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Sunday, January 15th, 2006, 00:00 UTC
[00:00:00] dagfinnr: i get black and white colors Juski, when booting its colored, but when entering x it becomes black and white
[00:00:00] dagfinnr: can i see your xorg.conf file?
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[00:14:00] sjaakz0r: anyone here who knows how nvtv works
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[00:17:00] a1cypher: I have a quick question. When I do this: mplayer /dev/v4l/video0 mplayer opens the mpeg2 stream from my card and plays it just fine. However, when I try to watch tv in myth, it jitters (prebuffering pause). It even does this when playing a previous recording. Any ideas?
[00:19:00] a1cypher: Some people said elsewhere that this is often a problem with a mismatch in resolution, but this is not the case.
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[00:21:00] OPP: hello
[00:22:00] OPP: I have a question, Im on windows still, is there anything comparable or anyhthing even decent i can use for a substitute for mythtv
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[00:24:00] dasOp: gbpvr perhaps?
[00:25:00] OPP: ok
[00:25:00] OPP: ill goog it
[00:25:00] Krazylegz: Run MythTV on Cygwin? :-)
[00:25:00] OPP: lol
[00:26:00] OPP: im not sure what that is
[00:26:00] OPP: but
[00:26:00] OPP: im sure it would be a pain
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[00:27:00] sosumi: the frontend or backend or both?
[00:28:00] OPP: i think im fine with this one that i have
[00:28:00] OPP: but
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[00:28:00] OPP: i dont get how xmltv works
[00:28:00] sosumi: you in northamerica ?
[00:28:00] sosumi: you use zap2it
[00:29:00] OPP: ya
[00:29:00] OPP: USA
[00:29:00] cosmo_: I gave up on cygwin, since mythfrontend whines about missing xvideo-extension
[00:31:00] sosumi: setup mythweb and you can watch on windows frontend thru browser
[00:31:00] OPP: cool
[00:31:00] OPP: but is it good quality?
[00:31:00] sosumi: yea
[00:32:00] sosumi: but no commercial skipping thru mythweb
[00:32:00] eiggirC: would mythfrontend actually work in cygwin ?
[00:32:00] eiggirC: serious question there
[00:32:00] sosumi: maybe with some configureing
[00:32:00] sosumi: mythtv-setup works in cygwin
[00:34:00] Juski: dagfinnr: I have a feeling we've been here before.. or maybe it was someone else..
[00:35:00] Juski: anyway dagfinnr: you using svideo or composite out? PAL or NTSC?
[00:35:00] laga: heya Juski ;)
[00:36:00] sjaakz0r: I have a white line on the left of my tv screen and a small white stripe on the bottom
[00:36:00] Juski: hiya laga
[00:36:00] sjaakz0r: any way to get rid of this?
[00:36:00] laga: Juski: sup?
[00:36:00] Juski: sobered up dammit :)
[00:37:00] Juski: sjaakz0r: using TV out? try setting overscan a little higher until you no longer see the lines... overscan can be used to 'zoom' into the picture ;)
[00:37:00] Juski: dagfinnr: one xorg.conf coming up
[00:37:00] laga: Juski: wow, that sucks. you should do something about that ;)
[00:38:00] Juski: laga: no beer.. and no ice :(
[00:39:00] sjaakz0r: I can set overscan % ?
[00:39:00] Juski: dagfinnr: www.juski.co.uk/xorg.conf
[00:39:00] Juski: sure you can set overscan.. if you're using a nvidia card just use nvidia-settings
[00:39:00] sjaakz0r: it's not only on tv-out juski also on monitor
[00:40:00] laga: Juski: put your favourite hard drink into the freezer ;)
[00:40:00] Juski: well you'll have to live with it on your monitor, sjaakz0r
[00:40:00] Juski: nah laga: got to be up early tomorrow.. got stuff to do on my car
[00:40:00] sjaakz0r: it's weird shit
[00:41:00] sjaakz0r: because on the direct input from the videocard there's also that small line
[00:41:00] Juski: sjaakzor: I'll tell you why it happens...
[00:41:00] dagfinnr: thnx Juski, *trying*
[00:41:00] laga: sjaakz0r: i think you can set some kind of zoom mode in mythtv (settings -> tv -> playback). that should take care of it.
[00:42:00] Juski: video signals from TV cards, video recorders etc have areas you're never intended to see.. they're areas that a TV wouldn't show because all TVs overscan.. you're seeing them because you can see the whole of the captured signal
[00:43:00] dagfinnr: Juski, youre an angel :)
[00:43:00] Juski: dagfinnr: my xorg.conf is set up for svideo out, on PAL btw
[00:44:00] dagfinnr: ok
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[00:44:00] dagfinnr: Juski, works almost perfect now, only the image isnt covering all the screen in the width..
[00:45:00] Juski: dagfinnr: try a different resolution then.. 720x576 for PAL
[00:45:00] Juski: or 720x480 for NTSC
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[00:45:00] Juski: btw laga: sorted out my cat5 video thing once & for all – had a capacitor in the wrong place
[00:45:00] dagfinnr: k
[00:46:00] dagfinnr: its weird Juski, cuz the image is filling the screen everytime except when watching video
[00:46:00] Juski: and now, both ends are nicely boxed up
[00:46:00] dagfinnr: video/livetv
[00:46:00] Juski: dagfinnr: have you got 'use GUI size for playback' set?
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[00:46:00] Juski: if so, turn it off
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[00:47:00] dagfinnr: hm, i dunno..where is that setting?
[00:47:00] dagfinnr: in mythtvsetup?
[00:47:00] Juski: mythfrontend – settings – tv – playback
[00:47:00] macroexp: any directv users using serial control (as opposed to ir blaster)
[00:47:00] macroexp: ?
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[00:48:00] macroexp: i've got a D11 stb and it's driving me nuts
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[00:49:00] dagfinnr: Juski, i cant find such an option under the tvsettings -> playback ? weird ..
[00:49:00] dagfinnr: do you mean aspect override?
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[00:50:00] GreyFoxx: No, it;s there somewhere
[00:50:00] dagfinnr: or xv picture controls?
[00:51:00] dagfinnr: hm
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[00:52:00] Juski: utilities/setup > setup > TV > playback
[00:52:00] slide: Whats the command when im viewing my movies list to go to the menu to download a cover image and get its info from imdb?
[00:53:00] Juski: ah shit... it's in Appearance.. lol
[00:53:00] a1cypher: Why is it that I keep getting prebuffering pauses all over the place. Regardless of whether I am watching live tv or playing a recording.
[00:53:00] dagfinnr: Juski, sorry, maybe im blind ..
[00:53:00] dagfinnr: ah
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[00:53:00] a1cypher: and my resolutions are set properly
[00:53:00] dagfinnr: im not blind after all :P
[00:53:00] GreyFoxx: slide: It in the video manager I believe, not in the list or gallery
[00:53:00] ** Juski must be less sober than he thought, in that case **
[00:54:00] slide: GreyFoxx, im in the Video Manager i believe
[00:54:00] GreyFoxx: hit I or M, one of those
[00:54:00] Juski: video manager.. select the video you want to scan... then hit I
[00:54:00] Juski: 2nd option on the popup menu
[00:55:00] slide: ok so maybe im not in the video manager... hrm i cant seem to find it
[00:55:00] slide: ahh n/m
[00:56:00] slide: ty :)
[00:56:00] a1cypher: should my X resolution be the same as the capture card? ie 720x480 ?
[00:56:00] Juski: utils/setup > video manager
[00:56:00] xris: sometimes I just don't like javascript...
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[00:56:00] xris: no good way to make this interface in mythweb work properly without ajax, or losing functionality
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[00:58:00] a1cypher: mythtv seems glitchy... it doesn't play properly unless I pause for a few seconds first, and after a while of recording from the card my remote stops working.
[00:58:00] slide: now if only i can get my xbox frontend to work heh
[00:59:00] sosumi: Q: can i set the time stretch to 1.2x as default playback speed ?
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[01:00:00] GreyFoxx: sosumi: Hmmm, I don't think I' ve seen anythng to do that
[01:00:00] GreyFoxx: That would be interesting if it's not there
[01:00:00] a1cypher: what does timestretch do?
[01:00:00] GreyFoxx: a1cypher: change the playback speed
[01:00:00] GreyFoxx: faster or slower than normal
[01:00:00] a1cypher: why would you want to watch faster or slower?
[01:00:00] GreyFoxx: I often watch at 1.4–1.5
[01:01:00] a1cypher: does it make everyones voice squeky ?
[01:01:00] sosumi: so you can watch a 30 min show in 20 or 25 min
[01:01:00] GreyFoxx: a1f: If you plaqy it too fast i can
[01:01:00] GreyFoxx: but most of the time you can't tell until you get over 1.4
[01:01:00] a1cypher: I see
[01:01:00] GreyFoxx: after watching at high speed it's "weird" going back to normal heh
[01:01:00] sosumi: over 1.2x i can tell
[01:01:00] a1cypher: Any of you use a Hauppauge 150 ?
[01:02:00] sosumi: pvr 250
[01:02:00] GreyFoxx: 250's here
[01:02:00] a1cypher: Have you ever heard of the problem where the i2c gets overloaded or something after watching video so that the remote controll stops working?
[01:02:00] sosumi: never had that problem
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[01:03:00] a1cypher: And the only way I can get it to start again is to shutdown the computer (so that it physically looses power) and start it again.
[01:03:00] GreyFoxx: not particularly, but I don't use a remote that plus into my pvr cards
[01:03:00] Juski: sosumi: 150 here
[01:03:00] GreyFoxx: plugs
[01:03:00] Juski: anyone here send video & stereo audio signals over CAT5? I do! :-D
[01:03:00] Juski: :-P
[01:03:00] GreyFoxx: how do you power it ?
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[01:04:00] GreyFoxx: what kind of distance can you get before noticable degradation
[01:04:00] GreyFoxx: ?
[01:04:00] sosumi: over cat5?
[01:04:00] GreyFoxx: he made himself a toy
[01:04:00] Juski: we've got a big reel of CAT5 at work... switched at 0m, 300m, 600m and 900m
[01:05:00] Juski: 300m – no noticable difference
[01:05:00] Juski: 600m – looked like it'd been on VHS tape
[01:05:00] GreyFoxx: I was wondering if I could use a dumb hub to "split" it into multiple lines
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[01:05:00] Juski: 900m – monochrome & very fuzzy
[01:05:00] dagfinnr: everything works fine now Juski, thanks ALOT :)
[01:06:00] Juski: GreyFoxx: you would just make a bunch of commoned sockets & have only one box have termination resistors in it
[01:07:00] Juski: sosumi: I just use the 8 wires in the cat5 cable to send audio & video down in 'balanced' (differential) form
[01:07:00] SqWaw: GreyFoxx, I've looked at my mythtv database, the channel table, and the row called icon
[01:07:00] SqWaw: and its blank :(
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[01:07:00] Juski: got pics of the finished box : http://www.juski.co.uk/images/cat5_2.png
[01:08:00] Juski: dagfinnr: my pleasure :)
[01:08:00] SqWaw: thats a mythbox?
[01:08:00] SqWaw: ooo nvm
[01:08:00] Juski: yeh.. mythtv & media server.. the lot
[01:08:00] Juski: lol
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[01:09:00] sosumi: looks neat, you make it?
[01:09:00] Juski: no it's just the receiver box for my gadget
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[01:09:00] Juski: I plan to make diagrams etc available at some point
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[01:09:00] fdsd: hey guys, when does .19 come out, this week?
[01:10:00] ** Juski thinks 0.19 should be delayed some more **
[01:10:00] fdsd: no bad idea
[01:10:00] Juski: fdsd: when it's ready!
[01:10:00] sosumi: how you send the signal thru the cat5 cable?
[01:10:00] Juski: mythtv is like the Grolsch
[01:10:00] sosumi: what do you run on your pc?
[01:11:00] GreyFoxx: Juski: Nifty
[01:11:00] Juski: sosumi: it's transmitted by analogue means
[01:11:00] sosumi: so on both ends it has that device?
[01:11:00] Juski: I convert the signals to ones suitable to go over cat5 cable & convert it back at the other end
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[01:11:00] Juski: you can already buy them for like $100 a pair
[01:11:00] Juski: but I had the bits lying around
[01:12:00] fdsd: I run a dual 2.4ghz xeon machine with 1.5gb ram, and 500gb drive. and a raptior sata 10k rpm for the main drive
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[01:12:00] Juski: 1.5gb RAM.. bit of overkill for a mythtv system innit?
[01:12:00] laga: fdsd: i run a p3 450 with 384mb ram and no drive. who is better? ;)
[01:12:00] Juski: so's the raptor drive in all honestly
[01:12:00] fdsd: Juski, its my main desktop
[01:13:00] Juski: god, for SDTV you could use an ATA33 drive in PIO mode4
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[01:13:00] fdsd: but I use a 250 card, so I dont need good specs anyways
[01:14:00] fdsd: I want dual 250 cards
[01:14:00] Juski: recorded 3 shows at the same time today as a test.. CPU usage was 5%
[01:14:00] fdsd: so many times I want to record something and watch tv at the same time
[01:14:00] GreyFoxx: Juski: sweet :)
[01:14:00] laga: fdsd: dual 250? uh, pvr 500?
[01:15:00] Juski: GreyFoxx: indeed :)
[01:15:00] fdsd: laga, whats a pvr 500?
[01:15:00] GreyFoxx: fdsd: Yeah, I often record multiple shows at once
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[01:16:00] ** Juski is worried about the current trend in affordable motherboards having 3 or less PCI slots **
[01:16:00] GreyFoxx: yeah
[01:16:00] fdsd: who would buy a microatx motherboard
[01:16:00] fdsd: blah
[01:17:00] laga: fdsd: well, a dual pvr 150. :)
[01:17:00] sosumi: fdsd, pvr500 = 2x(pvr250) in one card
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[01:17:00] fdsd: sosumi, really? so the ivtv drivers work with it?
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[01:17:00] GreyFoxx: sosumi: Actually, it's 2 150's., but that's just splitting hairs :)
[01:17:00] fdsd: sosumi, do I have to do anything funky to get it to work?
[01:17:00] Juski: they can keep their PCI express & SLI junk.. I dont need 100 fps in 2048x1024 with all the nice effects turned on
[01:17:00] sosumi: dunno
[01:17:00] red_fox: is it possible to install the svn version of mythgame and keep mythtv at 0.18.1?
[01:17:00] GreyFoxx: red_fox: Nope
[01:17:00] Juski: red_fox: no
[01:18:00] red_fox: I'm getting some complier errors
[01:18:00] red_fox: haha alright
[01:18:00] fdsd: GreyFoxx, so whats the difference in having 1 500 and 2 250s?
[01:18:00] fdsd: and/or
[01:18:00] GreyFoxx: fdsd: 1 pci slot versus 2
[01:18:00] GreyFoxx: for the most part :)
[01:18:00] Juski: tempted to try mythgame one of these days.. but if I do I might never have time to watch telly
[01:18:00] fdsd: GreyFoxx, what about quality
[01:18:00] fdsd: GreyFoxx, or speed
[01:18:00] fdsd: GreyFoxx, or compatablity
[01:18:00] Juski: fdsd: no difference
[01:19:00] GreyFoxx: fdsd: well the 500 is really 2 150's, and the 150 and 250 differ slightly in chipset, and some say slightly in visual quality, but likely nothing you would see
[01:19:00] red_fox: fdsd, the 500 is probably cheaper than 2 250s ;-)
[01:19:00] Juski: if anything the quality is reckoned to be slightly better
[01:19:00] fdsd: red_fox, well I have 1 250 card now
[01:19:00] laga: Juski: mythgame is fun! maybe i can help you with extracting the roms from your old game cartidges, if you know what i mean.
