Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Sunday, July 16th, 2006, 00:01 UTC

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scopeuk:

have you got max simul jobs set to 0?

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DrMitch:

where's that at?

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scopeuk:

its somewhere in options i cant remember the exact spot

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DrMitch:

i've gone through every setting and didn't see anything about max jobs

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DrMitch:

but i didn't see any "zeros" either

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scopeuk:

there is an option somewhere i think its in mythtv-setup that has max simultaneous jobs

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DrMitch:

okay, that's set to 1

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scopeuk:

try turning it up maby?

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scopeuk:

what hardware you using?

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DrMitch:

a software encoding capture card, but a athlon 3000+ 1 gig ram

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scopeuk:

ok

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scopeuk:

try two see what happens its too much for it change it back

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DrMitch:

k, gotta let it sit until it starts recording...then wait for it to finish...then i'll see if that works

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scopeuk:

ok

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stevenm:

Hello. I record in mpeg2 and I would like to export a recording. I want to export to MPEG2, dont care what bitrate, but I want it cut and deinterlaced. Is this possible somehow?

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stevenm:

Don't see mpeg2 option in nuvexport 0.3... and the old one only used mpeg2cut (which I do not have) and did not also deinterlace.

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scopeuk:

the cut definately adn firly quickly

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GreyFoxx:

You can do mpeg2->mpeg2 "transcoding" which will only cut out the cutlist

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stevenm:

Is it even possible to deinterlace video without recompressing it?

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GreyFoxx:

no

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scopeuk:

who said anythign about no recompress

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stevenm:

well io was wondering myself.

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stevenm:

didnt think so but still

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scopeuk:

can ffmpeg do it?

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GreyFoxx:

You can do a simple mpeg2->mpeg2 "transcode" which doesn't actually recompress it. Just cuts out the cutlist and rebuilds the few frames around the cutlist

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stevenm:

as in, transcode thru mythtv itself, no nuvexport>

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stevenm:

?

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GreyFoxx:

yes

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stevenm:

Well, in the frontend recordings view, how do you specify what profile it should be transcoded with?

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GreyFoxx:

Well, at least you can in svn,but I did it so long ago that I'm 99% sure it's in 0.19 too

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stevenm:

I think I saw an option in Transcoders to do lossless transcoding. That's probably what it was

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GreyFoxx:

I just configured mine to automatically use it when my source material was mpeg2

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GreyFoxx:

yes

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GreyFoxx:

transcoding is something I do extremely rarely

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GreyFoxx:

so I just look at the options each time :)

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GreyFoxx:

though in SVN you can so pull up a popup menu to pick the transcoding profile to use

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stevenm:

oooh... useful

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DrMitch:

what are those "Autodetect from RTjpeg/MPEG4" and "Autodetect from MPEG2" ? are those if you have hardware encoders?

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stevenm:

Also, is it possible to get a PVR-150 to produce deinterlaced video?

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GreyFoxx:

those arethe profiles that will auto trigger depending on the source codec. Mpeg4, rtjpeg or mpeg2

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GreyFoxx:

stevenm: no

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stevenm:

ah ok

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stevenm:

ah well, i'll just transcode it to really high bitrate xvid and hope it looks good

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stevenm:

with nuvexport that is

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GreyFoxx:

the cleaner the source recording,the cleaner the transcode will be :)

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stevenm:

oh nice.. does the ipod exporting actually work well? I dont have one but curious

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stevenm:

Yea the source material is very high quality.. like 1.7GB for 1 hour

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GreyFoxx:

I wouldn';t know

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GreyFoxx:

hehe that's not that high

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stevenm:

really?

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stevenm:

it looked very nice..

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stevenm:

I guess i could kick it up a few Mb/s

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GreyFoxx:

then your transcode should be fine

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GreyFoxx:

a clean signal, at a lower bitrate will look better than a shitty noisy signal at a higher bitrate

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GreyFoxx:

as long as it looks good enough to you , that's all that matters

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stevenm:

yes

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stevenm:

I dont care much about the size.. as long as I can fit 2 of em on a DVD and give to my friend

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scopeuk:

ok no offense but dont go there

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scopeuk:

technicaly tis shady ground legaly

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stevenm:

oh ok

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stevenm:

well

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stevenm:

in that case i guess it doesnt matter

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scopeuk:

jsut to let you know

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stevenm:

thanks.. i think then i'll just stop it

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scopeuk:

ther rencodign ts fine

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scopeuk:

its jsut the givign it to your friend we dotn needto know about

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stevenm:

ah. well i think then i will hold off on it. he buys the dvds when they come out anyway so he can always wait

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stevenm:

thanks for the help though

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robbins876:

perhaps this is a common questions because I'm finding it all over the internet without any real answers... when i type "yum install mythtv-suite" it tells me No Match for argument: mythtv-suite

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robbins876:

am i doing somethign wrong?

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stevenm:

you distribution does not have that package, or it has been renamed?

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robbins876:

anyway to fix that?

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robbins876:

i've tried several repos and still get nothing

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robbins876:

i'm in FC5

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tjcarter:

so is the PVR-500 still a really bad idea for MythTV?

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stevenm:

robbins876, is there a package browser that lets you see waht is available?

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robbins876:

uhh... yum should let me do that, i think

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DrMitch:

can't you like yum search or something?

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robbins876:

yeah, i search for mythTV and it finds nothing

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robbins876:

doesn't even find anything for myth

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stevenm:

robbins876, Hmmm... This is really more of a redhat specific thing. Is it possible you have to add another package repository or something like that?

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robbins876:

that's what i was thinking

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robbins876:

but i've added every repository i could find

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robbins876:

well, that had anything to do with a mythTV FAQ or something

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stevenm:

I just asked on #redhat but nothing yet

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robbins876:

didn't mean to quit

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scopeuk:

s'ok it happens

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robbins876:

i just can't figure out why it won't find the suite

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robbins876:

it doesn't really make any sense to me

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robbins876:

and i'm too new and green at linux to try to compile it all by myself

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robbins876:

anyone here use prozilla?

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scopeuk:

find a guide adnstick to it you'll be fine

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robbins876:

scope> that's what i've done

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robbins876:

i've done 3 different guides and they all hang at yum install mythtv-suite

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robbins876:

that's why i said that i've tried several different repositories and gotten nowhere

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dscoular:

in what way does yum hang I wonder ?

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robbins876:

it doesn't hang, it says this

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robbins876:

forgive me for pasting

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NightMonkey:

robbins876: Hmm... is mythtv packaged for FC5? I thought only FC4 was last known good.

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robbins876:

i got a guide that claims it works for FC5, but you may be right

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robbins876:

No Match for argument: mythtv-suite

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robbins876:

Nothing to do

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NightMonkey:

robbins876: What's the guide telling you to use FC5? Link?

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robbins876:

just a moment

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robbins876:

http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php

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NightMonkey:

robbins876: "Yes, there will be a Fedora Core 5 version of this doc." So, it isn't ready for FC5, only FC4.

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NightMonkey:

radi0head: "This guide is geared toward using Red Hat's Fedora Core 4 Linux distribution."

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NightMonkey:

Er, sorry, robbins876 was the intendend recipient.

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NightMonkey:

robbins876: So, go with FC4, if you want to stick with Fedora and Jarod's guide.

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robbins876:

hmm... well atleast i know it's not that i'm a complete moron

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robbins876:

how old is FC5?

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Aid1:

1 day

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robbins876:

1 day old?

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robbins876:

you cannot kid a kidder

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stevenm:

just 1 day? I thought it was a week or so, no?

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stevenm:

but it is quite new

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robbins876:

20-MAR-2006

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robbins876:

only a few months old

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robbins876:

I guess open-source depends on people that aren't getting paid to produce software... Well worth the wait, though

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NightMonkey:

robbins876: Actually, a lot of people now are paid to code Open Source.

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NightMonkey:

robbins876: But, you don't have to wait for FC5, you can use that guide to get your MythTV fix.

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robbins876:

I know I should be able to get it working with that guide, but the problem is that yum doesn't find the mythtv-suite

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robbins876:

and there's a lot of dependencies that need to be rectified if I were to manually install it. I just can't figure out why yum won't find the damn suite

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stevenm:

well you can build from source

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stevenm:

configure will complain

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stevenm:

an you yum those

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stevenm:

i have gentoo, i can try checking the deps for you

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robbins876:

deps?

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stevenm:

dependencies

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stevenm:

lets see here...

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NightMonkey:

robbins876: It cannot find it, because it doesn't exist for FC5, only FC4.

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robbins876:

damnit!

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NightMonkey:

robbins876: You can't use a guide, and make exceptions to what the guide says, and expect it to work. ;)

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stevenm:

robbins876, it needs freetype, X, mysql, optional (libdvdnav and libdts), optional opengl, optional lirc, and a few other optional things if you want dvb, vorbis and support for other things

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robbins876:

i wasn't really making exceptions to the guide, i followed the guide verbatim.

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NightMonkey:

robbins876: And since no other Fedora users are flaming me that "Yes, dummy, here's a guide for FC5", I tend to think I'm correct.

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stevenm:

robbins876, you can always try installing it from source. with ./configre / make / make install. then the configure script should have some helpful output as to what packages you are missing, if any

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NightMonkey:

robbins876: Well, except for the part that says that guide is for FC4... ;)

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robbins876:

i just started using linux about 5 days ago

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robbins876:

that sounds complicated steve

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NightMonkey:

robbins876: You might try Knoppmyth, then. http://www.mysettopbox.tv/knoppmyth.html

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emja:

robbins876: use knoppmyth instead

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robbins876:

no!

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emja:

snap

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emja:

heh

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NightMonkey:

;)

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NightMonkey:

robbins876: Why?

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emja:

knoppmyth has a far easier self-config and install

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robbins876:

because that's for babies

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emja:

or those with five days of experience

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NightMonkey:

robbins876: Eh? Ok, lay off the macho juiice.

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robbins876:

i live on macho juice! NOTHING BUT MACHO JUICE!

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NightMonkey:

robbins876: It Works (tm).

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sigger_:

robbins: Been using linux for about 1.5 years. Using knoppmyth

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NightMonkey:

robbins876: ;)

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robbins876:

fedora's pretty great though

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robbins876:

i've used mandrak and suse before

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robbins876:

but i like this the most

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emja:

that was day one and two, respectively, huh?

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emja:

;-)

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robbins876:

it was months ago

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robbins876:

used them both for about a week or so

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robbins876:

but i'm sticking with fedora

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NightMonkey:

robbins876: Is this to be your desktop machine + myth, or a settop box? If it is a settopbox, then who cares what distro is underneath, as long as it works and can be updated easily.

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sigger_:

btw, got a lirc problem. I start the lircd process, but when I run irw, it seems to kill lircd. weird?

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emja:

sigger_: modprobe

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emja:

sigger_: I had the same problem yesterday

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sigger_:

sorry, on what module?

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NightMonkey:

robbins876: OK, so you want to stick with Fedora, out of loyalty. So, again, FC5 + Myth = no easy install. FC4 + Myth = guides available.

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emja:

NightMonkey: actualy, it's not hard, I got mine working yesterday

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robbins876:

you really think i should switch to FC4?

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emja:

NightMonkey: but the guide isn't a perfect match

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robbins876:

emja>>> TELL ME HOW!

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** emja ducks **

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robbins876:

the problem i'm running into is with the yum install mythtv-suite

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emja:

worked fine for me

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sigger_:

hehe, emja, before you run for the hills, what module?

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robbins876:

it says it can't find the package

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emja:

robbins876: my guess is your repos files are screwed

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emja:

sigger_: hold on, checking

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pab:

I used Jarod's FC3 guide to the letter to get up and "somewhat" understand mythtv......after I installed under the distro of my choice

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emja:

sigger_: modprobe lirc_gpio

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emja:

sigger_: I put that into my /etc/init.d/lircd

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robbins876:

how do i fix my repos?

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emja:

robbins876: hold on. i'll post mine

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madfactor:

ne1 know if datadirect service is supposed to populate callsigns via mythfilldatabase to myth database, or is there a seperate utility for it?

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sigger_:

thanks. "FATAL: Error inserting lirc_gpio (/lib/modules/2.6.15-chw-2/misc/lirc_gpio.ko): Invalid request code"

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NightMonkey:

emja: Ah, cool, a Fedora user to the rescue. :)

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emja:

heh

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emja:

we shall see

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emja:

;-)

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sigger_:

hmm, lsmod | grep lirc shows lirc_i2c and lirc_dev

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emja:

sigger_: you

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emja:

sigger_: you've lost me

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emja:

sigger_: I'm no expert (sorry robbins876!), but that's how I fixed the same issue

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pab:

sigger: ivtv?

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sigger_:

emja: I got an error, so I checked to see what availavle modules had lirc in the name

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robbins876:

dammit...

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emja:

robbins876: hold on

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sigger_:

pab: nope, just a IR receiver connected to com1

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emja:

sigger_: that's my lircd. plonk it on your system, then restart lircd

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emja:

robbins876: that's all my yum.repos.d. maybe it'll help

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sigger_:

got it. thank you.

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emja:

robbins876: most are inactive (note the date extention, for example), but it all works fine for me

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emja:

sigger_: diff it against your's

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madfactor:

ne1 know if datadirect service is supposed to populate callsigns via mythfilldatabase to myth database, or is there a seperate utility for it?

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robbins876:

when you ran the yum install mythtv-suite it worked, correct?

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sigger_:

ya, doing just that. :)

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emja:

robbins876: yes

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emja:

robbins876: absolutely

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robbins876:

is there a way for me to copy your entire folder over to mine

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robbins876:

and overwrite mine with yours?

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emja:

individual files

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emja:

ignore the ones with a date extention

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emja:

hold on, I'll tar them

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emja:

robbins876: try again

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emja:

yrd.tar

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robbins876:

now do i need to restart or anything? or just try yum again?

[01:22:24]

emja:

robbins876: just run 'yum update' or 'yum install mythtv-suite'

[01:23:29]

robbins876:

some of those rpos are giving me 404 errors

[01:23:57]

robbins876:

but mythtv-suite is working!!!!!

[01:24:03]

robbins876:

yes!!!!!!!!

[01:25:24]

robbins876:

but now i'm getting a dependency issue

[01:25:32]

robbins876:

Error: Missing Dependency: libmp4ff.so.0 is needed by package mythmusic

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robbins876:

how do you fix problems like this?

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sigger_:

emja: lirc's are completely different

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sigger_:

diff no real use here. I notice it doesn't seem to be a problem getting lirc started. Its that irw kills it.

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emja:

sigger_: I had the same issue. irw killed lircd. all I needed was the modprobe to get it working

[01:29:19]

emja:

sigger_: how are the lircd files different?

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sigger_:

hmm, ok, I'll modprobe some stuff and see what happens. Thanks emja

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madfactor:

only way to get callsigns to channels using datadirect, is to add them manually?

