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Tuesday, May 30th, 2006, 00:00 UTC
[00:00:11] SpicyChronos: ah ha. let me try setting a freq by hand...
[00:00:17] Cardoe: Juski: alright. is that 10056 from 0.19-fixes? or head?
[00:00:24] Juski: Cardoe: head
[00:00:46] Cardoe: Juski: alright.
[00:00:59] Cardoe: I'm gonna make a 0.20_pre pkg and a 0.19.1_pre
[00:02:38] Juski: cool
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[00:04:13] Juski: psofa will thank you for that I expect :)
[00:05:45] Juski: as will I when I revert to a more geek friendly distro for the demo box
[00:06:00] psofa: not if i first kill myself trying to do it myself
[00:06:01] psofa: :D
[00:09:04] SpicyChronos: no luck. still getting a static screen
[00:09:15] SpicyChronos: used ivtv-tune -f95.00
[00:09:21] SpicyChronos: etc.. and still static
[00:10:59] Juski: SpicyChronos: to be honest the most important thing is that you get a watchable stream – if only using the direct video input
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[00:11:14] Juski: step onwards & see if myth can cope with the tuning
[00:13:31] Darthy: why cant i start with /etc/init.d/mythbackend start as root ? the log tells me something about strange mysql errors.. when i start directly as user mythtv – it works
[00:13:49] SpicyChronos: well s-video input works, just gotta figure out the frequencies.
[00:14:49] Juski: Darthy: do you have a /root/.mythtv/mysql.txt file?
[00:15:21] dscoular: Darthy, try: strace -e open mythbackend to see what files it's looking in for your mysql connection details
[00:15:45] VlivE: how could I adjust the color?
[00:15:54] VlivE: I get a green out effact
[00:16:22] SpicyChronos: one other problem. how do I set the video output to TV-OUT on my Radeon 9000 card, and get a stable picture. Right now if I turn on my TV, I get a garbled screen.
[00:17:12] VlivE: Juski> Darthy: do you have a /root/.mythtv/mysql.txt file::: I deleted mine how can I get it back?
[00:17:30] VlivE: cause I can't start it either unless I start the backend first separatedly
[00:18:20] Juski: you deleted it? how the fuck did you manage that by accident?
[00:19:01] Juski: http://pastebin.com/745932
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[00:19:50] VlivE: don't worry how but how can i fix/restore
[00:20:19] VlivE: can i?
[00:21:17] VlivE: and how can I fix the color all channels are too blue
[00:21:24] VlivE: to much blue
[00:22:15] Juski: sounds like the hue control
[00:22:21] VlivE: SpicyChronos> I have a ati radeon x1600 and its working dvi to hdmi
[00:22:27] Juski: get a proper TV standard. ntsc sucks :-P
[00:22:41] VlivE: where do I adjust that?
[00:22:52] VlivE: in myth?
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[00:24:57] SpicyChronos: I don't have a high end tv. I just want to use tv-out through composite
[00:25:29] psofa: what is xvmc-opengl ?
[00:25:48] psofa: is it better than the normal xvmc?
[00:27:48] Juski: xvmc using opengl textures... dunno why it'd be better
[00:28:13] dscoular: VlivE, just copy the one for your mythtv user, that you said was working to /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt
[00:28:43] dscoular: VlivE, that will make it global for all users without one in ~/.mythtv/
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[00:29:29] Juski: d'oh I forgot about that one
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[00:32:59] psofa: btw is 0.20 close enough?
[00:34:20] Juski: eh? close to release? not likely
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[00:36:34] Darthy: @Juski thanx.. that was it!
[00:36:50] Darthy: but now i got the next prob
[00:38:07] Darthy: i have dvb-s and just a blackscreen.. signal 94%.. and hes capuring a lot a data.. but no picture.. im not sure if the recordings are true mpeg streams.. could it be a prob with my hauppauge se 2, s plus ?
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[00:40:37] psofa: hey Juski arent you the one trying a diskless myth setup?
[00:40:52] Juski: psofa: trying? using, more like
[00:41:01] Juski: minimyth
[00:41:07] psofa: :)
[00:41:12] psofa: is it ok?
[00:41:29] psofa: booting off ethernet or cdrom?
[00:42:19] Juski: ethernet – and it's brilliant
[00:42:31] psofa: wow
[00:42:33] dscoular: the joy of pxelinux
[00:42:44] psofa: and how much time does it need to boot of ethernet?
[00:43:27] Juski: not very much slower (if any) than a HDD boot
[00:43:41] psofa: sounds cool
[00:43:47] psofa: oh noes
[00:43:49] Juski: I can go from powered down to watching a show in < 60 secs
[00:43:57] psofa: my 300euro are gonna fly away
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[00:44:36] Goose: Hello everyone
[00:45:16] Goose: I recently upgraded from an MX4000 card for an FX5500 card. When I enable XVMC for playback my OSD goes grey, is this normal?
[00:46:36] Darthy: does anyone have a nice sorted channels.conf for german sat (astra) ? ich hab voll kein bock zu sortieren..
[00:46:47] Juski: see the wiki page about xvmc – look for chromakey OSD ;-)
[00:47:44] Goose: berido.ca/wiki?
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[00:51:58] Juski: Goose: www.mythtv.org/wiki/
[00:52:21] Goose: TY
[00:53:14] Juski: Goose: greyscale (monochrome) OSD is a side effect of using xvmc, but the chromakey OSD trick brings back the colour. I can confirm it works :-)
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[00:59:06] Goose: Will I see a big playback quality win with xvmc?
[00:59:23] Goose: I was not running it before on my MX4000 but when I played back DVDs I occasionally had blur
[00:59:34] Juski: not especially, but it'll lighten the cpu load
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[01:00:41] psofa: Juski, how much does an epia board cost?
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[01:01:00] Goose: Ok, thanks, I won't bother with it, I have a 2.4Ghz chip in there, I htink I can spare the cycles
[01:02:01] Juski: psofa: depends what spec you want. mine cost about £100
[01:02:26] psofa: and it has a cpu/mem on it?
[01:02:54] psofa: how much is that in euros?
[01:02:57] Juski: it has: cpu, vga, ethernet, audio, firewire, usb2, serial, digital audio
[01:03:06] psofa: euros?
[01:03:12] Juski: dunno
[01:03:18] Juski: guess about 160
[01:03:59] psofa: 145
[01:04:04] psofa: wow
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[01:04:24] psofa: how many mhz?
[01:04:30] Juski: 1ghz
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[01:04:42] psofa: is it ok for dvb?
[01:04:50] Juski: oh it also has onboard mpeg2 acceleration too, so decoding dvb mpeg2 takes about 15% cpu
[01:05:12] psofa: can it be used for hdtv also?
[01:05:42] Juski: nope
[01:05:47] psofa: :(
[01:05:59] Juski: it can do 720p though
[01:06:14] psofa: decently?
[01:06:28] Juski: psofa: come on – 1ghz cpu decoding 1080 hdtv???
[01:06:36] Juski: seemed pretty decent
[01:06:57] psofa: :D
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[01:08:00] MonMotha: I did 1080i with a GF4MX on a 1GHz P3. It skipped about once every 10 seconds. Pretty good for not having the iDCT accelerated
[01:08:35] Juski: yes but the via xvmc thing can't cope with 1080 AFAIK
[01:08:35] psofa: bleh i cant wait for myth to compile im going to bed :P
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[01:09:25] MonMotha: Juski: 1080p?
[01:09:39] Juski: nope
[01:09:48] MonMotha: I know my FX5600 Ultra can do 1080i just fine
[01:10:13] MonMotha: and with a bob deinterlace, that should upconvert to 1080p directly
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[01:10:33] MonMotha: just duplicate every line in each field to create a 1080p progressive frame at 60Hz
[01:10:41] MonMotha: which is how bob works
[01:10:45] Juski: definitely won't have enough cpu left to deinterlace 1080 at the same time IMHO
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[01:10:46] MonMotha: I believe
[01:10:55] MonMotha: oh, I wasn't doing a deinterlace on that machine
[01:10:59] MonMotha: I ran the monitor at 1080i :)
[01:11:39] MonMotha: w/ XvMC on a 5600 Ultra, my 2GHz AthlonXP can do 1080i or 720p w/ ~60% CPU time used
[01:11:49] MonMotha: w/o XvMC, 720p is fine, but 1080i skips
[01:12:02] Juski: 1080 video is huge
[01:12:06] Juski: 1920x1080
[01:12:46] MonMotha: yeah, though if it's interlaced you only have 1920x540 60 times/sec, 1080p would be much harder
[01:13:12] MonMotha: the issue is if it's a CPU time issue or a bandwidth to the video card issue
[01:13:30] MonMotha: with 1080i, I seem to run into both problems at about the same time with this machine unless I use XvMC
[01:13:57] MonMotha: I don't have any 1080p content (no US broadcaster is running 16VSB, so they don't have the bandwidth for it)
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[01:16:10] MonMotha: now to start archiving shows in h.264, only SD for that though...
[01:16:19] MonMotha: no chance in hell my system can do HD h.264 decoding :)
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[01:29:26] SlicerDicer-: hey xris you here?
[01:29:31] SlicerDicer-: or you off for memorial day :)
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[01:32:09] MonMotha: mmmm 2 Fast 2 Furious in HD
[01:32:44] SlicerDicer-: that movie is terrible heh
[01:32:50] SlicerDicer-: loaded with rice buners :)
[01:32:53] SlicerDicer-: burners rather
[01:34:36] Juski: is it a film about gentoo?
[01:34:38] ** Juski hides **
[01:35:51] SlicerDicer-: lol
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[01:36:59] MonMotha: SlicerDicer: indeed, it's pretty bad
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[01:37:01] MonMotha: but it's in HD
[01:37:02] MonMotha: :)
[01:37:13] SlicerDicer-: why not get something good in HD
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[01:37:16] SlicerDicer-: like batman begins
[01:37:22] MonMotha: SlicerDicer: is that being shown right now?
[01:37:29] SlicerDicer-: it was yesterday
[01:37:34] SlicerDicer-: and it will be tomorrow I think
[01:37:39] MonMotha: I didn't have my stuff set up yesterday
[01:37:42] SlicerDicer-: hehe
[01:37:45] MonMotha: I had to fix a couple bugs in Myth to get this working
[01:38:07] SlicerDicer-: june 1st
[01:38:11] SlicerDicer-: batman begins
[01:38:17] SlicerDicer-: 330 PM PST
[01:38:44] MonMotha: what network?
[01:38:50] SlicerDicer-: HBO
[01:38:51] SlicerDicer-: 2 hrs 30 mins 11 GB
[01:38:57] MonMotha: that's encrypted
[01:38:58] SlicerDicer-: its large
[01:39:01] MonMotha: I can only do unencrypted cable
[01:39:04] ** SlicerDicer- looks around **
[01:39:05] SlicerDicer-: it is?
[01:39:14] MonMotha: certainly is on my cable network
[01:39:23] SlicerDicer-: ahh roadrunner :/
[01:39:27] MonMotha: and unless you've got opencable broken (which wouldn't surprise me, I guess)...
[01:39:43] MonMotha: what cable company doesn't encrypt their premium chans?
[01:39:52] SlicerDicer-: Comcast
[01:39:57] SlicerDicer-: xris is not encrypted either
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[01:40:12] MonMotha: interesting
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[01:40:18] MonMotha: I know Charter encrypts EVERYTHING
[01:40:27] SlicerDicer-: MonMotha: I run daisy chained boxes
[01:40:33] MonMotha: ah, I have a PCI tuner
[01:40:39] SlicerDicer-: why not firewire?
[01:40:42] SlicerDicer-: its far superior
[01:40:45] MonMotha: how so?
[01:40:52] MonMotha: local cable co cripples their boxes out the wazoo
[01:41:04] SlicerDicer-: well I consider the quality to be damn good
[01:41:07] MonMotha: so is this
[01:41:13] MonMotha: it's a digital tuner
[01:41:27] SlicerDicer-: well I ran a PVR350 and it was crap compared to the firewire
[01:41:29] MonMotha: I'm pulling the raw MPEG stream straight off their local network stuff
[01:41:35] MonMotha: yeah,it would be
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[01:41:53] SlicerDicer-: ohh your piping in directly from the coax
[01:41:56] SlicerDicer-: not via a cablebox
[01:42:01] MonMotha: yeah, I have a digital PCI tuner
[01:42:08] MonMotha: pcHDTV 3000
[01:42:12] SlicerDicer-: ahhh
[01:42:18] SlicerDicer-: yeah I thought about doing that
[01:42:23] SlicerDicer-: but then I decided on firewire
[01:42:32] MonMotha: bought it a while back. Was using it for OTA stuff but I finally decided to make the cable work as it's more reliable than hoping my antenna is positioned right
[01:42:55] SlicerDicer-: indeed
[01:42:56] MonMotha: local cableco breaks their boxes so bad I'm not sure the IEEE1394 outputs work anymore. I've been told they at least disable remote channel change so you ahve to use an IR blaster
[01:43:05] SlicerDicer-: the firewire output has to work
[01:43:07] SlicerDicer-: its FCC mandate
[01:43:19] MonMotha: yes, but that doesn't mean it can't be encrypted, or that they have to let you change channels over it
[01:43:41] MonMotha: there is an encryption standard for the IEEE1394 ouputs that monitors and DVHS decks understand
[01:43:41] SlicerDicer-: well from what I understand all OTA stuff has to work
[01:43:59] MonMotha: yeah, but taht wouldn't get me HBO
[01:44:07] MonMotha: and I ahve all the OTA stuff except UPN
[01:44:11] MonMotha: I also get Universal HD, for whatever reason
[01:44:17] SlicerDicer-: hehe
[01:44:24] MonMotha: not complaining, I guess
[01:44:42] SlicerDicer-: hey I am not arguing with you just stating what I know. I do not pretend to know how RR does their stuff nor comcast I just know it seems to work in the seattle area
[01:44:43] MonMotha: basically I get all their HD stuff but the premium movie channels, HDNet, ESPN HD, and Discovery HD
[01:44:49] MonMotha: only thing I'd really care about is Discovery
[01:44:59] SlicerDicer-: yeah discovery HD rockx
[01:45:32] MonMotha: not worth $70/mo though
[01:46:32] MonMotha: bah, they need to start filming movies at 72FPS
[01:46:37] SlicerDicer-: why?
[01:46:39] MonMotha: 24 just isn't enough
[01:47:19] MonMotha: it looks really jerky, especially in HD
[01:47:28] MonMotha: part of it's that upconverting to 60 can't be done evenly
[01:47:38] MonMotha: well, 59.94
[01:49:22] Juski: eeks! time for bed
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[01:55:18] VlivE: even if I adjust the color in myth the color is stillnot good?
[01:55:21] VlivE: any ideas?
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[02:26:51] dscoular: VlivE, is the color of the gui bad or just live tv ?
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[03:11:47] benklop: hello!
[03:11:53] VlivE: dscoular> VlivE, is the color of the gui bad or just live tv ?
[03:12:02] VlivE: gui is fine just live tv is bad
[03:13:14] benklop: i just switched to a LVM with 2 drives from a single XFS drive, and copied all the files from mythtv's store into that LVM to preserve my old shows. it seems to have worked fine in that regard, but for some reason commercial flag jobs are not happening
[03:13:30] benklop: and the job queue says thre are no jobs scheduled
[03:13:38] benklop: any help/ideas/anything?
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[03:16:01] benklop: i'm also getting 2006-05–29 21:14:44.081 DB Error (Error in JobQueue::GetJobs(), Unable to query list of Jobs in Queue.):
[03:16:14] benklop: QMYSQL3: Unable to execute query
[03:16:15] benklop: Database error was:
[03:16:15] benklop: Can't open file: 'jobqueue.MYI' (errno: 145)
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[03:26:37] paulc38: anyone here having difficulty with mythtv not recording?
[03:27:21] paulc38: I have a Debian box, plays live TV fine and also sees the scheduled recordings (unlike earlier problem) but now goes to record but can't seem to start it
[03:40:04] dscoular: benklop, can you query the jobqueue table using simple mysql ?
[03:40:35] dscoular: paulc38, look at the /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log and see if you are getting any errors.
[03:41:46] SlicerDicer-: is anybody aware of mythtv not allowing the builtin lossless transcoding "commercial hacking out" to not work with HDTV?
[03:45:27] xris: SlicerDicer-: I've had it fail on certain recordings
[03:45:44] SlicerDicer-: xris: yeah it keeps failing on movies anyway
[03:45:57] xris: SlicerDicer-: seems to be specific things for me...
[03:45:59] SlicerDicer-: I am trying to rip the fronts and backs off the HD videos so there is no credits and stuff
[03:46:01] xris: no idea why
[03:46:12] SlicerDicer-: cause the credits have a huge amount of space for nothing
[03:46:18] xris: yeah
[03:46:25] xris: I think it's just a bug in the transcoder
[03:46:41] SlicerDicer-: but if I slice the HD in sections it seems to do fine
[03:46:47] VlivE: dscoular> VlivE, is the color of the gui bad or just live tv ?
[03:46:47] VlivE: <VlivE> gui is fine just live tv is bad
[03:47:30] VlivE: well I fine tuned it, with myths color/hue/brightness tuning feature but they still have "green lips"
[03:51:16] paulc38: dscoular: I did and I don't see any
[03:52:01] MonMotha: ok, I really need to get my XvMC working. 1080i is useless w/o it
[03:52:10] paulc38: oh..wait..maybe...
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[03:53:45] roz: my mythtv machine is recording random recordings... and also doesn't seem to update future recordings... like it forgets whats upcoming
[03:56:25] MonMotha: hum, is there an XvMC query program similar to xvinfo?
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[04:01:42] MonMotha: there we go
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[04:05:26] dscoular: MonMotha, xdpyinfo will tell you if the extension loaded.
