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| [00:01:00] | drdaz: | yeah I guess.. I tried running a yum update just now, but nothing is marked for update |
| [00:01:00] | drdaz: | so.. |
| [00:01:00] | ** drdaz shrugs ** | |
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| [00:01:00] | dtm: | does anyone here use pvrusb2 with mythtv? i cna't get mythtv 0.18.1 to properly change the bitrate. |
| [00:02:00] | flithm: | hey all... anyone having problems with 0.19 and livetv? specifically when the program you're currently watching ends? my mythfrontend just hung up and is eating 100% cpu |
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| [00:02:00] | nasa: | Is the frontend eating 100% or X? |
| [00:03:00] | nuonguy: | drdaz: What could be different about my install ? |
| [00:03:00] | flithm: | let me check |
| [00:03:00] | flithm: | it's mythfrontend... X is eating like 3% |
| [00:03:00] | drdaz: | nuonguy: I really dont know.. what did Axel say? |
| [00:03:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah flithm a fair few people are having that problem, check the mailing lists |
| [00:04:00] | nasa: | flithm: just seeing if it was similar to a prob I am having. Mines is the other way around. |
| [00:04:00] | flithm: | I was able to escape out of the hang |
| [00:04:00] | flithm: | and the frontend appears to be fine now |
| [00:05:00] | flithm: | it seems to have saved the recording okay too |
| [00:05:00] | flithm: | hrmf |
| [00:05:00] | nuonguy: | drdaz: He wanted to know whether I was hand picking packages or whether I'd built (parts of) myth myself, neither of which is true |
| [00:05:00] | drdaz: | ok |
| [00:05:00] | drdaz: | it is very very odd.. |
| [00:05:00] | flithm: | nasa, too bad about 0.19... it's seems to much more stable in every other way... |
| [00:06:00] | nasa: | flithm: I can't say — within a couple of minutes of switching between different options, I have X at 99% cpu usage and the frontend is frozen. |
| [00:07:00] | drdaz: | you might want to try yum removing the offending binaries |
| [00:07:00] | drdaz: | and installing again from only atrpms |
| [00:08:00] | nuonguy: | I thought that's what I'd done |
| [00:08:00] | nuonguy: | with --disablerepo=... |
| [00:08:00] | flithm: | nasa, hmmm... that's no good... did you try compiling without opengl? it seems to have helped for me |
| [00:08:00] | drdaz: | yes but... did u remove the 'wrong' binaries first? |
| [00:08:00] | drdaz: | something went wrong somewhere... there is a version mismatch |
| [00:09:00] | drdaz: | you need to remove the ones that dont correspond to the atrpms release |
| [00:09:00] | drdaz: | and reinstall them |
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| [00:09:00] | nasa: | flithm: without opengl... No had not tried that |
| [00:10:00] | flithm: | nasa, do you have an nvidia card and 8000+ series driver? |
| [00:10:00] | nasa: | flitm: no, I have an old ati 8500DV |
| [00:10:00] | flithm: | nasa, hrmm... maybe that won't matter for you then. I know there's some problems with nvidia cards, the latest driver, and opengl in mythfrontend |
| [00:10:00] | nuonguy: | Check it out: remove everything then install only the bare minimum: http://pastebin.com/563557 |
| [00:11:00] | drdaz: | nuonguy: http://pastebin.com/563559 |
| [00:11:00] | nasa: | flithm: yeah, I think I heard something about that |
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| [00:12:00] | drdaz: | actually... I havent tried running mythtv-setup since upgrading |
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| [00:13:00] | drdaz: | just did... didnt get the error |
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| [00:15:00] | drdaz: | nuonguy: yum install libmyth |
| [00:15:00] | drdaz: | not sure it'll do anything, but.. |
| [00:15:00] | nuonguy: | drdaz: same thing |
| [00:15:00] | nuonguy: | drdaz: I notice that you have .19–118 and .19–120 mixed freely |
| [00:15:00] | drdaz: | :-| |
| [00:15:00] | drdaz: | yes |
| [00:16:00] | drdaz: | but |
| [00:16:00] | drdaz: | libmyth-0.19–120.rhfc4.at |
| [00:16:00] | drdaz: | you dont have that I presume? |
| [00:16:00] | danielscott: | Question: I've switched to a theme that doesn't have a 'Settings' section. Anybody know how can I change the theme back? |
| [00:17:00] | drdaz: | rtfm |
| [00:17:00] | nuonguy: | daneilscott: It's been discussed a few times before: You'll have to manually edit the mysql tables |
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| [00:18:00] | jams: | danielscott- using minimalist? |
| [00:18:00] | danielscott: | jams: yes |
| [00:18:00] | jams: | or midnight? if so then go back to the main menu and press pgup or pgdown |
| [00:18:00] | jams: | you should then see the rest of the menu |
| [00:19:00] | drdaz: | nuonguy: which version of libmyth have you got? |
| [00:19:00] | jams: | those horizontal themes are not really made for more then 6 items on a single menu screen |
| [00:20:00] | danielscott: | jams: it's magic! I wasn't able to find anything to this effect in the docs. thank you! |
| [00:21:00] | jams: | sure lot easy then editing the sql tables |
| [00:21:00] | danielscott: | jams: indeed, espec. because i'm uber-nubie. |
| [00:22:00] | drdaz: | nuonguy? |
| [00:22:00] | drdaz: | I'm on my way to bed here.. |
| [00:23:00] | squish102: | any1 have a myth 0.19 and a working mythburn? |
| [00:23:00] | nuonguy: | drdaz: lemme look |
| [00:23:00] | drdaz: | kk |
| [00:23:00] | danielscott: | jams: you saved the day. peace |
| [00:23:00] | nuonguy: | (I was replying to an email message from Axel...) |
| [00:23:00] | drdaz: | np |
| [00:24:00] | squish102: | my menu has green icons instead of the pick |
| [00:24:00] | nuonguy: | drdaz: 120.rhfc4.at |
| [00:24:00] | drdaz: | :-| |
| [00:24:00] | drdaz: | well there goes that idea |
| [00:24:00] | nuonguy: | Build Date: Sun 12 Feb 2006 10:29:51 PM PST |
| [00:25:00] | nuonguy: | What time zone are you in? |
| [00:25:00] | drdaz: | well... Denmark |
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| [00:25:00] | nuonguy: | ah |
| [00:25:00] | nuonguy: | The only Danish word I know is blumsta |
| [00:25:00] | drdaz: | its 1:25 AM :-/ |
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| [00:26:00] | drdaz: | flowers? |
| [00:26:00] | nuonguy: | yup |
| [00:26:00] | drdaz: | blomster :) |
| [00:26:00] | nuonguy: | thx |
| [00:26:00] | drdaz: | np |
| [00:26:00] | drdaz: | really need to hit the fart sack |
| [00:26:00] | drdaz: | l8r all |
| [00:26:00] | nuonguy: | nite' |
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| [00:33:00] | scopeuk: | ok now im rearly ahcekd off jsut configureing samaa isent working |
| [00:33:00] | scopeuk: | and im even using webmin for this |
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| [00:49:00] | xpis: | Is there any way while a recording is in progress to make a program end a few seconds early/late? |
| [00:50:00] | xpis: | (I want to make sure a recording starting at 9:00 starts on time, not a few seconds late) |
| [00:50:00] | xpis: | (and another recording I don't care about ends at 9:00) |
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| [00:56:00] | sphing_: | xpis one of the new features in .19 is the ability to change ending times while its recording |
| [00:56:00] | sphing_: | never done, since its a new feature so I'm not sur ehow |
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| [01:11:00] | gremlin484: | hellp |
| [01:11:00] | gremlin484: | or hello, whichever you prefer |
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| [01:11:00] | gremlin484: | i'm having a small problem with a mythtv install, was wondering if someone could help me out? |
| [01:12:00] | sphing: | ... just ask |
| [01:13:00] | gremlin484: | it seems as though my channels are 1 off... channel 1 shows "unknown", then when I channel up to 2, it displays the information that 1 is supposed to have... |
| [01:14:00] | gremlin484: | all of the channels seem to follow suit |
| [01:14:00] | gremlin484: | my zap2it settings appear to be correct |
| [01:15:00] | gremlin484: | i've been looking for something for like the past 2 hours, and have come up with nothing. |
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| [01:19:00] | gremlin484: | anyone? |
| [01:19:00] | Ukyo[MegaTokyo]: | hey guys |
| [01:19:00] | WeezeyD: | how do I do an rmmod on a module that's in use? |
| [01:20:00] | Agrajag-: | find out what's using it and rmmod that too? |
| [01:21:00] | sphing: | WeezeyD: i think it depends on if your kernel has force module unloading |
| [01:21:00] | WeezeyD: | ivtv is in use by ivtv_fb and ivtv_fb is just in use. |
| [01:21:00] | Ukyo[MegaTokyo]: | anyone here know a way to get HDTV Food network on a coax output for use on the box? Every where I look they use set top boxes that only outputs component, hdmi, etc.. they wont allow passthrough |
| [01:21:00] | psofa: | gremlin484, i dont even know what you are talking about but there is a question like that in the troubleshooting docs in myths site |
| [01:21:00] | WeezeyD: | I think I need to stop it to change the volume settings on the card. |
| [01:21:00] | psofa: | gremlin484, it says channels are off by one |
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| [01:23:00] | sphing: | anyone using an xbox? |
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| [01:24:00] | quink: | any of you know how to reset mythtv to a default theme? |
| [01:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | There is no "reset theme" option |
| [01:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | you have 2 ways to do it, edit the sql database manually |
| [01:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | or go into your themes directory and rename another theme to have the same name as the one you picked |
| [01:29:00] | Juski: | quink: or use the page down key to make the setup menu option magically re-appear |
| [01:31:00] | quink: | Juski: hey you the guy who does project grayhem? |
| [01:31:00] | Ukyo[MegaTokyo]: | hey guys, right now I am using mce, looking at redoing the box into mythtv |
| [01:31:00] | Ukyo[MegaTokyo]: | got some q's :P |
| [01:31:00] | Juski: | btw GreyFoxx: saw that weird vid. preview issue in 0.19 on my minimyth – doesn't happen in grayhem though |
| [01:31:00] | Juski: | quink: yeah |
| [01:31:00] | quink: | cool. i just bookmarked your page |
| [01:31:00] | quink: | weird preview problem? is that the moire pattern that hte previews are showing or somethign else? |
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| [01:32:00] | Juski: | looks worse than a moire pattern |
| [01:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | This :http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/preview.jpg |
| [01:32:00] | quink: | well best way to explain it |
| [01:32:00] | Juski: | more like greyscale video & the chroma isn't being scaled right |
| [01:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | the colour bleed issue |
| [01:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah |
| [01:32:00] | Juski: | that's the one |
| [01:32:00] | quink: | yeah. |
| [01:32:00] | quink: | mine looks like moire |
| [01:32:00] | quink: | i think |
| [01:32:00] | quink: | i didn't ponder too hard. |
| [01:32:00] | scopeuk: | any one know how to make samba work properly |
| [01:33:00] | scopeuk: | either im too tired or its soem hwo serious ly screwed up |
| [01:33:00] | Juski: | I was chuffed my theme doesn't have the problem but puzzled at the same time |
| [01:33:00] | quink: | my main thing right now is figure out how to make things look right on a widescreen tv |
| [01:33:00] | Ukyo[MegaTokyo]: | on MCE, it's realyl crappy. only records in mpeg2 (horribly huge files) |
| [01:33:00] | quink: | my way sorta works but i doubt its the right way. cause i run into problems at times. |
| [01:33:00] | Juski: | quink: use a widescreen theme |
| [01:33:00] | quink: | heh. |
| [01:33:00] | quink: | well i mean in the x.conf file and whatnot |
| [01:34:00] | quink: | and when i play a widescreen dvd in xine to make it fill the screen fully. |
| [01:34:00] | Juski: | www.juski.co.uk/xorg.conf – look for the DISPLAYSIZE lines |
| [01:34:00] | Ukyo[MegaTokyo]: | but it stores recording show and recording info in meta tags. episode name/ description etc.. does myth have a way of doing this? and i take it myth lets you choose what codec to use ? |
| [01:34:00] | Juski: | Ukyo: myth does a bit more than that |
| [01:35:00] | Juski: | read the documentation on www.mythtv.org |
| [01:35:00] | Ukyo[MegaTokyo]: | am doing so atm |
| [01:35:00] | Ukyo[MegaTokyo]: | myth seems to seriously tower over mce |
| [01:35:00] | Ukyo[MegaTokyo]: | but from what everyone says, its a royal pita to setup |
| [01:35:00] | Juski: | hmmm indeed. that's no accident |
| [01:35:00] | Ukyo[MegaTokyo]: | esp. with my tuner |
| [01:35:00] | Juski: | it _can_ be a pain to setup |
| [01:35:00] | quink: | Juski: i saw a lot about display size, but i don't quite get how that works in conjunction with other resoultions? |
| [01:35:00] | Anduin: | Ukyo[MegaTokyo] – If you have an MCE compatible cards the mpeg2 is probably coming from the hardware. |
| [01:36:00] | WeezeyD: | on my PVR-350, the ivtvctl -Y shows Volume: 0 |
| [01:36:00] | Ukyo[MegaTokyo]: | Anduin: thats part of my current problem |
| [01:36:00] | WeezeyD: | as far as I can figure, that's why I don't have incoming volume |
| [01:36:00] | Ukyo[MegaTokyo]: | i have the hdtv wonder. no onboard mpeg2 decoder |
| [01:36:00] | Juski: | quink: pal or ntsc TV should be 720x576 or 720x480 respectively.. or the native res of your LCD/plasma TV |
| [01:36:00] | Ukyo[MegaTokyo]: | had to jump through hoops to make it work |
| [01:36:00] | Anduin: | Ukyo[MegaTokyo] – It will be the same in myth |
| [01:36:00] | Ukyo[MegaTokyo]: | another hook to make the drivers see it as 2 tuners |
| [01:36:00] | quink: | http://optimusprimal.com/~quink/xorg.conf thats my config file at the moment |
| [01:37:00] | quink: | ntsc |
| [01:37:00] | Ukyo[MegaTokyo]: | i am told if i put an additional AIW TV unit with mpeg2 decoder, it can share it. |
| [01:37:00] | quink: | what i did was a lot of Option "TVVSizeAdj" "43" to make it stretch and fit |
| [01:37:00] | quink: | which i doubt is right |
| [01:37:00] | Juski: | ATI devices, particularly recent tuners aren't well supported by linux |
| [01:37:00] | quink: | its a 9200se |
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| [01:38:00] | Ukyo[MegaTokyo]: | hmm |
| [01:38:00] | quink: | what is the suggested video card, for ease? |
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| [01:38:00] | WeezeyD: | but when I do: ivtvctl --set-ctrl=volume=58950 nothing happens |
| [01:40:00] | briand: | WeezeyD: try `ivtvctl -y volume=58950 -d /dev/video0` |
| [01:40:00] | mofu: | looking for Ubuntu/Debian users using XvMC . . . . |
| [01:40:00] | briand: | ...assuming your PVR-350 is on /dev/video0 |
| [01:40:00] | briand: | is it your only card? |
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| [01:41:00] | danielscott: | anybody know where i can get a frontend for OSX? |
| [01:42:00] | quink: | Juski: why does your monitor section have two display sizes and how does it know which to use for what? |
| [01:42:00] | Juski: | one set is commented out |
| [01:42:00] | quink: | oh duh |
| [01:42:00] | quink: | i missed that. |
| [01:43:00] | quink: | i guess i'll comment out my tv-out ajdustments, throw in display size and see how it goes |
| [01:43:00] | quink: | what type of tv do you use? |
| [01:44:00] | Juski: | panasonic 32" wide, flat TX32PK1 |
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| [01:45:00] | Juski: | had it for 4 years now & still happy with it |
| [01:45:00] | quink: | tube screen? |
| [01:46:00] | Juski: | yeh.. hell a plasma from 4 years ago would be dead by now lol |
| [01:46:00] | quink: | heh |
| [01:46:00] | quink: | could have been projection |
| [01:47:00] | briand: | Juski: nice... I just upgraded my Zenith 27" stereo to a Sharp 32" flat-screen stereo. |
| [01:47:00] | Juski: | projectors didn't get a look in back then – they're much better now though |
| [01:47:00] | quink: | for the displaysize option, does it matter what numbers you use as long as they follow 16:9? |
| [01:48:00] | Juski: | just use them numbers.. it all works out |
| [01:48:00] | quink: | k |
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| [01:50:00] | briand: | does anybody happen to know exactly which settings (vbi mode, vbi passthru, vbi embed, etc) I need to set in ivtvctl to get closed captions to work in Myth 0.19 ? |
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| [01:51:00] | sphing: | anyone notice that .19 a little more cpu intensive than .18.1? |
| [01:51:00] | Juski: | briand, AFAIK it'll only work with PVR250 / 350 |
| [01:51:00] | scopeuk: | ok i broke my box enough for one night l8r guys |
| [01:51:00] | briand: | Juski: yes... this is for my PVR-350. |
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| [01:52:00] | briand: | sphing: umm.. currently recording two shows simultaneously. CPU usage: 0.5% |
| [01:52:00] | briand: | oops.. just jumped up to 0.7% |
| [01:52:00] | sphing: | ... if you're using a hardware encoder that stat means nothin |
| [01:53:00] | briand: | actually, I believe it means I'm currently using between 0.5 and 0.7 % cpu |
| [01:54:00] | quink: | does hdtv look acceptable over composite out? |
| [01:54:00] | sphing: | ok briand |
| [01:55:00] | briand: | sphing: ...but, yes.. I have hardware encoding/decoding on my MythTV box. |
| [01:55:00] | DreadPirateBob: | quink: No |
| [01:55:00] | quink: | DreadPirateBob: its that bad? |
| [01:55:00] | briand: | sphing: do you think 0.19 has a bit more overhead for software decoding? |
| [01:55:00] | DreadPirateBob: | composite can't do that kind of resolution |
| [01:55:00] | sphing: | i'm running it on an xbox |
| [01:55:00] | sphing: | and its choppy... which is why i'm asking |
| [01:55:00] | quink: | so how do you conect hd to tv? |
| [01:56:00] | DreadPirateBob: | best you'll get out of composite, or even s-video is 800x600 |
| [01:56:00] | coochan: | briand: let meknow if you find out about CC |
| [01:56:00] | braniff: | software encoding sucks |
| [01:56:00] | danielscott: | quink: you'll need to use component, or hdmi |
| [01:56:00] | DreadPirateBob: | quink: Through dvi, svideo, hdmi, or component. |
| [01:56:00] | danielscott: | indeed. |
| [01:56:00] | DreadPirateBob: | sorry. Not svideo, vga. |
| [01:56:00] | DreadPirateBob: | svideo won't cut it. |
| [01:57:00] | briand: | coochan: you know what I know, thus far. ie: it's supported in ivtv 0.4.x, and it's supported for PVR-350/250 in MythTV 0.19 ...beyond that, what to set how, I do not (yet) know. |
| [01:57:00] | DreadPirateBob: | Some vid cards have component out. They're labeled HDTV out. |
| [01:57:00] | coochan: | briand: I remember finding it before... |
| [01:57:00] | coochan: | it should be in README.vbi |
| [01:58:00] | coochan: | briand: are you running a new kernel and new ivtv ? |
| [02:00:00] | braniff: | what's the best distro these days for 0.19 ?? |
| [02:00:00] | DreadPirateBob: | quink: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Searc . . . mp;CatId=880 |
| [02:00:00] | ** braniff has an old FC3 mythtv installation he wants to upgrade... ** | |
| [02:00:00] | DreadPirateBob: | quink: note the hdtv output |
| [02:00:00] | coochan: | don't ask me, I'll just alwasy say Debian |
| [02:01:00] | braniff: | what about ubuntu? |
| [02:01:00] | coochan: | anyhow, if you have to change your distro just to upgrade mythtv, that's pretty wack in itself |
| [02:01:00] | briand: | coochan: I'm running 2.6.12–1.1381_FC3, ivtv 0.4.0 (tagged release), and MythTV 0.19 |
| [02:01:00] | coochan: | old kernel |
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| [02:01:00] | coochan: | well, let me research a bit here... |
| [02:01:00] | briand: | coochan: as new as it gets for FC3 |
| [02:01:00] | coochan: | I don't wanna spread FUD |
| [02:02:00] | quink: | 130$ for a video card? f that |
| [02:02:00] | nuonguy: | What library do you have to have installed in order for mythplugins to build with AAC? |
| [02:02:00] | coochan: | libfaad or something like that |
| [02:02:00] | quink: | i spent 20$ on mine a couple years ago and i'm happy. |
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| [02:02:00] | nuonguy: | Right now, ./configure --enable-aac reports "AAC support will not be included in MythMusic" |
| [02:03:00] | DreadPirateBob: | quink: your 20$ video card won't play hdtv |
| [02:03:00] | DreadPirateBob: | I guarantee it. |
| [02:03:00] | braniff: | dang! no ubuntu 0.19 packages yet |
| [02:03:00] | coochan: | briand: I thought you were already running 0.19 |
| [02:04:00] | briand: | coochan: I am. |
| [02:04:00] | coochan: | so what do you need pkg for? |
| [02:04:00] | briand: | coochan: I don't. |
| [02:04:00] | DreadPirateBob: | quink: If you go to pchdtv.com and click on the downloads link, there's a test clip. Try it and see. |
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| [02:04:00] | Hoxzer: | what would be a good way to setup mythtv to be able to play xvid/divx movies? |
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| [02:05:00] | DreadPirateBob: | It's a 25 Sec 1080i capture. |
| [02:05:00] | coochan: | Hoxzer: install mplayer |
| [02:05:00] | Hoxzer: | coochan: doesn't xine work as well? |
| [02:05:00] | coochan: | or xine |
| [02:05:00] | coochan: | if you know, why ask? |
| [02:05:00] | Hoxzer: | I was just thinking if I could select the file in mythtv |
| [02:06:00] | nuonguy: | For all you wondering that library enables me to --enable-aac, the answer is faad2 |
| [02:06:00] | Hoxzer: | because xine "browse file" doesn't look good in normal tv |
| [02:06:00] | briand: | coochan: oh.. i see. you typed "bri<tab>" instead of "bra<tab>" and meant to be asking braniff not briand |
| [02:06:00] | coochan: | sowwy |
| [02:06:00] | briand: | s'alright |
| [02:06:00] | coochan: | "browse file" ? |
| [02:07:00] | ** coochan never used xine much ** | |
| [02:07:00] | braniff: | huh? what? |
| [02:07:00] | coochan: | tab completion in irssi is annoying |
| [02:07:00] | coochan: | it should work like bash |
| [02:08:00] | ** braniff is not running 0.19 yet, because he's been busy as hell and hasn't had time to mess with mythtv much ** | |
| [02:08:00] | coochan: | briand: I'm pretty sure you need ivtv 0.4.3 |
| [02:08:00] | coochan: | it seems like 0.19 has a lot of improvements for peep with 2 or more tuner cards... |
| [02:09:00] | coochan: | so I'm excited to get it going |
| [02:09:00] | Hoxzer: | coochan: dont I need to select the xvid file in xine? |
| [02:09:00] | braniff: | no packages for 0.19 for any distros yet ?? |
| [02:10:00] | braniff: | i thought Axell said he would have them out "in a few hours" |
| [02:11:00] | DreadPirateBob: | I have packages for rPath Linux at dvr-n8.rpath.org |
| [02:11:00] | coochan: | Hoxzer: erm... you lost me |
| [02:11:00] | DreadPirateBob: | :) |
| [02:11:00] | coochan: | what I do is use the mythvideo plugin, which is used to pick the file I want, then that feeds it to mplayer |
| [02:11:00] | Hoxzer: | coochan: so we were talking about xvid/divx support in mythtv |
| [02:11:00] | coochan: | if you do anyhting else, I can't help, because that works for me (TM) and I don't know anything about xine |
| [02:11:00] | Hoxzer: | coochan: and I said browse file wouldn't look too good in normal tv |
| [02:11:00] | braniff: | rPath....hmm. Can't say I've heard of it |
| [02:12:00] | coochan: | Hoxzer: hello? |
| [02:12:00] | coochan: | briand: ivtvctl -b wss,cc -x 1 |
| [02:12:00] | Hoxzer: | coochan: hello |
| [02:12:00] | coochan: | briand: that should put the VBI data into the stream |
| [02:12:00] | Hoxzer: | browse file menu I mean |
| [02:12:00] | briand: | coochan: i've got those options in ivtv 0.4.0 as well |
| [02:12:00] | coochan: | briand: yes, but likely, they don't work |
| [02:13:00] | coochan: | briand: but go ahead and try |
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| [02:13:00] | coochan: | Hoxzer: that browsing stuff is provided by mythvideo plugin, not xine |
| [02:13:00] | briand: | coochan: m'kay.. another experiment to put on the list. :) |
| [02:13:00] | Kelerion: | evening all |
| [02:13:00] | Juski: | evening/morning Kelerion |
| [02:14:00] | Hoxzer: | coochan: so I just need to choose file and xine will open it? |
| [02:14:00] | coochan: | Hoxzer: it should, yes |
| [02:15:00] | ** braniff usually types "xine <filename>" ** | |
| [02:15:00] | Hoxzer: | ok... I need to check it |
| [02:15:00] | coochan: | briand: I *think* if that works that's all that mythtv needs you to do |
| [02:15:00] | Kelerion: | fixing a network protocol problem.. no idea how I got mismatched versions.. they were both svn up'd at the same time today.. but I think it's just got it's knickers in a twist to am removing all traces and re-installing |
| [02:15:00] | coochan: | briand: obviously on playback you'd need to turn it on... |
| [02:16:00] | coochan: | braniff: I do that unless I'm at my TV and only the remote is handy |
| [02:16:00] | coochan: | typing 'mplayer <file>' would be annoying with the remote (even with onscreen kbd!) |
| [02:17:00] | Juski: | right.. bedtime #2 |
| [02:17:00] | Juski: | night all |
| [02:17:00] | Kelerion: | g'night :) |
| [02:17:00] | coochan: | hmm, what is "us-cable-irc frequency mapping" ? |
| [02:19:00] | DreadPirateBob: | braniff: www.rpath.com I work for them. We just released 1.0 last week. |
| [02:19:00] | coochan: | briand: btw, I do see a semi-minor-looking VBI fix in 0.4.1 but I think 0.4.0 might work for VBI (closed captioning) |
| [02:20:00] | braniff: | DreadPirateBob, is there a Myth-distro version of rpath? |
| [02:20:00] | coochan: | rpath — commercial linux redistro? |
| [02:21:00] | coochan: | good luck with that :) |
| [02:22:00] | DreadPirateBob: | braniff: we're working on one. it'll be at dvr-n8.rpath.org |
| [02:22:00] | braniff: | how much would myth cost using rpath right now? |
| [02:22:00] | DreadPirateBob: | coochan: We're generating quite a bit of buzz. |
| [02:22:00] | DreadPirateBob: | braniff: If it's open, nothing. |
| [02:22:00] | DreadPirateBob: | As long as you don't mind that your project is public, we'll host it for free. |
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| [02:23:00] | DreadPirateBob: | Including the ISOs. |
| [02:25:00] | ** DreadPirateBob runs port25.rpath.org as well as funandgames.rpath.org ** | |
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| [02:30:00] | DreadPirateBob: | Did I kill the channel? |
| [02:32:00] | butabi: | yes |
| [02:32:00] | butabi: | :) |
| [02:32:00] | DreadPirateBob: | Doh! |
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| [02:34:00] | briand: | coochan: okay.. thanks.. I'll give it a try. |
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| [02:35:00] | briand: | coochan: but i'll do `ivtvctl -b cc -x 1` ...i don't need widescreen on my SDTV setup. :) |
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| [02:37:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | I'm noticing most people that are doing hdtv seem to be going through a VGA to HDMI or DVI to component adapter. Is that due to component video directly on video cards not working or just to lack of component out on their cards? |
| [02:38:00] | DreadPirateBob: | ip_goat_rodeo: component out is a relatively new thing on video cards. |
| [02:38:00] | DreadPirateBob: | And you have to get special cards to do it. |
| [02:38:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | ah, the card I just got has both component and D4 hd-outs. |
| [02:38:00] | DreadPirateBob: | Nice |
| [02:39:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | was wondering why there weren't many examples of people driving their sets directly off their card |
| [02:40:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | I was planning on using the D4 jack directly if I can get away with it |
| [02:40:00] | DreadPirateBob: | What's D4? Is that hdmi? |
| [02:40:00] | DreadPirateBob: | Or DVI-4? |
| [02:40:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | D4 is a japanese-market-only connector |
| [02:41:00] | DreadPirateBob: | Ahh |
| [02:41:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | its components, but through a single connector |
| [02:41:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | looks like a tiny mini-centronics plug |
| [02:42:00] | DreadPirateBob: | I have an HD-5000 capture card, but no video card with enough juice to decode it. |
| [02:42:00] | DreadPirateBob: | Sucks. |
| [02:43:00] | DreadPirateBob: | Maybe next month I can buy a GeForce 6200 with HDTV out to drive it. |
| [02:43:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | I picked up a fanless 6600 that had the component/d4 outs |
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| [02:44:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | no myth-supported hd capture cards in japan yet. need to play and see if I can get firewire connect to an outboard tuner. |
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| [02:46:00] | hertz: | Hello, I thought ~/.qt was a useless directory but apparently deleting it makes mythtv act odd. Can someone send me their .qt dir or tell me what files are there. I get the error: QSettings: error creating /.qt |
| [02:46:00] | hertz: | QSettings::sync: filename is null/empty |
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| [02:49:00] | DreadPirateBob: | Sounds like you have a write permission problem that is keeping myth from creating ~/.qt |
| [02:50:00] | hertz: | Permissions are fine. There is a *.lock file with nothing in it in the dir. |
| [02:51:00] | hertz: | I have "qt_plugins_3.3rc" and "qt_plugins_3.3rc.lock" in my "~/.qt" dir. Is that right? |
| [02:52:00] | hertz: | From the logs it looks like myth backend is trying to create the .qt dir off of "/" |
| [02:55:00] | quink: | hah. i just tried doing all of those screen settings now to get 16:9 and the tv is having some trouble |
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| [03:03:00] | sanmarcos: | what does NVP: Prebuffer wait timed out 10 times mean? |
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| [03:07:00] | sanmarcos: | is there a way to commercial flagging on somethi ng already recorded? |
| [03:07:00] | quink: | ok. if i do 720x540 outpu stuff is fucked up. if i do 800x600 its fine. what gives? |
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| [03:08:00] | k-man: | wheres that site that lists the compatibility of dvb-t cards? |
| [03:08:00] | k-man: | or tv cards i should say? |
| [03:09:00] | sanmarcos: | k-man: see the hard section of wiki |
| [03:09:00] | k-man: | ok |
| [03:11:00] | threat: | I have heard it is a good idea to use JFS instead of EXT where DVD isos will be stored on the drive, would using reiserfs or XFS give better results or the same results as JFS ? |
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| [03:12:00] | k-man: | sanmarcos, i'm sure i saw a list that was pretty comprehensive once |
| [03:12:00] | k-man: | but i can't find it now |
| [03:12:00] | sanmarcos: | threat: XFS that is |
| [03:13:00] | sanmarcos: | threat: XFS/JFS both handle big files much better than EXT |
| [03:13:00] | k-man: | sanmarcos, yeah, i switched to xfs and its much better for mythtv now |
| [03:13:00] | k-man: | deletes are almost instant |
| [03:13:00] | sanmarcos: | EXT3 that is |
| [03:13:00] | k-man: | wherese it took ages before |
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| [03:13:00] | sanmarcos: | the performance increase is only on delete? |
| [03:13:00] | sanmarcos: | deleting big files just flies.. I havent compared since I didnt use myth on ext |
| [03:14:00] | k-man: | sanmarcos, the only noticeable perfomance increase for a mythtv only box for me was in deletes |
| [03:14:00] | k-man: | i don't do anything else on that box so other experiences are limited |
| [03:15:00] | sanmarcos: | anyways I have an issue with Live Tv locking up after a show is done |
| [03:15:00] | sanmarcos: | I suspect it has to do with commercial flagging |
| [03:16:00] | sanmarcos: | k-man: Myth would just fly on a Raptor 10.000 RPM with XFS or JFS |
| [03:16:00] | k-man: | yeah, probably |
| [03:16:00] | sanmarcos: | specially with SATA |
| [03:16:00] | k-man: | i recently added a second 250gig drive to my setup |
| [03:16:00] | sanmarcos: | how much? |
| [03:16:00] | k-man: | using lvm |
| [03:16:00] | k-man: | it was easy |
| [03:17:00] | sanmarcos: | lvm is for raid? |
| [03:17:00] | k-man: | and as i used lvm, it was a smooth transition |
| [03:17:00] | k-man: | sanmarcos, you can also use it for jbod |
| [03:17:00] | sanmarcos: | I dont know what lvm really is.. |
| [03:17:00] | sanmarcos: | or what the advantages of it are |
| [03:17:00] | k-man: | basicaly you can just add space and extend your existing partitions |
| [03:17:00] | k-man: | it virtualises your partitions across your drives |
| [03:18:00] | sanmarcos: | so you can have one partition for 4 drives |
| [03:18:00] | sanmarcos: | like raid |
| [03:18:00] | sanmarcos: | virtual partition that is, one mounpoint for many drives |
| [03:19:00] | sanmarcos: | but I guess theyll have to be the same partition/fs |
| [03:19:00] | sanmarcos: | how much did you pay for the 250 k-man ? |
| [03:19:00] | k-man: | oh |
| [03:19:00] | k-man: | dunno, it was a gift from my mum :) |
| [03:20:00] | k-man: | sanmarcos, are you in australia? |
| [03:20:00] | sanmarcos: | nope, US |
| [03:20:00] | k-man: | oh, ok |
| [03:20:00] | k-man: | imho, 7k2 drives are plenty fast enough for mythtv |
| [03:21:00] | k-man: | i think you could watch a show and record 2 shows simultaneously with 7k2 drives |
| [03:21:00] | k-man: | but that depends also if your doing analogue capturing or digital. I only capture digital |
| [03:21:00] | sanmarcos: | I dont have dual tuners |
| [03:22:00] | sanmarcos: | but you have to pay for digital service right? |
| [03:22:00] | sanmarcos: | in australia there is no over the air hd? |
| [03:22:00] | Agrajag-: | we have free dvb-t |
| [03:23:00] | sanmarcos: | but you need an antenna right? |
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| [03:23:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah.. that's what dvb-t is. it's digital. both SD and HD |
| [03:23:00] | k-man: | yeah |
| [03:23:00] | k-man: | Agrajag-, your in aus. aren't you? |
| [03:23:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah |
| [03:24:00] | sanmarcos: | but you need to buy an antenna |
| [03:24:00] | Agrajag-: | no you don't |
| [03:24:00] | k-man: | nomego, just normal tv antenna works |
| [03:24:00] | Agrajag-: | standard antennas (coat hangers) work |
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| [03:24:00] | k-man: | Agrajag-, any recommendations for a dvb-t card at the moment? |
| [03:25:00] | Agrajag-: | not really. mine work fine.. i have 2 visionplus cards |
| [03:25:00] | sanmarcos: | oh that is way cool, but I like my PVR 350, ill wait for Hauppauge to come out with an HD card |
| [03:25:00] | mchou: | ok, anyone here have a system running with 1GB RAM? |
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| [03:25:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah mchou |
| [03:25:00] | mchou: | Agrajag-: how much HIGH/LOW mem you have? (according to dmesg) |
| [03:26:00] | mchou: | dmesg | grep HIGHMEM |
| [03:26:00] | sanmarcos: | older kernels had problems |
| [03:26:00] | Agrajag-: | 896MB LOWMEM available |
| [03:27:00] | mchou: | Agrajag-: what kernel/distro you using? |
| [03:27:00] | Agrajag-: | Use a HIGHMEM enabled kernel. |
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| [03:27:00] | Agrajag-: | heh. debian.. my own kernel |
| [03:27:00] | mchou: | Agrajag-: why? |
| [03:27:00] | WeezeyD: | I'm getting: ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x40 not found for command 0x80287610! when I ivtv inits |
| [03:27:00] | Agrajag-: | err that's what i got from dmesg | grep HIGHMEM |
| [03:27:00] | mchou: | Agrajag-: 126M of HIGHMEM is just overhead |
| [03:27:00] | Agrajag-: | i think i may need to fix this |
| [03:28:00] | Agrajag-: | Warning only 896MB will be used. Use a HIGHMEM enabled kernel. |
| [03:28:00] | sanmarcos: | yep recompile |
| [03:28:00] | Agrajag-: | i thought highmem was for >4G |
| [03:28:00] | mchou: | Agrajag-: arent you better off if you have 1GB to use exclusively lowmwm? |
| [03:28:00] | mchou: | lowmem* |
| [03:28:00] | Agrajag-: | but i don't, i only have 896 ? |
| [03:29:00] | mchou: | Agrajag-: how much physical ram you got in that machine? |
| [03:29:00] | Agrajag-: | 1 gig. 2x512 sticks |
| [03:29:00] | mchou: | Agrajag-: ok. I think you may want the lowmem patch :) |
| [03:30:00] | mchou: | 1GB (full) for lowmem only |
| [03:30:00] | Agrajag-: | lowmem patch? or just enable highmem? (im using 2.6.13 atm, plan to use 2.6.16 when it's done) |
| [03:31:00] | mchou: | If you got 1GB of physical mem I dont think it's worthwhile to enable HIGHMEM |
| [03:31:00] | mchou: | 126M of HIGHMEM is more trouble than it's worth. |
| [03:31:00] | Agrajag-: | ok, i'll look into it |
| [03:32:00] | sanmarcos: | what is the housekeeping thread? |
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| [03:42:00] | KC: | Anyone here had trouble with 0.19 pvr350 and inability to control volume in video playback (but can in music playback) ?? |
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| [03:42:00] | thechris: | "the file for this recording cannot be found" |
| [03:43:00] | thechris: | its the new problem i'm getting in 0.19 |
| [03:43:00] | ** ip_goat_rodeo would kill for a supported isdb-t card ** | |
| [03:44:00] | mchou: | ip_goat_rodeo: bah, you'd have to wait for some japanese company to make a card, and I think that's rather unlikely |
| [03:45:00] | mchou: | not a big enough market over there :) |
| [03:46:00] | mchou: | but it wouldnt surprise me if you can shoehorn an isdb-t nim onto an existing card design, and make it work |
| [03:46:00] | Kelerion: | http://www.zentek.com/product_digitaltv_japan_02.htm |
| [03:46:00] | thechris: | mythtv no longer records new shows. what can i do? |
| [03:46:00] | thechris: | i have space on the disk |
| [03:46:00] | thechris: | and it thinks it recorded the show |
| [03:46:00] | thechris: | but makes no file... |
| [03:47:00] | Kelerion: | montavista is embedded... but it's still linux |
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| [03:51:00] | thechris: | anyone have any ideas as to how to set up mythtv to record files... it keeps saying "file not found" and is correct becasue it doens't record the shows but also doens't log anything. |
| [03:52:00] | Kelerion: | sounds like either a permissions problem.. or a card problem to me |
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| [03:53:00] | Netslayer: | is gcc 4 supported? |
| [03:54:00] | Kelerion: | yup |
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| [03:55:00] | Netslayer: | cool |
| [03:55:00] | thechris: | Kelerion: the permissions haven't changed since i upgraded |
| [03:55:00] | Kelerion: | what did you upgrade? |
| [03:55:00] | thechris: | i do have a /tv/tv now though, which makes no sense. |
| [03:56:00] | thechris: | Kelerion: i went from 0.18 to 0.19 and it broke a lot of stuff. |
| [03:56:00] | Kelerion: | ahh ok |
| [03:56:00] | Kelerion: | dunno then |
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| [03:58:00] | thechris: | Cardoe: whats with the 0.19 ebuilds in gentoo. now i can't record tv! |
| [03:58:00] | Cardoe: | thechris: there's nothing with them |
| [03:58:00] | Cardoe: | what's with your setup? |
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| [04:00:00] | thechris: | Cardoe: It stopped making files for recordings. |
| [04:00:00] | thechris: | Cardoe: amd64, ivtv, pvr500 |
| [04:01:00] | Cardoe: | thechris: read the end of the ebuild |
| [04:01:00] | Z-Morek: | anyone else have issues with lirc after switching from .18 to .19? |
| [04:01:00] | Cardoe: | you need to chown -R mythtv:users /your/recordings/folder |
| [04:03:00] | thechris: | Cardoe: mythtv? i don't have a mythtv. i thought it was mythuser |
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| [04:04:00] | Cardoe: | thechris: no it's mythtv |
| [04:04:00] | Cardoe: | mythuser is from the moron on the Wiki |
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| [04:04:00] | Cardoe: | who decided he/she didn't like the fact that I used "mythtv" |
| [04:04:00] | Cardoe: | so they renamed it on the wiki to "mythuser" |
| [04:05:00] | Cardoe: | right... cause renaming the stuff on the wiki makes it change in the ebuild |
| [04:05:00] | ** Kelerion chuckles ** | |
| [04:05:00] | Cardoe: | So I corrected it |
| [04:05:00] | Cardoe: | but they changed it back |
| [04:05:00] | thechris: | so i need to make another mythtv user... |
| [04:05:00] | Cardoe: | So... whatever.. |
| [04:05:00] | Cardoe: | thechris: it creates the user for you |
| [04:06:00] | thechris: | you sure? |
| [04:06:00] | thechris: | su mythuser -C whoami |
| [04:06:00] | thechris: | root |
| [04:06:00] | Cardoe: | grep 'mythtv' /etc/passwd |
| [04:07:00] | thechris: | it is listed |
| [04:07:00] | night-red: | what do i have to do to get xine to play encrepted dvd's |
| [04:07:00] | Kelerion: | install libdvdcss |
| [04:07:00] | Kelerion: | or libdvdcss2 |
| [04:09:00] | night-red: | any settings after that |
| [04:09:00] | thechris: | Cardoe: and this permission issue is at the end of the ebuild. the log only shows the part about cron and starting the backend. nothing about changing permissions |
| [04:09:00] | Kelerion: | nope.. just install in whatever way you do on your dist |
| [04:13:00] | night-red: | well i have it installed and xine still says the dvd is encrpyted and will not play |
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| [04:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | Blah, I hate writing these things, I never know what to say |
| [04:15:00] | Kelerion: | whatcha writing? |
| [04:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | A letter of resignation |
| [04:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | I suppose Ishould just go with the basics |
| [04:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | "two weeks and I'm outta here bitches" |
| [04:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | or something along those lines |
| [04:15:00] | Kelerion: | "I would like to thank you for the time I have spent at your organisation. The time has been valuable and I wish you all the best for your company. Best Regards blah..." pad that out :) |
| [04:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah It'll be something like that I imagine |
