| Tuesday, July 18th, 2006, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:06] | Josiah: | i dont know how to configure my video card, tvcard, or network card |
| [00:00:13] | Josiah: | correction wireless card |
| [00:00:32] | Hiall: | jammyd: im using debian |
| [00:01:10] | Josiah: | $100 just for helping me |
| [00:01:44] | jammyd: | Hiall: Sorry, I got confused by Josiah replying to my question |
| [00:02:08] | Josiah: | sorry jammyd and hiall |
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| [00:02:35] | jammyd: | Josiah: I don't have time to help I'm afraid. I don't have network connectivity at home, and I'm only here for a few more hours before I fly back to the US |
| [00:02:43] | jammyd: | err, back to the UK. I'm *in* the US :) |
| [00:03:04] | Josiah: | well thank you anyway |
| [00:03:07] | TMM1: | any gentoo users? i re-emerged qt with the mysql flag but mythtv is still suffering from the qmysql3 driver not loaded issue |
| [00:03:53] | Hiall: | jammyd: so do you know one for debian? :| |
| [00:04:13] | kormoc: | TMM1, you sure you have the file? |
| [00:04:23] | TMM1: | which file? |
| [00:04:38] | kormoc: | the one it's asking for |
| [00:05:08] | gardengnome: | TMM1: did you re-emerge qt3 or qt4? |
| [00:05:10] | TMM1: | its not asking for a file. mythtvbackend.log states "QMYSQL3 driver not loaded" |
| [00:05:27] | TMM1: | gardengnome: 4 |
| [00:05:31] | jammyd: | Hiall: Have you tried googling ? |
| [00:05:42] | TMM1: | gotta do 3 don't it, damn. there goes another hour |
| [00:05:57] | jammyd: | Hiall: http://www.ecliptik.com/?page=article&art_id=10 |
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| [00:06:02] | Hiall: | jammyd: for about 2hours :P |
| [00:06:10] | TMM1: | is there a package for qt3 or do i force version |
| [00:06:39] | gardengnome: | TMM1: you'll need qt, that's all i can tell |
| [00:07:04] | kormoc: | TMM1, you need to force version if you're gonna re-emerge one that's already merged |
| [00:07:46] | jammyd: | Hiall: Building for source isn't actually hard – I do it on my machine then must 'checkinstall' to create a .deb to install |
| [00:07:47] | roger55: | TMM1, emerge -av '<=x11-libs/qt-4' |
| [00:07:58] | roger55: | er no |
| [00:08:17] | Hiall: | jammyd: yea i just got stuck on the q3 as i have dependcies for packages.. can't remove them and make q3 work :| |
| [00:08:17] | roger55: | TMM1, emerge -av '<x11-libs/qt-4' rather – it's a bit late ;) |
| [00:08:28] | TMM1: | yep thats it, great thanks |
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| [00:09:46] | jammyd: | Hiall: Sorry, I don't quite follow? |
| [00:10:13] | Hiall: | jammd: i couldn't make qmake work basically :P |
| [00:10:43] | jammyd: | Why not? What were the errors? Will it not install, or does it install but not work? |
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| [00:11:06] | Hiall: | jammyd: it installs but then fails when i make -j 2 |
| [00:11:09] | Hiall: | installing myth |
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| [00:11:28] | jammyd: | with what error? Did you try without the -j2? Perhaps there is a dependencies issue in the make system? |
| [00:11:31] | Hiall: | so thought i'd just use apt-get although thats almost been as tricky lol |
| [00:11:44] | Hiall: | jammyd: yea i works perfectly doing make qmake |
| [00:11:58] | jammyd: | OK, so why do you need to use -j? |
| [00:12:08] | Hiall: | hmm was told to :P |
| [00:12:22] | jammyd: | Surely just doing it without is good enough? It's not like the compile will have taken more than the 2hrs you've been searching on google |
| [00:12:30] | jammyd: | Err, OK, ignore whoever said that |
| [00:12:45] | Hiall: | ah ok |
| [00:12:47] | jammyd: | If it doesn't work, don't bother with it. It'll make things faster usually, but if it fails then it's not worth bothering with |
| [00:13:02] | jammyd: | It just means "try and build two things at once" |
| [00:13:10] | Hiall: | ah i see |
| [00:13:38] | Hiall: | thanks for the information! |
| [00:13:49] | jammyd: | If you ever want to know what a flag does, check the man page (man make) and search for the option |
| [00:14:01] | jammyd: | It's worth learning *why* you're being told to do things, not just what you should do |
| [00:14:11] | Hiall: | hehe true true |
| [00:14:23] | Hiall: | just in abit of a rush going away tommorrow and need this working :| |
| [00:14:31] | jammyd: | Well good luck! |
| [00:15:08] | Hiall: | thankyou |
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| [00:33:41] | Spicerun: | Hi. I am trying to set up a mythtv box for the first time, and I've looked at a lot of documentation, and I know I'm really dense, but I just can't find any answers to a few questions. Let me ask some, and I apologize if they are really stupid. |
| [00:34:43] | jammyd: | Shoot |
| [00:36:44] | Spicerun: | 1. I have an Technisat HD5000 card (I believe it to be a Generation 3 ASTC card). I can successfully load the b2c2flexcop modules and have a /dev/dvb/adapter0 directory with contents. Even though there is no mention of trying to load firmware in the /var/log/messages file (yes, on gentoo linux), Do I need to use firmware from linuxtv.org on it? |
| [00:37:18] | Spicerun: | 2. What program do I need for a control program for the Technisat HD5000 card? |
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| [00:40:45] | jammyd: | Sorry, I've no experiience with that card myself |
| [00:40:46] | Spicerun: | 3. Unrelated to HDTV Tuner card, I am running an Nvidia GX-6200 card and am successfully running it in the HD720p mode that is fine for our HDTV, and I have the Desktop filling the screen. When I start up mythtv-setup, I get screens with Edit boxes, but no Text on it...I believe this to be font sizes or fonts not supported on my Xorg-7.1 system, and I would like to change the Theme on it. However, since I can't see |
| [00:40:47] | Spicerun: | any text, I can't select the Users->Settings. Is there any way to change a setting in a config file by hand to change the theme setting outside of the gui? |
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| [00:45:48] | Spicerun: | jammyd: ok, Thanks for the try. |
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| [00:50:14] | Dagmar: | Sp |
| [00:50:30] | Dagmar: | Spicerun: You'd be wrong there, actually. |
| [00:50:46] | Dagmar: | s/wrong/screwed/ |
| [00:50:57] | Dagmar: | You can hack the database manually. That's about it |
| [00:51:27] | Dagmar: | But using Xorg 7.1 is probably your _main_ problem |
| [00:51:30] | fangorious: | i setup the backend on one machine, and have it set to record a few things. I'm trying to setup the frontend on another machine, but I just get the database config screen and then it drops back to the shell when I click Finish |
| [00:51:54] | fangorious: | using /19 on ubuntu dapper from hamsta.net repository |
| [00:52:15] | Spicerun: | Dagmar: You think I should drop back to xorg 7.0? |
| [00:52:22] | Dagmar: | fangorious: Did you bother to tell your mysqld you'd like it to actually accept connections over the network |
| [00:52:24] | Spicerun: | or Xorg-6.8? |
| [00:53:06] | Spicerun: | Dagmar: I was afraid that would be the answer....guess I'd better learn mysql. |
| [00:53:16] | fangorious: | Dagmar: must have missed that part |
| [00:53:30] | Dagmar: | fangorious: Pretty much no one ships their mysql listening on the network by default |
| [00:53:38] | Dagmar: | Look for the flag --skip-networking and snuff it |
| [00:53:46] | Spicerun: | Dagmar: Thanks. |
| [00:54:02] | fangorious: | Dagmar: where am I looking for that? mysql startup? |
| [00:57:22] | Dagmar: | fangorious: Yes, in the init script that starts it up |
| [00:57:38] | Dagmar: | fangorious: Or in your system config utility if you're using something that babysits you |
| [00:58:38] | fangorious: | hm, I don't seem to have that in the startup script |
| [00:59:41] | fangorious: | i just did the mysql cli commands to grant access to mythtv user from my private subnet |
| [01:01:20] | fangorious: | should I have to restart anything? |
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| [01:05:28] | fangorious: | still get the db config screen trying to launch the frontend. I don't need to setup the mythtv user on the frontend machine too do I? |
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| [01:10:43] | sigger_: | can I beg and plead for some help with lirc? making progress, but not there yet. |
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| [01:24:04] | sigger_: | I boot with setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart none; modprobe lirc_serial; /usr/local/sbin/lircd. lircd starts and in my /var/log/daemon.log I get Jul 17 21:23:02 mythtv lircd-0.8.0-CVS[4713]: lircd(all) ready |
| [01:24:37] | sigger_: | I'm using a Packard Bell receiver. (I was using a creative receiver, but I gave up on that for now) |
| [01:27:01] | sigger_: | I run mode2 and I generally get nothing. (On occaision I'll get 2 huge numbers, but thats it) |
| [01:27:37] | Kelerion: | sounds like lircd.conf is messed up.. but am only guessing |
| [01:27:45] | Kelerion: | you run irw? |
| [01:28:30] | sigger_: | I don't think mode2 repeats raw output before it even gets to lirc (i.e. lircd.conf doesn't even get looked up). I could be wrong |
| [01:28:49] | sigger_: | irw however, does use lircd.conf. I haven't mucked around with lircd.conf |
| [01:29:16] | Kelerion: | try irrecord.. see if that gives you responses |
| [01:29:25] | sigger_: | k |
| [01:30:19] | Kelerion: | that'll write your lircd.conf if you don't have one already |
| [01:30:39] | Kelerion: | once you have lircd.conf... it's easy from there :) |
| [01:30:56] | sigger_: | It doesn't receive any data |
| [01:31:13] | sigger_: | "no data for 10 seconds, aborting" |
| [01:31:23] | Kelerion: | and you pressed keys? |
| [01:31:31] | sigger_: | hehe, yeah |
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| [01:31:37] | Kelerion: | sounds like your modules are wacked then |
| [01:31:45] | Kelerion: | or your using the wrong ones |
| [01:32:37] | sigger_: | lirc website says to use the two that are running. ps ax | grep lirc = lirc_serial 14336 0; lirc_dev 15108 1 lirc_serial |
| [01:33:19] | Kelerion: | not sure then |
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| [01:33:46] | sigger_: | is your lirc device lirc, lirc0, lirc1 or lircd ? |
| [01:33:47] | Goose-BA: | hello |
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| [01:34:18] | Goose-BA: | where does myth and xine read the .lircrc from |
| [01:34:21] | Goose-BA: | where's it located? |
| [01:34:21] | Kelerion: | mine is a usb device.. I symlinked it because it was using the wrong one |
| [01:34:54] | Kelerion: | Goose-BA your ~/.mythtv dir I think |
| [01:35:05] | Kelerion: | well myth does |
| [01:35:17] | Kelerion: | then symlink it to whereever xine needs it |
| [01:35:21] | sigger_: | same for xine I believe |
| [01:35:22] | Goose-BA: | i dont have one there |
| [01:35:25] | Goose-BA: | but the remote works |
| [01:35:32] | Goose-BA: | so im kind of confused |
| [01:35:39] | Kelerion: | probably a HID device then? |
| [01:35:46] | Goose-BA: | HID? |
| [01:35:47] | sigger_: | Kelerion: how'd you do that, cause I also have a serial to USB converter |
| [01:36:00] | Kelerion: | acts like a keyboard |
| [01:36:06] | Kelerion: | Human Interface Device |
| [01:36:36] | Kelerion: | I have a remote that came with my dvb card that works like that |
| [01:36:41] | sigger_: | Goose-BA: I vaguely recall that xine can have its own lirc settings, try starting xine and poke around menus? |
| [01:38:31] | Kelerion: | mines all in one lircrc.. just symlinked to where they are expected (as is most peoples) then the program param in the file is used to determine what to act upon |
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| [01:41:06] | Kelerion: | looks like xine uses: ~/.lircrc |
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| [01:41:19] | Kelerion: | could be wrong then |
| [01:41:20] | Kelerion: | though |
| [01:46:35] | gutano: | can anyone recommend a plugin/utility for exporting recordings from Myth? |
| [01:46:45] | Kelerion: | nuvexport |
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| [01:48:18] | xris: | that'd be about the only one. |
| [01:48:32] | xris: | and looks like maybe the 1080i export bug may be fixed. woot |
| [01:48:50] | xris: | now if only I could get this thing to encode properly for ipod |
| [01:51:21] | Dagmar: | hahaa |
| [01:51:30] | Dagmar: | Surely you are not talking about exporting 1080 to the ipod |
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| [02:14:13] | xris: | Dagmar: no |
| [02:14:16] | xris: | separate issues |
| [02:14:23] | Dagmar: | Okay. Thank god. heh |
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| [02:17:05] | Cardoe: | Anyone using a Microsoft remote? |
| [02:17:11] | Cardoe: | and wanna share the lircrc file? |
| [02:17:24] | Zider: | Dagmar: you're welcome |
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| [02:19:50] | mchou: | I'm burning up! |
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| [02:21:45] | djperegrine: | I am getting this error when I try to replay a file after upgrading to .19 |
| [02:21:49] | banyan: | Anyone know if there are plans to add output support to the mceusb2 Microsoft remote thing? |
| [02:21:55] | djperegrine: | the file for this recording can not be found |
| [02:22:00] | djperegrine: | I think its looking for a .mpg file |
| [02:22:09] | djperegrine: | but its a .nuv file |
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| [02:22:40] | djperegrine: | is there way to go to my recording folder and change all the .nuv files to .mpg files? |
| [02:23:05] | GreyFoxx: | what does the output of mythfrontend and or mythbackend say? If it can't find a file it will say the exact filename |
| [02:23:08] | djperegrine: | file /myth/blbalbla .mpg missing |
| [02:23:17] | djperegrine: | but I have nuv files there |
| [02:23:30] | GreyFoxx: | hmmmm |
| [02:23:45] | djperegrine: | I tried turning transcoding off |
| [02:23:54] | djperegrine: | however didn't fix them |
| [02:23:59] | djperegrine: | I really want my recordings working tho |
| [02:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | that wouldn't have had anything to do with it |
| [02:24:07] | GreyFoxx: | So all recordings are doing this ? |
| [02:24:10] | djperegrine: | yea |
| [02:24:12] | djperegrine: | well |
| [02:24:12] | GreyFoxx: | or just some? |
| [02:24:19] | djperegrine: | right when I save hte file its fine |
| [02:24:28] | djperegrine: | after a while tho I come back and this happens |
| [02:24:32] | djperegrine: | so its hard to test |
| [02:24:37] | GreyFoxx: | What do you mean when you save the file? |
| [02:24:46] | djperegrine: | er I mean record a show |
| [02:24:53] | djperegrine: | like if I do it manually while I watch tv |
| [02:25:08] | djperegrine: | and i watch it right after I do that it works fine, so I assumed it was working, but I came back and it didn't work |
| [02:25:15] | djperegrine: | that is why I think it has to dowith transcoding |
| [02:26:03] | GreyFoxx: | ahhh |
| [02:26:03] | GreyFoxx: | well if transcoding is happenning then they would be .nuv |
| [02:26:03] | djperegrine: | right , but its not picking up that it changed to .nub |
| [02:26:03] | djperegrine: | *.nub |
| [02:26:03] | djperegrine: | erer lol |
| [02:26:07] | djperegrine: | (trying to eat and type :P ) |
| [02:27:57] | djperegrine: | but yea, do you think my recordings are salvagable? |
| [02:29:16] | djperegrine: | also btw, I auto-updgraded from knoppmyth, I think that is where the real problem is |
| [02:30:02] | banyan: | Do you know what directory your recordings are in? |
| [02:30:06] | djperegrine: | yea |
| [02:30:29] | djperegrine: | myth v |
| [02:30:29] | banyan: | what's in there? nuvs or mpgs? |
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| [02:30:31] | djperegrine: | mpgs, like I said |
| [02:30:35] | djperegrine: | sorry |
| [02:30:37] | djperegrine: | .nubs |
| [02:30:39] | djperegrine: | nuvs |
| [02:31:03] | djperegrine: | oh fuck |
| [02:31:07] | banyan: | hmm, wonder why myth is looking for mpgs then. |
| [02:31:09] | djperegrine: | there isn't anything |
| [02:31:16] | djperegrine: | execpt a few .mpgs |
| [02:31:26] | banyan: | was it on a separate drive that isn't mounted perhaps? |
| [02:31:31] | djperegrine: | wtf |
| [02:31:34] | djperegrine: | nope |
| [02:31:49] | scales: | gentlemen, quick question. i want to reduce the size of my jfs partition, where i store all my recordings, i unmount it, stop all myth processes, run qtparted, and try and resize the disk. it says that it cannot resize the disk if it is in use. ideas? |
| [02:32:25] | djperegrine: | yea wtf |
| [02:32:27] | banyan: | there's probably another partition it's trying to muck with as well. |
| [02:32:41] | djperegrine: | well its knoppmyth, two partitions |
| [02:35:14] | banyan: | root and the tv partition? |
| [02:36:05] | djperegrine: | root and myth partation |
| [02:36:14] | djperegrine: | I played the files in mplayer they work |
| [02:36:51] | djperegrine: | oh snap |
| [02:36:51] | djperegrine: | wierd |
| [02:36:53] | djperegrine: | some work |
| [02:36:54] | djperegrine: | some don't |
| [02:37:12] | djperegrine: | ohhh |
| [02:37:16] | djperegrine: | the ones I saw on tv worked |
| [02:37:21] | djperegrine: | like the ones I watched myself |
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| [02:39:08] | djperegrine: | er |
| [02:39:09] | djperegrine: | maybe not |
| [02:39:11] | djperegrine: | I dunno when |
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| [02:52:25] | xris: | Cardoe: you mean the mce remote that goes with the lircrc file that I committed to svn a few weeks ago? |
| [02:53:03] | Kelerion: | am using a mce remote |
| [02:53:37] | Kelerion: | is toshiba rebranded thing I got with my laptop |
| [02:53:51] | Cardoe: | xris: configfiles? |
| [02:54:01] | xris: | Cardoe: yeah |
| [02:54:10] | Cardoe: | Got a fresh checkout here |
| [02:54:16] | Cardoe: | well... I only look at 0-19-fixes |
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| [02:55:32] | ** Kelerion goes to look through commits... to see if anything interesting in the last week has happened since my last svn checkout ** | |
| [02:56:01] | banyan: | are there plans to add irsend support to the mceusb2 lirc driver? |
| [02:56:35] | Cardoe: | talk to the lirc guys? |
| [02:58:15] | banyan: | They're 404. |
| [02:58:35] | banyan: | Logged in but not actually present. |
