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Thursday, September 7th, 2006, 00:03 UTC
[00:03:08] kormoc: pushpop-, synergy
[00:03:19] kormoc: http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/
[00:03:44] madfactor: Thanks guys.
[00:03:46] madfactor: :)
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[00:05:50] pushpop-: kormoc, great thank you. Exactly what I was looking for.
[00:06:02] kormoc: your welcome
[00:06:20] Speedy2: kormoc: Thanks, I didn't know about this either.
[00:06:21] pushpop-: 1 other question, do you think a 1.6ghz P4 with a Geforce MX 200 will be enough for a front end?
[00:06:24] Speedy2: What does it offer over VNC though?
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[00:06:49] Juski: GreyFoxx: you still want a video of the xbmc gui adjustment thang?
[00:06:58] pushpop-: And there will be HDTV involved.
[00:07:25] Speedy2: pushpop-: If you use XvMC you can do HDTV with a low-end CPU. Not sure if the MX200 will do XvMC @ HDTV resolutions.
[00:07:47] pushpop-: =/
[00:07:55] Juski: pushpop-: doubtful the mx200 will be beefy enough
[00:07:56] pushpop-: what about a Geforce 3 Ti 500
[00:07:59] Speedy2: pushpop-: That's an AGP motherboard? You can get piss-cheap AGP video cards.
[00:08:10] Speedy2: pushpop-: An nVidia MX4000 is like $30
[00:08:20] Juski: pushpop-: minimum GF4 required for HD XvMC
[00:08:32] pushpop-: ok thats what I thought
[00:08:47] pushpop-: even a geforce 3 ti 500 which was 300 dollars 4 years ago =P
[00:09:05] Speedy2: I have a Ti4600 which was top-dog in it's day...now it's nothing.
[00:09:18] pushpop-: Ya I hear ya.
[00:09:27] pushpop-: ti 500 was the card before the ti600
[00:09:33] pushpop-: ti4600*
[00:09:37] Juski:
[00:09:52] pushpop-: haha
[00:10:06] Speedy2: pushpop-: I'd suggest an nV MX4000 or FX5200. The cards that are newer do not have "overlay" support which is a PITA to deal with sometimes.
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[00:10:45] pushpop-: Got cha, I also have a dell optiplex sitting in the junk pile with a 2.6ghz p4 it would be intel chipset based graphics what about that?
[00:11:10] Speedy2: Heh. Their XvMC does only a small amount of the work compared to what a new nVidia card will do.
[00:11:20] Speedy2: pushpop-: Are you in the US?
[00:11:30] pushpop-: Ya,
[00:11:34] pushpop-: I know im being cheap
[00:11:42] pushpop-: just have a bunch of shit lying around
[00:11:53] Speedy2: I wish my MB had AGP :/
[00:15:16] knoppMythNewbie: Can anyone tell me how to select from two DVD drives on my myth box?
[00:15:17] mchou: Speedy2: lol
[00:16:12] mchou: knoppMythNewbie: simple. /dev/hd(x)
[00:16:44] mchou: where (x) is the appriate letter corresponding to the drive you wish to use
[00:16:54] mchou: appropriate*
[00:17:55] knoppMythNewbie: Um... in mythTV, the import and play don't offer a list of devices, I can't find an option in any selection function to pick one. I know that /dev/whatever is the DVD drive, but how do I get to pick one when I import?
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[00:19:08] mchou: knoppMythNewbie: huh??
[00:20:00] mchou: knoppMythNewbie: Util/Setup->Setup->Media Settings->DVD Settings
[00:20:16] mchou: knoppMythNewbie: what's the big deal?
[00:20:47] Aid`: I am using FTA satellite for my mythtv setup. It has about 10 stations i would like to record. I can goto zap2it and get the program guides but the video source each only has 1 channel per location. How can i add multiple locations?
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[00:36:53] madfactor: is it best not to transcode at all?
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[00:42:25] minor: thank you for the previous advice, it got me moving, now I have a second issue
[00:43:09] minor: when attempting to load mythweb page, i recieve this error: Undefined index: PATH_INFO in /srv/www/htdocs/mythweb/includes/init.php on line 37
[00:43:26] minor: any suggestions what may be causing that?
[00:47:44] evilDagmar: Not being configured.
