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Saturday, April 8th, 2006, 00:04 UTC

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alex777:

hm can anyone help me with this error I'm getting from mythweb ? :

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alex777:

Fatal Error at /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/includes/mythbackend.php, line 166:

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alex777:

Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION 'MYTH_PROTO_VERSION 26':

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deniidil:

you're frontend and backend are mismatched versions i think

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deniidil:

s/you're/your .... grr

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deniidil:

oh.. mythweb

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alex777:

they can't be, it worked just a few hours ago

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deniidil:

your mythweb is out of version sync with your backend

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alex777:

the only thing I messed with was lirc and irblaster

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alex777:

nothing else

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deniidil:

no idea then

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sneezer:

Aneurysm9, I got scp working

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sneezer:

thanks for the tip — lets see how the compile goes

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alex777:

here's the entire error that I get from mythweb: http://pastebin.com/647119

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sneezer:

if I get a directory that I compiled a program in — will I have to recompile if I'm on the same distro/arch?

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deniidil:

what do you mean

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sneezer:

I am copying a folder that I got and compiled from (got it from svn) another computer... will I have to compile it again?

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deniidil:

you wouldn't have to if everything on the two systems is identical

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deniidil:

but i highly recommend you recompile

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deniidil:

because identical is extremely unlikely

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sneezer:

its identical

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sneezer:

same arch and distro

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sneezer:

same kernel too

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deniidil:

i still recommend recompiling

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sneezer:

I'll make install and see if it works

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sneezer:

is there a way to list how much ram you have in a computer?

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deniidil:

cat /proc/meminfo

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d64:

free

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deniidil:

?

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sneezer:

yeah — i figured that...

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deniidil:

hehe

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sneezer:

if I do make distclean will it wipe the folder clean of compiled stuff?

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deniidil:

um... if you're using KDE pull up info center

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Agrajag-:

deniidil: use top. note that free ram isn't a useful figure at all

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Agrajag-:

err sneezer rather

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d64:

the +/- bufffers/cache line in "free" is somewhat useful

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sneezer:

so the line mem: is my real ram?

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d64:

it gives some idea of how much mem actually is free

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deniidil:

hmm

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deniidil:

i have two 80GB identical drives... thinking of using them as LVM (system drive is 15G) but i've never setup one....

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deniidil:

any thoughts for/against using LVM to store my vids?

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sneezer:

yay lvm

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sneezer:

lvm is sexy

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d64:

i've only used lvm on one drive

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sneezer:

deniidil, if I do a make distclean will that force it to recompile?

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d64:

but i don't see a reason why not, really

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sneezer:

I'm setting up lvm right now — so if you want we can both go through it

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deniidil:

make clean should be good enough

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deniidil:

i'm still installing prereqs of myth's various dependancies

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deniidil:

freaking ubuntu's deb repos only have mysql 4.0.x

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deniidil:

FOUR FREAKING ZERO!

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deniidil:

hrm :/

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deniidil:

perl Makefile.PL failed on xmltv – can't locate Term/Readkey.pm

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deniidil:

ahjahaaha

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deniidil:

i didn't need xmltv :/

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** deniidil gives himself 10 dumbass points **

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sneezer:

so what was the final verdict on finding out how much ram you have?

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alex777:

anyone able to help me with this error from mythweb ? http://pastebin.com/647136

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sneezer:

you have a different version of mythweb than mythbackend

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alex777:

it can't be, it worked a few hours ago

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alex777:

and I installed it using knoppmyth

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sneezer:

duno... 26 is 0.19 stable — so just copy the files over...

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the-dead:

how do i scan the tuner on my tv card for channels? xmltv doesn't give me the frequencies

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sneezer:

mythtv-setup

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sneezer:

its an option in *channel*

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sneezer:

i don't remember the name its #5 and it says channel in it

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the-dead:

thanks, i'll try it

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deniidil:

ok... i've created my PVs, my VG and activated my VG for LVM

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deniidil:

now how the heck to i mount it?

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sneezer:

one sec

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sneezer:

lvextend -L+sizeofdriveG /

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the-dead:

sneezer: can't find it

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sneezer:

so for a 300g drive it would be lvextend -L+279.3G /

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sneezer:

http://hyams.webhop.net/mythtv/myth_ubuntu.html go to 9.5.2

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deniidil:

.......

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sneezer:

thats the tutorial I followed

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deniidil:

that looks like it's for adding partitions

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sneezer:

9.5.2?

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sneezer:

"Later on, should you want to add a new hard drive to this logical volume, just do the following (here, I am adding the entire 300GB drive /dev/sda to the LV):

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sneezer:

"

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deniidil:

yeah... that's for lvextend is for adding

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deniidil:

i'm creating a brand new array

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sneezer:

ohh

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deniidil:

i needed to lvcreate a logical volume

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sneezer:

9.5.1

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deniidil:

no 9.5 section in the howto i'm looking at

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deniidil:

and i'm done with lvcreate now

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deniidil:

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/index.html

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sneezer:

where are you at in that?

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deniidil:

i've initialized the disks, created the VG, activated the VG, created the logical volume

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deniidil:

i know have /dev/video_storage/mythvideos which is a symlink to /dev/mapper/video_storage-mythvideos

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deniidil:

do i mkfs -t ext3 /dev/video_storage/mythvideos and then also use that same location in mount

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deniidil:

(i used to already formatted ext3 partitions to created my PVs)

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deniidil:

s/to/two

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marcus2:

hm

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sneezer:

hrm.... lvm was installed on my system from install — and I have to VGs named Ubuntu

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marcus2:

i just upgraded from ivtv 0.4.0 to 0.4.2... and now my reception quality is crap

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sneezer:

marcus2, why did you upgrade?

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marcus2:

i just got another tuner card

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deniidil:

.......

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deniidil:

lvm was installed on my system too

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marcus2:

and it is only supported by 0.4.2

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sneezer:

ohh

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deniidil:

when i was initially installed

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deniidil:

i'm talking about creating the actual volume and mounting it

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sneezer:

ahh

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sneezer:

i'm in need of that too

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deniidil:

i've created the Physical Volumes on two different identical 80GB disks with 1 diskwide ext3 partition, created a volume group and activated, created a logical volume on it

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sneezer:

marcus2, okay — is this the new tuner that has bad reception? or the old one?

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marcus2:

both of them

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the-dead:

how do i scan for channels direct on the tuner without getting the channel list from the internet?

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WHiTE^^BOX:

is it possible to make a kickstart installation including mythtv, lirc, nvidia...?

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marcus2:

i really wish i had a normal (non-pc) tuner around to test out

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sneezer:

deniidil, I have a volume group and its activated and I don't want to remove it so I guess I need — so I don't need to do 11.2 – 11.4 which brings me to vgextend

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eiggirC:

Can I strip the audio off a recording and make a mp3 of it ?

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WHiTE^^BOX:

yes

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WHiTE^^BOX:

with myth

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WHiTE^^BOX:

no

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deniidil:

sneezer...... you don't even understand what i'm saying

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deniidil:

and i found the answer to my question on ibm.com

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deniidil:

once the LV is setup that gives you the /dev/[volume_group_name]/[logical volume name] device you treat it like you would /dev/hdc1 and mkfs -t ext3 ... and mount it that way

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eiggirC:

WHiTE^^BOX: thanks dude.

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deniidil:

mounted :D

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WHiTE^^BOX:

np

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WHiTE^^BOX:

kino or lives will do it

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someguy0500o5:

hey all, I have a weird issue... I have connected everything to MythTV, and everything seems to be functioning fine, but the only channel I can get access to is 6 (NECN). Whenever I try to change the channel, I only see snow. I tried connecting a regular TV to the same cable input, and it showed all channels as it should. I am running KnoppMyth, with an AMD Athlon 1ghZ 516mg RAM, and using a Hauppauge PVR-350. Any idea

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someguy0500o5:

*512

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mmead:

Aneurysm9: did you figure out your issue?

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WHiTE^^BOX:

scan for the channels

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someguy0500o5:

i did, it only shows 5 and 6

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someguy0500o5:

and only 6 comes in

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WHiTE^^BOX:

EIT scan?

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deniidil:

does it matter if i use mysql 4.1 or 5.0?

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mmead:

does the tv show 2–4, 7–13?

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someguy0500o5:

haven't tried EIT

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mmead:

deniidil: not from what I've seen

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WHiTE^^BOX:

well.. thats the way to scan

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deniidil:

then i'll use 5

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someguy0500o5:

(using a single monitor... brb)

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WHiTE^^BOX:

k

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mmead:

EIT is listing data from HDTV channels, isn't it?

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the-dead:

You _MUST_ run 'mythfilldatabase --manual the first time, instead of just 'mythfilldatabase'. Your grabber does not provide channel numbers, so you have to set them manually. <-- does mythtv supports grabbing the channels from the tuner and NOT from the xmltv thing?

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WHiTE^^BOX:

hdtv?

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WHiTE^^BOX:

no.. the signal from the cable comapys

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mmead:

ahh

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WHiTE^^BOX:

*company's

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mmead:

I see

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WHiTE^^BOX:

*companies

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WHiTE^^BOX:

**champane**BEER**

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the-dead:

why does noone answer me?

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WHiTE^^BOX:

yes

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WHiTE^^BOX:

EIT SCAN

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deniidil:

yes it does the-dead

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deniidil:

channel scan in setup

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deniidil:

it's in the docs

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the-dead:

i don't see channel scan

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WHiTE^^BOX:

and we have been talking about it for the last 5 minutes

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WHiTE^^BOX:

type: mythtvsetup

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WHiTE^^BOX:

or mythtv-setup

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WHiTE^^BOX:

3rd

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WHiTE^^BOX:

new

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the-dead:

WHiTE^^BOX: sorry, i can't know if you mean me or another one if you don't write "the-dead: ..."

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WHiTE^^BOX:

<mmead> EIT is listing data from HDTV channels, isn't it?

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WHiTE^^BOX:

<WHiTE^^BOX> no.. the signal from the cable comapys

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mmead:

?

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deniidil:

does mysql 4.0 work? because i don't feel like manually installing this shiat :/

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WHiTE^^BOX:

so.. EIT scans whatever its seen on ur cable

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WHiTE^^BOX:

the-dead

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the-dead:

ok, i'm in that window now...but i can't see EIT...where is it?

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mmead:

deniidil: it is working fine for me

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WHiTE^^BOX:

deniidil...yes

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the-dead:

i only see the xmltv stuff

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deniidil:

k

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deniidil:

no version-requirements information in the docs

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WHiTE^^BOX:

switch through it

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marcus2:

hm looks like my reception issues might be related to the weather

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WHiTE^^BOX:

the-dead..

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the-dead:

WHiTE^^BOX: it isn't in the xmltv script list and also not in the table for the channel frequencies

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WHiTE^^BOX:

mythtvsetup --> 3 --> XMLTV Grabber --[change it to]---> Transmitted guide only..

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the-dead:

not in the list

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WHiTE^^BOX:

try that.. that will do it

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WHiTE^^BOX:

:/

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WHiTE^^BOX:

mythtvsetup.. PRESS ENTER

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the-dead:

i only see some countries in the list

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WHiTE^^BOX:

use LEFT .. RIGHT..

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WHiTE^^BOX:

goto 3

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WHiTE^^BOX:

NEW

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WHiTE^^BOX:

press enter

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WHiTE^^BOX:

PRESS DOWN

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WHiTE^^BOX:

PRESS RIGHT

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WHiTE^^BOX:

lol.. it is there

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WHiTE^^BOX:

where did u build it from?

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the-dead:

gentoo ebuild

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mmead:

ahh, gentoo

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the-dead:

and i still say that it isn't in the list

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WHiTE^^BOX:

you dont see this :/

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WHiTE^^BOX:

http://www.shadowstyle.nl/Screenshot.png

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the-dead:

nope

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WHiTE^^BOX:

which are in the list?

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the-dead:

north america (datadirect) || lxm (united states) || germany (tvtoday) || sweden ...... || estonia

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the-dead:

maybe some other settings aren't correct?

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WHiTE^^BOX:

if you do like. north america.. do you see the option EIT

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WHiTE^^BOX:

just above channel frequency table?

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deniidil:

the shit they don't install on this distro... ffs

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WHiTE^^BOX:

which distro?

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deniidil:

what provides "qmake"

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deniidil:

Kubuntu

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the-dead:

WHiTE^^BOX: nope, believe me, it isn't there...

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jrthegoob:

anybody get mythtv running with ati tv wonder pro/elite?

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deniidil:

oh.. qt

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deniidil:

right

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WHiTE^^BOX:

ati..

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jrthegoob:

i installed mmc and the cx88 modules but i cant get /dev/video... i also reboot and now dont know which modules ot load.. uhh oh

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WHiTE^^BOX:

nooo

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deniidil:

ATI TV Wonder = POS card, not supported

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deniidil:

(not linux supported AFAIK)

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WHiTE^^BOX:

the-dead.. you should rebuild mythtv from source or emerge

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jrthegoob:

deniidil: it says it is in the /Documentation

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the-dead:

WHiTE^^BOX: if i rebuild it with emerge then i get exactly the same as now...

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jeff-a:

jrthegoob — which documentation are you looking at?

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jrthegoob:

cx88 documentation

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WHiTE^^BOX:

then from source.. or get the package else where,.. its broken.

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deniidil:

jrthegoob: says what in the docs?

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jrthegoob:

the message board says bttv though

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WHiTE^^BOX:

yes

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WHiTE^^BOX:

ati uses bttv

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deniidil:

hrm :/

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deniidil:

wtf

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Juski:

good luck getting ATI crap to work

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WHiTE^^BOX:

hauppauge x50 ivvt

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Juski:

all-in-wonder why it won't work in Linux ;-)

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WHiTE^^BOX:

heh same from me

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jeff-a:

jrthegoob — I wouldn't expect very good quality though... Get yourself a Hauppauge PVR-x50 card if you want good quality...

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deniidil:

ATI Video cards = teh awesome (except for XvMC), ATI Video Capture Cards = teh suck

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Juski:

only some older cards will work – and then mainly the ones not part of vga cards

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WHiTE^^BOX:

and the ati cards u get for free with a happy meal

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jeff-a:

deniidil – I don't know if I agree with the first part either — I put a Radeon 9200 in my A64 3000 sysem and it couldn't play HD...

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Juski:

I've got an AIW-Pro (rage128) and it's a total PoS

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jeff-a:

deniidil – I dropped in a GF 5500, and it plays perfectly...

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deniidil:

jeff-a: that's because of XvMC

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deniidil:

_ONLY_ time i'd buy an nVidia card is for a mythbox

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WHiTE^^BOX:

nvidia / hauppauge and microsoft rc :D

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Juski:

wouldn't work right in windows, never mind linux, so I got 3 proper tuners

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Juski:

anyway...

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deniidil:

hrm... wtf why is ./configure giving me "DVD playback no"

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jeff-a:

deniidil – It didn't even show a picture with HD with the 9200... Standard-definition worked fine, but HD didn't show at all...

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deniidil:

jeff-a: sounds like your driver settings were bad

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deniidil:

though the 9200 = low end board

[01:30:02]

jeff-a:

WHiTE^^BOX: Yeah, the M$ RC is great — I have two of them... Thats about the only MC product that I love...

[01:30:25]

WHiTE^^BOX:

:D agree on that ;)

[01:30:59]

WHiTE^^BOX:

only bad thing in my mythbox is the maxtor hdd

[01:31:10]

WHiTE^^BOX:

MAAAAAXToooooOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

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WHiTE^^BOX:

god damn NOISE!

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jrthegoob:

how do i make /dev for my card?

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jeff-a:

Hey, can I use a dash or dot in the channel numbers with .19 now?

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WHiTE^^BOX:

mythtvsetup should add it in /dev

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jeff-a:

(for HD channels)

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WHiTE^^BOX:

hmm dunno

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deniidil:

hey guys

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WHiTE^^BOX:

loveeee mythstream :D

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deniidil:

why is configure giving me "DVD Playback no" ... andno --enable-dvd option listed on ./configure --help

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WHiTE^^BOX:

hey

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WHiTE^^BOX:

deniidil.. what does mplayer do?

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deniidil:

ha

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deniidil:

i thought mplayer wasn't required anymore

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deniidil:

one of the features listed in 0.19

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WHiTE^^BOX:

can you play dvd's?

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jrthegoob:

WHiTE^^BOX: it doesnt

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the-dead:

WHiTE^^BOX: can you please log in to you mysql db and do a select * from videosource;?

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deniidil:

i haven't tried on this system

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deniidil:

no idea if mplayer is even installed

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jrthegoob:

WHiTE^^BOX: mythtv-setup wont word because my card doesnt have /dev

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deniidil:

no xine, no mplayer

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WHiTE^^BOX:

install mplayer

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WHiTE^^BOX:

jrhegoob.. ill check

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deniidil:

i thought 0.19 said it wasn't required anymore

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WHiTE^^BOX:

1 NLXML tv_grab_nl default NULL NULL 0

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WHiTE^^BOX:

2 EITSCAN eitonly default NULL NULL 1

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WHiTE^^BOX:

it aint.. but you want to use the plugins

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jrthegoob:

WHiTE^^BOX: i want to get a plugin?

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WHiTE^^BOX:

noo. not you

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jrthegoob:

WHiTE^^BOX: how do i get that device to show up

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the-dead:

WHiTE^^BOX: thx

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WHiTE^^BOX:

thats the video source.. not the devices

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jrthegoob:

right

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jrthegoob:

i should have a video source in there.. but i dont

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jrthegoob:

i have all hte modules loaded up

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WHiTE^^BOX:

video sources are located in db under caturecard

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WHiTE^^BOX:

select * from capturecard

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WHiTE^^BOX:

1 /dev/video0 NULL NULL MPEG Tuner 1

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WHiTE^^BOX:

2 /dev/video1 NULL NULL MPEG Tuner 1

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jrthegoob:

i dont have a /dev/video*

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the-dead:

jrthegoob: do you have v4l in your kernel?

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jrthegoob:

yes

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jrthegoob:

and loaded

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the-dead:

jrthegoob: ls -l /dev/v4l

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the-dead:

jrthegoob: ls -l /dev/v4l/

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someguy0500o5:

v3mj4hq

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jrthegoob:

i dont have /dev/v4l/

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WHiTE^^BOX:

me neather

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jrthegoob:

something in my installation process got hosed

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WHiTE^^BOX:

did you install the proper modules?

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jrthegoob:

ok for starters.. how do i reset my db password

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WHiTE^^BOX:

ivvt.. bttv?

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jrthegoob:

i think thats where i may have gone wrong

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jrthegoob:

cx88

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WHiTE^^BOX:

#sql :P

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WHiTE^^BOX:

which cap. card have?

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jrthegoob:

ati tv wonder elite

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WHiTE^^BOX:

try reinstalling the propper modules .. modprobe.. mythtvsetup.. capture card

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jrthegoob:

WHiTE^^BOX: i have

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WHiTE^^BOX:

its ati.. never used that under linux

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** WHiTE^^BOX left.. back to mythstream.. mr been 24/7 :D **

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jeff-a:

white^^box — what was that link to your video file?

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achew22:

how do I remove mythtv entirely?

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WHiTE^^BOX:

which file?

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WHiTE^^BOX:

1 /dev/video0 NULL NULL MPEG Tuner 1

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WHiTE^^BOX:

?

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WHiTE^^BOX:

http://www.shadowstyle.nl/Screenshot.png

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WHiTE^^BOX:

?

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jeff-a:

white^^box — No, this is J-e-f-f-A — I changed my nick to not be so annoying... The one a couple of hours ago, when you installed the codec in /win32/...

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WHiTE^^BOX:

ooh lol

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WHiTE^^BOX:

J-e-f-f-A is much better :D

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achew22:

jeff-a, how do I recompile myth from scratch?

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achew22:

agreed — J-e-f-f-a is way better...

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jeff-a:

achew22, white^^box — yeah but a few people yelled about it...

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jeff-a:

achew22 — Not sure to tell you the truth... I installed from RPM's with YUM... I'm using Fedora Core 4...

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achew22:

hrm....

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achew22:

i doubt unmake will do it

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J-e-f-f-A:

so you like this one better, eh?

