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[00:00:00] | AndyW: | I get the same error if I shell into the mythtv box and use lynx also |
[00:00:00] | xpis: | Blammo[work]: what version of mythtv are you running? |
[00:00:00] | psymin: | AndyW: sounds like you need to set up the mythtv@localhost user .. or have its password set somewhere properly |
[00:00:00] | Blammo[work]: | both 0.18 and 0.19 (test machine) |
[00:01:00] | AndyW: | psymin: I am able to log in to the mythtv machine as mythtv |
[00:01:00] | psymin: | AndyW: Does the frontend run properly on that machine? |
[00:01:00] | Blammo[work]: | xpis: honestly, however, I haven't done much with it under 0.19 — I just tested to make sure MPEG2-TS streams were still borked, and didn't mess with it past that. |
[00:01:00] | AndyW: | psymin: yupper |
[00:02:00] | FunkyELF: | dev-, less than 2 minutes to go on what? |
[00:02:00] | quitte: | Blammo[work]: borked how? im about to jump out the window an recalibrate my dish – so that info might be useful to me. |
[00:02:00] | dev-: | fixing my shit so it would record the 7pm show it had scheduled. |
[00:02:00] | dev-: | verified all was working at 18:58:09 heh |
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[00:03:00] | AndyW: | psymin: been up for a week, no probs... recorded several shows.. it is fine except for not being able to access mythweb from another box on my network |
[00:03:00] | ** FunkyELF hopes he did everything he needed to before emerging the new version. ** | |
[00:03:00] | psymin: | AndyW: can you connect as the user mythtv to mysql from localhost? |
[00:03:00] | quitte: | in case anyone wonders why i have so many different setups – im doing this for myself and two friends |
[00:03:00] | xpis: | Blammo[work]: so you did get it to work under 0.19? |
[00:03:00] | FunkyELF: | I stopped mythfrontend and did a /etc/init.d/mythbackend stop |
[00:04:00] | AndyW: | psymin: mythtv is the user I created for mythtv, and it is what mythfrontend and everything else is using |
[00:04:00] | psymin: | AndyW: mysql -u mythtv --password=mythtv |
[00:04:00] | AndyW: | psymin: there are no other user accounts on that box |
[00:04:00] | psymin: | AndyW: does that command work .. or error out? |
[00:05:00] | AndyW: | psymin: that is not the password |
[00:05:00] | quitte: | psymin: souldnt that e mysqladmin -u root ...? |
[00:05:00] | psymin: | AndyW: that is not the mysql password for the mythtv mysql user? |
[00:05:00] | AndyW: | psymin: is that a default pw that is set womewhere... that would certainly be the trouble |
[00:06:00] | xpis: | Blammo[work]: Also.. do you know if mythstreamtv has any support for nupplevideo/mpeg4 files? |
[00:06:00] | AndyW: | ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'mythtv@localhost' |
[00:06:00] | psymin: | xpis: vlc does .. and mythstreamtv uses vlc .. so I'd *guess* 'yes'. |
[00:06:00] | Spida: | anybody here using xmltv? |
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[00:07:00] | Spida: | Undefined subroutine &XMLTV::AskTerm::init called at tv_grab_de_prisma line 718. |
[00:08:00] | Spida: | Undefined subroutine &XMLTV::AskTerm::init called at /usr/bin/tv_grab_de_tvtoday line 202. |
[00:08:00] | psymin: | AndyW: in ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt there might be mysql login info for the user that mythtv is using to connect to mysql .. I'll check my mythweb settings to see if there is user info there too |
[00:09:00] | Blammo[work]: | xpis : I'll check into it more tonight.. more accurately, it didn't seem to break after the upgrade. The 0.19 machine was an 0.18 machine I yum upgraded. |
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[00:09:00] | quitte: | Spida: wild guess – you didnt run mythtv-setup form a controlling terminal? |
[00:09:00] | Blammo[work]: | xpis: the web interface worked, the program list worked, the stream appeared to start, and break (MPEG2-TS) like it did before, so what I wanted still wasn't working. |
[00:09:00] | Blammo[work]: | xpis: that's as far as I got |
[00:09:00] | xpis: | Blammo[work]: I found a patched version of mythstreamtv on the mythtv mailing list. I'm going to see what was required to get it working. |
[00:10:00] | psymin: | AndyW: config/conf.php has the mythweb mysql user info .. |
[00:10:00] | xpis: | Blammo[work]: Have you ever tried using it on mpeg4/nupplevideo files? |
[00:10:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | hey guys.. didnt u tell me that the blue bar around my pic i can change to black some how? |
[00:10:00] | Spida: | quitte: aeh... I did, but that was yesterday. so you are thinking that the db-entries are wrong? |
[00:11:00] | quitte: | Spida: no. i was thinking that xmltv didnt know to which terminal it should send its questions. |
[00:11:00] | Spida: | quitte: does the grabber send questions to the terminal? |
[00:11:00] | AndyW: | psymin: kewl... lemee look.. one sec |
[00:11:00] | quitte: | Spida: i think so,yes |
[00:12:00] | Spida: | quitte: you are right, i called the grabber via ssh |
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[00:12:00] | Spida: | quitte: but WHY??? does it want a physical term? |
[00:12:00] | Blammo[work]: | xpis : no – just mpeg2 (pvr-x50) and mpeg2-ts (air2pc) |
[00:12:00] | Spida: | *grml* |
[00:13:00] | AndyW: | psymin: ok I see it... does that need to be mythtv:mythtv ? |
[00:13:00] | quitte: | Spida: no idea. i've used mythtv the day before yesterday for my first time |
[00:13:00] | quitte: | Spida: could well be a completely wrong idea |
[00:13:00] | dev-: | one problem i have with .19, the master backend and slave backend dont share tuners nicely anymore |
[00:14:00] | quitte: | Spida: all that i got the idea from is that i was asked questions and the :AskTerm: of what you pasted |
[00:15:00] | psymin: | AndyW: it needs to be a user that has access to the db that mythtv is using |
[00:16:00] | Spida: | quitte: *g* |
[00:16:00] | Spida: | quitte: hm, tried on a physical terminal, same effect |
[00:17:00] | FunkyELF: | so will my database automatically upgrade duing the emerge or during the first time I start myth? |
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[00:18:00] | AndyW: | psymin: I just nuked and recreated the mythtv user for mysql adn granted ALL privs globally... still no good |
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[00:19:00] | AndyW: | psymin: I am using phpmyadmin btw |
[00:20:00] | quitte: | Spida: more wild guessing – firewall prevents connecting? |
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[00:23:00] | FunkyELF: | so I can't connect to the master backend server any more |
[00:23:00] | dev-: | i cant view tv from my tuners on the slavebackend ;/ |
[00:23:00] | FunkyELF: | afer the emerge I did a /etc/init.d/mythbackend start and it started |
[00:23:00] | dev-: | no apparent errors either, kind of blows |
[00:23:00] | AndyW: | psymin: got it... forgot to reload mysql after changing privs |
[00:23:00] | FunkyELF: | but when I do a stop it has an error |
[00:24:00] | AndyW: | psymin: thanks very much for your help |
[00:24:00] | dev-: | ah, hrm, i do have an error |
[00:24:00] | dev-: | 2006-02–15 19:17:43.760 Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION: |
[00:24:00] | dev-: | odd. they're all upgraded to .19.. hrm |
[00:24:00] | FunkyELF: | I asked this already but I restarted xdm and lost my other session....when does the database upgrade take place? |
[00:25:00] | Spida: | quitte: hm. shouldn't. and i would expect a differen error-message.... |
[00:26:00] | quitte: | Spida: i could continue this forever ;) some missing perl modules? |
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[00:28:00] | xpis: | I just tested it, and mythstreamtv works fine with 0.19. |
[00:28:00] | xpis: | (using the patch posed on the dev mailing list) |
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[00:29:00] | Spida: | quitte: hm, i will try updating the thing first, and report back... |
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[00:33:00] | Spida: | dev-: hm, haad a look in the settings table of you sql? |
[00:33:00] | Spida: | -a+r |
[00:34:00] | Spida: | dev-: I had two sets of settings there.... |
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[00:34:00] | FunkyELF: | so I had this problem where /etc/init.d/mythbackend stop would tell me start-stop-daemon: warning: failed to kill 6168: No such process [ !! |
[00:34:00] | FunkyELF: | so I rebooted the machine |
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[00:34:00] | FunkyELF: | when I do a status on it it says its running, but when I fire up a front end it can't connect to it |
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[00:35:00] | FunkyELF: | when I run mythbackend as root in another terminal I can run a frontend just fine and my programs are all there |
[00:35:00] | FunkyELF: | any ideas what to do? |
[00:36:00] | Blammo[work]: | xpis: cool – good info – thanks.. what file formats did you test? |
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[00:40:00] | Gumby: | does anyone know if the avertv pvr150 plus is the same/similar to the hauppauge pvr150? |
[00:44:00] | j-rod: | Gumby, it is not |
[00:44:00] | Gumby: | is it an ivtv card? |
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[00:46:00] | blackcamera: | is it just me or are their issues with ATrpms? |
[00:47:00] | scottder: | using yum? |
[00:47:00] | blackcamera: | yes |
[00:47:00] | j-rod: | I'm slowly coming to the realization that yum still sucks ass |
[00:47:00] | j-rod: | improved by leaps and bounds over earlier iterations, but still has a ways to go |
[00:48:00] | Spida: | FunkyELF: did you try to read the logs? |
[00:48:00] | scottder: | Yeah most package management systems have their good and bad points |
[00:48:00] | blackcamera: | this is what i get when i try yum install anything or yum upgrade. |
[00:48:00] | blackcamera: | Cannot open/read repomd.xml file for repository: atrpms |
[00:48:00] | blackcamera: | failure: repodata/repomd.xml from atrpms: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try. |
[00:48:00] | blackcamera: | Error: failure: repodata/repomd.xml from atrpms: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try. |
[00:49:00] | j-rod: | that would actually be because there are connectivity issues |
[00:49:00] | FunkyELF: | /mnt/store//nfslockfile.lock: Permission denied |
[00:49:00] | FunkyELF: | Unable to open lockfile! |
[00:49:00] | FunkyELF: | it put an extra / in there for some reason |
[00:49:00] | dev-: | mythbackend doesnt run as root by default anymore |
[00:49:00] | j-rod: | atrpms appears to be down at the moment |
[00:49:00] | dev-: | just change the init.d script where it switches to user mythtv and you're good |
[00:49:00] | scottder: | Yup |
[00:49:00] | blackcamera: | ahh so it isn't just me... thanks. |
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[00:50:00] | Spida: | FunkyELF: remove the lockfile |
[00:50:00] | dev-: | its not the lockfile its .19's different init script switching the backend to user mythtv instead of root |
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[00:50:00] | FunkyELF: | dev-, so I should't use /etc/init.d/mythbackend script anymore? |
[00:51:00] | dev-: | lol |
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[00:51:00] | dev-: | just modify it.. |
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[00:51:00] | scottder: | Error: failure: repodata/repomd.xml from atrpms: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try. |
[00:51:00] | scottder: | yup |
[00:51:00] | Spida: | dev-: mythbackend runs fine as user here |
[00:51:00] | FunkyELF: | dev-, where do I change it run as mythtv?\ |
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[00:51:00] | dev-: | Spida: then you either have 777 on your directory, or you started useing mythtv with .19 and arent upgrading :P |
[00:51:00] | scottder: | Is there a fix to the issues with the 2.6.15 kernel and IVTV? |
[00:51:00] | dev-: | dude, funkyelf, MODIFY IT |
[00:51:00] | dev-: | "vi /etc/init.d/mythbackend" and change away lol |
[00:52:00] | dev-: | scottder: yeah, downgraide to .14, its what i did heh. |
[00:52:00] | FunkyELF: | dev-, I have it open in an editor, but I don't know how to change it. |
[00:52:00] | scottder: | dev-: me too...was just curious |
[00:52:00] | Spida: | dev-: my videodir is owned by the user mythtv |
[00:52:00] | j-rod: | ivtv works just fine here w/a 2.6.15 kernel |
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[00:52:00] | Spida: | j-rod: ack |
[00:52:00] | scottder: | I was gonna downgrade my nvdida drivers but there were no older ones for the 2.6.14 kernel |
[00:52:00] | dev-: | ivtv will work fine with .15 kernel if you have a newer capture card |
[00:52:00] | scottder: | silly RPMS :) |
[00:52:00] | Spida: | 0.4.2 with 2.6.15.3 here |
[00:52:00] | dev-: | if you have an older capture card it wont autodetect the tuner type and you're screwed |
[00:53:00] | j-rod: | ivtv will work fine if you have an older capture card too |
[00:53:00] | scottder: | Well with my PVR-150...it wouldn't change channels |
[00:53:00] | dev-: | j-rod not for me, i tried setting the tuner type several ways and it didnt take effect. |
[00:53:00] | j-rod: | it works just fine for me, PVR-250, PVR-500 |
[00:53:00] | dev-: | worked fine on 2 of my 250s |
[00:53:00] | j-rod: | ivtv 0.4.3 was just released today, btw, may fix that |
[00:53:00] | dev-: | didnt work fine on my other 2 250's |
[00:53:00] | dev-: | didnt, tried that too |
[00:53:00] | dev-: | :D |
[00:53:00] | FunkyELF: | start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --chuid mythtv |
[00:53:00] | dev-: | these 250's are way old, over a year. |
[00:54:00] | FunkyELF: | is that it?....the chuid ? |
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[00:54:00] | dev-: | lol.. yes.. |
[00:54:00] | FunkyELF: | it is running as mythtv then. That must be the problem. when I run it as root from a console it starts, but as mythtv it get that same error about the lockfle |
[00:54:00] | dev-: | yes, dude, thats the problem.. lol |
[00:55:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | mythphone has nothing to do w/ your actual phone line? |
[00:55:00] | j-rod: | over a year old isn't way old |
[00:55:00] | j-rod: | my PVR-250 is at least 3 years old |
[00:55:00] | dev-: | about 2.6.15, its weird, its like the tuner module the kernel uses dosnt take any of the same settings as the one ivtv uses, even though its supposedly to be ivtv's tuner module included in the kernel |
[00:55:00] | dev-: | annoying++ |
[00:56:00] | j-rod: | try ivtv 0.4.3 |
[00:56:00] | dev-: | <j-rod> ivtv 0.4.3 was just released today, btw, may fix that |
[00:56:00] | dev-: | <dev-> didnt, tried that too |
[00:56:00] | dev-: | becaues its not ivtv's problem |
[00:56:00] | dev-: | its the tuner.ko included in 2.6.15 |
[00:56:00] | j-rod: | whoops |
[00:56:00] | j-rod: | sorry |
[00:56:00] | dev-: | 2.6.15 on tuner.ko is in the kernel |
[00:56:00] | dev-: | not external from ivtv |
[00:56:00] | j-rod: | tried the ext one? |
[00:57:00] | dev-: | interestingly enough, ivtv wont compile against a 2.6.15 kernel with it disabled in the kernel |
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[00:57:00] | j-rod: | notes include: Fix Samsung TCPN 2121P30A tuner definition |
[00:57:00] | j-rod: | and Add TCL MFNM05–4 to autodetect tuner list |
[00:57:00] | j-rod: | so don't disable it |
[00:57:00] | j-rod: | build it in the kernel and externally |
[00:58:00] | dev-: | lol, i didnt.. im just saying, at first i tried compiling the new ivtv drivers without it enabled, and it bombed, so obviously i enabled it.. |
[00:58:00] | FunkyELF: | do I need to change all of my file permissions in my /mnt/store directory to root:users before I'll be able to run mythbackend as root? |
[00:58:00] | dev-: | yes, thats what happened, and the one in the kernel took precedence |
[00:58:00] | FunkyELF: | *as mythtv |
[00:58:00] | j-rod: | move the kernel one out of the way then |
[00:59:00] | dev-: | perhaps i'll try that, but i was under a time crunch and had to have the entire setup working again by 7pm to begin recordings tonights tv |
[00:59:00] | dev-: | tomorrow at 5pm i have a nice long window, until 10am friday |
[00:59:00] | j-rod: | heh |
[00:59:00] | dev-: | that will give me plenty of time to dick around and play |
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[00:59:00] | j-rod: | I'm gonna see if I can sneak in my new HD tuners before 9pm... :) |
[01:00:00] | dev-: | hehe it sucks when you get used to this, have to look for windows to do anything heh |
[01:00:00] | dev-: | im up to 4 tuners now because 3 would be in use several times a week |
[01:00:00] | dev-: | heh |
[01:00:00] | j-rod: | yeah, I had my new 1.5TB backend sitting idle for like 6 days, waiting for a window (and for me to have time) |
[01:00:00] | j-rod: | only 4? |
[01:00:00] | j-rod: | :) |
[01:01:00] | dev-: | i only have 2 tuners working right now, because the tuners on the slavebackend arent working in .19, i get a proto-version error |
[01:01:00] | ** j-rod counts his tuners... ** | |
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[01:01:00] | j-rod: | I believe I've got at least 10 tuners |
[01:01:00] | j-rod: | 6 in prod |
[01:01:00] | dev-: | haha |
[01:02:00] | dev-: | you must watch more tv than me/my fiance, and i thought that was impossible |
[01:02:00] | j-rod: | I have kids. :) |
[01:02:00] | dtm: | j-rod: what's this for? |
[01:02:00] | j-rod: | what's what for? |
[01:02:00] | dev-: | ahhh |
[01:02:00] | dtm: | j-rod: what you're talking about |
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[01:02:00] | dtm: | your massive mythtv system |
[01:02:00] | MrEntropy: | yo |
[01:02:00] | j-rod: | Its just that. My massive MythTV system. :) |
[01:03:00] | dtm: | j-rod: how can you possibly watch that much tv and how can you possibly care? |
[01:03:00] | dev-: | <j-rod> I have kids. :) |
[01:03:00] | j-rod: | I got a helluva deal on 8 250GB SATA drive, then grabbed a 3ware 9500s-8 card for 'em |
[01:03:00] | dev-: | duh |
[01:03:00] | dtm: | do we have a neighborhood watch for media obsession here? |
[01:03:00] | j-rod: | And I don't watch *that* much tv. |
[01:03:00] | dtm: | we gotta cover each others' backs, guys ;) |
[01:03:00] | j-rod: | But HDTV takes up some room. |
[01:03:00] | MrEntropy: | can someone explain what "video sources" are for if they don't define any tuning parameters? |
[01:03:00] | j-rod: | So does my music and video library |
[01:05:00] | j-rod: | crap, my connection is like a bloody yo-yo today. |
[01:06:00] | scottder: | 8 250 dirves *drool* |
[01:06:00] | j-rod: | /dev/sda2 1.4T 453G 851G 35% /storage |
[01:06:00] | j-rod: | RAID5 w/a hot spare |
[01:06:00] | dtm: | j-rod: just curious as to how many kids you have and what age ranges |
[01:07:00] | dtm: | j-rod: for my fake personal market research ;) |
[01:07:00] | dtm: | roughly |
[01:07:00] | j-rod: | 2 kids, son is 3 and a half, daughter is 5 months old |
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[01:07:00] | j-rod: | (okay, so only one watches tv yet) |
[01:07:00] | dtm: | :-. |
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[01:07:00] | scottder: | j-rod so you have video folders full of Dora/Diego/Thomas/Lazytown too then eh? :) |
[01:08:00] | j-rod: | oh yeah |
[01:08:00] | sanmarcos: | I am trying to watch TV with a set up PVR 350, I am using a normal cable input, what should I set as my input in the setup, Tuner? Composite? |
[01:08:00] | scottder: | my son is the same age as yours |
[01:08:00] | scottder: | today I walked into the living room...somehow he got the LAzytown he was watching to play again |
[01:08:00] | j-rod: | dora, thomas, zoboomafoo, monster jam |
[01:08:00] | scottder: | was very proud of himself too |
[01:08:00] | scottder: | :) |
[01:08:00] | j-rod: | yeah, mine does that once in a while too |
[01:09:00] | j-rod: | usually he just brings you the remote and insists you pause it so he can go pee |
[01:09:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | arg mythtv is almost an obsession now.. there is always something i can tweak or add! |
[01:10:00] | j-rod: | its really funny how he doesn't understand that not all shows can be paused (he got ticked the other day because we were actually watching something live w/o myth, and couldn't pause it) |
[01:10:00] | MrEntropy: | seriously i'm confused. xmltv grabbed the channels, i associate my tuner with the listing, and my channel editor is empty...? |
[01:10:00] | scottder: | j-rod: hehehe yup |
[01:11:00] | sanmarcos: | anybody=ç |
[01:12:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | hey guys.. i took out the "phone" button in everything in /usr/share/mythtv but it still keeps comming up.. why |
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[01:14:00] | sanmarcos: | anybody know why mythtv with a PVR 350 gives me unable to intitialize video but cat /dev/vide0 > file.mpg works? |
[01:17:00] | scottder: | j-rod....how is support fornthe 3ware SATA RAID cards? |
[01:18:00] | j-rod: | excellent |
[01:18:00] | j-rod: | its amazing what you can do with these things |
[01:18:00] | j-rod: | there's both a cli and web ui to access all sorts of info about the card, the drives, the array(s), etc |
[01:18:00] | scottder: | Nice! |
[01:19:00] | scottder: | Looking at the 4 port version of that card... |
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[01:19:00] | j-rod: | despite my mobo having 4 onboard ports, I'm thinking about getting a 4-port 9500 as well |
[01:19:00] | sanmarcos: | anybody? |
[01:21:00] | j-rod: | sanmarcos, double-check everything in mythtv-setup |
[01:21:00] | scottder: | Yeah I want to build a little solid fileserver for music and stuff...something with mirroring |
[01:21:00] | dev-: | interesting... everytime i try to watch live-tv and get put on an encoder thats on the slavebackend, mysql starts getting hammered by lock tables queries |
[01:21:00] | briand: | anybody here ever seen the message "lircd dead but subsys locked" when running `service lircd status` ?? |
[01:21:00] | dev-: | hrm |
[01:22:00] | j-rod: | briand, yes |
[01:22:00] | briand: | j-rod: yeah? how did you fix it? |
[01:22:00] | j-rod: | did you by chance just upgrade a kernel or something? |
[01:22:00] | briand: | yes, exactly. |
[01:22:00] | j-rod: | atrpms? |
[01:22:00] | briand: | atrpms apparently hosed my previous... so a yum update was done |
[01:22:00] | j-rod: | if so, you probably need to install the lirc-kmdl-$KVER for the new kernel |
[01:23:00] | briand: | ta-da... new kernel (but now I can (and have gotten) get qt-devel |
[01:23:00] | briand: | ah.. |
[01:23:00] | j-rod: | of course, as of 30 minutes ago or so, nobody here could reach atrpms.net... |
[01:23:00] | briand: | typical. my week is going like that. |
[01:26:00] | briand: | what's supposed to be in $KVER ? just a `uname -r` ? |
[01:26:00] | j-rod: | yeah |
[01:26:00] | sanmarcos: | wjhat dpes IVTV_IOC_GET_FB: Invalid argument mean? |
[01:27:00] | MrEntropy: | how do i delete a transport in mythtv-setup? |
[01:27:00] | briand: | so, i could just as easily type "yum install lirc-kmdl-`uname -r`" |
[01:27:00] | j-rod: | yes |
[01:27:00] | sanmarcos: | or $(uname -r) |
[01:27:00] | j-rod: | or 2.6.15–1.1832_FC4 |
[01:27:00] | briand: | cool. lemme run it and see if atrpms is up |
[01:27:00] | briand: | j-rod: actually, that wouldn't work for me. ;) |
[01:27:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | hey for mythtv web what ports do you forward? |
[01:28:00] | j-rod: | even newer kernel, or older distro? |
[01:28:00] | briand: | j-rod: it'd have to be 2.6.12–1.1381_FC3 |
[01:28:00] | j-rod: | aha |
[01:28:00] | j-rod: | for me: 2.6.15–1.1948_FC5 |
[01:28:00] | dev-: | hrm so mythtv mysql users needs lock tables privs now |
[01:28:00] | dev-: | shouldnt that be in the documentation somewhere ;p |
[01:28:00] | jerky_3: | which video card would you guys recommend for on-board mpeg2 decoding for 720p and 1080i HDTV? I've heard the nvidia 5200 fanless is a good choice, do any of you guys ahve any suggestions? |
[01:29:00] | sanmarcos: | anybody own a PVR350 here? |
[01:29:00] | briand: | yes, I do |
[01:29:00] | j-rod: | only caveat on the 5200 is that (at least some) don't work w/a 1080p display |
[01:29:00] | j-rod: | while a 6200 does |
[01:29:00] | briand: | PVR-350 and a PVR-500MCE |
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[01:30:00] | jerky_3: | hm... mine is a 480p plasma TV so that's not too much of a concern right now, but could be in the future if i'm lucky :) |
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[01:31:00] | dev-: | so yeah |
[01:31:00] | dev-: | you guys might want to take notice |
[01:31:00] | dev-: | people with slavebackends |
[01:32:00] | dev-: | you need to give your mysql mythtv user lock privs |
[01:32:00] | dev-: | or you will have issues++ |
[01:32:00] | MrEntropy: | is there any way i can delete a transport? |
[01:33:00] | briand: | hmm. yeah, atrpms is still unavailable. :( can i get the file somewhere else? |
[01:33:00] | sanmarcos: | rpm / apt ripoffs suck... apt-get is the real thing |
[01:33:00] | briand: | sanmarcos: are you just taking inventory, or did you have a pvr-350 question? |
[01:34:00] | sanmarcos: | briand: I am in the proecss of fixing it, I believe |
[01:34:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | hey guys how do i get to use mythtv web over the internet not just my local lan that i can do right now? |
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[01:38:00] | jerky_3: | j-rod, what exactly do you mean by they won't work with a 1080p display? is there a way to workaround that, like turn the res down? and do you know which ones might not work with 1080p? |
[01:39:00] | j-rod: | I've got a 5200 w/a DVI port, and its incapable of driving my 1080p LCD HDTV at 1080p |
[01:39:00] | j-rod: | A 6200 works just fine. |
[01:39:00] | j-rod: | yes, you can run at a lower res w/the 5200 |
[01:39:00] | j-rod: | but that would be stupid as can be |
[01:39:00] | jerky_3: | haha yeah |
[01:40:00] | jerky_3: | does it noticably reduce your CPU usage? |
[01:40:00] | j-rod: | if you're going to spend the money on a 1080p set, spend an extra $50 for 6200 |
[01:40:00] | j-rod: | no |
[01:40:00] | j-rod: | the ui scaled up to 1920x1080 slaughters ram tho |
[01:40:00] | jerky_3: | I have a p4 2.2 and a ti 4400 and it's just not able to hack it on 1080i HDTV |
[01:40:00] | j-rod: | swapped like a bitch w/512 in the box |
[01:40:00] | jerky_3: | ah, damn, i have 512 |
[01:40:00] | j-rod: | upped it to 1g, no problems since |
[01:40:00] | j-rod: | that's also w/one of the more detailed themes tho |
[01:41:00] | j-rod: | (syth-lacquer-wide from lxm) |
[01:41:00] | jerky_3: | i thought i had read that a 5200 with XvMC support would enable a lower powered CPU to keep up with high quality HDTV |
[01:41:00] | j-rod: | in theory, yeah |
[01:41:00] | j-rod: | xvmc support is still buggy |
[01:42:00] | jerky_3: | which nvidia driver do you use? |
[01:42:00] | jerky_3: | i've heard 7676 is the best choice for xvmc support, but my comp seems to hate that driver, it only works with the 8178 driver |
[01:42:00] | briand: | j-rod: lirc getting fixed notwithstanding... i should still be able to configure and compile myth 0.19 (won't install it yet, because 0.18 is currently recording two shows), right? |
[01:42:00] | j-rod: | I ran lots of pre-0.19 svn builds w/o a problem on fc4 |
[01:43:00] | j-rod: | currently running Axel's 0.19 packages |
[01:43:00] | j-rod: | iow, yes |
[01:43:00] | j-rod: | opengl vsync is broken in 8178 |
[01:43:00] | j-rod: | that's the main reason to stick with 7676 |
[01:44:00] | jerky_3: | 7676 acts screwy for me, when i install it X won't boot... it boots to a black screen |
[01:44:00] | briand: | i'm hanging on to one (otherwise useless) .5-hour show to try out the lossless transcode, once i get 0.19 going |
[01:44:00] | jerky_3: | but i can load driver "nv" and then init 3, load "nvidia" driver and then init 5 and it will work until i reboot |
[01:44:00] | jerky_3: | but using that approach and enabling XvMC got me all kinds of frame buffer errors or something |
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[01:45:00] | jerky_3: | i've heard that the TI 4400 don't have full XvMC support so i guess i'm screwed with that card |
[01:45:00] | briand: | i use my pvr-350's TV-Out, so I'd prefer to keep things in mpeg-2 format, but still trim the commercials, etc out |
[01:46:00] | sanmarcos: | the 350 is POS |
[01:46:00] | sanmarcos: | if you dont use mpeg you dont get audio |
[01:46:00] | briand: | not true |
[01:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | Sure You can |
[01:46:00] | j-rod: | jerky_3, yes, the 4Ti series only does one of the two main xvmc components |
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[01:46:00] | j-rod: | in that respect, a 4mx is actually better |
[01:46:00] | sanmarcos: | No audio output from anything but MPEG2 – requires pass-through cable to line-in on sound card for other audio output |
[01:46:00] | jerky_3: | yeah i read it only does motion compensation and not IDCT |
[01:46:00] | briand: | if you don't use mpeg-2, you don't get embedded audio in the mpeg stream, but you'll get audio from your soundcard |
[01:46:00] | jerky_3: | but i don't know what IDCT is or how important it is |
[01:47:00] | sanmarcos: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_PVR-350 |
[01:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | sanmarcos: Then that's all people have to do, that doesn't make it a POS :) |
[01:47:00] | jerky_3: | hm, i found some 6200 AGP verisons for $55, the 5200 is only $20 or so cheaper |
[01:47:00] | j-rod: | I've watched HDTV w/a Ti4600 on a dual Athlon MP 2000 system w/o a problem... |
[01:47:00] | jerky_3: | so maybe i will just spring for that and hope for the best |
[01:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's not what I would choose, but that doesn't make it a bad thing :) |
[01:47:00] | sanmarcos: | GreyFoxx: oh right you have to buy a another cable to get audio.. |
[01:47:00] | briand: | so, build yourself a $3 cable, or buy a $25 pre-built one. big deal. |
[01:47:00] | j-rod: | (no xvmc in use though, and 2 cpu, of course) |
[01:47:00] | jerky_3: | ahh, but that's twice as much power as my system :( weak ass p4 2.2 |
[01:48:00] | jerky_3: | i built this workstation about 3.5 years ago, and i thought i could squeeze some HDTV out of it, but it's looking like a no |
[01:48:00] | j-rod: | :) |
[01:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | sanmarcos: After spending all that money on a 350, you complain about a 1–3 dollar cable ?:) |
[01:48:00] | j-rod: | I had an Athlon XP 1800 that could almost cut it w/a GF4MX |
[01:48:00] | j-rod: | so the P4 2.2 might be doable with the right hardware/driver/tweaking combo. :) |
[01:48:00] | sanmarcos: | GreyFoxx: yeah, try to find such a cable |
[01:48:00] | jerky_3: | mine is in that "almost" stage... it can playback 720p smoothly as long as it's not recording a stream. and it can almost playback 1080i, but it skips about every 5 seconds in fast-motion scenes like the Olympics |
[01:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | they are everywhere. Heck, I have 3 in my "cable drawer" that would do the trick |
[01:49:00] | briand: | sanmarcos: you've got to be kidding me... you can solder one together in a few minutes |
[01:49:00] | jerky_3: | but it can pretty much play 1080i in low motion scenes like sitcoms |
[01:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | or, make one |