[04:05:57] MonMotha: dscoular: yeah, the issue was that it was using the stock xorg libXvMC, not the nvidia one
[04:06:00] MonMotha: so the extension was loaded
[04:06:08] dscoular: VlivE, does this problem occur outwith mythtv... i.e. mplayer or xine.
[04:06:13] MonMotha: mmmm...1080i @ 45% CPU utilization
[04:06:26] MonMotha: though it's scaling it way down, can only do 720p on this monitor
[04:07:42] dscoular: paulc38, you can turn up debugging with the backend do a: "mythbackend -v help" to see what's available. You can combine different levels with a comma serparated list.
[04:08:31] dscoular: VlivE, very, very strange. how about disable the "use xv controls" setting
[04:09:07] dscoular: paulc38, or if you want it all "mythbackend -v all"
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[04:22:27] SlicerDicer-: xris: yeah it seems trying to slice that stuff out goes beserk with HDTV
[04:22:34] SlicerDicer-: I have tried 3 differnet things
[04:22:36] SlicerDicer-: each one fails
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[04:23:58] jehuty: anyone know good info about compiling ivtv manually here because im having some issues
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[04:27:21] xris: SlicerDicer-: it works on some hd stuff for me
[04:27:56] SlicerDicer-: I cant get any HD stuff to go
[04:28:08] SlicerDicer-: maybe it has to do with length?
[04:30:06] SlicerDicer-: xris: do you use the lossless option?
[04:30:31] SlicerDicer-: wow it turned green on one! OMG
[04:30:40] SlicerDicer-: but it failed too :/
[04:30:41] SlicerDicer-: damn
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[04:31:26] dscoular: jehuty, http://ivtvdriver.org/
[04:35:07] jehuty: ya i know the issue, is that tveeprom.ko file i cannot find but all the other .ko files are there
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[04:36:19] MonMotha: gah
[04:36:24] MonMotha: why must the ivtv drivers suck so badly
[04:36:47] jehuty: its the .62 driver too
[04:37:06] xris: SlicerDicer-: yes, I use lossless...
[04:37:19] SlicerDicer-: no idea why I cant get it to work at all
[04:37:22] xris: and like I said, there's a bug on some mpeg2 streams, and there's also a bug with some hd stuff (the green big)
[04:37:34] SlicerDicer-: yeah
[04:37:51] jehuty: but i believe thats the reason why when i compiled it i cant even run "cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg says there is no such file or directory
[04:38:47] mchou: anybody here happen to use suspend2?
[04:40:06] mchou: MonMotha: blame it on hauppauge or connexant for not releasig specs :)
[04:40:12] mchou: releasing*
[04:42:29] mchou: my XF86AudioRaiseVolume button raises the 'Master mono' volume. Anyone know how I should change the mapping to control the "Master (Stereo) Volume'?
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[05:01:18] jehuty: has anyone compilied ivtv-0.6.2 manually here since its seems that none of the *.ko files i need in the ivtv walkthrough are in the ivtv-0.6.2/driver directory like msp3400.ko tveeprom.ko tuner.ko tda9887.ko
[05:03:20] mchou: jehuty: that cause those modules are now elsewhere in the kernel if you use a recent kernel
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[05:05:05] dscoular: jehuty, I helped someone compile ivtv-0.6.2 the other day but there were compilation warnings about the tveeprom defines. And it failed to load.
[05:05:08] jehuty: mchou so there is no need to modify the *.ko files in the /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/media/video/ directory is what you're saying then
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[05:05:41] mchou: jehuty: rtfm for ivtv
[05:06:01] mchou: jehuty: the fm that came with ivtv tells all
[05:06:03] jehuty: mchou what do you mean
[05:06:09] jehuty: rtfm
[05:06:10] jehuty: ?
[05:06:12] dscoular: Read the Fine Manual
[05:06:19] jehuty: ahhh
[05:08:08] Agrajag-: no it's fucking
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[05:09:43] dscoular: Agrajag-> I was being polite.
[05:10:06] dscoular: It's also known as "Read the Friendly Manual".
[05:10:07] Agrajag-: :)
[05:10:28] dscoular: Agrajag->, but your definition is the most technically accurate ;)
[05:10:48] ** dscoular awards Agrajag-> one shiney gold star **
[05:11:52] Agrajag-: haha
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[05:21:46] jehuty: anyways cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg just gives cat: /dev/video0: No such device
[05:22:11] jehuty: and i believe i did everything correctly according to the manual
[05:22:59] MonMotha: woot, I have Universal HD
[05:23:04] MonMotha: no guide data :(
[05:23:38] jehuty: ivtv unfortunately does not have the best documentation
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[05:24:13] jehuty: whats the best place i could go for troubleshooting besides the ivtv channel and the mailing-lists
[05:27:59] jehuty: unless do i have to re-install the kernel again after running make && make install for ivtv-0.6.2 that may be why
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[05:32:20] dscoular: jehuty, your driver didn't load successfully if ther is no /dev/video0
[05:32:42] dscoular: You should have messages in your /var/log/messages indicating what happended
[05:35:18] dscoular: jehuty, you are talking about two seperate sets of driver versions I think. The binary, precompiled, modules that come with your distributions packaged kernel... and the separate source based modules obtained from http://ivtvdriver.org
[05:35:41] dscoular: What kernel and distro are you currently using ?
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[05:36:33] jehuty: distro gentoo kernel 2.6.16-r6
[05:37:02] jehuty: dscoular you are correct i am talking about 2 sets of driver versions
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[05:37:26] dscoular: ok... so I don't know if the gentoo kernel comes bundled with ivtv modules.
[05:37:44] dscoular: I do know that you need 0.6.2 ivtv to work with 2.6.16
[05:37:59] jehuty: yes i have 0.6.2
[05:38:04] jehuty: thats the one im working with
[05:38:22] jehuty: gentoo does have the ivtv modules
[05:39:05] jehuty: when i cd /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/media/video/ all of the files that the howto ivtv lists are there
[05:39:07] dscoular: As a separate ebuild or included as patches in the gentoo kernel ?
[05:39:29] dscoular: Yes but only 0.6.2 works with 2.6.16
[05:39:54] dscoular: if you loaded the ivtv modulees from a separate ebuild it is unlikely that they are version 0.6.2.
[05:41:05] jehuty: what do u mean if i loaded the ivtv modules from a separate ebuild (like an older install of ivtv?)
[05:41:59] dscoular: yes, but it actually looks like the ivtv modules are included in the gentoo kernel... and don't come from a separate ebuild.
[05:42:14] jehuty: where did you see that
[05:42:45] dscoular: I was looking at my 2.6.15-gentoo-r5 kernel source.
[05:42:56] jehuty: okay yes then
[05:43:21] dscoular: so, what card do you have
[05:44:23] jehuty: hauppauge wintv pvr-350
[05:45:29] dscoular: So your gentoo kernel already has ivtv drivers... did you then try to install the ones from ivtvdriver.org ?
[05:46:27] dscoular: When your machine boots up the kernel should have noticed the card and printed some initialisation messages in /var/log/messages
[05:47:00] jehuty: i followed the howto walkthrough on ivtvdriver.org to a T, and if you mean did i download and make && make install in the ivtv-0.6.2 directory then yes i did
[05:47:29] jehuty: dscoular well i haven't restarted the machine yet, i didn't know that was necessary
[05:47:41] dscoular: So you've overwritten the gentoo bundled kernel drivers with your attempt to compile the 0.6.2 source from ivtvdriver.org
[05:47:58] dscoular: Can you do this: lsmod|grep ivtv
[05:48:09] jehuty: i'm assuming make && make install does that
[05:48:23] dscoular: yes
[05:48:50] jehuty: output is this for lsmod|grep ivtv
[05:48:52] jehuty: lsmod|grep ivtv
[05:48:52] jehuty: ivtv 158992 0
[05:48:52] jehuty: tveeprom 12176 1 ivtv
[05:48:52] jehuty: v4l1_compat 12420 1 ivtv
[05:48:52] jehuty: i2c_core 13184 2 ivtv,tveeprom
[05:48:53] jehuty: videodev 7040 1 ivtv
[05:49:03] dscoular: I would have assumed that if the gentoo people package together a 2.6.16 kernel they would select the correct version of ivtv.
[05:49:10] dscoular: Okay, that's good
[05:49:35] dscoular: that means the kernel loaded... you need to look in /var/log/messages and find the messages relating to your card.
[05:49:41] dscoular: I bet it failed to load the firmware.
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[05:52:06] dscoular: since you haven't rebooted it should still be using the gentoo 2.6.16-r6 bundled modules.
[05:52:14] dscoular: jehuty, You still breathing ?
[05:53:33] dscoular: You should be searching the /var/log/messages for "START INIT IVTV"
[05:54:08] jehuty: okay ya thats what i was doing
[05:54:57] MonMotha: and after much work, I have guide data for UHD
[05:54:59] dscoular: Paste the bit between the start and end into http://pastebin.ca and let me know the url
[05:55:51] jehuty: dscoular is the newest logs on the bottom or top
[05:56:02] dscoular: bottom
[05:56:24] jehuty: ok
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[05:58:03] dscoular: jehuty, and the url would be ?
[05:59:04] jehuty: just a sec
[06:00:43] jehuty: http://pastebin.com/746224
[06:00:51] dscoular: thx
[06:03:08] dscoular: and you haven't rebooted since you compiled 0.6.2 and did the make install ?
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[06:06:05] jehuty: nope
[06:06:25] dscoular: was there any warning about tveeprom during the compilation
[06:06:52] dscoular: and did you ensure you had a copy of the firmware in /lib/firmware ?
[06:09:10] jehuty: there was no warning no
[06:09:21] dscoular: what about firmware ?
[06:09:46] jehuty: do you think that the firmware may not be placed in the correct directory?
[06:09:59] dscoular: did you put it in /lib/firmware ?
[06:10:06] jehuty: yes, of course
[06:10:35] dscoular: ok try rebooting and let me have the new messages from /var/log/messages in pastebin.ca okay ?
[06:10:41] jehuty: yes i just ls'd it all four files are in there
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[06:11:03] jehuty: okay
[06:11:14] dscoular: four files ? I only see three mentioned on the web page
[06:12:27] dscoular: v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw, v4l-cx2341x-dec.fw and v4l-cx25840.fw
[06:13:15] tuxristo: hello – it's been forever since i have been here – hope everyone is doing alright
[06:13:22] jehuty: or if you have ivtv 0.4.2 or later,
[06:13:22] jehuty: cp v4l-cx2341x-init.mpg /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware
[06:13:30] jehuty: the .mpg file as well
[06:13:54] jehuty: thats from the site
[06:15:12] jehuty: at the bottom
[06:15:17] jehuty: do you see what i mean
[06:15:26] tuxristo: i am having a couple of live tv issues with 0.19 and i was wondering what the standard setup these days is – looks like there is a 0.19-fixes branch – is trunk usable? or should i update to 0.19-fixes to see if they have been fixed?
[06:16:04] dscoular: tuxristo, you should update to 0.19-fixes, trunk svn is not stable yet.
[06:16:30] jehuty: i'll reboot and see the messages again dscoular okay?
[06:16:36] dscoular: jehuty, well spotted... sure
[06:17:02] dscoular: tuxristo, 0.19 was pretty poor IMHO
[06:17:18] dscoular: tuxristo, especially for DVB-T users
[06:18:34] tuxristo: dscoular, i am a pvr-250 user and the damn live tv freezes every time a new show comes on, AND pressing 'X' in the epg to change channel results in a crash upon exiting the epg .... i will give the fixes branch a try ;)
[06:19:14] dscoular: tuxristo, go for it... I have fond memories of 0.18.1.
[06:20:23] tuxristo: dscoular, hell i remember 0.14 being a pretty good release :) 0.18.1 was pretty good too i must admit
[06:20:40] jehuty: dscoular do i have to run modprobe ivtv or anything
[06:20:55] tuxristo: ok , i am off to download and compile
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[06:21:25] dscoular: jehuty, if it doesn't already show up in "lsmod|grep ivtv" I would.
[06:21:38] dscoular: jehuty, otherwise just give me the /var/log/messages
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[06:26:17] jehuty: http://pastebin.ca/59827
[06:26:22] jehuty: there you go
[06:26:29] dscoular: thx
[06:27:19] dscoular: not much to go on there
[06:27:34] dscoular: Did you find that the ivtv module was already loaded ?
[06:28:30] jehuty: which module which specific file are you referring to
[06:28:59] dscoular: Duh... the "ivtv" module
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[06:29:25] jehuty: because what i found was that all of *.ko files were already in the gentoo kernel directory and none in the ivtv/driver directory
[06:29:36] jehuty: the module was already in the kernel then
[06:30:42] jehuty: dscoular that output was from modprobe ivtv
[06:30:48] jehuty: then lsmod|grep ivtv
[06:31:04] dscoular: jehuty, you are very confused. I am not talking about what files are in the filesystem... I am talking about what modules were loaded by the kernel.
[06:31:56] dscoular: when you say gentoo kernel directory I wanted what you mean by that... e.g. what is the full path you are talking about. Similarly it would be good to know what the full path of the is ivtv/driver directory is you mention.
[06:32:06] dscoular: s/wanted/wondered/
[06:32:54] dscoular: s/the is/this/
[06:33:12] jehuty: l
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[06:34:55] jehuty: okay
[06:36:07] jehuty: the kernel directory /lib/modules/'uname -r'/kernel/
[06:36:35] jehuty: the ivtv directory is ivtv-0.6.2/driver
[06:36:51] jehuty: or actually /root/ivtv-0.6.2/drive
[06:36:58] jehuty: driver*
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[06:38:09] dscoular: jehuty, ok the /root/ivtv-0.6.2/driver directory doesn't matter right now.
[06:38:23] dscoular: What matters is that the tveeprom error has disappeared from the logs
[06:38:46] jehuty: that directory is where the *.ko files should be according to the ivtv howto on http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Howto
[06:39:06] dscoular: which one ;)
[06:41:14] jehuty: what do mean which one, which one what?
[06:42:13] dscoular: when you say "that directory" which one are you referring to /root/ivtv-0.6.2/driver or /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel
[06:42:55] jehuty: the dir /root/ivtv-0.6.2/driver
[06:44:20] dscoular: the make install should have taken the compiled *.ko out of there and put them in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/....
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[06:47:34] dscoular: do this: ls -ltr /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/media/video/
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[06:48:03] dscoular: it should be obvious to you whether these are the modules from the kernel installation or from your "make install"
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[06:49:49] ** NightMonkey wishes 19.1 was here ;) **
[06:50:36] ** dscoular wishes 20.1 was here **
[06:50:43] jehuty: yes, there are a lot of *.ko files in there that relate to ivtv
[06:50:57] ** dscoular shakes his head **
[06:51:36] jehuty: my question is should i be using the A) IVTV CARD INSTALLATION ALONE method from the ivtvhowto page
[06:52:03] jehuty: which you change some of those files to .ko.old
[06:52:15] jehuty: from .ko
[06:53:53] dscoular: Is it obvious which modules came via your make install ?
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[06:59:02] dscoular: usually people follow the howto first, then ask questions ;)
[06:59:06] jehuty: no not exactly because i didn't look into the /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/media/video directory before i ran make install
[06:59:19] jehuty: yes that is what i have done
[06:59:25] dscoular: jehuty, can you tell from the dates.
[07:01:03] jehuty: ahh yes same dates for all, may 25 ivtv.ko and ivtv-fb.ko times are at 3 hr later time then the rest of the files tho
[07:01:27] jehuty: excuse 6 hrs
[07:01:39] dscoular: and when did you run the ivtv "make install" ?
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[07:03:07] frederikfdvp: hi
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[07:03:30] frederikfdvp: i am having a problem with mythflash : http://pastebin.com/746266
[07:03:47] jehuty: not 6 hrs ago
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[07:09:53] frederikfdvp: anyeone
[07:09:57] frederikfdvp: http://pastebin.com/746266
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[07:13:07] tuxristo: dscoular, lookslike the crash is still there :(
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[07:17:04] jehuty: alright i re-installed the ivtv-driver firmware is installed too and everything, and ran modprobe ivtv localhost driver # modprobe ivtv
[07:17:04] jehuty: FATAL: Error inserting ivtv (/lib/modules/2.6.16-gentoo-r6/kernel/drivers/media/video/ivtv.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[07:17:09] jehuty: thats what i got
[07:17:12] frederikfdvp: [root@mythtv ~]# /usr/local/bin/mythflash.sh "%DIR%" "%FILE%"
[07:17:13] frederikfdvp: cat: %DIR%/%FILE%.flv: Onbekend bestand of map
[07:17:14] frederikfdvp: ERROR: undefined method `timestamp' for nil:NilClas
[07:17:17] frederikfdvp: sorry for the flood
[07:17:23] jehuty: http://pastebin.ca/59829 heres the pastebin
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[07:21:06] frederikfdvp: anyone here that works with mythflash ?
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[07:31:19] frederikfdvp: anyone here that could help me ?
[07:31:25] frederikfdvp: http://pastebin.com/746300
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[07:36:51] psofa: TVRec(1): Your channel ordering method "channel number (numeric)"
[07:36:51] psofa: will not work with channels like:
[07:36:58] psofa: TVRec(1): Channel: '' was not found in the database.
[07:36:58] psofa: Most likely, the default channel set for this input
[07:36:58] psofa: cardid 1, input 'DVBInput'
[07:36:59] psofa: in setup is wrong
[07:42:25] psofa: happens after upgrading to svn 9936
[07:42:44] psofa: it will tune to the last channel
[07:42:51] psofa: after that i cant go nywhere
[07:43:53] frederikfdvp: anyone here that could help solve my problem ?
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[07:57:08] frederikfdvp: none use mythflash ?
[08:03:38] fatmatt: frederikfdvp, is mythflash the same version as your backend and is the hostname f*... known by the client?
