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| [00:00:03] | Juski: | here's hoping the SoC mythmusic project comes out smelling nicer ;-) |
| [00:02:19] | scopeuk: | be nice |
| [00:02:26] | scopeuk: | jen* |
| [00:02:33] | scopeuk: | damn it wrong bloody window |
| [00:02:38] | scopeuk: | dual monitors have there drawbacks |
| [00:03:39] | russellb: | no they don't :) |
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| [00:06:22] | scopeuk: | they do when i have two diferent comunication programns and one fullscreen on each |
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| [00:06:41] | scopeuk: | acidentaly type messages inthe wrong one |
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| [00:11:42] | russellb: | i'm so used to having them, though. Now all I can think is how nice it would be to have a 3rd |
| [00:11:50] | scopeuk: | yeh i do too |
| [00:12:03] | scopeuk: | but i stil loccasioanly for get whcih fullscreen app im typing in |
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| [00:12:08] | scopeuk: | wb |
| [00:12:50] | scopeuk: | russellb id quite like to have 3 19 inch tft's |
| [00:12:56] | scopeuk: | think that whould be sweet |
| [00:13:48] | russellb: | 20" at 1600x1200 is the way to go :) |
| [00:14:04] | scopeuk: | yeh that whould be sweet |
| [00:14:17] | scopeuk: | althoguh ill admit i have a 17 crt at 1600x1200 atm and thats prety nice |
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| [00:14:29] | scopeuk: | plenty of real estate |
| [00:14:37] | russellb: | or hey, i'd setting for 2 of those apple 30" cinema displays. |
| [00:14:42] | russellb: | s/setting/settle/ |
| [00:14:53] | scopeuk: | id settle for 1 and my trusty 15 inch secondary |
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| [00:16:57] | Juski: | have you seen the price of 20" TFT panels? sheesh! And if you want a DVI connection.. that'll be ££ extra in Europe, thanks |
| [00:17:27] | scopeuk: | Juski i know they want both your legs and your testicles for one but there prety sweet |
| [00:18:13] | Juski: | I'm more huffed that dvi costs so much extra |
| [00:18:46] | Juski: | I bought my 19" tft a while before the new directive came in (must charge more for DVI cos TVs have DVI !) |
| [00:19:30] | scopeuk: | yeh bout bloody right |
| [00:20:20] | Juski: | and why are there no 19" 1600x1200 screens anyway? 1280x1024 is as good as it gets :-/ |
| [00:20:50] | scopeuk: | my 17 crt does 1600x1200 |
| [00:20:52] | russellb: | the 20" displays from dell are pretty nice ... but roughly $500 |
| [00:20:54] | russellb: | USD |
| [00:21:00] | scopeuk: | |
| [00:21:02] | Juski: | I'd love another 19" panel, but finding one with similar specs to the one I've got AND with DVI... blech |
| [00:21:13] | Juski: | heh. |
| [00:21:21] | Juski: | don't get me started... |
| [00:21:24] | scopeuk: | whouldent mind http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/113148 |
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| [00:22:22] | Juski: | well seen as I'm still awake I might aswell try to put a proper TZ & keymap file on my slackware stick |
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| [00:23:07] | scopeuk: | seens as im still awak i should probably go to bed |
| [00:23:07] | Juski: | should just be a simple mount cd, copy... |
| [00:23:26] | scopeuk: | yeh we all know how that one goes |
| [00:23:38] | scopeuk: | wit hthe running and the fires and the cd launching overloards |
| [00:23:43] | Juski: | bah sleep is for humans |
| [00:24:06] | scopeuk: | yeh at what point in geekdom does one cease to be humans |
| [00:24:24] | Juski: | when you start thinking in assembler? |
| [00:24:34] | scopeuk: | only wish i knew assembly |
| [00:24:38] | scopeuk: | will ahve to look into it |
| [00:24:43] | Juski: | LD A #65 |
| [00:24:44] | scopeuk: | guess 32 being rounder than 30 |
| [00:24:55] | scopeuk: | load from memory adress 65 |
| [00:25:03] | scopeuk: | proably hex but icba to translate |
| [00:25:37] | Juski: | damn these passwords. I have too many |
| [00:25:54] | scopeuk: | lol |
| [00:26:05] | scopeuk: | i resorted to the tried and tested technique 3 passwords |
| [00:26:18] | scopeuk: | one for systems one for secure other adn one for insecure other |
| [00:26:39] | scopeuk: | all 10 digit alphanumerical of course |
| [00:26:46] | Juski: | yikes |
| [00:26:50] | Juski: | I have no time for that |
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| [00:27:14] | scopeuk: | you get to memorise stuff once you typed it a few thohsand times |
| [00:28:17] | Juski: | heh |
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| [00:28:32] | Juski: | now where in the world does a slack cd keep all its goodies? |
| [00:28:44] | scopeuk: | away from its badies? |
| [00:30:40] | Juski: | oh dear |
| [00:31:07] | scopeuk: | ? |
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| [00:32:49] | ru: | hey guys |
| [00:32:55] | ru: | I am using Xinerama with my myth |
| [00:33:04] | ru: | I just switched it from multihead |
| [00:33:15] | ru: | but as soon as I try to watch tv or play a video my whole X just crashes |
| [00:33:22] | ru: | cant really find anything relevant in the logs |
| [00:33:27] | ru: | any idea's? |
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| [00:34:45] | ru: | would changing to TwinView possibly fix it? |
| [00:36:19] | Kelerion: | anyone happen to know which field in the channel table "startchan" refers to in the cardinput table? |
| [00:36:22] | scopeuk: | is there a xinerama settign that has to be changed to match your nvidia driver setting |
| [00:36:27] | scopeuk: | jsut a wild stab i nthe dark |
| [00:36:48] | ru: | scopeuk: how you mean? |
| [00:37:05] | ru: | scopeuk: I have gone into myth and made it launch on the correct screen any everything – you mean that? Or something else? |
| [00:37:13] | scopeuk: | eg when you change the driver setting is there another setting in the xinerama stuff that must also be set to match |
| [00:37:19] | ru: | hmm |
| [00:37:25] | scopeuk: | its jsut a guess |
| [00:37:26] | ru: | where would i check that? under my xorg.conf ? |
| [00:41:16] | ru: | what do you think is actually causing the crash though, hmm.. |
| [00:42:28] | scopeuk: | i have no idea liek i sya a conflict of settigns between two pieces ofsoftware |
| [00:42:35] | scopeuk: | it was a stab in the dark |
| [00:43:40] | ru: | hmmm maybe ill just try with twinview |
| [00:45:28] | scopeuk: | k |
| [00:45:33] | scopeuk: | im not gonan try and stop you |
| [00:46:25] | Juski: | grrr. I can't find any of the system files on this cd |
| [00:46:32] | Juski: | packages yeah.. |
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| [00:56:54] | Dagmar: | This is not windows. Packages do not pollute each others namespace with configuration data. |
| [00:58:57] | Juski: | you mean linux doesn't have one massive file containing all the configs for every program under the sun?! |
| [00:58:59] | Juski: | ;-) |
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| [00:59:31] | Dagmar: | Four jillion files in /etc/gconf can't be wrong |
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| [01:00:05] | Juski: | lol |
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| [01:01:03] | Juski: | this is silly. aha! I don't necessarily have to use a slackware tz file do I? I mean they'll all be the same format (apart from BSD I guess) |
| [01:01:37] | Dagmar: | eh wot? |
| [01:01:39] | Dagmar: | What's your problem? |
| [01:01:55] | Dagmar: | What file ya lookin' for? |
| [01:02:01] | Juski: | Dagmar: this zenslack distro is all german. german tz & keyboard layouts |
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| [01:02:30] | Juski: | it's been cleaned out, so I need to find the right files to put there |
| [01:02:30] | Dagmar: | Ouch. Yeah, that might be annoying. Doesn't LC_ALL="C" make it behave? |
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| [01:02:40] | Juski: | LC_ALL ? |
| [01:03:05] | Dagmar: | I was assuming by that you wanted to have it NOT all be in Deutche anymore. |
| [01:03:09] | Juski: | I at least need a UK tz file.. I might be able to use my ubuntu one I'm guessing |
| [01:03:38] | Dagmar: | You want a timespec file? |
| [01:03:41] | Dagmar: | lol |
| [01:04:00] | Juski: | yeh so I can play recordings back properly |
| [01:04:12] | Juski: | ntp is running but it's all offset by localtime IIRC |
| [01:04:20] | Dagmar: | Dude. Run tzselect. |
| [01:04:41] | Dagmar: | When it's done, symlink what it tells you from /etc/localtime pointing at /usr/share/zoneinfo |
| [01:04:44] | Juski: | there's no tzselect |
| [01:04:53] | Dagmar: | What timezone are you in anyway? |
| [01:04:54] | Juski: | like I said.. it's been cleaned out |
| [01:04:56] | Juski: | UK |
| [01:05:03] | Dagmar: | So, GMT? |
| [01:05:11] | Juski: | BST right now |
| [01:05:46] | Dagmar: | The /etc/login.defs file should still be able to save you. Set TZ there and it should get set when you login. |
| [01:06:11] | Dagmar: | It's named "EMV_TZ" in that file |
| [01:06:36] | Dagmar: | bleh ENV_TZ. When you set that /bin/login will put that value into TZ in the environment when you login. |
| [01:06:52] | Dagmar: | If you need it set for the daemons and whatnot, you're going to have to set it in an init script. |
| [01:07:09] | Dagmar: | (TZ issues are old hat for me) |
| [01:07:17] | Juski: | but there's no tz files on the disk... |
| [01:07:48] | Dagmar: | It shouldn't actually matter, but if you really want the BST files I can scrounge 'em up. One moment |
| [01:08:10] | Juski: | oh I can find them on another box.. just not slack, that's all. can't imagine it being a problem |
| [01:09:22] | Juski: | done :-) |
| [01:09:36] | Dagmar: | OKay. I'll delete the file I just uploaded then |
| [01:09:50] | Dagmar: | Looks like "GB" is the one you want |
| [01:09:59] | Juski: | yeh I got that thanks |
| [01:10:25] | Juski: | reckon it'll be ok just to copy locale defs over too? |
| [01:10:39] | Dagmar: | Yep. |
| [01:10:48] | Juski: | excellent :) |
| [01:10:52] | Dagmar: | I never noticed glibc doing anything fancy to them |
| [01:11:06] | Dagmar: | I mean, what's it going to do to them at compile time... translate them? ;) |
| [01:11:10] | Juski: | heh |
| [01:11:36] | Juski: | it's not the end of the world if the new locale doesn't work |
| [01:11:41] | Dagmar: | It'll work |
| [01:12:20] | Dagmar: | There's nothing like having to maintain machines in multiple hemispheres for people speaking different CJK languages to get you used to slapping these sorts of changes into place. :/ |
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| [01:12:55] | ru: | ok i figured out the problem |
| [01:12:59] | ru: | it was Xgl |
| [01:13:14] | ru: | Why would Xgl be making my mythtv crash when i try to watch tv/play videos?? |
| [01:13:18] | Juski: | Dagmar: heh... |
| [01:13:40] | Dagmar: | You mean, Xgl as in "the Xgl that's unstable and still under development so it shoudln't be used for production work"-Xgl? |
| [01:13:43] | Juski: | ru: erm... because Xgl is new & still a bit raggy at the edges? |
| [01:13:50] | Dagmar: | That Xgl? |
| [01:14:15] | Juski: | saw the video. looks nice. not my cuppa tea though |
| [01:14:23] | Dagmar: | It's going to be another few months (probably spring) before you'll be able to map your TV watching onto a spinny cube. |
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| [01:14:40] | Dagmar: | I know I definitely wouldn't mind my channel changes happening by flipping the screen |
| [01:14:40] | ru: | ppl have done it already though |
| [01:14:52] | Dagmar: | ru: So what. It's unstable. Don't use it for anything important. |
| [01:15:06] | Juski: | yeh the demo video prolly used patched players |
| [01:15:08] | Dagmar: | Those people probably don't think anything is wrong with a machine crashing a few times a day/hour. |
| [01:15:32] | Dagmar: | If you're developing on something, it's fine. |
| [01:15:44] | Juski: | using opengl textures in myth is kind of shaky anyway isn't it? |
| [01:15:51] | Juski: | for video I mean... |
| [01:15:52] | Dagmar: | If you're just trying to *use* it, it gets annoying fast. |
| [01:16:16] | Dagmar: | Juski: IF Xgl were 100% stable, it wouldn't really be a problem. |
| [01:16:18] | ru: | Dagmar: hehe, u have a point |
| [01:16:34] | ru: | Dagmar: but i just cant quench my insatiable appetite to be on the bleeding edge |
| [01:16:45] | Dagmar: | ru: Dude, we tried and tried and tried to make the new X with Xgl and compiz support available for Dropline users. It wasn't going to happen. |
| [01:17:12] | Dagmar: | ru: "You like bleeding?" Think about that sentence, and all that entails carefully. |
| [01:17:17] | ru: | hah |
