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[00:01:00] | xris: | Todd: what kind of tuner? |
[00:01:00] | Todd: | PVR500 |
[00:01:00] | Todd: | I had it working on .18 too |
[00:01:00] | dmachi: | briand: is your 350 working fine with livetv in .19? |
[00:02:00] | eiggirC: | strange – how can a recording have both commercials flagged and commercial flagging in progress at the same time? |
[00:03:00] | Jason: | I have been trying to get MythTV working on Ubuntu with a WinTV PVR 350. I am able to use ivtvctl/ivtv-tune to change channel and input, then cat /dev/video0 and even redirect to my TV on /dev/video16. Remote control works and all. My problem is that when I push "Watch TV" in MythTV I just get "Unable to initialize video." The output from the frontend is "IVTV_IOC_GET_FB: Invalid argument". In mythtv-setup I set /dev/video0 to us |
[00:03:00] | Jason: | e tuner0 and linked it with zap2it. I am lost at what to try. |
[00:03:00] | dmachi: | not finished? |
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[00:03:00] | Todd: | the exact error is: 2006-02–18 18:43:52.800 RingBuf(/video/recordings/1004_20060218184352.mpg): Invalid file (fd 18) when opening '/video/recordings/1004_20060218184352.mpg'. 12 retries remaining. |
[00:03:00] | Jason: | any help is greatly appreciated |
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[00:06:00] | fatdave: | hey guys. how is everyone |
[00:06:00] | drdaz: | hello all... I just upgraded to 0.19... it seems that the only deinterlace mode I'm able to use is bob :-/ |
[00:06:00] | drdaz: | all of the settings seem to have the same effect I mean (the slight flickering) |
[00:07:00] | ** drdaz thinks ** | |
[00:07:00] | bitbang: | hey briand, how do i set this all up with xdm and twm? my computer has limited power and i would like this to be minimalistic... i have twm and xdm installed, but how do i get the service for that configured? |
[00:07:00] | drdaz: | hmm this could be xvmc related couldnt it? |
[00:07:00] | Jason: | drdaz, me? |
[00:07:00] | drdaz: | |
[00:07:00] | Jason: | I read somewhere to turn that off, but I couldn't find the option in mythtv-setup |
[00:08:00] | fatdave: | i would like to pick your brains on some customization tips |
[00:08:00] | fatdave: | anyone know how to turn off the auto play thing with totem? whenever I stick a dvd in it comes up |
[00:09:00] | Jason: | I have been trying to get MythTV working on Ubuntu with a WinTV PVR 350. I am able to use ivtvctl/ivtv-tune to change channel and input, then cat /dev/video0 and even redirect to my TV on /dev/video16. Remote control works and all. My problem is that when I push "Watch TV" in MythTV I just get "Unable to initialize video." The output from the frontend is "IVTV_IOC_GET_FB: Invalid argument". In mythtv-setup I set /dev/video0 to us |
[00:09:00] | Jason: | e tuner0 and linked it with zap2it. I am lost at what to try. |
[00:09:00] | drdaz: | aha... it is xvmc related |
[00:10:00] | drdaz: | using a standard decoder the other deinterlacers work |
[00:10:00] | fatdave: | Jason, does everything look ok between the START and END tags for IVTV in dmesg? |
[00:10:00] | Jason: | yes, it does |
[00:10:00] | Jason: | no errors |
[00:10:00] | rav3r: | trying to get my irblaster to work. any way to tell if i should use irq=4 io=0x3f8 or irq=3 io=0x2f8? |
[00:10:00] | fatdave: | hmm. i just set up ivtv drivers on ubuntu for my pvt-350 last night and I'm not having the problem |
[00:10:00] | Jason: | hrm |
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[00:11:00] | fatdave: | did you follow the tutorial? |
[00:11:00] | fatdave: | i can give you the link if you need it |
[00:11:00] | Jason: | I had some errors there, but I fixed them |
[00:11:00] | rav3r: | seems like there was a command that lists all the stuff andwhere it is connected... |
[00:11:00] | Jason: | I followed abarbaccia.com |
[00:11:00] | Jason: | what did you use? |
[00:11:00] | fatdave: | i think that one is similar, but here is the link for the one i used... |
[00:12:00] | drdaz: | anybody noticed the preview in recordings has some funny colours? |
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[00:13:00] | MikeyMan: | Can anybody tell me if the GeForce4 MX 4000 is actually truly a GeForce4-class card? |
[00:13:00] | drdaz: | it is not |
[00:13:00] | drdaz: | but for myth... its probably better |
[00:13:00] | kormoc: | it is in a certain respect |
[00:13:00] | Jason: | fatdave? |
[00:13:00] | scopeuk: | the mx are 2 series comparable arnt they? |
[00:14:00] | MikeyMan: | scopeuk: Yeah that's what I seem to remember reading. |
[00:14:00] | drdaz: | yeah |
[00:14:00] | drdaz: | that's right |
[00:14:00] | MikeyMan: | So on Gentoo if I have nvidia in my USE flags that would explain why mythfrontend is crashing X |
[00:14:00] | fatdave: | http://hyams.webhop.net/mythtv/myth_ubuntu.html |
[00:14:00] | kormoc: | http://www.littlewhitedog.com/content-46.html |
[00:14:00] | Jason: | thanks, looking over that now |
[00:14:00] | MikeyMan: | Because it is my understanding that the nvidia USE flag requires a GeForce4 or better. |
[00:14:00] | drdaz: | but it has mpeg2 acceleration features not present in either GF4 or 2 |
[00:15:00] | MikeyMan: | Hmm. |
[00:15:00] | kormoc: | drdaz, the GeForce 4's have XvMC |
[00:15:00] | drdaz: | oO |
[00:15:00] | drdaz: | fully implemented? |
[00:15:00] | fatdave: | so anyone know how to turn off totem so that it doesn't come up when i put in a dvd? |
[00:15:00] | MikeyMan: | Hmm, when I run mythfrontend my X locks up and /var/log/messages has an entry that reads: |
[00:15:00] | drdaz: | I read otherwise recently |
[00:15:00] | kormoc: | drdaz, first gen card to do so. |
[00:15:00] | MikeyMan: | "NVRM: Xid: 13, 000 ..." |
[00:15:00] | MikeyMan: | Looks like an error message to me. |
[00:15:00] | Jason: | could the problem be my video card? I just have an integrated intel crap. I plan to use the 350 output to go to tv, and not watch on screen. but could that be causing problems? |
[00:15:00] | drdaz: | I'll try and dig up a link |
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[00:16:00] | kormoc: | http://freevo.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/doc/Hardware/Nvidia |
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[00:16:00] | fatdave: | hm..dont' know Jason. i'm using the tv-out right now |
[00:16:00] | kormoc: | "GeForce4 MX and GeForce FX products support |
[00:16:00] | kormoc: | both XvMC's "IDCT" and "motion-compensation" levels of acceleration. |
[00:16:00] | kormoc: | GeForce4 Ti products only support the motion-compensation level." |
[00:16:00] | fatdave: | but i didn't have a problem with my nv chipset vga either |
[00:16:00] | Jason: | k |
[00:16:00] | drdaz: | thats the stuff |
[00:16:00] | fatdave: | so anyone know how to turn off totem so that it doesn't come up when i put in a dvd? |
[00:17:00] | drdaz: | the Ti series is what I class as a true GF4 card |
[00:17:00] | drdaz: | the MX was GF2 with knobs on |
[00:18:00] | kormoc: | drdaz, the MX is actually a GeForce 4 core tho, just with certain things disabled and other stuff enabled. it sort of is a true geforce 4 gpu, just not quite :P |
[00:18:00] | drdaz: | heh ok |
[00:18:00] | ** drdaz was wrong ** | |
[00:18:00] | Jason: | fatdave, do you know how to make mythtv use the s-video input instead of the TV cable input? |
[00:19:00] | ** briand thought he was wrong once, but he was mistaken. ** | |
[00:19:00] | MikeyMan: | Well, I'm going to try without with the nvidia USE flag, it's worth a shot at least |
[00:19:00] | drdaz: | I recall reading that about the 4*MX's |
[00:19:00] | MikeyMan: | If that fixes it I think I'll buy myself a 6200 or something. |
[00:19:00] | drdaz: | lol |
[00:19:00] | drdaz: | hmm |
[00:19:00] | fatdave: | never tried it Jason. i just have cable straight in |
[00:19:00] | drdaz: | 6200 is borked too tho isnt it? |
[00:19:00] | drdaz: | at least at the moment |
[00:19:00] | kormoc: | drdaz, why would that be? |
[00:19:00] | MikeyMan: | Is it? lol |
[00:19:00] | Jason: | k |
[00:19:00] | fatdave: | oh! Jason. maybe you can help me with this |
[00:20:00] | drdaz: | driver support? |
[00:20:00] | kormoc: | drdaz, fully supported |
[00:20:00] | drdaz: | I could be on a roll at getting stuff wrong here |
[00:20:00] | drdaz: | lol |
[00:20:00] | MikeyMan: | I bought the MX 4000 because it had no fan... didn't pay much attention to the features though. |
[00:20:00] | ** drdaz sighs ** | |
[00:20:00] | fatdave: | usually i loop my sound into my sound card in the mic input. then go out of the sound card to my stereo |
[00:20:00] | fatdave: | but for some reason I can't get the sound to work |
[00:20:00] | fatdave: | the stupid ubuntu sounds work |
[00:21:00] | fatdave: | and the sound works if I go straight from the hauppauge card to the stereo |
[00:21:00] | fatdave: | so i must have something muted or something but am to stupid to figure it out |
[00:21:00] | fatdave: | have any ideas? |
[00:21:00] | drdaz: | **Notice** Ignore any information I spew tonight. It is invariably wrong. |
[00:21:00] | drdaz: | :p |
[00:21:00] | kormoc: | drdaz, hehe, tis okay :) |
[00:21:00] | drdaz: | :D |
[00:21:00] | seanmccann: | I am in Canada and all three UScables do not work as the table freq |
[00:22:00] | seanmccann: | What do I use? |
[00:22:00] | drdaz: | kormoc u seen weird colours in 0.19's recording previews? |
[00:22:00] | kormoc: | seanmccann, most canadians (kormoc peers at Beirdo) use a us table I do beleive |
[00:22:00] | Dibblah: | Hmmm... Anyone any opinions as to if this is an idea that might fly? http://pastebin.ca/42101 |
[00:22:00] | kormoc: | drdaz, yeah... a few of us have noticed it |
[00:23:00] | drdaz: | ok |
[00:23:00] | drdaz: | no ideas as to cause yet? |
[00:23:00] | Dibblah: | (kernel style compilation output, rather than the amount of 'noise' thrown out at the moment) |
[00:23:00] | kormoc: | not yet, tho it was one of the later commits |
[00:23:00] | drdaz: | kk |
[00:24:00] | drdaz: | mythweb looks kinda sex0r now btw |
[00:24:00] | fatdave: | can you make the menu that overlays the TV smaller? |
[00:24:00] | kormoc: | drdaz, yeah, xris did a great job |
[00:24:00] | seanmccann: | Do any Canadian with MythTV use a table other than the US ones? |
[00:24:00] | Dibblah: | Lots of people use tables. |
[00:24:00] | Dibblah: | It's not just a US phenomenon. |
[00:24:00] | Dibblah: | They're rather handy. |
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[00:25:00] | drdaz: | I like to eat off them myself |
[00:25:00] | psofa: | where in the database are the weather settings? |
[00:25:00] | briand: | not me. I rest my plate on it, and eat off the plate. |
[00:25:00] | Dibblah: | Really? I like to eat off plates. |
[00:25:00] | xris: | drdaz: just wait for the next version when I have time to redo the toolbar, etc. |
[00:25:00] | Dibblah: | Bugger. Beaten :) |
[00:25:00] | briand: | not by much. :) |
[00:25:00] | drdaz: | briand: lol |
[00:25:00] | fatdave: | briand! yay. can i pick your brain? |
[00:25:00] | briand: | i dunno.. sounds painful! |
[00:25:00] | fatdave: | thanks again for the help last night |
[00:25:00] | briand: | np |
[00:25:00] | drdaz: | xris: looking forward to it :D |
[00:25:00] | briand: | :) |
[00:25:00] | Dibblah: | briand: You don't know my GF. |
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[00:26:00] | Dibblah: | (Not grapefruit) |
[00:26:00] | briand: | Dibblah: ...at least as far as *you* know... ;) |
[00:26:00] | fatdave: | how can i turn off totem. it comes up whenever i stick a dvd in. and it overlays mythtv and screws everything up |
[00:26:00] | xpis: | Beirdo: are you anywhere around? |
[00:26:00] | Jason: | fatdave, briand help you setup yours up? would he be able to help w/ my problem? =) |
[00:26:00] | briand: | xpis: he had oral surgery this morning |
[00:26:00] | xpis: | briand: I know. |
[00:27:00] | fatdave: | Jason, you can always ask :) |
[00:27:00] | briand: | haven't heard from him since.. he's probably sleepin' |
[00:27:00] | Jason: | briand, question for you =) |
[00:27:00] | xpis: | briand: 4 wisdom teeth removed. (I have had the same done, so I know he's now probably in maximum pain) |
[00:27:00] | Jason: | I have been trying to get MythTV working on Ubuntu with a WinTV PVR 350. I am able to use ivtvctl/ivtv-tune to change channel and input, then cat /dev/video0 and even redirect to my TV on /dev/video16. Remote control works and all. My problem is that when I push "Watch TV" in MythTV I just get "Unable to initialize video." The output from the frontend is "IVTV_IOC_GET_FB: Invalid argument". In mythtv-setup I set /dev/video0 to us |
[00:27:00] | Jason: | e tuner0 and linked it with zap2it. I am lost at what to try. |
[00:27:00] | briand: | totem.. hmm. i never heard of it. |
[00:27:00] | seanmccann: | WOW you guys are helpfull |
[00:27:00] | fatdave: | totem movie player |
[00:28:00] | epictetus: | how do i change the codec that mythtv saves its video in? |
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[00:28:00] | briand: | Jason: version of ivtv? ..and mythtv? |
[00:28:00] | MikeyMan: | Change it in the recording profile that you're using |
[00:29:00] | briand: | epictetus: recording profile |
[00:29:00] | MikeyMan: | If you're talking about LiveTV, then change the LiveTV profile |
[00:29:00] | Jason: | ivtv 0.4.3. mythtv – umm, whatever apt-get install mythtv grabs |
[00:29:00] | briand: | Jason: use pastebin and show me your dmesg output after a fresh boot |
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[00:30:00] | briand: | fatdave: i dunno how to turn off that behaviour, since i've never seen totem — is there something in the config you can toggle, maybe? |
[00:30:00] | Jason: | sorry, what is pastebin? not in my path – do I need to d/l it somewhere? as far as the dmesg, I can tell you there are no errors in it |
[00:30:00] | briand: | Jason: http://pastebin.ca ...it's a web site. :) |
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[00:30:00] | Jason: | lol |
[00:31:00] | Jason: | cool |
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[00:31:00] | Jason: | briand, how cool! http://pastebin.com/561973 |
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[00:33:00] | Jason: | oops, I used the .com version |
[00:34:00] | dmachi: | briand: Does your pvr-350 have trouble switching between programs with .19? |
[00:34:00] | Jason: | briand: mythtv version says: 0.18.1.20050510–1 |
[00:34:00] | xpis: | Beirdo: if you cache messages with your name prefixed to them... I got 0.0.2 to compile on amd64, but ffmpeg chokes on nuv files with "error, non monotone timestamps" |
[00:35:00] | briand: | dmachi: not that i've noticed, no... |
[00:35:00] | fatdave: | briand, i'll poke around with that one for a bit |
[00:35:00] | fatdave: | new question |
[00:35:00] | fatdave: | this is an audio question |
[00:36:00] | briand: | Jason: can you post the entire dmesg output? there's no ivtv-fb info there |
[00:36:00] | fatdave: | i hook the audio coming from the pvr-350 to my sound card (mic). and i go from the sound card to my stereo |
[00:36:00] | fatdave: | but the sound doesn't for TV. i can hear the ubuntu sounds and everything though |
[00:36:00] | fatdave: | so its like i have something muted. any ideas? |
[00:37:00] | ** briand has to stand now... kitty was sleeping on the sub-woofer, but she apparently cannot sleep thru GFR's "Closer To Home" ** | |
[00:37:00] | Jason: | briand: wait a second, I was never told (abarbaccia.com tutorial) anything about ivtv-fb. maybe that is my problem. |
[00:37:00] | briand: | fatdave: did you create a cable to patch from pvr-350 thru your sound card? |
[00:37:00] | briand: | Jason: yes, that'd be the problem. you need to set up ivtv-fb (framebuffer) to have one to write to... ;) |
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[00:38:00] | Jason: | oh good lord – why no earth would that tutorial not talk about it |
[00:38:00] | Jason: | one sec, researching =) |
[00:38:00] | fatdave: | i bought the cable from radio shack or something |
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[00:39:00] | briand: | fatdave: usually better off thru the "line in" rather than "mic" ... but that's an audio level thing... |
[00:39:00] | fatdave: | it worked before. so I know the cabling is ok. and if i go straight from the hauppage card to the stereo it works. but that doesn't work for dvd's then |
[00:39:00] | fatdave: | yeah, i've tried both |
[00:39:00] | briand: | fatdave: right, nor will it work for mythmusic, etc |
[00:39:00] | briand: | fatdave: use the "line in" by default... closer match |
[00:39:00] | fatdave: | yeah |
[00:39:00] | fatdave: | ok |
[00:39:00] | fatdave: | i guess i'll just play around with that too |
[00:39:00] | fatdave: | briand, one last question |
[00:39:00] | briand: | sure |
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[00:40:00] | fatdave: | do you know if there is a way to make the menu that overlays the TV smaller? its going off the screen a bit |
[00:40:00] | briand: | (y'know, the 'old-timers' around here are probably laughing their asses off — it wasn't that long ago that I was asking all the questions!) |
[00:40:00] | briand: | fatdave: which menu? |
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[00:40:00] | Jason: | briand: I am not seeing "ivtv-fb" in my tutorial or the one fatdave said he used. what am I missing? |
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[00:40:00] | fatdave: | i adjusted the settings in mythtv so that the myth gui fits. but that tv overlay menu thing didn't change |
[00:40:00] | briand: | the OSD menu is the one that overlays the screen — but which one in particular? |
[00:41:00] | briand: | Jason: you're missing the whole bit about using the PVR-350's TV-Out. |
[00:41:00] | fatdave: | add ivtv-fb to the end of /etc/modules |
[00:41:00] | fatdave: | right after ivtv |
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[00:41:00] | briand: | fatdave: there's a bit more to it than that |
[00:41:00] | Kelerion: | kormoc, I think I have my xorg problem sussed |
[00:41:00] | kormoc: | yeah? |
[00:41:00] | drdaz: | ffs... I recall something about attaining 100dpi for correct frontend font sizing but for the life of me I cant remember where that doc was... anybody know offhand? |
[00:41:00] | Jason: | briand: I would like to use tv out, yes...but for testing purposes I figured I would still be able to see it on screen, no? |
[00:42:00] | briand: | Jason: check out jarod wilson's Fedora Myth(TV)ology tutorial.. he has a whole PVR-350 TV-Out section in there.. |
[00:42:00] | fatdave: | you have to do that, place the x driver (thats easy. its in binary form already for ubuntu) and then change your x config. Jason, if you want to see my x config i'll show you |
[00:42:00] | hadees: | does anyone know of a plugin, possibly 3rd party or an external program that will video files from rss feeds and put them into mythvideo |
[00:42:00] | psofa: | whats the signal and tuning timeout in capture card option? |
[00:42:00] | Kelerion: | I think I had it right from the beginning.. but was working from a wrong assumption |
[00:42:00] | Jason: | briand, I will check that out. fatdave, yes I would like to see it please |
[00:42:00] | Kelerion: | there's apparently a bug with my mobo |
[00:42:00] | psofa: | after that timeout myth considers the channel unreachable and gives up? |
[00:43:00] | briand: | dmachi: what sort of strangeness are you seeing on your TV-Out? |
[00:43:00] | Kelerion: | if I have pcix card set as the primary.. then the x300 (onboard) disappears.. so I need to enable "SurroundView" in my bios.. and that doesn't work |
[00:43:00] | Kelerion: | but.. the fglrx card drivers will not work correctly with the x700 as a secondary card |
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[00:44:00] | dmachi: | briand: it freezes and i have to escape |
[00:44:00] | dmachi: | briand: frontend that is |
[00:44:00] | briand: | fatdave: the OSD stuff is (mostly) in the -osd theme you've chosen.. you can go in and tweak those files a bit. the main pop-up menu (with the guide, aspect ratio, etc) is hard-coded, though. |
[00:44:00] | Kelerion: | theres apparently a way around it (something to do with resetting bios – *then* putting in the second card... or something).. so am waiting for some feedback from the mobo manufacturers... there quite regulars on a particular forum.. |
[00:45:00] | rav3r_: | im trying to get my irblaster to work, i see the lirc-kmdl in atrpm does not match my kernel, does that mean i need to updage my kernal? |
[00:45:00] | rav3r_: | update |
[00:45:00] | briand: | dmachi: not seen anything like that in 0.19... occasionally it'd do that (maybe once a month or less) under 0.18.1 |
[00:45:00] | dmachi: | briand: its actually not on my tv-out though, its on a normal frontend (350 is in the backend) |
[00:45:00] | Kelerion: | but I do have dual-head working perfectly at the moment with my x700 |
[00:45:00] | dmachi: | briand: it seems like it gets stuck when it tries to switch to the next programs ringbuffer |
[00:46:00] | fatdave: | Jason, http://pastebin.ca/42103 |
[00:46:00] | briand: | dmachi: yeah, dev- was talking about that yesterday... I ran LiveTV for a couple hours, through several 1/2-hour programs, and never saw a glitch, pause, or anything. |
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[00:47:00] | Kelerion: | even have full dri and gl working on the dual-head.. so am happy at the moment... will be happier still when I get all three outputs working.. but this is fine for now |
[00:47:00] | fatdave: | i'm going to see about this audio problem now. later all |
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[00:47:00] | briand: | Jason: just be sure to modify the framebuffer device and PCI busid ... |
[00:47:00] | dmachi: | briand: its annoying, i've been using this same setup since ~.14 I believe. I started running into this issue in svn a few months ago so I switched back to .18, but now its happening again with .19. Also seems to have a problem scheduling a recording in the guide, but already scheduled programs do get recorded :/ |
[00:48:00] | dmachi: | dmachi: gotta figure it out before my wife shoots me though :P |
[00:48:00] | dmachi: | err briand :) |
[00:48:00] | briand: | dmachi: hmm.. i dunno.. it may be related to having separate front/backends... i think dev- has a similar setup. |
[00:48:00] | dmachi: | ok i talked to him once before...I'll try to catch him thanks :) |
[00:49:00] | briand: | dmachi: i don't know that he's reached any resolution on it, either, yet... |
[00:49:00] | dmachi: | briand: so you are runnign combined without issue. |
[00:49:00] | dmachi: | ? |
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[00:50:00] | briand: | dmachi: yes, so far.. at least not experiencing the problem you and dev- describe |
[00:50:00] | briand: | dmachi: ivtv 0.4.0 (tagged release) and MythTV 0.19 (release) |
[00:51:00] | dmachi: | to me it seems to be a frontend issue, because the backend seems rock solid. It hasn't been crashing. The frontend though will crash. |
[00:51:00] | Jason: | briand, based on that tutorial I added the line to /etc/modules.d/aliases. and then for kicks I typed "sudo /sbin/modprobe ivtv-fb" |
[00:52:00] | Jason: | the output tries to go to my TV but it is just messed up lines (like the wrong output type is selected). audio goes through. the computer itself goes black – which makes sense I guess |
[00:52:00] | briand: | dmachi: i have seen the glitch in LiveTV when you pull up the OSD program guide — there's some screen refreshing there that needs to happen... big black bar across the top of the screen, coincident with where the PiP screen displays (even when not using PiP) |
[00:53:00] | dmachi: | Jason: might want to check out ivtvctl and make sure all that stuff is correct |
[00:53:00] | briand: | Jason: messed up lines?? like semi-diagonal black/static lines? |
[00:53:00] | dmachi: | Jason: at least i think thats what it was called. |
[00:53:00] | Jason: | yes |
[00:53:00] | Jason: | briand: yes |
[00:53:00] | briand: | Jason: check your globalalpha settings |
[00:53:00] | drdaz: | anybody here using ProjectGrayhem-wide? |
[00:53:00] | Jason: | uhhh |
[00:53:00] | rav3r_: | why can i not find lirc-kmdl-2.6.14–1.1656_FC4? google says it is here http://atrpms.net/dist/fc4/lirc/ but it's gone, seems to be gone from every site google lists? |
[00:54:00] | Kelerion: | because Acel only keeps up-to-date versions.. and we are on 2.6.15 now |
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[00:55:00] | Kelerion: | Axel..even |
[00:55:00] | rav3r_: | how can i update my kernel in fedora c4? |
[00:55:00] | j-rod: | yum install kernel |
[00:55:00] | briand: | rav3r: yum update kernel ? |
[00:55:00] | Kelerion: | here's the man to ask |
[00:55:00] | Kelerion: | see? |
[00:55:00] | ** Kelerion chuckles ** | |
[00:56:00] | j-rod: | :) |
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[00:56:00] | thechris: | having a gentoo issue |
[00:56:00] | Jason: | dmachi: thanks, that fixed it. I didn't realize settings in ivtv* command line stuffs was used by mythtv – thought it used all of its own settings |
[00:56:00] | thechris: | 0.19 doens't start |
[00:56:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, that's nutty, but at least it's semi working :) |
[00:56:00] | thechris: | anyone know what is up with that |
[00:56:00] | dmachi: | Jason: np |
[00:56:00] | briand: | Jason: you getting a decent screen now? |
