| Wednesday, July 12th, 2006, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:04] | Tom7e: | i've had this problem once before |
| [00:00:21] | jedix: | PaulWay: in teh mythtv-setup? yes. I have set it to a dir I made in my /movies/movies folder called mythtv |
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| [00:00:53] | Juski: | sapbeast: I know what they _are_ by default.. I just need to know, what I'd need to put in the case of assigning a key.. like what would SHIFT_F10 be called in the key definition field? |
| [00:01:13] | jedix: | kormoc: http://jebus.ca/~jedix/foo.txt |
| [00:01:19] | sapbeast: | you mean for xmodmap then? |
| [00:01:33] | Juski: | e.g. instead of having 'i' as the info key... make it shift_f12... |
| [00:01:36] | sapbeast: | i guess i didnt understand your request then... sorry :( |
| [00:01:40] | Juski: | no I mean for the keymapping table |
| [00:01:59] | sapbeast: | there has to be a way to change it... i remember reading about it before |
| [00:02:09] | Juski: | yeh you can change it – that's dead easy... |
| [00:02:23] | Juski: | what I don't currently know is what all the possible keys are called |
| [00:02:46] | Jonathan1: | if my frontend is watching live tv from my hdtv card and the frontend downstairs wants to watch another hdtv channel, what will happen? |
| [00:03:21] | Juski: | Jonathan1: the frontend downstairs will report the input is already being used |
| [00:03:55] | Jonathan1: | Juski: ahh, sweet, just what i was looking for |
| [00:03:57] | Juski: | and even if it wants to watch the same channel, you'd have to watch the live recording from 'watch recordings' |
| [00:03:59] | jedix: | PaulWay: have I missed a stem with the path configureation? |
| [00:04:06] | jedix: | or a step |
| [00:04:11] | Jonathan1: | Juski: ahh ok |
| [00:04:22] | sapbeast: | Juski: im sorry i cant help you further, thats why i bought a usb irblaster :( |
| [00:04:31] | Juski: | Jonathan1: but sharing of streams is kind of being looked at |
| [00:04:39] | Juski: | or was.. at some point.. |
| [00:04:43] | Juski: | sapbeast: thanks anyway |
| [00:05:06] | Juski: | I might just plug in & try linuxy key names & see if they work |
| [00:05:35] | sapbeast: | yeah its really hard to do that stuff without an example, i had to spend hours to find a sample config for my remote, and i still had to change alot of buttons |
| [00:05:38] | Jonathan1: | has there been any way to get directv on a mythtv? |
| [00:05:56] | sapbeast: | Jonathan1: dont even think about it |
| [00:06:11] | adante: | i can't seem to transcode my jobs anymore – mythbackend status reports "Errored (unrecoverable error)" |
| [00:06:15] | sapbeast: | there is about 0% chance that directv will be supported in myth |
| [00:06:18] | Juski: | sapbeast: it's daft that even the wiki doesn't tell you what to put in there |
| [00:06:19] | Jonathan1: | sapbeast: you have to use a receiver? |
| [00:06:28] | adante: | i've checked my backend logs but they're massive and i can't actually find any string that pertains to this transcode error |
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| [00:06:46] | adante: | grep error/transcode just produces lots of 2006-07–12 08:25:23.482 JobQueue: GetJobsInQueue: Ignore 'Transcode' Job for 150 |
| [00:06:48] | adante: | 0708203100 in Errored state. |
| [00:06:57] | sapbeast: | Jonathan1: yeah at best, you use a cable box (or directv reciever yes) and an irblaster controls it for you changing channels, but the recordings will be a-n-a-l-o-g-u-e |
| [00:07:21] | sapbeast: | the best you can get for digital recordings is if your lucky enough to have a firewire supported cablebox |
| [00:07:23] | jedix: | ie, suck. |
| [00:07:32] | Tom7e: | how can i delete my database to set up a new one. i'm pretty sure this one is unsalvageable |
| [00:07:58] | Jonathan1: | sapbeast: there is a twinhan dvb card that has dvb and dss modes, and with certain program you can get the music channels, and even get subscription channels legally |
| [00:08:10] | sapbeast: | Jonathan1: the problem was and always will be that these companies plainly do not want you to make digital recordings for obvious reasons |
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| [00:08:30] | jedix: | damn. |
| [00:08:37] | Jonathan1: | sapbeast: i have a directivo i grab the recordings from :P |
| [00:08:51] | sapbeast: | Jonathan1: im still uncertain about linux support though, there are devices that are windows MCE only that let you record digital cable but only because they use DRM |
| [00:09:18] | Jonathan1: | sapbeast: thats why there is mythtv, it's drm free :P |
| [00:09:20] | sapbeast: | Jonathan1: yeah and unfortunately thats the only real way to "easily" snatch directv recordings |
| [00:09:34] | Jonathan1: | yeah |
| [00:10:10] | sapbeast: | Jonathan1: which is fine for the current time being, with analogue tv still very much present and OTA hdtv and free-to-air DVB being available, you still have alot you can watch legally and non-DRM |
| [00:10:12] | Jonathan1: | if i could code i'd made a mythdirectv plugin that will allow you to have directv legally |
| [00:10:31] | sapbeast: | Jonathan1: you would be breaking the law if you made it work (seriously, in the US) |
| [00:10:48] | Tom7e: | how can i delete my database to set up a new one. i'm pretty sure this one is unsalvageable |
| [00:10:52] | Jonathan1: | well, i love watching the science and history channel, and thats why i want to use directv |
| [00:11:25] | sapbeast: | Jonathan1: we understand that, but any method of watching a programme that involves cracking encryption is illegal in the US and even developing or selling anything that does this is also illegal |
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| [00:11:34] | Jonathan1: | sapbeast: how so? no way to circumvent not paying for a subscription |
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| [00:11:52] | Jonathan1: | it doesn't crack anything |
| [00:11:57] | sapbeast: | Jonathan1: four letters: DMCA. even if you paid for it you are not legally allowed to crack it |
| [00:12:05] | kormoc: | jedix, sorry, was afk a little. Honestly, I never delt with DVB :/ |
| [00:12:13] | jedix: | damnit. |
| [00:12:27] | Jonathan1: | you need your own card you use, this program emulates a directv receiver, thats it |
| [00:12:52] | sapbeast: | Jonathan1: yeah but those cards are windows only because they are licensed and DRM'ed, developing a linux driver would be illegal |
| [00:13:14] | jedix: | 'illegal' |
| [00:13:46] | Jonathan1: | sap: no, i mean the smart card, and the dvb-s card does have linux drivers, from twinhan |
| [00:13:58] | sapbeast: | Jonathan1: im not intending to sound like the industry poster boy, but im just making it clear that content providers do not want you to be able to record programs digitally if they can help it |
| [00:14:13] | Jonathan1: | no drm on it, just a dvb-s card with a tuner that does dvb and dss |
| [00:14:40] | sapbeast: | i know dvb is perfectly legal, but im unsure about the dss portion |
| [00:14:43] | Jonathan1: | sapbeast: i know, thats why they can go **** themselves |
| [00:14:50] | Tom7e: | can someone send me their mc.sql file? i deleted mine |
| [00:15:33] | sapbeast: | Jonathan1: the reason i say that is because some people come in here asking if they can crack thier scrambled cable tv channels with mythtv or whatever hardware, thats not exactly what myth developers want to be involved with |
| [00:16:41] | Juski: | never mind the developers.. I really have no qualms about paying for tv at the moment. and then when I'm not okay with it – I won't watch TV (like when they DRM it to fuck) |
| [00:17:06] | sapbeast: | yeah i do not agree with thier motives either (media companies) |
| [00:17:24] | Jonathan1: | you use a smart card reader and your own subscribed smart card and you run the program which will tune in the directv channel and use your legally subscribed smart card to decrypt a channel you are subscribed to, perfectly legal in the sense there is no theft of signal |
| [00:17:26] | Juski: | blame the filesharing communities.. |
| [00:17:59] | jedix: | I have a hd dvr, but they lock the firewire port |
| [00:18:02] | sapbeast: | there was a news announcement earlier today about how bittorrent (the company, not the protocol) is introducing pay legal movies... with no mention about how much they will cost and they will be only playable in WMP9 and no options for portable devices or dvd players |
| [00:18:17] | Juski: | .. or linux devices... |
| [00:18:29] | Jonathan1: | then i'm not paying them shit |
| [00:18:30] | sapbeast: | which is pretty lame, in essence they are using your bandwidth to make themselves more money! |
| [00:18:36] | kormoc: | Juski, can run wmp in wine |
| [00:18:59] | Juski: | heh. but does the drm work in wine too? |
| [00:19:01] | Jonathan1: | fuck wmp, you can get the codecs fore use with mplayer |
| [00:19:02] | jedix: | or don't because that's no tthe answer |
| [00:19:20] | Tom7e: | i can't grant privileges |
| [00:19:21] | Tom7e: | http://rafb.net/paste/results/hniHZP67.html |
| [00:19:40] | sapbeast: | Jonathan1: in that case my information might be incorrect, if you have a legal card to go with the decode then yes, its legal because the smart card is what makes or breaks directv... and since they are currently uncrackable there is no real way to illegaly obtain the signal then |
| [00:20:04] | Jonathan1: | fuck drm, fuck microshat, fuck media companies, fuck content providers |
| [00:20:27] | Juski: | Tom7e: forgot the root password? there's a manpage for that on the interweb thingy |
| [00:20:50] | Jonathan1: | sapbeast: yeah, which is why i think a directv mythtv plugin will be a good idea |
| [00:20:51] | Tom7e: | no, i know my root password |
| [00:21:11] | Juski: | Tom7e: how about the mysql database though.. the _actual_ users DB ? |
| [00:21:22] | sapbeast: | its hard to blame media companies because they are doing what is in thier best interest, they are a business and are in business to make money... however that does not mean i agree with thier practices of charging $10 for a physical DVD that you can do whatever with but then charge the same for pay downloads that you can only use on the computer |
| [00:21:40] | Jonathan1: | sapbeast: although, directv does not encrypt audio, so you can receive audio for free, like the music channels |
| [00:21:47] | Juski: | sapbeast: yeh but remember in their rose-tinted world you can't rip DVDs |
| [00:21:59] | Tom7e: | the mc.sql database? i never set up a password, i just downloaded it with mythtv |
| [00:22:03] | Jonathan1: | i'll rent and rip what i want to |
| [00:22:11] | sapbeast: | this is true, decss is still illegal... at least in the US however everyone still uses it |
| [00:22:19] | Juski: | Tom7e: the mc.sql is just a bunch of sql to make mythconverg |
| [00:22:41] | Jonathan1: | i want to get one of those tshirts with the decss code on the back of it |
| [00:22:53] | sapbeast: | Jonathan1: and i share Juski's views, if it gets to the point i cant use what i want freely then i simply will stop watching. I literally went 3 years without owning a tv or watching anything on it and DIDNT MISS A THING :) |
| [00:23:12] | Juski: | in mysql there's another DB.. one that has all the users, access rights & stuff |
| [00:23:20] | Tom7e: | i never set up any databases |
| [00:23:38] | Juski: | Tom7e: no, cos that one comes as standard ;-) |
| [00:23:47] | sapbeast: | Tom7e: you can use the mysqladmin program to administer stuff like setting the root password or creating a DB |
| [00:23:48] | Tom7e: | so how do i access it |
| [00:24:14] | Jonathan1: | sapbeast: i know, i only really watch the history and science/discovery channels, the rest i don't give two floops about |
| [00:24:14] | sapbeast: | or really the mysqladmin is for user priviledges... |
| [00:24:48] | Juski: | Tom7e: so you can log into mysql as root.. what about as the user mythtv? |
| [00:24:59] | Juski: | that'll be the problem I expect |
| [00:25:12] | sapbeast: | Tom7e: i think its just mysql -p and see if it defaults to root... if so you should have full acces and then its mysql -p < mc.sql |
| [00:25:26] | Jonathan1: | sapbeast: but those tv rips on the net you see are hdtv rips with commercials cut out, i love seeing that because it's a kick in the balls for the content providers |
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| [00:25:37] | sapbeast: | however i primarily use phpmyadmin which is more involved to setup but its b-e-u-t-i-f-u-l for managing mysql |
| [00:25:42] | Juski: | Jonathan1: it's also a kick in the balls for us |
| [00:26:00] | Tom7e: | no, mysql -p asks for a password that i apparently don't have |
| [00:26:01] | Juski: | .. because they can (and are) really starting to tighten the croc clips |
| [00:26:04] | Jonathan1: | i know it's strange, but i take great pleasure in the fact that the big content providers get royally screwed |
| [00:26:07] | PaulWay: | It's also spelt incorrectly. :-) |
| [00:26:18] | sapbeast: | Tom7e: does it say something like (user@root) |
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| [00:26:28] | Tom7e: | yes |
| [00:26:40] | Jonathan1: | Juski: they were with the copyright flag on ota broadcasts |
| [00:26:46] | Tom7e: | it says matthew @ localhost |
| [00:26:49] | PaulWay: | Jonathan1: Did you enjoy Free Use Day yesterday? |
| [00:27:04] | Jonathan1: | PaulWay: there was a free use day? |
| [00:27:25] | sapbeast: | Tom7e: then you are using user matthew, which is unlikely to have rights |
| [00:27:39] | PaulWay: | Jonathan1: that's how much attention it gets. |
| [00:27:41] | Tom7e: | how do i give it rights |
| [00:27:52] | sapbeast: | try mysql -u root -p |
| [00:27:53] | PaulWay: | Ah, sorry, fair use day. |
| [00:27:56] | PaulWay: | That's what I mean. |
| [00:27:57] | sapbeast: | if you know roots password |
| [00:28:00] | Jonathan1: | PaulWay: these media companies can suck my ass |
| [00:28:02] | Juski: | wth is 'Fair Use day' ? |
| [00:28:05] | PaulWay: | http://www.fairuseday.com |
| [00:28:10] | Jonathan1: | ahh |
| [00:28:14] | sapbeast: | by default root should have GRANT ALL |
| [00:28:21] | sapbeast: | and can do whatever the hell it wants |
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| [00:28:35] | PaulWay: | You in the US at least _have_ fair use laws. |
| [00:28:42] | PaulWay: | They don't exist in Australia. |
| [00:28:43] | Tom7e: | it's not the same as my root password |
| [00:28:52] | Tom7e: | ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES) |
| [00:29:07] | sapbeast: | well is one set? try no password (seriously) |
| [00:29:13] | sapbeast: | at least on gentoo its blank by default... |
| [00:29:24] | sapbeast: | as in -u root but no -p |
| [00:29:27] | kormoc: | on gentoo it defaults to your root password I thought |
