| Saturday, February 25th, 2006, 00:06 UTC | ||
| [00:06:00] | Ryushin: | How did you install alsa? |
| [00:07:00] | hyperstream: | kernel |
| [00:07:00] | hyperstream: | then i did apt-get install alsautils |
| [00:09:00] | Ryushin: | Did you install alsa-dev? |
| [00:09:00] | Ryushin: | Sorry, alsa-oss |
| [00:10:00] | Ryushin: | debian based distro I'm assuming. |
| [00:10:00] | hyperstream: | yeah i havnt installing now tho |
| [00:11:00] | hyperstream: | ok recompiling it now |
| [00:11:00] | hyperstream: | :) |
| [00:11:00] | Ryushin: | What hardware are you using? |
| [00:11:00] | Jasper^off: | weee...today is a said day.. |
| [00:11:00] | Jasper^off: | my mythbox is finished.. |
| [00:11:00] | Jasper^off: | :P |
| [00:12:00] | Juski_: | finished? |
| [00:12:00] | Juski_: | how so? |
| [00:12:00] | Jasper^off: | it's fully functional I guess.. |
| [00:12:00] | Juski_: | finished working, or just 'finished off' ? ;-) |
| [00:12:00] | Jasper^off: | sad even btw |
| [00:12:00] | Jasper^off: | hmm |
| [00:12:00] | Jasper^off: | I think I';m gonna mess around with the coding |
| [00:12:00] | Jasper^off: | always fun |
| [00:12:00] | Jasper^off: | :P |
| [00:13:00] | Juski_: | glutton for punishment, obviously ^^^^ |
| [00:13:00] | Ryushin: | Jasper^off: Did you get HD working yet? |
| [00:13:00] | Jasper^off: | HD? |
| [00:13:00] | Ryushin: | Sure. It's not done until you get HD working. |
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| [00:13:00] | Jasper^off: | you wanna get HD working on a 800 mhz? |
| [00:13:00] | Juski_: | lol |
| [00:13:00] | Jasper^off: | assuming you mean high definition? |
| [00:13:00] | Ryushin: | Yea. |
| [00:14:00] | Jasper^off: | well |
| [00:14:00] | flyr: | Hi |
| [00:14:00] | Ryushin: | Actually, I guess quite a few people are getting it to work with XvMC. |
| [00:14:00] | Jasper^off: | I could give it a try.. |
| [00:14:00] | Jasper^off: | it seems my nvidia is hd reay.. |
| [00:14:00] | Jasper^off: | at least that's what it says on the box |
| [00:14:00] | Ryushin: | I'm running about 35% cpu on a 2 ghz with XvMC. |
| [00:14:00] | Jasper^off: | HD? |
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| [00:14:00] | Ryushin: | Which nvidia card do you have? |
| [00:14:00] | Jasper^off: | I run 45% |
| [00:14:00] | Jasper^off: | not HD |
| [00:15:00] | Jasper^off: | but bitrate of 100000 |
| [00:15:00] | Juski_: | I don't think that'll cut it for HD somehow |
| [00:15:00] | Ryushin: | What capture card do you have? |
| [00:15:00] | Jasper^off: | hauppauge 500 |
| [00:15:00] | Jasper^off: | and nvidia 6200 |
| [00:15:00] | Ryushin: | Then you'll want to try and get XvMC working. |
| [00:15:00] | Ryushin: | It should lower your current playback down to under 20%. |
| [00:15:00] | Jasper^off: | Juski_ me neither...and even if...we don't have HD here |
| [00:15:00] | Jasper^off: | :P |
| [00:16:00] | Jasper^off: | Ryushin that's with xvmc |
| [00:16:00] | Jasper^off: | 8) |
| [00:16:00] | flyr: | Is it me or is mythweb .9 is slower than .8? TV listings, especially. |
| [00:16:00] | Ryushin: | Woa! Really? I run about 8–12% with XvMC for a ntsc mpeg2 stream. |
| [00:16:00] | Juski_: | it's you, flyr |
| [00:16:00] | Jasper^off: | Ryushin you got a 2 ghz |
| [00:16:00] | Jasper^off: | I got a 800 mhz |
| [00:17:00] | Ryushin: | Still, I would think it's not that high. |
| [00:17:00] | Jasper^off: | and my mpeg 2 stream is captured at 10 mbit with 720x56 |
| [00:17:00] | Jasper^off: | :P |
| [00:17:00] | Ryushin: | Have you confirmed XvMC is running? |
| [00:17:00] | Juski_: | time for some NFS underground. should be interesting |
| [00:17:00] | Jasper^off: | yes? |
| [00:17:00] | Jasper^off: | at least |
| [00:17:00] | Ryushin: | NFS Underground 2. |
| [00:17:00] | Jasper^off: | cpu load gets reduced by around 25% |
| [00:18:00] | Juski_: | Jasper^off: don't you go listening to Ryushin: get speaks with forked tongue. nobody could play hd on an 800mhz without a _full_ mpeg2 decoder onboard |
| [00:18:00] | Ryushin: | Hmmm... Still seems high to me. Without XvMC, I'm running about 30% cpu, with, 8–12. |
| [00:19:00] | Juski_: | Ryushin: but you've got 2GHz and he has but 800mhz |
| [00:19:00] | Ryushin: | Juski_: Not so, I've been reading about some people with the via mini-itx boards with the via processors running 800 mhz with the unichromepro xvmc. So I know it's possible. |
| [00:20:00] | Jasper^off: | I use the nvidia drivers.. |
| [00:20:00] | scopeuk: | heh one way to find out imho |
| [00:20:00] | Ryushin: | They are running about 80% cpue. |
| [00:20:00] | Jasper^off: | thrust me Ryushin, you can't talk me into trying that.....it took me a week to get xvmc working |
| [00:20:00] | Jasper^off: | :P |
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| [00:21:00] | Ryushin: | Jasper^off: But I guess it's a moot point unless your have a HD TV. |
| [00:21:00] | Jasper^off: | and hd channels would help too |
| [00:21:00] | Jasper^off: | :P |
| [00:21:00] | Juski_: | Ryushin: I've got some news for you.... the via mini-itx boards have _full_ mpeg2 decoders on them. I know cos I own one |
| [00:21:00] | Jasper^off: | I'm still running analog television,...so... |
| [00:21:00] | Jasper^off: | :P |
| [00:21:00] | Ryushin: | Well, there is always satellite for the next chllenge. |
| [00:22:00] | Jasper^off: | they do juski? |
| [00:22:00] | Jasper^off: | that's sweet :P |
| [00:22:00] | Juski_: | 1ghz cpu, playing back mpeg2.. 13% CPU usage |
| [00:23:00] | Jasper^off: | I'M happy with 45% |
| [00:23:00] | Jasper^off: | only thing is the deinterlacing messing up my osd ...that sucks |
| [00:23:00] | Jasper^off: | and I still need to build the svideo -> cat5 thingy |
| [00:24:00] | Ryushin: | Jasper^off: I guess it's time to get a sat dish, and the hardware to control it. I here that's a challenge but it should prove to be quite fun. |
| [00:25:00] | Ryushin: | hear. |
| [00:25:00] | juanchotazo: | is there a way I could channel a large ammount of data to a file? |
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| [00:26:00] | Jasper^off: | Ryushin I would never put such a ugly dish on my roof :P |
| [00:26:00] | Ryushin: | juanchotazo: I think you need to explain more what you're trying to do. |
| [00:26:00] | juanchotazo: | Ryushin: create a big file |
| [00:27:00] | hyperstream: | Ryushin, didnt work |
| [00:27:00] | Ryushin: | Actually, the 3 foot kind, you should attach to concrete. |
| [00:27:00] | clintar: | anyone using firewire? |
| [00:27:00] | hyperstream: | same error :/ |
| [00:27:00] | Ryushin: | juanchotazo: You can use dd to create a big file. |
| [00:28:00] | Ryushin: | For an example of dd, do man mkswap |
| [00:28:00] | Ryushin: | hyperstream: It took that long to give you the same error? |
| [00:28:00] | sandos: | does both recent ATI and NVIDIA cards support some kind of vsync? (to sync interlacing with a CRT) |
| [00:29:00] | sandos: | I know ATI ones are supposed to... |
| [00:29:00] | Ryushin: | hyperstream: Are you using debian? |
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| [00:31:00] | hyperstream: | yeap |
| [00:31:00] | hyperstream: | im having to recompile mythtv everytime i add something |
| [00:31:00] | hyperstream: | and its not a short process |
| [00:31:00] | hyperstream: | its a LONG LONG process :/ |
| [00:32:00] | Jasper^off: | I'm off |
| [00:32:00] | Jasper^off: | goodnight people |
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| [00:32:00] | Pitchin_uk: | hi guys – im really struggling as to why my backend service suddenly wont start on boot – I have had it working before |
| [00:32:00] | dtm: | Pitchin_uk: remove the lock file if it's there |
| [00:32:00] | dtm: | Pitchin_uk: and read the log. |
| [00:32:00] | Pitchin_uk: | is that what stops it?? |
| [00:33:00] | Ryushin: | hyperstream: Are you doing a make clean more make distclean each time? |
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| [00:33:00] | hyperstream: | no |
| [00:33:00] | hyperstream: | because : |
| [00:34:00] | hyperstream: | if i do make clean. i have to make it without dvb support then to enable dvb support i have to then remake it with the --enable-dvb |
| [00:34:00] | hyperstream: | it wont work otherwise if i use --enable-dvb it'll error out unless i make it without dvb enabled then remake it (with out make clean) |
| [00:34:00] | hyperstream: | ill make clean |
| [00:34:00] | hyperstream: | and attempt again |
| [00:34:00] | hyperstream: | back soonish |
| [00:35:00] | Ryushin: | hyperstream: What kernel are you using? |
| [00:35:00] | Ryushin: | What hardware are you using? |
| [00:36:00] | Pitchin_uk: | dtm : can you have a look at this pastebin for me |
| [00:36:00] | hyperstream: | Vision Plus DVB-T |
| [00:36:00] | hyperstream: | kernel 2.6.15.4 |
| [00:36:00] | hyperstream: | this is my configure line: http://pastebin.com/571242 |
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| [00:37:00] | Juski_: | right time for bed |
| [00:37:00] | Juski_: | night all |
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| [00:37:00] | Pitchin_uk: | http://pastebin.com/571241 |
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| [00:39:00] | Ryushin: | hyperstream: Check you the pastebin you sent. I added what my configure looks like. I actually made a little script to save all my settings and I run that for my configure. |
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| [00:41:00] | hyperstream: | hmnm |
| [00:41:00] | hyperstream: | thats alot different to mine lol |
| [00:42:00] | hyperstream: | why does mythtv take such great time to compile ? |
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| [00:44:00] | Pitchin_uk: | Can someone help me diagnose this please |
| [00:44:00] | Pitchin_uk: | http://pastebin.com/571253 |
| [00:44:00] | hyperstream: | well ill see how this make goes |
| [00:44:00] | hyperstream: | start mysql |
| [00:45:00] | hyperstream: | /etc/init.d/mysql start i believe |
| [00:45:00] | Pitchin_uk: | its already running |
| [00:46:00] | hyperstream: | have you done cd database |
| [00:46:00] | hyperstream: | mysql < mc.sql |
| [00:46:00] | hyperstream: | to great the tables then give it permission for mythtv to access it |
| [00:46:00] | Ryushin: | hyperstream: I spent a LONG time optimizing it for the K8 processors. It will make a huge difference in HD playback. |
| [00:46:00] | hyperstream: | Ryushin, 1 sec |
| [00:47:00] | hyperstream: | Ryushin, http://pastebin.com/571258 |
| [00:47:00] | hyperstream: | thats my cpuinfo |
| [00:48:00] | hyperstream: | hmm |
| [00:48:00] | hyperstream: | off topic: is there anyway to like make firefox my default browser for xchat? |
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| [00:48:00] | Ryushin: | hyperstream: Yea, my top configure options should make a big difference in myth's cpu usage. |
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| [00:49:00] | hyperstream: | Ryushin, even with my processor? |
| [00:49:00] | hyperstream: | its k8 ? |
| [00:49:00] | Ryushin: | I run a sempron 64. It's a K8, so is any Athlon 64's. |
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| [00:49:00] | hyperstream: | hmm |
| [00:49:00] | Pitchin_uk: | ive had the service running from boot and now it wont the only useful error i get is http://pastebin.com/571253 |
| [00:50:00] | hyperstream: | oo while im at it i also get alot of these while compiling: http://pastebin.com/571260 |
| [00:50:00] | Ryushin: | Pitchin_uk: sorry, I don't run seperate frontend backend servers yet. so I don't think I will be much help to you. |
| [00:50:00] | kormoc: | Ryushin, what comfigure options are you talking about? |
| [00:50:00] | Pitchin_uk: | nore do i |
| [00:51:00] | Pitchin_uk: | i run the backend and frontend of the same machine |
| [00:51:00] | hyperstream: | Pitchin_uk, it cannot connect to the database |
| [00:51:00] | hyperstream: | something is wrong with mysql |
| [00:51:00] | Pitchin_uk: | i have had it on the past where i turn my machine on and the service starts |
| [00:51:00] | Pitchin_uk: | hyperstream – how can i check?? |
| [00:52:00] | hyperstream: | well all i can say is reinstall it |
| [00:52:00] | Ryushin: | --arch=k8, --enable-mmx, --extra-cflags="-O3 -march=k8 -fomit-frame-pointer ", --extra-cxxflags="-march=k8 -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer " |
| [00:52:00] | Ryushin: | Without those options, I can't play HD using libmpeg2. |
| [00:52:00] | hyperstream: | you cant?? |
| [00:52:00] | hyperstream: | i can with my configure line |
| [00:52:00] | Pitchin_uk: | does that mean having to delete the database?? |
| [00:52:00] | hyperstream: | Pitchin_uk, im not sure |
| [00:53:00] | hyperstream: | im real newbie at mythtv |
| [00:53:00] | kormoc: | Ryushin, should be --march=k8, arch of k8 implies --enable-mmx (aka -mmmx) amd -fomit-frame-pointer makes gdb backtraces worthless if you ever need to debug (just to keep it in mind) |
| [00:53:00] | hyperstream: | all i can tell is that it cant connect to the database |
| [00:53:00] | Pitchin_uk: | i agree |
| [00:53:00] | kormoc: | Ryushin, hehe, oopes, ignore the --arch thing :P |
| [00:53:00] | Pitchin_uk: | how can i tell what port it should be on |
| [00:54:00] | hyperstream: | as far as i can see ur mysql server isnt running |
| [00:54:00] | Ryushin: | hyperstream: for you firefox problem, what does ls -la /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser show? |
| [00:54:00] | Pitchin_uk: | it is |
| [00:54:00] | kormoc: | Ryushin, but yeah, same flags as I use basically. |
| [00:54:00] | hyperstream: | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 2006-02–24 15:26 /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser -> /usr/bin/epiphany |
| [00:54:00] | hyperstream: | very nice Ryushin |
| [00:54:00] | hyperstream: | so i should ln -s it to firefox? |
| [00:55:00] | Ryushin: | kormoc: Without those flags, HD will consume 100% and drop frams when using libmpeg2. With those flags it will run at about 80%. |
| [00:55:00] | Ryushin: | hyperstream: Yea. |
| [00:55:00] | hyperstream: | hmm |
| [00:55:00] | hyperstream: | firefox isnt in /usr/bin rotf |
| [00:55:00] | Pitchin_uk: | brb |
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| [00:55:00] | Ryushin: | hyperstream: which firefox |
| [00:55:00] | hyperstream: | mozilla firefox |
| [00:56:00] | hyperstream: | i just type: firefox from terminal to start it ( i made a launcher on desktop) |
| [00:56:00] | hyperstream: | just updatedb. ill locate firefox :) |
| [00:56:00] | Ryushin: | hyperstream: No, I mean from the command line, type "which firefox" |
| [00:56:00] | hyperstream: | oo |
| [00:57:00] | hyperstream: | no result |
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| [00:58:00] | Ryushin: | Really? Where is firefox installed? What happens when you do a apt-get install firefox? |
| [00:58:00] | hyperstream: | thats how i installed it |
| [00:58:00] | hyperstream: | wait |
| [00:58:00] | hyperstream: | i had to install qt3-mt |
| [00:58:00] | hyperstream: | that removed it my bad |
| [00:58:00] | hyperstream: | funny this apt thingo |
| [01:00:00] | Ryushin: | What until I show you apt-get build-dep |
| [01:00:00] | hyperstream: | all fixed |
| [01:00:00] | hyperstream: | apt-get build-dep ?? :P |
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| [01:01:00] | Ryushin: | If you put a myth packages in your sources.list, and run apt-get build-dep mythtv, it will grab all the packages necessary build mythtv. |
| [01:02:00] | hyperstream: | woah |
| [01:02:00] | hyperstream: | thats leeto |
| [01:02:00] | hyperstream: | shows how much i know about debian so far :) |
| [01:02:00] | hyperstream: | still compilen :( |
| [01:02:00] | Ryushin: | In fact that is probably what you should do to make sure you have all the packages you need to compile mythtv. |
| [01:03:00] | hyperstream: | yeah |
| [01:03:00] | hyperstream: | still i prefer to build most things from source :x |
| [01:04:00] | Ryushin: | Oh, I run mythtv from source. But the advantage is that you know you have almost every package installed to compile mythtv. |
| [01:04:00] | hyperstream: | yeah well thats true |
| [01:05:00] | Ryushin: | I'm running SVN. |
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| [01:07:00] | hyperstream: | wewt just added: dvb_bt8xx to /etc/modules |
| [01:07:00] | hyperstream: | should work on boot up i hope. |
| [01:07:00] | hyperstream: | SVN ?? |
| [01:08:00] | Ryushin: | svn is the development version of mythtv. Though .19 is very close to the current svn right now. |
| [01:09:00] | hyperstream: | ooo nice |
| [01:09:00] | hyperstream: | has more fixes etc? |
| [01:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | well, it's been afew weeks since 0.19 was spit out, so yeah, more fixes, features and bugs :) |
| [01:10:00] | Ryushin: | More fixes and more bugs. But you can change to sppecific versions of svn for those that are stable. That's what I do. I'll try different version and record the ones that are stable. |
| [01:11:00] | hyperstream: | i have a 3 gig partition just for running mythtv(its recordings) over night it'll fill up and kill itself. is there anyway to set a limit to how much it uses before it deletes the file |
| [01:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | uhhh 3 gigs? |
| [01:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | That's practically nothing |
| [01:12:00] | hyperstream: | i think it records what comes thru so u can rewind thru tv. but i dont require to rewind thru hdtv |
| [01:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | just don't leave LiveTV running when you leave the computer |
| [01:12:00] | hyperstream: | yeah i know there is was a cache limit about 6 months ago i saw. i couldnt find it |
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| [01:12:00] | hyperstream: | g/f likes tv on while she sleeps -_- |
| [01:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | buy a bigger drive :) |
| [01:12:00] | hyperstream: | so there isnt a cache limit anymore? |
| [01:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | 3 gigs, just MAYBE an hour and a half at my settings :) |
| [01:13:00] | hyperstream: | i used to be able to set the cache file to 2gig |
| [01:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | No there isn't |
| [01:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | you can limit the max amount of space LiveTV can take up, but it's not a ringbuffer anymore |
| [01:13:00] | hyperstream: | wonder if i can setup a crontab to delete the file |
| [01:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's treated like seperate recordings |
| [01:13:00] | hyperstream: | ahh |
| [01:14:00] | hyperstream: | and when that limit is reached it deletes and starts a new oen? |
| [01:14:00] | hyperstream: | one* |
| [01:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | no |
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| [01:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | every single program that occurs while livetv is running is treated as a seperate recording in a seperate file |
| [01:14:00] | hyperstream: | hmm |
| [01:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | so if a single show is on that lasts long enough to fill your tiny 3 gigs then it wont be able to expire anything since the show is still in progress |
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| [01:15:00] | hyperstream: | cause in windoze i can leave hdtv running for weeks it kinda has a limit and it over writes it one it reaches the size |
| [01:15:00] | hyperstream: | im not actually recording tho. |
| [01:15:00] | Pitchin_uk: | how can i completely remove mythtv from my machine |
| [01:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | hyperstream: LiveTV is reccording |
| [01:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | Pitchin_uk: Format the drive |
| [01:16:00] | Ryushin: | I think there is a setting somewhere to limit how much free space you're allowing for records. |
| [01:16:00] | Pitchin_uk: | easier way?? |
| [01:16:00] | hyperstream: | Ryushin, thats the one |
| [01:16:00] | Ryushin: | make uninstall. |
| [01:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | hyperstream: You can tell myth how much free space must be left on the drive, but you cannot limit the size of the livetv recording itself |
| [01:16:00] | Pitchin_uk: | i installed it by rpm's – so do i just remove them |
| [01:17:00] | Cromz: | so.. like is there a way to view the livetv recordings via the frontend? :) I dont see a menu option.. unless I'm looking in the wrong place.. |
| [01:17:00] | Brov: | Grrrrrrrr whoever told me to put udf,iso9660 in my /etc/fstab Grrrrrrrrrrrr |
| [01:17:00] | hyperstream: | greyfoxx so when it reaches the 'free space limit' whats it do ? |
| [01:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | Cromz: Change the playbackgroup |
| [01:17:00] | Ryushin: | If that's a case, then that sounds like a bug and needs to be brought to the attention of the developers. |
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| [01:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | hyperstream: in your case, like crash |
| [01:17:00] | hyperstream: | lame. |
| [01:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | Think of it this way |
| [01:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | Imagine you setup a recording |
| [01:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | and your recording drive is 3 Gigs in size |
| [01:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | and the recording ends up growing past that, .....but there is nothing else for it to expire to get space |
| [01:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | What do you think is gonna happen? |
| [01:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | Either it's gonna crash, or the recording will just stop |
| [01:19:00] | hyperstream: | GreyFoxx, so with the software that comes with the card(windows software) how does it work, how does it allow me to have hdtv(live recordings) alll week ? |
| [01:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | There is no way you are storing 1 weeks worth of 24/7 HDTV in 3 gigs of space |
| [01:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | no way, no how |
| [01:20:00] | mchou: | 3 gigs?? |
| [01:20:00] | Ryushin: | Most of the time, it just sets a buffer of something like 2 hours of livetv. |
| [01:20:00] | Brov: | So is Chutt the guy who started mythtv? |
| [01:21:00] | mchou: | that's miniscule |
| [01:21:00] | briand: | you'd be hard pressed to store one HOUR in 3 gigs of drive space. |
| [01:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | Exactly |
| [01:21:00] | hyperstream: | GreyFoxx, thats because its not making 1 huge file |
| [01:21:00] | hyperstream: | its somehow cacheing it |
| [01:21:00] | mchou: | I tough 1 hr is approx 2GB :) |
| [01:21:00] | mchou: | thought* |
| [01:21:00] | hyperstream: | and writing over the file as it goes. |
| [01:21:00] | Ryushin: | .18 had a setting for how big livetv was allow to consume. Livetv was re-written a couple of months ago to not behave in that manner. Don't know which way was beter. |
| [01:21:00] | briand: | my day-to-day recording is at half-way up the 'quality' scale — and it's 2.2G per hour. |
| [01:21:00] | briand: | ..and that's SDTV |
| [01:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | hyperstream: In other words, like it said, it's NOT Keeping a week of recordings |
| [01:22:00] | Ryushin: | HD consumes 8 GB an hour for me. |
| [01:22:00] | hyperstream: | Ryushin, compile worked fine :) |
| [01:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's using a ringbuffer |
| [01:22:00] | hyperstream: | ahh |
| [01:22:00] | hyperstream: | and mythtv doesnt support ringbuffer anymore? |
| [01:22:00] | hyperstream: | or neverdid? |
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| [01:22:00] | briand: | Ryushin: 'zackly.. when i turn on 'High Quality'... I'm using up about 5–6G per hour |
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| [01:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | No, It's been changed to treat livetv like a series of recordings |
| [01:22:00] | briand: | re-hi, xris. |
| [01:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's much more flexible this way |
| [01:23:00] | briand: | MUCH more flexible. |
| [01:23:00] | hyperstream: | for some. :) |
| [01:23:00] | mchou: | GreyFoxx: Does the autoexpire apply to all recordings or livetv only? |
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| [01:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | mchou: All, but livetv is always at the top of the list |
| [01:23:00] | hyperstream: | ALSA lib control.c:817:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL /dev/mixer |
| [01:23:00] | hyperstream: | ouch :x |
| [01:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | and you can set a regulra recording to never expure if you want |
| [01:24:00] | mchou: | GreyFoxx: ahh, good |
| [01:24:00] | briand: | xris: please don't think i'm picking on you... I just use your module so much, I tend to notice things there more than elsewhere. :) |
| [01:24:00] | mchou: | GreyFoxx: maybe I can upgrade after all :) |
| [01:26:00] | Cromz: | GreyFoxx, thank you very much :) |
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| [01:26:00] | mchou: | ok, so how does PID filtering work? will it discard the "unwanted" streams? |
| [01:27:00] | mchou: | or will the mutiplexed streams all be recorded? |
| [01:27:00] | mchou: | multiplexed* |
| [01:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | discards |
| [01:28:00] | xris: | briand: huh? |
| [01:28:00] | mchou: | GreyFoxx: discard applies even to SW PID filtering? |
| [01:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [01:28:00] | Brov: | Does Myth 0.19 still say tuner is in use when you hit LiveTV and a recording is in progress? As I never understood why it didn't just play from the current live position (but obviously not allow you to change channel) |
| [01:28:00] | mchou: | GreyFoxx: like the Fusion HDTV lite? |
| [01:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | mchou: Otherwqise you wouldn't actually be filtering anything would you ?:) |
| [01:29:00] | Cromz: | Brov, yes. |
| [01:31:00] | Brov: | really? hmmmm i never understood that |
| [01:31:00] | Nichotin: | anyone managed to make some smooth setup to play dvd folders from mythvideo? |
| [01:31:00] | briand: | xris: i filed another trac ticket |
| [01:31:00] | flindet: | So, GreyFoxx, maybe you should upgrade your kernel. hahaha |
| [01:31:00] | Brov: | especially as it would be very very useful to NOT act like that and very easy to change |
| [01:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | flindet: huh? |
| [01:32:00] | flindet: | GreyFoxx: I'm just being silly hoping one day you upgrade. |
| [01:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | oh |
| [01:32:00] | flindet: | GreyFoxx: Because then you'll probably fix the elite niveus driver. ;-) |
| [01:32:00] | flindet: | I'm scared one day you'll decide to buy a logitech or something and then I'm forever screwed! hahaha |
| [01:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
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| [01:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | I have 4 pc based frontends |
| [01:33:00] | hyperstream: | hmm |
| [01:33:00] | hyperstream: | no sound :( |
| [01:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | so the niveus will be in use for a while :) |
| [01:33:00] | flindet: | Anyone here figure out a way to add movies your browsing to your netflix queue via mythflix? |
| [01:33:00] | superm1: | does anyone know if its possible with the lirc serial driver to use multiple IR transmitters on the same box |
| [01:33:00] | flindet: | GreyFoxx: Whew! good news! |
| [01:33:00] | hyperstream: | ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:819:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave |
| [01:33:00] | hyperstream: | Device is in use or busy |
| [01:34:00] | Ryushin: | hyperstream: What window manager are you using? |
| [01:34:00] | hyperstream: | gdm |
| [01:34:00] | hyperstream: | gnome |
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| [01:36:00] | hyperstream: | im just going for a reboot |
| [01:36:00] | hyperstream: | brb |
| [01:36:00] | Ryushin: | I use KDE. I had to tell KDE not to use sound. MythTV wanted exclusive access to it. |
| [01:36:00] | xris: | briand: ah. no biggie. I like bug reports. |
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| [01:36:00] | xris: | and if you suggest things I don't like, I'll just ignore you. ;) |
| [01:36:00] | Brov: | Regarding my prev que re live TV, I guess code could easily be altered to instead of popping dialog box to auto-jumping to 'Manage Recordings|Upcoming Recordings' and pressing OK, followed by jump to end of recording |
| [01:37:00] | juanchotazo: | what do you guys think to be the best theme/osd theme? |
| [01:37:00] | eiggirC: | I wish myth could save a still image with a single keypress.... That would be useful |
| [01:38:00] | Brov: | Is there any development in the area where you can record a channel from a DVB multiplex while watching a diff channel on same multiplex (like commercial recorders do) |
| [01:39:00] | Brov: | all using a single tuner card |
| [01:39:00] | juanchotazo: | no |
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| [01:39:00] | Perdignus: | juanchotazo: Retro ist a good theme |
| [01:39:00] | juanchotazo: | retro, and mythcenter |
| [01:40:00] | briand: | xris: heheh.. okay, this one isn't a suggestion, tho... an actual, bonafide error.. probably been in there a while, only just now noticed. |
| [01:40:00] | juanchotazo: | its just that retro is outdated for SVN |
| [01:40:00] | phar0e: | cry |
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| [01:42:00] | Brov: | Here's another mad idea. You press a button while watching LiveTV and the video continues but audio is instead from an mp3 playlist. Press button again and playlist pauses and TV audio returns. I currently mute ads OR press radio button on my amp which effectively does this |
| [01:42:00] | phar0e: | you should pause livetv, go outside and exercise for 10 minutes, then come back and skip all commercials |
| [01:43:00] | Brov: | Exercise? confused whats that? is that when I spin round in my chair? |
| [01:43:00] | phar0e: | lol |
| [01:43:00] | Brov: | 10 minutes!!!! I'd be dizzy n sick!! |
| [01:43:00] | scottder: | anyone know of an inexpensive SATA raid card that works well with Linux? |
| [01:43:00] | xris: | briand: will try to look at it this weekend. |
| [01:43:00] | xris: | home I go now... |
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| [01:45:00] | Brov: | I'm a windows developer but I'm curious about linux do the myth dev's have a good IDE and is the linux environment easy to develop in once you're used to it |
| [01:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | every dev uses whatever IDE, or plain editor they prefer |
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| [01:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | Personally I use Vi/ViM |
| [01:46:00] | quantum_: | I am getting this weird echo does anyone know how to fix that |
| [01:46:00] | Brov: | are there IDE's comparable to visual studio |
| [01:46:00] | kormoc: | Brov, I use vi/vim and jedit. |
| [01:46:00] | juanchotazo: | vim |
| [01:46:00] | kormoc: | Brov, kdevelop is the most visual studio like one there is, but not really |
| [01:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | Brov: I believe there are a couple, kdevelop and others. I've never really looked at any |
| [01:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | ctags+vim works for me |
| [01:47:00] | kormoc: | Brov, most people use a text editor with syntax editing and some autoindention magic |
| [01:47:00] | Brov: | I had a unix friend and he was doing some windows development and I was amazed at how he operated, using text messages to locate bugs when there was a full debug breakpoint IDE available |
| [01:48:00] | kormoc: | Brov, gdb is a full featured debugger, text based |