[01:49:00] | j-rod: | that's about what my 1800 was doing — this was without using xvmc, btw |
[01:50:00] | jerky_3: | yeah mine is without xvmc, with xvmc on it gets murdered, chops 10x as bad |
[01:50:00] | sanmarcos: | briand: solder? |
[01:50:00] | jerky_3: | and using libmpeg2 seems to work better than ffmpeg for me, which is the opposite of what i've read for most people |
[01:50:00] | jerky_3: | i also just picked up a p4 3.0 with 1gig of RAM from a friend, but i wanted to keep it as a windows box for a little gaming |
[01:50:00] | jerky_3: | looks like i might have to cannibalize it... |
[01:51:00] | MrEntropy: | how long is dvb-t channel scanning supposed to take? mine's been sitting at 5% flicking between lock and no lock |
[01:52:00] | briand: | sanmarcos: yes. |
[01:53:00] | jerky_3: | MrEntropy, channel scanning can take quite a while (5 minutes?) ... it will say no lock for most of the time but hopefully find 5–10 channels in your area |
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[01:54:00] | macroexp: | ok, this is nuts. i can watch my directv (pvr-350 svideo in) via livetv, and initiate recordings from it, but scheduled recordings only pretend to record, leaving data in the database but no file on disk |
[01:54:00] | MrEntropy: | jerky_3: am i supposed to give it values from the region file (the file you give to dvb-apps/scan to generate you the tzap channels.conf) or values from the tzap channels.conf? |
[01:54:00] | jerky_3: | MrEntropy, you don't have to... *zap is just a program you can use on the side for diagnostics |
[01:55:00] | jerky_3: | i used azap to lock streams and test them in mplayer before i went through the channel scan with myth |
[01:55:00] | macroexp: | oh, this problem only arose after the upgrade to 0.19 |
[01:55:00] | MrEntropy: | jerky_3: but i have to give it something to lock on to, don't i? it asks for it always |
[01:55:00] | dev-: | hrm xris why doesnt mythweb see the slavebackends hd space and count it in backend status page anymore? it did in .18 |
[01:55:00] | macroexp: | which makes no sense, since live tv and recordings seem to be almost unified now in 0.19 |
[01:55:00] | jerky_3: | with *zap you specify a channel, with myth's scan it scans them all for you depending on the type of broadcast you need, i use ATSC |
[01:56:00] | jerky_3: | then it will present a summary to you and you can decide which to include in your guide, and specify XMLTV values for them |
[01:56:00] | xris: | dev-: I didn't change that. could be the backend changed how it sends the data, though... |
[01:57:00] | dev-: | i used to hope that myth would reschedule things automatically to the tuners on the slavebackend if the masterbackend ran low on space |
[01:57:00] | dev-: | do you know if thats the case? |
[01:57:00] | macroexp: | i think it's time for the mythbox to meet the baseball bat |
[01:57:00] | xris: | dev-: I think it does. |
[01:57:00] | MrEntropy: | jerky_3: ok, but in order for you to test *zap, you had to get your region def file and get 'scan' to make you the channels.conf for *zap to use, right? |
[01:57:00] | dev-: | cool.. i never tested it hehe |
[01:58:00] | dev-: | i really havent been able to find too much information on the master/slave backened relationship. |
[01:58:00] | dev-: | all i know for sure is it can tell when a tuner is down and reschedule to appropriate tuners |
[01:58:00] | dev-: | which is nice |
[01:59:00] | dev-: | that drive space thing is a curiousity ive had for a while. one of these days i should make it fill up and see what happens./ |
[01:59:00] | jerky_3: | MrEntropy, i used azap, maybe it's different... i know with some of the other *zap you can specify a region. i just did like "azap 21" to search channel 21 |
[01:59:00] | jerky_3: | i believe channels.conf is separate from myth TV though, whichever *zap you use |
[02:00:00] | MrEntropy: | jerky_3: so you're saying you never used 'scan'? |
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[02:00:00] | jerky_3: | nope i didn't |
[02:00:00] | sanmarcos: | briand: so If I want to get sound in my PC (I am not hooked up to the tv), Id have to get the s video out adapter (the one to three) hook the whole thing to a minijack and plug it into my soundcards line in? |
[02:00:00] | MrEntropy: | jerky_3: interesting, so azap makes you specify the stuff at command line? |
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[02:01:00] | sanmarcos: | briand: I dont understand why since cat /dev/video0 > file gives me sound |
[02:03:00] | jerky_3: | yeah you just do ./azap <channel name> |
[02:03:00] | briand: | sanmarcos: because the sound you get out of a PVR-350 is sound that is embedded within the MPEG-2 file. |
[02:04:00] | jerky_3: | hm... maybe i did have to make a channels.conf for azap |
[02:04:00] | MrEntropy: | jerky_3: i was about to say =) |
[02:04:00] | briand: | sanmarcos: and, coincidentally, MPEG-2 is what the PVR-350 (and others) capture in the first place. |
[02:04:00] | jerky_3: | cause i had to do the name and not the number, like ./azap WPT-HD |
[02:04:00] | sanmarcos: | briand: the PVR350 captures in mpeg2 by default, cant Myth see that? |
[02:04:00] | jerky_3: | yeah you're right... but i remember doing some command iwth just numbers for non-HD |
[02:04:00] | briand: | sanmarcos: but, if you transcode to another format (MPEG-4, perhaps) you'll see video with no audio |
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[02:05:00] | jerky_3: | but anyway... i forgot all of that stuff :) but the point is, you don't need it for myth TV, so you gotta sit through that long scan |
[02:05:00] | briand: | ...because the video stream goes thru the pvr-350, but there's no embedded audio anymore (because it's not an MPEG-2 file with embedded audio) |
[02:05:00] | sanmarcos: | briand: why is that? ill record in mpeg2 and then convert it to divx or whatever |
[02:05:00] | flyr: | Is http://ivtvdriver.org/ temporarily down? |
[02:05:00] | sanmarcos: | flyr: its down |
[02:05:00] | MrEntropy: | jerky_3: hmmm, fair enough...what worries me is that it's just hanging at 5% |
[02:05:00] | sanmarcos: | briand: I just want to see TV in my pc, get audio and do what myth does. And record in mpeg2, ill trasncode later, is that possible or do I have to buy a cable? |
[02:05:00] | MrEntropy: | jerky_3: it's not frozen, it gets lock, then it looses lock, but it's always at 5 |
[02:06:00] | flyr: | sanmarcos: Naturally... the night I pick to upgrade ivtv... |
[02:06:00] | briand: | sanmarcos: then you'll need to build, buy, beg, borrow, or steal one of those $3 cables to pipe the audio |
[02:06:00] | sanmarcos: | flyr: use googles cache |
[02:06:00] | briand: | sanmarcos: no, you can do that |
[02:06:00] | sanmarcos: | briand: ? yes or no ? |
[02:06:00] | briand: | sanmarcos: I've had my mythtv box running for more than a year, and I don't have a cable. |
[02:07:00] | briand: | but you'll never hear any "system" sounds, or sounds from non-MPEG2 videos you might play via MythVideo |
[02:07:00] | sanmarcos: | I dont mind, anyways |
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[02:07:00] | Weezey: | atrpms is down. |
[02:07:00] | Weezey: | that' suckses. |
[02:07:00] | briand: | nor I. that's why i haven't rushed to build a cable. |
[02:08:00] | jerky_3: | MrEntropy, can you lock a channel with your dvb-apps and view it in mplayer? |
[02:08:00] | headtailgrep: | anyone else notice ivtvdriver.org is down? |
[02:08:00] | jerky_3: | anyone know what mythcommflags does? |
[02:08:00] | MrEntropy: | jerky_3: sure can |
[02:09:00] | jerky_3: | maybe you need to run mythtv-setup and reconfigure |
[02:09:00] | jerky_3: | i ended up configuring it several times before i could get it all to work |
[02:09:00] | MrEntropy: | jerky_3: all i want to know is whether i'm wasting my time by giving it a freq from the region file. |
[02:09:00] | MrEntropy: | jerky_3: you have to give it a frequency, there's no other way |
[02:10:00] | sanmarcos: | briand: ok, so in myth do you check the box that says use the PVR mpeg decocer? |
[02:11:00] | jerky_3: | hm, i dunno what to tell ya. i set up my card, set up the antenna, then set up an input for the card to use the antenna. then i told it to scan ATSC frequencies, and it had all the frequencies in there already, and then it scanned for about 5 minutes and came back with all of my channels |
[02:11:00] | sanmarcos: | briand: for that you need the ivtv-fb module and it outputs to the fb device as I know, it is for TV out |
[02:12:00] | sanmarcos: | briand: ivtvctl -y volume=65535 should set the volume |
[02:12:00] | MrEntropy: | jerky_3: what's ATSC? i know it's one of two options, i use DVB |
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[02:13:00] | sanmarcos: | briand: however I get no sound.. |
[02:13:00] | briand: | sanmarcos: yes, check the box. |
[02:13:00] | briand: | do you get a picture? |
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[02:13:00] | sanmarcos: | briand: cat /dev/video0 > file.mpg gives me a clear picture |
[02:13:00] | jerky_3: | DVB is the name of my device, /dev/dvb... it's my pcHDTV 3000, that's all i know about that. ATSC is the broadcast standard for HDTV in the US... or something along those lines. it's like NTSC, but... with an A :) |
[02:13:00] | briand: | sanmarcos: does it give you clear sound? |
[02:13:00] | sanmarcos: | briand: mute.. |
[02:14:00] | sanmarcos: | briand: ah no, there it is |
[02:14:00] | MrEntropy: | jerky_3: gotcha |
[02:15:00] | sanmarcos: | briand: how do I play a selected channel from the guide? |
[02:18:00] | briand: | sanmarcos: hit <Enter> on your remote, or the spacebar on an attached keyboard when the guide is highlighting a program you want to view |
[02:18:00] | briand: | oh, wait.. are you in the guide (for scheduling) or in the EPG ? |
[02:18:00] | sanmarcos: | no, on the watch tv guide |
[02:19:00] | sanmarcos: | Ive yet to set up the remote, lirc wont detect it, I suspect it has to do with /etc/lirc/hardware.conf |
[02:20:00] | briand: | okay, so if you've pulled up the guide while watching livetv, then enter or spacebar should change channel to the selected program. escape will exit the guide without changing channels |
[02:20:00] | FunkyELF: | * One or more files have been config protected...* To complete your install, you need to run this command:* * CONFIG_PROTECT="/var/www/localhost/htdocs/mythweb" etc-update |
[02:20:00] | FunkyELF: | that happened when I emerged mythweb....what does that command do? |
[02:20:00] | ** briand waits, silently, while myth 0.19 compiles... ** | |
[02:21:00] | sanmarcos: | briand: weird, wont change the channel, neither will UP DOWN, it is stuck in ione channel, can it be because I use ivtvctl ? |
[02:21:00] | briand: | no |
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[02:21:00] | sanmarcos: | I mean ivtv-tune |
[02:21:00] | briand: | ivtvctl is just a tool that allows you to send rudimentary control sequences to the loaded ivtv driver(s) |
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[02:22:00] | sanmarcos: | ivtv-tune -c I used to change channels, spacebar on the selected program on the live tv guide does nothing |
[02:22:00] | briand: | are you still viewing the /dev/video0 stream, or are you using myth? |
[02:22:00] | sanmarcos: | myth |
[02:22:00] | sanmarcos: | it works I just cant cahnge channels |
[02:22:00] | headtailgrep: | ANOTHER eastbound! |
[02:22:00] | headtailgrep: | oops |
[02:22:00] | briand: | what version of myth? |
[02:23:00] | headtailgrep: | ivtv0: Failed to load module tuner |
[02:23:00] | headtailgrep: | ivtv0: Failed to load module tda9887 |
[02:23:00] | headtailgrep: | i'm going to assume (am i right) these are the IVTV kernel modules. |
[02:23:00] | sanmarcos: | 0.18 |
[02:23:00] | briand: | sanmarcos: 0.19 should be (by default) in browse mode. pull up the OSD menu and browse |
[02:23:00] | headtailgrep: | i'm also going to assume these are what is causing me NOT to be able to tune properly. =) i had it working only once by setting tuner=47 but that no longer works.. |
[02:23:00] | sanmarcos: | M key |
[02:24:00] | briand: | left right moves forward/backward thru time in the guide.. up/down moves up and down channel. <enter> or <space> selects the channel and changes channels |
[02:24:00] | sanmarcos: | briand: I am on browse mode, and I try UP, DOWN, then spacebar or enter, and nothing |
[02:24:00] | sanmarcos: | QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range, I get that in the console |
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[02:25:00] | briand: | hmm. sounds like something's not quite right, sanmarcos |
[02:25:00] | sanmarcos: | thats news.. :) |
[02:27:00] | sanmarcos: | recording seems to work |
[02:27:00] | briand: | well, I would start by checking out what `dmesg` says, right after a boot-up. pay close attention to the lines between the '--start ivtv---' and '---end itvv--' |
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[02:28:00] | briand: | sanmarcos: lemme ask you... why didn't you install 0.19 instead of 0.18?? |
[02:29:00] | sanmarcos: | because there are no deb packages, and I am not into building a monster |
[02:29:00] | briand: | sanmarcos: for instance... in 0.19, say you're watching LiveTV, and you're 10–15 minutes into a really great movie... but then your mom calls, or your girlfriend comes over (etc, etc)... in 0.19 you can click 'record' and it'll save that whole show for ya. |
[02:29:00] | briand: | can't do that in 0.18 |
[02:30:00] | briand: | plus, 0.19 has "lossless MPEG-2 transcoding" ... referring to our earlier conversation, that allows you to trim out the commercials (or PBS pledge breaks, or whatever) from the recordings... |
[02:31:00] | briand: | 0.18 let's you transcode and trim out the commercials, etc... but not save it in MPEG-2. :) |
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[02:31:00] | sanmarcos: | yes I know about the benefits |
[02:31:00] | sanmarcos: | but I cant even get 18 to work right now |
[02:32:00] | sanmarcos: | maybe I should go to win and try one of their softwares |
[02:34:00] | sanmarcos: | backend says 2006-02–15 18:34:07.584 Channel(/dev/video0): CheckChannel failed. Please verify channel "" in the "setup" Channel Editor |
[02:35:00] | briand: | hmm |
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[02:35:00] | briand: | did you run mythfilldatabase, etc? |
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[02:36:00] | sanmarcos: | restarting mythbackend did it |
[02:36:00] | sanmarcos: | now I can move with up/down |
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[02:39:00] | DaSkreech: | Anyone uses ATI All in wonder? |
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[02:40:00] | sanmarcos: | briand: you cant watch one show and record another at the same time right? |
[02:41:00] | DaSkreech: | sanmarcos: Not with one card |
[02:41:00] | headtailgrep: | dadkreech: you can't use it. give up now. =) |
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[02:41:00] | sanmarcos: | briand: what did you put in your /etc/lirc/hardware.conf ? |
[02:41:00] | sanmarcos: | headtailgrep: good advice |
[02:42:00] | headtailgrep: | i've given up on ATI, even the non-all-in-wonder card (was going to use a regular ATI card for tv-out) |
[02:42:00] | sanmarcos: | headtailgrep: you might add "welcome to linux" :) |
[02:42:00] | headtailgrep: | NVIDIA is excellent. |
[02:42:00] | sanmarcos: | nvidia is good indeed |
[02:42:00] | headtailgrep: | i swapped my nvidia card with my ATI from windows box and it worked in a few minutes. |
[02:42:00] | sanmarcos: | their drivers are ok though |
[02:42:00] | headtailgrep: | well, compared to ATI, Nvidia is god. |
[02:42:00] | headtailgrep: | especially for older card support. |
[02:43:00] | headtailgrep: | i'm VERY dissapointed in ATI's linux support after all these years. |
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[02:43:00] | briand: | sanmarcos: you can, with one PVR-350 card, watch one previously recorded show while another is recording. To watch LiveTV while a recording is going on, you'll need another tuner (or two, or three ;) |
[02:43:00] | ** headtailgrep started with mach 64 cards ten years ago and they worked fine back then! ** | |
[02:43:00] | sanmarcos: | briand: I thought so, and another cable input |
[02:43:00] | briand: | sanmarcos: that's why I bought a PVR-500MCE — gives me two more tuners in one PCI slot |
[02:44:00] | briand: | ..and, given that the Pundit only _has_ two PCI slots, that just about fills it up. |
[02:44:00] | briand: | :) |
[02:45:00] | briand: | ..of course a second (or third) tuner also gives you PiP in LiveTV... |
[02:45:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | omg |
[02:45:00] | DaSkreech: | When would I need a IR blaster? |
[02:45:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | u know what i just thought? i want another pvr-150.. and i swore i didnt need more then 1 |
[02:46:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | GD |
[02:46:00] | headtailgrep: | i have an ATI tv-tuner (not all in wonder) on standby |
[02:46:00] | briand: | Yellow-Snow2: spring for the PVR-500MCE... it's two PVR-150s on a single card |
[02:46:00] | headtailgrep: | and a hauppage PVR 150 which i bought for this purpose.. |
[02:46:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | how much? |
[02:46:00] | headtailgrep: | unfortunately, my box won't hack a non MPEG-2 tuner.. |
[02:46:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | 150 ~ 60 |
[02:46:00] | briand: | DaSkreech: when you want to SEND IR events to an external device (such as a cable box) |
[02:46:00] | sanmarcos: | briand: do you happen to have your /etc/lirc/hardware.conf for the hauppage 350 remote? |
[02:46:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | mythweb is the coolest thing ever |
[02:47:00] | briand: | sanmarcos: yup... when the compile is done I can snag it. |
[02:47:00] | DaSkreech: | briand: So like a DISH Network ox |
[02:47:00] | DaSkreech: | box |
[02:47:00] | briand: | yes |
[02:47:00] | sanmarcos: | briand: thanks |
[02:48:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | hey guys |
[02:48:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | if u delete a channel on mythweb .. can u get it back? does it only delete the channel on mythweb? |
[02:48:00] | briand: | sanmarcos: you've got the grey/black remote, with the four color buttons on the bottom, right? |
[02:48:00] | sanmarcos: | briand: grey with color buttons |
[02:48:00] | Weezey: | Yellow-Snow2: it deletes it in the table |
[02:49:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | can u get it back by unchecking delete? |
[02:49:00] | Weezey: | Yellow-Snow2: it will come back if you don't delete it in your zap2it profile |
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[02:49:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | i just want to delete the listing on mythweb |
[02:49:00] | briand: | sanmarcos: they're both grey with color buttons... are your color buttons all in a row at the bottom of the remote? |
[02:49:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | so u dont see it all |
[02:49:00] | Agrajag-: | Yellow-Snow2: use the favourites option? |
[02:49:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | on mythweb? |
[02:49:00] | Agrajag-: | Yellow-Snow2: yeah |
[02:49:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | i do that but how do u do that on mythweb |
[02:49:00] | sanmarcos: | briand: yeah, I am compiling lirc-source though |
[02:49:00] | Agrajag-: | it's in the settings |
[02:50:00] | Agrajag-: | you can choose to only display favourite channels |
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[02:50:00] | briand: | tell mythweb to only show favorites. mark only favorites |
[02:50:00] | sanmarcos: | briand: its this one http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/PVR-350_Remote_Quick_Guide |
[02:50:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | a |
[02:50:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | thanks Agrajag! |
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[02:50:00] | briand: | sanmarcos: yeah, okay.. that's the same one I have |
[02:50:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | now if i only knew how to delete video_ts! i tried umount and all |
[02:51:00] | briand: | Yellow-Snow2: what is 'video_ts' ? ...and where is it? |
[02:51:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | um mythtv/video/cdrom/video_ts/ |
[02:51:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | it wont delete for the life of me.. like 12 files |
[02:51:00] | briand: | Yellow-Snow2: umount will only unmount mounted volumes.. did you previously mount it? |
[02:52:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | idk it gives me the error read-only system file |
[02:52:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | when i try to delete |
[02:52:00] | briand: | are you superuser? |
[02:52:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | i tried it under root |
[02:52:00] | briand: | chmod 666, then try it |
[02:53:00] | briand: | and, if it's a directory, then 'rm' wont work.. you'll need to use 'rmdir' |
[02:53:00] | ** briand waves to xpis ** | |
[02:57:00] | Weezey: | rm -r works |
[02:57:00] | ** Weezey likes rm -r ** | |
[02:57:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | um some reason.. like |
[02:57:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | i logged under vncX |
[02:57:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | went to it.. the folder cdrom was in blue |
[02:57:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | did rm cdrom and it deleted it |
[02:57:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | i have no clue why it worked or anything |
[02:57:00] | squish102: | atrpms.net down? |
[02:57:00] | Weezey: | yeah |
[02:58:00] | briand: | squish102: yup |
[02:58:00] | squish102: | ahhhh nooooooo |
[02:58:00] | squish102: | just installed a fresh fc4 to try get 0.19 up and running |
[02:58:00] | briand: | yeah, i know. I need to get lirc-kdml-blahblahblah from there. |
[02:58:00] | Weezey: | and now you must wait |
[02:59:00] | squish102: | it was up earlier... i guess he could not take the load |
[02:59:00] | Weezey: | stupid gay hard drives. |
[02:59:00] | briand: | my luck... because my network was down earlier.. when I got reconnected to the world, the part of the world i needed to access was down. :( |
[02:59:00] | squish102: | lol |
[02:59:00] | dev-: | i hate it when the worlds down |
[03:00:00] | briand: | yeah. |
[03:00:00] | dev-: | like they have no concept of high availability or something |
[03:00:00] | dev-: | :P |
[03:00:00] | briand: | on the plus side... i locked my car keys in the car this afternoon. |
[03:00:00] | dev-: | 1800onstar! |
[03:00:00] | Weezey: | down = not permitted anymore. My phone goes over my internet connection, it must be 100%. |
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[03:00:00] | briand: | ...gave me an opportunity to try out the lockpick set I was given. |
[03:00:00] | squish102: | risky Weezey |
[03:01:00] | briand: | had it open in about 3 seconds. :) |
[03:01:00] | Weezey: | squish102: nah, it's pretty good. |
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[03:01:00] | squish102: | is lockpick sets not illegal? |
[03:01:00] | briand: | nope. |
[03:01:00] | navreet: | is mythtv uninstallable under 64-bit breezy? |
[03:01:00] | briand: | carrying them around with you (possession of burglary tools) is, though. |
[03:01:00] | squish102: | Weezey, my phone is up 99.9% of the time.. internet about 75% of the time |
[03:02:00] | briand: | i don't carry 'em around. I keep 'em safe at home. |
[03:02:00] | squish102: | ahh briand, that makes sence |
[03:02:00] | Weezey: | squish102: ewww, I have about 90% uptime on both. |
[03:02:00] | briand: | squish102: yeah.. just a good thing that I locked myself out of my car in the driveway, not halfway across town! |
[03:03:00] | squish102: | in the last 5 years i remember about 2 days without telephone, i have a t least 2 days every month without internet :( |
[03:03:00] | Weezey: | really? your connection sucks |
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[03:03:00] | squish102: | road runner cable sucks |
[03:03:00] | Weezey: | I have less than 2 hours once per month at most. |
[03:04:00] | briand: | I'm thinking about setting up a DVB-S card, and grabbing some FTA signals and piping them thru my mythbox. |
[03:04:00] | briand: | hiya xris :) |
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[03:04:00] | Weezey: | I have less than 2 hours once per month at most. |
[03:04:00] | briand: | yay! the make has finished! |
[03:04:00] | Weezey: | shut up weezey |
[03:05:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | hey how does everyone get dvd posters for their mythtv? |
[03:05:00] | squish102: | any1 have any info on atrpms? like what happened |
[03:05:00] | briand: | now, I just need to wait for commflagging to finish on the two shows that just stopped recording at 10:00... and I can shut down the backend, back up the database, and `make install` |
[03:05:00] | Weezey: | dvd posters? |
[03:05:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | er dvd like pictures |
[03:05:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | of the dvd |
[03:05:00] | Weezey: | covers.cc |
[03:06:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | any script or anything? |
[03:06:00] | briand: | sanmarcos: what was the file you wanted? |
[03:06:00] | Weezey: | I've been meaning to write one |
[03:06:00] | Weezey: | but they have a mass of javascript to run through first. |
[03:06:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | would be very ncice |
[03:06:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | hm |
[03:06:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | time to see if i can use mythweb via phon |
[03:06:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | t.t |
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[03:09:00] | sanmarcos: | briand: hold on |
[03:09:00] | briand: | sanmarcos: got it. |
[03:10:00] | headtailgrep: | where can i get tveeprom-ivtv, tuner-ivtv* ? |
[03:10:00] | briand: | sanmarcos: on my system, it's /etc/lircd.conf |
[03:10:00] | headtailgrep: | any other sources other than the ivtvdriver.org site (which is dOWN!) |
[03:10:00] | briand: | actually, if they *must* have the -ivtv names, you can only get them from atrpms, which is down. |
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[03:11:00] | headtailgrep: | yeah, MF both are down |
[03:11:00] | headtailgrep: | well, i think i need them. they aren't working. |
[03:11:00] | headtailgrep: | i have tveeprom.ko, etc |
[03:11:00] | headtailgrep: | and modprobe won't load them. |
[03:11:00] | briand: | really? why not? |
[03:11:00] | headtailgrep: | and IVTV won't find them either, fails loading. |
[03:11:00] | headtailgrep: | i have no idea, will paste: |
[03:11:00] | briand: | brand new install, or upgrading? |
[03:11:00] | headtailgrep: | [root@serv0r video]# /sbin/modprobe tveeprom |
[03:11:00] | headtailgrep: | FATAL: Module tveeprom_ivtv not found. |
[03:11:00] | headtailgrep: | brand new. |
[03:12:00] | sanmarcos: | briand: what is your lircrc? the defualt provided by myth? |
[03:12:00] | headtailgrep: | i started installing mythtv a few days ago. |
[03:12:00] | headtailgrep: | i'm almost done ... |
[03:12:00] | sanmarcos: | briand: I mean on the wiki, it is does not provide all buttons |
[03:12:00] | headtailgrep: | this is one of the last hurdles. |
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[03:12:00] | headtailgrep: | ivtv0: Failed to load module tuner |
[03:12:00] | headtailgrep: | ivtv0: Failed to load module tda9887 |
[03:12:00] | headtailgrep: | ivtv0: Could not detect tuner standard, defaulting to NTSC. |
[03:12:00] | headtailgrep: | etc... |
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[03:12:00] | headtailgrep: | (it fails on all the modules,including tveeprom, etc) |
[03:12:00] | briand: | sanmarcos: /etc/lircd.conf is what defines the remote. lircrc is what defines what each button does |
[03:13:00] | headtailgrep: | i have all the aliases set properly. |
[03:13:00] | headtailgrep: | # yum install ivtv-kmdl-$KVER |
[03:13:00] | fatdave: | hello all! anyone hear any problems with the ivtv drivers and the pvr-350? Mine works, but once in a while it will pause. like its skipping |
[03:13:00] | headtailgrep: | i think THIS is the package that contains the IVTV kernel modules. |
[03:13:00] | briand: | ah... you're trying to install the ATrpms, headtailgrep |
[03:13:00] | headtailgrep: | i'm pretty sure i have it intalled, but ATRPMS is down dammit |
[03:13:00] | briand: | and ATrpms is down. |
[03:13:00] | headtailgrep: | and so is ivtvdriver.org |
[03:13:00] | headtailgrep: | ! |
[03:14:00] | briand: | ivtv-kmdl- is, in fact, the package containing the ivtv stuff. |
[03:14:00] | headtailgrep: | so i can't confirm. |
[03:14:00] | headtailgrep: | let me see if i have it in my yum cache. |
[03:15:00] | headtailgrep: | btw, do one of these kernel modules handle sound too? |
[03:15:00] | headtailgrep: | (decoding from the coax of course) |
[03:15:00] | briand: | sound? ALSA handles sound, in most distributions |
[03:15:00] | headtailgrep: | what decodes the sound from the coaxial signal? |
[03:15:00] | sanmarcos: | briand: yeah but th .mythtv/lircrc that handles the bindings |
[03:16:00] | sanmarcos: | briand: for the 350, did you make your own? |
[03:16:00] | headtailgrep: | something in the hauupage card must do it. |
[03:16:00] | briand: | sanmarcos: right |
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[03:16:00] | fatdave: | is Beirdo still around? whats he been up to |
[03:16:00] | briand: | sanmarcos: i modified one that was modified by Jarod, that was modified by Brad Templeton, that was originally written by someone I -don't- know. ;) |
[03:17:00] | headtailgrep: | -- /var/cache/yum/atrpms/packages/ivtv-kmdl-2.6.15–1.1831_FC4–0.4.2&nda sh;101.rhfc4.at.i686.rpm |
[03:17:00] | briand: | sanmarcos: but you're welcome to it. pretty generic.. i use the color buttons (mostly) for PiP stuff. |
[03:17:00] | sanmarcos: | briand: can you pastebin it please ? :) I need a base to modify upon it |
[03:17:00] | headtailgrep: | i've downloaded this, and should have installed it. |
[03:17:00] | headtailgrep: | ! |
[03:17:00] | briand: | sanmarcos: sure. |
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[03:17:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | wow xine volume is really low |
[03:18:00] | headtailgrep: | package ivtv-kmdl-2.6.15–1.1831_FC4–0.4.2–101.rhfc4.at is already installed |
[03:18:00] | headtailgrep: | ok, so now, wtf? |
[03:18:00] | headtailgrep: | i've searched for the -ivtv KMDL and not found them. re-named the ones i found (tveeprom.ko) and no dice. |
[03:18:00] | ** headtailgrep tries stuff ** | |
[03:19:00] | headtailgrep: | do these modules need to be installed before ivtv? |
[03:20:00] | kormoc: | headtailgrep, they come with ivtv |
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[03:20:00] | headtailgrep: | i can't find / | grep ivtv them. |
[03:20:00] | headtailgrep: | they aren't there. |
[03:20:00] | ** headtailgrep confused ** | |
[03:21:00] | kormoc: | /lib/modules/kernel_version/extra/ivtv.ko is where they should bo |
[03:21:00] | headtailgrep: | so IVTV will load them. |
[03:21:00] | headtailgrep: | i don't have to explicitly modprobe 'em |
[03:22:00] | briand: | sanmarcos: http://pastebin.ca/41805 |
[03:22:00] | sanmarcos: | how do I acces the Guide while recording+watching? |