| [00:29:29] | Jonathan1: | see i want to build a home ip network with a gigE switch, a cisco router for wan, mythbakends, and an asterisk server to give all clients access to media, net, files, and telephonmy |
| [00:29:58] | Jonathan1: | PaulWay: this is true, but they rarely get the anntention they deserve |
| [00:30:11] | Tom7e: | that works sapbeast |
| [00:30:11] | sapbeast: | Jonathan1: cisco FTL, after my experience with dd-wrt you can make a cheapo linksys router as good as a cisco that costs nearly a thousand |
| [00:30:13] | Tom7e: | no password |
| [00:30:18] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [00:30:19] | kormoc: | strange |
| [00:30:21] | xris: | bobbyz: x264 was never IN nuvexport. h.264 support in ffmpeg seems to have sync problems. |
| [00:30:24] | sapbeast: | you might want to change that! |
| [00:30:28] | Tom7e: | how |
| [00:30:34] | sapbeast: | one sec |
| [00:30:38] | Tom7e: | help doesn't say |
| [00:30:41] | WAR_CH|LD: | does anyone have any experience with the DViCO Dual Digital? |
| [00:30:53] | Jonathan1: | sapbeast: i know, but i like the cisco hardware platform with WICs |
| [00:31:05] | sapbeast: | mysqladmin -u root password |
| [00:31:24] | sapbeast: | not typing the password where password is |
| [00:31:34] | sapbeast: | its the command password, it will prompt for a new password (REMEMBER THIS) |
| [00:31:42] | Tom7e: | do i do the same for my regular username afterwards |
| [00:31:47] | sapbeast: | then next time you use mysql -u root -p you use that password |
| [00:32:00] | sapbeast: | no your regular username is probably bastardized and wont be a security risk |
| [00:32:13] | sapbeast: | as far as i know (they usually default to not grant permissions) |
| [00:32:15] | Juski: | right I got nowhere fast with the keymapping stuff.. will try again tomorrow... |
| [00:32:16] | Juski: | night all |
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| [00:32:45] | Tom7e: | maybe i'm running a different version of mysqladmin :: matthew@matthew-desktop:~$ mysqladmin -u root password |
| [00:32:45] | Tom7e: | mysqladmin: Too few arguments to change password |
| [00:32:49] | Jonathan1: | my version 5 wrt sucked and i hated it, and it's hardware sucks compaired to cisco's hardware, so even with micro wrt, it'll still suck, but i bought a used 1721 from ebay |
| [00:32:55] | sapbeast: | oh! |
| [00:33:04] | sapbeast: | mysqladmin -u root password typepasswordhere |
| [00:33:10] | Tom7e: | ok |
| [00:33:15] | Tom7e: | new password? |
| [00:33:28] | sapbeast: | it should say "password updated for user root@localhost" |
| [00:33:37] | Jonathan1: | v5 wrt54g sucks :P |
| [00:33:46] | Tom7e: | mine didn't say anything |
| [00:33:50] | Jonathan1: | cheap all in one hardware crap |
| [00:33:51] | Tom7e: | i think that means it worked though |
| [00:34:09] | sapbeast: | if it did, try mysql -u root -p |
| [00:34:15] | sapbeast: | if it takes your password your set |
| [00:34:17] | Tom7e: | yes, it worked |
| [00:34:19] | Jonathan1: | my cisco 1721 gives me hardons now that it's configured properly :P |
| [00:34:48] | sapbeast: | Tom7e: now you should be able to run mysql -u root -p < file |
| [00:34:57] | sapbeast: | and import the mythdatabase |
| [00:35:12] | Tom7e: | file being my mc.sql? |
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| [00:35:21] | Jonathan1: | and another thing i fucking hate, residential voip providers want you to use *THEIR* adapters, not your own cisco ip phone |
| [00:35:29] | sapbeast: | at least, if it works it should not throw any errors (as in sucessfully performed x queries) |
| [00:35:37] | sapbeast: | Tom7e: yes |
| [00:35:44] | Tom7e: | database already exists |
| [00:35:58] | sapbeast: | hmmm then youve already tried it earlier and apparently made it work |
| [00:36:25] | Tom7e: | no, i think it was automatically installed with mythtv |
| [00:36:51] | sapbeast: | Tom7e: if you wanted to be sure, you can drop the database and re-import (only if somethings not working!) |
| [00:37:03] | sapbeast: | as in mysql -u root -p and then use the command DROP mythconverg |
| [00:37:05] | Tom7e: | but it still won't let me grant privileges.: mysql> grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"%" identified by "mythtv"; |
| [00:37:05] | Tom7e: | Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.00 sec) |
| [00:37:25] | sapbeast: | you may need to drop the database and try to run the script again... |
| [00:37:29] | Tom7e: | ok |
| [00:37:35] | sapbeast: | unless thats a typo on your grant |
| [00:38:02] | kormoc: | erm |
| [00:38:03] | sapbeast: | unfortunately i cannot continue helping... ive been at work for 14 hours :( i need to go home |
| [00:38:10] | Tom7e: | ok, thanks anyways |
| [00:38:10] | kormoc: | grants will never give a row count greater then 0 |
| [00:38:35] | kormoc: | and you need to flush privileges; to allow the grants to take affect |
| [00:38:51] | sapbeast: | thats right you need to do that... otherwise the changes wont affect |
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| [00:39:10] | Tom7e: | ok i've done that |
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| [00:41:23] | Tom7e: | still getting access denied when i run mythfrontend: http://rafb.net/paste/results/oGykzQ95.html |
| [00:41:32] | Tom7e: | kmysqladmin |
| [00:41:36] | Tom7e: | oops |
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| [00:49:30] | Tom7e: | when i try to run mythfilldatabase, i get an error: Table 'mythconverg.dd_v_program' doesn't exist |
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| [01:14:56] | schtinky: | is there any way to get your audio and video cards to always be assigned the same number (/dev/video0, /dev/audio1, etc) |
| [01:15:03] | schtinky: | when you reboot, that is |
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| [01:20:08] | Tom7e: | i am only able to get VHF channels for some reason |
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| [01:58:59] | sapbeast: | all quiet on the western front... |
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| [02:07:17] | joshdoe: | Hello |
| [02:08:13] | joshdoe: | Can someone help me configure mythtv? I have installed a digiwave 103g and the appropriate drivers. The system recognizes it but I want to know how to get it to come up in myth |
| [02:08:24] | joshdoe: | I am using ubuntu |
| [02:09:42] | dtm: | joshdoe: how to get what to come up? |
| [02:09:57] | dtm: | joshdoe: are you saying that mythtv doesn't recognize your digitizer |
| [02:09:58] | dtm: | ? |
| [02:12:28] | joshdoe: | Sorry a breaker tripped |
| [02:12:43] | joshdoe: | mythtv does not recognize my dvb-s card |
| [02:14:36] | joshdoe: | hello? |
| [02:16:03] | joshdoe: | anyine here? |
| [02:16:05] | opello: | hi, but i don't know about dvb |
| [02:16:24] | opello: | what do you mean doesn't recognize? |
| [02:17:11] | sapbeast: | is anyone familiar with logrotate? |
| [02:17:26] | joshdoe: | hangon I think it works |
| [02:17:49] | [Ex0r]: | you know, i was reading something earlier that said the pvr-150 card doesn't work with mythtv |
| [02:18:16] | joshdoe: | Is the mouse supposed to work in mythtv? I am having a hell of atime navigationg |
| [02:18:36] | opello: | i don't think you can click on the menu items, if that's what you mean ... i use the arrow keys on my wireless keyboard |
| [02:18:49] | opello: | sapbeast: anything in particular? |
| [02:19:15] | joshdoe: | I have a diseqc 1.0 pansat switch. |
| [02:19:25] | joshdoe: | Where can I set the switch tyoe? |
| [02:20:49] | sapbeast: | my mythbackend log is approaching 100MB |
| [02:21:03] | sapbeast: | however logrotate cant really do anything if its running |
| [02:21:14] | sapbeast: | problem is, i dont want it to restart the backend when a show is going |
| [02:21:26] | sapbeast: | would kill -HUP make the backend start a new log, but not stop recording |
| [02:22:10] | opello: | not sure, wonder if it's documented |
| [02:22:27] | sapbeast: | yeah it seems to be something nobodys really asked before |
| [02:22:52] | opello: | With the 0.19 release you can send a signal to the backend to reload the log files. This is useful after the rotation to write to the new log file, rather than the old. (see: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Log_File_Rotation) |
| [02:23:08] | joshdoe: | ANyone help newbs here? |
| [02:23:22] | sapbeast: | opello: you. are. awesome. |
| [02:23:43] | opello: | sapbeast: google is awesome :) heh |
| [02:25:13] | opello: | but happy to help |
| [02:25:17] | sapbeast: | opello i thought i tried that though :p maybe google gets confused on using -HUP |
| [02:25:29] | opello: | first one for 'mythtv logrotate' |
| [02:25:39] | opello: | google's parsing of – even when quoted is very broken |
| [02:26:22] | sapbeast: | yeah apparently |
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| [02:26:33] | sapbeast: | -rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv root 946M Jul 11 22:25 mythbackend.log.6 |
| [02:26:41] | sapbeast: | did i say 100mb? apparently i meant 1000mb @_@ |
| [02:26:46] | opello: | heh |
| [02:28:44] | joshdoe: | how do i scan in the setup. It wont let me select the box |
| [02:29:35] | opello: | i didn't think scanning for dvb worked? i could be wrong, of course |
| [02:30:45] | joshdoe: | Man this is frustrating |
| [02:32:08] | joshdoe: | Naybody have dvb-s experience? |
| [02:32:57] | opello: | http://www.ethics-gradient.net/myth/mythdvb.html maybe? |
| [02:33:00] | opello: | talks about scanning |
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| [02:33:55] | k-man: | hello |
| [02:37:51] | dtm: | k-man: hi. |
| [02:38:44] | dtm: | [Ex0r]: why would someone say it doesn't work? tons of people use it. |
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| [02:39:54] | dtm: | joshdoe: are there no dvb-s docs in the mythtv.org wiki? |
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| [02:46:46] | [Ex0r]: | dtm, I seen it on the site for mythtv |
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| [02:50:42] | joshdoe: | anyone here have a dish or bev scan list? |
| [02:51:45] | dtm: | joshdoe: did you google it/ |
| [02:51:45] | dtm: | ? |
| [02:52:04] | joshdoe: | yes |
| [02:52:08] | joshdoe: | no luck |
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| [02:55:20] | joshdoe: | Do I need to use zap to scan channels? |
| [02:57:58] | [Ex0r]: | dtm, it said that the WinTV-PVR-150 card isn't compatible |
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| [02:58:42] | opello: | joshdoe: maybe http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/ . . . /127676.html will help? |
| [02:59:27] | [Ex0r]: | Hauppauge WinTV-PVR-usb (model 602), or WinTV-PVR-PCI (model 880) cards (no driver – this is not the PVR-250/350 series of cards supported by the IvyTV driver) |
| [03:00:42] | opello: | hrm, what sorts of themed dialogs pop up while watching livetv? |
| [03:01:09] | opello: | on 0.18.1 ... i just saw one and i was in browse mode looking for something to watch, hit right, and it went away |
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| [03:07:55] | Russ: | if one was able to obtain the key for an encrypted QAM signal, how would you go about decrypting it? |
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| [03:14:32] | DrMitch: | anyone notice that zap2it doesn't have very accurate tv listings? |
| [03:15:23] | DrMitch: | in the past 2 days (12 recordings) 3 of them have been the wrong show, and the recorded shows were even on the actual schedule. and don't even get me started with MTV, those bastards |
| [03:15:53] | [Ex0r]: | DrMitch, who is your isp ? comcast? |
| [03:16:22] | DrMitch: | what's that have to do with it? |
| [03:16:46] | [Ex0r]: | because comcast even gets their guide wrong, I could imagine somebody who's not them getting it wrong, too. |
| [03:17:06] | DrMitch: | well, but tvguide shows the right listings |
| [03:17:19] | DrMitch: | aka, zap2it and tvguide disagree...and tvguide = right |
| [03:17:29] | [Ex0r]: | I turned it on the other day to hbo to watch die hard with a vengeance, and it was a damn porno |
| [03:17:39] | DrMitch: | lol |
| [03:17:46] | DrMitch: | that's a good surprise though |
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| [03:17:58] | [Ex0r]: | nah, i hate pornos |
| [03:18:16] | DrMitch: | hate them more than infomercials? |
| [03:18:44] | [Ex0r]: | Let's put it this way. Late at night when there is nothing on but pornos and infomercials, guess what I put on. |
| [03:18:55] | DrMitch: | haha |
| [03:19:06] | [Ex0r]: | At least I can fall asleep to infomercials |
| [03:22:42] | DrMitch: | stupid mtv, even their mtv.com/ontv schedule is wrong |
| [03:22:46] | DrMitch: | i HATE them |
| [03:24:26] | [Ex0r]: | lol how do you know their schedule is wrong? |
| [03:24:30] | [Ex0r]: | maybe it's tv guide thats wrong |
| [03:24:47] | Dagmar: | Yeah, isn't it just non-stop acne cleansing commercials now? |
| [03:25:01] | Russ: | in different areas, some providers change the content of a network |
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| [03:25:18] | Dagmar: | Oh, so different brands of acne cleansers then |
| [03:25:25] | Russ: | ie, in san diego, many channels become informercials after a certain hour, even though in other areas, they still broadcast content |
| [03:25:40] | sigger_: | At the risk of invoking The Rage, I have an .iso of a DVD on my BackEnd. To play it on BE, I had set up a Unique Player Command to do "xine --pfqh dvd://myth/video/Wedding.iso". Now that I have FrontEnd up it won't work there. Should I be using %s instead? (Saw it referring to filename) |
| [03:26:36] | DrMitch: | [Ex0r], because i WATCH the channel, and tv-guide, mtv, and zap2it are all wrong |
| [03:26:41] | Dagmar: | sigger: xine plays on the machine it's run on. Do the math. |
| [03:27:39] | sigger_: | Dagmar: xine's running on FE. Doesn't FE access or receive stream from BE? |
| [03:27:50] | Ross_C: | yes, but xine doesn't |
| [03:28:07] | Ross_C: | nfs mount your backend on your frontend |
| [03:28:08] | Dagmar: | sigger: xine plays what you tell it to. You told it to play an ISO and gave it a local frame of reference to find it |
| [03:28:45] | Dagmar: | Xine doesn't give a hoot about yoru front end or your backend |
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| [03:29:38] | sigger_: | Dagmar: right, that's why I figured myth prolly had some way of referring to files stored elsewhere. |
| [03:30:04] | Ross_C: | mytharchive question – how can I select files in chronological order so my dvds are in chronological order? With mythburn, I used to be able to sort based on date... Can't find any option for mytharchive date sort. |
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| [03:30:46] | JDStone: | has anyone used the DirecTV Perl script with myth? |
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| [03:31:39] | sigger_: | Isn't there a way of using the general play video command (which I think was xine -options dvd: for the dvd) |