| [04:16:00] | squish102: | i prefered the bitches one |
| [04:16:00] | Kelerion: | that was effective what my last one said.. with a bit of guff.. got a nice reference out of it |
| [04:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | Just sucks that my boss is not gonna be there in person, so I'll have to hand the letter to HR and call my bnoss on the phone heh |
| [04:18:00] | Kelerion: | "hah! screw you! am outta here!! p.s. can I have a reference?" |
| [04:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | hehe |
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| [04:23:00] | Z-Morek: | okay so I tried migrating from apt to compiling on my own |
| [04:23:00] | Ukyo[MegaTokyo]: | Hey.. If I am using a tuner without mpeg2 decoder onboard, if I have a good video card with mpeg2 decoder on it, can it use that instead of software ? |
| [04:23:00] | Z-Morek: | and lirc is broken |
| [04:23:00] | Z-Morek: | and I'm in the midst of recompiling svn again after a long process of compiling lirc and lame from scratch |
| [04:23:00] | Kelerion: | mtd runs on a FE doesn't it? |
| [04:23:00] | Z-Morek: | and blah blah blah |
| [04:23:00] | Z-Morek: | am I better off with the apt? |
| [04:23:00] | Kelerion: | am trying something new – ripping a dvd.. lol |
| [04:25:00] | MattC: | Ukyo: I think only some mpeg2 decoders are supported |
| [04:25:00] | Ukyo[MegaTokyo]: | hmm |
| [04:25:00] | MattC: | do you need a hardware mpeg2 decoder? |
| [04:27:00] | Ukyo[MegaTokyo]: | yeah |
| [04:27:00] | Z-Morek: | if I compiled and installed in my own would apt recognize them? |
| [04:27:00] | Ukyo[MegaTokyo]: | I was able to get the hdtv wonder to work |
| [04:27:00] | Ukyo[MegaTokyo]: | but since it does not have hardware decoder, its eating the crap out of my cpu |
| [04:27:00] | MattC: | what sort of video card? |
| [04:28:00] | Ukyo[MegaTokyo]: | raedeon 9550 |
| [04:28:00] | Ukyo[MegaTokyo]: | it really doesnt have an mpeg2 decoder onboard |
| [04:28:00] | Ukyo[MegaTokyo]: | thats why i was asking if the tuner should be able ot use one from it |
| [04:29:00] | Ukyo[MegaTokyo]: | thinking about upgrading |
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| [04:29:00] | Ukyo[MegaTokyo]: | or adding on a standalone supported mpeg2 de/encoder card |
| [04:31:00] | nasa: | Ukyo[MegaTokyo]: what drivers are you using? |
| [04:33:00] | MattC: | I'm having this annoying problem with yum. I gives me this error: "Transaction Check Error: package sqlite-3.1.2–3 (which is newer than sqlite-3.1.2–2.99_1.rhfc4.at) is already installed". The sqlite that I have installed is x86_64 while the one it wants to install is i386. Is there any way to tell what wants the i386 version? Or any other way to get around this? |
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| [04:36:00] | smcnaught: | been working with google for a day now trying to find docs on installing lirc to work with the MCEUSB remote that is included in the PVR150 Media Center Kit.. Anyone got this working or know where docs are? |
| [04:36:00] | sanmarcos: | mceusb remote? |
| [04:36:00] | sanmarcos: | what is your problem |
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| [04:39:00] | Yellow-Snow: | hey guys.. i have a question.. i hooked up my box to this 60inch sorta old tv.. and well i see waves across the screen sorta.. how come? the freq or what? how do fix it? |
| [04:39:00] | smcnaught: | I can read the remote from irecord.. I made a custom lircd.conf.. made a .lircrc file to relate back to the custom file.. irw just kills the connection to lirc.. |
| [04:41:00] | night-red: | how do you set the dvd's drives regon code |
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| [04:45:00] | smcnaught: | scratch that.. found the problem.. was permissions on /dev/lirc* files |
| [04:48:00] | xpis: | Yellow-Snow: are you using S-video? |
| [04:49:00] | Yellow-Snow: | yes xpis |
| [04:49:00] | Yellow-Snow: | its weird.. my dads brand new big screen it works fine... tho this one i call old is giving me waves |
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| [04:49:00] | xpis: | Yellow-Snow: Are the borders of the screen within the borders of the TV? |
| [04:49:00] | Yellow-Snow: | hm overscale is on |
| [04:50:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i can turn on run it in the mythtv window which makes it in the screen? |
| [04:50:00] | xpis: | Try changing your overscan parameters |
| [04:50:00] | Yellow-Snow: | aight |
| [04:50:00] | night-red: | thanks i got it done, had to set the dvd region |
| [04:51:00] | xpis: | Overscan may be messing up the TV's stabilization. |
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| [04:53:00] | xpis: | I assume this is an old CRT projection, which may not include proper filters to filter out signals beyond the viewable screen size. |
| [04:55:00] | xpis: | You of course can overscan some, as all TV signals have more scanlines and longer rows than TVs can display. |
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| [05:04:00] | coochan: | Yellow-Snow: hey |
| [05:04:00] | wakko: | hello everyone |
| [05:04:00] | coochan: | Yellow-Snow: sometimes you can see waves due to lack of shielding on the svideo cable |
| [05:05:00] | Kelerion: | what port is the http backend status on again? |
| [05:05:00] | coochan: | Yellow-Snow: do you use the same cable for the one where it's good and the one it's bad? |
| [05:05:00] | wakko: | I'm creating a MythTV box on a P4 3.4GHz with a PVR 150 and a 250 on RedHat FC4 using Jarod's guide. |
| [05:05:00] | wakko: | sorta new to linux |
| [05:05:00] | wakko: | and sorta new to IRC |
| [05:06:00] | wakko: | got a problem loading lirc, I think |
| [05:06:00] | coochan: | welcome to all that |
| [05:06:00] | wakko: | heh |
| [05:06:00] | coochan: | lirc is a bitch sometimes |
| [05:06:00] | wakko: | well, it seems to be in my case |
| [05:06:00] | coochan: | "load lirc" — you mean kernel modules? |
| [05:07:00] | wakko: | I just edoted themodprobe.conf file |
| [05:07:00] | coochan: | edoted? |
| [05:07:00] | wakko: | and then I loaded the lirc module |
| [05:07:00] | coochan: | oh, reloaded? |
| [05:07:00] | wakko: | heh – it's late – my typing is pretty bad |
| [05:08:00] | coochan: | wakko: did the lirc_i2c module load? |
| [05:08:00] | wakko: | I think so |
| [05:09:00] | wakko: | I'm typing everything as the guide says to |
| [05:09:00] | wakko: | and I'm not getting errors in the terminal |
| [05:09:00] | wakko: | but the guide says that I should get 2 "OK"s |
| [05:09:00] | wakko: | and I', not |
| [05:09:00] | wakko: | I'm not |
| [05:10:00] | wakko: | I type |
| [05:10:00] | coochan: | don't say "I think so" |
| [05:10:00] | wakko: | Well, |
| [05:10:00] | coochan: | just do 'lsmod | grep lirc' |
| [05:10:00] | wakko: | that's the case |
| [05:11:00] | coochan: | and see if its loaded or not |
| [05:11:00] | wakko: | honestly, I'm not sure what result to expect, so "I think so" suits my status well. |
| [05:11:00] | coochan: | when you do the command I cited, you'll see this among others: |
| [05:11:00] | coochan: | lirc_i2c 10756 1 |
| [05:11:00] | wakko: | lsmod: command not found |
| [05:12:00] | coochan: | try it as root or under sudo or something |
| [05:12:00] | wakko: | I am su right now |
| [05:12:00] | coochan: | 'locate lsmod' |
| [05:12:00] | coochan: | your PATH must be messed up — can't help with things like that because I don't do RH if I can help it |
| [05:12:00] | coochan: | it should bein in /bin or /sbin |
| [05:13:00] | wakko: | is there a diustro that's recommended as better for MythTV? |
| [05:13:00] | coochan: | whatever works for you is fine |
| [05:13:00] | wakko: | ok, it just seems that every linux dude I talk to hated redhat. |
| [05:13:00] | wakko: | hates |
| [05:13:00] | coochan: | yah, well |
| [05:13:00] | wakko: | heh |
| [05:13:00] | coochan: | redhat is pretty much dying out I think |
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| [05:13:00] | coochan: | bob young was pretty smart but he left a while ago |
| [05:13:00] | wakko: | wow. |
| [05:14:00] | coochan: | well.. they're big so they can recover |
| [05:14:00] | wakko: | I see. |
| [05:14:00] | coochan: | but they definately seem to be on the wrong track, IMHO |
| [05:14:00] | wakko: | Redhat is dying out, or Fedora is dying out? |
| [05:14:00] | coochan: | anyhow whose business model is to *charge* for bugfixes and security updates, I kinda have to hate |
| [05:14:00] | k-man: | redhat is good if you want the microsoft of the linux world imho |
| [05:14:00] | wakko: | I see. |
| [05:14:00] | wakko: | Well, I'm NO fan of M$ |
| [05:14:00] | coochan: | that encourages the impovershed to be buggy/insecure |
| [05:14:00] | wakko: | Mac geek, personally. |
| [05:15:00] | coochan: | ah |
| [05:15:00] | wakko: | but I'm new to the unix thing. |
| [05:15:00] | coochan: | NeXTOS |
| [05:15:00] | coochan: | Mac is unix now tho, isn' tit? |
| [05:15:00] | coochan: | anyhow |
| [05:15:00] | coochan: | distro wars are boring and I'm certifyably the wrong person to ask |
| [05:15:00] | wakko: | I had a Myth box sunning a few years ago, but I found it too hard to maintain at my level of knowledge |
| [05:15:00] | coochan: | since I've bene running linux since 0.99pl13 |
| [05:16:00] | wakko: | Mac is BSD, but they do a great job of hiding the underpinnings from the common user. |
| [05:16:00] | k-man: | i like debian |
| [05:16:00] | k-man: | as a distro |
| [05:16:00] | coochan: | I would suggest maybe ubuntu as a possible alternative tho |
| [05:16:00] | wakko: | I work in design and video production, so I never touch the terminal. |
| [05:16:00] | k-man: | yeah |
| [05:16:00] | coochan: | debian is my choice too but for newbies it's a little rough |
| [05:16:00] | k-man: | if you want it to just work |
| [05:16:00] | coochan: | wakko: ah |
| [05:16:00] | k-man: | get ubuntu, i hear good things about it |
| [05:16:00] | wakko: | kewl |
| [05:16:00] | coochan: | wakko: non-linear video stuff? |
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| [05:16:00] | wakko: | yeah – FCP, aftereffects, maya, stufflike that |
| [05:16:00] | coochan: | ah |
| [05:17:00] | coochan: | maya is on linux now right? |
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| [05:17:00] | coochan: | linux lacks any sort of decent NLE tho I think |
| [05:17:00] | wakko: | there's a linux version, but I use it on Max OS X and Windows, it's much easier to install. |
| [05:17:00] | coochan: | I know hollywood went way into linux, esp after SGI went down |
| [05:17:00] | coochan: | right... its good for people who need like 100 machine farms |
| [05:17:00] | wakko: | Well, most pros that I know run Maya on Windows |
| [05:17:00] | wakko: | yeah |
| [05:17:00] | coochan: | ironic that the machines that are the hardest for newbiew are the easiest to manage in a big farm |
| [05:17:00] | wakko: | cheap renderfarms = linux |
| [05:18:00] | wakko: | but that's not my department |
| [05:18:00] | coochan: | yah yah, got it |
| [05:18:00] | wakko: | heh |
| [05:18:00] | wakko: | Enjoying Linux, but I'd like a more ubiquitous UI |
| [05:18:00] | coochan: | wakka: anyh9ow, did you find lsmod ? |
| [05:18:00] | wakko: | seems powerful |
| [05:18:00] | phar0e: | why would farms need computers? |
| [05:18:00] | wakko: | ah |
| [05:18:00] | thechris: | ok, the permission thing failed |
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| [05:19:00] | thechris: | how do i set up mythtv to record shows to /tv |
| [05:19:00] | coochan: | thechris: RTM |
| [05:19:00] | wakko: | no lsmod in (/usr/kerberos/sbin:/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bi n:/home/mythtv/bin) |
| [05:19:00] | phar0e: | mkdir /tv |
| [05:19:00] | phar0e: | mythtv-setup |
| [05:19:00] | coochan: | wakko: try /sbin/lsmod |
| [05:19:00] | thechris: | because it used to do it, then i upgraded to 0.19 and now it stoped working |
| [05:19:00] | coochan: | thechris: ew |
| [05:19:00] | wakko: | that didi something – yielded a list of stuff |
| [05:19:00] | thechris: | phar0e: the settings in mythtv-setup are correct. upgrading to 0.19 seems to have broken something |
| [05:20:00] | thechris: | it'd be nice if myth would log this kinda thing... |
| [05:20:00] | coochan: | wakko: ok, then, again, '/sbin/lsmod | grep lirc' |
| [05:20:00] | wakko: | ok |
| [05:20:00] | wakko: | 3 items |
| [05:20:00] | coochan: | good good |
| [05:20:00] | rav3r: | im having trouble telling why two instances of mythfrontend are starting when i restart |
| [05:21:00] | wakko: | is that a list of running processes? |
| [05:21:00] | coochan: | no, the list of kernel modules that are loaded |
| [05:21:00] | coochan: | wakko: its just not working right? |
| [05:21:00] | rav3r: | i have a script from here: http://www.wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php#auto |
| [05:21:00] | wakko: | Well, I don't really know how to tell if it is working |
| [05:21:00] | rav3r: | all i did was add export DISPLAY=:0.0 before the mythfrontend call to target one of my screens |
| [05:22:00] | thechris: | so far i have the permissions set up as 777, the directory exists. mythtv-setup shows the correct settings. no errors are logged. i've proved that ivtv works. |
| [05:22:00] | coochan: | wakko: do you have the receiver plugged into the hauppauge card? |
| [05:22:00] | wakko: | the directions on Jarod's guide say that I should see 2 "OK"s after I type "/sbin/servide lircd start" |
| [05:22:00] | thechris: | mythtv 0.19 thinks it is recording, but makes no file |
| [05:22:00] | wakko: | the IR reciever is plugged in |
| [05:22:00] | thechris: | and logs nothing useful |
| [05:22:00] | coochan: | 'servide' eh? |
| [05:23:00] | coochan: | that must be a RH thing, no clue what that is |
| [05:23:00] | wakko: | yeah – please pardon the typing. I'm trying to keep up |
| [05:24:00] | coochan: | np |
| [05:24:00] | coochan: | trying to find a good tester |
| [05:24:00] | wakko: | ok well, to test, I guess I'm supposed to type "/usr/bin/irw" |
| [05:24:00] | coochan: | oh? |
| [05:24:00] | coochan: | go ahead then :) |
| [05:24:00] | wakko: | and I get "no file or directory" |
| [05:24:00] | coochan: | hmm |
| [05:24:00] | coochan: | 'locate irw' |
| [05:25:00] | wakko: | coochan: "warning: locate: could not open database: /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db: No such file or directory" |
| [05:26:00] | coochan: | that's ok |
| [05:26:00] | coochan: | did you just install? |
| [05:26:00] | wakko: | yeah |
| [05:26:00] | wakko: | I just did "updatedb" |
| [05:26:00] | coochan: | it probalby hasn't built the database yet |
| [05:26:00] | wakko: | and locate works now |
| [05:27:00] | coochan: | so,... do you have irw installed? |
| [05:27:00] | wakko: | looks like its installed. |
| [05:27:00] | wakko: | yes |
| [05:27:00] | smcnaught: | might be in /usr/local/bin/ |
| [05:27:00] | wakko: | usr/bin/irw |
| [05:27:00] | coochan: | so you might have to run that with the full path |
| [05:27:00] | coochan: | that's odd, /usr/bin is in your path as well |
| [05:28:00] | wakko: | yeah |
| [05:28:00] | coochan: | sometimees you have to run 'hash -r' so 'bash' (the shell program) re-hashes what is in the path or not |
| [05:29:00] | smcnaught: | permission issue? |
| [05:29:00] | thechris: | someone suggested that i try "the other codecs on the mythtv site" i cannot find them |
| [05:30:00] | coochan: | thechris: someone lied.. therea re no codecs there |
| [05:30:00] | wakko: | pehaps a restart will clean thing sup? |
| [05:30:00] | coochan: | thank god |
| [05:30:00] | coochan: | wakko: well, did you run irw? |
| [05:30:00] | wakko: | nope |
| [05:30:00] | wakko: | it will not run |
| [05:30:00] | coochan: | what does it say? |
| [05:30:00] | wakko: | I keep getting a no such file or directory error |
| [05:30:00] | smcnaught: | ohhh |
| [05:30:00] | smcnaught: | config file is missing |
| [05:30:00] | coochan: | paste it... |
| [05:30:00] | smcnaught: | I had that error |
| [05:31:00] | smcnaught: | it is looking in /etc/ for the /etc/lircd.conf |
| [05:31:00] | coochan: | ah |
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| [05:31:00] | coochan: | yah, you need a lircd.conf which is specifically for the hauppauge |
| [05:32:00] | wakko: | is that downloadable from somewhere, or do I have to create it? |
| [05:32:00] | smcnaught: | and the file ~/.mythtv/lircrc |
| [05:32:00] | thechris: | I think i know where the problem is. |
| [05:32:00] | smcnaught: | what type of remote is it? |
| [05:32:00] | thechris: | i cannot do a "watch tv" |
| [05:32:00] | thechris: | why? |
| [05:33:00] | wakko: | the 34 button grey with colored buttons around the arrow keys |
| [05:33:00] | smcnaught: | thechris: you had it workin before on a previous version? or new install? |
| [05:33:00] | thechris: | smcnaught: 0.18 worked |
| [05:33:00] | coochan: | thechris: try watching /dev/video0 from cmdline |
| [05:33:00] | thechris: | coochan: that works |
| [05:33:00] | coochan: | wakko: the one that came with the hauppauge 350 ? |
| [05:33:00] | smcnaught: | thechris: fraid I can't help.. running 0.18.1 |
| [05:34:00] | wakko: | 250, and yes it came with it |
| [05:34:00] | coochan: | me too |
| [05:34:00] | smcnaught: | wakko: the files are available online |
| [05:34:00] | coochan: | just google for hauppauge 250 lirc |
| [05:34:00] | coochan: | or lircd.conf |
| [05:34:00] | wakko: | cool – any idea where I can get them? |
| [05:34:00] | wakko: | ok |
| [05:34:00] | thechris: | smcnaught: i think i figured it out. seems the gentoo package has issues... |
| [05:35:00] | diff: | any minimyth users out there? |
| [05:35:00] | thechris: | i don't think 'mythtv' got added to the 'video' group |
| [05:36:00] | thechris: | hmm, that didn't fix it either |
| [05:36:00] | thechris: | i wish mythtv would log something... |
| [05:36:00] | coochan: | thechris: did you look in the mythfrontend and backend logs? |
| [05:36:00] | coochan: | it does log |
| [05:36:00] | smcnaught: | ohh.. ok.. for that one.. I think you need to edit a file in /etc/.. just trying to remember what one.. looking |
| [05:36:00] | coochan: | for me the init thows backend log to /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log |
| [05:37:00] | thechris: | coochan: i've found the log, but it doens't log anything about what is going on |
| [05:37:00] | coochan: | if not, then run the backend from the cmdline with --verbose all argument |
| [05:37:00] | coochan: | thechris: frontend and backend you checked? |
| [05:37:00] | coochan: | and verbose all both of them |
| [05:38:00] | coochan: | and if still no joy, maybe pastebin the messages |
| [05:39:00] | thechris: | hmm. it seems mythtv is doing things it should not do. it wants to use svideo0 instead of tuner0 |
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| [05:40:00] | smcnaught: | thechris: is tuner configured? |
| [05:40:00] | smcnaught: | in mythtv-setup? |
| [05:41:00] | coochan: | maybe you lost some config |
| [05:42:00] | threat: | sooo |
| [05:42:00] | threat: | JFS, EXT, Reiserfs, or XFS? |
| [05:42:00] | threat: | or other |
| [05:44:00] | thechris: | xfs |
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| [05:44:00] | thechris: | hmm. if i had to guess, i'd say 0.19 and ivtv 0.42 don't play nice |
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| [05:45:00] | smcnaught: | thechris: also.. in regards to your thing with gentoo.. the file is located within /etc/security/ I think it is console.perms |
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| [05:45:00] | thechris: | smcnaught: i don't follow |
| [05:46:00] | smcnaught: | still tryin to find where I saw the issue you are talking about.. but I saw that there were some permissions that needed to be modified in a conf file |
| [05:46:00] | smcnaught: | might be a rabbits trail tho.. |
| [05:47:00] | smcnaught: | thechris: you stated that ivtv works from the command line using mplayer or xine? |
| [05:47:00] | coochan: | thechris: I did LVM with jfs, very happy |
| [05:47:00] | thechris: | smcnaught: oh, yeah. in gentoo, the mythtv user changed from 'mythuser' to 'mythtv' and i don't think mythtv is in the video user group |
| [05:48:00] | coochan: | sorry, that's was for threat |
| [05:48:00] | coochan: | blah |
| [05:48:00] | thechris: | smcnaught: i cat to a file, then play it over the network |
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| [05:48:00] | _achew22: | hello |
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| [05:49:00] | smcnaught: | thechris: mplayer -vo xv /dev/video0 works? |
| [05:49:00] | threat: | coochan, thanx, thechris |
| [05:49:00] | threat: | ok so for large files I am best using either JFS or XFS? |
| [05:49:00] | threat: | what is the definition of a large file? |
| [05:49:00] | thechris: | smcnaught: i can only assume it would. i have no way to do it though. all i can do is cat /dev/video0 > file then play the resulting file |
| [05:50:00] | coochan: | i' |
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| [05:50:00] | coochan: | i've got files over 10GB, no problem |
| [05:50:00] | coochan: | deletes are a bit slow... |
| [05:50:00] | threat: | :O, over 10GB? why? |
| [05:50:00] | coochan: | I think any would work fine |
| [05:50:00] | coochan: | threat: movies |
| [05:50:00] | coochan: | long movies |
| [05:50:00] | threat: | coochan, 10GB for a movie? have you heard of DIVX or XVID? :) |
| [05:50:00] | smcnaught: | thechris: it does sound like permissions |
| [05:50:00] | coochan: | I could transcode them down, but, frankly, the quality loss is not acceptable and disk is cheap |
| [05:51:00] | coochan: | threat: bro I was using divX when you were still in short pants |
| [05:51:00] | thechris: | is there a way to add a user to a group without knowing what groups the user is currently in |
| [05:51:00] | threat: | coochan, :) |
| [05:51:00] | threat: | fair enough |
| [05:51:00] | rjune: | thechris: groupmod -A USER group |
| [05:51:00] | coochan: | h264 is the hot new codec now, get with it :) |
| [05:51:00] | coochan: | anyhow, I don't like the artifacts |
| [05:51:00] | wakko: | is h264 being used in mythtv now? |
| [05:52:00] | rjune: | I thought Theora is the hot new codec |
| [05:52:00] | coochan: | don't think so |
| [05:52:00] | threat: | so what is the best way to setup a dedicated mythtv box? |
| [05:52:00] | coochan: | rjune: nope |
| [05:52:00] | thechris: | rjune: there is no -A option |
| [05:52:00] | threat: | it will be used for playing movies from network |
| [05:52:00] | rjune: | coochan: I was poking our illustrius developer, he hates theora |
| [05:52:00] | coochan: | rjune: oh, trolling, eh? |
| [05:52:00] | rjune: | thechris: it's there as per man groupmod |
| [05:53:00] | threat: | should I purchase a DVD decoding card? |
| [05:53:00] | coochan: | frankly, I think even the quality of digital cable sucks ass |
| [05:53:00] | coochan: | stupid MPEG |
| [05:53:00] | coochan: | and dont' even talk to me about DVDs |
| [05:53:00] | threat: | hehe |
| [05:53:00] | coochan: | threat: dvd decoding card? |
| [05:53:00] | threat: | coochan, yeah, oh sorry, I mean decrypting card :) |
| [05:54:00] | coochan: | I'm pretty sure that's entirely unnecessary |
| [05:54:00] | coochan: | software does it pretty well |
| [05:54:00] | coochan: | the crypto on DVD is so weak |
| [05:54:00] | threat: | coochan, what programs can decrypt DVD under *n?x ? |
| [05:54:00] | coochan: | I have to laugh; last night they were like, oh, you don't want that DVD, it's region 2 |
| [05:54:00] | coochan: | threat: what program can't? |
| [05:54:00] | threat: | coochan, xine? |
| [05:54:00] | threat: | OSS :) |
| [05:54:00] | coochan: | I'm sure it can, but I ddon't use it |
| [05:54:00] | thechris: | rjune: it is not there as per man groupmod (maybe its in BSD?)... in anycase i think i can just modify /etc/groups |
| [05:55:00] | Agrajag-: | err yes it can, you need libdvdcss |
| [05:55:00] | threat: | what programs can? |
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| [05:55:00] | coochan: | my mplayer does great |
| [05:55:00] | threat: | can mythtv decrypt DVDs? |
| [05:55:00] | coochan: | I'm sure you can get a xine compiled with libdvdread |
| [05:55:00] | coochan: | or build one |
| [05:55:00] | rjune: | interesting, SLES9 version of groupmod has the -A option, fc4 version apparently does not |
| [05:55:00] | coochan: | if you can't maybe you don't deserve it anyhow |
| [05:55:00] | threat: | coochan, libdvdread is OSS? |
| [05:55:00] | smcnaught: | coochan: is it possible when at the Guide and click OK to make it go to the channel instead of asking to record? |
| [05:56:00] | thechris: | ok, that fixed it. just had to put mythtv into all the same groups mythuser was in. |
| [05:56:00] | coochan: | smcnaught: yes, I think there's a setting for that |
| [05:56:00] | threat: | coochan, I know nothing about how it all works :) the legailies of it and such |
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| [05:56:00] | smcnaught: | coochan: k.. I will research |
| [05:56:00] | smcnaught: | thechris: congrats |
| [05:56:00] | coochan: | threat: well, its OSS for those countries where the patent law is looser |
| [05:56:00] | coochan: | but IANAL |
| [05:57:00] | threat: | coochan, ok, so I can watch encrypted DVDs with libdvdread ? |
| [05:57:00] | thechris: | rjune: interesting. groupmod in gentoo also lacks a -A option. maybe its a SUSE thing. |
| [05:57:00] | rjune: | Could be |
| [05:57:00] | rjune: | it's a handy option |
| [05:57:00] | coochan: | repeating myself is boring, *wanders* |
| [05:58:00] | threat: | coochan, my bad, its just I always thought there was a huge legal issue with decrypting DVDs |
| [05:58:00] | rjune: | OSS is a crappy way to handle audio |
| [05:58:00] | coochan: | OSS like "open source software" or OSS like the thing obsoleted by alsa ? |
| [05:59:00] | coochan: | wierd that myth doesn't ship with alsa as default all the way thru |
| [05:59:00] | threat: | I was talking about Open Source Software |
| [05:59:00] | coochan: | threat: (that was directed to rjune) |
| [06:00:00] | rjune: | Open Sound System |
| [06:00:00] | Agrajag-: | libdvdcss2 is free software and most apps use it to read encrypted dvds |
| [06:01:00] | Agrajag-: | i know debian doesn't ship it due to legal issues, but that doesn't stop it being free |
| [06:01:00] | coochan: | right |
| [06:01:00] | coochan: | pity the paranoic thrashings of the media IP lawyers |
| [06:01:00] | threat: | ok |
| [06:02:00] | threat: | Agrajag-, oh, well libdvdread is in debian |
| [06:02:00] | threat: | Agrajag-, although it may be under non-free |
| [06:03:00] | coochan: | oh |
| [06:03:00] | coochan: | libdvdread uses libdvdcss |
| [06:03:00] | coochan: | it must dl load it at runtime |
| [06:04:00] | Agrajag-: | yep |
| [06:04:00] | coochan: | if you *promise* cross your heart that you're not vioalting the law, you can get it easily, e.g., from marriat |
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| [06:05:00] | threat: | coochan, oh |
| [06:06:00] | threat: | coochan, say, for example, I encrypt a DVD, then one day I loose the original iso and want to make a new iso from my encrypted DVD. Would it be legal for me to decrypt the DVD and store it in unencrypted form? |
| [06:07:00] | coochan: | IANAL, but I would think so |
| [06:07:00] | coochan: | it seems to me that i fyou purchase a DVD whether you stored it in decrypted form or not is your call |
| [06:08:00] | coochan: | anyhow, this is hardly the right forum for such legalities |
| [06:09:00] | threat: | coochan, indeed, where do you suggest I speak about this? #blood_sucking_leechers ? |
| [06:09:00] | coochan: | well, you can google up a FAQ I'm sure |
| [06:09:00] | threat: | oh yeah |
| [06:09:00] | coochan: | it's been heavily discussed and dissected |
| [06:09:00] | coochan: | or www.eff.org or something |
| [06:11:00] | threat: | hehe http://www.eff.org/legal/cases/att/ |
| [06:14:00] | mchou: | wow, that at&t case looks real interesting..... |
| [06:14:00] | achew22: | would someone be willing to help me with my sound card? or be willing to point me to a channel where someone will? |
| [06:14:00] | mchou: | wonder if it has legs |
| [06:15:00] | mchou: | achew22: what seems to be the issue? |
| [06:15:00] | achew22: | I don't even know where to start. it is usb and I don't know if its detected |
| [06:16:00] | mchou: | lsusb ought to tell ya |
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| [06:16:00] | achew22: | ooh its glowing now... thats a good sign |
| [06:16:00] | achew22: | okay it detected it |
| [06:16:00] | achew22: | should it just work? |
| [06:17:00] | mchou: | what's the brand name of the usb sound? |
| [06:17:00] | mchou: | brand/model |
| [06:18:00] | achew22: | Creative Technology, Ltd SoundBlaster MP3+ |
| [06:19:00] | mchou: | it probably should just work. |
| [06:19:00] | achew22: | okay... well i booted mythfrontend and I didn't get sound |
| [06:19:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [06:19:00] | achew22: | I have an idea about the problem though |
| [06:19:00] | mchou: | who cares if there is sound from myth? |
| [06:20:00] | achew22: | are you serious? |
| [06:20:00] | mchou: | you sould test sound by trying "play" or some such |
| [06:20:00] | mchou: | should* |
| [06:20:00] | mchou: | I cant be more serious |
| [06:20:00] | achew22: | okay |
| [06:20:00] | achew22: | i almost asked a very stupid question right there but stoped myself |
| [06:22:00] | mchou: | why the hell are you using usb sound anyways? |
| [06:22:00] | achew22: | it has optical out on it |
| [06:22:00] | mchou: | it sucks cycles big time from the cpu |
| [06:22:00] | achew22: | hrm... |
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| [06:22:00] | mchou: | so? there are pci sound cards and even mobos with optical |
| [06:23:00] | achew22: | but I already have this... |
| [06:23:00] | mchou: | they question was why did you even get it in the FIRST place :) |
| [06:25:00] | achew22: | it was a present from someone who doesn't know anything about computers |
| [06:25:00] | mchou: | ok, that's agood enough reason, I suppose :) |
| [06:25:00] | mchou: | but you should have exchanged it :) |
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| [06:28:00] | achew22: | lol |
| [06:28:00] | achew22: | mchou: what should I do, it doesn't seem to be working. |
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| [06:30:00] | rav3r: | so, loving the new .19 |
| [06:30:00] | rav3r: | as soon as i realised what "game players" was and got that working |
| [06:31:00] | coochan: | game players? |
| [06:31:00] | rav3r: | the menu |
| [06:31:00] | rav3r: | i couldn't find where to put the rom path |
| [06:31:00] | coochan: | still tryhing to build it properly, myself... lets seee, time to back up db and try again |
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| [06:31:00] | rav3r: | i used yum for everything |
| [06:32:00] | rav3r: | i can't figure out the building |
| [06:32:00] | rav3r: | anyone care to help me out with an ir blaster? |
| [06:32:00] | coochan: | I can try |
| [06:32:00] | rav3r: | i can't get it to work |
| [06:33:00] | coochan: | as long it's not a 0.19 specific issue |
| [06:33:00] | coochan: | is it one that goes form a serial port? |
| [06:33:00] | coochan: | s/form/from/ |
| [06:33:00] | rav3r: | yes |
| [06:33:00] | rav3r: | i tried to follow http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:GIhAO4QuV . . . lnk&cd=1 |
| [06:34:00] | rav3r: | the site has been down for days, that is google's cache |
| [06:35:00] | rav3r: | i got to 'change_chan.sh 12' and am getting nothing from the blaster |
| [06:35:00] | rav3r: | no signal at all |
| [06:35:00] | coochan: | is this to drive a settop box right? |
| [06:35:00] | rav3r: | yes |
| [06:35:00] | coochan: | mine is a MyTV one |
| [06:35:00] | coochan: | or a MyBlaster I guess it's called |
| [06:35:00] | rav3r: | MyTV? is it serial? |
| [06:36:00] | coochan: | yah |
| [06:36:00] | rav3r: | i bought mine from http://www.irblaster.info/ |
| [06:36:00] | coochan: | lets see |
| [06:36:00] | rav3r: | it's serial too |
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| [06:36:00] | achew22: | mchou: you still there? |
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| [06:37:00] | rav3r: | mythgame runs SOOO much faster now in .19 |
| [06:37:00] | coochan: | rav3r: you should kinda dimly see a light emitted on the device when you try to tell it to change channels |
| [06:37:00] | rav3r: | i don't know if it is bucause of .19 or what, but it wasn't playable before |
| [06:37:00] | achew22: | would someone be willing to help me with my sound card? or be willing to point me to a channel where someone will? |
| [06:38:00] | rav3r: | yes, i was checking that with my digital camera, got nothing |
| [06:38:00] | coochan: | with your digital camera? |
| [06:38:00] | coochan: | I don't follow... you should be able to see it with your plain sight |
| [06:38:00] | rav3r: | yes, to see ir |
| [06:38:00] | coochan: | huh |
| [06:39:00] | coochan: | why is lirc involved here anyhow? |
| [06:39:00] | coochan: | this guide is wierd |
| [06:39:00] | rav3r: | you can use a digital camera lcd screen to see ir flashes that your naked eye doesn't see |
| [06:39:00] | rav3r: | but, either way, there is no flash |
| [06:39:00] | coochan: | interesting |
| [06:39:00] | coochan: | ok, well, the guide is for a IR receiver as well as the blaster? |
| [06:40:00] | rav3r: | yes, my receiver is working though |
| [06:40:00] | rav3r: | that guide is supposed to let you use one instance of lirc or something |
| [06:40:00] | coochan: | um |
| [06:40:00] | rav3r: | i don't care what guide i use though, just what ever works |
| [06:41:00] | coochan: | well, for me, changing channels with the blaster, lirc has nothing to do with it |
| [06:41:00] | rav3r: | and i am lost |
| [06:41:00] | coochan: | it's just signals to the serial port which then get blasted out |
| [06:41:00] | rav3r: | ok, that guide had me copy my remote codes for my cable remote into the same file as the one for my mythtv remote |
| [06:41:00] | coochan: | so I think yuou're doing the wrong thing |
| [06:41:00] | rav3r: | ok |
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| [06:42:00] | coochan: | lets see |
| [06:42:00] | rav3r: | hehe |
| [06:42:00] | rav3r: | like i said, lost |
| [06:42:00] | coochan: | irsend is wrong if the device is a serial device |
| [06:42:00] | rav3r: | perhaps that is why that site has been down for so long, it's crap |
| [06:43:00] | rav3r: | ok |
| [06:44:00] | coochan: | hmm |
| [06:45:00] | coochan: | maybe you do need lirc |
| [06:45:00] | rav3r: | what about the whole "For COM1" and "For COM2" middle of the page? |
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| [06:46:00] | coochan: | well |
| [06:46:00] | rav3r: | that's where i wonder if i've done something wrong |
| [06:46:00] | coochan: | sorry... what i have is http://store.mytvstore.com/004.html |
| [06:46:00] | coochan: | it doesn't use lirc at all |
| [06:47:00] | coochan: | little more pricey than what you got |
| [06:47:00] | diff: | anyone using diskless frontend? |
| [06:47:00] | rav3r: | here's mine |
| [06:47:00] | rav3r: | http://www.irblaster.info/ |
| [06:47:00] | coochan: | yah |
| [06:47:00] | rav3r: | that site had one with a light |
| [06:48:00] | rav3r: | but i didn't get that one |
| [06:48:00] | rav3r: | seems like they should work simmiliar |
| [06:48:00] | coochan: | oy... |
| [06:49:00] | coochan: | I think my device has more smarts in it, and you don't need to use lirc to figure out the emitting part |
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| [06:49:00] | coochan: | I really think you do have to use a second lirc... |
| [06:49:00] | rav3r: | damn it all to heck |
| [06:49:00] | coochan: | did you try this guide too, linked from the vendor site: http://losdos.dyndns.org:8080/public/mythtv-i . . . ed_LIRC.html |
| [06:50:00] | rav3r: | i started to and got LOST |
| [06:50:00] | coochan: | oh? |
| [06:50:00] | coochan: | it seems pretty clear... |
| [06:50:00] | rav3r: | for one thing, i think i'm at a dissadvantage because i am on fedora |
| [06:50:00] | coochan: | it shouldn't really matter much |
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| [06:51:00] | rav3r: | like, when i do bzip2 i get an error |
| [06:51:00] | coochan: | why are you doing bzip2 ? |
| [06:51:00] | rav3r: | stage 1 |
| [06:51:00] | rav3r: | but i already have lirc working |
| [06:51:00] | coochan: | to unpakc lirc sources ? |
| [06:52:00] | coochan: | you need 1 lirc for your remote control (input *to* myth) and another (hacked) lirc for the output |
| [06:52:00] | coochan: | (driving the IR blaster) |
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| [06:53:00] | coochan: | rav3r: what is the box you're driving to change channels, btw? |
| [06:53:00] | CrazyP: | I am trying to setup mythtv atm. Under the Capture Card Setup menu I do not have anything for video device, how can I figure out what the device is? |
| [06:53:00] | coochan: | e.g., mine is Time-Warner digital cable, scientific atlanta |
| [06:53:00] | rav3r: | sa explorer 8000 |
| [06:53:00] | rav3r: | mine too |
| [06:53:00] | coochan: | ah |
| [06:53:00] | rav3r: | the dvr model |
| [06:53:00] | rav3r: | with the two tuners |
| [06:53:00] | coochan: | erm... for now you can also put the cable right into the card, if it takes BNC input, and tune there |
| [06:54:00] | rav3r: | BNC input? |
| [06:54:00] | coochan: | what I do is split the cable signal prior to it going to the cable box, and take the analog cable channels directly on one captgure cards, and all the channels via svideo from the SA settop box |
| [06:54:00] | coochan: | yah, BNC is what cable is |
| [06:54:00] | coochan: | the round cable with the wire poking out in the middle |
| [06:55:00] | rav3r: | coax? |
| [06:55:00] | coochan: | right |
| [06:55:00] | coochan: | coac |
| [06:55:00] | coochan: | coax |
| [06:55:00] | rav3r: | this is mine |
| [06:55:00] | rav3r: | http://www.timewarnercable.com/MediaLibrary/1 . . . %20Guide.pdf |
| [06:55:00] | coochan: | the hauppauge 350 for instance is "cable ready" and can recieve the un-crypted channels right from your cable |
| [06:56:00] | rav3r: | i have the 150 |
| [06:56:00] | coochan: | it should be cable ready I think... anyhow that might get you thru for now |
| [06:57:00] | coochan: | anyhow... |
| [06:57:00] | rav3r: | i know i can connect the cable to it, but how would it change chanals? |
| [06:57:00] | coochan: | so you couldn't extrace the lirc sources ? |
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| [06:57:00] | coochan: | rav3r: oh, for tghat you would use ptune I think it's called |
| [06:57:00] | coochan: | yah, ptune.pl |
| [06:58:00] | coochan: | I had to do this weird mapping from one channel to another |
| [06:58:00] | coochan: | (no fscking idea why) |
| [06:58:00] | rav3r: | but the coax, it's one way, right? |
| [06:58:00] | coochan: | definately |
| [06:58:00] | coochan: | don't expect too much of course :) |
| [06:58:00] | anxt: | i just installed ivtv-04.2 and now things aren't working, i deleted cards and readded in mythtv-setup |
| [06:58:00] | rav3r: | it just gets what ever chanel the box is on |
| [06:58:00] | coochan: | but I get the b'casted channels that way and a few more |
| [06:58:00] | coochan: | no |
| [06:59:00] | coochan: | it can tune to 1, 2, 4, 3, 5, etc... |
| [06:59:00] | rav3r: | ah, you may non-digital |
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| [06:59:00] | rav3r: | mean |
| [06:59:00] | rav3r: | with out the digital box |
| [06:59:00] | coochan: | for me, I use it to reduce recording contention, but I have 2 capture cards (and one time-warner cable) |
| [06:59:00] | coochan: | ah, yes |
| [06:59:00] | rav3r: | yes, i'm with you |
| [06:59:00] | coochan: | you use the sa box to tune the channel and the tuner in the hauppauge just isn't used |
| [07:00:00] | coochan: | if you're stuck on those isntructions I can help but you'd have to be specific on what is blocking |
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| [07:01:00] | rav3r: | ok, so i have lirc working now, and i need another instance of it, but do i have to do all in stage 1? or can i 'copy' the working one i have now? |
| [07:01:00] | coochan: | lets see |
| [07:02:00] | coochan: | if you have the lirc sources at the same version, you should be able to use that |
| [07:02:00] | coochan: | but you'll still need to hack it,... that's what myth-ledxmit.sh does |
| [07:03:00] | rav3r: | i think i have lircd 0.8.0 |
| [07:04:00] | coochan: | be careful! |
| [07:04:00] | coochan: | try it with 0.7.2.... |
| [07:05:00] | rav3r: | this is what happens |
| [07:05:00] | rav3r: | bzip2 -d *bz2 ; tar xf *tar |
| [07:05:00] | rav3r: | bzip2: lirc-0.8.0.tar.bz2 is not a bzip2 file. |
| [07:06:00] | coochan: | does this work: |
| [07:06:00] | coochan: | tar tjf lirc-0.8.0.tar.bz2 |
| [07:06:00] | coochan: | you don't need the bunzip step, modern tar works with bzip2 (the -j flag rather than -z) |
| [07:06:00] | rav3r: | bzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file. |
| [07:06:00] | rav3r: | tar: Child returned status 2 |
| [07:06:00] | rav3r: | tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors |
| [07:06:00] | coochan: | rav3r: try this: |
| [07:06:00] | coochan: | file lirc-0.8.0.tar.bz2 |
| [07:06:00] | coochan: | what does it say? |
| [07:06:00] | rav3r: | lirc-0.8.0.tar.bz2: HTML document text |
| [07:07:00] | coochan: | ah so |
| [07:07:00] | coochan: | believe it |
| [07:07:00] | rav3r: | but it should be 0.7.2 |
| [07:07:00] | rav3r: | right? |
| [07:07:00] | coochan: | right |
| [07:08:00] | coochan: | start with that wget dcommand there |
| [07:08:00] | rav3r: | perhaps i should remove myth-ledxmit |
| [07:08:00] | rav3r: | start over |
| [07:08:00] | coochan: | if you like |
| [07:09:00] | rav3r: | what is the rmdir for a directory not empty? |
| [07:09:00] | coochan: | 'rm -r <dir>' |
| [07:09:00] | rav3r: | i forget |
| [07:09:00] | coochan: | be very careful tho |
| [07:09:00] | rav3r: | as long as it's the right directory? |
| [07:09:00] | coochan: | xmms + imms is rocking out as my automated DJ! |
| [07:09:00] | coochan: | right |
| [07:10:00] | coochan: | 'rm -r /' will definately ruin your system completely |
| [07:10:00] | rav3r: | yuck |
| [07:10:00] | rav3r: | seems like there sould be a different way |
| [07:10:00] | rav3r: | but anyway |
| [07:10:00] | rav3r: | bzip2 -d *bz2 ; tar xf *tar, no errors! |
| [07:10:00] | coochan: | yay |
| [07:11:00] | coochan: | well, for the pussies (ahem) I mean non-techincal people, there are other file managers out there |
| [07:11:00] | coochan: | like nautilus or something |