| [03:00:17] | Zider: | MIA |
| [03:00:19] | Zider: | :P |
| [03:00:37] | Dagmar: | That would be 408, not 404. |
| [03:00:38] | banyan: | awol |
| [03:00:54] | Dagmar: | ...or maybe 410, but it's never really used. |
| [03:01:37] | banyan: | well. I meant as in '404 page not found' |
| [03:01:46] | Dagmar: | But they're there. |
| [03:01:58] | Dagmar: | They're just not responding in the time-frame you expect. |
| [03:01:58] | Zider: | only the client :P |
| [03:04:11] | Dagmar: | 410 then |
| [03:06:04] | banyan: | If the timeout is approaching then double the timeout? |
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| [03:08:11] | Dagmar: | It could be a 402 problem. :) |
| [03:08:13] | Zider: | maybe it's a 402 ;) |
| [03:08:17] | Zider: | hehe |
| [03:08:18] | Dagmar: | heh |
| [03:08:25] | Zider: | great minds think alike |
| [03:09:42] | banyan: | Man~ana, man~ana, man~ana --- is good enough for me! |
| [03:10:24] | djperegrine: | hahaha |
| [03:10:46] | Zider: | manwhat? |
| [03:10:57] | Zider: | No manual entry for ana |
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| [03:11:51] | DrMitch: | so is there a way to use a different tv listings db (not zap2it) cause my listings aren't very accurate. i'd much rather use yahoo listings |
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| [03:12:25] | banyan: | mañana, mañana, mañana is good enough for me! |
| [03:12:44] | Zider: | wtf does that mean? |
| [03:13:44] | banyan: | It's from a Peggy Lee song. It means "tomorrow is good enough for me." |
| [03:14:08] | banyan: | Which is good because it might be a good day or so before somebody on the #lirc responds. heh |
| [03:14:29] | Zider: | ah |
| [03:14:59] | Cardoe: | might be quicker to write the code yourself |
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| [03:15:45] | banyan: | I would need to be led through the nose to have the first clue. |
| [03:16:08] | Cardoe: | the source |
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| [03:19:04] | banyan: | Don't I need a bunch of information about how the Phillips chip works in order to add the irsend code? |
| [03:23:02] | Cardoe: | when I get to the preview screen.. |
| [03:23:09] | Cardoe: | [mpeg @ 0xb69e2930]Parser not found for Codec Id: 94210 ! |
| [03:23:16] | Cardoe: | when it starts playing the small preview in the bottom right |
| [03:23:23] | Cardoe: | always |
| [03:23:26] | Cardoe: | no matter what show |
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| [03:25:08] | Spicerun: | ok guys...to follow up on my previous question.....The Technisat HD5000 hdtv card does not require firmware to load while using the b2c2flexcop drivers, and appears to work nicely with the dvb-tools. |
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| [03:31:29] | sigger_: | there a way to tell what device lirc is listening to? |
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| [03:39:45] | Captain_Murdoch: | find out the pid of lircd and run "lsof -p PID" |
| [03:47:07] | sigger_: | Captain_Murdoch: thx but a lot of output. don't know how to interpret |
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| [03:47:43] | banyan: | Hmm, is there a way to find out whether the Phillips chip in the mceusb2 works as a serial profile? |
| [03:48:07] | sigger_: | if you don't mind taking a look: http://pastebin.ca/90923 |
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| [03:58:24] | sloncho: | hi. trying to compile 0.19-fixes. the configure reports that dvd playback will not be build. I have all the prerequisites from the docs installed. what else I have to check |
| [03:59:59] | tank-man: | mythdvd plugin?? |
| [04:00:00] | sigger_: | dunno if /dev/lircd is its input or its output (i thought output) |
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| [04:01:24] | gnychis: | whats the difference between "record one showing" and "record all showings" |
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| [04:03:52] | tank-man: | one or all |
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| [04:03:59] | tank-man: | that is the difference |
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| [04:04:40] | sloncho: | tank-man – mythdvd was for me? |
| [04:04:43] | gnychis: | define "one" ... as in it will only record an episode once, or it will only record 1 episode |
| [04:04:55] | sloncho: | i found the problem, missing libdvdnav-devel package |
| [04:05:09] | sloncho: | it's not in the docs |
| [04:05:19] | sloncho: | i had to read the configure script itself in order to see |
| [04:07:38] | sloncho: | gnychis: "one showing" will record only the selected episode. the other one will record another episodes as well |
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| [04:09:11] | gnychis: | sloncho: how do i delete scheduled recordings? |
| [04:09:40] | sloncho: | gnychis: "do not record" |
| [04:10:18] | sloncho: | gnychis: i also found out that using mythweb is much better for scheduling :). the interface is very good |
| [04:10:33] | gnychis: | its very confusing |
| [04:10:42] | sloncho: | mythweb? |
| [04:11:01] | gnychis: | so is "record one showing of this title", mean that it will record only one fresh prince of bellair, or only one fresh prince of bellair with this episode name? |
| [04:11:04] | sloncho: | it's the best thing since the hot water :) IMHO |
| [04:11:05] | gnychis: | i havn't used mythweb yet |
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| [04:11:31] | sloncho: | mean that it will record only one fresh prince of bellair |
| [04:11:51] | gnychis: | i just want to delete everything and start over :P |
| [04:12:10] | gnychis: | but now theres like a million things scheduled |
| [04:12:12] | sloncho: | yes, go and select do not record, and it will remove it |
| [04:12:22] | sloncho: | go only on the first one |
| [04:12:55] | sloncho: | or ... it was – never record |
| [04:13:41] | gnychis: | i went to the first one, hit "do not record this program", and only 1 fresh prince of bellair went away |
| [04:13:57] | gnychis: | oh wait |
| [04:14:01] | gnychis: | they're still there, but not set to record |
| [04:14:03] | gnychis: | i see |
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| [04:14:50] | sloncho: | manage recordings/upcoming recordings/select the first one – u will have OK, Don't record, never record, Options, .... |
| [04:14:57] | sloncho: | select never record |
| [04:15:18] | gnychis: | ok, so... lets say i want to record the fresh prince of bellair, no matter what channel it is on, but i only want 1 instance of each episode... what do i use? |
| [04:15:45] | gnychis: | "record at any time on any channel" ? |
| [04:15:57] | sloncho: | yes |
| [04:16:00] | gnychis: | does this automatically take care of the episode duplicate problem? |
| [04:16:10] | sloncho: | and let me check how u set the descrition to differ |
| [04:16:21] | sloncho: | with mythweb is easier |
| [04:16:50] | gnychis: | i'm installing mythweb now |
| [04:16:55] | sloncho: | anyway |
| [04:17:09] | sloncho: | when u set a recording |
| [04:17:15] | sloncho: | go to scheduling options |
| [04:18:11] | sloncho: | there is match duplicates, which is enabled by default |
| [04:18:19] | sloncho: | this will take care not to duplicate |
| [04:18:44] | gnychis: | ok, thank you :) |
| [04:18:52] | sloncho: | tehe are 2 options, hot to match dups, and where to look for them i.e. in past recordings as well |
| [04:19:03] | sloncho: | hot=how |
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| [04:19:42] | sloncho: | np |
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| [04:21:18] | Zider: | "bellair"? funny spelling :D |
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| [04:22:18] | gnychis: | meh :) |
| [04:22:38] | EinsteinTaylor: | evening all |
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| [04:29:02] | EinsteinTaylor: | wow..dead channel tonight |
| [04:29:47] | Zider: | kind of yes |
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| [04:33:43] | banyan: | might it be semi-valid to expect the mceusb2 structure to be like the usb_serial structure? |
| [04:33:44] | banyan: | at all? |
| [04:34:02] | EinsteinTaylor: | structure in terms of what? |
| [04:34:14] | EinsteinTaylor: | in how it behaves? yes...because it's just the device driver lircd ties into |
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| [04:42:42] | banyan: | I ask because I want to add write capability to mceusb2. |
| [04:43:13] | Zider: | write to what? |
| [04:43:33] | banyan: | write to the infrared LED. |
| [04:43:48] | banyan: | in order to be able to change channels on satellite boxes and the like. |
| [04:45:25] | banyan: | Is there a good howto for finding ones way around the lirc drivers? |
| [04:45:36] | Zider: | oh, you mean sending :) |
| [04:45:41] | Zider: | or transmitting |
| [04:45:43] | banyan: | Exactly. |
| [04:45:43] | Zider: | rather |
| [04:45:48] | banyan: | irsend. |
| [04:46:29] | Zider: | I haven't even got receiving working yet ;) |
| [04:47:37] | Cardoe: | xris: still around? |
| [04:47:47] | xris: | yup |
| [04:47:48] | banyan: | what have you got the receiver attached to? |
| [04:48:07] | Cardoe: | xris: with your lircrc I get some funkiness |
| [04:48:16] | Cardoe: | the # key gives me the menu |
| [04:48:26] | Cardoe: | but guide does not |
| [04:48:33] | Cardoe: | guide doesn't do anything |
| [04:48:41] | Cardoe: | mute is also broken |
| [04:48:42] | xris: | Cardoe: did you read the key-remap instructions? |
| [04:48:42] | Zider: | one is the IR port on my laptop, on the mythbox I'm gonna use a homemade IR receiver made from lirc homepage desc.. |
| [04:48:51] | tjcarter: | hmm, can one sync certain data between MythTV and a ... ... <ahem>windozemobiledevice<cough>? |
| [04:49:04] | banyan: | My pvr350 stopped working so I bought the mceusb2 |
| [04:49:13] | xris: | tjcarter: nuvexport to export videos.. that's as good as you get. |
| [04:49:18] | Zider: | I don't have a tuner card at all yet |
| [04:49:23] | Zider: | not working at least |
| [04:49:29] | tjcarter: | xris: I was more interested in the phonebook actually =) |
| [04:49:31] | banyan: | I never tried the 350 again. |
| [04:49:57] | banyan: | I wanted to sync my calendar on my blackberry to kcalendar but that's a nonstarter. |
| [04:50:10] | banyan: | sorry, korganizer |
| [04:50:11] | tjcarter: | In terms of hardware, the HTC Wizard is quad-band GSM whoopass with Bluetooth 2.0 and 802.11g. |
| [04:50:48] | Zider: | there's bluetooth 2 now? |
| [04:50:53] | Cardoe: | xris: I just typed "Alt+R" in MythWeb? |
| [04:50:55] | Zider: | gotta look that up |
| [04:51:11] | xris: | tjcarter: what does mythtv have to do with a phonebook? |
| [04:51:24] | banyan: | there is. You can buy a usb -bluetooth2 dongle for about 50 |
| [04:51:25] | xris: | Cardoe: not sure. I did my remapping in mythweb, too. |
| [04:51:30] | tjcarter: | I have a phonebook installed by Knoppmyth |
| [04:51:40] | xris: | tjcarter: inside of mythtv? |
| [04:51:52] | Zider: | banyan: I hardly have any bluetooth units.. :) |
| [04:51:56] | tjcarter: | a plugin I'd be pretty sure |
| [04:52:43] | banyan: | I have a very handy but expensive RS-232 / RS-485 serial thing. |
| [04:53:35] | banyan: | I got a bluetooth keyboard and mouse. |
| [04:53:35] | Zider: | I have a bt1 usb thingie and a cell phone with bt1.. that's it.. :D |
| [04:53:42] | Zider: | oh, and a crappy headset |
| [04:53:44] | Cardoe: | xris: can you edit the cut points with the remote? |
| [04:53:51] | Zider: | which I'll throw away soon |
| [04:53:53] | tjcarter: | banyan: you actually need to convert RS-232 to RS-485? |
| [04:54:03] | Zider: | ..handsfree, not heasdet |
| [04:54:11] | banyan: | Sometimes I need 232 and sometimes I need 485 and sometimes I need 422. |
| [04:54:17] | tjcarter: | ooh, my Wizard can by a Myth remote! |
| [04:54:18] | tjcarter: | =D |
| [04:54:45] | Zider: | 485? 422? 404 syntax error :P |
| [04:55:28] | tjcarter: | Zider: RS-422 is basically RS-232 without batshit insane voltages. |
| [04:55:35] | tjcarter: | in a nutshell, anyway. |
| [04:55:42] | banyan: | 485 is a voltage protocol. |
| [04:55:47] | tjcarter: | Most things that speak 232 will talk to 422 |
| [04:56:01] | Zider: | all I know about rs-232 is that it's some sort of serial port standard thingie :P |
| [04:56:03] | banyan: | sorry, current loop... |
| [04:56:08] | banyan: | 422 is a voltage loop. |
| [04:56:21] | tjcarter: | (Apple is very famous (infamous) for using RS-422 in most of their machines going back to the original Macs and Apple IIgs) |
| [04:57:08] | banyan: | and 422 is generally 4 wire while 485 is generally 2 wire but that's not always the case. |
| [04:57:25] | Zider: | heh, just got an "interesting" error on wikipedia.. which shows one of the local IP's it seems.. :P |
| [04:57:32] | banyan: | you mean 'appletalk'? |
| [04:58:30] | banyan: | and 232 has crap for distance, but 422 and 485 can go for a looong distance. |
| [04:58:36] | tjcarter: | banyan: Appletalk used a synchronous RS-422 bus running at 320kbps or so |
| [04:58:57] | tjcarter: | or was it more than that? |
| [04:58:58] | banyan: | some kind of token passing 422? |
| [04:59:29] | banyan: | At the time it didn't have to be a lot faster than that. all the devices were that much slower. |
| [05:00:31] | banyan: | fancy dot matrix printers.... |
| [05:00:51] | banyan: | Oh! Have you ever heard the "Symphony No. 2 for Dot Matrix Printers?" |
| [05:00:56] | banyan: | It's quite the trip. |
| [05:03:38] | xris: | Cardoe: should be able to via the menu, yes. |
| [05:03:56] | xris: | it's annoying, though. couldn't find an easier way to do it, though.. since mythtv doesn't have separate modes for tv, etc. |
| [05:05:24] | tjcarter: | banyan: I'd love a recording of that. |
| [05:05:42] | banyan: | I'm gtk-gnutellaing for it now. |
| [05:06:58] | Zider: | banyan: 9 or 24 pin? :P |
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| [05:08:16] | banyan: | I think there was an assortment of different printers. |
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| [05:15:54] | xris: | ok. with latest svn mythtv and nuvexport, you can FINALLY encode 1080i content properly |
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| [05:16:55] | sigger_: | Argh! If anyone can help me get my lirc working I will make a donation to the charity of your choice!! |
| [05:19:13] | sigger_: | Call me a Best Buy shopper; a Logo programmer; a dumbass even. I don't see anything wrong and I just want it to work! |
| [05:22:37] | sloncho: | hey, i just configured a slave backend server. it does not offer it's tunet for some reason. i can use the tuner with kdetv, but system status from mythtv says tuner 2 is not available. tuner1 is on the master backend |
| [05:22:44] | sloncho: | all settings look ok |
| [05:23:13] | sloncho: | ahmm, and the slave backend tries to run filldatabase |
| [05:23:40] | sloncho: | which is bad if i read the docs ok. only the master should update the docs |
| [05:23:52] | sloncho: | not the docs, but the channels, sry |
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| [05:24:32] | sloncho: | and ... bty, do i need to create a new channel source for the second tuner (the one on the slave) or i can use the existing one from the master? |
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| [05:26:57] | mattsn: | mythtv-setup is unable to create /mnt/store, how do i create that myself? |
| [05:28:42] | sloncho: | you do not need to |
| [05:28:57] | sloncho: | set the path to existing directory |
| [05:29:07] | mattsn: | just realised that |
| [05:29:15] | mattsn: | also, |
| [05:29:27] | mattsn: | the input connections page is blank, and when i go to /dev/ |
| [05:29:41] | mattsn: | i dont see a v4l like the wiki describes |
| [05:30:17] | sloncho: | the way to go: first setup the card. 2. set the channel source. 3. go to input connections to link a tuner with channel source |
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| [05:30:52] | mattsn: | i'll try that thanks |
| [05:31:02] | sloncho: | np |
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| [07:43:00] | dorel__: | does anyone have a clue how to use irrecord to record a new remote's buttons? |
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| [08:02:24] | haj: | 2006-07–18 10:01:48.862 RingBuf(/disks/snaps/mythtv/1013_20060718093000.mpg): Waited 2 seconds for data to become available... |
| [08:02:33] | haj: | [mpeg2video @ 0xa767bd44]Warning MVs not available |
| [08:02:35] | haj: | would that be a problem? |
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| [08:02:42] | haj: | and what about this? |
| [08:02:42] | haj: | [mpeg @ 0xa7676360]Parser not found for Codec Id: 94210 ! |
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| [09:28:55] | emja_: | here's a trap for the inexperienced; PC boots and BIOS doesn't detect HDD occasionaly, wife can't start movie (which is sitting on non-existent data HDD) so goes to 'Settings/Video Manager' and says yes to *wipe all metadata*. argh |
| [09:29:59] | emja_: | probably worth having mysql regularly dump the database to a backup file, which is then rotated (logrotate) |
| [09:30:03] | emja_ is now known as emja | |
| [09:32:48] | dorel__: | oh i was wondering if it's possible to reduce the buffering time on watch tv? |
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| [10:31:48] | emja: | for some as yet unknown reason my mythtv machine is blanking the screen after 10 minutes. I've run "xset s off", and that the BIOS is not blanking the screen, nor is xscreensaver running |
| [10:32:09] | emja: | can anyone tell me if mythtv could be blanking the screen? |
| [10:32:14] | emja: | if so, how do I disable it? |
| [10:33:19] | qu0zl: | never seen mythtv do that. are you also running gnome or kde? Do they have seperate screensaver settings? |
| [10:33:27] | emja: | oh, and 'xset q' tells me DPMS is off |
| [10:33:36] | emja: | qu0zl: running icewm |
| [10:33:41] | emja: | faster, lighter |
| [10:34:42] | emja: | and icewm config doesn't have screensaver included |
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| [10:34:59] | emja: | my xorg.conf doesn't have DPMS settings |
| [10:36:17] | emja: | ahh, I think I found it |
| [10:36:39] | emja: | under "Monitor" in xorg.conf, which *did* include DPMS setting |
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| [12:01:33] | Hoxzer: | I find it ugly to eat fat banana |
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| [12:06:41] | gardengnome: | that was random. |
| [12:07:58] | Hoxzer: | :P yup little bit bored here |