[01:19:00] red_fox: fdsd, you could get a 500 and have 3 inputs :-D
[01:19:00] Juski: bearing in mind the pvr250 is getting harder & harder to find all the time
[01:19:00] GreyFoxx: Juski: Hehe I use to use it all the time, I've been tobusy lately :)
[01:20:00] Juski: laga: that'd be cool
[01:20:00] red_fox: should upgrading to the svn version of mythtv worry me?
[01:20:00] fdsd: Juski, is it?
[01:20:00] Juski: can it run Atari 800 games?
[01:20:00] GreyFoxx: Juski: With the right emulator
[01:20:00] Juski: wicked
[01:20:00] fdsd: where can you buy a 500 card?
[01:21:00] Juski: fdsd: in the UK you can't buy em retail (the pvr250) anymore
[01:21:00] red_fox: I got my 150 from newegg
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[01:21:00] fdsd: Juski, that sucks, I bought mine like a year ago
[01:21:00] Juski: fdsd: that's progress
[01:21:00] fdsd: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815116628
[01:21:00] fdsd: is that it?
[01:21:00] fdsd: its MCE card though
[01:21:00] Juski: I don't think they were still available even a year ago here
[01:22:00] Juski: fdsd: makes no odds
[01:22:00] GreyFoxx: fdsd: the 500 only comes in MCE version
[01:22:00] fdsd: I hate that its branded with that
[01:22:00] Juski: difference with MCE versions is that they don't come with remotes
[01:22:00] fdsd: GreyFoxx, what drivers do you use? ivtv?
[01:22:00] fdsd: ah, I dont use remotes anyways
[01:22:00] GreyFoxx: fdsd: those are the only *nix drivers for those cards
[01:22:00] Juski: great! you mean they don't supply a $1.00 crappy remote?
[01:23:00] fdsd: GreyFoxx, so it works?
[01:23:00] GreyFoxx: What works ?
[01:23:00] fdsd: GreyFoxx, so If I just popped one in, I wouldnt have to reconfigure anything? ivtv would see both tuners?
[01:23:00] Juski: fdsd: course it works.. hundreds if not thousands of people are using them in linux
[01:23:00] GreyFoxx: depending on the version of the driver you have you might need a newer version, but that's usually about it
[01:24:00] fdsd: Juski, no I meant with ivtv
[01:24:00] Juski: fdsd: here's the deal: it's like having two independent tuner cards in one card
[01:24:00] Juski: so you've got /dev/video0 and /dev/video1
[01:24:00] fdsd: what do you have to do in mythtv to see them?
[01:24:00] GreyFoxx: You will also need to install the proper firmware
[01:24:00] Juski: add another card
[01:24:00] GreyFoxx: rerun mythtv-setup
[01:24:00] GreyFoxx: add the 2 new cards
[01:24:00] fdsd: ok
[01:24:00] Juski: ding!
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[01:25:00] fdsd: so the firmware is easy to download and install?
[01:25:00] jonK: i have problems wiht a 350 and a 500 in the same box
[01:25:00] Juski: oh, and remember to set the new cards up as MPEG2 encoder cards
[01:25:00] jonK: firmware comes with the cards
[01:25:00] jonK: on cd
[01:25:00] Juski: or by download from shspvr's FTP site
[01:25:00] dagfinnr: .. and there i was back to start AGAIN, livetv still locks up .. i rebooted..im THIS far from blowing up the whole box, arrgh
[01:25:00] fdsd: jonK, different firmware then the 250 card?
[01:25:00] Juski: same I think
[01:26:00] jonK: nope
[01:26:00] GreyFoxx: no
[01:26:00] fdsd: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 262144 Jan 11 15:47 ivtv-fw-dec.bin
[01:26:00] fdsd: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 262144 Jan 11 15:47 ivtv-fw-enc.bin
[01:26:00] fdsd: those guys
[01:26:00] GreyFoxx: The 150/500 use different firmware than the 250/350
[01:26:00] Juski: just one extra file to initialise the audio
[01:26:00] flux_: oh wow you guys are talking about just what i'm working on (hopefully)
[01:26:00] fdsd: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 155648 Jan 11 15:47 ivtv_init_mpeg.bin
[01:26:00] jonK: the "...-dec.bin" file is only needed for the 350
[01:26:00] jonK: i think
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[01:27:00] flux_: I tried to upgrade ivtv 0.4.0 to 0.4.1, the last two steps are: rmmod ivtv cs25840 tuner tveeprom msp3400 wm8775 tda9887 saa7115 saa7127
[01:27:00] flux_: and modprobe ivtv
[01:27:00] a1cypher: anyone here using a 150 with gentoo and have the IR blaster working?
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[01:28:00] render1: hi all, i'm having some troubles with choppy audio/video and prebuffering pauses on a hauppauge pvr350. anyone able to help me?
[01:28:00] flux_: when I do the rmmod I get: cs25840, msp3400,saa7127 does not exist in /proc/modules, tveeprom is in use by bttv. when I modprobe ivtv I get FATAL: Error inserting msp3400 (/lib/modules/2.6.13.2-chw-3/kernel/drivers/media/video/msp3400.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[01:28:00] flux_: any suggestions?
[01:29:00] jonK: did you "see dmesg" as suggested?
[01:29:00] a1cypher: render1: welcome to the club
[01:29:00] render1: heh thanks
[01:29:00] a1cypher: render1: do the pauses stop when you pause it for a few seconds?
[01:29:00] flux_: yeah it has a bunch of "invalid ioctl" for cx25840
[01:29:00] render1: nope
[01:30:00] a1cypher: ok, then we have slightly dif. problems
[01:30:00] render1: i am thinking it might be because audio is set to use OSS?
[01:30:00] render1: but i can't seem to get alsa support working
[01:30:00] render1: recompiling now
[01:30:00] flux_: and msp3400 has "unknown parameter 'simple'"
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[01:33:00] Juski: flux_: a tip about tveeprom – I'm running ivtv0.4.1 and I found you can use the V4L tveeprom – I needed to keep the original for my DVB-T tuner
[01:33:00] Juski: and .. there is an IRC channel for ivtv you know ;)
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[01:35:00] a1cypher: what exactly does ivtv do?
[01:35:00] a1cypher: its the driver for the hauppauge?
[01:35:00] Juski: yup
[01:35:00] Juski: PVR cards anyway
[01:35:00] flux_: let me find the channel... thanks Juski... I dunno if the V4L thing will help for me but i'll take a look at it
[01:35:00] a1cypher: #ivtv isn't it...
[01:36:00] Juski: might even be able to use the V4L version of msp3400 too – worth a go
[01:36:00] flux_: ivtv-dev is what it is, a1cypher
[01:36:00] Juski: worst that can happen is that your system will freeze
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[01:37:00] Juski: ahh.. flux_ what kernel are you running?
[01:37:00] flux_: 2.6.13.2
[01:37:00] flux_: -chw-3
[01:37:00] Juski: hm.. ok.. not likely to be that then
[01:38:00] flux_: I need to find where the v4l msp3400 and tveeprom
[01:38:00] Juski: part of the kernel modules
[01:38:00] Juski: drivers/v4l/media/video I think
[01:42:00] dagfinnr: anyone have any suggenstions why livetv hangs? its kindof weird, just get a noizy screen, and then it hangs, and returns back to myth menu after a minute ..
[01:43:00] Juski: dagfinnr: does your tuner work ok normally?
[01:43:00] Juski: I mean, outside of mythtv?
[01:43:00] dagfinnr: yeah, but when i try to get it on tv it makes hell with me
[01:44:00] dagfinnr: igot it working perfectly with your xorg.conf
[01:44:00] dagfinnr: and was gonna reboot for a last test, and then go to bed
[01:44:00] Juski: heh
[01:44:00] dagfinnr: and then it hangs AGAIN
[01:44:00] Juski: I know that feeling
[01:44:00] Juski: what tuner you using?
[01:44:00] dagfinnr: pvr150
[01:45:00] Juski: in mythtv-setup did you set the card as 'mpeg2 encoder card' ?
[01:45:00] dagfinnr: yes
[01:46:00] Juski: good – had a couple like that this week
[01:46:00] Juski: does it make recordings okay?
[01:46:00] dagfinnr: yep
[01:47:00] Juski: do the recordings play back ok?
[01:47:00] Kel-kippin: when you say it hangs.. do you mean your machine locks up completely?
[01:47:00] dagfinnr: well, i answered you on that earlier,,i dunno if i can record atm..i could try
[01:47:00] render1: i can't seem to get alsa support enabled in mythtv...only gives me OSS audio options (dsp, dsp1, etc...)...i'm using gentoo/portage and used oss and alsa USE flags...do i have to use -OSS?
[01:47:00] dagfinnr: Kel-kippin, yeah, it seems so
[01:47:00] render1: the sound works but its choppy
[01:48:00] dagfinnr: atleast myth
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[01:48:00] Kelerion: my machine is locking up currently after about 20 mins of playback
[01:48:00] Kelerion: but I know what it is.. a dodgy videocard
[01:48:00] dagfinnr: ah
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[01:49:00] Kelerion: I put another card in it.. and all it fine in the land of the cuckooos
[01:50:00] dagfinnr: strange, now it even wont work with the black and white settings
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[01:58:00] dougl: how can I set up loggin in a channel?
[01:59:00] red_fox: where can I get test-mpeg2?
[02:04:00] dagfinnr: is there any way i can check if the pvr150 card i healty?
[02:04:00] dagfinnr: is
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[02:06:00] Juski: dagfinnr: the cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg method is pretty good
[02:06:00] Kelerion: thats what I use when I'm testing
[02:07:00] dagfinnr: k
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[02:13:00] dagfinnr: Juski, well the cat from video0 shows a lot of noise/snow..how can i tell if thats the way it should be, or not?
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[02:14:00] Kelerion: is it set to the right input? "ivtvctl -pX"?
[02:15:00] dagfinnr: whats that?
[02:15:00] Kelerion: tells the card which input to use
[02:15:00] dagfinnr: well, ive done that in mythtvsetup?
[02:16:00] dagfinnr: do i have to do it in ivtvctl too?
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[02:16:00] Kelerion: and is the card type set right in the modules?
[02:16:00] cosmo_: why does mythfrontend like to change my desktop background in fluxbox?
[02:16:00] dagfinnr: well, i assume so, since it has been working on my monitor for the past two monts
[02:16:00] Kelerion: okies
[02:17:00] Kelerion: I came into this conversation late.. so don't know what you've tried
[02:18:00] dagfinnr: ok, its just so weird, everything worked, just a final reboot just to check if everything is working right for the last time, and now i dont even get it working only with my monitor
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[02:19:00] dagfinnr: i should have stuck with mce.. i would be a happy man now then, without any concernings .. :)
[02:19:00] Juski: blasphemer!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:19:00] dagfinnr: hehe
[02:19:00] Juski: just reboot it once a day and have no other concerns
[02:20:00] Juski: just worry about your internet connected system being rootes and have no other concerns ;)
[02:20:00] Juski: *rooted
[02:20:00] dagfinnr: well, better rebooting once a day, than have no working system at all
[02:20:00] dagfinnr: hehe, its behind a firewallo so .. :P
[02:21:00] dagfinnr: guess im just sick and tired of not getting things working
[02:21:00] Juski: you using knoppmyth?
[02:21:00] dagfinnr: fedora
[02:22:00] Juski: try a different distro
[02:22:00] BobJensen: dagfinnr: FWIW I have some oddities here also recently
[02:22:00] Juski: FC4 has issues at the moment, so people have been saying
[02:22:00] BobJensen: dagfinnr: three identical 150's in different machines, only one works as expected
[02:22:00] dagfinnr: in linux everyone have to invent the weels on their own, or, they get a "build a wheel"-kit, and have to do massive modifications to get it working, even if very many ppl needs the same wheel-type ;)
[02:23:00] dagfinnr: BobJensen, how does the other ones work?
[02:24:00] dagfinnr: so its Fedora whos making all go bad?
[02:25:00] Juski: dagfinnr: it's not worth giving up on
[02:25:00] Juski: and look at it this way.. if you haven't paid for MCE you're not missing anything
[02:25:00] dagfinnr:
[02:26:00] dagfinnr: (wait a sec, and go to the recordins and watch from there)
[02:26:00] BobJensen: dagfinnr: one will not start the card, one has no audio, I missed the audio driver
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[02:26:00] Juski: well – if you guys wanna jump ship, nobody's gonna talk you out of it
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[02:26:00] dagfinnr: BobJensen, oh..thats not a good thing :(
[02:27:00] BobJensen: I have had my master backend working for a while with out issues, added the two slaves and have nothign but trouble
[02:27:00] flux_: I upgraded the ivtv to version 0.4.1 and it "kinda" works. as soon as I go "watch tv", I get "prebuffering pause" followed by 4 "remote encoder not responding" (and some bad socket errors) and then a "Error was encountered while displaying video" on the frontend
[02:27:00] flux_: suggestions?
[02:27:00] dagfinnr: what the FUCK, now its suddenly working again
[02:27:00] dagfinnr: all i did was record two minutes, and then stop recording, and then watch live tv
[02:28:00] Juski: dagfinnr: probably an ivtv issue in that case
[02:28:00] Juski: which version are you using?
[02:28:00] dagfinnr: the newest one i think, installed from yum
[02:28:00] Juski: flux_: why upgrade if it was working?
[02:28:00] Kelerion: I would recommend making sure your input is being setup properly at boot
[02:28:00] BobJensen: 0.4.1–100
[02:29:00] Juski: dagfinnr: get 0.4.0 or 0.4.1 and make it yourself.. after uninstalling the previous version
[02:29:00] flux_: Juski: I had some sound issues and the forums on mysettopbox suggested to upgrade to 0.4.1
[02:29:00] dagfinnr: ivtv0 warning: Encoder Firmware can be buggy, use version 0x02040011 or 0x02050032.
[02:29:00] dagfinnr: i get this in the ivtv messages at boot
[02:29:00] Juski: flux_: discuss any ivtv issues with people on the ivtv forums
[02:29:00] dagfinnr: could that be a bug?
[02:29:00] Juski: dagfinnr: yup
[02:30:00] dagfinnr: do they mean the firmware on the pvr150, or how can u update it?
[02:30:00] flux_: Juski: how sure are you that it's an ivtv issue? I got the drivers loaded up properly
[02:30:00] Juski: they have different versions of firmware
[02:30:00] flux_: Juski: it shows about 2 seconds of video then the frontend dies
[02:31:00] Juski: flux_: it's unlikely to be mythtv's fault if it shows video at all
[02:31:00] dagfinnr: Juski, ah .. is it possible to upgrade it?
[02:31:00] Juski: look at the ivtv howto guide under firmware
[02:31:00] Juski: grab a copy from where they say to
[02:31:00] flux_: ok
[02:31:00] Juski: unpack it, rename as necessary and put it where it needs to be
[02:32:00] dagfinnr: Juski, what howdo are you refering to now?
[02:32:00] cosmo_: I managed to get twinview working on my nvidia based card, but now playback in frontend significantly stalls CPU, can anyone relate to this? Do nvidia cards disbale the hardware decoding feature when dual monitor support is used?
[02:33:00] dagfinnr: howto even,, im getting tired..hehe
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[02:37:00] Juski: the one over at ivtvdriver.org
[02:37:00] flux_: sorry, Juski, I'm just not convinced that this is a ivtv issue – cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg works fine... but... i'm asking them nonetheless
[02:38:00] ** BobJensen grabs yet another bookmark for his never ending collection **
[02:39:00] dagfinnr: hehe
[02:39:00] dagfinnr: i will try the ivtv howto tomorrow
[02:39:00] dagfinnr: its getting VERY late now
[02:40:00] BobJensen: dagfinnr: Good Luck
[02:44:00] dagfinnr: thanks bob
[02:44:00] dagfinnr: and juski, for trying to help – always.