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[08:18:53] frederikfdvp: hmm , mythflash is scrip
[08:18:54] frederikfdvp: t
[08:20:30] frederikfdvp: http://pastebin.com/746300
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[08:59:32] Juski: morning
[08:59:53] psofa: hi
[09:00:15] psofa: Juski, have you gotten xvmc working with svn?
[09:01:29] psofa: i did the /etc/Xvmcsomething file and it loaded xvmc however im getting one or two errors and many prebuffering pauses
[09:01:55] psofa: to the point that xvmc uses 30%cpu and standard 40%
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[09:02:50] psofa: which is strange since xvmc used to use only 15%
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[10:27:49] Juski: psofa: yes I got xvmc working witn svn. not via xvmc though
[10:28:04] Juski: morning stuarta
[10:30:33] Juski: interesting problem with r10056 scanning – all the channels are detected & put into the channel table correctly but the mux frequency info doesn't have the right offset! putting the freqs right in the dtv_multiplex table makes it all better
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[11:00:11] psofa: Juski, using xvmcwrapper or the xvmc lib directly?
[11:00:26] psofa: Juski, thats the only way i add channels btw
[11:00:38] psofa: ive had bad experiences with channel scanner
[11:00:44] psofa: im never gonna trust it again :P
[11:00:51] k-man_: hello
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[11:02:08] johnp_: I kind of think we should remove the channel import stuff from the scanner, then at least we'd iron out the bugs.
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[11:03:33] watson540: has anyone here gotten the ati gatos drivers workng?
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[11:06:52] psofa: btw what do i need to do to see the new opengl stuff in myth? or theres nothung to be seen?
[11:07:43] psofa: *nothing
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[11:15:59] Juski: psofa: it's a new setting in the appearance setup menu
[11:16:14] Juski: as for the xvmc wrapper – I ditched it
[11:16:47] psofa: Juski, why?
[11:16:59] psofa: is there any difference if myth accesses via the wrapper?
[11:17:11] psofa: i mean the wrapper its just a link
[11:17:13] psofa: or not?
[11:17:48] Juski: I had problems getting svn to build with the right library
[11:17:59] psofa: Juski, oh
[11:18:13] psofa: but if it manages to see it theres no difference right?
[11:18:29] Juski: after that though I found out about the xvmc config file in /etc/X11/
[11:18:41] Juski: which wasn't present on umbongo breezy :-/
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[11:19:05] Juski: psofa: so long as mythtv's config script links to the right lib it's ok AFAIK
[11:19:23] ** dscoular thinks... if it ain't broke why fix it **
[11:19:39] psofa: Juski, myths config links to the wrapper
[11:19:48] psofa: after i tried mythf
[11:19:52] Juski: that didn't work for me
[11:20:00] psofa: it couldnt find the /etc/X11 thing
[11:20:12] Juski: I renamed the wrapper files & then re-ran configure. then it picked up to use the nvidia libs
[11:20:32] psofa: i put in the right lib in /etc/X11/xvmc thing and it didnd complain
[11:20:37] psofa: howver its unusable
[11:20:48] psofa: and i dont know if its because svn or the wrapper thing
[11:21:27] Juski: could be either
[11:21:55] Juski: if configure doesn't report exactly which lib it's building against, something is wrong iirc
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[11:35:56] psofa: Juski, how do i tell ./configure which xvmc libs to build on?
[11:36:04] stuarta: afternoon Juski
[11:36:10] dscoular: ./configure --help
[11:36:15] ivor: Juski: fyi, if you have a recent enough X driver then you don't need the /etc/X11/XvMCConfig file because the driver registers which one to use.
[11:36:39] Juski: ivor: yeh but it doesn't help myth's configure script
[11:37:21] Juski: well didn't help me anyway ;-) I sorted it the brute force way. seems to be fine like that
[11:37:50] dscoular: psofa, configure is just a shell script
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[11:38:10] dscoular: psofa, it uses rules of thumb to determine what it should enable/disable
[11:38:13] Juski: stuarta: did you see my dev list posting?
[11:38:33] psofa: --xvmc-lib=LIB XvMC library override (for crosscompiling)
[11:38:36] psofa: is that the one?
[11:38:38] stuarta: haven't caught up yet, been off playing with the cluster....
[11:39:12] dscoular: psofa, for example it uses has_header and has_library to determine whether a requested --enable option can actually be satisfied.
[11:39:16] qu0zl: Ivor, it was with a sp13000 that I'm getting the xvmc lockups with .19-fixes/dapper drakes xorg/via driver (in answer to your question of 16 hours ago :)
[11:39:18] Juski: stuarta: sorting out the dtv_multiplex table has pretty much stopped all the tuning time issues & segfaults AFAICT
[11:39:39] stuarta: define "sorting out"
[11:40:00] Juski: the frequencies put into the table by scanning were 'right' but didn't have the right offset
[11:40:16] Juski: some were even out by 10Hz
[11:41:10] Juski: scanning got all the right channels – no probs there. but I had to edit the dtv_multiplex table & put the right freqs in myself
[11:41:12] stuarta: I found that one of my muxes would tune to the hd test mux because the freq was high by 16.7Khz
[11:41:29] stuarta: after rescanning that fixed mine.
[11:41:54] stuarta: okay, I'll have a read of your email and get back to you....
[11:42:01] Juski: cheers.
[11:42:37] stuarta: after lunch, need food.... :)
[11:42:56] qu0zl: .
[11:42:58] Juski: 10056 works fantastically apart from that ickle thing. and all the EIT cpu hogging – which seems now to go by the 'useonairguide' column – without having a video source set up for it
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[11:46:32] ivor: qu0zl: ok thanks. are the lockups "occasional and random" especially after exiting live tv?
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[11:48:35] psofa: Juski, it seems configure prefers wrapper from the normal libs
[11:49:04] Juski: well whatever it prefers... like I said I sorted mine out & now it works
[11:49:58] ivor: psofa: what sort of board are you using? if it's a via variant, just stick with the wrapper.
[11:50:27] psofa: its an nvidia
[11:50:43] psofa: 0.19 used to pick up the nvidia libs correctly
[11:50:49] ivor: hokay.,.. in that case link against the nvidia lib. :)
[11:52:55] qu0zl: ivor, they're about 50% of the time on exiting live tv
[11:53:09] qu0zl: it shows the mythtv menus but xorg goes to full cpu usage
[11:53:18] qu0zl: i can still ssh onto the box, but x is dead
[11:53:39] ivor: qu0zl: righty-ho. yeah problem with the cn400 variant chips. haven't had time to investigate...
[11:53:51] qu0zl: i've gotta run to lunch. if i can help debug this by compiling in any debug stuff into mythv or your openchrome drivers send me a pm
[11:54:06] qu0zl: no worries, i know you're busy
[11:54:08] qu0zl: anyway, lunch :)
[11:54:40] ivor: qu0zl: yeah spent most of the weekend remotely diagnosing why a VN800 laptop doesn't display XV but a VN800 mainboard works just fine.
[11:54:52] qu0zl: joy
[11:55:12] ivor: qu0zl: no, no debug info needed. I can reproduce that problem. just haven't had time to look into it.
[11:55:28] qu0zl: cool, well if you need anything tested give me a shout
[11:55:37] psofa: does that look ok? --xvmc-lib=libXvMCNVIDIA_dynamic.so.1
[11:55:44] qu0zl: i'll probably roll back to mythtv .18.1 and see if that fixes things
[11:55:48] qu0zl: harder to roll back X unfortunately
[11:55:54] ivor: drop the "lib" off the frontm and the ".so.1" off the end.
[11:56:31] ivor: qu0zl: I'd be surprised if it did... but it would be interesting if it did.
[11:56:42] ivor: psofa: I think it's without the _dynamic too actually.
[11:56:55] qu0zl: yeah, the weird thing is mplayer -vo xv so far hasnt hung for me
[11:56:58] ** ivor can't remember, hasn't linked against nvidia for ages. **
[11:57:01] psofa: :)
[11:57:08] qu0zl: but i use that way way less than live tv, so it may just be luck
[11:57:42] ivor: psofa: you probably want --disable-xvmc-vld too
[11:57:44] dscoular: psofa, what makes you think linking via XvMC wrapper didn't work ?
[11:57:58] psofa: dscoular, im not sure
[11:58:04] psofa: ive got xvmc problems
[11:58:07] psofa: with svn
[11:58:16] ivor: qu0zl: but "-vo xv" is just using Xv not XvMC.
[11:58:17] psofa: and i want to check if thats the prob
[11:58:24] ivor: psofa: what problems?
[11:58:25] qu0zl: good point Ivor
[11:58:29] qu0zl: :)
[11:58:31] dscoular: :)
[11:58:42] Juski: I was seeing mythtv crash X using svn compiled trying to use the wrapper
[11:58:50] Juski: xine worked fine with -V xxmc
[11:59:01] Juski: but not myth – killed X straight away
[11:59:39] Juski: when i moved the wrapper stuff out of the way & ran ./configure before recompiling – all was well
[11:59:51] psofa: ivor,
[11:59:54] psofa: VideoOutputXv: XvMCTex: Init failed
[11:59:59] ivor: thats a warning
[12:00:04] psofa: ProcessFrameXvMC: Tried to reuse frame but failed
[12:00:12] psofa: ProcessFrameXvMC: Called without frame
[12:00:22] psofa: XvMC: picture structure FRAME
[12:00:33] psofa: and a shitload of prebuffering pauses
[12:00:40] psofa: it worked fine on 0.19
[12:01:23] Juski: I see a lot of prebuffering pauses but playback is mostly fine
[12:01:32] Juski: it's definitely not as smooth as 0.19 was though
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[12:02:49] psofa: Juski, i enabled the ogl ui thing and i dont see anything different :(
[12:05:14] Juski: psofa: you need to restart mythfrontend
[12:06:49] Juski: RTFMWDEY :-P
[12:07:05] Juski: read the fscking manual which doesn't exist yet ;-)
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[12:07:16] psofa: i see some fade in
[12:07:20] psofa: and smoother fonts
[12:07:21] Juski: that's it
[12:07:31] psofa: :)
[12:07:35] Juski: exciting huh?
[12:07:50] psofa: lol
[12:08:09] psofa: the fonts thing is good though
[12:08:15] ivor: Juski: ah, just wait till the buttons have funky 3d effects. :)
[12:08:24] psofa: they look better on my crappy tv now
[12:08:36] Juski: zoomfade!
[12:08:47] ivor: wobblefade!
[12:08:50] psofa: lol
[12:08:55] Juski: ivor: I'm only kidding. fades are kinda lame on their own though
[12:09:07] psofa: btw 0.19 crashes on my xgl server
[12:09:20] psofa: mplayer xv works fine
[12:09:24] Juski: next up: seriously annoying whoosh noises to accompany the animation
[12:09:36] Juski: swoosh! beep! bing!!!
[12:09:40] Juski: <smash!!!>
[12:09:41] psofa: :D
[12:10:48] Juski: I watched a systm episode where they take the Ipoo nano apart. I like that UI
[12:11:46] psofa: at last tuning speed is decent with dvb
[12:12:04] psofa: ^^
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[12:13:42] flithm: hey everyone... I've got a new mythfrontend setup on my LAN... the new frontend is connected via wireless, and it experiences occasional to frequent skipping... is this a common problem with wireless and mythtv, or is it unrelated? Anyone got any ideas how I can fix this?
[12:15:10] flithm: also the wiki at mythtv.beirdo.ca is giving me sql errors
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[12:20:34] Juski: flithm: IMHO wireless != good
[12:20:46] Juski: as for the official wiki, try www.mythtv.org/wiki/
[12:21:02] VlivE: I'm using a radeon x1600 pro video card but my colors are all screwed up
[12:21:05] VlivE: no red
[12:21:27] Juski: VlivE: have you tried #ati ?
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[12:22:07] VlivE: no its a myth problem cause xwindows is crystal clear at 1280x960
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[12:22:40] Juski: VlivE: what about playing video in other apps?
[12:23:35] VlivE: mplay is perfect
[12:23:44] VlivE: mplayer is perfect with dvd's
[12:23:47] flithm: Juski, yeah you're right about wireless != good.
[12:23:49] psofa: mplayer with -vo xv?
[12:24:26] VlivE: yes, whatever the standard is
[12:24:30] psofa: VlivE, try mplayer -vo xv dvd://1 or something like that
[12:24:30] VlivE: did not change it
[12:24:44] psofa: maybe mpayer is using shared x11 or how tis called
[12:24:46] flithm: VlivE, I wouldn't say perfect... it screws up some DVDs that require menu support (a lot of tv episode DVDs)... I mean you can still play the DVDs from the command line but from mythtv they don't work so well... I generally configure mythdvd to use xine because it works with all dvds
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[12:25:17] VlivE: ok I tred it on 1 dvd
[12:25:20] VlivE: and it played good
[12:25:47] flithm: yeah generally mplayer is awesome
[12:25:55] VlivE: i complied myth to enable xvmc
[12:25:59] Juski: I tried 'mars attacks' using the internal player last night – menus didn't seem to be working – I think the button masks weren't being shown
[12:26:00] VlivE: should I not?
[12:26:15] Juski: VlivE: ATI has no support for xvmc
[12:26:31] VlivE: well that does it
[12:26:35] VlivE: its working?
[12:26:43] VlivE: but like I said the color is skewed
[12:27:06] Zider: hm, I didn't even know mythtv had a built-in dvd player.. :P
[12:27:26] Juski: Zider: as of 0.19 it does.. still a bit beta though
[12:27:40] Zider: Juski: ah
[12:27:55] Zider: Juski: can you control the menus with keyboard? :P
[12:27:59] Juski: set the dvd player command to Internal to try it
[12:28:21] Zider: maybe I will :)
[12:28:22] Juski: Zider: it kinda works with menus, but some discs throw it
[12:28:37] Zider: I'm using xine now, but I need mouse or remote to use the menus.. :/
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[12:29:16] Juski: Zider: xine allows you to use the keyboard
[12:29:31] Juski: just not with the arrow keys
[12:29:33] Zider: Juski: must be a special setting then, because I can't :P
[12:29:38] Zider: oh?
[12:29:40] Zider: how thren?
[12:29:42] Zider: -r
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[12:29:50] Juski: number keys iirc
[12:30:07] Zider: hm
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[12:34:07] VlivE: Xv is enbable by default ya?
[12:35:38] Zider: VlivE: in what program?
[12:35:56] VlivE: myth-019
[12:36:09] VlivE: I don't see an enable xv in ./configure --help
[12:36:16] VlivE: I see disble
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[12:36:41] Zider: I guess if there's disable but not enable then it's on by default :)
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[12:37:54] VlivE: good asumption I gues
[12:37:56] VlivE: s
[12:40:00] VlivE: I hope xv works
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[12:49:40] Neeesat25: I am using gnome and I am working evrything as root at the moment. How can I set rights for mythtv user to run mythtv?
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[12:51:53] Fremean: hey, how do I make mythdvd eject a disc?
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[12:56:20] darthy: im getting timeouts in dmesg with my hauppauge nova se2 and my nova s plus. (cx88[0]/2: cx8802_timeout)
[12:56:54] darthy: i have the module cx88_dvb loaded at startup.
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[12:57:38] darthy: its a module from v4l.. whats wrong? im getting mpeg streams with NULL-data.
[12:58:02] darthy: the tuner seems to tune correctly with szap.. but no streaming data with dvbstream for example.
[12:58:09] darthy: does anyone have any ideas on that?
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[13:07:35] psofa: Juski, do you get any strange crashes with svn?
[13:07:53] psofa: from the frontend
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[13:29:38] asd26: is there a audio program to setup 5.1 sound on mythtv?
[13:30:27] Fremean: just worked for me... once I got my sound set up
[13:32:50] asd26: can mythtv player do 5.1 strait away?
[13:33:09] VlivE: ok I recompiled myth not to use xvmc but to use xv
[13:33:14] darthy: anyone got the hauppauge nova s plus and se2 working with mythtv ?
[13:33:17] VlivE: but the color problem is the same
[13:33:35] _nero_: asd26, if you have a receiver that will do AC3, and a way to get AC3 input to the mythbox, you can do AC3 passthrough..
[13:34:20] VlivE: can't beleive this ati radeon x1600, 256mb ram, dvi,vga,svideo don't work correctly for myth?
[13:35:24] _nero_: otherwise, if you are getting the 5.1 sound to the machine (optical or coax digital sound), but dont have a digital receiver, but are trying to use your soundcard to do the 5.1 (ex- plugging the front, rear, center speakers into the soundcard directly), you may be able to do it with a .asoundrc file and ALSA..
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[13:36:20] asd26: _nero_ yeahs that how i have it setup
[13:36:25] VlivE: whats wrong with the color?
[13:36:33] VlivE: on myth?
[13:37:02] _nero_: asd26, the first challenge is getting the 5.1 sound to the mythtv machine.. do you have digital sound out from your STB? or are you using an HD card?
[13:40:55] asd26: _nero_ i think so
[13:41:08] asd26: sound is working fine, just 2.0
[13:41:11] Fremean: ewwwwwwww my mythdv make mess )c:
[13:41:42] asd26: _nero_ using a HD card
[13:41:56] asd26: i sold my HD setop box..lol
[13:42:57] _nero_: asd26, I dont have a HD card myself, but beleive you should be getting AC3 sound in from the HD card.. so that is good..
[13:43:55] asd26: yeah AC3 thats correct
[13:44:18] Fremean: I get AC3 sound from my HD DVB card in SD mode
[13:44:25] _nero_: if you had a receiver, its real easy- just do the AC3 pass through.. I beleive there is a way using ALSA and the proper .asoundrc file to have ALSA do your decoding (so you would use AC3 passthrough in Mythtv, then ALSA to decode it and send out the channels to your various speakers)
[13:44:53] Fremean: I've got AC3 passthrough disabled as it breaks my alsa .soundrc (c:
[13:45:06] Fremean: but I output to spdif
[13:45:18] asd26: don't have a receiver, just cheap 5.1 system
[13:45:35] _nero_: but that is more of an ALSA issue than mythtv.. and (un)fortunately since I have an external receiver, I dont have to mess with that.