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| [01:17:40] | Dagmar: | Bleeding stops for two reasons usually. Either things get better or the user is dead. |
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| [01:18:13] | Dagmar: | Bleeding edge isn't the same thing as cutting edge, you know. |
| [01:18:26] | Dagmar: | Cutting is fine. Bleeding is when it starts to impact performance and utility. |
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| [01:18:49] | Dagmar: | I used to have root on bleeding.edge.net. ;) |
| [01:19:01] | Dagmar: | ...for awhile anyway. The admin was good. |
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| [01:24:22] | Juski: | I prefer the chafing edge myself ;-) |
| [01:24:40] | Dagmar: | Just a mild annoyance, nothing more, eh? |
| [01:24:56] | Juski: | aye. life is infruriating enough |
| [01:25:22] | b^j: | say, i just plugged my myth box into my tv for the first time and i have a blue bar down the middle of my screen when watching anything in myth but not in the menus or normal X, any ideas |
| [01:25:28] | b^j: | any ideas |
| [01:25:47] | Dagmar: | I'm that way about hardware by now. This is why I was telling mchou I'll use the AM2 daughter card over having to replace an entire motherboard, just because I can do that upgrade in 15 minutes without having to tear the whole machine to bits |
| [01:26:10] | Dagmar: | b^j: What video card for output? |
| [01:26:31] | b^j: | Dagmar, nvidia, using nvtv |
| [01:26:57] | Dagmar: | Check the docs for nvtv very carefully for anything that seems like it might be indicating something out of place. |
| [01:27:22] | Dagmar: | What you're describing has to be something going wrong with the video overlay stuff |
| [01:27:40] | Dagmar: | b^j: You didn't compile the nVidia framebuffer support into the kernel did you? |
| [01:28:08] | b^j: | dagmar, using stock debian kernel |
| [01:28:13] | b^j: | Dagmar, not sure |
| [01:28:29] | ** Dagmar thinks a moment... ** | |
| [01:28:53] | Dagmar: | Well, they *probably* didn't load it, but it screws things up. If this is a 2.6.x kernel, check /proc/config.gz |
| [01:28:54] | b^j: | Dagmar, tried the 3 different overscan options and it made no difference |
| [01:29:00] | Dagmar: | Overscan has nothing to do with it. |
| [01:29:11] | b^j: | Dagmar, k, will check that |
| [01:29:37] | b^j: | Dagmar, it didn't do it on my lcd which has s-video in is the weird thing |
| [01:29:38] | Dagmar: | If you're using a framebuffer console, you can *not* use the nVidia framebuffer driver that's in the kernel and the proprietary nVidia X driver module. |
| [01:29:56] | Dagmar: | They conflict, *badly*, and it usually results in areas of memory being mapped permanently to one or the other |
| [01:30:16] | Dagmar: | You don't always get "the mysterious green box" problem, but video overlay stuff seldom works. |
| [01:30:48] | Dagmar: | You can (and should) use the vesafb (plain-jane VESA framebuffer) driver just fine tho |
| [01:31:22] | Dagmar: | You've checked to make sure you're using that card with the *right nVidia driver release*, right? |
| [01:32:05] | b^j: | i am just using nv which comes with debain sid |
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| [01:32:17] | Dagmar: | That is not an answer. That is a cop-out. |
| [01:32:34] | ru: | It seems its just myth's Internal player that doesnt want to work with Xgl |
| [01:32:38] | ru: | Xine is working 100% |
| [01:32:46] | Dagmar: | If you're having to use nvtv to get the composite output on your video card to work, then your card is likely very old. |
| [01:32:49] | ru: | the error I see in the X log is: Server is already active for display |
| [01:32:52] | b^j: | Dagmar, yeah, i'm trying to find the ip so i can loke |
| [01:33:56] | Dagmar: | If your card's PCI ID is not in the list at http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/ . . . endix-a.html then you can't use the 8762 driver. You need to use the 7182 driver (http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-7182.html) with the older ones |
| [01:33:57] | ru: | "Server is already active for display 93" |
| [01:34:09] | ru: | Why would that happen with Xgl? |
| [01:34:13] | Dagmar: | The "too" new driver works *mostly* with the older cards, but things break. |
| [01:34:20] | Dagmar: | ru: because it's not stable and not compatible |
| [01:35:44] | ru: | Dagmar: naah |
| [01:35:50] | ru: | Dagmar: Im just missing something |
| [01:36:02] | ru: | Dagmar: Can i make the Tv play via Xine? |
| [01:36:17] | Dagmar: | Dude, I am not even going to try to help you with that |
| [01:36:32] | Dagmar: | Xgl is not safe for production use yet |
| [01:36:39] | ru: | Dagmar: It is too! |
| [01:36:50] | Dagmar: | I blew *dozens* of hours trying to get it 100% working. I'm telling you it is currently NOT ready. |
| [01:36:59] | Dagmar: | I'm not wasting any more of my life on it. |
| [01:37:05] | ru: | Dagmar: But I waaaaaaaaaaant it ! |
| [01:37:13] | Dagmar: | Then start reading. |
| [01:37:46] | Dagmar: | You need to know how X works, backwards and forwards, just for starters. |
| [01:40:04] | Dagmar: | There are some things Xgl does a little differently that a number of things are not going to like. |
| [01:41:08] | ru: | if u had to guess why do you think myths internal player would be crashing X ? |
| [01:41:18] | Dagmar: | No, Xgl is crashing X. |
| [01:41:31] | Dagmar: | Myth's internal player is not very complex. |
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| [01:43:34] | ru: | What do u think is doing it though? |
| [01:43:41] | Dagmar: | Xgl |
| [01:43:45] | ru: | lol |
| [01:43:55] | Dagmar: | I thought I made that perfectly clear already. |
| [01:44:01] | Dagmar: | Xgl is *not* entirely stable. |
| [01:44:02] | b^j: | Dagmar, for "01:00.0 0300: 10de:0151 (rev a4)" is 0300 my pci id in hex that i should be looking up on that page? |
| [01:44:48] | Dagmar: | b^j: The 0151 is the device code |
| [01:44:54] | Dagmar: | ...which you will note is missing. |
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| [01:45:16] | b^j: | Dagmar, cool, hopefully thats my issue |
| [01:45:19] | Dagmar: | That's a GeForce2 Ti |
| [01:45:28] | Dagmar: | You need the 7182 nVidia driver. |
| [01:45:35] | b^j: | Dagmar, great |
| [01:45:40] | Dagmar: | If you were using the 8xxx driver, that may well have been what was causing the problem. |
| [01:45:41] | b^j: | Dagmar, that i can fix |
| [01:46:10] | Dagmar: | Yeah, people fuss about the nVidia drivers being closed-source, but generally if you pay attention to the one or two important things and use them correctly, they "just work" |
| [01:46:26] | Dagmar: | Miss one of those things and you get problems, but almost never otherwise.. |
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| [01:47:24] | b^j: | Dagmar, just to be clear, the open driver (which i am using) could cause that problems with my gforce2? |
| [01:48:17] | Dagmar: | In theory it shouldn't, but it might be that it's just got a few bugs left in it. |
| [01:48:33] | b^j: | Dagmar, will try closed one next |
| [01:48:42] | Dagmar: | By "open driver" you mean you're using the 'nv' module for X, right? |
| [01:48:53] | b^j: | Dagmar, correct |
| [01:49:04] | Dagmar: | OKay yeah, it's not very accellerated either |
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| [01:49:21] | b^j: | Dagmar, just using it for tv do i need accelleration? |
| [01:49:39] | b^j: | Dagmar, just using a card i had sitting around b/c i thought it didn't matter |
| [01:49:41] | Dagmar: | Dunno. I don't know if it does overlay using special nvidia magic operations or not |
| [01:49:59] | Dagmar: | Well, that card is just *slightly* older than I think I might have used |
| [01:50:09] | Dagmar: | Even a 5200 works like a champ. |
| [01:50:33] | ru: | Dagmar: so u think Xgl is just buggy – its not a configuration issue on my side |
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| [01:50:49] | b^j: | Dagmar, free >> buying a new card |
| [01:50:51] | Dagmar: | I spent $16 on a GeForce MX 400 with a "whopping" 32Mb of RAM on it when the fan on my 5200 died, but I didn't like the quality of it's s-video out, so I went back to my generic 5200 |
| [01:51:07] | Dagmar: | THe replacement chipset fan cost $20. |
| [01:51:15] | Dagmar: | That's the last time I cheap out over $4 |
| [01:51:41] | Dagmar: | ru: You're asking me to speculate about your abiilty to properly configure X. |
| [01:51:43] | b^j: | Dagmar, yeah, the fan is going on this card, i may have to just buy a new one |
| [01:51:57] | ru: | Dagmar: lol |
| [01:52:00] | ru: | Dagmar: I demand u help me sort it out |
| [01:52:06] | b^j: | i put a pentuim cooler on my gforce3 that the fan went on |
| [01:52:12] | b^j: | guess i could try that guy |
| [01:53:12] | Dagmar: | b^j: If it doesn't have the composite port, but instead has the s-video out (nVIdia ditched what was doing composite out and requiring nvtv for a reason) then it's probably a good idea |
| [01:53:21] | Dagmar: | You don't need nvtv with anything but old cards. |
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| [02:31:03] | ru: | my sound suddenly isnt working anymore? |
| [02:31:16] | ru: | I can play music via xine using ALSa |
| [02:31:26] | ru: | but speaker-test doesnt work no matter what device i tell it to use |
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| [02:34:14] | ru: | it looks like /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p is missing? |
| [02:37:05] | ru: | both cards show up under /proc/asound/cards |
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| [02:55:08] | ru: | NVP: Disabling Audio, params(-1,-1,-1) |
| [02:56:48] | ru: | anyone know why i might be getting that? |
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| [03:21:59] | qball2: | sup |
| [03:26:18] | qball2: | Does anyone know if mythtv works with Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder |
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| [03:32:44] | Dagmar: | If it's supported by video4linux is what matters |
| [03:33:12] | Dagmar: | What you're talking about is not one encoder. It's a class of devices. Not all are supported by video4linux. |
| [03:34:58] | qball2: | that one is |
| [03:35:03] | qball2: | i just saw it in there thanks |
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| [04:08:18] | darkdrgn2k: | Hi im tryng to use install dvb but having some troubles. |
| [04:08:35] | darkdrgn2k: | i got the drivers installed and tey seem to work but i cant seem to tune the card |
| [04:09:42] | darkdrgn2k: | Using DVB card "Conexant CX24123/CX24109" |
| [04:09:42] | darkdrgn2k: | tuning DVB-S to L-Band:134537673, Pol:H Srate=20000000, 22kHz=off |
| [04:09:48] | darkdrgn2k: | .. |
| [04:09:48] | darkdrgn2k: | Getting frontend event |
| [04:09:48] | darkdrgn2k: | FE_STATUS: FE_HAS_SIGNAL |
| [04:09:48] | darkdrgn2k: | polling.... |
| [04:10:04] | darkdrgn2k: | sometimes ill get a FE_HAS_CARRIER |
| [04:10:13] | darkdrgn2k: | any one with any ideas |
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| [04:54:41] | topher: | hey #mythtv-users! i moved my cable, so i deleted my old zap2it lineup, added the new one, and ran mythtv-setup and selected the new lineup, then saved and ran mythfilldatabase, but a lot of data is missing and the channel #s are still the old ones. what's the procedure for changing lineups? |
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| [04:57:32] | xris: | topher: empty out the program and channel tables |
| [04:57:49] | topher: | xris: just go into mysql and delete all rows from them? |
| [04:58:08] | xris: | yeah. delete from program;delete from channel; |
| [04:58:12] | xris: | then rerun mythfilldatabase |
| [04:58:17] | topher: | ok |
| [04:58:19] | topher: | thanks xris |
| [04:58:21] | xris: | np |
| [04:58:30] | ** xris goes to make something dessert-like ** | |
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| [06:22:27] | sigger_: | when play an .iso of a dvd it seems to start at the 2nd VOB rather than going to the first and doing menu, etc. any help on remedy? |
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| [06:26:53] | Dagmar: | I'd say make sure the ISO itself isn't the issue. Burning it to a rewriteable and stick it in a consumer DVD player. |
| [06:27:58] | sigger_: | nah, I ran it with xine from shell and it did it right |
| [06:28:34] | sigger_: | (its my wedding video DVD, so no legal issues, BTW) |
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| [06:36:58] | SaguratuS: | Hmm, seem to be segfaulting using svn plugins. Anyone have the current source running successfully? |
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| [06:46:14] | xris: | my backend hangs every once in awhile. |
| [06:46:23] | xris: | once/week or so |