[00:56:00] | Jason: | briand: ok, so tv is coming through now! is there a way to make it show up on screen and tv? |
[00:56:00] | Kelerion: | yup |
[00:56:00] | Kelerion: | thanks for all the help again :) |
[00:56:00] | rav3r_: | ahh, thanks |
[00:57:00] | rav3r_: | hopefully that is my ir blaster issue |
[00:57:00] | kormoc: | thechris, sure, it doesn't start, which is the reason it doesn't start. |
[00:57:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, no problems :) |
[00:57:00] | thechris: | i try to run mythbackend from the console. it gives errors but keeps running |
[00:57:00] | Kelerion: | this is what I get for buying a computer just because it looks good.. and not really try to find if it's all compat with linux |
[00:57:00] | briand: | Jason: yes, by setting up multiple screens in your xorg.conf file. define the television (which you've done) and also define your computer monitor. "Beyond the scope of this channel's mission statement." ;) |
[00:57:00] | dmachi: | Jason: fwiw I think that myth can/does change some of those settings as necessary, but probably relies on you having set some of them up yourself. |
[00:57:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, hehe, live and learn as they say :) |
[00:58:00] | Jason: | ok, looking at fatdave's xorg file, now |
[00:58:00] | Kelerion: | I swore to myself i would *never* buy a readymade pc... but it just *looked* so damn impressive.. lol |
[00:58:00] | kormoc: | dmachi, myth doesn't touch your x config |
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[00:58:00] | briand: | kormoc: i think he was talking about ivtv settings. :) |
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[00:58:00] | sphing: | Juski: you around? |
[00:58:00] | kormoc: | briand, ahh, gotcha. |
[00:59:00] | briand: | kormoc: earlier, jason was having some issues with globalalpha settings, etc. |
[00:59:00] | Kelerion: | whats a good game under linux I can use to test my ati card on? |
[00:59:00] | briand: | tux racer |
[00:59:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, quake4-demo |
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[01:00:00] | Kelerion: | tux is really smooth.. was after something more intensive.. |
[01:00:00] | Kelerion: | that still an ID game? |
[01:00:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, yup, linux native porta nd all |
[01:00:00] | Kelerion: | I've never been a games player.. so just after testing :) |
[01:00:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, ut2004, enemy territory, doom3 |
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[01:00:00] | Kelerion: | well I don't want something I have to buy just to test it... I'll probably never run it again.. lol |
[01:01:00] | sphing: | anyone emerge .19? |
[01:01:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, ut and doom have demos, ET is totally free |
[01:01:00] | kormoc: | sphing, yup |
[01:01:00] | Kelerion: | ok – cool.. thanks :) |
[01:01:00] | thechris: | ok, so anyone know how to get mythbackedn to run? |
[01:01:00] | sphing: | you get any errors wth libmythui |
[01:01:00] | drdaz: | omfg... using ProjectGrayhem-wide I just cant get menu items to stay on one line |
[01:01:00] | kormoc: | thechris, usually just type /etc/init.d/mythbackend start |
[01:01:00] | kormoc: | speakman, nope |
[01:02:00] | thechris: | 2006-02–18 19:00:02.580 TVRec(2) Error: Failed to set channel to 7. Reverting to kState_None |
[01:02:00] | Kelerion: | holy crap... 250mb... ! lol |
[01:02:00] | thechris: | kormoc: that didn't work |
[01:02:00] | kormoc: | sphery, nope, |
[01:02:00] | thechris: | i'm not even sure ivtv works. ivtv is loaded i think |
[01:02:00] | kormoc: | thechris, okay, this is where you use pastebin.ca and put the full output you get and give a link to that rather then relying on us to play 20 questions. |
[01:02:00] | sphing: | kormoc: make[2]: *** [libmythui-0.19.so.0.19.0] Error 1 |
[01:03:00] | scopeuk: | ok can someone tell me the name of the apt repository that myth hides in for debian |
[01:03:00] | thechris: | http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3122215.html#3122215 |
[01:03:00] | kormoc: | sphery, and that's a totally useless error, put the full error messages into a pastebin and link us |
[01:03:00] | sphing: | lol... yea I just wanted to show you that it was libmythui |
[01:03:00] | rav3r: | i updated my kernal, now the screen won't come on, do i need to do something to my nvidia drivers? |
[01:03:00] | rav3r: | i can ssh in |
[01:04:00] | kormoc: | sphing, depending on the level make was on, it could be totally unrelated. |
[01:04:00] | sphing: | http://pastebin.com/562010 |
[01:04:00] | briand: | rav3r: probably need to install a buncha your modules under the new kernel now. |
[01:04:00] | scopeuk: | found it |
[01:04:00] | kormoc: | thechris, more to the point, your issue is myth can't see tuner-0 on your card, rerun mythtv-setup and make sure your card is setup correctly. |
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[01:05:00] | briand: | rav3r: look for ivtv, etc in /lib/modules/<your old kernel version>/ and notice they're not in /lib/modules/<your new kernel version> |
[01:05:00] | kormoc: | sphing, revdep-rebuild and see if things are broke |
[01:05:00] | sphing: | kormoc: it emerged find on another box |
[01:05:00] | sphing: | find = fine |
[01:06:00] | kormoc: | sphing, it would appear that one of your libs are screwed, hence why ld is failing |
[01:06:00] | kormoc: | sphing, revdep-rebuild should find it and fix it |
[01:06:00] | sphing: | kormoc: never used revdep-rebuild.. thanks |
[01:06:00] | kormoc: | sphing, it's part of gentoolkit |
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[01:07:00] | Beirdo: | kormoc's a gentool ;) |
[01:07:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
[01:07:00] | kormoc: | :P |
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[01:07:00] | Kelerion: | ok – downloading ET :) |
[01:07:00] | sphing: | lol |
[01:07:00] | thechris: | kormoc: i fixed the settings but it still doesn't work |
[01:07:00] | thechris: | anything else |
[01:08:00] | kormoc: | thechris, does it still complain about the tuner-0 being missing? |
[01:08:00] | thechris: | mythtv seemed to have changed my "inputs" but my cards were still in there correctly. |
[01:08:00] | thechris: | kormoc: yep |
[01:08:00] | thechris: | 2006-02–18 19:08:12.043 ChannelBase: Could not find input: Tuner 0 on card when setting channel 31 |
[01:08:00] | thechris: | but it doens't give other erros beyond that like it used to |
[01:08:00] | kormoc: | thechris, that would indicate that eather myth or ivtv is screwed up. |
[01:09:00] | scopeuk: | does any one knwo what version of myth is crrently in marrilot? |
[01:09:00] | kormoc: | thechris, given the error, if you are sure myth is correctly set, it would indicate that ivtv is broke |
[01:10:00] | ** Kelerion remembers the original Wolfenstein games on windows.... those were addictive! lol ** | |
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[01:10:00] | ** Kelerion waits to see if they improved ** | |
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[01:11:00] | briand: | Kelerion: i remember using the editor in castle wolfenstein to create a game that mimicked the layout at the software company we worked at ... so you could break into the CEO's office and blow him away! |
[01:12:00] | Led-Hed: | if I upgrade from 0.18.1 to 0.19 do I need to backup by Database? |
[01:12:00] | Beirdo: | would be well advised to do so, Led-Hed |
[01:12:00] | briand: | Led-Hed: it is highly suggested in nearly every write-up... but do what _you_ think is best. |
[01:12:00] | thechris: | kormoc: it seems ivtv works just fine |
[01:12:00] | briand: | Beirdo!! how're you feelin? |
[01:12:00] | thechris: | which makes this a mythtv issue |
[01:12:00] | Beirdo: | not bad, actually |
[01:12:00] | briand: | good to hear. :) |
[01:13:00] | Beirdo: | the real pain will come eventually, right now it's just a dull roar |
[01:13:00] | briand: | Beirdo: maybe yes, maybe no... |
[01:13:00] | Led-Hed: | Beirdo, thanks. |
[01:13:00] | rav3r: | briand: ls /lib/modules/2.6.14–1.1656_FC4/ doesn't list any ivtv |
[01:13:00] | Beirdo: | I hope this is the worst of it, but I won't depend on it |
[01:13:00] | Kelerion: | I got into a bit of trouble when I was a kid and ended up in prison... we had a computer lab there run by the local college.. a tutor brought in the original doom and I got addicted... so I started playing with editors and built a game of the prison... it was confiscated... they thought Iwas trying to break out |
[01:13:00] | xpis: | Beirdo: did you get the message I left with your name prefixed to it? |
[01:13:00] | briand: | rav3r: i'd imagine not. you need to install ivtv under the new kernel |
[01:13:00] | Beirdo: | I've had sinus headaches worse than this (so far) |
[01:14:00] | Beirdo: | I see it in the scrollback |
[01:14:00] | briand: | Beirdo: yup. i've had some doozy toothaches... but never much trouble with pain after oral surgery |
[01:14:00] | Beirdo: | so that was spewed from nuv2avi? |
[01:14:00] | ** sphing loves kormoc ** | |
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[01:15:00] | Beirdo: | sphing, don't think he's your type :) |
[01:15:00] | xpis: | Beirdo: yep. That's what happens when it is compiled under x86_64. |
[01:15:00] | thechris: | so anyone know if there is a fix for mythtv 0.19 on gentoo? |
[01:15:00] | Beirdo: | xpis, OK, it's probably something silly |
[01:15:00] | xpis: | Beirdo: either that, or that's what happens when used on mythtv nupplevideo files generated from 0.19. |
[01:16:00] | kormoc: | thechris, myth 0.19 works perfectly fine on gentoo. Have you read and understand what I told you? |
[01:16:00] | Beirdo: | that's also a possibility... did you try it with more than one file? |
[01:16:00] | xpis: | yes |
[01:16:00] | kormoc: | sphing, hehe, glad I could help |
[01:16:00] | Beirdo: | OK, I'll try to fiddle with it over the next week. |
[01:16:00] | xpis: | but they are all recent svn/0.19 generated files |
[01:16:00] | sphing: | kormoc: I kidd... it happened again |
[01:17:00] | kormoc: | sphing, ooh? no other errors other then that? |
[01:17:00] | Beirdo: | you can put in a ticket on http://trac.beirdo.ca/projects/nuvtools/ so I don't miss details |
[01:17:00] | sphing: | same |
[01:18:00] | thechris: | kormoc: you said it was a myth issue |
[01:18:00] | kormoc: | thechris, I said it could be a myth issue or a ivtv issue. *if* you are sure myth is setup correctly, that would make it a ivtv issue. |
[01:19:00] | kormoc: | sphing, that's screwy... there's something the matter somewhere with your libs. |
[01:19:00] | kormoc: | sphing, it should be outputting which lib is bad |
[01:19:00] | thechris: | kormoc: both should be set up correctly |
[01:20:00] | kormoc: | sphing, running ldconfig as root doesn't output any errors. |
[01:20:00] | Led-Hed: | what is the ls option to display file size in MB? |
[01:20:00] | xpis: | Beirdo: I'm trying to compile on a knoppix cd on another computer now. (an i386 bit one) However, when I use the source code as is, it seems to include kernel headers. |
[01:20:00] | thechris: | i can cat /dev/video0 to a file. also, the settings in mythtv-setup are correct. |
[01:20:00] | kormoc: | thechris, if they are, maybe your card is broke then. Cause the tuner isn't working right. |
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[01:20:00] | sphing: | kormoc: nope no errors |
[01:20:00] | kormoc: | sphing, hrm... |
[01:20:00] | xpis: | Beirdo: (linux/videodev.h) |
[01:21:00] | Beirdo: | ummm |
[01:21:00] | thechris: | kormoc: i don't see how it just broke today... |
[01:21:00] | Beirdo: | from where? |
[01:21:00] | thechris: | seems unlikely |
[01:21:00] | dmachi: | thechris: also make sure you are loading the msp3400 driver from ivtv not the one from the kernel. |
[01:21:00] | xpis: | Beirdo: from libavformat (ffmpeg) |
[01:21:00] | Beirdo: | odd |
[01:21:00] | xpis: | grab.c |
[01:21:00] | kormoc: | thechris, from what you're describing, you're running out of other things it could be |
[01:21:00] | Beirdo: | there's no accounting for ffmpeg |
[01:21:00] | thechris: | dmachi: i haven't recompiled the kernel modules, jus the ivtv ones |
[01:22:00] | Beirdo: | you likely need kernel headers then, but how lame |
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[01:22:00] | thechris: | kormoc: well what should i set up in mythtv-setup. i have two cards correctly set up. 1 set of channels, and the channels bound to the correct inputs |
[01:22:00] | thechris: | not sure what else there is |
[01:22:00] | thechris: | oh, and the db stuff works right |
[01:22:00] | drdaz: | will mythstream compile against 0.19? |
[01:23:00] | kormoc: | thechris, you just need to make sure the tuners on the cards are correct, tis all. |
[01:23:00] | dmachi: | thechris: yes, but when you modprobe you'll get the kernel one before the ivtv if it still exists in /lib/modules (at least i did on my box) |
[01:23:00] | briand: | thechris: i seem to recall you said something about having myth pointing to /dev/video-0 ... is it actually called that, and not /dev/video0 ? |
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[01:24:00] | thechris: | ivtv is confirmed working |
[01:24:00] | sphing: | kormoc: should i remove the work directory and start from scratch |
[01:24:00] | rav3r: | ok, i tried an older driver nvidia-graphics-switch 7676, and it seems to work now |
[01:24:00] | scopeuk: | can any one tell me the backedn setup command |
[01:24:00] | scopeuk: | ive forgotten it |
[01:24:00] | thechris: | briand: yeah, myth looks at /dev/v4l/video0 — on the CLI i just use a link to that, called /dev/video0 |
[01:24:00] | drdaz: | mythtv-setup |
[01:24:00] | Kelerion: | mythtv-setup |
[01:24:00] | scopeuk: | thanks |
[01:25:00] | thechris: | dmachi: what i mean is that it was working before, and i haven't re-added modules from the kernel |
[01:25:00] | dmachi: | thechris: yeah if ivtv is working thats not the issue |
[01:25:00] | dmachi: | thechris: sorry, I only saw part of your problem so I can't offer any advice :P |
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[01:26:00] | mocker: | Beirdo: My work is going to send me to a week long asterisk bootcamp. :) |
[01:26:00] | Beirdo: | you gonna get yelled at by asterisk drill sarge? |
[01:26:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
[01:26:00] | ** briand just wishes he would get sent to an octothorpe boot camp. ** | |
[01:27:00] | Anduin: | thechris – ivtvctl -n looks normal? |
[01:27:00] | mocker: | Beirdo: pushups, the whole 9 yards. |
[01:27:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
[01:27:00] | Beirdo: | sounds like a blast |
[01:27:00] | mocker: | They have a DCAP test at the end that I can try for as well. |
[01:27:00] | mocker: | woo! |
[01:27:00] | ** mocker gets all giddy. ** | |
[01:28:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
[01:28:00] | ** Beirdo mocks mocker ** | |
[01:28:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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[01:28:00] | Beirdo: | couldn't resist |
[01:28:00] | _shad_: | Good evening. Any mythweb dev's around? |
[01:28:00] | briand: | of course, but he's away. |
[01:28:00] | _shad_: | :) |
[01:29:00] | _shad_: | Do any of you have mythweb 0.19 up and running and willing to confirm a bug I see on my install? |
[01:29:00] | drdaz: | whats the bug? |
[01:29:00] | briand: | i'm up and running with mythweb 0.19 |
[01:29:00] | thechris: | Anduin: it lists info |
[01:30:00] | thechris: | Does /etc/init.d/mythbackend actually do anything? |
[01:30:00] | briand: | thechris: yes |
[01:30:00] | thechris: | because i can run mythbackend and it stays open |
[01:30:00] | briand: | thechris: if you've told it to... |
[01:30:00] | thechris: | and running it from init.d doesn't seem to load anything |
[01:30:00] | briand: | thechris: look at the file. it contains startup settings |
[01:30:00] | _shad_: | under videos, when it follows the symlink, it also appends the path from the symlink: http://mythtv.topan.ca/data/video//data/Movie . . . p.Years.iso. Where /data/Movies is the /data/video symlink |
[01:31:00] | thechris: | briand: it does everything through start-stop daemon |
[01:31:00] | briand: | _shad_: combined frontend/backend, or separate? |
[01:32:00] | _shad_: | briand: combined, but /data is an nfs share to another server |
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[01:32:00] | _shad_: | and to note, music and recorded programs works fine |
[01:33:00] | Anduin: | thechris – but the name is right (in the listed info)? |
[01:33:00] | thechris: | hmm, it seems i had to remove nfslockfile |
[01:34:00] | rav3r: | im following http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:GIhAO4QuV . . . lnk&cd=1 and am not seeing any flash from the blaster through my digital camera's screen |
[01:34:00] | thechris: | now if only mythweb would work... |
[01:34:00] | scopeuk: | should i be able to use my mouse in mythtv-setup? |
[01:34:00] | thechris: | hmm. it seems the problem fixed itself. |
[01:35:00] | rav3r: | any other tutorials for getting ir blaster to work in fedora? |
[01:35:00] | briand: | scopeuk: no. |
[01:36:00] | MikeyMan: | OK everybody, I finally found the problem. |
[01:36:00] | briand: | MikeyMan: so, no more world hunger? |
[01:36:00] | scopeuk: | briand its jsut i cant select scan for channels without it |
[01:36:00] | MikeyMan: | I broke the cardnial rule of upgrading software — only upgrade one thing at a time. |
[01:36:00] | MikeyMan: | cardinal |
[01:36:00] | scopeuk: | any way im tired and bount to be making mistakes so im gonan go sleep now |
[01:37:00] | scopeuk: | MikeyMan welcome to my world |
[01:37:00] | MikeyMan: | briand: Haven't figured world hunger out yet |
[01:37:00] | briand: | scopeuk: use up/down arrow to navigate the highlight bar to it, then use right/left to select |
[01:37:00] | MikeyMan: | Anyway the mythtv upgrade actually went just fine, it was my upgrade of the nvidia driver that broke things. :( |
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[01:38:00] | scopeuk: | up and down dont go down that far for some reason it stops at the toggle box and i couldent define my chanels eitehr |
[01:38:00] | MikeyMan: | Had to revert back to the 6629 driver that I had working before. I am surprised that the 7676 driver caused issues, since the docs recommended it. |
[01:38:00] | scopeuk: | ill come talkagain when ive slept ill make more sense |
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[01:38:00] | briand: | MikeyMan: with me, it was getting lirc going again that slowed me down the most |
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[01:38:00] | sphing: | kormoc: anymore ideas |
[01:38:00] | sphing: | i'm stuck |
[01:39:00] | _shad_: | briand: is it possible that the data it is getting from the database is including the whole path of the video instead of just the video itself? |
[01:39:00] | rav3r: | can't get my ir blaster to work in fedora core 4, any advice is welcome |
[01:39:00] | LoppEar: | is there a different channel to go to for IVTV issues, or can someone help me out here? upgraded kernel, recompiled ivtv drivers (0.4.3), dmesg shows mostly success (finds the card and firmware), ivtvctl commands seem to work. |
[01:39:00] | LoppEar: | but /dev/video0 has no data coming over it. |
[01:40:00] | Kelerion: | using the the input? |
[01:41:00] | LoppEar: | oh, right, dmesg has these warnings: ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x44 not found for command 0x40045612! |
[01:41:00] | Kelerion: | LoppEar, you sure it's using the right input on the card? |
[01:41:00] | Kelerion: | when you try to capture from it? |
[01:42:00] | LoppEar: | Kelerion, ivtvctl -n shows 0 is the tuner, ivtvctl -p 0 succeeds, ivtv-tune -c 11 -d /dev/video0 seems to succeed. |
[01:42:00] | Kelerion: | what card is it? |
[01:43:00] | LoppEar: | Kelerion, PVR150. I can paste dmesg if that'll help. |
[01:43:00] | Kelerion: | have you tried a straight cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg? |
[01:44:00] | LoppEar: | Kelerion, right, that gives a 0-byte file. mythbackend gives up saying "could not read data for 15 seconds" or similar. |
[01:44:00] | Kelerion: | yup.. stop backend.. and try that command |
[01:45:00] | LoppEar: | right, i meant i've tried them separately. |
[01:45:00] | Kelerion: | ahh ok |
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[01:45:00] | Kelerion: | ok – post dmesg |
[01:45:00] | rav3r: | is there a way to see if my serial port is working? |
[01:45:00] | Kelerion: | to poastebin |
[01:45:00] | Kelerion: | pastebin |
[01:45:00] | xpis: | Beirdo: would you by chance have a nuv2avi 0.0.2 binary? (I'd rather not to have to set up a complete i386 linux system to compile it..) |
[01:46:00] | Beirdo: | hmmm |
[01:46:00] | Beirdo: | one moment |
[01:46:00] | LoppEar: | Kelerion, http://pastebin.ca/42108 |
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[01:46:00] | xpis: | Beirdo: even when I specify -m32, I still get errors compiling on my amd64. To make it compile in 64 bit, I have to use the ffmpeg included in your svn trunk. |
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[01:47:00] | xpis: | Compiling works fine on knoppix, except when it gets to the kernel headers. |
[01:47:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
[01:47:00] | LoppEar: | Kelerion, " ivtv-tune -c 11 -d /dev/video0 |
[01:47:00] | LoppEar: | /dev/video0: 199.250 MHz (Signal Detected) |
[01:47:00] | LoppEar: | " |
[01:48:00] | drdaz: | ohmahgawdz mythstream is ugly in ProjectGrayhem-wide D-: |
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[01:48:00] | LoppEar: | Kelerion, (sorry for multi-line), in every way I can tell it seems to be working, except for the key "producing output". :) |
[01:48:00] | Beirdo: | Just let me compile here... one moment |
[01:49:00] | Kelerion: | LoppEar, what dist is it? |
[01:49:00] | LoppEar: | Ubuntu Breezy, stock 2.6.12 kernel. |
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[01:50:00] | Kelerion: | LoppEar, when you issue a ivtv command.. do you get that 0x44 error in your dmesg each time? or just on loading the module? |
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[01:51:00] | LoppEar: | Kelerion, close to every time if not every. |
[01:52:00] | Kelerion: | only thing I can think of is your module options might be wrong |
[01:52:00] | Kelerion: | definately in NTSC-M for example? |
[01:53:00] | MattC: | Question for those people using mythwelcome/mythshutdown: Do you take all the nvram-wakeup stuff out of the backend settings and let mythshutdown handle it? |
[01:53:00] | Kelerion: | you could try #ivtv of course.. they might have more of an idea |
[01:53:00] | rav3r: | i feel i've hit a wall with this ir blaster, anyone have one working? |
[01:53:00] | LoppEar: | Kelerion, thanks for your help. I'll keep hunting. |
[01:54:00] | xpis: | Beirdo: with this thing being a beast to compile on some systems.. you may want to upload a static linked binary to your website so people can just have it work. And if you think compiling this would be a pain – I once compiled a *filesystem utility* statically so it could be used on a floppy disk. The only problem – it was linked with qt and made heavy uses of things such as qstrings. |
[01:54:00] | Kelerion: | LoppEar, what exactly do you have for your module options? |
[01:54:00] | Beirdo: | this would be frigging huge statically linked |
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[01:55:00] | LoppEar: | Kelerion, where would that be? as far as I know I have set no explicit options. |
[01:55:00] | HAIDEN: | can someone point me to a good howto for a frontend only (stream from PC) howto? |
[01:55:00] | kormoc: | sphing, figure out anything? |
[01:55:00] | sphing: | nope... i'm syncing my portage |
[01:55:00] | sphing: | ... not that i expect anything |
[01:56:00] | Calroth: | noob question time! how do i eject a cd/dvd when pressing the button on the drive doesn't work? |
[01:56:00] | sphing: | Calroth: unmount it |
[01:56:00] | Calroth: | i could've sworn the eject button on the drive worked in 0.18 |
[01:56:00] | Kelerion: | LoppEar, if you haven't set any then its unlikely to be that |
[01:56:00] | sphing: | kormoc: you got anymore ideas? |
[01:57:00] | kormoc: | sphing, not really, no. There's something fux0r3d on your box, just don't have any idea what it could be |
[01:57:00] | sphing: | yea, it emerged perfectly on another |
[01:58:00] | drdaz: | hmm mythweb is doing something odd here |
[01:58:00] | drdaz: | for some reason all news broadcasts are marked as 'This show was recorded' |
[01:59:00] | drdaz: | even ones in the future |
[01:59:00] | drdaz: | oO |
[01:59:00] | sphing: | i cant even figure out what library it is |
[02:00:00] | drdaz: | news isnt a recording schedule either... how odd |
[02:00:00] | briand: | hm.. there's a pool table waiting, with my name on it. laterz, all. |
[02:00:00] | drdaz: | l8rz |
[02:00:00] | Led-Hed: | Wow, that was the easiest Myth upgrade yet. ;) |
[02:00:00] | briand: | drdaz: I already submitted that bug |
[02:01:00] | drdaz: | :) ok |
[02:01:00] | briand: | drdaz: ...and I'd be working on a patch for it now, if I wasn't going out. ~~ |
[02:01:00] | drdaz: | :p np |
[02:01:00] | drdaz: | enjoy! |
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[02:03:00] | briand: | drdaz: it occurs because, sometime in the past, you've recorded that news program. |
[02:03:00] | drdaz: | hmm |
