Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Monday, March 13th, 2006, 00:01 UTC

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Cardoe:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125989

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Juski:

heh. no such problem here

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sean33:

gawd dam wasting good tv time with some crap on the queen of england

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sean33:

on every channel .. sheeze

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Juski:

lol

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Juski:

good thing we only get that once a year... and not on every channel either ;-)

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Juski:

so maybe you're not all such republicans after all

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Beirdo:

hah

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Beirdo:

way better than when Bush addresses his minions

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Juski:

probably. I've never had to sit through any of his lectures so I wouldn't know

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Beirdo:

heh, I shut the TV off if I get stuck with that

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Beirdo:

or hit ESC then delete

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Juski:

dammit. 16 shows scheduled to record tomorrow

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Beirdo:

not bad

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Juski:

that's 8 hours of TV

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Beirdo:

I record like 5 shows of Friends a day

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Beirdo:

plus everything else :)

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Juski:

soon have all of them then ;-)

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Beirdo:

will take a while

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Beirdo:

and my Fiancee has them all on DVD anyways

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Juski:

it's real pot-luck over here – they're never shown in any particular order

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Beirdo:

yeah, same here

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Beirdo:

4 different channels showing them

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Juski:

even tonight's American Dad is a repeat of a one already recorded & watched last year

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Beirdo:

and each is playing in order, but from different seasons

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Juski:

getting to see some TNG I'd never seen before, so that schedule can stay

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Juski:

I dunno if I dare add 'x files'

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Beirdo:

hehe

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Beirdo:

that will pollute yer drive quick

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Juski:

the black oil, contaminating mythtv...

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Juski:

amazed mythbusters hasn't worked as advertised yet though ;-)

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Juski:

hm. wife likes x files.. I'll record it

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Beirdo:

heh

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Beirdo:

make room

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sean33:

anyone seen the cartoon "danger Mouse"

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Juski:

oh yeah

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Juski:

so not funny it was hilarious

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Beirdo:

obey the wife, it's in your best interest

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Juski:

that's 18 shows to record tommorow

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Juski:

at least commercial flagging is skipping the tv station bumpers on some cable channels now

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Beirdo:

cool

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sean33:

i think that john howard looks like that little mouse penfold

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Juski:

the Australian PM? lol

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sean33:

yea

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sean33:

take a look at the pictures the spitting image

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shiznix:

and george bush is danger mouse

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Juski:

the owner of the company I work for reminds me of Penfold too.. and the company's initials are DM.... I'm tempted to make a satirical video

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shiznix:

crumbs chief!!

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sean33:

yea its a bit like that lol

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Juski:

it's prolly more than my job's worth

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sean33:

howard is a bit of a bush ass kisser i think

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Juski:

had a close shave with a clip of the South Park movie & some editing I did.. motion tracked two directors' photos onto saddam hussein & the devil's heads. went down well at work but some said I went too far

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sean33:

lol cool

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sean33:

what program did you do that with ?

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Juski:

sony vegas

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Beirdo:

hehe

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Juski:

hard bit was the lipsync

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sean33:

sounds like fun

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Beirdo:

with saddam calling Satan his bitch?

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Juski:

yeh that's the one Beirdo

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Beirdo:

that could be a BIT far for making fun of company officials, yeah :)

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Juski:

there's a guy at work (I'm not kidding) who has a photograph of one of the directors next to the photo of his wife & kid

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Beirdo:

as deserved as it may be

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Beirdo:

OMG

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Beirdo:

get that guy a life

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Juski:

he's erm... ingratiating... and somewhat uhhh _evangelical_

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Beirdo:

you need to borrow a cricket bat and fix him a bit

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Juski:

I'm wayyy back in the queue

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Beirdo:

hehe

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Beirdo:

one swing each, please

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Juski:

lol. a show I recorded last year is showing in my upcoming recording list as "this program will be recorded at an earlier time instead"

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Juski:

I think I should clean my DB up. I don't think I've deleted anything from the 'previous recordings' list .. ever

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Beirdo:

I did once

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Beirdo:

blew away the record of all A-Team episodes

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Beirdo:

then they stopped playing the reruns.

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Juski:

heh

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Beirdo:

meh

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Juski:

I might look into that mythwish thing soon – I'm always thinking of stuff to watch out for but forgetting about it

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sean33:

wow this queen footage is about as exciting as watching lawn bowls

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Beirdo:

so stop watching

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Beirdo:

silly

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Juski:

what? is she fighting some old geezer over who knocked the jack off the spot?

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sean33:

im waiting for some entertaining terrisim

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Juski:

riiiiight

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Juski:

you might regret saying that one day

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Beirdo:

especially with an Irish-sounding name

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sean33:

lol yea whys that ?

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Juski:

it's amazing who they can pull in & ship off to camp x-ray without due cause these days

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sean33:

i cant help my parents were bond fans

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Juski:

why does myth think that I've recorded Extreme Makeover in the past?

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Juski:

have I not been keeping up to speed with things? is that a bug?

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sean33:

ooora thats kute little kids giving the queen some flowers

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dtm:

okay i'm trying to migrate my mythtv db from mysql3 to mysql4 on another host. i created the user 'mythtv' which has perms to connect from localhost and from the mythbackend. i created the db mythconverg. i can't connect to localhost using 'mysql -u mythtv --password=mythtv'. why not?

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dtm:

ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES)

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Beirdo:

Juski, ask your wife :)

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Juski:

maybe it was recorded last year & I just forgot

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Cromz:

a test recording to see if it records.. yeah.. that's it ;)

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Juski:

Cromz: as it turns out – yes it was! (phew!)

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Cromz:

lol

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Beirdo:

whew

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hydroksyde:

hello humans!

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Beirdo:

we'd have to wonder about ya otherwise ;)

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Juski:

Beirdo: I know

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dtm:

HELLOS

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sean33:

hi

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Likwid:

hey guys

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dtm:

hellos

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Likwid:

anyone ever have trouble with the nvidia driver turning the screen black and white?

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mogorman:

its in the wiki

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Likwid:

nv driver works fine, upgrade to nvidia and everything is B&W :(

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Likwid:

which wiki, ive looked everywhere

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mogorman:

when i googled mythtv nvidia should find it, i found it by accident looking for mythtv alsa stuff

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Likwid:

cool thanks alot :) i just saw the wiki page, ive only seen certain articles from it ididnt know there was more than what ive seen :)

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sean33:

wow how can i make mine B&W too

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dtm:

Likwid: you're not from undernet #linuxos several years ago are you

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dtm:

sean33: use aalib

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sean33:

i would just like to get it to switch tot he tv out

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Likwid:

nah ive only been messin with linux for a few years

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Likwid:

and i dont remember ever goin to #linuxos

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dtm:

Likwid: kthx

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dtm:

he was all lowercase anyway ;)

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Likwid:

:)

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sean33:

if i run mythfront end with optional --logfile it crashes every 10 mins or so , but with no logfile it works flawlessly

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sean33:

i though that was a bit strange

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Juski:

Likwid: likely you've not got your xorg.conf configured properly.. read nvidia's readme here: http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/ . . . endix-h.html

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Juski:

anyway – time for bed already.. night all

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Likwid:

thank you Juski, goonight

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murphy_slaw:

Anyone running MythDVD on Ubuntu Breezy? It looks like they built mtd without transcode support. :-/

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rhuey:

hey.... what's the advantage/diff of Ubuntu Breezy anyway?

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murphy_slaw:

advantage/differences from what?

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rhuey:

ubuntu?

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eternaluxe:

breezy is a version name. Like xp or me or 2000 for windows

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eternaluxe:

It's the latest release of the Ubuntu distro

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murphy_slaw:

Yeah, Breezy is the codename for Ubuntu 5.10

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eternaluxe:

Anyone here using Comcast digital cable?

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Likwid:

omg i have color

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murphy_slaw:

MythDVD 0.18 worked fine on the last version of Ubuntu, but it's kind of hard to rip DVDs without transcode. :(

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eternaluxe:

..or know of any links regarding it, tuner cards, and mythtv?

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Likwid:

i had it set to "TVOutFormat" "SVIDEO" when i was using a s-video to rca converter, switched it to the rca jack on the video carsd and changed format to composite and it worked after a reboot :)

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eternaluxe:

(all together in one document, hopefully?)

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eternaluxe:

I bought a card before I knew that digital cable was fundamentally different (duh) from analog.

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sphing:

anyone running ubuntu?

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sean33:

this is drving me nuts mt geforce2 just refuses to switch to tvout

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eternaluxe:

sphing: not for mythtv, yet

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sphing:

well checkout this : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=143334

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eternaluxe:

whoa nelly! make sure you do your security updates. That little bug appears to be squashed, according to the final posts in that thread.

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eternaluxe:

and by little, I mean _gigamongous_

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sphing:

haha yea

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eternaluxe:

dopester, do you have digital cable? qam encryted?

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xris:

dopester: you around?

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Likwid:

arg, i added deb-src ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main to sources, ran apt-get build-dep mythtv, and liblame-dev cannot be found :(

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xris:

did you enable multiverse, too?

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Likwid:

how do i do that?

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Likwid:

sorry im not exactly a linux guru :)

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xris:

dunno what the address is. for ubuntu, it's there in the graphical package management setup utility

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Likwid:

i think i might have found out what was wrong

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sean33:

hmm interesting

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Likwid:

i have to control my excitement and read more :) lol sorry guys

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sean33:

nvidia option rotate inverted ... inverts the application but live tv is not inverted

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sean33:

so even if you were using this option its kinda useless for the way that the apps render

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SlicerDicer-:

xris: got a moment?

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xris:

y

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SlicerDicer-:

I am wondering how you setup your hdtv to be able to record

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SlicerDicer-:

I am trying to set it so only hdtv records on encoder 2

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SlicerDicer-:

but I cant seem to assign hdtv to it

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xris:

I don't record hdtv

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SlicerDicer-:

ohh

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xris:

my air2pc is just for playing with

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xris:

when I record with it, I select the specific channel

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xris:

separate listing source for over the air stuff

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SlicerDicer-:

yeah I can change channel with firewire

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sean33:

also DVD's are not inverted

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sean33:

how stupid is this option im thinking very !

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xris:

sean33: sounds like it's not inverting XV

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SlicerDicer-:

xris: do you know if its possible to assign like that?

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sean33:

yea i would conclude there is something using overlays that isnt inverted

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sean33:

i dont actualy need it inverted i was just looking at the option

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xris:

no clue, surry

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xris:

sorry, even

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xris:

ok, afk.. iron chef time

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sean33:

iron chef ?

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mogorman:

so it was not myths fault

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mogorman:

zap2it is wrong for a few channels in my area at the moment

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mogorman:

does that happen regularly for anyone else?

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sean33:

did i miss something ?

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sean33:

that made no sence

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mogorman:

oh i had a problem in here earlier

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mogorman:

where some of the shows i had set myth to record

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mogorman:

where not what they said they were

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sean33:

ok

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mogorman:

and i was confused

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mogorman:

and wondered if i wasnt in sync with zap2it

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sean33:

oh a time issue ?

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mogorman:

but everything looks right just zap2it is wrong for some of the channels in my area

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mogorman:

i think its the channels fault

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sean33:

progarm guide data up the crappa ?

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mogorman:

for this candian nicolodean

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mogorman:

channel

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sean33:

i like nicolodean

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mogorman:

everything else appears to be correct

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sean33:

they have nicolodean on paytv here in australia

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mogorman:

ahh

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mogorman:

im getting free cable as they didnt shut it off in my old apt

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mogorman:

very nice for my myth box

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mogorman:

every channel under the sun

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sean33:

i actualy bought the whole series of invader zim on dvd

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mogorman:

ooh i like that artist

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mogorman:

love johny homicidal maniac

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sean33:

johny bravo ?

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mogorman:

the artist who did invader zim did a comic in a similar style

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mogorman:

about a psycho who kills people sometimes

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mogorman:

but is mostly trying to just be himself

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sean33:

arr ok they were all nuts but in a rather funny way

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mogorman:

its kinda in same spirit as invader zim

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mogorman:

just darker

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mogorman:

i think he did it before invader zim

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sean33:

ummm oops i tried that rotate inverted option and i cant now get it back to normal

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sean33:

lol

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mogorman:

hey sean33 you wouldnt know if there is a way to get mythtv to just transcode the audio?

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mogorman:

i get mpeg4 from my tuner

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sean33:

must leave a gate in a particular condition on the video card

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mogorman:

but only raw audio

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mogorman:

out from card

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sean33:

lol umm nope no idea, i havent got to recording things yet lol thats next week lol

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mogorman:

yeah i havent find anyone who knows and dont want to bug devs

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sean33:

i kinda miss using the old tv card on win 3.11 it could get channels up to 2.5Ghz which i thought was quite good

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dopester:

xris: sure im around

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bones_:

I've got a question about setting up audio to use the s/pdif connection

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Likwid:

ok, ive tried every dependency that i could find on any debian mythtv guide, and im still coming up with build-dependencies for mythtv could not be satisfied

[02:19:15]

Likwid:

when i run apt-get build-dep mythtv that is

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bones_:

I'm on kernel 2.6.15. I've searched the net, but I'm wondering if alsa is now working different than it was before becuase I set this up before on an earlier machine, but It's not working on this new machine. Can anyone here help?

[02:20:12]

mogorman:

really i did that on my mac from the deb packages on the web and then got the source and built it Likwid

[02:20:32]

Likwid:

thats strange

[02:21:02]

Likwid:

im gonna upgrade kernel and see what else i can find out

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bones_:

Likwid, what dependancies is it listing as unsatisifed?

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hydroksyde:

the configure script for mythtv appears to have a directx option... does mythtv compile in windows?

[02:23:06]

sean33:

how do i get a nice pic to display from boot instead of all the startup text ?

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hydroksyde:

sean33, bootsplash or gensplash

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sean33:

thanks

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bones_:

I'm using sound from the nforce2 chip set, but when I try to set it to use s/pdif out, I don't get any sound.