| [12:10:08] | gardengnome: | watch some tv? |
| [12:11:11] | Hoxzer: | Tv is baad |
| [12:11:48] | Hoxzer: | really 90% of my mythtv use is like xvid movies |
| [12:11:59] | Hoxzer: | my parents whach tv with it |
| [12:12:47] | Dagmar: | So it's a good thing that parental control feature is in there, to control your parents' ability to see your videos. |
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| [12:14:56] | gardengnome: | would be cool if you could apply regexps to filter videos for the parental control feature |
| [12:15:03] | gardengnome: | *private* *xxx* etc |
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| [12:26:19] | ** Juski has just been flying a r/c helicopter in the park. fun on a stick! ** | |
| [12:27:18] | gardengnome: | did you crash it? |
| [12:27:28] | Juski: | nah |
| [12:27:42] | Juski: | just a little plastic one. fun all the same |
| [12:28:05] | gardengnome: | heh |
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| [12:36:20] | stuarta: | gardengnome: you been creating tickets? |
| [12:37:54] | stuarta: | and afternoon all |
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| [12:38:21] | gardengnome: | stuarta: yep, one. #2068 |
| [12:38:39] | gardengnome: | i figured i'd wait a little bit with thee segfault one |
| [12:38:42] | stuarta: | thought that might have been you :) |
| [12:38:56] | gardengnome: | M;) |
| [12:39:11] | gardengnome: | hansi.urpils is the name of my gardengnome ;) |
| [12:39:22] | stuarta: | i did wonder... |
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| [12:42:03] | stuarta: | oooo daniel's just merged the diseq changes... |
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| [13:04:15] | Dibblah: | stuarta: Wow. That was unexpected :) |
| [13:04:42] | Dibblah: | Now to get time to reintegrate my local patches :( |
| [13:05:04] | stuarta: | anything that should be pushed into svn or not? |
| [13:07:10] | Dibblah: | Well, only the out-of-tree-build stuff that noone else is interested in :) |
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| [13:08:56] | Dibblah: | EIT and diseqc both merged at the same time? Hmmmm... Too many problems solved at once. The users'll start rioting. |
| [13:09:22] | stuarta: | hehe. a few days for the dust to settle, and it'll be fine... |
| [13:09:42] | Dibblah: | I really should start testing. |
| [13:09:56] | Dibblah: | But it's too hot and the builders are noisy today. |
| [13:09:58] | scopeuk: | heh id take a guess mearging that much swtuff at once is jsut asking for truble |
| [13:10:41] | Dibblah: | It's fixing stuff (at least in the diseqc case) that's been long-term broken. Shouldn't cause many people actual issues. |
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| [13:11:13] | scopeuk: | unless it conflicts with somethign else/breaks something due to a change in the standard code base |
| [13:11:26] | scopeuk: | im a pesimist doesent it show |
| [13:11:32] | stuarta: | well it's all tested happily in the respective branches, so shouldn't be too bad... |
| [13:11:46] | ** stuarta is currently running it.. ** | |
| [13:12:07] | ** scopeuk is jsut glad to not be runnign svn atm ** | |
| [13:12:12] | Dibblah: | And stuarta is using diseqc switches in his dvb-t implementation...? |
| [13:12:22] | stuarta: | :) |
| [13:12:53] | scopeuk: | is this mearge by any chance progress towards .20? |
| [13:13:45] | stuarta: | however did you guess? |
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| [13:14:55] | Dibblah: | http://pastebin.ca/91281 |
| [13:14:58] | stuarta: | the diseq branch has a fairly small target userbase. |
| [13:15:02] | Dibblah: | Is such a comforting feeling. |
| [13:15:30] | Dibblah: | Finally have my backup platform automated and stable. |
| [13:15:58] | Dibblah: | Backup server is on for maybe 2 hours / night. |
| [13:16:08] | stuarta: | i really should get backups happening... |
| [13:16:19] | Dibblah: | Dirvish! Dirvish! Ra Ra Ra. |
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| [13:16:56] | scopeuk: | id jsut settle for ghosting the drive before making any major updates |
| [13:17:00] | stuarta: | writing the release notes could be a bitch |
| [13:17:07] | scopeuk: | by major i mean stuff i couldent fix with a lvie cd and nano |
| [13:17:16] | Dibblah: | 9 day rolling backup for me with 4 tuners (2 average) is 1.6x storage. |
| [13:17:31] | stuarta: | i'm just copying /home to an external disk occasionally |
| [13:17:42] | Dibblah: | That's backing up everything. Including recordings. |
| [13:17:51] | Dibblah: | Which doesn't really make too much sense. |
| [13:18:00] | stuarta: | if you can why not. |
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| [13:18:30] | scopeuk: | just nfs mount the backup server and use it to store your recordings ;-) |
| [13:18:37] | scopeuk: | any way im off l8r guys |
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| [13:18:43] | Dibblah: | But until I / someone gets time to look at recording groups (I could live very easily with losing 20 'How It's Made', but not 3 coronation streets) |
| [13:19:14] | Dibblah: | And by live, I'm being quite literal here. |
| [13:24:52] | stuarta: | she who must be obeyed *must* have coronation street? |
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| [13:28:12] | UNicorn: | Hi all. I have a general question about mythtv channel scanning. |
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| [13:28:41] | UNicorn: | When mythtv-setup scans the channels it misses quite a few and some are not tuned correctly |
| [13:29:04] | UNicorn: | what frequency table does mythtv use for scanning? why not do a full frequency scan |
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| [13:31:13] | stuarta: | it does do a full frequency scan, when using full scan. |
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| [13:43:12] | sapbeast: | i swear the data corruption monkey just wont leave me alone |
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| [13:45:10] | dorel__: | can i change the default key bindings? like on mythweb im supposed to use 'q' and 'z' for toggling between links but there's no Q or Z on the pvr 150 remote (its all used for numbers) |
| [13:45:14] | stuarta: | sapbeast: what have you been doing to it? torture? |
| [13:46:22] | sapbeast: | im trying to figure out the most painful method, but yes |
| [13:46:53] | stuarta: | i suspect it's winning. |
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| [13:48:00] | sapbeast: | unfortuantely |
| [13:48:08] | sapbeast: | first it was my mythbox, but i solved that issue |
| [13:48:13] | sapbeast: | now its this second computer |
| [13:48:21] | Dibblah: | Gremlins. |
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| [13:49:52] | Dibblah: | stuarta: Indeed. And Neighbors. |
| [13:50:07] | Dibblah: | Coronation street I mind less :) |
| [13:50:21] | Dibblah: | Heck, even the Aussies don't watch Neighbors. |
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| [13:50:51] | Dibblah: | Does svn up -q still report conflicts? |
| [13:51:05] | Dibblah: | ls |
| [13:51:06] | stuarta: | indeed, still surprised anyone watches neighbours |
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| [13:51:14] | Dibblah: | Arf. Wrong window. |
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| [13:53:31] | stuarta: | gardengnome: you're in luck. it's been fixed already |
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| [13:56:29] | Uniorn__: | stuarta, do you have to set it up for full frequency scan or is default? |
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| [13:57:02] | Hiall: | Don't suppose anyone knows how i can set my locale settings? |
| [13:57:04] | Hiall: | http://pastebin.ca/91304 |
| [13:57:22] | stuarta: | Uniorn__: if you chose full scan that's what it'll do. what version btw? |
| [13:58:00] | Dibblah: | Huh? You mean everyone doesn't run SVN? |
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| [13:58:21] | Uniorn__: | stuarta, gentoo mythtv 0.19_p10505 |
| [13:58:29] | stuarta: | Hiall: you should have the locales package install |
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| [13:59:01] | Dibblah: | Must... Resist... Urge... To... Bash... Gentoo. |
| [13:59:18] | stuarta: | Uniorn__: scanning in 0.19 wasn't perfect. we've fixed a lot of bugs in scanning in head |
| [13:59:37] | Hiall: | stuarta: its called locales? |
| [13:59:46] | stuarta: | tis on my debian box |
| [13:59:59] | Uniorn__: | stuarta, in mythtv-setup I do Full scan (or so the label says). But it does not find all channels, and most of the ones it find are not tuned correctly |
| [14:00:06] | Hiall: | cheers downloading :P |
| [14:00:28] | Uniorn__: | stuarta, the version is supposedto be from mythtv-fixes branch |
| [14:00:31] | Dibblah: | Uniorn__: The channel table it uses is configured in mythtv-setup. |
| [14:00:33] | stuarta: | Uniorn__: yeah, it would fail with "no tables" often and do other weird things... |
| [14:01:10] | Dibblah: | And a true "full scan" would take literally hours. |
| [14:01:54] | stuarta: | who remembers tuning in one of those push button tv's by hand? |
| [14:02:04] | Hiall: | does myth just not like british keyboards? |
| [14:02:14] | Uniorn__: | Dibblah, aggree. where is the channel table configured? do you choose frequencies like europe-west, us-cable ...? |
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| [14:02:26] | Dibblah: | Yeah, exactly. |
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| [14:02:48] | stuarta: | Hiall: sounds like you haven't even done basic setup on your box, it's the os that does the keyboard not myth |
| [14:02:57] | Dibblah: | If you're following any of the installation guides, it makes it much easier. |
| [14:03:05] | Hiall: | LANGUAGE = "en_GB:en_US:en_GB:en", |
| [14:03:15] | Hiall: | is my language and apparently its wrong.. |
| [14:03:21] | Uniorn__: | Dibblah, that is my second question. The table are in video soruces. Am i required to select a video source and configure xmltv? |
| [14:03:28] | stuarta: | did you setup the keyboard mapping? |
| [14:04:14] | stuarta: | more to the point, how did you manage to install a debian box *without* locales & keyboard setup? |
| [14:04:24] | Hiall: | ssh :P |
| [14:04:32] | Uniorn__: | Dibblah, I mean I don't think there us a grabber for my country |
| [14:04:32] | Hiall: | am on my mac |
| [14:04:39] | stuarta: | it's still an essential part of the install |
| [14:04:50] | Dibblah: | Uniorn__: Your country being? |
| [14:04:54] | Hiall: | well i have apache extra running fine :| |
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| [14:05:18] | Hiall: | stuarta, should i google keyboard mapping? |
| [14:06:16] | Uniorn__: | Dibblah, Cyprus |
| [14:06:30] | qu0zl: | Hiall, edit your XFree86.conf and check for Option "XkbLayout" "us" |
| [14:06:35] | qu0zl: | that should be uk |
| [14:06:46] | qu0zl: | there's probably other places you need to set it though |
| [14:06:51] | qu0zl: | that should fix it for X |
| [14:07:05] | Hiall: | qu0zl, thankyou |
| [14:07:12] | qu0zl: | heh, wait until you see if it works ;) |
| [14:07:26] | Hiall: | hehe still helping :P |
| [14:07:46] | Uniorn__: | Dibblah, my cable tv provider packages several channels. I suppose tv grabbers are set up for specific cable procders / channels |
| [14:08:28] | Dibblah: | No, mostly for countries. |
| [14:08:47] | Uniorn__: | Dibblah, So my question is will I have to setup a video source and an XMLTV grabber, to set the frequncy table? |
| [14:08:58] | Dibblah: | Well, yes. |
| [14:09:07] | Dibblah: | Or no if you use current SVN. |
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| [14:09:28] | stuarta: | Uniorn__: suggest you try current svn |
| [14:09:41] | Uniorn__: | Dibblah, I suppose when using xmltv, it will scan and try to match the frequencies it finds the the xml ones, in order to populate names ... |
| [14:09:45] | Dibblah: | Come on in! The water's lovely. |
| [14:10:02] | Dibblah: | Nope. |
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| [14:10:16] | Uniorn__: | stuarta, what about -fixes ? |
| [14:10:17] | stuarta: | the bleeding edge isn't even very sharp atm. |
| [14:10:38] | stuarta: | Uniorn__: no, all goodness has gone into head. only fixes went into -fixes |
| [14:11:38] | Uniorn__: | I suppose .20 is a long way? |
| [14:11:42] | Hiall: | hmm can't even find it lol :P |
| [14:11:52] | stuarta: | Uniorn__: err no |
| [14:12:20] | Uniorn__: | stuarta, release date? |
| [14:12:37] | qu0zl: | Hiall, do you have a Section "InputDevice" part in your /etc/XF86Config-4 |
| [14:12:40] | stuarta: | there isn't one, but all the major resyncs happened < 3hrs ago |
| [14:13:24] | Uniorn__: | stuarta, hmm know if there is an ebuild for that, or do I have to make one? |
| [14:13:38] | Hiall: | qu0zl, i don't think xserver is actually even installed :P |
| [14:13:45] | Hiall: | that *might* be why :p |
| [14:13:48] | stuarta: | no ebuild for head that i know of.... |
| [14:13:59] | qu0zl: | but you're running mythfrontend i thought? |
| [14:14:35] | Hiall: | qu0zl, i was planning on just sending it straight to ma tv |
| [14:14:46] | Uniorn__: | I just want to clear this frequency table issue. So I need to define a video source in order to select a freq table? |
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| [14:15:12] | qu0zl: | Hiall, try "dpkg-reconfigure locale" to reconfigure your locale stuff |
| [14:15:33] | qu0zl: | and you still will need X to run mythtv tv. the mythtvfrontend is an X client. it uses X for all it's display |
| [14:16:28] | Hiall: | ah ok |
| [14:16:29] | Hiall: | cheers |
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| [14:30:17] | harryk: | greetings all |
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| [14:31:26] | harryk: | I have a question about storage of recorded shows, specifically how does mythtvbackend know that I have transcoded a mpg file to a new mpg file, with the commercials cut out, so that when playing the show, it references the smaller of the two files? |
| [14:31:49] | stuarta: | the old file gets replaced |
| [14:31:59] | harryk: | well, it didn't .. thats the thing |
| [14:32:04] | harryk: | I've got both files |
| [14:32:21] | stuarta: | does one end in .tmp? |
| [14:32:31] | harryk: | now perhaps its because I didn't use the transcode option in the job... |
| [14:32:37] | harryk: | no, they are both mpg |
| [14:33:28] | harryk: | I manually ran mythcommflag --getcutlist and then manually ran mythtranscode --honorcutlist -c <chan> -s <starttime> |
| [14:33:44] | stuarta: | and gave it a new name? |
| [14:33:52] | harryk: | indeed |
| [14:34:15] | stuarta: | ah. right myth will use the original file, but because you have cutpoints marked for that show |
| [14:34:27] | stuarta: | it will skip over the sections that have been 'cut' |
| [14:34:34] | harryk: | understood |
| [14:34:47] | harryk: | but I'd rather get rid of the larger mpg and use the smaller |
| [14:35:10] | stuarta: | if you do the transcode as a job, then after trancoding to <file>.mpg.tmp it gets moved over the original |
| [14:35:10] | harryk: | at a savings of 1.8 gig, i need the space |
| [14:35:21] | harryk: | and I thought that.. |
| [14:35:27] | gardengnome: | stuarta: yeah, i saw that :) |
| [14:35:28] | stuarta: | and the relevant dots are joined. |
| [14:35:32] | harryk: | transcoding as a job seems to fail everytime |
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| [14:37:53] | stuarta: | harryk: you'll need to dig for some logs to determine why it fails... |
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| [14:41:42] | harryk: | brb |
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| [14:50:34] | drear: | a quick question: is there support for the TwinHanDTV Cab-CI? |
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| [14:57:53] | EinsteinTaylor: | morning everyone |
| [14:58:26] | stuarta: | afternoon |
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| [15:05:29] | EinsteinTaylor: | for the amount of people in this channel i'm always amazed at how dead it is |
| [15:06:08] | stuarta: | it has it's moments. clearly nobody has anything useless to discuss for a change |
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| [15:07:17] | gardengnome: | politics? beirdo's porn consumption? |
| [15:08:00] | stuarta: | what colour his trout is? |
| [15:08:25] | stuarta: | where is he? must be getting a job or something silly.... |
| [15:08:36] | EinsteinTaylor: | lol...oh so disturbing |
| [15:08:42] | gardengnome: | heh |
| [15:08:58] | ** gardengnome waits for mythtv to finish compiling ** | |
| [15:09:02] | stuarta: | there isn't even anybody deserving of a trouting :( |
| [15:09:13] | gardengnome: | still takes ages even with ccache |
| [15:09:16] | gardengnome: | i need a faster box |
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| [15:10:09] | stuarta: | 2.5mins is my best so far. |
| [15:10:23] | gardengnome: | heh |
| [15:10:30] | gardengnome: | even make install takes ages |
| [15:10:58] | gardengnome: | "The DBox2 recorder is not actively maintained and none of the core developers use it, so any help you can provide is appreciated. |
| [15:11:18] | gardengnome: | " kinda sounds like an invition to bug danielk about everything that annoys me about the dbox2 recorder |
| [15:11:29] | gardengnome: | invitation* that is |
| [15:11:36] | stuarta: | or an invitation to fix it :) |
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| [15:12:01] | gardengnome: | heh :) |
| [15:12:50] | harryk: | back |
| [15:13:03] | harryk: | front back, and side to side |
| [15:13:36] | ** stuarta does the hokey pokey dance ** | |
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| [15:13:57] | harryk: | beh.. so i scanned the mythbackend.log file, what I find is just a failure message |
| [15:14:00] | harryk: | for transcode |
| [15:14:06] | ** gardengnome gives out red silly hats to everyone ** | |
| [15:14:08] | harryk: | should I be looking for something else specifically |
| [15:14:15] | ** stuarta eats his ** | |
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| [15:14:26] | ** harryk wears hat and then breakdances ** | |
| [15:14:38] | stuarta: | anything useful in the failure message? |
| [15:14:51] | ben__: | i wonder if anyone can help me? im trying to find away of updating my tv guide using dvb and not xmltv? |
| [15:15:02] | ben__: | im in the uk |
| [15:15:08] | harryk: | stuarta, not really, one sec I'll post |
| [15:15:26] | stuarta: | pastebin please |
