher/handle |
| [13:22:49] | stuarta: | Merlin83b: luckily 0.19 works, so I have to cross analyze what it was doing and reimplement it. |
| [13:22:57] | Merlin83b: | Ah, lucky indeed. |
| [13:23:14] | stuarta: | not so lucky. 0.20 is out with a regression for those users :( |
| [13:23:16] | qu0zl: | anybody use an integrated intel extreme graphics chipset for their mythtv display? I'm going to get a mini-itx pentium M board with one |
| [13:23:37] | opello: | paladine: iirc when reading over the stuff from the 150 i just got (my 500 didn't come with documentation) it supports up to 12mbit |
| [13:24:08] | Merlin83b: | stuarta: Could be worse, could have never worked! But yeah, regression is bad. |
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| [13:24:32] | stuarta: | might have to spend sunday deciphering it :( |
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| [13:27:16] | Merlin83b: | :-( |
| [13:27:16] | stuarta: | mmmm, mythbackend 0.0% cpu load.... |
| [13:27:25] | Merlin83b: | In good news, the extra memory for my box arrived today. |
| [13:27:44] | stuarta: | cool |
| [13:27:58] | Merlin83b: | Tomorrow we find out if that was all the problems I was having ;-) |
| [13:27:58] | paladine: | opella 12Mbit? thats damn fine, thats dvd quality |
| [13:28:40] | opello: | paladine: i record at 4–6 depending on my 'quality' selection, no complaints even that low — and the dvds i've burnt play fine even at those bitrates |
| [13:28:44] | paladine: | mind you would be pointless doing that with th skytv input, it only comes in at about 6Mbit |
| [13:28:46] | halcyon: | those are big files :D |
| [13:29:08] | opello: | ~1gb/hr :/ |
| [13:29:22] | paladine: | opello, yeah shouldn't be any issues with 4–6Mbit, most "shrunk" dvds are around 3–4Mbit |
| [13:29:28] | halcyon: | err I meant the 12Mbit |
| [13:29:35] | opello: | ahh |
| [13:30:02] | janneg: | stuarta: but without eit-scanning |
| [13:30:33] | stuarta: | janneg: it briefly popped up to 20% when a stream of events arrived. |
| [13:30:40] | paladine: | whats this 2006-09–15 14:30:26.076 NVP: Prebuffer wait timed out 10 times. |
| [13:30:49] | paladine: | my picture has paused on its own |
| [13:31:29] | Ruleke: | even with eit-scanning, cpu usage is low on my box |
| [13:31:40] | Ruleke: | p2–300 too .. so.. |
| [13:32:51] | paladine: | that was weird, my picture froze and I couldn't get it back |
| [13:33:04] | paladine: | had to hit escape to go back to the menu and then go back to watch tv |
| [13:33:23] | Morphar: | Which tv-tuner can you recommend for use with mythtv ? |
| [13:33:47] | Ruleke: | dvb or analog ? |
| [13:34:06] | seth|laptop: | anyone in here using an ir blaster? |
| [13:34:28] | seth|laptop: | serial irblaster |
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| [13:37:43] | Morphar: | both if possible, byt mostly analog.. |
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| [13:46:11] | paladine: | how comes when you watch livetv it records everything? |
| [13:47:07] | paladine: | the file from me watching for the past 30 minutes is like 550MB |
| [13:47:13] | paladine: | and growing |
| [13:47:13] | Merlin83b: | Sounds about right. |
| [13:47:55] | halcyon: | since .19 |
| [13:48:19] | paladine: | I must to remember to turn the tv off when I go to bed then |
| [13:48:28] | halcyon: | why? |
| [13:48:30] | paladine: | I normally just leave it on and turn the monitor off and the volume |
| [13:48:39] | halcyon: | livetv is expired before anything else |
| [13:49:23] | paladine: | its 24 hours from what I can see for livetv |
| [13:49:36] | halcyon: | it is, but if the drive is full it will expire livetv first |
| [13:49:37] | paladine: | 2006-09–15 14:38:21.541 Expiring Unknown from Thu Sep 14 14:24:02 2006, 204 MBytes, forced expire (LiveTV recording) |
| [13:50:07] | halcyon: | any livetv recording under like.. 2 minutes is considered "surfing" and expired almost immediately |
| [13:50:08] | paladine: | mind you I suppose the maximum it will hit is 24GB before the 24 hour period is up and it expires |
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| [13:51:00] | opello: | i thought someone said 8 hours earlier? |
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| [13:51:11] | halcyon: | 8 hours for what? |
| [13:51:26] | opello: | the maximum recording? it seemed odd |
| [13:51:49] | paladine: | I am seriously impress with the video quality |
| [13:52:10] | paladine: | much better than running a coax to the tuner |
| [13:52:24] | halcyon: | I don't know what you mean opello... the maximum recording length, like, per show? or how long livetv is kept? |
| [13:52:45] | opello: | <+xris> I think the max per file is 8 hours |
| [13:52:51] | Ruleke: | paladine: that doesn't make much sense :) |
| [13:53:02] | opello: | *shrug* |
| [13:53:07] | halcyon: | oh, that would be if there were no guide data for the channel |
| [13:53:08] | paladine: | Ruleke, using svideo |
| [13:53:14] | paladine: | instead of coax |
| [13:53:17] | halcyon: | otherwise, it breaks the file up into show-length files |
| [13:53:39] | opello: | ahh |
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| [13:53:47] | Kazan: | .20 is running smoothly thus far |
| [13:53:52] | opello: | and shows > 8 hrs are fully recordable? |
| [13:54:15] | halcyon: | I would think so... but haven't encountered a monster show like that :D |
| [13:54:31] | opello: | heh, or doing a manual timespan record |
| [13:54:48] | fryfrog: | sheesh, what show would be 8 hours long! |
| [13:54:56] | halcyon: | would that only apply to channels with no guide data, though? |
| [13:55:02] | Ruleke: | well I have some here in the EIT data... |
| [13:55:04] | halcyon: | like, a dummy channel for svideo input or something |
| [13:55:08] | opello: | arbitrary limits seem annoying :) |
| [13:55:24] | Ruleke: | one of them minor dvb channels where the channel is simply looping the few programs they make... |
| [13:55:29] | Ruleke: | shows as 1 show in EPG |
| [13:55:33] | fryfrog: | ahhhh |
| [13:55:33] | Ruleke: | :) |
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| [13:55:58] | halcyon: | yeah I'm not sure how that case is handled |
| [13:56:03] | Ruleke: | same at night on some channels with the news |
| [13:56:14] | halcyon: | I know there was discussion on -users though about a month ago |
| [13:56:14] | Ruleke: | "news loop" it says then |
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| [13:56:32] | paladine: | ok this is weird |
| [13:56:38] | paladine: | I swear I am hallucinating |
| [13:56:49] | Ruleke: | stop overdosing :P |
| [13:56:52] | halcyon: | you probably are with those drugs :D |
| [13:56:59] | paladine: | I keep seeing things out of the corner of my eye but when I look there is nothing there |
| [13:57:43] | stuarta: | deja vu |
| [13:57:46] | lykke: | Hi, I am trying to compile mythtv 0.20 on my Gentoo-box, from the source.tar.bz file from mythtv.org, but getting a lot of error's, I don't know if my system is set up right, or what i am doing wrong, can any help me (need it for my new touchscreen) |
| [13:57:56] | sigger: | paladine: is there something stuck to the side of your head? :-p |
| [13:57:56] | paladine: | hey that is pretty damn funky |
| [13:58:18] | paladine: | seems it detected the commercials and stopped recording |
| [13:58:30] | paladine: | the file isn't growing anymore |
| [13:58:43] | Ruleke: | heh that's not how it works iirc :) |
| [13:58:49] | halcyon: | did it start a new file, for the next half hour/hour? |
| [13:58:58] | opello: | lykke: there are masked ebuilds, maybe try them? |
| [13:59:03] | halcyon: | (this is stil LiveTV right?) |
| [13:59:26] | lykke: | opello: does give me errors too |
| [13:59:30] | paladine: | ah I was looking at the wrong file |
| [13:59:32] | paladine: | yeah livetv |
| [13:59:36] | fryfrog: | lykke: maybe you could pastebin the errors? does the emerge finish? |
| [13:59:49] | fryfrog: | lykke: oh, you aren't using ebuilds :) |
| [13:59:59] | fryfrog: | lykke: unmask myth and build with ebuilds instead |
| [14:00:04] | opello: | heh |
| [14:00:07] | paladine: | I may as well manually delete these nuv ones |
| [14:00:15] | lykke: | I allready tried the ebuild |
| [14:00:24] | lykke: | neither works |
| [14:00:31] | paladine: | oh I see it records for an hour then switches to a new file |
| [14:00:32] | fryfrog: | problem was? |
| [14:00:39] | fryfrog: | something about a patch file? |
| [14:00:40] | opello: | why not pastebin the errors from the emerge? |
| [14:00:49] | lykke: | opello ok |
| [14:01:07] | opello: | fryfrog: yeah cardoe mentioned the fix for that yesterday |
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| [14:01:38] | fryfrog: | opello: oh? i figured it out on my own, change "-rev" to "_svn" i think |
| [14:01:43] | fryfrog: | was that what he was talking about? |
| [14:01:45] | opello: | yeah, something like that |
| [14:01:47] | paladine: | and it syncs the 1 hour files to the clock, so that means for regular tv (not movies) you are likely to get the whole show in 1 file |
| [14:01:48] | halcyon: | paladine: it records for <length of show> and then switches to a new file |
| [14:01:57] | opello: | looks like he missed the 'pastebin' part |
| [14:02:07] | halcyon: | it goes by guide data for the channel you are on. |
| [14:02:18] | halcyon: | (like I was saying before :D) |
| [14:02:18] | paladine: | I don't have any guide data |
| [14:02:22] | paladine: | I am svideo in |
| [14:02:31] | halcyon: | so? |
| [14:02:34] | halcyon: | we went over this :D |
| [14:02:38] | Ruleke: | heh |
| [14:02:54] | paladine: | it sees the channel as unknown |
| [14:03:02] | halcyon: | didn't it "grab a whole bunch of channels". Oh, then that's weird :D |
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| [14:03:26] | opello: | lykke: rafb.net/paste :) |
| [14:03:27] | Ruleke: | he probably didn't link his source to the input |
| [14:03:44] | halcyon: | ah yeah, paladine check that :D |
| [14:03:46] | fryfrog: | http://tools.gallery2.org/pastebin/818 |
| [14:03:48] | lykke: | opello: iam back, was kicked off |
| [14:03:50] | fryfrog: | that is package.unmask |
| [14:03:52] | opello: | ahh |
| [14:04:03] | paladine: | I only have a connection between svideo out (on the stb) and svideo in (on the pvr150) |
| [14:04:07] | fryfrog: | lykke: was the problem with the ebuild an error about a patch? |
| [14:04:14] | opello: | lykke: that's a list of packages, not an error? |
| [14:04:17] | paladine: | and of course the audio |
| [14:04:24] | halcyon: | we're talking about mythtv-setup, not your hardware connections |
| [14:04:35] | Ruleke: | paladine: so, you can still ahev guide data and change channels even with the right setup :) |
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| [14:04:53] | paladine: | yeah I tried setting up lirc yesterday |
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| [14:05:05] | lykke: | fryfrog:no about some missing qt3 |
| [14:05:07] | fryfrog: | anyone have a favorite remote? |
| [14:05:10] | riddlebox: | hey has anyone ever tried a targus wireless remote with mythtv? |
| [14:05:19] | paladine: | managed to make my remote put numbers in the terminal when I press them, but couldn't seem to get it to do anything with myth even after setting up the files |
| [14:05:21] | fryfrog: | do you have qt3? |
| [14:05:36] | halcyon: | paladine: make sure you have set up #4. Input Connections, in mythtv-setup. That should get you your channel information. |
| [14:06:07] | lykke: | fryfrog:yes |
| [14:06:19] | Ruleke: | qt3-dev ? |
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| [14:06:32] | paladine: | then I need to setup another lirc for the blaster |
| [14:06:39] | opello: | Ruleke: it's gentoo |
| [14:06:40] | paladine: | I only did the input setup yesterday |
| [14:06:50] | Ruleke: | err ok... devel then.. Idunno :p |
| [14:07:05] | fryfrog: | can you pastebin the error you see from the 0.20 ebuilds? and make sure you are sync'd up |
| [14:07:11] | Ruleke: | oh it's not the guy that was compiling... |
| [14:07:16] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : -v jams | |
| [14:07:33] | Ruleke: | ah yes he is... it's not an emerge or whatever it's called |
| [14:07:37] | lykke: | fryfrog:will do |
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| [14:08:22] | gardengnome: | heya |
| [14:08:24] | Ruleke: | ola |
| [14:08:44] | paladine: | I like the way it does a png at the beginning of each recording |
| [14:09:18] | paladine: | hats off to the devs, they have done amazing work with the project |
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| [14:10:06] | fryfrog: | lykke: btw, you probably have some logs in... |
| [14:10:08] | fryfrog: | wtf? |
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| [14:10:45] | opello: | lykke: it says 'excess flood' like you're trying to paste it in the channel |
| [14:10:46] | lykke: | fryfrog: its in paste-bin now |
| [14:10:47] | fryfrog: | are you pasting stuff to channel lykke? |
| [14:10:51] | fryfrog: | what is the url? |
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| [14:11:39] | lykke: | no paste-bin |
| [14:11:45] | lykke: | channel paste-bin |
| [14:11:50] | fryfrog: | what? |
| [14:11:50] | Ruleke: | heh |
| [14:11:52] | fryfrog: | OHH |
| [14:11:56] | fryfrog: | no wonder you are flooding off |
| [14:12:01] | Ruleke: | yeah join it now and go read it lol |
| [14:12:11] | fryfrog: | http://tools.gallery2.org/pastebin/?sesame |
| [14:12:14] | halcyon: | hehe |
| [14:12:19] | janneg: | 16:12 -!- Topic for #mythtv-users: .:. Welcome to the official user-to-user support channel. .:. http://mythtv.org/ .:. Latest stable release: 0.20 .:. Please don't be a dumbass! Dammit! .:. Channel FAQ wiki at http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/wiki/ .:. MythTV Wiki http://mythtv.org/wiki/ .:. Use http://pastebin.ca/ .:. |
| [14:12:21] | fryfrog: | paste it to the web page |
| [14:12:27] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [14:12:30] | fryfrog: | http://pastebin.ca/ |
| [14:12:31] | fryfrog: | or that |
| [14:12:36] | fryfrog: | cause it looks like gallery2.org is down |
| [14:13:29] | lykke: | http://pastebin.ca/171549 <--- there sorry guys |
| [14:14:03] | fryfrog: | bah, just do what the thing says? |
| [14:14:30] | fryfrog: | echo "x11-libs/qt mysql opengl" >> /etc/portage/package.use |
| [14:14:34] | lykke: | qt is emerged with mysql opengl etc... |
| [14:14:46] | BeBraw: | which version of qt do you have? |
| [14:14:54] | fryfrog: | emerge -uDNav world |
| [14:14:59] | fryfrog: | let it grab the new use flags for qt |
| [14:15:18] | fryfrog: | some how i suspect the myth use flag check for qt is more accurate |
| [14:15:31] | fryfrog: | but try "emerge qt -pv" and see what the use flags say |
| [14:15:46] | fryfrog: | or "emerge =qt-3 -pv" |
| [14:16:16] | fryfrog: | emerge =qt-3* -pv |
| [14:16:20] | fryfrog: | oops, forgot the * :) |
| [14:16:38] | lykke: | http://pastebin.ca/171552 |
| [14:17:37] | fryfrog: | hi, that is qt4 :) |
| [14:17:54] | fryfrog: | do "emerge -va =qt-3*" |
| [14:18:22] | opello: | hadn't seen that syntax before |
| [14:18:30] | fryfrog: | what syntax? |
| [14:18:39] | fryfrog: | the pv? |
| [14:18:41] | fryfrog: | and va? |
| [14:18:49] | lykke: | http://pastebin.ca/171556 |
| [14:19:39] | fryfrog: | mysql* |
| [14:19:42] | lykke: | Don't know if the mysql* means that qt3 wasent build with mysql |
| [14:19:43] | fryfrog: | see the green *? |
| [14:19:49] | fryfrog: | right, that is exactly what it means |
| [14:19:50] | lykke: | yes green |
| [14:19:54] | fryfrog: | so just say "y" |
| [14:19:57] | fryfrog: | and qt3 will recompile |
| [14:20:13] | opello: | fryfrog: qt-3* |
| [14:20:22] | fryfrog: | you can also use "emerge -uDNav world" to make sure all your use flags and items are compiled with the correct flags |
| [14:20:30] | lykke: | ok, then my mistake, was that only qt4 was build with mysql right ? |
| [14:20:31] | fryfrog: | opello: ah, the "=" tells it to look for a specific package |
| [14:20:37] | opello: | fryfrog: --newuse isn't good enough? |
| [14:20:49] | fryfrog: | lykke: right, so you probably added the mysql use flag after qt3 was compiled |
| [14:20:50] | opello: | fryfrog: right, i never tried a wildcard in there |
| [14:21:02] | fryfrog: | opello: sure, --newuse gets all the use flags |
| [14:21:15] | lykke: | yes your'e right fryfrog, that the thing |
| [14:21:18] | fryfrog: | opello: but -uDN (update, deep newuse) makes ure its *all* updated |
| [14:21:29] | opello: | right, i figured -N would have been sufficient |
| [14:21:33] | opello: | *shrug* :) |
| [14:21:41] | fryfrog: | opello: ah, the wildcard gets the latest of that series :) |
| [14:21:55] | opello: | cool |
| [14:22:04] | fryfrog: | opello: yeah, i guess -N is enough to get new use flags :) |
| [14:22:19] | opello: | then revdep-rebuild your problems away, heh |
| [14:22:20] | fryfrog: | opello: I just like to make sure the whole box is updated, not just use flags |
| [14:22:51] | opello: | makes sense |
| [14:23:19] | lykke: | fryfrog: I will try to only recompile qt3, as it will take several days to do the whole thing on my VIA 600Mhz card |
| [14:23:36] | fryfrog: | lykke: ahhh, slow :( |
| [14:23:57] | fryfrog: | lykke: before you do *anything* |
| [14:24:00] | fryfrog: | "emerge ccache" |
| [14:24:04] | lykke: | yes |
| [14:24:41] | fryfrog: | :) |
| [14:24:51] | fryfrog: | if you have another box, you *might* consider distcc |
| [14:25:00] | fryfrog: | but i never had much luck with it :( |
| [14:25:12] | lykke: | hehe... never tried |
| [14:25:25] | lykke: | have only this 600Mhz right now |
| [14:25:28] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [14:25:41] | fryfrog: | not trying to do HD i hope? |
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| [14:25:53] | fryfrog: | seems like SD playback on 600mhz might be iffy too :( |
| [14:25:59] | lykke: | fryfrog:have you tried the new mythtv 0.2 |
| [14:26:23] | opello: | fryfrog: geez, i'd bulid it all on another box, heh, even if i had to make packages |
| [14:26:34] | opello: | bulid* |
| [14:26:39] | fryfrog: | lykke: actually, i've compiled it and am ready to start installing it when i get home |
| [14:27:05] | lykke: | fryfrog:ok, i have to use it, with a touchscreen |
| [14:27:09] | fryfrog: | i gave up on mythtv about 6 months ago due to my annoyance at QAM and comcast |
| [14:27:18] | fryfrog: | neat, how does the touch screen hook up? |
| [14:27:23] | fryfrog: | is it a mouse? |