[03:22:00] | sanmarcos: | M just pops upa osd menu to control recording |
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[03:22:00] | sanmarcos: | briand: thanks :) |
[03:22:00] | briand: | sanmarcos: no problem |
[03:23:00] | macroexp: | mythweb 0.19 says to me "Error |
[03:23:00] | macroexp: | Please install the MySQL libraries for PHP." |
[03:23:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | briand thats for buttons that jumps to video ect? |
[03:23:00] | macroexp: | (they are installed) |
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[03:24:00] | briand: | Yellow-Snow2: yup. as long as you have your jump points defined. :) |
[03:24:00] | briand: | Yellow-Snow2: actually, it configures -every- button on the remote, not just the 'video' etc buttons |
[03:24:00] | DartmanX1: | this may be a FAQ: I just set up. When I do a "watch tv", the video and audio skip pretty bad. any help? |
[03:29:00] | headtailgrep: | WOOP |
[03:29:00] | headtailgrep: | fixed it |
[03:29:00] | headtailgrep: | had to rpm --install --force the RPM. |
[03:30:00] | headtailgrep: | now to go watch some tv. maybe i have sound? i'll find out in a minute. =) |
[03:30:00] | ** headtailgrep & ** | |
[03:30:00] | briand: | he just backgrounded himself. |
[03:30:00] | Weezey: | heh |
[03:30:00] | briand: | he didn't strike me as the daemonic type. |
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[03:32:00] | Gumby: | does anyone know if there is a way to bold the font for my OSD theme? |
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[03:33:00] | briand: | Gumby: sure, why not? |
[03:33:00] | Weezey: | <B> |
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[03:34:00] | Gumby: | any idea the syntax? not sure that <B> will do it... but if thats all, where might I put it? |
[03:35:00] | briand: | service headtailgrep status |
[03:35:00] | briand: | hmm. no output. he's not a very well written daemon, then. |
[03:35:00] | briand: | Gumby: around the text you want bolded? |
[03:35:00] | Gumby: | briand: for the OSD file? |
[03:36:00] | briand: | i assume you're editing the .xml file, yes? |
[03:36:00] | Gumby: | yes |
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[03:38:00] | Kelerion-flux: | kormoc, you still about? |
[03:39:00] | Gumby: | so you have to edit within the "textarea" section and not in the font section? |
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[03:40:00] | flyr: | Going to ivtv-0.4.2, what mythconverg table(s) need to be updated? Is it only 'capturecard'? |
[03:41:00] | jnunez: | flyr: what card do you have? OVR? |
[03:41:00] | jnunez: | PVR? |
[03:41:00] | flyr: | jnunez: pvr 250 |
[03:42:00] | Weezey: | Ovarian Video Recorders are awesome. |
[03:42:00] | jnunez: | cool. I just upgraded to ivtv-0.4.2 and it now sees my PVR-150 as the 250 and the remote no longer works |
[03:42:00] | jnunez: | Weezey: LOL |
[03:43:00] | xdfsdsdfsfd: | ok |
[03:43:00] | Kelerion-flux: | kormoc, this is where I got to: http://pastebin.com/557138 and I did at least get 3 monitors working.. 1 was at a small resolution (with a large view point) and was a clone of 3.. and 2 I couldn't even get my mouse to.. |
[03:43:00] | xdfsdsdfsfd: | mythtv works beautiful now, but no sound. |
[03:43:00] | xdfsdsdfsfd: | thanks guys for your help =-) |
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[03:43:00] | Kelerion-flux: | but 3 looked perfect |
[03:44:00] | Kelerion-flux: | but it seemed to freeze the machine after a minute or so.. |
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[03:46:00] | Kelerion-flux: | am guessing I don't need a seperate "Device" section for each output of the dual head.. but am not sure now what to do to fix it |
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[03:48:00] | briand: | hmm. well, I'm -almost- up and running with 0.19. Getting a message that my frontend client uses protocol 19 and the backend uses 26. I did a 'make install' .. so shouldn't they both be 0.19 now? |
[03:48:00] | braddabug: | if i've got an mpeg2 encoding tuner card, the .nuv are just mpeg2 files, right? |
[03:49:00] | briand: | braddabug: yes. |
[03:49:00] | braddabug: | when i try to watch one in totem theres no sond |
[03:49:00] | braddabug: | *sound |
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[03:50:00] | braddabug: | anyone know why? |
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[03:54:00] | Kelerion-flux: | braddabug, what about other players? vlc for example? |
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[03:55:00] | k-man_: | is there any advantage to running mytthv in 64 bit linux? |
[03:55:00] | headtailgrep: | why would you want to? |
[03:55:00] | k-man_: | well |
[03:55:00] | k-man_: | is it faster than in 32 bit? |
[03:55:00] | k-man_: | or less load on the machine? |
[03:55:00] | headtailgrep: | what will be faster? |
[03:55:00] | k-man_: | or anything |
[03:55:00] | rjune: | uhm, no |
[03:55:00] | k-man_: | thats what I'm wondering |
[03:55:00] | headtailgrep: | what's your load like now =) |
[03:55:00] | rjune: | there is no advantage |
[03:56:00] | headtailgrep: | it's geeky. |
[03:56:00] | rjune: | now, the backend with a huge DB may see an advantage |
[03:56:00] | rjune: | but I don't think that most users are gonna run into that problem |
[03:56:00] | k-man_: | Notorious, i'm trying to decide if i should/need to get a 64 bit amd cpu and mb in the mythtv box i'm specing |
[03:56:00] | headtailgrep: | why not get one ? |
[03:56:00] | sanmarcos: | how much does 1 hour weight with the "High Quality" preset ? (I am on PVR 350 that does MPEG2 Out of the box) |
[03:56:00] | headtailgrep: | you';ll be future proof |
[03:56:00] | k-man_: | headtailgrep, yeah.... |
[03:57:00] | headtailgrep: | i'm assuming IA32 versions work fine though |
[03:57:00] | headtailgrep: | on that CPU |
[03:57:00] | headtailgrep: | if not... |
[03:57:00] | braddabug: | well, vlc works fine |
[03:57:00] | headtailgrep: | then be careful |
[03:57:00] | braddabug: | weird |
[03:57:00] | k-man_: | headtailgrep, and should i install debian64 on it? i have no experience of running a 64 bit os |
[03:57:00] | headtailgrep: | can't help you there |
[03:57:00] | headtailgrep: | i run older hardware. |
[03:57:00] | headtailgrep: | PIII/600 is my mythtv box. |
[03:57:00] | k-man_: | i think i'd rather stick with 32 bit unless there is a clear advantage to running 64bit |
[03:57:00] | headtailgrep: | best machuie i have is 1.6 GHZ PIV |
[03:57:00] | Kelerion-flux: | braddabug, I don't use totem.. is that a gstreamer app? |
[03:58:00] | headtailgrep: | ok, so my mythtv is not playing back any sound, but my soundsystem is working properly. |
[03:58:00] | k-man_: | headtailgrep, is your pIII 600 fast enough to decode dvb? |
[03:58:00] | headtailgrep: | what may be the problem? |
[03:58:00] | headtailgrep: | i have a hauppage card with mpeg-2 encoder card |
[03:58:00] | headtailgrep: | which makes it fine. =) |
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[03:58:00] | headtailgrep: | hauppage 150... |
[03:58:00] | headtailgrep: | $89 CDN |
[03:59:00] | braddabug: | Kelerion-flux, not sure |
[04:00:00] | Kelerion-flux: | well at least you know your recordings are fine |
[04:02:00] | headtailgrep: | how does mythtv grab sound? |
[04:02:00] | headtailgrep: | would the capture card (in my case, hauppage 150) mpeg encoder plop sound in the stream? |
[04:02:00] | headtailgrep: | or does mythtv combine them into it's buffer. |
[04:03:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | hey guys.. i removed all the phone buttons in the xml but they are still there? |
[04:04:00] | sanmarcos: | how much does 1 hour weight with the "High Quality" preset ? (I am on PVR 350 that does MPEG2 Out of the box) anybody? |
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[04:04:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | idk default for me is 1 hour = 2 gig |
[04:04:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | imo it wouldn't be much over that |
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[04:05:00] | headtailgrep: | NOTE: the following instructions do not apply to PVR-250/350 encoders; the MPEG-2 file will have the audio embedded in the stream so it is not accessible using /dev/dsp. |
[04:05:00] | headtailgrep: | can anyone confirm this is the case with the 150? |
[04:05:00] | Kelerion-flux: | 150 is just a new 250.. so yes |
[04:06:00] | headtailgrep: | hmmm |
[04:06:00] | headtailgrep: | time to play, bbl |
[04:06:00] | squish102: | http://ivtvdriver.org/ and atrpms.net down at the same time?? or is it my internet? |
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[04:06:00] | headtailgrep: | they are both down |
[04:06:00] | headtailgrep: | DAMMIT |
[04:07:00] | Kelerion-flux: | yup |
[04:07:00] | squish102: | just a fine time to decide to rebuild my myth box |
[04:07:00] | dev-: | i need to read how to see recorded livetv programs in recorded programs heh |
[04:07:00] | Kelerion-flux: | huh? |
[04:08:00] | dev-: | recorded livetv, new in .19 |
[04:08:00] | dev-: | instead of ringbuffer, its recorded now |
[04:08:00] | Kelerion-flux: | press M.. change group |
[04:08:00] | Kelerion-flux: | in recorded programs |
[04:08:00] | dev-: | heh thats lame. yet another key to find a button for on the remote.. |
[04:09:00] | Kelerion-flux: | it's the menu key.. you should have it already |
[04:09:00] | dev-: | hrm i tried that |
[04:09:00] | dev-: | it didnt bring up anything |
[04:09:00] | Kelerion-flux: | in "Watch Recordings"? |
[04:09:00] | dev-: | yeah.. |
[04:10:00] | dev-: | In the Watch Recordings Screen |
[04:10:00] | dev-: | - M to change the view or to set a group password |
[04:10:00] | dev-: | hrmph.. |
[04:10:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | hey guys.. i removed all the phone buttons in the xml but they are still there? |
[04:10:00] | Kelerion-flux: | works fine here.. |
[04:11:00] | dev-: | hrm. i know ive been drinking, but i know i tried that. yeah, it works fine on my desktop |
[04:13:00] | headtailgrep: | well, sound definately isn't working. |
[04:13:00] | headtailgrep: | cat /dev/video0 is not producing a video with sound. |
[04:13:00] | headtailgrep: | (sound works in KDE) |
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[04:14:00] | xanderp: | anyone here used the myth2ipod yet? wondering if it is worth the effort to install. |
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[04:14:00] | Russ: | whats up with 0.19 taken so much longer to tune? |
[04:15:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | hm knoppmyth site is down |
[04:15:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | maybe an update |
[04:15:00] | Kelerion-flux: | longer? it's supposed to be quicker |
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[04:16:00] | GvnMcCld: | Any one got a good site for getting tvout on a PVR350 to work in ubuntu? |
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[04:18:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | i really wish they would fix the music |
[04:18:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | part of mythtv |
[04:19:00] | k-man_: | Yellow-Snow2, yeah |
[04:19:00] | k-man_: | me too |
[04:20:00] | Russ: | its about 6–8 seconds now when I change channels |
[04:20:00] | Russ: | backend with 2 bttv cards |
[04:20:00] | Russ: | frontend on my system |
[04:21:00] | Russ: | it takes 2 seconds before anything at all happens (the osd of what is on the next channel) |
[04:21:00] | squish102: | Yellow-Snow2 knoppmyth site is up, and no update |
[04:22:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | not for me |
[04:22:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | :: shrug :: |
[04:22:00] | squish102: | http://www.mysettopbox.tv/knoppmyth.html ? |
[04:22:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | yea |
[04:23:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | thats its down |
[04:23:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | thats your cookies |
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[04:24:00] | squish102: | its a conspiracy.. i tell u |
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[04:28:00] | headtailgrep: | where can i grab v4l-cx25840.fw for a Hauppage PCR 150? |
[04:28:00] | headtailgrep: | PVR |
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[04:29:00] | sanmarcos: | headtailgrep: see the Firmware wikipage on the ivtv web |
[04:29:00] | sanmarcos: | headtailgrep: it has detailed instructions |
[04:29:00] | headtailgrep: | once that site is back up, ok. |
[04:29:00] | sanmarcos: | try cache:URL in google |
[04:29:00] | sanmarcos: | see the text only cache if that fails |
[04:29:00] | sanmarcos: | that is what I did today |
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[04:31:00] | sanmarcos: | I like Counselor Troi |
[04:32:00] | Gumby: | anyone here use an irblaster? looking in to using one but not sure of the difficulty involved. wondering if an IRman receiver (from evation.com) is the same thing |
[04:33:00] | headtailgrep: | thanks sanmarcos. |
[04:33:00] | headtailgrep: | text only google cache worked. |
[04:34:00] | headtailgrep: | i think i'm good to go, now to tet. |
[04:34:00] | headtailgrep: | test |
[04:35:00] | sanmarcos: | headtailgrep: msg me if you need anything |
[04:35:00] | sanmarcos: | I just configured a 350 here |
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[04:37:00] | j-rod: | why in the blue hell am I too stupid to get mythweb working tonight? |
[04:38:00] | dev-: | heh its pretty easy.. |
[04:38:00] | dev-: | allowoverride all seems to be tripping up most people |
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[04:38:00] | dev-: | and modify your db shit in .htaccess |
[04:38:00] | sanmarcos: | its all in apache |
[04:39:00] | j-rod: | the htaccess file says I can have only AllowOverride Options |
[04:39:00] | dev-: | i didnt have any probs upgradin from .18 to 19, not with mythweb anyway |
[04:39:00] | sanmarcos: | see httpd.conf apache2.conf, try #apache, check the <Directory> setting on the htpasswd dir and the myth dir |
[04:39:00] | dev-: | the table lock grant that mythtv user needs was a royal freakin pita though |
[04:39:00] | dev-: | since its not documented |
[04:39:00] | dev-: | heh |
[04:39:00] | sanmarcos: | does anybody have a "myth" session for gdm? |
[04:40:00] | j-rod: | db shit points to the right place, just tried w/AllowOverride All, still getting an error 500 |
[04:40:00] | sanmarcos: | tail -f /var/log/apache/access.log |
[04:40:00] | sanmarcos: | error.log I meant |
[04:40:00] | j-rod: | been there, done that |
[04:40:00] | dev-: | and checkout your errorlog |
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[04:40:00] | j-rod: | nothing there either |
[04:40:00] | sanmarcos: | see #apache for apache related issues |
[04:40:00] | sanmarcos: | much more help there |
[04:41:00] | dev-: | 500 not 503? |
[04:41:00] | j-rod: | yup |
[04:41:00] | dev-: | you should definitely have something in your errorlog for a 500. |
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[04:41:00] | sanmarcos: | yep, check your errolog |
[04:42:00] | j-rod: | making progress now, things are slightly better since moving from Options to All |
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[04:44:00] | sanmarcos: | anyways lets hope myth saves the day |
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[04:45:00] | j-rod: | okay, I'm officially an idiot |
[04:45:00] | j-rod: | got it |
[04:45:00] | dev-: | heh ;p |
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[04:46:00] | j-rod: | don't mix-n-match parameters between authtype basic and digest |
[04:46:00] | j-rod: | was trying to use the same auth file my svn setup uses. d'oh. |
[04:48:00] | j-rod: | yay, now set to enforce use of ssl too |
[04:48:00] | xdfsdsdfsfd: | yay! |
[04:48:00] | xdfsdsdfsfd: | mytytv works! |
[04:48:00] | xdfsdsdfsfd: | thanks for your help. |
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[04:51:00] | j-rod: | xris, it would appear that AllowOverride Options isn't sufficient, as the README would suggest... (At least on FC) |
[04:51:00] | j-rod: | leads to an internal server error (500) for me |
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[04:53:00] | dev-: | wow there are lots of new settings in .19 |
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[04:53:00] | scott: | mythtv is fun for the whole family |
[04:53:00] | Yellow-Snow: | wow |
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[04:53:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i wish i had a deskjob |
[04:53:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i would so watch tv all day |
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[04:57:00] | dev-: | streaming tv to work does help the day go by |
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[04:59:00] | Yellow-Snow: | whats that movie where all the endmates use massive teamwork and break out the prison? |
[04:59:00] | dev-: | movie or tv series? |
[04:59:00] | Yellow-Snow: | movie |
[05:00:00] | dev-: | movie i dunno, but sounds like prison break |
[05:00:00] | Yellow-Snow: | they like used lunch plates to put up a shield vs them |
[05:01:00] | Yellow-Snow: | something like fotress or something |
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[05:03:00] | Nerv_01: | Hey everyone |
[05:04:00] | Nerv_01: | anyone experience issues with too much input with the remote on a pvr-150? |
[05:05:00] | Yellow-Snow: | nope |
[05:05:00] | Nerv_01: | Doh, everytime I press a button it continues to take input |
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[05:06:00] | Nerv_01: | as if I kepy pressing it |
[05:06:00] | Nerv_01: | kept* |
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[05:07:00] | Yellow-Snow: | The Last Castle |
[05:07:00] | Yellow-Snow: | is the movie |
[05:08:00] | Yellow-Snow: | great movie |
[05:08:00] | Nerv_01: | hmm |
[05:08:00] | Nerv_01: | never seen it |
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[05:09:00] | j-rod: | for those who were trying earlier, atrpms.net is back up |
[05:09:00] | j-rod: | (and subsequently, ivtvdriver.org |
[05:09:00] | Yellow-Snow: | hm this 2inch speaker.. i wonder if i can set it up so it beeps everytime someone logs on via mythweb |
[05:09:00] | Kelerion-flux: | Redford film.. very good film |
[05:09:00] | Kelerion-flux: | are those two sites related? ie on same server? |
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[05:10:00] | scottder: | weee atrpms seems to be working again |
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[05:15:00] | MrEntropy: | where can i get a "what's new in 0.19" type listing, a changelog at that? |
[05:15:00] | Kelerion-flux: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Release_Notes_-_0.19 |
[05:16:00] | MrEntropy: | thanks |
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[05:18:00] | Yellow-Snow: | This machine's load average: |
[05:18:00] | Yellow-Snow: | what does that mean? |
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[05:20:00] | Agrajag-: | number of processes that have to wait using the processor over the last 1,5,15 minutes |
[05:21:00] | jodanlime: | do I need to have the mythtv computer connected to the internet? |
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[05:21:00] | Agrajag-: | jodanlime: no. but the internet is normally the best (only) way to get guide data |
[05:21:00] | Kelerion-flux: | unless your using dvb |
[05:21:00] | Agrajag-: | "you're" |
[05:22:00] | Agrajag-: | and i'm using dvb and i still need to be connected to the net if i want guide data |
[05:22:00] | jodanlime: | Agrajag-, well, I just tried using mythtv with ubuntu and it just kinda quit on me |
[05:22:00] | xris: | someone looking for me? |
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[05:22:00] | jodanlime: | Agrajag-, do I need to have a tvtuner, I was just kinda gunna check it out |
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[05:22:00] | navreet: | where can I get tv listings? |
[05:22:00] | Agrajag-: | jodanlime: well you're not going to be able to watch much tv without a tv tuner are you |
[05:23:00] | Kelerion-flux: | your in Aus.. and apparently dvb guide data is crap there |
[05:23:00] | Kelerion-flux: | and noted on the grammar, thanks. |
[05:23:00] | Agrajag-: | not very well noted because you just did it again :) |
[05:23:00] | jodanlime: | Agrajag-, yeah, I just wanted to check it out and see if it was worth my money to buy a tvtuner for my pc |
[05:24:00] | jodanlime: | what is the easiest tvtuner to set up for linux? |
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[05:25:00] | Kelerion-flux: | I didn't say I was going to change my grammar – I just noted it and thanked you. |
[05:25:00] | MrEntropy: | jodanlime: any tuner for which modules exist in the kernel that came with your distribution =) |
[05:25:00] | jodanlime: | MrEntropy, how do I find that out? |
[05:25:00] | MrEntropy: | jodanlime: *drumroll*....google! |
[05:26:00] | dev-: | lol |
[05:26:00] | jodanlime: | MrEntropy, lol, shoulda knew that huh? ok, thanks |
[05:26:00] | k-man_: | its not too bad the data in australia |
[05:26:00] | k-man_: | it is scraped off the channel 9 website much to the chagrin |
[05:27:00] | jodanlime: | so, with my initial setup (the first screen) I choose local, was I supposed to do that? |
[05:27:00] | Agrajag-: | k-man_: we were talking the eit data you get with dvb, which is only now and next |
[05:28:00] | k-man_: | oh right |
[05:28:00] | k-man_: | yeah, thats crap |
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[05:29:00] | feld: | hey guys I have a minor problem |
[05:29:00] | feld: | 0.19 wants to load channel pix even though I have it set off. It is slowing down the guide a LOT. How do I resolve this? |
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[05:34:00] | j-rod: | lovely |
[05:35:00] | j-rod: | my master backend, which has been stable for ages, locks up hard almost right away now w/the Airstar HD5000 added... :( |
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[05:38:00] | ThalesOfMiletus: | Does anybody know how to configure a PVR-350 to encode in a format that can be burned to a playable DVD without 7hrs of transcoding? |
[05:38:00] | dev-: | 7hrs of transcoding? wtf are you transcoding to |
[05:38:00] | ThalesOfMiletus: | Exactly my point |
[05:39:00] | ThalesOfMiletus: | I copy the mpg files from my linux box to my windows machine (where I have the DVD burner) |
[05:39:00] | ThalesOfMiletus: | use nero to create a playable DVD and it has to transcode a 2hr movie (takes 7hrs to complete) |
[05:40:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | ThalesOfMiletus: I think if you record at valid DVD resolution and audio settings, then all you have to do is remultiplex the file and you can burn to DVD. Select the DVD Special 2 mpeg format in the recording profile. |
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[05:41:00] | ThalesOfMiletus: | That's what I thought, but I tried that and it didn't work. i must be getting something wrong |
[05:41:00] | dev-: | as long as you record in valid dvd resolution, it takes little to no time to burn to dvd |
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[05:41:00] | dev-: | i use dvdauthor to do it, forget how long it took exactly, but it was quick |
[05:41:00] | dev-: | then growisofs and done |
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[05:42:00] | ThalesOfMiletus: | When I had the PVR running on windows it was quick too |
[05:43:00] | ThalesOfMiletus: | I'll take a look at dvdauthor |
[05:43:00] | ThalesOfMiletus: | I hate nero anyway |
[05:43:00] | ShockValue: | j-rod: at least you know where to start debugging :) |
[05:43:00] | dev-: | dvdauthor is for *nix |
[05:43:00] | ThalesOfMiletus: | Second question is how do I cut the commercials that are flagged out of the file before burning |
[05:44:00] | j-rod: | yanked the HD5000, put the PVR-250 back in... |
[05:44:00] | dev-: | as suggested you'd probably want to check your recording resolution to make sure its correct for dvd, therefore not having to transcode to the correct one |
[05:44:00] | j-rod: | so far, looking better... |
[05:44:00] | dev-: | you can transcode them out in myth useing cutlists |
[05:44:00] | dev-: | its quick as well, since its not going frame by frame :) |
[05:45:00] | ThalesOfMiletus: | Alright.. thanks for the keywords, I can probably find the documents now. |
[05:48:00] | dev-: | np =] |
[05:48:00] | briand: | okay... this is strange. |
[05:48:00] | briand: | if I run mythbackend --version it says I'm running 0.19 ...if I run mythfrontend --version, it also says I'm running 0.19 |
[05:48:00] | Russ: | wow |
[05:48:00] | Russ: | that is weird |
[05:49:00] | Russ: | you should call somebody |
[05:49:00] | briand: | and, yet... throughout the program, and in running mythfilldatabase, I get "protocol version mismatch (frontend=26,backend=15)" |
[05:49:00] | Russ: | o |
[05:49:00] | j-rod: | okay, so the next question is whether the HDTV 5 Lite also causes my mbe to lock up... :\ |
[05:49:00] | dev-: | im sure you've restarted your backend after upgrading right |
[05:49:00] | briand: | yes |
[05:49:00] | briand: | and i've run mythtv-setup |
[05:50:00] | j-rod: | I'm pretty sure proto 15 is 0.18 |
[05:50:00] | briand: | and the frontend is showing GANT |
[05:50:00] | briand: | ...so i'm pretty sure that's the new frontend |
[05:50:00] | Agrajag-: | have you restarted your backend? |
[05:50:00] | briand: | but why is the backend still 0.18, but lying and saying it's 0.19 ? |
[05:50:00] | Agrajag-: | oh i didn't read that |
[05:50:00] | Agrajag-: | up |
[05:50:00] | j-rod: | you don't have two copies of mythbackend floating around, do you? |
[05:50:00] | dev-: | id be the other way around |
[05:51:00] | dev-: | it'd |
[05:51:00] | Agrajag-: | briand: haha.. it's not lying. the backend that's running is 0.18 |
[05:51:00] | briand: | it says (frontend=26,backend=15) |
[05:51:00] | briand: | [root@mythtv ~]# mythbackend --version |
[05:51:00] | briand: | Library API version: 0.19.20060121–2 |
[05:51:00] | briand: | Source code version: Unknown |
[05:51:00] | briand: | Options compiled in: |
[05:51:00] | briand: | linux release using_v4l using_oss using_ivtv using_dbox2 using_lirc using_joystick_menu using_x11 using_xv using_xrandr using_frontend using_backend |
[05:51:00] | briand: | [root@mythtv ~]# |
[05:52:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah but that's obviously not the one that is running |
[05:52:00] | Agrajag-: | how are you starting mythbackend? |
[05:53:00] | briand: | starts automagically when I boot up |
[05:53:00] | briand: | ah.. |
[05:53:00] | Agrajag-: | well i think you'll find you have 2 on your system |
[05:53:00] | briand: | /etc/sysconfig/mythbackend == May 31 2005, vs /usr/local/bin/mythbackend = today |
[05:54:00] | briand: | tsk tsk |
[05:54:00] | dev-: | heh :) |
[05:55:00] | briand: | well, that's one mystery solved (hopefully)...rebooting now. |
[05:55:00] | briand: | i wish i could talk myself into figuring out what's wrong with lirc now, though |
[05:55:00] | dev-: | rebooting? |
[05:55:00] | briand: | yes. ...to make sure the correct mythbackend is running |
[05:55:00] | dev-: | cant restart it out of init? |
[05:55:00] | feld: | any answer here to why when I disable the station logos it still try to display them in the guide and makes it super slow? |
[05:56:00] | feld: | *tries |
[05:56:00] | dev-: | no idea |
[05:57:00] | briand: | dev-: actually, i can't really 'reboot' it — the machine 'hangs' after everything unloads... i have to `shutdown -h now`, then walk into the living room and power it on. |
[05:57:00] | feld: | i just cleaned them out of the database (i used to have some logos). I dont know if it worked because my gf is watching TV now. |
[05:57:00] | Agrajag-: | briand: there is no reason to do all that |
[05:58:00] | briand: | done now. |
[05:58:00] | briand: | so, should i run mythtv-setup again? |
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[06:00:00] | briand: | well, moot point |
[06:00:00] | briand: | in hitting 'esc' to get out of mythfrontend (again) to run mythtv-setup (again) i get a dialog (again) complaining about protocol 26 vs. 15 |
[06:01:00] | j-rod: | briand, did you originally install from rpms, then install from source? |
[06:01:00] | dev-: | probably because /etc/sysconfig/mythbackend is a config file, not a binary |
[06:01:00] | j-rod: | (rpms or debs or some other pkg format) |
[06:02:00] | j-rod: | you probably have a /usr/bin/mythbackend still |
[06:02:00] | briand: | dev-: well {sigh} not any more. :/ |
[06:02:00] | briand: | j-rod: it's a log story, but yes. |
[06:02:00] | dev-: | heh |
[06:02:00] | j-rod: | look at /etc/init.d/mythbackend, it probably fires up /usr/bin/mythbackend |
[06:03:00] | j-rod: | rule of thumb: don't leave both package and source installs on the machine at the same time |
[06:03:00] | dev-: | second rule of thumb, though alot of people say its the first: dont mix package and source |
[06:03:00] | dev-: | if you're going to use packages, use packages |
[06:03:00] | dev-: | if you're going to use source, use source |
[06:03:00] | dev-: | dont mix and match. leads to trouble |
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[06:05:00] | Agrajag-: | dev-: "a lot" |
[06:05:00] | briand: | so.. what was in /etc/sysconfig/mythbackend ? |
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[06:22:00] | azap: | anyone know if i should have a mythgame directory in /usr/share/mythtv ? |
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[06:36:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/1001 |
[06:36:00] | Chutt: | yes? |
[06:36:00] | Chutt: | it's on the todo list |
[06:37:00] | Cardoe: | I thought it went in for 0.19 |
[06:37:00] | Chutt: | besides, i think multi-arch is broken, so, it's low on the todo list =) |
[06:37:00] | Chutt: | naw |
[06:37:00] | Cardoe: | Yeah. I should throw an autotools patch at you |
[06:37:00] | Cardoe: | just for not fixing that stuff |
[06:37:00] | Cardoe: | ;) |
[06:38:00] | Chutt: | works on ubuntu without it =) |
[06:38:00] | Cardoe: | aww Ubuntu... Ubuntu... |
[06:38:00] | Cardoe: | What about Fedora!? |
[06:38:00] | Cardoe: | ;) |
[06:38:00] | Chutt: | any system that puts the _natively running libraries_ in something other than lib is busted |
[06:39:00] | Chutt: | and i don't care that the 32-bit stuff _can_ run |
[06:39:00] | Chutt: | stick that in lib32 |
[06:39:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: well... try to convince every other project out there to switch |
[06:40:00] | Chutt: | i don't have to =) |
[06:40:00] | Chutt: | putting the 64-bit stuff in lib64 just so you can reuse your existing 32-bit rpms is lame |
[06:40:00] | Chutt: | if 32-bit stuff is needed, a chroot takes very little extra space, is easy to setup/use, etc |
[06:42:00] | Chutt: | anyway |
[06:42:00] | Chutt: | there's more important stuff to apply still =) |
[06:42:00] | Cardoe: | I'm going back to playing with Xgl |
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[06:51:00] | ofer: | i'm sure this is common, but i've installed mythweb 0.19 along with the rest of mythtv but mythweb has a database setup error |
[06:51:00] | ofer: | even though the .htaccess file appears to be configured correctly |
[06:51:00] | ofer: | and allow override is set up |
[06:51:00] | ofer: | any suggestions? |
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[06:53:00] | marccd: | how can I make myth delete the data that is recorded during a live tv show? |