| [06:46:36] | xris: | still haven't had time to set up gdb to figure it out |
| [06:47:59] | sigger_: | got it working with a per file command to run it. no idea why that was needed. |
| [06:48:34] | sigger_: | xris, is that with the current release candidate or an alpha or such |
| [06:48:58] | sigger_: | s/release candidate/stable |
| [06:49:10] | xris: | sigger_: svn |
| [06:49:14] | xris: | from last week sometime |
| [06:49:31] | xris: | I was just responding to SaguratuS... |
| [06:49:50] | xris: | it's not a segfault, though. backend stays running and is partially responsive |
| [06:50:26] | sigger_: | ah ok. got it. just started using knoppmyth and was momentarily concerned over stability. I've heard myth is very stable tho. |
| [06:50:50] | xris: | it usually is. |
| [06:51:02] | xris: | and this bug would likely get fixed if I took the time to find the problem. |
| [06:51:28] | Dagmar: | Don't worry. It only crashes when the screen is mainly full of the color green and lots of things and sounds happen at once. |
| [06:51:41] | Dagmar: | Like the final minutes of an important sports match. |
| [06:52:12] | xris: | Dagmar: you missed the end of the world cup? |
| [06:53:07] | Dagmar: | I woulnd't say I missed it. |
| [06:53:19] | Dagmar: | Completely ignored it is more like it. |
| [06:53:36] | xris: | ahh |
| [06:53:48] | xris: | just sounded bitter, and that's the only big sports match I could think of. |
| [06:54:06] | Dagmar: | Just doing my part to help newbies realize that fear is unproductive. |
| [06:57:07] | SaguratuS: | Ah, looks like it was just a dirty build |
| [06:57:13] | SaguratuS: | Did a make clean and all is good |
| [06:58:39] | Dagmar: | I'm going to remain conspicuously silent on that one.. |
| [06:59:57] | xris: | great.. I think something broke with my firewire setup. |
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| [07:07:38] | ** xris curses.. ** | |
| [07:07:43] | xris: | suddenly I get no firewire connectivity |
| [07:09:39] | libolt: | shouldn't have set that block of ice on it |
| [07:11:21] | dhr: | I'm just running mythtvsetup for the first time. I'm in the screen asking about capture cards. I don't see any way to say that I'm done: only adding and deleting cards. What am I missing? I'm using mythtv-0.19–129.rhfc5.at from atrpms. |
| [07:12:17] | dhr: | BTW, I don't seem to have a mouse cursor. Should I? |
| [07:12:39] | tank-man: | no mouse cursor |
| [07:13:02] | dhr: | AH: the way out is the ESC key. |
| [07:13:09] | tank-man: | esc, enter , arrows |
| [07:15:02] | dhr: | and tab |
| [07:23:39] | xris: | odd. I think my tuner box just freaked out. oh well, now I have a new kernel, etc. |
| [07:24:12] | Dagmar: | There's a place to make the mouse cursor visible, but it'll just mess with your head |
| [07:24:34] | Dagmar: | I had it enabled for all of four minutes. It's way easier to deal with the keyboard or the remote |
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| [07:26:53] | dhr: | Dagmar: quite plausible. I'm a complete newbie w.r.t. mythtv. I sort of expected a normal X desktop application as far as setup was concerned. But I've got to switch into appliance mode at some point. |
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| [07:45:28] | SaguratuS: | Dagmar: I've run gentoo for 11 years, and if I can get away without a make clean, I'll try every time |
| [07:45:39] | SaguratuS: | Dagmar: Works surprisingly well actually, heh |
| [07:46:43] | SaguratuS: | Er, not quite 11, first years were spent in good ol redhat |
| [07:48:00] | Dagmar: | Perhaps you misunderstand... |
| [07:48:11] | SaguratuS: | Eh? |
| [07:48:55] | Dagmar: | The commend I was not going make was: "A dirty, dirty build. Kink-y." |
| [07:49:11] | SaguratuS: | Sheesh |
| [07:49:13] | Dagmar: | heh |
| [07:49:35] | Dagmar: | It is for this reason that I usually use the term "unclean". |
| [07:49:49] | Dagmar: | No one (except possibly hindus) get that one confused with anything else. |
| [07:49:53] | SaguratuS: | I believe I'll follow your footsteps there |
| [07:50:38] | SaguratuS: | Surprised at how well this build is doing though, fixed quite a few problems |
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| [07:51:02] | SaguratuS: | All that's left is to fix the xvmc interlace shimmering |
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| [07:52:12] | wishie: | i cant seem to control mplayer at all, once i play a video. cant stop it, fast forward it, or anything... how can i fix this ? |
| [07:52:24] | SaguratuS: | Sounds like you need keybindings |
| [07:52:42] | roger55: | wishie, sounds like you need to run a windowmanger? |
| [07:52:51] | SaguratuS: | Or that, heh |
| [07:52:58] | wishie: | does mythtv control mplayer via the -slave method ? |
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| [07:54:59] | wishie: | is xine preferred over mplayer ? |
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| [07:57:25] | SaguratuS: | It's all preference |
| [07:58:10] | SaguratuS: | Awhile back, I was forced to use mplayer over xine due to XGL bugs, and I actually kind of like it |
| [07:58:32] | SaguratuS: | Faster, although it has it's problems |
| [07:59:20] | wishie: | well right now, i cant control mplayer, so that is a pain |
| [07:59:43] | wishie: | do you actually control mplayer directly, or does mythtv do it via mplayers -slave option and stdin |
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| [08:00:54] | SaguratuS: | Personally I just control it directly, and map remote buttons accordingly |
| [08:01:19] | wishie: | but i have te remote buttons mapped for mythtv already.. |
| [08:01:43] | wishie: | it seems rather clumbsy (to me) to have several lircrc files for different apps |
| [08:02:14] | SaguratuS: | Well, mplayer doesn't exactly have any method to understand your myth lircrc |
| [08:02:43] | wishie: | it has a slave option |
| [08:02:53] | wishie: | where as myth sends mplayer commands |
| [08:03:29] | SaguratuS: | myth on the other hand is not going to receive remote commands via lircrc when mplayer is up |
| [08:03:44] | wishie: | i know that is how freevo does it.. when you press ffwd (or whatever) freevo tells mplayer to ffwd via stdin |
| [08:05:49] | SaguratuS: | Myth is more of a controllable manual solution as far as I know, doesn't depend on mplayer/xine |
| [08:06:46] | wishie: | so the key is to give mplayer its own lircrc then |
| [08:07:11] | wishie: | so when mplayer is active, mythtv wont react to the key presses ? |
| [08:07:25] | SaguratuS: | shouldn't, no |
| [08:08:10] | wishie: | ill give it a go... |
| [08:10:14] | SaguratuS: | Blah, only if the nvidia drivers had proper vsync under XGL |
| [08:10:17] | SaguratuS: | I'd be set for life |
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| [08:11:07] | SaguratuS: | Actually, that'd be the fault of mesa/xgl, wouldn't it? |
| [08:16:12] | Dagmar: | Give 'em a few weeks.. That's exactly the sort of thing they'll get hot and bothered to debug |
| [08:16:33] | Dagmar: | But otherwise I say "Don't use Xgl" |
| [08:16:35] | Dagmar: | :) |
| [08:16:46] | Dagmar: | Don't worry. I'm paying for my evil now. |
| [08:16:55] | Dagmar: | Ther'es some screwey autoconf macro that's breaking part of my gimp builds |
| [08:17:06] | Dagmar: | This is going to take *hours* to sort out a sane workaround. |
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| [08:29:40] | SaguratuS: | Don't use XGL? are you nuts? |
| [08:31:01] | SaguratuS: | The -only- problem I have with xgl is no vsync on xv. Simply just revert to gl/gl2 output for vsync, and use the underlying server for vsync on xv/xvmc with 1080p content |
| [08:36:12] | Dagmar: | You intend to have your TV displayed on the surface of a spinning cube? |
| [08:36:26] | Dagmar: | Me, I prefer not to use beta features in production environments. |
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| [08:44:08] | SaguratuS: | I can't entirely call the couch a production environment, but I'm referring to the desktop, not the myth box |
| [08:44:54] | adante: | aussies ahoy? |
| [08:45:28] | SaguratuS: | wannabe aussies. |
| [08:45:40] | SaguratuS: | Just late night american coloradian here |
| [08:47:14] | Dagmar: | I refer to anything I don't want to have to be forever dorking with to keep it running a "production environment" |
| [08:47:22] | Dagmar: | ...since that's basically what they amount to. |
| [08:48:11] | adante: | dang |
| [08:48:13] | adante: | whats the use of ya |
| [08:48:33] | Dagmar: | I make systems that never, ever, fall over. |
| [08:48:40] | Dagmar: | Strangely, some people pay money for this. :) |
| [08:49:22] | adante: | was talking to sags but ok :] |
| [08:51:51] | Dagmar: | Uploading |
| [08:52:02] | Dagmar: | (doh wrong channel) |
| [08:52:19] | SaguratuS: | Dagmar, Never. the fun is in the fiddling. Bleeding edge is the only way to go |
| [08:52:31] | Dagmar: | I have fun fiddling only to a point. |
| [08:52:36] | Dagmar: | Then I just wanna watch some TV. |
| [08:53:33] | Dagmar: | Now, if I were actively developing/debugging Xgl, it crashing would not bother me. |
| [08:53:37] | Dagmar: | It would give me something to fix. |
| [08:54:12] | Dagmar: | ...but since I"m more worried about MythTV recording Skinimax instead of the Cartoon Channel, or not recording Skinimax when it's supposed to, having Xgl crash is just going to be a botheration. |
| [08:55:40] | SaguratuS: | Surprising as it is, I have yet to have xgl/compiz crash on me |
| [08:55:51] | SaguratuS: | Far more stable than the composite extension has ever been |
| [08:56:41] | Dagmar: | Okay I will give it *that*, but the previous compositor was a bloody nightmaare. |
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| [08:57:06] | ender224455: | hi |
| [08:57:18] | Dagmar: | When I was feeling out that one as a possible desktop enhancement, I could barely get done sending an email to someone saying "I don't think this is going to work" without X going up in flames. |
| [08:57:44] | ender224455: | I know this is a real n00b question, but does the PVR-150 work well with MythTV? |
| [08:58:20] | SaguratuS: | Dagmar, yes, yes it was |
| [08:58:31] | Dagmar: | ender224455: it works "well enough" |
| [08:58:37] | SaguratuS: | xcompmgr was a complete joke |
| [08:58:45] | ender224455: | Dagmar: what does that mean? |
| [08:58:51] | Dagmar: | It has only one tuner. |
| [08:59:05] | ender224455: | that just means it can only record one thing at a time, right? |
| [08:59:17] | SaguratuS: | Right |
| [08:59:25] | Dagmar: | If you think perhaps you might ever want to be able to watch TV while it's recording something, or record two programs at once, you might want to consider going ahead and getting a PVR-500 |
| [08:59:34] | Dagmar: | Same functionality, but with two tuners in it. |
| [08:59:52] | SaguratuS: | PVR500 = 2x 150's. Although I prefer to go with individual 250's |
| [09:00:01] | Dagmar: | No nasty price gouge for the "convenience" either. It costs about as much as two 150's |
| [09:00:07] | ender224455: | damn |
| [09:00:19] | ender224455: | well, I'm getting a pvr-150 for $40 |
| [09:00:25] | SaguratuS: | Not bad |
| [09:00:29] | Dagmar: | Okay, that IS cheap |
| [09:00:38] | Dagmar: | SaguratuS: Why the 250? |
| [09:00:39] | ender224455: | Craigslist :) |
| [09:01:01] | SaguratuS: | Dagmar: Not sure anymore. Did the research and there was a reason I wanted the 250 over the 150 |
| [09:01:45] | Dagmar: | At one time I thought that the 150 didnt' do hardware accel. Now i see that the main difference is the 250 appears to be able to record using MPEG1 (which no one gives a damn about) |
| [09:01:48] | qu0zl: | don't think there's a reason to get a 250 over a 150 anymore SaguratuS. The 250 was better supported a good while ago, but not anymore |
| [09:01:53] | ender224455: | This might not make sense, but while I'm installing with Knopmyth, shoudl I select the option for the PVR 250 (even if I have the 150) |
| [09:02:24] | Dagmar: | ender224455: Unless it has a 150 option listed |
| [09:02:53] | ender224455: | Dagmar: OK, cool. I just watched a video of Kevin rose installing mythtv on a box and only saw the 250 listed |
| [09:02:54] | SaguratuS: | Dagmar, checking out the differences between them. Was thinking about picking up some more tuners, first one was a 350, needed the video out though |
| [09:03:12] | SaguratuS: | Since then I picked up a nice little 47" 1080p lcd, heh |
| [09:03:26] | Dagmar: | Ah which means you had to go right back to an AGP card. Heh |
| [09:03:54] | SaguratuS: | PCIe actually =P |
| [09:04:24] | ender224455: | does the radeon 8500 have video out for a TV? |
| [09:04:49] | SaguratuS: | http://capnbry.net/~bmayland/fi/pvr150/ |
| [09:04:54] | SaguratuS: | That's why I went with the 350 |