| [15:16:50] | stuarta: | ben__: configure it to use the eitonly datasource. |
| [15:17:10] | ben__: | yes where do i do that? ive tried to find it in the options but cant seem to |
| [15:17:22] | stuarta: | in mythtv-setup |
| [15:17:33] | ben__: | ok ill go look again |
| [15:17:33] | ben__: | ty |
| [15:19:01] | harryk: | 2006-07–06 03:05:12.679 transcode: Transcode Errored: The Boondocks "A Huey Freeman Christmas" |
| [15:19:27] | harryk: | from /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log |
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| [15:19:37] | harryk: | this is just a sample |
| [15:20:10] | ben__: | ive looked through all the tabs in mythtv-setup and cant see eit any where? am i just being blind? do you knw which tab it is on? |
| [15:20:35] | stuarta: | in the datasources where you select which grabber you want |
| [15:21:21] | harryk: | stuarta, I thought about writing a script/job file that does the work, and then just deletes and renames the two files... but then I think the cutpoints would interefer with the new file, skipping at the previously correct points, but now inaccurate due to the smaller edited file |
| [15:21:52] | harryk: | alternatively, I think fixing the transcoding issue would be the correct path |
| [15:22:09] | harryk: | brb |
| [15:22:15] | stuarta: | if you have a specific situation where running it manually works, and running from the jobqueue fails we'll need to dig further and try to fix it |
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| [15:22:38] | ben__: | i can choose the xmltv grabber to use there but thats not what i want to do... that seems to be the only option i have, i can select name and whch country im in so xmltv knows which country to use but i cant select dont use xmltv? |
| [15:23:00] | stuarta: | ben__: what version are you running? |
| [15:23:18] | gardengnome: | ben__: just create a videosource, you don't have to actually run any grabber. |
| [15:23:41] | gardengnome: | the 'eit only' dummy video source is only there in svn, iirc |
| [15:23:57] | stuarta: | is it not in 0.19? thought it was |
| [15:24:45] | ben__: | ah ha :) |
| [15:24:53] | EinsteinTaylor: | are there any alternatives in the US to zap2it? |
| [15:24:58] | EinsteinTaylor: | or maybe i should say better alternatives |
| [15:25:04] | ben__: | thats why i cant see it then |
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| [15:26:51] | ben__: | so is there any way i can not have to use xmltv? |
| [15:27:14] | gardengnome: | stuarta: i don't think so, at least. but you can never be sure :) |
| [15:27:30] | Juski: | using EIT only _is_ in 0.19 |
| [15:27:33] | gardengnome: | EinsteinTaylor: are you... complaining about zap2it?! spoiled brat! |
| [15:27:36] | gardengnome: | Juski: ah, ok |
| [15:27:39] | ** gardengnome stfus then ** | |
| [15:27:40] | Juski: | :-) |
| [15:27:46] | stuarta: | not without upgrading to 0.19+ |
| [15:27:56] | stuarta: | knew juski was here for a reason.... |
| [15:28:04] | Juski: | I have my uses :-P |
| [15:28:26] | stuarta: | we need someone to remember what's in the released versino :) |
| [15:28:27] | ** gardengnome writes that down for future references ** | |
| [15:28:46] | ben__: | ok so i should have it? |
| [15:29:16] | Juski: | I think we sort of formed an r/c model club at lunchtime here at work. should be a more interesting diversion than hanging round at our desks :-) |
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| [15:29:46] | ben__: | hmm apparently i have 0.18 |
| [15:29:56] | gardengnome: | ha-ha! </nelson> |
| [15:30:04] | Juski: | I thought EIT was in 0.18 too |
| [15:30:07] | tstm: | aa |
| [15:30:08] | gardengnome: | ubuntu dapper? |
| [15:30:11] | ben__: | indeed |
| [15:30:11] | tstm: | Oops. |
| [15:30:13] | tstm: | Sorry. =) |
| [15:30:27] | stuarta: | ha-ha </sherlock holmes> |
| [15:30:39] | dorel__: | has anyone ever tried to record a new remote? |
| [15:31:00] | dorel__: | i tried with both mode2 and irrecord which come with lirc but none of them recognize my remote. |
| [15:31:05] | Juski: | dorel__: yes, many times, with varying success depending on a) the remote and b) the version of lirc |
| [15:31:11] | EinsteinTaylor: | not complaining...i'm just alwyas trying new things |
| [15:31:15] | dorel__: | i see. |
| [15:31:20] | dorel__: | give me a sec, ill tell you which version of lirc i have. |
| [15:31:35] | Juski: | I'm damned if I can remember which version of lirc gave me hassle |
| [15:32:00] | gardengnome: | |
| [15:32:04] | gardengnome: | good luck |
| [15:32:11] | gardengnome: | and get a DB backup. i mean it. |
| [15:32:21] | EinsteinTaylor: | i take it zap2it is better than the alternatives? |
| [15:32:31] | gardengnome: | Juski: about... all of them? ;) |
| [15:32:41] | ben__: | ok lol |
| [15:32:53] | Juski: | I just upgraded to 0.8.something & it worked fine after that.. what I found most surprising was that it was failing to record an RC5 remote :-/ |
| [15:32:54] | ben__: | so im adding that to my source.list? |
| [15:32:59] | ben__: | newb here :( |
| [15:33:14] | gardengnome: | ben__: yeah i think so, the channel faq might have more information on that subject |
| [15:33:21] | dorel__: | Juski: ok. what im running is: lircd 0.8.1-CVS-pvr150 |
| [15:33:22] | Juski: | why are noobs always so bloody miserable? |
| [15:33:27] | ben__: | im not miserable :P |
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| [15:33:29] | ben__: | im just ashamed lol |
| [15:33:39] | Juski: | so you fscking should be. noob |
| [15:33:41] | Juski: | :-P |
| [15:33:42] | ben__: | lol |
| [15:34:14] | ben__: | right ill add that to my sources update and come back if it breaks :) |
| [15:34:26] | stuarta: | see you soon :-P |
| [15:34:30] | ben__: | lol |
| [15:34:33] | ben__: | tyvm! |
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| [15:34:58] | dorel__: | Juski: anyway. so any idea what could be wrong with it recording? |
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| [15:35:48] | ben__: | :) |
| [15:35:54] | ben__: | apparently i didnt copy that link properly |
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| [15:36:02] | ben__: | could someone paste it again please |
| [15:36:03] | ben__: | :( |
| [15:36:35] | Juski: | erm.. scroll up, ben__ ? |
| [15:36:45] | ben__: | id closed the chat |
| [15:36:55] | stuarta: | !trout ben__ |
| [15:36:55] | ** MythLogBot slaps ben__ with a trout on behalf of stuarta... ** | |
| [15:36:55] | Juski: | |
| [15:36:58] | Juski: | http://hamsta.net/mythtv/files/dapper ./', |
| [15:37:02] | ben__: | tyvm :) |
| [15:37:11] | Juski: | I love right click pasting |
| [15:37:32] | stuarta: | i hate right click pasting. middle button all the way |
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| [15:37:48] | EinsteinTaylor: | <shift> ins FTW |
| [15:39:13] | EinsteinTaylor: | has anybody used the gentoo 0.19-p10281 ebuild yet? |
| [15:39:29] | ** Juski has been tempted ** | |
| [15:39:38] | EinsteinTaylor: | i had to mask it do to some werid QT things |
| [15:40:01] | Juski: | like not emerge qt4 ? |
| [15:40:37] | EinsteinTaylor: | i dont really remember the exact problem but i was able to get 0.19-p9163 to build fine |
| [15:40:55] | EinsteinTaylor: | was wondering if it was now safe to unmask and upgrade |
| [15:41:21] | Juski: | I can't remember what all the stuff emerge -pv reports is for, so until I find out again I won't be upgrading |
| [15:41:53] | EinsteinTaylor: | [ebuild U ] media-tv/mythtv-0.19_p10505 [0.19_p9163-r1] USE="alsa dvb dvd ieee1394 lirc mmx opengl vorbis xvmc -backendonly -dbox2 -debug -frontendonly -jack -joystick -lcd" VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia -i810 -via" 35 kB |
| [15:41:58] | EinsteinTaylor: | thats the -pv for it |
| [15:42:20] | Juski: | yeh I mean I can't remember what all that stuff means |
| [15:42:42] | EinsteinTaylor: | it doesnt look like it's going to build any new qt things or whatever... |
| [15:42:49] | Juski: | I've got a lot of other stuff on so I needn't worry about it |
| [15:42:54] | EinsteinTaylor: | do u know if it offeres any new features? |
| [15:43:16] | Juski: | just 0.19-fixes afaik, so no new features iirc |
| [15:43:51] | EinsteinTaylor: | then i dont think i'll screw with it..i'll just wait till a major version change |
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| [15:44:44] | ** ben__ loves you all ** | |
| [15:45:01] | ** ben__ thinks maybe thats a bit premature ** | |
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| [15:46:08] | stuarta: | you can see people for that.... |
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| [15:46:45] | RandomDude15: | help. |
| [15:46:50] | RandomDude15: | all of a sudden i cant get in live tv |
| [15:46:51] | RandomDude15: | on myth |
| [15:47:03] | RandomDude15: | It was working last night when I went to bed at 1:30am... |
| [15:47:09] | RandomDude15: | now its almost 12pm the same day |
| [15:47:14] | RandomDude15: | i dont know what could have happened |
| [15:47:24] | RandomDude15: | my card is a PVR 150 MCE Kit |
| [15:47:50] | Anduin: | RandomDude15: Look at your logs |
| [15:47:53] | Juski: | you can take pills for that too. check your email |
| [15:48:08] | RandomDude15: | good idea Anduin. I'll check. |
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| [15:50:32] | EinsteinTaylor: | RandomDude15: happened to me too last night..i just rebooted and life was back to good |
| [15:50:34] | EinsteinTaylor: | same card as well |
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| [15:50:54] | ben__: | hmm something went wrong there :) |
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| [15:51:38] | Kobaz: | how do you disable time shifting to speed up mythtv a bit, i have an 800mhz and watching tv is really choppy |
| [15:52:35] | EinsteinTaylor: | doesnt that defeat half the purpose of using myth? |
| [15:52:36] | Anduin: | Kobaz: You cannot disable it. |
| [15:52:37] | RandomDude15: | where do I go to check the logs anyways? |
| [15:52:47] | EinsteinTaylor: | /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log is where mine is |
| [15:52:48] | Anduin: | RandomDude15: It depends. |
| [15:53:13] | Kobaz: | EinsteinTaylor: i basically want to use it for recording and all that, and i figured using mythtv would make it nice and easy |
| [15:53:23] | RandomDude15: | yeah same here Einstein |
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| [15:54:22] | harryk: | stuarta, i agree that i need to dig more, I'm just not sure on what I'm going to be looking for |
| [15:54:45] | harryk: | the errors are obvious, and the documentation (atleast specific to transcoding and the mtd) are weak |
| [15:54:54] | harryk: | err.. the error's aren't obvious |
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| [15:55:16] | RandomDude15: | http://pastebin.ca/91383 – my mythbackend.log |
| [15:55:20] | harryk: | I certainly want to fix the issue, and I'd like to help with the documentation once we get it working |
| [15:55:27] | Juski: | Kobaz: if you want your live tv to be live, use something lame like oh I dunno.. tvtime |
| [15:55:50] | Juski: | or – stop wasting time channel surfing :-) |
| [15:56:01] | Anduin: | RandomDude15: useless, that is a failed start. |
| [15:56:03] | harryk: | Kobaz, what encoder card are you using? |
| [15:56:13] | RandomDude15: | yeah I know |
| [15:56:15] | Kobaz: | Juski: heh, yeah i used tvtime to test to see if the card was working |
| [15:56:16] | harryk: | because I was running live tv on a p3 450 and it was fine |
| [15:56:24] | harryk: | also, what type of harddrive |
| [15:56:24] | Kobaz: | harryk: a really really old wintv |
| [15:56:34] | Kobaz: | harddrive is kinda crappy and slow, ata-33 |
| [15:56:38] | harryk: | so it's probably trying to do software encoding |
| [15:56:40] | Kobaz: | but i'm gonna throw in an ata-100 80gig |
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| [15:56:56] | Kobaz: | i just threw togehter a box with parts i had to see if i could get the software going |
| [15:57:03] | Kobaz: | i'll probably upgrade a bunch of stuff |
| [15:57:08] | harryk: | Kobaz, that's probably the issue, is that the processor is spending time encoding, and little time displaying |
| [15:57:13] | Kobaz: | yeah |
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| [15:57:24] | harryk: | you can only squeeze so much lemonade from lemmons ;) |
| [15:57:28] | Kobaz: | hah |
| [15:57:44] | harryk: | but as a case point |
| [15:58:29] | harryk: | running a p3 450, with 512mb ram, and a decent little scsi harddrive, and using a hardware tv turner (pvr-500) i was able to watch live tv with little problems, the guide was my biggest slow down, and then adjusting the display for the guide fixed that |
| [15:58:52] | Kobaz: | yeah i probably need a hardware encoder for this box to be of use for mythtv |
| [15:58:56] | harryk: | I was actually quite happy with it... |
| [15:59:01] | ben__: | how well does myth run on an epia board like the sp13000? |
| [15:59:02] | harryk: | yea, definately |
| [15:59:02] | Juski: | yup. or a dvb tuner |
| [15:59:07] | harryk: | yea |
| [15:59:13] | Kobaz: | hmm |
| [15:59:16] | Juski: | ben__: myth runs well on a 1ghz epia just fine |
| [15:59:24] | ben__: | cool |
| [15:59:31] | Kobaz: | harryk: are you also on the #debian channel too sometimes? |
| [15:59:33] | Juski: | don't expect amazing transcoding & commflagging performance though |
| [15:59:38] | Kobaz: | i know i recognize your name from somewhere |
| [15:59:41] | ben__: | thats my long term plan |
| [15:59:56] | ben__: | once i work out how to use this sofware lol |
| [15:59:58] | haj: | Kobaz: hardware encoder is definately the nicest way to record stuff.. :) |
| [16:00:10] | Kobaz: | yeah, i would bet |
| [16:00:20] | ** haj has a PVR-500.. works fine :) ** | |
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| [16:00:47] | Kobaz: | i got this tv card like 5 years ago, i figured i would try out myth before buying a fancy one |
| [16:01:01] | harryk: | Kobaz, nope... but if you're the same kobaz i'm thinking of, we've spent times harrasing each other back over in #linuxwarez ;) |
| [16:01:19] | Juski: | you could try cranking the recording resolution down a bit.. settings > tv > recording profiles |
| [16:01:27] | Kobaz: | oooooh |
| [16:01:31] | haj: | what is it.. a bt878 or something? :) |
| [16:01:33] | Kobaz: | harryk: yeah yeap |
| [16:01:50] | Kobaz: | Juski: k |
| [16:01:55] | ** harryk give's Kobaz a big burly hug ... ;) ** | |
| [16:01:58] | Kobaz: | Juski: is that in the backend or frontend |
| [16:01:59] | Juski: | the default is 480x480... under that will prolly look like crap (even more so) but it's a proof of concept anyway right? |
| [16:02:01] | Kobaz: | harryk: hehe, yay |
| [16:02:10] | Juski: | Kobaz: in mythfrontend |
| [16:02:15] | Kobaz: | k |
| [16:02:22] | harryk: | heh... haven't really been on irc in some time ... sorta had life happen to me.. got married, recently had a kid |
| [16:02:41] | harryk: | new job, moved to wisconsin (don't do it !! anyone!!) |
| [16:02:43] | harryk: | etc.. |
| [16:02:46] | Kobaz: | ah |
| [16:02:52] | Kobaz: | yeah i've been to wiconsin, it's very flat |
| [16:02:59] | harryk: | as is the beer |
| [16:03:14] | Kobaz: | although devils lake is nice |
| [16:03:14] | harryk: | but the women are very round |
| [16:03:18] | harryk: | yea! |
| [16:03:23] | Kobaz: | good climbing around there |
| [16:03:23] | harryk: | i went hiking up there actually |
| [16:03:27] | harryk: | agreed |
| [16:03:41] | Kobaz: | that was the sole purpose of the trip, to do climbing with some peeps in devils lake |
| [16:03:48] | harryk: | nice ... nice lake also |
| [16:03:52] | harryk: | a little cold |
| [16:03:59] | harryk: | but very scenic |
| [16:04:01] | Kobaz: | it was rainey and warm when we went |
| [16:04:22] | Dagmar: | Is there a way to create a new recording profile, beyond just Default, Live TV, High Quality, and Low Quality? |
| [16:04:48] | harryk: | yea, in mythtvsetup under recoridng profiles |
| [16:04:49] | harryk: | add new |
| [16:04:51] | Juski: | think so.. with the 'new profile' menu option I _think_ I remember seeing once |
| [16:05:04] | harryk: | or create new |
| [16:05:06] | harryk: | something like that |
| [16:05:06] | Kobaz: | is there any way to speed up the mythfrontend startup... not like it really matters you just run it once on bootup, but still |
| [16:05:09] | Dagmar: | Under mythtv-setup you say? |
| [16:05:16] | harryk: | Dagmar, yea |
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| [16:05:31] | Dagmar: | Okay, because there's definitely no [ Create new profile ] option inside the frontend |
| [16:05:36] | harryk: | Kobaz, the first time no, but after that it caches the images |
| [16:05:42] | harryk: | and loads considerably faster |
| [16:05:44] | Kobaz: | it doesnt seem to cash anything |
| [16:05:47] | Dagmar: | I'm just now getting around to actually RUNNING the damn thing again, instead of tweaking and tweaking and tweaking my binary packages |
| [16:05:52] | Kobaz: | every time it loads... prescaleing images |
| [16:06:02] | harryk: | during the 'pre-scaling' it must store something somewhere |
| [16:06:05] | Dagmar: | I really, really, really want it to record Eureka tonight |
| [16:06:09] | Dagmar: | heh |
| [16:06:29] | harryk: | because the first time I change resolutions, it takes a bit to load, then later (say the next reboot even) it seems to load half as long |
| [16:06:51] | harryk: | here's a open-ended question |
| [16:07:09] | harryk: | is anyone running mythfrontend in a diskless environment, like say from a linux terminal server backend? |
| [16:07:23] | Juski: | diskless. yep – two frontends |
| [16:07:25] | harryk: | i wanted to get a decent little chip/mobo and some ram, and network boot |
| [16:07:30] | Juski: | one based on minimyth, the other on gentoo |
| [16:07:40] | harryk: | minimyth.. ok, i'll have to check it out |
| [16:07:44] | Kobaz: | minimyth? |
| [16:07:54] | Juski: | only really for EPIA boards |
| [16:07:59] | harryk: | oh |
| [16:08:08] | harryk: | nah this would be just for some old hardware |
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| [16:08:21] | harryk: | i've got a spare duron 700 with a decent video card and 512mb ram I'd like to try to use |
| [16:08:29] | Juski: | though Pablo who builds it will assist you in building it for just about anything (we gave up trying to get it working for my s100 frontend) |
| [16:08:37] | harryk: | heh |
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| [16:09:04] | Juski: | you can convert any distro to diskless with a bit of know-how |