[06:53:00] | marccd: | or where is it stored? |
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[06:55:00] | ofer: | i figured it out, there was anothe rplace to set allow override to all |
[06:55:00] | ofer: | marccd, at least in 0.18 it was stored in a ring buffer wherever all the saved shows were stored |
[06:56:00] | marccd: | ring buffer? |
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[06:56:00] | ofer: | ring buffer = fixed size file |
[06:57:00] | marccd: | I recored shows, they are in /var/lib/mythtv/*nuv but in live tv, for myth to be able to rewind, pause, etc, it must cache or save what you are viewing somewhere with a rewind threshold |
[06:57:00] | ofer: | exactly |
[06:57:00] | ofer: | it fills a file to a certain point |
[06:57:00] | ofer: | then it starts at the beginning of the file and overwrites itself |
[06:57:00] | marccd: | where is that file? myth fails to clean up a stale, when the disk becomes full |
[06:57:00] | ofer: | on mine its in the same place as the nuv files |
[06:58:00] | marccd: | better check my settings then |
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[06:58:00] | ofer: | i dont watch live tv much though |
[06:58:00] | ofer: | also, it may be different in 0.19 |
[06:58:00] | marccd: | im in .18, debian packages |
[06:59:00] | ** marccd still has to learn still how editing works ** | |
[07:00:00] | ofer: | crap, i think 0.19 isnt recording |
[07:00:00] | ofer: | well, good luck |
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[07:07:00] | xris: | marccd: press E while watching |
[07:07:00] | xris: | press Z to import the commercial flag list as a cutlist, use up/down/left/right/pageup/pagedown to navigate |
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[07:07:00] | xris: | press E when you're done editing |
[07:08:00] | marccd: | I am learning |
[07:08:00] | marccd: | the commercial flag list is all done automatically? |
[07:08:00] | marccd: | of course my original file wont be changed, deleted until I transcode |
[07:08:00] | marccd: | tehre is a setting for moving into .old, but thats another issue |
[07:08:00] | marccd: | there is also a setting for automatically flag commercials while watching |
[07:08:00] | marccd: | I had it off when I recorded |
[07:09:00] | xris: | marccd: if you tell it to |
[07:09:00] | xris: | cutlist won't change the recording.. just playback |
[07:09:00] | marccd: | trying to edit manually can be a little bit tricky since I would expect selecting the 2 cutpoint as in (show | commercial | show) | being the cut point, and telling the second cut point to "cut before" does cut the things after it |
[07:10:00] | xris: | sounds like it's not working properly. |
[07:13:00] | marccd: | how can I undo changes? |
[07:14:00] | xris: | can't |
[07:14:00] | xris: | just remove the cutpoints and start over again |
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[07:16:00] | marccd: | xris: how do I remove cutpoints? |
[07:17:00] | xris: | marccd: move to them, hit space bar.. j ust like you would to create one |
[07:17:00] | marccd: | will do |
[07:18:00] | marccd: | it is kind of hard trying to hit it right in the spot |
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[07:18:00] | cyeoh: | I've just compiled mythtv with --enable-xvmc-pro, but I don't see an option in the hardware decode settings page for enabling it. Any ideas on how I can work out what I did wrong? |
[07:19:00] | cyeoh: | (I have an VIA SP8000E board and have installed the via driver which should support xvmc) |
[07:21:00] | marccd: | what is xvmc? |
[07:22:00] | marccd: | X11 video media controller? |
[07:22:00] | xris: | hardware acceleration |
[07:23:00] | cyeoh: | yea, in this case allows for mpeg2 decoding in hardware |
[07:23:00] | cyeoh: | it all seemed to compile ok, but I'm pretty sure its not enabled – playback is using about 80% of the CPU |
[07:25:00] | cyeoh: | oh, maybe I needed to compile with --enable-xvmc as well |
[07:25:00] | Chutt: | xris, why won't trac break when i'm watching it? |
[07:28:00] | tweak_st: | it would be cool if mythmusic can get cd covers similar to what mythvideo does for movies |
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[07:38:00] | marccd: | how much does mpeg4 save over mpeg2? |
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[07:41:00] | xris: | Chutt: some guy named murphey... |
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[07:58:00] | tweak_st: | hmm lcdd doesn't want to run on port 6545 and mythtv doesn't have an option to change the port.. |
[07:58:00] | mchou: | kristok: you ever fix that hard drive? |
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[08:00:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: so what do you think of that guy's DB helper stuff. |
[08:00:00] | Cardoe: | I'm gonna download his latest stuff and peek at it |
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[08:15:00] | Chutt: | Cardoe, oh, you hadn't heard the plan |
[08:15:00] | Chutt: | here's what i'm thinking, re the db |
[08:15:00] | Chutt: | write a little wrapper program around sqlite, add the autoconf stuff from mfd to it, boom, no more mysql |
[08:16:00] | mchou: | Chutt: how much work and changes would that involve? |
[08:16:00] | Chutt: | aside from making sure all the sql works, not terribly much |
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[08:16:00] | dasOp: | Qt is mostly all set when it comes to db abstraction |
[08:17:00] | Chutt: | i'd write a qt sql database plugin for the server, so it'd use the same abstraction layer in myth |
[08:17:00] | Chutt: | dasOp, except for the actual queries, yes |
[08:17:00] | dasOp: | yeah, not much to do there |
[08:17:00] | Chutt: | well, not really |
[08:17:00] | Chutt: | you should see the pgsql patch |
[08:17:00] | Chutt: | it's huge |
[08:17:00] | mchou: | pgsql? when was that added? |
[08:18:00] | Chutt: | there's a patch for it in trac |
[08:18:00] | Chutt: | it's not finished |
[08:18:00] | dasOp: | but from what I've seen so far, not much that myth uses that sqlite cant handle |
[08:18:00] | Chutt: | dasOp, that's what i was thinking |
[08:18:00] | dasOp: | if any at all |
[08:18:00] | dasOp: | sqlite is quite a capable lil db |
[08:18:00] | Chutt: | basically, it gets rid of setting up mysql, which everyone has a problem with |
[08:18:00] | mchou: | bah... |
[08:18:00] | dasOp: | only downside is the 70 or so db files sqlite would create :P |
[08:18:00] | Chutt: | it allows embedded crap (think that hauppauge mvpmc stuff) |
[08:18:00] | mchou: | Chutt: everyone? :) |
[08:18:00] | dasOp: | mysql was the least of my problems :P |
[08:19:00] | Chutt: | since they really don't want to use libmysqlclient |
[08:19:00] | Gumby`: | I'm looking into changing my fonts for the OSD but no matter how I edit the osd.xml file in my current theme the font doesnt seem to change. Am I editing the wrong thing/place? |
[08:19:00] | Chutt: | server setup is easier (automatic) |
[08:19:00] | dasOp: | it'd require the server to serialize the sql requests though |
[08:19:00] | mchou: | well, I do have to say mysql version migration seems to be a PITA |
[08:19:00] | Chutt: | that's what the server's for |
[08:20:00] | dasOp: | or remote frontends goes buh bye |
[08:20:00] | Chutt: | the 'little wrapper program' |
[08:20:00] | dasOp: | oh |
[08:20:00] | Chutt: | ie, mythdbserver or whatnot |
[08:20:00] | Chutt: | basically just a network layer |
[08:20:00] | dasOp: | is it worth it though? :) |
[08:20:00] | Chutt: | i dunno |
[08:21:00] | Chutt: | there are lots of random issues with mysql |
[08:21:00] | Chutt: | just something i've been considering |
[08:21:00] | mchou: | dasOp: 70 files for sqlite? what, is it some sort of isam or ? |
[08:21:00] | dasOp: | lets just make it work with odbc! |
[08:21:00] | ** dasOp ducks ** | |
[08:21:00] | mchou: | lol |
[08:21:00] | dasOp: | sqlite uses a file for each table |
[08:22:00] | dasOp: | or was it 2? dont remember |
[08:22:00] | Chutt: | well, mysql uses 3, so.. |
[08:22:00] | mchou: | hehe, guess that's a 'win' |
[08:22:00] | Chutt: | it's certainly not set in stone |
[08:23:00] | Chutt: | but i am seriously considering doing that |
[08:23:00] | Cardoe: | how quick is sqlite for a DB of Myth's size? |
[08:23:00] | Cardoe: | that's the only question I got |
[08:23:00] | Chutt: | yeah |
[08:23:00] | Chutt: | same |
[08:24:00] | dasOp: | well, considering a db of myths size isnt that large at all, I dont think it'll be an issue |
[08:24:00] | Chutt: | i figured i'd load it up with the program data and run some scheduler queries on it |
[08:24:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: yeah |
[08:24:00] | Cardoe: | good idea |
[08:24:00] | Chutt: | i don't imagine it'd be an issue |
[08:24:00] | Cardoe: | if you need help with any of that coding. |
[08:24:00] | dasOp: | I've done massive logging using sqlite |
[08:24:00] | Cardoe: | lemme know |
[08:24:00] | dasOp: | and log parsing |
[08:24:00] | xris: | in my experience, it's pretty fast |
[08:24:00] | mchou: | hehe, maybe sqlite is a iin memory db :) |
[08:24:00] | Chutt: | i need to discuss things with the other developers |
[08:24:00] | mchou: | in* |
[08:24:00] | xris: | but I haven't benchmarked them side by side |
[08:24:00] | dasOp: | there are in memory tables |
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[08:24:00] | dasOp: | but they wouldnt be much use here |
[08:25:00] | Chutt: | i think the benefits outweigh the relatively small dev time it'd take |
[08:25:00] | Chutt: | ie, this is much less complicated than the livetv stuff |
[08:25:00] | dasOp: | I've had multigb tables and queries are snappy |
[08:25:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: I'm all about it |
[08:25:00] | Cardoe: | makes life easier |
[08:25:00] | mchou: | dasOp: on sqlite, you mean |
[08:25:00] | xris: | Chutt: I'm all for it as long as there's still a way for off-machine mythweb setups to query the db |
[08:25:00] | dasOp: | I've never ever considered writing a server for it though :P |
[08:25:00] | dasOp: | mchou: yup |
[08:25:00] | xris: | but you already said there would be |
[08:26:00] | Chutt: | xris, i am concerned about mythweb a bit |
[08:26:00] | Chutt: | since, right now you use a php db library, right? |
[08:26:00] | xris: | Chutt: yeah. written by me |
[08:26:00] | Chutt: | ah |
[08:26:00] | xris: | totally pluggable |
[08:26:00] | Chutt: | well, basically everything would be similar to the existing protocol |
[08:26:00] | Cardoe: | how would remote frontends and backends connect to the SQL server though |
[08:26:00] | dasOp: | doesnt mean I dislike mysql. but then I try to avoid the golden hammer rule |
[08:26:00] | Chutt: | mythdbserver |
[08:27:00] | dasOp: | it also helps to know mysql I guess |
[08:27:00] | Chutt: | auto-discovered with zeroconf/whatever |
[08:27:00] | Cardoe: | avahi |
[08:27:00] | Chutt: | same protocol as the existing frontends |
[08:27:00] | dasOp: | which wasnt that easy initially for me either |
[08:27:00] | Chutt: | Cardoe, i don't want to depend on their server |
[08:27:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: on avahi's server? |
[08:27:00] | Chutt: | yeah |
[08:27:00] | xris: | Chutt: I can work with pretty much whatever you throw at me... except maybe the zeroconf stuff... but could hard-code that for mythweb |
[08:27:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: so who's do you wanna use? |
[08:28:00] | Chutt: | Cardoe, well, there's an embedded avahi library |
[08:28:00] | Cardoe: | none of the others are "truely" open source |
[08:28:00] | Chutt: | and there's an older version of what became avahi in mfd |
[08:28:00] | Chutt: | i need to figure out how bad it is to have multiple responders on one machine =) |
[08:28:00] | Chutt: | xris, so, that wouldn't be much different than what it is now |
[08:29:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: sep backend and frontend stuff. |
[08:29:00] | Cardoe: | diff package |
[08:29:00] | xris: | Chutt: yup. |
[08:29:00] | Cardoe: | ;) |
[08:29:00] | xris: | ok, 'night, all.. I need to sleep. |
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[08:31:00] | dasOp: | Chutt: one issue is that you really dont want more than one client doing stuff on sqlite tables at the same time. which means your mythdbserver/client would need to be quite generic and have a good interface or you'd lock out lotsa neat stuff users are currently doing |
[08:32:00] | Chutt: | the only client would be the mythdbserver |
[08:32:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: and for god sakes... abstract the SQL code |
[08:32:00] | Cardoe: | don't spread it through all the code. |
[08:32:00] | Chutt: | everything else would have to go through that |
[08:32:00] | Chutt: | Cardoe, bah |
[08:32:00] | dasOp: | yeah that's good |
[08:32:00] | Chutt: | i don't see what's wrong with sticking a select in the code :p |
[08:32:00] | dasOp: | then again writing a very generic sql client for sqlite is around 20 lines of C code :P |
[08:32:00] | Chutt: | i don't want to rewrite everything |
[08:32:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: I swear you're like the flower girl with SQL code everywhere. |
[08:32:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: start small |
[08:32:00] | Chutt: | i don't have time |
[08:32:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: Or gimme commit.. I'll slowly do it. |
[08:32:00] | Chutt: | there's no 'starting' :p |
[08:32:00] | Cardoe: | without breaking stuff. |
[08:33:00] | Chutt: | lemme see some patches, first |
[08:33:00] | dasOp: | use teh trac, luke :P |
[08:33:00] | Cardoe: | Yeah any idea I've got you won't commit |
[08:33:00] | Cardoe: | ;) |
[08:33:00] | Chutt: | heh |
[08:35:00] | Cardoe: | damnit I think my mouse just blew out |
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[08:35:00] | Chutt: | Cardoe, i'm probably going to apply #1198 instead of #1001 |
[08:35:00] | Cardoe: | the red led keeps flicking on and off |
[08:36:00] | Chutt: | it deals with finding libraries as well |
[08:36:00] | Chutt: | or maybe just merge the two, since 1001 is cleaner |
[08:37:00] | Chutt: | i dunno, it's 3:30 am |
[08:37:00] | Cardoe: | heh |
[08:38:00] | haffe: | Hello. I wonderd, are there any DVBcards out there that has dual inputs? So that I can watch one source and record another one. |
[08:38:00] | Chutt: | hrm |
[08:39:00] | Chutt: | need to reboot into a new kernel |
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[08:39:00] | feld: | argh can anyone tell me why my Program guide is slow as hell and prints these messages: |
[08:39:00] | scott: | ...and that's the last anyone ever saw of Chutt... rebooting into a new kernel |
[08:39:00] | feld: | UIImageType::LoadImage() – Cannot find image: /root/.mythtv/channels/fox_30.jpg |
[08:40:00] | feld: | according to google those channel pix were removed from CVS in september, but I get that crap in 0.19 |
[08:40:00] | scott: | hmm feld |
[08:40:00] | dasOp: | no cvs in quite a while methinks |
[08:40:00] | feld: | http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-commits/20 . . . /002254.html |
[08:40:00] | feld: | holy crap september 2003 |
[08:40:00] | scott: | lol |
[08:41:00] | feld: | why is that being requested in 0.19 then?! |
[08:41:00] | feld: | if I go back to 0.18 its fine |
[08:41:00] | scott: | yeah that was before they even used xmltv |
[08:41:00] | feld: | how did that code get into 0.19 |
[08:41:00] | feld: | :( |
[08:41:00] | feld: | I'm very confused |
[08:42:00] | feld: | the tv guide is so slow now because its looking for those files.... so slow its not even funny |
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[08:42:00] | stoffel: | feld: wild guess: it's looking for the fox channel icon that you told mythtv to use? |
[08:42:00] | feld: | stoffel: i never ever told mythtv to use any icons |
[08:42:00] | feld: | look at the link stoffel |
[08:42:00] | feld: | in 2003 they removed that from mythtv supposedly |
[08:43:00] | feld: | exact same filenames that X's logs are barking out |
[08:43:00] | feld: | if i go into mythtv's settings and disable channel logos all together it still does it |
[08:44:00] | feld: | UIImageType::LoadImage() – Cannot find image: /root/.mythtv/channels/homeshoppingnetwork_30.jpg |
[08:44:00] | feld: | argh! they're all in that link |
[08:44:00] | feld: | how the hell did this get back into mythtv... running 0.19 on Gentoo |
[08:45:00] | stoffel: | it didn't get back into my mythtv |
[08:46:00] | feld: | then how could it be on my box |
[08:46:00] | feld: | i've never run anything lower than 0.18 |
[08:46:00] | feld: | therefore I would have never run that CVS version that had that commit |
[08:50:00] | Juski: | morning |
[08:51:00] | Juski: | feld: you can stop mythtv using icons by editing the DB using a) the channel editor or b) your fave mysql mangler |
[08:51:00] | Juski: | then you'd have to stop mythfilldatabase inserting channel icons |
[08:51:00] | feld: | I never saw that setting in the channel editor before |
[08:52:00] | feld: | what is the setting called? |
[08:52:00] | Juski: | something which might speed it up a bit is reducing the size of the icons – but that obviously depends on them being rescaled a lot |
[08:52:00] | Juski: | feld: er.. icon |
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[08:52:00] | feld: | Juski: do you understand my situation? |
[08:52:00] | Juski: | feld: I think so |
[08:52:00] | feld: | I dont think you caught the whole gist |
[08:52:00] | dtm: | have there been any substantial bugfixes that have been applied to 0.19 since 0.19's official release, which were only found in widespread use? |
[08:52:00] | dtm: | or was 0.19 totally stable |
[08:53:00] | Juski: | your program guide takes a long time to load because there are a lot of icons.. and some of the icons are missing? |
[08:53:00] | feld: | Juski: Mythtv's guide is going super slow. It is asking for TV icons that haven't been mentioned since a September 2003 CVS commit where they were REMOVED from mythtv |
[08:53:00] | Juski: | bloody hell |
[08:53:00] | feld: | check the link above |
[08:54:00] | feld: | I have NO idea how they got onto my box, into my database, whatever |
[08:54:00] | feld: | It is a fairly recent install with me using only 0.18 previously |
[08:54:00] | Juski: | maybe your EPG grabber is old |
[08:54:00] | feld: | EPG grabber? |
[08:54:00] | feld: | electronic.. program.. guide grabber? |
[08:55:00] | Juski: | yup |
[08:55:00] | feld: | what is that? |
[08:55:00] | feld: | never heard of it? just guessed |
[08:55:00] | Juski: | never heard of it? |
[08:55:00] | Juski: | the video source |
[08:55:00] | Juski: | zap2it or whatever |
[08:55:00] | feld: | what do you mean "its old" |
[08:56:00] | Juski: | well, some grabbers have the capability to put icons into the database |
[08:56:00] | feld: | zap2it has never had that ability to my knowledge |
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[08:57:00] | Juski: | hmmm. |
[08:57:00] | Juski: | I have over 150 channels with icons & the programme guide doesn't take long to load |
[08:58:00] | Juski: | though I'm not using 0.19 yet |
[08:58:00] | feld: | It isnt loading any icons though |
[08:58:00] | Juski: | right, but it's looking for them |
[08:58:00] | feld: | X's log is spitting out that it is asking for these exact icon names that haven't been used in almost 3 years lol |
[08:58:00] | feld: | and its asking for them in /root/ (only god knows why..) |
[08:59:00] | Juski: | mythtv-setup was run as root? |
[08:59:00] | feld: | never |
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[08:59:00] | Juski: | anything on the users list about this recently? |
[08:59:00] | feld: | i'm not on that list |
[08:59:00] | feld: | so i stopped here first |
[09:00:00] | Juski: | you don't have to be on the list to search it |
[09:00:00] | jvs|zZzz: | hmm, since ivtv 0.4.2 lirc is "reacting" slow |
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[09:01:00] | feld: | is there anything in the database that I can safely delete to remove this crap/ |
[09:01:00] | feld: | or any tables or something? |
[09:01:00] | Juski: | in the channel table there's a column called 'icon' |
[09:02:00] | feld: | I dont use mysql for anything... ever... so how do I edit the database properly? any recommended tools, or what commands? |
[09:02:00] | Arkkis: | phpmyadmin is a nice tool |
[09:02:00] | stoffel: | mythtv's channel editor or via mythweb |
[09:02:00] | dasOp: | mysqlcc etc |
[09:03:00] | Juski: | I think mythweb's channel editor shows the icon field now – give that a go |
[09:03:00] | feld: | k i'll see what i can do heh |
[09:07:00] | feld: | no :( |
[09:07:00] | feld: | it's not available |
[09:07:00] | feld: | if I were to delete all channels and get them again would that solve it? |
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[09:08:00] | Juski: | you can always use the channel editor in mythtv-setup |
[09:08:00] | Juski: | shut down mythbackend first though |
[09:08:00] | feld: | Juski: that's where I'm at |
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[09:08:00] | Juski: | select a channel & look at all the fields on the first page |
[09:09:00] | Juski: | one of them about 2/3 down the screen is the icon path |
[09:09:00] | feld: | I just deleted all my channels lol |
[09:09:00] | feld: | I hope this will fix it... it's grabbing them all over again |
[09:09:00] | feld: | I would assume it would remove everything related to them |
[09:10:00] | bazil: | puh .. u here ? |
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[09:10:00] | bazil: | anyone here tryed mythstreamtv ? |
[09:12:00] | Puh: | ? |
[09:12:00] | Puh: | no i've never tried it |
[09:12:00] | feld: | omg YAY! |
[09:12:00] | feld: | I think I fixed it |
[09:12:00] | feld: | I deleted the channels and let it grab them all over again |
[09:12:00] | feld: | apparently 0.19 + zap2it grabs channel logos now |
[09:13:00] | feld: | (It just better not look in /root/ anymore... ) |
[09:13:00] | Arkkis: | anyone with finnish channel logos here? |
[09:13:00] | Juski: | there's a mythfilldatabase option to _not_ grab icons I think |
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[09:14:00] | feld: | Juski: NICE! A grep of the mysql database shows its putting the channel logos where they belong |
[09:14:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hi feld |
[09:14:00] | feld: | I think I solved my problem :) |
[09:14:00] | feld: | SlicerDicer-: I dont know you |
[09:14:00] | ** feld backs out of channel ** | |
[09:14:00] | feld: | sup? |
[09:14:00] | ** SlicerDicer- stabs feld ** | |
[09:14:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Imposter! |
[09:14:00] | feld: | argh! |
[09:15:00] | ** feld falls over and dies ** | |
[09:15:00] | SlicerDicer-: | haha |
[09:15:00] | SlicerDicer-: | how goes the conversion to .19? |
[09:15:00] | feld: | very well now |
[09:15:00] | SlicerDicer-: | cool |
[09:15:00] | feld: | 100% working after I get done with a fresh channel / guide grab |
[09:15:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am still questioning if I want to do it cause I run on AMD64 with my backend/frontend combo |
[09:15:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kinda afraid to break it hehe |
[09:16:00] | feld: | apparently 0.19 + zap2it now grabs channel logos |
[09:16:00] | SlicerDicer-: | that rocks man |
[09:16:00] | feld: | it was looking for them, but they werent there |
[09:16:00] | feld: | so X was spitting out crazy msgs at me about logos not being found and the guide wasn't usable it was so slow |
[09:16:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe |
[09:16:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well thats good to know |
[09:16:00] | feld: | but after deleting all my chans and regrabbing them I see its putting them where they belong |
[09:16:00] | feld: | so I should be good to go |
[09:17:00] | Juski: | Arkkis: there's a very good site with TV channel icons here: www.lyngsat-logo.com |
[09:17:00] | bazil: | puh . we talked yesterday and u said u might consider helping me stream .nuvfiles |
[09:17:00] | Arkkis: | thanks Juski, I'll check it out |
[09:18:00] | Juski: | Arkkis: there was a script submitted to the users list a while ago for grabbing the icons & putting them into the DB automagically |
[09:18:00] | bazil: | ive tryed with mythstreamtv .but for some odd reason i cant get it to actually start the stream .. or .. maby it starts teh stream i just cant see it |
[09:18:00] | Puh: | bazil, do you have dvb cards or some other capture cards? |
[09:19:00] | bazil: | pvr 350 |
[09:20:00] | feld: | Juski: YAY it works! |
[09:20:00] | Juski: | Arkkis: see this thread: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/engine? . . . reply;so=ASC |
[09:20:00] | bazil: | hauppage ofcourse .. |
[09:20:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yay feld :) |
[09:20:00] | Puh: | bazil, so have far did you get with the streaming? |
[09:20:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ohh hey feld http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzlkx7cCkHQ give that a look haha |
[09:20:00] | Puh: | bazil, can you view you recordings in any way? is the capture card working? |
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[09:21:00] | bazil: | yea ofcourse .. on localmachine it works great |
[09:21:00] | Puh: | ok |
[09:21:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hmm mythstreamtv is new feature I assume /me goes and looks |
[09:21:00] | bazil: | ive installed mythstreamtv .. witch only is a script for using vlc .. |
[09:21:00] | feld: | SlicerDicer-: omg you rule |
[09:21:00] | Puh: | did you get correct ip address to mythweb instead of localhost? |
[09:21:00] | feld: | I can do a *SO* kickass pirate voice |
[09:21:00] | bazil: | yep .. |
[09:21:00] | feld: | now I have more material |
[09:21:00] | SlicerDicer-: | haha feld |
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[09:21:00] | SlicerDicer-: | rock on buddy |
[09:22:00] | Puh: | ok |
[09:22:00] | Puh: | bazil, and you want to view those recordings over lan? |
[09:22:00] | Juski: | over WAN more like I bet |
[09:23:00] | feld: | That would be a nice feature |
[09:23:00] | feld: | I could watch TV @ school lol |
[09:23:00] | bazil: | puh .. over wan .. |
[09:23:00] | Juski: | oh dear oh dear oh _dear_ |
[09:23:00] | bazil: | i would prefer to watch the live stream . but i hear thats not possible with mpeg2 capture cards |
[09:23:00] | Puh: | bazil, ok, can you access your mythweb over the wan? does the web server respond? |
[09:23:00] | bazil: | puh .. privmsg |
[09:23:00] | Juski: | I hope you have a fat upload pipe at home |
[09:23:00] | Arkkis: | Juski, I think I can handle them manually, got like 7 channels or so here =) |
[09:24:00] | feld: | bazil: couldn't you stream the file that is recording live TV? |
[09:24:00] | Juski: | Arkiss: awww :-) |
[09:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | feld: what kinda hardware do you use? |
[09:24:00] | Arkkis: | Juski, but thanks anyhow =) |
[09:24:00] | feld: | it would be a couple seconds behind |
[09:24:00] | Juski: | np |
[09:24:00] | bazil: | i cant stream anything feld |
[09:24:00] | feld: | SlicerDicer-: xp 3000+ PVR250 512mb pc2700 |
[09:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | very nice |
[09:24:00] | bazil: | yea .. that i could do if i get it to run ofcourse |
[09:25:00] | bazil: | juski .. how much bandwith does it take ? |
[09:25:00] | bazil: | maby no use |
[09:25:00] | bazil: | trying to fix it |
[09:25:00] | Puh: | do i have to register somehow to get the privmsgs working on this server? |
[09:25:00] | Juski: | bazil: how much pipe do you got? |
[09:25:00] | feld: | SlicerDicer-: its an NFS server, Samba, CUPS, irc proxy, Mythtv backend and frontend, DNS server... umm.... |
[09:25:00] | bazil: | 24/1 |
[09:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | feld: I am consdering doing samba :) |
[09:25:00] | Juski: | 24/1 ? wth does that mean? 1mb upstream? |
[09:25:00] | bazil: | ya |
[09:26:00] | Puh: | not quite enough im afraid |
[09:26:00] | bazil: | k |
[09:26:00] | bazil: | whats needed |
[09:26:00] | feld: | SlicerDicer-: don't do it unless you have to. I can pull/push 9mb/s with NFS and only 5 with Samba |
[09:26:00] | Puh: | needs heavy resizing and compression |
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[09:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | feld: mine is MythBackend/Frontend/NFS currently it also has a 4800SE in it I will more than likely end up putting my 6600GT in it so I can game on my TV when I get my HDTV heh |
[09:26:00] | Juski: | compressing mpeg1 realtime to fit on that will be hard to watch |
[09:26:00] | Puh: | yep |
[09:26:00] | feld: | LOL SlicerDicer- |
[09:26:00] | bazil: | oh |
[09:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | feld: what? |
[09:26:00] | feld: | Game on your HDTV |
[09:27:00] | feld: | you nerd |
[09:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | haha |
[09:27:00] | bazil: | never mind then .. shit .. |
[09:27:00] | bazil: | still .. would like to be able to run it on my lan |
[09:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | feld: well with myth having mythgame reworked to be easy why not? |
[09:27:00] | Juski: | use mythfrontend then ;) |
[09:27:00] | feld: | SlicerDicer-: very true |
[09:27:00] | bazil: | on my windows machines |
[09:27:00] | feld: | I wouldnt mind playing AA on my TV sometimes |
[09:27:00] | bazil: | winmyth sux |
[09:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | just unplug my USB dongle for my dinovo walk over and rock on! hehe |
[09:27:00] | bazil: | only windowsverison ive seen |
[09:27:00] | Juski: | winmyth != working |
[09:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | feld: yeah I think it will be nice to not be stuck at my computer :) |
[09:28:00] | bazil: | hmm .. well . i have a working database connection ... still no go |
[09:28:00] | Juski: | I might write a winmyth in python for laughs |
[09:28:00] | feld: | SlicerDicer-: go kick icculus in the ass and tell him to hurry up. as usual I'm one of the many impatient ungrateful assholes who just wants to play :P |
[09:28:00] | bazil: | id marry u if u do that ;) |
[09:28:00] | Puh: | maybe mplayer or vlc has windows version that could be used? |
[09:28:00] | feld: | Puh: both have win32 port I believe |
[09:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | feld: I dont bother icculus ;-) I dont want kittens to die |
[09:28:00] | feld: | I know windows does, i've used it |
[09:28:00] | Juski: | all the program needs to do is speak mysql & myth protocol |
[09:29:00] | feld: | SlicerDicer-: omg he kills kittens now?! :( |
[09:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | feld: its just rumor but apparently that new iMac Intel chews up cats when a hurry request is spoken |
[09:29:00] | bazil: | the winmyth ive installed doesnt even start up .. complainds about some protocols not beeing there |
[09:29:00] | Juski: | only problem I've ever had with the windows VLC is that it locks up my desktop machine at work :-/ |
[09:30:00] | feld: | SlicerDicer-: lol |
[09:30:00] | Juski: | every other machine I've tried it on has been fine though |
[09:30:00] | feld: | Juski: what doesn't lock up a Windows machine? |
[09:30:00] | Juski: | speaking of work.... |
[09:30:00] | feld: | I had a fresh install BSOD me constantly the other day :( |
[09:30:00] | Juski: | feld: lol |
[09:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ohh thank goodness feld |
[09:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I thought I was alone |