| [14:27:32] | lykke: | yes a mouse |
| [14:27:35] | fryfrog: | opello: I think I would too :) |
| [14:27:37] | fryfrog: | actually |
| [14:27:41] | fryfrog: | i wouldn't use gentoo on a 600mhz cpu |
| [14:27:48] | fryfrog: | what made you pick a source based distro? |
| [14:27:54] | opello: | fryfrog: i use it on my 350 k6, so ... heh |
| [14:27:58] | fryfrog: | Ubuntu, Fedora or something else would be *tons* faster :) |
| [14:28:11] | lykke: | that's no problem, runs fine with xfce+amarok |
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| [14:28:41] | lykke: | fryfrog:what make you think so ? |
| [14:29:00] | halcyon: | I think he's just referring to the compiling part. |
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| [14:29:57] | paladine: | this must be a nice bitrate cos the last 30 minutes is a 1GB file :) |
| [14:30:03] | fryfrog: | yeah, i'd rather just install a binary distro and not need 6 hours to compile X |
| [14:30:23] | lykke: | ahh ok, i don't have to watch it compiling ;) |
| [14:30:38] | paladine: | I need to figure out what is causing this |
| [14:30:40] | paladine: | 2006-09–15 15:30:01.039 Finished recording Unknown: channel 1061 |
| [14:30:40] | paladine: | 2006-09–15 15:30:02.240 NVP: prebuffering pause |
| [14:30:40] | paladine: | 2006-09–15 15:30:03.880 NVP: Prebuffer wait timed out 10 times. |
| [14:30:44] | paladine: | anyone got any ideas |
| [14:30:54] | lykke: | fryfrog:I have full-control with gentoo |
| [14:31:36] | word: | paladine: check your dmesg for anything concerning ivtv |
| [14:31:38] | fryfrog: | lykke: don't get me wrong, i use gentoo myself :) |
| [14:32:04] | paladine: | nothing |
| [14:32:06] | fryfrog: | lykke: i'm just saying, the compile time on a slow cpu makes it a tough choice :) |
| [14:32:16] | fryfrog: | lykke: especially if you plan on keeping it updated |
| [14:32:23] | lykke: | fryfrog:My box are only to use with 'mythmusic' 'mythgallery' for listning to music, not fore tv-watching |
| [14:32:24] | paladine: | just a bunch of these in dmesg |
| [14:32:25] | paladine: | [17190546.140000] nv_sata: Secondary device removed |
| [14:32:46] | word: | my opinion...but i don't think that's good |
| [14:33:29] | lykke: | fryfrog:will try to catch you later when i got mythtv installed... (maybe in a few day's) see ya' |
| [14:33:32] | halcyon: | I get that on my nforce box, works fine |
| [14:33:46] | fryfrog: | lykke: good luck :) |
| [14:33:53] | fryfrog: | lykke: ahh, no tv watching |
| [14:34:01] | fryfrog: | lykke: what screen are you using? |
| [14:34:02] | paladine: | halcyon, was that to me? |
| [14:34:20] | halcyon: | umm, mmore to word. Sorry, I need to get into the habit of addressing messages to people :D |
| [14:34:55] | lykke: | fryfrog:8" touchscreen noname |
| [14:35:48] | lykke: | fryfrog:dmesg tell's me it's a egalax touchscreen, it's a bitch to get working, but works fine when you figure it out |
| [14:36:20] | paladine: | here is the output from mythfrontend |
| [14:36:22] | paladine: | http://pastebin.ca/171574 |
| [14:36:51] | paladine: | line 2 iswhere I hit escape to restart after that prebuffer error |
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| [14:38:55] | lykke: | fryfrog: mythtv is the only 'media-center' which uses 'mouse-gestures' right now, excited to see how it works |
| [14:40:08] | lykke: | I have one last quistion, which are critical to me, that is, if mythtv is capable of playing .flac music files ? |
| [14:41:22] | paladine: | anyone got any ideas about those errors? |
| [14:41:35] | fryfrog: | btw, what are mouse gestures? |
| [14:41:45] | fryfrog: | i think mythmusic... |
| [14:42:14] | fryfrog: | [ebuild R ] media-plugins/mythmusic-0.20 USE="aac sdl -debug -fftw (-mmx)" 0 kB |
| [14:42:18] | fryfrog: | i don't see flac :( |
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| [14:42:56] | _mac: | Hi. Anyone remember my via xvmc problem? I solved it :) |
| [14:43:05] | fryfrog: | WOO WOO! |
| [14:43:12] | halcyon: | were you getting crashes? |
| [14:43:13] | fryfrog: | toothpaste and nails? |
| [14:43:23] | _mac: | It#s weird.. but it was the resolution that was setup in live tv recording profiles |
| [14:43:50] | paladine: | whats the realtime priority setting it is complaining about? |
| [14:43:59] | lykke: | fryfrog:can't remember what engine mythtv uses to play music? |
| [14:44:14] | _mac: | halcyon: mean me? |
| [14:44:23] | lykke: | fryfrog:it has it's own right |
| [14:44:26] | halcyon: | paladine: it's in the frontend (I think) setup. |
| [14:44:34] | halcyon: | _mac: yeah, you were getting segfaults right? |
| [14:44:44] | fryfrog: | lykke: i think it has its own |
| [14:44:50] | fryfrog: | lykke: i guess you'll find out :/ |
| [14:44:54] | _mac: | halcyon: Yeah, I got everything I can think of.. segfaults, and dozens of compiles |
| [14:45:04] | halcyon: | _mac: hehe, well it's fixed :D |
| [14:45:12] | _mac: | I solved it by reinstalling (duh, to solve the segfault.. something was REALLY messed up), and then I tried lowering the resolution and voila |
| [14:45:28] | paladine: | halcyon, whats it do? |
| [14:46:04] | halcyon: | paladine: it uses realtime priority to improve performance. It should work without it enabled, it's just a nag message :E |
| [14:46:08] | halcyon: | :D rather |
| [14:46:50] | sphing: | is there talk of using the 360 as an extender (myth or other)? |
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| [14:50:17] | halcyon: | sphing: not that I've heard :/ |
| [14:51:58] | paladine: | so no-one got any ideas why my picture decides to freeze? |
| [14:53:01] | halcyon: | paladine: is that with the prebuffer pauses |
| [14:53:04] | halcyon: | ? |
| [14:53:14] | paladine: | yeah |
| [14:54:11] | halcyon: | paladine: is that with XvMC or just normal? |
| [14:54:17] | GreyFoxx: | sphing: Does the 360 use upnp ? That might work |
| [14:54:29] | paladine: | halcyon, I am not sure what you mean? |
| [14:54:39] | GreyFoxx: | some other media extenders work via the upnp stuff (which I have never used) |
| [14:54:46] | _mac: | paladine: XvMC is a X windows mpeg 2 accelerator |
| [14:54:58] | halcyon: | paladine: oh, the pastebin you gave us had some error messages about XvMC (video output) |
| [14:55:20] | opello: | GreyFoxx: those rm4100s sure jumped in price |
| [14:55:27] | paladine: | that happens whenever I start to "Watch TV" |
| [14:55:57] | paladine: | the prebuffer freeze just happens randomly |
| [14:56:05] | paladine: | has done it 3 times now in the last 3 hours or so |
| [14:56:07] | _mac: | paladine: What is your mpeg2 renderer? |
| [14:56:13] | paladine: | but no obvious pattern to it |
| [14:56:24] | paladine: | in mythtv? |
| [14:56:28] | halcyon: | paladine: is that between shows.. err wait no guide data :/ |
| [14:56:53] | halcyon: | paladine: what video card? |
| [14:57:00] | paladine: | mac I have that set to default, do I need to set it to libmpeg2? |
| [14:57:01] | _mac: | Does someone have a link to a full .lircrc file for mythtv? |
| [14:57:14] | paladine: | I have dual nvidia 6600 GTs |
| [14:57:18] | _mac: | paladine: choose xvmc possibly |
| [14:57:21] | _mac: | standard, that is |
| [14:57:30] | halcyon: | paladine: do you know what version of the nvidia drivers? |
| [14:57:47] | paladine: | _mac, I am confused, the only option in mythtv was default or libmpeg2 I think |
| [14:57:59] | sphing: | GreyFoxx: I'm not sure, but it would be pretty damn nice to get it working |
| [14:58:00] | paladine: | halcyon, latest ones that just came out today |
| [14:58:22] | _mac: | paladine: If I am not mistaken, there is a xvmc driver for nvidia cards.. it will improve your mpeg2 playback performance |
| [14:58:53] | sphing: | GreyFoxx: apparently it does |
| [14:58:53] | sphing: | http://www.free60.org/oldwiki/Networking |
| [14:59:07] | paladine: | _mac, oh you mean for X, I thought you were talking about the settings in mythtv |
| [14:59:55] | _mac: | paladine: If you want to use xvmc in mythtv, you need to compile it in |
| [14:59:57] | _mac: | I just did that. |
| [15:00:04] | _mac: | and I am considered some sort of expert on it by now.. lol |
| [15:00:22] | _mac: | mythtv reads ~/.mythtv/lircrc, right ? |
| [15:00:51] | paladine: | _mac, compile it and change the driver in xorg.conf? |
| [15:00:53] | halcyon: | I think so _mac |
| [15:01:02] | halcyon: | paladine: only in Mythtv, not X |
| [15:01:10] | _mac: | paladine: No, the driver is okay. Just compile it in, and refer to the xvmc wiki page .. it helped me alot |
| [15:01:14] | _mac: | explains also what this is about |
| [15:01:18] | halcyon: | paladine: what CPU did you have, shouldn't be getting prebuffer pause... |
| [15:01:33] | paladine: | amd64 3700+ San Diego core |
| [15:01:48] | _mac: | What is the cpu usage of mythfrotnend when you play back mpeg2 files |
| [15:02:01] | halcyon: | yeah something else mighth be wrong, that's plenty of CPU |
| [15:02:13] | _mac: | yay my remote works |
| [15:02:24] | paladine: | _mac cpu for livetv is about 12% but thats with everything else running as well |
| [15:02:32] | _mac: | paladine: sounds very fine.. it is much worse on my barebone |
| [15:02:58] | paladine: | mythfrontend is using 8% cpu |
| [15:03:02] | _mac: | Awesome. |
| [15:03:04] | _mac: | Its weird then |
| [15:03:05] | halcyon: | paladine: what did you use again to install myth, compile? |
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| [15:03:14] | paladine: | built from source |
| [15:03:30] | halcyon: | what did you check out? (or just use tarballs?) |
| [15:03:44] | paladine: | checked out with svn for 0.20 |
| [15:03:52] | halcyon: | hmm, yeah that's weird :D |
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| [15:07:28] | paladine: | I don't understand why people take these diazepam to get high |
| [15:07:34] | paladine: | they make me feel like crap |
| [15:08:11] | paladine: | my brain can't decide whether I want to throw up or pass out |
| [15:08:18] | mkrufky: | take more |
| [15:08:23] | mkrufky: | :-P |
| [15:08:32] | mkrufky: | (dont) |
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| [15:13:49] | fryfrog: | I thought XFS was supposed to have very fast deletes of large files :( |
| [15:14:15] | seth|laptop: | if i find the config file for my dish network receiver, how do I incorporate that into irblaster |
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| [15:14:52] | halcyon: | I thought so too fryfrog |
| [15:15:02] | halcyon: | I'm using reiser, though :/ |
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| [15:19:01] | lykke: | fryfrog:according to http://flac.sourceforge.net/ – .flac files is supported by mythtv :) ... |
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| [15:25:31] | paladine: | halcyon, I will try changing from 3200x1200 to 2560x1024 resolution later and see if I still get the prebuffer issues |
| [15:26:46] | paladine: | halcyon, reiser's wife has disappeared, dunno if you read about it |
| [15:27:47] | fryfrog: | okay, this is weird |
| [15:28:01] | fryfrog: | if i do an "rm SOMEISO" it takes about 10–30 sec to return to prompt |
| [15:28:01] | paladine: | armed police raided his house and everything |
| [15:28:08] | paladine: | bit of controversy :) |
| [15:28:11] | fryfrog: | if it do "time rm SOMEISO" it is INSTANT |
| [15:28:15] | halcyon: | whoah no I didn't paladine |
| [15:28:39] | halcyon: | paladine: oh I didn't know you were running at such a high resolution! :D |
| [15:28:45] | paladine: | her car was found abandoned |
| [15:29:09] | paladine: | halcyon, dual monitors both running at 1600x1200 with xinerama enabled |
| [15:29:20] | halcyon: | yikes hehe |
| [15:29:37] | paladine: | 21" crt's |
| [15:29:44] | paladine: | each monitor on its own GPU |
| [15:29:45] | halcyon: | that'd be nice! |
| [15:30:09] | _mac: | how do I import channel icons into mythtv? |
| [15:30:13] | _mac: | I remember there was some automated process |
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| [15:32:31] | halcyon: | _mac: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-9.html#ss9.5 |
| [15:32:57] | _mac: | thanks |
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| [15:44:44] | mbirkis: | hi all! this is probably a stupid question, but i was reading the faq (linked in topic) and i have a bt878 tv-card wich works in tvTime. Do i need to compile some new drivers to get it to work with MythTV? |
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| [15:45:15] | Merlin83b: | No. |
| [15:45:28] | mbirkis: | Merlin83b, thank you! :) |
| [15:45:34] | Merlin83b: | Heh, no problem. |
| [15:46:05] | stuarta: | that was easy :) |
| [15:46:13] | Merlin83b: | Yeah, I like those kind of queries. |
| [15:50:04] | halcyon: | bah, tv_grab_na_icons not finding my zip code :D |
| [15:50:09] | mbirkis: | is it difficult getting MythTv to work? |
| [15:50:52] | tank-man: | no |
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| [15:51:12] | tank-man: | you got half of it done, capture card drivers setup |
| [15:51:46] | mbirkis: | wow! my card worked out of the box! really great! |
| [15:51:51] | harryman100: | Hi, does anyone know if it's possible to determine whether the backend is recording from the command line. I am writing a script which will only allow the comptuer to shut down if it's not in the middle of a recording... |
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| [15:52:49] | stuarta: | ahh, deadline scheduler was the one i was talking about yesterday... |
| [15:53:38] | stuarta: | even though I said cfq. cfq is good. deadline is better... |
| [15:53:44] | tank-man: | harryman100, i think you can have mythtv setup to shutdown after recordings (and wake up for recordings) |
| [15:55:01] | harryman100: | I don't want it to shut down after every recording, I just want to prevent it shutting down when there is a recording in process |
| [15:55:01] | fryfrog: | anyone use xfs and xfs_fsr? |
| [15:55:27] | fryfrog: | I think you can configure it pretty well |
| [15:55:40] | fryfrog: | ie, only shut down if there are no recordings cheduled for 2+ hours or something |
| [15:55:45] | harryman100: | tank-man, shutting down would still be manual, but only possible if recording isn't in process |
| [15:57:12] | hjohnson: | I'd go XFS, but alas, it doesn't allow volume shrinking |
| [15:58:10] | fryfrog: | bah, shrinking is for pussies :) |
| [15:58:14] | fryfrog: | you should always grow! |
| [15:58:37] | stuarta: | more recordings!!!! |
| [15:58:54] | halcyon: | MOER! |
| [15:58:57] | paladine: | people still shutdown their pcs? |
| [15:59:00] | hjohnson: | fryfrog: yeah, but when I rebalance my partitions on my raid, it's handy to be able to go both ways. |
| [15:59:01] | fryfrog: | I just found that XFS has xfs_fsr |
| [16:00:03] | paladine: | I always thought shutting down was just a myth (no pun intended) |
| [16:00:22] | paladine: | ahh here we go prebuffer issue just raised it's ugly head again |
| [16:01:02] | hjohnson: | paladine: I only shut down to add new hardware, re-organize the server room, or if the power goes out for more than 30 minutes |
| [16:01:17] | hjohnson: | all priase be to stupidly large UPSen! |
| [16:01:44] | paladine: | we don't suffer power issues here |
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| [16:02:46] | Beirdo: | who needs to shrink volumes anyways? |
| [16:03:12] | Beirdo: | just create a new smaller filesystem, move stuff over, delete the other logical volume (if using LVM of course) |
| [16:03:18] | hjohnson: | paladine: we only suffer them in the winter when some dipwad drives too fast in the snow and takes out a power pole. |
| [16:03:57] | hjohnson: | Beirdo: problem is that if you have taken up all the space on the given PV, then that doesn't work. |
| [16:04:05] | hjohnson: | you need to be able to shrink one volume in order to expand the other. |
| [16:04:43] | Beirdo: | hmmm. |
| [16:04:54] | paladine: | well it was exactly 90 minutes since the previous prebuffer error |
| [16:04:55] | Beirdo: | get a spare disk, add it in temporarily for transferring? |
| [16:04:58] | hjohnson: | (I'm running on a 1.2TB RAID 5. |
| [16:04:59] | paladine: | lets see how long til the next one |
| [16:05:15] | hjohnson: | Beirdo: not realistic when you're talking in LVs that are more than have a terabyte in size. :P |
| [16:05:27] | Beirdo: | or learn to use rm :) |
| [16:05:34] | hjohnson: | lol |
| [16:05:49] | Beirdo: | I feel yer pain, I do the same to myself |
| [16:05:53] | ** hjohnson notes that LVM's snapshot function is pretty cool, even though I don't actually use it. ** | |
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| [16:06:15] | Beirdo: | yeah, I don't either, but it is cool |
| [16:06:47] | Juski: | no more work til monday. no more packing either (yay!) |
| [16:06:53] | stuarta: | yah |
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| [16:07:01] | metalac: | hey guys i'm having an issue |
| [16:07:03] | Beirdo: | have a pint or two for me |
| [16:07:14] | metalac: | both my recorded stuff and DVDs have video/audio sync problems |
| [16:07:26] | Juski: | Beirdo: getting there already :) |
| [16:07:43] | stuarta: | where's my drinking buddy.... |
| [16:09:00] | Juski: | everybody else in my dept buggerred off at about 3pm. managers came over & spotted some boxes that were still languishing in a corner... so off to the skip they went |
| [16:09:18] | stuarta: | hehe |
| [16:09:28] | Juski: | rather than give machines away I had to put a hammer through the PCBs |
| [16:09:48] | stuarta: | ouch... |
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| [16:09:51] | Juski: | how tight is that? |
| [16:09:55] | hjohnson: | Juski: were they decent machines? |
| [16:10:06] | metalac: | anyway to fix my sync issues |
| [16:10:07] | Juski: | hjohnson: not out latest models but good gear |
| [16:10:15] | hjohnson: | Juski: sucky |
| [16:10:23] | Juski: | s/out/our |
| [16:10:30] | Juski: | beer's working already :) |
| [16:10:33] | paladine: | Juski, the government should make that illegal |
| [16:10:50] | Kazan: | make what illegal |
| [16:10:51] | paladine: | there are so many charities and underpriviledged people who could benefit from those |
| [16:11:01] | Juski: | they weren't PCs |
| [16:11:11] | paladine: | destroying technology because you no longer need it is disgraceful |
| [16:11:17] | Kazan: | ah indeed |
| [16:11:33] | paladine: | oh what machines were they? |
| [16:11:38] | Juski: | cctv dvrs |
| [16:11:58] | hjohnson: | Juski: could you at least salvage parts? |
| [16:12:03] | Juski: | hjohnson: nope |