[02:44:00] dagfinnr: bye
[02:44:00] dagfinnr: and good night
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[02:54:00] doc_: hello
[02:54:00] doc_: :)
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[03:01:00] xris: svn users should update mythweb... I finally fixed the bug to remove the LiveTV recordings from the "all" listings.
[03:03:00] doc_: uh... mmm... i'm a newbie with mythtv, so... is it possible to watch video/music from the backend in a frontend placed in other pc ?
[03:03:00] doc_: or it only works for watching tv/recorded video from tv ?
[03:03:00] xris: doc_: video/music are all handled via the frontend.. they don't touch the backend.
[03:04:00] xris: just nfs/smb mount your video and music shares on each frontend and install mythmusic and mythvideo
[03:04:00] doc_: xris: thanks :)
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[03:08:00] BobJensen: well I have two out of the three backends working now
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[03:11:00] Netslayer|laptop: just got mythweb svn installed and i get the error page, any ideas...
[03:11:00] Netslayer|laptop: The database environment variables are not correctly set in the
[03:11:00] Netslayer|laptop: included .htaccess file. Please read through the comments included
[03:11:00] Netslayer|laptop: in the file and set up the db_* environment variables correctly.
[03:11:00] Netslayer|laptop: Some possible solutions are to make sure that mod_env is enabled
[03:11:00] Netslayer|laptop: in httpd.conf, as well as having followed the instructions in the
[03:11:00] Netslayer|laptop: README about the AllowOverride settings.
[03:11:00] kormoc: the error page?
[03:11:00] kormoc: ...
[03:11:00] Netslayer|laptop: ug stupid newlines
[03:12:00] Netslayer|laptop: i've tried forums, the mythtv mailing list, and the .htaccess file any ideas?
[03:12:00] kormoc: Did you put the correct db settings in the .htaccess file?
[03:12:00] Netslayer|laptop: looks right to me
[03:12:00] kormoc: did you read the README section about the AllowOverride setting?
[03:13:00] BobJensen: exit
[03:13:00] BobJensen: oops
[03:13:00] Netslayer|laptop: where is the readme file, i couldn't find it
[03:14:00] Netslayer|laptop: it's not in my root dir of mythweb
[03:17:00] kormoc: if you did a svn checkout it should be
[03:17:00] kormoc: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . thweb/README
[03:17:00] kormoc: there it is in anycase
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[03:19:00] Chutt: xris, thanks
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[03:21:00] Netslayer: ugg my laptop died, anyone have ideas ^^
[03:21:00] BobJensen: PLug it in?
[03:22:00] Netslayer: kde doesn't give me enough flashy warnings
[03:22:00] stf29: need help for ir-blaster on a PVR-150 running under fc4
[03:22:00] Netslayer: auh i found the readme, going to run through that
[03:22:00] xris: Chutt: np... guess I don't watch enough livetv. heh
[03:23:00] Chutt: <shrug>, neither do i
[03:23:00] Chutt: was just one of my 'list of stuff to fix before 19'
[03:23:00] xris: this needed to be fixed, anyway...
[03:23:00] xris: the recgroup selector wasn't working properly (which I didn't know because I don't use recgroups, either)
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[03:26:00] BobJensen: when starting my slave backaend I get this " Channel(/dev/video0)::SetColourAttribute(): failed to set controls, error: No such device" google and the channel log provided no help, any ideas?
[03:27:00] stf29: need help to connecte a remote frontend to a backend
[03:27:00] BobJensen: that card is not available it is a PVR-150 on Fedora Core 4
[03:29:00] fdsd: it would be nice to be able to record tv shows in linux
[03:29:00] BobJensen: stf29: you need to allow remoote connections for mysql, have you dne this?
[03:29:00] xris: BobJensen: have you installed ivtv?
[03:29:00] xris: or did I misread your problem?
[03:29:00] BobJensen: xris: I have several times
[03:30:00] xvalentinex: can anyone reccomend a good remote for mythtv?
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[03:30:00] xvalentinex: ls
[03:30:00] xvalentinex: lol, sorry wrong window
[03:31:00] fdsd: rm -rf /
[03:31:00] BobJensen: xris: I might have found it, a line was missing from my modprobe.conf
[03:31:00] fdsd: oops wrong window
[03:31:00] xvalentinex: oh, your screwed
[03:31:00] fdsd: nope i forgot sudo!
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[03:33:00] xvalentinex: ahhh... you must use (K)ubuntu
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[03:33:00] BobJensen: xris: something had removed "alias char-major-81 videodev" from my modprobe.conf, I hate automated hardware discovery crap sometimes
[03:33:00] xris: ouch
[03:34:00] BobJensen: Been looking at this for two days now, beating my head against the wall
[03:34:00] xris: had something like that happen with mine the other day... accidentally booted into a new kernel after a blackout... took 3 days of 0-length recordings before I noticed my pvr-150 wasn't being recognized.
[03:35:00] BobJensen: I like the 150 cards they were cheap enough when I got them but some of this crap is just wierd
[03:35:00] kormoc: Bob-Laptop, this is why you should leave a working mythbox alone :P
[03:35:00] kormoc: erm, that was to BobJensen
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[03:35:00] BobJensen: kormoc: It's all the same
[03:36:00] xris: yeah. finicky driver sucks.
[03:36:00] BobJensen: kormoc: I thinkI am here 4 times
[03:38:00] xris: ok, enough coding for today.... later.
[03:38:00] ** kormoc waves **
[03:38:00] sw_bluntman: Guys, what is the mythfrontend supposed to do when you finish watching a recording (ie it plays to the end)? I thought I remembered it asking if you would like to keep or delete the recording.
[03:39:00] kormoc: that's a setting iirc
[03:39:00] sw_bluntman: k. Otherwise it just goes back to the listing?
[03:39:00] kormoc: yeah
[03:40:00] sw_bluntman: Cool. Let me see if you guys have seen this one. Most of the time mine goes back to the listing, which is fine, but about 1 out of every 4 times I get this error:
[03:40:00] sw_bluntman: *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid next size (normal): 0x0a56ba08 ***
[03:40:00] sw_bluntman: Aborted
[03:40:00] sw_bluntman: and am booted back out of the frontend.
[03:41:00] kormoc: what version of myth?
[03:41:00] sw_bluntman: 0.18
[03:41:00] kormoc: oddish.
[03:41:00] sw_bluntman: to be more specific, the rpms from: mythtv-0.18.1–114.rhfc3.at
[03:42:00] sw_bluntman: Yeah. Google shows lists where people have posted the problem, but no answers that I can see.
[03:43:00] sw_bluntman: Doesn't seem to be related to what recording I am playing or what theme I am using. Happens randomly
[03:44:00] ** kormoc shrugs **
[03:44:00] ** sw_bluntman nods **
[03:44:00] render1: is the hardware mpeg decoder on the pvr-350 only for using the tv-out? or should it do the mpeg decoding for playback on my computer as well?
[03:44:00] kormoc: not sure where to start, other then if you're willing to run though GDB and all that good stuff
[03:44:00] kormoc: render1, only tvout
[03:44:00] kyu_flux: anyone... I upgraded to ivtv 0.4.1 and noticed that when I start to play live tv, it says "prebuffering pause" and then stops after 2 seconds
[03:44:00] render1: bummer
[03:45:00] kyu_flux: I downgraded back to ivtv 0.4.0 and now it does the same thing .. does anyone have any suggestions?
[03:45:00] sw_bluntman: kormoc: would that require using something other than the RPM's?
[03:45:00] render1: seems that using libmpeg has helped my prebuffering pause/buffer underrun problem
[03:45:00] kyu_flux: I'm pretty sure that it's not an ivtv thing anymore...
[03:45:00] kormoc: sw_bluntman, for useful info, yes
[03:45:00] kyu_flux: I can cat /dev/video0 > tmp.mpg and it works great
[03:45:00] render1: seems like 70% cpu usage is high
[03:46:00] render1: i'm on an athlon64 3500 with a gig of ram
[03:46:00] kormoc: the videocard is the key for video decoding
[03:46:00] sw_bluntman: kormoc: Might just see if it goes away on 0.19 then, whenever that comes out
[03:46:00] render1: 5200fx
[03:46:00] kormoc: render1, what verion of the nvidia drivers?
[03:46:00] render1: the newest ones i believe
[03:46:00] kormoc: sw_bluntman, it's getting closer each day!
[03:46:00] render1: 8184 i think
[03:46:00] render1: lemme check
[03:46:00] kyu_flux: render1: it actually never plays beyond the 2 seconds – it says, "error was encountered while displaying video"
[03:47:00] kormoc: render1, might want to downgrade to 7676 and see if that helps
[03:47:00] render1: ok will give that a whirl
[03:47:00] sw_bluntman: easier question then (hopefully). When I am away, my frontend's screen goes blank. Remote doesn't wake it up, but keyboard does. SUggestions?
[03:47:00] kyu_flux: render1: additionally the error happens regardless if libmpeg is selected or not
[03:47:00] sw_bluntman: kormoc: I see the progress and am anxiously awaiting :)
[03:48:00] render1: i dunno kyu_flux...i'm having problems myself
[03:48:00] BobJensen: OK this keeps getting more wierd
[03:48:00] kyu_flux: ah, alright... thanks anyways...
[03:49:00] render1: you having the buffer problems as well?
[03:50:00] BobJensen: In my master log I have "Slave backend: slave2 no longer connected \n Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy" and on slave2 I have "Unknown encoder: 3" when I try to use the tuner
[03:50:00] Cardoe: kormoc: how's the ebuild working out for you?
[03:50:00] kormoc: quite well
[03:50:00] Cardoe: good
[03:51:00] kormoc: Cardoe, might want to throw in a warning about the nvidia driver > 8000 with opengl vsync?
[03:51:00] Cardoe: sure
[03:51:00] Cardoe: or better yet
[03:51:00] Cardoe: I can test versions and block the USE flag
[03:51:00] Chutt: limit it to just those two versions
[03:51:00] Cardoe: Chutt: hmm?
[03:51:00] Cardoe: which two versions?
[03:51:00] Chutt: it _should_ be fixed in the next release
[03:52:00] Chutt: the two existing 81.xx releases
[03:52:00] kormoc: ahh, coolness
[03:52:00] Cardoe: oh
[03:52:00] ** Cardoe doesn't have Nvidia hardware currently. **
[03:53:00] Cardoe: so I'm gonna go with Chutt's way
[03:53:00] kormoc: Cardoe, it's not the nvidia use flag I don't beleive, it's just that opengl vsync sucks, and they should disable opengl vsync in their frontend playback settings
[03:54:00] sw_bluntman: How stable would you guys say 0.19 CVS is these days?
[03:54:00] Chutt: that setting only exists in svn
[03:54:00] kormoc: Chutt, the ebuild he's doing is the .19_svn shapshots, so it should be good
[03:57:00] stf29: BobJensen: Sorry for the delay....
[03:58:00] stf29: BobJensen: Actualy i re-construct the mythtbackend to a fc4
[03:58:00] stf29: BobJensen: I already desabled the iptables
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[03:58:00] stf29: BobJensen: I already disable the SELinux (relabled to)
[03:59:00] stf29: BobJensen: I already give acces to the mysql datablse
[03:59:00] stf29: BobJensen: so i dont found the probleme
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[04:05:00] matgeek: Hi THere!
[04:06:00] matgeek: Installing mythtv on a Dual PIII 450MHz with Hauppauge 350.
[04:06:00] matgeek: Will this work OK? It did when playing back DVDs with no skipping using xine.
[04:07:00] matgeek: Dual CPU will avoid a lot of latency issues I believe
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[04:07:00] xris: matgeek: 350 is sometimes a pita to get going, but it should be fine
[04:09:00] matgeek: xris: what are the probs with Hauppauge 350 specifically please?
[04:09:00] xris: matgeek: only for output.. it ONLY decodes mpeg2... so you need some tweaking to get everything converted to mpeg2 before going to the card for display.
[04:10:00] xris: I think there are some new additions to xorg that make this easier.. someone here should know more about it...
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[04:13:00] \Grooby\: would a signal booster help my HD3K get a better lock on the signals?
[04:14:00] xris: \Grooby\: possibly
[04:14:00] \Grooby\: ok...i'll have to go get one
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[04:18:00] matgeek: xris: Have a Matrox G400 to display on. Won't use pvr-350 tvout as resolutiuon will not be as good.
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[04:25:00] kormoc: matgeek, as good? how good is your tv?
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[04:30:00] darkdrgn2k: Hi, i have a MYTHTV Backend slave that has a NFS mount to the SERVER
[04:30:00] darkdrgn2k: a recording was done on the SLAVE, into the NFS drive
[04:30:00] darkdrgn2k: it does not appear on the MASTER (file is missing) but it DOES appear on the Slave
[04:31:00] darkdrgn2k: when the path is unmounted the file disaperas
[04:31:00] darkdrgn2k: a DF produces 2 differnt results of the mounted drive in question
[04:31:00] darkdrgn2k: the MASTER has a list of 4 other recodings the SLAVE only has 1
[04:31:00] darkdrgn2k: any idea why?
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[04:59:00] Nothingman: Can't open file: 'mythlog.MYI'. (errno: 145)
[05:00:00] Nothingman: how do I fix that?
[05:00:00] Nothingman: it won't let me update the database
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[05:01:00] Nothingman: where is mythlog.MYI usually located?
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[05:03:00] OPP: yo
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[05:03:00] OPP: whats a good program for windows that is like mythtv but VERY ewasy to setup
[05:03:00] JoeyJoeJoJr: nothingman: use the command "find / | grep mythlog.MYI" to find where it is
[05:04:00] JoeyJoeJoJr: OPP: I think it's called media portal
[05:04:00] OPP: i tried that
[05:04:00] OPP: kinda hard to use
[05:04:00] JoeyJoeJoJr: that sucks.. the only other one I know of is windows mce itself
[05:05:00] OPP: o
[05:05:00] JoeyJoeJoJr: but thats not to say there is no other one
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[05:06:00] OPP: i dont get how to use tvguide
[05:06:00] OPP: like
[05:06:00] OPP: tvguide.xml
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[05:08:00] OPP: any suggestions?
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[05:10:00] Nothingman: OK, so I found it, but I still get that error with no real explanation as to *why* I can't open that file
[05:12:00] mankind_tweezer: I have a naive question: how well does MythTV work with digital cable setups? Right now I have a set-top box provided by the cable company — can MythTV replace that box?
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[05:13:00] Nothingman: has zap2it stopped catering to mythtv users?
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[05:16:00] Nothingman: makind_tweezer: myth can take the decoded signal from the box, but it is up to you to rig up a way (IR blasters, firewire connection, manual channel change) to change the channel
[05:17:00] mankind_tweezer: Nothingman: aha, i see
[05:17:00] mankind_tweezer: Nothingman: so the on-screen display from the box will be overlapping my signal?
[05:17:00] Nothingman: if I understand correctly, a firewire connection allows you to grab the recording and change channel
[05:17:00] Nothingman: possibly
[05:17:00] Nothingman: haven't tried it myself
[05:18:00] mankind_tweezer: Nothingman: makes sense — thanks!
[05:18:00] wswanson: argh.... I am so irritated with the SA3250HD.... it worked great for four hours... then stopped. I went to Cox and picked up a 2nd tuner and it never worked... something makes me think Cox made a change to my service so I can't stream from it... but I have to wait until Tuesday earliest to talk to their "special team" who understand the firewire stuff (as if they actually understand anything).... oh well for digital HD streams,
[05:18:00] wswanson: besides the OTAs
[05:18:00] Nothingman: no prob
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[05:20:00] render1: still here kormoc?
