Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Wednesday, April 19th, 2006, 00:00 UTC

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gardengnome:

Juski: heh

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kormoc:

mmead, lirc doesn't touch ivtv

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** kormoc waves to Chutt2 **

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mchou:

kormoc: sure it does

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mmead:

kormoc: for lirc_i2c it does

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mmead:

I will try against 0.4.2

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kormoc:

mmead, I thought that touched the i2c stuff, not ivtv, as I built lirc before ivtv most of the time.

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** kormoc shrug **

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kormoc:

s

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mmead:

seems there is some source incompatibility

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mmead:

hmm

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mmead:

you're right

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mchou:

the pvr-150 remote uses i2c bus

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mmead:

so it looks like lirc 0.8.0 doesn't build against the i2c in 2.6.16

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Juski:

right... bedtime.. nytol

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mchou:

man, this is some weird shit

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mchou:

dct-6200 firmware goes into funky state

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mmead:

mchou: any idea how to get lirc to build against 2.6.16 ?

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mchou:

mmead: hehe, dont use lirc myself

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mmead:

ahh

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mchou:

so no idea

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mchou:

mmead: what's the compile error?

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mmead:

invalid identifiers in struct i2c_driver

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mchou:

mmead: heh, you made sure all the .h files were in proper places? :)

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mmead:

mchou: yep

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mmead:

mchou: found a gentoo user submitted patch

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mmead:

I will try it after scanning

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mchou:

hehe. I dont trust gentoo kiddies

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mmead:

what distro you use?

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mmead:

mostly just scanning for trojans

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mmead:

wow, it built

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mchou:

therefore it must be working :)

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mmead:

hah, sure

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mchou:

j/k :)

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mmead:

I'm on deb here

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mmead:

well, the i2c attached

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mchou:

I'm on mandriva, soo to move elsewhere

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mchou:

soon*

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mmead:

cool

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mmead:

looks like it works, irw spits out stuff

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mchou:

mmead: well, maybe those gentoo kiddies add value after all

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mmead:

:)

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mmead:

ok

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mmead:

now to try to get mythtv-setup to add a fw tuner

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mmead:

jeez

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mmead:

doh, build new nvidia mod

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psofa:

do i have to run mythfilldatabase to fill myth with the dvb eit(?) data?

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mmead:

psofa: I think there is an eit scan option somewhere in the setup

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psofa:

mmead, you mean where i select what type of guide i want?

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psofa:

yep i know

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mmead:

mchou: great, nvidia driver doesn't build on 2.6.16~

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mchou:

mmead: yeah, you need some nvidia patches

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mmead:

mchou: yep

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mchou:

I thought the lastest nvidia official drivers didnt need patches, though

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mchou:

frankly dont recall any more, heh

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Anduin:

It doesn't.

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mmead:

I don't use the latest, I use 8178

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mchou:

8178 is the worst

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mmead:

8178 has been the only version to properly sync at 60hz on my projector

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mchou:

avoid at all costs

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mmead:

mchou: maybe I can tell the PJ how to adjust the image

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mmead:

ok, now I'm ready to pull my hair out

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mchou:

shit, I just heard the click of death from my drive

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mmead:

all that and it still doesn't show me a firewire card option in mythtv-setup

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mmead:

what gives

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mchou:

like a bad relay

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dtm:

mchou: noooOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

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mchou:

I dont even know which drive

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mmead:

mchou: what do I need to do in order to get it to give me the option of adding a fw capture card? the "Cart type" box only has analog v4l capture card in it

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dtm:

mchou: dmesg

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mmead:

mchou: I always get DMA errors on the drives that are making the clicking

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mmead:

mchou: in dmesg

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mchou:

could be my usb drive, so no msg in dmesg

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mmead:

mchou: when you got fw going were you able to select fw as a card type in mythtv-setup?

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mchou:

mmead: yeah

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mmead:

mchou: anything you can think of for me to investigate why it's not showing up?

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mchou:

make sure test-mpeg2 works first :)

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gardengnome:

mmead: re: firewire: i didn't follow your problem, but did you compile mythtv with firewire support?

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mmead:

gardengnome: yeah, ldd mythbackend and mythtv-setup shows the three 1394 libs needed

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mchou:

yeah, what gardengnome said too

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gardengnome:

mmead: ok.

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mmead:

mchou: what is test-mpeg2?

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mchou:

make sure /dev/raw1394 exists

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mmead:

does

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mchou:

plugreport works?

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mmead:

http://pastebin.ca/49812

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mmead:

mchou: yep

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mmead:

mchou: where do you get test-mpeg2?

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mchou:

mmead: so mythtv-setup should work then

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mmead:

mchou: I would think so

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SlicerDicer-:

anybody have any idea what would cause it so the frontend can connect to the database but the backend cannot?

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SlicerDicer-:

haha

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mmead:

mchou: but it never does anything right on the first time for me :)

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SlicerDicer-:

I have tried both the IP and localhost

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mmead:

SlicerDicer: backend connects to localhost, frontend uses settings in .mythtv/mysql.txt

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SlicerDicer-:

backend aint workin :/

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SlicerDicer-:

and now I know why

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mmead:

SlicerDicer: grant all privileges to 'user'@'localhost' etc

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mmead:

SlicerDicer: for whatever user runs backend

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SlicerDicer-:

mmead: I think its a pebkac

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mmead:

mchou: what version of libiec61883 should I be using?

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mchou:

the latest :)

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mchou:

from svn

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mmead:

I'm just using deb packages

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mchou:

well, use the latest deb pkg then

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mmead:

should it come with test-mpeg2?

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mchou:

most likely

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SlicerDicer-:

not a pebkac but something went wrong with QT thats for sure

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SlicerDicer-:

there is no qmysql3 driver heh

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mmead:

libqt3-mt-mysql

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mmead:

mchou: how would I tell if test-mpeg2 was successful?

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mmead:

mchou: it appears to not output anything

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AngryElf:

i have a stupid question: in mythWeather, why does the forecast start 2 days from the current instead of tomorrow?

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mmead:

mchou: test-mpeg2 is receiving properly

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mchou:

mmead: dunno what to tell ya. mythtv-setup should work if compile with 1394 support

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mchou:

compiled*

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mmead:

mchou: hrm

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mmead:

mchou: maybe I just need to recompile

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mmead:

mchou: wow

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mmead:

mchou: it is pulling espnhd clear

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mmead:

mchou: and discovery hd

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mchou:

those are always "free" :)

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mmead:

well, good

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mchou:

get those even on my FusionHDTV

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mmead:

inhd as well

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mmead:

nice

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mmead:

figured comcast would lock them

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mmead:

so mythtv should work if test-mpeg2 does

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mchou:

they will eventually

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mmead:

mythtv-setup should just have the firewire card available?

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mchou:

yup

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mmead:

digital channels appear to work, too

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mmead:

(non-hd)

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mmead:

grr, maddening

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mmead:

laptop, dying

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mmead:

looks like SD channels are 528x480

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sphing:

mmead where are you

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mmead:

sphing: va

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sphing:

anyone is washington?

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mishehu:

bah.

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kormoc:

sphing, sure, SlicerDicer and xris both are in WA with firewire setups

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mmead:

mchou: http://pastebin.ca/49820

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mmead:

mchou: does that look correct for fw config?

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sphing:

kormoc: music to my ears... i'm moving there in 6 weeks

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mmead:

I love ccache

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sphing:

kormoc: you know what city?

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kormoc:

sphing, xris is South Seattle, SlicerDicer- is North Bend

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sphing:

sweet... i'm seattle

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kormoc:

sphing, cool, you should come to one of the wonderful mythtv-users meetups! :)

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kormoc:

sphing, last one we had, it was only xris and myself :P

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sphing:

really.?

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sphing:

haha

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xris:

kormoc: you mean the "you and I hang out like we usually do anyway" things?

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mchou:

mmead: config looks right

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kormoc:

xris, yeah, that one :P

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sphing:

xris/kormoc pm?

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kormoc:

sphing, sure

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mmead:

mchou: thanks

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Venzon:

Anyone using FireWire capture? I can't access the Recording Profiles screen with my FireWire Input...

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mmead:

Venzon: I wish I were using it :)(

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mchou:

Venzon: that's cause by definition there is no recording profile on firewire

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mmead:

looks like I last built this as not-root, ccache is not speeding it up

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mchou:

Venzon: it's not like you get a choice on bit rate with firewire

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Venzon:

right, but then how do i enable auto-transcoding?

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mchou:

you enable it on the recordings

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Venzon:

to enable auto-transcoding you have to enable it on the recordings AND in your recording profile

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Venzon:

it's enabled on the recordings

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Venzon:

but it's not auto-transcoding

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mchou:

submit a bug report then :)

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Venzon:

probably because i don't have it enabled in my recording profile... because there is no recording profile for firewire

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Venzon:

okay

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Venzon:

just making sure i wasn't missing something obvious

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Venzon:

where do you do bug reports, anyway?

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mchou:

most likely the trancoding job crashed

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mchou:

transcoding*

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Venzon:

i suspect it's not even starting the auto-transcode

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Venzon:

because if i transcode manually it works fine

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Venzon:

it's just a pain to always do it manually :-)

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mchou:

Venzon: why?

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mchou:

do it in cron

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Venzon:

i only want to transcode certain shows

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Venzon:

how would i set that up in cron?

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mchou:

which certain shows?

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Venzon:

for example, 24, because it's broadcast in HDTV

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mchou:

that's easy. every Wed. morning @12AM (in cron) you trancode shows you recorded the last 6 hrs

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mchou:

I meant Tues., since 24 occurs on Mon.

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Venzon:

and then i go set that up for every one of my shows whenever it's on? if it's that or doing it manually, i'll just do it manually

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mmead:

Venzon: you could select data out of mythconverg to figure out what was recorded

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mchou:

Venzon: dont be ridiculous

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Venzon:

doing it manually is really easy, i can just initiate it from the recordings screen

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mchou:

all HD channels have high numbers

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Venzon:

and i'm thinking maybe i can fiddle with the mythconverg database to set my firewire profile to have autotranscoding enabled

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mchou:

and all recordings start with chanid

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Venzon:

yeah, that's true

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bRuZdEGO:

I have two problems. i've dumped them at http://pastebin.ca/49829

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bRuZdEGO:

any help would be appreciated

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AngryElf:

is there an option in any of the setup pages for enabling/disabling native lirc support that i may have accidentally changed?

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mchou:

bRuZdEGO: haha!! IOBOUND

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mmead:

bRuZdEGO: I usually just touch the file so that it will get removed

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mmead:

bRuZdEGO: no idea on the second

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mchou:

obviously your disks are suffering :)

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mmead:

dma on?

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mchou:

6 recordings at once?? Do you even have a job? :)

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mmead:

mchou: it looks like I have libraw1394–5 and libraw1394–8

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AngryElf:

so, i've got two FEs up now, both with lirc — same remote, and one of them will not support lirc inside of myth and the other one works fine.....the funny thing is, if i play a DVD from inside mfe (using xine) the remote works fine

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AngryElf:

i'm using the exact same ~/.lircrc and ~/.mythtv/lircrc files on both boxes

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kormoc:

AngryElf, the one myth wasn't compiled with lirc support would be my guess

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AngryElf:

mythfrontend --version says using_lirc

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dscoular:

AngryElf: what about your lircd.conf is it identical ?

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AngryElf:

and it was working using the same setup, but i changed messed with the lircd.conf file a little and then it stopped......BUT irw on the broken box is working fine (so is xine)

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AngryElf:

yes they're identical now

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dscoular:

AngryElf: apologies for this question: lircd has been restart on both ?

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mmead:

ok, I am at my wits' end

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mmead:

myth has been recompiled

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mmead:

test-mpeg2 captures content from the firewire

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mmead:

mythtv-setup will not give me more than "Analog v4l capture card" in the card selection

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AngryElf:

dscoular, yes

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dscoular:

AngryElf: that is pretty weird then.

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AngryElf:

native lirc wans't working on both till i found the aliases file in ubuntu...and that cleared it up on both

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AngryElf:

but then i went to change the lircd.conf (on both) and now it won't work on the one box :(

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mmead:

kormoc, mchou: any other ideas on why fw wouldn't show up?

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dscoular:

AngryElf: so both boxes have identical cards and remotes ?

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AngryElf:

cards? I use the same physical remote on both (for now)

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kormoc:

mmead, not really, it's rather creepy that it's not

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mmead:

kormoc: ldd shows libavc1394, libiec61883, libraw1394

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bRuZdEGO:

ah, ok.... thanks mmead

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Hotwheelz:

anyone running the FusionHDTV DVB-T Dual Digital? otherwise are there any other DVB-T Dual Digital cards that work for Australia?

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dscoular:

AngryElf: what kind of IR receiver do the FEs have ?

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bRuZdEGO:

mchou, haha? whats so funny about it? what does it mean? :)

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mmead:

kormoc:

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mmead:

kormoc: whoa

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mmead:

kormoc: I had a spurious line in cardinput for a nonexistent card

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mmead:

kormoc: removing it changed things

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dscoular:

Hotwheelz: I'm in Sydney and have a old Nova-T and an AverMedia USB 2 DVB-T tuner

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kormoc:

mmead, really? wacky

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mmead:

kormoc: very

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AngryElf:

serial...plugged into the comm port

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AngryElf:

dscoular, ^

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AngryElf:

i'm recompiling, but i really dont think it's gonna help

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mishehu:

bah

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mishehu:

ok, so now I know it's either a kernel issue or something fucked with the mythbox machine, as I can record over firewire from my motorola 6200 just fine from 2 other machines, one windoze and one linux.

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bRuZdEGO:

http://pastebin.ca/49831 <---- just got this error now? any ideas on how to fix?

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Dug02:

what is the fastest wm to use with myth?

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thechris:

are there any more stable releases then myth 0.19?

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GreyFoxx:

Personally I like ICEWM

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Glasswalkr:

Hello, having a bit of a problem... Just got my mythtv box working perfectly the other day... which is great. I have a dual P3–1G box with 1G of ram, and a 80g hdd and a PVR-150, working very well... So I decided time to add a second tuner for pip, and dual recording/watching tv efficiency...

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GreyFoxx:

thechris: Well there is 0.19-fixes, but it's not really a "release"

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Glasswalkr:

Problem is my second tuner (an identical pvr-150) will not tune channels for some reason... any suggestions for troubleshooting?

[01:26:57]

thechris:

Just today, my tv tuners both stopped working at the same time...

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thechris:

Glasswalkr: dmesg | grep tuner

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Dug02:

is xfce faster than kde?

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thechris:

Glasswalkr: is it detected?

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GreyFoxx:

Dug02: Much

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Glasswalkr:

I have allready tried it in different PCI slot, also tried bypassing the splitter, tried putting it directly in plce of the old tuner with the same coax and everything, still nothing... it detects it fine, sees it as right card, and I configure it in mythtv-setup then scan for channels... nothing.

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Dug02:

GreyFoxx: thx... so xfce is the best of the default fc5 wm?

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thechris:

Is it normal for mythtv to work for a month, then stop working?

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Dug02:

best = lightweight low memory fast

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mmead:

thechris: yes :)

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GreyFoxx:

Dug02: I have no idea what Fedora puts out

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Glasswalkr:

I did the dmesg thing, and noticed dozens of lines saying "tuner 1–0061: tuner type not set"

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GreyFoxx:

I always use IceWM

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eiggirC:

Glasswalkr: are they slightly different versions?

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thechris:

i restarted the computer, and it took less then 1 hour for mythbackend to die on me...

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Glasswalkr:

one sec let me shut the box down and pull it out to check (they looked EXACTLY alike at first glance)

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eiggirC:

Glasswalkr: its a damn shame you didn't flogg the first 150 and buy a pvr-500 :/

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eiggirC:

wait

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eiggirC:

Glasswalkr: try lspci first

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AngryElf:

i think in general it's normal for myth to work for a month and then die because we have a perpetual need to make things "better"

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mmead:

thechris: when I finally come to a working config, I lock down and don't touch anything

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mmead:

thechris: then I get mad ideas like getting a HD cable box and setting up firewire, and throw a wrench into everything again

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eiggirC:

Glasswalkr: mine's a 0000:00:0c.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)

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thechris:

Glasswalkr: in anycase you will need to set the options for the card almost as if it were a pvr500. see my guide on www.gentoo-wiki.org for more info. it is not specific to gentoo really. its in Hardware — pvr500

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Glasswalkr:

yeah they are different versions... the one not working is newer labeled 26132: REV F0B2

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Glasswalkr:

the old on that works fine is 26032 REV C199

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thechris:

mmead: no, thats the thing. its been working for a month, i come home and find 5 hours of recordings of just static. so i reboot. now it records fine, but mythbackened dies...

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mmead:

thechris: hmm

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mmead:

thechris: signal gone?

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Glasswalkr:

both have CX23416 chips on them

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thechris:

mmead: no, i restarted the backend and it picked up recording.

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Glasswalkr:

and the boards look identical other than that

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mmead:

thechris: capture card?

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Glasswalkr:

let me put both back in and see what lspci sees

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thechris:

mmead: it works now. the card works. i'm now trying to find out why mythbackend died on me

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thechris:

i guess the ivtv modules had a bug which caused the original static issue, but mythbackend shouldn't die

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thechris:

mythtv's been behaving odd recently. recording shows at the wrong times and such

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eiggirC:

Glasswalkr: its *possible* that the firmware file for the first one doesn't work on the second

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thechris:

more likely he just needs both cards to be detected

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eiggirC:

Glasswalkr: try fiddling with ivtv and firmware files... your problem is not with myth.

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Glasswalkr:

thechris: as I said it detected both fine, it saw video0 and video1 and I saw ivtv show logs for both cards proper models at startup

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Glasswalkr:

lspci shows both cards as identical

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thechris:

Glasswalkr: ok, what is your problem then?

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eiggirC:

okay.... so whats not working then?

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mmead:

hrm

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Glasswalkr:

one card tunes channels fine, the other doesn't

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mmead:

seems like it changes channel properly on the STB, but doesn't start viewing live tv

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thechris:

Glasswalkr: ok, well, i've had these problem in the past, and have a strong feeling i've already answered it

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thechris:

if you want to wait a bit, i can even find the link

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Glasswalkr:

ok, I checked the wiki, couldn't find the specific article you spoke of

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mmead:

mchou: doh, it keeps going to channel 48, an analog channel

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thechris:

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_PVR_500_Setup

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Al-Oop:

Hi people, I'm loading mythtv at this very second. Beyond the normal ivtv issues, which I think I've solved, beyond having a decent user interface, hence mythtv, what gotchas should I look out for?

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thechris:

most of the common IVTV dual tuner issues are listed as well as some solutions. there are other ways to solve some problems.

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mmead:

Al-Oop: that's as varied an answer as the hardware you choose to use

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thechris:

Al-Oop: well, on amd64 i had an issue with the BLUE theme...

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thechris:

i assume thats been fixed though

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Al-Oop:

mmead: I'm using a hauppage PVR 350 card, and that's about all that's setup right now. The video driver is the generic XOrg/nv one that's setup by default by the distribution I'm now using.

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mmead:

Al-Oop: you probably want to use the proprietary nvidia driver from nvidia

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mmead:

Al-Oop: one of my cards is a pvr350

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Al-Oop:

the biggest problems I'

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Al-Oop:

I've had so far was the messed up ivtv site, and their confused documentation.

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SlicerDicer-:

yep stupid driver did not compile for some reason kormoc

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SlicerDicer-:

it was in useflags but it did not compile

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mmead:

Al-Oop: my setup is not currently working, but ivtv-0.4.3 and lirc-0.8.0 work for me

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SlicerDicer-:

who knows why

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Al-Oop:

so are the accelerated Nvidia drivers better with this.

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mmead:

SlicerDicer: got things going, but channel change goes to odd channel (analog only, and not one I can capture)

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kormoc:

Al-Oop, only if you have a nvidia card, but yeah, they're really nice

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mmead:

Al-Oop: for playback, yes, though if you are just doing standard def tv, you'll be ok

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mishehu:

SlicerDicer-: what is your tv provider? comcast?

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Al-Oop:

what I ran into that made me crazy for awhile was the .pl file that created the decoder file does not have a .pl extension on it so even though it was in the path (/usr/bin) i could not find it till I made a very detailed search for it.

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SlicerDicer-:

mishehu: comcast

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Al-Oop:

MySQL will only install if you have a non-numeric hostname that is resolvable via the ?

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Al-Oop:

? /etc/hosts file. E.g. if the "hostname" command returns "myhostname" then there must be a line ?

[01:45:58]

Al-Oop:

? like "10.0.0.1 myhostname".

[01:46:07]

Al-Oop:

what is this configuration about?

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kormoc:

Al-Oop, it means the computer's hostname needs to be able to be found

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Al-Oop:

what I have so far is "kanobox"

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Al-Oop:

as the host name. How do you change this?

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kormoc:

you don't need to

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Al-Oop:

what do you do with this?

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kormoc:

just add a line akin to 127.0.0.1 kanobox in the /etc/host file

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kormoc:

erm

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kormoc:

make that /etc/hosts

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mishehu:

SlicerDicer-: me too. I just loaded up libiec libavc1394 and libraw1394 (all svn current as of 30 min ago), and I was able to record a few minutes off of hgtv (don't ask, it was what the gf was watching). after that, I changed to 188 which is a local hdtv channel, and I started getting 0 bytes thru again (all the time using libiec's test-mpeg2), and now it only works again on channels < 20 ... might you know what gives?

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mishehu:

the machine is running kernel 2.6.16.7

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SlicerDicer-:

mishehu: it wont change channel?

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mishehu:

SlicerDicer-: I manually changed the channel with the remote

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mishehu:

the machine I"m testing with doesn't have myth on it.

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mishehu:

it's a notebook computer with onboard ieee1394.

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SlicerDicer-:

well I dont know I havent ever used the remote to change it

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SlicerDicer-:

I always use myth

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mishehu:

SlicerDicer-: well, I change it before I start recording.