| [16:12:20] | Juski: | anyway metalac without info about tuner types & what kind of encoding you use... |
| [16:12:29] | hjohnson: | ahh, point |
| [16:12:34] | metalac: | Juski: Pvr150 and mpeg2 hardware encoder |
| [16:12:46] | hjohnson: | i'd have sold 'em on ebay. :P |
| [16:12:53] | Juski: | audio sync issues with pvr cards? youch |
| [16:13:03] | Juski: | transcoded recordings? |
| [16:13:05] | mkrufky: | Juski: hello .... any luck? |
| [16:13:14] | Juski: | mkrufky: more or less just got home |
| [16:13:23] | mkrufky: | ah, ok |
| [16:13:33] | ** Juski boots the bongo box ** | |
| [16:13:33] | mkrufky: | my problem is fixed :-D |
| [16:13:51] | mkrufky: | bongo box — that's awesome |
| [16:13:59] | mkrufky: | hehehe... im gonna call mine that now, too |
| [16:14:01] | Juski: | other folks are calling ubuntu 'bunty' but I prefer umbongo |
| [16:14:11] | mkrufky: | u named it after the login audio? |
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| [16:14:14] | Juski: | Bunty.. it's for girls! |
| [16:14:17] | Merlin83b: | There are two Ubuntu CDs in my camper. |
| [16:14:17] | harryman100: | Hi, I'm trying to work out how the auto-commercial skip works, I run the detection on a program, and it says it found two breaks, and I have notify turned on (but not skip) but I don't see anything while watching the program |
| [16:14:38] | harryman100: | what should I be looking out for? |
| [16:14:47] | Merlin83b: | A friend gave them to me, knowing I use Linux for Myth and have enough experience to still use XP as my desktop OS :-) |
| [16:14:55] | Juski: | harryman100: go into edit recording & press Z to load the commercial flag list.. see where the cutpoints are |
| [16:15:06] | harryman100: | Juski, thanks |
| [16:15:18] | Juski: | then clear the cutlist after checking... |
| [16:15:37] | mkrufky: | Z loads the flag list into the cutpoints? |
| [16:15:45] | Juski: | I think it does... |
| [16:15:50] | mkrufky: | you may have just saved me many minutes from my life |
| [16:16:59] | Juski: | ah.. so that's why I can't VNC into the bongo box... it's running fack |
| [16:17:09] | Juski: | fsck, even |
| [16:17:31] | harryman100: | how do you delete the cutpoints? |
| [16:17:37] | halcyon: | heh, it's annoying I can't run vino without a video card in the machine.. made me install vncserver! |
| [16:17:38] | Juski: | c, I think |
| [16:18:28] | harryman100: | thanks |
| [16:19:48] | harryman100: | is there a button which skips a complete commerical when you are in it? |
| [16:20:22] | Juski: | check the mythtv.org docs for which key does what |
| [16:21:02] | Juski: | hmmm... this guy on the forums.. "My recordedmarkup table has 7.5 million records". and folks ask why mythtv needs mysql |
| [16:21:17] | halcyon: | harryman100: END or Z: skip to next commercial break marker |
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| [16:25:02] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:25:17] | Beirdo: | mine has right around 1M right now, and the PVR's been off since may |
| [16:25:24] | Beirdo: | but no, let's use flat files |
| [16:25:36] | halcyon: | text files, rock |
| [16:25:37] | Juski: | that guy has been running mythtv for over 3 years with nary a db cleanup |
| [16:26:12] | Juski: | complained mythweb is virtually unusable.. and I can believe that with over 800 recordings |
| [16:26:29] | metalac: | so I still can't figure out why i'm having sync issues with both DVDs and recorded stuff, is there anything I could try? Maybe use that "use video as timebase" option? |
| [16:26:30] | Juski: | mythtv == pvr != TV archiver |
| [16:27:28] | janneg: | my recordedmarkup has only 229, but recordedseek has 2.9 million |
| [16:27:38] | _mac: | I'm testing mytharchive.. is there also a way to queue the transcode jobs? It makes no sense to transcode on a slow barebone |
| [16:28:27] | Juski: | mkrufky: ahh yes now I remember where I got up to. I was trying to find a way to pass 'card=9' to cx88-blackbird |
| [16:28:43] | Juski: | _mac: not yet there ain't |
| [16:29:02] | _mac: | so I guess I'll run mythfrontend on a faster box |
| [16:29:08] | Beirdo: | janneg, yeah about 100k-150k rows per show for me |
| [16:29:24] | gardengnome: | Juski: on ubuntu? |
| [16:29:36] | Juski: | gardengnome: /etc/modules/options, I know |
| [16:29:44] | Juski: | but it's not working like that |
| [16:29:45] | gardengnome: | Juski: :) |
| [16:29:55] | gardengnome: | Juski: did you run the update-modules thingy? |
| [16:30:06] | Juski: | erm.. nope |
| [16:30:19] | paladine: | hmm only 29 minutes that time |
| [16:30:49] | paladine: | so there really is no pattern to this prebuffer problem |
| [16:31:40] | _mac: | Where does mythtv store the finished iso files for mytharchive? |
| [16:31:52] | Juski: | _mac: where you've told it to |
| [16:32:00] | _mac: | ah ok. Gotta look up. |
| [16:32:13] | janneg: | Beirdo: yeah keyframe indices |
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| [16:32:50] | halcyon: | paladine: is your OSD greyscale at all? |
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| [16:33:07] | paladine: | nope |
| [16:33:11] | halcyon: | hmm |
| [16:33:14] | janneg: | 2–2.5 entries for each second of recorded mpeg2 |
| [16:33:45] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [16:33:56] | Beirdo: | every 15 frames for me, every 12 for you :) |
| [16:34:17] | paladine: | halcyon, this is going to become very problematic when I am recording stuff |
| [16:34:28] | halcyon: | yeah – I'm searching through archives :D |
| [16:34:44] | paladine: | ty :) |
| [16:35:01] | mbirkis: | hello! what do i put in the "Capture Cards" section when i have a bt878 card? |
| [16:35:39] | gardengnome: | mbirkis: select the entry for v4l cards |
| [16:36:19] | _mac: | Juski: what happens when I "exit" the status screen? Will it create the iso in the background? |
| [16:36:56] | Juski: | _mac: should do |
| [16:37:01] | halcyon: | paladine: are you doing realtime commercial flagging? |
| [16:37:03] | _mac: | This is very cool. |
| [16:37:12] | Kazan: | [11:26] <Juski> mythtv == pvr != TV archiver <== the national library of wales would like to have a word with you |
| [16:37:30] | Juski: | Kazan: what? |
| [16:37:31] | gardengnome: | Kazan: they use mythtv for that job? |
| [16:37:32] | paladine: | not that I am aware of |
| [16:37:43] | Kazan: | yeah they were posting on the mailing list last year |
| [16:38:00] | Kazan: | they setup a bitch cluster of mythboxes with DVB-T cards archiving broadcast |
| [16:38:13] | Juski: | yeah but I bet they're pulling stuff off the boxes & storing it elsewhere |
| [16:38:16] | Kazan: | (bitch as in bitchin huge) |
| [16:38:31] | ** Juski has an idea in that case ** | |
| [16:38:39] | Kazan: | i think they may be using some large storage nodes |
| [16:39:00] | Juski: | even so.. that is one hell of a lot of recordings & recordedmarkup table entries |
| [16:39:02] | ** Kazan grumbles when he thinks about CableCARD and the fucking fascists @ cablelabs ** | |
| [16:39:28] | Kazan: | hopefully we'll be able to get some external cablecard 2.x box (2.x can tune 5 streams at once) that is approved that we can hook up (yeah... right) |
| [16:40:03] | Kazan: | soon as they get around to finially finishing the damn spec |
| [16:40:10] | Kazan: | gawd i hate the US cable industry! |
| [16:40:23] | paladine: | I have "Automatic Skip Commercials" turned off halcyon |
| [16:40:36] | fryfrog: | wow, cable card 2.0 can stream 5 at once? |
| [16:40:46] | metalac: | now i switched to 0.19 internal DVD player and i'm getting a lot of audio stuttering, even though the cpu usage is around 4% |
| [16:40:58] | halcyon: | paladine: cool. Do you have any deinterlacing selected? |
| [16:41:04] | paladine: | nope |
| [16:41:06] | halcyon: | (although with such low CPU it shouldn't matter) |
| [16:41:34] | GreyFoxx: | metalac: You might wanna try 0.20. The Internal player is much improved |
| [16:41:47] | metalac: | GreyFoxx: I guess |
| [16:41:49] | Kazan: | fryfrog: yup initial specs for CC2.0 is that it can tune 5 streams at once in one cable card |
| [16:41:53] | paladine: | I just switched from ffmpeg to libmpeg2 to see if that makes a difference |
| [16:41:55] | halcyon: | paladine, any way to check the signal on your sky box? |
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| [16:42:43] | halcyon: | I'm not finding much lately in the archives, unfortunately :D |
| [16:42:51] | paladine: | the only way to know if there is a signal problem to the skybox is when the picture starts to artifact |
| [16:42:56] | paladine: | having seen any of that yet |
| [16:42:57] | Kazan: | that's why tivo's really STUPID to have released their dual cable card 1.0x HDTV box |
| [16:43:56] | mbirkis: | is mythtv 0.20 cranky with composit and transparancy? my mouse pointer is barely showing sometimes |
| [16:44:04] | Juski: | if the welsh national tv & film archive pulled off that system it'd make one hell of a case study don't you think? ;-) |
| [16:44:23] | Kazan: | yeah.. i think they have it running |
| [16:44:29] | paladine: | my mouse pointer never shows in mythtv |
| [16:44:31] | Kazan: | dig in the archive for mythtv-users mailing list |
| [16:44:43] | GreyFoxx: | Juski: I remember there being a long thread about it a while back asking for recommendations on implementation. I saw the guy on teh list later mentioning that theya re doing it |
| [16:44:49] | halcyon: | paladine: it shouldn't |
| [16:44:55] | halcyon: | oh and I'm off to lunch :D |
| [16:44:56] | GreyFoxx: | I think it would be very interesting to get details on it |
| [16:47:02] | Juski: | GreyFoxx: I'm gonna get in touch with them |
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| [16:47:42] | fryfrog: | Kazan: i think i read that when 2.0 comes out, it could use a 2.0 card? |
| [16:47:52] | mr4l: | Anybody has the Avermeedia 1500 MCE video card working |
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| [16:48:47] | octan: | hi all |
| [16:48:52] | octan: | ii have a Q; |
| [16:49:10] | GreyFoxx: | Juski: Cool. If they are still doing it I'd love to know what challengies and solutions they came up with |
| [16:49:11] | octan: | why is mythtv running slower on my 64 bt system than in my 32? |
| [16:49:12] | Kazan: | fryfrog: but only with 1.0x feature set |
| [16:49:19] | paladine: | halcyon, what if I mount the second drive and tell use that for myth instead of the primary drive? |
| [16:49:27] | paladine: | the secon drive has nothing on it |
| [16:50:16] | paladine: | although both drives are sata so I don't think it will be i/o issues causing the prebuffer problem |
| [16:50:40] | octan: | it almoust take 1 min for it to start up on my 64 bit system.. on my 32 it starts up in 5 sec |
| [16:52:18] | ** Kazan wonders why arseholes have to vandalize wikipedia ** | |
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| [16:53:42] | _mac: | Hmm. Weird new problem |
| [16:53:51] | _mac: | I can't play back my recordings that I recorded with 0.19 |
| [16:54:05] | _mac: | Seems the resolution is too hihg for via xvmc, and I get my beloved black screen |
| [16:54:14] | _mac: | WTF? |
| [16:57:42] | mr4l: | Anybody has the Avermeedia 1500 MCE video card working |
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| [17:01:07] | bongalo: | which is the better driver, ivtv or bttv? |
| [17:01:24] | Blammo: | bongalo: depends on the card, imho |
| [17:02:10] | paladine: | halcyon, I found a pattern |
| [17:02:26] | bongalo: | lol. I've been unable to make the pvr500 work in my system, way too much static. So, Im looking for a different card which is PCI and support hardware encoding. |
| [17:02:48] | paladine: | http://pastebin.ca/171786 <- have a look at that halcyon |
| [17:03:03] | Kazan: | ivtv>bttv |
| [17:03:22] | Kazan: | bongalo: you have one of the newer ones don't you |
| [17:03:24] | Kazan: | with the nasty tuners |
| [17:03:31] | paladine: | seems to be doing it each time it starts a new file |
| [17:03:32] | Kazan: | they have a fix for that in the drivers |
| [17:03:43] | bongalo: | yes I do. the pvr500 is a dual tuner with one coax connection. |
| [17:04:21] | Kazan: | i have a pvr500 as well.. it's fine |
| [17:04:31] | Kazan: | they came out with a new one with... samsung tuners i think it was |
| [17:04:43] | Kazan: | there were quality problems with them for a while until the drivers were tweaked to work better with them |
| [17:05:09] | bongalo: | Kazan, I have tried many driver fixes and have followed the various wikis, I've been unable to get the card to work corrdctly in my fc4 2.6.17+ amd athlon 64 3k+ computer. |
| [17:05:25] | Kazan: | hrm |
| [17:05:27] | bongalo: | I believe I have the latest version of ivtv 0.7 |
| [17:05:30] | Kazan: | check your signal level |
| [17:05:37] | Kazan: | to have 2.6.17 you have to have .7 |
| [17:05:37] | paladine: | halcyon, but it doesn't do it everytime it starts a new file |
| [17:05:46] | bongalo: | yupper on both. |
| [17:06:19] | bongalo: | I have found various fixes and patches for 0.4, I've found nothing I would trust with 0.7. |
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| [17:06:51] | paladine: | this is totally weird |
| [17:07:11] | paladine: | futurama seems to be higher quality on my pc than it is on the tc |
| [17:07:13] | paladine: | tv |
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| [17:07:16] | bongalo: | it is my understanding that the pvr150 works perfectly under 2.6.17 w/ 0.17, but, I've a little weary about happauge now. |
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| [17:07:44] | Kazan: | it's just the new tunres |
| [17:07:46] | Kazan: | tuners* |
| [17:07:48] | bongalo: | ati doesnt seam the way to go either. |
| [17:08:01] | Kazan: | ATI is good.. except for no XvMC |
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| [17:08:08] | Led-Hed: | nvidia is making a tunner now I think |
| [17:08:36] | bongalo: | Im thinking that the 0.7 driver is just not up to speed on the new pvr500 tuner. So, do I wait or purchase a new/old pvr150? |
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| [17:08:56] | Kazan: | it's just a pvr500 issue |
| [17:09:03] | Kazan: | .7 incorporates all fixes from earlier branches |
| [17:09:05] | Led-Hed: | dont the 150 and 500 use the same chipset? |
| [17:09:08] | Kazan: | have you checked your signal level |
| [17:09:17] | Kazan: | led-hed: yes in the ivtv chip.. but it's not the ivtv chip that is the problem |
| [17:09:22] | Kazan: | it's the NTSC tuner chip |
| [17:09:26] | Led-Hed: | ahh |
| [17:09:39] | bongalo: | Kazan, yes, I've taken the cable from the pvr500 and connected it to my tv and it works perfectly. |
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| [17:09:56] | Kazan: | that doesn't mean you have enough signal |
| [17:10:02] | Kazan: | PVR500 = two tuners |
| [17:10:04] | Kazan: | TV = one tunre |
| [17:10:06] | Kazan: | tuner* |
| [17:10:25] | Kazan: | my cable works fine with my TV, but if i hook it up to my PVR500 without a booster i get static |
| [17:10:58] | bongalo: | All I can add is this, cablevison just ran a new cable to my house from the power splitter on the pool. I come off that cable via only one spliter. |
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| [17:11:15] | bongalo: | Kazan, hows the audio? |
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| [17:11:49] | bongalo: | On my pvr500, I receive a LOT of static, and the video is just fine. |
| [17:12:03] | Kazan: | audio is fine |
| [17:12:26] | Kazan: | static in your audio.. you sure that is a problem with the tuner... |
| [17:12:40] | Kazan: | have you tried some known-good video as a baseline? |
| [17:12:54] | bongalo: | no static in the audio, the audio is, as far as I can tell, perfect. |
| [17:13:16] | Kazan: | static in the video? |
| [17:13:24] | Kazan: | try a signal booster |
| [17:13:27] | bongalo: | its just the video on all of the channels and both tuners has a LOT of static. |
| [17:13:43] | Kazan: | most signal boosters also "clean" the signal |
| [17:13:51] | bongalo: | hmm, a powered signal booster. |
| [17:13:54] | Kazan: | oh.. and check that your grounding is good |
| [17:14:00] | Zider: | you just said video were fine? |
| [17:14:07] | Kazan: | i have a 1-input 4-output powered signal booster |
| [17:14:16] | bongalo: | grounding is good too, I ran it my self and all of my computers at home are on apc ups. |
| [17:14:30] | Kazan: | when I still had a coax feed from my VCR to my TV I had a problem with "crawling lines" on the TV because of grounding issues |
| [17:14:43] | bongalo: | Zider, the audio is fine, its the video is lousy on both tuners. |
| [17:14:48] | Kazan: | is the TV and everything hooked to it on the same APC UPS :P |
| [17:15:08] | Zider: | bongalo: but you said video were fine first :) |
| [17:15:12] | bongalo: | lol, nope, different feed off the panel with different apc ups. |
| [17:15:31] | Kazan: | grounding problems are a bitch with video :P |
| [17:15:37] | bongalo: | Zider, if I did that was my mistake. I ment that the audio is good and the video is lousy. |
| [17:15:42] | Zider: | ah :) |
| [17:15:44] | Kazan: | TVs are very prone to grounding issues |
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| [17:16:26] | Kazan: | could also be that your freq table needs tweaking if the signal booster doesn't end up working |
| [17:16:48] | bongalo: | each TV in my house is protected with its own apc ups along with their receiver. My room, where my linux servers are, I have two ups, one for the servers and the other for my tv and M$ box. |
| [17:17:08] | bongalo: | how would I tweak the freq table? |
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| [17:17:43] | bongalo: | I'd give that a try right now. |
| [17:18:09] | Kazan: | not sure... play with tuning normal tv programs |
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| [17:18:27] | bongalo: | I've also, swinging a dead chicken over my head when the moon is full if I thought that would help. |
| [17:18:31] | Kazan: | hehehe |
| [17:18:50] | Kazan: | A) signal booster, B) try different freq tables, C) try tweaking freq table |
| [17:18:56] | paladine: | its a shame I don't have the option of just watching tv without the prebuffering |
| [17:19:12] | paladine: | cos I daresay all this prebuffering is hard on the drives |
| [17:19:34] | bongalo: | i was so worried I'd have a problem with mythtv installation, but that went great, NP there. |
| [17:19:47] | halcyon: | paladine, at 6Mb/sec? :D |