[05:20:00] kormoc: hihi
[05:20:00] render1: hey, i reverted to older nvidia drivers and rebooted and i must have not had something set right
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[05:21:00] kormoc: ooh?
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[05:21:00] render1: now all i'm getting is static/snow and no sound whatsoever
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[05:21:00] render1: i don't think it had to do with the nvidia drivers, but something is not set right with ivtv module
[05:21:00] kormoc: dmesg shows anything odd?
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[05:21:00] render1: tuner: radio freq (0.00) out of range (65–108)
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[05:21:00] kormoc: odd... Did you ever reboot before?
[05:22:00] render1: no
[05:22:00] render1: i think what happened was
[05:22:00] render1: well i dunno
[05:22:00] xris: matgeek: btw, from what I hear, the 350 has the best non-HD output of any other card.
[05:22:00] render1: cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg just gives me static as well
[05:22:00] kormoc: render1, would seem like ivtv didn't load the tuner correctly
[05:23:00] kormoc: render1, there should be a section in dmesg that shows ivtv init and what not
[05:25:00] render1: maybe this is it...
[05:27:00] render1: ivtv seems to load fine
[05:27:00] render1: only wierd thing i see is this
[05:27:00] render1: tuner: type already set to 2, ignoring request for 47
[05:27:00] render1: ivtv0: Initialized WinTV PVR 350, card #0
[05:27:00] render1: should it still be loading bttv?
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[05:34:00] kormoc: render1, no, it shouldn't
[05:34:00] render1: i think i must have compiled bttv modules from the kernel and now they are conflicting with ivtv
[05:34:00] render1: i removed what i could find...
[05:36:00] red_fox: I'm having trouble setting up firewire input... is there a way to cat it to a file for testing?
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[05:41:00] Led-Hed: I cant get the nVidia 8187 driver to do TV-Out. I can display X on my Monitor just fine.. It was working before the upgrade. Anyone know if they changed the TV-out options since 7667?
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[05:46:00] render1: if using ivtv am i safe to completely disable v4l in my kernel?
[05:46:00] kormoc: sadly, not
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[05:46:00] kormoc: you need to compile the bttv module, but just don't load it
[05:47:00] render1: hrmm
[05:47:00] render1: i wonder what is loading it
[05:47:00] kormoc: could try
[05:47:00] kormoc: rmmod bttv ivtv tuner
[05:47:00] kormoc: modprobe ivtv
[05:47:00] kormoc: and see if that works
[05:47:00] render1: tried
[05:47:00] render1: i removed everything as per the ivtv docs
[05:48:00] render1: rmmod ivtv cx25840 tuner tveeprom msp3400 wm8775 tda9887 saa7115 saa7127
[05:48:00] render1: and bttv
[05:48:00] render1: i have the cx88xx and cx8800 modules loading too
[05:48:00] render1: and i am not quite sure why
[05:49:00] kormoc: odd
[05:50:00] render1: lirc maybe?
[05:50:00] render1: lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, at major 61
[05:50:00] render1: bttv: driver version 0.9.16 loaded
[05:50:00] render1: bttv: using 8 buffers with 2080k (520 pages) each for capture
[05:50:00] render1: cx2388x v4l2 driver version 0.0.5 loaded
[05:50:00] render1: lirc_i2c: chip found @ 0x18 (Hauppauge IR)
[05:51:00] kormoc: lsmod
[05:51:00] kormoc: bttv should be used by something
[05:51:00] kormoc: which would tell you what's loading it
[05:52:00] render1: video_buf 19396 3 cx8800,cx88xx,bttv
[05:52:00] render1: firmware_class 8832 1 bttv
[05:52:00] render1: tveeprom 14892 2 cx88xx,bttv
[05:52:00] render1: i2c_algo_bit 8520 3 cx88xx,bttv,ivtv
[05:52:00] render1: and i2c_core
[05:53:00] kormoc: hrm. might wanna rmmod everything and modprobe lirc_dev and see if it loads bttcv
[05:53:00] xris: ok, back down to only 5 mythweb bugs.
[05:53:00] kormoc: yay!
[05:53:00] render1: even without bttv modules i still get static tho
[05:53:00] AlienBaby: render, what distro?
[05:54:00] render1: gentoo
[05:54:00] kormoc: render1, odd... wanna put the entire dmesg output to a pastebin?
[05:54:00] render1: sure, where should i send it?
[05:54:00] kormoc: use http://www.pastebin.ca
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[05:55:00] AlienBaby: render, you do a 'ivtvctl -a' what does input say.. mine is 4 for Tuner?
[05:56:00] AlienBaby: Video input = 4  ??
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[05:56:00] render1: yeah input : 4
[05:57:00] AlienBaby: render, and you deleted the duplicate modules the kernel build creates?
[05:57:00] render1: http://pastebin.ca/36840
[05:57:00] render1: yeah, i moved em to my /root dir
[05:57:00] render1: msp3400.ko tda9887.ko tuner.ko tveeprom.ko
[05:58:00] Chutt: xris, start on the regular myth bugs? =)
[05:59:00] kormoc: render1, in your /etc/modules.conf, is there a line akin to options tuner type=2?
[05:59:00] render1: yes indeed
[05:59:00] xris: Chutt: haha... you REALLY don't want me to do that.
[05:59:00] Chutt: there's only 99 of them
[05:59:00] Chutt: not counting your 5 m ythweb ones
[06:00:00] render1: should i change it to something else?
[06:00:00] AlienBaby: in my /etc/modules.d/ivtv.. all my options lines are commented out.. I found that they were bogus..
[06:01:00] kormoc: render1, that's your issue
[06:01:00] render1: i have a /etc/modules.d/ivtv file as well
[06:01:00] kormoc: render1, yeah, in that file there's the option tuner type= line as well, right?
[06:02:00] xvalentinex: hey guys real quick is the Hauppage WinTV-PVR-250 MCE compatible with mythtv?
[06:02:00] xris: ooh, food time. later.
[06:02:00] ** kormoc waves to xris **
[06:02:00] kormoc: xvalentinex, aye
[06:02:00] xvalentinex: thanks
[06:02:00] render1: yep, its set to 2 as well
[06:02:00] render1: but it worked before i rebooted...
[06:02:00] render1: shrug
[06:02:00] kormoc: render1, comment it out in that file
[06:03:00] kormoc: render1, then run modules_update and rmmod and modprobe ivtv and see if that fixes it
[06:03:00] AlienBaby: comment out thoughs options lines.. I found that the docs that recommended those line were for 2 or 3 revisions back..
[06:03:00] render1: should i comment out the line in modules.conf as well?
[06:03:00] kormoc: nah
[06:03:00] kormoc: the modules-update generates that file
[06:05:00] render1: still snow
[06:05:00] render1: tuner: tuner type not set
[06:05:00] render1: in dmesg
[06:06:00] kormoc: put the new dmesg section into a pastebin?
[06:06:00] kormoc: you see, when ivtv loads, it autodetects the tuner type and passes it to tuner.ko, so you shouldn't set that
[06:07:00] render1: http://pastebin.ca/36842
[06:07:00] render1: ivtv0: Error -19 reading Hauppauge eeprom.
[06:08:00] render1: i'll comment out all those other options
[06:08:00] kormoc: might want to just reboot as well
[06:08:00] kormoc: make sure the cards in a 'clean' state
[06:08:00] render1: should i keep the add below and above lines?
[06:08:00] render1: add below ivtv msp3400 saa7115 tuner
[06:08:00] render1: add above ivtv lirc_dev lirc_i2c
[06:09:00] kormoc: I don't use them myself, I doubt they are needed
[06:09:00] render1: nod
[06:09:00] render1: i pulled this from an example on ivtv support board somewhere
[06:09:00] render1: and i think that i was using the ivtv example off of gentoo wiki before that
[06:10:00] render1: this one just had a bunch of extra stuff, i think i changed it and then never module-updated
[06:10:00] render1: so it did not take effect till i rebooted...shrug
[06:10:00] render1: i dunno
[06:10:00] ** kormoc nods **
[06:10:00] kormoc: well, we'll get it working
[06:10:00] kormoc: just might take some work :)
[06:11:00] AlienBaby: I found that of the HOWTOs and wiki, the testing sections were the only useful bits..
[06:12:00] render1: hrmm still no luck, i'll try a cold reboot
[06:12:00] render1: brb
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[06:16:00] eric: works now
[06:16:00] eric: with the bttv modules loaded
[06:16:00] eric: wierd
[06:17:00] kormoc: eric == render1?
[06:17:00] eric: oops
[06:17:00] eric: yeah
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[06:17:00] render1: that must have been the problem, that nasty /etc/modules.d/ivtv
[06:18:00] render1: still wierd that bttv loads
[06:19:00] kormoc: yeah
[06:19:00] render1: http://pastebin.ca/36844
[06:20:00] kormoc: it's not in your /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 is it?
[06:20:00] render1: nope
[06:20:00] render1: just nvidia, ivtv and lirc-i2c
[06:20:00] kormoc: so odd
[06:20:00] render1: indeed
[06:21:00] Chutt: xris, know how threadsafe is mythweb + the php modules it uses are?
[06:21:00] AlienBaby: bttv loads for me too
[06:21:00] render1: ivtv must need the cx8800 drivers?
[06:22:00] Chutt: the cx88 is a separate module
[06:22:00] Chutt: nothing in ivtv should load bttv
[06:22:00] kormoc: render1, for myself, ivtv uses ivtv, tuner, saa7115, and tda9887
[06:22:00] render1: strange
[06:23:00] render1: ahhh audio playback fixed as well
[06:23:00] render1: grin
[06:23:00] render1: cpu usage down to 11.9
[06:23:00] render1: MUCH better
[06:23:00] AlienBaby: alias char-major-81 is in two different files in modules.d ivtv and aliases
[06:24:00] render1: too bad really, i was getting much better framerates on glxgears with those newer nvidia driver
[06:25:00] kormoc: render1, if you update to .19_pre8554, there is an option to disable opengl vsync timing which would allow you to use the new nvidia driver without the cpu hit
[06:26:00] render1: heh, i think i'll just stick with these old drivers
[06:26:00] render1: 6629 seem to be the most stable out there
[06:27:00] render1: i've had problems with different things anything later
[06:27:00] render1: thanks a ton for your help kormoc and alienbaby :-)
[06:27:00] AlienBaby: pre8554 has been working for me ok.. for about 12 hours..
[06:27:00] kormoc: no problems
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[06:29:00] AlienBaby: any idea what the mythflix plugin is?
[06:29:00] Chutt: netflix controller
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[06:34:00] cosmo_: Im working on a dual head machine here, and finding that whenever Ihave mythfrontend running on one monitor, my cpu becomes so taxed that launching an xterm can take 2 minutes. Anyone know if nvidia cards with multiple ports have their onboard decoders disabled in this mode?
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[06:35:00] cosmo_: wtf? ^
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[06:37:00] cosmo_: what on earth is going on in this channel?
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[06:38:00] kormoc: cosmo_, what version of the nvidia driver are you using?
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[06:39:00] kormoc: cosmo_, and it's not just this channel, one of freenode's servers are having issues, tis all
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[06:40:00] cosmo_: kormoc, equerys taking forever.....:(
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[06:41:00] kormoc: cosmo_, I'd venture to say you have a 8xxx nvidia driver
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[06:42:00] cosmo_: kormoc, perhaps, installed it through portage 2 weeks ago, had mad64 arch unmasked, so I think it grabbed the newest version at the time, do you use gentoo?
[06:42:00] kormoc: cosmo_, yes, I do
[06:42:00] cosmo_: nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178
[06:42:00] kormoc: cosmo_, and there's an issue with the 8xxx nvidia drivers and opengl vsync eating 100% cpu
[06:42:00] cosmo_: hmm, I guess I should go about remerging it then
[06:43:00] kormoc: cosmo_, the fix is to eather use svn mythtv and uncheck the use opengl vsync timing
[06:43:00] kormoc: cosmo_, or downgrade the nvidia driver to 7676
[06:43:00] cosmo_: I also noticed that its a bigger problem on the dvi port, have you heard anything of that vature?
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[06:43:00] kormoc: cosmo_, there's nothing about the dvi port having extra issues
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[06:43:00] cosmo_: kormoc, oh okay, so I shouldn't remerge nvidia?
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[06:43:00] kormoc: cosmo_, I run dual nvidia videocards outputting to 3 monitors, no issues
[06:44:00] kormoc: cosmo_, just mask the nvidia driver versions you don't want
[06:44:00] cosmo_: kormoc, well, I get the xterms launching with a delay only if I run frontend on the monitor attached to the dvi, I still get 100% cpu usage on the vga port, but I can launch things without delays
[06:44:00] cosmo_: kormoc, okay, so if I used a second card I wouldn't get any boost?
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[06:45:00] kormoc: cosmo_, you'd get a boost in opengl apps on the first card
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[06:45:00] kormoc: cosmo_, but not in just normal display of stuff
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[06:45:00] cosmo_: kormoc, maybe I should do that then, Ive got this extra pci lying around
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[06:45:00] kormoc: cosmo_, the only issue is if you flood the pci bus, everything goes to crap
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[06:46:00] cosmo_: kormoc, yeah, my second worry. So let me get this straight, its just that the dual head support on the nivida cant cope with opengl apps well?
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[06:46:00] cosmo_: kormoc, but if I turn off the other port It will cope?
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[06:47:00] kormoc: cosmo_, not really, it's more it's rendering two desktops, so it just slows down a bit
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[06:47:00] Chutt: hrmph, i thought i had more than 256 MB in this machine
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[06:47:00] kormoc: cosmo_, when running duel head on one card, doom 3's FPS is halfed or so in my experence
[06:48:00] cosmo_: kormoc, ever try doom 3 with 2 seperate cards?
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[06:48:00] cosmo_: kormoc, Im wondering if flooding the pci bus is less disasterous
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[06:48:00] kormoc: cosmo_, yup, it works well
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[06:48:00] cosmo_: kormoc, good news then, thanks for the advice
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[06:48:00] kormoc: cosmo_, of course, I was using the agp to play doom3 on
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[06:49:00] cosmo_: kormoc, oh, you werent playing it dual monitor with two cards?
[06:49:00] kormoc: cosmo_, ahh, no I wasn't
[06:49:00] cosmo_: kormoc, or you were, 1 agp, 1 pci?
[06:49:00] cosmo_: kormoc, ahh
[06:50:00] kormoc: cosmo_, I don't like splitting the screen up like that
[06:50:00] ** kormoc shrugs **
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[06:50:00] cosmo_: kormoc, yeah, I wouldn't for gaming
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[06:51:00] cosmo_: kormoc, but ive got this winbox for games, and I was wishing this other monitor could be used to hold extra linux apps, which makes me look to either going dual head and getting a vga switch, or hacking with cygwin some more
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[06:53:00] kormoc: cosmo_, I have it as, left screen (15" lcd) multimedia (mythtv, etc), center (19" lcd) games/normal stuff, right (15" lcd) chatting stuff (xchat, gaim,) as well as reference things
[06:53:00] kormoc: cosmo_, left and right are on the pci card, center on my agp
[06:53:00] cosmo_: kormoc, a nice setup indeed
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[06:56:00] banyan_: Hey, anyone have ideas about how I can unload and reload my ivtv modules short of rebooting?
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[06:57:00] banyan_: My ivtv_fb is in use, but by what I do not know. I can't, therefore, unload it, or ivtv. The reason I want to unload it is that, after pausing a recording for a fairly long time (say half an hour), the card or drivers or something appears to not be responding.
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[06:59:00] sheldon: Okay smart guys, I'm struggling with getting noises out of a pair of Hauppauge cards.
[07:00:00] kormoc: sheldon, what cards and what ivtv version?