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WHiTE^^BOX:

well.. isnt my nick annoying?

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Beirdo:

YES :)

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Beirdo:

hehe

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WHiTE^^BOX:

lol

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WHiTE^^BOX:

http://www.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/code . . . 0412.tar.bz2

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achew22:

will make uninstall?

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J-e-f-f-A:

I think some people were annoyed when tyring to type it to respond to me-- i dunno...

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J-e-f-f-A:

Ok, I'll continue to use my 'original' nick then... ;-)

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WHiTE^^BOX:

J-e-f-f-A.. just put it in /usr/lib/win32/ or whatever mplayer askes for

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havoc:

hmm, almost time for me to start messing with myth again

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J-e-f-f-A:

Ah... now I remember — it was you, havoc, last-night with the client that wanted to move the server "now", right? How'd it go? ;-)

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havoc:

J-e-f-f-A: surprisingly well

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J-e-f-f-A:

Earlier today I thought it was Beirdo — oops, sorry! ;-)

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havoc:

I wrote a perl script to rip through /etc/ and replace all the old IPs with the new ones

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J-e-f-f-A:

havoc: and you accomplished that in your 'happy' state?!?

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havoc:

ran it before shutdown and move, and it came up fine, no problems at all

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havoc:

which was a shocker

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WHiTE^^BOX:

grep.. awk.. crap!

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J-e-f-f-A:

havoc: hehe...

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havoc:

J-e-f-f-A: yeah, weird ay?

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J-e-f-f-A:

havoc: You're good, that's all... ;-)

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havoc:

not really, more "practiced" than "good" :|

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achew22:

havoc — how do I uninstall myth, so I can reinstall with the fixes release

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J-e-f-f-A:

havoc: How about "Experienced"... that sounds better!

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** havoc has f*ckin dreams about sysadmin crap :( **

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havoc:

achew22: what distro?

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achew22:

ubuntu — but I did make; make install

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havoc:

J-e-f-f-A: yeah, I guess that applies too :)

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havoc:

achew22: I'm prolly not the guy to ask then

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havoc:

but a goog makfile has an "uninstall" target

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havoc:

good

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achew22:

that sounds goog

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havoc:

anyone know if myth has an uninstall target?

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achew22:

if I just recompile will it replace everything?

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** WHiTE^^BOX beer and myth time **

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Beirdo:

make -n uninstall

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Beirdo:

find out ;)

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achew22:

alcohol and linux are a tough thing to mix

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achew22:

yay Beirdo is around!

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J-e-f-f-A:

achew22: I dunno.. havoc did just fine last-night... ;-)

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achew22:

Beirdo is awesome...

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havoc:

achew22: 'make' just builds it, 'make install' copies files, and if the locations haven't changed, then old crap will be overwritten

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achew22:

Beirdo is the reason waldo is hiding

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Beirdo:

!trout Waldo

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** MythLogBot slaps Waldo with a trout on behalf of Beirdo... **

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havoc:

ok, Dr. Who is over now, *now* I can get my own myth tv running :)

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achew22:

ohh no! you found him

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achew22:

who is Dr. Who?

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achew22:

!slap Dr. Who

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achew22:

aaw... why doesnt slap work

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jrthegoob:

s

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jrthegoob:

<jrthegoob> Starting MythTV server: mythbackendSession management error: Could not open network socket

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achew22:

!trout Dr. Who

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** MythLogBot slaps Dr. Who with a trout on behalf of achew22... **

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havoc:

ACK!

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jrthegoob:

but i dont have anything on that 6543/6544

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havoc:

how can you not know what Dr. Who is?

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achew22:

should I know who he is?

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Beirdo:

what self-respecting geeek doesn't know of Dr. Who?

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achew22:

i'm not self respecting...

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havoc:

ok, now I'm gonna ask some stupid questions, like what is the difference between mythtv and mythfrontend?

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achew22:

frontend doesn't have dvd and stuff

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achew22:

when you type mythtv it goes straight into view mode

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havoc:

and which should I be using to watch live tv w/ the option of pausing/rewinding live tv?

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Beirdo:

huh?

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jrthegoob:

anybody get their cx88 card working?

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Beirdo:

the frontend uses the same code as mythtv

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J-e-f-f-A:

Umm... mythtv is the name of the 'product'... mythfrontend is the frontend application...

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achew22:

wow... frontend *HAS* dvd and stuff

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achew22:

run mythtv as an application — its interesting

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havoc:

J-e-f-f-A: there is a 'mythtv' binary

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achew22:

yep

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achew22:

ohh its a british show...

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achew22:

I watch The IT crowd

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havoc:

achew22: yes

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havoc:

BBC show

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J-e-f-f-A:

ah... didn't know that... Learn something new every day... ;-(

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J-e-f-f-A:

:-)

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achew22:

yep... and you get a trout for not beleiving us ;)

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havoc:

J-e-f-f-A: gah, how are you gonna help *me* then? ;)

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achew22:

!trout J-e-f-f-A

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** MythLogBot slaps J-e-f-f-A with a trout on behalf of achew22... **

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havoc:

ok, lets give this a go then

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achew22:

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J-e-f-f-A:

Does that mean I have to start talking in sweedish fish now? ;-)

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achew22:

no but you get bonus points if you do....

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** havoc looks up controls for mythfrontend **

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achew22:

ooh — would someone be willing to help me with lirc on ubuntu?

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havoc:

ack, no volume :(

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marcus2:

hm

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marcus2:

so i have a couple of different tuner cards in my system, and the volume level is not consistent between cards

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achew22:

marcus2 what kind of cards?

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marcus2:

is there a way of fixing this?

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marcus2:

a pvr-250 and a pvr-500

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achew22:

you need to look up ivtvctl

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marcus2:

ah ok

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achew22:

it has a card specific volume setting

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achew22:

that should get it

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achew22:

2^9th because it creates pops in my recordings

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achew22:

I dropped the volume to 56000

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havoc:

and mythtv crashed :(

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achew22:

sad panda

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havoc:

maybe it's just this crappy wintv-go card :(

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achew22:

lol wintv-go

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achew22:

I would only use that if I were converting my old vhs tapes

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Beirdo:

la la la...

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Beirdo:

=== CAPTURING to /opt/mp3/publicradiofan/output/Romantic_Hours_-_Fri_07_Apr_2006_09-55–01_P M_EDT_-_WXEL.mp3.wav ===

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Beirdo:

=== CAPTURING to /opt/mp3/publicradiofan/output/This_American_Life_-_Fri_07_Apr_2006_09-55– 01_PM_EDT_-_KUOW.mp3.wav ===

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Beirdo:

muhahhaha

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achew22:

I got a wintv-pvr-150 lp-mce and it has a fm tuner, can myth play fm?

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Beirdo:

I need to support a "Now Recording" list on the weeb

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Beirdo:

hmmm

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achew22:

you could change the color of the text for the currently recording programs on the recordings list in "recorded programs," that would provide a similar way to check as in mythfrontend

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havoc:

I get this when I change channels via keypad+enter: http://rafb.net/paste/results/rs28fE40.html

[02:12:11]

havoc:

is that an OS, install/config, or crappy hardware problem?

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achew22:

what the crap!

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achew22:

what are you running?

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havoc:

mandriva cooker

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havoc:

with a crappy wintv-go card

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achew22:

no — mythtv

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achew22:

what version?

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achew22:

did you compile it?

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havoc:

achew22: PLF RPMs

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achew22:

compile it yourself

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havoc:

ack

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achew22:

its not that scarry

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havoc:

it's not that

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havoc:

I'm just *lazy* ;)

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havoc:

I think I've already demostrated at least a basic level of competence ;)

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achew22:

ready...

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havoc:

at least enough to build from source

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havoc:

ok, I guess I can do this

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havoc:

Beirdo: so you'd recommend building from source as well? (you seem like the guy to ask)

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havoc:

I think I'm gonna order that pvr500 from newegg; the wife has given me permission

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rtsai:

havoc: pvr500 has new-ish hardware that isn't quite smoothly supported by ivtv yet

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rtsai:

you might want to consider pvr150 instead

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havoc:

but...but, I wanted the dual tuners :(

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Beirdo:

I have used source for about a year now

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havoc:

Beirdo: yeah, but aren't you one of the guys writing it?

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Beirdo:

nah, not at this point

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rtsai:

there are two models of pvr500. The "old" one has a Philips tuner and is well-supported. The "new" one has a Samsung tuner and is not quite there yet. I ordered my pvr500 from newegg about 2 months ago and it's a Samsung, and it doesn't work very well

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Beirdo:

I work on other stuff external to myth though

[02:22:02]

havoc:

ah, but you are the one who wrote that mythtv irc faq, right?

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Beirdo:

I started it, yes

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J-e-f-f-A:

rtsai- ha? Okay, maybe I have the 'old' one then... it works perfectly...

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rtsai:

I don't think newegg can help you cherry pick.

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Beirdo:

oh WOW

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havoc:

Beirdo: ok, I had actually *read* it ;)

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Beirdo:

I have 8G of MP3 on this disk?!

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rtsai:

J-e-f-f-A: check your /var/log/messages; the ivtv logs will identify the tuner model

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Beirdo:

/dev/sdb1 56G 7.8G 49G 14% /mnt

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Beirdo:

hmmm

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rtsai:

J-e-f-f-A: tveeprom 4–0050: tuner model is Samsung TCPN 2121P30A :(

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Beirdo:

better grow /opt/mp3 first :)

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havoc:

rtsai: that sucks :(

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rtsai:

it's the price to pay for bleeding edge

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havoc:

rtsai: well, thanks for the info

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rtsai:

i was seduced by the two tuners as well, now I have to wait

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rtsai:

havoc: who knows, maybe you'll get lucky

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havoc:

rtsai: what exactly is wrong eith the ivtv drivers?

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rtsai:

nothing. They just have to keep up with the new hardware

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havoc:

(for the samsung models)

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havoc:

clarification: what isn't supported?

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rtsai:

The ivtv mailing list has reports that they don't tune very well. And mine ... doesn't tune very well.

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havoc:

ok

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rtsai:

I can only get three channels, and not very well (static, no audio)

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havoc:

gah

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rtsai:

The current hypothesis is that the built-in fm tuner is causing interference or something, so the ivtv people need to figure out how to turn it off

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havoc:

*that* goes beyond 'not working very well'

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havoc:

ah

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rtsai:

it works fine in windows

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havoc:

but myth doesn't run in wondows

[02:25:49]

havoc:

heh, that was actually a typo

[02:25:52]

rtsai:

i'm saying the hardware is fine, so it's software

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havoc:

right

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rtsai:

if you're considering pvr-x00 you should lurk on ivtv

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rtsai:

the website isn't very complete

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havoc:

but if I want myth working in say the next month I should choose a different card

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havoc:

rtsai: #ivtv on freenode?

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rtsai:

AFAIK there's only #ivtv-dev. I only read the mailing lists

[02:27:21]

rtsai:

havoc: like I said, if you get a Philips tuner then you'll probably be fine

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havoc:

rtsai: what about the 250 and 350 from newegg?

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havoc:

those still philips?

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J-e-f-f-A:

rtsai: my system's been up for 23+ days... no message in /var/log/messages for the tuner model anymore...

[02:31:06]

havoc:

rtsai: what would you choose and why: pvr150 or pvr150-MCE?

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jrthegoob:

hhow does myth compare to the windows software such as beyondtv and sagetv?

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the-dead:

is it possible to grab the channels without mythtv-setup? (i changed the mysql db by hand to enable eit, now i need to get the chanels from eit)

[02:32:11]

J-e-f-f-A:

jrthegoob: I dunno, besides perhaps mythtv and the os that it runs on are FREE...

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jrthegoob:

ya who cares... you already paid for windows and the other software is like $60

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the-dead:

you paid for windows?

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jrthegoob:

im hoping for a performance upgrade

[02:33:54]

jrthegoob:

at some point i did

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J-e-f-f-A:

jrthegoob: Not me... I put together my own systems... and with windoze costing $80-$140 for xp nowadays, I'd prefer to use Linux for all my myth systems... ;-)

[02:34:04]

jrthegoob:

when i bought my laptop a few years back i paid for windows

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jrthegoob:

this system i put together... but i still have xp cds

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J-e-f-f-A:

jrthegoob: Yeah, my laptop is XP. But I don't have that in the basement running myth, and it don't have pci slots for tuners... ;-)

[02:35:07]

havoc:

hmm, it looks like the pvr150 is a good bet if I don't need FM

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eiggirC:

pvr 150 is great

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jrthegoob:

well J-e-f-f-A , legally then.. you could erase windows from your laptop and put it on your pc

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eiggirC:

only thing better is a pvr 500 cos it takes one less slot

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havoc:

eiggirC: we've alreay identified some problems with that

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havoc:

mainly the new cards with samsung tuners and ivtv

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the-dead:

is it possible to grab the channels without mythtv-setup? (i changed the mysql db by hand to enable eit, now i need to get the chanels from eit)

[02:37:26]

marcus2:

is there a way to make mythtv do commercial detection *after* transcoding?

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rtsai:

marcus2: yes

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rtsai:

marcus2: it's in mythtv-setup somewhere

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rtsai:

marcus2: my system is set up that way

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marcus2:

hmm

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marcus2:

oh found it

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marcus2:

dunno why i didnt notice that before, thanks

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jrthegoob:

ok im going to give this one more try

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jrthegoob:

my card is a cx88 type..i installed the modules from the 2.6.x kernel but im not getting a /dev/video0 or anything in /dev for that matter... what have i done wrong

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marcus2:

next, i will see if i can get DRM/DRI working with my nvidia chipset and ati video card

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** marcus2 doesnt have high hopes :( **

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havoc:

ok, if I don't need/want FM or dual tuners, the plain wintv-pvr-150 looks like the most bang for the buck

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havoc:

at least I'm buying it on the biz account ;)

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havoc:

yay pre-tax dollars

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havoc:

"um, I needed it for video editing for a client"

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jrthegoob:

if one of us worked for the irs youd be hosed right now

[02:43:38]

havoc:

not really

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marcus2:

you need dual tuners

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jrthegoob:

kinda like that peterast from the department of homeland security

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havoc:

marcus2: I *do*, but I've been told the new pvr500's use a new samsung tuner not entirely supported by ivtv yet

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marcus2:

i just installed one

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marcus2:

with the samsung tuner

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marcus2:

seems to work just fine to me

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havoc:

hmm

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marcus2:

you have to use ivtv 0.4.3 or better

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marcus2:

or 0.4.2 with a one line patch

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havoc:

rtsai: you getting this?

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marcus2:

tuner: type set to 68 (Samsung TCPN 2121P30A) by ivtv i2c driver #2

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havoc:

rtsai: this may be a way for you to get your card working properly

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rtsai:

marcus2: that didn't work on my system

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marcus2:

what version of ivtv?

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rtsai:

ivtv-0.6

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marcus2:

ah

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marcus2:

i'm running 0.4.2 with the patch

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rtsai:

I can't use 0.4x because I also have HD3000 in my system which require stock kernel tveeprom

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marcus2:

works great, both tuners look as good as the pvr-250 that is also in the system

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rtsai:

are you using ivtv tveepeom or kernel tveeprom?

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rtsai:

(what kernel?)

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marcus2:

2.6.13

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marcus2:

not really sure which tveeprom i'm using

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marcus2:

looks like the ivtv tveeprom

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rtsai:

does your /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ivtv have some *eeprom*?

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rtsai:

yeah

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marcus2:

since my kernel module tree doesnt have a tveeprom module

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rtsai:

I don't want to give up HDTV for ivtv

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marcus2:

sux

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marcus2:

get another backend!

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marcus2:

;)

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rtsai:

heh

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rtsai:

we already have 4 computers for two people

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marcus2:

hm

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marcus2:

do you have the 0.6.0 source unpacked?

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rtsai:

yep

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rtsai:

it won't hurt for me to try tuner=68

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rtsai:

(again; last I tried was with -0.4)

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marcus2:

just out of curiousity

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marcus2:

look in driver/tuner.c

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marcus2:

what are the params in there for the 2121P30A tuner?

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rtsai:

umm, I don't have a tuner.c

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J-e-f-f-A:

rtsai: I have 8 computers for 1 people... me ;-)

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deniidil:

ok wtf

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rtsai:

i think that was something Hans said went away for -0.6

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deniidil:

i have alsa and mplayer installed

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marcus2:

oh hm

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deniidil:

still no alsa support and no dvd playback

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J-e-f-f-A:

rtsai: and another for my son, and one for my wife...

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rtsai:

marcus2: a ha, probably ivtv-tuner.c

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deniidil:

grrr

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marcus2:

oh hm

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marcus2:

heres what you need

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marcus2:

look in misc/samsung.diff in the 0.6.0 source tree

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marcus2:

its a kernel patch

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marcus2:

that fixes the same params that were fixed in ivtv 0.4.3

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deniidil:

.......

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marcus2:

look at linux/drivers/media/video/tuner-types.c in your kernel source

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rtsai:

marcus2: 2.6.16.1 drivers/media/video/tuner-types.c [http://pastebin.com/647275]

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rtsai:

marcus2: heh, right with ya

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marcus2:

i guess you're running 2.6.16.1 ?

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deniidil:

hey guys

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marcus2:

oh well, so much for that thought :)

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rtsai:

marcus2: yes, and 2.6.16.1 has this patch (hans mentioned it on ivtv mailing list)

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rtsai:

marcus2: yeah :(

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marcus2:

sux

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marcus2:

guess i wont be upgrading to 0.6.0 any time soon :)

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rtsai:

marcus2: way to get my hopes up

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marcus2:

i can provide a good home for the card if its feeling unloved

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marcus2:

;

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marcus2:

;)

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deniidil:

..............

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marcus2:

how about running mythtv under xen, and running a seperate guest os with a second backend

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marcus2:

;)

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marcus2:

i wonder if that would actually work

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marcus2:

oh well, time for dinner

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marcus2:

good luck

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deniidil:

hey rtsai

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J-e-f-f-A:

what the heck is that all about ^^^^

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achew22:

J-e-f-f-A maybe, we will never know...

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achew22:

but a better guess is that a whole crap load of channels got attacked-- so he is oging to repair them

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eiggirC:

marcus2: good idea – you'd loose a lot to overhead that could be used by the backend

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eiggirC:

just tell the backend to run more than one task at a time

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achew22:

HAHAHAH! bare naked ladies has a song called "Be My Yoko Ono"

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deniidil:

so guys

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deniidil:

configure gives me ASLA and DVD Playback "no" – but i have alsa and mplayer installed and everything – i even looked inside configure for enable switched (configure --help doesn't list them) and tried them but they were ignored

[03:06:50]

deniidil:

what give

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deniidil:

+s

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deniidil:

i'n answer would be appreciated....

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deniidil:

bleh s/i'n/an (dunno how i made that typo...)

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J-e-f-f-A:

deniidil — no ideah...

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achew22:

maybe we don't know — we don't know everything... were not supermodels

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deniidil:

a simple "don't know" is preferable to nobody saying anything

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achew22:

actualy I wouldn't prefer that

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deniidil:

i would

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achew22:

how many people are in the channel?

[03:10:35]

deniidil:

it tells me someone read it

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achew22:

100+ unique users in this channel

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achew22:

if noone new you would get 100+ lines of text in the channel and it would be useless

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achew22:

its like talking in a channel filled with bots that are sending gloabal commands

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deniidil:

a simple "don't know" from soneone is preferable to nobody saying anything – i didn't say everyone had to talk

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achew22:

you must be new to this irc thing....

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deniidil:

no

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deniidil:

don't assume someone is new simply because they don't have the same preferences as you

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achew22:

why not?

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deniidil:

must you really ask that question?

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deniidil:

the answer to that question should be obvious

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achew22:

ohh wait — I thought the topic was sugest rediculous ideas

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deniidil:

this is a constructive train of conversation "let's presume someone is a newb because they prefer to know someone actually read what they said"

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achew22:

okay — if you want to try to bring it back to that... why should we help you with alsa when there is a #alsa channel?