[09:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | people think I am insane when I say that happens |
[09:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
[09:30:00] | Juski: | if I didn't need windows for my video editing hobby (and photoshop) I'd have linux on every machine at home |
[09:31:00] | Juski: | instead, only 3 out of 5 machines have linux on em |
[09:31:00] | Juski: | anyway.. time to go to work |
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[09:32:00] | bazil: | juski ... were u kidding or is it possible to get winmyth to run ? or another version for lanstream ? |
[09:32:00] | Arkkis: | he left already.. |
[09:32:00] | bazil: | ah .. my bad |
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[09:33:00] | Arkkis: | bazil, have you considered running vmware or vnc? I have no experience on either, but the idea sounds appealing |
[09:34:00] | Arkkis: | I mean, to get myth on a windows |
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[09:34:00] | bazil: | hmm .. well a solution that sounds alittebit to messy .. but ofcourse if all else fails |
[09:35:00] | bazil: | vnc doesnt work ... no colors over vnc |
[09:35:00] | bazil: | not enough anyhow |
[09:35:00] | Arkkis: | hmm, okay, then the vmware solution, they just made the player and server software free, I've been looking towards testing with the server one |
[09:35:00] | jvs: | hmm |
[09:36:00] | jvs: | when my bttv and ittv modules are loaded, lirc is reacting really slow |
[09:36:00] | jvs: | anybody experienced this too? |
[09:36:00] | simcop2387: | i wish mythtv had better granularity on job control, e.g. can do commercial detection at all times as low cpu, but between 3:00am and 11am you can go all out, or only run userjob#1 from 4am to 5am |
[09:37:00] | simcop2387: | i might have to implement that for 0.20 with patches backwards to 0.19 |
[09:37:00] | bazil: | damn .. i have the mysql connection and still it complains about the dsmyth settings |
[09:38:00] | ivor: | anyone network booting their frontend? |
[09:38:00] | simcop2387: | ivor: no but i've though it to be an interesting prospect esp if you've got gigabit eth you could then have all storage on the backend but each frontend have multiple cards if you wanted too |
[09:39:00] | simcop2387: | ivor: there should be a number of tutorials on how to do that with linux (though i don't know how recent theya re) |
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[09:41:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | where can I find general info on DVB? |
[09:42:00] | ivor: | simcop2387: sure theory is one thing. :) I was curious if anyone here was actually doing it. |
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[09:42:00] | ivor: | JoeyJoeJo: linuxtv.org |
[09:42:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | thanks |
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[09:43:00] | simcop2387: | ivor: dunno about right now, but i recall at least one person doing it at some point, you'll need to learn lots about nfs and diskless booting |
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[09:46:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | is DVB not availible in the USA? |
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[09:46:00] | ivor: | its atsc there I believ |
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[09:55:00] | RancidLM: | if i have media on a samba server could i mount a dir to /myth/video or is there more to this because its currently not working |
[09:56:00] | buu: | YES. |
[09:56:00] | buu: | You can! |
[09:56:00] | buu: | But mythvideo sucks ass |
[09:56:00] | buu: | You don't actually need to mount it as /myth/video |
[09:56:00] | buu: | Just change the path in the configurator |
[09:56:00] | Mayol: | can i change the way myth names hte *.nuv files? |
[09:57:00] | buu: | Maybe@! |
[09:58:00] | buu: | And by maybe |
[09:58:00] | buu: | I mean "NOT IN YOUR LIFE TIME SUCKER" |
[09:58:00] | RancidLM: | buu: iv made a dir called network and changed the mythtv path to /myth/video/network and still i see do files or directory's |
[09:58:00] | buu: | RancidLM: You need to rerun mythsetup |
[09:58:00] | buu: | Er, mythvideo setup |
[09:58:00] | buu: | mythvideo manager |
[09:58:00] | buu: | Whatever it's called |
[09:59:00] | RancidLM: | hmm it doesn't browes it on the fly? |
[09:59:00] | buu: | No! |
[09:59:00] | RancidLM: | oh |
[09:59:00] | buu: | That would be logical and useful! |
[09:59:00] | RancidLM: | lol indeed |
[09:59:00] | RancidLM: | is there a better plugin.. or something useful to replace this? |
[10:00:00] | buu: | Dunno, if you find one, let me know |
[10:00:00] | buu: | I've been considering writing my own |
[10:00:00] | buu: | But then I realized I don't actually need mythtv! |
[10:00:00] | buu: | So I'll just write my own |
[10:01:00] | buu: | And it'll be happy |
[10:02:00] | RancidLM: | i don't find any logic to having to run a app make a media list |
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[10:02:00] | buu: | Neither do I! |
[10:03:00] | juski: | morning |
[10:03:00] | RancidLM: | gmorning |
[10:03:00] | buu: | I suppose technically the app could pull metadata and store it with your list |
[10:03:00] | buu: | But it doesn't seem to |
[10:08:00] | Merlin83b: | Morning. |
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[10:13:00] | Mayol: | hmm |
[10:13:00] | juski: | these ml postings about DVB issues in 0.19 are a little worrying |
[10:14:00] | RancidLM: | how would i make a qick externam menu link? to run a comman? and maybe give it a fancy icon ? |
[10:14:00] | RancidLM: | *external |
[10:15:00] | juski: | RancimLM: look in theme.xml in the directory of the theme you currently use |
[10:15:00] | juski: | *RancidLM, even |
[10:17:00] | juski: | as for fancy icons, you can give menu items any graphic you like |
[10:17:00] | juski: | (so long as you edit the theme xml file yourself) |
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[10:17:00] | buu: | Yay xml! |
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[10:19:00] | juski: | yay tend of hours editing text files to have hardly anyone appreciate your hard work! |
[10:19:00] | juski: | *sp/tend/tens |
[10:20:00] | juski: | incidentally – work is trickling along for ProjectGrayhem2-wide |
[10:21:00] | juski: | now that I know wide themes can be used on my system I'm not going to do any more 4:3 theme work |
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[10:26:00] | ** juski wonders why it's so hard to get MTBF data out of Hitachi ** | |
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[10:54:00] | RancidLM: | using mythweb (the backend http server) is there a way to change the current backend channel? |
[10:55:00] | RancidLM: | like act as a remote for the tv? |
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[11:10:00] | johnp_: | stuarta: morning |
[11:10:00] | stuarta: | morning |
[11:11:00] | johnp_: | stuarta: have you played with the detecting non running channels lately ? It seems to be bust. (again) |
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[11:12:00] | stuarta: | not lately. |
[11:12:00] | ** johnp_ sighs ** | |
[11:13:00] | stuarta: | was tracking down cpu loading issues with the previews. |
[11:14:00] | johnp_: | I've got frontend load issues with livetv, preview video issues, and now the channel tuning stuff :) |
[11:14:00] | stuarta: | oh joy.... |
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[11:16:00] | johnp_: | the frontend thing just affects my dev box so I can survive. The preview video is just an annoyance and I can live without the signal monitor stuff although I might try and work out where it broke. |
[11:17:00] | stuarta: | what's your issue with previews? |
[11:18:00] | johnp_: | Certain themes seem to screw up the colour info, so they play ok but look washed out with colour information scrolling across (hard to describe) |
[11:18:00] | stuarta: | I know kinda what you mean... |
[11:18:00] | stuarta: | different to my problem then... |
[11:25:00] | juski: | johnp: you might want to look at theme size of the video preview window in the theme you're using |
[11:25:00] | juski: | is your X DPI 100 ? |
[11:25:00] | Kelerion-flux: | morning all |
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[11:31:00] | juski: | morning Kelerion-flux |
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[11:31:00] | johnp_: | juski: Oh I'm sure it's solvable – just need to get my ass in gear. |
[11:33:00] | juski: | i've only ever seen issues with the video preview window when I was editing my themes & the aspect ratio of the preview was wrong |
[11:33:00] | Kelerion-flux: | juski.. am trying to get linux installed on my main machine again.. I go through this soul-destroying excersise every few weeks... lol |
[11:33:00] | Kelerion-flux: | exercise..even |
[11:33:00] | juski: | sometimes it'd just be garbage in place of the preview, other times it'd be the wrong aspect |
[11:34:00] | johnp_: | which file contains the preview window definition ? |
[11:34:00] | Kelerion-flux: | hey.. you told me themes didn't affect aspects in previews when I said my didn't look right with ProjectGraham! lol |
[11:34:00] | juski: | johnp: ui.xml |
[11:35:00] | johnp_: | ta, I'll have a look next time I'm home. |
[11:35:00] | juski: | Kelerion-flux: didn't look right & not work are different things ;-) |
[11:36:00] | juski: | Kelerion: and using a 4:3 theme on a 16:9 TV, even at 720x576 (which is a 4:3 res) can look weird |
[11:36:00] | Kelerion-flux: | mine runs at 848x480 with your -wide theme and records in 16:9 |
[11:37:00] | juski: | up til last week I was still using my 4:3 theme on my 16:9 TV at 720x576 – have since added the wide theme to my minimyth rootfs crammage & it looks fabbo |
[11:37:00] | juski: | 848x480? ugh |
[11:37:00] | Kelerion-flux: | I know.. it's a weird one.. lol |
[11:38:00] | juski: | good 16:9 native aspect though |
[11:38:00] | juski: | was going 'ugh' at the vertical rs |
[11:38:00] | Kelerion-flux: | there seems to be a lot of tv's coming out with that resolution lately |
[11:38:00] | ** juski wouldn't be seen dead with less than 700 vertical res... what's the point in spending all that more money if you don't get more screen rez? ** | |
[11:39:00] | dtm: | i'd think it'd be a lame challenge to adjust aspect cropping for all the different shows out there on the channels which broadcast widescreen content on 4/3 channels. |
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[11:44:00] | dtm: | ha. zap2it seems to be swapping Futurama and Family Guy on me. |
[11:44:00] | dtm: | on us analog cable |
[11:46:00] | Calroth: | does 720p have a frame rate of 50 or 60fps? |
[11:46:00] | Calroth: | or is that different depending on where you are in the world? |
[11:48:00] | Calroth: | probably depends on country |
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[11:55:00] | Kelerion-flux: | ok -time to try a new xorg.conf |
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[12:10:00] | Rroet: | hello |
[12:12:00] | Rroet: | I could find the following question on the mailing list yet or on the FAQ. so I hope somebody can help me with this. |
[12:13:00] | Rroet: | Now with 0.19 liveTV is automagically recording to HDD, but not cleaning itself up when I quit watching it. How can I either turn this off or get mythtv to clean itself up afterwards? It's eating my hdd space :( |
[12:14:00] | juski: | Rroet: that's a new section of the FM to read |
[12:14:00] | Rroet: | FM ? |
[12:14:00] | juski: | live tv recordings can be set to expire quicker |
[12:14:00] | juski: | FM.. as in RTFM |
[12:15:00] | Kelerion: | that has been discussed *over and over* in the mailing lists |
[12:15:00] | Rroet: | searched for livetv keyword in the FM, but it didn't show me that section. (manual in package) |
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[12:15:00] | juski: | if so many livetv users han't moaned about the buffer being discarded this would never have happenned l-) |
[12:16:00] | Rroet: | hehe. |
[12:16:00] | Rroet: | never had an issue with it. :0 |
[12:16:00] | Rroet: | Thanks for the info. |
[12:16:00] | Rroet: | Will try to find out where I can expire that stuff. |
[12:16:00] | Rroet: | never used expirations before. |
[12:16:00] | juski: | its not hard to find ;) |
[12:16:00] | Rroet: | :O |
[12:17:00] | Kelerion: | and you can also set it up to make sure XXMb is always free on your HD |
[12:17:00] | Rroet: | can it be set from mythweb? I'm currently offsite |
[12:17:00] | juski: | ugh! god how many Brit awards did James C*** win?! |
[12:17:00] | juski: | Rroet: can't be set from mythweb AFAIK |
[12:17:00] | Kelerion: | it's in the setup |
[12:17:00] | Rroet: | ok. |
[12:17:00] | Rroet: | ta |
[12:19:00] | ** juski won't be recording the awards show tonight ** | |
[12:21:00] | Rroet: | Kelerion: just ran mythtv-setup, but that one didn't cover the the issue. |
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[12:21:00] | Rroet: | mythfrontend settings? |
[12:21:00] | juski: | er.. yes |
[12:21:00] | Kelerion: | yes |
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[12:21:00] | juski: | this is funny: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/02/15/freeview_transmission/ |
[12:23:00] | Merlin83b: | Heh |
[12:23:00] | Rroet: | shoot me, I can't seem to find it. Must be blind. |
[12:25:00] | Rroet: | or shoot the dutch translator :) |
[12:27:00] | ivor: | juski: yeah that's awesome. |
[12:28:00] | ivor: | of course if they generated a signal that was locked on by passing fighter jets it might not be quite so awesome. :P |
[12:29:00] | juski: | lol |
[12:30:00] | Rroet: | juski: thanks for the help. I shot the dutch translator and found it :) |
[12:30:00] | juski: | thanks for forcing you to look harder.. hmmm ;-) |
[12:33:00] | ** juski wonders that when he has kids, will they hate him...? ** | |
[12:34:00] | ivor: | only when they're teenagers. |
[12:34:00] | Rroet: | ttfn |
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[12:35:00] | juski: | hehe.. I can wait |
[12:36:00] | ivor: | juski: ever tried network booting? |
[12:36:00] | juski: | got a question on the mythtvtalk forum – someone claims to have the composite & DVB inputs on his card working at the same time. AFAIK that shouldn't be possible with a single tuner card.. am I right? |
[12:36:00] | juski: | ivor: I netboot my frontend |
[12:36:00] | ivor: | yay! asked earlier but got silence. :) |
[12:37:00] | ivor: | what do you do about tmpfs / swapspace ? |
[12:37:00] | juski: | no swap |
[12:37:00] | juski: | 512MB ram, you don't need no swap for running mythtv |
[12:38:00] | juski: | ivor: I run minimyth now, but my first diskless frontend ran gentoo – and to install that I just followed a wiki |
[12:39:00] | juski: | you can use nfs for swap, but I heard it's a pain |
[12:39:00] | Merlin83b: | I guess composite doesn't need tuning, per se... |
[12:40:00] | ivor: | what sort of card is it? |
[12:40:00] | ivor: | perhaps it just looks like two separate tv cards to linux? |
[12:40:00] | juski: | ivor: it's a DVB-T tuner with compo/svid inputs |
[12:40:00] | ivor: | cute. |
[12:41:00] | juski: | he says he can use both at the same time without issues. I don't think it's _supposed_ to work |
[12:41:00] | juski: | course with a more recent kernel it spits out loads of errors now |
[12:41:00] | ivor: | lol. |
[12:42:00] | juski: | DNTV Live Pro – thats it |
[12:42:00] | ivor: | someone at work got one of those terratec 2400 dual dvb cards yesterday pretty cute. |
[12:42:00] | ivor: | couldn't find any linux info about it though. |
[12:44:00] | juski: | wtf kind of idiot wrote this? "Mythtv is the best and worst of opensource programming. It works, sort of, but you'll have to invest an awful lot of time setting it up and keeping it going." |
[12:44:00] | Merlin83b: | And idiot from a long time ago? |
[12:44:00] | juski: | invest an aawful lot of time keeping it going? LOL |
[12:44:00] | Merlin83b: | Oh, keeping it going? Idiot. |
[12:45:00] | Merlin83b: | Since installation, I could have left it alone. As it is I've tracked SVN but that takes a few seconds of effort whenever I want to update. |
[12:45:00] | juski: | "oh linux, don't you need to be constantly typing commands into it, like a mouse powering a lightbulb with it's wheel?" |
[12:45:00] | Merlin83b: | Heh. |
[12:45:00] | ivor: | oh dear. what are you reading? |
[12:45:00] | ivor: | sounds like /. quality |
[12:45:00] | juski: | http://www.fudgemond.org/dvb/ |
[12:46:00] | jvs: | anybody knows this bug, that when editing a recording and setting a cutpoint always two points are set |
[12:46:00] | jvs: | what leeds to, that if you want to delete stuff before the point, it will delete everything after |
[12:47:00] | juski: | read a post on thegreenbutton MCE forum about mythtv once – these guys tried mythtv for like 10 minutes & gave up |
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[12:48:00] | juski: | jvs: not tried editing shows much |
[12:48:00] | Hoxzer: | I'm trying to retieve my myth settings but when I try to do it as the documentation says it says the database alreayd exists |
[12:49:00] | jvs: | juski, it only occurs on my backend/frontend living room machine |
[12:49:00] | Hoxzer: | will there be problems if I delete it and then recreate it? |
[12:49:00] | juski: | Hoxzer: you didn't drop the DB before starting again then? |
[12:53:00] | Hoxzer: | nvw |
[12:53:00] | Hoxzer: | nvm |
[12:54:00] | Hoxzer: | juski: yeas |
[12:54:00] | juski: | the setup instructions tend to assume you're starting from scratch, not overwriting a previous install you borked |
[12:57:00] | juski: | aanyway |
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[12:57:00] | Merlin83b: | Is there a list of messages that can pass between FE and BE anywhere? |
[12:57:00] | Merlin83b: | Bah, juski might have known that. |
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[13:06:00] | juski: | Merlin83b: look in the doxygen doccys ;-) |
[13:06:00] | juski: | (for details of the myth protocol) |
[13:06:00] | juski: | also in the wiki IIRC |
[13:07:00] | Merlin83b: | doxygen eh? See, I saw that when grepping a bit ago but then didn't look. |
[13:07:00] | Merlin83b: | What's doxygen – just a dic generator like phpdoc, javadoc, etc? |
[13:08:00] | Merlin83b: | make: linuxdoc: Command not found |
[13:08:00] | Merlin83b: | :< |
[13:11:00] | Merlin83b: | juski: http://www.cuymedia.net/doxygen-dev-docs/html/ ? |
[13:12:00] | Merlin83b: | And http://www.cuymedia.net/doxygen-dev-docs/html . . . rotocol.html for instance? |
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[13:15:00] | Merlin83b: | Starting to think about hacking in the transcoder choice thing and tracking down where to do any more than add menu items is proving, um, fun :-) |
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[13:29:00] | Merlin83b: | Ooh, most of the work may already be there... |
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[13:41:00] | lightx: | im having trouble with my mysql database, for some reason its says the MySql server has gone away, but its there i connected to it |
[13:41:00] | lightx: | http://pastebin.ca/41832 |
[13:42:00] | lightx: | anyone have seen this before? |
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[13:43:00] | Kelerion-flux: | juski, I *knew* this camera could do better than it has been doing.. so just plugged it into a better card in a far better machine that can keep up with the fps.. and it's *crystal* clear :) |
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[13:57:00] | daniel_bergamini: | I got a quick question for anyone whos around |
[13:57:00] | daniel_bergamini: | the setup -> video library rescan, what is the command this runs? |
[13:57:00] | Kelerion-flux: | command? |
[13:58:00] | daniel_bergamini: | yeah, what does it do under the covers |
[13:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | It doesn't run any external commande |
[13:58:00] | daniel_bergamini: | I'm constantly moving things in and out of there using scp, it would be easier just to do it from the prompt when I'm finished |
[13:58:00] | Kelerion-flux: | re-scans the directory and compares what is in there with whats in the db |
[13:58:00] | daniel_bergamini: | bummer |
[13:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | If you are constantly moving stuff you could just not bother scanning items in at all |
[13:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | Use Video List, tell it to use the file system directly |
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[14:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use mine as basically a file browser and never scan in the contents |
[14:01:00] | daniel_bergamini: | they weren't showing up in the video list until I scanned |
[14:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | You have to explicitly configure myth to let you browse the file system rather than just what is in the database |
[14:02:00] | daniel_bergamini: | oh, somewhere in the setup? |
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[14:03:00] | Kelerion-flux: | "Video List browses files" option in the setup for mythvideo |
[14:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah |
[14:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | It;s like "Video List browses filesystem" or something like that |
[14:04:00] | daniel_bergamini: | that's great |
[14:04:00] | daniel_bergamini: | a much better solution |
[14:04:00] | Merlin83b: | Yay for mine having that set already. |
[14:04:00] | Merlin83b: | I'd have been amazed and disappointed if it didn't! |
[14:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | daniel_bergamini: If you have a lot of them (and are running 0.19) you can configure it to not bother loading the DB data when in the videolist as well, which can speed up the scan |
[14:05:00] | daniel_bergamini: | what key do I click to select that option? |
[14:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | Which option ? |
[14:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | Both are in the setup menus |
[14:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | as check boxes |
[14:06:00] | Puh: | my mythbackend seems to be stuck in a busy loop |
[14:06:00] | Kelerion-flux: | "Video List Loads Video Meta Data" |
[14:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | Yeah, turn that OFF if you don't want it to b other loading the metadata |
[14:07:00] | dev-: | GreyFoxx: you guys aught to add that the mythtv mysql user needs lock table grants in .19 ;p |
[14:07:00] | Puh: | when i say strace -f -p $PID there seems to be a lot of "[pid 28359] read(19, 0xa94fdab0, 4096) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)" |
[14:07:00] | daniel_bergamini: | what keyboard key is used to (de)select options? |
[14:07:00] | dev-: | caused me at least 20minutes of issues last night upgrading from .18 to .19 ;p |
[14:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | devel: I always add a user with "grant all" :) |
[14:07:00] | ** juski just read the scrollback ** | |
[14:07:00] | dev-: | GreyFoxx: thats bad ;p |
[14:07:00] | juski: | Merlin83b: useful? ;-) |
[14:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | bah |
[14:08:00] | Merlin83b: | What's useful, juski? |
[14:08:00] | juski: | no, having two users with admin priviledges is _good_ |
[14:08:00] | juski: | Merlin83b: the doxygen info |
[14:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | devel: I configure the mythtv user to be "super user" of the mythconverg database with no restrictions. Plus it's already restricted in where they can connect from |
[14:08:00] | Merlin83b: | juski: Heh, not exactly. |
[14:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | s/configure/consider/ |
[14:08:00] | Merlin83b: | Given that there's very little in there. I went back to browsing trac :-) |
[14:09:00] | juski: | ack |
[14:09:00] | Merlin83b: | And may have it sussed. |
[14:09:00] | Merlin83b: | We will find out when I get a free evening or weekend day. |
[14:09:00] | Merlin83b: | :-) |
[14:09:00] | juski: | Merlin83b: what are you doing, may I ask? |
[14:09:00] | Merlin83b: | Thought you'd been part of the conversation... |
[14:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | The mc.sql script that comes with myth for creating the user also uses grant all |
[14:09:00] | Merlin83b: | Allowing user to choose which transcoder to use when they choose "begin transcoding" |
[14:09:00] | juski: | dipped in & out.. busy busy |
[14:09:00] | juski: | ahhh |
[14:10:00] | dev-: | GreyFoxx: to each his own, but ive been raised to give as little privs as possible. just something thats been drilled into my head over the years of admining |
[14:10:00] | Merlin83b: | I often want to swap between commercial but mpeg2 – mpeg2 and actually compress mpeg2 – mpeg4 |
[14:10:00] | dev-: | GreyFoxx: and of course i didnt allow grant all on my box :D |
[14:10:00] | dev-: | GreyFoxx: i did the livetv recordings, btw, great job :) |
[14:10:00] | juski: | why all the paranoia if the only hosts allowed to connect are on your home network? |
[14:10:00] | dev-: | s/did/dig |
[14:11:00] | dev-: | wireless, though thats mac filtered and port/destination filtered, but never know ;) |
[14:11:00] | juski: | ahhh wireless schmireless ;-) |
[14:11:00] | dev-: | besides, your home network should be your training ground for your production clients at work ;) |
[14:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | devel: In general I agree, but in a "dedicated system" with limited access there is no reason not to let the mythtv user do what they will |
[14:12:00] | Kelerion-flux: | plus – it makes life easier |
[14:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | If it's sharing the database with an externally exposed system or other databsaes that's different |
[14:12:00] | dev-: | still bad practice |
[14:12:00] | juski: | I never bother with sudo in ubuntu either |
[14:12:00] | juski: | I'm a big lad – let me login as root |
[14:13:00] | juski: | I know the implications/risks, and that's the same attitude I apply to my non-AV protected windows box |
[14:13:00] | Kelerion-flux: | "dvdprobe.h:22:37: error: mythtv/dvdnav/ifo_types.h: No such file or directory" whats it after? I have libdvdnav installed |
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[14:15:00] | juski: | Kelerion-flux: wouldn't you need to have the source for libdvdnav ? |
[14:15:00] | Kelerion-flux: | libdvdnav-dev – yeah.. it's installed |
[14:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | devel: I agree and disagree. in a real world scenario I agree totally, lock it down hard. In a controlled environment, where you are not dealing with critical data, on boxes that are not publicly reachable (and shame on you if it is) then I don't see it as a problem. But like assholes we all get to have an opinion :) |
[14:16:00] | Kelerion-flux: | I've built this plugin dozens and dozens of times.. lol |
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[14:16:00] | juski: | I'm with GreyFoxx on this one.. home networks aren't good 'readl world' examples |
[14:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | Especially when 99% of myth users have nothing but myth in that database, and it's bound only to localhost or just available via a unix socket |
[14:18:00] | dev-: | sorry, but they are. at least, if you use the same os' at home that you do with your clients they are |
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[14:18:00] | juski: | I don't have 'clients', and don't plan to get into system admin roles |
[14:19:00] | dev-: | then it doesnt matter 1 bit to you :) |
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[14:19:00] | dev-: | ive been setting up custom solutions for high availability, 99.9% SLA's, for 9years now |
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[14:19:00] | Kelerion-flux: | thats actually failing while compiling mtd |
[14:19:00] | juski: | I can see the point of locking it down – but I balance the need for security against the inconvenience it causes me |
[14:19:00] | dev-: | so for me, my home network is a great testbed for shit i cant do on regular clients ;) |
[14:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | I have many clients, and all use the same OS, but that doesn't mean that I have to treat my private boxes, unreachable, personal boxes the same as I do a clients reachable, public machine |
[14:19:00] | dev-: | juski: if security is done right, there is no inconvenience |
[14:20:00] | Baylink: | dev-: three nines? HA? Oh: SLA. Got it. |
[14:20:00] | juski: | mythweb is locked down to one of only 3 IP addresses allowed to access it, and only port 80 is available from the outside world, bar my ssh port |
[14:20:00] | dev-: | sure i had a problem my slavebackend last night because mythtv needed lock tables grant, but thats because the documentation, im assuming, assumes you grant all to your mythtv user.. which is a poor assumption |
[14:21:00] | juski: | not even my ssh port is running on a standard port btw |
[14:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | devel: It assumes you use the mythtv provided script to create the user |
[14:21:00] | dev-: | stop calling me devel lol |
[14:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's auto complete, and I didn;t care enough to turn it off ;) |
[14:21:00] | dev-: | ok greyfoxxymomma |
[14:22:00] | juski: | my router/firewall tends to crash before it lets anything past it – extra Linksys protection there ;-) |
[14:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | dev-: *shrug* I'm not that easily offended :) |
[14:23:00] | dev-: | foxxymomma is a compliment |
[14:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | Sure, if I was a woman, or if you were Gay and making a pass :) But alas I'm not and I assume you aren't... but I'll take it as a compliment anyway :) |
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[14:25:00] | Cromz: | I like the .19 liveTV stuff, keeps the shows like I recorded them. that is a real nice feature. |
[14:25:00] | dev-: | haha, so logical, you kill me. but i guess idleing in here makes you that way |
[14:25:00] | juski: | wow. somebody likes it. I might edit the menu in 0.19 to disallow livetv |
[14:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | devel: Hehe |
[14:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | err dev-: hehe |
[14:25:00] | dev-: | :P |
[14:26:00] | Merlin83b: | lol juski |
[14:26:00] | dev-: | hey i said i dug the livetv recordings too |
[14:26:00] | Merlin83b: | So long as they expire properly I like them :-) |
[14:26:00] | Cromz: | juski, :P |
[14:26:00] | juski: | I don't use it, and it causes me an extra keypress to watch recordings |
[14:26:00] | dev-: | though keeping them for a day by default was kind of, i dunno, pointless. extended it a little |
[14:27:00] | Merlin83b: | It was 7 days when it hit SVN, dev-. Mine got left at that :-) |
[14:27:00] | dev-: | have a couple hundred gig that never get used because recordings rarely spill over to encoders on the slavebackend. but all the livetv watching goes on it. so it works out great. |
[14:27:00] | dev-: | 7days sounds good, i upped it to 5 to see what kind of useage it uses |
[14:28:00] | dev-: | same bitrates as my recordings, just not sure how much livetv we actually watch |
[14:28:00] | Cromz: | sometimes I have livetv on for basicly noise while I'm playing city of heroes.. and alot of that I don't want to record. maybe half ass watch. but then again before with the ringbuff I'd have to search to see if it comes on again then record. |