[07:00:00] sheldon: Here's the rundown: Hauppauge WinTV-Go x 2, Ubuntu 5.10 (fresh install), bt87x audio on the cards
[07:01:00] kormoc: ahh
[07:01:00] kormoc: you sure they are supported by bt87x audio?
[07:02:00] sheldon: Yes, whether or not it's the chip is physically connect may be a different story.
[07:02:00] kormoc: that's what I mean
[07:02:00] sheldon: amixer -c 1 shows the card and it's set to capture.
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[07:02:00] sheldon: Both cards also show up in gnome-alsamixer.
[07:03:00] sheldon: But no noises. The sound output card is working fine.
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[07:03:00] sheldon: There are two possible drivers, bt87x (OSS) and snd-bt87x (ALSA). I've tried both.
[07:04:00] sheldon: /dev/dsp /dev/dsp1 and /dev/dsp2 all exist.
[07:04:00] sheldon: as does the devices in /dev/snd/pcmC*D* for ALSA.
[07:04:00] banyan_: Nobody's using my /dev/fb or /dev/fb0, yet my ivtv_fb module is un-unloadable because it is in use. Anyone have ideas what by?
[07:04:00] sheldon: Any thoughts?
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[07:15:00] render1: i don't suppose anyone has a ircrc for the remote that comes with the pvr 350?
[07:15:00] banyan_: The gray remote?
[07:16:00] render1: yeah, gray with black bottom
[07:16:00] banyan_: You could try mine.
[07:16:00] render1: i found one on google but it seems to have buttons mapped wrong
[07:16:00] render1: can you pastbin it?
[07:17:00] render1: lircrc even
[07:18:00] banyan_: http://pastebin.com/506431
[07:18:00] banyan_: you may dislike my setttings and ymmv.
[07:19:00] render1: ymmv?
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[07:19:00] sosumi: your millieage may varry
[07:20:00] render1: thanks banyan
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[07:31:00] banyan_: Anyone with expertise in unloading stuck ivtv modules?
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[07:36:00] Nothingman: hi, all
[07:37:00] Led-Hed: anyone wanna help me get my nVidia card to do TV-Out again?
[07:37:00] Nothingman: a Google search gives me little information on the differences between "protocol 15" and "protocol 18", but my Ubuntu myth server streams everything but the recordings list, recorded shows, and live tv fine through NFS to my KnoppMyth 5A22 TV frontend
[07:37:00] Led-Hed: I installed the nvidia driver 8178 and it doesnt do TV-Out anymore... Same xorg.conf...
[07:39:00] Nothingman: the *only* error I get revolves around that
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[07:39:00] xvalentinex: ATi TV Wonder or Hauppage WinTV?
[07:41:00] Nothingman: Led-Hed, what distro?
[07:42:00] Led-Hed: FC4
[07:42:00] Nothingman: under Ubuntu, I only had to apt-get remove and reinstall nvidia-glx
[07:42:00] Nothingman: should be somewhat similar for yum
[07:42:00] Led-Hed: I install from the nvidia installer...
[07:42:00] Nothingman: right, but it will overwrite those files
[07:43:00] Nothingman: you can sh NVIDIA-installer-1.0-8178-whatever.bin.sh.whatever -uninstall if you'd feel safer
[07:44:00] Nothingman: but you'll probably still have to install the stable NVIDIA package from yum after that
[07:44:00] Led-Hed: I've used the NVIDIA-Installer before without trouble..
[07:44:00] Nothingman: then sudo killall gdm (to be sure) and then sudo gdm
[07:44:00] Nothingman: so have I
[07:44:00] Nothingman: but something to do with having a newer GCC than is default for the distro packages screwed it up for me
[07:45:00] Nothingman: I'd bet dollars to donuts the same happened to you
[07:45:00] Nothingman: so I reverted
[07:45:00] Nothingman: I recommend the same
[07:45:00] Led-Hed: so, I should uninstall, then install the latest nvidia packages via yum...
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[07:46:00] Nothingman: that and maybe trying to run the installer once you know you have the previous GNU utils (say gcc-3.3)
[07:46:00] Led-Hed: I'll try the packages at ATRPMS first. see if they work..
[07:49:00] Led-Hed: Nothingman, when you had this problem were you able to run X on a vga monitor?
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[07:55:00] Nothingman: Led-Hed: this was on a machine with only the VGA attached
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[07:56:00] Nothingman: 7667 worked fine on it forever
[07:56:00] Nothingman: then I tried 8178 because of the composite support or something, I forget
[07:56:00] xpis: Would anyone have any idea why mythbackend would crash when trying to watch live tv after I attempted to change the "live tv" recording profile?
[07:56:00] xpis: There is no useful information in the log.
[07:56:00] Led-Hed: same here, 7667 worked fine. It works fine when connected to a VGA monitor.
[07:57:00] Nothingman: wasn't until today that I finally reverted totally
[07:57:00] Led-Hed: you went back to 7667?
[07:58:00] GreyFoxx: many have gone back to 7676
[07:59:00] Chutt: strange
[07:59:00] Chutt: i didn't get any database upgrade messages while it was upgrading
[08:00:00] Led-Hed: humm, I was hoping that the new drivers would help with the OSD B/W and screen tearing
[08:00:00] Chutt: i wonder if that patch i merged in recently broke that
[08:00:00] Chutt: wrt logging
[08:00:00] GreyFoxx: heh
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[08:01:00] GreyFoxx: Led-Hed: You using XvMC ?
[08:01:00] Led-Hed: ya
[08:01:00] GreyFoxx: Then changing driver versions wont affect the colours
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[08:01:00] Led-Hed: I'm not too concerned with the color. but the screen tearing when OSD is displayed is bad
[08:02:00] GreyFoxx: Don't have an answer for that. I don't use XvMC nor have I seen that
[08:02:00] GreyFoxx: I've seen a few people mention nit though
[08:02:00] GreyFoxx: but always when using xvmc
[08:03:00] Captain_Murdoch: Chutt, yep, looks like it. db upgrade uses VB_ALL and that mod checks for == so unless you do "-v all", you won't get VB_ALL messages.
[08:03:00] Led-Hed: I always had trouble with video until I enabled xvmc. but now the when the OSD is up the Video gets choppy and laggy. goes away as soon as the OSD is off. just sucks when you FF or REW.
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[08:07:00] banyan: Has anyone had issues related to a hauppauge PVR-350 using a framebuffer that conflicts with the console framebuffer, resulting in a kernel lockup / panic?
[08:09:00] banyan: What I'm having happen is that when I reboot, my computer just freezes right after the ivtv drivers load.
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[08:11:00] banyan: nobody's had this happen?
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[08:14:00] xpis: btw, here is the crash as it appears in my dmesg. Again, no information appears in the log file: mythbackend[3886]: segfault at 0000000000261c80 rip 0000000000261c80 rsp 00000000edf3d09c error 15
[08:15:00] Chutt: xpis, nobody can do a thing about a crash unless you get a backtrace.
[08:16:00] xpis: I was hoping this was a common occurance.. I'm currently running mythtv with a prebuild binary, so I really can't compile with debug enabled.
[08:16:00] dtm: xpis: did you google it?
[08:16:00] xpis: yes
[08:16:00] dtm: xpis: or any part of it
[08:16:00] dtm: narrow the search perhaps
[08:16:00] Chutt: doesn't matter
[08:16:00] Chutt: without a backtrace, nobody can do anything.
[08:17:00] dtm: xpis: or perhaps search bugzilla if they have one
[08:18:00] xpis: By the way, is there any (unreleased) mythtv code that compiles with gcc4?
[08:19:00] Chutt: uh, all of it?
[08:19:00] Chutt: both branches do.
[08:19:00] xpis: ok, good. The release wouldn't.
[08:19:00] Chutt: of course not
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[08:31:00] xpis: hm.. it seems to be crashing upon attempting to compress the video. I'm just going to compile the entire thing from cvs, as this atrpms distribution is just a mess.
[08:32:00] banyan: I had quite a problem getting booted, my computer would die as soon as ivtv loaded. I was thinking it was a framebuffer thing... so I added fbdev=/dev/fb0 to the kernel arguments, and whether it's coincidental or not, it ran this time.
[08:33:00] banyan: Opinions?
[08:34:00] |Slurpee|: uoooooo
[08:37:00] |Slurpee|: anyone good with knoppmyth?
[08:37:00] SteveDaniels: Just made a muppet of myself in mythtv – completely didin't realise i was in there instead of in here!
[08:37:00] |Slurpee|: i have some questions about getting my pvr-150 remote working and getting my porgram ilistsing to pop up
[08:39:00] SteveDaniels: Hi Guys, just need a quick reccomendation.
[08:40:00] SteveDaniels: I've got 3, 300gb disks going into my masterbackend
[08:40:00] SteveDaniels: I'm quite unlucky and have disks fail on my at the worst of times
[08:40:00] SteveDaniels: so i'm not sure I want to lvm them
[08:40:00] SteveDaniels: I was thinking, mounting one for the recordings directory
[08:40:00] SteveDaniels: and mounting my other two as /mnt/video/a-m /mnt/video/n-z
[08:40:00] SteveDaniels: Thoughts?
[08:42:00] sosumi: you look at using raid?
[08:42:00] SteveDaniels: Not really
[08:42:00] sosumi: know what it is?
[08:43:00] SteveDaniels: Now hardware raid any how.
[08:43:00] SteveDaniels: Yes I do
[08:43:00] SteveDaniels: Now = Not
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[08:44:00] sosumi: what goes in /mnt/video/a-m and n-z?
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[08:44:00] Led-Hed: I installed the nvidia 8178 dirvers with the nVidia installer. and couldnt get TV-Out to work. so I'm trying to revert to the 7676 drivers. but when X tries to load the "nvidia" module it complains that it cant find nvidia-1.0–8178 why is it still looking for the 8178 module?
[08:45:00] SteveDaniels: sosumi: about 400gb of seasons of tv, and films
[08:45:00] Led-Hed: I uninstalled the 8178 driver via NVIDIA-Installer --uninstall and rebooted
[08:46:00] sosumi: so why seperate them?
[08:46:00] SteveDaniels: sosumi: because the disk is only 300gb in size, i'm not sure whether to lvm them or not, i don't want a disk in an lvm volume going downa nd taking the other one with it :s
[08:47:00] Led-Hed: SteveDaniels, thats where RAID comes in
[08:47:00] sosumi: down side is you lose some disk space
[08:48:00] SteveDaniels: Led-Hed: I know about RAID. Can't go the hardware route. And I can';t afford to lose diskspace
[08:48:00] sosumi: total disk space
[08:48:00] Led-Hed: depends on the number of disks...
[08:48:00] SteveDaniels: So I'm starting to think I'll just LVM it, and back up to dvd.
[08:48:00] Led-Hed: well if you store all the data on 1 disk and it goes down you are gonna loose data also...
[08:49:00] Led-Hed: If you cant stand to loose the data then RAID is the only real solution. as DVD's dont really hold enough to do a real backup
[08:49:00] SteveDaniels: Led-Hed: that's where backups come in, who in the right mind hasn't got the OS of their server backed up?!
[08:50:00] Led-Hed: I dont backup the OS, the OS is on a single drive. But the Video and MySQL backups are on the RAID array
[08:51:00] Led-Hed: I can reinstall the OS. I cant re-record the video
[08:51:00] SteveDaniels: My "users" wouldn't be able to sit tight whilst I reinstall :-P a simple HD swap and I'm back up and running
[08:52:00] SteveDaniels: How much does a DVD hold again?
[08:52:00] Led-Hed: they'll be waiting a long time if the Video drive goes down...
[08:53:00] SteveDaniels: Led-Hed: only if they want to watch video..
[08:53:00] Led-Hed: single layer DVD's hold 4.8 GB
[08:53:00] Led-Hed: Dual Layer, hold approx 9gb
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[08:53:00] SteveDaniels: Cool, so I could back up individual seasons to DVD..
[08:54:00] Led-Hed: isnt that illegal?
[08:54:00] SteveDaniels: "Back up"
[08:54:00] SteveDaniels: And who said I am backing up seasons of copy righted material?
[08:54:00] Led-Hed: lol
[08:54:00] Led-Hed: what ever
[08:54:00] SteveDaniels: exactly
[08:54:00] Led-Hed: night
[08:55:00] sosumi: recording tv to dvd is illegal? where do you live?
[08:55:00] SteveDaniels: morning
[08:55:00] Led-Hed: night morning. either way I'm going to bed....
[08:55:00] SteveDaniels: lol seya
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[08:56:00] SteveDaniels: sosumi: how do you have your storage setup?
[08:59:00] sosumi: two drives in raid0, i dont care if it goes down
[09:00:00] sosumi: i care, but not enough
[09:02:00] |Slurpee|: someone help me with knoppmyth :(
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[09:27:00] sjaakz0r: is is it normal that when mytthtv is between the telvision that the vision is worse then when the tv is direct on the cable?
[09:28:00] dasOp: how much worse?
[09:28:00] dasOp: are you using a regular splitter?
[09:29:00] sjaakz0r: what do you mean with splitter?
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[09:37:00] sjaakz0r: how can I tune the audio volume up?
[09:37:00] sjaakz0r: it's kind of soft
[09:39:00] sosumi: f11
[09:41:00] sjaakz0r: ok but I mean when it starts-up
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[09:44:00] sjaakz0r: never mind
[09:44:00] sjaakz0r: allready found it
[09:46:00] eiggirC: there's a "default volume" setting somewhere
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[10:11:00] Wibble-: hi – I'm have lots of trouble getting myth-backend to run. It fails telling me "config file /home/mythtv/.mythtv/Antenna.xmltv does not exist and that I should run "me" with --configure. I've run everything I can think of with configure to no avail!
[10:14:00] sjaakz0r: is it possible to let mythTV autotune ?
[10:17:00] Wibble-: you can download some channel data – but I don't think thats the same as auto tune... I dunno if you can do an auto-tune.
[10:21:00] sjaakz0r: ok..where can I find the XMLTV id's as stored in the database?
[10:28:00] Wibble-: I have no idea on that one – I'm new to myth myself :P
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[10:38:00] sjaakz0r: anyone here>
[10:38:00] fatmatt: sjaakz0r: umm the chanel table maybe
[10:38:00] sjaakz0r: I use the holland grabber...but it doesn't auto fill my channels?
[10:39:00] fatmatt: have you run mythfilldatabase and mythtvsetup?
[10:41:00] sjaakz0r: yeah
[10:42:00] sjaakz0r: but it complaints at mythfilldatabase that it can't find tv_grab_nl.conf
[10:42:00] sjaakz0r: where does the program store the conf file?
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[10:46:00] dasOp: conf 'file' is in the database
[10:46:00] dasOp: the only thing actually in files is how to log on to the db
[10:47:00] fatmatt: my tvgrap config is in /home/mythtv/.xmltv
[10:48:00] dasOp: oh, xmltv conf
[10:49:00] fatmatt: try running the tv_grab_nl prog and checking it completes correctly, first time run it should make .xmltv/tv_grab_nl.conf
[10:50:00] sjaakz0r: nlwcomg
[10:50:00] sjaakz0r: how the fuck does this work :(
[10:50:00] sjaakz0r: ok wait
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[10:53:00] sjaakz0r: is there another grabber for holland?
[10:53:00] fatmatt: sjaakz0r: try google
[10:53:00] fatmatt: there are a few for Australia
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[11:12:00] sjaakz0r: is it normal that grabbing takes a long time?
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[11:17:00] Wibble-: yes sjaakz0r
[11:18:00] Wibble-: for me, it had to download 40mb (on a dialup!)