| [16:09:21] | harryk: | i thought about also trying to get it to load up on a solid state drive, say something minimal like 128mb or 256mb flash or something |
| [16:09:23] | harryk: | nice and quiet |
| [16:09:28] | Juski: | just get a kernel with built in nfsroot support & embed the NIC driver |
| [16:09:42] | Kobaz: | harryk: so if i just get a pvr-250, would that pretty much be all i need to make things nice and speedy, or should i upgrade the cpu too |
| [16:09:42] | harryk: | that makes sense too |
| [16:09:43] | Juski: | then mount an nfs share as the / dir |
| [16:10:04] | harryk: | Kobaz, the pvr-250, 350, or 500 woudl all (most likely) solve your problem |
| [16:10:10] | Kobaz: | nifty |
| [16:10:16] | Juski: | rsync files across from a working system (or cp -r).. change fstab & stuff |
| [16:10:43] | harryk: | because at that point its hardware encoding to mpeg2, and then a half-way decent video card with mpeg2 acceleration (just about anything nvidia) and you're set |
| [16:10:51] | Juski: | course you'll need a bootloader but PXEbooting is pretty straightforward.. and _loads_ of guides on it |
| [16:10:53] | Kobaz: | i have an ati |
| [16:10:59] | Kobaz: | which i haven't gotten tvout working for yet |
| [16:11:04] | harryk: | hmm.. |
| [16:11:08] | harryk: | not sure about the ati |
| [16:11:13] | Juski: | ati won't help one iota |
| [16:11:13] | harryk: | the processor, what is it? |
| [16:11:13] | Kobaz: | i have an extra nvidia card with tvout lieing around but i want to throw it in my linux box |
| [16:11:30] | Kobaz: | well, my main linux box |
| [16:11:49] | Juski: | for xvmc you need nvidia or something esoteric like a Via Unichrome special |
| [16:12:15] | harryk: | well.. actually.. with mpeg2 or even dvd quality, we've been able to decode full screen since a p2, 300 .. so as long as you're not running a p2 ... you'd probably be ok |
| [16:12:18] | Kobaz: | ah |
| [16:12:25] | Kobaz: | haha |
| [16:12:28] | Juski: | YMMV |
| [16:12:29] | Kobaz: | yeah it's a p3–800 |
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| [16:12:31] | Juski: | greatly |
| [16:12:32] | harryk: | yea |
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| [16:12:48] | harryk: | throw in a pvr X card, and you'll notice a huge difference |
| [16:12:52] | Juski: | my celery 733 mobile uses 50% CPU playing back 720x576 mpeg2 |
| [16:13:14] | Juski: | draw your own conclusions from that.. and yes, that's optimised |
| [16:13:25] | harryk: | i hear great things about the pvr-350, but I've been quite happy with the pvr-500 |
| [16:13:34] | harryk: | the 350 has built in tv-out |
| [16:13:40] | Kobaz: | yeah |
| [16:13:48] | Juski: | did you hear the one about the strong possibility mythtv 0.20 won't support the pvr350? |
| [16:13:50] | Kobaz: | and i hear it's painless to get working |
| [16:14:02] | harryk: | Juski, really?! |
| [16:14:08] | harryk: | are they breaking something? |
| [16:14:10] | ** stuarta wonders what juski is crapping on about ** | |
| [16:14:15] | Juski: | I heard that in here |
| [16:14:20] | kormoc: | it's true |
| [16:14:24] | harryk: | what?! |
| [16:14:31] | ** Juski laughs ** | |
| [16:14:32] | kormoc: | due to the fact that there are no devs who use the 350's framebuffer |
| [16:14:33] | Kobaz: | whya re they breaking things |
| [16:14:38] | kormoc: | Kobaz, they're not |
| [16:14:40] | harryk: | interesting |
| [16:14:44] | kormoc: | Kobaz, there's a better solution then the framebuffer |
| [16:14:49] | Kobaz: | o |
| [16:14:53] | kormoc: | there's a X driver, so it acts like a full video card |
| [16:15:04] | harryk: | oh |
| [16:15:14] | harryk: | but not necessarily removing support for the 350 tuner |
| [16:15:19] | kormoc: | the framebuffer is a very limited solution, but it seems like most people don't want to bother with the X driver, but no Devs want to bother with the framebuffer code |
| [16:15:39] | kormoc: | so it's just getting stale and if noone picks it up, the frame buffer will be removed when it breaks |
| [16:15:40] | Juski: | go with the flow, or be damned, users ;-) |
| [16:15:50] | harryk: | heh |
| [16:15:52] | ** harryk flows ** | |
| [16:15:56] | Kobaz: | pesky users |
| [16:16:03] | harryk: | always wanting shit |
| [16:16:27] | kormoc: | the 350 is nice, but I prefer a Nvidia card myself :) |
| [16:16:30] | Juski: | they should try laxatives |
| [16:16:37] | harryk: | nice |
| [16:16:38] | kormoc: | or windows |
| [16:16:47] | harryk: | speaking of windows, winmyth is shit |
| [16:16:56] | Juski: | tell us some news |
| [16:17:02] | harryk: | completely and undderly useless |
| [16:17:05] | kormoc: | yes |
| [16:17:07] | Juski: | nobody cares |
| [16:17:14] | harryk: | it's like they just stopped working on it at all |
| [16:17:18] | Juski: | if anyone cared, someone would knock together a native frontend |
| [16:17:27] | kormoc: | esp given they didn't want to use myth's source code, so they reversed engineered it |
| [16:17:29] | Juski: | not some crappy VB menu screen thing |
| [16:17:49] | harryk: | i'm no programmer, but i think a window front-end, native, would be nice |
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| [16:18:01] | harryk: | especially since some of us are stuck with a couple of windows boxes |
| [16:18:03] | kormoc: | yes, let's reverse engineer a *open* source program without looking at the source |
| [16:18:15] | harryk: | heh |
| [16:18:25] | kormoc: | harryk, see the Summer of Code project for a windows frontend based off of cygwin |
| [16:18:46] | harryk: | good luck to the devs |
| [16:18:54] | harryk: | looking forward to seeing what they come back with |
| [16:19:55] | Dagmar: | Okay, adding recording profiles *must* have been added in 0.19-fixes |
| [16:20:00] | Dagmar: | It's definitely nowhere in 0.18 |
| [16:20:02] | Dagmar: | er 0.19 |
| [16:20:03] | harryk: | heh |
| [16:20:34] | Dagmar: | As many times as I've gone through those menus, one item at a time, page after page, again and again, I was pretty sure if it was in there I'd have noticed it |
| [16:20:38] | stuarta: | later all |
| [16:20:44] | janneg: | kormoc: if you want to sell the program |
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| [16:21:05] | kormoc: | janneg, they're not selling it, it's on sourceforge, as opensource |
| [16:21:30] | kormoc: | janneg, they've never answered anyone who asked why they don't just use myth's source rather then reverse engineer |
| [16:21:54] | Dagmar: | Maybe they can't read C++? |
| [16:22:37] | Dagmar: | If it's being written in VB, then that's _probably_ the reason |
| [16:22:41] | Juski: | how about the 'parasitic' frontend? I'm all for giving money to cancer charities, but I'd rather just do that than donate because I'd downloaded some spiky app |
| [16:24:10] | Dagmar: | Juski: I think I may have found a bug of some sort |
| [16:24:23] | Dagmar: | I hesitate to even mention it because it's probably just Qt buggery |
| [16:24:46] | Dagmar: | If I start the frontend in 640x480, I get fonts that are well-nigh unreable. |
| [16:24:57] | Dagmar: | In 800x600 they're larger, and in 1024x768, they're larger still. |
| [16:25:08] | Dagmar: | Seems like that is ass-backwards to what should be happening. |
| [16:25:56] | Juski: | Dagmar: a bug in what? |
| [16:26:04] | harryk: | Dagmar, you can adjust font sizes |
| [16:26:07] | harryk: | i did |
| [16:26:17] | Juski: | myth assumes your DPI is 100, FYI |
| [16:26:18] | harryk: | i didn't care for the defaults, and found them unusable |
| [16:26:18] | Dagmar: | harryk: This is without adjusting the font sizes, i.e., leaving everything at the defaults |
| [16:26:28] | Dagmar: | Juski: Shouldn't it be taking hints from X about that? |
| [16:26:30] | harryk: | i'm suggesting to adjust the size |
| [16:26:33] | Dagmar: | I have DisplaySize set for that reason |
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| [16:26:39] | Juski: | Dagmar: no. it wants 100 dpi |
| [16:26:46] | Dagmar: | Ah ha... |
| [16:26:50] | Dagmar: | Lemme think about this a secodn |
| [16:26:55] | Juski: | all the scaling is based on the assumption that you're running at 100 dpi |
| [16:27:02] | harryk: | Juski, i'm assuming because of the default thought of displaying on a TV? |
| [16:27:03] | Dagmar: | No it's still ass-backwards from what it probably should be doing |
| [16:27:08] | janneg: | kormoc: it was hypothetical. and someone doing clean room reverse engineering to reimplement a open ource program as open soure is more than silly |
| [16:27:19] | Dagmar: | harryk: This is actually displaying on a TV. |
| [16:27:26] | harryk: | Dagmar, ah |
| [16:27:28] | harryk: | well... heh |
| [16:27:40] | harryk: | then you might just adjust and see where you're at |
| [16:27:46] | Dagmar: | So you see what I mean about the fonts should probably be getting smaller as the resolution goes up, not larger. |
| [16:27:48] | harryk: | adjusting is trivial |
| [16:28:03] | harryk: | ok, meeting .. back later |
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| [16:28:16] | Dagmar: | Yeah, but if something is in there doing the opposite of what it should, then that would explain why some of the font stuff behaves somewhat irrationally |
| [16:29:16] | Dagmar: | ...but knowing that the thing depends on a DPI near 100, I can make a workaround to hopefully minimize it |
| [16:30:28] | sloncho: | hi. using 0.19-fixes with analog tuner card. the card work ok with kdetv. with mythtv when I want to watch tv, it starts the sound (it is connected with a small cable to the sound card) and after maybe 20 seconds it displays the video as well. but if i stop watching – by hitting esc, it returns me to the menu, but the sound does not stop. and if I try to go back to watch tv it reports that... |
| [16:30:30] | sloncho: | ...the connection to the backend is broken. the backend continues to run though. what i need to do? |
| [16:30:53] | Dagmar: | sloncho: to stop the backend? |
| [16:31:16] | Juski: | sloncho: mute the line input of the soundcard, but have it selected for recording in alsamixer or whatever. this is in the mythtv FM |
| [16:31:21] | sloncho: | Dagmar: no, to reinit the card maybe, or whatever is needed so it can be used again |
| [16:31:39] | Dagmar: | The frontend handles *all* the display stuff |
| [16:31:52] | Dagmar: | You just start the frontend again and it will reconnect to the backend |
| [16:31:52] | Juski: | sloncho: you could be running out of steam doing software encoding |
| [16:32:03] | sloncho: | Dagmar, if I shut down the frontend, the sound continues |
| [16:32:04] | Dagmar: | Euww... software encoding |
| [16:32:13] | ** Juski votes for removing software encoder support from mythtv ** | |
| [16:32:22] | ** Dagmar seconds the motion. ** | |
| [16:32:25] | Juski: | I'll pay a bounty for it |
| [16:32:31] | sloncho: | hehe :) |
| [16:32:42] | Juski: | I'm not kidding |
| [16:32:49] | sloncho: | the machine is doog – 3.4 sempron |
| [16:32:58] | sloncho: | doog=good :) |
| [16:33:02] | Juski: | something is very wrong then |
| [16:33:30] | sloncho: | anyway, this card is actually on a slave backend. i have another machine with pvr250 as master |
| [16:33:53] | Juski: | not even my 733mhz celery takes 20 secs to start playback |
| [16:34:15] | sloncho: | and if i select to watch tv on the other machine, and it selects that tuner, the sound is not forwarded to the other frontend, i hear it on the machine where the backend is |
| [16:34:30] | Juski: | the only thing software encoding cards have going for them is that CC support is very very good |
| [16:35:00] | Juski: | so if you need CC & you can't get hold of a pvr250/350, go for software encoders |
| [16:35:06] | Juski: | or DVB/HDTV |
| [16:35:37] | Juski: | do you still get CC with firewire HD boxen? |
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| [16:36:11] | sloncho: | juski, as i have this card, and i do not intend to use it heavily, i put it on a faster machine, just to be able to watch tv or make a second recording if the pvr250 is recording |
| [16:36:25] | Juski: | so all the folks who rely on CC – sorry I'd forgotten you.. keep support for sw encoding until at least CC works on pvr150/500 cards ;-) |
| [16:36:26] | sloncho: | but it does not work as intended |
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| [16:37:11] | ben__: | can anyone help me – im trying to add network shared drives into mythmedia? |
| [16:37:19] | ben__: | but i think i have to mount the shares before hand? |
| [16:37:21] | Juski: | sloncho: silly question.. is DMA enabled? |
| [16:37:27] | Juski: | wtf is mythmedia? |
| [16:37:31] | sloncho: | juski, yes |
| [16:37:35] | ben__: | err... the media part of myth |
| [16:37:41] | Juski: | eh? |
| [16:37:47] | ben__: | hmm.. |
| [16:37:51] | ben__: | what i mean is |
| [16:37:55] | Dagmar: | benc-: There's only MythAudio and MythVideo plugins, man |
| [16:38:05] | ben__: | ok... well thats wha ti mean then :) |
| [16:38:09] | ben__: | mythaudio |
| [16:38:12] | sloncho: | ben__: the mount should be done in fstab upon system boot |
| [16:38:18] | ben__: | fstab |
| [16:38:22] | Juski: | mythmusic / mythvideo.. ahhh |
| [16:38:22] | ben__: | ok ty :) ill go google that |
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| [16:38:41] | sloncho: | ben__: what kind of share – nfs? |
| [16:38:58] | ben__: | hmm... nfs? |
| [16:39:04] | ben__: | the share is on xp sp2 |
| [16:39:26] | ben__: | im guessing nfs is a linux file system? |
| [16:39:29] | sloncho: | ben__: a, ok, samba :) |
| [16:39:49] | sloncho: | anyway, google for mount samba shares |
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| [16:39:56] | ben__: | ok |
| [16:40:00] | ben__: | tyvm :) |
| [16:40:03] | sloncho: | put the right entries in fstab, and u r ok to go |
| [16:40:52] | sloncho: | juski, the DMA is enabled, but actually the mythtv recording directory is nfs share on another machine. can this be a problem for the soft encoder? |
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| [16:41:11] | sloncho: | and still, why it does not stop the sound from the tuner? |
| [16:41:23] | Juski: | sloncho: maybe. youre not on a wireless connection are you? |
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| [16:41:30] | sloncho: | and why i get sound on the machine where the tuner is, and it is not forwarded to the frontend on the other machine |
| [16:41:41] | Juski: | sloncho: I told you. mute the line input |
| [16:41:41] | sloncho: | juski – no, wired 100 |
| [16:41:59] | sloncho: | juski, is this going to redirect the output? |
| [16:42:35] | Juski: | you've obviously not selected the audio to be recorded in alsamixer or whatever |
| [16:42:45] | sloncho: | one more q: how do I select what to use alsa or oss |
| [16:43:04] | sloncho: | juski, thanks for the tip, i'll try this |
| [16:43:33] | kormoc: | sloncho, read the docs on setting up ALSA to switch to ASLA? |
| [16:44:24] | sloncho: | kormoc: i have build with support for both. but in the audio device selection – see only /dev/dsp which is i beleave the oss way of naming. or i'm wrong? |
| [16:44:57] | kormoc: | sloncho, right, and the docs have a section on what to type in there to use ALSA |
| [16:45:09] | sloncho: | kormoc, thanks |
| [16:45:40] | Zider: | exchange /dev/dsp with ALSA:default |
| [16:46:20] | gardengnome: | and set "default2 in the mixer box |
| [16:47:16] | gardengnome: | "default" i mean |
| [16:54:09] | sloncho: | Zider: thanks. one more Q – i have 2 sound cards on that machine, both working with alsa – how do I select the right one for mythtv |
| [16:54:49] | Zider: | use .asoundrc to configure a pcm for the card you wanna use and then use ALSA:nameofhtpcm to get mythtv to use it |
| [16:55:06] | sloncho: | Zider: thanks |
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| [16:56:56] | Zider: | no problem |
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| [17:17:29] | vanquish: | question: i have a nvidia riva128 – it's...quite old |
| [17:17:35] | vanquish: | i get a lot of nvp: prebuffering and rebuffering messages |
| [17:17:39] | vanquish: | is that the fault of the card, or something else? |
| [17:17:43] | vanquish: | i'm using the tv-out |
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| [17:22:18] | xris: | hey everyone, my company is looking to get some new swag to give out at events, and the marketing company gave us a bunch of lame ideas. what kind of cool (fairly inexpensive) geeky swag stuff do you like to see from companies (aside from the standard flash drives, tshirts, etc) |
| [17:22:52] | gardengnome: | flash drives sound nifty. |
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| [17:23:17] | gardengnome: | what about some cool posters? i don't know if this is 'standard', though :) |
| [17:23:32] | xris: | posters would be company logos, etc.. hardly cool. heh |
| [17:23:38] | ivor_: | xris: anything with flashing lights on it. |
| [17:23:43] | xris: | lol |
| [17:23:54] | gardengnome: | well, maybe some cool stuff with the company logo printed somewhere in a corner ;) |
| [17:24:03] | ** ivor_ cherishes his flashing google badge. ** | |
| [17:24:16] | gardengnome: | what about those air bazookas and the like? i think you should just order half of thinkgeek.com :) |
| [17:25:29] | xris: | lol |
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| [17:26:16] | vanquish: | xris: usefull stuff like keychain pocket knifes and multi head screwdrivers are usefull |
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| [17:28:04] | xris: | yeah, we did little mini-leatherman type things a few years ago that were kind of cool |
| [17:28:18] | xris: | I was thinking dice would be neat, too. |
| [17:28:39] | ivor_: | binary dice naturally. |
| [17:28:49] | xris: | lol. that'd be cool |
| [17:29:32] | xris: | wonder if we'll get any of this stuff before linuxworld |
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| [17:30:05] | xris: | vanquish: are those prebuffering messages causing trouble, or just messages? |
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| [17:31:27] | vanquish: | yes, the video stutters |
| [17:31:47] | xris: | vanquish: cpu and network speeds? |
| [17:32:05] | vanquish: | network speed irrelavent, same box front and backend |
| [17:32:08] | vanquish: | amd 2000+ |
| [17:32:18] | vanquish: | clocks about 1.7 i think |
| [17:32:27] | xris: | what kind of video? |
| [17:32:36] | vanquish: | its a pci framegrabber, not mpeg onboard |
| [17:33:00] | xris: | what resolution/bitrate? livetv? |