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[14:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | LiveTV... What's that ? Seems vaguely familiar |
[14:30:00] | juski: | GreyFoxx: just like recorded TV, but less point to it ;-) |
[14:30:00] | dev-: | unless you have a few pee breaks, cook dinner, then come back |
[14:30:00] | dev-: | commercials are just unbearable now heh |
[14:31:00] | Merlin83b: | That's what the pause button's for, dev- :-) |
[14:31:00] | dev-: | exactly |
[14:31:00] | dev-: | build up a nice buffer on the pee breaks/dinner cooking |
[14:31:00] | juski: | they always were unbearable, but now with 'Sheila's Wheels' & 'Safestyle BOGOF' ads they're even worse |
[14:32:00] | dev-: | the olympics i cant stand. they play the same f'n commercials over and over and over |
[14:32:00] | juski: | music channel ads.. for phone ringtones |
[14:32:00] | dev-: | im so sick of hearing about the 07 suburban ill never ever think of buying one |
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[14:32:00] | ** juski shudders at the memory of Crazy Frog ** | |
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[14:34:00] | Merlin83b: | Heh. |
[14:36:00] | rjune: | I forget, what's the good TV tuner card to get again? |
[14:37:00] | juski: | I've actually been watching some ad breaks to try & get a handle on why commflagging isn't working |
[14:37:00] | dev-: | whats a tuner card? |
[14:37:00] | Merlin83b: | rjune: I think you chose a PVR500 the other day. |
[14:37:00] | juski: | rjune: pvr150 / pvr500 |
[14:37:00] | Cromz: | hmmm maybe I should have said 'inprogress recordings that I dont expect to keep' instead if livetv.. |
[14:37:00] | dev-: | ;p |
[14:37:00] | rjune: | Merlin83b: I wish. |
[14:37:00] | johnp_: | cos we're not American ? |
[14:37:00] | rjune: | I've got an avermedia card |
[14:37:00] | juski: | johnp_: I'm sure there's a pattern |
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[14:38:00] | dev-: | commflagging uses more than the ratings box |
[14:38:00] | dev-: | it should work overseas too |
[14:38:00] | juski: | it works, sometimes |
[14:38:00] | johnp_: | juski: I think one problem is , that most of the DVB-T channels all use a different *thing* to mark adverts. |
[14:39:00] | dev-: | you have it set to strict detection useing All methods right? |
[14:39:00] | juski: | dev: yep |
[14:39:00] | dev-: | ;/ bummer.. id say it works 90% of the time. but still not enough to auto-transcode comms out |
[14:40:00] | DSC22 is now known as DSC | |
[14:40:00] | dev-: | but im not complaining. works well enough here. but im in the us ;/ |
[14:40:00] | juski: | well skipping would be a start for me |
[14:41:00] | juski: | a common thing seems to be the last ad of the break has a still frame for a couple of seconds |
[14:41:00] | dev-: | i run into that alot on spiketv |
[14:41:00] | dev-: | have to ffrd for a couple seconds |
[14:42:00] | juski: | I could live with that |
[14:45:00] | Kelerion-flux: | ok – I give in.. mythdvd/mtd won't compile.. don't need it on this frontend anyways |
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[14:47:00] | Kelerion-flux: | juski, have a look at this a second if you got time |
[14:47:00] | juski: | okees |
[14:48:00] | juski: | look at what? ;-) |
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[14:49:00] | Kelerion-flux: | http://www.8010.co.uk/camera/Screenshot.png |
[14:49:00] | juski: | btw who said they were gonna bring a system to LugRadioLive2006 to be alongside mine? |
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[14:50:00] | Kelerion-flux: | I moved the camera to a new card on a better pc.. because I *knew* the cam could do better.. thats pretty clear huh? |
[14:50:00] | ** juski 's eyes gape in wonder ** | |
[14:51:00] | juski: | good enough for a positive ID, fer sure :-D |
[14:51:00] | Kelerion-flux: | yup |
[14:52:00] | Kelerion-flux: | just need to do the same in a few hours when it gets dark.. see if it's good enough then too |
[14:52:00] | juski: | what was it like before? |
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[14:52:00] | Kelerion-flux: | fuzzy.. blurry.. not enough fps so when pauses it was like 2 images mixed together |
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[14:52:00] | juski: | ahh.. v4l capture was it? |
[14:52:00] | Kelerion-flux: | yup |
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[14:53:00] | juski: | |
[14:53:00] | Kelerion-flux: | that one was with xawtv's recording.. and I was messing with the colors so it could be even better.. but thats ood enough |
[14:53:00] | Blammo[work]: | anyone have any suggestions for the right deinterlacer/etc to use when your output and output device at 1080i? IE I still get field 'issues' when I don't do any de-interlacing at all. |
[14:53:00] | Kelerion-flux: | £130 from maplins |
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[14:54:00] | juski: | Kelerion-flux: looks like a good un anyway – colour balance & exposure are good for a camera of that price |
[14:55:00] | juski: | good lens too -not too wide angle |
[14:55:00] | Kelerion-flux: | http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo= . . . amp;doy=16m2 |
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[14:57:00] | juski: | whoah! how many LEDs? |
[14:57:00] | Kelerion-flux: | 104.. lol |
[14:58:00] | juski: | beware the halo when they come on though – tried it in the dark yet? |
[14:58:00] | Merlin83b: | Is that you in the picture, Kelerion-flux ;-) |
[14:58:00] | Kelerion-flux: | yup.. but only with myth.. the police said it was good enough.. but I think it can be better.. so thats why I'm messing again with it on a new card with a better pc |
[14:59:00] | Kelerion-flux: | no it ain't.. lol |
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[15:04:00] | juski: | Kelerion: if illumination is still an issue I can give you details of a nice big IR floodlight |
[15:05:00] | juski: | though if anyone stares into it long enough they might go blind :-D |
[15:06:00] | Beirdo: | anyone have a ubuntu breezy box handy? |
[15:06:00] | Beirdo: | I have several, but they are on the other side of my busted DSL |
[15:06:00] | juski: | sorry no – if I was at home I could just switch it on |
[15:07:00] | juski: | no WOL available on that box |
[15:07:00] | Beirdo: | just wanted to know which version of a couple debs I should download to install tonight (since DSL is still down) |
[15:07:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
[15:07:00] | Beirdo: | nothing an apt-cache policy blah couldn't tell me |
[15:07:00] | Beirdo: | but I can't access em |
[15:07:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
[15:07:00] | juski: | do ubuntu not have web accessible lists of that sort? |
[15:08:00] | Beirdo: | probably |
[15:08:00] | Beirdo: | dunno where though |
[15:08:00] | Beirdo: | but that's a good point |
[15:08:00] | Beirdo: | can you tell it's morning? didn't even think of that |
[15:09:00] | juski: | heh |
[15:09:00] | Kelerion-flux: | breezy here |
[15:09:00] | juski: | gentoo has a 'browse portage thingy', so it's logical that breezy would have similar |
[15:09:00] | Beirdo: | Kelerion-flux: you mind finding what versions of: ircd-hybrid, libpcre3-dev I should grab? :) |
[15:10:00] | Beirdo: | still looking for the package tree online |
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[15:10:00] | Beirdo: | oh DUH |
[15:10:00] | Beirdo: | packages.ubuntu.com |
[15:10:00] | Kelerion-flux: | whats the apt-get command to find a version of a file again? |
[15:10:00] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
[15:11:00] | Blammo[work]: | apt-cache? |
[15:11:00] | Beirdo: | apt-cache policy ircd-hybrid |
[15:11:00] | Beirdo: | it's in universe |
[15:11:00] | Beirdo: | never mind though, I found the site |
[15:11:00] | Kelerion-flux: | 1:7.0.3–3 0 |
[15:11:00] | Beirdo: | it was too obvious :) |
[15:11:00] | Beirdo: | thanks :) |
[15:12:00] | ** juski bookmarks that one ** | |
[15:12:00] | Beirdo: | I needed to setup a test IRC server for testing my bot while the DSL is still out |
[15:12:00] | Kelerion-flux: | np :) and it's 5.0–1.1ubuntu2 for libpcre if you haven't found it yet |
[15:12:00] | Beirdo: | although, theoretically, it should be back tomorrow |
[15:12:00] | Beirdo: | thanks :) |
[15:12:00] | Beirdo: | just gonna bring the debs home on a USB key and dpkg em |
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[15:13:00] | Kelerion-flux: | have all it's deps? |
[15:13:00] | Beirdo: | for ircd-hybrid? I think so |
[15:14:00] | Kelerion-flux: | Dependencies: |
[15:14:00] | Kelerion-flux: | 1:7.0.3–3 – libc6 (2 2.3.4–1) zlib1g (2 1:1.2.1) debconf (18 0.5) debconf-2.0 (0 (null)) whois (0 (null)) ircd-ircu (0 (null)) ircd-irc2 (0 (null)) dancer-ircd (0 (null)) oftc-hybrid (0 (null)) ircd (0 (null)) |
[15:14:00] | Beirdo: | sounds good |
[15:14:00] | Beirdo: | hmmm, why can't I find libpcre in the pool? |
[15:16:00] | Beirdo: | well, libpcre3-dev to be exact. |
[15:16:00] | Beirdo: | hmmm |
[15:17:00] | juski: | reset |
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[15:19:00] | Kelerion-flux: | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy/i . . . 0-1.1ubuntu2 |
[15:19:00] | Beirdo: | so not used to doing things by hand :) |
[15:19:00] | Beirdo: | ARGH |
[15:19:00] | Kelerion-flux: | wait.. thats an older version |
[15:19:00] | Beirdo: | they put it under /p/pcre |
[15:19:00] | Beirdo: | idiots |
[15:20:00] | Kelerion-flux: | ahh.. so they did... I was looking in libp too.. lol |
[15:20:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
[15:20:00] | Beirdo: | no wonder I couldn't find it |
[15:21:00] | Beirdo: | I know that the libs are installed, but need the -dev too |
[15:21:00] | Beirdo: | should be fun |
[15:22:00] | Beirdo: | that will let the bot do regular expressions on what's said in a channel :) |
[15:22:00] | Beirdo: | once I'm ready, I should make a .deb :) |
[15:22:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
[15:25:00] | juski: | bah.. more Pb-free shennanigans |
[15:31:00] | Kelerion-flux: | ok.. so I think xawtv uses ffmpeg.. and if thats the case what I need to do next it figure out what xawtv is using for it's ffmpeg defaults.. then I can do the dame directly with ffmpeg.. then I get some stuff together to record on schedule |
[15:31:00] | Kelerion-flux: | s/dame/same |
[15:32:00] | Kelerion-flux: | btw.. we got the kids arrested.. and the stone throwing has stopped (for a while) so am just doing this as a pet project now :) |
[15:32:00] | Beirdo: | blog spammers should be shot |
[15:33:00] | juski: | at least castrate them so they can't reproduce |
[15:33:00] | juski: | heh.. shoot them in the nuts |
[15:33:00] | Kelerion-flux: | oh I wish I could.. really.. lol |
[15:33:00] | Beirdo: | that would do it |
[15:33:00] | Kelerion-flux: | oh.. we on about the spammers now... lol |
[15:35:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: all that frustration... emerge libpcre |
[15:35:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: done! |
[15:35:00] | Beirdo: | that won't work either |
[15:35:00] | Beirdo: | you missed the crucial point |
[15:35:00] | Beirdo: | no internet connectivity |
[15:36:00] | Beirdo: | apt-get works great given internet connectivity ya know |
[15:36:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: sure sure |
[15:36:00] | Cardoe: | ;) |
[15:36:00] | Kelerion-flux: | Beirdo, you need your own local apt repo in case your in this position again |
[15:36:00] | Cardoe: | I just had to give you a hard time |
[15:37:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
[15:37:00] | Beirdo: | I don't want to waste my bandwidth mirroring all the packages |
[15:37:00] | Kelerion-flux: | I did that before with 'yam'.. worked great.. and made setting up a new pc *tons* quicker |
[15:39:00] | Beirdo: | eeeeek |
[15:39:00] | Beirdo: | I think the libcurl3-dev can wait until I have internet |
[15:39:00] | Beirdo: | way too many deps to bother hand-downloading |
[15:40:00] | Beirdo: | so rss parsing can wait a few days |
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[16:29:00] | Mobleman: | Is it possible to record and watch tv at the same time with only one tv-card? |
[16:30:00] | juski: | Mobleman: you can find out by reading the FM |
[16:30:00] | Mobleman: | fm? |
[16:30:00] | Mobleman: | (: |
[16:30:00] | Beirdo: | as in RTFM |
[16:30:00] | juski: | yes, if you want to record what you watch |
[16:30:00] | Mobleman: | Ahh.. :P |
[16:31:00] | juski: | actually now livetv is actually the same as doing that |
[16:31:00] | Mobleman: | So it's up to the card? |
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[16:31:00] | Beirdo: | hmm? |
[16:31:00] | juski: | no, mythtv always records live tv – it always has – only now you can keep what you record |
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[16:32:00] | juski: | and you've always been able to record something & then watch the recording in progress |
[16:32:00] | Beirdo: | or watch another previously recorded program |
[16:32:00] | Mobleman: | ok... |
[16:32:00] | Mobleman: | I'm planning to buy a Hauppage PVR-150... |
[16:33:00] | juski: | that's nice |
[16:33:00] | ** dev- golf claps ** | |
[16:33:00] | juski: | do some reading at ivtvdriver.org |
[16:33:00] | Mobleman: | But in the local store they have a mediacenter with 2 of them... Is it nessecary? |
[16:33:00] | dev-: | mythtv.org wouldnt hurt either ;p |
[16:33:00] | Beirdo: | ahhh |
[16:33:00] | juski: | do you need a remote? if so buy the retail version |
[16:34:00] | Beirdo: | rammed another 553 spam through sa-learn |
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[16:34:00] | juski: | the 'MCE Kit' version should have a remote included too, but the plain 'MCE' version (MCE OEM iirc) is just a card in a bag |
[16:35:00] | juski: | if they include windows MCE & charge for it, tell em where to shove it ;-) |
[16:35:00] | Mobleman: | juski: They sell it with a remote and MCE:.. |
[16:36:00] | Beirdo: | talking 'bout diamonds on the soles of her shoes... |
[16:36:00] | squish102: | has any1 tried a fresh install of FC4 and atrpms "yum install myth-suite" I'm getting an error: |
[16:36:00] | squish102: | Missing Dependency: mythweb >= 0.18 is needed by package mythtv-suite |
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[16:45:00] | juski: | be much better to buy the pvr150 without MCE 'software' though – not to mention _cheaper_ |
[16:45:00] | dev-: | lame problem in .19, if i ffwrd through a recording at 10x+ after a few seconds the frontend scrolls prebuffering pause messages until either increase ffrwd speed or hit play/esc |
[16:46:00] | dev-: | this is new to .19 ;/ didnt do it in .18, only the remote frontends do it |
[16:46:00] | Beirdo: | so check for bug reports, etc |
[16:47:00] | juski: | erm.. if you're ffwding, why would it matter? |
[16:47:00] | dev-: | Beirdo: good idea! |
[16:47:00] | dev-: | juski: um, because ffrwd stops when it scrolls |
[16:47:00] | juski: | ah |
[16:48:00] | juski: | btw is it possible to get smoother ffwd action? |
[16:49:00] | Beirdo: | BITCHIN |
[16:49:00] | Beirdo: | my DSL is back |
[16:50:00] | juski: | getting a refund for the time you were without it? |
[16:50:00] | Beirdo: | hell, yeah |
[16:50:00] | Beirdo: | it was a full week |
[16:50:00] | Beirdo: | I'd better |
[16:50:00] | juski: | good-o |
[16:50:00] | Beirdo: | which means I can apt-get now :) |
[16:50:00] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
[16:52:00] | Beirdo: | my poor DSL is likely getting hosed with all the mail now |
[16:53:00] | juski: | godammit it, we just signed off a 25fps recorder, defined by the 'budget' name of the unit. now the USA wants the same 'budget' unit but with more fps |
[16:56:00] | ivor: | juski: but that'll be the "premium" edition surely? :) |
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[16:56:00] | juski: | ivor: budget+ :-/ |
[16:57:00] | juski: | ass-holeys. I'm really starting to disklike them |
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[16:59:00] | Blammo[work]: | squish102: Might try uncommenting the atrpms-testing, see if it resolves it |
[17:01:00] | dev-: | beirdo would you mind pointing me in the right direction for bug reports |
[17:01:00] | dev-: | to view etc |
[17:01:00] | Beirdo: | svn.mythtv.org |
[17:01:00] | dev-: | of course |
[17:01:00] | dev-: | right when i ask, i find it |
[17:01:00] | dev-: | thanks heh |
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[17:12:00] | juski: | ooo apparently the manchester linux user group are having a talk about mythtv this saturday |
[17:13:00] | tweak_st: | those rowdy manchester united fans |
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[17:14:00] | dagar: | is it possible to automatically create a cutlist from commflag? |
[17:15:00] | juski: | tweak_st: don't you know anything? hardly any man utd fans actually live in manchester ;-) |
[17:16:00] | tweak_st: | bloody europeans ;) |
[17:16:00] | juski: | prolly more ManUtd fans in south africa than here |
[17:17:00] | Merlin83b: | Are you in manlug, juski? |
[17:17:00] | dev-: | manjuice? |
[17:18:00] | juski: | manlug? nah |
[17:18:00] | juski: | I'm yet to be convinced that they cover subjects I'll even remotely begin to understand |
[17:19:00] | juski: | and I only really got into linux because of mythtv |
[17:19:00] | Merlin83b: | Heh, not for me wither. |
[17:19:00] | Merlin83b: | I haven't used linux for a couple of years prior to getting mythtv going. |
[17:19:00] | Merlin83b: | And my use now consists of compiling mythtv every now and then :-) |
[17:20:00] | juski: | I draw the line at being geeky just for the sake of being geeky |
[17:20:00] | juski: | not that there's anything wrong in that – it's just not me |
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[17:21:00] | Merlin83b: | Ditto |
[17:21:00] | thaJeepJerk: | anyone here up on their multicasting or know a good channel to ask about this stuff in? |
[17:22:00] | Blammo[work]: | thaJeepJerk : on cisco? |
[17:22:00] | ** juski looks at the manlug webpage ** | |
[17:23:00] | thaJeepJerk: | just in general IGMP |
[17:23:00] | Blammo[work]: | thaJeepJerk : Sure – go ahead. |
[17:23:00] | thaJeepJerk: | so obviously routers need to be IGMP enabled |
[17:24:00] | thaJeepJerk: | what about switches? my senses tell me yes |
[17:24:00] | Blammo[work]: | L2 or L3? |
[17:24:00] | Blammo[work]: | on the switches? |
[17:24:00] | thaJeepJerk: | L3 |
[17:24:00] | Blammo[work]: | cisco switches? |
[17:24:00] | thaJeepJerk: | procurve |
[17:24:00] | thaJeepJerk: | HP |
[17:25:00] | Blammo[work]: | hmmm.. on Cisco's side, there's something called CGMP, which allows the switch to do a little off-the-side pruning of multicast, once the IGMP message gets to the router, and the router starts pushing the source out. |
[17:25:00] | Blammo[work]: | not sure if you have that option on the procurves |
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[17:26:00] | juski: | OMG... I'm saying nothing about that |
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[17:31:00] | juski: | might pop along on saturdy anyway – might learn summink new |
[17:31:00] | Merlin83b: | Where is it? |
[17:32:00] | Merlin83b: | I almost certainly won't though... |
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[17:32:00] | juski: | manchester uni |
[17:32:00] | Merlin83b: | Any more specific? |
[17:32:00] | juski: | there should be a UK UG meeting for a few jars I reckon |
[17:32:00] | Merlin83b: | :-) |
[17:32:00] | Merlin83b: | Hey, I like beer... |
[17:32:00] | juski: | er.. look on the MLUG webpage |
[17:33:00] | Merlin83b: | Bah |
[17:33:00] | laga: | beer == good |
[17:33:00] | juski: | hang on I'll dig it up again |
[17:33:00] | Merlin83b: | Oh, got it. |
[17:33:00] | Merlin83b: | That's about 5 minutes walk from where I live. |
[17:34:00] | juski: | manchester computer centre.. just off oxford rd |
[17:34:00] | Merlin83b: | Yeah |
[17:34:00] | juski: | kilburn building |
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[17:34:00] | juski: | you live that close? |
[17:34:00] | Merlin83b: | Yep |
[17:35:00] | juski: | must be nice being the right side of town for the night buses |
[17:36:00] | Merlin83b: | I'm less than 5 minutes to picadilly gardens, so it's all good for me :-) |
[17:36:00] | juski: | love manchester for all but one thing – taxi queues |
[17:36:00] | Merlin83b: | Yeah, thankfully I rarely have to use them. |
[17:37:00] | juski: | (when the wife taxi isnt operating of course) |
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[17:37:00] | Merlin83b: | I have no car. No point living in the city centre, plus parking would be oh-so-pricey. |
[17:37:00] | Blammo[work]: | brb |
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[17:38:00] | juski: | oh yeh – now I remember you saying |
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[17:39:00] | Merlin83b: | Heh, the car bit sticks :> |
[17:39:00] | juski: | sometimes I'd love not to have to rely on my car |
[17:40:00] | malaTG41: | hmmm yesterday I tried to include information about my roms in mythgame into my database so I wrote " cat romdb-20051116–02.sql | mysql -umythtv -pmythtv mythconverg" however I still don't get any information about the roms.... any ideas anyone? |
[17:41:00] | juski: | did the .sql file have mysql commands in it or as it just a list? |
[17:41:00] | juski: | *was it |
[17:41:00] | malaTG41: | I took the one from the source |
[17:41:00] | Merlin83b: | mysql < blah.sql |
[17:41:00] | Merlin83b: | Is more common. |
[17:42:00] | malaTG41: | I may have figured it out the wrong password :-) However I cant remember my old anyway to figure it out or replace it........ |
[17:42:00] | malaTG41: | is there anyway* |
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[17:49:00] | xris: | malaTG41: for mysql? you should be able to reset the root password as root with mysqladmin |
[17:49:00] | Kelerion: | you need the old password to reset it though I think |
[17:49:00] | malaTG41: | oki thx |
[17:50:00] | juski: | there's a way to rescue it without needing a password |
[17:51:00] | juski: | plenty about that on google |
[17:51:00] | Kelerion: | http://www.alt-php-faq.org/local/70/ |
[17:51:00] | Kelerion: | yup |
[17:52:00] | Kelerion: | well.. good so far.. it's dropping darker.. so am monitoring the cam to see if the changes I've made work in the dark.. lol |
[17:52:00] | juski: | timeto burn another CD & measure the current consumption |
[17:53:00] | juski: | I really hope we can't give the yanks what they want :-) |
[17:54:00] | Kelerion: | what do they want? |
[17:54:00] | juski: | more, faster, cheap |
[17:54:00] | juski: | just signed of a 25pps budget range recorder |
[17:54:00] | juski: | they want 50pps |
[17:54:00] | Kelerion: | fps? |
[17:55:00] | juski: | pps = pics per sec |
[17:55:00] | Kelerion: | ahh.. ouch.. thats a *lot* |
[17:56:00] | juski: | if we release a 9 input unit they'll say "we got this customer who only wants 8 inputs" |
[17:56:00] | juski: | so er.. but the 8 input one & have a little room to expand, dummies |
[17:57:00] | juski: | this keyboard is crapacular |
[17:58:00] | Beirdo: | YAY, my bot lives |
[17:58:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
[17:59:00] | Baylink: | ? |
[17:59:00] | juski: | give it a strong curry – your bot wont seem so alive a while later |
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[18:01:00] | juski: | hahaha PSU consumtion is too close to the max... can't wait to tell em |
[18:01:00] | Kelerion: | you know they'll just tell you to put a bigger psu in.. :P |
[18:01:00] | juski: | 6A on the 5v rail maximum – the config they wnt draws 5.95A peak |
[18:02:00] | juski: | we just changed the PSU to keep em happier w.r.t noise output |
[18:03:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
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[18:03:00] | juski: | still – not bad for a little 65W brick |
[18:03:00] | Beirdo: | lunch time |
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[18:04:00] | juski: | ah sod it I'll sign it off |
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[18:10:00] | _jon: | I compiled from source after an install from ubuntu repository. Now, I'm getting an error that GANT theme can't be found. |
[18:10:00] | _jon: | How do I get mythtv to use another theme? |
[18:11:00] | Kelerion: | need to install myththemes |
[18:12:00] | Kelerion: | then you can alter the current theme by going into mythfrontend->setup->appearance |
[18:12:00] | _jon: | I did. But, gant isn't in there. It was the default that the ubuntu package used. |
[18:13:00] | Chutt: | gant's part of the main source package. |
[18:14:00] | _jon: | I'll try recompiling then. Thanks. |
[18:14:00] | Kelerion: | run frontend from a terminal.. see where it's trying to load it from.. it should be: /usr/local/share/mythtv/themes/G.A.N.T./ |
[18:14:00] | Kelerion: | or /usr/share/mythtv/themes/G.A.N.T./ |
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[18:18:00] | juski: | right – tis hometime by my reckoning |
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[18:19:00] | malaTG41: | Ok I have checked my mysql database and all the game information is in there however I dont get any information in mythfrontend anyone have any ideas on how to attack this....? |
[18:20:00] | malaTG41: | Could it be because I am using Axels distro? |
[18:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | no, after importing the romdb info, you have to clear the existing game info and scan again |
[18:27:00] | malaTG41: | ok Ill try that |
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[18:43:00] | malaTG41: | GreyFoxx : hmm it didn't work |
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[18:44:00] | malaTG41: | still get unknown on every rom..... |
[18:45:00] | malaTG41: | at least for year and genre |
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[18:49:00] | nomego: | Heya guys |
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[18:49:00] | nomego: | How do I start over with my tv-configuration? channels and recorders and stuff like that? |
[18:51:00] | jams: | run mythtv-setup and delete all cards and video sources. |
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[18:57:00] | nomego: | I still get this when running the grabber: Error in 143:47: letter is expected |
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[19:13:00] | brian_: | Hi, I have used mythtv before, but I am looking to set up a media center at a friends house without having TV. Mainly just a frontend for music and video. Would mythtv still be the best candidate for this or is there maybe another prohect I might look into? |
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[19:14:00] | brian_: | Err I meant without having TV input |
[19:14:00] | psofa__: | can i have the dvb card on the backend pc and the frontend to another one and still be able to watch livetv? |
[19:15:00] | psofa__: | hmm im not making sense |
[19:15:00] | psofa__: | can the frontend on the pc access the dvb card on the backend pc? |
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[19:17:00] | xris: | psofa__: that's sort of the point |
[19:18:00] | psofa__: | nice :) |
[19:18:00] | psofa__: | will there be a problem updating from svn to 0.19? |
[19:19:00] | psofa__: | i mean are there many database changes? |
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[19:20:00] | xris: | myth should handle it |
[19:21:00] | xris: | I've upgraded incrementally in svn with no problems, and from .18.1 to svn, too |
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[19:32:00] | Niklas_E: | Hi |
[19:33:00] | psofa__: | another question: im using mythvideo.The videos are saved to the backend.Will the remote frontend be able to play the videos?I mean obviously theyd be played localy by the frontends program.But will the backend play the role of a file server? |
[19:34:00] | Niklas_E: | anyone got dvb-s to work? |
[19:34:00] | psofa__: | with 0.19 or generally? |
[19:34:00] | Niklas_E: | yeah |
[19:35:00] | psofa__: | -_- |
[19:36:00] | Niklas_E: | I haven't used the dvb-s before but can't make it work with mythtv, well 0.19 and/or generally |
[19:36:00] | Niklas_E: | it works with linuxtv's szap and mplayer |
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[19:37:00] | Niklas_E: | or do I need a new kernel? |
[19:37:00] | xris: | psofa__: mythvideo has nothing to do with the backend |
[19:37:00] | xris: | neither does mythmusic |
[19:39:00] | psofa__: | xris, no it does |
[19:39:00] | psofa__: | the video gallery is stored to the backend |
[19:40:00] | psofa__: | obviously the videos themselves are played localy by the frontend |
[19:40:00] | Chutt: | mythvideo and mythmusic are frontend only plugins. |
[19:40:00] | Chutt: | the backend has nothing to do with them. |
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[19:41:00] | psofa__: | sry i thought things that are stored to the database are backend only |
[19:42:00] | Juski: | m m mmmm that was a tasty fajita |
[19:42:00] | xris: | psofa__: no, it's stored in the database |
[19:43:00] | BeanHead905: | hi xris, we exchanged e-mails a while ago regarding mythweb |
[19:43:00] | BeanHead905: | I can't seem to get mod_rewrite working for me |
[19:43:00] | psofa__: | so the backends database will have the gallery info for the frontend too but it will refer to files local to the frontend? |
[19:43:00] | Juski: | psofa__: the files can be anywhere you like |
[19:44:00] | xris: | BeanHead905: error? |
[19:44:00] | Juski: | but the pathnames are all relative to the frontend in question |
[19:44:00] | psofa__: | okay i got it |
[19:44:00] | psofa__: | ty |
[19:44:00] | jerky_3: | brian_, i think myth TV would still be a good selection for that... it makes a nice frontend for even non-TV stuff |
[19:44:00] | BeanHead905: | no errors – apache prompts me for password, then get blank page – so .htaccess is being read, but goes no further |
[19:44:00] | jerky_3: | i use it as a frontend for downloaded videos, music, and my pictures a lot. plus you can run emulators through it easily |
[19:45:00] | BeanHead905: | when I put http://<server>/mythweb.php, I get that page but none of the links work |
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[19:45:00] | BeanHead905: | I turned on the mod_rewrite log, but it doesn't make a lot of sense to me |
[19:46:00] | brian_: | Thanks jerky, I think I might just edit the TV stuff out of the UI. |
[19:46:00] | xris: | BeanHead905: are your AllowOverride settings correct? |
[19:46:00] | BeanHead905: | <Directory /> |
[19:46:00] | BeanHead905: | Options FollowSymLinks Indexes |
[19:46:00] | BeanHead905: | AllowOverride All |
[19:46:00] | BeanHead905: | Order allow,deny |
[19:46:00] | BeanHead905: | Allow from all |
[19:46:00] | BeanHead905: | </Directory> |
[19:47:00] | BeanHead905: | oops – sorry all |
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[19:49:00] | buddy: | hello everyone :) |
[19:49:00] | xris: | BeanHead905: wrong one |
[19:49:00] | BeanHead905: | wrong which? |
[19:49:00] | xris: | wrong directory |
[19:49:00] | xris: | / should have everything turned off... there's a second one below that to override it |
[19:51:00] | BeanHead905: | mythweb is in apache's / – does it need to be in a mythweb subdir? |
[19:52:00] | xris: | / is /, not apache's docroot |
[19:52:00] | xris: | you're confusing Directory and Location |
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[19:54:00] | BeanHead905: | confused is right. |
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[19:54:00] | xris: | BeanHead905: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/182147. |