[02:24:47]

bones_:

I've tried the information in Jarod Wilson's howto, and the mythtv wiki also

[02:24:53]

Likwid:

bones_ its saying note, selecting libjack0.80.0-dev istead of libjack-dev and then it says that message

[02:25:36]

bones_:

Likwid, hm I'm not sure, I've not encountered that before, but upgrading to a newer kernel seems like a good idea

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Likwid:

i tried installing that on its own and its just saying build dep. not satisfied now

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Cardoe:

xris: have you heard of issues with the javascript in mythweb crashing firefox? http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125989

[02:29:54]

bones_:

I've installed gnome-mixer, IEC958 is selected, along with Analog to IEC958 Output

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xris:

Cardoe: nope

[02:31:20]

Cardoe:

xris: yeah nor have I or anyone else using this stuff

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Cardoe:

I think the guy's on crack.

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bones_:

if I specifically give -D in aplay, I get: aplay: set_params:899: Channels count non available

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xris:

Cardoe: he probably just needs a clean reinstall of firefox

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adante:

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bones_:

aplay -D dmix-digital /usr/share/sounds/KDE_Startup.wav <--- that gives me the error

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Cardoe:

xris: probably

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sean33:

i give up this gf2 is shit think i will go back to the gf4

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Cardoe:

sean33: duh. we could have told you that

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Cardoe:

gf2 will suck compared to gf4 tv out

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dmachi:

ewps, i was in the wrong channel by accident. How can I reconfigure where myth looks for mysql (IP address)?

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Kelerion:

~/.mythtv/mysql.txt

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Kelerion:

or wherever that file is on your setup

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dmachi:

ok thanks.

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bobbyz:

hey, has anyone tried to stream mythtv nuppel files before? Has anyone found anything that works? I was going to look into vlc to see if it supports mythtv's mpeg4 nupple files or something similar but I thought I'd ask to see if anyone else had tried this before.

[03:07:49]

bobbyz:

Basically I have an upstream bandwidth averaging 50KB/s and I thought it would be fun if I could stream tv over the net when I'm away from my apartment.

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Kelerion:

not me.. but theres a few that have streamed over the net from home to their work using vlc

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bobbyz:

aha! That's great to hear!

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bobbyz:

I'm wondering if they're streaming mpeg2 or transcoded mpeg4 though. The 'file' tool seems to think that mpeg2 streams saved via my pvr-150 are true mpeg2 files so I imagine vlc would handle them properly, but once transcoded, 'file' sees them only as "data"

[03:12:02]

bobbyz:

so I'm wondering if vlc can handle these files

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Kelerion:

I'd assume it could

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bobbyz:

I guess I'll just have to try it out when I get home, but I thought I'd ask before I go installing a bunch of junk to get vlc working

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Kelerion:

vlc should be installed on *every* system as a matter of principle in my opinion... *great* piece of software... nearly up there with mplayer in terms of what it can do/play

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bobbyz:

yeah, I have mplayer on every comp I own, but vlc I don't use much

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a1fa:

good evening ladies

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bobbyz:

it seems very neat, but I'm just getting into the whole streaming media everywhere concept

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a1fa:

Updated to revision 9341.

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a1fa:

anybody running 9341?

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dtm:

Kelerion: yeah.

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dmachi:

hmm, did the location of where you setup myth to use an external program to change channels change sometime recently?

[03:32:39]

Nothingman:

hi, all

[03:32:44]

dmachi:

I can't seem to located it in "Input Connections" anymore

[03:32:52]

Nothingman:

still having the same trouble with Myth, though it worked for a bit a couple days ago

[03:34:43]

Nothingman:

"Could not connect to the master backend server — is it running? Is the IP address set for it in the setup program correct?"

[03:36:14]

dmachi:

and is it running and the ip address correct?

[03:36:37]

Nothingman:

it is running and the IP address unchanged and correct

[03:37:08]

Nothingman:

messages from restarting mythbackend (just upgraded to 0.19–3, but it was doing the same before)

[03:37:12]

Nothingman:

QServerSocket: failed to bind or listen to the socket

[03:37:14]

Nothingman:

2006-03–12 22:18:03.645 Failed to bind port 6555. Exiting.

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dmachi:

well myhbackend isn't able to grab that port then

[03:38:13]

dmachi:

what does netstat -lp | grep 6555 show you?

[03:39:56]

Nothingman:

tcp 0 0 *:6555 *:* LISTEN -

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Nothingman:

tcp 0 0 *:6555 *:* LISTEN 23525/mythbackend

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Nothingman:

second one as root

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a1fa:

its allready running

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dtm:

haha FLAWLESS VICTORY. i just migrated my mysql data from mysql3 on one host to mysql4 on another host.

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dtm:

SlicerDicer-: ha!!!

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dtm:

o/

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dtm:

SlicerDicer-: did you recover yours?

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a1fa:

vagina?

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dmachi:

well mythbackend is running or at least has locked it with pid 23525, i'd try to kill that then restart it

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dtm:

a1fa: almost

[03:41:36]

dmachi:

anyone have any idea where the external channel change setup has run off to?

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Nothingman:

just killed and restarted mythbackend and mythfrontend, then restarted in that order

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xris:

dmachi: mythtv-setup

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Nothingman:

same deal

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xris:

dmachi: input connections

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dmachi:

yeah i know that, but it should be in "Input connections" (at least thats what I remember and the docs say), but it doesn't seem to be there anymore

[03:43:44]

Nothingman:

except for the port error in the mythbackend messages

[03:44:36]

Nothingman:

that's not there

[03:44:49]

Nothingman:

but still can't use anything db-related in mythfrontend

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xris:

dmachi: it's only there for input types that support it.

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dmachi:

xris: display name, video source, scan for channels, fetch channels, starting channel, input preference.....but nothing about external

[03:45:29]

xris:

my pvr-150 (svideo) lists it, my air2pc doesn't

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dmachi:

xris: yeah, i've been using it for over a year now

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dmachi:

xris: svideo on pvr-350

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xris:

dmachi: dunno. maybe delete/recreate the card?

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dmachi:

xris: but i just reinstalled (combining backend and frontend on same bo

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dmachi:

xris: ok :(

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dmachi:

Nothingman: if it is running on your backend (netstat -lp | grep 6555 should have a different pid now) then I would suspect that you need to fix something in myth-setup whereever your frontend is running.

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Likwid:

i upgraded kernel to 2.6 in debian and when i do apt-get build-dep myth, im still getting dependencies could not be resolved, i added ftp.nerim.net to my sources.list, and that should take care of it but it doesnt

[03:56:06]

Likwid:

im completely stumped

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dmachi:

xris: i dont' know what happened to that option....should be there, but I updated it manually by in the mysql tables and its working :)

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Nothingman:

any help?

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Nothingman:

sudo netstat -lp | grep 6555: tcp 0 0 *:6555 *:* LISTEN 26131/mythbackend

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Nothingman:

great, thanks!

[04:09:13]

dtm:

okay i relocated my db from mysql3 on one host to mysql4 on another host. so do i have to edit anything in the database or in the mythbackend's configuration?

[04:11:12]

dtm:

i see that the original mysql host's hostname is in the db dump.

[04:11:14]

dtm:

for some reason

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dmachi:

dtm i just had to do the same thing, look in ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt

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dtm:

yeah i see it

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dtm:

i changed the DBName

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dtm:

is that it?

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dtm:

dmachi: dont have to edit the db contents?

[04:12:49]

dtm:

# This is useful if your hostname changes often, as otherwise

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dtm:

# you'll need to reconfigure mythtv (or futz with the DB) every time.

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dmachi:

well i was doing a new db, all i had to do is tell it the new host

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dtm:

ok.

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dtm:

whoa. the db is loaded with it. i'll have to 'sed' the contents.

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dmachi:

dtm, ?

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dtm:

my original hostname is ChromaKey. so i set LocalHostName=mythdb in ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt and did 'cat mythconverg.db | sed -e 's,ChromaKey,mythdb,g' > mythconverg2.db'

[04:15:00]

Nothingman:

when I close mythtv-setup, I get the "Could not connect..." error again

[04:15:12]

Nothingman:

though the messages in the terminal show it connects fine

[04:15:41]

dmachi:

Nothingman: depending on what you change in mythsetup you might have to restart mythbackend

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dmachi:

dtm: ahh you are changing the db name too i guess?

[04:16:06]

dtm:

no

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dtm:

just the hostname

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dmachi:

is mythconverg.db your original exported db?

[04:18:33]

dtm:

yeah

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dmachi:

ahh, i see :)

[04:19:05]

dtm:

yeah!

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dtm:

i'm relocating the database.

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Nothingman:

anyone know how to get tvtime to recall its own settings?

[04:32:34]

dtm:

Nothingman: maybe the people who have anything to do with tvtime know that

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dtm:

such as perhaps if there's a #tvtime

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Nothingman:

well, I know there's many a MythTV user who does TVtime as well

[04:33:14]

Nothingman:

figured I'd ask while I was here

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dtm:

really? why would they do thta

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dtm:

i've never heard it mentioned here but what do i know

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Nothingman:

because like me, they run an older machine that can't do Myth's liveTV

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Nothingman:

but they use the same machine for recording because it's their best desktop

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mchou:

hmm, interesting.....

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Nothingman:

not to mention, the Myth manual specifically suggests using it at least for verifying a working tuner card configuration

[04:36:07]

mchou:

samsung is moving to 80nm for ddr2......

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Nothingman:

OK, new problem

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mchou:

wonder what that might mean for memory prices

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Nothingman:

mythfrontend crashes whenever it needs to use the sound card

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Nothingman:

I tried it with /dev/dsp1 and /dev/dsp

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Nothingman:

also listed is /dev/adsp, but that doesn't exist in /dev

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Nothingman:

I take that back

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dtm:

Nothingman: i did not know that. interesting.

[04:41:10]

Nothingman:

my machine has two sound cards (one integrated) and I think btaudio is also configured, though my tuner card isn't supposed to have the chip it needs to support digital audio through the PCI slot

[04:41:31]

Nothingman:

I've been having trouble getting sound from recorded programs for about a month

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Nothingman:

another problem I've had is that any time mythbackend is recording (LiveTV or a scheduled recording) it leaves whatever audio open, so I hear it while it's recording, which is annoying not only because I hear (full blast) it from the other room or as soon as I get home, but also because I hear the combined output from the live audio/video feed and the grabbed audio device

[04:45:51]

Nothingman:

the only thing that seems to fix this is to run tvtime, which takes over that input

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Beirdo:

sounds like you need to revisit your mixer settings

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Beirdo:

ahhh, nice

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Nothingman:

well, there's only one mixer device under /dev

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Beirdo:

the latest version of Alexandria accepts UPC codes as well as the ISBN-coded UPC codes

[04:49:04]

Beirdo:

umm, I mean run amixer or something and set the mixer properly

[04:50:20]

Beirdo:

anyways, it's bedtime

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Nothingman:

the problem is the line-in becomes unmuted, and only manually turning it down fixes it

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Beirdo:

hmm

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Nothingman:

or TVtime mutes it properly

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baumer:

I getting an error in mtd that the directory can't be created when trying to rip a dvd to a directory that is 777

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Anduin:

baumer – What is the exact error?

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baumer:

http://pastebin.com/599133 <- error

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baumer:

rips .vob to temp dir fine

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Anduin:

baumer – fs?

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baumer:

ext3

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baumer:

tried to smb share on xfs too, same error

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Anduin:

and it doesn't already exist

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Anduin:

?

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baumer:

no it does not exist

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baumer:

while, the .vob already does, but the dir doesn't

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baumer:

remote frontend fwiw

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Beirdo:

did you try without the space in the name?

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Beirdo:

also who are you running the rip as?

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baumer:

yes.

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Beirdo:

and what are the permissions on the directory above that directory?

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baumer:

same user that runs mythtv and owns rip directory (/home/user)

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Beirdo:

odd

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baumer:

I really want to rip to smb share, which I modified to 777

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mchou:

baumer: just use dvdbackup or vobcopy :)

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Beirdo:

ick

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Beirdo:

you are writing over smb?

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baumer:

waf would be nice :)

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Beirdo:

who is the smb share mounted as?

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baumer:

tried both local and smb, same error

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mchou:

baumer: waf? you wife rips dvds?

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baumer:

if she could do it through mythtv she would

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Beirdo:

smb between two linux boxes is silliness. Should use NFSv3 or NFSv4 between UNIX machines :)

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mchou:

lol

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baumer:

yes I know...

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mchou:

Beirdo: except when NFS is broken :)

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Beirdo:

NFS isn't broken

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mchou:

Beirdo: it has been in recent kernels

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baumer:

had it setup for an XP lappy and never bothered to deal with NFS

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baumer:

...yet

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Beirdo:

so don't use bleeding-edge kernels

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Beirdo:

duh

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Beirdo:

so I dunno why it don't like you, baumer. It's likely a permissions thing somehow though

[05:08:45]

Beirdo:

and I really need to go to bed

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dtm:

Beirdo: nite.

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Beirdo:

night, all

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baumer:

tried different directories and all are writable by the user running mythfrontend and mtd

[05:09:54]

baumer:

anybody else have a thought?

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mchou:

baumer: there is nothing hard or difficult about using dvdbackup :)

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mchou:

if your wife can type she knows how to use it

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SlicerDicer-:

baumer: /tmp/ for mtd to write to

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baumer:

typing with a remote control can be hard and difficult :)

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SlicerDicer-:

and then /path/to/storage for it to create in

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baumer:

SlicerDicer: you lost me

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SlicerDicer-:

make sure its readable and writeable by the user that myth runs at

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baumer:

it is

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SlicerDicer-:

your talking about mtd

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mchou:

baumer: then get a wireless kb, preferably IR

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SlicerDicer-:

baumer: what does it say when you execute mtd?

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SlicerDicer-:

if you try to run it with mythdvd what does it say?

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SlicerDicer-:

try using full verbose and it will help troubleshoot it

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baumer:

starting mtd or ripping with mtd?

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SlicerDicer-:

either do they go crazy?

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SlicerDicer-:

I mean does it say that /var/lib/mythtv/log

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SlicerDicer-:

or whatever is the log place?

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SlicerDicer-:

if so change the log to a place it can write to

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Anduin:

baumer – Non-trancde rips work?