| [01:48:00] | Brov: | i sorted his bug in 3 minutes by breaking and looking at the vars |
| [01:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | and several gui debuggers or gui frontends to gdb |
| [01:48:00] | quantum_: | everything plays with the weird echo about .5 sec delay |
| [01:48:00] | quantum_: | I don't know what is causing it |
| [01:48:00] | kormoc: | Brov, strace is a handy system call tracer |
| [01:49:00] | Brov: | What is myth c/c++/script ? |
| [01:49:00] | kormoc: | quantum_, follow the audio setup directions on myth's site |
| [01:49:00] | kormoc: | Brov, c++ |
| [01:49:00] | juanchotazo: | check out Eclipse, Anjuta, Kdevelop |
| [01:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | 90% C++, 10%C |
| [01:49:00] | quantum_: | was working then I upgraded some stuff with yum |
| [01:49:00] | quantum_: | it still worked |
| [01:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | with the C code being libavcodec/avformat |
| [01:49:00] | quantum_: | but now that I have rebootech echo echo echo |
| [01:49:00] | kormoc: | quantum_, welp, feel free to ignore my advice then. |
| [01:50:00] | Brov: | its about time i got into linux development I got sick of relearning new m$ BS crap ideas |
| [01:50:00] | quantum_: | yeah it was really helpful |
| [01:50:00] | quantum_: | feel free to ignore my problem |
| [01:50:00] | kormoc: | quantum_, it tells you exactly what to do to fix that |
| [01:50:00] | quantum_: | do you have a link |
| [01:51:00] | kormoc: | quantum_, sure, cause my time is best served to hand you the answer after telling you where to find it... http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-7.html#ss7.2 |
| [01:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | lol |
| [01:52:00] | quantum_: | my brother's mother's friend's sister has a fix for it I think also |
| [01:52:00] | dtm: | kormoc: *your* time is *irrelevant*. |
| [01:52:00] | dtm: | we got a *user* here. |
| [01:53:00] | dtm: | and by golly if he doesn't get help, he'll get a refund. |
| [01:53:00] | quantum_: | I think she is way ahead of you |
| [01:53:00] | phar0e: | will having dvb and v4l in the kernel cause problems? do they not work with eachother or you can only use 1 at a time depending on which modules are loaded? |
| [01:53:00] | kormoc: | quantum_, so why are you in here then? |
| [01:53:00] | ** dtm pounds the customer service desk ** | |
| [01:53:00] | briand: | dtm: even a double your money back refund, at that. |
| [01:53:00] | quantum_: | she is stupid and I don't think she knows how to fix myth problems |
| [01:54:00] | quantum_: | but given the the choices at had she is looking pretty good |
| [01:54:00] | dtm: | quantum_: well then i guess you're a fine pair huh? |
| [01:54:00] | dtm: | or what |
| [01:54:00] | briand: | dtm: he's not necessarily stupid. Just incapable and/or unwilling to read. |
| [01:54:00] | quantum_: | well, duh, I don't know, are you related to kormoc, spitting out BS |
| [01:54:00] | dtm: | misery loves company, at least |
| [01:55:00] | quantum_: | I think yourmamma has a fix for it |
| [01:56:00] | kormoc: | quantum_, well fine, your issue is your capture channel's playback isn't muted, so you hear the live recording and the recorded tv playing back, hence the fix of muting the capture playback, which is in the offical docs under audio setup, which your reboot caused by not storing the old alsa mixer values due to the alsactrl update |
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| [01:56:00] | briand: | kormoc: what shitty customer service... you mean you're not going to drive over there and fix it for him? hmph. |
| [01:57:00] | phar0e: | the sarcasm in this room could power my mythbackend for months |
| [01:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [01:57:00] | dtm: | phar0e: INGENIUS |
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| [01:57:00] | hyperstream: | hmm |
| [01:57:00] | kormoc: | briand, I know not to bother, cause all I spew out is BS :P |
| [01:57:00] | hyperstream: | very wierd lol |
| [01:57:00] | dtm: | phar0e: get right on that. i'll expect a prototype on my desk monday morning. |
| [01:57:00] | phar0e: | hyperstream: g'day mate |
| [01:57:00] | quantum_: | hmm why this time but not any other times |
| [01:58:00] | hyperstream: | gday :) |
| [01:58:00] | hyperstream: | had to reinstall nvidia and nforce drivers every time i boot |
| [01:58:00] | juanchotazo: | yoy sped up developement of mythtv |
| [01:58:00] | briand: | kormoc: yeah, okay. meanwhile, I trust your help. |
| [01:58:00] | kormoc: | quantum_, cause, as I said, the new alsactrl didn't store the values from the old alsa lib that was currently running... |
| [01:58:00] | phar0e: | hey hyperstream , what kernel version are you running? |
| [01:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | juanchotazo: There have been 34 code commits since yesterday afternoon. Development is well underway :) |
| [01:59:00] | kormoc: | quantum_, it's a *common* problem whenever people update alsa, hence me pointing you to the docs that tell you want to do to fix it... |
| [01:59:00] | Brov: | so how many developers (who actually have rights to update source) and how many contributors (who post tickets with code) are there on myth |
| [01:59:00] | Hoxzer: | Saayyy heeeiii good lookign |
| [01:59:00] | Hoxzer: | whats youuu got cooking |
| [02:00:00] | juanchotazo: | yeah alsa doesnt store restore my mixer settigns after an update here also |
| [02:00:00] | hyperstream: | phar0e, 2.6.15.4 :) |
| [02:00:00] | juanchotazo: | GreyFoxx: I dont know, the release cycle seems slow.. It would be nice to have requested features and lots of bugfixes.. |
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| [02:00:00] | mchou: | juanchotazo: huh?? |
| [02:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | juanchotazo: there was a release 2 weeks ago |
| [02:01:00] | mchou: | juanchotazo: what features? |
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| [02:01:00] | mchou: | myth 0.18 has been quite stable for me :) |
| [02:01:00] | juanchotazo: | GreyFoxx: I know :) but are there schedules for releases? |
| [02:01:00] | phar0e: | hyperstream: do you have dvb and v4l compiled in as modules in your kernel? |
| [02:01:00] | juanchotazo: | mchou: dont update then ;) |
| [02:01:00] | hyperstream: | yep |
| [02:01:00] | mchou: | juanchotazo: I havent |
| [02:02:00] | phar0e: | and having both doesn't cause problems? do you have to load the dvb modules first so there aren't problems? |
| [02:02:00] | mchou: | juanchotazo: I think you're complaining for the sake of complaining |
| [02:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | juanchotazo: no |
| [02:02:00] | hyperstream: | 1 sec |
| [02:02:00] | Brov: | How many developers (who actually have rights to update source) and how many contributors (who post tickets with code) are there working on MythTV |
| [02:03:00] | juanchotazo: | GreyFoxx: ah, anyways good job on myth, just a few glitches, but I cant complain, it is still a young project |
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| [02:03:00] | mchou: | juanchotazo: lol. I'd hardly call myth "young" |
| [02:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | Brov: very few people submit code with tickets reallhy |
| [02:03:00] | hyperstream: | video works fine |
| [02:03:00] | hyperstream: | ALSA lib control.c:817:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL /dev/mixer |
| [02:03:00] | mchou: | it's been around for at least 2.5 yrs. |
| [02:03:00] | hyperstream: | i get that tho i had to add dvb_btxx to /etc/modules to make it auto probe it |
| [02:03:00] | quantum_: | kormoc, well I tried muting each channel one by one with alsamixer....no affect |
| [02:03:00] | mchou: | that's ancient as far as sw goes |
| [02:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | but maybe 4–5 "core" developers with several others also having commit access |
| [02:04:00] | Brov: | and how many hours a week does that total to? |
| [02:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | *shrug* as many as those developers choose to do in that particular week ? |
| [02:05:00] | phar0e: | hyperstream: do you have firmware loaded for your dvb device? |
| [02:05:00] | hyperstream: | not sure phar0e |
| [02:05:00] | hyperstream: | let me chk |
| [02:05:00] | Brov: | i was just curious on average 40–120 (thats everyone combined not some amphetamine fueled supergeek) |
| [02:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | Brov: No idea |
| [02:06:00] | Brov: | fiar enuff |
| [02:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | every works on whaat they want when they havetime/feal likeit |
| [02:06:00] | quantum_: | amixer set Line,0 75%,75% mute captur |
| [02:06:00] | Brov: | and who is the dude who started it all is he on here |
| [02:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | Isaac, aka Chutt |
| [02:06:00] | quantum_: | is that the command that should fix it? it doesn't do it |
| [02:06:00] | Brov: | OK yer i thought it was him |
| [02:07:00] | Brov: | He's like got his own religion now the Chursh of MythTV |
| [02:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [02:07:00] | hyperstream: | phar0e, cant see anything aobut firmware in v4l |
| [02:07:00] | briand: | chursh? sounds like they condone alcohol usage, anyway... |
| [02:08:00] | Brov: | hehe |
| [02:08:00] | phar0e: | ok thanks hyperstream , going to try adding my dvb module to autoload first |
| [02:08:00] | hyperstream: | no worries |
| [02:08:00] | Brov: | one day someone will build a keyboard that actually types what keys i press, instead of just adding the odd one in itself when is feels like it |
| [02:09:00] | Shdwdrgn: | anyone seen issues with zap2it info being off by several hours? Most channels are correct, but there is a large number that are all off by 3 hours. |
| [02:09:00] | briand: | I thought dvorak already did that... |
| [02:09:00] | Brov: | its done it again!!! 'when is feels' what does that mean? |
| [02:09:00] | hyperstream: | brb |
| [02:09:00] | hyperstream: | reboot |
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| [02:13:00] | Nemesis: | Need a quick tip. I just got my mythbox up finally and I have it running smooth through my Desktop LCD. How do I push the video stream out to my TV? I have S-Video hooked up but I'm not sure what I need to configure |
| [02:14:00] | Shdwdrgn: | I've been trying to get s3switch to work... it let's you select which output is used, but I think you have to set up your x config file a special way to get the output to actually display on the tv |
| [02:16:00] | Nemesis: | Shdwdrgn, If I wanted to try s3switch how do I access it? |
| [02:16:00] | briand: | Shdwdrgn: surf to www.zap2it.com, and look up your listing schedule in their web interface. If it's off by 3 hours on some channels there, then complain that their listing info is incorrect. If it isn't off by 3 hours on their web page, then complain that their zap2it labs feed does not match their own web page. |
| [02:17:00] | briand: | Shdwdrgn: ...but in both cases, complain to -them- . :) |
| [02:18:00] | Nemesis: | Where can I find my x-config file? I am running KnoppMyth |
| [02:22:00] | Kelerion: | /etc/X11 probably |
| [02:22:00] | Nemesis: | Thanks Kelerion |
| [02:23:00] | Kelerion: | brb |
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| [02:26:00] | quantum_: | I am getting this freeking echo on, myth sounds like it is something to do with the playback channel not being muted |
| [02:26:00] | quantum_: | I have tried amixer set Line,0 75%,75% mute capture |
| [02:26:00] | quantum_: | but that doesn't do anything to fix it |
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| [02:28:00] | quantum_: | is anyone online |
| [02:29:00] | quantum_: | this echo echo problem really sucks |
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| [02:29:00] | briand: | quantum_: type> alsactl --version |
| [02:29:00] | briand: | quantum_: compare that output to >> cat /proc/asound/version |
| [02:30:00] | quantum_: | alsactl version 1.0.10rc3 |
| [02:30:00] | briand: | do they compare? |
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| [02:30:00] | quantum_: | Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.10rc3. |
| [02:30:00] | quantum_: | Compiled on Dec 14 2005 for kernel 2.6.14–1.1653_FC4. |
| [02:30:00] | briand: | quantum_: now try > amixer --version |
| [02:30:00] | quantum_: | yup |
| [02:31:00] | quantum_: | amixer version 1.0.10rc3 |
| [02:31:00] | briand: | mute the line in. use `alsactl store` to save your settings. reboot. |
| [02:32:00] | quantum_: | I have to reboot after muting an audio channel? |
| [02:32:00] | briand: | you don't _have_ to do anything. you came here seeking advice. you've been given some. |
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| [02:33:00] | briand: | you may do with it what you wish. |
| [02:35:00] | Nemesis: | What is the best way to edit my XF86Config-4? do I just use VI? |
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| [02:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | Nemesis: that's all I ever do |
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| [02:35:00] | hyperstream: | hmm |
| [02:36:00] | hyperstream: | nforce drivers and drivering me upering the walling -_- |
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| [02:36:00] | Nemesis: | Doesn't that break the md5? |
| [02:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | Nemesis: Ummm huh ? |
| [02:37:00] | Nemesis: | GreyFoxx, was reading a forum and it said to use dpkg-reconfigure or xserver-xfree86 for editing... |
| [02:37:00] | Nemesis: | Got me |
| [02:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | Nemesis: Well, if you are constrained by your package system I suppose that could be a problem |
| [02:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's not an issue for me |
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| [02:40:00] | Nemesis: | GreyFoxx, Cool... I'm in it now.... |
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| [02:41:00] | quantum_: | yeah alright looks like you were right about rebooting, that worked for some reason |
| [02:42:00] | quantum_: | but now it killed my remote control, very weird |
| [02:42:00] | quantum_: | let me try to restart lircd |
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| [02:45:00] | briand: | evening, Juski |
| [02:45:00] | briand: | re-hi kormoc |
| [02:45:00] | kormoc: | mornin' briand |
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| [02:45:00] | Nemesis: | Where do I change input from monitor to S-Video? I ran my install on my desktop LCD and now I want to push out to the TV |
| [02:45:00] | kormoc: | Nemesis, your xorg.conf and it all depends on your video driver |
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| [02:46:00] | Juski: | evening briand |
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| [02:48:00] | Nemesis: | kormoc, I am using a hauppauge pvr-150... or do I need to know the video card drivers? |
| [02:48:00] | kormoc: | Nemesis, video card drivers, aye |
| [02:48:00] | ** Juski can't sleep, so starts to play with a theme idea ** | |
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| [02:50:00] | briand: | Juski: you are forbidden to think about the theme idea I have in mind. ;) |
| [02:50:00] | Juski: | what theme idea? |
| [02:50:00] | Juski: | I'm not thinking btw.. I'm kinda doing |
| [02:51:00] | briand: | heh. okay.. well, it'd better not be -my- idea, is all. :) |
| [02:51:00] | briand: | of course, I can't tell ya.. cuz then you'll be plagued by it, and end up writing it instead of yours. |
| [02:51:00] | Juski: | hey everyone gets credit where it's due in my operation |
| [02:52:00] | Juski: | briand: so what is it? another blue coloured theme? ;-) |
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| [02:52:00] | kormoc: | Juski, what about a blue coloured theme! |
| [02:52:00] | briand: | you have a problem with blue? it's my favorite color! |
| [02:52:00] | briand: | or, colour, even. ;) |
| [02:52:00] | Juski: | heh |
| [02:53:00] | Juski: | I'm not a fan of the colour blue, but I have to concede it works |
| [02:53:00] | kormoc: | Juski, a nice black/dark theme would be cool |
| [02:54:00] | Nemesis: | kormoc, Where do I look to find my current video drivers? |
| [02:54:00] | briand: | what *is* your favorite color? |
| [02:54:00] | kormoc: | Nemesis, likely your xorg.conf file |
| [02:54:00] | Juski: | I don't have a favourite colour :-P |
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| [02:55:00] | Juski: | kormoc... black/dark? I'll get right on it |
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| [02:57:00] | Juski: | all we need next is Majel Barret voicing the audio feedback ;-) |
| [02:57:00] | kormoc: | hehe |
| [02:57:00] | Kelerion: | the comp voice from trek? |
| [02:57:00] | ScribbleJ: | Has anyone put together binary packages for Ubuntu Breezy Badger of .19 yet? |
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| [02:58:00] | kormoc: | Juski, abstract is nice, but it's a little... hard to use, if you understand |
| [02:58:00] | jarango: | Can you do page up and page down in mythmusic instead of scrolling song by song ? |
| [02:58:00] | Juski: | yeh.. bit hard on the eyes too |
| [02:58:00] | Juski: | and only 4:3 |
| [02:58:00] | briand: | Juski: you authored 'abstract' ? |
| [02:59:00] | laga: | re |
| [02:59:00] | kormoc: | Juski, yeah. I'm using gant right now, but it's a bit too... light for my tastes. |
| [02:59:00] | Juski: | briand: no I didn't do 'abstract' |
| [02:59:00] | Juski: | I'm a new boy to the theme game |
| [02:59:00] | Juski: | wb laga |
| [03:00:00] | Brov: | anyone know why i get this when i apt-get 'Package libdvdcss has no installation candidate'? |
| [03:00:00] | laga: | Juski: :) |
| [03:00:00] | ** kormoc ponders gnat in darker colors ** | |
| [03:00:00] | Juski: | Brov: distro packagers covering their asses |
| [03:00:00] | Brov: | so i have to install from source |
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| [03:00:00] | Juski: | probs |
| [03:00:00] | laga: | Brov: check /usr/share7doc/libdvdread/examples/ |
| [03:00:00] | laga: | Brov: check /usr/share/doc/libdvdread/examples/ |
| [03:00:00] | Brov: | ok |
| [03:01:00] | Brov: | yer i downloaded the source but then noticed there was a diff one under a debian folder and didnt wanna get it wrong |
| [03:02:00] | Nemesis: | kormoc: Here is the video adapter: Intel 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller 64MB |
| [03:02:00] | kormoc: | Nemesis, you sure it has tvout? |
| [03:03:00] | Brov: | libdvdcss-1.2.9.tar.bz2 VERSUS libdvdcss2-dev_1.2.9–1_i386.deb |
| [03:03:00] | Nemesis: | kormoc, Crap, I can't go TV-Out from my capture card? |
| [03:03:00] | kormoc: | Nemesis, not a pvr 150, nope |
| [03:04:00] | kormoc: | Nemesis, only the pvr 350 can do tvout |
| [03:04:00] | ScribbleJ: | You're better off with a cheap video card and a 150 IMO – the 350's tv out is pretty bad for things other tham mpeg I hear. |
| [03:05:00] | ** Juski agrees with ScribbleJ ** | |
| [03:05:00] | Nemesis: | kormoc, lol I wasn't even thinking... Looks like I need to go shopping. Do you have any recommendations for a relatively cheap card that works well? |
| [03:05:00] | kormoc: | Nemesis, I would get a nVidia 6200 or so |
| [03:05:00] | jarango: | Can you do page up and page down in mythmusic instead of scrolling song by song ? |
| [03:05:00] | ScribbleJ: | Nvidia – almost anything these days. 5200 + |
| [03:05:00] | kormoc: | Nemesis, will do HDTV no problem, as well as only be around $60 or so |
| [03:06:00] | ScribbleJ: | Oh, is 6200 so cheap? |
| [03:06:00] | ** briand doesn't agree with ScribbleJ or Juski ... but then briand only uses his television for television.. ** | |
| [03:06:00] | Nemesis: | kormoc, Nvidia is the best way to go then? |
| [03:06:00] | kormoc: | ScribbleJ, yeah, I got a 128 meg 6200 for just under $60 |
| [03:06:00] | ScribbleJ: | Definitely nvidia. I have ATI – worst decision ever. Their linux support is horrid. |
| [03:06:00] | kormoc: | Nemesis, imho, yes. has the best linux drivers if you don't mind their drivers |
| [03:07:00] | Nemesis: | kormoc, my machine doesn't have an AGP slot. Will a PCI card handle the output? |
| [03:07:00] | kormoc: | Nemesis, sure should. I used a 5200 pci card for a long time just fine |
| [03:10:00] | Nemesis: | kormoc, I appreciate the help here. One last question: I have another machine that I would really prefer to use but it would force me to use SATA drives and a PCI Express video card. Will that just be a plain B**** to configure? |
| [03:10:00] | kormoc: | Nemesis, is the sata controler is supported, not at all |
| [03:10:00] | kormoc: | Nemesis, pci-e nvidia cards are perfectly supported |
| [03:10:00] | ScribbleJ: | Nemesis, what kind of machine are you putting it on now? |
| [03:11:00] | Nemesis: | kormoc, I am running KnoppMyth |
| [03:11:00] | Brov: | laga: muchos gracias |
| [03:11:00] | ScribbleJ: | I personally run mythtv-backend on a PIII-750 and the frontend on another machine. |
| [03:11:00] | kormoc: | Nemesis, it all depends on the kernel support really |
| [03:11:00] | Nemesis: | kormoc, The machine I am loading it on currently is a Dimension 2350.... The machine I want to load it on is an Optiplex GX620 |
| [03:12:00] | laga: | Brov: de nada |
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| [03:12:00] | Nemesis: | The GX620 is form factor and just loaded with power. But it was so much easier to get it running on the older hardware |
| [03:13:00] | Brov: | was /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/.... for me on knoppmyth 1.30 |
| [03:13:00] | Brov: | hopefully now i can test out those buttons i setup in xine for angle menus etc |
| [03:13:00] | laga: | Brov: my guess wasnt bad then if you consider that i'm pretty wasted ;) |
| [03:13:00] | ScribbleJ: | Is anyone here using the firewire support in Myth? |
| [03:14:00] | Brov: | laga: your guess prolly saved me many hours and a fscked machine |
| [03:14:00] | Brov: | i just wrote the location for the logs |
| [03:14:00] | Juski: | laga: I've sobered up |
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| [03:15:00] | laga: | Brov: heh. well, me being drunk probably saved you that since that stuff is not to be discussed here, actually. (does the writing on that black helicopter behind you say 'MPAA'?) |
| [03:15:00] | laga: | Juski: how would you do that? i didn't visit the gallery. |
| [03:16:00] | laga: | never mind. |
| [03:16:00] | laga: | (parse error) |
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| [03:19:00] | Juski: | the gallery? |
| [03:19:00] | ** Juski is lost now ;) ** | |
| [03:20:00] | Brov: | AudioMenu, SubpictureMenu and AngleMenu dont seem to do anything in xine |
| [03:20:00] | jarango: | Can I launch xmms from mythtv ? how /. |
| [03:21:00] | Juski: | xmas? not even had summertime yet |
| [03:21:00] | kormoc: | jarango, how would you control it? |
| [03:21:00] | jarango: | kormoc: lirc |
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| [03:22:00] | kormoc: | jarango, you can launch xmms via lirc |
| [03:22:00] | kormoc: | iirc |
| [03:22:00] | kormoc: | jarango, myth doesn't support launching it I don't think |
| [03:22:00] | jarango: | kormoc: Won't it interfere with mythtv lirc commands ? |
| [03:22:00] | kormoc: | jarango, no matter how it's done, it's gonna be a mess |
| [03:23:00] | laga: | Juski: i misunderstood something. i thought you'd said "i've sobered YOU up" ;) |
| [03:23:00] | jarango: | kormoc: Do you use mythmusic ? |
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| [03:23:00] | kormoc: | jarango, nope |
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| [03:23:00] | dev-: | wasnt there a writeup about controlling digital cable boxes on mythtv.org somewhere |
| [03:23:00] | dev-: | could have sworn i saw it there |
| [03:23:00] | jarango: | kormoc: Why a mess ? |
| [03:23:00] | laga: | dev-: try www.mythtv.org/wiki/ |
| [03:24:00] | kormoc: | jarango, just normal mess of multiple lirc program stuff |
| [03:24:00] | dev-: | laga: thanks |
| [03:24:00] | jarango: | kormoc: I have xine and mplayer with lircrc and there is no mess |
| [03:25:00] | kormoc: | jarango, then there won't be a mess with xmms and myth |
| [03:25:00] | jarango: | jarango: I call mplayer from mythvideo and xine from mythdvd |
| [03:25:00] | jarango: | kormoc: What I want to know is if mythtv has a way of launching programs |
| [03:25:00] | laga: | that just felt oddly recursive. |
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| [03:26:00] | kormoc: | jarango, not via that no, hence the sudgestion of having lirc launch xmms |
| [03:26:00] | Kelerion: | jarango, use irexec from your myth's lircrc.. install xmms-lirc.. use whatever lirc config that uses.. and all will be well.. but a mess.. and won't look nice |
| [03:26:00] | Kelerion: | irexec to launch xmms..that is |
| [03:27:00] | laga: | you could launch xmms from mythfrontend's menus, if you cared. |
| [03:27:00] | jarango: | Do you guys think mythmusic is missing a lot of functionality ? |
| [03:27:00] | kormoc: | jarango, of course |
| [03:27:00] | laga: | mythmusic is OK. but i <3 amarok. |
| [03:27:00] | jarango: | laga: Can you tell me how to do this ? |
| [03:28:00] | lwizardl: | hi |
| [03:28:00] | jarango: | laga: what is amarok ? |
| [03:28:00] | lwizardl: | sandos: you still here ? |
| [03:29:00] | kormoc: | jarango, http://amarok.kde.org/ |
| [03:29:00] | laga: | jarango: 1.: wait a sec, 2.: amarok is teh win, |
| [03:29:00] | DartmanX1: | is there a wiki entry on going from nuv to video ipod? I have a guy who took a video ipod to afghanistan with him |
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| [03:30:00] | kormoc: | DartmanX1, just use nuvexport's ipod export function |
| [03:30:00] | jarango: | kormoc: Can this amarok be ran in fullscreen ? |
| [03:30:00] | kormoc: | jarango, yes |
| [03:30:00] | kormoc: | jarango, if you mean maximized |
| [03:31:00] | jarango: | laga: How did you say you can launch programs withing mythtv ? |
| [03:31:00] | DartmanX1: | kormoc: I just looked at it, no ipod option |
| [03:31:00] | jarango: | kormoc: Or fullscreen (without window decorations) |
| [03:31:00] | Brov: | talking of lirc can you make one button send two commands eg send xine EventLeft and SeekRelative+15 when Right is pressed |
| [03:31:00] | kormoc: | DartmanX1, it's there, I really thought so at least... |
| [03:31:00] | Brov: | that way arrows can control menus when at menu or go ff/rw when watching dvd |
| [03:32:00] | kormoc: | jarango, donno bout that |
| [03:32:00] | laga: | jarango: wait a sec, i'm trying to find the right file |
| [03:32:00] | jarango: | laga: thanks so much |
| [03:33:00] | kormoc: | DartmanX1, it was added in about 2 months ago, see https://svn.forevermore.net/nuvexport/browser . . . d.pm?rev=216 |
| [03:33:00] | DartmanX1: | the version is 0.2 0.20050922.svn |
| [03:33:00] | DartmanX1: | ah, ok |
| [03:33:00] | lwizardl: | anyone here using a svga to component video cable for mythtv ? |
| [03:33:00] | DartmanX1: | knopmyth has an older version |
| [03:33:00] | laga: | that's interesting. jarango: you need to change the xml files in /usr/[local/]share/mythtv/ – this is usually done by copying them to ~/.mythtv/. |
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| [03:34:00] | jarango: | laga: great, thanks |
| [03:34:00] | laga: | jarango: basically, each .xml file represents one of the menus, |
| [03:34:00] | jarango: | laga: cool |
| [03:34:00] | jarango: | Does kamarok work with lircr ? |
| [03:34:00] | DartmanX1: | Im afraid to mess with anything the works |
| [03:34:00] | laga: | jarango: i'm a little bit confused now since that example is gone in 0.19, let me login to my other box |
| [03:35:00] | jarango: | laga: ok, thanks |
| [03:35:00] | DartmanX1: | I'll see if there is a util to do it in the other O/S |
| [03:35:00] | DartmanX1: | thx |
| [03:35:00] | kormoc: | jarango, likely does |
| [03:35:00] | Juski: | hmmm I'm liking this a bit: www.juski.co.uk/images/menu.png and www.juski.co.uk/images/video.png |
| [03:36:00] | kormoc: | Juski, I like the menu, just not sure what's up with the harddrive in the upper right |
| [03:36:00] | laga: | jarango: yay, here we go: http://pastebin.ca/43084 – add something like that to your favourite .xml file. the example above is gonna give you a button 'dvd kopieren' which will execute k9copy. |
| [03:36:00] | Juski: | kormoc: titles |
| [03:36:00] | kormoc: | Juski, and not too much of a fan of the brown thing on the video screen shot. |
| [03:36:00] | kormoc: | Juski, ooh? |
| [03:37:00] | Juski: | the brown thing is caused by the 'un-selected' box transparencies. easy to change |
| [03:38:00] | kormoc: | yeah, looks good :) |
| [03:38:00] | Juski: | kormoc: yeh some themes have textual graphics (?) for the menu titles. I use symbols |
| [03:38:00] | kormoc: | ahh, I see |
| [03:38:00] | laga: | Juski: i thought you were gonna take a break from theming? ;) |
| [03:38:00] | Juski: | I did already |
| [03:38:00] | Juski: | ;) |
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| [03:38:00] | Kelerion: | he can't sleep :) |
| [03:38:00] | laga: | oh, so you are finished with that break now? ;) |
| [03:39:00] | Juski: | erm.. we'll see |
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| [03:39:00] | Juski: | when I play with ideas I normally end up taking them far |
| [03:39:00] | laga: | heh |
| [03:39:00] | Juski: | then wishing I'd never started once the user emails roll in |
| [03:39:00] | kahuna_: | Hi |
| [03:39:00] | Juski: | usual shit |
| [03:40:00] | kormoc: | Juski, aww, well, I appreachiate the work you do! Thank you muchly! |
| [03:40:00] | laga: | don't give your email adress to people then...fake one ;) |
| [03:40:00] | Juski: | very very tempted to go all out on mythmusic still |
| [03:40:00] | laga: | Juski: pimp my mythmusic, please. |
| [03:40:00] | Juski: | dot matrix fonts would be kind of nifty there I think |
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| [03:41:00] | Juski: | dunno how well they'd play out on TV though |
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| [03:41:00] | laga: | ;) |
| [03:42:00] | laga: | ok, i should go to bed now, good night guys :) (4:41am here) |
| [03:42:00] | Juski: | that said, there's plenty space not used ;) |
| [03:42:00] | kormoc: | night night laga |
| [03:42:00] | Juski: | night laga |
| [03:42:00] | kahuna_: | it's early, not late |
| [03:42:00] | Juski: | I think I'll be sticking with the 3d bevel effects though |
| [03:43:00] | Juski: | and my new highlighter bars for stuff like recorded programs menu are gonna be shiny like syth's |
| [03:43:00] | Juski: | me likey shiny shiny |
| [03:43:00] | jarango: | Does mythmusic have a pagedown command ? |
| [03:44:00] | Juski: | pg dn not worky here |
| [03:44:00] | kormoc: | Juski, would it be possable to dim the whiteness of the unselected menu items? |
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| [03:44:00] | Juski: | kormoc: probably |
| [03:45:00] | Juski: | some themes use colours to highlight the highlighting |
| [03:45:00] | Juski: | not too keen on the idea, since the big buttons sort of give it away |
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| [03:46:00] | kormoc: | Juski, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's just overly white. |
| [03:46:00] | Juski: | or do you mean in the menus in general? in which case, got to be careful with gamma so nothing goes invisible |
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| [03:47:00] | kormoc: | Juski, in the menus in general. I'm just pondering using it in a dark room so I would like something that's not blinding when a recording ends sort of deal |
| [03:47:00] | Juski: | it's not blinding I don't think |
| [03:48:00] | funburn: | does anyone know the status of mouse support in mythtv? |
| [03:48:00] | kormoc: | fair nuff, you would know better :) |