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mishehu:

I tried power cycling the cablebox too.

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SlicerDicer-:

hmm

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SlicerDicer-:

dunno

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mmead:

mishehu: what STB?

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SlicerDicer-:

6200 I think

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mishehu:

mmead: motorola dct 6200

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mmead:

mishehu: hmm

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SlicerDicer-:

mishehu: why are you testing it on another computer btw

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mmead:

mishehu: I just got sa3250ch working properly with a patch from someone on the channel today

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SlicerDicer-:

what is with everybody testing it with other computers and not directly connecting it to myth?

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SlicerDicer-:

lol

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SlicerDicer-:

both mmead and mishehu have done that now

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SlicerDicer-:

its baffling

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mmead:

what is?

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mmead:

I'm doing this with my mythbox dude

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thechris:

hmm looks like mythtv's working again. i wonder if i use mythfrontend if it will once again kill the backend

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mishehu:

SlicerDicer-: I can't get any audio to come across the mythbox's firewire.

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SlicerDicer-:

not yesterday mmead heh

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mmead:

SlicerDicer: I didn'[t have the STB or FW card in the mythbox yesterday, so I did no testing then

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SlicerDicer-:

bah nvm whoever it was hehe

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SlicerDicer-:

somebody was doing it

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SlicerDicer-:

not testing on the mythbox

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thechris:

hmm. i guess i missed house this week

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thechris:

lets see if the backend died again...

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SlicerDicer-:

hi xris

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mishehu:

hmm

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mishehu:

I just called cumcast

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Al-Oop:

What does this error mean; "Failed to connect to database: Can't connect to MySQL server on '127.0.0.1 KanotixBox' (111) at -e line 5, <> line 1."

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mishehu:

they tell m e that they are not enabling the firewire on the boxes.

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mishehu:

not even mine, with the hdtv.

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mishehu:

I could have sworn that goes against federal law or fcc regulation.

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kormoc:

mishehu, it does, they just don't know better

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mchou:

it is against federal law

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mchou:

mishehu: I dont understand what you're doing. You just said you recorded successfully from two other boxes. Comcast is obviously not at fault

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mmead:

mchou: that "patch" to the sa3250ch.c worked

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mchou:

mmead: hehe

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mmead:

mchou: of course, myth is all confused and using the wrong channels for each input at the moment

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mmead:

mchou: have to delete all the cards and start over

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mmead:

after dump mythconverg :)

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mmead:

mishehu: file a complaint with the fcc and maybe it will get changed

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mishehu:

mmead: I might do that.

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mmead:

mishehu: make sure you're right first, though :)

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mishehu:

is the 3250ch comcast's dvr?

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mmead:

mishehu: I thought you said you could use test-mpeg2

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mmead:

mishehu: no

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mmead:

mishehu: when I was there today they offered me the 3250hd and some other thing, maybe an 8000?

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mishehu:

mmead: I'm not getting anything above channel 20.

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mmead:

mishehu: I took the 3250

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eiggirC:

here's a question – Is it better to transcode a recording before running nuvexport? or should I not transcode before running nuvexport?

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mmead:

mishehu: are your OTA hd channels <=20?

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mishehu:

mmead: they told me that the dvr is the only one that comes with enabled firewire.

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mmead:

mishehu: ahh, did you get that?

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mishehu:

mmead: why would I get a dvr box if I have mythtv to do that for me?

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mishehu:

heh

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mishehu:

mmead: yeah, OTA and local access is <=20.

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mmead:

mishehu: hmm, they offered me the dvr without activating the dvr for no extra charge

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mmead:

mishehu: so I guess if you get <20 HD over firewire, you are seeing what you should, at minimum, by the fcc regulation

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mmead:

mishehu: what they offered me was to use the dvr as a STB and not ever activate the dvr features

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mmead:

man is zap2it slow on 3 separate lineups over 14 days

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mishehu:

mmead: I'm not getting anything on the hd channels. those are starting at 188.

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mmead:

mishehu: I believe you should be by the fcc reg

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mishehu:

mmead: if the dvr features themselves are optional, maybe I'll take back the box and see if I can work out the same deal.

[02:16:12]

mmead:

mishehu: comcast?

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mishehu:

in the meantime the guy told me I could enable it by pressing menu when the power was off

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mishehu:

he didn't say anything further.

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mmead:

hmm

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mmead:

did that work?

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mmead:

mishehu: did you buy the HD service?

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mishehu:

I did it, there's only one screen of config. only thing I can set is resolution, so I set it for 480p

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mishehu:

mmead: the OTA hd channels are supposed to be included already.

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mmead:

mishehu: hmm

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mishehu:

mmead: are you getting stations like comeday central and other non-OTA channels over your firewire?

[02:17:58]

mishehu:

yeah, cumcast.

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mmead:

mishehu: I am getting all digital channels, both SD and HD

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mishehu:

mmead: then I'd not see why I shouldn't get hte same...

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xris:

stupid crashy gaim

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SeSphore:

misheheu you mean Communist Cast

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mchou:

mishehu: dont be silly

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mmead:

mishehu: I think comcast is different in every locale

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mchou:

mishehu: for one thing you live in a different area

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SeSphore:

comcast sucks everywhere i've gone

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mchou:

your local MSO could have turned on 5C

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mchou:

if you live by one of the US major cities I can easily see that happening

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SeSphore:

whats MSO / and whats 5C?

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mchou:

hell, in NYC they dont even get analog w/o STB

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mchou:

SeSphore: google

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SeSphore:

well i dont want a long explanation just a jist , i really dont care much it was just a thing out of the blue since i saw you post it

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mishehu:

mchou: what's 5C ?

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mchou:

mishehu: google

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mishehu:

mchou: I'm reading the docs for the 6200 right now

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mishehu:

can't multitask too much

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mishehu:

heh

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mchou:

so??

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sphing:

how can I get the interface index...

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mchou:

you expect me to multitask for you?

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thechris:

you seem able to type in IRC and read the docs.

[02:25:41]

mchou:

thechris: exactly! :)

[02:25:58]

thechris:

i have never heard of MSO or 5C, but also don't much care unless they threaten to make me unhappy

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mchou:

thechris: trust me, that day will come

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sphing:

how doe the indexes work for a sockaddr_ll ?

[02:27:14]

thechris:

man, today i realized how lame MS word is

[02:27:31]

mmead:

mchou: I can play with mplayer and test-mpeg2, but myth will not start livetv

[02:27:34]

mmead:

says times out

[02:28:04]

thechris:

mmead: does the error sentance have a subject?

[02:28:17]

mmead:

2006-04–18 22:25:21.348 Firewire: No Input in 15 seconds [P:0 N:0] (select)

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mchou:

mmead: your myth install is clearly fubar

[02:28:37]

mmead:

mchou: is there a way to tell if I should be using point to point or broadcast?

[02:28:37]

SeSphore:

contoso

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SeSphore:

broadcast works for me

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kormoc:

mmead, SlicerDicer also has that issue at times, he just retrys and it works

[02:28:58]

SeSphore:

6250 i have.

[02:29:02]

mchou:

P2P works for me :)

[02:29:11]

mmead:

hmm

[02:29:15]

mmead:

I think I tried broadcast

[02:29:49]

mmead:

trying again :)

[02:30:05]

mmead:

BINGO

[02:30:07]

mmead:

rock on

[02:30:26]

SeSphore:

what worked broadcast?

[02:30:48]

mmead:

point to point

[02:30:52]

mmead:

though it's glitchy

[02:31:04]

thechris:

off topic — anyone know how to convert a LaTeX doc to a EPS file... this has a funny story behind it...

[02:31:33]

mmead:

hmm, maybe my fw card sucks on dma

[02:31:41]

mishehu:

it looks like according to a post I found from nov 2005 on mythv list, that it's in the firmware on the device.

[02:32:37]

mishehu:

what I don't get is, isn't my $60 a month not enough for those bloodsucking assholes to at least let me record what I want without having to load up a pc with capture cards and irblasters?

[02:32:59]

kormoc:

mishehu, nope!

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mishehu:

kormoc: what would be enough? $1000/mo?

[02:33:25]

kormoc:

mishehu, you assume there will ever be enough

[02:33:57]

mishehu:

kormoc: until we march into their offices in military fashion and rifles in hand I guess...

[02:34:05]

mmead:

mishehu: there is no price you can expect to pay and forever have access to media you obtained through a legal distribution channel on your own terms

[02:34:07]

mishehu:

which of course will n ever happen

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mmead:

mishehu: they want to choke it all out of you

[02:34:44]

mishehu:

well, I wonder if it's possible to hack the firmware and keep them from detecting it.

[02:34:48]

kormoc:

mishehu, if that happens, it's cause we'll have nothing to lose, and they won't have anything to gain

[02:35:19]

mishehu:

kormoc: it's not going to happen because nobody but a handful of us geeks gives a damn. heh.

[02:35:39]

mishehu:

everybody else is content coughing up to them in order to let them control their lives.

[02:35:55]

mishehu:

I really only even watch like 3 channels ever.

[02:36:15]

mmead:

rock on

[02:36:20]

mmead:

pvr350, fw, and air2pc working

[02:36:37]

mchou:

mishehu: that's the problem with Israeli tank drivers

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mmead:

hehe

[02:37:00]

mmead:

doh, air2pc not working

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mchou:

mishehu: every gets "solved" by military means

[02:37:14]

mchou:

everything*

[02:37:42]

mmead:

doh

[02:38:01]

mmead:

looks like 2.6.16.1 doesn't work so well with flexcop

[02:38:01]

SlicerDicer-:

lol

[02:38:13]

mchou:

haha!!

[02:38:14]

SlicerDicer-:

hey xris you at home near your mythbox?

[02:38:25]

xris:

both

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mchou:

if it's not one thing it's another thing

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SlicerDicer-:

would you be able to tell me what your firewire settings are?

[02:38:44]

mmead:

mchou: navigating the waters of "works well with" is hard

[02:38:54]

mmead:

SlicerDicer: me?

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mishehu:

mchou: I don't think I got what you were saying about israeli tank drivers.

[02:38:57]

SlicerDicer-:

I am still having issues with 32bit xris I am just wondering if mine are not set right or something

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mishehu:

the usa has more of a history of "right to bear arms" and shit like that.

[02:39:29]

mishehu:

just that people are fat and lazy here nowadays, or else totally wacko.

[02:39:35]

mishehu:

heh.

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xris:

SlicerDicer-: ??

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mmead:

brb

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SlicerDicer-:

xris: when you go to mythtv-setup and look at your capture card setup

[02:40:03]

SlicerDicer-:

xris: I am just wondering what the settings are

[02:40:33]

SlicerDicer-:

if its not a bother xris

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xris:

SlicerDicer-: you should only need to touch one setting: firewire node

[02:42:02]

SlicerDicer-:

hmm

[02:42:06]

SlicerDicer-:

what version of libiec61883

[02:42:22]

Netslayer:

this makes no sense, i bought a cyberpower UPS with AVR and when my mythtv box is connected to it, half my hds won't turn on..and weird things happen

[02:42:22]

xris:

libiec61883–1.0.0–10.fc5.2

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Netslayer:

the UPS unit is rated at 450watts, and my PSU is 430watts so it's to spec

[02:42:56]

SlicerDicer-:

xris: hmm

[02:43:02]

mchou:

Netslayer: how old is this UPS?

[02:43:08]

Netslayer:

10 days

[02:43:11]

SlicerDicer-:

libiec61883 warning: Established connection on channel 0.

[02:43:11]

SlicerDicer-:

You may need to manually set the channel on the receiving node.

[02:43:14]

SlicerDicer-:

keep getting that

[02:43:18]

Netslayer:

mchou,

[02:43:25]

mchou:

Netslayer: make sure you charge it up :)

[02:43:41]

mchou:

SlicerDicer: that's normal

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SlicerDicer-:

mchou: I never see that unless it craps out

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Netslayer:

mchou, I tried it before on the surge only section and it did the same.. that shouldn't be affected I don't think

[02:43:59]

mmead:

getting this in dmesg:

[02:43:59]

mmead:

tuner 0–0061: tuner type not set

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mchou:

SlicerDicer-: I always see that

[02:44:11]

Netslayer:

mchou, I'm replacing an APC that keeps on clicking when this box is connected to it, but it still works

[02:44:23]

kormoc:

Netslayer, does it say it's overloaded?

[02:44:35]

** Netslayer checks the manual for the light color **

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SlicerDicer-:

mchou: I am trying to figure out why the firewire works intermittent

[02:45:23]

SlicerDicer-:

2006-04–18 19:30:16.929 RingBuf(/myth/store//3663_20060418193010.mpg): Invalid file (fd 23) when opening '/myth/store//3663_20060418193010.mpg'. 0 retries remaining.

[02:45:23]

SlicerDicer-:

2006-04–18 19:30:17.481 RingBuf(/myth/store//3663_20060418193010.mpg) Error: Invalid file descriptor in 'safe_read()'

[02:45:28]

SlicerDicer-:

ends up doing that and barfing

[02:45:32]

mchou:

what do you mean intermittent

[02:45:48]

SlicerDicer-:

I mean sometimes it will work

[02:45:50]

SlicerDicer-:

sometimes it wont

[02:45:53]

SlicerDicer-:

its very unreliable

[02:46:06]

SlicerDicer-:

I cant seem to pinpoint whats doing it

[02:46:07]

xris:

SlicerDicer-: I get the same.. but it's only like 10% of the time. and so far only when watching livetv

[02:46:09]

mchou:

SlicerDicer-: for what? livetv, recordings?

[02:46:14]

xris:

or similar errors, anyway

[02:46:51]

SlicerDicer-:

xris: I am doing full verbose to try to see whats going on heh

[02:47:28]

mchou:

xris, SlicerDicer- : any you guys played with the configuration/diagnostic menus on the STB?

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xris:

nope

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Netslayer:

kormoc, nope the thing looks fine but my box keeps rebooting (doesn't post, just reads cdrom drive)

[02:48:05]

SlicerDicer-:

xris: so your saying it only happens wtih livetv?

[02:48:10]

SlicerDicer-:

let me run a test on recording hehe

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mchou:

xris: you should. It's highly instructive

[02:48:21]

xris:

oh?

[02:48:30]

xris:

SlicerDicer-: so far, yes.

[02:48:33]

kormoc:

Netslayer, Hrm. Does it get really hot?

[02:48:51]

Netslayer:

i've had it off for a week..just turned it on so not sure

[02:49:01]

Netslayer:

it's nice and silent though not like my loud buzzing APC

[02:49:15]

Netslayer:

i have it plugged into just surge protector right now

[02:49:20]

kormoc:

Netslayer, I've had a UPS with a internal short, and it acted similar, and got really really hot

[02:49:43]

SlicerDicer-:

fired all three tuners xris

[02:49:48]

SlicerDicer-:

3 recordings hehe

[02:49:50]

SlicerDicer-:

see what happens

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Netslayer:

kormoc, i'll leave this one on and see..heh

[02:50:13]

SlicerDicer-:

nope xris they are failing

[02:50:17]

kormoc:

SlicerDicer, ever think that maybe it'd be smart to get one working before adding in more?

[02:50:22]

Netslayer:

i'm calling cyberpower when they open in the morn

[02:50:33]

kormoc:

Netslayer, Yeah, g'luck with it.

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SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: nah!

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xris:

SlicerDicer-: you have them daisy chained together, I don't blame it.

[02:51:02]

SlicerDicer-:

xris: well the problem was there before that so I highly doubt it came from that

[02:51:29]

xris:

still easier to debug in a simpler environment.

[02:51:36]

Netslayer:

kormoc, you know what's weird though, i have an older cyberpower 185watt one next to it, and it does the same thing when i plug the box in

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mishehu:

donno what I did when poking around the config menu, but I am getting broadcast channels recording. it just seems that there's somewhere between 3 and 10 second delay between when the channel is changed and when the stream comes down the firewire.

[02:51:46]

kormoc:

SlicerDicer, sure, but I think you're one of a very small handful of people attempting this, so god only knows what extra issues it's causing.

[02:51:53]

Netslayer:

not sure if it just can't handle the power load...mabye they're lying on the specs

[02:51:57]

mishehu:

and it's now consistent.

[02:52:01]

kormoc:

Netslayer, hrm... That's really strange... What's the VA?

[02:52:02]

SlicerDicer-:

haha kormoc

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mishehu:

so I guess I'll just have to usue the firewire when recording OTA stuff, and my other box for recording the non-OTA stuff... only problem is that 0's aren't registering on my motorola 1700 even though it uses the same remote as my old box.

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chr0n:

hello everyone

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Netslayer:

kormoc, 325

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Netslayer:

kormoc, this new one is 800

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chr0n:

anyone have an issue with the HD-3000 where it refuses to get a signal lock even though it should be close to 100% (i am a complete newb sorry)

[02:54:51]

mmead:

great, now test-mpeg2 doesn't work

[02:54:52]

kormoc:

Netslayer, well, the small one can only handle 325 watts then, max, and usually they drop the watts by half to get the longer lasting power

[02:55:15]

Netslayer:

kormoc, i used to run a server off the old one, so i know it

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Netslayer:

kormoc, can handle a decent load, no excuse for the 800 though

[02:55:48]

** kormoc nods **

[02:56:18]

JoeyJoeJo:

I've recently changed my backend's hostname, and I had to re-add my tuner card. The problem is that now I have 2 tuners, 1 of which doesn't exist. Mythweb says "Encoder 1 is remote on localhost (not currently connected), Encoder 2 is on mythtv and is not currently recording"

[02:56:22]

SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: honestly though I dont know why it wont work with 1 or 3

[02:56:26]

kormoc:

Netslayer, you could try removing some load off of the computer (cdrom, PM2 on harddrives) and see if it will boot up

[02:56:43]

Netslayer:

kormoc, i think it booted once, but some hds weren't turning on heh

[02:56:45]

kormoc:

JoeyJoeJo, you need to delete the old ones out of the db.

[02:56:59]

JoeyJoeJo:

do you know which table it's in?

[02:57:04]

kormoc:

Netslayer, yeah. sounds like it's just overloaded sadly

[02:57:17]

Netslayer:

kormoc, wouldn't it beep or blink though?..and on surge only?

[02:57:21]

kormoc:

JoeyJoeJo, not off hand, but it should be similar to capturecards

[02:57:26]

Netslayer:

kormoc, i'm so glad i didn't order this online

[02:57:39]

JoeyJoeJo:

ok.. I have phpmyadmin installed, so I'll look in there

[02:57:44]

kormoc:

Netslayer, Depends, if it's a inline ups, it will filter all power though the battery

[02:58:13]

kormoc:

Netslayer, and it *should* be blinking and all that jazz, but yeah, the fact of the matter is it seems to be overloaded and slient

[02:58:15]

Netslayer:

kormoc, well it has a surge only side, and a battery and surge side. it also does voltage regulation

[02:58:26]

SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: I will knock it down to 1

[02:58:27]

SlicerDicer-:

hehe

[02:58:47]

kormoc:

Netslayer, yeah, the voltage regulation tends to be done via the battery

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Netslayer:

kormoc, my box is no light weight though, amd64 3200, 5 hds, dvd burner, capture card, etc

[03:00:12]

Netslayer:

alright now for my mythtv related issues :-P

[03:00:52]

Netslayer:

anyone know how to get the AC3 pass through option to work in mythtv? when i checkmark it, and watch an hdtv recording with ac3 i get a high pitch sound out of my receiver

[03:01:08]

mmead:

crapola

[03:01:09]

Netslayer:

I'm using a spdif connector from my audigy into a regular receiver

[03:01:19]

mmead:

getting bad mpeg videos off the fw

[03:01:39]

kormoc:

Netslayer, drives tend to suck about 25 watts on powerup

[03:01:42]

phoner:

I had to turn off one of the things in alsamixer

[03:02:05]

kormoc:

Netslayer, so like, that's a nice chunk of power right there. If your drives have PM2 jumpers, you might want to turn a few to that mode to help balance the load

[03:02:48]

SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: well I knocked it down to 1 box hehe

[03:02:54]

SlicerDicer-:

I am going to try to get just 1 box working

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Netslayer:

kormoc, that's still well under 430 watts for the PSUs max (25x5 = 125 + 100 cpu + 100 etc )

[03:03:31]

kormoc:

Netslayer, sure, but everything else is powering up at the same time

[03:04:12]

kormoc:

Netslayer, you're looking at ~100 watts for the proc, 15W per gig of ram, 50 watts for the motherboard, 20 watts for the dvd drive, 10 watts for the tv card

[03:04:45]

kormoc:

Netslayer, all in a very small timeframe, hence why if you move some things a little later, it might work cause of the lower spike on startup

[03:04:45]

SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: removing the other boxes haha

[03:04:48]

SlicerDicer-:

it aint working at all now

[03:05:03]

kormoc:

SlicerDicer, ooh?

[03:05:12]

SlicerDicer-:

yeah I cant get it working

[03:05:23]

SlicerDicer-:

2006-04–18 20:04:32.935 RingBuf(/myth/store//3004_20060418200426.mpg): Invalid file (fd 21) when opening '/myth/store//3004_20060418200426.mpg'. 0 retries remaining.

[03:05:33]

Netslayer:

kormoc, it might, but if i buy a ups rated at 450watts, like my APC it should be able to handle a load less than that no matter what unless i'm misunderstanding something

[03:05:33]

SlicerDicer-:

keeps on going to 0 tries remaining

[03:05:56]

Beirdo:

Netslayer, turn-on inrush current can be quite high

[03:06:11]

kormoc:

Netslayer, well, that power supply can output 450 watts, but what does it draw in as well?

[03:06:12]

Beirdo:

staggering startup time of drives really helps a lot

[03:06:18]

Netslayer:

Beirdo, maybe thats why my old APC is like fried now..clicks all the time

[03:06:23]

kormoc:

Netslayer, you forget, power supplys are not 100% perfect

[03:06:34]

kormoc:

Netslayer, they tend to be from 70% to 90%

[03:06:38]

Netslayer:

kormoc, auh true...

