| Tuesday, January 17th, 2006, 00:01 UTC | ||
| [00:01:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: uh. |
| [00:01:00] | Cardoe: | So... |
| [00:01:00] | Cardoe: | no new ebuilds |
| [00:01:00] | Cardoe: | like I promised |
| [00:01:00] | kormoc: | ooh? |
| [00:01:00] | Cardoe: | girl wants me over again |
| [00:01:00] | Cardoe: | blame the game... |
| [00:01:00] | Cardoe: | not the man |
| [00:01:00] | Cardoe: | o:) |
| [00:01:00] | kormoc: | hehe |
| [00:01:00] | Cardoe: | I love college. |
| [00:01:00] | kormoc: | Enjoy yourself :) |
| [00:04:00] | kormoc: | hehe, yeah |
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| [00:14:00] | timolol: | good bye everyone and thank you |
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| [00:19:00] | EvilBob: | xris: I hate you back.....LOL |
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| [00:24:00] | Juski: | well that's it. seeds of doubt about a theme are now sown .. hmmmmmm. think I'll just let it fester |
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| [00:28:00] | Juski: | weeee there goes 160GB of stuff off a disk :) |
| [00:28:00] | Juski: | or not... jees this is taking ages |
| [00:29:00] | dtm: | Juski: what filesystem/ |
| [00:29:00] | dtm: | ? |
| [00:29:00] | Juski: | the one I don't talk about in here ;) |
| [00:29:00] | Juski: | finally! |
| [00:30:00] | kormoc: | so it's ntfs eh? |
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| [00:31:00] | Juski: | aye |
| [00:32:00] | Juski: | god I've just had to stop myself wiping out all my theme work.. I really can't take criticism as well as I thought. Gotta learn in this game I think |
| [00:32:00] | kormoc: | Juski, ooh? I think the theme looks good myself |
| [00:33:00] | Juski: | yes, well.. I was doubting it myself |
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| [00:33:00] | Juski: | fucking sick of looking at it, truth be told |
| [00:33:00] | Juski: | still – least it's no longer Monday here :) |
| [00:35:00] | Baylink: | Juski: where? |
| [00:35:00] | Juski: | UK |
| [00:35:00] | EricL: | How do I tell MythTV which card I want to be the primary for watching TV (since I just went from fully functional to completely non-functinal by adding the other card). |
| [00:35:00] | Baylink: | No, I meant your theme? Oh. Wasn't paying attention to which channel I was in. Soory. |
| [00:35:00] | EricL: | The second card slipped itself in as /dev/video0 and threw off all my settings. |
| [00:36:00] | Juski: | www.juski.co.uk.. and I ain't fishing for compliments by the way |
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| [00:36:00] | Juski: | EricL: is it a different type of tuner card? |
| [00:36:00] | doc_: | hello... |
| [00:37:00] | Juski: | not usually an issue if it's the same kind of card ;) |
| [00:37:00] | EricL: | Juski: Yep. The original one is a PVR-250 and the new one is a old vanilla bt878 compat of some kind that I had lying around. |
| [00:37:00] | Juski: | should be easy enough to fix that |
| [00:37:00] | defII: | Can someone point me in the right direction? I was doing a dd of an image and somehow screwed my partition table up it wont let me use fdisk reporting that the cylinders are set wrong? |
| [00:37:00] | EricL: | Juski: I can imagine, but I just didn't want to drop another $100 on a new PVR-250. |
| [00:38:00] | defII: | this isnt a myth question but maybe you guys can help |
| [00:38:00] | kormoc: | EricL, just load ivtv before bttv and it should work fine |
| [00:38:00] | doc_: | mmm.. erm... can i ask something ? :) |
| [00:38:00] | kormoc: | EricL, a pvr 150 is only $60 some and works quite nice |
| [00:38:00] | Juski: | EricL: no – I mean should be easy enough to fix within mythtv – that happenned to my DVB-T tuner when I rebooted after installing a pVR150 ;) |
| [00:38:00] | EricL: | kormoc: They both seem to load simultaneously (since ivtv takes so long to fully load). |
| [00:39:00] | Juski: | just stop mythbackend & re-run mythtv-setup & put the settings right.. should do the trick |
| [00:39:00] | EricL: | Juski: I have tried completely resetting everything and still to no avail. |
| [00:39:00] | doc_: | uh... did anyone got this message using alsa ? NVR: Cannot open DSP '/dev/dsp', exiting open: No such device |
| [00:39:00] | Juski: | so remove the cards from mythtv & put them back, taking care to get it right |
| [00:39:00] | kormoc: | EricL, actually, kernel modules are single treaded and loaded one at a time |
| [00:39:00] | EricL: | Juski: That's what I did. |
| [00:39:00] | Juski: | doc_: is alsa actually loaded? |
| [00:39:00] | doc_: | Juski: yep |
| [00:40:00] | doc_: | Juski: loaded and running... i'm using ubuntu |
| [00:40:00] | EricL: | kormoc: Hmm, that's weird. IVTV started loading first and then bttv took the /dev/video0. |
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| [00:41:00] | Juski: | doc_: only issue I had with ubuntu & alsa was that it didn't like the soundcard – luckily I had a spare the drivers work with |
| [00:41:00] | EricL: | It created /dev/video0 like it was supposed to (all the devices are there now I think) but the bttv is trying to play through Television and didn't create anything called Tuner0 like the PVR-250 card did. |
| [00:41:00] | doc_: | Juski: aha |
| [00:41:00] | doc_: | Juski: thanks :) |
| [00:41:00] | Juski: | doc_: maybe it's one for the #ubuntu channel.. not that they take any notice in there |
| [00:41:00] | kormoc: | EricL, are you using the tuner.ko from ivtv? |
| [00:41:00] | doc_: | right... |
| [00:42:00] | Juski: | doc_: the card I had bother with was some SB copy |
| [00:42:00] | Juski: | or was it ALS4000? something like that anyway |
| [00:42:00] | doc_: | Juski: i'm using a via (integrated on motherboard) |
| [00:43:00] | EricL: | kormoc: I was before, I am not sure if its loading properly now though. |
| [00:43:00] | Juski: | doc_: check it's loading the right module for the card.. and then check you can use it in other apps. I doubt it'll have anything to do with Mythtv |
| [00:43:00] | kormoc: | EricL, the ivtv tuner.ko tends not to work with bttv cards, they use the in kernel tuner.ko |
| [00:44:00] | doc_: | Juski: it looks like ... mythv & ubuntu != alsa :/ |
| [00:44:00] | Juski: | or some other program might be grabbing the sound device |
| [00:44:00] | doc_: | Juski: i'll try with oss drivers |
| [00:44:00] | kormoc: | ubuntu might not have compiled in the alsa support |
| [00:44:00] | EricL: | kormoc: So you're saying that the two cards I have probably won't work together in the same machine? |
| [00:44:00] | ** doc_ compiling ** | |
| [00:44:00] | Juski: | kormoc: wasn't any problem in my ubuntu box |
| [00:45:00] | kormoc: | EricL, the pvr 250 should work fine with the tuner.ko from the kernel tree, so you might want to make sure you are using that one |
| [00:45:00] | Juski: | so tired.. see yous tomorrow.. or whenever.. night y'all |
| [00:45:00] | Juski: | Zzzzzzzzz |
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| [00:47:00] | EricL: | kormoc: So using the tuner.ko from the kernel tree will create a tuner0 on the bttv card? |
| [00:47:00] | kormoc: | EricL, it should |
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| [00:48:00] | deadguppy: | hello ? |
| [00:48:00] | EricL: | But does that explain how come the other card (PVR-250) isn't working right now? |
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| [00:52:00] | doc_: | deadguppy: hi |
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| [00:54:00] | EricL: | It still seems to load first even when I move it to after the ivtv module. |
| [00:55:00] | kormoc: | maybe something else is loading it |
| [00:55:00] | EricL: | kormoc: It looks like btaudio is loading the bttv module. |
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| [00:55:00] | kormoc: | that would do it, aye |
| [00:56:00] | EricL: | But I don't even have that in my /etc/modules file, so something is acting funny. |
| [00:56:00] | kormoc: | have you ever wondered if your install was fubur? cause I would start wondering that if I was you |
| [00:58:00] | EricL: | I know my install is fubar. |
| [00:58:00] | EricL: | But it took so much hacking for me to get Myth to work once, I don't erally want ot go through it again if I can keep it working by just pulling out the second card. |
| [01:05:00] | stealth: | i reinstalled mysql from 5 to 4, and also reloaded mc.sql but when I run mythsetup I still get Table 'mythconverg.keybindings' doesn't exist |
| [01:05:00] | stealth: | and cant add a card |
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| [01:09:00] | stealth: | which program should make the settings and keybindings table? |
| [01:09:00] | kormoc: | myth does on first run |
| [01:09:00] | kormoc: | I would drop database mythconverg, redo the mc.sql inport, and then go from there |
| [01:09:00] | stealth: | ive done that three times already |
| [01:10:00] | stealth: | probably more |
| [01:10:00] | kormoc: | when you first run mythtv-setup, you'll see an error then |
| [01:10:00] | kormoc: | that error is what you need to fix |
| [01:10:00] | stealth: | yep |
| [01:10:00] | stealth: | so.. i need to make keybindings and settings table manually? |
| [01:10:00] | kormoc: | no... |
| [01:10:00] | kormoc: | you need to figure out why the table update isn't working right |
| [01:11:00] | kormoc: | because the update does more then just those tables |
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| [01:15:00] | stealth: | which program creates keybindings and settings table, myth-setup? all myth-setup says when I start it is that mythconverg.settings and mythconverg.keybindings dosent exist |
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| [01:16:00] | kormoc: | stealth, on the first run, on a new database inport, mythsetup will do so |
| [01:16:00] | kormoc: | stealth, on every run after the frist, it won't |
| [01:17:00] | stealth: | it dosent ever create them.. i drop the mythconverg, re import the mc.sql.. re run mythsetup .. same error |
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| [01:18:00] | kormoc: | stealth, that's odd |
| [01:19:00] | stealth: | meaning, im screwed eh |
| [01:22:00] | stealth: | seems mythsetup IS creating SOME tables.. i have like cardinput, and channel table yet no settings or keybindings |
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| [01:23:00] | kormoc: | stealth, and there's no error before the keybinding error? |
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| [01:30:00] | stealth: | kormoc, http://pastebin.com/509166 |
| [01:30:00] | brandon2: | can someone give me any suggestions on enabling the svideo out of an ati radeon 9250? |
| [01:31:00] | stealth: | brandon2, boot with it connected |
| [01:31:00] | brandon2: | ive tried that |
| [01:31:00] | brandon2: | nothing |
| [01:31:00] | stealth: | strange |
| [01:32:00] | brandon2: | yeah |
| [01:32:00] | stealth: | tv is also connected |
| [01:32:00] | stealth: | ? ;-D |
| [01:32:00] | brandon2: | yes, hehe |
| [01:32:00] | brandon2: | svid to component cord, component to tv |
| [01:32:00] | brandon2: | tv.. on |
| [01:33:00] | brandon2: | i might try reseating the card... |
| [01:35:00] | brandon2: | thnx |
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| [01:46:00] | stealth: | anyone know why my myth is broke? and more importantly how to fix it http://pastebin.com/509166 |
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| [01:49:00] | Agrajag-: | stealth: looks like your db is rooted and you should start from a fresh db |
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| [01:51:00] | stealth: | Agrajag-, ive done that many .. of many of many times reloading mc.sql |
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| [01:54:00] | deadguppy: | anyone know a good channel for DVD authoring ? |
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| [01:54:00] | Agrajag-: | stealth: well you're not doing it properly – in that case you just pasted the db had 16 tables already |
| [01:54:00] | Agrajag-: | deadguppy: dvdauthor |
| [01:55:00] | deadguppy: | uhm. |
| [01:55:00] | mstermind: | must go today 1 alienware laptop area51-m 5700 price $500 price includes shipping, wireless router and carry case, 1 alienware desktop area51 7500 price $550 including shipping, monitor, speakers. message me if interested on aim at mikcomputing, aim at mcsltd3@hotmail.com or yahoo at mcsltd2 only if interested and wanting to buy. willing to put on a yahoo buy it now auction |
| [01:55:00] | Agrajag-: | oh channel |
| [01:55:00] | Agrajag-: | sorry, no idea |
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| [01:56:00] | stealth: | Agrajag-, what is the proper way? |
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| [01:56:00] | Agrajag-: | stealth: the way it says to do it in the docs. why are you using latest svn btw? |
| [01:57:00] | stealth: | i dunno.. and yea i did it by the docs |
| [01:57:00] | Agrajag-: | well if you don't know why you're using svn then you probably shouldn't |
| [01:57:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [01:58:00] | Beirdo: | mstrmind ain't so smart |
| [01:58:00] | Chutt: | stealth, what is 'mythsetup'? |
| [01:58:00] | Cromz: | must go today.. 1 brain on drugs. |
| [01:58:00] | Cromz: | :) |
| [01:59:00] | stealth: | seems to be the same as myth-setup |
| [01:59:00] | Chutt: | you certainly didn't get that from svn. |
| [01:59:00] | Cromz: | isn't it a ln to myth-setup? |
| [01:59:00] | Chutt: | not from mythtv. |
| [01:59:00] | Chutt: | there's no such thing in the mythtv sources. |
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| [02:00:00] | Cromz: | hmm might be from the source I got mine from. yum install ;) |
| [02:02:00] | Cromz: | doh. it's mythtvsetup that links to mythtv-setup |
| [02:02:00] | Beirdo: | I need some rum-setup |
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| [02:03:00] | redline-: | hey guys anyone having any issues with pluggins notinitializing with the latest checkout? |
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| [02:04:00] | KaiForce: | anyone using a pvr250 can tell me the best firmware with ivtv 0.4.1 – seems like there is conflicting info on the ivtvdriver.org site |
| [02:09:00] | tanq: | quick question regarding irexec |
| [02:10:00] | tanq: | i created a script in /home/tanq/.mythtv/volumeIncrease.sh and Decrease |
| [02:10:00] | tanq: | eace of these files is mapped to Volume-UP and DOWN |
| [02:10:00] | tanq: | s/eace/each |
| [02:10:00] | tanq: | do you have any idea why they are not being executed? i have done chmod +x on them |
| [02:10:00] | tanq: | and I can run them independently of irexec |
| [02:13:00] | alpha255: | KaiForce, i used the one from myth(tv)oloy website |
| [02:14:00] | KaiForce: | alpha255: thanks, I built from that site but missed that |
| [02:15:00] | alpha255: | i'm in the midst of getting a mythtv box working from that site |
| [02:15:00] | alpha255: | got nivida card working, dvd playing, but no tv yet |
| [02:15:00] | alpha255: | have dishnetwork cable plugged in, but nothing on screen from tv cable |
| [02:16:00] | tanq: | i guess noone ever has this problem with irexec? |
| [02:17:00] | alpha255: | tanq, try searching the logs for this channel |
| [02:17:00] | alpha255: | in google..... irexec site:mythtv.beirdo.ca |
| [02:18:00] | tanq: | alpha255: well here is the thing.. i already have this working with shell scripts.. |
| [02:18:00] | tanq: | i just can't figure out why the heck it wont execute this one in particular. |
| [02:18:00] | alpha255: | ahhh |
| [02:18:00] | tanq: | i even added an echo >blah.out |
| [02:18:00] | alpha255: | chmod 777 for that script? |
| [02:18:00] | tanq: | and it isn't creating blah.out |
| [02:19:00] | tanq: | i did chmod +x |
| [02:19:00] | tanq: | it has the same perms as the other files |
| [02:19:00] | alpha255: | what about owner? |
| [02:19:00] | alpha255: | group |
| [02:19:00] | tanq: | all the same |
| [02:19:00] | alpha255: | etc.. |
| [02:19:00] | tanq: | all attribute are the same |
| [02:19:00] | alpha255: | hummm *should* work |
| [02:19:00] | tanq: | everything executed in the program has the full path to eliminate path issues |
| [02:20:00] | tanq: | should i post my script to see if you see anything obvious? |
| [02:21:00] | alpha255: | use pastebin |
| [02:21:00] | tanq: | http://pastebin.ca/37028 |
| [02:22:00] | tanq: | nothing elaborate but I couldn't figure out any other way to change my volume |
| [02:22:00] | alpha255: | hummm |
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| [02:23:00] | tanq: | http://pastebin.ca/37029 |
| [02:23:00] | tanq: | here are the permissions |
| [02:24:00] | alpha255: | perms look good |
| [02:24:00] | alpha255: | humm |
| [02:24:00] | tanq: | lirc in a second |
| [02:24:00] | tanq: | http://pastebin.ca/37030 |
| [02:24:00] | tanq: | ok now the shutdown script works |
| [02:25:00] | tanq: | i mean the mapping to the power button works just fine |
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| [02:26:00] | tanq: | any ideas? |
| [02:26:00] | alpha255: | dunno sorry |
| [02:26:00] | tanq: | bleh |
| [02:26:00] | tanq: | i don't know either.. |
| [02:26:00] | tanq: | heh |
| [02:27:00] | tanq: | i've run out of ideas |
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| [02:30:00] | alpha255: | anyone else know? |
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| [02:33:00] | alpha255: | tanq, i'm getting error backend server ins't running |
| [02:34:00] | alpha255: | service mythbackend status shows it running |
| [02:34:00] | tanq: | mysql? |
| [02:34:00] | alpha255: | pid is dead hang on |
| [02:34:00] | red_fox: | alpha255, does ps -A show mythbackend? |
| [02:34:00] | alpha255: | nope |
| [02:34:00] | red_fox: | then it isn't running |
| [02:34:00] | Beirdo: | someone rang? |
| [02:35:00] | alpha255: | thnx |
| [02:36:00] | alpha255: | it keeps giving pid and dies |
| [02:37:00] | red_fox: | alpha255, what command are you running to start it? |
| [02:37:00] | alpha255: | service mythbackend restart |
| [02:37:00] | red_fox: | try just starting the mythbackend... type mythbackend |
| [02:37:00] | red_fox: | you may have to hit ctrl-c to stop it |
| [02:38:00] | alpha255: | mythbackend dead but pid file exists |
| [02:38:00] | red_fox: | well did it give any output when you ran it? |
| [02:38:00] | alpha255: | i removed the pid file in /var/lock/subsys |
| [02:39:00] | red_fox: | the pid file doesn't matter when you aren't using service |
| [02:42:00] | alpha255: | front end works |
| [02:42:00] | alpha255: | entered stuff for mysql |
| [02:42:00] | alpha255: | mysql is running |
| [02:43:00] | alpha255: | i'll keep on reading |
| [02:43:00] | red_fox: | did you try running it straight, without using system?? |
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| [02:46:00] | alpha255: | mplayer -vo xv /tmp/test_capture.mpg like that |
| [02:47:00] | red_fox: | umm... no |
| [02:47:00] | alpha255: | hummm |
| [02:47:00] | red_fox: | your problem is that mythbackend is not running |
| [02:47:00] | red_fox: | so I'm suggesting that you start it by hand |
| [02:47:00] | alpha255: | ohh |
| [02:47:00] | red_fox: | without using system |
| [02:47:00] | alpha255: | like this |
| [02:47:00] | alpha255: | cd /etc/rc.d/init.d/ |
| [02:47:00] | red_fox: | so go to your command line, and type mythbackend (enter) |
| [02:47:00] | red_fox: | don't worry about start-up scripts like init.d |
| [02:48:00] | red_fox: | just run the program |
| [02:48:00] | alpha255: | k |
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| [02:48:00] | alpha255: | in /usr/bin/ right? |
| [02:48:00] | red_fox: | could be, you shouldn't need to specify that |
| [02:48:00] | alpha255: | ther's the error |
| [02:48:00] | alpha255: | ya, it was in the path |
| [02:49:00] | alpha255: | bind video sources to your card' inputs |
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| [02:49:00] | red_fox: | you could type 'whereis mythbackend' |
| [02:49:00] | alpha255: | 's |
| [02:49:00] | alpha255: | or which |
| [02:49:00] | red_fox: | ah ok |
| [02:49:00] | alpha255: | right? |
| [02:49:00] | red_fox: | you do that in mythsetup |
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| [02:50:00] | alpha255: | bind video sources off i go |
| [02:50:00] | sphing: | where can i submit bugs |
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| [02:50:00] | alpha255: | red_fox, thnx... i working in the mythtvsetup gui now |
| [02:50:00] | Beirdo: | svn.mythtv.org |
| [02:51:00] | red_fox: | alpha255, ok good luck |
| [02:53:00] | alpha255: | thnx |
| [02:53:00] | wega_: | All – I am having issues with lirc... I am able to run irrecord, but the codes for one specific key is different everytime i run it... same goes for mode2... so nothing is output when running irw b/c codes don't match what is in /etc/lircd.conf |
| [02:53:00] | wega_: | PLEASE HELP!! |
| [02:53:00] | wega_: | i am losing it |
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| [02:56:00] | lirc: | All – I am having issues with lirc... I am able to run irrecord, but the codes for one specific key is different everytime i run it... same goes for mode2... so nothing is output when running irw b/c codes don't match what is in /etc/lircd.conf |
| [02:57:00] | lirc: | anyone have any suggestions |
| [02:58:00] | Kelerion: | ok.. I think I've found a bug – maybe.. it could quite as easily be my lack of understanding.. there's a global setting for "recording XX minutes after a recording".. but this doesn't seem to take effect unless I set in the recording schedule "end recording XX minutes late" |
| [02:58:00] | Kelerion: | should I post this to the mailing list? |
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| [03:00:00] | ** Kelerion hates reporting bugs.. it makes me sound ungrateful ** | |
| [03:01:00] | lirc: | please guys, i am at my wit's end |
| [03:01:00] | sphing: | does anyone else have issues with video losing time sync on anything over an hour |
| [03:02:00] | Kelerion: | I don't know if this has been reported before.. but this is from a svn update from last night |
| [03:02:00] | Kelerion: | and I noticed it a couple of weeks ago too |
| [03:03:00] | sphing: | lirc... you're having an lirc problem |
| [03:06:00] | Kelerion: | can anyone confirm this problem? |
| [03:07:00] | lirc: | sphing thanks |
| [03:07:00] | lirc: | i know |
| [03:07:00] | sphing: | I'm saying, not all of us know lirc |
| [03:07:00] | lirc: | anything you can offer in the way of help? |
| [03:07:00] | lirc: | oh |
| [03:07:00] | sphing: | so not all of us can help, which maybe why you havent gotten an answer yet |
| [03:07:00] | lirc: | yeah i know, but many do here and the lirc channel is pretty empty most of the time |
| [03:08:00] | lirc: | point taken though |
| [03:08:00] | lirc: | i have been working on it for over 3hours and i am just frustrated |
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| [03:12:00] | sphing: | lirc is it a custom receiver? |
| [03:12:00] | sphing: | homebuilt |
| [03:12:00] | lirc: | i bought it from the one the jarod site recommends |
| [03:13:00] | Kamy: | how can I see what the load is on cpu? Is there anything built into mythtv to display that? Kind of like xmbmon? |
| [03:13:00] | red_fox: | Kamy, use top |
| [03:13:00] | red_fox: | it is command-line |
| [03:13:00] | Kamy: | any parameters or arguments? |
| [03:13:00] | red_fox: | nope |
| [03:14:00] | Kamy: | col thanks :?) |
| [03:14:00] | Kamy: | damn, my typing sucks :) |
| [03:14:00] | sphing: | lirc |
| [03:14:00] | sphing: | http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.lirc/month=20041001 |
| [03:14:00] | sphing: | oct 4th |
| [03:14:00] | sphing: | something like that |
| [03:14:00] | Kelerion: | it tells you the load status in "System Status".. at least it does on mine |
| [03:19:00] | lirc: | sphing: i see the post and this seems similar, but there are zero comments on the post |