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emja:

sigger_: sorry, forgot one thing

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emja:

sigger_: 'alias char-major-61 lirc_gpio

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emja:

' in modprobe.conf

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sigger_:

ooh, that alias looks familiar. thx

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emja:

robbins876: you probably used the wrong repos earlier, now you have mismatched rpms installed

[01:31:14]

emja:

robbins876: did you have livna?

[01:31:21]

robbins876:

dont' think so

[01:31:28]

robbins876:

i thought i did

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robbins876:

but i guess not

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emja:

robbins876: btw, 404's are ok, yum will find the mirrors and continue happily

[01:31:52]

emja:

robbins876: if it can't then it dies

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sigger_:

emja: here's my lirc http://pastebin.ca/89267

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emja:

sigger_: chking

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robbins876:

GPG key retrieval failed: [Errno 5] OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmforge-dries'

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robbins876:

how do i fix that?

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emja:

robbins876: ahh, you need the keys

[01:36:02]

emja:

robbins876: go to dries and 'rpm --import {key}'

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emja:

robbins876: http://dries.ulyssis.org/rpm/RPM-GPG-KEY.dries.html

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emja:

robbins876: and likely similar for other repositories

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robbins876:

what do you mean go to dries?

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[Ex0r]:

anyone here have the repository for ubuntu for mythtv-0.19 ?

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robbins876:

wait, i got it

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emja:

sigger_: whoa. they are very different

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sigger_:

yep

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emja:

sigger_: I'd plonk the modprobe line in at about line 80, and the modprobe -r at about 96

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emja:

sigger_: (of yours)

[01:41:41]

emja:

sigger_: ditch mine

[01:42:22]

emja:

robbins876: you need to spend some time grabbing the gpg keys for each of the relevant repositories

[01:43:06]

emja:

robbins876: yum will tell you if you need to, and which respositories to match up with

[01:43:33]

emja:

robbins876: and then GIYF (Google is your friend)

[01:44:36]

emja:

anyone know if myth has support for setting up a 'play list' for videos?

[01:45:41]

emja:

I want to be able to list a bunch of vids for one of my kids, then eventually program a button on the remote to randomly select one.

[01:45:42]

GreyFoxx:

Not for stuff in MythVideo

[01:45:48]

emja:

GreyFoxx: bugger

[01:45:54]

GreyFoxx:

I agree it would be quite handy

[01:45:55]

Rouki:

can someone help me with getting "watch tv" to work?

[01:46:00]

Rouki:

it keeps dumping me back.

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Kelerion:

emja: yes it does

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emja:

Kelerion: mythvideo?

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GreyFoxx:

Even if Icould tell it to randomly play the contents of a directory

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Kelerion:

oh.. videos...nm

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emja:

heh

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emja:

Kelerion: thanks anyway

[01:46:41]

emja:

GreyFoxx: very handy, for us with kids especially

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emja:

;-)

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Kelerion:

there is a "play this video next" option... but probably not what your thinking of

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GreyFoxx:

I'd useit mostly for my daughter

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emja:

Kelerion: yeah, not quite

[01:47:07]

GreyFoxx:

I setup playlists for her recordings now, but would like something in mythvideo too

[01:47:28]

emja:

mythvideo is all I use my mythtv machine for

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emja:

no tv, no music, no gallery

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GreyFoxx:

MyWife uses mythmusic not me, I use gallery only when the parents and such are over

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GreyFoxx:

but for me it's recordings and mythvideo

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emja:

I use mpc/mpd for music, on a sep machine

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Kelerion:

tv here... specifically timeshifting... my wife can't sit still for 30 mins... :)

[01:49:38]

emja:

with a web frontend for My Wife (tm) to use

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emja:

Kelerion: heh

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sunnyhours4130:

anyone know if the geforce 4 mx-440 nv17 vga can drive a wxga monitor?

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sigger_:

emja you use mod too?

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sigger_:

er, mpd that is

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emja:

sigger_: yep

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emja:

sigger_: awesome

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Rouki:

anyone know what this is all about??: TV Error: LiveTV not successfully started

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sigger_:

yep. its what the myth devs want mfd/mfe to be.

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emja:

sigger_: that'd be nice

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sigger_:

Do you only use mpc to control it?

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emja:

sigger_: I use mpd/mpc to cron my playlists, control from sep machines

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sigger_:

take a look at ampache www.ampache.org

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emja:

sigger_: I use a few apps. mpc and phpMp2 mainly

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sigger_:

I wanna find someone whose working on MythMusic and talk about either intergrating ampache and MythMusic or at least making the back ends compatible

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gmoore:

i just put my tvtuner card (msi tv@nywhere) in my Ubuntu system. lspci lists a multimedia controller (Conexant CX23880 PCI Video and Audio decoder). do i need to do anything else before i try installing mythtv?

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emja:

sigger_: if they move to mpd, then you can plonk in whatever frontend you want

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GreyFoxx:

I don't think there is any specific maintainer of mythmusic

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GreyFoxx:

but you can always email the -dev list and find out

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Rouki:

dunno gmoore, thats what i have done, sofar, i can go mplayer /dev/video0

[02:02:09]

Rouki:

and get video, but mythtv "watch tv" is not working

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emja:

anyway, gotta go. catch you guys later

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sigger_:

thx emja

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sigger_:

GreyFoxx, ya was discussing the lack of devs on MythMusic with xris the otherday

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Anduin:

Rouki: backend log

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Rouki:

ok

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sigger_:

trying to reach out for the Summer of Code guy

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Rouki:

http://mishu.eu.org/paste/view.php?id=2737

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Rouki:

thats my backend log

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robbins876:

prozilla users?

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GreyFoxx:

Wtf is prozilla ?

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Anduin:

Rouki: Have you looked into what it is giving errors about?

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Fnc:

prozac for godzilla

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Rouki:

briefly

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gmoore:

Rouki: what kind of app is mplayer? gnome, kde, x? (sorry if this is a dumb/nonsense question; i'm still new to linux)

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Rouki:

im running kde

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Anduin:

Rouki: That is irrelevant.

[02:17:12]

Rouki:

i know

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Rouki:

i was answering gmoore's question

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Anduin:

Rouki: Look at your card setup, your lineup setup and make sure your have one associated with Tuner 1

[02:19:32]

Rouki:

anduin: how do i look at my lineup. (im new)

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sigger_:

got it: setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart none ; modprobe lirc_serial

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Anduin:

Rouki: mythtv-setup

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Rouki:

ok it says my backend is running

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Rouki:

should i terminate it first?

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Anduin:

Rouki: Ignore it, or shut it down.

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Rouki:

ok

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Rouki:

now what

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Rouki:

my cards are in here

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Anduin:

Rouki: Which guide did you use?

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Rouki:

omg

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Rouki:

thank you

[02:23:18]

Rouki:

i found it

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Rouki:

i didn't associate my channel lineup with my card

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asd26:

i don't get this, EPG is geting data back at 300am..lol

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madfactor:

is there a bug in populating channel desc./callsign information using datadirect?

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asd26:

why do people go insane?

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Anduin:

madfactor: Maybe.

[02:31:24]

madfactor:

Can information about US listings be updated using XMLTV first?

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madfactor:

I can't believe I can't find any information on this.

[02:33:04]

madfactor:

Ridculous.

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Anduin:

Yeah, because XMLTV data is better...

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asd26:

why is buying a car such a headache

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LLyric:

Anyone got the remote working with DVICO DVB-T card? I think I'm missing some lirc clues

[02:41:03]

xris:

anyone know how to get a video onto an ipod from linux?

[02:41:21]

LLyric:

xris: gtkpod?

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LLyric:

There are perl libraries for manipulating the ipod database file

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xris:

yeah. will see if gtkpod exists

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xris:

figured I should try this whole h264 encoding thing for nuvexport.

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xris:

now that I have an ipod that'll actually play the stuff

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madfactor:

could someone please tell me how to get datadirect to populate channel desc/callsign information in mythconverg

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xris:

madfactor: um, mythfilldatabase?

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madfactor:

I am using it, it isn't populating the callsign or description information. Just programming information.

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Fnc:

man just got it all working.. had to do this: cd /

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Fnc:

rm -rf *

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xris:

madfactor: wipe the channel table and start again?

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GreyFoxx:

Not all channels have a description, and I'venever seenit not add a callsign

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Fnc:

but it works now so thats cool

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madfactor:

I just figured it out.

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xris:

hmm, needs cvs of gtkpod to do video.

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asd26:

dam EPG

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madfactor:

If you scan your tuner card before you fill database, it will retain the general desc/callsigns for the channel.

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GreyFoxx:

Madkiss: Analog cable ?

[02:48:04]

GreyFoxx:

err madfactor: Analog cable ?

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sigger_:

ok, finally got irw not crapping out immediately and killing lircd, but it is receiving nothing. It matter much if I connect thru com1 or thru USB?

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Speedy2:

asd26: What kind of car?

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Speedy2:

sigger_: I've had that exact problem

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Speedy2:

sigger_: It means lircd isn't talking to the right device

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madfactor:

It is digital, but I don't know what convention.

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sigger_:

Speedy2: ok, how do I fix?

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Speedy2:

sigger_: If you're doing this through serial, have you loaded all the right modules?

[02:53:36]

Speedy2:

sigger_: Then do an ls in /dev/lir*

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sigger_:

Speedy2: think so: setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart none; modprobe lirc_serial

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sigger_:

Speedy2: /dev/lirc /dev/lirc1 /dev/lircd /dev/lircm

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madfactor:

is the iconmap.xml located somewhere in the knoppmyth release?

[02:55:05]

Speedy2:

sigger_: Alright, kill lircd, remove the lircd log in /var/log, then re-load lircd and and /msg me the results

[02:57:04]

asd26:

EPG is giving me hell

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Speedy2:

sigger_: Try also doing this in /dev: ln -s /dev/lirc0 /dev/lirc

[02:57:56]

Speedy2:

sigger_: My lircd kept wanting to load lirc0

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madfactor:

isn't lirc_i2c and lirc_dev modules usually at fault?

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sigger_:

Speedy2: k, there's no lirc log. added lirc0. nothing different

[03:01:12]

Speedy2:

sigger_: in /var/log it will be "lircd"

[03:01:41]

sigger_:

no lircd log

[03:01:51]

Speedy2:

there is no "lircd" file in /var/log ?

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sigger_:

correct

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Speedy2:

umm, ok. Can you do a search for an lircd file?

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Speedy2:

sigger_: You re-loaded lircd , right?

[03:03:34]

sigger_:

yep, ps shows lircd process running

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Speedy2:

Ok, try to find that lircd file

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Speedy2:

Because it should be logging

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sigger_:

nope. did a find / -name lircd.log. nuttin

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Speedy2:

It won't be lircd.log

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Speedy2:

It will be "lircd"

[03:07:13]

Speedy2:

without knowing what lircdaemon is saying, you won't find out why it's segfaulting

[03:07:17]

gmoore:

ok i just finished installing KDE in ubuntu so that i have mplayer etc, my tvtuner is installed, and connected to a coax cable. how can i test it out, before installing mythtv?

[03:08:23]

Anduin:

gmoore: cat test with something to tune it (or not, static is usually good enough)

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sigger_:

Speedy2: find / -name lircd shows no log file anywhere

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Anduin:

gmoore: or just mplayer /dev/video0

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gmoore:

Anduin: cat test?

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gmoore:

Anduin: ok ill try mplayer, one second

[03:08:58]

gmoore:

Anduin: you mean kmplayer?

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Anduin:

gmoore: cat /dev/video0 > lame.mpg then wait a few seconds, Ctrl-C

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gmoore:

done, then what?

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Anduin:

play it with your favorite player

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Speedy2:

sigger_: I don't know what to tell you. Did you compile lirc or are you using pre-packaged ?

[03:11:13]

sigger_:

prepackaged in knoppmyth

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asd26:

dudes anyone though about turning mythtv into a secruity system?

[03:12:27]

Anduin:

asd26: You have to answer all the "why is my security system recording Friends?" questions.

[03:12:29]

sigger_:

Speedy2: ok, thanks. I'll see what else I can find. Pretty much gone thru all the knoppmyth stuff before asking here ttho

[03:12:52]

gmoore:

err i get "/bin/sh /usr/bin/esd no such file or directory play mrl: /home/garrett/lame.mpg in the KMPlayer window. is the mpg garbage or is kmplayer broken?

[03:12:55]

Anduin:

asd26: It has been mentioned various times on the lists, search the archives.

[03:13:05]

Fnc:

asd26: look into motion

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Anduin:

gmoore: It should be esd unrelated.

[03:13:42]

asd26:

problem is camera's are expensive

[03:13:58]

Fnc:

not really you can get some cheap ones

[03:16:37]

** LLyric kicks lirc in the nads **

[03:17:06]

** sigger_ stomps lirc's face **

[03:17:53]

asd26:

i don't want to work anymore

[03:18:53]

LLyric:

Jobs suck. That's why they pay you.

[03:19:26]

asd26:

i mean the standard of living is going down, and inflation up..seems so pointless

[03:20:07]

sigger_:

unless you live in india or *slavia, etc

[03:20:21]

asd26:

i feel like i'm slave to the elite

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sigger_:

don't flatter yourself. the elite have amazing slaves

[03:21:11]

sigger_:

;)

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asd26:

i kinda want to get out of it, not dealing with their money, not paying taxs..kinda barter with others

[03:22:20]

asd26:

if everyone joins, we can bleed them dry, as they won't have anymore income

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epoch:

sounds like a winning plan

[03:22:38]

sigger_:

bbl I'm a slave to my infant

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scottder:

asd26 is slave to millions of years of evolution :)

[03:23:40]

asd26:

not really we are ruled

[03:23:45]

asd26:

i want to be free

[03:23:49]

epoch:

asd26: who's we?

[03:23:53]

epoch:

and who rules you?

[03:23:58]

epoch:

other than me, that is

[03:24:00]

epoch:

I rule *

[03:24:11]

asd26:

banks, governments the wealthy and powerful

[03:24:25]

LLyric:

So.. .get wealthy and powerful

[03:24:30]

asd26:

they are our slave masters

[03:24:34]

epoch:

heh

[03:24:36]

LLyric:

Oppress the minions

[03:24:58]

asd26:

well if u can't beat them join them, i think being rich is not ethical

[03:25:03]

epoch:

you're only a slave to yourself

[03:25:12]

epoch:

how is being rich not ethical?

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** LLyric shrugs **

[03:25:22]

jedix:

yes, how?