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| [07:11:00] | Netslayer: | is mythtv .19 compatible with mysql 5? |
| [07:11:00] | rav3r: | lol |
| [07:11:00] | rav3r: | im a linux pussy, what can i say |
| [07:12:00] | coochan: | linux is the hole hawg: http://www.cryptonomicon.com/beginning.html |
| [07:13:00] | coochan: | yay! |
| [07:13:00] | coochan: | I think I'm finally up at 0.19 |
| [07:14:00] | coochan: | anyone want debian/sarge packages? |
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| [07:15:00] | coochan: | well,... I shouldn't offer.. the build of the plugins just failed |
| [07:15:00] | Netslayer: | is there any advantage for me to use mysql 5? |
| [07:15:00] | anxt: | it will give you headaches i bet |
| [07:15:00] | anxt: | i use 4.0.26 or something |
| [07:15:00] | Calroth: | last time i checked, there were some hassles involved in getting mysql 5 working |
| [07:15:00] | rav3r: | ok, i did ./myth-ledxmit.sh lirc-0.7.2 but not sure where to go next |
| [07:15:00] | Calroth: | i use the mysql 4.1 series and no problems |
| [07:16:00] | rav3r: | there were no errors |
| [07:16:00] | anxt: | i have qt 3.4 and 4 i need to make build look to qt3.4 |
| [07:16:00] | anxt: | about to build 0.19 |
| [07:16:00] | rav3r: | oh, i think i found it |
| [07:16:00] | coochan: | rav3r: did it run ok |
| [07:16:00] | coochan: | ? |
| [07:16:00] | opello: | rav3r: a tip: tar xjf foo.tar.bz2 |
| [07:16:00] | rav3r: | yes |
| [07:17:00] | rav3r: | ? |
| [07:17:00] | rav3r: | im about to "make install" |
| [07:17:00] | coochan: | opello: you're slow! |
| [07:17:00] | anxt: | how do you make qmake look for old qt only? |
| [07:18:00] | rav3r: | make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop. |
| [07:18:00] | opello: | coochan: for future reference if anything, heh |
| [07:18:00] | coochan: | rav3r: oops? |
| [07:18:00] | coochan: | rav3r: are you in the lirc-0.7.2 dir ? |
| [07:18:00] | rav3r: | it said to cd myth-ledxmit.WIP |
| [07:18:00] | coochan: | ah right |
| [07:18:00] | coochan: | you're in that dir? |
| [07:19:00] | rav3r: | yup |
| [07:19:00] | anxt: | maybe i will try gentoos myth0.19 for shits and giggles |
| [07:19:00] | coochan: | is there a file 'Makefile' in there? |
| [07:20:00] | rav3r: | i see Makefile.am and Makefile.in |
| [07:20:00] | coochan: | wah? |
| [07:21:00] | anxt: | automake? |
| [07:21:00] | rav3r: | acconfig.h config.guess data2setup.sh LIRCvars.txt setup.data |
| [07:21:00] | rav3r: | acinclude.m4 config.h.in depcomp ltmain.sh setup-driver.sh |
| [07:21:00] | rav3r: | aclocal.m4 config.log doc Makefile.am setup.sh |
| [07:21:00] | rav3r: | ANNOUNCE config.sub drivers Makefile.in stamp-h.in |
| [07:21:00] | rav3r: | AUTHORS configure INSTALL missing TODO |
| [07:21:00] | rav3r: | ChangeLog configure.in install-sh mkinstalldirs tools |
| [07:21:00] | rav3r: | compile contrib ledxmitfiles.txt NEWS |
| [07:21:00] | rav3r: | confdefs.h COPYING libtool README |
| [07:21:00] | rav3r: | config.cache daemons lircvars.txt remotes |
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| [07:21:00] | coochan: | yet myth-ledxmit.sh runs autoconf |
| [07:21:00] | opello: | geez :/ |
| [07:21:00] | opello: | did you ./configure first? |
| [07:21:00] | coochan: | so you should have ./configure |
| [07:21:00] | coochan: | er rather Makefile |
| [07:22:00] | rav3r: | i did ./myth-ledxmit.sh lirc-0.7.2 |
| [07:22:00] | coochan: | rav3r: rerun myth-ledxmit.sh and paste the results... |
| [07:22:00] | coochan: | to http://pastebin.ca/ |
| [07:22:00] | coochan: | don't spam the channel here |
| [07:23:00] | rav3r: | sorry about that |
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| [07:24:00] | coochan: | np |
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| [07:24:00] | anxt: | somethings off with this liquor |
| [07:24:00] | anxt: | that is a brand of vodka i won't get again |
| [07:25:00] | achew22: | filter it |
| [07:25:00] | anxt: | i am, with my liver |
| [07:25:00] | achew22: | lol |
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| [07:25:00] | rav3r: | http://pastebin.ca/42187 |
| [07:25:00] | achew22: | http://www.elephantstaircase.com/wiki/index.p . . . ilteredVodka |
| [07:26:00] | rav3r: | just noticed *** you need to have the Linux kernel source installed |
| [07:26:00] | rav3r: | for this driver |
| [07:26:00] | coochan: | hup? |
| [07:26:00] | coochan: | ah |
| [07:26:00] | rav3r: | lord |
| [07:26:00] | rav3r: | how do i got about that? |
| [07:27:00] | coochan: | kernel-headers package should work |
| [07:27:00] | coochan: | it must match your running kernel |
| [07:27:00] | anxt: | i have been too cheap to buy stoli latelyt |
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| [07:27:00] | rav3r: | please tell me yum will work :) |
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| [07:27:00] | coochan: | anxt: siipping stoli |
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| [07:27:00] | coochan: | rav3r: no idea, what is yum ? |
| [07:27:00] | coochan: | erm actually |
| [07:27:00] | coochan: | makers mark |
| [07:27:00] | coochan: | I think it's starting to tell :) |
| [07:27:00] | rav3r: | yum is a wonderful think that i use in fedora to install packages |
| [07:28:00] | anxt: | this qt 3 and 4 thing is pissing me off |
| [07:28:00] | coochan: | oh, that's redhat trying to be more like debian right? |
| [07:28:00] | anxt: | i wanna keep qt4 for an app i am deving |
| [07:28:00] | coochan: | anxt: is there an autoconf arg for it? |
| [07:28:00] | coochan: | anxt: or a CFLAGS setting? |
| [07:28:00] | rav3r: | i don't know debian |
| [07:28:00] | anxt: | well qt doesn't use autoconf |
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| [07:28:00] | achew22: | how do you know what port your serial ir receiver is on? |
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| [07:28:00] | rav3r: | so far, redhat and fedora is all i know |
| [07:28:00] | coochan: | man, jane fonda was cute back in the day |
| [07:29:00] | rav3r: | hmmm, yum install kernel-headers didn't do it |
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| [07:30:00] | coochan: | well, I don't know the right name |
| [07:30:00] | anxt: | too point libs searched |
| [07:30:00] | rav3r: | im yum searching now |
| [07:30:00] | coochan: | in debian , I'd do 'uname -r' to get hte current kernel running |
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| [07:30:00] | coochan: | and then 'apt-get install kernel-headers-2.6.15' or whatever |
| [07:30:00] | rav3r: | yea, that workes |
| [07:31:00] | rav3r: | uname -r |
| [07:31:00] | anxt: | for whatever reason i think i gotta checkout a new svn |
| [07:31:00] | euphobot: | rav3r, do you have fedora? what version? |
| [07:31:00] | rav3r: | 2.6.15–1.1831_FC4 |
| [07:31:00] | euphobot: | yum will install mythtv |
| [07:31:00] | coochan: | woah |
| [07:31:00] | coochan: | aacdecoder.cpp:257: error: 'struct faacDecConfiguration' has no member named ' |
| [07:31:00] | coochan: | dontUpSampleImplicitSBR' |
| [07:32:00] | coochan: | the CR there seems wierd |
| [07:32:00] | anxt: | no biggie |
| [07:32:00] | anxt: | take out aac |
| [07:32:00] | rav3r: | trying yum install kernel-headers-2.6.15–1.1831_FC4 |
| [07:32:00] | rav3r: | yum seems to be what fedora 4 is using |
| [07:32:00] | rav3r: | apt-get doesn't seem to work at all |
| [07:32:00] | euphobot: | try |
| [07:32:00] | rav3r: | yum install kernel-headers-2.6.15–1.1831_FC4 says No Match for argument |
| [07:33:00] | euphobot: | yum install mythtv-suite |
| [07:33:00] | rav3r: | i have mythtv |
| [07:33:00] | achew22: | will someone help me with lirc |
| [07:33:00] | anxt: | yum install portage :) |
| [07:33:00] | euphobot: | sorry what are you missing |
| [07:33:00] | rav3r: | im trying to get this lirc thing to work |
| [07:33:00] | anxt: | i can a little with lirc |
| [07:33:00] | anxt: | only a little |
| [07:33:00] | rav3r: | trying to get an ir blaster to work |
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| [07:33:00] | anxt: | serial? |
| [07:34:00] | euphobot: | lircd is a service. is it started? |
| [07:34:00] | coochan: | lirc lirc lirc |
| [07:34:00] | rav3r: | yes |
| [07:34:00] | achew22: | okay... anxt, I am using this as my tutoral http://hyams.webhop.net/mythtv/myth_ubuntu.html |
| [07:34:00] | rav3r: | yes, serial |
| [07:34:00] | rav3r: | and the remote works fine |
| [07:34:00] | achew22: | its section 7 |
| [07:34:00] | rav3r: | for controlling myth |
| [07:34:00] | euphobot: | then your problem is...? |
| [07:34:00] | coochan: | rav3r is trying to get a 2nd lirc running to run his irblaster (irblaster.info) |
| [07:35:00] | rav3r: | now i am trying to follow http://losdos.dyndns.org:8080/public/mythtv-i . . . ed_LIRC.html to get the blaster to work |
| [07:35:00] | achew22: | I have 3 ways of doing this, I have a 250/150 and I have a serial ir receiver too |
| [07:35:00] | rav3r: | im up for anything |
| [07:35:00] | rav3r: | pulling my hair out |
| [07:36:00] | achew22: | microwave a cd. thats what I do |
| [07:36:00] | achew22: | or fireworks someones house who i dont like |
| [07:36:00] | rav3r: | ok.. |
| [07:36:00] | achew22: | just a sugestion though |
| [07:36:00] | anxt: | microwave cd is cool |
| [07:37:00] | achew22: | you could watch ice dancing... |
| [07:37:00] | anxt: | i lean towards solvent abuse myself |
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| [07:37:00] | achew22: | its on nbc right now... its cool and I don't care if you make fun of me |
| [07:37:00] | anxt: | preferabnly gl00 |
| [07:37:00] | achew22: | gl00 == death; |
| [07:37:00] | anxt: | the chiqz are hawt |
| [07:37:00] | euphobot: | is this a home built ir relay/transmitter you are trying? |
| [07:37:00] | achew22: | euphobot: who is that pointed at? |
| [07:38:00] | rav3r: | i got it from irblaster.info |
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| [07:38:00] | coochan: | in lirc 0.8.0 does it still need a hacked 2nd instance if you're running one lirc for remote/receive and another for xmit ? |
| [07:38:00] | anxt: | aww crap i think my dog ate my weed again |
| [07:39:00] | achew22: | what?! |
| [07:39:00] | anxt: | i hate the big golden lummox |
| [07:39:00] | coochan: | rav3r is blocked compiling lirc (hacked) due to missing kernel headers |
| [07:39:00] | coochan: | anxt: dude... |
| [07:39:00] | coochan: | anxt: keep it in the fridge |
| [07:39:00] | anxt: | i just left it out on my coffetable |
| [07:39:00] | achew22: | dude anxt not cool (your in the us) and why is it where your weed? why can the dog get it |
| [07:39:00] | coochan: | or invite me over and I'll eat it all |
| [07:39:00] | anxt: | i am home alone, only me and him and it is gone |
| [07:39:00] | anxt: | *shrug* |
| [07:39:00] | coochan: | you have your stoli tho |
| [07:39:00] | anxt: | oh well |
| [07:40:00] | achew22: | tell him to give it back or you'll nuder him |
| [07:40:00] | anxt: | no i wish i had stoli i have welfare vodka |
| [07:40:00] | coochan: | nuder is diff from neuter |
| [07:40:00] | euphobot: | trying to confirm that it is a transmiter |
| [07:40:00] | ** coochan lol ** | |
| [07:40:00] | coochan: | "welfare vodka" |
| [07:40:00] | achew22: | lol |
| [07:40:00] | rav3r: | it is a serial transmitter |
| [07:40:00] | coochan: | anxt: I'll invite you over for prissy vodka |
| [07:40:00] | coochan: | I have gin too |
| [07:40:00] | anxt: | gin is aight |
| [07:40:00] | rav3r: | http://www.irblaster.info/ |
| [07:40:00] | coochan: | quality — bombay sapphire |
| [07:40:00] | achew22: | dude seriously http://www.elephantstaircase.com/wiki/index.p . . . ilteredVodka |
| [07:41:00] | achew22: | coochan: is it victory gin? |
| [07:41:00] | anxt: | i find i solve problmes beeter on comp when i have a drink or three |
| [07:41:00] | euphobot: | got it |
| [07:41:00] | coochan: | no, I always stock quality! |
| [07:41:00] | anxt: | cuase i relax, and slow down |
| [07:41:00] | achew22: | i'm glad |
| [07:41:00] | coochan: | anxt: well, you get mad less |
| [07:41:00] | anxt: | solaris 10 burnt |
| [07:41:00] | anxt: | yay |
| [07:41:00] | coochan: | achew22: that's icky |
| [07:41:00] | coochan: | achew22: filtering vodka? |
| [07:42:00] | anxt: | i had no dma on my htpc, i could figure out why burns were 1.6x |
| [07:42:00] | achew22: | no it aint |
| [07:42:00] | achew22: | its really good |
| [07:42:00] | achew22: | i'm poor and < 21 so I get shitty vodka |
| [07:42:00] | coochan: | for you, is good vodka the vodka that has no taste, like kettle one ? |
| [07:42:00] | achew22: | my weed is in a fireproof safe thingy that I got at target ironicly |
| [07:42:00] | anxt: | well yeah |
| [07:42:00] | coochan: | blah |
| [07:43:00] | euphobot: | so you already have the lirc part ( and half working too |
| [07:43:00] | coochan: | but don't listen to me, I think anyone who drinks cocktails is a pussy who just doesn't like the taste of alcohol |
| [07:43:00] | achew22: | i like schnopps |
| [07:43:00] | coochan: | unless, of course, it's the heat of summer and you're drinking a cool gin-n-tonic or somethig icy |
| [07:43:00] | coochan: | schapps ? |
| [07:43:00] | laga: | 'schnaps' :) |
| [07:44:00] | achew22: | indeed |
| [07:44:00] | coochan: | I never liked schnaps (or whatever) until I had some recently from a austrian home recipe |
| [07:44:00] | anxt: | cognac is the cats ass |
| [07:44:00] | rav3r: | ok, kernel-smp-devel-2.6.15–1.1831_1.rhfc4.cubbi_swsusp2.x86_64.rpm "This package provides kernel headers and makefiles sufficient to build modules |
| [07:44:00] | rav3r: | against the SMP kernel |
| [07:44:00] | rav3r: | " |
| [07:44:00] | anxt: | sneaks up on you though |
| [07:44:00] | rav3r: | that what i need? |
| [07:44:00] | coochan: | most of the schnaps I had had up til then was kinda like yaegermeister or some other nasty shit |
| [07:44:00] | coochan: | rav3r: are you running that kernel? |
| [07:45:00] | rav3r: | what is smp kernal? |
| [07:45:00] | anxt: | i would rahter eat my own vomit with a fork then drink yag |
| [07:45:00] | coochan: | anxt: yay! |
| [07:45:00] | anxt: | amazing what the zombies will buy |
| [07:45:00] | coochan: | and frat boys |
| [07:45:00] | coochan: | (I guess they are walking corpses too) |
| [07:45:00] | anxt: | same with corona, what sick garbage |
| [07:45:00] | rav3r: | what if i just do yum install kernel-devel? |
| [07:45:00] | coochan: | my drink nowadays is good tequilla |
| [07:46:00] | coochan: | e.g. tesoro |
| [07:46:00] | coochan: | patron is overrated and sweet, blah |
| [07:46:00] | laga: | beer > * |
| [07:46:00] | coochan: | beer is good too, can be anyhow |
| [07:46:00] | achew22: | beer is only good for drinking games |
| [07:46:00] | coochan: | no no no! |
| [07:47:00] | coochan: | go to the UK and have beer done right, you might change your mind |
| [07:47:00] | laga: | s/UK/germany/ ;) |
| [07:47:00] | coochan: | basement cask-drawn, no carbination |
| [07:47:00] | rav3r: | do i have to reboot after getting the kernel headers? |
| [07:47:00] | coochan: | ok, germany, sure, but they get wierd — I mean, hot beer ? |
| [07:47:00] | coochan: | rav3r: nope |
| [07:48:00] | anxt: | well 1st bottle > /dev/anxt |
| [07:48:00] | laga: | coochan: huh? hot beer? never heard of that one. do you mean mulled wine? ;) |
| [07:48:00] | euphobot: | rav3r: I dont see where it is the kernel source you need, rather the lirc src |
| [07:48:00] | anxt: | retuurn 0 |
| [07:48:00] | coochan: | laga: nein! |
| [07:48:00] | coochan: | heisse-bier |
| [07:48:00] | coochan: | (sp?) |
| [07:48:00] | anxt: | now onto welfare vodka, v0.2 |
| [07:48:00] | coochan: | hast du neimals gehoert? |
| [07:48:00] | laga: | wow, weird. never heard of such a such. though it could be tasty *drool* |
| [07:48:00] | rav3r: | trying the .sh again :) |
| [07:48:00] | coochan: | lol |
| [07:48:00] | laga: | s/such/thing/ |
| [07:49:00] | coochan: | laga == lager ? |
| [07:49:00] | rav3r: | looking better |
| [07:49:00] | rav3r: | taking longer |
| [07:49:00] | coochan: | I'm listening to some deutchliche rock right now, odd |
| [07:49:00] | coochan: | tocotronic! |
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| [07:50:00] | laga: | coochan: nope ;) |
| [07:50:00] | coochan: | I need to find more good german indie rock |
| [07:50:00] | laga: | coochan: klee? tomte? maybe stuff like that might be worth googling, dunno |
| [07:51:00] | coochan: | I wil try |
| [07:51:00] | rav3r: | ok, the make file thing gave me this http://pastebin.ca/42189 |
| [07:51:00] | anxt: | wow season one prioson break is about 200mb to large for dvd |
| [07:51:00] | anxt: | crap |
| [07:52:00] | anxt: | 450GB and no space left |
| [07:52:00] | rav3r: | i see "error" in there a few times, is that bad? |
| [07:52:00] | coochan: | data expands to be 110% the size of available disk |
| [07:52:00] | coochan: | rav3r: sounds bad, yes |
| [07:53:00] | coochan: | rav3r: update the pastebin address with the new log, eh? |
| [07:53:00] | euphobot: | libtool: unrecognized option `--tag=CC' |
| [07:54:00] | euphobot: | are you using gcc4 or 3 |
| [07:54:00] | euphobot: | gcc --version |
| [07:54:00] | anxt: | i am skeered of gcc 4.0 |
| [07:54:00] | anxt: | running gentoo |
| [07:55:00] | euphobot: | it will be ok |
| [07:55:00] | coochan: | phear! |
| [07:55:00] | euphobot: | kalm |
| [07:56:00] | anxt: | when i see glibc or gcc in my updates i wince |
| [07:56:00] | anxt: | metro by system of a down is such an awesome tune |
| [07:56:00] | rav3r: | my log doesn't go back far enough, this is what i got |
| [07:56:00] | rav3r: | http://pastebin.ca/42190 |
| [07:56:00] | euphobot: | anxt: how does gentoo manage updates? |
| [07:57:00] | achew22: | be affraid of gcc 4.0 |
| [07:57:00] | achew22: | i had to reinstall ubuntu because I accidentaly upgraded |
| [07:57:00] | anxt: | gentoo will slot the compiler, i have three or four environments |
| [07:57:00] | anxt: | i can switch to several gcc |
| [07:57:00] | anxt: | it is not really a big deal |
| [07:58:00] | anxt: | i think i even have a 2.95 lying around |
| [07:58:00] | euphobot: | your problem is at the end. in the libtool. specifically that tag=cc |
| [07:58:00] | rav3r: | thanks for all the help so far, i have to get to bed before i blow something up |
| [07:59:00] | rav3r: | hope to see you on again |
| [07:59:00] | rav3r: | nite all |
| [08:00:00] | euphobot: | fedora also permits multiple gcc version — to switch use slink, environ, or just change the makefile |
| [08:00:00] | euphobot: | bye |
| [08:01:00] | achew22: | is there a way to make kde load mythtv on startup? |
| [08:01:00] | anxt: | yeah easy |
| [08:01:00] | achew22: | oops on login |
| [08:01:00] | anxt: | yep still easy |
| [08:02:00] | anxt: | i forget though, i think ytou put in in Autostart or some shit |
| [08:02:00] | achew22: | okay... thankyuo |
| [08:03:00] | achew22: | /home/user/.kde/Autostart |
| [08:04:00] | anxt: | yay i remembered something i am ereet |
| [08:04:00] | CrazyP: | how can i determine if my tv tuner card is noticed in linux? |
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| [08:04:00] | anxt: | depends what noticed means |
| [08:04:00] | anxt: | first lspci -v |
| [08:05:00] | anxt: | then dmesg |
| [08:05:00] | CrazyP: | well, its noticed.. guess thats bad info |
| [08:05:00] | CrazyP: | bad wording i mean |
| [08:05:00] | coochan: | rav3r: that actually looks pretty good |
| [08:05:00] | CrazyP: | Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 <-- lspci |
| [08:05:00] | coochan: | rav3r: try make install next |
| [08:05:00] | anxt: | i gotta go pee and smoke bbiam |
| [08:05:00] | CrazyP: | anxt, do i need to do anything special? |
| [08:06:00] | CrazyP: | what should i look for in dmesg? |
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| [08:08:00] | CrazyP: | are there any special drivers needed? I've never done this before... |
| [08:08:00] | anxt: | pogey time |
| [08:08:00] | anxt: | just a min |
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| [08:13:00] | anxt: | nice i just made 400$ |
| [08:13:00] | CrazyP: | nice. |
| [08:13:00] | CrazyP: | how so? |
| [08:13:00] | anxt: | ok now |
| [08:13:00] | anxt: | on the phone, calling in my "unemplyment" |
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| [08:13:00] | CrazyP: | hah nice. |
| [08:13:00] | anxt: | i love .ca govt |
| [08:13:00] | anxt: | ok what kind of card do you have? |
| [08:13:00] | CrazyP: | yeah, free medical too eh |
| [08:13:00] | CrazyP: | i got a hap pvr 250 |
| [08:14:00] | anxt: | so you need ivtv driver |
| [08:14:00] | CrazyP: | and i'm running debian etch |
| [08:15:00] | CrazyP: | okay, looks like i gotta grab source, not seeing it in apt ... |
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| [08:15:00] | anxt: | ivtvdriver.org |
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| [08:15:00] | CrazyP: | cool. was googling for it |
| [08:16:00] | anxt: | didja try apt-get ivtv? |
| [08:16:00] | anxt: | apt-get install |
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| [08:16:00] | CrazyP: | yeah, |
| [08:16:00] | CrazyP: | Building dependency tree... Done |
| [08:16:00] | CrazyP: | E: Couldn't find package ivtv |
| [08:16:00] | anxt: | debian can lick my gooch |
| [08:17:00] | anxt: | actually computers and all oses can lick my gooch |
| [08:17:00] | anxt: | i hate computers |
| [08:17:00] | anxt: | :P |
| [08:17:00] | CrazyP: | well i am using etch, which is still pretty much -testing so maybe later it'll be |
| [08:17:00] | CrazyP: | hehe |
| [08:17:00] | anxt: | debian unstable is like 2 years behind everyone else |
| [08:17:00] | anxt: | so conservative, but stable yes |
| [08:18:00] | CrazyP: | Well, etch actually has kde 3.5 in it |
| [08:18:00] | CrazyP: | that blew me away |
| [08:18:00] | anxt: | yeah for deb that is odd |
| [08:18:00] | CrazyP: | damnit, looks like custom kernel time... |
| [08:18:00] | anxt: | i use fluxbox |
| [08:19:00] | CrazyP: | yeah, i like fluxbox too |
| [08:19:00] | CrazyP: | but i got a fast enough system can run kde heh |
| [08:19:00] | anxt: | me too |
| [08:20:00] | anxt: | and sitrubuted compiling, a 3000 a 2000 an 3000 |
| [08:20:00] | anxt: | i retired the 1200 |
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| [08:20:00] | CrazyP: | heh nice. |
| [08:20:00] | anxt: | openmosix was nothing but problems |
| [08:20:00] | CrazyP: | so yea ivtv wont compile for me ... think i need a custom kernel ... |
| [08:20:00] | Nitro: | Hello. I have been following the guide http://www.wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php to get mythtv setup via Fedora Core 4. I am up to the end of the section getting the PVR-150 setup correctly |
| [08:21:00] | anxt: | if i go to israel i am gonna go hunt down that j00 and bring him a bagel laced with cyanide |
| [08:21:00] | Nitro: | I can capture fine, but when I playback my sound is very very low |
| [08:21:00] | anxt: | :) |
| [08:21:00] | CrazyP: | haha anxt |
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| [08:21:00] | Nitro: | and it is only coming out my right speaker |
| [08:21:00] | anxt: | btw i am j00 |
| [08:21:00] | anxt: | partial anyway |
| [08:21:00] | Nitro: | I am using digial out to my amp |
| [08:21:00] | Nitro: | Via an audigy 2 |
| [08:21:00] | Nitro: | Anyone have any suggestions? |
| [08:21:00] | Nitro: | hm |
| [08:21:00] | Nitro: | actually, I think I thought of something |
| [08:22:00] | CrazyP: | anxt, me too :) |
| [08:22:00] | Nitro: | I can view it on my machine that I know works |
| [08:22:00] | anxt: | that is neat |
| [08:22:00] | Nitro: | and if it gets the same problem, then I know it's the card |
| [08:22:00] | anxt: | when typing on irc helps tyou think |
| [08:22:00] | anxt: | multiplayer notepad |
| [08:22:00] | Nitro: | how do you setup a windows share on fedora core 4 |
| [08:22:00] | anxt: | with smb.conf |
| [08:23:00] | CrazyP: | anxt, once i get ivtv going, shouldn't be any troubles yeah? |
| [08:23:00] | anxt: | prolly not |
| [08:23:00] | anxt: | works well for me |
| [08:23:00] | CrazyP: | nice.. time to see if making custom kernel in debian breaks it :P |
| [08:23:00] | anxt: | no it wont |
| [08:23:00] | anxt: | custom kerenel is a joke |
| [08:24:00] | anxt: | make sure to leave ext2 on though :) |
| [08:24:00] | CrazyP: | well, ivtv wont compile, not sure why not... |
| [08:24:00] | CrazyP: | make[2]: *** No rule to make target `modules'. Stop. |
| [08:24:00] | CrazyP: | thats what i get... |
| [08:24:00] | anxt: | umm |
| [08:24:00] | anxt: | didja cd into driver? |
| [08:25:00] | anxt: | look for a "Makefile" |
| [08:25:00] | CrazyP: | yeah, i see the makefile |
| [08:25:00] | anxt: | and it is not make modules |
| [08:25:00] | anxt: | it is make |
| [08:25:00] | anxt: | make install |
| [08:25:00] | CrazyP: | Yeah. I read the install file once it didn't work ehhe |
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| [08:27:00] | anxt: | shit i tihkn i had a heart event |
| [08:28:00] | Nitro: | hm |
| [08:28:00] | anxt: | time for a msoke |
| [08:28:00] | Nitro: | So I get the same noise on my windows machine as well as my linux machine |
| [08:28:00] | Nitro: | so at least I know my linux machine is playing back properly |
| [08:28:00] | Nitro: | but why is it recording odd |
| [08:28:00] | Nitro: | I'm uploading a sample now for you to view |
| [08:29:00] | Nitro: | http://enos.ehpg.net/~nitro/test_capture.avi |
| [08:29:00] | Nitro: | notice the low sound |
| [08:30:00] | achew22: | how do you autologin through kde? |
| [08:32:00] | anxt: | svn co http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/trunk/mythplugins |
| [08:32:00] | anxt: | err |
| [08:32:00] | achew22: | lol |
| [08:32:00] | anxt: | disregard thatt |
| [08:32:00] | achew22: | anxt you know how to autlogin through kde |
| [08:32:00] | achew22: | auto* |
| [08:33:00] | CrazyP: | anxt, what distro you run? |
| [08:33:00] | anxt: | i use gentoo |
| [08:33:00] | achew22: | he runs gentoo |
| [08:33:00] | anxt: | autologin, ie not passwd or login enetered? |
| [08:33:00] | anxt: | prtolly look at kdm config files |
| [08:34:00] | achew22: | in /etc/kde.conf? |
| [08:34:00] | anxt: | maybe, just start looking around |
| [08:34:00] | anxt: | you will find it |
| [08:34:00] | CrazyP: | yeah, i have gentoo on a couple boxes... |
| [08:37:00] | Netslayer: | go to kcontrol |
| [08:38:00] | Netslayer: | user accounts/login section and you can set that up |
| [08:38:00] | achew22: | i have kubuntu it doesn't have kcontrol to my knowlege |
| [08:39:00] | CrazyP: | anxt, i'm getting this error now: ivtv0: unable to open firmware v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw |
| [08:39:00] | anxt: | qgood |
| [08:39:00] | Netslayer: | achew22, yes it does |
| [08:39:00] | anxt: | that is great progress |
| [08:39:00] | CrazyP: | anxt, yeah what fw do i need heh? |
| [08:39:00] | anxt: | you need to put the firmware in hotplug dir |
| [08:39:00] | anxt: | it it on the wiki |
| [08:39:00] | CrazyP: | ah ok just found it |
| [08:40:00] | anxt: | http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Firmware |
| [08:40:00] | CrazyP: | found a wiki on there that says how to install ivtv, so just followed those steps... quick and easy really |
| [08:41:00] | anxt: | i EXPECT cyber if it works |
| [08:41:00] | CrazyP: | oh, you'll get cyber :P |
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| [08:41:00] | anxt: | lmao |
| [08:41:00] | anxt: | muahahaha |
| [08:43:00] | anxt: | i am pumped i can fire of dvd's in my htpc with my welfare burner lg |
| [08:43:00] | anxt: | i love lg burners |
| [08:43:00] | coochan: | blah, stupid mythweb |
| [08:43:00] | anxt: | nothing but love so far |
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| [08:43:00] | anxt: | mythweb has always fucked up for me |
| [08:43:00] | anxt: | i would disable it in the config |
| [08:44:00] | Netslayer: | it always kill the backend if you play with it too much from my experience |
| [08:44:00] | coochan: | no nothing like that... |
| [08:44:00] | coochan: | its claiming the db config is wrong, but it's right |
| [08:44:00] | coochan: | aftetr upgrade to 0.19 |
| [08:45:00] | anxt: | uhh i was stupid |
| [08:45:00] | anxt: | but Netslayer i noticed that too, it would crash the backend |
| [08:45:00] | Netslayer: | oh ya.. i haven't spent time on figuring out why mine says that as well |
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| [08:46:00] | coochan: | hmm, mod_env perhaps |
| [08:46:00] | anxt: | time to smoke some weed |
| [08:46:00] | Juski: | so neither of you have read the .htaccess file that's now in the mythweb directory eh? |
| [08:46:00] | coochan: | anxt: I thought the dog ate it? |
| [08:46:00] | coochan: | Juski: I did read that |
| [08:46:00] | anxt: | he did |
| [08:47:00] | coochan: | I set the variables too |
| [08:47:00] | anxt: | i had some leftovers |
| [08:47:00] | coochan: | Juski: so, you didn't really read what I said, did you? |
| [08:47:00] | anxt: | the dog look s quite content |
| [08:47:00] | anxt: | but i bought him to warm my feet, and he is one the otheer side of the room |
| [08:47:00] | coochan: | don't smoke the dog |
| [08:47:00] | anxt: | i should rma the dog |
| [08:48:00] | coochan: | hmm, mod_env, mod_env |
| [08:48:00] | Netslayer: | coochan, trying to say something |
| [08:48:00] | coochan: | seems like that is gone in apache2 |
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| [08:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ok interesting issue |
| [08:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | perhaps one of you has experience and can advise |
| [08:49:00] | coochan: | so, in fact, the documetation only covers obsolete apache? |
| [08:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | does anybody know why deinterlace works on 32bit but not 64bit? |
| [08:50:00] | Chicago: | SlicerDicer: did deinterlace work for you on 64bit on v18? which version are you using? |
| [08:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | v18 |
| [08:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I havent gone to 19 yet |
| [08:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | takes alot of effort on my part to switch it |
| [08:50:00] | coochan: | blah |
| [08:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | were talking a ton of computers haha |
| [08:51:00] | coochan: | I'm starting to get a bad opinion of the mythweb maintainer |
| [08:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | why? |
| [08:51:00] | anxt: | my leftoivers are better than simba the golden retriever ate |
| [08:51:00] | Juski: | coochan: there's nothing wrong with mythweb |
| [08:51:00] | coochan: | SlicerDicer-: read scrollback |
| [08:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | coochan: mythweb just worked for me |
| [08:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no issues |
| [08:51:00] | Chicago: | SlicerDicer: I'm having transition issues w/ v19. |
| [08:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ohh 19 |
| [08:51:00] | Juski: | it's a problem with the chair/keyboard interface |
| [08:51:00] | coochan: | so you assume |
| [08:52:00] | Juski: | no, I don't assume. I know. Got 0.19 working just fine here |
| [08:52:00] | coochan: | I got unnecessarily pebcaced |
| [08:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Juski: alot is ;-) |
| [08:52:00] | Chicago: | coochan: which fixme's did you find in mythweb? |
| [08:52:00] | coochan: | Juski: which version of apache ? |
| [08:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hell I am guilty of it myself and I say well shit that was a pebkac whenever I do :) |
| [08:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am not beyond it haha |
| [08:52:00] | Juski: | apache2 |
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| [08:53:00] | coochan: | well, tell me, what did I do wrong if the htaccess is configured properly but it still says its not? |
| [08:53:00] | coochan: | and there's no apache error log here at all |
| [08:53:00] | coochan: | it says to enable mod_env but there's no such thing — pretty clear documentation bug ? |
| [08:53:00] | coochan: | or am I missing something obvious |
| [08:53:00] | CrazyP: | anxt, do i need to do anything else once i put the fw in the hotplug dir? Or should I be good to go? |
| [08:53:00] | Juski: | do you have mod_rewrite enabled? |
| [08:53:00] | coochan: | yup |
| [08:53:00] | Chicago: | coochan: ya know, I had that same problem and never fixed it... so I just took it down. I never needed .htacces on my apache until mythweb. |
| [08:54:00] | anxt: | make sure hotplug is running |
| [08:54:00] | anxt: | other than that it should work |
| [08:54:00] | coochan: | I'm very familiar with htaccess |
| [08:54:00] | Juski: | okay... did you have an .htaccess file in the mythweb directory already? |
| [08:54:00] | coochan: | yup, it's a symlink tho |
| [08:54:00] | Juski: | the installer won't write the new one if there's already one there, see |
| [08:55:00] | coochan: | um, I don't think that's the problem |
| [08:55:00] | Juski: | your .htaccess file is a symlink? mine's a proper file here |
| [08:55:00] | coochan: | let me check the version from the pkg to make sure |
| [08:56:00] | coochan: | Juski: well, you're running it in a different context |
| [08:56:00] | Juski: | how do you mean? |
| [08:56:00] | CrazyP: | anxt, yeah, i finally have a /dev/video* |
| [08:56:00] | coochan: | debian pkg |
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| [08:56:00] | coochan: | its definately the file installed from the pkg here, not some old file |
| [08:56:00] | CrazyP: | anxt, but when I go to watch live tv i get nothing |
| [08:56:00] | coochan: | I cleared out the dir and reinstalled to be sure |
| [08:57:00] | Juski: | why would the debian packager make the file symlinked to somewhere else? strange |
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| [08:57:00] | anxt: | i am back |
| [08:57:00] | coochan: | because config files go in /etc |
| [08:57:00] | coochan: | it's called FSSTD |
| [08:57:00] | anxt: | crabstic, |
| [08:57:00] | anxt: | CrazyP, try and cat some of that into a file.mpg |
| [08:58:00] | anxt: | or |
| [08:58:00] | anxt: | mplayer /dev/v4l/video0 |
| [08:58:00] | anxt: | should work |
| [08:58:00] | anxt: | you have a working mplayer? |
| [08:58:00] | coochan: | god I hate debugging PHP, here we go again |
| [08:58:00] | Juski: | coochan: .htaccess files can go in the base directory of mythweb without any issues, the whole idea of them is to configure access to different vhosts & directories in apache2 |
| [08:58:00] | anxt: | i am java coder for a living atm |
| [08:59:00] | anxt: | i hate that but borland makes it real easy |
| [08:59:00] | Juski: | so it's natural to put them anywhere but /etc |
| [08:59:00] | coochan: | Juski: well, to make you happy, I'll replace the symlink with the file |
| [08:59:00] | anxt: | i didn't know a line of java a month ago |
| [08:59:00] | coochan: | but I am willing to be $100 it won't matter |
| [08:59:00] | CrazyP: | anxt, i got /dev/video[0,24,32] which do i use? |
| [08:59:00] | anxt: | and i wrote a nicely working applet |
| [08:59:00] | coochan: | takers? |
| [08:59:00] | anxt: | use 0 |
| [08:59:00] | anxt: | 24 is radio i think |
| [08:59:00] | Juski: | hey I'm happy as long as my system works okay :-P |
| [08:59:00] | coochan: | apparently |
| [09:00:00] | coochan: | just don't go blaming the victim out of ignorance |
| [09:00:00] | Juski: | maybe the problem is with the package then |
| [09:00:00] | coochan: | its possible |
| [09:01:00] | coochan: | however, why is it that it's so hard to really determine the problem |
| [09:01:00] | Juski: | thing with mythweb is that you can pretty much just decompress the tarball & copy the mythweb directory in there yourself |
| [09:01:00] | CrazyP: | anxt, yeah i'm tryin cat /dev/video0 file.mpg but the file isn't being created once I stoped the 'cat' |
| [09:01:00] | coochan: | that's true, I've done that before |
| [09:01:00] | anxt: | pastebin you dmesg |
| [09:01:00] | coochan: | in fact, I used that a lot as I was submitting patches to the mythweb maintainer |
| [09:02:00] | CrazyP: | anxt, nm i stupid |
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| [09:02:00] | coochan: | maybe I'll just use the SVN version then |
| [09:02:00] | CrazyP: | anxt, that worked :) |
| [09:03:00] | Juski: | on my box on friday the only issue I had was that one line in .htaccess needed changing – the server address |
| [09:04:00] | Juski: | that, and the init script for mythbackend wasn't working – it was using /etc/mythtv/.mythtv/mysql.txt for some reason |
| [09:05:00] | coochan: | Juski: ew |
| [09:06:00] | CrazyP: | anxt, the cat to a file worked, but i can't watch tv still... |
| [09:06:00] | coochan: | just the same... damn |
| [09:06:00] | coochan: | what pisses me off is that the PHP script is STDERR'ing the actual error |
| [09:06:00] | coochan: | or a code or anything |
| [09:07:00] | coochan: | I don't care how much you say it works for you (TM) but that just breaks decent software design |
| [09:07:00] | Juski: | coochan: seen this thread? http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . bian;#105102 |
| [09:07:00] | anxt: | CrazyP, well fix it damnit :) |
| [09:07:00] | anxt: | run nythtv-setup |
| [09:07:00] | CrazyP: | anxt, no clue why it not working |
| [09:08:00] | coochan: | Juski: but why is that relevant? |
| [09:08:00] | CrazyP: | yeah, ive run that |
| [09:08:00] | coochan: | mythweb running on samae box as the backend and the db |
| [09:09:00] | coochan: | anyhhow that doesn'ta pply to debian/sarge |
| [09:09:00] | Juski: | coochan yes, but like the guy in the 1st post said... "Mysql was not listening to the |
| [09:09:00] | Juski: | network, so mythweb could not connect to it." |
| [09:09:00] | coochan: | no, that's definately not it |
| [09:09:00] | Juski: | you not skipping networking? |
| [09:09:00] | coochan: | I can connect to the DB from any mahcine on my LAN here |
| [09:09:00] | Juski: | fair enough |
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| [09:10:00] | Juski: | if you're getting the page that complains about the DB config in mythweb, you're not far off I'm sure of it |
| [09:11:00] | Juski: | is the backend still running? best to make sure |
| [09:11:00] | coochan: | lets see |
| [09:11:00] | coochan: | yup |
| [09:12:00] | coochan: | hmm |
| [09:12:00] | Juski: | one less thing to consider then ;) |
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| [09:14:00] | CrazyP: | 2006-02–19 23:13:42.862 Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION: |
| [09:14:00] | CrazyP: | 2006-02–19 23:13:42.864 Changing from None to None <--this is the error msg I am getting when trying to watch live tv.. |
| [09:14:00] | coochan: | Juski: do you have mod_env configured? |
| [09:14:00] | coochan: | it must be built in for apache2 |
| [09:15:00] | Chicago: | CrazyP: that's the message I get too. |
| [09:15:00] | coochan: | the only reason it should give this error is one of the 3 not being set: |
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| [09:16:00] | coochan: | db_server db_name db_login — yet all are set... it must not be getting those |
| [09:17:00] | Juski: | hmmm.. mod_env ... |
| [09:18:00] | Juski: | yup |
| [09:18:00] | CrazyP: | mythtv: could not connect to socket |
| [09:18:00] | CrazyP: | <--hrmmm that gives a bit more info eh? |
| [09:18:00] | anxt: | brothers in arms |
| [09:19:00] | CrazyP: | oh, thats for lirc_init |
| [09:19:00] | coochan: | Juski: that must be the problem |
| [09:19:00] | ** coochan hacks thru it ** | |
| [09:19:00] | anxt: | lirc is cool |
| [09:19:00] | anxt: | it is worth it |
| [09:19:00] | CrazyP: | yeah, but not usefull if can't get tv output yet |
| [09:20:00] | anxt: | tv output? |
| [09:20:00] | anxt: | you mean livetv? |
| [09:20:00] | CrazyP: | well, in mythtv i aint getting nothing... |
| [09:20:00] | CrazyP: | yeah livetv |
| [09:20:00] | coochan: | damn, what's the SVN command to only update to the 0.19 released version? |
| [09:20:00] | CrazyP: | ivtv-tune -c 22 |
| [09:20:00] | CrazyP: | /dev/video0: 169.250 MHz (Signal Detected) |
| [09:20:00] | CrazyP: | so i can getting a signal, thats good |
| [09:21:00] | anxt: | coochan, it is on the site |
| [09:21:00] | Juski: | well it's time to go to work |
| [09:21:00] | Juski: | have fun folks |
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| [09:21:00] | coochan: | anxt: which site? |
| [09:21:00] | coochan: | tracker? wiki? |
| [09:22:00] | anxt: | cvs.mythtv.org |
| [09:22:00] | coochan: | ah |
| [09:22:00] | coochan: | 8925. |
| [09:22:00] | anxt: | 9056 i think |
| [09:23:00] | coochan: | eureka |
| [09:23:00] | anxt: | see it? |
| [09:23:00] | coochan: | I peeled the onion |
| [09:23:00] | coochan: | now I get another err |
| [09:23:00] | anxt: | i did that too |
| [09:23:00] | anxt: | thot 18.2 would go to 0.19 |
| [09:23:00] | CrazyP: | coochan, what did you do to fix it? |
| [09:24:00] | coochan: | I hardcoded my settings in init.php rather than using the _SERVER envvar or whatever |
| [09:24:00] | coochan: | altho I should be good and just figure out how to enable mod_env here. |
| [09:25:00] | coochan: | hup! |
| [09:25:00] | coochan: | blah, now what |
| [09:26:00] | CrazyP: | hrmm |
| [09:26:00] | CrazyP: | where is the init.php? |
| [09:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | is anybody familar with a issue that deinterlace does not work on AMD64? |
| [09:27:00] | Chicago: | CrazyP: on gentoo? |
| [09:28:00] | CrazyP: | Chicago, no, debian |
| [09:28:00] | CrazyP: | i just nmaped myself... the two ports are open |
| [09:29:00] | CrazyP: | mysqld is running |
| [09:29:00] | anxt: | telnet interface now |
| [09:29:00] | anxt: | hmm |
| [09:29:00] | coochan: | CrazyP: c'mon, you can find init.php |
| [09:29:00] | CrazyP: | hah yeah im lazy tho :P |
| [09:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I guess not :/ |
| [09:30:00] | CrazyP: | coochan, actually, I dont have an init.php, just did an updatedb && locate init.php no find |
| [09:31:00] | coochan: | CrazyP: are you using mythweb 0.19 ? |
| [09:31:00] | coochan: | you must be older ver |
| [09:31:00] | anxt: | wow i am high |
| [09:32:00] | Chicago: | anxt: high-five |
| [09:32:00] | anxt: | thx |
| [09:32:00] | anxt: | the pain is almost gone |
| [09:32:00] | anxt: | watch a friend gut buried yesterday |
| [09:32:00] | CrazyP: | coochan, no i dont think I am. |
| [09:32:00] | coochan: | erm |
| [09:33:00] | coochan: | if you don't have init.php you don't have mythweb 0.19 really installed |
| [09:33:00] | Chicago: | anxt: it doesn't get much more serious than that.... |
| [09:33:00] | coochan: | c'mon rewrite engine, kick in! |
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| [09:34:00] | Freman: | hmmm |
| [09:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou: you awake? |