| [09:05:43] | SaguratuS: | Er, well, why I want 250 over 150 |
| [09:06:05] | Dagmar: | It could just as easily be the production run |
| [09:06:34] | SaguratuS: | Nah. I found quite a bit of info on the comparison between the two |
| [09:06:44] | SaguratuS: | That's just the first page I pulled up on google |
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| [09:08:16] | Juski: | morning |
| [09:08:17] | Dagmar: | The only problem is that the various pages have differing opinions |
| [09:08:20] | ender224455: | another n00b question.. how do I go about getting the sound into my TV if I am using S-video and my sound card has outputs for the tiny metal things (like for headphones) |
| [09:08:27] | Dagmar: | Note that http://www.diy-pvr-dvr-htpc.com/index.php/Dif . . . VR350_PVR500 says the opposit |
| [09:08:53] | Juski: | ender224455: with a stereo mini-jack plug to (whatever connector your TV uses) cable of course |
| [09:09:25] | ender224455: | Juski: OK, just double checking, I wanted to make sure I don't need some special output from my audio card |
| [09:10:12] | ender224455: | alright, I'm heading to bed. Thanks very much for your help everyone |
| [09:10:22] | Juski: | ender224455: there's usually nothing 'special' about sound card connections. well, creative cards are excluded from that statement, but usually anything more than an sblive is a waste of money in linux machines |
| [09:10:23] | Dagmar: | Like, enough that I suspect if I were to be a hardcore geek about it, and order replacement capacitors and resistors and so forth of high quality for the board that I could increase my image quality |
| [09:10:56] | ender224455: | Juski: okay, thanks again |
| [09:11:10] | Juski: | Dagmar: I've found it's more often a card's tuner that lets the quality down more than anything else |
| [09:11:31] | Dagmar: | I do begin to think that it's basically just a matter of Hauppage using components of varying quality without really giving a damn |
| [09:11:32] | SaguratuS: | Dagmar: Wiki page is just a description listing |
| [09:12:10] | SaguratuS: | Well, I'll pick up a 500 and do a comparison run of my own |
| [09:12:35] | Dagmar: | SaguratuS: ^F, "smidge" |
| [09:12:54] | Dagmar: | I get differing picture quality on different channels with either tuner on the 500 I have |
| [09:13:10] | Dagmar: | Some channels come in slightly better on Tuner 1 than Tuner 2 and so forth |
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| [09:13:24] | Dagmar: | Moving the damn thing up higher in the case actually made an overall picture difference as well |
| [09:13:27] | Juski: | Dagmar: everything's done down to a price, and I expect sometimes they have to source alternative components which may not be as good as the original ones they specify on the bill of materials ;-) |
| [09:13:29] | Dagmar: | YAY for RFI. :// |
| [09:13:55] | Juski: | Dagmar: PC case designs usually don't do anything to help RFI... infact often the opposite |
| [09:14:02] | Dagmar: | Juski: Well, with TV tuner cards, it's always been pretty extreme in that way in my experience |
| [09:14:11] | Dagmar: | I've probably owned 15–16 different tuner cards |
| [09:14:17] | Dagmar: | The quality has always been pretty varying. |
| [09:14:34] | Dagmar: | I've got three identical cards from one company, all with different oddities about them |
| [09:14:37] | SaguratuS: | Same. I gave up on the BT848/878 cards |
| [09:14:42] | Dagmar: | Yeah |
| [09:14:53] | Juski: | cheap cards are shite, end of story ;-) |
| [09:15:10] | Dagmar: | 6 of mine were 848's, four were 878a's |
| [09:15:29] | Dagmar: | My attitude now is that it's *not* worth the hassle to even try to record without hardware compression |
| [09:15:30] | Juski: | newer bttv cards are still let down by having shitty tuners |
| [09:16:50] | Dagmar: | Anyway, definitely time for a sandwich run. I'm going to *try* to make some headway on this damn docbook DTD packaging before morning comes |
| [09:17:21] | Dagmar: | I swear someone should do a study on the effect that particular suite has on people. I think they might find there's been a lot of suicides. |
| [09:18:29] | Dagmar: | After an hour of looking at the minute differences between 4.1.2, 4.2, 4.3, etc etc and constructing all the bizarre little commands necessary to get them into and out of the catalogs properly, violence towards *someone* starts to sound pretty good |
| [09:18:40] | Dagmar: | s/an hour/just an hour/; |
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| [09:36:37] | emja: | can anyone point me to a mythtv howto for Fedora Core five (or similar)? |
| [09:37:19] | Merlin83b: | Tried google, emja |
| [09:37:20] | Merlin83b: | ? |
| [09:37:25] | emja: | yup |
| [09:37:25] | Merlin83b: | fedora core mythtv |
| [09:37:29] | Merlin83b: | First link. |
| [09:37:38] | emja: | but wanted to know of any recommended howto's |
| [09:37:43] | Merlin83b: | That's the one. |
| [09:37:44] | emja: | you're kidding! sorry |
| [09:37:47] | ** emja blushes ** | |
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| [09:38:39] | emja: | Merlin83b: you meant the wilsonet one? |
| [09:38:47] | Merlin83b: | Yes |
| [09:38:54] | emja: | thanks |
| [09:39:24] | emja: | i searched for /mythtv fc5/, hence why I missed this one |
| [09:40:01] | Dagmar: | Hey, you tried in a reasonable manner at least. |
| [09:40:22] | Dagmar: | You don't want to know how many people come in here who think that "google" is a misspelled number. |
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| [09:42:27] | emja: | heh |
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| [10:03:20] | LLyric: | Anyone had luck with the second (usb) tuner on the Dvico HD Dual thingy? |
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| [11:29:15] | Juski: | haw haw.. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/07/05/it_support_anecdotes/ |
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| [11:38:00] | laga: | re |
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| [11:53:58] | emja: | Juski: very good, thankyou for the distraction. ;-) |
| [11:57:03] | scopeuk: | Juski saw that a few days ago very funney |
| [11:57:13] | scopeuk: | i liek the powercut one |
| [11:57:18] | scopeuk: | i have friends like that |
| [11:57:27] | Juski: | my broadbean isn't working :-/ |
| [11:57:36] | scopeuk: | also know someone who wasent happy becouse the system faled again 6 months after i sent it back |
| [11:57:41] | scopeuk: | lol |
| [11:57:52] | scopeuk: | the floppy one or was that on the /. comments |
| [11:58:22] | emja: | i've had the floppy one occur to me (but with a CD0, and I've had the printer/power-on one happen too |
| [11:59:07] | scopeuk: | i've had any key |
| [11:59:50] | scopeuk: | printer power is more obvious with usb printers these days becosue the computer knows when its not there |
| [11:59:56] | Juski: | anyone here using mythtv? |
| [12:00:00] | emja: | yeah. mine was a few years back |
| [12:00:05] | emja: | Juski: duh |
| [12:00:11] | Juski: | comeon .. answer me! |
| [12:00:16] | Juski: | is anyone here using mythtv? |
| [12:00:18] | Juski: | bah |
| [12:00:19] | scopeuk: | Juski of course not |
| [12:00:26] | scopeuk: | i mean its not like were here for any good reason |
| [12:00:27] | Juski: | unfriendly useless channel |
| [12:00:32] | scopeuk: | lol |
| [12:00:34] | emja: | that's like going into a brothel and asking if anyone has lost their virginity |
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| [12:00:39] | scopeuk: | yes yes i am using myth |
| [12:00:44] | emja: | ;-) |
| [12:00:49] | scopeuk: | ;-) |
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| [12:01:04] | Juski: | drama queen? |
| [12:01:11] | emja: | hahaha |
| [12:01:12] | scopeuk: | i whould have gone with macdopnalds and asking if anyone like beef |
| [12:01:21] | ** emja nods to scopeuk ** | |
| [12:01:34] | emja: | Juski: what's up? |
| [12:01:34] | Juski: | it's ok there – their burgers are only like 1% beef anyway |
| [12:01:44] | emja: | Juski: very true |
| [12:02:38] | scopeuk: | no there not jsuki there 100% reconstituted cow carcass |
| [12:03:33] | Juski: | hmm |
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| [12:13:24] | sapbeast: | thankfully my broadbean IS working |
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| [13:09:53] | Juski: | quiet today. still, at least there's not been any lame-assed questions yet |
| [13:11:15] | Merlin83b: | Hi Juski. |
| [13:11:40] | Juski: | hi Merlin83b . good news. I got zenslack worky |
| [13:11:49] | Juski: | very little to do with that |
| [13:11:56] | Merlin83b: | Cool. |
| [13:12:00] | Merlin83b: | Booting from where? |
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| [13:12:56] | Juski: | USB flash |
| [13:13:11] | Juski: | I dunno if the kernel provided has nfsroot capability |
| [13:13:33] | Juski: | still – comes in at a little over 400MB |
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| [13:13:52] | Merlin83b: | Cool. SCART going on it? |
| [13:15:02] | Juski: | not yet but that's a 5 minute job |
| [13:15:20] | Juski: | copy file A to fs B |
| [13:15:21] | Juski: | ;-) |
| [13:16:29] | Merlin83b: | Yeah, because things always turn out to be that simple ;-) |
| [13:16:54] | Juski: | no, _really_ |
| [13:16:55] | sapbeast: | Juski: ill help you out... OMG WTF DOES rm -rf / DO THIS GUY AZSKED ME TO TYPE IT AND NOW MY COMPUTER BROKEN |
| [13:17:27] | Merlin83b: | Once you have it as a USB flash booting fe with SCART going I'll properly look at getting one :-) |
| [13:17:35] | Juski: | sapbeast: be a good chap & go down to the local computer shop. Give the nice man at the desk your credit card and walk out with a new PC |
| [13:18:13] | Juski: | Merlin83b: ok. and once someone else has done the work, I'm gonna have the coolest myth FE ever :-P |
| [13:18:22] | Merlin83b: | Spot on :D |
| [13:18:55] | Merlin83b: | I see my role in this as providing encouragement :-) |
| [13:19:14] | sapbeast: | well maybe i should have tried harder to be more lame |
| [13:19:20] | Beirdo: | !help |
| [13:19:28] | Beirdo: | yay, it lives |
| [13:19:30] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [13:19:39] | sapbeast: | but its actually surprsingly hard to make up fake lame questions when your job depends on being not dumb :p |
| [13:19:48] | Beirdo: | with my own flood protection code now, so hopefully it will behave |
| [13:19:57] | Juski: | heheh |
| [13:21:23] | Beirdo: | this weather's just lovely. Been raining for about 15h straight |
| [13:21:40] | Beirdo: | yay for hurricane season. This is in a "tropical wave" |
| [13:21:41] | Juski: | wow. is PR twinned with Manchester? |
| [13:21:53] | Beirdo: | heh, could be |
| [13:22:11] | Beirdo: | just wait until the real storms come, see how ya like it |
| [13:22:21] | ** Juski googles for ways to undo a cricked neck ** | |
| [13:22:45] | Beirdo: | I believe it's called 'chiropractor' |
| [13:22:45] | Juski: | (damn addictive xbox game) |
| [13:23:15] | nero: | chiropractor's.. just stay away.. ergh... |
| [13:23:27] | Beirdo: | it's worth it, nero |
| [13:23:44] | nero: | not when they want to "readjust" you, and it turns out you have a herniated disc.. |
| [13:24:00] | Beirdo: | I went from not being able to turn my neck more than like 10 degrees to almost full range of motion |
| [13:24:09] | Beirdo: | well, maybe YOUR chiro sucked :) |
| [13:24:12] | Beirdo: | that's possible |
| [13:24:18] | Beirdo: | mine was cute and pregnant. |
| [13:24:19] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [13:24:28] | nero: | Brother in-law went from needing anti-inflamitories and rest, to needing surgery.. |
| [13:24:52] | Beirdo: | that sucks |
| [13:24:55] | Juski: | well, if my only option is to pay or put up, I'll put up |
| [13:25:01] | nero: | he was supposedly "one of the best around".. there are TONS of cases where chiropractors, without knowing what it is that needs to be done, screw things up.. |
| [13:25:31] | nero: | though having some cute lady give me a back rub doesnt sound so bad.. ;) |
| [13:25:47] | Beirdo: | and she insisted on me getting x-rays first |
| [13:25:56] | Beirdo: | she's smarter than some, I guess |
| [13:26:28] | Juski: | maybe she's not a fan of being sued ;-) |
| [13:26:36] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [13:26:38] | Beirdo: | that too |
| [13:26:46] | nero: | Oh, I dont doubt that there are good ones out there.. but it is really rolling the dice.. |
| [13:27:09] | nero: | (and most dont have the capabilities or credentials to be doing x-rays, MRI's, etc.. to properly diagnose what is wrong) |
| [13:28:02] | Beirdo: | Of course, different countries have different qualifying methods, I think Ontario is more strict than some |