| [17:20:19] | bongalo: | lol, the signal booster I can pickup on my way home. The freq table I dont know anything about, any help would be appreciated. |
| [17:20:30] | paladine: | halcyon, did you see what I pastebinned? |
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| [17:20:44] | paladine: | it seems the problem is only occuring after a new file has just been started |
| [17:20:52] | paladine: | but it doesn't do it every time |
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| [17:21:18] | halcyon: | yes paladine. Oh, what version of ivtv do you have? |
| [17:21:21] | bongalo: | freq table through myth, ah. |
| [17:21:40] | paladine: | halcyon, 0.4.6 I think sec |
| [17:21:40] | Kazan: | there are several us frequency table options in mythtv setup |
| [17:21:49] | Kazan: | i think there are three |
| [17:21:53] | Kazan: | one terrestrial and two cable |
| [17:22:07] | paladine: | yeah 0.4.6 |
| [17:22:19] | bongalo: | is the freq table in an mysql table or hard coded? |
| [17:22:21] | Kazan: | ivtv 0.4.6 wtf? |
| [17:22:40] | Kazan: | bongalo: try playing with the table choice in setup before trying to tweak individual channels |
| [17:22:42] | paladine: | Kazan I am using 2.6.15 kernel |
| [17:22:46] | Kazan: | but yes i think it's in the db |
| [17:22:48] | Kazan: | paladine: why |
| [17:22:53] | paladine: | cos I am on ubuntu |
| [17:22:56] | bongalo: | I'll try that |
| [17:22:56] | Kazan: | ewwww |
| [17:23:00] | Anduin: | bongalo: It is in code |
| [17:23:05] | paladine: | current ubuntu kernel is 2.6.15.26 |
| [17:23:09] | Kazan: | ewwww |
| [17:23:22] | Kazan: | i was absolutely done with unbuntu after about 20 minutes |
| [17:23:30] | bongalo: | argh, no standing on the couch with the rabbit ears for me then. |
| [17:23:32] | halcyon: | go to .7, I'm on 2.6.15 too |
| [17:23:41] | Kazan: | when the latest version only had pam .76 instead of .99 (current) – >= .79 is needed for console.perms and rlimits |
| [17:23:56] | Kazan: | and then installing gc++ didn't install all it's requirements to actually work, just to execute |
| [17:23:58] | paladine: | halcyon, 0.7 works with 2.6.15? |
| [17:24:14] | Kazan: | .7 is ONLY for 2.6.17 kernels as i understand it |
| [17:24:17] | Kazan: | anyway.. afk lunch |
| [17:24:26] | GreyFoxx: | Kazan: That's what their site and mailing list says |
| [17:24:30] | halcyon: | that's what I'm running, I think |
| [17:24:46] | halcyon: | nevermind! |
| [17:24:48] | halcyon: | .4.6 |
| [17:24:51] | mkrufky: | ivtv 0.7 with kernel 2.6.15 ??? i think you're asking for trouble |
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| [17:25:10] | ** GreyFoxx is happily running ivtv 0.20rc3j ** | |
| [17:25:11] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [17:25:21] | mkrufky: | ivtv 0.X.y should work with kernel 2.6.(10+X).y |
| [17:25:24] | halcyon: | hehe I've got a .7 version in my build dir for some reason |
| [17:25:26] | GreyFoxx: | 0.4xx on my work myth box, but at home still 0.20 |
| [17:25:39] | ** gardengnome is happily running ivtv 0.8.0 on 2.6.15. :) ** | |
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| [17:25:51] | bongalo: | lol, rub it in GreyFoxx |
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| [17:26:19] | bongalo: | wow, ivtv 0.8? where? |
| [17:26:39] | stuarta: | gardengnome: though ivtv 0.8 had issues? |
| [17:26:56] | bongalo: | is that beta? |
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| [17:27:09] | paladine: | that the latest cvs version? |
| [17:27:32] | gardengnome: | bongalo: heh. not the real release. i downloaded the v4l-dvb tree from linuxtv.org and then i merged ivtv trunk into it – that gave me all necessary modules. really easy thing to do, but probably not recommended... |
| [17:27:44] | gardengnome: | stuarta: works fine here. this is not my production box, though |
| [17:28:33] | bongalo: | gardengnome, thanks but thats not for me, well at least not yet. |
| [17:30:15] | gardengnome: | well, i didn't want to do it either. but then i found out ivtv 0.4.x won't work anymore after upgrading the dvb drivers.. |
| [17:30:25] | janneg: | stuarta: only issues on 64bit and we resolved them yesterday |
| [17:30:28] | paladine: | yeahit is definitely an issue related to when it starts a new file |
| [17:30:33] | paladine: | it just did it again |
| [17:31:06] | janneg: | see the patch in http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/2044 |
| [17:32:10] | paladine: | so the question, what to do about it |
| [17:32:53] | paladine: | once it hits 1.1GB it starts a new file, and thats when the prebuffer issue happens |
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| [17:35:52] | bongalo: | Kazan, the power booster, the bost the power level but doesnt that split the signal to noise ration too? |
| [17:36:18] | halcyon: | paladine, what filesystem is it on? |
| [17:36:45] | halcyon: | err what type of filesystem |
| [17:36:51] | paladine: | ext3 |
| [17:37:20] | paladine: | I have another drive in thisbox which is not even formatted let alone mounted |
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| [17:37:46] | paladine: | if you can recommnd a better fs I can set that drive up |
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| [17:37:53] | paladine: | and use that for mythtv storage |
| [17:37:56] | dooder: | I just redid my myth setup and whenever a recording trys to start I get this error in the log |
| [17:37:59] | dooder: | VIDIOC_S_CTRL:: Invalid argument |
| [17:38:40] | dooder: | i've tried versoins 4.x, 6.x and 7 of ivtv with no luck and if I do a cat /dev/v4l/video0 > test.mpg I get good video |
| [17:39:26] | halcyon: | hmm, does it have the correct device set up for your card dooder? |
| [17:39:35] | halcyon: | it sounds like it's trying to use a source on the card that doesn't exist |
| [17:40:04] | halcyon: | paladine: if it's easy to try on another filesystem, that might help (I use reiser but others have used xfs) |
| [17:40:05] | dooder: | ya. and I've duouble checked the capturecard table in the db and compared it against the ivtvctl ouput |
| [17:40:13] | halcyon: | weird.. |
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| [17:41:12] | dooder: | i think i might try knopmyth and see if that works |
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| [17:41:25] | Anduin: | dooder: Which card type? |
| [17:42:50] | dooder: | Anduin: avermedia M179 |
| [17:43:12] | Anduin: | dooder: Probably just the volume setting failing (as it should) |
| [17:43:16] | fryfrog: | Are the two main HDTV cards the pcHD and air2pc ? are there more now? |
| [17:43:50] | dooder: | Anduin: why should the volume setting fail ? |
| [17:44:27] | Anduin: | dooder: That particular card doesn't have one, the actual backend log should contain more than what you pasted. |
| [17:45:34] | dooder: | Error setting codec params |
| [17:45:35] | dooder: | VIDIOC_S_CTRL:: Invalid argument |
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| [17:45:37] | paladine: | ouch |
| [17:46:02] | paladine: | note to self: don't open the gnome disk manager when mythtv is running |
| [17:46:59] | halcyon: | why not? |
| [17:47:01] | dooder: | i think it is the same issue this guy was having : http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/ivtv/devel/29064 |
| [17:47:07] | Anduin: | dooder: Yeah, it is the second one to be more worried about |
| [17:47:34] | metalac: | amazing, i'm compiling 0.20 while watching TV, no problem :) |
| [17:47:34] | paladine: | it completely crashed my system |
| [17:47:51] | paladine: | had to hard reboot |
| [17:48:05] | halcyon: | hmm, weird |
| [17:48:09] | Anduin: | dooder: You keep cutting out useful bits, any chance of pastebining the actual log (at least that chunk of it) |
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| [17:49:54] | paladine: | halcyon, what fs do you recommend for mythtv? |
| [17:49:55] | Anduin: | dooder: I'd check device perms as well |
| [17:50:10] | halcyon: | I'm not sure paladine – I use reiser, others use xfs and some others |
| [17:50:32] | paladine: | I presume the faster the better |
| [17:50:44] | paladine: | xfs faster than reiser? |
| [17:52:15] | metalac: | xfs should be faster than reiser when it comes to big files |
| [17:52:21] | metalac: | reiser is the best for small files |
| [17:52:40] | paladine: | now I have to figure out why gparted is not seeing my second sata drive |
| [17:53:18] | fryfrog: | xfs/jfs are good choices, i think xfs is more mature on linux? |
| [17:53:34] | fryfrog: | reiserfs is great for lots of tiny files, but not so great for large files |
| [17:53:39] | fryfrog: | and of course, ext3 is fine too |
| [17:53:49] | fryfrog: | really, when you get down to it... it isn't gonna matter a whole lot :) |
| [17:54:03] | paladine: | well ext3 is not fine for me cos it is causing prebuffer problems when it starts a new file in livetv |
| [17:54:06] | halcyon: | hehe yeah :D |
| [17:54:16] | halcyon: | unless it's not the filesyteem |
| [17:54:16] | fryfrog: | I use xfs for my 1.2TB partition, reiserfs for my 80G gentoo / (cause of portage) |
| [17:54:37] | fryfrog: | paladine: are you *sure* it is the file system causing it? |
| [17:54:58] | halcyon: | what else is using the cpu paladine? |
| [17:55:00] | kormoc: | jfs is considered rather stable on linux by a lot of big names. I do believe that ibm ships with jfs linux boxes? |
| [17:55:01] | fryfrog: | unless you are on *really* low end hardware, i have to say i doubt it is an FS issue |
| [17:55:03] | hjohnson: | i'm running ext3 right now, mostly because it allows me to shrink the filesystem |
| [17:55:11] | paladine: | fryfrog, I can't see what else it would be, it seems it is taking longer to create the new file that prebuffer likes |
| [17:55:27] | fryfrog: | paladine: at least it is easy to test though :) |
| [17:55:29] | kormoc: | paladine, what's the harddrive and controler specs? |
| [17:55:40] | paladine: | matrox 250GB sata |
| [17:55:45] | kormoc: | and did you setup ext3 strangely at all? |
| [17:55:51] | paladine: | nope |
| [17:55:51] | kormoc: | change the journal type or similar? |
| [17:55:54] | fryfrog: | yeah, i din't say jfs was unstable. i just believe xfs has been around longer *on linux* than jfs |
| [17:56:08] | fryfrog: | and jfs is known as.... |
| [17:56:17] | fryfrog: | damn, what is it called and where is it originally from? |
| [17:56:19] | fryfrog: | HPUX? |
| [17:56:48] | hjohnson: | fryfrog: no. |
| [17:56:50] | fryfrog: | anyway, where ever jfs origininated it is considered *very* stable :) |
| [17:56:51] | kormoc: | jfs was on AIX |
| [17:56:55] | hjohnson: | JFS is IBM's filesystem on AIX |
| [17:56:57] | fryfrog: | what was it called? |
| [17:56:58] | fryfrog: | ahhh |
| [17:57:01] | fryfrog: | thanks :) |
| [17:57:15] | hjohnson: | "AIX as in "Aches and Pains" |
| [17:57:22] | kormoc: | JFS was in linux in 2001 or so |
| [17:57:28] | hjohnson: | just like HP-UX is pronounced "HP Sucks" ;) |
| [17:57:30] | fryfrog: | and XFS? |
| [17:57:37] | bongalo: | lol |
| [17:57:44] | ** dooder emerges myth .20 ** | |
| [17:57:44] | fryfrog: | "Slowlaris"? :) |
| [17:57:58] | fryfrog: | is wikipedia down for anyone else? |
| [17:57:59] | Kazan: | slowlaris :D |
| [17:58:00] | kormoc: | 2001 introduced, 2002 stable for xfs in linux |
| [17:58:12] | Kazan: | wikipedia is getting hammered shitless with vandals yesterday and today |
| [17:58:19] | fryfrog: | so i guess jfs and xfs are pretty much the same :) |
| [17:58:30] | kormoc: | yeah, would seem so |
| [17:58:34] | fryfrog: | can jfs be grown? I think so? |
| [17:58:44] | fryfrog: | i *think* reiserfs is one of the only that can *shrink* as well as gro |
| [17:58:54] | fryfrog: | but really, only bitches *shrink* their file system :) |
| [17:59:09] | kormoc: | jfs can be grown |
| [17:59:25] | Kazan: | the bank doesn't like me very much :D |
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| [17:59:34] | fryfrog: | i *just* found xfs_fsr! |
| [17:59:44] | fryfrog: | a file optomizer for xsfs file systems |
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| [18:00:10] | kormoc: | I've heard of that, but isn't it rather... experimental? |
| [18:00:16] | fryfrog: | "filesystem reorganizer for XFS" actually |
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| [18:00:28] | fryfrog: | seems to be part of the base xfs tools |
| [18:01:00] | kormoc: | niftyness |
| [18:01:27] | paladine: | ok bbiab I am gonna have to do some hardware shuffling to get this second drive seen again |
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| [18:01:55] | fryfrog: | the man page doesn't imply an instability |
| [18:02:00] | brikus: | I'm having a problem on 0.19 with my program guide loading very slowly. I'm using the least CPU intensive shading (echo) and the machine is overpowered (Athlon X2 3200+, 1gb RAM, GeForce5, pvr-350). Any recommendations to improve this? |
| [18:02:06] | fryfrog: | and it looks like all it *really* does is copy a file, then remap it |
| [18:02:22] | fryfrog: | which is basically the only way of defragging *any* linux file system anyway |
| [18:03:15] | Kazan: | what's that |
| [18:03:39] | Kazan: | lol: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fre . . . did=75918884 |
| [18:04:27] | Anduin: | brikus: channel icons? |
| [18:04:39] | Juski: | brikus: is it a remote frontend? if so, make your icons readable 'locally' by either copying em or mounting a share of them |
| [18:04:58] | brikus: | No channel icons. I planned on getting those after I get everything working a bit more smoothly |
| [18:05:09] | brikus: | Frontend and backend on the same machine |
| [18:05:15] | simcop2387: | stupid nvidia drivers, for some reason they keep saying i have no controls for xv |
| [18:09:09] | fryfrog: | jesus, xfs was started by SG in 1993! |
| [18:10:08] | Kazan: | ha |
| [18:10:15] | Kazan: | wtf does XFS stand for anyway |
| [18:10:20] | dooder: | sweet. fixed it |
| [18:10:36] | halcyon: | what was it dooder? |
| [18:10:39] | jams: | XTREME file system! |
| [18:10:49] | halcyon: | haha jams |
| [18:10:56] | dooder: | Tuner 1 was set in a table when it should be Tuner 0 |
| [18:10:57] | simcop2387: | ha |
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| [18:11:18] | fryfrog: | "XFS is a high-performance journaling file system created by Silicon Graphics for their IRIX operating system." |
| [18:11:19] | halcyon: | did you just do delete all cards and then recreate? |
| [18:11:28] | fryfrog: | Doesn't seem to say it stands for anything :/ |
| [18:11:33] | fryfrog: | maybe the X from IRIX? |
| [18:11:44] | dooder: | halcyon: I've done that before and it didn't work. |
| [18:11:47] | dooder: | weird |
| [18:11:49] | halcyon: | yeah |
| [18:12:08] | halcyon: | although I had a similar issue when I removed a card... stayed even after delete all cards. |
| [18:12:20] | simcop2387: | i like Xtreme File System better |
| [18:13:12] | fryfrog: | the wikipedia entry for XFS is *huge* |
| [18:13:22] | fryfrog: | very detailed too |
| [18:13:34] | lucas123: | hey folks. I'm hoping to get a tip on how to get my ir-blaster to work. |
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| [18:13:40] | lucas123: | I'm using a 2nd copy of lirc, named ledxmit as suggested on various places on the web. |
| [18:13:58] | lucas123: | I call ledxmit-irsend with --device /dev/ledxmitd SEND_ONCE myremote mybutton |
| [18:14:14] | lucas123: | I see kernel messages such as: Interrupt 4, port 03f8 obtained |
| [18:14:14] | lucas123: | SET_SEND_CARRIER |
| [18:14:14] | lucas123: | SET_SEND_DUTY_CYCLE |
| [18:14:22] | lucas123: | but the actual ir blaster seems to not do anything at all. any ideas? |
| [18:15:55] | simcop2387: | hmm i could replace the scroll lock LED on a keyboard with an IR one and use that for a transmitter! (just call xset led 3 a couple thousand times a second) |
| [18:16:16] | fryfrog: | Disadvantage: "Recovering deleted files from an XFS filesystem is almost impossible (though this can be an advantage, too)" |
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| [18:16:34] | kormoc: | same with almost every journaling file system |
| [18:16:40] | paladine: | thats proper oddball |
| [18:16:58] | paladine: | Ubuntu will not see an unpartitioned drive unless it is on the first drive port |
| [18:17:13] | halcyon: | simcop2387: but how would you know your scroll was locked?! |
| [18:17:15] | paladine: | I had to shutdown, switch the second drive onto sata1 and reboot with livecd |
| [18:17:19] | paladine: | before gparted would see it |
| [18:17:31] | kormoc: | go ubuntu |
| [18:17:46] | halcyon: | or maybe, go gparted |
| [18:17:53] | Beirdo: | bah, I'm sure it worked fine for me |
| [18:17:56] | Beirdo: | use fdisk maybe |
| [18:18:03] | simcop2387: | halcyon: you cant anyway in x :) |
| [18:18:04] | paladine: | ok where is the storage space setup in mythtv again? in mythtv-setup? |
| [18:18:06] | Beirdo: | gparted is overrated |
| [18:18:12] | halcyon: | simcop2387: hehe yeah |
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| [18:21:57] | Honk^away: | heya :) how can i build a set up that allows me to play movies from my "main" pc while using mythtv to watch tv on a dedicated system? my tv does not have 2 free scart slots :P |
| [18:22:11] | paladine: | k lets see how it likes xfs on a drive dedicated to mythtv |
| [18:22:27] | fryfrog: | Honk^away: what? |
| [18:22:51] | Honk^away: | i've got movies on 1 system but tv on another :P |
| [18:23:10] | paladine: | hopefully this will stop these prebuffer issues |
| [18:23:11] | Honk^away: | and i've got no clue if there's any solution to set up mythtv to allow playing both =) |
| [18:23:31] | fryfrog: | I'm sorry, but I still don't understand the issue |
| [18:23:32] | kormoc: | Honk^away, just mount the movies from remote machine locally on the myth box and use mythvideo? |
| [18:23:44] | fryfrog: | Use Myth1 to play movies/tv, use Myth2 to play movies/tv |
| [18:24:16] | Honk^away: | kormoc: i could do that, but i'm searching for another way ;) |
| [18:24:24] | Honk^away: | fryfrog: 2 myth backends? =) |
| [18:24:39] | kormoc: | Honk^away, why? what do you want to do then? |
| [18:24:49] | fryfrog: | Honk^away: As many backends *or* front ends as you want |
| [18:24:52] | Honk^away: | kormoc: the same effect without having to set up nfs ;) |
| [18:25:01] | Honk^away: | fryfrog: sounds good ;) |
| [18:25:05] | fryfrog: | Honk^away: and nfs mounting the video dir is the way to go |
| [18:25:08] | kormoc: | Honk^away, can't. mythvideo doesn't stream over the network... |