[19:54:00] | xris: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/182147 |
[19:54:00] | xris: | stupid . |
[19:55:00] | hfghfh: | have anyone tried the new atrpms version of mythtv 0.19 |
[19:55:00] | xris: | hfghfh: I'm running it on our mythbox at work.. seems stable enough |
[19:55:00] | hfghfh: | i can't get mythweb to work. |
[19:55:00] | xris: | he made a couple of mistakes with the mythweb package |
[19:55:00] | xris: | .htaccess file probably didn't get upgraded |
[19:56:00] | hfghfh: | so how should i look like |
[19:56:00] | xris: | it's set as "don't replace" and there are some necessary changes from .18 |
[19:56:00] | xris: | hfghfh: just rm -rf the mythweb directory, remove and reinstall the package |
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[19:59:00] | hfghfh: | thanks xris, it worked |
[19:59:00] | xris: | :) |
[20:00:00] | Hoxzer: | how do I remove channels from the list when I'm in "channels" in mythtv setup? |
[20:00:00] | buddy: | has anyone here use the *BETA* mythdora install yet? |
[20:01:00] | rjune: | somebody built a myth distro based on fedora? |
[20:02:00] | buddy: | i did |
[20:02:00] | buddy: | i mean mythdoa did :) |
[20:02:00] | buddy: | i mean mythdora did :) |
[20:02:00] | buddy: | i used if for a while |
[20:03:00] | buddy: | http://g-ding.tv/?q= |
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[20:13:00] | buddy: | anyone here???????????????????? |
[20:14:00] | kormoc: | nopers! |
[20:14:00] | buddy: | :) |
[20:14:00] | buddy: | :) |
[20:14:00] | buddy: | mythfilldatabase fails on my PVR looked on mythtv-setup and its set to localhost |
[20:14:00] | buddy: | where else can look to fix connection to SQL DB? |
[20:15:00] | buddy: | 2006-02–16 13:35:14.953 New DB connection, total: 1 |
[20:15:00] | buddy: | No setting found for this machine's BackendServerIP. |
[20:15:00] | buddy: | Please run setup on this machine and modify the first page |
[20:15:00] | buddy: | of the general settings. |
[20:15:00] | buddy: | thats the error in /var/log/mythtv |
[20:16:00] | Beirdo: | so do what it says |
[20:16:00] | buddy: | I have still giveing me same error |
[20:17:00] | buddy: | i put in local IP address still erroring out |
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[20:27:00] | nomego: | any known issues where mythtv crashes on channel-change but xawtv doesn't? |
[20:27:00] | nomego: | how have I configured mythtv wrong? |
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[20:32:00] | chuckyp: | Is zap2it screwed up? |
[20:32:00] | chuckyp: | mythfilldatabase is locking my system up. |
[20:32:00] | chuckyp: | at updating programs |
[20:33:00] | Chutt: | well, if it's locking your system up, i would think you have a serious hardware problem |
[20:33:00] | Chutt: | not 'zap2it screwed up' |
[20:33:00] | nomego: | should one configure something for changing channels or can mythtv do it on its own? |
[20:35:00] | BeanHead905: | xris – I fixed my AllowOverride settings, but I'm back to sq.1 |
[20:35:00] | BeanHead905: | I see mod_redirect trying to pass me the proper page but it's not working :( |
[20:35:00] | xris: | nomego: depends on what kind of tuner setup you have. I need an external script and ir blaster to control my satellite box, but my ATSC card works fine internally |
[20:36:00] | xris: | BeanHead905: what exactly is happening? |
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[20:37:00] | BeanHead905: | xris: you ever looked at the mod_redirect log before? |
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[20:40:00] | xris: | BeanHead905: I don't think so |
[20:40:00] | xris: | but you want mod_rewrite, not mod_redirect |
[20:41:00] | BeanHead905: | xris: when I point to http://<myserver> I get login prompt, then blank page. At this point I see mod_redirect is trying to send me mythweb.php but it doesn't |
[20:42:00] | xris: | BeanHead905: it shouldn't send you anywhere... it should run mythweb.php but not redirect the browser. |
[20:42:00] | xris: | but what does the error log say? |
[20:42:00] | BeanHead905: | xris: when I put http://<myserver>/mythweb.php, I get the page but none of the links work |
[20:42:00] | xris: | really sounds like mod_rewrite isn't set up properly |
[20:42:00] | BeanHead905: | xris: I don't see anything that looks like an error. it's too big to post here |
[20:43:00] | nomego: | xris: ok.. because mythtv crashes when I try to change channel .. if I do like I should when I change channel, that is ;) |
[20:43:00] | BeanHead905: | yeah – that's what I think, but I can't see why. |
[20:43:00] | xris: | nomego: .19? |
[20:43:00] | xris: | BeanHead905: what distro? |
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[20:44:00] | BeanHead905: | xris: gentoo |
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[20:44:00] | BeanHead905: | xris: looks like this: applying pattern '^(css|data|images|js|themes|skins|[a-z_]+\.php)(/|$)' to uri 'mythweb.php' |
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[20:45:00] | xris: | BeanHead905: turn on error reporting in php.ini |
[20:45:00] | xris: | I don't think this is a rewrite error |
[20:46:00] | BeanHead905: | yeah – the php error log is a mess |
[20:47:00] | xris: | ok... do you see anything that looks like it might be an issue? |
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[20:47:00] | BeanHead905: | PHP Fatal error: Cannot redeclare setting() (previously declared in /var/www/localhost/htdocs/includes/utils.php:24) in /var/www/localhost/htdocs/includes/utils.php on line 24 |
[20:48:00] | xris: | BeanHead905: I've seen that before. |
[20:48:00] | xris: | in svn.. either I fixed the issue, or the user did a reinstall and things started working..... |
[20:49:00] | xris: | I think it happens when require_once() doesn't work, and lets things get loaded multiple times. |
[20:49:00] | BeanHead905: | re-install of which? |
[20:49:00] | BeanHead905: | done apache, php, mod_php, mythweb – no joy |
[20:50:00] | xris: | and you're definitely running .19 and not an older svn ebuild? |
[20:50:00] | BeanHead905: | mythplugins 8925 – that's .19 right? |
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[20:51:00] | BeanHead905: | and myth 8925 |
[20:51:00] | the_login: | hi all |
[20:51:00] | xris: | dunno, I didn't check the revision number |
[20:52:00] | ** laga wonders why the 0.19 ebuilds would spit out a svn revision number ** | |
[20:52:00] | BeanHead905: | laga: not an ebuild |
[20:52:00] | kormoc: | laga, they wouldn't |
[20:52:00] | kormoc: | BeanHead905, what distro? |
[20:52:00] | BeanHead905: | changeset 8925: Creating tag for the 0.19 release |
[20:52:00] | BeanHead905: | gentoo |
[20:52:00] | kormoc: | BeanHead905, what's your useflags for dev-lang/php? |
[20:53:00] | BeanHead905: | what's an easy way to answer that? only know of my USE flag from /etc/make.conf |
[20:53:00] | kormoc: | BeanHead905, emerge -pv dev-lang/php |
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[20:55:00] | BeanHead905: | kormoc: you want the +'s the -'s or all of it (it's big) |
[20:55:00] | kormoc: | BeanHead905, all of it |
[20:55:00] | BeanHead905: | -adabas -apache +apache2 -bcmath +berkdb -birdstep +bzip2 -calendar -cdb -cgi -cjk -cli +crypt -ctype +curl -curlwrappers -db2 -dba -dbase -dbmaker -debug -discard-path -doc -empress -empress-bcs -esoob +exif -fastbuild -fdftk -filepro -firebird -flatfile -force-cgi-redirect -frontbase -ftp +gd -gd-external +gdbm -gmp -hardenedphp -hyperwave-api -iconv -imap -informix -inifile -interbase -iodbc +ipv6 -java-external -kerberos -ldap -libedit -mcve -m |
[20:56:00] | kormoc: | BeanHead905, you likely should have +apache, +cgi, but they shouldn't cause your issue. |
[20:56:00] | xris: | +apache might |
[20:56:00] | xris: | oh, +apache2 |
[20:56:00] | xris: | that's fine |
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[20:58:00] | BeanHead905: | kormoc: was there something in particular you were looking for? |
[20:59:00] | xris: | BeanHead905: utils.php is only included in 2 places.. init.php and db.php. comment out the one in db.php and see if you get a different error. |
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[21:00:00] | kormoc: | BeanHead905, just compairing against mine |
[21:02:00] | BeanHead905: | seen this before: PHP Fatal error: (null)(): Cannot use both zlib.output_compression and output_handler together!! in Unknown on line 0 |
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[21:04:00] | BeanHead905: | oh – and the Cannot redeclare setting() is still there |
[21:05:00] | Coume: | run laga, run |
[21:05:00] | xris: | BeanHead905: then something's really messed up with your config |
[21:05:00] | BeanHead905: | xris: on some level I feel a bit better to hear that... but on others, not so much |
[21:05:00] | xris: | yeah |
[21:06:00] | xris: | I would suggest you reinstall mythweb.. but make sure you manually rm -rf the all associated files. |
[21:06:00] | BeanHead905: | well. I've done that numerous times... but I will try again. willing to jump through the hoops |
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[21:09:00] | nomego: | how should I configure the "Live TV" in terms of quality and codecs etc |
[21:09:00] | xris: | oh, and php4 or php5? is it configured as an apache module, or as cgi? |
[21:10:00] | xris: | nomego: whatever looks best |
[21:10:00] | nomego: | well I can't get rid of the lag |
[21:10:00] | xris: | what lag? |
[21:10:00] | nomego: | losing frames |
[21:10:00] | kormoc: | BeanHead905, did you edit your php.ini? |
[21:10:00] | xris: | so it's jumpy? |
[21:10:00] | BeanHead905: | kormoc: only to add logging |
[21:10:00] | nomego: | xris: yes |
[21:11:00] | xris: | nomego: what kind of tuner card and cpu? |
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[21:11:00] | kormoc: | BeanHead905, so where does it get both zlib.output_compression and output_handler? |
[21:11:00] | nomego: | xris: 2.4Ghz P4, asus digimatrix tuner on motherboard |
[21:11:00] | xris: | kormoc: could be that the .htaccess is freaking out. |
[21:12:00] | xris: | nomego: that's basically a pvr-250.. hardware mpeg encoder, right? |
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[21:12:00] | nomego: | xris: don't think so.. using v4l2 |
[21:13:00] | BeanHead905: | someone asked versions: mod_php 4.4.0-r9 php 4.4.0-r4 |
[21:14:00] | kormoc: | BeanHead905, you shouldn't have mod_php and dev-lang/php installed at the same time |
[21:14:00] | kormoc: | BeanHead905, you sure you have dev-lang/php installed? or do you have the old php installed? |
[21:14:00] | BeanHead905: | kormoc: really? I think emerge did that for me |
[21:15:00] | BeanHead905: | kormoc: I have dev-php/php |
[21:16:00] | kormoc: | BeanHead905, you really should switch to dev-lang/php, as dev-php/php has been unmaintained for awhile and pending removal from the tree... |
[21:16:00] | BeanHead905: | ahh... ok. now I have some direction to go. time to hit the bar, thanks for all your help and patience everyone |
[21:17:00] | BeanHead905: | and by the way, the complete re-install did not help. |
[21:17:00] | kormoc: | g'luck! |
[21:17:00] | BeanHead905: | cheers |
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[21:23:00] | nomego: | xris: checked "hardware encoder" in the setup and it seems it's smoother now |
[21:27:00] | xris: | nomego: it uses ivtv drivers, no? |
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[21:31:00] | Rince: | Hiho |
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[21:31:00] | MrEntropy: | yo |
[21:31:00] | Rince: | Question: does anyone has a (reliable) source for the german tv program? prisma-online seems to have changed their behaviour... |
[21:31:00] | nomego: | xris: nope.. saa7134 |
[21:31:00] | MrEntropy: | where can i get a list of pre-requisits to compile the native DVD player in mythtv 0.19? |
[21:32:00] | laga: | Rince: tv_grab_de_tvtoday, nxtvepg... |
[21:32:00] | Rince: | laga: where can I find it? |
[21:32:00] | xris: | nomego: but it *is* an mpeg2 hardware encoder card, right?> |
[21:32:00] | Rince: | ah, got it ;) |
[21:32:00] | Chutt: | xris, i like how everything but the ticket resolutions are configurable with trac-admin |
[21:32:00] | laga: | Rince: xmltv. get it from cvs. nxtvepg is a different thing. |
[21:32:00] | nomego: | xris: how would I know? |
[21:33:00] | Rince: | laga: I never used the cvs-version yet... but I found it via search machoie |
[21:34:00] | xris: | Chutt: yeah. that's annoyed me for awhile. |
[21:34:00] | laga: | Rince: you using debian? |
[21:34:00] | xris: | I thnk they intend to make it editable in some future version |
[21:34:00] | xris: | nomego: read the manuals that come with the digimatrix? |
[21:34:00] | Chutt: | i'm trying to figure out if i can just add to that table |
[21:35:00] | xris: | would hope it's just a string. |
[21:35:00] | xris: | probably not configurable because it's all "resolution" rather than "status" |
[21:35:00] | Rince: | laga: yes |
[21:36:00] | Rince: | but on amd64 ;) |
[21:37:00] | laga: | Rince: well, i believe xmltv works on all platforms since it's just perl. try these packages: http://laga.ath.cx/~laga/debian/ |
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[21:37:00] | laga: | Rince: keep in mind that it might a) fuck up your system b) your apt-get will probably upgrade them because upstream release is 0.5.42 or so, so put them on 'hold' or play around with the pinning stuff |
[21:38:00] | Rince: | laga: thanks ;) |
[21:38:00] | laga: | Rince: no problem :) |
[21:38:00] | laga: | Rince: you might wanna follow related threads at de.mythtvtalk.com/forum/ |
[21:38:00] | MrEntropy: | anyone know what the prereq's are for the native dvd player? |
[21:39:00] | laga: | Rince: and regarding the issue with the prisma grabber..get either the latest version or talk to stoffel. join #mythtv-de |
[21:39:00] | Rince: | ok, thanks ;) |
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[21:43:00] | MrEntropy: | got it, it's libdvdnav people. |
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[21:44:00] | toma: | Hi, after upgrading to 0.19, my live tv is kind of unsharp, any clues what that could be? |
[21:44:00] | Rince: | *sigh* nothing in the amd64-reposity with 0.19 |
[21:44:00] | laga: | Rince: marillat? |
[21:47:00] | Rince: | partly, yes |
[21:47:00] | Rince: | I'll try original marillat again ;) |
[21:47:00] | laga: | Rince: marillat has 0.19 packaged for debian sid i386. i'm still waiting for proper sarge packages, though |
[21:48:00] | Rince: | laga: yes, i386 |
[21:48:00] | Rince: | but not amd64 |
[21:50:00] | toma: | any idea abouy the blurry, unsharp picture I have? |
[21:50:00] | nomego: | xris: if I still had it.. |
[21:51:00] | xris: | nomego: asus.com? |
[21:51:00] | laga: | nomego: you can usually download manuals at the asus website |
[21:52:00] | nomego: | well the digimatrix has different tuners depending on which generation it is |
[21:52:00] | nomego: | outertrack.com/digimatrix lists them |
[21:53:00] | nomego: | I know it's probably an LG InnOTEK or something like that.. but I suspect it's not hardware encoder |
[21:54:00] | xris: | ah. the original one was... |
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[21:54:00] | xris: | if you can view tv with xawtv then it's likely not a hardware encoder |
[21:55:00] | xris: | and if that's the case, then you will need to turn down your bitrate so as not to overload your cpu |
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[21:56:00] | chuckyp: | Okay mythfilldatabase hangs after day 8 |
[21:56:00] | chuckyp: | I'm so frustrated right now. |
[21:56:00] | to3cutt3r: | What do I do with an .iso ripped in MythDVD? Automount it then play it? |
[21:56:00] | laga: | chuckyp: well, you in the US? |
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[22:02:00] | Beirdo: | OK, screw this. |
[22:02:00] | Beirdo: | going home |
[22:02:00] | xris: | lol |
[22:02:00] | Beirdo: | to WORKING DSL :) |
[22:02:00] | xris: | now that you have dsl, that's good |
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[22:02:00] | Beirdo: | and good timing too |
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[22:02:00] | Beirdo: | getting my wisdom teeth pulled in 2 days |
[22:02:00] | naetrick: | Hey guys, I'm trying to record something... but it's not doing anything. I hit enter on the selected show, tell it to "Record this program", but nothing happens... |
[22:03:00] | Beirdo: | which may mean up to a week lying on the couch |
[22:03:00] | to3cutt3r: | What do I do with an .iso ripped in MythDVD? Can Mythtv play it? |
[22:03:00] | Beirdo: | TTYL |
[22:03:00] | naetrick: | I also tried pressing "Record", but no go |
[22:03:00] | naetrick: | Rather, the "R" key to record |
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[22:04:00] | naetrick: | It stays on "Not Recording" |
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[22:05:00] | toma: | how can i retune my channels? I think they are off a bit |
[22:07:00] | to3cutt3r: | I don't understand the significance of the ISO option in MythDVD .19 |
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[22:08:00] | sphing: | to3cutt3r: its an iso |
[22:08:00] | xris: | I think both xine and mplayer can play a dvd iso |
[22:08:00] | sphing: | iso's are copies of the dvd.. |
[22:08:00] | to3cutt3r: | yeah, I get that. |
[22:08:00] | sphing: | so no, mythtv cant play it |
[22:09:00] | to3cutt3r: | what can I do with it in myth? |
[22:09:00] | to3cutt3r: | is it meant to be used outside of myth? |
[22:09:00] | sphing: | mythvideo |
[22:09:00] | sphing: | no, the internal myth player cant play it |
[22:09:00] | chuckyp: | Okay is anyone having problems with zap2it? Right now if I run mythfilldatabase its locking on day 8. Like freezing hte computer etc... no other terminals no ssh etc... |
[22:09:00] | chuckyp: | on or after day 8 |
[22:09:00] | to3cutt3r: | ok. what can? do I have to mount it first? |
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[22:10:00] | sphing: | to3cutt3r: search google |
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[22:10:00] | to3cutt3r: | I have... what do you suggest I search for? |
[22:11:00] | sphing: | are you kidding |
[22:11:00] | sphing: | "how to play an iso" |
[22:11:00] | sphing: | for starters |
[22:11:00] | to3cutt3r: | I know how to mount iso's burn them to discs etc. but none of that seems apropos to myth |
[22:12:00] | chuckyp: | to3cutt3r, What are you trying to do now? |
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[22:12:00] | to3cutt3r: | I'm trying to figure out the significance of being able to rip to an iso file in myth |
[22:13:00] | chuckyp: | to3cutt3r, rip from dvd to iso or did they add something ? |
[22:14:00] | to3cutt3r: | v.19 can rip to an iso file. I assume all menu structure is maintained (awesome), but how to play it back besides burning it or mounting it. |
[22:15:00] | sphing: | to3cutt3r: whats wrong with mounting it? |
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[22:16:00] | omega_: | Hi. |
[22:16:00] | to3cutt3r: | nothing. I just wondered if Myth had some built in mechanism for mounting/playing that I didn't know about. |
[22:16:00] | sphing: | myth cannot... you can setup mythvideo which will launch an external app to play video files |
[22:16:00] | chuckyp: | to3cutt3r, I think it would be put in there to burn a copy of a dvd but who knows why they did it. |
[22:17:00] | mortal5: | hey folks, I have a pvr 250, and I was wondering, if I connect an svideo F-F cable from my graphics card, to my pvr250 card, can it capture the output of my graphics card? |
[22:17:00] | sphing: | ripping to an iso is really cool, you can have mythvideo launch a script that will then automount it for you and play it |
[22:17:00] | to3cutt3r: | right. I'm just trying to figure why it's in there. |
[22:17:00] | omega_: | I'm wondering why my Philips Matchline doesn't display anything when I connect the VGA in to the VGA out of my Geforce 2 MX 440. |
[22:18:00] | to3cutt3r: | sphing: I wrote a script to this, and then stopped to find out if there was allready something in myth I didn't know about. |
[22:18:00] | omega_: | back in a sec. |
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[22:18:00] | sphing: | to3cutt3r: no there isnt, that is in 18.1 |
[22:18:00] | sphing: | i havent jumped to 19 yet |
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[22:19:00] | to3cutt3r: | not really a script. It doesn't receive any variables from myth, but it works. |
[22:20:00] | to3cutt3r: | ok. thanks for the info |
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[22:20:00] | sphing: | to3cutt3r: why not make a script that takes variables |
[22:20:00] | mortal5: | anyone know if you can capture s-video with a pvr card? |
[22:20:00] | sphing: | checks the filename, if its an iso, mount it and launch mplayer or xine to it, otherwise just launch mplayer |
[22:21:00] | sphing: | mortal5: pvr cards do have s-video captures if thats what you're asking |
[22:22:00] | mortal5: | sphing, do you know anywhere i can find docu on how to capture s-video? |
[22:22:00] | to3cutt3r: | On an side note, I just ripped my 201 movie, surpassing the 1 terabyte mark! |
[22:23:00] | sphing: | mortal5: just switch the input on your card |
[22:23:00] | sphing: | i dont even know what card you have |
[22:24:00] | sphing: | to3cutt3r: how long that take? |
[22:24:00] | mortal5: | sphing, sorry, i have a pvr-250 |
[22:24:00] | sphing: | ivtvlctl i think is the program |
[22:24:00] | sphing: | to switch which input you record from, is this like a temporary thing, or you want myth to permanently use it |
[22:25:00] | mortal5: | sphing, I just want to be able to cat it to a file |
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[22:25:00] | mortal5: | for the time being |
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[22:25:00] | sphing: | ivtvctl i think... something along those lines |
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[22:26:00] | mortal5: | I'm looking at it, but I don't see an option to switch to s-video input |
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[22:27:00] | [Elvis]: | good evening people |
[22:27:00] | sphing: | mortal5: it should have an option to switch inputs... guess which number the svideo is |
[22:27:00] | sphing: | i dont remember |
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[22:28:00] | mortal5: | has anyone here ever captured s-video with a pvr? |
[22:29:00] | chuckyp: | mortal5, you are using ivtv drivers you can use ivtv-ctl I beleive to select the input |
[22:29:00] | chuckyp: | mortal5, You could also add a video source in myth and then add it to the svideo input |
[22:30:00] | [Elvis]: | guys, I bought a nvidia 6200 td 256 mb today......but when I opened the box to my surprise there was a composite tv-out...should I go back with it and get a s-video one or accept it? |
[22:31:00] | xris: | [Elvis]: svideo isn't THAT much better than composite... it's up to you |
[22:31:00] | [Elvis]: | do you guys think I'll notice the difference? |
[22:32:00] | xris: | probably not.. depends on your tv |
[22:33:00] | mortal5: | thx guys, bbl |
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[22:33:00] | dev-: | composite or coax? |
[22:33:00] | dev-: | composite is better than svideo no |
[22:33:00] | dev-: | rgb |
[22:34:00] | dasOp: | composite is regular old tv |
[22:34:00] | dasOp: | its what you get from the wallsocket |
[22:34:00] | dasOp: | perhaps you mean component? |
[22:34:00] | [Elvis]: | ? |
[22:34:00] | dev-: | oh haha |
[22:35:00] | dev-: | yeah component, woops. |
[22:35:00] | [Elvis]: | a yellow tulip style connector = composite right? |
[22:35:00] | xris: | dasOp: no, composite is an rca-style connector (usually yellow). |
[22:35:00] | xris: | wall-style plug is RF |
[22:35:00] | xris: | svideo is slightly better than composite |
[22:35:00] | dev-: | my bad im sorry |
[22:35:00] | dev-: | i got confused. |
[22:35:00] | dasOp: | xris: plug yeah |
[22:35:00] | [Elvis]: | it's weird cuz the site says it's a high quality tv-out |
[22:35:00] | dasOp: | xris: but its the same kind of stream |
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[22:35:00] | naetrick: | How do I record a program in MythTV manually? I press 'R' on a program, but it doesn't record, it says "Not Recording" |
[22:36:00] | kormoc: | [Elvis], that's more about the tv encoder chip |
[22:36:00] | dasOp: | depending on the tv, you wont notice that much of a difference though |
[22:36:00] | toma: | how can i change the tuning of the channels? |
[22:36:00] | xris: | toma: what do you mean? |
[22:36:00] | [Elvis]: | this is the one I bought: http://nl.asus.com/products4.aspx?l1=2&l2 . . . ;modelmenu=1 |
[22:36:00] | xris: | [Elvis]: how big is your tv, and what kind of tv is it? |
[22:37:00] | kormoc: | [Elvis], yeah, I was looking at that one, but went with the MSI, it's a nicer card imho. |
[22:37:00] | toma: | xris: the channels seem to be slightly off channel, i want to make small changes |
[22:37:00] | xris: | toma: there's a channel editor in mythtv-setup and in mythweb |
[22:37:00] | [Elvis]: | xris I don't wanna make it depend on tv..just want best quality |
[22:38:00] | [Elvis]: | hmm kormoc you mean the msi 6200 ? |
[22:38:00] | dasOp: | then you want a component connection, also known as rgb |
[22:38:00] | m1k3: | i dunno, to me svideo looks consistently better |
[22:38:00] | kormoc: | [Elvis], yup |
[22:38:00] | tobo: | i keep getting these rebuffering messages from mythfrontend with myth 0.19. cpu at 55 with backend and frontend running. Most of the entries found while googling were removed. Anyone know what this is about? |
[22:38:00] | dasOp: | svideo is better |
[22:38:00] | toma: | xris: the setup one, just gives me options to delete settings, nothing more, the web is not real easy to tune a channel |
[22:38:00] | dasOp: | composite is the format used that's modulated with an rf carrier |
[22:38:00] | kormoc: | [Elvis], http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814127203 |
[22:38:00] | m1k3: | with composite, there's always this faint "swimmy" look to everything |
[22:38:00] | dasOp: | svideo separates brightness and colour |
[22:39:00] | [Elvis]: | I'll think I go back and swap it then.. |
[22:39:00] | chuckyp: | Anyone out there having problems with zap2it data direct for us listings? For some reason mythfilldatabase is locking my pc on or after day 8. |
[22:39:00] | dasOp: | you want svideo or component |
[22:39:00] | kormoc: | dasOp, actually, isn't it coax that's moduladed by a rf converter |
[22:39:00] | [Elvis]: | don't wanna pay money for a card without s-video....weird think is on the box it said it had s-video |
[22:39:00] | xris: | dasOp: all of those wires are coax. |
[22:39:00] | kormoc: | [Elvis], nope, the box just says tvout :) |
[22:40:00] | kormoc: | [Elvis], the msi one also has component as well as svideo :) |
[22:40:00] | ** xris likes his MSI with component.. even if the cables are bright green ** | |
[22:40:00] | [Elvis]: | kormoc the manual says svideo |
[22:40:00] | [Elvis]: | :( |
[22:40:00] | tobo: | anyone know what does rebuffering messages are about? |
[22:40:00] | dasOp: | kormoc: coax is a carrier. composite is a video format. when sent to your house, it's modulated by an rf signal to get a channel position |
[22:40:00] | [Elvis]: | I'll think I'll go for the MSI GeForce NX6200AX-TD 256MB LF AGP then |
[22:41:00] | m1k3: | yeah – the signal on a particular frequency is a composite video signal tho |
[22:41:00] | xris: | dasOp: coax refers to the physical wires... as in one wire wrapped around another... all video wires we've mentioned are coax. |
[22:41:00] | toma: | can i go back to 0.18.1 without problem? |
[22:41:00] | xris: | toma: probably not |
[22:41:00] | kormoc: | well, here's my question then |
[22:41:00] | toma: | grr |
[22:41:00] | xris: | that's why the upgrade note says "back up your database!" |
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[22:42:00] | toma: | yeah, that is why i forgot |
[22:42:00] | kormoc: | to go from the yellow plug to a tv, I need a rf modulator. if it's already modulated, why need the second converter? |
[22:42:00] | dasOp: | xris: what's the actual discussion about? feels like we've lost track |
[22:42:00] | xris: | dasOp: yeah, totally lost track. |
[22:42:00] | xris: | Beirdo could explain the technicalities of the signal differences if he was here.. but he's likely still walking home. |
[22:42:00] | dasOp: | I was just claiming component > svideo > composite |
[22:42:00] | xris: | I think [Elvis] is going to solve his problem by just getting another card |
[22:43:00] | xris: | dasOp: you left off the > rf at the end |
[22:43:00] | [Elvis]: | xris...I'll think I'll go back and swap it for the msi |
[22:43:00] | [Elvis]: | which has s-video |
[22:43:00] | kormoc: | cause the tv only takes coax cable lines and the ps only outputs composite. |
[22:43:00] | xris: | [Elvis]: good enough. |
[22:43:00] | ** kormoc would wonder why tv's don't take composite then, if they are same/similar ** | |
[22:43:00] | dasOp: | xris: yeah, you're not likely to have an rf modulated signal coming out of your vid card |
[22:43:00] | [Elvis]: | and still s-video = better...so why not swap it.. |
[22:44:00] | xris: | dasOp: correct. but in the comparison of things like analog cable, it should ve there |
[22:44:00] | xris: | [Elvis]: maybe you don't want to wait another week to get the video card. |
[22:44:00] | ** kormoc scratches his head. ** | |
[22:44:00] | [Elvis]: | xris what do you mean ? |
[22:44:00] | kormoc: | dasOp, if the vid card doesn't output RF then, how does it output composite if they are the same? |
[22:44:00] | xris: | [Elvis]: you have the no-svideo one already, right? buying from newegg would be a week of waiting. |
[22:44:00] | ** kormoc is uber confused. ** | |
[22:45:00] | xris: | kormoc: they'r enot the same. |
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[22:45:00] | [Elvis]: | no, I bought it in a shop so I can go and swap it tomorrow |
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[22:45:00] | xris: | the signal type in the RF is similar to composite.. but the composite wire has more bandwidth so a better signal. |
[22:45:00] | kormoc: | <dasOp> composite is the format used that's modulated with an rf carrier |
[22:45:00] | xris: | think 2 wires (rf) holding 99 channels vs 2 wires holding a single channel |
[22:45:00] | [Elvis]: | I was just strangely surprised when I saw it had composite...since in the manual it said s-video...so I was expecting s-video...kinda disappointed |
[22:45:00] | kormoc: | ooh |
[22:45:00] | dasOp: | composite is a video format |
[22:46:00] | kormoc: | so then, the thing I don't get is |
[22:46:00] | dasOp: | to send it from the wall to a regular tv, its combined with sound and then modulated with an rf carrier |
[22:46:00] | kormoc: | why require the second modulator to view it on the tv? |
[22:46:00] | dasOp: | the rf carrier being used to put it on a channel position |
[22:46:00] | chuckyp: | Anyone out there having problems with zap2it data direct for us listings? For some reason mythfilldatabase is locking my pc on or after day 8. |
[22:46:00] | Beirdo: | YAY |
[22:46:00] | Beirdo: | DSL :) |
[22:46:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, yay! |
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[22:46:00] | xris: | chuckyp: you've asked that like a dozen times... obviously not. |
[22:46:00] | dasOp: | but sending from a gfx card, you dont need to combine with sound nor modulate it to a channel position |
