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| [00:04:20] | Juski: | nifty! |
| [00:04:32] | Juski: | I'll have some of that please :) |
| [00:04:51] | Juski: | would it still be 6 secs with like 150 channels? |
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| [00:12:08] | pushpop: | =D |
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| [00:12:17] | jchadwick: | I am getting the "QSqlQuery::exec: database not open" error when attempting to start mythbackend... |
| [00:12:27] | jchadwick: | QT has mythtv support compiled – I even recompiled it for good measure |
| [00:12:37] | Kelerion: | install libqt3-mysql or whatever it's called |
| [00:12:39] | jchadwick: | This is under Gentoo, AMD64 |
| [00:12:42] | Juski: | what Kelerion said in the other channel dude |
| [00:13:02] | jchadwick: | I don't have a libqt3-mysql package in Gentoo. |
| [00:13:12] | jchadwick: | Gentoo handled all of the dependancies, supposedly |
| [00:13:13] | ** Juski checks himself. yes he just said 'dude' :-O ** | |
| [00:13:20] | ** Kelerion laughs ** | |
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| [00:13:37] | Kelerion: | you'll be saying "wasssup!" next :P |
| [00:13:44] | Juski: | jchadwick: is mysql in your USE flags? mythtv should've pulled it in but check |
| [00:13:53] | janneg: | jchadwick: emerge qt-3 with USE=mysql |
| [00:14:00] | ** Kelerion doesn't use gentoo ** | |
| [00:14:07] | Juski: | I try not to |
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| [00:14:34] | Kelerion: | to the extent I can only even *guess* what a "use" flag is.. lol |
| [00:17:05] | jchadwick: | janneg: yes, it is |
| [00:17:39] | jchadwick: | I have both QT 3 & 4 installed... both with MySQL support |
| [00:17:55] | jchadwick: | Is there a way to tell if it's trying to use QT4? |
| [00:18:04] | Juski: | ldd ? |
| [00:18:41] | Kelerion: | is mysql actually running and does it have the mythconverg db there? |
| [00:19:00] | jchadwick: | Yeah, 3 |
| [00:19:17] | jchadwick: | Kelerion: yes. mysql 5... that shouldn't be a problem, right? |
| [00:19:33] | Kelerion: | running 19-fixes or svn? |
| [00:20:20] | jchadwick: | Kelerion: Yes. Package version is 0.19_p9163-r1... whatever that means |
| [00:20:34] | jchadwick: | Gentoo package, that is |
| [00:20:58] | Kelerion: | Juski, does that include the -fixes stuff? |
| [00:21:05] | janneg: | jchadwick: is the mysql server local? if not, is networking enabled and does it listen on the correct ip? |
| [00:21:23] | jchadwick: | janneg: it's local, and I can connect with the mythtv user |
| [00:21:29] | jchadwick: | manually |
| [00:22:02] | Juski: | Kelerion: yeah I think so |
| [00:22:20] | janneg: | Kelerion: yes, that's 0.19-fixes revision 9163 with some patches |
| [00:22:54] | Kelerion: | ahh ok |
| [00:23:05] | janneg: | jchadwick: mythtv-setup works? |
| [00:27:23] | jchadwick: | janneg: don't have an X server on this machine... I'm importing this install |
| [00:27:50] | jchadwick: | "importing this install" = new installation, copying the config and database |
| [00:29:36] | Kelerion: | and the .mythtv directory? |
| [00:29:57] | jchadwick: | Yes |
| [00:30:16] | Kelerion: | try posting the full startup log to pastebin |
| [00:31:05] | jchadwick: | k |
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| [00:36:15] | jchadwick: | pastebin's, being slow, but I think I found a suspect line: |
| [00:36:16] | jchadwick: | QSqlDatabase: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded |
| [00:36:16] | jchadwick: | QSqlDatabase: available drivers: |
| [00:37:05] | jchadwick: | no available drivers? |
| [00:37:43] | Agrajag-: | you need to do what Kelerion said in the first place |
| [00:38:08] | Agrajag-: | (you need qt mysql stuff) |
| [00:38:36] | Agrajag-: | if you're lucky you get to compile qt all over again, hoorah for gentoo! |
| [00:38:52] | Juski: | indeed. hoorah for gentoo! |
| [00:39:17] | jchadwick: | I did compile QT again... right before I asked on here. |
| [00:39:20] | jchadwick: | no good |
| [00:39:33] | Agrajag-: | not with mysql stuff |
| [00:39:41] | Juski: | maybe having 2 versions of Qt is the problem |
| [00:39:46] | jchadwick: | yes, with mysql stuff |
| [00:40:00] | jchadwick: | Juski: that's what I'm thinking... but ldd says it's pointing to 3. |
| [00:40:01] | Agrajag-: | jchadwick: well you have one version without it. that's what that error is telling you. |
| [00:40:34] | jchadwick: | Agrajag-: No – both versions were compiled with it. that's why this is so confusing. |
| [00:40:55] | Cardoe: | jchadwick: emerge -pv =x11-libs/qt-3* |
| [00:40:58] | Cardoe: | paste that output here |
| [00:41:42] | jchadwick: | Calculating dependencies... done! |
| [00:41:42] | jchadwick: | [ebuild R ] x11-libs/qt-3.3.6-r1 USE="cups gif ipv6 mysql opengl xinerama -debug -doc -examples (-firebird) -immqt -immqt-bc -nas -nis -odbc -postgres -sqlite" 14,224 kB |
| [00:41:45] | jchadwick: | Total size of downloads: 14,224 kB |
| [00:42:24] | Cardoe: | emerge --oneshot =x11-libs/qt-3* |
| [00:42:27] | Cardoe: | that'll fix it |
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| [00:43:42] | Kelerion: | huh? wha? I actually got something right?? woohoo!! *chuckle* |
| [00:44:02] | CruzBullit: | hey everybody, got kind of a strange problem, I have myth setup, everythings is working execpt the sound is mono, I've played with alsamixer but I can't figure out the problem. Any ideas? |
| [00:45:25] | CruzBullit: | I have it setup so aux is muted but is recorded by the main output, if I unmute aux it's in stereo |
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| [00:49:57] | Juski: | oo I just read on someone's blog that the mythtv stand at LRL was 'impressive'. god wait til they see the next one |
| [00:50:10] | ** Kelerion laughs ** | |
| [00:50:28] | Kelerion: | pity there weren't more photo's... but sounds like you had your hands full :) |
| [00:51:23] | Juski: | photos of what? geeks looking at a bunch of pcs running mythtv? you're havin a larf... ;) |
| [00:52:06] | Juski: | there might've been video of me 'dancing' at the saturday night party had I not been so careful to do it while nobody was looking |
| [00:54:13] | Juski: | eep! almost 2am.. I reckon it's time for bed. g'night |
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| [00:56:31] | Kelerion: | g'night :) cya tomorrow :) |
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| [01:13:17] | jchadwick: | Ok, fixed my database connection problem, now on to a schema update problem... |
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| [01:16:19] | CruzBullit: | no ideas for my problem? |
| [01:16:26] | jchadwick: | http://rafb.net/paste/results/IrwVG942.html |
| [01:16:33] | DrMitch: | so i have alsa working with mpg321, i have audio output device set to ALSA:default and i have the mixer device set to default but i get no sound from live tv. any clue why? |
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| [02:29:00] | digi_: | hey, i'm pretty new to the whole PVR world, so forgive me if this question has been asked before. I followed mythtv early during it's inception...then lost track. now I'm looking into converting my new desktop into a PVR box. Has anyone used sage tv for linux and how does mythtv compare? |
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| [02:35:31] | Anduin: | digi_: I'd expect very few people in this channel to have used SageTV recently |
| [02:38:04] | digi_: | hrm yea |
| [02:38:10] | digi_: | do you mind if I ask you a few questions? |
| [02:38:34] | digi_: | I'm pretty tech savvy, just trying to make sense of all the hardware, etc i need for this project |
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| [02:43:42] | Anduin: | digi_: Just ask, if someone can answer they often will. |
| [02:44:21] | digi_: | ok I just ordered a PVR-500MCE card last night from pcalchemy...was reading that alot of people use this with mythtv...will it work ok in a 64bit distro? |
| [02:45:23] | digi_: | also I have a geforce 7800GT...I should be able to use the TV-OUT on this card instead of buying a PVR-250/350 correct? |
| [02:45:24] | Anduin: | digi_: It should, and yes it is a common card. |
| [02:46:05] | nero: | digi_, fyi- the PVR-250 has no TV-out, only the PVR-350. |
| [02:46:15] | Anduin: | digi_: Yes, the 250 doesn't have a TV out, and the 350's TV out, well, I can't tell the difference between it and a very cheap nVidia card. |
| [02:47:16] | digi_: | so 7800GT for tv-out and a pvr-500mce should get me setup for a fully functioning pvr system? |
| [02:48:10] | Anduin: | digi_: Some remote probably, but otherwise yes, (assuming givens like, sound, hdd space) |
| [02:48:11] | nero: | IIRC the 7x00 series nv cards weren't working too well in linux.. but this was a few months ago, so things may have changed.. |
| [02:48:33] | digi_: | yes,remote is another thing |
| [02:48:38] | nero: | (or was that the higher 6000 series?) |
| [02:49:04] | digi_: | Ive been reading alot about using any 3rd party remote, but what do I need in order for mythtv or the OS in general to interpret the signals? |
| [02:49:12] | digi_: | do I need some kind of universal programmable IR receiver? |
| [02:49:19] | Anduin: | digi_: depends, lirc is common |
| [02:49:43] | digi_: | don't i still need a receiver? |
| [02:49:50] | Anduin: | digi_: Yes |
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| [02:52:11] | digi_: | any particular that's highly recommended to work well with mythtv? |
| [02:52:20] | digi_: | or linux in general... |
| [02:52:35] | Anduin: | digi_: There is no single receiver though, some people use MCE ones, others ATI, still others any of the various ones supported by lirc. |
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| [02:53:22] | nero: | digi_, if you have soldering skills any better than a 3 fingered monkey, it is trivial to make the DIY receiver that is on the LIRC website.. |
| [02:53:43] | digi_: | what about this USB-UIRT one for 25$? |
| [02:53:46] | nero: | (with about $4.00 worth of parts and 10 minutes) |
| [02:53:56] | digi_: | i don't want to solder...meh |
| [02:56:03] | nero: | shrug... any of them listed on the lirc site should work fine. Some use the irman, some use the USB-IR-Boy.. |
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| [02:57:23] | nero: | heck, if you happen to have a soundblaster card with a livedrive, they will work too. |
| [02:59:24] | digi_: | yea dont have that |
| [02:59:27] | digi_: | just an audigy |
| [02:59:34] | digi_: | i'm looking at this harmony 880 |
| [02:59:37] | digi_: | pricey, but looks badass |
| [02:59:45] | digi_: | think i'd spend extra just to make the wife happy |
| [02:59:58] | digi_: | doesn't look like that one comes with a receiver |
| [03:00:54] | nero: | digi_, I am not sure that any of the harmony receivers will work, unfortunately.. but the remote will, as long as you have a LIRC compatible receiver.. |
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| [03:01:37] | nero: | The one reason I tend to suggest the home-brew version, is it was designed specifically for lirc.. and is VERY simple to make, and only costs a couple bucks.. |
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| [03:01:58] | nero: | and yes, the WAF (wife acceptance factor) is VERY important to a happy Mythtv system ;) |
| [03:02:32] | digi_: | so do i have to use lirc, is this the only way to get a remote to work with mythtv? |
| [03:02:59] | nero: | no.. the other option is to get an ir keyboard, and a learning remote that can learn for every button.. |
| [03:03:13] | nero: | then you can teach the remote the keystrokes of the keyboard, and program it that way. |
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| [03:03:29] | Matrix9: | When you view the onscreen guide, is there anyway of seeing what the channel name is? they are centered and cutoff. |
| [03:03:32] | Anduin: | or the ATI one which has an X input driver |
| [03:03:52] | nero: | but, that doesnt always work, as some IR keyboards use a different IR frequency than most remotes can make. |
| [03:04:20] | nero: | ahhh yeah.. I forgot about that ATI remote.. |
| [03:04:51] | nero: | digi_, the other issue is if you have to control an external satalite/cable box via an IR blaster.. |
| [03:05:08] | nero: | if so, it makes sense just to go the lirc route, as you have to use lirc for the blaster anyway. |
| [03:06:20] | nero: | (but you are good to be weary of lirc- it can be one of the most difficult parts of the setup.. lirc can be a TOTAL pain.. but once you get it working right, it's great) |
| [03:07:30] | Matrix9: | Would of been nice if you pressed info it would display the channel name at least then i guess |
| [03:07:57] | GreyFoxx: | Matrix9: What are you seeing when you press Info ? |
| [03:08:25] | GreyFoxx: | Just the position/time ? |
| [03:10:20] | Matrix9: | GreyFoxx: On mine it says for Channel: Adding Channel 21? i'm trying to find what channel is discovery to see that steve irwin documentry |
| [03:10:34] | robbins876: | man, my internet has been so fucking slow all day long |
| [03:10:36] | robbins876: | it's unreal |
| [03:14:13] | digi_: | don't have an cable box or satellite |
| [03:14:24] | robbins876: | that's poor grammar |
| [03:14:34] | digi_: | don't have "a" cable box... |
| [03:14:41] | digi_: | sorry grammar police |
| [03:14:44] | robbins876: | good work. |
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| [03:59:32] | robbins87: | hola |
| [03:59:34] | robbins87: | again |
| [04:00:12] | robbins87: | whatever you do, do not buy a linksys WRT54G |
| [04:00:15] | robbins87: | piece of shit |
| [04:00:20] | robbins87: | complete and total |
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| [04:04:20] | CCFL_Man_: | robbins87: i have a wrt54g v5 with dd-wrt on it using it as an AP and it runs great |
| [04:05:13] | robbins87: | mine constantly crashes |
| [04:05:22] | robbins87: | and all day it has dropped my connection speed to a crawl |
| [04:05:31] | robbins87: | i just hooked up my old dlink router and i'm flying |
| [04:05:46] | robbins87: | i was at 332kbps with the linksys, now i'm pulling 7.6Mbps |
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| [04:17:57] | k-man_: | wow... only 6 items still outstanding in 0.20 |
| [04:18:27] | k-man_: | they got thrhough the last 20 or so pretty quick |
| [04:18:45] | Agrajag-: | i think a whole lot got moved to .21 |
| [04:18:56] | Anduin: | Only a few |
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| [04:19:13] | JohnQ: | where is that list? |
| [04:19:22] | Agrajag-: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/roadmap |
| [04:19:42] | k-man_: | ooh |
| [04:20:03] | k-man_: | ive been watching it |
| [04:20:10] | k-man_: | i wish there was a graph of it over time |
| [04:20:14] | k-man_: | it would be interesting to see |
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| [04:27:44] | robbins876: | so, it was a bitch installing .19, how hard will it be to upgrade to .20? |
| [04:28:21] | Agrajag-: | depends how stupid you are |
| [04:28:35] | k-man_: | hehe |
| [04:28:49] | k-man_: | judging by the question, probably fairly difficult ;) |
| [04:29:11] | robbins876: | will it just be a reinstall, basically? |
| [04:29:15] | robbins876: | i've never updated myth before |
| [04:29:35] | Gumby: | .19 was a breeze. echo "deb http://knm.org/mythdebs/ binary/" >> /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-get update && apt-get install mythtv |
| [04:29:37] | Gumby: | hehehe |
| [04:29:38] | k-man_: | .18 to .19 was so easy i hardly could believe it was done |
| [04:30:11] | k-man_: | it looked so exactly like .18 that i thought it hadn't worked until i looked at the version number in the fe |
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| [04:30:42] | robbins876: | sweet |
| [04:30:52] | robbins876: | i had a lot of driver issues when i was installing, that's what was so hard |
| [04:30:58] | k-man_: | yeah |
| [04:31:00] | robbins876: | and i'm new to linux, so that didn't help |
| [04:31:02] | mchou: | damn, new episode of House MD tonight. Yay!! |
| [04:31:04] | k-man_: | well, its not fair to blame that on myth |
| [04:31:22] | robbins876: | true |
| [04:31:24] | k-man_: | mchou, i found that show boring after 2 episodes |
| [04:31:29] | mchou: | new season started already...... |
| [04:31:32] | JohnQ: | mchou: Yep... just waiting for mine to finish transcoding before I watch it :-) |
| [04:31:46] | mchou: | k-man_: yo must have ADD |
| [04:31:50] | mchou: | you* |
| [04:31:58] | robbins876: | what does transcoding do? |
| [04:32:03] | [shodan]: | is there anything wrong with the hauppauge pvr-150 ? |
| [04:32:13] | k-man_: | no, i just found the stories were always the same |
| [04:32:15] | JohnQ: | robbins876: makes the files smaller. |
| [04:32:16] | mchou: | k-man_: House is a most lovable curmudgeon |
| [04:32:18] | k-man_: | maybe i should give it another chance |
| [04:32:30] | k-man_: | yes... it was a good idea |
| [04:32:41] | k-man_: | but just how many medical mysteries can one hospital havE? |
| [04:32:45] | JohnQ: | robbins876: Its CPU intensive.. so you cant do it in realtime as it records... but you can do it after.. to save space. |
| [04:32:53] | robbins876: | oh, i see |
| [04:32:59] | robbins876: | is there a way to set it to do it automatically? |
| [04:33:03] | robbins876: | what does it transcode to? |
| [04:33:04] | mchou: | k-man_: it's basically a medical analog of sherlock holmes. House resides on 221B Baker street |
| [04:33:04] | robbins876: | divx? |
| [04:33:14] | JohnQ: | yes, and mpeg4 |
| [04:33:22] | k-man_: | mchou, oh, interesting |
| [04:33:43] | mchou: | k-man_: lol, missed that "analogy," eh? |
| [04:33:53] | k-man_: | mchou, yeah, i did |
| [04:34:03] | k-man_: | does it make it better if you know that? |
| [04:34:04] | Gumby: | [shodan]: no there isnt |
| [04:34:07] | mchou: | k-man_: I was right about you having ADD :) |
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| [04:34:15] | k-man_: | do they follow the stories? like hounds of the baskerville? |
| [04:34:23] | mchou: | k-man_: you werent paying attention :) |
| [04:34:53] | mchou: | k-man_: House also has a roommate a la Watson |
| [04:35:01] | k-man_: | oh |
| [04:35:21] | Gumby: | OMG.. not a roomate!! I dont know anyone that has a roomate. lol. |
| [04:35:26] | mchou: | his Name is Wilson |
| [04:36:00] | mchou: | Gumby: he is roomate only by "circumstance," wife left him |
| [04:36:16] | Gumby: | mchou: I'd leave the grump also if I was his wife |
| [04:36:24] | [shodan]: | ah ok , just wondering .. I was told to get a pvr-250 because they "were so much better" but I can't find a reason why I should pay twice the price of a 150 just to get a mpeg1 encoder on top of the mpeg2 encoder ?! |
| [04:36:29] | mchou: | Wilson is not a grump |
| [04:36:43] | mchou: | Gumby: Wilson's wife left him |
| [04:36:44] | Gumby: | mchou: I thouht you were referring to House |
| [04:36:57] | mchou: | Wilson is House's roommate |
| [04:37:16] | Gumby: | yes, I follow that. |
| [04:37:53] | mchou: | k-man_: they dont follow Sherlock Holmes stories, though the similarities are definitely there |
| [04:38:21] | mchou: | House is addict to painkillers....Sherlock to heroin |
| [04:38:35] | mchou: | addicted* |
| [04:38:45] | Gumby: | anyone watch "The Contender"? I saw an episode last week (and it happens to be on again right now) and for the fight scenes they totally speed up the tape and then when there is a big punch they slow it down for ephasis. lol. its quite pathetic |
| [04:39:37] | mchou: | k-man_: House plays the piano, Sherlock plays the violin |
| [04:41:04] | Gumby: | I thought Holmes used cocaine |
| [04:41:32] | mchou: | cocaine/heroin, what's the diff :) |
| [04:42:54] | mchou: | Gumby: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroin_in_popular_culture |
| [04:43:06] | mchou: | Gumby: search for Sherlock |
| [04:45:03] | Gumby: | The Sherlock Holmes stories by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle (published from 1891 to 1927) describe the famous detective's use of another opiate, morphine, as well as the stimulant drug cocaine |
| [04:45:13] | Gumby: | that doesnt say he used heroin though |
| [04:45:49] | mchou: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherlock_Holmes |
| [04:46:05] | mchou: | "Holmes does have an ego that sometimes seems to border on arrogance; however, his arrogance is usually deserved. He seems to enjoy baffling the police inspectors with his superior deductions. He is shown to enjoy Watson's praise at times." |
| [04:46:22] | mchou: | Describes House to a T :) |
| [04:46:55] | mchou: | s/police inspectors/doctors |
| [04:47:09] | mchou: | s/Watson/Wilson |
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| [04:48:20] | k-man_: | your obsessed |
| [04:48:45] | mchou: | k-man_: no, I just dont have ADD |