| [03:48:00] | funburn: | in the features "In Development" it says "Mouse support. Would make it possible to use a touch screen to control MythTv. – option added" |
| [03:48:00] | kormoc: | funburn, same as always? |
| [03:48:00] | Juski: | I'll look into it though kormoc |
| [03:48:00] | funburn: | does "option added" mean its added to the list of features to be developed or that its been added to mythtv? |
| [03:48:00] | kormoc: | funburn, i.e. the cursor can be hidden or seen, but no input |
| [03:48:00] | Juski: | funburn – limited support in SVN IIRC |
| [03:48:00] | kormoc: | Juski, more then before? that'd be cool |
| [03:49:00] | funburn: | by limited you mean? |
| [03:49:00] | kahuna_: | has anyone come up with the prebuffering pause problem with xvmc/opengl sync yet? |
| [03:49:00] | Juski: | I think it only works with the new UI stuff anyway |
| [03:49:00] | kahuna_: | Err, a owrkaround for that problem specifically |
| [03:49:00] | Juski: | and it may well have been removed I dunno |
| [03:49:00] | kormoc: | kahuna_, turn off opengl sync? |
| [03:50:00] | Juski: | kahuna_: downgrade to 7667 or so |
| [03:50:00] | Juski: | nvidia driver I mean |
| [03:50:00] | kahuna_: | I'm running 7667. |
| [03:50:00] | kormoc: | kahuna_, so your issue is different then most people's. What's your issue? |
| [03:51:00] | kahuna_: | xvmc + opengl sync = bad. Audio cuts out randomly, lots of prebuffer pauses. |
| [03:51:00] | kahuna_: | No opengl sync – better. |
| [03:51:00] | kormoc: | kahuna_, and disabling xvmc affects things? |
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| [03:52:00] | kahuna_: | It's good without xvmc |
| [03:52:00] | kahuna_: | Stuff like this in my frontend log too: VideoOutputXv Error: Child A was already marked as available. |
| [03:52:00] | kormoc: | so then likely it's just a xvmc issue... XvMC tends to be highly dependant on the motherboard chipset. you don't have a i865 do you? |
| [03:53:00] | kahuna_: | nope |
| [03:53:00] | kormoc: | hrm, that error would seem to indicate that the xvmc lib is screwy. xvinfo looks correct? |
| [03:54:00] | kahuna_: | yes, as far as I can tell xvinfo is good. No obvious errors. |
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| [03:55:00] | kormoc: | kahuna_, hrm, that's a really odd one... |
| [03:56:00] | Juski: | kormoc: like this? www.juski.co.uk/images/newshot.png ?? |
| [03:56:00] | kahuna_: | Yup. Xvmc isn't absolutely necessary unless I'm watching HD, but I'm the type of person who gets bothered when things don't work :) |
| [03:56:00] | kormoc: | Juski, perfectly what I was thinking, aye! |
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| [03:57:00] | Juski: | easy peasy ... and I think it looks better now |
| [03:57:00] | phar0e: | hellooo |
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| [03:57:00] | Juski: | gotta eat something.. starvin' marvin here |
| [03:57:00] | kormoc: | Juski, thanks muchly :) |
| [03:57:00] | phar0e: | authentic netherland's food? |
| [03:57:00] | ** kormoc waves to the hungry themer. ** | |
| [03:58:00] | kahuna_: | lol |
| [03:58:00] | Juski: | kormoc: np fella |
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| [03:58:00] | Juski: | netherlands? I'm in the UK. my nick is just a bit random |
| [03:59:00] | phar0e: | I like you being a bit more foreign |
| [04:00:00] | phar0e: | anyone know why my keyboard doesn't work when I run mythtv-setup through vnc? the mailing list had a similar problem, but he didn't have /usr/local/lib in his ld's path, but I have that... |
| [04:00:00] | phar0e: | any other suggestions what it's looking for that would prevent the kb frmo working? |
| [04:01:00] | braniff: | phar0e, you could try to not use vnc for that |
| [04:01:00] | dev-: | heh |
| [04:01:00] | phar0e: | the machine is too far away, and is headless |
| [04:01:00] | Juski: | phar0e: no idea. works just fine here |
| [04:02:00] | braniff: | yeah could use X windows |
| [04:02:00] | phar0e: | oh? |
| [04:02:00] | phar0e: | haven't ever played with x windows |
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| [04:03:00] | Juski: | pardon my ignorance here but X == X windows? |
| [04:03:00] | dev-: | no the drug ;) |
| [04:03:00] | braniff: | the drug is nice too heh |
| [04:04:00] | braniff: | anyone from the netherlands should know that |
| [04:04:00] | phar0e: | braniff: do you mean X windows or X Windows(the microsoft OS) |
| [04:04:00] | Juski: | never experimented with 'x'... lsd on the other hand... |
| [04:04:00] | dev-: | there;s a m$ os named X Windows? |
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| [04:05:00] | ** Juski is a semi ex-windows user ** | |
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| [04:06:00] | braniff: | phar0e, x windows is the windowing system standard on modern linux systems |
| [04:06:00] | Juski: | all I need to migrate to Linux is a Photoshop rival & really shit-hot video/audio editor, then I'm there |
| [04:07:00] | dev-: | gimp is ok, but photoshops better. photoshop works in wine tho |
| [04:07:00] | Juski: | no X on the backend? at all? |
| [04:07:00] | braniff: | uhh...i've heard gimp is good |
| [04:07:00] | braniff: | but i'm no graphics guy |
| [04:07:00] | dev-: | the plugins are what makes ps way better than gimp |
| [04:07:00] | Juski: | gimp is harder work than photoshop, believe me |
| [04:08:00] | mchou: | gimp ui sucks |
| [04:08:00] | mchou: | competely non-intuitive |
| [04:08:00] | Juski: | those beveled rectangles on those screenshots I posted... 5 minutes in photoshop |
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| [04:09:00] | kormoc: | photoshop does work in wine |
| [04:09:00] | Juski: | in the GIMP hmm.... I'd still be trying to do em I think |
| [04:09:00] | kormoc: | but it's slow |
| [04:09:00] | dev-: | photoshop works fine in wine ton |
| [04:09:00] | mchou: | does gimp even have good edge detection? |
| [04:09:00] | Juski: | slower than on M$? jesus |
| [04:09:00] | kormoc: | I like kolourpaint myself, but then I'm not a gfx guy :P |
| [04:10:00] | kormoc: | Juski, donno if it's slower, I just know it's slow :P |
| [04:10:00] | Juski: | I heard inkscape was good... oh my god how does anyone draw cool stuff in that? |
| [04:10:00] | kormoc: | inkscapes the pure vector based one, right? |
| [04:10:00] | Juski: | aye |
| [04:10:00] | xpis: | mchou: yes, the assisted path/selection drawer works fine, but the interface is a bit strange. |
| [04:11:00] | mchou: | xpis: no, that's not what I meant..... |
| [04:11:00] | mchou: | there is no point if you have to draw the outline yourself :) |
| [04:11:00] | xpis: | You mean a filter to attempt to trace all edges? Yes, it has that. |
| [04:12:00] | mchou: | xpis: ok, take me thru that step by step? |
| [04:12:00] | xpis: | But that is of little use when you are trying to cut out backgrounds. |
| [04:12:00] | phar0e: | going to recompile without the joystick-menu, maybe that'll help |
| [04:12:00] | xpis: | It should be under the Filters->Artistic menu. |
| [04:12:00] | mchou: | xpis: well, that's what I'm talking about |
| [04:12:00] | phar0e: | anyone here use a HD-3000 with mythtv? i'm curious if the firmware is really required for dvb support |
| [04:13:00] | mchou: | phar0e: what's the big dealio? d/l the fw and use it |
| [04:13:00] | xpis: | mchou: you can remove a solid background easily enough with the magic wand tool. |
| [04:14:00] | mchou: | xpis: what if the bg is not solid? |
| [04:14:00] | Nemesis: | kormoc: Me again. I just ran down to the store and got an FX5200 =) It is installed and hooked up to my TV via S-VIDEO. How do I push video through it now? |
| [04:14:00] | phar0e: | mchou: the big deal is I cannot locate what is causing the firmware NOT to load.. it doesn't even attempt to, but hotplug is setup as far as I can tell.. |
| [04:14:00] | xpis: | mchou: Which photoshop feature are you talking about? |
| [04:14:00] | kormoc: | Nemesis, http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/ . . . endix-h.html |
| [04:15:00] | kormoc: | Nemesis, it's all documented there :) |
| [04:15:00] | mchou: | xpis: I dunno what it is called. but you do edge detection and you pick out the subject from the bg..... |
| [04:15:00] | Nemesis: | Awesome! Thank you |
| [04:15:00] | kormoc: | your welcome :) |
| [04:15:00] | mchou: | xpis: or vice versa, pick out the bg from the subject :) |
| [04:15:00] | xpis: | mchou: using the scissors method, you can roughly cut out the image, and it will intelligently find the edges around where you cut. |
| [04:16:00] | mchou: | xpis: that's way too much work. |
| [04:16:00] | mchou: | especially if the subject is irregular |
| [04:16:00] | kormoc: | mchou, how do you do it in photoshop? |
| [04:16:00] | mchou: | kormoc: you select edge detect, and copy and paste |
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| [04:17:00] | mchou: | kormoc: works like magic |
| [04:17:00] | xpis: | mchou: an image may have many edges all over it. |
| [04:17:00] | mchou: | 2d laplace transform |
| [04:17:00] | xpis: | mchou: if the background is blurry, you can do it in gimp with the magic wand tool. |
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| [04:19:00] | mchou: | anyway, gimp leaves a lot to be desired |
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| [04:19:00] | Juski: | but hey whaddya want for free as in beer? |
| [04:20:00] | Juski: | ;) |
| [04:20:00] | rtsai: | anyone notice that autoexpires seem not to always be logged? |
| [04:20:00] | mchou: | I mean even paintshop pro in windows is better than gimp |
| [04:20:00] | kormoc: | Juski, perhaps photoshop? ;P |
| [04:20:00] | Juski: | anyway.. 4:19am.. time to hit the hay |
| [04:20:00] | ** kormoc waves ** | |
| [04:20:00] | kormoc: | night night Juski! |
| [04:20:00] | mchou: | I remeber the good old days when paintshop pro was shareware |
| [04:20:00] | Juski: | nighty nighty folks |
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| [04:21:00] | mchou: | and that worked almost as well as ps. better even in some respects |
| [04:22:00] | xpis: | mchou: the gimp is quite powerful, even if it lacks some (patented) algorithms and commercial filters. |
| [04:22:00] | mchou: | xpis: the ui is sucky. like how do you add text over graphics? :) |
| [04:22:00] | xpis: | mchou: with the text tool. |
| [04:22:00] | xpis: | mchou: Are you even using the latest version? |
| [04:23:00] | mchou: | xpis: only with gimp2 :) |
| [04:23:00] | mchou: | gimp1 you had to create layers, lol |
| [04:23:00] | xpis: | mchou: And you aren't using gimp2? (It's been out for quite some time now) |
| [04:23:00] | mchou: | I thought that was ultra retarded |
| [04:24:00] | mchou: | sure I'm using gimp2. But ui still suck eggs |
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| [04:24:00] | xpis: | But once you get yourself past the UI, Gimp is quite powerful. |
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| [04:25:00] | mchou: | xpis: if I were a graphics artists there is no way I'd use gimp, even as a 3rd choice |
| [04:26:00] | mchou: | not even if my life depended on it. |
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| [04:26:00] | xpis: | An algorithm to find well defined shapes in an image (aka your subject) would be nice, but Adobe might sue. |
| [04:26:00] | xpis: | (they hold many patents) |
| [04:27:00] | mchou: | xpis: there is nothing to sue. 2d laplace transform does it quite well and cant be patented |
| [04:27:00] | fryfrog: | if you were a graphic artist by trade, you'd not have a problem paying $600 for PS :) |
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| [04:27:00] | mchou: | fryfrog: there is no need to pay $600. even paint shop pro works well |
| [04:27:00] | xpis: | mchou: well, someone might have implemented it.. try google. (gimp does support scripting) |
| [04:27:00] | mchou: | I think that's about $100 or so |
| [04:28:00] | kormoc: | mchou, well, you could code the 2d laplace transform for gimp then! |
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| [04:28:00] | mchou: | kormoc: cosing that isnt hard |
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| [04:28:00] | mchou: | coding* |
| [04:28:00] | fryfrog: | if your *job* was a graphics artist, i think you might even have both :) |
| [04:28:00] | kormoc: | mchou, so go help make gimp better |
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| [04:29:00] | mchou: | kormoc: screw gimp. the ui is unsalvagably hopeless |
| [04:29:00] | wakko: | can anyone here help me gt my debian on a static IP? |
| [04:29:00] | xpis: | mchou: Just because Paint Shop Pro has a nice interface, it doesn't mean it is more powerful. Gimp is quite powerful, but the UI is not good. |
| [04:29:00] | fryfrog: | actually, i used gimp2 the other day for the first time in a LONG time |
| [04:29:00] | fryfrog: | it was much much better than the last time i had tried it, granted i was doing very simple stuff |
| [04:30:00] | xpis: | mchou: the interface suffices, however, once you get familiar with it. |
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| [04:31:00] | sndguru: | question for someone "yum install mythtv-suite" "nothing to do" i'm running .18 and tring to upgrade what am I doing wrong |
| [04:32:00] | braniff: | sndguru, what distro ? |
| [04:32:00] | kormoc: | sndguru, it might not be updated in your yum sorces |
| [04:32:00] | sndguru: | sorry fc4 |
| [04:32:00] | briand: | sndguru: did you try `yum upgrade mythtv-suite` ?? |
| [04:32:00] | sndguru: | same responce |
| [04:32:00] | sndguru: | i may have broke yum tring to install ati drivers |
| [04:33:00] | xpis: | sndguru: do you have atrpms in your yum repository list? |
| [04:33:00] | briand: | sndguru: do you have ATrpms enabled? |
| [04:33:00] | sndguru: | yes |
| [04:33:00] | braniff: | the 0.19 packages are in ATrpms stable section |
| [04:33:00] | sndguru: | i would believe enabled yes |
| [04:33:00] | xpis: | sndguru: also, your dependencies may be messed up, if you tried installing non-atrpms packages. |
| [04:33:00] | sndguru: | hrmm |
| [04:33:00] | sndguru: | ok |
| [04:33:00] | sndguru: | yes the ati driver was |
| [04:34:00] | xpis: | sndguru: did you install software from freshrpms, for example? |
| [04:34:00] | xpis: | sndguru: And when you start up yum, does it query atrpms? |
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| [04:34:00] | sndguru: | no it was fedorafaq.com |
| [04:34:00] | sndguru: | or something |
| [04:35:00] | sndguru: | bloody thing' so im typing the right commadn |
| [04:35:00] | sndguru: | just yum is broken |
| [04:36:00] | sndguru: | hrmm apt-get remove yum | apt-get install yum |
| [04:36:00] | sndguru: | would reinstall yum |
| [04:36:00] | briand: | it would.. but don't do that. |
| [04:36:00] | sndguru: | :) ok |
| [04:37:00] | sndguru: | so i need to rebuild the repo's |
| [04:37:00] | sndguru: | hrmm I've done that thou |
| [04:37:00] | briand: | sndguru: the program itself isn't messed up. |
| [04:37:00] | sndguru: | the fedorafaq told me to download a new yum.conf |
| [04:37:00] | phar0e: | ok, I hooked up a monitor and keyboard to run mythtv-setup in x, keyboard still doesn't work |
| [04:38:00] | sndguru: | and rpm fadorafaq.com/yum |
| [04:38:00] | jnunez: | Q: Watch TV is locking up after 2 secs. I have a PVR 150. Only recent change is a move of the box from the floor to the entertainment center |
| [04:38:00] | dev-: | maybe you didnt compile keyboard support into your kernel ;) |
| [04:38:00] | braniff: | this line should be in /etc/apt/sources.list --> rpm http://apt.atrpms.net fedora/4/en/i386 at-stable |
| [04:38:00] | sndguru: | ok i look thanks |
| [04:39:00] | braniff: | jnunez, maybe something was shaken loose inside your box? |
| [04:40:00] | jnunez: | I opened the box and checked the cables. |
| [04:40:00] | braniff: | maybe your PCI/AGP cards need to be checked as well... |
| [04:40:00] | braniff: | that they are seated in their slots |
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| [04:41:00] | sndguru: | and then apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| [04:41:00] | jnunez: | I could have done a software change a while back and never restarted until now (I know it's bad but I have 2 hours at night to work on my box. After my daughter falls asleep) |
| [04:42:00] | braniff: | sndguru, apt-get update; apt-get install mythtv-suite will work |
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| [04:42:00] | sndguru: | braniff : it was there so tis cool to add it then |
| [04:42:00] | hyperstream: | ALSA lib control.c:817:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL /dev/snd/controlC0 |
| [04:42:00] | hyperstream: | where is alsa's mixer? |
| [04:42:00] | sndguru: | thou the header says not to :) |
| [04:43:00] | kormoc: | hyperstream, alsa mixer isn't a device like that |
| [04:43:00] | hyperstream: | hmm |
| [04:43:00] | hyperstream: | what mixer would i wanna use? |
| [04:43:00] | hyperstream: | /dev/mixer doesnt exist |
| [04:43:00] | braniff: | sndguru, just need on entry of that line |
| [04:43:00] | braniff: | s/on/one/ |
| [04:43:00] | jnunez: | Only error I get is :: vbi: Invalid argument |
| [04:43:00] | sndguru: | cool yep that's |
| [04:43:00] | hyperstream: | kormoc, ? |
| [04:43:00] | sndguru: | so that gets me around yum |
| [04:44:00] | sndguru: | thankz heaps |
| [04:44:00] | braniff: | np |
| [04:44:00] | kormoc: | hyperstream, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Alsa_Sound |
| [04:47:00] | sndguru: | should I kill mythbackend |
| [04:47:00] | hyperstream: | thanks kormoc |
| [04:47:00] | hyperstream: | look at this result tho: http://pastebin.com/571479 |
| [04:47:00] | kormoc: | your welcome |
| [04:48:00] | kormoc: | hyperstream, there's a option in the frontend to enable extra buffering, do you have that enabled? |
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| [04:49:00] | hyperstream: | agreesive sound card buffering > i just enabled it same msg's |
| [04:50:00] | kormoc: | hyperstream, well, there's two buffering options, one decreases buffer size, and one increases it. one of them should help, one wouldn't |
| [04:52:00] | hyperstream: | i cannot find the second one |
| [04:52:00] | hyperstream: | ill try in the setup |
| [04:53:00] | kormoc: | in the frontend, under tv playback settings |
| [04:53:00] | kormoc: | extra audio buffering should be enabled |
| [04:53:00] | kormoc: | aggressive buffering should be disabled |
| [04:54:00] | hyperstream: | oo found it .it was already enabled |
| [04:54:00] | hyperstream: | tryed it disabled and same thing lol |
| [04:54:00] | kormoc: | hrm |
| [04:54:00] | kormoc: | you might want to try using oss audio then, if it works better |
| [04:55:00] | jnunez: | here is an error code for my Watch TV issue "Remote encoder not responding" (if anyone can help) |
| [04:55:00] | kormoc: | jnunez, you're gonna need to read the backend logs to see why it's not responding |
| [04:56:00] | jnunez: | thanks |
| [04:56:00] | hyperstream: | i dont have oss :/ |
| [04:56:00] | hyperstream: | took it out of the kernel |
| [04:56:00] | kormoc: | hyperstream, alsa has a oss emulation layer you can enable |
| [04:56:00] | kormoc: | hyperstream, it uses the alsa driver but also has oss devices (it's highly recommended to be used) |
| [04:57:00] | jnunez: | - Can't enable VBI recording |
| [04:57:00] | jnunez: | - joined null string in WriteStringList |
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| [04:58:00] | jnunez: | null string. something is missing somewhere. |
| [04:58:00] | jnunez: | heading back to the setup |
| [05:00:00] | hyperstream: | hmm |
| [05:00:00] | hyperstream: | kormoc, so i would need to recompile it disabling alsa and enabling oss? |
| [05:00:00] | jnunez: | would changing the record profiles affect the pvr card? |
| [05:00:00] | kormoc: | hyperstream, if you disabled oss, then yes |
| [05:00:00] | hyperstream: | or enable both options |
| [05:01:00] | hyperstream: | and have a play around of might conflict? |
| [05:01:00] | kormoc: | nah, not at all |
| [05:01:00] | kormoc: | most people have support for both compiled in |
| [05:01:00] | hyperstream: | okies |
| [05:01:00] | hyperstream: | so id wanna apt-get install alsa-oss ? |
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| [05:01:00] | kormoc: | yup |
| [05:02:00] | hyperstream: | alsa-oss – ALSA wrapper for OSS applications |
| [05:02:00] | hyperstream: | kk |
| [05:02:00] | rothgar_: | has anyone here been successful in installing v4l csv for a fusionHDTV card? |
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| [05:03:00] | jnunez: | where can I find the defaults for the recording profile |
| [05:03:00] | rothgar_: | I am running on ubuntu and I am stuck with the v4l csv installation (even with looking at their wiki) |
| [05:04:00] | hyperstream: | thanks kormoc :) |
| [05:04:00] | hyperstream: | ill get back to yah on my progress |
| [05:05:00] | kormoc: | your welcome :) |
| [05:07:00] | jnunez: | kormoc: What is the strean type for the PVR cards? |
| [05:08:00] | kormoc: | jnunez, they can output slightly different styles of mpeg-2 video, those stream types are those different types of mpeg-2 |
| [05:08:00] | jnunez: | I know that is why I am lost. |
| [05:09:00] | kormoc: | what about? |
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| [05:15:00] | fatdave: | hey all. does anyone know how to get the opengl drivers working with the pvr-350 (using tv-out)? |
| [05:15:00] | fatdave: | Load "glx" is in my xconf |
| [05:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't expect you would be able to |
| [05:16:00] | fatdave: | and I do see it in my xorg log file |
| [05:16:00] | fatdave: | but glxgears doesn't work |
| [05:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | The 350 is not a "real" video card |
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| [05:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | There is no real hardware acceleration or support for OpenGL |
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| [05:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | and the ivtv X driver certainly doesn't suppor tit |
| [05:17:00] | fatdave: | so is there any way to use an emulator with it? all my games run slow |
| [05:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | Buy a faster CPU ?:) |
| [05:17:00] | fatdave: | i have a 2400+ |
| [05:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | Or if you can make the emulator use XV output |
| [05:17:00] | fatdave: | is that fast enough? |
| [05:17:00] | fatdave: | whats the command line to see what my processor speed is? |
| [05:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | I honestly can't imagine you ever getting an emulator to play very nice with a 350 without signifcant effort |
| [05:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | cat /proc/cpuinfo ? |
| [05:19:00] | fatdave: | i'm not sure what XV output is |
| [05:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | hardware accelerated video display and scaling |
| [05:19:00] | fatdave: | i don't suppose you know if fceu supports that off the top of your head do you? |
| [05:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | Sorry, I don't |
| [05:20:00] | fatdave: | ok. thanks for the help |
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| [05:24:00] | rothgar_: | has anyone built video4linux drivers from csv? |
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| [05:27:00] | fatdave: | hey GreyFoxx i just had a thought |
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| [05:27:00] | fatdave: | do I have to use the pvr-350's tv out if I also have an nVidia card with tv-out? |
| [05:27:00] | fatdave: | i'll still be able to run myth and watch tv and all right? |
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| [05:42:00] | Snack_Mage: | has anyone had trouble running mtd in FC4 after installing it using "yum install mythtv-suite"? |
| [05:42:00] | Snack_Mage: | apparently there is no /var/lib/mythdvd folder |
| [05:43:00] | Snack_Mage: | and so I can't rip dvds :( but I can play them atleast :) |
| [05:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | And you can't simple create the folder ? |
| [05:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | Or configure mythdvd to use a different location ? |
| [05:46:00] | ** GreyFoxx goes to bed ** | |
| [05:47:00] | Snack_Mage: | well I'm trying to run mtd and just learned of its existance not 4 minutes ago |
| [05:47:00] | Snack_Mage: | I don't know what besides the log file is needed in that folder |
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| [05:51:00] | hyperstream: | kormoc, whats oss entrys for audio device and mixer? |
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| [05:52:00] | bdavis: | Help! I'm trying to get my homebrew lirc receiver to work, and when I run lircd --driver=serial, I get the error "driver 'serial' not supported'. Any ideas? |
| [05:53:00] | hyperstream: | GreyFoxx, http://pastebin.com/571511 |
| [05:53:00] | hyperstream: | any idea's to that? |
| [05:53:00] | hyperstream: | ive tryed the extra buffering thingo |
| [05:56:00] | kikisli: | compile in serial support? |
| [05:58:00] | bdavis: | kikisli, does lirc have to be compiled w/ serial support? |
| [05:58:00] | kikisli: | i'm guessing |
| [05:58:00] | kikisli: | i mean i'm just guessing |
| [05:59:00] | kikisli: | how did you install it? |
| [06:00:00] | kikisli: | man, there must be 3 or 4 people in the whole world that's tried using a firewire connection from a 6200 cable box |
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| [06:03:00] | amy-21: | Hi all...I just was wondering what the best way to calculate a modline for a tv if i dont have the spects on the tv |
| [06:05:00] | bdavis: | Anyone here use minimyth? |
| [06:10:00] | kikisli: | amy-21: google :) |
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| [06:20:00] | amy-21: | I have been looking for the specs on my tv |
| [06:20:00] | amy-21: | and I havent been able to find it on google at all |
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| [06:40:00] | phar0e: | night amy |
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| [06:42:00] | phar0e: | any hotplug/firmware persons available? I cannot get slackware to ask for my PCI device's firmware. |
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| [07:12:00] | akira: | are there any digital tv capture cards available with linux drivers? |
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| [07:36:00] | nuxil: | hi gents |
| [07:36:00] | nuxil: | how is mythtv compared to freevo ? |
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| [07:37:00] | Nemesis: | Is there an easy way to update Nvidia drivers (ie nvidia-installer)? |
| [07:37:00] | nuxil: | yes sir |
| [07:38:00] | nuxil: | go to nvidia's hp and dl a driver |
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| [07:41:00] | Nemesis: | nuxil, I'm running KnoppMyth. How abouts do I go to Nvidia's hp? |
| [07:42:00] | nuxil: | Nemesis you should have firefox |
| [07:42:00] | nuxil: | if not.. apt-get instal firefox |
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| [07:42:00] | nuxil: | http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp |
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| [07:47:00] | cosmo_: | anyone ever have the experience of seeing a needed module come up in the search function of menuconfig, but not appear where it's supposed to be? I cant actually navigate to it and turn it on! |
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| [07:51:00] | bdavis: | Grrr.. I'm running mythtv on an epia motherboard hooked up through my TV. The GUI looks fine and fills the screen, however when I watch TV or view recordings, the image is sqeezed horizontally. Why is this happening? |
| [07:51:00] | ScribbleJ: | bdavis, what resolution are you recording at? |
| [07:51:00] | bdavis: | ScribbleJ, not sure... How do I find out? |
| [07:52:00] | ScribbleJ: | The menus always confuse me... look under setup for the place where you choose your transcoders |
| [07:52:00] | bdavis: | ScribbleJ, Is that on the mythsetup menu? |
| [07:52:00] | bdavis: | or from the mythfrontend interface? |
| [07:53:00] | ScribbleJ: | I think it's accessable from both, but I could be mistaken... I'm up late and high on dayquil. |
| [07:54:00] | ScribbleJ: | My thinking is perhaps you picked a resolution likw 640x480 but TV in the us is more like 480x480 and so you get extra blackness, which then throws off the aspect ratio on playback. But I could be making all that up too. |
| [07:54:00] | bdavis: | Scribble: It looks like it's 480x480... |
| [07:55:00] | ScribbleJ: | I am happy because I have upgraded my Ubuntu packages to .19 and my mythtv frontend on my Xbox as well. |
| [07:55:00] | ScribbleJ: | Well, hrm. when you say squeezed horizontally do you see black on the top and bottom then or is it more like it fills the screen but the people's dimensions are off? |
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| [07:56:00] | bdavis: | ScribbleJ, There's black on the left and right |
| [07:56:00] | bdavis: | ...and it looks squeezed |
| [07:56:00] | ScribbleJ: | Oh, sheesh, my bad. Hrm. Are you at an odd screen resolution? |
| [07:56:00] | bdavis: | my screen resolution is 800x600... |
| [07:57:00] | ScribbleJ: | That doesn't seem too odd to me. |
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| [07:57:00] | oneforall: | hey does myhttv works with the winTV2000 |
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| [08:03:00] | bdavis: | ScribbleJ, I set the "Aspect Override" setting to "Fill". That seemed to fix it. |
| [08:03:00] | ScribbleJ: | Sweet! |
| [08:04:00] | ScribbleJ: | Sorry I couldnt' help more. |
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| [09:11:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | Hi guys — After updating to 19, I can't find what I need to change/add in .htaccess — it would appear that the upgrade didn't overwrite my existing file, and I can't seem to find an example with the 'new' entries anywhere. Any pointers? |
| [09:13:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | ie: the README file says " edit the files |
| [09:13:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | config/conf.php and .htaccess (instructions for what to set are included in |
| [09:13:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | the file). |
| [09:13:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | ", but there are no such instructions in my files — they appear to have not been replaced with new versions. Did I miss something? |
| [09:14:00] | dtm: | J-e-f-f-A: by what means did you upgrade |
| [09:14:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | yum upgrade mythtv-suite --- was that a mistake? |
| [09:14:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | forgot to mention — running FC4 |
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| [09:21:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | Anybody willing to help, please? |
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| [09:26:00] | kury: | do I need to have anything other than v4l enabled in my kernel to use my haupauge pvr 350 card? |
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| [09:27:00] | dtm: | does anyone here use mupen64? |
| [09:27:00] | dtm: | n64 emulator |
| [09:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | dtm: yeah |
| [09:28:00] | dtm: | J-e-f-f-A: did you check to see if rpm wrote a .rpmnew file in the same dir? |
| [09:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well I broke my entire mythtv install |
| [09:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | haha |
| [09:28:00] | dtm: | SlicerDicer-: it works ok with mythtv? |
| [09:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I dont know yet as I broke it lol |
| [09:28:00] | dtm: | SlicerDicer-: i'm just trying to get mupen64 to run at all |
| [09:28:00] | dtm: | oic |
| [09:28:00] | dtm: | SlicerDicer-: do you have a handle on it now? :) |
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| [09:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | dtm: what my broken mythbox? |
| [09:29:00] | dtm: | yeah |