[03:16:06]

deniidil:

because it wasn't an alsa problem

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deniidil:

it was a mythtv problem

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deniidil:

with mythtv's configure script

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deniidil:

which i just solved by digging into the configure script and reading the code in it

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achew22:

I would bet its not configured right

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achew22:

thats my honest explanation of why its not working

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deniidil:

ubuntu didn't have the headers installed

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achew22:

so... you fixed it yoursef?

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deniidil:

yes by having to decipher the config script

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deniidil:

fixed dvd now too

[03:17:59]

deniidil:

dev packages weren't installed for alsa and dvdnav

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deniidil:

ubuntu installs almost nothing it seems

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achew22:

thats why it fits on a 700mb cd...

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deniidil:

heh aye

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achew22:

its got way to dl stuff thats quite effective

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deniidil:

it's also why i'm using it for the distro on which i'm basing my machine

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deniidil:

i know i have Adept open

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achew22:

the reason I am using it is because its not very hard to setup

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deniidil:

i find Fedora easier to setup

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deniidil:

but that's probably mostly familiarity

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havoc:

mofo

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achew22:

just use apt-get

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achew22:

its not that painfull

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deniidil:

i've used apt-get

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havoc:

stupid assholes attacking freenode and closing the network :(

[03:19:52]

deniidil:

though it was the rpm/yum repo port :D

[03:20:00]

deniidil:

script kiddies should be shot

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havoc:

yeah, I lost power due to my laziness in changing the failing ups battery, and then I couldn't reconnect :(

[03:21:37]

havoc:

was frustrating :(

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havoc:

but then so are kiddie and bot attacks

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** havoc *knows* **

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deniidil:

i hate waiting for compiles

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achew22:

I have 2 going on, on 2 different computers... i've been waiting for so long

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** havoc ponders ubuntu **

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eiggirC:

deniidil: get a distcc farm working

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achew22:

eiggirC do you have one?

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achew22:

deniidil you could script kiddie your way into a large campus and use them to compile your stuff! its genious

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eiggirC:

achew22: yeah – all my servers run distcc

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achew22:

are they remote or local?

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eiggirC:

so my P3 700 laptop compiled 2.6.16.1 in 11 minutes

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eiggirC:

over wireless too

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achew22:

can I plug into your discc?

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eiggirC:

achew22: no sorry.

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achew22:

are the servers in your house?

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eiggirC:

no – they;re in my garage

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eiggirC:

teh server shed :)

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achew22:

but they are on a lan

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achew22:

not wan

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eiggirC:

yeah on my lan.

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archpollux:

hi

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eiggirC:

I wish mythbackend could use distcc to do the transcode

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achew22:

eiggirC how many do you have?

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eiggirC:

and nuvexport too

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eiggirC:

achew22: three, a dual P3 866 (mythbox), a dual P2 350 (lug shellbox) and a C1.7 (main server)

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archpollux:

i'm having a zap2it problem: when i give it my zipcode, it doesn't show my cable company, but this cable company has one channel which is a tv guide and it lists itself as Zap2it TV Guide

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achew22:

eiggirC so my 2.2,2.3 and maybe I could cygwin my windows (1.8) would rock at compiling?

[03:31:38]

eiggirC:

achew22: yeah – would go faster for sure

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eiggirC:

achew22: do you compile a lot ?

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achew22:

some — but I really don't like compiling

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J-e-f-f-A:

eiggerC: hey... same main box as me.. dual P3 866 ;-)

[03:32:13]

eiggirC:

heh I remember the LFS crowd, and to some extent the gentoo lot

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J-e-f-f-A:

eiggerC: (at least for myth...)

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achew22:

eiggirC is distcc hard to setup?

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archpollux:

is there a way to search by cable company?

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J-e-f-f-A:

archpollux: try the zip of an adjacent city... That may do the trick for you.

[03:34:26]

archpollux:

hmmm

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eiggirC:

achew22: nope – apt-get install distcc and edit a config file

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achew22:

where is the config file?

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** deniidil sighs **

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achew22:

and does the process change... is it still ./configure, make, make install?

[03:35:21]

deniidil:

omg... /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXv

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archpollux:

also, where are the actual channel frequencies stored? i also see freqid in the channel table

[03:37:24]

Captain_Murdoch:

libs/libmythtv/frequencies.c

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havoc:

Yes, I already know the answer to this question (as I've given it a few times already myself here), but I'm looking for *opinions* now; What distro(s) do you use/recommend for 1) workstation + mythtv boxs, and 2) dedicated mythtv devices?

[03:38:22]

havoc:

Does anyone have a reason not to use say debian or ubuntu on a workstation + mythtv box?

[03:38:54]

deniidil:

yes

[03:38:57]

deniidil:

it's a pain in the butt

[03:39:06]

deniidil:

the linker cannot find the freaking Xv library now ...

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havoc:

deniidil: deb?

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deniidil:

kubuntu

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achew22:

go with ubunth

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achew22:

ubuntu — then apt-get install kde

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havoc:

gah, it's just ubuntu + kde

[03:40:04]

havoc:

I hate this "kubuntu" stuff

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achew22:

i know — but kde was really hard to setup for me

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havoc:

drives me nuts

[03:40:08]

deniidil:

kubuntu = ubuntu with KDE instead of gnome

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deniidil:

they package it seperately and everything.. kinda silly

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havoc:

deniidil: the reason is to keep a single install iso

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J-e-f-f-A:

havoc: I've only had experience with Fedora Core (2, 3 & 4 so far), Knoppmyth and Xebian (on my xbox). I prefer Fedora Core – Knopp didn't work as smooth with my particular frontends out of the box...

[03:41:06]

havoc:

however I don't know why they are puching the "kubuntu" stereotype thing

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deniidil:

FC4 it's pretty easy to install myth on

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havoc:

J-e-f-f-A: I'm slowly moving away from rpm based systems

[03:41:42]

havoc:

and this box is gonna do a lot more than just myth

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deniidil:

hardest part is yum install asla alsa-dev (don't remember if that's the actual package name)

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havoc:

(not a dedicated 'tv')

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deniidil:

wtf .... /etc/ld.so.conf WRU

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havoc:

ok, would I be *screwed* going with ubuntu?

[03:42:36]

deniidil:

i'm starting to think that

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havoc:

deniidil: that may just be you ;)

[03:42:57]

deniidil:

ha

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deniidil:

no this is being a total PITA

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havoc:

but I'm lazy and I'd rather resolve namespace conflics than figure out why a lib isn't being used

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havoc:

i.e. I'd rather have it do *something* than nothing

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havoc:

can you tell I'm impatient? ;)

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havoc:

(about some things anyway)

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deniidil:

ld.so.conf doesn't EXIST on this system for some reason

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deniidil:

that's the last straw

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achew22:

make it

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havoc:

deniidil: ack, *taht* is bad

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havoc:

kinda fscks the linker

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deniidil:

no it's running

[03:48:54]

deniidil:

seems to be running on some default internals or some stuff

[03:48:59]

deniidil:

and the ld.so.cache is there...

[03:49:19]

deniidil:

oh... and when i first installed gcc i just picked the generic "gcc" heading and it installed gcc4

[03:49:27]

deniidil:

and couldn't build excutables – no crt1.so

[03:49:33]

deniidil:

installed gcc3.4 and it started working

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deniidil:

and i had to manually copy over console.perms from my fedora machine at work

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deniidil:

all kinds of pretty stuff

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havoc:

lilo_: hi :)

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achew22:

lilo_, what was with that global notice? did some channels get attacked?

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deniidil:

havoc: now i'm downloading Fedora 5 DVD :D about 85 minutes to go at this data rate

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havoc:

achew22: I got zlined or something along with all other new connects when I got dropped before

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havoc:

lilo fixed it :)

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achew22:

lilo — good man... good man.... unless your a girl — in which case, i'm not going to say "good girl" I'm going to say great job

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havoc:

I missed to global cuz that's when I had the power outage :(

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deniidil:

lol IRCop nick collision

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sneezer:

what does "symbol lookup error: /usr/local/lib/libmythavcodec-0.19.so.0: undefined symbol: png_encoder" mean?

[04:11:44]

havoc:

means the function/reference png_encoder was asked for, but isn't found/doesn't exist

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achew22:

is there a way to fix that?

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havoc:

get the library that has png_encoder

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havoc:

but I don't know what lib that is

[04:14:42]

havoc:

but that's what the error means

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achew22:

crap....

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achew22:

will I have to recompile?

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havoc:

if you get the version of the lib it's currently looking for, 'no'

[04:15:55]

havoc:

if you get a different versiont han what it's expecting then 'maybe'

[04:16:16]

havoc:

it looks like it's dynamically linked, hence the no/maybe

[04:16:24]

havoc:

it's not compiled in in other words

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sneezer:

so... what would get png_encoder?

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havoc:

sorry, no clue :(

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havoc:

well, *some* clue, I'd guess it'd be in some PNG library ;)

[04:19:19]

sneezer:

crap

[04:19:47]

sneezer:

okay, how do I know if I have resolved the lack of libpng

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havoc:

do what you did that generated the error?

[04:20:23]

sneezer:

mythfrontend

[04:20:39]

havoc:

do it again, if no error, then it's fixed

[04:20:50]

sneezer:

no such luck

[04:21:18]

havoc:

you could try rebuilding

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havoc:

as I said, different versions make a difference

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sneezer:

sudo apt-get -y build-dep mythtv

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sneezer:

should resolve the conflict right/

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havoc:

heh, no clue, sorry

[04:22:40]

sneezer:

consarnit...

[04:30:11]

sneezer:

anyone on who runs myth on ubuntu?

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** havoc *will*, but not right now **

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Beirdo:

I declare my streaming radio capturing software stable for my purposes

[04:31:24]

Beirdo:

now I just need to break it more

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sneezer:

Beirdo, do you know if myth has support for FM?

[04:31:55]

Beirdo:

haven't heard of any

[04:32:12]

sneezer:

there isn't a mythfm plugin?

[04:32:13]

** Beirdo is listening to a Blue Jays game **

[04:32:13]

sneezer:

too bad

[04:33:04]

Beirdo:

captured from a stream from an AM radio station in St. Catherines.

[04:33:04]

Beirdo:

hehe

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GiantPickle:

Does anyone feel like helping me try to get my nuvexport working? I'm trying to export to DVD ultimately. I've been messing around, and now it is telling me I have no valid recordings. Can anyone lend a hand?

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sneezer:

GiantPickle, does it say anyhting else?

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Beirdo:

GiantPickle, sorry, too late for me, I'm gonna head for bed

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Beirdo:

this is SO lame

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Beirdo:

I live like a mile from where this game was played

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GiantPickle:

Loading MythTV recording info.

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GiantPickle:

DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Unknown column 'basename' in 'field list' at /usr/local/share/nuvexport/mythtv/recordings.pm line 67.

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GiantPickle:

No valid recordings found!

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Beirdo:

and I streamed the broadcast from 100 miles+ away

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GiantPickle:

Beirdo: haha... the things a Jays fan has to do.. =)

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the-dead:

i have a hauppauge wintv go2 with a Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 chip (lspci is my friend) is this card supported by mythtv? if yes, what card do i have to select in mythtv-setup?

[04:35:53]

Beirdo:

well, the Raptors game was on the Toronto station that usually broadcasts the games

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GiantPickle:

sneezer: the above is after I run nuvexport

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sneezer:

Beirdo, will you help me for 30 sec

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sneezer:

GiantPickle, will you put it on pastebin?

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Beirdo:

dunno if I can, I'm pretty wiped out

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sneezer:

will youtake a stab at it?

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GiantPickle:

sneezer: Can you refresh my memory on how to do that?

[04:37:04]

sneezer:

I get a "mythfrontend: symbol lookup error: /usr/local/lib/libmythavcodec-0.19.so.0: undefined symbol: png_encoder" when I run mythfrontend

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marcus2:

does anyone here have DRM working properly with an ati video card and an nvidia motherboard chipset?

[04:37:30]

Beirdo:

sneezer, looks like you are missing a library or something

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sneezer:

GiantPickle, its okay that you don't know, the channel gets that a lot. go to http://www.pastebin.com and there should be a box — type it out or copy and paste, then push submit

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Beirdo:

hell if I know which one though

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sneezer:

Beirdo, I tried to get it from apt

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sneezer:

its not listed as png_encoder....

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marcus2:

i'd gues the lib he is missing is libpng

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GiantPickle:

sneezer: And you just want me to paste what the output is?

[04:38:24]

sneezer:

yep

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Beirdo:

I'd bet marcus2 is correct, or really really close

[04:38:42]

sneezer:

I got all the png things listed

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GiantPickle:

sneezer: done

[04:39:55]

sneezer:

can I get the link?

[04:39:58]

GiantPickle:

sneezer: need this number 647345

[04:40:01]

GiantPickle:

?

[04:40:06]

GiantPickle:

http://pastebin.com/647345

[04:40:08]

GiantPickle:

sry

[04:40:20]

sneezer:

don'y worry...

[04:40:52]

sneezer:

wow...

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Beirdo:

bed...

[04:42:11]

sneezer:

night

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the-dead:

i have a hauppauge wintv go2 with a Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 chip (lspci is my friend) is this card supported by mythtv? if yes, what card do i have to select in mythtv-setup?

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achew22:

yes its supported

[04:44:10]

achew22:

it would be a v4l card

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the-dead:

hm, but why do i get a card detection error?

[04:44:32]

achew22:

is it really installed?

[04:44:45]

achew22:

is the kernel setup for it?

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the-dead:

yes

[04:44:58]

the-dead:

and dmesg says: tuner 0–0061: tuner type not set

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GiantPickle:

sneezer: wow... what?

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achew22:

GiantPickle I have no freaking idea....

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achew22:

the-dead I don't think the card is working properly then...

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the-dead:

achew22: but the driver is compiled into the kernel....not as a module

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achew22:

linux is very strange

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marcus2:

nice, i'll be recording 6 episodes of law and order tomorrow

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sneezer:

marcus2, what do you run?

[04:57:19]

marcus2:

what do you mean?

[04:57:24]

sneezer:

distro

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marcus2:

oh

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marcus2:

gentoo

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marcus2:

why?

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sneezer:

I am having issues...

[04:58:48]

marcus2:

with what

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sneezer:

mythfrontend: symbol lookup error: /usr/local/lib/libmythavcodec-0.19.so.0: undefined symbol: png_encoder

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marcus2:

yes i saw that

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sneezer:

its very strange

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marcus2:

somehow your libavcodec didnt get linked against libpng, is my guess

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marcus2:

very odd indeed

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sneezer:

i did apt-cache search png | grep lib and found all the libs

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sneezer:

i recompiled and it didn't fix it

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marcus2:

ldd /usr/local/lib/libmythavcodec-0.19.so.0 | grep png

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marcus2:

i dont see how it would have gotten compiled in the first place if you didnt have png around

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GiantPickle:

sneezer: Got any suggestions for my stinkin' nuvexport problem?

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achew22:

libpng12.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0 (0xb7101000)

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achew22:

GiantPickle sorry — not having any luck

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GiantPickle:

achew22: thanks anyway

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** achew22 == sneezer **

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marcus2:

oh m

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marcus2:

hm

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achew22:

different boxes

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GiantPickle:

ah

[05:02:21]

GiantPickle:

I was confused

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GiantPickle:

lol

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achew22:

marcus2 you got any ideas?

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marcus2:

er, i was trying to help sneezer

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achew22:

marcus2 i'm sneezer, would you like me to go back ot that computer

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marcus2:

oh sorry hah

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marcus2:

i'm only reading half my screen apparently

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sneezer:

its just that that computer has futurama on it

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sneezer:

so, do you have any ideas?

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marcus2:

what are you trying to run when you get that error?

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achew22:

mythfrontend

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sneezer:

marcus2, mythfrontend

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marcus2:

i have no idea where png_encoder comes from

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marcus2:

thats wierd

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sneezer:

wait... could it be a plugin?

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sneezer:

if I disable mythgallery?

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marcus2:

it looks like it might be part of ffmpeg

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sneezer:

how do you know that?

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marcus2:

just guessing based on some googling

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sneezer:

ahh

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sneezer:

so do I need to reget ffmpeg?

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marcus2:

no clue

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sneezer:

i'm going to try that

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marcus2:

i dunno if its going to get you anywhere

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sneezer:

its worth a shot

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sneezer:

doesn't look good

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marcus2:

i think its pretty odd that it even compiles, if you're getting that error when you run it

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sneezer:

yep

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marcus2:

does recompiling mythtv really recompile libmythavcodec?

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marcus2:

check the timestamp

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sneezer:

how do I do that?

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marcus2:

um

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marcus2:

ls -l ?

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sneezer:

yeah but where?

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marcus2:

ls -l /usr/local/lib/libmythavcodec-0.19.so.0

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marcus2:

?

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sneezer:

2006-04–07 22:33

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marcus2:

what time is it where you are right now?

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sneezer:

Fri Apr 7 23:16:33 MDT 2006

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marcus2:

so it hasnt been recompiled in 45 minutes

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sneezer:

guess not

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sneezer:

i'm recompiling right now

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sneezer:

I jsut redid it, and its got the same date

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marcus2:

then its probably not really getting reinstalled

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sneezer:

should I make distclean?

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marcus2:

are you doing 'make install' ?

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sneezer:

yep

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marcus2:

hm

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sneezer:

I checked the date, and its still the same

[05:22:15]

sneezer:

is there a make uninstall?

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kormoc:

rm file

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marcus2:

yeah

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marcus2:

i dunno what to tell you

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sneezer:

hrm...

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marcus2:

other than it cant hur tto do a distclean

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marcus2:

actually

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marcus2:

are you rerunning ./configure each time ?

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sneezer:

yep

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marcus2:

well

[05:23:44]

marcus2:

do a distclean

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marcus2:

and restart from scratch

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sneezer:

I'm going to let it go over night I think — so thanks for the help....

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marcus2:

hm?

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sneezer:

what is mythwelcome?

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rage-:

hey, when I install plugins for myth like mythvideo, mythdvd, mythmusic, etc.... where should I see them? is tehre something extra I should have to do to enable them?

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promacuser:

can i ask a question?

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promacuser:

anybody?

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kormoc:

sure you can always ask

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kormoc:

but you might not get an answer

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promacuser:

cool. i've been a happy mythtv user for a long time now

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kormoc:

yeah?

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promacuser:

but i feel like i might have screwed up my system

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promacuser:

it can't find the backend server. this has happened before, but i just can't fix it this time.

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promacuser:

i'm connected to a linksys router, and i have the correct IP address set in the setup program

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promacuser:

i can access the box through ssh, and i can see the files and run mysql to find the settings and everything

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kormoc:

you sure it is running on the backend machine?

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promacuser:

but the box can't find the backend for some reason...the backend running on the same machine. yes

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kormoc:

mythbackend is in the process list?

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promacuser:

hang on

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kormoc:

ps ax | grep mythbackend

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promacuser:

is that different than top?

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kormoc:

ps ax will just dump a list of all running processes

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promacuser:

well, i got this:

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kormoc:

it's a bit easier then top to make sure a program is running, esp if it is not using much cpu/memory at the time

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promacuser:

3446 ttyp0 S+ 0:00 grep mythbackend

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kormoc:

yeah, that's our grep, but no mythbackend by itself

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promacuser:

ah, i see

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kormoc:

so mythbackend is not running on the machine

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promacuser:

so the backend didn't start for some reason

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kormoc:

or it crashed

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promacuser:

hmm, still the error

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kormoc:

is it running now?

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promacuser:

no. how do i start it manually? just "mythbackend"?

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kormoc:

yeah

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promacuser:

does it just run in the background?

[05:47:07]

promacuser:

i get this:

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promacuser:

Starting up as the master server.

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promacuser:

2006-04–08 00:45:12.464 mythbackend version: 0.17.20050130–1 www.mythtv.org

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promacuser:

2006-04–08 00:45:12.465 Enabled verbose msgs : important general

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promacuser:

2006-04–08 00:45:14.461 Reschedule requested for id -1.