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SlicerDicer-:

it will tell you whats preventing it from working if you manually fire mtd and test it

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baumer:

SlicerDicer: this is the error in mtd http://pastebin.com/599133

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SlicerDicer-:

ok

[05:14:23]

SlicerDicer-:

I am backing up data so my computer is running a tad slow

[05:14:23]

SlicerDicer-:

hehe

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baumer:

Anduin: it rips a vob to the temp directory fine (/var/lib/mythdvd/temp)

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SlicerDicer-:

my reiserfs is crapping out

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SlicerDicer-:

well

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mchou:

SlicerDicer-: serves you right

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SlicerDicer-:

you might consider using /tmp as the temporary storage directory

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mchou:

why anyone would want to use reiser is beyond me

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SlicerDicer-:

if the folder wedding crashers exists delete it

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SlicerDicer-:

mchou: cause its what I have been using for ages

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baumer:

does not exist

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mchou:

SlicerDicer-: that's certainly not a good reason :)

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SlicerDicer-:

well then run mtd as root and see what happens

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baumer:

same

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SlicerDicer-:

if it works then obviously its a permissions issue

[05:16:13]

SlicerDicer-:

then you got something seriously wrong with your system and I have no idea how to troubleshoot it

[05:16:29]

SlicerDicer-:

if you cannot write a file as root I dont know what to tell you

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baumer:

interesting, perfect copy works

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baumer:

trying to rip at "excellent" gives error

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Anduin:

perfect won't write to the temp directory

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baumer:

correct

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SlicerDicer-:

baumer: want something cool?

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SlicerDicer-:

my personal settings for mythdvd :)

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SlicerDicer-:

I spent alot of time testing it hehe

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baumer:

ok

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SlicerDicer-:

this will not be a fixall

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SlicerDicer-:

but its a great thing to have for when you do get it working

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Cardoe:

SlicerDicer-: rm -rf /

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SlicerDicer-:

indeed

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SlicerDicer-:

query that into your database it keeps all the mythtv settings that exist currently and adds 8 extra of my "fun" settings ;-)

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SlicerDicer-:

just make sure you have xvid support hehe

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SlicerDicer-:

sorry forgot to open ports hehe

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Anduin:

baumer – do you have an mtd.log file in that directory?

[05:24:04]

baumer:

yep, hang on, i'll pastebin it

[05:25:15]

baumer:

http://pastebin.com/599152

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baumer:

nothing interesting...

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Anduin:

Yeah it was more of a check to make sure, mtd.log is at the base of RIPLocation

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baumer:

actually that one was from /var/lib/mythdvd/temp

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baumer:

don't have one in rip directory

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Anduin:

Yeah, you should be able to erase it and mtd will recreate it, that should be where it tries to create the directory for transcode as well.

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Anduin:

Yeah DB setting is DVDRipLocation

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baumer1:

arggh!

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baumer1:

pooter just locked up hard ripping dvd

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mchou:

haha!!

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baumer1:

anduin: any other ideas?

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mchou:

told you to use a cli tool instead

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Anduin:

mtd -n may give more info, but not entirely likely

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Anduin:

baumer1 – So are the pasts you shared from the same run? (I notice one with the _ and one without)

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Anduin:

pastes

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baumer1:

no

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baumer1:

I've been trying it with and without

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baumer1:

trying again with mtd -n

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baumer1:

if it locks up again, I'm going to bed

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baumer1:

changed temp directory so it is doing a new rip 17min.

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baumer1:

any remote recommendations while I'm waiting... I'm in the market

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Cromz:

isn't this special.. got harry potter and the goblet of fire.. bombs out on playing in my myth.. but plays ok in this system. the differance. better dvd drive in this one.. ;) time to upgrade the myth one.

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Lycan^:

guys what do u use to adjust the brightness,contrast etc when watching tv in mythtv?

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ip_goat_rodeo:

my tv's controls

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Lycan^:

ok...im watching through the pc

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Octane:

its possible to have nuvexport automatically work after recording, right

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Octane:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascals_wager

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Octane:

oops

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Anduin:

Octane – There are user jobs that will let you do anything, and I think we all took a basic philosophy class.

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Octane:

Anduin haha

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Likwid:

so after i did a apt-get dist-upgrade, now its saying that X is not executable :(

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Likwid:

tried reinstalling and replacing the symlinks and nothing is working

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eiggirC:

Likwid: at a guess – try apt-get install xserver-xorg

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Likwid:

xorg is already the newest version

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eiggirC:

okay sorry. that bit me once.

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Likwid:

thank you though

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Likwid:

im trying to remove xorg and install xfree86 over again

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eiggirC:

okay good luck

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phar0e:

yo

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dtm:

word

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Likwid:

that seemed to work, then i got a pearl error, fixed that with apt-get install localeconf

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Likwid:

makin me mad now, i dont want to reinstall :( everytime i fixsomething, something new comes up

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shiznix:

hmmm...has the filenaming for recorded shows changed in 0.19 to earlier versions ?

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shiznix:

eg. an earlier version produced the file '1000_20050405213900_20050405214300.nuv', yet 0.19 produces filenames like '1004_20060312003700.nuv'

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shiznix:

or is this a bug ?

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shiznix:

earlier versions contain a start and endtime in the filename

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shiznix:

0.19 seems to only produce a starttime in the filename

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shiznix:

though there is an endtime present in the DB in 0.19....

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shiznix:

*shrugs*

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hexoroid:

anybody got hauppauge 150 ?

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phar0e:

hi

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phar0e:

which insider can tell me when 0.19.1 will be released?

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phar0e:

shiznix: I noticed that file naming scheme change as well

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Juski:

probably when it's ready

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hexoroid:

lol

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phar0e:

Juski, of all people I thought you'd have the insider's scoop

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bio_:

hexoroid: i have

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hexoroid:

bio_

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pjn_:

if I live in a region where shows aren't reshown (free to air tv – Aus) then the diff to programs/mythbackend/scheduler.cpp at line 268 don't mean squat, right?

[09:06:18]

pjn_:

http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/attachment/ticket/ . . . uling.2.diff

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hexoroid:

do you load your tuner like modprobe ivtv tuner=57

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hexoroid:

bio i keep getting some wierd error message when i type that in

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pjn_:

(that small section from 268–273 won't patch against thehunter.ws source tree)

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hexoroid:

ivtv0: Failed to load module tuner

[09:07:08]

hexoroid:

ivtv0: Could not detect tuner standard, defaulting to NTSC.

[09:07:09]

hexoroid:

ivtv1: Failed to load module tuner

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pjn_:

(and I'm not a coder so, I'm out of luck on manually patching...)

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bio_:

hexoroid: actually i just do modprobe ivtv

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bio_:

but ill check at what tunertype its discovered

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hexoroid:

can you paste me your lsmod bio ?

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bio_:

55

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bio_:

yeah sec

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hexoroid:

thank you

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bio_:

http://pastebin.com/599373 <-- thats dmesg

[09:16:56]

bio_:

http://pastebin.com/599374 <- lsmod

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hexoroid:

hmm

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hexoroid:

tveeprom 13996 0

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hexoroid:

where is that comming from

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hexoroid:

ivtv1: Failed to load module tveeprom

[09:20:40]

hexoroid:

ivtv1: Failed to load module tuner

[09:20:40]

hexoroid:

ivtv1: Failed to load module cx25840

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hexoroid:

and they are all in lsmod wierd

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bio_:

part ov ivtv id say

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bio_:

000:00:0b.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)

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bio_:

you have the same card?

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hexoroid:

yep

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hexoroid:

same one

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bio_:

strange :)

[09:22:22]

bio_:

latest ivtv driver?

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hexoroid:

from the source

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hexoroid:

0.4.3

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bio_:

0.4.3 for me

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bio_:

k, me too

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hexoroid:

where are your tuner.ko

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hexoroid:

stuff located at ?

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bio_:

/lib/modules/2.6.15.4/ivtv and /lib/modules/2.6.15.4/kernel/drivers/media/video/

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bio_:

but anyway must be the same as you. just did make and make config

[09:25:12]

bio_:

but im thinking right now if i had to get firmware

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bio_:

first modprobe went also wrong if i remember right

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bio_:

v4l-cx2341x-init.mpg

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bio_:

http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Firmware

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hexoroid:

what is that ?

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hexoroid:

where did you put that ?

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bio_:

check that site

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bio_:

goes in the hotplug directory

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bio_:

dont know what that video is, but thats also the name of the firmwarer

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bio_:

or well, it actually is the firmware :)

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hexoroid:

oh

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bio_:

works?

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Juski:

morning

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laga:

morning juski

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hexoroid:

bio_ i am still trying ill let you know :)

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bio_:

k :)

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Merlin83b:

Morning Juski.

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Juski:

morning laga.. feeling better yet? ;-)

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bio_:

2006-03–13 10:51:10.649 Channel::GetCurrentChannelNum(S12): Failed to find Channel 'S12'

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bio_:

i have this channel on tv. reception i not too good but quite ok

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bio_:

setting atsc signal threshold lower didnt help either. anything else i could try?

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laga:

Juski: nope ;) maybe in a few hours, i've just returned from the doctor

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bio_:

or isnt signal strength the reason for that error

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hexoroid:

bio the step 2 i dont understand on that website

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bio_:

i didnt do that step

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bio_:

we dont have a decoder on the pvr150

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hexoroid:

oh

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hexoroid:

heheh

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hexoroid:

so step 1 and step3

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bio_:

thats what i did

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bio_:

maybe one should do step 2, but it works for me without

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hexoroid:

maybe not even step3

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hexoroid:

did you do step3 ?

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bio_:

yes

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bio_:

step 3 actually the most important

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bio_:

just cp v4l-cx2341x-init.mpg /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware

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bio_:

and modprobe

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hexoroid:

hmm where did you get that *.mpg thing ?

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hexoroid:

cuz its not in that *.zip

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hexoroid:

oh i see it :)

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hexoroid:

nvm

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bio_:

2006-03–13 11:00:14.498 Channel::GetCurrentChannelNum(238.25): Failed to find Channel '238.25'

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bio_:

damn, same as with entering channel "S12"

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hexoroid:

what about those

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bio_:

is there a way to disable signal strength checking

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hexoroid:

*.ax

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hexoroid:

files and *.dll that come in step 1 ?

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hexoroid:

did you have to put them anywhere cuz it doesnt say nothing about them

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bio_:

ignore them

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bio_:

dont know what they are, but looks like windows-stuff

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bio_:

should work by now :)

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hexoroid:

what about that

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hexoroid:

v4l-cx25840.fw

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hexoroid:

file ?

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hexoroid:

they didnt say to rename that 'x'

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hexoroid:

just leave it like that ?

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hexoroid:

naked firmware # ls

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hexoroid:

v4l-cx23416-enc.fw v4l-cx23416-init.mpg v4l-cx25840.fw

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hexoroid:

or to rename v4l-cx25840.fw to v4l-cx23416.fw as well

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bio_:

shelbyville:/usr/lib/hotplug/firmware# ls

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bio_:

v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw v4l-cx2341x-init.mpg v4l-cx25840.fw

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hexoroid:

oh you didnt change the 'x'

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hexoroid:

either

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hexoroid:

heh i did

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hexoroid:

i thought maybe i had to

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bio_:

modprobe should allready work

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hexoroid:

ivtv1: Failed to load module wm8775

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hexoroid:

ivtv1: Failed to load module tda9887

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bio_:

just do a rmmod ivtv |modprobe ivtv

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hexoroid:

hmm

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phar0e:

anyone here running debian?

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bio_:

yeah me

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Merlin83b:

Beirdo: You should make your bot log #mythtv, too.

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phar0e:

what version bio_?

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bio_:

testing

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hexoroid:

http://pastebin.com/599433

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hexoroid:

check that bio_

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bio_:

hm

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bio_:

module loading order is different then mine

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hexoroid:

yeah and i removed module and everything

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hexoroid:

i did rmmod on every one of them

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hexoroid:

ivtv1: Failed to load module tuner

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hexoroid:

ivtv1: Failed to load module cx25840

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Calroth:

the end of "dmesg" might give you the reason why

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Calroth:

but apart from that, i know nothing about ivtv :-)

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phar0e:

what about, anyone here running x86_64 arch?

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deadlyninja:

i have mythbackend running on a server in the closet, when i run mythfrontend it connects to the backend for some things but for other things it tries to use localhost (and fails)

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hexoroid:

bio_, did you have to load any modules manualy like wm8775 ?

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deadlyninja:

do you have to tell mythfrontend where the backend is, in multiple places?

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bio_:

nope

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hexoroid:

i have to load this manually

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hexoroid:

heh

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hexoroid:

naked ~ # modprobe tuner

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hexoroid:

naked ~ # modprobe cx25840

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hexoroid:

naked ~ # modprobe tda9887

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hexoroid:

naked ~ # modprobe tveeprom

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hexoroid:

naked ~ # modprobe wm8775

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deadlyninja:

is there any reason why the frontend should be getting these errors: "Connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 (try 1 of 5)" "Connection timed out."

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deadlyninja:

the backend server is set to not be localhost

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Juski:

deadlyninja: running mysql5?

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hexoroid:

bios check this out now.. when i loaded those manually

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deadlyninja:

Juski, mysql4

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hexoroid:

bio_, http://pastebin.com/599453

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deadlyninja:

i dont have mysql running on the frontend, do i need it?

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Juski:

deadlyninja: maybe the frontend just can't talk to the backend, like the error says. if it's a remote frontend, make sure your mysql server is configured not to limit itself to connections from only localhost

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deadlyninja:

i can connect to the backend with "mysql -h bizmo.lan -u mythtv -p mythconverg"

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deadlyninja:

and that works fine

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deadlyninja:

and the frontend does get some info from the server, for instance, it can see the last time fillmythdatabase was run

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RaYmAn-Bx:

deadlyninja: sure you remembered to set the ip to non-127.0.0.1 in both places in mythtv-setup? I accidentally only set it one of the places and my remote mythweb tried to connect to localhost

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bio_:

http://pastebin.com/599453

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bio_:

ups sorry

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hexoroid:

my post ;)

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hexoroid:

hehe

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hexoroid:

for some reason those fail to load no idea wy :(

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hexoroid:

why*

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hexoroid:

modprobe ivtv doesnt even load tveeprom

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deadlyninja:

RaYmAn-Bx, the backend did have stuff set to 127.* but i didnt think the frontend connects to the backend, gets the backend ip and then connects to that ip

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deadlyninja:

RaYmAn-Bx, so yeah that fixed it, thanks

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RaYmAn-Bx:

deadlyninja: it connects to the mysql server, gets the backend info and connects to the backend..at least as far as I can tell

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hexoroid:

bio_, can you paste me your modprobe.conf ?