| [18:25:15] | Honk^away: | d'oh =) |
| [18:25:18] | fryfrog: | the *only* way to go |
| [18:25:23] | fryfrog: | it isn't like NFS is *hard* |
| [18:25:30] | fryfrog: | its like, 2 lines |
| [18:25:32] | Honk^away: | i never said it was :P |
| [18:25:40] | fryfrog: | 1 line in /etc/exporst on the server and 1 in /etc/fstab |
| [18:25:53] | fryfrog: | spelled right of course :) |
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| [18:26:10] | Honk^away: | it's just not what i was looking for ;) |
| [18:26:22] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [18:26:22] | Honk^away: | mkay, just pretend i didnt ask anything =) |
| [18:26:31] | kormoc: | Honk^away, feel free to submit a patch to stream mythvideo from the backend |
| [18:26:34] | fryfrog: | you *could* make the movie system the *main* system |
| [18:26:39] | fryfrog: | and the tv e a remote FE |
| [18:26:40] | paladine: | hehe /var/video was root:root too wonder if that had anything to do with it |
| [18:26:49] | fryfrog: | assuming you only watch movies on one, and tv only on the other |
| [18:27:21] | Honk^away: | fryfrog: i can only have 1 connection to my tv though.. so 1 system has to handle both.. in some way |
| [18:27:37] | kormoc: | Honk^away, his solution is that way |
| [18:27:44] | fryfrog: | I kind of see: So Myth1 is fe/be, with the videos on it |
| [18:27:46] | Honk^away: | and i want to be able to watch tv while my main system is down =) |
| [18:27:46] | kormoc: | Honk^away, myth will stream tv over a network, but not videos |
| [18:28:01] | kormoc: | welp then, that won't really work too well |
| [18:28:06] | Honk^away: | kormoc: well.. i'll just set up nfs |
| [18:28:14] | Honk^away: | thanks :) |
| [18:28:15] | fryfrog: | I'm still a bit confused |
| [18:28:16] | kormoc: | and what type of linux user are you shutting down a box! that's un linuxy! |
| [18:28:31] | fryfrog: | Are you hoping to watch tv when the "main" box is down *using* myth? |
| [18:28:44] | paladine: | frankly I don't understand how on earth mythtv was writing video to /var/video considering it was root:root permissions |
| [18:28:47] | Honk^away: | fryfrog: the tv box is supposed to do the entire tv stuff |
| [18:28:51] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [18:28:58] | kormoc: | paladine, cause mythbackend was running as root:root? |
| [18:29:08] | fryfrog: | so TV box is master backend, with a front end *and* would have all the videos on it |
| [18:29:20] | fryfrog: | your *other* system could *optionally* use nfs if you wanted to watch movies |
| [18:29:28] | paladine: | nope mythbackend is paladine |
| [18:29:34] | fryfrog: | and you can shut down the *other* one when ever you want (since it is only a frontend) |
| [18:29:42] | Honk^away: | i'm talking about movies from other sources =) |
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| [18:29:47] | kormoc: | paladine, then the directory was o+rw |
| [18:29:53] | fryfrog: | but the one hooked to the TV would (in theory) stay on cause it does the recording |
| [18:30:02] | paladine: | kormoc, aye must have been |
| [18:30:03] | fryfrog: | Honk^away: can't relocate where the movies are "stored"? |
| [18:30:09] | Honk^away: | nah |
| [18:30:16] | Honk^away: | nfs will do the trick though |
| [18:30:22] | fryfrog: | I guess you are pretty much stuck then with nfs :) |
| [18:30:22] | paladine: | bollox it is still doing the prebuffer thing |
| [18:30:38] | fryfrog: | OR if you want complexer, smb :) |
| [18:30:41] | Honk^away: | yeah, now that you've cleared up some things for me, it doesnt sound all that bad either ;) |
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| [18:30:55] | Honk^away: | smb sucks = |
| [18:30:56] | Honk^away: | =) |
| [18:31:15] | paladine: | it is defintely doing it when it starts a new file |
| [18:31:16] | afrosheen: | I agree but it's a necessary evil |
| [18:31:27] | Honk^away: | well.. there's nfs for windows too ;) |
| [18:31:31] | fryfrog: | smb is quite not-suck if you are interacting with teh winblows :) |
| [18:31:34] | Honk^away: | but i've got smb set up too =) |
| [18:31:44] | Honk^away: | (not running, but set up :P) |
| [18:31:48] | fryfrog: | ahah |
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| [18:32:46] | paladine: | am I best asking about this problem in #mythtv? |
| [18:32:53] | paladine: | cos it is getting really annoying now |
| [18:33:42] | halcyon: | yeah probably paladine, though I'm out of ideas |
| [18:33:58] | ** kormoc ponders joining #mythtv to watch the fireworks ** | |
| [18:34:12] | Hoxzer: | what complier would be most optimal for 0.20-fixes? |
| [18:34:15] | paladine: | halcyon, you got the pastebin url I did, I rebooted and lost it |
| [18:34:21] | kormoc: | Hoxzer, gcc |
| [18:34:30] | Hoxzer: | what version of it? |
| [18:34:30] | afrosheen: | lol @ kormoc |
| [18:34:38] | gardengnome: | paladine: did you try the patch which was posted by janne? |
| [18:34:38] | kormoc: | Hoxzer, a stable one? |
| [18:34:45] | paladine: | which patch? |
| [18:35:01] | Hoxzer: | kormoc: :( |
| [18:35:05] | gardengnome: | oops, sorry. got that wrong. wait a second, paladine |
| [18:35:24] | kormoc: | Hoxzer, well, there's quite a few stable versions of gcc to use. whatever comes with your distro is very likely to work fine |
| [18:35:54] | Hoxzer: | kormoc: :) k |
| [18:37:11] | gardengnome: | paladine: here's the ticket i created back then: http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/2315 – follow bradley's link |
| [18:37:35] | paladine: | k looking at it now |
| [18:37:53] | paladine: | patch means rebuild? man I had a nightmare building it the first time lol |
| [18:37:56] | gardengnome: | paladine: still need to test that one, though |
| [18:37:58] | gardengnome: | paladine: heh |
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| [18:38:06] | gardengnome: | paladine: are you on ubuntu? |
| [18:38:31] | halcyon: | gardengnome: was this only for DVB cards? |
| [18:39:09] | gardengnome: | halcyon: i'd left livetv running some time with my bttv card and it didn't happen, that's all i can say |
| [18:39:23] | paladine: | yes |
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| [18:40:48] | gardengnome: | paladine: shouldn't give ya much trouble. add a deb-src line for that mythtv repository you've got, run apt-get update and apt-get build-dep mythtv. that should give ya all the dependencies for mythtv. |
| [18:41:17] | paladine: | garden, I built from svn checkout .20 |
| [18:41:37] | paladine: | I already have all the deps |
| [18:41:39] | gardengnome: | paladine: oh, sorry. i thought you were using packages. |
| [18:41:46] | gardengnome: | wasted breath.. ;) |
| [18:42:29] | Puh: | hello, i upgraded from 0.19-fixes to 0.20 |
| [18:42:59] | Puh: | i'm seeing different mplexids for each channel in dtv_multiplex table |
| [18:43:02] | paladine: | garden, definitely look slike that is the problem though |
| [18:43:20] | Puh: | should the channels within the same mplex have the same mplexid? |
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| [18:43:59] | paladine: | how do I grab the patch? I clicked on it and it took me here http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/attachment/ticket/ . . . tionFix.diff |
| [18:44:52] | paladine: | I should try and get this rebuilt before I take my next set of meds |
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| [18:45:18] | alieas: | hi all |
| [18:45:40] | afrosheen: | I knew it was a problem with meds |
| [18:45:42] | afrosheen: | there's a patch for that |
| [18:45:48] | joshno: | in mythweb .20, if i tell it to only display favorite channels, it makes not favorite channels not visible. Thereby making it so that programs on not favorite channels cannot be recorded. Is that proper behavior? |
| [18:46:38] | gardengnome: | paladine: there should be a link at the bottom of that page. |
| [18:46:45] | Anduin: | paladine: sure |
| [18:47:03] | paladine: | the download in other formats link? |
| [18:47:19] | gardengnome: | i think so |
| [18:47:31] | Anduin: | paladine: Original Format |
| [18:47:37] | alieas: | Is anyone running x86_64 with pcHDTV HD-5500? I didn't have any problems compiling the driver on x86, but on x86_64 running vanilla kernel I can't seem to compile the v4l-dvb drivers. |
| [18:47:51] | paladine: | k I have the raw file now how do I apply it? |
| [18:48:17] | Anduin: | patch -p0 < fileyoudownloaded from the mythtv directory |
| [18:49:01] | paladine: | safe to rebuild with mythtv running? |
| [18:49:10] | halcyon: | yeah, just don't install |
| [18:49:11] | Anduin: | paladine: Yes, just not make install |
| [18:49:17] | gardengnome: | paladine: yep. "make install" might crash $things, too |
| [18:49:20] | gardengnome: | heh |
| [18:49:43] | paladine: | so just ./configure && make ? |
| [18:50:11] | gardengnome: | well |
| [18:50:26] | gardengnome: | you'Ve already built mythtv in this source tree, right? |
| [18:50:36] | gardengnome: | then "make" should be sufficient, i believe |
| [18:50:36] | paladine: | yeah so I gotta make clean first? |
| [18:51:00] | halcyon: | make should be enough |
| [18:51:07] | paladine: | kies |
| [18:51:16] | halcyon: | it should only recompile what's changed (I think) |
| [18:51:33] | paladine: | tis building now |
| [18:51:47] | paladine: | then shut down everything myth* and sudo make install I suppose? |
| [18:52:08] | halcyon: | paladine: that's what I've done before, yeah |
| [18:52:40] | paladine: | you know it feels good when you are confident something is gonna work ;) |
| [18:53:22] | paladine: | even if I do get a gazillion warning about non-virtual destructors :) |
| [18:53:45] | halcyon: | hehe I get those too :D |
| [18:54:03] | Anduin: | Most of them are from Qt these days. |
| [18:54:59] | paladine: | I don't have to do mythtv-setup again right? just restart mythbackend and mythfrontend? |
| [18:55:07] | paladine: | cd |
| [18:55:09] | paladine: | doh |
| [18:55:18] | Anduin: | paladine: correct |
| [18:56:24] | paladine: | k rebuilt, installed and reloaded, lets see if it fixes the problem :) |
| [18:56:53] | paladine: | looking at the ticket Iam pretty sure it is the same problem |
| [18:57:01] | paladine: | so I am confident it will be fine now |
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| [18:58:18] | paladine: | at least it was an educational problem :) |
| [18:58:36] | eidolon: | hey folks, i'm just beginning to set up LCDproc so I can use mythlcd. i have lcdd running, i have the curses client attached to it... but isn't there supposed to be an 'lcdproc' client that'll, oh, report system info to the lcd device? apt-get install lcdproc installed LCDd and says "server adn clients", but no client? |
| [18:59:01] | halcyon: | whoah my brother's nick is eidolon.. your name isn't Sam is it? :D |
| [18:59:08] | paladine: | hahahaha |
| [18:59:10] | eidolon: | um. no. :) |
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| [18:59:50] | paladine: | hey I just wanna thank you guys for all your help in the last 2 days, its appreciated :) |
| [19:00:12] | fryfrog: | np, you can send me $1,000 via paypal when ever you want ;) |
| [19:00:22] | paladine: | unfortunately that patch didn't fix the problem |
| [19:00:41] | paladine: | it just happened again |
| [19:01:09] | fryfrog: | and xfs didn't help either, right? |
| [19:01:10] | kormoc: | paladine, you have a bttv card, right? |
| [19:01:22] | paladine: | nope using pvr150 now as of this morning |
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| [19:02:38] | paladine: | its weird |
| [19:02:54] | paladine: | it actually continues writing data to the mpg file |
| [19:03:01] | paladine: | when it freezes in mythtv |
| [19:03:02] | kormoc: | could just be the pci bus is to flooded |
| [19:03:17] | kormoc: | whatelse do you have on the bus with the card? |
| [19:03:33] | paladine: | nothing on the PCI bus |
| [19:03:41] | paladine: | everything else i on the PCI-E bus |
| [19:04:11] | kormoc: | what about the onboard ide controlers? they have their own bus or are they extended off of the first pci bus? |
| [19:04:35] | paladine: | not sure to be honest but I only have a dvdrw on the ide bus |
| [19:04:42] | kormoc: | lspci will show you |
| [19:04:43] | paladine: | my hd's are sata |
| [19:04:48] | kormoc: | sata are still ide |
| [19:04:54] | kormoc: | just sata ide rather then pata ide |
| [19:05:04] | brikus: | I'm having a problem on 0.19 with my program guide loading very slowly. I'm using the least CPU intensive shading (echo) and the machine is overpowered (Athlon X2 3200+, 1gb RAM, GeForce5, pvr-350). Any recommendations to improve this? |
| [19:05:06] | fryfrog: | sata might be connected right to north bridge on some systems |
| [19:05:25] | fryfrog: | but it'd be hard to flood the connection since the stream is tiny compared to how quickly a disk can write |
| [19:05:48] | paladine: | what am I looking for in lspci? |
| [19:06:21] | kormoc: | the bus id of the stuff that shares the same bus id of the pvr 150 |
| [19:07:05] | paladine: | http://pastebin.ca/171972 |
| [19:08:40] | paladine: | the only thing active on that bus is the card |
| [19:09:13] | paladine: | I am not running RAID/Firewire and I am using my other Ethernet port |
| [19:10:13] | paladine: | mythtv is actually continuing to record the video |
| [19:10:26] | paladine: | just the front end is freezing trying to play it back |
| [19:11:25] | paladine: | at least that means it won't mess up the recording |
| [19:11:43] | paladine: | except it will split it across 2 files |
| [19:12:05] | paladine: | cos when I go back to the mythtv menu and hit watch tv again to fix it, it starts writing to a new file |
| [19:12:38] | halcyon: | so it records as long as the "livetv" is up (even after it freezes) |
| [19:12:44] | paladine: | yes |
| [19:13:17] | kormoc: | when it freezes, does top show anything in the wa cpu usage column? |
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| [19:13:37] | paladine: | dunno I will have to wait 17 minutes to check that |
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| [19:14:26] | sphery: | LLyric: entire thread at http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/195124#195124 (still in progress) |
| [19:14:28] | paladine: | its doing it like clockwork now on the 00 and 30 |
| [19:15:00] | sphery: | LLyric: You're forgetting that capture cards are not necessarily equal, so Myth should try to record using the highest-quality card (i.e. card 0) |
| [19:15:27] | halcyon: | umm, wrong window sphery? |
| [19:15:29] | paladine: | whos LLyric? |
| [19:15:32] | paladine: | hehe |
| [19:16:08] | sphery: | LLyric: If you want otherwise, /you/ have to tell Myth what you want with start early/end late (possibly negative values. |
| [19:16:26] | sphery: | LLyric: So, the right solution is to get more capture cards (as you jokingly mentioned). |
| [19:16:31] | sphery: | paladine: He's in here. |
| [19:16:54] | sphery: | He was asking some questions of #mythtv (a long time ago) that were really -users questions, so I'm answering here. |
| [19:17:06] | sphery: | But, thanks for looking out for me, just in case. :) |
| [19:17:14] | paladine: | hehehe |
| [19:17:17] | sphery: | Oh, and thanks, halcyon . |
| [19:17:28] | halcyon: | hehe gotcha sphery :D |
| [19:17:39] | paladine: | ok I changed the video directory and now I am getting complaints from myth |
| [19:17:42] | paladine: | 2006-09–15 20:16:51.051 AutoExpire: ERROR when trying to autoexpire file: /data/video/1108_20060914194124.nuv. File doesn't exist. Database metadata will not be removed. |
| [19:17:43] | sphery: | Just hope he checks the backlog (or has an away message log) |
| [19:18:22] | sphery: | paladine: You have the recordings directory set to /data/video? |
| [19:18:28] | paladine: | I do now |
| [19:18:37] | paladine: | but thats not where those recordings were :) |
| [19:18:39] | Anduin: | paladine: and moved all old files? |
| [19:18:40] | sphery: | and you have the file 1108_20060914194124.nuv in that directory |
| [19:18:46] | paladine: | no I never moved the old files |
| [19:18:54] | sphery: | You can only have one recordings directory. |
| [19:19:12] | sphery: | If you're trying to make more room using additional filesystems, look at myth_archive_job.pl in contrib |
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| [19:19:24] | paladine: | yeah but I manually deleted those recordings now (cos I moved the recording directory to its own drive) |
| [19:19:41] | paladine: | wasn't a space issue |
| [19:19:49] | sphery: | You can manually delete them from the filesystem, but autoexpire won't delete them. |
| [19:20:05] | sphery: | I.e. you go into mythfrontend's Delete/Watch Recordings and select Delete |
| [19:20:08] | Anduin: | paladine: Go delete them in the frontend to actually clean things up. |
| [19:20:11] | paladine: | wqs trying to see if putting giving myth its own xfs drive would deal with this prebuffer problem |
| [19:20:13] | sphery: | Then verify that's what you want. |
| [19:20:18] | paladine: | oklies |
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| [19:20:46] | sphery: | You can also (i.e. from the All Programs group if you're trying to delete everything) create a playlist and use that playlist to delete all of the recordings. |
| [19:20:58] | sphery: | Still have to verify on a recording by recording basis that you want to delete. |
| [19:21:18] | sphery: | But it will save you about 3 clicks per delete |
| [19:21:27] | paladine: | yeah thats fine, they were just livetv recordings |
| [19:21:34] | sphery: | Easy enough. |
| [19:21:51] | sphery: | So, you can use the LiveTV group to make the playlist |
| [19:22:01] | halcyon: | sphery: he's been having issues with prebuffer pauses on livetv (when creating new files), with plenty of cpu, etc |
| [19:22:41] | paladine: | is sphery one of the cool dev peeps? |
| [19:22:58] | sphery: | paladine: Have you tried http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/1153#comment:29 |
| [19:23:13] | sphery: | and, no, I'm no one important. |
| [19:23:18] | paladine: | I think thats the patch I just added |
| [19:23:24] | ** gardengnome is compiling release-0.20-fixes with the #1153 fix now ** | |
| [19:23:30] | paladine: | yeah i just rebuilt with that patch didn't help |
| [19:23:40] | sphery: | And, BTW, thanks halcyon for catching me up--I didn't feel like reading the whole backlog. :) |
| [19:23:45] | gardengnome: | paladine: did you perform a make install? |