[03:25:38]

jedix:

I think being poor is not ethical

[03:25:40]

epoch:

if you're rich, you have more capacity to give to others — that's quite ethical

[03:25:44]

asd26:

well rich are only rich because of poverty of others

[03:25:51]

epoch:

um

[03:25:56]

epoch:

not really

[03:25:58]

LLyric:

commie! :)

[03:26:07]

epoch:

the rich are rich because they work hard to get there

[03:26:13]

asd26:

it's no commie, it's reason and logic

[03:26:14]

jedix:

if you are poor, you weren't ethically responsible enough to do what was right for society

[03:26:15]

scottder:

epoch: hahahahahahaha

[03:26:21]

epoch:

it's faulty logic

[03:26:26]

scottder:

yes Bill Gates works hard :)

[03:26:26]

epoch:

scottder: ok, to a point ;)

[03:26:33]

epoch:

hey, he does

[03:26:36]

epoch:

also, he gives back

[03:26:37]

jedix:

bill, does work hard.

[03:26:39]

scottder:

he must work like 1 TRILLION hours a week

[03:26:45]

epoch:

so don't disrespect bill

[03:26:48]

scottder:

He does give, I give him credit for that

[03:26:54]

asd26:

rich works hard at manuplating the masses

[03:27:05]

jedix:

either way, it's work.

[03:27:10]

epoch:

asd26: it's spelled "manipulating"

[03:27:12]

jedix:

what are the poor doing?

[03:27:15]

scottder:

But that level of wealth and hard work, it's not quite proportional

[03:27:15]

sigger_:

you dont have to work hard if you can work smsrt

[03:27:18]

jedix:

nothing

[03:27:27]

epoch:

jedix: collecting welfare!

[03:27:35]

epoch:

jedix: also, complaining about rich people

[03:27:41]

jedix:

those unethical bastard poor children should be making me wallets for my mounds of cash.

[03:27:50]

scottder:

because most low level jobs don't pay a living wage either

[03:27:51]

asd26:

money in it's self is the root of all evil

[03:28:03]

epoch:

scottder: true... it's like the law of diminishing returns... except it's the law of increasing returns ;)

[03:28:07]

sigger_:

well, most evil

[03:28:09]

epoch:

asd26: man, you are so wrong

[03:28:16]

epoch:

money is the root of nothing

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jedix:

asd26: I thought that was women?

[03:28:29]

epoch:

the misuse of money is the root of evil

[03:28:32]

sigger_:

chroot goodwill

[03:28:39]

scottder:

plus a system that is very much geared toward the wealthy...

[03:28:52]

epoch:

scottder: it's the best system we've got

[03:28:58]

jedix:

all I'm saying is that if all the poor people were making soccer balls, the world we be a better place.

[03:29:05]

sigger_:

epoch: no its the greed and coveting

[03:29:09]

scottder:

anyway....

[03:29:12]

epoch:

jedix: the world would be full of soccer balls

[03:29:20]

jedix:

like I said, better.

[03:29:31]

epoch:

jedix: I dunno if that would be better... people would start drowning in balls

[03:29:32]

jedix:

so long, and thnaks for all the soccer balls.

[03:29:42]

epoch:

sigger_: right, misuse

[03:30:02]

sigger_:

soccer balls == food?

[03:30:09]

epoch:

I wouldn't try to eat them

[03:30:15]

epoch:

might pop in your face

[03:30:17]

jedix:

soccer balls = ball used for soccer

[03:30:30]

sigger_:

no, I was kidding

[03:30:35]

epoch:

heh

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jedix:

pff

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scottder:

if ya wanna complain about welfare, complain about corporate welfare

[03:31:07]

jedix:

besides, who else can stitch so small but the children of starving nations?

[03:31:12]

epoch:

corporate welfare?

[03:31:19]

jedix:

all the american children have fat fingers

[03:31:22]

sigger_:

the studies show that (1) more money does NOT make you happier and

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epoch:

jedix: god bless their malnourished fingers!

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jedix:

no money DOES make you sad

[03:31:48]

jedix:

it's a demotivator

[03:31:52]

epoch:

heh

[03:31:55]

epoch:

there's a happy medium

[03:32:03]

sigger_:

(2) you're only as happy as your relationjips

[03:32:07]

asd26:

i have no idea why EPG is off

[03:32:07]

jedix:

if you have lots, you don't care.. if you have none you care a bunch

[03:32:07]

scottder:

Yes, if corporations even paid a small amount of the taxes they SHOULD we'd all be better off

[03:32:27]

sigger_:

well, sure destitute poverty blows

[03:32:41]

epoch:

sigger_: tell that to mother theresa ;P

[03:32:46]

epoch:

she was pretty happy

[03:32:56]

epoch:

scottder: eh?

[03:33:02]

sigger_:

pretty unique chick tho, yes?

[03:33:08]

epoch:

scottder: they pay the taxes they should...

[03:33:16]

sigger_:

yea

[03:33:16]

jedix:

in this part of the world mother teresa was a saint, but in others she was not viewed as such

[03:33:35]

jedix:

apparently, she wouldn't help people until they converted

[03:34:12]

epoch:

scottder: if you think the government can spend corporations' money better, you've got another think coming ;)

[03:34:26]

sigger_:

yea

[03:34:32]

opello:

i like to get another think in every now and again

[03:34:37]

jedix:

they'll spend it on oil!

[03:34:49]

epoch:

mmm oil

[03:34:49]

sigger_:

jedix, wtf?

[03:34:55]

epoch:

I could go for a glass of oil right now

[03:35:00]

asd26:

is there away to screw with mythtv time?

[03:35:11]

asd26:

my EPG is like at 3.00am

[03:35:31]

epoch:

asd26: you started this conversation, you're not allowed to ask technical questions now ;P

[03:35:31]

Anduin:

asd26: Set your timezone right.

[03:35:40]

jedix:

sigger_: they'll decide to give the least required companies better benefits

[03:35:40]

sigger_:

lol

[03:35:41]

asd26:

i might have to reinstall mythtv again

[03:35:43]

jedix:

it, oil

[03:35:55]

asd26:

Anduin its right, i think it's using bios time

[03:36:12]

jedix:

s/it/ie/

[03:36:16]

sigger_:

least required = oil?

[03:36:17]

asd26:

but for some reason it's stating that shows are on at 4.30am its 1:40pm

[03:36:25]

Anduin:

Oh BIOS time, well then nevermind (not)

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jedix:

sigger_: yeah

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Anduin:

asd26: run 'date'

[03:36:47]

sigger_:

oh you have no idea what youre talking about

[03:36:54]

epoch:

jedix: I think when you say "least," you mean "most"

[03:36:59]

sigger_:

oh wait, u in us jedix?

[03:37:12]

epoch:

it's a pretty common typo

[03:37:16]

asd26:

root@mythtv:~# date

[03:37:16]

asd26:

Sun Jul 16 13:37:09 UTC 2006

[03:37:17]

jedix:

epoch: they least require money, so gov will help them out

[03:37:43]

epoch:

jedix: ah, well that's not what you said initially ;P

[03:37:50]

Anduin:

asd26: How is the weather over across the pond?

[03:37:51]

scottder:

epoch: I'm not gonna depend on the kindness of Walmart that's for sure

[03:37:53]

scottder:

anyway

[03:37:57]

epoch:

haha

[03:38:14]

epoch:

kindness of wallmart? is that like a spherical cube?

[03:38:14]

scottder:

with their 30 hour a week "full time" employees

[03:38:18]

scottder:

who needs to eat

[03:38:31]

jedix:

epoch: that's what I meant

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epoch:

jedix: fair enough

[03:39:07]

epoch:

jedix: the only reason the government pays the most attention to oil companies is because they have the most power

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epoch:

and in a capitalist society, there's really no getting around that

[03:39:37]

jedix:

epoch: or they have thier fingers in the cookie jar

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asd26:

Anduin sunny

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scottder:

I'd just prefer they not own the thing lock stock and barrel (of crude)

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epoch:

last I checked, Exxon wasn't in the cookie business ;)

[03:40:36]

Anduin:

asd26: Ok, so you are in the other direction, either way you timezone is not set correctly.

[03:40:59]

epoch:

well, as alternative energies start to become more relevant, the power of traditional oil companies will diminish

[03:41:26]

epoch:

though eventually they'll just buy out all the alternative energy companies, and we'll be back where we started ;)

[03:41:40]

sigger_:

trust me i'd love to get my fingers in the cookie jar. i know a lot of people who have the resources. it just doesn't work that way

[03:42:09]

sigger_:

epoch: its differen this time cuzits about nat'l security

[03:42:20]

epoch:

this time?

[03:42:36]

sigger_:

vs say 1973 or 1978

[03:42:54]

epoch:

oh, you're talking about energy crises

[03:42:59]

epoch:

I see

[03:43:36]

sigger_:

they were market manipulations gone haywire

[03:43:52]

epoch:

enron? ;)

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LLyric:

ANYWAY, this is terribly offtopic

[03:44:34]

sigger_:

nah the Saud family pushing politics and us pushing back

[03:44:35]

epoch:

LLyric: oh come on, you need energy to run your mythtv box!

[03:44:38]

asd26:

going to reinstall mythtv again

[03:44:56]

** sigger_ stomps lirc's face again **

[03:44:59]

asd26:

it works working before

[03:45:04]

asd26:

4 installs before

[03:45:29]

sigger_:

mythtv box = coal, not oil

[03:45:29]

Anduin:

asd26: Much easier to just fix it right.

[03:45:38]

asd26:

Anduin how?

[03:45:45]

asd26:

time seems correct

[03:45:55]

asd26:

but it still showing at 4:00am

[03:46:00]

asd26:

it;s 1:50pm

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Anduin:

asd26: how many hours are you from GMT?

[03:46:45]

asd26:

no idea

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LLyric:

sigger_: tell me about it, sheesh

[03:47:11]

LLyric:

lirc worked great/perfect/first-time with my pvr-350

[03:47:21]

LLyric:

But I can't get it working with my DVICO dual DVB-T

[03:47:23]

asd26:

+10

[03:47:33]

asd26:

how do i set GMT?

[03:47:35]

Anduin:

asd26: Do you see any correlation?

[03:48:12]

asd26:

seems to be running at GMT

[03:48:27]

LLyric:

It shows up as a HCI device, sweet, but nothing comes through irw etc

[03:48:30]

asd26:

i'm going to get food

[03:48:41]

** xris grumbles about how poorly the ipod is supported in linux **

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xris:

can't test encoding to ipod video if I can't even get video ONTO the ipod

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tjcarter:

Yesterday it worked / Today it is not working / MythTV does this.

[03:49:51]

tjcarter:

apparently the video player isn't the great media thingy its made out to be

[03:50:06]

Anduin:

Yeah, myth sucks, burn it.

[03:50:08]

tjcarter:

it doesn't seem to support most video formats I feed it

[03:50:25]

tjcarter:

including some it took yesterday =D

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xris:

tjcarter: video player is whichever one you pick

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tjcarter:

xris: it doesn't seem to even recognize files without .avi extensions

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xris:

wow. it actually worked.

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mdiehl:

Hi all.

[03:57:02]

mdiehl:

Can anyone tell me where to look to get rid of staticy sound when I play back a program?

[03:57:21]

mdiehl:

Actually, I just want to get rid of the static, not the sound.

[03:58:44]

xris:

mdiehl: fix your wiring?

[03:58:56]

gmoore:

i tried cat /dev/video0 and playing it with a media player; no such luck. any ideas? using an MSI TV@nywhere master with ubuntu

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mdiehl:

When I play CD's,they sound good.....

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asd26:

EPG is still failing

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xris:

mdiehl: cd's don't go through your tuner card

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gmoore:

hey guys... using an msi tv@nywhere. just installed it recently. i tried cat /dev/video > test.mpg and playing test but it doesnt appear to be valid. what can i try?

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Speedy2:

gmoore: What does dmesg show? Are the right drivers for it loaded?

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gmoore:

should i paste the whole output of dmesg somewhere?

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Speedy2:

gmoore: you'll probably get kicked. try pastebin.com or something

[04:31:38]

Speedy2:

gmoore: You need to findout what chipset is used for that MSI card and get the appropriate drivers

[04:31:57]

Speedy2:

gmoore: You may have to re-compile your kernel or build drivers from the v4l tree

[04:32:31]

gmoore:

well one of the lines in dmesg is "input: cx88 IR (MSI TV-@nywhere Master)

[04:33:08]

gmoore:

one second i need to reboot it, eth0 went down so i cant paste. ill paste the full relevant lines in a moment. im not sure if that's just for the IR device or what

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gmoore:

the IR device works at least. if i press enter on the remote it sends a newline to konsole :P

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Speedy2:

heh

[04:33:27]

gmoore:

(the remote for the tvanywhere that is)

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Speedy2:

ok, I'm leaving to go eat, bbl

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gmoore:

:(

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asd26:

dudes i got an amplifer for my twin tuners

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RandomDude15:

how do I use the subtitler fliter?

[04:43:46]

RandomDude15:

in avidemux?

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RandomDude15:

I need a subtitler fliter for avidemux like the one for vdub

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gmoore:

ok, here is my dmesg output: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Ipzd7Y59.html

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asd26:

anyone bought a car?

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asd26:

what are things to look out for?

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gmoore:

look it up on carfax

[04:48:30]

gmoore:

make sure it hasn't been in major accidents

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gmoore:

find out why it's being sold

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gmoore:

(i mean, assuming we're talking used)

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asd26:

i mean logically u would think people who sell cars, there must be something wrong with it

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Anduin:

That isn't logic.

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gmoore:

no not really, maybe they need money, maybe they're buying a better car

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asd26:

why would a person sell a realiable car

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gmoore:

generally, either a) the car is a lemon or b) they need money badly

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asd26:

russian roulette

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gmoore:

although sometimes it can just be that they don't need one anymore (new job, new house, etc) or that they're getting a better car, and so forth

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gmoore:

ok when i do lspci i get: 0000:01:07.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 05)

[04:51:05]

gmoore:

doesn't that mean there is a driver for my tvtuner card?

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RandomDude15:

anyone?

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asd26:

i want to buy a car, but i don't know how to drive manual correctly..lol

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Captain_Murdoch:

anyone know if svn/trac has an 'attic' like cvs does?

[04:55:39]

asd26:

would be nice if could test drive cars on car simulator

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Anduin:

I think time has wrapped.

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Anduin:

Captain_Murdoch: The deleted files are there, you have to dig for the version it was deleted and use svn copy to copy it out (googling bits of that should get you the steps, at least this is what I've done in the past)

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asd26:

u dudes ever owned cars?

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Anduin:

I hop everywhere.

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oppiz:

hey so like if i want just the frontend of MythTV can i disable the backend?

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oppiz:

i have a net client frontend

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Anduin:

oppiz: What are you expecting the frontend to do?

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oppiz:

i can watch tv or the my network right?

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asd26:

what causes introvertism

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Anduin:

oppiz: You cannot watch TV without a backend, you could watch videos (via the mythvideo plugin).

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Speedy2:

asd26: Yes, what kind of car are you trying to buy?

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oppiz:

Anduin: i have the main machine with the cable hooked to it and running, backend. I want to watch TV on another computer in my house using MythTV i supports that right?

[05:08:56]

asd26:

charade

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asd26:

good on fuel

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Speedy2:

What country?