[11:18:00] sjaakz0r: hmm
[11:18:00] sjaakz0r: but I have a 700 kb/s connection
[11:18:00] sjaakz0r: and it still takes like 5 mins for 1 channel
[11:18:00] Wibble-: dunno – but the install guide says it may take a long time
[11:21:00] sona: yeah it takes along time
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[12:31:00] kami22: hi i am trying to compile xmltv on my Slug but i am always getting this error : Warning: the following files are missing in your kit:
[12:31:00] kami22: META.yml
[12:31:00] kami22: Please inform the author.
[12:31:00] kami22: bad makefile line: ' $(NOECHO) $(NOOP)' at Makefile.PL line 1031.
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[12:31:00] kami22: can anyone tell me how the META.yml file is created or which tools i need?
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[12:36:00] [Elvis]: hello, can anyone tell me what the grabbers do with the information they download...in which table they store it.....and do the channels become automatically created in mythtv?
[12:37:00] Kelerion: Elvis – it downloads them to an xml file – the inserts them into the "channels" and "programs" tables in the db
[12:37:00] [Elvis]: so the channels you download are automatically inserted without the frequency in the channel setup in mythtv?
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[12:38:00] [Elvis]: so you don't have to set them up yourself except for the frequency?
[12:38:00] Kelerion: depends on the grabber
[12:38:00] Kelerion: yes
[12:38:00] [Elvis]: hmm I have tv_grab_nl
[12:38:00] Kelerion: don't know about .nl.. but probably
[12:40:00] Kelerion: in the uk.. when I've set up a myth for the first time.. I run the grabber.. then update all the freqid's in the channels table manually
[12:41:00] Kelerion: but my freqid's are really external channel numbers my ir blaster sends to my cable box
[12:41:00] dasOp: same here in .se, except that mythfilldatabase screws up and sets channum and freqid the same
[12:41:00] Kelerion: a lot of the american's don't need to do that if they are using an internal tuner
[12:41:00] dasOp: so I had to manually set the freqid's
[12:41:00] dasOp: sure helped to be proficient with mysql there or I'd never have gotten it running
[12:42:00] Kelerion: it's a lot easier to to it in mythwebm dasOp
[12:42:00] Kelerion: to do it..even
[12:42:00] dasOp: oh
[12:42:00] dasOp: heh
[12:43:00] dasOp: yeah, for sure. learn something new every day :)
[12:43:00] Kelerion: can do loads at a time and *then* hit save
[12:43:00] dasOp: instead of 12 'update channel set ...' like I did :P
[12:44:00] Kelerion: I have 200 channels.. so yeah.. lol
[12:45:00] dasOp: I didnt get a dvb card yet, just testing out mythtv on my regular cable
[12:45:00] Kelerion: thats why my Satellite provider
[12:45:00] Kelerion: I don't use dvb either.. but thats about 30 or so channels in the UK
[12:46:00] dasOp: so far, I like the concept alot but not really the looks. smart thing, that theming support, shuts up alot of us whiners :)
[12:46:00] Kelerion: yup
[12:46:00] dasOp: dvb-t is around 30 chans so far, I'm planning on getting dvb-c tho
[12:46:00] [Elvis]: dvb = ?
[12:47:00] Kelerion: dvb = free to air
[12:47:00] dasOp: no, its a digital video broadcasting standard
[12:47:00] dasOp: where the -t is the free to air version
[12:48:00] dasOp: mainly used in europe
[12:48:00] dasOp: from what I know (which may not be alot) atsc is the equivelant standard used in the us
[12:48:00] dasOp: although I think dvb-s (satelite) is used some in the us as well
[12:49:00] dasOp: so far, there are three dvb standards in use, dvb-c (cable) being the one I didnt mention so far
[12:49:00] dasOp: uh, weird sentence there
[12:49:00] [Elvis]: I got cable?
[12:49:00] [Elvis]: and live in europe?
[12:49:00] [Elvis]: :p
[12:50:00] [Elvis]: so I should use dvb-c ?
[12:50:00] dasOp: well, that depends
[12:50:00] dasOp: does your cable supply digital tv?
[12:50:00] dasOp: do you even care about it?
[12:50:00] [Elvis]: no
[12:50:00] [Elvis]: analog
[12:50:00] dasOp: then you'll just want a regular analog card
[12:51:00] [Elvis]: but what is the main difference between analog and digital?
[12:51:00] dasOp: like the hauppage pvr
[12:51:00] [Elvis]: i have a pvr 500 now
[12:51:00] dasOp: well, the main advantage is that digital video is an mpeg2 stream (usually)
[12:51:00] dasOp: which means you can fit alot more channels in the available spectrum
[12:52:00] dasOp: also, picture quality, ac3 sound (potentially)
[12:53:00] dasOp: to sum it up, more content, better quality
[12:53:00] dasOp: is more content a good thing? each to his own :)
[12:54:00] Kelerion: I have 200 channels and I watch a total of about 5
[12:56:00] dasOp: only reason I have digital tv is so I could get all 5 discovery chans and natgeo :P
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[13:12:00] Kelerion: afternoon Juski :) quiet here
[13:13:00] Juski: afternoon.. quiet? that'll make a change ;)
[13:13:00] Juski: just videoing my mythtv box
[13:13:00] immolo: Does anyone know if a svn frontend would be compatble with a stable backend?
[13:13:00] Juski: got my TV out going into a capture card so I can make a video :)
[13:13:00] Juski: immolo: NO
[13:14:00] Kelerion: immolo: no
[13:14:00] Juski: different protocol versions, and probably database differences
[13:14:00] Kelerion: am upgrading my svn version.. it's a couple of weeks old now
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[13:14:00] immolo: is there any benfits from going svn backend and frontend?
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[13:15:00] Kelerion: immolo: there's always benefits.. newer features being the biggest benefit.. but also downsides.. less tested code for example.. but my svn seems to be running pretty solidly
[13:16:00] [Elvis]: lol, my grabber is allready busy for 2 hours
[13:16:00] [Elvis]: to fetch 24 channels
[13:16:00] [Elvis]: :P
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[13:16:00] immolo: Kelerion, hmm just want to make sure before putting unstable code on my server
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[13:17:00] dasOp: whats in a word?
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[13:17:00] Juski: come ON commflag.. hurry up.. need to record mythtv skipping commercials...
[13:18:00] Kelerion: the backend (I find) is pretty much always rock solid.. if I have any problems at all it's usually in the frontend
[13:18:00] Kelerion: Juski: is your commflagging actually reliable? I never found it to work properly in the UK
[13:19:00] Juski: not sure.. only ever tried it twice
[13:20:00] Juski: I'm gonna 'fix' it for this video I'm doing
[13:20:00] Kelerion: thats cheating! :P
[13:20:00] [Elvis]: when does the grabber auto-update?
[13:20:00] Juski: it's for a promo video ;)
[13:20:00] Kelerion: justifiable cheating.. is still cheating.. :P
[13:20:00] Kelerion: brb... need more coffee
[13:21:00] [Elvis]: does the grabber auto-update or how does it work?
[13:21:00] immolo: Kelerion, does directfb work again with svn myth?
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[13:21:00] Juski: [Elvis]: you're supposed to run it as a cron – scheduled to run on a regular basis
[13:22:00] [Elvis]: so mythtvbackend doesn't auto-run it?
[13:22:00] Juski: it _can_ auto run it
[13:22:00] [Elvis]: but?
[13:22:00] Juski: if you don't set it to, it won't
[13:22:00] [Elvis]: ;P
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[13:23:00] Xenna2: 22 4 * * * sleep $(expr $RANDOM \% 7200) && mythfilldatabase > /var/log/mythtv/mythfilldatabase.log 2>&1
[13:24:00] Xenna2: or something like it, crontab -e
[13:24:00] Kelerion: immolo: dunno.. never used it
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[13:26:00] Kelerion: looks like there's been a lot of updates in the last couple of weeks.. lots of new code to compile/re-compile
[13:28:00] Juski: hahahaha.. every fade to black in '24' has been flagged as commercials..
[13:28:00] Juski: but the ads don't have fades to black either side of the break.. fscking $ky bastards
[13:28:00] ** Kelerion chuckles **
[13:29:00] Juski: 'Sky' bumper after a show segment just CUTS to the ads
[13:29:00] Juski: fuckers
[13:29:00] Kelerion: I watched the very first series of 24.. but then didn't bother with any more.. wouldn't have a clue with it now.. but I remember they used a lot of fade to blacks in it
[13:32:00] Kelerion: ahh.. there's a new dependency for svn
[13:32:00] Kelerion: libttf2
[13:32:00] Juski: looks like I'll just have to stick with my 60 second skip keys
[13:33:00] Kelerion: nope.. thats not the dependency
[13:34:00] [Elvis]: Kelerion how long does your grabber take to update?
[13:35:00] Kelerion: last one took 7 minutes
[13:35:00] Juski: [Elvis]: if you want faster grabber updates, just move to a different country ;)
[13:35:00] [Elvis]: damn
[13:35:00] [Elvis]: well
[13:35:00] [Elvis]: I'm busy for 2 hours now
[13:35:00] [Elvis]: that aint really normal I guess
[13:35:00] [Elvis]: :
[13:35:00] [Elvis]: 8)
[13:35:00] Kelerion: but the UK one gets a nice xml file from a listings provider.. rather then screenscraping
[13:35:00] [Elvis]: I might move to the UK
[13:36:00] [Elvis]: depends if I can start at BA
[13:36:00] Kelerion: Elvis.. it is normal if you have a lot of channels is the grabber is screen scraping some site
[13:36:00] [Elvis]: yeah it's screen scraping 24 chans
[13:37:00] dasOp: swedb updates are almost instant
[13:38:00] Juski: even so, page scraping shouldn't take _that_ long
[13:39:00] [Elvis]: where can I see xmlid?
[13:39:00] Kelerion: it used to with RT until they started providing the xml files
[13:40:00] ** Kelerion remembers the old says of tv_grab_uk_rt and shudders **
[13:40:00] Kelerion: days
[13:40:00] Kelerion: I'd leave the first grab going all night
[13:40:00] [Elvis]: lol
[13:40:00] [Elvis]: I have tv_grab_+nl
[13:40:00] [Elvis]: :P
[13:41:00] [Elvis]: OMG
[13:41:00] [Elvis]: I don't see anything on lisitngs
[13:41:00] [Elvis]: what should I do?
[13:41:00] [Elvis]: I did mythfilldatabase
[13:41:00] [Elvis]: should I add a xmlid? and where can I find it?
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[13:43:00] [Elvis]: can anyone help me out here?
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[13:45:00] Kelerion: Elvis – are the entries in the database?
[13:46:00] Kelerion: look in the "program" table of mysql
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[13:47:00] [Elvis]: erm
[13:47:00] [Elvis]: program = empty?
[13:47:00] [Elvis]: wtf?
[13:47:00] Kelerion: plus. .when I was trying to find out how the grabbers worked.. I only specified 1 or 2 tv channels.. it didn't take as long to figure out what I was doing wrong then.. and then when I had those channels working I went with a full line-up
[13:48:00] [Elvis]: that's what I was planning now Kelerion
[13:48:00] [Elvis]: any idea why it stays empty?
[13:48:00] Kelerion: have you checked the log file?
[13:48:00] [Elvis]: where does it make a log file?
[13:49:00] [Elvis]: damn
[13:49:00] [Elvis]: it looks like it works now
[13:49:00] Kelerion: depends on your system.. mines in /var/log/mythtv/
[13:51:00] [Elvis]: how do I delete channels in mythtv-setup ?
[13:51:00] engie: Hi. I've just set up a backend which is showing the current program (and pausing etc) brilliantly accross the network. Unfortunatly, if one frontend is already connected I can't connect a second one. I get "MythTV is already using all available inputs for recording. If you want to watch an in-progress recording, select one from the playback menu" even though the other player is just playing live-tv. The other player is a windows playe
[13:52:00] [Elvis]: anyone know how I can delete channels?
[13:52:00] Kelerion: engie... two frontends can't access live-TV at the same time as far as I remember
[13:52:00] dasOp: they cant
[13:53:00] dasOp: dunno if there's a reason or its just not implemented
[13:53:00] Kelerion: Elvis – it's in the channel editor
[13:53:00] [Elvis]: I don't see a delete button in channel editor?
[13:53:00] [Elvis]: kelerion?
[13:54:00] Kelerion: elvis – go to a channel and press the "m" key
[13:54:00] Kelerion: in the channel editor
[13:54:00] Kelerion: dasOp: don't think it's been implemented – yet
[13:54:00] Kelerion: should be easier to implement now though with the new ringbuffer code I would imagine
[13:55:00] dasOp: engie: if you press 'r' in one frontend, that starts a recording and the second frontend can go watch that recording
[13:55:00] dasOp: thats the only way to do it right now
[13:55:00] Kelerion: but that will only last as long as the current tv show
[13:56:00] Kelerion: but yeah.. it's the only way to do it now
[13:57:00] ** Kelerion tries something **
[13:58:00] Kelerion: ahh..cool.. you can do it
[13:58:00] Kelerion: put the first frontend on live tv
[13:58:00] Kelerion: go to the second and go to watch recordings.. set filter to live tv and you can watch it from there
[13:58:00] engie: Kelerion: Will have a go
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[13:59:00] Kelerion: but.. you'll only be able to change channels from the first frontend
[14:00:00] Kelerion: engie.. and this presumes your running svn
[14:00:00] Kelerion: it won't work in 18.1
[14:01:00] engie: Kelerion: Just tried that with 18.1 and it worked pretty well
[14:01:00] engie: Although the winmyth frontend struggled heavily
[14:01:00] Kelerion: it did? cool
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[14:03:00] Kelerion: dasOp: thats neat huh? I hadn't thought of that use for the new livetv code
[14:03:00] dasOp: very neat
[14:03:00] dasOp: I cant get winmyth livetv to work
[14:03:00] dasOp: I just use dsmyth with mythweb on win
[14:03:00] Juski: dasOp: that's not winmyth
[14:03:00] Juski: dsmyth != winmyth
[14:03:00] Kelerion: I haven't tried winmyth for *ages* – I just couldn't get it to work right
[14:04:00] Juski: another reason why windows sucks arse... it won't work with mythtv :-D
[14:04:00] dasOp: Juski: I know, winmyth just uses dsmyth to process the stream
[14:04:00] Kelerion: lol
[14:04:00] Juski: well, for one thing, .nuv files from PVR cards aren't Nuppelvideo format
[14:05:00] Juski: so that'll be throwing it off the scent for a start
[14:06:00] engie: It hit 100% CPU with the scalling (although using dsmyth with media player worked fine)
[14:07:00] Juski: all you need to do to write an app for windows that acts as a frontend is:
[14:07:00] Juski: 1. learn to speak the mythtv protocol
[14:07:00] Juski: 2. access the database
[14:07:00] dasOp: regular media player doesnt allow me to mess with the aspect ratio
[14:08:00] Juski: das0p: use VLC
[14:10:00] dasOp: I use zoom player
[14:10:00] dasOp: works just fine
[14:10:00] dasOp: does vlc have builtin dsmyth capabilities?
[14:11:00] dasOp: I find that dsmyth takes its time to get started on playback
[14:12:00] dasOp: too bad winmyth just dies, only way to change channel
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[14:13:00] dasOp: and its fullscreen isnt much to write home about
[14:14:00] Kelerion: oh – we had a protocol number change.. we're now on 23
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[14:15:00] Juski: ffs.. too bad winmyth was so badly written I suppose aswell
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[14:21:00] nasa: Hi, I have been looking at all the places noted (maybe I was stupid and missed it), but for some reason ivtv see's my pvr-500 card and initialized the first part fine — but says the second part is uknown and defaults to a pvr-250 (should be pvr-150)
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[14:26:00] [Elvis]: weeeeeeee
[14:26:00] [Elvis]: listings work...omnly problem now is that all the frequency's are so fucked up
[14:26:00] [Elvis]: and there's no easy way to find them out
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[14:27:00] Kelerion: Elvis – you using an internal tuner?