[03:06:45]

Beirdo:

yeah, like 70% efficiency or so

[03:06:51]

mishehu:

do I have to make two parallel installs of the lirc programs in order to use an irblaster and an audigy2zs remote?

[03:07:10]

Beirdo:

so if it's supplying 450W, it's drawing 450W/0.7

[03:07:15]

mishehu:

something in my mind tells me that is the case...

[03:07:20]

kormoc:

Netslayer, so let's say 80% for fun, that's 562.5 watts

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kormoc:

Netslayer, 70% would push that upto 642.8 watts

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Netslayer:

Efficiency

[03:07:55]

Netslayer:

> 68%

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Netslayer:

wow

[03:08:05]

Beirdo:

yup :)

[03:08:09]

Beirdo:

not surprising

[03:08:38]

mishehu:

"provides 480 watts of power, but we don't want to tell you that you need to feed it 1kw!"

[03:08:47]

Beirdo:

heh

[03:08:49]

Netslayer:

but the thing should according to the manual flash at me..beep, turn off

[03:08:52]

Beirdo:

they kinda do tell you that

[03:09:13]

Beirdo:

but it's kinda obscure to those of you without Elec. Eng. degrees :)

[03:09:23]

kormoc:

Netslayer, yeah, it *should* beep, but given it doesn't, you should return it anyway

[03:09:45]

Netslayer:

ya prob..just trying to figure out if i should exchange it

[03:09:54]

Netslayer:

i need a multimeter that reads amps

[03:10:24]

Beirdo:

measuring current in a running circuit is tricky

[03:10:25]

xris:

wow, it's amazing how much QoS is slowing down my connection.

[03:10:35]

kormoc:

xris, so that's what it was?

[03:10:38]

Beirdo:

you need to measure the current in-line, not in parallel

[03:10:44]

xris:

seems to be

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sphing:

xris: what you QoSing?

[03:10:47]

Netslayer:

i have a hard time believing this though, i used to run a box with 5hds p4 2.4, capture card, 400watt, all on this 185 watt old cyberpower and it worked

[03:10:49]

mmead:

great, mythbackend is stuck in a nanosleep({0,5000000},NULL) loop

[03:10:56]

mmead:

trying to use the dvb tuner

[03:11:10]

Netslayer:

Beirdo, on really heh

[03:11:23]

xris:

sphing: just some basic traffic shaping ala wondershaper

[03:11:37]

Beirdo:

yes

[03:11:50]

Beirdo:

voltage is measured in parallel, current in series

[03:12:09]

kormoc:

Netslayer, I've found that older UPSes were heaftier then todays with all their safe guards. They do pervent them from melting down like some of my old poor overloaded upses did

[03:12:12]

Beirdo:

AC current can also be measured using the electric field around the wiring

[03:12:19]

Beirdo:

non-invasively

[03:12:36]

Netslayer:

do you guys recommand a good UPS than?

[03:12:50]

Beirdo:

a funky clamp thingy that you put around the cable... anyways...

[03:12:55]

Netslayer:

this one had a nice rebate with an end price of like 70 bucks :-P

[03:12:59]

SlicerDicer-:

well shit kormoc now its completely broken

[03:13:02]

Beirdo:

APC SmartUPS 1400

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Beirdo:

or larger :)

[03:13:07]

Beirdo:

hehe

[03:13:15]

Beirdo:

but I hope you got money.

[03:13:16]

Beirdo:

;)

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sphing:

xris: how fast is your hdtv setup

[03:13:25]

SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: 100% broken I cannot get it working at all

[03:13:49]

SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: could it be my kernel?

[03:14:00]

kormoc:

Netslayer, I have a older model of this one: http://apc.com/resource/include/techspec_inde . . . e_sku=BR1200

[03:14:00]

SlicerDicer-:

raw1394 is fubar or something?

[03:14:08]

kormoc:

SlicerDicer, could be, but doubtful as it does work sometimes

[03:14:09]

SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: I have really no idea what to guess it is

[03:14:11]

xris:

sphing: my computer?

[03:14:17]

SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: its broken alltogheter now

[03:14:20]

SlicerDicer-:

it wont work at all

[03:14:22]

Netslayer:

Beirdo, that's insane heh

[03:14:26]

SlicerDicer-:

I tried switching firewire ports and all that

[03:14:40]

AngryElf:

where is all the documentation on the ~/.mythtv/lircrc file for native lirc support.......all the stuff in the docs are about irxevent, which supposidly myth doesn't use??

[03:14:43]

sphing:

xris: the fe that plays the hdtv... i was telling kormoc I'm moving to seattle soon and will be getting HDTV

[03:14:46]

Beirdo:

I used one for quite a while, Netslayer

[03:14:49]

Beirdo:

until it died

[03:14:51]

xris:

sphing: I don't have hdtv

[03:14:54]

SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: and for some reason it decided it would be cool to put /dev/raw1394 at /dev/raw/raw1394

[03:14:54]

Beirdo:

the control board died

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sphing:

KORMOC LIES!

[03:15:16]

xris:

sphing: just a firewire receiver that can get HD... but I don't have anything capable of displaying hd

[03:15:25]

kormoc:

sphing, see :P

[03:15:28]

sphing:

o ok... well then maybe he doesnt

[03:15:29]

sphing:

:)

[03:16:01]

Beirdo:

xris HAD hdtv :)

[03:16:08]

Beirdo:

it's a past thing

[03:16:13]

Beirdo:

heh

[03:16:19]

** Beirdo yawns **

[03:16:27]

Beirdo:

I think I should go to bed early tonight

[03:16:33]

SlicerDicer-:

Beirdo: I would if I could figure out what kind of mojo xris used to make his work

[03:16:36]

xris:

Beirdo: no, I get more HD over firewire than I did with the air2pc...

[03:16:37]

Netslayer:

kormoc, very nice, so what do you have plugged into it?

[03:16:43]

xris:

I've never had an hd-capable tv, though.

[03:16:47]

Beirdo:

oh, right

[03:16:47]

Beirdo:

hehe

[03:16:55]

mmead:

ok, so my configure clearly sets up dvb support, and it outputs that it's using /usr/include

[03:17:04]

SlicerDicer-:

xris: what version of libraw1394 you have?

[03:17:09]

mmead:

why would it not know the card type in mythtv-setup and say to recompile with dvb support

[03:17:13]

Beirdo:

I hope I get decent OTA HDTV in PR

[03:17:44]

kormoc:

Netslayer, My desktop (Pentium-D 820, 6800 gs, 3 hard drives), My server (2.4 ghz p4, fx 5200, 4 drives), my myth box (2.13 ghz celeron, tuner, one hard drive), and used to have another p3 on there.

[03:17:55]

Netslayer:

Beirdo, i bought a SS high gain directional powered antenna, and a hd3000 card.. and i gave up trying here, facing the wrong direction

[03:18:07]

Netslayer:

kormoc, 3–4 boxen wow

[03:18:22]

kormoc:

Netslayer, tho, I got a bunch of cheap 600 va upses to balance the load off of it

[03:18:24]

AngryElf:

anyone?? are there docs on the native-lirc config file?

[03:18:55]

kormoc:

Netslayer, yeah, I get about 15 minutes with them all on, a few hours with just the server

[03:19:04]

mmead:

Beirdo: you moving to PR?

[03:19:54]

Netslayer:

kormoc, is the fan loud?

[03:20:17]

kormoc:

Netslayer, mine doesn't have a fan, so I can't comment on it

[03:21:18]

sphing:

xris: so you just have a pc with a bunch of firewore ports

[03:21:23]

xris:

just one

[03:21:28]

xris:

and svideo into the tv

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sphing:

ah.

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Netslayer:

kormoc, i have this APC here, the actual circuit buzzes loudly and is so annoying. wonder if they would cover it under warranty

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Beirdo:

mmead, yup

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kormoc:

Netslayer, won't hurt to ask. They tend to be really good about things

[03:23:28]

mmead:

Beirdo: crowded down there, no?

[03:23:30]

Netslayer:

wow " Audible noise at 1 meter from surface of unit 45 dBA "

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kormoc:

Netslayer, They offered to replace one I overloaded, but it cost more to ship it to them and back then it was worth

[03:23:39]

Beirdo:

not horribly crowded

[03:23:42]

Netslayer:

kormoc, hah

[03:23:53]

Beirdo:

4M people in an area 30km x 100km or so

[03:24:03]

Beirdo:

less crowded than Toronto

[03:24:07]

mmead:

yeah

[03:24:07]

achew22:

is there a way to distribute the commercial flaging processes amongst two computers?

[03:24:14]

mmead:

will you get to go to all the other islands down ther?

[03:24:21]

Beirdo:

not for a while

[03:24:33]

Beirdo:

settling down, getting married

[03:24:34]

Beirdo:

:)

[03:24:57]

achew22:

Beirdo what is the date for your wedding?

[03:25:03]

Beirdo:

May 20

[03:25:05]

mmead:

hehe

[03:25:11]

SlicerDicer-:

xris: what kernel is your myth system running

[03:25:15]

Beirdo:

one month and 1 day left

[03:25:15]

mmead:

been settled down and married for 5 years

[03:25:16]

achew22:

poor guy

[03:25:18]

Beirdo:

and a few hours

[03:25:23]

Beirdo:

poor??

[03:25:29]

xris:

SlicerDicer-: #eth3 2 9*full/10 9*full/10 2 default

[03:25:29]

achew22:

Beirdo get out while you still can...

[03:25:31]

xris:

oops

[03:25:31]

Beirdo:

dammit, I'm looking forward to this

[03:25:39]

Beirdo:

:)

[03:25:39]

SlicerDicer-:

haha xris

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xris:

SlicerDicer-: 2.6.16–1.2080_FC5

[03:25:44]

SlicerDicer-:

I was like wtf

[03:25:47]

SlicerDicer-:

thanks

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kormoc:

Beirdo, yeah, it'll be great :)

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** xris curses apps that over-write shift-insert with control-v paste **

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achew22:

Beirdo I know... just giving you some crap

[03:25:59]

Beirdo:

I'm not the average commitment-fearming male

[03:26:03]

AngryElf:

is there any way to find out if mfe is actually checking ~/.mythtv/lircrc when it starts up?

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SlicerDicer-:

I am going vanilla-sources going to bypass gentoo-sources hopefully that will help

[03:26:39]

mmead:

Beirdo: I'd look forward to it too

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mmead:

Beirdo: lving in PR outta be cool

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kormoc:

SlicerDicer-, tisk... what have I told you about gentoo-sources?

[03:26:59]

Beirdo:

err, hot :)

[03:27:00]

Beirdo:

hehe

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mmead:

that too

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SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: nothing... ever?

[03:27:13]

kormoc:

esp at nights :P

[03:27:16]

Beirdo:

I look forward to no more damned snow... ever

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SlicerDicer-:

maybe your thinking of somebody else

[03:27:18]

mmead:

at least you can buy 1.5 seasons worth of clothes :)

[03:27:23]

kormoc:

SlicerDicer-, I tell everyone that they're more work then they're worth :P

[03:27:27]

mishehu:

baaaaaaaah.

[03:27:42]

SlicerDicer-:

not me :/

[03:27:49]

SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: what would you advise then vanilla?

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Beirdo:

mishehu, you pretending to be a sheep? beware the Scots

[03:28:02]

kormoc:

SlicerDicer, aye, vanilla is the best imho

[03:28:09]

mishehu:

Beirdo: /whois me.

[03:28:14]

Beirdo:

mmm, vanilla is yummy

[03:28:25]

kormoc:

he's a naked goat!

[03:28:33]

Beirdo:

yeah, I know

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mishehu:

I bah because Makefiles that don't have a $DESTDIR var annoy the hell out ofme.

[03:28:41]

SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: well anyway I am trying to eliminate problems hehe

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BBlinkk:

what do i need to do to get the icons for each channel to show up?

[03:28:51]

mishehu:

kormoc: nah, shaved goats with coats!

[03:28:57]

kormoc:

BBlinkk, check the wiki?

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SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: no idea whats causing it so start at the core and work my way out till I get so pissed off that I switch to fedora cause xris has it working right

[03:29:19]

SlicerDicer-:

and if that does not work right there is going to be a computer embedded in asphault

[03:29:30]

xris:

lol

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SlicerDicer-:

it will be a embedded solution in the middle of my complex

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Netslayer:

kormoc, do you think it's worth 50 bucks more for a APC than a cyberpower clone model?

[03:29:57]

kormoc:

Netslayer, imho, yes

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Beirdo:

Netslayer, I'd vote yes :)

[03:30:15]

Netslayer:

i mean my lower rated APC still kinda works, where as this new cyberpower doesn't heh

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Netslayer:

think i'll take a ride out to frys

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Beirdo:

bring a dozen eggs

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SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: would udev be whats putting raw1394 in /dev/raw/raw1394 and exploding plugreport

[03:30:52]

kormoc:

Netslayer, APC has always been prompt with any questions I've had and they've been very helpful, and their equiement has worked quite a lot, even when I was abusing it :P

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kormoc:

SlicerDicer, cause your udev rule tells it to?

[03:31:19]

SlicerDicer-:

thats what I was wondering if udev is behind it

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mishehu:

SlicerDicer-: yes.

[03:31:49]

mishehu:

SlicerDicer-: I forgot how to do it, but you can config udev to make a symlink automatically.

[03:31:52]

kormoc:

SlicerDicer-, /etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev.rules line 141 and 142

[03:32:16]

xris:

w00t. speeds up to almost 1M/sec...

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mishehu:

kormoc: criminal minds think alike.

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kormoc:

mishehu, indeed :)

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Beirdo:

and fools seldom differ

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SlicerDicer-:

alright kormoc thanks

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kormoc:

Beirdo, so you're in agreement as well, eh?

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mmead:

what would cause the firewire hd grabber to produce mpeg streams like this:

[03:32:55]

mmead:

[mpeg2video @ 0x2b988c278e70]00 motion_type at 29 50

[03:32:57]

mmead:

[mpeg2video @ 0x2b988c278e70]00 motion_type at 8 51

[03:32:58]

Beirdo:

hhehe

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achew22:

can mythbackend split up the commercial flagging?

[03:33:01]

mmead:

[mpeg2video @ 0x2b988c278e70]00 motion_type at 3 52

[03:33:01]

mmead:

all sorts of stream errors I wasn't seeing before

[03:33:02]

mmead:

[mpeg2video @ 0x2b988c278e70]00 motion_type at 3 53

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mishehu:

now where's my totally clear and open firewire so that I can record everything I pay for, and thus rob from the ultrarich??

[03:33:27]

Netslayer:

mishehu, it doesn't work..i use firewire myself

[03:33:31]

Beirdo:

mishehu, check your goat's butt

[03:33:35]

Netslayer:

mishehu, it only reliably works on broadcast

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kormoc:

mmead, firewire records the stream directly as it is sent, so they are sending bad streams

[03:33:50]

mmead:

kormoc: hmm...

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Netslayer:

mishehu, make sure it's on a broadcast station like fox, abc, nbc

[03:34:07]

mmead:

kormoc: too many variables to track down if it's me or them

[03:34:14]

Beirdo:

kormoc, or the stream is being corrupted on the way to his box too :)

[03:34:19]

mishehu:

Netslayer: sorry, I forgot my tags to indicate I was being sarcastic. ;-)

[03:34:22]

Beirdo:

bad signal?

[03:34:23]

kormoc:

Beirdo, true nuff

[03:34:38]

mishehu:

Beirdo: would you like me to take a picture of it for you?

[03:34:45]

Netslayer:

mishehu, i'm not, i'm pissed at adelphia.. my firewire worked when i first got it for all stations..now just broadcast

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Beirdo:

I know that from my DirecTV days (way back now)... some channels like TBS had a LOT of MPEG errors in their streams

[03:35:13]

Netslayer:

and since i have the other non working stations on analog with a separate capture card i need to manually tell myth not to record from both inputs at the same time

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Beirdo:

and were over-compressed too

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mmead:

I can tune to OTA HD and the stream is fine

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SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: is it possible gentoo sources are explodering it?

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Netslayer:

since i don't think myth has the ability to link capture cards in the scheduler as like one

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mmead:

then go to comcast over fw and it has issues

[03:35:42]

kormoc:

SlicerDicer-, wouldn't be the first time

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mishehu:

Netslayer: yeah, I'm pissed too. I pay $60 or so a month to cumcast, so they can sodomize me and not let me record what I want with the equipment I want. as if I'm about to go and share all my recording with the world. I don't like people enough to do that! heh.

[03:35:44]

Beirdo:

blame cumcast

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mmead:

hmm

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mmead:

now I'm not

[03:36:02]

mmead:

I'm getting OIBOUND

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Beirdo:

mishehu, you don't have the bandwidth either

[03:36:06]

** kormoc fears the day it mutates into cumcrust **

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** Netslayer swears as frys won't pick up their phone **

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mmead:

what is IOBOUND an indication of?

[03:36:50]

Netslayer:

aw someone picked up..they sound so enthusiastic to help me

[03:36:57]

mishehu:

Johnny Cumcastic, the new pr0n star. new episode includes Johnny raping a customer of his cable company. How will the customer respond to Johnny's aggressive hook-up?

[03:36:59]

kormoc:

mmead, I would imagine it's a indication that it can't write the inbound input to the drive fast enough

[03:37:04]

mishehu:

Beirdo: exactly.

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mmead:

kormoc: hmm

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mishehu:

606kbps upstream is not enough to share any video with. heh.

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mishehu:

.

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mishehu:

I feel like we're in a digital dark age.

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Beirdo:

not any video worth watching anyways

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mmead:

kormoc: a symptom of IRQ sharing because of not using APIC?

[03:38:07]

Beirdo:

you'd need such a pile of CPU to transcode to watchable video that low in rate

[03:38:08]

mishehu:

Beirdo: video of my goat's butt doesn't interest you? you were the one who requested it...

[03:38:13]

Beirdo:

no thanks

[03:38:26]

Beirdo:

I said to check there for your free and clear firewire :)

[03:38:40]

Netslayer:

my other box keeps freezing with bttv cards with those nasty dmesg errors.. been doing it for years, and i have no idea how to fix it

[03:38:43]

mishehu:

no no, that's shithole, not firewire.

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Beirdo:

ooooh

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Beirdo:

same difference

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Beirdo:

Netslayer, easy

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Beirdo:

take out the bttv card

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Netslayer:

...and

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Beirdo:

problem solved

[03:39:31]

Beirdo:

no more nasty messages

[03:39:32]

Netslayer:

heh then no way to record at that house

[03:39:39]

Beirdo:

buy PVR150 :)

[03:39:43]

Netslayer:

i switched cards, locations, etc

[03:39:59]

Netslayer:

we have a 250 in the other box..although it's not powerful enough for the bttv alone

[03:40:12]

Netslayer:

wait..i should just buy another one..hrm

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Beirdo:

might be a good idea ;)

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Netslayer:

i should seriously take the card out for a week

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Beirdo:

I had no end of stability issues running with bttv

[03:40:49]

Beirdo:

replaced with a pile of PVR250s, I had an uptime of over a year

[03:40:57]

Netslayer:

nice someone picked up and hung up cause i didn't stop ringing..i so hate stores

[03:40:58]

Beirdo:

with bttv, my record was 12 days

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bRuZdEGO:

Beirdo, you get my /msg's

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Beirdo:

no

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bRuZdEGO:

I saw a log from the cha nlogger

[03:42:13]

bRuZdEGO:

that yo got some errors, as seen in http://pastebin.ca/49831

[03:42:18]

mishehu:

a how to I once read said that you need parallel installs of lirc if you want to use a remote and a transmitter. is that still true? can't find anything in lirc docs about it.

[03:42:21]

bRuZdEGO:

like I am, and you talked about it as if you knew what it all meant.....

[03:42:25]

Netslayer:

k i'm going to frys to get the 1200va ups..later

[03:42:30]

bRuZdEGO:

you know how to fix that?

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Beirdo:

it means that you're trying to record at higher bitrates than you can write to disk for whatever reason

[03:43:42]

Beirdo:

like the disks are super busy doing something else?

[03:43:52]

bRuZdEGO:

ah, ok.

[03:43:54]

Beirdo:

or you are over NFS, and the NFS is bogging down

[03:44:01]

Beirdo:

there are many reasons it could happen

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bRuZdEGO:

yeah, NFS

[03:44:26]

bRuZdEGO:

but, I have 6 cards i that box... and it happened after 30mins of recording stuff from all 6 tuners

[03:44:29]

Beirdo:

what are your mount options?

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bRuZdEGO:

but it only came up on the slave box

[03:44:40]

Beirdo:

hehehe, yeah that could make for joy

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bRuZdEGO:

192.168.16.49:/mnt/store /mnt/store nfs rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr

[03:45:25]

bRuZdEGO:

are zie mount options

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Beirdo:

I would try bumping the windows up

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Beirdo:

I use 32768

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bRuZdEGO:

for rsize and wsize?

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Beirdo:

yup

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Beirdo:

and you want nfsvers=3 or =4

[03:46:15]

Beirdo:

don't depend on defaults to do it (just in case)

[03:46:26]

Beirdo:

without that, you'll have 2G filesize issues

[03:46:41]

bRuZdEGO:

thats interesting I have not had file size issues so far

[03:46:43]

SlicerDicer-:

hey kormoc just looking at raw1394

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SlicerDicer-:

KERNEL="raw[0–9]*", NAME="raw/%k", GROUP="disk"

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SlicerDicer-:

that would be that correct?

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Beirdo:

well, it may have chosen v3 or v4 for you

[03:47:17]

bRuZdEGO:

so this nfsvers=4 is another option with rsize etc?

[03:47:28]

Beirdo:

yeah, I use =3, personally

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SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: and I would just remove raw/ rite?

