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dscoular:

jhurliman, what card ?

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justafish:

hey. anyone around who can help with a problem I'm having detecting a DVB card in myth? it's listed under Capture Cards as [DVB: 0] but any DVB Card Number I try just comes up with "Could not open card #x!" "No such file or directory"

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[R]:

does the /dev/dvb/adapter0 exist?

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justafish:

ah. no /dev/dvb at all

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justafish:

I'm guessing that's not good :)

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justafish:

the device initialised at boot though

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justafish:

[ 39.747883] dvb-usb: found a 'Hauppauge WinTV-NOVA-T usb2' in cold state, wil l try to load a firmware

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justafish:

[ 40.052920] eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x41E1

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justafish:

[ 40.157768] dvb-usb: downloading firmware from file 'dvb-usb-nova-t-usb2–01.f w' to the 'Cypress FX2'

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justafish:

[ 40.210334] dvb-usb: Hauppauge WinTV-NOVA-T usb2 successfully initialized and connected.

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justafish:

[ 40.210351] usbcore: registered new driver dvb_usb_nova_t_usb2

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justafish:

right fixed it. If anyone's interested – it was an hauppauge nova usb running on ubuntu. 1st problem was that the firmware needed to be place in /lib/firmware. 2nd problem was that although placing it in /lib/firmware loaded all the correct modules etc, it has to be placed in /lib/firmware/<kernel version> to create the /dev/dvb nodes

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justafish:

though actually

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justafish:

that hasn't solved my problem :p

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dscoular:

justafish, so what is your problem ?

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justafish:

I run mythtv-setup, go to Capture Cards and [DVB : 0 ] is listed

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justafish:

however, under Card Name it says "Could not open card #0!" and under Card Type: "No such file or directory"

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justafish:

and this is the same for 0 -3

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dscoular:

have you tried deleting and recreating ?

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justafish:

deleting what exactly?

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dscoular:

oh, and you've verified that it works outwith mythtv ?

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[R]:

justafish: does it output anythign to the console?

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justafish:

no just outputs a date and time

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justafish:

just verifying it works without now, hold on

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justafish:

I think I'm having firmware issues

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justafish:

brb reboot

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justafish:

firmware's fine

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dscoular:

So does tzap work for you ?

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justafish:

can someone explain what /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0 would be for?

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fatmatt:

anyone know where I can find packages for debian stable and mythtv 0.18.1

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[R]:

justafish: its the dvb frontend

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xris:

fatmatt: why not install .19?

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xris:

and I think marillat maintains the debian packages

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justafish:

[R]: guessed that ;)

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justafish:

I don't see what it actually does though

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justafish:

and incidentally I don't have that device under my dvb dev

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justafish:

and thus can't run scan

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[R]:

then you dont have a frontend module loaded possibly

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dscoular:

The frontend allows you to make the following api calls: http://www.linuxtv.org/docs/dvbapi/DVB_Frontend_API.html You are missing the frontend driver methinks

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dscoular:

justafish, what do you get in /var/log/messages ?

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justafish:

May 28 02:52:51 trinity kernel: [ 40.078144] dvb-usb: found a 'Hauppauge WinTV-NOVA-T usb2' in warm state.

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justafish:

May 28 02:52:51 trinity kernel: [ 40.078156] dvb-usb: will pass the complete MPEG2 transport stream to the software demuxer.

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justafish:

May 28 02:52:51 trinity kernel: [ 40.090288] DVB: registering new adapter (Hauppauge WinTV-NOVA-T usb2).

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justafish:

May 28 02:52:51 trinity kernel: [ 40.111761] dvb-usb: MAC address: 00:0d:fe:03:03:03

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justafish:

May 28 02:52:51 trinity kernel: [ 40.118644] input: IR-receiver inside an USB DVB receiver as /class/input/input3

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justafish:

May 28 02:52:51 trinity kernel: [ 40.118671] dvb-usb: schedule remote query interval to 100 msecs.

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justafish:

May 28 02:52:51 trinity kernel: [ 40.118675] dvb-usb: Hauppauge WinTV-NOVA-T usb2 successfully initialized and connected.

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justafish:

May 28 02:52:51 trinity kernel: [ 40.118688] usbcore: registered new driver dvb_usb_nova_t_usb2

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dscoular:

justafish, not sure this is the right frontend but it came up in google. Can you do a modprobe tda1004x and watch /var/log/messages with tail -f

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justafish:

did nothing

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dscoular:

what does "lsmod |grep dib" give you

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justafish:

dvb_usb_dibusb_common 10372 1 dvb_usb_nova_t_usb2

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justafish:

dib3000mc 17792 1 dvb_usb_dibusb_common

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justafish:

dib3000_common 4096 1 dib3000mc

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justafish:

dvb_usb 22280 2 dvb_usb_nova_t_usb2,dvb_usb_dibusb_common

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justafish:

dvb_pll 13572 2 dvb_usb_dibusb_common,dvb_usb

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justafish:

i2c_core 26624 20 tda1004x,dvb_ttpci,l64781,ves1820,stv0299,tda8083,stv0297,sp8870,ves1x93,ttpci_e eprom,i2c_acpi_ec,dib3000_common,dvb_usb,i2c_viapro,tda9887,tuner,nvidia,cx88xx, i2c_algo_bit,tveeprom

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fatmatt:

xris, 0.18 is working fine on the server side, just reinstalling stuff on my laptop after a hdd failure.

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justafish:

(there's also an analogue tv pci card in this computer too if you were wondering about the odd entries in i2c_core :) )

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fatmatt:

I'll move over to 0.19 when I have time to fix stuff.

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dscoular:

These are the drivers that need to have loaded: dib3000-common.ko, dib3000mc.ko, dvb-usb.ko, dvb-usb-dibusb-common.ko, dvb-usb-nova-t-usb2.ko so it looks like you have all the correct drivers

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dscoular:

what kernel version ?

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justafish:

2.6.15-23-amd64-generic

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dscoular:

ls /dev/dvb/* ?

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dscoular:

oops

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dscoular:

I mean ls /dev/dvb*

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justafish:

dscoular: demux0 dvr0 net0

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justafish:

under /dev/dvb/adapter0

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dscoular:

I was wondering if there was a /dev/dvb0 I've seen udev/hotplug screw up and creat the devices above /dev/dvb/adapter0 hence the ls /dev/dvb*

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justafish:

ahh right. no there's just apadter0

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dscoular:

what distro/version

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justafish:

*adapter0

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justafish:

Ubuntu 6.06

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justafish:

heh dmesg actually says

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justafish:

dvb-usb: no frontend was attached by 'Hauppauge WinTV-NOVA-T usb2

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dscoular:

looks like it might not be supported yet... although this is a couple of months old: http://www.pvrweb.com//bbs-old/viewtopic.php?t=35137

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dscoular:

"Problem with most of the DiB3000P-devices is, that the tuner mt2060 is not supported yet"

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justafish:

so many people seem to have gotten this working though

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dscoular:

Yes, but the hardware manufacturers change internal components over time.

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justafish:

yeah from what I've read there's two types for my particular tuner

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justafish:

and both should work

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dscoular:

http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-dvb/msg09848.html

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justafish:

ahhh ok

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** justafish swears very loudly **

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dscoular:

I could always be wrong

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dscoular:

At least your not getting the 13 13 13 mac address thing

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justafish:

heh...

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justafish:

[ 39.598849] dvb-usb: MAC address: 00:0d:fe:03:03:03

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justafish:

:)

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dscoular:

ooh... if that's not what's on the box then maybe this is the same issue.

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dscoular:

justafish, only chance is to try linuxtv source from their Hg archive

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justafish:

yeah sounds like the only choice :(

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dscoular:

or ask on the #linuxtv channel or their mailing list... I feel your pain

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justafish:

yeah I will tomorrow

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justafish:

or take the damn thing back to the shop :)

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dscoular:

My AverMedia AverTV DVB-T USB 2.0 thing works ok

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dscoular:

maybe they'll swap it

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** Sedorox wises his AverMedia TV USB2 tuner worked **

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Sedorox:

wishes*

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dscoular:

Sedorox, what's wrong with it ?