[13:46:01] _nero_: you may want to google ALSA AC3 Decoding
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[13:57:18] Fremean: WTF?!?!?! my recordings show up as completely blank!!!
[13:57:22] VlivE: so could anyone help me with my myth playback color issue on live tv
[13:58:25] Fremean: I think something in the dvdrip upset it
[13:58:47] Merlin83b: VlivE: After a recent upgrade, my hue value got set to zero. I readjusted it to 50 and it sorted that out.
[13:58:53] Fremean: ah, ok... ran out of disc space
[13:58:57] Fremean: hmmmmmmmmm...
[13:59:01] Fremean: I need more disk space
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[14:00:18] psofa: btw why noone has fixed the mute sound thing?
[14:00:29] psofa: wheni mute the volume is lower
[14:00:33] psofa: but its not 0
[14:00:44] psofa: happens in 0.19 and in svn
[14:01:09] psofa: but maybe its only me :D
[14:01:15] psofa: anyone else having it?
[14:01:18] armand: nope
[14:01:21] psofa: lol
[14:01:24] psofa: srry
[14:01:53] armand: you could be like me, and have a audio chipset that sucks so much it doesnt have a volume slider for master volume
[14:01:55] armand: its either on, or off
[14:02:03] armand: pcm volume doesnt work, its either on or off
[14:02:04] armand: hgehe
[14:02:07] armand: good stuff.
[14:02:28] psofa: ?
[14:02:30] psofa: nope
[14:02:34] psofa: it has a slider
[14:02:39] armand: so count yourself lucky :)
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[14:03:46] psofa: do i have to do anything special to get dvbeit working? I have checked use eid data for my input.And also the channel table has useonairguide=1 for all chans
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[14:11:08] Neeesat25: I have compile everything as root now I want to run them as mythtv user. Is there a way to give access to run mythtv to users or I will have to recompile using mythtv user?
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[14:11:44] armand: not too framiliar with unix?
[14:12:03] qu0zl: just do a "make install" Neeesat25. that should set the correct permissions on the executables
[14:12:17] qu0zl: you can't do the "make install" as non-root anyway
[14:12:36] armand: unless he/she instaleld it through portage, rpm, apt, or yum or something
[14:12:46] qu0zl: he said compiled
[14:12:54] armand: true... but who knows :)
[14:12:58] qu0zl: and i doubt he specified a diff
[14:13:01] Neeesat25: I am using mythtv but as root
[14:13:03] qu0zl: erent directory. but true ;)
[14:13:03] armand: you'd be surprised how many people think useing portage is compiling
[14:13:17] ** psofa hides :P **
[14:13:30] qu0zl: Neeesat25, did you type "make install" as the last stage of your compile? You did compile right? not apt, yum, portage?
[14:13:40] Neeesat25: yes
[14:13:46] Neeesat25: I have compile and make install
[14:13:47] armand: which part? :)
[14:14:02] Neeesat25: The only problem is that I have compile it as root
[14:14:02] armand: good good, then the perms should be set on mythfrontend for you
[14:14:23] armand: mythbackend wont run as root by default, but i do because im insecure
[14:14:27] Neeesat25: When I try to start mythfrontend I get no access to start it
[14:14:54] armand: did you setup ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt?
[14:14:55] Neeesat25: It runs only if I login as root
[14:15:13] qu0zl: whats the exact error Neeesat25
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[14:15:43] armand: there could be a mysql.txt file in /root/.mythtv that would you need to copy over to that user. if its an access denied mysql error anyway
[14:15:52] Neeesat25: cannot connect to X server 0.0
[14:15:57] armand: ah
[14:15:59] armand: heheh :)
[14:16:02] qu0zl: oh, Root is running the X server?
[14:16:08] qu0zl: who's logged into X?
[14:16:13] qu0zl: you need it to be mythtv
[14:16:18] armand: is x running? hehe
[14:16:24] qu0zl: also that :)
[14:16:49] Neeesat25: I have loged in as root then logout and relogin as mythtv
[14:16:57] Neeesat25: I use gnome
[14:16:59] qu0zl: login to X as mythtv. open a terminal window. type mythfrontend
[14:18:23] darthy: does anyone in here have a nova se2 or s plus runnins with mythtv?
[14:18:41] Neeesat25: I got Session Managment Error
[14:18:58] Neeesat25: Authentication Rejected
[14:19:09] armand: hrm, thats an interesting one
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[14:19:18] qu0zl: is that when you try to log into X as myhtv?
[14:19:28] armand: thats not an error related to mythtv, but honestly ive never seen that before heh
[14:19:51] armand: neesat25: can you paste the entire error in http://pastebin.ca?
[14:19:55] Neeesat25: no thats when I try to run mythfrontend
[14:21:29] armand: is that the error you pasted? with mispelled management and everything?
[14:22:02] armand: please use pastebin and give us the url
[14:22:05] armand: that'll help *alot* :)
[14:22:07] qu0zl: that looks like an xauth problem armand. Which is a bit mad if he logged in as mythtv and is trying to run a x client as mythtv :)
[14:22:15] armand: yeah
[14:23:12] armand: id ask him more questions, like if its a remote box and he's ssh'ing but he wont even answer the other questions lol
[14:23:15] armand: he/she whatever
[14:23:17] asd26: mpeg4 can't be converted to dvd right?
[14:23:26] armand: sure it can
[14:24:05] asd26: i tried it in mythweb and it has error for some reason
[14:24:34] armand: oh you want a point and clicketty click, yeah i dunno, mythweb is probably setup to use mpeg2
[14:24:59] armand: im not 100% positive, because i dont transcode to mpeg4, but you may have to transcode back to mpeg2 lol
[14:25:03] qu0zl: if you run a transcode job on it from mpeg4 to mpeg2 will that work then
[14:25:07] qu0zl: it should
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[14:26:05] Neeesat25: All working
[14:26:21] Neeesat25: chmod to some files and it worked
[14:26:51] armand: neat :)
[14:28:19] Neeesat25: neat armand
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[14:49:08] psofa: svn 9936 frontend crashes every now and then while changing channels.Any idea?
[14:49:28] asd26: now i need to find my iso's
[14:50:47] asd26: dudes i just created an iso in mythtv now i want to transfer it
[14:54:36] qu0zl: a .iso image file? you probably want to google for some linux file transfer stuff. Check out scp (winscp for windows client), or run a webserver and use http, or put samba, or ftp, or nfs on your mythtv box
[14:54:47] qu0zl: that's general linux networking stuff , not mythtv really
[14:55:38] asd26: qu0zl i got mythweb to convert my recordings to an iso DVD, but u can't access it on mythweb so i suspect it's in a directory somewhere
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[14:57:42] hashbang: asd26: it ends up in $tempdir, as configured in mythburn.conf
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[14:58:48] asd26: right
[14:58:51] asd26: it's there
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[14:59:23] hashbang: asd26: you might like to install videolan-client and play the iso directly before burning it.
[15:00:02] psofa: a found out some moe things
[15:00:16] asd26: transfering it going to be a problem
[15:00:23] psofa: it seems it eats up much ram before dieing
[15:00:35] qu0zl: do you not have a network asd26?
[15:00:45] psofa: can it be the eit thing?
[15:00:50] asd26: i do
[15:00:56] qu0zl: then google for the topics i suggested, pick one, and transfer it that way?
[15:01:19] asd26: i can get my movie files off it really easy
[15:01:35] asd26: doesn't seem like mythweb is made for transfering iso's
[15:02:09] qu0zl: it isn't, but linux is
[15:03:06] asd26: lol i should just put a burner in my mythbox
[15:03:34] asd26: i might no a hack to get around it
[15:04:32] hashbang: asd26: or just make webroot/mythweb/isos the $tempdir
[15:04:37] hashbang: or something
[15:05:24] asd26: http://192.168.1.4/mythweb/data/recordings/mythburndvd.iso&nb sp;:)
[15:06:04] asd26: just moved it to dir of my recordings
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[15:07:18] asd26: 4800 transfer rate
[15:11:37] laga: hashbang: woohoo! that's a nifty idea. thanks :)
[15:13:37] asd26: anyone know why turning off delinterance looks some much better, but causes jerky video?
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[15:19:43] darthy: can anyone send a vc.agent and module.agent from /etc/hotplug? i cant fin it anywhere and it seems to required for v4l
[15:19:51] darthy: find
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[15:21:29] hashbang: asd26: what is your display device, and how are you getting video from the myth box into it?
[15:21:31] Juski: asd26: experiment with different deinterlace settings. bob2x for xvmc, etc
[15:21:42] asd26: Juski i have
[15:21:55] asd26: off seems best
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[15:22:08] asd26: i think tv can only do interlaced only
[15:22:20] Juski: if you have nvidia, crank up the flicker filtering a tad ;-)
[15:22:35] Juski: I don't deinterlace one bit & it looks fantastic
[15:22:41] stuarta: was this weekend crazy ticket weekend??
[15:22:44] Zider: ohh new driver
[15:22:47] hashbang: asd26: correct; standard def TV is interlaced or non-interlaced. It is not progressive scan, like VGA monitors
[15:22:48] Juski: no motion artifacts at all!
[15:22:59] Juski: stuarta: bank holiday / full moon ?
[15:23:12] stuarta: both i'd say...
[15:23:17] asd26: Juski same with me, it looks wonderful, but i has problems
[15:23:19] laga: what's the difference between non-interlaced and prorgressive scan?
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[15:23:41] Juski: hashbang: true, but vga cards' tv encoders can take progressive input & churn out interlaced display
[15:23:50] hashbang: laga: in the context of TV, non-interlaced is essentially interlaced, but with blank scanlines every other line.
[15:24:38] hashbang: Juski: yeah, but that's gonna be horrid because there's no guarantee that the fields in the recording will match the displayed fields
[15:24:41] laga: hashbang: so, usually half resolution? kinda what the onefield filter does?
[15:24:57] ** hashbang doesn't use deinterlace **
[15:25:04] hashbang: my VGA card outputs native PAL50.
[15:25:06] asd26: dvd's look nice
[15:25:59] laga: hashbang: heh. my cable doesn't work correctly yet :)
[15:26:08] hashbang: laga: :-(
[15:26:31] hashbang: laga: have you tried it with more than one TV?
[15:26:35] laga: hashbang: i'll fix it soon.
[15:26:40] laga: hashbang: no, not yet.
[15:26:43] hashbang: e.g. an old Amiga/Atari monitor...
[15:26:58] hashbang: laga: also, the modelines on the nexus site were wrong, for me.
[15:27:19] hashbang: laga: also, check X's log to make sure that it's really using the modeline you think it is.
[15:28:14] laga: hashbang: it does. i think i also tried yours. anyways, i won't have time this week to fix it (new toy coming and school work), but i hope to get it working before summer ;)
[15:28:31] hashbang: laga: good luck. You'll be pleased when you do.
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[15:29:52] laga: hashbang: i've got a new frontend coming to me that'll do RGB natively (at least i hope so) :)
[15:31:29] asd26: dam dvd won't play on my dvd plater
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[15:50:04] quitte_: hi. now i got mythtv working but i have no clue how i assign channel num bers properlz so that the epg works and i dont have to guess which channel is which
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[15:55:58] laga: quitte_: /join #mythtv-de :)
[15:56:09] laga: in case you're german, that is
[16:00:23] Juski: time to go home to see if I had a delivery today :-)
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[16:00:31] Merlin83b: What you expecting, Juski?
[16:00:43] Juski: t-vision s100 box
[16:00:49] Merlin83b: Ah, cool
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[16:01:17] Juski: good prospect for experimental frontend that laga is gonna help me get working ;-)
[16:01:25] Merlin83b: Heh
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[16:01:34] Juski: if I don't get there 1st that is
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[16:02:05] Juski: it's not bad enough that it's unknown hardware to me – all the docs are in German
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[16:02:34] Juski: anyhow... laters all :)
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[16:03:26] quitte_: laga: my english is rather good but if you are going to help me there – fine
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[16:06:32] laga: well. juski hopes that i'm gonna help him... :P
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[16:06:48] laga: and i'm gonna get seriously mad if he gets his s100 before i get mine.
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[16:28:13] enyc: does mythtv/mythburn 0.19+fixes (soon to be 0.19.1) support dual-layer dvd-recording assuping appopriate growisofs tools etc. there?
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[16:40:48] darthy: can anyone help me please?
[16:41:01] darthy: im totally stuck.
[16:43:49] enyc: maybe
[16:44:08] enyc: (but im not an expert)
[16:44:54] Juski: darthy: just post a question for goodness' sake
[16:45:30] VlivE: having trouble getting twinhan remote to work with lirc
[16:45:41] VlivE: using: dev/input driver
[16:45:57] VlivE: anyone have experience on this?
[16:46:04] ** Juski checks and finds this isn't #lirc **
[16:46:15] darthy: oops
[16:46:16] darthy: sorry
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[16:46:23] darthy: here comes my problem:
[16:46:32] enyc: hrrm you may not have the right /dev/input/event? selected of course....
[16:46:36] darthy: i have a wintv nova se2 and s plus
[16:46:45] enyc: check dmesg for details... discuss further in #lirc ;-)
[16:46:48] darthy: in dmesg there are timeouts like:
[16:46:48] Juski: VlivE: loads of howto guides for twinhan stuff out there – have you been following any?
[16:46:56] darthy: cx8802_timeout, cx8802_stop_dma, restarting queue, cx8802_restart_queue .... and so on
[16:46:59] VlivE: now of cource I have
[16:47:09] VlivE: I only come here when I'm stumped
[16:47:10] VlivE: :)
[16:47:29] Juski: darthy: that's not a dvb-s2 card is it?
[16:47:35] enyc: darthy: hrrw i hdont really know about that, not having my own dev/input based remote working yet ;-)
[16:47:41] darthy: i cannot capture.. all data is null-data. szap seems to work
[16:47:42] enyc: darthy: sorry... ;-)
[16:48:12] Juski: darthy: I saw earlier you said that you're trying dvbstream... I never had any luck with it
[16:48:39] Juski: only ever had experience with tzap but it's pretty similar to szap I think
[16:48:52] VlivE: I put my twinhan lircd.conf in /etc and also in /root/.mythtv as lircrc
[16:49:00] darthy: i have mythtv installed correctly i think.. but i always get a blackscreen.. coz my cards cannto capture
[16:49:16] darthy: cannot
[16:49:28] Juski: get a channels.conf using 'scan' (or dvbscan), then use szap with the channel name.. then do mplayer /dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0
[16:49:35] darthy: i have v4l installed... posted some questions in their chan.. but no reply
[16:49:53] VlivE: darthy install dvbsnoop
[16:49:55] Juski: darthy: in mythtv-setup did you set the tuner card up as a DVB card?
[16:50:10] darthy: hmmm
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[16:50:13] Juski: and did you scan for channels?
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[16:50:20] darthy: i scanned the chans
[16:50:25] darthy: using scan
[16:50:26] Juski: and?
[16:50:36] Juski: no – scan the channels using mythtv-setup
[16:50:36] darthy: then imported channels.conf
[16:50:46] Juski: that doesn't always work
[16:50:50] darthy: that gives me a parameter error
[16:51:03] darthy: i have to put in some frequencies that i dont know
[16:51:05] Juski: try 0.19-fixes or SVN – many improvements have been made
[16:51:19] VlivE: darthy wait I have your solution
[16:51:31] darthy: ? :)
[16:51:32] Juski: trouble is we don't see many people in here who have DVB-S experience
[16:52:19] Juski: VlivE: outside of mythtv, does irw work?
[16:52:30] darthy: i hope someone can help.. its been hard enough to install all .. and now its not working .. :/ grrr
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[16:52:39] Juski: don't panic!
[16:52:41] migiel: i've got some problems with the programguide, i can see the programs, but they're not coupled to my channels... what can i do about this?
[16:52:46] Kelerion: afternoon all
[16:52:48] ** Kelerion looks around and panics **
[16:52:51] VlivE: ok darthy
[16:52:52] Juski: afternoon Kelerion
[16:52:53] darthy: Vlive> whats the solution to my prob?
[16:52:55] VlivE: install dvbsnoop
[16:52:55] darthy: yes?
[16:52:59] darthy: i have it
[16:53:00] VlivE: http://pastebin.ca/54902
[16:53:06] VlivE: run this perl script
[16:53:17] VlivE: change the user to your myth user
[16:53:55] VlivE: mysql -u mythtv -pmythtv mythconverg < scan.log
[16:54:02] VlivE: update your database
[16:54:05] VlivE: your good to go
[16:54:23] Juski: VlivE: but he's not using that satellite service
[16:54:37] VlivE: well he could alter it
[16:54:48] Juski: you reckon? he's pretty new
[16:54:48] laga: Juski: got your new toy?
[16:54:52] Juski: laga: naw
[16:55:05] laga: Juski: heh
[16:55:05] Juski: (sniffle)
[16:55:08] laga: :/
[16:55:15] laga: Juski: you could already build that vga cable.
[16:55:30] Juski: yeah I'll dig the plans out at work tomorrow
[16:55:32] darthy: vlive> thanx
[16:55:39] darthy: but whats the script doing?
[16:55:56] darthy: and do i need to drop alll my chan data which is currently in the db?
[16:55:56] Juski: darthy: I think you don't wanna be using that script
[16:56:25] darthy: whats it for?
[16:56:27] Juski: if you dont use dishnetwork at any rate
[16:56:37] darthy: whats that?
[16:56:49] Juski: DN == american satellite provider
[16:56:54] laga: just help the devs fix dvb scanning instead ;)
[16:56:57] darthy: i have astra 19 satelite
[16:57:06] Ryushin: How do I output the test color lines on the ivtv driver?