| [13:28:09] | Beirdo: | but of course, I'm not there anymore |
| [13:28:43] | Beirdo: | sigh, I wanna go back to sleep |
| [13:28:48] | nero: | Probably.. in Ontario/Canada, a "chiropractor" might be an actual doctor for all I know.. here in the US, they definitely aren't doctors.. |
| [13:29:02] | Beirdo: | got woken up at 6:30 by the sound of my laptop losing power and the AC shutting off |
| [13:29:08] | Beirdo: | then turning back on 30s later |
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| [13:29:25] | nero: | (heck, my insurance will cover a trip to a doctor, but not to a chiropractor.. so its even cheaper for me to go see a back specialist) |
| [13:29:26] | Juski: | someone's back from his holidays... |
| [13:29:33] | stuarta: | :-) |
| [13:29:36] | Beirdo: | chiros have to take medical training in Ontario, and many are doctors too |
| [13:29:45] | Beirdo: | usually naturopath |
| [13:29:54] | Beirdo: | heya, stuarta... welcome back |
| [13:30:37] | stuarta: | thanks. absolutely shattered. up 4am sat, didn't sleep till about 10pm yesterday |
| [13:30:45] | nero: | howdy stuarta ! |
| [13:30:47] | Beirdo: | eek |
| [13:30:57] | ** Beirdo brews stuarta some espresso ** | |
| [13:31:04] | stuarta: | and that's after about a week of 2hrs sleep :) |
| [13:31:07] | Beirdo: | actually, I should brew MYSELF some :) |
| [13:31:18] | Beirdo: | but I'm already on the couch |
| [13:31:26] | stuarta: | nero: howdy. |
| [13:31:55] | stuarta: | i'd prefer a cup of tea, northern style.... |
| [13:32:28] | Beirdo: | but of course. You're a Brit, I shoulda known better. |
| [13:32:42] | stuarta: | bzzt. aussie in england |
| [13:32:49] | Beirdo: | same difference |
| [13:32:49] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [13:33:05] | ** stuarta ignores Beirdo ** | |
| [13:33:40] | Beirdo: | I'm sorry. Aussies are cool anyways, but I mean same difference in that yer still commonwealth-type, and many of us are tea fans :) |
| [13:33:51] | stuarta: | :-) |
| [13:34:07] | Beirdo: | Canada's an odd bunch, we get the coffee habit from the US and the tea from England |
| [13:34:32] | Beirdo: | and then there's my wife... she can't stand tea |
| [13:34:38] | Beirdo: | "tastes like water" |
| [13:34:38] | Beirdo: | bah |
| [13:34:54] | Beirdo: | but she won't let me make her any to prove her wrong |
| [13:35:02] | stuarta: | do they like to stand spoons up in their coffee over there? |
| [13:35:04] | Beirdo: | some nice russian caravan tea would cure her of thinking THAT |
| [13:35:11] | Beirdo: | yeah, pretty much |
| [13:35:22] | Beirdo: | we have a drip coffee machine and an espresso maker |
| [13:35:31] | Beirdo: | the espresso gets daily use, the drip rarely |
| [13:35:50] | stuarta: | russian tea is lovely.... |
| [13:36:08] | Beirdo: | that strong smoky flavour. YUM |
| [13:36:24] | Beirdo: | if you are a fan of peaty scotches, chances are you will love russian caravan |
| [13:36:46] | stuarta: | laphroig anyone? |
| [13:36:53] | Beirdo: | mmmm ;) |
| [13:37:08] | Beirdo: | ain't got no scotch here :( |
| [13:37:21] | Beirdo: | probably a good thing, we have teenagers from the church over all the time |
| [13:38:21] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [13:38:31] | Beirdo: | just remembering a couple days ago |
| [13:38:36] | Beirdo: | I went to make coffee |
| [13:38:52] | Beirdo: | first, I forgot to put water in the machine, didn't notice for 10min |
| [13:38:59] | Beirdo: | "where the heck is my coffee!?" |
| [13:39:01] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [13:39:22] | Beirdo: | then I put water in, and forgot to screw on the lid... resulting in a column of steam |
| [13:39:45] | Beirdo: | then I finally got it right. Meanwhile, my wife was laughing at me :) |
| [13:39:59] | stuarta: | oh dear. this unemployment isn't doing you any favours... |
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| [13:42:39] | AngryElf: | anyone familiar with setting up lirc as a remote and a blaster on the same system? — I remember seeing a script that modified the source of lirc replacing all instances of "lirc" with "irblaster" or something like that in order to have two instances of the software running....does anyone recognize this? |
| [13:47:25] | Beirdo: | it was just being SO tired that did it to me |
| [13:47:34] | Beirdo: | anyways, it went well this time |
| [13:47:44] | ** Beirdo is back with a quadruple espresso ** | |
| [13:47:45] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [13:47:49] | stuarta: | thats what I feel like now. |
| [13:48:04] | ** stuarta is deperately trying to avoid keyboard face... ** | |
| [13:48:12] | Beirdo: | I think next time we go shopping, I'm insisting on buying tea |
| [13:48:32] | stuarta: | i'll put money on it being crap |
| [13:48:46] | stuarta: | usually is in coffee countries.... |
| [13:48:46] | Beirdo: | it would be Tetley, likely |
| [13:48:56] | Beirdo: | which ain't the best, but ain't the worst |
| [13:49:03] | Beirdo: | I want to find a TEA shoppe here :) |
| [13:49:07] | Beirdo: | yummy |
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| [13:50:47] | Beirdo: | be funny if the closest were the British Virgin Islands |
| [13:51:03] | stuarta: | buy a boat? |
| [13:51:21] | Beirdo: | nah, it's a cheap flight |
| [13:51:30] | Beirdo: | but it would mess up immigration |
| [13:51:31] | Beirdo: | hmm |
| [13:51:53] | Beirdo: | at least I have local coffee ;) |
| [13:51:54] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [13:53:37] | Beirdo: | argh |
| [13:53:44] | Beirdo: | I forget the site for the yellow pages here |
| [13:54:31] | Beirdo: | ah yes. superpagespr.com |
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| [13:58:18] | Beirdo: | |
| [13:58:18] | Beirdo: | |
| [13:58:24] | Beirdo: | hmmm, that looks promising |
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| [14:05:48] | Beirdo: | hahah |
| [14:06:02] | Beirdo: | there goes the neighbor's car alarm again.. big thunder. |
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| [14:18:22] | ezeki3l: | is 750Mhz Athlon with like 320MB ram enough to mythtv? |
| [14:18:48] | Juski: | 320MB? odd multiple |
| [14:18:49] | Beirdo: | probably, unless you plan on using HD signals |
| [14:19:01] | ezeki3l: | naw, no HD |
| [14:19:19] | Beirdo: | Juski, 256+64 :) |
| [14:19:31] | ezeki3l: | but, even if it was HD, wouldn't it be video intensive rather than CPU intensive? |
| [14:19:31] | Juski: | heh. pardon my monday-ness |
| [14:19:37] | ezeki3l: | i mean, video card |
| [14:19:53] | stuarta: | it'd record dvb hd, just not play it back... |
| [14:19:57] | Juski: | 750mhz would be fine for recording & storing but not for playback |
| [14:20:06] | Beirdo: | it might be marginal to run, but if you use a PVR-250/150 (hardware compression to MPEG2) and a newish nvidia card, you should be fine, I would think |
| [14:20:26] | ezeki3l: | Beirdo: even for HD? |
| [14:20:35] | Juski: | my 800mhz box can record & playback mpeg2 without any bother |
| [14:20:38] | Beirdo: | if you use MPEG2 and the mpeg2 decoding in the nvidia, standard definition TV should work |
| [14:20:41] | Beirdo: | not HD, no |
| [14:21:07] | Juski: | so stuarta: feeling like you need a holiday to recover from the holiday? must've been a good un ;-) |
| [14:21:16] | Beirdo: | if you use a software encoder card (like BTTV, etc), it will likely be too slow |
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| [14:21:51] | ezeki3l: | mmk |
| [14:21:57] | ezeki3l: | what's a recomended capture card? |
| [14:22:03] | Juski: | pvr150/pvr500 |
| [14:22:08] | ezeki3l: | that also doesn't cost a limb and a leg |
| [14:22:10] | ezeki3l: | ok |
| [14:22:21] | Beirdo: | Hauppauge PVR150 or PVR250 (almost the same card) |
| [14:22:26] | Beirdo: | or a PVR500 for dual tuner |
| [14:22:35] | Juski: | when your cpu is that slow your cheapness options are limited severely |
| [14:22:46] | ezeki3l: | heh |
| [14:22:47] | ezeki3l: | ok |
| [14:23:05] | Juski: | so you can either buy a $25 tuner & upgrade the system, or spend a little more on the tuner & not have to upgrade ;-) |
| [14:23:08] | haj: | hey... i can't seem to make mythtv always record Simpsons.. program name and description never changes in the guide.. but, how do i make it stop the dupe-check completely for a schedule? |
| [14:23:24] | ezeki3l: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815116633 |
| [14:23:33] | ezeki3l: | is this the PVR-150 you were saying? |
| [14:23:46] | haj: | now i have it set to 'Check for duplicates in: Only new episodes' and 'Duplicate Check Method: None' |
| [14:24:36] | haj: | any hints.. or could it be a bug? |
| [14:24:53] | ezeki3l: | it says "Record your TV shows to disk using the built-in hardware MPEG-2 encoder." |
| [14:25:46] | Dagmar: | ezeki3l: If it's made by Hauppage then yes, it's the PVR-150 we talk about here |
| [14:25:55] | ezeki3l: | nice |
| [14:26:27] | ezeki3l: | now i just need to find a very quiete PSU |
| [14:26:29] | ezeki3l: | heh |
| [14:26:57] | Dagmar: | that's actually not that hard |
| [14:27:03] | Dagmar: | Look for 80mm fans |
| [14:27:22] | Dagmar: | The main reason being they don't need to spin as fast, and are therefore quieter right from the start |
| [14:27:36] | ezeki3l: | are they easily fit into a give PSU? |
| [14:27:40] | ezeki3l: | oh |
| [14:27:47] | Dagmar: | Yes. |
| [14:27:50] | ezeki3l: | are there are good silet PSU you guys know about? |
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| [14:27:53] | Dagmar: | TTGI makes several models actually |
| [14:28:01] | Dagmar: | You probably don't want one *without* a fan |
| [14:28:08] | ezeki3l: | right |
| [14:28:10] | Dagmar: | Not unless you'd like to get very pricey about it |
| [14:28:37] | ezeki3l: | hmmmk |
| [14:28:49] | Dagmar: | I'd give omre input but I was listening to a radio program a minute ago and got a really, really, good idea. I gotta email the smartest guys i know about it |
| [14:29:09] | Dagmar: | ...for once it's an idea that doesn't result directly in the generation of new software |
| [14:29:14] | haj: | ezeki3l: if you want a _very_ silent PSU you could get an external... read something about that on silentpcreview some time ago, think it was in their forum |
| [14:30:07] | ezeki3l: | ok thanks |
| [14:30:29] | null_: | ezeki3l: I don't know if this company sells products outside of Europe, but I can recommend the Raptoxx ones. They're cheap (about 20–30$), have about 400W and they're quiet. My system's loudest component is still the harddisk... |
| [14:31:50] | ezeki3l: | hmm... that's another thing to think about |
| [14:31:55] | haj: | i have a passive cooled PSU.. dosn't make much noise either.. but it needs air going through the case.. |
| [14:31:58] | ezeki3l: | i know samsung makes quete drives |
| [14:32:25] | haj: | seagate is quite quiet also... |
| [14:32:47] | Beirdo: | seagates are rated the quietest consistantly, AFAIK |
| [14:32:52] | ezeki3l: | ah |
| [14:32:57] | ezeki3l: | nice |
| [14:33:00] | null_: | ezeki3l: I'm using a 2.5 inch laptop drive, it's quiet but you hear it ;) |
| [14:33:35] | Beirdo: | I swear by my Seagates |
| [14:33:36] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [14:33:38] | haj: | my MythTV-disk is about the most noisy disk i have ;) but my MythTV box isn't placed in my livingroom.... ;) |
| [14:34:01] | Beirdo: | even when Canada Post managed to totally shatter the motherboards in two of my machines in shipping, the drives were just fine |
| [14:34:26] | haj: | it dosn't matter if it makes noisy... since it dosn't record anything atm because it thinks it already recorded all the shows i want it to record ;) |
| [14:34:31] | haj: | -y |
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| [14:37:36] | ezeki3l: | well, my mythtv box will probably be right next to the TV in the living room |
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| [15:41:47] | AngryElf: | there's this option in mythtv-setup -> general....."follow symlinks when deleting files" my myth directory is a sym link......if that option isn't enabled would that prevent auto-expire from deleting files? |
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| [15:49:11] | Beirdo: | quite likely, AngryElf |
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| [15:52:46] | Merlin83b: | GreyFoxx: You around? |
| [15:53:03] | sphery: | haj: What makes you think it's the duplicate matching that's preventing Myth from recording the Simpsons? |
| [15:53:06] | sphery: | It sounds like it's something else. |
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| [15:56:56] | sphery: | AngryElf: I don't think it matters if the directory containing recordings is a symlink (at least not to that option). The option allows you to delete a symlink to a recording and the file to which it links. |