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Sedorox:

haven't gotten it to work in linux yet

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justafish:

yeah I heard AverMedia work really well, but I've never seen anywhere to buy one

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dscoular:

Sedorox, or is it not DVB-T

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Sedorox:

its not.. I don't think..

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justafish:

anyway it's 3:30am so I should probably give up for tonight before I throw it out of my window :)

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justafish:

thanks for all your help

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Sedorox:

its in a Sager NP8790 notebood :p

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dscoular:

It needs a slightly stronger signal than my PCI Nova-T is the only criticism I'd make

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dscoular:

justafish, no worries

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Sedorox:

http://www.avermedia-usa.com/2005home/product . . . usb300.shtml

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Sedorox:

think I have the equicv of that

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Sedorox:

but a older version

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dscoular:

Sedorox, sorry that's an analogue tuner as far as I can tell mine is for DVB-T

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Sedorox:

yea it is...

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Sedorox:

laptops two years old.. so its at least that old :p

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Sedorox:

I _think_ its a SAA7134 chip.. but I don't know 100%

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dscoular:

when you say it's "in" your laptop do you mean it's not an external USB-2.0 box ?

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Sedorox:

well.. my laptop had a module port on the side.. I could get either a subwoofer (aha) or a tv tuner.. and its the tuner.. its connected via usb...

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Sedorox:

its just a tiny module...

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dscoular:

so does your /var/log/messages notice it at all ?

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Sedorox:

the audio it does...

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Sedorox:

I dont' have access to it right now (in the other room reinstalling everything )

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Sedorox:

but lsusb finds it...

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Sedorox:

etc..

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Sedorox:

just haven't been able to find the right modules

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dscoular:

A modern distro should hopefully autodetect it... I suspect it has innards which are a little to weird.

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dscoular:

If you do a lsusb and quote the numbers maybe the linuxtv mailing list can id it for you.

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Sedorox:

damn...

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Sedorox:

Bus 001 Device 004: ID 07ca:e820 AVerMedia Technologies, Inc.

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Sedorox:

thats all lsub comes up with

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Sedorox:

iManufacturer 1 AVerMedia

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Sedorox:

iProduct 2 TV USB2.0

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dscoular:

Give the linuxtv mailing list a bash... give them as much detail about the device as you can

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Sedorox:

kk

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Sedorox:

thanks...

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Sedorox:

I haven't dealt too much with it recently.. kinda gave up on it :p

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dscoular:

google for 07ca:e820 might give some leads

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dscoular:

Maybe you could ask this poster if he made any progress: http://www.spinics.net/lists/vfl/msg13485.html

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Sedorox:

lol.. was just reading that :p

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Sedorox:

ah, right

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Sedorox:

saa7114h

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Sedorox:

chip..

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dscoular:

http://www.linux-projects.org/downloads/dc11x0.txt

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dscoular:

So collate all the facts you can and see if the linuxtv guys and gals can help

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Sedorox:

yea.. saw that before.. but I can't find the actual download link.. looks like company only

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Sedorox:

kk.. thanks :)

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kristok:

how do i use the internal player for mythvideo?

[04:50:12]

tama00:

will mythtv successfully run on 1.8ghz with digital tv?

[04:56:23]

opello:

i'm kind of a video neophyte, but i used edit mode to chop a chunk out of a show i recorded, and copied it to my desktop where it looks kind of crappy ... i was wondering if i can do the '2% underscan' and 'deinterlace' steps but leave the file as mpeg data? or is mpeg data fields that get interlaced when it's decompressed?

[04:57:01]

dscoular:

kristok, set the player to "Internal" with a upper-case I

[04:57:26]

dscoular:

opello, use nuvexport

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dscoular:

tama00, yes but depends on whether you mean HD or SD digital

[04:58:47]

opello:

dscoular: when using nuvexport-xvid it takes a long time and never looks very good :(

[04:59:25]

opello:

i'm sure it's all settings, but just using the default [xx] suggested ones is all i've done

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opello:

hardare is 2.4 p4 northwood, 1gb ram

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dscoular:

opello, you can have mpeg2-mpeg2 if you just want to edit

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opello:

but it doesn't let you do the underscan to chop off the vbi stuff?

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dscoular:

opello, I agree that the defaults for xvid don't seem too good. I do 1 pass and no noise reduction.

[05:01:23]

opello:

running it yourself without nuvexport then?

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dscoular:

opello, no with nuvexport

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opello:

maybe i need a new version, heh

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opello:

i never saw setting the passes

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dscoular:

I'm using a very recent version

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dscoular:

I'm also using mythtv 0.19-fixes svn

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opello:

i'm still on 0.18.1, need to get it all setup when i can stand not recording :)

[05:03:41]

opello:

i did constant video bitrate this time and it turned out a lot better

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dscoular:

opello, yeah I found that too... counter-intuitive huh!?!!

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lawton:

hello

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opello:

dscoular: heh yeah

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banyan:

I hope somebody can tell me why my pvr350 gives me line in but the video I get channel 94 from analog when I try and watch something from the svideo input.

[05:28:10]

banyan:

This is with fc5's 2.6.16–1.2122 kernel.

[05:28:18]

banyan:

With 2080, all is good.

[05:29:59]

lawton:

so does happauge make the best capture cards?

[05:30:25]

lawton:

seems like everyone has em, or maybe the plextors

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banyan:

I've only used hauppauge but I like it.

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lawton:

yeah it seems like most of the stores carry em

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banyan:

I am watching live tv and the whole thing is using about 1/2 percent cpi.

[05:39:23]

lawton:

i'm not sure if the PVR USB 2 model is that great

[05:39:52]

lawton:

hmm, that's pretty good

[05:40:16]

banyan:

I'd go for a PCI model.

[05:41:20]

lawton:

i think mine is using about 20% CPU right now

[05:41:37]

lawton:

yeah i got the USB because it was on sale for about $80

[05:41:41]

lawton:

after rebates

[05:42:11]

lawton:

would PCI get you better quality?

[05:42:25]

banyan:

but mine doesn't wanna watch svideo.

[05:42:34]

banyan:

better bandwidth.

[05:42:38]

lawton:

CPU utilization isn't a big deal, since it will probably only do recording when i'm watching

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banyan:

I rarely watch live tv.

[05:44:24]

lawton:

hmm, i don't think a NTSC stream reaches USB 2's bandwidth limits anyway

[05:45:06]

lawton:

it would be nice to get better quality though, i'm upsampling standard TV to 1600x1200

[05:45:21]

banyan:

Ya save 8 minutes or so not getting ads.

[05:45:26]

banyan:

in an hour.

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lawton:

yeah that is nice

[05:46:10]

lawton:

how is the quality with your PVR?

[05:46:48]

lawton:

i wonder why i'm at 20% cpu utilization

[05:46:59]

lawton:

maybe it's the recording software or the USB bus

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kristok:

so I'm using the internal video player for video, and its not using the correct aspect ratio

[05:49:31]

kristok:

but it works fine for some videos

[05:49:35]

banyan:

my pvr is about like watching tv direct.

[05:49:40]

banyan:

at 720x480.

[05:49:51]

banyan:

I watch on the tv for both.

[05:50:26]

lawton:

720x480, is that HDTV?

[05:51:07]

lawton:

or just regular NTSC

[05:51:47]

banyan:

ntsc

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lawton:

oh

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banyan:

I have hd, but it's only like 8 channels of it so I am not worried about capturing hd.

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lawton:

hmm, i wonder if i'm getting less that 720 out of video in using my monitor

[06:00:54]

lawton:

do you get any text that seems to flicker slightly using the PVR?

[06:01:18]

lawton:

seems to be some aliasing of diagonal lines too

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jradford:

I've been googling but am coming up short trying to program a keyspan usb digital media remote. simple things work like the up/down but I need to program specfic buttons

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jradford:

linux loads keyspan_remote driver, lirc says "not supported"... am I SOL on this thing?

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jack|ass:

Has anyone set up MythTV to work with a touch-panel?