[22:46:00] | chuckyp: | xris, I'm just making sure because i'm having a hell of a time with it. |
[22:47:00] | dasOp: | elvis: you sure it doesnt have a female svideo connector and a special composite adapter for it? |
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[22:47:00] | xris: | chuckyp: wipe all data in channel, program and related tables... repair table on all of them... then try again. |
[22:47:00] | dasOp: | thats quite common |
[22:48:00] | dasOp: | a regular svideo connector has 4 pins, vid card outputs tend to have 6, 2 of those being used for composite via the adapter cable that tends to be yellow somewhere |
[22:48:00] | kormoc: | dasOp, okay, my question is, my tv doesn't take component input, but takes standard cable input, why would they not have it if they were so similar? |
[22:48:00] | dasOp: | component isnt similar |
[22:49:00] | dasOp: | component is rgb separated |
[22:49:00] | kormoc: | dasOp, sorry, composite |
[22:49:00] | dasOp: | or some other format |
[22:49:00] | dasOp: | composite in? does it take scart? |
[22:49:00] | kormoc: | dasOp, all it takes is the standard cable coax from the wall |
[22:49:00] | dasOp: | composite is the most commonly used format sent by scart |
[22:49:00] | Beirdo: | I think it's time for an svn up :) |
[22:49:00] | dasOp: | just the coax connector and nothing else? |
[22:50:00] | kormoc: | dasOp, correct |
[22:50:00] | dasOp: | then I guess they just played cheap on it |
[22:50:00] | kormoc: | dasOp, and it's a 2005 panasonic 21 inch. |
[22:50:00] | dasOp: | they sell tv's without atleast scart in this day? |
[22:50:00] | kormoc: | evendently |
[22:51:00] | dasOp: | kormoc: perhaps I'm misunderstanding something, but are you somehow using mythtv on that one? |
[22:51:00] | ** dasOp doesnt claim to be all knowing :P ** | |
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[22:51:00] | kormoc: | dasOp, going to be, aye, via component to a rf modulator to the coax, aye |
[22:51:00] | xris: | kormoc: that's going to look like crap. heh |
[22:51:00] | kormoc: | just seems stupid to rf modulate a signal that's already rf. |
[22:51:00] | dasOp: | its not |
[22:52:00] | kormoc: | gah |
[22:52:00] | dasOp: | a composite output from a vid card isn't rf modulated |
[22:52:00] | xris: | analog cable -> encoder -> video card -> rf adapter |
[22:52:00] | kormoc: | replace component with coposite. |
[22:52:00] | dasOp: | cause it doesnt need to |
[22:52:00] | kormoc: | xris, so I'll bump up the bitrate :P |
[22:52:00] | chuckyp: | xris, I'm using a fresh install everytime. I'm using knoppmyth so its hanging at the point where it initially fills the db for the first time. |
[22:52:00] | xris: | dasOp: that's why he said he'd use an rf modulator |
[22:53:00] | xris: | chuckyp: datadirect? |
[22:53:00] | chuckyp: | xris, I'm tyring a different nic now but I doubt thats the problem. I've tried a different hd etc.. |
[22:53:00] | dasOp: | yeah. see the line above regarding 'seems stupid' |
[22:53:00] | chuckyp: | xris, yes datadirec |
[22:53:00] | xris: | chuckyp: should upgrade to .19 |
[22:53:00] | dasOp: | thats what I elaborated on |
[22:53:00] | kormoc: | dasOp, but then here's the thing I don't get |
[22:53:00] | kormoc: | <dasOp> composite is the format used that's modulated with an rf carrier |
[22:53:00] | dasOp: | that's ambiguous |
[22:53:00] | kormoc: | what's that mean then? |
[22:54:00] | chuckyp: | xris, What'd they change in .19 as far as the datadirect goes? |
[22:54:00] | dasOp: | composite is a format. to send it as a channel, its merged with audio and modulated with an rf carrier |
[22:54:00] | dasOp: | sorry for adding to the confusion |
[22:54:00] | xris: | chuckyp: nothing that would directly help you... but lots of bug fixes in general |
[22:54:00] | [Elvis]: | hmm how do I find out what mode my mb supports of agp ? :P |
[22:54:00] | kormoc: | [Elvis], look it up in the manual? :P |
[22:54:00] | xris: | [Elvis]: you mean speed? what kormoc said. |
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[22:55:00] | chuckyp: | xris, the wierd part is i've installed on this hardware previously. With the exception of the nic, so now I through the old nic back in just to make sure its not my hardware. If this doesn't work datadirect has a problem with my listing. |
[22:55:00] | xris: | chuckyp: yeah. dd has been freaking out lately with people downloading too many times, too.. though they've stopped blocking things for now. |
[22:55:00] | dasOp: | Elvis: you're absolutely correct, that card doesnt have svideo (just checked it) |
[22:56:00] | xris: | w00t. 64bit mythtv here I come. well, when I get home. |
[22:56:00] | [Elvis]: | well yeah dasOp that's what I noticed when I opened the box |
[22:56:00] | [Elvis]: | :P |
[22:57:00] | [Elvis]: | and like I said..it disappointed me quite a bit |
[22:57:00] | dasOp: | yeah |
[22:57:00] | dasOp: | lesson = see specs, not marketing |
[22:57:00] | [Elvis]: | yeah |
[22:57:00] | [Elvis]: | but in the manual it said s-video :( |
[22:58:00] | dasOp: | oh |
[22:58:00] | [Elvis]: | so they kinda f*cked me |
[22:58:00] | Beirdo: | time to compile on athlon and amd64 simultaneously :) |
[22:58:00] | xris: | heh |
[22:58:00] | [Elvis]: | I should have looked it up on the internet...but I just bought it on the fly...wasn't planning on buying one today |
[22:58:00] | xris: | Beirdo: I can't wait to try nuvexport in 64 bit |
[22:59:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
[22:59:00] | Beirdo: | it's not much better unless ffmpeg/trancode support it |
[22:59:00] | dasOp: | manual is usually for a whole range of related products, atleast with asus stuff |
[22:59:00] | xris: | well, then I'll compile them in 64 bit mode. heh |
[22:59:00] | Beirdo: | hopefully it will work :) |
[22:59:00] | Beirdo: | transcode likely won't |
[22:59:00] | xris: | yea |
[23:00:00] | chuckyp: | xris, yeap officially datadirect problem. |
[23:00:00] | briand: | xris: i was going to ask you a question about the new mythweb, but i think i've answered it myself... |
[23:00:00] | chuckyp: | xris, old nic same result |
[23:00:00] | xris: | briand: ? |
[23:00:00] | xris: | chuckyp: lame |
[23:00:00] | ** dasOp was just wondering something.. isnt a composite -> rf modulator box about half as mucbh as that tv? ** | |
[23:00:00] | briand: | ..looking at the log, it said it had recorded and expired "XX Olympic Games ..." |
[23:00:00] | xris: | hard to believe that dd issue would cause your machine to freeze up. |
[23:00:00] | briand: | ..and I didn't record it. |
[23:00:00] | briand: | but then i figured it out |
[23:00:00] | Beirdo: | umm |
[23:00:00] | briand: | that's when I was watching LiveTV last night.. |
[23:00:00] | Beirdo: | a composite->RF modulator's like $10 |
[23:00:00] | chuckyp: | xris, I don't know but it is. |
[23:00:00] | dasOp: | oh |
[23:01:00] | naetrick: | Anyone know why pressing 'R' on a program won't start MythTV to record the program? |
[23:01:00] | Beirdo: | they SUCK |
[23:01:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
[23:01:00] | dasOp: | havent used one since the spectrum :P |
[23:01:00] | xris: | chuckyp: could be bad xml... |
[23:01:00] | briand: | anyway.. I now have MythTV 0.19 up and running!! :) |
[23:01:00] | dasOp: | yeah, the modulation/demodulation will add even more crap to the signal |
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[23:01:00] | chuckyp: | xris, I don't know the only way to know for sure is to have someone else try whiping there channel data and re running it. But even then it may only be for my specific area. |
[23:02:00] | briand: | only remaining problem is with lirc — and i think i'm just going to delete it and re-install it.... |
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[23:03:00] | chuckyp: | xris, Do you know if I can use xmltv to download listings in my area? |
[23:03:00] | chuckyp: | xris, in us err.. |
[23:03:00] | xris: | chuckyp: xmltv uses dd |
[23:03:00] | [Elvis]: | I hope I don't have a agp 1x or pro motherboard |
[23:03:00] | chuckyp: | xris, I thouhg you had to specify one or the other. |
[23:03:00] | [Elvis]: | or I'll blow it up insterting a new card |
[23:03:00] | [Elvis]: | :P |
[23:03:00] | xris: | [Elvis]: what proc? |
[23:04:00] | [Elvis]: | pentium III |
[23:04:00] | xris: | chuckyp: xmltv removed the tv_grab_na downloader (north america) and replaced it with tv_grab_na_dd |
[23:04:00] | [Elvis]: | gonna read motherboard user manual now :P |
[23:04:00] | xris: | myth doesn't use it because it can do dd stuff internally |
[23:04:00] | to3cutt3r: | ripping to an iso, mounting it and playing it using xine doesn't work very well. |
[23:04:00] | xris: | [Elvis]: that may be a problem |
[23:04:00] | [Elvis]: | yeah |
[23:04:00] | [Elvis]: | voltage changed |
[23:04:00] | to3cutt3r: | seems to be too cpu intensive... |
[23:04:00] | [Elvis]: | so I hope I have a 2x motherboard |
[23:04:00] | [Elvis]: | I suspect it to be atleast |
[23:05:00] | xris: | to3cutt3r: don't mount. just play the iso |
[23:05:00] | to3cutt3r: | using what player? |
[23:05:00] | xris: | xine or mplayer |
[23:05:00] | dasOp: | an agp8x card wont fit in a 2x slot, will it? |
[23:05:00] | xris: | I think it's something like: xine dvd://foo.iso |
[23:05:00] | kormoc: | dasOp, it can I beleive |
[23:05:00] | to3cutt3r: | I didn't think either could play an iso.... |
[23:05:00] | kormoc: | http://www.ertyu.org/~steven_nikkel/agpcompatibility.html |
[23:06:00] | kormoc: | [Elvis], if you look, 1x and 2x are the same, you want a 4x |
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[23:07:00] | [Elvis]: | hmm the manual says : comes with an accelerated graphics port slot that supports AGP cards for high performance, component level interconnected targeted at 3D graphical applications supporting 133Mhz 4x mode |
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[23:07:00] | [Elvis]: | kinda strange since it's like a 5 year old mb |
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[23:07:00] | kormoc: | [Elvis], not really, 4x wasn't old, but wasn't that new back end |
[23:07:00] | kormoc: | *then |
[23:07:00] | to3cutt3r: | xris: thanks! seems to be wroking... |
[23:08:00] | xris: | :) |
[23:08:00] | to3cutt3r: | xine never ceases to amaze me. |
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[23:08:00] | [Elvis]: | that's sweet..so at least I don't have to worry about blowing it up |
[23:08:00] | [Elvis]: | :p |
[23:08:00] | quitte: | hi. im having trouble getting the backend to record sound from my bttv. the asla bttv sound modules doest even create any devices |
[23:09:00] | xris: | quitte: most bttv cards require a patch cable from the tuner card to the soundcard |
[23:09:00] | quitte: | xris: tried that,too – doesnt work |
[23:10:00] | xris: | quitte: doesn't work how? otherwise, you need the btaudio kernel module |
[23:10:00] | quitte: | xris: i tried all kinds of mixer settings and setting audio device to /dev/dsp and ALSA:default. deifferent record devices – it just doesnt work. |
[23:11:00] | xris: | quitte: did you use a patch cable? |
[23:11:00] | quitte: | yes |
[23:11:00] | xris: | maybe the card is busted? |
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[23:11:00] | quitte: | xris: i dont think so. i can control tv volume with line1 mixer |
[23:12:00] | kormoc: | quitte, did you setup the capture volumes correctly? |
[23:12:00] | naetrick: | anyone know where I can find a mythtv 0.19 debian package |
[23:12:00] | quitte: | kormoc: tried all kinds of mixer settings |
[23:12:00] | xris: | quitte: thought you said it wasn't working. what exactly isn't working? |
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[23:13:00] | chuckyp: | xris, gotcha |
[23:13:00] | kormoc: | quitte, yes, but that doesn't answer my question. Did you switch the mixer to the capture mode? |
[23:13:00] | to3cutt3r: | We can rip DVD's with menus now! I love it1 |
[23:13:00] | quitte: | xris it doesntrecord. sound istoo early when watching live tv as it is just played |
[23:13:00] | quitte: | kormoc: yes. red R logo on line1 |
[23:13:00] | chuckyp: | xris, My last attempt at getting this to work. I'm using i686 mythtv packages. I guess before I was using i586 packages but I don't see how that would cause this problem. |
[23:13:00] | kormoc: | quitte, that's not the capture mode... |
[23:13:00] | xris: | quitte: what kormoc said |
[23:13:00] | quitte: | kormoc: ah. what is the capture mode? |
[23:14:00] | xris: | quitte: tells the OS that it should record from that input |
[23:14:00] | kormoc: | quitte, in alsamixer, press f4 |
[23:14:00] | xris: | as opposed to just playing the sound through passthrough |
[23:14:00] | naetrick: | How do I record a program in MythTV manually? I press 'R' on a program, but it doesn't record, it says "Not Recording" |
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[23:14:00] | TUplink: | what is a good USB or PCMCIA Tuner for myht? |
[23:15:00] | xris: | TUplink: only usb one that works in linux is the plextor |
[23:15:00] | chuckyp: | xris, When this doesn't work any ideas for a distro to use. The boxes only purpose is going to be mythbackend and frontend. |
[23:15:00] | [Elvis]: | Support of AGP 2.0, particularly of data transfer mode 4x AGP |
[23:15:00] | kormoc: | quitte, http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-7.html#ss7.2 <-- it's covered there |
[23:15:00] | [Elvis]: | 2.0 = agp4x? |
[23:15:00] | TUplink: | any PCMCIA ones? |
[23:15:00] | dtm: | xris: not true at all. the WinTV USB2 works awesomely. |
[23:15:00] | xris: | chuckyp: I personally prefer fedora |
[23:15:00] | kormoc: | [Elvis], apg version 2, speed 4x, so yes, you have a 4x slot |
[23:15:00] | xris: | dtm: really? didn't know that. that's cool |
[23:16:00] | dtm: | xris: the driver is state of the art |
[23:16:00] | dtm: | xris: and it works on usb 1.1 as well |
[23:16:00] | chuckyp: | xris, Yeah I have fc4 laying around. |
[23:16:00] | dtm: | and can go up to about 20 Mbps |
[23:16:00] | quitte: | kormoc: ok. will havea closer looko |
[23:16:00] | chuckyp: | xris, did you install mythtv via source? Or did you use the atrpms packages? |
[23:16:00] | xris: | chuckyp: just follow jarod's guide.. pretty straightforward |
[23:16:00] | xris: | I use my own packages. |
[23:17:00] | Beirdo: | I use svn |
[23:17:00] | xris: | based on atrpms ones, but cleaned up substantially and made to work with svn. |
[23:17:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
[23:17:00] | briand: | xris: what's the easiest way (given my borked apt-get) to remove lirc 0.7.1 (and, i don't mind if 0.8.0 [installed via yum] goes away, too.. i can reinstall it afterwards) ? |
[23:17:00] | chuckyp: | xris, Well the reason i'm asking is he uses atrpms but I guess they just updated to .19 so i'll give it a try. |
[23:17:00] | xris: | atrpms packages are good, but I'll warn you to only install things from atrpms that you absolutely need... disable the repository for other stuff. |
[23:17:00] | [Elvis]: | so kormoc you're using the 6200 with xvmc? does it do a good job? |
[23:18:00] | kormoc: | [Elvis], I just ordered the 6200, I'm using a 5200 right now and it's grand, aye |
[23:18:00] | naetrick: | Can anyone "read" me here? |
[23:18:00] | chuckyp: | xris, just really don't want gnome. and I don't understand why his guide has you switch from gnome to kde and back to gnome? Doesn't make any sense |
[23:18:00] | kormoc: | naetrick, nope. |
[23:19:00] | naetrick: | kormoc: Ok, thanks. Wasn't sure... no one was even responding... |
[23:19:00] | kormoc: | chuckyp, huh? |
[23:19:00] | kormoc: | naetrick, likely cause none of us know your problem. |
[23:19:00] | chuckyp: | kormoc, Jarods mythtv guide |
[23:19:00] | kormoc: | chuckyp, I know that, but where does it have you switch to kde? |
[23:19:00] | xris: | chuckyp: no clue. gnome works fine with myth. as does kde.. and you can set that up however you want. I use blackbox, though I may switch back to plain old gnome for my next install just because it's easier to deal with. or maybe fluxbox |
[23:19:00] | naetrick: | Could it be because I'm using v0.18.1? I doubt that, however |
[23:19:00] | k-man: | so does marillat still work on mythtv debs? |
[23:20:00] | Chutt: | k-man, no, he didn't just update things to 0.19 |
[23:20:00] | k-man: | i seem to recall he reading that he didn't but it looks as though new versions are coming through |
[23:20:00] | chuckyp: | xris, I'll have to install fedora and mess with getting gnome to auto login and launch mythtv |
[23:20:00] | xris: | chuckyp: um, that's like 2 commands. |
[23:20:00] | k-man: | Chutt, so he did the update? |
[23:20:00] | xris: | in a nice gui |
[23:20:00] | k-man: | Chutt, not someone else? |
[23:20:00] | chuckyp: | xris, gotcha I'll be doing that. |
[23:20:00] | Chutt: | um, yes? |
[23:21:00] | Chutt: | i think you're confusing mdz and marillat. |
[23:21:00] | naetrick: | Here's what I get whenever I press 'R' in the terminal for mythbackend: "2006-02–16 18:20:47.218 Reschedule requested for id 70. |
[23:21:00] | naetrick: | 2006-02–16 18:20:47.366 Scheduled 0 items in 0.1 = 0.14 match + 0.01 place |
[23:21:00] | kormoc: | chuckyp, I would assume he has you installing QT, as that is required, but QT is not kde. |
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[23:21:00] | k-man: | chutt, oh... maybe |
[23:21:00] | [Elvis]: | what's the reason you're changing to 6200 kormoc? |
[23:21:00] | k-man: | chutt, thanks |
[23:22:00] | kormoc: | [Elvis], my new mythbox is a shuttle case with only one pci slot, which is taken up by the capture card, so my pci 5200 can't fit in it. |
[23:23:00] | kormoc: | chuckyp, I see the part you were looking up, he has you switch cause it's the recommended desktop, but there's a note under it that gnome is perfectly acceptable and it's a optional step |
[23:23:00] | [Elvis]: | ah but won't you have the same problem with the 6200? |
[23:23:00] | kormoc: | [Elvis], no? I'm getting a agp 6200, so it will go in the agp slot |
[23:24:00] | [Elvis]: | ah k |
[23:24:00] | [Elvis]: | :P |
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[23:24:00] | [Elvis]: | hmm you know what TD256 LF for stands on the msi6200ax kormoc ? |
[23:25:00] | kormoc: | [Elvis], just the model number, 256 would be ram size, lf might be for low formfactor, but could be anything or nothing. |
[23:27:00] | [Elvis]: | I hope they will except my swap ... |
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[23:31:00] | quitte: | what device name should i set fo an alsa mixer? |
[23:31:00] | xris: | [Elvis]: you probably don't actually... |
[23:31:00] | xris: | depending on what their normal behavior is, you may not want to be the exception. |
[23:32:00] | [Elvis]: | :P |
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[23:35:00] | quitte: | do i set the mixer to ALSA:default,too? |
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[23:35:00] | JimBowen: | hello, I am trying to get mythtv working with my DVB-T card. It works fine in kaffeine, but myth gives the error 2006-02–16 23:31:30.704 DVB#0 ERROR – Could not find dvb tuning parameters for mplex 0. Any idea what I might be doing wrong? |
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[23:36:00] | JimBowen: | myth managed to scan a list of channels from the card |
[23:36:00] | JimBowen: | and add them to the database |
[23:36:00] | JimBowen: | but I can't watch TV |
[23:37:00] | JimBowen: | the client gives me a message box saying I should have a channel lock ny now |
[23:38:00] | Juski: | JimBowen: bullseye! |
[23:38:00] | JimBowen: | Juski: shutup :P |
[23:38:00] | Juski: | lol |
[23:38:00] | Juski: | you picked the nick ;-) |
[23:38:00] | Juski: | or maybe that's yer real name (oops) |
[23:38:00] | JimBowen: | Lol. |
[23:39:00] | Juski: | common problem with DVB btw, that |
[23:39:00] | Beirdo: | upgrade complete |
[23:39:00] | JimBowen: | oh? |
[23:39:00] | JimBowen: | Easy fix? :) |
[23:39:00] | Led-Hed: | I have 4 pvr-250's, but if I'm watching Live/Buffered TV and there is a show that is scheduled to record, it asks me if I want to continue watching and cancel the recording or tune to the channel of the scheduled recording. Isn't myth capable of moving the recording to a tunner that isnt in use? |
[23:39:00] | briand: | 'evenin, Juski :) |
[23:39:00] | briand: | Led-Hed: what version? |
[23:39:00] | Led-Hed: | 0.18.1 |
[23:40:00] | Juski: | JimBowen: yup. is your initial channel one that is currently not broadcasting by any chance? or is the initial channel not set to a valid channel? |
[23:40:00] | Led-Hed: | wow, 0.19 is out |
[23:40:00] | Juski: | try using browse mode |
[23:40:00] | briand: | Led-Hed: ...'cuz in 0.19, you can click a setting that'll do LiveTV on your last tuner, rather than your first, to avoid such conflicts |
[23:40:00] | Juski: | briand: evenin |
[23:41:00] | JimBowen: | Juski: The initial channel is _supposed_ to be BBC1, which is always broadcasting, but it seems to reset to BBC O. Unless channel names are always truncated to five characters, that seems strange to me. |
[23:41:00] | Led-Hed: | briand: so Myth isn't capable of moving the recording to a tunner that isnt in use? |
[23:41:00] | Juski: | JimBowen: BBC O? weird |
[23:42:00] | quitte: | ok then i guess ill have to go back to oss :(. the console output says something about disabling audio for notbeinig able to open the mixer |
[23:42:00] | m1k3: | q: i upgraded my backend, and the old capture card settings are still in my database from my old backend. what do i have to remove to clean them out? |
[23:42:00] | JimBowen: | Juski: And BBC TWO gets truncated to BBC T also :/ |
[23:42:00] | m1k3: | just the entries in capturecard and cardinput? |
[23:43:00] | Juski: | JimBowen: check the dtv_multiplex table to see if every mux has networkid & transportid set to values other than zero |
[23:43:00] | JimBowen: | Juski: Ok, will do. |
[23:44:00] | Juski: | I had the same problem when I was running SVN – it didn't seem to affect scheduled recording but did in livetv (I don't use livetv) |
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[23:44:00] | JimBowen: | Juski: Err, 0 rows. Nubed? |
[23:44:00] | briand: | Led-Hed: Myth decided on which tuner to use (based on your recording rules) long before you decided to watch LiveTV on it.. ;) |
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[23:45:00] | Led-Hed: | briand: so it isnt capable of switching on the fly? |
[23:45:00] | briand: | Led-Hed: if the schedule says it's going to use Encoder 1 at 9:00pm, then it's going to do it. |
[23:45:00] | Led-Hed: | thats kind of a downer |
[23:46:00] | briand: | Led-Hed: why not just upgrade to 0.19... then you can flip that config switch, and you'll only see that dialog if Myth wants to be using -all- of your encoders at a given time |
[23:46:00] | briand: | that's why it was changed for 0.19 |
[23:46:00] | dev-: | what about 'avoid conflicts between scheduled recordings and livetv' |
[23:46:00] | dev-: | thats always worked well for me |
[23:46:00] | briand: | dev-: is that in 0.18 as well? |
[23:46:00] | Led-Hed: | briand: I may. but I have 1 backend and 4 frontends. so upgrading may be a full weekends worth of work |
[23:46:00] | dev-: | yeah, been in myth for a while |
[23:47:00] | briand: | ah.. well, there ya go, then... i thought it was introduced after 0.18 was released |
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[23:47:00] | Led-Hed: | dev-: where can I find that setting? |
[23:47:00] | dev-: | setup->tvsettings->general |
[23:47:00] | briand: | damn it, damn it, damn it! |
[23:47:00] | briand: | lirc_dev: no version for "struct_module" found: kernel tainted. |
[23:47:00] | briand: | lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, at major 61 |
[23:47:00] | briand: | lirc_i2c: chip found @ 0x18 (Hauppauge IR) |
[23:47:00] | briand: | ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=Hauppauge IR, addr=18] |
[23:47:00] | briand: | lirc_dev: lirc_register_plugin: sample_rate: 10 |
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[23:47:00] | briand: | grr. |
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[23:48:00] | Led-Hed: | does it have to be set in each frontend? |
[23:48:00] | Jasper: | :p |
[23:48:00] | briand: | so, my remote -still- doesn't work. |
[23:48:00] | dev-: | no its a backend setting |
[23:48:00] | dev-: | can be set from any frontend |
[23:48:00] | Juski: | JimBowen:? mysql -u mythtv -p mythconverg -e "SELECT mplexid, transportid, networkid FROM dtv_multiplex;" |
[23:48:00] | m1k3: | briand, that looks right to me |
[23:48:00] | Led-Hed: | dev-: so it it under mythtv-setup? |
[23:48:00] | m1k3: | i mean, it looks like mine does when it works |
[23:48:00] | briand: | m1k3: 'kernel tainted' looks okay? |
[23:48:00] | dev-: | no... |
[23:48:00] | ** Led-Hed is confused. ** | |
[23:48:00] | m1k3: | sure – that's just because it's a "foreign" module |
[23:48:00] | dev-: | you set it from a frontend, but its saved globally... |
[23:49:00] | dev-: | k? |
[23:49:00] | Led-Hed: | ok |
[23:49:00] | Led-Hed: | thatnks |
[23:49:00] | Led-Hed: | thanks |
[23:49:00] | dev-: | np |
[23:49:00] | dev-: | im actually surprised its not enabled by default |
[23:49:00] | briand: | m1k3: hmm... well, lemme go check and see if it's working now, then. |
[23:49:00] | dev-: | sort of makes having multiple tuners worthless, imho |
[23:49:00] | scottder: | I'm doing my update Sunday...good day for MythTV box maintaince :) |
[23:49:00] | Juski: | JimBowen: if you're missing transportid & networkid from that table you can only get them from the dvbscan utility – not a channels.conf file it produces |
[23:50:00] | JimBowen: | Juski: using phpmyadmin. dtv_multiplex is empty. |
[23:50:00] | dev-: | scottder: yeah, you need to find an appropriately long maintenance window heh |
[23:50:00] | dev-: | mine was last night, upgrade went pretty well |
[23:50:00] | briand: | m1k3: nope.. no response to the remote. :( |
[23:50:00] | Juski: | JimBowen: if that table is empty, either it changed name since 0.18 or something went wrong with the scan |
[23:50:00] | scottder: | dev-: what distro? |
[23:50:00] | dev-: | just one small thing, since i dont grant admin privs to the mythtv user, the frontends were pissed that mythtv mysql user didnt have table lock privs |
[23:50:00] | dev-: | they're all gentoo |
[23:50:00] | m1k3: | briand, how are you testing |
[23:51:00] | Juski: | JimBowen: if it's empty cos something went wrong with the scan, then that'll be the cause of the problem ;-) |
[23:51:00] | briand: | m1k3: by pressing the 'down arrow' on my remote in the main Myth menu |
[23:51:00] | JimBowen: | Juski: Though mythfilldatabase just spent about half an hour chomping stuff making the program table 25MB, and I didn't see any net usage, so the scan must have worked.. |
[23:51:00] | m1k3: | is lircd running? |
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[23:51:00] | Juski: | JimBowen: mythfilldatabase inserts channel stuff into the DB & EPG info... it doesn't scan for channels |
[23:52:00] | dev-: | braind: try running irw on commandline as the user you're running mythtv as, then pound on the remote and see if anything happens |
[23:52:00] | dev-: | thats how i troubleshooted remote/lircd issues in the beginning |
[23:52:00] | JimBowen: | Juski: I have Perform EIT Scan selected |
[23:52:00] | briand: | m1k3: hmm.. no |
[23:52:00] | dev-: | briand: also doublecheck lircd in ps, that its opening up the right device |
[23:53:00] | Juski: | JimBowen: what you need to do : 1. stop mythbackend 2. run mythtv-setup 3. go into the channel editor & scan for channels. 4. look in a channels.conf from a dvb scan (linuxtv utils) to find initial tuning parameters |
[23:53:00] | JimBowen: | Juski: And when I find these parameters what should I do with them? |
[23:53:00] | pac1: | what is a prebuffering pause? |
[23:54:00] | dev-: | its a generic error message for stream throughput |
[23:54:00] | briand: | dev-: not listed in ps, either, even after `service lircd start` |
[23:54:00] | Juski: | JimBowen: you can try doing a full scan in mythtv-setup – it'll take a while but it might work |
[23:54:00] | dev-: | briand: thats a problem :D |
[23:54:00] | briand: | yeah. how to fix? |
[23:54:00] | pac1: | how about prebuffer wait timed out? |
[23:55:00] | Juski: | JimBowen: scanning for channels in mythtv-setup populates the dtv_multiplex table... it then finds the channels on each multiplex :-) |
[23:55:00] | dev-: | you need to figure out why its not starting, trying to open a device thats nonexistent is a common reason |
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[23:55:00] | briand: | root 4893 0.0 0.1 2772 860 ? Ss 18:55 0:00 /usr/sbin/lircd |
[23:56:00] | m1k3: | on my ubuntu box, it was trying to open /dev/lirc, but it really needed to open /dev/lirc0 |
[23:56:00] | dev-: | pac1: another generic message, neither of which helpful, really, best to use -v all and redirect to a flatfile that you can tail/vi later and see what sup |
[23:56:00] | briand: | ...from manually starting it, just now. |
[23:56:00] | m1k3: | that one took me a while to find cuz it would run until a client tried to use it then fail with the no device error |
[23:56:00] | dev-: | briand: that wont help, since it needs to open a device, its best to find out whats wring with the init script by reviewing it in your favorite editor |
[23:56:00] | briand: | dev-: which init script? |
[23:57:00] | Juski: | JimBowen: a good (if slightly out of date) guide for DVB channel setup can be found here: http://parker1.co.uk/mythtv_ubuntu.php |
[23:57:00] | dev-: | m1k3: nice.. similar thing on gentoo when it was upgraded, its /dev/lirc/0 instead of /dev/lirc0 which it used to be. |
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[23:57:00] | AngryElf: | hey all, my myth hard disc has filled up to 100% and now it won't let me delete any recordings from within mythfrontend......what to do about that???? |
[23:57:00] | dev-: | briand: usually /etc/init.d/lircd — thats what you're running when you say "service lircd start" |
[23:57:00] | dev-: | the lircd init script |
[23:57:00] | JimBowen: | Juski: mythtv-setup scanning is getting timeouts due to no signal, but I just checked and kaffeine still works fine |
[23:57:00] | dev-: | init scripts are what start things on unix |
[23:57:00] | pac1: | dev-, will do. I'm seeing a jerky picture in live tv with vertical lines and flashing |
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[23:57:00] | Juski: | JimBowen: go to the webpage I just typed – loads of hints there |
[23:58:00] | JimBowen: | Juski: Ok, thanks. |
[23:58:00] | pac1: | running myth version mythtv-0.19_pre8642 on gentoo. |
[23:58:00] | Juski: | I'm really having reservations about upgrading now |
[23:58:00] | dev-: | Juski: why? |
[23:58:00] | TUplink: | how come when i do a ./configure --enable-all on mythplugins i get Transcode support will not be included in MythDVD |
[23:58:00] | TUplink: | dose that requife the KDE DEVL ? |
[23:58:00] | Juski: | plenty of DVB related problems on the users list, and in here too |
[23:59:00] | dev-: | oh.. bummer |
[23:59:00] | Juski: | and a few issues I had with SVN were fixed but didn't make it into 0.19 |
[23:59:00] | dev-: | TUplink: it'd be a guess, but perhaps you dont have transcode installed |
[23:59:00] | TUplink: | what is it caled so i can install it |
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[23:59:00] | dev-: | lol. |
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[23:59:00] | TUplink: | is it transcode |
[23:59:00] | Juski: | TUplink: it's called transcode, quite unbelievably |
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