| [03:33:19] | Dagmar: | Not if you don't have the video file accessible from the machine you are trying to watch the video on |
| [03:35:28] | Ross_C: | sigger_ : look under settings/video/file types – create a rule for ISO files – don't add the filename |
| [03:36:20] | Ross_C: | ...anyone using mytharchive? |
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| [03:37:14] | Led-Hed: | anyone here familiar with Pluto (www.plutohome.com) |
| [03:38:56] | Ross_C: | led-head – only on a basic level of what its trying to do – why? |
| [03:43:56] | sigger_: | Ross_C: ok there's already a rule there. But I'm noticing that even in the Video Manager, its referring to the address local to the BE (/myth/video/Wedding.iso) which must be how its in the db. how does FE get to know it as something that's accessible from FE? |
| [03:44:55] | sigger_: | Even if I symlink to BE over samba from FE's /myth/video wouldn't there then be two entries in database for Wedding.iso? |
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| [03:47:11] | Led-Hed: | Ross_C, I was just wanting to get some more info |
| [03:48:31] | sigger_: | ooh, I get it should I be making FE's /myth a symlink to BE's /myth via samba? |
| [03:49:15] | GreyFoxx: | why use a symlink ? |
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| [03:49:33] | GreyFoxx: | Just mount the BE's /myth to the FE at /myth |
| [03:49:55] | GreyFoxx: | then the files and paths will be identical on both machines |
| [03:50:17] | GreyFoxx: | Or is that whatyou meant ? |
| [03:50:41] | sigger_: | er, cause that's how I've always done that. yes, identical files and paths |
| [03:51:24] | GreyFoxx: | I'm just trying to figure out how a symlink comes into play or why you would use one in this case. I was wondering if you actually meant to just mount it and not actually "symlink" :) |
| [03:51:49] | sigger_: | didn't recall that mount could do it without link. that would be cool. That how FE is supposed to access stuff on BE? |
| [03:52:07] | GreyFoxx: | Yes, for non recordings and such |
| [03:52:18] | GreyFoxx: | but it can also use thatfor recordings |
| [03:52:56] | sigger_: | ah. I'm a co-dev on a music server program called ampache which does its stuff via streaming rather than shared access. |
| [03:53:29] | GreyFoxx: | Myth uses the mythprotocol for recordings/livetv, but mythvideo and such just accesses the file system directly |
| [03:53:49] | GreyFoxx: | BUT myth can access a file directly if it's mounted at the same location asit exists on the backend |
| [03:54:09] | sigger_: | ah. been wondering. makes sense for a highly enclosed system. |
| [03:54:22] | GreyFoxx: | Some people find nfs mounting the recordings directory to be snappier than the myth protocol |
| [03:55:07] | GreyFoxx: | I have /data/mythtv (recordings and such), and /data/video (xvidsand non "Recordings) on all my frontends and on the backends |
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| [03:55:23] | GreyFoxx: | thatway everything is in identical pathes no matter whatmachine I'm on |
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| [03:57:35] | sigger_: | Yeah, video has much higher bandwidth demand than music, so streaming is prolly somewhat limiting. My tiny EPIA 600 can send multiple streams (places in the house, out to my office via internet) without ever giving filesystem access. I figured that couldn't work for video given the bandwidth requirements |
| [03:57:52] | sigger_: | EPIA sends streams of music that is |
| [03:58:50] | GreyFoxx: | I just nfs mount everything. /data/mp3, /data/mythtv, /data/video, /data/photos, and /data/emu . All served from the master backend and mounted by every other machine |
| [03:59:10] | GreyFoxx: | they access as needed and itdoesn't require any special stream software |
| [03:59:15] | GreyFoxx: | just standard nfs mounts |
| [03:59:23] | Dagmar: | Video streams fine over 100bT |
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| [03:59:54] | Dagmar: | non-HD is fine even over 10bT |
| [04:00:12] | sigger_: | will have to remember how to deal with nfs . Been using samba so long. |
| [04:00:42] | sigger_: | read that SD TV can even go over wireless |
| [04:00:45] | pab: | GreyFoxx: Could that be why my nuvexport --transcode failed last night? I have a samba share in fstab of /video/recordings to /mnt/myth (hope I'm not butting in!) |
| [04:00:57] | dtm: | sigger_: edit /etc/exports on the server. start portmap, nfslock, and nfs on the server and portmap and nfslock on the client. run 'mount' on the client. |
| [04:01:11] | sigger_: | ah, thanks dtm |
| [04:01:20] | dtm: | sigger_: yeah i'm doing SD tv via 802.11b. not optimized yet; just started last night. |
| [04:01:29] | xris: | sigger_: sd will go over wireless, depending on the bitrate and the speed of the wireless |
| [04:02:00] | dtm: | right now i'm just recording it (one way) which is no problem. |
| [04:02:21] | dtm: | i've been able to sustain 500kBps across the entire house, one way, but i haven't tried two way. |
| [04:02:28] | dtm: | two way concurrent i mean |
| [04:03:25] | sigger_: | yeah, I think getting the speed of EPIA 600 as possible FE will be bigger issue than bandwidth |
| [04:03:44] | sigger_: | s/getting// |
| [04:04:12] | dtm: | my frontend is a 233 MHz G3 |
| [04:04:16] | sigger_: | read that its possible but needs a bit of tweaking |
| [04:04:31] | dtm: | actually it's my backend too |
| [04:04:52] | sigger_: | no postproccessing tho, right? |
| [04:05:02] | dtm: | it lacks only the storage which is currently via nfs via 802.11b and may also go via 10baseT. |
| [04:05:13] | dtm: | sigger_: yeah postprocessing would be on the storage host if at all |
| [04:05:32] | dtm: | i have a WinTV PVR USB2 on the backend |
| [04:05:41] | dtm: | it's a powerbook from 1998 |
| [04:06:33] | sigger_: | heh, wow. I have no tuner card and plan none. I just wanna be able to view movies stored on HD. Promised wifey wedding video would be first one (bolstering the WAF). |
| [04:06:46] | dtm: | oic |
| [04:06:48] | dtm: | well done. |
| [04:06:58] | sigger_: | thx |
| [04:06:59] | dtm: | i'm toying with mythplugins now |
| [04:07:09] | dtm: | i haven't gotten them to work just yet. just configuring. |
| [04:08:09] | sigger_: | Once I get this settled, I'd like to talk with the devs maybe about having a way to overlap ampache and mythtv since music is the other main reason we have the sys. |
| [04:08:49] | sigger_: | (haven't used plugins. sorry. still having issues getting FE running on EPIA) |
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| [04:11:51] | dtm: | sigger_: what is the significance of EPIA? |
| [04:11:57] | dtm: | why is it a problem |
| [04:12:27] | dtm: | you'll require the mythplugins in order to do what you're doing.. by default mythtv only handles tuners and the content captured thereof |
| [04:12:41] | sigger_: | I think I'm having XF86config-4 problems |
| [04:13:03] | dtm: | you're using xf86?! |
| [04:13:05] | dtm: | what distro is this |
| [04:13:12] | sigger_: | oh you know what, I prolly do have plugins. I'm using knoppmyth (I feel like a cheater) |
| [04:13:17] | dtm: | oic |
| [04:13:18] | dtm: | lol |
| [04:13:28] | dtm: | you're using a current knoppmyth? |
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| [04:13:47] | sigger_: | I feel like I'm one step away from having bought it at Best Buy |
| [04:13:52] | dtm: | hehe |
| [04:13:56] | sigger_: | yep current |
| [04:13:59] | dtm: | you're a lot more than one step. dont worry ;) |
| [04:14:03] | bRuZdEGO: | ok |
| [04:14:05] | bRuZdEGO: | lirc |
| [04:14:08] | bRuZdEGO: | what teh hell |
| [04:14:15] | dtm: | indeed |
| [04:14:16] | bRuZdEGO: | haha |
| [04:14:19] | dtm: | bRuZdEGO: that's what i was thinking, coz i know nothing of it |
| [04:14:23] | bRuZdEGO: | i'm just terribly confused |
| [04:14:32] | dtm: | i shall attack it someday very soon |
| [04:14:34] | bRuZdEGO: | I dont even know where to start |
| [04:14:39] | bRuZdEGO: | i'm attacking it now |
| [04:14:58] | bRuZdEGO: | and like, I feel i'm climbing up a milllion mile high escalator |
| [04:15:05] | bRuZdEGO: | and getting wel, no hwere. :) |
| [04:15:06] | sigger_: | actually the knoppmyth wiki has some decent info on lirc |
| [04:15:30] | dtm: | i'm at the situations of bRuZdEGO and sigger_ combined right now... i have everything done except lirc and the frontend display. |
| [04:15:32] | bRuZdEGO: | I have since learnt that lirc setup for the different distro's varies a lot and I would more than liekly find that information useless |
| [04:15:42] | dtm: | :-[ |
| [04:15:56] | bRuZdEGO: | ok, so from teh beginging.. i'm using debian etch |
| [04:16:12] | bRuZdEGO: | I read somewhre not to use the deb supplied from apt-get so i've downloaded the source |
| [04:16:16] | bRuZdEGO: | run teh configure |
| [04:16:25] | bRuZdEGO: | chose the usb device, dvico that i'm using |
| [04:16:36] | bRuZdEGO: | and thats it, I got nothing |
| [04:16:42] | sigger_: | bbl – feeding the baby |
| [04:16:45] | bRuZdEGO: | I try to start /etc/init.d/lirc start and I get nothing |
| [04:16:57] | bRuZdEGO: | nothing in messages, nothing is ps ax.... there is a lirc binary thou |
| [04:17:20] | bRuZdEGO: | lircd binary...... |
| [04:17:49] | bRuZdEGO: | I think my problem might be I can seem to work out where it wants to start the binary with the arugements so I might just do it manually for now |
| [04:17:51] | bRuZdEGO: | tahts an idea |
| [04:19:28] | bRuZdEGO: | lircd --driver=dvico --device=/dev/input/event2 looks great. |
| [04:19:30] | pab: | bRuZdEGO: I run debian. This site helped me enormously http://www.pclinuxonline.com/wiki/LircRemote |
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| [04:22:51] | bRuZdEGO: | sweet |
| [04:22:59] | dtm: | bRuZdEGO: why would you not use the debs? |
| [04:23:10] | pab: | Don't work |
| [04:23:21] | dtm: | why do they exist if they don't work for anyone? |
| [04:23:51] | pab: | Rephrase...I couldn't get them to work |
| [04:23:56] | dtm: | why not |
| [04:24:20] | pab: | Can't really remember now....been awhile |
| [04:25:40] | bRuZdEGO: | yeah, i've read there crap |
| [04:25:42] | bRuZdEGO: | dont work |
| [04:25:46] | bRuZdEGO: | everywhere says to download. ;) |
| [04:26:01] | bRuZdEGO: | I did use the deps at first and I coudn't get it from erroring out when trying to start |
| [04:26:07] | bRuZdEGO: | tells you the trad the manual and I read it and got no where |
| [04:26:16] | bRuZdEGO: | I guess I was missing something but then I found you should just download lircd from the site |
| [04:26:18] | bRuZdEGO: | so, bam d otaht. ;) |
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| [04:27:03] | WileECoyote: | hello everybody! |
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| [04:29:44] | WileECoyote: | does anyone know if there is a zap2it for Canadians? |
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| [04:42:17] | bRuZdEGO: | pab, you rock |
| [04:42:31] | bRuZdEGO: | with that URL, and what i've found out.. i've patched the two combined and I have a remote where some buttons work!! w00t! |
| [04:42:42] | bRuZdEGO: | dunno about you, but thats exciting. :) |
| [04:42:42] | bRuZdEGO: | lol |
| [04:42:44] | pab: | bRuXdEGO: Glad to help:) |
| [04:43:23] | bRuZdEGO: | so, assuming that some buttons do stuff and some buttons do nothing I suppose thats a /etc/lircd.conf edit |
| [04:43:37] | bRuZdEGO: | I suppose I have to systematically work out what buttons dont work |
| [04:43:38] | pab: | I would think so |
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| [04:43:44] | bRuZdEGO: | and then work out how to get them to work |
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| [04:44:20] | ** bRuZdEGO hits the drawing board ** | |
| [04:44:20] | pab: | bRuZdEGO: Go to wilson's site and check out his lircd.confs |
| [04:45:02] | bRuZdEGO: | wilons's site? well the remote I have is the dvico fusion hdtv usb remote |
| [04:45:12] | bRuZdEGO: | the lirc packages comes with a conf |
| [04:45:32] | bRuZdEGO: | under remotes/divoc/lircd.conf.fusionHDTV |
| [04:45:34] | bRuZdEGO: | so thats in use atm |
| [04:51:58] | pab: | bRuZdEGO: Well, although he is FC centric, good stuff. http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/ |
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| [04:53:45] | bRuZdEGO: | thanks |
| [04:53:48] | bRuZdEGO: | I find that most of the buttons dont work |
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| [04:56:20] | bRuZdEGO: | and that the /var/log/lirc log file has lots of "error reading" |
| [04:57:28] | pab: | bRuzdEGO: I don't run usb so don't think I can help any further...but great progess! |
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| [04:57:51] | Gumby: | does anyone here have issues with the font in their guide being way too small? I cant figure out how to change it |
| [04:58:09] | Gumby: | my OSD font is perfect |
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| [04:59:34] | Dagmar: | Have you found the part where you set the pt size for three fonts, small, medium, and big? |
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| [05:15:13] | bRuZdEGO: | progress ftw |
| [05:16:19] | pab: | tehe |
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| [05:24:29] | bluef0x: | anyone have problems with their mythtv messing up when trying to fast forward? everything has been fine for 2 weeks, but now when i fast forward it gets all glitchy and loops the same 10 seconds over and over while it fast forwards |
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| [05:27:33] | bluef0x: | also i tried to fastforward one recording and if i went faster than 3x it would go back to the main menu and ask if i wanted to delete it |
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| [05:34:12] | bRuZdEGO: | i'm getting no where now thou |
| [05:34:20] | bRuZdEGO: | I would expect these other buttons to do something |
| [05:34:54] | bRuZdEGO: | and i've tried irrecord --driver=dvico --device /dev/input/event2 and as soon as i hit a button |
| [05:34:56] | bRuZdEGO: | it goes nuts |
| [05:35:15] | bRuZdEGO: | jsut spans error reading |
| [05:38:23] | Dagmar: | Try the lirc-users mailing list |
| [05:39:03] | pab: | bRuXdEGO: Understand...I am a noob....but isn't irrecord used to manual set up your keys....I thought you said you already had a file? |
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| [05:41:39] | WileECoyote: | can someone tell me where mythtv receives its broadcasting feeds? |
| [05:42:07] | LoneShadow_: | Is there any open issues with 0.19-fixed for mythfrontend and buffering ? |
| [05:42:48] | bRuZdEGO: | you less of a n00b than me man... pab. ;) |
| [05:43:04] | bRuZdEGO: | yeah, it is. :) you are right... but I get the impression this lircd.conf isn't working too well. |