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jack|ass:

I've got this plan wherein i finally build a HTPC and use this LCD touch-panel as the interface (with a projector as the "output" for video)

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banyan:

Is anyone using a hauppauge card on FC5 ussing 2.6.16–1.2122?

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secross:

anybody home?

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secross:

I need to verify if usals code is working, my sg2100 motor goes to the wrong positions in the satellite arc.

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secross:

I compiled 0.19 on a debian box, and was wondering if anybody has had problems with the gotoX feature.

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Freman:

hey folks... is it possible with mythdvd to use a dvd rom over the network... ie: via nfs?

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Freman:

or perhaps mythdvd on a remote machine (not the backend) accessed from the front end?

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banyan:

Is anyone using a hauppauge card on FC5 ussing 2.6.16–1.2122?

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dscoular:

Freman, the best option is to rip the dvd to disk... since most dvd's are css encrypted. The other option is to use vlc to stream the dvd across the network.

[08:56:28]

banyan:

dvdunauthor.

[08:57:04]

LLyric:

banyan: yeah, using pvr-350 on that kernel

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Freman:

chears dscoular . Kind of what I expected

[08:57:52]

Freman:

Just trying to track down a nice slimline slotloading usb dvd rom for my mythbox

[08:58:14]

Freman:

until then, I'm stuck watching dvd's on the REAL dvd player which means I have to change amp cables every time I want to switch )c:

[08:59:27]

banyan:

LLyric — I have had two problems. The first one I solved by removing the msp3400 in updates so the kernel one loaded. The second is this:

[08:59:42]

LLyric:

just a sec, gotta go get dinner.

[08:59:57]

LLyric:

PS: I just use livna rpms, it all works great.

[09:00:00]

LLyric:

atrpms

[09:00:01]

LLyric:

rather

[09:00:16]

banyan:

I can't get video from the svideo input. When I try to watch svideo input, I get the sound from the line in but video from the tuner.

[09:01:03]

banyan:

so, did you have to fiddle with your modules to get your installation to work?

[09:03:51]

LLyric:

nope

[09:03:57]

LLyric:

just a line or two in modprobe

[09:03:59]

LLyric:

.conf

[09:04:20]

LLyric:

I'll explain when I get back from dinner. Maybe 30 mins.

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banyan:

I shall wait patiently for your return.

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LLyric:

Alright, I'm back. Where were we?

[09:24:03]

LLyric:

Hmmm, I haven't actually used s-video in, in this config

[09:24:16]

banyan:

You were going to expound your great wisdom about how to make ivtv work in 2122.

[09:24:36]

banyan:

Can you easily check it to see if you're not having the same problem?

[09:24:37]

LLyric:

ivtv itself, is a nobrainer. Are you using atrpms?

[09:24:58]

banyan:

I have it working except for this issue.

[09:25:06]

banyan:

I have it installed and everything.

[09:25:09]

banyan:

I am using atrpms.

[09:25:27]

LLyric:

Sorry, wifey is watching tv, and it's recording something else.

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banyan:

what were you going to say?

[09:26:07]

LLyric:

I'll have a look when she's done, I can use the other laptop as a video source.

[09:26:14]

banyan:

okee.

[09:26:23]

banyan:

half hour show? :-)

[09:26:37]

LLyric:

I was going to list the rpms I had installed, the config from my modprobe.conf, and see if you had tried using the ivtv tools rather than mythtv

[09:27:17]

banyan:

Just used myth.

[09:27:35]

banyan:

Though it works in 2080. I get the digital channels fine.

[09:27:47]

LLyric:

Have you tried cat'ing the /dev and using ivtvctl to change the input selection?

[09:27:49]

banyan:

2122, I get the correct audio but some silly video.

[09:27:57]

banyan:

I have not, actually.

[09:28:15]

banyan:

Would be a good check.

[09:28:39]

banyan:

This would obviously be something best done with the backend shut off?

[09:29:06]

LLyric:

You could probably get away with it, as long as it wasn't recording or watching livetv

[09:29:46]

LLyric:

But might be safer to shut it down :)

[09:31:33]

asd26:

ffmpeg -i is giving my unknow format

[09:32:45]

banyan:

Hmm, I do an ivtvctl -p 1 which should set input to svideo but the video still comes in from the tuner.

[09:33:17]

LLyric:

Hmmm, maybe it IS a driver problem them

[09:33:19]

LLyric:

n

[09:33:56]

banyan:

I get a sine wave as the audio but Family Guy with -p 1

[09:34:16]

banyan:

and with -p 0 I get family guy audio and video.

[09:34:34]

LLyric:

Yeah, sounds like your conclusion is right

[09:35:48]

banyan:

what did you have to do to your modprobe.conf?

[09:35:58]

banyan:

you mentioned making some mods there.

[09:36:11]

banyan:

You're in Britain are you LLyric?

[09:36:33]

LLyric:

No interesting config. I'm in Australia.

[09:36:36]

banyan:

or europe somewhere? I'm assuming it's 10:30 or 11:30 where you are.

[09:36:46]

banyan:

ah! Is australia ntsc?

[09:36:50]

LLyric:

PAL

[09:36:54]

banyan:

ah.

[09:36:57]

LLyric:

But that's just one setting.

[09:37:23]

banyan:

It's 7:30 pm then?

[09:37:24]

banyan:

for you?

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LLyric:

My modprobe.conf has: alias char-major-81 videodev alias char-major-81–0 ivtv options ivtv pal=G install lirc_i2c /sbin/modprobe ivtv; /sbin/modprobe ivtv-fb ; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install lirc_i2c

[09:37:47]

LLyric:

Yeah, 7:30pm Sunday

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banyan:

that's about the same as mine.

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banyan:

http://pastebin.com/742529

[09:43:33]

banyan:

is mine...

[09:43:49]

banyan:

but I don't see anything particularly different. just no options ivtv pal=G

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asd26:

dudes how does one check the transcoding logs

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** LLyric nods **

[09:44:38]

LLyric:

Nothing interesting in the dmesg logs on startup?

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tama_:

omg bigbrother is on for 2 hours -_-

[09:46:59]

tama_:

please someone shoot me

[09:47:05]

tama_:

in the face

[09:47:12]

tama_:

i cant live like this!

[09:47:35]

LLyric:

tama00: heheh, that's what myth is for, recording other stuff

[09:48:05]

banyan:

Well, this might be interesting... all other drivers say they're ivtv version blah blah, but tuner lists nothing about ivtv at all.

[09:48:18]

banyan:

maybe I have a generic version of tuner that isn't the correct ivtv rev.

[09:49:08]

banyan:

LLyric: you didn't have trouble with having no sound at first? I had to remove my msp3400 in updates to get sound.

[09:49:34]

LLyric:

Nope, worked fine for me.

[09:49:57]

LLyric:

v4l has a habit of fscking things upp

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banyan:

heh

[09:50:42]

banyan:

I assume the usual habit of the kernel is to load the updates version of a kernel in preference of the kernel version.

[09:51:08]

banyan:

I refer to the subdirectories under /lib/modules/`uname -r` when I say kernel and updates

[09:51:13]

LLyric:

Yes, but I only have one msp3400.ko

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banyan:

ooh.

[09:51:19]

banyan:

weird.

[09:51:20]

LLyric:

/lib/modules/2.6.16–1.2122_FC5/kernel/drivers/media/video/msp3400.ko

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LLyric:

from the kernel itself

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LLyric:

I *don't* have v4l installed

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banyan:

did you install kmdl-ivtv-`uname -r`

[09:51:53]

banyan:

?

[09:52:21]

LLyric:

Just a sec: [root@mythtv ~]# rpm -qa *ivtv*

[09:53:50]

LLyric:

http://pastebin.com/742540

[09:54:19]

banyan:

I get nine.

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LLyric:

I've got 9, including 2111 kernel module

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banyan:

2111? I'm running 2122.

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asd26:

2006-05–28 00:47:01.891 Unknown video codec:

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asd26:

thats the transcoding error

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LLyric:

I'm running 2122, like I said, but I've still got 2111 installed.