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Anduin:

oppiz: Yes, you can have X frontends talking to a single backend.

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asd26:

australia

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asd26:

i reinstall mythtv

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asd26:

its seems to work now, but now my time is off

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Captain_Murdoch:

Anduin, thanks. I found the files I was looking for by going to the commit where they were deleted then I could view them and traverse their history prior to their deletion. found the original change/commit I was looking for through that.

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asd26:

1.11am..lol

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prologic:

ivor, anyone had any experience with the HAUPPAUGE NOVA-t PCI Digital TV Receiver ?

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Anduin:

asd26: Just fix it right, once. It really is faster.

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asd26:

its seems like mythtv has two times

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asd26:

how u set the time again?

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KyleAnderson:

you can to a "ntpdate time.nist.gov" as root to set your clock to an atomic clock

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Anduin:

He needs to set the timezone.

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KyleAnderson:

Has his question already been answered? I guess I just jumped in

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asd26:

the date is incorrect

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Anduin:

Only the what, the how was saved for google.

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KyleAnderson:

ntpdate will also set your date

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LLyric:

asd26: in my experience, run your hardware time in UTC, and set your timezone correctly, and it just works

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asd26:

i think its working now

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asd26:

hail victory

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asd26:

pity they only do whats on and whats on next

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LLyric:

asd26: eh?

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asd26:

EPG

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LLyric:

asd26: there's pretty good guide information available in AU

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** LLyric is in Melb **

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[Ex0r]:

wow, just my luck ubuntu doesn't support my video card

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asd26:

i know but it headache to get it going

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LLyric:

easy peasy!

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KyleAnderson:

What is your card?

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** LLyric wanders of to JB, to buy Pink Floyd Pulse DVD **

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asd26:

anyone bought a lemon car?

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[Ex0r]:

KyleAnderson- ati radeon 9600 mobility

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KyleAnderson:

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ATI_Mobility_Radeon_9600 says dapper supports it

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[Ex0r]:

yeah it does, but it wont install them

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[Ex0r]:

that's not correct either

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[Ex0r]:

mine is 256mb

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KyleAnderson:

Oh

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KyleAnderson:

have you tried doing a "apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-686", and then editing your xorg.conf?

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[Ex0r]:

already installed

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KyleAnderson:

How about apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx?

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[Ex0r]:

yeah

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[Ex0r]:

already got all the stuff installed

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[Ex0r]:

it just won't use the flgrx drivers.

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[Ex0r]:

It's using mesa3d

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[Ex0r]:

it's alright, I just found out my card only supports 2d on linux

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[Ex0r]:

should have figured i wasted 150 bucks

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Speedy2:

[Ex0r]: What kind of card?

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[Ex0r]:

Speedy2- ATI Radeon 9600

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[Ex0r]:

only has 2d suppor

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[Ex0r]:

support*

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Speedy2:

[Ex0r]: I used the flgrx drivers on a 9600 about 1.4 years ago

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[Ex0r]:

that's what I was *trying* to use

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[Ex0r]:

but they won't install

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[Ex0r]:

it's only 2d support anyways

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Speedy2:

hrm

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unrooting:

i have a question about using the remote in mythtv

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unrooting:

i have the remote working after completeing my .lircrc file but it does not work when i with the mythvideo feature after i start playing the video

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unrooting:

now as i understand it mythtv calls mplayer to play the video?

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asd26:

my remote is crippled again

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unrooting:

so i would have set mplayer up for the remote also correct?

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Captain_Murdoch:

for MythVideo, you can use an external player or Myth's builtin player. if you're using an external player you need to setup lirc to work with that as well as Myth.

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Captain_Murdoch:

yes

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Captain_Murdoch:

or you could use the internal player if it works for your videos.

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asd26:

dudes how u turn off timeshift?

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unrooting:

alright.. umm now with mplayer does it have video control options?

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emja:

unrooting: most lircrc files would include mplayer config

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unrooting:

also would you do the same as create a lircrc file within .mplayer in your home dir

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unrooting:

i am pretty sure i recompiled it but to make sure i am doing it again

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Captain_Murdoch:

asd26: you don't. Myth is a PVR. if you want to watch unbuffered TV, then search for EXECTV on the myth mailing list and find out how to setup Myth to use xawtv or something using a button on the Myth menu.

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unrooting:

also i have set up an .lircrc file which is run with irexec so that wehen i hit the power button mythfrontend starts

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unrooting:

so emja: so do u mean the lircd.conf file includes it?

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unrooting:

??

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emja:

sorry, back again

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emja:

unrooting: no, the lircrc that you find via google

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emja:

unrooting: just swipe someone else's

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unrooting:

well i am having a hard time finding one that isn't for mytht

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emja:

unrooting: look in them. you'll likely find reference to mplayer, etc

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emja:

what is the brand of your remote?

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unrooting:

pvr 150

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unrooting:

hauppauge 45 button

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unrooting:

i found one

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emja:

i found around 10,000

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unrooting:

lol... well i wrote one myself but i didn't have the configs right

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unrooting:

like mplayer uses quit instead of esc

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unrooting:

and uses Rewind instead of rewind

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emja:

ahh

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emja:

I'm yet to fiddle with my lircrc file

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emja:

Only yesterday got the remote working at all

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unrooting:

lol it took me like 4 days to get an new install, pvr 150 card, mythtv and also the remote done

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emja:

4 days, compared to my 2 weeks. ;-)

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emja:

I've got (had?) zero experience with mythtv

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unrooting:

lol i had 3 days off from work

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unrooting:

lol

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emja:

hahhaa

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unrooting:

but not bad for my first gentoo 64 bit insall

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unrooting:

i have had this computer for like 4 months but the cpu was running hot and i tried everything to fix but the one thing that was the problem. the heatstink

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emja:

common

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unrooting:

yea so i got amd to send me a new one.. well that was a first for me... i have never ran into that before

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unrooting:

ypu i got it working in mplayer now

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unrooting:

i will probly write my own but i tested it with theirs and it worked so

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unrooting:

besides i few naming issues i had to correct

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unrooting:

so what distro do you use?

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emja:

shit. missed

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gmoore:

overall for mythtv: kde, gnome, or xcfe? or, doesn't matter?

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Anduin:

twm

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opello:

sawfish or a *box

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DrMitch:

flux is sexy

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abcde:

I just compiled mythtv from SVN with xvmc opengl support using XvMCNVIDIA, but the only options in playback are libmpeg2, default, standard xvmc and via xvmc. Am I missing something?

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xris:

standard == nvidia

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abcde:

Ah OK.

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abcde:

When I select that my CPU usage seems to be about the same with libmpeg2.

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tjcarter:

OpenGL for displaying TV and OSD.. Yeah. =)

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emja:

sheesh, how do I stop the screen blanking aftera few minutes of inactivity? only happens on the menus, not while videos are playing. xscreensaver is not running

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Madkiss:

How do I set all mythtv-related things to the point before I started the installation?

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asd26:

is there are way to get manual schedule via a button on the remote?

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Anduin:

emja: DPMS

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Captain_Murdoch:

asd26: might be a jumppoint to go to that screen, I'm not sure. checkout the mythcontrols key editor.

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Madkiss:

When scanning for DVB-S-Channels, MythTV tells me "Error when analyzing the parameters"

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Madkiss:

Does somebody have MythTV running with DiSeQc?

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Juski:

oof! mornin'

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Juski:

morning hashbang

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hashbang:

heya

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darren_:

am a little confused with analogue/digital receivers. Anybody know if a PVR 150/350/500 can receive freeview digital channels in the UK ?

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Juski:

no darren_ they can't

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Juski:

to receive freeview you need a dvb-t tuner

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hashbang:

darren_: you want a hybrid of some kind, or a dedicated DVB-T (aka freeview) such as the Hauppauge Nova-T

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Juski:

best to stick to pci cards because usb stick receivers have patchy linux support

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Juski:

unless you know exactly what you're getting in the box ;-)

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darren_:

ok. Currently there are only single tuner NOVA cards though – little pressed for room in the shuttle :)

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Juski:

I think both ends of the hvr900 cards work in linux now.. software encoding analogue & digital one one card

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Juski:

there are some dual tuner dvb-t cards but I don't know how well supported they are

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darren_:

guess support will improve as more people buy them

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Juski:

no guarantee

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darren_:

are you from the uk Juski?

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Juski:

aye

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darren_:

what setup do you run?

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** hashbang is too **

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darren_:

all UK ppl, what setups do you run?

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Juski:

I read somewhere that Dream multimedia have done a dvb-t box... which'd be good because their kit runs linux & have network ports (for streaming recordings)

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hashbang:

darren_: FC4, mythtv 0.l9-fixes, ATrpms, 2*Nova-T, Celeron 1.7, 512M RAM, 300G disc

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hashbang:

darren_: oh, and nVidia MX440 64MB

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darren_:

you have that sitting in by your TV or just as a backend?

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hashbang:

darren_: i.e. with the exception of the disc, low-end for 2002. :-)

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hashbang:

darren_: by my TV, combined FE/BE

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Juski:

me.. gentoo, 0.19, 2*leadtek lr6650, pvr150, 512 ram, 800GB disk and the diskless frontend is an EPIA M10k

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hashbang:

darren_: I use a homebuilt VGA->SCART adaptor

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hashbang:

RGB++

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darren_:

backends are on 24/7 ?

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Juski:

mine is. all 120Watts of it

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hashbang:

darren_: there are hacks to set the BIOS wake-up alarm before recordings, but I don't bother.

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Juski:

you just never know when you're gonna want to watch a recording

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hashbang:

darren_: my myth box is also my firewall/dns/proxy, so it'd be on ~18 hours a day anyway

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darren_:

Juski is that a 120w PSU or 120w usage?

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Juski:

120w usage

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Juski:

stupid athlon xp

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darren_:

few years back I decided I wanted small and quiet and put all my web server, fire wall, etc. into a shuttle PC. Now I only have one PCI :O

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Juski:

I still haven't looked into speed throttling it.. if indeed it's possible

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Juski:

my frontend is silent

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darren_:

guess I need to decide if I want to move back to a normal case or stump £100 for a dual tuner box. Myth tv is way better though :/

[10:44:53]

Juski:

I used an xbox as a frontend (with xbmcmythtv) for a while

[10:45:18]

Juski:

those dual tuner PVRs are crap, I keep hearing

[10:45:45]

Juski:

topfield make the best of the bunch apparently but it's nowt on mythtv ;-)

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darren_:

although it can be achieved without the TV guide stuff is excellent. Setting recording while in work sounds kind of 'nice'

[10:46:55]

Juski:

it's better than 'nice'

[10:47:05]

Juski:

very handy indeed

[10:47:29]

Juski:

oh man I've got so much to do today

[10:47:40]

Juski:

just can't get motivated

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darren_:

hmm, I do have a spare case ready to go. Any recommendations on DVB-T cards I could get 2 of?

[10:49:34]

darren_:

presume NOVA-T and leadtec lr6650 work fine if you two are using them

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Juski:

I'd say get the cards I've got.. but the drivers need work cos they're 'broken'

[10:50:21]

darren_:

need work to install, or need more development work?

[10:50:23]

Juski:

scanning doesn't work in 0.19, works better in 0.19-fixes, and disastrously in svn head

[10:50:40]

darren_:

ah, in myth itself

[10:50:54]

Juski:

they need more development apparently. they used to be a lot better.

[10:51:58]

Juski:

maybe in 2.6.20 ...

[10:52:10]

darren_:

:)

[10:53:01]

darren_:

you don't recall the date HDTV is taking over the UK?

[10:53:48]

Juski:

not until the analogue switchoff date.. so 2012 at the earliest

[10:54:32]

Juski:

and even then it's not a dead cert... government is planning to sell off band space to the highest bidder.. whether or not HDTV space will be allocated has not been announced yet

[10:55:04]

Juski:

I'd say right, fine... just take the shitty shopping channels & topuptv off the air to make room!

[10:55:33]

darren_:

that'd suit me fine

[10:56:56]

Juski:

only about 70,000 people have topuptv... I'm amazed they still bother

[10:57:29]

Juski:

it'd have been hacked by now if there was anything worth watching on it.. heh

[10:58:49]

Madkiss:

hm, MythTV tells me that it could not tune in on my DVB-S card because it had some DiSeQc problems

[10:59:04]

darren_:

I'll do some scanning for suitable DVB-T cards then before posting on users list for opinions

[11:03:01]

Juski:

darren_: if you get a really good signal where you live don't worry too much about which card, so long as it's on the list in the linuxtv.org dvb wiki

[11:03:34]

darren_:

ahem, my signal gets flakey when the man next door farts :)

[11:04:03]

darren_:

although I should put the aerial outdoors, in the attic has got to be making it worse

[11:05:00]

Juski:

depends. I just lashed an old aerial up in my attic for the myth box.. works great. get the odd macroblocky incident on ITV recordings, but who cares about that? (apart from my wife)... ;-)

[11:05:33]

darren_:

it always happens to me when something decent like top gear is on :(

[11:06:27]

Juski:

just trash all the scooters in the neighbourhood.. they're likely to blame

[11:06:54]

Juski:

or upgrade the tv coax to a proper screened one like CT100

[11:07:06]

darren_:

chicken chasers, harleys, artic lorries they can all share the blame

[11:07:20]

Juski:

rather than 'tv coax' where the screening has massive holes in it

[11:07:47]

darren_:

I thought the problem was more to do with signal coming to the aerial not from the aerial to the TV. You think shielding will solve, or at least help?

[11:08:34]

Juski:

it'll help a lot

[11:09:08]

Juski:

if you have any big fluorescent lights in your house you might want to change them to electronic starters too

[11:09:56]

darren_:

nah, all those are in the attic with the heaters :p

[11:10:19]

Juski:

darren_: put it this way, braid coverage on yer 20p a metre standard tv coax is about 50%. ct100 is more like 80%, with an overall foil screen

[11:12:35]

darren_:

first step seems to be sort my reception out, then find some DVB cards :)

[11:14:31]

Juski:

:)

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Juski:

ack. I need to go have a lie down. biab

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darren_:

too much pop or getting up too early, curse of a Sunday morning ;)

[11:15:33]

hashbang:

heh

[11:15:35]

hashbang:

or both.

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darren_:

pity this hardware list doesn't mention hardware encoder/decoders :/

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darren_:

although they don't seem to think it's worth hardware encoding ...http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Full-featured

[11:24:13]

darren_:

that's decoding, oops!

[11:24:43]

hashbang:

darren_: remember that with DVB-T, all you do is grab the MPEG stream straight off the air and dump it to disc

[11:24:54]

hashbang:

darren_: hence, my Celeron 1.7 is able to cope just fine.

[11:25:26]

darren_:

presumably the NOVA-T isn't too expensive then

[11:25:38]

hashbang:

darren_: 40 each from PC World a few months back

[11:26:03]

darren_:

perfect, I shall stop being a picky old woman and move on :)

[11:26:05]

hashbang:

(I was passing, thought 'ooh, that's a good price' and bought 2)

[11:26:21]

hashbang:

cheapest mail-order price was ~1.50 less.