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promacuser:

2006-04–08 00:45:15.142 Scheduled 142 items in 0.7 = 0.03 match + 0.65 place

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promacuser:

2006-04–08 00:45:15.148 Recording starts soon, AUTO-Startup assumed

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promacuser:

and then it just kind of hangs there unless i hit ctrl-c

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kormoc:

that is it running, aye

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kormoc:

(in the future, please use something like http://pastebin.ca/ for multiline pastes)

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promacuser:

sorry, first time on ircle.

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kormoc:

so let it hang there, and try running the frontend and see if it connects and runs

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kormoc:

tis okay, we're mostly harmless :)

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promacuser:

hmm, no luck.

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promacuser:

you guys are awesome, actually

[05:49:12]

promacuser:

but the backend is running now

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promacuser:

for sure

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kormoc:

so is there any output from the connection attempt?

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promacuser:

well, in the GUI, just that mythtv can't find the backend. "is it running?"

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promacuser:

you know, that one

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kormoc:

yeah

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kormoc:

does the backend say anything tho?

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the-dead:

does someone has a hauppauge wintv go2 card?

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the-dead:

i don't get this card working here

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promacuser:

actually, i hit ctrl-z to send it to the background

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kormoc:

promacuser, heh, you shouldn't do that when you want the output :)

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promacuser:

good point

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promacuser:

hmm, now i can't kill it

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kormoc:

ooh?

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promacuser:

well, i told it to kill the process

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promacuser:

which in this case is 3545

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kormoc:

try killall mythbackend

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rage-:

hey, when I install plugins for myth like mythvideo, mythdvd, mythmusic, etc.... where should I see them? is tehre something extra I should have to do to enable them?

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promacuser:

still no

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kormoc:

promacuser, what's it say?

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the-dead:

killall -9

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the-dead:

killall -9 mythbackend

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kormoc:

rage-, it should just show up in the frontend on restart

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rage-:

oh, and has anyone used mythweb with 0.19? I'm getting a "Database setup error" on mine

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promacuser:

it says nothing

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promacuser:

ah, ok, there it goes

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kormoc:

rage-, did you edit .htaccess and set it up right, re the readme file?

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promacuser:

ok, now we're running the mythbackend again

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promacuser:

and i'm not touching ctrl ;)

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rage-:

kormoc, the .htaccess file appears to be set up right

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kormoc:

rage-, did you set the allow overrides in the apache config file?

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rage-:

hrm no I didn't

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kormoc:

well, that is a required step

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promacuser:

aha, there it is

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promacuser:

kormoc, you're a genius!

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kormoc:

ooh?

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promacuser:

yes

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promacuser:

but i am going to try a reboot to see if it clears itself up on its own

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kormoc:

glad to help :)

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promacuser:

otherwise, i'm going to have a problem every time i reboot

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kormoc:

yeah, that would suck

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promacuser:

also, do you know of any way to use mythweb to stream music from itunes?

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promacuser:

or an itunes library?

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kormoc:

there isn't any way right now

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the-dead:

does someone has a hauppauge wintv go2 card?

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promacuser:

shoot

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promacuser:

there was an alternative spoken of on a few websites

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promacuser:

but you have to move all of the music to the mythbox.

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rage-:

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rage-:

Options FollowSymLinks

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rage-:

AllowOverride All

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rage-:

</Directory>

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promacuser:

and then there's no room for videos ;)

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rage-:

does that look right? cuz that didn't seem to work :(

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kormoc:

promacuser, heh, nice

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kormoc:

rage-, that looks right, but where did you put it?

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rage-:

ribht below the / directory declaration

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promacuser:

also, kormoc, it's not loading on reboot

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kormoc:

I do beleive it needs to be in the vhost config

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promacuser:

is there a good place to look at this point?

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kormoc:

promacuser, what was the error?

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rage-:

oh?

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rage-:

hrm

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promacuser:

which?

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kormoc:

promacuser, the backend error

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promacuser:

oh, when mythtv starts up, and i go to TV and then watch recordings, it says "Unable to connect to the backend server — is it running. . ."etc etc

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promacuser:

and it appears that the backend is not running

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kormoc:

is there anything in /var/log/mythbackend.log?

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promacuser:

it's not even there

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kormoc:

perhaps /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log?

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kormoc:

actually

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promacuser:

well. . .

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kormoc:

find /var/log | grep mythbackend

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kormoc:

any results?

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promacuser:

this afternoon

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promacuser:

nothing

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kormoc:

kk

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kormoc:

so this afternoon?

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promacuser:

this afternoon i rm-ed everything from the log directory

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promacuser:

as in, rm -fr *

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kormoc:

it should just recreate it

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rage-:

bleh

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rage-:

I can't seem to get this.

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rage-:

0.18 set up for me nicely :|

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kormoc:

yeah, 0.19 is a but differnet, 0.20 will be even more different, but they're helping new modules get created

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promacuser:

that's what i figured

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kormoc:

and to ajax the pages up

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Gumby:

does anyone have a current mythlink (pretty) script?

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Gumby:

for .19

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kormoc:

it's not in contrib?

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kormoc:

http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . ythrename.pl

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Gumby:

ah, mythrename

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Gumby:

hehe

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Gumby:

they keep changin the damn name on me

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** kormoc ponders if anyone played with the stats module in mythweb svn **

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promacuser:

so, yeah, nothing in the logs

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kormoc:

promacuser, what distro?

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promacuser:

.19, i think, but how do i check?

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promacuser:

oh, wait. 0.17

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kormoc:

Distro usually refers to the linux distro, like, redhat, or fedora or what not

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** kormoc blinks **

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promacuser:

oh, right

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kormoc:

wow, you should really update, the changes are rather nice

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promacuser:

it's knoppmyth

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kormoc:

ahh

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kormoc:

I donno what knoppmyth did with 0.17

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kormoc:

so I really wouldn't know where to look next

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promacuser:

is it worth setting up a script to run the backend on startup?

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kormoc:

if I was you, I would just grab the latest knoppmyth and update it

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rage-:

man kormoc, I just can't get this to work :(

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promacuser:

do you know if there's a way to update without deleting all of my recordings?

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kormoc:

promacuser, I would imagine so, but I never used knoppmyth

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kormoc:

rage-, pastebin you vhost file?

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Gumby:

wow, this mythrename.pl script is WAY more compilcated than the old mythlink.sh

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rage-:

welll the only vhost related file I have is /etc/apache2/vhosts.d/00_default_vhost.conf

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rage-:

is that the one I need to be looking in?

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kormoc:

you are browsing to http://localhost/mythweb?

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rage-:

yep

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kormoc:

then yeah, that's the right place

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rage-:

I'm getting a database setup error

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rage-:

I thought vhosts just set up vhost.domain.com

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kormoc:

not at all

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kormoc:

vhost is just the way to allow multiple domains off of a single ip, but it's just easier to use the same system for single domain name systems as well

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kormoc:

no use having two code paths

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rage-:

so do I need <virtualhost> tags too?

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kormoc:

can't you just add it to the 00_default_vhost file?

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kormoc:

<Directory "/var/www/localhost/htdocs/mythweb"> AllowOverride All </Directory> should do it

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rage-:

doesn't seem like it

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rage-:

I'll try another way

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rage-:

I'll try another wayah ha!

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rage-:

er

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rage-:

ah ha!

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rage-:

progress

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rage-:

but uh

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kormoc:

yeah?

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rage-:

now... I'm getting incompatible protocol version

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rage-:

(I had path wrong to mythweb folder)

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rage-:

forgot that it had to be absolute in there

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kormoc:

well, what versions of protocols does it say

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rage-:

not relative to server root ;o

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kormoc:

heh, yeah

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rage-:

web = 26, backend = 29

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kormoc:

backend is svn?

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rage-:

atwe

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rage-:

aye

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kormoc:

you'll need the svn mythweb then

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rage-:

ah

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rage-:

I didn't think the protocol would change from 19 to svn heh

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kormoc:

you'll get my nifty (if I say so myself) stats module with svn mythweb anyway :)

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kormoc:

ooh, yeah, it changed like 3 days after release :P

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rage-:

mmm

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rage-:

got a quick checkout command handy?

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rage-:

searching for stuff on 26.4 dialup gets tedius :)

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kormoc:

yeah, one sec

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promacuser:

is there an easy command to check the disk use?

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kormoc:

promacuser, df -h

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promacuser:

thanks

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kormoc:

svn co http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/trunk/mythplugins/mythweb

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rage-:

muchos gracias

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promacuser:

also, i'm preparing to upgrade, but i can't remember where my important files are

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promacuser:

as in, the few that i tweaked to get things working the way they are

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rage-:

now, while I download this

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rage-:

perhaps you can help me with my last little task

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rage-:

I've installed some plugins, mythmusic, mythvideo, dvd...

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kormoc:

promacuser, that's one that's not easy to find out

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promacuser:

most importantly, i need to remember where the tweak was to get the TV working

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kormoc:

rage-, yeah?

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rage-:

yet I don't see them in my menu :|

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promacuser:

just that one

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kormoc:

promacuser, what tuner?

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promacuser:

PVR-250

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promacuser:

actually. ..

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kormoc:

rage-, you built them from svn?

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promacuser:

the video out is built in to the ASUS-Pundit, sorry

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kormoc:

promacuser, likely the new knoppmyth will just work fine

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kormoc:

ahh, that might not work

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promacuser:

i just remember that this was the trickiest part.

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rage-:

no :|

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rage-:

dont' tell me I gotta do that too

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rage-:

I downloaded the 0.19 plugins

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rage-:

well, emerged them

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kormoc:

yeah, when using svn, you need everything else to be svn as well

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rage-:

doh!

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rage-:

nazis!

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kormoc:

any reason you didn't just use the 0.19 ebuild?

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rage-:

*shrug*

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rage-:

I like up to date stuff

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kormoc:

heh, the ebuilds are from the 0.19 fixes branch, so they're rather upto date and stable

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rage-:

but mostly because of the fact that my myth would exit to menu after the end of each program

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rage-:

most of the time

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kormoc:

odd

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rage-:

oh they are?

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kormoc:

yeah

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rage-:

have you used the plugins much yourself?

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kormoc:

not really, just mythvideo

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promacuser:

fwiw, it's in XF86Config-4

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rage-:

how'd that work for you? like it/

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kormoc:

rage-, yeah, I use the Internal player, so it uses the same myth interface as recorded tv, and yeah, it's nice

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promacuser:

thanks a bunch for the help

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promacuser:

goodnigth guys

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kormoc:

no problems

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bagleabuse:

kormoc you said you had some experince with cygwin

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kormoc:

very little, a long time ago

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bagleabuse:

is there a command that will get new programs? yum apt etc?

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kormoc:

there is, I beleive it was in the windows start menu entry

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bagleabuse:

most definitely don't have that — I have cygwin bash shell, and cygwin bash shell

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kormoc:

huh

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kormoc:

bagleabuse, did you try rerunning the install file?

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bagleabuse:

i'm going to do that...

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kormoc:

I have an inkling that it detects it's already installed and lists packages via that

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bagleabuse:

probably

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bagleabuse:

what the crap — why don't I have my nick

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achew22:

weird

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achew22:

I just stuck my hand out and found a spare processor....

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jnunez:

What ever happen to MythStream (the one that allow you to view streams?)

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xris:

jnunez: I don't think it went anywhere...

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xris:

I don't think it was even an official plugin, was it?

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jnunez:

No I don't think so

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sphery:

jnunez: It's at http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~moongies/streamtuned.html

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SlicerDicer:

xris: hey

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sphery:

0.16_5 still compiles and works (even with current SVN)

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jnunez:

thanks sphery

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sphery:

np

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SlicerDicer:

I finally got linux kinda working on those boxes haha

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xris:

SlicerDicer: heya

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xris:

cool

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SlicerDicer-:

it took forever haha I had never broken down and actually learned how to flash them

[07:17:40]

SlicerDicer-:

after 2 days of pain I got it flashed with a Kernel Panic!!! :)

[07:17:41]

SlicerDicer-:

its a start

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SlicerDicer-:

although dsl linux fully works on it I am just using dsl to flash the internal drive

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SlicerDicer-:

removing microshit stuff off it hehe

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laga:

SlicerDicer-: what boxen are you talking about? ;)

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SlicerDicer-:

laga: a old internet appliance type box

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SlicerDicer-:

I got 2 of them

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SlicerDicer-:

http://home.comcast.net/~slicerdicer/compaqthingies.jpg

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SlicerDicer-:

laga its a idea I have to put mythtv in my kitchen running the mythrecipe heh

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laga:

hehe, nice :)

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laga:

oooh, that's spiffy

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eiggirC:

mythrecipe ? you're shitting me

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SlicerDicer-:

no

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SlicerDicer-:

I would not shit you your my favorite turd!

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SlicerDicer-:

;)

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SlicerDicer-:

laga: yeah I dont know if the box has enough ram or not

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eiggirC:

hhehe

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eiggirC:

SlicerDicer-: damn they're nice lookers

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SlicerDicer-:

but people have posted that they do use them to control myth recordings and stuff

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laga:

SlicerDicer-: awesome

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SlicerDicer-:

got them both for 10$ from a neighbor moving out hehe

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eiggirC:

SlicerDicer-: can I have one ?

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eiggirC:

please?

[07:42:13]

eiggirC:

I asked first :)

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SlicerDicer-:

I already said I was more than likely going to give one to xris if this works out right

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marcus2:

(EE) fglrx(0): [agp] unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_ENODEV"

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** marcus2 sighs **

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SlicerDicer-:

ohh yeah baby it just booted up

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xris:

SlicerDicer-: I have no idea what I'd do with it.

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coffee88:

xris: give it to me?

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eiggirC:

SlicerDicer-: I love weird and funky hardware

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eiggirC:

you should see my servers :)

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SlicerDicer-:

xris: same thing as I am :)

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promacuser:

hey again ppl

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rage_:

yo, is the guy that I was talking to about mythweb here? :x

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xris:

rage_: what problem are you having?

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rage_:

ah, I just solved it :)

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rage_:

I don't know how much you ask questions, but whenever I ask a question on IRC to try solving a problem, I think of the answer within 30 seconds so many times

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rage_:

it's freaky ;)

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xris:

:)

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hashbang:

sneezer: there's a mythfm plugin at http://mythextra.napsi.net/mythFM.html. I have it working with 0.19-fixes

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port7:

how does the output from tv_grab_uk_rt get into the database?

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port7:

whats the link?

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hashbang:

port7: mythfilldatabase runs it and does the SQL inserts.

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port7:

ok it calls it and i guess takes the output in via standard input

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port7:

?

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hashbang:

I guess.

[09:09:47]

hashbang:

I've not read the source, yet.

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port7:

ok

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port7:

np

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port7:

thanks

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hashbang:

actually, no, I think tv_grab_* dumps to a file in /tmp, which mythfilldatabase reads afterwards

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hashbang:

certainly, there's a file which gets larger as it runs

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port7:

k

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port7:

is there an easy way to confim if your mythtv install has lirc support?

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jchome:

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phatmonkey:

is an X server needed on a non-master backend so mythtv-setup can be run?

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dtm:

phatmonkey: X11 is network transparent so no, just X libs

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phatmonkey:

hmmm

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phatmonkey:

dtm: how do I set up the capture cards and things then?

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mchou:

phatmonkey: ssh X forwarding

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drdaz:

hey there.. I'm having trouble compiling myth on a fresh install of FC4.. I've installed all the prerequisites but when building, I get the follwing error:

[10:53:03]

drdaz:

"/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXvMCW"

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phatmonkey:

dtm: alright, I'll look into it, thanks

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mchou:

phatmonkey: from another machine that has X installed

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dtm:

phatmonkey: or do 'xhost +backendhostname' on your local display and then run it, if you don't have ssh X forwarding

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drdaz:

I've installed the latest nvidia drivers and added "include /etc/X11/XvMCConfig" to /etc/ld.so.conf

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mchou:

drdaz: you havent installed all ther prereqs

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drdaz:

which am I missing?

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drdaz:

I followed the guide in the wiki... actually copy/pasted the commands to install the prereqs, so..

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mchou:

drdaz: you have libXvMCW installed?

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mchou:

drdaz: what wiki you referring to?

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drdaz:

[root@el-mahico mythtv]# rpm -qa |grep libXvMCW

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drdaz:

libXvMCW-0.9.3–1.2.fc4

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drdaz:

mchou: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Installi . . . _Fedora_Core

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mchou:

drdaz: what's /etc/X11/XvMCConfig look like?

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drdaz:

libXvMCNVIDIA_dynamic.so.1

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drdaz:

:-S

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mchou:

drdaz: ok, should work then :)

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drdaz:

lol but it doesnt

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mchou:

drdaz: well, dont blame me :)

[11:00:23]

drdaz:

hehe I'm not :)

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drdaz:

just a tad frustrated since I really dont get it

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mchou:

I think I'm gonna d/l koroora 0.2 to check out kde3.5.2

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drdaz:

as u say.. it *should* work

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mchou:

my distro is quickly getting out of date

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mchou:

drdaz: you run ldconfig? :)

[11:02:39]

drdaz:

yep

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drdaz:

trying the windows solution now... rebooting

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mchou:

drdaz: well, beats me then

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mchou:

drdaz: is there a libXvMCW-devel?

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drdaz:

not sure actually

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drdaz:

or rather.. its not installed if thats what you're asking :)

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mchou:

drdaz: better check that out then

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drdaz:

aha... think I've got something

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drdaz:

just gonna try and build

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mchou:

I looks like nvidia may have fixed the opengl sync issue in myth

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drdaz:

ok... the new driver is now the recommended version to use for myth according t the wiki

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drdaz:

to*

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drdaz:

hopefully they did it right this time :)

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mchou:

drdaz: huh?? who posted that change?

[11:11:49]

drdaz:

no idea

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mchou:

drdaz: linky?

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drdaz:

look in the XvMC article

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drdaz:

2 secs

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drdaz:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/XvMC

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mchou:

it got changed by 'sam916'

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drdaz:

who he?

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mchou:

I dunno

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mchou:

that's the damn problem w/ wikis

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mchou:

you never know whether the source is trustworthy

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drdaz:

heh... its only really a problem if he's talking out of his ass

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** drdaz hopes he isnt **

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mchou:

well, I'm using it and it doesnt seem to cause excessive "prebuffer pause...."

[11:16:07]

mchou:

with gl vsnc turned on

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drdaz:

I've actually come to trust the wiki concept... I think the novelty of posting false info wears off quickly

[11:16:45]

mchou:

drdaz: no, that's not the issue

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** port7 reads /. **

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mchou:

drdaz: the issue is most ppl are clueless on the subjects they edit

[11:17:17]

drdaz:

true... there's also people who think they know whats right

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drdaz:

heh yeh

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drdaz:

faaak

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drdaz:

looks like installing the devel package might have done it

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drdaz:

yup yup

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drdaz:

ty

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drdaz:

mchou: you using xvmc with ogl-vsync?

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mchou:

drdaz: yup

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drdaz:

hmm nice

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drdaz:

the picture seems somewhat nicer on my CRT too.. using an interlaced modeline

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mchou:

drdaz: maybe :)

[11:31:01]

drdaz:

they fixed interlaced output they claim

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mchou:

yeah, I havent check that out at all

[11:31:41]

mchou:

what was wrong with interlaced output b4?

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drdaz:

it... didnt output interlaced afaik

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drdaz:

tbh I never realised

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drdaz:

its hard to tell when you have nothing to measure against

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mchou:

nice, koroora finished d/l

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drdaz:

koroora...

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mchou:

time to burn livecd....

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drdaz:

?

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** drdaz hits google **

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mchou:

drdaz: yeah, check it out, pretty cool

[11:33:27]

mchou:

opengl effects and texturing on the desktop

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drdaz:

oh my!

[11:33:40]

drdaz:

3d sex0r on a livecd!

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drdaz:

:-o

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mchou:

I tried the earlier one and it had some dumbass keybinds

[11:34:33]

mchou:

but other than that it's pretty slick

[11:34:56]

mchou:

there is a video of it "in action" somewheres on the net.