| [09:34:00] | Freman: | my myth box doesn't seem to keen on recording |
| [09:34:00] | Freman: | it says the "schedule is empty" |
| [09:34:00] | Freman: | even tho theres stuff on tonight it's ment to be recording |
| [09:34:00] | coochan: | it really feels like this whole .htaccess file is being ignored or seomthing |
| [09:35:00] | coochan: | yup! |
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| [09:35:00] | Chicago: | coochan: are you using apache2? does it work for you on apache1? |
| [09:36:00] | coochan: | I'm using apache2 |
| [09:36:00] | coochan: | it worked in 0.18 and 0.17 |
| [09:36:00] | coochan: | ... and 0.18.1 |
| [09:36:00] | coochan: | lets see |
| [09:36:00] | Freman: | 0.19 seems totaly full of holes atm )c: |
| [09:36:00] | zCougar: | heh.. "delete recordings" menu adds all free storage in all backends together even if it is on NFS exported filesystem |
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| [09:37:00] | coochan: | I don't know if I'd say its full of holes |
| [09:37:00] | otwin: | coochan: do you have 'AllowOverride All' in your httpd.conf? |
| [09:37:00] | coochan: | I was able to upgrade my frontend backend an dmodules fine, after I got my build options right |
| [09:37:00] | coochan: | build machien not the same as backend server |
| [09:37:00] | coochan: | otwin: I do yes |
| [09:37:00] | Freman: | mythweb am broken |
| [09:38:00] | coochan: | howeve,r I put a deliberate syntax error in the .htaccess and nothing is noticing that |
| [09:38:00] | coochan: | Freman: it does seem to rely pretty heavily on apache configuration being right |
| [09:38:00] | coochan: | but that's kinda par for the course |
| [09:38:00] | Freman: | nope |
| [09:38:00] | Freman: | it's not just mythweb |
| [09:38:00] | Freman: | I can't schedule in either the front end or the back end |
| [09:38:00] | coochan: | I think it's a little wierd to require the rewrite rules and stuff in order for the application to work |
| [09:38:00] | Freman: | it goes into the db |
| [09:39:00] | coochan: | oh? |
| [09:39:00] | Freman: | but upcomming recordings doesn't show anything |
| [09:39:00] | coochan: | haven't gotten that far yet |
| [09:39:00] | otwin: | coochan: and are you sure you are not using a vhost (so the config is in conf.d/vhost.config or sth.) |
| [09:40:00] | otwin: | that could override your httpd.conf |
| [09:40:00] | Freman: | I had to restart the backend |
| [09:40:00] | Freman: | that could get annoying |
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| [09:40:00] | Freman: | nothing in the logs that would indicate why it wsn't updating either (c: |
| [09:40:00] | Freman: | )c; |
| [09:41:00] | coochan: | I'm sure I'm not using a vhost, yes |
| [09:42:00] | Freman: | I've got mine in a vhost in a dir, works fine (c: |
| [09:42:00] | Freman: | cept I put my auth directly on the vhost |
| [09:42:00] | Freman: | the whole vhost requires a password |
| [09:42:00] | coochan: | ah, here we go |
| [09:43:00] | coochan: | I did the <Directory> tag matching the symlink DEST, not source |
| [09:43:00] | coochan: | gah |
| [09:43:00] | Chicago: | coochan: you fixed it? |
| [09:43:00] | coochan: | lets see... |
| [09:45:00] | coochan: | so far so good |
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| [09:45:00] | coochan: | Chicago: why you need help withg your issue? |
| [09:45:00] | CrazyP: | wooohoo I got tv, but no sound :( |
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| [09:47:00] | Chicago: | choochan: I don't think I can do much about my issue right now... my backend and my frontends are both on a network miles away... so I can't really diagnose anything with a visible display... I don't know howto do it from the console. |
| [09:47:00] | coochan: | Freman: IIRC, it has to not just hit the DB, but kick the scheduler |
| [09:48:00] | coochan: | RESCHEDULE_RECORDINGS |
| [09:48:00] | anxt: | i just got sick all over the floor |
| [09:48:00] | anxt: | years since i done that |
| [09:49:00] | Chicago: | anxt: lol... that's all the pain leaving your body. ;) |
| [09:49:00] | anxt: | it was great |
| [09:49:00] | anxt: | yeah ti was |
| [09:49:00] | CrazyP: | damn thats no good anxt |
| [09:49:00] | coochan: | anxt: you got too high |
| [09:49:00] | anxt: | i am fine |
| [09:49:00] | anxt: | i have no pills |
| [09:50:00] | coochan: | sleep cures all |
| [09:50:00] | CrazyP: | i wonder even if sound works on this sucker.. yet to try that out |
| [09:50:00] | anxt: | i havent done percocet in a week |
| [09:50:00] | ** coochan wonders if it's intervention time ** | |
| [09:50:00] | anxt: | irc intervention |
| [09:50:00] | anxt: | hahaha |
| [09:51:00] | Chicago: | anxt: step away from the bottle. |
| [09:51:00] | coochan: | I doubt that would work well |
| [09:51:00] | CrazyP: | nah, percs are good for you |
| [09:51:00] | anxt: | the tylenol is bad |
| [09:51:00] | coochan: | britta vodka + pot + percocet ? |
| [09:51:00] | coochan: | + ibuprophin ? |
| [09:51:00] | anxt: | oxycodone is good |
| [09:52:00] | coochan: | throw in some DHT, why not? |
| [09:52:00] | anxt: | i am out for halucinogen of any sort |
| [09:52:00] | anxt: | but some purple 30s |
| [09:52:00] | anxt: | in a heartbeat |
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| [09:52:00] | Chicago: | don't forget the methyl alcohol so you get a little blindness going on too. |
| [09:52:00] | Freman: | Come again coochan |
| [09:53:00] | CrazyP: | hrmm nope no sound... next thing to solve |
| [09:54:00] | coochan: | Comes from a chicken, not a bunny, dummy |
| [09:55:00] | Freman: | what's this kick the scheduler? |
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| [09:55:00] | coochan: | Freman: backend command to re-read the recording schedules and schedule recordings accordingly |
| [09:56:00] | coochan: | cf the source |
| [09:56:00] | coochan: | or the tvwish program |
| [09:56:00] | coochan: | I used that sometimes to manually force a reschedule |
| [09:57:00] | coochan: | if you get the tvwish s/w I can give you a little script to do that |
| [09:57:00] | coochan: | 6 lines! |
| [09:57:00] | Freman: | something in contrib? |
| [09:57:00] | Freman: | there's no tvwish in gentoo that I can find |
| [09:57:00] | coochan: | google bro |
| [09:57:00] | coochan: | gentoo ain't the end-all |
| [09:58:00] | Freman: | already on it (c: |
| [09:58:00] | Freman: | I was just wondering if it was a contrib or something as I still have the source for it (c: |
| [09:58:00] | coochan: | I don't do gentoo so I dunno |
| [09:58:00] | coochan: | its not in debian either :) |
| [09:59:00] | coochan: | cf http://sopa.onshored.com/~adam/kick_scheduler |
| [09:59:00] | coochan: | put that in same dir as tvwish |
| [10:00:00] | Freman: | cf? |
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| [10:01:00] | Freman: | ok I understand now |
| [10:01:00] | Freman: | sorta |
| [10:01:00] | CrazyP: | sweet, its working :) |
| [10:01:00] | Freman: | I'm getting tvwish now |
| [10:03:00] | CrazyP: | cool. i want to figure out how to get mythtv to just start in lower right of screen now heh |
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| [10:04:00] | juski: | mornin' |
| [10:04:00] | coochan: | I need to fix the PIP stuff |
| [10:04:00] | coochan: | is it configurable now? |
| [10:05:00] | stuarta: | morning juski |
| [10:05:00] | coochan: | blah, it's 5am |
| [10:05:00] | ** juski has a fire damaged DVR to dismantle today ** | |
| [10:05:00] | johnp_: | juski,stuarta: morning |
| [10:05:00] | stuarta: | morning johnp_ |
| [10:05:00] | juski: | morning stuarta, johnp_ |
| [10:06:00] | stuarta: | anyone for a cup of tea :) |
| [10:06:00] | juski: | heheh |
| [10:06:00] | johnp_: | stuarta,juski : either of you two tried that interactive tv patch ? |
| [10:06:00] | juski: | not for me old chap I'm having coffee thankyou |
| [10:06:00] | juski: | interactive tv patch????? |
| [10:07:00] | stuarta: | not yet, it's very high on the todo list... |
| [10:07:00] | juski: | mheg functiono-mality? |
| [10:07:00] | johnp_: | #1341 |
| [10:07:00] | stuarta: | yeah, someone dropped a patch to do all that stuff into trac. |
| [10:07:00] | Elbonian: | Ooh, pretty. That, I will try out. |
| [10:07:00] | juski: | right. didn't see any dev list posts about it |
| [10:07:00] | Elbonian: | Heh |
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| [10:07:00] | johnp_: | I had a brief look for dtk this morning, seems to work. |
| [10:08:00] | stuarta: | cool. |
| [10:08:00] | juski: | what does it use? please don't say java |
| [10:08:00] | johnp_: | downside is dtk has no MHEG, and it needs another lib. |
| [10:08:00] | johnp_: | no not java :) |
| [10:08:00] | juski: | phew |
| [10:08:00] | johnp_: | (BTW I work for sun ) |
| [10:08:00] | stuarta: | It would need another lib, even if we wrote the lib ourselves... |
| [10:10:00] | juski: | eheheheheh.. pretty nifty |
| [10:10:00] | juski: | someone must've wanted it more badly than we did ;-) |
| [10:10:00] | ivor: | blimey. |
| [10:10:00] | Freman: | bawx tvwish # ./kick_scheduler |
| [10:10:00] | Freman: | Backend result: 1 |
| [10:10:00] | stuarta: | I got distracted by fixing lots of other things... |
| [10:11:00] | Freman: | that's good yes coochan? |
| [10:11:00] | juski: | mythtv just continues to kick arse in new ways all the time :-) |
| [10:11:00] | ivor: | stuarta: I haven't looked at the patch yet.. but what other lib does it need? |
| [10:11:00] | johnp_: | if you get chance could you test the patch and give dtk feedback ? |
| [10:12:00] | johnp_: | mpeg-dec I think. |
| [10:12:00] | stuarta: | ivor: erm, can't remember. It's in the ticket info tho. |
| [10:12:00] | stuarta: | johnp_: Think I might have to check it out tonight... |
| [10:12:00] | ** ivor scampers off to read ticket and patch. ** | |
| [10:12:00] | juski: | I'll have to buy a new video card today so I can try it on my test box |
| [10:13:00] | juski: | mpeg2dec is the library apparently |
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| [10:13:00] | stuarta: | surprised we don't already have a dep on that. |
| [10:13:00] | johnp_: | Chutt might not like it :) |
| [10:14:00] | stuarta: | probably not.... |
| [10:14:00] | ivor: | the comment implies that he's just using it to get still frames... |
| [10:14:00] | ivor: | should be possible to remove that dependency then. |
| [10:15:00] | stuarta: | esp if that's all it's for. |
| [10:15:00] | juski: | uh.. oh no not mjpeg2tools.. |
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| [10:16:00] | juski: | stuarta: going by the text in the ticket that's all it's used for |
| [10:16:00] | johnp_: | I tried it on Parliament TV this morning, that worked (even the recording) News 24 also worked but it didn't save the results, which confused me a bit |
| [10:16:00] | stuarta: | Ahh, I get what he means... |
| [10:17:00] | stuarta: | some of the background images are transmitted as I-frames |
| [10:17:00] | stuarta: | so he needed a way to convert that for display... |
| [10:18:00] | juski: | this oculd be tied into the main recorder couldn't it? |
| [10:18:00] | juski: | so that channels which aren't broadcasting are shown properly, as a STB would |
| [10:18:00] | stuarta: | somehow feed it through the dummyrecorder.... |
| [10:19:00] | stuarta: | the main bit to test initially would be the object carousel & mheg interpreter. |
| [10:19:00] | juski: | if channel has no video, look for mheg ? |
| [10:20:00] | stuarta: | I was meaning feed the I-frame to the dummyrecorder and have it render it instead of a black screen |
| [10:20:00] | juski: | ah yeh |
| [10:20:00] | ** johnp_ grumbles ,OSD channel detection is hosed anyway for me. ** | |
| [10:20:00] | stuarta: | as forr you 'off air' channels |
| [10:20:00] | stuarta: | try for your... |
| [10:21:00] | juski: | heh. i tried subtitles in minimyth last night to see what it was like... oh dear |
| [10:21:00] | stuarta: | they have a valid PMT, with only data streams |
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| [10:21:00] | stuarta: | in the UK at least... |
| [10:21:00] | ivor: | marvellous... I think I'll resurrect colour-osd. |
| [10:21:00] | juski: | stuarta: surely all dvb-t broadcasters follow the same guidelines |
| [10:21:00] | stuarta: | a STB sees the mheg app and 'autostarts' it. |
| [10:21:00] | johnp_: | hah |
| [10:22:00] | stuarta: | per country... |
| [10:22:00] | juski: | yeah? messy |
| [10:22:00] | juski: | why am I not surprised |
| [10:22:00] | johnp_: | if you're lucky |
| [10:22:00] | Merlin83b: | juski: I used suvtitles testerday too and they worked perfectly. Why oh dear? |
| [10:22:00] | ivor: | I thought mheg was going to be used as the standard europe-wide? |
| [10:22:00] | stuarta: | the uk is very consistent in this... |
| [10:22:00] | stuarta: | ivor, thought it already was. |
| [10:23:00] | juski: | why oh dear? playing back a recording with subtitles.. was very erm.. stumbly. and causes playback to start from the beginning of the recording again |
| [10:23:00] | ** stuarta scratches his head... ** | |
| [10:23:00] | juski: | it's no big deal for me cos I don't depend on subtitles |
| [10:24:00] | juski: | might just be a minimyth problem. |
| [10:24:00] | Merlin83b: | Weird, seemed to work fine for me turning on subtitle half way through a programme. |
| [10:24:00] | stuarta: | likely is minimyth problem. |
| [10:24:00] | Merlin83b: | I guess so. |
| [10:24:00] | juski: | programme was being time-stretched at the same time – I dunno if that's cause it problems |
| [10:25:00] | Merlin83b: | Hmm, could be. I was watching at normal speed. |
| [10:25:00] | juski: | I was in a hurry so I just turned off subtitles & ffwd'd back to the point where I left off |
| [10:26:00] | Merlin83b: | Heh. |
| [10:27:00] | stuarta: | timestretch = hurry |
| [10:27:00] | juski: | noticed that after seeking in a recording now, it no longer takes a second to 'get up to speed' |
| [10:27:00] | juski: | need more remote buttons so I can map timestretch + & - |
| [10:28:00] | Merlin83b: | Blue, left and right work for me :-) |
| [10:28:00] | Merlin83b: | (Hauppauge silver remote) |
| [10:29:00] | juski: | guess I could use yellow on my remote |
| [10:30:00] | johnp_: | until the MHEG stuff goes in ;) |
| [10:30:00] | juski: | or red come to think of it.. nah I'll save that for 'interactive' ;-) |
| [10:30:00] | ivor: | or get a remote with more buttons? :) |
| [10:30:00] | Merlin83b: | Red is currently delete on mine. Ready to remap once interactive works :-) |
| [10:30:00] | Merlin83b: | I don't even use all the buttons on this thing yet :-) |
| [10:30:00] | ivor: | juski: what remote are you using at the moment? |
| [10:31:00] | ** juski has one remote in the livingroom – OFA6 ** | |
| [10:31:00] | juski: | actually I don't use ch + and ch - |
| [10:31:00] | juski: | that's what the arrow keys are for.... |
| [10:31:00] | juski: | sorted |
| [10:32:00] | Merlin83b: | :-) |
| [10:32:00] | juski: | hmm keys.txt.. where4art_thou? |
| [10:33:00] | juski: | damn. i thought there were seperate keys for timestretch up/down |
| [10:34:00] | Merlin83b: | Gotta pop the slider up and move it? |
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| [10:35:00] | juski: | wait a sec... U – increase play speed... is that it or is that ffwd? |
| [10:35:00] | jvs: | where does mythtv store its fonts running gentoo? |
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| [10:40:00] | juski: | mythtv uses fonts – doesn't manage them though |
| [10:41:00] | juski: | google 'gentoo fonts' ;-) |
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| [10:42:00] | stuarta: | anyone know a good fast string hash algoritm? |
| [10:43:00] | juski: | |
| [10:43:00] | stuarta: | aren't they analogue? |
| [10:44:00] | juski: | handy for grabbing from cable boxes |
| [10:46:00] | ivor: | depends what you mean by "manage fonts" too. |
| [10:46:00] | ivor: | it will pick up ttf fonts that are located in the theme root directory. |
| [10:47:00] | juski: | yeh there is that |
| [10:47:00] | jvs: | juski, I'm trying to install mythburn, but it won't run |
| [10:47:00] | juski: | la la la la la la la |
| [10:48:00] | jvs: | and I thought, maybe there mythtv creates its own font foldger |
| [10:48:00] | jvs: | *folder |
| [10:48:00] | juski: | mythburn... one big steamer there |
| [10:48:00] | jvs: | I know... |
| [10:48:00] | juski: | depends on lots of broken things |
| [10:48:00] | jvs: | but I wanna give it a try |
| [10:48:00] | stuarta: | hehehe |
| [10:48:00] | juski: | find libs that work & include them in the code... |
| [10:49:00] | juski: | wait a sec.. try searching for mythburn2.. it's new & improved & python apparently |
| [10:49:00] | jvs: | python? |
| [10:49:00] | jvs: | really? |
| [10:49:00] | juski: | still depends on mjpegtools I think :-/ |
| [10:50:00] | jvs: | google gives me this, when I search mythburn2 "[17:54] <Juski> hmmm mythburn2..." |
| [10:50:00] | juski: | not tried it yet |
| [10:50:00] | jvs: | :P |
| [10:50:00] | juski: | lol |
| [10:50:00] | Merlin83b: | Heh |
| [10:50:00] | stuarta: | haha. All I get it me suggesting someone start it!!! |
| [10:50:00] | jvs: | rofl |
| [10:50:00] | juski: | what I meant was – don't fsking ask me – I couldn't get it working either |
| [10:51:00] | jvs: | nvmrnd, ty though |
| [10:51:00] | juski: | maybe all the functions mjpegtools do have been implemented in python, but I doubt it |
| [10:52:00] | juski: | that'd prolly be too slow |
| [10:55:00] | juski: | anyway it's in their CVS i you wanna look at it |
| [10:55:00] | juski: | *if |
| [10:56:00] | jvs: | k |
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| [10:59:00] | jvs: | time for a sync |
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| [11:53:00] | ** stuarta finally orders new memory for his machine ** | |
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| [11:54:00] | juski: | bigger, faster, more shiny? ;-) |
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| [11:54:00] | juski: | with flashing LEDs & heatpipes (and go-faster stripes) ?? |
| [11:54:00] | stuarta: | bigger. After hitting 600Mb in swap over the weekend I figured replacing 512mb with 2G was a good idea. |
| [11:55:00] | juski: | blimey |
| [11:55:00] | juski: | no matter how hard I hit my backend with 512MB it never swaps |
| [11:55:00] | juski: | guess I'm never really taxing it |
| [11:55:00] | stuarta: | Lets see. 300Mb frontend 200–250Mb backend, 100Mb commflag |
| [11:56:00] | stuarta: | plus X & compiling... |
| [11:56:00] | juski: | ahh |
| [11:56:00] | stuarta: | Always have 300Mb minimum in swap.... |
| [11:56:00] | juski: | I didn't take any chances when I upgraded on friday – mythbackend was stopped the whole time |
| [11:58:00] | stuarta: | my machine does everything. |
| [11:58:00] | stuarta: | including email & http. |
| [12:00:00] | juski: | mine's just a mythbackend box & media server |
| [12:00:00] | stuarta: | one day. I'd like to make a freecom storage gateway into a embedded backend :) |
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| [12:03:00] | scopeuk: | ok quick qeustion if i start mythbackend as a normal ser it gieves me an error about not being able to conenct to the database |
| [12:03:00] | scopeuk: | if i start it as root it works fine |
| [12:03:00] | stuarta: | your user doesn't have mysql.txt in ~/.mythtv |
| [12:04:00] | scopeuk: | ok thanksyou |
| [12:04:00] | stuarta: | juski: remember that one. It comes up all the time. |
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| [12:04:00] | Merlin83b: | Yeah, see, I don't really need 10 apaches running to run mythweb |
| [12:05:00] | Merlin83b: | Silly default config. |
| [12:05:00] | scopeuk: | should there be anything in mysql.txt in etc? |
| [12:06:00] | stuarta: | see /root/.mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [12:06:00] | scopeuk: | ok |
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| [12:08:00] | juski: | stuarta: S.E.P., or RTFM would've been my answer last week |
| [12:09:00] | stuarta: | RTFM is my favourite... |
| [12:10:00] | juski: | just been reading up on those harmoney remotes.. looks like you can't get down & dirty with the codes even if you want to |
| [12:11:00] | juski: | saying that I prolly don't need to – just need to find their list of supported kit |
| [12:14:00] | tweak_st: | anybody have widescreen with mythtv? |
| [12:16:00] | ivor: | anybody who doesn't? |
| [12:17:00] | ** stuarta is sadly widescreen deprived. ** | |
| [12:17:00] | tweak_st: | im trying to get the console and xwindows to show the whole screen |
| [12:17:00] | juski: | 16:9 all the way here |
| [12:18:00] | tweak_st: | everything looks so huge and halved |
| [12:18:00] | juski: | ? |
| [12:18:00] | juski: | you mean.. _fat_ ? |
| [12:19:00] | tweak_st: | well mythtv goes fullscreen and using a wide theme looks ok |
| [12:19:00] | juski: | so what's the problem? |
| [12:19:00] | tweak_st: | but just trying to do anything outside it is painful |
| [12:19:00] | juski: | anything other than mythtv on a TV is painful anyway |
| [12:20:00] | ivor: | this is like drawing teeth.. |
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| [12:20:00] | juski: | tried mythbrowser yet? lol |
| [12:20:00] | tweak_st: | guess im too picky |
| [12:20:00] | juski: | I'm picky – I just don't expect too much of PAL TV |
| [12:21:00] | juski: | webrowsing & terminal / desktop interfaces aren't designed for the livingroom ;-) |
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| [12:22:00] | tweak_st: | true |
| [12:23:00] | juski: | what res are you running X in? a 4:3 mode? |
| [12:24:00] | juski: | tip: 800x600 is 4:3 ;-) |
| [12:33:00] | juski: | wow. lots of people are visiting my theme site for 5 seconds or less |
| [12:37:00] | juski: | weee.. how fast is mythweb loading now? lovely over my crappy uplink |
| [12:42:00] | juski: | has anyone considered .. you know how Vista is gonna have PVR features of MCE built in.. will that be viewed as anti-competitive do you reckon? :-P |
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| [12:42:00] | tweak_st: | what 'features' ? |
| [12:43:00] | juski: | well MCE functionality (if you can even call it that) |
| [12:43:00] | tweak_st: | drm? |
| [12:43:00] | juski: | jus occurred to me that they've been sued for less, so it might get a bit 'fun' for them |
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| [12:47:00] | juski: | wasn't referring to DRM anyway – I mean microsoft are making MCE features _standard_ in the home versions of Vista, apparently – a move that could be construed as hostile towards snapstream, showshifter, tivo... it could be about to get amusing |
| [12:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | Bleee |
| [12:49:00] | ** GreyFoxx is gonna skip work this mornin ** | |
| [12:49:00] | tweak_st: | oh noes |
| [12:49:00] | ** GreyFoxx loves that "I'm gonna quit today" feeling of freedom and rebellion ** | |
| [12:52:00] | scopeuk: | GreyFoxx's boss doesent :D |
| [12:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
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| [13:01:00] | nathanj: | any sugesstions on what linux dist i should put on my msi megapc? |
| [13:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | What distro are you most familiar with ?:) |
| [13:03:00] | nathanj: | GreyFoxx: gentoo/ubuntu/debian/drake/ipcop :) |
| [13:03:00] | nathanj: | i was thinking ubuntu but im not sure |
| [13:04:00] | nathanj: | too much compiling in gentoo i think |
| [13:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | Seriously, pick whatever you generally use. Don't pick a different distro just because it will be running myth |
| [13:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | you will be happier for it |
| [13:06:00] | scopeuk: | myth on ip cop now that whould bean exercise in futility |
| [13:09:00] | nathanj: | scopeuk: hehe |
| [13:09:00] | nathanj: | :) |
| [13:09:00] | nathanj: | GreyFoxx: well i want (well not really want but i need winxp to use the default software) which should i install first? |
| [13:09:00] | scopeuk: | im sure it can be done but im also fairly confident driver support and kernal moduals whould get in the way |
| [13:10:00] | nathanj: | winxp or ubunut? |
| [13:10:00] | scopeuk: | i did xp then debian on my box |
| [13:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | What defAult software are you referring to ? |
| [13:10:00] | scopeuk: | you configure it with your boot loader afterwards anyway |
| [13:10:00] | scopeuk: | think he means at boot GreyFoxx |
| [13:10:00] | nathanj: | GreyFoxx: the MSI software |
| [13:11:00] | nathanj: | the box has a lcd (which probably wont work with linux (straight away)) |
| [13:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | Then where does myth come into play ?:) |
| [13:12:00] | nathanj: | GreyFoxx: its better |
| [13:14:00] | scopeuk: | ok explain exactly what you want to do |
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| [13:17:00] | nathanj: | everything |
| [13:17:00] | nathanj: | :) |
| [13:18:00] | scopeuk: | no i mean what hardware do you have and whats the deal with this msi thing isf its an os then tuff luck weather it works with th display or not its irrelivent to making it wirk with linux |
| [13:21:00] | nathanj: | scopeuk: having a look at forums :) |
| [13:24:00] | scopeuk: | ok |
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| [13:25:00] | nathanj: | hrmm not much |
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| [13:26:00] | LPLATES: | Hey all --- What digital video TV,(DVB-T) card do you people recommend for using on Linux or FreeBSD, – AND – Have you used one of these cards personally, if so, Please state the card AND the distribution OS. --- THANKS :) |
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| [13:45:00] | scopeuk: | in a short while i think im gonna give up on debian and try somethign else |
| [13:47:00] | scopeuk: | for some reason none of my channels work althouigh tehere fine in xawtv |
| [13:48:00] | scopeuk: | yet the sound is there |
| [13:48:00] | juski: | changing distro will give bugger all |
| [13:49:00] | scopeuk: | yeh cept i might get one that actually has all i need avaliable withotu a load of screwing round |
| [13:49:00] | laga: | knoppmyth? |
| [13:49:00] | laga: | hi juski |
| [13:49:00] | scopeuk: | doesent work on my myth box for somereason |
| [13:49:00] | juski: | the problem you're having is due to myth not being configured properly. if anything changing distro will only effectively mean you're reinstalling mythtv |
| [13:49:00] | scopeuk: | think donw to 2.6 kernal |
| [13:49:00] | juski: | hi laga |
| [13:49:00] | scopeuk: | 2.6dies on this box bu 2.4 works |
| [13:50:00] | juski: | 2.4? jesus |
| [13:50:00] | juski: | not that I'm a huge fan of 2.6.15 yet |
| [13:50:00] | juski: | it broke my wake on lan :-( |
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| [13:51:00] | laga: | juski: how would it do that? |
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| [13:51:00] | juski: | laga: when the board goes into standby from a shutdown the driver messes something up in the NIC |
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| [13:52:00] | juski: | pablo the minimyth guy might be able to fixummify it though |
| [13:53:00] | juski: | any progress on the USB stick frontend distro? |
| [13:53:00] | juski: | might be easier to mess about with something like that rather than the GAR build system |
| [13:53:00] | laga: | juski: hehe. ask greyfoxx ;) |
| [13:54:00] | ** laga is waiting for his complete rebuild of his gentoo system to finish ** | |
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| [13:54:00] | juski: | heh |
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| [13:54:00] | scopeuk: | laga will be waiting a long time |
| [13:54:00] | shadsash: | has anybody tried this hardware with myth? http://www.foxconnchannel.com/products_barebo . . . ame=Tuckaway |
| [13:54:00] | laga: | i'm rebuilding 'system' twice, followed by doing the same for 'world' ;). rice++ |
| [13:54:00] | juski: | I'd have a go doing my own but I like watching TV |
| [13:55:00] | laga: | scopeuk: yeah, probably. i hope it's finished in a few hours, this is a bare-metal install |
| [13:55:00] | juski: | stage 1? |
| [13:55:00] | shadsash: | The tuckaway looks ideal 3d dri and about the size of a digimatrix |
| [13:55:00] | scopeuk: | all i know is debian net inst takes 3 hours on my mth myth box |
| [13:55:00] | laga: | juski: well, only stage 3 is supported anymore, so I'm basically doing a stage 3 -> stage 1 |
| [13:55:00] | juski: | you need some go-faster LEDs on your case and some flashy neons |
| [13:56:00] | shadsash: | laga: you heard anything about this system? http://www.foxconnchannel.com/products_barebo . . . ame=Tuckaway |
| [13:56:00] | laga: | juski: yeah, i know. my 240x128LCD is still not ready :/ |
| [13:56:00] | laga: | shadsash: no. |
| [13:56:00] | shadsash: | pretty sweet looking huh :-) |
| [13:56:00] | laga: | i know the whole optimization thing about gentoo is kinda bullshit, but i really hope it helps with playback on my low-end hardware :) |
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| [13:57:00] | juski: | wow. another butt-ugly little PC chassis. what will they think of next? |
| [13:57:00] | shadash: | it's even got 1 free pci slot and I think I can fit a hdtv card in it |
| [13:57:00] | shadash: | juski: how can you say that's ugly? |
| [13:58:00] | juski: | it's ugly. |
| [13:58:00] | shadash: | and you can run dri native on it |
| [13:58:00] | LPLATES: | What digital video TV,(DVB-T) card do you people recommend for using on Linux or FreeBSD, – AND – Have you used one of these cards personally, if so, Please state the card AND the distribution OS. --- THANKS :) |
| [13:58:00] | shadash: | that looks like an ideal myth system |
| [13:59:00] | ** juski wouldn't recommend FreeBSD for mythtv. oh no, no way ** | |
| [13:59:00] | shadash: | 5.1 audio out |
| [13:59:00] | laga: | LPLATES: WE read your QUESTION thank YOU very much. |
| [13:59:00] | tweak_st: | i agree with the butt-ugly |
| [14:00:00] | stuarta: | i reckon fugly. |
| [14:00:00] | juski: | I 8> my epia M-10k system.. got DTS audio working fine on saturday |
| [14:00:00] | shadash: | well what isn't ugly? |
| [14:00:00] | shadash: | show me a link |
| [14:00:00] | shadash: | epia M-10k can't do 3ghz |
| [14:00:00] | tweak_st: | ahanix has nice cases |
| [14:01:00] | stuarta: | http://www.quietpc.com/uk/htpc.php |
| [14:01:00] | scopeuk: | how come in mythtv-setup you cant selec scan or advanced in the channel config page |
| [14:01:00] | tweak_st: | nice |
| [14:01:00] | shadash: | Those are cool but kinda bulky |
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| [14:02:00] | tweak_st: | not much bigger than say your audio receiver |
| [14:02:00] | praet: | anyone get pvr-150 ir blasting to work? |
| [14:02:00] | whyz: | hey.. anyone knows if hauppauge hvr 1300 works in linux? |
| [14:02:00] | shadash: | the foxconn sells for $270 all you need is a drive cpu and ram |
| [14:03:00] | LPLATES: | laga: Was that just bad capitalisation on your part, or my reading of what you wrote, or were you being a little snide? |
| [14:05:00] | laga: | LPLATES: it was me being 'snide', if you'd like to say it that way. YELLING is considered to be rude. |
| [14:05:00] | shadash: | I tried to make a digimatrix work about a year ago but there aren't any 3d drivers for SiS cards |
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| [14:06:00] | shadash: | other than the 300 |
| [14:06:00] | shadash: | digi uses SiS 315 |
| [14:07:00] | LPLATES: | laga: Why be snide to me,... re-asking a question 30+ minutes after the 1st post when there have been new joins and an awaking of channel members makes perfect sense... nothing to be snide about unless you're one of those sought of people,.. and if you are, then I must say that I pitty you and those around you. |
| [14:07:00] | shadash: | LPLATES: this channel's not worth fighting in |
| [14:07:00] | scopeuk: | oh sod it ill flip to testign see if anythign works |
| [14:07:00] | scopeuk: | if all else fails its a resonable way to kill a box |
| [14:08:00] | laga: | LPLATES: *shrug* i could care less. BTW, the mailing list at http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ and the linuxtv wiki at www.linuxtv.org have a lot of information regarding capture cards |
| [14:08:00] | stuarta: | scopeuk: debian testing? |
| [14:08:00] | scopeuk: | yeh |
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| [14:08:00] | stuarta: | works well for me. Recompile will be essential though. |
| [14:09:00] | scopeuk: | is testign sid or etch for marillat? |
| [14:09:00] | juski: | wyhz: hvr1300 is work in progress. check the v4l mailing list |
| [14:09:00] | juski: | http://www.mini-itx.com/store/?c=3#p1146 |
| [14:10:00] | Merlin83b: | I looked at that and rejected it as only 1 pci card. |
| [14:10:00] | stuarta: | both be about the same. sid = unstable, etch = testing. |
| [14:11:00] | scopeuk: | yeh though it was |
| [14:11:00] | scopeuk: | away it goes |
| [14:11:00] | scopeuk: | 144 meg to download |
| [14:11:00] | scopeuk: | this is goan takea while |
| [14:12:00] | stuarta: | not bad. I've 700Mb to download :( |
| [14:12:00] | scopeuk: | ive only got a 1 meg line |
| [14:12:00] | scopeuk: | and i had the whole thing lastnight lol |
| [14:12:00] | stuarta: | so I'm not bothering till I install amd64 deb. |
| [14:12:00] | scopeuk: | installed net isnt twice yesterday |
| [14:12:00] | scopeuk: | yeh i have amd64 deb on my main box for dual boot |
| [14:12:00] | stuarta: | bah, just downloading amd64 testing dvd jigdo's |
| [14:12:00] | praet: | what do you need 3ghz for :) |
| [14:12:00] | scopeuk: | i used the netinstall lol |
| [14:13:00] | scopeuk: | allways do with debian |
| [14:13:00] | scopeuk: | ive got this horible feelign tis gonan stick a 26 kernal on and my boxwill nologner boot |
| [14:14:00] | stuarta: | probably... |
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| [14:16:00] | scopeuk: | oh well as long as it doesent cripple grub ill be fine |
| [14:16:00] | scopeuk: | the guys in the debian channel took a fit at me when i asked em how to change my box over to testing |
| [14:16:00] | scopeuk: | somethign along the lines of if you cant figure out how to do that you wont be able to use testing or somethign stupid |
| [14:16:00] | scopeuk: | i can do it jsut couldent do it from cli |
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| [14:19:00] | tfm: | scopeuk: then you shouldn't do it |
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| [14:20:00] | scopeuk: | tfm i figured it out in the end |
| [14:20:00] | tfm: | scopeuk: debian testing is like suicide |
| [14:20:00] | scopeuk: | whould have een nice for em to just help or tell me to go else ware rarther than takign the mick |
| [14:20:00] | stuarta: | tfm: nothing wrong with testing. |
| [14:20:00] | tfm: | scopeuk: don't do it unless you want to spent every week like so many hours to get everything back working |
| [14:20:00] | scopeuk: | tfm i cant make it any worse than not working |
| [14:21:00] | juski: | umbongo, umbongo.. ubuntu |
| [14:21:00] | sphing: | scopeuk: 1 tfm: 0 |
| [14:21:00] | juski: | ;-) |
| [14:21:00] | tfm: | stuarta: off course not, but you have to know what you're doing ;) |
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| [14:21:00] | scopeuk: | heh i have to learn sometime |
| [14:21:00] | juski: | use the guide at www.abarbaccia.com & time yourself. try to beat my time of 2 hours from empty HDD :-) |
| [14:23:00] | scopeuk: | juski was that directed at me? |
| [14:23:00] | juski: | btw I'm not counting setting up mythmusic, mythvideo & all the xmltv info for channels – just a basic working setup |
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| [14:26:00] | shadash: | Here's a quick question... If I have a HDTV capture card do I also need a regular capture card? |
| [14:26:00] | shadash: | or will the HDTV card do both regular TV and HDTV |
| [14:27:00] | DreadPirateBob: | shadash: depends on the card. |
| [14:28:00] | DreadPirateBob: | Most likely your HDTV card can't do ntsc. |
| [14:28:00] | shadash: | well which one can do both |
| [14:29:00] | DreadPirateBob: | Well, what kind of "regular tv" do you want? |
| [14:29:00] | shadash: | ntsc |
| [14:30:00] | DreadPirateBob: | cable? digital-cable? OTA? |
| [14:30:00] | juski: | don't think there are any HDTV & hardware encoding SDTV cards yet |
| [14:30:00] | shadash: | cable |
| [14:30:00] | shadash: | hmmm |
| [14:30:00] | DreadPirateBob: | the air2pc HD-5000 supports QAM |
| [14:30:00] | DreadPirateBob: | But not analog cable |
| [14:30:00] | shadash: | QAM is digital cable? |
| [14:31:00] | stuarta: | QAM is an encoding method |
| [14:31:00] | juski: | quadrature amplitude modulation ;) |
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| [14:32:00] | shadash: | ok so here's the scenario... I have digital cable and get hdtv signals with it. air2pc will do the hdtv capture. Will it also capture the regular channels? |
| [14:33:00] | juski: | oh dear. it's likely the HDTV stuff on the cable is encrypted |
| [14:33:00] | shadash: | so I'd have to get it after the cable box? |
| [14:33:00] | tweak_st: | probably the 'premium' channels are |
| [14:34:00] | tweak_st: | shadash its the easiest solution |
| [14:34:00] | shadash: | wall -> cable box (from cable provider) -> myth system -> tv |
| [14:35:00] | juski: | firewire will give you the best quality capture |
| [14:35:00] | juski: | but some channels will be 5C encoded & you won't be able to use them in myth |
| [14:35:00] | shadash: | component from cable box (from cable provider) to myth system isn't good? |
| [14:36:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [14:36:00] | Beirdo: | you found a compenent video capture card for Linux? |
| [14:36:00] | DreadPirateBob: | shadash: D-A-D-A. Sounds like a job for a supercomputer. |
| [14:36:00] | shadash: | I thought that's what the air2pc cards were? |
| [14:37:00] | DreadPirateBob: | coax is the only input |
| [14:37:00] | Beirdo: | air2pc don't capture component video, they capture ATSC and QAM |
| [14:38:00] | shadash: | ok so coax from cable box (from cable provider) to myth system. if coax out is availale |
| [14:38:00] | shadash: | that should get by all the encrypted channels |
| [14:38:00] | juski: | HDTV OTA & cable cards demodulate the signal into data. MPEG2 data which gets spat across the PCI bus onto your HDD |
| [14:38:00] | sphing: | Beirdo almost wet himself when he thought there was a component card |
| [14:39:00] | DreadPirateBob: | shadash: that won't work. |
| [14:39:00] | shadash: | why not? LIRC can control both systems |
| [14:39:00] | juski: | actually if you read the datasheets for modern mpeg2 encoder chips as used on our common pvr cards & similar, they claim to be able to do it at HD resoultions |
| [14:40:00] | juski: | and they can be configured to take component inputs, so _you_ work out why there are none in the market ;-) |
| [14:40:00] | shadash: | I did find one in taiwan about a year ago but it was never sold in US. Never made it to market |
| [14:40:00] | juski: | wonder why that was.. |
| [14:41:00] | shadash: | shrug.. |
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| [14:41:00] | juski: | now it's gonna be too late.. with the analog buttplug.. muhahaha |
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| [14:42:00] | shadash: | so what's the consensus? Is cable box to myth system to tv a good choice? Isn't that how the dishTV people do things? |
| [14:42:00] | juski: | I shouln't have had that extra cup of coffee |
| [14:42:00] | tweak_st: | run around the building a few times ;) |
| [14:43:00] | juski: | the consensus is, people strike a balance between what's possible & practical for themselves |
| [14:44:00] | shadash: | I'm trying to plan out a system and need to figure out the best approach |
| [14:44:00] | juski: | grabbing HDTV thru firewire is fine up to a point, but you generally don't get much more than OTA offers you IIRC |
| [14:44:00] | Beirdo: | sphing, I did not almost wet myself... |
| [14:45:00] | shadash: | juski: can all cable boxes do the firewire thing? |
| [14:45:00] | shadash: | doesn't seem like it would be that way |
| [14:45:00] | juski: | shadash: by law the cable co has to give you a box with firewire if you ask for one |
| [14:46:00] | shadash: | interesting |
| [14:46:00] | juski: | plenty of mail list traffic about that subject |
| [14:46:00] | shadash: | gotcha |
| [14:47:00] | juski: | shadash.. what's interesting is that the cable company people on the front desk might not even know your rights, or what this 'fire wire' is ;-) |
| [14:48:00] | shadash: | Very very interesting |
| [14:48:00] | Beirdo: | hell, they might not even know what "coax" is |
| [14:48:00] | juski: | heheh |
| [14:48:00] | Beirdo: | the cable companies aren't known for their brilliant employees |
| [14:48:00] | shadash: | I have a friend that makes his living off of class action suits |
| [14:48:00] | juski: | how's you mouth today Beirdo? |
| [14:48:00] | Beirdo: | not too bad still |
| [14:49:00] | Beirdo: | but I'm staying home as the tylenol 3 has a habit of knocking me cold |
| [14:49:00] | juski: | ah |
| [14:49:00] | juski: | even its name sounds powerful |
| [14:49:00] | shadash: | If there was a way to prove that the cable companies were actively trying to not provide firewire he could sue them |
| [14:49:00] | Beirdo: | rather sleep on my couch at home than at my desk at work |
| [14:49:00] | Beirdo: | it has 3 grains of codeine added |
| [14:50:00] | shadash: | they make millions off of cell phone companies |
| [14:50:00] | Beirdo: | shadash, your "friend" is the worst kinda leech. |
| [14:50:00] | juski: | and cell phone companies make only teeny weeny profits.. I know.. I feel really sorry for them |
| [14:50:00] | shadash: | not really |
| [14:50:00] | juski: | narf |
| [14:50:00] | shadash: | verizon was screwing people it how it billed them |
| [14:51:00] | Beirdo: | lawyers who go out for class action suits rip off the clients and the companies, just to get rich |
| [14:51:00] | Beirdo: | in the end the consumer pays more as a result |
| [14:51:00] | juski: | nobody becomes a lawyer to help people.. |
| [14:51:00] | shadash: | ummm AT&T one rate was screwing their customers |
| [14:51:00] | juski: | apart from themselves I mean ;-) |
| [14:52:00] | shadash: | and don't you think that all cable boxes should have a firewire port |
| [14:52:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [14:52:00] | juski: | most people wouldn't know what to do with them |
| [14:52:00] | juski: | they'd be plugging their camcorders into them & all sorts |