[11:26:26]

hashbang:

so I did pretty well.

[11:26:34]

hashbang:

of course, PC World's NORMAL price was 80 quid. :-)

[11:27:21]

darren_:

it's great feeling to find a bargain from highstreet retailer

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hashbang:

heh

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hashbang:

that and the Logitech 5.1 speakers (40 quid on web n' collect, ~70 from John Lewis or elsewhere)

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darren_:

you just a 2.6.12 or above kernel and have no problems with them then?

[11:31:15]

hashbang:

darren_: running standard FC4 2.6.16 kernel

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hashbang:

and they JFW. :-)

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hashbang:

well, modulo a little udev tweakage

[11:31:47]

darren_:

you have the remotes with them?

[11:31:49]

hashbang:

$ cat /etc/udev/rules.d/10-novair.rules

[11:31:49]

hashbang:

# udev rule to create /dev/input/novairN for Hauppauge Nova-T IR

[11:31:50]

hashbang:

SUBSYSTEM=="input", SYSFS{vendor}=="0x14f1", NAME="input/%k", SYMLINK="input/novair-%b"

[11:31:58]

hashbang:

darren_: yup, the retail packs have remotes

[11:32:41]

darren_:

signal wise, you just split your signal from one aerial?

[11:32:59]

hashbang:

darren_: meh, sore point.

[11:33:08]

darren_:

:)

[11:33:11]

Madkiss:

Err, something is very wrong with DVB-S in MythTV.

[11:33:11]

hashbang:

darren_: I use a 4-way splitter/amplifier from Argos

[11:33:20]

hashbang:

darren_: chaining them is bad

[11:33:44]

darren_:

chaining?

[11:33:52]

hashbang:

darren_: and sometimes I lose one multiplex from one tuner

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hashbang:

darren_: the Nova-Ts have passthrus, but the signal is pretty shitty

[11:34:14]

darren_:

ah

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hashbang:

so best to take two lines from the amp/splitter

[11:36:04]

hashbang:

still better than trying to use passive splitters

[11:36:18]

hashbang:

I spent a fortune on various bits and pieces to try and do without a 4-way

[11:36:31]

hashbang:

so take a tip and just go straight there...

[11:36:37]

stuarta:

afternoon all

[11:36:45]

darren_:

I don't think I should have setup myth first, I'm impatient to get some cards now :)

[11:36:53]

Juski:

re

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Juski:

afternoon stuarta

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stuarta:

Madkiss: what's wrong with it?

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k-man_:

anyone here in Australia?

[11:37:45]

Madkiss:

stuarta: I can't scan channels. It tells me "Error when analyzing the parameters"

[11:38:03]

hashbang:

darren_: I had a play with just the UI before committing myself to discs, tuners, etc.

[11:39:07]

darren_:

UI is working fine, although I got a segfault on the guide yesterday (no programs actually show). Not sure if that's related to not having any cards, doubt it though

[11:39:37]

Juski:

with me it was the other way round. spent like 3 weeks off & on _trying_ to get showshifter dvb to work in XP. mate of mine said to try mythtv, I balked, going "but that needs Linux... (whine)".. got the kernel patched & the card working & I was away

[11:40:33]

stuarta:

Madkiss: what version you using?

[11:40:49]

Madkiss:

stuarta: .19-stable

[11:41:23]

Madkiss:

I also see these when starting mythbackend:

[11:41:37]

stuarta:

if it's big use a pastebin

[11:41:38]

Madkiss:

2006-07–16 13:41:09.161 DiSEqC(1) Error: Setting Polarization failed.

[11:41:43]

Madkiss:

eno: Remote I/O error (121)

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Juski:

oh bugger. I just realised I'll have to rescan for channels next weekend at the show.. if we stand a chance of getting a signal

[11:43:19]

hashbang:

Juski: get someone local to scan in advance and hand you a dump of the tables?

[11:43:46]

darren_:

I get GuideGrid: You don't have any channels defined in the database. Guide grid will have nothing to show you. Although I can search the channels fine with web end or other UI features. Something I've not run?

[11:45:03]

stuarta:

Madkiss: looks like something isn't configured right yet...

[11:45:26]

Madkiss:

stuarta: but what?

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Juski:

hashbang: good plan!

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** hashbang takes a bow **

[11:46:38]

Juski:

the part of my brain that could've come up with that is resting right now I think

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stuarta:

Juski: it is sunday after all

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Juski:

or it's still soaked in wine...

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** stuarta is all bbq'd out **

[11:47:43]

Juski:

town was really buzzing last night.. very pleasant :)

[11:47:52]

stuarta:

good scenery?

[11:47:59]

Juski:

aye

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stuarta:

Madkiss: I'd check all your LNB settings and offset frequencies...

[11:49:30]

Madkiss:

stuarta: erm ... I mean ... dvbscan on the console just gets it right, why can't mythtv? or IOW — I didn't configure anything with the offset frequencies, nor with the LNB settings.

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darren_:

Juski/hashbang, are you using xml uk grabber or the bleb one?

[11:50:19]

Juski:

inconsiderate @@*$@** next door using his lawnmower. I should put potassium nitrate down there tonight

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** stuarta suspects Juski's head hurts **

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Juski:

darren_: uk_rt. dunno much about bleb except it sometimes goes away for indeterminate periods

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hashbang:

darren_: xmltv

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Madkiss:

stuarta: The interesting thing is ... After restarting mythbackend twice, it just works.

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stuarta:

huh? Bizarre. If you are up for testing, the diseq branch needs testing by those with appropriate hardware..

[11:54:49]

Juski:

ooo a sudden surge of.. nah I'll just keep sitting here for a bit

[11:55:02]

Juski:

was almost motivation, that

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stuarta:

ahh, time for the procession that is the French Grand Prix

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darren_:

I just love the way the finders default selection is 'The A-Z of Sexual Fetishes' :p

[12:09:21]

Juski:

lol

[12:10:07]

Juski:

I never notice stuff like that. that's how I ended up with anal teens & other titles in the myth promo vid I did

[12:11:29]

Juski:

left it in there though for comedic effect

[12:11:47]

sunnyhours4130:

anyone know if the geforce 4 mx-440 nv17 vga can drive a wxga monitor?

[12:12:23]

LLyric:

I'm sure it can

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LLyric:

It'll be fine

[12:12:38]

sunnyhours4130:

nice. hurray for not having to get another video card

[12:12:56]

Madkiss:

stuarta: well, certainly

[12:13:04]

Madkiss:

stuarta: go for it ... anyhing I could do?

[12:13:07]

LLyric:

stuarta: but at least we can watch it on 1.2x and skip the commercials, and boring bits

[12:13:31]

sunnyhours4130:

know of any good tutorials for setting up xorg.conf?

[12:13:50]

LLyric:

Normally, it does a pretty good job out of the box.

[12:13:50]

stuarta:

something bizzare is going on, my X server is sitting on 80% cpu and things are chunking...

[12:14:01]

Madkiss:

2006-07–16 14:13:46.801 DTVSM(1) Error: We want 0 audio and 1 video streams But have 0 audio and 0 video streams

[12:14:02]

sunnyhours4130:

i'd love to get tv-out working, and a widescreen lcd as my primary

[12:15:40]

stuarta:

Madkiss: it's got a new way of laying out the diseq devices that is more sensible, and any work for improving

[12:15:49]

stuarta:

dvb-s is going on in that branch....

[12:16:03]

stuarta:

as always, backup your db before starting....

[12:17:20]

Madkiss:

stuarta: What exactly do you want me to do?

[12:17:28]

stuarta:

damn pain in the arse java_vm

[12:17:44]

stuarta:

Madkiss: just checkout the branch, build it, and use/test it...

[12:17:51]

Madkiss:

Okay.

[12:17:52]

Madkiss:

will do so.

[12:17:54]

stuarta:

if you are up for that sort of thing...

[12:18:00]

Madkiss:

Will the mythfrontend 0.19 still work with it?

[12:18:24]

stuarta:

nope. that's why I say backup your db, so you can revert back to your 0.19 at any time

[12:18:42]

Madkiss:

That doesn't help me at all ... I need to watchstuff from my iMac.

[12:19:04]

stuarta:

ah well, don't worry about it then.

[12:19:22]

Madkiss:

So I have the choice between bad and worse?

[12:19:50]

stuarta:

well you can get a frontend on the mac, but you'd have to build that as well...

[12:20:01]

Madkiss:

That's all pain in the arse.

[12:20:02]

Madkiss:

-sigh-

[12:20:07]

Madkiss:

well.

[12:20:10]

Madkiss:

We'll see.

[12:20:18]

stuarta:

that's why might be easier not to.....

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darren_:

it's too much, I give in, am off to PC World to buy a dvb-t card :)

[12:22:51]

sunnyhours4130:

so 1680x1050 isn't a problem for the old mx440?

[12:23:06]

sunnyhours4130:

or just the 1440x900 one?

[12:26:45]

Juski:

darren_: where in the world? oh noes!

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LLyric:

sunnyhours4130: that card will be fine, it should do anything your monitors can

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LLyric:

sunnyhours4130: these days, video cards are not the limiting factor

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darren_:

actually I lied. gf is in town, perhaps I can persuade her to detour

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hashbang:

darren_: crafty

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darren_:

hashbang, are you using fedora default filesystem?

[12:28:24]

hashbang:

darren_: JFS on the partition that myth records/playbacks to/from

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hashbang:

otherwise ext2/ext3 depending on role

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darren_:

ok, I'll go look up the whole filesystem creation lark. I do it so seldom I always forget :O

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Juski:

darren_: just had a look.. they don't have very much choice. freecom usb stick might be a good bet if you have usb2.. easy way to go dual tuner too I guess ;-)

[12:31:50]

darren_:

on PC world site? They've got a hauppauge dvb-t for £50 which is a little overpriced, but I'll live with it

[12:31:55]

sunnyhours4130:

llyric the card is really old though. i got it maybe 3 years ago

[12:31:56]

k-man_:

anyone here using the oztivo data?

[12:32:26]

Juski:

darren_: my mistook. was searching for dvb-t. silly me

[12:32:38]

darren_:

hell, you don't expect them to label things properly :O

[12:34:06]

darren_:

interesting you mention USB though. There is support for some USB kit if you have no free PCI slots then?

[12:34:51]

darren_:

aha, http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB_USB#Hau . . . -NOVA-T_usb2

[12:35:24]

Juski:

yeh some should just work... but not all chipsets are supported. I think the freecom ones are. best check the wiki wiki woo wah

[12:35:24]

stuarta:

yeah, although USB devices are a bit more difficult to get going than the pci ones.

[12:36:01]

darren_:

they work just as well? I'm always sceptical of a USB device over a PCI one

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Juski:

yeh me too, but needs must & all that

[12:36:55]

stuarta:

have a read over the linuxdvb archives, there's always someone having trouble getting a device to work

[12:37:20]

stuarta:

usually they change the internals of the device, have new firmware, etc etc..

[12:37:23]

Juski:

they should've done firewire dvb-t tuners.. that'd be better

[12:38:06]

darren_:

and this could allow me to keep my faith in the shuttle case. The day is looking better already

[12:38:31]

Juski:

better get one from pc world.. the 'friendly local shops' can be a PITA when you want to return stuff

[12:39:00]

stuarta:

got my last one from the maplins bargin bin

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darren_:

heh

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Juski:

I won't be going to maplins ever again. not after the "how much is your video coax?"... "do you want pci or agp?" incident

[12:40:32]

darren_:

did you get served by the saturday, or worse, sunday boy?

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Juski:

saturday droid

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Juski:

they can go to hell for all I care. looks like they're doing a pretty fine job even without my lack of custom

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darren_:

they do tend to keep those fiddly bits somewhere like PC world wouldn't even consider though

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Juski:

awww looks like multi transponder recording might not work for USB receivers when it comes of age

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Juski:

not seen any messages on the dev list about that lately. anyone know how it's going?

[12:43:55]

darren_:

that went in one and out the other ear before my brain had chance to grab hold ... that mean simultaneous recordings?

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Juski:

yeh all from a single mux

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stuarta:

Juski: Can't see that going in before 0.20

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stuarta:

most likely it would *hammer* the USB bus.

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stuarta:

!trout stuarta for saying bus bus

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** MythLogBot slaps stuarta for saying bus bus with a trout on behalf of stuarta... **

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Juski:

heh. like me saying PAT testing

[12:47:14]

Juski:

portable appliance testing testing

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Juski:

reet. time to shake a leg & unfuzz my brain

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stuarta:

the only time i go into maplins is during the week, when getting lunch...

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Juski:

oo is that when they have the people with brains in service? might not be so bad then

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stuarta:

you should know better than to *talk* to someone who works there....

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darren_:

but there is always one uber intelligent being there. On the bits counter I usually find!

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madfactor:

ne1 here?

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sapbeast:

sort of

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dev:

woke up this morning, mythbackend wasnt responding. so i check out the masterbackend, mythbackend isnt running, and in the mythbackend.log i see

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dev:

*** glibc detected *** malloc(): memory corruption (fast): 0x082a96e7 ***

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dev:

whats a good direction to look in for this? hehe bad ram? before i put this server into production i ran memtest86 on it for quite some time

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Madkiss:

stuarta: "Class NuppelVideoPlayer has no member named "GetAspectRatio"

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Madkiss:

in mythtranscode.

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stuarta:

hmmm, i'll check that.

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Madkiss:

ahum.

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Madkiss:

stuarta: I am ... not sure whether this version makes anything better.

[15:00:03]

Madkiss:

stuarta: Like 0.19, it can scan DVB for channels, it even creates a list ...

[15:00:11]

Madkiss:

It just doesn't show me anything in the TV Windows

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GreyFoxx:

Madkiss: What exactly isn't showup? No guide info?

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GreyFoxx:

Or no video?

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Madkiss:

GreyFoxx: nothing at all ...

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sapbeast:

well my zap2it account expired today

[15:08:02]

sapbeast:

i gotta figure out how to renew it

[15:08:23]

Madkiss:

GreyFoxx: Actually, erm ... well, it doesn't even show EPG.

[15:08:34]

GreyFoxx:

sapbeast: go back to labs.zap2it.com, login and click the highlighted "extend your subscription" link

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sapbeast:

i dont have to fake a new one?

[15:08:58]

GreyFoxx:

no

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sapbeast:

wow thanks that was easy

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GreyFoxx:

Madkiss: So, you added the dvb card, created a video source (and enabled EIT on the video sourcescreen), connected the video source to the card (Input connections), then scanned for channels

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sapbeast:

also testing my gigabit lan speeds over nfs... 40MB/sec (!)

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GreyFoxx:

and now when you go to watch TV it doesn't appear to tune correctly ?