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| [16:01:10] | GreyFoxx: | Merlin83b: YUp |
| [16:02:00] | Merlin83b: | GreyFoxx: Didn't get a mail about that colo... |
| [16:02:11] | GreyFoxx: | Sorry, that was my fault I got busy |
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| [16:02:43] | Merlin83b: | No worries. |
| [16:02:56] | sigger: | got xine playing a dvd iso file and had significant interlacing issues. From R'ing TFM and reading forums, it appears there are de-interlacing filters to apply which I will play with. Is this also perhaps a result of playing from an iso/vob requiring more processing power? i.e. would I get better picture quality from an avi or vob not in an iso? |
| [16:02:58] | GreyFoxx: | /msg'ing you now |
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| [16:05:39] | Anduin: | sigger: No. |
| [16:06:08] | sigger: | Anduin: Good. Thank you. |
| [16:06:24] | AngryElf: | hmm, apache is saying there aren't any mysql libraries for php even though I've got the package php5-mysql installed, does some config file need to be edited? |
| [16:07:07] | kormoc: | AngryElf, well, apache wouldn't really know or care what php modules are installed, what does php say is installed? |
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| [16:07:59] | AngryElf: | no idea how to check that......i just get that error when I try to access mythweb |
| [16:09:41] | AngryElf: | so, how can I check on that? |
| [16:10:27] | kormoc: | well, if mythweb says that's the case, then it's the case. That's not apache telling you |
| [16:10:38] | GreyFoxx: | Merlin83b: Are you seeing my /msgs ? |
| [16:11:07] | AngryElf: | ok, it's mythweb.php that is displaying the error |
| [16:11:38] | Merlin83b: | GreyFoxx: I am, perhaps you're not seeing mine... |
| [16:11:47] | GreyFoxx: | hmmm weird |
| [16:11:55] | kormoc: | he's not a registered user GreyFoxx |
| [16:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't have any /ignore stuff on |
| [16:12:03] | Merlin83b: | I am, let me log in... |
| [16:12:08] | GreyFoxx: | ahhh |
| [16:12:10] | kormoc: | and freenode doesn't allow any non-registered users to pm |
| [16:12:47] | Merlin83b: | Thanks kormoc. |
| [16:12:50] | Merlin83b: | Seems to be working now. |
| [16:12:52] | dev: | non registered users cant message registered users |
| [16:13:00] | dev: | non registered users can message other non registered users tho |
| [16:13:14] | Merlin83b: | -NickServ- Registered: 1 year 51 weeks 6 days (4h 48m 29s) ago |
| [16:13:21] | Merlin83b: | Ooh, two years today it would seem! |
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| [16:18:39] | AngryElf: | found it — an /etc/php5/apche2/php.ini had to bed edited |
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| [17:09:08] | xris: | interesting. livejournal just added a jabber server. |
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| [17:28:22] | scopeuk: | what you reacon guys plugin potential http://divxstation.com/article.asp?aId=151? |
| [17:28:37] | kormoc: | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13798647/ <-- Mmm... 103" hd plasma tv |
| [17:29:04] | scopeuk: | sweet |
| [17:33:55] | AngryElf: | when myth expires a recording does that get logged? it doesn't seem to be in my log....do i have to have -v all enabled for that to show up? |
| [17:34:20] | xris: | kormoc: but it's plasma. :( |
| [17:34:36] | scopeuk: | yeh still prety |
| [17:34:41] | scopeuk: | an lcd whould be nicer though |
| [17:35:05] | kormoc: | xris, true, but still, it's ungawdly huge |
| [17:36:42] | scopeuk: | thik whould fit nicly on my wall |
| [17:36:47] | scopeuk: | nwo only to make the needed $$$ |
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| [17:54:22] | Beirdo: | oooh, a dumbass |
| [17:55:53] | laga: | it's not like we don't have enough of them already. |
| [17:57:04] | scopeuk: | one dumbass reportign for duty sir |
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| [18:11:59] | gutano: | still getting this error: Channel::GetCurrentChannelNum(): Failed to find Channel '' with a recent svn, anyone have any tips where I should mess to get this working right (I can watch live tv just fine) |
| [18:12:38] | kormoc: | well, you might want to update to the most recent svn, and see if it's fixed |
| [18:13:55] | gutano: | just wasn't sure if it was possibly not a bug, but problem on my end |
| [18:14:35] | kormoc: | Yeah, but with svn stuff, usually it's good to just update and see if the problem's fixed, as svn is considered unstable, and thus bugs are introduced and fixed quite often |
| [18:17:42] | gutano: | I'm workin on mythui migration, and recently updated my branch with updates from head... without constantly merging head changes, I can't always update, heh |
| [18:17:57] | kormoc: | ahh, fair nuff |
| [18:18:04] | gutano: | but, may have to in this case |
| [18:18:37] | kormoc: | you could look over the timeline and see what's been fixed sense your checkout and see if anyhting looks like it might apply. |
| [18:19:53] | gutano: | it was about 6 wks of commits... I'm scheduled to update to head again in another wk or so *shrug* |
| [18:20:04] | gutano: | probably just leave it for now |
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| [18:23:31] | janneg: | gutano: have you channels without a channum? |
| [18:24:53] | gutano: | janneg: don't believe so... taking closer look |
| [18:26:13] | gutano: | no, they all have channel numbers associated with them |
| [18:26:53] | janneg: | ok. when do you get this error? |
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| [18:29:37] | gutano: | backend runs fine, get the error when a record is scheduled at BE console |
| [18:30:30] | Cyberai: | I'm running ubuntu dapper with myth 0.19, I've got tv and music working, but I can't get transcoding working. I even tried compiling from source. Is there a better way to get a log or verbose output about transcode behaviour then just the mythfrontend -v all command? |
| [18:31:07] | haj: | scopeuk: it says 'This episode has been recorded' |
| [18:32:33] | Juski: | Cyberai: did you set up a transcoding profile? You need to or it won't work |
| [18:32:42] | kormoc: | Cyberai, you know that internal transcoding like that will only convert video files to nuv files and keep them in myth, right? |
| [18:33:47] | janneg: | gutano: what is BE console? and the scheduled show doesn't get recorded? |
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| [18:34:18] | gutano: | backend |
| [18:34:25] | gutano: | no, just 0 size file |
| [18:34:46] | gutano: | lemme get a bigger chunk and pastebin... sec |
| [18:35:11] | Cyberai: | Juski, is that in the dvd setsup -> rip area? |
| [18:35:39] | Juski: | eh? I thought you meant recorded programme transcoding |
| [18:35:56] | janneg: | so you mean just the backen log / or messages |
| [18:36:12] | Cyberai: | Juski, I can't transcode recordings or dvd's |
| [18:36:22] | Cyberai: | no transcoding works |
| [18:36:31] | Cyberai: | so I'm trying to figure out what's going on |
| [18:36:40] | kormoc: | they're different transcodes |
| [18:36:41] | gutano: | janneg: http://pastebin.ca/84211 |
| [18:36:49] | gutano: | I'm running the backend in a console |
| [18:37:46] | Cyberai: | kormoc, what does the tv recording trancoder use rather than ffmpeg? |
| [18:37:54] | kormoc: | Cyberai, mythtranscode |
| [18:38:23] | kormoc: | Cyberai, and ffmpeg != transcode, they're two different programs that do (about) the same thing |
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| [18:38:36] | Juski: | Cyberai: to set up the recording transcoder, go into recording profiles in mythfrontend |
| [18:38:38] | Cyberai: | hmmm, why doens't it leave any messages about success/failure in the log I created via mythfrontend -v all -l <file> |
| [18:38:50] | Juski: | and for dvd transcoding to work you need to be running mtd |
| [18:38:54] | kormoc: | mythtranscode would be loged in the backend, cause the backend runs it |
| [18:39:04] | Cyberai: | aha |
| [18:39:07] | Juski: | and it's the backend which does recording transcoding |
| [18:39:23] | Cyberai: | does the backend keep a specific log? |
| [18:39:38] | kormoc: | could check /var/log/mythbackend.log or similar |
| [18:39:52] | Cyberai: | kk |
| [18:40:44] | Cyberai: | ok then, on ffmpeg, would you just adise trying to transcode at the command line using the command dictated in the mythtv dvd rip setup and then debugging from there? Or is there some way to get mythfrontend to log the error? |
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| [18:41:08] | Cyberai: | WHen I hit "rip dvd" it just says it's unable to contact the transcode daemon |
| [18:41:32] | Juski: | Cyberai: you need to be running mtd. that's the last time I'm gonna say it |
| [18:41:36] | kormoc: | right, you're not running mtd |
| [18:41:52] | Cyberai: | oh sorry |
| [18:41:54] | janneg: | gutano: might be changeset 10404 |
| [18:42:02] | Cyberai: | didnt see that earlier |
| [18:42:11] | gutano: | janneg: *goes to look at the changes* |
| [18:42:12] | gutano: | thanks |
| [18:42:19] | gutano: | I'm at 10420 |
| [18:42:46] | janneg: | best approach would be to test svn trunk |
| [18:43:58] | Cyberai: | here's another question, where would I go to set myth to use the new built in DVD player? My package for Ubuntu came set up for using mplayer |
| [18:44:32] | laga: | Cyberai: the dvd player in 0.19 doesn't support menus. still want it? :) |
| [18:44:45] | Cyberai: | darn, sure |
| [18:44:57] | laga: | umm, it's in the settings somewhere ;) |
| [18:45:12] | Cyberai: | ah yes, thak you dr. obvious |
| [18:45:23] | Juski: | the built in player is known as Internal |
| [18:45:33] | Anduin: | Cyberai: You set the player to 'Internal' |
| [18:45:42] | Cyberai: | aah |
| [18:45:44] | Cyberai: | thanks Anduin |
| [18:45:58] | Cyberai: | does it have to be a capital "I"? |
| [18:46:17] | Juski: | is linux case sensitive at all? |
| [18:46:33] | Cyberai: | well no, but sometimes applications are |
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| [18:46:51] | Juski: | linux was case sensitive last time I played with it |
| [18:46:52] | Anduin: | Cyberai: There is one path that will accept either, one where it matters, so use the one I gave you. |
| [18:47:21] | Cyberai: | okey dokey |
| [18:47:39] | Cyberai: | now, is that player just an mplayer deriviative, or is it new code? |
| [18:47:54] | kormoc: | it's build off of libavcodec |
| [18:48:01] | kormoc: | *built |
| [18:48:06] | speedsix: | Howdy folks, can anyone explain why my Mythweb errors with "Unable to connect to the master backend at 10.0.0.4:6543. Is it running?" Ip address is correct and the backend is running. |
| [18:48:06] | Cyberai: | k |
| [18:48:11] | kormoc: | which also helps power ffmpeg/mplayer/etc |
| [18:48:27] | kormoc: | but it's not a mplayer deriviative |
| [18:48:30] | Anduin: | Cyberai: for .19 xine is a nice player. |
| [18:49:22] | Cyberai: | Anduin, I agree, but I'm having prolems with external applications getting access to the sound device in Ubuntu Dapper. |
| [18:49:23] | Juski: | speedsix: yeh. you've not RTFM |
| [18:49:35] | Cyberai: | Anduin, so I get a great video experience, no sound |
| [18:50:01] | speedsix: | Juski I've re-read TFM several times :) |
| [18:50:06] | kormoc: | Cyberai, invenst in a sound blaster that's supported by alsa with hardware mixing and your sound issues will disappear |
| [18:50:13] | Anduin: | Cyberai: Only watch movies that are in a language you don't understand. Problems are so easy to solve. |
| [18:50:16] | Cyberai: | kormoc, I suspected that |
| [18:50:55] | Juski: | speedsix: is your apache bound to a local IP? I think that if it's not you might have to fiddle with /etc/my.cnf to allow connections from outside the machine... I did anyway |
| [18:51:01] | Cyberai: | I have several proposed solutions off of the Ubuntu sound fix howto I am going to try tonight |
| [18:51:12] | sigger: | speedsix: you turn off skipnetworking in my.cnf? |
| [18:51:24] | kormoc: | Cyberai, the one to look at would be to setup dmix, dmix is alsa's software mixing engine |
| [18:52:29] | speedsix: | If I add the AllowOverride to the apache config, Apache comes up with an internal server error every time you view the page. The only way I have found round this is to add the code in .htaccess entirely into the apache config. It gets further but complains it can't find the backend (it's obviously connecting to the db to read this) |
| [18:52:37] | Cyberai: | yeah, I've seen a lot about working on this with alsamixer too |
| [18:53:04] | speedsix: | I've edited the my.conf but mythweb is accessing it from the localhost anyway |
| [18:53:34] | Juski: | speedsix: now restart mysql |