[00:48:54] minor: I've followed the instructions provided and have revised the config files, I'm not sure what else to configure
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[00:54:27] minor: got it, the answer was at the wiki, rather than the installation instructions... I had to change directory permissions
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[00:59:36] minor: thank you folks .. see you later
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[01:03:13] kash: hmm
[01:03:22] kash: mythtv segfaults via libnvidia-tls.so
[01:07:18] knoppMythNewbie: mchou: I've found location of DVD Device: which is /dev/dvd... so I'm guessing I can't set up two. But I'm also guessing I could mount either of the devices as /dev/dvd, or something like that.
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[01:10:10] bocaJ: is there any way to change the brightness/contrast/hue/saturation settings while watching TV in mythTV?
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[01:35:17] bocaJ: how do I change the brightness/contrast/hue/saturation settings in MythTV?
[01:36:49] kormoc: bocaJ, check the file that lists what all the keys do?
[01:37:18] bocaJ: I looked through the frontend config and didn't see it :/
[01:38:52] kormoc: bocaJ, http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/mythtv/keys.txt
[01:38:56] kormoc: bocaJ, line 39
[01:39:02] bocaJ: sweet!
[01:39:13] kormoc: like I said, read the file that tells you what all the keys do...
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[01:46:11] gordonjl: folks, please tolerate a newbie. This is a vanilla question. I want to set up a mythtv-based PVR, but I don't want to spend the cashola even for basic cable. Without paying dime one to my cable company, I'm getting 70+ channels, all the ones I want. I don't have a set top box, however. Is it possible to setup a mythtv box without using a set top box? Can I just plug a coax into some...
[01:46:13] gordonjl: ...hardware card on the mythtv machine? What can I do?
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[01:47:07] kormoc: gordonjl, yes, you can plug coax into a tv card, such as the pvr 150/500 or similar
[01:47:31] kormoc: it's the same as pluging coax into your tv
[01:48:08] gordonjl: that's great news, indeed. Will the remote that comes with the card take care of channel switching?
[01:48:23] kormoc: it can, if you set it up right
[01:48:32] kormoc: which can be a lot of pain and suffering
[01:51:51] gordonjl: I'm wondering if I can avoid the hardware config nightmare by just sucking it up and buying a pvr from a vendor
[01:52:12] gordonjl: slashdot had an article about a "silent" pvr machine for $560. 400GB hard drive, etc
[01:52:14] gordonjl: http://www.linuxtechtoys.com/ltt/product_info . . . ducts_id/237
[01:52:19] evilDagmar: Well, then you wouldn't be *our* problem anymore
[01:52:46] gordonjl: evilDagmar: I don't want to be anyone's problem ;). I just wanna skip ads :D
[01:52:55] evilDagmar: Then just buy a TiVo
[01:53:05] gordonjl: evilDagmar: now you're being plain mean!
[01:53:15] evilDagmar: No, I'm not.
[01:53:20] evilDagmar: You said you just want to skip ads.
[01:53:37] evilDagmar: If you just want to skip ads, but a TiVo.
[01:53:50] Speedy2: gordonjl: If it involves Linux, it involves pain.
[01:53:55] gordonjl: I've put together machines before and I don't want to spend the time to do it. Tivo is a dissapointment for a variety or reasons, I feel mythtv is a better route
[01:53:58] Speedy2: gordonjl: Windows is a different kind of pain.
[01:54:00] evilDagmar: MythTV's version number starts with zero. That's supposed to be a strong hint that using it will *not* be easy
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[01:54:29] gordonjl: so, the pre-build boxes are a snare and a delusion?
[01:54:35] evilDagmar: ...meaning you're going to be spending a great deal of time reading documentation, troubleshooting problems, etc.
[01:54:48] evilDagmar: Pfft. Hardware issues are easily solved
[01:54:59] kormoc: gordonjl, they work well, it's just... it's linux
[01:55:14] kormoc: gordonjl, I've spent many many many hours keeping my mythbox running happy
[01:55:21] kormoc: gordonjl, and I haven't had many issues
[01:55:29] evilDagmar: MythTV is not for people who "just wanna watch TV" yet
[01:55:38] gordonjl: my experience with linux is FC3–5. I rely on yum for the most part
[01:55:40] kormoc: people new to linux tend to spend weeks before they get it working, and then it tends to break soon after
[01:56:14] kormoc: gordonjl, you'll need to admin a mysql install, keeping that happy can be a chore at times, as well as the mythtv deamon, and of course X and friends
[01:56:23] gordonjl: well, I'm a software developer, M$, J2EE. I set up linux servers, prefer Mac os x....and I floss every day
[01:56:32] kormoc: not saying it's that hard, but it's a lot to do if you're not used to it
[01:56:59] gordonjl: I don't do a ton of admin stuff on mysql, just backups and the like
[01:57:07] kormoc: well, if you're that knowledgeable, what are you doing in here asking simple questions when google knows them all? :P
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[01:57:34] gordonjl: 'cause I'm not a whiz-bang kinda guy with hardware stuff, especially video cards
[01:57:40] kormoc: heh
[01:57:49] kormoc: the pvr's website tells you all about the card
[01:57:50] gordonjl: the last time I looked into video cards was with the Voodoo3000 card to play Quake Arena
[01:57:50] ** kormoc shrugs **
[01:57:57] kormoc: tv cards != video cards
[01:57:59] ** kormoc shrugs **
[01:57:59] Speedy2: gordonjl: If you have semi-old hardware, it will probably work. nVidia FX5200 is a good video card...