| [04:50:20] | JohnQ: | homes ... house |
| [04:50:31] | mchou: | JohnQ: bingo! |
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| [04:51:30] | JohnQ: | how do you know where house lives? |
| [04:51:41] | robbins876: | i don't |
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| [04:51:57] | mchou: | Simple...look carefully when he steps outside his apartment |
| [04:52:03] | Gumby: | it aparantly showed his address when he leaves his house |
| [04:52:07] | mchou: | number on door is 221B |
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| [04:52:39] | JohnQ: | and the street name? |
| [04:53:01] | mchou: | JohnQ: in one shot they showed the street sign |
| [04:53:12] | JohnQ: | neat |
| [04:53:42] | mchou: | (that's like being hit over the head by a sledgehammer for American audiences with ADD) |
| [04:53:53] | bRuZdEGO: | in linux, how can I search every file on a system, for a particular line for phrase? |
| [04:54:10] | mchou: | JohnQ: who dont grok the parallels |
| [04:54:13] | xris: | bRuZdEGO: man grep |
| [04:54:46] | JohnQ: | bRuZdEGO: and probably: man find too |
| [04:54:59] | xris: | JohnQ: find finds files, not content |
| [04:55:15] | JohnQ: | and if you use -exec grep |
| [04:55:24] | Gumby: | mchou: just because someone didnt care for a show, regardless of its SHerlock Holmes parallels or not, doesnt mean they have anything close to ADD |
| [04:55:33] | JohnQ: | grep wont search recursively... find will. |
| [04:55:41] | Gumby: | JohnQ: grep -r |
| [04:55:41] | xris: | JohnQ: huh? |
| [04:55:48] | bRuZdEGO: | sonds exiting |
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| [04:56:04] | JohnQ: | find... using -exec with grep will do what he wants. |
| [04:56:13] | xris: | bRuZdEGO: gnome also has some new index search agent thingie kind of like apple's sherlock, too. never messed with it, though |
| [04:56:38] | xris: | JohnQ: except that `find` is only really beneficial if you want to restrict. he said "every file" |
| [04:56:54] | bRuZdEGO: | so "grep -r PATTERN /" should do it |
| [04:57:03] | mchou: | Gumby: the parallels were obvious in the pilot. and in the first two shows they hammered on that (if you were paying attention) |
| [04:57:42] | Gumby: | mchou: if a person really didnt care for the show they may not care to make the connection. I just dont see how that comes down to ADD. Ignorance possibly, but ADD? Cmon |
| [04:57:51] | xris: | bRuZdEGO: then sit back and wait for a LONG time |
| [04:58:04] | JohnQ: | you're going to search /proc and all of its evils if you use that |
| [04:58:05] | bRuZdEGO: | yerp....... it's got all night |
| [04:58:20] | bRuZdEGO: | yea, well. i'm trying to work out what this debian system is doing |
| [04:58:24] | bRuZdEGO: | and i've got no clues so far. |
| [04:58:30] | bRuZdEGO: | eg. i'm trying to use myth gallery |
| [04:58:32] | Gumby: | bRuZdEGO: I'd output the results to a file and come back in an hour or three |
| [04:58:35] | mchou: | Gumby: which would you rather be called? Ignorant or ADD? :) |
| [04:58:42] | Gumby: | mchou: ignorant. |
| [04:58:51] | JohnQ: | using find with -xdev and grep will work better... but do whatever you want |
| [04:58:51] | bRuZdEGO: | when I put my camera in, it mounts /media/NO NAME but, I can not find anywhere where it goes to get that name |
| [04:58:52] | Gumby: | ignorance is not necessarily a negative term |
| [04:58:54] | xris: | bRuZdEGO: imho it'd be better to mix with find and exclude some things you know won't matter.. like /usr/bin, etc. |
| [04:59:03] | Gumby: | all ignorance is, is a lack of knowledge |
| [04:59:16] | mchou: | Gumby: ok, my ignorant "so called bike mechanic" |
| [04:59:25] | Gumby: | a single person can not know everything there is to know |
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| [04:59:28] | bRuZdEGO: | yeah, I will |
| [04:59:43] | Gumby: | thus everyone is ignorant in many areas |
| [04:59:48] | ShockValue: | is it possible to run a frontend for standard def TV on a 1.2ghz celeron ? |
| [05:00:03] | xris: | ShockValue: should work well enough |
| [05:00:08] | Gumby: | ShockValue: shouldnt be a problem |
| [05:00:10] | bRuZdEGO: | and can you make mythgallery search for pictures recursively |
| [05:00:10] | xris: | esp. with a good tv out card like nvidia |
| [05:00:12] | robbins876: | how long should it take to transcode a 30min show? |
| [05:00:19] | robbins876: | on an athlon 64 3500+? |
| [05:00:20] | ShockValue: | i just came into posesion of a little box about half the size of a lunchmoc |
| [05:00:25] | bRuZdEGO: | because my digital camera has liek a long path when you plug it in |
| [05:00:26] | Gumby: | robbins876: 5–10mins |
| [05:00:28] | xris: | robbins876: 80 hours. |
| [05:00:28] | mchou: | Gumby: true that. but Conan Doyle's Sherlock Holmes works are classics |
| [05:00:35] | xris: | robbins876: ask a better question. |
| [05:00:39] | robbins876: | 80 hours seems a bit of an over estimate |
| [05:00:42] | ShockValue: | problem is it's an integrated i810 intel graphics.. |
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| [05:01:01] | mchou: | Gumby: just like the definition of pi |
| [05:01:02] | xris: | robbins876: 80 hours if your source was 1080p and you were transcoding to 10800p |
| [05:01:06] | Gumby: | mchou: not all are well read. I personally am too active to have time to read much |
| [05:01:26] | xris: | robbins876: your question is sort of like asking "how fast is this car" without actually pointing at a car. |
| [05:02:00] | mchou: | Gumby: we've already established you are one lazy SOB who uses "experience" as a lame excuse for not using a torque wrench. |
| [05:02:09] | robbins876: | how about an estimate... 15, 20 minutes? |
| [05:02:18] | robbins876: | how can i tell if the show has been transcoded sucessfully? |
| [05:02:21] | Gumby: | mchou: if you say so |
| [05:02:28] | xris: | robbins876: how about some details.. res/bitrate/codec of source and target. |
| [05:02:34] | mchou: | Gumby: that's like a torque wrench on about 9 bolts max on a bike |
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| [05:02:45] | Gumby: | mchou: if you say o |
| [05:02:46] | Gumby: | so |
| [05:03:05] | JohnQ: | > the length of the show, for sure. |
| [05:03:13] | mchou: | Gumby: 4 for handlebar/stem, 2 for stem/steerer, and 2 for seatpost |
| [05:03:22] | ShockValue: | fesible to run mythtv with a seperate mysql backend, with the mysql database on a differetn box? |
| [05:03:32] | Gumby: | mchou: there really is no point trying to reason with you let along argue. you are right, and when you are challenged you like to sling insults. carry and being you, I really dont have a problem with it |
| [05:04:11] | mchou: | Gumby: so you think being "lazy" is an insult? |
| [05:04:33] | Gumby: | mchou: when used how you use it yes. it was meant as an insult |
| [05:05:06] | ShockValue: | damn, did i just join channel #linux or what? |
| [05:05:15] | ShockValue: | i coulda swore this was mythtv-users |
| [05:05:29] | mchou: | Gumby: I gave good reasons on why a torque wrench SHOULD be used. You didnt give shit besides "experience" |
| [05:05:56] | Gumby: | mchou: you're a physicist correct? do you use a calculator for every math equation that you do? or do you use your experience in math do work things out in your head? |
| [05:06:12] | xris: | mchou and Gumby: please take it elsewhere before things get any worse. |
| [05:06:12] | mchou: | Gumby: I bet you are one of those guys who squeezes a tire and tells the pressure w/in 2 psi too :) |
| [05:06:23] | Gumby: | I guarantee you dont use a calculator for EVERY equation. why should i not use my experience to my advantage as well |
| [05:06:35] | Gumby: | mchou: not 2, probably 5 |
| [05:06:50] | Gumby: | mchou: not to mention I can pick up a bike and guess its weight within 1/2 a lb |
| [05:06:52] | Gumby: | but anyhow |
| [05:07:00] | Gumby: | this has nothing to do with mythtv |
| [05:07:04] | mchou: | Gumby: bullshit. You probably couldnt tell if it's 10 psi off |
| [05:07:13] | Gumby: | course I cant, you are right. |
| [05:07:24] | Gumby: | mythtv anyone? |
| [05:07:41] | Gumby: | ShockValue: yes, its totally feasable |
| [05:08:03] | ShockValue: | cool.. i have an old 800mhz 1u box that im thinking of making into a mysql dedicated |
| [05:08:15] | ShockValue: | since i have about 4 seperate apps that use mysql as a backend |
| [05:10:21] | ShockValue: | amarok, jinzora, mythtv and im thinkin of tinkering around with a web-bulletin board for a friend for kicks |
| [05:10:37] | ShockValue: | i think they can use mysql, no? |
| [05:10:46] | Gumby: | carefull with those web BB's. they get comprimised quite often |
| [05:11:00] | ShockValue: | as long as they lube up and im drunk, i dont mind. |
| [05:11:03] | ShockValue: | errr |
| [05:11:47] | ShockValue: | i only have 2 sets of data that would make me cry if i lost.. and i back them both up.. the rest is easily replaceable |
| [05:13:28] | Gumby: | am I correct in the statement that windows needs the nuppelvideo codec to play nuv's? |
| [05:13:35] | ShockValue: | im really considering ditching directv and going with comcast so i can just dump the data straight to a hard drive |
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| [05:14:17] | ShockValue: | i can get HDTV that way too, right? |
| [05:15:39] | Gumby: | couldnt tell ya |
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| [05:21:59] | d3ity_: | hey guys |
| [05:22:29] | ShockValue: | heya |
| [05:24:14] | ShockValue: | my wife complains about mythtv sometimes when i gotta reboot or something, but i know if it went away, she'd miss it :) |
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| [05:36:49] | k-man_: | ShockValue, you have to reboot? |
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| [05:36:59] | k-man_: | i don't think i have rebooted for weeks |
| [05:37:04] | k-man_: | possibly even months |
| [05:38:30] | ShockValue: | well yeah, it usually is weeks between reboots, but occasionaly something will hoze up and i just dump it |
| [05:38:46] | ShockValue: | but if its in the middle of "so you think you can dance", i catch hell |
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| [06:19:18] | word: | Hmm..it looks like when jobs are run on the slave backend i just set up...they error out..is there a log for this somewhere so i can see why? |
| [06:21:21] | word: | well i shouldn't say jobs...transcoding jobs |
| [06:22:48] | Captain_Murdoch: | wherever mythbackend is logging to. might depend on where you installed myth from (package or source). if you run "mythbackend -v jobqueue" it will give more info about what the jobqueue is doing and it might tell you why it's happening if you can't find anything in the current logs. |
| [06:22:56] | Captain_Murdoch: | maybe try "locate mythbackend.log" or something like that. |
| [06:23:31] | Captain_Murdoch: | if the slave is trying to transcode a file that was recorded on the master and the slave doesn't mount the master's recording directory then it won't be able to transcode the files recorded on the master. |
| [06:23:43] | Captain_Murdoch: | it needs write access to the master's recording directory. |
| [06:24:49] | word: | hmm i believe it has write access... |
| [06:24:57] | word: | and it is mounted.. |
| [06:25:08] | word: | i can see the log for mine and its empty :-/ |
| [06:25:56] | word: | i guess i'll check on the salve |
| [06:33:00] | word: | Captain_Murdoch: found it it says mythtranscode can't do remote transcoding which..well if it's mounted at /mnt/mythtvmaster on the slave shouldn't be happening.. |
| [06:34:21] | Captain_Murdoch: | if you're on v0.19, it might need to be mounted in the same exact place on both. 0.20 should solve that I think. gotta run though, but try that or search some on the mailing list about that error, it's been discussed before quite a few times. |
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| [06:40:43] | cesman: | hello hello |
| [06:40:56] | cesman: | anyone here using MythArchive? |
| [06:41:58] | cesman: | I've using svn 11064 and am getting an undefined symbol in __libc_csu_init |
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| [06:43:10] | cesman: | checking the archives, I see a reference to __libc_csu_init and it seems to be related to mixing various versions of MythTV |
| [06:43:21] | cesman: | I know this isn't the case |
| [06:43:43] | cesman: | MythTV is functioning ok as are my other plugins |
| [06:43:47] | cesman: | any ideas? |
| [06:44:24] | word: | Sorry never used mytharchive. |
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| [06:57:17] | Anduin: | cesman: Which undefined symbol? |
| [06:57:51] | cesman: | Anduin: undefined symbol: __libc_csu_init |
| [07:00:13] | cesman: | In the log, it states mythburn.py failed to run mytharchivehelper to get db.... |
| [07:00:29] | cesman: | running mytharchivehelper in an xterm, the above is what I get |
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| [07:06:52] | Anduin: | cesman: ubuntu? |
| [07:07:24] | Anduin: | cesman: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1296024 if so |
| [07:07:53] | cesman: | no, KnoppMyth |
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| [07:28:22] | degreseven: | mythfrontend won't connect to the backend server running on the same machine. mythbackend.log says QSqlQuery::exec: database not open. can anyone help me? |
| [07:32:17] | cesman: | The first thing would be to check to see if MySQL is running |
| [07:32:36] | cesman: | if so, can you connect to it w/ the credentials in mysql.txt? |
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| [07:33:16] | cesman: | that would be in either /usr/share/mythtv, /usr/local/share/mythtv or ~/.mythtv/ |
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| [07:34:08] | Anduin: | degreseven: are you running 0.19 (not 0.19-fixes) and using MySQL 5? |
| [07:36:42] | degreseven: | Anduin, mythtv-0.19_p10505, mysql-4.1.21 |
| [07:38:44] | degreseven: | cesman, sorry im a newb & don't know how to work mysql =/ |
| [07:40:15] | degreseven: | cesman, it is running though |
| [07:42:28] | cesman: | well, in that file you should see the password used to authenicate w/ MySQL |
| [07:42:48] | cesman: | mysql -p |
| [07:43:03] | cesman: | should get you connected after you enter the password |
| [07:43:43] | cesman: | well, the morning is going to come quickly, so I'm out of there... |
| [07:43:45] | cesman: | later folks |
| [07:43:48] | enyc: | ;-) |
| [07:43:50] | enyc: | meepmeep |
| [07:46:19] | degreseven: | ok it says ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'farva'@'localhost' (using password: YES). but farva is my normal user, i am trying to log in as mythtv |
| [07:49:01] | cesman: | mysql -u mythtv -p |
| [07:49:09] | cesman: | and on that note... |
| [07:49:12] | cesman: | meepmeep |
| [07:49:28] | degreseven: | same error for mythtv user |
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| [07:53:12] | Anduin: | degreseven: did you mc.sql? |
| [07:53:54] | degreseven: | Anduin, sorry, i dont know what that means |
| [07:54:41] | Anduin: | degreseven: It is part of a basic install, it creates the mythconverg database and the mythtv user. Unless you installed from packages (and did it right), it isn't a step you can skip. |
| [07:55:40] | degreseven: | Anduin, i use gentoo & just emerged everything. This used to be working (before my roommate upgraded everything) so i woud assume so |
| [07:56:32] | Anduin: | degreseven: Only the devil and Cardoe know what the emerge does. |
| [07:57:25] | degreseven: | Anduin, =P. # mysql -u root -p < /usr/share/mythtv/database/mc.sql <---is this what i want, and should i (re) do it? |
| [07:58:27] | Anduin: | degreseven: redoing it won't hurt anything, finding out the actual problem may be more useful though. |
| [08:02:10] | degreseven: | Anduin, well mysql -u mythtv -p lets me connect now. but mythfrontend won't even start. keeps saying "access denied for user mythtv @ localhost. database not open. |
| [08:07:32] | Anduin: | degreseven: and the frontend is on that same machine? |
| [08:07:40] | degreseven: | Anduin, yes |
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| [08:08:29] | poonj_: | hey guys... |
| [08:08:46] | poonj_: | should I install the debian packages or compile myth myself? |
| [08:08:46] | Anduin: | degreseven: Should be connecting the same way (and working), don't know what else to try. |
| [08:11:57] | degreseven: | hm |
| [08:14:23] | Ruleke: | degreseven: set the permissions |
| [08:15:17] | degreseven: | Ruleke, can you be more specific please? |
| [08:16:00] | Ruleke: | I haven't been following your entire conversation |
| [08:16:11] | Ruleke: | so not sure what you are trying to do |
| [08:16:29] | degreseven: | mythfrontend won't connect to the backend server on the same machine |
| [08:17:02] | degreseven: | says access denied for user mythtv@localhost, database not open |
| [08:17:28] | Ruleke: | is the database running ? :) |
| [08:17:45] | degreseven: | mysql is running |
| [08:18:03] | Ruleke: | anyway, I think the permissions for localhost are there by default... strange |
| [08:18:08] | degreseven: | mysql -u mythtv -p lets me connect just fine |
| [08:18:08] | Ruleke: | read http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html |
| [08:19:39] | Ruleke: | -p ? have you set a different password ? |
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| [08:20:51] | degreseven: | no, i have no idea how to work mysql, someone told me to use that command to check it earlier |
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| [08:21:14] | ender224455: | is the GeForce FX 5200 well supported with mythtv? |
| [08:21:20] | ender224455: | (especially for TV out) |
| [08:22:06] | degreseven: | it doesnt work if i don't use -p, it says acces denied, (using password: NO) |
| [08:22:29] | Ruleke: | after the -p, you type the password ? |
| [08:22:53] | degreseven: | well, then it prompts me for password |
| [08:23:03] | Ruleke: | ok and it's the default one ? |
| [08:24:19] | degreseven: | its the same as whats in mysql.txt |
| [08:28:19] | Anduin: | ender224455: I don't have that specific card, but yes it should. |
| [08:29:06] | ender224455: | Anduin: what would you recommend as a cheap, very compatible card? I've had some problems getting my Radeon 8500 to do TV out |
| [08:29:11] | Anduin: | degreseven: When you did mythtv-setup did you change the user/password? |
| [08:29:15] | Ruleke: | degreseven: the mysql.txt in the user homedir ? |
| [08:30:07] | Anduin: | ender224455: basically the card you mentioned, though I'd probably spend a tiny bit more for some 6x00 |
| [08:30:34] | ender224455: | Anduin: er.. what is 6x00? And why? |
| [08:30:36] | degreseven: | Ruleke, yes |
| [08:30:45] | Anduin: | ender224455: 6200 for example |
| [08:30:58] | ender224455: | does it have a feature that hte other card doesn't? |
| [08:31:03] | degreseven: | Anduin, no i didnt change it, and it won't let me run mythtv-setup any more |
| [08:34:01] | Anduin: | ender224455: For myth? Not really. |
| [08:34:46] | Anduin: | degreseven: you can edit ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt to check the user/password |
| [08:36:13] | degreseven: | Anduin, they are correct though |
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| [08:46:08] | Anduin: | degreseven: I'd check the other locations for that file as given by Ruleke, getting there with mysql should get you there with mythtv (unless it were not a localhost case, in which you could be denying connects to MySQL) |
| [08:49:59] | degreseven: | Anduin, there are 3 locations for the file, in /etc/mythtv/.mythtv, in the users home dir, and in /var/log/mythtv/.mythtv. all are identical |
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| [09:07:44] | degreseven: | i gtg, thanks for the help but i guess i'll be back tomorrow =/ |
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| [09:29:26] | Maccco: | Does anyone know if it's possible to receive nds encrypted trasmission under linux? I can't find any resource about this. |
| [09:29:33] | poonj_: | hey guys |
| [09:29:39] | poonj_: | where can I get the MTD binary? |
| [09:30:52] | Maccco: | I can't understand if anyone got it to work, which cam reader works, which dvb-s card works |
| [09:38:14] | Juski: | re |
| [09:39:05] | Ruleke: | what's nds ? |
| [09:39:09] | Ruleke: | lo juski |
| [09:40:24] | Juski: | Maccco: AFAIK if the dvb-s card is supported by linux it should work. we don't get many users of dvb-s in here let alone folks who use CAMs |
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| [09:47:47] | Maccco: | juski: I'm a SkyTv customer and would like to receive the non-free channels directly on the pc. I don't know if there are any cam reader which allow this |
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| [09:54:05] | Ruleke: | Juski: ey, I use a CAM :P |