[02:04:00] | drdaz: | thats possible I guess.. |
[02:04:00] | drdaz: | but its on every channel oO |
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[02:04:00] | drdaz: | not a news watching guy myself tho.. I cant discount that it happened at some point tho.. |
[02:04:00] | drdaz: | can I check this in the database? |
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[02:06:00] | drdaz: | I'd guess the answer to that is 'yes'... I'm just wondering where to look |
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[02:06:00] | Anduin: | oldrecorded |
[02:06:00] | drdaz: | thx |
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[02:07:00] | drdaz: | ahh yes :) |
[02:07:00] | rav3r: | any thoughts on ir blaster? |
[02:08:00] | drdaz: | heh... deleted the entry and the tags are gone |
[02:09:00] | Weezey: | 0.19.. i can't access most of my recorded programs all of the studden. |
[02:11:00] | thechris: | man 0.19 messed up my db |
[02:11:00] | thechris: | really really bad |
[02:11:00] | thechris: | how do i fix it |
[02:11:00] | thechris: | ? |
[02:11:00] | j-rod: | restore your backup |
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[02:11:00] | j-rod: | :) |
[02:11:00] | drdaz: | lawl |
[02:11:00] | thechris: | hmm, failing that? |
[02:11:00] | Weezey: | what do you need a backup for? |
[02:11:00] | j-rod: | mysqlcheck |
[02:11:00] | mofu: | nuke the db, start from scratch |
[02:11:00] | thechris: | i only have "all programs" "daily show" and "colbert report" |
[02:11:00] | MattC: | anyone using mythwelcome? |
[02:12:00] | drdaz: | Weezey: restoring when the shit hits the fan |
[02:12:00] | thechris: | mofu: i want to watch some of the shows that exist in the db now |
[02:12:00] | Weezey: | you can always re-download the guide data, and don't the .nuvs have their infor stored? |
[02:12:00] | mofu: | 2bad |
[02:12:00] | thechris: | 0.19 kinda sucks... |
[02:12:00] | drdaz: | Weezey: settings are stored there too |
[02:12:00] | mofu: | fine here |
[02:12:00] | j-rod: | worksforme |
[02:12:00] | thechris: | so no one knows how to fix the db? |
[02:13:00] | thechris: | just that i can start over |
[02:13:00] | Weezey: | drdaz: ah, I don't have very much customized. |
[02:13:00] | drdaz: | still |
[02:13:00] | drdaz: | its all stored there :) |
[02:13:00] | thechris: | from a mythtv upgrade ate my db scenario |
[02:13:00] | Beirdo: | thechris, there is no "standard" way to fix a borked db |
[02:13:00] | Beirdo: | that's why you keep a backup before upgrading |
[02:13:00] | drdaz: | basically everything and anything myth related is stored there as far as I can tell |
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[02:15:00] | ** drdaz goes to bed ** | |
[02:15:00] | drdaz: | l8r all |
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[02:17:00] | thechris: | i hate this db crap |
[02:17:00] | mofu: | www.tivo.com |
[02:17:00] | thechris: | mythtv needs to not break shit in its own db... |
[02:17:00] | euphobot: | hello |
[02:17:00] | Beirdo: | it never has for me |
[02:17:00] | Weezey: | mofu: heh |
[02:18:00] | euphobot: | my .19 stops understanding keyboard entries after 30 min. whats that? |
[02:18:00] | Weezey: | euphobot: I believe they call that a bug. |
[02:18:00] | Weezey: | euphobot: are you artificially intelligent. |
[02:18:00] | euphobot: | you got it tooo? |
[02:19:00] | Weezey: | euphobot: since you're a robot, that is? |
[02:19:00] | euphobot: | no I made it myself |
[02:19:00] | Weezey: | I made myself once too |
[02:19:00] | thechris: | anyone (besides mofu who is on ignore) know what the mysql command to edit a db entry is? |
[02:19:00] | Weezey: | very anti-climactic. |
[02:20:00] | Weezey: | DROP DATABASE mythconverg; |
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[02:20:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
[02:20:00] | Beirdo: | not quite |
[02:20:00] | mofu: | lol |
[02:20:00] | Anduin: | thechris – If you are editing, use some tool like the mysql query browser, or that php mysql tool. |
[02:20:00] | Beirdo: | if you don't know SQL, good luck, thechris |
[02:20:00] | Anduin: | thechris – How did your db get messed up? |
[02:20:00] | thechris: | Anduin: i upgraded to 0.19 |
[02:21:00] | thechris: | it just messed up the db |
[02:21:00] | Beirdo: | I'd bet it's pebcak |
[02:21:00] | Weezey: | or an I.D.ten.T errror |
[02:22:00] | thechris: | guess this means i'll ignore Weezey, Beirdo who probably don't belong in a help channel... |
[02:22:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
[02:22:00] | Beirdo: | go ahead and ignore everyone |
[02:22:00] | Anduin: | thechris – I'm pretty sure he is the only reason this channel works. |
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[02:22:00] | mofu: | umm, given that Beirdo maintians the room FAQ . . . . |
[02:23:00] | Beirdo: | you didn't take a database dump before upgrading, how can we possibly fix it for you not knowing any details |
[02:23:00] | mchou: | ok, need some help. On a generic kernel, when you do a "make rpm" it makes a i386 kernel every time for me. How do you specify i686? |
[02:23:00] | Beirdo: | and the upgrade worked flawlessly for many. |
[02:23:00] | Anduin: | thechris – The upgrade, at least what myth did, probably didn't break your DB (it didn't break mine, and the ML isn't flooded) |
[02:23:00] | thechris: | i just need to find why the daily show gets listed and not anything else |
[02:23:00] | scottder: | mysqldump is your friend |
[02:24:00] | mofu: | mchou: you changed options in make menuconfig (or equivalent) |
[02:24:00] | thechris: | Anduin: yeah, i know. mysql lists all the shows that had existed. mythtv just doens't know about them... |
[02:24:00] | mchou: | mofu: the options there were changed |
[02:25:00] | mchou: | mofu: "make rpm" somehow creates some sort of default config every time |
[02:25:00] | Anduin: | thechris – You don't have some weird filter on do you? |
[02:25:00] | mofu: | mchou: it might just be a labeling thing then . . . within rpm, Debian has similar w/ make kpkg . . . |
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[02:26:00] | euphobot_: | weezey: do you have same bug |
[02:26:00] | mofu: | mchou: in other words, trust your .config file, not the rpm label |
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[02:27:00] | mchou: | mofu: heh, is there a way to find out what type of kernel (i386 vs. i686) it is w/o actually running it? |
[02:27:00] | thechris: | Anduin: not that i know of. unless its a new default in 0.19 |
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[02:29:00] | mofu: | mchou: not sure . . . |
[02:29:00] | Anduin: | thechris – him m and check |
[02:29:00] | Anduin: | er hit |
[02:29:00] | Weezey: | euphobot: nope, I've got other problems. |
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[02:30:00] | thechris: | Anduin: ? "m". in the fronend, backend, mysql, console? |
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[02:30:00] | Anduin: | thechris – frontend, program list |
[02:33:00] | thechris: | Anduin: thank you. for some reason mythfrontend set itself to look for "talk" groups at the very bottom of the list. |
[02:33:00] | thechris: | either the upgrade messed that up, or my roomate |
[02:33:00] | Juski: | mornin |
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[02:38:00] | Kelerion: | kormoc, well.. enemy territory seems to work fine.. so I think I am done for now :) |
[02:39:00] | kormoc: | :) |
[02:39:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
[02:39:00] | Kelerion: | damn thats a quick game |
[02:39:00] | Beirdo: | you have it setup from mythgame so you can shoot Nazis on the TV? |
[02:39:00] | Kelerion: | I got killed twice in 30 seconds! lol |
[02:40:00] | Kelerion: | nah.. am trying to get my pc working properly :) |
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[02:40:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
[02:40:00] | Kelerion: | I couldn't play that game on a tv with a remote! I got blasted with a keyboard and mouse! lol |
[02:40:00] | Beirdo: | I get killed all the time on that game |
[02:40:00] | fatdave: | hey guys :) briand i figured out my sound problem |
[02:40:00] | fatdave: | now I have another question |
[02:41:00] | Kelerion: | I can play chess.. and connect 4.. and thats my limit when it comes to games |
[02:41:00] | fatdave: | i just installed mythtv on a new box. I saved some of the nuv recordings from the old machine and have transfered them to the new. it just dawned on me that it uses mysql to store the names and such |
[02:42:00] | ** Calroth set up enemy territory on the tv on the myth box ** | |
[02:42:00] | fatdave: | i didn't back up my old database |
[02:42:00] | Juski: | god this is gonna be some hangover tomorrow :-D |
[02:42:00] | Calroth: | you watch people shoot pixels in the far distance with amazing accuracy |
[02:42:00] | Kelerion: | I used to play doom all the time... but then quake came along and that was just too big and complicated.... so I give in... lol |
[02:42:00] | fatdave: | can i somehow populate the new database with these recordings? |
[02:42:00] | Calroth: | it's a revelation for someone who also played xbox halo |
[02:42:00] | Juski: | night all |
[02:42:00] | Kelerion: | Juski, am working on the same thing :P |
[02:42:00] | Juski: | fyi halo was too easy |
[02:42:00] | Juski: | and the storyline was crap anyway |
[02:42:00] | Juski: | :-) |
[02:43:00] | Kelerion: | never played it |
[02:43:00] | Juski: | kelerion: kill loads of baddies.. become a 'baddie' |
[02:43:00] | Juski: | kill some more |
[02:43:00] | Kelerion: | I *did* like Need for Speed... now that was a good game.. and the new Most Wanted... thats *nice* |
[02:43:00] | Juski: | finish, in linear fashion.. tada |
[02:43:00] | Juski: | anyway... night alll Zzzzz |
[02:44:00] | Kelerion: | part-timer :P |
[02:44:00] | Anduin: | Calroth – in contrib there is a perl script myth.rebuilddatabase.pl, it will be annoying. |
[02:44:00] | squish102: | Kelerion, check out the free trackmania nations |
[02:44:00] | Juski: | part timer? I'll have you know I've sunk quite a few Becks & rather a lot of JD tonight |
[02:44:00] | Juski: | got thru £60 worth, even in mancs that's a fair bit |
[02:44:00] | Kelerion: | but it's still early! lol |
[02:44:00] | Kelerion: | okies.. thats not too bad .. lol |
[02:45:00] | Juski: | quarter to 3... when you're 34 years young, fulll of beer and with a... erm.. nice wife who's waiting for you.. (ahem) |
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[02:45:00] | Juski: | night |
[02:45:00] | Kelerion: | am on my 12th can of carlsberg.. so am happy at the moment.. lol |
[02:45:00] | ** Kelerion laughs ** | |
[02:45:00] | squish102: | http://www.trackmanianations.com/indexUk.php |
[02:45:00] | Kelerion: | go get it tiger! lol |
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[02:46:00] | Kelerion: | squish102, that a Most Wanted thing? |
[02:46:00] | squish102: | car game |
[02:46:00] | Kelerion: | nah.. it's a F1 game! |
[02:47:00] | squish102: | stunts, network race |
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[02:47:00] | squish102: | u more in the air than anything else |
[02:47:00] | Kelerion: | lol |
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[02:47:00] | squish102: | it is good fun racing game, and it is free, and u race for your country ;) |
[02:48:00] | Kelerion: | Juski, ? you still here? she's a-waiting for ya! |
[02:49:00] | Kelerion: | I must be doing something wrong... I'm 31 with a nice wife.. and she's gone to bed already... but she's asleep! |
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[02:50:00] | Beirdo: | so go wake her up |
[02:50:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
[02:50:00] | Kelerion: | lol |
[02:50:00] | Beirdo: | ya wuss |
[02:50:00] | Kelerion: | she's got work in 4 hours... she wouldn't be impressed |
[02:50:00] | Beirdo: | fuck, gmail... work! |
[02:51:00] | scottder: | gmail always works! :) |
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[02:51:00] | Beirdo: | right now it won't send |
[02:51:00] | Beirdo: | or save a draft |
[02:52:00] | Kelerion: | under ubuntu... after a "make install" of svn... I see it doing an "ldconfig".. but it doesn't actually add anything to /etc/ld.so.conf... I have to add it manually |
[02:52:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
[02:52:00] | Beirdo: | it shouldn't add anything |
[02:53:00] | Beirdo: | that would border on insanity |
[02:53:00] | Kelerion: | it's presuming I should have /usr/local/lib already? |
[02:53:00] | Beirdo: | if you don't, add it |
[02:54:00] | Beirdo: | I wouldn't want a make install to go messing with /etc/ld.so.conf |
[02:54:00] | Kelerion: | I do -. but I figured it would check if it was already there.. and if it wasn't add it |
[02:54:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
[02:55:00] | Beirdo: | be nice if it would TELL you to go add it |
[02:55:00] | Beirdo: | but program installs shouldn't presume to hack that for ya |
[02:55:00] | Kelerion: | true |
[02:55:00] | Kelerion: | there's been a protocol jump...crap |
[02:56:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
[02:56:00] | Beirdo: | that does happen on occasion |
[02:56:00] | Kelerion: | yeah yeah.. I just wasn't expecting it... lol |
[02:56:00] | rav3r: | would rpm -qa lirc* return inaccurate information if i install stuff with yum? |
[02:57:00] | Kelerion: | protocol changes mean I have to "make clean" right? |
[02:59:00] | sphing: | anyone had a problem compiling libmythui? |
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[03:00:00] | Kelerion: | I did notice today that svn means I can't watch what I'm recording anymore.. it gets all jumpy... I wonder if this'll fit that... always worked fine in the past |
[03:01:00] | Kelerion: | what I'm *currently* recording I mean |
[03:01:00] | MattC: | exit |
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[03:01:00] | rav3r: | why does rpm -qa lirc* return less then i know i have installed? |
[03:02:00] | Kelerion: | it shouldn't... but you could try a rpm db rebuild |
[03:02:00] | Kelerion: | if your *sure* |
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[03:02:00] | mchou: | hey, is there a way to compile mythplugins short of installing mythtv? |
[03:02:00] | rav3r: | everythihg i try to add that isn't listed, yum says nothing to do |
[03:03:00] | mchou: | I'm not ready to upgrade but would like to have everything compiled |
[03:03:00] | Anduin: | mchou – You need the stuff the main myth build produces (though with some work you can install to some other directory) |
[03:04:00] | mchou: | Anduin: I already have myth 0.19 compiled, just not installed |
[03:04:00] | Anduin: | mchou – Yes, but the plugins depends on that install for headers and libs. |
[03:04:00] | mchou: | Anduin: can you direct the link to another directory? |
[03:05:00] | Kelerion: | you want to use the newer plugins with the older myth? |
[03:05:00] | mchou: | Kelerion: no. |
[03:05:00] | Kelerion: | oh |
[03:05:00] | Anduin: | mchou – You can adjust INSTALL_DIR, though I do have to wonder why the plugins build would take so long you'd need to do it now. |
[03:05:00] | mchou: | Anduin: I want to make sure I have all deps :) |
[03:06:00] | mchou: | all the lib-devel, etc. |
[03:06:00] | Kelerion: | apt-get build-deps mythtv |
[03:06:00] | Kelerion: | works for me |
[03:10:00] | Beirdo: | that worked for me too. |
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[03:10:00] | quacker: | o |
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[03:11:00] | Beirdo: | dumbass |
[03:11:00] | ** Kelerion chuckles ** | |
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[03:13:00] | Beirdo: | Oooh boy. |
[03:13:00] | Beirdo: | that ibuprofen definitely works |
[03:13:00] | Beirdo: | it's wearing off, time for more drugs |
[03:13:00] | Kelerion: | lol |
[03:14:00] | Kelerion: | I miss the days when simple ibuprofen worked for me.. lol |
[03:14:00] | Anduin: | Then you'll never know if it really hurts. |
[03:14:00] | Kelerion: | I think he already knows it does.. |
[03:14:00] | xpis: | Beirdo: Yep, it wears off too quickly in the first few days. |
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[03:15:00] | Kelerion: | quacker, lost? |
[03:15:00] | quacker: | Kelerion, pardon me? |
[03:16:00] | Kelerion: | you entered.. said "o".. left... then came back |
[03:17:00] | xpis: | Beirdo: In the first two days I alternated acetaminophen and ibuprofen as to sleep through the night. |
[03:18:00] | Kelerion: | thats Tylenol isn't it? |
[03:18:00] | xpis: | Beirdo: of course, be careful not to take both too close together. I believe I did one or the other every 3 hours for the first two nights. |
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[03:18:00] | xpis: | Beirdo: and of course, don't do that frequency during the day, and always take acetaminophen with food. |
[03:19:00] | xpis: | Kelerion: acetaminophen=paracetamol=Tylenol |
[03:19:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
[03:19:00] | xpis: | The last thing you want is an ulcer due to tylenol on an empty stomach. |
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[03:19:00] | Beirdo: | I took the last one... 5h ago |
[03:20:00] | ** Beirdo heats up some butternut squash soup ** | |
[03:20:00] | PaulWay: | So is there any news on a non-atrpms Fedora Core package for MythTV? |
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[03:20:00] | xpis: | PaulWay: nope. |
[03:20:00] | Kelerion: | I have to take morphine daily.. it's a killer when your out and you you need something and the chemist doesn't have anything that works they can sell you over the counter |
[03:20:00] | PaulWay: | It's still just atrpms and their weirdness? Curse. |
[03:20:00] | Beirdo: | this is motrin at 600mg I'm on now |
[03:21:00] | xpis: | PaulWay: atrpms packages, of course, have major dependency problems. |
[03:21:00] | Beirdo: | (aka ibuprofen) |
[03:21:00] | xpis: | PaulWay: I'd suggest using another distro or compiling from source. |
[03:21:00] | Beirdo: | I have Tylenol 3 for when it gets outta hand |
[03:21:00] | PaulWay: | I've already endured the napalming you get when you mention atrpms in #fedora... :-) |
[03:21:00] | PaulWay: | Beirdo: that's a hell of a hangover :-) |
[03:21:00] | Beirdo: | heh. |
[03:22:00] | PaulWay: | This sounds like serious migraines. Yes? |
[03:22:00] | xpis: | PaulWay: the best way to do mythtv on fedora is to simply compile it. This avoids patent problems as well. |
[03:22:00] | Beirdo: | wisdom teeth pulled today |
[03:22:00] | PaulWay: | patent problems? |
[03:22:00] | xpis: | PaulWay: mpeg4 and mp3 are patented. |
[03:22:00] | PaulWay: | Ah, yes, been through that. |
[03:22:00] | Beirdo: | and MPEG2 and just about everything else |
[03:22:00] | PaulWay: | How does it avoid those patents? |
[03:22:00] | xpis: | PaulWay: atrpms packages have unlicensed binaries of said formats. |
[03:23:00] | xpis: | Beirdo: but mpeg2 is done in licensed hardware. |
[03:23:00] | Beirdo: | not the playback |
[03:23:00] | PaulWay: | I'm sort of vaguely surprised that MythTV hasn't gone to Theora. |
[03:23:00] | Beirdo: | it sux |
[03:23:00] | mchou: | who the hell uses theora? |
[03:23:00] | PaulWay: | Is the svn trunk head now safe to use? |
[03:24:00] | xpis: | PaulWay: use mencoder to encode live TV to theora. See how many skipped frames you get due to lack of processor ability. |
[03:24:00] | Kelerion: | am compiling it as we speak |
[03:24:00] | PaulWay: | mchou: people who want to avoid patent issues, apparently. |
[03:24:00] | xpis: | PaulWay: I'd use 0.19 |
[03:24:00] | xpis: | PaulWay: (or the svn version that is 0.19) |
[03:24:00] | PaulWay: | xpis: Well, that's more of a 'we haven't put enough time in optimising it' |
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[03:24:00] | PaulWay: | problem. |
[03:24:00] | PaulWay: | xpis: is there a tag for it in svn? |
[03:25:00] | xpis: | PaulWay: yes, but I don't know the version number off the top of my head. |
[03:25:00] | PaulWay: | Just that I've got a svn tree already downloaded and it's easier to do an upgrade on it than to download a new source package in toto. |
[03:25:00] | xpis: | Let me find it. |
[03:25:00] | PaulWay: | ta very muchly. |
[03:25:00] | Anduin: | There is a release tag. |
[03:26:00] | PaulWay: | That'd do. Being still relatively new to svn, though, how do I use it? |
[03:26:00] | xpis: | PaulWay: 8926 |
[03:27:00] | PaulWay: | Ta, xpis |
[03:27:00] | xpis: | PaulWay: (is the actual version number of the version that was split to 0.19) |
[03:29:00] | PaulWay: | So was there rejoicing in the streets when the live TV update was finished? |
[03:29:00] | xpis: | Beirdo: I'd take the ibuprofen right before going to bed, as to have the maximum chance of being able to sleep. |
[03:30:00] | PaulWay: | I'd second that, even if it means you've slightly squeezed two doses together before bed. |
[03:30:00] | Kelerion: | tons of people asking "why is my livetv being recorded??? it's taking up all my HD space" is more like it |
[03:30:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
[03:30:00] | xpis: | Beirdo: and take the maximal dose before bed too. |
[03:30:00] | mchou: | hit, livetv is always recorded :) |
[03:30:00] | PaulWay: | It was never an issue for me and my partner, because we so rarely watch live TV. |
[03:30:00] | mchou: | shit* |
[03:31:00] | PaulWay: | It just expires first, yes? |
[03:31:00] | mchou: | yup |
[03:31:00] | PaulWay: | Or does it expire sooner than when it runs out of disk space? |
[03:31:00] | PaulWay: | I know someone on the dev list was wanting a separate low water mark for deleting live tv recordings. |
[03:31:00] | Kelerion: | I don't see any issue with it.. if you have a dedicated myth box and it exprires those records first... *and* you can set a "minimal free space" option... I don't see a problem |
[03:31:00] | xpis: | Beirdo: I believe I took 400mg (2 low-dose pills). |
[03:32:00] | Beirdo: | I have 600mg (prescribed), 300mg (OTC) and I think 200mg (OTC) |
[03:32:00] | Beirdo: | I might just take a Tylenol 3 just before bed |
[03:33:00] | Kelerion: | well folks.. it's 3:30am here.. so am heading to bed... might wake up the wife if I'm feeling brave |
[03:33:00] | Kelerion is now known as Kel-kippin | |
[03:33:00] | Kel-kippin: | g'night all! |
[03:35:00] | xpis: | Beirdo: I'd stay away from 600mg: the maximal daily dose is 1200mg (6 low-dose pills) a day. More comfort is gained from 400x3 than 600x2. |
[03:35:00] | Beirdo: | nah |
[03:35:00] | Beirdo: | I was told 600mg * 4 |
[03:36:00] | Beirdo: | note: I'm a large person |
[03:36:00] | xpis: | that's a lot.. but if your doctor told you to, then go for it. |
[03:37:00] | Beirdo: | that's what I was told |
[03:37:00] | PaulWay: | Saying 'knock yourself out' would be only too appropriate. |
[03:37:00] | sphing: | lol |
[03:37:00] | xpis: | Well, I'm sure the doctor took your size into account with the amount of pain you would have.. so go ahead. |
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[03:41:00] | xpis: | I was given some sort of prescription pain killer, but I never used it. Standard OTC pain killers were sufficient. |
[03:42:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
[03:42:00] | Beirdo: | well, I get migraines at times |
[03:43:00] | Beirdo: | having more powerful painkillers around is good |
[03:43:00] | sphing: | anyone had a problem emerging .19? |
[03:46:00] | xpis: | sphing: What error are you having? (that way, some one who knows the solution to your problem can tell you) |
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[03:51:00] | Beirdo: | When under the care of a physician, the maximum dose of ibuprofen is 3.2 g daily. Otherwise, the maximum dose is 1.2 g daily. |
[03:52:00] | Beirdo: | from http://www.medicinenet.com/ibuprofen/article.htm |
[03:52:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
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[03:53:00] | jack2433: | I am trying to setup my mythtv box and have tired us-cable, us-cable-hrc, us-bcast but none of them work. I am in Canada. What options do I have? |
[03:53:00] | Beirdo: | US-cable |
[03:54:00] | Beirdo: | or US-bcast |
[03:54:00] | Beirdo: | we use the same channels in Canada as the US |
[03:54:00] | jack2433: | So if either of those work then what? |
[03:54:00] | PaulWay: | seanmccann != jack2433? |
[03:55:00] | jack2433: | jack is my middle nme |
[03:55:00] | PaulWay: | Just curious why the name change. |
[03:55:00] | Beirdo: | jack2433, then fix your tuner setup |
[03:56:00] | jack2433: | in mythtv-setup? |
[03:56:00] | jack2433: | I don't like having my full name on IRC |
[03:56:00] | Beirdo: | make sure you can use non-myth software first |
[03:57:00] | jack2433: | is there one other than xawtv? |
[03:57:00] | Beirdo: | like xawtv or tvtime for v4l cards, cat or mplayer for pvr250, etc |
[03:57:00] | xpis: | Beirdo: Is the recorded show data (date, channel, time, discription, etc) stored in the nupplevideo file, or only in the mysql database? |
[03:57:00] | Beirdo: | only in the database |
[03:59:00] | xpis: | Beirdo: hm.. would you consider having nuv2avi connect to the mysql database to get this information to store it as avi metadata? |
[04:00:00] | bitbang: | so i'm trying to create bootdisk image, but i get an error saying msp3400-ivtv module not found |
[04:00:00] | bitbang: | i have msp3400, but not msp3400-ivtv... where do i get this? |
[04:00:00] | Beirdo: | nah |
[04:00:00] | Beirdo: | I don't want to tie it to mysql at all |