[09:57:24]

banyan:

As well as 2122.

[09:57:29]

LLyric:

Yup

[09:57:35]

banyan:

I have 0.7–111 of the ivtv tools.

[09:58:02]

LLyric:

I tried it, but iirc it didn't quite work for me, so I went back

[09:58:19]

LLyric:

Maybe that would work better for you, too

[09:59:18]

banyan:

Ooh, I see that my kernel module version is same as yours but I have the ivtv tools up-revved.

[09:59:30]

banyan:

Surprising that yum wouldn't have had a problem with that.

[10:00:23]

banyan:

My 2122 drivers are 0,6,2–110 but the tools are 0.7–111

[10:00:53]

LLyric:

Yeah, that might contribute, but I don't know where they would be called.

[10:01:02]

LLyric:

myth makes the syscalls, doesn't use the tools

[10:01:11]

banyan:

Ah, interesting.

[10:01:18]

banyan:

so that probably has nothing to do with it.

[10:01:37]

banyan:

unless it was compiled in using the 0.7–111 version of the calls.

[10:01:56]

banyan:

I might see if I can downgrade my kernel drivers to 0.6.2–110.

[10:02:01]

LLyric:

They probably haven't changed that much. You're using atrpms binary myth?

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banyan:

I am.

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banyan:

I wonder where Axel is located. Maybe he is in a pal area and they never tested ntsc.

[10:03:59]

LLyric:

Nah, it'd be the other way around, if anything

[10:04:01]

banyan:

you know what's weird tho, I just did an install without specifying version of ivtv and got an older rev of ivtv drivers for 2122 than I have for 2080.

[10:04:30]

LLyric:

Depends what he's built, I guess

[10:04:49]

LLyric:

IIRC sometimes the repo data lags the rpms a bit

[10:04:53]

LLyric:

Browse the website manually, perhaps

[10:05:23]

banyan:

I have had to do that in the past.

[10:12:33]

banyan:

and you do nothing special to load it? as far as you know it's just a modprobe ivtv?

[10:12:54]

LLyric:

I don't do anything explicit. When mythbackend starts, it loads all this stuff

[10:13:58]

banyan:

mine loads at udev starting.

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banyan:

and you never had trouble with getting no audio huh?

[10:16:18]

LLyric:

Not this year

[10:16:47]

LLyric:

I had a year or so away from mythtv/ivtv, and got back into it about 3 months ago.

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banyan:

do you have a module called tda9887 loaded by any chance?

[10:26:00]

LLyric:

Yup

[10:26:09]

LLyric:

That's the tuner thing, I think

[10:26:20]

LLyric:

Just a sec, will confirm

[10:27:08]

LLyric:

lsmod output at http://pastebin.com/742565

[10:30:19]

banyan:

You do as well.

[10:30:41]

banyan:

OK. I only asked because i2c_core on my machine is used by both that module and my nvidia driver.

[10:35:41]

asd26:

2006-05–28 00:47:01.891 Unknown video codec:

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asd26:

dudes whats does this mean? i don't have the codec installed?

[10:39:43]

banyan:

You know, I am starting to think I do have video4linux installed because it says I do... I assumed it would be called v4l.

[10:40:11]

banyan:

LLyric: that's a problem I think you mentioned...

[10:40:26]

LLyric:

Yeah, I think it used to be required, but these days it just fucks things up

[10:40:37]

LLyric:

I think the changes we need were rolled into the mainstream kernel

[10:40:58]

banyan:

So I should remove v4l.

[10:41:04]

banyan:

Do we need any v4l2?

[10:41:39]

LLyric:

Shit, big smash in my local series car race

[10:41:50]

LLyric:

Full on t-bone into drivers-side door, I hope he's okay

[10:42:05]

LLyric:

banyan: uh, I don't think so. what's the package called

[10:42:25]

banyan:

I'm not sure I have one, I was just asking.

[10:42:42]

banyan:

I do have a video4linux-kmdl package which I am going to remove.

[10:43:42]

banyan:

Here's a weird thing — it seems that ivtv-kmdl-2122–0.7–111 depends on video4linux-kmdl.

[10:43:52]

LLyric:

I don't have anything interesting with v4l on my box: http://pastebin.com/742579

[10:44:27]

banyan:

but how do you have ivtv without it?

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LLyric:

not needed, it seems

[10:45:12]

banyan:

did you install ivtv from packages?

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LLyric:

Yup

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LLyric:

I don't have anything from-source in my config

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banyan:

and your rev for 2122 was 0.7–111?

[10:46:12]

LLyric:

No, 0.6

[10:48:12]

LLyric:

http://pastebin.com/742540

[10:48:17]

LLyric:

ivtv-0.6.2–110.rhfc5.at

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LLyric:

ivtv-kmdl-2.6.16–1.2122_FC5–0.6.2–110.rhfc5.at

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banyan:

and your kernel package is the same?

[10:48:30]

banyan:

ok.

[10:52:56]

banyan:

ah ha! Now I end up with no video4linux, which I must have carried on from fedora updates.

[10:53:14]

banyan:

and now I have the whole thing working. I get audio and the right video.

[10:53:31]

banyan:

good tip. video4linux is not required!

[10:53:38]

banyan:

in fact, messes this up.

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LLyric:

Sweet

[10:56:20]

banyan:

excellent!

[10:56:31]

banyan:

So now I can move onto 2122.

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** LLyric grins. Binary luvleyness :) **

[10:58:42]

Freman:

hmph... i think my libqt is broken... I can connect to my backend just fine using mysql cmdline, but I can't get there using mythfrontend

[10:58:46]

banyan:

Is it just me, or is it a new mythtv version, or is the new kernel, but man, this is a lot faster than the 2080.

[10:58:56]

banyan:

at least myth behaves a lot better.

[10:59:00]

LLyric:

"faster" how would you tell?

[10:59:19]

LLyric:

But I've noticed it's getting more stable, cleaner, than it was

[10:59:27]

banyan:

Starting playback, responding to keys, changing menus.

[10:59:27]

LLyric:

the drivers are certainly easier :)

[11:00:00]

LLyric:

Unfortunately atrpms is a bit of an antisocial repo

[11:00:29]

banyan:

no shiznit.

[11:00:52]

banyan:

the fedora people basically won't talk to you if you mention it.

[11:01:01]

LLyric:

Yeah, Axel is a bit of pain

[11:01:09]

banyan:

And I have it locked down to very, very specific packages.

[11:01:25]

LLyric:

He doesn't release the macros to build kernel stuff reliably, and keeps replacing updates/extras packages

[11:01:43]

banyan:

which keeps it from borking my installation.

[11:02:10]

LLyric:

I have a script that gets a list of atrpms, then just "yum update" those

[11:02:26]

banyan:

They are a bit over bitchy about it tho. Like I say, I have it enabled on some restricted packages and I can still yum update between OS versions.

[11:02:56]

banyan:

e.g. I did fc4 to fc5 without having to reinstall, which the guys in #fedora seems to think is an acceptable way to update!

[11:03:18]

banyan:

they'd rather you reformatted and started over which is a *tad inconvenient*.

[11:03:28]

LLyric:

I updated fc4 to fc5 via yum myself. But you'd want to know a bit about it, iirc it borked librpm and glibc

[11:03:57]

banyan:

There are a few packages you need to manually upgrade first and then it goes on its own.

[11:04:13]

banyan:

I've become a bit of a fanatic about updating regularly.

[11:04:26]

LLyric:

Ditto, probably at least weekly.

[11:04:30]

banyan:

I want to catch the problems as they occur, not all at once when the new rev comes out.

[11:04:33]

LLyric:

A bit less for atrpms, because it breaks stuff sometimes

[11:05:54]

banyan:

when it breaks things I just don't update until it's fixed. Of course, if it installs but the install is broken that's not a viable solution.

[11:06:23]

banyan:

as in 0.7–111 of ivtv. I wonder why there are dependencies between it and video4linux!

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LLyric:

I would feel more inclined to help if Axel wasn't such a pain in the ass about his build macros, and replacing distro packages

[11:08:39]

banyan:

He should work with updates, livna and extras instead of trying to replace them.

