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word: |
no idea |
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Ediehow: |
how do i make myth output to two alsa cards? |
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wireddd: |
ok, ivtv is working, now I just need to get mythtv to work |
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spishax: |
ok Im a little confused, the channel icons are on my backend server, is this correct? |
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kormoc: |
no |
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kormoc: |
each frontend needs them locally |
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spishax: |
aaah |
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bRuZdEGO: |
prologic, the new ones are bad |
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bRuZdEGO: |
I have a new one, it has a new chip on it |
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bRuZdEGO: |
and chris pascoe is doing a csv branch alternate for it |
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bRuZdEGO: |
I cna not use mine at the moment thou, but i think mine is Dead on Arrival |
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bRuZdEGO: |
so to get it too work complete this |
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bRuZdEGO: |
http://www.linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/How_to_build_from_CVS |
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bRuZdEGO: |
BUT use this http://linuxtv.org/hg/~pascoe/v4l-dvb-test/ driver. :) |
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bRuZdEGO: |
and it "should" work now. :) |
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Ryushin: |
Hmmm... I've having a weird issue now with the mythfrontend. Some of the writing and pictures in my theme is reversed in color. This is after upgrading to x.org 7, the latest nvidia driver, and the 2.6.17.8 kernel. |
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bocaJ: |
I have a barebones shuttle PC I am turning into a PVR. Unfortunatly, it 1 PCI slot. I am considering using an ATI all-in-wonder, and a pcHDTV-5500 so that I can watch TV and record at the same time. I read the wiki article on ATI cards ( http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATI_All-in-W . . . To_(English) ) and I was unclear what cards are supported and if paralell recording/watching was possible. thoughts? |
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rlbond1: |
hey guys, my mythtv box is working nicely. the problem is, some channels in the 60–65 range are not working, they just appear like grey, interference-ridden versions of other channelas |
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Ryushin: |
This is through DVI. KDE looks fine, and it looks fine through x11vnc. |
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rlbond1: |
does anyone else have this problem? |
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Ryushin: |
bocaJ: The all in wonder cards are not supported. |
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Ryushin: |
rlbond1: What card? |
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rlbond1: |
pvr-500 |
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Ryushin: |
I saw this problem with older drivers. What driver are you using? |
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rlbond1: |
i don't know, actually |
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rlbond1: |
whatever came with knoppmyth |
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Ryushin: |
Oh. Well, you will probably need the latest ivtv driver for your kernel. |
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rlbond1: |
oh it's an ivtv thing? |
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Ryushin: |
That's actually one reason why I use source. |
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rlbond1: |
yea well, my linux knowledge is microscopic, haha |
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Ryushin: |
Most likely. Actually, it's a hauppauge thing and them changing their tuners on almost a monthly basis. |
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rlbond1: |
haha |
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rlbond1: |
ok so you think updating to the latest ivtv drivers for my kernel should fix it? |
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bocaJ: |
does anyone have experience with the pcHDTV-5500 cards? looking over the forums there seem to be a number of horror stories. |
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Ryushin: |
I would suggest joining the knoppmyth forum, and posting your question there, They will probably give you an idea on how to correctly, knoppmyth style, update your ivtv driver. |
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spishax: |
when running mythfrontend as a non-root user, my remote doesnt work, but /dev/lircd and /dev/lirc/0 are all mode 666, is there something im missing? |
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Ryushin: |
bocaJ: I have the HD3000 card, which is pretty much the same thing. |
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spishax: |
running mode2 as a non-root user and hitting buttons on the remote shows hex codes as well |
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wireddd: |
ok, I finnally got ivtv working, and I can cat video0 to a file and that works, but when I goto watch live tv in myth, it just flashes the screen black for a second and then goes back to the main menu, here is the output from various things... http://pastebin.ca/125865 |
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Ryushin: |
bojaJ: Actually, the HD3000, and the 5500 card should be no problem to install now. |
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Ryushin: |
The kernels 2.6.16 on up, have full support for it. |
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spishax: |
durrrr, no lircrc file for the user in question :) |
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** spishax goes away ** |
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Ryushin: |
bocaJ: You're real issue is going to having enough horsepower to play HD. |
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wireddd: |
Ryushin, do you think you could look at what I posted to the pastebin and give me a little guidance |
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Ryushin: |
Nevermind about my problem. Downgrading my nvidia driver fixed my issue. |
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Ryushin: |
wireddd: k. |
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wireddd: |
I am thinking I should just wipe the mysql db and start over |
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Ryushin: |
Have you set up your setup correctly? I would double check that. |
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wireddd: |
i've been through it several times |
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Ryushin: |
It could not find tuner 1. Check mythtv-setup. |
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wireddd: |
I am pretty sure it is setup correctly |
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bocaJ: |
Ryushin: what would you recomend as the minimum for HD recording/playback? |
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Ryushin: |
Which proc? |
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Ryushin: |
Which Video card? |
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bocaJ: |
Athlon64, this is being given to me so I'm not sure exactly which. I have not bought a video card yet |
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Ryushin: |
Well, if you can cat video0 and have it display a channel, then it's probably a setup issue. |
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Ryushin: |
