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| [00:25:45] | newevmsuse1: | does anyone know how to restore single tables from /myth/backup/mythconverg.sql.bak ? My /recordmatch.frm dissappeared during an fsck/ |
| [00:26:04] | bfresh: | Any experts here on the AverTVHD A180 card? |
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| [00:43:00] | wireddd: | all of my channel's info is n+1 |
| [00:43:07] | wireddd: | how can I fix this? |
| [00:54:26] | word: | i think theres an offset option in mythtv-setup |
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| [01:07:40] | Agrajag-: | gday.. i've switched to svn trunk from 0.19-fixes because i upgraded my kernel to 2.6.17 and at least one of my dvb channels was not working in myth (did in mplayer). but now when i start watching livetv i get spammed with heaps of this http://pastebin.ca/127126 |
| [01:10:49] | Agrajag-: | here's the output from the beginning of mythbackend http://pastebin.ca/127129 |
| [01:12:45] | Agrajag-: | hmm looking more carefully i guess i need to setup that analog card properly.. i only use that card for it's svideo input, dont use it to watch tv |
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| [01:17:51] | wireddd: | word I can't find an offset anywhere |
| [01:20:23] | wireddd: | the channel numbers tune to the correct channel, this info is just 1 channel off |
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| [01:22:30] | Agrajag-: | ok i fixed that... mythtv doesn't tune to 3 of my 5 dvb channels in 2.6.17, but does in 2.6.15 |
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| [01:24:29] | word: | wireddd: the info is off? wierd.. |
| [01:25:55] | wireddd: | yeah when I tune to channel 31 for example, I get fox news but the program info says mlb baseball which is one channel down |
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| [01:42:13] | bfresh: | So I have an averamedia a180 card and I know for a fact that I have about 6 channels that are not encrypted however when I try to watch the video in mythtv I get an error about cannot display the video after its on a black screen for about 30 seconds. Any suggestions? |
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| [02:42:34] | bfresh: | anyone know a script and or location I can find out if my card has the encryption chip installed? |
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| [02:53:04] | bfresh: | anyone know a script and or location I can find out if my card has the encryption chip installed? |
| [02:57:20] | kormoc: | repeating yourself doesn't often help, esp after just a few minutes |
| [02:57:30] | kormoc: | and what encryption chip? |
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| [02:58:51] | bfresh: | sorry |
| [02:58:57] | bfresh: | the 5c chip |
| [02:59:25] | bfresh: | I was just given this old averamedia a180 card and was told that it was not 5c enabled so I'm trying to see if it is or not |
| [02:59:56] | GreyFoxx: | I've never heard of a pci dvbc card that had hardware decryption built in for 5c |
| [03:00:24] | bfresh: | as far as I know cards made before a certain date do not check for the 5c encryption correct? |
| [03:01:29] | GreyFoxx: | A dvb card is a dvb card. the software detects if a channel is encrypted, not the card |
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| [03:03:42] | ** GreyFoxx ponders sleep ** | |
| [03:04:05] | bfresh: | ok but don't they check that on the card first? |
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| [03:17:34] | Ediehow: | hi friends |
| [03:17:54] | Ediehow: | 2006-08–11 22:16:17.339 OpenGLVideoSync: GLX Video Sync extension not present. |
| [03:17:54] | Ediehow: | 2006-08–11 22:16:17.339 RTCVideoSync: Could not set RTC frequency, Permission denied. |
| [03:18:01] | Ediehow: | first off, how do i not get the perm denied error? |
| [03:18:35] | kormoc: | give yourself permission to /dev/rtc |
| [03:18:41] | Ediehow: | just chmod 666 it? |
| [03:18:47] | kormoc: | sure |
| [03:18:53] | Ediehow: | do i need to do that every boot? |
| [03:19:11] | kormoc: | yes |
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| [03:19:44] | kormoc: | or you can readup on sysctrl and do it the proper way |
| [03:19:55] | Ediehow: | ok, what about |
| [03:19:59] | Ediehow: | 2006-08–11 22:16:17.339 OpenGLVideoSync: GLX Video Sync extension not present. |
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| [03:20:04] | Ediehow: | and also, as i am using ati |
| [03:20:30] | kormoc: | you're likely gonna need to submit a bug report |
| [03:20:34] | kormoc: | to ati about that |
| [03:20:34] | Ediehow: | 2006-08–11 22:20:19.482 nVidiaVideoSync: Could not open device /dev/nvidia0, No such file or directory |
| [03:20:50] | kormoc: | why do you have that with a ati card? |
| [03:20:52] | Ediehow: | is it supposed to mention nvidia, or is there a setting i have wrong? |
| [03:20:57] | Ediehow: | i dont know, that's what i am asking |
| [03:21:06] | Ediehow: | mythtv says that |
| [03:21:10] | kormoc: | it's not to mention nvidia |
| [03:21:17] | Ediehow: | well, it does:) |
| [03:21:18] | Ediehow: | i don't know why |
| [03:21:21] | kormoc: | unless you're using a nvidia card |
| [03:21:53] | Ediehow: | i HAD been, but am no longer |
| [03:21:59] | Ediehow: | does that mean a setting somewhere in myth has nvidia selected? |
| [03:22:03] | kormoc: | did you compile myth yourself? |
| [03:22:30] | Ediehow: | no, yum, but i imported mythconverg from old machine that had had nvidia |
| [03:22:46] | Ediehow: | i am using at packages |
| [03:23:08] | Ediehow: | also, kormoc, it still says 2006-08–11 22:20:19.761 RTCVideoSync: Could not set RTC frequency, Permission denied. |
| [03:23:12] | Ediehow: | after chmod 666 /dev/rtc |
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| [03:24:15] | kormoc: | Ediehow, try this as root |
| [03:24:32] | kormoc: | echo "1024" > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq |
| [03:24:56] | Ediehow: | have that done on boot? |
| [03:25:01] | kormoc: | aye |
| [03:25:04] | Ediehow: | ok |
| [03:25:12] | Ediehow: | is there a setting somewhere in myth setup about nvidia? |
| [03:25:23] | kormoc: | I don't think so |
| [03:25:49] | Ediehow: | ok, rtc works now |
| [03:25:59] | Ediehow: | however, it still says 2006-08–11 22:25:37.729 OpenGLVideoSync: GLX extensions: GLX_EXT_visual_info GLX_EXT_visual_rating GLX_EXT_import_context GLX_ARB_get_proc_address GLX_ARB_multisample |
| [03:26:00] | Ediehow: | 2006-08–11 22:25:37.729 OpenGLVideoSync: GLX Video Sync extension not present. |
| [03:26:01] | Ediehow: | sorry |
| [03:26:15] | Ediehow: | glxinfo says drm is working |
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| [03:30:15] | eiggirC: | Hi all – I have a new wireless keyboard with a couple of media keys on the top... whats the best way to assign those to use in mythfrontend ? Should I make the volume up/down keys press the [] keys? or is there a better approach ? |
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| [03:35:53] | jepeltw: | eiggirC, I don't know a better way off the top of my head. Are you using the Linux media key utility? |
| [03:36:29] | kormoc: | eiggirC, if you are using lirc, you can just have set the mixer directly, which I think is the better way |
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| [03:37:11] | jepeltw: | eiggirC, what's the name of the utility you're using? I came across it one day a while ago, but I forgot about it |
| [03:37:48] | eiggirC: | jepeltw: nope – this is a dedicated frontend. I'm thinking about binding "vol+" to "]" |
| [03:37:54] | eiggirC: | I don't know if this is best or not. |
| [03:38:12] | jepeltw: | eiggirC, ah, using xmodmap or the like? |
| [03:38:53] | kormoc: | eiggirC, erm, not lirc, I ment lineakd |
| [03:38:53] | jepeltw: | eiggirC, I see no immediate problems with it, and no better way |
| [03:38:59] | jepeltw: | aha, thank you |
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| [03:48:08] | eiggirC: | okay thats jepeltw and kormoc |
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| [04:03:28] | ghotiboy1: | hello...i have a question that is sure to bring flames |
| [04:03:44] | ghotiboy1: | i upgraded to SVN for some reason not clear to me |
| [04:04:03] | ghotiboy1: | I then realized that my Xbox will be nigh impossible to bring up to speed |
| [04:04:12] | ghotiboy1: | any way to convert my DB back from SVN? |
| [04:04:30] | GreyFoxx: | nope, other than having made a backup before you updated :) |
| [04:04:32] | jepeltw: | mysqlrestore </home/ghotiboy/mythtv_sql_backup.sqldump |
| [04:04:40] | ghotiboy1: | ok |
| [04:04:46] | ghotiboy1: | i'll check |
| [04:04:47] | GreyFoxx: | There is no simple way to go bck |
| [04:04:59] | jepeltw: | GreyFoxx, is it even possible, at all? |
| [04:05:22] | GreyFoxx: | Anything is possible with enough knowledge and effort |
| [04:05:32] | ghotiboy1: | anyone know of anyone with a copy of SVN compiled for Xebian? |
| [04:06:12] | ghotiboy1: | could I just copy the binaries/libs? |
| [04:06:20] | ghotiboy1: | it is x86 after all |
| [04:06:57] | jepeltw: | ghotiboy1, for each executable, run ldd on it and see if said library and version is on the xbox. If so, then it should work. it's definitely worth a try |
| [04:07:02] | GreyFoxx: | I think there are some compile flags specific to xbox's, but since I don't own one I can't say how important they are |
| [04:07:35] | ghotiboy1: | ah...library versions...my nemesis |
| [04:07:35] | jepeltw: | ghotiboy1, is it possible for you to compile myth on the xbox? |
| [04:07:54] | ghotiboy1: | yeah...i tried to do it, but the instructions are old and I can't upgrade X |
| [04:08:06] | ghotiboy1: | X is the bad demon of Xbox |
| [04:08:14] | ghotiboy1: | has to be Xfree86, not Xorg |
| [04:08:15] | jepeltw: | hint: make an extra lib directory, say /usr/lib/svn-myth-fix and include it with LD_LIBRARY_PATH so you don't clutter up /usr/lib with foreign things |
| [04:08:21] | jepeltw: | s/Xbox/Unix |
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| [04:08:39] | GreyFoxx: | ghotiboy1: There is no reason you should have to upgrade X just to compile a new version of myth |
| [04:09:04] | ghotiboy1: | yeah...it is the other libs that require it in apt |
| [04:09:30] | ghotiboy1: | i'm nervous about forcing |
| [04:09:44] | GreyFoxx: | If you are compiling myth manually you don't have to worry about other libraries :) |
| [04:09:45] | ghotiboy1: | I suppose I'm already hosed anyway |
| [04:09:56] | ghotiboy1: | even QT? |
| [04:10:02] | GreyFoxx: | even QT |
| [04:10:04] | ghotiboy1: | it is there, but may be old |
| [04:10:07] | ghotiboy1: | great |
| [04:10:12] | ghotiboy1: | i'll try it |
| [04:10:14] | GreyFoxx: | is it working with myth now ? |
| [04:10:21] | ghotiboy1: | yeah |
| [04:10:29] | GreyFoxx: | then you don';t need to worry abvout it |
| [04:10:43] | GreyFoxx: | unless you are running a REALLY REALLY old version of myth |
| [04:10:48] | ghotiboy1: | so, if the dev libs aren't up to snuff, no biggie? |
| [04:10:59] | DrMitch: | Media Library shows that all my videos have undergone Commercial Detection (The no "$" icon is displayed) but when I play the video and try to skip to end of commercial, it says "Not Flagged"... Anyone know what's up? |
| [04:11:00] | ghotiboy1: | no, running v 0.19 |
| [04:11:03] | ghotiboy1: | just not SVN |
| [04:11:09] | GreyFoxx: | ghotiboy1: Then there is no reason to update QT |
| [04:11:18] | ghotiboy1: | rock |
| [04:11:25] | ghotiboy1: | you make me happy |
| [04:11:34] | GreyFoxx: | this idea of "must have latest version fo a library" is lame crap that compes from the package management of some distros |
| [04:11:57] | ** GreyFoxx generally dislikes auto package management ** | |
| [04:12:14] | ghotiboy1: | dumb me for following the howto instead of thinking |
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| [04:12:20] | ** ghotiboy1 flogs himself. ** | |
| [04:12:48] | ghotiboy1: | DrMitch: I've had that before too |
| [04:12:58] | DrMitch: | any clue how you fixed it? |
| [04:13:26] | ghotiboy1: | didn't...newer stuff flagged correctly, whch leads me to believe it was an upgrade issue |
| [04:13:37] | ghotiboy1: | i also had an issue with my Mysql DB |
| [04:13:44] | ghotiboy1: | ran a repair on it |
| [04:13:49] | ghotiboy1: | you might check that out |
| [04:13:59] | DrMitch: | hmm... i must have a different problem then cause i haven't upgraded it since i installed and it worked up until about a week ago |
| [04:14:08] | DrMitch: | i'll give it a whirl |
| [04:14:09] | DrMitch: | thanks |
| [04:14:10] | ghotiboy1: | hmm |
| [04:14:57] | ghotiboy1: | GreyFoxx: Thanks a million...I will try compiling without the upgrade crap |
| [04:27:18] | wireddd: | so what is the story with xbmc and the mythtv script, can you just not watch live tv, or do I need to get an older version of the script or something? |
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| [04:46:55] | bfresh: | anyone know of a scrypt I can run against my card to see if it checks for the broadcast flag? |
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| [04:51:36] | bfresh: | anyone? |
| [04:53:05] | jepeltw: | bfresh, put a drop of holy water on the card. If the water sizzles and boils away, it uses the flag. Otherwise, no |
| [04:54:10] | bfresh: | wow you don't have to be mean |
| [04:54:14] | bfresh: | just asking a question |
| [04:54:17] | jepeltw: | sorry, couldn't resist |
| [04:54:45] | jepeltw: | I'm not sure, a quick Google revealed a check for the pcHDTV, but I'm not sure about other cards |
| [04:54:51] | bfresh: | I was just told this card was not supposed to check for the bradcast flag but not all of my channels are coming across |
| [04:55:32] | jepeltw: | I'm no HD and broadcast flag expert, but as far as I know, the flag is only supposed to stop recording and should result in downgraded quality, not absence of signal |
| [04:56:17] | bfresh: | yea no signal even comes across the card |
| [04:56:30] | jepeltw: | bfresh, have you tried any other TV apps like xawtv? |
| [04:57:02] | bfresh: | no I will now though |
| [04:59:00] | bfresh: | I just am going to get my money back for this card if it does in fact catch the flag |
| [04:59:14] | jepeltw: | good idea |
| [04:59:28] | jepeltw: | also, please leave a note in wiki or forums, if you find that it obeys the flag |
| [04:59:39] | bfresh: | yea will do |
| [05:00:01] | bfresh: | granted it was only $100 and it does semi work but I will get a better card |
| [05:00:09] | jepeltw: | which card? |
| [05:01:23] | bfresh: | the averemedia a180 |
| [05:02:24] | jepeltw: | not familiar with it; but I'm not familiar with HD or even anything other than the hauppauge hardware encoder cards |
| [05:03:07] | bfresh: | I just want to make sure before I get on the guys case and make an ass out of myself |
| [05:07:26] | wireddd: | which lirc.conf am I supposed to use for the pvr350 remote? |
| [05:08:27] | kormoc: | bfresh, a lot of your channels are likely encrypted |
| [05:09:01] | jepeltw: | wireddd, I think the wiki has a hauppauge remote howto which has a lirc.conf you can use |
| [05:09:34] | bfresh: | kormoc yes they are |
| [05:10:00] | kormoc: | that would be a good reason why you can't watch them |
| [05:10:02] | bfresh: | this card I was informed was made before the fcc broadcast flag was mandatory and therefore supposed to bypass that |
| [05:10:07] | kormoc: | uhh, no |
| [05:10:17] | kormoc: | encryption != broadcast flag |
| [05:10:25] | kormoc: | two entirely different things |
| [05:10:51] | bfresh: | could you please inform me of the differences then so I know? |
| [05:10:54] | kormoc: | the broadcast flag just basically said, you can't view it on anything other then a tv |
| [05:11:09] | kormoc: | so no pci cards could record the stream |
| [05:11:35] | kormoc: | encyption requires a cable box or receiver to deencrypt the channels |
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| [05:12:07] | wireddd: | can you get tuner cards that will accept a cable card yet? |
| [05:12:12] | kormoc: | I don't think so |
| [05:12:18] | ** jepeltw grumbles that cablecard won't be available to us mythologists ** | |
| [05:12:33] | jepeltw: | I remember hearing on slashdot or something that CC wouldn't be available for homebrew PVRs |
| [05:12:40] | wireddd: | someone is going to have to take the plunge and build one from scratch I think |
| [05:12:41] | jepeltw: | maybe not even PC-based PVRs |
| [05:12:51] | bfresh: | ok so then what is the 5c then is the encryption or bc flag? |
| [05:13:00] | kormoc: | bfresh, encryption |
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| [06:42:09] | medwards: | JUSKI |
| [06:43:07] | medwards: | dude I can't get mythstreamtv to work. I want guidance before I compile my own versions of ffmpeg and vlc |
| [06:46:44] | Ediehow: | hey Juski |
| [06:46:47] | Ediehow: | could you help me with something? |
| [06:47:31] | Juski: | medwards: which distro are you using? |
| [06:47:41] | Juski: | Ediehow: hmmm? |
| [06:47:53] | Ediehow: | 2006-08–12 01:46:59.149 nVidiaVideoSync: Could not open device /dev/nvidia0, No such file or directory |