| [19:23:54] | paladine: | yes indeedy |
| [19:24:01] | gardengnome: | k |
| [19:24:15] | sphery: | prebuffer pause only at show change (or on startup or ...)? |
| [19:24:43] | gardengnome: | i think i've seen a related issue in trac or -dev... might wanna search there |
| [19:24:44] | paladine: | seems to be doing it at 00 and 30 minutes in the hour |
| [19:24:52] | sphery: | that's probably show changes... |
| [19:25:00] | sphery: | Not when you first start LiveTV, though? |
| [19:25:09] | paladine: | nope fine when I first start |
| [19:25:14] | sphery: | HDTV? |
| [19:25:19] | paladine: | Idon't know how it would detect show changes |
| [19:25:24] | sphery: | from listings data |
| [19:25:26] | paladine: | nope regular tv |
| [19:25:32] | paladine: | I don't have listing |
| [19:25:53] | paladine: | I am using an external stb feeding into pvr150 via svideo |
| [19:25:55] | sphery: | then it breaks things up into half-hour increments for you automatically /because/ you don't have listings |
| [19:25:56] | gardengnome: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/224493 – wonder if this is related... |
| [19:26:05] | sphery: | Remote filesystem? |
| [19:26:11] | paladine: | nope |
| [19:27:10] | paladine: | I expect it will do it again in 3 minutes |
| [19:27:32] | paladine: | garden, I don't do any channel changing |
| [19:27:38] | paladine: | everything is coming in via svideo |
| [19:27:40] | halcyon: | could the dual-monitor thingy be affecting it at all? paladine , you also said you updated to the newest nvidia this morning right? |
| [19:27:41] | sphery: | paladine: can you pastebin a section of frontend logs showing the change |
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| [19:28:00] | paladine: | http://pastebin.ca/171786 |
| [19:28:12] | paladine: | halcyon, both monitors have their own GPU |
| [19:28:16] | sphery: | wow, that was fast |
| [19:28:25] | ** sphery thinks he posted it for someone else... ** | |
| [19:28:29] | paladine: | sphery, I pasted it earlier for halcyon |
| [19:28:40] | sphery: | lol... Should have read the backlog |
| [19:28:50] | halcyon: | it's a long backlog :D |
| [19:29:16] | paladine: | sphery, it keeps recording to file just livetv freezes |
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| [19:29:46] | sphery: | Did you cut out stuff where the blank lines exist? |
| [19:29:51] | paladine: | yeah |
| [19:30:21] | sphery: | Can you give me some more of that info (around only one switch) |
| [19:30:23] | paladine: | the only stuf in between was me quitting livetv (back to myth menu) and restarting livetv |
| [19:30:32] | sphery: | No filenames? |
| [19:30:42] | paladine: | nope |
| [19:31:00] | paladine: | it isn't doing it every 30 minutes either |
| [19:31:03] | paladine: | seems random |
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| [19:31:19] | paladine: | for example, I just had a show change and it is now 20:31 but this time it didn't error |
| [19:31:26] | sphery: | Hmmm. Might have to have you restart mtyhfrontend with "-v important,file" |
| [19:31:37] | sphery: | When did you apply that patch? |
| [19:31:50] | sphery: | You'd seen it fail since the patch? |
| [19:31:52] | paladine: | about 30 minutes ago, but it has happened since then |
| [19:32:08] | paladine: | yeah it happened a couple of minutes after I restarted (after applying the patch) |
| [19:32:41] | paladine: | sec I will paste the last one for you |
| [19:32:51] | sphery: | Well, it definitely sounds like the issue fixed by that patch. Perhaps there's another similar problem that wasn't fixed by the patch. |
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| [19:33:29] | sphery: | I have to admit I don't use LiveTV--I have hundreds of hours of recordings to catch up on... |
| [19:33:48] | sphery: | So, LiveTV is too much of a waste of time, anymore. |
| [19:34:02] | sphery: | But, I've been collecting recordings for years, now. |
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| [19:34:14] | Hoxzer: | :) just compiled 0.2-fixes |
| [19:34:31] | robbins876: | there's a patch? |
| [19:34:32] | sphery: | That's 0.20-fixes, I hope. ;) |
| [19:34:44] | sphery: | robbins876: Lots of patches for 0.20. |
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| [19:34:49] | sphery: | You should /not/ use 0.20 |
| [19:35:02] | paladine: | haha great time for my mouse batteries to die |
| [19:35:03] | halcyon: | I need to recompile .20-fixes |
| [19:35:06] | paladine: | brb |
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| [19:37:09] | paladine: | k sphery |
| [19:37:29] | paladine: | http://pastebin.ca/171786 <- that is from starting livetv > prebuffer error > ending livetv |
| [19:37:43] | paladine: | and that is after the patch |
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| [19:38:13] | paladine: | http://pastebin.ca/172015 |
| [19:38:17] | paladine: | that one even hehehe |
| [19:38:22] | paladine: | sorry bout that ;) |
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| [19:39:31] | paladine: | I have to take my meds again so I apologise in advance if I start talking nonsense in about 15 minutes |
| [19:42:03] | paladine: | <sphery> Hmmm. Might have to have you restart mtyhfrontend with "-v important,file" <- you want me to do that sphery? |
| [19:42:16] | sphery: | Was just about to ask you to. |
| [19:42:24] | sphery: | So, yes, please. |
| [19:42:31] | sphery: | (no quotes, BTW) |
| [19:42:38] | paladine: | Ifigured that bit :) |
| [19:42:44] | sphery: | Just in case. :) |
| [19:44:08] | paladine: | k restarted with mythfrontend -v important,file |
| [19:44:32] | ** sphery hopes he asked for the right verbosity ** | |
| [19:45:37] | Hoxzer: | But she got me on the run |
| [19:45:39] | paladine: | 2006-09–15 20:43:21.496 Enabled verbose msgs: important file |
| [19:46:30] | paladine: | where does it write the log? |
| [19:46:54] | sphery: | You have to tell it to write it out, otherwise it's stdout. |
| [19:47:46] | sphery: | You can capture it with "mythfrontend -v important,file 2>&1 | tee logfile" (to see it on stdout and put it in the file) |
| [19:47:59] | sphery: | (i.e. not ideal for a start script) |
| [19:48:37] | Hoxzer: | seems like ... :) 0.20-fixes stays stable |
| [19:48:51] | paladine: | well it will probably error again in approx 12 minutes |
| [19:49:02] | paladine: | although like I said, it doesn't do it every 30 minutes |
| [19:49:02] | Hoxzer: | but I'm sure during next week my father comes to complain that something is not working |
| [19:49:25] | paladine: | it managed to go 90 minutes earlier |
| [19:49:35] | paladine: | but it is always on the 00 or the 30 when it does break |
| [19:49:53] | sphery: | That's a "program change" when you have no listings. |
| [19:50:16] | sphery: | So, hope it fails sooner rather than later... |
| [19:50:22] | paladine: | yeah hehehe |
| [19:50:24] | sphery: | Will check back in 10 |
| [19:50:29] | paladine: | k :) |
| [19:50:38] | halcyon: | paladine: are you able to get listings for sky at all? |
| [19:50:41] | halcyon: | not familiar with it |
| [19:50:47] | halcyon: | (unrelated question of course) |
| [19:51:13] | paladine: | halcyon, yeah i think i could if I wanted to, but I didn't see much point since myth will never know what channel i am actually on |
| [19:51:28] | paladine: | it just gets a single channel through svideo |
| [19:51:34] | halcyon: | aren't there channel change scripts for sky? |
| [19:51:59] | paladine: | well i don't have my blaster working yet |
| [19:53:35] | paladine: | the only way you can get myth to change the channel with sky is to use an IR blaster |
| [19:53:41] | halcyon: | ah gotcha |
| [19:54:03] | paladine: | its DVB S2 |
| [19:54:13] | paladine: | and needs the stb to decode the signal |
| [19:55:00] | paladine: | I don't mind, I only record stuff I am watching at the time anyway |
| [19:55:29] | afrosheen: | well so I've been in touch with Blackmagic support and their new HDMI input card is not looking like a match |
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| [19:57:12] | Rsx024: | if i cant see mythweb from outside my network but can connect to streaming media from my mythweb does this mean some thing with apache? |
| [19:57:16] | paladine: | halcyon, I will eventually schedule but atm I only use mythtv for LiveTV |
| [19:58:02] | halcyon: | Rsx024: are you doing any port forwarding to the mythweb machine (NOT suggested) |
| [19:58:10] | paladine: | I actually installed it for medical reasons |
| [19:58:23] | paladine: | I have a tv next to my desk which I was using |
| [19:58:27] | halcyon: | paladine: I love myth for the scheduling... I don't use livetv much. Oh? |
| [19:58:47] | robbins876: | i don't have a TV in my room, so mythTV's liveTV function gets used a ton here |
| [19:58:50] | paladine: | but I was getting RSI from twisting round to watch it |
| [19:59:00] | afrosheen: | lol are you serious |
| [19:59:06] | paladine: | so I decided to move it to my computer so I wouldnt get rsi |
| [19:59:19] | paladine: | I am very serious |
| [19:59:26] | paladine: | I had very serious RSI in my chest |
| [19:59:33] | afrosheen: | I didn't know you could get it in your chest |
| [19:59:39] | paladine: | neither did I |
| [19:59:53] | afrosheen: | I mean..you back, maybe...but what actually *moves* in your chest? |
| [19:59:59] | paladine: | my pectorals |
| [20:00:18] | paladine: | my breast bone literally cracks (like when you crack your knuckles) |
| [20:00:32] | paladine: | because the tendons on my pecks are too tight from twisting to watch tv |
| [20:00:49] | paladine: | it very painful |
| [20:01:12] | afrosheen: | sounds like you need to start working out |
| [20:01:22] | paladine: | but even after just 3 days of having the tv on my pc desktop, it has improved massivly |
| [20:01:30] | brikus: | exit |
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| [20:02:27] | gardengnome: | paladine: i feel your pain. i used to have my laptop sitting on the couch table behind my computer chair. |
| [20:02:50] | paladine: | yeah twisting to awkward angles really is not good for you |
| [20:02:54] | gardengnome: | paladine: right now it's sitting next to my computer screen. which still sucks, my right arm hurts :) |
| [20:03:17] | paladine: | postur when you are sat at a computer for long periods of time is very important |
| [20:03:22] | paladine: | posture |
| [20:03:42] | halcyon: | yikes mine did that for a while, glad I stopped trying to crack it :D |
| [20:03:55] | paladine: | I spend anywhere from 16–40 hours at a time in front of my PC |
| [20:04:16] | paladine: | halcyon, your chest? |
| [20:04:38] | halcyon: | yeah, to the right of my breast bone, I guess. It's fine now |
| [20:04:48] | paladine: | yeah it is damn painful |
| [20:04:54] | paladine: | I thought I had angina for a while |
| [20:05:14] | mocker: | Any Gentoo people tried the ebuild for .20? |
| [20:05:34] | fryfrog: | mocker: yup, i compiled it last night and am going to do setup tonight |
| [20:05:36] | paladine: | it was the doc who finally figured out what the problem was |
| [20:05:38] | fryfrog: | did you get a "patch" error? |
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| [20:06:24] | paladine: | halcyon, I hope we manage to get the prebuffer issue fixed because the picture quality I am getting from the this card is awesome |
| [20:06:50] | mocker: | fryfrog: Did you have to unmask it manually? |
| [20:07:01] | fryfrog: | mocker: yeah, you want me to pastebin my package.unmask? |
| [20:07:06] | paladine: | its gone for over an hour now without doing it |
| [20:07:08] | mocker: | fryfrog: Sure. |
| [20:07:30] | halcyon: | paladine, I suppose you could record on the channel you want, and watch it as it records from manage recordings, if nothing else. |
| [20:07:32] | mocker: | I should probably be patient.. |
| [20:07:36] | mocker: | But... ;) |
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| [20:07:43] | sphery: | paladine: Does this mean it didn't lock up on the hour this time? |
| [20:07:44] | fryfrog: | patience are for doctors! |
| [20:08:06] | paladine: | sphery, yeah didn't lock up this time either, but it went 90 minutes earlier without locking up |
| [20:08:19] | fryfrog: | http://pastebin.ca/172058 |
| [20:08:23] | sphery: | OK. I'll try to check in again in 22 |
| [20:08:35] | paladine: | k, thanks too, I appreciated it |
| [20:08:40] | paladine: | -d |
| [20:09:08] | mocker: | fryfrog: Hmm, I think that's what I tried.. |
| [20:09:11] | mocker: | Lemme try that real quick. |
| [20:09:30] | fryfrog: | that should be in /etc/portage/package.unmask |
| [20:09:43] | fryfrog: | of course, you'll need ~ (unstable) keyword... but maybe you have it? |
| [20:09:54] | paladine: | k meds are kicking in now so I might be a bit spaced out for the next hour or so |
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| [20:11:35] | Bachus9000: | A couple days ago the power went out for a while. After the power returned and MythTV started up the mysql database has been slightly corrupted. I ran mysqlcheck and it fixed some errors, but I can't enter edit mode in the recordings that were made between the time the power went out and I fixed the database. Is there a solution? |
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| [20:12:20] | Bachus9000: | This is 0.19, by the way. |
| [20:12:39] | fryfrog: | Bachus9000: daily backups? :) |
| [20:12:47] | kormoc: | Bachus9000, solution is to restore from your backup :P |
| [20:13:13] | mocker: | fryfrog: With that I get http://pastebin.ca/172065 |
| [20:14:20] | Bachus9000: | There is nothing to restore. The recordings made before the power outage work fine. I edited the cut points in those last night. The recordings made after I ran mysqlcheck and repaired the database also work as expected. |
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| [20:14:28] | fryfrog: | mocker: it looks like your box is trying to upgrade X |
| [20:14:44] | mocker: | cker: it looks like your box is trying to upgrade X |
| [20:14:46] | fryfrog: | I think you'll need to unmerge the old style X and let it re-merge the new style x |
| [20:14:47] | mocker: | er.. |
| [20:14:52] | mocker: | damn putty paste. ;) |
| [20:14:57] | fryfrog: | hehe |
| [20:15:05] | fryfrog: | make a backup of your xorg.conf for sure |
| [20:15:18] | fryfrog: | then "emerge -C xorg-x11" should nuke the old one |
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| [20:15:27] | fryfrog: | you haven't switched to the new "modular" x, right? |
| [20:15:57] | mocker: | I guess not. |
| [20:16:04] | fish_: | do i have to use the exactly same mythtv version on the back- and frontend? |
| [20:16:13] | mocker: | I set it up and then let it be.. |
| [20:16:17] | fryfrog: | fish_: yes |
| [20:16:21] | mocker: | Keeping the WAF up. |
| [20:16:23] | fish_: | arr.. |
| [20:16:26] | Bachus9000: | fish_ Yes from my experience. |
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| [20:16:34] | fryfrog: | mocker: ah, sounds like the ol' gentoo experience biting you in the pants :) |
| [20:16:45] | fryfrog: | enjoy the (probably) long X compile :( |
| [20:16:51] | fryfrog: | be sure to emerge ccache if you haven't already |
| [20:17:03] | metalac: | so i installed 0.20 and i can't watch DVDs now, nothing happens when I click on Play DVD or when I click on DVD settings |
| [20:17:11] | mocker: | fryfrog: So.. emerge -C xorg-x11 will just nuke, or will it also update? |
| [20:17:19] | fryfrog: | it'll *only* nuke |
| [20:17:29] | GreyFoxx: | Bachus9000: you probable just need to rebuild the seektable info for those recordings |
| [20:17:31] | fryfrog: | you might then try "emerge -va virtual/x11" |
| [20:17:36] | mocker: | And then from their I can emerge mythtv and not get the blocking.. |
| [20:17:40] | fryfrog: | the *new* system has a different way of doing video cards too |
| [20:18:01] | fryfrog: | so you might need to add like... "VIDEO_CARDS=nvidia nv vesa vga" or something to make.conf |
| [20:18:49] | mocker: | Hmm, sounds like it's gonna be a long weekend. :) |
| [20:19:13] | mocker: | thanks. |
| [20:19:18] | Bachus9000: | GreyFoxx: How do I do that? Under job options I had it scan for commercials again thinking that would do it. |
| [20:19:42] | fish_: | do someone know why adding "media-tv/mythtv ~x86" to my package.keywords let my install 0.19 but not 0.20? (both are masked by keyword ~x86) |
| [20:20:08] | Honk^away: | "masked by package.mask" |
| [20:20:24] | Honk^away: | it'll tell ya, when you try to emerge it |
| [20:20:26] | fish_: | oh, yes, sorry i missed that ;) |
| [20:20:57] | fryfrog: | http://pastebin.ca/172058 |
| [20:21:05] | fryfrog: | that is what you need in /etc/portage/package.unmask |
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| [20:21:45] | fish_: | fryfrog: thanks |
| [20:22:17] | GreyFoxx: | bach from a commandline mythcommflag --rebuild filename.mpg |
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| [20:26:16] | opello: | GreyFoxx: dunno if you ever saw, but those rm4100s are going upwards of $30 now :/ |
| [20:26:52] | gardengnome: | jams: hey, got a link to the screenshots for your installer? :) |
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| [20:27:31] | mkrufky: | ah, i never knew that running 'mythcommflag' alone will scan all programs not yet flagged |
| [20:27:53] | GreyFoxx: | opello: Yeah, the price changes a lot |
| [20:28:22] | GreyFoxx: | still a good deal imho for a small, quiet low poer frontend |
| [20:28:30] | jams: | gardengnome- what for? |
| [20:28:59] | opello: | GreyFoxx: yeah, definitely |
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| [20:29:23] | opello: | can it boot off ide too? leery about abusing a poor cf card, heh |
| [20:30:02] | GreyFoxx: | opello: Nope, not unless you modifiy the stage2 source |
| [20:30:12] | gardengnome: | jams: we're gonna build yet another mythtv distro and need some inspiration :) |
| [20:30:23] | GreyFoxx: | opello: You can have your distro on a IDE drive of course |
| [20:30:26] | jams: | hehe |
| [20:30:32] | fish_: | the ebuild is broken |
| [20:30:32] | GreyFoxx: | but the kernel has to be on the CF card |
| [20:30:44] | paladine: | there we go |
| [20:30:46] | opello: | ah, does cf degrade over reads? i dunno much about it |
| [20:30:52] | fish_: | it seachs for mythtv-0.20-rev11163.patch but i think it wants mythtv-0.20_svn11163.patch |
| [20:30:58] | GreyFoxx: | opello: EVERYTHING degrades eventually |
| [20:31:03] | opello: | GreyFoxx: of course .. |