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bRuZdEGO:

ok, thanks for your advice

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Beirdo:

I've never messed with v4 yet

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Beirdo:

no problem

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Beirdo:

the bigger window sizes will likely help some

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AngryElf:

honestly, why would irw work and not lirc inside of myth....i'm banging my head against a wall here...myth was compiled with lirc support

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Beirdo:

you'd have to remount, of course

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AngryElf:

that made a lot of sense, i'm getting tired :(

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bRuZdEGO:

yeah

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Beirdo:

some people may not realize that, of course :)

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Beirdo:

can't hurt to say it :)

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bRuZdEGO:

hehe, well I assumed as much. :)

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bRuZdEGO:

never is

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bRuZdEGO:

becvuase the one time you dont

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bRuZdEGO:

is the one time your caught out

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Beirdo:

yup

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Beirdo:

seems obvious, but it may not be to everyone

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bRuZdEGO:

indeed

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Beirdo:

anyways, I'm gonna go to bed

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bRuZdEGO:

night

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bRuZdEGO:

thanks again

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Beirdo:

no prob

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AngryElf:

could the fact that there are two comm ports affect native lirc working and not working (i.e. could myth be looking on the other comm port?)

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bRuZdEGO:

./dev/ttsy0 should be com1, /dev/ttys1 could be com2

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bRuZdEGO:

atleast I think thats right

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AngryElf:

irw works...native lirc doesn't, is it possible myth is looking at the wrong com?

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AngryElf:

supposidly i'm using com1 because I /dev/ttyS0 and irw works

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mishehu:

hmm... I thought that they were going to merge ivtv into the kernel tree... guess that hasn't yet happened?

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kormoc:

night Beirdo

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mishehu:

isn't ivtvdriver.org the current site for ivtv?

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bRuZdEGO:

mishehu, it's still happening

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bRuZdEGO:

yeah, that website looks right

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bRuZdEGO:

and I would use kernel 2.6.16, and ivtv driver .6....... I had huge issues with it

[04:04:06]

bRuZdEGO:

I would use 2.6.15.7 and ivit .4.1 or whatever it is

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bRuZdEGO:

it works np. :)

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mishehu:

hmm I'm not getting the site up.

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bRuZdEGO:

http://pastebin.ca/49860

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bRuZdEGO:

gettign this in the mythfrontend when watchign some video

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bRuZdEGO:

the video pauses, and hten continues but it is annoying

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bRuZdEGO:

any suggestions?

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ShockValue:

are you using de-interlacing or anything? sounds like your machine isnt keeping yup with the video

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ShockValue:

here's my question of the day: how do i get my mythtv to display menus, etc in 1080i ?

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mishehu:

crap, ivtvdriver.org is down. :-/

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kormoc:

ShockValue, set the native x res to 1080i's res?

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kormoc:

mishehu, yeah, been down all day

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ShockValue:

kormoc – see, thats what i dont understand how to do

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SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: I cant locate usb keyboard and mouse drivers in vanilla?

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mishehu:

kormoc: must be cumcast trying to sabotage those who would dare steal its content.

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mishehu:

</sarcasm>

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kormoc:

ShockValue, 1080i is 1920x1080

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kormoc:

SlicerDicer-, you can't? under input devices if you have usb hid enabled

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ShockValue:

oic.. dont i have to tell it to interlace or something though?>

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kormoc:

ShockValue, the videocard should handle that

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SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: ok

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kormoc:

ShockValue, assuming your videocard is setup to do that stuff

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ShockValue:

nvidia 5200

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mishehu:

shame that I don't know any mirrors for ivtv.

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Agrajag-:

hey does anyone here happen to konw the status of dvb radio support? i've seen stuff the commits but don't know where it's at

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mishehu:

bRuZdEGO: the errors you get had to do with i2c addresses?

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mishehu:

with 0.4.1 and kernels 2.6.16 ?

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kormoc:

ShockValue, you need to set the tvout standard to HD1080i, and yeah, it should be fine

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SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: very odd

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SlicerDicer-:

my stupid plugreport has gone nuts

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mishehu:

I hope they get ivtvdriver.org back up soon, I want to finish up this box so I can configure any local stations to record on firewire and any paid shit on the pvr250

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SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: wana see it?

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kormoc:

sure

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SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: its by far differnet than gentoo-sources

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SlicerDicer-:

keep in mind I only have _one_ thing plugged ion

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SlicerDicer-:

one cablebox

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SlicerDicer-:

not 3

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mishehu:

bRuZdEGO: you don't by any chance happen to have ivtv 0.6.x source that you can send me do you?

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SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: http://rafb.net/paste/results/SnnIli97.html

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kormoc:

they're not chained?

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SlicerDicer-:

nope kormoc

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SlicerDicer-:

and nothing is plugged in adapter 1

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SlicerDicer-:

lol

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kormoc:

so it's still broke?

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SlicerDicer-:

dunno

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SlicerDicer-:

plugreport shows devices connected even if they are not

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SlicerDicer-:

hmm

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kormoc:

didja power cycle the STB?

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SlicerDicer-:

how can I restart udev or something to get it to clear?

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kormoc:

just powercycle everything

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SlicerDicer-:

well I can tell what ones are bogus

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SlicerDicer-:

but they are still there

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feld:

okay

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feld:

how did my mythtv recordings get screwed up

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feld:

they have wrong recording times.... hours off

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SlicerDicer-:

1 shot 1 fire kormoc

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SlicerDicer-:

going for more tests!

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feld:

any idea how to resolve this guys? SlicerDicer- ?

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kormoc:

feld, set the time correctly?

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SlicerDicer-:

feld: ntp may be gone crazy

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feld:

kormoc: no no i mean like a half hour recording claims it is 6 hours long

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feld:

so u cant fast forward / whatever

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SlicerDicer-:

well kormoc it failed again

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SlicerDicer-:

1 work 1 not work

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kormoc:

SlicerDicer, live tv or record?

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SlicerDicer-:

livetv

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kormoc:

try recorded

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SlicerDicer-:

I have a idea actually

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ShockValue:

ok, so here is my modeline: Modeline "1920x1080@75i" 100.74 1920 1952 2328 2360 1080 1104 1111 1135 int$

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ShockValue:

ok, so here is my modeline: Modeline "1920x1080@75i" 100.74 1920 1952 2328 2360 1080 1104 1111 1135 interlace

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SlicerDicer-:

nvm kormoc thats not it haha

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ShockValue:

but when when X starts, it says "no valid mode "1920x1080@75i"; removing.. and defaults back to 1360x768

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kormoc:

ShockValue, why bother doing mode lines anyway?

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SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: absolutely broken with livetv again

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kormoc:

SlicerDicer, yeah, but others have said, live tv seems broken for a lot of people, try recorded

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ShockValue:

the the tvstandard option didnt seem to do anything.. and if i just put in 1920x1080 for the resolution it craps out

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kormoc:

ShockValue, what's the x log file say?

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ShockValue:

(**) NVIDIA(0): TV Standard string: "HD1080i"

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ShockValue:

(WW) NVIDIA(0): No valid modes for "1920x1080@75i"; removing.

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** kormoc sighs **

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kormoc:

just pastebin the entire section

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ShockValue:

k

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kormoc:

and your xorg.conf as well

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ShockValue:

http://pastebin.com/668608

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SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: record does not work

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Blinkk:

i searched the wiki and i cant figure out how to set a channel icon to come up for each channel

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kormoc:

SlicerDicer, okay, you sure that your model is well supported?

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SlicerDicer-:

yep

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SlicerDicer-:

same model xris is using

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ShockValue:

http://pastebin.com/668609

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kormoc:

SlicerDicer, did you try your other firewire card?

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SlicerDicer-:

yep

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SlicerDicer-:

both do the same thing

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SlicerDicer-:

I have 2 seperate inputs

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SlicerDicer-:

audigy 2 and my TI chip

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kormoc:

ShockValue, what tvout format are you using?

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kormoc:

ShockValue, composite or svideo or component?

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SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: it just records a blank file

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SlicerDicer-:

nothing is in it

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SlicerDicer-:

its like it halfass sends data

[04:44:39]

SlicerDicer-:

maybe its my firewire cable?

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kormoc:

SlicerDicer-, and you went over the setup again?

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** kormoc shrugs **

[04:45:01]

SlicerDicer-:

I have tried broadcast and point to point

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kormoc:

swap it with one of the others and see

[04:45:20]

SlicerDicer-:

I kept asking what xris settings were but he said default

[04:45:23]

SlicerDicer-:

heh

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kormoc:

Yeah, but did you redo them all again?

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xris:

SlicerDicer-: p2p is correct

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SlicerDicer-:

ok xris

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** kormoc pokes ShockValue **

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ShockValue:

kormoc – DVI

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ShockValue:

sorry

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kormoc:

kk

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ShockValue:

hooked up to this: http://www.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/plasmatv/nec-50xm3.html

[04:51:43]

kormoc:

ShockValue, try http://pastebin.com/668619

[04:51:45]

SlicerDicer-:

nope not the firewire cable kormoc

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ShockValue:

kormoc – ok, brb (gotta run back and forth t the living room :)

[04:57:30]

ShockValue:

kormoc – http://pastebin.com/668625

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ShockValue:

same result

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kormoc:

ShockValue, NEC PX-50XM3 (DFP-0): 135 MHz maximum pixel clock

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kormoc:

ShockValue, that's a problem

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ShockValue:

it must autodetect that.. i dont put that in anyplace

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kormoc:

ShockValue, that's detected, aye, as that's how fast your DFP can output, and it can't handle 1080i

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ShockValue:

according to the user manual though, it should do 1920x1080.. http://www.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/plasmatv/nec-50xm3.html

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kormoc:

yeah, the tv can, but the card can't

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ShockValue:

oic

[04:59:47]

ShockValue:

fx5200 cant do 1080i?

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kormoc:

that one can't

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ShockValue:

so i wonder what I'm seeing when watching 1080i hdtv programs?

[05:00:23]

kormoc:

You see, there's two pixel clocks on video cards, one per head

[05:00:38]

kormoc:

you're seeing it at the res it's currently at, just being upsampled by the tv

[05:00:56]

kormoc:

on cheaper card, they used a much slower pixel clock for the DVI and noone really used it at the time

[05:01:06]

ShockValue:

that makes me sad

[05:01:23]

kormoc:

You vga pixel clock is likely the standard 350 mhz, but your secondary one is only 135 mhz

[05:01:41]

ShockValue:

i wonder if a radeod 9700pro would do it.

[05:01:45]

ShockValue:

radeon

[05:01:55]

ShockValue:

i have a spare one of them laying around :D

[05:02:04]

kormoc:

if the clock is high enough, sure

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ShockValue:

hrm.. i know its a more powerfull card, but ive never tried to get a radeon running in linux

[05:05:02]

kormoc:

it's a pain

[05:05:15]

kormoc:

You can get a 6200 that will work fine for ~55 or so

[05:05:31]

ShockValue:

im way over budget already

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kormoc:

fair nuff

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SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: I am using test-mpeg2 and it works intermittent

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ShockValue:

i might monkey with the 9700.. soon as i can verify it's specs

[05:09:07]

ShockValue:

hrm.. the "press release" says it has a 620mhz clock

[05:09:20]

kormoc:

ShockValue, perhaps you can do it...

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kormoc:

ShockValue, wanna try a custom mode line?

[05:09:48]

ShockValue:

for the 5200 or the radeon?

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kormoc:

5200

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ShockValue:

sure

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ShockValue:

seems like no matter what i put, it drops me to 1360x768 anyway

[05:12:34]

kormoc:

ShockValue, http://pastebin.com/668644

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kormoc:

ShockValue, that /might/ work... it's exactly on the max clock rate

[05:16:00]

ShockValue:

kk, going to try now

[05:18:35]

ShockValue:

same result :)

[05:18:38]

ShockValue:

err :(

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** kormoc sighs **

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kormoc:

ShockValue, add in a Option "NoBandWidthTest" "True" to the videocard section

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kormoc:

but be prepaired to cut it if it looks really bad

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ShockValue:

roger

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ShockValue:

it saw the option (according the xorg.log) but with the same results.. didnt change anything

[05:23:05]

bRuZdEGO:

anyone have a locatio nfor the 0.19 mythweb compatible mythburn?

[05:23:12]

kormoc:

ShockValue, ooh? that's odd...

[05:23:40]

kormoc:

ShockValue, okay, one last thing we can try

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ShockValue:

even if this never works, i appreciate the help :)

[05:24:08]

kormoc:

ShockValue, Option "ModeValidation" "NoMaxPClkCheck"

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ShockValue:

i might slap in the 9700 tomorrow to see if I can make it go :)

[05:24:19]

ShockValue:

video card section again?

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kormoc:

aye

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kormoc:

You're welcome :)

[05:26:26]

ShockValue:

http://pastebin.com/668660

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SlicerDicer-:

http://www.netzwerk-aktiv.com/pub/doc/newslet . . . ml/2344.html

[05:26:26]

ShockValue:

:(

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SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: I have been reading that thread

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SlicerDicer-:

its identical to what I have

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SlicerDicer-:

but I dont understand it

[05:26:49]

SlicerDicer-:

do you understand that?

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ShockValue:

line 22 and 23 are interesting

[05:27:07]

kormoc:

ShockValue, what version of the nvidia driver?

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kormoc:

yeah, it's getting the override, just not overriding...

[05:27:58]

ShockValue:

latest version.. i didnt find a difference one way or the other (in the past) so i just used the latest

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ShockValue:

[ebuild R ] media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.8756 12,658 kB

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kormoc:

ShockValue, yeah, that's perfectly fine

[05:28:31]

ShockValue:

think 7676 would make a dif?

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kormoc:

SlicerDicer-, it tells you what you need to run to initialize the box it seems

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kormoc:

ShockValue, not in this case, no

[05:28:50]

kormoc:

ShockValue, those overrides only work correctly on the newest driver anyway

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SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: I dont understand what he is saying though hehe

[05:30:33]

** ShockValue sighs **

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kormoc:

SlicerDicer, run plugctl -n 1 opcr[0].bcast_connection=1

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ShockValue:

i would hate to get out my svideo cable :(

[05:31:32]

kormoc:

SlicerDicer, then run plugctl -n 1 n_p2p_connections=1

[05:31:42]

kormoc:

SlicerDicer, then add -r 1 with test-mpeg2

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kormoc:

ShockValue, could set it to say, 720p

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kormoc:

*saw

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kormoc:

ShockValue, would that be good enough?

[05:33:26]

ShockValue:

would 720p be better than 1300x768?

[05:33:58]

kormoc:

1280 x 720

[05:34:08]

kormoc:

but it's a true supported mode of the tv

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SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: still seems to be random :/

[05:34:36]

kormoc:

SlicerDicer-, hrm.

[05:34:54]

SlicerDicer-:

should it be changing values in plugreport?

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ShockValue:

so it 1360x768, i think? http://www.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/plasmatv/nec-50xm3.html

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kormoc:

SlicerDicer, likely

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ShockValue:

*is

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kormoc:

ShockValue, 1360 x 765 is, aye, might as well use that then

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ShockValue:

seems to default to that no matter what i throw at it anyway :)

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kormoc:

heh, fair nuff

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SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: not seeing any differnce

[05:36:21]

kormoc:

but yeah, If I was you, I'd scape together the money for a proper 6200 in the future

[05:36:25]

kormoc:

SlicerDicer-, hrm...

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ShockValue:

ah well.. guess i'll go watch tv instead of screwing with it for the evening.. just recorded a cool program about pirate ships :)

[05:38:05]

kormoc:

nifty :)

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ShockValue:

ill prolly be back tomorrow complaining about my 9700 or something :) thanks for the help

[05:38:38]

kormoc:

you're welcome, sorry I couldn't do more

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ShockValue:

did all you could.. hardware limitations cant be worked around sometimes

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kormoc:

SlicerDicer-, okay... try setting the p2p connections to 1, set the channel to 63 and then set the bcast to 1, and then record?

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SlicerDicer-:

I think I got it

[05:41:18]

SlicerDicer-:

just did 40 tests without intermittent

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SlicerDicer-:

yay!!!!!

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SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: you had it right

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SlicerDicer-:

just incorrect syntax :)

[05:41:35]

kormoc:

oh, hehe :)

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SlicerDicer-:

plugctl -n 1 oPCR[0].n_p2p_connections=1

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kormoc:

given I never used plugctl, it was just a wild guess :)

[05:41:49]

kormoc:

ahh

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SlicerDicer-:

and it needed to be caps on pcr

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SlicerDicer-:

and BAM!

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SlicerDicer-:

working

[05:42:07]

SlicerDicer-:

so now what I need to do is figure out how to have myth do that for all 3 boxes haha

[05:42:21]

SlicerDicer-:

and it "should" work

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kormoc:

it seems like it should stick till reboot, right?

[05:42:41]

SlicerDicer-:

correct

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ShockValue:

6600, 6600gt or 6600le ?

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SlicerDicer-:

but to apply for reboot

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** ShockValue has an evil grin on his face **

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kormoc:

SlicerDicer, toss it in your crontab :P

[05:43:13]

SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: this is going on the wiki

[05:43:14]

SlicerDicer-:

haha

[05:43:19]

kormoc:

ShockValue, for power, 6800 GS is nice :) For cheap, 6800 GT is quite nice

[05:43:20]

SlicerDicer-:

that was too damn hard to find

[05:43:34]

SlicerDicer-:

talk about hair pulling

[05:43:36]

SlicerDicer-:

hehe

[05:43:45]

SlicerDicer-:

and you thought it was my daisy chain pfft ;-)

[05:44:06]

SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: the real test comes when I daisy chain it

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kormoc:

I didn't think it was, but that's the first step to troubleshooting, make it as simple as you can :)

[05:44:09]

SlicerDicer-:

yep

[05:44:13]

SlicerDicer-:

I figured kernel

[05:44:19]

SlicerDicer-:

then libs for the 1394

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SlicerDicer-:

and I stumbled across that thread

[05:44:28]

SlicerDicer-:

dont ask me how

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ShockValue:

oh 6800? i thought you said 6600

[05:45:53]

kormoc:

ShockValue, well, what price range are you looking at?

[05:46:39]

ShockValue:

cheap as i can get it and still be able to hande 1080i

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ShockValue:

smoothly

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kormoc:

6200 should do the job perfectly fine

[05:46:58]

SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: would it be possible to add that to /etc/init.d/mythbackend?

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kormoc:

SlicerDicer-, sure, but it'll get overwritten by new versions, hence my crontab sudgestion

[05:47:30]

kormoc:

ShockValue, you can get them for about $55 or so

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SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: I will just remember to modify it after update

[05:47:41]

SlicerDicer-:

and I dont update too often when stuff works hehe

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SlicerDicer-:

either that or I will make a /etc/init.d/mythbackendfirewire

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** kormoc will remember to tell slicer to check his wiki entry when it dies in the future :P **

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SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: then it wont be overwritten

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kormoc:

SlicerDicer, crontab @reboot is much cleaner and easier imho

[05:48:34]

kormoc:

SlicerDicer, given it's not a service

[05:48:37]

SlicerDicer-:

hmm

[05:48:45]

SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: to be quite honest

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kormoc:

ShockValue, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814127203

[05:48:51]

SlicerDicer-:

I dont know how to do cron heh

[05:49:00]

kormoc:

ShockValue, I own that one, and it's great

[05:49:01]

kali_:

is there a way to run a script before a recording begins ?

[05:49:04]

kormoc:

SlicerDicer, okay, it's easy

[05:49:09]

kormoc:

SlicerDicer, crontab -e

[05:49:10]

SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: I was trying to make it simple for me :)

[05:49:16]

kormoc:

SlicerDicer, @reboot command

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kali_:

user jobs are after a recording ends

[05:49:21]

kormoc:

SlicerDicer, save it and quit, done

[05:49:41]

SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: and do it for each one?

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kormoc:

SlicerDicer, add in a line for each box, aye

[05:50:00]

SlicerDicer-:

ok

[05:50:16]

kormoc:

SlicerDicer, each time you do crontab -e, you'll see the entire list, so you can remove or add as many as you want right then

[05:50:38]

kormoc:

SlicerDicer, @reboot means on every bootup, run command

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SlicerDicer-:

good stuff kormoc

[05:51:00]

SlicerDicer-:

so I can add mtd and so forth to that

[05:51:07]

SlicerDicer-:

and stop having to manually do bullshit

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kormoc:

SlicerDicer, @daily mans to run it once a day, @weekly once a week, @monthly once a month, @yearly once a year

[05:51:13]

SlicerDicer-:

ok

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kormoc:

SlicerDicer, */3 * * * * command will run command every 3ed minute... :P

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SlicerDicer-:

cool thanks kormoc

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SlicerDicer-:

ok kormoc time for the daisy test

[06:03:00]

SlicerDicer-:

yay kormoc

[06:03:06]

kormoc:

:)

[06:03:08]

SlicerDicer-:

it werked for the setting of the plug report

[06:03:09]

SlicerDicer-:

anyway

[06:03:31]

SlicerDicer-:

http://rafb.net/paste/results/QxumVH54.html

[06:03:36]

SlicerDicer-:

still has the weird options though

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SlicerDicer-:

now to go set mythtv-setup to include the other 2 firewire devices

[06:07:14]

SlicerDicer-:

2006-04–18 23:06:52.778 AutoExpire: Found 3 recorders w/max rate of 416 MiB/min

[06:07:18]

SlicerDicer-:

lol kormoc thats huge eh?

[06:07:33]

kormoc:

yeah

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kormoc:

your drive can keep up?