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drdaz:

heh as soon as my box is stable I'll set it off downloading that

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mchou:

The best feature so far is the cube desktop switch

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drdaz:

really been wanting to try that xgl stuff

[11:36:06]

drdaz:

heh yeah that looks cool

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drdaz:

nice twist on virtual desktops

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mchou:

the snapping windows are pretty useless, imho

[11:36:58]

mchou:

more annoying than anything else

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drdaz:

ok

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drdaz:

I kinda like the bouncing effects on the windows

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mchou:

and the alt-tab app switch is pretty cool too

[11:38:11]

mchou:

but best of all it offloads the CPU :)

[11:38:22]

mchou:

done burning

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drdaz:

:D go man go!

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mchou:

md5sum the cd

[11:40:11]

mchou:

but I'm only d/l koroora to check out kde3.5.2

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mchou:

some major fixes in there apparently

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drdaz:

ok

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drdaz:

so its nothing to do with the creamy 3d goodness... at all..

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drdaz:

?

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drdaz:

:)

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whyz:

hey.. i installed a dvb card (hauppauge hvr 1300) in my system (1ghz p3). I also have a pvr 350, which i use for tv-out. When watching dvb channels, it stutters, and the cpu goes up to ~50% use.. my bet is that the mpeg decoder of the pvr 350 isn't used. any ideas?

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mchou:

drdaz: nah, not really

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k-man:

hello

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k-man:

how can i navigate dvd menus in mplayer?

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mchou:

whyz: 50%? you still have plenty of headroom :)

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mchou:

whyz: kinda of puzzling why you would be dropping frames w/50% cpu

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whyz:

mchou, well, my aim is 1%, which really should be possible when i have a hardware mpeg decoder

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whyz:

mchou, exactly my thought..

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whyz:

odd

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mchou:

whyz: true that

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phatmonkey:

http://www.fmrib.ox.ac.uk/computing/docs/ssh.html

[11:43:31]

phatmonkey:

this seems to be trying to display the program on the remote X server

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mchou:

phatmonkey: wtf are you doing???

[11:43:49]

phatmonkey:

oh wait

[11:43:52]

phatmonkey:

I'm an idiot

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mchou:

phatmonkey: you dont need that junk

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phatmonkey:

what do I do then?

[11:44:39]

phatmonkey:

ssh -X <hostname> /usr/bin/X11/xterm

[11:44:48]

phatmonkey:

I run that on the backend, yes?

[11:44:54]

phatmonkey:

poitning to a machine with an X server

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mchou:

lol

[11:45:26]

mchou:

phatmonkey: what mythtv settings are you attempting?

[11:45:39]

mchou:

ok, md5sum checks out

[11:45:46]

phatmonkey:

I'm trying to run mythtv-setup on a backend without an X server

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whyz:

ssh -X user@box mythtv-setup

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whyz:

works like a charm here :)

[11:47:06]

mchou:

so from the machine with an xserver, run ssh -X <backend-hostname>

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mchou:

then run mythtv-setup once you are logged in

[11:47:38]

phatmonkey:

ah

[11:47:40]

phatmonkey:

gotcha

[11:48:13]

phatmonkey:

can't connect to X server

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whyz:

perhaps x11 forwarding is disabled

[11:48:28]

phatmonkey:

one sec, I''ll try it on another computer

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k-man:

whats the best player for playing DVDs in mythtv?

[11:48:47]

k-man:

mplayer seems to have limitations associated with it due to dvd menu navigation

[11:48:48]

phatmonkey:

probably doesn't work with the OS X X11.app

[11:49:26]

phatmonkey:

nope, can't connect to X server

[11:49:32]

phatmonkey:

where can I enable it?

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d64:

check sshd config

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phatmonkey:

X11Forwarding yes

[11:50:09]

phatmonkey:

hmmm

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d64:

try ssh -v and see if it gives you complaints

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whyz:

phatmonkey, try doing "xhost +" where you have X, then log in to the myth machine and do "export DISPLAY=xserver:0", then mythtv-setup

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d64:

-v in addition to all the other crap

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d64:

but probably it's due to the X stuff so whyz' suggestion is better

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phatmonkey:

works a treat, thanks

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phatmonkey:

odd the ssh forwarding isn't working

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whyz:

can anyone help me with dvb output? it shouldn't take 80% cpu just because i have a dvb card, right?

[12:10:48]

mchou:

well, that was lame

[12:11:07]

mchou:

livecd only boots into gnome :(

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whyz:

mchou, it only works with gnome, xfce or kde afaik

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mchou:

whyz: naw, I dont think the kororaa livecd can boot kde at all

[12:18:34]

mchou:

whyz: you must do an install to boot kde

[12:18:47]

mchou:

and I didnt want to deal w/ that

[12:18:52]

whyz:

i wish the e17 team would consider xgl..

[12:19:09]

whyz:

i've got xgl installed, but i don't use it.. don't like gnome or kde

[12:19:30]

mchou:

whyz: so what wm do you use?

[12:19:34]

whyz:

e17

[12:19:38]

mchou:

lol

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mchou:

sorry

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whyz:

:)

[12:19:45]

mchou:

missed that one

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drdaz:

e17... weren't they a lame boy-band at some point?

[12:26:44]

whyz:

hehe yeah, east 17

[12:27:09]

whyz:

it's actually enlightenment dr17, but e17 in short

[12:27:21]

drdaz:

yeah and then one of them started blabbing about how much he liked ectsasy... then renamed them e17

[12:27:31]

drdaz:

ahh ok.. no relation then :)

[12:27:57]

drdaz:

I so cant type these days

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whyz:

www.get-e.org if you want to check it out.. it's nice

[12:28:51]

mchou:

whyz: yeah, checked it out already

[12:29:11]

mchou:

whyz: I'm just too used to kde right now

[12:29:23]

drdaz:

hmm looks kinda sweet

[12:29:27]

mchou:

but I need to switch distros

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mchou:

mandriva is lameass

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whyz:

yeh, going from kde to e17 is probably not very easy.. kde is so.. convenient

[12:30:02]

mchou:

I've been a mandrake user since 5.1

[12:30:09]

mchou:

their first version

[12:30:28]

mchou:

now they are just lame

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whyz:

i'm actually thinking of giving kde a try, see if it has matured anything since the last time i ran it.. like 1998 :P

[12:31:14]

mchou:

whyz: by all acounts kde3.5.2 has matured well

[12:31:38]

whyz:

3.5 isn't marked as stable in gentoo yet unfortunately :(

[12:31:44]

mchou:

some serious issues with konqueror have supposedly been fixed

[12:31:58]

mchou:

like stacking order

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Kaeles:

howdy

[12:34:20]

Kaeles:

does myth tv support the hauppauge wintv-pci?

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mchou:

yup, it's v4l

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Kaeles:

nice, but i'll have to use software encoding correct?

[12:35:11]

mchou:

but I wouldnt recommend that unless you have a beefy cpu

[12:35:18]

Kaeles:

as i thought.

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Kaeles:

:P

[12:35:50]

mchou:

a 1.6Ghz ought to do nicely

[12:35:57]

Kaeles:

what about a dual 733?

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mchou:

nope

[12:36:20]

mchou:

dual is as good as Uni

[12:37:00]

Kaeles:

mmm

[12:37:14]

mchou:

encoding is just going to run on one thread

[12:37:15]

Kaeles:

durn, but it would help if i was trying to watch and encode at the same time?

[12:37:32]

mchou:

those other myth threads take virtually no cpu

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hashbang:

port7: $ ldd /usr/bin/mythfrontend | grep lirc

[12:37:50]

hashbang:

liblirc_client.so.0 => /usr/lib/liblirc_client.so.0 (0x03fa0000)

[12:38:05]

Kaeles:

so encoding is really the only cpu heavy thing?

[12:38:20]

mchou:

Kaeles: your issue is you dont have enough juice for encode

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mchou:

and barely enough for decode

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** Kaeles wishes he could afford a dualcore x64 amd. **

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mchou:

a 700Mhz is barely enough to decode dvd :)

[12:39:15]

mchou:

Kaeles: wth for?

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hashbang:

drdaz: you need the libXvMCW package from ATrpms. I do hope you've got a good reason to build from source, as the instructions at <http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php> work very well.

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mchou:

just get a single core a64

[12:39:35]

mchou:

cheap thse days

[12:39:40]

Kaeles:

yea i noticed

[12:39:51]

Kaeles:

mmm i just might do that.

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mchou:

Kaeles: and depending on your needs I'd probably just stick with agp

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mchou:

for myth purposes

[12:41:20]

mchou:

otherwise you run out of slots real quick

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Kaeles:

mmm you think if i got like a haupauge pvr i can run it on a less powerful machine?

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mchou:

vbox is apparently making a dual tuner atsc card

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mchou:

Kaeles: yeah, pvrx50 should work well with your duallie

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mchou:

I might even remove one proc

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Kaeles:

well, i have a single 500 atm for it, but i could get a dual 733 cheap

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mchou:

:)

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mchou:

Kaeles: what kind of forma factor is the proc?

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Kaeles:

the duallies?

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mchou:

is it slot?

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Kaeles:

slot1

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Kaeles:

yea

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mchou:

yeah

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Kaeles:

i have 2 933 xeon slot 2's as well

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mchou:

Kaeles: I have a 750 I'm not using

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mchou:

that should give ya enough juice

[12:44:44]

Kaeles:

well the xeons don't fit

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Kaeles:

im thinking about building a box around them though

[12:44:59]

mchou:

no, this is not xeon :)

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Kaeles:

you think though, just using the 500, if i get a good vid card and a pvrx50 i would be alright?

[12:45:57]

mchou:

for backend only it would be fine

[12:46:12]

mchou:

frontend it would be marginal

[12:46:36]

Kaeles:

does the mythtv frontend take alot of juice?

[12:46:38]

whyz:

i really need help here guys.. is there some way to debug why my dvb viewing stutters in myth?

[12:46:47]

mchou:

even for backend it might not be beefy enough if you want commercial flagging

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whyz:

Kaeles, menues and stuff take some

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Kaeles:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Hauppauge-WinTV-PVR-500-D . . . cmdZViewItem

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Kaeles:

:D

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mchou:

Kaeles: that's a rip

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Kaeles:

o.O

[12:48:16]

mchou:

$100 starting bit is ridiculous

[12:48:21]

mchou:

bid*

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mchou:

for that price you might as well buy from newegg

[12:48:58]

mchou:

or buy.com

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whyz:

if you really want to a low end computer, buy a pvr-350

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whyz:

it has built-in decoder aswell

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mchou:

screw pvr350

[12:49:47]

mchou:

it's way too much hassle

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whyz:

lol

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whyz:

i set that up in a few hours

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Kaeles:

most agp vid cards have hardware decoders?

[12:50:16]

Kaeles:

or am i retarded.

[12:50:18]

whyz:

Kaeles, no, none have

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mchou:

whyz: then why are you here asking for help w/350? :)

[12:50:22]

whyz:

not "none"

[12:50:32]

whyz:

mchou, i'm not..

[12:50:45]

whyz:

i'm asking for help using hvr1300 in conjunction with pvr350

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mchou:

lol

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whyz:

the pvr 350 has worked like a charm for a year now

[12:51:01]

mchou:

same dealio :)

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hashbang:

whyz: try disabling/enabling XvMC/Xv, OpenGL Vsync

[12:51:46]

whyz:

hashbang, how? mythtv-setup?

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Kaeles:

why is the pvr 500 cheaper than the pvr350?

[12:52:06]

whyz:

Kaeles, because pvr350 has the decoder

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hashbang:

whyz: setup->tv->playback

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mchou:

cause 500 has no decoder

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Kaeles:

ooh kk

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hashbang:

whyz: also, if you're using nVidia's drivers, recommend upgrade to 8756

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whyz:

hashbang, thanks.. i don't, i use only the pvr350. t

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mchou:

hashbang: lol

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Kaeles:

also, would it be a bad idea to have it store all the encoded stuff on my NFS server?

[12:55:45]

Kaeles:

its running a dual channel raid 5 scsi 160

[12:56:02]

mchou:

Kaeles: nfs is good idea

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Kaeles:

so, if i have all my stuff stored on my NFS server its not gonna be too slow for playback or anything?

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mchou:

nope

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Kaeles:

cool

[12:57:00]

Kaeles:

well, it should be ok, im using it for my cluster too.

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mchou:

just dont swap to nfs :)

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Kaeles:

lol

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Kaeles:

can you use a pvr to encode dvd to mpeg or divx?

[12:58:28]

mchou:

nah, there are better tools for that

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mchou:

you dont want dvd to go thru analog stage

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Kaeles:

like the gordian knot stuff?

[12:59:22]

mchou:

Kaeles: mplayer does it just fine

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mchou:

with libavcodec

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Kaeles_:

stupid internet.

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Kaeles_:

bah, some bastard is portscanning me.

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Jelte:

hiya guys, this might be the wrong channel but I'm trying to setup mini-myth. For this, I need to first of all set up my own DHCP server (rather than using the one in my router). One thing I'm not sure about: if I disable DHCP on my router, then what IP will my router have? and what IP will the server on which I'm installing DHCP have?

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Kaeles_:

your router will still use 192.168.0.1

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Kaeles_:

unless you tell it to pick a diff one.

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Jelte:

Kaeles_ ah (it's using 192.168.1.1 now )

[13:03:46]

Kaeles_:

well, same thing

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hashbang:

Kaeles_: that's model-specific

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Kaeles_:

:P

[13:04:09]

Kaeles_:

having the dhcp server enabled or not shouldnt change the router ip though

[13:04:11]

Kaeles_:

is what i meant.

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hashbang:

...and it should get its external IP from your ISP.

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hashbang:

(unless that's configured statically)

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Jelte:

ok, thats the router sorted then... so what about the DHCP server? right now that is a server with dhcp client, but what IP will it have if I turn it into a dhcp server?

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hashbang:

Jelte: it won't. You'll need to configure it statically.

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Jelte:

hashbang: thats what i thought, so I just set it up to take a static IP right? i mean that is not something that I put in the dhcpd.conf ?

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Kaeles_:

right

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Jelte:

the server is running ubuntu at the moment, so it's probably best to also purge the dhcp client package on there?

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hashbang:

Jelte: you might be able to get its own DHCP server to configure it on the basis of its MAC address, but I wouldn't bother.

[13:06:52]

Jelte:

cool

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mchou:

Jelte: I dont get it. why dont you use the router for this?

[13:07:28]

Jelte:

mchou: , because I have to configure the dhcp server to tell my mini-itx where to find the TFTP server

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mchou:

that's what the router is for

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Kaeles_:

he's setting up a netboot system

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Jelte:

and the dhcp server on the router is rather limitted in the options i can set on it,

[13:07:52]

Jelte:

yep

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hashbang:

mchou: some router DHCP servers are very stupid.

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mchou:

Jelte: what kind of crappy router you got that wont let you do this?

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Kaeles_:

i do the same for my cluste jette

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Jelte:

US robotics

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mchou:

lol. They make routers?

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Jelte:

hehe

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** Kaeles_ doesn't have a router, instead has a motherboard nailed to the wall running his firewall/dchp server **

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mchou:

I thought they made modems :)

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Jelte:

well my router has the modem built in ;-)

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Kaeles_:

they would have gone out of business mchou

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Kaeles_:

:P

[13:09:07]

Kaeles_:

who has modems anymore?

[13:09:08]

Kaeles_:

lol

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mchou:

Kaeles_: umm, I thought they got bought by 3com

[13:09:37]

mchou:

unless 3com divested again

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Kaeles_:

mmm no clue, sorries.

[13:10:27]

mchou:

that's why I use a openwrt compatible router

[13:11:23]

mchou:

hackable routers are the only way to go.

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Kaeles_:

why am i getting portscanned by freenode?

[13:13:23]

mchou:

cause they do that

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Kaeles_:

wtf.

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Kaeles_:

lol

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RaYmAn-Bx:

It's rather common for irc networks to do that. They kill of anyone running open proxies and similar

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havoc:

yeah

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havoc:

helps control attacks

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Kaeles_:

oh ok

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Kaeles_:

cool

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Kaeles_:

i was just kinda weirded out

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mchou:

I saw mac minis being sold at costco

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mchou:

that thing is rather cute

[13:19:16]

mchou:

too bad it doesnt have enough juice

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laga:

mchou: for what?

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drdaz:

mchou: you can mod it and stick a Core Duo in there :p

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drdaz:

there should be enough clout for most apps then

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Jelte:

ok so i must be missing something, but my server has got (static) 192.168.1.51 as its address. in the dhcpd.conf i have defined a subnet 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0

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Jelte:

but the dhcpd wont start, since it claims there is no subnet declaration for eth0 (192.168.1.51)

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Kaeles_:

does the eth0 have a subnet for it?

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** Jelte is probably being thick here **

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Kaeles_:

do ifconfig on it

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Jelte:

ah..

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Jelte:

arse... i've just been a bit stupid... bringing the interface down on a headless server via vnc is not too bright eh? ;-)

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Kaeles_:

lol

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Kaeles_:

i've done it

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Kaeles_:

except i was sshing into the box from another state

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Jelte:

now where did i have that monitor...

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Jelte:

ok, back in business... so what should the netmask be for eth0 ?

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Jelte:

its 255.255.255.0 shouldnt that work?

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mmead:

Aneurysm9: you get things going?

[14:32:45]

mmead:

Aneurysm9: my 19-fixes build with MMX worked great

[14:33:13]

mmead:

anyone happen to know how to get 5.1 analog output?

[14:33:42]

drdaz:

anybody got a good way to make the patch on this page usable?:

[14:33:43]

drdaz:

http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/linux-dvb/20 . . . /007452.html

[14:33:57]

drdaz:

I think the line-wraps screw things up..

[14:34:25]

drdaz:

really cba doing it myself :p

[14:34:47]

drdaz:

did it last week manually and had an HD failure..

[14:34:48]

mmead:

rejoin the lines with vi :)

[14:34:50]

drdaz:

grrr

[14:34:53]

drdaz:

heh

[14:35:18]

drdaz:

that's not an automagical method :(

[14:35:26]

mmead:

view source doesn't help much, since it was wrapped before the htmlization did a <pre>...</pre>

[14:36:03]

drdaz:

looked for a clean copy all over the place too :-|

[14:36:56]

mmead:

vi join :)

[14:37:29]

mmead:

it looks like the only 5.1 supported is ac3 passthrough

[14:37:39]

mmead:

I think I have found a project.

[14:37:48]

drdaz:

oO vi will do some of the work for me?

[14:38:21]

drdaz:

not used vi much.. I'm a joe guy :p

[14:38:23]

mmead:

oh

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mmead:

"J" in vi joins the current line with the next, placing a space between the join point

[14:38:49]

mmead:

it also puts the cursor on that space

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drdaz:

ahh

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mmead:

so for lines that are truncated, use vi to "J"oin them

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mmead:

then delete the space (assuming it should be deleted) – this is where your intelligence has to come into it :)

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drdaz:

hehe

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drdaz:

thats where it failed last time.. not knowing c is a disadvantage for this task

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mmead:

so

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sphing:

GreyFoxx: what was the switch i needed when i insterted the ati_remote

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mmead:

dprintk(verbose, DST_CA_INFO, 1, "

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mmead:

=========================================================================

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mmead:

=========================");

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mmead:

in my mind that line would get joined together withOUT spaces

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drdaz:

lol yeh I caught that one

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drdaz:

:)

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mmead:

hashbang: how did you get vsync working with the new nvidia driver?

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Cromz:

sphing, you got the ati_remote? the rwII?

[14:42:25]

sphing:

no its the niveus remote using GreyFoxx's driver

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Cromz:

oh

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drdaz:

woohoo! found a copy of the patched files on my windoze desktop :D

[14:43:42]

Cromz:

heh damn.. thought maybe there was a trick to get the ati working with myth. I got everything were it looks right. but myth ( frontend only machine ) doesn't see it :/ irw does.

[14:47:50]

Cromz:

duh.. I knew I was doing something dumb.. lol in .mythtv dir it's lircrc not .lircrc

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drdaz:

yikes... I got myself a 300GB WD sata drive to replace the disk that conked out earlier this week.. hddtemp reports it idling @ 42C :-|

[14:53:31]

meushi:

ouch

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drdaz:

with some luck its just wrong

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meushi:

don't want to imagine the temp at full load

[14:54:23]

drdaz:

it hit 48 after 2+ hours of constant copying last night

[14:54:37]

drdaz:

which actually isnt too too bad..