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| [05:44:23] | pab: | bRuZdEGO: Did you go to wilson....he uses hdtv (didn't you say you were) and It may help shed some light....btw thanks ;) |
| [05:45:40] | bRuZdEGO: | since i'm getting all these wonderful Jul 12 12:51:24 mythtv lircd: error reading '/dev/input/event2' errors |
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| [05:46:52] | bRuZdEGO: | nah, i'm using dvico fusion.hdtv dual blah |
| [05:47:21] | bRuZdEGO: | let me go there again. I can not even remember.. so much reading has been completed. |
| [05:50:14] | bRuZdEGO: | he isn't even using digital cards |
| [05:50:23] | bRuZdEGO: | using hauppauge pvr 350's, with ivtv |
| [05:50:41] | bRuZdEGO: | it's alright, I get the impression i'll have a lot more success when I actually have mythtv installed |
| [05:50:57] | bRuZdEGO: | i'm not even that far yet. :) |
| [05:51:32] | pab: | bRuZdEGO: OMG....lirc was the LAST thing I worried about lol |
| [05:53:36] | bRuZdEGO: | yeah, I know.. I was just excited about the remote |
| [05:53:41] | bRuZdEGO: | so I started playing with it and got totally distracted |
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| [05:55:51] | bRuZdEGO: | i'm ganna go and install xmltv and call it a day. :) |
| [05:57:11] | Dagmar: | heheh |
| [05:57:21] | Dagmar: | One word: `cpan` |
| [05:57:23] | Dagmar: | It's a command. |
| [05:57:29] | Dagmar: | You're probably going to need it. |
| [05:57:50] | ** joffray shivers at cpan ** | |
| [06:05:45] | bRuZdEGO: | oh, your tlaking about xmltv |
| [06:05:47] | bRuZdEGO: | i've installed that before |
| [06:05:49] | bRuZdEGO: | it's np |
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| [06:16:17] | bRuZdEGO: | hhmmm, xmltv |
| [06:16:24] | bRuZdEGO: | perl Makefile.PL |
| [06:16:28] | bRuZdEGO: | doesn't go, bums out |
| [06:16:31] | bRuZdEGO: | something to work out tomorrow |
| [06:16:33] | bRuZdEGO: | tonight i'm going |
| [06:16:35] | bRuZdEGO: | night |
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| [06:45:39] | pab: | nuvexport on remote PC using ffmpeg...how to disable -hq option? |
| [06:47:59] | joffray: | -lq |
| [06:48:33] | pab: | joffray: that would be nuvexport -lq ? |
| [06:48:44] | joffray: | yea, that should work |
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| [06:56:34] | pab: | crud...still sits at 0 of blah frames. Will let it run for a while (don't know why). I've heard if I downgraded ffmpeg it might work better? |
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| [07:17:14] | Gumby: | does anyone here know where mythgame looks for roms? |
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| [07:20:36] | Tanthrix: | Could anyone venture a guess why adding -cache 16000 to the mplayer command in MythVideo would start two instances of mplayer at once? |
| [07:20:55] | joffray: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Configur . . . me_Emulation |
| [07:21:10] | Tanthrix: | The total command is this: mplayer -fs -cache 16000 |
| [07:21:35] | joffray: | hmmmmm |
| [07:21:54] | joffray: | two completely distinct instances? |
| [07:22:01] | joffray: | not just the viewing part and the navigation part |
| [07:22:31] | Tanthrix: | Well, no GUI, just mplayer. But you bring up a good point...maybe mplayer runs a separate process for caching... |
| [07:23:18] | Tanthrix: | Interesting – it does the same thing at the command line as well. |
| [07:23:59] | Tanthrix: | Thanks! |
| [07:24:21] | Tanthrix: | I feel stupid for not just trying it at the command line by itself to begin with... |
| [07:24:58] | joffray: | hmmm |
| [07:25:01] | joffray: | I see what you mean |
| [07:25:04] | Tanthrix: | Was wondering if LIRC was misbehaving and triggering multiple instances at first, then thought it was mythvideo, but it looks like this is just standard mplayer behavior for cashing. |
| [07:25:12] | Tanthrix: | caching* |
| [07:26:00] | Tanthrix: | I was actually getting 8 instances of mplayer at first, and then I fixed my lircrc, which I presumed would have brought it back down to one. |
| [07:27:15] | Tanthrix: | Only one of the mplayer processes uses any significant amount of CPU, so I originally thought that one of them just wasn't starting because audio was not available due to the first. |
| [07:27:23] | Tanthrix: | In any case, thanks for helping me to clear that up. |
| [07:27:27] | Tanthrix: | Gotta run, g'night |
| [07:27:28] | joffray: | my bet is that one instance caches &pipes the data to the other |
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| [08:05:31] | Gumby: | does anyone here know where mythgame looks for roms by default? |
| [08:06:49] | dorel__: | how does the skip-commercial thing works? |
| [08:07:04] | dorel__: | im browsing through the tv settings and i see 'commercial skip method: logo detection" |
| [08:07:21] | dorel__: | sounds interesting |
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| [08:08:28] | qu0zl: | logo detection checks each frame for a static image in the corners. A lot of channels show their logo during shows but not during ad breaks |
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| [08:08:38] | qu0zl: | thats the one that works the best for me with UK/Irish channels |
| [08:08:53] | qu0zl: | there's others that do blank frame detection and if i remember right aspect ratio changes |
| [08:09:11] | dorel__: | sounds cool :P |
| [08:09:39] | qu0zl: | it is :) |
| [08:10:06] | dorel__: | damn the back/exit button is pressed twice all the time |
| [08:10:59] | joffray: | Gumby: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Configur . . . me_Emulation |
| [08:11:22] | joffray: | dorel: I have it set to "use all methods" |
| [08:11:35] | joffray: | and then I also have "strict commercial detection" enabled |
| [08:12:03] | dorel__: | ahh |
| [08:12:07] | dorel__: | does it work good for you? |
| [08:12:12] | joffray: | yea |
| [08:12:34] | joffray: | works 90–95% of the time |
| [08:12:57] | joffray: | once in a while it'll miss one |
| [08:12:57] | qu0zl: | dorel__, you'll need to try different settings. different ones work best for different countries depending on the tv channels they get |
| [08:13:02] | joffray: | yea |
| [08:13:07] | joffray: | I'm in america |
| [08:18:01] | dorel__: | ahh |
| [08:18:06] | dorel__: | what happens on commercial detection? |
| [08:20:48] | dorel__: | damn these lirc configurations |
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| [08:25:18] | joffray: | a flag is inserted into the database so that on playback it will do whatever behavior you define |
| [08:25:30] | joffray: | when it arrives at the commercial detection point |
| [08:25:46] | dorel__: | ahh ok |
| [08:27:18] | joffray: | most people have it skip to when the show resumes |
| [08:27:53] | dorel__: | makes sense :P |
| [08:32:19] | joffray: | time for bed |
| [08:34:59] | dorel__: | goodnight joffray |
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| [08:42:07] | PaulWay: | How goes, people? |
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| [08:54:43] | asd26: | dudes how do i change my mythtv time |
| [08:54:48] | asd26: | its off |
| [08:55:05] | qu0zl: | it's the same as your system time |
| [08:55:18] | qu0zl: | use the 'date' command, or better yet install ntpdate on your machine |
| [08:55:24] | qu0zl: | so it syncs with atomic clocks every reboot |
| [08:55:33] | PaulWay: | yes, ntpdate is teh roxors! |
| [08:55:38] | qu0zl: | if you never reboot it, then install ntp so it syncs all the time anyway |
| [08:55:48] | ** PaulWay practices his leet-duud accent. ** | |
| [08:56:14] | PaulWay: | If you're using anything like a modern distro, ntp and ntpdate should already be present and set up. |
| [08:56:25] | PaulWay: | The question is: how much is it off by? |
| [08:56:42] | qu0zl: | well debian doesn't install it by default, and not comments about 'modern' :P |
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| [08:57:03] | asd26: | 3 hours |
| [08:57:12] | asd26: | change bios? |
| [08:57:39] | asd26: | UTC? |
| [08:57:45] | asd26: | is there script for time? |
| [08:59:06] | asd26: | date %r 6:58:56 P |
| [08:59:08] | asd26: | ? |
| [08:59:10] | qu0zl: | isntall ntpdate |
| [08:59:23] | qu0zl: | if it's just the wrong timezone |
| [08:59:24] | qu0zl: | then fix that |
| [08:59:34] | qu0zl: | eg if it's off by exactly3 hours, then that's a TZ issue |
| [09:03:20] | asd26: | mabe i put the wrong timezone |
| [09:04:55] | asd26: | fixed it changed the bios time |
| [09:06:18] | qu0zl: | Linux often expects your bios to be set to UTC, so if it's not set to UTC even if you set the correct TZ then you can end up with it wrong inside Linux. Glad you got it sorted anyway |
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| [09:10:26] | Dagmar: | That depends entirely on how hwclock was invoked to set the software clock based on the BIOS clock. |
| [09:11:06] | Dagmar: | Unlike Windows, Linux should have no problems whether the hardware clock is in UTC/GMT or localtime, *if it's properly configured* |
| [09:11:44] | Dagmar: | TZ is there so that local users who might be shelled in remotely will get their local time for date strings, instead of the time for the timezone the host is in |
| [09:12:39] | dorel__: | thats odd. when im editing text with the virtual keyboard thing, when i'm pressing the OK key it's typing "m" (the letter) in the text area. |
| [09:12:42] | Dagmar: | ...and yes, there's a way to make Windows simply keep the hardware clock in UTC, but the last time it worked correctly was NT 3.51. It's gotten more and more broken since then |
| [09:13:03] | Dagmar: | YOu really do *not* want to try doing it with XP. It gets things horribly, horribly wrong. |
| [09:13:55] | asd26: | dudes i might get rid of my 51cm tube tv and replace it with 19inch 3.4 LCD |
| [09:13:59] | Dagmar: | (Big) maybe with Vista it will work correctly again, since they claim they're dumping DOS-compatibility, and that was the reason that it would have to have the hardware clock stored in localtime |
| [09:14:01] | asd26: | quality looks bad |
| [09:14:32] | Dagmar: | asd26: Dark areas will look kind of darker than they should, but you can tweak around that. |
| [09:14:34] | asd26: | anyone know any cheap RGB to compoment converters |
| [09:14:41] | Dagmar: | The LCD will almost certainly have a sharper picture |
| [09:15:15] | Dagmar: | What, to convert from composite out to RGB? |
| [09:15:18] | asd26: | $300 dollars 1024x768 would be teh res |
| [09:15:39] | asd26: | RGB to compoment |
| [09:16:05] | asd26: | i currently have it running from svideo to composite cable |
| [09:16:20] | Dagmar: | You're not going to notice a resolution difference with 480 broadcasts |
| [09:16:34] | asd26: | my tv only has composite and compoment |
| [09:16:35] | Dagmar: | I don't think there's such a thing as a cheap version of that |
| [09:16:43] | Dagmar: | Most of the ones I've seen were >$100 |
| [09:16:54] | Dagmar: | It's not a trivial conversion like it is with s-video to composite |
| [09:17:10] | asd26: | Dagmar might as well get a $300 dollar LCD screen |
| [09:17:30] | Dagmar: | If you're lucky the thing will simply have a VGA input |
| [09:17:44] | asd26: | Dagmar svideo to composite cost me $5 dollars |
| [09:17:45] | Dagmar: | That simplifies things LOTS. |
| [09:18:01] | Dagmar: | Yeah, because that's basically just connecting some wires and an optional resistor or two |
| [09:18:06] | Dagmar: | RGB to anything else is more complex. |
| [09:18:11] | asd26: | quality would be much better i guess |
| [09:18:30] | asd26: | $300 dollar lost geting an LCD tv |
| [09:18:33] | Dagmar: | What are you using for oputput now |
| [09:18:45] | asd26: | 51cm tube tv |
| [09:18:52] | Dagmar: | No, from the computer end of things |
| [09:18:53] | asd26: | cost me $189 |
| [09:19:07] | asd26: | s-video to composite on the back of the tv |
| [09:19:15] | Dagmar: | I spent $99 on a 19" TV and I'm considering just ditching it for another refurb'd 19" monitor |
| [09:19:27] | Dagmar: | So you're using the s-video output on your video card then |
| [09:19:33] | asd26: | yeah |
| [09:19:39] | Dagmar: | An LCD is practically guaranteed to have an s-video input |
| [09:19:51] | Dagmar: | Newer/better ones will have VGA and HDMI as well |
| [09:19:59] | asd26: | yeah |
| [09:20:04] | asd26: | compoment is enough |
| [09:20:36] | dorel__: | strangest thing, if i quit mythfrontend, pkill lircd, run lircd again, the "m" problem disappears. |
| [09:20:40] | Dagmar: | Typically only models aimed at studio work (and freaking' Sun monitors) use RGB |
| [09:21:08] | dorel__: | oh not only that, every key is pressed twice |
| [09:22:02] | qu0zl: | have you tried messing around with the lirc repeat settings dorel__? |
| [09:22:19] | qu0zl: | they affect how long a remote button needs to be pressed down to be considered multiple presses |
| [09:22:21] | Dagmar: | asd26: By the way, the reason monitors show dark areas as much darker is because the gamma range is markedly different |
| [09:22:41] | Dagmar: | Go for a remote that uses the rc5 protocol |
| [09:22:50] | Dagmar: | I hate the ones that just spam the code for the key over and over |
| [09:23:13] | dorel__: | qu0zl: repeat = 4 means that it waits 4 seconds before sending the key press again? |
| [09:23:14] | Dagmar: | One4All makes a *really* inexpensive programmable one meant for use with PVRs |
| [09:23:30] | qu0zl: | nope dorel__, it means it treats every 4th repeated key signal as a new keypress |
| [09:23:38] | qu0zl: | you may get many keypress signals a second |
| [09:23:40] | qu0zl: | depends on remote |
| [09:23:53] | Dagmar: | Crappy ones just send "button X pressed" over and over while you have the button down |
| [09:23:56] | qu0zl: | mess around with it till you find a setting that works for you (hopefully) |
| [09:24:16] | Dagmar: | More intelligent ones behave a lot more like XT keyboards. |
| [09:24:29] | dorel__: | but this doesnt seem a problem with the repeat thing |
| [09:25:03] | dorel__: | im editing a box and when that virtual keyboard appears when im pressing the OK key its sending the letter 'm' to the text area – its another problem than repeating |
| [09:25:07] | Dagmar: | Yeah, I thikn possibly the issue is that maybe lircd is sending the app keypresses, and the app is also reading the keypresses |
| [09:25:31] | Dagmar: | That would explain doubled presses, but that kind of tangle isn't supposed to happen |
| [09:25:54] | Dagmar: | I'm still working on figuring out how lircd works with this stuff, so I can't be sure about whether or not that's possible |
| [09:26:13] | dorel__: | yeah no matter what i press on, for the OK key on the remote im getting the letter 'm' on the screen |
| [09:26:18] | dorel__: | whats up with that |
| [09:27:29] | dorel__: | i dont know to tell what is wrong |