[14:28:00] [Elvis]: I use pvr500
[14:29:00] [Elvis]: if that's what you mean
[14:30:00] nasa: Elvis: did you have any issues with the pvr-500 detection? (ie: it shows as 2 pvr-150s)
[14:30:00] [Elvis]: hmm
[14:30:00] poser: if I reencode video with ffmpeg, can I then use dvdauthor to make a vob?
[14:30:00] [Elvis]: no it shows as 500
[14:30:00] [Elvis]: 1000
[14:30:00] [Elvis]: 1000
[14:30:00] [Elvis]: lool
[14:30:00] [Elvis]: ..2 x 500 irc makes it 1000
[14:30:00] [Elvis]: quite annoying
[14:30:00] [Elvis]: :P
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[14:33:00] [Elvis]: nasa you having issiues?
[14:35:00] [Elvis]: so Kelerion you don't know any way to find out frequency's automatic?
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[14:35:00] nasa: I looks like it's not detecing right
[14:36:00] Kelerion: I use an external tuner (satellite box) – so never looked into it
[14:36:00] nasa: it (the logs) look fine for the first part, but when it gets to ivtv1: it says it's an unknown card and defaults to the 250
[14:38:00] [Elvis]: hmm weird nasa
[14:38:00] nasa: I only have the one pvr-500 installed.
[14:38:00] [Elvis]: which setup guide did you use?
[14:38:00] nasa: The one off of mythtv.org
[14:39:00] nasa: I am using the 0.4.1 drivers (ivtv)
[14:39:00] [Elvis]: I use them too
[14:39:00] [Elvis]: hmm
[14:39:00] [Elvis]: so what steps did you take
[14:39:00] [Elvis]: walk me through what you di
[14:39:00] [Elvis]: did
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[14:42:00] nasa: after installing a base mandriva 2006 system; I downloaded the drivers, compiled them, then followed the steps here http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Howto to install them
[14:42:00] xpis: hm.. is there any support for vorbis/theora support in the works or in planning?
[14:43:00] [Elvis]: hmm
[14:43:00] [Elvis]: I use debian
[14:43:00] [Elvis]: how do I unzip a .tar.tar file?
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[14:44:00] Kelerion: Juski: how's the EIT stuff work in dvb? does myth constantly extract it from the stream? or is it still on a schedule?
[14:44:00] nasa: tar xvf <file.tar.tar>
[14:45:00] nasa: no 'z' needed since it's not gzipped
[14:45:00] Juski: Kelerion: it grabs it all the time... pauses occasionally but in SVN I found it to be very resource hungry
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[14:45:00] [Elvis]: erm
[14:45:00] [Elvis]: nasa that gives me errors
[14:45:00] Kelerion: so if a program is running a couple of minutes over schedule.. myth can compensate for it?
[14:45:00] [Elvis]: saying it doesn't look like a tar archive?
[14:46:00] Kelerion: Elvis: try "tar -xvzf file.tar.tar"
[14:46:00] nasa: try downloading/getting it again (looks like a bad archive)
[14:46:00] Kelerion: it might be names incorrectly
[14:46:00] [Elvis]: yeah
[14:46:00] [Elvis]: they are
[14:47:00] [Elvis]: it should be tar.bz2 on the site
[14:47:00] [Elvis]: not tar.tar
[14:47:00] Kelerion: tar -xvjf file.tar
[14:47:00] Kelerion: in that case
[14:48:00] [Elvis]: yeah I got them extracted
[14:49:00] Kelerion: there we go.. all svn'd up :)
[14:49:00] [Elvis]: any here installed the mythplugins?
[14:49:00] [Elvis]: they give me errors
[14:50:00] Kelerion: am running the plugins here
[14:50:00] [Elvis]: the manual says do qmake mythplugins.pro
[14:50:00] [Elvis]: but they say I have to run configure first
[14:50:00] [Elvis]: so that's what I did
[14:50:00] [Elvis]: but then
[14:50:00] [Elvis]: when I do make
[14:50:00] [Elvis]: I get all kind of errors
[14:54:00] [Elvis]: any clues?
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[14:59:00] Pitchin_uk: can someone spare me 5 minutes to help me run through the mythtv setup?
[15:00:00] Kelerion: Pitchin: whats your setup?
[15:01:00] Pitchin_uk: im on suse 10.0 with a nova-t pci card with uk freeview. anything else ??
[15:01:00] Kelerion: thats enough – I'm in the uk too but I don't use dvb
[15:01:00] Pitchin_uk: i only have one myth box
[15:01:00] [Elvis]: damn can't get the plugins installed...can someone help me with this?
[15:01:00] Kelerion: so I don't know anything about the setup for dvb
[15:02:00] Pitchin_uk: ok
[15:02:00] Kelerion: Elvis: your not giving enough information "it won't compile" doesn't let us help you!
[15:03:00] Pitchin_uk: i have played around with the card in kaffeine so i know the card works and can pick up all th channels
[15:03:00] Kelerion: what problems are you having Pitchin?
[15:03:00] Pitchin_uk: where do i start once i run the setup
[15:03:00] [Elvis]: ok when I type make...it gives me like 10000 errors
[15:03:00] [Elvis]: :P
[15:03:00] Kelerion: Elvis: copy and paste them to a pastebin
[15:03:00] [Elvis]: will do now
[15:04:00] [Elvis]: how can I put all the output in a file
[15:04:00] [Elvis]: because > won't put the errors to file
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[15:05:00] Kelerion: Elvis: just copy and paste them from the console
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[15:05:00] [Elvis]: kinda hard cuz I irc on laptop
[15:06:00] Kelerion: Elvis: without seeing a log.. I can't help – sorry.
[15:06:00] [Elvis]: I know
[15:06:00] Pitchin_uk: what card type do i need to select for the nova-t
[15:07:00] Kelerion: DVB DTV I would presume
[15:08:00] Pitchin_uk: ok cool it has it
[15:09:00] Kelerion: brb.. need more coffee
[15:10:00] [Elvis]: Kelerion got it... http://home.planet.nl/~verberk/error.txt
[15:10:00] [Elvis]: :p
[15:11:00] Pitchin_uk: on the input connection what do i need as the starting channel
[15:11:00] [Elvis]: it's not like 1 error :P
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[15:11:00] darkdrgn2k: Hi, i have a bit of trouble
[15:11:00] SteveDaniels: Right, back up to the patch panel in the loft..
[15:12:00] darkdrgn2k: I have a NFS map to /home/mythtv on a SLAVE BACKEND. in that directory there is a store path
[15:12:00] darkdrgn2k: somethign was recorded on the SLAVE, and appears in that folder, but on the master it does not. The master however has a list of OTHER stored files that do no exist on the slave
[15:12:00] darkdrgn2k: if the NFS is unmounted.. the directories disapear
[15:12:00] SteveDaniels: pitchin, set anything you want as the start channel, your favorite channel, or just channel 1
[15:12:00] darkdrgn2k: any one know whay?
[15:12:00] Pitchin_uk: ok cheers
[15:13:00] darkdrgn2k: Aslo on the slave the DF shows the nfs path at 74% and the server shows at 54%
[15:14:00] darkdrgn2k: nm found it
[15:15:00] nasa: how do you use a "real" ip address on a box who's ip address is done via dns?
[15:15:00] Pitchin_uk: how do i do the channel scan bit
[15:15:00] SteveDaniels: nasa, you mean dhcp
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[15:16:00] SteveDaniels: Pitchin, you using stable or svn?
[15:16:00] Pitchin_uk: stable
[15:16:00] SteveDaniels: Pitchin, where abouts do you live?
[15:16:00] Pitchin_uk: is the frequency where i pick up the channels
[15:16:00] Pitchin_uk: hampshire
[15:16:00] Kabutor: [Elvis], wich plugin are you trying to install?
[15:16:00] Pitchin_uk: i pick up from rowridge
[15:16:00] SteveDaniels: Do you know what transmitter you use?
[15:17:00] Pitchin_uk: rowridge
[15:17:00] [Elvis]: erm Kabutor the standard pack of plugins
[15:17:00] SteveDaniels: Pitchin, Bingo, the way i did it was to manually add all the transports, then scan all the transports.
[15:18:00] Pitchin_uk: is the transport the transmitter
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[15:18:00] SteveDaniels: Pitchin, the transmitter provides about 6 transports, these have all the channels on them, the transports are the muxes IIRC
[15:19:00] SteveDaniels: Search mythtv-users for a post by me, on my recent dvb scannings
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[15:20:00] t00m: hi
[15:20:00] Kelerion: Elvis: that only part of the log.. theres a ton more above it.. but it looks like your missing a ton of development libraries.. but I have no idea which one on your distro
[15:20:00] [Elvis]: Kelerion I have sarge debian stable
[15:21:00] t00m: where does mythfilldatabase get its settings from?
[15:21:00] Kelerion: should be easy then.. but you are still not posting all of that log.. copy and paste everything from where you types "make" onwards
[15:21:00] Kabutor: t00m, from xmltv afaik or zpa2it i think
[15:22:00] Kabutor: [Elvis], try to see wich plugins you want and read the doc of each one
[15:22:00] t00m: Kabutor: ok, but where does it store the settings for, in my case, xmltv
[15:22:00] Kabutor: And you need KDE dev libraries
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[15:22:00] [Elvis]: Kabutor it's weird isn't it?
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[15:22:00] Kabutor: in you ~/.xmltv/
[15:22:00] Pitchin_uk: what do i need to put in for the frequency
[15:23:00] Kabutor: [Elvis], its not weird, each plugin will have some deps, wich are clearly stated in the docs..
[15:23:00] [Elvis]: kde dev libraries?
[15:23:00] SteveDaniels: Pitchin, I found my post: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . 2055?#172055
[15:23:00] t00m: Kabutor: sure that it's not, in my case, .mythtv/perth.xmltv ?
[15:23:00] SteveDaniels: Pitchin: That wouldn't be you I was replying to would it?
[15:23:00] t00m: Kabutor: or .mythtv/.xmltv
[15:24:00] Pitchin_uk: ok cheers
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[15:24:00] [Elvis]: you mean kdelibs4-dev ?
[15:24:00] Kabutor: t00m, maybe :) Ive been playing with xmltv lately and it saves the settings in ~/.xmltv but not sure if muythfilldatabes use that sorry
[15:25:00] Kabutor: t00m, I suppose it does, but I can be wrong
[15:25:00] [Elvis]: mythfilldatabase uses your grabber conf from that dir?
[15:25:00] t00m: Kabutor: i'm trying to figure out, why mythfilldatabase doesn't to anything .. is there a undocumented 'bemoreverbose' or 'debug' flag?
[15:26:00] Kabutor: run it in a console and set -v
[15:26:00] Pitchin_uk: cheers i have a lock now
[15:26:00] darkdrgn2k: question:
[15:26:00] Kabutor: or run directly tv_grab_es_yourcountry
[15:26:00] t00m: and then it sais: illegal option: '-v' (use --help)
[15:26:00] darkdrgn2k: i have a NFS mount.. in that Directory i have a directory STORE mounted to a differnt HD
[15:27:00] SteveDaniels: Pitchin: no problem, it took my hours of googling to figure out how to tune dvb with stable, and i still don't know if that's the "right" way to do it. All I know is, it's a piece of cake in svn.
[15:27:00] darkdrgn2k: sory
[15:27:00] darkdrgn2k: on the SERVER i have an NFS export.. in that directory i have a directory store mounted to a differnt HD
[15:27:00] darkdrgn2k: on the SLAVE i mounted the NFS export but the STORE directory is empty
[15:27:00] Kabutor: mythfilldatabase --help says that -v is verbose
[15:27:00] darkdrgn2k: any one know how to get aroun dthat
[15:27:00] SteveDaniels: Right, am actually going up into the loft this time, me got some patch panels to wire!
[15:28:00] Kabutor: t00m, maybe you have to specify -v X where X is log level
[15:28:00] t00m: i may have found it
[15:29:00] t00m: it's trying to grab to /var/db/tv_grab_au but i had /var/db/tv_grab/
[15:29:00] t00m: and it doesn't (or can't) create the directory
[15:32:00] Pitchin_uk: right i have gone through the setup for mythtv – do i need to do the fill database command
[15:33:00] t00m: no
[15:33:00] [Elvis]: I get an error compiling the plugins saying it can't find qtiffio.cpp
[15:33:00] [Elvis]: tiffo.h even
[15:33:00] [Elvis]: tiffio.h
[15:37:00] Kelerion: is that for mythballery?
[15:37:00] Kelerion: gallery
[15:38:00] [Elvis]: never mind, allready found it in libtiff4-dev
[15:38:00] Kelerion: yup
[15:38:00] Kelerion: there's loads of dependencies for all the plugins.. you'll need to make sure they're all there
[15:38:00] [Elvis]: do you guys know how I can remove the green bar on top of mythtv when running it..so it doesn't show
[15:39:00] [Elvis]: it's quitte annoying :PO
[15:39:00] [Elvis]: it's the xterm top bar
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[15:41:00] cato`_: is freqid K7, S19 etc. or is it 196.25MHz ?
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[15:42:00] Kabutor: my channel is called S13 if that helps
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[15:43:00] cato`_: Kabutor: thanks
[15:44:00] jd86: I recently did a svn update, and updated my myth setup, now some recorded shows have little blips almost like their skipping, some "record" but when i go to play them the files are missing and some stop off and the screen goes blank.... any reason for this
[15:50:00] [Elvis]: can anyone tell me how to remove the exterm bar above mythtv when I run it?
[15:52:00] Kelerion: you've already asked that
[15:52:00] [Elvis]: yeah..so no one knows the answer?
[15:53:00] Kelerion: or no one has a clue what your talking about
[15:53:00] Kelerion: or why you aren't running it full screen
[15:53:00] [Elvis]: well I have the option full screen enabled
[15:53:00] [Elvis]: I started it from a xterm window...and now the green bar on top stays there
[15:54:00] [Elvis]: until I watch tv...when I watch tv and press esc..it runs in full screen and the bar is gone
[15:54:00] Kelerion: change your window manager
[15:54:00] [Elvis]: but before I watch tv...it isnt in fullscreen
[15:54:00] [Elvis]: so it only switches to fullscreen after I watched tv for the first time
[15:55:00] Kelerion: your running twm?
[15:55:00] [Elvis]: xfree86
[15:55:00] Kelerion: change your window manager
[15:56:00] t00m: how do i fix that: http://pastebin.com/506789
[15:56:00] [Elvis]: don't see how that solves that mythtv doesn't directly go to full screen on initialisition
[15:57:00] t00m: trying to find an option for that in /etc/php/apache2-php4/php.ini but i haven't yet
[15:58:00] jd86: Is there a mythtv pluginw hich allows you to burn dvds?
[15:59:00] winga: i think so
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[16:00:00] winga: jd86, i don't have a dvd burner but it seams like i have seen it
[16:00:00] jd86: yea
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[16:00:00] winga: can anyone help me get my epia mobo to boot with my pvr 250? when it goes to initialize the card it locks up
[16:01:00] t00m: found it
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[16:09:00] ircsloth: hey all, I have a knoppmyth box (P4 2.4 GHz, 250Gig HDD, 1GB ram, WinTV-PVR 150, nvidia video) and I'm getting kinda low framerates on recorded video, maybe 25FPS or so.. just slow enought where it's noticable. Anyone have any ideas as to what I might look at?
[16:11:00] Merlin83x: What do you think TV broadcasts at, ircsloth?
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[16:13:00] ircsloth: 29
[16:13:00] ircsloth: isn't it?