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drdaz:

but for an idling disk.. 42 sucks

[14:57:29]

hashbang:

drdaz: mine has peaked at 40C, but is generally around 31–32C

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hashbang:

That's a Seagate

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hashbang:

and in the UK

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drdaz:

ok

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drdaz:

this is Denmark.. so its pretty cold here in general

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hashbang:

drdaz: yeah, probably about the same, unless you've got your heating cranked. ;-)

[14:59:37]

Juski:

afternoon

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drdaz:

summer will probably bring some mighty toasty temps

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drdaz:

lo there

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Juski:

I hope summer brings some toasty temps. been friggin freezin so far ;-)

[15:00:55]

sphing:

has there been a bug report about the upcoming recordings?

[15:01:31]

Juski:

sphing: go to svn.mythtv.org & take a look

[15:01:53]

Juski:

and/or search the developers' mailing list

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drdaz:

heh hopefully my new HD will handle the toasting... really dont wanna have to do this reinstall malarkey again any time soon

[15:02:22]

Juski:

drdaz: don't let it get any hotter than 50'C

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mmead:

sphing: what do you mean?

[15:03:04]

drdaz:

Juski: I'll try not to :) This new one idles at 42C :-/

[15:03:23]

drdaz:

or thats what hddtemp is reporting at least

[15:03:30]

Juski:

ouch

[15:03:37]

Juski:

hddtemp is unlikely to lie too

[15:03:44]

Juski:

sphing: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/195319

[15:03:48]

mmead:

sphing: are you talking about myth losing the connection to the databases?

[15:03:49]

Juski:

is that the one?

[15:04:28]

mmead:

Juski: I had that problem

[15:04:56]

Juski:

there's a problem with mythbackend's connection to mysql5 timing out

[15:04:57]

mmead:

Juski: I did an update to 19-fixes across all my myth boxes last night and the db connection survived the mythfilldatabase run this morning

[15:05:23]

sphing:

Juski: whats happening is I go to manage recordings -> upcoming recordings and theres only like 3 things listed

[15:05:26]

Juski:

or rather – there _was_ a problem ;)

[15:05:33]

mmead:

Juski: "MySQL server has gone away"

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mmead:

sphing's problem sounds different

[15:05:44]

drdaz:

check the airport tbh

[15:05:46]

sphing:

but i know there are more shows, so i go to upcoming recordings on a show and it shows up there

[15:05:49]

Juski:

sphing: do a post to the user's ML then

[15:06:14]

sphing:

yea.. i'll have to a little later though

[15:06:38]

Juski:

you're more likely to get a response there – the majority of people on the users & dev lists refer to this as the 'lusers' channel

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drdaz:

oh noez!

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Juski:

good thing folks who know what they're doing hang out here eh ;-)

[15:07:12]

Juski:

and sometimes, me :)

[15:07:15]

drdaz:

:p

[15:08:09]

mmead:

Juski: got a report from hashbang last night that the new nvidia driver out works with vsync

[15:08:16]

mmead:

Juski: didn't work for me though – got glitchy playback

[15:08:29]

Juski:

7676 is just fine for me

[15:08:35]

mmead:

.19?

[15:08:43]

Juski:

yup

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hashbang:

mmead: yeah, looking closely at it, I think vsync might still be a bit glitchy.

[15:08:53]

mmead:

I have tried that, get glitchy playback

[15:08:56]

mmead:

hashbang: thanks

[15:09:04]

hashbang:

mmead: I need to do some more rigorous testing.

[15:09:15]

mmead:

hashbang: I would like to get back to vsync, since its timing is perfect

[15:09:16]

hashbang:

mmead: it's a hell of a lot better than 8178/8183, though. :-)

[15:09:38]

Juski:

time to head back & strip some more paint

[15:09:39]

mmead:

hashbang: I use a PJ @ 800x600/60hz, so when the rtc is perfect and the video isn't, I get little "flickers"

[15:09:53]

mmead:

hashbang: and ntsc video isn't perfect :)

[15:10:06]

mmead:

hashbang: 29.97, 59.94, etc

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sphing:

juski..

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sphing:

i restarted the backend and all the recordings popped up again

[15:13:47]

sphing:

Juski: also.. the ethtool thing didnt work.. how do you keep your epia board from locking up on reboot?

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promacuser:

hey everybody, i have a configuration problem i wanted to throw out there

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mmead:

promacuser: what's the issue?

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mmead:

promacuser: are you running an intel mac binary?

[15:38:21]

promacuser:

i upgraded to R5B7 last night through knoppmyth

[15:38:39]

promacuser:

nope, it's an intel chip, but a separate box

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mmead:

promacuser: doh, I know very little about knoppmyth

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mmead:

promacuser: if it's myth specific I may know

[15:39:33]

promacuser:

well, it's a small issue that's actually linux based

[15:39:35]

promacuser:

;)

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promacuser:

because i can't ssh into the box from my mac, and i'm wondering if i need to change the ssh settings somewhere

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mmead:

promacuser: is the box running sshd?

[15:42:14]

promacuser:

it's just been so long since i've set up anything on the box, i forgot how i got it working

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promacuser:

let me check

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promacuser:

yes

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mmead:

from the mac, telnet knoppmyth 22

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mmead:

what happens?

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Juski:

sphing: I power cycle it. I can live without WOL. try a different kernel to see if that helps

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promacuser:

unable to connect to host

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promacuser:

ssh times out

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mmead:

promacuser: can you ping the host?

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promacuser:

aha. no.

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mmead:

promacuser: it sounds like either it's not on the network properly (ethernet driver or config issue), or its firewall is blocking packets

[15:57:47]

mmead:

promacuser: will be somewhat idle for a bit

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mmead:

promacuser: if you mmead: me I'll see it later

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promacuser:

OK

[15:58:09]

promacuser:

mmead: like this?

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promacuser:

mmead: i think the ethernet configuration is messed up, because i don't think the box is finding itself through the router, but only through localhost

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psofa:

has there been an improvement over 0.19 at dvb-s tuning time?is there something new about it in svn?

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mmead:

promacuser: yeah, so that's where you need to start...

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mmead:

promacuser: not knowing anything about knoppmyth, I won't be much further help

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promacuser:

mmead: do you know where the ethernet configuration is located? or is it different for knoppix?

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mythuser:

Hi, we are on daylight saving in UK GMT+1. What do I need to set my XMLTV offset to?

[16:24:30]

mythuser:

+0100 or – 0100

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mythuser:

it's not obvious

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RaYmAn-Bx:

the xmltv listings aren't corrected automatically?

[16:25:11]

RaYmAn-Bx:

I mean, from where it grabs them

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mythuser:

no. I set something to recored yesterday and it recorded too early

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mythuser:

so, I guess +1

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mythuser:

umm, I'll check in the newspaper

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hashbang:

MythLogBot: works fine here. TZ is set to GMT0BST, hardware clock runs on UTC.

[16:26:06]

hashbang:

mythuser, even.

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mythuser:

I'll make sure m timezone is bristish summer time.,

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mythuser:

lol

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mythuser:

british summer time.

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mythuser:

lost the ability to type there

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promacuser:

does mythgame work with SNES games in fullscreen now?

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port7:

should the lircrd file be ~/.lircrd or ~/.mythtv/lircrd?

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eidolon:

hey is there a way to make the mythtv (0.19) 'import cd' function rip to mp3, not to ogg?

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hashbang:

port7: myth reads .mythtv/lircrc, everything else uses ~/.lircrc

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hashbang:

port7: suggest symlinking, for less confusion.

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port7:

k

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port7:

will give that a go

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port7:

does mythtv automatically look for .mythtv/lircrd or do you have to tell it?

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hashbang:

port7: automatically.

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Cromz:

port7, but it's lircrc not lircrd ;)

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port7:

cheers

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port7:

heh

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port7:

ok

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hashbang:

port7: suggest /another/ symlink, for less confusion. :-)

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port7:

now comes the fun bit of working out what buttons generate what codes!

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Cromz:

port7, heh I'm trying to find the codes generated by the ati remote. the 5000024400 model. :/ some keys listed like c are wrong.

[16:45:29]

port7:

i have the hauppage remote and all the example lircd.conf's i have tried don't work. I must have a one-off!

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Cromz:

port7, check the button names in the lircd.conf and the lircrc file make sure they are exactly the same ;)

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** port7 is glad his wife is paitent **

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RaYmAn-Bx:

It doesn't take that long to generate a config though :P Unless your remote has a hell of a lot of buttons =P

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Cromz:

RaYmAn-Bx, if the irrecord bombs it does..

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RaYmAn-Bx:

that doesn't count :P

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port7:

i am gonna press buttons and tail the output of /var/log/syslog

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Cromz:

lol

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promacuser:

hey all, i just upgraded to R5B7 of knoppmyth and now i can't get any video to happen

[16:51:07]

promacuser:

check that

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promacuser:

my recordings will play, but i can't watch live TV

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Kleptophobiac:

is the svn server down/

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Kleptophobiac:

?

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promacuser:

how do i check?

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Kleptophobiac:

try going to svn.mythtv.org

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promacuser:

it appears so

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Kleptophobiac:

looks like the main site is down too

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port7:

doh not good

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drdaz:

heh was just about to ask the same thing

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port7:

when you change the lircd.conf do you just restart lircd? or mythfrontend or both?

[16:56:10]

Kleptophobiac:

depends

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port7:

or non....

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Kleptophobiac:

you have to reload lircd

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Kleptophobiac:

and if you've redefined labels, then you have to edit lircrc and restart mythfe

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port7:

k

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Kleptophobiac:

looks like mythtv.org is back up

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Kleptophobiac:

hurray!

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laga:

promacuser: uh, the svn server is likely not related to your problem :)

[16:57:33]

promacuser:

laga: yeah, i figured that out

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port7:

maybe someone just bounced it

[16:57:38]

promacuser:

didn't know what svn was at first

[16:57:48]

promacuser:

i do have some info, though

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laga:

promacuser: good. you know, you can't take things for granted all the time. (especially with that nick.. :P)

[16:58:13]

promacuser:

Could not open '/dev/video0/ to probe output. . .'

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promacuser:

you don't like my nickname? ;)

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** Kleptophobiac is migrating from svn-head to 19-fixes **

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promacuser:

bah probe its *inputs*

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Juski:

hey hey laga :) how goes it? fancy emailing me some german text so I can do the deutsche video? ;-)

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promacuser:

any ideas here?

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laga:

Juski: hehe ;) it's going fine, but i'm afraid i can't mail you the text tonight, i've gotta run soon (first bbq of the year). how are you?

[17:00:52]

Juski:

sore hands :( stripping paint today

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Juski:

1st BBQ of the year eh? must be nice!

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laga:

Juski: heh. same for me. i was fixing the paint of the car today. bloody stones :/

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Kleptophobiac:

methylene chloride.... mmmm

[17:01:45]

Juski:

no – hot air... that Nitromors stuff is ducking nasty!

[17:01:46]

laga:

Juski: :) it is. i'm gonna get helluva wasted, so don't expect me to send you the text tomorrow either ;)

[17:01:51]

Juski:

lol

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Juski:

well if I get the text in good time, you get the vid ;-)

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laga:

Juski: maybe on monday :)

[17:02:15]

Juski:

okees

[17:02:26]

Juski:

right – back to the grindstone

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laga:

have fun ;)

[17:02:36]

Juski:

have fun later :-D

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Kleptophobiac:

when i strip paint I use a hot air gun and peel off the big chunks, and then use CH3Cl to do the stubborn pieces

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Juski:

(don't set fire to anything)

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laga:

Juski: if i did, i wouldn't care anymore anyways

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promacuser:

anybody?

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laga:

promacuser: well, how did you do that upgrade? a clean install?

[17:07:21]

promacuser:

it was an auto upgrade in knoppmyth

[17:07:37]

laga:

it's possible that it messed up your drivers.

[17:07:40]

laga:

check dmesg first

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promacuser:

it loos like it

[17:07:45]

promacuser:

what's dmesg?

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laga:

dmesg is used to examine or control the kernel ring buffer.

[17:08:20]

laga:

man dmesg ;)

[17:08:28]

laga:

just open a terminal and type 'dmesg'

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promacuser:

if you don't mind me asking

[17:08:52]

promacuser:

what is the kernel ring buffer?

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laga:

just read the manpage :)

[17:09:13]

laga:

(i actually meant to paste a different part of it, sorry)

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promacuser:

so, it just stores the boot information?

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promacuser:

and am i looking for something that looks like ivtv perhaps?

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jayare:

I keep seeing this in my mythtv backendlog-file: 2006-04–08 19:10:38.625 1006 @ Sat Apr 8 18:39:11 2006 in use by player on mediacenter

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jayare:

does anyone know what "player" is ment.....I have not started any frontend

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laga:

promacuser: probably, you didn't tell us what capture card you use. (baaad!)

[17:17:16]

promacuser:

PVR-250

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promacuser:

and i use built in TV out for the output

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laga:

the pvr 250 does not have a tv-out, you're probably talking about the 350

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promacuser:

no, no, i meant tv out on my ASUS-pundit

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laga:

oh, ok :)

[17:18:52]

promacuser:

just so you didn't think i was crazy ;)

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laga:

hehe, same setup as me then ;)

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promacuser:

nice

[17:19:07]

laga:

we're talking about the pundit ab-p2600, right?

[17:19:31]

port7:

ok getting the following in syslog when i press buttons on my pvr-350 remote

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promacuser:

yeah. did you have trouble getting the PVR in there?

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port7:

localhost kernel: [4884206.999000] i2c IR (Hauppauge): unknown key: key=0x16 raw=0x3796 down=0

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Kleptophobiac:

confound the lack of linux based console emulators

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laga:

jayare: maybe it's commflagging/transconding?

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port7:

can i fix that by editing lirc.conf

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port7:

or have i other problems?

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promacuser:

so yeah, i think my drivers are messed up, because i can't find /dev/video0

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promacuser:

it's just not there anymore

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promacuser:

and this shows up about six times

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promacuser:

ivtv: Unknown parameter `debug'

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promacuser:

tuner: Unknown parameter `type'

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promacuser:

any ideas?

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promacuser:

does the setup program create these files?

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promacuser:

where is everybody?

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promacuser:

anyone still here to help?

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promacuser:

can somebody help me with my pvr250?

[18:13:03]

mishehu:

you're MUCH better off asking a specific question.

[18:13:13]

mishehu:

than just saying "can somebody help me with a pv250"

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promacuser:

well, i've been asking specific questions for an hour or so

[18:13:37]

promacuser:

but nobody's been responding

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promacuser:

here is the question

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promacuser:

I'm getting an error "Could not open '/dev/video' to probe its inputs"

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mishehu:

what kernel?

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mishehu:

what kernel areb you using?

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promacuser:

knoppix

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mishehu:

is this knoppmyth?

[18:17:12]

promacuser:

yes

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mishehu:

:-/ never used it, so I don't know at all how it handles this stuff.

[18:18:09]

promacuser:

yeah, most people haven't. it's making this hard to find answers

[18:18:28]

mishehu:

is that error when you try to run myth or when you try to modprobe?

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promacuser:

what is modprobe? i get the error in mythtv-setup

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mishehu:

ok, try running lsmod on the command line to see if the ivtv modules have been inserted into the kernel.

[18:20:00]

mishehu:

at least I think they're built as modules.

[18:20:22]

promacuser:

and i'm just looking for ivtv?

[18:20:28]

promacuser:

after i run lsmod/

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mishehu:

that's definitely a start yes

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promacuser:

looks like they're not there

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mishehu:

there are other modules along with ivtv, but they usually autoload with ivtv

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mishehu:

try `modprobe ivtv` and see what happens

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promacuser:

FATAL: Error inserting tuner (/lib/modules/2.6.15-chw-2/kernel/drivers/media/video/tuner.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)

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mishehu:

type `dmesg` and see what it spits out toward the bottom

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promacuser:

tuner: Unknown parameter `type'

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promacuser:

ivtv: Unknown parameter `debug'

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mishehu:

ok, that was from the modules.

[18:22:22]

mishehu:

I don't know if they got a bad build on that or what

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kayelem:

aha... I had something similar when I accidentally had a kernel and modules that didn't match..

[18:22:34]

mishehu:

or you got a bad dl of it

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mishehu:

gtg, lunchtim

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promacuser:

can i download the modules again?

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Samson:

what does this mean im dmesg ? tuner 1–0061: tuner type not set

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promacuser:

or seperately?

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promacuser:

separately

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kayelem:

I'm not familiar with the distro, and I build my own kernels, so "not sure"...

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promacuser:

ok, well, if i were to download ivtv, could i use apt-get?

[18:24:21]

kayelem:

On my box the solution was to rebuild kernel and modules and make sure the kernel I was booting was the same one I'd just built...

[18:25:20]

kayelem:

<shrug> sorry... I'm one of those masochists who uses Slackware and compiles everything...

[18:25:23]

promacuser:

i'm sorry, i'm just not very good at this

[18:25:50]

kayelem:

me and package management don't seem to get along

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jnunez:

Where does 0.19 pull the menu XML from?

[18:26:59]

jnunez:

I'm making changes to /usr/shar/mythtv/mainmenu.xml and it's not appearing

[18:27:05]

promacuser:

bah, i just want this to work

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kayelem:

promacuser – but it sounds rather like your drivers weren't compiled against the kernel you're running, How you fix this gets a bit distro-specific.

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promacuser:

that's weird, because i just installed a knoppmyth upgrade

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promacuser:

which is supposed to do everything for you

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RaYmAn-Bx:

that's what you get for using things that do everything for you =P If something goes wrong you are lost

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kayelem:

hmm... sounds like that upgrade broke something...

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promacuser:

yeah, well you should have seen me trying to compile everything from source

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promacuser:

*that's* when i was really lost

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jnunez:

Yup. I was using knoppmyth on one of my boxes and I upgraded and lost all the recordings

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promacuser:

hm

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promacuser:

maybe i should try the upgrade again?

[18:30:04]

kayelem:

I'm running one on Gentoo; but I'm going to switch to Slackware as I'm more familiar with it than anything.

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Samson:

im having a problem with FC5 and mythtv, using a PVR-150 , I get no video just static

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kayelem:

promacuser, did the upgrade replace the kernel, and did you reboot the box?

[18:30:42]

promacuser:

yes

[18:30:49]

promacuser:

kayelem: yes

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kayelem:

hmm...

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kayelem:

well, I'm intending to play with knoppmyth at some point; I'd probably be more use *after* I've "peered under the hood", unfortunately.

[18:32:24]

kayelem:

Is there a knoppmyth discussion forum where you can get some distro-specific help?

[18:32:29]

xris:

Samson: ivtv version?

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promacuser:

i've tried to find all that i could, but there's not enough specific information on this problem

[18:33:15]

kayelem:

promacuser, it sounds like your video/TV card drivers aren't loading, possibly as they don't match your kernel – that's more a distro thing than a mythtv thing.

[18:33:31]

Samson:

how do I find out what version I am running, I've been following along on the mythology web site step by step

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xris:

Samson: rpm -q ivtv

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Samson:

ivtv-0.6.1–109.rhfc5.at

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jnunez:

kayelem: try http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/

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promacuser:

i don't think ivtv is even installed on my box

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promacuser:

which is weird

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jnunez:

promacuser: IVTV is needed for the PVR-150

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promacuser:

is there a way to tell?

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xris:

Samson: ok, that's a usable version

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jnunez:

My PVR-150 is so f'ked. It no longer changes channels

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promacuser:

and i have a pvr250

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xris:

Samson: does it work if you just try to grab the raw stream from the device?

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jnunez:

when recording but it will change on live tv

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promacuser:

but it's not even able to use live tv

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Samson:

i was looking a program to do that with, xawtv is what i came up with but wouldnt compile correctly

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xris:

Samson: nope.. basically: cat /dev/video0 > /tmp/foo.mpg then wait a few seconds and hit control-c. then just view the mpg with any player of your choice (xine, mplayer, etc)

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drdaz:

no sound from my pvr150... anybody got a good idea why?

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Samson:

xris: ok let me try that

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drdaz:

this is a driver problem... its the same from myth and everything else

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xris:

drdaz: missing audio firmware?