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| [10:17:28] | Juski: | Maccco: tricky. I think there's something called the Dragon CAM which you'd use your proper $ky viewing card with but I've never seen any info about using that with a PC – believe me I've looked |
| [10:19:04] | Maccco: | I did too, but there is no information googling around :-( |
| [10:19:35] | slaine_: | Isn't the only solution to use an irblaster and feed the svideo/composite into an encoder card ? |
| [10:19:52] | Juski: | I think the Dragon CAM changed its name recently too |
| [10:20:27] | Juski: | slaine_: it's the easiest way but not the only way |
| [10:21:08] | slaine_: | I've heard of a dvb-s/c PCI cards that have a slot for a card, but I've never heard of linux drivers for them |
| [10:21:24] | Juski: | you can (allegedly) fit a dragon cam thing to a 'regular' DVB-S STB & get $ky on a non-$ky box – so you'd think it'd also work in a PC |
| [10:21:25] | slaine_: | Exterity may sell some servers with that stuff in it (Exterity use linux servers) |
| [10:21:43] | slaine_: | What is a CAM btw ? |
| [10:21:52] | Juski: | conditional access module |
| [10:22:00] | slaine_: | That's what I thought |
| [10:22:02] | Juski: | fits into a CI slot (common interface slot) |
| [10:22:19] | Juski: | dvbshop sells dvb-s and dvb-c cards with CI slots |
| [10:23:15] | Juski: | dvb-c with CI is no good for us in the UK since the cable companies don't let consumers buy a suitable CAM – and besides that it's against their T&Cs to connect other stuff to their cable |
| [10:23:45] | slaine_: | Yeah, otherwise I'd probably opt for NTL Digital |
| [10:24:45] | Juski: | they'd also not want to do the tech support :-P |
| [10:26:26] | Ruleke: | I have dvb-c with a cam |
| [10:28:20] | Juski: | Ruleke: who's your cable provider? |
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| [10:29:57] | Krazylegz: | Juski: Do you ever sleep? |
| [10:30:18] | Ruleke: | Juski: integan |
| [10:30:27] | Juski: | Krazylegz: heh. I went to bed at 2am this morning |
| [10:30:39] | Krazylegz: | It's 11:30 there now? |
| [10:31:06] | Juski: | yep |
| [10:31:48] | Juski: | Ruleke: ahh yes.. an Irish provider aren't they.. so they allow you to connect your own gear & buy a CAM? |
| [10:32:33] | Ruleke: | belgium |
| [10:32:43] | Juski: | oops. lol |
| [10:33:08] | Ruleke: | told you I'm not in the UK before :p |
| [10:33:40] | Ruleke: | we are free to use the dvb card etc |
| [10:33:43] | Ruleke: | even for hdtv |
| [10:33:45] | Ruleke: | yay |
| [10:34:19] | Maccco: | The prodblem is Sky use nds encryption, not seca like many sat providers |
| [10:34:46] | Juski: | yeh totally propriatary. |
| [10:35:03] | Ruleke: | :-/ |
| [10:36:16] | Juski: | Maccco: try looking on the UK satellite shop webpages.. it's definitely possible |
| [10:36:24] | Ruleke: | if you can get a CAM it should work I guess |
| [10:36:45] | Ruleke: | nothing special to do when using a cam |
| [10:36:51] | Ruleke: | from a setup pov |
| [10:36:55] | Maccco: | Yeah, I colud try... but i don't need to waste money if it doesn't work! |
| [10:36:55] | Juski: | and the CAM itself doesn't need drivers as such since it should all work through the dvb card driver |
| [10:37:10] | Maccco: | Nice info, this last one |
| [10:37:15] | Maccco: | i didn't know! |
| [10:37:36] | Ruleke: | well the CI interface has drivers... and some cams don't work with some cards |
| [10:37:58] | Ruleke: | I think low level CI is the most transparant or something |
| [10:38:07] | Juski: | so much for the 'common' interface then |
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| [10:38:51] | Ruleke: | http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Supported_CAM_modules |
| [10:43:02] | Juski: | lol @ the UK CAM vendor websites.. NOT work safe |
| [10:43:09] | Ruleke: | no idea |
| [10:43:11] | Ruleke: | :) |
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| [10:45:39] | Juski: | yeh well take it from me they're not work safe ;-) |
| [10:45:46] | Ruleke: | also, I don't know how sky transmits its sat signal |
| [10:46:06] | Juski: | the freqs etc conform to DVB specs |
| [10:46:29] | Juski: | the EPG data doesn't though.. it's encrypted & uses a nonstandard method AFAIK |
| [10:46:49] | Juski: | they also use their own variant of MHEG for the interactive stuff |
| [10:48:34] | Ruleke: | I think you need a Ku band lnb |
| [10:49:16] | Juski: | lyngsat has the info about that |
| [10:50:24] | Ruleke: | well there are CAMs now for sky digital it seems |
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| [11:11:40] | Maccco: | looks like a labyrinth i'm not sure i want to enter in :-) |
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| [11:12:58] | Juski: | bah. so much for linux being pioneering then :-P |
| [11:13:55] | Ruleke: | just get a cam and the card and plug it in a technotrend fullfeatured card, see if it works ;) |
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| [11:16:54] | Juski: | I once saw a webpage where some guy had hacked his $ky box to record mpeg2 to a hard drive ages before $ky Plu$ came out |
| [11:19:26] | Juski: | he wasn't having to deal with the encryption since he was only dumping streams to the hdd. very nifty premise |
| [11:20:26] | Maccco: | Ah, another problem I have italian Sky, don'tt know if this could add problems |
| [11:21:16] | Juski: | oh in that case you should just be able to bribe somebody to give you a CAM.. ;-) |
| [11:22:05] | Ruleke: | cams you can just buy |
| [11:22:30] | Juski: | FWIW I think you'd be safest to just use a receiver & IR blaster like the rest of us poor mortals |
| [11:22:45] | Ruleke: | UK mortals |
| [11:24:18] | Maccco: | this means ccontrol the original decoder with a IR ? |
| [11:24:41] | Juski: | another solution may be a Dreambox... they can stream video over TCP/IP and be controlled with http |
| [11:24:57] | Juski: | similar ini concept to the DBOX2 which is already supported by mythtv |
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| [11:25:17] | Juski: | though I don't think the dbox2 support is in very good shape right now |
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| [11:25:52] | Maccco: | What's that IR thing you were talking about? |
| [11:27:00] | Juski: | an IR blaster – simulates an IR remote control but used by mythtv to change channels on the box |
| [11:31:57] | Juski: | are there any Uk developer bods in here today? |
| [11:33:57] | Ruleke: | why uk ? :) |
| [11:34:15] | Juski: | there's a possibility that MythTV can be shown at a UK Linux expo & I'd like to 'borrow' someone to attend |
| [11:35:25] | Juski: | doesn't have to be a UK developer of course, but they'd need to travel |
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| [11:49:10] | Juski: | bloody typical. been running mythbackend with verbose logging enabled for a couple of week now & not even a hint of upcoming recordings vanishing |
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| [11:55:56] | [shodan]: | ok , this is just great => sf.net/projects/xbmcmythtv/ |
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| [11:57:28] | Ruleke: | hmm ? |
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| [11:59:24] | shodan: | if you were an xbmc user you'd be like "OMGWTFBBQ!!!!!111" , I garantee ;) |
| [12:00:25] | Ruleke: | meh |
| [12:00:37] | Ruleke: | If I were an xbmc user, I wouldn't be in this channel |
| [12:02:29] | shodan: | well, xbmc is just a front end , it can't record anything |
| [12:02:53] | Ruleke: | yep |
| [12:03:06] | Ruleke: | why not run linux on it and have a proper frontend ? |
| [12:03:12] | Juski: | cos it sucks? |
| [12:03:20] | Juski: | unless you have a memory upgrade |
| [12:03:54] | Juski: | and xbmc's media playing totally trounces mythmusic |
| [12:04:10] | Ruleke: | strange |
| [12:04:15] | Juski: | oh and xbmc takes but a few seconds to boot |
| [12:04:51] | Ruleke: | so can you shedule recordings etc from that xbmcmythtv thing ? |
| [12:04:57] | Juski: | nope |
| [12:05:04] | Ruleke: | watch livetv ? |
| [12:05:10] | Juski: | supposed to be able to but I never got it to work |
| [12:05:21] | Juski: | livetv doesn't work either. not that I ever cared about livetv |
| [12:05:59] | Juski: | and it won't work with native recordings AFAIK – only mpeg from pvr or dvb tuners |
| [12:06:31] | Juski: | so sure it has limitations but within them constraints it's better than mythfrontend IMHO |
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| [12:06:49] | Juski: | just a huge pity the xbox is FUGLY and noisy |
| [12:06:58] | Ruleke: | I suppose |
| [12:07:54] | Juski: | for such a well-used plugin, mythmusic is without doubt the least worked on. I dunno how much the SoC project accomplished with it though |
| [12:08:15] | shodan: | well those problems are minor compared to the xbox's real problem, that is made by the evil empire |
| [12:08:41] | Juski: | lol |
| [12:08:44] | Ruleke: | the real problem is that it's closed and needs hoopumping to do anything useful |
| [12:08:55] | Ruleke: | hoopjumping too |
| [12:08:56] | Ruleke: | :p |
| [12:09:22] | Juski: | like you don't need to jump through any hoops to get mythtv up & running I suppose... |
| [12:09:28] | Maccco: | Juski (soory for the delay), does MythTv suport something like a IR out that changes channels on the Sky Decoder? Where can I reado info about it? |
| [12:09:45] | shodan: | yeah , thought that is totally easy now , I'm a total xbox modding noob but I got xbmc up and running on my vanilla xbox in no time |
| [12:09:46] | Juski: | Maccco: yeah mythtv can use external channel changer scripts |
| [12:09:56] | Maccco: | Funny! |
| [12:10:02] | Maccco: | And simple! |
| [12:10:07] | Juski: | Maccco: look in the official wiki |
| [12:10:23] | Maccco: | ok, that's the easy solution i was looking for! |
| [12:10:28] | Maccco: | Thanks a lot |
| [12:10:46] | Juski: | it depends on lirc I think |
| [12:11:56] | Juski: | you have lots of choices to go for.. 1) ready made ir blaster (e.g. the kind that comes with pvr tuner cards) 2) home made serial port IR blaster 3) RF control box ($ky boxen have the capability to have remote control signals piggybacked onto one of their RF out ports) |
| [12:12:51] | Krazylegz: | Juski: What kind of IR blaster comes with a PVR card? |
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| [12:13:48] | Juski: | a USB thing AFAIK.. with a preprogrammed microcontroller inside it.. can be a bit of a PITA to get working by all accounts |
| [12:14:12] | Ruleke: | lots of cards have IR connectors onboard |
| [12:14:25] | kambei: | MythTV does not display the "names" of the channels. What have I done wrong? |
| [12:14:33] | Ruleke: | most of the time connected to a seperate jack |
| [12:15:03] | Krazylegz: | Juski: You mean like a PVR-350? I don't recall having an IR blaster there. |
| [12:15:10] | Juski: | Ruleke: varies I think |
| [12:15:15] | Krazylegz: | Might be worth setting up, since we have digital cable. |
| [12:15:27] | Juski: | Krazylegz: the MCE packages come with IR blasters IIRC |
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| [12:15:45] | kambei: | My PVR-150 non-MCE came with an IR blaster. |
| [12:15:49] | Krazylegz: | Ah, okay. That makes sense. |
| [12:16:01] | Krazylegz: | All I got was the remote and the sensor. |
| [12:16:35] | kambei: | My blaster is actually attached to the same dongle. |
| [12:16:50] | Krazylegz: | Oh. |
| [12:16:54] | Krazylegz: | Pic? |
| [12:17:14] | Juski: | yeh they use PIC micros in there |
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| [12:17:42] | shodan: | Juski, got some information on that rf control box thingy ? do echostar receivers have that function ? |
| [12:18:10] | kambei: | Any chance someone could tell me how to get Myth to display channel names in the program guide? |
| [12:18:13] | Juski: | shodan: damn you're Italian Sky... not uk $ky (murdoch owned) |
| [12:18:30] | Juski: | kambei: did you put channel names in the channel editor? |
| [12:18:50] | kambei: | No, I assumed that it should do it automatically when it pulls the listings. |
| [12:18:56] | kambei: | I figured that I missed something. |
| [12:19:07] | kambei: | They must be input by hand? |
| [12:19:15] | Krazylegz: | Heh. I meant I wanted a picture. :-) |
| [12:19:32] | kambei: | I don't have a camera. |
| [12:19:37] | Krazylegz: | Okay. |
| [12:19:44] | ** Krazylegz wanders off to Google Images ** | |
| [12:19:48] | kambei: | Byt it's two wires coming out of the same little jack |
| [12:20:14] | shodan: | check irblaster.info (I'm going to get mine there) |
| [12:20:14] | kambei: | One cable has a reveiver, the other really long and thin cable has a small IR blaster. |
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| [12:20:25] | kambei: | receiver, even |
| [12:20:29] | Krazylegz: | shodan: Thanks. |
| [12:20:41] | Krazylegz: | Heh, I need a remote too. Wonder if I can still get the Niveus. |
| [12:21:07] | kambei: | I have not gotten the IR blaster to work, as of yet. |
| [12:21:16] | kambei: | The remote works fine, however. |
| [12:21:30] | Krazylegz: | Yeah, my remote worked too. |
| [12:21:39] | Krazylegz: | The grey Hauppauge remote. |
| [12:21:45] | kambei: | I have the silver. |
| [12:21:54] | shodan: | I have a working homemade one but those look much nicer :) and they're dirt cheap |
| [12:22:39] | kambei: | Not to mention, I got the "integrated" LCD on the front of my case to work. |
| [12:22:56] | Krazylegz: | $12?! |
| [12:23:03] | Krazylegz: | I'll spring for the $15 fanciness. |
| [12:31:31] | Krazylegz: | So, how hard is ivtv to setup now? Haven't done it in a year, but I saw it's in Portage. |
| [12:31:56] | kambei: | I ended up using 2.6.16 to use 6.3 |
| [12:32:01] | kambei: | or .63 |
| [12:32:08] | kambei: | whichever it is |
| [12:32:25] | kambei: | I was having problems with the 4 series. |
| [12:32:47] | Krazylegz: | I'm using 2.6.17-r7. |
| [12:33:07] | Krazylegz: | I'll take a look at the latest ivtv docs then. Thanks. |
| [12:33:08] | kambei: | I didn't try to build against 2.6.17 |
| [12:33:20] | Krazylegz: | I just emerged it, no compilation errors. |
| [12:33:24] | Krazylegz: | So, we'll see. |
| [12:33:30] | kambei: | You should be fine, then. |
| [12:33:46] | Krazylegz: | Why, because everything in Portage just works? :-) |
| [12:34:18] | kambei: | No, but if it built, you should have your module. |
| [12:34:31] | kambei: | Although, I suppose it could give you an error when you try to insert it. |
| [12:35:05] | Krazylegz: | No error. |
| [12:35:11] | Krazylegz: | Doesn't mean it will work. |
| [12:40:28] | kambei: | So, am I correct in stating that MythTV requires me to manual name the channels? |
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| [12:40:38] | laga: | re |
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| [12:51:29] | Speedy2: | Merlin83b: Did you get the $5 from my friend? |
| [12:51:56] | Merlin83b: | Don't know, it wasn't coming to me :-) |
| [12:52:03] | Merlin83b: | I'll check ina bit when the guy it was going to comes online. |
| [12:52:09] | Speedy2: | Merlin83b: Ok. |
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| [13:26:55] | sigger: | kambei: what kind of case do you have that you got the integrated LCD to work? |
| [13:30:04] | kambei: | sigger: Antec Fusion |
| [13:30:39] | sigger: | thx. and how did you get it working? showing useful myth stuff? |
| [13:30:52] | kambei: | Still working on the useful part. |
| [13:31:05] | kambei: | I haven't really messed with it since I got it working. |
| [13:31:17] | kambei: | Supposedly, it can display a bunch of stuff. |
| [13:32:06] | kambei: | I just got myth running last night for the first time. |
| [13:32:28] | kambei: | brb |
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| [13:41:40] | kambei: | sigger: There is a component to Myth that uses lcdproc to display info on the LCD. |
| [13:42:41] | sigger: | ah neat. was debating whether to get a Silverstone case with display and IR rec. didn't know how uphill a battle it would be to get it working usefully. |
| [13:43:37] | kambei: | The Fusion uses a Soundgraph iMON |
| [13:43:50] | kambei: | I know several other cases use the same component. |
| [13:44:32] | kambei: | There is also a giant dial on the case, the usefulness of which I am still debating. |
| [13:47:46] | Ruleke: | well you could do basic stuff with it :) |
| [13:48:03] | Ruleke: | select an mp3 or something from the lcd |
| [13:48:12] | kambei: | There are no buttons. |
| [13:48:14] | kambei: | Just a dial. |
| [13:51:22] | dansmith: | the silverstone case's LCD works great for me |
| [13:52:04] | slaine_: | I plan on getting a case with one |
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| [13:52:13] | Krazylegz: | dansmith: Which Silverstone case do you have? |
| [13:52:13] | slaine_: | It'll mainly display the time ;) |
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| [13:52:58] | dansmith: | Krazylegz: LC03V |
| [13:53:17] | dansmith: | it displays the status of the backend recordings, the title of shows you're watching, a progress bar, etc |
| [13:53:28] | dansmith: | the channel and title that you're watching live tv from, etc |
| [13:53:32] | dansmith: | it's quite nice |
| [13:54:12] | slaine_: | But does it have a clock :) |
| [13:54:26] | slaine_: | I'm kind of kidding but not |
| [13:54:37] | dansmith: | yes, it does show a clock as well :) |
| [13:54:38] | slaine_: | I use my VCR mainly as a quick reference clock |
| [13:54:58] | slaine_: | And I plan on dumping my VCR once I get my final case/mobo setup |
| [13:55:08] | dansmith: | myth's clock is nice an accurate, unlike that of a VCR :) |
| [13:55:25] | dansmith: | assuming you sync it with an NTP server |
| [13:55:32] | slaine_: | My VCR gets it's clock from the teletext feed from the BBC, so it's as good as NTP really |
| [13:55:52] | Ruleke: | hmm what theme are you guys using on a 1080p display ? this one looks like it's upscaled a lot :P |
| [13:55:52] | dansmith: | that's nowhere near as good as NTP.. |
| [13:56:11] | slaine_: | No, but it's better than flashing 12:00 |
| [13:56:16] | slaine_: | :) |
| [13:56:26] | dansmith: | well, that's true :) |
| [13:57:17] | slaine_: | It's granularity is good enough, it probably would update against the teletext feed as often a box would run ntpdate |
| [13:58:23] | dansmith: | ntpdate is not ntp.. ntpdate is for getting it close. ntpd keeps it sync'd within about 10ms, and is able to measure and compensate for network delays |
| [13:58:28] | dansmith: | but it's not worth arguing over :P |
| [14:04:18] | Ruleke: | not in the context of a vcr :P |
| [14:04:41] | slaine_: | indeed |
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| [14:11:05] | Juski: | Ruleke: all wide themes are based on a 1280x720 size. 4:3 themes on a 800x600 size. not much more can be done about that without some serious changes |
| [14:13:52] | Juski: | making all the theme graphics vector based might cure that, but I can't imagine that happening for a while |
| [14:15:16] | Juski: | ... as if theming isn't already enough fun ;-) |
| [14:16:03] | slaine_: | hehe |
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| [14:31:46] | Kabutor: | hi, Im having problems after my last mythtv update (full gentoo update), the image seems to "zoom in" only while playing video, mythfrontend is fine, but the mplayer (for mythvideo) and the built-in player seems to zoom in image |
| [14:32:11] | Kabutor: | seems to me like a video driver – xorg issue but dont know how to fix it, or where to touch |
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| [14:35:04] | Kabutor: | my girlfriend is going to kill me if the mythv tv is not working today so I can take some help :) |
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| [14:39:38] | qu0zl: | Kabutor, the cmd line for mplayer, doesn't have -zoom set right? |
| [14:39:53] | Kabutor: | nomego_, i tried with and without it |
| [14:40:05] | Kabutor: | I tried -vo x11 and xv for same result, even tried vo gl |
| [14:40:30] | qu0zl: | that's the driver used to render it |
| [14:40:32] | Ruleke: | Juski: ugh, well one could create some in a higher res :) |
| [14:40:38] | qu0zl: | whats the full mplayer cmd line? |
| [14:41:16] | Kabutor: | the weird thing is that if I open mplayer without the -fs it opens in a small size, if I press F (for fullscreen) the only screen rendered is the one with the same size as the windowed version |
| [14:41:25] | Kabutor: | I dont use nothing for the mplayer command line |
| [14:41:30] | Kabutor: | just plain -vo xv |
| [14:41:47] | Kabutor: | I remove all the parameters in the mplayer.conf files |
| [14:42:02] | Juski: | Ruleke: no one can't create one at a higher res since all the scaling is based on 800x600 or 1280x720 |
| [14:42:54] | Juski: | somebody somewhere looks forward to a patch to change that |