| [09:27:49] | dorel__: | but if i close mythfrontend and kill lircd, then restart lircd and then mythfrontend the problem disappears |
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| [09:32:03] | asd26: | anyone running my tv with a LCD monitor? |
| [09:35:27] | Dagmar: | asd26: I've done it. What is it that you're actually needing to know? |
| [09:35:53] | Dagmar: | dorel__: I guess maybe make sure only *one* instance of lircd is running. It could be that simple. |
| [09:36:15] | Dagmar: | dorel__: When it's screwing up, ssh into it or switch to another vt and grep the process list |
| [09:37:23] | dorel__: | thats what im doing |
| [09:38:26] | dorel__: | Dagmar: would you care to check? http://pastebin.ca/85932 |
| [09:39:27] | dorel__: | oh nevermind |
| [09:39:29] | dorel__: | i see the problem |
| [09:39:51] | dorel__: | i got irxevent running with button OK configured to send the M key to the window |
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| [09:40:10] | dorel__: | prog = irxevent; button = OK; repeat = 3; config = Key M CurrentWindow; |
| [09:40:11] | dorel__: | thanks guys |
| [09:40:14] | Dagmar: | heh |
| [09:40:25] | Dagmar: | I thought about suggesting checking that but it seemed too obvious |
| [09:40:35] | dorel__: | ok im rebooting to make sure |
| [09:40:38] | dorel__: | :) |
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| [09:51:41] | asd26: | what is .lircrc linked to again? |
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| [10:12:42] | flatface: | Quick question, I don't see it anywhere obvious — Does MythTV support on-demand services (specifically, Rogers On Demand)? |
| [10:20:25] | flatface: | Just found my answer, nm |
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| [10:35:24] | asd26: | dudes creating mythtv as secruity system a good idea? |
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| [10:40:10] | PaulWay: | asd26: It's a bit difficult. It could be done, but the question in my mind is why? |
| [10:40:21] | PaulWay: | MissActek: Another internode user! 'ray! |
| [10:41:17] | PaulWay: | Can anyone help me with a problem I'm having with finishing watching a pre-recorded show in mythfrontend and it immediately going back into watching mode? |
| [10:41:33] | MissActek: | Heh. :) |
| [10:41:42] | MissActek: | I do like Internode now. |
| [10:41:55] | PaulWay: | I've got a paste of the mythfrontend logs at http://pastebin.ca/84874 – lines 34–39 are the interesting ones. |
| [10:42:15] | PaulWay: | MissActek: You're in Hobart – did you get any snow today? |
| [10:42:31] | PaulWay: | And what ISP did you come from? |
| [10:45:17] | MissActek: | I'm not in Hobart. :P |
| [10:45:29] | MissActek: | I was on Bigpond until the rebate ran out. |
| [10:45:56] | PaulWay: | Oh, odd – your domain would suggest you're in hobart – maybe I'm reading it wrong. Homebush Bay? |
| [10:46:37] | MissActek: | Launceston. :P |
| [10:46:54] | PaulWay: | Ah, of course. lns1.hba1. |
| [10:47:02] | ** PaulWay thwacks forehead theatrically. ** | |
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| [10:47:43] | MissActek: | Hm. You wouldn't happen to have a DViCO FusionHDTV DVB-T Plus card, would you PaulWay? |
| [10:47:58] | PaulWay: | No, but I know people who do. |
| [10:48:04] | PaulWay: | Problems? |
| [10:48:07] | MissActek: | Yeah... |
| [10:48:21] | MissActek: | Grepped from dmesg: cx88-dvb: probe of 0000:01:08.2 failed with error -1 |
| [10:48:41] | PaulWay: | Have you got any options set for it in your modprobe conf? |
| [10:48:53] | ** MissActek looks clueless < ^.^;> ** | |
| [10:49:05] | MissActek: | Options? |
| [10:49:25] | PaulWay: | Have a look at the page http://www.itee.uq.edu.au/~chrisp/Linux-DVB/DVICO/ |
| [10:49:37] | MissActek: | Okay, thanks... |
| [10:49:40] | PaulWay: | the options line goes in /etc/modprobe.conf |
| [10:50:15] | PaulWay: | Yeah, here we are. Put the line 'options cx88 card=19,19,19' into /etc/modprobe.conf, otherwise it gets detected as the wrong type. |
| [10:51:20] | MissActek: | Okay... I'll try that. :) |
| [10:51:27] | PaulWay: | You may have to restart in order to get it to work correctly. |
| [10:51:43] | MissActek: | Okay... |
| [10:51:50] | MissActek: | Where'd you find that information anyway? |
| [10:52:02] | PaulWay: | Although you can probably get away with doing a 'rmmod cx88-dvb ; modprobe -v cx88-dvb' |
| [10:52:14] | PaulWay: | Ah, someone posted it on the CLUG list a couple of days ago. |
| [10:52:18] | PaulWay: | Where's that URL. |
| [10:52:56] | MissActek: | Well, won't matter if it works. |
| [10:53:02] | PaulWay: | http://lists.samba.org/archive/linux/2006-July/thread.html |
| [10:53:08] | MissActek: | Hope it gets fixed so you don't have to add that line though. |
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| [10:53:42] | PaulWay: | I'm wondering if that will work, since it's a DVB card and the card that the post refers to was a DigitalNow DNTV Live! card. |
| [10:53:50] | PaulWay: | I may have given you the wrong info. |
| [10:53:54] | MissActek: | Oh.. |
| [10:54:51] | MissActek: | Still failing with that -1 error. |
| [10:55:06] | PaulWay: | Yeah, looks like I got excited. That options line will probably not work. |
| [10:55:09] | MissActek: | Seems someone on the gentoo forums has the same issue, unresolved so far. |
| [10:55:10] | PaulWay: | Sorry. |
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| [10:56:18] | PaulWay: | There's some good posts on the linuxdvb.org site... |
| [10:58:39] | ** MissActek looks around ** | |
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| [10:59:40] | asd26: | lack of sunlight lead to death? |
| [11:00:04] | PaulWay: | Sure. |
| [11:01:18] | asd26: | so gamers are in trouble? |
| [11:02:22] | MissActek: | Am I supposed to have a /dev/dvb? |
| [11:02:33] | PaulWay: | Yes, according to theory. |
| [11:02:42] | MissActek: | Well that's not there... |
| [11:02:46] | PaulWay: | If not you'll have to do the ugly kludge I'm forced to. |
| [11:03:50] | PaulWay: | Where did I put it now? |
| [11:07:33] | PaulWay: | Try http://tangram.dnsalias.net/~paulway/dvbt_path_setup |
| [11:07:47] | PaulWay: | Put a call to that in /etc/rc.d/rc.local so that it gets called on bootup. |
| [11:08:20] | PaulWay: | It's ugly as John Howard and I really should find out whether it's necessary any more, but there you go. |
| [11:08:40] | PaulWay: | Aaactually, I think I'll put a couple of checks in there, in case udev has finally got around to working. |
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| [11:08:51] | Juski: | evening |
| [11:08:53] | MissActek: | So don't look yet? :P |
| [11:09:21] | Merlin83b: | Hi Juski. |
| [11:13:09] | Juski: | hi Merlin83b. fixed the timezone snafu in zenslack.. just have to work out the keymapping now – which'd be made much easier if there was any documentation about the keybinding stuff.. i.e. what to put in the fields. wth are the keys called? My money is on the linuxy definitions but that's not proven yet |
| [11:13:33] | PaulWay: | MissActek: No, no, look, use it, just don't consider it a work of art... :-/ |
| [11:14:12] | Merlin83b: | Sounds good Juski – I'm heading Stateside for a couple of weeks tomorrow morning. I'll expect a fully working S100 to be at my doorstep on my return ;-) |
| [11:16:34] | MissActek: | Okay, I'll try it. |
| [11:19:54] | sapbeast: | evening? damn its only 7am here |
| [11:20:24] | Juski: | heh. evening. I was being weird for the sake of it again |
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| [11:21:37] | asd26: | dudes where does /home/mythtv/.lircrc link with again? |
| [11:22:39] | Juski: | ~/.mythtv/lircrc |
| [11:22:43] | Juski: | again |
| [11:24:03] | PaulWay: | Can anyone help me with a problem I'm having with finishing watching a pre-recorded show in mythfrontend and it immediately going back into watching mode? |
| [11:24:12] | asd26: | I've retired from tv_grab_au |
| [11:24:20] | PaulWay: | I've got a paste of the mythfrontend logs at http://pastebin.ca/84874 – lines 34–39 are the interesting ones. |
| [11:24:30] | PaulWay: | asd26: Which version of tv_grab_au? |
| [11:27:06] | asd26: | immir |
| [11:27:22] | PaulWay: | Ah, yes, you poor soul. |
| [11:27:46] | asd26: | listings is good, but the trouble is not worth it |
| [11:27:52] | PaulWay: | I maintained a similar one until it drove me stark staring mad. |
| [11:28:10] | asd26: | might as well use a paper guide |
| [11:28:50] | PaulWay: | Try using the guide at http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~willu/xmltv/tv_grab_au_reg.html |
| [11:29:11] | PaulWay: | It's based on http://www.tvguide.org.au, which is a free-to-use Australian TV guide that the OzTivo people set up. |
| [11:29:48] | PaulWay: | About the only catch is that you have to register a username and password with tvguide.org.au in order to get customised data. |
| [11:30:02] | PaulWay: | (i.e. customised to your state and region and channel setup). |
| [11:30:09] | asd26: | nano /home/mythtv/.lircrc |
| [11:30:21] | asd26: | where is the other one again? |
| [11:30:28] | PaulWay: | But it loads the data in about ten seconds, and is completely free to use. |
| [11:30:34] | ** PaulWay stops his sales pitch. ** | |
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| [11:34:11] | dorel__: | hmm, how do i get mythtv to play dvd/cds with media files on them like a burned mpeg/vcd/svcd/divx file on a cdrom? |
| [11:35:23] | Juski: | dorel__: you don't – not without doing some work |
| [11:36:08] | Juski: | have the drive automount to a directory, and link the directory to your videos directory |
| [11:36:49] | Juski: | e.g. videos are stored in /myth/video – so you'd have /myth/video/removable .. then mount the disc to /myth/video/removable |
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| [11:42:52] | PaulWay: | But wouldn't that require a rescan? |
| [11:43:21] | Juski: | PaulWay: not necessarily |
| [11:43:39] | Juski: | not everything has to use metadata |
| [11:44:17] | Juski: | blech. when I've bought this spindle of cdrs for the show that's it – not gonna spend any more money on it |
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| [11:44:37] | Juski: | "free as in beer" == "the kindness of strangers" |
| [11:48:12] | Juski: | http://www.eff.org/corrupt/ |
| [12:16:28] | MissActek: | Huh. |
| [12:16:41] | MissActek: | Looks like a simple kernel upgrade might've fixed it. |
| [12:17:21] | MissActek: | Shame. I'd have prefered to stay with the stable branch's kernel. |
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| [12:27:15] | MissActek: | PaulWay, what do you use for your TV guide grabber? |
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| [12:30:01] | PaulWay: | MissActek: I use the grabber at http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~willu/xmltv/tv_grab_au_reg.html and the guide data from http://www.tvguide.org.au |
| [12:30:23] | PaulWay: | MissActek: You're using debian-stable? |
| [12:33:58] | PaulWay: | Sorry, I'm asking too many questions :-)_ |
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| [12:35:51] | MissActek: | Was AFK. |
| [12:35:55] | MissActek: | No, I use Gentoo. |
| [12:36:22] | MissActek: | tvguide.org.au is the pay one isn't it? |
| [12:37:18] | PaulWay: | No, that's free. |
| [12:37:25] | PaulWay: | icetv.com.au is the pay one. |
| [12:38:04] | MissActek: | Ahh... okay. |
| [12:38:22] | MissActek: | How accurate is tvguide.org.au? |
| [12:38:29] | PaulWay: | It's pretty good. |
| [12:38:34] | PaulWay: | I've never seen a real problem. |
| [12:39:14] | PaulWay: | The only (minor) disadvantage is that it doesn't always hold the next seven days, although it always holds more than two days. |
| [12:39:33] | PaulWay: | So on Monday you can't see the TV guide for the coming Sunday. |
| [12:39:38] | PaulWay: | But to me that is a minor problem. |
| [12:40:05] | MissActek: | It's a bit or a shame there's no way to grab from ourguide.com.au |
| [12:40:41] | MissActek: | of* |
| [12:41:26] | MissActek: | Hm, playing TV is using around 18% of my CPU... :P |
| [12:41:34] | PaulWay: | The problem is one of legality. |
| [12:41:45] | MissActek: | Point. |
| [12:41:49] | PaulWay: | That's hardly a problem. Let us know when it gets up to 85%. |
| [12:41:50] | PaulWay: | :-) |
| [12:42:02] | MissActek: | Ah, but what will recording be like if watching is like that? |
| [12:42:20] | PaulWay: | You're using a DVB-T card, aren't you? |
| [12:42:28] | PaulWay: | Recording is <1%. |
| [12:42:39] | PaulWay: | It literally takes the MPEG2 transport stream straight off the air and dumps it onto disk. |
| [12:42:40] | MissActek: | DVB-T yeah. |
| [12:42:45] | MissActek: | Good. :D |
| [12:42:48] | MissActek: | That's what I thought it should do. |
| [12:43:31] | MissActek: | Now if I can just figure out how to control MythTV like this. :P |
| [12:43:39] | PaulWay: | You then transcode it down after the show is recorded, either automatically or manually. |
| [12:43:48] | PaulWay: | 'like this'? |
| [12:44:01] | MissActek: | Always just used it as a shell for xine before. |
| [12:44:09] | MissActek: | Never used the TV watching part. |
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| [12:46:13] | PaulWay: | Ah, the world awaits you! |
| [12:47:40] | MissActek: | Maybe I'll just set up lirc next. |
| [12:48:29] | PaulWay: | Yes, good idea. |
| [12:48:34] | PaulWay: | Good luck with that, I've tried and failed. |
| [12:49:06] | dorel__: | is there a better server than ftp.nerim.net for mencoder and all those apps? |
| [12:49:14] | dorel__: | cause its really slow for me, i cant download anything |
| [12:53:30] | PaulWay: | What distro are you using, dorel__ ? |
| [12:54:55] | dorel__: | debian unstable/sid |
| [12:58:03] | dorel__: | oh man, i now accidently removed mplayer and transcode and i cant get them back :P |
| [12:58:45] | PaulWay: | doesn't one of the repositories have mplayer for debian? |
| [13:03:44] | dorel__: | doesnt seem like it |
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| [13:13:45] | scopeuk: | PaulWay you have to add non-free repositories |
| [13:13:59] | PaulWay: | Yeah, true. |
| [13:14:03] | scopeuk: | dorel__ even you have to add the non-free reposatories/marrilat |
| [13:14:10] | dorel__: | non o |
| [13:14:12] | dorel__: | found the problem |
| [13:14:14] | PaulWay: | And I know that's against the spirit of debian. |
| [13:14:21] | dorel__: | the guy from nerim.net changed the repository :) |
| [13:14:22] | PaulWay: | But I use Fedora. |
| [13:14:26] | dorel__: | damn it, i feel like killing someone |
| [13:14:37] | dorel__: | http://hpisi.nerim.net/ |
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| [13:14:46] | dorel__: | from his website " Why Marillat's repository doesn't work ? Because now the repository is here debian-multimedia.org" |
| [13:14:53] | dorel__: | hehe |