[04:01:00] | Beirdo: | maybe make another one to tag the files after |
[04:01:00] | Beirdo: | but I want that to be a general convertor, can be run on a machine with JUST the nuv file |
[04:02:00] | xpis: | I guess it could be a separate program.. could nuv2avi put the original name of the nuv file in the metadata then, for use by such a program? |
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[04:02:00] | Beirdo: | why bother? |
[04:03:00] | Beirdo: | and I'm not sure that you can easily use metadata anyways |
[04:03:00] | Beirdo: | put in a ticket with your ideas (on http://trac.beirdo.ca/projects/nuvtools/ |
[04:03:00] | Beirdo: | I'll look into it later |
[04:04:00] | xpis: | ok. I'll try to find out how exactly avi metadata works, and whether ffmpeg can deal with it. |
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[04:05:00] | xpis: | AVI is not exactly what you would call a "standard" |
[04:09:00] | xpis: | I can't find any standard for embedding metadata in an AVI file. |
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[04:15:00] | xpis: | The only "metadata", per say, is the stream name. So, all relavant data would have to go in the name of the clip. |
[04:16:00] | xpis: | There is a block specifically for metadata, but it is reserved for use by codecs. So, putting data in there might mess up divx devices. |
[04:18:00] | xpis: | I guess the appropriate way to do this, then, would be to rename the files to proper names, and generate an index file with the entire entry from the recorded table. |
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[04:34:00] | bitbang: | what can i do to prevent ivtv-fb from freezing the console? |
[04:35:00] | jack2433: | I tested my card with tvtime and the television did not show up but I COULD get the composite in to work with tvtime. This means that my card is installed properly. How can I get my cable to work. Or even get the composite in mythtv just to see that the card works with myth |
[04:35:00] | bitbang: | everytime by comp boots it grabs the frambuffer (i'm guessing) and prevents any typing |
[04:37:00] | kristok: | does one have to do tricks to get xine installed on fc4/x86_64? |
[04:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | anybody familar with ubuntu and mythfrontend? |
[04:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am trying to figure out why I cannot authenticate and get a frontend to work? all my frontends work fine I am just trying to get it to work on this computer I have qt3 mysql libs installed |
[04:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am kinda confused |
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[04:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I cant really think of anything that would be missing so if anybody has any ideas on how to get around these problems be sure to let me know cause I cant seem to get around it and get mythfrontend working on ubuntu |
[04:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it seems just flat out borken to me |
[04:40:00] | kormoc: | what's it spit out? |
[04:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | that qmysql is unable to authenticate please install another version or something close to that |
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[04:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | the computer is upstairs kormoc haha |
[04:41:00] | kormoc: | welp, we do need the exact message |
[04:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I can run upstairs and check if you need it precicely |
[04:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc: drat ok time to go upstairs :/ |
[04:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | brb |
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[04:44:00] | SlicerDicer--: | alright kormoc hehe |
[04:44:00] | SlicerDicer--: | QMYSQL3: Unable to connect |
[04:44:00] | SlicerDicer--: | Database error was: |
[04:44:00] | SlicerDicer--: | Client does not support authentication protocol requested by server; consider upgrading MySQL client |
[04:44:00] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
[04:44:00] | SlicerDicer--: | indeed |
[04:44:00] | SlicerDicer--: | I am confused as well |
[04:44:00] | kormoc: | SlicerDicer-, it doesn't have the ssl use flag set |
[04:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | is that what the problem would be? |
[04:45:00] | kormoc: | likely |
[04:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | sorry it kills me to type upstairs haha |
[04:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | everything is on the floor |
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[04:45:00] | kormoc: | if your others do, and this one doesn't |
[04:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah |
[04:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | they all work |
[04:45:00] | euphobot_: | why does .19 take 30 secs to start tv watch? |
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[04:46:00] | kormoc: | euphobot_, check the output from the frontend |
[04:47:00] | euphobot_: | yeah it has lots of trouble — mostly problems in mpeg2video |
[04:47:00] | euphobot_: | eg [mpeg2video @ 0x3a8bce4]invalid cbp at 14 29 |
[04:47:00] | euphobot_: | [mpeg2video @ 0x3a8bce4]ac-tex damaged at 28 12 |
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[04:48:00] | euphobot_: | and |
[04:48:00] | euphobot_: | 2006-02–18 15:21:58.240 NVP: Prebuffer wait timed out 10 times. |
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[04:49:00] | kormoc: | euphobot, somethings going wrong there |
[04:50:00] | euphobot_: | ya think? |
[04:50:00] | kormoc: | euphobot, well, it's not a 0.19 issue, as it's not doing it with a lot of people's |
[04:51:00] | euphobot_: | the real problem is in interpreting the cryptic messages |
[04:51:00] | kormoc: | the first one is that the mpeg2 video stream is corrupt |
[04:51:00] | kormoc: | the second one should have another error above it saying what's up |
[04:52:00] | euphobot_: | 2006-02–18 15:21:34.957 NVP: Disabling Audio, params(-1,-1,-1) |
[04:52:00] | euphobot_: | 2006-02–18 15:21:34.963 NVP: Disabling Audio, params(0,-1,-1) |
[04:52:00] | euphobot_: | 2006-02–18 15:21:35.107 NVP: Prebuffer wait timed out 10 times. |
[04:52:00] | euphobot_: | 2006-02–18 15:21:37.564 NVP: prebuffering pause |
[04:52:00] | euphobot_: | 2006-02–18 15:21:39.051 NVP: Prebuffer wait timed out 10 times. |
[04:52:00] | euphobot_: | 0: start_time: 5394.277 duration: 0.264 |
[04:53:00] | euphobot_: | 1: start_time: 5394.247 duration: 0.265 |
[04:53:00] | euphobot_: | stream: start_time: 59936.076 duration: 3.267 bitrate=4002 kb/s |
[04:53:00] | euphobot_: | 2006-02–18 15:21:42.432 NVP: Prebuffer wait timed out 10 times. |
[04:53:00] | ** Beirdo slaps euphobot with pastebin.ca ** | |
[04:53:00] | euphobot_: | Not something transparent is it? |
[04:54:00] | euphobot_: | sorry, I didn't think that was much paste |
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[04:59:00] | euphobot_: | this is a 2.8 ghz cpu with nvidia 6600. I dont think it should be having sync problems especially on startup |
[04:59:00] | kormoc: | euphobot, what's your tv tuner |
[05:00:00] | euphobot_: | what is the optimum video setup? shouldn't it be standard? |
[05:00:00] | euphobot_: | pchdtv using cx88-dvb on FC4 |
[05:01:00] | kormoc: | maybe your driver is foobar. |
[05:01:00] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
[05:02:00] | euphobot_: | set it up in myth as dvb and it comes back with the oren driver... |
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[05:04:00] | j-rod: | ah, hdtv cards... my new ones are finally both playing nice |
[05:04:00] | j-rod: | what a pita mapping all this C83#7 crap to actual channels... |
[05:04:00] | mchou: | j-rod: what did you get for new ones |
[05:05:00] | j-rod: | I got an AirStar2 HD5000 and a DViCO FusionHDTV5 Lite |
[05:05:00] | j-rod: | went for some variety |
[05:05:00] | j-rod: | neither one needs a firmware file, which is nice |
[05:05:00] | mchou: | j-rod: did they have problems getting along or ? |
[05:05:00] | j-rod: | both Just Work w/the in-kernel drivers (latest FC4 and 5 kernels) |
[05:06:00] | j-rod: | just took a bit to get all the channels straightened out |
[05:06:00] | j-rod: | oh, and the HD5000 led to lockups in my master backend (all 64-bit PCI slots, may have something to do w/it, I dunno) |
[05:06:00] | j-rod: | works fine in two other machines though |
[05:06:00] | mchou: | j-rod: hmm?? I thought in 0.19 it got smart about that |
[05:06:00] | j-rod: | ? |
[05:06:00] | mchou: | the channel bit, that is |
[05:07:00] | j-rod: | oh, that |
[05:07:00] | j-rod: | not for cable |
[05:07:00] | j-rod: | at least, not with mine |
[05:07:00] | j-rod: | it was nails on 2 channels |
[05:07:00] | mchou: | j-rod: where did you get the fusion? |
[05:07:00] | j-rod: | the other 253, I wind up with channel numbers like C104#3 |
[05:07:00] | j-rod: | cyberestore |
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[05:07:00] | j-rod: | ordered both from there |
[05:08:00] | mchou: | j-rod: your fusin come with svid in exposed? |
[05:08:00] | mchou: | fusion* |
[05:08:00] | j-rod: | nope |
[05:09:00] | j-rod: | its a low-profile card too |
[05:09:00] | j-rod: | I've never had need for an svid input anywho |
[05:09:00] | mchou: | does it even have the svid in on board? |
[05:09:00] | j-rod: | both cards have only a single coax tuner on the back |
[05:09:00] | j-rod: | dunno |
[05:10:00] | j-rod: | didn't care to look. :) |
[05:10:00] | mchou: | j-rod: uname -r on your kernel? |
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[05:12:00] | j-rod: | 2.6.15–1.1955_FC5 (x86_64) |
[05:12:00] | j-rod: | they both work w/2.6.15–1.1821_FC4 (i686) as well |
[05:13:00] | j-rod: | (and might w/slightly earlier, I dunno) |
[05:13:00] | mchou: | ok, so 2.6.15 doesnt need patching for dvb |
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[05:15:00] | j-rod: | nope, no patches whatsoever |
[05:15:00] | j-rod: | ugh, Jesse keeps breaking my box... |
[05:15:00] | ** j-rod has a friend Jesse who works at Red Hat, which contributed heavily to the fact j-rod is going to work for Red Hat too ** | |
[05:16:00] | j-rod: | rpm is wonky on FC5 |
[05:16:00] | j-rod: | fairly stable though, all things considered (weekly rebuilds w/updated gcc 4.1 snaps) |
[05:17:00] | znoG: | FC5 hey.. |
[05:17:00] | mchou: | j-rod: werent you working for some linux clustering co in Utah? |
[05:17:00] | j-rod: | yup |
[05:17:00] | j-rod: | my last day is the end of this month |
[05:18:00] | mchou: | lol, decided to switch jobs? :) |
[05:18:00] | j-rod: | then I start at Red Hat. :) |
[05:18:00] | mchou: | short-timer :) |
[05:18:00] | j-rod: | Probably wouldn't have jumped ship for any other company (unless it was a phat raise) |
[05:18:00] | j-rod: | hell yeah |
[05:18:00] | j-rod: | gotta move cross-country too |
[05:18:00] | mchou: | NC? |
[05:18:00] | j-rod: | gonna be fun, spent all day today working on fixing up the house |
[05:19:00] | j-rod: | AM |
[05:19:00] | j-rod: | MA |
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[05:19:00] | mchou: | brhhhh:0 |
[05:19:00] | mchou: | you gonna freeze |
[05:19:00] | j-rod: | Westford, MA area — most of engineering moved up there a while ago |
[05:19:00] | j-rod: | yeah |
[05:19:00] | j-rod: | slight change of pace from Seattle |
[05:20:00] | j-rod: | time to go rearrange some more furniture... |
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[05:27:00] | ** gloin screams and pulls out hair ** | |
[05:28:00] | gloin: | so I've got this bt878 card |
[05:28:00] | gloin: | worked fine in SuSE |
[05:28:00] | gloin: | but I don't |
[05:28:00] | gloin: | so I installed ubuntu |
[05:28:00] | gloin: | and get stuff like this when I try to use the tv tuner: |
[05:28:00] | gloin: | Feb 18 20:47:06 localhost kernel: [ 135.588191] bttv0: OCERR @ 3723f014,bits: HSYNC OFLOW RISCI* FDSR OCERR* |
[05:29:00] | gloin: | testing with stuff like tvtime shows "no signal" |
[05:29:00] | mchou: | yup, well known problem |
[05:29:00] | gloin: | ok |
[05:29:00] | gloin: | how to debug? |
[05:29:00] | gloin: | lspci would indicate that the card is recognized |
[05:29:00] | mchou: | dont bother debugging |
[05:29:00] | gloin: | 0000:01:0a.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11) |
[05:29:00] | gloin: | what you mean don't bother? |
[05:29:00] | mchou: | revert to a kernel that works |
[05:29:00] | gloin: | ? |
[05:30:00] | gloin: | it's that level eh? |
[05:30:00] | gloin: | what was the last-good kernel version then? |
[05:30:00] | gloin: | or is it a packager's error? |
[05:30:00] | mchou: | what other level did you have in mind? |
[05:30:00] | gloin: | well |
[05:30:00] | gloin: | I don't knowo |
[05:30:00] | gloin: | but I certainly was hoping for something that didn't involve compiling a kernel |
[05:31:00] | mchou: | nobody said you had to compile |
[05:31:00] | gloin: | ergh |
[05:31:00] | gloin: | ok |
[05:31:00] | gloin: | this is true |
[05:31:00] | gloin: | brb |
[05:31:00] | mchou: | just said us a kernel that works |
[05:31:00] | gloin: | yeah |
[05:31:00] | mchou: | use* |
[05:31:00] | gloin: | but I have no idea whether ubuntu has a kernel that works or not |
[05:31:00] | gloin: | in breezy, do you know which kernel I want? |
[05:31:00] | mchou: | nope. no idea |
[05:32:00] | gloin: | k |
[05:32:00] | ** gloin will try the one other version already on this box ** | |
[05:36:00] | gloin: | looks like that was it |
[05:36:00] | gloin: | jeez |
[05:36:00] | ** gloin files a bugreport with the maintainer ** | |
[05:37:00] | gloin: | mchou: thanks |
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[05:44:00] | o_cee: | suggestions for a good small vm for ubuntu? running ratpoison on my frontend on gentoo, works pretty well |
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[05:58:00] | xpis: | wm, you mean? I use icewm. |
[05:58:00] | xpis: | (vm = virtual machine, wm = window manager) |
[05:58:00] | xpis: | (among other meanings) |
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[06:01:00] | jasta: | hmm |
[06:02:00] | jasta: | xpis,kormoc: party at my house Friday if you guys wanna come :) |
[06:02:00] | kormoc: | jasta, ooh? |
[06:02:00] | o_cee: | xpis, wm yes of course :) getting late here |
[06:02:00] | kormoc: | hrm |
[06:02:00] | jasta: | (we're pretty big drinkers though) |
[06:03:00] | kormoc: | jasta, I'm a light social drinker, but I think I'm gonna have to pass. Last weekend my roommate is around before she moves. |
[06:03:00] | kormoc: | next time tho! |
[06:03:00] | jasta: | no big deal. |
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[06:40:00] | smcnaught: | hello all.. |
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[07:17:00] | Pegger: | how much bandwith is necessary between a front end and a backend, is a 802.11b connection enough? |
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[07:32:00] | Pegger: | hello |
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[07:37:00] | threat: | Pegger, hi |
[07:37:00] | Pegger: | how much bandwith is necessary between a front end and a backend, is a 802.11b connection enough? |
[07:39:00] | night-red: | if you can get it to work yes but depending on your hardware and situation and how stable the link is at time mp3's might be to much for it |
[07:40:00] | Freman: | there's a high pitch noise that... rides on audio... |
[07:40:00] | Freman: | I think I'm slightly off frequency |
[07:46:00] | eiggirC: | I have 802.11G working perfectly |
[07:46:00] | eiggirC: | I didn't get 11b working fast enough for mythfrontend |
[07:46:00] | dtm: | Pegger: how much bandwidth is necessary, is how much bandwidth your media stream consumes. |
[07:47:00] | dtm: | Pegger: and a dvd would be less than a top quality 11b signal |
[07:57:00] | Pegger: | how many kb/s should i expect |
[08:00:00] | dtm: | Pegger: crystal ball is broken |
[08:00:00] | eiggirC: | well 802.11b tops out at 4–4.5 Mbit/sec under ideal conditions. |
[08:00:00] | eiggirC: | thats 400 kbytes/second. |
[08:00:00] | eiggirC: | and thats on a good day with a decent CPU :) |
[08:00:00] | eiggirC: | and no encryption. |
[08:00:00] | dtm: | a decent cpu? there's nothing cpu bound about it. and it's 11Mbps. |
[08:01:00] | Pegger: | ok so how much do i need |
[08:01:00] | dtm: | Pegger: ask a question that doesn't require a crystal ball |
[08:01:00] | eiggirC: | depends how old your machine is. I had a P166 that couldn't do 100 kbit/sec through wireless 11b |
[08:01:00] | dtm: | it's seriously broken for a while now |
[08:01:00] | dtm: | eiggirC: no, it doesn't |
[08:01:00] | eiggirC: | dtm: moving the same card to a C300 allowed me to do 400 kbytes/sec |
[08:01:00] | dtm: | the processing is on the card |
[08:02:00] | eiggirC: | dtm: so explain the empirical result. |
[08:02:00] | dtm: | your c300 very well might have been in a different signal path |
[08:02:00] | dtm: | absolutely anything could have caused that. |
[08:02:00] | eiggirC: | nope – same spot on my desk. |
[08:02:00] | eiggirC: | correct – you can't say it wasn't the change of machine :) |
[08:03:00] | eiggirC: | anyway – thats not myth. |
[08:05:00] | Pegger: | so how much bandwith does my hardware need to be able to do in order to have quality video over the network |
[08:05:00] | eiggirC: | pegger: run bwm on a frontend while playing back files |
[08:05:00] | eiggirC: | or iftop |
[08:06:00] | Freman: | Mythtv needs audio filters |
[08:07:00] | Freman: | Tehehe. Re wireless... 802.11b typically has a sustained throughput of about 6 mbits |
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[08:07:00] | Freman: | I work with this stuff on a daily basis. You can get 11 mbits out of it... if you try hard enough... |
[08:09:00] | Juski: | Freman: prevailing winds & all that jazz ;-) |
[08:10:00] | Pegger: | so how many mbits do i need are 6 enough for a frount to talk to a back end |
[08:10:00] | Juski: | 6 might be pushing your luck a bit |
[08:10:00] | Freman: | I can watch SOME shows on my laptop |
[08:11:00] | Freman: | but normally I get lots and lots of prebuffering |
[08:11:00] | Freman: | you're better off looking at 802.11g but that is more prone to interference... |
[08:11:00] | Freman: | or better still... 5.8 802.11a |
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[08:16:00] | ** dtm smacks the crystal ball ** | |
[08:16:00] | dtm: | Pegger: what is your video capture method? what are the specs on your media stream? is it less than what we're discussing [y/n]? ask an intelligent question plz |
[08:17:00] | Pegger: | dtm, well my system is not set up yet, I am just trying to gather some info on what is necessary |
[08:18:00] | Freman: | Juski: I love this 0.19 stuff |
[08:18:00] | dtm: | Pegger: then wifi is irrelevant atm |
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[08:20:00] | Freman: | hehe, want to verify if it's a wifi problem or not? |
[08:20:00] | ** Freman hands Pegger an ethernet cable ** | |
[08:20:00] | Pegger: | dam wall got in the way! |
[08:21:00] | Freman: | well, get a working host first |
[08:21:00] | Freman: | backend rather |
[08:21:00] | Freman: | then work on the wireless bit |
[08:21:00] | Pegger: | do any of you gues find the fans and sutch of your system interfering with the tv watching or do you just turn up the tv |
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[08:24:00] | Freman: | I've got 1 80 mm fan, and 2 120 mm fans in my tv unit, and you can't hear them with the tv off |
[08:25:00] | Freman: | The mobos are all mounted on foam so the cpu fan doesn't caue vibrations through the unit |
[08:25:00] | Freman: | the hdd's are all mounted on foam blocks |
[08:25:00] | Freman: | (yeh there's 2 mobos in there) (c: |
[08:25:00] | Pegger: | why 2 |
[08:26:00] | Freman: | one mobo has my IP PABX (asterisk) on it |
[08:26:00] | Freman: | the other one is my myth system |
[08:26:00] | Pegger: | interesing your PVR is also your PBX |
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[08:27:00] | Freman: | no, totaly seperate systems |
[08:28:00] | Freman: | I've got a TV unit that has 2 shelves enclosed beind 2 glass doors |
[08:28:00] | Freman: | on the top shelf I have a psu, hdd, mobo and related parts that's my PBC |
[08:28:00] | Freman: | X |
[08:28:00] | Freman: | on the bottom shelf I have a psu, 2 hdd's, mobo and related parts that's my PVR |
[08:29:00] | Freman: | there's also a PAP2, and a switch in there (C: |
[08:29:00] | Freman: | when I rebuild this stuff, the pbx will be in a tiny little box... the front end will probably still be there, but the back end will be an athlon X2 |
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[08:39:00] | Pegger: | Freman, all that stuff is hard to picture in my head pictures would probly help |
[08:39:00] | Chicago: | hmm... I just upgraded to v19 on Gentoo... and I need some help getting it working again. I have started fresh from a clean DB... I'm wondering if there are any new tricks to get myth working again. |
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[08:41:00] | Juski: | Chicago: I upgraded on Friday. I had a little bit of trouble getting the backend working with the init script. Worked fine from a terminal though. Turned out to be /etc/mythtv/.mythtv/mysql.txt needing an edit. I thought "EH?!".. why /etc/mythtv/.mythtv/mysql.txt? But hey – that did the trick |
[08:42:00] | Freman: | I went looking for them Pegger, but I can't find the photos |
[08:42:00] | Pegger: | Freman, all i picture in my head is a jumbe of equpment |
[08:43:00] | Chicago: | Juski: what did you have to change there? |
[08:43:00] | Freman: | looks something like that yes |
[08:43:00] | Freman: | arg |
[08:43:00] | Freman: | you have to stop/start the back end when you finetune don't you? |
[08:45:00] | Juski: | Chicago: basically just the network address & DB details... well I only had to put the backend's IP in there |
[08:45:00] | Chicago: | Juski: I'm showing the backend as localhost... which is the backend... did you have to explicitly specify an IP? |
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[08:49:00] | Freman: | hmmm all my analog channels have this weird noise |
[08:49:00] | Freman: | it sounds something like plastic over a speaker |
[08:50:00] | Freman: | every time there's sound the noise is there |
[08:50:00] | Freman: | I'm thinking it's not finetuning |
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[08:53:00] | Juski: | Chicago: My system has a netbooted frontend, so I use the IP address in the DB details settings |
[08:53:00] | Juski: | if mine's set to just localhost the backend can't see itself |
[08:53:00] | Chicago: | Juski: I'm not sure what my problem is... |
[08:54:00] | Juski: | run mythbackend up in a terminal |
[08:54:00] | Juski: | good way to spot errors ;) |
[08:55:00] | Chicago: | what do you mean "run it up" in a terminal? right now I just finished doing the mythfilldatabase in the terminal... and am seeing some lines that read "Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION:" |
[08:56:00] | Juski: | mythfilldatabase, without mythbackend running? |
[08:56:00] | Chicago: | I started the backend. |
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[08:56:00] | Juski: | oh dear that's not good |
[08:56:00] | Chicago: | After running the mythfilldatabase, then I'm seeing the error so I goto restart the backend, and now I cannot start the backend without error... |
[08:56:00] | Chicago: | So, I'm curious about what is really going on. |
[08:56:00] | Juski: | did you compile it yourself or just emerge 0.19? |
[08:57:00] | Chicago: | emerge |
[08:57:00] | Chicago: | think I should have unmerged the old versions... than emerge the new version? |
[08:57:00] | Juski: | emerge should unmerge a previous installation |
[08:58:00] | Chicago: | that's what I figure too... but I've had other ebuild that I had to unmerge outright before it would work. |
[08:58:00] | Chicago: | eh... I'm wondering what to do next. |
[08:58:00] | Juski: | was 0.18 emerged too? |
[08:59:00] | Juski: | I mean when you installed 0.18 did you emerge it or build it yourself? |
[08:59:00] | Chicago: | .18 was there and working... then I emerged .19... then .19 didn't work... so I dropped the mythconverg database... removed the .mythtv dir from ~/root and my users dir... and then imported the sql into the database again and tried the mythtv-setup after starting the backend. |
[08:59:00] | Chicago: | I emerged .18 |
[08:59:00] | Juski: | if you built it yourself, emerging 0.19 might not fully remove it |
[09:00:00] | Juski: | not got my brain into gear properly yet – had a big night out last night so I dunno what to suggest next |
[09:01:00] | Chicago: | I'm unmerging and then going to re-emerge to see if that makes it all better. |
[09:01:00] | Chicago: | I'll let you know :) |
[09:02:00] | Nerv_01: | Hey guys, has anyone had any trouble with mass input in lirc? |
[09:02:00] | Nerv_01: | For example, when I run irw, if I hit one button, the input never stops :( |
[09:03:00] | Juski: | never stops? |
[09:03:00] | Nerv_01: | no, it just keeps going and going |
[09:03:00] | Juski: | when you let go of the button? |
[09:03:00] | Juski: | (just so we're clear on this) |
[09:04:00] | Nerv_01: | i just hit it once and the input keeps on going |
[09:04:00] | Juski: | ouch |
[09:04:00] | Nerv_01: | using the pvr-150 |
[09:04:00] | Juski: | which ivtv version? |
[09:04:00] | Nerv_01: | 0.4.3 |
[09:04:00] | Juski: | have any issues with previous versions? |