| [14:43:38] | Juski: | if you're bored you could test out the projectgrayhem-wide 2.0 theme for me http://www.juski.co.uk/pg/tarballs/ |
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| [15:01:24] | riddlebox: | is anyone running myth from the deb http://hamsta.net/mythtv/files/dapper ./? |
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| [15:02:02] | Kabutor: | I confirm the problem with my box was the combo drivers + kernel I try antoher ones and works fine.. damn ati drivers! |
| [15:03:38] | riddlebox: | I get this error when I do apt-get install mythtv: http://pastebin.ca/162449 |
| [15:03:46] | Kabutor: | Good for me, my girlfriend dont kill me.. for now ;) |
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| [15:04:40] | gardengnome: | riddlebox: read the error message. it's not that hard. |
| [15:04:43] | Kabutor: | riddlebox, userdel mythtv maybe ? |
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| [15:05:04] | riddlebox: | when I installed ubuntu I made the user mythtv |
| [15:05:25] | Ruleke: | so remove it again |
| [15:05:26] | riddlebox: | so now I have to create another user then del mythtv? |
| [15:05:56] | Ruleke: | well you are installing with the root user, the install will re-create it |
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| [15:21:21] | dverzolla: | Has anyone using User Jobs with ffmpeg ? |
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| [15:27:41] | dverzolla: | what means: housekeeping ? |
| [15:28:06] | Zider: | cleaning, doing dishes.. |
| [15:28:42] | Ruleke: | tidying up |
| [15:28:46] | Ruleke: | :) |
| [15:29:17] | ** Ruleke home ** | |
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| [15:40:46] | dverzolla: | If the "Auto-flag commercials" is cheched. Myth will run user jobs when the video ends? |
| [15:42:23] | Juski: | depends if you've set jobs up to run at all times or not |
| [15:42:55] | cesman: | hey Juski |
| [15:43:05] | Juski: | hey cesman |
| [15:44:21] | dverzolla: | Juski, 00:00 at 23:59 |
| [15:44:24] | Juski: | might be exhibiting again soon :-) Might need to run off some more knoppmyth CDs |
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| [15:46:16] | Juski: | dverzolla: mythtv should run commflagging etc when the recording is finished AFAIK |
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| [15:47:20] | Juski: | time for hometime I think |
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| [15:47:40] | dverzolla: | Juski, where I can see if they are running my users jobs? |
| [15:47:53] | dverzolla: | Juski, backend logs doens't show me anything |
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| [15:50:59] | ille_: | dverzolla: you need to enable each userjob |
| [15:51:18] | dverzolla: | I will try |
| [15:52:04] | dverzolla: | ille_, When I schedule my videos to be recorded. I need to set any flag? I'm recording video with mythweb, and they haven't any option to set |
| [15:52:41] | ille_: | dverzolla: there is an option for userjobs in mythweb. |
| [15:53:47] | ille_: | dverzolla: you can see if it is enabled by clicking on a scheduled recording |
| [15:54:46] | cesman: | Juski: cool! |
| [15:55:08] | cesman: | I didn't a demo last month, where I first demo'd KnoppMyth |
| [15:55:56] | dverzolla: | ille_, I think that my version don't have this option... I'm using 0.18 |
| [15:55:57] | cesman: | s/didn't/did |
| [15:56:06] | cesman: | too early I guess... |
| [15:56:47] | ille_: | dverzolla: ok |
| [15:56:57] | dverzolla: | ille_, what version are you using? |
| [15:57:20] | ille_: | dverzolla: SVN, but i think its in 0.19 |
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| [16:06:26] | dverzolla: | ille_, In manually sched you have options to 'user jobs' ? |
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| [16:21:23] | grevees: | Anyone here not connect their myth box to a high def tv??? and just use the S-Video out? |
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| [16:22:43] | cesman: | not I |
| [16:23:00] | grevees: | So you use the S-Vid out tpo connect? |
| [16:23:03] | grevees: | *to |
| [16:23:13] | cesman: | not I |
| [16:23:21] | cesman: | meaning I don't |
| [16:25:25] | grevees: | Anyone here ever deal with the "Black Bars"?? |
| [16:26:02] | grevees: | i.e. black bars on right, left, or both, and black bars on the top or bottom |
| [16:26:32] | cesman: | your best bet is probably to have your TV zoom |
| [16:26:57] | grevees: | cause I have tried everything I can think of, and googled to no end and can't find anything that can fix it |
| [16:27:26] | cesman: | well gotta run... |
| [16:27:29] | cesman: | good luck |
| [16:27:33] | grevees: | thx |
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| [16:34:42] | ille_: | grevees: google for overscan , I've used S-video before I got my LCD. |
| [16:36:44] | grevees: | but see its not overscan thats the problem... the screen is "Set" for that size... The black bars are impassable.... Its like the screen stops there |
| [16:37:14] | grevees: | the mouse pointer, the windows, etc all stop at that point |
| [16:37:19] | grevees: | no detail is missing |
| [16:37:34] | jammyd: | Does EITTransportTimeout just specify how long teach EIT scan takes? Is there a value I can set to reduce the frequency of the scans? |
| [16:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | jammyd: Yes, it's how long each scan will take. After one finishes it will start another |
| [16:38:34] | grevees: | its almost like Linux beleives my screen is 39x28 instead of 40x30 |
| [16:38:35] | GreyFoxx: | I don't believe there is a setting for how often scans occur |
| [16:39:03] | grevees: | I have changed the modeline values, and that doesn't do anything |
| [16:39:20] | grevees: | regardless of the values I put in, nothing changes |
| [16:39:29] | jammyd: | GreyFoxx: Meh, OK – Cheers ):) |
| [16:39:53] | jammyd: | Is there a way to tell it to never use a given DVB card for EIT scans? |
| [16:40:00] | grevees: | sax2 and their screen size util doesn't do anythign either |
| [16:40:00] | ille_: | grevees: exatcly, I had an option for my nvidia card "Overscan" or something, that I had put to 0.9 or something.... |
| [16:40:22] | GreyFoxx: | jammyd: You could disable the perform EIT scan or some such setting on the video source in mythtv-0setup |
| [16:40:23] | Juski: | grevees: if you're using a tv out on a nvidia card you should be able to get it to fill the screen using nvidia-settings (for GF4 + cards) |
| [16:41:05] | grevees: | hmmm... will try that again.... It was a LONG night last night reading, googling some more, and reading again |
| [16:41:15] | Juski: | grevees: but bear in mind that even with that you will not get the screen to fit the TV properly – i.e. it might fill the screen right to the edges at some sides but overlap on others |
| [16:41:39] | grevees: | hmmmmmmm :( |
| [16:41:41] | Juski: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Overscan |
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| [16:42:31] | Juski: | grevees: it can be worked around very easily though so don't be too unhappy about it. read that wiki page. |
| [16:42:45] | grevees: | ok, one question for ya Juski |
| [16:42:54] | Juski: | tv outputs seldom fit on TVs exactly centred anyway |
| [16:43:23] | jammyd: | GreyFoxx: Am I right in thinking that would disable the EIT scanning for all the cards in that vioddeosource group though? |
| [16:43:44] | grevees: | I am under the assumption that if X will not fit the screen exact (my black bars to the left, top and bottom) then Myth will not fit correct, right? |
| [16:44:00] | jammyd: | I've currently got two CVB cards, both in the same videosource. There is one card which sometimes breaks if you use it too often, and I'm just trying to prevent that one being used for EIT since I'm sure it'll reduce the frequency of the problem. |
| [16:44:10] | jammyd: | I don't want to stop all EIT though.... |
| [16:44:26] | grevees: | cause myth would use the same screen size/position as X, right? |
| [16:44:47] | Juski: | grevees: true, but you can adjust the size of the tv out so the black bars disappear. if any areas go over the edges (so to speak) you can tweak them back in by using the GUI size adjustments in mythfrontend's appearance menu |
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| [16:45:22] | Juski: | blame the broadcasters & tv makers for overscan |
| [16:45:31] | grevees: | :) |
| [16:45:38] | grevees: | gotta love it |
| [16:45:40] | Juski: | even HD relies on some overscan, which I think is ridiculous |
| [16:46:21] | grevees: | now will thios nvidia-setting come with the newest nvidia driver?? or is there an RPM for it available? |
| [16:46:25] | grevees: | *this |
| [16:46:35] | Juski: | there should be a package available for it |
| [16:46:42] | Juski: | usually called nvidia-settings |
| [16:46:46] | grevees: | gotcha |
| [16:46:55] | grevees: | well after class I will take a look for it |
| [16:47:04] | Juski: | but you know how some distros like to call stuff by different names :-| |
| [16:47:13] | grevees: | know that all to well |
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| [16:47:47] | grevees: | I may have to venture into the Suse IRC to see what it may be called... and there its like pulling eye teeth |
| [16:48:09] | grevees: | half the people have no clue whats going on...... |
| [16:48:15] | grevees: | :( |
| [16:48:29] | opello: | can't you just search in the crazy suse package program? |
| [16:48:43] | grevees: | you can.... if Suse has a RPM for it |
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| [16:49:11] | grevees: | for some reason with every version, they add some things, and they omit some |
| [16:49:14] | opello: | i'd imagine if it didn't come with drivers, and they had drivers, it would, but that's just a guess :) |
| [16:49:34] | grevees: | their drivers cause my system to not display anything |
| [16:49:46] | grevees: | I have to go with the drivers form Nvidia direct |
| [16:49:54] | opello: | crazy |
| [16:50:08] | Juski: | yep |
| [16:50:12] | grevees: | they tweak their packages I heard to fit THEIR system |
| [16:50:23] | Juski: | the nv drivers aren't much use to most people anyway |
| [16:50:38] | Juski: | so you have to resort to using the binary ones from Nvidia |
| [16:50:45] | grevees: | but after class I will have a look around |
| [16:50:50] | grevees: | thx for the help all |
| [16:51:05] | grevees: | sry my search-fu is weak |
| [16:51:44] | opello: | i was thinking he meant the rpm for nvidia's drivers, not x's nv driver |
| [16:52:00] | Juski: | http://swiftandbored.com/mythtvonsuse.htm |
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| [16:56:05] | grevees: | Juski.... THANKS!!!! |
| [16:56:17] | grevees: | It was loaded with the Nvidia driver... |
| [16:56:57] | grevees: | Got the screen bigger than needed, but I can adjust within myth (i.e. move it to right, left, make smaller, etc) correct? |
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| [16:58:38] | CBMz: | umm hi |
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| [16:59:10] | CBMz: | i need help setting up mythtv and lirc. i'm using SuSE 10.1 |
| [16:59:23] | evilDagmar: | Thankfully, nVidia's binary driver is ludicrously easy to install if you have configured kernel source on the machine |
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| [17:02:47] | CBMz: | well, the log gives me: |
| [17:02:50] | CBMz: | no version for "lirc_unregister_plugin" found: kernel tainted. |
| [17:03:33] | CBMz: | i have a Leadtek Winfast TV2000XP with the CoolCommand remote. |
| [17:03:35] | kormoc: | CBMz, that's not really a error, just a warning saying that the kernel might not be completely GPL anymore |
| [17:04:10] | CBMz: | kormoc, so why is my remote still not working? |
| [17:04:24] | kormoc: | donno, you'll have to dig a lot more to find out tho |
| [17:04:36] | CBMz: | i have those in the logs if it matters: |
| [17:04:39] | CBMz: | lirc_dev: module not supported by Novell, setting U taint flag. |
| [17:04:39] | CBMz: | lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, at major 61 |
| [17:04:39] | CBMz: | lirc_gpio: module not supported by Novell, setting U taint flag. |
| [17:04:39] | CBMz: | lirc_gpio: no version for "lirc_unregister_plugin" found: kernel tainted. |
| [17:04:48] | CBMz: | though they wouldn't help |
| [17:05:02] | kormoc: | CBMz, http://www.tux.org/lkml/#s1-18 <-- about the tainted kernel module |
| [17:05:50] | kormoc: | CBMz, erm... there's other places to look at too, like following the directions on lirc's website |
| [17:06:27] | CBMz: | yeah, i looked at the tutorial in that weird language, didn't help much. |
| [17:07:16] | kormoc: | english isn't that weird |
| [17:07:47] | CBMz: | no |
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| [17:08:02] | CBMz: | it was that site with the .lt extension |
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| [17:08:25] | CBMz: | this one: |
| [17:08:25] | CBMz: | http://reboot.box.lt/TV-HOWTO/ |
| [17:09:11] | kormoc: | well, there's always the offical website, http://www.lirc.org |
| [17:10:32] | CBMz: | oh and, is it normal that my /etc/sysconfig/lircd is empty? |
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| [17:13:21] | CBMz: | where can i find the remotes config files? |
| [17:13:48] | kormoc: | check the offical page I linked you |
| [17:14:12] | CBMz: | i got here: |
| [17:14:13] | CBMz: | http://www.lirc.org/html/table.html#@hw-tv-card |
| [17:14:21] | CBMz: | i know the filename, but i don't know where it is. |
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| [17:18:42] | poonj_: | hey guys.. |
| [17:18:57] | poonj_: | I'm getting this error when I am trying to compile mythgame |
| [17:18:57] | poonj_: | gamehandler.h:109: error: extra qualification ‘GameHandler::’ on member ‘GetHandlerByName’ |
| [17:19:05] | poonj_: | which library am I missing for that error? |
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| [17:24:58] | Anduin: | poonj_: It is almost certainly fixed in the -fixes branch (where the gcc 4.x fixes went) |
| [17:25:57] | poonj_: | Anduin, I'm downloading the fixes tree right now |
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| [17:29:10] | CBMz: | umm hi |
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| [17:29:20] | CBMz: | any ideas howto get my /dev/lirc back? |
| [17:29:24] | CBMz: | it's just not there. |
| [17:29:28] | CBMz: | it was there before. |
| [17:29:35] | CBMz: | i don't know why it dissapeared |
| [17:29:48] | Anduin: | CBMz: load the driver |
| [17:30:29] | poonj_: | hey guys |
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| [17:30:39] | CBMz: | Anduin, the log says the modules lirc_gpio and lirc_dev are loaded |
| [17:30:42] | CBMz: | quote: |
| [17:30:53] | poonj_: | when I'm compiling mythtv, I want to set backend=yes if I want to have the backend on my machine too right? |
| [17:31:04] | CBMz: | lirc_gpio: no version for "lirc_unregister_plugin" found: kernel tainted., and some others |
| [17:31:10] | CBMz: | i got those from /var/log/messages |
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| [17:31:31] | Anduin: | poonj_: When you compile you don't want to touch the backend/frontend included options, they are there entirely for people porting myth. |
| [17:31:58] | poonj_: | okay |
| [17:31:58] | Leebier: | so a question i know you'll all hate, but i'm not seeing an obvious answer on the wiki. I know an exact release date surely doesn't exist but are we expecting version 0.20 in a matter of days, weeks, or months? |
| [17:32:04] | poonj_: | I'll reset it back |
| [17:32:20] | Anduin: | CBMz: the lirc_gpio module should be registering itself with lirc_dev (there is a message when this happens) |
| [17:32:45] | CBMz: | Anduin, you mean this?: IR Remote Control driver registered, at major 61 |
| [17:32:50] | Anduin: | Leebier: Could be as soon as this weekend. |
| [17:33:03] | CBMz: | Anduin, but the problem is, i think those logs are old. |
| [17:33:04] | Leebier: | excellent, no need to upgrade to .19 now then :) |
| [17:33:44] | Anduin: | CBMz: dmesg and look at the timestamps, also lsmod, maybe throw it up on a pastebin if there isn't something obvious. |
| [17:33:47] | Leebier: | thanks anduin |
| [17:34:21] | Leebier: | any idea if it'll be best to run Fedora 5 for it? I've been away from my mythbox for a year |
| [17:35:19] | Anduin: | Leebier: It shouldn't make a difference, many distros and many versions all in common use. |
| [17:35:26] | CBMz: | Anduin, it's weird, it's not in lsmod. |
| [17:35:32] | poonj_: | hey guys.. |
| [17:35:34] | Leebier: | i should note, i'm on FC3 now |
| [17:35:42] | poonj_: | how can I find out which version of my nvidia drivers |
| [17:35:45] | poonj_: | I am using? |
| [17:35:46] | Leebier: | and .18 barfed on FC2, forced me to reformat and start over |
| [17:35:46] | Anduin: | CBMz: If it isn't in lsmod then it isn't loaded |
| [17:36:02] | CBMz: | Anduin, how do i make it load? i DO have the line in modprobe.conf |
| [17:36:21] | Anduin: | Leebier: Of course as a linux users you are somewhat obligated to be perpetually upgrading to the latest version of something. |
| [17:36:35] | Leebier: | lol, fair enough |
| [17:36:51] | Leebier: | i guess the right question was, are people running the CVS having any problem with FC5? |
| [17:37:02] | Leebier: | since i'll be upgrading stuff anyway, better to do it all at once |
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| [17:37:07] | Anduin: | CBMz: modprobe.conf depends on something triggering a load |
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| [17:37:31] | CBMz: | Anduin: in newbie language? |
| [17:37:40] | Anduin: | Leebier: People are running the SVN version on FC5 without issue. |
| [17:37:50] | Leebier: | awesome |
| [17:37:58] | Leebier: | so now i have a project for next week, upgrade everything on the box |
| [17:38:10] | evilDagmar: | Leebier: Welcome to Linux! |
| [17:38:15] | Leebier: | and hopefully re-teach myself everything i'd done over the previous couple of years |
| [17:38:20] | Anduin: | CBMz: the most modprob.conf could give you is to load driver x when /dev/lirc is accessed |
| [17:38:32] | Leebier: | evil- oh, i got that welcome a couple years ago, i've just been away for a year :) |
| [17:38:42] | CBMz: | Anduin: oh, well... in simple, is this fixable? |
| [17:38:52] | evilDagmar: | CBMz: The information in modprobe.conf is no more active than scribbled post-it notes. It's udev/kmod/modprobe that actually read that data when they're started by some actual event |
| [17:39:13] | evilDagmar: | CBMz: Easily fixable |
| [17:39:38] | evilDagmar: | CBMz: "alias char-major-61 (lirc_module)" just like the LIRC docs say, hinthint |
| [17:40:05] | evilDagmar: | What that does is it ties an alias in the kernel's data to char devices with major number 61, which /dev/lirc should be |
| [17:40:45] | CBMz: | evilDagmar: yeah, i have that in modprobe |
| [17:41:10] | evilDagmar: | ...so that when something *touches* a char device with major number 61 (ls -al /dev/lirc0 if you want to know where the 61 lives), the kernel will know that the named module it's what's responsible for dealing with the event |
| [17:41:28] | evilDagmar: | CBMz: Okay, so are you using a 2.6.x kernel then? |
| [17:41:35] | evilDagmar: | udev makes this marginally more complex |
| [17:41:45] | CBMz: | evilDagmar: yeah, i think. i have SuSE Linux 10.1 |
| [17:41:57] | kormoc: | cat /proc/version |
| [17:42:09] | evilDagmar: | Okay, in those cases the *simple* thing to do is just to force load the module with modprobe in whatever your equivalent for rc.local is |
| [17:42:42] | evilDagmar: | ...although I take a different approach. I store the module needed in a config file for my rc.lircd script |
| [17:43:15] | CBMz: | oh, right |
| [17:43:16] | CBMz: | i forgot |
| [17:43:24] | CBMz: | i have this line in rc.boot: |
| [17:43:30] | CBMz: | modprobe lirc_gpio |
| [17:43:37] | CBMz: | oh sorry |
| [17:43:39] | CBMz: | the filename is |
| [17:43:40] | CBMz: | boot.local |
| [17:43:47] | evilDagmar: | I dunno what role rc.boot plays, but it might be the right thing to do |
| [17:43:58] | evilDagmar: | If when you first boot up the module is nice and loaded, you're golden |
| [17:44:19] | evilDagmar: | You *might* need to hack up the udev scripts a teeny bit so that it makes a symlink |
| [17:44:29] | CBMz: | newbie question: how do i make a script for it? |
| [17:44:30] | evilDagmar: | I keep forgetting to do a check on tha |
| [17:44:31] | evilDagmar: | t |
| [17:44:41] | evilDagmar: | Using vi or whatever text editor you like |
| [17:44:57] | evilDagmar: | ...just so long as it writes plaintext. |
| [17:44:57] | CBMz: | and what do i put in it |
| [17:44:59] | CBMz: | ? |
| [17:45:18] | evilDagmar: | script for what to do what, when? |
| [17:45:37] | CBMz: | script for running lirc |