[11:08:56]

banyan:

If he made an effort people wouldn't be blacklisted for using his repo.

[11:09:06]

LLyric:

Yeah

[11:09:18]

banyan:

Either that, or updates / extras / livna should pick up all the stuff he packages that they don't.

[11:09:29]

LLyric:

Yay OSS :)

[11:09:34]

banyan:

I would use another repo if I could to be honest.

[11:09:46]

banyan:

How long has that been deprecated? and yet there it is.

[11:10:04]

LLyric:

They should just fork from his repo

[11:10:14]

LLyric:

I mean, sorry, he does do a lot of work in this area

[11:10:23]

LLyric:

It's just that there's this fundamental problem

[11:11:19]

banyan:

He needs not to work on his own.

[11:11:37]

LLyric:

Still, it's OSS, he does whatever he feels like

[11:12:19]

LLyric:

As is his right, I suppose

[11:13:24]

asd26:

does ffmpeg tell if it's interlaced?

[11:15:56]

banyan:

sure he can.

[11:17:19]

LLyric:

banyan: you might be interested in the mythtv-svn .spec file

[11:17:37]

LLyric:

The build worked great for me, but the software is.... alpha :)

[11:17:38]

banyan:

as a case in point?

[11:17:41]

** laga wants an svn ebuild :) **

[11:17:43]

LLyric:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Mythtv-svn-rpmbuild.spec

[11:18:09]

** dscoular just uses the source, Luke **

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asd26:

i think transcoding is working now

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asd26:

anyone know if there is free software that boots and auto images a Hardrive? onto a DVD?

[11:42:25]

banyan:

i.e. ghost?

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banyan:

except free?

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thermite:

asd26: ultimatebootcd.com?

[11:44:02]

thermite:

ubcd

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banyan:

it has 'ghost' type software does it?

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asd26:

i want to back up my mythtv settings..lol

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banyan:

Just copy the myth database files, or dump the tables.

[11:54:45]

laga:

dumping the tables might be more sensible

[11:55:03]

banyan:

I think it's mythdumpdatabase...

[11:59:43]

asd26:

hey can u create DVD mpeg2 at a high resolution then play it on normal DVD player?

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dscoular:

asd26, I don't think so... I think DVD defines the resolution depending on PAL or NTSC as part of the standard. Look up wikipedia.org methinks

[12:07:57]

banyan:

Yeah, DVDs have to be at specific resolutions.

[12:08:15]

dscoular:

http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html

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asd26:

i did 1.4GB yo 900MB transcode

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dscoular:

asd26, you can just stop mysql, and tar your /var/lib/mysql/mythconverg e.g. /etc/init.d/mysql stop; tar cjvf /some/place/safe/mythconverg.tbz2 /var/lib/mysql/mythconverg; /etc/init.d/mysql start

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TinheadNed:

hi guys

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asd26:

interesting didn't know DVD's where progressive

[12:15:51]

TinheadNed:

any reason why svn mythtv might be failing to use xvmc when xine and mplayer use it fine?

[12:16:20]

dscoular:

TinheadNed, was mythtv compiled to use xvmc ?

[12:16:37]

dscoular:

TinheadNed, did you enable it in the settings screen ?

[12:17:37]

TinheadNed:

dscoular: yes, and yes

[12:17:50]

TinheadNed:

dscoular: although I had to fight with it to get the nvidia libs to be used

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dscoular:

TinheadNed, is this svn or 0.19-fixes svn ?

[12:18:10]

TinheadNed:

dscoular: svn

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dscoular:

ah... I've only used 0.19-fixes svn... sorry.

[12:19:33]

TinheadNed:

dscoular: I was never entirely sure it worked in 0.19, but CPU usage is waaayy up in svn

[12:20:09]

ivor:

TinheadNed: what does the frontend log say?

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dscoular:

TinheadNed, --verbose all should log what it's up to (aka what Ivor said :)

[12:21:03]

TinheadNed:

ivor: XvMCTex: Init failed

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TinheadNed:

dscoular: just seems to fill up with SQL logs then, didn't seem to get anything more useful out

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ivor:

pastebin the log.

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TinheadNed:

wait a minute – just gdbing it

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TinheadNed:

the create xvmctexture is just {return NULL;}

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TinheadNed:

that's unlikely to work ;)

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dscoular:

:)

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dscoular:

thems the breaks with using svn methinks

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TinheadNed:

dscoular: well, I thought I'd solved that one with a poor configure earlier

[12:25:31]

TinheadNed:

well, I wanted to go to svn so I can start contributing back

[12:25:37]

TinheadNed:

price to pay ;)

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** ivor drums fingers. **

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dscoular:

TinheadNed, go for it! That's the price of the pain and joy of contributing methinks

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TinheadNed:

hmm

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TinheadNed:

the code is definitely being compiled in – so why gdb thinks it isn't . . I don't understand

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dscoular:

TinheadNed, I think ivor may want to see that log in pastebin.ca

[12:30:00]

TinheadNed:

ah

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TinheadNed:

right

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TinheadNed:

http://pastebin.ca/59320

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dscoular:

what file is xvmctexture in ?

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TinheadNed:

libs/libmythtv/xvmctextures.cpp

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dscoular:

Is this the mythtv-vid branch rather than trunk ?

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TinheadNed:

trunk

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TinheadNed:

i just did a svn co, no fancy options, iyswim

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dscoular:

what method/line no

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TinheadNed:

I've been looking at XvMCTextures::*Create

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dscoular:

Well, what your seeing in gdb doesn't seem to match the source

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ivor:

what cpu load is it running at?

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TinheadNed:

I know

[12:36:21]

TinheadNed:

100%

[12:36:27]

dscoular:

did you ldconfig ?

[12:37:10]

TinheadNed:

gdb has listed the library pathnames and they're all the /usr/local ones, fresh from svn

[12:37:13]

ivor:

does the log then just continue as if its playing but with prebuffering pauses?

[12:37:32]

TinheadNed:

ivor: yeah – like nobody's business

[12:37:33]

ivor:

could be a problem with the version of NVidia drivers perhaps.

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** dscoular has to take out the trash **

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TinheadNed:

ivor: xine and mplayer work with xvmc if that makes a difference

[12:38:28]

dscoular:

I'm interested in why gdb's idea of the source doesn't match the actual source

[12:38:36]

dscoular:

but I have to go

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TinheadNed:

perhaps I need to recompile with extra debugging info. sometimes -g isn't enough

[12:38:48]

TinheadNed:

dscoular: have fun with the rubbish ;)

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dscoular:

:)

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asd26:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1-8m-Component-Video-R . . . cmdZViewItem hail

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dscoular:

./configure --compile-type=debug

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asd26:

anyone know if this would blow up my tv?

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TinheadNed:

dscoular: using that already

[12:40:10]

dscoular:

Oh, and do a make clean prior to that

[12:40:13]

TinheadNed:

dscoular: but it only sets -g, not -gstabs-2 or anything

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** dscoular night, night all **

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TinheadNed:

dscoular: ttyl

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dscoular:

l8r

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TinheadNed:

asd26: no idea, sorry

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asd26:

does mythtv have a screensaver..lol

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sL|Hoxzer:

why dont u guys just tell me possible reasons for Segmentation fault?

[12:47:06]

TinheadNed:

sL|Hoxzer: something is broken

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sL|Hoxzer:

:E

[12:48:01]

sL|Hoxzer:

I have become that conclusion like half and year ago

[12:48:34]

sL|Hoxzer:

BUt segementation fault means that mythbackend is trying to acces somewhere that it is not allowed

[12:48:46]

sL|Hoxzer:

is it possible that the problem is with mysql DB?

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TinheadNed:

sL|Hoxzer: it means it is accessing some memory that is not allowed

[12:49:06]

sL|Hoxzer:

Yeah

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ivor:

TinheadNed: not sure. I know daniel was playing with the xvmc code recently (for nvidia) but I only use vld-xvmc which works just fine.