| [20:31:06] | jams: | gardengnome- let me make some new one real quick |
| [20:31:18] | mkrufky: | i would like a bootable image that i could put on a cf card that has mythfrontend, and can automatically find the backend server on the network... i should keep dreaming, right? |
| [20:31:20] | GreyFoxx: | But just reading a kernel from a CF card would take years to and years to die under normal use |
| [20:31:20] | opello: | GreyFoxx: i meant as poorly as with 1000s of writes |
| [20:31:25] | GreyFoxx: | and then you just replace the CF card |
| [20:31:26] | sphery: | paladine: lock up? (fingers crossed) |
| [20:31:27] | jams: | I will need some dev help to put the last finishing touch on it |
| [20:31:31] | paladine: | yup |
| [20:31:56] | opello: | ok, cool |
| [20:32:02] | paladine: | I haven't exited livetv yet, should I do that now? |
| [20:32:20] | jams: | gardengnome- although I have yet to ask anybody to help with the last bit |
| [20:32:31] | paladine: | it is still writing video to file (watching it grow now) |
| [20:32:39] | sphery: | GreyFoxx: weren't you making a USB boot stick with Myth? |
| [20:33:21] | GreyFoxx: | sphery: I did, Ijust haven't updated it past 0.18.1 |
| [20:33:26] | sphery: | Oh. |
| [20:33:33] | mkrufky: | seriously... is there already such a distro that can boot into mythfrontend and automatically find the backend server without the need to write to the boot disk? |
| [20:33:33] | sphery: | Just wondered. |
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| [20:34:03] | gardengnome: | jams: thanks! |
| [20:34:20] | paladine: | sphery there isn't anything extra in stdout |
| [20:34:22] | GreyFoxx: | mk500: No, there is no auto detection of a backend out there |
| [20:34:25] | gardengnome: | mkrufky: maybe knoppmyth is for you. it'll write to a ramdisk, i think |
| [20:34:28] | paladine: | just the same error messages as before |
| [20:34:39] | sphery: | So, the frontend did lock up? |
| [20:34:44] | paladine: | yes |
| [20:34:51] | paladine: | but it continued recording to file |
| [20:34:57] | mkrufky: | gardengnome: knoppmyth is on a very old version, last time i checked |
| [20:35:09] | gardengnome: | mkrufky: should be at least 0.19. |
| [20:35:19] | mkrufky: | and my latest kernel drivers are not yet included in knoppmyth |
| [20:35:21] | sphery: | Hmmm. I may have had the wrong verbosity or something. |
| [20:35:33] | paladine: | I have made a copy of the recorded mpg cos myth will autoexpire the copy in the video folder |
| [20:35:40] | mkrufky: | ...would mythfrontend 0.19 be able to work with mythbackend 0.20 ? |
| [20:35:48] | gardengnome: | mkrufky: no. |
| [20:35:52] | mkrufky: | didnt think so |
| [20:36:01] | ** mkrufky will stick with FC5 ** | |
| [20:36:19] | sphery: | paladine: Let's go about it a different way... |
| [20:36:29] | paladine: | want me to restart frontend with a different verbosity? |
| [20:36:46] | sphery: | What do you get when you do an ls on your recordings directory? (can you pastebin it, please) |
| [20:37:16] | paladine: | regular ls or ls -al? |
| [20:37:31] | sphery: | No, thanks. Not worth it. I'm thinking it's not the issue I thought it might be. |
| [20:37:34] | sphery: | either |
| [20:37:42] | sphery: | just need filenames |
| [20:38:23] | paladine: | http://pastebin.ca/172101 |
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| [20:38:36] | sphery: | Oh, and to tell Myth not to autoexpire LiveTV recordings, you can either hit record (R) when watching |
| [20:38:55] | sphery: | or, you can just change the group (from mythfrontend's watch recordings) to something other than LiveTv. |
| [20:41:29] | paladine: | sphery I don't see any options in "Watch Recordings" other than the list of recordings |
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| [20:42:30] | sphery: | Hit M for menu |
| [20:43:10] | sphery: | But, in reality, the best approach for recording without a guide--if you want to keep things--is to use a Manual Recording. |
| [20:43:26] | paladine: | yeah I do manually record |
| [20:43:32] | paladine: | when I want to |
| [20:43:37] | paladine: | but it records everything I watch |
| [20:43:40] | sphery: | OK. Just mentioning... |
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| [20:45:02] | paladine: | change group filter? |
| [20:45:08] | jams: | gardengnome- http://jmeyer.us/screens |
| [20:45:19] | jams: | warning those are not dialup friendly |
| [20:45:25] | sphery: | Hmmm, paladine, I'm out of ideas. |
| [20:45:31] | gardengnome: | jams: neither is my ISP... |
| [20:45:45] | Anduin: | I can't wait to send people over to ##lirc |
| [20:45:47] | gardengnome: | jams: thanks a lot, it's much appreciated :) |
| [20:45:50] | sphery: | It wasn't what I thought it might be, so I don't know what would cause it now that you've applied that one patch. |
| [20:45:53] | paladine: | which option do I go for in Watch Recordings? Change groups filter? |
| [20:46:31] | sphery: | No. That would show a different recording group. |
| [20:46:35] | GreyFoxx: | jams: Nice |
| [20:46:36] | jams: | gardengnome- still have two things I want to add |
| [20:46:42] | sphery: | You may have to use that to see the LiveTV group, though. |
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| [20:46:50] | sphery: | Then, select a recording and use the menu... |
| [20:46:50] | GreyFoxx: | jams: I didn't know you were working on a gui installer :) |
| [20:46:54] | cythrault: | is stuart around? |
| [20:47:00] | sphery: | I don't know what the option is for changing its recording group. |
| [20:47:10] | jams: | GreyFoxx- well so far it's just for my inhouse stuff |
| [20:47:17] | gardengnome: | jams: how do you configure your installer? is everything just hard-coded? |
| [20:47:20] | jams: | you know how one thing leads to another :) |
| [20:47:31] | kormoc: | cythrault, you could just look at the user's list and see |
| [20:47:35] | GreyFoxx: | jams: That's how most stuff works hehe |
| [20:47:48] | cythrault: | i'm trying to figure out if I should open a ticket about channel scanning on dvb-s, some channels are not seen as tv or radio service due to their service_type... |
| [20:47:55] | jams: | GreyFoxx- at some point I need your help |
| [20:48:16] | jams: | still looking at the myth code, but it gives me a headache every time |
| [20:48:17] | cythrault: | kormoc; i don't remember the nick he use... |
| [20:48:21] | paladine: | I get recording list menu |
| [20:48:21] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [20:48:48] | jams: | gardengnome- for the dropdown options, yes it's hardcoded |
| [20:48:57] | paladine: | and the only options are "Change Group Filer" "Change Group View" "Change Group Password" and "Add this recording to Playlist" |
| [20:49:19] | cythrault: | stuart; hi man, sorry to bother you... are you available for a quick question? |
| [20:49:48] | sphery: | Try I, then. |
| [20:49:52] | sphery: | Instead of M |
| [20:49:53] | jams: | gardengnome- the gui, just collects the information and writes it to a config file. After that a external program takes over |
| [20:49:56] | sphery: | One of them gives you the option |
| [20:50:13] | paladine: | Recording Options? |
| [20:50:20] | sphery: | (I don't remember which, but I could point you to the right button on my remote. :) |
| [20:50:24] | sphery: | Sounds good. |
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| [20:50:31] | gardengnome: | jams: that sounds cool! |
| [20:50:44] | jams: | gardengnome- that way it's distro independent :) |
| [20:50:51] | Mattwj2005: | hey guys |
| [20:51:05] | paladine: | "Do not record this program"? |
| [20:51:09] | gardengnome: | jams: heh, i was just wondering how that could be integraded into debconf :) |
| [20:51:49] | sphery: | No. |
| [20:51:59] | paladine: | Record at any time on this channel |
| [20:52:01] | paladine: | ? |
| [20:52:02] | sphery: | OK, from the code, you can put an item into a playlist and then change its recording group. |
| [20:52:05] | Mattwj2005: | I love my new TV |
| [20:52:10] | sphery: | Those just create new recording rules. |
| [20:52:16] | sphery: | Not useful without guide data. |
| [20:52:22] | jams: | gardengnome- http://pastebin.ca/172113 <= config file |
| [20:52:43] | sphery: | And, changing an individual recording is in Storage Options |
| [20:52:55] | Mattwj2005: | I get like 15 digital channels |
| [20:52:56] | sphery: | Not recording options |
| [20:53:07] | sphery: | Sorry. Don't know my way through the menus. |
| [20:53:46] | GreyFoxx: | jams: Cool. I like plaintext with = seperators heh |
| [20:53:50] | Mattwj2005: | 2 movie previews...3 or 4 weather channel...a few dups but it is still good :D |
| [20:53:53] | paladine: | yeah I found it in storage options |
| [20:53:57] | GreyFoxx: | easily parsible :) |
| [20:53:57] | sphery: | yep |
| [20:54:05] | jams: | GreyFoxx- got that right |
| [20:54:08] | sphery: | Sorry for the runaround... |
| [20:54:20] | jams: | and its works really well for bash scripts :) |
| [20:54:39] | paladine: | so what should I do about this prebuffer issue? |
| [20:54:56] | sphery: | paladine: I don't know what to recommend for the lock-up-at-program-change. Perhaps someone else has ideas. |
| [20:55:11] | gardengnome: | jams: it would be really nice to have some kind of framework for libmy(ui) that'd allow custom menus |
| [20:55:14] | GreyFoxx: | jams: yeah/. I like to make all config/whatever files very perl/bash/awk friendly :) |
| [20:55:45] | sphery: | But, it's really just the frontend being unable to find the file--not a "true" prebuffering pause (which can happen because of slow network or I/O wait or ...) |
| [20:55:53] | jams: | gardengnome- don't look at me, I just followed the examples in the myth code |
| [20:56:06] | gardengnome: | jams: heh. just dreaming up things :) |
| [20:56:32] | paladine: | sphery, yeah the problem is though, the only way to get it to work again is to quit LiveTV and then go back into it |
| [20:56:42] | paladine: | which means if I really am recording something, it will split it |
| [20:56:44] | jams: | when I finish up other things, I plan on adding a slider to allow you to set the size of the main parition |
| [20:56:59] | sphery: | It's splitting at the half-hour, anyway, since you don't have guide data. |
| [20:56:59] | paladine: | cos it starts a new file everytime you go into Watch TV |
| [20:57:06] | sphery: | If you create a manual recording, it won't split. |
| [20:57:23] | jams: | after that I will need help only showing certain options based on the "system type" |
| [20:57:30] | paladine: | so just hit R when I am watching TV and have everything dump to one file |
| [20:57:33] | paladine: | sounds fair enough |
| [20:57:41] | sphery: | Once you create a manual recording (and I don't mean pressing R in LiveTV--I mean create a manual recording under Manage Recordings), you can watch while it records |
| [20:57:45] | GreyFoxx: | System type being full OS type install or myth software only install ? |
| [20:57:54] | sphery: | No. R doesn't create a manual recording. |
| [20:57:57] | paladine: | k |
| [20:58:00] | sphery: | R just records a half hour. |
| [20:58:12] | jams: | GreyFoxx- System type, being the type of mythbox you plan to have |
| [20:58:12] | paladine: | so I just set the recording time in themanual recording to however long I wanna watch tv for :) |
| [20:58:24] | jams: | GreyFoxx- frontend only, backend only .... |
| [20:58:43] | sphery: | Yep. Or, if you know a show is on from 8–9 on channel 12, create a recording for that time and that channel... |
| [20:58:53] | sphery: | Also allows you to give the show a good name--instead of "Unknown" |
| [20:58:57] | GreyFoxx: | cool |
| [20:59:01] | paladine: | I only have 1 channel in mythtv |
| [20:59:11] | paladine: | the channel changes are done in the stb |
| [20:59:12] | ** GreyFoxx does yet another make install on his frontends ** | |
| [20:59:15] | sphery: | Hmmm. |
| [20:59:36] | sphery: | You have a video source defined, right? |
| [20:59:43] | ** Mattwj2005 gets like 75 channels or more ** | |
| [20:59:47] | paladine: | yeah everything is coming in through svideo |
| [20:59:54] | sphery: | that's an input. |
| [20:59:57] | paladine: | I am not using the tuner |
| [20:59:59] | sphery: | You have a MythTV video source? |
| [21:00:16] | sphery: | mythtv-setup Video Sources? |
| [21:00:20] | paladine: | yes |
| [21:00:26] | sphery: | OK, no grabber? |
| [21:00:31] | paladine: | I disabled grabber |
| [21:00:36] | sphery: | With No grabber? |
| [21:00:39] | paladine: | yes |
| [21:00:41] | sphery: | OK |
| [21:00:52] | sphery: | And you manually created a single channel for that video source? |
| [21:01:05] | paladine: | it fond it when i did a channel scan |
| [21:01:31] | sphery: | In general, you don't want to do channel scans for analog--only for DVB (the analog scanner has "issues") |
| [21:01:55] | paladine: | where do I setup this manual recording, I saw it earlier but can't find it now |
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| [21:02:09] | sphery: | I recommend you go to mythtv-setup, use the "Delete all" button in video sources. |
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| [21:02:27] | sphery: | Then create a new video source with No grabber and an external channel change script of /bin/true |
| [21:02:33] | paladine: | won't that stop svideo working? |
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| [21:02:47] | sphery: | Then manually create a single channel (with any number you want) |
| [21:03:02] | sphery: | Then associate that video source with the S-Video input of your capture card. |
| [21:03:12] | paladine: | hang on let me get into mythtv-setup so i don't get lost |
| [21:03:12] | sphery: | That will undo all your current config and configure it correctly. |
| [21:03:34] | sphery: | BTW, if any of this is wrong, Manual Recordings won't work (but LiveTV will) |
| [21:03:44] | metalac: | ok guys so i updated to 0.20 and i still have DVD stuter |
| [21:03:49] | metalac: | any clue what's up? |
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| [21:04:02] | paladine: | but will livetv still die at program change? |
| [21:04:20] | sphery: | Perhaps not once we re-configure it. |
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| [21:04:26] | Anduin: | metalac: Internal? After some time? |
| [21:04:33] | sphery: | I don't know for sure how it will react if there's a config problem. |
| [21:04:43] | paladine: | k sec loading mythtv-setup now |
| [21:04:48] | metalac: | Anduin: it's internal and it's from very begining |
| [21:04:59] | sphery: | paladine: make sure you stop mythfrontend /and/ mythbackend before doing this. |
| [21:05:06] | paladine: | yeah I did |
| [21:05:13] | sphery: | OK. |
| [21:05:15] | Anduin: | metalac: Other players work fine? |
| [21:05:28] | paladine: | k deleted all video source |
| [21:05:42] | metalac: | Anduin: well i had sync problems with xine on 0.19 |
| [21:05:47] | sphery: | Then create a new one with No grabber and /bin/true for channel change script |
| [21:05:57] | jams: | gardengnome- are you the source of the ubunta rumor? |
| [21:06:01] | GreyFoxx: | metalac: Try enabling extra audio buffering. See if it makes a difference |
| [21:06:02] | metalac: | Anduin: ok now it works ok, soooo weird :) it started all choppy, now it's not bad |
| [21:06:08] | metalac: | GreyFoxx: already did that |
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| [21:06:14] | gardengnome: | jams: me and SlicerDicer-. |
| [21:06:33] | jams: | good luck! |
| [21:06:50] | jams: | i'm sure it will be a hit |
| [21:07:05] | paladine: | sphery which screen is the channel change options?> |
| [21:07:13] | sphery: | ? Don't know |
| [21:07:48] | sphery: | That's on the connect source to input, it looks like |
| [21:07:54] | sphery: | So, don't need it, yet |
| [21:07:57] | gardengnome: | jams: thanks. i think we've got some good idea, now we need to make things happen :) |
| [21:08:01] | paladine: | k found it |
| [21:08:14] | sphery: | We need a channel, first, though. |
| [21:08:29] | sphery: | You'll create that in the channel editor |
| [21:09:15] | paladine: | What's Call Sign? |
| [21:09:29] | Anduin: | paladine: WKRP |
| [21:09:39] | sphery: | tells Myth what channels have the same content |
| [21:09:50] | sphery: | channel number is the number you use to change to a channel in LiveTV |
| [21:09:54] | Mattwj2005: | like the tv show? |
| [21:10:14] | paladine: | Prioity 0? |
| [21:10:22] | paladine: | Priority |
| [21:10:22] | sphery: | freqid is the channel number or frequency in kHz Myth sends to the channel change script |
| [21:10:26] | sphery: | Yep, 0 for priority |
| [21:10:41] | sphery: | (since it's your only one, default priority works well) |
| [21:11:00] | sphery: | For you--at this point--none of these are that important |
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| [21:11:10] | paladine: | K I set Channel Name, Channel Number, Call Sign, Video Source and TV Format |
| [21:11:19] | sphery: | sounds good |
| [21:11:29] | sphery: | Then connect the video source to the input |
| [21:11:35] | sphery: | use /bin/true for the channel change script |
| [21:11:47] | paladine: | what about frequency? |
| [21:11:55] | paladine: | I dunno what frequency svideo is |
| [21:12:10] | sphery: | it's ignored |
| [21:12:23] | sphery: | just put in any number (like 3) |
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| [21:13:07] | jams: | gardengnome- ignore the clip in the upper right of those screenshots. Thats windowmaker not part of the gui installer :) |
| [21:13:20] | paladine: | Preset Tuner to channel: 1 |
| [21:13:28] | sphery: | leave blank |
| [21:13:36] | sphery: | starting channel should be 1 |
| [21:13:41] | paladine: | k |
| [21:14:08] | sphery: | I guess the Preset Tuner option is important--must be blank. Should have mentioned that. |
| [21:15:11] | paladine: | k back in LiveTV now |
| [21:15:16] | sphery: | Cool. |
| [21:15:22] | paladine: | lets see if that helped |
| [21:15:50] | sphery: | If we did that right, you should be able to schedule manual recordings (I think it's Manage Recordings|Schedule Recordings|Manual or something like that) |
| [21:16:01] | sphery: | And, I hope it also fixes the LIveTV issue. |
| [21:16:18] | sphery: | gl |
| [21:16:23] | paladine: | yeah i will see if I get the prebuffer issue first then i will check out themanual recordings if I do |
| [21:16:32] | sphery: | sounds like a plan |
| [21:16:36] | sphery: | gotta get some food |