| [09:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hell no I dont know what to do lol |
| [09:29:00] | dtm: | what did you do |
| [09:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | upgraded |
| [09:29:00] | dtm: | what prompted it |
| [09:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | like a idiot |
| [09:29:00] | kury: | do I need to have anything other than v4l enabled in my kernel to use my haupauge pvr 350 card? |
| [09:29:00] | dtm: | oh. |
| [09:29:00] | dtm: | well good luck with that whole thing. ^_^ |
| [09:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | dtm: I just dont know what to do |
| [09:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | haha |
| [09:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am looking around for upgrade documents |
| [09:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | :) |
| [09:30:00] | dtm: | kury: you need the card's driver |
| [09:30:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | SlicerDicer: me too... Myth is working great — mythweb on the other hand... argghhhh! |
| [09:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | J-e-f-f-A: ohh my frontend wont work nothing |
| [09:31:00] | kury: | dtm: I know I need the ivtv drivers for this card but don't I need to compile something into the kernel aswell? |
| [09:31:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | dtm: No, I didn't check. I'm pretty new to linux. I did a 'find / -name .rpmnew' now and didn't find anything |
| [09:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | dtm: do you use gentoo? |
| [09:31:00] | dtm: | SlicerDicer-: hell no. |
| [09:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
| [09:31:00] | kury: | dtm: what do you use? |
| [09:32:00] | dtm: | J-e-f-f-A: that wouldn't find em anyway. they're *.rpmnew. go look in the exact dir you're talking about and just use 'ls -la' |
| [09:32:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | SlicerDicer: ouch! — I'm running FC4 — Everything seems to be working fine except mythweb. the readme tells me to update the .htaccess file as documented in the file, yet the file was not updated... go figure. |
| [09:32:00] | dtm: | kury: centos 4 and macos |
| [09:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | J-e-f-f-A: the problem is I dont know what to do with gentoo haah |
| [09:33:00] | dtm: | kury: my backend is on Yellowdog Linux 3 heavily custom upgraded to even *try* to run myth 0.18.1 ;) my frontend is on macos, soon to move to centos. |
| [09:33:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | dtm: Humm... look at that ".htaccess.rpmnew" ... I think you've hit the nail on the head... |
| [09:33:00] | kury: | dtm: cool.. |
| [09:33:00] | dtm: | J-e-f-f-A: i know :) |
| [09:33:00] | dtm: | i did go figure ;) |
| [09:33:00] | dtm: | har++ |
| [09:33:00] | dtm: | \o/ |
| [09:34:00] | kury: | so.. do I need anything other than the ivtv driver for my card do you know? |
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| [09:35:00] | dtm: | SlicerDicer-: what cpu are you running mupen64 on? i have a duron 1300 MHz and it's barely playable. it skips with audio but it looks great. |
| [09:35:00] | SlicerDicer-: | dtm: 3500+ AMD64 |
| [09:35:00] | dtm: | that'll do, donkey ;) |
| [09:36:00] | dtm: | i just compiled mupen64 0.5 |
| [09:36:00] | dtm: | i was astonished to see that it worked worth a crap on this hardware |
| [09:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | dtm: part of the problem |
| [09:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mythbackend.log says dick about whats going on |
| [09:38:00] | dtm: | SlicerDicer-: oic |
| [09:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | my backend wont fireup |
| [09:38:00] | dtm: | SlicerDicer-: delete the lock file |
| [09:38:00] | dtm: | failing that, strace it |
| [09:40:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | dtm: THANK YOU! ;-) I will forever remember ".rpmnew"... ;-) |
| [09:40:00] | dtm: | :-o |
| [09:40:00] | dtm: | J-e-f-f-A: \o/ |
| [09:40:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | dtm: looking great now — like the new interface! |
| [09:40:00] | dtm: | well done sir |
| [09:40:00] | dtm: | i need to upgrade too! |
| [09:41:00] | dtm: | i wonder if it'll even build on my ancient backend! 0.18.1 took 45 minutes once it finally would build. |
| [09:41:00] | dtm: | once i forced it to not try to use altivec |
| [09:41:00] | dtm: | on my g3 |
| [09:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | dtm: Duplicate column name 'transcoder' |
| [09:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yay thats my problem |
| [09:41:00] | dtm: | :-o |
| [09:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | and to hell if I know what to do about it |
| [09:42:00] | dtm: | SlicerDicer-: what's saying that? the myth log? |
| [09:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | when I run mythbackend |
| [09:42:00] | dtm: | SlicerDicer-: maybe you can look at it with a mysql browser and see if it makes sense |
| [09:42:00] | dtm: | or google the error |
| [09:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | google does shit |
| [09:43:00] | dtm: | does it, now |
| [09:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am rebooting the computer just out of spite |
| [09:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
| [09:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I think I have a jammed process |
| [09:43:00] | dtm: | ha. |
| [09:43:00] | dtm: | why do you think that? |
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| [09:44:00] | brtab395: | SlicerDicer-: It sounds like the mythbackend is trying to upgrade the database. The table already has a column called transcoder in it and probably not the right definition. |
| [09:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | brtab395: I tried deleting it |
| [09:44:00] | dtm: | SlicerDicer-: you could restart mysql or run a data integrity check |
| [09:44:00] | dtm: | mysql != data integrity |
| [09:44:00] | awilkins: | Arrgh. One of my hard disks decided to develop bad blocks right in the middle of the filesystem metadata. On an LVM2 volume set. |
| [09:44:00] | dtm: | awilkins: :----[ |
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| [09:45:00] | awilkins: | Presently doing a blockwise copy of 300GB hard drive using dd in the vain hope that enough data will survive to reconstruct the volume group. |
| [09:45:00] | dtm: | :-o |
| [09:46:00] | awilkins: | It's been going over 7 hours :-( |
| [09:46:00] | awilkins: | A cylinder level copy only took 2–3 hours, but it left out too many chunks |
| [09:46:00] | dtm: | :[ |
| [09:47:00] | dtm: | no backups huh |
| [09:47:00] | awilkins: | Now I think of it, I should just have noted the bad cylinders and redone them at the 1024byte block level |
| [09:47:00] | dtm: | good idea. |
| [09:47:00] | awilkins: | Backing up over 400GB of data is a diffcult prospect |
| [09:47:00] | dtm: | if it doesn't lock the whole system up, you could run 'badblocks' with an mke2fs compatible output |
| [09:48:00] | dtm: | if you're able to use that output for your block level copy, as you say |
| [09:48:00] | awilkins: | The small block copy should be nearly done |
| [09:48:00] | dtm: | and then unless your drives are too damaged, you can run a nondestructive write test to prompt the drives to move the bad data. |
| [09:48:00] | awilkins: | IT had done about 250 million blocks out of 290 last I looked. |
| [09:49:00] | awilkins: | Yeah, it only had 11 cylinders with duff blocks |
| [09:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | dtm: got it |
| [09:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | had to delete a couple entries in mysql hehe |
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| [09:54:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | Anyone out here have a Pinnacle Show Center 1000 that they're using with MythTV? |
| [09:55:00] | dtm: | SlicerDicer-: \o/ |
| [09:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | BLAH!!! |
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| [09:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it aint working |
| [09:57:00] | awilkins: | You could back your data up, delete your database, and then script your old data into the new one with some SQL |
| [09:59:00] | dtm: | SlicerDicer-: :[ |
| [09:59:00] | dtm: | awilkins: the backup process creates all the sql |
| [10:00:00] | awilkins: | Yeah, but it's in the old schema |
| [10:00:00] | dtm: | oic |
| [10:00:00] | dtm: | i bet someone's discussed that in a forum or list! |
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| [10:00:00] | awilkins: | I usually use phpmyadmin for this sort of major DB operations. Or SQLYog |
| [10:01:00] | dtm: | yeah. |
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| [10:03:00] | awilkins: | All you really need are the records for your recordings and maybe the old recordings (if you don't want your scheduler to start re-recording reruns). |
| [10:03:00] | awilkins: | The rest is just setting it up again, which is a pain. |
| [10:04:00] | ** awilkins listens to his disks spin onward toward block 290 million ** | |
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| [10:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | bah my database is fried :/ |
| [10:07:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | SlicerDicer: Ouch. I hope that doesn't happen to me... 800GB LVM... |
| [10:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ohh its not that terrible |
| [10:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | only 48 programs |
| [10:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | sucks though |
| [10:10:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am backing up the database of course |
| [10:10:00] | SlicerDicer-: | just incase |
| [10:10:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but yeah it dont look good |
| [10:10:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | SlicerDicer: I've got a DDS3 tape backup here from work (they threw out an old server with it in there...) Now to install it and setup daily backups of my database... |
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| [10:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I got backups elsewhere but I dont know if they will do any good |
| [10:11:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | (hopefully BEFORE anything happens...) |
| [10:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yep the update of mythtv works real well heh |
| [10:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | this is why I dont upgrade my mythbox |
| [10:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its been running fine for over a year |
| [10:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I go to upgrade and everything explodes |
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| [10:13:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | Well, the only two problems I had were 1) Mythweb, and 2) MythStreamTV. 'dtm' saved the day for me by teaching me about the '.rpmnew' files, and it looks like there's a patch out for MythStreamTV, so things are looking up... |
| [10:16:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | Nobody here using a Pinnacle Show Center 1000, eh? Not much in the archives either. |
| [10:16:00] | awilkins: | Nope. I'm a DVB boy. |
| [10:16:00] | awilkins: | So much better than the old analogue cards |
| [10:16:00] | awilkins: | Although I was glad of my crusty old BT848 at university, one less box to haul. |
| [10:19:00] | dtm: | J-e-f-f-A: what capacity is your DDS3 |
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| [10:21:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well dtm I found out what went wrong |
| [10:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | for some reason upgrading it nuked out my basename directory so it lost all my nuv information :/ |
| [10:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | err basename sql table rather |
| [10:23:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | dtm: Sorry — was in a private chat... It's a 12GB native/24GB compressed. I got 12 tapes and a cleaning cart too! |
| [10:23:00] | phar0e: | any firewire users here? |
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| [10:24:00] | sndguru: | a question for someone – my mythbackend is running as nobody so it is stuff everything up what do I need to change |
| [10:28:00] | sndguru: | hrmm or maybe not the upgrade has change the premissions on the capture cards |
| [10:28:00] | sndguru: | :) |
| [10:32:00] | dtm: | SlicerDicer-: wow. so you hadn't done a backup huh |
| [10:32:00] | dtm: | SlicerDicer-: is it working now? |
| [10:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | dtm: hell if I can find my backup |
| [10:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I have one I just dont know where it is :/ |
| [10:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | unless I deleted it by mistake |
| [10:33:00] | dtm: | lalalala |
| [10:33:00] | dtm: | SlicerDicer-: well good luck |
| [10:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I can restore it though it will just take a metric ton of time |
| [10:33:00] | dtm: | SlicerDicer-: i got my adaptoid working partially with mupen64. it doesn't like my D pad. |
| [10:37:00] | awilkins: | Finally! block 290million.,.. |
| [10:38:00] | ** awilkins crosses his fingers ** | |
| [10:38:00] | ** awilkins \O/ ** | |
| [10:39:00] | awilkins: | LVM volume is online |
| [10:39:00] | dtm: | awilkins: \o/ |
| [10:39:00] | dtm: | awilkins: where'd you make this backup to?! |
| [10:40:00] | awilkins: | Another identical drive |
| [10:40:00] | awilkins: | THe problem I was having was that xfs_repair can't cope with i/o errors |
| [10:40:00] | awilkins: | so the drive was hitting bad sectors and xfs_repair was going "ooooh... no" |
| [10:41:00] | awilkins: | So I've just duped the disk to another identical drive |
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| [10:41:00] | awilkins: | removed the old one and remounted the LVM |
| [10:41:00] | awilkins: | Happily, the volume group metadata seems to be intact |
| [10:42:00] | awilkins: | Just eh filesystem is a bit b0rked, but I've just run a read-only pass of xfs_repair and it seems happy, even if the filesystem is rather damaged |
| [10:42:00] | awilkins: | Only seem to have about 6 or 7 lost+found |
| [10:43:00] | awilkins: | And a few music folders I have backups of. |
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| [10:44:00] | awilkins: | I'm just glad I went for nice cheap 300GB hard drives instead of 400GB ones which cost twice the money..... |
| [10:45:00] | awilkins: | I love linux, only OS I know where you can treat a hard drive like a file and just copy it...... |
| [10:45:00] | sandos: | I always buy the disks with the most GB/€ |
| [10:45:00] | awilkins: | "dd" 4tw |
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| [10:45:00] | Syruss: | dd rocks |
| [10:45:00] | sandos: | last time I looked that was around 250GB drives.. |
| [10:46:00] | awilkins: | 300 seems to be the tipping point here |
| [10:46:00] | awilkins: | 400 costs about 80% extra on top |
| [10:46:00] | Syruss: | anyway, my kernel has detected my dvb card, however the /dev/dvb/ device nodes don't seem to have been 'initialised', any idea why this is? |
| [10:46:00] | awilkins: | Syruss, you running udev? |
| [10:47:00] | sandos: | yeah, seems 300GB is also the cheapest here right now. |
| [10:47:00] | awilkins: | Syruss : You're probably missing some udev rules to create entries in devfs |
| [10:47:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | I just picked up a 300GB for $79 after rebate... |
| [10:47:00] | awilkins: | Gah. Bloody americans and your cheap prices |
| [10:47:00] | awilkins: | Costs about £79 here |
| [10:48:00] | dtm: | awilkins: i can't even read your currency character ;) |
| [10:48:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | Sorry... 79 USD... |
| [10:48:00] | awilkins: | 79 GBP |
| [10:48:00] | Syruss: | awilkins: no I don't think I am using udev, cheers :) |
| [10:48:00] | sandos: | cheapest 300 here is ~109$ |
| [10:48:00] | awilkins: | Syruss: What kernel version? |
| [10:49:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | 3 of the 4 200GB drives in my backend were bought on "Black Friday" (a big sale day in the US) for 29USD each after rebate! |
| [10:49:00] | awilkins: | Syruss: If you're not using udev, I think you'll have to create the device nodes manually in a script at boot time |
| [10:49:00] | Syruss: | 2.6.something or other |
| [10:49:00] | Syruss: | I've just installed it |
| [10:49:00] | Syruss: | rebooting... |
| [10:49:00] | awilkins: | 2.6.12 or above is best |
| [10:50:00] | awilkins: | Well, for my hardware, anyway |
| [10:50:00] | awilkins: | Which distro are you using? |
| [10:50:00] | Syruss: | debian |
| [10:50:00] | Syruss: | sarg |
| [10:50:00] | Syruss: | e |
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| [10:51:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | Syruss: I'm running a HD3000 on FC4 2.6.15 — I had to try several things to get it to automatically appear on re-boot. On issue I still have is that the /dvb/adapter0 and subdirs are not secured for my 'mythtv' user on boot... |
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| [10:53:00] | Syruss: | I just get this in my dmesg: |
| [10:53:00] | Syruss: | cx8800[0]: registered device video0 [v4l2] |
| [10:53:00] | Syruss: | cx8800[0]: registered device vbi0 |
| [10:53:00] | Syruss: | no /dev/dvb :/ |
| [10:54:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | Syruss: I had to comment all the HD3000 stuff out of modprobe.conf except "alias char-major-81–2 cx88-dvb" |
| [10:55:00] | Syruss: | bizzare, you on sarge also? |
| [10:55:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | IIRC, I could get /dev/dvb to appear by doing a 'modprobe cx88-dvb'... I'm on Fedora Core 4, so maybe nothing I'm saying is relevenant... but it sure sounds like the same issues I ran into on FC4... |
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| [10:58:00] | Syruss: | perhaps my v4l wasn't made with dvb |
| [11:00:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | humm... I'm pretty new to linux, so I don't even know how to check that... :-( |
| [11:02:00] | Syruss: | I think I'll just sort out a new kernel... |
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| [11:09:00] | Syruss: | dohh |
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| [11:14:00] | Syruss: | knew I should have used something like gentoo :/ |
| [11:17:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | cya guys... many thanks to dtm... ;-) |
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| [11:34:00] | drdaz: | I know the topic says dont be a dumbass... but here's a dumb question: is it possible to use chromakey OSD and get transparency? Failing that, get a full colour OSD using XvMC? Is this something that's likely to happen? |
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| [12:08:00] | awilkins: | chromakey is intrinsically non-transparent because it uses a coloured box as a target for the overlay |
| [12:09:00] | drdaz: | I feared as much |
| [12:09:00] | drdaz: | the grey OSD is a driver issue? |
| [12:09:00] | drdaz: | or... |
| [12:09:00] | awilkins: | It's an XvMC issue |
| [12:09:00] | drdaz: | ahh |
| [12:10:00] | awilkins: | You could compition the masked area into the alpha channel of the overlay, maybe. But I can't see there being much demand for that and my video programming is a big zero |
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| [12:11:00] | drdaz: | ok.. so its not an issue that's gonna be fixed any time soon I presume |
| [12:11:00] | drdaz: | shame really... it makes a number of OSD's such as Gray-OSD kinda useless |
| [12:12:00] | drdaz: | well |
| [12:12:00] | drdaz: | heh.. |
| [12:12:00] | drdaz: | call me a nitpicker, but I really like having my channel icons appear in colour |
| [12:12:00] | drdaz: | :) |
| [12:13:00] | coffee88: | I'd just like to have channel icons. :-( |
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| [12:14:00] | Syruss: | I'm still a lonnng way off channel icons |
| [12:14:00] | drdaz: | coffee88: I think mine just appeared when I got xmltv working properly... I can't really remember tho, it's a long time ago |
| [12:14:00] | Syruss: | fortunately I have all day to sort it all out, might just format and install gentoo |
| [12:15:00] | drdaz: | Syruss: what distro u using atm? |
| [12:15:00] | coffee88: | xmltv is all good, but for some reason the icons aren't there. Even dowloaded a set one day. Haven't really tried hard to sort it though |
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| [12:15:00] | Syruss: | debian, just trying a dist-upgrade to testing, see if that helps |
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| [12:16:00] | Syruss: | basically, the /dev/dvb device nodes wern't being created, but my card was detected by the kernel (and the cx8800 module was loaded) |
| [12:16:00] | Syruss: | (and a /dev/vbi1 or something was created) |
| [12:16:00] | Syruss: | I have a feeling I need the cx88-dvb module..which I have a feeling might be included in the testing kernel in debs |
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| [12:17:00] | drdaz: | hmm ok.. I'm actually looking at moving to digital from analog in the next couple weeks... been wondering how well supported DVB-C is and how big a pita it will be |
| [12:17:00] | drdaz: | also need to get a decoder card working |
| [12:18:00] | Syruss: | well, I imagine if you're using an up to date distro it'll be fine |
| [12:18:00] | Syruss: | at a guess |
| [12:18:00] | Syruss: | heh |
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| [12:18:00] | drdaz: | there seems to be very little documented experience of it.. and what there is seems to be either "it just worked" or "it doesnt work at all"... not very helpful stuff :-| |
| [12:18:00] | coffee88: | Syruss: for my cx88 based nova t I have to load cx88-dvb |
| [12:18:00] | Syruss: | yer, like I say, I don't have that module... |
| [12:18:00] | drdaz: | well I |
| [12:19:00] | Syruss: | I assume it's part of the kernel these days right? |
| [12:19:00] | coffee88: | which kernel are you running? |
| [12:19:00] | Syruss: | 2.6.8 |
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| [12:19:00] | coffee88: | And yes. |
| [12:19:00] | Syruss: | debian stock |
| [12:19:00] | drdaz: | well I'm running FC4 with the last .14 kernel released, so.. I hope it will 'just work' :) |
| [12:19:00] | Syruss: | cx880dvb isn't in there at a guess as I have all the modules for dvb & v4l installed |
| [12:19:00] | Syruss: | :p |
| [12:19:00] | coffee88: | Yeah, I think it got in there slightly after that.... Maybe around .11? But not 100% sure.... |
| [12:20:00] | Syruss: | well, like I say, if I have a great deal more problems I'm probably just going to go gentoo |
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| [12:20:00] | Syruss: | although that means finding a monitor for the mediapc :p |
| [12:20:00] | coffee88: | why? |
| [12:21:00] | drdaz: | u cant install using VNC perhaps? I havent played with gentoo |
| [12:21:00] | drdaz: | handy fedora install feature tho |
| [12:21:00] | coffee88: | You can install over ssh no problems |
| [12:21:00] | coffee88: | The install cd normally starts an ssh server automagically.... |
| [12:22:00] | Syruss: | coffee88: I'm not sure if the livecd will have drivers for the rt2800 wireless card in there |
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| [12:22:00] | coffee88: | If it's a slow box, then be prepared for a long wait until it's all up a running though... |
| [12:22:00] | Syruss: | yer |
| [12:23:00] | Syruss: | that's probably why I didn't use gentoo in the first place |
| [12:23:00] | Syruss: | I've used it a couple of times before, nice for getting stuff working as it's quite bleeding edge compared to other stuff |
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| [12:25:00] | Syruss: | compiling stuff on a 600mhz p3 wouldn't be too fun though I guess |
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| [12:26:00] | coffee88: | I've installed on 3 600mhx epias..... It does take a while! |
| [12:26:00] | coffee88: | Starting from stage 3 speeds things up a lot though.... |
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| [12:27:00] | Syruss: | yer |
| [12:30:00] | RaYmAn-Bx: | as nice way to speed things up is having one or more other gentoo boxes and then using distcc :) Doing that currently with installing on my via c-3 1.3ghz using my 1.7Ghz Pentium-M to help compile |
| [12:30:00] | RaYmAn-Bx: | as=a |
| [12:31:00] | coffee88: | I was doing that until my gcc versions got all out of sync.... Should have kept them all up to date, but compiling that can almost take days! |
| [12:31:00] | RaYmAn-Bx: | heh |
| [12:34:00] | Syruss: | anyone know how I can stop xorg wanting a keyboard? |
| [12:34:00] | drdaz: | give it a keyboard |
| [12:34:00] | drdaz: | (sorry) |
| [12:34:00] | Syruss: | I tried to comment it out in the server layout |
| [12:35:00] | coffee88: | I thought that worked? Worked for my mouse.... |
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| [12:40:00] | Syruss: | yer, it was just me not reading the error properly |
| [12:40:00] | Syruss: | it couldn't find the keyboard driver for some reason |
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| [12:45:00] | drdaz: | I'm curious... are there separate drivers for the different DVB-C cards under linux or is there just a general one? |
| [12:46:00] | drdaz: | I'm looking @ a TT Budget 1500C card and have found a german forum post with google suggesting that it needs a specific linux driver and that there isnt one.. |
| [12:46:00] | drdaz: | not sure whether to believe that or not :) |
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| [13:06:00] | Juski: | afternoon |
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| [13:10:00] | Juski: | yikes. some guy wanting people to post their xorg.conf & modprobe.conf files because his TV audio is too quiet after upgrading to FC4 :-/ what's the world coming to? |
| [13:12:00] | fryfrog: | erm, people hoping for answers by example? i see the end is nigh |
| [13:13:00] | Juski: | heh. pvr250 audio volume won't be affected by his xorg.conf I suspect ;) |
| [13:13:00] | fryfrog: | ah, thats true! |
| [13:13:00] | fryfrog: | but maybe he'd figure it out? :) |
| [13:14:00] | Juski: | I decided to help more than that, out of the goodness .. er.. smugness of my heart |
| [13:14:00] | fryfrog: | opinionness question! http://fryfrog.com/ |
| [13:14:00] | fryfrog: | ignoring the presense of errors :) |
| [13:15:00] | fryfrog: | what do you think of the left menu being broken into seperate... blcoks/chunks/whatever? |
| [13:16:00] | Juski: | prefer fryfrog.com |
| [13:17:00] | Juski: | oh wait no.. the 1st one |
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| [13:18:00] | fryfrog: | thanks |
| [13:18:00] | fryfrog: | i concur! |
| [13:18:00] | drdaz: | anybody here using a Terratec Cinergy 1200 DVB-C? |
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| [13:22:00] | ille: | no, but I would like to have one, our cable provider has recently started with DVB-C |
| [13:22:00] | ** Juski expects trouble. he just said "hive via chipsets a break you guys" in the knoppmyth forum ** | |
| [13:22:00] | Juski: | *give.. oops |
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| [13:22:00] | drdaz: | ok... I'm trying to figure out if there is a supported CI on it |
| [13:22:00] | drdaz: | it's... not obvious |
| [13:23:00] | Juski: | drdaz: if it's not obvious, then probably not |
| [13:23:00] | drdaz: | :-| |
| [13:23:00] | ille: | heard about people using a separate cardreader on usb |
| [13:23:00] | drdaz: | oh yeah? |
| [13:23:00] | test34: | anyone got the ati all-in-wonder 9700 pro (or similar model) working ? |
| [13:23:00] | Juski: | if it had a CI there'd be a massive space & a PCMCIA-like connector for a CAM |
| [13:23:00] | Juski: | test34: ATI AIW cards do not work (generally) in Linux |
| [13:24:00] | Juski: | ille: USB card readers rely on using softcams/emulators – you can't talk about them here |
| [13:24:00] | drdaz: | Juski: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Image:T . . . vb-c_pci.jpg |
| [13:25:00] | test34: | Juski, generally? so there is a possibility ? |
| [13:25:00] | Juski: | test34: more unlikely than likely I'm afraid |
| [13:25:00] | Juski: | put it this way, there's no linux driver for their 'theater' chip AFAIK |
| [13:25:00] | ille: | juski: yeah, that what is was about to say |
| [13:25:00] | test34: | Juski, ok then, thanks |
| [13:25:00] | Juski: | drdaz: drop an email off to terratec.. they should know ;-) |
| [13:25:00] | drdaz: | the linuxTV wiki is a little confusing in this regard.. it says: Support Desk says "NO Common Interface"! |
| [13:26:00] | drdaz: | ahh... good idea :) |
| [13:26:00] | Juski: | drdaz: it looks likely, what with that massive header on the board |
| [13:26:00] | drdaz: | its just that wiki suggests that we know something they dont |
| [13:26:00] | Juski: | won't harm to ask anyway |
| [13:26:00] | drdaz: | indeed |
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| [13:36:00] | Juski: | ooo... another new theme is under development... http://www.myth2ipod.com/frazel/Screenshots.html |
| [13:36:00] | drdaz: | :-o |
| [13:37:00] | Juski: | been playing with mine again too: http://www.juski.co.uk/images/newshot.png |
| [13:37:00] | drdaz: | heh thought you'd retired from theming? |
| [13:37:00] | drdaz: | :p |
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| [13:37:00] | Juski: | couldn't sleep last night, so I did some playing around |
| [13:38:00] | drdaz: | :) |
| [13:38:00] | Juski: | besides I've not much else to do to be honest |
| [13:40:00] | Juski: | what I need to do most is update the graphics & fix a few things. The positioning & layout are pretty much spot on, I reckon |
| [13:40:00] | Juski: | when it's all right, re-spinning it is just a simple matter of slotting new graphics in ;) |
| [13:41:00] | drdaz: | yeah... I've got no complaints apart from the bug I threw at you the other day |
| [13:41:00] | Juski: | rest assured, the mythmusic screen is going to get a thorough re-working |
| [13:41:00] | drdaz: | apart from that its a bit mono |
| [13:41:00] | ** drdaz runs and hides ** | |
| [13:41:00] | Juski: | heheh |
| [13:42:00] | Juski: | that's _the point_ ;-) |
| [13:42:00] | drdaz: | I know it |
| [13:42:00] | Juski: | looks a bit too dark on my TV though, and some of the text colours don't work too well. red on the black background for example |
| [13:43:00] | drdaz: | oO where are we seeing red on black? |
| [13:43:00] | Juski: | maybe it's oversaturated |
| [13:43:00] | Juski: | red is the colour used for 'in progress' recordings in the 'watch recordings' screen |
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| [13:43:00] | drdaz: | oh yes! |
| [13:44:00] | drdaz: | yeah that does blur a little now u mention it... but its not something I really found a problem |
| [13:44:00] | legtod2: | Good morning everyone |
| [13:44:00] | drdaz: | I'm quite happy to blame my TV for being crap |
| [13:45:00] | Juski: | morning legtod2 |
| [13:45:00] | Juski: | it's a limitation of PAL & NTSC more than anything else, drdaz |
| [13:45:00] | drdaz: | ok... |
| [13:45:00] | drdaz: | gotta go shopping.. bbl |
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| [13:46:00] | Juski: | heh. just been this morning.. it was mad in the supermarket |
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| [13:48:00] | UBL: | when mad, just imagine everyone else naked |
| [13:48:00] | UBL: | it'll turn that frown upside down |
| [13:48:00] | drdaz: | lmao! |
| [13:48:00] | Rule: | what if you're mad about ugly people ? |
| [13:49:00] | UBL: | turn your head and look at good looking people |
| [13:49:00] | UBL: | :) |