| [17:33:51] | vanquish: | 640x480 i think, not sure about the bittrate |
| [17:33:56] | vanquish: | whatever default is |
| [17:34:01] | vanquish: | i haven't changed the profiles yet |
| [17:34:23] | vanquish: | livetv and prerecorded are the same |
| [17:34:33] | vanquish: | with or without something else recording in the background |
| [17:34:57] | xris: | odd... the stuttering is usually because the cpu can't handle decoding the mpeg.. or because it's too much to encode and decode at the same time. |
| [17:35:09] | vanquish: | i concur |
| [17:35:21] | vanquish: | which brings me to suspect the graphics card |
| [17:35:25] | xris: | might be |
| [17:35:31] | xris: | do you have another you can test with? |
| [17:35:40] | vanquish: | riva128 is pretty old, although i seem to recall other people using one |
| [17:35:54] | xris: | do the nvidia binary drivers work with it? |
| [17:36:01] | vanquish: | nvidia, no |
| [17:36:08] | vanquish: | i'm using nv drivers right now |
| [17:36:21] | xris: | well, you'll definitely get better tv out appearance with a gf4 or newer... |
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| [17:36:23] | kormoc: | xris, the riva is pre gforce |
| [17:36:30] | xris: | kormoc: I figured. |
| [17:37:05] | vanquish: | i do notice high cpu usage from X, something i think may be due to the card not supporting xv extentions and doing it in software, but i'm not sure |
| [17:38:40] | Dagmar: | Wow |
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| [17:39:03] | Dagmar: | I get the feeling that ivtv and reiserfs don't like each other much |
| [17:39:19] | vanquish: | that doesn't make much sense.... |
| [17:39:22] | Dagmar: | http://pastebin.ca/91480 |
| [17:39:47] | Dagmar: | You tell me, man. This only happens when it's using the tuner card, and only since I put in 0.7.0 and 2.6.17.4 |
| [17:40:27] | Dagmar: | Pretty much the only thing going on in / is what's in /dev |
| [17:40:33] | vanquish: | heh ouch |
| [17:40:57] | vanquish: | Dagmar: honestly, i would suggest moving to xfs. it handles deletion of large files very well, something that is usefull with mythtv |
| [17:41:02] | vanquish: | and it's pretty stable |
| [17:41:09] | vanquish: | i've had a lot of problems with reiser myself |
| [17:41:24] | Dagmar: | vanquish: Dude, I'm already using jfs for the "large" partitions. |
| [17:41:45] | vanquish: | so? |
| [17:41:58] | Dagmar: | If I have a problem with deleting large files in a partition that's only 256Mb in size, I should just go ahead and drop the machine off the balcony |
| [17:42:36] | Dagmar: | You're trying to tell me I shoudl change the filesystem of / for completely useless reasons |
| [17:43:30] | vanquish: | ah, i thought you were storing video in root |
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| [17:43:59] | vanquish: | those errors seem to be ignorable |
| [17:44:09] | vanquish: | i'd google reiser and knfsd |
| [17:44:35] | Dagmar: | Yeah, I'm not using knfsd either, and it's always kvetching about the same inode, so I figure it's the device node entries or something |
| [17:44:50] | Dagmar: | No corruption yet, but it's still scary to see. heh |
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| [17:51:00] | Juski: | heh. seems the users list is now too lame for people to ask stupid questions, and they're appearing on the dev list. great :-/ |
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| [17:51:45] | liran1: | Juski: so you think the irrecord and mode2 tools may not recognize some remotes? |
| [17:52:40] | Juski: | liran1 in my experience yes. the carrier frequency your remote uses (and ergo the IR receiver you use) could be a factor too |
| [17:53:00] | Juski: | some remotes use IrDA |
| [17:53:12] | Juski: | and some are just plain weird (think B&O) |
| [17:53:53] | liran1: | well i have no idea what irda or b&o means but ill take your word on it. |
| [17:54:05] | liran1: | is there anything i can do to make it work still? like use some other tool or something? |
| [17:54:17] | Juski: | Bang & Olofsun (iirc) |
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| [17:54:53] | Juski: | IrDA is the protocol used by some wireless IR devices to communicate. I've had a cable box which used IrDA & couldn't be learned with my learning remote |
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| [17:55:41] | Juski: | liran1. maybe try a different version of lirc.. make sure the port you're using for the receiver isn't being used.. ensure the lirc module(s) load properly... |
| [17:56:40] | Juski: | IIRC you probably can't use any old receiver.. if it's the sort with 'intelligence' behind it (e.g. on a capture card possibly), you might be limited to using just one kind of remote |
| [17:56:54] | Juski: | if it's a serial port receiver you _should_ be okay |
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| [18:01:42] | scales: | any one care to help me on my question? |
| [18:01:42] | scales: | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=465189 |
| [18:02:48] | gardengnome: | the lack of formatting makes it kinda hard to read |
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| [18:03:54] | Dibblah: | Hmmm... Noone DVBish about :( |
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| [18:04:33] | sloncho: | scales: from the repair prompt, open the fstab file, and comment out the entry for this jfs partition |
| [18:04:40] | sloncho: | reboot |
| [18:04:58] | scales: | ok well, |
| [18:05:03] | sloncho: | then when boot again, use mkfs to create the filesystem on the partition |
| [18:05:05] | scales: | fstab is in /etc/ right? |
| [18:05:11] | sloncho: | scales, right |
| [18:05:16] | scales: | mine isnt there |
| [18:05:50] | scales: | that is what i checked, but i cant find it. i cant use locate to find it either |
| [18:05:51] | sloncho: | something else than goes wrong. it's not possible. do u have something else in /etc? |
| [18:06:01] | sloncho: | it should be there |
| [18:06:09] | scales: | mstab or mtab i think |
| [18:06:13] | scales: | but no fstab |
| [18:06:51] | scales: | that is when i do the rescue disk |
| [18:07:00] | scales: | and i do vi /etc/fstab |
| [18:07:01] | sloncho: | oh, yes |
| [18:07:21] | sloncho: | u need to mount the partition on which is your fedora install |
| [18:07:43] | sloncho: | i guess u have hsa1 – ntfs, hda2 – fc5, hda3 – swap |
| [18:07:55] | sloncho: | and the rest is your new partitions |
| [18:07:55] | scales: | humm, ok i will try that, it is actually hda1 |
| [18:07:58] | scales: | or hda2 |
| [18:07:59] | sloncho: | right? |
| [18:08:02] | scales: | one or the other |
| [18:08:08] | scales: | hda7 is my jfs |
| [18:08:15] | sloncho: | fdisk -l /dev/hda will show |
| [18:08:20] | scales: | k |
| [18:08:24] | scales: | i will try that |
| [18:08:34] | sloncho: | then mount /dev/hdx /mnt |
| [18:08:34] | scales: | i am at work now, and will be back home in a few hours |
| [18:08:40] | scales: | i will take a look |
| [18:08:45] | scales: | another question |
| [18:08:46] | sloncho: | then edit /mnt/etc |
| [18:08:51] | sloncho: | then edit /mnt/etc/fstab |
| [18:09:00] | scales: | could i boot a live cd, and then edit the file? |
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| [18:09:13] | sloncho: | yes, i preffer knoppix for such a things |
| [18:09:22] | scales: | ok i got a copy of that |
| [18:09:27] | scales: | i will try that out |
| [18:09:29] | scales: | thanks |
| [18:09:36] | sloncho: | it exposes all partitions on the desktop, so its just doubleclick to open them |
| [18:09:43] | scales: | ahh, good good |
| [18:10:26] | sloncho: | just u know that it mounts them read only. in order to mount readwrite, u need to rightclick over the icon and set the proper setting |
| [18:10:49] | sloncho: | good luck |
| [18:11:20] | scales: | ok thanks |
| [18:12:05] | scales: | also as a side note, i tried to ask this in the fedora channel and no one has answered yet |
| [18:12:23] | sloncho: | and next time – first shrink the filesystem, and then the partition |
| [18:13:17] | scales: | hehe i tried to shrink it, it said it was busy though. i also unmounted it and tried it |
| [18:13:24] | scales: | i was using qtparted |
| [18:15:22] | liran1: | i see. well all modules are working fine because im using the pvr 150 remote. and what i have is obviously not a serial port receiver but the receiver and blaster that came with the pvr150. |
| [18:15:55] | Kobaz: | hmm |
| [18:16:09] | Kobaz: | how do you set up myth to use the bt848 audio capture |
| [18:16:16] | liran1: | Juski: uhmmm. i was able to learn that new remote with an ipaq software. but is that any useful to create a working lircd.conf file? |
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| [18:21:44] | scales: | kobaz: |
| [18:21:54] | scales: | what card do you have, wintvgo? |
| [18:22:14] | Kobaz: | yeah |
| [18:22:38] | Kobaz: | ive been searching for info for a while now and haven't come up with anything |
| [18:23:23] | scales: | yeah |
| [18:23:29] | scales: | ok i got the same card |
| [18:23:33] | scales: | which distro ? |
| [18:23:59] | Kobaz: | plebian |
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| [18:24:30] | scales: | hummm, well i chose fedora core 5 because it was natively supported |
| [18:24:48] | scales: | i followed jarods guide. it tells you to shut off something |
| [18:24:59] | scales: | but really i just had to play with the sliders, and mute toggles |
| [18:25:23] | Kobaz: | well i have the kernel module loaded but it doesnt seem to do anything |
| [18:25:28] | Kobaz: | Jul 18 15:25:36 kyle kernel: PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 0000:00:13.1 |
| [18:25:28] | Kobaz: | Jul 18 15:25:36 kyle kernel: PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 0000:00:0b.0 |
| [18:25:28] | Kobaz: | Jul 18 15:25:36 kyle kernel: PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 0000:00:13.0 |
| [18:25:30] | Kobaz: | thats all i get |
| [18:25:42] | scales: | you need to have an external audio cable connecting the card to the sound cards line in |
| [18:25:50] | scales: | do you have that? |
| [18:25:58] | Kobaz: | well |
| [18:26:07] | Kobaz: | i'm trying to avoid that since i dont know where my cable is |
| [18:26:17] | scales: | i dont think you can do it without |
| [18:26:21] | Kobaz: | which is why im trying to use btaudio |
| [18:26:30] | Kobaz: | you can, if you use the bt848 audio capture driverf |
| [18:26:31] | scales: | i had to do it, and i know even in windows, you need to do it |
| [18:26:38] | scales: | humm |
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| [18:26:56] | Kobaz: | i might just go and make a cable, it would probably be easier |
| [18:27:09] | scales: | probably, are you getting the video correctly? |
| [18:27:14] | Kobaz: | yeah that all works |
| [18:27:15] | scales: | can you see the tv>? |
| [18:27:45] | Kobaz: | yeah all the tv stuff works |
| [18:27:56] | scales: | humm |
| [18:28:02] | scales: | any reason why you chose plebian? |
| [18:28:09] | Kobaz: | CONFIG_SND_BT87X: |
| [18:28:09] | Kobaz: | x If you want to record audio from TV cards based on |
| [18:28:09] | Kobaz: | x Brooktree Bt878/Bt879 chips, say Y here and read |
| [18:28:09] | Kobaz: | x <file:Documentation/sound/alsa/Bt87x.txt>. |
| [18:28:12] | Kobaz: | heh |
| [18:28:36] | Kobaz: | plebian is just a term from another channel that refers to debian |
| [18:28:43] | Kobaz: | anyways, thats the driver i'm using |
| [18:29:01] | Kobaz: | but aparently not all bt848 cards have audio capture available |
| [18:29:23] | scales: | humm |
| [18:29:40] | scales: | any reason why you wouldnt just go with fedora since that card is natively supported? |
| [18:29:45] | Kobaz: | plebian == If Linux was a religion, and GNU its church, Debian GNU/Linux would be the Amish distibution. Anyone who ever ran dselect will agree that it is "plain". And what's with this potato stuff, were all the good names taken? Bow three times toward Richard Stallman whenever you boot this. |
| [18:29:51] | Kobaz: | well |
| [18:29:52] | scales: | maybe it is natively supported with other distros |
| [18:29:55] | Kobaz: | i dont like redhat |
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| [18:30:04] | scales: | i see |
| [18:30:14] | Kobaz: | and the reason it's "natively supported" is that the driver is in the standard kernel tree |
| [18:30:18] | Kobaz: | which 99% of distos use |
| [18:30:48] | scales: | ok, |
| [18:30:56] | scales: | understood. |
| [18:30:58] | Kobaz: | heh |
| [18:31:12] | Kobaz: | so what i did was loaded up debian on a spare box |
| [18:31:17] | Kobaz: | downlaoded 2.6.17.4 |
| [18:31:25] | Kobaz: | compiled in all the drivers i wanted, and set up mythtv |
| [18:31:31] | Kobaz: | the only thing im missing now is audio capture :( |
| [18:31:33] | scales: | well i am newb, i just happen to have that card, and i used fc5 which was real easy by following that tutorial |
| [18:31:39] | Kobaz: | yeah |
| [18:31:48] | Kobaz: | theres tutorials for alot of distros |
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| [18:32:08] | Kobaz: | that weird distro is pretty popular |
| [18:32:10] | scales: | i cant say i prefer fc5 over anything else, just that that tutorial is very well known and works quite well |
| [18:32:14] | Kobaz: | gentoo or something |
| [18:32:19] | Kobaz: | yeah |
| [18:32:36] | scales: | ubuntu appeals to be most i think |
| [18:32:49] | scales: | but i hear that if both are compared, there isnt all that much difference |
| [18:33:03] | scales: | performance and ease of use wise |
| [18:33:13] | Kobaz: | well gentoo is based loosely on bsd type systems with /usr/ports and stuff |
| [18:33:18] | Kobaz: | i think it's a step backwards |
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| [18:33:54] | scales: | humm |
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| [18:34:35] | scales: | well i really am interested in finding the perfect linux for me, but i really dont know much difference between ubuntu and fc5 |
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| [18:34:52] | Juski: | "The vision of a digital home in which music and video is streamed between devices is still 10 years away, says a leading music technology businessman.".. hahahah. bollocks |
| [18:34:58] | Kobaz: | heh |
| [18:35:04] | scales: | i really like the whole xgl |
| [18:35:12] | scales: | very cool lookin |
| [18:35:22] | scales: | kororaa is an interesting way to try it |
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| [18:35:30] | KarenCooke: | Hi – mythbackend 0.19.20060121–2 starts when I run it from the console, but when i try to run /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend, i get this: Session management error: Could not open network socket |
| [18:35:37] | KarenCooke: | ps -A | grep myth shows nothing before that command |
| [18:35:59] | Juski: | xgl is not much more than pure eye candy & I don't think it'll be much use for a good while yet IMHO |
| [18:36:09] | KarenCooke: | hmm, thats odd, mythfrontend works, live tv works |
| [18:36:17] | scales: | well yeah i just like the eye candy |
| [18:36:19] | KarenCooke: | i think its just having a good old fasioned whinge about nothing |
| [18:36:41] | Juski: | being able to use the GPU for other stuff would be cooler I think.. like transcoding |
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| [18:36:44] | Kobaz: | KarenCooke: do you not have tcp/ip support in your kernel? |
| [18:37:12] | Kobaz: | or perhaps your mysql server is down, or firewalled off, or something like that |
| [18:37:15] | Kobaz: | something network related |
| [18:37:54] | scales: | transcoding? |
| [18:38:27] | Kobaz: | transcoding is converting from one format to another |
| [18:38:36] | Kobaz: | as in say, converting avi to mpeg |
| [18:38:40] | haj: | Juski: well.. only if the GPU is fast.. on my FX5700 it would properly suck :) |
| [18:38:55] | haj: | Juski: At least, i think my 3200+ would be faster :) |
| [18:39:13] | Kobaz: | its going to be insane when gpu's are dual core and 64bit and all that, and running at like 2ghz |
| [18:39:43] | Kobaz: | actually some new nvidia cards are dual core now arent they |
| [18:39:56] | Kobaz: | or if not duel core, two gpu's on a card |
| [18:40:13] | Kobaz: | i heard something about that, i'm kinda out of the loop with fancy video cards these days |
| [18:40:42] | haj: | Kobaz: not really.. dual gpu |
| [18:41:15] | haj: | Kobaz: or rather.. it's to cards on one print running SLi. |
| [18:41:26] | Kobaz: | yeah i know about sli |
| [18:41:35] | haj: | Kobaz: but dualcore gpu sounds like something that might happen |
| [18:41:45] | Kobaz: | but i think theres some new nvidia card that has dual gpus |
| [18:41:48] | ** haj dumped SLi.. ** | |
| [18:42:04] | haj: | i had 2x 6600GT.. but a single 7900GT is much faster.. :) |
| [18:42:11] | Kobaz: | heh |
| [18:42:15] | Kobaz: | yeah thats how it goes |
| [18:42:24] | Kobaz: | i have an old 6800gt |
| [18:42:40] | Kobaz: | i barely get 28fps with doom3 |
| [18:42:45] | Kobaz: | sad |
| [18:42:48] | haj: | the way it always goes for me is that i build a monster gaming-pc.. and then i stop playing games for a year ;) |
| [18:43:04] | Kobaz: | i've been mostly playing stuff like crack attack |
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| [18:43:13] | Kobaz: | which needs at most a 10 year old card that supports opengl |
| [18:43:44] | haj: | i got my 7900GT for Oblivion... and i played it a lot too... but now its summer, gaming is boring when its summer.. |
| [18:43:51] | haj: | especially games that are dark ;) |
| [18:44:19] | scales: | haha, i am still on ut2004, starcraft, and Age of Mythology |
| [18:44:42] | scales: | my laptop doesnt handle anything else at full res, ut2004 is like the peak of my performance |
| [18:44:47] | Kobaz: | hehe |
| [18:45:03] | Kobaz: | my laptop plays ut2004 pretty well, but cod is choppy for some reason |
| [18:45:04] | ** haj never played ut2004 much... ** | |
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| [18:45:06] | scales: | and i am spoiled in the sense that i have to run everything at 1400by1050 |
| [18:45:22] | scales: | ut2004 just has a great engine |
| [18:45:23] | haj: | i played a lot of AoEII a couple of years ago.. |
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| [18:45:46] | scales: | aoe2 is ok, but i think starcraft will always be up there. |
| [18:45:46] | Kobaz: | haj: is it just me or was aoe3 a dissapointment |
| [18:45:59] | scales: | aoe3 is really neat, but way to intense for my laptop |