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drdaz:

thats quite possible

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drdaz:

heh

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drdaz:

should I be able to see thats the case in the logs?

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Juski:

dmesg will tell you

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drdaz:

ok

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Rsx024:

How come when i schedule a recording on a digital channel comming from my settop it doesnt record but if i watch live tv and put myth on the digital channel then push record manually it records?

[18:45:33]

promacuser:

does mythgame work with SNES in fullscreen at this point?

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drdaz:

Juski: you say dmesg will tell me... how will it tell me?

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xris:

promacuser: it's just xmame, so that probably depends on the version of xmame

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Anduin:

drdaz: firmware blah load failed or something close

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sneezer:

I recently ran into someone referring to "mythwelcome" — is that stable?

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drdaz:

Anduin: heh thx

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laurens_:

hi

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drdaz:

this is likely it then:

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drdaz:

cx25840 2–0044: unable to open firmware v4l-cx25840.fw

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drdaz:

:p

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laurens_:

hi

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laurens_:

erm, I'm not quite at mythtv yet

[19:08:21]

laurens_:

im just trying to get some image out of my pvr 350

[19:08:25]

laurens_:

can you help me with that too?

[19:08:39]

laurens_:

judging by the kernel messages, ivtv has loaded correctly

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laurens_:

and has found all the necessary firmware etc

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laurens_:

i can set my channel using ivtv-tune

[19:09:09]

laurens_:

but all i ever get out of /dev/video0 is black

[19:09:35]

laurens_:

any idea on troubleshooting?

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Anduin:

laurens_: Which input is connected?

[19:10:34]

laurens_:

on the back of the card itself?

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Anduin:

laurens_: Yes.

[19:10:42]

laurens_:

there's only one female coax plug iirc

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laurens_:

let me check

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laurens_:

there is only one that i could get it to fit in, and it says "TV"

[19:11:36]

laurens_:

so that should be ok i guess

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laurens_:

Is it normal that I get a lot of /dev/videon devices?

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Anduin:

laurens_: Yes.

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laurens_:

ok

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laurens_:

but video0 is what I want

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laurens_:

what do you want me to check?

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Anduin:

laurens_: I wanted to just make sure that the tuner input was really what you wanted.

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laurens_:

yeah :)

[19:14:35]

laurens_:

it is

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laurens_:

ivtv0: Initialized WinTV PVR 350, card #0

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laurens_:

if i see that i'm pretty much in the clear for the kernel part right?

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Anduin:

laurens_: Should be, unless you see something in the several lines above that looks bad.

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laurens_:

npe looks clear

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laurens_:

The strange thing is

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laurens_:

if I would get snow from video0 at least i'd know its grabbing something

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laurens_:

it's just all black

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Anduin:

laurens_: can you pastebin the results of an ivtvctl -a

[19:19:27]

laurens_:

mythtv@lichtbak:~$ ivtvctl -P

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laurens_:

ioctl VIDIOC_G_INPUT ok

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laurens_:

Video input = 0

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laurens_:

that looks ok

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laurens_:

ah sorry

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laurens_:

was trying smething myself :)

[19:19:45]

laurens_:

pastebinning, hang on

[19:21:23]

laurens_:

wait

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laurens_:

input 4 is tuner 0

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Anduin:

switch and check

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laurens_:

http://pastebin.com/648295

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Anduin:

laurens_: Yeah, switch to input 4

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corpix:

hi

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laurens_:

did that

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laurens_:

still black

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corpix:

why does mythtv-svn use include/linux/input.h ?

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Anduin:

laurens_: -P confirms the switch?

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laurens_:

mythtv@lichtbak:~$ ivtvctl -P | grep 4 | wc -l

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laurens_:

1

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laurens_:

apparently.

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purplefrog:

Nuts, I just upgraded mysql and now I have to recompile qt :(

[19:31:00]

laurens_:

so, can anyone help me with my pvr 350?

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StringBlade:

can anyone help me figure out mythtranscode/mythDVD? My import starts, but after about 4 mins on Perfect quality it stops abruptly and I can't find any evidence that anything was created on file. thx.

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Anduin:

laurens_: I'd create a test mpg and switch through all inputs then check it.

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Anduin:

StringBlade: If it gets a read failure that happens (if you run mtd -n or look at the log you should see the error).

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StringBlade:

Anduin: Myth log or MTD log?

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Anduin:

StringBlade: mtd log

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StringBlade:

Anduin, default location for that? I'm having trouble locating it

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Cromz:

StringBlade, /var/lib/mythdvd/temp check to see if mythdvd put the .vob file for the perfect rip there.

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Anduin:

StringBlade: The dvd rip temp directory

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StringBlade:

Cromz, I changed the temp location to a different directory with a lot of space

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StringBlade:

Anduin, no log then

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Cromz:

StringBlade, that's where the log with be.

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Anduin:

StringBlade: mtd -n then

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StringBlade:

dvdprobe.o: You have a title on your dvd in a format myth doesn't understand.

[19:38:54]

StringBlade:

dvdprobe.o: Either that, or you haven't installed the dvdinput table.

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StringBlade:

I guess I'm missing something?

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laurens_:

Anduin: cat /dev/video0 returns nothing

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laurens_:

it used to return gibberish which i assume was mpeg3

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laurens_:

erm

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laurens_:

2

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StringBlade:

laurens_, does it return nothing for each different input?

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Anduin:

laurens_: Yeah, you should be able to cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg then in another screen start running through the inputs.

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Anduin:

StringBlade: That should only matter if you were going to transcode.

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laurens_:

what does svideo normally give if nothing is connected to it?

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laurens_:

i only have my tv cable going to i

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laurens_:

t

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Samson:

Anduin: maybe you can help me im getting just static from my pvr-150 when i do cat /dev/video0

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StringBlade:

Anduin, full output: http://pastebin.ca/48662

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StringBlade:

Samson, what input do you have selected on the ivtvctl and what are you using as input (tuner, svideo)?

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Anduin:

StringBlade: Yeah, it is the 704 that is throwing things off, though like I said, it doesn't matter as you are doing Perfect (no transcoding)

[19:43:49]

StringBlade:

Anduin, it would appear to matter since it dies

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StringBlade:

though this was not a run

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StringBlade:

just what it grabbed when I started mtd

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StringBlade:

I can kick off an import and see if it outputs some other message

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StringBlade:

be about 5 mins

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Anduin:

StringBlade: Yes, that is what I want.

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Samson:

Anduin: how do i set the input with ivtvctl

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Anduin:

Samson: -pNUMBER

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j2:

Evening all!

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StringBlade:

j2, Hello

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Samson:

Anduin: ok ive tried 0 and 1 , 0 gives me static 1 gives me all black no audio

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Samson:

Anduin: pastebin of ivtvctl -a if u need it http://pastebin.ca/48663

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eiggirC:

static is good

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Anduin:

Samson: If your intention is to record from the tuner, static is good, now adjust the channel.

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j2:

I have been over the archives, and i am confused, or rather i can't make my mind up. I am looking for a USB IR-transmitter that does not envolve recompiling Lirc when using a Jarod/FC2-box"

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Samson:

Anduin: ok i did ivtc-tune -c5 still static

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corpix:

j2, why not use lirc_serial, i built one myself with just spending 5€

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j2:

corpix: Well, because the precompiled module doesnt seem to support that profile?

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Anduin:

Samson: Were there any messages when loading ivtv (like it couldn't load the tuner or something equally bad)?

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j2:

corpix.... annnnd there is no RS232 on the box ;)

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corpix:

j2, oh really ? i've never seen such a box, except for notebooks ;)

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Samson:

Anduin: i see a few tuner 1–0061: tuner type not set

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j2:

corpix: make that "available 232"

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corpix:

anyways, i like these 2.4ghz usb remote devices, not supported by lirc yet, but much more range

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j2:

corpix: yeah.. i do love the RF-support in the Harmony 895, but i can't really get MythTV to talk to that ;)

[19:53:36]

corpix:

j2, hmm harmony 895 ?

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StringBlade:

Anduin, it says it's a write problem (either space or permissions) but it's writing in a location I didn't expect, so I'll play with it some more. Thanks for the help!

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Anduin:

Samson: That is probably bad, can you paste the relevant section from dmesg

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corpix:

j2, maybe it works as a joypad or something ?

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Samson:

Anduin: http://pastebin.ca/48665

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j2:

corpix: No, as in it is a universal remote transmitter. But it has RF-support with 8-way repeater units.

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drdaz:

anybody else find that ChromaKeyOSD causes some jittering?

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j2:

corpix: You know anything about the stuff from irtrans.de?

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corpix:

j2, not really

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laurens_:

ok

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laurens_:

so i've catted /dev/video0 while changing inputs

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laurens_:

at 0 and 5 it makes some noise for about half a second, then stops

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corpix:

j2, i improved the range for my serial lirc device + use a 2.4 ghz joypad – thats all

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laurens_:

at all the others (1,2,3,4,6,7,8,9) it doesnt do anything

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Anduin:

Samson: I'd try overriding the tuner type manually.

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Samson:

Anduin: how do i do that?

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Anduin:

Samson: Look in dmesg for where tveeprom outputs stuff, look for the type (this is assuming it is right)

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Samson:

ah i think i just figured it out, modprobe ivtv tuner=57,57

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Samson:

i get good video and audio now

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Anduin:

laurens_: I don't know what else to do at this point, black screens are usually bad inputs, I would have expected one of the inputs you tried to have static.

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Anduin:

Samson: You have two?

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Samson:

oops no, just one

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Samson:

Ok now, that i can manually get video, mythtv still spitting out static

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Anduin:

Samson: If you tune it while myth is using it does it work?

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[R]:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Log_File_Rotation with 0.19... i want Script #3?

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Samson:

Anduin: yes that works

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Anduin:

Samson: Did you select the right frequency table in mythtv-setup?

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Samson:

i have it on default let me try us-cable

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Anduin:

[R]: Why 3 over the others?

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[R]:

it has the kill command that the page says 0.19 uses

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Samson:

Anduin: ok neither default or us-cable work both give me static

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[R]:

you know what would be extreme

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[R]:

if myth would log to sys log

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Anduin:

Samson: Sure you didn't lock it to a channel you don't get?

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Samson:

yes, and also anything above 60 doesnt seem to work when tuning manually

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Samson:

mythtvsetup wont let me pick tuner0 just tuner1 not sure if thats related

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Anduin:

Samson: You are running the latest ivtv driver?

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Samson:

0.-6.1–109

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Anduin:

Samson: Yeah, you should only have a Tuner 1 in your list.

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Samson:

ok

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laurens_:

anduin apparently the black screen means im grabbing the wrong input, even though i've went through them all

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Anduin:

laurens_: That is usually what it means, do you have it working now?

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laurens_:

nope.

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laurens_:

I've tried pretty much every input

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laurens_:

im sending a mail

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laurens_:

to their user list.

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Samson:

Anduin: what else could i be missing that mythtv is just getting static

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laurens_:

wait

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laurens_:

Anduin: do you have it running?

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laurens_:

i think it might be my firmware

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laurens_:

didnt find it on the site specified in their wiki, so i had to settle for a more current version

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laurens_:

perhaps i will steal it from the driver cd

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laurens_:

brb

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Anduin:

Samson: It could still be a slightly wrong tuner type.

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Samson:

hmm maybe i should try the ivtv-0.4.4 or something wrong with the firmware

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Anduin:

Samson: If you are using 0.6 it is because you must (wunning 2.6.16)

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corpix:

hmm, 0.19 records dvb radio, but "no audio signal"

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Samson:

ah i just read that backwards on the ivtv page.

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corpix:

does anyone know a working svn revision which can handle that

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corpix:

?

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Anduin:

Samson: Try a tuner type of 50

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Juski:

corpix: what do you mean?

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corpix:

Juski, i recorded from a dvd-radio channel

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corpix:

i wanted to play the mpg

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corpix:

but --> no audio

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Juski:

what did you try playing it with?

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adarof:

Hi # ! I have to config questions to mythfrontend, might be someone could give me a hint ?

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Juski:

oh wait a sec.. 0.19 won't work with dvb radio unless you patch the source

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corpix:

Juski, mplayer

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corpix:

Juski, Audio: no sound

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adarof:

1st I would like to not have shown the 1:DVBInput while watching liveTV since I only have one TV card ... so this makes no sence

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corpix:

Juski, worked with a svn revision , but i cant remember it

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Juski:

corpix: new svn versions record dvb radio just fine AFAIK

[20:45:08]

corpix:

Juski, the latest and -~20 revisions wont compile

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Juski:

the first patch for it came out as 0.19 was being readied for release, so it didn't make it in

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adarof:

2nd while switching channels the signal nn% and so on are shown. I would like to see EPGdesciption instead

[20:46:27]

nchip:

anyone else having frequent backend crashing with VDB+EIT on?

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corpix:

Juski, i have no problem with using an svn, but it simply doesnt compile

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corpix:

(the latest ones)

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Juski:

adarof: read the manual. that should tell you what you need to know. failing that look in the setup pages (in mythfrontend) for tv settings. I think the one you want is in the 'general' page

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nchip:

0.19

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Juski:

nchip: EIT is screwed in 0.19. use xmltv until 0.19.1 comes out or else use SVN

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Juski:

some people should read the mailing lists

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corpix:

Juski, i get errors like : interactivetv.cpp:24: error: 'MHLogAll' was not declared in this scope

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corpix:

with > 9530 revisions

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nchip:

Juski: I tried searching.. didn't find anything

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corpix:

Juski, actually i am not sure which rev. would compile but i dont like to compiled revisions backwards in a for loop until one succeedes ;)

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corpix:

s/compiled/compile

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Juski:

corpix: understandable

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adarof:

Juski, I read everthing I found ... I played all settings, which came near that ... but ... havent found this 2 :-/

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Juski:

corpix: looks like >9530 is complaining about the mheg stuff

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Juski:

adarof: they're in there somewhere

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Juski:

something like 'use browse mode when changing channel' and 'show tuner input in live tv' or similar

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corpix:

anyone here with a working svn ?

[20:52:09]

corpix:

*compilable

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Juski:

corpix: try seeing if there's a --disable-mheg or something

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Juski:

in the ./configure options

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Juski:

;-)

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corpix:

Juski, i've checked that, no ;)

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Juski:

could it just be you're missing the mheg libs?

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corpix:

Juski, with that system, i compiled alot svns

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corpix:

didnt change anything, except for the revisions

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adarof:

Juski, the 1st you mentioned I activated, which leads to browse-with-description-and-switch-on-RETURN. on Switching the Signalstrength is shown again. Thats ... nearly perfekt.

[20:54:32]

Juski:

yeh but interactive (mheg) came in a few revisions agao IIRC

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Juski:

anyway – I'm off to watch a film & beer myself silly ;)

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corpix:

i could --enable-mheg

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corpix:

Juski, sec, mheg should be disabled ?

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Qwell[]:

Hi, is there a frontend for windows, besides winmyth?

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corpix:

Qwell[], i tried to compile it using cygwin, but no luck

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corpix:

i gave it up ;)

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corpix:

atm, i bet this was a good decision

[20:57:43]

Tobbe:

Hi, I'm trying to use nuvexport, but I get this error: No valid recordings found!

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Tobbe:

what could be wrong?

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Qwell[]:

corpix: So, pretty much no such thing, eh? heh

[20:58:06]

Tobbe:

I do have recordings in myth...

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Qwell[]:

winmyth didn't work at all...and it can only do recordings – no live tv

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Tobbe:

using MythWeb I can see the recordings

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Tobbe:

I also get this error: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Unknown column 'basename' in 'field list' at /usr/local/share/nuvexport/mythtv/recordings.pm line 67.

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corpix:

Tobbe, i'd try repairing mythconverg

[21:00:17]

corpix:

not sure tho

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Tobbe:

How do I do that?

[21:01:11]

corpix:

mysqlcheck

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corpix:

wiki

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Tobbe:

ok, thanks :)

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adarof:

anyway – THX ... i cant find, but i could live with this :-) Some day I will find them ;-)

[21:08:59]

xris:

sweet. finally overcame the 2G file limit in apache.

[21:09:15]

sneezer:

is there a way to tell mythtv to delete the livetv cache when the show is over, or after 2 shows delete it?

[21:09:23]

xris:

sneezer: why bother?

[21:09:32]

xris:

it does it automatically when disk space is needed

[21:09:33]

sneezer:

because I'm getting the files via samba

[21:10:09]

sneezer:

and the files in the samba folder are many many many and its hard to sort through

[21:10:27]

Tobbe:

I ran mysqlcheck -r -u mythtv -pmythtv mythconverg and everything said OK, and I'm still getting the same errors from nuvexport

[21:11:32]

sneezer:

xris, is there a way to rename files to a more friendly name?

[21:12:53]

xris:

sneezer: mythrename.pl in contrib

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sneezer:

is that on the svn server?

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corpix:

it is

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corpix:

in 0.19 too

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sneezer:

if you run that will it update the database to reflect the change?

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corpix:

yes

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sneezer:

nifty — but I'm still not seeing it, what folder specificly would it be in?

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corpix:

you recordings folder

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sneezer:

mythrename.pl is in my recording folder?

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corpix:

err contrib

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sneezer:

ohh

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sneezer:

nifty... thankyou

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sneezer:

should I run that as a cron job or a userjob?

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sneezer:

xris, is this supposed to be a userjob or a cronjob?

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xris:

sneezer: whatever you want it to be

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sneezer:

so if I run it without any switches as a userjob will it rename all recordings?

[21:20:43]

xris:

yeah

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xris:

in a few moments, mythweb svn download links will automatically have nice filenames, too

[21:21:02]

sneezer:

I don't understand...

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sneezer:

they aren't bad names now?

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xris:

nice as in "title – subtitle.mpg"

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sneezer:

ooh!

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sneezer:

so thats a feature for .20?

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xris:

will be, yes

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sneezer:

good work

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xris:

also gets around the 2G filesize limit in apache, which has been driving people nuts for ages.

[21:22:12]

xris:

I finally broke down and included some cgi stuff in mythweb to get around it.

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sneezer:

what did you have to do? load the file and send it out (in binary form) with some cgi?

[21:22:50]

xris:

yeah

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xris:

perl has no problem with large files.. apache and php do.

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xris:

sometimes

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sneezer:

I have some code that does similar things, but it reencodes my pictures for my gallery

[21:23:51]

sneezer:

it lets me upload them full size then people can choose what resolution to view at... its nifty stuff

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xris:

sneezer: mythweb will get that soon.. going to write my own version of mythstreamtv.. and include flash video right on the page, too.

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sneezer:

exelent! if you would like any help, I'm not too bad at php...

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sneezer:

ooh — my other irc session finaly died!

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laurens_:

is anyone here using a pvr 350?

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sphery:

xris, haven't tried it, yet, but does the new MythWeb download stuff handle utf8tolocal decoding, too?

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sphery:

I'm currently upgrading, so I guess I can test, soon...

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bagleabuse:

xris when can we view the wonderment of your mythstreamtv?

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xris:

sphery: no clue. let me know. :)

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xris:

bagleabuse: no clue.

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bagleabuse:

damn...

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xris:

the basics are there now, though

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bagleabuse:

what do you plan on using to reencode it?

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bagleabuse:

what would be the best location for my mythrename.pl thing, so that all users can get to it?

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Anduin:

laurens_: I use one (though only for capture)

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xris:

bagleabuse: /usr/local/bin

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bagleabuse:

if I did that would the command for userjob just be mythrename.pl

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xris:

as for reencoding, probably ffmpeg, since it's the most common piece out there, and I know it supports flash video and other common formats

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sphery:

xris, will do... Should be able to test it tonight.

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sphery:

Thanks, though, I really think handling the downloads in the app is better, anyway.

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sphery:

:)

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laurens_:

Anduin: ivtvctl -L

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xris:

bagleabuse: that'd probably work.. I'd personally hard-code the path, though, just to be safe

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laurens_:

| laurens_

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Anduin:

laurens_: Output = 0

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RaYmAn-Bx:

hmm, do you need to do anything particular to be able to burn recordings for a hauppage card to 'real' DVD? (PVR-500) Nero seems to want to transcode to be able to do it..