[16:57:21] darthy: ok.. so this wouldnt help i guess
[16:57:28] Juski: darthy: stop trying to get the card working in mythtv would be my advice
[16:57:35] laga: darthy: we've got some people using astra over in #mythtv-de – so if you really are from bielefeld, you might get some help over there
[16:57:47] Juski: use szap & get some video coming out of /dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0
[16:57:57] darthy: im currently in bielefeld! :)
[16:58:11] darthy: :)) no joke
[16:58:22] Juski: what I'm saying is prove the card is working before getting confused trying to make myth work with it ;-)
[16:58:30] laga: darthy: that's what THEY tell you.
[16:58:35] darthy: yes.. for sure
[16:58:49] darthy: im always trying with szap and dvbstream.. but no luck yet
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[16:58:58] Juski: dvbstream is pants
[16:59:04] darthy: could be something with my firmware of the wintv nova se2/s plus
[16:59:14] darthy: so.. whats better?
[16:59:35] Juski: szap can do the same job if you give it a channels.conf file to work from... or at least that is what I _assume_ because tzap does
[16:59:38] darthy: k.. ill use mplayer /dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0
[16:59:47] Kelerion: Ryushin: try adding test_image=1 to your modprobe (but I might be thinking of another card)
[17:00:08] darthy: i have scanned astra using scan and generated a channels.conf.. which seems fine
[17:00:16] ** Juski sends out an EMP to kill all the pvr350 cards in the world **
[17:00:18] darthy: szap tunes also correctly i think
[17:00:29] darthy: but theres no data coming out of /dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0
[17:00:33] darthy: just zeros
[17:00:40] darthy: very very strange
[17:00:51] darthy: its not a real mpeg stream
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[17:00:58] Juski: darthy: make sure you're zapping to a FTA channel
[17:01:08] darthy: whats FTA ?
[17:01:14] psofa: free to air
[17:01:16] Juski: free to air
[17:01:16] darthy: sure
[17:01:18] laga: darthy: bible tv? free to air. no pay tv.
[17:01:21] Juski: unencrypted
[17:01:23] darthy: i used ORF1
[17:01:31] darthy: and ZDF
[17:01:36] darthy: thats free
[17:01:49] darthy: whats really strange is that the kernel gives me msges like:
[17:01:54] Juski: so that card needs firmware?
[17:01:57] darthy: cx88[0]/2: cx8802_timeout
[17:02:04] darthy: cx88[0]/2: cx8802_stop_dma
[17:02:05] darthy: cx88[0]/2: restarting queue
[17:02:05] darthy: cx88[0]/2: cx8802_restart_queue
[17:02:05] darthy: cx88[0]/2: cx8802_restart_queue: queue is empty
[17:02:11] psofa: darthy, these errors dont mean anything
[17:02:15] psofa: i have them also
[17:02:20] darthy: ahh..really?
[17:02:21] psofa: i asked v4l and said they are harmless
[17:02:21] Juski: darthy: I once saw a problem like that when I forgot to put DMA into my kernel
[17:02:27] darthy: ok
[17:02:40] Juski: or maybe it was something else – it was such a long time ago now
[17:02:41] darthy: i have dma in the kernel
[17:02:49] darthy: hmm
[17:02:59] darthy: try to remember.. this could be it!
[17:03:15] darthy: i also thought that it could be something missing in my kernel config
[17:03:23] Juski: could be
[17:03:32] Juski: does szap report that it gets a lock?
[17:04:37] darthy: FE_HAS_LOCK
[17:04:46] darthy: this stands there
[17:05:02] darthy: full line would be:
[17:05:02] darthy: status 1f | signal f300 | snr ffdc | ber 00000000 | unc 00000000 | FE_HAS_LOCK
[17:05:29] Juski: that;s good
[17:05:33] darthy: in field 4 and 5 there are mostly zeros
[17:05:47] Juski: frontend is locked, so I'd guess the firmware is good
[17:05:58] darthy: hmm.. ok
[17:06:03] Juski: I said _guess_
[17:06:12] darthy: illdo a test now with mplaye.. never did that before
[17:06:14] darthy: hang on
[17:08:55] Ryushin: Kelerion: yea, I added it to saa7127 module. But it still doesn't show the lines.
[17:09:18] Kelerion: don't know then.. sorry.. never tried it
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[17:10:25] Kelerion: wow.. didn't know nokia made a "luxury" model.. it's gold with diamonds! lol
[17:11:15] Juski: mobile phone bling... do the diamonds spell out "rob me!" ?
[17:11:29] Kelerion: lol.. check out google for "vertu"
[17:11:46] Juski: smaller diamonds clusters might say "rob my wallet too, but all my cards are maxxed out"
[17:11:56] ** Kelerion chuckles **
[17:13:15] kormoc: Juski, that's okay, this one guy is making a life sized skull in platinum and encased in diamonds
[17:13:50] Kelerion: http://www.goldsmiths.co.uk/bin/venda?ex=co_d . . . f=goldsmiths
[17:14:00] Juski: make a nice end for a walking stick I suppose
[17:14:03] Kelerion: 2900 for a bloody mobile phone! lol
[17:14:27] Juski: get robbed & it'd be bloody :-P
[17:14:41] Kelerion: lol
[17:14:44] kormoc: Juski, it's only around 19 million dollars or so...
[17:15:06] Juski: kormoc: put me down for 5 then
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[17:15:40] Kelerion: "data cable is sold seperately"!!!!
[17:16:19] kormoc: Juski, sure thing, just send the cash to kormoc, seattle washington, 98188, and I'll send you your 5 skulls in the mail, so expect them 3 to 5 weeks after I receive the money...
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[17:16:48] Juski: cool. reckon araldite will hold one onto the bonnet of my car?
[17:17:00] kormoc: sure
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[17:18:43] Kelerion: so next time some smart ass in the pub starts bragging about the 300 quid he spent on the latest nokia... ya can tell him it's crap.. lol
[17:20:23] armand: i wish our money was quid
[17:20:27] armand: thats such a cool name
[17:20:31] armand: stupid 'dollars'
[17:20:37] ** Kelerion cuckles **
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[17:24:29] xris: armand: better to have money that shares its name with a unit of weight measurement?
[17:24:48] armand: the slang is better
[17:24:53] armand: quid is just slang isnt it
[17:24:59] xris: so is "buck"
[17:25:05] armand: yeah, buck sucks too :)
[17:25:13] armand: quid just sounds so much cooler :)
[17:25:17] armand: or rupies, that would be neat too
[17:25:21] armand: be like living in legend of zelda
[17:25:28] xris: lol
[17:25:35] xris: you'd then need to learn what a crore is.
[17:25:36] Kelerion: if yer a cockney you might call it a "bin lid"
[17:26:07] GreyFoxx: Any ATI video card users around ?
[17:26:21] armand: a crore is alot!
[17:26:24] Kelerion: to my great despair yeah
[17:26:38] armand: greyfoxx: i use a radeon9500pro on one of my mythfrontends
[17:26:40] xris: armand: yes.
[17:27:07] Kelerion: have an x300 and x800 in this machine... which is why it's running windows
[17:27:16] armand: hah
[17:27:37] armand: kelerion: no luck with fglrx?
[17:27:43] GreyFoxx: I've got a Radeon 7000 pci card I'm installing in a machine, and looking at ATI's site for the Linux drivers doesn't really help me with which of the various links I should be grabning
[17:27:49] Ryushin: GreyFoxx: I was up until last Friday and about two weeks prior to that.
[17:27:59] Kelerion: not with 3 monitors, no.. best I can get it 2 and the 3rd is a mirroe
[17:28:02] Kelerion: mirror
[17:28:04] armand: greyfgoxx: the 30meg download
[17:28:26] armand: ati-driver-installer-8.24.8-x86.run or whatever they're up to now
[17:28:29] Ryushin: GreyFoxx: Why not use the stock x.org radeon driver?
[17:28:32] GreyFoxx: xris: I have that stuff written btw, I just need to sit down some time you and I are both on and go over how I'm marking them
[17:28:50] GreyFoxx: Ryushin: Having some XV related issues and I want to try the ATI driver to see if it has the same problem
[17:28:51] Ryushin: Worked fine for me except for the 1080i limitation for XV.
[17:29:17] armand: on my radeon9500pro the tvout wouldnt work with the included xorg driver
[17:29:21] armand: had to use ati's, worked fine
[17:29:47] Ryushin: The 9250 is the newest card that works with the radeon driver.
[17:29:49] GreyFoxx: I'm using it in a dual head/xinerama setup, and if I click on another window, even on the same screen the video display goes to solid blue. Changing window focus around keeps bringing it back and forth
[17:29:59] xris: GreyFoxx: sounds good. maybe tonight?
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[17:30:30] GreyFoxx: Yeah, seems to work well. I modded my mythweb to check the new field
[17:31:15] GreyFoxx: takes just a few seconds to process when mythfilldb runs too which is nice
[17:31:26] xris: cool
[17:31:43] xris: is there an easy way to get it to check using the proper dupcheck method?
[17:31:50] GreyFoxx: now that it;s written I can change the requirements for parking easily
[17:31:57] GreyFoxx: nothing I could see really
[17:32:18] GreyFoxx: but honestly I didn't spend copious amounts of time searching the code for how the scheduler does it
[17:32:24] xris: ok. maybe sphery can do that himself once your stuff goes in.
[17:32:51] GreyFoxx: I also updated places that were updating oldrecorded to also update the program table record where appropriate
[17:32:52] GreyFoxx: yeah
[17:32:57] xris: cool
[17:33:14] GreyFoxx: I'm sure it will need to eb tweaked
[17:33:26] GreyFoxx: but it took my programs listing from 20–30 seconds down to like 2 :)
[17:33:32] xris: that's always nice
[17:34:56] GreyFoxx: I also added code to mark the recorded status in mythfilldb and existing immediately so that we don't have to do a full mythfilldb run for testing and marking :)
[17:35:02] GreyFoxx: exiting
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[17:37:15] Juski: has anything from the EIT branch been included in svn head yet?
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[17:37:59] _willcooke_: hello all
[17:38:19] Juski: hey _willcooke_
[17:38:35] GreyFoxx: Juski: I think there was a merge around 9957
[17:38:39] GreyFoxx: not sure about anything since
[17:38:51] Kelerion: just reading over the "resolved issues" part of the ati driver site.. looks like they've been busy since last time I looked (3–4 months ago) – might be time to try it all again
[17:38:56] Kelerion: hey willcooke
[17:39:23] _willcooke_: hello hello
[17:39:40] xris: GreyFoxx: nice
[17:40:27] Juski: GreyFoxx: reason I ask is that EIT data is hogging loads of CPU in 10056
[17:40:32] _willcooke_: Ok, so last night I was watching some gash on Sky Three about what to do if you catch someone in your house stealing your goodies (the general opinion was leave them well alone and call the police, durrrr), but it got me thinking.....
[17:41:28] Juski: 'tonight with Trevor McDoughnut' once had an ex-super on who said it'd be quite justifiable to kill an intruder if you feared for your safety!
[17:41:40] _willcooke_: ... a sort of panic button for mythtv. So, if you're being held hostage and you cant use the phone or something you punch in a code on your remote and your myth box emails/sms/phones whatever
[17:42:05] Juski: I could see that getting abused
[17:42:20] Juski: HELP! the desktop not fitting screen!
[17:42:22] _willcooke_: On this program they had an interview with a bloke who tried to defend himself with a hammer, ending up getting his head smashed in with the same hammer
[17:42:31] nero_office: Juski- if your life is in danger.. dont you think it is justifiable?
[17:42:42] Juski: nero_office: totally
[17:42:48] nero_office: good.. :)
[17:43:39] nero_office: Heck.. they can put me in danger, but one move towards the MythTV box that has about 86% of my life's hours for the past 3 years in it, then we have a problem..
[17:44:03] Juski: lol
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[17:44:11] janneg: Juski: the first part off load reducing eitscanner is in 9976 and lives only in the eit branch
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[17:44:22] fryfrog: i just read that myth got some SoC students this year, woo woo?
[17:44:26] Juski: janneg: that'd explain it then :-)
[17:44:36] nero_office: fryfrog, a bunch.. for all the projects they proposed!
[17:44:48] fryfrog: nice :)
[17:44:54] fryfrog: man, some of them looked *rough* too
[17:44:59] fryfrog: like the windows port one
[17:45:05] Juski: yeah well
[17:45:14] kormoc: ooh? I didn't know they found out how many google was gonna give them
[17:45:15] Juski: who cares about that hmm? ;-)
[17:45:16] fryfrog: if it is anything like G2's SoC from last year...
[17:45:20] nero_office: hopefuly this doesnt mean there has to be a google logo in the lower right corner when MyhtTV is running.. ;)
[17:45:46] fryfrog: The MythWeb UI sounds like a likely one to get done
[17:45:48] nero_office: kormoc, go to the SOC site, then click on "ideas" or whatever the link is for the mythtv proposed ideas..
[17:46:00] nero_office: they are all filled in with students now.
[17:46:06] fryfrog: a few of them sound to big to end up being finished
[17:46:18] Juski: rewrite the mythtv UI
[17:46:21] janneg: got stuck on the other parts of the scanner
[17:46:41] fryfrog: anyway, hope some good code comes out of it!
[17:46:43] nero_office: But, most of the projects said "Define a part of this project you want to complete"
[17:47:04] Dagmar: I'd like to see the menu atomized so that people can reorder the menus
[17:47:13] fryfrog: i need to get back into my myth and get hdtv working :(
[17:47:14] Dagmar: I was a little irked that "Watch TV" is no longer a top-level menu item
[17:47:15] Juski: janneg: that was something else about 10056. my local transmitter has offsets – channels were all scanned fine but dtv_multiplex ended up with wrong frequencies in it
[17:47:36] Juski: Dagmar: eh? which theme are you using?
[17:47:38] laga: Dagmar: you can already reorder the menus. and for me, "watch tv" is a top-level item
[17:47:40] fryfrog: i've been using my crappy comcast / samsung dvr cause it does HD :(
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[17:47:49] Dagmar: laga: What do you mess with to change them?
[17:47:52] fryfrog: stupid cable
[17:47:55] nero_office: (ex- for the Myth UI bit, said "so a student working on this project could choose whatever sections of the existing UI presentation code they'd like to rewrite – a few plugins, some of the core UI code, etc."
[17:48:00] Dagmar: ...or is that theme-controlled and i didn't notice it
[17:48:11] laga: Dagmar: uh, some .xml file. dunno :)
[17:48:13] Juski: fryfrog: I think we have comcast to thank for the very existence of mythtv ;-)
[17:48:14] fryfrog: nero_office: i saw that :)
[17:48:21] laga: Dagmar: not really theme controlled. there are menu themes, though.
[17:48:22] Dagmar: laga: Good enough. I know how to use find
[17:48:33] laga: Dagmar: take a look at wiki.mythtv.org
[17:48:42] Dagmar: Oh I've been all over the WIki in the last few days
[17:48:47] Dagmar: I've been building Slackware packages for the lot
[17:48:52] nero_office: I hope that the SoC guys dont bite off more than they can chew.. as that would just end up leaving the project with uncompleted code that may never get used.
[17:48:56] Dagmar: I can't believe I forgot MPlayer
[17:48:57] Dagmar: Heh
[17:48:57] janneg: Juski: have you seen the mail to dev list saying that the NIT can't be trusted in UK anymore
[17:49:10] Dagmar: I was like "Why the heck won't my videos play?"
[17:49:11] nero_office: Dagmar, did you lookin your appearance settings?
[17:49:18] Dagmar: nero_office: Yes.
[17:49:20] xris: nero_office: how is that different from the current state of things like mfd?
[17:49:23] nero_office: there is an option to change the menu layout/type.
[17:49:32] Juski: janneg: yes I did.
[17:49:33] kormoc: nero_office, nah, it's all projects that are planned to be done in the future sometime anyway, so any code heading that way is a good thing.
[17:49:42] Dagmar: nero_office: The three-option thing?
[17:49:48] janneg: stuarta's scanning patches rely on correct NIT and SDT
[17:49:55] Juski: oh feck
[17:49:57] nero_office: xris, ;) I guess I'd just like to see some changes come sooner than later..
[17:50:10] janneg: so that's maybe part of the problem
[17:50:13] nero_office: Dagmar, yeah.. it has classic/DVR/something else??
[17:50:24] Juski: at the risk of sounding obvious can we not just do what the dvbutils do?
[17:50:29] Dagmar: I'm going to have *so much fun* going back through and figuring out which perl packages I need to packagize.
[17:50:48] nero_office: I think "classic" has Watch TV in a sub menu, as it used to be back in 0.14?? (if I am remembering right..)
[17:51:08] Dagmar: nero_office: Yeah, that's the one I noticed. Most of the configuration menus are so arcane it might as well have said "Peanut Butter, Lacross, and Aromatic"
[17:51:26] Juski: janneg: I'm not convinced it's the NIT issue. if it'll help I can do a tzap & dvbsnoop
[17:51:27] janneg: Juski: dvbscan gives correct frequencies? then it's an error
[17:51:28] nero_office: I'd take Aromatic..
[17:51:36] Dagmar: nero_office: ...but that's another clue for what I can tamper with without dipping into the C++ code, so it's useful info
[17:52:16] nero_office: Dagmar, take a look at the "install" code for "Mythstream".. it tells you how to edit where/which menu you put mythstream in..
[17:52:27] Dagmar: At some point I am definitely going to have to make a CGI for a less insane way to configure the box
[17:52:36] nero_office: so if you want to "hardcode" it, it is just a matter of changing some xml in the shared directory.
[17:52:47] Dagmar: Yeah, XML I have no problems with at all, actually.
[17:52:53] Dagmar: I'm right at home with data abstractions
[17:53:31] Dagmar: I could probably redo the whole Dropline build system with XML and Perl, but people would go berzerk about it. Heh
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[17:53:46] Dagmar: "OMG how complex do you need to make building stuff?!?!"