| [18:46:12] | Kobaz: | well its nice and all but i thought it would be better |
| [18:46:16] | haj: | Kobaz: it's a bit boring... compared to AoE2 at least... i don't like that card-stuff they put in. |
| [18:46:23] | Kobaz: | i honestly really like the aoe1 style cartoon graphics |
| [18:46:24] | scales: | really? |
| [18:46:29] | scales: | hehe |
| [18:46:35] | Kobaz: | the new fangled 3d stuff |
| [18:46:43] | Kobaz: | the 3d rendering isnt good enough to be really good |
| [18:46:46] | Kobaz: | so it just looks fake |
| [18:46:49] | scales: | yeah but the water in aoe3 is just out of this world |
| [18:46:59] | Kobaz: | haha yeah the water is the only thing that looks good |
| [18:47:15] | scales: | and how the buildings or ships fall apart when they are hit? |
| [18:47:20] | scales: | pretty impressive |
| [18:47:23] | Kobaz: | yeah pretty nice |
| [18:47:31] | Kobaz: | the little effects here and there are nifty |
| [18:47:32] | scales: | i like how the mast will fall over |
| [18:47:35] | Kobaz: | hehe |
| [18:47:39] | scales: | yeah just really nice stuff |
| [18:47:42] | scales: | cards are ehh |
| [18:47:43] | haj: | Kobaz: I do once in a while play a skirmish mission once in a while.. it's pretty funny for 10–15 minutes :) |
| [18:48:00] | Kobaz: | have you ever beat the computer on expert |
| [18:48:06] | haj: | no |
| [18:48:09] | Kobaz: | heh |
| [18:48:14] | haj: | i only play at hard :) |
| [18:48:21] | Kobaz: | yeah i can beat hard |
| [18:48:22] | haj: | i hate losing ;) |
| [18:48:28] | Kobaz: | i haven't tried more than one computer at a time though |
| [18:48:33] | Kobaz: | except on easy |
| [18:48:38] | scales: | haha |
| [18:48:39] | scales: | uh huh |
| [18:48:44] | Kobaz: | but expert, i think the computer cheats |
| [18:48:59] | scales: | ok different topic, but i will shoot |
| [18:49:11] | scales: | i was reading up a bit on these car pcs |
| [18:49:21] | Kobaz: | which, most games, the computer does cheat on the highest level, you just cant make the computer any harder otherwisew |
| [18:49:37] | Kobaz: | scales: i'm gonna build one with a vroompc case and a gps and all that |
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| [18:50:13] | Kobaz: | assuming some company actually has the vroompc case in stock damnit |
| [18:53:39] | scales: | humm |
| [18:53:45] | scales: | i was lookinginto making one |
| [18:53:52] | scales: | yeah i want the gps too |
| [18:54:02] | scales: | i dunno how much it would cost, |
| [18:54:17] | scales: | i kinda thought it could be done via an old laptop |
| [18:54:21] | scales: | no? |
| [18:54:33] | scales: | or i hoped |
| [18:54:43] | Kobaz: | yeah you can |
| [18:54:50] | scales: | humm |
| [18:55:05] | haj: | are there any linux GPS-software that works? or what OS would you run on a box like that? |
| [18:55:12] | Kobaz: | if you want a bottom of the barrel cheap carputer, you're looking at like around $300 |
| [18:55:16] | scales: | do you know what kind of gps i need or could get? also would it run linux? |
| [18:55:22] | Kobaz: | haj: yeah, i found some |
| [18:55:35] | Kobaz: | scales: theres a $70 usb gps i found somewhere |
| [18:55:52] | Kobaz: | http://linuxadvocate.org/projects/roadster/ |
| [18:55:56] | Kobaz: | http://roadnav.sourceforge.net/ |
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| [18:56:31] | Kobaz: | i still dont know exactly how i'm going to mount the lcd |
| [18:57:22] | scales: | humm |
| [18:57:28] | scales: | what about a touchpad? |
| [18:57:45] | Kobaz: | touchpad as a mouse? |
| [18:57:50] | Kobaz: | hmm, never thought of that |
| [18:57:51] | Kobaz: | i have one too |
| [18:58:37] | scales: | i got two older laptops, ibms, both have pcmcia ports, |
| [18:58:40] | scales: | and cd roms |
| [18:58:45] | scales: | i would love to just use them |
| [18:58:51] | scales: | 14 inch screens |
| [18:58:54] | Kobaz: | well |
| [18:59:09] | scales: | maybe put some sort of cut down linux on them, like dsl |
| [18:59:09] | Kobaz: | unless your gonna mount the entire laptop on the dashboard, which is unlikely |
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| [18:59:17] | Kobaz: | the size of the lcd is fairly unimportant |
| [18:59:18] | scales: | well yeah no duhh |
| [18:59:21] | Kobaz: | heh |
| [18:59:42] | scales: | well i need to get some sort of screen that fits somewhere in the car |
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| [18:59:50] | Kobaz: | i wanna get a 7 inch lilliput lcd... i have an empty 5.25 bay in the console that i can use, i think |
| [18:59:57] | Kobaz: | but it would involve alot of modding |
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| [19:00:20] | Kobaz: | build one of those things where i can slide the lcd out and flip it up |
| [19:00:38] | scales: | yeah that would be cool , i got some space for that |
| [19:00:46] | scales: | what car you want to do it on? |
| [19:00:58] | Kobaz: | 2002 subaru forrester |
| [19:01:16] | scales: | i was lookin on doing it on my 2002 civic si |
| [19:01:46] | scales: | only thing with that flip out lcd, is that the stick shift on my car is up in the center of the console |
| [19:01:53] | scales: | almost in the dash |
| [19:02:02] | scales: | and just below the radio |
| [19:02:31] | Kobaz: | heh |
| [19:02:40] | Kobaz: | yeah my shifter is kinda right in the way too |
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| [19:07:20] | ben__: | has anyone here and any experience with using a tv out on a dual head gfx card and mythtv? |
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| [19:34:20] | js0: | my myth tv programming is off by one channel. For example, on channel 2 it shows the programming for channel 3. Any idea how this could be fixed? |
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| [19:35:35] | scales: | kobaz you still around? |
| [19:35:54] | gardengnome: | i've heard that before, it's probably because you've chosen the wrong frequency table. try search the mailing list |
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| [19:36:17] | Kobaz: | yeap |
| [19:36:22] | js0: | search for wrong frequency table? |
| [19:36:36] | scales: | have you seen any tutorials for installing the gps stuff in a car? |
| [19:36:42] | gardengnome: | |
| [19:36:52] | gardengnome: | gps stuff in a car? *peeks up* |
| [19:37:18] | scales: | hehe, kobaz and i were talking about car pcs |
| [19:37:21] | scales: | earlier |
| [19:37:30] | gardengnome: | ah, nice |
| [19:37:35] | gardengnome: | hopefully using linux? |
| [19:37:39] | scales: | course |
| [19:37:52] | scales: | i am a newb, but happy to try more things with linux |
| [19:37:55] | gardengnome: | heh |
| [19:38:06] | gardengnome: | did you guys find that proprietary gps software? |
| [19:38:18] | scales: | i wanted to take an old laptop i have and use it somehow to do gps, maybe mp3, to my car |
| [19:38:21] | Kobaz: | copilot? |
| [19:38:32] | gardengnome: | no, navigator something. hang on, i'm gonna find the url |
| [19:38:35] | scales: | http://linuxadvocate.org/projects/roadster/ |
| [19:38:36] | scales: | http://roadnav.sourceforge.net/ |
| [19:38:48] | scales: | that is what kobaz posted earlier |
| [19:39:52] | scales: | i dont have a gps receiver, or a good lcd to use |
| [19:40:17] | scales: | i dunno where to begin to look for those things, especially if i dont know what is supported for what distro, etc |
| [19:40:43] | gardengnome: | www.mapfactor.com – look here. |
| [19:41:19] | gardengnome: | gps receiver. i was going to buy an used navilock device, but i haven't been able to snipe one off ebay yet |
| [19:41:53] | scales: | what would i look for? |
| [19:42:35] | gardengnome: | http://www.mapfactor.com/products/navigator/detail.html – that |
| [19:42:57] | gardengnome: | in hte more expensive versions, it also comes with a carpc interface |
| [19:43:25] | gardengnome: | i'm looking into using an openwrt device in my car. should be fun for wardriving, vehicle tracking and probably some mp3 playback |
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| [19:46:47] | scales: | yeah all i want is mp3 and gps |
| [19:47:16] | gardengnome: | well, with most openwrt devices, you'll have to use something usb-based for sound, i'm not sure if that works well |
| [19:47:57] | scales: | humm, cant use the onboard sound card of my laptop? |
| [19:48:19] | gardengnome: | i've got a semi-working graphical LCD somewhere, i wonder if could use that. there even used to be a kernel driver for use as an tty, but that only worked with linux 2.0 or so. |
| [19:48:39] | gardengnome: | scales: usually yes, but you're not running openwrt on your laptop, are you? :) http://www.openwrt.org |
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| [19:50:50] | scales: | i dunno, looks a bit complicated. what is it just a distro? could i use something else like DSL? or Slackware? |
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| [19:51:10] | scales: | i would realllly like to not code since i dont know much about that |
| [19:53:48] | scales: | so could i use something like this |
| [19:53:48] | scales: | http://cgi.ebay.com/BC-337-CF-GPS-Receiver-An . . . photohosting |
| [19:55:44] | scales: | or this http://cgi.ebay.com/GPS-CF-Compactflash-Compa . . . cmdZViewItem |
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| [19:59:17] | scales: | hummm |
| [19:59:24] | scales: | i will keep lookin for tutorials |
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| [20:16:03] | Whyvas: | can someone inform me how to get input from the rca in on a pvr-250? do i have to add another channel ?? 0? 1? or do i have to add a video source? composite0? svideo0??? |
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| [20:46:25] | xris: | Whyvas: new video source (listings source), enable that source on the composite0 device, and create a channel-change script |
| [20:47:08] | scales: | use # when i want to comment something out? |
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| [21:03:46] | Mattwj2005: | hey guys :D |
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| [21:22:37] | Juski: | yay it's quiet tonight. |
| [21:22:51] | Juski: | roll on the dumb questions where I can yell at people to RTFM |
| [21:23:24] | scales: | he |
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| [21:24:32] | tewk: | Can anyone recommend a good IR keyboard and mouse for Myth, prefereable USB |
| [21:25:01] | Juski: | been to a 'planning meeting' tonight to oppose a new housing development being built. seems that only the minutae of the plans are up for debate.. the actual building of the thing has already got the green light. so why the fuck do they even bother consulting members of the local community? argghh! I'm pissed about that |
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| [21:26:43] | Juski: | tewk: you do realise of course that any IR keyboard would only ever have line-of-sight range anyway.. which might pose problems in your livingroom |
| [21:27:43] | xris: | Juski: you haven't used the ms keyboard, have you? |
| [21:27:47] | Whyvas: | xris, channel-change script? |
| [21:27:57] | xris: | Whyvas: what are you connecting to the composite port? |
| [21:28:05] | Juski: | xris: no I've not. is that only IR? |
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| [21:28:33] | Whyvas: | wireless camera |
| [21:29:12] | xris: | Juski: it's bad in that it's a REMOTE (no keyboard driver).. but the reception is incredible. receiver on top of table, kb under table.. still had perfect reception. |
| [21:29:24] | xris: | even the remote has better reception/range than my rf.. around corners, etc. |
| [21:29:29] | Juski: | xris: ahh cool (ish) |
| [21:30:01] | xris: | Whyvas: mythtv's tv stuff is, well, designed for tv... so it's expecting a tv listings source, etc. |
| [21:30:07] | Juski: | since the onscreen keyboard came along I no longer need a wireless keyboard |
| [21:30:11] | Whyvas: | yeah |
| [21:30:15] | xris: | you'll have to make one up and do your own xml, etc if you want to record stuff from your camera. |
| [21:30:30] | Whyvas: | err |
| [21:30:33] | Juski: | Whyvas: it's possible to do, and something I plan to in the nearish future |
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| [21:30:37] | xris: | much easier to just use the default ivtv tools and cat /dev/video0 into files for camera type recordings. |
| [21:30:39] | Whyvas: | what channel would it be? |
| [21:30:50] | Whyvas: | Juski, you're a developper? |
| [21:30:56] | Juski: | no |
| [21:31:10] | xris: | Whyvas: no channels... |
| [21:31:19] | xris: | Whyvas: composite is a single signal. same with svideo |
| [21:31:30] | Whyvas: | yeah that's what I figured |
| [21:31:36] | Whyvas: | so theres no way to access it? |
| [21:31:41] | Juski: | I've got a need for a cctv dvr – one that's better than my current one.. GreyFoxx mentioned earlier that he helped a friend of his cobble it together using fake programme guide data |
| [21:32:19] | Juski: | make a new video source, stuff the db with fake programme info... job done (more or less) |
| [21:32:23] | xris: | Whyvas: you CAN.. it's just that mythtv is expecting tv, with channels, program guide, etc. |
| [21:32:26] | Whyvas: | i want to slap my camera at the front door so I can see who's ringing the doorbell |
| [21:32:32] | Whyvas: | hehe |
| [21:32:36] | xris: | Whyvas: ah, only for livetv? |
| [21:32:45] | Juski: | for livetv it'd be no sweat |
| [21:32:50] | xris: | yeah |
| [21:32:59] | Whyvas: | ? |
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| [21:33:25] | Juski: | just press (or map a remote key to) C to change inputs on the tuner card |
| [21:33:32] | scales: | ok juski i got a question for you, |
| [21:33:44] | Whyvas: | while watching livetv? |
| [21:34:02] | Juski: | yep |
| [21:34:07] | scales: | how can i see more information about a show that i am watching? |
| [21:34:14] | xris: | scales: press i ? |
| [21:34:21] | Juski: | rtfm? |
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| [21:35:02] | scales: | well i mean more like about the show. more than what is shown in the guide or when i press i |
| [21:35:21] | Whyvas: | when i press C it pauses for a second and keeps playing TV |
| [21:35:30] | Whyvas: | do i have to setup the composite0 in the setup? |
| [21:35:38] | Juski: | probably |
| [21:35:54] | Juski: | you don't necessarily have to bind it to a video source though |
| [21:36:00] | xris: | Whyvas: yes |
| [21:36:06] | Juski: | argghh why are they called video sources? programme guide sources yes... |
| [21:36:36] | Juski: | nobody has ever explained that to me, satisfactorily |
| [21:36:47] | gardengnome: | historical reasons? |
| [21:36:53] | Juski: | lol |
| [21:37:11] | Juski: | to confuzzle the noob? hehehe |
| [21:37:14] | xris: | Juski: yeah. I should put a ticket in to get that fixed |
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| [21:37:45] | Whyvas: | xris, it locked up mythtv |
| [21:37:55] | Whyvas: | for source do i put the same source as my livetv? |
| [21:38:08] | Juski: | you could do.. it'd be 'wrong' of course |
| [21:38:09] | Whyvas: | i had setup another one called wireless with nothing in it |
| [21:38:32] | Whyvas: | would it work no matter what channel you set it to start at? |
| [21:38:37] | Whyvas: | or is there a specific one? |
| [21:39:32] | Whyvas: | ugh |
| [21:39:37] | Whyvas: | locked up the whole box.... |
| [21:39:39] | Whyvas: | haha |
| [21:39:58] | Juski: | that shouldn't happen |
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| [21:40:14] | Juski: | something is probably very wrong somewhere |
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| [21:40:40] | Whyvas: | well it bitched when i exited mythtv-setup that something was set to start at a channel that didn't exist |
| [21:40:51] | Whyvas: | this is a fresh install of knoppmyth |
| [21:41:09] | Juski: | ah |
| [21:43:29] | ** Juski imagines the misery the 100 notmyth cds currently sitting on his desk will unleash next weekend ** | |
| [21:43:41] | Juski: | .. and quietly chuckles |
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| [21:45:43] | Whyvas: | i've tried to set it up in gentoo and in xubuntu and it just plain sucks |
| [21:45:50] | Whyvas: | or I suck at setting it up i guess |
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| [21:49:00] | darkfrog: | Hey guys, I set up a second mythbox to connect to my master mythbox and I've gotten everything working except Watch TV....it goes to a black screen, the hard drive works really hard for about five minutes and then mythfrontend dies. Is there anything special I have to do to get the ability to watch tv remotely? |
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| [21:51:31] | Whyvas: | a fast network |
| [21:51:38] | Whyvas: | "fast" |
| [21:52:24] | darkfrog: | Whyvas, it's a gigabit network. :-p |
| [21:52:31] | Whyvas: | too slow man |
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| [21:52:32] | Whyvas: | too slow |
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| [21:52:36] | darkfrog: | hehe |
| [21:52:42] | Whyvas: | hmm |
| [21:52:52] | Whyvas: | isn't livetv only 320x240 ? |
| [21:52:56] | Whyvas: | on regular cable |
| [21:53:06] | darkfrog: | dunno |
| [21:53:06] | xris: | darkfrog: what error do you get on the console? |
| [21:53:18] | gmoore: | i'm still getting my tvtuner set up. i can get sound through XawTV, but not KDEtv. any suggestions? |
| [21:53:35] | darkfrog: | xris, good question...should have checked that already....brb |
| [21:54:49] | Kobaz: | gmoore: i've had similar problems, xawtv doesnt work at all, but xdtv works just fine |
| [21:55:06] | gmoore: | hehe. i get video in both but kdetv doesnt want to put sound out :( |
| [21:55:37] | alsoconfused: | gmoore: the kde app might be trying to use the arts sound daemon |
| [21:55:49] | gmoore: | alsoconfused: whodat? |
| [21:58:30] | Juski: | Whyvas: wth are you talking about? |
| [21:58:54] | Whyvas: | well im sitting in the settings menu and my card is set to 480x480 for recording |
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| [21:59:08] | Whyvas: | and im wondering if im just wasting space |
| [21:59:25] | Whyvas: | and can I set the FPS anywheres?? |
| [21:59:36] | Juski: | if you don't notice any quality improvement from setting it higher than 480x480 I'd suggest you change cable provider |
| [22:00:00] | Whyvas: | it seems for things like hockey games that the quality sucks and you can barely see the puck |
| [22:00:02] | Juski: | FPS will be 30fps for NTSC (29.997 or something) of 25fps for PAL |
| [22:00:16] | Whyvas: | Juski, there's only one cable provider here.... |