| [03:19:00] | lirc: | where to go now? |
| [03:20:00] | sphing: | I'm asking is that something similar |
| [03:20:00] | sphing: | and how far away are you holding the remote from the receiver, try putting like an inch away |
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| [03:22:00] | acm: | my mythtv recordings recently all of a fraction of a second pause every 2 seconds. anyone experience this before? |
| [03:23:00] | lirc: | sphing: ok i will try an inch and let you know the results, but i have tried very close, and also from the couch with the same things this person describes in their post |
| [03:23:00] | sphing: | lirc: it sounds like you have bad hardware |
| [03:23:00] | lirc: | you think? |
| [03:23:00] | lirc: | that sucks |
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| [03:24:00] | sphing: | irrecord gives raw data, i mean.. its reporting diff bytes with the same thing, so either the remote is giving bad data, the receiver is reading bad data, or you loaded the wrong driver |
| [03:25:00] | lirc: | what do you mean by the wrong driver? |
| [03:25:00] | Kelerion: | acm.. is that the same error as was just reported to -users list? |
| [03:25:00] | sphing: | lirc your kernel driver is wrong |
| [03:25:00] | sphing: | like your loading the xbox lirc for a serial ir receiver |
| [03:25:00] | sphing: | or something like that |
| [03:26:00] | lirc: | would my modprobe file be loading the lirc driver? |
| [03:27:00] | sphing: | modprobe file? |
| [03:27:00] | lirc: | - /etc/modprobe.conf |
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| [03:29:00] | lirc: | sping: i think the hardware and remote are good, i think it is something like the settings of trying to capture a code because there are about 3–5 different codes i get |
| [03:30:00] | lirc: | for the same key |
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| [03:30:00] | sphing: | 3–5 codes |
| [03:30:00] | sphing: | not random? |
| [03:30:00] | lirc: | no not random |
| [03:30:00] | kahuna_: | good evening |
| [03:30:00] | sphing: | ah.... then something is probably wrong |
| [03:30:00] | lirc: | if you look at that post, the same thing is happening |
| [03:30:00] | Kamy: | wierd, just finished recording an episode of southpark, all was fine until the very end, when a recording started on the other tuner, the end of my south park recording sounds like they are talking down a tunnel |
| [03:30:00] | kahuna_: | or whatever it is wherever you are |
| [03:31:00] | Kelerion: | I have 2 codes on my kameleon remote regularly for the same keypress |
| [03:31:00] | kahuna_: | well, were they talking down a tunnel? |
| [03:31:00] | kahuna_: | :P |
| [03:31:00] | Kamy: | lol |
| [03:31:00] | Kamy: | not in that episode ;) |
| [03:32:00] | Kamy: | was a kind of wierd echo, any idea what could cause it? |
| [03:32:00] | lirc: | kelerion: how do you handle that in your lircd.conf file? two seperate entries? |
| [03:32:00] | Kelerion: | yup |
| [03:32:00] | adrock_: | kel: are you setting repeat = in your lircrc |
| [03:33:00] | Kelerion: | two hex values.. same key |
| [03:33:00] | kahuna_: | have you had the problem before? Maybe a PCI or DMA related problem? |
| [03:33:00] | adrock_: | mine does the same |
| [03:33:00] | adrock_: | i have repeat=3 for each entry in my lircrc |
| [03:33:00] | Kelerion: | works fine when I set it like that |
| [03:33:00] | adrock_: | i think you get a button down message and a button up message |
| [03:33:00] | kahuna_: | I can record on my 2 tuners just fine. What version of myth are you using? |
| [03:33:00] | Kelerion: | adrock_ yup. .thats it exactly |
| [03:34:00] | adrock_: | yea just set repeat=3 |
| [03:34:00] | adrock_: | for each mapping in lircrc |
| [03:34:00] | adrock_: | there's prolly some devicewide setting |
| [03:34:00] | Kamy: | 18.1 I think, it came with knoppmyth R5A26 |
| [03:34:00] | adrock_: | but i'm entirely too lazy to find out what it is |
| [03:34:00] | Kelerion: | I don't need to.. I just set both codes in lircd.conf to the same key |
| [03:34:00] | adrock_: | oh wait |
| [03:34:00] | adrock_: | you get two different codes |
| [03:34:00] | Kelerion: | yup |
| [03:34:00] | adrock_: | oh weird |
| [03:34:00] | lirc: | well my mappings come out as many different decimal values... not one hex value |
| [03:35:00] | Kelerion: | nope.. .button down.. button up |
| [03:35:00] | lirc: | that is a weird thing too |
| [03:35:00] | adrock_: | when i run irw |
| [03:35:00] | adrock_: | i get output like this |
| [03:35:00] | lirc: | i guess that is considered "raw" |
| [03:35:00] | Kelerion: | works fine when I set both codes |
| [03:35:00] | adrock_: | 00000014749f0000 00 RIGHT Snapstream |
| [03:35:00] | adrock_: | 00000014749f0000 01 RIGHT Snapstream |
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| [03:35:00] | adrock_: | what does yours look like? |
| [03:36:00] | lirc: | adrock_: who are you asking? |
| [03:36:00] | adrock_: | kelerion |
| [03:36:00] | Kelerion: | I don't have mine to hand.. but those hex keys would be different.. |
| [03:36:00] | Kelerion: | 00000014749f00XXXX 00 RIGHT Snapstream |
| [03:37:00] | Kelerion: | 00000014749f00YYYY 00 RIGHT Snapstream |
| [03:37:00] | adrock_: | funky |
| [03:37:00] | lirc: | Kelerion, how did you find your hex values? |
| [03:37:00] | lirc: | or adrock for that matter |
| [03:37:00] | Kelerion: | irrecord |
| [03:37:00] | lirc: | and the file created had hex values? |
| [03:37:00] | adrock_: | i found a config on the internet : ) |
| [03:38:00] | lirc: | yeah there is one for mine but it no workie :( |
| [03:38:00] | Kelerion: | yup |
| [03:38:00] | adrock_: | is that not expected behavior? |
| [03:38:00] | adrock_: | should i only see one line of irw output per button press? |
| [03:38:00] | Kelerion: | nope.. about 5 or 6 |
| [03:38:00] | lirc: | well, mine produces over twenty decimal values for each key |
| [03:38:00] | Kelerion: | ya'll are putting me off my poker game.. lol |
| [03:39:00] | lirc: | sorry but my hair is falling out if that helps |
| [03:39:00] | Kelerion: | I'm not female.. I don't multitask too well.. lol |
| [03:39:00] | lirc: | any ideas why i would get a bunch of decimal values instead of just one hex val? |
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| [03:40:00] | adrock_: | which tool are you using? |
| [03:40:00] | lirc: | irrecord or mode2 |
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| [03:40:00] | adrock_: | look at it with irw |
| [03:40:00] | lirc: | either one is just a bunch of numbers and not one clean line of hex vals |
| [03:41:00] | alpha255: | is ptune still included? |
| [03:41:00] | lirc: | on mode2 i get this output |
| [03:41:00] | lirc: | space 324 |
| [03:41:00] | lirc: | pulse 1245 |
| [03:41:00] | lirc: | over and over |
| [03:42:00] | adrock_: | ignore mode2 |
| [03:42:00] | adrock_: | you want irrecord |
| [03:42:00] | lirc: | ok |
| [03:42:00] | adrock_: | honestly |
| [03:42:00] | adrock_: | you really want to google |
| [03:42:00] | adrock_: | and just find one someone else has already made for your remote |
| [03:42:00] | lirc: | man i have been at that for about 4 hours today |
| [03:42:00] | adrock_: | what kind of remote? |
| [03:42:00] | lirc: | http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/sony/RM-Y181 |
| [03:42:00] | tanq: | soooo |
| [03:43:00] | lirc: | but that doesnt work because it doesnt seem to match up what i am reading in |
| [03:43:00] | lirc: | it has hex vals |
| [03:43:00] | adrock_: | drop that lircd.conf in |
| [03:43:00] | adrock_: | and run irw |
| [03:43:00] | lirc: | i have tried that but i will try again |
| [03:44:00] | Kelerion: | if you try that.. in irw you should see "Muting pressed", "Power pressed" etc |
| [03:44:00] | adrock_: | ignore the codes |
| [03:44:00] | lirc: | no i dont get anything in irw |
| [03:45:00] | adrock_: | run it as root |
| [03:45:00] | Kelerion: | restarted lirc? |
| [03:45:00] | lirc: | lirc on? |
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| [03:45:00] | Kelerion: | yup |
| [03:45:00] | adrock_: | restart lirc, run irw as root |
| [03:45:00] | lirc: | k trying now as root |
| [03:46:00] | lirc: | quiet as a mouse |
| [03:46:00] | lirc: | nothing coming out of irw |
| [03:46:00] | lirc: | on any button |
| [03:46:00] | adrock_: | hmmm |
| [03:46:00] | Kelerion: | *absolutely* sure it's the right lircd.conf? |
| [03:46:00] | adrock_: | there might be /etc/lircd/lircd.conf |
| [03:46:00] | Kelerion: | as in.. absolutely sure it's *that* remote? |
| [03:46:00] | adrock_: | and /etc/lircd.conf |
| [03:47:00] | lirc: | yeah its that remote |
| [03:47:00] | lirc: | i will check the lircd to see if it is a directory |
| [03:47:00] | adrock_: | locate lircd.conf |
| [03:49:00] | lirc: | there is no /etc/lircd/lircd.conf |
| [03:49:00] | lirc: | only in /etc |
| [03:50:00] | lirc: | and a bunch in usr/share/doc/lirc-0.8.0/remotes/ |
| [03:50:00] | Kelerion: | use irrecord to create it then.. with lircd stopped |
| [03:50:00] | lirc: | they all end in .manufacturer |
| [03:53:00] | lirc: | to end recording just hit enter right? |
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| [03:54:00] | Kelerion: | then copy the file you just created to lircd.conf.. restart lircd.. and try irw to test it |
| [03:56:00] | lirc: | nothing |
| [03:56:00] | lirc: | :( |
| [03:56:00] | Kelerion: | dunno then..sorry |
| [03:56:00] | Kelerion: | okies.. bedtime for me.. gnight |
| [03:56:00] | lirc: | you think hardware problem? |
| [03:57:00] | adrock_: | get new batteries for your remote |
| [03:57:00] | adrock_: | : ) |
| [03:57:00] | lirc: | oh now that is a thought |
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| [04:01:00] | lirc: | adrock: that is kind of working |
| [04:01:00] | lirc: | !!! |
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| [04:09:00] | SqWaw: | !moo |
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| [04:10:00] | tanq: | can anyone offer up some good debug techniques for irexec and shell scripts |
| [04:10:00] | tanq: | its like my shell script isn't even getting executed |
| [04:11:00] | tanq: | i stubbed it out with echo blah >/home/tanq/.mythtv/blah.out and it does nothing |
| [04:13:00] | adrock_: | maybe stub it out with /tmp/blah.out |
| [04:13:00] | adrock_: | mebbe you can't write to ~tanq |
| [04:13:00] | tanq: | hrmm. well irexec is owned by tanq |
| [04:13:00] | tanq: | so i should be able to write to tanq but i'll try that.. |
| [04:15:00] | tanq: | nope |
| [04:15:00] | tanq: | that didn't work |
| [04:20:00] | stealth: | what am I doing wrong? http://home.earthlink.net/~wing549/mythtv-wtf.mpeg |
| [04:20:00] | tanq: | what does the mpeg display |
| [04:20:00] | lirc: | anyone have the web address for a good ir reciever?? i used the one at http://www.irblaster.info/ and it is a peice of garbage |
| [04:20:00] | stealth: | tanq, the steps i took to get myth going |
| [04:21:00] | lirc: | adrock: do you use an ir receiver?? |
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| [04:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | stealth lemme guess |
| [04:22:00] | a1cypher: | Hello people.. I am having some problems with mythtv and I was wondering if you guys could help me out. |
| [04:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | installing 0.18.x ? |
| [04:22:00] | stealth: | yea |
| [04:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | With MySQL 5 ? |
| [04:22:00] | stealth: | no |
| [04:22:00] | stealth: | i recompiled with mysql 4 |
| [04:23:00] | a1cypher: | When I first start myth I can play and record and everything seems ok (moderately anyway). After a couple minutes of playing TV, the thing freezes up for about thirty seconds at a time and I get barraged with: 2006-01–16 22:22:35.086 Timed out waiting for free video buffers. from mythtvbackend. |
| [04:23:00] | a1cypher: | This is really frustrating, I don't understand why MythTV has so much problems playing off the capture card when mplayer can play off the card live with no problems |
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| [04:24:00] | Cyorxamp: | Lo, I got two dxr3 cards here spare – some guy on efnet said to come here for ideas on what to do with em :P |
| [04:24:00] | a1cypher: | and when it is working I also get a bunch of pre-buffering pauses that stay there until I pause for a sec or two. |
| [04:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | stealth too much fo what was output to the console scrolls before anyone can see it |
| [04:24:00] | a1cypher: | Cyorxamp: send them to me. ;) |
| [04:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | if there was an error creating the mythconverg databsae it would be there |
| [04:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | Haha I was just about say that |
| [04:25:00] | Cyorxamp: | lol |
| [04:25:00] | stealth: | GreyFoxx, http://pastebin.com/509166 |
| [04:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'll add them to my existing dxr3 collection |
| [04:25:00] | lirc: | hey guys, what ir receiver do you use??? |
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| [04:25:00] | Cyorxamp: | but seriously – I don't think there good for much |
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| [04:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | They still work then they are good for something, but it's up to you to determine if it's worth anything to you |
| [04:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | many vdr users use dxr3's |
| [04:26:00] | Kyler_: | I just upgraded to Linux 2.6.15.1 and ivtv 0.4.2. Captures are much better but I'm still getting pauses during playback. Sometimes they're so long that the program stops playing. |
| [04:26:00] | Cyorxamp: | i got a pc in the living room, but it uses the tv out on the gphx card you see |
| [04:26:00] | alpha255: | global backend setup channel frequency table .... I set this to us-cable for dishnetwork input to tuner right? |
| [04:26:00] | alpha255: | this i under mythtv-setup |
| [04:26:00] | alpha255: | is |
| [04:27:00] | adrock_: | i use a snapstream firefly remote |
| [04:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | stealth, show me the contents of your mysql.txt on pastebin |
| [04:27:00] | adrock_: | it uses the lirc_atiusb driver |
| [04:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | the one in ~stealth/.mythtv or if there is not a global one |
| [04:27:00] | Cyorxamp: | OK... theoritcal question time... |
| [04:28:00] | Cyorxamp: | I would like to blend the cable of my gphx card tv out with the tv out of the dxr3 |
| [04:28:00] | a1cypher: | Kyler_: I am using a similar kernel and am having simmilar problems... hrmmm |
| [04:28:00] | adrock_: | theoretically, you have to be bright to be president |
| [04:28:00] | stealth: | GreyFoxx, http://pastebin.com/509346 |
| [04:28:00] | Cyorxamp: | when mythtv decides to play a video, can it turn off output on my gphx card (on tv) and use dxr3 instead? |
| [04:28:00] | Cyorxamp: | thus avoiding interference? |
| [04:29:00] | a1cypher: | better question: can mythtv properly play a video? |
| [04:29:00] | Kyler_: | It wasn't always like this. When I first installed MythTV I didn't get skips even with four recording and one playing. |
| [04:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | Myth doesn't use dxr3's in any way, so you would have to code up a patch |
| [04:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | Cyorxamp: I use to use a dxr3 for output on one of my frontends a long time ago |
| [04:29:00] | a1cypher: | Kyler_: what kernel did you used to use? |
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| [04:29:00] | a1cypher: | and what cards do you have? |
| [04:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | My old P166 frontend |
| [04:29:00] | Kyler_: | I was just at 2.6.13.4 but it was skipping a lot (with ivtv 0.4.0). |
| [04:29:00] | sklav: | hi guys anybody know a good howto for ubuntu? / debian |
| [04:30:00] | adrock_: | yes |
| [04:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | a1cypher: No, it can't play videos at all, we just like to us eup disk space |
| [04:30:00] | adrock_: | aberaccia.com |
| [04:30:00] | Cyorxamp: | so these dxr3's are worth nothing in terms of practability |
| [04:30:00] | sklav: | Kyler_, enabled dma |
| [04:30:00] | Kyler_: | DMA is on for my IDE drives. I'm doing software RAID with IDE and SATA. |
| [04:30:00] | adrock_: | sklav: http://www.abarbaccia.com/ |
| [04:30:00] | sklav: | adrock_, its not working |
| [04:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | Cyorxamp: Currently not for myth, but like I said, you could just patch myth to send the mpeg data to it for decoding. I did it once, only took a couple hours to find my way through the code and add it |
| [04:30:00] | adrock_: | i spelled it wrong |
| [04:31:00] | sklav: | ok |
| [04:31:00] | adrock_: | follow that one, it rules |
| [04:31:00] | sklav: | i got it |
| [04:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | menus and such were on a monitor, but playback was on the dxr3 |
| [04:31:00] | Kyler_: | I notice that mythcommflag is popping up in "top" a lot. |
| [04:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | then I hacked up X to dispplay on the dxr3, had a drive meltdown and lost the source to the X mods and haven't gone back to it since |
| [04:32:00] | Kyler_: | Is there an easy way (wrapper?) to make mythcommflag run "nice". |
| [04:32:00] | Kyler_: | ? |
| [04:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | stealth: I would say watch mysql logs to see exactly where the table creation is stopping |
| [04:32:00] | stealth: | GreyFoxx, mysql.txt look good? |
| [04:32:00] | Beirdo: | set it up to be that way, Kyler_ |
| [04:32:00] | tanq: | anyone here use oss with myth? |
| [04:32:00] | Beirdo: | you don't need to do anything special |
| [04:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | stealth: are you 100% positive you are not using mysql5 ? |
| [04:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | what does mysql -v return ? |
| [04:33:00] | Beirdo: | tanq, yes, I use OSS |
| [04:33:00] | adrock_: | kyler_: i think mythcommflag does run nice'd |
| [04:33:00] | tanq: | my problem is that I am trying to control sound from mythtv, but I had to do it with a script |
| [04:33:00] | tanq: | Beirdo: how do you control sound with lircrc |
| [04:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | or that you don't have 2 versions installed and the server that is running is mysql5 ? |
| [04:33:00] | stealth: | version: 4.1.14 |
| [04:33:00] | stealth: | i restarted mysqld upon recompiling mysql to 4 |
| [04:33:00] | Beirdo: | I don't use lirc |
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| [04:33:00] | Kyler_: | mythcommflag has some "check every so often to make sure the load isn't too high" thing. |
| [04:34:00] | tanq: | Beirdo: what do you use? |
| [04:34:00] | Beirdo: | a keyboard |
| [04:34:00] | tanq: | bleh |
| [04:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | stealth: Yeah, but if the two versions where in different directories, say one under /usr and one under /usr/local you could easily be starting the wrong one. Just something to check anyway |
| [04:34:00] | a1cypher: | Does anyone here use Gentoo for their mythbox? |
| [04:34:00] | tanq: | Beirdo: I wrote this script http://pastebin.ca/37028 to do volume increase and i also have one for volume decrease |
| [04:35:00] | metalac: | hey anyone here knows if HDA Digital X-Mystique Sound Card runs on linux fine? i read somewhere that it supports only 4 channels, which defeats the purpose of having a 7.1 sound system i guess |
| [04:35:00] | stealth: | GreyFoxx, naa.. im using Gentoo so im pretty sure portage is pretty good about removing the old version |
| [04:35:00] | a1cypher: | and if so, should the standard ivtv that's in emerge work? |
| [04:35:00] | Cyorxamp: | is there any TV Tuner, that can save to mpeg4 directly? |
| [04:35:00] | tanq: | but i'm having problems with irexec |
| [04:35:00] | stealth: | a1cypher, trying to |
| [04:35:00] | sklav: | thanks for the link adrock_ |
| [04:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | steealth, then I can only suggest checking your mysql logs, see where it's stopping |
| [04:35:00] | alpha255: | red_fox, mythtv-setup go me going thnx |
| [04:35:00] | alpha255: | go = got |
| [04:36:00] | Cyorxamp: | anyone know if there are any tv tuners than can hardware encode straight to mpeg4? |
| [04:36:00] | adrock_: | i don't |
| [04:36:00] | Kyler_: | I noticed that there are options for kernel scheduling. Any suggestions? |
| [04:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | the plextor |
| [04:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | and maybe some others |
| [04:36:00] | Cyorxamp: | i mean I got a Nova-T thing,but that does mpeg2 and the files are huge |
| [04:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | though the reports ?I've hear say the mpeg4 ones look kinda crappy |
| [04:37:00] | adrock_: | i would like to know which tuner/encoder and video card the developers run |
| [04:37:00] | Cyorxamp: | got a model number for that plextor GreyFoxx? |
| [04:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | u402 or something like that |
| [04:37:00] | Kyler_: | M402U? |
| [04:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | yup |
| [04:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | http://www.plextor.com/english/products/ConvertX2.htm |
| [04:38:00] | Kyler_: | That's a USB 2.0 device. It works well? |
| [04:38:00] | Cyorxamp: | hmm :S |
| [04:38:00] | Cyorxamp: | not quite what I expected |
| [04:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | No clue |
| [04:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | Like I said, I've just heard people say that mpeg4 captures from it look crappy |
| [04:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | but I've never seen it |
| [04:39:00] | metalac: | anyone using HDA Digital X-Mystique Sound Card ?? |
| [04:39:00] | Kyler_: | I'd be willing to use MPEG-2 out of it. |
| [04:39:00] | metalac: | or do you know if it works with alsa? |
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| [04:43:00] | adrock_: | i have a pvr500 |
| [04:43:00] | adrock_: | i'm sorta happy with the capture quality |
| [04:51:00] | tanq: | man.. |
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| [04:55:00] | xpis: | Hm.. is there a way to override the protocol version checking? |
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| [04:56:00] | Agrajag-: | xpis: why would you want to do that? |
| [04:57:00] | xpis: | Because the version was updated in the time between the compilations of my client and server. |
| [04:57:00] | Chutt: | so upgrade again. |
| [04:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | Then just revert one versioon to match the other or update both ? |
| [04:57:00] | xpis: | I am, but it's taking forever to recompile |
| [04:58:00] | xpis: | And I want to connect in the meantime. |
| [04:58:00] | a1cypher: | I think it might be lircd that's causing my problems |
| [04:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | You should still be able to watch recordings |
| [04:58:00] | Agrajag-: | well.. the protocol version is there for a reason |
| [04:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | LiveTV will barf if versions differ but Watching a recording usually still works |
| [04:58:00] | Chutt: | GreyFoxx, this time it won't |
| [04:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | ahhh |
| [04:59:00] | xpis: | The server dumps the connection immediatly |
| [04:59:00] | Chutt: | xpis, buy a faster machine |
| [04:59:00] | Chutt: | if you want faster compiles. |
| [04:59:00] | Chutt: | or compile once, and install on both. |
| [04:59:00] | a1cypher: | watching the recording behaves exactly the same as livetv for me |