| [14:52:00] | shadash: | maybe it's because they haven't been sued is the reason it's not there |
| [14:52:00] | Beirdo: | I think that if you ask for one, the cable company should provide one without a hassle, just as the FCC mandates |
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| [14:52:00] | scopeuk: | shadash are you plugign for a partition or somethign stupid |
| [14:53:00] | shadash: | no |
| [14:53:00] | juski: | wtf? |
| [14:53:00] | Beirdo: | most people will never use firewire, WTF should we have it on ALL cable boxes for? |
| [14:53:00] | shadash: | just saying... Lawyers aren't all bad |
| [14:53:00] | Beirdo: | only the people who want it should have it |
| [14:53:00] | shadash: | if it's a law they should follow it |
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| [14:53:00] | juski: | the mandate only says it should be provided at the customer's request |
| [14:54:00] | juski: | so they take the cheaper option |
| [14:54:00] | juski: | all cable boxes should have built in features like Mythtv, only more so... and.. and ... and... |
| [14:54:00] | shadash: | Lawyers interpret the rules. The the rules are broken that's the problem |
| [14:54:00] | juski: | but they don't, so we have to provide the features |
| [14:55:00] | Beirdo: | lawyers are the scum of the earth |
| [14:55:00] | juski: | I couldn't see myself making a living by trying to prove a murderer is innocent |
| [14:55:00] | juski: | when they're blatantly _not_ innocent |
| [14:55:00] | shadash: | It's is a customer request thing then that's fine |
| [14:55:00] | Beirdo: | they may occasionally be a necessary evil, but they are scum in general |
| [14:55:00] | scopeuk: | dont know if its the smae in the us but iff a client admits guilt to a lawyer in the uk the cant legaly defend them |
| [14:56:00] | juski: | scopeuk.. really? didn't know that |
| [14:56:00] | scopeuk: | ypu rearly |
| [14:57:00] | scopeuk: | yup* |
| [14:57:00] | juski: | you don't always need someone's confession to know they're guilty as hell though |
| [14:57:00] | juski: | aaanyway |
| [14:57:00] | scopeuk: | nod |
| [14:58:00] | stuarta: | and now back to our regularly scheduled program... |
| [14:58:00] | scopeuk: | think we were takignthe mick ot of me for usign deian testign when i couldent make stable work properly |
| [14:59:00] | scopeuk: | taking the mick out of me for using debian testing when i couldent get stable to work properly* |
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| [15:00:00] | whyz: | hey.. anyone knows if hauppauge hvr 1300t works under linux? |
| [15:00:00] | juski: | whyz: you asked that earlier |
| [15:00:00] | juski: | and I said check the v4l mailing list |
| [15:00:00] | nasa: | Has anyone else have X randomally go to 99% cpu usage? It's a really strange problem, I already tested for overheating and bad ATI drivers (neither seem to be the issue). I would love some advice on this... |
| [15:00:00] | juski: | it's under development. the digital side works |
| [15:01:00] | whyz: | juski: sorry about that.. probably missed without highlighting :/ |
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| [15:01:00] | juski: | wb nasa. still not nixed that yet? I'd have given up on it & bought a nvidia card by now |
| [15:01:00] | juski: | whyz: maybe I typed your nick wrong |
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| [15:02:00] | Beirdo: | fuckin gmail |
| [15:02:00] | Beirdo: | still won't let me send mail or save a draft |
| [15:02:00] | Beirdo: | I don't get it |
| [15:02:00] | nasa: | juski: it's the weekend & a holiday — could get one if I wanted (at a resonable price, that is) |
| [15:03:00] | juski: | if you can't move forwards to solve a problem, move sideways ;-) |
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| [15:03:00] | nasa: | juski: damn I can't type — couldn't get one right now (weekend && holiday) , at a resonable price |
| [15:04:00] | scopeuk: | im prety good at that but i usually die step offthe clif to get round the fence |
| [15:04:00] | nasa: | juski: since Compusa is the best prices in town.... |
| [15:04:00] | stuarta: | nasa: have you tried the standard xorg drivers? |
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| [15:04:00] | nasa: | stuarta: they don't support tv-out |
| [15:04:00] | stuarta: | minor technical problem.... |
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| [15:05:00] | nasa: | lol |
| [15:05:00] | stuarta: | hmm. perhaps alternate cabling, so tv-out isn't needed? |
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| [15:06:00] | nasa: | plus, I not sure it's a driver issue. I went back to drivers I had working with .18, and still no love. |
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| [15:06:00] | ** nasa does wish that he had more shopping options than compusa.... ** | |
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| [15:08:00] | sphing: | xris you around? |
| [15:08:00] | juski: | nasa: the symptoms seem too weird to be anything but drivers... mythfrontend hardly does _anything_ drawing the menus |
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| [15:10:00] | juski: | are there any other apps that use Qt in a similar way to mythtv? there must be loads |
| [15:10:00] | nasa: | your right, symptoms are weird. They resemble hardware issues (overheating, bad memory, etc) — but I checked all those (as best I can) |
| [15:10:00] | juski: | I doubt it's overheating the card doing 2D blits |
| [15:11:00] | stuarta: | does the card fan still work... |
| [15:11:00] | nasa: | stuarta: yes (I can hear the damn thing) |
| [15:11:00] | juski: | nasa has said previously that he can run 3d stuff for ages & it's okay |
| [15:11:00] | stuarta: | mine died. followed 6 months later by the card. (on the day I replaced the fan :( |
| [15:11:00] | juski: | problem only seems to happen in mythtv.. select a menu item & it locks X up |
| [15:12:00] | stuarta: | I've seen something a bit similar. |
| [15:12:00] | juski: | nasa: you using it just for sdtv? isn't it a bit overpowered for that anyway? |
| [15:13:00] | stuarta: | Does this happen when previews are running? |
| [15:13:00] | juski: | stuarta: good angle |
| [15:13:00] | juski: | could be an Xv issue |
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| [15:13:00] | nasa: | juski: here a good example. Run MythMusic for 20 min (or less if you like) exist, moving up and down works — try to go up one level and you get no love |
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| [15:14:00] | nasa: | and it no longer will go up and down either |
| [15:14:00] | stuarta: | I'm running a local patch which fixes excessive preview threads. |
| [15:14:00] | nasa: | juski: nah, it stuff I had laying around anyways |
| [15:14:00] | stuarta: | Hammers the X server without it. |
| [15:14:00] | juski: | you had a 9600/whatever lying around? jees |
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| [15:14:00] | nasa: | juski: its only an 8500DV |
| [15:15:00] | Dibblah: | I had a 9600xt in my junk drawer. |
| [15:15:00] | stuarta: | think I might do some frontend profiling once I get my memory... |
| [15:15:00] | Dibblah: | ... Note to self. Don't put higher end video cards in a drawer where they might get squeezed. |
| [15:16:00] | Dibblah: | The core looks a little rounder than it should. |
| [15:16:00] | nasa: | The other way to get it to happen is to switch between the tv guide and most anything else. Sometimes (actually most the time) switching to the guide will do it |
| [15:16:00] | stuarta: | I've a 9800XTpro on my desk. |
| [15:16:00] | stuarta: | sorry 9600xtPro |
| [15:17:00] | stuarta: | nasa: hmm, does it eventually come back, say after a couple of minutes? |
| [15:18:00] | juski: | I'm out of touch with GPUs & stuff. it's ricing for the sake of selling gear |
| [15:18:00] | Dibblah: | Wow. http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/linux-dvb/20 . . . /008423.html |
| [15:18:00] | juski: | |
| [15:18:00] | nasa: | no. and X stays at 99% cpu usage. |
| [15:18:00] | nasa: | like its waiting for something... |
| [15:19:00] | stuarta: | Dibblah: he's a bit of a twat, tho the patches do help. |
| [15:19:00] | epictetus: | try changing windowmanagers |
| [15:19:00] | nasa: | epictetus: you think ratposion could be the issue? |
| [15:19:00] | Dibblah: | Yes, but he's munging together patches, not following the submission guidelines AND pissing off a quite good maintainer. |
| [15:20:00] | stuarta: | pissing off a lot of people |
| [15:20:00] | juski: | is that who borked the cx88 dvb drivers too? |
| [15:20:00] | stuarta: | don't think so |
| [15:20:00] | juski: | wonder if they're all better yet |
| [15:21:00] | juski: | still – I have no reason to upgrade a working kernel |
| [15:21:00] | stuarta: | If I can get rid of the cx88 debug print's I'll be happy. |
| [15:21:00] | Baylink: | "not do do". I dunno; seems like crap to me... |
| [15:21:00] | juski: | 0.19 is erm... cack on a 2.6.14 kernel but superb on 2.6.12-rc4 |
| [15:22:00] | Dibblah: | sed -e s/printk(.*);// |
| [15:22:00] | stuarta: | :) |
| [15:22:00] | Dibblah: | And no, that wouldn't work :) |
| [15:22:00] | Dibblah: | dprintk, even. |
| [15:22:00] | stuarta: | I haven't dug in the source, but there's been talk on the list about it |
| [15:23:00] | stuarta: | hmm, those bt8xx patches stop the APIC warnings, but move the errors. |
| [15:23:00] | stuarta: | Used to be on the ERR interrupt, now on NMI. Not sure if that's better. |
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| [15:24:00] | Dibblah: | No. NMI is worse. |
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| [15:25:00] | stuarta: | That's what I'd thought. |
| [15:28:00] | nasa: | cool, finished compiling from svn (auto) — going to test it out and have breakfast. bbl |
| [15:30:00] | wakko: | anyone home? |
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| [15:31:00] | scopeuk: | nope were all out |
| [15:31:00] | wakko: | heh ;) |
| [15:31:00] | Z-Morek: | okay here's my conundrum |
| [15:31:00] | wakko: | I'm having a lirc problem with installation |
| [15:32:00] | wakko: | I have a P4 with a PVR250 |
| [15:32:00] | wakko: | and I'm using Jarod's guide with redhat |
| [15:32:00] | wakko: | using this lircd.conf: http://www.zen.org/~brendan/mythtv/lircd.conf |
| [15:32:00] | Z-Morek: | where's the problem? |
| [15:32:00] | wakko: | [root@localhost /]# /usr/bin/irw |
| [15:32:00] | wakko: | connect: No such file or directory |
| [15:33:00] | wakko: | happens every time – but the app is in there. |
| [15:33:00] | scopeuk: | does the user its runnign under have the right privilages forthe folder |
| [15:33:00] | Z-Morek: | it's root |
| [15:34:00] | Z-Morek: | unlikely |
| [15:34:00] | Z-Morek: | worth a check tho |
| [15:34:00] | wakko: | I think I checked that last night and it was exacutable |
| [15:34:00] | wakko: | <--- linux newbie |
| [15:35:00] | scopeuk: | heh me too |
| [15:35:00] | wakko: | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4160 Jan 21 12:27 irw |
| [15:36:00] | ** stuarta fondly remembers linux 0.99r13 ** | |
| [15:36:00] | wakko: | heh – I'm an OS X guy. I like Linux, but I feel like I need a degree in computer science to solve problems. |
| [15:36:00] | wakko: | Anyway, lirc is a headache this morning |
| [15:36:00] | ** scopeuk has been there ** | |
| [15:36:00] | Z-Morek: | yeah lirc shit the bed on me too |
| [15:36:00] | scopeuk: | oh wait im still thinking that |
| [15:36:00] | Z-Morek: | I still haven't fixed it |
| [15:37:00] | stuarta: | i get a headache just thinking about thinking about lirc |
| [15:37:00] | wakko: | thanks, by the way. This channel is a great help. |
| [15:37:00] | stuarta: | except on fridays, when we are all cartoon characters :) |
| [15:37:00] | Beirdo: | where's yakko and dot? |
| [15:37:00] | wakko: | I had LIRC working great on my old Myth box 2 years ago, but I had to abandon it and use BeyondTV for a while because I didn't have time to maintain the box. |
| [15:37:00] | Z-Morek: | my problem is that while I am able to run irw and have all the configurations in the right places... no dice... myth doesn't like it |
| [15:38:00] | wakko: | heh that's where I got my kickname. It is on my hockey jerseys. |
| [15:38:00] | wakko: | Well, I'm pretty sure that the lircd.conf file belings in the /etc directory |
| [15:39:00] | ** scopeuk notes that myth is rearly a hell of alot of hatle on legacy ahrdware ** | |
| [15:40:00] | wakko: | I can't wait to run it on my P4 3.4GHz – on an nvidia 6800 |
| [15:40:00] | scopeuk: | mine was / is almost runnign a 433 celeron |
| [15:40:00] | wakko: | old box was a P4 1.8 with a 32MB fry's nvidia card |
| [15:40:00] | wakko: | ran great |
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| [15:41:00] | praet: | got it running well on a p3 733 |
| [15:41:00] | wakko: | killer |
| [15:41:00] | praet: | nvidia 440 |
| [15:41:00] | wakko: | hardware encoding, I bet ;) |
| [15:41:00] | praet: | oh yeah a pvr 250 |
| [15:41:00] | praet: | i would love to see what a decent new proc can do |
| [15:41:00] | wakko: | that's what I'm using |
| [15:42:00] | Kelerion: | you lot just talking about the backend? or combined FE too? |
| [15:42:00] | praet: | combined |
| [15:42:00] | scopeuk: | wakko nope framegraber |
| [15:42:00] | wakko: | I hope to program my harmony 676 remote to use in stead of the hauppage remote |
| [15:42:00] | praet: | ooh nice |
| [15:42:00] | scopeuk: | mine is jsu backend |
| [15:42:00] | praet: | een looking for a nice remote |
| [15:42:00] | wakko: | Get a harmony – it changed my life – seriously |
| [15:42:00] | praet: | that the one with the lcd right |
| [15:42:00] | wakko: | yeah |
| [15:43:00] | ** Kelerion loves the fact he doesn't have to mess about with lirc to get his remote working ** | |
| [15:43:00] | wakko: | it's VERY expensive (almost not worth it) |
| [15:43:00] | praet: | heh |
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| [15:43:00] | ** stuarta can't be bothered with remotes. ** | |
| [15:43:00] | wakko: | I got it for 1/2 price at a Macworld – now I have 2 and my parents have 3 |
| [15:43:00] | wakko: | it is the only remote I have ever found that will control my series 1 sony tivo |
| [15:43:00] | praet: | 116 at newegg |
| [15:44:00] | wakko: | yeah |
| [15:44:00] | wakko: | I think I paid 85. |
| [15:44:00] | wakko: | there are new ones that do more, but the 676 is fantastic |
| [15:44:00] | Z-Morek: | so I'm thinking of starting everything over... keeping my recordings and such and migrating to a new distro from FC3 |
| [15:44:00] | Z-Morek: | just to start clean |
| [15:44:00] | wakko: | A lot of people tell me that fc3 is better than fc4 |
| [15:45:00] | praet: | Z-Morek, back up the db, files and go for it |
| [15:45:00] | praet: | actually i am working on a new sys with a pvr-150.. trying to get the 150 ir blaster to work |
| [15:45:00] | wakko: | Question: is the updatedb command a mythtv command or a Linux command? |
| [15:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | linux |
| [15:45:00] | wakko: | ok thanks |
| [15:46:00] | Z-Morek: | luckily I have two partitions, one with recordings, one with the system files |
| [15:46:00] | Kelerion: | the new Internal – does it play vcd's too anyone know? |
| [15:46:00] | Kelerion: | player – that is |
| [15:46:00] | Z-Morek: | and I have swap and such... but I think I'll backup the db move it and go on my merry way |
| [15:46:00] | wakko: | So I'm not sure where to go with this "No such file or directory" problem with the irw |
| [15:48:00] | wakko: | Perhaps I'll continue to set up the system and come back to the LIRC problem later |
| [15:49:00] | yopla: | hello!!! |
| [15:49:00] | juski: | |
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| [15:49:00] | juski: | wakko: can you make your own macros & stuff? |
| [15:49:00] | wakko: | never done that. |
| [15:49:00] | juski: | but can you? or is it all driven by the daft web page thing? |
| [15:50:00] | wakko: | yeah – the remote is expensive – but I only have one on my coffee table – and it controls EVERYTHING including my Mac (itunes) and my PS2 |
| [15:50:00] | juski: | from what I've seen of the demos it looks too involved, yet not involved enough at the same time |
| [15:50:00] | wakko: | oh – macros on the 676 remote? |
| [15:50:00] | juski: | |
| [15:50:00] | wakko: | sorry – didn;t understand |
| [15:51:00] | juski: | no macros on the OFA-6 that are of any use though |
| [15:51:00] | wakko: | macros are easy. The process is action based – not component based. So you "watch a movie" in stead of turning on TV, DVD, reciever |
| [15:51:00] | juski: | wakko: sounds a little too over-simplified |
| [15:51:00] | wakko: | it programs the actiosn for you. |
| [15:51:00] | wakko: | it is not – I was amazed. |
| [15:51:00] | wakko: | it also learns IR through the front of the remote |
| [15:51:00] | sphing: | wakko: thats amazing |
| [15:52:00] | juski: | watching a movie for me is generally selecting a mythvideo item |
| [15:52:00] | scopeuk: | lol im sure winter olimpics jsut said russia were european |
| [15:52:00] | wakko: | also, they have live support. That's how I added support for my USB IR reciever on my mac |
| [15:52:00] | wakko: | I called, and they added the codes – it updated my remote via USB. |
| [15:52:00] | juski: | I' |
| [15:53:00] | wakko: | Sure, it could be done better, but there's no btter answer out there as of today. |
| [15:53:00] | praet: | juski, got a link to that remote |
| [15:53:00] | wakko: | Anyway, I have to cook some eggs for my little girl. It's president's day in the USA. Day off. |
| [15:54:00] | ** praet didnt get the day off ** | |
| [15:54:00] | wakko: | argh – sorry man |
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| [15:54:00] | cschrader: | morning all |
| [15:55:00] | Z-Morek: | okay so... |
| [15:55:00] | ** Z-Morek puts on flame suit ** | |
| [15:55:00] | Z-Morek: | what distro should I use |
| [15:55:00] | praet: | whatever you are most comfortable with :) |
| [15:55:00] | scopeuk: | what do you normaly use |
| [15:55:00] | Z-Morek: | currently I use fc3 |
| [15:55:00] | scopeuk: | then stick with it |
| [15:55:00] | Z-Morek: | but I'm looking to start everything over from scratch |
| [15:56:00] | praet: | ive used fc4 no problem |
| [15:56:00] | Z-Morek: | and perhaps it was just the packages I chose to install |
| [15:56:00] | Z-Morek: | but it seems bloated to me |
| [15:57:00] | Z-Morek: | I run apt-get upgrade and there's stuff I don't even touch |
| [15:57:00] | Z-Morek: | that's getting upgraded |
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| [15:58:00] | juski: | praet: what remote? ofa6? www.oneforall.com |
| [15:58:00] | praet: | juski, yea. do you have a model no? |
| [15:58:00] | juski: | it's the One For All 6 |
| [15:59:00] | juski: | i'd probably go for a kameleon now though |
| [15:59:00] | juski: | glows in the dark :-) |
| [15:59:00] | juski: | keys are nice & chunky with a good positive action too – and the function LED flashes when you press the keys |
| [16:00:00] | juski: | aaaand it's totally reprogrammable with some PC nifty software (jp1 remote thingy) |
| [16:00:00] | praet: | interesting |
| [16:00:00] | juski: | learn a remote code with irrecord & emulate it on the remote.. complicated but possible |
| [16:01:00] | praet: | the kameleon line is neat too |
| [16:01:00] | juski: | nobody had a working code set for my samsung cable box, but I used irrecord & turned it into RC-5 hex codes |
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| [16:02:00] | cschrader: | i got a mythbox running on gentoo on an asus pundit – never stopped by before, so i figured id stop by and lurk a bit today |
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| [16:04:00] | sphing: | Lovely.... kernel panic wheil doing an emerge --sync |
| [16:04:00] | Dibblah: | I still like http://www.beststuff.co.uk/sky_navigator.htm |
| [16:04:00] | Dibblah: | Well, don't use Gentoo, then ;) |
| [16:05:00] | juski: | I'd have a navigator if it could control my cable box, amp & TV.. but all they can do is basic TV functions |
| [16:05:00] | Dibblah: | Uhuh? Tell that to mine. |
| [16:06:00] | juski: | can it not even do TV on/off/up/down ? |
| [16:06:00] | Dibblah: | Of course, I have an lirc transmitter that 'echos' stuff th the real device. |
| [16:06:00] | juski: | that's a bit gash |
| [16:06:00] | Dibblah: | No – It does TV on / off / up / down / numbers... |
| [16:06:00] | Dibblah: | Depending on the TV remote set. |
| [16:06:00] | praet: | juski, have you upped to .19? |
| [16:07:00] | juski: | yeh. did so on friday |
| [16:08:00] | praet: | apt-get? |
| [16:08:00] | juski: | on gentoo? lol |
| [16:08:00] | praet: | hah |
| [16:08:00] | praet: | did it break anything? |
| [16:08:00] | juski: | not used my bongo box since I was playing with SVN |
| [16:09:00] | juski: | was all pretty straightforward. minimyth 0.19beta2 was a bitch to conquer but I got there in the end |
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| [16:11:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
| [16:12:00] | stuarta: | i see your hmm and raise another hmm! |
| [16:12:00] | praet: | i double dog hmm you |
| [16:12:00] | Jasper: | :p; |
| [16:12:00] | stuarta: | i think you are bluffing! |
| [16:13:00] | Jasper: | me or praet ? |
| [16:13:00] | juski: | actually, I do have a minor niggle with minimyth 0.19 – the video driver is overscanning a little too much – nothing I can't put up with though |
| [16:13:00] | praet: | juski, cant you tweak it |
| [16:13:00] | juski: | nope |
| [16:14:00] | juski: | overscan is either on or off |
| [16:14:00] | praet: | how much is cut off? |
| [16:14:00] | Jasper: | I wish that was my biggest problem :P |
| [16:14:00] | Arkkis: | 95% |
| [16:14:00] | juski: | it was 5% before – now I reckon it's 7% |
| [16:14:00] | Dibblah: | Are the mailing lists just quiet at the moment, or busted? |
| [16:14:00] | stuarta: | it is monday |
| [16:14:00] | juski: | only notice when channels put things outside the safe area though (which they shouldn't – news 24's ticker for example) |
| [16:15:00] | Dibblah: | Still? Damn. |
| [16:15:00] | stuarta: | sadly. yes. |
| [16:15:00] | juski: | stuarta: in the last version of minimyth, the ticker was slap back at the bottom of the visible tube area ;-) |
| [16:15:00] | Dibblah: | Only for another 30 minutes, though. |
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| [16:16:00] | juski: | oh wait I'm not using 720x576NoScale anymore.. using 720x576Over.. 'doh |
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| [16:16:00] | ** stuarta doesn't use overscan or minimyth ** | |
| [16:16:00] | juski: | soon put that right :-) |
| [16:18:00] | juski: | ready to try when I get home |
| [16:18:00] | juski: | where's all the info for the Hauppauge MVP nowadays? thinking about getting it for my kitchen |
| [16:19:00] | wakko: | hey guys |
| [16:19:00] | Jasper: | hmm juski any idea how I can setserial /dev/ttyS0 before lirc_serial gets loaded? |
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| [16:19:00] | wakko: | I'm getting an error: lircd: can't open or create /var/run/lircd.pid |
| [16:19:00] | wakko: | lircd: Permission denied |
| [16:20:00] | wakko: | any idea how I'd set permissions on /var/run/lircd.pid? |
| [16:20:00] | juski: | Jasper: take lirc_serial out of your modules autoloader file |
| [16:20:00] | juski: | /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 |
| [16:20:00] | juski: | take it outta there if it's there |
| [16:21:00] | juski: | aha... mebbe put it in the lircd init script... |
| [16:21:00] | juski: | that's what loads the lirc-serial module isn't it? |
| [16:21:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
| [16:21:00] | dev-: | mmm coco puffs |
| [16:21:00] | Jasper: | dunno.,..but it tries to initialise it before it can.. |
| [16:22:00] | juski: | I can't remember how to initialise lirc... |
| [16:22:00] | dev-: | modules get loaded before init scripts get ran |
| [16:22:00] | juski: | even in lirc's case? |
| [16:22:00] | wakko: | are there alternatives to lirc? |
| [16:22:00] | dev-: | either you take it out of autoload and load the module manually, or fix the problem :D |
| [16:22:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
| [16:22:00] | wakko: | besides getting up and pressing buttons on the TV and stereo? ;) |
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| [16:22:00] | juski: | wakko: employ a domestic slave or two |
| [16:23:00] | wakko: | ooh – good idea – gotta have more kids. |
| [16:23:00] | wakko: | ;) |
| [16:23:00] | juski: | they make great air conditioners too I hear |
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| [16:23:00] | dev-: | Jasper: you could remote it from autoload then modify the init script to load the module, but its a hack and a bandaid and blah blah :) |
| [16:23:00] | dev-: | a 1 off that will cause you the problem again later when you upgrade hehe |
| [16:23:00] | Jasper: | yup |
| [16:23:00] | dev-: | er, remove it. heh not remote. |
| [16:23:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
| [16:23:00] | Jasper: | this looks better |
| [16:24:00] | Jasper: | but now I get start-stop-deamon: stat /usr/sbin/lircd no such file or directory |
| [16:24:00] | juski: | or make your own init script ;-) |
| [16:24:00] | Jasper: | I think it's still there from the emerge |
| [16:24:00] | Jasper: | that might be the problem |
| [16:24:00] | juski: | i.e. copy the original, modify & save as something else |
| [16:25:00] | Jasper: | I had to to do the manual compile...becuase emerge didn't work |
| [16:25:00] | dev-: | why didnt emerge work? |
| [16:25:00] | defaultro: | xris? |
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| [16:26:00] | Jasper: | dev- for some reason it didn't work with my serial receiver |
| [16:26:00] | Jasper: | kept giving me errors about symbols missing |
| [16:26:00] | dev-: | did you set lirc_opts in make.conf? |
| [16:26:00] | Jasper: | and when I manually compiled it, it worked fine |
| [16:27:00] | juski: | are lirc_opts documented anywhere apart from in the ebuild files themselves? |
| [16:28:00] | juski: | basic question: or can you use emerge so show you what the options are? |
| [16:28:00] | Jasper: | prolly |
| [16:28:00] | Jasper: | emerge -pv |
| [16:28:00] | Jasper: | and see what's 0 |
| [16:28:00] | Jasper: | - |
| [16:28:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [16:28:00] | dev-: | lirc_opts are just configure options for lirc |
| [16:28:00] | dev-: | so they're documented in lircs docs basically hehe |
| [16:28:00] | jams: | Jasper- what kernel and lirc version? |
| [16:29:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
| [16:29:00] | Jasper: | this is weird |
| [16:29:00] | Jasper: | could not open /dev/lirc |
| [16:29:00] | juski: | lircs extensive, verbose documentation. hmm |
| [16:29:00] | dev-: | weird things are bad :) |
| [16:29:00] | Jasper: | default_init(): is a directory |
| [16:29:00] | Jasper: | could not init hardware.. |
| [16:29:00] | Jasper: | hmm, it worked before the reboot |
| [16:29:00] | Jasper: | :( |
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| [16:29:00] | dev-: | device name probably changed to /dev/lirc/[0–1] — no biggy. |
| [16:30:00] | Jasper: | yeah I got a dev/lirc/0 |
| [16:30:00] | Jasper: | but why did it change after the reboot ? :P |
| [16:30:00] | dev-: | because you didnt hup or restart lircd before you rebooted? |
| [16:30:00] | Jasper: | prolly |
| [16:30:00] | dev-: | or it reloaded a newly compiled module that wasnt loaded before, rather |
| [16:31:00] | dev-: | since lircd doesnt create the device, the kernel module does. |
| [16:31:00] | Jasper: | but it's using /dev/lirc |
| [16:31:00] | Jasper: | ah |
| [16:31:00] | dev-: | thats not gonna work now is it? :) |
| [16:31:00] | Jasper: | it's trying to use /dev/lirc as a device.. |
| [16:31:00] | Jasper: | but it's a dir |
| [16:31:00] | Jasper: | with 0 in it |
| [16:31:00] | Jasper: | hmm, have to pry in the config files I'm affraid :P |
| [16:32:00] | dev-: | heh its just one file |
| [16:32:00] | Jasper: | where is it stored? |
| [16:32:00] | dev-: | where all the other init config files are stored |
| [16:33:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
| [16:34:00] | juski: | starts in /etc/ and ends with init.d ;-) |
| [16:34:00] | dev-: | negative |
| [16:34:00] | dev-: | its a gentoo specific thing. |
| [16:34:00] | Dibblah: | /etc/conf.d |
| [16:34:00] | laga: | /etc/conf.d? |
| [16:35:00] | Dibblah: | Ha! ;) |
| [16:35:00] | dev-: | give a man a fish, he will be fed for a day. teach a man to fish, and he can feed himself for life; |
| [16:35:00] | juski: | see – I've told you all before I shouldn't be a gentoo user |
| [16:35:00] | dev-: | you guys should learn this |
| [16:35:00] | Dibblah: | There's a similar saying about fire. |
| [16:35:00] | Jasper: | irw: connect: connection refused :P |
| [16:35:00] | juski: | I just want it to work – don't care _how_ it works ;) |
| [16:36:00] | Dibblah: | Gentoo is all about choice – Choose something else! ;) |
| [16:36:00] | wakko: | give a man a match and he'll be warm for a minute – light him on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. |
| [16:36:00] | dev-: | all 5minutes of it |
| [16:36:00] | juski: | give a man a choice & he'll make the wrong one |
| [16:36:00] | Dibblah: | Only if there's a woman about. |
| [16:37:00] | dev-: | juski: thats quite a broad statement, i doubt ever single choice ive made in my life was bad lol/. |
| [16:37:00] | praet: | Jasper, try running irw specifying the port |
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| [16:37:00] | Dibblah: | Jasper: lircd has died because it couldn't open the device. |
| [16:37:00] | juski: | my only regret in life is that I didn't start using linux earlier |
| [16:37:00] | Dibblah: | It's annoying that way – It only tries to open the device on the first client connection. |
| [16:38:00] | praet: | aslo check permissions on the lircd |
| [16:38:00] | juski: | I should know all this – I got lirc working the hard way on gentoo in the past |
| [16:38:00] | Jasper: | well |
| [16:38:00] | Jasper: | cat /dev/lirc/0 works fine.. |
| [16:38:00] | Jasper: | but the rest of it ...omg |
| [16:38:00] | Dibblah: | Uhuh. But is it configured not to use /dev/lirc? |
| [16:38:00] | juski: | so erm.. edit your conf.d |
| [16:39:00] | juski: | /etc/conf.d/lircd |
| [16:39:00] | dev-: | i say format, reinstall windows, buy windows media center |
| [16:39:00] | dev-: | and have fun |
| [16:39:00] | dev-: | :D |
| [16:39:00] | praet: | hahah |
| [16:39:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
| [16:39:00] | Dibblah: | If it's gentoo, it's /etc/conf.d/lircd |
| [16:39:00] | juski: | LIRCD_OPTS=" -d /dev/lirc/0" is what you should have Jasper |
| [16:39:00] | Jasper: | I say I bought a new video card..and can't get xvmc to work :( |
| [16:39:00] | praet: | dev- i see dell laptops coming in with mce |
| [16:39:00] | Jasper: | after 3 days of trying |
| [16:39:00] | juski: | Jasper I told you |
| [16:39:00] | praet: | but they have no tv capture cards.. |
| [16:39:00] | juski: | emerge xvattr |
| [16:40:00] | Jasper: | I did that juski |
| [16:40:00] | Jasper: | nothing helped |
| [16:40:00] | Jasper: | what happends is.. |
| [16:40:00] | juski: | did you do the xvattr set xvcolorkey thingy? |
| [16:40:00] | Jasper: | my screen goes black..I hear sound for 1 second |
| [16:40:00] | Jasper: | juski it doesn't know colorkey |
| [16:40:00] | juski: | doesn't it? so erm.. damn |
| [16:41:00] | Jasper: | apparently the new nvidia's don't work with that anymore? |
| [16:41:00] | Jasper: | that's what I heard.. |
| [16:41:00] | Dibblah: | Bzzt. |
| [16:41:00] | juski: | nahhh.. that'd be too far a retrograde step to take |
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| [16:43:00] | Jasper: | yeah..wlel |
| [16:43:00] | Jasper: | like I said..I head sound for 1 sec...blank screen...then my x freezes |
| [16:43:00] | Jasper: | not really the sings of a correct working xvmc :P |
| [16:44:00] | Jasper: | I hope |
| [16:44:00] | ivor: | Jasper: which nvidia card is it? |
| [16:44:00] | dev-: | so i guess your lirc troubles are all fixed now? |
| [16:44:00] | Jasper: | 6200 |
| [16:44:00] | Jasper: | no dev not yet |
| [16:44:00] | juski: | and version 7667 of the drivers |
| [16:44:00] | dev-: | moving on to a new problem then |
| [16:44:00] | dev-: | lol.. |
| [16:44:00] | Jasper: | I had lirc working before I Decided to emerge mythtv with lirc and go to bed |
| [16:44:00] | Jasper: | and having lirc emerge over my old installation |
| [16:44:00] | Jasper: | not really nice that was |
| [16:45:00] | juski: | see, mixing emerging with hand-made builds is messy |
| [16:45:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [16:46:00] | juski: | I don't even think you can force portage into thinking it's installed when it's not, any more |
| [16:46:00] | Jasper: | so what I did, I removed lircd from booting...now I try setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart none and then modprobe lirc_serial |
| [16:46:00] | Jasper: | no problems until now |
| [16:46:00] | Jasper: | yeah juski |
| [16:46:00] | Jasper: | that's what I tried.. |
| [16:46:00] | Dibblah: | --nodeps |
| [16:46:00] | Jasper: | no succes |
| [16:46:00] | Jasper: | dibblah that won';t work with a world emerge |
| [16:46:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [16:47:00] | Dibblah: | It will, just won't do all that much ;) |
| [16:47:00] | juski: | any command with a 31 page manual shouldn't be used by mere mortals ;) |
| [16:47:00] | Dibblah: | Well, that's bash out, then. |
| [16:47:00] | juski: | and prolly cp – lol |
| [16:47:00] | Dibblah: | Oh. And Myth. |
| [16:47:00] | Jasper: | could it be that irrecord uses a different config? |
| [16:48:00] | juski: | you can tell irrecord what device to use |
| [16:48:00] | Jasper: | and still be trying to connect to the old device? |
| [16:48:00] | juski: | irrecord -d isn't it? |
| [16:48:00] | juski: | e.g. irrecord -d /dev/lirc/0 |
| [16:48:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
| [16:48:00] | Jasper: | yeah that works now |
| [16:48:00] | Jasper: | so how do I select mythtv to work with that toot :P |
| [16:49:00] | juski: | you changed that conf.d/lircd file yet? |
| [16:49:00] | Jasper: | yea |
| [16:49:00] | wakko: | is apt-get part of fc4? I see references to it inJarod's guide, but I get an error command not found. |
| [16:49:00] | juski: | I think you can start the lircd daemon without its init script |
| [16:49:00] | Dibblah: | <windows>Did you reboot?</windows> ;) |
| [16:49:00] | dev-: | haha |
| [16:50:00] | juski: | very very hacky though |
| [16:50:00] | Z-Morek: | anyone have positive sentiments towards debian as a myth distro? |
| [16:50:00] | Dibblah: | Meh. |
| [16:50:00] | epictetus: | I just built a mythbox with debian |
| [16:50:00] | wakko: | ? |
| [16:50:00] | dev-: | debians a great distro |
| [16:50:00] | epictetus: | a few issues i have with debian and myth: |
| [16:50:00] | dev-: | myth is not a distro |
| [16:51:00] | stuarta: | Z-Morek: wouldn't use anything else. |
| [16:51:00] | Dibblah: | Debian's for wimps without compile-farms ;) |
| [16:51:00] | epictetus: | 1. No up-to-date lirc package available in sarge or sid |
| [16:51:00] | dev-: | and if idiots were planes, gentoo would be the airport |
| [16:51:00] | ivor: | Dibblah: I can't imagine anyone wouldn't have a compile rack.... surely? |
| [16:51:00] | Z-Morek: | I'm currently running fc3 |
| [16:52:00] | epictetus: | 2. A number of other libraries/etc not available as packages |
| [16:52:00] | juski: | and folks wonder why linux hasn't yet overtaken windows on desktops ... |
| [16:52:00] | Z-Morek: | but it just feels bloated to me... most likely because I installed way too many packages initially |
| [16:52:00] | ivor: | juski: hasn't it? oh I thought it did a while ago. |
| [16:52:00] | dev-: | i dont wonder at all. linux takes some clue to use. osx does a pretty good job of allowing morons to use a unix based os. but still, it takes a little bit of clue |
| [16:52:00] | dev-: | windows takes no clue. |
| [16:53:00] | Z-Morek: | and going from windows to linux has been a jump for me |
| [16:53:00] | wakko: | actually, OS X is for users, Linux is for engineers. |
| [16:53:00] | epictetus: | the main thing with myth is that having a bleeding-edge distro can really help, just because a number of things it does can utilize bleeding-edge functionality |
| [16:53:00] | Beirdo: | windows REQUIRES you to have no clue |
| [16:53:00] | wakko: | both have positive uses. |
| [16:53:00] | ** laga actually wonders why he keeps recompiling all his packages on his new gentoo install *shrug* ** | |
| [16:53:00] | dev-: | wakko: if you decide to do anything, hrm, good, with osx, you still need to open a console and modify things |
| [16:53:00] | wakko: | heh – but I agree withtthe windows sentiment |
| [16:53:00] | Z-Morek: | I started off easy with packages |
| [16:53:00] | Beirdo: | laga: because you're being a gentool ;) |
| [16:53:00] | Z-Morek: | I want to dive in now |
| [16:53:00] | laga: | Beirdo: hehe :) |
| [16:53:00] | juski: | the more you know, the less you feel able to do with windows, I agree |
| [16:53:00] | dev-: | half the windows users i know cant even type. so that rules them out |
| [16:53:00] | wakko: | not true – I use OS X for design, vudei, and 3D modeling/animation. Linux is simply not there yet. |
| [16:53:00] | laga: | Beirdo: i emerged gcc like 8 times in 2 days. that's not bad, huh? :) |
| [16:54:00] | wakko: | video (typing too fast) |
| [16:54:00] | Beirdo: | geez, that's just lame |
| [16:54:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [16:54:00] | Z-Morek: | I figure I should switch up distros to something less noobish |
| [16:54:00] | juski: | "help! my cappy teevee cardy not worky worky. i clickd on the thing but it not worky" |
| [16:54:00] | Z-Morek: | I figure what's less noobish than debian |
| [16:54:00] | ivor: | juski: hehe.. anyway... it's 5 to 5... shouldn't you be heading home? |
| [16:54:00] | juski: | laga: so stop emerging everything with -u ;-) |
| [16:55:00] | juski: | I should be heading home |
| [16:55:00] | juski: | yeh |
| [16:55:00] | epictetus: | Z-Morek: also, do you use kernels that come with distributions? |
| [16:55:00] | laga: | juski: but why, the gentoo forums tell me that ;) |
| [16:55:00] | nasa: | How do you connect a remote frontend to the backend? I followed the unsafe options here: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html#modify_perm_mysql |
| [16:55:00] | epictetus: | Z-Morek: or compile your own.. |
| [16:55:00] | Z-Morek: | :-( distro.... |
| [16:55:00] | juski: | nasa: network cables are a good option |
| [16:55:00] | dev-: | lol |
| [16:55:00] | Beirdo: | I want steak! |
| [16:55:00] | epictetus: | Z-Morek: because there can be vast hardware-support differences if you are using a debian kernel. depending on what hardware is in your machine |
| [16:55:00] | ** nasa asked for that ** | |
| [16:55:00] | Z-Morek: | should I dive in THAT deep to compile kernels? |
| [16:55:00] | Beirdo: | damn this liquid diet |
| [16:55:00] | epictetus: | Compiling a kernel isn't really hard at all |
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| [16:56:00] | ivor: | Beirdo: oooh beer now there's a thought..... |
| [16:56:00] | dev-: | every distro runs the same kernel, you wont have better hardware support in gentoo than you do in debian. |
| [16:56:00] | Beirdo: | beer is not allowed with the pain killers |
| [16:56:00] | ** stuarta lobs a beer at ivor ** | |
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| [16:56:00] | nasa: | ok, assuming I can ssh into the remote box.... What needs to happen for frontend to work |
| [16:56:00] | Beirdo: | if I was allowed booze, I'd be steadily lowering my scotch supply |
| [16:56:00] | dev-: | Beirdo: just 'recommended' not to drink with pain killers, but it sure makes them a hellava lot more fun |
| [16:56:00] | ** ivor catches it, downs it, burps and goes hunting for crisps. ** | |
| [16:57:00] | Z-Morek: | epictetus: I assume there's plentiful guides out there to guide me thru compiling a kernel |
| [16:57:00] | Beirdo: | no, it KILLS your liver |
| [16:57:00] | wakko: | If I was allowed booze, I'd probably understand Linux better. |
| [16:57:00] | Beirdo: | and I like mine to stay working |
| [16:57:00] | Beirdo: | thanks though :) |
| [16:57:00] | dev-: | Beirdo: depends on the amount of acetometiphin you're taking and the amount of liquor you're drinking |
| [16:57:00] | laga: | wakko: i tried it, didn't help |
| [16:57:00] | Z-Morek: | but would it pay off in the end to go thru all of that instead of using packages on fc3 |
| [16:57:00] | dev-: | Beirdo: if you keep the aceo to 2grams max in the day, you can definitely have a couple swigs of scotch |
| [16:57:00] | juski: | Linux is 'free' as in 'beer'. totally understand that now |
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| [16:57:00] | Beirdo: | it's really bad for your liver even in moderation |
| [16:58:00] | wakko: | ;) |
| [16:58:00] | Beirdo: | you can fux0r yours, I'll pass |
| [16:58:00] | dev-: | ive been on painkillers for years, and have 6month blood tests done |
| [16:58:00] | dev-: | i drink, smoke weed, and take vicodin es and flexeril |
| [16:58:00] | dev-: | my liver is perfect :) |
| [16:58:00] | ivor: | LOL |
| [16:58:00] | wakko: | Yes, Linux is bad for your liver. |
| [16:58:00] | dev-: | its like unix, if you know what you're doing you wont run into problems |
| [16:58:00] | splat1 is now known as splAt1 | |
| [16:58:00] | dev-: | its like unix, if you dont knwo what you're doing, you'll hose your shit |
| [16:58:00] | dev-: | aceto is what fucks up your liver |
| [16:58:00] | Beirdo: | bah |
| [16:58:00] | splAt1 is now known as splat1 | |
| [16:58:00] | dev-: | you're allowed 4grams a day |
| [16:59:00] | ivor: | ok hands up anyone who gives a shit? |
| [16:59:00] | dev-: | you can replace aceto for liquor, but its about moderation and not about drinking 12 beers and takeing 3.5grams of aceto — thats bad. |
| [16:59:00] | Beirdo: | anyways... |
| [16:59:00] | juski: | for the sake of a week or so not boozing, it's not worth the risk :) |
| [16:59:00] | dev-: | ivor — just as much as who gives a shit if your x isnt working, since this isnt a #fix_your_x_because_you're_a_noob channel. |
| [16:59:00] | Z-Morek: | mythtv-users- where people come to talk about linux and drugs |
| [16:59:00] | Beirdo: | lipitor already does enough damage anyways |
| [16:59:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
| [16:59:00] | Jasper: | k |
| [17:00:00] | ** juski drinks far less than the recommended 21 unit maximum.. until he goes out drinking.. then it's like 40 units in a night ** | |