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sean33:

morning

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hexoroid:

morning sean33

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sean33:

how are things progressing hex ?

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hexoroid:

bad

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hexoroid:

heheh

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hexoroid:

well i got everything figured out for some reason it says its failing to laod tuner, tveeprom

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hexoroid:

i think it has something to to with aliasing in /etc/modprobe.conf

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sean33:

yea dunno sounds strange to me

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hexoroid:

its not loading tuner

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sean33:

do a lsmod and put it in paste.bin

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sean33:

maybe dmesg as well may give some clues

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hexoroid:

second

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hexoroid:

http://pastebin.com/599546

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hexoroid:

and as you can see the eetvprom module was not even loaded

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hexoroid:

when i typed in lsmod

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sean33:

im having a look hang 5

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hexoroid:

then i started looking at this http://ivtvdriver.org/trac/ticket/80 the last post that this guy wrote 2006-February/001570.html

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hexoroid:

but whenever i add those aliases in modprobe.conf and do modules-update those alias lines that i put in there disappear from modprobe.conf wierd

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sean33:

yea that is strange but i dont use your distro so umm its a little difficult for me to put my finger on the problem

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hexoroid:

yeah

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hexoroid:

but when i do modprobe eetvprom

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hexoroid:

it loads up

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sean33:

you havent got tveeprom module ?

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hexoroid:

naked ~ # modprobe tveeprom

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hexoroid:

naked ~ #

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hexoroid:

tveeprom 13740 0

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hexoroid:

so it loeas up

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sean33:

ok now rmmod ivtv

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sean33:

and load up ivtv again "modprobe ivtv

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hexoroid:

same message

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sean33:

check your dmesg

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hexoroid:

ivtv1: Failed to load module tveeprom

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hexoroid:

ivtv1: Failed to load module tuner

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hexoroid:

ivtv1: Failed to load module saa7115

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sean33:

ok

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sean33:

rmmod ivtv

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hexoroid:

done

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sean33:

modprobe tunner

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hexoroid:

done

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sean33:

modprobe ivtv

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sean33:

check dmesg

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sean33:

its probabaly you load sequence

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hexoroid:

same now i got

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hexoroid:

couple more

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hexoroid:

ivtv1: Failed to load module msp3400

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hexoroid:

ivtv1: Failed to load module tda9887

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sean33:

ok yep

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hexoroid:

naked log # modprobe msp3400

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hexoroid:

naked log # modprobe tda9887

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hexoroid:

naked log # modprobe saa7115

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hexoroid:

naked log # modprobe ivtv

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hexoroid:

naked log #

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sean33:

ok umm hang 5

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hexoroid:

but it still keeps saying that it failed to load all of those

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sean33:

http://pastebin.com/599569

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sean33:

look at http://pastebin.com/599569

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sean33:

i have put in my load order

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sean33:

unload the modules first have a go at this order and see what dmesg you get

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hexoroid:

ok

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hexoroid:

done

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sean33:

better ?

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hexoroid:

no luck

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hexoroid:

sean33, check this http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/archive/o_t/t . . . channel.html

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Caveman:

has anyone got a link to the project graham and retro themes for 0.19 handy?

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Caveman:

dw, mythtvtalk forum was running slow but is usable now

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Hoxzer:

somebody here uses Mythtv 0.19-fixes (svn) and has got EIT work?

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_athen:

Hoxzer: are u using a ff or budget card?

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Hoxzer:

_athen: I dont really know but it is Terratec Cinergy 1200 DVB-C

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Hoxzer:

at least I got some EPG to work last time

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sean33:

does nvidia option TVOverScan not work with some tv out chipsets ?

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Hoxzer:

sean33: it is only supported on gf4 or newer

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Hoxzer:

at least that is what I heard from nvidia

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sean33:

oh ok that explains it

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Hoxzer:

but you can set it up in nvtv

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sean33:

i dont have nvtv

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Hoxzer:

why not install it?

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sean33:

yea doing a package search for it now

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Hoxzer:

k

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Hoxzer:

you may have to adjust gui size for mythtv

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sean33:

do you know off hand if there is a rpm for fedora ?

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Hoxzer:

I have only used debian based distros

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Hoxzer:

but I think so

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sean33:

hmmm seems the volume control only controls volume to the front speakers any idea how to fix that ?

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sean33:

adjust the master volume rather than the PCM ?

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Hoxzer:

I need to think now...

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Hoxzer:

do you guys have any idea what could try to get EPG work?

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laga:

what capture card?

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Hoxzer:

Terratec Cinergy 1200 DVB-C

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Hoxzer:

it has worked fine in the last install

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laga:

try dvb-eit

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Hoxzer:

laga: is that a program?

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Hoxzer:

or do you mean feature in mythtv?

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laga:

that's one of the features of mythtv

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Hoxzer:

I compiled with --enable-dvb-eit

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laga:

did you enable it for your channels? something like 'use on air guide' in the channel setup

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Hoxzer:

waiit a sec

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Hoxzer:

do you mean the one video sources?

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laga:

no, the channel editor

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Hoxzer:

wait 10mins

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Caveman:

Has anyone here hit the db_* environment error in MythWeb when upgrading to 0.19?

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laga:

are you sure that you've set up everything correctly and edited the right files?

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Hoxzer:

laga: where should it be there? ;/

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laga:

Hoxzer: sorry, it's located under video sources

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Hoxzer:

:D

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Hoxzer:

Yeah, I have tick it

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Juski:

Hoxzer: you have to tick the 'useonairguide' box for every channel in the channel editor too, IIRC

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Hoxzer:

I didn't see anything like that

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bio_:

wohoo, changing graphics card finally gave me twinview

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bio_:

<-- happy :)

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Hoxzer:

Juski: all I see in the channel editor options for singel channel is somehting like: channel name, channel number, "nick name", visible, ad free, video source, TV format, importance, icon, video filters, play filters, XMLTV ID:,

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Juski:

oh right. maybe it was removed for 0.19 then

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bio_:

juski: 2006-03–13 10:51:10.649 Channel::GetCurrentChannelNum(S12): Failed to find Channel 'S12' <-- what could be reason for that?

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bio_:

at first i thought weak signal (that it has) but then i remembered it switches channel even without a cable connected at all

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Hoxzer:

the worst thing in this is I really dunno what doesn't work

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Hoxzer:

like I dont see anything in EPG ok, EPG doesn't work but what is the reason

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Beirdo:

stupid network dumped me and then Nickserv was gone. so nice

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Hoxzer:

everything should be fine

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bio_:

is there a possibility to assign recordings to specific tuner-cards? 2 shows starting at the same time and i have 2 tuner cards, one with good quality and would like one show recorded with the good quality card

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hexoroid:

hey bio_ you there ?

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sean33:

how do i get rid of the mouse cusor ?

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Baylink:

Set it to a cursor with a blank alpha map. I believe that's the only way.

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sean33:

i still have an issue with the volume control , seems to only control the front 2 channels

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sean33:

anyone use usb gameport adaptow with linux ?

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ericmoritz:

I think I'm missing something about what the mythvideo plugin does

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maqe:

im having a problem with live tv. my frontend freezez after a while and sometime i get seg fault messages. Im using dvb card for capturing and have a bit love signal strength if i could believe myth. Is there a workaround for this or should i wait for next release?

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Merlin83b2:

maqe: Hauppauge Nova-T by any chance?

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sean33:

maqe are you using logfile option on the fronend ?

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Merlin83b2:

ericmoritz: It lets you play stuff you download or rip, basically.

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maqe:

Merlin83b2: no im using twinhan dvb-t

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ericmoritz:

I dumped some avi's in the directory that mythvideo is set to but I don't seem them

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maqe:

Merlin83b2: same kind of problem?

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ericmoritz:

is there a step I'm missing?

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Merlin83b2:

maqe: Fair enough. There is quite a bit of work going on to the DVB stuff right now.

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sean33:

i had lockups when actualy specifying a logfile for the front end , as soon as i remove that option its fine

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hexoroid:

anybody sees on lspci your card 2 times ?

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maqe:

Merlin83b2: okay that sounds nice... no workaround for this right now?

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Merlin83b2:

maqe: I'd just put up with it and wait – you're in better shape than I am – currently trying various SVN versions to find one that at least partially works!

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maqe:

Merlin83b2: Ok good look then

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maqe:

luck

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maqe:

:)

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hexoroid:

anybody got Hauppauge 150 ?

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maqe:

sean33: yes im using logfile for my frontend, i will try without and se if it works better?

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maqe:

sean33: what capture device are you using?

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hexoroid:

naked ~ # dmesg | grep -i irq | grep -i disabl

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hexoroid:

ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKE] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled.

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hexoroid:

Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 4 ports, IRQ sharing disabled

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hexoroid:

could this be the problem because my tuner is not working ?

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sean33:

hex no thats not the problem

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hexoroid:

hmmm

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hexoroid:

what does yoru output look like ?

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sean33:

thats only ACPI

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sean33:

power management interface i think

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sean33:

and its totaly unrelated

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hexoroid:

oh

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drdaz:

oO weirdness... I'd been having issues with ChromakeyOSD and stuttering... I enabled DRI loading in xorg.conf and it fixes the issue. The thing that's weird about it is that I'm using nvidia's binary driver (7676) which usually means DRI = puke...

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drdaz:

confused I am

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crayzee:

When I watch some DVB-T programs, they are not fullscreen (most notably "Family Guy") – I presume they are broadcast at lower res, but they are not scaled to fullscreen. Is there a way to fix this (in 0.18?)?

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drdaz:

there is a playback menu option called Change Aspect Ratio

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drdaz:

one of the options in there will likely do it

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Merlin83b2:

crayzee: I take it you don't mean the difference between 4:3 and 16:9?

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crayzee:

No

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crayzee:

Merlin83b, there is a large black border around all sides

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Merlin83b2:

THen you may need to look into overscan?

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crayzee:

(Im talking like 640x480 in the middle of a 1024x768 screen

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Merlin83b2:

Oh, now that's not goo.d

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Merlin83b2:

Never seen it, sorry.

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crayzee:

Merlin83b, for most programs it is fine, and for the adverts it is fine, its only the program itself

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drdaz:

oO

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juski:

crayzee: the mode you'd be looking for is 'fill' – it stretches a 4:3 aspect stream to fill a 16:9 display

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laga:

what would i choose if i'd want to make a 16:9 movie fill my 4:3 display?

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stuarta:

afternoon all...

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crayzee:

juski: I believe that it is 4:3 and my monitor is 4:3. What I get is a 640x480 box with video, surrounded by black, in the middle of a 1024x768 screen.

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crayzee:

Actually I think the last res is 1280x1024. Not that it matters.

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stuarta:

laga: 16:9 zoom

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coffee88:

laga: skinny actors?

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juski:

crayzee: fill mode should do the trick. try using the W key to change aspect in playback

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laga:

stuarta: thanks

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laga:

coffee88: huh?

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coffee88:

Ignore me. I just don't like staring at skinny people on some zoom/stretch modes...

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laga:

heh ;)

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a1fa:

lol

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juski:

I have a 16:9 TV. I have a DVD which is 4:3 but contains 16:9 content, so I end up with black bars down the sides, and within that, horizontal bars at the top & bottom of the inner 4:3 box :-/

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** a1fa still wasnt able to get xbmc to work with svn muythtv **

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laga:

and i don't like it when only half of my display is used, it's a little bit hard on the eyes

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a1fa:

juski : any luck?

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juski:

plasma owners don't like it much either – it wears their panels unevenly :-D

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** juski has no sympathy for peeps with more money than sense ;-) **

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coffee88:

laga: True. But trying to watch someof our holiday vids at 16:9 just doesn't seem right...

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juski:

a1fa: watching recordings is fine, but I think XBMC simply runs out of memory loading the programme guide

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coffee88:

The gf always complains she looks fat...

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juski:

making other women look fat in 'stretchy vision' increases the WAF ;-)

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coffee88:

lol

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Merlin83b2:

Wifely Acceptance Factor?

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juski:

aye

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Merlin83b2:

Heh.

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juski:

though mine might go beserk tonight when I get home. got sent on an errand to collect a company car from the dealer... used by one of the purchasing dept... I now smell like a perfume counter cos of the damn seatbelt (eep!)

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Merlin83b2:

Hehe

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a1fa:

juski : i cant connect to smb share for some reason

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Merlin83b2:

Suuuuuurrrrre that's the reason.

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coffee88:

did you take the long way back?

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stuarta:

best excuse I've head...

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crayzee:

Ahhhhhhhh! well done juski!

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juski:

lol

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stuarta:

heard even

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juski:

as if... I'm not worthy of she who wears Prada to work

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juski:

some people must get paid too much

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a1fa:

i bought an xbox, and I dont even use it now

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a1fa:

:P

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juski:

a1fa: works great for watching recorded shows, so I can't complain

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a1fa:

juski : my coworker wears prada :P

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a1fa:

juski : when i go to recorded shows

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a1fa:

it doesnt show anything

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** juski can't even afford a prada price-tag **

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a1fa:

juski : sure you can.. ebay

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a1fa:

people sell brand new stuff for dirt cheap

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juski:

.. which is just aswell perhaps.. I don't wanna look like some mullet-haired fashionista

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a1fa:

ahhaa

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juski:

a1fa: yeh AFAIK we were running the same versions

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juski:

and you said you had it working

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juski:

I moaned when I got it working that it wasn't deinterlacing the video & I couldn't find the option to enable it

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juski:

turned out they've moved it to the OSD menu :-/ (thanks for putting that in the changelog, O l337 w@r3z merchants)

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donour:

hi all

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juski:

hi donour

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donour:

is the 0.19 frontend known to build on intel OS X?

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stuarta:

YMMV

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Merlin83b2:

donour: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/177537

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juski:

don't know – possibly not but there's been some traffic about the subject on the users list

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donour:

then i take that as a yes, _somebody_ built it. :)

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stuarta:

people have been committing fixes to make it work...

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donour:

fixes to the head tree or patches to 0.19?

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stuarta:

head atm.