| [06:47:53] | Ediehow: | how do i get rid of that when i dont use an nvidia card |
| [06:47:54] | Ediehow: | and |
| [06:48:08] | medwards: | Ubuntu |
| [06:48:20] | medwards: | they don't have all the flags listed on the jogibear site |
| [06:48:35] | Ediehow: | 2006-08–12 01:46:59.513 OpenGLVideoSync: GLX extensions: GLX_EXT_visual_info GLX_EXT_visual_rating GLX_EXT_import_context GLX_ARB_get_proc_address GLX_ARB_multisample |
| [06:48:36] | Ediehow: | 2006-08–12 01:46:59.513 OpenGLVideoSync: GLX Video Sync extension not present. |
| [06:48:37] | Ediehow: | that |
| [06:48:42] | medwards: | lol, Juski shows up and we jump all over him. |
| [06:48:44] | Juski: | medwards: ah. |
| [06:49:22] | Juski: | Ediehow: you've got 'use openglsync enabled' in mythtv. ooops |
| [06:49:53] | medwards: | [00000262] main interface: creating httpd |
| [06:49:53] | medwards: | [00000270] access_output_http private error: failed to create avahi client: Daemon not running |
| [06:49:56] | medwards: | [00000271] main private error: url still registered:/ |
| [06:49:59] | medwards: | [00000269] stream_out_standard private error: no suitable sout access module for `mmsh/asfh://:8001' |
| [06:50:02] | medwards: | [00000267] stream_out_transcode private error: cannot create chain |
| [06:50:03] | Ediehow: | Juski: why can't i use openglsync? |
| [06:50:05] | medwards: | [00000266] main stream output error: stream chained failed for `transcode{vcodec=DIV3,acodec=mp3,vb=500,ab=128,scale=1}:std{access=mmsh,mux=asf h,url=:8001}' |
| [06:50:07] | medwards: | [00000265] main input error: cannot start stream output instance, aborting |
| [06:50:22] | medwards: | [00000258] main playlist: nothing to playI think line 269/266 indicate the problem, but I don't know if it's compile flag problems. |
| [06:50:36] | Juski: | Ediehow: why do you want to? just turn it off in mythtv, or enable it in nvidia-settings. don't expect miracles |
| [06:50:54] | Juski: | medwards: you don't use a software encoder do you? |
| [06:51:14] | Ediehow: | Juski: no, it's two different things |
| [06:51:19] | Ediehow: | 1.i want it to stop searching for nvidia whatever |
| [06:51:21] | medwards: | uh, no the PVR 250 has onboard that I think I leverage. |
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| [06:51:30] | Ediehow: | 2.drm is working for my drivers, why is it saying it can't find those extensions? |
| [06:51:36] | Juski: | medwards: okees. |
| [06:51:58] | medwards: | Will adding a software encoder profile to the backend break anything? |
| [06:52:00] | Juski: | Ediehow: because sometimes nvidia see fit to miss stuff out of their drivers? |
| [06:52:10] | Juski: | medwards: don't even go there |
| [06:52:16] | ** medwards nods. ** | |
| [06:52:17] | word: | when i go into live tv..its trying to load some file i guess so it'll have rewind functionality or something..anyway..for some reason or another that file isn't there anymore..it tries to find it 12 times then conks out and says live tv failed to start |
| [06:52:31] | Ediehow: | Juski: .... |
| [06:52:32] | Juski: | medwards: I think you need to build ffmpeg & vlc |
| [06:52:34] | Ediehow: | i am not using an nvidia card |
| [06:52:39] | medwards: | bah |
| [06:52:41] | medwards: | OK I will |
| [06:53:03] | medwards: | but I get to slap you repeatedly with a trout with no warning if I get the same errors when I'm done. |
| [06:53:19] | Juski: | medwards: FO :) |
| [06:54:39] | Juski: | Ediehow: disable 'enable opengl vertical sync' in mythfrontend then. sheesh |
| [06:55:01] | medwards: | I'll assume that stands for For hOnour :P |
| [06:55:08] | medwards: | K I'm crashing, night man. |
| [06:55:14] | Juski: | night |
| [06:55:45] | Juski: | medwards: when you're done compiling, build packages of the new software ;) |
| [06:56:02] | medwards: | Now I'm just everyones packaging bitch aren't I :P |
| [06:56:16] | Juski: | hey if you say so.... ;) |
| [06:56:27] | Ediehow: | Juski: im not asking how to make the error go away |
| [06:56:32] | Ediehow: | im asking how to fix it to where it works |
| [06:57:02] | Juski: | Ediehow: I don't know. but it seems to me like it's probably missing from the drivers you're using |
| [06:57:45] | Ediehow: | Juski: ok, and the other question is, if i am not using nvidia drivers, why does it act like it is looking for them – can i get rid of that error |
| [06:58:00] | Juski: | is xvmc enabled? |
| [06:59:01] | Ediehow: | you mean for prefrred mpeg2 decoder? |
| [06:59:06] | Juski: | yes |
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| [07:03:31] | Ediehow: | it's set to standard |
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| [07:06:07] | Juski: | I'm out of ideas then. |
| [07:07:56] | Juski: | apart from: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . sent;#141390 |
| [07:08:08] | Juski: | turn it off cos it prolly won't work on ATI cards |
| [07:13:08] | Ediehow: | Juski: where do you get hat from? |
| [07:13:09] | Ediehow: | that |
| [07:13:14] | Ediehow: | i don't see ati or fglrx mentioned on that page |
| [07:13:48] | Juski: | oh, just the part where someone says "This is why when I wrote the description text for the |
| [07:13:48] | Juski: | OpenGL VSync option in mythfrontend, I explicitly |
| [07:13:48] | Juski: | stated that it may not work with all video card/driver |
| [07:13:48] | Juski: | combinations. It's pretty much only guaranteed to be |
| [07:13:49] | Juski: | semi-reliable with nVidia hardware and nVidia binary |
| [07:13:49] | Juski: | drivers, and nothing else. :) " |
| [07:14:59] | Ediehow: | oh ok |
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| [07:43:22] | Juski: | is it just me or does the 'system status' menu always take a long time to come up? |
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| [07:51:32] | drew: | I'm using an HP Pavilion m7580n on Ubuntu Dapper (nvidia GeForce 7300LE) – When I run mythtv-setup It's not listing any devices... |
| [07:53:20] | RaYmAn-Bx: | Does the device work outside of mythtv? Until it does running mythtv can't detect it. |
| [07:54:05] | drew: | RaYmAn-Bx, well I'm trying to pull from a coaxial linked to the back of the system, I was assuming it was just through my nvidia card. |
| [07:54:16] | drew: | Which is 'working' |
| [07:54:44] | RaYmAn-Bx: | does it work in ubuntu? If the correct drivers aren't loaded it, of course, won't work |
| [07:55:36] | drew: | Yes it's working, with the 'nvidia' driver loaded. |
| [07:56:13] | drew: | glxgears displays very cleanly |
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| [07:59:32] | RaYmAn-Bx: | drew: you might want to actually find out whether or not the tv tuner is on the nvidia card or if it's entirely seperate (which is quite likely) |
| [08:00:41] | Juski: | uh-oh. if the tuner is on the nvidia card there'll be every chance you can't use it in linux |
| [08:01:05] | RaYmAn-Bx: | the specs for the computer seems to indicate that it's not |
| [08:01:59] | drew: | Where can I find that aside from unplugging & checking? |
| [08:02:18] | RaYmAn-Bx: | try running lspci |
| [08:02:33] | RaYmAn-Bx: | and see if you can find something that sounds like a capture card |
| [08:02:42] | RaYmAn-Bx: | (don't paste it all here! :P) |
| [08:03:08] | Juski: | a quick google reveals that model of vga card doesn't have tv tuner by default, so maybe it'll be good news :) |
| [08:04:52] | drew: | Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 |
| [08:05:32] | RaYmAn-Bx: | just one? I'd bet on it being a Hauppauge PVR-150MCE then |
| [08:05:45] | RaYmAn-Bx: | or similar |
| [08:05:48] | Juski: | hopefully... |
| [08:06:08] | Juski: | sudo apt-get install ivtv then :) |
| [08:08:35] | Juski: | oh heck.. if it's a HP machine... it might be a leadtek LR6632 card – in which case – abandon all hope |
| [08:10:10] | drew: | =( I just want a media center =( |
| [08:10:39] | RaYmAn-Bx: | sucky, I thought the iTVC16 was mostly Hauppauge cards.. |
| [08:11:04] | Juski: | it is, RaYmAn-Bx |
| [08:11:35] | RaYmAn-Bx: | but also Leadtek LR6632? |
| [08:12:13] | Juski: | but I bought an LR6632 card from a dealer who sells surplus HP & PB parts... the card is very similar to a pvr250, but not similar enough. I did once get it encoding video to mpeg in linux but audio didn't work |
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| [08:12:48] | RaYmAn-Bx: | 'k |
| [08:13:10] | Juski: | now that ivtv is being brought into the kernel though – the situation for other cards using the conexant mpeg encoders is sure to improve :) |
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| [08:14:44] | Juski: | oh hang on... it so happens that I have my lr6632 in this machine... |
| [08:14:45] | Juski: | wait a tic |
| [08:15:32] | Juski: | 0000:00:09.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and A udio Decoder (rev 05) |
| [08:15:32] | Juski: | 0000:00:09.2 Multimedia controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio D ecoder [MPEG Port] (rev 05) |
| [08:15:38] | Juski: | that's what I get for this card |
| [08:15:56] | Juski: | and I'm on Dapper, so chances are it's still good news for you drew :) |
| [08:19:21] | drew: | I think I compiled ivtv incorrectly the first time |
| [08:19:27] | drew: | This time around seems a lot more difficult |
| [08:19:53] | Juski: | why? |
| [08:19:58] | word: | ivtv keeps saying my kernel is tainted when it starts up...no errors though.. |
| [08:20:17] | Anduin: | word: That is fine, just lazy ivtv. |
| [08:20:51] | Juski: | you get this message if you do things like 1) load a module not specifically compiled for YOUR version of the kernel 2) load a non-GPL'd module code |
| [08:20:58] | word: | 2006-08–12 01:14:41.845 NVP::OpenFile(): Error, file not found: /home/word/Files/My Videos//1050_20060812011435.mpg – how do i fix that? I thought it might have something to do with ivtv but meh... |
| [08:21:28] | Anduin: | word: Check the backend log |
| [08:21:29] | Juski: | I always thought linux filenames don't have spaces in them |
| [08:21:31] | word: | it occurs when trying to view live tv i know how i caused it..i accidentally deleted the video files mythtv created..thought it wouldn't matter |
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| [08:22:34] | Juski: | accidentally deleted? no such thing |
| [08:22:44] | word: | it's an accident now that i realized it was stupid |
| [08:22:45] | word: | make sense? |
| [08:22:54] | Juski: | touch the file back into existence then |
| [08:23:05] | Juski: | well not THE file, but A file with the same name |
| [08:23:05] | Anduin: | word: It makes no difference for Live TV, look at the backend logs already. |
| [08:23:30] | word: | i'm trying to find them.. /var/log/mythbackend.log is empty.. |
| [08:24:37] | word: | theres this – 2006-08–12 01:20:44.315 AutoExpire: ERROR when trying to autoexpire file: /home/word/Files/My Videos//1051_20060810142542.mpg. File doesn't exist. Database metadata will not be removed. |
| [08:24:38] | Juski: | huh? I've just tried to apt-cache search ivtv and umm... seems there's no ivtv repos for dapper |
| [08:24:56] | Juski: | word... so TOUCH the file to make it 'exist' |
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| [08:25:48] | Juski: | e.g. touch /foo/bar/filename.mpg |
| [08:25:55] | Juski: | then myth will be able to delete it |
| [08:29:04] | drew: | When I run "irw" to test my remote I get connect: connection refused |
| [08:29:56] | drew: | It looks like I'm running a hauppage |
| [08:30:01] | drew: | I have a WinTV 150 |
| [08:30:15] | drew: | Thanks for the help so far, btw. |
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| [08:31:34] | Anduin: | drew: lircd running? |
| [08:31:46] | Anduin: | lirc modules configured and installed? |
| [08:31:55] | drew: | lirc was, I stopped it. |
| [08:32:40] | Juski: | lol |
| [08:32:41] | Anduin: | drew: no lircd running no unix socket to connect to, no lirc modules loaded and lircd will have no data |
| [08:33:48] | Juski: | OMG no.. please no... http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/217571 |
| [08:33:59] | Juski: | multiple PiP? arghhh! |
| [08:34:05] | drew: | Anduin, Even when running I get the error. |
| [08:34:18] | drew: | http://www.archivesat.com/Ubuntu_Linux_Help_a . . . ad788643.htm <- Exactly the same problem I have. |
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| [08:35:53] | Juski: | drew: see a mythtv howto for dapper |
| [08:36:27] | Juski: | http://hyams.webhop.net/mythtv/myth_ubuntu.html |
| [08:37:10] | Anduin: | drew: Yes, many people get the error, first check that the right modules are loaded (lirc_i2c lirc_dev), then that lircd is running, then that the device lircd starts with is right, etc. |
| [08:38:34] | wireddd: | which version of the mythtv script for xbmc do I need to use? |
| [08:40:16] | Juski: | wireddd: the very latest – and the latest xbmc |
| [08:40:27] | wireddd: | is live tv not supported? |
| [08:40:53] | Juski: | I don't know/care |
| [08:41:03] | Juski: | didn't work last time I tried it |
| [08:41:03] | wireddd: | cause some message comes up saying that livetv is not supported in 0.19 |
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| [08:41:39] | Juski: | that's cos nobody has fixed it for 0.19 in xbmcmythtv yet |
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| [08:42:43] | Juski: | no great loss IMHO |
| [08:43:59] | Juski: | it sucks that you have to set up samba shares of your recordings though |
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| [08:48:32] | word: | Juski: i'm not so sure touching is the answer..i've touched about 50 files into existance... |
| [08:48:40] | word: | and it's still popping up with more |
| [08:49:22] | Juski: | word: indicates a much bigger problem then... |
| [08:50:03] | Juski: | like the user mythbackend is running as doesn't have write perms on the recordings directory |
| [08:50:55] | word: | i'm running it as root |
| [08:51:21] | Juski: | does the tuner work? |
| [08:51:36] | word: | yes just all the sudden ...wierd.. |
| [08:53:41] | Juski: | ah well. I have to go .. things to do etc |
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| [08:53:58] | word: | Anduin: where are the logs located? |
| [08:54:20] | Anduin: | word: Wherever your startup mechanism puts them. |
| [08:54:55] | word: | if i manually start it in console then the output from that? |
| [08:55:23] | word: | on that it keeps trying to start a recording..that i told it to stop... |
| [08:55:39] | Ryushin: | Does AMD socket AM2 need dual channel memory? |
| [08:56:42] | Anduin: | word: Yeah, when you restart the backend, unless you have an explicit override, it will start again. This isn't a bad thing. |
| [08:58:41] | word: | theres this – 2006-08–12 01:57:48.250 TVRec(1): Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV select timeout – ivtv driver has stopped responding |
| [08:59:09] | Anduin: | word: There you go, get ivtv working right. |
| [09:00:19] | word: | i don't see anything wrong with it really.. |
| [09:00:37] | word: | dmesg | less in the ivtv section doesn't throw any errors |
| [09:00:41] | Anduin: | word: So a cat test works fine? |
| [09:00:59] | word: | not sure how to do a cat test |
| [09:02:10] | word: | Anduin: do you know off the top of your head how to do that? |
| [09:02:24] | Anduin: | word: cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg |
| [09:03:38] | word: | no error...creates a file..but mplayer doesn't know how to open it :-/ |
| [09:03:52] | Anduin: | word: file length? |
| [09:04:04] | word: | er was i supposed to stop it from running? |
| [09:04:16] | Anduin: | word: Yeah, just Ctrl-C it |
| [09:04:31] | Anduin: | (though mplayer not playing it is a bad sign) |
| [09:04:35] | word: | yah i did.. it's 0 bytes :-/ |
| [09:04:48] | Anduin: | word: reload the ivtv module |
| [09:05:39] | word: | yah i did that and ran the cat test again...same result |
| [09:06:08] | Anduin: | word: dmesg and post the last important bit to some paste site |
| [09:07:01] | drew: | I'm attempting to compile lirc and coming up with 'URB_ASYNC_UNLINK' |
| [09:07:10] | drew: | undeclared error |
| [09:07:50] | Anduin: | drew: did you configure it to only have the hauppauge driver? |
| [09:08:35] | drew: | I configured it for a media center remote |
| [09:08:40] | drew: | which is what I was given |
| [09:09:04] | Anduin: | drew: So, not plugged into the pvr150? |
| [09:09:34] | word: | Anduin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20356 |
| [09:09:38] | drew: | lawl |
| [09:09:47] | drew: | I switched up my driver to hauppage dbs and it worked |
| [09:10:36] | Anduin: | word: No other entries at the end? |
| [09:11:31] | word: | [17203084.928000] ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:00:0a.0 disabled – thats above the top of that paste :-// |
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| [09:12:07] | word: | but otherwise no |
| [09:12:38] | Anduin: | word: Which device is your ivtv card? |
| [09:12:50] | drew: | My remote is run through USB |
| [09:13:39] | word: | Anduin: /dev/video0? |