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[09:05:00] | Nerv_01: | I havent tried, this was really my first box so cant say |
[09:05:00] | Juski: | if you were running 0.4.1 or 0.4.2 I'd have suggested trying 0.4.3 |
[09:06:00] | Juski: | try an older version – the symptoms might change or go away, but if they don't... get in touch with the ivtv mailing list |
[09:06:00] | Nerv_01: | yeah, i just went through the lirc list, ill check ivtv next :)" |
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[09:27:00] | Hoxzer: | how do I check my mythtv version? |
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[10:18:00] | Freman: | hmmm I've just locked the front end up |
[10:18:00] | Freman: | watched the last item in the list |
[10:18:00] | Freman: | deleted it |
[10:18:00] | Freman: | now it won't do anything |
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[10:29:00] | Bob-Laptop: | Is there an easy way to clear my myth mysql database so I can start over, I have some recordings listed that no longer exist on my disk |
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[10:38:00] | jchome: | hi folks |
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[10:39:00] | t00m: | gday |
[10:40:00] | t00m: | got a nuvexport question |
[10:41:00] | t00m: | does it have to run on the machine where the backend is or is it possible to have it run somewhere else with the 'record' directory nfs mounted |
[10:41:00] | t00m: | and access to the database, of course |
[10:41:00] | t00m: | and mythtv installed |
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[11:48:00] | coffee88: | sphing_: How did your upgrade go? All sorted? |
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[11:51:00] | scopeuk: | ok i cant get uk tv listings to work can any one point me in the right direction |
[11:58:00] | scopeuk: | well at least i know my tuner is working xawtv finds it and tunes it |
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[11:59:00] | laweraser: | hi guys |
[12:00:00] | laweraser: | i have upgraded from 0.18 to 0.19 but the Recording and Live TV isnt working anymore... |
[12:00:00] | coffee88: | laweraser: What distro? |
[12:00:00] | laweraser: | gentoo |
[12:00:00] | laweraser: | 2006-02–19 12:58:14.311 RingBuf(/data/Movies/Recorded/1000_20060219125813.mpg): Invalid file (fd 14) when opening '/data/Movies/Recorded/1000_20060219125813. |
[12:00:00] | laweraser: | mpg'. 12 retries remaining. |
[12:00:00] | laweraser: | 2006-02–19 12:58:14.812 RingBuf(/data/Movies/Recorded/1000_20060219125813.mpg): Invalid file (fd 14) when opening '/data/Movies/Recorded/1000_20060219125813. |
[12:00:00] | laweraser: | mpg'. 11 retries remaining. |
[12:00:00] | laweraser: | it says for 12 times |
[12:00:00] | laweraser: | and then |
[12:00:00] | laweraser: | 2006-02–19 12:58:21.073 NVP::OpenFile(): Error, file not found: /data/Movies/Recorded/1000_20060219125813.mpg |
[12:00:00] | laweraser: | 2006-02–19 12:58:21.077 TV Error: StartPlayer(): NVP is not playing after 20000 msec |
[12:01:00] | coffee88: | You'll need to add the mythtv user to the audio, video, and I think mysql groups |
[12:01:00] | laweraser: | it is in the users, video, audio... added to the mysql group also |
[12:01:00] | laweraser: | the dir perms ar 775 with mythtv:users |
[12:02:00] | laweraser: | and it's making the file but it's 0 bytes |
[12:03:00] | laweraser: | but when i do cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg |
[12:04:00] | laweraser: | it's working correctly |
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[12:05:00] | jchome: | mh .. my mythtv is workin .. but always if a livetv program is over mythtv stops the playback and idle ... |
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[12:08:00] | laweraser: | drwxrwxrwx 2 samba users 119 Feb 19 13:06 . |
[12:08:00] | laweraser: | drwxrwxr-x 15 samba users 4.0K Feb 3 20:43 .. |
[12:08:00] | laweraser: | -rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv users 0 Feb 19 13:05 1000_20060219130538.mpg |
[12:08:00] | laweraser: | -rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv users 0 Feb 19 13:06 1000_20060219130613.mpg |
[12:08:00] | laweraser: | -rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv users 0 Feb 19 13:06 1000_20060219130638.mpg |
[12:08:00] | laweraser: | -rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv users 0 Feb 19 12:55 nfslockfile.lock |
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[12:10:00] | laweraser: | is it possible that's something with my ivtv drivers? |
[12:15:00] | laweraser: | anybody? |
[12:16:00] | coffee88: | laweraser: No idea if this is related, but the perms on my nfslockfile are rw for all.... Are you running the front end as mythtv user too? |
[12:16:00] | laweraser: | yes |
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[12:32:00] | adante: | anybody else use mythrename? i find it takes about 3–4 minutes to execute, was wondering if this was normal |
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[12:43:00] | scopeuk: | when trying to etup video source (in uk) i get he error cannot retrive information from your provider se terminal for more information in the terminal window it says tv_grab_uk_rt command not found |
[12:45:00] | phar0e: | hello tommy |
[12:46:00] | scopeuk: | can any one help me or tell me whas wrong |
[12:46:00] | phar0e: | hmm |
[12:46:00] | phar0e: | where is tv_grab_uk_rt located? |
[12:47:00] | phar0e: | is it in /usr/local/bin or someplace? is it in your path? or does it even exist? |
[12:47:00] | scopeuk: | ive no idea i was givven that eror from inside a script mythtv-setup runs |
[12:47:00] | phar0e: | oh hmm |
[12:47:00] | phar0e: | mythtv-setup? |
[12:47:00] | scopeuk: | yes |
[12:48:00] | scopeuk: | im in the inital configureation stage and im havign some dificulty |
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[12:50:00] | phar0e: | hey scopeuk , looks like others are having problems with that script too |
[12:50:00] | scopeuk: | thanks but all the same irritating |
[12:50:00] | scopeuk: | is there antoher way arroudn the issue anyone is aware of? |
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[12:51:00] | phar0e: | still looking |
[12:51:00] | scopeuk: | ok thanksyou |
[12:52:00] | phar0e: | do you have xmltv installed? if so what version? |
[12:52:00] | scopeuk: | that explaisn alot it wasent installed |
[12:53:00] | scopeuk: | thanks |
[12:53:00] | scopeuk: | away it goes |
[12:53:00] | phar0e: | hehe yeah |
[12:53:00] | phar0e: | people outside of North america need that |
[12:53:00] | scopeuk: | id have though that apt whould have been quick enough to gettat asne of the myth requiremeants |
[12:53:00] | scopeuk: | thanks for your time |
[12:53:00] | scopeuk: | i knew idbe here asking stupid questions |
[12:53:00] | phar0e: | trust me, I ask a lot stupider questions |
[12:54:00] | scopeuk: | every guide ive looked at has madeno mention ofxml tv jsut runthe setup is all i get |
[12:54:00] | scopeuk: | time to try again |
[12:55:00] | scopeuk: | yay its working |
[12:55:00] | scopeuk: | Thankyou so much |
[12:55:00] | phar0e: | no problem, have fun with mythtv |
[12:55:00] | phar0e: | off to bed, later |
[12:55:00] | scopeuk: | l8r |
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[13:03:00] | scopeuk: | wow my 433 with frame graber card is jsut short of real time for live tv |
[13:06:00] | ** scopeuk notes that he has to run nyth fill database ** | |
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[13:11:00] | scopeuk: | ok all im loving myth tv |
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[13:14:00] | fir3st0rm: | hi |
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[13:24:00] | scopeuk: | hi |
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[13:53:00] | t00m: | nuvexport people around? |
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[13:58:00] | stuarta: | afternoon all. |
[13:58:00] | scopeuk: | hi |
[14:02:00] | HeMan: | Hi! I have a problem getting my DVB-T-card to work under mythtv |
[14:03:00] | HeMan: | when using tzap an dvdstream i can see the channels, but in mythtv it tells me that i have a problem with the signal |
[14:04:00] | HeMan: | dvbstream should it be |
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[14:23:00] | Juski: | afternoon stuarta |
[14:24:00] | stuarta: | hola Juski :) |
[14:24:00] | Juski: | added myself to the roster of happy 0.19 users on friday :) |
[14:24:00] | stuarta: | It's good isn't it... |
[14:25:00] | Juski: | aye |
[14:25:00] | Juski: | love the new mythweb |
[14:25:00] | Juski: | really like mythmusic's improvements too |
[14:25:00] | stuarta: | Overall, it's a lot better, though it still has rough edges... |
[14:25:00] | Juski: | and er... haven't tried much else out yet |
[14:25:00] | scopeuk: | wow think i managed to breack my box already |
[14:25:00] | stuarta: | well done... |
[14:26:00] | scopeuk: | quicker than expected |
[14:26:00] | scopeuk: | backend tried sending mail an it fialed whilst booting i take it thats not normal |
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[14:27:00] | Juski: | never quite got round to getting mail working on my backend |
[14:27:00] | scopeuk: | i don think i even tried |
[14:27:00] | scopeuk: | but it says attmepting sendmail while booting says it faield with eror one |
[14:27:00] | scopeuk: | weird |
[14:28:00] | Juski: | starting mythbackend in a terminal is your friend |
[14:28:00] | scopeuk: | ive tried that |
[14:28:00] | Juski: | and it works? |
[14:28:00] | scopeuk: | let me jsut attempt to find if itws up or nto atm |
[14:33:00] | scopeuk: | think i know whats up |
[14:33:00] | scopeuk: | i mounted my xfs partition ot where myth stores fiels after a rcording and its screwed it up a little |
[14:34:00] | stuarta: | sounds like you broke it properly |
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[14:37:00] | scopeuk: | its workign again now |
[14:37:00] | scopeuk: | i debroke it |
[14:38:00] | scopeuk: | its a wodnerfull piece of software |
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[14:39:00] | scopeuk: | damn i broke the database |
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[14:42:00] | scopeuk: | think im gonan have to reinstall mythtv |
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[14:43:00] | scopeuk: | techinicaly i could probably fix it but it hwould takelogner than a fresh isntall |
[14:48:00] | sphing__: | which mysql table is used to lock the db |
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[14:54:00] | stuarta: | curling is strangely addictive... |
[14:54:00] | coffee88: | I know. Very. |
[14:54:00] | scopeuk: | i was watching curling |
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[14:54:00] | scopeuk: | then was drawn to stargate |
[14:55:00] | stuarta: | ahah. I record stargate, while watching curling :) |
[14:55:00] | coffee88: | I want to stop watching. But I just can't! |
[14:55:00] | scopeuk: | you see i was goingto do a recording but my box wasent up for the start |
[14:56:00] | stuarta: | I just leave mine on, it's easier... |
[14:57:00] | scopeuk: | i mean wasent installed |
[14:57:00] | scopeuk: | i screwed up myinstalation that badly ive had tostart again |
[14:57:00] | scopeuk: | think i broke the database |
[14:58:00] | Juski: | duh.. bad user |
[14:58:00] | Juski: | ;-) |
[14:58:00] | scopeuk: | yup |
[14:58:00] | ** scopeuk never claimed otherwise ** | |
[14:58:00] | scopeuk: | was trying to modify it to accept external collections |
[14:58:00] | scopeuk: | i have learnt my lesson and will be using a gui tool next time |
[14:58:00] | Juski: | erm.. thats probably no reason to reinstall though |
[14:58:00] | stuarta: | Problem lies in the "chair to keyboard interface" :-) |
[14:58:00] | Juski: | you only need change one like to accept external connections |
[14:59:00] | scopeuk: | yeh im no expert i was fgollowigna guide at the time aswell |
[14:59:00] | ** scopeuk == dunce ** | |
[14:59:00] | scopeuk: | and yes its pebkac |
[14:59:00] | Juski: | should've seen my 0.15 install – that was a mess lol |
[14:59:00] | scopeuk: | problem exists between keyboard and chair |
[14:59:00] | scopeuk: | i dotn even know what verion it is |
[15:00:00] | scopeuk: | its just straight out of an un official apt repository |
[15:00:00] | Juski: | do you know what day it is though? |
[15:00:00] | scopeuk: | sunday i think |
[15:00:00] | scopeuk: | ask me this time next week and i wont |
[15:00:00] | Juski: | must be sunday, I have a hangover |
[15:00:00] | scopeuk: | lol |
[15:00:00] | scopeuk: | its 1/2 term week by friday i wotn knwo what day it is |
[15:02:00] | Juski: | half term? woohoo easy traffic week :-) |
[15:02:00] | scopeuk: | yup |
[15:02:00] | scopeuk: | 1/2 term in north think southern 1/2 term was last week |
[15:02:00] | coffee88: | judging from the tubes lasts week, yes it was. |
[15:03:00] | scopeuk: | and why does webmin from apt not have the right packages built in to allow it to be upgraded to a version compatable with the latest packages |
[15:04:00] | scopeuk: | im on 0.18 atm is there any point going to 0.19 |
[15:05:00] | Juski: | mythweb takes a few more minutes to configure but that's about it – I uprgaded on friday & I'd say it was worth it |
[15:05:00] | scopeuk: | spose i orta fix 1.8 up before i switch |
[15:05:00] | Juski: | wasa fair slog getting minimyth back up to form but it's there now |
[15:06:00] | scopeuk: | myth web is nice |
[15:06:00] | coffee88: | Is it just me, or is skipping foward in 19 a lot crisper? |
[15:06:00] | laga: | Juski: hi. i'm currently installing gentoo on one of my mythtv boxen ;) |
[15:06:00] | laga: | coffee88: yep |
[15:06:00] | laga: | coffee88: i mean, that it's snappier |
[15:06:00] | coffee88: | Thought so. Nice! |
[15:06:00] | Juski: | laga: you glutton for punishment, you ;) |
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[15:06:00] | laga: | Juski: i need mad CFLAGS and everything for that p3 450. ;) |
[15:07:00] | Juski: | ooo fun |
[15:07:00] | laga: | Juski: compiling on an athlon xp, though. this is gonna be mythfrontend only, so no unnecessary bloat |
[15:07:00] | coffee88: | But doesn't the new ebuild of mythtv strip them all out again? |
[15:07:00] | laga: | coffee88: i mean, for the rest of the OS. |
[15:07:00] | coffee88: | Ah. |
[15:08:00] | scopeuk: | how many times have they killed danial n stargate now? |
[15:08:00] | Juski: | scopeuk: er.. not enough?! |
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[15:14:00] | sphing: | coffee88: i just fixed my problem |
[15:14:00] | sphing: | ...lol o man too funny |
[15:14:00] | coffee88: | sphing: With RT grab? |
[15:14:00] | sphing: | no, with libmythui |
[15:14:00] | sphing: | remember yesterday it wouldn't work |
[15:14:00] | sphing: | ... the harddrive was full |
[15:14:00] | sphing: | (well that partition at least) |
[15:14:00] | coffee88: | heh |
[15:15:00] | sphing: | <-- stupid |
[15:15:00] | sphing: | well i'm gonna let it run, let you know if i have any more problems |
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[15:25:00] | coffee88: | Juski: Are you deinterlacing on your epia? |
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[15:32:00] | scopeuk: | you know that old saying learn from your mistakes |
[15:32:00] | scopeuk: | well i think i just got round to the mistake that makes me reinstall debian net inst for the 4th time |
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[15:44:00] | a1fa: | hello |
[15:44:00] | a1fa: | :P |
[15:47:00] | a1fa: | i found a really weerd bug.. when you watch recordings, and you delete them all |
[15:47:00] | a1fa: | the menu locks-up! |
[15:47:00] | a1fa: | you cant move back into the previous menu |
[15:47:00] | phatmonkey: | really pleased with 0.19, got it working on ubuntu with the mce remote and dvb/freeview |
[15:47:00] | phatmonkey: | I might make a little step by step guide |
[15:48:00] | a1fa: | phatmonkey : svn > 0.19 :P |
[15:48:00] | phatmonkey: | D: |
[15:48:00] | phatmonkey: | maybe later :P |
[15:49:00] | a1fa: | i'm compiling svn as we speak |
[15:50:00] | scopeuk: | how many weeks does it take? |
[15:50:00] | Cardoe: | a1fa: why? |
[15:50:00] | a1fa: | scopeuk : about 1/80th of a week |
[15:50:00] | scopeuk: | ouch |
[15:51:00] | a1fa: | ~ 30 minutes |
[15:51:00] | a1fa: | :P |
[15:51:00] | scopeuk: | lol |
[15:51:00] | a1fa: | man.. when will they release new lost |
[15:51:00] | scopeuk: | im reinstaling debian again |
[15:51:00] | scopeuk: | 4th time thisweek |
[15:51:00] | a1fa: | why? |
[15:51:00] | Cardoe: | scopeuk: you know what that tells you? Switch distros |
[15:51:00] | scopeuk: | ive managed to destroy my mth setup this time |
[15:52:00] | scopeuk: | the last few were me duffing up the isntall script |
[15:52:00] | stuarta: | doesn't mean you need to reinstall... |
[15:52:00] | a1fa: | Cardoe : debian > * |
[15:52:00] | scopeuk: | i tried cleaning out everythign andstarting from scratch but it didentwork |
[15:52:00] | stuarta: | what exactly did you break? |
[15:52:00] | scopeuk: | Cardoe debian is the only distro i have more than 30 mins use of |
[15:52:00] | Cardoe: | a1fa: ok... sure.... keep telling yourself that |
[15:53:00] | Cardoe: | scopeuk: well if you keep destroying the install... maybe it means you should try another one |
[15:53:00] | a1fa: | Cardoe : lol.. what are you 5? |
[15:53:00] | a1fa: | go download fedora and jack off |
[15:53:00] | scopeuk: | i acidentaly went into aptituded a place which in the isntall scriptthere is no return from without droping to cli |
[15:53:00] | Cardoe: | a1fa: ? |
[15:53:00] | a1fa: | right, stfu |
[15:54:00] | Cardoe: | a1fa: You're calling me immature? ha. |
[15:54:00] | stuarta: | whatever turns you on... |
[15:54:00] | scopeuk: | children children lets not fight |
[15:54:00] | scopeuk: | agree to disagree |
[15:54:00] | ** scopeuk hands out cookies and milk ** | |
[15:54:00] | a1fa: | lol |
[15:54:00] | scopeuk: | :D |
[15:54:00] | a1fa: | gentoo.. only distro that is outdated by the time it compiles |
[15:56:00] | a1fa: | anyway |
[15:56:00] | a1fa: | time to eat sheep cheesed |
[15:57:00] | Cardoe: | Did I say anything about Gentoo? |
[15:57:00] | Cardoe: | I was actually going to suggest scopeuk use Ubuntu or Fedora |
[15:57:00] | Cardoe: | a1fa: way to prove your a 13 year old kid at mom and dad's house being a "l33t hax0r" |
[15:57:00] | a1fa: | lol |
[15:57:00] | a1fa: | Ubuntu? |
[15:57:00] | stuarta: | debian with release schedules |
[15:57:00] | a1fa: | Ubuntu is practically debian |
[15:57:00] | a1fa: | Fedora is just yuckie |
[15:58:00] | a1fa: | yeah! i am 13 |
[15:58:00] | a1fa: | and I am l3337ah h3x0rZz! |
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[15:58:00] | Cardoe: | a1fa: go troll elsewhere |
[15:58:00] | a1fa: | i am just going to have to put you in my ignore queue |
[15:59:00] | a1fa: | you are not worth it |
[16:00:00] | a1fa: | stuarta : know of any good shows coming up? |
[16:00:00] | scopeuk: | cxan we stop figting |
[16:00:00] | scopeuk: | if you guys could put this much effort into coding windows whould have dided weeks ago |
[16:00:00] | scopeuk: | startrk enterprise chan 4 atm |
[16:01:00] | Cardoe: | scopeuk: I'm not fighting. |
[16:01:00] | a1fa: | i am not a big star* fan |
[16:01:00] | scopeuk: | i have these conversaations with my siblings ecept i cant drag you two to opposite corners of the room |
[16:01:00] | Cardoe: | scopeuk: right... |
[16:02:00] | a1fa: | any new series coming out |
[16:02:00] | a1fa: | Flip This House, and Flip That House are good |
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[16:03:00] | a1fa: | Las Vegas, Lost, Prison Break.. |
[16:03:00] | a1fa: | what else is good? |
[16:03:00] | a1fa: | along these lines |
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[16:04:00] | Juski: | coffee88: I'm not having to deinterlace these days ;-) |
[16:04:00] | Juski: | some clever person put proper interlaced video modes into the unichrome driver |
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[16:07:00] | Juski: | only discovered that by accident though – turned deinterlacing off by mistook |
[16:08:00] | otwin: | Juski: you are a minimyth user, iirc, right? ever used live tv > 20 min. on the same channel? |
[16:09:00] | a1fa: | Miami Ink is good |
[16:10:00] | Juski: | owtin: live tv? what's that? |
[16:10:00] | Juski: | *otwin, even |
[16:10:00] | otwin: | since updating to 0.19 the frontend crashed severall times... |
[16:11:00] | Juski: | well that minimyth is just a beta remember |
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[16:12:00] | otwin: | yes i know – but everything is fine on your frontend? |
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[16:12:00] | a1fa: | Dr. 90210 |
[16:12:00] | otwin: | here is my frontend output, btw: http://pastebin.ca/42137 |
[16:13:00] | Juski: | otwin: everything except what I don't use, AFAIK |
[16:14:00] | Juski: | only my wife watches evil tv here, and she's not using myth for that |
[16:14:00] | scopeuk: | well i shall be reinstalling myth in a little over 2 hours including the tiem taken to decompress xfree86 |
[16:14:00] | otwin: | :-) |
[16:15:00] | Juski: | learn to code instead of being a couch potato watching junk ;) |
[16:15:00] | scopeuk: | now there is some advice i should take |
[16:16:00] | Juski: | if you can't code, make a new theme or 2 – mythtv needs more wide themes |
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[16:20:00] | Juski: | get those crayons out people! |
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[16:21:00] | defaultro: | morning guys, I missed NBA slam dunk yesterday. Do you know guys if there's a replay? |
[16:25:00] | coffee88: | Juski: Sorry, lost connection.... You're outputting through tv out, right? |
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[16:26:00] | Juski: | coffee88: yes |
[16:26:00] | coffee88: | I'm just wondering if I'm driving my box harder than I need to... I'm outputting 1024x768 to an LCD tv through vga dsub... Wondering if I'm not better off using svideo and 720x576? |
[16:27:00] | Juski: | coffee88: no idea |
[16:28:00] | coffee88: | Hmm. may have to try and see what it does to both the picture and the load.... |
[16:28:00] | Juski: | 1024x768.. what's the native res of the TV? |
[16:28:00] | coffee88: | 1366x768 |
[16:29:00] | coffee88: | 1024x768 is the closest the unichome can currently do, I think.... |
[16:29:00] | Juski: | should really use 1366x768 then if you can – custom modeline needed no doubt |
[16:29:00] | Juski: | lcds never scale well |
[16:29:00] | ** coffee88 hates modelines. ** | |
[16:30:00] | coffee88: | Yeah, there is always a few artifacts from the scaling... Most obviously during any football, for some reason.... |
[16:31:00] | coffee88: | will the scaling up from dvb-t load the proc? |
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[16:33:00] | DGnome: | coffee88: how slow is your box if you have to consider cpu-load from scaling? |
[16:33:00] | coffee88: | epia 600mhz..... |
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[16:34:00] | DGnome: | wouldn't think that scaling wpuld be a problem because you are allready doing it |
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[16:35:00] | Juski: | coffee88: what's yer load with xvmc enabled? |
[16:35:00] | coffee88: | Yeah, it copes, but the load seems higher... But as all I'm outputting is pal resolution, I just wondered if it was better to heave the tv to do the scaling.... |
[16:35:00] | thelogin: | hello i'm lookign for the mythtv lirc config file for the pinnacle pctvsat remote control ? |
[16:35:00] | coffee88: | Juski: it's about 25% user, 20% system.... |
[16:35:00] | Juski: | what?! |
[16:35:00] | Juski: | oh wait you're only 600mhz |
[16:36:00] | coffee88: | yeah, that's why I'm wondering,,, |
[16:36:00] | coffee88: | Poor little boxen. |
[16:36:00] | Juski: | I get 15% on playing dvb-t recordings back at 720x576 |
[16:37:00] | thelogin: | anyone got a idea ? |
[16:37:00] | coffee88: | Right. My mission for the first hour that the gf gives me to play around is to try svideo and see what happens.... I don't rally know enough about how the unichrome stuff works..... |
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[16:39:00] | Juski: | coffee88: goot luck with that.. copy your minimyth.conf first though (backup before you knackup ;-) ) |
[16:39:00] | nuxil: | can i use that XML stuff from a file?? like tv_grab_no --days=2 > /tmp/TV.xml ?? and use that to set the tv guide?? |
[16:39:00] | coffee88: | Juski: it's a full gentoo box. I have an old xorg.conf that I was using first for a crt tv, so shouldn't be too much effort.... |
[16:40:00] | Juski: | oh not minimyth.. oops |
[16:40:00] | nuxil: | guys? |
[16:40:00] | scopeuk: | nuxil you can use an xml file |
[16:40:00] | nuxil: | :D |
[16:40:00] | nuxil: | thxz |
[16:40:00] | scopeuk: | buildmythdatabase -file i belive |
[16:40:00] | coffee88: | not yet. Thinking of doing minimyth for another fe in the bedroom. If I can find a small enough case.... |
[16:41:00] | ** Juski is thinking about a Hauppauge MVP for the kitchen ** | |
[16:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | the output of the mvp is nice |
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[16:42:00] | nuxil: | i got a pvr 500.. doent work in ubuntu ;C nor does mythtv |
[16:42:00] | nuxil: | :C |
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[16:42:00] | nuxil: | dep errors |
[16:42:00] | Juski: | nuxil: took me 30 mins to get a pvr150 going in breezy |