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SlicerDicer-:

hell if I know haha

[06:08:06]

kormoc:

52 megs per second

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SlicerDicer-:

ouch

[06:08:18]

kormoc:

or in otherwords, sata likely, pata, unlikely

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SlicerDicer-:

hmm k

[06:10:24]

SlicerDicer-:

[mpeg2video @ 0xb745da80]ac-tex damaged at 9 0

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SlicerDicer-:

[mpeg2video @ 0xb745da80]Warning MVs not available

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SlicerDicer-:

[mpeg2video @ 0xb745da80]ac-tex damaged at 2 0

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SlicerDicer-:

I think having all 3 running is killing it kormoc

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SlicerDicer-:

haha

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SlicerDicer-:

yep kormoc

[06:18:01]

SlicerDicer-:

it was overloading my harddrive

[06:18:05]

SlicerDicer-:

lol

[06:18:38]

SlicerDicer-:

causing texture corruption

[06:18:39]

SlicerDicer-:

haha

[06:18:44]

SlicerDicer-:

well crap

[06:18:52]

SlicerDicer-:

I can only daisychain 2

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SlicerDicer-:

:/

[06:18:56]

** SlicerDicer- needs RAID!!! **

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SlicerDicer-:

get the spray!

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SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: interesting

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SlicerDicer-:

I am getting data from both boxes lol

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kormoc:

hrm?

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SlicerDicer-:

recording onto one

[06:28:58]

SlicerDicer-:

dunno know why

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SlicerDicer-:

ok kormoc its recording flawlessly and working fine

[06:30:34]

SlicerDicer-:

the problem is its mixing the audio/video from both boxes

[06:30:39]

SlicerDicer-:

its not seperating them haha

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Blinkk:

anyone ever have a problem with the info from datadirect being 1 channel off for a bunch of the channels?

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SlicerDicer-:

YARRRRRR kormoc

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SlicerDicer-:

I got it going for both firewire ports

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kormoc:

nice

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SlicerDicer-:

I am using my audigy and TI chip

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SlicerDicer-:

plugctl -n o -p 1 oPCR[0].n_p2p_connections=1

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SlicerDicer-:

heh

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SlicerDicer-:

dont ask me why o

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SlicerDicer-:

but it worked

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SlicerDicer-:

lol

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SlicerDicer-:

I just started pressing random shit till I got it

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Blinkk:

is there a way to dump my listing data from the database, cause its wrong right now

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SlicerDicer-:

well yay

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SlicerDicer-:

I figured out even more

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SlicerDicer-:

damn these tools are powerful for firewire

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SlicerDicer-:

once you learn how to use them haha

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Cougar:

any idea how to tell master backend that all backends are using the same nfs storage? right now I see that both backends have 21 GB free space and total free is 42 GB

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eiggirC:

bugger. The linksys router I have just got is a V5 and is not capable of running linux.

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chinamill:

Hello

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chinamill:

Have anyone set up a system with DVB, CI and CAM?

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Dug02:

how do I set my device for twinhan card which comes up as dvb0 in the dmesg

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Dug02:

how do I set my capture card in mythsetup to be dvb 0?

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stuarta:

the devices are assigned by the kernel

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Jbain:

anyone awake?

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stuarta:

nope

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Jbain:

oh darn =P

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stuarta:

if you have a question, ask it, and somebody might wake up :)

[08:56:48]

Jbain:

during playback of recordings have you ever had a blue border on part of the screen?

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SlicerDicer-:

Jbain: you can fix it by messing with overscan settings

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stuarta:

heard about that one, theres a utility to configure the background colour...

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Jbain:

it almost looks like the video is shifted over a tiny tiny bit (1 or 2 px) and skin is showing through

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Jbain:

ooh it is the overscann?

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SlicerDicer-:

if its shifted

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haj:

are there any ivtvdriver.org mirrorsites ?

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Jbain:

i saw that but didn't want to touch it and break anything

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SlicerDicer-:

then you will need to adjust the location of the image

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SlicerDicer-:

that is under appearance settings

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SlicerDicer-:

Jbain: it takes a bit of tweeking

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Jbain:

thanks =D

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SlicerDicer-:

but its X and Y locations

[08:58:58]

SlicerDicer-:

it took me about a hour of tweeking to get my TV correct

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Jbain:

yeah i just need to bump it y+1 and x-1 and i think that should do it

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Jbain:

lol sounds like a blast

[09:00:21]

Jbain:

now if only i had a quiet cpu fan i'd be set ;D

[09:00:42]

stuarta:

Jbain: arctic cooling

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Jbain:

i'm cheap lol

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Jbain:

how much are those? 30–40?

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stuarta:

i forget, but pretty cheap.

[09:02:15]

Merlin83b:

stuarta: What distro do you use?

[09:02:43]

stuarta:

[09:02:49]

stuarta:

+vat

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stuarta:

Merlin83b: debian testing @home(myth) & various redhat at work

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Jbain:

i feel like a whore for using knoppmyth >_<

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Merlin83b:

I use it Jbain.

[09:03:58]

Jbain:

i started installing it with gentoo but ran out of time

[09:04:01]

Merlin83b:

It works fine.

[09:04:22]

Jbain:

yeah it works great, but i love gentoo and never want to use anything but gentoo lol

[09:04:44]

Merlin83b:

I'm running Knoppmyth and the only thing I've really done to it is upgrade MythTV to SVN.

[09:04:45]

stuarta:

i can't be arsed with all the compiling

[09:05:01]

Merlin83b:

Same here, especially on an EPIA :-)

[09:05:10]

Jbain:

epia?

[09:05:19]

Jbain:

is that one of those tiny via boards?

[09:05:25]

Merlin83b:

Mini-ITX thing.

[09:05:28]

Merlin83b:

It is, yes.

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stuarta:

i did it for a few years when I had an SLS based distro installed, got boring after a while

[09:05:35]

Jbain:

nice, how do you like it?

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Merlin83b:

I love it. My Myth box is fanless and seems just about fast enough to cope.

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Merlin83b:

stuarta: I use FreeBSD day to day so used to it with ports.

[09:06:21]

Jbain:

do you have the frontend and back end on the same machine?

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Merlin83b:

But that's on hefty servers so compiling isn't a big deal.

[09:06:27]

Merlin83b:

I do, Jbain.

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Jbain:

i'd love to get one of those to make a car-puter

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stuarta:

I am talking 7 or 8 years ago when cpu's weren't in a hurry :)

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Jbain:

but a little short on money right now

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Merlin83b:

No point for me – no car.

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stuarta:

all i need now is a handheld video player for my long commute to work...

[09:08:33]

Jbain:

heh, i just bought my first car, hence the lack of money

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d64:

it seems if one buys a car.. the next time he has any money to spare is after about five years

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d64:

so i've avoided it

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Jbain:

you can get a nintendo DS and the movie player cart for less than 130USD

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Jbain:

then all you need is a hefty SD or compact flash card and you're set

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stuarta:

not heard of that idea before, but I'd have to be able to transcode from myth to target device...

[09:10:37]

Jbain:

the cart comes with some software to transcode, but its directX based, so you'd need a windows box

[09:10:53]

Jbain:

not sure if they have a linux poort of it

[09:11:00]

stuarta:

ffmpeg is very useful :)

[09:11:31]

stuarta:

they've been working on mpeg4/avi encoding that's compatible with PSP

[09:11:44]

Jbain:

nice

[09:11:56]

Jbain:

the PSP has a far superior screen to the DS

[09:12:06]

Jbain:

but its what? twice the price?

[09:12:26]

stuarta:

price, they are giving them away with mobile phones now...

[09:12:36]

Jbain:

...what?

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Jbain:

where? lol

[09:13:06]

stuarta:

but the PSP is knobbled in that movies are limited to 300x200 (IIRC) when they aren't on UMD

[09:13:13]

Dug02:

stuarta: I know the devices are assigned by the kernel... it says device is dvb0 but there is not /dev/dvb0?

[09:13:55]

stuarta:

Dag02: /dev/dvb/adaptor0....

[09:14:13]

stuarta:

Jbain: uk

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Agrajag-:

Dug02: when you select dvb card in mythtv-setup just choose dvb card #0

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Jbain:

ah

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Jbain:

alright, time to go mess with overscan and go to sleep =P

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Jbain:

thanks!

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Dug02:

Agrajag-: I am using v4l so I choose Video device and put in it "#0"?

[09:19:25]

Dug02:

stuarta: if I dont have /dev/dvb/adaptor0 but in my dmesg I have bttv0: add subdevice "dvb0" what is wrong?

[09:20:55]

stuarta:

what sort of card do you have?

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Dug02:

Twinhan DTV atsc d+a

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Dug02:

I did modprobe dvb-bt8xx; modprobe dst and now it is there

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stuarta:

was going to ask if you had loaded your frontend driver

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Dug02:

so do I have to add anything else to my modprob.conf?

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stuarta:

you need to add dvb-bt8xx to /etc/modules

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Jbain:

stuarta: after adjusting the overscan settings, do i have to restart mythtv-frontend? no matter how high i set them i don't see a difference

[09:30:55]

Dug02:

not dst?

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stuarta:

it's wise to add the backend module(dst?) first, then the frontend modules after that

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stuarta:

not sure why it doesn't autoload the frontend modules for you though.

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Dug02:

ok so now I have the device... what do I put in the line video device... according to the faq it should be DVB #0 not /dev/dvb/adapter0

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stuarta:

DVB #0 = /dev/dvb/adapter0, so set it as DVB #0

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Dug02:

stuarta: btw I had to manuall run modprobe again... the /dev/dvb didnt show up when adding it to /etc/modules

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Dug02:

stuarta: do I add it to /etc/modules.conf?

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stuarta:

adding it do /etc/modules causes it to be loaded when being booted

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stuarta:

s/do/to/

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Dug02:

it didnt though

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Dug02:

only when I do it manually

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Dug02:

it also says cannot open /dev/dvb/adapter0 to probe its inputs?

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ivor:

heh: http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/04/19/phili . . . _ads_patent/

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Juski:

afternoon

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Juski:

I see Ofcom have announced today that the licencing restrictions on Freeview muxes have been lifted – more of them can now contain paytv channels :-/

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Merlin83b:

Poo.

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adante:

any mythtv guys here using multiple dvb cards?

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Juski:

so much for the 'free' in the name

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Juski:

adante: yup

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adante:

Juski: i'm having a lot of trouble getting multiple cards to work simultaneously – each works fine individually but when i try to use 2 at once, the 2nd one completely falls over

[11:28:21]

adante:

dyou know of any outstanding issues that might explain this?

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ivor:

define 'falls over'

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adante:

what i see on the 2nd recording looks a lot like extremely poor signal quality

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Juski:

stutters, jerkiness, pixellated, that kind of thing?

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Juski:

btw UK viewers: http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/paytv/statement/

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adante:

yeah

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adante:

but it's not a performance issue

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Juski:

adante: do both cards share an aerial connection?

[11:31:19]

Juski:

maybe you need an amplified splitter, or a split amplifier

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adante:

Juski: they used to, i thought that was the problem but i've since put each card on its own antenna

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Juski:

swap the aerials over – does the problem stay with the card?

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adante:

no, always the 2nd card to start recording

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ivor:

try moving one of the cards into a different PCI socket

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adante:

also it seems to be a mythtv specific problem – mplayer can play all 3 fine (slight glitch on some streams but it is watchable)

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adante:

simultaneously, i mean

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Juski:

adante: how much CPU is being used by mythbackend when you're recording?

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ivor:

mplayer is definitely using different adapters? not just different streams?

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ivor:

oh and does the backend log say anything 'interesting'

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Juski:

oh fuck. more channels are gonna be going to 64QAM

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Juski:

hey laga

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adante:

Juski: top says 1T

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adante:

1%

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adante:

ivor: yep, different channels, confirmed with lsof

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adante:

backend doesn't say anything except spew packet corruption errors

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adante:

unfortunately I can't actually run with verbose logging or mythbackend eats all my cpu (and space) logging them

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Juski:

adante: are there any usage spikes? or do you not have EIT enabled?

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adante:

ah, i have no idea what EIT is, sorry

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adante:

so I guess whatever the default is, that's it

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Juski:

EIT – over the air EPG

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Agrajag-:

.au eit is rubbish, it only has now and next, no one uses it to fill their guide

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adante:

i guess not then

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adante:

Juski: when you usage spikes were you talking about cpu use by mythback/frontend? if so.. no.. seems constant

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Juski:

adante: you must've have EIT enabled.. in plain ole 0.19 you'd see massive CPU usage spikes

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Juski:

(if eit was enabled)

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adante:

righteo

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hashbang:

adante: I have two Hauppauge Nova-Ts in a i845PE motherboard with a Celeron 1.7 and 512M. I have a 4 way aerial amplifier. Everything appears to work fine for me with 0.19-fixes.

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stuarta:

ITV need to be shot....

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stuarta:

removing men & motors for itv play....

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fozi:

if dvb is enabled dvb-eit is also except you disable it explicitly

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Juski:

s'ok stuarta... freeview can now have more paytv channels on all the indy muxes (ofcom have said so)

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Juski:

oh, and the BBC are gonna be forced to use 64QAM in future

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stuarta:

i read that too, what a load of crap (paytv)

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stuarta:

originally bbc were in 64QAM, but they recommended changing to 16QAM for robustness of signal :)

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JustinS:

Hi all .. I'm having issues setting up my server to allow my media computer (running mythtv) to access the data base .. Looks like mythtv-setup went okay, but mythfilldatabase comes up with "did you run the setup program?" .. I did, but my situation there aren't any channel guides available (military over seas) ..

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jave:

is there some howto how to use postgresql instead of mysql?

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mmead:

jave: I don't think so

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jave:

is it at all possible?

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mmead:

the code is built against the qt mysql driver, so I doubt it is easily done

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jave:

ok

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RaYmAn-Bx:

there might also be some mysql-only SQL stuffed in there somewhere

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jave:

:(

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mmead:

it wouldn't surprise me if the use of the db expected myisam in that constraints aren't enforced or something like that

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jave:

well mysql it is then...

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sphing:

jave.. good call

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sphing:

Beirdo: you around?

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sphing:

anyone good at networking?

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mmead:

somewhat

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sphing:

whats the easiest way to make a proxy..

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sphing:

i setup a program to do an arp man-in-the-middle

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mmead:

proxy for what?

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sphing:

and now i need to forward the packets to the right place

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sphing:

proxy for everything

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mmead:

you can turn on the proxy arp features in the kernel and just turn on packet forwarding

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sphing:

mmead: but as far as I know the proxy arp wont manage both sides of the network

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mmead:

do you need it to?

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sphing:

basically... we're playing capture the flag like at defcon

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RaYmAn-Bx:

anyone here happen to have an Antec Aria case?

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sphing:

theres a neutral server that connects to four machine

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sphing:

i need to insert myself between the other 3 machines... which I can

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sphing:

now all i have to do is relay packets through

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mmead:

sphing: how about doing this: http://www.sjdjweis.com/linux/proxyarp/

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mmead:

sphing: you can turn on packet forwarding and then setup whatever iptables rules you want to allow/disallow traffic

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sphing:

mmead: yea i read that...

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sphing:

the problem is.. the machine is still on the network

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mmead:

?

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mmead:

to proxy it kind of has to be, no?

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sphing:

A ---> N

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sphing:

i want... A --> ME ---> N

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sphing:

but A and N can still send arp packets

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mmead:

sphing: oh, you mean everything sits on the same switch?

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sphing:

yes...

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sphing:

so i need to be sending forged arp to A and N every 5000ms or so that I keep their arp tables faked

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mmead:

sphing: there's your problem :)

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sphing:

mmead: no i've done it

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mmead:

sphing: well, it's a *hack* :)

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sphing:

no its not..

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mmead:

sphing: how about just permanently publishing their arp entries?

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sphing:

mmead... the point of the game is to prevent machine A from talking to N

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sphing:

while keeping my machine active to N

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sphing:

is this making any sense?

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mmead:

sphing: yes

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sphing:

so I guess a good iptables should work.. but I have to mangle the packets... so that the mac address is mine... can iptables even do layer 2 mangling?

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sphing:

i guess my question is, can I mangle mac addresses with iptables

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Merlin83b:

I'm thinking the "IP" part of the name says no.

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sphing:

well you can filter based on mac address

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Merlin83b:

Do it would seem, but I think that's all you can do.

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sphing:

iptables can view mac addresses.. so modifying isnt a stretch

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Merlin83b:

I think you're into the realm of writing something to do it yourself if you want to.

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Merlin83b:

But I'm no expert :-)

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sphing:

i figured... but i just didnt want to write something and have it be already done

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Merlin83b:

Of course.

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Merlin83b:

#iptables may exist, or #linux, or an ml.

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JustinS:

okay .. looks like my client is talking to my server .. zap2it seems to be populating mysql .. my question is .. do I need mythtv installed on my server even though all it's acting as is storage and the mysql server?

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sphing:

Merlin83b: ml is too long.. this needs to be done by like friday

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sphing:

JustinS: no.

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Merlin83b:

I'm afraid I've told you all I can on the subject, sphing. Looks like you're just going to have to risk reinventing the wheel if it's that urgent!

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sphing:

JustinS: so you're asking if you need mythtv on your fileserver

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sphing:

Merlin83b: ugh... school

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JustinS:

sphing: Yeah .. some stuff looks like it needs it .. but right now mythfilldatabase is running on the client and populating on the server ..

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sphing:

JustinS: thats fine...

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JustinS:

Also, I don't have a local area here for zap2it .. I'm in the air force, using base supplied cable, but I'm in Japan .. it's all US spec cable .. and AFN (American Forces Network) channels .. I'm populating with my home town stuff, but it's not going to work I beleive ..

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sphing:

JustinS: that question is beyond my understanding...

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ivor:

sphing: afaik you can't do it with iptables. easiest option two network cards and masquerade between the interfaces.

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JustinS:

I ran mythfilldatabase and it seems to have went fine .. So I start mythtvfrontend and select watch tv .. and I get "Could not connect to the master backend server — is it running? Is the IP address set for it in the setup program correct?" . I'm assuming I did it right, but this error stumbles my mind ..

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sphing:

ivor: i only have one interface

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** ivor shrugs **

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sphing:

its a complicated thing... i need NAT for mac addresses..

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JustinS:

My client is my backend server .. correct? It's started on boot .. and running now ..

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sphing:

JustinS: huh?

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JustinS:

Well .. guess that's where I'm messed up .. mythtvbackend starts on boot as a deamon .. but does it need it if it's getting all media from my server? ..

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sphing:

JustinS: yes, you need the be to start... and it needs access to the media... probably through nfs?

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JustinS:

Yeah .. nfs ..

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sphing:

so make sure the nfs is mounted *before* the be starts

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JustinS:

All I wanna do though is flick on my PVR-150 and watch a little tv .. (it's mounted on boot too) ..

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JustinS:

nfs that is ..

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sphing:

so you have a fileserver, a backend, and a frontend?

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sphing:

3 diff machines?

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JustinS:

No .. Just a file server with mysql and media files .. and my client/mythtv box .. (soon to be my entertainment centers only peice of electronics) ..

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sphing:

thats fine...

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sphing:

make sure the boot order is correct and you'll be fine

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JustinS:

Boot order? Being backend before front end?

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sphing:

and nfs before be

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sphing:

so in order, nfs, be, fe

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JustinS:

aha .. yeah .. nfs is early on .. I use it for some files that are used by the desktop on occasion ..

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sphing:

you should be set

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JustinS:

My master server ip address is my mysql box correct? (I'm in mythtv-setup rigth now making sure I didn't mess it up) ...

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sphing:

no

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sphing:

master server is localhost

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sphing:

master server is the ip of the master backend

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JustinS:

Okay .. that might be an issue I'm having .. I'll fix that ..

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sphing:

Merlin83b: so i need to receive all packets, then send them backout with the mac changed

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sphing:

being one interface actually simplifies the program

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rav3r:

i am on FC4 and have been away from myth for probably a month or so. I updated ivtv because my capture card wasn't working, now X tells me "Requested Entity already in use!" and won't start

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JustinS:

Should I shut down mythbackend before running mythtv-setup? It gives me a little warning when I start it up it backend is up ..

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sphing:

probably safer... i havent used mythtv-setup in a while

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haj:

JustinS: it never broke anything for me.

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JustinS:

I did it as it suggested .. back on and mythfrontend is running .. gonna see if anything works ..

[14:17:55]

JustinS:

It's not letting my watch tv .. just blinks and back to the main menu .. grumble ..

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praet:

who were the asterisk users in here?

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JustinS:

CLI says "Live TV not successfully started .. what's it use to watch tv? (I have used tvtime a few times just to test my card) ..

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praet:

im thinking of setting one up and want to know what hardware to look for

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Merlin83b:

praet: You may well do better in #asterisk

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RaYmAn-Bx:

praet: it all depends on what you want to do with it..For basic voip-only you're fine with just about any vaguely decent PC..my Via Epia 1ghz has no problems for example..

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RaYmAn-Bx:

and yeah, #asterisk can help much better

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JustinS:

If my zap2it info is not correct, will mythtv still fire up my pvr-150 card? ..

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praet:

what cards do you guys use for analog?

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Juski:

pvr150

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JustinS:

ditto

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RaYmAn-Bx:

PVR-500

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Merlin83b:

I don't.

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Juski:

I don't use the tuner on my 150 card though

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JustinS:

Juski: what do you use?

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JustinS:

That's the main reason I snagged it ..

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Juski:

it records from a cable box

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Juski:

little point buying analogue for over the air stuff in the UK since nothing analogue will be broadcast after 2012

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rav3r:

any idea how to fix my x?

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JustinS:

You just video in to your computer from the cable box? I'm going to have to figure something out similar since my provider scrambles all channels above 11 .. so set the 150 on channel 3 and watch via the box ..

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Juski:

video & audio, sent upstairs on a long cat5 cable

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Merlin83b:

Here we go again... ;-)

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a1fa:

rav3r : whats wrong with your x? use x-y=z

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Juski:

yeh well just keep quiet about how I change channels on the cable box :-P

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a1fa:

we cant help you if we dont know what the problem is

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mishehu:

bah, ivtvdriver is *still* down. :-/

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a1fa:

Juski : how do you change channels?