| [21:16:47] | paladine: | would be handy to add an option to MythTV to just watch the input as opposed to buffer it |
| [21:16:59] | sphery: | won't work on a distributed system. |
| [21:16:59] | paladine: | like tvtime does |
| [21:17:20] | fryfrog: | if you want tvtime, use tvtime :) |
| [21:17:22] | paladine: | yeah but I mean for people like me who just use it for watching tv mostly with occassional recording |
| [21:17:25] | sphery: | So, it only works in the simplest of MythTV configurations and you lose the PVR abilities. |
| [21:17:37] | sphery: | So, it won't ever be added to Myth. :) |
| [21:17:46] | fryfrog: | but it'd prolly be nice for game systems |
| [21:17:51] | sphery: | You can put an EXECTV entry in your menu to execute xawtv |
| [21:17:55] | fryfrog: | since the 1 or 2 sec of lag is retarded for that :) |
| [21:17:56] | paladine: | just think it is handy as an option |
| [21:18:32] | paladine: | ahh thats a cool idea |
| [21:18:33] | groogs: | Is mythstream ever going to make it in? i use that all the time now :p |
| [21:18:40] | paladine: | the EXECTV thing I mean |
| [21:18:42] | sphery: | See /usr/local/share/mythtv/themes/DVR/tvmenu.xml and search for EXECTV |
| [21:18:50] | sphery: | there's an example (commented out) |
| [21:18:53] | paladine: | thanks :) |
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| [21:19:00] | sphery: | might be in /usr/share on your system, though |
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| [21:19:12] | ginger2: | hello all |
| [21:19:16] | sphery: | And might have to change Classic instead of DVR depending on the menu theme you're using |
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| [21:19:20] | groogs: | fryfrog: why does tv viewing lag affect 'game systems' ? |
| [21:19:26] | paladine: | I presume I need to put it in the theme I am using? |
| [21:19:35] | scsponger: | hello... could someone help me... I'm new to Mythtv |
| [21:19:42] | sphery: | groogs: Hard to shoot someone if you're dead 2 seconds before you see them... |
| [21:19:57] | sphery: | paladine: in the /menu/ theme you're using |
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| [21:20:14] | ginger2: | just to let you all know that I've replaced my pvr500 with a pvr150 and my static issue has disappeared completely. |
| [21:20:17] | Dibblah: | Oooh! Myth can do as many as ten backend servers! |
| [21:20:23] | sphery: | scsponger: We can fix that (your being new to MythTV). It will just take some time. |
| [21:20:38] | ginger2: | lol |
| [21:20:41] | scsponger: | I've just installed mythtv from knoppmyth and my video capture card doesnt seem to be working... is there a way to reconfigure it? |
| [21:21:01] | sphery: | I don't know KnoppMyth. |
| [21:21:02] | groogs: | sphery: ohhh.. plugging in a console to a TV in port on the myth box, then watching it.. yeah i could see how that'd be a problem |
| [21:21:02] | paladine: | ui.xml? |
| [21:21:04] | scsponger: | haha thatnks sphery |
| [21:21:09] | paladine: | there is no tvmenu.xml |
| [21:21:20] | sphery: | paladine: tvmenu.xml is in the menu theme |
| [21:21:24] | jams: | scsponger- open a terminal and run mythtv-setup |
| [21:21:26] | sphery: | You're looking in the theme |
| [21:21:32] | Dibblah: | Ugh. This new tomshardware 'review' makes it sound like Myth needs a rack full of servers. |
| [21:21:33] | sphery: | there's a difference |
| [21:21:34] | scsponger: | thanks jams |
| [21:21:57] | sphery: | Dibblah: did Tom's say up to ten backends? |
| [21:21:58] | paladine: | oh right :) |
| [21:22:04] | sphery: | Couldn't it be unlimited? |
| [21:22:07] | Dibblah: | Yup. |
| [21:22:09] | Dibblah: | Yup. |
| [21:22:09] | sphery: | wow |
| [21:22:27] | sphery: | Guess they'll likely never be called on that by the typical reader... |
| [21:22:39] | scsponger: | <jams> do you know what driver a capture card should use if it has a bt878 chipset? |
| [21:22:39] | Dibblah: | "Scalability here is the key – an unlimited number of frontend clients may actively participate at any time, without needing any particular operating system." |
| [21:22:47] | Dibblah: | Errr... As long as it's Linux. |
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| [21:23:36] | sphery: | Technically, if you count the browser using the MythWeb frontend client as a "frontend client" (instead of MythWeb itself), any operating system works. |
| [21:23:39] | jams: | scsponger- are you asking about the os driver, or the card type in mythtv-setup? |
| [21:24:03] | paladine: | sphere, it is already in there just commented, I guess I just need to uncomment it |
| [21:24:04] | Dibblah: | Does MythTivo actually still work? |
| [21:24:49] | sphery: | paladine: and fix any parts that might need to be different on your system (i.e. paths, new/different cmd-line args etc.) |
| [21:24:53] | jams: | os driver I don't know. the card type is analog v4l capture card |
| [21:24:56] | scsponger: | hmmm.... |
| [21:25:05] | paladine: | EXECTV xawtv -f -device %s -dspdev %s -vbidev %s |
| [21:25:08] | paladine: | thats whats in there |
| [21:25:22] | sphery: | Never used xawtv, so I don't know if that will work with current versions. |
| [21:25:28] | sphery: | Worth a try. |
| [21:25:36] | sphery: | Worst case, you just have to edit it after it fails |
| [21:25:41] | paladine: | will that use svideo? |
| [21:25:41] | scsponger: | jams – I think you may have pinpointed the problem... let me get back to you in a sec |
| [21:25:47] | paladine: | or will it try to use a tuner? |
| [21:26:12] | sphery: | probably have to either configure xawtv or have a script configure your card before you call xawtv... |
| [21:26:30] | paladine: | yeah i will look into it |
| [21:26:54] | paladine: | can you still hit R if you are watching something in xawtv through mythtv? |
| [21:26:57] | sphery: | Try running xawtv from the command line and see what you have to pass to it |
| [21:27:01] | sphery: | Nope. |
| [21:27:15] | sphery: | In xawtv, you lose /all/ MythTV functionality (since you're not using MythTV ;) |
| [21:27:32] | paladine: | yeah I figured as much was hoping for a bit of magic ;) |
| [21:27:56] | sphery: | So, if you decide you want something, you can exit xawtv, then go into LiveTV and record or schedule a manual recording. |
| [21:28:11] | paladine: | yeah |
| [21:28:43] | sphery: | Note, also, that if you get your grabber working, you can use Myth to schedule things and as long as you remember to manually change the channels for things, it will record them for you into appropriately-named recordings |
| [21:29:16] | sphery: | Even though you only have one channel working, you can pretend you have multiple (just use the /bin/true that we set up for your channel change script and Myth always thinks the channel change worked) |
| [21:29:33] | paladine: | yeah |
| [21:29:36] | sphery: | That's how I would use it until I got my IR transmitter/blaster |
| [21:29:50] | paladine: | I will use IR blaster once I am comptus mentus enough to figure it out lol |
| [21:29:55] | paladine: | no chance on these meds though |
| [21:31:09] | sphery: | Oh, and it's possible the issue I though was causing problems is still causing the problems. One of the devs is actually looking at that right now. |
| [21:31:36] | sphery: | So, if things don't work in LiveTV after the changes we made, I recommend using manual recordings or xawtv (as appropriate) |
| [21:31:52] | sphery: | and updating to the newest version of -fixes (with the patch you currently have) |
| [21:31:55] | sphery: | in a couple of days |
| [21:32:33] | paladine: | ok, hey thanks a lot for all your time on this |
| [21:32:42] | sphery: | welcome. |
| [21:32:46] | sphery: | enjoy Myth |
| [21:33:01] | paladine: | its a great suite |
| [21:33:06] | paladine: | very impressed |
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| [21:33:38] | paladine: | I expected a lot more issues with me using a stb with encrypted channels |
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| [21:39:54] | sphery: | paladine: try changing your external channel change script to "sleep 5" |
| [21:39:58] | sphery: | Might just fix it. |
| [21:40:12] | paladine: | instead of /bin/true |
| [21:40:15] | sphery: | yep |
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| [21:40:29] | paladine: | k will try that too |
| [21:40:31] | sphery: | might have to be /bin/sleep 5 |
| [21:41:10] | paladine: | k |
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| [21:43:12] | fryfrog: | groogs: imagine if you are trying to play an xbox hooked up to *mythtv* which lags behind game play by about 1–2 sec |
| [21:43:26] | fryfrog: | groogs: you see baddie approaching, but he is actually 1–2 sec closer |
| [21:43:28] | fryfrog: | etc, etc |
| [21:43:32] | groogs: | yeah i understand now |
| [21:43:39] | groogs: | didnt really think about doing that |
| [21:43:42] | fryfrog: | hehe |
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| [21:44:03] | groogs: | would be cool to be able to rewind and see how you got shot though :p |
| [21:44:08] | fryfrog: | hehe |
| [21:44:51] | groogs: | but yeah, due to the way myth works it's basically impossible to have no delay :p |
| [21:45:21] | groogs: | well, until we have 30Ghz processors and you use your 2TB of ram as the disk buffer |
| [21:45:28] | fryfrog: | who'd do it anyway :) |
| [21:45:43] | kormoc: | in theory, with a bttv card, doing dma direct to the video card, you can have ultra low lag, and myth can still record from it too |
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| [21:46:51] | groogs: | actually you could probably use a ram disk now for recording live, couldn't you? |
| [21:50:51] | psofa: | can someone recommend me a nice recent trunk revision thats relatively stable? |
| [21:51:53] | sphery: | groogs: LiveTV is recorded into the same directory as other recordings in Myth. |
| [21:52:08] | psofa: | ok i ll just get the latest :/ |
| [21:52:19] | LLyric: | Thanks sphery (just got up, read your previous comments) |
| [21:52:42] | sphery: | But, if you want to record so you can see what's happening, you could split the output to go to the Myth box and directly to the TV. |
| [21:53:05] | sphery: | LLyric: Yeah. That thread is a very long one--and it's the one being used to work the soft padding branch. |
| [21:53:16] | sphery: | It's still in progress (the thread and the branch) |
| [21:53:48] | LLyric: | I checked out the branch, am looking at it now. |
| [21:53:52] | sphery: | But, there are still many issues (and they seem to be leaning toward simplifying things down to be more like the current implementation--i.e. with no partial padding) |
| [21:54:16] | sphery: | I don't think it's been updated in a long time, so I don't know if you'd actually want to run it on a production box. |
| [21:54:23] | LLyric: | Partial padding is a bit hacky. I don't see why the simple solution shouldn't work 90% of the time |
| [21:54:24] | sphery: | Might be better off applying patches to trunk. |
| [21:54:30] | sphery: | Yeah. |
| [21:54:38] | LLyric: | sphery: it looks like it was just updated in the last couple of days, from head |
| [21:54:44] | sphery: | Oh. Cool. |
| [21:55:07] | sphery: | Although, the best solution is just to have enough cards for your recording needs. |
| [21:55:18] | LLyric: | I do have enough, it's just not using them! :) |
| [21:55:40] | LLyric: | Because of the way the pre/post (doesn't) affects scheduling |
| [21:55:58] | sphery: | That's because you didn't tell it to (with start early/end late--you used the settings to add seconds for allowing your capture card to start up) |
| [21:56:01] | sphery: | :) |
| [21:56:33] | LLyric: | Heh. Hopefully softpad will get into head. I don't see any *downside* right |
| [21:56:34] | LLyric: | ? |
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| [21:56:59] | sphery: | True. Although, it will be completely disabled on my system. |
| [21:57:21] | LLyric: | Anyway, I'm off to the motogp again. |
| [21:57:27] | sphery: | later |
| [21:57:32] | the-pred: | guys was wondering if the newest release of Mythtv has a season pass option, for recording first runs only? |
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| [21:58:25] | the-pred: | no one know |
| [21:58:55] | jams: | the-pred- yes it does |
| [21:59:29] | the-pred: | jams so pretty close t tivo? when set up with a dual tuner card? |
| [21:59:32] | jams: | adjust your duplicate recording options |
| [22:00:08] | jams: | the-pred- have not used tivo in 2 years, so I cant say one way or the other |
| [22:00:20] | the-pred: | does ati make a dual tuner card yet? |
| [22:00:25] | jams: | might even be longer then 2 years |
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| [22:00:30] | paladine: | sphery, /bin/sleep 5 still didn't fix it |
| [22:01:47] | the-pred: | all i caould find was a dual tuner HD card from ATI, whch is not what i want, i want dual tuner for Cable? tuner |
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| [22:09:16] | paladine: | sphery, I have it set on manual record at the moment but it says I need to use the playback option to watch it and I don't have that in my menu? |
| [22:11:57] | Juski: | the-pred: don't hold your breath for an ati tuner which works in linux. not recent ones anyway |
| [22:12:36] | gardengnome: | !trout Juski |
| [22:12:36] | ** MythLogBot slaps Juski with a trout on behalf of gardengnome... ** | |
| [22:12:57] | Juski: | gardengnome: .. you not got any homework or something? :-P |
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| [22:15:29] | gardengnome: | Juski: course i do, but the ubuntu wiki is more interesting at the moment :) |
| [22:16:03] | Juski: | lol |
| [22:16:43] | paladine: | how do I watch something that is currently recording? |
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| [22:16:54] | Sebulba02: | homework on a friday? it can wait til sunday! |
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| [22:18:28] | halcyon: | paladine: go to media library -> watch recordings |
| [22:19:08] | paladine: | it isn't appearing in the list |
| [22:19:22] | paladine: | the previous recording is |
| [22:19:27] | paladine: | but not the current one |
| [22:20:31] | halcyon: | oh, but it IS recording? |
| [22:20:40] | paladine: | yeah |
| [22:20:56] | paladine: | currently at 630MB |
| [22:21:01] | halcyon: | do you have any filters or antying on the watch recordings screen? |
| [22:22:32] | paladine: | yeah it was a filter, thanks man |
| [22:24:18] | Juski: | right enough video editing for one night |
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| [22:24:35] | Juski: | been a hell of a day, packing boxen & being a gopher |
| [22:24:43] | Juski: | g'night all |
| [22:25:10] | gardengnome: | yep, bye. going to bed, too |
| [22:25:51] | claybo: | Hey everyone. I just upgraded to 0.20, and all seems to work very well so far, except for MythDVD's internal player. It will start playing DVDs for me, but they immediately skip forward a bit and then they will freeze (but I can ESC back to the main MythDVD menu). Is this a known issue? Any known solutions? Thanks! |
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| [22:27:03] | scott_: | i'll try not to be a dumbass |
| [22:28:38] | halcyon: | hehe my brother had that problem once (built him a myth box a few months ago) "Um... I lost a few months of recordings and only have Family Guy." Totally forgot about filters :D |
| [22:29:30] | halcyon: | I found it weird that the filter set in Watch Recordings also applied to Delete Recordings, and Previous Recordings.. |
| [22:29:46] | paladine: | :) |
| [22:30:45] | halcyon: | have you gotten anywhere on prebuffer pauses paladine? |
| [22:31:18] | paladine: | not with livetv |
| [22:31:25] | paladine: | seeing it manual recordings do it |
| [22:42:40] | claybo: | Okay, I just narrowed down my problem. MythDVD isn't working when I have xvmc enabled. Is this a known issue? |
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| [22:47:32] | metalac: | so using internal DVD player from 0.20 the DVD i'm trying to watch stutters like nuts |
| [22:47:34] | metalac: | any clues? |
| [22:47:43] | metalac: | it does it from begining |
| [22:48:40] | metalac: | and cpu usage is less than 20% |
| [22:49:18] | paladine: | halcyon, its seems to be ok if I set it to manual record for like 5 hours and then watch the recording, but of course it makes browsing difficult because of the recording delay |
| [22:49:59] | paladine: | but sphery said someone is looking at the issue so hopefully it will get fixed in the next couple of days |
| [22:50:40] | metalac: | claybo: is it not working or you're having stuttering like me? |
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| [22:53:01] | paladine: | halcyon, SkyTV has a personal planner built into the STB so tomorrow I will try and schedule my entire day in the personal planner and then setup a manual recording schedule around my personal planner |
| [22:53:16] | paladine: | the personal planner will change to the correct channel automatically |
| [22:54:45] | metalac: | claybo: i just turned off xvmc and mine is working just fine now |
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| [23:05:59] | claybo: | metalac, mine hardly works. It starts up, and then skips through some menus until freezing somewhere. |
| [23:06:13] | claybo: | I had one DVD I managed to skip through to some video, and it stuttered horribly. |
| [23:07:24] | metalac: | well mine plays but it stutters really bad, and then i get a black screen out of nowhere |
| [23:10:02] | adante: | i notice after i run mythbackend for a few weeks, virtual memory hops up to a couple of gig |
| [23:10:25] | adante: | quick restart fixes it, but just wondering if anybody else experienced this? |
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| [23:25:52] | Honk^away: | is there any way (apart from gatos) to get tv-out on a radeon 7000 working? |
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| [23:37:18] | kormoc: | negative |
| [23:37:46] | ** simcop2387 refuses to upgrade my nvidia card until they put xv picture controls back in ** | |
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| [23:44:08] | Honk^away: | errh.. i got it running using the vesa drivers though :P |
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| [23:44:40] | Honk^away: | just had to sacrifice my normal screen =) |
| [23:45:57] | Honk^away: | too bad mythtv is using software for video output |
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