[16:42:00] | night-red: | what is a good overscann setting and shift to set to? |
[16:42:00] | Juski: | 2 hours from flat HDD to working myth system |
[16:43:00] | nuxil: | Juski how did you do that? |
[16:43:00] | nuxil: | i get error about tha database |
[16:43:00] | Juski: | nuxil: I read the f'ing manual |
[16:43:00] | nuxil: | so did i |
[16:43:00] | Juski: | heh. so I must've read it & understood it then (oops) |
[16:44:00] | nuxil: | x.x |
[16:44:00] | nuxil: | did you use apt? |
[16:44:00] | nuxil: | or source |
[16:44:00] | Juski: | apt |
[16:45:00] | Juski: | and the guide at abarbaccia.com |
[16:45:00] | Juski: | compiled ivtv from source |
[16:45:00] | Juski: | night-red: those things depend on your TV |
[16:46:00] | ** coffee88 goes off to see if he's allowed to "break the tv" today..... ** | |
[16:46:00] | Juski: | night-red: experiment with different settings til you find it looks nice |
[16:47:00] | night-red: | see the problem i have is 1% over scann mean i have to shift how much? |
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[16:50:00] | nuxil: | do you guys recomend knoppmyth for a noob?? |
[16:50:00] | a1fa: | nuxil : nah |
[16:51:00] | a1fa: | nuxil : just install debian and svn that bad boy |
[16:51:00] | a1fa: | nuxil : you will go through the same ammount of work + you will gain experience |
[16:51:00] | nuxil: | whats diff betwwn ubuntu and deb? |
[16:51:00] | stuarta: | juski: the important bit is putting mysql.txt in the right place. |
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[16:53:00] | a1fa: | nuxil : different package maintaners |
[16:53:00] | a1fa: | well, not all packages |
[16:54:00] | a1fa: | little bit differnet structure.. it is mostly gui setip |
[16:54:00] | a1fa: | i dont recomend it, unless you are going to use your mythtv as a desktop |
[16:54:00] | a1fa: | i run barebones on mine.. |
[16:54:00] | nuxil: | oh.. |
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[17:11:00] | Jasper: | hello guys |
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[17:13:00] | Scopeuk_: | ok ill bite hi |
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[17:15:00] | Jasper: | ;p |
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[17:21:00] | Jasper: | anyone here who can help me with getting xvmc to work? |
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[17:28:00] | Cardoe: | hey Jasper |
[17:28:00] | Cardoe: | what's the error in the log? |
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[17:33:00] | mofu: | Jasper: what's your's do, problems here w/ xvmc here also, just crashes the frontend |
[17:33:00] | Jasper: | http://home.planet.nl/~verberk/wrm.txt that is a detailed log |
[17:34:00] | Jasper: | what happends is...whn I start livetv...I hear 1 second sound...and the screen stays blank...and then the sounds stops...and mythfrontend freezes |
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[17:36:00] | scopeuk: | has any one tried multiple backends where te master is the only with a tuner such that the otehrs act as just proccesing nodes |
[17:36:00] | mofu: | actually mine crashes my Xserver |
[17:37:00] | Jasper: | well yes I can't go to x either |
[17:37:00] | Jasper: | that's right |
[17:37:00] | Jasper: | what device mofu? |
[17:37:00] | mofu: | scopeuk: very doable, you don't need a full mythbackend install on the nodes |
[17:37:00] | Jasper: | but mplayer also doesn't work with xvmc |
[17:37:00] | mofu: | Jasper: device?? |
[17:38:00] | Jasper: | graphic card |
[17:38:00] | Jasper: | this is a mplayer log: http://home.planet.nl/~verberk/error3.txt |
[17:39:00] | rtsai1111: | how do i edit mythmusic metadata? |
[17:40:00] | mofu: | its an FX5200 |
[17:40:00] | Jasper: | hmm I got a 6200 |
[17:41:00] | scopeuk: | mofu thanks and yes once i finsih getting the master backedn workin ay play with it |
[17:41:00] | stuarta: | what driver version? |
[17:41:00] | scopeuk: | i have arount 10433s stuffed inmy cupboard |
[17:41:00] | Jasper: | stuarta asking me? |
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[17:41:00] | stuarta: | erm, mofu actually.. |
[17:42:00] | Jasper: | k |
[17:42:00] | stuarta: | cause some of the nvidia drivers are crap. |
[17:42:00] | mofu: | stuarta: just a minute let me look |
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[17:42:00] | stuarta: | then again, maybe you guys should compare version numbers... |
[17:42:00] | mofu: | looks like it might be 7174 . . . . |
[17:43:00] | mofu: | Ubuntu legacy I think |
[17:43:00] | Jasper: | I got latest version |
[17:43:00] | mofu: | 7676 is supposed to be preferred?? |
[17:44:00] | Jasper: | 81.. something |
[17:45:00] | sona: | the 81xxx have bugs |
[17:45:00] | sona: | lot of wierd colors while watching movies |
[17:45:00] | sona: | small red and blue dots all over, not that annoying tho |
[17:45:00] | Jasper: | hmm K |
[17:46:00] | Jasper: | I'll downgrade AGAIN to 767 |
[17:46:00] | Jasper: | :p |
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[17:52:00] | mofu: | does it matter what video drivers are installed when you compile Myth w/ XvMC support?? |
[17:53:00] | stuarta: | if they haven't changed the interface it shouldn't matter.. |
[17:54:00] | scopeuk: | its truly ammazing how much this system doesent liek linux |
[17:54:00] | scopeuk: | 2.6 kernal wont even boot on it |
[17:54:00] | stuarta: | what evil system have you got? |
[17:54:00] | scopeuk: | its a 433 celeron |
[17:55:00] | scopeuk: | im not sure what is so evil about it but theres something linux rearly doesent like |
[17:55:00] | Inatone: | Can anyone show give me a link for a 0.19 front end for Mac OSX please? |
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[17:59:00] | mofu: | Inatone: http://thesniderpad.com/index.php?option=com_ . . . mp;Itemid=36 |
[17:59:00] | mofu: | search is your friend . . . |
[18:00:00] | Inatone: | mofu: I have searched on google but had no success, looked in the mythtc-dev ml but also no luck |
[18:01:00] | Inatone: | mofu: thanks for the link anyway, it looks good |
[18:01:00] | Inatone: | this channel was my last resort |
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[18:04:00] | mofu: | Inatone: was posted to Mythtv-Users |
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[18:06:00] | mofu: | Inatone: you running HD on OS X ??? |
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[18:10:00] | Inatone: | mofu: OK hadn't checked that ml, I had followed the wiki at http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/wiki/index.php/FAQ#Mac_OSX which says look in mythtv-dev archives. |
[18:10:00] | Inatone: | mofu: I'm in the UK we we are still on old fashioned DVB!! |
[18:10:00] | jchome: | Hey folks, how can i make the LiveTV Options viewable in 0.19? Evrytime I'm looking LiveTV at the end of the program that i'm watchin mythtv hang up and i have to press Esc .. |
[18:11:00] | scopeuk: | Inatone nothing wrong with dvb |
[18:11:00] | Pitchin_uk: | hi guys im having problems with the mythbackend service auto starting on boot |
[18:11:00] | jchome: | Pitchin_uk: me got the same problem ;-] |
[18:12:00] | Inatone: | scopeuk: no there isn't, but I've seen some HD demos are they are mighty fine |
[18:12:00] | Pitchin_uk: | i had it working and now cant work out what i have done to alter it |
[18:12:00] | scopeuk: | Inatone couldent agreemore |
[18:13:00] | scopeuk: | although imho when analog shutdowen happens the way will be open for hd over the air in the uk |
[18:15:00] | scopeuk: | ok im off for a bit be back in a cupple of hours |
[18:16:00] | Inatone: | scopeuk: HD over the air would be amaizing, do you mean terestial or sky? |
[18:17:00] | Inatone: | gota go to another room to try out the new front end on my mac mini |
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[18:25:00] | Jasper: | wow |
[18:26:00] | Jasper: | I got xvmc to work I thiNk |
[18:26:00] | Jasper: | no more errors at least |
[18:26:00] | stuarta: | Inatone: some satellites are already carrying HDTV |
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[18:30:00] | Cardoe: | anyone on Ubuntu? |
[18:30:00] | mofu: | Cardoe: yeah |
[18:30:00] | blayne: | Has anyone run the mythtv 0.19 upgrade, only to run into a database problem? The upgrade appears to be trying to add a new db column twice, and on the second time, it fails the conversion. |
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[18:30:00] | Cardoe: | mofu: can you run Desktop->About->ubuntu then do ps aux |
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[18:31:00] | blayne: | It seems to try to add oldrecorded.generic twice. |
[18:31:00] | Cardoe: | tell me what app is running that? |
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[18:32:00] | blayne: | Cardoe, after I ran the upgrade, when I start mythbackend, it does this. |
[18:32:00] | Cardoe: | I was talking to mofu |
[18:32:00] | mofu: | Cardoe: nope, I start w/ a server install and add a minimal X system, normal Ubuntu install is too much for a Myth System |
[18:32:00] | Cardoe: | mofu: ah ok |
[18:32:00] | Cardoe: | blayne: I don't know. |
[18:32:00] | Cardoe: | I'd say it failed to update the DB version # |
[18:32:00] | mofu: | full Gnome desktop is HEAVY |
[18:32:00] | blayne: | Gotcha |
[18:33:00] | blayne: | Has anyone successfully upgraded from 0.18 to 0.19? |
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[18:33:00] | Cardoe: | blayne: do you care about your DB data |
[18:33:00] | Cardoe: | ? |
[18:34:00] | Jasper: | hmm should I use enable opengl vertical syncing for timing? |
[18:34:00] | blayne: | Sorta, yeah. |
[18:34:00] | blayne: | You're thinking let it recreate the db |
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[18:35:00] | quink: | hey. |
[18:36:00] | Cardoe: | blayne: yes |
[18:37:00] | blayne: | Since this happens on the oldrecorded table, I wonder if I could just rename that table, and let the new mythtv version create it. |
[18:37:00] | blayne: | Or would it error on not finding it? |
[18:37:00] | Cardoe: | it wouldn't recreate it |
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[18:37:00] | Kelerion: | it only recreated it during an upgrade as I recall |
[18:37:00] | blayne: | I guess my better alternative is to reinstall version 0.18 |
[18:38:00] | blayne: | Kelerion, so you think it might recreate it? |
[18:38:00] | Kelerion: | no it won't.. not if it's already as the version of the db it thinks it should be at |
[18:38:00] | stuarta: | I'd say backup your database & recreate the whole thing. |
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[18:38:00] | blayne: | rats |
[18:38:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
[18:39:00] | Jasper: | I think xvmc is never gonna work on this machine.. |
[18:39:00] | blayne: | Failing that, where can I get rpms for 0.18 in order to backlevel my software |
[18:39:00] | blayne: | atrpms stable now has 0.19 |
[18:40:00] | Kelerion: | fc4? |
[18:40:00] | blayne: | yes |
[18:41:00] | blayne: | 2.6.14–1.1644_FC4 |
[18:43:00] | Kelerion: | just checked.. can't find any.. most people refer back to atrpms |
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[18:43:00] | harryk: | sup all |
[18:43:00] | harryk: | need some assistance please |
[18:44:00] | harryk: | getting an error when trying to connect my seconday box to the master backend |
[18:44:00] | Kelerion: | blayne, http://dist.itu.dk/ATrpms/fedora/4/en/i386/at-stable/RPMS/ |
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[18:45:00] | harryk: | 'The server uses network protocol version 26, but this client only understands version 15. Make sure you are running compatbile versions of the backend and frontend' |
[18:45:00] | harryk: | this is a fresh install of mythtv .19 |
[18:45:00] | harryk: | and running a remote workstation using knoppmyth r5a30.2 |
[18:45:00] | Kelerion: | multiple copies? |
[18:46:00] | harryk: | any suggestions? |
[18:46:00] | Kury: | Can I get a TV Tuner for Satalite TV? |
[18:46:00] | harryk: | ... kury can you read this text? |
[18:46:00] | blayne: | Thanks Kelerion |
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[18:47:00] | Kelerion: | we can see you harryk |
[18:47:00] | harryk1977: | sorry, had a message in a previous window about the nick already being used |
[18:47:00] | harryk1977: | just wanted to make sure |
[18:48:00] | harryk1977: | anyone have any thoughts about this network protocol version 26 versus the frontend using 15 |
[18:48:00] | Kelerion: | and I asked if it were possible you were running/installed multiple copies of mythtv of your frontend |
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[18:49:00] | harryk1977: | Kelerion, no... atleast I don't think so |
[18:49:00] | ubahivn: | hey how is everybody |
[18:49:00] | harryk1977: | running knoppmyth from cd for the frotnend |
[18:50:00] | harryk1977: | but the backend is from a clean RPM install, not using knoppmyth |
[18:50:00] | Kelerion: | old version of knopp then? |
[18:50:00] | harryk1977: | possibly, I downloaded the latest this morning, and burned, thinking the same thing, but still receive the same result |
[18:51:00] | harryk1977: | prior I tried with a r5a16 and r5a26 |
[18:51:00] | harryk1977: | same results accross all three |
[18:52:00] | Kelerion: | well you obviously have mismatched versions somewhere.. |
[18:52:00] | harryk1977: | correct, that is obvious |
[18:52:00] | Kury: | Can I get a TV Tuner for Satalite TV? (harryk: I don't see the text you are talking about) |
[18:52:00] | harryk1977: | is there a way to determine what version protocol is being used? |
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[18:54:00] | ubahivn: | Hi, I am having trouble recording after I switched to S-video input. I set a manual recording and I get a "duplicate entry" SQL error |
[18:56:00] | ubahivn: | any ideas? |
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[18:58:00] | ubahivn: | hello. anyone awake? |
[18:59:00] | harryk1977: | ubahivn, we're here |
[18:59:00] | harryk1977: | i've got no answer for you, sorry |
[18:59:00] | ubahivn: | ok |
[18:59:00] | ubahivn: | it is odd I was working fine coming in from coax |
[19:00:00] | ubahivn: | but you have never heard of an error like this |
[19:00:00] | harryk1977: | i'm new to myth |
[19:00:00] | ubahivn: | kk |
[19:00:00] | harryk1977: | i've only got my backend up |
[19:00:00] | ubahivn: | any guru about? |
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[19:00:00] | harryk1977: | and am attempting to get my remote frontend working |
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[19:00:00] | ubahivn: | sry I havent tried a remote frontend yet |
[19:01:00] | harryk1977: | ubahivn, Kelerion was attempting to help me earlier ... he's awake |
[19:01:00] | ubahivn: | I am running back and front from the same box |
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[19:01:00] | harryk1977: | FYI ... when you do get to that point |
[19:01:00] | ubahivn: | ? |
[19:01:00] | harryk1977: | there is a little peice thats not overly public |
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[19:02:00] | harryk1977: | but the documentation explains that you have to setup the mysql DB to allow for remote connections |
[19:02:00] | harryk1977: | by default it does not |
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[19:02:00] | ubahivn: | in the mythtv-setup |
[19:02:00] | ubahivn: | or when you compile it? |
[19:02:00] | harryk1977: | I can't tell you how many times I read and re-read that peice before I actually 'saw' what I was missing |
[19:02:00] | harryk1977: | no |
[19:02:00] | harryk1977: | after compile time |
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[19:02:00] | harryk1977: | it can be added later |
[19:02:00] | Led-Hed: | 0.19 is the Bomb. Love "Edit Keys" |
[19:03:00] | Led-Hed: | and my OSD flicker is gone... |
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[19:03:00] | ** nasa can't get 0.19 to work right... :{ ** | |
[19:03:00] | Led-Hed: | nasa, whats the prob? |
[19:03:00] | nasa: | At differernt time I get mythfrontend to hand |
[19:04:00] | nasa: | /s/hand/hang |
[19:04:00] | nasa: | with X reporting 99% cpu usage |
[19:04:00] | Led-Hed: | humm |
[19:05:00] | nasa: | I havent' been able to nail down exactly what causes it — I can typically watch tv but switching to epg causes the lockup (can't even ctrl-alt-backspace out of it) |
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[19:05:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v xris | |
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[19:06:00] | nasa: | EPG isn't the only area that I can have it freeze, however, it doesn't happen every time. |
[19:06:00] | nasa: | When I do have it hang, I can always ssh into the box without any issues. |
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[19:07:00] | fir3st0rm: | xris: hi are you there? |
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[19:07:00] | xris: | yes |
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[19:08:00] | fir3st0rm: | you are programming mythweb right? |
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[19:11:00] | fir3st0rm: | xris: is it possible to add country-specific links to movie databases in mythweb? |
[19:11:00] | xris: | only manually at the moment. that'd be a cool addition, though |
[19:12:00] | xris: | would be pretty easy to make it a configurable option. |
[19:12:00] | blayne: | Led-Hed, did you do a fresh install of 0.19, or an upgrade from 0.18? |
[19:12:00] | fir3st0rm: | and the ability to select colour skins would be also cool |
[19:15:00] | cosmo-: | anyone know how the dvd remote on xbox should work? i did a apt-get dist-upgrade on my frontend xbox and the remote stopped working |
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[19:16:00] | ubahivn: | ok it looks like a problem with mythfilldatabase |
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[19:24:00] | achew22: | Hello all! |
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[19:29:00] | mofu: | when installing a custom kernel, should anything be done with /usr/include/linux . . . installation of the kernel does not seem to overwrite these files . . . |
[19:29:00] | mofu: | specifically for compiling Myth against /usr/include/linux/dvb |
[19:30:00] | mofu: | point Myth to Kernel source dir /usr/src/linux/include/ ?? |
[19:32:00] | kormoc: | mofu, /usr/src/linux usually is a symlink to the running kernel's sources |
[19:33:00] | kormoc: | mofu, /usr/src/linux -> /usr/src/linux-2.6.16-rc3 on my box |
[19:34:00] | mofu: | kormoc: yes, question is /usr/include/linux which Myth compiles dvb against |
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[19:34:00] | kormoc: | mofu, ooh... |
[19:35:00] | kormoc: | mofu, my is symlinked to /usr/src/linux/include/linux/ |
[19:36:00] | Anduin: | mofu – They are supposed to match with glibc there. |
[19:36:00] | mofu: | kormoc: thought as much, ubuntu/debian doesn't seem to update symlink |
[19:37:00] | kormoc: | mofu, well, as Anduin said, most distros do use them to match glibc, but in my experences, it doesn't seem to matter that much. |
[19:37:00] | Anduin: | except when it does |
[19:37:00] | kormoc: | as long as you don't change kernel major versions. |
[19:37:00] | kormoc: | Anduin, such as? |
[19:38:00] | Anduin: | LKML has several such stories. |
[19:39:00] | mofu: | in this case I am making major kernel version changes for latest dvb drivers |
[19:39:00] | kormoc: | Anduin, what generally usually breaks? |
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[19:41:00] | Beirdo: | gah, I want to eat steak! |
[19:41:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
[19:41:00] | Anduin: | kormoc – There is no generally, system calls that change, that glibc depends upon, can start failing. I'll admit that it often doesn't matter (long ago almost everyone just sym linked). Now if you are on a system where you get a new glibc build frequently... |
[19:42:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, Yum beef! Strawberry cows have the best steak! |
[19:42:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
[19:42:00] | Beirdo: | no solid food for a while yet |
[19:42:00] | Beirdo: | good thing I like V8 juice :0 |
[19:43:00] | kormoc: | Anduin, I build glibc rather much compaired to normal folk, and haven't had any issues at all yet, but maybe I'm just lucky |
[19:43:00] | laga: | Beirdo: i had schnitzel for dinner ;) |
[19:43:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, hehe. Why no solid foods? |
[19:43:00] | Beirdo: | kormoc: wisdom teeth pulled yesterday |
[19:43:00] | Anduin: | open wounds in the mouth |
[19:43:00] | ** kormoc griminces. ** | |
[19:43:00] | Beirdo: | laga, you bastard :) |
[19:43:00] | kormoc: | ouch. |
[19:43:00] | Beirdo: | actually, it's been pretty good so far |
[19:43:00] | Beirdo: | kinda like a low-level sinus headache |
[19:44:00] | kormoc: | suckyness |
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[19:44:00] | laga: | Beirdo: ;) |
[19:44:00] | Beirdo: | a lot better than it COULD be |
[19:44:00] | Pegsger is now known as Pegger | |
[19:44:00] | kormoc: | fair nuff |
[19:44:00] | kormoc: | when I get my done |
[19:44:00] | kormoc: | I'm gonna be out for a year, I swear. |
[19:45:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
[19:45:00] | Beirdo: | ya wuss :) |
[19:45:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, nah, they just need to be cut out of the bone :P |
[19:45:00] | Beirdo: | eek |
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[19:45:00] | Beirdo: | mine just needed yanking |
[19:45:00] | Beirdo: | took just over 20min for all 4 |
[19:46:00] | Spunx: | hello, my weekend is gone but i got installed mythv 0.19 on a pctv pro. :-D just 1 more problem. |
[19:46:00] | Spunx: | huh |
[19:46:00] | Spunx: | ah, my name was gone. |
[19:46:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, yeah, likely I'm gonna need multiple trips. |
[19:46:00] | laga: | Spunx: so? why youth is gone ebcause of mythtv! ;) |
[19:46:00] | Spunx: | your youth is gone because of mythtv :-o |
[19:47:00] | Beirdo: | kormoc, that just sucks |
[19:47:00] | Spunx: | laga, hi. |
[19:47:00] | laga: | Spunx: hi ;) |
[19:47:00] | Spunx: | laga, how are you? are you myth developer or user |
[19:47:00] | Spunx: | ? |
[19:47:00] | laga: | Spunx: i'm pretty fine, what about you? i'm an user |
[19:48:00] | Spunx: | ok nice. me 2. |
[19:49:00] | Spunx: | i am fine, i have headache because of myth and cat /dev/hda1 > /dev/dsp or something i dunno |
[19:49:00] | Spunx: | anywayyy, duude laga .. One questioni. |
[19:49:00] | kormoc: | Spunx, why, oh why would you want to listen to noise? |
[19:50:00] | Spunx: | lol, it was a test. |
[19:50:00] | Spunx: | but i couldn't stop it |
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[19:50:00] | laga: | Spunx: just ask away |
[19:51:00] | Spunx: | ok. **drums** this is the problem.. in card setup you can set vbi0 and video0 and also /dev/audio |
[19:51:00] | Spunx: | the tv card connects to soundcard through minijack and goes to line in |
[19:51:00] | sphing_: | does anyone have a good transcoding script? |
[19:52:00] | Spunx: | tvtime can hear the sound but mythtv doesn't |
[19:52:00] | Spunx: | i am going crazy! |
[19:52:00] | Beirdo: | mixer settings |
[19:52:00] | Spunx: | and these are very annoying to: 2006-02–19 20:41:03.141 rebuffering (1 32768) |
[19:52:00] | Spunx: | 2006-02–19 20:41:05.236 NVP: prebuffering pause |
[19:52:00] | Spunx: | 2006-02–19 20:41:05.282 rebuffering (1 32768) |
[19:52:00] | Spunx: | 2006-02–19 20:41:05.722 WriteAudio: buffer underrun |
[19:52:00] | Spunx: | 2006-02–19 20:41:05.786 rebuffering (32678 32768) |
[19:53:00] | kormoc: | sphing_, for? |
[19:53:00] | Spunx: | Beirdo, what do you mean? |
[19:53:00] | sphing_: | well I finally got another backend running... so I'm going to start transcoding alot more |
[19:53:00] | laga: | Spunx: nuvexport? :> |
[19:53:00] | Beirdo: | you did read the documentation, right? |
[19:53:00] | Spunx: | laga, huh! |
[19:53:00] | kormoc: | Spunx, read the section in the docs about setting up the audio, you failed to do that correctly |
[19:54:00] | Spunx: | kormoc, ok thank you. :-) &*bows&* |
[19:54:00] | laga: | Spunx: sorry, i ment sphing_! |
[19:54:00] | Spunx: | *no not that kind of bow* |
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[19:54:00] | laga: | sphing_: why would you need a transcoding script? mythbackend can automagically transcode |
[19:54:00] | sphing_: | laga: but nuvexport isnt automated right? |
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[19:54:00] | laga: | sphing_: no. mythtranscode is, if used together with the jobqueue |
[19:55:00] | sphing: | laga: ... what I want is to queue up some old recordings and have them transcodeinto a directory |
[19:55:00] | laga: | sphing: that's probably possible with user jobs |
[19:55:00] | sphing: | ... sorry I meant user jobs |
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[20:00:00] | sphing_: | ... stupid vpn |
[20:00:00] | sphing_: | laga, did you say something about a user job? |
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[20:01:00] | laga: | sphing_: nope, sorry, i've played with that |
[20:01:00] | sanmarcos: | will my schedule recordings still record if I dont have the frontend running but the backbend is? |
[20:01:00] | laga: | i have *never* played with that, i meant |
[20:01:00] | laga: | sanmarcos: yep |
[20:01:00] | sanmarcos: | thanks |
[20:02:00] | harryk1977: | anyone attempting to use a knoppmyth frontend-cd based connecting to myth install on backend – and having network protocol mismatch errors? |