| [09:13:41] | Anduin: | drew: Yeah, URB and USB make sense, if you paste the build errors somewhere someone may be able to help. |
| [09:13:56] | Anduin: | word: No, lspci |
| [09:14:28] | word: | how would i find that out? |
| [09:15:06] | Anduin: | word: you type 'lspci', it prints from stuff, you look for the pci id, or just paste the results of lspci to that paste site. |
| [09:16:27] | word: | 0000:00:0a.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01) |
| [09:16:32] | word: | going to go with that one |
| [09:16:56] | Anduin: | word: reboot |
| [09:17:50] | word: | Anduin: ok brb |
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| [09:17:58] | Anduin: | word: There should be a reason before the irq disable, if it keeps happening I'd spend more time looking into it. |
| [09:18:05] | Anduin: | bah, same box |
| [09:18:07] | drew: | http://pastebin.ca/127555 |
| [09:18:24] | Anduin: | Who irc's from their TV |
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| [09:21:14] | Anduin: | drew: Problem is probably the wrong kernel header location, checking. |
| [09:22:24] | Anduin: | drew: Hmm, no, removed in 2.6.14, is in the newer lirc kcompat.h |
| [09:22:42] | drew: | o.O |
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| [09:24:03] | Anduin: | drew: I'd try a newer version of lirc, or at least look at drivers/kcompat.h and see if your version defines that if it isn't defined by the kernel headers. |
| [09:24:21] | word: | Anduin: it works again now :-/ |
| [09:25:15] | drew: | Anduin, what do you mean? |
| [09:25:21] | Anduin: | word: If it keeps happening I'd look into it more, there is usually a reason the irq was disabled (like it fired when there was no registered handler). I'd give it more time before worrying though. |
| [09:25:37] | drew: | how can I tell if my version defines it? |
| [09:25:55] | word: | now to figure out why my lirc keeps messing up everytime i restart.. |
| [09:25:57] | Anduin: | drew: You have the lirc source, look at the drivers/kcompat.h file, look for URB_blah |
| [09:26:10] | drew: | Nothing. |
| [09:26:17] | Anduin: | drew: It is there in newer lirc versions. |
| [09:26:22] | drew: | 0.7.2 |
| [09:26:44] | Anduin: | drew: Yeah, I'm looking at the CVS version. |
| [09:27:37] | Anduin: | drew: (but the change went in October 29th of last year) |
| [09:28:09] | word: | Anduin: thanks so much for your help time to go to bed now g'nite |
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| [09:36:32] | drew: | I compiled from CVS and now it says unknown device or address |
| [09:38:18] | Anduin: | and the lirc_mcusb2 driver is loaded? (and no error in dmesg)? |
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| [09:48:55] | drew: | when I modprobe mceusb2 |
| [09:48:57] | drew: | it hangs |
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| [09:52:37] | Anduin: | drew: lsusb shows the device is there though? |
| [09:54:55] | drew: | lsusb / modprobe locks up |
| [09:55:02] | drew: | no idea why |
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| [12:27:26] | The-FoX: | hello |
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| [12:55:19] | The-FoX: | Maybe someone can help me with EIT ? I get the following message in the log file: EITScanner: Now looking for EIT data on multiplex of channel 1 |
| [12:55:33] | The-FoX: | Seems to be good, but no eit data is collected :-( |
| [12:55:48] | stuarta: | hmmm. |
| [12:56:23] | stuarta: | do your channels have useonairguide=1 ? |
| [12:56:39] | The-FoX: | yes |
| [12:57:15] | stuarta: | maybe they don't send any on that channel.... |
| [12:57:48] | The-FoX: | :-( it worked with the official release but all svn versions since then didn't work. Maybe it's really a big bug in the svn versions? |
| [12:58:04] | The-FoX: | But other people told me that it works with theier svnversion |
| [12:58:07] | stuarta: | nope it's working fine for me.... so we need to work this out... |
| [12:59:46] | stuarta: | does tv_grab_dvb return appropriate information? |
| [13:05:52] | stuarta: | you'll need to stop the backend, tzap/szap/czap to the channel, and then run tv_grab_dvb |
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| [13:07:48] | stuarta: | The-FoX: do you have serviceid's in your database for the channels? |
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| [13:08:18] | The-FoX: | one moment |
| [13:08:19] | janneg: | stuarta: transport and network ids. |
| [13:08:44] | janneg: | without service id tv wouldn't work |
| [13:09:05] | stuarta: | The-FoX: what janneg said.... |
| [13:10:25] | stuarta: | janneg: there isn't transport or network id's in the channel table. |
| [13:10:44] | The-FoX: | The column serviceid is set in the database... i used the channels.conf to import the channels |
| [13:11:05] | janneg: | stuarta: it is in dtv_multiplex |
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| [13:11:22] | stuarta: | The-FoX: networkid & transportid in dtv_multiplex |
| [13:11:41] | janneg: | and with channels.conf import they are not set |
| [13:11:57] | janneg: | The-FoX: try to scan all known transponders |
| [13:12:39] | janneg: | the scanner should set networkid & transportid then |
| [13:12:46] | The-FoX: | Where is the column networkid and transportid? |
| [13:13:09] | stuarta: | dtv_multiplex |
| [13:13:12] | The-FoX: | I used the channels.conf import mthod, cause the scanner doesn't find anything :-( i use dvb-t in germany btw. |
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| [13:13:33] | The-FoX: | The dtv-table is filled with 6 entries |
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| [13:13:49] | janneg: | The-FoX: where in germany? |
| [13:13:51] | The-FoX: | But transportidand networkid is really empty...mmh...where to get this values from? |
| [13:13:57] | The-FoX: | Janneg: Hannover |
| [13:14:16] | janneg: | 15:11 < janneg> The-FoX: try to scan all known transponders, the scanner should set networkid & transportid then |
| [13:14:56] | The-FoX: | Janneg: you mena the scanner of mythtv-setup? As i mentioned: this scanner doesn't find any channel, but i'll try |
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| [13:17:19] | janneg: | The-FoX: yes. and with "scan all known transports" it doesn't not really search for channels |
| [13:17:48] | janneg: | i.e. if tv works then this works too |
| [13:24:04] | The-FoX: | Janneg: i always tried: fullscan |
| [13:24:30] | stuarta: | what version is this with? |
| [13:25:31] | janneg: | The-FoX: "full scan: germany" is supposed to work |
| [13:25:34] | dev: | wish i could figure out why mythbackend on my masterbackend dies randomly :/ |
| [13:25:56] | dev: | little bit annoying to get up in hte morning and find it died at midnight and missed recording a bunch of stuff |
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| [13:26:04] | janneg: | dev: what version |
| [13:26:10] | dev: | 0.19-fixes |
| [13:26:12] | The-FoX: | How to figure out which svn version i use? |
| [13:26:29] | The-FoX: | Mythbackend --version shows only the libmyth version |
| [13:26:34] | stuarta: | The-FoX: where did you get it from? |
| [13:26:43] | janneg: | svn info |
| [13:26:46] | The-FoX: | It's the gentoo svn package |
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| [13:27:04] | janneg: | but the libmyth version is a hint |
| [13:27:35] | The-FoX: | Library API version: 0.19.20060708–1 |
| [13:28:06] | The-FoX: | It the version from 6th august |
| [13:28:17] | stuarta: | what does source code version say...? |
| [13:28:20] | dev: | ive enabled all logging for mythbackend, but all i get in my logs is 'event socket closed. no connections to the backend' followed shortly by 'connecting to backend..' then 'trying to wake up the masterbackend' and it just keeps repeating.. |
| [13:28:30] | The-FoX: | Stuarta: where can i find this? |
| [13:28:56] | stuarta: | should be printed just under Library API |
| [13:28:58] | dev: | if i restart the masterbackend, the 2 slaves try to connect immediately and i get 'Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION' — i have to shut down the master and the slaves, bring up the master again, then bring up the slaves one at a time |
| [13:29:43] | dev: | then, everything works for a week or so again until the masterbackend dies unexpectly, rinse repeat |
| [13:30:08] | stuarta: | dev: believe that's been fixed in head |
| [13:30:41] | dev: | ah.. |
| [13:30:41] | dev: | nice |
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| [13:31:53] | dev: | when i upgraded from 0.18 to 0.19, it was not fun. the new way livetv was done depended on the filesystem being speedy, not slow-mo ext3 on a single disk and 4 tuners and 2 backends... i had to build a whole new setup with xfs heh |
| [13:32:10] | dev: | hopefully 0.19 to 0.20 or head will be... smoother.. :) |
| [13:32:19] | The-FoX: | Stuarta: : Source code version: exported ...mmh...mysterious version |
| [13:32:40] | stuarta: | dev: no funky livetv changes :) |
| [13:32:53] | stuarta: | The-FoX: mine show 10734M |
| [13:33:43] | janneg: | in the build directory were no .svn directories |
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| [13:33:46] | fir3st0rm: | hi |
| [13:34:02] | fir3st0rm: | someone here who got mythfrontend running on the macbook? |
| [13:34:11] | stuarta: | janneg: the ebuild probably strips them... |
| [13:35:16] | janneg: | yes |
| [13:35:50] | dev: | is head stable? |
| [13:36:37] | janneg: | stuarta: I suppose you have no or little knowledge of the osd code? I try to figure out why the edit marks are misplaced |
| [13:36:37] | stuarta: | dev: yes, although I install a new version every day.... |
| [13:37:26] | dev: | welp.. might as well take the plunge i guess. 0.20 doesnt look far off so it must be getting there |
| [13:37:57] | stuarta: | janneg: not a lot. best thing would be to read back over the archives when the osd marks were misplaced before.. |
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| [13:38:50] | The-FoX: | Janneg: : seems that the fullscan now works...it found already some channels |
| [13:39:36] | The-FoX: | And transportid andnetworkid are set...seems good,but i would never come to this solution that there are missing two values |
| [13:40:55] | stuarta: | The-FoX: it's a known issue with channel.conf import... |
| [13:41:44] | janneg: | stuarta: I know how to solve one part of the problem already. the remaining part is figuring out why they are placed differently after a resulotion/aspect ratio change |
| [13:42:42] | stuarta: | IIRC it's due to the fact that you need different coordinates for different resolutions to keep it in the same spot |
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| [13:46:33] | janneg: | no, it must be some sort initialization problem. the cordinates are recalculated. but even if I change back to the old resulotion/aspect ratio they stay at the different place |
| [13:47:33] | Plex: | anyone know why my transcoding daemon isn't running from boot? any way to get it going on startup? |
| [13:48:06] | stuarta: | Plex: there's no such thing as a transcoding daemon |
| [13:48:23] | Plex: | stuarta: what's the mtd? |
| [13:48:24] | stuarta: | there's the transcoder which is kicked off by the jobqueue as required... |
| [13:49:10] | Plex: | I've got an error message that says it cannot connect to the transcoding daemon |
| [13:49:50] | stuarta: | it's an old test implementation of a daemon to provide a service to get recordings. |
| [13:50:03] | stuarta: | mtd is effectively dead. |
| [13:51:44] | Plex: | that's odd... then any idea how to get the rip dvd working? |
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| [14:10:37] | Juski: | afternoon |
| [14:11:46] | stuarta: | afternoon |
| [14:12:10] | Juski: | I can do a new build of SVN now I have my electricity back on :) |
| [14:12:19] | Juski: | bloody main fuse blew :( |
| [14:12:34] | stuarta: | ouch... |
| [14:13:08] | Juski: | oven, washing machine, toaster, kettle and I think the shower going on was too much for it :) |
| [14:15:37] | Juski: | we needed a new fuseholder & meter tails too, so that meant the 'big boys' had to come out. still though – 4 hours – not bad for a weekend |
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| [14:17:13] | stuarta: | so by *blew* you don't mean pop, you mean bang..... |
| [14:17:13] | Juski: | bloody inlaws coming here, overloading my leccy.. grrr |
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| [14:17:51] | Juski: | it didn't go bang, which looking at the state the fuseholder was in was a surprise |
| [14:19:04] | Juski: | uhoh. mythbackend isn't running |
| [14:20:43] | Juski: | No setting found for this machine's BackendServerIP. |
| [14:20:46] | Juski: | shit! |
| [14:23:21] | stuarta: | not good. time to check the DB |
| [14:23:59] | Juski: | aye |
| [14:24:03] | Juski: | time to reboot first though |
| [14:24:22] | Juski: | good thing I back it up every night :-) |
| [14:24:39] | Juski: | so I lose a recording or two... heh |
| [14:26:18] | Juski: | should I worry about this? warning : 1 client is using or hasn't closed the table properly |
| [14:27:17] | Juski: | when I've fixed this box I've got to go shopping for a UPS I reckon.. can't be doing with this every time the power goes out |
| [14:28:24] | stuarta: | not as long as the mysqlcheck succeeds |
| [14:31:46] | Juski: | ah okees. it succeeded |
| [14:32:51] | Juski: | bugger. backend ip is still set right |
| [14:37:11] | Juski: | damn hostname was screwed up |
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| [14:37:37] | Juski: | in /etc/hostname I'd put "HOSTNAME="mythback" |
| [14:37:43] | Juski: | like wtf would I have done that? |
| [14:39:08] | Juski: | restarted net.eth0 and all is apparently well |
| [14:39:09] | Juski: | sheesh |
| [14:40:05] | Juski: | so kids – don't fuck with your linux network/ naming stuff if you've had too much to drink. it's bad, m'kay? |
| [14:41:54] | ** Juski LARTs himself ** | |
| [14:42:00] | evilDagmar: | Give it ten more years. |
| [14:42:05] | evilDagmar: | Then it won't matter how drunk you are. |
| [14:42:41] | abarbaccia: | i wouldn't go that far |
| [14:43:01] | abarbaccia: | theres a point of no return....like the time my friend puked on his roommate's laptop keyboard in college after a night of partying |
| [14:43:11] | evilDagmar: | I kept getting called to peoples rooms to fix their broken/miconfigured machines at a con' one year. |
| [14:43:42] | evilDagmar: | These guys were rewarding me with bong hits. |
| [14:43:50] | Juski: | result! |
| [14:44:43] | evilDagmar: | By the um, ninth machine or so, the guy asked me what I was doing to fix his unbootable problem and my answer was "Man, I don't have the slightest clue what my fingers are typing, but I suppose when they stop we'll see if what they did works." |
| [14:44:48] | Juski: | well that was a bit of excitement for all of about 10 minutes. back to watching umbongo2 compile svn |
| [14:45:24] | evilDagmar: | I didn't even know what was wrong with the machine... but it worked properly when I got done with it. |
| [14:45:37] | Juski: | heheh |
| [14:46:00] | stuarta: | logic is doing my head in.... |
| [14:46:18] | abarbaccia: | anybody building latest svn? |
| [14:46:33] | stuarta: | yup. works just fine. |
| [14:46:35] | Juski: | abarbaccia: me, right now |
| [14:47:03] | Juski: | seeing loads of "has virtual functions but non-virtual destructor" but hey that's normal innit |
| [14:47:08] | abarbaccia: | Juski: go into mythtv – i have a few ?'s but shouldnt be here |
| [14:47:35] | Juski: | abarbaccia: I'm building it right now... you just want me to look in the directory? |
| [14:47:44] | abarbaccia: | no no no i ment #mythtv |
| [14:47:45] | abarbaccia: | osrry |
| [14:47:55] | abarbaccia: | the other channel |
| [14:48:58] | Juski: | pah. we're not good enough for you here? pfft! |
| [14:49:20] | stuarta: | abarbaccia: stay in this channel please. |
| [14:49:34] | Juski: | btw are you planning to do a Dapper install guide that's as good as your Breezy one is? ;) |
| [14:50:05] | abarbaccia: | sure, we can stay here stuarta |
| [14:50:15] | stuarta: | :) |
| [14:50:17] | abarbaccia: | and yes, i plan on it once i sort through this ATI XORG7.0 crapola |
| [14:50:34] | abarbaccia: | so im building and getting some garbage about undefined references in libavcodec |
| [14:50:37] | abarbaccia: | you run into those yet? |
| [14:51:14] | stuarta: | haven't seen any... |
| [14:51:42] | abarbaccia: | ah crap |
| [14:51:45] | evilDagmar: | Undefined reference to what varname? |
| [14:51:49] | abarbaccia: | maybe i gotta upgrade libavcodec |
| [14:52:07] | abarbaccia: | ff_put_cavs_qpel8_mc00_c |
| [14:52:10] | stuarta: | myth has it's own libavcodec |
| [14:52:11] | abarbaccia: | and a few others similar |
| [14:52:18] | abarbaccia: | right – which is what i thought |
| [14:52:19] | Juski: | oh. I wonder what state the powercut left my transcoding jobs in... |
| [14:52:26] | stuarta: | and that sounds like something in the MMX code... |
| [14:52:42] | stuarta: | Juski: in progress, they'll probably get restarted... |
| [14:52:52] | abarbaccia: | stuarta: so is this something thats derived from --enable-proc-opt being turned on? |