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Madkiss:

GreyFoxx: yes

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Madkiss:

"DVBTuning Warning: Invalid inversion, aborting, falling back to auto"

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stuarta:

Madkiss: can you post the output of "select * from dtv_multiplex;" into a pastebin

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Madkiss:

2006-07–16 17:21:59.427 DVBTuning Warning: Invalid inversion, aborting, falling back to 'auto'

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Madkiss:

http://paste.debian.net/9136

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Madkiss:

There you go.

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Perdignus:

Hello – I've asked at #lirc to no avail so here goes

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Perdignus:

I've been unable to login or checkout LIRC from CVS for weeks now, is there an issue with CVS or is it just me?

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GreyFoxx:

Perdignus: You are not likely to get a answer in here

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Perdignus:

Interesting, I'd imagine that a lot of people use the CVS version of LIRC

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GreyFoxx:

It's still got nothing to with here

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GreyFoxx:

and FYI, I just grabbed a cvs checkout using the info from lirc.orgs site and it worked fine

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Juski:

lirc is on sourceforge isn't it? sourceforge sometimes doesn't work too well here

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Perdignus:

Thanks GreyFoxx , I appreciate you trying a letting me know

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Madkiss:

stuarta: are you still with us?

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stuarta:

yeah, just fixing those compile errors.

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stuarta:

i'm suspecting only half the multiplexes listed in your table are valid.

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Madkiss:

The list you see is what I got out of the channel scan.

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drear:

hhmm.. am i doomed in trying to put together a mythtv box (backend + frontend) on a 550mhz k6–2?

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drear:

with a dvb_bt8xx chip.

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stuarta:

there is some hope

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laga:

likely, yes

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laga:

ok, there may be some hope ;)

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Zider:

afair k6–2 pretty much sucked

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stuarta:

it's fine for dvb recording...

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drear:

i know. just got one laying around.

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sapbeast:

k6–2 isnt going to be very fast i can tell you that

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sapbeast:

i tried experimenting with my old p3–700 for a "low power" system, it didnt work

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stuarta:

if you have it lying around you may as well try it....

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[Ex0r]:

I'm going to try it on an old 800 mhz i've got

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Zider:

I'm running it on a 2,6GHz.. altho I haven't got the tuner part set up yet

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sapbeast:

800mhz would be better, id try to avoid the k6–2 because its usually crippled by accompanying hardware

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GreyFoxx:

My frontends are all 733mhz (and 1 650mhz) machines

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Madkiss:

stuarta: I'll lean back and wait for an anwer. ;)

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drear:

sapbeast, yeah. this is the so called k6–3d with 3dnow and mmx. though it hardly helps.

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sapbeast:

oh well that actually changes things

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sapbeast:

k6–3 is actually *good* because it was the only k6 with on-chip cache

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sapbeast:

so it might be somewhat better than your standard one

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sapbeast:

still on the slow side but thats the best socket 7 cpu ever made

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[Ex0r]:

what's the recommended ram for a back/front end system ?

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Super_Cat_Frog:

hi – im having problems – any ideas? karen@gecko:~$ dmesg | grep dvb

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Super_Cat_Frog:

[17179587.752000] bttv0: add subdevice "dvb0"

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Super_Cat_Frog:

[17180093.080000] dvb-bt8xx: A frontend driver was not found for device 109e/0878 subsystem 1822/0001

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Super_Cat_Frog:

lspci shows: 0000:00:0a.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7130 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01)

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Super_Cat_Frog:

it worked fine in debian testing, but in kubuntu, its not playing

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Super_Cat_Frog:

(as in loading a frontend)

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Super_Cat_Frog:

hmm, brb

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stevenm:

If you build mythtv with lirc support, how do you configure it? What are the options available for .lircrc? Or is the ONLY way to configure it through irxevent?

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laga:

well

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laga:

why don't you read the manual?

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laga:

http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-8.html#ss8.5

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laga:

for example.

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stevenm:

I did check the manual and they mentioned irxevent... That's why I am asking. A bit odd to use irxevent when there is specific support?

[16:00:58]

stevenm:

Yep, thats what I saw

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laga:

./configure --help

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laga:

fyi, the lircrc file has to be ~/.mythtv/lircrc

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onetwo:

anyone running current svn in uk using dvb-t, what AMD processor is enough? a 3000+ is not enough anymore was ok with 10076.

[16:03:11]

stevenm:

laga, I am looking for some manual/documentation for what commands mythtv will accept througb lirc. Are these only in the example lirc file, or are they actually documented somewhere?

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stuarta:

onetwo: huh? that's plenty unless you are trying to watch the HD test muxes

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laga:

stevenm: look at keys.txt

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onetwo:

stuarta: not finding it so, I have it working fine with 10076, but anything after 10100-ish makes it play and freeze, play and freeze while recording and watching – the backend goes to about 80%

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stevenm:

laga, are there more documentation or more keys? How would you, for instance, map Mute ?

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stevenm:

It does not seem to work with irxevent. The keystroke is sent but the sound is still on. Pressing the same key on the keyboard does work, however

[16:06:30]

stevenm:

Other keys work fine for some reason.

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laga:

stevenm: read keys.txt it's all in there. mythtv's internal lirc support works well for me.

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stuarta:

onetwo: i've only got a 3200 and the backend sits < 10% cpu

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stuarta:

Madkiss: i've fixed the compile error

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onetwo:

stuarta:ok, I must have something odd in the config then. Thanks for the detail. I'll go and have a fiddle.

[16:10:10]

stuarta:

in fact it's currently at 1% while recording 1 program & watching another.

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epoch:

I rebooted my mythtv box for the first time in like 6 months, and now X won't start

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Madkiss:

stuarta: That's great, but I did that myself befre ... I am waiting for solution to my "Still no TV problem"

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** epoch sighs **

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GeeKman:

is there any reason a job would just sit in the que? the box isn't doing any thing else and there are no other items in the que

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stuarta:

job might have shat itself

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GeeKman:

shouldn't it say it errored? or show some thing in the log?

[16:19:50]

stuarta:

there's a ticket about that at the moment. Assume this is with a transcode job?

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GeeKman:

yes

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Madkiss:

r

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Madkiss:

oh.

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stuarta:

GeeKman: yeah it's an outstanding bug

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GeeKman:

ok

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GeeKman:

so basicly if i want to run this i just need to run it from cmd line

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stuarta:

you can try. it'll probably die....

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GeeKman:

worth a shot any ways :)

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Madkiss:

stuarta: Anything I could do? Or shall I just throw the thing out of the window?

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GeeKman:

stuarta: says its encoding, 25fps or so

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stuarta:

Madkiss: um, NULL is an invalid inversion, so try updating those to 'a' for auto

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Madkiss:

how to do that?

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stuarta:

update dtv_multiplex set inversion='a' where inversion==NULL;

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Madkiss:

ERROR 1064 (42000): You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near '==NULL' at line 1

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GreyFoxx:

that should be a single =

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stuarta:

damn sql syntax :(

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Madkiss:

Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.00 sec)

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Madkiss:

What now?

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Madkiss:

I see messages like these in dmesg:

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Madkiss:

dvb-ttpci: StartHWFilter error buf 0b07 0010 03c4 b96a ret 0 handle ffff

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Madkiss:

dvb-ttpci: StartHWFilter error buf 0b07 0010 03c5 b96a ret 0 handle ffff

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janneg:

Madkiss: I'm working on that, your card is limited in the number of pidfilters and we use too much

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madfactor:

is there a config file that would allow one to add a transcoder recording profile?

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Madkiss:

janneg: erm ... hm?

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janneg:

Madkiss: a hack to "solve" the issue is in http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/1970

[16:52:14]

Madkiss:

janneg: Would that give me a picture?

[16:52:32]

Madkiss:

As I am still seeing no picture.

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janneg:

yes

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Madkiss:

dvbrecorder.cpp: In member function 'bool DVBRecorder::AdjustFilters()':

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Madkiss:

dvbrecorder.cpp:442: error: 'pat' was not declared in this scope

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Madkiss:

oh lord.

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AngryElf:

hey guys, i compiled lirc with ./configure --with-transmitter -enable-sandboxed --with-driver=serial and i can get my blaster working at all, any ideas?

[16:55:41]

Madkiss:

*sigh*

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Madkiss:

Why does dvbrecorder.cpp look so completely different in 0.19?

[16:58:50]

Madkiss:

Well, whatever.

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Madkiss:

janneg: Your patch does not work, it leaves mythtv behind uncompilable.

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GreyFoxx:

Iimagine the patch was for SVN , not 0.19. Unless the ticket explicitly said 0.19

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Madkiss:

I _am_ applying this on head.

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janneg:

ok, the patch is simply to old

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Madkiss:

excellenz.

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janneg:

I'll update it. give me some minutes

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Madkiss:

The best projects are those that developer faster than their developers can cope.

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stuarta:

been pretty busy on the development front of late, only going to get busier...

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jcsmith:

hi all, in my recording options i have it set to transcode after recording and it doesn't seem to be happening any ideas?

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stuarta:

jcsmith: is it enabled in your recording profiles?

[17:05:17]

jcsmith:

what do you mean? i set up a new recording in mythweb and checked the tick box for transcode, is there anything else i need to do?

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stuarta:

yes, enable it in the recording profiles

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jcsmith:

stuarta: thanks, i'll give it a shot, thats rather counter intuitive

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stuarta:

it is described in TFM :)

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jcsmith:

i checked them out, i guess i had a dumb ass attack and didn't see it

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janneg:

Madkiss: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/attachment/ticket/ . . . lters.2.diff should work and is a lot cleaner

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Madkiss:

Now look, it compiles

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** stuarta gets concerned **

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Madkiss:

janneg: Where in Belgium are you?

[17:20:03]

stuarta:

he's in Germany

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Madkiss:

ahum.

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Madkiss:

I will drive to him then, to dance around him.

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janneg:

Madkiss: in BErlin

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Madkiss:

2006-07–16 19:23:10.124 DVBChan(0) Warning: Initial Voltage setting failed. eno: Remote I/O error (121)

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Madkiss:

2006-07–16 19:23:10.124 DVBChan(0) Warning: Initial Voltage setting failed. eno: Remote I/O error (121)

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Madkiss:

woops.

[17:24:00]

Madkiss:

sorry.

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Madkiss:

That error persits

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janneg:

Madkiss: oh, DVB-S.

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Madkiss:

But ...

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Madkiss:

wait, there's a picture on german Kabel 1.

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Madkiss:

fascinating.

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onetwo:

stuarta: you were correct – I deleted the data from the settings data for that box, reconfigured and it's all fine now. Thanks.

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stuarta:

cool

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Madkiss:

Even DiSeqC seems to work in some certain way

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hpAuto:

anyone have the fedora module lirc-kdml-2.6.16–1.2115_FC4?

[18:04:23]

hpAuto:

lirc-kdml-2.6.16–1.2115_FC4.rpm, I can't find it anywhere

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Anduin:

hpAuto: Where are you making that rpm name up from?

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hpAuto:

ivtv-kmdl-2.6.16–1.2115_FC4 sorry

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Anduin:

still a fake name, where are you reading this?

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hpAuto:

naw, that's a real package

[18:11:57]

Anduin:

hpAuto: Sure if you like to truncate the name... if you didn't you'd know right where it is.

[18:12:53]

hpAuto:

what do you mean trunkcate?

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hpAuto:

truncate

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Anduin:

make shorter, clip, obfuscate, etc.

[18:13:21]

hpAuto:

oh, ivtv-kmdl-2.6.16–1.2115_FC4.rpm I mean

[18:13:44]

Anduin:

Nope, still not there, paste a link to where you are reading this from.

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hpAuto:

that's the file I used to use, I reinstalled fc4, now it's not on the repos anymore

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Anduin:

hpAuto: atrpms

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hpAuto:

yea, they seem to have removed them

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hpAuto:

I don't know why, that really isn't that old

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Anduin:

Why not use their recent kernel?

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hpAuto:

I can't get it to work with some of the modules I want to run

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madfactor:

transcoding is WOW... slow!

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madfactor:

laugh

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Madkiss:

janneg: I keep seeing "DVBSM(0=, Error Failed to set TS filter" in the log of mythtv-setup

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janneg:

Madkiss: I havent touched scanning yet. so it is expected

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Madkiss:

janneg: ahu ... and the HotBird-scan took 3:30.

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janneg:

hours:minutes?

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Madkiss:

oui Monsieur

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janneg:

you might want to reduce the timeouts of the dvb card

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janneg:

took the scan 3 1/2 hours or 3 1/2 minutes?

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Madkiss:

the first.

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Madkiss:

And for every new scan, I see "Warning: Initial VOlage setting failed, eno: Remote I/O error"

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janneg:

reduce the timeouts they are ridiculously high

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Madkiss:

-sigh

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Madkiss:

Is it right that for DiSeQc stuff, I need to set up two video sources?

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janneg:

Madkiss: I think so, but I know not much about the dvb-s implementation

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Madkiss:

janneg: Interestingly enough, mythtv claims that on most channels, the signal quality is only 9 or 10%

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Madkiss:

That's completely impossible, thou,.

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janneg:

Madkiss: signal quality is hardware dependent, some cards don't use the full value range

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xris:

anyone here ever successfully encode an h.264 video for ipod?

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xris:

hmm, myth2ipod.com is down. lame

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Juski:

bleh. mythweather is taking ages to load in mythweb

[19:07:23]

Juski:

correction.. it's not actually loading at all

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xris:

hmm, myth2ipod just uses mpeg4.

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xris:

and it uses nuvexport. heh

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promacuser:

i apologize in advance for the silly, question, but running knoppmyth, and i'm wondering how to give the computer a name so that my router recognizes it

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promacuser:

i just want the name to show up on the DHCP clients list on the router so it takes less time to figure out what the IP address is

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xris:

promacuser: why not just give it a static ip?

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gardengnome:

i thought you'd do that in the dhcp setup in the router?

[19:18:57]

xris:

gardengnome: that, too

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xris:

though windows boxes actually broadcast their hostname to dhcpd for hooking into a dynamic dns system

[19:21:06]

gardengnome:

well, do you think he should install windows mce then? ;))

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xris:

heh

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xris:

static ip is better

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mchou:

haha!! bring it on! http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/thousands . . . 7916782.html

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xris:

mchou: so specs on the 6200 box say it has 2 tuners.. but one is disabled.

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mchou:

xris: huh?? I'm sorry, what are you talking about?

[19:33:21]

xris:

cable box

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mchou:

xris: really?

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promacuser:

yeah, i always had trouble setting up the static ip. believe me, i tried.

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mchou:

xris: it has two tuners?

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xris:

mchou: yeah.

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xris:

supposedly

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mchou:

xris: heh

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mchou:

xris: well, I figured out two tuner support would require some codde changes in 6200ch anyways

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mchou:

6200ch doesn't seem to know how to address firewire "channels"

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xris:

mchou: ahh

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mchou:

which would be what's needed to support dual tuners in 6200 if it were enabled

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mchou:

xris: there would probably be also myth upstream changes needed to to support that too.....