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[01:59:25] gordonjl: so, software issues like mysql maintenance aside, do you think I could plug a coax into this box and be happy? http://www.linuxtechtoys.com/ltt/product_info . . . ducts_id/237
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[02:03:55] robbins876: how can i tell if my files are being transcoded or not?
[02:05:18] gordonjl: Speedy2: kormoc: thanks for you advice. I appreciate it.
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[02:08:19] Aid`: robbins876: goto System STatus -> Job queue
[02:08:51] hobophobe: As far as using a rs232(db9) cable goes, is there a specific version of the serial cable needed? Can I use a null modem adapter on a f/f or m/m to achieve the same use/etc.?
[02:09:23] Pryon: robbins876: You might also look in the log for the backend
[02:10:08] hobophobe: Or should I go with a usb->rs232, or what would be the best way?
[02:15:55] hobophobe: Or am I just talking nonsense?
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[02:18:39] ** Pryon wonders what the heck codec 94210 is **
[02:19:52] hobophobe: let me guess, "parser not found?"
[02:21:03] hobophobe: (at least, that's what the hits on google show it relating to)
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[02:22:40] pipedream: Why would my "LiveTv" recordings be auto-expiring immediately? New install with 140 gigs of free space
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[02:23:25] pipedream: My understanding is that either the root partition is being used (ex2/ext3) used as base install
[02:23:48] pipedream: Or, that I have two copies of the mythconverge database on my system.
[02:27:23] Pryon: hobophobe: yeah. And those seem to be the *only* hits.
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[02:30:01] huggy: is there a web frontend to the mythtvsetup?
[02:31:07] GreyFoxx: nope
[02:31:24] GreyFoxx: certain items are available in mythweb but most are not
[02:31:37] pipedream: How can I test to see if I have to databases named "mythconverge"?
[02:31:45] hobophobe: Dang I need to get a regular db9 cable m/f
[02:31:50] pipedream: *two
[02:31:59] huggy: dang and ty
[02:32:40] radi0head: Anyone knows when 0.19.1 is going to be released? Or maybe an estimation?
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[02:33:31] qwertyfdsa: hi
[02:33:32] GreyFoxx: radi0head: it wont be
[02:33:48] radi0head: GreyFoxx; You mean 0.20 is going to be the next release?
[02:33:51] GreyFoxx: yup
[02:33:54] radi0head: Nice!
[02:34:03] radi0head: Can wait for that!
[02:34:06] GreyFoxx: if all goes well this weekend, but we'll see
[02:34:14] radi0head: Oh my god yes!
[02:34:19] pipedream: Can anyone please help a newbie out?
[02:34:30] qwertyfdsa: can anyone think of a reason why I'm able to change channels when in "Watch TV" on my pvr250 but it doesn't change the channel when recording? (only started happening recently, worked fine for a long time before)
[02:35:24] qwertyfdsa: pipedream: what do you need help with?
[02:35:29] radi0head: pipedream; Don't ask to asl, just ask.
[02:35:46] hobophobe: pipedream, hmm, do you know what the databases are stored in or something?
[02:36:02] hobophobe: He's trying to find out if he has two 'mythconverge' databases
[02:36:15] pipedream: I want to figure out why my livetv recordings are auto-expiring, it is not set to auto expire anything
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[02:36:50] qwertyfdsa: pipedream: i had that exact problem, let me think to see if i can remember
[02:36:53] qwertyfdsa: the cause
[02:37:03] qwertyfdsa: i changed a seemingly unrelated setting
[02:37:28] qwertyfdsa: pipedream: are you relatively low on disk space?