| [14:53:03] | Juski: | while I wait for the menu to come up... why could it be taking so long for the menu to come up? |
| [14:53:27] | evilDagmar: | Euw... I think maybe using the external libavcodec would be a good idea if you're not already doing so |
| [14:54:03] | stuarta: | abarbaccia: it's a possibility, although I have it turned on and don't see the error, perhaps it's detecting your cpu incorrectly. |
| [14:54:21] | abarbaccia: | stuarta: its detecting it |
| [14:54:42] | Juski: | arghh damn you ubuntu! I'm gonna have to put the stupid onboard audio into a blacklist |
| [14:56:01] | Juski: | my SB live card keeps swapping device nodes :-/ |
| [14:56:56] | evilDagmar: | You can fix those in module options for ALSA |
| [14:57:04] | evilDagmar: | No idea how at the moment, but I know it can be done |
| [14:57:29] | Juski: | maybe I could just disable it in my BIOS instead |
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| [14:57:38] | abarbaccia: | alright – Juski if you come across the same issue that i'm having right now lemme know – im gonna go and get some things done today |
| [14:58:17] | evilDagmar: | Juski: Considing the number of resources a sound card takes up, if you're not using it, *definitely* disable the thing |
| [14:58:18] | Juski: | will do |
| [14:59:08] | evilDagmar: | Ah here we are |
| [14:59:30] | evilDagmar: | Juski: Heh I feel silly, but then I've just barely waken up... http://alsa.opensrc.org/?page=MultipleCards |
| [14:59:55] | evilDagmar: | There's an example there right near the top that made me slap my forehead |
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| [15:00:55] | Saviq: | Hello there :) |
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| [15:01:01] | evilDagmar: | index= or snd_index= as options to the modules |
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| [15:02:16] | Juski: | hrm. I'll consider it, but if it proves to be anything like making alsa work on gentoo all that time ago I'll just head for the BIOS instead :) |
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| [15:05:06] | evilDagmar: | Well, honestly if you're not using it you *should* just kill it off to free up the resources |
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| [15:05:27] | evilDagmar: | Damn I get the feeling I really should have just bought another ASRock 939dual-SATA2 from NewEgg |
| [15:06:15] | evilDagmar: | I'm about to go to a different local store to try a third motherboard, and if they don't have a 939/AGP board I can tell the way I feel right now I'm just going to buy a damn PCI-E card with S-video out as well |
| [15:06:19] | Juski: | yeah – and it'll be easier than messing with ALSA :) |
| [15:06:56] | evilDagmar: | Well, poking at module options isn't quite as bad as that |
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| [15:08:21] | evilDagmar: | One of my older machines has an sblive and the builtin still enabled because I was using all four sets of outputs indepdendently for some silly special effects stuff |
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| [15:08:39] | Saviq: | why does mythfrontent steal my keyboard when ran on a x screen that has no window manager? |
| [15:08:54] | Saviq: | *frontend |
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| [15:09:22] | evilDagmar: | Well, it can steal your keyboard or you can just not interact with it |
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| [15:09:36] | evilDagmar: | No window manager == no way to change focus |
| [15:10:19] | Saviq: | is it possible to prevent myth from having access to keyboard? |
| [15:10:26] | kafk: | no |
| [15:10:34] | kafk is now known as kormoc | |
| [15:10:47] | kormoc: | and mythfrontend sorta requires a WM |
| [15:10:57] | Juski: | maybe run 2 x servers, but you'd still need a wm |
| [15:11:02] | Juski: | s/x/X |
| [15:11:17] | kormoc: | Juski, X requires a core input keyboard device |
| [15:11:28] | evilDagmar: | kormoc: Actually, once I compiled lirc support into mplayer, I stopped having the problem with video playback being unstoppable |
| [15:11:30] | Juski: | ah fair nuff |
| [15:11:55] | kormoc: | you can get away without a core mouse, and it will just complain, but last I tried, X wouldn't start without a keyboard |
| [15:11:58] | Saviq: | so.. I won't be able to run a x server layout without input device ? |
| [15:12:01] | kormoc: | evilDagmar, ooh? that's nice at least |
| [15:12:06] | kormoc: | Saviq, correct |
| [15:12:09] | evilDagmar: | Seems liek having mplayer read from lirc shortcuts the need for a wm, unless there's something else I haven't seen break |
| [15:12:59] | Saviq: | evilDagmar: if i'm correct – only when using irxevent |
| [15:13:18] | Saviq: | when using mplayer's native lirc support, it's not needed |
| [15:13:50] | Saviq: | 'cause irxevent imitates keyboard |
| [15:14:42] | Saviq: | brb |
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| [15:14:44] | evilDagmar: | You know, I'm watching a video of someone playing with their cat using a laser pointer, and this just goes to show my state of mind shortly after getting up |
| [15:15:21] | evilDagmar: | Maybe those fast/crazy moving blips aren't alien spaceships. Maybe they're just aliens using an alien laser pointer saying to each other "Wow! Look at them chase it around! Hahah!" |
| [15:16:14] | evilDagmar: | (now if I disappear in the next two days we'll know it's not an alien laser pointer, but an advanced super-secret Air Force laser pointer) |
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| [15:23:18] | Saviq: | ok... my idea almost worked... |
| [15:23:28] | Saviq: | tried to run myth on :0.1 before logging in |
| [15:23:50] | Saviq: | when I've had no wm on :0.1 all was ok except the focus was lost in there |
| [15:24:08] | evilDagmar: | This is why it grabs the kb |
| [15:24:15] | Saviq: | when I have mwm running on :0.1 |
| [15:24:34] | evilDagmar: | ...and irxevent is the way you get the "when I press a button on my remote MythTV sees it twice" problem |
| [15:24:53] | evilDagmar: | Well, one of the ways anyhoo |
| [15:24:57] | Saviq: | logging into gnome session gets my myth somewhere behind |
| [15:25:23] | Saviq: | isn't there a way to force focus go somewhere? |
| [15:25:37] | Saviq: | I'm sure I've seen it somewhere, but can't find it now :| |
| [15:25:44] | evilDagmar: | Let it run fullscreen |
| [15:26:11] | Saviq: | well it does... |
| [15:26:31] | Saviq: | the idea is that I'd like to have my normal session nested inside 0.0 |
| [15:26:33] | Saviq: | that works |
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| [15:26:58] | Saviq: | and I wan't to have myth running parallel to my normal session |
| [15:27:00] | evilDagmar: | What good is that going to do you tho? |
| [15:27:16] | ravalox: | hey, where can I download the tarball for myth .19.1? |
| [15:27:31] | Saviq: | I'll be able to use the gnome session while my gf will watch a movie or anything |
| [15:27:37] | Saviq: | using only the remote |
| [15:27:39] | kormoc: | ravalox, there is no 0.19.1 |
| [15:27:43] | evilDagmar: | ravalox: From the webserver over in Never-Never Land, or maybe The Lan That Time Forgot |
| [15:28:00] | evilDagmar: | You can pull 0.19-fixes from SVN tho |
| [15:28:09] | ravalox: | I had one last week, it was version .19.1 but it was lost in a format |
| [15:28:26] | kormoc: | Saviq, why not just run gnome over both? it's not that much overhead, and will work fine for what you want |
| [15:28:39] | ravalox: | maybe it was a copy of fixes billed as .19 and it got autorenamed to .19.1 or .19–1 |
| [15:28:41] | evilDagmar: | ravalox: So download it again from whatever crazy repo you were using before |
| [15:28:52] | kormoc: | ravalox, well, given there was never a 0.19.1 released, you likely just had a checkout of fixes called 0.19.1 |
| [15:28:55] | evilDagmar: | 0.19.1 really does not exist |
| [15:28:59] | ravalox: | It was a tarball and I can't recall where I got it:-) |
| [15:29:14] | Saviq: | kormoc: but I'll be required to log in before using myth, won't I? |
| [15:29:14] | ravalox: | But I checked out fixes from svn and plugins just won't compile |
| [15:29:35] | evilDagmar: | ravalox: didja remove 0.19 before you tried building it? |
| [15:29:48] | kormoc: | Saviq, ooh, I see... |
| [15:29:56] | ravalox: | This is a new install |
| [15:30:03] | ravalox: | I had to format last week |
| [15:30:17] | evilDagmar: | ravalox: Hmm... oh well. If you still had the build errors somewhere I could take a look-see |
| [15:30:19] | kormoc: | ravalox, you might want to pastebin the errors you're getting... |
| [15:30:32] | Saviq: | I know I'm trying to bang on open door, but I just don't want to believe that it's impossible :] |
| [15:30:51] | kormoc: | it's not... just likely not gonna be nice :P |
| [15:30:57] | evilDagmar: | Saviq: You don't exactly have to generate a login session to use Myth |
| [15:31:03] | ravalox: | main.cpp:20:30: error: mythtv/exitcodes.h: No such file or directory |
| [15:31:03] | ravalox: | main.cpp: In function 'int main(int, char**)': |
| [15:31:03] | ravalox: | main.cpp:90: error: 'FRONTEND_EXIT_NO_MYTHCONTEXT' was not declared in this scope |
| [15:31:03] | ravalox: | main.cpp:96: error: 'FRONTEND_EXIT_DB_ERROR' was not declared in this scope |
| [15:31:03] | ravalox: | make[2]: *** [main.o] Error 1 |
| [15:31:04] | ravalox: | make[2]: Leaving directory `/opt/src/mythplugins/mythbrowser/mythbrowser' |
| [15:31:06] | ravalox: | make[1]: *** [sub-mythbrowser] Error 2 |
| [15:31:08] | ravalox: | make[1]: Leaving directory `/opt/src/mythplugins/mythbrowser' |
| [15:31:09] | Saviq: | I know |
| [15:31:10] | ravalox: | make: *** [sub-mythbrowser] Error 2 |
| [15:31:15] | Saviq: | all's working great |
| [15:31:16] | ravalox: | sorry for the clutter there |
| [15:31:24] | evilDagmar: | ravalox: That very first line was all you should have needed to see to know what was up |
| [15:31:27] | Saviq: | apart from that damn keyboard :] |
| [15:31:42] | evilDagmar: | ravalox: Find where mythtv/exitcodes.h lives and use *that* as your --prefix argument |
| [15:31:48] | kormoc: | Saviq, what I would do is setup a second full X server, to only access the tvout/second monitor, and have it autologin to a gnome/xfce4/lwm |
| [15:32:13] | kormoc: | actually, that won't work... |
| [15:32:15] | evilDagmar: | If it's /usr/include you use --prefix=/usr. If it's in /usr/local/include you use --prefix=/usr/local, etc etc |
| [15:32:27] | kormoc: | when the main one starts, you'd lose picture on the myth box |
| [15:32:29] | kormoc: | hrm... |
| [15:33:13] | evilDagmar: | ravalox: You *really* want to specify --prefix= when you build both MythTV and the plugins, and you want to give them the same argument |
| [15:33:36] | Saviq: | that's what I tried ;] |
| [15:33:39] | Saviq: | and failed :] |
| [15:33:44] | kormoc: | yeah |
| [15:33:49] | ** kormoc peers at his mythbox ** | |
| [15:34:04] | Saviq: | I was thinking about getting another graphics card for that |
| [15:34:08] | kormoc: | I don't have a keyboard on my current mythbox, and I forget how I forced that |
| [15:34:14] | kormoc: | that won't help |
| [15:34:24] | ravalox: | I did |
| [15:34:24] | Saviq: | why? |
| [15:34:31] | Saviq: | it should work.. |
| [15:34:40] | Saviq: | just I don't have no more agp slots :( |
| [15:34:40] | kormoc: | when the second X server loses 'focus' it auto sets it to console mode |
| [15:34:42] | ravalox: | I specified the same directory in both, it's a nogo |
| [15:35:02] | kormoc: | when I had multiple videocards, all nvidia, it would cut the second card when launching on the primary card |
| [15:35:12] | kormoc: | tho, that might just be a issue with the nvidia drivers |
| [15:35:12] | Saviq: | hmm -sharevts -novtswitch |
| [15:35:20] | Saviq: | that's what should work |
| [15:35:26] | evilDagmar: | ravalox: You're missing some important parts of the thing then. Make *sure* exitcodes.h is where you think it is |
| [15:35:28] | kormoc: | I was sure I tried those, and it seemed to ignore it |
| [15:35:35] | Saviq: | damn... |
| [15:35:37] | kormoc: | but I can test some again later |
| [15:35:44] | ravalox: | It's where it should be |
| [15:35:49] | kormoc: | like I said, it might just be a nvidia driver issue :P |
| [15:35:58] | evilDagmar: | ravalox: then your error is impossible unless you misspelled "prefix" |
| [15:36:10] | evilDagmar: | "file not found" is really, really unambiguous |
| [15:36:19] | Saviq: | wait a second... |
| [15:36:46] | Hoxzer: | Btw, is there someone who actually has edited mythtv's code+ |
| [15:36:50] | Saviq: | http://linuxgazette.net/124/smith.html |
| [15:37:01] | Saviq: | those are not nvs, tho' |
| [15:37:11] | evilDagmar: | Jesus christ SIX heads? |
| [15:37:23] | Anduin: | Hoxzer: It is read-only. |
| [15:37:24] | Saviq: | yeah it almost worked :] |
| [15:37:36] | Saviq: | actually it worked |
| [15:37:40] | kormoc: | Saviq, they are nvidia cards, [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x]'s |
| [15:37:44] | Saviq: | only was not stable enough |
| [15:37:48] | Saviq: | yeah I see that now |
| [15:37:54] | kormoc: | I read that when I was playing with it |
| [15:38:00] | Hoxzer: | Anduin: yeah, but somebody has to have done it |
| [15:38:10] | ravalox: | my thinking is that there is an error in the build for mythplugin, it's looking in root mythtv instead of libslibmyth/exitcodes.h |
| [15:38:49] | ravalox: | ot ./includes/mythtv/exitcodes.h |
| [15:39:24] | Anduin: | ravalox: So you are building the plugins in a directory that isn't right next to the main source? |
| [15:39:32] | ravalox: | it is |
| [15:39:39] | evilDagmar: | ravalox: Well, it doesn't look, gcc does. Gcc should be getting an instruction along the lines of -I{yer prefix here}/include |
| [15:39:39] | ravalox: | they are in the same directory |
| [15:39:53] | Saviq: | damn I'm sure there was a way somewhere to switch focus between screens... |
| [15:39:57] | Saviq: | but can't find it now ;( |
| [15:40:05] | Anduin: | ravalox: "same" as in ./mythtv ./mythplugins ? |
| [15:40:34] | ravalox: | yes |
| [15:40:46] | evilDagmar: | Unless something was changed to 0.19-fixes in a bad way, it shouldn't need the mythtv source around to build |
| [15:40:51] | ravalox: | /opt/src/mythtv, opt/src/mythplugins |
| [15:40:52] | evilDagmar: | 0.19 definitely doesn't. |
| [15:41:09] | stuarta: | anyone bored and has dvb-s? feel like testing? |
| [15:41:24] | evilDagmar: | The build engine I use is very tidy like that. I would have never been able to get mythplugins to build if it needed mythtv source |
| [15:41:32] | Saviq: | brb |
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| [15:42:44] | evilDagmar: | ravalox: What's the last line of the build where gcc was called? It should be just above the error message |
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| [15:43:47] | ravalox: | main.cpp:96: error: 'FRONTEND_EXIT_DB_ERROR' was not declared in this scope |
| [15:44:10] | evilDagmar: | No, the line above "main.cpp:20:30: error: mythtv/exitcodes.h: No such file or directory" |
| [15:44:25] | evilDagmar: | The one filled with compiler juice |
| [15:47:22] | ravalox: | ahh.. found the problem |
| [15:47:31] | ravalox: | my transfer was somehow corrupted |
| [15:47:41] | evilDagmar: | heh |
| [15:47:42] | ravalox: | I re-grabbed it from svn and it's compiling now |
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| [15:56:53] | Saviq: | damn it now I get "Fatal IO Error: client killed" when I log in ;( |
| [15:56:59] | Saviq: | and don't think I've changed anything |
| [15:57:15] | Saviq: | it totally shouldn't happen |
| [15:57:35] | Saviq: | ah wait... |
| [15:57:52] | Saviq: | damn gdm is killing myth :| |
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| [15:58:13] | Saviq: | how can I set up gdm to use only one screen? |
| [15:58:20] | Saviq: | particularly :0.0 |
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| [15:58:21] | Saviq: | ? |
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| [16:01:47] | Juski: | Saviq: that's probably more a question for #gnome, maybe |
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| [16:02:03] | Saviq: | yeah I know... sorr |
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| [16:02:46] | Saviq: | just tried to continue a conversation |
| [16:03:24] | Juski: | heh. I'm really good at killing conversation :) |
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| [16:04:29] | Saviq: | that's what I've heard ;] |
| [16:04:43] | Saviq: | (listened to LugLive yesterday ;)) |
| [16:04:52] | Juski: | lol |
| [16:05:55] | Juski: | aye well. I don't see many other people queuing up to exhibit mythtv anywhere |
| [16:06:25] | Saviq: | shame |
| [16:07:04] | Saviq: | apart from that I think it could use a little rewrite here and there it's a great app |
| [16:07:31] | Juski: | oh yeah definitely |
| [16:07:41] | Saviq: | oh I almost forgot |
| [16:07:45] | Juski: | and it's getting loads of stuff overhauled |
| [16:07:59] | Saviq: | do You have any way to speed up translations? |
| [16:08:09] | Saviq: | I could do a polish translation |