| [04:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | And or use ccache and distcc to spread the load to both machine |
| [04:59:00] | a1cypher: | I have to pause or I get prebuffering pauses |
| [04:59:00] | xpis: | One is 64-bit, the other is 32-bit |
| [05:00:00] | xpis: | otherwise, I would have done that |
| [05:00:00] | Chutt: | then distcc it. |
| [05:00:00] | a1cypher: | and then after a few minutes the whole thing locks up and mucks up X. then I have to restart X and I can watch TV (with prebuffering pauses) and the remote doesn't work. but it doesn't crash |
| [05:00:00] | xpis: | It's too late now, it's almost done |
| [05:00:00] | Chutt: | hell, just do both checkouts at the same time. |
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| [05:01:00] | a1cypher: | Are there firmware updates or something that I need? |
| [05:01:00] | rjune: | evening chutt |
| [05:01:00] | a1cypher: | or a patch. |
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| [05:13:00] | render1: | a1cypher: just out of curiousity are you using nvidia drivers and if so what version? |
| [05:13:00] | a1cypher: | yes |
| [05:14:00] | render1: | i had those prebuffering problems and ungodly cpu usage with newer nvidia drivers |
| [05:14:00] | a1cypher: | NVIDIA-Linux-x86–1.0-8178-pkg1 |
| [05:14:00] | render1: | reverting to older ones fixed everything for me |
| [05:14:00] | render1: | nods |
| [05:14:00] | render1: | revert to 6629 |
| [05:14:00] | render1: | thats what i'm using |
| [05:14:00] | render1: | on a 5200fx |
| [05:14:00] | a1cypher: | do they list them on the NVIDIA website? |
| [05:14:00] | a1cypher: | mine is an onboard geforce 4 mx |
| [05:15:00] | render1: | i'd try something a bit older off the nvidia site |
| [05:15:00] | render1: | what distro you use? |
| [05:15:00] | a1cypher: | gentoo |
| [05:15:00] | render1: | emerge em |
| [05:15:00] | a1cypher: | hrm.. I didn't even think to check if it was in there... |
| [05:16:00] | render1: | oh man, you wanna use portage for that |
| [05:16:00] | a1cypher: | how do I check the CPU usage? |
| [05:16:00] | render1: | use the nvidia installer to clean everything up and then install em thru portage |
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| [05:17:00] | render1: | emerge =media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.6629-r7 |
| [05:17:00] | render1: | top |
| [05:17:00] | render1: | or ps aux |
| [05:17:00] | a1cypher: | why don't I just do emerge nvidia |
| [05:18:00] | render1: | shrug, depending on your cpu and what not it might install something newer |
| [05:18:00] | a1cypher: | yah, my CPU is at 97.7% |
| [05:18:00] | render1: | mythfrontend was chewing up like 70–76% for me with the newer drivers |
| [05:18:00] | a1cypher: | I have a sempron 2500+ |
| [05:18:00] | render1: | which is unfortunate because i got really outstanding framerates in glxgears |
| [05:19:00] | render1: | i guess theres a work around if you disable opengl or something when compiling mythtv but i don't know how to go about it |
| [05:19:00] | render1: | reverting to older drivers solved everything |
| [05:19:00] | render1: | so i ain't complaining |
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| [05:22:00] | a1cypher: | render1: did you have problems with the remote? |
| [05:22:00] | metalac: | anyone using HDA Digital X-Mystique Sound Card ?? |
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| [05:22:00] | render1: | yeah, i still have problems with it heh |
| [05:22:00] | a1cypher: | does it just stop working after a while? |
| [05:22:00] | render1: | hrmm no |
| [05:22:00] | render1: | i just don't have the buttons how i like them |
| [05:23:00] | render1: | but if you restart the lircd daemon |
| [05:23:00] | render1: | you have to rerun irexec -d as well |
| [05:23:00] | render1: | and as the user you use myth with |
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| [05:23:00] | render1: | as it reads the config files from the users home directory |
| [05:23:00] | render1: | i.e. if you're root from /root |
| [05:24:00] | a1cypher: | I have to run ivtvctl --reset-ir |
| [05:24:00] | a1cypher: | and then restart lirc |
| [05:24:00] | render1: | hrm |
| [05:24:00] | render1: | i dunno, i've not really figured out all the remote stuff yet |
| [05:24:00] | render1: | it works but the buttons are a bit whacky |
| [05:25:00] | render1: | just haven't sat down and gone thru the lircrc file in .mythtv |
| [05:25:00] | a1cypher: | The remote works well for me when it works, but its been stopping. I am slowly.. ever so slowly.. making progress on this mythbox |
| [05:25:00] | render1: | yeah, it's a bit challenging to set up in my experience |
| [05:25:00] | render1: | i've never used mysql or lirc or ivtv before |
| [05:25:00] | render1: | so it's all new to me |
| [05:25:00] | a1cypher: | how do I uninstall the old NVIDIA module? |
| [05:26:00] | render1: | well first rmmod nvidia |
| [05:26:00] | a1cypher: | I emerged the new one but now x says "API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module is version 0.8178.0, but |
| [05:26:00] | a1cypher: | this X module is version 1.0.6629. Please be sure that your kernel" |
| [05:27:00] | render1: | do you still have the bin file for those newer drivers? |
| [05:27:00] | a1cypher: | yes |
| [05:27:00] | render1: | if you execute that --help |
| [05:27:00] | render1: | if should tell you how to remove everything |
| [05:27:00] | render1: | i can't remember what the exact option is |
| [05:28:00] | a1cypher: | yah, found it.. it was hidden though.. had to do --advanced-options to find it |
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| [05:31:00] | render1: | then make sure the nvidia module is not loaded (rmmod nvidia) then emerge =/media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0–6629 |
| [05:31:00] | a1cypher: | ok.. done that |
| [05:31:00] | a1cypher: | and now it says (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module! |
| [05:31:00] | render1: | hrm |
| [05:32:00] | a1cypher: | what do I put in the xorg.conf for Driver? right now I have Driver "nvidia" |
| [05:32:00] | render1: | thats correct |
| [05:32:00] | a1cypher: | ok. |
| [05:32:00] | a1cypher: | do I need anything special to be compiled into the kernel? |
| [05:33:00] | render1: | naw |
| [05:34:00] | render1: | hrmm, maybe try something newer |
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| [05:34:00] | EnterUserName: | hi all |
| [05:34:00] | render1: | hi |
| [05:34:00] | EnterUserName: | how do you renew your subscription with Zapit |
| [05:34:00] | EnterUserName: | m,ines going to expire |
| [05:34:00] | EnterUserName: | on the 28th |
| [05:34:00] | EnterUserName: | of january |
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| [05:34:00] | Chutt: | they send you an email. |
| [05:35:00] | EnterUserName: | after how long? |
| [05:35:00] | render1: | i think they automatically have a link to renew, you just hafve to do a survey |
| [05:35:00] | EnterUserName: | oh when do they send it to you? H ow long till the day? |
| [05:35:00] | Chutt: | a week or so before it expires. |
| [05:35:00] | EnterUserName: | how do i confirm which email i used? |
| [05:35:00] | EnterUserName: | on zapit |
| [05:35:00] | Chutt: | log in? |
| [05:35:00] | EnterUserName: | oh ok |
| [05:35:00] | EnterUserName: | whats thje site again :) |
| [05:35:00] | render1: | a1cypher: try nvidia-glx-1.0.7676-r1 |
| [05:35:00] | Chutt: | look it up in the docs. |
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| [05:37:00] | a1cypher: | I am re-emerging media-video/nvidia-kernel |
| [05:37:00] | a1cypher: | that's probably it |
| [05:37:00] | SlicerDicer--: | kormoc: are you around buddy |
| [05:37:00] | kormoc: | hihi |
| [05:37:00] | SlicerDicer--: | I got a serious problem |
| [05:37:00] | SlicerDicer--: | hey kormoc I just had a disaster :/ |
| [05:37:00] | kormoc: | ooh? |
| [05:37:00] | SlicerDicer--: | I had a power failure.... |
| [05:37:00] | kormoc: | yeah? |
| [05:37:00] | SlicerDicer--: | now /myth/store does not exist on my machine |
| [05:37:00] | SlicerDicer--: | database wont come up and a buncha shit is missing? |
| [05:37:00] | a1cypher: | ok.. now X is running, but since I had my primary screen hooked up to TV out... |
| [05:37:00] | SlicerDicer--: | did my LVM go crazy? |
| [05:37:00] | a1cypher: | I don't see anything |
| [05:38:00] | Cardoe: | SlicerDicer-: yes |
| [05:38:00] | kormoc: | might have, what's the filesystems? |
| [05:38:00] | Cardoe: | SlicerDicer-: try checking the filesystem |
| [05:38:00] | SlicerDicer--: | err jfs I think |
| [05:38:00] | Cardoe: | fsck it |
| [05:38:00] | Chutt: | Cardoe, gentoo never added anything to faad.h to indicate that it's a modified version, did they? |
| [05:38:00] | kormoc: | do you have the /dev/vg/* ? |
| [05:38:00] | a1cypher: | render1: Do you use TVout with that driver? |
| [05:38:00] | SlicerDicer--: | yeah kormoc I do |
| [05:39:00] | render1: | no |
| [05:39:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: don't think so. |
| [05:39:00] | Cardoe: | I'll check if you like. |
| [05:39:00] | Chutt: | hrmph |
| [05:39:00] | kormoc: | SlicerDicer-, then yeah, fsck it and see if it becomes happy |
| [05:39:00] | Chutt: | can you? |
| [05:39:00] | Cardoe: | sure |
| [05:39:00] | render1: | http://gentoo-wiki.com/TV-Out_with_GeForce. |
| [05:39:00] | Chutt: | check for the __STDC_LIMIT_MACROS define, too |
| [05:39:00] | Chutt: | i might be able to key off of that |
| [05:40:00] | Cardoe: | it's in there |
| [05:40:00] | Chutt: | changing types without changing a define somewhere isn't cool :p |
| [05:40:00] | Cardoe: | #define __STDC_LIMIT_MACROS |
| [05:40:00] | Cardoe: | #define FAAD2_VERSION "2.0 " |
| [05:40:00] | Chutt: | upstream is 2.0 as well |
| [05:40:00] | kormoc: | with spaces? |
| [05:40:00] | Chutt: | maybe not |
| [05:41:00] | Chutt: | but i don't think checking for the number of spaces in the version define will work across distros :p |
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| [05:41:00] | kormoc: | heh, fair nuff :P |
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| [05:42:00] | SlicerDicer--: | fark |
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| [05:42:00] | a1cypher: | hazaaa... TV out back and running.. now lets see if this fixes my prebuffering nonsense |
| [05:43:00] | Cardoe: | SlicerDicer-: ? |
| [05:43:00] | a1cypher: | Sweet.. thanks render1. no more prebuffering pauses |
| [05:43:00] | render1: | grin, thank kormoc |
| [05:43:00] | Cardoe: | so.. |
| [05:43:00] | Cardoe: | ivtv works for PPC upstream now. |
| [05:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe: ohh just realised I cant pvt msg cause I had not idented |
| [05:44:00] | Cardoe: | now I guess I'm responsible for maintaining it. :( |
| [05:45:00] | dtm: | Cardoe: \o/ |
| [05:45:00] | dtm: | Cardoe: are you a ppc dev? i'm just getting to mythtv on ppc |
| [05:45:00] | dtm: | Cardoe: with pvrusb2 |
| [05:45:00] | Cardoe: | dtm: ha good luck |
| [05:45:00] | Cardoe: | dtm: what video card do you have? |
| [05:45:00] | Cardoe: | There's a PPC box in my living room |
| [05:45:00] | Cardoe: | I guess that makes me a PPC dev. |
| [05:45:00] | dtm: | Cardoe: they just released the backend for macos and they already had the frontend. |
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| [05:46:00] | Chutt: | they did? |
| [05:46:00] | dtm: | Cardoe: i would use an intel compatible frontend which has a geforce 4 440mx |
| [05:46:00] | Chutt: | the backend still doesn't do much on macos. |
| [05:46:00] | dtm: | Cardoe: my powerbook backend has an ATI Rage LT Pro 4MB though. |
| [05:46:00] | dtm: | Chutt: all i need the backend to do is copy the stream to the net and change the channel |
| [05:46:00] | Chutt: | and i'm not sure where you're going to get the driver for the pvrusb2 from |
| [05:46:00] | dtm: | Chutt: i need no encoding or stream processing |
| [05:47:00] | Chutt: | or the myth support for it. |
| [05:47:00] | dtm: | Chutt: what? |
| [05:47:00] | dtm: | from the intenret |
| [05:47:00] | Chutt: | the encoding and stream processing parts are the _easy_ ones. |
| [05:47:00] | dtm: | where you get all drivers |
| [05:47:00] | Chutt: | there's a myth compatible pvrusb2 driver for osx? |
| [05:47:00] | dtm: | i dont know why you'd wonder where the driver is from |
| [05:47:00] | ** GreyFoxx giggles ** | |
| [05:47:00] | dtm: | Chutt: i have no idea. i'm using a linux backend. |
| [05:47:00] | kormoc: | dtm, link to the driver? |
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| [05:48:00] | dtm: | kormoc: http://www.isely.net/pvrusb2.html |
| [05:48:00] | Chutt: | uh |
| [05:48:00] | dtm: | and #pvrusb2 |
| [05:48:00] | Chutt: | that's for linux |
| [05:48:00] | dtm: | right. we use linux drivers on linux, around these here parts |
| [05:48:00] | Chutt: | yeah, so why'd you mention macos? |
| [05:48:00] | kormoc: | <dtm> Cardoe: they just released the backend for macos and they already had the frontend. |
| [05:48:00] | dtm: | because it's ppc based, so it'll have somehting in common with ppc linux. |
| [05:49:00] | dtm: | it had failed due to asm |
| [05:49:00] | Chutt: | errr |
| [05:49:00] | Chutt: | no |
| [05:49:00] | s34n: | what are the pros & cons of hauppauge 150 vs 150 MCE? (under linux) |
| [05:49:00] | Chutt: | the patch to get the backend running on macos didn't touch any asm code |
| [05:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | s34n: The main diff is one comes with a remote and one doesn't |
| [05:49:00] | kormoc: | s34n, mce has a fm tuner and no remote, the nonmce has a remote and no fm tuner |
| [05:49:00] | Chutt: | afaik, the backend worked on linux-ppc years ago |
| [05:49:00] | dtm: | Chutt: i have no use for asm or anything else that's hardware specific |
| [05:50:00] | dtm: | Chutt: ok cool |
| [05:50:00] | Chutt: | including bttv support |
| [05:50:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: well ivtv didn't work on PPC |
| [05:50:00] | dtm: | i'll maybe have to get cvs code or something. i dunno. but the SRPM from atrpms just wouldn't build due to asm. |
| [05:50:00] | Chutt: | right |
| [05:50:00] | dtm: | but it was a big bundle |
| [05:50:00] | Cardoe: | cause you damn crack monkeys just using "char x;" |
| [05:50:00] | dtm: | so i dont know why it used asm. |
| [05:51:00] | Chutt: | Cardoe, heh |
| [05:51:00] | Chutt: | barely anyone knows about that |
| [05:51:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, so why exactly is that bad? |
| [05:51:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: I didn't either until I got this PPC board. |
| [05:51:00] | Cardoe: | don't worry |
| [05:51:00] | Chutt: | regardless, myth on osx doesn't have terribly much to do with myth on linux-ppc. |
| [05:51:00] | s34n: | the WinTV401 seems to have more features for lower price. What's the catch? |
| [05:51:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: because apparently only on x86 does "char" default to "signed char" |
| [05:51:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: all other arches it's "unsigned char" |
| [05:51:00] | Chutt: | Cardoe, it's more than that |
| [05:52:00] | Cardoe: | It's also the amount of memory |
| [05:52:00] | Chutt: | and lots of places it doesn't matter, or people used uint8_t |
| [05:53:00] | s34n: | kormoc: any experience with the WinTV401? |
| [05:53:00] | a1cypher: | render1: One more thing and my mythbox will be *perfect*. I don't suppose you have the ir blaster working? |
| [05:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe: everything is good now :) |
| [05:53:00] | kormoc: | s34n, sadly, not, sorry. |
| [05:54:00] | render1: | a1cypher: nope, i'm using the hauppauge grey remote... |
| [05:56:00] | render1: | try http://www.irblaster.info/ |
| [05:57:00] | a1cypher: | I am using the gray remote too |
| [05:57:00] | a1cypher: | doesn't your hauppauge have an irblaster built into the little dongle that pugs into the back? |
| [05:58:00] | dtm: | a1cypher: mine does |
| [05:58:00] | dtm: | i haven't usedi t |
| [05:58:00] | ** dtm sports a shiny new pvrusb2 ** | |
| [05:58:00] | render1: | if that's what it's called i suppose i do, just a lil ir eye |
| [05:58:00] | dtm: | word up to mciseley |
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| [06:55:00] | therp: | can anyone recommend a cheap setup box that can connect to mythtv and play mpeg4? (that excludes haupauge's mediamvp) |
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| [06:58:00] | SteveDaniels: | Hmmf, Chutt deleted MythUnofficialPatches from the wiki, there looked to be some very interesting stuff in there! |
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| [07:06:00] | a1cypher: | Hey, where do I put a firmware file so that hotplug will recognize it? |
| [07:06:00] | a1cypher: | I am in gentoo |
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| [07:10:00] | dtm: | a1cypher: there are a number of locations such as /usr/local/lib/firmware |
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| [07:29:00] | dtm: | is it generally most advisable for experienced linux users who are mythtv noobs to start with cvs? |
| [07:30:00] | nick125: | not in my opinion |
| [07:31:00] | dtm: | nick125: i will be building the backend on ppc so i wondered if ppc is bleeding edge |
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| [07:32:00] | nick125: | i would suggest you first get used to the releases, then you could start with CVS, because, CVS code might get messy and might not work at times |
| [07:32:00] | quink: | Is the cvs.mythtv.org roadmap an accurate timeline of releases? |
| [07:33:00] | GexNZ: | I am attempting to get mythtv running on gentoo. I have a channel displayed on the screen but no sound. If I open tvtime then sound in mythtv works (but echoed by the 2 second delay). As soon as I close it mythtv sound stops also. any ideas? |
| [07:34:00] | nick125: | GexNZ: what TV tunner card? |
| [07:34:00] | GexNZ: | bt |
| [07:35:00] | GexNZ: | well i'm using the bttv driver |
| [07:35:00] | GexNZ: | the actual card is a leadtek tv200x0p |
| [07:35:00] | GexNZ: | tv200xp * |
| [07:35:00] | GexNZ: | tv2000xp * phew |
| [07:36:00] | Agrajag-: | GexNZ: you need to read the docs |
| [07:37:00] | Agrajag-: | GexNZ: specifically, the part which tells you to mute line in and set it to record |
| [07:38:00] | GexNZ: | line in is muted and capture is in alsa |
| [07:39:00] | Agrajag-: | it's not set to capture |
| [07:39:00] | Agrajag-: | and you'll find that tvtime is unmuting it, hence you hearing it |
| [07:41:00] | GexNZ: | ah thanks. tvtime was doing just as you said. thanks agrajag- |
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| [08:26:00] | juski: | mornin' |
| [08:28:00] | Agrajag-: | evenin |
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| [08:38:00] | Daedalus_: | The debian package maintainer seems to have ceased to maintain his packages (as of novemberish). Has a new repository been created, or do debian users have to compile from scratch now? |
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| [08:42:00] | KerPlunk: | Is there a repository for debian that has newer packages then debian does? |
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| [08:50:00] | Agrajag-: | Daedalus_: did you post to the mailing list about that? |
| [08:52:00] | dasOp: | daedalus: marillat |
| [08:52:00] | dasOp: | there are mythtv packages for unstable there |
| [08:52:00] | dasOp: | and if you use stable, you'll atleast get all prereq's there so you can compile yourself easily |
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| [08:53:00] | dasOp: | http://debian.video.free.fr/ |
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| [09:06:00] | Daedalus_: | dasOp: ah marillat. Much appreciated. All the howto's (as well as the debian infobot) mentioned the closed down repo. I updated the infobot. |
| [09:07:00] | dasOp: | so if you use sid, you can just install from there |
| [09:07:00] | dasOp: | works grand for me |
| [09:07:00] | Daedalus_: | Right. Already done. Thanks much :) |
| [09:08:00] | dasOp: | I had to go testing or sid cause 2.6.15 killed devfs which the sarge initrd depends on to launch lvm |
| [09:10:00] | Daedalus_: | D'oh |
| [09:11:00] | dasOp: | and my card just would work fine with the 2.6.8 that sarge uses |
| [09:11:00] | dasOp: | *wouldnt |
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| [09:17:00] | Daedalus_: | Well, I'm off to bed. Thanks for the help all. |
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| [10:31:00] | Filip^: | Would anyone here think that a dual P3/800 with a PVR350 is somehow underspecced for a mythtv backend? Is a single P3/800 enough for the frontend, or is decoding the hardest part in that setup? |
| [10:32:00] | Merlin83b: | Plenty for the backend if you're using a PVR card. |
| [10:32:00] | Merlin83b: | Not sure on the frontend – will you have any kind of hardware decoder available? |
| [10:34:00] | Filip^: | no, unless my GeForce 5700 can do that |
| [10:34:00] | malaTG: | I think that it will be enough I myself use a P3 733 with a pvr150 without any problems for both frontend a backend...... |
| [10:35:00] | malaTG: | and a geforce 4 mx 440 |
| [10:35:00] | Filip^: | There's no hardware decoding on a PVR150, is there? |
| [10:35:00] | malaTG: | no |
| [10:35:00] | Filip^: | Well, that answers that question already |
| [10:35:00] | Filip^: | Do AGP cards do hardware mpg decoding? |
| [10:36:00] | Filip^: | or is that the domain of the PVRs? |
| [10:36:00] | malaTG: | I think so however I am not sure |
| [10:36:00] | Filip^: | I guess I'll have to try. |
| [10:36:00] | malaTG: | |
| [10:36:00] | Filip^: | when you're decoding? |
| [10:37:00] | Filip^: | Then your card must be taking some of that load |
| [10:37:00] | malaTG: | exactly |
| [10:37:00] | Filip^: | Thanks |
| [10:37:00] | malaTG: | np |
| [10:38:00] | malaTG: | oppp sry checked it 40 % :-) |
| [10:39:00] | Filip^: | well, same difference |
| [10:39:00] | malaTG: | yea :-) |
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| [10:58:00] | juski: | who wrote mythlink? just want to say... nice :) |
| [10:58:00] | juski: | very handy! |
| [10:59:00] | sona: | whats that ? |
| [11:00:00] | tanq: | what is mythlink |
| [11:03:00] | juski: | mythlink is a script that goes through your recorded programmes directory & makes symlinks to the files, but with nice names |
| [11:04:00] | Merlin83b: | Ooh yeah, that is good. |
| [11:04:00] | juski: | google for mythlink to find it.. I used the one which was posted on the mailing list last year.. most spiffy |
| [11:04:00] | Merlin83b: | I just kind of accepted that it worked :-) |
| [11:05:00] | juski: | one I found at parkers.co.uk (or whatever) didn't work |
| [11:05:00] | Merlin83b: | KnoppMyth has it going from the start – I take it it's not part of the standard Myth installation then? |
| [11:06:00] | _willcooke_: | mornin |
| [11:06:00] | juski: | dunno.. could well be though.. it'd be in the contrib directory if it is |
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| [11:08:00] | _willcooke_: | Whats the legal situation with this... "I record something for a friend of the TV, and then lend him the tape" |
| [11:08:00] | mrproper_: | Anyone here know why when i run: mythtv$ /etc/init.d/mythbackent start ---> start-stop-daemon: Unable to set initgroups() with gid 1000 |
| [11:09:00] | mrproper_: | _willcooke_: i dont see a problem with it, if it was on free to air |
| [11:10:00] | _willcooke_: | That's good, I wonder what the deal would be with... "He FTP's it off my Myth box". A whole new kettle of fish? |
| [11:11:00] | mrproper_: | _willcooke_: i still dont see whats wrong with it provided it came from free to air, its not like anyone pays a subscription for access to content, and its essentially the same as a vcr, which under legal terms in most countries is allowed for 'personal use' |