[21:36:18]

bagleabuse:

xris, is there any series of switches that would make symlinks of only the non-livetv recordings and give them good names?

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laurens_:

Anduin: how about -P

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Anduin:

laurens_: Video input = 0 but that is really the tuner on my card.

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sphery:

bagleabuse: LiveTV recordings are skipped by default

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bagleabuse:

I found a bug thats not a hard fix at all, in Utilities/Setup|Setup|TV Settings|General the buttons at the bottom are drawn half on the screen and half off — where should I report it?

[21:39:32]

bagleabuse:

sphier is there a way to have it symlink to another folder?

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sphery:

bagleabuse: not so easy to fix

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sphery:

it's a problem of your TV's overscanning.

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sphery:

Not a Myth problem per se.

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bagleabuse:

no... its on all my compiled versions

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sphery:

However, Myth may have crammed a bit too much.

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bagleabuse:

even the one running on a VGA monitor

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sphery:

onto the screen

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bagleabuse:

and all the other oens work

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bagleabuse:

check it out

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bagleabuse:

its from .19 fixes

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Anduin:

bagleabuse: SVN looks fine here.

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sphery:

bagleabuse: I'm using this to create my links for recordings http://misc.thirdcontact.com/mythlink.sh

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bagleabuse:

okay — then tehy fixed it

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bagleabuse:

sphery mythrename.pl is a rewritten version of that

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sphery:

no

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sphery:

That's a script I use to call mythrename.pl and create 5 directories of links

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sphery:

Each sorted differently

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bagleabuse:

alright...

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bagleabuse:

sphery your code is erroring... is that the one you really run?

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bagleabuse:

./mythname.pl: line 44: syntax error near unexpected token `do'

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bagleabuse:

./mythname.pl: line 44: `$last_index`; do'

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sphery:

It's not a perl script

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bagleabuse:

ohh...

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sphery:

It's a bash shell script

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sphery:

mythlink.sh calls mythrename.pl

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bagleabuse:

my bad

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sphery:

just easier to create a single cron job to kick off the shell script (that I can edit as desired) instead of having 5 cron jobs (that have to be edited with crontab -e)

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sphery:

basically, you'll need to edit the values of the env var's at the top

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sphery:

VIEWS_PATH is location under which directories are created

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bagleabuse:

I did...

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sphery:

OK.

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sphery:

Just wasn't sure if the idea was clear from the script.

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bagleabuse:

just misnamed it...

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sphery:

Cool.

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sphery:

Hope it's helpful.

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sphery:

Although it kind of obscures the arguments I'm using, it should help you see how to create a command to do what you want.

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bagleabuse:

its a nifty script... but I'm still getting the line 44 thing so I tried root@MythTV:/usr/local/bin# sh ./mythlink.sh

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bagleabuse:

still no luck...

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sphery:

which version of bash?

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sphery:

Maybe I have a 3.0 only thing in there

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bagleabuse:

version 3.00.16

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sphery:

OK.

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sphery:

Something's different...

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sphery:

One sec.

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sphery:

Line 44 is in the middle of the FORMATS array...

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sphery:

?

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bagleabuse:

one sec

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bagleabuse:

is it possible to have spaces in the names?

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sphery:

Should look like this: http://pastebin.com/648528

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bagleabuse:

its cool — it fixed itself

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bagleabuse:

actualy I recoppied it from your stie

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bagleabuse:

with a wget

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sphery:

If you want spaces, set UNDERSCORES=''

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sphery:

(two single quotes)

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sphery:

on line 55

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bagleabuse:

okay, this is strange when I run any ocmmand now it says "echo -ne "33]0;${USER}@${HOSTNAME}: ${PWD/$HOME/~}07"

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bagleabuse:

which looks like its regexp (or similar) for the line that says root@MythTV:/usr/local/bin#

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sphery:

type 'reset' (no quotes) in the shell

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bagleabuse:

same thing

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sphery:

Hmmm.

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sphery:

The string you see is the terminal's PROMPT_COMMAND

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sphery:

try:

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sphery:

export PROMPT_COMMAND='echo -ne "33]0;${USER}@${HOSTNAME}: ${PWD}07"'

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sphery:

maybe

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bagleabuse:

i just closed it and reopened it and it corrected itself

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sphery:

That works

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sphery:

:)

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bagleabuse:

I like software that fixes itself

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bagleabuse:

now if only the kitchen sink could take a lesson....

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Tobbe:

I'm trying to use nuvexport, but I get this error: No valid recordings found! I also get this error: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Unknown column 'basename' in 'field list' at /usr/local/share/nuvexport/mythtv/recordings.pm line 67.

[22:06:38]

Tobbe:

Any ideas?

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Tobbe:

I can see the recordings in MythWeb

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sphery:

your nuvexport is for 0.19, but your Myth is 0.18.x

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bagleabuse:

sphery is %H%i Hour min?

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sphery:

mythrename.pl --help

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Tobbe:

sphery: is there anything I can do about it?

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sphery:

%H = 24-hour hour, with leading zero

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sphery:

%i = minutes

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sphery:

Tobbe: get the nuvexport for 0.18

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sphery:

From Chris's site...

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bagleabuse:

ooh... smexy

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bagleabuse:

its the .2 ones

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bagleabuse:

get the latest .2

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sphery:

So, Tobbe, I think you can find it at http://forevermore.net/files/nuvexport/archive/

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xris:

SlicerDicer-: ok, what do I do to get this firewire connection working?

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xris:

ahh, thank jarod for getting all of this hooked up

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robthebob:

how do i set mythtv up so that i can get a particular recording transcoded at a quality of my choice?

[22:12:52]

xris:

robthebob: set up the transcode profile you want, and then press X while watching it

[22:13:14]

robthebob:

how do you set the recording to use a particular profile?

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bagleabuse:

sphery if your run that program 2 times will it clear the folder and remake the links or leave them there but not duplicate them?

[22:13:22]

Tobbe:

sphery, bagleabuse, thanks, got the file :)

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robthebob:

i cant see how to shift it off the default (autodetect)

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bagleabuse:

Tobbe have fun!

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xris:

hahaha.. helps if I actually compile mythtv with firewire support

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sphery:

bagleabuse: mythrename.pl deletes all the links

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sphery:

mythlink.sh doesn't delete the directory names

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bagleabuse:

so it cleans the folders?

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sphery:

Each individual directory is cleaned by mythrename.pl before links are created

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bagleabuse:

sweet!

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sphery:

So when you delete recordings, you don't have orphaned links

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sphery:

But, if you decide to stop using a format with mythlink.sh, you'll need to delete the directory where you previously made the links for it.

[22:15:48]

robthebob:

any thoughts xris?

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xris:

robthebob: for transcoding? there's only one profile for each source filetype

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bagleabuse:

sphery I changed my file a little for what I thought would be cleaner names, what wrong with this? '%C – %T – %Y-%m-%d – %H:%i%a – %eH:%ei%ea – %S'

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xris:

at least, that I know of

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xris:

bagleabuse: it's REALLY friggin' long? heh

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robthebob:

so what if i want to sometimes do it losslessly, sometimes to high quality mpeg4 and sometimes to lower quality mpeg4?

[22:16:59]

Tobbe:

can I just overwrite the current install of nuvexport 0.3, or do I have to do anything before installing again?

[22:17:06]

bagleabuse:

no, its way too short...

[22:17:26]

bagleabuse:

xris the files come out as "News.2.mpg"

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xris:

Tobbe: just overwrite

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Tobbe:

ok :)

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xris:

bagleabuse: then --format isn't working right

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bagleabuse:

tobe do a make install

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sphery:

Actually, it may be the mythlink.sh script causing the problem.

[22:18:21]

bagleabuse:

i'm going to put it on pastebin

[22:18:29]

sphery:

Hold on...

[22:18:45]

bagleabuse:

http://pastebin.com/648548

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robthebob:

should i send this to the myth-users list as a question?

[22:19:18]

xris:

sphery: mythlink is gone

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sphery:

It's a script I am using (and he's playing with) to call mythrename.pl and make several views

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sphery:

I didn't write it to handle spaces...

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sphery:

(I don't use spaces in filenames)

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xris:

ahhh

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xris:

just enclose your shell variables in quotes spares usually work fine

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xris:

s/spares/spaces/

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sphery:

They are in quotes.

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sphery:

I think it's the IFS for the shell

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bagleabuse:

sphery do you have any ideas on how to fix it?

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bagleabuse:

xris: http://pastebin.com/648548

[22:26:43]

bagleabuse:

thats the script as it is now

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sphery:

Yeah.

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sphery:

One sec.

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bagleabuse:

xris, if I replace the ' (single) with " (doubles) would it fix it?

[22:30:59]

xris:

can't get the page to load at the moment... compile is eating up my cpu.

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bagleabuse:

xris — what are you compiling?

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xris:

myth

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bagleabuse:

why?

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xris:

bagleabuse: ${FORMATS[$directory]} -> "${FORMATS[$directory]}"

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bagleabuse:

what is the change?

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xris:

bagleabuse: because I have a new firewire hd box and I didn't compile myth with firewire support.

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bagleabuse:

ohh

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xris:

the change is what I just told you

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bagleabuse:

lets see

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bagleabuse:

I changed --format ${FORMATS[$directory]} to --format $"{FORMATS[$directory]}" now I have really interesting named files like "[FORMATS[3]}.2"

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sphery:

http://pastebin.com/648569

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sphery:

I'm posting a fixed script on my website.

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sphery:

One sec.

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Tobbe:

this'll be interesting, exporting 2h recordings to XviD with --transcode and multipass. I think it'll take a while :)

[22:34:49]

sphery:

It's the IFS line that's important.

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sphery:

Should be able to just add that.

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sphery:

I added some stuff for LiveTV, though, too.

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xris:

Tobbe: yeah, just a bit

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Tobbe:

;)

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bagleabuse:

Tobbe see you next week

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Tobbe:

lol

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Tobbe:

I was hoping to install .19 tomorrow, let's hope it's done by then...

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xris:

Tobbe: oh. .3 doesn't work so well without .19

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bagleabuse:

it doesn't work at all without .19

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xris:

bagleabuse: the initial .3 release did, sort of

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Tobbe:

I'm using .2 now

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bagleabuse:

I was unable to even start it with .18

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sphery:

bagleabuse: http://misc.thirdcontact.com/mythlink.sh

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sphery:

You'll have to change your env vars, again, though.

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bagleabuse:

meh... I can do that

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bagleabuse:

sphery you should add your script to the svn

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bagleabuse:

the contrib folder would be a great place for it

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sphery:

It just calls mythrename.pl

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bagleabuse:

yeah, but its very nice....

[22:43:46]

sphery:

xris and I talked about it before (after I moved some functionality from the version of mythlink.sh I had updated from the Dale Gass's (?) original to mythrename.pl). We decided it wasn't really that necessary.

[22:43:52]

sphery:

See http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/278

[22:44:11]

sphery:

(The patch--at the very bottom--changed the mythlink.sh to basically what you're executing.)

[22:44:29]

drdaz:

heh... fresh install of FC4 and using xvmc and oglvsync myth segfaults when starting livetv

[22:44:29]

sphery:

We decided it wasn't really necessary since most people will want different format strings, etc.

[22:44:41]

sphery:

But, thanks for the compliment on the script. :D

[22:44:41]

xris:

sphery: could someday make --format a multi-param or something... do --dir name=format kind of thing

[22:44:52]

xris:

and just add it to mythrename

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drdaz:

latest nvidia drivers btw

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sphery:

That would work.

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sphery:

Only reason I use the script is so I can have a single cron job and to make editing formats easier (easier than crontab -e)

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drdaz:

hmm I think I've found a bug

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sphery:

Putting multi-dir/multi-format in mythrename would fix reason 1, but not reason 2.

[22:46:39]

sphery:

And, we might run up against command-line length limits. :)

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xris:

cool. firewire works like a charm

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drdaz:

using ChromakeyOSD, XvMC and oglvsync, when opening liveTV with the "Open Program Guide when starting LiveTV" option myth segfaults.

[22:47:47]

sphery:

congrats, xris

[22:48:02]

drdaz:

this happened with 7676 too

[22:48:03]

Tobbe:

hmm, I get 0 fps and it still is at frame 0 :(

[22:48:13]

sphery:

drdaz: did NVIDIA fix the OpenGL vsync takes 100% CPU bug in the new driver?

[22:48:30]

drdaz:

I didnt suffer from it in 7676, so..

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xris:

Tobbe: sometimes that happens and it's still working... but it could have had an error somewhere

[22:48:40]

Tobbe:

how would I know?

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sphery:

Yeah.

[22:49:04]

sphery:

Just wondering.

[22:49:21]

sphery:

Haven't gotten up the courage to test the new drivers.

[22:49:43]

sphery:

Thought I saw something on the lists a while back about a similar problem with Open Program Guide when starting LiveTV

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drdaz:

^^ X just jumped up to 80% usage

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drdaz:

with mythfrontend using the last 20%

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drdaz:

sphery: ok?

[22:50:38]

Tobbe:

xris: when that happen to you, will it eventually start showing progress, or will it just sit at 0 frames until it's done?

[22:50:41]

drdaz:

hmm X is using an awful lot of CPU here

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sphery:

drdaz: what happens when you disable OpenGL vsync?

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drdaz:

2 shakes..

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xris:

Tobbe: not sure — I can't remember which version of nuvexport/transcode/etc the errors all happened in.

[22:52:08]

xris:

I've seen all of those things happen in the past.

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Tobbe:

ok :)

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drdaz:

sphery: same deal

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xris:

the best way to check for something wrong is to run in single pass mode and look at the file size growing.

[22:52:38]

sphery:

hmmm.

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drdaz:

actually...

[22:53:02]

drdaz:

nah...

[22:53:04]

drdaz:

same

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drdaz:

heh

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sphery:

drdaz: I can't find anything about the Open Program Guide when starting LiveTV

[22:53:42]

drdaz:

ok

[22:53:50]

sphery:

Maybe I was just imagining seeing something.

[22:53:55]

drdaz:

:p

[22:54:05]

sphery:

(lot of "ing" in that sentance)

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drdaz:

looks like xvmc is the issue here

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drdaz:

back to standard and the CPU usage is... well crap

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drdaz:

but more normal

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sphery:

No crash with standard?

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drdaz:

this is nuts tbh.. 40%+ CPU usage for SDTV on an A64 3400+

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drdaz:

scratch that... 50+

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sphery:

Was it better with 7676?

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drdaz:

nah

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sphery:

Hmmm.

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sphery:

Definitely a problem.

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sphery:

I think I get less than that on my Athlon XP 2400+ for SDTV.

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drdaz:

heh

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drdaz:

digital?

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sphery:

No.

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drdaz:

ahh

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sphery:

(not before the PVR-x50's, anyway ;)

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sphery:

Perhaps its the digital stream.

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drdaz:

I think watching output from my pvr150 isnt so taxing on my CPU

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drdaz:

really cant fathom why that would be tho

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sphery:

You sure it's not up-res'ed to HDTV size?

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drdaz:

heh totally

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drdaz:

havent got an HDTV

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sphery:

Oh. Thought maybe it was a standard-def show up-res'ed for broadcast via ATSC or something.

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sphery:

Sounds like maybe a digital cable with firewire thing?

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sphery:

Or DVB not in the US?

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drdaz:

naw.. DVB-C. I've got a PCI DVB-C card

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drdaz:

standard def

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sphery:

Oh.

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drdaz:

I think signal strength is rubbish tho

[23:00:29]

drdaz:

I remember hearing that has an effect

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sphery:

Yeah. Especially on XvMC.

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drdaz:

70% CPU :-o

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sphery:

I'll bow out of the conversation so someone who knows what he/she is doing can help. :)

[23:01:21]

sphery:

Good luck.

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drdaz:

:p ty

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promacuser:

quick question everybody: if i have my mp3 files on a mac, is there a way to share them with mythmusic?

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ThaJeepJerk:

hello all

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ThaJeepJerk:

got a problem with transmitting on lircd I'm wondering if someone can help me with

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Tobbe:

something is wrong. I'm just doing single pass now, and the file just sits at a size of 2048. It doesn't grow at all.

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promacuser:

also, is there a place to buy *just a remote* for the PVR250?

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ThaJeepJerk:

When I do an IRSend to the serial device lirc seems to think everthing is ok but when I put a scope on the DTR pin I get nothing

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sphery:

promacuser: Samba? (Should work on OSX?)

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promacuser:

yes, so i can probably set it up with samba, huh? i'll check that out

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sphery:

Note that I know nothing of Mac's, though, so I may be way off base...

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Kaeles_sleeep:

mmm samba for osx?

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Kaeles_sleeep:

you run samba on a linux box to let windows boxes see it.

[23:07:32]

Kaeles_sleeep:

i dunno anything about running betweeen osx and linux though

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xris:

sphery: macs use samba (and can access samba shares)

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xris:

Kaeles_sleeep: apple's built-in file sharing is a modified version of samba

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Kaeles_sleeep:

kk

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promacuser:

yeah, it looks like you can run samba on the mac

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sphery:

If you can't do NFS on OSX, you could set up a Samba share and mount it on Linux with cifs module or smbfs

[23:08:33]

sphery:

Yeah.

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promacuser:

that's what i'm going to try to do

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drdaz:

heh just tried playing the same stream with vlc and the same deinterlacing settings..

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sphery:

good luck :)

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drdaz:

20%

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drdaz:

...

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drdaz:

something is very wrong there

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promacuser:

new question: i can't get the mythbox to find the database when i put in its ip address

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promacuser:

as in, i put the box address in for the host name (it's on a router), and it never can find itself unless i change it to localhost

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Tobbe:

I think I have a problem with mythtranscode. Where do I find the settings for mythtranscode? I searched the wiki but didn't find anything

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Anduin:

Tobbe: which settings?

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Tobbe:

I don't know. Doesn't it have any?

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promacuser:

do i need to change the hosts.allow to let the mythbox find itself?

[23:17:35]

xris:

hmm... anyone know about how to use myth with firewire?

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Anduin:

Tobbe: Sure, in the profiles.

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blk:

is there a way to have mythmusic continue playing in background while e.g. watching pics in mythgallery?

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Anduin:

blk: No.

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blk:

hope it will someday :/

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Tobbe:

When I go to System Status->Job Queue I have a red transcoding job with the status "Errored". What does it mean and how do I get more info?

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Kleptophobiac:

check the mythbackend logs

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Tobbe:

ok

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promacuser:

is there any place to look as to why i can't connect to the database?

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Tobbe:

nothing in the logs, last log entry was from two months ago...

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Anduin:

promacuser: can you connect with the mysql client?

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xris:

cool.. firewire connector on the cable box right into the dvr.... now if only I could get mythtv to recognize the firewire card.

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promacuser:

Anduin: you mean with bash?

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Anduin:

promacuser: Yes.

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promacuser:

Anduin: not with the mythtv user

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Anduin:

promacuser: Did you follow the guid on setting up access?

[23:38:59]

promacuser:

Anduin: perhaps not. I installed from knoppmyth

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Anduin:

I know nothing of knoppmyth other than that it exists.

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promacuser:

Anduin: i will check that later tonight

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promacuser:

neither does anyone else

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promacuser:

don't worry ;)

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Zorro:

hey guys, probably a dumb question that is in the faq's somewhere (i have looked but cant find anywhere :( ) but with mythmusic, can you only listen to the music locally? or can/will it dload/play it on an external frontend? As when I look at it in mythweb, the songs are there (mythweb sits on an external box to the backend) but when i click on the file it tells me it isnt there... ;/

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Anduin:

Zorro: MythMusich is a frontend plugin, it can work across multiple frontends but the path to the file has to be the same.

[23:45:09]

Zorro:

Anduin, cool.. I must have something wrong somewhere.. thanks ill keep looking..

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drdaz:

heh there we have it.. the new nvidia drivers still suck

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sphery:

drdaz: that saves me some testing.

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sphery:

Thanks.

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sphery:

:)

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drdaz:

dropped back to 7676 and the massive X usage went away

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drdaz:

frontend using about 30% to decode now

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drdaz:

thats closer to what I'd expect

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