| [17:46:13] | evilDagmar: | I could do it if I were logged in, but I'd say your best bet is to ask someone familiar with SuSE's init system |
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| [17:48:03] | CBMz: | is there a global command for running lirc? or it's distro-changed? |
| [17:48:19] | evilDagmar: | Starting lircd is done pretty much the same way everywhere |
| [17:48:33] | evilDagmar: | Tying this into somethign that happens when the machine boots up is distro-specific |
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| [17:51:54] | ghotiboy1: | Hi, i searched the lists and found someone with the same problem but with no solutions (or replies)...I have a serious problem with random recordings...the video will play WAY too fast...the audio plays at normal speed, but then skips randomly to catch up... |
| [17:52:02] | CBMz: | well, i'm restarting suse now, i'll be back soon |
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| [17:52:18] | ghotiboy1: | I think this happens when I have something else going on with the server where I record this |
| [17:52:44] | ghotiboy1: | is there any way to fix these recordings? Other recordings go just fine |
| [17:53:41] | ghotiboy1: | I tried the alternate Video Sync option in Playback |
| [17:53:59] | evilDagmar: | These videos play screwed up on other machines? |
| [17:54:04] | evilDagmar: | It sounds like you're losing a LOT of frames |
| [17:54:14] | evilDagmar: | Are you using a framegrabber card? (Bt8x8 chipset) |
| [17:54:20] | ghotiboy1: | that could be it...yes, bt8x8 |
| [17:54:34] | evilDagmar: | Framegrabber is a very problematic method of recording |
| [17:54:39] | ghotiboy1: | so, if cpu is taxed, i will just lose a lot of frames and it is screwed? |
| [17:54:48] | evilDagmar: | You basically can't have anything on the box with any way to hinder the framegrabber |
| [17:54:51] | evilDagmar: | Yep. |
| [17:54:58] | ghotiboy1: | I am in the process of getting a new mpeg2 card |
| [17:55:03] | evilDagmar: | This is why some of us are so insanely gung-ho about the Hauppauge PVR cards |
| [17:55:11] | evilDagmar: | That problem goes away so fast |
| [17:55:18] | ghotiboy1: | which is best Hauppauge? |
| [17:55:26] | evilDagmar: | There is no "best" |
| [17:55:32] | evilDagmar: | There's a matter of what you want it to do |
| [17:55:42] | ghotiboy1: | of course...i just want to record one channel at a time |
| [17:55:50] | ghotiboy1: | is 150 ok? |
| [17:56:04] | evilDagmar: | If you don't have room for a video card with s-video outputs in the box, and you're doing regular broadcast cable, it's the PVR-350, because it has a video output |
| [17:56:15] | evilDagmar: | If you've got a decent video card already, the PVR-150 |
| [17:56:34] | ghotiboy1: | cool |
| [17:56:36] | evilDagmar: | ...if you think for a moment that you'll ever be adding a second tuner to the box, you might as well go ahead and get a PVR-500 tho |
| [17:56:44] | ghotiboy1: | i view on Xbox normally...or laptop |
| [17:57:09] | evilDagmar: | The PVR-500 is just two PVR-150's behind a PCI bridge |
| [17:57:15] | ghotiboy1: | cool |
| [17:57:32] | evilDagmar: | I mention this because there's one motherboard that's too stupid to use an AGP video card when there's a PCI bridge card around, the ASUS A8V |
| [17:57:45] | ghotiboy1: | I've migrated things off my box to alleviate these possible cpu issues... |
| [17:57:47] | evilDagmar: | So long as you don't have that board, the PVR-500 is just perfect for dual-tuner work |
| [17:58:19] | evilDagmar: | ghotiboy1: You also need about a Ghz to encode in software via framegrabber |
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| [17:58:25] | RaYmAn-Bx: | there are also other boards that have issues with PVR-500. But if it works with your board, it's a great card. |
| [17:58:37] | evilDagmar: | If you're below 1.0–1.2Ghz, you just need to abandon trying to mess with framegrabbing |
| [17:58:42] | ghotiboy1: | evilDagmar: I have a 2.6 or so, but it is a Celery |
| [17:59:12] | evilDagmar: | RaYmAn-Bx: Most of those others are either unstable Via chipsets (not common to newer boards) or fixable with BIOS upgrades from what I've been seeing |
| [17:59:17] | evilDagmar: | The A8V can't be fixed tho |
| [17:59:27] | evilDagmar: | The A8V-MX and A8V Deluxe can, tho |
| [17:59:54] | RaYmAn-Bx: | evilDagmar: yeah. I suppose making a wiki entry for this at some point would be a good idea, heh. |
| [18:00:03] | ghotiboy1: | So, sounds like the recordings that were broke will stay broke...lost too many frames? |
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| [18:00:29] | evilDagmar: | Yep |
| [18:01:05] | ghotiboy1: | ok...deletion time...hopefully this will be the last time |
| [18:01:08] | evilDagmar: | The difference between a framegrabber card and the PVR cards is like going from sleeping on a pile a burlap scraps to a queen bed with silk sheets |
| [18:01:26] | opello: | heh |
| [18:01:53] | ghotiboy1: | i agree...i've thought about it since using Myth in 2004...just haven't had Wife Approval and things worked marginally well |
| [18:02:00] | evilDagmar: | ghotiboy1: BUY IT ONLINE |
| [18:02:10] | evilDagmar: | ghotiboy1: All brick and mortar stores overcharge like mad for them |
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| [18:02:16] | bongalo: | would the pvr 500 mce work okay too? |
| [18:02:18] | CBMz: | umm |
| [18:02:19] | evilDagmar: | Online, you can get the PVR-150 for <$50USD easily |
| [18:02:20] | CBMz: | something IS weird |
| [18:02:25] | ghotiboy1: | sweet |
| [18:02:31] | kormoc: | evilDagmar, ooh? where? |
| [18:02:31] | ghotiboy1: | will look around |
| [18:02:35] | evilDagmar: | The PVR-500MCE just means it comes in a plain white box with the driver CD and nothing else |
| [18:02:38] | CBMz: | i tried modprobe lirc_gpio manually |
| [18:02:40] | CBMz: | and i got this: |
| [18:02:41] | CBMz: | WARNING: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.16.21–0.13-default/misc/lirc_dev.ko': No such file or directory |
| [18:02:43] | evilDagmar: | ...which for MythTV purposes is fine |
| [18:02:51] | CBMz: | and this too: |
| [18:02:56] | CBMz: | FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.16.21–0.13-default/misc/lirc_gpio.ko': No such file or directory |
| [18:03:04] | CBMz: | isn't that weird |
| [18:03:06] | CBMz: | ? |
| [18:03:07] | evilDagmar: | CBMz: You need to install those modules you know |
| [18:03:10] | opello: | i got my 500 over a year ago now for $147 or so |
| [18:03:12] | kormoc: | evilDagmar, I've seen it for a little over $50 once in awhile, but I seem to recall it's usually more like $60 or so |
| [18:03:17] | CBMz: | evilDagmar: i HAD those. |
| [18:03:22] | evilDagmar: | opello: I paid $125 for mine about seven months ago |
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| [18:03:43] | opello: | evilDagmar: if another would fit in the pundit ... i'd get one :) |
| [18:03:50] | bongalo: | thanks. I'm still scrolling up. Im just trying to make sure the 500 won't have any issues with my radeon 8500le. otherwise, I'll need to purchase a different video card or a different happauge card. |
| [18:03:57] | evilDagmar: | opello: You might want to switch to SATA if you try that |
| [18:04:17] | evilDagmar: | bongalo: About the only issue you might have is having to up the PCI latency setting on your IDE controller |
| [18:04:20] | opello: | evilDagmar: probably a real backend then, with raid and all |
| [18:04:24] | kormoc: | bongalo, they shouldn't conflict at all |
| [18:04:30] | ghotiboy1: | on froogle, i see PVR 150s for between $47.50 and $80 |
| [18:04:32] | evilDagmar: | Both tuners on the PVR-500 running full-steam can choke out the IDE bus |
| [18:04:42] | bongalo: | Im using sata controller with dual 250 gig hds. |
| [18:04:44] | kormoc: | bongalo, tho, as you're likely aware of, ati under linux isn't very happy at all... |
| [18:04:55] | evilDagmar: | ghotiboy1: Try pricewatch.com, or NewEgg (astonishingly) |
| [18:05:04] | evilDagmar: | NewEgg has gotten ruthless about the online sales pricing |
| [18:05:06] | bongalo: | lol, a little late for that. I've do have the 8500le working okay at this time. |
| [18:05:07] | opello: | evilDagmar: i've not had problems recording on both an watching a recording all on my plain ol' 7200 rpm seagate |
| [18:05:10] | ghotiboy1: | Newegg = $52.99 |
| [18:05:32] | evilDagmar: | opello: I had it choking the bus and causing weird filesystem errors |
| [18:05:38] | opello: | crazy |
| [18:05:42] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [18:05:43] | opello: | what fs, our of curiosity? |
| [18:05:48] | evilDagmar: | It dont like reiserfs much |
| [18:05:50] | kormoc: | reiser? |
| [18:05:52] | kormoc: | heh |
| [18:06:04] | ghotiboy1: | How is commercial cutting and transcoding with the MPEG2? I haven't kept up with things since there were problems |
| [18:06:07] | opello: | heh, i'm using xfs still, but i've seen some nastiness there on amd64 and alpha |
| [18:06:21] | opello: | (with xfs) |
| [18:06:23] | evilDagmar: | ghotiboy1: Umm... it works? |
| [18:06:30] | evilDagmar: | well, it works as well as it can |
| [18:06:34] | ghotiboy1: | cool...that is all i need to know |
| [18:06:35] | evilDagmar: | I've had the commflagging miss a few things before |
| [18:06:46] | ghotiboy1: | I have commflagging miss all the time |
| [18:06:51] | evilDagmar: | I dont' let it automatically cut commercials until I've viewed something |
| [18:06:54] | ghotiboy1: | I have to manually flag most of the time |
| [18:06:57] | opello: | just touch up by hand before transcoding |
| [18:07:19] | evilDagmar: | I'm put some Cinellera packages in my todo list so that I will maybe get around to using it to do my cutting |
| [18:08:40] | evilDagmar: | s/I'm/I've/; |
| [18:09:38] | ghotiboy1: | how accurate would you guys say commflagging is normally? Mine misses (usually) 1–2 commercial segments per show...once in a while it hits all |
| [18:09:51] | evilDagmar: | Maybe a little better than that |
| [18:09:53] | kormoc: | commflagging for my stuff is around 75% or so |
| [18:10:05] | evilDagmar: | I think I was doing better with the defaults than when I set it to the "do everything you can" option |
| [18:10:24] | opello: | i'd say 90% if i leave it off autoskip (sometimes it flags in the middle of shows) (just using blank frame detection) |
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| [18:11:17] | Jazon: | hi all |
| [18:11:54] | Jazon: | having probs connecting to backend... kubuntu dapper.... any troubleshooting advice? |
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| [18:11:59] | ghotiboy1: | hmm...so the "use all methods" is bad? |
| [18:13:12] | evilDagmar: | ghotiboy1: Ultimately, what it comes down to is how your local cable provider does their cutting |
| [18:13:59] | evilDagmar: | Probably 1 in 3 commercials you see on local cable is not what's being broadcast by the network, it's a segment that's been overlayed to replace a commercial |
| [18:14:17] | ghotiboy1: | Jazon: can you connect using other frontends? |
| [18:14:20] | evilDagmar: | ...which is something that screws things up mightily, since they might not leave any blank frames or might do weird audio level changes |
| [18:15:05] | ghotiboy1: | evilDagmar: I have noticed those particular types...they do tend to screw up detection... |
| [18:15:18] | Jazon: | i read somewhere that i can set up mythtv to auto grab shows from rss feeds with a plugin... so i am totally into that as i am living abroad at the moment... also have to get lirc to play nice with mythtv... i think i have my work ccut out for me hey? |
| [18:15:36] | CBMz: | evilDagmar: okay, i finally got the modules running, and the /dev/lirc is there. |
| [18:15:39] | Jazon: | ghotiboy1: i dont know – not well versed with mysql (yet) |
| [18:16:15] | poonj_: | hey guys.. |
| [18:16:22] | poonj_: | where can I get the MTD binary? |
| [18:16:25] | poonj_: | is it compiled with mythtv? |
| [18:16:27] | Jazon: | mysqlcheck: Got error: 1045: Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: NO) when trying to connect |
| [18:17:07] | CBMz: | evilDagmar: i entered mode2, pressed some buttons and one of the outputs were this: code: 0xc03f08f7 |
| [18:17:08] | Jazon: | ghotiboy1: so i think that ^^ is prob a bad sign hey? |
| [18:17:12] | CBMz: | evilDagmar: is this good? |
| [18:17:21] | evilDagmar: | CBMz: Maybe so, maybe not |
| [18:17:23] | ghotiboy1: | Jazon: two problems...not using password...and using "localhost"...is your dapper host your backend? |
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| [18:17:44] | ** Jazon looks up and sees that go right over his head..... ** | |
| [18:17:45] | evilDagmar: | CBMz: You should grab the remotes.tar.bz2 from the lirc site and grab the config that matches your remote |
| [18:17:51] | evilDagmar: | ...and *read the lirc docs* |
| [18:17:54] | CBMz: | evilDagmar: i did |
| [18:17:58] | CBMz: | evilDagmar: i already |
| [18:18:04] | Jazon: | CBMz: what distro you using? |
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| [18:18:08] | CBMz: | evilDagmar: set up a config |
| [18:18:09] | evilDagmar: | Read 'em again |
| [18:18:16] | CBMz: | Jazon: SuSE 10.1 |
| [18:18:24] | evilDagmar: | You wouldn't have been asking me that question if you'd gotten the gist of what's going on under the hood |
| [18:18:25] | ** Jazon has fought many an epic battle against his nemesis lirc ** | |
| [18:18:45] | CBMz: | evilDagmar: i already set up a config, using the premade config came with lirc, (lirc.conf-rm-0010) |
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| [18:18:54] | ghotiboy1: | Jazon: ok...are you capturing TV on the dapper computer or a different one? |
| [18:18:55] | evilDagmar: | CBMz: So why are you running mode2? |
| [18:19:03] | Jazon: | ghotiboy1: this local computer |
| [18:19:18] | evilDagmar: | CBMz: I can not be fooled |
| [18:19:22] | CBMz: | evilDagmar, i don't know, just to see if the remote works? (but it still can't control my XMMS) |
| [18:19:41] | Jazon: | ghotiboy1: actually, my capture card isn't even going to work here, as it is ntsc and all is pal here. want to use it mainly for music and torent-gotten shows |
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| [18:20:10] | evilDagmar: | CBMz: You're using the wrong tool for testing anything when you already have a config file |
| [18:20:23] | evilDagmar: | CBMz: Read the docs and you will find what tool you're supposed to be using. |
| [18:20:45] | evilDagmar: | Do not guess your way through it. Do not try each tool in turn. Understand what lirc is doing, otherwise it's just going to keep hurting you |
| [18:20:53] | ghotiboy1: | Jazon: from a shell, type "mysql -u mythtv -p mythconverg" ... Then type in "mythtv" for the password (or whatever password you assigned while following the howto) |
| [18:21:39] | CBMz: | evilDagmar: |
| [18:21:41] | CBMz: | well |
| [18:21:43] | CBMz: | my keys work |
| [18:21:46] | CBMz: | i used irw |
| [18:21:50] | CBMz: | and it shows the right keys |
| [18:22:01] | CBMz: | now, why doesn't xmms work? that's my question. |
| [18:22:02] | evilDagmar: | So what's your problem then? |
| [18:22:06] | evilDagmar: | Okay, two things. |
| [18:22:10] | CBMz: | i press buttons and nothing happens. |
| [18:22:12] | Jazon: | i think i left the password blank for that... (oops) |
| [18:22:50] | evilDagmar: | One being this is not #XMMS. Three things. Two being the lirc config file has bindings specific enough that keypresses ONLY go to apps named in each entry. Three is that it's trivial to add these entries |
| [18:22:54] | evilDagmar: | READ THE DOCS |
| [18:23:15] | evilDagmar: | WHy do ya think you have to specify a binary name to irw, dig? |
| [18:23:16] | CBMz: | but i hate reading docs >_< |
| [18:23:18] | evilDagmar: | Tough |
| [18:23:20] | evilDagmar: | This is Linux |
| [18:23:35] | evilDagmar: | You only get to use the fire breathing kill robot after you've read the docs |
| [18:23:35] | Jazon: | evilDagmar: take it easy dude |
| [18:23:40] | ** ghotiboy1 is best friends with "man man" ** | |
| [18:23:46] | opello: | heh |
| [18:23:53] | evilDagmar: | You want the fire breathing killer robot. |
| [18:24:03] | CBMz: | :( |
| [18:24:07] | Jazon: | CBMz: try to look through some wikis man. check them out first. |
| [18:24:09] | ** ghotiboy1 is the firebreathing killer roboto ** | |
| [18:24:11] | kormoc: | I'm gonna put man as one of the programs I know on my resume someday |
| [18:24:15] | evilDagmar: | Bah it takes like 10–20 minutes to get through all their docs. |
| [18:24:25] | CBMz: | all who's docs? |
| [18:24:25] | evilDagmar: | kormoc: Dude I would notice something liek that on a resume |
| [18:24:27] | opello: | i think he wants the tivo, heh; coupled with his monthly fees and fun sound effects |
| [18:24:28] | CBMz: | lirc's docs? |
| [18:24:30] | evilDagmar: | All lirc's docs |
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| [18:25:07] | evilDagmar: | Once you know what lirc thinks it's doing, it just becomes easy to work with |
| [18:25:10] | ghotiboy1: | Jazon: any results from that command I told you to run? |
| [18:25:11] | evilDagmar: | Until that time, it's pain |
| [18:25:37] | Jazon: | evilDagmar: it takes *you* that long to get through them – to someone who has to look every third word up, it takes a lot lot longer. sometimes people just want it set up to use. you know, like people who like to eat venison, but don't give a rats a$$ about the thrill of the hunt. in fact, they hate hunting.... just my 2 cents |
| [18:25:42] | evilDagmar: | If you want to do it the hard way, you can open the config file in an editor and look at it and maybe figure it out |
| [18:26:05] | Jazon: | ghotiboy1: yes, cannot get in. i htink i left te password blank for dumb reason when i set up mysql |
| [18:26:07] | evilDagmar: | Jazon: Those people will be fine paying for venison jerky then |
| [18:26:08] | ** ghotiboy1 loves to eat venison that someone else killed and gutted ** | |
| [18:26:18] | Jazon: | heh :P |
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| [18:26:27] | evilDagmar: | Jazon: It should have actually made the mythtv account with the password mythtv |
| [18:26:38] | ghotiboy1: | Jazon: google changing a password in mysql |
| [18:26:56] | ghotiboy1: | yeah, try what he said (I said it too) |
| [18:27:33] | Jazon: | ok, the mythtv account to log in and so in was set. bu not to mythtv. i am running as mythtv now. mysql doesnt seem to like me right now... :P |
| [18:27:56] | ghotiboy1: | Jazon: did you get logged in? |
| [18:28:02] | evilDagmar: | Jazon: I'm not "read the docs @#$!" about everything. MySQL is one of those places where I encourage reading as little as possible |
| [18:28:10] | evilDagmar: | MySQL is *always* bitchy |
| [18:28:18] | evilDagmar: | It's the nature of RDBS |
| [18:28:28] | ** ghotiboy1 loves MySQL advanced replication ** | |
| [18:28:48] | evilDagmar: | Get in the docs, find the thing you want, and get out as quickly as you can. Heh |
| [18:28:52] | Jazon: | ghotiboy1: working on it..... reading... hehe |
| [18:29:13] | opello: | aw, all relational databases? |
| [18:29:33] | opello: | i can't say that in good concience |
| [18:29:34] | evilDagmar: | I feel like I should have to call out for three virgins and a sharp knife when I do Oracle |
| [18:30:03] | ghotiboy1: | Jazon: so, it wouldn't log you in using the password "mythtv"? |
| [18:30:04] | Jazon: | ghotiboy1: ok, i got a password for mysql, but still no access for localhost :( |
| [18:30:18] | opello: | oracle's install isn't so much fun, but if it's up and you don't have crashes due to os or hardware, it's pretty good |
| [18:30:34] | evilDagmar: | Jazon: You might want to just shut down mysqld, obliterate the tables, and reinit them |
| [18:30:42] | Jazon: | urff |
| [18:30:43] | ghotiboy1: | Jazon: what is the output of the command "mysql -u mythtv -p mythconverg" ? |
| [18:31:00] | Jazon: | ghotiboy1: enter password |
| [18:31:02] | evilDagmar: | Like, rm -rf /var/lib/mysql/* ; mysql_install_db ; mysql < /usr/share/mythtv/database/mc.sql |
| [18:31:22] | evilDagmar: | ...IF the thing isn't talking on a network |
| [18:31:31] | opello: | evilDagmar: wow, not just `msqladmin` the fix? |
| [18:31:42] | evilDagmar: | I'm not letting mine talk on a network so I don't feel bad about leaving it's root password blank |
| [18:31:46] | opello: | mysqladmin* even |
| [18:31:59] | evilDagmar: | opello: mysqladmin is going to want the root mysql password from you afaik |
| [18:32:10] | evilDagmar: | If one password's been lost, I figure the other is probably gone as well |
| [18:32:23] | opello: | evilDagmar: it can reset the root password ... |
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| [18:32:32] | opello: | evilDagmar: if mysqld isn't running |
| [18:32:37] | evilDagmar: | Yeah, but that requires knowing what to tell it |