| [11:12:00] | Merlin83b: | I don't think personal use includes lending it out. |
| [11:12:00] | Merlin83b: | A blind eye is turned to it but I don't think if push came to shove that it's legal. |
| [11:12:00] | mrproper_: | Merlin83b: but my point is, that its not like the other guy couldnt have done the same steps to get the content, so unless he was selling the recording i doubt theres any issues |
| [11:13:00] | _willcooke_: | Interesting. |
| [11:13:00] | Merlin83b: | As I said, a blind eye is turned. He could have recorded it himself but didn't. |
| [11:13:00] | Merlin83b: | I'm not certain, and ianal but I think it's illegal, strictly speaking. |
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| [11:19:00] | stuarta: | the idea of ftp'ng it then falls under filesharing, and thus a much bigger kettle of fish |
| [11:19:00] | juski: | I wouldn't do it.. and not only cos I like my upstream unclogged |
| [11:19:00] | stuarta: | me either. |
| [11:19:00] | juski: | you didn't/couldn't record something.. ya boo sucks.. not my problem :-D |
| [11:21:00] | ** stuarta is currently testing recording profiles. ** | |
| [11:26:00] | Chacabaou: | I just read the 'Idea for interlaced playback' thread. The discussion abruptly ended a month ago...is opengl output about to come into mythtv? |
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| [11:40:00] | juski: | Chacabaou: I wouldn't say 'about to' as such.. but the work on the gui becoming opengl based in already underway (so I hear) |
| [11:41:00] | juski: | but enough of this conjecture ;) |
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| [11:44:00] | juski: | any UK users here who have $ky happen to know when series 5 of '24' is coming? want to be ready for it :) |
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| [13:08:00] | znoG: | guys, i'm using ALSA and when I set audio to ALSA:default as per the HOWTO, it doesn't work |
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| [13:08:00] | znoG: | if I use /dev/dsp, it works, but I get messages in dmesg saying "mythbackend/mythfrontend are using obsolete OSS interface" |
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| [13:09:00] | fryfrog: | you sure you are putting it in the right place? |
| [13:09:00] | fryfrog: | i don't have mine in front of me, but it is non-obvious :/ |
| [13:09:00] | fryfrog: | you also need to put like "ALSA:mixer" or just "mixer" in for the mixer |
| [13:09:00] | fryfrog: | or something |
| [13:10:00] | paulkoan: | Hi all |
| [13:10:00] | paulkoan: | I am using 18.1, and while channel-up doesn't change the channel automatically, typing a channel does without select |
| [13:11:00] | znoG: | fryfrog: hrm ok i'll try that... |
| [13:11:00] | fryfrog: | its been a while, so i may have it wrong :) |
| [13:11:00] | fryfrog: | but i KNOW if you have ALSA:default you have to use the alsa mixer |
| [13:11:00] | paulkoan: | With channel-up, it just changes the infobar, and I have to hit select. Any one seen this before? |
| [13:12:00] | paulkoan: | 18.1 btw |
| [13:13:00] | juski: | just off the top of my head, you |
| [13:13:00] | juski: | 'vegot livetv to 'always use browse mode' |
| [13:14:00] | juski: | deselect that and you'll be able to change channels without having to press SELECT |
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| [13:20:00] | paulkoan: | juski: thanks, I thought I had tried that, but I'll give it another go, once I figure out why it died the moment you told me. |
| [13:21:00] | juski: | started reworking my theme again – got over my little bout of negativity :) |
| [13:22:00] | juski: | I dunno how the devs stay on top of what they do and still stay motivated especially in light of all the negative comments people make – they have my utmost respect |
| [13:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
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| [13:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | and some people get really righteous and whiny when they have a problem |
| [13:24:00] | fryfrog: | there are always negative comments, its just fun to blast em :) |
| [13:24:00] | juski: | I know I've seen... if someone got that negative about stuff I did I think I'd throw in the towel |
| [13:24:00] | fryfrog: | (in any project) |
| [13:24:00] | fryfrog: | nah, you wouldn't |
| [13:25:00] | fryfrog: | cause when you saw everyone coming to your side and beating up the bastards you'd feel all warm and fuzzy inside, like when you swallow a cat |
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| [13:25:00] | juski: | heh.. |
| [13:26:00] | fryfrog: | I just wish that they used a forum instead of mailing list :/ |
| [13:26:00] | fryfrog: | though gossamer threads is decent for searching |
| [13:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | God no, if it turned into a forum I would never see it or read it |
| [13:27:00] | fryfrog: | reading the email list is almost identical to forums... |
| [13:27:00] | znoG: | fryfrog: ah, setting the mixer to just "default" did it! |
| [13:27:00] | fryfrog: | its replying and posting that are annoying with email list |
| [13:27:00] | juski: | people tend to go OT more on forums.. thread hijacking & stuff |
| [13:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | Email I can archive, sort however I want, take offline, I don't need to have a browser to see it, I know when a new message comes in, etc etc |
| [13:28:00] | fryfrog: | znoG: ahhhh, good call |
| [13:28:00] | juski: | Email can be ignored more easily too :) |
| [13:28:00] | fryfrog: | do you subscribe to those mailing lists? |
| [13:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | fryfrog: Who are you asking? Me ? |
| [13:28:00] | fryfrog: | anyone |
| [13:28:00] | fryfrog: | but sure, you :) |
| [13:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | I certainly do |
| [13:28:00] | juski: | I'm going to unsubscribe from the noobers list soon |
| [13:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | all of the myth lists |
| [13:28:00] | juski: | again |
| [13:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | -users -dev and -commits |
| [13:28:00] | fryfrog: | they *look* like really high traffic |
| [13:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | They can be |
| [13:28:00] | juski: | all the stupid questions get on my tits |
| [13:29:00] | fryfrog: | anyone use gmail? |
| [13:29:00] | laga: | -users has so much traffic. most useless stuff. |
| [13:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | and if you are using an email client without some sort of sorting filter then it's time to find a new client |
| [13:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: unfortunately yeah |
| [13:29:00] | fryfrog: | does anyone know the way you can do like "fryfrog-mythtv@gmail.com "? |
| [13:29:00] | fryfrog: | so you can use a "unique" email address that auto-goes to the same account? its an email spec, but i don' recall what its called |
| [13:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | I skip most threads unless I see a participant I know that usually has insightful comments or the subject looks interesting |
| [13:29:00] | juski: | will hardware A work with B & C? Can I ask a metaquestion here? ;) |
| [13:30:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: i just receive it, but i almost never look thru it |
| [13:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | fryfrog: I do that for most lists I'm on as well as most sites Ihave to signup for |
| [13:30:00] | fryfrog: | what is the format, do you recall? |
| [13:30:00] | juski: | and "when will there be a windows frontend for mythtv"... lol |
| [13:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: I sort by thread, then CTRL-D to kill the thread if I don't like it |
| [13:30:00] | znoG: | fryfrog: what I do find is that audio that comes straight from the cable feed is good quality, but once it is encoded by mythtv, the quality degrades quite a bit |
| [13:30:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: what MUA? |
| [13:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | fryfrog: I use mail aliases as i run my own mail server/domain |
| [13:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: Mutt |
| [13:31:00] | fryfrog: | ah, thats not *quite* what i meant |
| [13:31:00] | fryfrog: | some how you can use "<gmail username>+anytexthere" |
| [13:31:00] | fryfrog: | or something |
| [13:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | "o t" to sort by thread, "CTRL-D" to mark as deleted |
| [13:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: Makes running through large mailing lists trivial |
| [13:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | fryfrog: No idea how gmail does their thing |
| [13:32:00] | juski: | methinks I'll opt to stop receiving mail, but stay subscribed so I can still post |
| [13:32:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: sounds cool. i should find out if thunderbird can do a similar thing ;) |
| [13:32:00] | juski: | gmail is ok... haven't yet found out how to filter into folders yet, but it threads conversations automatically |
| [13:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | whenI'm done, "o u" to go back to unsorted |
| [13:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [13:33:00] | jam: | fryfrog, just use the address and it'll work i imagine |
| [13:33:00] | ** GreyFoxx hugs procmail for sorting his mail ** | |
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| [13:33:00] | jam: | it's an option on mail handlers, i work for a uni and wee've implemented it there as wel |
| [13:33:00] | juski: | laga: thunderbird can show everything by thread.. it still gets out of hand though |
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| [13:33:00] | fryfrog: | jam: i just can't figure out what the gmail's seperator is |
| [13:34:00] | jam: | i thought it was + |
| [13:34:00] | laga: | juski: yep. i think i'm gonna use my gmail account for mythtv-users. i yet have to find out how i can move incoming messages to their own folder in there so it won't clutter up my inbox. is this even possible with gmail? |
| [13:34:00] | fryfrog: | when i send my self emails with "+text here" it doesn't work :/ |
| [13:34:00] | jam: | i think that's even rfc defined |
| [13:34:00] | jam: | ahh :( |
| [13:34:00] | fryfrog: | could anyone send an email to "fryfrog+text@gmail.com " maybe for meh? |
| [13:34:00] | fryfrog: | if i use – or %, it bounces |
| [13:34:00] | fryfrog: | but + never bounces or comes in :/ |
| [13:35:00] | juski: | laga: been trying to fettle it to do that.. doesn't appear that it can though |
| [13:35:00] | juski: | though you can use it with a traditional POP client... then that kinda defeats the object of it all being online |
| [13:35:00] | laga: | juski: yep, sad |
| [13:36:00] | fryfrog: | jam: do you know what that is called? i'm not even sure what to search for |
| [13:36:00] | jam: | sorry, i was just away reading http://groups.google.com/group/GMusers/browse . . . 3a573bf39bc9 |
| [13:36:00] | jam: | which is prolly of someuse |
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| [13:37:00] | juski: | time to go book some more disks out of stores :-/ |
| [13:38:00] | jam: | fryfrog, it doesn't auto-create a folder or soemthign for it does it? |
| [13:38:00] | fryfrog: | humm |
| [13:39:00] | fryfrog: | okay, thats weird |
| [13:39:00] | fryfrog: | it shows up under all mail |
| [13:39:00] | fryfrog: | but not in my inbox :/ |
| [13:39:00] | jam: | anyhow, i have to go back to work, but use "suffix" for searching |
| [13:39:00] | jam: | it may get auto tagged as something |
| [13:39:00] | jam: | ttfn, and good luck |
| [13:40:00] | juski: | one issue I can see with google mail is in the main messages view the 'report as spam' clicky would be too easy to hit by mistake |
| [13:40:00] | juski: | and reporting ML mails as spam would do great harm |
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| [13:45:00] | darkfrog: | I recorded some shows off my mythbox and then moved them to another drive. I need to delete these shows, but I'd like my mythbox to re-record them. I can't seem to find them in the oldrecorded or recorded tables....would the information be stored somewhere else? |
| [13:47:00] | darkfrog: | after I copied them off the mythbox I told the mythbox to delete them, but now I don't want it to explicitly not re-record the show (they are episodes in a series) |
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| [13:58:00] | znoG: | darkfrog: i thought when you press the right arrow key on a show, it gives you a bunch of options, one which says delete but allow to re-record, or something along those lines. |
| [13:59:00] | darkfrog: | it does....I'm saying I hit "Delete" instead of "Delete and allow re-record" and I want to make it re-record. |
| [14:00:00] | znoG: | oh, right. |
| [14:02:00] | znoG: | sorry, no idea how to reactivate it. |
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| [14:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | I believe under the Schedule menu there is a previously recorded item |
| [14:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | if you are under there and highlight an episode fo the show you might be able to remove all occurances of that show from old recorded |
| [14:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | then myth will never know you have previously recorded it |
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| [14:14:00] | darkfrog: | GreyFoxx, where is the information in the database though? |
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| [14:15:00] | darkfrog: | GreyFoxx, if I have to I can do it the way you suggested, but I'm trying to do it directly from the database as I think it will make it faster as I have a lot of recordings to go through. |
| [14:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | darkfrog: the oldrecorded table |
| [14:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | "delete from oldrecorded;" would wipe the history of everything you have recorded in myth |
| [14:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | current recordings are still in the recorded table and shouldn't be affected |
| [14:18:00] | darkfrog: | GreyFoxx, hehe, well I don't want to go that extreme. :o |
| [14:18:00] | darkfrog: | old recorded should have a list of all shows that have been deleted but not told to re-record? |
| [14:18:00] | darkfrog: | I can't seem to find these shows in the list... |
| [14:19:00] | darkfrog: | I moved them off several months ago |
| [14:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | dark It's has a list of all previously recorded shows |
| [14:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't know whether there is a special flag for ones you have told it to not rerecord or not. I just know that it is the source of the historical recording info |
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| [14:21:00] | darkfrog: | so if I deleted all the entries in oldrecorded for a tv series then it wouldn't lose track of anything currently on the mythbox, it would just re-record any episodes that have been deleted? |
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| [14:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | "<GreyFoxx> current recordings are still in the recorded table and shouldn't be affected |
| [14:23:00] | darkfrog: | just making sure. ;) |
| [14:23:00] | darkfrog: | thanks |
| [14:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | of course, backup your database before you ever manipulate it manually |
| [14:23:00] | darkfrog: | hehe |
| [14:23:00] | darkfrog: | that instills a lot of confidence in me. :o |
| [14:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | fat fingers can easily fsck up a database :) |
| [14:24:00] | darkfrog: | hehe |
| [14:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use database daily for the last 6 years, and I still do dumps most of the time I go in there |
| [14:24:00] | ** darkfrog looks at his fingers ** | |
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| [14:26:00] | darkfrog: | GreyFoxx, thanks for the assistance. :) |
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| [14:26:00] | stealth: | I keep getting Table 'mythconverg.settings' doesn't exist when running mythsetup and there is NO logs about it in /var/log/mysql/mysql.err |
| [14:26:00] | znoG: | GreyFoxx: you've been using mythtv for 6 years? |
| [14:26:00] | fryfrog: | i'll he said databases |
| [14:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | znoG: databases. MySQL, postgres, Oracle, etc |
| [14:26:00] | fryfrog: | not myth :) |
| [14:26:00] | darkfrog: | znoG, I think he was referring to monkeying around in a database. :-p |
| [14:27:00] | znoG: | oh, just any db |
| [14:27:00] | fryfrog: | I have rsnapshot do hourly / daily / weekly backups of db (and files) |
| [14:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | Myth since sometime late in 2002/early 20003 I think |
| [14:27:00] | znoG: | it was usable back then? |
| [14:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | fryfrog: I use mysql replication to my backup machine, which is rsynced to another machine and that gets dumped to tape. Plus I do nightly sql dumps and keep 10 days of backups on the drive if need be |
| [14:28:00] | darkfrog: | l8r guys, and thanks again GreyFoxx |
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| [14:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | znoG: Of course |
| [14:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | Obviously it's a very different beast now |
| [14:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | but it was usable |
| [14:29:00] | stealth: | ::sigh:: |
| [14:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | And once the ivtv/pvr250's came along everything got much better |
| [14:29:00] | sphing: | GreyFoxx: thats insane |
| [14:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | cause then I could retire the tired old bttv cards |
| [14:29:00] | znoG: | yea i'm still stuck with a framegrabber, but I plan on getting a pvr one day |
| [14:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | stealth lemme guess, still the same table creation problem ? |
| [14:30:00] | znoG: | stealth: i installed mythtv from svn just recently and the settings table got created along with the rest |
| [14:30:00] | stealth: | GreyFoxx, yes |
| [14:30:00] | stealth: | znoG, lucky |
| [14:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | and have you looked at mysql logs to see where it's stopping like I mentioned ? |
| [14:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | to try and figure out what is failing ? |
| [14:31:00] | stealth: | yep.. nothing in the lgos |
| [14:31:00] | stealth: | logs |
| [14:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | You must see the create statements or something, if not then the logs are not turned on |
| [14:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | I would imagine they are off by default for most people |
| [14:32:00] | stealth: | I do so logs.. just nothing about myth |
| [14:32:00] | stealth: | like 060116 23:35:50 InnoDB: Started; log sequence number 0 43759 |
| [14:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | Hehe |
| [14:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | log into mysql as the mythtv user from the commandline |
| [14:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | do an sql statement |
| [14:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | then check the logs and see if you see it |
| [14:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | ummm and you are looking at the sql log right? Not just the error log? |
| [14:33:00] | stealth: | would that be mysql.log ? |
| [14:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | Cause the error log is for mysql failures (drive access, permissions, etc) |
| [14:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | it doesn't log sql errors |
| [14:34:00] | stealth: | in /var/log/mysql i have mysql.err mysql.log and mysqld.err |
| [14:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | stealth sounds likely |
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| [14:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | likely mysql.log |
| [14:34:00] | stealth: | yea theres nothing in that file |
| [14:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | so logging isn't on |
| [14:37:00] | stealth: | is there a command to turn it on or is this somthign in /etc/my.cnf ? |
| [14:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | my.cnf |
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| [14:37:00] | stealth: | gottcha |
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| [14:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm 99% sure it requires a mysqld restart to become effective. I don't think there is a HUP or mysqladmin copmmand to read the config but I could be wrong there |
| [14:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | I have logging on all the time so I rarely have to switch it on or off |
| [14:38:00] | znoG: | mysqladmin reload ? |
| [14:39:00] | Merlin83b: | Nope, needs a restart. |
| [14:39:00] | stealth: | and that would just be the "log" statement? seems i have a log-error already. log=/var/log/mysql/mysql.sql.err ? |
| [14:39:00] | znoG: | actually that just reloads the grant tables |
| [14:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | stealth: YEah, just "log" |
| [14:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | znoG: yeah, reload is equivalent to flush privileges; |
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| [14:47:00] | adante: | is it possible to apply transcodes via mythtv? |
| [14:47:00] | adante: | hurr, i mean mythweb |
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| [14:48:00] | stuarta: | only via a recording schedule. |
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| [15:07:00] | stealth: | GreyFoxx, http://home.earthlink.net/~wing549/mysql-sql.log |
| [15:07:00] | stealth: | thats running mythsetup |
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| [15:08:00] | Merlin83b: | Grr, still lots of prebuffering pauses. |
| [15:09:00] | Merlin83b: | SVN 8625 |
| [15:09:00] | juski: | Merlin83b: yeah but is playback okay? |
| [15:09:00] | Merlin83b: | Not really, the prebuffering pauses are matched by little pauses in the playback. |
| [15:09:00] | Merlin83b: | Although FE is using lots and lots of CPU. |
| [15:09:00] | Merlin83b: | Not sure why, XvMC seems to be working. |
| [15:10:00] | sphing_: | Merlin83b: grep through the XFree or Xorg logs for xvmc and drm |
| [15:10:00] | juski: | could well be time to ask if anyone else is using an EPIA board with SVN |
| [15:10:00] | sphing_: | and make sre its working |
| [15:10:00] | sphing_: | juski: non svn |
| [15:10:00] | sphing_: | *not |
| [15:10:00] | sphing_: | out of curiousity why....? |
| [15:11:00] | Merlin83b: | I'm using an Epia. |
| [15:11:00] | etnoy: | how quick is myth with older hardware? |
| [15:11:00] | sphing_: | define quick and define old |
| [15:11:00] | Merlin83b: | Heh. |
| [15:11:00] | juski: | in 0.18 I get 15% CPU usage with XVMC enabled on my EPIA f/e |
| [15:12:00] | etnoy: | I have set up a dev box which runs myth svn, but even going through menus is very slow |
| [15:12:00] | sphing_: | hehe... my backend is a p3 500 |
| [15:12:00] | etnoy: | it is a pII 350 |
| [15:12:00] | Merlin83b: | juski: Yeah, usage stayed much lower before I used svn. |
| [15:12:00] | etnoy: | it is only running a frontend |
| [15:12:00] | znoG: | are there any requirements for XvMC to work? |
| [15:12:00] | juski: | znoG: yeh – graphics hardware that supports it |
| [15:12:00] | znoG: | ah, right, that's what I was after. |
| [15:13:00] | stuarta: | and xvmc libs to support the hardware. |