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| [13:49:00] | legtod2: | Would somebody be available to assist me with a sound problem on my pvr-250, FC4 ivtv-0.4.3 |
| [13:49:00] | Rule: | possibly |
| [13:50:00] | Juski: | legtod2: too quiet TV audio, eh? |
| [13:50:00] | Juski: | ;-) |
| [13:50:00] | legtod2: | yupper |
| [13:50:00] | Juski: | that might be one for the ivtv guys in all honesty |
| [13:50:00] | phar0e: | anyone know why my tuner card would showup to 'lspci' but not in dmesg output? |
| [13:50:00] | Syphn: | anyone here know what part of any theme defines the color of buttons and text boxes in the setup? would it be one of the xml files? |
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| [13:51:00] | Juski: | Syphn: ui.xml – and qtlook.txt |
| [13:51:00] | Rule: | heh my EIT problem was fixed within 2 hours of opening the ticket :) |
| [13:51:00] | Syphn: | Juski: thanks .. i'll take a look. |
| [13:51:00] | Juski: | it's a whole bag of bones in ui.xml – go careful |
| [13:51:00] | UBL: | phar0e, no modules/drivers loaded for it probably |
| [13:51:00] | Rule: | phar0e : only the driver shows up there |
| [13:51:00] | legtod2: | could any suggest a irc chat for the ivtv guys ? |
| [13:52:00] | Juski: | legtod2: try #ivtv-dev but don't expect a quick response |
| [13:52:00] | Rule: | search the maillist too |
| [13:52:00] | legtod2: | Many thanks |
| [13:52:00] | Juski: | legtod2: have you used previous versions of ivtv and were they okay? |
| [13:52:00] | legtod2: | I have two identical pvr's |
| [13:52:00] | Juski: | oh and I've just thought of something else |
| [13:52:00] | legtod2: | One is 18 the other 19 |
| [13:53:00] | phar0e: | ok – followup question, when I do load the modules I do get some dmesg output, however, the modules were compiled with a firmware file name and they are in the proper location, yet it doesn't attempt to load them... any ideas? |
| [13:53:00] | Rule: | the main question is if the recording is too quiet or the playback to be honest :) |
| [13:53:00] | Juski: | are you taking the audio from a cable/satellite box? |
| [13:53:00] | legtod2: | One is using 0.2.0 ivtv the other 0.4.3 ivtv |
| [13:53:00] | Juski: | phar0e: if this is ivtv you're talking about try the excellent ivtv website www.ivtvdriver.org for great instructions |
| [13:54:00] | legtod2: | I have cable to the pvr-250 and sound card (creative SB) |
| [13:54:00] | Juski: | legtod: is one okay and the other not? or are both too quiet? |
| [13:54:00] | Rule: | legtod2 : well the volume could simply be different on both :) |
| [13:55:00] | phar0e: | Juski: i'm talking about a HD-3000 that doesn't want to load its firmware for some reason and I've been trying for 14 hours to get it working |
| [13:55:00] | Juski: | legtod2: hang on... you're capturing audio from an external source? some set top boxes have volume controls – forgive me if this is insulting to you but could it be that? |
| [13:55:00] | Juski: | phar0e: ahh I see. do you have hotplug loaded? |
| [13:55:00] | legtod2: | I tried the mythtv setup of recording profile and bumped the volume, but no difference |
| [13:56:00] | Juski: | and legtod2: you don't have audio from your STB going to the PVR250 _and_ the soundcard do you? |
| [13:56:00] | phar0e: | Juski: running a recent version of udev , not any hotplug scripts, although hotplug is compiled into the kernel |
| [13:56:00] | Juski: | phar0e: just making sure you know that you need hotplug to do firmware loading ;-) |
| [13:57:00] | Rule: | hotplug ? obsolete here :) |
| [13:57:00] | legtod2: | The external souce is the co-ax cable in that connects into the PVR-250, which is working on my mythtv-0.18 machine |
| [13:57:00] | legtod2: | There is no external cable box per say. |
| [13:57:00] | Juski: | legtod2: is your 0.18 machine with ivtv 0.2.0 fine for loudness? |
| [13:57:00] | legtod2: | perfect |
| [13:58:00] | Juski: | cool – just so the facts are established ;) |
| [13:58:00] | Rule: | legtod2: what I still havent heard from you is that you played both recording on the same machine... just checking :) |
| [13:58:00] | legtod2: | I have good volume on 0.19 every where except live tv |
| [13:58:00] | Juski: | and the pvr250 in your 0.19 machine with ivtv 0.4.3 is using coax for input too? |
| [13:58:00] | legtod2: | yes |
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| [13:59:00] | Juski: | right. I don't think it's mythtv's fault then.. more than likely it'll be ivtv |
| [13:59:00] | legtod2: | rule: my records volume is low too |
| [13:59:00] | Rule: | ah ok wonderign how you know that :) |
| [14:00:00] | Rule: | records ? I assume you mean the volume level in the mpg |
| [14:00:00] | legtod2: | I created an image of my original 0.18 machine, then took HD and put it in 2nd machine to test upgrade |
| [14:00:00] | Juski: | legtod2: when you change the volume in the recording profile, does it have any effect at all? I know it won't go louder, but... |
| [14:00:00] | laga: | mornong |
| [14:00:00] | laga: | err, ning. |
| [14:00:00] | Juski: | mornong laga ;) |
| [14:01:00] | legtod2: | The volume in the recording profile was at 90% before it changed it to 98%, no diff |
| [14:01:00] | Juski: | legtod2: you could also try the cat test (i.e. cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg) and fiddle with ivtvctl to change the audio volume |
| [14:01:00] | Juski: | juuust to rule out mythtv one way or the other ;) |
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| [14:03:00] | legtod2: | I tried un-installing alsa, ivtv, and re-installing using yum |
| [14:03:00] | legtod2: | I tried unloading modules then reloading and using alsamixer to mute and unmute |
| [14:04:00] | Juski: | legtod2: I think there may be some mileage in trying the cat test and using ivtvctl to change the volume |
| [14:05:00] | Juski: | or even just run ivtvctl to change the volume while using livetv, just incase |
| [14:05:00] | laga: | note that it'll take one or two seconds before the settings kick in when watching livetv |
| [14:06:00] | Juski: | well noted, laga |
| [14:06:00] | legtod2: | I'll try, need to sign off and watch the kids, thanks. |
| [14:06:00] | Juski: | np |
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| [14:09:00] | Rule: | hmm does mythtv-setup also do icon scaling ? I suppose it must do... there is no progress indicator like in frontend though, so it looks hung :) |
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| [14:28:00] | Rule: | Am I misunderstanding something or is there a typo at http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . cpp?rev=9148 line 2051 ? The database upgrade should be performed if the db version is 1127, not 1128 ? |
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| [14:30:00] | phar0e: | or51132: Waiting for firmware upload(dvb-fe-or51132-qam.fw)... !! ! ! !! ! ! |
| [14:30:00] | phar0e: | *dances* |
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| [14:35:00] | Rule: | phar0e: yay |
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| [14:40:00] | phar0e: | still can't tune it though.. argh |
| [14:40:00] | human39: | hrm, with version .19 mythgame, when I hit escape on the keyboard, it escapes me to zsnes screen, instead of the whole program like it did in 18. |
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| [14:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | human39: There is a parameter you need to pass to it to make it not escape to the menu |
| [14:44:00] | human39: | in the myth setup? |
| [14:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | Yes, you configure mythgame to passs a certain parameter to zsnes |
| [14:45:00] | human39: | you mean, the game starter? |
| [14:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | I suppose you could call it that |
| [14:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | On the screen where yo uconfigured the zsnes emulator and gave it the path to the roms and such |
| [14:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | you have to add another parameter to send to zsnes when it is launched |
| [14:46:00] | human39: | k gotcha, thanks |
| [14:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | pass it a -m |
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| [14:48:00] | human39: | thanks GreyFoxx |
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| [14:49:00] | human39: | any clue why information is not pulling from the romdb table also? |
| [14:49:00] | human39: | just like years and such |
| [14:51:00] | Juski: | can I just canvass some opinion here? www.juski.co.uk/images/playback.png |
| [14:53:00] | Rule: | Juski: don't watch it ? |
| [14:53:00] | Rule: | ;) |
| [14:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | human39: I assume you've imported the romdb data then ? |
| [14:53:00] | Juski: | seen it already.. was quite good in a vaccuous kinda way |
| [14:54:00] | human39: | yes |
| [14:54:00] | Juski: | GreyFoxx: btw on that screenshot the weird chroma effect is visible (no Xv on the vnc connection) |
| [14:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | the preview is always done with x11 calls |
| [14:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | that's the same weird bug a few of us have seen |
| [14:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | seems to be scaling related, but noone has spent much time on it |
| [14:56:00] | Juski: | GreyFoxx: if it's of any use for you to know.. my minimyth FE doesn't do it with my theme but does on the others |
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| [14:59:00] | Rule: | How often does the EIT data for a channel get updated ? |
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| [15:00:00] | Juski: | Rule: er.. whenever, generally |
| [15:01:00] | Rule: | yeah ok, but how often does it revisit the same chanid |
| [15:01:00] | Juski: | depends how many channels you have |
| [15:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | and the chanid is almost irrelevant |
| [15:02:00] | Jasper^bed: | yoyo |
| [15:02:00] | Rule: | so it cycles through them ? |
| [15:02:00] | Jasper^bed: | :P |
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| [15:02:00] | Jasper: | good morning |
| [15:02:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [15:02:00] | Rule: | yeah I meant channel number thing... err whatsitcalled |
| [15:02:00] | Juski: | afternoon Jasper. up for another day of breaking mythtv? ;-) |
| [15:02:00] | Jasper: | yea |
| [15:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | Rule, it doesn't really matter what channel you are on, many channels info is broadcast on every transport |
| [15:02:00] | Jasper: | I just got a wireless network device |
| [15:02:00] | Jasper: | to install |
| [15:02:00] | human39: | GreyFoxx, yes, the romdb has been imported. I just assumed the crc are not lining up — unless theres something I'm missing |
| [15:02:00] | Jasper: | it's gonna be a day of fun and games :P |
| [15:03:00] | Rule: | GreyFoxx: true but not all it seems |
| [15:03:00] | Juski: | Rule: in the UK some muxes have more EIT data than others, for different channels |
| [15:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | depending on the EIT transport timeout value you have configured (default is 5 minutes) it will cycle to the next channel |
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| [15:04:00] | Rule: | yeah that's waht I thought |
| [15:04:00] | Rule: | and it's cyclic |
| [15:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [15:04:00] | Juski: | hmm I definitely have a need for speed today |
| [15:04:00] | Jasper: | ;p |
| [15:05:00] | Rule: | ah seems channel scanning of my transport with many channels is fixed now too |
| [15:05:00] | Rule: | or it has to do with the CAM I finally added but I doubt it |
| [15:05:00] | Rule: | shouldn't matter for scanning anyways |
| [15:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | A commit yesterday mentioned that it might improve the channel scan |
| [15:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | human39: crc's not being found would be my expectation, but I'll test it here in a minute |
| [15:06:00] | Rule: | I have a transport with 13 channels, and it used to complain about the value beign higher than some hardcoded one somewhere... |
| [15:07:00] | Jasper: | huhu this is gonna be fun.. |
| [15:07:00] | Jasper: | wireless and linux.. |
| [15:07:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [15:07:00] | Rule: | works great here jasper :) |
| [15:08:00] | Jasper: | ai, I have a problem I think :P |
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| [15:09:00] | Jasper: | I made my box go automatically to myth |
| [15:09:00] | Jasper: | and when x quits..it will autorestat |
| [15:09:00] | Jasper: | but now I can't enter the console anymore :P |
| [15:10:00] | Rule: | ctrl-alt-f1 ? |
| [15:10:00] | Jasper: | I'm gonna ssh it |
| [15:10:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [15:10:00] | Jasper: | I think |
| [15:10:00] | Rule: | even better |
| [15:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | human39: Scanning now |
| [15:10:00] | Rule: | avoid strange console/X switchign bugs :) |
| [15:11:00] | Jasper: | hmm it appears that my network device isn't working :P |
| [15:11:00] | Jasper: | prolly because I plugged in the wireless shit |
| [15:11:00] | Rule: | yeah ssh login is not great to check on connectivity issues ;) |
| [15:11:00] | Rule: | did you plug it in before boot ? |
| [15:12:00] | Rule: | if you don't ifrename the interfaces, the ordering might have changed and it could have taken eth0 :) unless its a wireless driver that uses things like wlan0 :) |
| [15:12:00] | Rule: | I have that with my orinoco card.. best to give it unique names |
| [15:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | human39: A scan of my PCE and NES directories seems to be working fine. Matched most everything |
| [15:14:00] | human39: | hrm |
| [15:14:00] | human39: | I must be doing something wrong |
| [15:15:00] | Rule: | GreyFoxx: after it adds EIT data fromt eh main transport which contains long-term stuff, does it update this data with the info found in the per-channel EIT data (seems to be only previous/next type data, but possibly better updated) |
| [15:15:00] | Jasper: | people |
| [15:15:00] | Jasper: | could inserting a wirless network card conflict with my original network settings? |
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| [15:17:00] | Rule: | Jasper : if hotplugging, normally _no_ |
| [15:17:00] | Jasper: | I coldplug.. |
| [15:17:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [15:17:00] | Rule: | yes |
| [15:17:00] | Rule: | PCI I gather then ? :) |
| [15:17:00] | Jasper: | yea |
| [15:17:00] | Rule: | if it also uses the ethX naming scheme it could take the name of the interface you already had |
| [15:18:00] | phar0e: | that's weird, I'm only able to scan about 5 out of 500 channels, all others signal timesout, any ideas? |
| [15:18:00] | Rule: | ethX are enumerated in detection order |
| [15:18:00] | Jasper: | but my network is suddenly not working anymore |
| [15:18:00] | Rule: | well if the ethX name changed for the original card, it will not have config information associated with it |
| [15:20:00] | tulbreak: | phar0e: try increasing the scan timeout (1000ms worked for me) |
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| [15:21:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
| [15:21:00] | Jasper: | I'm gonna unplug wireless |
| [15:22:00] | Jasper: | see what happends |
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| [15:23:00] | ** laga wonders how you can 'unplug wireless' ** | |
| [15:23:00] | Rule: | Jasper : unplug or remove card ? |
| [15:24:00] | Rule: | laga : I was wondering that... :) |
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| [15:25:00] | laga: | Juski: the arrows on the right are off. i don't like the small bar. |
| [15:26:00] | laga: | Juski: and the right bar is too large, it won't fit on the screen |
| [15:27:00] | Juski: | bleh. I know |
| [15:27:00] | laga: | heh |
| [15:27:00] | laga: | you asked for opinions ;) |
| [15:28:00] | Juski: | yep. god I need to work on my line |
| [15:28:00] | laga: | what line? |
| [15:28:00] | ** laga is not fully awake yet ** | |
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| [15:29:00] | Juski: | my racing line :-) |
| [15:30:00] | Syphn: | anyone know how i can get mythmusic to output to all 5.1 speakers when playing mp3's? |
| [15:31:00] | Syphn: | im sending the audio to a reciver ... |
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| [15:34:00] | Syphn: | no one? |
| [15:35:00] | Rule: | If the source is not 5.1... |
| [15:35:00] | Rule: | you can only let your receiver (I assume you mean ac3/dolby decoder) do some sort of "effect" on it to get 5.1 output |
| [15:36:00] | Syphn: | ya thats what i mean ... |
| [15:36:00] | Syphn: | i think its outputing stero now ... |
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| [15:37:00] | Rule: | if the source material is stereo, how could it output 5.1 ? |
| [15:37:00] | Syphn: | ya thats true ... |
| [15:37:00] | Rule: | On my dolby decoder I can set it for an effect to get 5.1 output |
| [15:38:00] | Rule: | like "rock" or "stadium" or whatever |
| [15:38:00] | Rule: | It's not that godo though :) |
| [15:38:00] | Rule: | s/gogo/good |
| [15:38:00] | Syphn: | ya i've seen a little about surround sound mp3 ... |
| [15:39:00] | Syphn: | when i play songs with alot of base you can tell its not using the sub ... |
| [15:39:00] | Rule: | yep |
| [15:39:00] | Rule: | the older analog dolby prologic decoder atleast sortof splits off the base :) |
| [15:40:00] | Syphn: | ya kinda sad acutally ... |
| [15:40:00] | Syphn: | awe well ... |
| [15:40:00] | Rule: | point is, it's something to do at the decoder, not the source imho |
| [15:41:00] | Rule: | in theory there could be some software solution that does something similar, but I don't know about it |
| [15:41:00] | Syphn: | are you sending AC3 to your surround sound from the mythmusic setup? |
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| [15:43:00] | Rule: | I'm not at the moment, no... I have a friend that does though |
| [15:43:00] | Syphn: | and does it do anything for playing mp3's in mythmusic? |
| [15:44:00] | Rule: | I don't remember but I thought his little decoder at least made the bass speaker work |
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| [15:44:00] | Rule: | he has one of those little Creative boxes that do ac3 |
| [15:45:00] | Syphn: | awe ... |
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| [15:45:00] | Syphn: | i'll try it out here see that hapends |
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| [15:45:00] | Rule: | So I'm not an expert :) |
| [15:46:00] | Juski: | pah. Creative |
| [15:46:00] | Syphn: | anyone here using the MythCenter Theme? |
| [15:47:00] | Rule: | yep me |
| [15:47:00] | Syphn: | in your setup / exit screen are they using GANT buttons? |
| [15:48:00] | Rule: | I don't think so... let me check |
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| [15:54:00] | Rule: | Syphn: which buttons do you mean |
| [15:55:00] | Syphn: | Exit > Yes / No from the main menu ... |
| [15:55:00] | Syphn: | on mine is Grey/Orange (like GANT) ... |
| [15:55:00] | Rule: | they look like the standard ones that I have always seen, even with blue |
| [15:55:00] | Syphn: | and in seup any textbox/control is grey like GANT ... |
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| [15:55:00] | Syphn: | i just checked the qtlook.txt and it has GANT in it |
| [15:56:00] | Rule: | ah maybe mine have blue in it |
| [15:56:00] | Rule: | from ages ago :) |
| [15:56:00] | Syphn: | would you mine e-mailing my your /usr/share/mythtv/themes/MythCenter/qtlook.txt file? |
| [15:56:00] | Rule: | I have no such dir |
| [15:57:00] | Syphn: | well might vary .. where ever your themes are located |
| [15:57:00] | Rule: | ah use local here |
| [15:57:00] | Rule: | where does your say GANT ? |
| [15:58:00] | Syphn: | it doesn't say gant .. but it loooks like it ... open qtlook.txt under MythCenter and it used colors like #777777 (orange) and alot of greys ... |
| [15:59:00] | Rule: | nope :) |
| [15:59:00] | jnunez: | I have a strange issue. I can record and view shows but if I try to view LiveTV it locks ups after 2 secs. The log states "Remote encoder not responding" The last change I made over a week ago was to the recording profiles |
| [15:59:00] | Syphn: | Rule? Nope ... does your \MythCenter\qtlook.txt say: str ActiveButton=#777777 |
| [16:00:00] | Rule: | ActiveButton=#38689c |
| [16:00:00] | Juski: | erm... themes should look the same on any system, colour-wise |
| [16:01:00] | Rule: | Juski: huh ? |
| [16:01:00] | Juski: | unless someone has been naughty & editing the files for their own packages |
| [16:01:00] | Rule: | clearly Gant is grey and blue is blue for example ;P |
| [16:01:00] | Syphn: | ya see mines 777777 which is wrong ... and its wrong on the themes homepage too ... |
| [16:01:00] | Juski: | 77777 – a bit grey eh |
| [16:01:00] | Rule: | mine are from mythtv and myththemes svn ... make install |
| [16:02:00] | Syphn: | well i just check the themse homepage and its wrong there too ... |
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| [16:02:00] | Juski: | maybe it's intended ;) |
| [16:02:00] | Syphn: | Rule, our you mind e-mailing me qtlook.txt/theme.xm/lui.xml from MythCenter ? |
| [16:02:00] | Syphn: | might be but i was hoping fro Blue :-) |
| [16:03:00] | DartmanX1: | question: what is the "best" way to admin my myth box? Is there a tutorial for something along the lines of VNC? |
| [16:03:00] | Rule: | Syphn : yeah it's rather complicated to get the fiels off there and mail :) |
| [16:04:00] | Juski: | pastebin ;-) |
| [16:04:00] | Rule: | I hate all that fiddling with multi-page files and copy/paste... |
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| [16:04:00] | Syphn: | Rule? complicated? you should be able to attach those three files and thats it |
| [16:05:00] | Rule: | it's not this machine |
| [16:06:00] | Syphn: | awe i just assumed vnc / firefox + e-mail ... |
| [16:06:00] | Syphn: | no worries |
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| [16:06:00] | Syphn: | mabey i'll e-mail the theme's creator |
| [16:06:00] | Rule: | just check them on svn |
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| [16:07:00] | Syphn: | do i have t login to the svn server? or can i grab them off the web? |
| [16:07:00] | Rule: | http://cvs.mythtv.org |
| [16:07:00] | FunkyELF: | hey guys, I'm a little confused with the new version of MythTV. When i watch live tv files get put in my /mnt/store folder with the rest of my recordings but I don't see where in myth to play them back or to delete them |
| [16:07:00] | Rule: | or svn.mythtv.org now too ;) |
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| [16:08:00] | Syphn: | ya im seeing that ... |
| [16:09:00] | Syphn: | Rule: if it do svn co http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/trunk/myththemes will it checkout to the local firectory im in? |
| [16:09:00] | Rule: | yes... |
| [16:09:00] | Rule: | but just browse |
| [16:09:00] | Rule: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . txt?rev=9150 |
| [16:09:00] | Syphn: | o sweet |
| [16:10:00] | Syphn: | ya thats diccerent .. |
| [16:10:00] | Syphn: | i need to grab that one i think .. |
| [16:10:00] | Juski: | FunkyELF: there's a new recordings group called livetv |
| [16:10:00] | Rule: | or better http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . p;format=raw |
| [16:11:00] | Rule: | so you can just copy/paste or whatever |
| [16:11:00] | Syphn: | sweet ... sec let me try that ... |
| [16:11:00] | laga: | FunkyELF: they will be auto-expired |
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| [16:13:00] | Manuka: | does anyone know if the knoppmyth distro uses any funky IDE drivers? |
| [16:13:00] | Rule: | define " funky " |
| [16:13:00] | Manuka: | it kernel panics during install trying to send blocks bigger than expected |
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| [16:14:00] | Manuka: | but debian went on it just fine |
| [16:14:00] | Rule: | check the knoppmyth forums |
| [16:14:00] | Rule: | saw some posts on there |
| [16:14:00] | Rule: | SATA ? |
| [16:15:00] | Manuka: | nah, plain ol' IDE |
| [16:15:00] | ille: | have you run a verify on the cd? |
| [16:15:00] | Manuka: | can't say taht I have. |
| [16:15:00] | Rule: | I was assuming errors on write |
| [16:16:00] | Syphn: | Rule: when i try cp MythCenter MythCenter-Original i get: ommited MythCenter |
| [16:16:00] | Syphn: | any ideas? |
| [16:16:00] | Rule: | cp -r |
| [16:16:00] | Manuka: | rule: I'm not sure whether it's reading the CD or writing the disk that's causing it to go bewm |
| [16:16:00] | Rule: | oh ok, might be media errors thne |
| [16:16:00] | Syphn: | thanks |
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| [16:17:00] | Hoxzer: | How do I check mythtv versio? |
| [16:17:00] | Manuka: | hadn't even occured to me to look at that – it was a fresh-burned CD |
| [16:17:00] | Manuka: | is there a packaged debian version? |
| [16:17:00] | Rule: | yeah I'm pretty sure there is... don't know which version though |
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| [16:18:00] | Rule: | personally I run debian and compile mythtv |
| [16:18:00] | Syphn: | Rule: will svn co http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/trunk/myththemes/MythCenter checkout just that theme? |
| [16:18:00] | Manuka: | i saw some stuff in the howto, but the dependencies are all hozed |
| [16:18:00] | Rule: | I don't think that works, Syphn ... not sure though |
| [16:18:00] | Syphn: | hmmm ... |
| [16:18:00] | Rule: | you can try :) |
| [16:18:00] | FunkyELF: | laga, I see the new recording profile called live tv but I don't see where it is set to auto-expire? |
| [16:18:00] | Syphn: | don't want to pooch something ... |
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| [16:18:00] | Rule: | just check em all out and install them :) |
| [16:18:00] | Manuka: | rule: any funky deb quirks i need to know about? |
| [16:19:00] | drdaz: | I've noticed that there is talk of support for the Twinhan Cab-CI in future releases... That confuses me some, does this mean that it won't work now? And isnt hardware support something that should take place at a driver level? |
| [16:19:00] | FunkyELF: | Juski, laga does it do it automatically as it needs more space for sheduled recordings? |
| [16:19:00] | Rule: | Manuka : possibly... as I said I compile from source |
| [16:19:00] | Manuka: | rule: that's what I was inquiring about |
| [16:19:00] | Syphn: | Rule ... what about : svn co http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/trunk/myththemes if i run that from /usr/share/mythtv/theme .. it will get lal the themes? |
| [16:19:00] | Manuka: | you run into any deb-specific weirdness doing that? |
| [16:19:00] | Rule: | Syphn : extract somewhere else and run make install |
| [16:20:00] | Syphn: | hmmm |
| [16:20:00] | Rule: | Manuka : well there are lots of dependencies... set up mysql and loads of libs etc etc |
| [16:20:00] | Rule: | just install all that is needed |
| [16:20:00] | Manuka: | OK |
| [16:21:00] | Rule: | then you also need to manually create your config so mythtv starts automagically on boot ;) |
| [16:21:00] | Manuka: | heh |
| [16:21:00] | Manuka: | I'm primarily using this thing as a playback machine |
| [16:21:00] | Rule: | drivers etc are also manually install most of the time... ivtv for example |
| [16:21:00] | Rule: | the nice thing of a thing like knoppmyth is that it contains all that |
| [16:22:00] | Manuka: | yeah, that's why I was hoping to use it |
| [16:22:00] | Manuka: | I'll go run a testcd boot on it and see what happens |
| [16:22:00] | Syphn: | damit ... i can't write to /usr/share ... |
| [16:22:00] | Rule: | you can probably work around it if its not the CD... |
| [16:22:00] | Manuka: | tanks. |
| [16:22:00] | Syphn: | need to enable su in kwrite ... |
| [16:22:00] | Manuka: | rule: well, at first I was afraid it was a linux problem with my hardware |
| [16:22:00] | Manuka: | loading debian proved otherwise |
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| [16:23:00] | Rule: | yeah it could still be a problem with the knoppmyth kernel and your hardware |
| [16:23:00] | Rule: | friends of mine have seen some SATA controller problems |
| [16:23:00] | Rule: | etc |
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| [16:24:00] | eidolon: | mornin folks. |
| [16:25:00] | Rule: | evening :) |
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| [16:25:00] | eidolon: | heh |
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| [16:26:00] | FunkyELF: | anyone here with a pvr 500 use the composite input? |
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| [16:30:00] | Syphn: | Rule: Rebooting with new UI.xml and qtlook.txt |
| [16:31:00] | FunkyELF: | I created a new capture card and now I can't delete it |
| [16:32:00] | FunkyELF: | the only option is to delete all....does that make sense?....how can I delete the one I just made? |
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| [16:35:00] | Syphn: | Rule ... worked great ... |
| [16:35:00] | Syphn: | i wonder why his website and atrpms is packaging the old one ... |
| [16:36:00] | squish102: | any1 with knoppmyth that can tell me the name of the app that is installed to track dvd's from webpage? |
| [16:36:00] | Syphn: | i should really start getting the stable branch and building from that ! |
| [16:36:00] | Juski: | mythburn.. and it has little to do with knoppmyth |
| [16:36:00] | squish102: | nope not mythburn |
| [16:36:00] | Syphn: | a few other themes i have have gant buttons ... i'll fix them ... or lear to build the themes from svn |
| [16:36:00] | squish102: | it is something where u can add details about dvd's u own |
| [16:37:00] | Juski: | ???? |
| [16:37:00] | squish102: | and links to imdb etc |
| [16:37:00] | Juski: | try asking in #knoppmyth |
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| [16:37:00] | squish102: | i cannot find a list of default apps that knoppmyth installs |
| [16:37:00] | squish102: | ahh thanks |
| [16:38:00] | ille: | aviManager |
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| [16:38:00] | FunkyELF: | please can someone tell me if it is possilbe to delete a capture card that I set up? The only option I see is to delete them all |
| [16:39:00] | FunkyELF: | I need to capture something from someone's camcorder through the composite input on my pvr 500. Until now all I have used were the TV tuners |
| [16:39:00] | squish102: | thanks ille |
| [16:39:00] | ille: | ivtvctl -p sourceid the cat /dev/video > file |
| [16:40:00] | squish102: | not much going on in knoppmyth |
| [16:40:00] | Juski: | same old same old then |
| [16:40:00] | Juski: | so erm.. where did you hear about the imdb dvd thing? |
| [16:40:00] | FunkyELF: | ille, do you know what the sourceid would be? |
| [16:41:00] | ille: | i use 5 on my pvr350 |
| [16:41:00] | ille: | ivtvctl -a to list all options |
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| [16:42:00] | Juski: | squish102: where did you hear about the 'app that is installed to track dvds' ? |
| [16:42:00] | Juski: | sounds like mythvideo to me btw |
| [16:43:00] | Juski: | dump a bunch of video files in a directory, scan it with the video manager, and search the imdb fro within mythtv to get the movie details & poster etc |
| [16:43:00] | squish102: | Juski, i had knoppmyth installed once, and remember seeing it |
| [16:43:00] | FunkyELF: | ille, do I need to set the sound input as well or will that happen automatically when I switch it to the composite input? |
| [16:43:00] | squish102: | and atm i use myDVDs |
| [16:43:00] | Juski: | I had knoppmyth installed once. That was enough |
| [16:44:00] | squish102: | it has my dvd collection on a webpage |
| [16:44:00] | Syphn: | anyone here using mythstream |
| [16:44:00] | Syphn: | ? |
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| [16:44:00] | Juski: | squish102: I think you're after mythvideo |