[12:49:12]

TinheadNed:

sL|Hoxzer: does mysql continue to run?

[12:49:19]

sL|Hoxzer:

Yeah

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ivor:

I'm just booting up the nvidia box at the moment and I'll see how it runs for me.

[12:49:38]

sL|Hoxzer:

at least I think so because I can acces to it

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TinheadNed:

ivor: well, i just changed nothing, reinstalled it, and now it says "suceeded" and is even worse, and doesn't display anything

[12:49:52]

TinheadNed:

sL|Hoxzer: then it's not mysql

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TinheadNed:

ivor: cool

[12:50:00]

sL|Hoxzer:

:/ ok

[12:50:13]

TinheadNed:

sL|Hoxzer: you running from source?

[12:50:24]

sL|Hoxzer:

do u think it might be mythbackend 0.19-fixes?

[12:50:33]

sL|Hoxzer:

just some bug or something?

[12:50:46]

TinheadNed:

sL|Hoxzer: i couldn't say, sorry :/

[12:50:54]

sL|Hoxzer:

:/ oh

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TinheadNed:

ivor: i think maybe svn head is not for me :(

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ivor:

TinheadNed: well if you want to do any development its what you need. and xvmc 'should' be working, otherwise there'd be blood in the streets.

[12:58:10]

ivor:

haven't noticed any major "xvmc not working" mails to mythtv-dev recently either.

[12:58:23]

ivor:

so hopefully it's something straightforward.

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TinheadNed:

ivor: perhaps I'm just still a bit too new at this mythtv lark

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sL|Hoxzer:

is there any else stable release than mythtv 0.19-fixes (svn) ?

[13:00:36]

TinheadNed:

sL|Hoxzer: when do you get segfaults, anyway?

[13:00:52]

sL|Hoxzer:

TinheadNEd: it can come when backend is just idling

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sL|Hoxzer:

but normally in the beginging of recording or in the end of it

[13:01:35]

TinheadNed:

sL|Hoxzer: if you're running from source, you could run the backend in gdb, and then get a backtrace when it crashes – a dev could help you find the problem with that

[13:02:15]

TinheadNed:

ivor: i'm upgrading to the new nvidia release from a few days back

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sL|Hoxzer:

TinheadNed: :D ... maybe I'm too noob but I dunno what do u mean by "gdb" or "dev"

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TinheadNed:

sL|Hoxzer: gdb is a program called the gnu debugger. you just run "gdb mythbackend" and then type run. by dev i mean developer

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sL|Hoxzer:

ok

[13:04:21]

sL|Hoxzer:

Well I try

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TinheadNed:

ivor: I'm going to go back to 0.19, and try to understand that one better first

[13:11:16]

ivor:

TinheadNed: sure.

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TinheadNed:

ivor: i feel bad :(

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TinheadNed:

;)

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TinheadNed:

ivor: there isn't any info on xvmc in 0.19 – don't think I'm using it, but I can't tell

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ivor:

TinheadNed: what did configure say?

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TinheadNed:

0.19 installed by gentoo, I'd have to check

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TinheadNed:

one sec

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TinheadNed:

XvMC support yes

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TinheadNed:

XvMC VLD support yes

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TinheadNed:

XvMC pro support no

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TinheadNed:

XvMC libs -lXvMCW

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ivor:

TinheadNed: ok. if you're on nvidia then linking directly against the nvidia xvmc library is probably preferable

[13:25:42]

TinheadNed:

ivor: that's what I'm thinking – what is the xvmcw lib anyway?

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ivor:

its the xvmc 'wrapper' library

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** enyc wonders if mythtv-users are aware of problems with mythtrasnscode daemon wisbehaving **

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enyc:

misbehaving

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enyc:

in recent 0.19-fixes like that included in KnoppMyth R5C7

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ivor:

lets you link a binary against one library and run against whatever version of xvmc is installed. handy for distros.

[13:28:34]

TinheadNed:

ivor: how do I tell if it's working?

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enyc:

-- mythtranscode daemon keeps attemping to read dvd drv..... but never sees a disk is there.... and ferever 'un-ejects' and disk....

[13:29:27]

ivor:

TinheadNed: you should see the fact xvmc is being used logged. and lower cpu usage when playing back mpeg2.

[13:29:44]

ivor:

and if you don't have chroma-key osd enabled you'll get a black and white OSD.

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TinheadNed:

ivor: definitely have a colour osd :)

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** enyc wonders whit XvMc is useful..... **

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** ivor wonders whats wrong with enyc's keyboard. **

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** enyc wonders if this is really to help when video sppe-freq. does not match display frequency/mode..... **

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enyc:

my keyboard is fine ;-)

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** enyc just not typing so-well today! **

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TinheadNed:

ivor: i think it's working now – cpu usage on this 1300MHz duron is 30–40%

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ivor:

TinheadNed: sounds good.

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** enyc wants to know if XvMC is there to compensate for different video / monitor modes/frequency **

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TinheadNed:

enyc: no – it's hardware mpeg2 decoding

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enyc:

aaaah ok

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TinheadNed:

ivor: I think I'll try this again in a few months, when i've moved house and have more free time

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TinheadNed:

gonna do some work

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TinheadNed:

bbl

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asd26:

dam 300watt power supplkt makes too much noise

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master_:

Hi

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master_:

anybody translate mythtv in to russian?

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sha:

hi, is there anyone who uses a working tv_grab_de_tvtoday for filling channel-data?

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VlivE:

ya I have having trouble pulling transponders too?

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VlivE:

anyone?

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VlivE:

12253000 200000000 5/6

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VlivE:

timeout scanning freqency --no signal

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VlivE:

??

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psofa:

is there any remote frontend to myth? i mean id like to change channels via cli

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psofa:

hmm im not making much sense

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psofa:

i mean if i can connect to myth via tcp or sth and send some commands like telnet

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Anduin:

psofa: Yes.

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psofa:

ah yes found it in the docs :)

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VlivE:

any ideas on y my frequency scan isn't working?

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janneg:

VlivE: are the values correct?

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psofa:

VlivE, remember that the feqs in myth are a bit strange in terms of units

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psofa:

for example symbolrate is usually 27500

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psofa:

but myth wants it 27500000 iirc

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psofa:

same with frequencies

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psofa:

VlivE, whats the second number you have there? if its a symbol rate it doesnt seem good

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VlivE:

well

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VlivE:

according to my NA guide the freq: 12224000 and 200000000 or 122530000 and 200000000

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VlivE:

are the ones to use

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VlivE:

least thats what langsat shows

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VlivE:

what would you try psofa?

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psofa:

an example good looking dvb-s frequency for myth is 12015000 and a standard symbol rate is 27500000

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psofa:

i dont know what 200000000 represents. Is it a symbol rate?

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psofa:

show me the lyngsat link

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VlivE:

http://www.lyngsat.com/echo7.html

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psofa:

lyngsat says symbolrate 20000 that means you should tell myth the symbol rate is 20000000

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psofa:

you have one more zero

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VlivE:

what about the freq's

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VlivE:

12224000 ?

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psofa:

yes

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psofa:

and 12253000

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VlivE:

k

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VlivE:

thanks that worked

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VlivE:

I have another question

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VlivE:

1 dvb card with 4 port diseq

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VlivE:

should it be 1 video device configured 4 times for input

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VlivE:

or 4 video device configured for each?

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VlivE:

sats=119,110,91,82

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|splat|:

anyone use xine/gxine to watch hdtv?

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VlivE:

with myth?

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|splat|:

more interested in standalone

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VlivE:

I have watched it with vdr

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VlivE:

but not myth

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|splat|:

my xine keeps telling me i don't have a input plugin for it

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VlivE:

actually I am going to test 8psk hdtv with myth

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|splat|:

i haven't really looked too much in to myth because i'm using this computer as a desktop...but does myth run its own X session or can it be run over an existing X session

[16:02:58]

|splat|:

i've mostly been using the myth wiki to get my card working

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VlivE:

I don't know

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VlivE:

I am new to myth

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VlivE:

but I have been using vdr for like 4 years

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AngryElf:

there are some settings that are not stored in the database, one for instance is the video-player settings (which command is run)....i assume this command is stored somewhere, anyone know where?