| [15:13:00] | Merlin83b: | I guess I'll have a bot more of an investigate later so I can post a more informed mail to the lists. |
| [15:13:00] | znoG: | any way to know if a card supports it? |
| [15:13:00] | juski: | ATI doesn't.. most nvidia does.. Via Unichrome _can_ |
| [15:13:00] | stuarta: | juski: Newer ATI's do... |
| [15:13:00] | juski: | do they? news to me |
| [15:14:00] | juski: | or should I say.. "at long last" |
| [15:14:00] | stuarta: | look at the specs of x1800 :) |
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| [15:14:00] | stuarta: | however, I'm don't think the drivers have caught up yet. |
| [15:14:00] | juski: | ATI have been helping decode mpeg2 since the year dot.. just not in linux |
| [15:15:00] | stuarta: | really? Most of the cards I've seen don't claim to do mpeg in hardware |
| [15:15:00] | etnoy: | is there any way to speed up menu browsing in the frontend? my slow hardware is a pain to even navigate in the menus with |
| [15:15:00] | stuarta: | except the most recent ones. |
| [15:15:00] | etnoy: | I don't use liveTV |
| [15:16:00] | juski: | I have an all-in-wonder PCI thingy that came with mpeg demo videos to demonstrate mpeg acceleration |
| [15:16:00] | fryfrog: | etnoy: there are a lot of settings related to quality you could adjust? |
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| [15:16:00] | fryfrog: | oh, wait that is for the EPG :/ |
| [15:16:00] | etnoy: | fryfrog: okay |
| [15:16:00] | juski: | etnoy: get faster hardware for your frontend ;) |
| [15:16:00] | stuarta: | ahh, the AIW cards always do... |
| [15:16:00] | etnoy: | juski: ;) |
| [15:16:00] | sphing_: | etnoy: a p2 is pretty old... are you using a good video card and using the hardware acceleration? |
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| [15:16:00] | etnoy: | juski: it is a dev box |
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| [15:16:00] | etnoy: | sphing_: yes drm and hardw/ acceleration is on |
| [15:17:00] | etnoy: | I don't watch TV, just do dev work on myth with it |
| [15:17:00] | etnoy: | using Ubuntu, is there any libraries that might speed up QT? |
| [15:17:00] | etnoy: | it seems too slow for menues |
| [15:17:00] | juski: | only one thing will speed up the GUI.. use a lower res or get better hardware |
| [15:17:00] | etnoy: | juski: okay |
| [15:17:00] | juski: | oops that was two things |
| [15:18:00] | juski: | that might all change when the GUI moves to opengl though |
| [15:18:00] | etnoy: | juski: okay, so it doesn't use GL now? |
| [15:19:00] | etnoy: | that would at least give me one heck of a speed increase, letting the weak cpu to be off-loaded by the GPU (which probably has a higher clock frequency :) |
| [15:19:00] | juski: | nope.. mostthe stuff is done with QT |
| [15:19:00] | etnoy: | juski: can QT be set to use opengl? or does it need to be rewritten? |
| [15:20:00] | juski: | if QT could be used with opengl I don't think anyone would be rewriting the GUI code |
| [15:20:00] | etnoy: | juski: okay, got that :) |
| [15:21:00] | etnoy: | on to another issue, on my primary (and fast :) myth box |
| [15:21:00] | etnoy: | I have three old zombie recordings, recordings that somewhen disappeared from the disk |
| [15:21:00] | etnoy: | they are still present in myth and cannot be deleted since the file cannot be found |
| [15:21:00] | juski: | easy |
| [15:21:00] | etnoy: | do I need to do a mysql command? |
| [15:21:00] | juski: | look in the backend log to find out the missing files' filenames |
| [15:22:00] | juski: | then create dummy files with those filenames |
| [15:22:00] | etnoy: | oh, and create dummy files. |
| [15:22:00] | etnoy: | creative ;) |
| [15:22:00] | juski: | then delete them in mythtv |
| [15:22:00] | juski: | safer than mangling your DB |
| [15:22:00] | etnoy: | I'll give that a shot, I just thought of a manual database update |
| [15:22:00] | etnoy: | yup |
| [15:23:00] | etnoy: | since I use 0.18.1 on the production box, how is LiveTV and myth in general in svn? |
| [15:23:00] | stuarta: | improving |
| [15:23:00] | juski: | etnoy: livetv is great. mythmusic is MUCH better |
| [15:23:00] | etnoy: | is it a breeze to use (except of bugs) |
| [15:23:00] | etnoy: | juski: mythmusic, that was good news |
| [15:23:00] | juski: | more niggles than bugs I think |
| [15:23:00] | etnoy: | I cried when trying to use it before :) |
| [15:23:00] | juski: | now takes a fraction of the time to load, and there's a really good search feature now |
| [15:24:00] | etnoy: | juski: so 0.19 might be quite close? |
| [15:24:00] | stuarta: | juski: Is mythmusic capable of handling a few thousand songs without crawling yet? |
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| [15:24:00] | etnoy: | of course, the issues in svn.mythtv.org need to be adressed |
| [15:24:00] | etnoy: | stuarta: ditto |
| [15:24:00] | ** etnoy wonders too ** | |
| [15:24:00] | juski: | stuarta: I've got thousands of files.. and it loads up in but a couple of secs in svn |
| [15:25:00] | stuarta: | More in terms of adding songs to a playlist |
| [15:25:00] | etnoy: | I think of switching to svn on the production box, but that requires that it is mostly crash-free as of now |
| [15:25:00] | etnoy: | is it still unstable? |
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| [15:25:00] | juski: | etnoy: the frontend was pretty stable, and I never made the backend fall over in a week of testing |
| [15:26:00] | etnoy: | 0.18.1 crashes a lot, so a few crashes per week would actually be an improvement |
| [15:26:00] | juski: | when I'm testing my theme edits, 0.18 segfaults more often |
| [15:26:00] | etnoy: | juski: that's great. |
| [15:26:00] | juski: | which isn't very often at all |
| [15:26:00] | etnoy: | okay |
| [15:26:00] | Merlin83b: | juski: (or anyone else for that matter) do you know where the setting (apparently db not menus) for Chromakey OSD is? |
| [15:26:00] | stealth: | im dong this http://home.earthlink.net/~wing549/mysql-sql.log |
| [15:26:00] | Merlin83b: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/172591 seems to point to that being likely and was posted ever so recently. |
| [15:26:00] | stuarta: | backend is rock solid, liveTV is just about there... |
| [15:27:00] | juski: | svn is pretty solid, but it depends if you get unlucky or not.. like with the recent DVB changes |
| [15:27:00] | ** stealth is unlucky ** | |
| [15:27:00] | juski: | Merlin83b: no idea.. probably the settings table.. and it has no primary key so you can't search it AFAIK |
| [15:27:00] | ** stuarta hands stealth the glue & sticky tape. ** | |
| [15:28:00] | Merlin83b: | I had a look in these. |
| [15:28:00] | Merlin83b: | there |
| [15:28:00] | stealth: | hand me a cranial c/c++/mysql info implant |
| [15:29:00] | stuarta: | that's the easy part. |
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| [15:29:00] | Kelerion: | stealth: what did you use to record that little mpeg? |
| [15:29:00] | stealth: | gvidcap |
| [15:29:00] | Kelerion: | ok – thanks |
| [15:29:00] | stealth: | set mpeg recording to 25 fps |
| [15:29:00] | stealth: | wont record in 10 |
| [15:29:00] | stealth: | will crash |
| [15:30:00] | stealth: | Kelerion, you wouldent know how to fix the problem in my little mpeg? |
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| [15:30:00] | juski: | wth? realtime desktop recording in MPEG? |
| [15:30:00] | ** juski googles gvidcap ** | |
| [15:30:00] | Kelerion: | you have more than one mysql server by any chance? |
| [15:31:00] | stealth: | negatory |
| [15:31:00] | stealth: | :( i want myth |
| [15:31:00] | Kelerion: | have you tried creating the table manually? |
| [15:32:00] | Kelerion: | I've never had to do that – but thats what I'd be trying next |
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| [15:32:00] | stealth: | i thought about it but i dont know what type to make the columns.. atleast correctly |
| [15:32:00] | juski: | hmmm that could have saved me a job with a capture card at the weekend.. :-/ |
| [15:32:00] | Kelerion: | one sec – will dump my table |
| [15:32:00] | stealth: | i know doing that is going to bite me in the arse |
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| [15:32:00] | stealth: | k, thanks |
| [15:33:00] | juski: | too late now though – the vid is there, A**L teens listing & all |
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| [15:33:00] | Kelerion: | http://pastebin.ca/37087 |
| [15:33:00] | stealth: | yea gvidcap is pretty cool.. next proj is to creates some 'linux professor' videos |
| [15:34:00] | stealth: | Kelerion, could you dump settings table also? |
| [15:34:00] | Kelerion: | juski: I was thinking the same when I saw his mpeg.. is pretty good quality |
| [15:34:00] | Kelerion: | that'd have all my settings in it.. but sure |
| [15:34:00] | stealth: | i was screwing aroudn with this vnc2swf but that was junk |
| [15:35:00] | Kelerion: | oh no it won't.. one sec |
| [15:35:00] | dagfinnr: | i have some channel freq in a list i get, and they are listed as xxx.xx mhz / Sx .. how do i get them working? |
| [15:35:00] | stealth: | Kelerion, id change them i just need the table |
| [15:35:00] | juski: | someone could do a bunch of mythtv tutorials... and NO I didn't just nominate myself... got enough on |
| [15:35:00] | dagfinnr: | juski, you using antenna/cable singals? or dvb? |
| [15:35:00] | stealth: | how about we break up seperate topics and each of us do one..? |
| [15:36:00] | juski: | dagfinnr: DVB & cable (via PVR150) |
| [15:36:00] | dagfinnr: | ok |
| [15:36:00] | Kelerion: | stealth: http://pastebin.ca/37088 |
| [15:36:00] | stealth: | im doing a firewire input with my sa stb 3250, ill make a video on it.. although id like to start from the beginning all the way through the finished program without creating this manuall but oh well |
| [15:36:00] | Kelerion: | thats the whole db structure |
| [15:37:00] | Kelerion: | get what you need |
| [15:37:00] | dagfinnr: | i use cable from upc, and got a list of freqs, how can i enter it in mhz? |
| [15:37:00] | juski: | don't deal in a**logue aerial schtuff |
| [15:37:00] | stealth: | thanks |
| [15:37:00] | Kelerion: | stealth.. thats from a svn install.. so be careful |
| [15:37:00] | stealth: | what does this mean when I try to load the settings table ERROR 1071 (42000): Specified key was too long; max key length is 1000 bytes |
| [15:38:00] | Kelerion: | means it's trying to store a 42k value in a 1k field |
| [15:38:00] | Kelerion: | no it doesn't |
| [15:38:00] | Kelerion: | storing *something* thats bigger than 1k |
| [15:39:00] | stealth: | what version of myth+mysql are you using? |
| [15:39:00] | juski: | 1000 chars in a field.. not even the radio times programme guide is that many |
| [15:40:00] | dagfinnr: | how do i enter the channels frequencies in mhz? |
| [15:40:00] | stuarta: | they are in Hz |
| [15:41:00] | stealth: | they are? |
| [15:41:00] | juski: | dagfinnr: multiply the MHz by one million to get the Hz value |
| [15:41:00] | etnoy: | e.g. 5 MHz = 5000000 Hz |
| [15:41:00] | dagfinnr: | so like 161,25 MHz is 161 250 000 hertz ? |
| [15:41:00] | stealth: | oh hz the way myth looks at it |
| [15:41:00] | etnoy: | dagfinnr: yes |
| [15:41:00] | dagfinnr: | ok |
| [15:41:00] | Kelerion: | svn myth + mysql 4.0.24 |
| [15:42:00] | stealth: | what version number is svn myth? 0.18.1 ? |
| [15:42:00] | juski: | stealth: you're not trying to use MYSQL5 with 0.18 are you? cos it won't work |
| [15:42:00] | stealth: | no no no |
| [15:42:00] | etnoy: | stealth: whatever revision of svn you are using |
| [15:42:00] | stuarta: | not clustered mysql? |
| [15:42:00] | stealth: | i have 0.18.1-r1 installed |
| [15:42:00] | sphing_: | stealth: svn doesnt have a version... svn versions itself |
| [15:42:00] | Kelerion: | 18.1 is a mythtv release |
| [15:42:00] | etnoy: | after a "svn up" you'll se what revisior you are at |
| [15:42:00] | stealth: | ah |
| [15:42:00] | stuarta: | svn info |
| [15:43:00] | stealth: | im using mysql Ver 14.7 Distrib 4.1.14, for pc-linux-gnu (i686) using readline 5 |
| [15:43:00] | etnoy: | stuarta: never thought of that, thanks :) |
| [15:45:00] | fryfrog: | does anyone use ivtv 0.4.2, 2.6.15 kernel, lirc and have the "bttv" driver compiled into kernel (as a module)? LIRC force-loads the bttv module if it exists. I've over come this by commenting out that portion of the code in LIRC, but I was hoping there was a better way? |
| [15:45:00] | Kelerion: | geez.. the mysql server recieved 524mb and sent 807mb in a week |
| [15:45:00] | Kelerion: | thats a lot of sql queries |
| [15:46:00] | Kelerion: | only averages 3–4mb an hour though.. so that ain't too bad |
| [15:46:00] | stuarta: | Kelerion: how did you get those numbers? |
| [15:46:00] | juski: | Kelerion: using DVB-EIT? |
| [15:46:00] | Kelerion: | I asked it in a polite voice and it gave them to me? |
| [15:46:00] | Kelerion: | juski: not using dvb at all yet |
| [15:46:00] | juski: | wah?! |
| [15:47:00] | stuarta: | perhaps I haven't read that section of the Mysql TFM |
| [15:47:00] | juski: | that's a lot of queries for it sitting there not doing much though |
| [15:47:00] | Kelerion: | stuarta: lol.. phpmyadmin reports it |
| [15:47:00] | juski: | or maybe mythfilldatabase is making up the average |
| [15:47:00] | stuarta: | ahh... |
| [15:47:00] | Kelerion: | it is doing a lot.. it's recording about 20 shows a day |
| [15:47:00] | juski: | ah |
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| [15:48:00] | juski: | you must watch a lot of TV |
| [15:48:00] | Kelerion: | yup.. lol |
| [15:48:00] | juski: | doing about 2 hours a night now |
| [15:48:00] | Kelerion: | I make my myth box earn it's living.. |
| [15:48:00] | stuarta: | or record and not watch... |
| [15:48:00] | juski: | and I still can't keep up |
| [15:48:00] | Kelerion: | I watch about 5 hours a night.. then catchup on everything else at the weekend |
| [15:48:00] | juski: | gonna delete a few boxsets worth of Frasier tonight |
| [15:49:00] | etnoy: | Kelerion: a lot of time spent there :P |
| [15:49:00] | stealth: | just a quickie.. you guys have commercial deletion working well? |
| [15:49:00] | Kelerion: | not in the uk it doesn't |
| [15:49:00] | stuarta: | depends where you are. |
| [15:49:00] | etnoy: | in Sweden we only have a handful of free-to-air channels, not too much to watch |
| [15:49:00] | juski: | I think the aspect change detection should work really well on a lot of shows that are 4:3 |
| [15:49:00] | stealth: | whats different by location.. isnt there always a blank frame to look for ? |
| [15:50:00] | dasOp: | stealth: shows may contain blank frames as well |
| [15:50:00] | juski: | stealth: I commflagged '24' on Sunday... it didn't snag a single ad break |
| [15:50:00] | stealth: | true true, like scene changing |
| [15:50:00] | dasOp: | named 24 cotnains around 10 of them |
| [15:50:00] | etnoy: | juski: you mean that it deleted all the ads? |
| [15:50:00] | juski: | the station bumpers were hard edits into the commercials |
| [15:50:00] | juski: | so mythtv missed them all |
| [15:50:00] | etnoy: | okay |
| [15:50:00] | Beirdo: | fun |
| [15:51:00] | stealth: | juski, you got that two hour season premier of 24 with NO commercials? |
| [15:51:00] | juski: | nope |
| [15:51:00] | juski: | comes over here in early Feb |
| [15:51:00] | sphing_: | juski: ahh.. it was 2 nights ago |
| [15:51:00] | sphing_: | and last night was the next 2 hours |
| [15:51:00] | stealth: | yea yea it was a total of four hours |
| [15:51:00] | juski: | what are they doing instead? placing products everywhere? |
| [15:52:00] | sphing_: | no there was commercials |
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| [15:52:00] | juski: | before pulling out his Glock, Jack bauer picks up a can of Coke and turns to camera and says "mmmmm.. that's refreshing..." |
| [15:53:00] | Kelerion: | juski: did you see they are trying to put product placement advertising *in* programs? like having a cadbury's logo throughout watching corrie? *because* more people have dvr's now and people are skipping commercials |
| [15:53:00] | juski: | WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?! |
| [15:53:00] | Kelerion: | guess not then.. lol |
| [15:53:00] | Merlin83b: | http://images.ucomics.com/comics/ft/2006/ft060116.gif <-- 24 |
| [15:53:00] | juski: | calm, Juski.. stay calm... |
| [15:53:00] | Merlin83b: | (no spoiler) |
| [15:53:00] | sphing_: | Kelerion: I'm ok with product placement in tv shows, if that means i get the full 30 mins of shows with no commercials |
| [15:54:00] | juski: | I'm not okay with DOGs though |
| [15:54:00] | Kelerion: | lols |
| [15:54:00] | juski: | like HELLO I can press a button to find out what channel I'm watching |
| [15:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | sphing_: Unfortunately it will be more than a Coke label on aT-Shirt, they are now talking about the product and how much they like it etc etc |
| [15:54:00] | sphing_: | DOGs? |
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| [15:54:00] | sphing: | that just makes me not want to watch non-subscription channels |
| [15:55:00] | juski: | digital onscreen graphics/ digitally originated Graphics.. logos.. bugs.. whatever |
| [15:55:00] | juski: | even channels I subscribe to have them |
| [15:55:00] | sphing: | juski: like when they preview tommorrows show on the bottom left of the show you're watching? |
| [15:55:00] | juski: | especially then |
| [15:55:00] | sphing: | that drives me insane |
| [15:56:00] | Beirdo: | they should be shot for that |
| [15:56:00] | fryfrog: | does anyone use ivtv 0.4.2, 2.6.15 kernel, lirc and have the "bttv" driver compiled into kernel (as a module)? LIRC force-loads the bttv module if it exists. I've over come this by commenting out that portion of the code in LIRC, but I was hoping there was a better way? |
| [15:56:00] | juski: | oh look a rotating cube spinning the text on & off.. and it's covering the top sixth of the screen.. grrr |
| [15:56:00] | sphing: | i feel like thats their way of watermarking, so they know which area a recording online came from |
| [15:56:00] | juski: | as if they're not easily blanked out, covered up or blurred |
| [15:56:00] | Kelerion: | Juski: http://www.productplacement.biz/2004/10/page/2/ |
| [15:57:00] | juski: | a better way for them to do that would be to make subtle changes to the editing |
| [15:57:00] | Beirdo: | OMG, I can't believe the bot is still alive |
| [15:57:00] | Beirdo: | that thing goes apeshit on netsplit/rejoin |
| [15:57:00] | sphing: | Beirdo: didnt you say you were going to do a rewrite like MONTHS ago |
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| [15:58:00] | Beirdo: | yes, and I've had no time |
| [15:58:00] | Beirdo: | but I will do it when I get time |
| [15:58:00] | Beirdo: | that will just take a weekend of uninterrupted time |
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| [15:58:00] | Beirdo: | and that's not likely to happen for a while. |
| [15:58:00] | juski: | Kelerion: they're lauding him like he's some kind of guru... we don't want adverts! I'll pay for my shows.. just remove that logo & the adverts... |
| [15:59:00] | sphing: | i know the feeling |
| [15:59:00] | juski: | we need a channel like HBO in the UK |
| [15:59:00] | sphing: | do the itunes shows have dogs? |
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| [16:00:00] | Kelerion: | I reckon that I pay bbc they're monies.. and I pay sky their monies per month.. that *paying* for my shows.. I don't see why I should still even *have* adverts |
| [16:00:00] | juski: | sphing – I wouldn't be surprised |
| [16:00:00] | lars-ut: | anybody know of or use a container format for Myth similar to divx6 ? I'd like to be able to keep all the menus & special features when ripping DVDs, while using less disk space than the original title. |
| [16:00:00] | juski: | Kelerion: you wouldn't believe the jollies I've been on thanks to the unique way the BBC is funded ;) |
| [16:01:00] | sphing: | lars-ut: i'm extremely interested in something like that, so keep me posted |
| [16:01:00] | Kelerion: | I can believe it |
| [16:01:00] | juski: | it's still good value for money though IMHO |
| [16:02:00] | lars-ut: | sphing: all I've found so far is a howto on windows for divx6 |
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| [16:02:00] | juski: | has divx6 even been OSS'd yet? |
| [16:02:00] | dagfinnrr: | i tried entering the freq's in hz via mythweb, but it seems like it cant find them |
| [16:02:00] | lars-ut: | don't think so |
| [16:03:00] | lars-ut: | juski: it's still quite new |
| [16:03:00] | dagfinnrr: | i get some channels when i enter Ex in the freq id,, but the S ones i dont get |
| [16:03:00] | dagfinnrr: | the Ex ones is listed in my list as K something,,weird |
| [16:03:00] | dagfinnrr: | if i use ivtv-tune -f161.25 .. it changes to the right channel |
| [16:04:00] | sphing: | ok campus time |
| [16:04:00] | sphing: | late |
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| [16:06:00] | juski: | Kelerion: there's actually a website campaigning for DOG-free TV. they seem to take themselves too seriously for anyone else to though |
| [16:06:00] | dagfinnrr: | and if i see in mysql, the freqid column is the same as in mythweb |
| [16:06:00] | dagfinnrr: | juski, how did you enter your channels freqid? |
| [16:06:00] | juski: | in mythtv-setup |
| [16:06:00] | juski: | and with a script I made |
| [16:06:00] | Kelerion: | I've heard of it yeah.. |
| [16:06:00] | juski: | and with webmin |
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| [16:08:00] | dagfinnrr: | but in mhz or what? |
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| [16:08:00] | dagfinnrr: | its in the channel table in the freqid i enter the frequencies, right? |
| [16:08:00] | juski: | reminds me of a conversation I had early in the new year.. someone didn't believe me when I said that there was a scroller during an xmas soap episode that said "if scenes of people having a good christmas are making you feel unhappy...." |
| [16:08:00] | dagfinnrr: | and the finetune is set to 0 |
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| [16:09:00] | juski: | dagfinnr: do you have channel numbers as well as freqid's? |
| [16:09:00] | dagfinnrr: | yep |
| [16:10:00] | dagfinnrr: | i have defined two channels now, just for testing, the one is in mhz, and the other is E5 .. i can only view e5, and if i try to change it just jups back to e5 |
| [16:10:00] | juski: | dagfinnr: that'll be to do with the channel table you're using then |
| [16:10:00] | juski: | ooops I mean frequency table |
| [16:11:00] | dagfinnrr: | how do i check which one im using? |
| [16:11:00] | juski: | so you need to convert the freq in mhz to a number like E5 |
| [16:11:00] | juski: | google for it |
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| [16:15:00] | juski: | isn't the defualt freq. table something like US-Cable? |
| [16:15:00] | stf28: | I!!! I want to compile the mythtv from source. Before the compilation i need to apply the sasc patch's. So i need to use the cvs but i dont know how to connect to the cvs server |
| [16:15:00] | juski: | cvs=svn |
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| [16:15:00] | juski: | svn.mythtv.org |
| [16:16:00] | juski: | all in the FM |
| [16:19:00] | juski: | I think I picked the wrong week to give up crack cocaine |
| [16:19:00] | ** _willcooke_ picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue ** | |
| [16:19:00] | _willcooke_: | had to take the dog to the vets 'cos she caught her ear on barbed wire |
| [16:19:00] | laga: | i love that movie |
| [16:19:00] | juski: | I didn't watch airplane! the other night, honest |
| [16:19:00] | _willcooke_: | :) |
| [16:20:00] | juski: | every time I see it I spot something I never saw before |
| [16:20:00] | stf28: | How can i retreive the cvs source for mythtv ? |