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juski:

ee there's an interesting thread I've been following on the LQML today.. asking why tzap always locks & myth doesn't always lock

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donour:

stuarta: thanks. i'll have a look

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stuarta:

there's a post on -dev talking about how tzap/scan etc have a 200ms delay after sending a tune request.

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juski:

more traffic about it on the users list too. though how it can take the driver 200ms to tune is beyond me

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Merlin83b2:

stuarta: Recent SVNs crash BE on tuning for me, I've rolled back a bunch of revisions.

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a1fa:

juski : everything works.. the guide works.. etc.. except

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Merlin83b2:

Somewhere between 9300 and 9310 the problem was introduced.

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a1fa:

juski : i cant watch any shows.. i dont think it connects to smb

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stuarta:

Merline83b2: interesting....

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juski:

a1fa: that'd bork it

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juski:

a1fa: see if you can browse to the directory you store recordings, with XBMC itself

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Merlin83b2:

Any channel change, including that to do EIT scanning triggered it, so BE would crash very shortly after starting up. Would there be benefit to me tracking down the exact revision or is that range of 10 enough to help?

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a1fa:

i'll do that tonight

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stuarta:

obviously a specific rev is best, but a range is a starting point.

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Merlin83b2:

Quite a small range. I can do more tracking it down work tomorrow. Best to do that and then post to -dev?

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a1fa:

juski : new version of xbmc came out

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stuarta:

that would be good. What's the range btw?

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juski:

a1fa: a new CVS build leaks out every day

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juski:

a1fa: each as dodgy as the rest. YMMV etc

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Merlin83b2:

stuarta: 9300 works, 9310 crashes.

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juski:

anyway – since XBMC is illegal I'll stop talking about it

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laga:

why is it illegal?

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stuarta:

okay: I'll have a look tonight when I get home

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juski:

well it's not strictly _illegal_ but you need stolen software to do a build

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a1fa:

xbmc is not illegal

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a1fa:

it is only illegal if you download it compiled

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Merlin83b2:

Nice one stuarta. Drop me a memo here or something to I know whether to carry on investigating tomorrow :-)

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juski:

duh

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a1fa:

because there is no opensource compiler

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a1fa:

i own a copy of msdn

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laga:

so you need the xbox sdk?

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a1fa:

so i compile it my self

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stuarta:

I'll be back in here in about 2hrs.

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greg__:

theres a difference between msdn and the xbox sdk

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a1fa:

greg__ it comes with it

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greg__:

you're also not allowed use the xbox sdk on homebrew software surely?

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juski:

laga: yes you need the xbox sdk, which isn't widely available

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Merlin83b2:

stuarta: I'll be out for the evening, but can pop back on at something like 10:30 – 11pm GMT.

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a1fa:

greg__ : :P

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a1fa:

well, you know what the problem is

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a1fa:

i can make a fish tank out of the xbxo

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a1fa:

so it is not illegal to run whatever i want on it

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juski:

tell that to the guy who got arrested for modifying boxes ;-)

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a1fa:

it literally boils down to that

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a1fa:

who got arrested?

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a1fa:

did you sell them?

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a1fa:

there is no legal ground for them to arrest you

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sean33:

NVP: Prebuffer wait timed out 10 times. anyone know what this means ?

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armand:

that guy who got arrested was also providing games on the modified xbox — a dumb move.

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juski:

you don't own software anymore – just buy the right to use it for a limited time. game hardware is about the same

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a1fa:

there you go

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a1fa:

nahh

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a1fa:

eee

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a1fa:

soon you wont be able to own pets

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a1fa:

but only care for them

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a1fa:

that is bullshit

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a1fa:

i pay $200

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juski:

anyway there's no point whining about how sucky XBMC is... it just sucks because the people who write for it are all 0utl@w5

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armand:

you can do whatever you want to the hardware, you just void your warranty when you break that little seal

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a1fa:

armand : true

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kormoc:

armand, depends. Some places lease you the hardware, you need to return it to them after your lease is over.

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a1fa:

when microsoft goes public and says

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armand:

kormoc: but then you dont own it

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a1fa:

"xbmc is illegal because such and such

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a1fa:

i will stop using it, only if it is justified by the law

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kormoc:

armand, correct

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a1fa:

and afaik, there is no law that says you cant make a fish tank out of your xbox

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kormoc:

armand, but you did 'buy' it in the eyes of most people who do it

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armand:

kormoc: yes, an xbox purchased from the store, is owned by you.

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armand:

microsoft or walmart cannot come in your house and take it away because you did bad with it

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a1fa:

its like you go out and buy a computer

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a1fa:

and you can only run microsoft windows on it

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a1fa:

what kind of bullshit is that

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armand:

right, you can run whatever you want on it, you just wont get support

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a1fa:

its like buying a toy car.. you can play with it, but you can also showe it up your ass

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armand:

err.

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juski:

when (not if) mpeg patents ruin linux media players, we're all doomed

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a1fa:

its like anything

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a1fa:

you buy headphones, but you dont use them

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armand:

juski: you mean like divx? *cough* xvid :)

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a1fa:

hehe

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a1fa:

:P

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a1fa:

.disable.logging

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a1fa:

cough couch

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juski:

divx.. lol

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armand:

if something happens to where playing mpeg is 'illegal' in linux, people will adapt and use a different format instead

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armand:

look at what happened to realvideo.

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juski:

why won't we just be able to stump up $0.10 or whatever though? I don't care whether it's all open source or not. i just want it to _work_ and keep on working

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armand:

a codec should be free, im not paying anything lol

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juski:

I'm not using mythtv cos it's 'free'.. I use it cos MCE & the rest were PoS

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armand:

if they want 10cents from me so i can play mpeg, they can eat a dick

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a1fa:

real video is crap

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coffee88_:

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armand:

pardon my french

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a1fa:

i'd pay dick for a lifetime license.

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Merlin83b2:

If the licensing wasn't crap I'd be happy to pay.

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juski:

if you own a DVD player you've already paid MPEG, dolby labs & Macrovision

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a1fa:

fsck gif, ra, jpeg, and if need be, mpeg

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Merlin83b2:

Good point, juski :-)

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armand:

then since i purcahsed a pvr i already paid mpeg then

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Merlin83b2:

For use in that PVR.

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juski:

only for encoding :-P

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armand:

unless its a 350?

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juski:

a what? ;-)

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armand:

you said only for encoding

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coffee88_:

so if you use unichrome, you're covered?

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coffee88_:

with a nova-T

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juski:

probably

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armand:

since a 350 encodes and decodes, would assume i have the capability to encode and also playback mpeg, since i paid the license eh?

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armand:

if such a thing even exists, lol

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juski:

it's an ass, all this innit?

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coffee88_:

yup

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armand:

<-- doesnt care heh

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armand:

if some crazy licenseing scheme comes out where you have to pay for the privledge of playing mpeg, something else will come along and take its place

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armand:

so im not worried. happened before. it'll happen again.

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coffee88_:

but then you'd persumably still have to pay to trascode all your old stuff, or buy it again....

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coffee88_:

traNscode

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armand:

what if hardware changes to 'hardware xvid encoding'

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armand:

translating raw stream into xvid on the fly, who knows, in the future :)

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juski:

I'll stop watching TV on grounds of it being poor quality ;-)

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armand:

xvid is nice if you have the power

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armand:

but yes, its compressed, i know, was just a 'what if'

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** coffee88_ hears Clarkson **

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armand:

like your 'what if' about licenseing mpeg lol ;)

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a1fa:

armand : i have enough power :P

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a1fa:

AMD64 3200+, 700MB Ram

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a1fa:

should be suffiecient

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a1fa:

i can upgrade to 4Gs

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juski:

compress HDTV to xvid on the fly – I dares ya

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armand:

lol, not for converting raw data scream into xvid on the fly it isnt

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armand:

*stream

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a1fa:

and have a 200GB swap disk running at 10K SATA

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a1fa:

i think it should be sufficient

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juski:

one of them with the poncy plastic window too?

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armand:

youre thinking wrong

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armand:

because its not possible.

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armand:

with that setup anyway heh

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a1fa:

hehe

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a1fa:

ok

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a1fa:

then i will get dual core x dual cpu

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a1fa:

with 1TB of memory

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a1fa:

maybe that will do it?

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hexoroid:

FATAL: Error inserting ivtv (/lib/modules/2.6.14-gentoo-r5/kernel/drivers/media/video/ivtv.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)

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armand:

still wouldnt be possible, transcoding isnt multithreaded

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hexoroid:

thats wierd

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a1fa:

hexoroid : did you compile it?

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juski:

hexoroid: see your dmesg output then

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a1fa:

armand : god damn you :P

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hexoroid:

a1fa, all i see is this

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hexoroid:

vtv: Unknown symbol video_unregister_device

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hexoroid:

ivtv: Unknown symbol video_device_alloc

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hexoroid:

ivtv: Unknown symbol video_register_device

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hexoroid:

and so on..

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juski:

been compiled with the right kernel headers?

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hexoroid:

yeah make & make install

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kormoc:

hexoroid, that doesn't mean it's the correct headers

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armand:

hehe

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a1fa:

hexoroid : you either didnt compile it right

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hexoroid:

hmm

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kormoc:

hexoroid, do you have bttv enabled as a module in your kernel?

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hexoroid:

nope

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kormoc:

you might want to enable that, as that's the only way to have the v4l support in ther kernel iirc

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hexoroid:

how am i gonna enable it

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hexoroid:

modprobe bttv ?

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juski:

and enable module unloading etc..

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juski:

hexoroid: edit your kernel .config or use make menuconfig

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juski:

back to Gentoo 101 ;-)

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hexoroid:

where is bttv support at ?

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hexoroid:

i thought i didnt need bttv

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juski:

oh yeah – this is when the penny drops that genkernel doesn't cut it for some things

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armand:

hehehe

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armand:

genkernel sucks

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juski:

devices drivers > multimedia > v4l

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juski:

I think it's unfair to say genkernel sucks – it's more that it's less configurable than a hand-made kernel config

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hexoroid:

juski, i already have that

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hexoroid:

as <M>

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armand:

im biased, just used to doing it the old-fashioned-way

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juski:

hexoroid: yes, but bttv device configuration is in there

[17:47:39]

hexoroid:

< > BT848 Video For Linux

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hexoroid:

that ?

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kormoc:

hexoroid, yes, that

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hexoroid:

on their website they said you wouldnt need this so i dont know why i need it ?

[17:48:47]

hexoroid:

can you explain..

[17:48:47]

kormoc:

hexoroid, you see, sometimes the kernel is too smart for it's own good. without it building a v4l driver, it doesn't build in the v4l hooks ivtv needs.

[17:49:54]

hexoroid:

so i should <M> this ?

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kormoc:

yup

[17:50:26]

hexoroid:

well i was just following their website and they said dont put nothing in video for linux and radio adapters

[17:50:46]

hexoroid:

they said to leave

[17:50:46]

hexoroid:

Video For Linux ---> ? ?

[17:50:47]

hexoroid:

? ? Radio Adapters --->

[17:50:49]

hexoroid:

those to empty

[17:50:52]

hexoroid:

but ill give it a try

[17:51:27]

kormoc:

also, certain versions of ivtv use bttv's tuner module, so that would also make it a requirement to build

[17:51:40]

hexoroid:

i guess

[17:52:03]

armand:

also, in 2.6.16 its required for the bttv support

[17:52:10]

armand:

2.6.15 and lower doesnt need it

[17:52:18]

armand:

i forget exactly why though heh

[17:52:25]

hexoroid:

i run 2.6.14

[17:52:34]

armand:

mmmmk, interesting

[17:52:54]

** juski wonders what the latest 'stable' version of ivtv is... **

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hexoroid:

so then i dont need it

[17:53:27]

hexoroid:

heh

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armand:

oh, it was 2.6.15+ 2.6.14- didnt need it

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armand:

least, not on my setup with a pair of pvr250's

[17:56:28]

juski:

quittin time again (woohoo)

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juski:

ahem

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juski:

ffs!

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armand:

what the heck

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hexoroid:

wonder why is it giving me that message

[17:57:54]

kormoc:

hexoroid, what messgae?

[17:58:06]

hexoroid:

naked ~ # modprobe ivtv

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hexoroid:

FATAL: Error inserting ivtv (/lib/modules/2.6.14-gentoo-r5/kernel/drivers/media/video/ivtv.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)

[17:58:21]

kormoc:

did you compile bttv?

[17:58:27]

hexoroid:

no

[17:58:30]

kormoc:

why not?

[17:58:36]

hexoroid:

because i use kernel 2.6.14

[17:58:38]

kormoc:

so?

[17:58:47]

kormoc:

I use 2,6,14 and it's required for mine

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hexoroid:

i thought you guys just said i dont need it if i am running that kernel ?

[17:58:59]

hexoroid:

komorc what card are you running

[17:59:07]

kormoc:

no, armand said that, not myself

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kormoc:

hexoroid, a m-179, which is a 250 rebranded, but that doesn't matter, all ivtv cards use the same driver

[17:59:36]

hexoroid:

ok ill try what you say

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armand:

yeah i dont remember why 2.6.15 required it but 14 didnt

[18:00:01]

armand:

it was a while ago i ran into the problem

[18:00:19]

kormoc:

armand, .14 requires it for myself

[18:01:07]

kormoc:

armand, infact it's been a steady requirement from when I first got my card at 2.6.4 and onwards

[18:01:21]

armand:

just checked my backend, running kernel doesnt have it enabled in its .config

[18:01:34]

kormoc:

what version kernel and itvtv?

[18:01:41]

hexoroid:

kormoc, on kernel 2.6.* all i need to do make & make modules

[18:01:41]

armand:

2.6.14 and 0.4.2

[18:01:46]

hexoroid:

i think ?