| [22:00:17] | Juski: | so increase the bitrate if your system can handle it |
| [22:00:20] | Whyvas: | and im not paying for it |
| [22:00:34] | Whyvas: | so there's not much I can do |
| [22:01:04] | Juski: | move to a country with a better TV standard? :-P |
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| [22:01:18] | Kobaz: | haha |
| [22:01:26] | Juski: | seriously though... software encoding sucks |
| [22:01:54] | Juski: | I tried it once as an experiment.. looked about as good as VHS |
| [22:01:57] | Kobaz: | i pine for the day of hardware divx encoders |
| [22:02:11] | Juski: | I don't |
| [22:02:20] | Kobaz: | why not |
| [22:02:27] | Juski: | divx stinks too.. best quality needs multipass encoding |
| [22:02:41] | Whyvas: | i have the pvr-250 |
| [22:02:46] | Whyvas: | that's hardware isn't it? |
| [22:02:55] | gardengnome: | Kobaz: there is one. some plextor convertx device# |
| [22:03:00] | Juski: | Whyvas: yeh it's hardware. waz the bitrate up some & prepare to lose HDD space |
| [22:03:03] | Kobaz: | true but even single pass divx is going to be alot smaller than mpeg and about the same quality |
| [22:03:13] | Whyvas: | ugh |
| [22:03:17] | Juski: | at the same bitrate, yes |
| [22:03:24] | Kobaz: | yeah |
| [22:03:25] | Whyvas: | i find 1 gig per 30 minutes is enough |
| [22:03:39] | Juski: | oh well. get used to not seeing the puck |
| [22:03:51] | Whyvas: | screw that, i just go back to regular cable |
| [22:04:00] | gardengnome: | hmm |
| [22:04:09] | gardengnome: | maybe interlacing artefacts? |
| [22:04:17] | Whyvas: | how many seconds of delay do you get from livetv? |
| [22:04:24] | Whyvas: | i get like 3–4 |
| [22:04:26] | Juski: | maybe macroblocks |
| [22:04:35] | Whyvas: | i imagine that depends on how crappy your box is |
| [22:04:43] | alsoconfused: | Whyvas: try 704x480 at 4400kbps |
| [22:05:12] | Whyvas: | why |
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| [22:05:35] | alsoconfused: | it looks better than 480x480 |
| [22:05:35] | Juski: | to ummm.. try to increase the quality.. sheesh man |
| [22:05:53] | kormoc: | Whyvas, actually, with the 250, and other hardware cards, it's not really the box delay, as much as it is the mpeg2 stream delay |
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| [22:06:05] | Juski: | 480x480 was the default for my pvr150.. boy that soon got switched up to 720x576 |
| [22:06:20] | Whyvas: | is it that big of a diffrence? |
| [22:06:27] | Juski: | depends on the source material |
| [22:06:30] | Whyvas: | how much space for 30 minutes? |
| [22:06:46] | Juski: | who cares? hdd space has never been cheaper |
| [22:06:53] | alsoconfused: | Whyvas: capture everything there is. when you scale it up you'll appreciate it |
| [22:07:11] | Whyvas: | i havn't spent a penny on this box |
| [22:07:20] | Whyvas: | i get old hard drives from customers at my work |
| [22:07:22] | Juski: | so why are you expecting the earth? |
| [22:07:30] | Whyvas: | im not |
| [22:07:42] | Whyvas: | I asked how much space it takes for 30 minutes at that quality |
| [22:07:50] | Juski: | try it & see |
| [22:08:42] | alsoconfused: | Whyvas: about 1.8 GB at the settings i gave you |
| [22:08:49] | alsoconfused: | Whyvas: per hour |
| [22:08:55] | Whyvas: | ? |
| [22:09:05] | Whyvas: | that doesn't make any sense? |
| [22:09:17] | Whyvas: | mine takes up 2.03gb per hour on 480x480 |
| [22:09:24] | Juski: | _bit_rate_ |
| [22:10:09] | Juski: | you could have 16x16 at a bit rate of 4400kbps and still use the same as 1000x1000 at 4400kbps |
| [22:10:43] | sapbeast: | man i think i need to finally upgrade my ivtv |
| [22:10:53] | darkfrog: | my console is outputting this: 2006-07–18 17:09:33.627 NVP: Prebuffer wait timed out 10 times. |
| [22:11:00] | darkfrog: | when I try to watch tv remotely |
| [22:11:11] | Whyvas: | when i do a channel scan on my composite0 it comes up with the same channels as my tuner0, is that normal???? |
| [22:11:13] | darkfrog: | Can someone tell me how what this means? |
| [22:11:22] | kormoc: | Whyvas, no, that's not normal |
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| [22:11:47] | Juski: | Whyvas: why do a channel scan on a composite input? |
| [22:11:49] | alsoconfused: | Whyvas: there's no tuner on composite0 |
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| [22:12:46] | alsoconfused: | darkfrog: it's starving for data |
| [22:12:50] | Whyvas: | it's set to capture device /dev/video0, input composite0, then I hit channel scan and it scans all the tuner channels |
| [22:13:10] | darkfrog: | alsoconfused, how do I feed it? :-p |
| [22:14:13] | alsoconfused: | darkfrog: i run everything on one box so i'm not familiar with remote streaming but i think it uses either samba or nfs. is that correct? |
| [22:15:04] | kormoc: | alsoconfused, it can, but by default, myth uses it's own way to stream |
| [22:15:11] | Whyvas: | darkfrog, did you set the ip in the mythtv-setup? |
| [22:15:18] | darkfrog: | alsoconfused, recording playback streams, video playback relies on samba, and I'm assuming live tv would stream. |
| [22:15:28] | Whyvas: | not localhost but the outside ip of the box |
| [22:15:32] | darkfrog: | Whyvas, yes, and it plays recordings without any problems. |
| [22:15:33] | kormoc: | to use NFS/Samba, just mount it locally on the frontend in the same path as it is on the backend, and it will pull from there. |
| [22:15:57] | Whyvas: | weird |
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| [22:28:06] | falseeyes: | what's the best remote for mythtv |
| [22:29:52] | kormoc: | falseeyes, I like the Microsoft MCE USB remote |
| [22:29:57] | Juski: | what's the best beer? what's the best car? ;-) |
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| [22:30:29] | Juski: | I like my OFA-6 & lirc_serial receiver, but others may not |
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| [22:32:50] | falseeyes: | I'll check those out, thanks for your suggestions! |
| [22:34:18] | gardengnome: | Juski: karlsberg ur-pils. ;) |
| [22:34:27] | Juski: | find some remotes you like the look of, then find out if they're supported by linux, and consider whether or not they have the amount of buttons you're likely to need |
| [22:34:56] | Juski: | I'm sure some people find those harmony remotes just perfect but I think they're fugly as hell |
| [22:35:23] | Whyvas: | Juski, Moosehead Lager, 911 Twin Turbo. |
| [22:35:50] | Juski: | see.. my point is everyone has different ideas of what 'best' is ;-) |
| [22:35:59] | ** gardengnome is the best. ** | |
| [22:36:11] | gardengnome: | and i'm afraid lot sof people will disagree :) |
| [22:37:48] | Juski: | I'd disagree |
| [22:38:06] | Juski: | you're better than me at being angry though, so touche! |
| [22:38:40] | gardengnome: | really? well, prolly typical german heritage, with all the yelling and stuff. |
| [22:38:55] | Juski: | heh maybe |
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| [22:53:31] | emja: | for some as yet unknown reason my mythtv machine is blanking the screen after 10 minutes. I've run "xset s off", and that the BIOS is not blanking the screen, refs to DPMS have been removed from my xorg.conf, and xscreensaver is not running |
| [22:53:45] | emja: | where else should I look? |
| [22:54:23] | emja: | btw, hitting a button on the IR remote brings the screen back |
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| [22:56:55] | kormoc: | emja, you sure it's myth and not the monitor/tv itself? |
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| [22:57:11] | emja: | TV is 20 years old. ;-) |
| [22:57:18] | kormoc: | fair nuff :) |
| [22:57:37] | emja: | it looks to me like it's myth doing it |
| [22:57:50] | kormoc: | you might want to try to explicitly set DPMS to off |
| [22:57:57] | emja: | where? |
| [22:58:39] | emja: | 'xset -dmps' ? |
| [22:59:15] | gardengnome: | /usr/X11R6/bin/xset s noblank & |
| [22:59:16] | gardengnome: | /usr/X11R6/bin/xset s off & |
| [22:59:16] | gardengnome: | /usr/X11R6/bin/xset -dpms & |
| [22:59:23] | gardengnome: | i think i stole that from wilsonet.com |
| [22:59:52] | emja: | gardengnome: thx. I'll give it a go |
| [23:00:06] | emja: | btw, what is the most appropriate script to put that into? |
| [23:00:21] | gardengnome: | it's .xinitrc for me, but i use startx |
| [23:00:30] | gardengnome: | might be .xsession if you're using an desktop manager |
| [23:01:08] | emja: | thanks |
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| [23:11:45] | Juski: | does anyone happen to have an mplayer .lircrc file for xebian handy? |
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| [23:17:00] | alsoconfused: | Juski: i have one for the grey hauppage remote |
| [23:17:33] | Juski: | not much use.. it's okay I found I have one – just mplayer isn't responding to keypresses on the dvd remote :-/ |
| [23:18:14] | Juski: | thanks for the offer though |
| [23:18:38] | alsoconfused: | no offer, just saying i have one :) |
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| [23:33:29] | sloncho: | hi. nalog capture card/mythtv 0.19-fixes. alsa support is enabled during configure. followed all instructions in the docs. if i unmute the line-in i can hear the sound. but if i mute it – it disapears, which means that the sound is not captured. all possible mixers do show capture on line-in as enabled |
| [23:34:12] | gardengnome: | IIRC, you have to mute linein but raise the volume. |
| [23:34:25] | sloncho: | gardengnome: yes, i did |
| [23:34:43] | sloncho: | the only yhing is that i can not set alsa device on mythtv-setup |
| [23:34:48] | sloncho: | no backend running |
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| [23:35:46] | sloncho: | when i type ALSA:default in the audio device under capture card, it reverts it back to /dev/dsp |
| [23:36:30] | kormoc: | sloncho, after typing it, what do you press? |
| [23:36:44] | sloncho: | kormoc: alt-f |
| [23:37:17] | sloncho: | and when i open again the config page, its /dev/dsp |
| [23:38:31] | sloncho: | actually this is on the slave backend. and the master is still running. do i have to stop it in order to set the slave tuner card? |
| [23:39:28] | kormoc: | what's alt-f do? it's not in the keys.txt |
| [23:39:34] | Dibblah: | Capture cards are all hardcoded to be OSS. No ALSA option. |
| [23:39:40] | gardengnome: | heh. trying to get some logfiles from mythtranscode to file a bug report here. the resulting logfile is 134mb ;) |
| [23:39:54] | gardengnome: | Dibblah: why's that? |
| [23:40:12] | Dibblah: | ... Because noone's bothered to recode it. |
| [23:40:30] | Dibblah: | Since turning off OSS emulation is dumb. |
| [23:40:31] | gardengnome: | ah, k. i thought there was some more technical reason |
| [23:40:54] | sloncho: | kormoc: alt-f is Finish |
| [23:41:13] | sloncho: | Dibblah – so what to do in order to get sound recorded? |
| [23:41:21] | kormoc: | how about, "The admount of time (x) that devs who care have (y) is expressed by X*Y=Z, and Z is less then zero" |
| [23:41:26] | Dibblah: | ... Use OSS? |
| [23:41:31] | kormoc: | sloncho, ooh, nifty |
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| [23:42:17] | sloncho: | Dibblah – it already is set to use /dev/dsp. what else should I do? |
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| [23:42:40] | Dibblah: | Is /dev/dsp the capture device you want? |
| [23:42:44] | sloncho: | OSS support was enabled during the comppile |
| [23:42:55] | sloncho: | Dibblah: yes, it is |
| [23:43:04] | sloncho: | I have only 1 card right now |
| [23:43:10] | Dibblah: | So that should be all you need. |
| [23:43:19] | gardengnome: | ah, that's why you shouldn't use --disable-oss .) |
| [23:43:21] | sloncho: | Dibblah – no sound recorded |
| [23:43:29] | Dibblah: | /dev/dsp will probably be your microphone or line-in. |
| [23:43:42] | sloncho: | ok, so try /dev/dsp1 |
| [23:43:43] | sloncho: | ? |
| [23:43:49] | Dibblah: | Yeah, maybe. |
| [23:43:52] | Dibblah: | What card? |
| [23:44:05] | sloncho: | its some onboard ... sh.t |
| [23:44:19] | Dibblah: | Some bttv things don't actually do audio. |
| [23:44:42] | Dibblah: | You have a loopback cable going from your TV card, right? |
| [23:45:11] | sloncho: | bttv is ref. to the capture, right? i have loopback cable. i can listen to the sound if i unmute linein |
| [23:45:22] | sloncho: | i can watch tv and listen in kdetv |
| [23:45:24] | Dibblah: | Ah. |
| [23:45:31] | sloncho: | just mythtv does not record sound |
| [23:45:33] | Aid`: | sloncho: you need to set the Line-In to Record |
| [23:45:37] | Aid`: | so you CANT hear the sound |
| [23:45:43] | Aid`: | i think |
| [23:45:47] | Aid`: | i ono |
| [23:45:57] | kormoc: | sloncho, the mixer needs to be setup different then kdetv/tvtime/xawtv need |
| [23:46:03] | kormoc: | sloncho, it's covered in the docs |
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| [23:46:38] | sloncho: | kormoc: i did line by line from the docs. i used the commands from commandline from the docs |
| [23:47:08] | sloncho: | u mean these docs, right: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-7.html |
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| [23:47:45] | kormoc: | sloncho, aye |
| [23:47:58] | sloncho: | 1:1, every one instruction |
| [23:47:59] | jarango: | I am going to create a logical volume for mythtv. What command line arguments should I use for lvm programs ? what file system should I use ? What option for formating should I use ? Thanks !! |
| [23:48:33] | kormoc: | jarango, honestly, if you need to ask for a step by step walk-though, you might want to reconsider |
| [23:48:46] | jarango: | <kormoc>: I know the steps |
| [23:48:52] | sloncho: | jarango – what distro? |
| [23:48:56] | jarango: | <kormoc>: I just don't know the best options |
| [23:49:04] | kormoc: | jarango, with lvm, there really arn't any |
| [23:49:05] | jarango: | <sloncho>: debian |
| [23:49:22] | kormoc: | as for the filesystem, I like ext3, but others perfer jfs/xfs/resierfs |
| [23:49:43] | kormoc: | and I like ext3 with mke2fs -j -O dir_index |
| [23:50:05] | jarango: | <kormoc>: What are the prons and cons of ext3 vs xfs ? I heard that to use ext3 you should format with some special option which I don't remember |
| [23:50:19] | sloncho: | jarango: i would reconsider the lvm. not a huge benefit for this setup. after 1 day of doing it on ubuntu, I do not see any gain |
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| [23:50:35] | sloncho: | get a big drive and live with it |
| [23:50:38] | kormoc: | jarango, likely the dir_index option, it's a 'free' speed improvement |
| [23:50:44] | sloncho: | when u get out of space, burn some dvds |
| [23:50:57] | jarango: | <sloncho>: LVM is good for expanding in case I fill up my hard drive |
| [23:51:13] | kormoc: | jarango, the difference is, xfs is faster, but ext3 is used more, and tends to be more stable over power loss issues and what not |
| [23:51:25] | sloncho: | jarango, yes, i know. and thas why i used it, to concat 2 drives. |
| [23:51:29] | kormoc: | jarango, so it comes down to, speed or stability |
| [23:51:30] | sloncho: | but still is a pain |
| [23:51:50] | kormoc: | sloncho, ooh? it's not that bad. the benifit is purely what it gave you, 2 drives as 1 |
| [23:52:08] | sloncho: | yeah, thats why i went trough it |
| [23:52:23] | kormoc: | so what gain were you looking for? |
| [23:52:25] | sloncho: | but ... 2x250 is little bit over :) |
| [23:52:30] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [23:52:45] | kormoc: | there's people on here with over a tb in space in their mythboxes |
| [23:52:58] | kormoc: | hell, at home I have 3x320 gb drives in my desktop system :) |
| [23:53:06] | sloncho: | so, if i did not read about lvm in first place, i would by only one 250g drive and live happy with it |
| [23:53:22] | sloncho: | i like to cleanup from time to time |
| [23:53:22] | kormoc: | and sadly, I'm out of space :/ |
| [23:53:29] | sloncho: | burn what i nedd, delete the rest |
| [23:53:45] | kormoc: | I don't trust burning really, I never can find my disks when I want them |
| [23:54:24] | sloncho: | yeah, if i can make this stupid sound work, maybe i'll start to reconsider and just throw one more disk in :) |
| [23:54:31] | jarango: | can XFS be resized later on ? |
| [23:55:32] | kormoc: | jarango, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems |
| [23:55:36] | jarango: | Can someone point me to the mythtv docs that talk about file system issues ? |
| [23:55:43] | kormoc: | jarango, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xfs |
| [23:55:51] | kormoc: | jarango, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3 |
| [23:56:00] | kormoc: | jarango, you could say, search the wiki and see what it says |
| [23:56:08] | sloncho: | jarango: first – use fdisk and set the partitions u will use as lvm to be 8e |
| [23:56:20] | sloncho: | mark as many partitions as u wish |
| [23:56:42] | sloncho: | then create a volume group – use vgcreate |
| [23:57:02] | sloncho: | add partitions to the group |
| [23:57:06] | kormoc: | sloncho, he already said he knows how to do it |
| [23:57:08] | jarango: | <sloncho>: I planned to creating the physical volume directly over the drive device instead of creating partitions, is this a goood idea ? |
| [23:57:23] | kormoc: | jarango, you need partitions iirc |
| [23:57:29] | sloncho: | jarang- u need to have at least one partition :) |
| [23:57:37] | jarango: | ok |
| [23:57:44] | kormoc: | jarango, due to how DM detects |
| [23:57:51] | sloncho: | also, if this is the only drive, never use it all lvm |
| [23:58:03] | sloncho: | make separate partitions for /boot/swap and / |
| [23:58:06] | jarango: | I don't know yet which FS to use ... |
| [23:58:25] | kormoc: | I'm actually against swap partitions anymore |
| [23:58:28] | kormoc: | there's no need |
| [23:58:37] | kormoc: | swapfiles work just as well, and can be resized on the fly |
| [23:58:39] | sloncho: | xfs looks fastest in manipulating large file – i.e. fits for mythtv data store |
| [23:59:08] | sloncho: | kormoc: still u have a little overhead of the FS access |
| [23:59:17] | sloncho: | until u get to the file |
| [23:59:17] | kormoc: | sloncho, not anymore |
| [23:59:32] | sloncho: | i have to missed something then |
| [23:59:35] | kormoc: | sloncho, the kernel has a new way of doing it, introduced late in the 2.4.x kernel, there is no FS overhead anymore |
| [23:59:58] | sloncho: | anyway, i do not see a reason for more than 1–2G of swap |
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