| [16:08:11] | Juski: | translations? |
| [16:08:15] | Juski: | oh right |
| [16:08:20] | Juski: | nothing that I know of |
| [16:08:47] | Saviq: | but looking at all the files and rewriting them seems a little not fun |
| [16:09:02] | Juski: | just chip away at it little by little ;) |
| [16:09:18] | Juski: | maybe ask for help on the mailing lists too |
| [16:10:13] | Juski: | might pay you to ask in #mythtv for advice on doing a translation :) |
| [16:15:11] | stuarta: | Saviq: translations are easy. |
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| [16:16:31] | stuarta: | it's almost beer o'clock *woohoo* |
| [16:17:27] | Juski: | hmmm beer :) |
| [16:17:37] | Juski: | or Magners if my local has it |
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| [16:18:55] | The-FoX: | Janneg: thanks, it works!!! |
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| [16:29:31] | lcase: | hallo, hat jemand mfd aus svn in letzter zeit mal compiliert? |
| [16:31:01] | stuarta: | Saviq: you wanted to do a Polish translation? |
| [16:31:16] | lcase: | da kommt dann |
| [16:31:32] | stuarta: | lcase: english please |
| [16:31:37] | maniacxs: | lcase: german please in #mythtv-de |
| [16:31:37] | Juski: | Icase: try #mythtv-de |
| [16:31:38] | lcase: | sowas /usr/local/lib/libmythui-0.19.so: undefined reference to `glHint' |
| [16:31:49] | lcase: | uppps wrong channel :) |
| [16:33:19] | lcase: | i get compile errors from compiling mfd (Mythfrontenddaemon) from svn |
| [16:33:27] | lcase: | like the one above |
| [16:33:34] | stuarta: | Saviq: checkout svn, then use the kde tool (can't remember the name of it, to do the translation, then create a ticket in trac and assign it to oscar |
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| [16:34:21] | lcase: | Saviq: you can also qtlinguist for translating |
| [16:34:34] | lcase: | also use ... i mean |
| [16:34:34] | stuarta: | Saviq: although I suspect there is already a polish translation... |
| [16:35:16] | stuarta: | updates are always welcome :) |
| [16:36:29] | Saviq: | where is it? |
| [16:37:13] | Saviq: | let me check... |
| [16:37:21] | stuarta: | mythtv/il8n/ |
| [16:38:48] | Juski: | hrm. testing svn is getting boring. so much stuff just works |
| [16:39:02] | stuarta: | :) how's your scanning? |
| [16:39:20] | Saviq: | damn it wasn't there in .18 :] |
| [16:39:23] | stuarta: | think i've done most of it... |
| [16:39:23] | Juski: | just have to check that |
| [16:40:00] | Juski: | deleted all channels... scanning |
| [16:40:58] | stuarta: | if it doesn't work i'll need --verbose siparser,channel,record from mythtv-setup + dvbsnoop -n 1 -nph 0x10 |
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| [16:41:53] | Juski: | cool |
| [16:42:41] | stuarta: | on ticket 1833 :) |
| [16:42:45] | Juski: | hrm I'll just check the aerial is still teed off downstairs |
| [16:43:39] | Juski: | scan seems to have hung at 62% |
| [16:43:40] | janneg: | stuarta: does full scan for dvb-c/s scan all transports? |
| [16:43:50] | Juski: | whoops spoke too soon |
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| [16:44:37] | Saviq: | hmm.. not that I can choose polish in my .19 build :| |
| [16:45:22] | Saviq: | will copying the files as they are allow me to choose polish? |
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| [16:46:39] | Juski: | stuarta: so are we now just assuming that people want to skip encrypted services & just go ahead & add radio channels? |
| [16:47:18] | Juski: | not that I mind of course.. just asking :) |
| [16:48:26] | janneg: | Juski: you can choose in the input connection |
| [16:50:08] | Juski: | ahh so I can |
| [16:50:33] | Juski: | that kind of makes the 'scan for channels' part of the channel editor redundant |
| [16:50:55] | Juski: | but what's this? it seems to think I have a 'card 2' |
| [16:51:00] | stuarta: | janneg: full scan just goes through all the frequencies given it it's scan list... |
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| [16:51:15] | stuarta: | so it should find all the transports |
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| [16:51:27] | fiXXXerMet: | If my capture card has both a cable in and an svideo out, can I use that for both TV in and out? |
| [16:52:11] | stuarta: | Saviq: believe there is a menu change needed as well. |
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| [16:53:18] | Saviq: | yeah but is it necessary to recompile? |
| [16:53:19] | Juski: | ooo eating time |
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| [16:54:24] | gardengnome: | re |
| [16:54:38] | janneg: | it adds all transports it finds in the NIT of initial tuning params but it does not add them to the scan list |
| [16:54:59] | stuarta: | you mean "tuned scan", yeah that bit's still broken.... |
| [16:55:18] | janneg: | ok |
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| [16:55:57] | stuarta: | just have to sit down and write it... |
| [16:57:24] | stuarta: | anyway, time to go drink beer. |
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| [17:18:26] | fiXXXerMet: | Can my capture card act as both tv in and out, if it has the appropriate ports? |
| [17:19:13] | Anduin: | fiXXXerMet: It could. |
| [17:19:17] | nero: | fiXXXerMet, if it is a PVR-350 it can. |
| [17:19:45] | fiXXXerMet: | It's a 250 or 350 MCE |
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| [17:30:12] | fiXXXerMet: | I have a cable box that connects to my TV – I change the channels on my cable box, and TV is set to 3. Will this be a problem with mythtv? |
| [17:31:08] | Juski: | fiXXXerMet: yes it'll be a problem if your tv doesn't have any direct video & audio inputs |
| [17:31:53] | fiXXXerMet: | My TV has cable/composite/RWY inputs, but it goes cable box (RWY) -> (RWY) TV |
| [17:32:26] | Juski: | you'd need to use the composite input on the tv for your myth box |
| [17:32:50] | fiXXXerMet: | Er, TV also has svideo |
| [17:33:01] | fiXXXerMet: | How does the myth box change the channel on the cable box, though? |
| [17:33:26] | kormoc: | fiXXXerMet, btw, a pvr 250 has no tvout ports |
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| [17:34:07] | Juski: | fiXXXerMet: read the mythtv FAQ |
| [17:34:22] | gardengnome: | heya Juski |
| [17:34:38] | fiXXXerMet: | kormoc: Whatever one I have, it has RWY, s video, and two cable connections |
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| [17:34:50] | Anduin: | sphery: The patch I posted is a (hopefully) cleaned up version a little behind what I'm running, if you get a chance to look at it I'd welcome your feedback. |
| [17:34:53] | Juski: | hey gardengnome. get the article finished? |
| [17:35:03] | gardengnome: | Juski: heh, i wish. but i'm getting closer... |
| [17:35:51] | Juski: | heh |
| [17:36:12] | gardengnome: | skipping my favourite open air concert today because of it :/ |
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| [17:37:44] | iqon: | how do i listen to an ogg stream in mythtv? |
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| [17:38:06] | gardengnome: | iqon: the same way you listen to normal streams. |
| [17:38:11] | Juski: | iqon: a stream? with mythstream |
| [17:38:18] | Juski: | not mythstreamtv |
| [17:40:51] | iqon: | that's not part of mythplugins is it? |
| [17:40:52] | Juski: | stuarta: scanning was peachy... good job! |
| [17:41:10] | Juski: | iqon: no it's an unofficial plugin and one which isn't well maintained |
| [17:46:21] | ghotiboy1: | i have a question about compiling mythtv (on Xebian) |
| [17:46:41] | ghotiboy1: | i'm getting an error from ld: cant find lib -lqt-mt |
| [17:46:50] | ghotiboy1: | qt3-mt is installed |
| [17:46:59] | ghotiboy1: | do i need to have qt3-mt-dev too? |
| [17:47:23] | Juski: | yep |
| [17:47:30] | ghotiboy1: | cripes |
| [17:47:41] | ghotiboy1: | that wants to upgrade X |
| [17:47:54] | ghotiboy1: | i guess I could force it with no deps |
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| [17:53:47] | gardengnome: | guess that'd break stuff :) |
| [17:54:19] | Juski: | guess YMMV |
| [17:56:56] | Juski: | oh wow. I don't yet have HD but I'm starting to like it |
| [17:58:33] | Juski: | content sourced in HD & scaled down to SD looks better than 'normal' HD :) |
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| [18:06:48] | croddy: | i'm getting repeated "500 internal server error" when running mythfilldatabase; may i assume the problem is on the remote end? |
| [18:07:34] | hiro_p: | hi, I'm trying to scan for channels using a dvb-c card. but i always get a error: "failed to setup transponder frequency" what does that mean? |
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| [18:15:21] | Juski: | hahahaha... Until further notice BA has halted all flights out of the UK. BA announced: "I ain't getting on no plane fool !" |
| [18:24:28] | Saviq: | who can tell me what's the best way to start xine to play dvd's? |
| [18:25:15] | Juski: | search the wiki? |
| [18:26:08] | ghotiboy1: | Juski: They always knock him out...they'll be flying again in no time... |
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| [18:26:48] | Saviq: | you know... that's sounds like a good way :] |
| [18:27:15] | Juski: | more people should look at the FAQs and in the wiki.. RTFMing never goes amiss either :-/ |
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| [18:33:31] | gardengnome: | Saviq: xine --pfhg --no-splash -D (for deinterlacing) dvd:/ – that should do the trick |
| [18:33:37] | gardengnome: | maybe it's --pfhq... |
| [18:35:02] | Aid`: | is a function to record multiple shows from 1 transponder a reality in mythtv yet? |
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| [18:35:15] | gardengnome: | Aid`: no |
| [18:35:53] | Aid`: | bummer |
| [18:36:26] | Aid`: | anyone in here record multiple shows from 1 transponder before??? how much rate does it take like mb/s |
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| [18:38:26] | Saviq: | thanks gardengnome, found it in the wiki, too |
| [18:39:50] | Saviq: | well everything works fine except for the focus part :| |
| [18:42:06] | Aid`: | do FTA satellites in the US provide EPGs? |
| [18:42:24] | gardengnome: | are you running a window manager? or are you trying to control DVD menus over your keyboard? i don't believe the latter works |
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| [18:43:05] | evilDagmar: | gardengnome: You would be right. |
| [18:43:21] | gardengnome: | wee. |
| [18:43:31] | evilDagmar: | gardengnome: At least without a window manager it definitely does not work. I'm not convinced that enabling a window manager is going to do any good either |
| [18:43:31] | ** gardengnome dances a little ** | |
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| [18:43:44] | gardengnome: | evilDagmar: i'm running kde here and it didn't work. |
| [18:43:48] | evilDagmar: | Using mplayer, if mplayer has been compiled to use lirc, then lirc will work it fine |
| [18:44:05] | evilDagmar: | Someone the other day was talkign about usign Myth's internal player for that |
| [18:44:11] | evilDagmar: | I'm not sure how sane that discussion was tho |
| [18:44:25] | gardengnome: | well, it'll work in 0.20. dvd menus, i mean. |
| [18:44:33] | evilDagmar: | I dunno if Myth's internal player is really mplayer or what |
| [18:44:43] | gardengnome: | no, it's something based on ffmpeg. |
| [18:44:53] | Saviq: | I'm trying to get my myth to work on 0.1 while Xgl's running nested in 0.0 |
| [18:44:55] | evilDagmar: | I just know mplayer causes a bit of a problem with volume, since it adds yet a third mixer element in series |
| [18:45:00] | gardengnome: | ell, mplayer is, too, but it's like an independent development |
| [18:45:05] | Saviq: | so I can't use the same wm as for the main session |
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| [18:45:22] | evilDagmar: | *sigh* |
| [18:45:29] | evilDagmar: | Window managers are not session locked |
| [18:45:34] | evilDagmar: | Use a *different account* |
| [18:45:39] | evilDagmar: | "sessions" are user locked. |
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| [18:45:55] | evilDagmar: | uni-session? Session monogamy? |
| [18:46:02] | evilDagmar: | I don't quite know what to call that actaully. |
| [18:46:19] | evilDagmar: | It's yer session manager that's screwing you over |
| [18:46:31] | Saviq: | possibly |
| [18:46:43] | evilDagmar: | Of course, you could always try and use something less session-aware, like Blackbox |
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| [18:48:02] | evilDagmar: | Oof. Off to buy another motherboard now |
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| [19:03:35] | ** tjcarter is wondering about slight niggle with myth ** | |
| [19:03:55] | tjcarter: | if I tap skip forward twice fast, it goes back to the beginning of the stream |
| [19:04:33] | tjcarter: | NEVER what I intend, and no idea what could possibly make anyone think otherwise.. How do I kill that "feature", if indeed it is such? |
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| [19:08:55] | janneg: | grr, qt: a rectangle with top-left (0,0) and bottom right (720,576) should have a width of 720 and a height of 576 |
| [19:09:41] | janneg: | ah, it's even documented that trolltech can't calculate http://doc.trolltech.com/3.3/qrect.html#QRect-4 |
| [19:10:53] | janneg: | so a rectangle from (0,0) to (0,0) has area 1 |
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| [19:11:10] | janneg: | that's more than stupid |
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| [19:14:19] | ghotiboy1: | OK, so I would just like to say that I'm an utter failure compiling the SVN version of myth on Xebian |
| [19:15:12] | ghotiboy1: | I cannot install the libqt3-mt-dev package without upgrading X (seemingly) and I can't compile without that package (no -lqt-mt found) |
| [19:15:18] | ghotiboy1: | anyone have any ideas? |
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| [19:17:40] | ghotiboy1: | bueller? |
| [19:19:06] | ghotiboy1: | i think i'm left with going for it and if i fail, i will just have to wait until mythtv for xbox catches up |
| [19:22:11] | gardengnome: | why dont you upgrade X? |
| [19:24:21] | ghotiboy1: | because it wants to upgrade to Xorg (I think) and Xorg doesn't work on Xbox (so I'm told) |
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| [19:25:41] | GE85: | I'm having a problem with my mysql database, I was messing around with the permissions and some how I have disallowed logging in from the mythtv user, I am looking at webmin..and I am not seeing that it is denied to its database |
| [19:26:19] | GE85: | I know it isn't letting mythtv user log in because I cannot log in using the mysql command from the command line, says access denied |
| [19:26:48] | bsdfox: | grant all privileges on mythtv.* to mythtv identified by 'mythtvpass'; |
| [19:27:13] | GE85: | run that from inside mysql as root? |
| [19:27:34] | bsdfox: | yeah |
| [19:27:42] | gardengnome: | ghotiboy1: humm. that's bad. maybe you wanna try a different distro for your xbox then... or compile mythstream on a spare debian box you might have laying around. just hope it'll work ;) |
| [19:27:53] | GE85: | do I need to restart mysql, or flush something afterwards? |
| [19:29:25] | fiXXXerMet: | flush privileges; |
| [19:29:27] | janneg: | FLUSH PRIVILEDGES |
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| [19:30:18] | medwards: | it's privileges. No d |
| [19:30:30] | medwards: | I made that mistake often enough to not make it anymore. |
| [19:31:23] | GE85: | that appears to do it...thank you very much |
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| [19:41:44] | Juski: | must resist... try not to delete.. lame post... must ... try.... |
| [19:43:17] | Juski: | whoops. didn't upgrade mythweb |
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| [19:45:32] | Ediehow: | if anyone is interested, i found a cheap usb to serial converter that works fine with lirc and myth:) |
| [19:45:52] | Juski: | a usb-serial converter which works with lirc_serial? |
| [19:45:53] | Ediehow: | my new computer didn't have serial ports so i had to improvice |
| [19:46:02] | Ediehow: | Juski: some people in here told me most of them didn't work |
| [19:46:13] | Ediehow: | and google indicated that too |
| [19:46:35] | Juski: | with lirc_serial? |
| [19:47:01] | Ediehow: | i don't understand what you are asking |
| [19:47:08] | Ediehow: | is that a plugin for lirc or what? |
| [19:47:16] | Ediehow: | oh |
| [19:47:19] | Ediehow: | the command line thing |
| [19:47:21] | Ediehow: | i didn't even have to use that |
| [19:47:24] | medwards: | lame post? |
| [19:47:24] | Juski: | which lirc driver do you have it working with? |
| [19:47:36] | Ediehow: | the remote is a pinsys |
| [19:47:43] | Juski: | lol no wonder |
| [19:47:56] | Ediehow: | but i plugged it in and it loaded the kernel module pl2303 |
| [19:47:59] | Juski: | it sends out characters onto the serial port |
| [19:48:08] | Ediehow: | oh, the newer ones don't do that? |
| [19:48:33] | Juski: | so YES it's still true that serial port receivers (like the DIY homebrew ones) won't work with USB>serial converters |