[20:02:00] | Spunx: | kormoc, guys. i can't find the documentation i need. |
[20:02:00] | Spunx: | lol omg i am too tired |
[20:03:00] | kormoc: | http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-7.html#ss7.2 |
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[20:05:00] | Spunx: | Where does the dsp sound come from? |
[20:05:00] | Spunx: | doesn't matter if i do ALSA:default or /dev/dsp |
[20:06:00] | Spunx: | fuser -v /dev/dsp |
[20:06:00] | Spunx: | USER PID ACCESS COMMAND |
[20:06:00] | Spunx: | /dev/dsp: root 15413 F.... mythfrontend |
[20:07:00] | Jasper: | anybody here ever had problems with a black screen with xvmc |
[20:08:00] | Spunx: | turn your monitor on |
[20:08:00] | Spunx: | ok bad joke, :-) |
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[20:08:00] | Spunx: | 2006-02–19 21:08:11.982 NVP: prebuffering pause |
[20:09:00] | coochan: | hey y'all |
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[20:09:00] | Spunx: | hi coochan |
[20:09:00] | Spunx: | 2006-02–19 21:09:48.917 rebuffering (4097 32768) |
[20:10:00] | kormoc: | Spunx, dsp is the oss style of sound, alsa is the alsa style of sound |
[20:10:00] | kormoc: | Spunx, likely the oss style is emulated by the alsa style, so they'd be both the same. |
[20:11:00] | ** nasa wonders if anyone knows anything about mythfrontend freezing.... ** | |
[20:11:00] | coochan: | nasa: that's probably too vague |
[20:11:00] | coochan: | nasa: just random lockup or when you do something in particular? |
[20:12:00] | Spunx: | nasa, yes. it can freeze because you set the quality to the video too high |
[20:12:00] | harryk1977: | i'm out |
[20:12:00] | harryk1977: | thanks asll |
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[20:13:00] | coochan: | I just upgrade from 0.18.1 to 0.19 — however, mythbackend now crashing on startup with SIGILL |
[20:13:00] | nasa: | coochan: It happens with a lot of things, I guess not totally random – but not determalistic either |
[20:14:00] | nasa: | Spunx: I don't follow.... (being that I am kind of slow) |
[20:14:00] | coochan: | nasa: try to identify something that causes it to crash consistently |
[20:14:00] | coochan: | nasa: Spunx is saying that if you're crashing on watching tv you maybe have your video quality / resolution settings too high |
[20:14:00] | Spunx: | nasa, i had lockups too in my case it was because i was setting the resolution too high |
[20:14:00] | coochan: | strace for me just before SIGILL says: |
[20:14:00] | coochan: | ioctl(8, MATROXFB_TVOQUERYCTRL or VIDIOC_QUERYCTRL, 0xbfe03e70) = 0 |
[20:15:00] | Spunx: | and maybe that alsa was compiled in the kernel |
[20:15:00] | nasa: | coochan: going to the program guide is 95% sure to freeze it |
[20:15:00] | coochan: | nasa: which version? |
[20:15:00] | nasa: | 0.19 from svn |
[20:15:00] | coochan: | nasa: did it used to work before? |
[20:15:00] | coochan: | I know there were some changes in PiP for 0.19 |
[20:15:00] | nasa: | It never freezes while I am watching tv and yes it worked ok with 0.18 |
[20:16:00] | coochan: | nasa: ouch... can't run 0.19 yet so I can't help much more |
[20:16:00] | coochan: | nasa: feels like a PIP issue |
[20:16:00] | Spunx: | pip? |
[20:16:00] | Beirdo: | OMG |
[20:16:00] | nasa: | picture-in-picture |
[20:16:00] | Beirdo: | my dentist just called to see how I was doing |
[20:16:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
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[20:16:00] | laga: | did you shpeak to him? |
[20:16:00] | laga: | ;) |
[20:17:00] | coochan: | Beirdo: must be desparate for $$ |
[20:17:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, you should have just grunted :P |
[20:17:00] | Beirdo: | he already got the $$$ |
[20:17:00] | coochan: | its never enuf |
[20:17:00] | nasa: | coochan: so what are you having issues with? |
[20:17:00] | coochan: | ioctl(8, MATROXFB_TVOQUERYCTRL or VIDIOC_QUERYCTRL, 0xbfe03e70) = 0 ==> SIGILL |
[20:17:00] | kormoc: | coochan, $1,000,000 after taxes would set me up for life |
[20:17:00] | Spunx: | sound! |
[20:18:00] | coochan: | maybe mythbackend thinks I have a matrox card ? (I don't) |
[20:18:00] | Beirdo: | hmmm, so should I make the cauliflower soup first, or the butternut squash? :) |
[20:18:00] | coochan: | maybe this is due to xvmc or something |
[20:18:00] | kormoc: | cauliflower! |
[20:19:00] | Beirdo: | the good thing about squash is that they don't go bad as quickly as cauliflower :) |
[20:19:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
[20:19:00] | kormoc: | coochan, why would mythbackend care about any videocard you have? |
[20:19:00] | stuarta: | I'd have the cauliflower before the drugs wear off. |
[20:19:00] | xpis: | Beirdo: so.. are you making use of all the shows you've been making myth record for the past months? |
[20:19:00] | kormoc: | cauliflower rox |
[20:19:00] | coochan: | kormoc: not sure... just thinking aloud what is causing my SIGILL crash |
[20:20:00] | Beirdo: | xpis, but of course |
[20:20:00] | Beirdo: | I love cauliflower |
[20:20:00] | Beirdo: | and it's a pureed soup, so I can definitely eat it |
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[20:22:00] | Beirdo: | well, I guess I should go putter around the kitchen |
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[20:22:00] | coochan: | I put the whole log of mythbackend --verbose all at http://pastebin.ca/42149 |
[20:22:00] | jack2433: | Hi, I got the TV working in mythtv but I have 1 problem; the sound. I get sound when I play music and existing videos in mythtv but I can not get sound with the tv tuner. My tv tuner card has audio out, so I put the cord from the tv card audio out to the computer input. I read somewhere that there are settings that you have to select to allow the input to be played. How can I do this? I am... |
[20:22:00] | jack2433: | ...using knoppmyth. |
[20:23:00] | coochan: | jack2433: which tv tuner card is it? |
[20:24:00] | jack2433: | AverTV Studio |
[20:24:00] | coochan: | jack2433: no joy; I've only tried hauppauge |
[20:25:00] | Anduin: | jack2433 – Have you tried messing around with your volume levels while in live TV? (with some external mixer util) |
[20:25:00] | jack2433: | whats the command for that again? |
[20:25:00] | jack2433: | or letter |
[20:25:00] | coochan: | [] |
[20:25:00] | kormoc: | jack2433, read the secion on sound in the mythtv docs |
[20:25:00] | nasa: | coochan: has your 0.19 setup ever worked? |
[20:25:00] | Anduin: | something like kmix or amixer |
[20:25:00] | coochan: | nasa: nope |
[20:26:00] | coochan: | nasa: i'm too lazy to run svn versions |
[20:26:00] | nasa: | coochan: have you tried after a cold boot? |
[20:26:00] | kormoc: | coochan, at this point, strace/gdb would be required likely |
[20:26:00] | coochan: | nasa: hmm, no, but I shall |
[20:26:00] | coochan: | strace/gdb would be no problem... let me reboot it first |
[20:27:00] | nasa: | coochan: make sure it's "cold" |
[20:27:00] | coochan: | nasa: myokay |
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[20:28:00] | coochan: | hmm, I wonder if I built this with debugging symbols |
[20:28:00] | coochan: | if this works, I can put up mythtv 0.19/debian/sarge packages (temporarily) if anyone wants them |
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[20:29:00] | stuarta: | coochan: not on gentoo are you? |
[20:29:00] | coochan: | nope |
[20:29:00] | coochan: | I'm a debian developer; vanilla debian |
[20:29:00] | simcop2387: | has anyone been able to get the internal dvd player to work in 0.19? |
[20:29:00] | simcop2387: | or is it not in there? |
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[20:30:00] | kormoc: | simcop2387, it's part of the mythdvd plugin |
[20:31:00] | simcop2387: | kormoc: to use it i just put Internal as the player right? |
[20:31:00] | kormoc: | simcop2387, yup |
[20:31:00] | Anduin: | simcop2387 – In SVN, and still being patched. |
[20:31:00] | Led-Hed: | where can I find more information on mythgame? specificaly on displaying roms? |
[20:31:00] | simcop2387: | hmm i'm just getting a blank screen |
[20:31:00] | coochan: | in other news, my 2.6.15 kernel upgrade went smooth, apart from some wrestling with lirc a bit |
[20:31:00] | coochan: | lirc is so ghetto |
[20:31:00] | ** Led-Hed likes lirc ** | |
[20:32:00] | coochan: | I don't dislike it per se :) |
[20:32:00] | bertboerland: | a bitchy getho e thinks. being a mythtv newbee, and a linux sr, lirc still took most of the time of my mythtv install |
[20:32:00] | Led-Hed: | I love the new Key Editor in 0.19. been waiting for this feature since 0.13 |
[20:33:00] | coochan: | bertboerland: yah |
[20:33:00] | Led-Hed: | once you have a lircd.conf and a lircrc for mythtv its easy. |
[20:33:00] | coochan: | the lirc-source packages in debian don't work with new kernels either (not lircs fault I guess) |
[20:33:00] | bertboerland: | everything is easy if you get it and have done it. |
[20:34:00] | Led-Hed: | bertboerland, all I'm saying is, if you've already mapped keys then there isnt much to do.. |
[20:34:00] | bertboerland: | anybody seen this before http://willy.boerland.com/myblog/still_some_problems_with_my_pvr |
[20:35:00] | coochan: | SIGILL — no change after cold boot |
[20:35:00] | nasa: | damn |
[20:35:00] | mofu: | ok, installed Nvidia 7676 from Nvidia package, compiled Myth w/ XvMC support . . . .no love . . . |
[20:35:00] | kormoc: | coochan, strace/gdb! :) |
[20:35:00] | coochan: | 0xb7bb4e2a in Channel::SetColourAttribute () from /usr/lib/libmythtv-0.19.so.0 |
[20:35:00] | kormoc: | mofu, what's the error? |
[20:36:00] | coochan: | kormoc: should I pastebin the whole backtrace? |
[20:36:00] | mofu: | just bombs the xserrver . . . . |
[20:36:00] | coochan: | mofu: there should be an XFree error or something |
[20:36:00] | kormoc: | coochan, likely the last bunch of lines before the SIGILL (SIGKILL?) |
[20:37:00] | coochan: | kormoc: http://pastebin.ca/42153 — I think it's all there |
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[20:38:00] | Led-Hed: | anyone here use mythgame? |
[20:38:00] | coochan: | it's clearly trying to set the contrast for some reason |
[20:38:00] | mofu: | coochan: Fatal server error: |
[20:38:00] | mofu: | Caught signal 11. Server aborting |
[20:38:00] | kormoc: | coochan, what's your tv tuner? |
[20:38:00] | kormoc: | mofu, should be something above that |
[20:39:00] | kormoc: | mofu, or in the x log |
[20:39:00] | coochan: | kormoc: I have 2 hauppauge 350s |
[20:39:00] | Spunx: | ok so in card setup you should have /dev/dsp and in frontend you should have ALSA:default right? then why doesn't it work? |
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[20:39:00] | sanmarcos: | is there a way to make Myth use ALSA? |
[20:39:00] | bertboerland: | retry: anybody seen this before http://willy.boerland.com/myblog/still_some_problems_with_my_pvr |
[20:39:00] | kormoc: | coochan, might want to play with setting the contrast/saturation/brightness/colour with ivtvctl |
[20:39:00] | mofu: | *** If unresolved symbols were reported above, they might not |
[20:39:00] | mofu: | *** be the reason for the server aborting. |
[20:39:00] | coochan: | sanmarcos: yes, see the wiki |
[20:39:00] | mofu: | ??? |
[20:39:00] | mofu: | kormoc: this is from X log |
[20:40:00] | kormoc: | bertboerland, no, we havnt', and that's not really enough info to figure out what's wrong |
[20:40:00] | sanmarcos: | coochan: will do, thanks sweetie |
[20:40:00] | coochan: | kormoc: oh? to see if that crashes it ? |
[20:40:00] | kormoc: | mofu, above that |
[20:40:00] | kormoc: | coochan, yeah, that's the idea. myth calls the same things it calls in theory |
[20:41:00] | coochan: | lets see |
[20:41:00] | coochan: | what's the GDB command to show local variables, btw? |
[20:41:00] | coochan: | it feels like something unexpected is in the database |
[20:41:00] | kormoc: | coochan, print var perhaps? |
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[20:42:00] | kormoc: | coochan, bit in anycase, SELECT DISTINCT contrast FROM channel; will show you all the contrast settings in your channel db |
[20:42:00] | coochan: | kormoc: right... I wonder if it will skip setting the contrast at all if not set; I certainly never put in any contrast settings (on purpose:) |
[20:42:00] | mofu: | kormoc: http://pastebin.com/563239 |
[20:43:00] | _russ: | hi all |
[20:43:00] | kormoc: | coochan, nah, it defaults to a value |
[20:43:00] | _russ: | i have no hair left lol |
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[20:43:00] | coochan: | SELECT DISTINCT contrast FROM channel ==> 32768 |
[20:44:00] | coochan: | must be the default |
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[20:44:00] | wole: | evning all |
[20:44:00] | kormoc: | mofu, xvinfo shows things that appear correct? |
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[20:44:00] | _russ: | has any one had mythtv tuning problems |
[20:45:00] | coochan: | mofu: ew, X11 SIG 11, nasty |
[20:46:00] | jams: | Captain_Murdoch- any plans to but the program finder in the OSD? |
[20:46:00] | sanmarcos: | is there a way I can see the advatanges/changelog of current svn? |
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[20:47:00] | _russ: | i can tune dvb card in kaffeine but myth dont want to know |
[20:47:00] | Drag0n: | i am trying to compile firewire support into mythtv and no mater what i do, short of hacking the configure file to force a yes (then it breaks during compile) i still se no on the input list for firewire |
[20:48:00] | coochan: | > ivtvctl --set-ctrl=contrast=0 |
[20:48:00] | coochan: | ioctl: VIDIOC_S_CTRL |
[20:48:00] | coochan: | ioctl: VIDIOC_S_CTRL success |
[20:48:00] | Drag0n: | i am running slackware 10.2 and the system sees the box and everything is working at the kernel level |
[20:48:00] | coochan: | > ivtvctl --set-ctrl=contrast=32768 |
[20:48:00] | coochan: | ioctl: VIDIOC_S_CTRL failed |
[20:48:00] | coochan: | hmm |
[20:48:00] | human39: | I am having issues with plugin's installing to the correct path, even if I define --prefix=/usr/local |
[20:49:00] | coochan: | is it setting the contrast to the value in the channel table? |
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[20:49:00] | kormoc: | coochan, I would assume so, but perhaps its %blah |
[20:50:00] | mofu: | kormoc: xvinfo: http://pastebin.com/563251 |
[20:50:00] | coochan: | what is the contrast you use, anyone? |
[20:51:00] | KC: | Just upgraded to 19. VolumeUp and down stopped working in tv & video playback – but still works in music playback. Any thoughts? |
[20:51:00] | kormoc: | coochan, mine is set the same as yours in the db |
[20:51:00] | _russ: | is there no one with tunning probs ? |
[20:51:00] | mofu: | kormoc: also xdpyinfo: http://pastebin.com/563255 |
[20:52:00] | kormoc: | mofu, xvinfo looks good |
[20:52:00] | coochan: | seems like the max for me now is 127 |
[20:52:00] | coochan: | I'll use that instead |
[20:52:00] | coochan: | I wonder if something changed in the new ivtv... yet mythtv was working on this same kernel at 0.18.1... mysterious |
[20:53:00] | kormoc: | mofu, looks good too.. disabling xvmc works fine? |
[20:53:00] | sanmarcos: | is there a myth icon? |
[20:54:00] | coochan: | no joy, blah |
[20:55:00] | mofu: | kormoc: yeah, standard plyback is fine |
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[20:55:00] | _russ: | version 0.19 what are lnb setting for universal lnb if i put as it says in Hz then when i scan it says out of range ??? |
[20:55:00] | kormoc: | mofu, can you try mplayer with xvmc and see if it borks? |
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[20:56:00] | mofu: | mplayer quit with -vo error, not sure if standard ubuntu package supports it or not, how to check?? |
[20:56:00] | jack2433: | I got my sound working, thanks guys |
[20:56:00] | jack2433: | Now my remote.... |
[20:56:00] | jack2433: | lol |
[20:57:00] | coochan: | jack2433: yay! |
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[20:59:00] | fir3st0rm: | xris: could you include my mythweb skin to svn? http://hamsta.net/mythtv/files/themes/mythweb . . . b0218.tar.gz |
[21:00:00] | Drag0n: | can anyone in here help with a firewire issue in 0.19? |
[21:01:00] | mofu: | kormoc: mplayer says: error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device |
[21:02:00] | mofu: | usage is mplayer -vo xvmc dvb:// . . . . . ?? |
[21:02:00] | wole: | has anyone put together an optimised mythfrontend vmware machine? |
[21:02:00] | kormoc: | mofu, yeah, that's odd... would think there's a lib somewhere that's screwy |
[21:02:00] | coochan: | mofu: try it on the command line |
[21:02:00] | mofu: | coochan: try what?? |
[21:03:00] | coochan: | mofu: oh wait, you are the one with the xserver crash right? |
[21:03:00] | mofu: | yep |
[21:03:00] | coochan: | mofu: I would isolate the xvmc... |
[21:03:00] | kormoc: | coochan, he did :P |
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[21:03:00] | coochan: | if you can get mplayer working in x11 with -vo output then you're good |
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[21:03:00] | coochan: | it kinda feels like a bug in your x11 driver |
[21:04:00] | kormoc: | coochan, the nvidia driver, which works for a ton of people :) |
[21:04:00] | coochan: | but I'm not real familiar with xvmc |
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[21:04:00] | coochan: | well, I'm just saying, its not a mythtv issue if it doesn't work in mplayer either, right? |
[21:05:00] | kormoc: | coochan, correct |
[21:05:00] | kormoc: | well, it sort of is |
[21:05:00] | kormoc: | mplayer just dies, myth locks |
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[21:07:00] | xris: | fir3st0rm: please attach it to a ticket in trac so there's a record. |
[21:08:00] | fir3st0rm: | xris: ok |
[21:08:00] | jack2433: | My remote is being reconized but what is the file for the remote's buttons? |
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[21:11:00] | coochan: | ok, this is a possible clue |
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[21:11:00] | coochan: | mythtv-setup is crashing with SIGILL in a totally unrelated place |
[21:11:00] | coochan: | hmm |
[21:11:00] | coochan: | is a device permission set wrong somewhere? |
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[21:13:00] | kormoc: | coochan, perhaps, but shouldn't cause that |
[21:13:00] | coochan: | # |
[21:13:00] | coochan: | 0xb70994fc in DisplayResScreen::SetAspectRatio (this=0xbfdb26e0, a=-1) |
[21:13:00] | coochan: | # |
[21:13:00] | coochan: | at DisplayResScreen.cpp:55 |
[21:13:00] | coochan: | cf http://pastebin.ca/42155 |
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[21:14:00] | coochan: | hmm |
[21:14:00] | coochan: | I wonder if I should try backing out to kernel 2.6.14 ? |
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[21:16:00] | coochan: | ooh, div by negative? |
[21:17:00] | drdaz: | ahoy there.. I'm looking for a way to get mythgallery to properly display photos on my widescreen CRT. I'm trying to use this patch with the current 0.19 release: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/engine? . . . list=mythtv. Perhaps unsurprisingly, it isnt compiling. Any suggestions? |
[21:17:00] | drdaz: | the patch was written in June 2004, so.. |
[21:17:00] | drdaz: | its old |
[21:17:00] | coochan: | drdaz: answer: don't use that patch? |
[21:17:00] | drdaz: | got another one? |
[21:18:00] | coochan: | no sorry |
[21:18:00] | drdaz: | lol |
[21:18:00] | drdaz: | np |
[21:18:00] | coochan: | drdaz: it doesn't display properly on your screen? |
[21:18:00] | coochan: | drdaz: is there a mythgallery bug filed? |
[21:18:00] | drdaz: | nah everybody gets stretched |
[21:19:00] | coochan: | drdaz: but everytyihng else is fine? |
[21:19:00] | drdaz: | its a known issue I believe |
[21:19:00] | drdaz: | but yeah everything else is good |
[21:19:00] | coochan: | drdaz: I would suggest looking thru the tracker for this bug if it's known... |
[21:19:00] | coochan: | there might be a patch in there too |
[21:19:00] | nasa: | So how do I troubleshoot X going to 99%? |
[21:19:00] | Juski: | looked into that myself – 16:9 display of pics in mythgallery |
[21:20:00] | drdaz: | mythgallery is the only plugin which doesnt adjust according to the DisplaySize var in xorg.conf |
[21:20:00] | drdaz: | ok? find anything Juski? |
[21:20:00] | Juski: | nasa: ask or beg for help on an ATI linux forum |
[21:20:00] | Juski: | drdaz: I more or less understand the code it uses to display the pictures |
[21:20:00] | coochan: | man... |
[21:21:00] | drdaz: | ok |
[21:21:00] | coochan: | now I'm starting to doubt these sources |
[21:21:00] | Juski: | when I get a new vga card for my spare box I'll dig into it |
[21:21:00] | drdaz: | :D n1 |
[21:21:00] | coochan: | this must be a bad build or something |
[21:21:00] | kormoc: | coochan, I use 2.6.14 for for my mythbox, upgrading it causes no end of issues |
[21:22:00] | drdaz: | Juski: dunno if you've seen this thread, but.. |
[21:22:00] | drdaz: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/72998 |
[21:22:00] | Juski: | yeh my minimyth box is on a 2.6.15 kernel now – wakeonlan usually doesn't work after a shutdown now :-( |
[21:22:00] | drdaz: | people have previously hacked out a solution |
[21:22:00] | kormoc: | nasa, what videocard are you using? |
[21:23:00] | KC: | Anyone had a problem with volume using .19 and pvr350? |
[21:23:00] | KC: | volume up/down works in music, but not tv or video... |
[21:24:00] | coochan: | kormoc: oh? |
[21:24:00] | Spunx: | yea, i noticed. |
[21:24:00] | Spunx: | but then again i have no sound at all. :D |
[21:24:00] | kormoc: | coochan, I've also suck to ivtv 0.4.0 cause the others have caused issues as well |
[21:24:00] | coochan: | kormoc: is it possible this is xvmc related? |
[21:24:00] | kormoc: | coochan, doubtful, but you can try disabling it |
[21:24:00] | drdaz: | coochan: I had troubles with Bad Page errors in .15... they are alsa related |
[21:24:00] | coochan: | damn.. |
[21:25:00] | drdaz: | not sure if thats what you're seeing.. joined after you'd described it |
[21:25:00] | coochan: | given that I'm getting SIGILL in mythbackend, mythtv-setup and mythfrontend, it feels like not just ivtv issue |
[21:25:00] | coochan: | all over the place |
[21:25:00] | coochan: | drdaz: http://pastebin.ca/42155 |
[21:25:00] | kormoc: | bad page errors I've had in .15 and .16 were related to memory subsystem changes, and has affected anything using kernel memory (nvidia, alsa, etc) |
[21:26:00] | coochan: | well, SIGILL — illegal instructions |
[21:26:00] | coochan: | different symptom right? |
[21:26:00] | kormoc: | coochan, yeah |
[21:27:00] | coochan: | too many variables... time to start isolating |
[21:28:00] | nasa: | kormoc: I am using an ATI 9800DV |
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[21:28:00] | kormoc: | nasa, ahh, gonna have to talk to the ati guys then, aye |
[21:29:00] | sona: | is it possible to take a stillpic in mythtv 0.19 ? |
[21:29:00] | sona: | um whats the english word, is it still ? |
[21:29:00] | laga: | sona: hit 'pause'? |
[21:29:00] | coochan: | sona: a screenshot? |
[21:30:00] | coochan: | sona: IIRC, it depends on what video output method you're using |
[21:30:00] | coochan: | sona: for instance, 'xv' output doesn't allow screenshots |
[21:30:00] | drdaz: | I've been thinking about writing a remote control for myth for pocketPC btw... I was looking at the telnet interface as a possible route but it seems not to offer the full featureset I'd need. I assume it's being developed further? |
[21:30:00] | sona: | but there are no keybindings to take a screenshot ? |
[21:31:00] | cindy: | is anyone using knoppmyth |
[21:31:00] | sona: | for the mythfrontend |
[21:31:00] | coochan: | blah, same results in 2.6.14 and 2.6.15 |
[21:32:00] | coochan: | sona: I don't think so.. you need to use a different program like gimp |
[21:32:00] | sona: | ok |
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[21:32:00] | coochan: | drdaz: I would assume it's being developed further, yes, it's prtty new |
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[21:33:00] | coochan: | drdaz: best way would probably be write a little Qt app that links libmyth... it doesn't look that hard |
[21:33:00] | coochan: | drdaz: you're using bluetooth or wifi or something? |
[21:33:00] | drdaz: | any idea if there are documented plans anywhere? |
[21:33:00] | drdaz: | was thinking using wifi |
[21:33:00] | drdaz: | or well... TCP |
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[21:35:00] | coochan: | drdaz: did you search the tracker and the developer mailing lists? |
[21:36:00] | drdaz: | hmm no... that would probably be a good place to look :p |
[21:36:00] | drdaz: | just spewed it here as it came to mind :) |
[21:36:00] | coochan: | a program to run interactive telnet commands is pretty nasty |
[21:36:00] | coochan: | IMHO |
[21:36:00] | drdaz: | nasty in what way? |
[21:37:00] | drdaz: | nasty as in ugly solution? or a PITA to write? |
[21:37:00] | coochan: | unlikely to ever be very robust |
[21:37:00] | drdaz: | ahh ok |
[21:37:00] | drdaz: | I'm... not sure why that would be |
[21:37:00] | coochan: | if it can emit infrared then it can just be like any other remote control |
[21:37:00] | lwizardl: | hi i just installed knoppixmythtv last night so i'm trying to find out how to do a few things. can i get help for that version here also? |
[21:38:00] | drdaz: | as long as myth's interface is well defined.. I cant see the issue |