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| [16:20:00] | laga: | stf28: svn.mythtv.org |
| [16:20:00] | _willcooke_: | stf28, go to svn.mythtv.org and have a look |
| [16:20:00] | fryfrog: | i sure picked the wrong week to stop doing methamphetamines! |
| [16:21:00] | stf28: | tank laga and _willcooke_ |
| [16:21:00] | juski: | and me. about five lines before you asked |
| [16:21:00] | Merlin83b: | Heh. |
| [16:22:00] | _willcooke_: | stf28 picked the wrong week to quit search google! ;p |
| [16:22:00] | juski: | must be hellish using IRC on a WAP phone |
| [16:22:00] | Merlin83b: | It is. |
| [16:22:00] | Merlin83b: | Sometimes it's necessary. |
| [16:22:00] | Merlin83b: | (for me, anyway) |
| [16:22:00] | _willcooke_: | Gah!!! |
| [16:22:00] | _willcooke_: | you must be mad! |
| [16:23:00] | Merlin83b: | I avoid it wherever possible, but work sometimes demands it. |
| [16:23:00] | Merlin83b: | I think I've done it 3 or 4 times. |
| [16:23:00] | juski: | flippin' forks.. someone must be loaded |
| [16:23:00] | _willcooke_: | using it FOR work, or using it because you're AT work> |
| [16:23:00] | _willcooke_: | > |
| [16:23:00] | _willcooke_: | ? |
| [16:23:00] | juski: | I used some free time to check my email once... |
| [16:23:00] | Merlin83b: | FOR. |
| [16:23:00] | Merlin83b: | I'm AT work now. |
| [16:23:00] | juski: | then I had no free time left |
| [16:23:00] | _willcooke_: | You have to use IRC for work? Lucky! |
| [16:23:00] | laga: | juski: and still no emails? ;) |
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| [16:24:00] | juski: | laga: nah.. nobody loves me |
| [16:24:00] | laga: | juski: we all know that. |
| [16:24:00] | juski: | apart from the people who said I 'rock'.. if only they knew.. ;) |
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| [16:24:00] | Merlin83b: | _willcooke_: Yep, free to use it as we do actually use ot for work – teleworking and customer support. |
| [16:25:00] | _willcooke_: | sweet |
| [16:25:00] | juski: | customer support? bet that attracts some types ;) |
| [16:25:00] | Merlin83b: | Geeks are a large part of our market :) |
| [16:25:00] | ** _willcooke_ makes tea ** | |
| [16:26:00] | ** juski is glad he doesn't have to deal with this firm's customers ** | |
| [16:26:00] | Beirdo: | I can't believe this! |
| [16:26:00] | juski: | how heavy is your unit... okay.. and when the hard drives are full? |
| [16:26:00] | Beirdo: | I have 3 tuners, and STILL have a frigging conflict |
| [16:26:00] | Beirdo: | gah gah gah |
| [16:27:00] | juski: | Beirdo: time for another tuner.. or another backend with 3 tuners |
| [16:27:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:27:00] | Beirdo: | I dunno |
| [16:27:00] | Beirdo: | I'm not spending more on my PVR, thanks |
| [16:27:00] | Merlin83b: | My customer dealing with role has been seriously reduced. Yay |
| [16:27:00] | Beirdo: | I could spark up the bttv card on my devel box |
| [16:27:00] | stf28: | laga: should i install the svn package before |
| [16:27:00] | juski: | heheh.. or move to the UK.. easily catch the repeats |
| [16:27:00] | laga: | stf28: what svn package? |
| [16:27:00] | Beirdo: | these are all current shows |
| [16:28:00] | juski: | I think he means should he install the SVN package.. as in the program that accesses SVN |
| [16:28:00] | juski: | stf28: having subversion on your machine is pretty key to being able to get mythtv SVN |
| [16:29:00] | fryfrog: | don't believe the hype! |
| [16:29:00] | stuarta: | like a blackboard without chalk |
| [16:29:00] | juski: | or you could get each bit by hand from the webpages.. |
| [16:29:00] | juski: | (yikes) |
| [16:29:00] | stf28: | juski: what do you say about sybversion |
| [16:30:00] | fryfrog: | svn is for bitches, real men copy/paste the source into notepad! |
| [16:30:00] | Beirdo: | and a 5-way conflict tonight |
| [16:30:00] | Beirdo: | great |
| [16:30:00] | juski: | to do the SVN co http:svn.blah etc bit you need subversion installed on your machine |
| [16:30:00] | Merlin83b: | stf28: Subversion and svn are the same thing. |
| [16:30:00] | ** Merlin83b fights with trac on another server. ** | |
| [16:30:00] | juski: | Beirdo.. here there's normally the same show on a couple of hours or days later |
| [16:30:00] | Merlin83b: | Install you little bugger! |
| [16:30:00] | Beirdo: | I know, but myth will schedule as it wants to |
| [16:31:00] | Beirdo: | and these are all new shows... except Simpsons, which I don't care if it gets das boot! |
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| [16:31:00] | juski: | new simpsons just aren't funny. at all |
| [16:31:00] | stf28: | So how can i retreive this subversion |
| [16:32:00] | juski: | stf28: what distro? |
| [16:32:00] | juski: | on ubtuntu you'd do sudo apt-get install subversion |
| [16:32:00] | juski: | on gentoo you'd do emerge subversion |
| [16:32:00] | Beirdo: | wonder if I should finally bring up the devel box's tuner? |
| [16:33:00] | laga: | well, if you can't work your distro's package management, you probably shouldn't be using mythtv from svn then. |
| [16:33:00] | stf28: | juski: FC4 |
| [16:33:00] | juski: | laga: I wouldn't say "probably shouldn't". I'd say "*** definitely *** shouldn't" |
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| [16:34:00] | laga: | juski: right. well, it's not my personal doom. he'll have to find out the hard way. |
| [16:34:00] | juski: | anyway.. laga.. how come I've been the one biting people's heads off & you've been all serene, mister given up? |
| [16:35:00] | juski: | ;) |
| [16:35:00] | laga: | juski: i'm not fully awake yet. but actually, i'm pissed off so i will try and find some poor guy at mythtvtalk to yell at. |
| [16:35:00] | juski: | is that going ok btw? I plan to follow suit soon.. god help everybody |
| [16:35:00] | stealth: | why do I get this when loading mythsetup.. I think this is why Im not getting my keybindings and settings table Specified key was too long; max key length is 1000 bytes |
| [16:35:00] | Beirdo: | sigh. Dammit |
| [16:36:00] | stealth: | and more importantly how do i fix it |
| [16:36:00] | stf28: | juski: FC4 |
| [16:36:00] | laga: | juski: what suit? what is going ok? |
| [16:36:00] | laga: | i need coffee. |
| [16:36:00] | juski: | stf28: if you can't be bothered to find out yourself how to install 'subversion' on FC4 then you shouldn't be messing with SVN |
| [16:36:00] | stealth: | omfg |
| [16:37:00] | stealth: | wtf is going on |
| [16:37:00] | juski: | laga: gonna giveupski |
| [16:37:00] | laga: | juski: on what? |
| [16:37:00] | juski: | nick-o-teen |
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| [16:38:00] | laga: | juski: verdammt noch mal. make sense, especially to some non-native speaker who's in need of coffee. |
| [16:38:00] | juski: | heh |
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| [16:38:00] | laga: | something is wrong. the GF doesn't make sense as well. |
| [16:38:00] | stealth: | this is bs |
| [16:38:00] | juski: | get some coffee, laga |
| [16:38:00] | stuarta: | laga: Isn't that normal? |
| [16:39:00] | laga: | juski: i don't do caffeine anymore, unfortunately |
| [16:39:00] | stuarta: | oh dear |
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| [16:40:00] | juski: | ouch |
| [16:40:00] | juski: | I might try to give up being sacastic for a while too |
| [16:40:00] | Merlin83b: | Nah. |
| [16:40:00] | stealth: | follow the freaken manual and it still fails, and nobody knows how to fix it.. what am i suppose to do? |
| [16:40:00] | laga: | juski: you can be sarcastic in an helpful way. |
| [16:40:00] | juski: | though that could be worse for my healthhhhhhhh in the long run |
| [16:40:00] | Merlin83b: | That's not eh British way, juski. |
| [16:41:00] | laga: | stuarta: dig into the source? search the mailing list? |
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| [16:42:00] | juski: | Merlin83b: neither is jumping queues, but I enjoy doing that just to piss people off ;) |
| [16:42:00] | stealth: | how do I make mythtv work? |
| [16:42:00] | Merlin83b: | Heh. |
| [16:43:00] | znoG: | stealth: what version of mysql? |
| [16:43:00] | stealth: | mysql Ver 14.7 Distrib 4.1.14, for pc-linux-gnu (i686) using readline 5.0 |
| [16:43:00] | dagfinnr: | seems like google isnt flooding over with mhz to E[something] converters .. anyone got a clue? |
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| [16:44:00] | laga: | juski: sometimes i just wanna kill all the lusers, but we sometimes have some pretty interesting discussion going on. the lameness factor of the englisch section may be higher because the really good people gather around the mailing list. |
| [16:44:00] | stf28: | I'm not a newby with linux but i never use this kind of think and english it's not my native language so i mist some think. |
| [16:44:00] | stf28: | juski:I'm not a newby with linux but i never use this kind of think and english it's not my native language so i mist some think. |
| [16:45:00] | laga: | dagfinnr: some deutch or belgian mythtv site had something like this, but i don't remember the url, sorry |
| [16:45:00] | _null: | Will a Via EPIA MII 10000 board suffice for recording standard PAL? I have a Hauppauge PVR-500 MCE here. Will it suffice for recording & watching simultanously? |
| [16:46:00] | juski: | dagfinnr: google for "USA frequency table" or whatever for where in the world you live |
| [16:46:00] | laga: | stf28: i'd like to suggest something then. it's a website that is a good read, but many people are offended if you post it, but i can reassure you that it has helped me a lot. |
| [16:46:00] | laga: | stf28: read this: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| [16:46:00] | Merlin83b: | _null: Pretty much my setup, only with a Nova-T instead. Not quite right yet but I'm working on it. I think other people have M10ks working. |
| [16:47:00] | Merlin83b: | Oh, MII has the new chipset – not sure on driver support for that yet. |
| [16:47:00] | juski: | _null: MII chipsets are covered in the unichrome driver I think |
| [16:47:00] | _null: | hm |
| [16:47:00] | juski: | CN400 isn;t it |
| [16:47:00] | juski: | just the MPEG4 bit that isn't, just yet |
| [16:48:00] | _null: | how "fast" is the c3 processor? Will it suffice for playing divx, xvid, theora? |
| [16:48:00] | _null: | and, of course dvds.. |
| [16:48:00] | stealth: | znoG, is that the right version of mysql? |
| [16:48:00] | juski: | _null: I play DVD, dvix, xvid, mp3, DVB-T recording, PVR150 recordings on my M-10k board |
| [16:49:00] | juski: | mpeg2 playing hits about 15% CPU usage |
| [16:49:00] | _null: | juski, and you don't have any lost frames? |
| [16:49:00] | juski: | (sorry to rub it in, Merlin83b) |
| [16:49:00] | juski: | _null: occasionally if I go crazy fast forwarding |
| [16:50:00] | juski: | and I mean mad-crazy |
| [16:50:00] | _null: | one other thing. I plan to netboot the via board.. will this work? will 100mbit/s suffice for writing the recordings over NFS? |
| [16:50:00] | _willcooke_: | _null, plenty |
| [16:50:00] | Merlin83b: | No probs juski, just fix mine and I'll be happy :-) |
| [16:50:00] | juski: | lol |
| [16:51:00] | _null: | _willcooke_, ok, but does the bios have any netbooting code? |
| [16:51:00] | ** juski passes Merlin83b a Mancunian screwdriver ** | |
| [16:51:00] | Merlin83b: | Heh. |
| [16:51:00] | juski: | _null: yep |
| [16:51:00] | juski: | my frontend is diskless |
| [16:51:00] | _null: | oh cool |
| [16:51:00] | juski: | it'll do PXE, for sure |
| [16:52:00] | _null: | the m2 board would be cool, they have tv-out.. |
| [16:52:00] | juski: | so does the M-10k |
| [16:52:00] | juski: | and digital audio out |
| [16:52:00] | Beirdo: | anyone using mythtv on ubuntu? |
| [16:52:00] | ** _willcooke_ sticks his hand up ** | |
| [16:53:00] | Kelerion: | Beirdo: yup |
| [16:53:00] | Beirdo: | which startup script from contrib does it use? |
| [16:53:00] | juski: | it's something like mythtv-backend |
| [16:53:00] | _willcooke_: | ? |
| [16:53:00] | laga: | Beirdo: i think you should try and extract the one from the mythtv package. it's in multiverse |
| [16:53:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:54:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, maybe |
| [16:54:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [16:54:00] | stealth: | ahhhh\ |
| [16:54:00] | Beirdo: | I'll look at that, I guess |
| [16:54:00] | juski: | ends up being called mythtv-backend in the init.d section |
| [16:54:00] | _null: | juski, i can't see any tv-out board based on m-10k... only m2–10k |
| [16:54:00] | Beirdo: | for now, I'll just comment out the start/stop lines in my custom makefiles :) |
| [16:54:00] | juski: | _null: well it DOES |
| [16:54:00] | _null: | ok searching again =) |
| [16:55:00] | juski: | _null: look on mini-itx.com/store |
| [16:55:00] | Beirdo: | ewww, this machine uses ALSA |
| [16:55:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [16:56:00] | _null: | juski, http://en.toppreise.ch/pic_23284.html <- this one right? |
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| [16:56:00] | Merlin83b: | Look on the Details tab, _null. |
| [16:56:00] | juski: | _null: lookey likey |
| [16:57:00] | _null: | ah see |
| [16:57:00] | _null: | thank you =) |
| [16:57:00] | _null: | what about the fan? is it loud? |
| [16:57:00] | _null: | is there another solution on how to cool it? |
| [16:58:00] | Beirdo: | OK, compiling |
| [16:58:00] | juski: | zalman northbridge heatsink in place of the original CPU HSF |
| [16:58:00] | laga: | Beirdo: it's just a bash script. you don't have to compile it. :> |
| [16:58:00] | _null: | juski, ok |
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| [16:58:00] | Beirdo: | I'm compiling mythtv, silly |
| [16:58:00] | juski: | but for extended operation I'd recommend putting an 80mm fan above it |
| [16:58:00] | _null: | i'd like a 120mm fan on top of the case |
| [16:58:00] | juski: | there are init scripts in contrib for different distros? |
| [16:59:00] | ** juski slaps his head ** | |
| [16:59:00] | Beirdo: | it seems so |
| [16:59:00] | Beirdo: | but it's hard to tell what some of them are for |
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| [16:59:00] | juski: | I bet mythlink is in there aswell is it? |
| [16:59:00] | Beirdo: | probably :) |
| [16:59:00] | sona: | give an url to mythlink |
| [16:59:00] | _null: | Does mythtv support the fm-tuner on pvr-500 mce? |
| [17:00:00] | sphing: | Beirdo: OT question: is it possible to have a module that can be insmodded but gives unresolved symbols |
| [17:00:00] | sphing: | with depmod |
| [17:00:00] | Beirdo: | umm, dunno |
| [17:00:00] | laga: | Beirdo: hehe |
| [17:00:00] | juski: | sona: www.google.com |
| [17:00:00] | sphing: | anyone know that? |
| [17:01:00] | sona: | juski: thanks |
| [17:01:00] | juski: | _null: mythtv doesn't support FM tuners at all |
| [17:02:00] | _null: | :( isn't there a plugin or something like that? |
| [17:02:00] | Beirdo: | it will be fun to get a slave backend running for a short time |
| [17:02:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:02:00] | Beirdo: | just long enough to overcome real bad conflicts |
| [17:02:00] | Beirdo: | then shut it down |
| [17:02:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:02:00] | xpis: | Is it by design that mythtv won't delete nuv files immediately when recordings are deleted? |
| [17:02:00] | dagfinnr: | is there any way to see what frequency table mysql is using? shouldnt it be using the same as ivtv-tune ? |
| [17:02:00] | juski: | _null: there was, but it won't compile against 0.18.1 |
| [17:02:00] | _null: | hm |
| [17:03:00] | juski: | but.. DVB radio is coming :) |
| [17:03:00] | _null: | i don't have dvb here... |
| [17:03:00] | stealth: | im dong this http://home.earthlink.net/~wing549/mysql-sql.log PLEASE help.. nothing on google ruuing mysql 4.1.14 and mythtv 0.18.1-r2 |
| [17:03:00] | _null: | only analog. |
| [17:03:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, a fat lot of use THAT is, juski |
| [17:03:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:03:00] | xpis: | dagfinnr: the frequency table is hardcoded into mythtv. |
| [17:03:00] | juski: | _null.. you've only got 6 to 100 years til analogue is switched off |
| [17:03:00] | Beirdo: | xpis: not really |
| [17:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | xpis: In 0.18.x it's "immediate", in SVN there is a minor (under half second?) delay I think |
| [17:04:00] | Beirdo: | the frequency for each channel is stored in the db |
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| [17:04:00] | xpis: | You can specify your own, but the channel->frequency table is hardcoded. |
| [17:04:00] | stealth: | omfg |
| [17:04:00] | stealth: | are there any devs in here? |
| [17:04:00] | Beirdo: | jeez |
| [17:04:00] | sphing: | GreyFoxx: would you happen to know if a module can be insmodded but gives unresolved symbols with depmod |
| [17:04:00] | _null: | juski, think this will take about 5 years... we don't have *one* hdtv stream here right now. you can have digital tv, but they sell it at a much higher price... so i'll stay with analog a bit ;) |
| [17:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | stealth: yes |
| [17:04:00] | Beirdo: | the DEFAULT channel->frequency mapping is hardcoded |
| [17:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | some looking at their screens, and some not of course :) |
| [17:04:00] | Beirdo: | and is mandated by the FCC, etc |
| [17:05:00] | Beirdo: | channel 3 in NTSC is always at the same frequency |
| [17:05:00] | stealth: | GreyFoxx, well ive done everything by the docs, recompiled mysql, qt, new versions of mysql and myth.. and i get the same thing what do i do now |
| [17:05:00] | Beirdo: | but for tuning, the frequency to tune is taken from the db, you can override at will |
| [17:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | sphing: I don't understand what you are asking |
| [17:06:00] | xpis: | Is there any way to force immediate cleaning of old nuv files? (from live tv and deleted shows) |
| [17:06:00] | sphing: | I have this driver for a card for something totally not myth related, but the driver compiles, then I insmod it, and it doesnt give any errors, however I copy it to /lib/modules/2.4.32 and run depmod and it says unresolved symbols |
| [17:06:00] | stealth: | ::sigh:: no support |
| [17:07:00] | Beirdo: | are you running that kernel? |
| [17:07:00] | adante: | if i want to use alsa, the sound is set to ALSA:default, what should i use as the mixer device? |
| [17:07:00] | sphing: | Beirdo: yes |
| [17:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | stealth: I looked at the sql log you sent, ummm did you drop the database before you made that log so that you could see where table creation is stopping ? Cause the SQL you posted didn't contain any table creation lines so the database was at least partially existing already |
| [17:07:00] | Beirdo: | dunno then, sphing |
| [17:07:00] | stealth: | GreyFoxx, yes the mpeg video shows me dropping the database.. |
| [17:08:00] | stealth: | the mpeg should be the whole shebang |
| [17:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | stealth: I don't care about the video |
| [17:08:00] | laga: | adante: wiki.mythtv.org has some information |
| [17:08:00] | sphing: | Beirdo: yea its weird |
| [17:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | You are so missing my point |
| [17:08:00] | stealth: | indeed |
| [17:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | the purpose of the SQL logs was to see where FRONT SCRATCH the table creation was halting or failing |
| [17:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | FROM I meant heh |
| [17:09:00] | stealth: | i dropped the mythconverg db, reloaded mc.sql, started mythsetup |
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| [17:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | stealth: In the video yes, but in the SQL log you posted did you also do that? Cause there is no logged entry of your drooping the database or loading in mc.sql in that logfile either |
| [17:10:00] | adante: | laga: thanks |
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| [17:10:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v xris | |
| [17:10:00] | dagfinnr: | xpis, but when i enter the freq in hz it cannot be found/doesent detect, but when i do the same with ivtv-tune -f[freq] .. everything works, and the frontend changes to the given channel in ivtv-tune |
| [17:10:00] | stealth: | GreyFoxx, the sql log is just from mythsetup.. mc.sql dosent have anything on table creation anyway |
| [17:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | Again, you are missing my point |
| [17:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | I was asking you for logs from the START of the process |
| [17:12:00] | Beirdo: | well, I'm gonna go get fooood |
| [17:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | but even if it was just from after mc.sql(which you don't need to keep loading, a create database mythconverg; would do the trick) |
| [17:12:00] | stealth: | im trying to go by the docs |
| [17:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | then there should be some table creation lines whcih are not there This implies that some of the tables are still existing after your dropping of the database which makes no sense |
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| [17:14:00] | sona: | all my tv-show info is screwed with 2hours, not using xmltv and I set +0200 before filling the database, what needs to be done here to get myth to things correct ? |
| [17:15:00] | sona: | Im at gmt+2 |
| [17:15:00] | xpis: | My hard disk is almost full will nuv files left over from watching live tv. Is there any way to make mythtv purge them? |
| [17:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | xpis: Running SVN ? |
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| [17:15:00] | stealth: | GreyFoxx, ok heres the whole shebang from dropping the db, to creating it, to starting mythsetup http://home.earthlink.net/~wing549/mysql-sql.log |
| [17:16:00] | xpis: | GreyFoxx: yes |
| [17:16:00] | stealth: | dosent even create settings table |
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| [17:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | They will get auto expired after a preconfigured set of days (defaults to 7 but you can lower it to 1 day), PLUS they will automatically get autoi expired if space is needed for a recording. You can also specify an amount of disk space that is not to be used by myth if you store other things than just recordings on the drive |
| [17:16:00] | stealth: | or keybindings |
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| [17:17:00] | stealth: | the only thing i got is from mythsetup Specified key was too long; max key length is 1000 bytes |
| [17:17:00] | dagfinnr: | juski, what whas the script you talked about regarding tuning channels doing? |
| [17:17:00] | stealth: | and i believe thats on settings table |
| [17:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | Stealth..... sounds like a unicode thing |
| [17:18:00] | stealth: | wha.. mysql in wrong charset deal? need utf? |
| [17:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | to me it sounds like something I ran into with the wrong charset |
| [17:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | but I can't remember what exactly resolved it |
| [17:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | hmmm |
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| [17:19:00] | xpis: | GreyFoxx: ok, I set it to one day.. Thanks. |
| [17:19:00] | stealth: | GreyFoxx, recompile mysql with utf-8 ? |
| [17:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | stealth: No |
| [17:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | like I said I don't remember exactly what I did to resolve it |
| [17:20:00] | stealth: | :-/ |