| [16:44:00] | ille: | Funky: no if the sound is connected to the line in input |
| [16:44:00] | squish102: | Juski, but all my dvd's are not on my myth box (yet) |
| [16:44:00] | Juski: | squish102: so? |
| [16:45:00] | Juski: | you can't insert info for videos you don't have files for |
| [16:45:00] | squish102: | and this just lists everything i have so i can browse to it, and link ti imdb to get ratineds etc |
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| [16:46:00] | Juski: | well good luck |
| [16:46:00] | squish102: | usefull when someone comes over and we want to watch a dvd and i just point them to my webpage and say choose one |
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| [16:46:00] | Juski: | mythweb lets you see all your videos like that, if the files are in the DB |
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| [16:47:00] | squish102: | ok, will look at that too, thanks |
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| [16:49:00] | Juski: | squish102: this is what it looks like: www.juski.co.uk/images/mythvideoweb.png |
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| [16:52:00] | narf: | anyone else have problems video stuttering with a pcHDTV HD-3000? |
| [16:53:00] | Juski: | narf: you using nvidia? latest drivers? |
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| [16:53:00] | narf: | ati card actually |
| [16:53:00] | Juski: | what CPU? |
| [16:54:00] | narf: | amd athlon64 3000 (939) |
| [16:54:00] | Juski: | you getting prebufferring pauses? |
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| [16:54:00] | narf: | it stays at about 80% cpu while playing |
| [16:54:00] | narf: | yes |
| [16:55:00] | Juski: | your cpu might be a tad underpowered & your GPU doesn't help with mpeg decoding (!) |
| [16:55:00] | Juski: | though it's supposedly possible to play 1080i on a 2.4ghz intel with XvMC |
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| [16:56:00] | narf: | so a new video card would be the easiest option? |
| [16:57:00] | Juski: | probably – at least a nvidia 5200 – then you can at least use XvMC |
| [16:57:00] | Juski: | sounds outrageous to say a 3000 athlon 64 is underpowered doesn't it though? |
| [16:57:00] | narf: | ya I was thinking that lol |
| [16:58:00] | scopeuk: | hmm |
| [16:58:00] | narf: | i'm running knoppmyth atm so it's 32-bit, would 64-bit have a large effect |
| [16:59:00] | ** scopeuk is ploting now if i was to take one of my 433s and stick in a 5200 with nvidia drivers could that work ** | |
| [16:59:00] | scopeuk: | narf probably not |
| [16:59:00] | scopeuk: | not unless yu have stupid amounts of ram avaliable and in use |
| [16:59:00] | narf: | nope |
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| [17:01:00] | narf: | is XvMC solely nvidia, or could a newer ATI card support this? |
| [17:01:00] | laga: | XvMC is via unichrome and nvidia. |
| [17:02:00] | eidolon: | yay. i won my bid on the pc. |
| [17:02:00] | ** eidolon will shortly have a myth-dev-box i can run svn on. ** | |
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| [17:05:00] | human39: | bah, these plug-in are being installed in the wrong directory, its like its forgetting the /usr/local |
| [17:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | [11:14am]<human39> I must be doing someth |
| [17:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | [11:14am]<human39> I must be doing someth |
| [17:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | [11:14am]<human39> I must be doing someth |
| [17:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | [11:14am]<human39> I must be doing someth |
| [17:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | [11:14am]<human39> I must be doing someth |
| [17:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | [11:14am]<human39> I must be doing someth |
| [17:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | [11:14am]<human39> I must be doing someth |
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| [17:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | ;;llbbhhbhnhr4 |
| [17:06:00] | human39: | hrm? |
| [17:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | my kid, cut n pasting :) |
| [17:07:00] | scopeuk: | lol |
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| [17:07:00] | scopeuk: | arnt they great |
| [17:07:00] | jnunez: | How can I underscan the desktop? I have mythtv underscanned but it doesn't apply to xine and xmame |
| [17:07:00] | scopeuk: | wait till he/she fids outhow to use your bookmarks ;-) |
| [17:07:00] | human39: | lol |
| [17:08:00] | scopeuk: | http://jituonline.freeservers.com/images/06.jpg |
| [17:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | scopeuk: I never bookmark anything :) |
| [17:08:00] | scopeuk: | lol |
| [17:08:00] | scopeuk: | heh what other uses does google have |
| [17:09:00] | nasa: | Anyone know how game files are passed to the actually emulator in mythgame? I need to modify a script to take it in.... |
| [17:09:00] | laga: | jnunez: it maybe possible to use DISPLAYSIZE in your X config, but i'm not sure if that'd work. please keep us posted! |
| [17:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | nasa: What do you mean? the filename+path is passed to the emulator that you have configured for that particular game type |
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| [17:10:00] | jnunez: | I thought Display Size was for setting widescreen. I will look into it. Thanks laga |
| [17:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | so if you configured the command as "/part/to/emulator" it would send "/path/to/emulator /path/to/file.rom" |
| [17:10:00] | jaytee: | anyone here using a pundit-r? |
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| [17:11:00] | nasa: | GreyFoxx: script will have to get the /path/to/file.rom part |
| [17:11:00] | jaytee: | hmm... guess not |
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| [17:13:00] | Juski: | bollards! |
| [17:13:00] | nasa: | GreyFoxx: mythgame then executes something like: "/usr/local/games/mame /roms/myrom.rom" — correct? |
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| [17:13:00] | Juski: | that damn game... had hundreds of attempts to beat that level & still no joy. maybe I'll do better tonight after a few drinks |
| [17:13:00] | jnunez: | Juski: which game? |
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| [17:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | nasa: ThAt is exactly what I just said :) |
| [17:14:00] | Juski: | jnunez: NFS:underground |
| [17:14:00] | ** nasa is REALLY slow ** | |
| [17:14:00] | jnunez: | oh. |
| [17:15:00] | Juski: | now I'm bored |
| [17:15:00] | scopeuk: | Juski 1 or 2 ? |
| [17:15:00] | jnunez: | I'm going all retro right now. Not a new game out there that is making me go nuts for... I think I am getting old because I enjoyed the Halo books more than the games |
| [17:15:00] | Juski: | scopeuk: dunno |
| [17:16:00] | Juski: | Halo == far too easy, far too linear |
| [17:16:00] | scopeuk: | halo was entertainign as a team effort |
| [17:17:00] | scopeuk: | maby that was jsut the company |
| [17:17:00] | jnunez: | Im still on my XBox and PS2. There isn't a game for the 360 that has me craving it |
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| [17:17:00] | jnunez: | You guys should read the book! |
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| [17:18:00] | scopeuk: | books are far to liner and single path ;-) |
| [17:19:00] | jnunez: | When compared to Bungie's Marathon series the Halo series is linear and a lot less storytelling and more FPS. But I think that is the tend now. My son skips all the cut scenes |
| [17:21:00] | scopeuk: | i watehed all the cut scenes in halo and halo 2 first time round |
| [17:22:00] | scopeuk: | but after that its jsut about completing the game |
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| [17:31:00] | purplefrog: | Something is wrong with my schedule. Cartoon Network has been misrecording stuff, and when I went into the Program guide I find I have two rows for TOON 52. One is full of Unknown and the other does not match up with the cartoonnetwork.com web site. |
| [17:32:00] | purplefrog: | Actually, it appears to be 3 hours off. |
| [17:32:00] | purplefrog: | And it's called TOONP wtf? |
| [17:32:00] | scopeuk: | u set you time diference right when yousetup? |
| [17:33:00] | purplefrog: | I set this thing up over a year ago. |
| [17:33:00] | scopeuk: | doesent answer my question |
| [17:33:00] | scopeuk: | is the time ofset correct |
| [17:33:00] | purplefrog: | I don't know where the time offset is set? |
| [17:33:00] | scopeuk: | or isthis JUST hapenign to cartoon network? |
| [17:33:00] | purplefrog: | So far it appears to only be cartoon network. |
| [17:33:00] | scopeuk: | ok |
| [17:33:00] | scopeuk: | unlikely to bethat then |
| [17:34:00] | scopeuk: | or all your channels whould beout by the diferenct to gmt |
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| [17:34:00] | scopeuk: | how do you gfet your program data? |
| [17:34:00] | purplefrog: | the system clock says it is 12:33 eastern, which is correct. |
| [17:34:00] | purplefrog: | I use mythfilldatabase. |
| [17:34:00] | scopeuk: | yes bt do you use xmltv or the other ameican system which name escapes me atm |
| [17:35:00] | narf: | (zap2it) |
| [17:35:00] | scopeuk: | thats the one |
| [17:35:00] | purplefrog: | I am pretty sure I use zap2it. |
| [17:35:00] | scopeuk: | ok |
| [17:35:00] | purplefrog: | I get "subscription renewal" emails every 3 months. |
| [17:35:00] | scopeuk: | then your usign zap 2 it |
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| [17:39:00] | Jasper^bed: | :p |
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| [17:39:00] | scopeuk: | jasper can you take this you know alot more abotu myth than me |
| [17:39:00] | purplefrog: | I just checked comedy central against its web site, that channel information is correct. I think something is wrong with zap2it's channel lineup. |
| [17:40:00] | scopeuk: | possibly |
| [17:40:00] | purplefrog: | Plus, I can't reach www.zap2it.com |
| [17:40:00] | scopeuk: | when you say incorect is it off set or completly wrogn programs? |
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| [17:41:00] | purplefrog: | I think basically TOONP means "Cartoon Network Pacific", which would explain why all the shows are 3 hours off. |
| [17:41:00] | scopeuk: | quite possibly |
| [17:41:00] | purplefrog: | Because I'm on the atlantic side of the USA, not the pacific. |
| [17:41:00] | scopeuk: | maby you have to reconfigure zpa2 it |
| [17:41:00] | scopeuk: | im in the uk so ive never used it |
| [17:42:00] | human39: | anybody else know of a bug with the plugin's that ignores the "--prefix" when your installing? |
| [17:43:00] | scopeuk: | purplefrog i jsut got to zap2its website |
| [17:44:00] | purplefrog: | I got through to labs.zap2it.com, and it's most definitely busted. |
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| [17:46:00] | scopeuk: | id imagine if zap2it broke weed be flooded with people complaining about it though |
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| [17:53:00] | purplefrog: | OK, by "busted" I mean that they got channel 52 on "Charter Communications Gwinnett – Duluth (for 30518)" wrong. TOONP instead of TOON. |
| [17:54:00] | purplefrog: | So every MythTV user with Charter cable in Duluth is suffering right now. |
| [17:54:00] | purplefrog: | at least, the ones who record cartoon network. |
| [17:54:00] | scopeuk: | we probably jsut narowed it down to you |
| [17:54:00] | purplefrog: | pretty much. |
| [17:57:00] | scopeuk: | is a pain though |
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| [18:00:00] | bretula: | OK, so I can play sound via "aplay -D default foo.wav" and "aplay -D plug:spdif foo.wav", and hear each via analog out or spdif out depending on what my receiver's set to. But I get *zero* sound out out mythtv. What should the default sound device be set to? I am tearing my hair out here.... |
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| [18:06:00] | monkeyBox: | Is it possible to use mythdvd's internal DVD player using MythVideo? |
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| [18:11:00] | Pitchin_uk: | hi guys – the mc.sql is that the file that sets the permissions on the database |
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| [18:13:00] | dasOp: | yeah |
| [18:14:00] | Pitchin_uk: | if i was to substitute mythtv with myusername would that work?? |
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| [18:15:00] | Todd: | I know this isn't 100% mythtv-related, but can someone help me fix a busted smart install? Using yum to remove/reinstall it isn't doing the trick.. I somehow lost all my channels and they won't come back! |
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| [18:15:00] | scopeuk: | i might have antoehr go at gettign myth going |
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| [18:23:00] | ** scopeuk = gluten for punishment ** | |
| [18:24:00] | scopeuk: | any one knwo a good way to cheack if a disk has duff sectors ect on it |
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| [18:24:00] | purplefrog: | Is there a "badblocks" tool for linux? |
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| [18:25:00] | purplefrog: | Yes, it's part of my e2fsprogs ebuild. |
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| [18:28:00] | human39: | bah, so nobody can give any insight of this issue with the plugin's not installing to the default "/usr/local", and also anything I put in --prefix=" |
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| [18:45:00] | Todd: | I'm getting 'libglide3.so.3 is needed by package xmame' when installing xmame via yum |
| [18:45:00] | Todd: | anyone else having this issue? |
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| [18:49:00] | Pitchin_uk: | Hi can someone walk me through the seup for 0.19 as im getting stuck on the channel scan |
| [18:49:00] | Pitchin_uk: | seup = setup :) |
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| [18:52:00] | Pitchin_uk: | its just the mythtv-setup bit not the full lot |
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| [18:53:00] | mike_d_: | is anyone else having issues with ffwd / rewind after upgrading to 0.19? |
| [18:54:00] | Pitchin_uk: | im just trying to upgrade |
| [18:55:00] | nasa: | anyone know how to compile mythrecipe? |
| [18:55:00] | mike_d_: | specifically, the picture freezes while i'm ffwding or rewinding. with 0.18 i was able to see the program while ffwd/rew-ing |
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| [18:57:00] | nasa: | mike_d: haven't tried it yet — still getting all my components working.... |
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| [18:58:00] | mike_d_: | also, after rewinding, it takes 1–2 minutes after pressing 'play' for the show to actually start playing again |
| [19:00:00] | EricL: | I svn update about every 2 days or so, so I am using the latest version. For the past week or so, its been segfaulting on a double free when I start watching TV (every other time or so). |
| [19:00:00] | EricL: | Is there a way I can give you guys debug information to help you correct this? |
| [19:01:00] | EricL: | ie Can you point me to a HOWTO or something along those lines to show me how to give you guys the dump and where to send it. |
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| [19:02:00] | nasa: | EricL: go http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ and create a ticket (as best I can tell that's thier bug tracking mechanism) |
| [19:03:00] | xris: | nasa: that's how it works.... |
| [19:04:00] | xris: | man, the new mpeg2cut feature is a lifesaver |
| [19:05:00] | briand: | xris: mpeg2cut ? |
| [19:05:00] | EricL: | Ok, I just want to ensure that I provide enough debug information. |
| [19:05:00] | xris: | briand: lossless mpeg2 transcoding to remove commercials |
| [19:06:00] | briand: | xris: ah.. yes. *very* nice feature... and the main, compelling reason I upgraded to 0.19 asap |
| [19:06:00] | briand: | ..and it's plenty fast, too. |
| [19:06:00] | xris: | very helpful for olympics recordings... 10G -> 1G since I cut out what I don't want to watch |
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| [19:07:00] | briand: | xris: yep. I've been hanging onto "Paul McCartney in Red Square", "Moody Blues Live", "Eagles Farewell I Tour", etc... waiting to just trim the unneeded material (commercials and/or pledge breaks) |
| [19:08:00] | xris: | ah. I archive stuff I want to keep to xvid |
| [19:09:00] | briand: | y'know, when i built up my pundit, I installed a DVD-R/RW with exactly that idea in mind... and I've yet to even set up the DVD recording stuff, yet. Eventually, tho... |
| [19:09:00] | xris: | heh. I left the optical drive in my pundit unplugged. I never use it. |
| [19:09:00] | briand: | not even for OS install? |
| [19:10:00] | xris: | use, not used |
| [19:11:00] | briand: | ah. 'k. gotcha... well, I guess i'm in the same boat... except, with a pvr-350 -and- a pvr-500 squeezed in there... well, let's just say the case is properly reassembled, and it'd be a bear to have to open it for any reason |
| [19:11:00] | briand: | ...so,i guess i'll leave it plugged in. ;) |
| [19:12:00] | xris: | heh |
| [19:12:00] | xris: | I didn't have much trouble fitting my pvr-150 or air2pc |
| [19:12:00] | briand: | nor I, with just the pvr-350. |
| [19:12:00] | briand: | the pvr-500 is a bit bigger, and just -barely- the minimum height. |
| [19:13:00] | briand: | card is longer, though, so I had to remove the fan shroud from the cpu fan in order for the card to fit. |
| [19:14:00] | briand: | and, since the card is so tall, i had to bend the bottom of the case out a bit to allow me to squeeze the card past the lip when re-installing the PCI daughterboard with the two pvr's on it. |
| [19:14:00] | scopeuk: | lol that soudns like a whole lot of effort |
| [19:14:00] | briand: | i just took it slow and steady, didn't force anything (well, except for some sheet metal 'coaxing') |
| [19:14:00] | scopeuk: | i removed a blanking plate inserted the card and put the retaining clip back on |
| [19:14:00] | briand: | scopeuk: sure, yeah... but now i've got 3 tuners available in one small-footprint box. :) |
| [19:15:00] | scopeuk: | nice |
| [19:15:00] | scopeuk: | i have 1 tuner i na natx box |
| [19:16:00] | briand: | i only wish i had thought to pick up another 512MB memory stick at the time... i've got 512MB in there, and one open slot... but don't know if 1G RAM would give me enough extra benefit to warrant tearing that whole setup apart to install it |
| [19:18:00] | nasa: | anyone know how to compile mythrecipe? |
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| [19:19:00] | scopeuk: | slowly? |
| [19:19:00] | TUplink: | is winmyth broke with 0.19 |
| [19:21:00] | TUplink: | whats the deal w/ winmyth |
| [19:21:00] | TUplink: | ? |
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| [19:24:00] | briand: | the protocol used for communications between frontend and backend has changed significantly, so unless you have a brand-spankin' new winmyth, chances are it won't work |
| [19:25:00] | scopeuk: | 0.19 win myth is up now |
| [19:25:00] | TUplink: | i just downloaded it all |
| [19:25:00] | scopeuk: | you got latest version of dsmyth as well? |
| [19:26:00] | TUplink: | yup... |
| [19:26:00] | TUplink: | let me load it and tell you what it says |
| [19:27:00] | TUplink: | i might have an idea |
| [19:27:00] | scopeuk: | quick have another before it gets lonley |
| [19:27:00] | TUplink: | what port would mythbackend use by default |
| [19:27:00] | scopeuk: | sorry couldent resist |
| [19:27:00] | TUplink: | thats funny |
| [19:28:00] | TUplink: | i have dsmyth using the backend settings from the database.... witch would probably be localhost.... |
| [19:29:00] | scopeuk: | dsmyth will need the address of the backend |
| [19:29:00] | TUplink: | got it.... |
| [19:29:00] | scopeuk: | toerh wise it will be trying to conenct to the database on itself which if it is windows obviously isent the master backend database |
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| [19:30:00] | Nemesis: | My X server keeps failing to load. Looking at the log file: (WW) Nividia: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:4:0) – Fatal Server Error: No Screens Found |
| [19:30:00] | Nemesis: | I ran lspci | grep VGA and copied the busID into my X-config. Anyone have any ideas? |
| [19:31:00] | TUplink: | note to all..... this could be helpful down the line.... i was getting an error.... "cmythbase couild not be initialized" ... in dsmyth i had it set to use the settings from the database.... i changed that to the ip and now it works |
| [19:31:00] | TUplink: | use the original xorg.conf |
| [19:32:00] | scopeuk: | TUplink you have to give it the ip before it knows where the database is to get the settings |
| [19:32:00] | TUplink: | no.. i got that and the mysql test came back corect |
| [19:33:00] | TUplink: | the ones in network |
| [19:33:00] | Nemesis: | TUplink, I tried the original config... taht didn't work so I changed the BusID |
| [19:33:00] | TUplink: | the original dosent work... isnt that all generic drivers? |
| [19:34:00] | TUplink: | i dont know much bout X |
| [19:34:00] | Nemesis: | Thats what I thought... I'm running a Nvidia FX5200 |
| [19:34:00] | TUplink: | i have a 5300 i belive and it worked b4 i caned fedora |
| [19:35:00] | Nemesis: | I'm running KnoppMyth... |
| [19:35:00] | Nemesis: | Just not sure what it could be |
| [19:35:00] | TUplink: | oh... |
| [19:35:00] | TUplink: | where was the original config |
| [19:35:00] | TUplink: | maybe X is broke |
| [19:35:00] | TUplink: | a reinstall might fix it |
| [19:35:00] | Nemesis: | Yeah, just did that about 10 minutes ago lol |
| [19:36:00] | TUplink: | hum... and still dont work |
| [19:36:00] | TUplink: | i dunno... i had an ati radion that i was having trouble w/ getting the tvout to work.... but strugled threw that |
| [19:37:00] | TUplink: | can you disable plug-n-play in the bios |
| [19:37:00] | TUplink: | make the os do the pnp |
| [19:38:00] | TUplink: | i had a FreeBSD that thats the ontrolerly way it would fing the IDE co |
| [19:38:00] | Nemesis: | Naw, its a Dimension 2350... they pretty much give you nothing to work with in the Bios |
| [19:39:00] | TUplink: | yea... thats dell 4 you |
| [19:39:00] | TUplink: | humm.... |
| [19:40:00] | Nemesis: | I did just flash the Bios last night... It gave me the ability to disable the onboard video. Prior to the Bios upgrade X started fine |
| [19:40:00] | TUplink: | do u have apt-get? |
| [19:40:00] | Nemesis: | Not sure... |
| [19:40:00] | Nemesis: | What do I want to get? |
| [19:41:00] | scopeuk: | knoppmyth has apt-get |
| [19:41:00] | Nemesis: | Ok |
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| [19:42:00] | TUplink: | try this xorg.conf |
| [19:42:00] | TUplink: | http://georgi.unixsol.org/programs/X11/xorg-c . . . ed-1680x1050 |
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| [19:43:00] | TUplink: | might need 2 change the bus |
| [19:43:00] | Nemesis: | Is there an easy way to load that on my Mythbox? |
| [19:43:00] | TUplink: | fetch http://georgi.unixsol.org/programs/X11/xorg-c . . . ed-1680x1050 |
| [19:43:00] | TUplink: | or wget |
| [19:43:00] | mlb: | hello. does anyone have experience using nuvexport with 1080i source? |
| [19:44:00] | xris: | mlb: it doesn't work |
| [19:44:00] | Nemesis: | Hmmm, I just ran ifconfig to make sure I had net access and it isn't showing my network adapter now |
| [19:44:00] | Nemesis: | just "lo" |
| [19:44:00] | mlb: | when i run nuvexport, the resulting file has "rolling" colors.... |
| [19:44:00] | xris: | mlb: yes |
| [19:44:00] | xris: | it's a bug with the encoders, not nuvexport. no one can figure out how to fix it. |
| [19:45:00] | mlb: | shoot....hmmm.....is it only with 1080i? |
| [19:45:00] | xris: | yeah |
| [19:45:00] | xris: | 720 and smaller works fine |
| [19:46:00] | TUplink: | lo? |
| [19:46:00] | mlb: | hmm...is there any type of workaround? (i really don't care about having 1080i, its just i'm using firewire) |
| [19:48:00] | Nemesis: | local I belive |
| [19:48:00] | xris: | mlb: wish there was. I've passed around a 1080i sample to a bunch of people, and we can get it to encode properly from the raw file, but not running through mythtranscode. |
| [19:48:00] | Nemesis: | believe* |
| [19:48:00] | TUplink: | Nemesis dose you box have inet? |
| [19:48:00] | mlb: | xris: how would you do it from the raw file? |
| [19:49:00] | Nemesis: | Yes |
| [19:49:00] | xris: | dunno. slicerdicer is the one who figured it out, and he's not here now. |
| [19:49:00] | TUplink: | type fetch |
| [19:49:00] | TUplink: | and c if it can find that command |
| [19:49:00] | TUplink: | or "whereis fetch" |
| [19:50:00] | mlb: | xris: ok, thx for the confirm....time to get a tv tuner :) |
| [19:50:00] | xris: | nah. would LOVE to figure out how to fix the 1080i thing... |
| [19:50:00] | Nemesis: | nope... |
| [19:51:00] | TUplink: | wget? |
| [19:51:00] | ** scopeuk wishes he could get hd ** | |
| [19:51:00] | mlb: | well, i only really want to get mythtv working so I can record shows and put them on my ipod. i wanted to test it out on the cheap before i put any money into it. |
| [19:51:00] | mlb: | except for this issue (which only appears to be a problem because im using firewire and can only get 1080i content) everything else is working (the export to ipod works perectly) |
| [19:52:00] | mlb: | perfectly |
| [19:52:00] | xris: | mlb: yup |
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| [19:54:00] | Gumby: | does anyone have an opinion on which card type is the easiest to setup. I am talking with someone that just wants the card to be put in the box and have a "guarantee" that it will work with minimal effort |
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| [19:54:00] | xris: | Gumby: what kind of tv signal? |
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| [19:54:00] | Gumby: | regular cable |
| [19:55:00] | xris: | pvr-150 is going to be the best card... though a standard v4l card might be easier to set up (won't look as nice, though) |
| [19:55:00] | TUplink: | PVR-500 |
| [19:55:00] | Gumby: | he has a v4l card right now cx88xx and cant get it to work |
| [19:56:00] | TUplink: | i need a USB or FIREWIRE tuner on fedora core... any recomendations? |
| [19:56:00] | Pitchin_uk: | any people in here from the uk and running myth 0.19 |
| [19:58:00] | squish102: | xris, how do i go about (any pointer) to get mythweb video installed like in this pic http://www.juski.co.uk/images/mythvideoweb.png |
| [19:58:00] | xris: | Pitchin_uk: the usual UK'ers don't seem to be around |
| [19:58:00] | Pitchin_uk: | shame cos im stuck on the mythtv-setup |
| [19:58:00] | xris: | squish102: no clue. I don't use it. |
| [19:58:00] | squish102: | ok thanks, will wait for juski to come back |
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| [20:06:00] | mlb: | xris: would the encoding issue occur on a ripped dvd? |
| [20:06:00] | xris: | huh? |
| [20:06:00] | Brov: | How do I set a bash script variable to the result of an sql select |
| [20:07:00] | mlb: | if i rip a dvd using myth and then run nuvexport, it shouldn't have the wierd color problem i'm having with 1080i content, right? |
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| [20:10:00] | xris: | mlb: nuvexport only works on tv recordings. |
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| [20:11:00] | mlb: | i guess that takes care of that then:-) |
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| [20:14:00] | Brov: | how do I put the result of this in a variable for later use? "SELECT data FROM settings WHERE value = 'Deinterlace' and hostname = 'mythtv';" |
| [20:14:00] | Brov: | using in bash script |
| [20:15:00] | briand: | the real question is, how are you going to execute an SQL statement from a bash script? |
| [20:15:00] | mlb: | anyone use the "WinTV-PVR 150 MCE-LP" card? |
| [20:15:00] | meushi: | briand: echo $SQLSTATEMENT | mysql ? |
| [20:15:00] | Brov: | im using sql in batch mode works fine |
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| [20:16:00] | ** briand shakes his head and mumbles. ** | |
| [20:16:00] | Brov: | mysql -t |
| [20:17:00] | briand: | Brov: you might consider writing your app in perl, and using DBI to access the database... it's quite a bit more robust. |
| [20:17:00] | Brov: | yer its such a simple little script |
| [20:17:00] | laga: | Brov: umm, try FOO = `echo SELECT data FROM settings WHERE value = 'Deinterlace' and hostname = 'mythtv' | mysql` |
| [20:17:00] | briand: | then it shouldn't take long. |
| [20:17:00] | laga: | bah, perl |
| [20:18:00] | laga: | Brov: what are you gonna do? benchmarking? ;) |
| [20:18:00] | Brov: | mysql -t <<STOP |
| [20:18:00] | Brov: | USE mythconverg; |
| [20:18:00] | Brov: | UPDATE settings SET data = '2' WHERE value = 'Deinterlace' and data = '1' and hostname = 'mythtv'; |
| [20:18:00] | Brov: | UPDATE settings SET data = '1' WHERE value = 'Deinterlace' and data = '0' and hostname = 'mythtv'; |
| [20:18:00] | Brov: | UPDATE settings SET data = '0' WHERE value = 'Deinterlace' and data = '2' and hostname = 'mythtv'; |
| [20:18:00] | Brov: | \q |
| [20:18:00] | Brov: | STOP |
| [20:18:00] | Brov: | BUT I wanna know what the value of Deinterlace is |
| [20:19:00] | Brov: | I'm gonna toggle between a mythtv config for my TV and projector swap in/out XF86Config's , change deint car and restart gdm |
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| [20:20:00] | Nemesis: | is an Intel Pentium 4 1.8ghz classify as i586 or i686? |
| [20:20:00] | laga: | i686 |
| [20:20:00] | meushi: | Nemesis: i686 |
| [20:20:00] | Nemesis: | Thanks guys |
| [20:21:00] | meushi: | anything after Pentium MMX is i686 |
| [20:21:00] | meushi: | (simplified) |
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| [20:22:00] | Brov: | so ne1 know ? |
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| [20:23:00] | laga: | Brov: umm, see above. |
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| [20:26:00] | Jasper^bed: | hmm time to get firewire running |
| [20:26:00] | Jasper^bed: | :P |
| [20:26:00] | TUplink: | dose the ATI USB tuners work with mythtv? |
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| [20:32:00] | Nemesis: | So I had a working box. I installed an Fx5200 and now my boot sequence crashes. The final lines consist of server hex codes. What would be the cause of this? |
| [20:32:00] | dev-: | the polarization of the moon between the earth and venus, would be my guess |
| [20:32:00] | Nemesis: | Really... |
| [20:33:00] | briand: | dev-: you've neglected the decentralization of the magnetic flux during equinox... |
| [20:33:00] | dev-: | dammit i knew i missed something |
| [20:33:00] | briand: | s'okay.. it's a common enough omission |
| [20:33:00] | meushi: | dev-: you also forgot "static buildup from nylon underwear" |
| [20:33:00] | Nemesis: | My guess is drivers? |
| [20:34:00] | briand: | meushi: hmm... didn't Mythbusters do an episode on that?? |
| [20:34:00] | meushi: | briand: don't know, I don't get Mythbusters here :( |
| [20:35:00] | briand: | so sad.. what a cool show. |
| [20:35:00] | meushi: | I don't even get that many english programs... sucks a lot |
| [20:35:00] | briand: | meushi: where is "here" ? |
| [20:35:00] | meushi: | briand: luxembourg |
| [20:36:00] | briand: | ..and you can't get Discovery channel off one of the birds? |
| [20:36:00] | meushi: | It's in the pipe... I need a second dish, 2 extra heads and some cards |
| [20:36:00] | briand: | ah. :) |
| [20:37:00] | meushi: | as soon as that is done, I tell my cable co to stuff it |
| [20:37:00] | briand: | ...i don't know what your current setup is like... but I'll go ahead and suggest additional diskspace as well. :) |
| [20:37:00] | meushi: | yeah, planned as soon as I get money back from the tax office |