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rav3r:

a1fa: X says "Requested Entity already in use!" and wont start

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stuarta:

spam control is fun...

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flithm:

hey everyone... I'm wanting to add a second front end to my setup here, and I just wanna make sure of some things before continuing :). First of all do I just load up mythfrontend on the new system and enter in all the database variables and so forth, or should I do something else first (ie backend settings?)

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Filip^:

flithm: on some distros, you need to set mysql to accept connections from other than localhost

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flithm:

Filip^, gotcha... so other than that, just open up the new mythfrontend and go nuts?

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Filip^:

yep

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flithm:

sweet!

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Juski:

nope

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stuarta:

fish

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Juski:

change mythbackend to use the real ip address of the box rather than localhost

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kristalino:

hi

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Juski:

then start mythbackend

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JustinS:

sphing: thanks for your help .. time for this old kid to go to bed .. Take care ..

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flithm:

Juski, ahh this is so it'll listen for connects on an address other than localhost?

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Juski:

flithm: you could always just RTFM – that's covered amply

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Juski:

but yes, that's so it'll listen to connections from other than localhost

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kristalino:

wich TNT usb card would you recommend ?

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flithm:

Juski, yeah I know :) I just wanted to ask in person in case there are unexpected things or people have tips. So thanks for the tips.

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a1fa:

rav3r : alt+f6

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a1fa:

rav3r : go to #xorg

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Juski:

TNT usb?

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rav3r:

thx

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mishehu:

I wonder if the guy who is the registrant for ivtvdriver.org speaks english

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mishehu:

I feel like calling him to let him know the site is down...

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RaYmAn-Bx:

mishehu: it's not down though..

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kristalino:

Juski, TNT is a french acronym for "numeric television"

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Juski:

RaYmAn-Bx: true – it's not

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Juski:

kristalino: not many USB digital TV adapters work in Linux. The Hauppauge nova-t USB does though

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kristalino:

Juski, this one ? : Hauppauge WinTV-NOVA-T-USB2 ?

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Juski:

yep

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kristalino:

anything else (this one is rather expensive :/) ?

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Juski:

I don't know if France has DVB-T though – at least not MPEG2 DVB

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stuarta:

http://www.dvb.org/about_dvb/dvb_worldwide/france/

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kristalino:

Hauppauge WinTV-NOVA-T-USB2 (model 1094). Is this model 1094 ok ? ( i have several problems with wifi cards, and rev. 1 and 2 that were differents)

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Juski:

hmm mpeg2 for SDTV, mpeg4 for paytv & HDTV.. nice

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Juski:

kristalino: check the wiki at www.linuxtv.org

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kristalino:

that was i did, but i understand nearly nothing of these DVB – S, T, C things

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Juski:

all you need to know is that DVB-T == digital TV you get with an aerial (antenna)

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stuarta:

S = Satellite & C = Cable

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mmead:

Juski: do you have any experience with solving interrupt contention issues?

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Juski:

mmead: nope

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mmead:

mchou: I know you do :) but you're probably sick of helping me at this point!

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mmead:

using my firewire card I can run test-mpeg2 | mplayer – and get perfect streams

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Juski:

well maybe I have had experience of it – but all I ever did was disable stuff I didn't need on my machine (parallel, serial, etc)

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mmead:

as soon as I fire up mythbackend with the firewire as a capture card and start livetv, the streams are corrupt, cpu load goes >7, and the machine is choked

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mmead:

seems to me to be some issue with interrupt servicing

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mmead:

Juski: I have serial and parallel turned off, but USB is on

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mmead:

Juski: nothing else is superfluous at this point :(

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Juski:

mmead: I doubt it's interrupt related – not if playing the stream with mplayer works okay

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Juski:

why not try dumping the stream to disk and playing the stream as it goes down to disk?

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mmead:

Juski: mythtv is linked against the same 1394 libs that the test-mpeg2 is

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mmead:

hmm

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mmead:

Juski: I can try that too

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mmead:

Juski: the fw card appears to only have two memory areas, both NON prefetchable

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mmead:

Juski: one is 2k

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mmead:

Juski: the other is 16k

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Juski:

if you have an early sata controller on your motherboard maybe that's maxxing the bus out

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mmead:

Juski: for 19GB/hr data rates, I think 16k is small

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mmead:

Juski: I have a sata controller, but it is not the disk myth users, and is currently only mounted read only

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Juski:

ok

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Juski:

what fw controller is it?

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mmead:

Juski: TI chipset Pyro 1394DV from like 8 years ago when capturing dv from camera was new

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Juski:

eeks – I once read TI were the daddies of 1394

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Juski:

might be time to try a different card – hell they're cheap enough

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mmead:

yeah, going to hit wally world and see if they have one cheap today

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Juski:

but as I said, it works fine outside of mythtv

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mmead:

I am currently on 2.13.1, but have identical issues in 2.16.1

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Juski:

so I doubt it's a hardware issue

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Juski:

there's been a bit of mail list activity about this recently, I noticed

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mmead:

Juski: well, the test-mpeg2 -> disk && mplayer from disk should tell us

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mmead:

the fw controller is sharing an irq with libata

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mmead:

libata, skge, uhci_hcd:usb3, ohci1394

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mmead:

rtc gets its own irq

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mmead:

nvidia shares its irq with ivtv (ivtv playback works perfectly), ide drive channels each have their own irq

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mmead:

myth storage is an lvm across two spindles

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mmead:

on different controllers

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a1fa:

rav3r : go to #xorg

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mmead:

Juski: is there some pattern of using the hardware that mythtv does that would be significantly different in terms of interrupt contention than manually capturing from fw and playing back with mplayer?

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rav3r:

thx, i did

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qfour20:

Anyone here get the signal for thier mythtv box from DirecTV? I'm trying to figure out how to best control the dtv reciever box.

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qfour20:

it has a 2.5mm "rf remote" port, which appears to be a serial port, and I'm wondering if I need a "serial cable" or "serial null modem cable" to be able to convince the box to change channels. google hasn't been as helpful as i would have hoped... yet

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** cornholio was intruiged to see today that Phillips are patenting advert flagging to make commercials un-skippable **

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cornholio:

could come in handy for us :-P

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JustWilliam:

lol

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cornholio:

"this is an advert.. this is an advert..." Oooo

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cornholio:

the holy grail!

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kristalino:

what can i use to record from a date-time to a datetime, a tv channel ? (CLI software) ?

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cornholio:

kristalino: how would we know? this is the mythtv channel ;-)

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kristalino:

i expect people here to perhaps know this kind of recording stuff ...

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Merlin83b:

Cron to start a dump of the capture device to a file and cron to kill that process?

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kristalino:

"start a dump of the capture device" do you know how

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kristalino:

maybe there is a CLI part in mythtv ?

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SeSphore:

qfour20 – > get a IR blaster

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SeSphore:

and configure the IR blaster for mythtv

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Merlin83b:

lol at the commflagging stuff :-)

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kristalino:

btw, can i use MythTv to record stuff, at the date-time i choosed ?

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Merlin83b:

kristalino: There is not a CLI part. Do you know what your capture device is?

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Merlin83b:

You can, kristalino. Set it from telnet, FE or mythweb.

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kristalino:

Merlin83b, i'm going to buy a hauppage usb card

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kristalino:

this one : Hauppauge WinTV-NOVA-T-USB2

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Merlin83b:

Then I imagine it will present a device (/dev/dvb/...) that you can just cat to a file. Why do you want to do this from CLI?

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kristalino:

but i don't have the card yet, so i don't know what it is

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Merlin83b:

It will do that.

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kristalino:

with CLI, because the pc i'd like to use has poor ressources, and doesn't have X

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kristalino:

(yet, but maybe i'll have to install it i don't know)

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Merlin83b:

You kind of need X to watch recordings, but you can set recordings and the like using mythtv-backend's telnet interface.

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kristalino:

ok, perfect. I don't really need to wath recordings on that little Pc. Is it possible to record video without X ?

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Merlin83b:

Yes.

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kristalino:

perfect, i'll do that

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kristalino:

can i still install mythtv on this little pc without X and access it with telnet ?

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Merlin83b:

As I understand it, yes.

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kristalino:

ok

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cornholio:

isn't it a bit tricky running mythtv-setup without X though?

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Merlin83b:

Good point.

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cornholio:

X doesn't have to be big & bloated anyway – not if you avoid Gnome/KDE

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JustWilliam:

for myth tv run does it need to use a desktop managment system such as Gnome/KDE

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flithm:

hey everyone... setting up a new frontend here, and I've got it connecting to mysql okay, but the problem I'm having now is that this frontend is on a different network than the other frontends so it's trying to connect to mythbackend with an invalid IP address. is there a front-end specific way to set the backend address?

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cornholio:

JustWilliam: no it doesn't need Gnome or KDE – just a lightweight WM will do

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Merlin83b:

JustWilliam: Isn't that just for the FE? BE doesn't need X.

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JustWilliam:

k

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cornholio:

flithm: did you change the master backend server address to the machine's real IP address from 127.0.0.1 ?

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lamer1:

If you want to use a DVB-T card such as Hauppauge Nova-T, does this count as a hardware or software decoder card?

[16:01:20]

cornholio:

and did you restart mythbackend?

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cornholio:

lamer1: neither, but more like hardware encoding

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Merlin83b:

lamer1: It's not a DEcoder at all.

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lamer1:

cos it's already digital?

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flithm:

cornholio, yes I did but the problem is the backend has more than one ip address (it's on two networks). The front ends on the one network work fine, but the new front end on the other can't connect

[16:02:04]

cornholio:

yup

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cornholio:

flithm: what?!

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Merlin83b:

Because it's the capture card. A decoder would be involved in displaying.

[16:03:02]

lamer1:

what i'm tring to get a picture of the CPU requirements for a server running Myth backed *only* with a DVB-T card

[16:03:28]

cornholio:

lamer1: 800mhz athlon with 2 dvb-t tuners recording simultaneously.. <5% CPU usage

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lamer1:

immense!

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Merlin83b:

Very low. Mine has two cards and is a combined FE/BE and is running on a 1GHz C3 (Epia)

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mmead:

should the nvidia card's pci latency be "248" ?

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lamer1:

so it's only the decoding (turning the stream into a picture) which is the difficult thing?

[16:04:19]

Merlin83b:

Yep.

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cornholio:

lamer1: in the case of DVB-T yes

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Merlin83b:

The card gives the already MPEG stream out over PCI, all that needs doing then is putting that onto disk.

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flithm:

cornholio, hahah. well... it appears as if you can only bind mythbackend to a single ip address? Unless I'm missing something? I can see why this limitation might not have come up yet as most people probably won't be accessing a single backend from more than one network. I was just curious if there's a way to specify a unique backend up address for each front end?

[16:04:50]

lamer1:

thank you!!!

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lamer1:

i shall update the wiki to reflect this!

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cornholio:

flithm: yeh you can only bind it to one address, though couldn't you do some clever mapping trick or other? Anyway why not just have the one subnet/network ?

[16:06:19]

cornholio:

lamer1: be careful there

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cornholio:

don't be another victim of wiki-itis

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lamer1:

what do you mean?

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flithm:

cornholio, trust me if they could all be on the same subnet they would :) I think you're right... I might be able to get iptables to forward all the connections for that ip to another ip

[16:06:43]

cornholio:

wiki-schmiki

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mmead:

mchou: have you ever had to tweak pci latencies at all?

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lamer1:

the wiki is king :-)

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cornholio:

lamer1: make sure all the info you post is correct

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cornholio:

wikis SUCK

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lamer1:

yes, and qualified properly etc.

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cornholio:

everyone's a frickin expert.. look up 3dfx on wikipedia for an example of why wikis are bad

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cornholio:

opinion != fact ;-)

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Merlin83b:

Look up countless other things and you'll see why they're great.

[16:08:39]

Merlin83b:

Find another free source of such information, a large proportion of which is accurate and in great details, posted by in their spare time by people who are experts in the field.

[16:08:54]

cornholio:

good argument

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cornholio:

I still hate them though

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scopeuk:

and we get to the ROOT of the problem

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cornholio:

meaning?

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cornholio:

suppose it's a bit like P2P – it has good points & bad ones. if I posted a lot of good info I wouldn't want some dick coming & changing it

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flithm:

that's why they keep a diff of every change. it's easy to roll back and ban the dumbass who spammed the wiki

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cornholio:

just keep the dumbasses out in the 1st place. nothing wrong with elitism in the right place

[16:13:27]

Merlin83b:

They also have great uses in closed situations – we keep a lot of information at our company in a wiki for example.

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cornholio:

I edited the myth wiki to add a link to my theme, but it wouldn't let me submit the entry because someone else's text contained stuff the spam filter spat out :-/

[16:14:03]

flithm:

some wikis are set up like that, you have to have perms to edit. just depends on the type of wiki. I personally think wikis are awesome for helping support things like oh i dunno... mythtv :). The gentoo wiki is an invaluable resource, even for non gentoo stuff some times. On the other hand, treating wikipedia like an academic source of info is about as stupid as trusting your neighbors rant on global warming as sign of the

[16:14:04]

flithm:

apocalpyse

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cornholio:

hosting a mythtv component on Geocities ffs!

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cornholio:

still – they're better than forums I suppose :-)

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scopeuk:

by that you mean that 12 year olds can be quickly and painfullydelt with by anyone yeh sure

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cornholio:

no, by that I mean that in my experience, wikis are far less lame than forums

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mishehu:

anybody know offhand what option in kernels 2.6.16.x handles msp3400 ? I can't seem to find the option, and I think it's the only remaining module I need for my pvr250.

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laga:

mishehu: make menuconfig and do a "/msp3400" there

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mishehu:

no matches

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mishehu:

but that's a neat trick nonethelss

[16:29:46]

mishehu:

never knew you could search like that.

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laga:

heh

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mishehu:

I do see the file existing in the source

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mishehu:

what exactly is the msp3400?

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Juski:

it's a DVB chip is it not?

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laga:

no, it deals with sound on the pvr cards, methinks

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mishehu:

hmm I can't find the option for it.

[16:32:09]

Juski:

ah well – another thing I got wrong today. just not my day

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mishehu:

thats ok, if I can't find how to enable this I don't know if it will get compiled ever

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RaYmAn-Bx:

mishehu: assuming your kernel is new enough, it's at the bottom of the v4l devices section..additional sound drivers or whatever...Atleast I'm pretty sure that's where it is

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Juski:

oh yeh that's where I've seen it before

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RaYmAn-Bx:

hmm

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RaYmAn-Bx:

or not

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Juski:

so is ivtv properly integrated into the kernel now?

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mishehu:

RaYmAn-Bx: the saa7115, saa7127, and wmsomethingorother was enabled by that yes

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mishehu:

Juski: portions of it are.

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mishehu:

RaYmAn-Bx: but not the msp3400

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RaYmAn-Bx:

seems you are right

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Juski:

I know portions of it are. they have been for a while. I mean I'm using the v4l modules for everything except ivtv itself

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mishehu:

looking in the makefile in drivers/media/video, am I reading this right that you need to enable bt848 for that?

[16:38:26]

RaYmAn-Bx:

it does seem like it belongs to bttv

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mishehu:

yeah, I enabled bt848 and it's building msp3400 now

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mishehu:

ah jeez, why does lirc now have to piss me off?

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mishehu:

any of you guys using irblasters and get this error on lirc_serial -> undefined symbols of lirc_unregister_plugin and lirc_register_plugin

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cva:

What would cause a recording to fail and give this error?

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cva:

Started PESPacket, but !payloadStart()

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cva:

I've asked on the mailing list, but have gotten no help.

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cva:

Only Prison Break fails with this error, all other shows on that channel record fine

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kormoc:

and how are you recording?

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cva:

Using .19 with a PC HD3000 card.

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cva:

It starting failing 3 weeks ago

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kormoc:

it would seem like the stream is getting corrupted

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cva:

it seems like it didn't sync as it creates the dummy file, but has no content

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cva:

the last showing, in the media library, it thought it was recording the entire time. I went to start watching it about 45 minutes into it and it says file not found

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mmead:

mishehu: have you managed to get firewire working?

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mishehu:

mmead: it works with OTA. I'll have to configure myth so that the firewire only gets marked for those channels.

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kormoc:

cva, that's nutty. I think you're gonna have to go source hunting, and likely write a ticket about what you've found to get help

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mmead:

mishehu: I keep getting stream errors and huge cpu load when myth uses the firewire, but test-mpeg2 | mplayer works fine

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mishehu:

mmead: my other cablebox is a motorola dct 1700, and it doesn't pick up the 0 digit over ir for some reason. it's the same remote as the previous cable box that I had which was fully functional with lirc...

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cva:

kormoc: I think you are right. The only mention I've seen about the payload not starting was a bug in .18 about a year ago

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mmead:

mishehu: can you tell me what the pci latency on your fw adapter is? lspci -vv, find the right device and it should tell you latency

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mishehu:

as I want to use firewire for OTA and the dct1700 for non-OTA.

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mishehu:

mmead: sec

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cva:

weird that it worked before and decided 3 weeks ago to stop

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mmead:

mishehu: have you tried the fw channel changing?

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cva:

then I have to wait a week for further testing as other shows, house for example, work fine

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mishehu:

mmead: the fw changing on the 6200 works fine. I'm trying to get the 1700 to work so I can hook it up to my pvr250

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mishehu:

mmead: Latency: 32 (500ns min, 1000ns max), cache line size 08

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mmead:

mishehu: thanks – I will see what the new fw card says when I put it in

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mmead:

mishehu: what fw card?

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mishehu:

mmead: sblive audigy 2zs platinum

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mmead:

mishehu: hmm

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mmead:

mishehu: it has an integrated firewire port?

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mishehu:

mmead: *nod*

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mishehu:

2 port actually, since one is on the livedrive

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mmead:

mishehu: ahh

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mmead:

mishehu: I have this old TI-chipset Pyro DV 1394 thing – I just purchased an adaptec to see if the issue is hardware

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mishehu:

mmead: good luck with it.

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mishehu:

lunchtime

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mmead:

mishehu: thanks... bon appetit!

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Filip^:

kormoc, mchou: Just letting you know that I put an nVidia card in my Pundit-R, and it took me approx 5 minutes to set everything up.

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kormoc:

Filip^, cool :)

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Fony_Vaio:

'lo *

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zipper:

using ubuntu dapper, i'm desperately trying to get my tv-out through s-video to work. Tried reading a couple of guides and using nvtv, but whatever i do, i just cant seem to get a signal to my tv. Anyone who can give me a hint, or who knows a good guide for setting up tv-out? I'm using a geforce go 5200

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Fony_Vaio:

anyone here using knoppmyth? gentoo? ubuntu? any recommendations?

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kormoc:

Fony_Vaio, I use gentoo

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kormoc:

Fony_Vaio, but the recommendation is, use whatever you know the best

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Filip^:

Fony_Vaio: use what you know

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Fony_Vaio:

kormoc: haven't used gentoo for a while. are the ebuilds kept up-to-date and in good order?

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laga:

zipper: umm, did you read the official nvidia readme?

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kormoc:

zipper, don't use nvtv, use the nvidia driver's tvout

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kormoc:

Fony_Vaio, aye

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Filip^:

ebuilds are brilliant atm, if you own a PVR. wiki si a bit messy

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laga:

Fony_Vaio: you'd have to unmask mythtv on gentoo (i believe), but that shouldn't be an issue

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Fony_Vaio:

i know debian quite well, but i could only find old binary packages on an unsupported apt source.

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laga:

Fony_Vaio: umm, you can mythtv 0.19 from marillat's repo

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Fony_Vaio:

basically, i have mce2k5 on a shuttle sn95g5v2 in my living room. However, mce is playing up, and i'm getting quite sick of it, anyway.

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Fony_Vaio:

nvidia nforce3, 6600gt vivo (use s-video out to tv), hauppauge nova-t usb2

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Fony_Vaio:

laga: cheers

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Fony_Vaio:

any known compatibility issues with those?

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zipper:

laga, i did but i didnt really find it all that informative

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laga:

Fony_Vaio: umm, i think they work fine for many people

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zipper:

i'll try taking a harder look at it

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laga:

zipper: yeah, try to read it again, it has helped me a lot

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kormoc:

zipper, read the apendix on tv-out, and forget nvtv entirely

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kormoc:

zipper, http://kormoc.homelinux.org/xorg.conf.nvidia.tvout

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kormoc:

zipper, there's my xorg conf to get tvout on my 6200 working

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Dug02:

do i have to put anything in my module.conf for the twinhan dvb card?

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Fony_Vaio:

laga: where are marillat's archives?

[18:34:52]

zipper:

kormoc, thanks, i'll take a look

[18:34:57]

Dug02:

It will not make the /dev/dvb device on boot, I have to do a modprobe for it, and I have put dvb-bt8xx in my /etc/modules

[18:35:14]

laga:

Fony_Vaio: uh, google, dunno off-hand

[18:35:39]

Fony_Vaio:

laga: found it.

[18:35:45]

laga:

:)

[18:36:40]

Fony_Vaio:

laga: http://spello.sscnet.ucla.edu/marillat/dists/

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zipper:

kormoc, that whole 'extensions' section? Can i skip that if i'm using s-video?

[18:37:22]

laga:

Fony_Vaio: that's probably a mirror

[18:38:38]

kormoc:

zipper, sure, it's just setting some settings that are optional

[18:38:51]

zipper:

roger

[18:40:16]

kristalino:

with mythtv is it possible to record the tv and compress on the fly (divx or xdiv) the recording ?

[18:41:13]

SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: I figured it out

[18:41:15]

kormoc:

kristalino, with a bttv card, yes, with a pvr card, it compresses it in the hardware for you

[18:41:16]

SlicerDicer-:

the daisychain

[18:41:21]

SlicerDicer-:

100% reliable now

[18:41:32]

kormoc:

yeah?