bocaJ: A Athlon64 should be fine. I would recommend a DVI nvidia FX5200 card. Though, that only leaves you one slot. |
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bocaJ: |
?? |
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bocaJ: |
I only have one slot... |
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Ryushin: |
Do you have a AGP or PCI-E slot as well as the PCI. |
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bocaJ: |
AGP |
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Ryushin: |
bocaJ: Do you have a HDTV with a DVI or HDMI in? |
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bocaJ: |
no |
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bocaJ: |
I don't have an HDTV, I just plan to watch on my computer |
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Ryushin: |
K. Well, you should get a DVI/VGA nVidia FX5200 video card. It should only be about $35.00 US. |
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Ryushin: |
You will probably have to explore a USB NTSC tuner for normal cable, and then plug in the pcHDTV card in your PCI slot. |
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Ryushin: |
I would do some research to find out which USB tuner works well in myth. |
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bocaJ: |
do you have a recomendation? |
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bocaJ: |
does the pcHDTV not pick up NTSC? |
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Ryushin: |
There are a lot of drivers in the kernel for USB tuners, so doing some googling should give you some results. |
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Ryushin: |
Anyway, I'm off to get something to eat. |
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Ryushin: |
Bye all. |
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bocaJ: |
bye, thanks for the help |
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wireddd: |
so can you actually watch live tv via the mythtv xbmc plugin? |
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Aid`: |
hi |
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AngryElf: |
lemme just say that NFL + mythTV = awesome |
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Ediehow: |
how do i make myth play through 2 alsa sound cards? |
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Aid`: |
AngryElf: why's that? |
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AngryElf: |
skipping commercials |
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AngryElf: |
crappy commentary between plays |
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Aid`: |
oh lol |
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Aid`: |
ya it goes straight through the plays |
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AngryElf: |
the colts have some crazy new system to snap that ball without saying anything |
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AngryElf: |
they're completely silent, then the play starts — no audibles at all |
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Aid`: |
hmm weird |
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Ediehow: |
how do i make myth play through 2 alsa sound cards? |
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Ediehow: |
does anyone know? |
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bmk789: |
both at once? |
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Ediehow: |
yes |
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AngryElf: |
that's an #alsa question |
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Ediehow: |
nah, im asking about from the frontend prefs |
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AngryElf: |
i dont think you can |
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Ediehow: |
oh ok |
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AngryElf: |
although |
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AngryElf: |
it's trivial to edit your alsa config file to pipe the sound out of two devices |
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AngryElf: |
so, like i said, ask in #alsa or check our their faqs |
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Ediehow: |
k |
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Ediehow: |
i just didn't know if there was something in m-frontend that also did it |
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AngryElf: |
nope |
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** jepeltw looks for mythfrontend 0.19.1 for Mac ** |
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jepeltw: |
daniel_bergamini! |
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jepeltw: |
hello all, I'm trying to diagnose slow operation in the Program Guide. Moving the cursor typically takes about 2 seconds. The frontend is a Mac mini, OS 10.4.7/PPC. The backend is a K6–2 380 mhz. The backend is not greatly taxed while moving though the guide or playing live TV |
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bmk789: |
wired ethernet? |
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jepeltw: |
bmk789, yes, 100 mbps |
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jepeltw: |
bmk789, I just checked Activity Monitor on the frontend and CPU is jumping to 100% when I move around |
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bmk789: |
id say its either your database or frontend |
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bmk789: |
so its the frontend |
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jepeltw: |
bmk789, I changed Guide settings to the one with low CPU usage and it's improved a bit |
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bmk789: |
how did you install? |
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jepeltw: |
I also quit iTunes |
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bmk789: |
from source? |
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jepeltw: |
bmk789, ubuntu packages on the backend according to dapper howto and PPC dmg files on the front again according to howto |
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jepeltw: |
I'm now trying mythfrontend 0.19-fixes-20060407 |
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bmk789: |
if i were you id build that latest stable version from scratch, might help a bit |
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bmk789: |
from source* |
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bmk789: |
whered i get scratch |
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bmk789: |
its too late for this, im tired |
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jepeltw: |
bmk789, this new frontend version already feels snappier |
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bmk789: |
so its all better now? |
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jepeltw: |
the Guide started out slow |
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jepeltw: |
it's a bit better, but CPU still keeps hitting 100% |
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kacheng: |
hello? |
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bocaJ: |
hello |
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kacheng: |
I'm having a problem with my mythconverg database. |
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kacheng: |
It seems to be out of sync with what's actually recorded. |
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kacheng: |
I get Auto |
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kacheng: |
AutoExpire errors |
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kacheng: |
and file not found (both mpg and png) errors |
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kacheng: |
is there any way to rebuild the database? |
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kacheng: |