| [17:00:00] | Jasper: | I got like 10 buttons to work now in mythtv |
| [17:00:00] | Jasper: | but for some MYSTERIOUS reason.. |
| [17:00:00] | Jasper: | the 9 and the 0 don't work |
| [17:00:00] | Jasper: | and the left right up down keys don't work either ? |
| [17:00:00] | juski: | Jasper: check the lircrc and lircd.conf files |
| [17:00:00] | wakko: | The drug talk is a pleasant diversion, even if I never touch the stuff (booze/druga, that is. . .) |
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| [17:00:00] | juski: | right... 5pm I'm outta here |
| [17:00:00] | juski: | quitski |
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| [17:00:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, I only take meds I've been prescribed |
| [17:01:00] | Beirdo: | unless I have a migraine |
| [17:01:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:01:00] | stuarta: | then they are self prescribed :) |
| [17:01:00] | dev-: | me too :D except for weed |
| [17:01:00] | dev-: | nothing like a good joint every so often |
| [17:01:00] | Beirdo: | then I self-prescribe ibuprofen or acetominophen |
| [17:01:00] | Beirdo: | no thanks |
| [17:01:00] | Beirdo: | weed is way overrated |
| [17:01:00] | wakko: | I smoked weed once – didn't enjoy it much. I ride bikes a lot – it would interfere with my activity. |
| [17:01:00] | dev-: | who cares how its rated, its if you enjoy it or not that matters |
| [17:01:00] | Beirdo: | I don't |
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| [17:02:00] | Beirdo: | and I don't smoke cigars anymore either |
| [17:02:00] | Beirdo: | those WERE enjoyable |
| [17:02:00] | wakko: | I smoke about 2 cigars/year with my dad & bro |
| [17:02:00] | ivor: | much prefer a nice Cohiba. |
| [17:02:00] | wakko: | it's nice |
| [17:02:00] | wakko: | Hada cuban cohiba in Germany last year. |
| [17:02:00] | wakko: | It was good |
| [17:02:00] | Jasper: | hm |
| [17:02:00] | Beirdo: | my finacee doesn't like cigars |
| [17:02:00] | Jasper: | the commands are menuup and menudown righT? |
| [17:02:00] | Jasper: | for lirc? |
| [17:02:00] | wakko: | too painful? |
| [17:02:00] | Beirdo: | so I ain't smokin em anymore |
| [17:03:00] | dev-: | cigars are bad for you ;) |
| [17:03:00] | ivor: | Beirdo: haven't you got a conservatory/shed? :D |
| [17:03:00] | dev-: | cigarettes too. |
| [17:03:00] | Beirdo: | shed? |
| [17:03:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [17:03:00] | Beirdo: | and even if I did, she doesn't want me smoking, I won't smoke |
| [17:03:00] | Dibblah: | I like flux. Not this newfangled good-for-you stuff, either. The old, curls around your head in ribbons kind. |
| [17:03:00] | Beirdo: | woman >> cigar |
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| [17:03:00] | wakko: | I try to only smoke when I'm on fire – so it's rare. |
| [17:04:00] | ivor: | Beirdo: true, but an occasional one is nice. |
| [17:04:00] | ivor: | (cigar that is) |
| [17:04:00] | wakko: | heh |
| [17:04:00] | wakko: | Give me a coca cola and a mountain bike any day. |
| [17:04:00] | Beirdo: | I'll only ever smoke a cigar again with her permission :) |
| [17:04:00] | Dibblah: | Awww... That's sweet. |
| [17:04:00] | Dibblah: | Or cheesy. Not quite sure. |
| [17:04:00] | dev-: | Beirdo: whipped? hehe |
| [17:04:00] | ** dev- makes whipping noises ** | |
| [17:04:00] | dev-: | WHIP IT GOOD |
| [17:04:00] | dev-: | :) |
| [17:05:00] | wakko: | That's what I was tinking, but I didn't want to say ;) |
| [17:05:00] | Beirdo: | whip it all ya want. :) |
| [17:05:00] | dev-: | my fiance hakes me smokin weed, but she deals |
| [17:05:00] | Jasper: | christ |
| [17:05:00] | Jasper: | how can 0 until 8 work |
| [17:05:00] | Jasper: | erm |
| [17:05:00] | Jasper: | 1 till 8 |
| [17:05:00] | Jasper: | and 0 and 9 fail? |
| [17:05:00] | Beirdo: | dev-, I hope you like google indexing your weed habit |
| [17:05:00] | dev-: | yeah i dont mind |
| [17:06:00] | Jasper: | dev- any idea? |
| [17:06:00] | dev-: | its not like i irc from home, or even from a host that remotely connects back to me |
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| [17:06:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:06:00] | Beirdo: | well, whatever :) |
| [17:06:00] | dev-: | my first guess would be your binds in lircrc, jasper |
| [17:07:00] | Jasper: | yeah but they're the same for 1 until 8 as they are for 0 and 9 |
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| [17:07:00] | Beirdo: | OMG, I'm running outta stuff to watch |
| [17:07:00] | Z-Morek: | so overall, debian isn't really that much better for a linux noob than fc3 |
| [17:07:00] | Z-Morek: | even if I want to dive in |
| [17:08:00] | Z-Morek: | because it's a bit too involved for me at this point in time... correct? |
| [17:08:00] | Dibblah: | Oh yay. Looks like another "Isaac's tired of all the rubbish and shouted at me. Wah wah wah." on the ML. |
| [17:08:00] | Z-Morek: | ? |
| [17:08:00] | Beirdo: | down to 70h |
| [17:08:00] | Beirdo: | of which 12h is Muppets, 4h is Simpsons |
| [17:08:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:09:00] | wakko: | Hey guys – if I created a volume called /video for my video files when I ran disk druid, then is the correct syntax for mythsetup's video location supposed to be /video ? |
| [17:09:00] | wakko: | Muppets rock. |
| [17:09:00] | Dibblah: | No, that's fraggle rock. |
| [17:09:00] | jvs: | :) |
| [17:09:00] | wakko: | heh – I wish I had some Linux Doozers. |
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| [17:10:00] | wakko: | do I need to specify /video? or do I need to specify hda/video or sumthin like that? |
| [17:11:00] | Dibblah: | You need to have it mounted. |
| [17:11:00] | Dibblah: | It needs to be in your fstab. |
| [17:11:00] | wakko: | it is, but I'm not sure how to reference it from within mythsetup. |
| [17:11:00] | wakko: | I can navigate to it using the GUI |
| [17:11:00] | Dibblah: | Well, if it's mounted under /video, then just call it /video :) |
| [17:11:00] | wakko: | ok – thanks. I'm not sure how these things are referenced. |
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| [17:14:00] | ** Dibblah wishes qmake wasn't so... Simplistic. ** | |
| [17:14:00] | Dibblah: | It pretends to be complex in annoyingly wrong ways :( |
| [17:14:00] | ** Beirdo wishes qmake wasn't ** | |
| [17:14:00] | Dibblah: | Now that I can agree with. |
| [17:16:00] | dev-: | i think im gonna roll a doob right now actually |
| [17:16:00] | dev-: | HEHE |
| [17:16:00] | dev-: | yay for day off |
| [17:16:00] | Beirdo: | get high on yer own time, commie :) |
| [17:16:00] | wakko: | Question: where to I g to set up a datadirect account? |
| [17:17:00] | Beirdo: | you RTFM :) |
| [17:17:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:17:00] | Beirdo: | it's in the mythtv docs :) |
| [17:17:00] | Dibblah: | As an example, I want make to look like http://pastebin.ca/42219 |
| [17:17:00] | dev-: | this is my own time :P im on PTO today, watching sports disasters, going to play animal crossing after this doob i think |
| [17:17:00] | Chutt: | why do i have to deal with morons on the dev list? |
| [17:17:00] | wakko: | I'm looking all over – I see references on how to use datadirect, but no links on where to go to set up an account |
| [17:17:00] | dev-: | Chutt: heh |
| [17:17:00] | Chutt: | i can understand them being on the users list |
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| [17:17:00] | sphing: | because anyone can signup for the dev list |
| [17:17:00] | Chutt: | ok, so, say you're sneezing |
| [17:18:00] | Beirdo: | wakko, it's there... the site is labs.zap2it.com |
| [17:18:00] | dev-: | i bet people think they'll get better sypport on the dev list or something |
| [17:18:00] | Chutt: | do you call up your docter and ask for flu medicine? |
| [17:18:00] | wakko: | oh – datadirect is zap2it – same thing? |
| [17:18:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [17:18:00] | wakko: | I have a zap2it account from a few years back. |
| [17:18:00] | wakko: | thanks – that's what I needed to know. |
| [17:18:00] | Beirdo: | it's a different account though |
| [17:18:00] | wakko: | oh |
| [17:18:00] | Beirdo: | you need to specially sign up, and the instructions are in the myth docs somewhere |
| [17:19:00] | wakko: | ok – thx |
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| [17:19:00] | scottder: | When transcoding can the commflag points be used for cuts while transcoding? |
| [17:19:00] | Jasper: | w |
| [17:19:00] | Jasper: | can anyone tell me what's the correct name |
| [17:19:00] | Jasper: | for menu up and down in lirc? |
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| [17:22:00] | Dibblah: | 1/1 s/n ratio on -dev. Impressive. |
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| [17:23:00] | Z-Morek: | I've given up on svn, how do I remove that install and return to apt |
| [17:23:00] | gremlin484: | I'm getting a "Database Setup Error" with mythweb. |
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| [17:24:00] | gremlin484: | my .htaccess files and conf.php files appear to be set up correctly |
| [17:24:00] | sphing: | never setting up distcc a few months back is biting me in the ass now |
| [17:24:00] | rogier: | Hello. When watching tv, my channels are mixed up half of the time somehow. While when I watch the guid they are perfectly ordered on chanel number. Anybody got an idea what could be causing this? I see no related messages on the console when I start mythbackend and mythfrontedn from there.... |
| [17:24:00] | gremlin484: | i've followed the documentation to the tee. Anyone have any ideas... |
| [17:25:00] | Dibblah: | sphing: Don't mix versions of GCC. That way madness lies. |
| [17:25:00] | rogier: | Ah, spelling is not my best point. Hah. |
| [17:26:00] | scottder: | gremlin484: is the AllowOveride in httpd.conf set right? |
| [17:26:00] | wakko: | Is there anyone out there in the south SF bay area who will come over and set up my Myth box for $100 and a pizza? |
| [17:27:00] | dev-: | haha |
| [17:27:00] | dev-: | i so would |
| [17:27:00] | wakko: | I'd pay it – heh. |
| [17:27:00] | dev-: | but i dont live there |
| [17:27:00] | wakko: | worth it to be |
| [17:27:00] | wakko: | me |
| [17:27:00] | Dibblah: | I would, but the tickets'd kill ya ;) |
| [17:27:00] | wakko: | heh ;) |
| [17:28:00] | gremlin484: | Well, I'm not sure... I've tried All, None, and AuthConfig |
| [17:28:00] | gremlin484: | none of them have worked.... |
| [17:28:00] | gremlin484: | (resetting the apache server each time of course) |
| [17:28:00] | wakko: | I'd pay $50 paypal to someone who'd do it via ssh and vnc |
| [17:28:00] | wakko: | I wonder if there's a business idea there |
| [17:29:00] | sphing: | whats the problem |
| [17:29:00] | Dibblah: | Too many steps, by the sound of it ;) |
| [17:29:00] | wakko: | yeah |
| [17:30:00] | Dibblah: | Believe it or not, it's getting better. |
| [17:30:00] | wakko: | I'm new to Linux. I think I'm a fairly adept computer geek, but there are so many technologies involved in MythTV, and so many of them are implemented poorly or in such a way that they are VERY hard to configuew for someone like me. |
| [17:31:00] | wakko: | configure |
| [17:31:00] | Chutt: | if you think that, you're not 'adept'. |
| [17:31:00] | wakko: | I'd pay $250 for a CD that just installs Linux, asks me questions about my hardware, and just works. |
| [17:31:00] | Merlin83b: | wakko: I may get shouted at for suggesting it, but have you tried KnoppMyth? |
| [17:31:00] | Chutt: | like most modern distros? |
| [17:31:00] | wakko: | Well, I'm adept with the tools I do use, I am just not a CS major. |
| [17:32:00] | wakko: | I tried knoppmyth, it never worked really. |
| [17:32:00] | Chutt: | except they autodetect most things, so it'd be rather pointless to ask the user questions |
| [17:32:00] | Z-Morek: | I hated knoppmyth |
| [17:32:00] | Z-Morek: | never worked... too much of a middleman |
| [17:32:00] | Merlin83b: | Fair enough. Worked perfectly for me and as a result I know have a decent working FE/BE on an Epia and am tracking SVN. |
| [17:32:00] | Z-Morek: | better off doing the dirty work yourself |
| [17:33:00] | wakko: | I guess I love the concept of MythTV, I really do. But it's very much a tool only for those who are truly comfortable behind a command line interface. |
| [17:33:00] | sphing: | wakko: ... so whats your problem |
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| [17:33:00] | Dibblah: | Depends. I've done Myth on RH, LFS and Gentoo. Stuck with Gentoo at the moment :) |
| [17:33:00] | sphing: | Chutt: is playback more cpu intensive in .19 than .18.1, I've noticied my xbox getting a little choppy with the new version |
| [17:33:00] | Z-Morek: | I'm currently fixing my FC rig |
| [17:34:00] | Merlin83b: | wakko: And that's what KnoppMyth attempts to solve. More work to be done, but I personally am a fan of the project. |
| [17:34:00] | wakko: | Ah – well, I just get frustrated with all the convoluted documentation and non-working steps. I have a video setup that I can't get working on TV out, my LIRC is TOTALLY broken, and I am having a hard time finding the datadirect documentation. |
| [17:34:00] | Dibblah: | Okay. Fix the easiest first - |
| [17:34:00] | Dibblah: | What's your distro? Gentoo? |
| [17:34:00] | wakko: | RedHat – Jarod's guide |
| [17:35:00] | Dibblah: | Eh? That should just work... |
| [17:35:00] | wakko: | I actually got this working a few years back, but I had to give it up – it was way too hard to maintain, and life got busy. |
| [17:35:00] | dev-: | heh |
| [17:35:00] | wakko: | I really do appreciate this channel. |
| [17:35:00] | dev-: | windows media center 4 u |
| [17:35:00] | dev-: | ;p |
| [17:36:00] | wakko: | NOOOOOO!!!!! |
| [17:36:00] | wakko: | no MCE – ever. |
| [17:36:00] | dev-: | if you think myth is too hard to maintain... i dunno... |
| [17:36:00] | wakko: | I won a license to BeyndTV. It was ok, but their implementation of DIVX simply sucks. |
| [17:36:00] | wakko: | Myth was GREAT when it worked. REALLY great. |
| [17:37:00] | Z-Morek: | I'm such a linux noob I reboot after every upgrade |
| [17:37:00] | wakko: | you don;t have to reboot after upgrades? |
| [17:37:00] | Dibblah: | Okay, wakko: What does lsmod show? Does it show the lirc_serial module loaded? |
| [17:37:00] | Beirdo: | only if you upgrade the kernel |
| [17:37:00] | wakko: | [root@localhost mythtv]# lsmod |
| [17:37:00] | wakko: | bash: lsmod: command not found |
| [17:38:00] | Dibblah: | ...? |
| [17:38:00] | Beirdo: | nice path |
| [17:38:00] | wakko: | yeah – this is what I've been dealing with |
| [17:38:00] | Beirdo: | /sbin/lsmod |
| [17:38:00] | Dibblah: | Tell me RH doesn't suck that much? |
| [17:38:00] | dev-: | redhat tries to keep people out of /sbin and /usr/sbin |
| [17:38:00] | dev-: | ;p |
| [17:38:00] | wakko: | ah – that worked |
| [17:38:00] | Dibblah: | Eww. |
| [17:39:00] | Z-Morek: | yeah it gets confusing when someone tries to help along and a command doesn't work |
| [17:39:00] | wakko: | how do I grep lirc from lsmod? |
| [17:39:00] | Z-Morek: | been there done that |
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| [17:39:00] | wakko: | it's a big list |
| [17:39:00] | dev-: | um, with grep? |
| [17:39:00] | sphing: | :: blank stare :: |
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| [17:39:00] | wakko: | isn't there a way to do a lsmod | grep lirc or somethign like that? |
| [17:40:00] | dev-: | i dunno wakko, knoppmyth or go back to windows — you will have a very rough timing setting up myth if you dont know anything about unix |
| [17:40:00] | dev-: | like grepping. |
| [17:40:00] | sphing: | :: longer blank stare :: |
| [17:40:00] | wakko: | eh I may be dreaming. |
| [17:40:00] | wakko: | don;t know – heh |
| [17:40:00] | Z-Morek: | been there |
| [17:40:00] | Z-Morek: | done that |
| [17:40:00] | sphing: | wakko how in the world did you set it up the first time.. without knowing how to use pipe |
| [17:40:00] | wakko: | I don;t see lirc in the lsmod list |
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| [17:40:00] | wakko: | I've never grepped in my life. |
| [17:40:00] | wakko: | (sounds kinky!) ;) |
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| [17:40:00] | Dibblah: | okay. modprobe lirc_serial |
| [17:40:00] | Dibblah: | ? |
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| [17:41:00] | Z-Morek: | I managed to install using the wilsonet guide and NO knowledge of unix |
| [17:41:00] | wakko: | me too |
| [17:41:00] | Z-Morek: | and here I sit broken hearted |
| [17:41:00] | Z-Morek: | tried to upgrade and then restarted |
| [17:41:00] | dev-: | heh |
| [17:41:00] | dev-: | :: joins the blank stare :: |
| [17:41:00] | sphing: | Z-Morek: whats the problem |
| [17:41:00] | wakko: | Jarod's guide is ALMOST enough to get things runnign without being a CS major. |
| [17:41:00] | sphing: | ok this sucks |
| [17:41:00] | Z-Morek: | long story short |
| [17:41:00] | Z-Morek: | lirc is broken AGAIN |
| [17:41:00] | dev-: | lol you dont have to be a cs major to learn linux or be able to use it — you have to like to read, know how to read, and understand things you've read |
| [17:41:00] | Z-Morek: | and I don't knwo how I broke it |
| [17:42:00] | sphing: | i'm compiling on my server... so now the diskless frontends are CRAWLING |
| [17:42:00] | Dibblah: | Upgraded your kernel? |
| [17:42:00] | Z-Morek: | nope |
| [17:42:00] | Z-Morek: | I've upgraded kernel in the past |
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| [17:42:00] | Z-Morek: | had to get new kernel modules |
| [17:42:00] | Z-Morek: | been down that road |
| [17:42:00] | wakko: | Dev: I appreciate that – I really do. I have a BSD guru pal who says the same thing. |
| [17:42:00] | Dibblah: | Uhuh. But you need to recompile the lirc modules. |
| [17:42:00] | Z-Morek: | I use packages |
| [17:42:00] | wakko: | it looks like the lirc_serial module is not loaded. |
| [17:42:00] | Z-Morek: | I TRIED to compile from source on my own failed miserably |
| [17:43:00] | dev-: | i just dont see how you will be able to get myth working if you dont even know the operating system its supposed to run on ;/ |
| [17:43:00] | Z-Morek: | what better way to learn linux :-P |
| [17:43:00] | seme|Home: | is it possible to rip an entire dvd as is... instead of each title? |
| [17:43:00] | seme|Home: | with the menu's etc |
| [17:43:00] | seme|Home: | like an iso rip |
| [17:43:00] | dev-: | learning it, sure, but asking every question in here and having answeres told for you, is not learning |
| [17:43:00] | wakko: | Well, it seems to me that Linux is an attempt at putting a GUI face on a powerful unix OS. |
| [17:43:00] | dev-: | its 'following directions' |
| [17:43:00] | wakko: | I may be off there, but that's the marketing |
| [17:43:00] | Z-Morek: | but after following enough directions, you get a sense of what's going on |
| [17:44:00] | Z-Morek: | for instance |
| [17:44:00] | dev-: | wakko: thats a good definition of osx, actually |
| [17:44:00] | wakko: | Well, I do learn from asking questions. |
| [17:44:00] | Beirdo: | why do people keep saying Linux is the GUI crap that runs on top of Linux? |
| [17:44:00] | Z-Morek: | from absoutely NO knowledge of unix |
| [17:44:00] | wakko: | heh – I agree with the OS X reference. |
| [17:44:00] | Beirdo: | Linux is the kernel and basic OS |
| [17:44:00] | Z-Morek: | I followed directions |
| [17:44:00] | dev-: | Beirdo: some fucking howto must say that. |
| [17:44:00] | wakko: | I wish I could run Myth on OS X – I'd buy a G5 for it. |
| [17:44:00] | Beirdo: | what you run on it is your busines |
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| [17:44:00] | wakko: | front end – that is |
| [17:44:00] | Chutt: | myth runs on osx. |
| [17:44:00] | Beirdo: | you CAN run the frontend on OSX |
| [17:44:00] | wakko: | er, back end, that is |
| [17:44:00] | Z-Morek: | and know I vaguely know my way around my linux rig |
| [17:44:00] | wakko: | sorry |
| [17:45:00] | Beirdo: | backend, no. not until someone ports v4l to OSX :) |
| [17:45:00] | Chutt: | backend runs with firewire. |
| [17:45:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [17:45:00] | wakko: | I'm not saying that Linux is GUI only – I realize that it is also the kernel and all associated tech under the GUI |
| [17:45:00] | Beirdo: | ahh, firewire, true |
| [17:45:00] | dev-: | wakko: linux is "all associated tech" under the gui |
| [17:45:00] | dev-: | "linux" is a kernel. |
| [17:45:00] | Dibblah: | Linux... Gui... Only. Uhuh. |
| [17:46:00] | Beirdo: | I run many Linux machines with no GUI |
| [17:46:00] | wakko: | but if we wanted a solid non-gui CLI, wouldn't we all use BSD? |
| [17:46:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [17:46:00] | dev-: | bsd is better than linux, yes |
| [17:46:00] | dev-: | :))) |
| [17:46:00] | wakko: | I heard that's VERY stable (not that I'd know) |
| [17:46:00] | Beirdo: | I'd go for Solaris before BSD |
| [17:46:00] | dev-: | x86 server architecture, bsd |
| [17:46:00] | wakko: | Solaris requires specific hardware, no? |
| [17:46:00] | dev-: | though x86 server is an oxymoron |
| [17:47:00] | Beirdo: | not really |
| [17:47:00] | Dibblah: | Nope. |
| [17:47:00] | rav3r: | coochan, u around? |
| [17:47:00] | dev-: | thre is x86 solaris, but its poop |
| [17:47:00] | dev-: | you would never ever use it in production |
| [17:47:00] | seme|Home: | anyone here ripping iso's of their dvd's or does everyone just rip each title? |
| [17:47:00] | wakko: | I see. |
| [17:47:00] | Beirdo: | once again, not really, dev- |
| [17:47:00] | coochan: | hup? |
| [17:47:00] | Chutt: | seme|Home, the 'iso' option in mythdvd does just that. |
| [17:47:00] | coochan: | rav3r: heyhey |
| [17:47:00] | coochan: | just got up |
| [17:47:00] | seme|Home: | aah |
| [17:47:00] | dev-: | show me one place that uses x86 solaris in production — bet you cant |
| [17:47:00] | wakko: | Sun Micro – Iwas there last week. |
| [17:47:00] | wakko: | I do web work for them |
| [17:47:00] | Beirdo: | we used to |
| [17:48:00] | dev-: | x86 hardware just isnt as good as sparc, what happens when it hardlocks |
| [17:48:00] | Beirdo: | anyways, it's all moot |
| [17:48:00] | dev-: | you cant serial console into openboot and diagnose reboot |
| [17:48:00] | Beirdo: | mythtv is for Linux :) |
| [17:48:00] | wakko: | like the idea of running unix on my x86 hardware. It's inexpensive, and easily obtainable. |
| [17:48:00] | wakko: | yeah – moot |
| [17:48:00] | seme|Home: | chutt: where in the MythTV > Utilities & Settings > Settings > DVD Settings tab? |
| [17:48:00] | dev-: | you wouldnt use solaris on x86 in production (unless you're sun trying to prove something) just like you wouldnt use redhat on sparc in production |
| [17:48:00] | dev-: | i do this for a living, heh |
| [17:49:00] | coochan: | dev-: or windows on an alpha ? |
| [17:49:00] | Chutt: | err, why would it be in there? |
| [17:49:00] | coochan: | dev-: yah, slowaris x86 sucks |
| [17:49:00] | wakko: | Dev: I agree – but they have it running. Probably to prove something, as you say. |
| [17:49:00] | Beirdo: | dev-, so do I. that's beside the point. |
| [17:49:00] | dev-: | dont have any experience with alpha, sorry |
| [17:49:00] | dev-: | bsd is the best x86 server (again, oxymoron) os imho :) |
| [17:49:00] | seme|Home: | chutt: not sure... I don't have a separate section for mythdvd just the dvd settings portion of the settings tab |
| [17:49:00] | dev-: | linux emu runs so fast these days you can hardly tell a difference. |
| [17:49:00] | coochan: | well, which *bsd ? |
| [17:49:00] | wakko: | My BSD pal is into security for hospitals, and he swears by BSD. |
| [17:49:00] | dev-: | freebsd for applications, openbsd for bastions/gateways |
| [17:49:00] | Beirdo: | whatever. run linux and stop emulating it |
| [17:50:00] | wakko: | I don;t know which flavor |
| [17:50:00] | seme|Home: | is mythdvd different than the dvd portion included in mythtv? |
| [17:50:00] | dev-: | netbsd is looking awesome these days tho |
| [17:50:00] | coochan: | seme|Home: same thing |
| [17:50:00] | coochan: | dev-: what do you need? I gotta work... |
| [17:50:00] | coochan: | sorry |
| [17:50:00] | dev-: | i need nuttin. im just talkin |
| [17:50:00] | dev-: | hehe |
| [17:50:00] | coochan: | dev-: misdirected again, my bad |
| [17:50:00] | dev-: | np |
| [17:50:00] | coochan: | rav3r: whatcha need? |
| [17:50:00] | wakko: | Anyway, I'm gonna keep trying to get this working. thanks for all of your help – really. |
| [17:51:00] | wakko: | I have 1 week to get it running before I start a new job. |
| [17:51:00] | laga: | seme|Home: what do you mean, dvd portion included in mythtv? you mean when it says 'dvd support' in the output of ./configure, right? |
| [17:52:00] | seme|Home: | yeah I included dvd support |
| [17:52:00] | laga: | seme|Home: well, the stuff in configure just enables dvd playback support for mythtv's internal player which can be used with mythdvd then. |
| [17:53:00] | coochan: | hmm |
| [17:54:00] | coochan: | backend log: Video timing method: USleep with busy wait |
| [17:54:00] | coochan: | I wonder if that's some kinda suboptimal thing |
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| [17:54:00] | dev-: | Chutt: btw i never downgraded back to .18 — decided to play animal crossing for a few days instead — but get this, one of my frontends was prebuffer pause scrolling when fastforwarding for more than 20–30seconds or so, would lock, have to either adjust ffrd/rew speed or play from the lockup point... power goes out on saturday, i have to shut everything down because the ups' were dieing, power was out for a couple hours, turn everything back up, that |
| [17:54:00] | Z-Morek: | mmmmmm now my audio is broken |
| [17:54:00] | dev-: | its like, a reboot fixed it. heh |
| [17:54:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [17:54:00] | Z-Morek: | TO THE GOOGLE! |
| [17:55:00] | epictetus: | do many people here use their myth machines for other stuff too besides myth? |
| [17:55:00] | wakko: | I guess you could use your mchine as a DNS server |
| [17:55:00] | dev-: | the backends you can, they use very little cpu if you're useing hardware encoders |
| [17:55:00] | Dibblah: | Yup. I use mine as multiple space heaters. |
| [17:55:00] | wakko: | hhahahahaaaaaa |
| [17:55:00] | epictetus: | i use mine as a day to day machine, word processing, etc |
| [17:56:00] | dev-: | commflagging likes cpu cycles, but its niced and not really a big deal |
| [17:56:00] | epictetus: | keep a monitor hooked up as well as the tv |
| [17:56:00] | coochan: | 2006-02–20 12:55:32.236 Unable to initialize plugin 'general' |
| [17:56:00] | coochan: | ?? |
| [17:56:00] | wakko: | I have not processed words in years. |
| [17:56:00] | Chutt: | dev-, if you still have transition issues in live-tv, try current svn |
| [17:56:00] | rav3r: | coochan, u r there |
| [17:57:00] | coochan: | rav3r: yup |
| [17:57:00] | rav3r: | do you sleep? |
| [17:57:00] | coochan: | rav3r: no I'm a b ot |
| [17:57:00] | rav3r: | gotcha |
| [17:57:00] | rav3r: | did you say you have the explorer 8000? |
| [17:57:00] | rav3r: | from time warner? |
| [17:57:00] | coochan: | um, lets see |
| [17:57:00] | dev-: | Chutt: nice, stable mythtv branch yes? |
| [17:58:00] | Chutt: | uuh, well, no =) |
| [17:58:00] | dev-: | oh darn |
| [17:58:00] | dev-: | hehe |
| [17:58:00] | coochan: | I have tghe explorer 2000 |
| [17:58:00] | rav3r: | o\ |
| [17:59:00] | rav3r: | i was going to ask what conf u used, but mine is 8000 |
| [17:59:00] | rav3r: | im going to use http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/scientific_atlanta/AT8400 i guess |
| [17:59:00] | rav3r: | is the 2000 the one you get if you don't want a dvr from time warner? |
| [18:00:00] | coochan: | I guess so ... |
| [18:01:00] | coochan: | I've had it since before time warner had such a thing |
| [18:01:00] | coochan: | I don't use a lirc conf, I use MyBlaster.pl, provided by the vendor of my IR blaster |
| [18:01:00] | coochan: | it doesn't use lirc at all (thank fscking god) |
| [18:02:00] | dev-: | sweet chutt, i see your notes, and have a few hours till next recordings start. perfect. gonna try it now hehe |
| [18:02:00] | rav3r: | yea, your device is pretty |
| [18:03:00] | rav3r: | but, i didn't know about it |
| [18:03:00] | coochan: | rav3r: you asked so... |
| [18:03:00] | rav3r: | i had posted a note to the list about getting a mce blaster that i have to work, and was told it won't and to get this one from irblaster.info |
| [18:04:00] | coochan: | wel, it should work, yes |
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| [18:04:00] | rav3r: | coochan, no worries, i was just saying, i like yours and wish i had known about it |
| [18:04:00] | rav3r: | but oh well |
| [18:04:00] | coochan: | heh |
| [18:04:00] | coochan: | well, just go ahead and try with the lirc file you got |
| [18:04:00] | coochan: | I'm guessing most of the scientific atlantas all use the same codes |
| [18:04:00] | Z-Morek: | hooray for quitting! |
| [18:05:00] | Z-Morek: | I gave up on trying to switch from rpms to svn |
| [18:05:00] | Z-Morek: | and everything that went wrong is now fixed |
| [18:05:00] | Z-Morek: | after some make uninstalling and apt-getting |
| [18:05:00] | rav3r: | there is this note for fedora fc1/fc2, it says There is no /etc/modutils/* in Fedora — instead, add these lines to /etc/modules.conf |
| [18:05:00] | ** Z-Morek is such a noob he enjoys his noobdom ** | |
| [18:06:00] | rav3r: | i have fedora 4, and i dont see /etc/modutils/* or /etc/modules.conf |
| [18:06:00] | Z-Morek: | modprobe? |
| [18:06:00] | rav3r: | and it says NOTE: IF YOU ARE USING FEDORA FC3, READ THIS FC3-SPECIFIC WRITEUP |
| [18:06:00] | rav3r: | and the link is dead :( |
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| [18:07:00] | Cardoe: | rav3r: pwnd |
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| [18:07:00] | rav3r: | ah, /etc/modprobe.conf i got |
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| [18:07:00] | Z-Morek: | close enough |
| [18:07:00] | scottder: | When transcoding can the commflag points be used for cuts while transcoding? |
| [18:07:00] | Z-Morek: | rav3r if you're using fc3 |
| [18:08:00] | Z-Morek: | and you have any qualms |
| [18:08:00] | Z-Morek: | check the wilsonet guide |
| [18:08:00] | Z-Morek: | that thing covers EVERY step |
| [18:08:00] | Z-Morek: | even a noob like myself can follow it |
| [18:08:00] | coochan: | no, yet another guide! |
| [18:09:00] | Z-Morek: | wilsonet is extensive |
| [18:09:00] | Z-Morek: | jarod's guide.... |
| [18:09:00] | coochan: | rav3r: you don't have to switch guides ... you're like 60% thru |
| [18:09:00] | nasa: | ok, assuming I can ssh into the remote box.... What needs to happen for frontend to work (remotely) |
| [18:09:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
| [18:09:00] | coochan: | you just need to figure out where in your distro they do kernel modules arguments |
| [18:09:00] | dev-: | it has to be configured correctly |
| [18:10:00] | Jasper: | the internal player is a lot worse then mplayer isn't it? |
| [18:10:00] | coochan: | on my distro its /etc/modutils/ |
| [18:10:00] | coochan: | Jasper: worse in what way? |
| [18:10:00] | Jasper: | load on the cpu ...and the quality of the picture |
| [18:11:00] | Z-Morek: | rav3r: http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php |
| [18:12:00] | coochan: | I don't notice any difference with the quality per se |
| [18:12:00] | rav3r: | Z-Morek jarod got me to where i am now, but he doesn't cover ir blasters |
| [18:12:00] | coochan: | I could believe it is harder on the CPU but that mostly depends on what video output method you've configured for |
| [18:12:00] | Z-Morek: | guess you're SOL |
| [18:12:00] | coochan: | rav3r: just ignore that dude... |
| [18:12:00] | rav3r: | i just have one serial port, im i safe in assuming that it is com1? |
| [18:13:00] | coochan: | rav3r: pretty safe... anyhow, it's easy to try both |
| [18:13:00] | coochan: | sometimes there are internal serial ports on the board |
| [18:13:00] | coochan: | they existing for linux just the same, even if there's no external conenctions for them |
| [18:13:00] | rav3r: | several of these steps say "or for COM1: bla bla bla" |
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| [18:13:00] | coochan: | just assume COM1 |
| [18:13:00] | coochan: | unless you have a totally retarded mobo |
| [18:13:00] | rav3r: | k, just wanted to check |
| [18:14:00] | rav3r: | wouldn't be surprised at this point |
| [18:14:00] | Jasper: | hmm coochan I'm just talking normal dvd |
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| [18:16:00] | rav3r: | i did /sbin/modprobe ledxmit_serial and got http://pastebin.ca/42230 |
| [18:16:00] | coochan: | Jasper: it doesn't matter much for the CPU whether the video is from a DVD or from an MPEG file on disk |
| [18:16:00] | coochan: | at least, not if your IDE parameters or whatever are correct |
| [18:16:00] | rav3r: | put in the info here: http://losdos.dyndns.org:8080/public/mythtv-i . . . Fedora_users |
| [18:17:00] | Jasper: | well |
| [18:17:00] | coochan: | rav3r: lets see |
| [18:17:00] | Jasper: | when I try internal |
| [18:17:00] | Jasper: | it just messes up and stuff |
| [18:17:00] | coochan: | Jasper: in 0.19 ? |
| [18:17:00] | Jasper: | the problem is...I hav eno control over mplayer whatsoever when it's loaded from mythtv |
| [18:17:00] | Jasper: | yea coochan |
| [18:17:00] | coochan: | I just started using 0.19 |
| [18:18:00] | coochan: | I have to set the DVD player command to, what 'INTERNAL' or 'internal' ? |
| [18:18:00] | Jasper: | I'll try internal again.. |
| [18:18:00] | Jasper: | it laggs so hard |
| [18:18:00] | Jasper: | on internal |
| [18:18:00] | Jasper: | internal |
| [18:18:00] | Jasper: | .. |
| [18:18:00] | coochan: | Jasper: do you uyse MythVideo also? |
| [18:19:00] | coochan: | when you say 'no control over mplayer' — are you trying to control with remote? |
| [18:19:00] | Jasper: | no |
| [18:19:00] | coochan: | rav3r: it really doesn't like those kernel args there |
| [18:19:00] | Jasper: | control with keyboard neither |
| [18:19:00] | coochan: | Jasper: does it work when you use MythVideo configured for mplayer ? |
| [18:19:00] | coochan: | Jasper: I'm just trying out the new mythdvd stuff for the first time |
| [18:20:00] | Jasper: | no |
| [18:20:00] | Jasper: | also not |
| [18:20:00] | Jasper: | but the internal player seams to be messing up for some reason |
| [18:20:00] | Jasper: | compared to mplayer |
| [18:21:00] | dev-: | should use xine for playing dvds, menu support. though ive had problems with some dvds |
| [18:21:00] | dev-: | but its worth it, menu support is nice. |
| [18:21:00] | Jasper: | hmm dev- but what's wrong with the internal player |
| [18:21:00] | Jasper: | I mean it can play my recordings just fine...but dvd.. |
| [18:21:00] | Dibblah: | Why are all these people reporting problems on Gentoo? |
| [18:21:00] | dev-: | i dont believe it has menu support, unless thats changed in .19 |
| [18:22:00] | Jasper: | no it hasn't |
| [18:22:00] | Jasper: | but I don't need that |
| [18:22:00] | ** Dibblah thinks it's time to look at what the ebuild is doing wrong... ** | |
| [18:22:00] | dev-: | Dibblah: if idiots were planes, gentoo would be the airport. |
| [18:22:00] | Jasper: | thanks man |
| [18:22:00] | rav3r: | should i do something different to /etc/modprobe.conf? |
| [18:22:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [18:22:00] | coochan: | Jasper: seems pretty broken here too |
| [18:22:00] | Jasper: | actually I'm the pilot then? |
| [18:22:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [18:22:00] | dev-: | LOL |
| [18:22:00] | coochan: | rav3r: yah, can you paste the lirc stuff in modeprobe.conf into there |
| [18:23:00] | coochan: | Jasper: for me it works ok, but I can't seek |
| [18:23:00] | dev-: | not meant as a personal attack, its just a generalization ive seen :/ |
| [18:23:00] | Jasper: | I ran debian before.. |
| [18:23:00] | Jasper: | but that messed up bigtime with myth |
| [18:23:00] | Jasper: | imo |
| [18:23:00] | Jasper: | at least stable release |
| [18:23:00] | coochan: | debian messed up with myth? |
| [18:23:00] | coochan: | what does that even mean? |
| [18:23:00] | coochan: | I'm running debian/sarge and myth 0.19 here |
| [18:23:00] | dev-: | here's a secret. gentoo, debian, redhat, slackware, ubuntu, they're all the 'same shit' with different topping. |
| [18:23:00] | coochan: | I even have packages for it |
| [18:23:00] | Jasper: | how did you get those? |
| [18:23:00] | rav3r: | lirc stuff? |
| [18:24:00] | coochan: | I built them |
| [18:24:00] | Jasper: | from mirillat? |
| [18:24:00] | coochan: | you want? |
| [18:24:00] | Jasper: | ah |
| [18:24:00] | Jasper: | no |
| [18:24:00] | Jasper: | am perfectly fine on gentoo |
| [18:24:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [18:24:00] | coochan: | yah, I'm using the marriat sources but I ported |
| [18:24:00] | Jasper: | yeah |
| [18:24:00] | Jasper: | he only builds unstable I believe |
| [18:24:00] | coochan: | because I'm hard core |
| [18:24:00] | coochan: | no |
| [18:24:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
| [18:24:00] | coochan: | he just hasn't gotten around to it.. it's pretty new |
| [18:24:00] | Jasper: | my internal player doesn't even play a video ? |
| [18:25:00] | Jasper: | what do you mean coochan ? |
| [18:25:00] | rav3r: | coochan, what lirc stuff? |
| [18:25:00] | coochan: | for me the internal dvd mplayer works but it doesn't seek |
| [18:25:00] | Jasper: | he never had any for 0.18 either |
| [18:25:00] | coochan: | rav3r: the lines you added to modprobe.conf, I need to see them |
| [18:25:00] | coochan: | Jasper: wrong |
| [18:25:00] | coochan: | he recently added them |
| [18:25:00] | Jasper: | like recently in 1 week? |
| [18:25:00] | coochan: | something like that |
| [18:25:00] | Jasper: | ah K |
| [18:25:00] | Jasper: | I tried it 3 weeks ago |
| [18:25:00] | Jasper: | there was nothing back then |
| [18:26:00] | Jasper: | tried setting it up |
| [18:26:00] | Jasper: | but I got so many missing perl stuff |
| [18:26:00] | coochan: | ? |
| [18:26:00] | Jasper: | don't ask why...since I don't know :P |
| [18:26:00] | coochan: | what in myth uses perl except for some contrib scripts, that's wierd |
| [18:26:00] | rav3r: | this is what i added http://pastebin.ca/42231 |
| [18:26:00] | coochan: | oh, probably debconf was broken for you |
| [18:26:00] | Jasper: | when was that? |
| [18:27:00] | Dibblah: | Jasper: Are you using pvr350 / DVB? |
| [18:27:00] | Jasper: | pvr500 |
| [18:27:00] | coochan: | rav3r: lets see |
| [18:27:00] | Dibblah: | And you have no problems with live TV? |
| [18:27:00] | Jasper: | no? |
| [18:27:00] | coochan: | rav3r: you can add on to the paste you did before isntead of making a new one... |
| [18:27:00] | Jasper: | why? |
| [18:27:00] | Jasper: | you're having problems? |
| [18:27:00] | Dibblah: | No – But lots of other gentoo people appear to be. |
| [18:28:00] | Dibblah: | Are you using the 0.19 ebuild? |
| [18:28:00] | rav3r: | i'll do that in the future |
| [18:28:00] | Jasper: | I don't :P |
| [18:28:00] | Jasper: | yes |
| [18:28:00] | dev-: | Dibblah: problems with livetv? |
| [18:28:00] | coochan: | rav3r: ok, comment out all those lines |
| [18:28:00] | Dibblah: | Oh. Bugger. It's not that, then. |
| [18:28:00] | coochan: | rav3r: you can do them all by hand |
| [18:28:00] | Jasper: | what kinda problems Dibblah ? |
| [18:28:00] | Dibblah: | Not for me – Just for lots of others. |
| [18:28:00] | coochan: | rav3r: first do the setserial line: '/bin/setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart none' |
| [18:28:00] | Jasper: | did they forget to give userrights to mythtv user for mysql, video and audio? |
| [18:28:00] | Dibblah: | I'm not sure if Isaac's just fixed it, though. |
| [18:28:00] | rav3r: | this is at #, not in the modprobe? |
| [18:29:00] | Jasper: | I had a problem with watching livetv |
| [18:29:00] | coochan: | rav3r: huh? |
| [18:29:00] | Jasper: | but that was because of user rights |
| [18:29:00] | dev-: | Dibblah: ah the livetv program switching |
| [18:29:00] | coochan: | rav3r: comment out all those modprobe lines, and don't add any new ones |
| [18:29:00] | rav3r: | you mean /bin/setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart none at command line? |
| [18:29:00] | Jasper: | why isn't this freaking internal player working :( |
| [18:29:00] | coochan: | right |
| [18:29:00] | rav3r: | gotcha |
| [18:29:00] | Chutt: | Dibblah, i'm just fixing theoretical things |
| [18:29:00] | Chutt: | debugging by inspection |
| [18:29:00] | coochan: | Jasper: probably because it's new in 0.19 ? |
| [18:29:00] | Chutt: | except for tom lichti's stuff, since he actually posted decent logs |
| [18:30:00] | Jasper: | I heard it was also in 0.18 |
| [18:30:00] | Jasper: | someone said |
| [18:30:00] | rav3r: | ok, i /bin/setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart none |
| [18:30:00] | Jasper: | rav3r what distro? |
| [18:30:00] | rav3r: | fedroa c4 |
| [18:30:00] | coochan: | Jasper: people say a lot of lies or stupid things |
| [18:30:00] | coochan: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MythDVD says new in 0.19 |
| [18:31:00] | coochan: | rav3r: so that went ok? |
| [18:31:00] | rav3r: | that command went ok |
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| [18:31:00] | coochan: | rav3r: ok, as root: |
| [18:31:00] | coochan: | modprobe ledxmit_dev |
| [18:31:00] | rav3r: | i did that in root |
| [18:31:00] | coochan: | modprobe ledxmit_serial |
| [18:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | The internal player existed, not sure it could be used for DVD's back then though |
| [18:31:00] | coochan: | try it with no args |
| [18:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've used it with MythVideo for a long time |
| [18:32:00] | coochan: | GreyFoxx: of course |
| [18:32:00] | Chutt: | it didn't work for dvds |
| [18:32:00] | Chutt: | 19 doesn't, really |
| [18:32:00] | coochan: | or for playing back recordings (duh?) |
| [18:32:00] | Jasper: | GreyFoxx any ideas why it won't load any of my xvids? |
| [18:32:00] | rav3r: | ? /sbin/modprobe ledxmit_dev ? |
| [18:32:00] | coochan: | rav3r: huh? |
| [18:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | Jasper: My only suggest would be to look at the output of the frontend |
| [18:32:00] | Jasper: | lol |
| [18:32:00] | Jasper: | internal command not found |
| [18:32:00] | Jasper: | nice. |
| [18:32:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [18:32:00] | rav3r: | modprobe ledxmit_dev said command not found... |
| [18:32:00] | Chutt: | it's Internal |