[18:41:47]

SlicerDicer-:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/FireWire if you feel up to cleaning up the wiki go for it

[18:41:47]

SlicerDicer-:

haha

[18:41:48]

kristalino:

kormoc, and with a Hauppauge WinTV-NOVA-T-USB2 ?

[18:41:51]

SlicerDicer-:

I suck at that kinda thing

[18:42:10]

kormoc:

kristalino, that I don't know about, never messed with USB encoders

[18:42:17]

SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: doing the channel difference is huge hehe

[18:42:38]

xris:

kristalino: the usb encoders usually do that.

[18:42:49]

xris:

though if yours is dvb, the signal is already compressed nicely in mpeg2

[18:42:56]

SlicerDicer-:

hello xris

[18:43:06]

SlicerDicer-:

xris: I have 100% reliable livetv viewing

[18:43:18]

xris:

SlicerDicer-: cool, what was the fix?

[18:43:19]

Fony_Vaio:

kristalino: I have a wintv nova-t usb2, and used it successfully with an older version of myth and a newwer kernel to support nova-t usb2.

[18:43:38]

SlicerDicer-:

xris: check the link I sent to kormoc on firewire

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SlicerDicer-:

part of it will apply to you with the point to point part

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SlicerDicer-:

setting it to a active connection

[18:44:05]

kristalino:

xris, do you think i could compress with the framerate/compression i want or not ?

[18:44:46]

kristalino:

Fony_Vaio, cool ! And what about compression ? Are you able with this card to compress on the fly to divx or xdiv with a poor resolution/frame rate ?

[18:45:02]

Fony_Vaio:

kristalino: afaik, there is no hardware decoder on the nova-t usb2. It just streams mpeg2 and software decoder on the system decompresses it for viewing.

[18:45:09]

xris:

SlicerDicer-: not 100Mbps?

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SlicerDicer-:

no I use 200mbps

[18:45:34]

Fony_Vaio:

kristalino: As the decompression is software based, any on-the-fly transcoding would depend on the speed of your cpu, imho.

[18:45:35]

kormoc:

kristalino, yeah, so comes off the card mpeg2, you'd need to use something like nuvexport to reencode into xvid or similar

[18:45:36]

xris:

kristalino: you can transcode within myth to mpeg4 (divx) inside of myth's native nupplevideo container. If you want a different format, you need to use nuvexport.

[18:45:41]

SlicerDicer-:

mainly due to the extra bandwith of daisy chain xris

[18:46:01]

xris:

SlicerDicer-: ah

[18:46:24]

SlicerDicer-:

but also jarod advises 200mbps

[18:46:33]

cg:

how do i get DISEqC(DVB-S) to work with Myth??

[18:46:48]

kristalino:

xris, cool ! Can nvuexport be used on the fly (through a pipe or something) ?

[18:47:07]

Fony_Vaio:

kristalino: you want to stream over the network or something?

[18:47:24]

mmead:

SlicerDicer: what myth version are you using with fw?

[18:47:29]

SlicerDicer-:

19

[18:47:29]

kristalino:

Fony_Vaio, nope, i want to record on a small HD

[18:47:38]

mmead:

SlicerDicer: release or fixes?

[18:47:39]

Fony_Vaio:

kristalino: aha. :)

[18:47:45]

SlicerDicer-:

release

[18:47:53]

mmead:

SlicerDicer: kernel?

[18:48:33]

SlicerDicer-:

dude if yours was not working its more than likely the issue that I solved by doing what I did to a lesser degree as your not daisy chaining

[18:48:46]

Fony_Vaio:

kristalino: I think for sd signal without encryption, transcoding in realtime shouldn't be a massive problem. But it's best to google around perhaps?

[18:48:51]

SlicerDicer-:

give it a try before you ask me 10'000 questions

[18:49:04]

mmead:

SlicerDicer: give what a try?

[18:49:33]

SlicerDicer-:

what the hell are you bothering me for everyday now about the firewire if you cant use it?

[18:49:48]

mmead:

huh?

[18:49:48]

SlicerDicer-:

its really frustrating

[18:50:36]

mmead:

SlicerDicer: hoping to find a difference that might be the determining factor

[18:50:48]

SlicerDicer-:

well what I did worked

[18:50:51]

kormoc:

kristalino, you can setup a userjob to nuvexport and remove the only one out of the db, sure, but it would likely be easier to just get a larger drive :)

[18:50:53]

SlicerDicer-:

it made my box go from not working to working

[18:51:27]

SlicerDicer-:

mmead: apply it to a lesser degree meaning that if your not daisychaining drop the need for doing channels and then do the one node to the point to point and it should be 100% solid

[18:51:38]

SlicerDicer-:

have it set it to point to point on bootup and it should be golden

[18:52:04]

xris:

kristalino: no. at best, you can set it up as a user job to export when the show is done recording. it's also an *exporter* meaning that it doesn't delete the recordings from myth.

[18:52:37]

kristalino:

Fony_Vaio, kormoc xris, thanks.

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mmead:

SlicerDicer: ok

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Fony_Vaio:

kristalino: yw

[18:54:19]

kristalino:

i wonder if there is a better job for only that purpose (record and compress video at a low resolution/framerate), better than mythtv ...

[18:54:25]

kristalino:

s/job/tool

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mmead:

SlicerDicer: I have set it up to go to 200Mbit, point to point, and myth knows to use node 0.

[18:54:55]

mmead:

SlicerDicer: test-mpeg2 works, myth thrashes the box when I try to use myth to do livetv using the fw

[18:54:59]

mmead:

SlicerDicer: thanks!

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SlicerDicer-:

mmead: yep try setting your node to point to point with the value of 1 on that node

[18:57:24]

SlicerDicer-:

it should fix that

[18:57:35]

SlicerDicer-:

test-mpeg2 working the first time is not a indication of it working properly

[18:58:18]

SlicerDicer-:

it will do a thing like this. work, work, work, not work, work ,not work, work, work, not work, not work, not work, not work, work and so forth its totally random

[18:58:36]

SlicerDicer-:

whereas if you set that value I got 40 tests in a row that worked flawlessly

[18:59:09]

SlicerDicer-:

although those first tests merged the audio and video with the daisy chain therefore I had to come up with a solution to change the channel as indicated on the wiki

[18:59:23]

Fony_Vaio:

kristalino: surely you have enough buffer space for the shows recorded in mpeg2, and then make some kind of script that transcodes them in the background after recording ends, or more simply on a cron job perhaps? (eg. everything in your recording directory is transcoded and then mpeg2's deleted)

[18:59:24]

mmead:

SlicerDicer: sorry, what do you mean "with the value of 1 on that node" ?

[18:59:37]

mmead:

SlicerDicer: you're referring to this (http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/FireWire) as what you did, right?

[18:59:52]

SlicerDicer-:

http://rafb.net/paste/results/TkdiRp77.html

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SlicerDicer-:

notice it says n_p2p_connections=1?

[19:00:07]

SlicerDicer-:

on both

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mmead:

yep

[19:00:25]

SlicerDicer-:

that is what makes it work

[19:00:36]

SlicerDicer-:

yours currently would say 0

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mmead:

hmm

[19:00:55]

SlicerDicer-:

plugctl -n X oPCR[0].n_p2p_connections=1

[19:01:00]

SlicerDicer-:

replace x with your node number

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mittie:

hi

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mmead:

if you have a port you're not plugging in and plugreport gives the libiec61883 error trying to read that node, do you still try to set it to 1 p2p connection?

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SlicerDicer-:

if its on host adapter 1 then use -p 1 IIRC thats the way you do it

[19:01:30]

SlicerDicer-:

no mmead

[19:01:36]

mmead:

ok

[19:01:38]

SlicerDicer-:

only the cablebox

[19:02:09]

SlicerDicer-:

now the reason why I only showed you part of my plugreport is that plugreport shows bogus information on some nodes and adapters hehe

[19:02:13]

SlicerDicer-:

and it would have confused you

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kristalino:

Fony_Vaio, i think i shurely can make a pipe through transcode

[19:02:29]

mmead:

SlicerDicer: yeah, it complains about my non-connected port

[19:02:39]

mmead:

SlicerDicer: ty

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SlicerDicer-:

now the one problem I am trying to solve right now is how to get the raw1394 to be acceptable for mythbackend to use hehe

[19:03:46]

SlicerDicer-:

its a permissions issue

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mittie:

while running mythtv-setup i keep getting messages like: No error type from QSqlError

[19:03:53]

mittie:

and *a lot* more :-)

[19:04:05]

mmead:

SlicerDicer: device node permissions?

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SlicerDicer-:

yeah I just set a cron to do it

[19:04:27]

SlicerDicer-:

I am not going to bother otherwise heh

[19:04:31]

mmead:

SlicerDicer: hehe

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stuarta:

mittie: do you have the qt-mysql libs installed?

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** SlicerDicer- thanks kormoc for cron **

[19:04:39]

mmead:

just run mythbackend as root :)

[19:04:45]

SlicerDicer-:

nah

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mittie:

stuarta, hmmm :-)

[19:04:57]

SlicerDicer-:

I run it through /etc/init.d/mythbackend script in gentoo

[19:05:33]

mmead:

ahh

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mittie:

stuarta, thanks a lot! :-)

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Traxtopel:

anyone here using a dvb card

[19:08:32]

Traxtopel:

if you are receiving in digital is an mpeg encoder still needed?

[19:09:35]

stuarta:

Traxtopel: an mpeg encoder makes analogue into digital, so no :)

[19:09:43]

Traxtopel:

thats what I thought

[19:10:29]

Traxtopel:

so what format does the dvb card dump it as, mpeg4?

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stuarta:

mpeg2

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Traxtopel:

ok

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Traxtopel:

which is good enough right

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Traxtopel:

ok, just wanted to be sure before I get one

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stuarta:

it's fine.

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Traxtopel:

I am looking at the kncone dbv-c card, what are you using

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stuarta:

dvb-t

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SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: this permissions issue is a nightmare haha

[19:17:31]

SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: when I manually modify the permissions of raw1394 it explodes and wont work at all then if I change it back it works haha

[19:17:50]

SlicerDicer-:

so I have no idea how to get /dev/raw1394 accessable by user mythtv

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mmead:

SlicerDicer-: what happens when it explodes?

[19:23:47]

SlicerDicer-:

it does not work at all

[19:23:51]

SlicerDicer-:

if I change the permissions manually

[19:23:53]

SlicerDicer-:

its very odd

[19:23:55]

SlicerDicer-:

heh

[19:24:01]

SlicerDicer-:

very very very anal it be

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Traxtopel:

SlicerDicer, u can use udev

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SlicerDicer-:

Traxtopel: I dont quite know how to use udev I have been working on it

[19:27:08]

SlicerDicer-:

it says it needs to be part of group disk

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SlicerDicer-:

but that did not help

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Traxtopel:

so in /etc/udev/permissions.d/50-udev.permissions

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Traxtopel:

add a rule

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Traxtopel:

http://www.linux1394.org/faq.php#udev

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SlicerDicer-:

testing :)

[19:34:25]

SlicerDicer-:

thanks tra

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SlicerDicer-:

damn tab complete and user leave

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kormoc:

don't edit 50-udev.permissions itself, create a new file with the permission rule

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SlicerDicer-:

ok kormoc

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_nero_:

Anyone here compiled mythtv on a FC5 system?? Having troubles finding glu.h (which I thought the nvidia drivers were supposed to install)

[19:44:48]

xris:

_nero_: mesa-libGLU-devel

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jsher:

has anyone installed a DVB-S card and gotten a 4-way diseqc switch to work with mythtv?

[19:45:45]

jsher:

it seems there were some bugs floating around related to diseqc issues

[19:45:46]

_nero_:

xris- even if I am using the nvidia drivers?? I thought all the mesa stuff was incompatible with the nvidia glx?

[19:46:04]

xris:

_nero_: dunno. that's what I needed to compile it.

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stuarta:

have nvidia released xorg7 drivers now?

[19:46:17]

_nero_:

cool. I'll give it a try.. thanks! :)

[19:46:18]

xris:

pretty sure the xvmc setuff is separate

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xris:

stuarta: my nvidia stuff works fine with xorg7

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_nero_:

as is mine (and I am using the old 7174 legacy drivers for an old GF2 Ultra card)

[19:47:52]

_nero_:

xris- thanks.. compiling again.. :)

[19:48:28]

xris:

_nero_: you using svn or .19?

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stuarta:

good to know they've made an xorg 7 driver

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_nero_:

svn

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xris:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Mythtv-svn-rpmbuild.spec

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_nero_:

thanks xris.. that'll come in handy.. :)

[19:51:42]

_nero_:

btw: is beirdo still around?? Did he move down to PR yet?

[19:51:49]

xris:

not yet

[19:52:00]

xris:

couple more weeks, I think

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_nero_:

must be exciting for him :)

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kormoc:

xris, 1 month till the marrage, so I would assume a little sooner then that

[19:52:43]

xris:

_nero_: he seems excited... got my wedding invite the other day. sucks I can't make it

[19:53:03]

xris:

thinking I may go visit the two of them next summer.

[19:53:12]

_nero_:

very cool... My wife and I got married down that way last may (in the USVI).. its a blast down there..

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_nero_:

nice!! make sure you go in the winter.. make the most of it.. ;)

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xris:

heh

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xris:

well, depends on whether or not I have a newborn at that point.. pondering kids, but don't know exactly when.

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_nero_:

ahhhhh.. kids.. hehe.. I am just waiting for that day to come.. :taps foot:

[19:55:04]

_nero_:

Wanted to suprise the wife with a trip back down to St. John for our first anniversary.. then remembered, I am a grad student, and she works for a non-profit.. oops.. ;)

[19:55:29]

xris:

heh

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xris:

well, I make plenty of money (wife doesn't work, writing a book)... but vacations are expensive when you'd rather put the money into other things like the house.

[19:56:59]

_nero_:

amen to that one.. got a nice fat tax refund this year, and just got a pretty big web dev job.. was looking at the Canon 30D, then remembered, all funds earmarked for house savings.. doh!

[19:57:36]

xris:

I put like $3k into my yard last year (first year we owned the house).. this year is office and bathroom remodeling.

[19:58:27]

_nero_:

at least it is going into equity/value though??? We're still throwing away $1500/mo on rent.. (we really gotta get outa NJ)

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kormoc:

_nero_, can't even move to say, PA?

[20:00:13]

_nero_:

kormoc- not worth it.. Wife is finishing up grad school in the next year and a half, and once she is done, we wanna get away from the east coast..

[20:00:14]

xris:

_nero_: yeah, that's when I bought my house.. $1200/month in rent meant that a $1300 (now $1450 or so) payment wasn't suck a bad thing

[20:00:49]

xris:

west coast is nice. :)

[20:00:49]

_nero_:

and our current place is within walking distance of where both of us work.. so we spend almost nothing in gas.

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kormoc:

_nero_, fair nuff :)

[20:01:24]

_nero_:

xris- Seattle is one of our top areas.. the other is Boulder colorado, or Minneapolis/St. Paul MN.

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kormoc:

_nero_, Seattle is nice, I'm not much of a fan of Minneapolis/St. Paul

[20:02:45]

** jasta raises an eyebrow **

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xris:

I like the seattle area best of everywhere I've lived.

[20:02:59]

_nero_:

We both grew up in MSP.. so its the family (not the winter weather) that draws us back there.. ;)

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kormoc:

_nero_, ahh, makes sense :)

[20:03:18]

kormoc:

Mornin, jasta

[20:03:29]

_nero_:

hummmm.. undefined reference to `AudioOutputJACK::AudioOutputJACK(QString, int, int, int, AudioOutputSource, bool, bool)'

[20:04:11]

mmead:

_nero_: you trying to use jack support? can be turned off with ./configure

[20:04:22]

jasta:

I had a question about mythtv actually.

[20:04:39]

_nero_:

ahhh.. yes.. jack.. what is jack support anyway?

[20:04:56]

mmead:

_nero_: it's an audio routing, mixing, output framework

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jasta:

I seem to get a lot of conflicting information regarding MythTV's LIRC support. Is there any reference I can read that describes its implementation in MythTV?

[20:05:24]

mmead:

_nero_: supposed to be very low latency and nice for doing studio work and mixing

[20:06:08]

mmead:

jasta: I think it just uses the client libs to read the text based output of the lircd daemon

[20:06:21]

jasta:

what?

[20:06:25]

_nero_:

thanks mmead.. back to compiling..

[20:06:32]

_nero_:

time to take the dog on a run.. bbl

[20:06:41]

jasta:

mmead: I mean, which commands is it looking for, etc.

[20:06:44]

jasta:

Where are they documented?

[20:06:53]

kormoc:

jasta, the source, of course!

[20:07:12]

kormoc:

jasta, but I have no idea what you are asking, what do you mean by which commands?

[20:07:13]

mmead:

jasta: you need to setup a ~/.mythtv/lircrc file that maps the names of buttons coming from the remote into the equivalent keystrokes mythtv accepts

[20:07:26]

jasta:

The default contrib lircrc seems to suggest I want to use irxevent!

[20:07:48]

kormoc:

jasta, if you don't have natice lirc support in myth, then you do

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jasta:

kormoc: mplayer, for example, wants commands like seek +20, vol +5, etc.

[20:08:28]

jasta:

kormoc: I do have native lircrc support in it.

[20:09:44]

kormoc:

jasta, http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . c-nativelirc

[20:09:53]

kormoc:

jasta, that's what you need then

[20:13:18]

jasta:

hmm, i see.

[20:13:21]

jasta:

I would not have guessed that.

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hadees:

is anyone working on any podcast or iptv plugins?

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kormoc:

hadees, you are! ;)

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hadees:

kormoc, possibly but not likely

[21:28:12]

hadees:

plus if i did it there would be bittorrent support and i don't think it would make it in

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jasta:

are there any debian control files available for the mythplugins package?

[21:31:08]

jasta:

i am going to create them if not

[21:31:34]

achew22:

jasta what are debian control files?

[21:32:35]

Zider:

should mythtv disable joystick control if it doesn't find a /dev/js0 (or whatever) on startup? I'd like to be able to connect the joystick after mythtv has started..

[21:32:36]

jasta:

nevermind, found them :)

[21:35:47]

kormoc:

Zider, you might have better luck with 'does myth' rather then 'should myth' :P

[21:36:19]

Zider:

kormoc: well, I know my mythtv does, but should it or is mine broken? ;)

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kormoc:

Zider, wouldn't see why yours would break that way

[21:37:11]

Zider:

me neither.. :P

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Zider:

it would be nice if it scanned for a joystick every second or something tho ;)

[21:38:44]

kormoc:

that would be a waste imho

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kormoc:

Zider, why not just leave it plugged in?

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Zider:

kormoc: I have a 2-port usb switch on an extension cord for keyboard and two controllers, and I'd like to swithc them around freely and not have to have it plugged in when booting if I don't need/want to..

[21:40:30]

kormoc:

Zider, if a reboot is required, then even rescanning won't detect them

[21:40:51]

Zider:

kormoc: why not?

[21:41:15]

kormoc:

Zider, myth will just scan /dev, not ask the kernel to rescan any random cards

[21:41:58]

Zider:

no, not ask the kernel to do anything, just periodically check if /dev/js0 has been created and then open it

[21:42:23]

kormoc:

Zider, then why say on boot?

[21:42:38]

Zider:

kormoc: because it doesn't exist on boot until it's connected

[21:42:57]

** kormoc sighs **

[21:43:04]

randy-rhodas:

HI .. i got a big problem.. please help... When i installing mythtv, i got this message : E: mythtv-database: underprosess post-installation script returned error status 1 My distro is Ubuntu Dapper drake.

[21:43:13]

kormoc:

you made it seem to say that it only shows up when booted with it hooked up

[21:44:26]

Zider:

kormoc: well, mythtv starts up at boot, and then there is no /dev/js0 since it's not connected, so mythtv starrts with no joy support.. and when I then connect it (switch place of kbd and joy or something) there's no control..

[21:44:44]

kormoc:

Zider, you could just restart the frontend

[21:45:18]

Zider:

with the control that can't be used?

[21:46:03]

randy-rhodas:

is cs possible with mythtv??

[21:46:04]

kormoc:

ssh or restart before swapping and add in a delay

[21:46:57]

randy-rhodas:

HI .. i got a big problem.. please help... When i installing mythtv, i got this message : E: mythtv-database: underprosess post-installation script returned error status 1 My distro is Ubuntu Dapper drake.

[21:47:21]

Zider:

kormoc: there are a number of other ways to work around it, it's just my humble opinion that it shouldn't be necessary when all that is needed is a small timer to delay the joystick support until there actually are a joystick

[21:48:29]

randy-rhodas:

anyone who would like to answer som questions from a beginner...... priv???

[21:48:43]

randy-rhodas:

please:-)

[21:49:09]

kormoc:

Zider, really tho, joy sicks aren't considered hotplugable, nor are keyboards really. Doesn't X get confused by the disapperance of the keyboard?

[21:49:22]

kormoc:

randy-rhodas, why private? why not just ask in channel rather then spamming asking for help?

[21:49:49]

randy-rhodas:

i did ask :-)

[21:49:58]

randy-rhodas:

HI .. i got a big problem.. please help... When i installing mythtv, i got this message : E: mythtv-database: underprosess post-installation script returned error status 1 My distro is Ubuntu Dapper drake.

[21:50:05]

kormoc:

randy-rhodas, so wait for an answer, rather then keep spamming it :P

[21:50:15]

Zider:

kormoc: not really, I've hotswapped keyboards and mices many times.. only ps2 stuff are a bit tricky..

[21:50:43]

randy-rhodas:

sorry...

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kormoc:

huh, I was rather sure X would complain about the core input device going away

[21:51:15]

Zider:

never happened to me at least

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kormoc:

Zider, but like, how many joysticks should it scan for? how many other devices should it scan for every second on every mythbox in the world?

[21:51:30]

radi0head:

Hello.