[18:01:56]

kormoc:

hexoroid, that should be enough, yes

[18:02:19]

armand:

now some fague memory is coming back, in 2.6.15+ the ivtv tuner module is included in the kernel source

[18:02:38]

kormoc:

armand, huh, I'm running 0.4.0 and 2.6.14, but I was rather sure 0.4.2 used the in kernel tuner.ko that bttv provides

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armand:

it does if you're useing kernel 2.6.15

[18:03:04]

armand:

cool, that fague memory was right then heh

[18:03:36]

armand:

i have to set my tuner types manually because my cards are older and arent auto-detected — i reverted back to .14 because everything i was passing in modules.conf was getting ignored no matter what i tried

[18:03:40]

armand:

so my tuner wasnt changing channels

[18:04:18]

armand:

tuner.ko in 2.6.15 is supposedly the ivtv tuner.ko, but it ignored setting tuner type. was annoying

[18:04:36]

kormoc:

armand, http://dl.ivtvdriver.org/ivtv/stable/ChangeLog : "0.4.3 : Build the tuner modules for 2.6.15"

[18:04:47]

kormoc:

armand, so it should only do that for 0.4.3

[18:05:20]

armand:

0.4.3 just added those tuners

[18:05:24]

armand:

it was done in 0.4.2

[18:06:18]

armand:

but really its not ivtv, its the kernel version. if you're building ivtv and it sees 2.6.15 headers it doesnt compile tuner.ko

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armand:

the annoying part was i couldnt manually set the tuner type for this magical-kernel-included-tuner.ko

[18:07:41]

armand:

it just ignored everything from modules.conf heh

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kormoc:

huh

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dtm:

hi guys. i migrated mythconverg from mysql 3 on one host to mysql 4 on another host. i did 'mysqldump --opt mythconverg > mythconverg.db' to back it up, then "cat mythconverg.db | sed -e 's,oldhostname,newhostname,g' > mythconverg2.db", then on the new host created the mythtv user and mythconverg db, then 'mysql -u mythtv mythconverg < mythconverg2.db'

[18:15:13]

kormoc:

armand, you see, at first ivtv didn't have a tuner.ko, they only added it when the 150/500 came out and they wanted to get it stable and port the fixes back to the kernel's tuner.ko, it seems odd that they havn't done that yet.

[18:15:49]

dtm:

and on the backend in ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt, i put LocalHostName=newhostname

[18:15:54]

dtm:

is there anything else i must do?

[18:16:00]

dtm:

kormoc: hi

[18:16:38]

dtm:

i'm also upgrading from mythtv 0.18.1 to 0.19

[18:16:55]

armand:

kormoc: ive been useing ivtv's provided tuner module for over a year now hehe

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armand:

kormoc: only thing compiled in my kernel is v4l support

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hexoroid:

back

[18:17:33]

hexoroid:

kormoc,

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hexoroid:

i dont have that error anymore

[18:18:09]

hexoroid:

but now i have

[18:18:10]

hexoroid:

ivtv0: Failed to load module tuner

[18:18:10]

hexoroid:

ivtv0: Failed to load module saa7115

[18:18:29]

kormoc:

hexoroid, check dmesg for what the errors were.

[18:18:35]

kormoc:

dtm, hihi

[18:18:40]

dtm:

hiiiiiiiiii

[18:18:45]

hexoroid:

komorc

[18:18:46]

hexoroid:

i just did

[18:18:52]

kormoc:

armand, that's just odd *shrug*

[18:18:58]

hexoroid:

that is from the dmesg

[18:19:14]

hexoroid:

i did dmesg | grep ivtv

[18:19:15]

kormoc:

hexoroid, "modprobe tuner" and see what error it gives

[18:19:19]

kormoc:

you don't want to do that

[18:19:33]

kormoc:

hexoroid, those won't always have ivtv in the line

[18:19:37]

hexoroid:

naked hex # modprobe tuner

[18:19:37]

hexoroid:

naked hex #

[18:19:42]

** xris wonders if GreyFoxx is awake **

[18:19:56]

hexoroid:

ner 0–0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (ivtv i2c driver #0)

[18:19:56]

hexoroid:

ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=(tuner unset), addr=61]

[18:19:56]

hexoroid:

tuner 1–0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (ivtv i2c driver #1)

[18:19:56]

hexoroid:

ivtv1: i2c attach to card #1 ok [client=(tuner unset), addr=61]

[18:19:58]

hexoroid:

is that ok ?

[18:20:13]

kormoc:

seems to, aye

[18:20:35]

armand:

except for the unset tuner, if you have problems changing channels you know whast up

[18:20:36]

hexoroid:

wierd

[18:20:47]

hexoroid:

what about those other files ?

[18:20:55]

hexoroid:

tveeprom ?

[18:21:04]

hexoroid:

it failed to load that too

[18:21:08]

hexoroid:

saa7115

[18:21:13]

hexoroid:

msp3400

[18:21:17]

hexoroid:

tda9887 also :)

[18:21:20]

kormoc:

wow

[18:21:33]

armand:

you're going to need those, and stuff

[18:21:49]

hexoroid:

i dont even know what they are for

[18:21:49]

hexoroid:

heh

[18:21:51]

kormoc:

you sure you have Automatic Kernel Module Loading enabled?

[18:22:05]

hexoroid:

what do you mean by automatic ?

[18:22:09]

hexoroid:

to put those to load on startup ?

[18:22:10]

hexoroid:

or..

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hexoroid:

those modules..

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kormoc:

it's a kernel option

[18:22:28]

kormoc:

in make menuconfig, Loadable module support -> Enable loadable module support

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hexoroid:

let me check

[18:22:58]

dtm:

kormoc: do you concur with my db migration notes so far?

[18:23:00]

dtm:

as stated above

[18:23:07]

kormoc:

dtm, sure, seems to be correct

[18:23:13]

dtm:

s w e e t

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hexoroid:

[*] Enable loadable module support

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hexoroid:

yep i do

[18:23:27]

dtm:

so far it's working with the frontend finding my recording history.

[18:23:48]

dtm:

kormoc: ok so how do i reconfigure the backend to use tcpip for mysql instead of a socket?

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dtm:

kormoc: and why the heck is the mysql conf in ~dtm/.mythtv/mysql.txt rather than in some systemwide conf file?

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armand:

/etc/mythtv is a systemweb conf directory ;p

[18:25:32]

armand:

er, systemide

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armand:

systemwide wtf

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armand:

^%!@! ;/

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dtm:

armand: k

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hexoroid:

kormoc, even tho those modules are loaded tuner and stuff

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dtm:

that doesn't exist!

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hexoroid:

when i do rmmod ivtv

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armand:

you can make it exist!

[18:28:49]

armand:

bring it into the light!

[18:28:49]

hexoroid:

it still says ivtv0: Failed to load module tveeprom

[18:28:49]

hexoroid:

ivtv0: Failed to load module tuner

[18:28:49]

hexoroid:

ivtv0: Failed to load module saa7115

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dtm:

AND I SHALLA

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dtm:

s/LA/L/

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armand:

amen brotha!

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dtm:

armand: so that dir needs to be owned by mythtv?

[18:30:03]

dtm:

oh whoops. i had always run my mythbackend as root.

[18:30:17]

armand:

doesnt have to be, but if you want a mythtv uid to be able to read it it should at least be 744

[18:30:41]

dtm:

okay so how do i set mythbackend's mysql access to be tcpip and not a socket

[18:31:08]

armand:

in mythtv-setup you can specify a mysql ip no?

[18:31:10]

dtm:

Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (2)

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xris:

dtm: if you're running on the same host, mysql uses the socket if it can

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dtm:

not same host

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dtm:

as per /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt

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dtm:

as of yesterday

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kormoc:

dtm, ooh, check the ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt file as well

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dtm:

yeah same

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dtm:

i moved ~/.mythtv/* to /etc/mythtv/

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dtm:

gone now is ~/.mythtv/* !

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armand:

yeah i dont remember the order exactly, but it'll look for ./mysql.txt ~./mythtv/mysql.txt and /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt

[18:34:02]

armand:

in some sort of order that i cant rmember haha.

[18:34:21]

armand:

for mythbackend though i think you need to make sure mythtv-setup is set properly

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kormoc:

dtm, you can connect via the command line?

[18:35:02]

dtm:

kormoc: yes. it's not trying to, though. it's trying via socket. i'll hafta set up enough X to be able to run mythtv-config via the network :-/

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dtm:

unless you can tell me how to reconfigure that manually

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dtm:

i suppose it's set to do socket only, not tcpip

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dtm:

i am guessing

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kormoc:

dtm, put in the ip of the mysql server and that should force tcp/ip

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dtm:

kormoc: it didn't.

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kormoc:

hrm

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kormoc:

that doesn't make sense

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dtm:

k

[18:38:26]

dtm:

what would mythtv-setup do in this respect, other than rewrite /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt ?

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armand:

cd to /etc/mythtv and try starting mythbackend manually

[18:38:47]

dtm:

same

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armand:

./mysql.txt is the first place it looks at iirc

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kormoc:

dtm, mythsetup edits ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt

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armand:

hrm

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dtm:

i symlinked /etc/mythtv/* to ~/.mythtv/

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dtm:

does the rc script need to be updated when going from 0.18.1 to 0.19?

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dtm:

coz i'm also doing that

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kormoc:

is the backend even attempting to connect to the proper ip/host?

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dtm:

IT'S WORKIN

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dtm:

upgrading

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dtm:

i'm sorry; .... it wasn't trying the socket file. it wasn't even updating the log file at all. i wasn't looking closely enough at the timestamps. it was just immediately dying.

[18:44:47]

armand:

lol.

[18:44:49]

armand:

fool.

[18:44:54]

dtm:

:-.

[18:45:06]

kormoc:

...

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kormoc:

armand, be nice...

[18:45:16]

dtm:

^_^

[18:45:25]

armand:

;/

[18:45:34]

dtm:

lol

[18:46:05]

armand:

guess i'll go get lunch now ;p

[18:46:21]

dtm:

is there any time when it's unsafe to kill mythbackend?

[18:46:29]

dtm:

anything it can't gracefully recover from

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dtm:

on 0.19

[18:46:41]

dtm:

the log says it's running houeskeeping.

[18:47:04]

kormoc:

dtm, I would wait till it's idle

[18:47:10]

dtm:

yeah.

[18:47:25]

armand:

it will run housekeeping every 5 minutes

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dtm:

oh my.

[18:47:57]

armand:

kill -TERM is usually a nice way to shut things down, if they respond to term

[18:48:32]

laga:

what does 'housekeeping' in terms of mythtv actually mean?

[18:48:48]

armand:

looking for expired and checking diskspace

[18:48:58]

laga:

oh, thanks

[18:49:12]

coffee88_:

anyone have a suggestion for an mp3 tag editor that doesn't assign everything suddenly to album "music"

[18:52:46]

dtm:

okay NOW it's saying it's trying to get it from the socket .. but it's where i run the rc file. if i run mythbackend directly, it's fine.

[18:55:24]

dtm:

dissecting the command..

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stuarta:

coffee88_: easytag

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kormoc:

coffee88_, musicbainz if are able to deal with wine fine, or vmware/windows

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coffee88_:

ta. I have a windows box or two left... I'll check it out. (ducks)

[19:01:26]

stuarta:

easytag runs on linux :-P

[19:01:33]

kormoc:

coffee88_, musicbrainz.org

[19:01:53]

kormoc:

musicbrainz is nice as it 'listens' to the music and can auto tag if it's x% sure of a match

[19:01:53]

coffee88_:

stuarta: sorry, missed your suggestion. I'll check that out first!

[19:02:04]

stuarta:

np

[19:02:43]

rsquared:

is there a way to stream musc from mythmusic?

[19:02:56]

stuarta:

not yet.

[19:03:08]

rsquared:

damn

[19:03:19]

rsquared:

i actually meant from mythweb

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rsquared:

heh

[19:03:23]

rsquared:

damn mondays

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kormoc:

same answer bout mythweb :P

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stuarta:

then the answer is just 'no' :)

[19:03:39]

Juski:

musicbrainz?

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rsquared:

figured

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** Juski goes to look **

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Juski:

been using mediamonkey up til now & found it very handy apart from its hit & miss album art downloads

[19:06:19]

** coffee88_ adds another to the lsit to check out... **

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dtm:

kormoc: the rc script is running '/usr/local/bin/mythbackend -d -l /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log' as root. if i run that under sudo on the command line, it seems to work fine. if i run the rc script, it complains about mysql's socket and dies.

[19:09:17]

dtm:

kormoc: that would seem to indicate that the only difference is the environment

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hexoroid:

how can check if card works when i setup ivtv ?

[19:09:25]

dtm:

hexoroid: mplayer

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dtm:

kormoc: the environment variables

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hexoroid:

but you can not see the channels over mplayer ?

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hexoroid:

or mplayer /dev/video0

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hexoroid:

damn kormoc i still didnt get my card to work :D

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coffee88_:

Juski: just how much of a pita is making your own small pcbs?

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k0da:

hi all

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k0da:

i have a proble some obdy can help me with this?

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k0da:

2006-03–13 22:29:36.059 Unable to connect to database!

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k0da:

2006-03–13 22:29:36.059 Driver error was [1/1045]:

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Juski:

coffee88: not too much if you've got the gear

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Juski:

I just use stripboard for my prototyping

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coffee88_:

Juski: It's just the damn smt chips that are annoying for prototyping...

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Juski:

coffee88_: wot you using SMT for?

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a1fa:

'_'

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coffee88_:

going to play with dallas 1wire stuff. some of them are only available in smt...

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Juski:

coffee88_: you should be made aware of little handy things called 'adaptics' then

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coffee88_:

Juski: sounds ike I should... (goes to google...)

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Juski:

you can solder smt chips onto them & they bring pins out to DIL connections on a 0.1" spacing :D

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coffee88_:

Juski: sweet. They look more than useful.

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Filip:

Hi everybody,

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Filip:

IO seem to be missing something important in mythtv setup. When do you actually create a user for the database called 'mythtv' with pass 'mythtv', or is it OK to give myth the root pass?

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stuarta:

mythbackend accesses the database with a username/password

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stuarta:

it also generally runs under it own uid, which most people make the user myth for

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coffee88_:

Juski: I assume you get all you ned through work, but do you have a suggestion for a good uk "hobbiest" supplier for components?

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stuarta:

so it's two usernames/passwords.

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Filip:

so I forgot to create a linux user called mythtv with a pass?

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Filip:

Makes sense... back to the drawing board

[19:49:02]

Juski:

coffee88_: I like cpc.co.uk – cheaper than RS

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grant_:

exit

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coffee88_:

Juski: sweet. thanks again.

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** Beirdo yawns **

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** stuarta scratches **

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** kormoc just sits in soreness **

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Beirdo:

??

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stuarta:

must have piles...