| [13:15:03] | gnychis: | i have the remote control that is grey on top and black on the back from a wintv pvr-150 card, and i can't seem to get it to work with lirc |
| [13:15:06] | Dagmar: | Very subtly put |
| [13:15:20] | gnychis: | everytime i do "irw" to test it, i get "connect: Connection refused" |
| [13:15:52] | dorel__: | gnychis: let me help you |
| [13:16:04] | dorel__: | gnychis: show me the output of ls -al /dev/lirc* |
| [13:16:21] | gnychis: | dorel__: thanks, srw-rw-rw- 1 root root 0 Jul 11 16:18 /dev/lircd |
| [13:17:50] | dorel__: | gnychis: and lsmod | grep lirc |
| [13:18:24] | gnychis: | http://rafb.net/paste/results/4jU6jV21.html |
| [13:19:29] | dorel__: | if you run lircd, does it exit with an error or can you see it in 'ps aux'? |
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| [13:21:07] | gnychis: | dorel__: hmmm... i can start it, it will show up in ps aux, but when i do "irw" it seems to crash and irw returns the prompt to me with no error |
| [13:22:37] | dorel__: | gnychis: i see. are you running irw with root or your own mythtv user? |
| [13:23:05] | gnychis: | dorel__: i found some messages in /var/log/messages http://rafb.net/paste/results/PO13KG79.html |
| [13:23:09] | gnychis: | as root for now |
| [13:23:55] | dorel__: | i see |
| [13:24:05] | dorel__: | gnychis: try this: ln -s /dev/lirc /dev/lirc0 |
| [13:24:46] | gnychis: | dorel__: same errors |
| [13:24:56] | gnychis: | errr wait, you forgot a / |
| [13:25:18] | dorel__: | no, i didnt forget, its like that |
| [13:25:25] | dorel__: | same errors? ok |
| [13:25:28] | dorel__: | lets try something else |
| [13:25:34] | gnychis: | same errors |
| [13:25:47] | dorel__: | ok do this |
| [13:25:49] | dorel__: | pkill lircd |
| [13:25:52] | dorel__: | (all as root) |
| [13:26:55] | gnychis: | okay |
| [13:27:35] | dorel__: | lircd -d /dev/lirc0 |
| [13:28:09] | dorel__: | after you run it, check /var/log/syslog or messages for any errors |
| [13:28:43] | gnychis: | dorel__: i think a problem might be the fact that /dev/lirc0 is pointed to /dev/lirc, which doesn't exist |
| [13:28:56] | dorel__: | hold on |
| [13:29:06] | gnychis: | but no new messages came up |
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| [13:29:10] | alsoconfused: | gnychis: is there anything about lirc in /etc/modprobe.conf ? |
| [13:29:40] | gnychis: | alsoconfused: i don't think so |
| [13:29:49] | gnychis: | (as in, i checked, but don't see anything) |
| [13:30:02] | alsoconfused: | add this line: alias char-major-61* lirc |
| [13:30:51] | gnychis: | then run modules-update? |
| [13:31:26] | alsoconfused: | rmmod lirc lirc_i2c lirc_dev; modprove lirc |
| [13:31:36] | alsoconfused: | s/modprove/modprobe/ |
| [13:32:17] | alsoconfused: | then ls -l /dev/lirc* |
| [13:32:28] | gnychis: | ERROR: Module lirc does not exist in /proc/modules |
| [13:32:33] | gnychis: | it was there just a second ago |
| [13:32:58] | alsoconfused: | that's okay |
| [13:33:29] | gnychis: | FATAL: Module lirc not found. |
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| [13:33:41] | alsoconfused: | modprobe lirc_dev |
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| [13:34:18] | gnychis: | that worked, but still no new devices in /dev |
| [13:34:56] | alsoconfused: | mknod /dev/lirc c 61 0 |
| [13:36:01] | gnychis: | still bombs with the same errors |
| [13:36:06] | gnychis: | could not get file information for /dev/lirc/0 |
| [13:36:08] | alsoconfused: | gnychis: actually, it looks like your config wants /dev/lirc/0 |
| [13:36:40] | gnychis: | let me restart it |
| [13:36:41] | melunko: | Hi, when playing a record, I always get the message "Taking too long to be allowed to read.." |
| [13:36:46] | alsoconfused: | okay, try rm /dev/lirc; mkdir /dev/lirc;mknod /dev/lirc/0 c 61 0 |
| [13:37:00] | melunko: | Anybody has any idea? |
| [13:38:43] | gnychis: | "could not open /dev/lirc/0" |
| [13:38:48] | gnychis: | crw-r--r-- 1 root root 61, 0 Jul 12 09:38 /dev/lirc/0 |
| [13:40:15] | alsoconfused: | gnychis: grep 61 /proc/devices |
| [13:41:02] | gnychis: | 18: 61 BaseRemoteCtl |
| [13:41:20] | alsoconfused: | okay, that's what i have |
| [13:41:34] | alsoconfused: | gnychis: how are you starting lircd? |
| [13:42:35] | gnychis: | alsoconfused: "lircd" |
| [13:43:02] | alsoconfused: | gnychis: is this an ivtv card? |
| [13:43:27] | gnychis: | alsoconfused: yep |
| [13:43:56] | alsoconfused: | is the backend shut down now? |
| [13:44:20] | gnychis: | mythbackend is running |
| [13:44:34] | alsoconfused: | shut it down and see if you can rmmod ivtv |
| [13:45:08] | gnychis: | alsoconfused: yep |
| [13:45:43] | alsoconfused: | rmmod lirc_i2c lirc_dev |
| [13:45:57] | alsoconfused: | modprobe lirc_i2c && modprobe ivtv && modprobe lirc_dev |
| [13:47:37] | gnychis: | okay, seemed successful, now what? |
| [13:47:59] | alsoconfused: | gnychis: which distro? |
| [13:48:06] | gnychis: | gentoo |
| [13:48:26] | alsoconfused: | emerge something? |
| [13:48:35] | alsoconfused: | no idea... sorry |
| [13:48:42] | gnychis: | by the way, check this to make sure: http://rafb.net/paste/results/KNU6He62.html |
| [13:48:42] | melunko: | hi, how could I play the recorded .nuv file? |
| [13:48:52] | gnychis: | alsoconfused: do you want me to start the backend? |
| [13:48:56] | melunko: | mplayer just give me a black screen |
| [13:48:59] | alsoconfused: | i would imagine that most of what we did can be automated in modprobe.conf |
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| [13:49:09] | alsoconfused: | gnychis: sure |
| [13:50:35] | gnychis: | and now lircd? |
| [13:50:51] | alsoconfused: | gnychis: i thought lircd was already running |
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| [13:51:08] | gnychis: | doesn't seem to be |
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| [13:51:49] | alsoconfused: | ahh, then start lircd and run the irw test |
| [13:52:49] | alsoconfused: | what, can't open /dev/lirc/0 ? |
| [13:53:49] | gnychis: | yep |
| [13:54:32] | alsoconfused: | cat /dev/lirc/0 |
| [13:54:56] | gnychis: | cat: /dev/lirc/0: No such device |
| [13:55:06] | alsoconfused: | if it doesn't give an error, try hitting a few buttons on the remote |
| [13:55:15] | gnychis: | 27 |
| [13:55:38] | alsoconfused: | what is 27? |
| [13:55:41] | gnychis: | sorry, wrong window |
| [13:55:48] | gnychis: | 27 is espn ;) |
| [13:56:35] | alsoconfused: | lsmod | grep lirc; lsmod|grep ivtv |
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| [13:57:13] | gnychis: | http://rafb.net/paste/results/FtEdfi94.html |
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| [13:59:51] | alsoconfused: | gnychis: do a dmesg and see if there's anything interesting near the bottom |
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| [14:00:40] | gnychis: | lets switch problems |
| [14:00:47] | gnychis: | i have one more problem, not related to the remote |
| [14:01:23] | gnychis: | if i do "ivtv-tune -c 27" then "cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg", test.mpg will contain a recording of espn |
| [14:01:37] | alsoconfused: | okay |
| [14:01:47] | gnychis: | however, when i start mythtv's livetv, and goto channel 27 its static |
| [14:01:56] | gnychis: | and this is true of all channels > 10 |
| [14:02:28] | alsoconfused: | probably set to the wrong frequency table in mythtv |
| [14:03:09] | gnychis: | i see, i'll check that out |
| [14:03:20] | gnychis: | how do you know the answer? |
| [14:06:10] | alsoconfused: | gnychis: just a hunch |
| [14:06:46] | alsoconfused: | the setup of the device must be okay since it works with ivtv-tune |
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| [14:10:13] | gnychis: | hmmm... i tried all 3 us-cable* in mythtv-setup and nothing |
| [14:10:47] | alsoconfused: | gnychis: there are two places to set it |
| [14:11:08] | alsoconfused: | the default is under General |
| [14:11:33] | gnychis: | i'm setting the one under general |
| [14:12:45] | alsoconfused: | us-cable-hrc ? |
| [14:12:50] | gnychis: | wheres the other one? |
| [14:12:58] | gnychis: | i tried us-cable-hrc, us-cable, and us-cable-irc |
| [14:13:27] | alsoconfused: | Look at the configuration in Video Sources |
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| [14:14:37] | gnychis: | sweet, thanks :) |
| [14:14:41] | gnychis: | i appreciate all your help |
| [14:15:18] | alsoconfused: | no prob |
| [14:15:48] | peter_: | hello all |
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| [14:18:12] | peter_: | Been using mythtv for a while now, trying to set it up to use a pvr-350 tvout, got that working but can only figure out how to send watching tv and recordings out through the pvr-350, in my scenario, it would be best if I could run the entire mythtv through that, any ideas how to redirect myth to run completely through the tv out of the pvr-350? |
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| [14:26:44] | alsoconfused: | peter_: i think it can operate as a framebuffer for an X display. |
| [14:26:51] | alsoconfused: | i don't have one though |
| [14:27:40] | alsoconfused: | try google pvr-350 ivtv xorg.conf |
| [14:27:42] | peter_: | thats what i was thinking, to set it up to run x through it |
| [14:28:19] | alsoconfused: | peter_: best info about it might be at the homepage for ivtv |
| [14:28:33] | peter_: | i would need the 2 displays (video card and tv card) to be independant though |
| [14:30:53] | alsoconfused: | it's tricky to setup a completely 2nd X display, but the screens can be independent |
| [14:31:28] | alsoconfused: | i.e. i can do xlogo -display :0.0 or xlogo -display :0.1 |
| [14:32:02] | alsoconfused: | windows don't overlap the two screens, but i can slide the mouse from my monitor to the tv |
| [14:33:17] | peter_: | that would be perfect |
| [14:35:46] | alsoconfused: | peter_: here's my xorg.conf http://rafb.net/paste/results/i6CaRG25.html |
| [14:35:59] | peter_: | cool, thanks! |
| [14:36:19] | alsoconfused: | instead of nvidia, you'll have a different driver for the pvr-350. |
| [14:37:04] | alsoconfused: | don't try to use that file as is on your machine!!! |
| [14:37:08] | alsoconfused: | just an example |
| [14:38:02] | peter_: | i am looking at the hex conversions for the pci bus right now, most examples i have seen are for FC, I am using Ubuntu and the numbers arent quite the same format |
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| [14:42:13] | alsoconfused: | peter_: did you try X -scanpci ? |
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| [14:43:46] | peter_: | no |
| [14:44:26] | peter_: | gave me a fatal server error |
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| [14:44:45] | peter_: | said server already active for display 0 |
| [14:45:20] | alsoconfused: | peter_: try X :1 -scanpci |
| [14:45:45] | peter_: | k |
| [14:47:03] | peter_: | shows all my devices as unknown cards |
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| [14:47:32] | alsoconfused: | even the agp video card? |
| [14:47:41] | peter_: | oh i got it |
| [14:47:53] | peter_: | is that showing the pci bus already converted? |
| [14:48:09] | peter_: | shows 0:12:0 for the pvr-350 |
| [14:48:27] | alsoconfused: | peter_: okay, write that down, then look here http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Howto:XDriver |
| [14:49:23] | peter_: | thanks! (gonna write down that little command, very handy) |
| [14:52:09] | alsoconfused: | peter_: X -scanpci gives the numbers in decimal (ready to use in xorg.conf) lspci prints hex |
| [14:53:25] | dorel__: | has anyone tried to actually use the web surf module? |
| [14:53:30] | peter_: | thats good to know for future use too |
| [14:53:33] | dorel__: | the scrolling is done really slow for me |
| [14:59:31] | alsoconfused: | did you adjust the scroll speed? |
| [14:59:52] | dorel__: | yeah |
| [15:00:01] | dorel__: | i tried 1 and then 16 but with both its just slow |
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| [15:17:25] | stuarta: | afteernoon all |
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| [15:19:16] | stuarta: | discovered maplins do a self install dvb-s kit for £80 |
| [15:24:50] | sapbeast: | man i would love to try dvb but there is like no place for an antenna where i live (as in its not allowed) |
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| [15:52:50] | speedsix: | When myth checks for duplicates in previous recordings, which table does it look at? I can't see the difference between 'recorded' and 'recordedprogram'? |
| [15:54:07] | stuarta: | oldrecorded |
| [15:54:42] | speedsix: | thanks |
| [15:54:43] | stuarta: | recorded is current programs, oldrecorded is previously recorded & deleted |
| [15:55:05] | speedsix: | what's recordedprogram then? |
| [15:55:12] | stuarta: | no idea |
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| [16:04:41] | rtsai: | speedsix: i believe recordedprogram is also for currently recorded programs, but has all the other "program details" info (cast, plot synopsis, etc.) |
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| [16:06:45] | speedsix: | I see thanks |
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| [16:24:51] | AngryElf: | hmm, I just set up a second video source, but I dont' see any difference in mythweb's listings — is there an option somewhere to display the second video source? |
| [16:30:08] | GreyFoxx: | You added a second video source, attached it to an input on a card, and then ran mythfilldatabase to pull in the channel/listing info for it ? |
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| [16:39:22] | xri1: | wow, UK is outlawing "standby" buttons/modes for electronics... wonder how that will affect computers and dvr's |
| [16:39:52] | GreyFoxx: | outlawing because of the constant power drain ? |
| [16:40:07] | GreyFoxx: | I saw some discussion along those lines a while back |
| [16:41:54] | xri1: | yeah |
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| [16:51:50] | Scopeuk_: | all that means is stuff will be left in full power rarther than standby |
| [16:51:57] | Scopeuk_: | and they wont be able to enforce it on old gear any way |
| [16:52:09] | Scopeuk_: | i mean its not liek there are thousands of tvs with standby out there any way |
| [16:53:31] | xri1: | Scopeuk_: yes. it's sort of a dumb solution to the problem of standby mode draining electricity. |
| [16:54:09] | Scopeuk_: | id quite hapily put most of my gear onto a full isolation circuit as long as i could contro lteh isolation gear from my chair |
| [16:54:10] | xri1: | lots of things could benefit from it (I mean, how hard is it to walk to the tv to turn it on — you're already standing and on your way to the couch), but there are too many things where it just doesn't make sense. |
| [16:54:24] | xri1: | like computers... |
| [16:54:25] | Scopeuk_: | or full power of from remote |
| [16:54:49] | Scopeuk_: | the tv thing ill admit to occasionaly leavign mine on when ive been watching in bed |