| [18:32:00] | Chutt: | not internal. |
| [18:32:00] | coochan: | ah, that explains it |
| [18:32:00] | Jasper: | ah |
| [18:32:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [18:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | Try setting it to "Internal" with a Capital I |
| [18:33:00] | Chutt: | like the help text says. |
| [18:33:00] | Jasper: | good |
| [18:33:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [18:33:00] | coochan: | GreyFoxx: on mine, I set to 'internal' (no capital) and it used the internal player |
| [18:33:00] | Yellow-Snow: | hey guys.. i have a question.. i hooked up my box to this 60inch sorta old tv.. and well i see waves across the screen sorta.. how come? the freq or what? how do fix it? |
| [18:33:00] | Jasper: | yeah |
| [18:33:00] | coochan: | (as documented) |
| [18:33:00] | Jasper: | it's kinda funny |
| [18:33:00] | Jasper: | since mythdvd uses internal |
| [18:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | last I looked at the code I didn't see it to do a case insensitive match, but *shrug* |
| [18:33:00] | rav3r: | modprobe ledxmit_dev said command not found, i was asking if it should be /sbin/modprobe ledxmit_dev |
| [18:33:00] | coochan: | Yellow-Snow: it could be a lot of reasons |
| [18:33:00] | Jasper: | without capital i |
| [18:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've always used Internal and it worked :) |
| [18:33:00] | coochan: | rav3r: yah that's fine |
| [18:34:00] | Yellow-Snow: | what do u think it is? |
| [18:34:00] | coochan: | GreyFoxx: whack |
| [18:34:00] | wakko: | I just posted a request for in-person help to get my MythTV working for $100 on the email list. |
| [18:34:00] | wakko: | heh |
| [18:34:00] | wakko: | we'll see. . . |
| [18:34:00] | dev-: | lol |
| [18:34:00] | Jasper: | GreyFoxx mythdvd uses internal....so I though..prolly same for mythvideo :P |
| [18:34:00] | coochan: | wakko: where you located? |
| [18:34:00] | Dibblah: | Chutt: Have you seen any reports of live problems from people not on gentoo? |
| [18:34:00] | wakko: | San Jose, CA |
| [18:34:00] | coochan: | Jasper: 'internal' works for me |
| [18:34:00] | dev-: | i would so do it if i lived near there |
| [18:34:00] | Chutt: | Dibblah, i haven't been paying attention. |
| [18:34:00] | coochan: | so wierd |
| [18:34:00] | Dibblah: | Okay. |
| [18:34:00] | coochan: | anyhow |
| [18:34:00] | dev-: | i live on the east coast tho heh. |
| [18:34:00] | Chutt: | most of them don't even mention what type of capture card they're using, or if they're a split front/backend |
| [18:35:00] | coochan: | yah for the right coast! |
| [18:35:00] | wakko: | I'd be willing to pay a bit less for fixing via ssh, but I'll see where the email goes first |
| [18:35:00] | Jasper: | maybe internal in mythdvd is causing the major lagg on the internal player... |
| [18:35:00] | Jasper: | and I should change it to Internal |
| [18:35:00] | dev-: | chutt i will try svn and if i still have livetv switching show problems, tell me what information you want and you'll have it. |
| [18:35:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [18:35:00] | dev-: | ;p |
| [18:35:00] | coochan: | I get a lot of wierd errors |
| [18:35:00] | Chutt: | frontend -v playback |
| [18:35:00] | coochan: | [mpeg2video @ 0x40d9c9e0]Warning MVs not availabl |
| [18:35:00] | Chutt: | any information about your system |
| [18:35:00] | dev-: | dude i told you id give you all my logs nd you said those logs were pointless. |
| [18:36:00] | Chutt: | i've added a little more information in current svn |
| [18:36:00] | wakko: | Dev: U talking to me? |
| [18:36:00] | Chutt: | it may help, may not |
| [18:36:00] | Jasper: | chutt any idea why mythdvd laggs so hard with Internal player? |
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| [18:36:00] | dev-: | Chutt: ill try it and if i still have problems, i will gather playback logs and we'l have some fun |
| [18:36:00] | Chutt: | Jasper, no. |
| [18:36:00] | dev-: | :D |
| [18:36:00] | rav3r: | when i /sbin/modprobe ledxmit_serial it returned http://pastebin.ca/42235 |
| [18:37:00] | Jasper: | hm |
| [18:37:00] | Jasper: | it appears to stop lagging after some time |
| [18:37:00] | coochan: | rav3r: hmm... which symbol is it taling about? |
| [18:38:00] | coochan: | interesting |
| [18:38:00] | coochan: | rav3r: try again withg the -v switch |
| [18:38:00] | coochan: | '/sbin/modprobe -v ledxmit_serial' |
| [18:40:00] | rav3r: | now i got http://pastebin.ca/42240 |
| [18:41:00] | coochan: | rav3r: do 'dmsg' and give me the last 5 lines |
| [18:41:00] | coochan: | sorry, dmesg |
| [18:42:00] | coochan: | copy_to_user might be the problem, blah |
| [18:42:00] | rav3r: | http://pastebin.ca/42240 |
| [18:43:00] | coochan: | not there |
| [18:43:00] | coochan: | verify_area |
| [18:43:00] | coochan: | http://pastebin.ca/42242 |
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| [18:44:00] | coochan: | researching... |
| [18:45:00] | coochan: | seems like we're hitting a problem between lirc and 2.6.14 and 2.6.15 kernels... |
| [18:45:00] | coochan: | I hate to do this but we might wanna try again with the 0.8.0 lirc |
| [18:45:00] | rav3r: | http://pastebin.ca/42240 has all of dsmesg now |
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| [18:45:00] | rav3r: | lol |
| [18:45:00] | coochan: | you're 2.6.15 right? |
| [18:46:00] | rav3r: | what was that command? uname -r? |
| [18:46:00] | coochan: | yah |
| [18:46:00] | redline-: | hey guys was wondering if anyone knew how to use dvd rip in myth and get the sound tracks instead of subtitles |
| [18:47:00] | rav3r: | 2.6.15–1.1831_FC4 |
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| [18:48:00] | redline-: | or a web site you could refer me to to get help |
| [18:48:00] | rav3r: | so, do i just go back and start again with 0.8.0 in place of 0.7.2? |
| [18:48:00] | gremlin484: | Hey all, I'm getting a "Database Setup Error" with mythweb. My .htaccess files and conf.php files appear to be set up correctly. i've followed the documentation, and googled for possible solutions, but without luck. Anyone have any ideas? |
| [18:49:00] | redline-: | in http.conf add in all the directives instead of just ALL |
| [18:49:00] | coochan: | rav3r: that's my best guess right now |
| [18:50:00] | Dibblah: | gremlin: Did you follow the bit about AllowOverride? |
| [18:50:00] | coochan: | gremlin484: I just struggled with that last night |
| [18:50:00] | redline-: | Spam inc for gremlin |
| [18:50:00] | dev-: | messed up allowoverride usually gives you error 500 |
| [18:50:00] | redline-: | <Directory /> |
| [18:50:00] | redline-: | Options All |
| [18:50:00] | redline-: | AllowOverride All AuthConfig FileInfo Indexes Limit Options |
| [18:50:00] | redline-: | </Directory> |
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| [18:50:00] | dev-: | not a php error about db setup incorrectly |
| [18:50:00] | coochan: | gremlin484: conf.php doesn't really require any stuff |
| [18:51:00] | redline-: | thats mine and it works |
| [18:51:00] | gremlin484: | I'll try that... |
| [18:51:00] | coochan: | redline-: that's redundant... 'AllowOverride All' is what you need |
| [18:51:00] | dev-: | that db error is .htaccess related |
| [18:51:00] | redline-: | All did not work by itself though |
| [18:51:00] | dev-: | 'impossible' :) |
| [18:51:00] | coochan: | redline-: yes, actually, it does |
| [18:51:00] | Dibblah: | Uhuh. But the htaccess doesn't get processed unless? |
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| [18:51:00] | coochan: | Dibblah: what I did for my sanity was this |
| [18:51:00] | redline-: | coochan: actually i does not on my box |
| [18:52:00] | redline-: | i = it |
| [18:52:00] | coochan: | I put an explicit error on my .htaccess file, like, just a line with 'asdfg' |
| [18:52:00] | dev-: | unless allowverride is set, but dibblah, if you have an .htaccess in your directory and pull up content in it and allowverride isnt set correctly, you get an internal server error, error 500, not an error message from the php content in the directory :) |
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| [18:52:00] | dev-: | unless you dont have apache setup to read htaccess, but by default, it is. |
| [18:52:00] | coochan: | rather than allowing override on / like redline says, that's kinda evil, I just did it for the right dir (the source of the symlink, not the dest, if you have one), for me, <Directory /var/www/mythweb> |
| [18:53:00] | redline-: | yes mine is totally unsecure right now but.... working |
| [18:54:00] | coochan: | redline-: that's very weird, are you sure that if you just change that one line, hup apache (or apache2), it doesn't work? |
| [18:54:00] | coochan: | dev-: it depends... |
| [18:54:00] | redline-: | yeap drove me nuts for like 5 days as i stared at the line knowing it was correct |
| [18:54:00] | coochan: | dev-: I got a 'directory listing denied' error until I got the <Directory ...> right |
| [18:55:00] | redline-: | I add all directives and removed the ALL and it worked |
| [18:55:00] | redline-: | then I added the ALL back and it still worked and I just never removed it |
| [18:55:00] | dev-: | coochan: yeah, 503, you will get that if rewriterules arent working |
| [18:55:00] | coochan: | redline-: crazy |
| [18:56:00] | redline-: | anyone here rip dvd's with myth ? |
| [18:56:00] | coochan: | dev-: right... I could run it if I set the URL to call mythweb.php directly |
| [18:57:00] | dev-: | no, because it uses up a frontend for too long inmho |
| [18:57:00] | dev-: | er imho |
| [18:58:00] | coochan: | ok, working |
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| [18:58:00] | coochan: | rav3r: /msg me if I'm not responding, I might notice |
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| [18:58:00] | rav3r: | ok |
| [18:58:00] | rav3r: | here i just /sbin/modprobe ledxmit_serial |
| [18:59:00] | rav3r: | http://pastebin.ca/42240 |
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| [18:59:00] | ** rav3r slaps coochan around a bit with a large trout ** | |
| [19:00:00] | redline--: | rav3r make sure your /usr/src/linux dir is the same as your current kernel |
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| [19:00:00] | Jasper: | I HATE MOUSES |
| [19:00:00] | Jasper: | or is it mice ? |
| [19:00:00] | Jasper: | :P |
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| [19:01:00] | ph10: | has anyone here had to do any bitrate conversions for thier audio in order to improve audio quality? |
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| [19:02:00] | rav3r: | ok, i can't seem to message coochan because i am not registered :( |
| [19:02:00] | seme|Home: | where do I tell the dvd ripper to rip an iso.... I've switched to the internal player and to xine so I get the dvd menu but I can't get an iso rip |
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| [19:02:00] | rav3r: | and i can't seem to register |
| [19:03:00] | rav3r: | how do a message a staffer? |
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| [19:03:00] | Jasper: | is there any way to see the framerate at which tv-card captures...and it is displayed on the screen? |
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| [19:05:00] | Dibblah: | rav3r: and what does dmesg |tail show |
| [19:05:00] | dev-: | dunno about an official way, but playing the nuv with mplayer shows it |
| [19:05:00] | Dibblah: | Like it's asking you to look at...? |
| [19:05:00] | dev-: | er, mpg in .19 |
| [19:05:00] | dev-: | so used to saying nuv :) |
| [19:06:00] | coochan: | rav3r: hey |
| [19:06:00] | rav3r: | Dibblah http://pastebin.ca/42240 |
| [19:06:00] | coochan: | you can message me without registering I think? |
| [19:06:00] | rav3r: | it said i couldn't :( |
| [19:06:00] | coochan: | rav3r: what irc cmd ? |
| [19:06:00] | coochan: | /msg coochan whatever? |
| [19:06:00] | gremlin484: | So thats interesting.... |
| [19:07:00] | rav3r: | '/msg |
| [19:07:00] | coochan: | anyhow... |
| [19:07:00] | rav3r: | yea |
| [19:07:00] | coochan: | wierd |
| [19:07:00] | Jasper: | dev- isn't there a program to see the parameters of a file? |
| [19:07:00] | gremlin484: | The MythWeb interface works fine from outside my box, just not from local... |
| [19:07:00] | gremlin484: | I think I have some database issues... |
| [19:07:00] | gremlin484: | I'm all good. |
| [19:07:00] | gremlin484: | thanks for your assistance guys |
| [19:08:00] | coochan: | rav3r: again, I need dmesg output here |
| [19:08:00] | coochan: | just like it says (ahem) |
| [19:08:00] | coochan: | rav3r: you already rebuilt with 0.8.0 eh? |
| [19:08:00] | rav3r: | yup |
| [19:09:00] | Dibblah: | rav3r... That's not what I asked for. |
| [19:09:00] | dev-: | Jasper: probably, but i just use mplayer |
| [19:09:00] | dev-: | hehe :) |
| [19:09:00] | rav3r: | Dibblah that is what i got from dsmesg |
| [19:10:00] | Jasper: | hmm k |
| [19:10:00] | rav3r: | oh, i didn't do |tail |
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| [19:10:00] | Jasper: | is it normal that tv-input looks worse then when I watch it directly on tv? |
| [19:10:00] | Jasper: | prolly right? because it gets digitalized? |
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| [19:10:00] | Dibblah: | rav3r, no it's not. Is there a possibility you pasted the wrong link? |
| [19:10:00] | coochan: | erm |
| [19:11:00] | rav3r: | ok, try this http://pastebin.ca/42260 |
| [19:11:00] | coochan: | hmm |
| [19:12:00] | coochan: | we're moving forward here... |
| [19:12:00] | rav3r: | yea! |
| [19:12:00] | Dibblah: | rav3r: Follow http://eduardosextafeira.blogspot.com/ |
| [19:12:00] | coochan: | rav3r: its sayhin gyou need to do : |
| [19:12:00] | Dibblah: | Something changed in 2.6.14+ |
| [19:12:00] | coochan: | setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart none |
| [19:12:00] | coochan: | Dibblah: that dmesg output is deceptive |
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| [19:13:00] | Dibblah: | coochan: Unknown symbol verify_area is actually important. |
| [19:13:00] | coochan: | Dibblah: he's just recompiled the new lirc, which definately works with 2.6.15 (I use it) |
| [19:13:00] | coochan: | Dibblah: I know, that's old |
| [19:13:00] | Dibblah: | Ah. |
| [19:13:00] | coochan: | the dmesg output is showing the old err then the new one below |
| [19:13:00] | Dibblah: | Cool. Got it. |
| [19:13:00] | rav3r: | ok, so i setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart none ? |
| [19:13:00] | coochan: | rav3r: oh, wait a sec... |
| [19:13:00] | coochan: | first do this: |
| [19:14:00] | coochan: | /sbin/modprobe -r ledxmit_serial |
| [19:14:00] | coochan: | /sbin/modprobe -r ledxmit_dev |
| [19:14:00] | rav3r: | do you want me to comment out those lines in the modprobe again first? |
| [19:14:00] | coochan: | I don't want you using ledxmit_dev from one ver of lirc and ledxmit_serial from another |
| [19:14:00] | rav3r: | or does it matter? |
| [19:14:00] | coochan: | rav3r: lets leave it ... |
| [19:14:00] | rav3r: | k |
| [19:14:00] | coochan: | it seems to work :) |
| [19:15:00] | rav3r: | ok, /sbin/modprobe -r ledxmit_serial i got those warnings, ignoring bad line... |
| [19:15:00] | coochan: | oh? |
| [19:15:00] | coochan: | better comment out those lines then |
| [19:16:00] | coochan: | lirc shoulnd't be this hard should it? |
| [19:16:00] | rav3r: | no |
| [19:16:00] | rav3r: | but it's linux |
| [19:16:00] | rav3r: | and im, well, me |
| [19:16:00] | coochan: | making it worse, there were kernel chagnes in recent kernels that made things hard |
| [19:16:00] | Dibblah: | It's not – If the user is using a kernel version that matches. |
| [19:16:00] | coochan: | I struggled with lirc too |
| [19:16:00] | coochan: | and I've been using linux since Dibblah was in short pants |
| [19:16:00] | rav3r: | ok, just /sbin/modprobe -r ledxmit_dev with no prob |
| [19:16:00] | coochan: | good |
| [19:16:00] | coochan: | soldier on |
| [19:17:00] | coochan: | Dibblah: I am glad lirc folks released 0.8.0 |
| [19:17:00] | coochan: | I had had to run a pre-release for a while |
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| [19:17:00] | coochan: | and of coure the linux lirc-modules-source pkg is old |
| [19:17:00] | yaaar: | word |
| [19:17:00] | coochan: | I mean debian |
| [19:17:00] | yaaar: | just got mythtv (along with the ivtv drivers for my pvr-150) installed on this ubuntu machine, and it seems to be working ok. but i can only run it as the user 'mythtv' that was automatically created when i installed. I'd rather run it as my normal user, but that gives me mysql errors. anybody know what that's about? |
| [19:17:00] | yaaar: | also....is there any way to run it in a window, rather than fullscreen? |
| [19:17:00] | coochan: | yaaar: there's a setting for that, yes |
| [19:18:00] | yaaar: | coochan: for the latter? |
| [19:18:00] | coochan: | yes |
| [19:18:00] | yaaar: | ok, i'll look around for it. thanks |
| [19:18:00] | coochan: | for the former, make sure you're in the mythtv group |
| [19:18:00] | rav3r: | '/sbin/lsmod | grep ledxmit returned nothing |
| [19:18:00] | coochan: | works for me |
| [19:18:00] | coochan: | rav3r: good, you'r fully unloaded |
| [19:18:00] | dev-: | yaaar: the mysql errors are probably coming from the absense of a ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [19:19:00] | coochan: | rav3r: what does 'setserial /dev/ttyS0' say? |
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| [19:19:00] | coochan: | dev-: ah, good call |
| [19:19:00] | yaaar: | hrm....neither my normal user NOR my mythtv user are listed as members of the mythtv group |
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| [19:20:00] | yaaar: | dev-: so, i can just copy that file over from ~mythtv/.mythtv/mysql.txt to ~user.....\ |
| [19:20:00] | yaaar: | ? |
| [19:20:00] | coochan: | dev-: altho for my install it looks in /etc |
| [19:20:00] | rav3r: | '/dev/ttyS0, UART: unknown, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 4 |
| [19:20:00] | coochan: | yaaar: try that, yah |
| [19:20:00] | coochan: | rav3r: hmm, that's bad |
| [19:20:00] | coochan: | rav3r: and with 'uart none' ? |
| [19:20:00] | dev-: | coochan: i believe in .19 if you dont have a ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt file it will look in /etc/mythtv |
| [19:21:00] | yaaar: | dev-: coochan: er, my user does have a mysql.txt file, but the mythtv user doesn't. |
| [19:21:00] | dev-: | /etc/mythtv/.mythtv/mysql.txt actually heh |
| [19:21:00] | coochan: | rav3r: oh wait, that's ok |
| [19:21:00] | rav3r: | setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart none ? |
| [19:21:00] | coochan: | rav3r: yes |
| [19:21:00] | yaaar: | also, i'm on .18 |
| [19:21:00] | yaaar: | it was the version ubuntu had packages |
| [19:21:00] | coochan: | yaaar: I used that too.. |
| [19:22:00] | coochan: | yaaar: I think that uses /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [19:22:00] | dev-: | yaar: look for one in etc, compare to the one in the users .mythtv dir |
| [19:22:00] | bagleabuse: | Hello All! |
| [19:22:00] | yaaar: | k |
| [19:22:00] | coochan: | yaaar: howeve,r the ubuntu packages created athe mythtv group,... |
| [19:22:00] | coochan: | yaaar: so... |
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| [19:22:00] | yaaar: | coochan: yeah, already edited /etc/group |
| [19:22:00] | rav3r: | setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart none gives me nothing |
| [19:22:00] | coochan: | anyone wanna test a 0.19 debian/sarge pkg for me? |
| [19:22:00] | coochan: | rav3r: that's good |
| [19:23:00] | coochan: | rav3r: now, modprobe them up again: modprobe ledxmit_dev |
| [19:23:00] | Achew22: | coochan, would that install .19 over my .18? |
| [19:23:00] | coochan: | rav3r: then 'modprobe ledxmit_serial' |
| [19:23:00] | coochan: | Achew22: it would indeed |
| [19:23:00] | coochan: | Achew22: and it would fsck with your database and everything |
| [19:23:00] | coochan: | so be smart, be warned |
| [19:23:00] | Achew22: | so backup it first |
| [19:23:00] | coochan: | right |
| [19:24:00] | Achew22: | I'll test, but I gotta go downstairs and get the link down there |
| [19:24:00] | Achew22: | this is my windoze box |
| [19:24:00] | Achew22: | can I pm you coochan? |
| [19:24:00] | rav3r: | FATAL: Error inserting ledxmit_serial (/lib/modules/2.6.15–1.1831_FC4/misc/ledxmit_serial.ko): Device or resource busy |
| [19:24:00] | rav3r: | i might have lircd running ... |
| [19:24:00] | rav3r: | come to think of it |
| [19:25:00] | rav3r: | stopped it, same error |
| [19:25:00] | rav3r: | guess it was unrelated |
| [19:25:00] | coochan: | rav3r: 'fuser /dev/ttyS0' will tell you if any process is using the port |
| [19:25:00] | coochan: | Achew22: pm me what? |
| [19:26:00] | coochan: | Achew22: but go again |
| [19:26:00] | coochan: | rav3r: lets see |
| [19:26:00] | rav3r: | '/sbin/fuser /dev/ttyS0 = nothing |
| [19:26:00] | coochan: | rav3r: port 03f8 already in use is the err ? |
| [19:26:00] | gremlin484: | anyone know if there are alternate mythweb themes available? |
| [19:26:00] | coochan: | Achew22: I don't need to be private about it.. one sec |
| [19:26:00] | laga: | rav3r: check the man page of 'setserial', i believe you can do something like 'setserial none /dev/ttyS0' |
| [19:27:00] | Achew22: | okay |
| [19:27:00] | Achew22: | nevermind then |
| [19:27:00] | coochan: | Achew22: the URL is sopa.onshored.com/~adam/mythpackages/ |
| [19:27:00] | Achew22: | dpkg -i package name right? |
| [19:27:00] | coochan: | Achew22: right...there are a lot :) |
| [19:27:00] | Achew22: | wow... |
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| [19:27:00] | Achew22: | this could take a while |
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| [19:27:00] | coochan: | Achew22: you only need the ones you use |
| [19:28:00] | Achew22: | can I do dpkg -i my* |
| [19:28:00] | coochan: | Achew22: almost |
| [19:28:00] | Achew22: | dpkg -i * |
| [19:28:00] | coochan: | Achew22: it should be safe to get them all in a dir and do 'dpkg -i *.deb' |
| [19:28:00] | coochan: | ooh, I should put up source too |
| [19:29:00] | coochan: | anyhow, this is tghe marriat package ported to stable |
| [19:29:00] | yaaar: | ok, no luck....still getting those weird db errors |
| [19:29:00] | Achew22: | you should make a sh script to do that |
| [19:29:00] | rav3r: | 'setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart none' ? |
| [19:29:00] | coochan: | you might need a number of marriat libraries and such, so after 'dpkg -i' if it fails from missing pkgs, you might have to 'apt-get -f install' |
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| [19:30:00] | laga: | rav3r: try that ;) |
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| [19:30:00] | yaaar: | i can do 'mysql -u mythtv -p mythconverg' without trouble as this user......but it still gives me a bunch of failed to connect to db errors when i run mythfrontend |
| [19:30:00] | coochan: | rav3r: hmm |
| [19:30:00] | coochan: | rav3r: oh wait, I got an idea |
| [19:30:00] | Achew22: | did you put your password in the mythtv-setup screen for it |
| [19:30:00] | coochan: | rav3r: 'lsmod| grep lirc' |
| [19:31:00] | coochan: | maybe the other lirc_serial module is grabbing the port |
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| [19:31:00] | coochan: | Achew22: eh? |
| [19:31:00] | yaaar: | Achew22: if that question was directed at me, then yes. |
| [19:31:00] | Achew22: | that was for yaaar |
| [19:31:00] | yaaar: | k |
| [19:31:00] | rav3r: | http://pastebin.ca/42272 |
| [19:31:00] | Achew22: | I spent 25 min screaming at computer because I didn't do that |
| [19:32:00] | dev-: | screaming at it usually doesnt help :) |
| [19:32:00] | dev-: | sorta like a child, pet, or spouse |
| [19:32:00] | dev-: | HEHE |
| [19:33:00] | Achew22: | yeah yelling can make things worse ;) |
| [19:33:00] | seme|Home: | how do I change the language in the internal dvd player... now all my videos are playing in french :) |
| [19:33:00] | Achew22: | coochan: is this server hosted on a 14.4 modem? |
| [19:33:00] | seme|Home: | I unfortunately don't speak french ;) |
| [19:33:00] | seme|Home: | he hee |
| [19:33:00] | coochan: | Achew22: heh...sorry... |
| [19:33:00] | rav3r: | coochan: http://pastebin.ca/42272 tell you anything? |
| [19:33:00] | coochan: | bittorrenting |
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| [19:33:00] | coochan: | Achew22: hold on... |
| [19:33:00] | Achew22: | ohh... "thats illegal... what would your mother think" ;) |
| [19:34:00] | coochan: | rav3r: yes |
| [19:34:00] | coochan: | try this: |
| [19:34:00] | coochan: | modprobe -r lirc_serial |
| [19:34:00] | Achew22: | thankyou coochan it trippled the upload speed |
| [19:34:00] | rav3r: | done |
| [19:34:00] | coochan: | its still going to be slow but... |
| [19:35:00] | Achew22: | 5kbps on 20mb is excessive |
| [19:35:00] | coochan: | rav3r: then 'modprobe lirxmit_serial' or wahtever |
| [19:35:00] | coochan: | Achew22: you should get around 20kbps or somethying now |
| [19:35:00] | Achew22: | yeah thats what I'm getting |
| [19:35:00] | rav3r: | '/sbin/modprobe ledxmit_serial' same error :( |
| [19:36:00] | coochan: | wahwahwah |
| [19:36:00] | rav3r: | lol |
| [19:36:00] | yaaar: | here's the output of 'mythfrontend': http://pastebin.ca/42274 |
| [19:36:00] | rav3r: | i think that is enough abuse for me for now |
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| [19:36:00] | rav3r: | i have to get to school |
| [19:37:00] | Achew22: | wow... coochan the wget string is 14 lines long |
| [19:37:00] | rav3r: | thanks again, coochan, hope to catch you on again |
| [19:37:00] | coochan: | what the hell is using that port |
| [19:37:00] | coochan: | rav3r: np, sorry |
| [19:37:00] | Achew22: | coochan, if I add ; dpkg -i *.dpg to the end of my wget line will it install them when its done downloading? |
| [19:38:00] | coochan: | Achew22: are you still grabbing? I don't see the activity |
| [19:38:00] | Achew22: | i'm grabbing, I want it to install when its done automaticly |
| [19:38:00] | coochan: | Achew22: I guess so, but 'dpkg -i *.deb' |
| [19:38:00] | coochan: | I'm not sure you really want it to install autoamtically tho |
| [19:38:00] | Achew22: | okay |
| [19:38:00] | coochan: | NO WARRANTY! |
| [19:39:00] | coochan: | but it works for me |
| [19:39:00] | coochan: | ah, there you go |
| [19:39:00] | Achew22: | i'm going to uninstall it if it doesn't work... then reinstall 0.18 |
| [19:39:00] | coochan: | Achew22: yah, after you restore from DB backup |
| [19:39:00] | Achew22: | should i really restore, or should I just redo my db |
| [19:39:00] | coochan: | I don't know the diff |
| [19:40:00] | Achew22: | I just setup the box last night and I don't have any schedulings on there |
| [19:40:00] | coochan: | I used mysqldump output to shoot it back in (aftger dropping all tables) |
| [19:40:00] | coochan: | oh, then it doesn't matter so much |
| [19:40:00] | coochan: | I got like a year or two's worth of stuff |
| [19:41:00] | coochan: | the mythweb package definately won't work out of the box there... |
| [19:41:00] | Achew22: | what do I have to do to fix it? edit conf.conf |
| [19:41:00] | Achew22: | or whatever the config file's name is |
| [19:42:00] | coochan: | yah, well, there's .htaccess configuration then the apache configuration to allow the htaccess to be read |
| [19:43:00] | Achew22: | meh I can do that in a blink |
| [19:43:00] | coochan: | it should be automated in the postinst of the pkg, but I use the SVN |
| [19:43:00] | yaaar: | just got mythtv (along with the ivtv drivers for my pvr-150) installed on this ubuntu machine, and it seems to be working ok. but i can only run it as the user 'mythtv' that was automatically created when i installed. I'd rather run it as my normal user, but that gives me mysql errors. i've added myself to the mythtv group...anybody know what that's about? |
| [19:43:00] | Achew22: | did you do binding? |
| [19:43:00] | coochan: | Achew22: let me know what you find... I'm weighing whether to publicize this for the peeps or not |
| [19:44:00] | Achew22: | yaaar do you bind your connections? |
| [19:44:00] | coochan: | binding? is that some sort of S&M ? |
| [19:44:00] | Achew22: | close... it only lets one person in ;) |
| [19:44:00] | yaaar: | Achew22: sorry, i'm not sure i know what that it |
| [19:44:00] | yaaar: | s/it/is/g |
| [19:44:00] | Achew22: | cd /etc/mysql |
| [19:44:00] | Achew22: | nano my.cnf |
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| [19:44:00] | yaaar: | ok, what am i looking for? |
| [19:44:00] | Achew22: | its in there under binding it should be a line like "portbinding=127.0.0.1" |
| [19:45:00] | Achew22: | when I turned that into "#portbinding=127.0.0.1" that fixed it on my ubuntu machine |
| [19:45:00] | yaaar: | maybe bind-address = 127.0.0.1 |
| [19:45:00] | Achew22: | that one |
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| [19:45:00] | yaaar: | yeah? |
| [19:45:00] | Achew22: | yep |
| [19:45:00] | Achew22: | make it = "#bind-address = 127.0.0.1" |
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| [19:45:00] | Achew22: | ohh my god |
| [19:46:00] | Achew22: | coochan you jerk — its 38 megs.... |
| [19:46:00] | ack_foo: | I have a mythburn question... proper outlet? |
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| [19:46:00] | Achew22: | yaaar then type "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart" |
| [19:46:00] | Achew22: | after you save and exit |
| [19:47:00] | yaaar: | Achew22: same result |
| [19:47:00] | Achew22: | coochan i'm going to go take a shower. |
| [19:47:00] | Achew22: | hrm |
| [19:47:00] | Achew22: | can I help you after my warm shower... its < freezing outside and i'm really cold |
| [19:48:00] | yaaar: | sure |
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| [19:48:00] | Achew22: | yaaar one thing — I would play with running mythtv-setup on the account you will be using myth with |
| [19:48:00] | ack_foo: | anyone successfully use mythburn for playback on a real dvd player? |
| [19:48:00] | Achew22: | thats another thing I did that I didn't see in any tutorials |
| [19:48:00] | yaaar: | Achew22: yeah, i've done that a few times |
| [19:49:00] | Achew22: | ack_foo I have but I did it with nuvexport |
| [19:49:00] | ack_foo: | I have bounce when I try to playback... |
| [19:49:00] | ack_foo: | ne1? |
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| [19:49:00] | Achew22: | ack_foo go here and read section 8.13 http://hyams.webhop.net/mythtv/myth_ubuntu.html |
| [19:50:00] | Achew22: | its 2 lines... mythburn.sh | grep csi |
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| [19:50:00] | Achew22: | then it makes an iso file and you burn it with growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=csi.iso |
| [19:51:00] | yaaar: | it's kind of weird....when i run mythfrontend i get a long list of db errors ( http://pastebin.ca/42274 ) and then it pushes me into the setup page. The first time I did it I put in the wrong password. Every time since then I've put in the right one....but each time when it opens that screen the field is pre-populated with the incorrect one I put the first time.... |
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| [19:52:00] | yaaar: | even though i've tried removing the ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt file, and also tried copying the one from /etc/mythtv over |
| [19:53:00] | Achew22: | yaaar dude.. check your password on the mysql server |
| [19:53:00] | Achew22: | weird stuff happens in there |
| [19:53:00] | ack_foo: | achew22: let me know when your done showering... want to chat more about DVD burning stuff... |
| [19:53:00] | yaaar: | i can connect fine with 'mysql -u mythtv -p mythconverg' |
| [19:53:00] | Achew22: | in phpmyadmin go to permissions and make sure that you actualy have a password set on both |
| [19:53:00] | yaaar: | Achew22: it works fine as the mythtv user |
| [19:54:00] | coochan: | Achew22: all downloaded ? |
| [19:56:00] | coochan: | yaaar: does that command work as the non-myth user? |
| [19:56:00] | yaaar: | coochan: yep |
| [19:57:00] | coochan: | yaaar: huh |
| [19:57:00] | coochan: | yaaar: what's teh actual error you get? |
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| [19:57:00] | yaaar: | http://pastebin.ca/42274 |
| [19:57:00] | coochan: | yaaar: are you sure you have perms to read /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt ? |
| [19:58:00] | yaaar: | -rw-r--r-- 1 todd todd 964 2006-02–20 13:48 mysql.txt |
| [19:58:00] | coochan: | hmm |
| [19:58:00] | coochan: | veyr mysterious |
| [19:59:00] | coochan: | yaaar: try 'mythfrontend -v database' |
| [19:59:00] | yaaar: | i don't understand why each time i run it it pre-populates the password field with that wrong value. |
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| [19:59:00] | coochan: | eh? which password field? |
| [19:59:00] | coochan: | sounds like a clue |
| [20:00:00] | yaaar: | the first time i ran it i put in the mysql root password instead of the mythtv user's password (because i didn't know the latter....it was autocreated and it was later that i found the correct value in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt) ....but after i deleted ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt and re-ran it, why does it still remember that/ |
| [20:00:00] | yaaar: | ? |
| [20:00:00] | coochan: | I don' tthink you really need to run mythtv-setup ... after all, you're not changing your card or channel settings as this other user, are you? |
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| [20:00:00] | yaaar: | mope |
| [20:00:00] | coochan: | yaaar: which distro? |
| [20:00:00] | yaaar: | ubuntu |
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| [20:01:00] | yaaar: | or, nope, rather |
| [20:01:00] | coochan: | yaaar: hmm, 'dpkg-reconfigure mythtv' ... I think? |
| [20:01:00] | yaaar: | but i'm not running mythtv-setup ....i'm just running mythfrontend and it's pushing me into the db setup page |
| [20:01:00] | coochan: | yaaar: theres a debian configuration where they ask for stuff too... if that's what you meant |
| [20:01:00] | yaaar: | no |
| [20:01:00] | coochan: | but that should only be run when you change tghe pkg state |
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| [20:02:00] | yaaar: | same result w/ -v database |
| [20:02:00] | yaaar: | so, you think i should run dpkg-reconfigure mythtv ? |
| [20:02:00] | coochan: | you said: "each time i run it it pre-populates the password field" ... |
| [20:02:00] | coochan: | the field where? in ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt ? |
| [20:03:00] | yaaar: | coochan: no, the field in the setup screen it pops up |
| [20:03:00] | coochan: | oh, that's in the database, not the file |
| [20:03:00] | coochan: | maybe that's the problem |
| [20:03:00] | yaaar: | ? |
| [20:03:00] | coochan: | do you have just one machine? |
| [20:03:00] | yaaar: | yeah |
| [20:03:00] | yaaar: | how can it be getting that value out of the db if it's telling me it can't connect to the db? |
| [20:04:00] | yaaar: | also, the password in ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt is correct |
| [20:04:00] | coochan: | I'm confused too |
| [20:04:00] | coochan: | I don't know.. unless it connects to the DB then connects again using the info from the db pass 1 |
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| [20:05:00] | Achew22: | yaaar: how many versions of the user mythtv do you have on the mysql server? |
| [20:06:00] | yaaar: | 2 |
| [20:06:00] | coochan: | ah |
| [20:06:00] | Achew22: | muahahah |
| [20:06:00] | Achew22: | thats why |
| [20:06:00] | coochan: | did you try 'mysql -h localhost -p -u mythtv mythconverg' ? |
| [20:06:00] | Achew22: | what are the hosts for each account? |
| [20:07:00] | Achew22: | coochan almost done with the 38 meg one |
| [20:07:00] | yaaar: | one is 'localhost' and one is '%' |
| [20:07:00] | Achew22: | delete the one that says localhost |
| [20:07:00] | yaaar: | coochan: that command drops me at a mysql prompt just like it should |
| [20:07:00] | malaTG: | ahhhh had a power failure and now two jfs-disks can't be munted can anyone help me? |
| [20:08:00] | malaTG: | mounted* |
| [20:08:00] | Achew22: | yaaar did you do that? |
| [20:08:00] | coochan: | malaTG: /sbin/jfs_fsck ? |
| [20:09:00] | yaaar: | Achew22: i have a few options for removing the user.....should i: 1)just delete the users from the priv tables 2)revoke all active privs and delete afterwards 3)delete users and revoke privs afterwards 4)drop the db's that have the same names as the users |
| [20:09:00] | malaTG: | says that both my superblocks are damaged |
| [20:09:00] | yaaar: | ? |
| [20:09:00] | yaaar: | pretty sure it's not the last one, but i'm not sure about the first three |
| [20:10:00] | malaTG: | but it says that the filesystem is clean if I do a fsck on /dev/hdb but not /mnt/jfs |
| [20:10:00] | Achew22: | yaaar doesn't really matter, I do 1 but thats just me |
| [20:10:00] | yaaar: | k |
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| [20:10:00] | Achew22: | coochan |
| [20:10:00] | Achew22: | no dice |
| [20:10:00] | dev-: | i doubt its the 2 user thing, but the problem sure sounds interesting |
| [20:10:00] | yaaar: | same result |
| [20:11:00] | dev-: | reason being both mysql clients are connecting through tmp socket |
| [20:11:00] | coochan: | malaTG: what is /mnt/jfs ? |
| [20:11:00] | coochan: | Achew22: oh? |
| [20:11:00] | dev-: | yaar: you tried running mythtv-setup from the mythtv user and double check info in there? |
| [20:11:00] | coochan: | Achew22: you might pastebin the log or something |
| [20:11:00] | malaTG: | my mountpoint |
| [20:11:00] | Achew22: | yeah, i am |
| [20:11:00] | coochan: | malaTG: syntax error |
| [20:11:00] | Achew22: | http://pastebin.ca/42289 |
| [20:11:00] | dev-: | could be something in the mythconverg settings table set wrong |
| [20:11:00] | coochan: | malaTG: don't pass a mount point to jfs_fsck |
| [20:11:00] | coochan: | use the device, RTM |
| [20:12:00] | malaTG: | you mean like fsck_jfs /dev/hdb |
| [20:12:00] | coochan: | malaTG: erm |
| [20:13:00] | coochan: | no, usually, fsck_jfs /dev/hdb1 or whatever the partition is |
| [20:13:00] | Achew22: | ohh I forgot to apt-get -f install |
| [20:13:00] | Achew22: | sorry coochan |
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| [20:13:00] | coochan: | Achew22: yes |
| [20:13:00] | coochan: | Achew22: aalso, it looks like mythflix shoudl be removed |
| [20:13:00] | malaTG: | yea I have done that and it syas that the filesystem is ok |
| [20:13:00] | malaTG: | or clean |
| [20:13:00] | malaTG: | rather |
| [20:13:00] | Achew22: | is that like mythvideo? |
| [20:13:00] | coochan: | Achew22: no clue |
| [20:13:00] | coochan: | netflix intergration I think |
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| [20:13:00] | malaTG: | but I still can't mount it |
| [20:13:00] | Achew22: | ooh thats sexy... but I don't use netflix |
| [20:14:00] | coochan: | yah, why would I? |
| [20:14:00] | coochan: | malaTG: what mount command? |
| [20:14:00] | malaTG: | ahhh now it works |
| [20:14:00] | Achew22: | i'm going to rm mythflix_0.19–0.0.1_* |
| [20:14:00] | malaTG: | thx man I am a bit tired I think thx for the help!!! |
| [20:14:00] | coochan: | hup! |
| [20:14:00] | coochan: | malaTG: just remember not to panic :) |
| [20:14:00] | malaTG: | hehe will do |
| [20:15:00] | coochan: | Achew22: make sure you dpkg -r mythflix also |
| [20:15:00] | coochan: | Achew22: are the dependances coming in ok? |
| [20:15:00] | Achew22: | yeah |
| [20:15:00] | Achew22: | they are coming 10x fiaster then your server |
| [20:16:00] | coochan: | I surely hope so |
| [20:16:00] | coochan: | don't bite the hand feeding you! |
| [20:16:00] | Achew22: | lol |
| [20:16:00] | yaaar: | dev-: sorry, didn't see that (my nick's got 3 a's) ...i'll check it again |
| [20:17:00] | dev-: | lol woops |
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| [20:17:00] | Achew22: | coochan more errors http://pastebin.ca/42291 |
| [20:18:00] | yaaar: | dev-: at this point running mythtv-setup does *exactly* the same thing as running mythfrontend |
| [20:18:00] | coochan: | oh joy |
| [20:18:00] | dev-: | you said mythfrontend works from the "mythtv" uid didnt you? |
| [20:18:00] | coochan: | missing dependency |
| [20:18:00] | Achew22: | yeah but libqt3-mt doesn't fix it |
| [20:18:00] | yaaar: | dev-: that is, it asks me to pick a language, then gives me the db setup page, with the values all prepopulated correctly except for the password field, which is prepopulated with the correct password for the mysql root user (which is to say *not* the correct password for the mythtv mysql user) |
| [20:19:00] | Achew22: | it wants libqt3c102-mt but thats not on the apt server |
| [20:19:00] | yaaar: | dev-: yes, mythfrontend works fine as the mythtv user |
| [20:19:00] | dev-: | so run mythtv-setup from the mythtv uid and make sure the password is set correctly |
| [20:19:00] | coochan: | Achew22: oh wow, what did I build this against? |
| [20:19:00] | Achew22: | I don't know |
| [20:20:00] | Achew22: | but its not good — nonexistant packages are unfortunate |
| [20:20:00] | coochan: | well, they do exist :) |
| [20:20:00] | yaaar: | dev-: ok.....i guess i'll be back in a minute after i log out and in again |
| [20:20:00] | Achew22: | needless to say, I wouldn't release this version to the public ;) |
| [20:20:00] | yaaar: | thanks everybody for all your help |
| [20:20:00] | coochan: | its in unstable |
| [20:20:00] | Achew22: | i love you yaaar |
| [20:20:00] | coochan: | lets see |
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| [20:20:00] | Achew22: | ohh no |
| [20:20:00] | Achew22: | noone likes unstable |
| [20:20:00] | coochan: | why do I even have that installed? |
| [20:20:00] | coochan: | wierd |
| [20:20:00] | Achew22: | can you remove it and recompile |
| [20:21:00] | coochan: | what's the proper libqt stable packges, do you know? |
| [20:21:00] | coochan: | Achew22: I can I think |
| [20:21:00] | Achew22: | yeah |
| [20:21:00] | Achew22: | libqt3-mt |
| [20:21:00] | Achew22: | thats stable |
| [20:21:00] | Achew22: | wait |
| [20:21:00] | Achew22: | one sec |
| [20:22:00] | Achew22: | one of them watns libexif10 |
| [20:22:00] | coochan: | Achew22: you are missing other pkgs: libflac6 libcdaudio1 |
| [20:22:00] | Achew22: | yeah |
| [20:22:00] | Achew22: | they don't exist |
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| [20:23:00] | malaTG: | not the correct forum but does anyone here have a mythsystem built on fedora? |
| [20:23:00] | Achew22: | we have deb files for it... |
| [20:23:00] | Achew22: | that dont work ;) |