[21:52:03]

Zider:

kormoc: just the one configured in joystickmenurc

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mishehu:

anybody have a motorola dct 1700 and uses an irblaster with it? I'm having problems – it uses the same remoote as the DCT2000, and I'm using lirc's DCT2000 config. all digits work *except* for 0.

[21:52:30]

mishehu:

so if I try to change the channel to 100, it goes to channel 1.

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radi0head:

Can anyone help me with this error while trying to compile the latest stable (0.19) release of mythtv?

[22:03:10]

radi0head:

http://mythtv.pastebin.com/670244

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stuarta:

where did you get that compiler from????

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radi0head:

stuarta; gcc?

[22:06:57]

jonK:

can anyone here answer a template question?

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radi0head:

I tried with version 0.18.1 and I get the same thing.

[22:08:24]

stuarta:

radi0head: it's the gcc you are using that's broken.

[22:08:45]

radi0head:

stuarta; Hmm... brb.

[22:09:16]

radi0head:

stuarta; I'm using Slackware-current's gcc.

[22:09:30]

radi0head:

It seems alright with every other apps I compile.

[22:09:51]

radi0head:

WHich is version 3.4.5

[22:10:36]

stuarta:

well it's a POS. you are getting an ICE which is bad.

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radi0head:

Define "ICE"

[22:11:03]

radi0head:

Internal compiler error.

[22:11:12]

radi0head:

d'oh!

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haj:

recording from both tuners on a PVR-500 in a box with an old 500MHz Celeron.. 80–95% cpu-usage..

[22:14:13]

haj:

its a bit tough on the old box :)

[22:14:59]

kormoc:

haj, you sure DMA is enabled on your drives?

[22:15:46]

haj:

kormoc: well, yeb.. the box is using encrypted drives though.. that might be eating a bit of cpu :o/

[22:16:06]

stuarta:

p

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kormoc:

haj, oh, certainly does

[22:16:07]

haj:

kormoc: normally its a A64 3200+, but the motherboard broke..

[22:16:19]

kormoc:

icky

[22:16:45]

haj:

kormoc: on the faster cpu the disks are slower than the encryption ;)

[22:16:52]

dtm:

haj: hahahaha

[22:16:58]

dtm:

encrypted ?!?!!

[22:17:25]

haj:

dtm: build it for fun some time ago, also, i have stuff i like encrypted ;o)

[22:17:41]

dtm:

i've heard of lots of people bending over backwards to engineer a mythtv system to DECRYPT a tv stream....

[22:17:41]

haj:

dtm: it's a bit silly on the mythdisk though..

[22:17:59]

kormoc:

haj, that's what lookback crypto systems are for! :P

[22:18:16]

haj:

kormoc: it's dmcrypt.. not loop-back :)

[22:18:28]

kormoc:

you can use dmcrypt on a loopback

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haj:

i could, but it would not make much sense..

[22:18:53]

kormoc:

why not?

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kormoc:

then only the things you want encrypted are, and the rest of the system which doesn't matter isn't encrypted

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haj:

because i just wanted the disks encrypted.. why should i loop them if it's not needed?

[22:19:56]

RaYmAn-Bx:

what's the point of encrypting your recordings in the first place

[22:19:58]

RaYmAn-Bx:

?

[22:20:24]

scopeuk:

so his mom doesent find all the late night "entertainment" hes been recording

[22:20:29]

kormoc:

haj, cause of things like this, why spend the cycles encrypting recordings? do you honestly care? and doesn't it suck to not be able to have the machine powercycle without you there?

[22:20:41]

haj:

RaYmAn-Bx: theres no point.. i just reused a crypted disk for myth when i first set it up..

[22:20:59]

haj:

RaYmAn-Bx: it dosn't use enough cpu on the 3200+ to annoy me.. :)

[22:21:24]

kormoc:

haj, I know that when I have a power out, I like my mythbox to start back up and start recording again, rather then waiting for me to notice and type in a password

[22:21:38]

haj:

kormoc: the machine powercycles fine without me.. though i need to log in to it remote and set up the encryption..

[22:22:09]

haj:

scopeuk: haha... nah.. thats not it :)

[22:22:18]

scopeuk:

yeh ill belive you this time

[22:22:27]

kormoc:

haj, right, and thus, myth can't record until you fix it, I consider that not a sucessful powercycle till you fix it

[22:22:43]

Blinkk:

anyone ever have a problem with irrecord reading only a few buttons on a remote but not others?

[22:23:56]

haj:

kormoc: power out's are not a big problem in my area.. i think we have like 2 a year or something like that..

[22:24:04]

haj:

kormoc: it's not a big deal..

[22:24:26]

kormoc:

haj, fair nuff, it would just annoy me to no end to miss things that I wanted

[22:24:35]

scopeuk:

heh last power outage at my home was 3 – 4 year ago

[22:24:59]

scopeuk:

im havign tunning issues atm or maby crap antena syndrom sums it up better

[22:25:32]

** haj can't remember the last power out.. think it was last year when a major powerfailure hit most of copenhagen... **

[22:25:47]

RaYmAn-Bx:

haj: and we can blame the swedes for that!

[22:26:46]

haj:

RaYmAn-Bx: yeb.. they need to get more nuclear power plants ;)

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haj:

kormoc: anyway.. the encryption is a bit silly.. i just build it for fun, and i have been to lazy to remove it since it works fine and dosn't eat to much performance with the cpu i normally use..

[22:29:36]

kormoc:

fair nuff

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haj:

uhm.. bedtime..

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haj:

goodnight :)

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kormoc:

night!

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stuarta:

evening juski

[22:49:21]

Juski:

evening stuarta. how goes it? still grafting hard getting that pesky code bang to rights?

[22:50:00]

stuarta:

something like that. having a D&M with the scanning code.

[22:50:22]

Juski:

I have a sense of accomplishment tonight – got the pipes sorted out for my towel radiator. damn chrome pipe needed grinding so I could solder it

[22:50:41]

Juski:

oops this isn't #plumbing is it? heh

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stuarta:

off the top of you head, would channels 726–729 be txt or radio channels?

[22:51:33]

Juski:

radio I think

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Juski:

some nerd has all that info on a website somewhere

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stuarta:

ahah, I think they are teletext channels!

[22:52:32]

** stuarta suspects he has that link bookmarked **

[22:52:36]

Juski:

apparently not... http://www.dttboxes.co.uk/channels.html

[22:52:53]

Juski:

oh wait... on the other hand... d'oh!

[22:54:51]

Juski:

actually – thinking about the scanning stuff – is there any way you could stop the paytv channels being picked up? like ignore mux A or something?

[22:55:28]

stuarta:

used to ignore them when doing the scan

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Juski:

bugger. the pay stuff is on more than just mux A

[22:55:55]

scopeuk:

unlucky

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stuarta:

there is free stuff on all muxes

[22:56:18]

Juski:

its really annoying that freeview boxes get all the channels & they have no way to delete them

[22:57:00]

Juski:

e.g. when I go to my parents' place... channel surfing is silly cos there are loads of channels they can't get but they're all still there

[22:57:13]

stuarta:

favourites?

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scopeuk:

our freview box use to let you add and remvoe channels at will i belvie (cant test its now at my grandpearents we got the cable back)

[22:58:11]

Juski:

yeh maybe favourites...

[22:58:38]

Juski:

I hope this ofcom rule won't change things much (the bastards)

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stuarta:

tho the matsui topuptv1 STB, only allows 30 favourites, which isn't enough for all free channels :-/

[23:00:37]

Juski:

more than enough for the free ones _worth_ having though ;-)

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stuarta:

maybe it was 20. it was 1 or 2 short of everything I needed.

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Juski:

dammit

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Juski:

bloomin ntl dns servers going daft again

[23:07:01]

scopeuk:

you guys seen the philips patent on locking out your remote while adverts are on so you cant change chanel ect to avoid them

[23:07:09]

scopeuk:

oh no god help us

[23:07:12]

Juski:

yep

[23:07:13]

scopeuk:

they did this a few days ago

[23:07:22]

Juski:

it'll be good ;-)

[23:07:24]

scopeuk:

thats just dumb (both counts)

[23:07:27]

scopeuk:

godo for us

[23:07:42]

Juski:

the holy grail of commflagging :-D

[23:07:50]

Juski:

"look! this is an advert!!"

[23:08:17]

scopeuk:

hehe look this is the boom button

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Beirdo:

muhahhahaha

[23:08:30]

Juski:

if all the DRM crap gets out of hand I'm gonna junk my telly

[23:08:35]

Beirdo:

my devel box now has 5... count-em... 5... nvidia cards in it

[23:08:43]

Juski:

either that or just bloody well download everything

[23:08:49]

scopeuk:

damn where is my are you mad sound when i need it

[23:08:54]

Blinkk:

anyone ever have a problem with irrecord reading only a few buttons on a remote but not others?

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stuarta:

Beirdo: that's just being greedy :-P

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scopeuk:

this is one ofthe main reasonsfor piracy in my opinion you get a copy of the material minus adverts drm all the other retarded stuff they now do

[23:09:35]

Juski:

Blinkk: might be caused by the remote using slightly different protocols for different button groups

[23:09:36]

Beirdo:

stuarta, it's for development of gputrans

[23:10:08]

Juski:

gpu assisted transcoderyfying.. I like the sound of that

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Beirdo:

got 2 * GF4 MX440, 1 * GF4 MX4000, 1 * FX5500, 1 * 6600

[23:11:07]

stuarta:

that's an awful lots of screens to fit on your desk

[23:11:09]

Beirdo:

I have nearly as much total video RAM as system RAM

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Zider:

Beirdo: gimme one, I'm stuck with a tnt1 :(

[23:11:28]

Beirdo:

I won't be hooking screens to them

[23:11:49]

Beirdo:

and I picked up a 6600LE for the PVR to replace the ATI 9600Pro

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Beirdo:

I just need to plunk it in there

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Blinkk:

Juski: it happens in the number buttons :( itll pick up 1 and 2.. .but when i get to 3 it stops :(

[23:12:33]

Beirdo:

and then rebuild shit as the drivers won't be there, etc

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SlicerDicer-:

damn it

[23:13:47]

SlicerDicer-:

ARGH!

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Juski:

Blinkk: weird city

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SlicerDicer-:

ok some oddness going on here maybe one of you can maybe help me why this is doing this

[23:14:59]

SlicerDicer-:

I have a crontab setup to do a series of commands to change my plugreport output

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SlicerDicer-:

moment doing paste

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SlicerDicer-:

http://rafb.net/paste/results/Z3DxEP60.html

[23:16:12]

SlicerDicer-:

if you look at it you will notice that the channels vary from top to bottom on node 1

[23:16:39]

SlicerDicer-:

under the crontab I have it so it will run a series of commands on reboot

[23:17:23]

Juski:

jees man, not only is analogue being switched off by 2012, DTT is going to move to 8k mode from 2k 8-/

[23:17:35]

SlicerDicer-:

'plugctl -n 1 oPCR[0].channel=0' 'plugctl -n 1 oPCR[0].n_p2p_connections=1' 'plugctl -n 2 oPCR[0].channel=1' 'plugctl -n 2 oPCR[0].n_p2p_connections=1'

[23:17:56]

SlicerDicer-:

now what that should be doing is switching the channel to 0 on node 1 and p2p connections on node 1 to 1

[23:18:05]

SlicerDicer-:

on node 2 it should be doing channel 1 and p2p connections to 1

[23:18:06]

stuarta:

IIRC correctly 8k 64QAM, is on par with 2k 16QAM when it comes to noise rejection

[23:18:19]

Beirdo:

hmmm, I guess I should see if I can find ANY nvidia drivers pre-"built" for the FC1 kernel I have on my PVR

[23:18:20]

SlicerDicer-:

the problem is for some reason it does not set it properly and sets node 1 to channel 1

[23:18:44]

SlicerDicer-:

so I have to manually go in force p2p connection back to 0 change to channel 0 then back to p2p connection 1

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SlicerDicer-:

and then my firewire works

[23:18:57]

Juski:

stuarta: well thats good news for those of us who decode with software ;-) less good for the thousands of peeps who are still using ITV digital boxes

[23:19:02]

SlicerDicer-:

is it the time that the cron runs on bootup perhaps that not all the firewire is detected?

[23:19:26]

SlicerDicer-:

is there anyway I can delay a reboot cron to run say 45 seconds after bootup?

[23:19:34]

SlicerDicer-:

but not continual running?

[23:20:28]

SlicerDicer-:

sorry for the complete spam of my problem haha but I wanted to get all the info out on the table

[23:20:47]

RaYmAn-Bx:

you could have the cronscript background another script that then sleeps 45 seconds and continues to run what you want run

[23:21:11]

SlicerDicer-:

RaYmAn-Bx: good idea

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** Beirdo shudders **

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SlicerDicer-:

Beirdo: it may be messy but it might just work

[23:21:36]

SlicerDicer-:

unless you have another idea

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Beirdo:

apt-get -s upgrade on my PVR gives: 207 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 removed and 42 not upgraded.

[23:22:11]

Beirdo:

this is SO gonna fuck the machine

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scopeuk:

well you know

[23:22:26]

SlicerDicer-:

Beirdo: ohh you were not talking bout that

[23:22:27]

SlicerDicer-:

haha

[23:23:16]

Beirdo:

I think I'll chip away at the crap it wants to upgrade, see if I can't reduce the list some

[23:23:32]

Beirdo:

like perl can be done without borking my PVR functionality

[23:23:38]

SlicerDicer-:

Beirdo: got any ideas on how to do that cron on reboot?

[23:23:44]

Beirdo:

not off hand

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Beirdo:

why cron?

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SlicerDicer-:

Beirdo: reboot

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Beirdo:

why not put it in an init file?

[23:24:02]

SlicerDicer-:

everytime it reboots I need to execute a series of commands

[23:24:08]

Beirdo:

right

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SlicerDicer-:

Beirdo: that could work

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Beirdo:

rc.local (in the slackware days) was for exactly that

[23:24:26]

SlicerDicer-:

but kormoc said not to as it can BORK BORK BORK when I update

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Beirdo:

most distros have something similar

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SlicerDicer-:

but then again I could do a extra script

[23:24:38]

Beirdo:

exactly :)

[23:24:40]

Beirdo:

a new script

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SlicerDicer-:

Beirdo: there is a bunch of shit that has to fire up though hehe

[23:25:00]

SlicerDicer-:

its a huge mess to do what I am doing

[23:25:09]

SlicerDicer-:

if I do it all by hand I have a rockin kick ass mythtv

[23:25:17]

SlicerDicer-:

now I just need to figure out how to get it to work properly on bootup

[23:25:17]

SlicerDicer-:

hehe

[23:25:22]

Beirdo:

make a script

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Beirdo:

:)

[23:25:25]

SlicerDicer-:

Beirdo: I got the daisy chained firewire cableboxes going

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Beirdo:

cool

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SlicerDicer-:

100% reliable on livetv and recording

[23:25:50]

SlicerDicer-:

2 days of hairloss though

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SlicerDicer-:

hehe

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Beirdo:

shave your head, makes it easier

[23:26:20]

SlicerDicer-:

then I would be clawing my scalp and bloody fingernails

[23:26:25]

SlicerDicer-:

no I would rather rip out my hair

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Juski:

I recently bobbed an ivtvctl command into my startup script – very handy for turning dnr_temportal to 0

[23:27:22]

Beirdo:

WTF is PHP doing on my PVR?

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SlicerDicer-:

Beirdo: I will try new script let you know how it goes

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Juski:

Beirdo: mythweb?

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Beirdo:

and XMLTV?

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Beirdo:

I run mythweb on my webserver :)

[23:27:45]

Beirdo:

not on the PVR

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Juski:

ah

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Beirdo:

apt-get remove php

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Beirdo:

ahhhh

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Beirdo:

that's likely how it got there though

[23:28:23]

Beirdo:

back in the days when I used the RPMs

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Beirdo:

don't need xchat on there either

[23:31:32]

Beirdo:

here goes fun

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Beirdo:

apt-get install rpm

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Beirdo:

heheh

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Beirdo:

I so need to rebuild this thing

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SlicerDicer-:

ok Beirdo done hehe

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SlicerDicer-:

renamed it mythbackendfirewire

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SlicerDicer-:

and commented everything as to what it does and am going to put it on the wiki under my username as it will be a buncha random shit about firewire

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Beirdo:

cool

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SlicerDicer-:

Beirdo: I doubt there is much I dont know about how to make the firewire work with these blasted dct6200's and I know what not to do hehe

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SlicerDicer-:

I know how to merge 2 audio and 2 video signals together with a daisy chain its quite impressive

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kazan:

hey guys

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kazan:

anyone here using lirc_serial?

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Beirdo:

hehe

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SlicerDicer-:

Beirdo: even make it so that the recordings puke due to harddrive overload!

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SlicerDicer-:

I cant run 3 cableboxes at once without raid I guess

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AngryElf:

my pchdtv card came today — since everything's working well it's time to blow it all up again

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AngryElf:

kazan, yes

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SlicerDicer-:

AngryElf: YEHAW!!!

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SlicerDicer-:

I love doing that

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Juski:

kazan: yup

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SlicerDicer-:

I did that 3 days ago with switching to firewire from my pvr350

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AngryElf:

my antenna isn't here tho

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AngryElf:

SlicerDicer, how'd it work out?

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Juski:

bits of wet string and a plug, a good antenna do not make ;-)

[23:35:43]

kazan:

AngryElf when i try to modprobe lirc_serial i get "Error inserting lirc_Serial: deice or resource busy"

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** Beirdo bitch-slaps atrpms **

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kazan:

(note: this is with a IR receiver I just built, i'm not 100% sure it's good)

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** kazan never uses atrpms because they're dependancy hell **

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Juski:

kazan: methinks the serial port is still being used by /dev/ttys0

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Beirdo:

waiting for headers...

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AngryElf:

kazan, did you setserial first?

[23:36:22]

kazan:

no :P

[23:36:27]

Beirdo:

well, I used it ages ago, this is my last Fedora box

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Beirdo:

FC1

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kazan:

it's ttyS2 btw (3E8, irq4)

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AngryElf:

kazan, setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart none

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kazan:

bingo

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kazan:

ty

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AngryElf:

since we're talking lirc

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kazan:

YES

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kazan:

mode2 receives!

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SlicerDicer-:

AngryElf: well its getting there

[23:37:19]

AngryElf:

my lirc on that FE still doesn't work :( everything else on the box related to irc works....but not in mfe

[23:37:25]

AngryElf:

*lirc

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SlicerDicer-:

Beirdo: yay it worked! doing the script

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Beirdo:

excellent :)

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kazan:

so i'll have to put setserial /dev/ttyS2 uart none, modprobe lirc_serial into rc.local

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Juski:

kazan: now you'll either: A) have to put the setserial command in a startup script (before loading the lirc_serial module), or rebuild your kernel without serial port support

[23:38:14]

AngryElf:

kazan, thrown in lircd too

[23:38:38]

SlicerDicer-:

AngryElf: are you doing OTA on the pchdtv?

[23:38:38]

kazan:

i can set that to autostart

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AngryElf:

SlicerDicer, yea i'm going to

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kazan:

i need to setup codes for this remote

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AngryElf:

but i've got no antenna yet

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kazan:

it's a generic radioshack universal remote

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SlicerDicer-:

AngryElf: nice hehe

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AngryElf:

and i'm also in a relative geographical hole, so i'm worried it's not gonna work well

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Juski:

kazan: irrecord is your friend ;-)

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SlicerDicer-:

sounds like me getting the cableboxes for firewire and not having firewire cables lol

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SlicerDicer-:

then spending a day finding the cables that were 6 pin to 6 pin

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kazan:

juski: i just set the remote to emulate a tivo remote :D

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kazan:

wonder if anyone already has a config out there for it

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AngryElf:

and having to pay local retail prices on a firewire cable? that's bad too :(

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** Beirdo chuckles and addes at-bleeding to sources.list **

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AngryElf:

kazan there's a ton of them on lirc's website

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Juski:

kazan: sometimes it's easier & quicker to make your own

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Beirdo:

W: Release file did not contain checksum information for http://apt.atrpms.net/fedora/1/en/i386/base/pkglist.at-bleeding

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Beirdo:

woohoo!

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Beirdo:

fcuk this

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Beirdo:

let's try at-testing

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Beirdo:

no checksum there either

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AngryElf:

dammit, no more jelly beans :(

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kazan:

brb

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SlicerDicer-:

Beirdo: well it set the plugreport settings correct

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SlicerDicer-:

something else is borked

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SlicerDicer-:

hehe

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SlicerDicer-:

and the incredible thing is

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kazan:

mb[;;;;;p

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kazan:

kitties walking on keyboards

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SlicerDicer-:

everything has to be done in a precise order or it will not work

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_gnome42:

ugh, i lost audio on my bt878 card after a reboot. Plugging speakers directly into bt878 card gets no audio in myth, does in xawtv. Any ideas?

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AngryElf:

why is it that after i make && make install lirc it results in /dev/lirc AND /dev/lirc0.......but after i reboot and modprobe lirc_serial I only get /dev/lirc0 ?? and/or should i not care and just use /dev/lirc0?

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_gnome42:

AngryElf: they are the same, just use lirc0

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Beirdo:

ah the hell with it

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Beirdo:

upgrade time

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Beirdo:

removed atrpms for now

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** AngryElf watches things blow up **

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Beirdo:

then upgrading

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laga:

re guys

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** laga beers Beirdo **

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Beirdo:

then I'll put it back in and break it again

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AngryElf:

does myth read ~/.mythtv/lircrc when mfe is started?

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Beirdo:

nothing strace can't tell you

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AngryElf:

yay more syntax to learn :(

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radi0head:

stuarta; I fixed the ICE error by doing rm -rf /tmp/.ICE-unix

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radi0head:

stuarta; login as root, reloading X to recreate the dir/files, loged out of X and reloaded X as user.

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