[17:53:49] Juski: janneg: just done a dvbscan – it gets the right freqs
[17:53:50] janneg: Juski: yeah, tune to some channel and use dvbsnoop -n 5 -nph -m 0xff -f 0x40 0x10
[17:53:53] Dagmar: Volkerding's head would just explode
[17:54:10] laga: hehe
[17:54:12] Dagmar: XMl for building software != simple
[17:54:59] hashbang: rpm was planning on going to XML spec files some 4 years ago
[17:55:17] Juski: janneg: even using -n with dvbscan I still get the right freqs
[17:55:23] Kelerion: what the hell does "Automated Lexical Disambiguation in Machine Translation with Latent Semantic Analysis"
[17:55:34] Kelerion: mean??
[17:55:34] Dagmar: hashbang: I imagine the holdup there was that XML files can get ugly with their massive tree of DTDs
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[17:56:03] Juski: oh shit that reminds me. I still need the perl dependencies for the mythvideo scripts to work on my demo box :-/
[17:56:04] Dagmar: Kelerion: It's what you're doing when you look at that quoted phrase, but with more code overhead.
[17:56:06] hashbang: Kelerion: dunno about the Latent Semantic Analysis part
[17:56:32] Dagmar: Juski: You're going to have FUN with that. BTW, XML::Simple is needed for the IMDB lookups, and nothing seems to check for it
[17:56:38] Kelerion: you mean it means trying to figure out what a phrase means?
[17:56:40] hashbang: Kelerion: but it sounds like automatic extraction of unambiguous meaning from machine-translated material.
[17:56:44] Dagmar: Kelerion: yep
[17:56:50] Juski: Dagmar: I've done it once before – cpan was a great help
[17:56:55] Dagmar: God I love CPAN
[17:57:04] Kelerion: ahh.. okies.. thanks :)
[17:57:09] Juski: why the fuck it's not listed in build-deps I dunno though
[17:57:14] Dagmar: I'm kinda suprised more people don't even know you can do a "use CPAN;" at the top of a program
[17:57:48] Dagmar: ...but that's probably because most people would get upset at the idea that running a perl program could result in 20Mb of dependencies being installed into their homedir
[17:58:16] Juski: janneg: the most striking thing about the scanning issue in 10056 was that some of the freqs were off by only 10Hz
[17:58:24] janneg: Juski: I'm not sure wheter you have NIT other or not
[17:58:45] Juski: janneg: been down that road with stuarta the other week – I don't
[17:58:57] janneg: Juski: can you paste the output of dvbsnoop
[17:59:03] Juski: yeh will do
[17:59:36] Dagmar: I found out the hard way this morning that *clearly* not all TVoutputs are created equal
[17:59:58] janneg: ok, dvbscan -n won't change anything if you don't have NIT other
[17:59:59] Dagmar: Gotta go buy a chipset cooler for my 5200 now, since the output on the MX400 I tried to cheap out with sucks large
[18:00:29] hashbang: Dagmar: are you in europe?
[18:00:35] Dagmar: Nope
[18:00:41] hashbang: meh.
[18:00:57] ** hashbang was gonna bang on about VGA->RGB Scart adaptors. :-) **
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[18:01:22] hashbang: I use a bottom-of-the-range MX400 from 4 years ago, and it's perfect with said adaptor.
[18:01:29] Dagmar: hashbang: I have something like that actually, which I should probably pull out and use
[18:01:41] Dagmar: it, at least, doesn't result in an inch of black space on both sides of the display
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[18:01:55] hashbang: (admittedly, the picture gets a bit wobbly at dotclocks near the minimum limit)
[18:02:20] hashbang: Dagmar: does your TV have a RGB Scart input or similar, then?
[18:02:33] Dagmar: hashbang: Nah, it's got Svideo and coax inputs
[18:02:50] Dagmar: It's over s-video that I'm getting blackspace on the screen. Crappy tv-output
[18:03:18] Dagmar: I've got to get an MMC cable and a SPDIF cable for my DVD unit anyway
[18:03:49] Dagmar: I might as well pick up an overpriced chipset fan while I'm at it.
[18:04:27] Dagmar: The fan died on my 5200 and I was looking online and saw I could just get a 32Mb GF2 MX 400 for four dollars less, so I went that route. Definitely a mistake.
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[18:05:37] hashbang: composite and svideo are both pretty shitty, IMHO
[18:05:52] Dagmar: S-video does a much better job than composite, actually
[18:06:12] enyc: svideo can work quite well with a good encoder/cable and good reciever...
[18:06:21] Dagmar: I spent $16 on the replacement video card. I should have known it was going to be substandard.
[18:06:26] enyc: but theres often something not-so-good in the list ;-)
[18:06:44] hashbang: Dagmar: yah, but analogue RGB rules all except the HDMI/DVI. :-)
[18:07:04] enyc: I am about to try the RGB-scart modeline-hack method... (done this some time ago fine ;-) )
[18:07:25] Dagmar: hashbang: Yep. Separate channels are a lot simpler for circuits to deal with
[18:07:46] enyc: of course there is YPbPr (same or very similar to YUV)
[18:07:51] Juski: janneg: http://pastebin.ca/59992
[18:08:39] Juski: janneg: here are the freqs the original scan (in mythtv) pulled out of the hat: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/206266
[18:09:00] quitte_: i get this when trying to watch livetv invalid file (fd 15) when opening '/var/lib/mythtv//1020_2006....mpg.
[18:09:46] stuarta: Juski: did you use full scan or a different method?
[18:09:51] Juski: stuarta: full scan
[18:10:13] stuarta: existing database or clean?
[18:10:25] Juski: stuarta: I deleted all the transports & channels
[18:11:14] stuarta: wonder if that is the freq reported by the driver.... :-/
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[18:12:22] Juski: could I help establish that somehow?
[18:12:54] Juski: this is why I have svn on the box after all – for testing
[18:13:22] Juski: I have my old 0.19-fixes DB backed up incase I need to roll back
[18:13:51] stuarta: just doing some code reading...
[18:14:10] Juski: okees. tea time.. back shortly-ish
[18:14:27] armand: 13161: /usr/bin/mythfrontend
[18:14:27] armand: Address Kbytes Mode Offset Device Mapping
[18:14:27] armand: 08048000 1140 r-x-- 0000000000000000 003:00003 mythfrontend
[18:14:27] armand: 08165000 8 rw--- 000000000011d000 003:00003 mythfrontend
[18:14:27] armand: 08167000 818000 rw--- 0000000008167000 000:00000 [ anon ]
[18:14:31] armand: haha holy crap
[18:14:31] Juski: if you need to disappear drop me a mail if there's anything you'd like me to try
[18:14:44] psofa: using latest svn frontend still randomly dies during channel changes
[18:14:52] stuarta: I'll be around for a bit
[18:14:55] Juski: k
[18:16:46] psofa: Juski, is your fe stable?
[18:16:46] stuarta: armand: use pastebin next time please.....
[18:16:46] ** stuarta needs to implement retrieving tuning param from the card.. **
[18:17:14] armand: woops, sorry
[18:17:20] armand: thats a hellava leak
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[18:19:36] stuarta: armand: we are looking for that leak.... :)
[18:19:44] armand: oh excellent
[18:19:49] armand: you guys rock
[18:19:55] armand: stuff gets fixed so fast heh
[18:20:09] stuarta: ie. feel free to help look for it..
[18:20:22] armand: i kind of suck
[18:21:14] armand: whats a good way to get my feet wet looking for it? hehe
[18:21:21] armand: <-- bored today.
[18:21:33] Kelerion: armand: you a nas expert?
[18:21:39] kormoc: armand, could try valgrind
[18:21:58] stuarta: frontend is nigh on impossible to valgrind
[18:22:05] psofa: anyone knows how do i disable eit data retrieving
[18:22:07] kormoc: stuarta, ooh?
[18:22:47] stuarta: kormoc: too much stuff is timing dependant
[18:22:55] kormoc: ahh, fair nuff
[18:23:00] stuarta: psofa: with current svn you can't
[18:23:07] armand: stuarta: any recommendations?
[18:23:56] psofa: stevenh, doesnt it check the useonairguide things?
[18:24:31] stuarta: ivor: did you ever finish your memory checker?
[18:25:16] stuarta: psofa: oh wait a sec, juski mentioned that it seems to collect eit data even on a datasource not configured for it...
[18:25:57] psofa: only one way to check it out :)
[18:27:46] janneg: stuarta, Juski: http://pastebin.ca/59999 the errorsare strange
[18:28:39] psofa: ive waited 60 secs after disabling all this stuff
[18:28:43] Kelerion: damn.. missed it.. tried to get pastebin.ca/60000 and got 60001.. lol
[18:28:48] psofa: and the backend doesnt seem to search for eit
[18:28:54] psofa: i think i got rid of it
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[18:29:42] stuarta: janneg: the slight differences can be accounted for by fine tuning.
[18:30:53] stuarta: armand: anything you can think of is worth a try.
[18:31:53] stuarta: janneg: the others are only different by 166kHz which is the offset used as the scanner walks the frequency list.
[18:33:26] stuarta: which makes me think the card manages to lock (when scanning) on a offset frequencies, but I don't believe the scanner is reading the tuning parameters back from the card.
[18:34:17] _willcooke_: Hmmm. Release notes says that computer temperature is now displayed in the system centre stats – not on my box it ain't – unless you need sensors set up and working before you compile it? I'll try it and see...
[18:34:21] _willcooke_: (svn that is)
[18:34:40] stuarta: you need to setup lm_sensors...
[18:34:46] _willcooke_: before compile?
[18:35:35] stuarta: not sure about that...
[18:35:41] _willcooke_: i'll try it and see
[18:35:45] psofa: before mythfrontend dies i get this [mpegts @ 0xb72e9ec0]Parser not found for Codec Id: 94211
[18:36:26] armand: stuarta: hrm ok.. but to be honest i dont even know where to start. valgrind looks like a good place, but you say its no good for debugging mythfrontned?
[18:37:03] stuarta: armand: if you have stupid amounts of cpu to burn it may work :)
[18:37:37] psofa: oh and i get some errors like this:
[18:37:39] psofa: 2006-05–30 21:37:48.370 Preview Error: Previewer file '/mnt/store/recordings/1603_20060530213747.mpg' is not valid
[18:37:41] armand: hrm actually i will once i get my new backend up. just waiting for ram to arrive
[18:38:03] armand: then an xp3200 i have will only be a frontend
[18:38:06] VlivE: anyone know lirc and twinhan remote?
[18:38:26] Kelerion: yup
[18:38:34] stuarta: psofa: the invalid codec is from the interactive tv stuff, not a problem.
[18:38:55] stuarta: armand: then you may have a chance...
[18:39:12] psofa: oh some more stuff just before fe dies
[18:39:18] psofa: [mpegts @ 0xb7383ec0]Could not find codec parameters (Video: mpeg2video)
[18:39:19] psofa: Closing PMT Filter: pid=0x452
[18:39:19] psofa: Closing PAT Filter: pid=0x0
[18:39:19] psofa: Killed
[18:40:11] stuarta: killed :-( set ulimit -c unlimited and then run the frontend from that window and it'll drop core
[18:40:13] Kelerion: VlivE: whats the problem?
[18:40:26] stuarta: psofa: then you can use gdb on the core.
[18:40:53] VlivE: can we take this to a pm?
[18:40:59] Kelerion: sure
[18:41:03] VlivE: k
[18:41:15] Kelerion: but it's logged here.. might be useful to someone
[18:43:10] ** xris wonders when Beirdo will get back from his honeymoon and start improving the bot again **
[18:43:21] psofa: stuarta, could you tell me how?
[18:43:34] stuarta: psofa: debugging the core?
[18:43:39] psofa: yes
[18:44:10] stuarta: gdb /path/to/mythfrontend core, then normally debugging commands.
[18:46:59] _willcooke_: silly question.. on my old myth system (before I had a hardware failure) watching live tv would always default to the card in the local machine (master fe), now for some reason it always defaults to the 2nd card in my slave BE. I've looked through the sql db but I cant find the setting. Anyone know what I should be looking for?
[18:50:02] stuarta: _willcooke_: it's to do with scheduling, something like avoid conflicts with live tv
[18:51:38] _willcooke_: so I should make the 2 cards in the slave a higher priority for recordings...
[18:52:20] stuarta: nope, there is an option which tells it to pick the tuner least likely to be needed for a recording, it's a simple checkbox....
[18:53:43] _willcooke_: ahh, ok – i'll go look. Cheers
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[18:56:29] psofa: stuarta, may i say that i have no idea on what to do :P
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[18:57:31] stuarta: let me know when you have the corefile, also have a read of http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-22.html#ss22.2
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[19:03:17] Kelerion: hands up whose read "Cuckoo's Egg"
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[19:11:54] ivor: stuarta: pong
[19:12:08] ** stuarta holds his nose. **
[19:12:35] ivor: well I finished it far enough for me to use it.
[19:12:47] ivor: but haven't used it much since, so haven't enhanced it at all.
[19:12:50] stuarta: have you tried it on the frontend?
[19:12:58] ivor: not recently.
[19:13:10] psofa: stuarta, ah ok the link is helpfull
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[19:14:16] stuarta: psofa: obviously your situation is slightly different, but the part about getting information post crash applies.
[19:18:45] stuarta: ivor: cause the frontend has a leak which we haven't found yet.
[19:18:59] psofa: ah yes
[19:19:17] ivor: stuarta: oh ok. should be a breeze.
[19:19:20] psofa: i remember also that the memory gets eaten by mythfe
[19:19:36] ivor: stuarta: what's the behaviour/size of memory?
[19:19:41] ** stuarta thought he just said that... **
[19:20:12] stuarta: ivor: after watching a number of programs the memory size blows out. I've seen 700Mb....
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[19:21:51] ivor: hmmm. mines been sitting stable at 340mb for days.
[19:22:04] armand: the only thing ive noticed with the memory problem is that it seems to increase with the number of recordings watched..
[19:22:08] ivor: is this only with a recent change? any ideas what triggers it?
[19:22:27] armand: if you leave the frontend, and dont watch anything, the memory size stays the same.
[19:22:32] stuarta: ivor: been there at least 4–6 weeks.
[19:22:41] ivor: armand: obviously watching stuff. :)
[19:22:51] armand: ivor: ive noticed it since release of 0.19
[19:22:54] psofa: lmao
[19:23:12] psofa: btw anyone tried nvidia 8762?
[19:23:17] ivor: weird. mines fine.
[19:23:17] CowboyCoder: Hey all, i'm looking for a way to make a MPEG stream (from a remote machine) to look like a tuner, any suggestions?
[19:23:24] stuarta: my usage is start fe, (watch, delete, repeat), stop fe
[19:24:35] sphery: CowboyCoder: the new HD Homerun recorder stuff does something like that...
[19:24:37] watson540: does anyone here use the ATI GATOS drivers for all in wonder cards?
[19:24:44] laga: CowboyCoder: sounds difficult. take a look at the ip recorder / iptv stuff in trac: svn.mythtv.org. good luck. you'll have to do lots of reading and likely some coding
[19:24:54] armand: i have 2 full-time fe's, one in the bedroom, one in the living room. the living room gets by-far more usage than the bedroom.. i need to restart fe in the living room every few days, or the fe itself gets slow with swapping (only 512meg in that fe and its combo backend)
[19:25:13] CowboyCoder: not a problem, thanks :-)
[19:25:13] armand: in contrast, the fe in the bedroom has gotten restarted only a couple times in the last month
[19:25:14] sphery: watson540: ATI cards can't be used for video capture with Myth
[19:25:32] sphery: They don't support the standard capture interface (Video4Linux)
[19:25:45] laga: CowboyCoder: the dbox2 recorder stuff might also be of some interest.
[19:25:46] sphery: You could use it for output on a frontend, though.
[19:25:49] watson540: i see.
[19:25:58] ** watson540 needs a cheap hardware card **
[19:26:06] sphery: I highly recommend the PVR-150
[19:26:07] kormoc: pvr150
[19:26:08] ivor: stuarta: hmm. does it slowly trickle up?
[19:26:31] watson540: i want an older bt878 or cx878 chip to start..those pvr models are expensive
[19:26:34] sphery: If you get the MCE version without remote, you can find it for about $60, but it's well worth the extra $30 over a framegrabber
[19:26:54] stuarta: ivor: i'll keep an eye on the one I'm running now, but I don't think so...
[19:27:02] ivor: thanks.
[19:27:02] kormoc: watson540, the 150 is only around $60 or so
[19:27:20] kormoc: watson540, and when you look at $20 to $30 for a frame grabber, $60 isn't that much more
[19:27:26] ivor: stuarta: using mheg? pip or anything funky?
[19:27:35] kormoc: watson540, and the bttv cards are not hardware cards
[19:27:38] watson540: ill look aroun, last i looked at circuit city they were like 120 ux
[19:27:44] stuarta: ivor: extensive use of timestretch
[19:27:56] watson540: how can bt878 not be a hadrwar card?1
[19:28:00] ivor: right. I'll try that myself.
[19:28:27] kormoc: watson540, it is a frame grabber, it only outputs raw frames, and the cpu encodes them into the video format (myth stupports mjpeg and mpeg-4)
[19:28:30] stuarta: hmmm, this one's not growing, but I'm not stretching for a change...
[19:28:30] sphery: watson540: bt878 uses software encoding. It's not a hardware encoder.
[19:28:36] sphery: watson540: http://www.buy.com/prod/WINTV_PVR_150_MCE_NON . . . 2550762.html
[19:28:38] sphery: $56
[19:28:46] watson540: awesome..
[19:29:25] watson540: heh, they're sold out..