| [17:20:00] | kormoc: | stealth, what charset are you using right now? |
| [17:20:00] | stealth: | no idea |
| [17:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | But googling for that error brings up a ton of results |
| [17:20:00] | Kelerion: | stealth: what dist are you on? |
| [17:20:00] | stealth: | Gentoo |
| [17:20:00] | Kelerion: | ok |
| [17:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | stealth: do this for me ok |
| [17:21:00] | kormoc: | stealth, what use flags are set for mysql? |
| [17:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | find /usr -name mysql\* > file.txt |
| [17:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | and place file.txt along with a copy of ps -elfwwww output on your site |
| [17:21:00] | stealth: | kormoc, in the ebuild or in make.conf? |
| [17:22:00] | kormoc: | stealth, emerge -pv mysql will list them |
| [17:22:00] | stealth: | +berkdb -big-tables -cluster -debug -doc -extraengine -geometry -minimal +perl +readline (-selinux) +ssl -static +tcpd -utf8 0 kB |
| [17:22:00] | juski: | dagfinnr: that script I mentioned using will be of no use to you.. it was to insert a list of channels got from a cable box |
| [17:23:00] | dagfinnr: | ah .. k .. its seems strange, would it make a difference whitch freq table i used (default, us, europe-west) ? |
| [17:24:00] | Merlin83b: | juski: How's this for a top while watching LiveTV: http://pastebin.com/510100 |
| [17:24:00] | juski: | better :-) |
| [17:24:00] | Merlin83b: | Typical values and FE will go higher than that most of the time. |
| [17:24:00] | stealth: | http://home.earthlink.net/~wing549/file.txt (both the find and ps) |
| [17:25:00] | stealth: | kormoc, is there a use flag i should enable for mysql? |
| [17:25:00] | juski: | yeah put mysql in your use variable in /etc/make.conf |
| [17:26:00] | kormoc: | stealth, no, those are all good... |
| [17:26:00] | kormoc: | juski, that's not his issue. |
| [17:26:00] | juski: | right... |
| [17:26:00] | stealth: | juski, ive had that.. had to for qt |
| [17:26:00] | stealth: | i always have weird problems :-/ |
| [17:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | stealth try this |
| [17:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | edit my.cnf |
| [17:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | go to the [mysqld] section and add the following(or change if it exists) default-character-set=latin1 |
| [17:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | restart mysqld |
| [17:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | might as well add it to the [client] section as well |
| [17:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | then drop mythconverg create the blank and launch mythtv-setup |
| [17:29:00] | stealth: | its set to utf8 |
| [17:29:00] | stealth: | change it to latin1./ |
| [17:29:00] | stealth: | ? |
| [17:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [17:30:00] | wswanson: | anyone notice anything strange with audio on the latest svn from last night? |
| [17:30:00] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [17:30:00] | kormoc: | it shouldn't be set to UTF-8 unless the utf-8 flag is set... |
| [17:30:00] | ** kormoc blinks. ** | |
| [17:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | kormoc: You would think so |
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| [17:34:00] | stealth: | that did it! thank you! how did this happen? |
| [17:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | *shrug* no idea. Left overs from your previous MySQL 5 install? I don't use gentoo and have no idea what it does for you or expects you to do on your own |
| [17:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | but with that USE variable set I would have expected it to not be filled in with a charset of utf-8 :) |
| [17:35:00] | stealth: | should remove stuff like that on unemerge |
| [17:35:00] | stealth: | yea |
| [17:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | So that'll be $20 sent to my paypal account ? |
| [17:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | hehe ;) |
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| [17:37:00] | stealth: | i seriously will consider it.. i get paid friday |
| [17:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | hehe I was kidding :) |
| [17:37:00] | kormoc: | GreyFoxx, the ebuilds set the charset based on what's installed, so the only way that could have happened is if stealth didn't do the proper etc-update. |
| [17:37:00] | stealth: | good programmers should be paid |
| [17:37:00] | stealth: | kormoc, oops |
| [17:37:00] | Kelerion: | ok – now I want to my my backend have a public ip.. this is gonna be fun |
| [17:38:00] | kormoc: | stealth, hehe, tis okay :) |
| [17:38:00] | xris: | stealth: some of us are. |
| [17:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kelerion: I hope you are gonna firewall it or protect it in some manner |
| [17:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | the myth protocol doesn't have any sort of authentication or IP restrictions |
| [17:38:00] | Kelerion: | yup |
| [17:38:00] | Kelerion: | it only needs http access to that box |
| [17:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | Ahhh, Rather than change it's IP, I'd consider just setting up a port forward from the external IP/port 80 to the internal IP/80 |
| [17:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | that's what I use for mythweb. |
| [17:39:00] | dagfinnr: | what other freq "chars" could you enter in the freqid coulumn? like E5, E9 etc .. |
| [17:39:00] | xris: | GreyFoxx: no https? |
| [17:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | xris: Nope, I live dangerously |
| [17:40:00] | Kelerion: | can't do that.. I have 5 public ip's.. and the nat'd ip already goes to another internal web server |
| [17:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | I also do most of my web traffic over and ssh portfoward to a squid proxy at home so that my employer can't monitor my traffic ;) |
| [17:40:00] | xris: | haha |
| [17:40:00] | Kelerion: | lol |
| [17:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | ssh greg@homeaddr -L3128:127.0.0.1:3128 |
| [17:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | :) |
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| [17:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | I got in the habit years ago when I was traveling a lot for work |
| [17:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | shaky hotel networks, unknown customer/client networks, etc etc |
| [17:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | eventually I started doing it from my office as well |
| [17:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | and with the next version of OpenSSH including builting VPN support it's gonna be sweeeet :) |
| [17:45:00] | kormoc: | openssh vpn?! oddness |
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| [17:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | kormoc: Yup, built in vpn , not just TCP port forwarding |
| [17:51:00] | dagfinnr: | would upgrading ivtv have any effect on my channel freq problem? ivtv-tune works .. |
| [17:56:00] | juski: | dagfinnr: are you the guy in finland? |
| [17:56:00] | fryfrog: | FINALLY! medical evidence! "Baby, sex will cure your cold... trust me!" http://english.pravda.ru/printed.html?news_id=14708 |
| [17:57:00] | dagfinnr: | juski, im in norway |
| [17:57:00] | juski: | in either case you'd have to be using europe-west in mythtv-setup |
| [17:58:00] | juski: | gotta love pravda |
| [17:58:00] | dagfinnr: | im using the europe-west .. |
| [17:59:00] | adante: | when using alsa, when you mute a stream is there any reason mythfrontend sets the volume to 0 instead of just muting the channel? |
| [17:59:00] | dagfinnr: | all of the freq's work with ivtv-tune, none work with myth |
| [17:59:00] | juski: | well.. that should make finding the MHz a lot easier |
| [17:59:00] | adante: | i can hear very faint residual sound even when master volume is set to 0.. but not when uted |
| [17:59:00] | adante: | muted |
| [18:01:00] | juski: | dagfinnr: what's the E number that works? |
| [18:01:00] | dagfinnr: | juski, yeah, but if i enter "hello_this_DOESNT-work" or 161250000 in the freqid column, i get the same; nothing (cant change to that channel |
| [18:01:00] | dagfinnr: | E5-E12 |
| [18:02:00] | dagfinnr: | but most of the channels arent on the E thingie |
| [18:03:00] | dagfinnr: | also ive tried all other chars (A-Z)9 ..but no luck |
| [18:03:00] | dagfinnr: | in my list from upc (cable provider) i have chars K and S, K seems to be equal to E. |
| [18:04:00] | dagfinnr: | and the freq in mhz with ivtv-tune seems to give me the right channels that the list describe |
| [18:09:00] | gakalkag: | used to use upc too. worked for me |
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| [18:11:00] | Beirdo: | isn't the frequid supposed to be freq in MHz * 16? |
| [18:11:00] | Beirdo: | or something like that? |
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| [18:13:00] | galorin: | I/m using the ATI Remote Wonder, not LiRC and the play, stop, ff, etc buttons aren't working. What keys do I need to map for each one? |
| [18:14:00] | dagfinnr: | Beirdo: oh..have you used that? |
| [18:14:00] | Beirdo: | I seem to recall that was what it is |
| [18:15:00] | dagfinnr: | in mhz or hz * 16? |
| [18:16:00] | Beirdo: | I don't recall, but I think MHz * 16 |
| [18:16:00] | dagfinnr: | didnt work for me, but i didnt suppose this would work without spending 1000000 hours getting it working |
| [18:17:00] | Beirdo: | you are restarting the backend after you change these values, I hope |
| [18:17:00] | dagfinnr: | you dont need to |
| [18:17:00] | Beirdo: | I bet you do |
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| [18:18:00] | bhobw: | can anyone answer: is it possible to use a mouse with mythtv? (manual suggests that most of myth's functions are keyboard only)??? |
| [18:18:00] | dagfinnr: | at the beginning i did, but now i dont do anymore, it works, cuz if i enter E5, it works |
| [18:18:00] | Beirdo: | hmm |
| [18:18:00] | juski: | http://escay.nl/mythtv/frequency2channel.php |
| [18:18:00] | Beirdo: | OK, it seems my memory might be bad |
| [18:18:00] | Beirdo: | the code says to just use frequency in Hz |
| [18:19:00] | dagfinnr: | oh |
| [18:19:00] | Beirdo: | at least the code in svn |
| [18:19:00] | dagfinnr: | yahoo, now it suddenly worked |
| [18:19:00] | dagfinnr: | kHz is the deal it seems like |
| [18:19:00] | juski: | dagfinnr: look ^^^^ |
| [18:19:00] | Beirdo: | channel number as valid for your TV Format or exact frequency in Hz is what the code says |
| [18:20:00] | Beirdo: | if it works with kHz, perfect |
| [18:20:00] | Beirdo: | maybe that changed at some point, dunno, just going by what the text says |
| [18:20:00] | gakalkag: | my freq http://pastebin.ca/37099 using upc in stavanger |
| [18:21:00] | bhobw: | is it possible to get mythtv working with a touchscreen? |
| [18:21:00] | dagfinnr: | yeah, youre using kHz too i see |
| [18:22:00] | gakalkag: | only thing that worked for me |
| [18:22:00] | dagfinnr: | me too it seems |
| [18:22:00] | Beirdo: | yup, the text in the code is wrong |
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| [18:23:00] | Beirdo: | it's clearly multiplying by 1000 what it reads from that field. |
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| [18:25:00] | dagfinnr: | yup |
| [18:25:00] | Beirdo: | I'll bug report with patch |
| [18:25:00] | gakalkag: | but at the first of january i lost my cable signals. they switched to iptv, so today i got my two dvb-s budget card :)) |
| [18:26:00] | juski: | bhobw: no it's not.. for that you'd need mouse support to work |
| [18:26:00] | juski: | and mythtv doesn't support mices |
| [18:26:00] | juski: | well, not yet anyway |
| [18:28:00] | juski: | hahahaha.. the MS DHCP server keeps giving my test machine IP addresses already given to other people.. |
| [18:30:00] | Beirdo: | and reported |
| [18:30:00] | juski: | .. and the IT guys don't believe me. oh well.. it's their loss |
| [18:31:00] | dagfinnr: | gakalkag: hmm, would they be switching all over to iptv? |
| [18:31:00] | gakalkag: | lyse cabel over ip. |
| [18:31:00] | gakalkag: | i dont like the box |
| [18:31:00] | gakalkag: | and the remote sucks :) |
| [18:32:00] | dagfinnr: | yeah |
| [18:32:00] | dagfinnr: | ive tried it |
| [18:32:00] | dagfinnr: | its very laggy |
| [18:33:00] | gakalkag: | so i got two technotrend s1500 (dvb-s budget cards). and i will buy a dish next week |
| [18:33:00] | juski: | haven't they missed something with IPTV.. if it's all on-demand, how would it cope when people want more than once box at home? |
| [18:33:00] | dagfinnr: | ah |
| [18:33:00] | juski: | gakalkag: don't forget your dual-LNB ;) |
| [18:33:00] | gakalkag: | i know |
| [18:34:00] | juski: | didn't mean to patronise :) |
| [18:34:00] | gakalkag: | thanx |
| [18:34:00] | gakalkag: | i did some investagation :) |
| [18:34:00] | juski: | some people probably think they can just split the feed ;) |
| [18:34:00] | dagfinnr: | it works with more than a box |
| [18:35:00] | Beirdo: | you can if you have the gear :) |
| [18:35:00] | Beirdo: | there is a way to do it, still need a dual LNB though |
| [18:35:00] | gakalkag: | i installed the card and i'm now trying to load the right module. |
| [18:38:00] | juski: | damn IT guys... they've blocked mp3, avi, zip, exe etc.. but not RAR, TAR, GZ or BZ2. hmm... like nasty stuff never comes in anything but zip or exe files |
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| [18:39:00] | gakalkag: | yeah: module loaded: dvb_core 83656 2 budget,budget_core |
| [18:40:00] | juski: | right.. I'm so outta here |
| [18:40:00] | juski: | laters guys |
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| [18:41:00] | sskk: | I'm trying to use my suse 10.0 box as frontend only, using the backend running on my ubuntu box. When I install mythtv on the suse (frontend) it asks for mysql connection. Is that a connection to a local mysql database which is used in a frontend-only environment, or is it the address to the backends mysql database? |
| [18:42:00] | gakalkag: | backend |
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| [18:50:00] | mentor: | meh |
| [18:51:00] | mentor: | Is their a page in the wiki about set top boxes and controlling htem? |
| [18:51:00] | mentor: | Else, which source code handles that? |
| [18:56:00] | mentor: | Ah right. |
| [18:56:00] | mentor: | Custom scripts in the channel changer directory |
| [18:56:00] | mentor: | ? |
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| [19:00:00] | xris: | mentor: I think there's some stuff in contrib |
| [19:01:00] | xris: | dunno about the wiki.. it's sort of in a state of flux at the moment |
| [19:03:00] | xris: | hmm, wiki.mythtv.org looks like it's coming along nicely |
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| [19:04:00] | Chutt: | xris, except for jochen's "contributions" |
| [19:04:00] | xris: | haven't dug that far. what happened? |
| [19:04:00] | Chutt: | everything's pretty much crap |
| [19:05:00] | xris: | Chutt: what does beirdo need to give you to get an acct on trac? we remembered he already has svn access, but he never got set up for trac |
| [19:05:00] | Beirdo: | oh not him again, wasn't laga bitching about jochen too? |
| [19:05:00] | Chutt: | horribly misspelled |
| [19:05:00] | Chutt: | one of his pages was a list of 'unofficial patches' |
| [19:05:00] | Beirdo: | oh nice |
| [19:05:00] | Chutt: | which was just a list of outdated link to trac bugs |
| [19:05:00] | xris: | geesch |
| [19:05:00] | Chutt: | i need a password, basically |
| [19:06:00] | Chutt: | do you have that email from back when i set trac up? |
| [19:06:00] | Beirdo: | No, unfortunately, my mail server was dead during that time |
| [19:06:00] | Chutt: | xris? |
| [19:06:00] | mentor: | By wiki, you mean channel wiki? |
| [19:06:00] | xris: | mentor: wiki.mythtv.org |
| [19:06:00] | mentor: | meh |
| [19:06:00] | Chutt: | oh, and his 'MythUnofficialPlugins' page includes things like themes, etc |
| [19:07:00] | mentor: | That's not linked from the frontpage is it? |
| [19:07:00] | Chutt: | no |
| [19:07:00] | xris: | Chutt: you're likely not on my auto-save list. is the file htdigest or htpasswd? |
| [19:07:00] | xris: | I'm having trouble finding it. |
| [19:07:00] | Chutt: | the wiki isn't technically 'live' yet |
| [19:07:00] | Chutt: | xris, htpasswd |
| [19:07:00] | xris: | Chutt: ahh |
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| [19:08:00] | xris: | Beirdo: htpasswd -c /dev/stdout beirdo |
| [19:08:00] | Beirdo: | aye |
| [19:08:00] | xris: | give Chutt the resulting line |
| [19:08:00] | xris: | someone had mentioned the feature request list on the wiki the other day.. I didn't realize the wiki was even as far along as it is. |
| [19:09:00] | Beirdo: | Chutt: email it to you? |
| [19:09:00] | Chutt: | sure, or just msg |
| [19:09:00] | Chutt: | xris, it's mostly done |
| [19:09:00] | Beirdo: | OK. |
| [19:09:00] | Chutt: | i'm just waiting for 19, really |
| [19:09:00] | Chutt: | that's not long enough |
| [19:09:00] | xris: | that's cool. it looks really nice. |
| [19:10:00] | Chutt: | Beirdo, stick a -m in there |
| [19:10:00] | ** Beirdo nods ** | |
| [19:10:00] | Beirdo: | one sec :) |
| [19:10:00] | Chutt: | xris, is the logo in the upper left cut off for you with the wiki? |
| [19:10:00] | xris: | yes |
| [19:10:00] | Chutt: | xris, oh, and btw, the new mythweb stuff looks nice |
| [19:10:00] | Beirdo: | MD5 it is :) |
| [19:10:00] | Chutt: | Beirdo, that's better |
| [19:10:00] | xris: | Chutt: thanks... it's a step in the right direction. |
| [19:11:00] | xris: | will probably redo the toolbar after .19 comes out... |
| [19:11:00] | xris: | hopefully joe will get the mobile themes updated soon, too |
| [19:11:00] | Chutt: | some stuff's not aligned, but that's probably just konq being weird. |
| [19:11:00] | Beirdo: | it doesn't like a too-small window in the recording list |
| [19:11:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [19:11:00] | Beirdo: | but I'll live with that :) |
| [19:12:00] | xris: | haha.. he includes all kind of stuff on the unofficial plugins page, but completely leaves off nuvexport. |
| [19:13:00] | xris: | I feel left out |
| [19:13:00] | Chutt: | i need to cull out the really dumb ideas and already implemented stuff from the feature request page |
| [19:13:00] | Beirdo: | I get to try to bring up my devel backend again. got 4 programs I REALLY want to record tonight at 10pm, only 3 tuners running |
| [19:13:00] | Chutt: | but then people might think i actually read it |
| [19:13:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:13:00] | Beirdo: | we couldn't have that :) |
| [19:13:00] | Chutt: | Beirdo, you should be all set. |
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| [19:13:00] | Beirdo: | thanks |
| [19:15:00] | xris: | Chutt: that's why I like trac for feature requests |
| [19:15:00] | xris: | then again, I never read the wiki. heh |
| [19:16:00] | Chutt: | i don't like the clutter |
| [19:16:00] | Chutt: | (in trac) |
| [19:16:00] | xris: | ahh |
| [19:16:00] | Chutt: | i like it being just a list of stuff that needs to happen |
| [19:17:00] | Chutt: | bugs, patches, tasks |
| [19:17:00] | xris: | I'll stop telling people to put requests in there, then. |
| [19:17:00] | Chutt: | eh, if it's something being actively worked on, that's different |
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| [19:19:00] | xris: | yeah. |
| [19:19:00] | xris: | just had this user bugging me on the mailing list about the "record-weekday" and "record-weekend" rectypes. wanted to know where he should put the request. |
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| [19:19:00] | Beirdo: | up his... oh wait, that's not polite |
| [19:19:00] | Chutt: | we don't need anymore recording types |
| [19:19:00] | xris: | I know |
| [19:20:00] | Chutt: | that's why there's the wiki =) |
| [19:20:00] | xris: | he doesn't seem to understand that myth is smart enough to differentiate between shows. |
| [19:20:00] | xris: | too bad lxmsuite disappeared. they'd have been a great place for feature requests. |
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| [19:21:00] | Chutt: | eh |
| [19:21:00] | stealth: | anyone use a sa3250 stb over firewire? |
| [19:21:00] | Chutt: | that reminds me, i need to remove the grabber stuff |
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| [19:22:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | I just upgraded to svn, and now my recordings from my pvr-350 are .mpg instead of nuv. is this a change in name only, or is the file an actual mpg? |
| [19:22:00] | xris: | I need to switch my lineup back to DD |
| [19:22:00] | Chutt: | JoeyJoeJo, name only, of course. |
| [19:22:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | thats what I figured |
| [19:22:00] | xris: | JoeyJoeJo: file has always been an actual mpeg |
| [19:22:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | I didn't think nupple was the same as mpg |
| [19:22:00] | xris: | it's not |
| [19:22:00] | xris: | but the pvr-x50 cards don't record nupplevideo |
| [19:23:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | then why does myth name the files .nuv? |
| [19:23:00] | kormoc: | JoeyJoeJo, habit. |
| [19:23:00] | xris: | it doesn't anymore, as you see |
| [19:24:00] | xris: | it was convention. files were chanid_starttime_endtime.nuv. in svn, there's now a database field for storing the filename, so it can be whatever you want. |
| [19:24:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | I see.. I though that there was something different about the file when it was named nuv |
| [19:24:00] | xris: | there's a script in contrib called mythrename.pl that will name them whatever you want |
| [19:24:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | cool |
| [19:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | Weird, I updated this morning and now mythweb appears to be randomly showing some shows as if I had recorded it when I definately never have |
| [19:26:00] | stealth: | with my firewire set top box, the setup should be port 0, node 1 ? |
| [19:27:00] | xris: | GreyFoxx: added a patch that highlights stuff in oldrecorded |
| [19:28:00] | xris: | so if you marked something as "never record" it'll hit those, too |
| [19:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | Hmmmm actually it appears to be every channel that has it's data inserted or updated by the EIT scanner |
| [19:28:00] | Beirdo: | ah neat |
| [19:28:00] | xris: | GreyFoxx: odd |
| [19:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | any show/event updated by the eit is showing as previously recorded |
| [19:29:00] | xris: | GreyFoxx: strange... what shows in the Notes popup? |
| [19:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | "This showing was recorded" |
| [19:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | and I know positively I have NEVER recorded "The Nanny" :) |
| [19:30:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [19:30:00] | Beirdo: | that annoying laugh |
| [19:31:00] | kormoc: | wait... that's a laugh? I thought it was some farm animal off screen... |
| [19:31:00] | Beirdo: | heheh. |
| [19:31:00] | Beirdo: | need... music |
| [19:31:00] | xris: | GreyFoxx: SELECT * FROM oldrecorded WHERE title LIKE '%nanny%'; |
| [19:32:00] | Beirdo: | got the damn Flintstones theme running in my head. not a good scene |
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| [19:32:00] | beavis: | Beirdo: your first commit :) congrats |
| [19:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | xris: That matches "Supernanny" |
| [19:32:00] | xris: | strange..... |
| [19:32:00] | Beirdo: | I think I committed to mythweb long ago too |