| [20:37:00] | meushi: | already upgrading the mobo and CPU |
| [20:38:00] | briand: | cool |
| [20:38:00] | meushi: | cely 667@830 -> AMD64 venice 3000+ |
| [20:38:00] | meushi: | should help for nuvexport |
| [20:38:00] | briand: | yup.. i should think |
| [20:39:00] | meushi: | nuv to xvid, 2 passes took 19h for a 45 minutes show |
| [20:39:00] | briand: | ouch |
| [20:40:00] | Pitchin_uk: | any dvb-t and 0.19 users in??? |
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| [20:44:00] | Pitchin_uk: | any uk + 0.19 users in at all |
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| [20:53:00] | caitlin: | boom |
| [20:53:00] | caitlin: | hey guys |
| [20:53:00] | Juski: | omg the brokenness |
| [20:54:00] | caitlin: | my box refuses to tune to abc1 (uk freeview) and if i set it to record shows from there it makes a 0byte file.... it *did* work.. usual score, chucked in some upgrades and broke something, any idea on where to look for reasons? |
| [20:54:00] | Juski: | caitlin: hiya |
| [20:54:00] | caitlin: | running in a termnal doesn't spew any crap when it tries to tune, and it just bounces back to the channel i was trying to switch from |
| [20:55:00] | Juski: | abc1? maybe it's developed taste (kidding) |
| [20:55:00] | caitlin: | hehe, but i neeeeed home improvement :P |
| [20:55:00] | Juski: | caitlin: are you running 0.19 ? |
| [20:55:00] | caitlin: | i can't find any other broken stations |
| [20:55:00] | caitlin: | should be, i'm on ubuntu |
| [20:56:00] | Juski: | oh wait a second... are you using tv_grab_uk_rt for your EPG ? |
| [20:56:00] | caitlin: | yup |
| [20:56:00] | Juski: | aha! |
| [20:56:00] | Juski: | abc1 goes off the air at 6 or 7pm on freeview |
| [20:56:00] | Jasper^bed: | damn it's hard getting firewire to work in gentoo |
| [20:56:00] | Jasper^bed: | :P |
| [20:56:00] | caitlin: | oh |
| [20:56:00] | Pitchin_uk: | evening juski |
| [20:57:00] | caitlin: | how come it's got listings? |
| [20:57:00] | caitlin: | so i'm just fick then? :P |
| [20:57:00] | Juski: | caitlin: because on satellite & cable it's on for longer ;-) |
| [20:57:00] | Juski: | hiya Pitchin_uk |
| [20:57:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: I think you had this problem didn't you? |
| [20:57:00] | caitlin: | oh poo... *wonders if she can tell her guide to get freeview listings only** |
| [20:57:00] | Juski: | caitlin: you can sort of solve the problem by using the on-air guide for that channel |
| [20:58:00] | caitlin: | that'll be some learning then... so far google foo has got me watching tv at all |
| [20:58:00] | Juski: | but that brings its own snags in that 0.19's EIT (over the air) EPG grabber has a tendency to eat CPU like billy-o |
| [20:58:00] | caitlin: | i'm plagued by the new nova-t remote that doesn't work right.. .it's quite a "challenge" at the moment |
| [20:59:00] | caitlin: | hmm, i'm only (ppft "only") running a 1.6G amd athlon |
| [20:59:00] | Juski: | caitlin: you got this far, I'm sure getting myth to grab the EIT data will be easy enough with some hints ;-) |
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| [20:59:00] | Pitchin_uk: | Juski – which problem is that |
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| [21:00:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: was it you who was getting blank recordings from ABC1 ? |
| [21:00:00] | caitlin: | ubuntu comes with no build environment... i learned what *nix i know from gentoo... so compiling things is easy |
| [21:00:00] | Pitchin_uk: | no i was just getting blank listings for every channel |
| [21:00:00] | caitlin: | what i dont know is how to get everything i need to compile for ubuntu :/ |
| [21:00:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: okees – np |
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| [21:00:00] | Pitchin_uk: | Juski – are you using dvb-t on 0.19?? |
| [21:00:00] | Juski: | caitlin: apt get build-dep mythtv for a start |
| [21:01:00] | ** Juski is using 2 DVB-T tuners and a PVR150 on 0.19 ** | |
| [21:01:00] | mythuser: | i am using mythtv 0.19 with a nexus-s dvb-card, and when I am watching live-tv the video is croppy.. what can i do? |
| [21:01:00] | Pitchin_uk: | cool |
| [21:01:00] | Juski: | mythuser: croppy? or crappy? |
| [21:01:00] | caitlin: | fricking hell, that finds a lot of things i've not installed! |
| [21:01:00] | Pitchin_uk: | im just switching to 0.19 but cant seem to get a good channel scan |
| [21:02:00] | qfx: | excuse me, does anyone here use an ivtv card under Suse? |
| [21:02:00] | Juski: | caitlin: build-dep is a lot of the source of libraries you need to compile mythtv. you already have the binaries |
| [21:02:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: you shoulda kept your 0.18 DB and just done an upgrade man |
| [21:02:00] | caitlin: | it's ir-common i need to mess with |
| [21:02:00] | mythuser: | Juski: both :) it is stutteling... |
| [21:02:00] | galorin: | ok, I grabbed today's SV (about 12 hurs ago) and built it. Channel scan came up with zip, so I imported a channels.conf. But I can't watch livetv. See http://pastebin.ca/43151 |
| [21:03:00] | caitlin: | thanks for the nice reception by the way.. i'm very much used to "fuck off noob" channels :D |
| [21:03:00] | Juski: | mythuser: what video card do you have? nvidia? if nvidia, are you using the latest driver? if yes, downgrade it to 7667 |
| [21:03:00] | Pitchin_uk: | ouch – ive moved boxes and blatted the old one :( |
| [21:03:00] | qfx: | rebooting, brb |
| [21:03:00] | laga: | Juski: 7676! |
| [21:03:00] | laga: | ;) |
| [21:03:00] | Juski: | caitlin: it's not so long ago I was a noob who new how to ls |
| [21:03:00] | Juski: | *knew |
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| [21:03:00] | alex777: | is there a way to auto-populate the fields for the web interface of mythvideo ? |
| [21:03:00] | Juski: | laga: 7666 whatever |
| [21:03:00] | Juski: | ;) |
| [21:04:00] | mythuser: | Juski: using 7174.. |
| [21:04:00] | Juski: | mythuser: what speed is your CPU? |
| [21:04:00] | Pitchin_uk: | whats the easiest way to do the channel scan on 0.19 then |
| [21:04:00] | laga: | Juski: \m/ ;) |
| [21:04:00] | mythuser: | 2 GHz |
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| [21:05:00] | Juski: | caitlin: since you're going to compile 0.19, you may as well have a look in trac for the EIT patches to greatly improve performace |
| [21:05:00] | caitlin: | i've got no excuse, i work for an ISP in the NOC |
| [21:05:00] | Juski: | mythuser: unless you're trying to watch HDTV you should be ok with that |
| [21:05:00] | mythuser: | is it any forums to post this problem? |
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| [21:06:00] | Juski: | well, mythuser, running mythfrontend in a terminal window & posting some of its messages might help |
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| [21:06:00] | Pitchin_uk: | Juski – you going to be on later tonight?? |
| [21:06:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | I've just done a new install of gentoo for a frontend, but whenever I try to run the frontend, Iget the message "QSqlDatabase: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded" |
| [21:07:00] | Juski: | caitlin: this channel is usually friendly, but generally not to people who ask really dumb questions like "anyone here using mythtv?" ;-) |
| [21:07:00] | Mersault: | I'm trying to get mythtv running on an ubuntu install, but when I try and launch mythtv-setup, all I get is the mythtv background, but not actual setup options |
| [21:07:00] | mythuser: | Juski: A time ago I had the same problem, but suddenly it worked.. Yesterday I rebooted and then it didn't work.. i don't know what changes i might have done |
| [21:07:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: gimme a break man. I found scanning in SVN (before 0.19) to be a right pig – there've been some patches recently you might like to try |
| [21:08:00] | Juski: | mythuser: are your video drivers being loaded properly? |
| [21:08:00] | mishehu: | one of these days I need to actually configure up my pchdtv3000 |
| [21:08:00] | mishehu: | so pathetic, I never got around to it. |
| [21:08:00] | Juski: | one of these days I won't spend any time in here on a Saturday night :-/ |
| [21:09:00] | Pitchin_uk: | juski – didnt mean to offend – im just going to come back later |
| [21:09:00] | mythuser: | Juski: I recon so.. This errors i get in mythfrontend: [mpeg2video @ 0x40e88500]ac-tex damaged at 0 32 |
| [21:09:00] | mythuser: | [mpeg2video @ 0x40e88500]ac-tex damaged at 1 33 |
| [21:09:00] | mythuser: | [mpeg2video @ 0x40e88500]ac-tex damaged at 0 34 |
| [21:09:00] | mythuser: | [mpeg2video @ 0x40e88500]invalid mb type in I Frame at 0 35 |
| [21:09:00] | mythuser: | [mpeg2video @ 0x40e88500]Warning MVs not available |
| [21:09:00] | mythuser: | 2006-02–25 22:16:39.788 rebuffering (19357 32768) |
| [21:09:00] | mythuser: | 2006-02–25 22:16:41.544 rebuffering (2353 32768) |
| [21:09:00] | mythuser: | 2006-02–25 22:16:41.774 NVP: prebuffering pause |
| [21:09:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: I was just saying... having a typing frenzy right now |
| [21:09:00] | mythuser: | 2006-02–25 22:16:42.249 NVP: prebuffering pause |
| [21:09:00] | mythuser: | 2006-02–25 22:16:42.273 rebuffering (32549 32768) |
| [21:09:00] | mythuser: | 2006-02–25 22:16:43.082 rebuffering (4409 32768) |
| [21:09:00] | mythuser: | 2006-02–25 22:16:43.086 NVP: prebuffering pause |
| [21:09:00] | mythuser: | 2006-02–25 22:16:43.644 rebuffering (31297 32768) |
| [21:09:00] | mythuser: | 2006-02–25 22:16:43.723 NVP: prebuffering pause |
| [21:10:00] | mythuser: | 2006-02–25 22:16:44.304 rebuffering (6917 32768) |
| [21:10:00] | mishehu: | jeezuz |
| [21:10:00] | Juski: | mythuser: ffs.. pastebin !!!!!!!! |
| [21:10:00] | mythuser: | 2006-02–25 22:16:44.499 NVP: prebuffering pause |
| [21:10:00] | laga: | mythuser: thanks for flooding. use pastebin.ca next time |
| [21:10:00] | dev-: | oh ggod die please |
| [21:10:00] | mythuser: | 2006-02–25 22:16:44.892 NVP: prebuffering pause |
| [21:10:00] | mythuser: | 2006-02–25 22:16:45.109 TV: Attempting to change from WatchingLiveTV to None |
| [21:10:00] | mishehu: | enough fwith teh flood moron |
| [21:10:00] | mythuser: | [mpeg2video @ 0x40e88500]ac-tex damaged at 0 7 |
| [21:10:00] | mythuser: | [mpeg2video @ 0x40e88500]Warning MVs not available |
| [21:10:00] | mythuser: | 2006-02–25 22:16:45.128 rebuffering (1 32768) |
| [21:10:00] | mythuser: | 2006-02–25 22:16:46.075 TV: Changing from WatchingLiveTV to None |
| [21:10:00] | dev-: | die please? |
| [21:10:00] | laga: | awesome |
| [21:10:00] | mishehu: | it's a shame the server didn't disconnect him. |
| [21:10:00] | Juski: | mythuser: looks like you've never used a pastebin before |
| [21:10:00] | dev-: | or know anything about irc etiquette |
| [21:10:00] | Juski: | could also be your dish is out of kilter ;-) |
| [21:10:00] | mythuser: | you saw right trough me.. |
| [21:11:00] | mishehu: | no, we couldn't |
| [21:11:00] | Pitchin_uk: | juski – yeah i can see – mines not important – i'll catch you when your less busy |
| [21:11:00] | mishehu: | you flooded the channel |
| [21:11:00] | mishehu: | can't see thru that junk. |
| [21:11:00] | Juski: | mythuser: be a good lad & try szap to see if you can get a decent picture that doesn't break up ;-) |
| [21:11:00] | dev-: | you'll get much more help from google than anyone in here now, probably |
| [21:11:00] | Juski: | I won't take that personally dev |
| [21:12:00] | dev-: | i sure wouldnt be helping a tool like that ;p |
| [21:13:00] | laga: | gee |
| [21:13:00] | dev-: | 'lets paste 30 fucking lines of bs, but still get help' woohoo |
| [21:13:00] | caitlin: | um, should you rip out 0.18 before doijng make install on 0.19 |
| [21:13:00] | laga: | everyone can make a mistake. stop being a tool, dev |
| [21:13:00] | caitlin: | crap, i need to wash up before my gf gets back |
| [21:13:00] | Jasper^bed: | anyone here got experience with linux and firewire? |
| [21:13:00] | dev-: | if it was a mistake he'd apologize |
| [21:13:00] | dev-: | yet i see nothing of the sort, except a smart ass remark |
| [21:14:00] | mishehu: | he's a dev tool |
| [21:14:00] | nasa: | When I try to compile mythreciepe I get "*** No rule to make target `/usr/share/qt3/mkspecs/default/qmake.conf', needed by `Makefile'", since my makefile skills are really lacking... |
| [21:14:00] | Juski: | caitlin: you should probably apt-remove or whatever, yes |
| [21:14:00] | mythuser: | Juski: I get smooth video, but the sound is not synced.. |
| [21:15:00] | Juski: | mythuser: sound out of sync? minor thing related to the player... you get smooth video that's the main thing. were you szapping the same channel you had problems with in myth ? |
| [21:16:00] | Juski: | caitlin: under the thumb eh? heheh |
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| [21:18:00] | mythuser: | Juski: The video is fine on any channel in szap.. |
| [21:18:00] | Juski: | what is it tonight? major PHP downage night? every google search I've done has taken me to pages where php isn't working |
| [21:18:00] | Juski: | mythuser: okay so that narrows the problem down to mythtv |
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| [21:19:00] | Juski: | mythuser: you could try using a different mpeg decoder method in settings > tv settings > playback |
| [21:19:00] | Juski: | libmpeg works better for some people |
| [21:20:00] | Jasper^bed: | juski do you know anything about firewire in combination with gentoo ? |
| [21:22:00] | mythuser: | Juski: Only got default and libmpeg2.. |
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| [21:22:00] | mike_d_: | anybody besides me having issues with ffwd/rew under 0.19? i upgraded from 0.18 and everything's great except for not being able to watch what i'm ffwd/rew-ing past. |
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| [21:24:00] | Mersault: | I'm trying to get mythtv running on an ubuntu install, but when I try and launch mythtv-setup, all I get is the mythtv background, but not actual setup option |
| [21:24:00] | STemplar: | he guys I've got a strange thing. At certain moments my controls hang (I can't use my keyboard or remote anymore). Anybody know anything about it? |
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| [21:24:00] | Jusk1: | it relies on scsi support being built into your kernel if my memory serves me well though |
| [21:24:00] | Jusk1: | (which could be wrong) |
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| [21:25:00] | mythuser: | Jusk1: http://pastebin.ca/43154 there is my log.. |
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| [21:25:00] | caitlin: | i'm not under the thumb..... much |
| [21:25:00] | caitlin: | just she works two jobs so my playtime gets cut :P |
| [21:26:00] | Jusk1: | awww |
| [21:27:00] | Jusk1: | mythuser: have you tried scheduling any recordings to see how well that works? those might fare better... there's a whole load of DVB code rework going on right now which might help out |
| [21:27:00] | caitlin: | this mythtv thing seems to spend 24x7 recording desperate housewives :P |
| [21:27:00] | Jusk1: | I was looking fwd to a night of mythtv tonight.. but mrs decided to stay in, so the telly is devoted to shite instead |
| [21:28:00] | caitlin: | what do you think of as "shite"? |
| [21:28:00] | Jusk1: | dancing on ice |
| [21:28:00] | Jusk1: | rosemary & fucking time |
| [21:28:00] | Jusk1: | stuff like that |
| [21:28:00] | caitlin: | lol |
| [21:28:00] | Jusk1: | ITV |
| [21:28:00] | caitlin: | please not stars in their eyes?! |
| [21:29:00] | Jusk1: | yep |
| [21:29:00] | Jusk1: | it's on ITV isn't it? dead cert |
| [21:29:00] | mythuser: | Jusk1: Is there any way to reset all settings in mythtv? |
| [21:29:00] | caitlin: | see.... you're with the wrong woman... nuff said |
| [21:29:00] | Jusk1: | saying that we just watched episode 9 of '24' |
| [21:29:00] | caitlin: | mythuser... mythtv-setup delete all the cruft |
| [21:29:00] | Jusk1: | wrong one? I managed to find one who doesn't empty my wallet – I thought that was a good enough deal |
| [21:30:00] | meushi: | heh |
| [21:30:00] | mythuser: | i want to delete everything in mythfronftend too.. |
| [21:30:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | I've just done a new install of gentoo for a frontend, but whenever I try to run the frontend, Iget the message "QSqlDatabase: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded" |
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| [21:31:00] | Jusk1: | JoeyJoeJo: using mysql5? or otherwise missing Qt3 by any chance? or erm... Qt-mysql? |
| [21:32:00] | caitlin: | takes a while to compile mythtv dunnit |
| [21:32:00] | laga: | JoeyJoeJo: make sure that 'myql' is in your use flags for qt. |
| [21:32:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | hmm.. let me check which version of mysql I'm using |
| [21:32:00] | qfx: | Need help? I'm not getting sound out of my ivtv card, is there an ivtvctl setting to enable sound that might be off? |
| [21:32:00] | Jusk1: | if you've got mysql4, don't install 5 |
| [21:32:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | crap, I do have mysql 5 |
| [21:33:00] | Jusk1: | 0.19 will work with 5, don't fret yet |
| [21:33:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | I wasn't paying attention when I was emerge everything |
| [21:33:00] | laga: | huh? JoeyJoeJo, are you sure that mysql 5 is stable in gentoo yet? |
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| [21:33:00] | Jusk1: | it's hard to pay attention when gentoo pulls in all the dependencies.. unless you find it fun to watch miles of text scrolling by |
| [21:33:00] | laga: | caitlin: yep, it does :/ |
| [21:33:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | nah, I probably did the ACCEPT_KEYWORDS stuff |
| [21:33:00] | laga: | Jusk1: emerge -pv? |
| [21:34:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | I think I'll just unemerge mysql5 and put on 4 |
| [21:34:00] | laga: | JoeyJoeJo: heh. well, learn to work portage then. ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~arch is rather unwise... i just added media-tv/mythtv to /etc/portage/package.keywords. |
| [21:34:00] | opello: | all of the mysql-5* are masked |
| [21:34:00] | caitlin: | compiling should have some bullshit progress bar, just to make you feel better |
| [21:34:00] | qfx: | Need Help! :) Please? |
| [21:34:00] | laga: | caitlin: what hardware are you compiling on? |
| [21:34:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | caitlin: hell yes |
| [21:35:00] | Jusk1: | qfx: pick a better band name to use as your handle, that might help |
| [21:35:00] | caitlin: | i'm on a 1.6g althon and about half a gig of ram |
| [21:35:00] | qfx: | Jusk1 is there a ban called qfx? |
| [21:35:00] | caitlin: | emerge -p is love |
| [21:35:00] | laga: | qfx: please stand by, our hell desk is currently busy. enjoy some music while you're waiting, one of our trained monkeys will get to you soon |
| [21:35:00] | briand is now known as dire | |
| [21:35:00] | qfx: | maybe a '/nick led zepplin' |
| [21:35:00] | Jusk1: | qfx: if you don't know QFX, be grateful is all I can say ;-) |
| [21:35:00] | dire is now known as briand | |
| [21:36:00] | Jusk1: | scotting rave outfit from the 1990s |
| [21:36:00] | Jusk1: | *scottish... |
| [21:36:00] | Jusk1: | bloody awful they are |
| [21:36:00] | Jusk1: | anyway... |
| [21:36:00] | STemplar: | wow finally spice platinum works :D |
| [21:36:00] | qfx: | jusk1 Lmao! I never knew! You're the first to comment on that....... I'll remember to avoid them |
| [21:36:00] | caitlin: | i was once sick to chesney hawkes miming to "i am the one and only" |
| [21:36:00] | caitlin: | *that* is bad music |
| [21:36:00] | qfx: | laga : Thanks, I'll stand by |
| [21:37:00] | briand is now known as dire_straits | |
| [21:37:00] | qfx: | So seroiusly though, if anyone does know how to get sound out of an ivtv card, that'd be helpful. I might just need to enable it with ivtvctl or something for all I know |
| [21:37:00] | laga: | caitlin: genlop -i mythtv says: Average merge time: 1 hour, 10 seconds. – my hardware is similar to yours. odd, i'd expect it to take only like 30 or 45 minutes |
| [21:37:00] | dire_straits: | qfx: what does `ivtvctl -C` say in the audio parameters line? |
| [21:37:00] | Jusk1: | qfx: if it's a pvr150 card, you need to closely study the guides at www.ivtvdriver.org |
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| [21:38:00] | caitlin: | aww, that's dull... that's bloody ages, and i've done it in an ssh session without screen :/ |
| [21:38:00] | qfx: | briand: Do I need to pass in a parameter to say what device to check? |
| [21:38:00] | ** caitlin waits for it to die ** | |
| [21:38:00] | Jasper^bed: | qfx ? |
| [21:38:00] | Jasper^bed: | what do you mean get sound? |
| [21:38:00] | qfx: | It says "not an ivtv driver device" However, I can cat /dev/video > foo.mpeg and it gets video |
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| [21:38:00] | briand: | qfx: by default, it checks your first device "/dev/video0" |
| [21:38:00] | Jusk1: | caitlin: qfx are worse than chesney hawkes, believe me |
| [21:38:00] | Jusk1: | think 'scooter', but worse |
| [21:39:00] | Jasper^bed: | ./dev/v4l/video0 |
| [21:39:00] | caitlin: | bargin bin! |
| [21:39:00] | qfx: | Jusk1 It is indeed a pvr150 |
| [21:39:00] | briand: | qfx: to check others, add "-d /dev/videoX", where X = device number (0,1,2,3,etc) |
| [21:39:00] | Jasper^bed: | qfx did you set the tuner yourself? |
| [21:39:00] | qfx: | briand thanks, since I can cat it at /dev/video I thought that might do it... I'll try 0 |
| [21:39:00] | Jasper^bed: | in ivtv |
| [21:39:00] | Jusk1: | qfx: did you follow the guides at ivtvdriver.org ? |
| [21:39:00] | qfx: | Jasper I tuned it with ptune-ui |
| [21:40:00] | Jasper^bed: | qfx how did you install the drivers? |
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| [21:40:00] | Jusk1: | cos the pvr150 needs 2 firmware files.. one for the mpeg encoder & one to initialise the audio side of it |
| [21:40:00] | qfx: | Jusk1 Yes, but I didn't see any specific sound guides... I installed the drivers by make && make install |
| [21:40:00] | Jasper^bed: | correct |
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| [21:40:00] | qfx: | the dmesg | grep ivtv doesn't show much |
| [21:40:00] | qfx: | Jusk1, that might very well be it.... |
| [21:40:00] | STemplar: | he guys do you know why it is possible that my keys get locked in myth? |
| [21:41:00] | STemplar: | livetv works but controlling myth doesn't work anymore |
| [21:41:00] | STemplar: | and remote doesn't work either |
| [21:41:00] | laga: | STemplar: you running a window manager? |
| [21:41:00] | STemplar: | yeah |
| [21:41:00] | STemplar: | evilwm |
| [21:41:00] | laga: | oh, ok. dunno then |
| [21:41:00] | STemplar: | but it is strange |
| [21:41:00] | STemplar: | because I didn't had this problem |
| [21:41:00] | STemplar: | it just appeared |
| [21:41:00] | Jasper^bed: | qfx you need v4l-cx25840.fw |
| [21:41:00] | Jasper^bed: | for audio |
| [21:42:00] | ** Jusk1 goes for a refill ** | |
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| [21:42:00] | Jasper^bed: | compiling kernel..it's a bitch |
| [21:42:00] | Jasper^bed: | :(I |
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| [21:43:00] | qfx: | Jasper^bed thanks... I'll look for that at ivtvdriver.org |
| [21:44:00] | qfx: | Jasper, I've done this from the firmware that shipped with my card: cp HcwMakoA.ROM /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/v4l-cx25840.fw |
| [21:44:00] | caitlin: | over an hour? i dont think so, it's just finished |
| [21:45:00] | laga: | caitlin: well, that was on my system :) |
| [21:45:00] | caitlin: | hurrah and i get a lovely error trying to start it |
| [21:45:00] | caitlin: | bugger |
| [21:46:00] | laga: | what error? |
| [21:46:00] | qfx: | How do I unload, and reload ivtv with modprobe? |
| [21:47:00] | laga: | heh. looks like 300mhz (pentium 3) isn't quite enough for playback with mythtv ;) |
| [21:47:00] | caitlin: | error whilst loaidng shared libraries: libmythtv-0.19.so.0 |
| [21:47:00] | caitlin: | no such file/directory |
| [21:47:00] | laga: | caitlin: did you compile from scratch? |
| [21:48:00] | caitlin: | i downloaded the stuff from the mythtv site |
| [21:48:00] | laga: | oh |
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| [21:48:00] | laga: | add /usr/local/lib/ to /etc/ld.so.conf and re-run ldconfig |
| [21:48:00] | laga: | (that's in the documentation) |
| [21:49:00] | Jusk1: | I missed that one too |
| [21:50:00] | laga: | everyone does :) |
| [21:51:00] | caitlin: | uuuuum |
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| [21:56:00] | Jusk1: | JD on the case again.. mmmmm |
| [21:56:00] | Jusk1: | gonna have none left at this rate |
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| [21:57:00] | laga: | heh |
| [21:57:00] | caitlin: | the mythtv-setup thing is well differenty :P |
| [21:58:00] | Jusk1: | aye it warns you that mythbackend is still running & asks if you know what you're doing. sucker |
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| [21:59:00] | caitlin: | bugger "recompile with dvb support" |
| [22:00:00] | Jusk1: | caitlin: if you want on-air guide you'll also need to use --enable-dvb-eit in ./configure |
| [22:04:00] | caitlin: | there's only a disable option, so i assume it's in by default |
| [22:04:00] | ** caitlin recompiles ** | |
| [22:04:00] | ** Jusk1 listens to some of his bootlegs again ** | |
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| [22:08:00] | caitlin: | oops, i didn't use qmake |
| [22:08:00] | caitlin: | i wish i could read |
| [22:09:00] | laga: | heh :) |
| [22:09:00] | ** caitlin wonders what qmake *does* ** | |
| [22:09:00] | ** laga listens to stuttering playback and curses non-working nfs shares ** | |
| [22:09:00] | caitlin: | i've never met it before |
| [22:09:00] | laga: | caitlin: i believe it creates makefiles from qt project files |
| [22:09:00] | djohnson: | I'm not sure if any of the folks who were helping me are still here.... Jasper^bed ? |
| [22:10:00] | laga: | well, he's prolly gone to bed ;) |
| [22:10:00] | djohnson: | looks like it :( |
| [22:10:00] | caitlin: | loser, it's only 10 past 10 |
| [22:10:00] | djohnson: | OK, still no sound from my ivtv card... put on the firmware directly from ftp.... no wierd messages in dmesg... I was wondering if there's a mute toggle that I'm probably missing |
| [22:10:00] | laga: | 10 past 11 for me ;) |
| [22:10:00] | djohnson: | Or how to even check if there is |
| [22:10:00] | ** caitlin ignored the rest of the world happily ** | |
| [22:10:00] | djohnson: | it's only 2 in the afternoon here |
| [22:11:00] | laga: | heh. i got up at 2pm today ;) |
| [22:11:00] | caitlin: | it messed me up for real coming back here from mexico |
| [22:11:00] | caitlin: | it took about a week to wake up in the morning |
| [22:11:00] | laga: | heh |
| [22:11:00] | meushi: | $deity blesses time zones |
| [22:12:00] | djohnson: | We probably woke up at the same real time |
| [22:12:00] | laga: | djohnson: sounds romantic ;) |
| [22:12:00] | djohnson: | anyone know anything about ivtvctl? How I can make it point to a specific video device and see the settings |
| [22:13:00] | ** caitlin compiles again :/ ** | |
| [22:13:00] | laga: | djohnson: ivtvctl -h |
| [22:13:00] | djohnson: | laga: it's not the getting up that's romantic... ;) |
| [22:13:00] | Jusk1: | depends what you call... never mind |
| [22:13:00] | Jusk1: | I don't do smut in IRC |
| [22:13:00] | Jusk1: | not this channel anyway |
| [22:13:00] | laga: | Jusk1: too much information ;) |
| [22:13:00] | Jusk1: | lol |
| [22:14:00] | djohnson: | a bunch of linux guys here... yah, mostly we just speak nerdy, not dirty |
| [22:14:00] | ** laga wishes he was less hungover so he could get on with fixing his myth box ** | |
| [22:14:00] | ** Jusk1 beers laga ** | |
| [22:14:00] | ** djohnson wishes laga was less hungover so he could fix my myth box ;) ** | |
| [22:14:00] | Jusk1: | djohnson: speak for yourself |
| [22:14:00] | ** Chutt ponders banning people using gmail from posting to the lists. ** | |
| [22:15:00] | Chutt: | none of them can be bothered to trim their replies. |
| [22:15:00] | mchou: | Chutt: being spammed? |
| [22:15:00] | ** laga gastric juices juski ** | |
| [22:15:00] | mchou: | Chutt: oh, ok |
| [22:15:00] | djohnson: | ivtvctl -a -d /dev/video0 comes back with "not an ivtv driver device" ! |
| [22:15:00] | caitlin: | hrm, still says compile with dvb |
| [22:15:00] | caitlin: | not good |
| [22:15:00] | djohnson: | It most certainly IS an ivtv device! |
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| [22:16:00] | ** djohnson wish he was less sober so he wouldn't care if his mythbox worked ** | |
| [22:16:00] | caitlin: | do you compile as the mythtv user? |
| [22:16:00] | laga: | Chutt: just post an announcement that you don't like it that way. i believe gmail hides quoted content by default |
| [22:16:00] | laga: | caitlin: yeah, why not? |
| [22:17:00] | ballistic: | I've got a PVR-250. I'm getting blips like this when I watch TV via MythTV: <http://halcrow.us/blip.jpg>. If I cat /dev/video0 > file.mpg, those blips don't happen... |
| [22:17:00] | laga: | ballistic: turn on deinterlacing |
| [22:17:00] | Jusk1: | laga: eeew! |
| [22:18:00] | mchou: | damn, these power supplies are getting expensive. |
| [22:18:00] | Jusk1: | I don't think telling gmail users will make much difference |
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| [22:19:00] | mchou: | Frys has a 1KW power supply on sale for only $499 |
| [22:19:00] | Chutt: | laga, i just did. |
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| [22:19:00] | laga: | Chutt: fine. you'll get lots of people yelling at gmail users now. kind of viral punishment... |
| [22:19:00] | narf: | lol i was at frys 1 hour ago and lookat those |
| [22:19:00] | mchou: | who the hell uses one KW?? |
| [22:19:00] | Jusk1: | 1kW? w t f would you need all that for? aside from a 12 disk RAID NAS unit |
| [22:20:00] | narf: | not me hehe |
| [22:20:00] | mchou: | I'd hate to see the electricity bill on that thing :) |
| [22:20:00] | Jusk1: | even then... |
| [22:20:00] | Chutt: | http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/ . . . /125289.html |
| [22:20:00] | narf: | 300w is just dandy for me |
| [22:20:00] | Chutt: | i mean, look at that |
| [22:20:00] | ballistic: | laba: The blips are still there on playback, only they look a little different |
| [22:20:00] | Chutt: | the two morons are bouncing between top posting and bottom posting |
| [22:20:00] | ballistic: | laga |
| [22:20:00] | Chutt: | and not trimming _anything_ |
| [22:21:00] | Jusk1: | morons |
| [22:21:00] | mchou: | narf: so are you in the market for a PSU? |
| [22:21:00] | laga: | http://www.silentpcreview.com/article28-page1.html &ndas h; very good article about power supplies. |
| [22:21:00] | Jusk1: | is bad enough |
| [22:21:00] | Jusk1: | top posting |
| [22:21:00] | mchou: | narf: or did you buy one already? |
| [22:21:00] | narf: | already have one |
| [22:21:00] | narf: | sorry |
| [22:21:00] | Jusk1: | yeh... I've got a 10kW PSU... that's peak peak peak peak output for 1 picosecond |
| [22:21:00] | mchou: | narf: which one are you using? |
| [22:22:00] | djohnson: | You'd have to aircondition your house ifyo uh ada 1kW PSU |
| [22:22:00] | narf: | mchou: generic 300w, StarPower or something |
| [22:22:00] | mchou: | narf: what proc? |
| [22:23:00] | narf: | amd athlon64 3000 939 |
| [22:23:00] | mchou: | narf: SLi? |
| [22:23:00] | laga: | gah. michael haan. my name is michael haas, so i always think it's me posting there |
| [22:23:00] | mchou: | narf: I mean do you have that? |
| [22:23:00] | narf: | that's my myth box, this box has a 3200 oc'd to 2.4Ghz |
| [22:23:00] | narf: | no sli |
| [22:24:00] | mchou: | narf: pci-e though, right? |
| [22:24:00] | narf: | myth box is agp, this one pci-e |
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| [22:25:00] | mchou: | I'm wondering what the minimum wattage/amp rating required for a dual proc amd64 system....... |