[19:30:38] sphery: oops. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000E65HOO/s . . . ncoding=UTF8
[19:30:39] kormoc: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815116620
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[19:30:46] kormoc: $65 at newegg
[19:30:52] sphery: Amazon's is also $56
[19:31:24] sphery: (actually $0.50 less than buy.com's)
[19:31:29] watson540: cool, ive been wanting a linuxcompatible tv tuner for years
[19:31:42] watson540: been holding out for cheaper ones, i guess now is the ti me
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[19:39:05] psofa: btw stuarta just tried a remote mythfe .It will kill both the fe and the backend
[19:39:30] stuarta: oooo
[19:42:32] armand: ivor: i dont use timestretch at all, i see the memory leak problem
[19:42:40] armand: ivo: today one of my fe's was 900meg hehe
[19:43:49] armand: ivor: it was up 5days, the girlfriend watched alot of shows on it over the weekend
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[19:44:14] armand: suarta: are you useing xvmc?
[19:44:20] stuarta: nope
[19:44:23] armand: me niether
[19:44:30] armand: ivor: maybe there's that too.
[19:45:36] ivor: hmm nothing but xvmc here.
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[19:46:42] ** ivor hunts around for a machine that will run without xvmc. **
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[19:49:06] armand: yeah im hunting around for that wiki link for getting some nvidia cards to work with xvmc that show grescale osd and stuff. i read it, just didnt do it
[19:49:23] armand: then try and leave that frontend open for a while instead of closing it after every program (on my desktop)
[19:49:33] armand: the ones that are easy to see the problem on are the real tvs hehe
[19:49:41] armand: but ones a gf4 that hates xvmc and the others an ati
[19:51:13] armand: stuarta: you useing ffmpeg? if so what version
[19:52:38] stuarta: what do you mean? myth internaly uses ffmpeg libs, plus I also have ffmpeg head installed...
[19:53:59] armand: myth doesnt use system ffmpeg for playback?
[19:54:34] GreyFoxx: "system ffmpeg" ?
[19:55:01] GreyFoxx: myth uses the libavcodec/avformat libraries as well as an option libmpeg2 decoder
[19:57:23] sphery: Speaking of which, GreyFoxx, does MythArchive use the myth libs, too?
[19:57:32] FairWtns: Anyone have a line flicker problem? Somewhere along the line, I started getting random lines appearing quickly accross the screen. nvidia GFMX based card.
[19:57:34] GreyFoxx: I've never looked at it
[19:57:39] armand: i thought it used ffmpeg.. my mistake ;/
[19:58:03] sphery: The readme says you need ffmpeg 0.4.9-pre1, so it sounded like it uses the system one...
[19:58:08] GreyFoxx: armand: Same libraries, just myth;s own player
[19:58:33] sphery: I haven't installed it, yet, either. Figured I shouldn't waste time upgrading my current system when I'm planning a major rebuild...
[19:59:19] sphery: (BTW, armand, my comments relate only to the not-yet-released-and-in-heavy-development MythArchive)
[19:59:49] _nero_: MythArchive- the best thing EVER!!
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[20:00:16] ** sphery wishes I had the time to finish my major upgrade so I could see... **
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[20:00:57] FairWtns: _nero_:I'm still waiting for mytharchive to make it to 19.-fixes.
[20:01:42] armand: darnit, no xvmc compiled in
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[20:03:40] stuarta: FairWtns: never going to happen
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[20:05:13] sphery: But it will make it to 0.20.  ;)
[20:05:35] maniacxs: which encoding should the text for a translation be?
[20:05:45] ** stuarta is really going to like 0.20 **
[20:06:46] Niklas_E: after updateing the driver and mythtv, I can't watch tv on the v4l-card, it just prints something like read and write. I thnk there been some errors ot something in the database, is there any way to fix this with some command?
[20:06:53] stuarta: maniacxs: you thinking of doing a new translation?
[20:07:00] maniacxs: stuarta: yes
[20:07:09] maniacxs: stuarta: it is for mytharchive
[20:07:27] stuarta: search the -dev archive's, mentions all the tools etc that are useful.
[20:08:45] FairWtns: stuarta: Sad. I had a lot of troubles going .18->.19. I will be much more reluctant to go .20, although I know I will anyways. Dang flicker problem has got to have a fix.
[20:09:13] maniacxs: stuarta: thanks
[20:10:43] armand: fairwtns: next time, make a backup of your db right before you make install
[20:10:58] armand: hold that, play around, if you have problems its very easy to revert... as long as you have a copy of the old db.
[20:11:23] stuarta: FairWtns: there was a lot of stuff that couldn't be worked without 0.19 coming out
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[20:23:46] maniacxs: stuarta: there was noting about the encoding to use :(
[20:24:15] stuarta: it's more about the tools to use which does it all for you.
[20:25:13] maniacxs: ok.
[20:25:54] stuarta: the encoding is utf8 btw.
[20:26:16] sphery: maniacxs: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/203391#203391
[20:26:18] sphery: whole thread
[20:26:19] laga: i usually use qt-linguist. it's nice.
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[20:26:45] maniacxs: i used vi ...
[20:27:06] stuarta: that's painful
[20:27:09] laga: humm. yep.
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[20:27:43] Juski: re
[20:27:52] stuarta: yo
[20:27:53] laga: IMHO, qt should do everything for you. just load the .ts file into qt-linguist. and add an entry for you translation to i18n.pro or whatchamacallit
[20:27:56] laga: Juski: sup?
[20:28:07] stuarta: beer?
[20:28:17] laga: yummy.
[20:28:25] Juski: laga: not much. just been catching up on some mythtv watching. that 300gb I deleted a while back is creeping back
[20:28:32] laga: Juski: hehe :)
[20:28:42] stuarta: same...
[20:28:47] Juski: need a clone
[20:28:54] laga: mr. brewski says: beer is good.
[20:29:04] laga: Juski: clone is gonna take care of the wife, you'll do mythtv?
[20:29:11] Juski: rofl
[20:29:20] Juski: clone can go to work while I do the rest
[20:29:40] laga: heh
[20:29:49] sphery: Homer had the opposite problem--he and all the clones fought over taking care of the wife...
[20:30:06] laga: marge ain't that pretty.
[20:30:19] sphery: love is blind :)
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[20:30:28] corpix: hi
[20:30:30] Juski: oh god let's not start the 'if a cartoon character were real, who would you 'do' ' bit
[20:30:33] stuarta: unless you like blue...
[20:30:49] laga: Juski: those discussions are only really valid for hentai fans
[20:30:50] armand: i do wilma
[20:30:55] armand: shes hawt
[20:31:00] stuarta: !trout armand
[20:31:00] ** MythLogBot slaps armand with a trout on behalf of stuarta... **
[20:31:03] armand: hehe
[20:31:05] Juski: lol
[20:31:08] laga: betty's better.
[20:31:16] armand: wilma's got the doo
[20:31:28] armand: you could hold on to that thing
[20:31:29] armand: and..
[20:31:30] laga: i'd do the dinosaur
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[20:31:47] stuarta: !trout Juski for suggesting it
[20:31:47] ** MythLogBot slaps Juski for suggesting it with a trout on behalf of stuarta... **
[20:31:47] corpix: have you guys any estimate when recording from different channels on the _same_ transpoder will be possible ?
[20:31:50] Juski: corpix: when it's ready
[20:31:58] laga: corpix: patches for that are available in trac. dunno if it works.
[20:32:10] Juski: it's a bit too bleeding edge even for me
[20:32:10] stuarta: incomplete patches IIRC
[20:32:11] corpix: Juski: you mean like "it's done, when it's done" ;) ?
[20:32:27] stuarta: as in "how long is a piece of string"
[20:32:49] Juski: it'll likely be before MCE can do it :-P
[20:32:58] corpix: heh
[20:33:11] Juski: or... as soon as you've finished coding it
[20:33:31] stuarta: I'm gunna try it when I run out of other things to fix...
[20:34:00] stuarta: it'll need to live in a branch for a while I reckon...
[20:34:03] psofa: stuarta, ive recompiled 10064 with debugging.should i do what the mythtv troubleshooting says? because ive no idea how to debug
[20:34:08] Juski: so.. rewinding to a couple of hours ago... any idea what was up with that scan, stuarta ?
[20:34:35] stuarta: psofa: firstly do 'ulimit -c unlimited', then start the frontend from that window
[20:34:48] stuarta: and do whatever you normally do to kill it
[20:35:09] stuarta: that'll give you a core file we can then debug....
[20:36:02] corpix: Table 'mythconverg.eit_cache' doesn't exist << does anyone know what this table should look like ?
[20:36:17] corpix: 10064 svn here
[20:36:55] Juski: corpix: did you run mythtv-setup after recompiling? saw something say 'don't forget to do that' in some doc or other
[20:36:59] stuarta: corpix: if you are using mythtv-eit branch then you have everything you need in libs/libmythtv/dbcheck.cpp
[20:37:25] stuarta: Juski: head has a DB version > eitbranch version, so the DB updates don't go in
[20:37:46] Juski: ahh. that would explain some stuff
[20:37:49] corpix: Juski: oh ok
[20:37:51] psofa: stuarta, not to sound idiotic but where should the core file be :D
[20:37:57] corpix: i'll try mythtv-setup
[20:38:04] psofa: ive just killed the frontend
[20:38:05] stuarta: corpix: won't help
[20:38:13] psofa: ah
[20:38:19] psofa: i have a core file
[20:38:21] psofa: now what
[20:38:41] stuarta: gdb /full/path/to/mythfrontend corefile
[20:38:45] corpix: stuarta: i'd create it on my own it it helps, but i don't know what sturcture this table has
[20:39:00] stuarta: corpix: read what I said before
[20:39:49] psofa: stuarta, done
[20:40:21] stuarta: then use the commands from the debugging howto & utilize a pastebin
[20:40:34] stuarta: ie. thread apply all bt full
[20:40:47] corpix: stuarta: i have a look into that file, but how should i execute dbcheck.cpp ?
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[20:41:30] ** stuarta slaps head **
[20:42:10] telenieko: Hi ppl. I'm trying to add a saa7134 card, and on the 'audiodevice' I'd like to set it to my second ALSA card (for aplay it's -D hw:1,0 or -D saa7134 as per asound.conf) but mythbackend does not want to open such device. Any clues?
[20:42:25] corpix: stuarta: no really, please gimme a hint ;)
[20:42:30] stuarta: corpix: I'm going to ask a new question, why are you running mythtv-eit branch?
[20:42:41] Juski: corpix: unless you have a C interpreter handy you don't – but the source file will give you an idea of the table structure
[20:43:02] ** stuarta waves his c++ compiler at Juski **
[20:43:07] corpix: stuarta: because i wanted to test it
[20:43:09] kormoc: telenieko, try ASLA:saa7134 ?
[20:43:54] stuarta: corpix: as Juski said, dbcheck.cpp contains the create table statement that will do the job. Backup your db first though....
[20:43:59] telenieko: kormoc 'failed open...' on 'strace' it tries to open 'ALSA:saa7134' as if it was a file! ;(
[20:44:29] corpix: stuarta: shouldnt the compiled dbcheck.cpp executed somewhere ?
[20:45:03] kormoc: telenieko, that's likely correct, as the alsa libs should intercept and do it's thing
[20:45:06] stuarta: < stuarta> Juski: head has a DB version > eitbranch version, so the DB updates don't go in
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[20:45:53] telenieko: kormoc but, aplay -D saa7134 works like a charm while mythbackend insists on opening ALSA:saa7134 as a regular file o_O
[20:46:18] kormoc: telenieko, it's opening ALSA:default on mine line a regular file and that works fine
[20:46:52] psofa: stuarta, so i should crash it again from within gdb?
[20:47:19] ** psofa feels noob **
[20:47:23] telenieko: kormoc forgive, I'm going to check that debian packages for mythtv have alsa enabled.. I'm starting to doubt so ;)
[20:47:37] stuarta: psofa: no you have the memory image of the frontend when it crashed, which is the same as catching it when it crashes in gdb
[20:48:32] stuarta: the instructions in the howto describe the situation where you catch it as it crashes, then what to do after.
[20:48:52] stuarta: you are doing just the "what to do after" part.
[20:49:19] stuarta: just put the output of 'thread apply all bt full' into a pastebin.
[20:50:09] psofa: stuarta, thats only 9 lines is that correct?
[20:50:34] stuarta: hmmm, I hope not, but paste it anyway
[20:51:23] psofa: stuarta, http://pastebin.com/747731
[20:51:35] psofa: i really think ive made sth stupid :(
[20:51:55] psofa: its talking about pthread and libc
[20:52:15] stuarta: output from 'info threads' please.
[20:52:20] Wonko: I'm still trying to install MythWeb and feels pretty lost... The README says I should ensure that mod_env and mod_rewrite is enabled but I can not find any mod_env
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[20:52:36] stuarta: Wonko: apache.
[20:52:49] kormoc: mod_env tends to be built in statically at times
[20:53:11] psofa: stuarta, i think its the same http://pastebin.com/747738
[20:54:10] psofa: ah btw when loading the core i get this:
[20:54:13] psofa: warning: Can't read pathname for load map: Input/output error.
[20:54:23] psofa: and then many loading symbols things
[20:55:48] Wonko: stuarta: Yes, I know that I should make a symlink from mods_available to mods_enabled
[20:56:10] stuarta: Wonko: yes, under debian you need to.
[20:56:44] stuarta: psofa: that's normal, the last few lines before the prompt and after the loads is useful
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[20:57:53] psofa: stuarta, i suppose these lines arent telling you anything good :P
[20:58:44] Wonko: stuarta: There are already one rewrite.load in mods-enabled and the mod_env is built-in according to kormoc.
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[20:59:54] kormoc: Wonko, can be
[21:00:30] kormoc: Wonko, apache -l will show you statically compiled modules
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[21:01:35] kormoc: Wonko, or you can just check in the modules directory apache looks in to see if it's there. if it's not statically linked in, usually it's just there and loaded automagically
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[21:03:42] Wonko: kormoc: apache2 -l says mod_env.c is compiled in so I guess that's OK then
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[21:04:10] stuarta: psofa: have you got those first few lines?
[21:04:12] kormoc: Wonko, aye, then it's enabled and happy.
[21:04:22] kormoc: Wonko, you still havn't actually said what issue you are having, btw
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[21:04:42] psofa: stuarta, you mean the "Loaded symbols for" lines?
[21:05:14] stuarta: just after that, before the first (gdb) prompt comes up
[21:05:22] psofa: crap
[21:05:24] psofa: only one line
[21:05:31] psofa: #0 0xb5f4c43c in memmove () from /lib/libc.so.6
[21:06:24] stuarta: nothing like program terminated .....
[21:06:41] psofa: Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault.
[21:06:47] psofa: thats in the beggining
[21:07:01] psofa: after that is the Loaded symbols stuff
[21:07:06] stuarta: those few lines around there are important....
[21:07:07] psofa: and then what i pastebined
[21:07:20] stuarta: okay.
[21:07:59] psofa: stuarta, thats the whole think http://pastebin.com/747768 however as i told you theres nothing more
[21:08:03] psofa: *thing
[21:08:35] psofa: boo! i cant use my fast tuning myth.and now i cant go back to stable old tuning
[21:08:40] Wonko: kormoc: I use Debian (testing) and have tried to do all steps in README. When I try to browse http://192.168.0.4/mythweb/ I get "Database Access Denied. You are most likely receiving this message because you have failed to configure mythweb's database login info. Please see .htaccess for instructions."
[21:08:45] stuarta: okay, nothing we can do with that lot :-(
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[21:09:09] kormoc: Wonko, that's likely a different issue. Is the myth database on the same machine as the web server?
[21:09:26] psofa: stuarta, could it be me? i mean maybe libc etc?
[21:09:36] stuarta: psofa: method #2, startup the frontend as per normal, then attach gdb
[21:09:51] stuarta: did you distclean last time you built?
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[21:11:40] Wonko: kormoc: Yes apache2 is on the same machine as mythbackend but I am trying from a different machine (192.168.0.3). But I have configured MySQL to allow access from 192.168.0.x and that seems to work since I also have installed mythfrontend on both machines.
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[21:12:29] kormoc: Wonko, and you edited the .htaccess file with the correct database user name and password and ip?
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[21:13:58] Wonko: kormoc: So it's the database password that should be set in the password file for apache?
[21:14:02] psofa: stuarta, attach gdb? You mean run frontend from with gdb right?
[21:14:08] psofa: *within
[21:14:24] kormoc: Wonko, in the .htaccess file, yes, it should be the info to connect to the database
[21:15:49] psofa: stuarta, if thats what you mean i get that: http://pastebin.com/747790
[21:15:55] psofa: which is the same thing i think
[21:16:21] Wonko: kormoc: But the .htaccess file only points to a password file created with "htpasswd -c /var/www/passwords mythtv". Correct?
[21:16:28] stuarta: psofa: the frontend is a challenge. you have to start it up first, then start debugging it.
[21:16:36] stuarta: psofa: so startup the fe.
[21:16:50] psofa: k
[21:16:55] psofa: then?
[21:17:17] kormoc: Wonko, no, there should be a section with setenv db_server setenv db_name, etc defining the database info
[21:17:30] kormoc: Wonko, my .htaccess file for mythweb is 137 lines long
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[21:17:36] TinheadNed: hey guys
[21:18:14] Wonko: kormoc: Sorry, yes that's right.
[21:18:43] stuarta: psofa: find the pid of the frontend, run gdb /path/to/mythfrontend <pid>
[21:18:47] kormoc: Wonko, lines 50 to 53 are the ones that you need to point to the database
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[21:19:03] TinheadNed: i tried svn mythtv for a day at the weekend and didn't realise it had upgraded the sql tables for a few days – are there any guides on bringing my backup inline with the programs i've recorded over the last four days?