| [16:54:55] | xri1: | imagine forcing computer makers to write a special "UK mode" for the bios that turns off WoL and soft power down. |
| [16:55:27] | Scopeuk_: | yeh |
| [16:55:33] | Scopeuk_: | wol is a god send for soem of my gear |
| [16:55:40] | Scopeuk_: | bury it out the way and wol it when its needed |
| [16:55:51] | Scopeuk_: | it jsut wont work |
| [16:55:55] | xri1: | yup |
| [16:56:07] | ** xri1 pokes AngryElf to see if he ever figured things out ** | |
| [16:57:06] | xri1: | odd, I just noticed that I'm not myself today. |
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| [16:57:21] | xri1: | test |
| [16:57:35] | xri1: | oh, someone stole my nick |
| [16:57:41] | Scopeuk_ is now known as scopeuk | |
| [16:57:49] | scopeuk: | mines becouse i ghosted earlier |
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| [16:58:17] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v xris | |
| [16:58:26] | xris: | someone else was using it |
| [16:58:32] | xris: | weird ip |
| [16:58:34] | scopeuk: | nasty |
| [16:59:03] | scopeuk: | no one ever tries to take my nick |
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| [16:59:11] | scopeuk: | im jsut too damn bitchy no one wants that rep |
| [16:59:12] | xris: | hasn't happened to me in a long time |
| [16:59:23] | xris: | but that's what nickserv is for. :) |
| [16:59:27] | xris: | boots off the lamer |
| [17:00:43] | scopeuk: | yeh |
| [17:00:47] | scopeuk: | niceserv is nice |
| [17:01:00] | scopeuk: | like being able to use /msg though |
| [17:01:06] | scopeuk: | soem server require registration for it |
| [17:01:10] | scopeuk: | quakenet comes to mind |
| [17:01:40] | xris: | so does freenode |
| [17:01:46] | scopeuk: | yes |
| [17:01:47] | xris: | or so I hear |
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| [17:01:59] | xris: | which makes it odd that I could /msg the guy using my old nick |
| [17:02:00] | scopeuk: | infact yes i may well ahve been thinking of freenode but have said quakenet |
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| [17:02:11] | scopeuk: | yeh |
| [17:02:23] | scopeuk: | think i have my nick and my alternate registered and linked |
| [17:02:30] | scopeuk: | keep any channel privilages i ever get |
| [17:04:07] | xris: | didn't know you could link things like that |
| [17:04:51] | scopeuk: | [18:04] --NickServ-- LINK Link your nickname to another |
| [17:05:07] | scopeuk: | /msg NickServ LINK CoolGuy CoolGuysPassword |
| [17:05:11] | xris: | wish gaim would let me specify my alt nick instead of just going to s/.$/1/ |
| [17:05:23] | scopeuk: | yeh i can have whatever i want |
| [17:05:30] | scopeuk: | and i have an alternate alterate too |
| [17:05:32] | xris: | yeah, real irc clients do that |
| [17:05:32] | Juski: | time for home |
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| [17:05:35] | scopeuk: | and an away nick ifi set it |
| [17:05:43] | scopeuk: | i cant stand gaim irc |
| [17:05:51] | scopeuk: | makes me wanna bang my head on the desk |
| [17:06:07] | scopeuk: | so i got a realclient instead then realised i onyl use one im network so i dident need gaim any way |
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| [17:07:56] | xris: | I use all of them. |
| [17:08:04] | xris: | and multiple jabber (jabber, livejournal jabber, gtalk) |
| [17:08:11] | scopeuk: | i only use msn as thats prety much what my friends use |
| [17:08:20] | scopeuk: | jabber is nice |
| [17:08:29] | scopeuk: | unfurtunately none of my friends will switch off msn |
| [17:08:40] | scopeuk: | they carry too much bagage and learnign a new client is "beyond" them |
| [17:09:16] | xris: | so this is completely off topic, but I'm part of buzzagent.com to get cool free stuff.. am supposed to talk about http://www.squidoo.com/ and http://sethgodin.com/ and his new book (http://sethgodin.com/small/). so I get points for talking about it. Will also be getting pdf chapters from the book if anyone wants them (it sounds like it should be interesting to read — only chapters posted so far are the intro) |
| [17:10:06] | Beirdo: | you can use bitlbee for the IM stuff, and use an IRC client |
| [17:10:42] | xris: | I like having it all in one window |
| [17:10:55] | Beirdo: | yeah, I use bitlbee, and xchat |
| [17:10:57] | xris: | though I guess an im plugin for irc would do that |
| [17:11:21] | xris: | Beirdo: it's too bad you don't live in canada anymore.. could get you to do buzzagent stuff there. heh |
| [17:11:22] | Beirdo: | bitlbee acts as an IRC server and connects to the IM networks |
| [17:11:23] | scopeuk: | beirdo i tried bittlebeee but i occasionally use file transferes |
| [17:11:46] | Beirdo: | but it won't do jabber on gmail yet (no SSL or something) |
| [17:11:46] | scopeuk: | bittlebee isd fun i had a server installed on my myth box once |
| [17:11:49] | xris: | file transfers, status notifications, etc. |
| [17:11:57] | scopeuk: | Beirdo im sure ive see na patch |
| [17:11:59] | Beirdo: | scopeuk ahh, I don't do file transfers |
| [17:12:18] | scopeuk: | colaberative photography exploits betwen me and my partner in crime |
| [17:12:22] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:12:40] | Beirdo: | yeah well, keeps my mom/sister/etc from spamming me with stupid files ;) |
| [17:12:51] | scopeuk: | we move large volumes on cd's or extrnal drives but single files get imed or ftped |
| [17:13:02] | xris: | Beirdo: my firewall prevents that. gaim doesn't work so well if there's a firewall on each end of the connection |
| [17:13:03] | scopeuk: | Beirdo i jsut upset my sibling so they dont talk to me |
| [17:13:42] | Beirdo: | yeah, IMing files through multiple NATs is difficult at best |
| [17:13:48] | scopeuk: | wodner if i could screen an irc client to bittle bee then setup remote x again |
| [17:14:02] | Beirdo: | actually, I use irssi, and run a proxy |
| [17:14:08] | scopeuk: | Beirdo scarily msn messagign client manages to pull it off |
| [17:14:18] | Beirdo: | and then connect to the proxy which is always connected to MSN, etc |
| [17:14:38] | Beirdo: | yeah, it has both ends transfer through M$ servers |
| [17:14:54] | scopeuk: | its negotiated like that but its a dcc transfer |
| [17:15:02] | scopeuk: | lan speeds show that up |
| [17:15:16] | scopeuk: | eg over a lan swoping file at lan speeds |
| [17:15:24] | scopeuk: | also tracking ip addys through conenction |
| [17:16:18] | Beirdo: | M$ does SOME things right |
| [17:16:23] | Beirdo: | very few though |
| [17:18:28] | scopeuk: | yeh |
| [17:18:38] | scopeuk: | messenger is very easily logged over a network much like irc |
| [17:19:40] | scopeuk: | hub + wireshark |
| [17:20:13] | Beirdo: | meh |
| [17:20:22] | Beirdo: | firewall + tcpdump |
| [17:20:23] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [17:20:52] | scopeuk: | i liek seeing what my network is doing |
| [17:20:59] | scopeuk: | unfurtuantely the switch makes it mroe awkward |
| [17:21:05] | scopeuk: | i prefer the performance |
| [17:21:19] | Beirdo: | snoopy guy |
| [17:21:22] | scopeuk: | yup |
| [17:21:39] | scopeuk: | i have a nice slimline firewall im gonan try and isntall pfsense on |
| [17:21:46] | scopeuk: | but got a feelign ti wil lbe awkward |
| [17:23:23] | Beirdo: | hmm, I think I should switch laptops |
| [17:23:25] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:23:28] | Beirdo: | BRB |
| [17:24:00] | scopeuk: | k |
| [17:24:17] | scopeuk: | much as issiri is nice i personaly dotn get along with it |
| [17:24:23] | scopeuk: | for the same reason i dont get alogn wit hvi |
| [17:24:31] | scopeuk: | too many shortcuts not enough simplicity |
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| [17:29:56] | scopeuk: | on another note any one knwo where i can get a wpa compatable wifi bridge fora good price |
| [17:30:10] | scopeuk: | prefereably g spec but i can cope wit hb |
| [17:30:22] | xris: | scopeuk: airport express. :) |
| [17:32:10] | Beirdo: | back |
| [17:32:13] | Beirdo: | muhahha |
| [17:32:38] | Beirdo: | scopeuk, I use irssi only as a proxy, connect to it wih xchat usually |
| [17:33:17] | scopeuk: | Beirdo i looked at that then gave up |
| [17:33:24] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:33:57] | scopeuk: | i dotn ahve any perminently on boxes atm |
| [17:34:20] | scopeuk: | might see if i can concoct on whould need to be low powered and tolerent of extram temperatures though |
| [17:35:01] | ** MythLogBot slaps test test with a trout on behalf of xris... ** | |
| [17:35:09] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:35:10] | scopeuk: | lol |
| [17:35:19] | scopeuk: | !trout xris |
| [17:35:19] | ** MythLogBot slaps xris with a trout on behalf of scopeuk... ** | |
| [17:35:36] | xris: | pondering splitting that off so you can add an adjective for the trout |
| [17:35:52] | Beirdo: | yeah, put in a ticket :) |
| [17:35:53] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [17:36:14] | Beirdo: | I'll forget otherwise |
| [17:36:58] | xris: | I was going to poke at it... but should probably do actual work. heh |
| [17:37:08] | scopeuk: | heh actaulyl work whats that |
| [17:37:17] | scopeuk: | no honestly i dont know |
| [17:37:21] | scopeuk: | ;-) |
| [17:37:23] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:37:25] | scopeuk: | i should rearly get ajob |
| [17:37:36] | scopeuk: | they even got mygrandpearents badgerign me about it now |
| [17:37:38] | Beirdo: | well, put in a ticket anyways, I'll get to it, or you can later :) |
| [17:37:39] | scopeuk: | :-( |
| [17:38:45] | xris: | ok, ticket added |
| [17:39:20] | Beirdo: | danke |
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| [17:45:52] | xris: | lol |
| [17:46:25] | AngryElf: | xris, i was afk...no i didnt' figure it out... |
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| [17:48:02] | AngryElf: | i've got multiple video sources now — i cant' seem to get at the second set of listings |
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| [17:55:23] | xris: | AngryElf: read GreyFoxx's repluy |
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| [17:59:54] | DrMitch: | i have myth set to record any one of a show that is on at 4pm and repeats 6pm and 10pm, i would prefer it to record earlier than later if it is possible. but it seems to be stuck recording at 10, regardless. any clue how to set it to record earlier if it can? |
| [18:02:08] | xris: | higher priority |
| [18:02:26] | DrMitch: | ah, okay |
| [18:02:28] | DrMitch: | thnx |
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| [18:33:14] | RandomDude15: | hey |
| [18:33:18] | Hoxzer: | Hi dood |
| [18:33:26] | RandomDude15: | I need help. I just got a new PVR 150 and need to install it in linux. |
| [18:33:43] | RandomDude15: | its in my PC now |
| [18:34:38] | sapbeast: | well the first thing is obvious, get ivtv working first |
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| [18:40:45] | RandomDude15: | http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Howto:Ubuntu |
| [18:40:46] | RandomDude15: | using that |
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| [18:42:25] | AngryElf: | xris, GreyFoxx, okay, i forgot to run mythfilldatabase — i've done that now and now I only see the new listing, not the old one |
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| [18:42:42] | RandomDude15: | gaim closed ugh |
| [18:43:14] | AngryElf: | the old one is cable-ready ~110 channels, the new one is digital cable ~1000 channels — the channels are all different for the first ~110 so obviously this won't work together |
| [18:44:48] | scopeuk: | so you gain 890*24 hrous of crap per day? |
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| [18:45:17] | scopeuk: | sorry couldent help myself |
| [18:46:09] | AngryElf: | basically |
| [18:46:18] | AngryElf: | the sad thing is i only want one channel above 100 :( |
| [18:49:31] | AngryElf: | actually, it's a kind of blend of the two — for example on the first (Cable ready) ABC = chan 37, but on the digital cable it is chan 7.....I don't have two entries both channel 7 and 37, but I have two lineups for ABC, one on 7 and 37 |
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| [19:50:11] | Beirdo: | ah, the joys of relearning automake/autoconf |
| [19:50:58] | ** Dagmar screams silently. ** | |
| [19:51:38] | Beirdo: | then I'll add libtool just to keep myself insane |
| [19:52:08] | Dagmar: | I am stilll trying to figure out how they managed to actually create that issue with datarootdir in 2.59 |
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| [19:53:36] | Beirdo: | I wish they'd let ya put ${VERSION} in AC_INIT |
| [19:53:43] | Beirdo: | but no, gotta put text |
| [19:53:59] | Beirdo: | so to put in the version number, I have to run sed to create configure.ac |
| [19:54:02] | Beirdo: | blech |
| [19:54:27] | Dagmar: | Whee! |
| [19:54:53] | Beirdo: | unless I find a way to bend it to my purposes |
| [19:54:59] | Beirdo: | the jury's still out on that |
| [19:56:28] | Juski: | who doesn't relish using sed & awk eh? |
| [19:56:58] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:57:04] | Beirdo: | well sed doesn't bother me |
| [19:57:08] | Dagmar: | sed & awk are afine |
| [19:57:11] | Dagmar: | They're rational. |
| [19:57:14] | Beirdo: | it's the non-automation that pisses me off |
| [19:57:19] | Juski: | nice to see the old guard still rule the roost, eh? |
| [19:57:21] | Beirdo: | I like using autoconf |
| [19:57:31] | Dagmar: | You know, they might have pills for that now. |
| [19:57:33] | scopeuk: | guys im trying to get dvd playback working havign problems with comercial disc not i think its libdcss im missing or the like can anyone point me in the right direction? |
| [19:57:35] | Beirdo: | as portability to non-Linux is nice |
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| [19:57:50] | Juski: | scopeuk: www.google.co.uk |
| [19:57:53] | Juski: | :-P |
| [19:58:00] | JustWilliam: | scott lol |
| [19:58:05] | scopeuk: | was checkign i got the right file name and dont you think i whent there first |
| [19:58:11] | Beirdo: | and check up the MPAA's arse too |
| [19:58:14] | Juski: | we can't got helping you break the law now can we hmmm? |
| [19:58:19] | scopeuk: | ok will its easier to jsut say me i say my friend and every oen gets there backs up |
| [19:58:25] | Juski: | libdvdcss ;-) |
| [19:58:32] | scopeuk: | tnks |
| [19:59:05] | Juski: | it's not installed by default on umbongo, but they plainly tell you how to.. I dunno how that gets them off with it |
| [19:59:32] | scopeuk: | same as its not illegal to tel peopel whow to pick ocks |
| [19:59:55] | scopeuk: | wow that was crap |
| [19:59:56] | Beirdo: | or how to fly a plane into a building. oh wait. I bet that IS illegal now |
| [19:59:57] | Dagmar: | How to pick whats? |
| [19:59:59] | Juski: | not illegal but morally irresponsible |
| [20:00:07] | scopeuk: | locks* |