| [18:32:45] | opello: | dev.mysql.com && search :) |
| [18:32:53] | evilDagmar: | I take the sledgehammer approach when mysql gives me lip like that |
| [18:33:14] | opello: | i've had to do it in the past, it's not that tough |
| [18:33:15] | evilDagmar: | opello: I already said I try not to look at their docs |
| [18:33:24] | evilDagmar: | They're not geared for anything resembling simple usage |
| [18:33:39] | opello: | for administrative stuff i think they are |
| [18:33:54] | opello: | and like any good sql docs, you get the bnf for what the query engine supports |
| [18:33:57] | evilDagmar: | Everything you should really need to know about mysql for MythTV would fit on one sheet of paper |
| [18:34:03] | Jazon: | connect to server at localhost failed |
| [18:34:18] | evilDagmar: | BNF rather frequently equals "Can't see the forest for all the damn trees in the way" |
| [18:34:20] | Jazon: | evilDagmar: how big is this paper???? :P |
| [18:34:26] | opello: | lol |
| [18:34:38] | evilDagmar: | Jazon: Standard US 8.5 x 11. Not even A4 |
| [18:35:12] | evilDagmar: | The sendmail bat book is an excellent example of how BNF is pain |
| [18:35:25] | opello: | heh |
| [18:35:32] | evilDagmar: | Adobe's technical documentation on PDF and Adobe Illustrator format are another, even more sadistic example |
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| [18:35:50] | Jazon: | ghotiboy1: well, i can get into mysql with mysql -u root -p now at mysql>_ |
| [18:35:55] | evilDagmar: | I wrote a perl program to take mapping data from EverQuest and make Adobe Illustrator maps with it |
| [18:36:25] | evilDagmar: | The only way I could make the f*cker work was to just sit down and write a subroutine for each section of the docs, with no thought to design or order |
| [18:36:49] | evilDagmar: | I was literally making subs that took in data I had no idea what the hell it was, doing the proscribed things to it, and passing it along. |
| [18:36:52] | evilDagmar: | ...and it worked. |
| [18:37:21] | evilDagmar: | ...becuase their damn docs don't explain *anything* without you having to chase every BNF entry three hops in every direction just to find out what it all means |
| [18:37:28] | evilDagmar: | s/entry/item/; |
| [18:37:34] | opello: | heh |
| [18:38:02] | evilDagmar: | This was the 2.0 version of the code I wrote |
| [18:38:23] | evilDagmar: | The 1.0 version I gave up after six hours of reading and started using Adobe Illustrator to make images with squares and circles and reverse engineering everything |
| [18:38:34] | opello: | heh |
| [18:38:37] | opello: | sounds like fun |
| [18:38:38] | evilDagmar: | ...which worked, but took longer to do |
| [18:38:51] | ghotiboy1: | Jazon: now that you are logged in, and you looked up how to change a password, change the password for the "mythtv" user to be "mythtv" |
| [18:39:34] | evilDagmar: | opello: What's even more twisted is that one of their things is about a packed data structure format they like to use... |
| [18:39:45] | evilDagmar: | ...which has it's own technical specification larger than the adobe illustrator format spec |
| [18:39:51] | evilDagmar: | *BLISS* |
| [18:40:05] | opello: | that doesn't seem very shocking :) |
| [18:40:13] | evilDagmar: | In summary, BNF is only good if you already know what you're doing and just need a syntax reminder |
| [18:40:32] | evilDagmar: | It's the most painful way to describe anything to someone who doesn't already know it if the system is a complex one |
| [18:40:51] | opello: | but it's a complete description, which i find nice |
| [18:41:00] | opello: | rarely do you get such completeness from anything |
| [18:42:13] | evilDagmar: | This is true, but if I'm trying to read up on how to tie my shoes, I don't need to be blinded by the sections on eyelet sizes and shoestring weaves |
| [18:42:28] | ** ghotiboy1 needs a weave ** | |
| [18:42:31] | opello: | lol |
| [18:42:53] | Jazon: | ghotiboy1: urrfff i am not getting anywhere. let me tell you what i have done... |
| [18:44:24] | Jazon: | $ mysql -u root -p ==> use mysql; ==> update user set password="mythtv" where User='mythtv'; ==> flush privileges; ==> quit |
| [18:44:47] | ghotiboy1: | Jazon: OK, if you run this command you are on your own, since I'm NOT a mysql expert, but type the following: use mysql; update user set password=PASSWORD('mythtv') where user='mythtv'; |
| [18:45:06] | ghotiboy1: | I think you were almost there but needed the "PASSWORD()" command |
| [18:45:08] | opello: | yeah you need to hash the password |
| [18:45:08] | Jazon: | ahhhhhhh ok, sorry about this |
| [18:45:15] | ghotiboy1: | np |
| [18:45:19] | evilDagmar: | It's suppsoed to be able to hash it for you |
| [18:45:30] | evilDagmar: | Oh yea with that function |
| [18:45:37] | opello: | evilDagmar: only if you set password for user@host = 'blah'? |
| [18:45:43] | opello: | oh |
| [18:46:16] | Jazon: | :D:D:D |
| [18:46:21] | ghotiboy1: | connected? |
| [18:46:34] | Jazon: | ghotiboy1: yup |
| [18:46:38] | ghotiboy1: | sweet |
| [18:46:49] | ghotiboy1: | now you just need to update your "mysql.txt" file |
| [18:46:58] | Jazon: | :/ |
| [18:46:59] | ghotiboy1: | for mythtv, that is |
| [18:47:08] | ghotiboy1: | or run mythtv-setup |
| [18:47:19] | ** Jazon opts for option #2 ** | |
| [18:47:40] | ** ghotiboy1 is too much of a nerd for GUIs ** | |
| [18:47:50] | ** ghotiboy1 loves VI all night long ** | |
| [18:48:01] | Juski: | ghotiboy1: isn't impressing anybody |
| [18:48:18] | evilDagmar: | <- not a fan of point and grunt interfaces |
| [18:48:28] | ghotiboy1: | i realize that with everyone else being a nerd here as well |
| [18:48:51] | Juski: | there is a limit though. being a nerd for the sake of it has no point whatsoever |
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| [18:49:27] | Juski: | by your rationale why shouldn't Isaac & the guys just have left mythtv as a command line set of tools? :-P |
| [18:49:50] | ghotiboy1: | Yeah, why didn't they? It's that whole WAF |
| [18:49:52] | evilDagmar: | NOpe |
| [18:50:00] | ghotiboy1: | dern Wives |
| [18:50:02] | evilDagmar: | Point and grunt is fine, when all you need to do is grunt |
| [18:50:04] | kothog: | i wish more stuff were cli.. |
| [18:50:22] | Juski: | see.. there's a limit. too much nerdiness is killing Linux. always has |
| [18:50:41] | ghotiboy1: | i wish there were a plugin for Myth that created ASCII-ART movies |
| [18:50:46] | evilDagmar: | I prefer to think of it as wide-spread mental retardation is slowing Linux down |
| [18:50:51] | kothog: | the user population is irrelevant. the developer population has critical mass: the project is effectively immortal whether users use it or not. |
| [18:50:58] | Juski: | god, get over the M@tr1x already |
| [18:51:05] | opello: | lol |
| [18:51:19] | ghotiboy1: | "See! There goes a blonde!" |
| [18:51:24] | evilDagmar: | ghotiboy1: There are v4l output modules that filter to text if you liek that sort of thing |
| [18:51:33] | ghotiboy1: | PERFECT! |
| [18:51:38] | ghotiboy1: | my wife will love it |
| [18:51:39] | evilDagmar: | You could, with a very minimal amount of hacking, probably make MythTV do it's output through aalib |
| [18:51:51] | Jazon: | well.... now i cant connect to the master backend server at all – it wont even let the front end run .... |
| [18:51:57] | evilDagmar: | These are not the acts of sane men |
| [18:52:00] | ** Jazon takes two steps backwards ** | |
| [18:52:05] | Juski: | you guys should hear yourselves.. rofl |
| [18:52:26] | ghotiboy1: | Jazon: Did you run mythtvsetup? |
| [18:52:31] | Jazon: | ghotiboy1: yup |
| [18:52:32] | kormoc: | Juski, that's what logs are for |
| [18:52:47] | Jazon: | it had some wild lookin password in it, so i changed it to mythtv |
| [18:52:50] | ** ghotiboy1 turns up the echo to hear himself ** | |
| [18:52:54] | Juski: | the threat of bash.org obviously isn't being a deterent anymore :) |
| [18:52:55] | Jazon: | ghotiboy1: was that a mistake? |
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| [18:53:24] | Juski: | Jazon: if this is on ubuntu, I heard it makes a random password & writes the mysql.txt file with that password |
| [18:53:28] | evilDagmar: | Juski: It only works against people having netsex with their mother |
| [18:53:48] | liran_: | Juski: what does that? |
| [18:53:54] | Juski: | yeh the best bash.org quotes are still the oldest |
| [18:54:05] | Juski: | the ubuntu installer thingy does it. nice, eh? |
| [18:54:08] | Jazon: | Juski: that is one helluva good guess m8. i am using kubuntu dapper. so.... ii have to edit a file... where is it locarted? |
| [18:54:12] | liran_: | hehe |
| [18:54:22] | liran_: | no idea, i always installed mythtv on deban |
| [18:54:23] | Juski: | Jazon: you shoulda left it as it was |
| [18:54:30] | ghotiboy1: | ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [18:54:32] | Jazon: | Juski: i see that :( |
| [18:54:39] | Juski: | now you'll have to change the mythtv mysql password |
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| [18:54:49] | ghotiboy1: | Juski: he just did |
| [18:55:12] | Jazon: | i just did! |
| [18:55:14] | Jazon: | heh |
| [18:55:16] | Juski: | but hey Jazon it's not your fault... the installer doesn't tell you what it's doing and it ain't documented AFAIK so how were you sposed to know? |
| [18:55:30] | ghotiboy1: | Jazon: ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [18:55:36] | Juski: | Jazon: ok then.. mysql.txt should have the new mythtv mysql password in it |
| [18:55:38] | ghotiboy1: | if it exists |
| [18:55:43] | Juski: | (put into it) |
| [18:56:31] | Juski: | oh the irony of something designed to simplify the install for you. Lord knows why they chose to use a random password though |
| [18:57:18] | Jazon: | it exists. it is set right far as i can tell... wtf is going on?!?! |
| [18:57:32] | Jazon: | DBHostName=localhost |
| [18:57:32] | evilDagmar: | Juski: Worms are why |
| [18:57:32] | Jazon: | DBUserName=mythtv |
| [18:57:32] | Jazon: | DBPassword=mythtv |
| [18:57:33] | Jazon: | DBName=mythconverg |
| [18:57:33] | Jazon: | DBType=QMYSQL3 |
| [18:57:51] | ** Jazon looks around for a flood warning ... *sorry* hehe ** | |
| [18:58:07] | Juski: | Jazon and the mythtv mysql user now has a password of 'mythtv' ? i.e. you set it as that? |
| [18:58:33] | Juski: | did you FLUSH PRIVILEGES ? |
| [18:59:00] | Juski: | ahh pizza time :) |
| [18:59:04] | Jazon: | Juski: of course |
| [19:00:59] | ghotiboy1: | Jazon: so, you can do the following: "mysql -u mysql -p mythconverg" with a password of "mysql" and it logs you in? |
| [19:01:26] | Jazon: | errrmmm, no |
| [19:01:32] | ghotiboy1: | aha!!!!! |
| [19:01:46] | Jazon: | the password is something different |
| [19:02:02] | ghotiboy1: | huh? |
| [19:02:07] | evilDagmar: | lool |
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| [19:02:37] | ** ghotiboy1 beats himself with a rubber hose... ** | |
| [19:02:48] | ** Jazon is all confused ** | |
| [19:03:07] | ghotiboy1: | Jazon: so what is the password you enter to get logged in? |
| [19:03:16] | Jazon: | i cant get logged in with that ta all |
| [19:03:31] | ghotiboy1: | therein lies the problem |
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| [19:03:38] | ghotiboy1: | I thought you reset the password |
| [19:03:45] | Jazon: | i did m8 |
| [19:03:56] | ghotiboy1: | hmmmm |
| [19:03:56] | evilDagmar: | So what error message is it giving |
| [19:04:04] | Jazon: | access denied |
| [19:04:11] | Jazon: | i changed the password for root |
| [19:04:18] | ghotiboy1: | doh! |
| [19:04:23] | Jazon: | :P hehe |
| [19:04:36] | evilDagmar: | So now set the password for the mythtv mysql user |
| [19:04:37] | ** ghotiboy1 cries quietly ** | |
| [19:04:43] | ** Jazon is on it ** | |
| [19:04:50] | Jazon: | wait a sec |
| [19:05:06] | Jazon: | use mysql; update user set password=PASSWORD('mythtv') where user='mythtv'; <== what's this do???? |
| [19:05:07] | aramdune: | Hello, I installed + tried to configure mythtv on gentoo. The problem is I live in Romania and mythtv can'd download program info. What do do? mythfilldatabase exits with error because of this. Thanks. |
| [19:05:08] | evilDagmar: | ghotiboy1: See what typing commands in blindly leads to? |
| [19:05:27] | ghotiboy1: | Jazon: it sets the mythtv password to "mythtv" |
| [19:05:42] | Jazon: | right. isnt that what i want? 'cause i DID that |
| [19:05:54] | ghotiboy1: | evilDagmar: you said yourself that you avoid Mysql docs at all costs |
| [19:06:00] | evilDagmar: | Yep. |
| [19:06:05] | evilDagmar: | This doesn't mean parroting commands. |
| [19:06:06] | Jazon: | <ghotiboy1> Jazon: so, you can do the following: "mysql -u mysql -p mythconverg" with a password of "mysql" and it logs you in? |
| [19:06:16] | ghotiboy1: | yup |
| [19:06:19] | evilDagmar: | It means finding out what it takes to perform simple tasks and stopping |
| [19:06:25] | ghotiboy1: | does it log you in? |
| [19:06:25] | Jazon: | did you mean mysql -u *mythtv* -p mythconverg |
| [19:06:33] | evilDagmar: | No asterisks |
| [19:06:35] | ghotiboy1: | so sorry!!! |
| [19:06:37] | ghotiboy1: | yes |
| [19:06:39] | Jazon: | no duh :s |
| [19:06:43] | Jazon: | hehe |
| [19:06:51] | ghotiboy1: | sheesh |
| [19:06:54] | Jazon: | *therein* lies the problem ;-) |
| [19:06:57] | ghotiboy1: | I type too fast sometimes |
| [19:07:03] | Jazon: | hehe i was wondering |
| [19:07:09] | evilDagmar: | ghotiboy1: With him parroting the commands, he didn't immediately notice your err |
| [19:07:14] | ** ghotiboy1 beats himself AGAIN with a rubber hose ** | |
| [19:07:24] | ghotiboy1: | dang cut and paste |
| [19:07:42] | evilDagmar: | Blind faith only works in muslim lands. |
| [19:07:54] | ghotiboy1: | too true |
| [19:07:56] | Jazon: | Reading table information for completion of table and column names. You can turn off this feature to get a quicker startup with -A Welcome to the MySQL monitor. Commands end with ; or g. Your MySQL connection id is 112 to server version: 5.0.22-Debian_0ubuntu6.06.2-log |
| [19:08:03] | ghotiboy1: | YES! |
| [19:08:18] | ** Jazon had that b4..... ** | |
| [19:08:19] | aramdune: | Hey, any ideeas about what to do if I live in romania? |
| [19:08:52] | Jazon: | aramdune: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_Zap2It/XMLTV_for_MythTV |
| [19:08:53] | ghotiboy1: | Jazon: so, what is the problem now? |
| [19:09:41] | aramdune: | Jazon, thanks, I see Romania there. I wonder how I missed it before... Thanks. |
| [19:09:48] | Jazon: | aramdune: np |
| [19:10:21] | Jazon: | sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start |
| [19:10:29] | Jazon: | Starting MythTV server: mythbackend. |
| [19:10:52] | Jazon: | then i get could not connect to the master backend server |
| [19:11:04] | ghotiboy1: | Jazon: check the logs in /var/log/mythtv |
| [19:11:06] | Jazon: | after i type in mythtv |
| [19:11:09] | Jazon: | k |
| [19:11:19] | ghotiboy1: | does it actually say it started? or does it die? |
| [19:11:43] | Jazon: | 2006-09–06 20:10:24.667 New DB connection, total: 1 |
| [19:11:43] | Jazon: | No setting found for this machine's BackendServerIP. |
| [19:11:43] | Jazon: | Please run setup on this machine and modify the first page |
| [19:11:44] | Jazon: | of the general settings. |
| [19:11:52] | ghotiboy1: | there you go |
| [19:11:55] | Jazon: | sorry – thought that was only 3 lines |
| [19:11:57] | ghotiboy1: | run setup again |
| [19:11:59] | evilDagmar: | So run mythtv-setup |
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| [19:13:58] | Jazon: | urfff |
| [19:14:20] | Jazon: | how do i save the config in setup? esc gets me out, but its not seeming to work |
| [19:14:58] | evilDagmar: | why do you say that? |
| [19:15:08] | evilDagmar: | Any changes made in there are instantaneous |
| [19:15:28] | Jazon: | ok, but it is still not letting me connect |
| [19:15:32] | Jazon: | urfff hold on |
| [19:16:01] | Juski: | where the hell has mythtv-backend come from? what happened to mythbackend ? |
| [19:16:09] | Toast: | Hi all. I have a disk setup question. I have 3 hard drives in my mythtv backend to be. Two of those drives will have an area set asside for recordings. I'm trying to work out if I should make that area an MD raid-0 array and run LVM onto that array to give me some flexability how I use it, or if it would be better to just use LVM's striping mode to start with. |
| [19:16:17] | evilDagmar: | YAY UBUNTU RENAMING |
| [19:17:02] | ghotiboy1: | Toast: why add extra layers of complexity? |
| [19:17:05] | Jazon: | nope. still buggered |
| [19:17:13] | ** Juski could swear last time he built mythtv from source everything was just 'mythbackend' and 'mythfrontend'... ** | |
| [19:17:18] | Jazon: | should override master backed be checked off? |
| [19:17:30] | evilDagmar: | Juski: It's still that way |
| [19:17:33] | Toast: | ghotiboy: which layer do you meen? |
| [19:17:33] | Juski: | wtf are the packager folks playing at? |
| [19:17:46] | GreyFoxx: | Juski: they renamed the app ? Pffft |
| [19:17:54] | ghotiboy1: | Toast: MD raid-0 with LVM over the top vs. LVM only |
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| [19:18:15] | Juski: | GreyFoxx: I'm just thinking it's confusing for some newbies enough as it is without changing app names |
| [19:18:40] | evilDagmar: | Juski: They're playing the "we know better than the developers what these files SHOULD be named" game |
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| [19:18:56] | Toast: | Well, I wonder if MD raid 0 will be higher performance than LVM striping, but I don;t know who to ask. |
| [19:18:59] | evilDagmar: | Juski: ...which means we start sending them *all* the problem cases. :) |
| [19:19:12] | GreyFoxx: | What distro is that on ? |
| [19:19:19] | Juski: | ubuntu |
| [19:19:25] | evilDagmar: | ...and grouse about "sensless packager changes" without explaining until they stop |
| [19:19:38] | ghotiboy1: | Toast: That is beyond my knowledge...although I can't imagine much difference exists |
| [19:19:51] | Juski: | some suse package has mythmusic called mythaudio apparently too |
| [19:20:06] | Jazon: | logging out.... maybe that will help |
| [19:20:06] | GreyFoxx: | lol |
| [19:20:09] | Jazon: | brb |
| [19:20:11] | GreyFoxx: | Is that where that came from ? |
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| [19:20:23] | Juski: | GreyFoxx: AFAICT so far |
| [19:20:35] | Toast: | Does mythtv have any other files which should be high performance on a back end, other than the main storage directory? |
| [19:21:10] | Toast: | I'm planning my partitioning |
| [19:21:14] | Juski: | Toast: a single ATA66 HDD is probably more than fast enough for a box serving 2 frontends & recording 2 shows at the same time |
| [19:21:35] | Anduin: | It isn't like myth is consistent, mythtv-setup mythtv-backend, mythsetup mythbackend |
| [19:21:58] | evilDagmar: | Things that run all the time have no hyphen |
| [19:22:11] | evilDagmar: | User commands get hyphens |
| [19:22:21] | Juski: | isn't it time there was consistency though? |
| [19:22:27] | Toast: | Juski: Thanks. |
| [19:22:30] | evilDagmar: | That looks like consistency to me |
| [19:22:32] | Anduin: | evilDagmar: Ah, so myth-tv? |
| [19:22:44] | evilDagmar: | Daemonized programs don't need to be dressed up for users |
| [19:22:54] | GreyFoxx: | Is there a command other than mythtv-setup which has a hyphen? |
| [19:23:07] | Juski: | not when you build from source AFAIK |
| [19:23:24] | jams: | nope there is not |
| [19:23:31] | evilDagmar: | andiun: Is the project called "myth-tv"? |
| [19:23:32] | Anduin: | GreyFoxx: No, of course mythtv-setup used to compile to just setup |
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| [19:23:48] | GreyFoxx: | Anduin: Yeah, but other than that 1 command myth is consistant |
| [19:23:56] | evilDagmar: | Andiun: And wouldn't that make everything else myth-tv-setup, myth-tv-backend and so on? |
| [19:23:56] | ghotiboy1: | Jazon: did you run mythtv-setup as root? you may need to do that to update the correct config file |
| [19:24:07] | aramdune: | Hey, even though xmltv should suport romania, there isn't any compile option for it. ro is missing |
| [19:24:16] | Anduin: | GreyFoxx: Correct, setup has always been weird |
| [19:24:22] | Juski: | what I'm moaning about is packagers seeing fit to rename stuff themselves |
| [19:24:42] | ** GreyFoxx remembers back when setup wasn't installed, just sitting in the source dir... that use to mess up users heh ** | |
| [19:24:57] | ** ghotiboy1 remembers being messed up by that ** | |
| [19:25:12] | Juski: | yeh about 2 years ago it used to be mythtvsetup |
| [19:25:17] | Juski: | on gentoo anyway... |
| [19:25:20] | Anduin: | evilDagmar: I'd personally go the other way for mythsetup, I was just pointing out that commands like mythtv, which aren't daemons, lack hyphens. |
| [19:25:43] | evilDagmar: | Anduin: It doesn't need one |
| [19:25:47] | ** ghotiboy1 lacks hyphenation as well. ** | |