| [19:48:52] | Ediehow: | are you talking about as opposed to remote? |
| [19:49:31] | Ediehow: | for a satellite thing or something? |
| [19:49:42] | Juski: | Ediehow: you say it works with LIRC... I'll say this more slowly.. w h i c h l i r c d r i v e r a r e y o u u s i n g t h a t w i t h ? |
| [19:50:01] | Ediehow: | i already told you |
| [19:50:08] | Ediehow: | do you want me to say it slowly? |
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| [19:50:20] | Juski: | so the 'pinsys' driver? |
| [19:50:23] | Ediehow: | yeah |
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| [19:50:27] | Juski: | right |
| [19:50:42] | Juski: | you said 'the remote is a pinsys'... not which driver btw |
| [19:50:54] | Ediehow: | the remote is a pinnacle systems |
| [19:50:54] | Aid`: | is there anyway to get hbo, starz (scrambled channels) on a DVB-S satellite card |
| [19:51:00] | Ediehow: | which obviously uses the pinsys driver:) |
| [19:51:04] | Ediehow: | sorry |
| [19:51:13] | Juski: | Aid`: no |
| [19:52:25] | Ediehow: | Juski: so what were you saying |
| [19:52:28] | Ediehow: | it doesn't work for something else? |
| [19:52:35] | Ediehow: | b/c i plan to move to satellite eventually |
| [19:53:02] | Juski: | Ediehow: USB to serial converters will always work fine with most serial devices which send out characters.... |
| [19:53:27] | Ediehow: | Juski: well, from the google posts i read, a lot of them didn't work in linux at all |
| [19:53:28] | Juski: | but not with the kind of receiver where the driver needs to take control of the serial port directly, like lirc_serial |
| [19:53:30] | Ediehow: | that's why i was curious |
| [19:53:30] | medwards: | Juski: For VLC I get to install like another 20 -dev packages! yay! |
| [19:53:48] | Ediehow: | Juski: well, i am moving to satellite soon, and i understand you need to use the serial port on that? |
| [19:53:49] | Juski: | medwards: I bet you did. does it work yet? |
| [19:54:00] | Juski: | Ediehow: depends on which box you get |
| [19:54:11] | Ediehow: | Juski: i want to be able to use mythtv just as i do now, with cable |
| [19:54:20] | Juski: | anyway this agony uncle is going deep undercover. seeya |
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| [19:54:49] | abarbaccia: | Juski any luck with the build? |
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| [19:57:44] | Juski: | gah I am SO bored! |
| [20:00:37] | Juski: | btw abarbaccia the build worked just fine here... all nice |
| [20:01:51] | tjcarter: | Last night's Stargate... Those were pinkys! =D |
| [20:01:59] | ** tjcarter grabs shotgun ** | |
| [20:03:03] | abarbaccia: | Juski: what was the build number you were using? |
| [20:03:09] | abarbaccia: | what OS also? |
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| [20:05:38] | Rambo3: | hwhat? hwhat? hyeah |
| [20:05:40] | medwards: | Juski: I'm worried that the X11 prereqs may not be in the Ubuntu repo |
| [20:05:51] | medwards: | thus initiating.. dependency hell. |
| [20:05:57] | medwards: | (Dante forgot to write about that one) |
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| [20:16:53] | medwards: | omfg this is going to be painful... |
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| [20:19:11] | notwoohoo: | anyone willing to help get tv out going on my pvr-350? I think that I am missing one step... |
| [20:19:59] | Rambo3: | like apt-build mythtv or apt-get install mythtv |
| [20:22:29] | notwoohoo: | bah |
| [20:22:48] | notwoohoo: | hold on, i'll gather some info for pastebin |
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| [20:26:08] | notwoohoo: | nm |
| [20:26:11] | notwoohoo: | just got it :) |
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| [20:30:55] | Aid`: | ok help me with my dvb-s questions |
| [20:31:03] | Aid`: | sorry |
| [20:31:08] | Aid`: | lol wrong chat |
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| [20:41:31] | Juski: | medwards: it's only for mythstreamtv, probably the most marginal of all the plugins. is it really worth it? |
| [20:45:26] | maniacxs: | trying to write a translation. I wrote it with linguist. after changeing the files in sourcedir, mythfrontend crashes when starting the plugin (mytharchive). any ideas what the problem could be? |
| [20:47:16] | medwards: | Juski: dude I'll be able to watch TV at work |
| [20:47:19] | medwards: | it'd be elite. |
| [20:47:21] | medwards: | painful but elite. |
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| [20:50:44] | Juski: | could you not just have tried binaries from another distro? |
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| [20:51:35] | medwards: | mmm |
| [20:51:38] | medwards: | like what distro? |
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| [20:53:18] | medwards: | oo oo it's building. |
| [20:53:19] | Juski: | I dunno – maybe one which includes all the cruft you need? |
| [20:53:23] | medwards: | OK now time for breakfast. |
| [20:56:19] | inthemedium: | I'm in kind of a predicament with nuvexport... with one version I get a divide by zero error and the newer version doesn't work with regular mythtv |
| [20:56:30] | inthemedium: | is there anything I can do besides upgrading mythtv? |
| [20:56:52] | pr0bity: | I've been digging around the forums at the top, and google, I have a pvr-500 and the playback is horrible, great audio but video isn't great. Running fedora core 5, any recommendation on links/drivers/firmware? |
| [20:57:24] | pr0bity: | I do have a bunch of splits but I bought an amp for the coax line, and it only gets split once before it goes into the comp. |
| [20:58:29] | inthemedium: | might be a bad tuner, I had a bad one on a pvr500 recently |
| [20:59:08] | pr0bity: | well I mean its tolerable, its just kinda grainy... |
| [20:59:21] | pr0bity: | I assumed it would look as good as my standard tv did before the htpc ;) |
| [21:01:05] | notwoohoo: | how much is the pvr500 these days? |
| [21:01:16] | inthemedium: | ~140 |
| [21:01:30] | notwoohoo: | not bad at all |
| [21:01:36] | notwoohoo: | my pvr350 is driving me crazy |
| [21:01:40] | notwoohoo: | tv out is too unstable |
| [21:02:52] | The-FoX: | Maybe someone of oyu can post me the create table command for channels and dtv_multiplex table? |
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| [21:03:32] | inthemedium: | that's the only bad part? that is it records well? |
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| [21:11:53] | GE85: | I'm trying to setup another mythfrontend on my network, and it is not able to connect to the database. I have verified with the mysql client that the machine does haver permission to connect (and can log in)...I have on my backend when I run mythtv-setup to my computer real lan ip address. I'm at a loss of what to do next. |
| [21:12:01] | pr0bity: | ugh, just hooked the coax to my tv and it looks great, this sucks :| |
| [21:12:07] | medwards: | vi /etc/mysql/my.cnf |
| [21:12:27] | GE85: | I already have edited this file, I can log in remotely |
| [21:12:33] | medwards: | look for bindaddress = 127..... well damnit |
| [21:12:41] | medwards: | that was my problem when setting up the second FE... |
| [21:12:58] | GE85: | I have already changed that to my lan ip address |
| [21:13:18] | medwards: | yuck. I just commented it out (the FE on the actual machine didn't work anymore when I did that) |
| [21:13:23] | medwards: | anyways |
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| [21:13:38] | medwards: | check the mysql users table and see if it's mythtv@localhost |
| [21:14:03] | medwards: | your mysql user might only be authorized to make connections from within the machine. |
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| [21:14:24] | GE85: | yeah...I have added that anyone can come in under webmin |
| [21:14:57] | medwards: | webmin has privileges on mythconverg? |
| [21:15:03] | GE85: | I sais under host config that the myth database anyone can access |
| [21:15:11] | GE85: | webmin logs in as root |
| [21:15:24] | GE85: | so of corse |
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| [21:17:00] | medwards: | ok I'll leave you with the two debug paths the more experienced hands will probably have you do anyhow (I want to eats my breakfast): 1) Try to get the exact error the FE is producing 2) make sure the FE is trying to log in as webmin and try using mysqlclient from the FE box |
| [21:18:00] | GE85: | tried mysqlclient from the box |
| [21:18:21] | GE85: | webmin is just logging in as root...(just like phpadmin...or whatever its called) |
| [21:18:34] | GE85: | FE is just saying cannot connect to DB than crashing |
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| [21:22:15] | medwards: | whats /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt say? |
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| [21:22:52] | GE85: | DBHostName=localhost |
| [21:22:53] | GE85: | DBUserName=mythtv |
| [21:22:53] | GE85: | DBName=mythconverg |
| [21:22:53] | GE85: | DBPassword=rlkyoiuk |
| [21:23:16] | GE85: | do I need to change the host name to...its ip address? |
| [21:25:10] | sphery: | GE85: you need to ensure you've granted permissions in MySQL using mythtv@localhost |
| [21:25:37] | sphery: | Anduin: I saw the patch. |
| [21:25:56] | sphery: | I'm compiling now. Will close out my old tix once I verify... Thanks for posting. |
| [21:25:57] | GE85: | I have...I can log in using the mysql client |
| [21:26:23] | GE85: | nothing in the mythbackend.log |
| [21:26:31] | sphery: | using mysql -umythtv -hlocalhost -p mythconverg |
| [21:26:34] | sphery: | it works? |
| [21:26:36] | GE85: | yes |
| [21:26:40] | sphery: | with the -h |
| [21:26:45] | sphery: | you've tried the -h |
| [21:26:49] | GE85: | on my remote machine |
| [21:26:51] | GE85: | it does |
| [21:26:56] | GE85: | w/ -h <ip> |
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| [21:27:17] | GE85: | hmm... |
| [21:27:23] | sphery: | OK. |
| [21:27:24] | GE85: | but...just tried it locally just like you said... |
| [21:27:26] | GE85: | and it doesn't |
| [21:27:41] | GE85: | I've tried it on my remote machine and it does work |
| [21:28:04] | GE85: | "Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost'" |
| [21:28:07] | sphery: | If the Myth box is remote from your MySQL database, you do need to change the DBHostName in mysql.txt |
| [21:29:35] | GE85: | well...the mythbackend is on the same box as mysql |
| [21:29:47] | medwards: | GE85: That's probably related to what I said before, change the mysql config to have bind-address commented out |
| [21:30:08] | sphery: | If it's remote, see http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-9.html#ss9.3 |
| [21:30:21] | GE85: | sec...let me copy and paste what I have in the mysql config |
| [21:30:23] | sphery: | If it's local, you've granted permission to mythtv using the IP, but not using the localhost name |
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| [21:31:09] | GE85: | bind-address = 192.168.0.75 |
| [21:31:15] | pr0bity: | has anyone here setup a pvr-500 successfully on a linux dist? without any video quality issues? |
| [21:31:28] | GE85: | I have a pvr-500, but I've only hooked up a vcr at this point... |
| [21:31:39] | GE85: | quality looks ok when I cat the /dev/video0 |
| [21:31:52] | GE85: | or watch it live on mplayer |
| [21:31:59] | pr0bity: | did you upgrade the firmware or anything? |
| [21:32:28] | GreyFoxx: | a lot ofusers have pvr 500's |
| [21:32:50] | pr0bity: | I'm just having kinda crappy video quality from them. |
| [21:33:02] | medwards: | GE85: just comment out the bind-address line and restart mysql. It doesn't break anything and lets your localhost FE and remote FE work fine. |
| [21:33:28] | GE85: | ok, but again I can connect to the mysql server on the backend using the mysql client on my FE box |
| [21:34:36] | sphery: | GE85: But using the client, you're likely using other parameters from those specified in mysql.txt (unless you explicitly add those parameters to the mysql command line) |
| [21:35:22] | sphery: | GE85: Note, also, that you must run MySQL on only one DB for /all/ myth backends |
| [21:35:49] | sphery: | So, if you have a master and a slave backend and the MySQL server is on the master, the slave must connect to the master |
| [21:35:54] | GE85: | ok, I'm only running mysqld on my main (and only) backend... |
| [21:36:11] | GE85: | ok...do I need to change it on my FE mysql.txt? |
| [21:36:15] | sphery: | OK, I thought I saw something in the chat history about a remote, but I didn't read everything. |
| [21:36:21] | GE85: | because I've been doing all this on my BE |
| [21:36:25] | sphery: | So, is the frontend remote? |
| [21:37:00] | GE85: | I have a FE both on the main backend, and on the FE |
| [21:37:06] | GE85: | well....another bo |
| [21:37:07] | GE85: | *box |
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| [21:37:25] | GE85: | my BE is a Ubuntu, and my FE I'm trying to make work is a Suse 10.1 |
| [21:37:49] | ** medwards is ready to kill the faad2 devs.. ** | |
| [21:37:54] | GE85: | (mythfrontedn works fine on my BE) |
| [21:37:56] | medwards: | Can't build a proper Makefile to save their lives... |
| [21:38:20] | sphery: | So, yeah. Configure the frontend's mysql.txt like http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-9.html#ss9.3 |
| [21:38:45] | sphery: | Anduin: You around? |
| [21:41:17] | GE85: | ok, except the mysql.txt file does not exist... |
| [21:41:57] | sphery: | where's mythtv installed? |
| [21:42:05] | sphery: | in /usr or /usr/local |
| [21:42:39] | Anduin: | sphery: Am now. |
| [21:42:46] | GE85: | first..this is not (at this time) gonna be a slave backend... |
| [21:42:46] | sphery: | If in /usr, check /usr/share/mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [21:42:49] | GE85: | just a frontend |
| [21:42:54] | sphery: | Anduin: It seems you forgot to add the cleanup stuff |
| [21:42:59] | sphery: | I don't have a cleanup.h |
| [21:43:14] | sphery: | (and probably cleanup.cpp) |
| [21:43:56] | sphery: | GE85: Fine, but you have to tell the frontend how to find the DB |
| [21:44:23] | GE85: | ok...I misunderstood because the link says for backends... |
| [21:44:48] | sphery: | Yeah. |
| [21:45:02] | GE85: | I do not have a mysql.txt in any of my mythtv dirs...but shouldn't when I run mythtv-setup am I not configuring how to find the db? |
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| [21:46:02] | sphery: | Anduin: Yeah. No cleanup.cpp, either. |
| [21:46:21] | GE85: | there is a mysql.txt file in my ~/.mythtv/ |
| [21:46:21] | GE85: | dir |
| [21:46:56] | Anduin: | sphery: Ah yes, more files as well, all because I made sure it applied to a clean tree (in which it knew nothing about the new files), I'll fix it. |
| [21:47:03] | sphery: | thx |
| [21:47:14] | sphery: | I'm getting very excited to test it out. :) |
| [21:47:44] | GE85: | the ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt has the DBHostName=<ip> is correct |
| [21:48:04] | sphery: | And you still get the error? |
| [21:48:13] | GE85: | it had this the whole time |
| [21:48:33] | sphery: | And there's no other mysql.txt on the system? |
| [21:48:41] | GE85: | I installed syslocate to make sure |
| [21:49:20] | GE85: | and, I still get about 2 pages of errors of it trying to find the DB until mythfrontend starts up... |
| [21:49:46] | sphery: | If it's saying, "Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost'" (as you mentioned above), it's not using a mysql.txt with DBHostName=<ip> |
| [21:50:09] | GE85: | no...that was something else |
| [21:50:17] | sphery: | does it have read permission on ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt? does it have read and execute permission on ~/.mythtv |
| [21:50:39] | GE85: | I am only getting erros about it saying cannot connect to database |
| [21:52:06] | sphery: | OK, I reviewed some of the history. |
| [21:52:09] | Anduin: | sphery: done. |
| [21:52:23] | sphery: | Do you have both an /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt and an ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt? |
| [21:52:23] | GE85: | it keeps saying that it doesn't get an error at all.... |
| [21:52:27] | GE85: | no |
| [21:52:35] | GE85: | just the one in my homedir |
| [21:53:13] | GE85: | "No error type from QsqlError? strange..." |
| [21:53:25] | ** sphery is jealous of Anduin ** | |
| [21:53:28] | Juski: | does qt have mysql support? |
| [21:53:36] | GE85: | I dunno.... |
| [21:53:40] | sphery: | I can't replace files in Trac, so my tickets get ugly when I forget stuff... |
| [21:53:44] | Juski: | you dunno? find out! |
| [21:53:46] | GE85: | do I need something like qt-mysql |
| [21:53:50] | Juski: | yup |
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| [21:54:34] | notwoohoo: | any reason that irw works but keypresses are ignored in myth? i have .mythtv/lircrc in place |
| [21:54:56] | medwards: | Are you sure you have lircrc in place? :P |
| [21:55:04] | medwards: | Make sure the stuff in lircrc matches your remote I guess |