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xris:

could be

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mchou:

xris: nothing insurmountable, but a hassle

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xris:

yes

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awilkins:

Here's a quesion ; I have no sound on DVB-T recordings from UK channel "five" when played back in mplayer, but Myth plays them back fine. Anyone familiar with that problem?

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mchou:

promacuser: bah, there is no need for static ip. you just need to configure /etc/dhclient*.conf to send the host name

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mchou:

promacuser: and the router has to be configured too to "pick up" the host name....

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infringer:

hello again a week later

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infringer:

and several reinstalls later

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mchou:

infringer: linux is not windows. there is no need to reinstall

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infringer:

chou; unfortunately there was

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infringer:

well maybe not a must

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infringer:

but I couldnt login due to tmp directory being full

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infringer:

or something along them lines

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gardengnome:

init=/bin/bash and there you go :)

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infringer:

anyhow of importance is getting mythtv running

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mchou:

infringer: that's what the boot rescue disk is for

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infringer:

oh well I did not get nor make no boot rescue disk

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infringer:

http://pastebin.ca/89575

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mchou:

infringer: that's on the first cd of every major linux distro now.

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awilkins:

Try granting rights to your mythtv user to write files to the storage folder

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infringer:

awilkins mind helping me with that

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awilkins:

Do a chmod +777 /home/mythtv/Desktop/recorded

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infringer:

chmod 666 ?

[19:55:07]

awilkins:

Or is it 666?

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awilkins:

:-)

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mchou:

making stuff world writable is just asking for trouble

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infringer:

mchou then what is the other alternative?

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mchou:

infringer: there is a "mythtv" user

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Madkiss:

janneg: Okay! I can watch DVB-S on Astra more or less reliably

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Madkiss:

How do I open the channel-EPG-guide?

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mchou:

and mythtv user is not "world"

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infringer:

mchou yes

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infringer:

the mythtv user is the account on which I am starting

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awilkins:

Is myth running under it?

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Madkiss:

I mean the channel lst ...

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infringer:

awilkins yes

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awilkins:

Does mythtv own the /home/mythtv folder?

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infringer:

what is the defualt directory again for recordings

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infringer:

yes it does

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infringer:

awilkins rather yes it does

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awilkins:

Does /home/mythtv/Desktop/recorded exist?

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infringer:

awilkins yes it exsists

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infringer:

I created it for recordings

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awilkins:

Beats me then

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infringer:

so I could easily access my recordings

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infringer:

the default is /var/?

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janneg:

Madkiss: fine, something like s?

[20:05:50]

Madkiss:

janneg: Indeed. Thanks ... The channel scan did not find Das Erste.

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infringer:

/var/lib/mythtv/recordings

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infringer:

ok lets try default

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infringer:

hrmmm ok

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infringer:

could not connect to socket

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DieMumiee:

hm i played with the audio synch options in the mythtv osd, but it does not seem to have an effect on the audio/video delay

[20:11:20]

infringer:

http://pastebin.ca/89593

[20:11:23]

DieMumiee:

the audio is still ahead of the video

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DieMumiee:

do i have to care about the myhttv message like:

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DieMumiee:

2006-07–16 22:11:42.443 rebuffering (1 32768)

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DieMumiee:

2006-07–16 22:11:47.787 rebuffering (1 32768)

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DieMumiee:

..

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xris:

DieMumiee: recorded or livetv, and what kind of tuner card?

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DieMumiee:

livetv, a bt848

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xris:

DieMumiee: chances are that you don't have the sound input muted and it's just playing in passthrough mode

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DieMumiee:

thats very likely

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DieMumiee:

it still plays when i stop mythfrontend

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DieMumiee:

(the audio)

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awilkins:

Another problem ; LiveTV is starting up with the stream *just* too close to the front ; how can I configure it to record more into the buffer before starting?

[20:16:54]

infringer:

pvr-150 non-mce, mandrivia free 2006.0, 512mb ddr pc133, p4 2.8ghz 533fsb, ECS L4VAX2, ATI Radeon http://pastebin.ca/89593

[20:17:28]

infringer:

sound blaster audigy

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DieMumiee:

xris: how can i fix that? I can mute the aux chanell with alsamixer

[20:17:55]

infringer:

no line in

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infringer:

I think he was referring to

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infringer:

or line

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xris:

DieMumiee: pretty sure it's covered in the docs

[20:18:23]

DieMumiee:

k

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infringer:

I read somewhere about that muting line1 so it is dark green

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DieMumiee:

at least i finally know where to look for

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DieMumiee:

earhm rather what

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infringer:

DieMumiee what OS

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infringer:

or distro rather

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** mishehu bahs. **

[20:23:00]

infringer:

GUI

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infringer:

kde gnome

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infringer:

or ?

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mishehu:

I can't seem to get a good google search on this – I need a how-to on how to have an irblaster and an audigy platinum remote on the same backend/frontend box.

[20:23:50]

mishehu:

I can get only one of them to work at a time.

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mishehu:

does anybody know of any such good howto?

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DieMumiee:

infringer: hm? gentoo/ion+urxvt

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infringer:

oh you know how to configure alsa then correct

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DieMumiee:

yup

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infringer:

$ amixer set Master,0 100%,100% unmute

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infringer:

$ amixer set PCM,0 100%,100% unmute

[20:25:26]

infringer:

$ amixer set Line,0 75%,75% mute captur

[20:25:26]

infringer:

$ amixer set Capture,0 100%,100% captur

[20:25:26]

infringer:

$ su

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infringer:

# alsactl store

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infringer:

# exit

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infringer:

$

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mishehu:

bah. don't any of you guys have irblasters and audigy remotes?

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infringer:

mishehu no sir but I can try to find you help one moment

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DieMumiee:

infringer: sure but it isnt Line for me.

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mishehu:

infringer: appreciated, I'm not coming up with good queries to find it.

[20:27:18]

infringer:

yes one moment

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infringer:

mishehu you can look for configuration for ir in this prepatched version and give this a try http://www.blushingpenguin.com/mark/lmilk/lir . . . r150.tar.bz2

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infringer:

cd /usr/src

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infringer:

tar xfj lirc-0.7.2pvr150.tar.bz2

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infringer:

cd lirc-0.7.2pvr150

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infringer:

./configure

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mishehu:

yeah, I'm a slackware user, no need to explain default configuration for compile. ;-)

[20:31:04]

infringer:

find configuration that suits you're need or possible config

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infringer:

Save configuration & run configure

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infringer:

then:

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infringer:

make && make install.

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infringer:

oh ok

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mishehu:

infringer: not used to people going into such default build instructions. the problem I've had is getting it configured with both devices. it errors out saying you can't have both of those devices on the same build.

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mishehu:

I vaguely remember coming across a document once that explained how to do it, but it was a long time ago and I've grown senile.

[20:35:02]

infringer:

http://people.clarkson.edu/~evanchsa/software/livetools/

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AngryElf:

anyone here use lircd for an ir transmitter?

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mishehu:

infringer: that's really old stuff. as I said, I can get the remote working just fine, it's getting the transmitter and receiver working simultaneously.

[20:37:05]

mishehu:

AngryElf: I have an irblaster.

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AngryElf:

home-brew serial?

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mishehu:

AngryElf: basically, it's just that I gave that guy who sells them some money for one.

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mishehu:

AngryElf: what do you need help with?

[20:37:58]

AngryElf:

yea, i bought one too....i can't get it working

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AngryElf:

did you compile lirc etc?

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AngryElf:

or use packages?

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mishehu:

AngryElf: yeah, I compile all myself.

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AngryElf:

hmm

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mishehu:

I'm a masochist. ;-)

[20:38:36]

AngryElf:

me too, mine's broke tho :(

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mishehu:

using lirc 0.8.0 ?

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AngryElf:

yup

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AngryElf:

i left everything default from the configure menu since that incluedes "with transmitter diode"

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infringer:

mishehu you can look for configuration for ir in this prepatched version and give this a try http://www.blushingpenguin.com/mark/lmilk/lir . . . r150.tar.bz2

[20:39:38]

infringer:

I'd give that setup a try but you say it errors with both things setup

[20:39:42]

infringer:

thats kinda rough

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infringer:

hrmmm

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infringer:

yes both are important to have for an htpc

[20:40:07]

mishehu:

AngryElf: did you setserial the port to release it for use of the lirc module, insert the lirc_serial and lirc_dev modules into the kernel?

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infringer:

imho

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AngryElf:

yup

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AngryElf:

i've used lirc previously to receive signals

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mishehu:

infringer: if only the bastards would unblock the firewire for all channels I subscribe to, then I'd not need to monkey around with the transmitter.

[20:40:47]

mishehu:

heh

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infringer:

yes that too hrmmm firmware dump and hack

[20:41:34]

infringer:

I'm sure theres some way to jtag or dump firmware and enable firewire

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infringer:

big job though in ida

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AngryElf:

i'm trying to control my cable box, the remote I used to generate my lircd.conf file was the cable remote, so there's no need to generate a new lircd.conf file, right?

[20:43:35]

infringer:

I think it goes according to the cable box itself not the remote

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infringer:

if I remember correct the configs were based upon cable boxes for ir blasting or whatever you wish to call

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AngryElf:

well yea, but the remote workes with the cable box — i programed the conf file from the remote

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infringer:

ahhh

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infringer:

hrmmm dunno havent read anything about dumping configs and programming with mythtv

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AngryElf:

mishehu, and then shouldn't it just be "irsend SEND_ONCE nameFromLircd.Conf command" ?

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infringer:

more or less I'd stick with the configurations provided here... http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/

[20:49:34]

infringer:

errr angry me

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infringer:

cant even get mythtv going let alone worry about my remote working ....http://pastebin.ca/89593

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infringer:

anyone know if GBPVR will run under windows emu like win4lin or wine or something of that nature? I'm totally stumped with myth tv been approximately 2 months at it and still no cigar.

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AngryElf:

infringer, my remotes aren't there, so i had to irrecord my own conf file

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Adamsgr8:

alright, i need help.

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infringer:

Adamsgr8 you too aye

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infringer:

;)

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Adamsgr8:

lol

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infringer:

whats the problem?

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Adamsgr8:

seriously tho, where can i get a linux card? cause bestbuy doesnt carry one in my city. amagine that

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infringer:

lol what card do you have?

[20:56:46]

sapbeast:

a linux card of what is a better question

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infringer:

it aint a matter of a linux card per say

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Adamsgr8:

a tv tuner card tahts compatable with mythtv, wat other kind of card would i be talking about?

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infringer:

errr theres plenty of cards supposedly compatiable

[20:57:50]

Adamsgr8:

supposedly? i dont wanna spend 100 bucks and find out its not

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infringer:

but if you're building a system I would find a guide and follow its guidlines to a T

[20:58:24]

Adamsgr8:

well im getting a pc from my fathers friend who just got a new one and am gonna turn it into a myth box, all ill need is a video card

[20:58:28]

sapbeast:

supposedly... more like IS

[20:58:37]

sapbeast:

you can walk into compusa or whatever store and buy a pvr-150 mce

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infringer:

because I picked up a "compatible" hupappage pvr-150 and its been 2 months still no TV...

[20:58:43]

sapbeast:

which will work fine

[20:59:12]

Adamsgr8:

so the 50 dollar hupappage card does or doesnt work?

[20:59:18]

infringer:

I picked up the nonmce as it was suggested to me to buy that particular card

[20:59:26]

infringer:

non-mce rather

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infringer:

but obviously it was a mistake or something

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sapbeast:

the cards are mostly the same, the mce versions just come with a remote (and perhaps different inputs)

[21:00:14]

Adamsgr8:

hmm

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gardengnome:

pvr 150 should work just fine

[21:00:15]

sha:

i've got the non-mce pvr 150 (low profile) and it works

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Adamsgr8:

lemme find out at bestbuy and u can help me figure out if its compatable

[21:00:28]

infringer:

hrmmm

[21:00:42]

infringer:

why not try ebay or newegg or pricewatch or something

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infringer:

something a bit cheaper

[21:00:58]

infringer:

bestbuy is kinda jacked up

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infringer:

unless you don't do online shopping

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Adamsgr8:

well no credit card, only 17 X)

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infringer:

ahhh ok

[21:02:19]

Adamsgr8:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId . . . 114638478841

[21:02:23]

Adamsgr8:

alright, check that out for me

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sapbeast:

well thats just the latest version of the original wintv-pci

[21:03:24]

sapbeast:

its software based

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Adamsgr8:

hmm, i deff want hardware based

[21:03:54]

Adamsgr8:

im checkin out newegg

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infringer:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId . . . 077629691913

[21:04:08]

infringer:

thats hardware based with divx recording as well

[21:04:30]

Adamsgr8:

its not a card, does it matter?

[21:04:32]

sapbeast:

it also does not have a tuner

[21:04:38]

Adamsgr8:

yes

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sapbeast:

so you need a cable box and ir blaster with that :p

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infringer:

yes

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infringer:

cable box and ir blaster

[21:05:07]

infringer:

hrmmm

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sapbeast:

... last i checked the pvr-150 is ... $150

[21:05:19]

infringer:

nahhh

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sapbeast:

whats the problem with this card i have one? and a pvr-500?

[21:05:42]

infringer:

what card

[21:05:46]

infringer:

pvr-150

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sapbeast:

both

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infringer:

err I simply cant get it to work

[21:06:19]

sapbeast:

http://www.klystron.org/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=283

[21:06:20]

infringer:

http://pastebin.ca/89593

[21:06:23]

sha:

whats your problem with pvr-150? mine is working fine here

[21:06:23]

sapbeast:

thats my mythbox

[21:06:36]

infringer:

I configured the source and card and everything no cigar

[21:06:55]

Adamsgr8:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815100146

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sapbeast:

Adamsgr8: that might as well say "trouble in a box"

[21:07:31]

Adamsgr8:

price?

[21:08:49]

Adamsgr8:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815100135

[21:08:53]

Adamsgr8:

that one looks nicer

[21:08:59]

sha:

infringer: i'd find dmesg and /var/log/messages more interesting when modprobing the modules

[21:09:16]

sapbeast:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815116631

[21:09:20]

sapbeast:

exactly what i have

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Adamsgr8:

alright, then that is wat i shall get :)

[21:10:20]

infringer:

http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-3.htm . . . pture_device

[21:10:29]

sapbeast:

i also have this but unfortunately its still a work in progess for ivtv http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815116628

[21:11:24]

Adamsgr8:

that ones too pricey for my liking

[21:11:37]

sapbeast:

well obviously if your 17

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Adamsgr8:

lol

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sapbeast:

im surprised you can even spend $80

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Adamsgr8:

turn 18 in a month :)

[21:12:20]

Adamsgr8:

so good chunk of birthday money will go into this

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infringer:

sapbeast ok

[21:13:23]

Adamsgr8:

but im just gonna like throwing my finger in my dads face and laugh because hes paying for pvr monthly and im not :D

[21:13:32]

AngryElf:

infringer, have you gotten cat /dev/video0>test.mpg working?