| [20:00:08] | Dagmar: | I thought you were either born with one or you weren't |
| [20:00:14] | Dagmar: | Oh, LOCKS. |
| [20:00:18] | scopeuk: | Dagmar lol |
| [20:00:25] | scopeuk: | twisted are we? |
| [20:00:46] | Dagmar: | I'm practically guzzling Takara Shochu so I can get back to sleep |
| [20:01:09] | Dagmar: | This is the most hostile sake ever |
| [20:01:12] | Juski: | I need sleeeep. way too many late nights.. like2am.. 3am... |
| [20:01:16] | scopeuk: | oh yay i changed my stb to match the new tv downstairs at 16:9 now the output via rf doent match every otehr tv in the house |
| [20:01:25] | scopeuk: | Juski your nto the only one |
| [20:01:28] | scopeuk: | i jsut sleep in |
| [20:01:33] | JustWilliam: | im just wanting to playdvds that i bought |
| [20:01:42] | scopeuk: | wonders of being a bottom feeder |
| [20:01:47] | Juski: | heh. I can't do that. if I turn up to work any later than 10am I'm in trouble |
| [20:01:52] | Beirdo: | JustWilliam, well, there's always the $45 DVD player |
| [20:01:53] | scopeuk: | harsh |
| [20:02:15] | Juski: | well, repeatedly, without a good excuse, I mean... |
| [20:02:27] | scopeuk: | how does i ran over the gold fish work? |
| [20:02:34] | Juski: | lol |
| [20:02:57] | Beirdo: | or "I'm allergic to mornings"? |
| [20:03:03] | Dagmar: | You could use the one I usualyl use |
| [20:03:04] | scopeuk: | yeh thats a good one |
| [20:03:11] | scopeuk: | ? |
| [20:03:12] | Dagmar: | "I'm retarded when I first wake up" |
| [20:03:20] | JustWilliam: | why got a cheap dvd polkayer wen mythtv can do it |
| [20:03:25] | Beirdo: | "oh, so you wake up at noon?" |
| [20:03:31] | Beirdo: | muhhahah |
| [20:03:40] | Dagmar: | Wow that is some seriousl oversleepin' there |
| [20:03:43] | Juski: | I have to discuss my new contract tomorrow.. I'm objecting to the new clause which says they're entlitled to send me home without pay when they're slack :-/ |
| [20:03:48] | scopeuk: | i think i could get away with do yu rearly wanna meet me when im cranky? |
| [20:04:09] | scopeuk: | Juski cant fault you |
| [20:04:18] | Dagmar: | Juski: Tell them you'll do it so long as you can make them pay you when you don't come in if you need the money |
| [20:04:22] | Beirdo: | Juski, add a clause that says you are allowed to take their equipment home permanently whenever you want |
| [20:04:24] | scopeuk: | get rid ofthe without pa part and youed be sorted |
| [20:04:37] | Beirdo: | remove the "out" |
| [20:04:50] | Juski: | heh |
| [20:05:08] | Juski: | take gear, in leiu of pay... good plan |
| [20:05:19] | Juski: | since one of our DVRs costs more than one months' wages |
| [20:05:24] | scopeuk: | ok one after noon un payed |
| [20:05:30] | scopeuk: | where they put them blade server units |
| [20:05:34] | Beirdo: | "OK, I'll go home, but that will cost ya an RF signal analyser" |
| [20:05:54] | scopeuk: | ;-) |
| [20:05:55] | Juski: | ironic, cos I source the test gear :-P |
| [20:06:05] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:06:34] | Beirdo: | I think being sent home without pay merits taking home a $200kUS piece of test gear, don't you? ;) |
| [20:06:35] | scopeuk: | Juski and it doent go throguh justin times holdigns corperation? |
| [20:07:06] | Juski: | seriously though – adding that kind of clause doesn't exactly fill me with confidence |
| [20:07:08] | scopeuk: | ;-) |
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| [20:07:32] | scopeuk: | Juski id think it was a bad sign |
| [20:07:33] | Juski: | think I'll say .. ok.. but even though I'm signing it, don't expect me to stay |
| [20:07:38] | Beirdo: | yeah, that clause would be enough to make me start sprucing up the resume and using company time to search for new employment |
| [20:07:44] | scopeuk: | but hwo often are they "slack"? |
| [20:08:03] | Beirdo: | not as often as us, I hope |
| [20:08:03] | Beirdo: | :) |
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| [20:08:23] | metalac: | anyone have any experience with firewire? |
| [20:08:31] | Juski: | I'm normally trying to be in 3 places at once all the time.. I don't have 'slack' generally |
| [20:08:49] | Juski: | my argument & I'm sticking to it ;-) |
| [20:09:00] | metalac: | I'm able to use test-mpeg2 and it works fine, but i can't use LiveTV within MythTV |
| [20:09:03] | metalac: | any clue what's up? |
| [20:11:05] | metalac: | i changed the permissions so that mythtv owns /dev/raw1394 but to no avail |
| [20:11:52] | scopeuk: | checked the logs? |
| [20:12:31] | metalac: | well it says that it can't read the /home/user/recordings/blahblahblah.mpg file |
| [20:12:38] | metalac: | but that's because it's 0 size |
| [20:12:49] | metalac: | which means firewire is not dumping the necessary stuff there |
| [20:12:57] | metalac: | but if i use test-mpeg2 it works fine |
| [20:15:16] | scopeuk: | sounds almsot liek permisions to me |
| [20:15:24] | scopeuk: | but im far from even a novice in the area |
| [20:16:26] | Juski: | grab some log & pastebin it |
| [20:16:31] | Juski: | from mythbackend |
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| [20:16:37] | metalac: | let me turn on the box |
| [20:16:45] | metalac: | you think it should be in mythbackend log? |
| [20:16:54] | Juski: | could be |
| [20:17:09] | Juski: | or run mythbackend in a terminal (after stopping it) |
| [20:17:48] | metalac: | well i get these errors when i run mythfrontend from the terminal |
| [20:20:37] | Juski: | did I say mythfrontend? |
| [20:21:14] | metalac: | sorry DAD ;) |
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| [20:21:45] | metalac: | man |
| [20:21:55] | metalac: | now i did something it and it seems that the whole firewire thing is screwed up |
| [20:22:05] | metalac: | i have to plug in and out to get it to work |
| [20:22:50] | sigger: | Juski: not that you are looking for advice, but you might want to consider a provision that says if they send you home more than x%, you can terminate contract. Alternatively, give them a minimum % of non-slack/ |
| [20:23:14] | metalac: | it looks like i got an unreliable firewire card like the howto said |
| [20:23:19] | Juski: | sigger: I'll consider my options when I've heard what HR have to say |
| [20:23:30] | Juski: | (but thanks for the idea) |
| [20:23:50] | sigger: | Juski: good. always best to gather data from other side and give little date. |
| [20:23:52] | sigger: | er, data |
| [20:24:07] | sigger: | enough meddling by me |
| [20:24:43] | Juski: | if jobs in the line of work I do were plentiful round here, I'd already be gone |
| [20:25:17] | Juski: | oh ffs. change a machine's hostname & what happens? everything breaks.. stupid damn user |
| [20:26:52] | Juski: | editing configs at 2.30 in the morning != good idea |
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| [20:30:30] | Juski: | weird.. No setting found for this machine's BackendServerIP. |
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| [20:33:37] | Juski: | better. phew! |
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| [20:38:31] | metalac: | this is weird |
| [20:38:42] | metalac: | somebody is editing the firewire document as I'm reading it :) |
| [20:38:48] | gnychis: | how can i watch livetv in a windowed mode instead of full screen? |
| [20:41:40] | jams: | gnychis- check "use gui size for tv playback" |
| [20:41:57] | gnychis: | where? |
| [20:42:10] | Juski: | look! |
| [20:42:23] | Juski: | damn. I won't be changing a backend's hostname again in a hurry |
| [20:42:28] | gnychis: | look where? |
| [20:42:52] | jams: | utilites/setup -> setup -> appearance -> 2nd screen |
| [20:43:07] | Juski: | and 'run mythfrontend in a window' |
| [20:43:23] | Juski: | and the size of the window is determined by the GUI size attributes |
| [20:43:32] | Juski: | so no clicking & dragging to resize |
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| [20:43:49] | liran1: | im having a problem with my plugin |
| [20:44:10] | liran1: | no idea why that sql call seg faults |
| [20:44:38] | Hoxzer: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/213014 <-- :/ |
| [20:45:22] | jams: | run mythfrontend in window should be optional. All depends if you want borders or not. |
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| [20:46:45] | Juski: | changing my hostname back... not gonna go thru the rigmarole of re-scanning. sheesh |
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| [20:50:54] | Mattwj2005: | well I got good news and bad news |
| [20:51:16] | Mattwj2005: | good news is that I have a new 300 GB HD on the way |
| [20:51:42] | Mattwj2005: | bad news is that my motherboard on my myth box died |
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| [20:57:59] | Mattwj2005: | I guess it is time for a real myth box :) |
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| [21:04:01] | sapbeast: | define real :p |
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| [21:04:51] | Mattwj2005: | I am thinking like AMD 64 X2 4000 |
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| [21:05:34] | Mattwj2005: | something fast enough to play back HDTV |
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| [21:06:53] | Juski: | that should cope with hd mpeg2 even in software alone. something'd be wrong if it didn't I reckon |
| [21:07:19] | Mattwj2005: | yeah |
| [21:07:30] | Mattwj2005: | here is an interesting question.... |
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| [21:07:48] | Mattwj2005: | how fast of a processor would you need to play back MPEG 4 HDTV? |
| [21:08:12] | metalac: | it seems to be more of a question of pairing up a decent cpu with a decent video card |
| [21:08:19] | Juski: | about what you're getting.. if you drop the quality of decoding |
| [21:08:25] | metalac: | most cards today tend to offload a decent amount of cpu |
| [21:08:39] | metalac: | at least with mpeg2 |
| [21:08:41] | Juski: | yeh but not mpeg4 |
| [21:08:45] | Mattwj2005: | well I have a GeForce FX 5200 |
| [21:08:59] | metalac: | that should do for mpeg2 no problem |
| [21:09:00] | Juski: | no use for mpeg4, but some use for mpeg2 hd |
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| [21:09:24] | Mattwj2005: | oh well....like I said....I have a 300 GB HD coming |
| [21:10:01] | metalac: | for some reason i can't change firewire to bcast_connection=1 |
| [21:10:08] | metalac: | i can change it to p2p no problem |
| [21:10:15] | metalac: | but bcast is always 0 |
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| [21:13:27] | metalac: | anyone have any idea why i can't change to bcast? |
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| [21:35:00] | Mattwj2005: | I don't know maybe the AMD 64 X2 is out of my price range |
| [21:38:54] | Mattwj2005: | I can get a AMD Athon 64 for a lot less money |
| [21:39:29] | Mattwj2005: | I don't know if I need all that extra power |
| [21:40:51] | metalac: | what sort of stuff will you be doing? |
| [21:42:58] | Mattwj2005: | playback HDTV.....it would be awesome if I could record HDTV, play a HDTV file and record an analog show at the same time |
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| [21:54:26] | metalac: | recording HDTV is no problem |
| [21:54:33] | metalac: | it's a digital mpeg2 stream |
| [21:54:43] | metalac: | as long as you have a dicent hard drive you should be just fine |
| [21:54:52] | metalac: | playing is a wole another story |
| [21:55:10] | metalac: | I have Fx6200 and A64 2800+ |
| [21:55:27] | metalac: | and I can watch HDTV with about 40% cpu usage |
| [21:55:40] | sharkhat: | what is the perfered linux distro to for running myth? |
| [21:55:43] | metalac: | i'm sure I can tweak it but I have trouble with my firewire so didn't get a chance to play with HD a whole lot |
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| [21:55:49] | sharkhat: | or rather, are there any to stay away from? |
| [21:55:58] | metalac: | sharkhat: i'd say knopmyth, but anything will work |
| [21:56:29] | sharkhat: | so debian? |
| [21:56:35] | metalac: | i don't see why not |
| [21:56:49] | metalac: | whatever you're comfortable with pretty much |
| [21:56:56] | sharkhat: | lol, just wondering if there is a reason not to use my hacked to hell redhat 7.3 |
| [21:57:10] | metalac: | depends how hacked :) |
| [21:57:13] | sharkhat: | then, how about ati tv wonder cards? |
| [21:57:20] | metalac: | remember myth works with qt3 only |
| [21:57:21] | sharkhat: | metalac: UBER hacked... |
| [21:57:23] | metalac: | and that sort of stuff |
| [21:57:29] | sharkhat: | qt3? |
| [21:57:52] | metalac: | QT |
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| [21:57:57] | metalac: | the GUI API |
| [21:57:58] | sharkhat: | quicktime? |
| [21:57:59] | sharkhat: | sorry |
| [21:58:00] | metalac: | that KDE uses |
| [21:58:05] | sharkhat: | oOoo |
| [21:58:16] | sharkhat: | i have spent too long in the os x camp.. |
| [21:58:50] | metalac: | hehehe |
| [21:59:19] | metalac: | if you're gona use the box for mythtv only then get a simple lightweight distro |
| [21:59:28] | metalac: | and load only mythtv and necesary utils on it |
| [21:59:31] | metalac: | and you're good to go |
| [22:00:54] | sharkhat: | thx, i have a nice athlon 3000+ sitting around, and i would ike to use it... thanks metalac |
| [22:01:49] | metalac: | that should do it :) |
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| [22:34:29] | AngryElf: | k, new problem :(.......mplayer plays back my recorded files just fine, but mythtv says that it's incapable of playing back the video at full resolution (1280x1024) without skipping frames to keep the audio/video in sync....any ideas on this one? |
| [22:35:55] | GreyFoxx: | Myth for some reason not using XV for scaling ? |
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| [22:59:25] | xris: | since when does mythtv complain about that kind of thing? |
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| [23:35:29] | ** Zider so pissed :P ** | |
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| [23:42:57] | GeeKman: | hello every one |
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| [23:51:35] | GeeKman: | I just got my pvr-250 card today and am trying to set it up, right now when i try to watch tv i get a blank screen for about 5–10 seconds then it takes me back to the main menu for myth. im not really sure whats going on, any ideas? |
| [23:56:26] | alsoconfused: | GeeKman: do you have the ivtv utilities? |
| [23:57:03] | RandomDude15: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.asp?I . . . d+%2D+Retail – do I plug the thing on the very right into the computer or cable box? |
| [23:58:04] | GeeKman: | i believe so |
| [23:58:20] | GeeKman: | ivtv-tune and what not work |
| [23:58:39] | GeeKman: | but i dont know how to use them |
| [23:59:01] | alsoconfused: | GeeKman: 1st thing i'd do is to run ivtv-detect |
| [23:59:59] | GeeKman: | done |
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