| [19:25:50] | jams: | Juski- back then mythtv-setup was compiled to "setup" |
| [19:26:03] | evilDagmar: | There is still such a thing as the ghost of the English language. |
| [19:26:12] | ghotiboy1: | i used to copy it into my install directory as mythtv---setup |
| [19:26:12] | Juski: | but you're missing my point... if packagers are at least building binaries they should have the same names across the board IMHO |
| [19:26:12] | evilDagmar: | A hyphen is not just fancy markup for letters, you know. |
| [19:26:15] | ghotiboy1: | just for fun |
| [19:26:49] | ghotiboy1: | OK, did everyone notice that the command was the init.d startup file and NOT the actual binary??? |
| [19:26:54] | evilDagmar: | Hyphens, like commas, are not just things you throw in to make the text look pretty--they have meaning. |
| [19:26:59] | Jazon: | ghotiboy1: still getting could not connect to the master backend server when i try to do things in mythfrontend |
| [19:27:03] | jams: | I see your point, but just coping a binary file called "setup" could cause conflicts or confusion. |
| [19:27:16] | ghotiboy1: | Jazon: we have to make sure the backend is actually running |
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| [19:28:00] | Jazon: | ghotiboy1: ok, how? |
| [19:28:07] | Juski: | jams: in some distros, there's mythtv-frontend ... in others it's just mythfrontend. it's _that_ kind of thing I'm talking about |
| [19:28:14] | ghotiboy1: | Jazon:check the logs in /var/log/mythtv |
| [19:28:14] | Jazon: | sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start |
| [19:28:14] | Jazon: | Starting MythTV server: mythbackend. |
| [19:28:18] | Jazon: | k |
| [19:28:22] | jams: | sure I agree with you on that point |
| [19:28:40] | aramdune: | I use gentoo and cannot set to compile xmltv with romania support. what can I do? |
| [19:28:51] | jams: | I guess using mythtvsetup is a poor example to make an argument :) |
| [19:28:59] | Juski: | aramdune: build it yourself from source? |
| [19:29:04] | ghotiboy1: | aramdune: you will have to wait for the hyphenation argument to finish |
| [19:29:07] | dverzolla: | a |
| [19:29:27] | Jazon: | <doh!> f#$k! |
| [19:29:35] | ** Jazon mumbles ** | |
| [19:29:43] | ghotiboy1: | lol |
| [19:30:38] | Juski: | !seen Coume |
| [19:30:38] | MythLogBot: | Coume was last seen 3 days 7 hours 31 minutes 1 second ago |
| [19:31:04] | Jazon: | well, that fixed ONE problem... but still no connection to server |
| [19:31:18] | ghotiboy1: | what fixed one problem? |
| [19:31:54] | opello: | um |
| [19:32:01] | opello: | who's xmltv? |
| [19:32:36] | ghotiboy1: | !seen xmltv |
| [19:32:36] | MythLogBot: | xmltv has not been seen here |
| [19:32:40] | aramdune: | xmltv is an xml tv programm grabber for myth-tv |
| [19:32:44] | opello: | ghotiboy1: no, th eperson with the problem |
| [19:32:47] | opello: | aramdune: |
| [19:32:47] | opello: | # Enable Hungary and Romania |
| [19:32:47] | opello: | use huro && echo "yes" || echo "no" |
| [19:32:50] | ghotiboy1: | hahahaha |
| [19:32:53] | ghotiboy1: | i know |
| [19:32:56] | opello: | :p |
| [19:33:03] | aramdune: | hungary + romania, haha. thanks again |
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| [19:33:08] | opello: | aramdune: read the ebuild before getting out your jump to conclusions mat :) |
| [19:33:23] | opello: | i mean, you're welcome :) |
| [19:33:24] | Anduin: | aramdune: You've hyphenated mythtv incorrectly |
| [19:33:25] | ghotiboy1: | YES! an Office Space ref |
| [19:33:37] | gbarpoho: | Evening. I just bought a WINTV-HVR-1300, but I'm concerned about it being incompatible with ivtv/MythTV |
| [19:33:44] | ghotiboy1: | or should I say Office-Space |
| [19:33:52] | gbarpoho: | Is it compatible? |
| [19:33:59] | Juski: | gbarpoho: you should have checked before buying it |
| [19:34:15] | opello: | ghotiboy1: no, it's spaced |
| [19:34:25] | ghotiboy1: | dang hyphenation |
| [19:34:26] | Juski: | cos so far only the DVB part of it (barely( works in Linux. check the v4l mailing lists & the ivtv lists too |
| [19:35:22] | ghotiboy1: | Jazon: what is the issue now and what have you fixed? |
| [19:35:48] | gbarpoho: | Juski, I can still cancel my order |
| [19:35:50] | gbarpoho: | Just placed it |
| [19:36:06] | Jazon: | Stopping MythTV server: mythbackend No /usr/bin/mythbackend found running; none killed. <== surely this is bad |
| [19:36:09] | gbarpoho: | What should I buy intead. I want to capture the DVB signal |
| [19:36:12] | gbarpoho: | instead |
| [19:36:16] | Jazon: | sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start |
| [19:36:16] | Jazon: | Starting MythTV server: mythbackend. |
| [19:36:17] | Juski: | gbarpoho: I don't think the linux driver will be working by the time it arrives |
| [19:36:18] | ghotiboy1: | Jazon: ?????? |
| [19:36:38] | Juski: | gbarpoho: nova-t, leadteck dtv1000 ... the list is extensive over at www.linuxtv.org in the DVB wiki |
| [19:36:39] | gbarpoho: | Juski, OK. What should I buy instead? |
| [19:36:47] | Jazon: | i had forgotten to make the /home/mythtv/recordings dir b4 running setup and i selected it to contain recordings |
| [19:36:48] | ghotiboy1: | Jazon: time to run the mythbackend manually |
| [19:36:54] | gbarpoho: | Ok. Do they have hardware MPEG encoders? |
| [19:36:54] | Jazon: | ok |
| [19:37:13] | Juski: | gbarpoho: DVB tuners don't need mpeg encoders in them |
| [19:37:30] | gbarpoho: | Oh, Chist I'm stupid :) |
| [19:37:40] | Juski: | if you want to capture BOTH DVB and analogue I'd advise you to get two tuners, one DVB and one PVR |
| [19:38:00] | gbarpoho: | Hm.. I can live with analogue only |
| [19:38:13] | Juski: | gbarpoho: with DVB tuners the MPEG from the stream (plucked out of the air) goes across the PCI bus without ever seeing an encoder |
| [19:38:18] | gbarpoho: | Until Hauppage's DVB is usable in Linux |
| [19:38:29] | gbarpoho: | I just realized that :) |
| [19:38:39] | Juski: | gbarpoho: hauppauge DVB cards work in Linux – just not the HVR cards |
| [19:39:00] | Jazon: | /home/mythtv/recordings//nfslockfile.lock: No such file or directory |
| [19:39:00] | Jazon: | Unable to open lockfile! |
| [19:39:00] | Jazon: | Be sure that '/home/mythtv/recordings/' exists and that both |
| [19:39:00] | Jazon: | the directory and that file are writeable by this user. |
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| [19:39:30] | ghotiboy1: | are you running it as root or some other user? |
| [19:39:41] | Juski: | there's little point buying an analogue tuner for over the air TV anyway. Analogue is dying fast. It'd still be useful for capturing from a set top box (cable or satellite) though |
| [19:40:26] | Jazon: | :D:D w00T!! |
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| [19:40:52] | Jazon: | ghotiboy1: thx for all the help m8... |
| [19:40:59] | ghotiboy1: | working, then? |
| [19:41:02] | gbarpoho: | So Juski: What would you suggest I do? |
| [19:41:10] | gbarpoho: | Buy a PVR-500 and live with that? |
| [19:41:13] | Jazon: | got it.... now, for lirc, and that torrent/rss feed plugin...... |
| [19:41:14] | gbarpoho: | Until the HVR's work |
| [19:41:28] | ghotiboy1: | if you ran the server manually, you will need to make sure the startup script gets fixed to work for reboots |
| [19:41:48] | Juski: | gbarpoho: buy a DVB-T tuner if you want digital TV through your house antenna, or buy a pVR150 / 500 if you really want analogue TV |
| [19:42:06] | ** ghotiboy1 has lost all motivation...time for a Slurpie from 7–11 ** | |
| [19:42:14] | Jazon: | torrentocricy or something rgt? |
| [19:42:20] | Juski: | gbarpoho: but if I were you I would not buy an analogue card now |
| [19:42:36] | gbarpoho: | Ok. Which chard would you buy |
| [19:42:50] | gbarpoho: | I have roughly $200 to spend |
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| [19:43:18] | Juski: | Jazon: torrentocracy has been MIA for quite some time |
| [19:43:49] | Juski: | gbarpoho: I can't tell you which card to buy, but I'd buy a couple of DVB-T tuners |
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| [19:44:43] | Jazon: | Juski: anything else that will do the job? I am looking to automate the process of grabbing a couple weekly shows we want to watch |
| [19:45:09] | Juski: | Jazon: nope. downloading TV is pretty much frowned upon in here (rightly so too) |
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| [19:46:00] | Jazon: | i am out of the country for a while – i have a sat receiver that i pay $90+ a month for sitting at home – i don't feel too bad downloading a few shows |
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| [19:46:15] | Jazon: | while i am gone |
| [19:46:15] | Juski: | whether you feel badly about it or not – it's still illegal |
| [19:46:27] | Jazon: | not in all countries |
| [19:46:44] | opello: | *cough* ot *cough* |
| [19:46:58] | opello: | heh |
| [19:47:06] | Jazon: | same with music (unless you live in Canada :P) |
| [19:47:10] | Juski: | anyway – enough of the debate about it... mythtv doesn't support it |
| [19:47:16] | Jazon: | got it |
| [19:49:20] | Juski: | MythTV is a respectable project & lots of people want to keep it that way :) |
| [19:49:28] | Zider: | hmm.. when I do ./configure in mythplugins from svn it tries to access qt4.. but I thought myth was qt3 only? |
| [19:49:56] | Jazon: | can i make it use the streaming online service i subscribe to?? (ctv newsnet?) |
| [19:49:57] | Juski: | Zider: if you don't need qt4 for anything else I'd just uninstall it |
| [19:50:17] | Zider: | Juski: I don't have qt4 installed.. and make fails.. |
| [19:50:24] | Zider: | sorry, meant make, not configure |
| [19:50:29] | Juski: | Jazon: maybe mythstream can, but that's not the best maintained unofficial plugin I've ever come across |
| [19:50:47] | Juski: | (not to be confused with mythstreamtv btw) |
| [19:50:52] | evilDagmar: | You can just scp the recordings out of your myth box |
| [19:51:09] | Juski: | Zider: are you on gentoo? |
| [19:51:19] | Zider: | Juski: yes |
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| [19:51:22] | evilDagmar: | hah |
| [19:51:43] | Juski: | Zider: you'll have to force it to always use qt3. can't remember how to do that |
| [19:51:47] | gbarpoho: | Juski, is wintv nova cards supported? |
| [19:51:55] | Zider: | Juski: force mythplugins? |
| [19:52:04] | opello: | Juski: qt3 -qt4? |
| [19:52:08] | Juski: | gbarpoho: by linux? yeah since kernel 2.6.9 I think |
| [19:52:33] | FinnTux: | is it possible to define more than one folder where videos are stored? |
| [19:52:34] | gbarpoho: | Cool. |
| [19:52:40] | Juski: | opello: I'm not a gentoo expert – it just happens that I chose gentoo as my first ever linux box |
| [19:52:49] | Juski: | FinnTux: nope |
| [19:52:55] | FinnTux: | Juski, rgr thanks |
| [19:53:06] | gbarpoho: | Juski, also dual-headed NOVA cards? |
| [19:53:08] | opello: | Juski: was just conjecture, if he's using svn it should be configurable with a --with-qt= or something |
| [19:53:31] | opello: | Juski: unless it's an ebuild, then the use flags would work, but i wasn't sure which way he was getting his svn |
| [19:53:32] | Juski: | if you mean _videos_ FinnTux, in mythvideo you could make symlinks to other dirs |
| [19:53:52] | Juski: | FinnTux: but for storing recordings, currently you can only use one place |
| [19:53:55] | Zider: | opello: I don't use the ebuild, I manually get the svn.. |
| [19:53:55] | FinnTux: | yes, I already thought of that |
| [19:54:09] | Juski: | gbarpoho: the nova-t 500 isn't working in linux yet either |
| [19:54:09] | FinnTux: | Juski, yes, I'm talking about videos (avi, mpg) |
| [19:54:10] | robbins876: | how soon do you think we'll see the .20 release? |
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| [19:54:17] | Zider: | opello: but shouldn't it find qt3 automatically, and not care about qt4? |
| [19:54:17] | opello: | Zider: then look at ./configure --help and see how to set the qt libdir or version? |
| [19:54:33] | Juski: | FinnTux: just make symlinks in the main video directory to the other places – that should work okay |
| [19:54:34] | opello: | maybe, depends on libtool i guess |
| [19:54:43] | evilDagmar: | lol |
| [19:54:44] | Juski: | robbins876: when it's ready! |
| [19:54:54] | Zider: | opello: I only have qt3 installed, and no qt4.. |
| [19:55:14] | opello: | that's odd, maybe look in the configure script as a first place, if that's what's failing |
| [19:55:16] | FinnTux: | Juski, yes, I've done that already but was thinking about another appriach. it's ok |
| [19:55:18] | bongalo: | sounds like duke nuk'em forever |
| [19:55:25] | FinnTux: | approach* |
| [19:55:41] | Juski: | FinnTux: maybe one day soon.. who knows.. ;-) |
| [19:55:49] | FinnTux: | hehe |
| [19:55:58] | FinnTux: | I read about feature freeze for 0.20... |
| [19:56:02] | Zider: | opello: I'll fiddle some more with it then.. :P |
| [19:56:05] | Juski: | somebody has to make a file browser.. that'd do the job :) |
| [19:56:33] | opello: | Zider: i'm looking at the trunk on mythtv's trac, and i don't see mention of qt in there? |
| [19:56:38] | jams: | somebody did, even posted it to the mailing lists |
| [19:56:41] | Juski: | FinnTux: yeh feature freeze happened a couple of weeks ago |
| [19:56:56] | Zider: | opello: I have no idea what that means.. |
| [19:57:07] | Juski: | jams: they did? I missed that |
| [19:57:15] | jams: | yep |
| [19:57:24] | jams: | it was a while ago |
| [19:58:10] | jams: | it was a proof on concept and the guy never followed up |
| [19:58:35] | FinnTux: | Juski, any major changes/features compared to 0.19? |
| [19:59:06] | FinnTux: | Juski, I haven't followed development version lately. just happily used 0.19 :) |
| [19:59:40] | Juski: | jams: such a shame. still. it's there if someone else wants to pick it up I guess |
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| [20:00:15] | Juski: | FinnTux: bugfixes. loads of bugfixes. mytharchive (DVD burning in mythtv GUI).. and plenty of nice things |
| [20:00:41] | FinnTux: | Juski, sounds good |
| [20:01:03] | Juski: | jams: was that around 2004 sometime? |
| [20:01:07] | gbarpoho: | Juski, Are any of the NOVA-cards supported |
| [20:01:19] | FinnTux: | Juski, especially the bugfixes. I get a crash every now and then. not too often though. |
| [20:01:19] | opello: | Zider: maybe see what echo $QTDIR says? |
| [20:01:49] | Juski: | gbarpoho: yes. take a look at the linuxtv.org DVB wiki will you?! |
| [20:02:18] | Zider: | opello: /usr/qt/3 |
| [20:02:22] | gbarpoho: | I did! |
| [20:02:29] | gbarpoho: | And it said it's supported |
| [20:03:00] | Juski: | so why did you ask me? |
| [20:03:06] | opello: | Zider: hm, that's what i have, odd that it's looking for 4 ... pastebin the output of ./configure (it calls qmake at the end) |
| [20:03:29] | Juski: | if it's a DVB card and it works in linux, it'll work in MythTV (99% likely) |
| [20:03:47] | Zider: | opello: I'm getting a fresh svn, gonna see if that helps.. |
| [20:03:48] | ** Juski goes to watch MythTV ** | |
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| [20:04:39] | opello: | Zider: in the ./configure, things like this seem bad: 809 echo "FESTIVALDIR = /home/paul/Build/festival/festival/" >> ./mythphone/mythphone/config.pro |
| [20:05:03] | Zider: | opello: hehe.. I don't use mythphone tho :) |
| [20:08:25] | Zider: | opello: it finds qt3 now.. dunno why it didn't before.. |
| [20:08:32] | opello: | crazy |
| [20:11:16] | jan2600: | is there an ivtv wizard in the channel ? |
| [20:12:49] | hashbang: | opello: IIRC, compiling with festival enabled is broken |
| [20:13:09] | hashbang: | opello: I think I got it compiling with a little patching, but then mythphone causes segfaults |
| [20:13:55] | opello: | hashbang: sure, but an absolute path, and in someone's /home? |
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| [20:14:40] | opello: | (that's all i was suggesting as bad) |
| [20:15:12] | hashbang: | opello: depends how festival has been built, I guess |
| [20:15:42] | hashbang: | opello: if it's from source, then it may very well be messed up |
| [20:17:37] | robbins876: | i just installed alsa drivers, but i need to un install them |
| [20:17:40] | robbins876: | how do i do that? |
| [20:17:54] | hashbang: | robbins876: how did you install them? |
| [20:18:14] | robbins876: | uhh... like ./configure then make && make install |
| [20:18:28] | hashbang: | robbins876: in that case, find all the files that installed, and rm them. |
| [20:18:45] | robbins876: | damn... sounds time consuming |
| [20:18:59] | hashbang: | yup, that's why I build packages of stuff I build and install myself. :-) |
| [20:19:22] | hashbang: | robbins876: if you're /really/ lucky there might be an uninstall target in the Makefile, or an install log |
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| [20:20:02] | hashbang: | robbins876: if you can remember when you installed, you can use 'find' to find files newer than a certain file |
| [20:20:16] | niktaris_lap: | hi, can I tell mythtv to NOT use xmltv ? |
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| [20:23:28] | cesman: | well, you _have_ to tell it to use it |
| [20:24:15] | niktaris_lap: | cesman, no xmltv in greece |
| [20:24:21] | niktaris_lap: | hi btw :) |
| [20:24:28] | cesman: | hello |
| [20:25:10] | cesman: | when setting up MythTV, you tell it which grabber to use |
| [20:25:39] | cesman: | while MythTV does make use of XMLTV, if you can get the guide data, you can manully import it |
| [20:25:41] | robbins876: | how can i tell if a video has been transcoded or not? |
| [20:25:53] | cesman: | no, I have not does this... |
| [20:26:19] | cesman: | if you search the MythTV user archive, I'm sure you'll come across examples |
| [20:26:41] | niktaris_lap: | cesman, that's the point. there isno guide data at all |
| [20:27:11] | cesman: | mythfilldatabase --help |
| [20:27:16] | robbins876: | anyone know? |
| [20:27:40] | opello: | robbins876: do you know what format it was before? |
| [20:27:46] | cesman: | well, my point is that you have to tell myth to use xmltv... it doesn't do it automagically |
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| [20:28:42] | allpurpose: | Can I buy a TiVO and put MythTV on it? |
| [20:29:00] | jams: | nope |
| [20:30:18] | cesman: | no |
| [20:30:27] | allpurpose: | damn |
| [20:30:28] | allpurpose: | heh |
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| [20:30:38] | FinnTux: | how many backends/frontends you guys are using? |
| [20:30:45] | allpurpose: | What is a good way to make a TIVO box if I'm a cheap bastard? |
| [20:30:47] | FinnTux: | ...just curious |
| [20:31:02] | allpurpose: | Get an XBOX1 and put in a capture card, then run GNU/Linux on it? |
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| [20:32:50] | allpurpose: | Can I get a TiVO and scrap it for parts? |
| [20:32:58] | allpurpose: | TiVO is pretty cheap, like $80 USD |
| [20:33:02] | allpurpose: | iirc |
| [20:33:13] | Pryon: | why not just buy a tivo and use it? |
| [20:33:23] | kslater: | anyone know details about the hd directv recievers. like whether the control port for channel changing works? |
| [20:33:26] | allpurpose: | I don't want to use non-free software.(libre) |
| [20:33:39] | kslater: | or what output ports they have for non-hd content? |
| [20:34:59] | Pryon: | allpurpose: You can get a decent tuner card for that much and use pretty much any machine you want. |
| [20:35:27] | Pryon: | (within reason) |
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| [20:37:20] | jan2600: | does anyone know what might be causing this kind of glitch: http://dip.crossbar.net/0003.jpeg ? I have them since I upgraded to ivtv 0.7 |
| [20:37:28] | allpurpose: | Do XBOX's have pci-e slots or agp slots in them? |
| [20:37:33] | allpurpose: | Like on spare, for the capture card. |
| [20:37:35] | allpurpose: | or no? |
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| [20:38:35] | kslater: | are you looking for a cheap fe/be? |
| [20:39:21] | Pryon: | fe + be looks like |
| [20:41:02] | allpurpose: | What is fe + be? |
| [20:41:16] | allpurpose: | I just want a mythtv box, and I don't want to dump 300+ dollars on it |
| [20:41:17] | allpurpose: | heh |
| [20:41:22] | Pryon: | front end + back end |
| [20:41:28] | allpurpose: | XBOX is $100 USD, plust the capture card |
| [20:41:36] | kslater: | backend does the scheduling and recording |
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| [20:41:43] | kslater: | frontend does the playback |
| [20:41:47] | kslater: | and ui parts |
| [20:42:12] | kslater: | I've never heard of anyone doing both on an XBOX |
| [20:42:21] | kslater: | I think it's asking a lot of the hardware |
| [20:42:23] | allpurpose: | XBOX is powerful too, since it's a gaming system. |
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| [20:42:34] | allpurpose: | Microsoft loses lots of money everytime they sell a console. |