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sapbeast:

keep in mind he will be the one laughing if you want to record the digital channels

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infringer:

http://pastebin.ca/89656

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Adamsgr8:

why is that sap? we have digital cable

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sapbeast:

Adamsgr8: these devices do not record the digital channels

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sapbeast:

unless you want to break the law

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Adamsgr8:

who doesnt

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infringer:

angry dunno it did not show error message when I ran if I remember correct

[21:15:52]

sapbeast:

thats strange mine worked the first time i set it up, i followed the ivtv faq

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Adamsgr8:

if its a movie channel or a "digital" channel i can access it from ondemand anyways

[21:16:49]

sapbeast:

and "who doesnt" applies to the developers of mythtv who would rather like to stay out of jail

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Adamsgr8:

chill

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sapbeast:

yeah but we get asked that alot in here

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xris:

Adamsgr8: hd box + firewire == goodness

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** mishehu bahs. **

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Adamsgr8:

thats wat i hear, no the firewire im my cable boxes dont work :( already looked into that possability

[21:20:31]

Adamsgr8:

none of the*

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xris:

Adamsgr8: then call your cable company. it's required by fcc mandate

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sapbeast:

its actually required? its never worked here

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Adamsgr8:

no, i dont care enough to go through the trouble

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xris:

sapbeast: if you ask for it.

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mishehu:

AngryElf: phone call, sorry. it's irsend SEND_ONCE REMOTE_NAME data

[21:21:32]

sapbeast:

xris: last time i called them about that they just hung up on me right away

[21:21:37]

xris:

Adamsgr8: the quality is worth the hassle, imho...

[21:21:56]

xris:

sapbeast: lame. I've heard that some people have had issues. some guy in NY had to take them to court (still pending, I think)

[21:22:03]

xris:

just call and ask to talk to the manager.

[21:22:06]

sapbeast:

yeah thats the kind of shit i dont want to deal with

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sapbeast:

my life is busy enough as it is, i dont need a legal proceeding over one channel i might wanna record digitally legally

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infringer:

Angryelf : cat /dev/video0>/var/lib/mythtv/recordings/test.mpg

[21:22:29]

infringer:

it creates a video file of no size...

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xris:

say you have a copy of the fcc law that says they're required to provide a working firewire port. Most companies comply at that point.

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xris:

infringer: sounds like your drivers aren't set up properly

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sapbeast:

im not aware this law exists or existed

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Adamsgr8:

yeah me either

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xris:

http://www.google.com/search?q=fcc%20firewire

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AngryElf:

infringer, did you compile ivtv yourself?

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Adamsgr8:

if i wanted to fix it so bad it prolly wouldnt be to hard to open it and just solder it back in

[21:23:49]

xris:

they're required to provide a minimum of the OTA channels over the firewire port

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xris:

Adamsgr8: huh?

[21:24:09]

xris:

solder what?

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Adamsgr8:

ive got the port on my box, its just not attached in the inside, the port doesnt work

[21:24:34]

infringer:

AngryElf: Yes

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infringer:

version4.6

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Adamsgr8:

i was just assuming they had cut the wires for sum reason?

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infringer:

tried subversion as well

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infringer:

and rpm

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xris:

Adamsgr8: then call and exchange the box. they're only required to provide it to people who ask for it (and only for HD subscribers/boxes)

[21:24:58]

infringer:

still no dice

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AngryElf:

that's the right version for your kernel? check dmesg for errors

[21:25:20]

Adamsgr8:

i dont know if we are hd subscribers, i dont pay the bill

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sapbeast:

yeah what kernel are you running infringer

[21:25:43]

sapbeast:

that actually makes a different

[21:26:04]

infringer:

the standard kernel with mandriva 2006.0

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xris:

Adamsgr8: well, it's pretty easy to check if the box is an HD box.

[21:26:32]

infringer:

or actually guess it would be the smp kernel

[21:26:42]

xris:

Adamsgr8: usually all digital cable comes with HD, but you have to pay a little extra for the HD box. pretty sure ALL of the pvr models are HD.

[21:26:45]

AngryElf:

infringer, uname -r

[21:26:52]

janneg:

is here someone with dvb and and current svn trunk?

[21:27:12]

infringer:

2.6.12–12mdksmp

[21:27:13]

sapbeast:

here HD pvr is a premium and doesnt ever work right

[21:27:46]

Adamsgr8:

we prolly have hd now that i think about it, my dads got a plasma so it might be kinda stupid not to have the HD

[21:27:46]

sapbeast:

infringer: 0.4.6 would be the correct version, but then the kernel needs the right stuff compiled in too

[21:27:47]

AngryElf:

k, now check dmesg for errors

[21:28:04]

xris:

Adamsgr8: it's worth at least making a phone call or two to check the firewire ports

[21:28:16]

Adamsgr8:

yeah i just might do that

[21:28:36]

Speedy2:

janneg: Not SVN trunk. What card are you using?

[21:28:43]

Adamsgr8:

would it require me to buy a hd pvr card? or just the firewire

[21:28:47]

AngryElf:

dinner

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sapbeast:

just the firewire to stream the data

[21:29:14]

sapbeast:

or you can get a HD tuner card for OTA signals

[21:29:17]

sapbeast:

but those are $

[21:29:18]

xris:

Adamsgr8: just firewire

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Adamsgr8:

ahh, thatd be a no cost solution

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janneg:

Speedy2: various. But nevermind I updated 50 revisions. the problem was a local patch

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mishehu:

lirc is a total pain in the ass if you have more than one device on your system.

[21:54:56]

sapbeast:

yeah, it forgets the ky

[21:58:07]

mishehu:

tell me about i.

[21:58:08]

mishehu:

it

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mishehu:

what sucks even more is that there's almost never anybody around on the #lirc channel.

[22:00:08]

** xris grumbles about h264 encoding in linux **

[22:02:42]

mishehu:

xris: does it do anything yet even?

[22:02:51]

mishehu:

I've built x264 but not tried to do anything with it yet.

[22:03:04]

xris:

as far as I can tell, x264 only encodes video

[22:03:17]

xris:

ffmpeg and countless other things use x264, too..

[22:03:30]

mishehu:

I mean, does it *work* yet?

[22:03:39]

xris:

I have a commandline for h264 that I got from an osx encoder (for ffmpeg) that works.. in osx. same commandline in linux doesn't.

[22:03:44]

mishehu:

they still have it labeled as highly pre-alpha

[22:04:24]

mishehu:

xris: must be a bad build. I have an x264 executable in /usr/bin

[22:04:57]

xris:

yeah, I have an x264 package, too

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xris:

separate from ffmpeg

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infringer:

can someone please direct me step by step like a little friggin baby how to setup ivtv properly to work? I follow all the directions place firmware in correct directories and its no go ...

[22:06:57]

infringer:

its been months of reading differnt webpages and truely I havent gotten anywhere.

[22:07:12]

xris:

infringer: what distro?

[22:07:13]

infringer:

So something is obviously wrong here

[22:07:18]

infringer:

mandriva

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AngryElf:

where did you put the firmware?

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xris:

no packages?

[22:07:36]

infringer:

kde

[22:07:52]

infringer:

firmware is in hotplug directory

[22:08:46]

infringer:

errr maybe I just need to do a cold boot again after trying to recompile

[22:08:59]

infringer:

I was able to get video but no audio on knoppmyth

[22:09:05]

infringer:

so I know it's possible

[22:09:13]

infringer:

actually no audio and no IR

[22:09:24]

infringer:

and gnome is icky

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infringer:

for me great for some

[22:09:39]

AngryElf:

infringer, did you check dmesg for errors like i've suggested twice?

[22:09:43]

infringer:

yes

[22:09:48]

AngryElf:

and?

[22:09:54]

infringer:

there are errors

[22:10:01]

AngryElf:

well they might help us a little

[22:10:03]

infringer:

I cant paste them all here

[22:10:06]

infringer:

ok one sec

[22:11:34]

infringer:

http://pastebin.ca/89718

[22:11:42]

infringer:

theres a pastebin

[22:11:50]

infringer:

of dmesg

[22:12:29]

infringer:

ivtv: i2c client addr: 0x40 not found!

[22:12:29]

infringer:

ivtv: i2c client addr: 0x40 not found!

[22:12:29]

infringer:

ivtv: i2c client addr: 0x21 not found!

[22:12:29]

infringer:

ivtv: i2c client addr: 0x21 not found!

[22:12:29]

AngryElf:

that doesn't look like all o fit

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oppiz:

hey, i'm trying to compile MythTv 64, qt is in /opt/qt, but had /opt/qt/lib and /opt/qt/lib64, how would i point the ./configure script or make to the /opt/qt/lib64 i tried $LDFLAGS="-L/opt/qt/lib64" ./configure --prefix=/opt/MythTv

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AngryElf:

i think the top of it scrolled off your buffer

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xris:

oppiz: what distro?

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AngryElf:

do: dmesg > file.txt and then open that up and see if there's more at the top

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oppiz:

lfs

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infringer:

ok

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xris:

oppiz: lfs is a distro? thought it was a file spec.

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xris:

oppiz: what's it based n?

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xris:

based on?

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oppiz:

It's linux

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xris:

oppiz: yes. but what distribution?

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oppiz:

it's based on a kernel and building the packages to it, using the correct standarts

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xris:

oppiz: if qt is in /opt, it's certainly not putting things in the correct location

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oppiz:

i put it there

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gardengnome:

LSB was the spec, iirc

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xris:

gardengnome: yeah, that's what I thought.

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oppiz:

i just need to point MythTV to the right qt lib file

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infringer:

AngryElf; http://pastebin.ca/89719

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xris:

oppiz: pretty sure mythtv expects that libraries like that are going to be in the correct locations. you'll probably have to seriously mess with /etc/ld.so.conf* etc to get it to work with your funky setup.

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oppiz:

i should be able to add lib dir search paths

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xris:

oppiz: but /opt is for weird stuff like statically linked programs... stuff like qt should be in /usr (if supplied by the distro) or /usr/local/ if you're compiling yourself.

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AngryElf:

infringer, you're using version 0.2.0?

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AngryElf:

maybe that's why you're having issues

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infringer:

19.1

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janneg:

I think it works if qmake is in $PATH

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AngryElf:

i'm talking about ivtv

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AngryElf:

forget myth for now

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oppiz:

xris: does mythtv know to look in /usr/lib64 when being compiled 64bit?

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infringer:

oh wtf I just installed it ...

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infringer:

errr how do I get rid of 2.0

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xris:

oppiz: it should

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infringer:

I did a make && make install for 4.6

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infringer:

I did try 2.0

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infringer:

but got rid of it I thought

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infringer:

0.2.0

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infringer:

any ideas how to remove 0.2.0

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infringer:

www.google.com

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AngryElf:

installing 0.4.6 should overwrite it

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** sapbeast twiddles thumbs as his crossdev kit compiles **

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mishehu:

hmm.. can mythtv statically link in lirc or only dynamically link it in? I notice that liblirc_client dso is the same when built separately for an audigy livedrive midi remote as when built for an irblaster transmitter.

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mishehu:

but the static libraries are different.

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mishehu:

no wait, they are the same.

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mishehu:

I just forgot to strip the debugging symbols from them.

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mishehu:

heh.

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haj:

when running mythfrontend in windowed mode... is there any way of stopping it jumping to top left on the screen when watching tv/playing recordings?

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mishehu:

ugh no no no. same size, different sha1sum's...

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mishehu:

too fricking confusing.

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infringer:

AngryElf; would this help any maybe something going wrong during make? http://pastebin.ca/89728

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** infringer smacks AngryElf with a beached carp that baked in the sun all day today. **

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infringer:

lol that oughtta wake em up

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haj:

wonder if mythfrontend would work on a Hollywood Plus?

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haj:

i think i remember seeing an X-server for cards like that..

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j2^:

Hello!

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j2^:

Is it somehow possible to get mythlcdserver to show stuff like "upcoming recordings" and similar?

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mishehu:

hmm the readme file doesn't say this, but what's the dependency for native dvd playback in mythtv?

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d3ity:

hey people

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d3ity:

what kernel module controls serial ports? and where might I find it?

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Josiah:

what is going on with this libdvdcss thing... i cant install it

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d3ity:

Josiah, libdvdcss is illegal in the US.

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d3ity:

Josiah, but you still can install it

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Josiah:

oh

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Josiah:

how do i find out what tv tuner card i have and get it working?

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d3ity:

turns out, the US government considers encryption part of it's weapons laws, so technically, you'd need a permit for that library

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d3ity:

Josiah, lspci would tell you

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mishehu:

d3ity: 8250 is the kernel mod for 2.6.x kernels

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Josiah:

what would it be listed under in lspci?

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d3ity:

mishehu, I have a 16550 A

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d3ity:

Josiah, Multimedia Video Controller

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d3ity:

see my line

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d3ity:

01:08.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)

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d3ity:

mishehu, is it still the same module?

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Josiah:

Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)

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mishehu:

d3ity: yeah

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d3ity:

mishehu, sweet

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mishehu:

d3ity: 8250 is the generic serial driver.

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d3ity:

mishehu, you have a Hauppage card

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d3ity:

you need ivtv to use myth

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d3ity:

and it's probably a PVR-150, same as mine

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mishehu:

d3ity: I need to know what the dependency for native dvd playback is.

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Hotwheelz:

Hi guys just a quick about upgrading from previous versions as long as u backup your database do u then just unpack the files contained in the new packages to the same directories then put your database back?.correct or not?

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mishehu:

nah, I have a pvr250, and it's already working.

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mishehu:

d3ity: if you happen to know what that is

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d3ity:

mishehu, well, libdvdcss does that, but I believe theres a stripped version of it without the encryption breaking capabilities.

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d3ity:

google around for the home of libdvdcss

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d3ity:

er, wrong person directed to there Josiah

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d3ity:

anyway, you can just install the normal encryption breaking version if you don't care about the legallity thereof

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Josiah:

i have it downloaded but when i try to rpm -i it fails

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d3ity:

Josiah, deadrat is not a distro I support, ask in #redhat

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d3ity:

or #Fedora,

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Josiah:

i have suse

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d3ity:

Josiah, I despise RPMs of all forms

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Josiah:

oh ok

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Hotwheelz:

guys

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d3ity:

brb, new kernel

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oppiz:

xris:

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oppiz:

?

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oppiz:

sed -i 's@$(QTDIR)/lib@$(QTDIR)/lib64@g' $(grep -lr '$(QTDIR)/lib' *)

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oppiz:

BOOM!

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oppiz:

they should write it as QTLIBDIR or something

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d3ity:

hey mishehu

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d3ity:

care to help me out a little with lirc?

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d3ity:

anyone? lirc?

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d3ity:

alsoconfused, happen to be around?

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