| [21:55:08] | Juski: | notwoohoo: 1) myth is built without lirc support 2) lircrc file has the wrong button definitions |
| [21:55:14] | medwards: | also put it in /etc/lirc/ |
| [21:55:21] | GE85: | doesn't look like it...it'll take a few minutes to download... |
| [21:55:24] | notwoohoo: | it is in /etc/lirc as well |
| [21:55:32] | GE85: | (dial-suk) |
| [21:55:40] | notwoohoo: | myth has lirc support |
| [21:55:46] | GE85: | I'm installing qt-sql-mysql |
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| [21:55:51] | notwoohoo: | lircrc file has worked in the past |
| [21:56:06] | Juski: | notwoohoo: note... lircrc is just "lircrc" not .lircrc in the ~/.mythtv/ dir |
| [21:56:24] | notwoohoo: | yep |
| [21:56:39] | notwoohoo: | prog = mythtv |
| [21:56:50] | jams: | Anduin- is it possible to find the value of a highlighted item in a popup menu? |
| [21:56:50] | notwoohoo: | where is mythtv defined as mythfrontend? |
| [21:56:54] | Juski: | then check what irw spits out for button defs is what you have in the lircrc file |
| [21:57:15] | Juski: | notwoohoo: mythtv should be the prog name in your lircrc file |
| [21:57:30] | Anduin: | jams: You can listen to selection changes, I'd have to look beyond that. |
| [21:57:52] | jams: | ok |
| [21:57:54] | notwoohoo: | just checked, lircrc is right for CH+/CH- |
| [21:58:01] | notwoohoo: | i assume it correct for others |
| [21:58:07] | Juski: | assume?! |
| [21:58:19] | Juski: | assume nothing :-) |
| [21:58:23] | jams: | it would be so easier if you could pass arguments with SLOTS |
| [21:58:26] | notwoohoo: | :) |
| [21:58:31] | notwoohoo: | well CH+ doesn't work... |
| [21:58:38] | notwoohoo: | i'd be satisfied if it did |
| [21:58:42] | Juski: | I assume everybody RTFMs before they come in here.. ho ho ho |
| [21:59:02] | medwards: | ha, that's funny Juski. |
| [21:59:03] | notwoohoo: | you know what they say about assumptions |
| [21:59:05] | notwoohoo: | :) |
| [21:59:17] | medwards: | ooooo |
| [21:59:39] | Juski: | assumptions are the MF of all erm.. something or other |
| [21:59:53] | notwoohoo: | anyways |
| [22:00:04] | notwoohoo: | i am getting no lirc love in myth still |
| [22:00:05] | notwoohoo: | sigh |
| [22:00:28] | evilDagmar: | Juski: You know what they say about "assume"... |
| [22:00:55] | evilDagmar: | I'm just as bad, but at least I have statistics on my side. |
| [22:00:58] | Juski: | notwoohoo: you've not been messing with the control definitions have you? i.e. mythcontrol ? or mythweb's key bindings stuff? |
| [22:01:00] | evilDagmar: | I assume they haven't really read a damn thing. |
| [22:01:12] | evilDagmar: | Way more than half the time I am painfully right. |
| [22:01:16] | gardengnome: | Juski: how's your s100, btw? |
| [22:01:26] | Juski: | still in the box I brought it home in |
| [22:01:27] | notwoohoo: | Juski: nope |
| [22:01:40] | gardengnome: | sounds good, mine is sitting on an abandoned chair |
| [22:01:49] | evilDagmar: | notwoohoo: No joke if you bear down on the lirc documentation and actually learn *how it works* all problems with lirc become transparent |
| [22:01:53] | Anduin: | jams: GetCurrentItem (for UIList) |
| [22:02:12] | medwards: | omg, seriously Juski did you get mythstreamtv to work? |
| [22:02:29] | medwards: | The compilation process for vlc alone is aboslutely un-freaking-believably ridiculous. |
| [22:02:30] | evilDagmar: | LIRC looks like it comes in two pieces when it really amounts to three, and when people only think there's two pieces, they only configure two pieces and that third one becomes pot luck |
| [22:02:41] | Juski: | medwards: yes I did. even on gentoo |
| [22:02:49] | notwoohoo: | whats the third then? :) |
| [22:03:03] | evilDagmar: | medwards: Well, you have to admin VLC is kind of the swiss-army knife on steroids and tetrameth for dealing with video |
| [22:03:54] | sphery: | Anduin: Looks much better. It compiled successfully. When my MythVideo tickets get closed, you'll know it's working for me. :) |
| [22:04:04] | evilDagmar: | notwoohoo: Part 1 is simply the harware interface itself. Getting the right things right there is tantamount. There's multiple types of rs-232 adapters, and plenty of strange kernel modules for built in blaster ports to boot that have their own things they need. |
| [22:04:27] | GE85: | you guys are awesome...that was it |
| [22:04:29] | Juski: | part 2 is the lircd.conf file. all hail the definition of which button is what |
| [22:04:33] | Anduin: | sphery: Your category ID reset db change isn't in yet. |
| [22:04:35] | GE85: | qt3-mysql needed to be installed |
| [22:04:38] | jams: | Anduin- thanks I will give that a try |
| [22:04:43] | evilDagmar: | notwoohoo: Part 2 is the kernel module, or lack thereof for some adapters. Miss this bit and everything breaks. This thing does *not* autoload becasue it's plugged into a serial port and there's about six different ways to get it entirely wrong. |
| [22:04:46] | Juski: | GE85: I am awesome, since I was the one who suggested it :-P |
| [22:05:04] | evilDagmar: | notwoohoo: Part 3 is just getting a config file working so that lirc can actually translate those IR signals into something useful. |
| [22:05:10] | GE85: | so SuSE did not automatically install it.. |
| [22:05:20] | notwoohoo: | i am using my ir port on my pvr350 |
| [22:05:24] | GE85: | stupid dependency's |
| [22:05:34] | Juski: | part 4 is getting the other half of the config files working and reading the documentation funnily enough |
| [22:05:55] | evilDagmar: | notwoohoo: Part FOUR is having lirc actually sending the right symbols to the software linked to it, and WAY many people go out of their way to invent step 5 which is running irxevent to emulate keypresses, which screws everything up when you're working with things that are linked against liblirc |
| [22:06:18] | evilDagmar: | Parts 3 and 4 each have their own, separate configuration files. |
| [22:06:28] | Juski: | and part 0 – the bit everybody misses out... that'd be RTFM |
| [22:06:31] | evilDagmar: | ...and yeah, I should probably just slap up a page on the WIki with a whole fsckton of hyperlinks in it |
| [22:06:39] | evilDagmar: | Juski++ |
| [22:07:10] | evilDagmar: | The ONLY thing I don't like about MediaWiki is that there's no appearent way to drop a flowchart or operational diagram into it |
| [22:07:24] | evilDagmar: | By now I've got the whole thing mapped out but no way to easily put it up into the Wiki |
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| [22:07:43] | notwoohoo: | it is just irritating, irw works and the config files are in place |
| [22:07:47] | notwoohoo: | no love in myth |
| [22:07:53] | notwoohoo: | oh well time to read up |
| [22:08:01] | Juski: | and read the config files |
| [22:08:04] | evilDagmar: | If people could just see MythTV in an exploded diagram form it would be a lot easier to set up, but of course would send some people running and screaming. :) |
| [22:08:37] | Juski: | if I could see people who persistently ask dumb questions explode... |
| [22:08:40] | sphery: | Anduin: Good to know. I'll patch that in (and update #2040 as necessary). |
| [22:09:11] | Juski: | no I didn't mean that. I'm sposed to be becoming an advocate :) |
| [22:09:39] | Anduin: | sphery: No need, it is on my list (only the DB update should be needed now anyway (if not let me know)) |
| [22:10:05] | Juski: | I should keep stats of the number of people I help vs the number of folks I call 'fucktard' |
| [22:10:12] | evilDagmar: | Juski: Not explode. BReak down into resealable bags for organ transplants. |
| [22:10:31] | Juski: | evilDagmar: yeah I guess they might as well make themselves be of some use |
| [22:11:01] | evilDagmar: | You just gotta read the labels carefully so you can find the one marked "bogon gland" and burn it. |
| [22:11:17] | sphery: | Anduin: Oh. I understand. Won't apply to me, then, since my DB has already been corrected. Thanks for the clarification. |
| [22:11:28] | Juski: | what the hell is wrong with me anyway? wanting to help folks out so much seems too much like a congenital defect to me sometimes |
| [22:11:33] | Chicago: | I'm having trouble connecting to my backend. This is the errorlog from mythfrontend. http://rafb.net/paste/results/6jrglW11.html I don't think I've had this problem before, it's with a new gentoo ebuild of mythtv... Anybody have a thought what I need to do? |
| [22:11:55] | evilDagmar: | Juski: Serotonin increases from solving complex problems are addictive |
| [22:12:06] | Juski: | Chicago: see the bit where it says "You probably should modify the Master Server settings in the setup program and set the proper IP address." .. that'll be a hint |
| [22:12:08] | GE85: | Jetski, you are the man...you helped me out a lot and made my day.. |
| [22:12:15] | GE85: | *Juski |
| [22:12:17] | GE85: | :P |
| [22:12:25] | Chicago: | Juski: It seems obvious. |
| [22:12:40] | GE85: | now |
| [22:12:40] | Juski: | if there's not a table for common faults & how to fix them in the wiki there bloody well should be |
| [22:12:44] | ** GE85 needs food ** | |
| [22:12:55] | Anduin: | sphery: Yeah, I don't actually use categories so I had no bad IDs, the cctor copies the ID now, but it should keep any id it has valid, making only purging previous bad ones the only issue (as far as I know). |
| [22:12:58] | sphery: | Juski: Thanks for helping GE85--I wasn't much help. (Too many distractions) |
| [22:13:00] | medwards: | THANKS FOR VOLUNTEERING TO MAKE IT JUSKI :P |
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| [22:13:10] | ru: | hi guys |
| [22:13:19] | ru: | where is the best place to download a "ROM pack" |
| [22:13:25] | Juski: | oh god. I don't want credit... I want MONEY! :-P |
| [22:13:35] | Chicago: | Juski: I have the IP address and the master IP address set to 192.168.0.6 in my mythtv-setup. So why doesn't the backend answer? I get a timed-out immediately... |
| [22:13:38] | ru: | its such a mission downloading one game at a time – I want to just get all the popular old ones |
| [22:13:42] | Juski: | ru: a web address that ends in .ru prolly |
| [22:13:48] | ** medwards snorts. ** | |
| [22:13:52] | Chicago: | ru: wrong question for this channel. |
| [22:14:31] | GE85: | lol... |
| [22:14:36] | Juski: | Chicago: did you set 192.168.0.6 to be mapped to the machine's hostname in /etc/hosts ? is /etc/hostname correct? |
| [22:14:39] | GE85: | I remember my rom days |
| [22:14:46] | ** jams kicks dirt at the popup box ** | |
| [22:15:08] | ru: | Chicago: Why wrong channel, mythtv has mythgame with uses emulators? |
| [22:15:12] | medwards: | ru: In order to be able to legally have ROMs in the states you need to have the original cartridges/arcadeboxes/whatever. The guys here get antsy about things with dubious legality (like just telling people where to get ROMs that they don't know they own) |
| [22:15:30] | Juski: | Chicago: I screwed up my /etc/hostname file the other day, and I got the very same error message you did ;) |
| [22:15:36] | ** Anduin throws more dirt on the other UI components ** | |
| [22:15:44] | ru: | medwards: lol |
| [22:15:48] | Chicago: | Juski: I'm sure that was it... I didn't have a 192.168.0.6 entry in my /etc/hosts. |
| [22:16:27] | Juski: | Chicago: though you do realise that for a single box mythtv setup you can just have 127.0.0.1 in the ip address fields don't you? |
| [22:16:52] | sphery: | Anduin: You know how Chutt mentioned combining MythVideo and MythDVD? Is there any (possibly very long-term) plan to consider putting MythVideo/MythDVD functionality into mythfrontend (perhaps with mythbackend support, eventually)? |
| [22:16:53] | Chicago: | Juski: It's only a single box setup for a short time... I usually add another machine once the first one works. |
| [22:17:07] | Chicago: | Juski: Strangely... even though I've fixed the /etc/hosts... that didn't fix it. |
| [22:17:07] | Juski: | Chicago: fair nuff |
| [22:17:19] | Juski: | Chicago: how about /etc/hostname ? |
| [22:17:20] | sphery: | Basically, to get rid of the plugins so everything is available from the playbackbox |
| [22:17:22] | Chicago: | ru: You should just get on overnet.com and get an ED2K client and search for them that way. |
| [22:17:53] | Chicago: | Juski: I have /etc/conf.d/hostname instead... and my hostname is set to "circle" |
| [22:17:57] | Juski: | ahh Chicago... /etc/my.cnf .... is that still bound to 127.0.0.1 ? |
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| [22:18:19] | Chicago: | Juski: No I bound /etc/mysql/my.cnf to 192.168.0.6 otherwise I wouln't get a connection to the database. |
| [22:18:22] | Juski: | oh yeah.. /etc/hostname is deprecated |
| [22:18:30] | Anduin: | sphery: Post .21 I'll combine them, after that, who knows. |
| [22:18:33] | Juski: | Chicago: righty |
| [22:18:53] | Chicago: | I guess I deserve troubles for using the ebuild instead of just compiling the svn again. |
| [22:18:54] | ru: | Chicago: Thanks |
| [22:19:03] | Juski: | plugins snaking their way into the common code? sounds promising :) |
| [22:19:12] | Chicago: | ru: There's about 40gig of them. |
| [22:19:42] | ru: | cool |
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| [22:25:16] | Juski: | right where were we? |
| [22:25:30] | Juski: | ahh yes |
| [22:25:31] | medwards: | I was silently bitching about vlc. |
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| [22:26:29] | Juski: | so Chicago... my.cnf is ok... (and you restarted mysql afterwards) – you have a valid hostname etc... okay. The hostname hasn't changed since you first set mythtv up has it? |
| [22:27:07] | Chicago: | Juski: I'm trying to do it as 127.0.0.1 now and I'm going to try and telnet to the mythbackend... and see if it's still refusing connections. |
| [22:27:40] | Juski: | you know that to accept changes to stuff like that, mythbackend needs to be restarted, right? |
| [22:27:45] | Chicago: | yes |
| [22:27:56] | Juski: | cool :) |
| [22:28:13] | sphery: | Anduin: Cool. I just thought it would be nice to have full access to all media (or, at first, at least video media) from one location in mfe. I also realize how much work it would be (especially if we continue to support external media players), so I'm not expecting it to happen soon but may put the idea on my backburner of Myth projects. |
| [22:29:25] | Chicago: | Hmm... well here's what I'm getting... I have the mythtv-setup options for the server/masterserver @127.0.0.1 and I have started the backend... Then as a non-root user, I do "telnet 127.0.0.1 6543" and I get connection refused. |
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| [22:29:50] | Juski: | sphery: that'll be a completely brilliant and viable solution – especially when the internal dvd player is up to scratch :) |
| [22:29:53] | Anduin: | sphery: Yeah, my real hope is for something like optional UPnP support for that screen. |
| [22:30:28] | Juski: | actually I need to check out the internal dvd player.. see how much it's come on |
| [22:30:41] | Anduin: | Yeah, until the internal player passes the "key mash" test, well the external player option isn't going anywhere. |
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| [22:32:54] | Juski: | oooo me likey... menus now work... |
| [22:35:03] | Chicago: | I've just decided to unmerge the gentoo mythtv ebuilds and try building it again. |
| [22:35:11] | Juski: | ouch |
| [22:35:17] | Juski: | just for this? |
| [22:35:49] | Chicago: | Juski: I have ccache on... so it wont' take long to retry. |
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| [22:37:37] | Juski: | hooray for ccache :) |
| [22:38:04] | Chicago: | hip hip hooray |
| [22:38:26] | Juski: | for distcc, even more so :) |
| [22:38:35] | Chicago: | yup |
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| [22:42:28] | pr0bity: | alright, just finished installing latest ivtv firmware for my pvr-500, here is a clip of one of my test records, just wanted to make sure I don't have too high of expectations for this thing? |
| [22:42:30] | pr0bity: | http://www.geocities.com/jimbounce7/test.mpeg |
| [22:42:35] | pr0bity: | to me it looks like crap. |
| [22:43:37] | Juski: | looks that way to me too |
| [22:43:47] | pr0bity: | heh, alright. |
| [22:43:50] | Juski: | it should look way better than that |
| [22:43:59] | pr0bity: | thx |
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| [22:44:26] | Juski: | try a newer ivtv driver – the samsung tuner trouble _should_ be over by now |
| [22:44:43] | Chicago: | pr0bity: do... already exceeded your data transfer limit |
| [22:44:48] | Juski: | pr0bity: how many ways is the coax feed to the system split? |
| [22:45:04] | pr0bity: | sorry chicago, geocities sucks. |
| [22:45:19] | pr0bity: | juski, just install the atrpms... thought that'd put in the latest? :| |
| [22:45:28] | Hoxzer: | is it normal if some of my clan mates "tease me because I use linux? |
| [22:45:56] | Juski: | Hoxzer: clan mates? get some REAL friends |
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| [22:46:06] | Anduin: | Hoxzer: It isn't normal to have clan mates. |
| [22:46:08] | pr0bity: | juski, the main line (the one that comes to my room, not sure what happenes inside) is put through an amp, then split once, with one side getting put to the comp. |