| [22:25:00] | dev-: | 1.21 jiggawattz! |
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| [22:26:00] | mchou: | sorry s/proc/core |
| [22:26:00] | Jusk1: | mchou: a system like that will prolly need about 150–200Watts peak.. true power |
| [22:26:00] | narf: | dual-core or dual proc? |
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| [22:26:00] | mchou: | narf: core |
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| [22:27:00] | mchou: | Jusk1: I have an enermax 350 and it's not enough. |
| [22:27:00] | narf: | i think a dual core is around 130w + anything else you have in the system |
| [22:27:00] | Jusk1: | mchou: ouch |
| [22:27:00] | ballistic: | The box I built has 5 7200-RPM drives in RAID-5, an Athlon 64 X2, a PVR-250, an HD-3000, and two additional drive controllers. My 550 watt power supply seems to keep things running. |
| [22:27:00] | Jusk1: | and enermax aren't known for making up specs either |
| [22:28:00] | mchou: | Jusk1: I think it's the psu, but I'm not sure |
| [22:28:00] | ballistic: | I learned a while back that a cheap or under-powered PSU can be the source of much frustration. |
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| [22:28:00] | mchou: | the stupid think only works well once it's warmed up. |
| [22:28:00] | Jusk1: | all these cases you get for like £25 with their '400W' PSUs... that's not going to be 400W of useful power |
| [22:28:00] | mchou: | a cold boot is guaranteed to kernel panic |
| [22:29:00] | ballistic: | The PSU is facing the household input power, which can be a very noisy and unstable source. The PSU needs to be able to take a lot of abuse. |
| [22:29:00] | Jusk1: | maybe 50A on the 12V rail by itself... not much good to run a system though |
| [22:29:00] | mchou: | a warm boot works fine |
| [22:30:00] | mchou: | and memtest86 works great for 24 hrs.... |
| [22:30:00] | mchou: | so I dont think it's a mem issue |
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| [22:32:00] | narf: | just popped in a geforce 5200 and works perfectly with pcHDTV HD-3000 playback: highly recommended |
| [22:33:00] | ballistic: | narf: I still need to set my HD-3000 up. It's just been sitting idle for 3 weeks now while I try to debug everything else in my system. :-) |
| [22:33:00] | mchou: | you got the 5200 at frys for $30? |
| [22:33:00] | mchou: | narf: ^^ |
| [22:33:00] | Pitchin_uk: | evening all |
| [22:33:00] | Jusk1: | evening Pitchin_uk |
| [22:33:00] | narf: | mchou: i didn't see it for 30$, must have gotten ripped of $75 |
| [22:34:00] | ** Jusk1 dons headphones ** | |
| [22:34:00] | mchou: | narf: lol, a 5200 cost $75?? |
| [22:34:00] | mchou: | narf: you got ripped |
| [22:34:00] | ballistic: | For the record, I have a 5500 that does well w/ the HD-3000... |
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| [22:34:00] | Pitchin_uk: | Jusk1 – hi bit of progress i have about 5 channels – the rubbish ones though :( |
| [22:34:00] | Jusk1: | pity the poor fools who bought them when they first came out then ;-) |
| [22:34:00] | mchou: | ballistic: 550W sounds a bit excessive |
| [22:34:00] | narf: | mchou: planning on getting one from newegg and returning this ine |
| [22:35:00] | mchou: | narf: just go to frys. They have a cheap evga for $30 |
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| [22:35:00] | laga: | ballistic: regarding these blips...record some video with cat/dd and use 'mythtv <file.mpeg>' to play the resulting file |
| [22:35:00] | Jasper^bed: | we |
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| [22:35:00] | mchou: | Jusk1: I mean the price for 5200 now. |
| [22:35:00] | Chutt: | i wonder if i can just filter out based on the number of mailman footers |
| [22:35:00] | ballistic: | laga: I'll give that a try. Strange thing now is that I can't reproduce any blips like that w/ live TV after I turned on deinterlacing under Playback. However, previously recorded video w/ blips still has problems... |
| [22:36:00] | Jusk1: | mchou: yeh I know – I just like to have a snicker at the expense of early-adpoters |
| [22:36:00] | ballistic: | mchou: Yeah, my whole MythTV box is a bit excessive. ;-) |
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| [22:37:00] | mchou: | ballistic: what brand PSU you got? |
| [22:37:00] | ballistic: | mchou: Antec |
| [22:37:00] | mchou: | ballistic: and is it loud? |
| [22:37:00] | mchou: | ballistic: which antec? SP or NeoHE |
| [22:37:00] | Jasper^bed: | christ |
| [22:37:00] | Jasper^bed: | I recompiled the kernel now everything is f*cked |
| [22:38:00] | mchou: | Jasper^bed: then stop doing that then |
| [22:38:00] | awilkins_: | What were you trying to get working? |
| [22:38:00] | ballistic: | mchou: Hard to tell; my OEM CPU fan for my dual core Athlon is overpowering anything else in that box. |
| [22:38:00] | Jasper^bed: | mchou a bit too late .. |
| [22:38:00] | laga: | Jasper^bed: did you overwrite your old kernel? |
| [22:38:00] | ballistic: | mchou: The moron at Fry's sold me a heatsink that won't install on the mainboard he sold me. |
| [22:39:00] | Jasper^bed: | yea laga :P |
| [22:39:00] | Pitchin_uk: | Jusk1 – any tips with doing a channel scan – my luck seems to be up |
| [22:39:00] | mchou: | ballistic: huh?? the AMD OEM fan is dead quiet. |
| [22:39:00] | laga: | Jasper^bed: ha-ha. |
| [22:39:00] | awilkins_: | ballistic: Ouch. I had the stock fan on my Sempron for a while, but now I use a Zalman Flower |
| [22:39:00] | Jasper^bed: | :P |
| [22:39:00] | Jasper^bed: | not too funny |
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| [22:39:00] | Jasper: | I think this is gonna be a long night |
| [22:39:00] | Jasper: | :( |
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| [22:39:00] | Jusk1: | Pitchin_uk: there are some recent patches to help with DVB scanning |
| [22:39:00] | awilkins_: | Jasper: grub menu, 2 choices. Kernel. Kernel.bak. Peac of mind. |
| [22:39:00] | Pitchin_uk: | where can i find them |
| [22:39:00] | ballistic: | mchou: It's quite a bit louder than the fan I have on my workstation. Then again, I did crank up the case fans when I installed the Athlon X2. |
| [22:39:00] | scottder: | I use xine for video viewing...is there a reason it can't track around within a divx |
| [22:40:00] | Jusk1: | Pitchin_uk: search for DVB on the dev ML archive |
| [22:40:00] | Jasper: | omg |
| [22:40:00] | Jasper: | all my network devices stopped functioning laga :( |
| [22:41:00] | Pitchin_uk: | where can i find the dev ml archive |
| [22:41:00] | awilkins_: | Jasper: Wirelses? |
| [22:41:00] | mchou: | Jasper: then howcome you're still on irc? :) |
| [22:41:00] | Jasper: | laptop.. |
| [22:41:00] | Jasper: | both wireless and not-wireless awilkins_ |
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| [22:41:00] | Jasper: | fatal errors |
| [22:41:00] | Jasper: | all around |
| [22:41:00] | Jasper: | :(* |
| [22:42:00] | mchou: | ballistic: so what model antec psu you got? :) |
| [22:42:00] | awilkins_: | Jasper: Scrap the wireless. I found wireless such a giant arse. I just slapped on a standalone wireless bridge. Much easier. |
| [22:42:00] | Jasper: | I think this is because I removed the smp support |
| [22:42:00] | Jasper: | everything stopped working |
| [22:42:00] | Jasper: | christ |
| [22:42:00] | Jasper: | how am I gonna fix this |
| [22:42:00] | awilkins_: | Jasper: Shouldn't be a problem |
| [22:43:00] | Jasper: | I get failurs about nvidia, lirc, ivtv, wireless |
| [22:43:00] | Jasper: | 8( |
| [22:43:00] | mchou: | Jasper: never blow away the old kernel |
| [22:43:00] | awilkins_: | Did you make modules_install? |
| [22:43:00] | Jasper: | yeah awilkins_ |
| [22:43:00] | mchou: | not until you're really sure the new one REALLY works |
| [22:43:00] | laga: | nvidia, lirc, ivtv (and some wireless) will fail after recompiling the kernel since they need to be recompiled |
| [22:43:00] | awilkins_: | And keep your .config file in a subversion repository. |
| [22:43:00] | scottder: | Is it normal to be able to track around in an DivX encoded file? |
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| [22:44:00] | Jasper: | laga...problem is...after I recompiled nvidia |
| [22:44:00] | Jasper: | still nothing happends |
| [22:44:00] | Jasper: | :( |
| [22:44:00] | scottder: | to NOT be able to that is |
| [22:44:00] | awilkins_: | scottder: Yes, it's indexed AVI like anything else |
| [22:44:00] | mchou: | Jasper: laga is correct on that one |
| [22:44:00] | scottder: | Ok... |
| [22:44:00] | mchou: | Jasper: sound like you need to recompile some modules |
| [22:44:00] | scottder: | Oh well :) |
| [22:44:00] | laga: | awilkins_: i just copy my .config file to /boot/, named after the new kernel version |
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| [22:45:00] | Jasper: | this is gonna be a lonnngggg night |
| [22:45:00] | ballistic: | mchou: Sorry, I don't remember; I just picked it up on a whim and installed it |
| [22:45:00] | darkfrog: | how do I switch to using the internal DVD player for MythTV with 0.19? |
| [22:45:00] | mchou: | ballistic: ok, fair enough. |
| [22:46:00] | Pitchin_uk: | Jusk1 where can i find that archive |
| [22:46:00] | ** scottder won't ask what indexed AVI is :) ** | |
| [22:46:00] | ballistic: | laga: Thanks for your help |
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| [22:46:00] | Jusk1: | Pitchin_uk: you're kidding, right? |
| [22:46:00] | Pitchin_uk: | actually no |
| [22:47:00] | darkfrog: | I reading about the new internal DVD player but I can't figure out how to switch from Xine to using it instead... |
| [22:47:00] | Jusk1: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ |
| [22:47:00] | Jusk1: | darkfrog: utils/setup > settings > dvd > playback |
| [22:47:00] | Jusk1: | enter 'internal' (without the quotes) where mplayer is currently |
| [22:47:00] | Pitchin_uk: | cheers ive seen this but didnt know it uner that name |
| [22:48:00] | darkfrog: | Jusk1, awesome. :) Thanks! |
| [22:48:00] | mchou: | sigh.... |
| [22:48:00] | Jusk1: | getting a bloody forehead here again |
| [22:48:00] | ** Jusk1 needs more JD ** | |
| [22:48:00] | scottder: | Jusk1: I bang my head against the wall for the wonderful feeling I get when I stop |
| [22:49:00] | scottder: | :) |
| [22:50:00] | Jusk1: | lol |
| [22:51:00] | Shdwdrgn: | anyone gotten the svideo output to work on a Savage-IX card? I don't seem to be having much luck. Have read reports that it's been done with Myth, yet no info on HOW. |
| [22:55:00] | scottder: | http://www.botchco.com/alex/new-savage/html/ |
| [22:55:00] | scottder: | Google is thy friend :) |
| [22:56:00] | Shdwdrgn: | hasn't been *my* friend lately... thanks |
| [22:56:00] | Jasper: | It's a good thing I've installed/deleted all the shit so often |
| [22:56:00] | Jasper: | it helps me speed up after this major fuckup |
| [22:56:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [22:57:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [22:57:00] | scottder: | Shdwdrgn: it's XFree/Xorg that would handle the S-video output, not Myth |
| [22:58:00] | mchou: | Jasper: your mtbr (mean time between reboots) must be hours |
| [22:58:00] | mchou: | Jasper: if you screw up this often |
| [22:58:00] | Jasper: | :p |
| [22:58:00] | Jasper: | well |
| [22:58:00] | Jasper: | maybe I didn't screw up |
| [22:58:00] | Jasper: | it's just all the modules have to be rebuild |
| [22:58:00] | scottder: | I need to swap put my S-video cable...see if it's the reason my output is so dark... |
| [22:59:00] | Jusk1: | mchou: Jasper is a glutton for punishment – always messing |
| [22:59:00] | mchou: | scottder: nope, dont think it's the cable |
| [22:59:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [22:59:00] | Jasper: | you have to do something with your time |
| [22:59:00] | Jasper: | I think I found myself a job if I'm lucky |
| [22:59:00] | scottder: | mchou: why do you say that, just curious |
| [22:59:00] | mchou: | scottder: more likely your monitor/TV |
| [23:00:00] | scottder: | it's taking input from tivo fine.... |
| [23:00:00] | scottder: | and DVD player |
| [23:00:00] | mchou: | different alphas for different display devices |
| [23:00:00] | Shdwdrgn: | scottder: yeah I was aware of that... been tweaking xorg.conf all week. Found the option "TVon" which actually seems to do something... crt goes off anyway. I keep wondering if there's a problem with svideo on my receiver |
| [23:00:00] | mchou: | scottder: a computer expects a monitor, so it's alpha is geared for a monitor. |
| [23:01:00] | Jasper: | weee my network works again :P |
| [23:01:00] | mchou: | scottder: if you plug a regular tv to the computer expect it to be dark |
| [23:01:00] | scottder: | mchou: hmmm ok where would that be adjusted then? |
| [23:01:00] | Jasper: | or not.. |
| [23:01:00] | Jasper: | :( |
| [23:02:00] | mchou: | scottder: you can adjust it using HW or SW |
| [23:02:00] | darkfrog: | I switched to the internal DVD player and now it will play fine for a few minutes and then gets really choppy with both the video and sound...I can exit, come back to the same part and it will play just fine the second time around. |
| [23:02:00] | darkfrog: | Anyone else experienced this? |
| [23:03:00] | mchou: | scottder: HW should be in display driver settings. SW is X alpha settings |
| [23:03:00] | Jusk1: | Jasper: I hope TF you're better with aeroplanes than with Linux boxen |
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| [23:03:00] | Jasper: | :P Jusk1 I am |
| [23:03:00] | Jusk1: | (at least if I or my loved ones live under yer flightpath) ;-) |
| [23:04:00] | Jasper: | it's just so difficuly |
| [23:04:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [23:04:00] | Jasper: | mwah..that's overreacted..but stil.. |
| [23:04:00] | Jusk1: | flaps DOWN.. flaps down! |
| [23:04:00] | Jusk1: | lol |
| [23:04:00] | Jasper: | if I change the kernel I have to redo al my work.. |
| [23:04:00] | Jasper: | Jusk1 damn...you fly too? |
| [23:04:00] | Jasper: | 8) |
| [23:04:00] | mchou: | Jasper: flaps are for sissys :) |
| [23:04:00] | Jusk1: | only in my dreams... |
| [23:04:00] | Jasper: | you seem to know a lot aobut it |
| [23:04:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [23:05:00] | Jasper: | mchou I wanna see you put a 747 down without flaps |
| [23:05:00] | Jasper: | be my guest |
| [23:05:00] | Jusk1: | what was it.. zx81(timex 100) flight sim |
| [23:05:00] | Jasper: | slats are the bomb |
| [23:05:00] | Jasper: | :P |
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| [23:05:00] | mchou: | Jasper: ok, maybe for big birds. |
| [23:05:00] | mchou: | not for lil ones |
| [23:06:00] | Jasper: | mchou what kind are we talking about then? |
| [23:06:00] | mchou: | F-16 |
| [23:06:00] | Jasper: | piper archer? |
| [23:07:00] | briand: | Jasper: a J-38. ;) |
| [23:07:00] | mchou: | lil birds are much more fun to fly that 747s |
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| [23:07:00] | mchou: | than* |
| [23:08:00] | Jasper: | depends.. |
| [23:08:00] | Jasper: | what you do it for.. |
| [23:08:00] | mchou: | aerobatics, of course |
| [23:08:00] | Jasper: | little birds don't experience the major laggggg |
| [23:08:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [23:08:00] | briand: | i don't want to be in the 747 that the pilot's doing aerobatics in... |
| [23:08:00] | Jusk1: | lol no |
| [23:09:00] | mchou: | briand: sure you do. it's fun in 0 g |
| [23:09:00] | Jasper: | lining a 747 up with the runway is a real tough game |
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| [23:09:00] | briand: | although i _have_ been in an Orion P3 on a few occasions... flying into the belly of the beast, so to speak. |
| [23:09:00] | mchou: | briand: 0g on 747 is great |
| [23:09:00] | briand: | (hurricane hunter aircraft) |
| [23:10:00] | Jasper: | briand howcome you got to fly in them? |
| [23:10:00] | scottder: | mchou: ok is there a general setting for Alpha in xorg...I'm not finding any info on it |
| [23:10:00] | briand: | Jasper: i used to work for state of FL Emergency Management. I was an "observer" on a few flights. They did let me drop a few radiosondes... |
| [23:11:00] | Jasper: | :p |
| [23:11:00] | Jasper: | najs |
| [23:11:00] | Jasper: | that's cool |
| [23:11:00] | Jasper: | FL = florida? |
| [23:11:00] | briand: | i had a blast |
| [23:11:00] | Jasper: | or am I messing up here? |
| [23:11:00] | briand: | yes. florida. Now I work for the Dept. of Health... a little more mundane work, but the hours are more regular and the pay is better. |
| [23:12:00] | Jasper: | you live there briand ? |
| [23:12:00] | ** briand is in Tallahassee, FL ** | |
| [23:12:00] | Jasper: | ah |
| [23:12:00] | Jasper: | I was in florida |
| [23:12:00] | Jasper: | like 1 year ago |
| [23:12:00] | Jasper: | for like 5 months |
| [23:12:00] | mchou: | briand: were you there when Andrew hit? |
| [23:12:00] | Jasper: | ft. pierce |
| [23:12:00] | Jasper: | during the hurricanes I got send back here |
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| [23:13:00] | mchou: | briand: I just finished reading "Against All Enemies" |
| [23:13:00] | briand: | mchou: i moved here in '95... so no. ..but I was here when Bonnie, Charley, Frances, Ivan, Jeanne, Wilma, Katrina, etc... |
| [23:13:00] | feld: | hey guys i had a problem magically appear in the last couple days |
| [23:13:00] | feld: | all my recordings are screwed up |
| [23:13:00] | feld: | mythtv views them as being hours long |
| [23:13:00] | feld: | but they're only an hour or a half an hour |
| [23:13:00] | briand: | Jasper: sent to ft. pierce for what? |
| [23:13:00] | Jasper: | flying |
| [23:13:00] | mchou: | briand: the FEMA/DHS screwup in Katrina was PREDICTED |
| [23:14:00] | Jasper: | Pan Am Flight Academy |
| [23:14:00] | feld: | and so i can't skip thru the recorded show without it locking up |
| [23:14:00] | feld: | though mplayer plays the files just fine :( |
| [23:14:00] | feld: | what could possibly be wrong? |
| [23:14:00] | Jasper: | I hated it briand |
| [23:14:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [23:14:00] | briand: | mchou: actually, truth be known, it wasn't a FEMA/DHS screwup so much as it was a HUGE lack of planning on the part of the Governor of Louisiana and the Mayor of New Orleans. |
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| [23:15:00] | mchou: | briand: bah. They well all responsible |
| [23:15:00] | mchou: | were* |
| [23:15:00] | Jasper: | ft pierce is like the biggest ghetto of the USA? |
| [23:15:00] | Chutt: | no political crap in here, please. |
| [23:15:00] | Jasper: | it's fun driving through martin luther king street on that day |
| [23:15:00] | Jasper: | I can assure you that |
| [23:15:00] | briand: | mchou: it is not now, nor has it *ever* been the role of FEMA to be primary on disaster preparedness & response... that goes to the municipality, county gov't, state gov't.. -then- to federal. |
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| [23:16:00] | briand: | sorry, Chutt. :) |
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| [23:16:00] | Jasper: | I did like the malls though briand |
| [23:16:00] | briand: | Jasper: ;) there's an MLK in every city/town/hamlet in the south, I think. |
| [23:16:00] | briand: | ...and they're, for the most part, the same. |
| [23:16:00] | mchou: | I havent been to a MLK street that I felt safe :) |
| [23:16:00] | Jasper: | it's fun on martin luther king day.. |
| [23:17:00] | briand: | 'zackly. |
| [23:17:00] | Jasper: | that's for sure.. |
| [23:17:00] | Jasper: | :) |
| [23:17:00] | briand: | so, Jasper where are you located? |
| [23:17:00] | Jasper: | right now? |
| [23:17:00] | scottder: | mchou: where in xorg conf is "alpha" handled? |
| [23:18:00] | briand: | well, yeah.. or where do you call 'home' |
| [23:18:00] | Jasper: | Netherlands |
| [23:18:00] | briand: | cool |
| [23:18:00] | scaaven: | sorry to chime in =\ I have a problem with my mythtv. If I go to the front of the live tv buffer, it flickers black every couple of seconds or so. I checked mythfrontend and it's saying it's rebuffering alot. dmesg is spammed with ivtv0 warning: prep_user_dma: SG_length 161 page_count 161 still full? |
| [23:18:00] | scaaven: | ivtv0-osd warning: ivtvfb_prep_dec_dma_to_device, Error with get_user_pages: 1376256 bytes, 161 pages returned |
| [23:18:00] | scaaven: | ivtv0-osd warning: Error: prep osd dma to device rc=-5 |
| [23:18:00] | scaaven: | ivtv0-osd warning: DMA xfer from b4fe2000 of 1376256 bytes failed with (-5) offset = 0x0, total 1376256 |
| [23:18:00] | Jasper: | hmm, I unmerged nvidia...but It still tries to load it at boot...how can I fix that |
| [23:19:00] | briand: | Jasper: initrd? |
| [23:20:00] | Jasper: | briand in my experience fl should be the sunshine state..but it really wasn't |
| [23:20:00] | Jasper: | it's so amazingly windy out there |
| [23:20:00] | briand: | Jasper: well, not with the past couple year's worth of hurricane seasons, no... |
| [23:20:00] | mchou: | Jasper: what the hell are you talking about? FL gets more rain than seattle |
| [23:20:00] | mchou: | even w/o hurricanes |
| [23:20:00] | Jasper: | yeah...but still it's called the sunshine state |
| [23:21:00] | briand: | dunno about that... fewer rain *days* than seattle, to be sure... but maybe larger quantity |
| [23:21:00] | mchou: | briand: exactly |
| [23:21:00] | mchou: | larger quantity |
| [23:21:00] | Jasper: | after florida I moved to spain.. |
| [23:21:00] | Jasper: | the weather there was soo good |
| [23:21:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [23:22:00] | Jasper: | still it was fun in FL...flying from ft.pierce to vero beach...orlanda, napels, okechobee |
| [23:22:00] | Jasper: | had a great time |
| [23:22:00] | briand: | well, i moved here from upstate New York. the precipitation doesn't bother me like it did up there... where you had to shovel it, more often than not.. |
| [23:22:00] | mchou: | I haven't been in FL where a thunderstorm didnt break out every afternoon during the summer. |
| [23:22:00] | Jasper: | initrd briand ? |
| [23:22:00] | briand: | mchou: the same is probably true for any other similarly sized peninsular tract of land in the tropics. |
| [23:23:00] | mchou: | why would anyone in their right mind want to live in FL is beyond me :) |
| [23:23:00] | briand: | Jasper: do you have an initrd? if so, you may need to run mkinitrd to rebuild it |
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| [23:23:00] | scaaven: | is it trying to write to the disk faster than it can take it? |
| [23:23:00] | Jasper: | where would I find it briand? |
| [23:23:00] | Jasper: | It complains about a module being incorrect...while I unmerged nvidia |
| [23:23:00] | briand: | i dunno your distro, Jasper... i'm familiar with Fedora |
| [23:24:00] | briand: | it shouldn't destroy anything to just run `mkinitrd` regardless... |
| [23:24:00] | scaaven: | anyone have experience with: Feb 25 15:44:52 localhost kernel: ivtv0-osd warning: DMA xfer from b4fe2000 of 1376256 bytes failed with (-5) offset = 0x0, total 1376256 |
| [23:24:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
| [23:24:00] | Jasper: | the module is still on the machine |
| [23:24:00] | Jasper: | weird stuff |
| [23:26:00] | Jasper: | I got wireless running again...and ivtv... |
| [23:26:00] | Jasper: | only the nvidia stuff left |
| [23:27:00] | bitsko: | all of my scheduled recordings seemed to have disappeared. I thought this happened after an update (Debian unstable), but then I re-scheduled some recordings and now nothing is showing for them. Is there a way to check the db for what it knows? |
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| [23:28:00] | laga: | bitsko: i had a problem like that once, there is an option for mythbackend that'll force a re-scheduling. it's also possibble that your mysql DB is broken :/ |
| [23:29:00] | bitsko: | is there a way to check/audit the db to make sure it's sane? |
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| [23:30:00] | Jasper: | briand you ever been to europe? |
| [23:30:00] | briand: | no, sir... would like to, one day, though |
| [23:30:00] | laga: | bitsko: mysqlcheck? i always use phpmyadmin for stuff like this. check the mysqld logs as well |
| [23:30:00] | Jasper: | you should...it's really different from america in my opinion |
| [23:31:00] | laga: | it better is. |
| [23:31:00] | Jasper: | both have their advantages/disadvantagess |
| [23:31:00] | briand: | agreed |
| [23:31:00] | Jasper: | I mean |
| [23:31:00] | ** Jusk1 checks his GAIM settings. channel has gone all blurry ** | |
| [23:31:00] | Jasper: | USA have subways |
| [23:31:00] | Jasper: | that's really good |
| [23:31:00] | Jasper: | :) |
| [23:31:00] | ** laga checks the JD settings ** | |
| [23:31:00] | briand: | i think it'd be neat to see a stage of the TdF in person... to see some scottish castles... etc |
| [23:31:00] | feld: | once again: |
| [23:31:00] | laga: | Jasper: you mean, the sandwich restaurants? |
| [23:32:00] | Jasper: | yeah laga |
| [23:32:00] | Jasper: | you have them in europe too....but still it's much better/cheaper in the USA |
| [23:32:00] | laga: | Jasper: we have them in europe as well :) |
| [23:32:00] | Jasper: | it's amazing how expensive fresh food is in the USA |
| [23:32:00] | feld: | all my recordings are screwed up. they show they are HOURS long but they are only really like a half hour or an hour. This causes a lockup whevenver you want to skip through the show. 0.19 is my current version. These files play FINE in mplayer. What could be wrong? |
| [23:32:00] | Jasper: | like herbs and stuff.. |
| [23:34:00] | briand: | something could be broken. |
| [23:35:00] | Jasper: | weee |
| [23:35:00] | Jasper: | I got everything up and running agin |
| [23:35:00] | Jasper: | :P |
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| [23:36:00] | Jasper: | it wasn't that bad apparently |
| [23:37:00] | laga: | Jasper: heh. cheap lesson ;) |
| [23:37:00] | Jasper: | laga I think it were only the modules indeed |
| [23:37:00] | djohnson: | Jasper did you have any sound issues with ivtv? I can't get sound out of my card |
| [23:38:00] | Jasper: | no djohnson |
| [23:38:00] | Jasper: | how did you install? |
| [23:38:00] | djohnson: | make |
| [23:38:00] | Jasper: | what driver |
| [23:38:00] | djohnson: | I followed the instructions on ivtvdriver.org |
| [23:38:00] | Jasper: | I will help someone else for once instead :P |
| [23:38:00] | djohnson: | 0.4.3 |
| [23:38:00] | Jasper: | djohnson |
| [23:38:00] | Jasper: | go to your dir |
| [23:38:00] | Jasper: | we'll do it step by step ok? |
| [23:38:00] | djohnson: | OK dokee |
| [23:39:00] | djohnson: | I have video, and can cat /dev/video0 > foo.mpg, just no sound |
| [23:39:00] | Jasper: | so go to the ivtv-0.4xxx dir and subdir driver |
| [23:39:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
| [23:39:00] | djohnson: | check |
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| [23:39:00] | Jasper: | did you install the firmware ? |
| [23:39:00] | djohnson: | Yup, via instructions |
| [23:39:00] | Jasper: | how did you name them? |
| [23:40:00] | djohnson: | but I think that might have something to do with it... ivtvctl -a says that I don't have an ivtv driver device |
| [23:40:00] | Jasper: | k |
| [23:40:00] | djohnson: | Ummm... it is named (checking) |
| [23:40:00] | Jasper: | then let's do it just from scratch |
| [23:40:00] | djohnson: | Sure thing, never hurts |
| [23:40:00] | scaaven: | my ivtv0-osd warning: DMA xfer problem is solved. I was doing modprobe ivtv twice on startup and that somehow was screwing stuff up |
| [23:40:00] | djohnson: | Should I do a "make clean" ? |
| [23:41:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
| [23:41:00] | Jasper: | don't think so |
| [23:41:00] | Jasper: | just make && make install |
| [23:41:00] | djohnson: | OK, from the driver subdir? |
| [23:41:00] | Jasper: | yes sir |
| [23:42:00] | djohnson: | OK, hold on, I'll download all the source over again |
| [23:42:00] | Jasper: | k |
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| [23:43:00] | djohnson: | drat... I'm getting a new problem :( |
| [23:43:00] | djohnson: | created ivtv-svnversion.h |
| [23:43:00] | djohnson: | make -C /lib/modules/2.6.13-15-default/build M=/data/ivtv-0.4.3/driver modules |
| [23:43:00] | djohnson: | make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.13-15-obj/i386/default' |
| [23:44:00] | Jasper: | ? |
| [23:44:00] | djohnson: | make[2]: *** No rule to make target `modules'. Stop. |
| [23:44:00] | Jasper: | what's the error ? |
| [23:44:00] | Jasper: | ah |
| [23:44:00] | Jasper: | you just did the make? |
| [23:44:00] | Jasper: | in the driver dir? |
| [23:45:00] | djohnson: | yup |
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| [23:46:00] | djohnson: | which is strange, as it didn't give that message last time I did the make && make install |
| [23:46:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
| [23:46:00] | Jasper: | linux-2.6.13-15-obj <-- do you have that dir? |
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| [23:47:00] | djohnson: | under /lib/modules? |
| [23:47:00] | djohnson: | ah, usr/src |
| [23:47:00] | Jasper: | ./usr/src/linux-2.6.13-15-obj/i386/default' |
| [23:47:00] | djohnson: | yes |
| [23:48:00] | Jasper: | laga still here? |
| [23:48:00] | Jasper: | :P: |
| [23:48:00] | djohnson: | there is only one file in there called Module.symvers |
| [23:48:00] | Jasper: | I dunno this error djohnson |
| [23:48:00] | laga: | barely awake |
| [23:48:00] | djohnson: | It's OK |
| [23:48:00] | Jasper: | I'm too inexperience d for that |
| [23:48:00] | djohnson: | Thanks for trying Jasper |
| [23:48:00] | Jasper: | well if you get past the make I can help you I think but.. |
| [23:48:00] | Jasper: | laga did you see his error ? |
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| [23:49:00] | laga: | umm |
| [23:49:00] | laga: | umm |
| [23:50:00] | laga: | is /usr/src/linux-2.6.13-15-obj a valid kernel tree with all compiled stuff? |
| [23:50:00] | djohnson: | I have no idea.... maybe |
| [23:50:00] | djohnson: | It's what I get if I do a uname -r |
| [23:50:00] | laga: | if not, copy the correct config from /boot/ to /usr/src/linux-2.6.13-15-obj/.config and perform a 'make' |
| [23:51:00] | meushi: | good night |
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| [23:52:00] | RaYmAn-Bx: | anyone have any ideas how to get rid of "i2c client addr: 0xXY not found for command 0xXXXXXXX" warnings when doing just about anything with a Hauppauge PVR-500-MCE card with 0.4.3 ivtv drivers? (gentoo) |
| [23:52:00] | djohnson: | Laga, there's a file in /boot called config-2.6.13-15-..... can I just copy that to /usr/src/linux--2.6.13-15-obj/.config |
| [23:52:00] | djohnson: | ? |
| [23:52:00] | laga: | djohnson: should work! |
| [23:53:00] | djohnson: | Doesn't seem to like it... still says "No rule to make target 'modules'" |
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| [23:53:00] | Jasper: | 1 |
| [23:54:00] | sona: | make menuconfig |
| [23:54:00] | sona: | jsut exit |
| [23:54:00] | djohnson: | laga could it be an update problem? |
| [23:54:00] | djohnson: | sona, do you mean I should recompile my kernel? |
| [23:55:00] | Jasper: | hmm this is not cool..I have a remote control which sends signals by itself |
| [23:55:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [23:55:00] | djohnson: | Between this, and a faulty LVM I'll have a working setup ;) |
| [23:55:00] | laga: | djohnson: you need to perfor a 'make' afterwards, imho |
| [23:56:00] | djohnson: | as in make in the kernel directory, or make in the ivtvdriver directory? |
| [23:56:00] | laga: | kernel |
| [23:57:00] | djohnson: | Ah |
| [23:57:00] | djohnson: | Uh oo! |
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| [23:58:00] | djohnson: | OK, first I'll get my system fully up to date |
| [23:59:00] | djohnson: | laga thanks, there's a kernel update, so I'm going to apply that and see if I can do a make from there |
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