| [18:54:03] | speedsix: | but it's connecting to mysql fine, it just can't access the backend? |
| [18:54:33] | speedsix: | backend is up, frontend connects fine |
| [18:54:44] | sigger: | speedsix: you have mysql server running on front end by any chance? |
| [18:54:51] | Cyberai: | Anduin, the other problem I have with Xine, is that it's a real devil to configure to work well with my grey hauppage remote through LIRC. Ironically it just has too MANY features that are mapped to keys. It's hard to get them all sorted out and mapped nicely to buttons on the remote that makes sense. I also have a problem with XINE returning me to the desktop and not mythfrontend. |
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| [18:55:29] | Juski: | Cyberai: just map the most likely keys you're gonna need then. |
| [18:55:34] | Anduin: | Cyberai: That last problem is usually caused by no wm |
| [18:55:40] | xris: | speedsix: for the allowoverride stuff: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . thweb/README |
| [18:56:08] | Juski: | time for a massive tidy-up |
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| [18:56:56] | Cyberai: | Juski, yeah, I have something that works OK, but I'm just not happy with it |
| [18:57:08] | speedsix: | I've basically redone my backend from Knoppmyth to Ubuntu.. |
| [18:58:17] | Cyberai: | Juski, it's the problem of not being able to use the same buttons in the menus as you do in the movie. So I can't set up the right arrow to be " go to object right" in the menus and then mean "fast forward" in the movie. |
| [18:58:22] | speedsix: | sigger, only a mysql client on the frontend. |
| [18:58:54] | Cyberai: | Juski, I'm trying to make this as "girlfriend friendly" as possible, and she is a MAJOR luddite |
| [18:59:15] | speedsix: | xris, if I add those lines to /etc/apache2/apache2.conf apache throws up an internal server error, very odd |
| [18:59:34] | speedsix: | worked fine on my old backend |
| [18:59:50] | xris: | speedsix: I generally put an includefile in, but yeah, that's really strange |
| [18:59:59] | Juski: | Cyberai: heh. my wife finds the WAF very high on my setup |
| [19:00:16] | Juski: | rule #1 about interfaces.. put yourself in their shoes |
| [19:00:35] | Anduin: | ouch |
| [19:00:44] | Juski: | but don't let her see you – could be kinda weird :-P |
| [19:00:44] | xris: | Juski: or a more fun way to say it, "you are not the user" |
| [19:00:55] | speedsix: | xris, I copied the entire .htaccess into the apache2.conf and mythweb can't connect to the backend. |
| [19:01:16] | xris: | speedsix: user/pass correct? |
| [19:01:17] | Cyberai: | Juski, "WAF"? |
| [19:01:26] | Cyberai: | Wife Access Friendly? |
| [19:01:37] | Juski: | Cyberai: wife acceptance factor |
| [19:01:40] | Cyberai: | aha |
| [19:01:50] | Juski: | 1. "you're not putting a fscking computer in the livingroom!!!!!!!!!" |
| [19:01:52] | Cyberai: | what do you use for a remote? |
| [19:01:56] | Juski: | 2. "Oh... " |
| [19:02:06] | Juski: | One For All 6 |
| [19:02:18] | xris: | speedsix: SELECT * FROM settings WHERE value "MasterServerIP"; |
| [19:02:21] | Juski: | press TV & it's the TV remote.. press VCR & it's the myth remote :-) |
| [19:02:23] | xris: | er, SELECT * FROM settings WHERE value = "MasterServerIP"; |
| [19:02:37] | speedsix: | xris, hmm my backend can't ping it's own i.p address |
| [19:02:44] | Juski: | press AUDIO & it's the receiver remote,SAT & it's the cable box remote.. peasy |
| [19:02:46] | Cyberai: | Juski, does that use LIRC? |
| [19:02:49] | xris: | speedsix: firewall, selinux, etc? |
| [19:03:03] | Juski: | Cyberai: yeh. with my own homebrew serial port receiver |
| [19:03:11] | speedsix: | had a few network problems recently, will have a poke around, brb |
| [19:03:45] | Cyberai: | so how do you have XINE configured in your .lircrc? |
| [19:03:55] | Cyberai: | Juski, so how do you have XINE configured in your .lircrc? |
| [19:04:21] | Juski: | Cyberai: gimme 5 I'll pastebin it |
| [19:04:28] | Cyberai: | Juski, SWEET |
| [19:05:32] | speedsix: | why would my backend machine be unable to access it's own i.p?? No firewall afaik |
| [19:06:00] | Juski: | damn slow pastebin |
| [19:06:44] | Juski: | http://pastebin.ca/84232 – ca is much better :-) |
| [19:06:49] | Cyberai: | speedsix, double check your hostname. I had that problem because I gave my machine the hostname "MythBox" and everything was looking for localhost. |
| [19:06:52] | Beirdo: | always |
| [19:06:53] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [19:08:52] | speedsix: | Cyberai, stupid question, any idea where the host name is set? Only have ssh access |
| [19:09:13] | Cyberai: | speedsix, what distro? |
| [19:09:18] | speedsix: | ubuntu |
| [19:09:55] | speedsix: | seems to be /etc/hostname but it's correct |
| [19:10:09] | Cyberai: | speedsix, disconnect, reconnect using ssh -X, then run "gksu network-admin" |
| [19:10:55] | Cyberai: | speedsix, you'll get the gui netowrk configurator, set the hostname in the hosts tab and it will take care of the details for you |
| [19:11:03] | speedsix: | ok thanks.. |
| [19:11:15] | Cyberai: | speedsix, correcdtion, run "sudo gksu network-admin" |
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| [19:14:30] | otwin: | speedsix: and have a look at /etc/hosts |
| [19:16:11] | ** Juski wonders what all the fuss is about doing sudo ku ** | |
| [19:17:59] | speedsix: | otwin, what should I be looking for in the hosts file? |
| [19:19:20] | otwin: | add line with 'ip hostname' if it's not there |
| [19:19:41] | Cyberai: | speedsix, you should be looking for an entry that looks like "127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost" |
| [19:19:56] | Cyberai: | if it's not there add it |
| [19:20:28] | speedsix: | I have.. 127.0.0.1 localhost mythtv |
| [19:20:39] | speedsix: | did have a problem with the host file though so it may be wrong? |
| [19:21:10] | otwin: | add 10.0.0.4 mythtv – if that is your hostname |
| [19:21:15] | Cyberai: | speedsix, change that line to what I had in the quotes above and reboot |
| [19:21:23] | speedsix: | ok |
| [19:21:42] | otwin: | usually no need to reboot |
| [19:24:08] | gutano: | anyone know where the dv1394 is located in the kernel menus? |
| [19:24:32] | gutano: | kernel menuconfig |
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| [19:30:44] | janneg: | gutano: iirc device drivers -> firewire i1394 |
| [19:31:42] | gutano: | just got a digital cable box today.... comcast dct-6200 =D |
| [19:31:46] | gutano: | hope I can get it workin |
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| [19:42:03] | speedsix: | well i've completely messed it up now, everytime I type sudo it says 'unable to lookup mythtv via gethostbyname()'!! :`( |
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| [19:45:42] | otwin: | speedsix: what does the command 'hostname' give? |
| [19:46:35] | speedsix: | I'm rebooting in recovery mode to fix my hosts file... brb |
| [19:46:54] | firebird619: | Each time I try to run Mythtv it says mythbackendSession management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed. What can I do to fix this problem. |
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| [19:51:43] | nomego_: | are there any plans on incorporating last.fm support in MythMusic? |
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| [19:51:59] | Juski: | not as far as I know |
| [19:52:09] | Juski: | there are plans to make mythmusic not suck though ;-) |
| [19:52:39] | MarcN: | Juski: any idea what the summer of code folks will be working on? |
| [19:53:02] | Juski: | MarcN: it's all detailed on mythtv.org, and probably the wiki |
| [19:53:19] | Juski: | windows port, mythweb improvements, ui rewrite.. mythmusic... |
| [19:53:36] | ** xris grumbles about no mythexport ** | |
| [19:53:42] | MarcN: | Juski: so everything ;-) Just got most of myth working only last night... |
| [19:53:47] | Juski: | there's even a status page somewhere |
| [19:54:07] | Juski: | xris: ah was that the student who dropped out? sucky |
| [19:54:41] | xris: | yeah |
| [19:54:59] | xris: | I still get paid, though. :) but would rather have a mythexport |
| [19:56:02] | Juski: | so long as there aren't any more dropping-out happennings :-) |
| [19:56:20] | laga: | firebird619: ignore it, it's usually not a real problem |
| [19:56:21] | xris: | won't be for mythwe |
| [19:56:23] | xris: | mythweb |
| [19:57:16] | Juski: | excellent :) |
| [19:57:25] | firebird619: | laga: I can't get into mythtv though to actually use it. When I enter mythtv at the command prompt it comes up and asks for database name, username, password, etc. and thats all I get. |
| [19:57:48] | laga: | firebird619: well, yes. rumours are that you need to enter the database name, username and password. |
| [19:58:22] | Juski: | some people even claim it's advantageous to run mythbackend at the same time |
| [19:58:33] | firebird619: | laga: What do I put though for that information? |
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| [19:59:07] | laga: | firebird619: what distro? gentoo? |
| [19:59:12] | xris: | firebird619: the same info you used to originally configure it. |
| [19:59:18] | firebird619: | laga: Ubuntu |
| [19:59:29] | laga: | firebird619: ah. installed from the packages? |
| [19:59:31] | janneg: | and mythtv isn't a very interesting application. try mythfrontend |
| [19:59:44] | firebird619: | laga: installed from Synaptic. |
| [20:00:03] | Juski: | oo so that'll be like nice & shiny out-of-date mythtv. nice |
| [20:00:13] | ** xris wishes that someone would actually produce .19 packages for ubuntu ** | |
| [20:00:17] | laga: | firebird619: yep. |
| [20:00:19] | laga: | xris: there are. |
| [20:00:21] | laga: | for dapper: |
| [20:00:26] | xris: | laga: where? |
| [20:00:29] | xris: | ahh |
| [20:00:34] | laga: | |
| [20:00:44] | laga: | including the kalweit fix and the eitcache patch. |
| [20:01:18] | kormoc: | laga, well, it would be nice if it was just standard :) |
| [20:01:19] | laga: | firebird619: i'd suggest that you upgrade to 0.19. the information you're looking for is in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt BTW |
| [20:01:26] | laga: | kormoc: go bug the ubuntu people :) |
| [20:01:48] | laga: | but i don't mind third-party repos in that case, i trust that guy. which doesn't prevent me from rolling my own packages. |
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| [20:02:34] | firebird619: | laga: Where do I get 0.19. I have 0.18 installed now. |
| [20:03:08] | firebird619: | laga: Should the install originally have asked me what to use as username, password, etc? |
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| [20:04:01] | MarcN: | I followed http://hyams.webhop.net/mythtv/myth_ubuntu.html notes which worked well for Ubuntu/Dapper, albeit for .18. I see a build from source in my future though... |
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| [20:07:40] | xris: | firebird619: generally, username and pw are both set to mythtv |
| [20:08:58] | firebird619: | xris: I have tried that, but when I enter mythtv it says now Database error was: Access Denied for User 'mythtv'@' localhost' (using password: YES) |
| [20:09:25] | firebird619: | xris: that same message is repeated several times in terminal |
| [20:10:03] | Juski: | that probably means there's no mysql user called mythtv, or that mythtv doesn't have privileges to access the db |
| [20:11:05] | Juski: | follow a howto... I once googled for mythtv ubuntu & I came up with the first hit which turned out to be very useful... www.abarbaccia.com... very useful for 0.18 indeed |
| [20:11:05] | firebird619: | Juski: What do I have to do to create that user or whatever I have to do. When I installed MythTV from Synaptic it never asked to set up a user, password, etc. |
| [20:11:24] | Juski: | all the ubuntu howtos say to use apt-get, not synaptic |
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| [20:12:11] | Juski: | remove it and get the hamsta deb laga posted a link to earlier |
| [20:13:19] | firebird619: | What advantage does 0.19 have over 0.18, will 0.19 solve my problem. I have dial-up and don't really want to download large files if they aren't going to help me out. |
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| [20:13:48] | Juski: | firebird619: look at abarbaccia.com for tips on how to install 0.18 properly |
| [20:14:02] | Juski: | 0.19 is much improved over 0.18 in most cases though |
| [20:15:15] | firebird619: | Juski: How large of a file is it for download? |
| [20:15:29] | xris: | MarcN: if you're going to compile, make sure you use .19-fixes from svn |
| [20:15:43] | MarcN: | xris: thanks for the tip. |