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|splat|:

did you have to do anythign special to xine to get it to play vdr?

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VlivE:

yes compiled direct-frame-buffer and xine

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VlivE:

and used df_xine as the app

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|splat|:

i'm reading the readme.dvb and it pretty much sounds like its good to go

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|splat|:

in xine

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|splat|:

i downloaded xawtv too, can't get that working...same with mplayer

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sha:

|splat|: myth can (will) be started by default over an existing X session

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|splat|:

sha: ok, then i guess i'll give it a try...see if it can let me watch hdtv

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sha:

|splat|: you should take a look at your tv-card-chipset

[16:09:25]

sha:

|splat|: xawtv will only work with bttv-cards

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|splat|:

sha: ah. well its a ati hdtv wonder...i got all the drivers installed and i can use azap to get my channel list

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|splat|:

but i can't get xine or mplayer to watch them

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speedsix:

Hi all

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pickler:

hi speedsix

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VlivE:

would this be the correct setting as far as # of digits for a 1.1 4way diseqc?

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speedsix:

does anyone's mythbackend ever go down?

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pickler:

yes, mine occasionally does, but it's relatively rare

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VlivE:

lnb loft:99999000 high:11250000 low:11250000

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VlivE:

does that look right?

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pickler:

speedsix: i've recently submitted a report about my frontend seg faulting after i upgraded a couple of libs

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VlivE:

anyone?

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speedsix:

pickler, I think something I'm doing in the frontend is causing the backend to go splat

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psofa:

Hmm the telnet interface cant reveil the currently playing channel

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psofa:

any ideas?

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pickler:

speedsix: in my own experience, i've not had the backend fail, without the frontend failing first

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psofa:

can i get it from mysql?

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speedsix:

picklet I see, sounds like the same things happening here

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pickler:

speedsix: how often does it occur?

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speedsix:

It's only happended twice, since I upgraded to a new svn of 0.19-fixes

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speedsix:

Can you have a look at http://pastebin.com/743024 for a sec..

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speedsix:

Why does Current/Newest schema not match?

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pickler:

speedsix: sorry, I'm not a patcher, so i wouldn't have the full picture, :/ I'm sure someone with more experience with the fixes may aid you better than I.

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speedsix:

Ok no problem

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|splat|:

anyone know how i get mplayer to recognize dvb://

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janneg:

compile mplayer with dvb support

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psofa:

can i learn through mysql the status of frontends/backends?

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psofa:

i need to learn the current channel

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AngryElf:

anyone in here managed getting dvds working on an amd64, and if so, how?

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ficusplanet:

Hey everyone. I have a combined frontend/backend with a PVR-500 and a frontend in a separate room. Do anyone know of a good IR receiver + remote to pick up for that second frontend?

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|splat|:

well, compiling mplayer with --enable-dvb didn't do anything

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master_:

anybody know something about translate mythfrontend in to another lang?

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master_:

on mythtv.org i am don't find anything

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paulc38:

anyone having problems with no video device in debian? Everything was working, but just updated my system and now it won't "find" any video devices

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psofa:

master_, i think mythfrontend has translations

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psofa:

it uses the locale variables

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master_:

psofa, but not in russian :(

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psofa:

master_, i think there are some xml files

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psofa:

these are the files that mythfrontend uses for its menus

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psofa:

master_, /usr/share/mythtv/

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psofa:

in my distro at least

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psofa:

there are some translations there

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master_:

I am add "RU" tags in all xml, but mythfrontend is collapse

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Juski:

evening folks

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speedsix:

Juski, howdy

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Juski:

hi speedsix. I'm back on SVN again

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speedsix:

all working ok?

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Juski:

not really.

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Juski:

dvb radio seems broken, as does interactive stuff

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Juski:

scanning is good now though

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speedsix:

0.20?

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Juski:

yup

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speedsix:

is this a spare box or your 'main' system?

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Juski:

heh ... as if... spare box ;-)

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Juski:

dammit. DHL parcel tracking is a pain. I've got a number in the form "xxx.yyy aaa.bbb c" but that doesn't seem like a valid waybill

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speedsix:

Just realised I still had the standard mythtv/mythtv user/pass on my backend machine. Not a good idea with SSH access

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Juski:

woops

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Juski:

how do you get into the mheg stuff in livetv again?

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speedsix:

Was just reading the thread on mythtvtalk.com about the unsecured mythweb access

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speedsix:

no idea.. press red? ;)

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Juski:

lol

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speedsix:

How would one go about donating money to the mythtv 'cause' if one decides as such come payday?

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Juski:

buy me loads of beers at the lugradiolive show

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speedsix:

hmm, I think that would be detrimental to the cause somewhat ;)

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Juski:

some of the developers don't like monetary donations

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speedsix:

ok fair enough, what are the donations on mythtalk.com I noticed under user names? Server space?

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Juski:

spend the money on tar & feathers, then we'll form a posse & go after Microsoft's guys who came up with MCE

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Juski:

speedsix: that's to pay for bandwidth etc

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speedsix:

Tar and feathers, check ;)

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Juski:

apparently there's going to be some guy from MS at the lugradiolive thing. Dunno what that's all about

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speedsix:

I've got the idea in my head to make a dual X server machine to solve my focus probs

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speedsix:

I'm sure he'll be very welcome :/

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Juski:

2 X servers? the mind boggles.. well mine does anyway

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speedsix:

Yeah I know, someone in here mentioned they did it, Greyfoxx?

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Juski:

yup

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speedsix:

My machine sits right next to the screen so I'm struggling trying to justify building a dedicated frontend machine when with a little (a lot) of faffing I can have a 2 in 1 type thang

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speedsix:

Atm I'm just running a simple 2 screen setup but like I say it's a pita when the frontend loses focus

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Juski:

I used to have the occasional trouble with my old frontend machine, but that was with a full desktop

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speedsix:

What he neglected to mention (read I probably wasn't paying attention) was you need 2 physical graphics cards and not just a dualhead card

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Juski:

ahh

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speedsix:

Also the second screen which the frontend runs on doesn't seem to be fully initialised when you add the frontend to start on login. TV is all blue, maybe an overlay problem

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speedsix:

Not to mention the joy of making all your desktop apps output sound via the regular desktop pc speakers but set all the stuff that runs on the tv to output via the spdif to the amp!

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Juski:

tricky ;-)

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speedsix:

it's ok if everything uses native alsa, just specify spdif on the command line

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speedsix:

That's the one thing I've always hated in linux since day one is all these bloomin sound servers

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speedsix:

Juski, I know what I was supposed to ask you, my backend seemed to go down some time last night, it finished recording a film at about 01:05 but the backend was down when I checked this morn. Can you have a quick look at this log section http://pastebin.com/743024 (around the time it went down)

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Juski:

no idea

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speedsix:

what's with the Current Schema Version: 1137- Newest Schema Version : 1123 bit?

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speedsix:

shouldn't they match.. what does it mean 'Newest Schema'?

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GreyFoxx:

sounds likle you either have mismatched backend/fr4ontend versions

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GreyFoxx:

or you downgraded

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speedsix:

GreyFoxx, by downgraded do you mean ran a newer version that upgraded the schema previously?

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GreyFoxx:

right

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speedsix:

What does 'Newest Schema' refer to?

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GreyFoxx:

the version that the application expects to find, current is whatthe databsaeis currently at

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speedsix:

I see

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speedsix:

Can I ask what you would suggest I do with this? Both frontend/backend are running the latest svn-0.19-fixes. I can't remember installing a version that would have had a higher schema, maybe I installed a trunk release at some point. thanks

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GreyFoxx:

./

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speedsix:

Juski, is the 0.20 you're using what I would get if I svn'd from the trunk?

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mtgeekman:

hello again every one :)

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vid01:

Hi

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mtgeekman:

can any one here tell me why im hearing the audio from live tv and the audio from the bufferd live tv at the same time? its like an echo ( the video that plays is the buffered)

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pickler:

how is the audio of the tv card pathced through?