| [20:23:00] | ** Achew22 chuckles ** | |
| [20:23:00] | coochan: | um, fedora? |
| [20:23:00] | coochan: | oh |
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| [20:24:00] | malaTG: | yeaaa I was thinking about upgrading from fc3 to fc4 but I don't know if I dare have a lot of self compiled programs etc. |
| [20:24:00] | Achew22: | ack_foo you there |
| [20:24:00] | Achew22: | malaTG don't fix it if it aint broken |
| [20:24:00] | coochan: | Achew22: can yo do this for me? |
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| [20:24:00] | coochan: | dpkg -l libqt\* | grep ^ii |
| [20:25:00] | markl_: | ok i have a weird problem, my display is 1280x720 and i am trying to play back a regular definition TV show |
| [20:25:00] | markl_: | it seems that it is scaling it to full screen, and then chopping off the right & left sides to make it 4x3 |
| [20:25:00] | Achew22: | http://pastebin.ca/42298 |
| [20:25:00] | markl_: | any idea how to have the front end play the video properly |
| [20:25:00] | malaTG: | well my graphic doesn't work properly but it works on all my friends fc4 boxes and nobody seems to know how to fix my grpahic problems |
| [20:25:00] | coochan: | I should build this on my other box.. this one has beenr unning debian for so long there's lots of wierd stuff installed |
| [20:26:00] | coochan: | but I'd like to clean it up while I'm at it |
| [20:26:00] | coochan: | oh dude, ubuntu, no wonder |
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| [20:26:00] | yaaar: | word |
| [20:26:00] | yaaar: | i'm in as my mythtv user now..... |
| [20:26:00] | yaaar: | but when i run mythtv-setup it looks/acts completely different. |
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| [20:27:00] | dev-: | what did you just do to "switch to your mythtv user"? |
| [20:27:00] | yaaar: | instead of just being 2 pages on a blue background, it's like a dozen pages on a greyish design background |
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| [20:27:00] | yaaar: | dev-, i logged out as my normal user and logged in as mythtv |
| [20:27:00] | yaaar: | and none of those dozen pages asked me for the db information |
| [20:27:00] | dev-: | you didnt reboot or anything crazy? hehe |
| [20:28:00] | dev-: | i looked and dont see the password as a value in the data colum in the settings table |
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| [20:28:00] | yaaar: | however, when i run mythfrontend and go into setup, it does have a screen with the db info, and it is all correct (including the password) |
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| [20:28:00] | yaaar: | no i did not reboot, nor do anything else i would consider "crazy" ;-) |
| [20:28:00] | Achew22: | coochan you there? |
| [20:28:00] | coochan: | Achew22: yup |
| [20:28:00] | coochan: | bro |
| [20:28:00] | Achew22: | what should I do? |
| [20:28:00] | coochan: | libqt3c102-mt 3.3.4–3 is the debian stable libqt |
| [20:28:00] | coochan: | you're ubuntu |
| [20:29:00] | coochan: | i fyou don't believe me, see http://packages.qa.debian.org/q/qt-x11-free.html |
| [20:29:00] | coochan: | you have two choices: backk out, or try building from the source pkgs yourself |
| [20:29:00] | coochan: | I can easily give you my sources |
| [20:29:00] | markl_: | so is anyone here familiar with mythtv-frontend scaling issues |
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| [20:29:00] | Achew22: | okay will you do that coochan? |
| [20:29:00] | dev-: | lol. |
| [20:29:00] | coochan: | Achew22: source? |
| [20:29:00] | Achew22: | yeah |
| [20:30:00] | Achew22: | should I just get them from mythtv.org |
| [20:30:00] | coochan: | Achew22: sure, altho come to think of it, you should grab from marriat.... lets see |
| [20:30:00] | coochan: | depends on whether you want a pkg or not |
| [20:30:00] | Achew22: | pkg? |
| [20:30:00] | dev-: | yaaar: ive never heard of mythfrontend actually modifying mysql.txt, so hrm, dunno |
| [20:31:00] | Achew22: | i don't want deb files coochan |
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| [20:31:00] | seme|Home: | how do I tell the internal player to play in english... xine plays in english perfectly but for some reason if I set the player to internal it plays in french |
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| [20:31:00] | yaaar: | why would it automatically populate the field with the wrong value? |
| [20:31:00] | Achew22: | coochan can I get your apt.source list? |
| [20:31:00] | coochan: | Achew22: you can either get from marriat and build a pkg (dpkg-buildpackage) or get from mythtv site |
| [20:31:00] | dev-: | yaaar: thats just it, ive never heard of mythfrontend to actually modify mysql.txt |
| [20:31:00] | coochan: | marriat sources is ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/m/ |
| [20:31:00] | Achew22: | ohh i'll pkg it |
| [20:31:00] | coochan: | Achew22: k |
| [20:31:00] | yaaar: | dev-, but mysql.txt has the correct value in it. |
| [20:32:00] | coochan: | Achew22: you all good? |
| [20:32:00] | Achew22: | coochan maybe... but |
| [20:32:00] | yaaar: | dev-, so, it's getting it from someplace else |
| [20:32:00] | Achew22: | if I added your debian servers to my apt.sources list coudln't I get those files then remove them? |
| [20:32:00] | dev-: | yaaar: if it does, you should have no problems with mythfrontend at that point. |
| [20:32:00] | yaaar: | but i don't have a clue where |
| [20:32:00] | yaaar: | well.... |
| [20:32:00] | coochan: | Achew22: oh, and you should probably dpkg --remove the pkgs you just installed...s orry! |
| [20:32:00] | coochan: | but I did say debian/sarge |
| [20:32:00] | coochan: | no ubuntu whatever |
| [20:32:00] | coochan: | s/no/not |
| [20:32:00] | dev-: | 14:22 <coochan> anyone wanna test a 0.19 debian/sarge pkg for me? |
| [20:33:00] | dev-: | yeah he did heh, kind of like wtf |
| [20:33:00] | dev-: | :P |
| [20:33:00] | yaaar: | i can tell you this for certain; ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt has the correct password in it, which is the same as /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt ...and when i run mythfrontend, it still drops me at db settings |
| [20:33:00] | Puh: | uhh, if mythfrontend really does scale the osd graphics every time livetv is started that could well be the slowdown i'm experiencing |
| [20:34:00] | yaaar: | and it still populates the password field in that settings page with a wrong value |
| [20:34:00] | Achew22: | coochan would that kill my system if I added the debain apt servers on a ubuntu system? |
| [20:34:00] | coochan: | Achew22: no clue, probably |
| [20:34:00] | Spunx: | hey. Can somebody walk me through the whole "no sound" thing as i described here: http://dyndata.homelinux.com/myth.html |
| [20:34:00] | dev-: | yaaar: and if you diff ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt then diff both fo those against ~mythtv/.mythtv/mysql.txt — you see no differences at all? |
| [20:34:00] | gremlin484: | Is it possible to make mythtranscode nicer on my CPU? I's beating the crap out of it.... |
| [20:34:00] | seme|Home: | is this even documented? I've read through the entire mythtv site and there is mention of dvd iso rips and this internal player but I can't find any way to configure either |
| [20:34:00] | Achew22: | coochan I want to try it anyways.... |
| [20:34:00] | dev-: | gremlin484: define beating the crap out of it? |
| [20:34:00] | Achew22: | are you on an unstable version of debian coochan |
| [20:35:00] | coochan: | Achew22: no, debian sarge == stable |
| [20:35:00] | gremlin484: | lol 99% 100% of the time... |
| [20:35:00] | dev-: | so its useing up idle cpu, big deal. |
| [20:35:00] | dev-: | its niced to 17 |
| [20:35:00] | Achew22: | coochan I have no moral issues with putting the debian oens in thre |
| [20:35:00] | coochan: | gremlin484: is it niced and still kills your itneractivity? |
| [20:35:00] | dev-: | beating the crap out of != useing idle cpu cycles |
| [20:36:00] | coochan: | if so, you might be hitting IO problems |
| [20:36:00] | gremlin484: | right but it's causing other things, such as ssh, vnc, apache, etc to run extremely slowly... |
| [20:36:00] | Spunx: | anybody wanna help me? :'-( |
| [20:36:00] | coochan: | Achew22: fine just don't come crying to me :) |
| [20:36:00] | Achew22: | i wont |
| [20:36:00] | Achew22: | i'll reinstall |
| [20:36:00] | Achew22: | its easier |
| [20:36:00] | yaaar: | dev-, the only differences between ~todd/.mythtv/mysql.txt and /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt are cosmetic (i.e. comments and lines being in different places, but saying the same thing) |
| [20:36:00] | coochan: | Spunx: oy, sound |
| [20:36:00] | Spunx: | coochan, hey. |
| [20:36:00] | yaaar: | dev-, and as for ~mythtv/.mythtv/mysql.txt ...it doesn't exist |
| [20:36:00] | gremlin484: | coochan – yes. |
| [20:37:00] | dev-: | yaaar: you dont have /etc/mythtv/.mythtv/mysql.txt do you? |
| [20:37:00] | coochan: | Spunx: why are you configuring myth to use OSS (alsa OSS emulation) ? |
| [20:37:00] | Achew22: | coochan: nano /etc/apt/sources.list will do it |
| [20:37:00] | Spunx: | http://dyndata.homelinux.com/myth.html <-- do you see anything strange? Do you want to know to what port on the soundcard i connected the jack from pctv pro? |
| [20:37:00] | yaaar: | dev-, i've also tried 1)removing ~todd/.mythtv/mysql.txt and 2)copying /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt to ~todd/.mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [20:37:00] | Spunx: | coochan, i don't wanna, but how else! plz help! |
| [20:37:00] | coochan: | gremlin484: are you (E)IDE ? |
| [20:37:00] | yaaar: | dev-, no, the directory /etc/mythtv/.mythtv doesn't exist |
| [20:37:00] | gremlin484: | yeah :( |
| [20:38:00] | coochan: | gremlin484: look into hdparm |
| [20:38:00] | coochan: | gremlin484: if you haven't already |
| [20:38:00] | gremlin484: | ok thanks |
| [20:38:00] | dev-: | yaaar: if you removed ~todd/.mythtv/mysql.txt and copied /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt to it, why did diff show anything different? |
| [20:38:00] | coochan: | there are lots of howtos and stuff around about it, see google |
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| [20:38:00] | yaaar: | dev-, because since then i have run mythfrontend again, and it seems to rewrite that file |
| [20:39:00] | coochan: | Spunx: I'm going to assume its a myth configuration problem not a hardware issue |
| [20:39:00] | coochan: | Spunx: since hardware seems to be working in other programes |
| [20:39:00] | Spunx: | coochan, yup, since it worked before. |
| [20:39:00] | Spunx: | _ |
| [20:39:00] | Spunx: | /\ |
| [20:39:00] | Spunx: | \ \ \____/ \_-_/ |
| [20:39:00] | Spunx: | \ \ (x__x) (^_^) |
| [20:39:00] | Spunx: | \_\/~~~~\_/~~~\_ |
| [20:39:00] | Spunx: | _.-~==============~-._ |
| [20:39:00] | Spunx: | (___Fatass and son_____) |
| [20:39:00] | Spunx: | \_________/ |
| [20:39:00] | Spunx: | oops |
| [20:39:00] | dev-: | yaaar: do you have mythfrontend suid root? if not, chmod 444 ~todd/.mythtv/mysql.txt and try it again |
| [20:40:00] | yaaar: | dev-, i don't think it's suid ...how can i check? |
| [20:40:00] | Achew22: | coochan: you there? |
| [20:40:00] | coochan: | Spunx: hold on trying to remember the settings |
| [20:40:00] | coochan: | Achew22: vaguely |
| [20:40:00] | Spunx: | coochan, woo woo! |
| [20:40:00] | dev-: | yaaar: ls -l 'ls -l `which mythfrontend` |
| [20:40:00] | dev-: | er ls -l `which mythfrontend` |
| [20:40:00] | Achew22: | will you send me your /etc/apt/sources.list file? |
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| [20:41:00] | gremlin484: | How can I disable the recording of LiveTV? |
| [20:41:00] | dev-: | yaaar: you're looking for the s uid bit set. |
| [20:41:00] | yaaar: | dev-, i assume you meant only one of the ls -l? |
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| [20:41:00] | yaaar: | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1013140 Aug 31 17:59 /usr/bin/mythfrontend |
| [20:41:00] | dev-: | yaaar: you could assume or you could read the line after it |
| [20:41:00] | markl_: | this sucks, i am only getting the left 50% of the screen when i play back a tv show |
| [20:41:00] | seme|Home: | does anyone know how to configure hte internal video player? |
| [20:41:00] | markl_: | any idea what to try to fix that? |
| [20:42:00] | yaaar: | dev-, oh, right. sorry missed that |
| [20:42:00] | dev-: | yaaar: ok, then try chmod'ing mysql.txt as i said and try it again. |
| [20:42:00] | coochan: | Spunx: I don't think mythtv-setup has any audio output configuration at all that is relevant |
| [20:42:00] | yaaar: | i already did the chmod, but the mode prior to it was nearly identical ....only difference was that user had write ability...is that 644? |
| [20:42:00] | dev-: | yaaar: technically, mythfrontend wont be able to overwrite it. but again, ive never heard of mythfrontend rewriting that file hehe |
| [20:42:00] | yaaar: | k |
| [20:42:00] | Spunx: | coochan, omg. coochan i make a screen shot. one sec |
| [20:43:00] | yaaar: | alright, i'll be back shortly, after i log in as my normal user again |
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| [20:43:00] | coochan: | Spunx: well, the mythtv-setup issues might be relevant if you're not getting audio off the capture card |
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| [20:43:00] | dev-: | yaa: nearly identical != identical |
| [20:43:00] | coochan: | Spunx: have you isolated which problem is relevant here? |
| [20:43:00] | dev-: | lol. |
| [20:43:00] | Spunx: | coochan, mythtv-setup card setup ====> audio device /dev/dsp <--- |
| [20:44:00] | coochan: | yes, I see that already from tyour page |
| [20:44:00] | dev-: | you know, its not fare he has the 'overwrite mysql.txt if i think its wrong' option, because mythtv doesnt do that for me on any of my frontends :P |
| [20:44:00] | Spunx: | coochan, coochan i just need the right settings in the audio setting i think? want to know my alsamixer settings? |
| [20:44:00] | Spunx: | coochan, you need to know anything specific from my audio card? |
| [20:45:00] | coochan: | Spunx: no, just look at my question |
| [20:45:00] | coochan: | Spunx: and answer it |
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| [20:46:00] | Spunx: | coochan, which problem is relevant. uhm. yes, the audio is not working because my settings are wrong (But what settings i don't know, i didn't find in the mythtv guide details) |
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| [20:47:00] | Spunx: | coochan, see topic capture cards. he is saying something about dsp1 must i configure it? http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_MythTV |
| [20:47:00] | dev-: | thats cool, you know the problem.. before you know the problem |
| [20:47:00] | dev-: | thats a first |
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| [20:47:00] | markl_: | even when i play back the ringbuf file in vlc, it is squished and i only get part of the screen |
| [20:48:00] | dev-: | markl_: sounds like a borked tuner setting |
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| [20:48:00] | dev-: | markl_: dmesg |grep -i tuner might show some fun things |
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| [20:49:00] | Spunx: | tuner 0–0060: mt2032: frequency parameters out of range: 7 61 0 25 |
| [20:49:00] | dev-: | that sounds like a hint |
| [20:49:00] | dev-: | that will lead to the road of working-goodness |
| [20:50:00] | Achew22: | coochan i think this might work.... this is crazy |
| [20:50:00] | dev-: | i need to get in some animal crossing before the ballandchain gets home |
| [20:50:00] | Spunx: | dev-, uhm. but what does it mean? |
| [20:50:00] | coochan: | dev- was talking to markl I think |
| [20:50:00] | dev-: | Spunx: a guess is that one or more of your frequency parameters is out of range |
| [20:50:00] | coochan: | well, I can tell you the frontend settings you want for alsa |
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| [20:50:00] | coochan: | you can check this using say mythmusic or something |
| [20:51:00] | Spunx: | http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:TrGeIT3fI . . . nk&cd=13 |
| [20:51:00] | dev-: | oh haha |
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| [20:51:00] | dev-: | woops i got confused. |
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| [20:51:00] | dev-: | Spunx: if you have any problems with recordings or livetv thats where'd start first... down the road |
| [20:51:00] | dev-: | ;) |
| [20:51:00] | coochan: | setup-> general |
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| [20:52:00] | Spunx: | coochan, ok |
| [20:52:00] | coochan: | hold on I'm trippping on myself here |
| [20:53:00] | markl_: | dev-: hmm it does the same thing if i cat /dev/video0 to a file and play it |
| [20:53:00] | dev-: | 15:48 <dev-> markl_: dmesg |grep -i tuner might show some fun things |
| [20:53:00] | dev-: | its a tuner problem. |
| [20:53:00] | coochan: | Spunx: on the audio screen, Audio output device: ALSA:default |
| [20:53:00] | dev-: | a tuner is a thing that tunes channels |
| [20:53:00] | dev-: | when its misconfigured your shit will look like dick |
| [20:53:00] | dev-: | hehe! |
| [20:54:00] | markl_: | dev-: heh i didn't see anything too weird there |
| [20:54:00] | coochan: | Spunx: Mixer device: default |
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| [20:54:00] | Spunx: | coochan, mythfrontend ok |
| [20:54:00] | yaaar: | word |
| [20:54:00] | yaaar: | so.....fixed it |
| [20:54:00] | markl_: | [4294705.272000] tuner: type set to 50 (TCL 2002N) by ivtv i2c driver #0 |
| [20:54:00] | yaaar: | this is going to produce some groans.... |
| [20:54:00] | dev-: | lol that chmod fixed it? |
| [20:54:00] | yaaar: | nope |
| [20:54:00] | dev-: | i didnt think so. since it doesnt overwrite it :P |
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| [20:54:00] | coochan: | Spunx: tested, is ok? |
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| [20:55:00] | Spunx: | coochan, and mixer controls? |
| [20:55:00] | markl_: | dev-: well if i run a vlc command on it, it seems to look better |
| [20:55:00] | yaaar: | apparently mythfrontend checks either the homedir or the dir it's being run from for a mysql.txt file before it checks ~/.mythtv |
| [20:55:00] | coochan: | Spunx: I have it on PCM |
| [20:55:00] | Spunx: | currently i set it too PCM |
| [20:55:00] | markl_: | but it's a hairy cmd line |
| [20:55:00] | Spunx: | ok tnx |
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| [20:55:00] | coochan: | Spunx: should be fine |
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| [20:55:00] | Spunx: | coochan, and mythtv-setup capture cards audio device? |
| [20:56:00] | dev-: | yaaar: lol so you're saying you had mysql.txt files laying all over the place |
| [20:56:00] | Spunx: | coochan, currently set to /dev/dsp ? :-o |
| [20:56:00] | yaaar: | because the first time, when i had the password wrong, instead of actually rm'ing the file, i moved it elsewhere........to my homedir. which was where i was running the frontend from |
| [20:56:00] | dev-: | yaaar: mother never taught you cleanliness is next to godlieness? :) |
| [20:56:00] | yaaar: | dev-: not all over the place....just one bad one in my homedir |
| [20:56:00] | dev-: | too funny. |
| [20:56:00] | coochan: | ok, this always confused me: "halt command" help: "If you have configured an exit key using the system shutdown option" ... where? |
| [20:56:00] | yaaar: | dev-: mother taught me 'don't rm files you think you may need some day....just move them someplace other than where the program looks for them" |
| [20:56:00] | dev-: | this happens enough time, and people wonder why we ignore questions. half the time its just pilot error |
| [20:57:00] | praet: | exl |
| [20:57:00] | praet: | oops |
| [20:57:00] | dev-: | yaaar: but its mysql.txt, there's a difference between being clean and rm'ing important stuff :) but whatever, glad its working for you. |
| [20:57:00] | yaaar: | dev-: well, i dunno.....considering i've seen absolutely nothing to indicate that the program would check the running dir first, i'm not sure i agree that it's just operator error |
| [20:58:00] | Spunx: | coochan, i hear noise! |
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| [20:58:00] | coochan: | Spunx: yay |
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| [20:58:00] | coochan: | Spunx: yes that is not as well supported in the UI as it should be IMHO |
| [20:58:00] | seme|Home: | can anyone help me with two things... 1. to get the dvd ripping program to rip as an iso and 2. to get the internal player working properly (aspect ratio, english language). |
| [20:58:00] | Spunx: | coochan, but like annoying noise :-( what does it mean? |
| [20:59:00] | yaaar: | btw, is it normal for my mouse cursor to disappear when it's on the mythtv window? |
| [20:59:00] | coochan: | Spunx: ew |
| [20:59:00] | seme|Home: | I've been reading all day and found nothing |
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| [20:59:00] | seme|Home: | any help would be greatly appreciated |
| [20:59:00] | coochan: | alsa problem I guess... |
| [20:59:00] | coochan: | try running mythfrontend -v audio |
| [20:59:00] | coochan: | look for any interesting messages on the console |
| [21:00:00] | yaaar: | so, now that this is working properly, i can tell the really crazy story from today.... |
| [21:00:00] | Spunx: | coochan, i changed codec to uncompressed and sampling rate to 32000 for live tv |
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| [21:00:00] | Spunx: | let me restart frontend and check again |
| [21:00:00] | coochan: | bro |
| [21:00:00] | coochan: | use mythmusic, just test one thing at a time |
| [21:00:00] | coochan: | e.g., audio output |
| [21:00:00] | Jasper: | how can you watch a recording of livetv..which you didn't schedule |
| [21:01:00] | coochan: | I can't simultaneously debug your capture setings and your output settings |
| [21:01:00] | Spunx: | coochan, mythmusic worx |
| [21:01:00] | coochan: | ok |
| [21:01:00] | coochan: | so youre capture settings are fudged |
| [21:01:00] | yaaar: | the first time i plugged the coax into the card, i saw a small blue spark. then, the first time i ran mythfrontend (as the mythtv user), after a few seconds I heard loud static (even though my stereo was *off*), and saw a burst of light from behind the desk......and smelled burning electronics. |
| [21:01:00] | Spunx: | coochan, that what i test above did not work |
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| [21:01:00] | Achew22: | if you had 6 ota channels and you had 3 pci slots and you put pvr 500s in them could you have it record every show ever? |
| [21:01:00] | coochan: | Spunx: so look deeper into what your capture card outputs |
| [21:01:00] | yaaar: | i imediately shut off the machine and went looking for the burned-up thing....but couldn't find it. and all my equipment seems to be working ok |
| [21:02:00] | coochan: | Spunx: mythtv-setup will let you configure it for impossible things |
| [21:02:00] | Spunx: | mythfrontend -v audio <-- try this? |
| [21:02:00] | coochan: | you have to match what it thinnks your getting with what you are actually getting |
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| [21:02:00] | seme|Home: | any links or pointers to documentation would be helpful too |
| [21:02:00] | coochan: | Spunx: and I can't help you because the only capture card I ever used is hauppauge 350 |
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| [21:03:00] | coochan: | Spunx: no, '-v audio' doesn't matter much now because we know mythfrontend audio output works fine |
| [21:03:00] | Jasper: | anyone? knows how I can play livetv recordings which I didn't schedule? |
| [21:03:00] | yaaar: | so, is it normal for the mouse cursor to disappear when i run it over the mythtv window? |
| [21:03:00] | Achew22: | yaaar yes |
| [21:03:00] | Spunx: | coochan, ok tnx. i will try mythtv-setup ----> ALSA:default it's now set to /dev/dsp so |
| [21:03:00] | yaaar: | Achew22: thanks |
| [21:04:00] | Achew22: | its a setting in appearences/general ( I think ) and you can turn it off |
| [21:04:00] | coochan: | Spunx: that might do it |
| [21:04:00] | johnp1: | Anyone know where you set the dvd player to the internal one ? |
| [21:05:00] | Jasper: | in player settings? |
| [21:05:00] | yaaar: | last, small, problem. i've got small parallel lines running diagonally up and down the screen....looks slightly "ribbed" ......figure that's something w/ my hardware, or just a bad signal on the coax, or what? |
| [21:05:00] | Achew22: | god i love simon and garfunkel... |
| [21:05:00] | yaaar: | i'm running it off a splitter with my cable modem, but the modem is syncing, and it typically takes more signal than a tv |
| [21:06:00] | johnp1: | Jasper, I'm being myopic can't spot it. Not to say it's not there .... |
| [21:06:00] | Jasper: | ? |
| [21:06:00] | Jasper: | myopic? |
| [21:07:00] | johnp1: | Short sighted (possibly spelt wrong) |
| [21:07:00] | jams: | anybody know of an easy way to save the datadirect listings to a file? |
| [21:07:00] | Spunx: | coochan, ALSA:default in capture cards is not accepted. does it matter if it's an analog card? |
| [21:07:00] | Jasper: | I don't know what myopic is...but anyways go to utilities/setup |
| [21:07:00] | Jasper: | setup |
| [21:08:00] | Achew22: | Jasper what does libjasper do? |
| [21:08:00] | Jasper: | so utilities/setup – > setup – > media settings – > dvd settings – > play settings |
| [21:09:00] | Jasper: | jpeg image compression |
| [21:09:00] | Achew22: | cool |
| [21:09:00] | coochan: | Spunx: no idea |
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| [21:10:00] | Jasper: | anyone know how I can watch a non-scheduled recording? |
| [21:10:00] | Achew22: | go to live tv... |
| [21:10:00] | Spunx: | coochan, it did work yesterday for a minute or so lol man i suck |
| [21:10:00] | ack_foo: | jasper: you mean from nuv file |
| [21:10:00] | ack_foo: | ? |
| [21:11:00] | coochan: | you need to google for people with your card |
| [21:11:00] | coochan: | settings taht work |
| [21:11:00] | johnp1: | ahh no media settings :/ |
| [21:12:00] | Jasper: | yeah ack_foo |
| [21:12:00] | coochan: | this is wierd, on one of my computers, my alsa doesn't have a mixer called 'Master' |
| [21:12:00] | coochan: | myth doesn't like that at all |
| [21:13:00] | ack_foo: | Jasper: you can use mplayer for that IIRC |
| [21:13:00] | Jasper: | hmm but not mythtv? |
| [21:13:00] | Jasper: | because I can see the recording in mythweb |
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| [21:13:00] | Jasper: | would be easy to just say postrecord |
| [21:13:00] | laga: | coochan: you probably could work around that with some .asoundrc magic. not sure, though |
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| [21:13:00] | Jasper: | or something |
| [21:14:00] | coochan: | laga: that's what I'm thinking |
| [21:14:00] | ack_foo: | jasper: you need to import it first — you have a file from some other myth box? |
| [21:14:00] | Jasper: | nope |
| [21:14:00] | Jasper: | it recorded it |
| [21:14:00] | Jasper: | just when watching tv |
| [21:14:00] | ack_foo: | jasper: i dont think I understand the problem... |
| [21:14:00] | Jasper: | never mind |
| [21:15:00] | markl_: | it appears that mythtv-backend is setting the width to 480 |
| [21:16:00] | markl_: | then when the frontend plays it back, it stretches it to 720x480 and loses 480/720 of the screen |
| [21:16:00] | markl_: | (720–480)/720, whatever |
| [21:17:00] | ack_foo: | achew22: you still here? |
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| [21:18:00] | Spunx: | coochan, i am going nuts why does tvtime does work! :-( |
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| [21:22:00] | Achew22: | coochan: alright i'm going to switch to debain |
| [21:23:00] | Achew22: | coochan: should I do 3.2? |
| [21:23:00] | coochan: | Achew22: I'd say stick with stable — 3.1 |
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| [21:26:00] | coochan: | I like alsa but I hate the documentation |
| [21:26:00] | Achew22: | coochan will my ubuntu still be mostly right? |
| [21:26:00] | coochan: | Achew22: eh? |
| [21:26:00] | Achew22: | oops will the tutorial be mostly right |
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| [21:31:00] | Spunx: | coochan, ok so i can't use the audio from the chip since it is wired incorrectly for pctv pro, i must use audio from soundcard.. probably tvtime is doing that (!) |
| [21:31:00] | Spunx: | i have a wire from out (tvcard) to in (sndcard) |
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| [21:43:00] | coochan: | is it a mythfrontend bug if the system can't cope when I don' thave a mixer called 'Master' ? |
| [21:45:00] | Achew22: | hahahahahahh "We will work to make america what we want it to be... a literate country, and a hopefuller country" – George W. Bush |
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| [21:46:00] | ohgood: | Are there any plans to make mythtv use postgresql, or is it possible now ? |
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| [21:51:00] | Dibblah: | ohgood: Have you looked in Trac? There's two answers. One's there, the other one isn't. |
| [21:52:00] | Spunx: | omg, it worked! |
| [21:52:00] | ohgood: | Dibblah: Trac ? |
| [21:52:00] | Dibblah: | In Trac is a non-applied patch for psql. |
| [21:52:00] | ohgood: | Dibblah: thanks, i'll see what i can dig up. |
| [21:52:00] | Dibblah: | The other one is that no, Isaac sorta plans to move to a smaller local-only sql server. |
| [21:54:00] | Dibblah: | Which I completely forget the name of atm. |
| [21:54:00] | ohgood: | Dibblah: i'm only looking this direction because of having major troubles attempting ot setup mysql. |
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| [21:54:00] | Dibblah: | Uh... Huh. Have you followed the documentation? |
| [21:55:00] | Dibblah: | (It works well for many, many people – The documentation is good ;) |
| [21:55:00] | ohgood: | Dibblah: yes. i'm actually re-installing mysql now, since it's going to rain for two days. |
| [21:55:00] | Dibblah: | That's a good enough reason :) |
| [21:56:00] | Dibblah: | What issues are you seeing? |
| [21:56:00] | ohgood: | Dibblah: i was caught in a catch-22 if you will, something about not being able to set root's pass, because the service wsn't running, and not being able to start the service because root's pass wasn't set. |
| [21:56:00] | ohgood: | Dibblah: it's been weeks, so my exact error has fogged over a little. |
| [21:58:00] | Dibblah: | That's not a catch-22. |
| [21:58:00] | ohgood: | ok... |
| [21:59:00] | Dibblah: | http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php#mysql |
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| [22:00:00] | ohgood: | o |
| [22:00:00] | ohgood: | i' |
| [22:00:00] | ohgood: | damn |
| [22:00:00] | ohgood: | i'll have to try if/when it finishes compiling |
| [22:00:00] | Dibblah: | :) |
| [22:01:00] | Dibblah: | That's not in the main docs because it's not directly Myth installation – It's a prerequisite thing. |
| [22:01:00] | Dibblah: | I would assume :) |
| [22:01:00] | ohgood: | ya |
| [22:02:00] | Dibblah: | But Jarod's guide should help you over some other bumps anyway :) |
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| [22:05:00] | ohgood: | more docs is always a good thing : ) |
| [22:07:00] | coochan: | I think a little embedded sql server is not a bad idea |
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| [22:07:00] | coochan: | mysql config is a big problem for users |
| [22:08:00] | ** ohgood doesn't know what embedded sql is, but config sure is a problem for me ** | |
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| [22:39:00] | alc6379: | hey... is there a particular version of MySQL that's recommended for the latest MythTV build? |
| [22:39:00] | Achew22: | alc6379 4.0+ |
| [22:39:00] | Chutt: | < 5.0 |
| [22:40:00] | alc6379: | ok...that's what I thought |
| [22:41:00] | Led-Hed: | I'm not familiar with bash scripts, but I need a script that will do the following: gens filename -s , in a DOS batch file you can use %1 for this. example gens %1 -s. gens-script.bat filename. |
| [22:41:00] | alc6379: | is the script going to have arguments? How is the variable getting fed to it? |
| [22:42:00] | Led-Hed: | the only arguement is -s. but it must come after the file name |
| [22:42:00] | Led-Hed: | gens is a sega genesis emulater I want to use with MythGame |
| [22:43:00] | Led-Hed: | from the commandline I do this: gens romname.bin -s |
| [22:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | why do you need a bash script ? |
| [22:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | just put "gens %s -s" in the mythgame setup for that emulator |
| [22:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | it will replace %s with the filename when launching the emulator |
| [22:44:00] | Led-Hed: | GreyFoxx, normally in the mythgame interface you pass the executable + options before the filename |
| [22:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | ppfftt |
| [22:44:00] | Led-Hed: | %s represents the filename? |
| [22:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [22:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | :) |
| [22:45:00] | Led-Hed: | cool. thanks GreyFoxx |
| [22:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | That should be shown in the help text at the bottom of the screen when you have that field selected |
| [22:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | If it's not there I'll add it |
| [22:46:00] | Led-Hed: | it mey be there, but I can never see the help text because of overscanning |
| [22:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | ahhh |
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| [22:56:00] | topher: | hey all! i did a lot of upgrades and everything's looking good but xvinfo's reporting xvideo is loaded but no adaptors present for my nvidia card. i remember this was a simple problem but i dont recall what. anybody remember what the problem is with nvidia and xv? |
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| [22:59:00] | Umaro: | Hey guys.. just wondering.. how practical is it to use an xbox as a frontend? will it do mpeg4? |
| [23:00:00] | topher: | nm folks |
| [23:00:00] | topher: | damn fedora config overrode my xorg.conf file |
| [23:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | Umaro: Many people use xbox's as frontends |
| [23:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | and it should handle mpeg4 |
| [23:02:00] | topher: | Has anybody had experience using VGA->S-VIDEO or VGA->Composite boxes? I seem them available from a lot of companies and was just wondering what people's experiences are. |
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| [23:08:00] | topher: | is there a way to check why mythtv isnt loading/finding my plugins? i installed mythtv just fine and it works and i built and installed the plugins just fine but none of them are showing up. they were installing to / instead of /usr/local/ (and i didnt specify --prefix) at all. this is 0.19 |
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| [23:10:00] | topher: | hrm, well, nm, specifying a prefix works. i dont know why it's defaulting to /, nothing else does that to my knowledge |
| [23:10:00] | ohgood: | i'm fairly certain i haven't moofed anything yet, and i'm following my distro's setup guide for mysql (gentoo) . if there is a gentoo user that could assist me a while, that would be great. :) Here's the errror i'm getting while following: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/mysql-howto.xml at section 1.4: error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)' |
| [23:10:00] | topher: | ohgood: your password is correct? |
| [23:10:00] | ohgood: | topher: i have yet to set a password |
| [23:10:00] | topher: | ohgood: oh, then it's probably the prviledge table denying root access from your ip. are you on the box or setting it up remotely? |
| [23:11:00] | ohgood: | yessire |
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| [23:11:00] | ohgood: | sorry, yes, at the box |
| [23:11:00] | topher: | heh |
| [23:11:00] | Dibblah: | when you emerged it, did you get a message saying "root password is ..."? |
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| [23:11:00] | ohgood: | Dibblah: i have no idea, i was away while it finished. |
| [23:11:00] | Dibblah: | That's why god invented scroll-back buffers. |
| [23:11:00] | Dibblah: | ;) |
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| [23:12:00] | ohgood: | my God is still mad at me, and he let me set my own scroll back buffer too low. |
| [23:12:00] | topher: | ohgood: what happens when you type "mysql -u root" |
| [23:13:00] | ohgood: | topher: the same error as above |
| [23:13:00] | ohgood: | hey, hold on, i'll try 'ebuild /var/db/pkg/dev-db/mysql-[version]/mysql-[version].ebuild config' again, see if it fixes anything |
| [23:14:00] | topher: | ok, it looks like the grant table is just denying you. you can stop mysql and start it with the --skip-grant-tables option, then itll let you in and you can set a password and set it to allow your ip and restart with grant tables. i dont know how any of that applies to your distro but that's the "from source" way |
| [23:14:00] | ohgood: | bahhh , that was the problem... i'll move on now :) |
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| [23:17:00] | ohgood: | for the record, you folks helped more than #mysql, and the channel has a nicer signal/noise here |
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| [23:17:00] | topher: | ohgood: where'd you get your nick from? |
| [23:18:00] | topher: | i mean, i should have prefaced that with "i like it"; just curious |
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| [23:18:00] | Dibblah: | s/n is purely time dependent. Sometimes... It's waay more noise than signal. |
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| [23:19:00] | ohgood: | topher: it used to be 'ohgoodgreif', in reference to my life generally being a carbon copy of charlie browns', but i've had a _little_ better luck recently, so i've dropped the 'greif', but remember it well. :) |
| [23:20:00] | ohgood: | Dibblah: ya, that seems to be the case all around freenode |
| [23:20:00] | topher: | haha |
| [23:22:00] | ohgood: | weird, now i'm still getting the error trying to login |
| [23:24:00] | ohgood: | seems it only takes the password in the setup, then can't be changed <shrug> |
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| [23:25:00] | nasa: | If I want to use xvmc — do I need to compile it in? (I compiled from svn, doing another configure didn't seem to add it. ie: XvMC support no) |
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| [23:28:00] | jjlawren: | can someone help me with a mythvideo sql problem? |
| [23:28:00] | Agrajag-: | not unless you tell us what the problem is |
| [23:29:00] | jjlawren: | fair enough |
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| [23:29:00] | jjlawren: | when I use the imdb search script, the category for that entry is set to a random number |
| [23:29:00] | topher: | there used to be a guy who could answer questions before they were answered, but he headed out west on horseback long ago ... |
| [23:29:00] | jjlawren: | and not a number that has a category assigned to it |
| [23:30:00] | jjlawren: | so it basically disappears unless i find it under "all" and reset the category |
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| [23:33:00] | jjlawren: | any guesses? |
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| [23:38:00] | ohgood: | ok, i've apparently got mythtv installed, and mysql setup, somewhat, but when i issue 'mysql < /usr/share/mythtv/database/mc.sql' i get denied. |
| [23:39:00] | jjlawren: | you need to tell it what user and what database |
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| [23:39:00] | ohgood: | hmm, how am i to know the user and database ? |
| [23:40:00] | jjlawren: | i.e.: 'mysql -u mythtv -pmythtv mythconverg < /usr/share/mythtv/database/mc.sql' |
| [23:40:00] | gnuyen: | is there a 0.19 frontend build for os x? |
| [23:40:00] | jjlawren: | you set up the user :-) |
| [23:40:00] | jjlawren: | and mythconverg is the database |
| [23:40:00] | ohgood: | ok, that gets denied also |
| [23:41:00] | ohgood: | if i setup mysql without a password, i can't set one later, if i set one at the beginning, i can't modify anything later... i don't get it. |
| [23:43:00] | jjlawren: | did you set a root password on the database? |
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| [23:43:00] | jjlawren: | do that step again |
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| [23:43:00] | jjlawren: | and use '-u root -p<password>' when you access the database |
| [23:43:00] | jjlawren: | there is NO space between -p and the password |
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| [23:44:00] | ohgood: | hmm, ok, i'll try that |
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| [23:44:00] | ohgood: | this is what i'm following for mysql setup: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/mysql-howto.xml i'm at step 1.3 |
| [23:45:00] | ohgood: | this is what i'm following for mythtv setup: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_MythTV i'm at step 'setting up the inital database' |
| [23:45:00] | ** ohgood tries ** | |
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| [23:47:00] | ohgood: | ok, that doesn't work either. i'll just rm all the mysql junk and start over. again. |
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| [23:48:00] | ohgood: | i'm still getting denied |
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| [23:53:00] | ** briand yawns. ** | |
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| [23:55:00] | nasa: | configure with svn seems to try and detect xvmc. What is required to make that happen? |
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| [23:57:00] | scopeuk: | ok ive nuked my debian install (not unexpected i broke x) so whats recomended as the quickest/best tutorialised distro besdies the what you know method becouse as is now prety damn obvious i dont rearly know any distro |
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| [23:59:00] | nasa: | scopeuk: I used mandriva to get a base install — then compiled from svn for myth |
| [23:59:00] | squish102: | scopeuk, knoppmyth worked out the box for me... to the most part |
| [23:59:00] | topher: | scopeuk: i think a lot of people suggest the knoppix-myth distro or something |
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