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Beirdo:

sooo many off-color comments to be made

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stuarta:

:)

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kormoc:

Beirdo, snowboarding this weekend :P

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** mocker upgrades to RAID-5. **

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Beirdo:

ahh

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Beirdo:

OK, that would account for some soreness

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dtm:

can qt-mysql be configured to use socket files rather than tcpip to contact mysql?

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kormoc:

by default I beleive host based uses sockets if it can, and a ip uses tcp/ip if it can

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dtm:

kormoc: well what's the difference between the rc script and my command line

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dtm:

i updated my QTDIR

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dtm:

what else is there to it?

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dtm:

we're each executing the same command line.

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kormoc:

dtm, gentoo?

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dtm:

no, FC based

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kormoc:

donno then

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dtm:

backend is YDL4 and frontend is centos4.2

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dtm:

frontend and sql

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** Beirdo hits kormoc with a snowboard **

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laga:

!trout Beirdo

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** MythLogBot slaps Beirdo with a trout on behalf of laga... **

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Beirdo:

How goes, laga?

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scopeuk:

whats the de3al with slapping Beirdo?

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scopeuk:

every one does it

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Beirdo:

!trout scopeuk

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** MythLogBot slaps scopeuk with a trout on behalf of Beirdo... **

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laga:

scopeuk: he deserves it

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laga is now known as gardengnome

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scopeuk:

!trout gardengnome

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** MythLogBot slaps gardengnome with a trout on behalf of scopeuk... **

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gardengnome:

darn

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scopeuk:

lol

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scopeuk:

you should have had the gardengnome whould have been more entertaining

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** Beirdo raises an eyebrow at scopeuk **

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Beirdo:

you molesting the garden gnomes?

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scopeuk:

no im slapping it with a torout

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** Beirdo chucks a wireless mouse at gardengnome **

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** gardengnome sells it on ebay **

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Beirdo:

heh

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Juski:

rofl

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scopeuk:

i use to play a game like this with my friends added a load of insults to right click on suer list

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scopeuk:

something about /me runs down $nick wit ha shopping trolly

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gardengnome:

mirc user, huh?

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scopeuk:

o no ice chat

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gardengnome:

oh, k

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** coffee88_ wonders why the trout doesn't feature in Beirdo's irc faq..... **

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scopeuk:

the scriptign is very similar

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Beirdo:

meh

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scopeuk:

coffee88_ can you imagine the abuse if every one in here saw how to do it ;-P

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coffee88_:

They pick it up pretty quick.

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coffee88_:

I'm just still wondering when/how it all started....

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scopeuk:

yeh going off how its been abused greatly so far already

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scopeuk:

beirdo does it do faq or is it just here for fun

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Beirdo:

well, it logs the channel

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Beirdo:

!notice

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MythLogBot:

This channel (#mythtv-users) is logged — http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/ircLog/channel/1

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scopeuk:

so it has some use

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Beirdo:

that's it's primary task

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coffee88_:

and logs well. Gets me through my work day.

[20:36:22]

scopeuk:

yeh how bout lookign if a string matches what has been said and replays the next cupple of lines

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scopeuk:

!help

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MythLogBot:

Use "help" followed by a bot command. For a list of bot commands, use "list"

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scopeuk:

!list

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MythLogBot:

authenticate, help, list, notice, plugin, search, seen, trout

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scopeuk:

!plugin

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Beirdo:

the search does work

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scopeuk:

!seen scopeuk

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MythLogBot:

scopeuk is here and has been idle for 0 seconds

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Beirdo:

and you can't do plugin stuff in a channel, only in privmsg, and only if you are authenticated

[20:37:09]

scopeuk:

yeh

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gardengnome:

!search something

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scopeuk:

jsut lookign at what every thing does

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stuarta:

!trout MythLogBot

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** MythLogBot slaps MythLogBot with a trout on behalf of stuarta... **

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Juski:

scopeuk: you figured out how to power your PC on yet? ;-)

[20:37:24]

scopeuk:

fataly i never was that good at the whole rtfm thing

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stuarta:

hehehe. bot needs some education!

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scopeuk:

Juski nope but i found a cupple of hunder ways of powerign it off

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gardengnome:

!help search

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MythLogBot:

Search for text in a channel's log, returns top 3 matches by privmsg. Syntax: (in channel) search text (in privmsg) search #channel text.

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Beirdo:

oh, and search always returns in privmsg

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stuarta:

gbee just runs the latest svn & that kills it :)

[20:38:01]

scopeuk:

nice touch

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gardengnome:

!search mythtv

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scopeuk:

gardengnome/larga good look to you

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gardengnome:

look?

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scopeuk:

!search lunatic

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Beirdo:

gah

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scopeuk:

heh im sure i called someone a lunatic at some point

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** scopeuk will stop now **

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gardengnome:

!help lunatic

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MythLogBot:

Currently no help on this subject

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Beirdo:

stupid bot just went into flood protection

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scopeuk:

lol

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Beirdo:

I really need to tweak that shite

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gardengnome:

heh

[20:39:25]

scopeuk:

we broke your bot?

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gardengnome:

yay o/

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scopeuk:

lol nice call

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scopeuk:

!help me

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MythLogBot:

Currently no help on this subject

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Beirdo:

no, just caused it to sit and rotate for a bit so it didn't flood out

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scopeuk:

argh not as bad as getign itself kick baned then

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Beirdo:

yeah, or Excess-flooded right off the server

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scopeuk:

ive foudn how to get myself kick baned froma server in one line once

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scopeuk:

acidentaly join the wrong channel and there it goes

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scopeuk:

job done

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Beirdo:

yeah

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Beirdo:

pretend you are a particularly nasty bot, you are likely to get k-lined on most networks

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scopeuk:

oh no

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scopeuk:

jsut that chanel is a an auto kick ban

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Beirdo:

heh

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coffee88_:

Beirdo: any progress likely on the boss friendly log skin at some point?...

[20:42:02]

Beirdo:

well, on some networks, it's auto-k-line

[20:42:02]

scopeuk:

invite "insert prats nick here" #isert special chan name here

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Juski:

a smiley paints a thousand words... :-)

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** Juski gets kicked.. excess flood **

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Beirdo:

coffee88_: get a better boss :)

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coffee88_:

to be fair, it's not the boss. It's everyone in our open plan pen....

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scopeuk:

or re parse it with php on your own server

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Beirdo:

we'll have skin support soon enough

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Beirdo:

the structure for tunable CSS is there

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Beirdo:

just isn't fully used yet

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coffee88_:

just checking... np

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scopeuk:

heh does it use css at all?

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Beirdo:

yes

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coffee88_:

if you'll take a submitted css I might give it a go?

[20:44:30]

Beirdo:

of course it does :)

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** scopeuk thinks his browser may already have overide suport **

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gardengnome:

where can i search the logs?

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** coffee88_ knows his work browser doesn't have overide... **

[20:45:05]

Beirdo:

you make a CSS, I'm sure that xris will look at incorporating it as an option

[20:45:06]

scopeuk:

# !search "stuff to look for"

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coffee88_:

I'll see how busy I get....

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Beirdo:

gardengnome: with the bot.. or with google. There will be a search page soon

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gardengnome:

oh, ok

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scopeuk:

ok im gonan do somethign nutts this wekend im gonna make a (criminal) attempt to get a second box set up to do rencoding possibly setup my main box such that i can leave it running rencode which im out

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scopeuk:

hmm vm ware beacons

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scopeuk:

what black magic does myth do to alsa config when it boots

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scopeuk:

if only i dident have to switch offthis box

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dtm:

woo hoo! my weekend-long quest to upgrade mythtv 0.18.1 to 0.19 seems to be done!

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dtm:

congratulations and thanks to all contributors

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ste__:

hi there..

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xris:

damn, they pushed back the fc5 release date. oh wel.

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stuarta:

when is it now?

[21:12:40]

xris:

20th

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xris:

instead of the 15th

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Beirdo:

heh

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stuarta:

monday isn't that bad....

[21:13:07]

xris:

same day morrowind comes out. heh

[21:13:24]

stuarta:

there goes the bandwidth of the planet#

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scopeuk:

oh well none will notice the relase date of fc5

[21:13:33]

scopeuk:

they can set it back anbother month and no one will notice

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xris:

scopeuk: I will.

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Beirdo:

or another decade

[21:13:46]

scopeuk:

xris ok

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Beirdo:

:)

[21:13:53]

ste__:

hi guys..I have a question about my mythtv box.. are you up for a round of newbie questions? :)

[21:13:56]

** scopeuk is mreo fo a poitn and hoot gamer **

[21:13:59]

xris:

I switched to ubuntu, and really don't like it much

[21:14:06]

Beirdo:

morrowind has a new version coming out?

[21:14:16]

scopeuk:

ste__ as long as there not on on the forum/wiki

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xris:

Beirdo: how'd you miss that? It was voted best rpg of 2005, and it's not even out yet.

[21:14:25]

Beirdo:

well, I like the debianness once I got used to it.

[21:14:39]

Beirdo:

I don't read slashdot, etc

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** scopeuk lieks debian but tats becouse compilers hate me **

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xris:

Beirdo: I have the same issues I do with fedora.. missing packages, weird-named packages, etc. will stick with the one I know best.

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Beirdo:

fair enough

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Beirdo:

I never had any such issues that I noticed

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scopeuk:

i gave up on the "one i know best" when i realised i dont know any of them

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xris:

and fedora is now kept more up to date for third-party stuff.

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Beirdo:

I hope so :)

[21:15:48]

xris:

ste__: don't ask to ask, just ask.

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ste__:

well.. it might be.. but I have most of it up and running, got all the xmltv and mythfilldatabase stuff working, and the remote control and backend and frontend..

[21:15:56]

stuarta:

I took up debian round about version 1 when redhat would even boot on my machine.

[21:15:58]

xris:

Beirdo: meaning, more up to date than ubuntu

[21:16:05]

Beirdo:

doubtful

[21:16:21]

Beirdo:

dapper has the latest of everything that I looked at

[21:16:25]

ste__:

when I play live TV I get no picture, but I do get an output mpeg2 in the right place

[21:16:35]

xris:

Beirdo: dapper isn't released yet, is it?

[21:16:51]

Beirdo:

no, and once it's released, only security updates will be made

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Beirdo:

that's how ubuntu does it. bleeding edge is in the unreleased

[21:17:11]

Beirdo:

and they release every 6 months

[21:17:34]

xris:

Beirdo: I'm talking third party stuff... like amarok, etc.

[21:17:42]

Beirdo:

ahh

[21:17:59]

lotia:

anyone here noticed buffering problems with 0.19 when watching livetv

[21:17:59]

Beirdo:

that's up to the people that maintain the packages in universe and multiverse

[21:18:02]

xris:

ste__: what about playing recordings?

[21:18:03]

Beirdo:

but I see your point :)

[21:18:26]

xris:

Beirdo: like I said. same problem as fedora. but their extras repository has been going really strong lately.

[21:18:27]

lono:

Hey, so with myth 0.19, it seems to be automatically recording whatever channel I'm on. I don't have a problem with that, except that it seems to keep these recordings automatically. Is there a way to disable that?

[21:18:29]

ste__:

it doesn't seem to record either

[21:18:30]

lotia:

works fine initially, but after the first channel change the frontend output constant rebuffering messages

[21:18:44]

Beirdo:

makes sense :)

[21:19:09]

Beirdo:

anyways, it's all good as then I can get you to make me RPM specs for the bot :)

[21:19:12]

Beirdo:

hehe

[21:19:21]

xris:

lono: no. it will auto-expire them as it needs disk space, though...

[21:19:32]

hexoroid:

anybody got Hauppauge 150?

[21:19:36]

lono:

xris: sweet.

[21:19:51]

Beirdo:

hexoroid: of course people do...

[21:19:58]

lono:

Ok, one more question-- since I upgraded, I no longer have channel names

[21:20:00]

hexoroid:

and got gentoo running ?

[21:20:03]

hexoroid:

:-)

[21:20:06]

xris:

lono: you can hide their display in the frontend, too

[21:20:06]

lono:

hexoroid: I do

[21:20:14]

hexoroid:

lono are you running gentoo ?

[21:20:42]

hexoroid:

i cant not get it to work with gentoo for some reason :(

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ste__:

xris: it says the show was recorded, but the file is missing.

[21:21:34]

lotia:

hexoroid i have a pvr-500 rather 2 of them which are sort of like 2 pvr-150 on each card

[21:21:53]

xris:

ste__: what kind of tuner card/drivers?

[21:21:56]

hexoroid:

i cna not get pvr-150 to work damn it

[21:22:07]

lotia:

hexoroid: what error you getting

[21:22:10]

hexoroid:

i updated kernel, drivers, firmware

[21:22:26]

hexoroid:

lotia, i am getting how its not able to load tveeprom, tuner

[21:22:36]

lotia:

okay what does dmesg say

[21:22:38]

Juski:

time for some pancakes, oh yeah

[21:22:52]

lotia:

if there is a pastebox can you paste output there?

[21:23:10]

hexoroid:

second

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ste__:

xris: I've got a haup Nova-T and the cx88_blackbird, cx88_dvb, cx8800/xx

[21:23:48]

lono:

hexoroid: why yes I am

[21:23:50]

hexoroid:

http://pastebin.com/600456

[21:24:22]

xris:

ste__: dunno if the blackbird works (or did they eventually fix those drivers?). Anyway, I'd stick with one card for now, and get it working.

[21:24:25]

lono:

xris: hide their display? I'd like to display the channel names. Do you know where in the setup it gets the channel names?

[21:24:29]

lotia:

okay its a kernel config problem

[21:24:44]

hexoroid:

whats the problem ?

[21:24:46]

xris:

lono: meaning, the display in the "recorded programs" list..

[21:24:49]

hexoroid:

i have everything as they say :)

[21:25:03]

lono:

hexoroid: is this a 500?

[21:25:07]

hexoroid:

nope

[21:25:09]

hexoroid:

its 150

[21:25:32]

lono:

xris: oh, right.. yeah, i don't see them in the 'recorded programs' list, I just noticed that I have like 4gb free

[21:25:43]

** kormoc lets out a delayed yelp at Beirdo's smack **

[21:25:50]

Beirdo:

hehe

[21:25:56]

Beirdo:

took that long to come to?