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| [22:46:17] | Juski: | either that or code up a storm & pwn their asses :-P |
| [22:46:25] | pr0bity: | I take the same coax from the comp and put it directly into the tv and it looks great. |
| [22:46:30] | Juski: | pr0bity: right. samsung tuner bug then |
| [22:46:47] | pr0bity: | sweet, so the atrpms didn't install the latest? |
| [22:47:18] | Juski: | pr0bity: check ivtvdriver.org for info on what is 'latest' |
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| [22:54:43] | pr0bity: | yeah I have the latest 0.7.0 installed |
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| [22:55:53] | ru_: | how do i force applications to launch in specific screen in my xinerama? |
| [22:56:48] | Juski: | ru_: check the xorg docs out |
| [22:57:38] | ru_: | ok |
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| [23:00:37] | pr0bity: | juski, I'm running down the samsung line of thought, have you applied any kind of patch of that kind? |
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| [23:01:40] | Juski: | pr0bity: nope – but there was a problem with the ivtv guys not knowing about a bit that had to be set in the samsung tuner for it to work properly. Now they know, and all _should_ (in theory) be well. Whether or not the fix has made it into all versions I do not know |
| [23:02:20] | ru_: | I cant seem to find anything, could you point me in the right direction possibly Juski? |
| [23:08:16] | ru_: | Can it actually be done on a per application basis? |
| [23:08:30] | ru_: | Will I have to launch the thing using some weird X binary? |
| [23:08:37] | ru_: | like XLIB_xyz or whatever? |
| [23:08:58] | ru_: | my problem is when i launch the emulator from myth it opens it on the screen on the right in fulllscreen |
| [23:09:03] | ru_: | a lot of things do this – like vlc as well |
| [23:09:56] | Juski: | I found this with google: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/fa . . . ml#id2552978 |
| [23:10:34] | ru_: | Thanks Juski, let me check it out |
| [23:11:35] | pr0bity: | ugh, all I'm pulling down is having to modify tuner-types.c in the kernel |
| [23:13:39] | ru_: | does a multi head setup running xinerama actually count as 2 desktops? |
| [23:13:46] | ru_: | If so how do you list all your desktops under kde? |
| [23:15:23] | hads|home: | I don't believe xinerama screens count as desktops no. |
| [23:15:49] | ru_: | hmm damn didnt think so |
| [23:15:54] | ru_: | so will the kstart command help me? |
| [23:16:17] | hads|home: | I don't know soory, but I doubt it. |
| [23:20:12] | pr0bity: | ugh, guys got any pointers on how I go about modifying some c file in the kernel? |
| [23:20:17] | pr0bity: | noob to linux.... |
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| [23:21:25] | Saviq: | ru_: the basic way: accessing xinerama or no-xinerama dual head goes with :0.0 :0.1 |
| [23:21:32] | ru_: | There has to be a way to do it, because you can specify it in mythfrontend |
| [23:21:41] | ru_: | Saviq: ok |
| [23:21:47] | Saviq: | so running DISPLAY=:0.1 xterm& should show up the term on your second screen |
| [23:21:52] | ru_: | Saviq: Could you elaborate? |
| [23:22:01] | ru_: | Saviq: Aah ok I understand somewhat |
| [23:22:05] | hads|home: | ru_: Try setting DISPLAY=:0.0 for screen 1 and DISPLAY=:0.1 for |
| [23:22:12] | Saviq: | if all's set up correctly |
| [23:22:19] | hads|home: | Ah, I see Saviq bet me to it :) |
| [23:23:02] | Saviq: | Though ru_ if You want to run myth on dual head... be prepared for some annoyances... |
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| [23:23:33] | word: | Anduin: you still around? |
| [23:23:42] | ru_: | Saviq: I am running it on xinerama, I dont find it annoying |
| [23:23:55] | Anduin: | word: maybe |
| [23:24:14] | word: | it seems that it happened again after watching live tv for about half an hour :( |
| [23:24:16] | ru_: | Saviq: The only annoying this was/is Xine – it launched on the screen where the mouse was, which was sometimes wrong |
| [23:24:31] | ru_: | Saviq: But that should now be fixed by using the DISPLAY= value |
| [23:24:38] | Saviq: | yep |
| [23:24:52] | Anduin: | word: Check dmesg for a better error/more info (paste it to a paste site) |
| [23:25:01] | word: | Anduin: got some neat error messages though..yah i'm pasting them now |
| [23:25:39] | ru_: | hmm the DISPLAY doesnt seem to be doing anything |
| [23:25:43] | word: | Anduin: http://pastebin.ca/128413 |
| [23:25:57] | ru_: | $DISPLAY=:0.1 & mycommand |
| [23:26:00] | ru_: | is that wrong? |
| [23:26:05] | Saviq: | yep |
| [23:26:06] | hads|home: | Drop the $ |
| [23:26:12] | Saviq: | and & |
| [23:26:19] | Saviq: | DISPLAY=:0.1 mycommand |
| [23:26:28] | ru_: | yeah I was just using the $ to show the start of the cmd :) |
| [23:26:32] | ru_: | Saviq: ok |
| [23:27:13] | ru_: | get some weird errors |
| [23:27:16] | ru_: | let me pastebin them |
| [23:27:39] | ru_: | hmm weird |
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| [23:28:59] | Ediehow: | can diamond pvr 550 work with mythtv? |
| [23:29:01] | word: | Anduin: any ideas? |
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| [23:29:23] | jieryn: | anyone have a front end operating on a machine separate from the back end? |
| [23:29:47] | Saviq: | probably most of them :] |
| [23:30:05] | jieryn: | two distinct machines? |
| [23:30:15] | word: | not me..but i just managed to set it up so the frontend runs on a seperate x window which is on my tv :D |
| [23:30:34] | Anduin: | word: Not really |
| [23:30:55] | Juski: | Ediehow: prolly not |
| [23:31:14] | word: | Anduin: can it be caused by it failing to write to the hd? that's what i'm understanding from 'dma error' |
| [23:31:30] | word: | I have a couple of bad blocks on my hd that i've been meaning to add to the badblocks list |
| [23:31:51] | Anduin: | word: The card uses DMA as well (it isn't just for HDDs) |
| [23:32:02] | word: | ah, i see. |
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| [23:34:21] | gmoore: | is a Hauppauge PVR150 any good? |
| [23:34:36] | Juski: | yes |
| [23:34:56] | Ediehow: | i use the 150 |
| [23:35:15] | Ediehow: | Juski: do you see some kind of hardware decoding for ati ever happening w/myth? |
| [23:35:36] | Juski: | Ediehow: the ivtv docs mention the diamond pvr550 – and not in a bad way. it might be a pvr500 clone I dunno |
| [23:35:58] | Ediehow: | thx Juski |
| [23:36:03] | Ediehow: | Juski: do you have a minute? |
| [23:36:06] | Juski: | as for ATI getting xvmc – see flashbot (slashdot) about a rumour AMD are gonna make some of the ATI driver open source |
| [23:36:17] | Ediehow: | amd owns ati? |
| [23:36:25] | Anduin: | Ediehow: not yet |
| [23:36:35] | Ediehow: | Juski: i have no serial ports anymore, just this serial to usb adapter which i use for my remote |
| [23:36:43] | Ediehow: | anyhow, i am going to switch to satellite soon, and i want to continue using mythtv |
| [23:36:45] | Ediehow: | so what should i do? |
| [23:37:00] | Saviq: | get a dvb-s card |
| [23:37:06] | Ediehow: | i have to buy another card? |
| [23:37:19] | Juski: | make sure your satellite STB has an enabled serial port? How the heck should I know? |
| [23:37:23] | Saviq: | depends how You want to use it |
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| [23:37:38] | Juski: | Saviq: DVB-S isn't an option in the USA |
| [23:37:39] | ru: | grr stupid power |
| [23:37:40] | Ediehow: | Juski: im asking how people usually use a satellite with mythtv |
| [23:38:04] | Ediehow: | Juski: so i need to get one that has a serial port hook up... is it likely i can use that serial port hookup with a serial to usb adapter? |
| [23:38:13] | gardengnome: | Juski: that rumour about ATI going OSS is not true. at least that's what ATI says :) |
| [23:38:23] | Juski: | Ediehow: this is me, starting to sound like a frickin broken record... read the wiki & faqs |
| [23:38:42] | Ediehow: | Juski: this is the first time i asked you about this. you left when i asked you earlier |
| [23:39:15] | Saviq: | so it's two times too much |
| [23:39:16] | Juski: | gardengnome: I believe the full statement from ATI said "yeah we'll give you all the source... from our cold, dead hands..." |
| [23:39:27] | Juski: | no I mean I keep repeating... |
| [23:39:35] | Juski: | CHECK THE WIKI & READ THE FAQs |
| [23:39:36] | pr0bity: | ugh I've had enough of troubleshooting for one day.... |
| [23:39:45] | pr0bity: | thanks for your help juski, I'll work on this nonsense more tomorrow. |
| [23:39:48] | Ediehow: | Juski: you never told me that about the satellite thing, as earlier was the first time i asked you |
| [23:40:06] | Ediehow: | and i've googled for that stuff and i get confusing results |
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| [23:40:17] | Ediehow: | some people told me all i needed was an ir blaster |
| [23:40:23] | ** Juski bashes his pet mouse on the desk until it stops wriggling in his hand ** | |
| [23:40:34] | ru: | Saviq: heres the error: www.pastebin.ca/128426 |
| [23:40:52] | gardengnome: | Juski: heh |
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| [23:41:08] | Ediehow: | Juski: try googling for satellite and mythtv and you'll see what i mean |
| [23:41:28] | Juski: | Ediehow: TRY READING THE FUCKING MYTHTV FAQS AND THE WIKI |
| [23:41:38] | Ediehow: | Juski: WHAT DO YOU THINK I'VE BEEN SEARCHING FOR ON GOOGLE |
| [23:41:40] | Ediehow: | HOLY COW! |
| [23:41:43] | Ediehow: | DO YOU THINK MAYBE I READ THOSE TWO? |
| [23:41:44] | Ediehow: | TOO? |
| [23:41:49] | gmoore: | UPPERCASE LETTERS |
| [23:41:55] | gardengnome: | gmoore: WEEEEEE |
| [23:41:58] | Juski: | judging by your question, no |
| [23:42:00] | Ediehow: | sheesh man! i just told you that several times |
| [23:42:06] | Juski: | I was shouting, FYI |
| [23:42:15] | Ediehow: | i was shouting as well, because i've told you that at least 3 or 4 times |
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| [23:42:32] | ru: | damnit the power here sucks |
| [23:42:44] | Juski: | Ediehow: then you've missed it somehow |
| [23:42:45] | gmoore: | THE INTERNET IS SERIOUS BUSINESS LET US CONTINUE TO YELL AND GET RED IN THE FACE REGARDING TV TUNER CARDS ARRRGHHH THEY MAKE ME SO ANGRY!!! |
| [23:42:46] | ru: | if I run DISPLAY=0:0 it works |
| [23:42:59] | Ediehow: | Juski: if i've missed it, why don't you know? |
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| [23:43:04] | Saviq: | ru: tried with an xterm? |
| [23:43:04] | Ediehow: | especially if you know i've missed it? |
| [23:43:11] | gardengnome: | gmoore: IT'S ABOUT HOOKING UP A SATELLITE RECEIVER TO MYTHTV GODDAMMIT!! :) |
| [23:43:14] | Juski: | Ediehow: okay for the benefit of you, and the log.. and anyone else... |
| [23:43:16] | Ediehow: | yeah, one site i am looking at now talks about irblaster |
| [23:43:16] | gardengnome: | ok, enough shouting. |
| [23:43:23] | Ediehow: | that's why this is confusing |
| [23:43:34] | Juski: | you connect a sat box up to your mythtv box |
| [23:43:52] | Ediehow: | http://www.eggshellskull.com/lirc/blaster/index.php |
| [23:43:55] | Ediehow: | this is saying i need an ir blaster |
| [23:44:04] | Juski: | to change channels on the sat box you can use an IR blaster (lame) or if the box supports it you can use a serial cable |
| [23:44:10] | Juski: | okay?! |
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| [23:44:27] | Ediehow: | so it's either ir blaster OR if the box supports serial? |
| [23:44:28] | Ediehow: | not both? |
| [23:44:39] | Saviq: | damn |
| [23:44:50] | Saviq: | do You understand what you need it for at all? |
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| [23:45:14] | Ediehow: | Juski: in the scenario of the box supporting it, is that what you were saying earlier would NOT work over a usb to serial adapter? |
| [23:45:58] | Saviq: | that depends on the adapter, imo |
| [23:46:08] | Ediehow: | Saviq: the adapter i have now allows me to use my serial remote |
| [23:46:15] | Ediehow: | but Juski said something about that being different |
| [23:46:24] | Juski: | Ooooo just look at this from the FAQ section of the wiki... |
| [23:46:25] | Juski: | Q: Since I need to keep using my Cable/Sat box, how can I control it with MythTV? A few different ways, and it depends on your specific hardware and the provider. Possibilities include Serial Control, USB Control, Firewire Control, and IR Blaster (using the PC as a programmable IR Remote Control). See the HOWTO for details |
| [23:47:26] | Juski: | Ediehow: no I meant the kind of receivers that people build to work with generic remote controls – the home made (homebrew) affairs with the 3-pin IR receiver chips – THOSE won't work with USB to serial adapters |
| [23:47:38] | Ediehow: | Juski: oh ok |
| [23:48:25] | Ediehow: | Juski: so, assuming i get a box that plugs straight into my computer, the scenario would be i would have to use the satellite remote, or i could continue to use my current remote as myth could control the channels through satellite(through pc connection) |
| [23:48:49] | Saviq: | damn it your tough to handle... |
| [23:49:00] | Ediehow: | Saviq: you're not adding much here |
| [23:49:12] | Saviq: | read what was said before |
| [23:49:22] | Ediehow: | Juski: the reason i ask is because i've got so many conflicting pages about what all is required |
| [23:49:26] | Saviq: | the cable is for the mythtv to be able to control Your satbox |
| [23:49:38] | Ediehow: | Saviq: i know that |
| [23:49:44] | Juski: | Ediehow: that's because there are too many fucking armchair experts out there presenting opinions as facts |
| [23:49:49] | Saviq: | so if you control mythtv then you control your sat box |
| [23:49:54] | Juski: | but hey – that's what makes the internet go round |
| [23:50:23] | Juski: | someone draw this guy a diagram... |
| [23:50:23] | Ediehow: | i guess my question was, then, are usb to serial adapters known to work with satellite boxes with serial ports, in linux w/mythtv |
| [23:50:59] | Juski: | you control mythtv with your remote as normal. mythtv then changes the channel on the set top box with its magic via the IR blaster/serial cable/whatever |
| [23:51:08] | Ediehow: | Juski: i know.... |
| [23:51:24] | evilDagmar: | Booyah! Third freakin' motherboard's the charm |
| [23:51:25] | Ediehow: | <Ediehow> i guess my question was, then, are usb to serial adapters known to work with satellite boxes with serial ports, in linux w/mythtv |
| [23:51:44] | Juski: | Ediehow: that's also (kind of) covered in the wiki |
| [23:51:52] | Ediehow: | i am searching for that page you mentioned in the wiki |
| [23:51:57] | Ediehow: | do you have the url for the specific topic? |
| [23:52:06] | evilDagmar: | Ediehow: IF the serial connection is actually RS-232 communication, it should work |
| [23:52:22] | Ediehow: | Juski: im hoping it will be as easy as telling the satellite people "i want this specific box" |
| [23:52:33] | Ediehow: | as i've never had satellite personally, i didn't know anything about that |
| [23:52:42] | Juski: | neither have I... |
| [23:52:52] | word: | Anduin: it appears this is an answer to my problems – http://ivtv.writeme.ch/tiki-view_faq.php?faqId=1#q33 |
| [23:53:00] | Ediehow: | Controlling DirecTV STB via USB |
| [23:53:07] | Ediehow: | you said STB is not supported in america, right? |
| [23:53:16] | Juski: | tell them you want to stream the channels over a LAN and change channels with HTTP requests.. that'd screw them for a bit |
| [23:53:22] | evilDagmar: | heheh |
| [23:53:37] | Anduin: | word: Ah, old VIA chip set? |
| [23:53:47] | Saviq: | Ediehow: DVB's not supported |
| [23:53:48] | Ediehow: | ideally i'd get a box that had a usb port that was supported in mythtv |
| [23:53:54] | Ediehow: | Saviq: oh ok |
| [23:53:55] | Saviq: | yep |
| [23:53:56] | Juski: | Ediehow: STB == set top box. I said DVB-S was not supported |
| [23:53:59] | word: | Anduin: not all that old but it looks like that fits into my problems |
| [23:54:09] | Ediehow: | i think i heard dishtv was the way to go |
| [23:54:25] | Ediehow: | i mean dish network |
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| [23:55:08] | word: | Ediehow: you'd be better off looking up on the internet which was better on review sites for different companies or whatever. |
| [23:55:21] | Ediehow: | k |
| [23:57:32] | Juski: | or maybe go into a dealer & compare them in person.. yeah now there's an idea |
| [23:57:48] | Ediehow: | but i was talking more about what boxes and such |
| [23:57:56] | Ediehow: | which usb one works with myth |
| [23:57:59] | Ediehow: | but i guess i'll find out later |
| [23:58:08] | Chicago: | Juski: Very strange... /etc/init.d/mythbackend must be incorrect... because when I changed to /usr/bin and ran ./mythbackend -d.... now I can connect. |
| [23:59:02] | Juski: | Chicago: then the init script is launching mythbackend as the 'wrong' user... a user who doesn't have ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt, perhaps |
| [23:59:39] | sphery: | Anduin: still here? |
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