[21:19:04] psofa: stuarta, guess my next question
[21:19:11] psofa: how do i find the pid of a prog
[21:19:13] psofa: :)
[21:19:21] TinheadNed: psofa: gdb --pid `pidof mythfrontend`
[21:19:25] psofa: ah
[21:19:34] Juski: killl meeee... (please). I just checked out the digitalspy website.. on a BB 'story'
[21:19:43] TinheadNed: Juski: ?
[21:19:49] ** stuarta is testing mytharchive.... **
[21:20:10] Juski: TinheadNed: BB == big (load of bollocks) brother
[21:20:13] psofa: stuarta, which of the pids?
[21:20:17] psofa: got 4 of them
[21:20:35] Wonko: kormoc: Yes, they seems correct. But what else do I have to edit to .htaccess?
[21:20:48] TinheadNed: Juski: well, I guessed the bb bit, what's digital spy?
[21:21:02] kormoc: Wonko, that should be it
[21:21:05] stuarta: the parent, normally the first one
[21:21:06] kormoc: Wonko, try from a shell to access the mysql database with those values?
[21:21:28] Juski: TinheadNed: TV news webshite – up to date info on what's going on in the world of telly & 'entertainment'
[21:21:31] kormoc: Wonko, mysql -h host -u user -p database and then type in the password when prompted and see if you get a mysql prompt?
[21:21:34] psofa: stuarta, its the last of them :)
[21:22:17] psofa: stuarta, i think im in
[21:22:31] psofa: i hope this error doesnt matter
[21:22:33] psofa: Error while running hook_stop:
[21:22:34] psofa: Invalid type combination in ordering comparison.
[21:22:54] psofa: last line is 0xb5f74d91 in select () from /lib/libc.so.6
[21:22:59] stuarta: methinks something isn't right. do a make distclean and rebuild myth
[21:23:10] TinheadNed: Juski: oh
[21:24:00] Juski: omg I left mythtv in livetv mode all night.. oopsie
[21:24:10] armand: mine would never last that long
[21:24:13] armand: usually locks up every hour or halfhour
[21:24:16] armand: whenenver the show cycles
[21:24:18] armand: heh.
[21:24:39] armand: every so often it survives the hour change
[21:24:44] armand: mostly, no
[21:24:44] armand: :)
[21:25:02] Wonko: kormoc: ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[21:25:32] kormoc: okay, that's the problem
[21:25:47] kormoc: try replacing -h localhost with -h 192.168.0.x
[21:25:54] kormoc: where the ip is the ip of the machine
[21:25:57] Wonko: kormac: With 192.168.0.4 instead of localhost works!
[21:26:45] kormoc: so change the ip in the .htaccess file to that and you should be good to go
[21:26:57] stuarta: damn you mytharchive, do something....
[21:27:24] Wonko: kormac: That worked! Wonderful! Thanks!
[21:27:50] TinheadNed: is there a way to import a mythtv recording back into the mythtv db?
[21:27:53] TinheadNed: an easy way, that is
[21:28:06] psofa: stuarta, im pretty sure i compiled with debugging on.I compiled 10064 from a custom ebuild i did based on the gentoo one.So im sure i replaced the prev installation.Besides the ./configure output shows-> Compile type debug
[21:28:27] stuarta: it's not that, it's just a completely weird error.
[21:28:47] kormoc: TinheadNed, http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . ddatabase.pl
[21:28:58] Juski: hang on... is this a compile with 'custom' patches psofa?
[21:29:07] psofa: Juski, no no
[21:29:11] psofa: i removed everything
[21:29:16] psofa: thats a clean install
[21:29:18] psofa: to make sure
[21:29:26] kormoc: psofa, did you update gcc lately?
[21:29:28] Juski: ok
[21:29:54] psofa: kormoc, gcc version 3.3.6
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[21:30:42] kormoc: well, that doesn't really answer my question, but at least we know it's not a gcc 4.1/3.x issue
[21:30:59] kormoc: psofa, have you tried running revdep-rebuild and making sure there aren't any broken packages?
[21:32:03] ShAkFaCe: hi, im trying to install mythtv on suse linux 9.1. WHen i compile Myth 0.19 i dont get a ./setup file , under /mythtv-0/19/setup
[21:34:25] psofa: kormoc, lemme check
[21:34:59] TinheadNed: kormoc: cool, ta
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[21:36:10] TinheadNed: kormoc: mind you, I've only got four files – think I'll just move them to the video library
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[21:38:04] psofa: kormoc, no i have only like 10 packages broken.And the only one connected to myth is directfb which i suppose doesnt matter as im not using it
[21:39:30] ShAkFaCe: ok another question. Anybody if LIRC can now transmit MCE IR codes?
[21:40:47] ivor: Juski: wooo! got my tv code working!
[21:41:05] Juski: ivor – cool!
[21:41:08] kormoc: psofa, hrm. fair nuff
[21:41:45] ivor: Juski: spent the entire evening twiddling bits. :)
[21:41:48] Juski: editing a recording here, in sony vegas & I'm amazed the ads are actually 3dB _quieter_ than the programme material. good on ya channel4
[21:41:57] ivor: Juski: flexible overscan. yaaaaay.
[21:42:14] Juski: oops spoke too soon – Honda ad twice the peak programme level :-/
[21:42:22] Juski: ivor: wicked!
[21:42:30] ivor: right bedtime.
[21:42:49] ivor: I was starting to get annoying with it. spent about four weeks hacking at this sodding code.
[21:42:56] ivor: s/annoying/annoyed/
[21:43:47] Juski: next we just need an overscan slider in mythtv's menu somewhere ;-)
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[21:47:31] TinheadNed: Juski: that would be sweet
[21:48:20] psofa: kormoc, could trying gcc 3.4.6 do something
[21:48:22] psofa: ?
[21:48:29] kormoc: shouldn't
[21:48:44] kormoc: the main issues I know about are related to the gcc 4.1 update
[21:49:22] psofa: no i mean do sth beneficial for my crashes
[21:49:32] kormoc: ooh
[21:49:39] kormoc: likely not, what you can do is actually
[21:49:46] TinheadNed: kormoc: didn't think there were any gcc 4.1 issues left. svn compiled for me, although I did have runtime issues with it
[21:49:49] kormoc: make sure the ebuild doesn't strip the binary files
[21:50:19] psofa: kormoc, ?
[21:50:20] kormoc: TinheadNed, compile qt with gcc 4.1 and leave myth compiled with 3.x and you'll see wonderful issues ;)
[21:50:37] TinheadNed: kormoc: well, that's not really myth's fault :D
[21:50:39] kormoc: psofa, there is a step in the merge that strips (removes) all the debuging symbols from the binarys
[21:50:45] TinheadNed: psofa: FEATURES="nostrip"
[21:50:46] kormoc: TinheadNed, never said it was :)
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[21:50:52] ** kormoc nods **
[21:51:37] TinheadNed: kormoc: when I have a free week, I'll try svn again, but a bit busy atm, and myth takes a lot of time
[21:52:55] psofa: TinheadNed, ty
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[21:52:59] psofa: kormoc, recompiling
[21:53:02] psofa: damn slow box
[21:53:08] psofa: takes 1 h to recompile
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[21:53:40] TinheadNed: psofa: are you sure you want to use an ebuild to do this?
[21:54:21] psofa: TinheadNed, i suppose im spending my time right?
[21:54:27] psofa: during recompiles
[21:54:29] psofa: but
[21:54:33] psofa: i like keeping it tidy
[21:55:15] TinheadNed: psofa: it's just that if you do find a problem in the code, you'll have to recompile it all over again to fix it
[21:55:34] psofa: TinheadNed, maybe ccache can help?
[21:55:52] TinheadNed: the myth source can uninstall itself, so once you've done that, you can then write an ebuild or whatever for your bugfixed version
[21:56:06] TinheadNed: psofa: not if you're changing the CFLAGS each time
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[21:58:33] maniacxs: some recordings with dvb are not like they should be. mythtranscode wants to use mpeg1video. but they are mpeg2. recordings from a few channels are ok. the file header is "TeX font metric data"
[21:59:31] kormoc: TinheadNed, I really doubt he is changing his cflags every time
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[21:59:50] TinheadNed: kormoc: the ./configure --profile=debug will though
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[22:00:03] TinheadNed: kormoc: as I assume he'll change that back when he's done
[22:00:06] kormoc: TinheadNed, and you don't really need to do a full recompile, ebuild is a useful program to run though ebuilds single steps at a time
[22:00:17] kormoc: TinheadNed, true enough.
[22:00:22] TinheadNed: kormoc: I can never remember which step deletes the source
[22:01:06] kormoc: TinheadNed, postrm
[22:01:41] kormoc: erm, actually, that's not it
[22:01:56] kormoc: TinheadNed, it's clean that cleans up it all
[22:01:58] TinheadNed: kormoc: it's alright, I'll forget
[22:02:10] kormoc: TinheadNed, so just don't run ebuild file.ebuild clean and it's good to go
[22:02:34] kormoc: TinheadNed, well, that's why man ebuild exists ;)
[22:03:12] TinheadNed: indeed :)
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[22:06:01] TinheadNed: a day where I've got something else working in mythtv is a good day
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[22:06:43] TinheadNed: night all
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[22:12:41] Ryushin: Now is native ntsc broadcasts 640x480 or 720x480?
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[22:13:11] Ryushin: I thought 720x480 was dvd resolution and 640x480 was native ntsc.
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[22:13:29] Ryushin: But I was reading on website that ntsc was 720x480.
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[22:13:54] kormoc: ntsc is 720×486 or 720×540
[22:14:01] Ryushin: I can use ivtvctl to set my picture to 720x480, but then it looks wide screen when I know it can't be. So what's the scoop.
[22:14:06] kormoc: 720x480 is dvd ntsc
[22:14:22] kormoc: 352×240 is vcd ntsc
[22:14:52] psofa: Ive got a crappy pal tv.What is better ? running svideo on 1024 or on 750?
[22:15:12] Ryushin: kormoc: So NTSC broadcast over cable and OTA is 720x486?
[22:15:50] kormoc: Ryushin, according to wikipedia, aye
[22:15:59] kormoc: Ryushin, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_resoluti . . . ion.2FMovies
[22:16:33] xris: Ryushin: nowhere near that
[22:17:00] xris: my digital cable is 528x480 or 352x480 depending on the channel
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[22:17:35] Juski: xris: yuk
[22:17:36] xris: 720x480 is the *maximum* resolution... you also have to consider that the analog stuff is interlaced, so technically it's only 240 lines tall
[22:17:55] Ryushin: kormoc: According to that website, it says ntsc analog is 480 lines. But it doesn't give the width.
[22:17:55] xris: Juski: it's not all that bad.
[22:18:06] xris: Ryushin: because ntsc doesn't define width
[22:18:21] Juski: don't forget you lose some of the picture area to VBI stuff & things too
[22:18:24] kormoc: Ryushin, ooh, sorry
[22:19:17] Juski: analogue TV can't easily be expressed in terms of a pixel size ;-)
[22:19:36] xris: Juski: exactly. it's analog, not digital. pixels are digital
[22:19:39] psofa: i actually find many dvb channels worse than analogue
[22:19:57] Juski: how much resolution you get across the picture is down to the bandwidth of the signal more than anything
[22:20:19] Ryushin: Okay then, what is the "preferred" horizontal resolution to capture analog ntsc so I don't loose any detail? This is through a PVR-350 card?
[22:20:57] psofa: i suppose the more res you capture at the better it gets
[22:21:09] psofa: but after some value theres no point
[22:21:18] xris: Ryushin: the biggest the card goes.
[22:21:21] Juski: psofa: here we get 'cleaner' pictures because we miss out the PAL encoding/decoding/encoding process, but we get mpeg artifacts instead. A good well tuned analogue signal beats anything digital hands down though
[22:21:43] xris: Ryushin: analog signal will always have issues, so you want to grab as much of it as possible
[22:21:46] psofa: yeah
[22:21:51] Juski: Ryushin: start at 720x480 and work down to see what you can accept
[22:22:06] psofa: if you have good reception analogue is really ok
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[22:22:45] Juski: digital != good quality (necessarily)
[22:23:00] Ryushin: Okay, then I'll play with capturing at 720x480. I don't suppose Myth has a setting to set the PVR cards capturing resolution?
[22:23:00] psofa: btw is it my idea or do these lcd tv's show analogue really crappily?
[22:23:07] xris: Juski: nope. but it does mean "as good as you can get"
[22:23:08] Juski: the words 'digital' and 'quality' are not synonymous ;-)
[22:23:16] xris: Ryushin: of course it does
[22:23:31] migiel: is there a way to get the frontend of mythtv running under windows? (e.g. wine for windows?)
[22:23:39] psofa: i mean i really prefer my crappy crt than any lcd tv ive seen on standard definition
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[22:23:51] xris: Juski: like here, until recently, "digital cable" was mostly just digitized analog.. so you had static from the analog signal that created nasty digital artifacts.
[22:23:52] Juski: psofa: most of these new TVs make interlaced, non-native res stuff look like shit
[22:24:10] psofa: Juski, yeah i was speaking to a seller guy
[22:24:19] Juski: cheap scaling gear
[22:24:36] Ryushin: xris: Would that be in the frontend setup, under tv settings, under soemthing that I can't remember.
[22:24:37] psofa: and was trying to persuade him that the 100euro crt was really looking better than all that digital shit
[22:24:44] xris: Ryushin: recording profiles
[22:24:50] psofa: and he was ready to kill me
[22:24:50] Juski: my father-in-law has a 100Hz TV which does a very poor job of deinterlacing
[22:24:57] xris: same place it is for everything else.
[22:25:42] Juski: psofa: imho plasma/lcd is for the poseurs for now.. in the Uk at any rate
[22:25:47] Ryushin: Okay, that explains the resolution there. I almost thought that appeared once I check auto-transcode and I told it what resolution I want to transcode to.
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[22:25:55] psofa: Juski, maybe the clearer the monitor the more apparent the interlace
[22:26:10] Juski: psofa: lol. it's a supermarket own brand job
[22:26:12] psofa: i mean a cheap monitor does deinterlacing by itself :P
[22:26:25] Juski: looks like a goldfish bowl
[22:26:47] ** kormoc likes lcds cause they take dvi inputs, way clearer then his current tv, and so very very flat. **
[22:26:51] Juski: that's the problem with getting married. you don't just get a partner :-/
[22:27:05] psofa: the only thing id buy if i had the money is a plasma
[22:27:14] psofa: but then id need a hdtv signal to make use of it
[22:27:17] kormoc: I won't get a plasma, the burn-in sucks
[22:27:33] Juski: burn-in sucks but I like my black to look black
[22:27:37] psofa: suppose you leave myths menu overnight
[22:27:40] psofa: :P
[22:28:12] kormoc: psofa, not at all, our plasma at work has the myth mentu on maybe 2 hours a day or so, and it's burned in after 6 months
[22:28:30] psofa: Oo
[22:28:33] psofa: crap
[22:28:42] Juski: even crts can get burnt in though
[22:28:51] psofa: yeah mine has
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[22:28:58] psofa: because of the fucking providers logo
[22:29:00] psofa: ffs
[22:29:04] Juski: but
[22:29:17] Juski: logos are good! though only for commflagging
[22:29:18] Ryushin: You two have to see the new dlp 1080 chip. Contrast ration of 1000 to 1. Very, Very nice.
[22:29:41] psofa: im considering of getting a projector but i dont know
[22:29:46] psofa: im afraid it will die soon
[22:29:52] psofa: the lamp and stuff
[22:29:55] Juski: crt hd sets will appear before too long
[22:30:08] Juski: and they'll be the cheapest way to get 1080
[22:30:29] Juski: so they'll weigh a ton but who cares
[22:30:41] Ryushin: I read that Mits it going to be coming out with a laser dlp tv that uses a red/green/blue lasers and three dlp chips. I wonder if we will get zapped by radiation.
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[22:31:30] psofa: Juski, you mean the new sed or how are these called?
[22:31:31] Juski: OLED looks promising too, apart from the power consumption
[22:31:59] Juski: psofa: I dunno what they're called, but they'll not be doing any scaling
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[22:32:33] psofa: i mean these things that will be millions of tiny ctr tubes all together
[22:33:03] Juski: survey out recently over here seems to state that everybody is confused about HD. something like 60% of folks think they will just be able to use their current gear
[22:33:33] Juski: psofa: nah – all one toob – lower profile than conventional crt tvs though
[22:33:36] eleazar: hey guys, does anybody know why overscan would work when the NVidia logo is up but as soon as the gui loads it's like it turns off (warped edges, causing blue lines during video playback)
[22:33:58] Ryushin: OLED seems to have the same problems as plasma. Half life.
[22:34:17] Juski: eleazar: gf2 card with a chrontel tv encoder perchance?
[22:35:51] Juski: eleazar: I had the same kind of problem a long time ago on a GF2 card. was fine in 640x480 with overscan on but not in 800x600 – try different resolutions
[22:36:00] Juski: crappy tv encoder
[22:36:23] Juski: the nvidia ones are usually shit-hot, but some cards use different ones
[22:38:21] eleazar: *tried
[22:39:14] Juski: eleazar: oh... _that_ kind of blue line
[22:39:43] eleazar: Juski, lol that sounds kind of ominous
[22:39:49] Juski: to get nvidia-settings to reload your preferences for its settings, get them how you want, then quit
[22:40:07] Juski: then when your X starts up, use nvidia-settings -l
[22:40:43] Juski: eleazar: I thought you meant blue lines appearing across the screen at random intervals.. chrontel tv encoders are good at doing that
[22:40:57] eleazar: ohhh i get it
[22:41:18] Juski: it's in the nvidia-settings readme file
[22:41:37] eleazar: i'll try that nvidia-settings -l thing, unfortunately when i use nvidia-settings i lose most of the buttons on the bottom of the screen and the titlebar at the top (because it is essentially just zooming in)
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[22:43:53] psofa: stuarta, any idea on what should i do? :)
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[22:48:39] psofa: :(
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