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ste__:

xris: I had a look on the HW database.. seems to be working.. http://pvrhw.goldfish.org/tiki-pvrhwdb.php?fi . . . odified_desc

[21:26:10]

Beirdo:

didn't mean to smack ya THAT hard

[21:26:25]

lotia:

in kernel config->device drivers->i2c support->miscellaneous i2c chip support make sure that EEPROM reader is not compiled in. unselect it or make it a module

[21:26:34]

ste__:

xris: am I doing something daft like not setting up the video display correctly.. or.. I've not installed my soundcard yet.. could that affect stuff?

[21:26:41]

kormoc:

Beirdo, hehe, nah, just filled up on pho soup

[21:26:46]

lono:

hexoroid: I had some similar issues.. did you get the hauppauge firmware?

[21:27:02]

xris:

ste__: it might. usually the best thing to do is to get the card working outside of myth first.

[21:27:03]

lotia:

hexoroid: sorry i forgot to put your name on that last reply

[21:27:18]

ste__:

xris: ok thanks :)

[21:27:36]

lono:

Hey Beirdo – After upgrading to 0.19 I no longer have channel names. Do you know where in the setup those come from?

[21:27:42]

Beirdo:

nope

[21:27:53]

lono:

criznap

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hexoroid:

lotia, its okay

[21:28:17]

xris:

lono usually that comes from your listing source.

[21:28:21]

hexoroid:

lono, yes i did

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lono:

hexoroid: have you emerged hotplug and coldplug?

[21:28:55]

hexoroid:

umm no

[21:29:02]

lono:

emerge those.. and

[21:29:12]

Beirdo:

emerge turd

[21:29:13]

lono:

manually get the ivtv drivers from the ivtv website

[21:29:18]

Beirdo:

; flush

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lono:

I simply could not get the ivtv drivers from portage working with my pvr500 card

[21:29:49]

hexoroid:

well actually i do have hotplug emerged

[21:30:06]

hexoroid:

both of them :)

[21:30:35]

lono:

make sure they are running at default

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lono:

or loading at default, that is

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hexoroid:

what do you mean as deafult..

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hexoroid:

i put the firmware where its supposted to be and drivers

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lono:

type 'rc-update add hotplug default'

[21:31:59]

lono:

same for coldplug

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hexoroid:

and then i did modprobe ivtv

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lono:

..and make sure hotplug is running

[21:32:41]

hexoroid:

how do you check..

[21:32:52]

lono:

type '/etc/init.d/hotplug status'

[21:32:54]

hexoroid:

oh

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kormoc:

lono, so what's the difference between the ivtvdrivers.org and the portage ivtv driver?

[21:33:26]

lono:

kormoc: I believe the portage drivers were older.. I think

[21:33:34]

lono:

damn, I can't remember

[21:33:55]

lono:

yeah, from the ivtv site they are 0.4.3

[21:33:56]

kormoc:

lono, They arn't anymore at least

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hexoroid:

lono, done

[21:34:05]

lono:

portage has 0.4.2

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lotia:

lono: if you have hotplug running is there any need to then put the kernel modules in modules.autoload

[21:34:20]

kormoc:

0.4.2 unmasked

[21:34:38]

kormoc:

lono, I do beleive 0.4.3 is just masked

[21:35:05]

lono:

kormoc: yes, but I think I had to manually do some stuff with the ./configure script

[21:35:10]

kormoc:

ooh?

[21:35:14]

kormoc:

such as?

[21:35:22]

lono:

this was before I discovered the 'ebuild' tool

[21:35:25]

hexoroid:

lono, i think firmware loads up fine.. just the drivers tuner and so on are the problem

[21:35:41]

lono:

hexoroid: well, it will tell you on dmesg if it finds and loads the firmware

[21:35:52]

hexoroid:

i think it did

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lotia:

hexoroid: you have a problem with the tveeprom module not loading. thats because the EEPROM reader driver is loading before it

[21:36:06]

lono:

oh yeah

[21:36:31]

hexoroid:

ivtv1: loaded v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw firmware (262144 bytes)

[21:36:36]

lono:

it's weird how it thinks it's a 250 and not 150

[21:36:45]

hexoroid:

yeah..

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kormoc:

that's actually common on some cards iirc

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hexoroid:

WARNING: Error inserting videodev (/lib/modules/2.6.14-gentoo-r5/kernel/drivers/media/video/videodev.ko): Invalid module format

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hexoroid:

thats wird

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hexoroid:

FATAL: Error inserting ivtv (/lib/modules/2.6.14-gentoo-r5/extra/ivtv.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)

[21:39:42]

lono:

unknown symbol, eh?

[21:39:45]

lono:

I got more than a few of those too

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ste__:

xris: oh cool.. it's working in xine. i got some dvb tools from linuxtv.org and scanned the local tv transmitter, then xine started up np

[21:40:09]

lono:

I think what I ended up doing is upgrading to kernel 2.6.15-r5

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kormoc:

I fould that ivtv 0.4.0 and kernel 2.6.14 was the most stable

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** kormoc shrugs **

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xris:

ste__: cool.

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hexoroid:

kormoc, thats what i am running now

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lono:

kormoc: I didn't want to downgrade what I had.. everything sort of revolved around me still using mysql 5

[21:41:18]

kormoc:

hexoroid, ooh? I thought you were using ivtv 0.4.2?

[21:41:28]

hexoroid:

2.6.14 and 0.4.3

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lono:

I use my mythtv box as a dev box too

[21:41:43]

kormoc:

lono, heh, that's a myth issue, not a ivtv issue :P

[21:41:57]

kormoc:

hexoroid, 0.4.0 != 0.4.2

[21:42:12]

hexoroid:

should i maybe try 0.4.0 ?

[21:42:13]

lono:

kormoc: true, but after a week of pounding your head, I upgraded everything I could

[21:42:31]

kormoc:

hexoroid, I would recommend it

[21:42:36]

lono:

well, *my* head

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hexoroid:

ok

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hexoroid:

brb

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kormoc:

lono, ooh? my head? I would have told you to change the three lines in the one file and have mysql 5 compatability in myth

[21:42:54]

kormoc:

ahh

[21:43:10]

lono:

kormoc: been there, done that

[21:43:12]

sean33:

in the default lirc there is a mention of F5 for a shortcut to tv ? but yet F5 isnt a shortcut at all

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lono:

until mythfilldatabase decided it was going to do the wrong thing

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kormoc:

sean33, you can edit the shortcuts via mythweb's keybinding editor

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lotia:

lono hexoroid i just checked no need to start hotplug it simply works if you have a fairly recent baselayout and boot. coldplug alone should do the job

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kormoc:

lono, ooh? cause that's all that was changed in the offical tree to fix the mysql 5 compay issue

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sean33:

kromoc where is that ?

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kormoc:

sean33, install myth web, under settings->key binding editor

[21:44:46]

lono:

kormoc: wait, you're talking about the repeat field problem?

[21:44:51]

kormoc:

yup

[21:44:59]

kormoc:

that was the only mysql 5 specific fix to the source

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lono:

yeah, in 0.19 that field was changed to isrepeat

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lono:

I figured I would just upgrade for that reason

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lono:

but I didn't figure I would lose my channel names :)

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kormoc:

you could have just changed it to 'repeat' as was done in 0.18-fixes

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lono:

yeah.. I suppose

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sean33:

kormoc, im using an rpm not source

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kormoc:

sean33, so?

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lono:

I had done that for a while, but gentoo doesn't like you to muck with the source.. I found it very difficult to edit the source and compile it

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lono:

gentoo has a habit of clearing out the work directory and replacing it with the original source

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lono:

so I decided to screw it and just use 0.19

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kormoc:

lono, if you would have checked bugzilla, there was a ebuild with a patch that fixed it for ya automatically

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sean33:

so thus i can not see any keybinding editor

[21:47:30]

sean33:

is there a file for it

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kormoc:

sean33, thus why I said install mythweb

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lono:

sometimes I feel like a friggen gentoo novice

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lono:

I just learned about the 'ebuild' utility

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Led-Hed:

thought that was the only reason to use Gentoo?

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Led-Hed:

;)

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kormoc:

emerge/ebuild/equery/etc :P

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lono:

Led-Hed: yeah, that's true.. I have learned an assload about how linux works..

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sean33:

kormoc isnt there a file i can just edit ?

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kormoc:

sean33, it's all stored in the database, so no

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sean33:

hmmm how does the mythweb setup go , i dont realy want to run a webserver on this machine as well

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kormoc:

well, then you can't really run mythweb, as it requires apache

[21:51:46]

kormoc:

you could look into editing the db by hand

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xris:

sean33: you could run mythweb from another machine, too.

[21:53:55]

Beirdo:

sure can

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Beirdo:

:)

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Beirdo:

that's what I do

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Beirdo:

anyways, I'm goin to the chiro

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Beirdo:

seeya all

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** kormoc waves **

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kormoc:

enjoy your chiro!

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sean33:

well i dont much like the solution but thanks

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kormoc:

sean33, currently, afaik, it's eather mythweb's keybinding editor or via mysql

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Juski – you in??

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Pitchin_uk:

cheers stuarta

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:)

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Hello Juski

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hexoroid:

ivtv: no version for "struct_module" found: kernel tainted.

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hexoroid:

what is that

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stuarta:

means that not everything in your kernel is licensed under GPL

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kormoc:

likely it doesn't tell the kernel what licence version it's using, and thus tains the kernel with a unknown licence

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hexoroid:

finally i fixed my nvidia

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hexoroid:

and ivtv !

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hexoroid:

yay

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Ryushin:

What was wrong with it?

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hexoroid:

my kernel

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hexoroid:

i took .confing from my friend

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hexoroid:

heh

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hexoroid:

and then i emerged ivtv

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scopeuk:

amazing homany problems that simple little bit of code known as the "kernal" can cause

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scopeuk:

as the old saying goes who is kernal panic and whats he doignreading my files

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xris:

wtf is a kernal? ;)

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scopeuk:

yeh now you see why me and linux dont work well together

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Juski:

kernal... it's like a kermal – which is a sort of curry, I think

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kormoc:

xris, it's a commodore ROM Os!

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kormoc:

xris, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KERNAL

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rsquared:

lol

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hexoroid:

whois Del Piero

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Ryushin:

Please stop. I don't even want to remember the c64 much less the vic 20.

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hexoroid:

lol

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hexoroid:

who is Peer

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xris:

kormoc: lol

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kormoc:

Ryushin, my first computer was a vic-20!

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peer:

hexoroid, I am peer!

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** peer laughs evilly **

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Ryushin:

Yea, well, mine was a TI-99. Doesn't mean I want to remember that thing. Got the Apple ][+ and the ][e after that.

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kormoc:

I also had a trs-80

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Ryushin:

Going into the store and writing a little 4 line basic program to destroy the vic 20's. Though I never did that.

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** kormoc has fond memorys of the gree monitor's loving glow **

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Ryushin:

I also remember having a Spectravideo machine that ran CP/M. Oh yea. How fun that way. 16KB of RAM.

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Ryushin:

Hey, lets port Myth to the amiga. yea, that's it.

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kormoc:

screw amiga, let's port myth to the vic 20!

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jerky_2:

is there a way to get myth to always scan for new music when you go to "listen to music" under "media library"?

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Beirdo:

yeehaw

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Beirdo:

printed a UPC label on the label printer

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Beirdo:

from Linux

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kormoc:

heh, it's fun isn't it? :)

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Beirdo:

yep

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Ryushin:

kormoc: Or better yet, the Timex Sinclair.

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Beirdo:

now I just need to hack the UPC generation code a touch so I don't need to use it via CGI

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kormoc:

Beirdo, what are you using to generate it?

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Beirdo:

http://www.milk.com/barcode/server/

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Beirdo:

then a bunch of netpbm commands

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Beirdo:

then http://www.freelabs.com/~whitis/software/pbm2lwxl/

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Beirdo:

:)

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Beirdo:

it's a Dymo LabelWriter 320, BTW

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Criggie:

seriously – mythfrontend on the palm would be cool.

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kormoc:

Beirdo, hehe, I have a dymo labelwriter twin turbo on my desk :)

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Ryushin:

How about Linux running on that new origami.

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Beirdo:

hehe

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Beirdo:

fun stuff

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kormoc:

Beirdo, we're using the php built in bar code generator to do our labels

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Beirdo:

muh?

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Beirdo:

WTF?

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kormoc:

Beirdo, http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Barcode

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Beirdo:

I didn't see any evidence of that :)

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Beirdo:

damn

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Beirdo:

how do you get it from there to the printer?

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kormoc:

Beirdo, I take it as a png image and run it to the printer via lpr, lpr uses the cups drivers for the printer

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Beirdo:

ah

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Beirdo:

so you are using pnm2lxwl then in the end, I guess

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kormoc:

nope

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Beirdo:

this "barcode" program creates exceedingly small barcodes when printing without rescaling

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kormoc:

ahh

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Beirdo:

ummm, cups uses pnm2lxwl for these printers

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kormoc:

I use php's build in gd image stuff to position and write text and all that jazz

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xris:

Beirdo: what brand printer?

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kormoc:

Beirdo, my command line is lpr -P dymo -o page-left=40 -o page-right=0 -o page-top=0 -o page-bottom=0 -o landscape -o ppi=300 barcode.png

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Beirdo:

Dymo LabelWriter 320

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xris:

Beirdo: email dymo.. they have beta drivers for cups

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Beirdo:

cool

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Beirdo:

I might just do that

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Beirdo:

but this does work pretty well :)

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UserAbuse:

hello

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Beirdo:

with the correct encouragement :)

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UserAbuse:

is anybody else having prebuffering problems with 0.19 ?

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Cardoe:

hey Beirdo

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Beirdo:

heya

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Cardoe:

hey kormoc

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kormoc:

hihi Cardoe

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Cardoe:

I'm beat

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** Cardoe hasn't had a day off from work since Feb 22nd **

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Cardoe:

but it's got it's ups.

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Cardoe:

money

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kormoc:

heh

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Cardoe:

getting myself an iPod as a present

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kormoc:

I'm beat, largly due to attempting to snowboard this saturday :P

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dougiel:

anyone know how to config dosbox auto mounts and autoexec.bat

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dougiel:

opps sorry

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