[02:37:48] pipedream: hobophobe: I'm not sure what the databases are stored in it is one system with a combined front/backend
[02:38:41] pipedream: qwertyfdsa: I don't think I'm low on disk space, new install, folder (/home/mythtv/recordings) says I have 140 Gigs of free space.
[02:39:33] qwertyfdsa: what's your "extra disk space (in gigabytes)" setting? (tv settings->general)
[02:40:02] qwertyfdsa: (note, i may be completely on the wrong track here, so please listen to other people helping you too )
[02:40:50] pipedream: qwertyfdsa: 1 Gig in the extra disk space
[02:40:59] qwertyfdsa: hmm no ide then
[02:41:01] qwertyfdsa: idea
[02:41:20] qwertyfdsa: let me describe the problem i had in case it gives anyone ideas (this was a long time ago)
[02:41:24] pipedream: thanks for your input, I appreciate it.
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[02:41:59] qwertyfdsa: i upgraded mythtv and around the same time disabled auto-expire in settings (i hadn't previously been using auto-expire either since no programs were set to do so)
[02:42:05] ShockValue: in this statement, which is the machine name, and which is the username? "grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"%" identified by "mythtv";"
[02:42:16] qwertyfdsa: and also my extra disk space setting is 0
[02:42:38] qwertyfdsa: ShockValue: the % is the machine name i believe (not sure)
[02:42:47] pipedream: qwertyfdsa: is that what it is currently set at? Zero?
[02:42:52] ShockValue: ah ok
[02:43:11] ShockValue: so that basically grats full permission to anyone named "mythtv" on any box?
[02:43:34] qwertyfdsa: ShockValue: if they know the password "mythtv"
[02:44:29] qwertyfdsa: pipedream: yes... anyways apparently there was something hardcoded in the new version that made it blow up if those 2 settings were set like that (i don't remember exactly what)
[02:44:39] pipedream: I read on the mail archives that someone else was having this problem, but it wasn't resolved. Someone though maybe the recordings were eating into the root partition.
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[02:45:05] qwertyfdsa: well it still shouldn't expire them unless you have it set to
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[02:45:22] pipedream: I will try zero there and test it.
[02:45:31] qwertyfdsa: w/ my current setup i often run out of disk space and it just stops recording and starts erroring like crazy
[02:45:53] robbins876: if i buy a new harddrive, how hard will it be to tell myth to dump the shit to the new drive?
[02:46:05] qwertyfdsa: you can try, but the more i think of it, i dont think the issue i had is related to yours, so i doubt it'll work
[02:46:15] ShockValue: just chage the path in the setup
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[02:46:45] qwertyfdsa: robbins876: yeah, unless you want to use both drives for myth, which gets more complicated
[02:47:25] robbins876: i would just use the one, i think...
[02:47:33] robbins876: how hard is it to install a new drive in linux? never done that before
[02:47:42] Pryon: quite easy
[02:47:48] sigger_: can anyone comment on whether (generally) SATA drives are louder or quieter than PATA?
[02:48:02] evilDagmar: Man, why are there more n00b questions in here than ##Linux
[02:48:22] robbins876: because i know there's smart pepole in here that will answer my questions
[02:48:27] robbins876: people
[02:48:31] qwertyfdsa: evilDagmar: its a "total mythtv experience (tm)" :)
[02:48:33] evilDagmar: Ah...
[02:48:33] pipedream: okay, tried 0 as extra disk space, then went into Media Recordings and the livetv has a RIP at the bottom of the screen, I restarted Mythfrontend and it is now gone.
[02:48:45] robbins876: rather than talk about the "n00b" questions in the channel
[02:48:47] Pryon: robbins876: pop it in, linux should just see it (look in dmesg output). Use fdisk to partition (really easy if you just want to use the whole drive for a single partition). Create a filesystem in your new partition. Make an entry in fstab. Bob's your uncle.
[02:48:50] evilDagmar: Now that we've cleared up that you're a noob abusing a help channel, I'll go ahead and put you in the ignore list
[02:48:58] evilDagmar: Damn lamers
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[02:49:09] robbins876: right...
[02:49:37] evilDagmar: There are channels for people who don't know how to wipe with Linux.
[02:49:40] Pryon: there are probably pointy clicky things that handle the partitioning and filesystem making
[02:49:40] evilDagmar: This isn't one.
[02:50:17] robbins876: evilDagmar> thanks for the update, tom brokaw... any other hot news while you're around?