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| [20:16:31] | Juski: | firebird619: not that big, but you've prolly got most of its dependencies already |
| [20:17:24] | Juski: | phew. thought I'd borked by umbongo box for a second there. I'd only left a cd in it |
| [20:17:37] | firebird619: | Juski: Ok. Thank you. |
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| [20:18:23] | firebird619: | Thank you as well laga and xris and everyone else who helped me. |
| [20:19:10] | hext: | hello all |
| [20:20:24] | ** xris ponders what to do with his new ipod (whenever it shows up) ** | |
| [20:20:41] | xris: | ipod-sized tv just doesn't sound that appealing |
| [20:21:06] | Beirdo: | be good if you commuted by train every day like my boss back in Toronto |
| [20:21:12] | Beirdo: | he uses a PSP for that :) |
| [20:21:48] | xris: | heh |
| [20:22:01] | xris: | yeah. my soon-to-be crappy commute will have to be by car. |
| [20:22:05] | xris: | can't even carpool because of my hours |
| [20:22:26] | Beirdo: | sucky |
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| [20:23:24] | hext: | anyone able to guide me to enlightenment uk ITV (mheg) and svn? |
| [20:25:39] | ** Beirdo tries to remember how to go stereo->mono in audacity ** | |
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| [20:32:21] | Beirdo: | think I got it. I just split the stereo track (as both channels are identical), then save only the left |
| [20:32:50] | gutano: | hrrrm... FireWire support seems to be disabled by default, but the only configure option I can find for it is --disable-firewire |
| [20:33:16] | gutano: | does the configure script check for the presence of something to enable firewire by default? |
| [20:34:09] | sphery: | yp |
| [20:34:11] | sphery: | yep |
| [20:34:35] | gutano: | do I need to use modules as opposed to kernel builtin? |
| [20:34:55] | sphery: | I think you just have to have the right libraries and their headers installed. |
| [20:35:02] | gutano: | ahh |
| [20:35:06] | sphery: | look in configure |
| [20:35:07] | gutano: | I just included kernel options so far |
| [20:35:13] | sphery: | It shows the list of the required libs |
| [20:35:33] | sphery: | look for has_library and has_header calls around firewire |
| [20:35:55] | xris: | gutano: means you need to have the firewire development libraries installed |
| [20:36:07] | ** gutano nods ** | |
| [20:36:08] | gutano: | thanks guys |
| [20:36:16] | xris: | gutano: look at the rpm requirements at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Mythtv-svn-rpmbuild.spec |
| [20:36:46] | Juski: | hext: enable interactive TV in mythfrontend.. settings > tv > playback |
| [20:36:52] | sphery: | libiec61883 & libavc1394 |
| [20:38:03] | gutano: | hrrrm... libiec61883..... |
| [20:38:13] | gutano: | =D all found |
| [20:38:16] | gutano: | installing |
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| [20:40:00] | gutano: | FireWire support yes |
| [20:40:01] | gutano: | woot |
| [20:40:13] | sphery: | enjoy |
| [20:40:33] | sphery: | seems libiec61883 is always the one that's missing |
| [20:40:36] | sphery: | :) |
| [20:40:56] | gutano: | I didn't have any installed.... first time I've enabled my firewire port on my MB |
| [20:42:21] | hext: | Juski: it works!!! thanks.....so obvious |
| [20:42:53] | Juski: | hext: not so obvious, I think ;-) no problem |
| [20:42:59] | hext: | Juski: had been checking keybindings, recording profiles..... |
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| [20:44:30] | hext: | Juski: shame I never asked before wimbledon and world cup finished |
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| [20:47:00] | Juski: | hext: heheh. you can still access the extra streams on 701–705 |
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| [20:57:01] | Juski: | downloading the systm videos _again_... |
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| [20:57:12] | hext: | Juski: thats what I had to use on my 0.19 production box ... |
| [20:57:18] | Juski: | I'll try not to have to reinstall this time... |
| [20:57:46] | hext: | Juski: dare not damage the WAF with svn on that |
| [20:57:58] | Juski: | hext: if you're anywhere near wolverhampton in a couple of weekends time why not pay a visit to lugradiolive? gonna be exhibiting mythtv there |
| [20:58:09] | Juski: | hext: I know what you mean |
| [20:58:59] | ** Juski wonders if there's any chance my mythtv stand could get a plug on the main mythtv.org page... ** | |
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| [20:59:20] | Juski: | I know.. the cheek of it ;-) |
| [21:00:04] | ** xris wonders if there's a trade show in seattle where he could exhibit mythtv.... ** | |
| [21:00:23] | ** xris just wants to go to a trade show ** | |
| [21:00:24] | Juski: | I think it needs to get out there more |
| [21:01:09] | Juski: | be cool to be sponsored to be at a home entertainment show ;-) |
| [21:01:18] | Juski: | rather than just something linuxy |
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| [21:06:23] | ** hext is checking out the lugradiolive site ** | |
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| [21:08:07] | geemark: | when I try to compile mythtv on Debian, and it complaints about LAME, what package should I install? |
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| [21:09:17] | Juski: | liblame-dev ? |
| [21:09:34] | Juski: | or just grab build-dep mythtv |
| [21:12:00] | geemark: | Juski: build-dep? |
| [21:13:37] | Juski: | build dependencies |
| [21:14:06] | Juski: | apt-get build-dep mythtv |
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| [22:28:08] | ezeki3l: | is MSI MX4000-T64 Geforce MX4000 enough for video playback? |
| [22:28:16] | ezeki3l: | is it enough for HD playback? |
| [22:29:59] | kormoc: | HD no |
| [22:30:01] | kormoc: | SD yes |
| [22:30:27] | ezeki3l: | would Geforce 6200 be enough for HD playback? |
| [22:30:33] | kormoc: | Yes, it is |
| [22:30:44] | ezeki3l: | what's the vidcard requirment for HD? |
| [22:30:54] | ezeki3l: | given that it's nvidia chipset |
| [22:31:11] | kormoc: | I've done 1080i with a 5200 fine, but a 6200 was great |
| [22:31:21] | ezeki3l: | ah |
| [22:31:22] | ezeki3l: | mmmk |
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| [22:37:17] | scopeuk: | 5200 is baselien myth card realy isent it |
| [22:38:43] | geemark: | Can anyone help me with this, please? "error while loading shared libraries: libmythtv-0.19.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" |
| [22:39:06] | scopeuk: | well is the file preasent? |
| [22:40:03] | geemark: | it is in /usr/local/lib |
| [22:40:42] | geemark: | is that the corrent location? |
| [22:40:50] | Anduin: | geemark: and /usr/local/lib is searched? and ldconfig ran? |
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| [22:41:57] | metalac: | anyone knows where test-mpeg2 is? i can't find it on my machine |
| [22:42:01] | geemark: | hmm, ldconfig is not installed it seems |
| [22:42:03] | metalac: | what package does it come with? |
| [22:42:10] | geemark: | might explain it :D |
| [22:42:26] | Anduin: | geemark: You are root? |
| [22:42:41] | geemark: | which package is ldconfig in usually? (using debian) |
| [22:42:45] | geemark: | Anduin: yep |
| [22:43:08] | Anduin: | geemark: root root or su no – root? |
| [22:43:38] | geemark: | su'ed to root |
| [22:44:03] | Anduin: | geemark: try an explicit /sbin/ldconfig |
| [22:45:07] | geemark: | Anduin: didn't help |
| [22:45:24] | geemark: | how do I check if that folder is checked? |
| [22:45:35] | Anduin: | geemark: /etc/ld.so.conf |
| [22:45:37] | kormoc: | echo $PATH |
| [22:45:40] | kormoc: | ooh |
| [22:45:53] | kormoc: | ldconfig -v would help too |
| [22:46:01] | kormoc: | ldconfig is part of glibc btw |
| [22:46:26] | Anduin: | Yeah, pretty unpossible for it not to be there |
| [22:46:29] | geemark: | ldconfig -v | grep myth yields nothing |
| [22:47:23] | geemark: | ok, added it to the config file, now it runs :D |
| [22:47:25] | geemark: | thanks guys |
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| [23:08:39] | AngryElf: | is there anyway to remove a plugin? |
| [23:13:26] | metalac: | so i got firewire sort of working |
| [23:13:29] | metalac: | but i can scan for channels |
| [23:13:44] | metalac: | i mean I can but it keeps scaning from /dev/v4l/video0 device |
| [23:13:56] | metalac: | not the firewire device, thus I can't get channels greater than 99 |
| [23:14:05] | metalac: | which is what i want since all those are HD |
| [23:17:18] | AngryElf: | other than /usr/local/bin where does stuff get installed to when compiling manually? |
| [23:17:53] | AngryElf: | ls |
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| [23:19:44] | gutano: | do I need to worry about my database if I revert from an svn build to .19-fixes? |
| [23:20:16] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [23:20:30] | GreyFoxx: | the structure is different |
| [23:20:44] | GreyFoxx: | not massively, but still different |
| [23:20:52] | janneg: | yeah, back it up and it probaly won't work |
| [23:20:57] | ** gutano nods I don't have alot of recordings on my dev box, but I have a few.... *debates just dropping them* ** | |
| [23:22:13] | Juski: | gutano: don't worry about losing your recordings.. just use nuvexport to copy the recordings & the sql you need to re-import em later |
| [23:23:15] | gutano: | Juski: I think I'm gonna try a slightly earlier svn for the time being (only about 20 commits or so) |
| [23:23:26] | Juski: | then just copy em back (or not).. then run mythcommflag on all of them to rebuild the recordedmarkup table entries |
| [23:24:33] | gutano: | so nuvexport provides the sql to re-import? |
| [23:25:08] | metalac: | How am i supposed to add channels when using Firewire connection to my cable box? |
| [23:25:22] | metalac: | i tried to scan, but that seems to work with only analog cards |
| [23:25:22] | gutano: | metalac: I think with the guide source |
| [23:25:26] | metalac: | any clue? |
| [23:25:37] | gutano: | button just right of the scan |
| [23:25:38] | metalac: | I tried that but it seems to freezes |
| [23:25:42] | gutano: | hrrmrmm |
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| [23:26:31] | metalac: | acctually I think it's doing something :) |
| [23:26:44] | metalac: | mythfilldataase is taking up around 80% CPU |
| [23:27:05] | gutano: | it will hiccup, but mine has never _frozen_ there |
| [23:27:13] | hadees: | So my xorg keeps locking up when running MythTV, a while ago I had the same problem and Chutt told me how to fix it but because of a hard disk failure I had to reinstall but I can't remember what I did to fix it. I do remember having to disable opengl and I did that but it didn't fix it and I know there was more. |
| [23:27:22] | metalac: | gutano: how long do you have to wait for it? |
| [23:27:39] | gutano: | metalac: 5–10 seconds |
| [23:27:56] | metalac: | gutano: this is taking a bit longer for sure |
| [23:28:00] | gutano: | =/ |
| [23:28:11] | gutano: | could be saturated or slow i-net connection? |
| [23:28:25] | metalac: | yeah i'll just let it do it's thing for a half hour or so |
| [23:28:31] | metalac: | and see what happens |
| [23:28:51] | metalac: | acctually what's the command to have mythtv-setup run in a "window" mode |
| [23:29:15] | hadees: | metalac, you could always just use alt-tab |
| [23:29:30] | metalac: | hadees: not with simple X |
| [23:29:48] | hadees: | ah, you should have something like fluxbox running |
| [23:30:05] | hadees: | you will run into other issues just using X |
| [23:30:31] | metalac: | hadees: well i do have evilWM, but i'm doing testing right now |
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| [23:31:05] | hadees: | if I remember correctly just using X can cause some focus problems if you want to use things like mythvideo |
| [23:31:17] | metalac: | i got it |
| [23:31:23] | metalac: | just needed to hook up a mouse :) |
| [23:31:53] | metalac: | ok so it is downloading stuff |
| [23:31:56] | metalac: | just taking a long time |
| [23:32:14] | hadees: | i wish someone could remember how to fix my problem, this is driving me crazy, more so because i know there is a fix that I did but forgot |
| [23:32:20] | hadees: | damn hard disk |
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| [23:35:40] | GreyFoxx: | hadees: Nvidia card ? |
| [23:36:02] | hadees: | GreyFoxx, yeah |
| [23:36:32] | GreyFoxx: | try adding the following to your X config in the section defining the card |
| [23:36:32] | GreyFoxx: | Option "RenderAccel" "Off" |
| [23:36:33] | GreyFoxx: | Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "Off" |
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| [23:36:57] | hadees: | GreyFoxx, thanks |
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