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mtgeekman:

externaly :/ output of TV tuner to input of soundcard

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pickler:

:)

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pickler:

probably that's it

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mtgeekman:

>.<

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jams:

you want to mute the linein

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mtgeekman:

but that will kill all the audio

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jams:

mute for playback not record

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pickler:

it shouldn't kill the... what jams said

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mtgeekman:

:o

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vid01:

When i run "modprobe bttv" i get a "no such device" error

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vid01:

/lib/modules/2.4.27-2–586tsc/kernel/drivers/media/video/bttv.o: init_module: No such device

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vid01:

Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including inva lid IO or IRQ parameters.

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jams:

section 7.1 of the docs lists various ways of muting linein

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mtgeekman:

ty

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VlivE:

2.4? kenrel

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VlivE:

kernel dam

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VlivE:

who still uses that?

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Zider:

586, who still uses that? :P

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VlivE:

zactly

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Zider:

dunno what tsc is, but.. who still uses that? ;)

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vid01:

.-.

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mtgeekman:

lol ok i've gotten rid of the echo but now all i hear is the live TV audio :)

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mtgeekman:

oh well :/ ill probably just have to go buy a better tuner card

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gbee:

any ideas whether the reason my CD/DVD drives always spin faster than they need to during CD/DVD playback is to do with mythtv or just some linux configuration I've overlooked for all this time?

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gbee:

they can be a little noisy during the quiet moments in a film/music, if it's purely down to how Myth is accessing the media I'll look at writing a patch but controlling CD/DVD access speeds is not something I know anything about

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jams:

gbee have a look at hdparm

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master_:

anybody know something about translate mythfrontend in to another lang?

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jams:

you can set the speef od the cdrom/dvd drive with it

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master_:

and support locale by mythtv?

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gbee:

hmm, that will set the global access speed, not just that which Myth uses ... I can patch it so that Myth will run hdparm on the device and return it to defaults when exiting though there has to be a better way if I'm going to be hacking at the code

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master_:

i am using russian locale, all setup correctly. All players use russian filenames and tags, but mythmusic shows id3 tags uncorrect

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jams:

master_- don't know for sure.

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jams:

Thought mythmusic was updated for utf8..but like I said ,really don't know

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master_:

anybody using non-english Myth? what about idtags in music?

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master_:

i try use utf8 tags

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speedsix:

Silly question but when you 'make' something can you distribute this over the network to faster computers?

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moemoe:

speedsix: try distcc

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speedsix:

moemoe, thanks i'll look into that

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x2:

speedsix, depend on arch

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speedsix:

x2, right ok. P3 > A64

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x2:

bah owned :)

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x2:

well u have to install all toolchain on the other computer

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speedsix:

right

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x2:

(gcc, binutils, glibc)

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speedsix:

think i'll give it a miss for now

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x2:

but u know distcc isnt so nice ..

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x2:

when i want upgrade a slow computer, i usualy take the harddisk or mount / with nfs

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x2:

tat's the faster way

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speedsix:

I'm trying to compile myth svn on a p3 1gig. Sometimes it goes reasonable quickly but others it seems to slow to a crawl and keeps printing msgs from distcc saying it cannot distribute (which is why I was asking about distributing)

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speedsix:

odd

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GreyFoxx:

speedsix: You have to configure it to distribute to the other machines,and ofcourse distccd must be running on the other machines

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speedsix:

right ok, seems to want to use distcc by default on this machine (Knoppmyth)

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GreyFoxx:

if it's detected myth will atempt to use it and ccache if it's available

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GreyFoxx:

unless you configure it to notuse them

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GreyFoxx:

or I should say, if it's detected the mythmakefiles/configure script will try to use it :)

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mishehu:

actually, last I know you can tell it to disable trying to use distcc

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GreyFoxx:

Which is whatI said :)

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GreyFoxx:

"<GreyFoxx> unless you configure it to notuse them"

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GreyFoxx:

:)

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GreyFoxx:

though honestly, even if you are not using distcc on other machines, it's not gonna hurt you to let it try to be used

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TTT_Travis:

how powerful of a system would I need to be recording a show on 3 pvr-150s at once?

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GreyFoxx:

ummm a celeron 300 ?

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GreyFoxx:

likely something smaller would work

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TTT_Travis:

k

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TTT_Travis:

good

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TTT_Travis:

how good would the system need to be to play video that it records?

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GreyFoxx:

450–600mhz would be okif properly configured

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TTT_Travis:

k

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TTT_Travis:

well I have a 1.3 ghz athlon so it should be enough

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GreyFoxx:

My PC frontends are P3 650's

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TTT_Travis:

just wanted to double check all of that

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TTT_Travis:

ok

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TTT_Travis:

sweet

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TTT_Travis:

sounds good

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TTT_Travis:

I will have a few front ends too

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TTT_Travis:

for my sisters room and the basement living room

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TTT_Travis:

and my room

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TTT_Travis:

thanks

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enyc:

Question/comments-wanted: I have a NVIDIA mx4000 AGP TV-out card. the TV-connector is a 7-pin mini-DIN. the connector appears to have 2 grounds and 3* 75ohm driving-lines., 2 of which are the ordinary S-video positions for Y,C -- ?what is the 3rd for? -- ?can I activate YUV/YPbPr/RGB modes?

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speedsix:

Ok I'm doing something stupid. Just uninstalled my current svn-0.9-fixes release and compiled a trunk release. Did a make install but when I attempt to start the backend I get..

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speedsix:

mythbackend: error while loading shared libraries: libmythtv-0.19.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

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x2:

ok girls

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x2:

let's try mythtv

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x2:

let's see how good it is

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x2:

took whole night to compile it :p

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bobc:

I'm getting an error with mythweb (.19-fixes) saying that I need to install mysql libraries for PHP, however I have. phpmyadmin runs fine, just not mythweb. does anyone have any idea of what I could look at?

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bobc:

is there any problem with mythweb using mysql5 and php5?

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x2:

thanks a lot for gentoo ebuild

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x2:

they works fine

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bobc:

speedfix: did you do a make distclean before compiling?

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speedsix:

bobc, it's ok got it working now, but I'm not sure how! ;)

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bobc:

whatever works!

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speedsix:

:)

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speedsix:

hmm, few little problems, I don't seem to have a /usr/local/bin/mythcommflag??

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bobc:

I would definitely suggest a make distclean if you hadn't before compiling. otherwise, no idea

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speedsix:

what's the dif between make clean and make distclean?

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x2:

clean = *.o

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x2:

distclean = clean + Makefile + exec

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x2:

well all :p

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speedsix:

oh ok cheers

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dscoular:

speedsix, means you have to remake the configure program with autoconf, automake and friends on autoconf based projects... not entirely sure about myth's hybrid of configure and qmake.

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speedsix:

right i'm off for the night, laters. thanks for the help

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speedsix:

right I see

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chuck:

so yeah I ran the mkiconmap.pl script from the contrib dir of the latest SVN source for myth, and and it says that my postal code is invalid (I'm in north america) anybody have this happen to them?

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VlivE:

just install svn-2053 and channel scan don't work?

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VlivE:

is that correct?

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chuck:

say wha?

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VlivE:

?

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VlivE:

anyone

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enyc:

meep ;-)

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VlivE:

at all?

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braniff:

how do i configure MythFlix ??

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jams:

braniff- the mythflix readme does a good job of answering your question

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braniff:

"Cut and paste the url into netflix table with the is_queue flag set." <-- How do i set the is_queue flag ????

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psofa:

VlivE, maybe they changed the freq units?

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psofa:

just a wild guess :)

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psofa:

but i doubt it :/

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jams:

just run that sql, but replace [your queue rss url] with your rss url which can be found on the netflix site

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braniff:

ok

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** xris wishes his hard drive was faster **

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braniff:

i just installed a new SATA drive and it screams (relative to my old IDE)

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xris:

braniff: well, I'm getting 20–30M/sec copying files around on it.. just not fast enough when I have half a dozen 10G files to copu

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xris:

(setting up xen)

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braniff:

ah

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