[21:38:00] | drdaz: | but time will tell I guess :p |
[21:38:00] | coochan: | runnign interactive telnet commands, unlike running library calls is not robust because its harder to deal with all the possible error cases |
[21:38:00] | wole: | lwizardl: i have used knoppmyth |
[21:38:00] | coochan: | also it's subject to mionr changes in the textual output; whereas library call chaqnges are usually controlled tighter, e.g., library version number changse |
[21:39:00] | coochan: | I doubt the telnte interface is well defined, since it's so new |
[21:39:00] | lwizardl: | wole: ok |
[21:39:00] | jams: | heh two hours wasted because I had gd bud not php-gd installed |
[21:39:00] | drdaz: | hmm true |
[21:39:00] | Led-Hed: | How does MythTV's new Internal DVD player compare to Xine? |
[21:39:00] | coochan: | also it's subject to different languagsw (we hope) |
[21:39:00] | jams: | Led-Hed- doesn't work as well |
[21:39:00] | Led-Hed: | jams, thanks |
[21:39:00] | jams: | it's getting there, but still has a ways to go |
[21:39:00] | Led-Hed: | does it support DVD menus? |
[21:40:00] | jams: | most menus |
[21:40:00] | coochan: | I like my version of the mythtv dvd player: a shell script that reads the number of titles on the DVD, and runs mplayer with the right args |
[21:40:00] | coochan: | but it's because I hate DVD menus |
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[21:40:00] | jams: | I have a few dvds that have problems with the menu |
[21:40:00] | sandos: | I assume myth requires more or less standard PAL/NTSC resolutions? and 976x260 wont work? ;) |
[21:40:00] | Led-Hed: | My biggest complaint with Xine, is that I cant get it to Fast-Rewind. Only jump |
[21:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | ummmmm 976x260? I've never seen that one :) |
[21:40:00] | coochan: | sandos: that's probvably more up to your video capture card and your video output card |
[21:41:00] | sandos: | heh |
[21:41:00] | sandos: | its working already |
[21:41:00] | coochan: | sandos: myth doesn't care too much |
[21:41:00] | sandos: | ok |
[21:41:00] | sandos: | its the modeline I use for my TV currently |
[21:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | Weird :) |
[21:41:00] | coochan: | sandos: is it like an doulbe-cinemascope TV ? |
[21:41:00] | lwizardl: | wole: did you ever try to get usb hd drives to auto mount ? I want to store stuff i don't want kids to find on a usb drive |
[21:42:00] | Freman: | Ok, so my mythtv is great, my picture is great... but my analog tuner makes a high frequency sound in amplitude to the audio... Mythtv needs audio filters )C: |
[21:42:00] | sandos: | my gfx-card doesnt seem to support interlace so I have to use doubling on the y-axis.. since X doesnt want to emulate interlace in software =) |
[21:42:00] | sandos: | nomego, regular TV, crappy gfx-card |
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[21:42:00] | coochan: | thats an apect ratio of 3.75:1 |
[21:42:00] | coochan: | sandos: you might want to rthink that modeline |
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[21:42:00] | sandos: | if I add "interlace" on my modeline the screen shows upper half, bottom half every other update instead of even/odd fields |
[21:43:00] | coochan: | woah, that's whatyo're doing |
[21:43:00] | coochan: | so it's dividing the X by 2 ? |
[21:43:00] | wole: | lwizardl: nope, but it's based on debian – you should be able to modify the fstab file in the etc dirrectory. (why are you using removable media – should't you be using file permissions?) |
[21:43:00] | sandos: | coochan, I constructed non-interlace modelines from regular PAL modelines |
[21:44:00] | sandos: | but yes, I will also decrease the horizontal resolution.. its too much for the TV anyway.. gets blurry around the edges but sharp in the middle |
[21:44:00] | briand: | i had something strange happen to my mythtv setup yesterday — 1 minute, and 45 seconds into a recording that started at 7:00pm, it appears that the aspect ratio changed from 4:3 to 16:9, and letterboxed the 4:3 recording within the 16:9 frame .. so the bulk of the recording is 4:3 inside a 16:9 inside a 4:3 — or i get a 27" picture centered on a 32" screen. `ivtvctl -C` indicates that the aspect ratio of the card is at 4:3 .. |
[21:44:00] | briand: | . |
[21:44:00] | lwizardl: | wole but would that block file listings also? |
[21:44:00] | wole: | lwizardl: ooh, automount – like hotplug? |
[21:44:00] | briand: | <-- puzzled |
[21:44:00] | lwizardl: | yeah |
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[21:45:00] | wole: | lwizardl: nope, you can deny access to a directory completely – just don;t let them get your root password ;) |
[21:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | 12~ |
[21:45:00] | dmachi: | how do you tell myth to use the internal dvd player, mine is still using an external player. Is it as simple as removing the command from mythdvd's setup? |
[21:46:00] | briand: | dmachi: almost. replace it with "internal" |
[21:46:00] | dmachi: | briand: thanks :) |
[21:46:00] | dmachi: | briand: should i do that i guess is a better question ? |
[21:46:00] | mofu: | does the internal dvd player support dvd-menus?? |
[21:46:00] | briand: | dmachi: if you don't like it, you can always put the other line back in there. :) |
[21:47:00] | laga: | mofu: in SVN, yes. more or less. |
[21:47:00] | wole: | lwizardl: i started with knoppmyth, but i got annoyed with it after a while – i now use fc4. www.wilsonnet.com has an excelent install howto |
[21:47:00] | mofu: | not in 0.19? |
[21:47:00] | sandos: | coochan, I assume I would have to make my own theme for this very low resolution, or? |
[21:47:00] | jams: | nope not in .19 |
[21:47:00] | briand: | anybody have any clues on my video query ?? |
[21:47:00] | jams: | coulple days after the release it was added |
[21:47:00] | jams: | at least for menu support |
[21:48:00] | mofu: | k |
[21:48:00] | Freman: | HEHE 0.19.1 (c: |
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[21:50:00] | dmachi: | briand: well it just goes to a black screen for me (that i can't escape out of, but can ctrl-tab from), so I guess that answer's my question for right now. |
[21:51:00] | dmachi: | dev-: are you here? |
[21:54:00] | Beirdo: | yum |
[21:54:00] | lwizardl: | wole: ok i'll probably move on after i get used to mythtv and use ubuntu as the distro for the os. But i'm current;y using a HP 2.2ghz computer its got a 160gb hd and 2 hauppage capture cards |
[21:54:00] | Beirdo: | soup's too hot, but quite good |
[21:55:00] | briand: | hiya, Beirdo, how's it goin? |
[21:55:00] | Beirdo: | not bad |
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[21:55:00] | wole: | lwizardl: that might be a bit tight with 2 cards.. but you should be ok |
[21:55:00] | Beirdo: | just eating some (homemade) cauliflower soup |
[21:55:00] | briand: | cool.. no problems? pain? |
[21:56:00] | Beirdo: | none so far |
[21:56:00] | kormoc: | Mmm... Lean Pocket Turkey and Brocolli, A banana, and a vanilla cream soda. |
[21:56:00] | briand: | good deal.. |
[21:56:00] | Beirdo: | it's just like a low-level sinus headache |
[21:56:00] | Beirdo: | I can deal with this |
[21:56:00] | briand: | say, how well versed are you with video standards, etc? |
[21:57:00] | lwizardl: | anyone here do hdtv caps and keep them as mpg's and not convert to like xvid/divx |
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[21:57:00] | mofu: | lwizardl: you mean not transcoding HD?? yeah |
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[21:58:00] | lwizardl: | mofu, what capture card(s) do you use? and whats your computer specs? |
[21:58:00] | laga: | Beirdo: hey! you run some minimal gentoo install on your asterisk box, right? did you do anything special to trim it down other than playing with USE flags? |
[21:59:00] | Beirdo: | nah, that was it |
[21:59:00] | lwizardl: | mofu, becuase I read to do caps in 1080p i'd need to stay with atleast 3ghz cpu with 800mhz fsb, 512mb ram, |
[22:00:00] | laga: | Beirdo: k, thanks. i'm currently doing a gentoo install for one of my frontends. i hope i can get smooth playback by using gentoo ;) |
[22:00:00] | Beirdo: | I doubt it will make any difference at all |
[22:00:00] | Beirdo: | but if it makes you happy, go for it |
[22:01:00] | mofu: | lwizardl: hd3000, 2.8G Cel-D, 512MB, FX5200 |
[22:01:00] | mofu: | lwizardl: no such thing as 1080p to capture, you can arguably playback at 1080p . . . . |
[22:02:00] | lwizardl: | only a 2.8 hmm was res you cap? 480i -> 1080i? |
[22:02:00] | laga: | Beirdo: well, i'm actually afraid it won't help :/ but hey, if it works, it'd be great :) |
[22:03:00] | mofu: | lwizardl: when you say capture you really mean record, right?? |
[22:03:00] | lwizardl: | yeah record the video being played throught the mythtv box |
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[22:03:00] | mofu: | my box handle 1080i streams OK, slightly laggy w/ OSD |
[22:04:00] | lwizardl: | the video card you have in the system for the display is that being hooked up to a hdtv or a pc monitor ? |
[22:04:00] | mofu: | I deinterlace and playback on a 30" 1280x768 LCD via DVI, nice pic |
[22:06:00] | lwizardl: | ok I just bought a vga to rca 3 plug component video cable. I plan on using mine on my tv. |
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[22:06:00] | lwizardl: | well i'll be back in a few hours (12am est) current'y on lunch from work :( |
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[22:12:00] | scopeuk: | ok stupid idea comming up but ehre goes any way; is it posible to net boot a system as a pure procesing node for addign backend power |
[22:13:00] | mofu: | scopeuk: yeah, hard part is net boot, once its up making it a node should be easy |
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[22:14:00] | scopeuk: | i have netboot compatable systems pxe and all the rest of it though it was jsut creating a filesystem image on a tftp host to do the rest |
[22:14:00] | ** scopeuk will read up on network booting later ** | |
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[22:14:00] | mofu: | theoretically you could use one Read Only image to Net Boot several boxes and do myth processing |
[22:15:00] | WeezeyD: | I don't have any sound on live TV, but I can hear sound on recordings. |
[22:15:00] | scopeuk: | then save to a ceneral nfs share |
[22:16:00] | WeezeyD: | Also, since I upgraded to .19 my show recordings only shows one show, the others are in the db, they just don't show up. |
[22:16:00] | WeezeyD: | (and the files are there0 |
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[22:19:00] | mofu: | Weezey did you backup your db before the upgrade? |
[22:21:00] | Spunx: | http://dyndata.homelinux.com/myth.html <== funny shit. |
[22:21:00] | Spunx: | and when i wanted to give up i start the shit and it worx. r0fl |
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[22:22:00] | wole: | scopeuk: check out pluto – they have a network booting myth implementation |
[22:22:00] | scopeuk: | i shall look into it when i get my backend back up |
[22:22:00] | scopeuk: | i acidental nuked it earlier |
[22:22:00] | wole: | :S |
[22:23:00] | scopeuk: | then i went out for 4 hours while xfree86 decompresed |
[22:23:00] | scopeuk: | i broke a few configs ect |
[22:23:00] | scopeuk: | pebkac |
[22:23:00] | wole: | that sounds ominously familiar :( |
[22:23:00] | scopeuk: | oh someone else as bad as me? |
[22:23:00] | wole: | i was |
[22:23:00] | scopeuk: | yeh im a bit new with linux rearly |
[22:24:00] | wole: | ended up ditching deb & moving to fc4 |
[22:24:00] | scopeuk: | iave had dual boot for the last 4 months althoguh i havent used it much |
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[22:24:00] | wole: | i tent to reccomend vmware to n00bs these days – no need to reboot & you can cut and paste... |
[22:25:00] | WeezeyD: | mofu: no, the db is intact though, I can load it up on another frontend and see the entire list of programs. |
[22:25:00] | scopeuk: | wole vm ware requires payment i do use qemu quite alot though |
[22:25:00] | mofu: | WeezeyD – so its a problem w/ one frontend but not another?? |
[22:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | vmware gsx server, and vmplayer are free now |
[22:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | but I have a paid for copy of workstation |
[22:25:00] | wole: | scopeuk: nope, the player is GPL now |
[22:26:00] | scopeuk: | oh ye hthey made the iamge maker free recently |
[22:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've been ahuge vmware fan for a long time |
[22:26:00] | scopeuk: | i knew the player was free but id forgoten about the image maker |
[22:26:00] | scopeuk: | i like vm ware im jsut a skin flint |
[22:26:00] | wole: | scopeuk: so is the server (well, it's free, which is nearly as good) |
[22:27:00] | WeezeyD: | mofu: correct. |
[22:27:00] | wole: | scopeuk: http://www.vmware.com/products/player/ free! |
[22:27:00] | mofu: | what is the difference between the two?? |
[22:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use vmware pretty much constantly. Handy stuff |
[22:27:00] | scopeuk: | i tend to laod cd images into qemu lol |
[22:27:00] | WeezeyD: | mofu: one's running on a mac, the other FC4 |
[22:28:00] | WeezeyD: | same backend though. |
[22:28:00] | mofu: | WeezeyD, both 0.19 ??, which works, which doesn't?? |
[22:28:00] | wole: | aparently vista is going to have native support for VM's |
[22:28:00] | ** Beirdo yawns ** | |
[22:28:00] | scopeuk: | wole gd help us |
[22:28:00] | scopeuk: | god* |
[22:29:00] | WeezeyD: | mofu: FC4 – 0.19, mac is latest SVN, which is 0.18.1 I'm assuming |
[22:29:00] | mofu: | yawns at vista, or because he is tired?? |
[22:29:00] | scopeuk: | welcome to the wrlds slowes emu pretending to be a vm |
[22:29:00] | WeezeyD: | backend is 0.19 |
[22:29:00] | mofu: | WeezeyD, like SVN-today . . . or recent?? |
[22:30:00] | mofu: | WeezeyD: which one works?? |
[22:30:00] | WeezeyD: | mofu: yesterday, 0.18 works. |
[22:30:00] | WeezeyD: | I figured it out |
[22:30:00] | mofu: | SVN is 0.19 compatible for now . . . |
[22:30:00] | WeezeyD: | it was filteredt for some reason |
[22:31:00] | mofu: | what caused that?? |
[22:31:00] | scopeuk: | oh its a feature descuised as a bug |
[22:31:00] | WeezeyD: | so I only saw the one show listed as comedy |
[22:31:00] | scopeuk: | im good at finding them |
[22:31:00] | WeezeyD: | instead of the 400 shows recorded |
[22:32:00] | WeezeyD: | still no volume on live tv though. |
[22:33:00] | mofu: | yeah, the first time you open Watch Recordings in 0.19 it asks to select a Group Filter . . . |
[22:33:00] | scopeuk: | any one watchign /recording hyperdrive? |
[22:33:00] | Juski: | nah |
[22:33:00] | Juski: | just watched the winter olympics top gear though |
[22:34:00] | Juski: | is hyperdrive not repeated on bbc3 like a million times this week? ;-) |
[22:34:00] | scopeuk: | probably showing the whole series |
[22:34:00] | scopeuk: | topgear winter olimpics was fantastic |
[22:34:00] | scopeuk: | the stig at the end |
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[22:37:00] | Juski: | yeh that stig guy is mental |
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[22:39:00] | scopeuk: | livens things up |
[22:39:00] | Juski: | The Stig: real name Perry Macarthy apparently |
[22:39:00] | scopeuk: | wasent that the last one |
[22:39:00] | wole: | stig==damon hill |
[22:40:00] | scopeuk: | the one that drove off the carrier |
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[22:42:00] | coochan: | hmm,, I wonder |
[22:43:00] | coochan: | maybe my problem wasn't xvnc but the compilation of pentium4 run on an AMD k7 box |
[22:43:00] | coochan: | I wonder if that would cause SIGILL all over |
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[22:44:00] | quink: | hey i'm having trouble watching live tv. What permissions should there be on /dev/v4l/video0? |
[22:44:00] | Juski: | scopeuk: apparently The Stig is lots of different drivers.. never even suspected that |
[22:44:00] | scopeuk: | ok if im perminantly getting cantconnect to master server erros on the master backend box what have i likely done wrong during install |
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[22:44:00] | fugit: | having problems gettins sound to work on my pvr-250 card with coax cable from cable box. If I put it on channel 3 I get video on channel 4 I get sound? |
[22:45:00] | scopeuk: | Juski no me either :D |
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[22:45:00] | phillipcc: | hi i hope someone can help me out i have a problem with mythfilldatabase i need to configure it does anyone know what the command is at all |
[22:46:00] | scopeuk: | youed install xmltv then run mythtv-setup and configure the first 3 options |
[22:46:00] | scopeuk: | then run mythfilldatabase |
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[22:47:00] | wole: | greyfoxx: what video drivers do you use with your vmware mythfrontend? I'm having issues with ubuntu.. |
[22:47:00] | scopeuk: | im getting authentication erros when starting mythbackend |
[22:47:00] | Juski: | jees there are even people analysing stig's driving style to find out who he really is... lol |
[22:48:00] | wole: | scopeuk: you need to set up permissions in your mysql db |
[22:48:00] | scopeuk: | what you dident think that any form of mystery could jsut be left be |
[22:48:00] | scopeuk: | ok whats the best (read quickest) way to do that |
[22:48:00] | WeezeyD: | what needs to be set up to get incoming sound with a PVR-350? I upgraded everything because I was having trouble and I can now see video, I just can't hear audio. |
[22:48:00] | phillipcc: | tried that and this is the error i am getting /root/mythtv/tb0.xmltv does not exist run with configure |
[22:49:00] | Juski: | right – w*** in the morning.. I'm offski |
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[22:49:00] | ** wole waves at Juski ** | |
[22:50:00] | briand: | Weezey: you need to connect a cable from your PVR-350's sound output to your soundcard's line in (as discussed in several wikis, tutorials, and documentation) |
[22:50:00] | scopeuk: | think i forogt to start mysql |
[22:50:00] | scopeuk: | will find out in a second |
[22:51:00] | WeezeyD: | briand: I haven't changed my setup |
[22:51:00] | WeezeyD: | it was working fine before the upgrade |
[22:51:00] | phillipcc: | exactly which window should i run mythfilldatabase in the # super command or the $dollar local one not super |
[22:51:00] | sphing_: | awesome |
[22:51:00] | scopeuk: | i ran it as root usingsu |
[22:51:00] | WeezeyD: | I think I'm missing a module or something that brings the line in. Is that off by default or something? |
[22:53:00] | scopeuk: | mysql is deny all conenctiosn by the look of it |
[22:53:00] | phillipcc: | hey scopeuk when i run mythfilldatabase i get a whole lot of bad line errors |
[22:54:00] | scopeuk: | yeh i do |
[22:54:00] | scopeuk: | worked fine last time i did it |
[22:54:00] | scopeuk: | although im jsut past that part ofthe install for the second time today |
[22:54:00] | scopeuk: | long story dont ask |
[22:54:00] | phillipcc: | oh ok |
[22:55:00] | phillipcc: | mine has only hot 1 day of data left thats why i am trying to update it |
[22:55:00] | briand: | Hmm. MythTV 0.19 seems to have changed the bitrate (8000000), bitrate_peak(9600000), and stream_type(14) on my primary (PVR-350) card... and it is the only one exhibiting this strange behavior. On the other cards, the video still shows correctly at 4:3, stream_type = 0, bitrate=4500000, bitrate_peak=6000000 |
[22:55:00] | briand: | now, why would it do that? ...and, how do I make it change it back? |
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[23:01:00] | scopeuk: | ok i think i got it up |
[23:01:00] | scopeuk: | it dident die when i loaded it any way |
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[23:01:00] | scopeuk: | ive schedualed a recording through mythweb il see i it works |
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[23:08:00] | scopeuk: | well its managed to create a 100meg file in 10 mins |
[23:08:00] | scopeuk: | that sound about right? |
[23:09:00] | laga: | just try to watch it |
[23:09:00] | scopeuk: | i will when tis done recording |
[23:09:00] | scopeuk: | dont want to strees the poor littlle box toomuch |
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[23:10:00] | scopeuk: | where is the mythweather configuration? |
[23:11:00] | scopeuk: | or does it not work in uk anyway? |
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[23:16:00] | nuonguy: | I just used atrpms to upgrade to .19 and nothing works |
[23:17:00] | nuonguy: | http://pastebin.com/563489 |
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[23:18:00] | drdaz: | nuonguy: you didnt upgrade everything |
[23:18:00] | drdaz: | lies |
[23:18:00] | drdaz: | ignore me |
[23:18:00] | drdaz: | I misread |
[23:18:00] | drdaz: | sry |
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[23:20:00] | night-red: | that is from the testing server though so they might be updating |
[23:23:00] | nuonguy: | On the atrpms mailing list, some folks reported great success with the .19 upgrade |
[23:23:00] | ** nuonguy is like 'monkey see, monkey do' ** | |
[23:24:00] | drdaz: | it worked flawlessly for me too tbh |
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[23:24:00] | nuonguy: | Do you have -testing enabled? |
[23:25:00] | scopeuk: | if nothing else i migt keep myth jsut fr searching for tv shows |
[23:25:00] | drdaz: | no |
[23:25:00] | quink: | is there a way to reset mythtv to a default theme ? |
[23:25:00] | nuonguy: | did you use yum? |
[23:25:00] | quink: | like via the command line |
[23:25:00] | quink: | no. one of the generic one's that came with it and i can't find how to get into the setup options |
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[23:27:00] | nuonguy: | drdaz: how could you have upgraded without enabling atrpms-testing? Mythtv is at .18 in the stable section |
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[23:29:00] | drdaz: | erm |
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[23:29:00] | drdaz: | u sure about that? |
[23:30:00] | nuonguy: | drdaz: not completely, but following the atrpms mailing list at a distance, that's what I understood |
[23:30:00] | nuonguy: | Likely I'm incorrect: http://atrpms.net/dist/fc4/mythtv/ |
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[23:31:00] | drdaz: | yes |
[23:31:00] | drdaz: | :) |
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[23:33:00] | nuonguy: | Do you use libquicktime from livna or freshrpms or atrpms? |
[23:33:00] | drdaz: | all from atrpms |
[23:34:00] | drdaz: | actually... not sure |
[23:34:00] | drdaz: | but |
[23:34:00] | drdaz: | not livna |
[23:34:00] | drdaz: | only repos I have active are freshrpms and atrpms |
[23:34:00] | drdaz: | oh and updates and stuff |
[23:34:00] | drdaz: | of course |
[23:34:00] | nuonguy: | Yeah, that livna repository makes things a little scary sometimes |
[23:34:00] | nuonguy: | of course |
[23:35:00] | drdaz: | mixing repos messes things up |
[23:35:00] | drdaz: | badly |
[23:35:00] | nuonguy: | Well then how do I fix http://pastebin.com/563515 ? |
[23:36:00] | drdaz: | yum install libquicktime? |
[23:36:00] | drdaz: | really not sure.. didnt encounter this |
[23:37:00] | nuonguy: | That results in that dependency problem |
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[23:37:00] | nuonguy: | Seems to be fixed if I --disablerepo=freshrpms\* --disablerepo=livna |
[23:37:00] | scopeuk: | lol myth is cheacking for comercials in a program recorded on bbc |
[23:37:00] | scopeuk: | i set the no comercials flag but nto till after the recording |
[23:38:00] | nuonguy: | but yum is still install packages from .19–118 and .19–120 |
[23:40:00] | drdaz: | you might just need to wait on the repo to be updated |
[23:40:00] | drdaz: | or... the binaries from the 118 build are probably still available |
[23:40:00] | drdaz: | install them manually perhaps |
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[23:43:00] | WeezeyD: | my PVR350 isn't outputting any sound? |
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[23:44:00] | WeezeyD: | it's showing video just fine and playing audio from old recordings |
[23:44:00] | WeezeyD: | (via the sound card only) |
[23:45:00] | WeezeyD: | do I need to set up something for incoming sound to work? |
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[23:49:00] | scopeuk: | damn it my tuner got muxed |
[23:49:00] | scopeuk: | need to re tune me thinks |
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[23:50:00] | drdaz: | nuonguy: weird that you're getting that build incompatibility |
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[23:51:00] | drdaz: | I upgraded last night and am running build 120 |
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[23:56:00] | ** nasa wonders if anyone knows anything about mythfrontend freezing.... ** | |
[23:57:00] | nuonguy: | Wow |
[23:57:00] | nuonguy: | That Axel Thimm guy from atrpms is very, very responsive |
[23:57:00] | nuonguy: | I'm getting email back from him already on the mailing list |
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[23:58:00] | drdaz: | :) |
[23:59:00] | nuonguy: | He must have been working on it overnight or today cuz the mismatch is pretty hard to miss |
[23:59:00] | nuonguy: | ...once it's installed, that is |
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