| [19:32:00] | Beirdo: | heh, but thanks |
| [19:32:00] | xris: | and nuvexport, back when it was in myth cvs |
| [19:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | Literally every show in my programs list that was filled in via the EIT is showing up as having been recorded |
| [19:32:00] | beavis: | Beirdo: you're one of "them" now :) |
| [19:32:00] | Beirdo: | true |
| [19:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'll grab a ccopy of one |
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| [19:33:00] | ** Beirdo cues Van Halen – 1984. This should fix Barney Rubble ** | |
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| [19:34:00] | xris: | GreyFoxx: haha.. ok, I think I see the issue |
| [19:34:00] | dasOp: | that'll keep 'jump' in your head for a day instead |
| [19:34:00] | Beirdo: | yup, it will :) |
| [19:34:00] | xris: | it's joined to oldrecorded with seriesid and programid... if those are blank, it'll likely match with some old show you already recorded before those fields were in the db. |
| [19:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | ahhh |
| [19:34:00] | xris: | put a ticket in trac and I'll fix it when I get home tonight. |
| [19:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | sweet |
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| [19:37:00] | stealth: | is there any docs anywhere on firewire capture from a sa3250? |
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| [19:39:00] | stealth: | on mythtv.org it says starting from the 0.17 release theres firewire capture from Motorola DCT-6200 + cousins, SA 3250, etc) |
| [19:40:00] | sphing: | stealth theres plenty... google it |
| [19:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | xris: I'll put in a trac ticket for that.... wonder if I can pull series ID and such from the EIT info. I think I saw it on the specs but we just don't look for it |
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| [19:43:00] | Kelerion: | okies – all converted to a public ip |
| [19:43:00] | Kelerion: | that was .. erm.. interesting.. lol |
| [19:44:00] | xris: | GreyFoxx: that'd be slick. still need to fix your bug, though. heh |
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| [19:45:00] | stealth: | sphing, not really.. when I google sa3250 mythtv all the threads come up as "omg time warner sucks, omg sa3250 w/ 1394?" not any .. "this is how you setup sa3250 with mythtv" |
| [19:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | xris: What's your trac username ? |
| [19:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | "xris" ? |
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| [19:50:00] | Beirdo: | I can't believe I actually had to turn DOWN Van Halen |
| [19:50:00] | Beirdo: | that's gotta be a first |
| [19:52:00] | _willcooke_: | from 11 to 10? |
| [19:52:00] | Beirdo: | hehe, from 11 to 9 or so |
| [19:52:00] | Beirdo: | Balance is a MUCH louder album than 1984 |
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| [19:55:00] | galorin: | Without using Lirc, and undoing loads of work already, can I set up a button on my remote (ati remote wonder) to execute a shell script? |
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| [20:02:00] | xris: | GreyFoxx: yes |
| [20:02:00] | xris: | but if you make it a mythweb bug, it should auto-assign to me |
| [20:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | cool, I did |
| [20:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | poking through the dvb EIT info now. I was sure I had seen a seriesid or something we could be pulling |
| [20:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | even if it's not complete for every show, if it's there we should grab it |
| [20:06:00] | macroexp: | since i've updated to 0.18.1, mythcommflag has decided that it's going to go through and flag every unflagged show. is this normal? I recorded a bunch off a channel with no commercials and they were just fine unflagged |
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| [20:07:00] | a1cypher: | Hello |
| [20:07:00] | macroexp: | my poor p2–450 is gonna be busy for a week flagging episodes of bob the builder... |
| [20:08:00] | EvilBob: | heh |
| [20:08:00] | deadguppy: | my mythtv will only record episodes of will and grace! helP! |
| [20:09:00] | a1cypher: | Anybody here know how to get firmware to properly load in gentoo? Dmesg says it cant find the firmware when it is plainly in the right place (and a few other places...) |
| [20:09:00] | kormoc: | a1cypher, what version of ivtv? |
| [20:10:00] | a1cypher: | its actually a firmware for lirc |
| [20:10:00] | kormoc: | ahh, nm then :) |
| [20:10:00] | a1cypher: | to get the ir blaster working |
| [20:10:00] | xris: | macroexp: install myth on another machine and run commflag there |
| [20:11:00] | Beirdo: | deadguppy: I hope you learn to like the show :) |
| [20:11:00] | a1cypher: | anyway, the problem seems to be a generic problem with gentoo hotplug. A problem that others I know have had with other firmware and they are stumped as well. |
| [20:11:00] | macroexp: | oh, it is on a separate machine. but the shows i'm recording now are all backing up in the queue while commflag flags unflagged stuff from months ago |
| [20:12:00] | xris: | ahh |
| [20:12:00] | xris: | can just keep running commflag on all of your machines. |
| [20:12:00] | macroexp: | not a bad idea, i'll throw a few more cpus at it |
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| [20:18:00] | bhobw: | im possibly being dumb here but...: in videos I can set a parental level per video. If my startup level is defined as '1' i then CANT see the video whilst browsing. How does an adult then view the video – do i have to go into the video management section and redefine the video as level 1 temporarily, then reset it back once I viewed it?? This seems a very dumb way of doing it... anyone know? |
| [20:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | Can't say I've ever even looked at any of that myself |
| [20:19:00] | bhobw: | guess you dont have young kids GreyFoxx :-) |
| [20:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | I have a 2 year old |
| [20:20:00] | Beirdo: | or young enough :) |
| [20:20:00] | Beirdo: | just keep yer pr0n off the mythbox :) |
| [20:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | she pulls up her own videos all the time :) |
| [20:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | she can recognize Dora the explorer in the Watch Recordings window and play that, or nagivate mythvideo to get baby einstein up |
| [20:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | freaked me out the first time she did it |
| [20:21:00] | bhobw: | thanks Bierdo ... but its not pr0n, just 15 and 18 rated movies and music videos |
| [20:21:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [20:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | Beirdo: nah, honestly I' |
| [20:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | d never hide any of the stuff. |
| [20:21:00] | Beirdo: | kids are a lot smarter than many adults give them credit for |
| [20:21:00] | bhobw: | i genuinely dont want my 7yr old watching late night stuff |
| [20:22:00] | bhobw: | so.... anyone know? |
| [20:22:00] | Beirdo: | not off hand, nope |
| [20:22:00] | bhobw: | ok thanks Beirdo – I'll re-ask the question in a while incase anyone's come online that has an answer |
| [20:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | bhobw: According to the MythVideo README file you just hit the button 1–4 to jump to the proper level |
| [20:23:00] | Beirdo: | I have never bothered to use such stuff on my system |
| [20:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | It will stay at that level until you move to another level or leave mythvideo |
| [20:23:00] | Beirdo: | one of the joys of being an adult with no dependants |
| [20:23:00] | bhobw: | GreyFoxx.... hmmm the old README eh? (head hanging low....) – at what point do i hit 1–4? |
| [20:24:00] | bhobw: | presumably in the opening display? |
| [20:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . video/README |
| [20:24:00] | bhobw: | thanks Grey... |
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| [20:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've never actually tried it, but supposedly it does it |
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| [20:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | But then I also don't pull any of my stuff into the video manager, I just navigate the video list as the file system :) |
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| [20:29:00] | Beakster: | hi |
| [20:29:00] | Beakster: | "Error opening audio device (/dev/dsp1), the error was no such device" i cant find where to change this. I have changed it in the setup program, is there anywhere else? |
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| [20:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | under mythfrontend in setup there is some audio output settings as well |
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| [20:30:00] | jonase: | i can't get mythstreamtv to work! when i push "start live stream" i get http://pastebin.ca/37111 |
| [20:31:00] | Beakster: | GreyFoxx, I cant find anywhere that /dev/dsp1 is set though, can u point me in the right direction? |
| [20:31:00] | jonase: | im on PAL (if you need to know) |
| [20:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | Beakster: I don't remember exactly where |
| [20:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | You'll have to look trhough all of the frontend setup options and screens |
| [20:33:00] | Ryushin: | Under Setup, General if I rememember right. |
| [20:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | stuart: I've got those patches broken out now |
| [20:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | doh, he's not here |
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| [20:43:00] | jonase: | anyone got a clue? |
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| [20:57:00] | Beakster: | hi |
| [20:57:00] | Beakster: | if i want to delete a mythtv recording can i just delete the file? |
| [20:58:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [20:58:00] | Beirdo: | delete it from mythweb or the frontend |
| [20:59:00] | Beirdo: | if you are in a rush to get disk space, cat /dev/null > recording to reclaim the space |
| [20:59:00] | Beirdo: | but if you delete it, you'll have interesting times later when the frontend or backend tries to access a non-existant file |
| [21:00:00] | Beakster: | thanks Beakster :) |
| [21:01:00] | _willcooke_: | :) |
| [21:01:00] | Beakster: | oops |
| [21:01:00] | Beakster: | thank Beirdo |
| [21:01:00] | Beakster: | :) |
| [21:01:00] | Beirdo: | not a problem |
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| [21:26:00] | _willcooke_: | Is there a way to "lock" a recorded programme so that it can't be used by myth for a little while? I want to move a programme between backends and I dont want anyone to play it while it's copying. I suppose I could delete the entry in the dbase and then add it back in again once the copy has finished. |
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| [21:55:00] | ** xris kicks himself for never actually looking up what mysql's IFNULL function did. ** | |
| [21:55:00] | ** xris thanks kormoc for good diligence. ** | |
| [21:55:00] | ** xris ponders how to get his other minion to hang out here, too... ** | |
| [21:55:00] | xris: | brb |
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| [22:10:00] | defII: | Do I need to backup /proc if I'm mirroring a disk? |
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| [22:11:00] | ** stuarta *rofl* ** | |
| [22:12:00] | stuarta: | short answer: NO. |
| [22:12:00] | Beirdo: | that qualifies as a cute newbie question, I think |
| [22:13:00] | stuarta: | Linux101 |
| [22:14:00] | sphing: | Beirdo: that cute comment is cute |
| [22:14:00] | jasta: | /proc might contain at least one file that you might want to backup. |
| [22:14:00] | defII: | I asked this earlier thinking that the "files" were created at boot |
| [22:14:00] | stuarta: | the files don't exist |
| [22:14:00] | jasta: | defII: They are not files. It is a filesystem module that operates as an interface to the kernel. |
| [22:14:00] | Beirdo: | jasta: you can't mirror /proc, /proc is autogenerated by the kernel |
| [22:14:00] | sphing: | the files arent real |
| [22:14:00] | jasta: | Beirdo: I know, and it may contain at least one file that you might want to backup. :) |
| [22:14:00] | defII: | jasta, Isn't everything in linux a "file"? |
| [22:15:00] | jasta: | Beirdo: I'll give you a cookie if you can guess which one. |
| [22:15:00] | jasta: | defII: No, in fact, they are not. |
| [22:15:00] | sphing: | config? |
| [22:15:00] | Beirdo: | none of em |
| [22:15:00] | jasta: | A file is an entry on a filesystem. Filesystems have other types of entries as well. |
| [22:15:00] | defII: | jasta, I don't mean a real file they just appear to be files |
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| [22:15:00] | jasta: | Every resource, however, is an entry on a filesystem, whether named or not. |
| [22:16:00] | jasta: | That does not make it a file though. It puts it in the same class of objects as a file, though. |
| [22:16:00] | defII: | So its safe to say that /dev dosent need to be synced either? |
| [22:16:00] | jasta: | defII: No, it does not. /dev is often virtual as well. |
| [22:16:00] | defII: | jasta, cool |
| [22:16:00] | jasta: | Or it is mounted using tmpfs, which is not virtual, but it is useless across boots. |
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| [22:17:00] | paulkoan: | jasta: which one? |
| [22:18:00] | jasta: | defII: Anyway, you may be interested in copying /proc/config if your kernel provides it :) |
| [22:18:00] | sphing: | jasta i want my cookie |
| [22:18:00] | jasta: | Yes, sphing gets a cookie. |
| [22:18:00] | paulkoan: | no /proc/config and no cookie. |
| [22:18:00] | paulkoan: | What is in it normally? |
| [22:18:00] | defII: | Ok so what about the MBR, if im moving my install to a different sized physical drive do I also copy the MBR or is that only for that particular drive? |
| [22:19:00] | sphing: | /proc/config/gz |
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| [22:19:00] | sphing: | /proc/config.gz |
| [22:19:00] | jasta: | paulkoan: If your kernel is built with that support, it is the compile-time configuration that the running kernel was built against. |
| [22:20:00] | jasta: | The .config file in the kernel source tree. |
| [22:20:00] | paulkoan: | Oh.. that would be cool |
| [22:20:00] | jasta: | It is quite useful when you have built a custom kernel. |
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| [22:20:00] | defII: | no /proc/config here |
| [22:20:00] | paulkoan: | Not present in ubuntu vanilla kernel |
| [22:20:00] | sphing: | defII: /proc/config.gz |
| [22:20:00] | defII: | sphing, not there |
| [22:21:00] | paulkoan: | Which is a shame, cos I have often wanted to check stuff |
| [22:21:00] | sphing: | defII: its not there at all? |
| [22:21:00] | sphing: | its a kernel option, so it maybe not have been enables in the kernel you're running |
| [22:22:00] | defII: | sphing, possibly, is it worth enabling? |
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| [22:22:00] | defII: | What about my MBR question any takers? |
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| [22:23:00] | defII: | I take it /sys is also absent from the rsync? |
| [22:24:00] | galorin: | I've set up my .xsession to start up mtd and mythtv. How can I assign programs to keypresses on my ATI Remote Wonder? |
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| [22:26:00] | defII: | lol I thought I was in the #gentoo channel... |
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| [22:26:00] | defII: | Sorry guys i was a little off topic |
| [22:28:00] | xris: | galorin: what are you using to drive the remote? or is it acting as a keyboard? |
| [22:29:00] | galorin: | xris, acting as a keyboard |
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| [22:30:00] | galorin: | ati_remote module, not lirc module |
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| [22:33:00] | fatmatt: | anyone here in Australia know where I can buy an IR keyboard? |
| [22:33:00] | fatmatt: | trying to program my harmony 880, the online thing is hopeless |
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| [22:50:00] | xris: | galorin: dunno that you can |
| [22:51:00] | travolta-: | galorin, probably depends on your windows manager |
| [22:51:00] | macroexp: | galorin, what about something like lineak? |
| [22:51:00] | macroexp: | http://lineak.sourceforge.net/ |
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| [22:55:00] | galorin: | macroexp, lineak? |
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| [22:55:00] | galorin: | and I don't think a wm is loading |
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| [22:57:00] | doc_: | hello |
| [22:58:00] | galorin: | ahh, lineak, |
| [22:58:00] | galorin: | I see |
| [23:00:00] | kormoc: | galorin, you really should use a WM with myth, or you might experence focus issues with some plugins and similar |
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| [23:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | \\\\ |
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| [23:07:00] | doc_: | mmm does any one use debian with ppc ? |
| [23:07:00] | john34: | hi all |
| [23:07:00] | doc_: | hi john34 |
| [23:07:00] | john34: | doc i nedd some help |
| [23:08:00] | john34: | i cant seem to load ivtv |
| [23:08:00] | doc_: | urg... |
| [23:08:00] | john34: | sorry sorry... what channel should i go for help |
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| [23:10:00] | doc_: | uh... this is the right one, but i've not used ivtv, sorry :/ |
| [23:10:00] | john34: | what kind of card do you use |
| [23:10:00] | doc_: | pinnacle pc tv |
| [23:11:00] | doc_: | bttv848, essentially |
| [23:11:00] | john34: | anyone here user pvr-250 |
| [23:12:00] | galorin: | kormoc, so something like load twm and then caaall mythfrontend |
| [23:13:00] | kormoc: | galorin, that would be recommended, aye |
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| [23:18:00] | galorin: | hmm, I guess that'd explain some of the focus issues that I've been having as well. |
| [23:19:00] | john34: | I need some help "i cant seem to load ivtv to see my pvr-250" anyone out there" |
| [23:19:00] | galorin: | As long as I get the login screen when exiting mythtv, all will be good |
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| [23:41:00] | john34: | I need some help "i cant seem to load ivtv to see my pvr-250" anyone out there" |
| [23:43:00] | nick3_: | Hello, I'm having a lot of "prebuffering pause" errors when I try to watch anything with Mythfrontend (Live TV or Recorded). I can play recorded files just fine with mplayer without any hiccups. "mplayer /dev/video0" works fine as well. I've got a PVR-500, so I don't think CPU utilization is a problem. It seems like only Mythfrontend is having a problem. |
| [23:43:00] | nick3_: | john34, what do you get when you try to modprobe ivtv |
| [23:45:00] | kormoc: | nick3_, did you check CPU utilization before ruling it out? |
| [23:46:00] | fryfrog: | nick3_: it uses not much cpu to record, but playback will still use cpu... so if you have a p233mmx or something :) |
| [23:46:00] | nick3_: | hmm... mythfrontend is taking up all my CPU |
| [23:46:00] | nick3_: | I've got an AMD Athlon XP 2100+ |
| [23:47:00] | nick3_: | Oh, I've also never had this problem before (I've been running myth for about 1.5 years on this machine) |
| [23:47:00] | fryfrog: | i do it on a 1600+, so thats not too bad |
| [23:47:00] | kormoc: | nick3_, are you using a nvidia card? |
| [23:47:00] | nick3_: | It appears that the problem may have started when I did an "emerge --update world" |
| [23:47:00] | nick3_: | kormoc, yes |
| [23:47:00] | nick3_: | kormoc, I'm using the NVIDIA drivers as well |
| [23:47:00] | kormoc: | nick3_, downgrade to nvidia driver 7676 or lower |
| [23:47:00] | kormoc: | nick3_, there's a bug in the current 8xxx drivers that cause that |
| [23:48:00] | fryfrog: | nick3_: i'd suggest "emerge -uDNav world" in the future |
| [23:48:00] | fryfrog: | nick3_: as well as what kormoc suggests :) |
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| [23:48:00] | nick3_: | nvidia-kernel-1.0.7676-r1.ebuild |
| [23:48:00] | nick3_: | Is that one ok? |
| [23:48:00] | kormoc: | nick3_, yup |
| [23:49:00] | fryfrog: | you'd use "emerge =nvidia-kernel-1.0.7676-r1" btw |
| [23:49:00] | nick3_: | I got that ;) |
| [23:49:00] | jonase: | http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread . . . um_id=435048 could you help me with this? |
| [23:50:00] | fryfrog: | does the 8xxx series cause *myth* to use a lot of cpu or X to? |
| [23:50:00] | kormoc: | fryfrog, it causes anything that uses opengl vsync to eat cpu, in this case, mythfrontend |
| [23:51:00] | nick3_: | brb |
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| [23:54:00] | fryfrog: | ahhh |
| [23:55:00] | fryfrog: | so you could *also* optionally turn off vsync? |
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| [23:55:00] | nick3_: | Thanks, that fixed the problem |
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| [23:55:00] | kormoc: | fryfrog, sadly, it doesn't seem like setting vsync=0 via nvidia-settings or the env var works |
| [23:55:00] | Cardoe: | damnit |
| [23:55:00] | Cardoe: | why won't ivtv compile for me!? |
| [23:55:00] | ** Cardoe kicks it. ** | |
| [23:55:00] | kormoc: | fryfrog, in svn, there is an option to turn off openg vsync that works as well |
| [23:56:00] | sphing: | Cardoe: i think it works now |
| [23:56:00] | fryfrog: | Cardoe: 0.4.2? |
| [23:56:00] | ** Cardoe kicks again for good measure. ** | |
| [23:56:00] | Cardoe: | yes 0.4.2 |
| [23:56:00] | sphing: | it always does in the movies |
| [23:56:00] | Cardoe: | otherwise it would have been in the tree |
| [23:56:00] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: your ebuild has problems. |
| [23:56:00] | Cardoe: | or whoever submitted it now. |
| [23:56:00] | fryfrog: | did you try the slightly updated one? |
| [23:56:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, cause of the error in line #422, you can't cast a void void ****** into a signed int, sorry. |
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| [23:57:00] | ** kormoc would actually love to see code that tried doing that, cause it would be full of other wacky fun ** | |
| [23:57:00] | john34: | I need some help "i cant seem to load ivtv to see my pvr-250" anyone out there" |
| [23:58:00] | fryfrog: | john34: come up with some more details, such as a pastebin.com of your dmesg output |
| [23:58:00] | fryfrog: | as well as anything else you might think is useful |
| [23:58:00] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: it's bad ivtv code! |
| [23:58:00] | fryfrog: | "i need some help, i can't seem to see" :) |
| [23:58:00] | fryfrog: | bad ivtv, bad! |
| [23:58:00] | xris: | ok, time to build a new myth checkoiut |
| [23:58:00] | fryfrog: | but 0.4.2 compiled and is working nicely on my system :) |
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| [23:59:00] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: no no. |
| [23:59:00] | fryfrog: | and the air2pc drivers in 2.6.15 kernel I think are nicer too |
| [23:59:00] | Cardoe: | he's using the WRONG includes. |
| [23:59:00] | xris: | fryfrog: oh? in what way? |
| [23:59:00] | Cardoe: | which are left behind in x86 by accident. |
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| [23:59:00] | Cardoe: | which will be removed from 2.6.15 with the next 2.6.15.x release |
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