| [20:42:37] | allpurpose: | XBOX or XBOX360 |
| [20:42:38] | kslater: | xbox is a 733mhz piii |
| [20:42:49] | allpurpose: | XBOX360 they lose like $150 USD, iirc |
| [20:42:58] | opello: | kslater: it's not a celeron? |
| [20:42:58] | allpurpose: | And they plan on making back the money selling games. |
| [20:43:00] | allpurpose: | And they do. |
| [20:43:10] | kslater: | also has too little disk space to be useful |
| [20:43:19] | kslater: | as a backend anyway |
| [20:43:27] | allpurpose: | I have spare hdds |
| [20:43:34] | Pryon: | You'll probably want a card with an MPEG encoder rather than just a capture card if you want to use a single tuner and a PIII |
| [20:43:50] | kslater: | right |
| [20:43:51] | allpurpose: | $100 for the XBOX, $60 for the capture card,and $100 for a 320 gig hdd |
| [20:44:00] | allpurpose: | I'll get a hauppauge card |
| [20:44:15] | kslater: | don't think it has pci parts anyway |
| [20:44:19] | allpurpose: | damn |
| [20:44:21] | kslater: | pci ports sorry |
| [20:44:31] | kslater: | not sure of that though |
| [20:44:35] | allpurpose: | If it did, that would be perfect |
| [20:44:35] | allpurpose: | heh |
| [20:44:39] | FinnTux: | how about USB? |
| [20:45:02] | kslater: | allpurpose: what about a cheap mini-itx board? |
| [20:45:23] | kslater: | you'd have to price in memory, but 512M is pretty cheap |
| [20:45:38] | kslater: | with a pvr-250 it'll do both fe/be just fine |
| [20:45:50] | kslater: | standard def though – no way hd |
| [20:46:07] | allpurpose: | I'm cheap, I definitely don't own hd equipment hah |
| [20:46:52] | allpurpose: | And for usb FinnTux the controllers use usb |
| [20:47:04] | allpurpose: | You can plus a keyboard into the controller slot. |
| [20:47:11] | allpurpose: | You just have to splice the wires |
| [20:47:15] | FinnTux: | yea, I thought so |
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| [20:47:31] | allpurpose: | You can put a keyboard* |
| [20:48:16] | kslater: | mini-itx from via + memory is only like $150 but you'd have to add a power supply and some sort of case |
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| [20:49:21] | allpurpose: | case is easy, that's free |
| [20:49:29] | allpurpose: | case companies make too much money, I just make my own. |
| [20:49:39] | allpurpose: | Using wood/plexiglass etc. Whatever parts I have. |
| [20:50:06] | allpurpose: | kslater, You have a good link to a mini-itx? |
| [20:50:49] | kslater: | I've used www.mini-box.com for some stuff |
| [20:51:07] | kslater: | there's lots of info on the via boards as a basis for a mythbox out there |
| [20:51:19] | kslater: | mythdora even has a modified distro for it. |
| [20:51:27] | kslater: | I have 2 running in the house |
| [20:51:33] | allpurpose: | http://www.pcalchemy.com/product_info.php/pNa . . . 79fadcf8c003 |
| [20:51:37] | allpurpose: | There is a decent psu |
| [20:51:42] | allpurpose: | 330 watts might be overkill though |
| [20:51:48] | allpurpose: | not sure about how much power |
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| [20:52:24] | kslater: | I run with 120w dc power on one of mine |
| [20:52:48] | kslater: | that's mb + memory + 2 disk drives + dvd-writer |
| [20:53:31] | FinnTux: | I'm just building a frontend with 100W PSU |
| [20:53:52] | FinnTux: | mobo+1400 MHz athlon+DVD+RAM |
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| [20:56:11] | FinnTux: | no HD, root on NFS |
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| [20:57:59] | minor: | hi all, would it be possible to get some help with MythWeb and MythstreamTV ? |
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| [20:58:38] | minor: | everything is installed and when the url is entered it gives me a blank page |
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| [21:02:01] | jan2600: | If someone was looking into my glitch problem, never mind. I eventually found the solution on http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/ivtv/users/31640 |
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| [21:33:51] | Juski: | !seen Coume |
| [21:33:51] | MythLogBot: | Coume was last seen 3 days 9 hours 34 minutes 14 seconds ago |
| [21:35:11] | mah_meh: | does anyone know if the latest knoppmyth has dvb-eit support compiled in ? i'm having no luck with any program guides, eit or xml :( |
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| [21:36:58] | mah_meh: | quiet for so many peeps |
| [21:37:12] | Juski: | mah_meh: I'm pretty sure it has |
| [21:37:35] | Juski: | if 'peeps' don't know they generally keep schtum round these parts :) |
| [21:37:58] | Juski: | have a quick search of the knoppmyth forums.. you'll need to sign up though |
| [21:39:15] | mah_meh: | tx, i'm sure i'll get there in the end, gotta be something simple im missing |
| [21:39:38] | mah_meh: | my problems are weird and varied: |
| [21:39:40] | Juski: | did you scan or did you import a channels.conf? |
| [21:39:52] | mah_meh: | i made one with dvbtools |
| [21:39:59] | mah_meh: | i couldnt do a scan, it wouldnt find anything |
| [21:40:13] | mah_meh: | then i got an okay lock on bbc one |
| [21:40:23] | Juski: | if you imported a channels.conf into mythtv-setup then some vital information will be missing from the database – info mythtv needs to get the EIT data |
| [21:40:32] | mah_meh: | now this is weird: |
| [21:40:32] | mah_meh: | http://xmltv.radiotimes.com/xmltv/122.dat: could not fetch http://xmltv.radiotimes.com/xmltv/122.dat, error: 500 Server closed connection without sending any data back, aborting |
| [21:40:37] | mah_meh: | but i can wget that URL |
| [21:41:46] | mah_meh: | right now ive got EIT & xml, should i try removing XML and rescanning |
| [21:42:08] | Juski: | there's a workaround you can do to get the info needed by the EIT stuff into the database, but my easy link to it is down right now :-| |
| [21:42:46] | Juski: | gotcha! http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php . . . hannels+conf |
| [21:43:39] | Juski: | yeh if you just import a channels.conf file into mythtv-setup, the transponder's (multiplex's) serviceids will be missing which is why EIT won't work |
| [21:44:10] | mah_meh: | thanks you're a legend !! |
| [21:44:13] | mah_meh: | ill give it a whirl |
| [21:44:46] | Juski: | lol I wouldn't quite go that far. fantastic yes.. not sure about 'legend' though ;-) |
| [21:45:20] | minor: | hey Juski , i agree with mah_meh ... "legend" |
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| [21:46:24] | Juski: | infamous maybe... |
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| [21:50:19] | minor: | I followed the instructions for installing mythweb and it seems to be partially working, the failure is on loading the mythweb.php page it is blank |
| [21:51:04] | minor: | is there something i am missing or some thing the instructions aren't telling me about? |
| [21:51:56] | jonK: | hit refresh |
| [21:52:03] | minor: | nothing |
| [21:52:13] | minor: | same blank page |
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| [21:52:21] | jonK: | anything in the logs look interesting ? |
| [21:54:03] | minor: | err.. nothing |
| [21:55:18] | Juski: | a blank page? can't say I've ever seen that |
| [21:55:36] | mah_meh: | sigh |
| [21:55:36] | kormoc: | check your logs |
| [21:55:38] | jonK: | are you being ironic? |
| [21:55:49] | Juski: | see even if you'd screwed something up or missing a step in the config process you'd normally be presented with _something_ |
| [21:55:58] | Juski: | s/missing/missed |
| [21:56:24] | jonK: | i get a blank page until i hit refresh — the first time i point a browser to mythweb |
| [21:56:24] | minor: | i'm looking at apache error logs |
| [21:56:33] | minor: | there is something one momment |
| [21:57:07] | mah_meh: | http://xmltv.radiotimes.com/xmltv/661.dat: could not fetch http://xmltv.radiotimes.com/xmltv/661.dat, error: 500 Server closed connection without sending any data back, aborting |
| [21:57:11] | kormoc: | heh. and that is why jonK, I said to do so |
| [21:57:14] | mah_meh: | ^^ anyone ever seen anything like this |
| [21:57:25] | mah_meh: | i can wget that file from the box fine |
| [21:58:22] | minor: | PHP Fatal error: Call to undefined function posix_getpwuid() in srv/www/htdocs/mythweb/includes/init.php on line 261 |
| [22:00:09] | kormoc: | minor, you need to compile php with --enable-posix and/or turn off php's safe mode |
| [22:00:45] | Juski: | mah_meh: you'd only need to update 6 rows in a database table... one for each multiplex |
| [22:01:06] | Juski: | mah_meh: look forward to 0.20 then.. scanning has muchly been fixed! :) |
| [22:01:39] | mah_meh: | i know but im so lazy i used knoppmyth, so im boned. maybe i should setup an ssh forward for u juski |
| [22:01:43] | minor: | kormoc: ok thank you for the info, I installed the packages via a reposotory... I'll have a look at the php configs if that doesn't work, i'll look at compiling |
| [22:02:05] | kormoc: | minor, see http://us3.php.net/manual/en/ref.posix.php if you want to read up more on it |
| [22:02:49] | minor: | kormoc: thank you |
| [22:03:33] | Juski: | mah_meh: you could do, but I warn you to back up your database first |
| [22:03:44] | Juski: | never done a 'house call' before |
| [22:04:08] | minor: | looking a couple of steps ahead, have people encountered any problems with mythstreamTV installation? (I think it may be expecting an older version of mythweb ) |
| [22:04:17] | Juski: | it's quite easy to update the dtv_multiplex table with phpmyadmin or webmin though |
| [22:05:27] | bamnet: | does anyone know if myth tv work with a phillips SAA1730? |
| [22:06:40] | Juski: | bamnet: check www.linuxtv.org and the v4l wiki there |
| [22:07:25] | bamnet: | and if its there it will work? |
| [22:08:23] | Juski: | whether it'll work or not is down to whether you can get it working. v4l tuner cards can be a bitch with so many different options to choose from for tuner types etc etc |
| [22:08:59] | Juski: | knowing the exact make & model of the tuner card will be a great help to you |
| [22:09:05] | bamnet: | ok. Thanks for the help! |
| [22:09:14] | Juski: | and test it in tvtime before playing with mythtv |
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| [22:10:06] | Juski: | mah_meh: want to try a ssh forwarding then? |
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| [22:15:42] | poonj_: | hey guys |
| [22:16:01] | poonj_: | anyone here use lirc with the hauppauge remote that comes the retail PVR-150? |
| [22:16:15] | poonj_: | I'm trying to setup lirc 0.80, but it requires some special version of i2c? |
| [22:16:18] | poonj_: | what is that? |
| [22:16:36] | kormoc: | mornin' Cardoe |
| [22:16:51] | kormoc: | poonj_, i2c is a kernel driver, so it likely needs a newish kernel |
| [22:17:02] | poonj_: | kormoc, I'm running 2.6.16.. |
| [22:17:04] | Anduin: | poonj_: with a modern kernel it isn't an issue |
| [22:17:05] | psofa: | kormoc, or even worse an older one :/ |
| [22:17:06] | poonj_: | should that be sufficient? |
| [22:17:09] | poonj_: | okay |
| [22:17:14] | poonj_: | I'm getting an error compiling though |
| [22:17:31] | Anduin: | poonj_: You probably should use the CVS lirc |
| [22:17:36] | poonj_: | okay |
| [22:17:37] | Kelerion: | evening all |
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| [22:17:53] | mah_meh: | juski.. sorry, just stuck on the phone, when are you passing out tonight ? |
| [22:18:23] | Juski: | passing out? ooo any time before 2am. no more late nights |
| [22:18:28] | Juski: | 23:18 now |
| [22:18:30] | mah_meh: | i dont really need to back anything up because i literally installed knoppmyth tonight |
| [22:18:42] | Juski: | heh ok |
| [22:19:27] | Juski: | btw where in the UK are you? |
| [22:19:54] | mah_meh: | london ") |
| [22:19:58] | Cardoe: | hey kormoc |
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| [22:23:41] | poonj_: | umm |
| [22:24:45] | word: | Captain_Murdoch: found out why it was doing it, i had the recording dir of the salve set to a different dir then the place the recordings were mounted, changed that and now it works :D |
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| [22:31:29] | poonj_: | Anduin, why CVS? |
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| [22:33:45] | Anduin: | poonj_: So it works, there is some issue with almost every new kernel, not surprisingly they get fixed in the CVS version first. |
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| [22:37:10] | poonj_: | okay |
| [22:37:29] | poonj_: | which version of automake do I need?! |
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| [22:46:24] | poonj_: | this is werid |
| [22:46:34] | poonj_: | it doesn't work for the i2c version of lirc |
| [22:46:38] | poonj_: | it works for another version.. |
| [22:47:20] | maddyx: | ne1 ever have trouble with not enough color saturation in their captures with PVR150? |
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| [22:47:59] | Anduin: | poonj_: You mean driver? pastebin specific errors (with some context) |
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| [22:48:18] | poonj_: | let me show you.. |
| [22:49:05] | poonj_: | http://pastebin.ca/162870 |
| [22:49:57] | Anduin: | poonj_: That isn't the CVS version |
| [22:50:05] | poonj_: | for the CVS version |
| [22:50:10] | poonj_: | when I run ./autogen.sh |
| [22:50:16] | poonj_: | it doesn't great the Makefile.in |
| [22:50:19] | poonj_: | create I mean |
| [22:50:28] | poonj_: | I'm using automake 1.4.... |
| [22:53:24] | poonj_: | Anduin, any idea why that is? |
| [22:53:34] | poonj_: | I'm using debian, and there isn't an automake 1.5 |
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| [22:54:03] | Anduin: | poonj_: What errors do you get with that? |
| [22:54:39] | poonj_: | http://pastebin.ca/162873 |
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| [22:57:56] | Anduin: | poonj_: You can't make the right version available? |
| [22:58:22] | poonj_: | yeah |
| [22:58:35] | poonj_: | in debian, there isn't automake1.5 |
| [22:59:18] | Anduin: | I can't believe that is actually true. |
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| [23:03:25] | poonj_: | heh |
| [23:03:31] | poonj_: | got to love debian |
| [23:05:36] | poonj_: | Anduin, what should I do!? |
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| [23:06:55] | mah_meh: | back up your box, and try knoppmyth poonj ") |
| [23:08:52] | Anduin: | poonj_: Look at the differences in the driver (the i2c changes for your kernel are probably just removing lines), or get a newer automake |
| [23:09:09] | poonj_: | I tried 1.7 |
| [23:09:12] | poonj_: | it gave errors |
| [23:11:02] | poonj_: | I guess I'll have to see if 0.7.3 works |
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| [23:11:48] | Anduin: | poonj_: going backwards will not help |
| [23:11:55] | poonj_: | umm |
| [23:11:58] | poonj_: | so I will have to wait? |
| [23:12:01] | colemanm: | yo |
| [23:13:17] | colemanm: | does anyone know of a good guide/resource for setting up myth on dapper? |
| [23:13:38] | mah_meh: | not off hand coleman, i used knoppmyth |
| [23:13:52] | mah_meh: | while its not ubuntu, at least knoppix is based around debian & apt-get |
| [23:14:27] | colemanm: | do you use your knoppmyth machine for anything else (besides a file server)? |
| [23:14:33] | colemanm: | true |
| [23:14:50] | mah_meh: | right now, no. but to be truthful i only installed it tonight ") |
| [23:15:09] | mah_meh: | im getting some help from an ace chap Juski as we speak |
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| [23:15:34] | colemanm: | i've been wanting to set up knoppmyth in vmware to try it out |
| [23:15:46] | colemanm: | i've heard that's pretty easy |
| [23:15:59] | mah_meh: | except you wont be able to access your tuner hardware |
| [23:16:07] | colemanm: | i was just curious because i've been wanting an ubuntu box for a while |
| [23:16:10] | colemanm: | yeah |
| [23:16:16] | mah_meh: | i use ubuntu at work, its good |
| [23:16:24] | colemanm: | i meant just to see how the procedure goes |
| [23:16:31] | Anduin: | poonj_: It is a solvable problem, even manually, also the automak requirements should be the same for 0.8 and CVS, look for changes there as well. |
| [23:16:41] | mah_meh: | at least you're in the states |
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| [23:16:48] | mah_meh: | dvb complicates things with kernal drives etc |
| [23:17:21] | mah_meh: | sometimes i wish mythtv didnt use mysql and so many plugins of sorts |
| [23:17:26] | colemanm: | i've used FC quite a bit, so i was also kicking around the idea of setting it up in FC5 |
| [23:17:53] | mah_meh: | i prefer ubuntu over fc , but each to their own |
| [23:18:01] | mah_meh: | centos might even be better then fedora imho |
| [23:18:49] | poonj_: | Anduin, I'll have to look into it.. |
| [23:18:50] | mah_meh: | dd/ghost your machine, and give it a go ") |
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| [23:25:11] | madfactor: | help |
| [23:27:47] | GreyFoxx: | madfactor: You will need to be a little more specific |
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| [23:30:40] | mah_meh: | hope he's not drowning greyfoxx ;) |
| [23:30:53] | poonj_: | anyone here get lirc to work with the huappauge driver? |
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| [23:31:14] | madfactor: | sorry |
| [23:31:30] | madfactor: | my feet are very swollen and it is very hard gettin my shoes off. |
| [23:31:49] | madfactor: | I am having color brightness and saturation problems. |
| [23:32:03] | madfactor: | The colors aren't dark or bright enough. |
| [23:32:26] | madfactor: | But, I am unaware of any adjustment anywhere. |
| [23:32:53] | mah_meh: | how about on your monitor ") |
| [23:33:04] | mah_meh: | i thought i saw an option for that on the frontend |
| [23:33:22] | Pryon: | madfactor: Does that mean you're unaware of having made any adjustments or unaware of how to make adjustments? |
| [23:33:30] | GreyFoxx: | madfactor: Press F while watching something and it should cycle through things like brightness,hue, etc |
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| [23:33:39] | madfactor: | The colors are fine on the OSD... |
| [23:33:50] | madfactor: | I am assuming this a capture specific problem. |
| [23:34:23] | GreyFoxx: | You can also alter recording brightness and such on each channel. Ithink in the channel editor of mythtv-setup |
| [23:34:37] | madfactor: | Hmmm. |
| [23:34:46] | madfactor: | I think I need a global setting. (hehe) |
| [23:35:11] | madfactor: | Hmmm... I don't even remember seeing that. |
| [23:35:36] | mah_meh: | more options than you can handle, really ") |
| [23:37:06] | madfactor: | I mean for brightness/saturation... I was afraid it might be a driver specific prob... but I'm running ivtv 0.4.4 with hauppuage PVR150 so I shoud be OH K there, right? |
| [23:37:08] | mah_meh: | im sarcastic tonight , must be that weekend getting closer thing |
| [23:37:49] | GreyFoxx: | madfactor: Like I said, you can addjust it for the display with 'F' OR editit for the channel being recorded |
| [23:39:11] | madfactor: | 'F' using the frontend during playback? |
| [23:39:58] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [23:40:10] | GreyFoxx: | That I belive adjust the XV controls foroutput |
| [23:40:23] | GreyFoxx: | if you want to adjust whatis recorded check the channel values in mythtv-setup |
| [23:40:39] | madfactor: | the xboxfrontend must not support XV. |
| [23:41:12] | GreyFoxx: | well, it wouldn't since it A: doesn't run X |
| [23:41:27] | GreyFoxx: | and B: isn't mythfrontend therefore a mythfrontend control isirrelevant |
| [23:41:34] | madfactor: | It is debian... |
| [23:41:42] | madfactor: | and it is running mythfrontend. |
| [23:41:48] | madfactor: | I compiled it. |
| [23:41:54] | GreyFoxx: | ahhh ok. I assumed you meant the xbmcfrontend stuff |
| [23:42:00] | madfactor: | No... |
| [23:42:08] | Anduin: | madfactor: You can xdpyinfo to see (there is an option in the playback setting to enable Xv picture controls which may not be set) |
| [23:42:13] | GreyFoxx: | You can turn on and off the XV controls, you might not have them on |
| [23:42:30] | madfactor: | Hmmmm. |
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| [23:46:57] | madfactor: | OH K, what am I looking in xdpyinfo? |
| [23:47:09] | madfactor: | looking for, rather. (hehe) |
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| [23:52:29] | Anduin: | madfactor: xdpyinfo | grep XVideo |
| [23:54:22] | Speedy2: | Merlin83b: Yay or nay on the $5? |
| [23:54:37] | pushpop-: | I remember seeing somewhere a software KMV Switch has anyone heard of such a thing? |
| [23:55:41] | Speedy2: | pushpop-: It might have been based around "VNC" |
| [23:55:53] | pushpop-: | yea, most likely |
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