or delete the stray records? |
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kacheng: |
i'm also new to irc. I thought there would be tons of traffic. am I doing something incorrectly? I can't see any traffic except for bocaJ |
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opello: |
nah, just not people typing |
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opello: |
if you need a question answered, stick around until someone has some time to answer it :) |
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kacheng: |
cool thanks |
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fury: |
do the Hauppauge PVR series (150, specifically) record sound off the card, or will i need to pull that off a sound card? |
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jepeltw: |
fury, off the card, no sound card or btaudio needed |
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jepeltw: |
fury, I have a 150, if you've got any questions |
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word: |
i don't get any sound still :( |
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word: |
jepeltw: ever heard of anyone having problems with sound with a 150? |
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word: |
so..any ideas what could cause no audio from mythtv live tv or the videos it creates with a pvr-150? |
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fury: |
jepeltw: hey, thanks a ton. mine's in the mail :) |
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gnuyen: |
hi guys |
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gnuyen: |
i'm trying to install mythweb 0.19 |
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gnuyen: |
and i can't figure out where to enter my database information |
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gnuyen: |
conf.php doesn't have a section for that |
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kormoc: |
edit the .htacess file, like the readme says to |
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gnuyen: |
you put the database stuff in the .htaccess file? |
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gnuyen: |
crazy |
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gnuyen: |
thanks |
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gnuyen: |
i upgraded to 0.19 with packages |
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gnuyen: |
do i have to upgrade the database somehow? |
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gnuyen: |
is there an upgrade script? or is the backend smart enough to do that on it's own |
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kormoc: |
the backend deals with that |
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fury: |
so the whole point in building my pvr is to location-shift (i'm moving to europe for 10 months and want to keep my tv). my upload is only 768, does anyone have any good reccomendations for what codecs to use to get a nice stream at that speed? |
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fury: |
will mpeg1 cut it, or can i do better? |
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kormoc: |
you'll have to try and see |
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kormoc: |
given, what's good for me, won't be good to a lot of people |
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jepeltw: |
fury, the PVR-150 puts out MPEG2. At the default quality, an 11 Mbps 802.11b connection is *not* fast enough to play smoothly with default cache settings |
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jepeltw: |
you'll need to reduce the quality and perhaps increase the cache, if that is possible. I use NFS, but I've heard there's an internal myth protocol |
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fury: |
jepeltw: well, i'm going to have to transcode from mpeg2 after the fact, that's for sure. |
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kormoc: |
fury, just a fyi, mpeg2 is gonna be larger then mpeg2 |
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fury: |
you mean larger than mpeg1 |
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kormoc: |
erm |
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kormoc: |
no |
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kormoc: |
I mean mpeg1 is gonna be larger then mpeg2 |
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kormoc: |
sorry |
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jepeltw: |
and mpeg4 the smallest of them all? |
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kormoc: |
tends to be |
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kormoc: |
at around the same quality image |
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fury: |
i got the pvr-150 because i plan on using it as a standalone box when i get back, nice to let the card to the work. but for the europe move, i need tiny |
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kormoc: |
although, at 768kbps, you're gonna be dealing with video the quality of google video for example |
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fury: |
i can deal with that |
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kormoc: |
tho, unless it's a powerful box, don't really expect realtime encoding |
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jepeltw: |
how powerful would one need for realtime encoding? |
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fury: |
for "good" shows i don't mind waiting on the transfer, but for everyday stuff, google video quality would be more than adaquate |
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kormoc: |
with xris' and my testing, FLV video needed a 2.4 ghz or so to do real-time encoding |
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kormoc: |
with divx/mpeg4/xvid, my 2.8 ghz 64 bit dual core proc is still 2x real time |
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jepeltw: |
ouch |
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kormoc: |
perhaps the conroe's can do realtime, but I haven't tested one to be sure |
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fury: |
ouch indeed |
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kormoc: |
I'd still be thinking that the conroe would peak out at about 1.5x to 1.7x |
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fury: |
realtime isn't too bad, since i'll be watching things like 9+ hours after they're recorded |
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fury: |
but i only have a 2ghz box available |
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kormoc: |
Well, if you're just exporting all the time, you should be able to have more then you can transfer |
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gnuyen: |
okay my apache with this .htaccess file |
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gnuyen: |
won't let me access the directory |
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gnuyen: |
says there's a misconfiguration |
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kormoc: |
gnuyen, ooh? |
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gnuyen: |
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. |
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kormoc: |
might want to check the logs then |
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gnuyen: |
if i dont' have modrewrite |
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gnuyen: |
can i just delete the last few lines? |
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gnuyen: |
the Rewrite rules? |
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kormoc: |
not really |
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gnuyen: |
or is it required for mythweb |
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