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[16:13:00] ircsloth: anyway, it's just slightly slower than the broadcast.. you can notice it
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[16:22:00] [Elvis]: hmm I've intstalled the plugins...but now my frontend doens't load any menu any more ?
[16:22:00] [Elvis]: I just see the frontend background
[16:23:00] [Elvis]: the last thing I see is registering mythDVD DVD Media Handler as a media handler
[16:23:00] [Elvis]: any ideas?
[16:24:00] wega_: i can't even seem to unzip the lirc-0.7.2.tar.bz2 with "tar -xjf lirc-0.7.1.tar.bz2" or "tar -xzf lirc-0.7.1.tar.bz2"... both ways tell me that it is not a bzip2 or gzip file.... I am trying to follow the HOWTO ch8 but i am getting nowhere PLZ HELP
[16:25:00] wega_: that should all be 0.7.2 btw
[16:25:00] t00m: what does file lirc-0.7.1.tar.bz2 tell you? HTML document text?
[16:26:00] wega_: yes
[16:26:00] t00m: lol
[16:26:00] t00m: don't you find that suspicious?
[16:26:00] wega_: sure but i no sh*t about why that is
[16:27:00] t00m: well
[16:27:00] t00m: do you have lynx or links installed?
[16:27:00] [Elvis]: did anyone have a problem with the plugins, with the frontend hanging after registering mythdvd dvd media handler as a media handler
[16:27:00] wega_: t00m not if i need to do that via yum
[16:27:00] wega_: i can go do that if that is all
[16:27:00] t00m: no, don't do it
[16:27:00] wega_: oh ok
[16:28:00] t00m: good in reading html source code ?
[16:28:00] t00m: at..
[16:28:00] wega_: so so i mean i am a computer engineer
[16:28:00] t00m: fine
[16:28:00] wega_: i am sure i could figure that out
[16:28:00] t00m: then try 'less lirc-0.7.2.tar.bz2'
[16:28:00] Cardoe: why are you compiling it by hand?
[16:28:00] Cardoe: use the packages...
[16:29:00] wega_: the yum packages?
[16:29:00] wega_: i tried that route and couldnt get irw shell to run
[16:29:00] t00m: what distro is that?
[16:29:00] [Elvis]: can anyone tell me how to uninstall the mythDVD plugin?
[16:29:00] wega_: fc4
[16:30:00] wega_: kernel 1656
[16:30:00] wega_: so which route should i take??
[16:31:00] t00m: *shrug* never heard of 'fc4' or 'kernel 1656' before
[16:31:00] wega_: fedora core ?
[16:31:00] t00m: why don't you just do what i suggested
[16:31:00] wega_: that is fine
[16:31:00] wega_: i just want to do what will get me up and running
[16:32:00] Kelerion: Elvis: I doubt mythdvd is causing you problems with menus
[16:32:00] [Elvis]: wel
[16:32:00] [Elvis]: Kelerion
[16:32:00] wega_: t00m: plus your way seems to make it to where i will learn more
[16:32:00] [Elvis]: it just freezes after it says registering mythdvd dvd media handler as a media handler
[16:32:00] wega_: i have done that
[16:32:00] [Elvis]: in the console
[16:32:00] [Elvis]: there's no more output then that so I have no clue where the problem lies
[16:33:00] [Elvis]: Any ideas where I can start Kelerion ?
[16:34:00] [Elvis]: or how I uninstall the plugin
[16:34:00] Kelerion: try running it with the -v param
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[16:34:00] Kelerion: run "mythfrontend -v help" to give you the options you can use
[16:35:00] [Elvis]: Kelerion with what arguments
[16:35:00] Kelerion: I always use "all" but you'll get a lot of output
[16:36:00] [Elvis]: Kelerion in -v all it says nothing more
[16:36:00] [Elvis]: just Registering MythDVD DVD media Handler as a media handler
[16:36:00] [Elvis]: that's the last thing it says
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[16:38:00] [Elvis]: any idea how I can disable the plugin?
[16:38:00] dasOp: remove the so
[16:39:00] dasOp: that'd work for sure :)
[16:39:00] [Elvis]: hmm but no-one has a clue why it stops loading?
[16:40:00] Kelerion: "./configure --disable-mythdvd" when making it all would work.. but I'm betting that ain't your problem
[16:40:00] [Elvis]: why not?
[16:40:00] [Elvis]: it worked before I installed the plugins...so the problem must be at the plugins right?
[16:41:00] wega_: I would like to use lirc and i am following jarod's guide on doing that... when i run "/sbin/service lircd start" i get no "OK" and nothing is written to /var/log/messages... then when i run "/usr/bin/irw" i get "connect: No such file or directory".... I need some HELP PLZ
[16:42:00] wega_: i am at my wits end here
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[16:44:00] [Elvis]: so how can I totaly undo the plugin install?
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[16:47:00] wega_: I would like to use lirc and i am following jarod's guide on doing that... when i run "/sbin/service lircd start" i get no "OK" and nothing is written to /var/log/messages... then when i run "/usr/bin/irw" i get "connect: No such file or directory".... I need some HELP PLZ
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[16:48:00] [Elvis]: hm this is so annoying
[16:49:00] wega_: i know
[16:49:00] dasOp: elvis: to get rid of mythdvd, just remove the library for it
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[16:49:00] [Elvis]: das0p where is it stored?
[16:49:00] dasOp: that depends
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[16:50:00] dasOp: did you compile it yourself?
[16:50:00] [Elvis]: yeah
[16:50:00] dasOp: I'm guessing somewhere in /usr/local/lib
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[16:50:00] [Elvis]: found it
[16:50:00] [Elvis]: can I just rename it?
[16:50:00] dasOp: updatedb; locate libmythdvd
[16:50:00] dasOp: move it out of there
[16:51:00] dasOp: bet mythtv searches that dir
[16:51:00] [Elvis]: erm
[16:51:00] [Elvis]: I renamed it to .so.bak
[16:51:00] [Elvis]: now I don't get the wwarning
[16:51:00] [Elvis]: but it still doesn't continue to load
[16:51:00] [Elvis]: I'm going crazy here..
[16:51:00] [Elvis]: so it wasn't a problem in dvd
[16:53:00] [Elvis]: what is normally loaded after the dvd module?
[16:53:00] [Elvis]: ok
[16:54:00] [Elvis]: when I change the name of the plugins dir it works again
[16:54:00] [Elvis]: so it is a problem in one of the plugins
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[16:57:00] dasOp: guess you'll have to try them one after one
[16:57:00] [Elvis]: I'm deleting them one at a time now
[16:57:00] [Elvis]: :P
[16:58:00] [Elvis]: ok
[16:59:00] [Elvis]: the problem was in news
[16:59:00] [Elvis]: I think
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[17:01:00] [Elvis]: well
[17:01:00] [Elvis]: it's not the only one
[17:01:00] [Elvis]: I guess
[17:01:00] [Elvis]: giving the prolems
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[17:01:00] [Elvis]: should I just rebuild the complete stuff?
[17:04:00] GreyFoxx: I assume you have run mythfrontend with verbos output to see what is going on when you are seeing this problem?
[17:05:00] [Elvis]: yeah
[17:05:00] [Elvis]: but there's no further output in console
[17:11:00] [Elvis]: I'm just adding them one byone
[17:12:00] [Elvis]: ok it freezes when I add weather
[17:16:00] ** Kelerion returns from the phone **
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[17:16:00] Kelerion: why do customers think they can call me at home for tech support on a Sunday???
[17:16:00] GreyFoxx: I had call yesterday like that
[17:17:00] [Elvis]: lol Kelerion :p
[17:17:00] GreyFoxx: rather than go through the normal support procedure and get the on call people the moron figured "I'd just call you" and tracked down my cell #
[17:17:00] Kelerion: yup... exactly the same
[17:18:00] GreyFoxx: So I he didn't understand the concept that my time outside of the office, and when not on call belongs to me and my family, so fsck off
[17:18:00] Kelerion: I called him from my cell a couple of weeks ago while I was out.. I was chasing up an invoice – cheeky git stored the number
[17:19:00] [Elvis]: does anyone have any idea why these plugins are giving me so much trouble
[17:19:00] [Elvis]: no errors or nothing while building
[17:19:00] [Elvis]: some work, some don't
[17:19:00] GreyFoxx: Kelerion: Yeah, I have a few that got my MSN info from a coworker who I thoroughly gave hell too. Now he tries to get me on msn at all hours of the day before trying to go through normal support processes
[17:19:00] Kelerion: now he thinks that because he finally payed me the invoice (late by 4 months) he has the right to call me whenever he wants.. lol
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[17:20:00] [Elvis]: gallery and weather make frontend hang so far
[17:20:00] [Elvis]: new also
[17:20:00] [Elvis]: news
[17:20:00] [Elvis]: any clues?
[17:21:00] GreyFoxx: I remember years ago when one cable modem customer at the ISP I worked for looked me up in the phone book and called me at home at 11pm on a Friday night... people just don't get it
[17:21:00] Kelerion: Elvis: is this a brand new install? or an upgrade?
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[17:21:00] [Elvis]: brand new instal Kelerion
[17:21:00] Juski: well that's me little video done.. just rendering now
[17:22:00] linux_learner: i am totally lost using xmltv
[17:22:00] GreyFoxx: [Elvis]: My suggestions would be to watch te logs, enable and watch mysqls logs, use strace and gdb
[17:22:00] Kelerion: Juski: are you gonna make this video downloadable for us all to see? :P
[17:22:00] GreyFoxx: but if those are not an option , then no I have no idea what would cause it
[17:22:00] Kelerion: all will I have to wait to see it at lug live?
[17:22:00] Juski: depends how big it ends up
[17:22:00] GreyFoxx: Juski: Video for what ?
[17:22:00] Juski: heheh
[17:22:00] [Elvis]: ok but greyfoxx I get no errors in building it/..
[17:23:00] Juski: GreyFoxx: made a little promo vid ;)
[17:23:00] linux_learner: i have tried the various commands and cant do xmltv tv_grab_na_dd --configure
[17:23:00] [Elvis]: and no errors running frontend
[17:23:00] [Elvis]: it just doesn't work :P
[17:23:00] GreyFoxx: [Elvis]: So ? Nothing I just described has anything to do with compiler errors
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[17:23:00] Kelerion: and I remember Juski saying that video editing is a "Serious Hobby" so am expecting a professional result! :P
[17:23:00] Juski: something eye-catching to run on a loop :)
[17:23:00] [Elvis]: ok this is fun greyfoxx
[17:24:00] [Elvis]: I removed the complete plugins directory
[17:24:00] [Elvis]: but now it doesn't run anymore
[17:24:00] [Elvis]: the frontend
[17:24:00] [Elvis]: so the problem must be somewhere else I guess
[17:24:00] Juski: had to capture the bugger in windows though – spare PVR card I've got is a Leadtek jobbie... and just aswell I didn't need audio coz that still doesn't work
[17:24:00] [Elvis]: let's try a reboot
[17:25:00] kyu_flux: Juski: I eat crow – when I went back to ivtv 0.4.0 it worked fine
[17:25:00] Juski: Kelerion: let me put it this way – there's 8 tracks of video
[17:25:00] ** Juski gaves upwards & whistles **
[17:26:00] kyu_flux: I still hear this metallic kinda sound when I record some shows but i'll just live with it
[17:26:00] Juski: *gazes, even
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[17:26:00] Juski: kyu_flux: I had that
[17:26:00] Kelerion: well that sounds impressive... can't wait to see it :)
[17:26:00] Juski: set the audio sampling frequency to 48khz in all your recording profiles
[17:27:00] kyu_flux: Juski: i'll give it a try =) I need to get a bigger hard drive now
[17:27:00] kyu_flux: they had a friggin All In The Family marathon this weekend that killed my space
[17:27:00] kyu_flux: =)
[17:27:00] Juski: haha
[17:28:00] Juski: I'm trying to watch 2 or 3 shows a day now
[17:28:00] kyu_flux: oh well no it was worse than that
[17:28:00] Juski: Click on BBC News24 were at CES
[17:28:00] kyu_flux: I told it to record AITF and then I wake up yesterday to no space – I didn't know they had one this weekend... and now I wanna watch them all
[17:28:00] kyu_flux: and transcoding isn't going to help me
[17:29:00] [Elvis]: ok I did a reboot ....now when I start mythbackend it starts complaining about the database
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[17:29:00] [Elvis]: database scheme upgrade fialed
[17:29:00] [Elvis]: couldn't upgrade database to new scema
[17:29:00] Kelerion: thats why I asked if it was an upgrade.. sounds like a database issue to me
[17:30:00] kyu_flux: [Elvis]: you should've known that when you ran the script – did it complain when you ran the script?
[17:30:00] [Elvis]: kye_flux what script?
[17:30:00] kyu_flux: [Elvis]: how did you upgrade the database?
[17:30:00] [Elvis]: upgrade the databse?
[17:30:00] [Elvis]: I didn't?
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[17:31:00] [Elvis]: I just installed the plugins
[17:31:00] [Elvis]: and after that removed the libraries for the plugins
[17:31:00] [Elvis]: rebooted..
[17:31:00] [Elvis]: and now I get the database shit problems
[17:31:00] kyu_flux: ok no idea then... sorry... i'm new to this myself but I already did some database update and I didn't see the backend tell me anything
[17:33:00] [Elvis]: Kelerion do you know this error?
[17:33:00] GreyFoxx: This is a new install? try saving yourself some effort and just drop/create the blank database and start from scratch
[17:33:00] Kelerion: Elvis: I've seen it yes
[17:34:00] [Elvis]: greyfoxx what do you mean start from scratch?
[17:34:00] [Elvis]: you mean reinstall complete mythtv?
[17:34:00] GreyFoxx: there database
[17:34:00] [Elvis]: how do I reinstall the db only then?
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[17:34:00] Kelerion: "mysqladmin -u root -p drop mythconverg"
[17:35:00] kyu_flux: GreyFoxx: after he does that, he'll need to re-customize the whole thing, right?
[17:35:00] Kelerion: "mysqladmin -u root -p create mythconverg"
[17:35:00] ** Juski goes to read the paper **
[17:35:00] Kelerion: "mysql -u root -p mythconverg < mc.sql"
[17:35:00] GreyFoxx: kyu_flux_: He would, but he already said this was a new install so it wouldn't have much
[17:35:00] GreyFoxx: Kelerion: that mc.sql is uneeded
[17:35:00] Kelerion: oh.. true
[17:35:00] kyu_flux: Kelerion: mc.sql doesn't have much in it... right?
[17:35:00] GreyFoxx: the drop and create will do it
[17:35:00] Kelerion: it doesn't automatically now
[17:36:00] GreyFoxx: [Elvis]: Don't botehr with mc.sql this time
[17:36:00] kyu_flux: Kelerion: nevermind, that's what I was thinking – last week when I did mine someone told me that Myth will create all the entries
[17:36:00] Kelerion: yes.. is does create them
[17:36:00] GreyFoxx: all mc.sql does is create the blank database and give access to it to the mythtv user
[17:36:00] Kelerion: my brain ain't working :)
[17:36:00] GreyFoxx: the myth apps do the rest
[17:37:00] [Elvis]: hmm
[17:37:00] [Elvis]: why can't I drop mythconverg as root?
[17:37:00] [Elvis]: when I'm in mysql program
[17:37:00] GreyFoxx: root can do pretty much anything
[17:38:00] Kelerion: Elvis: use mysqladmin insteal
[17:38:00] Kelerion: instead..even
[17:38:00] [Elvis]: hmm have to set password for mysqladmin?
[17:39:00] Kelerion: if you haven't already set one.. just press enter
[17:39:00] GreyFoxx: or don't bother putting the -p on the commandline and it wont even ask
[17:40:00] [Elvis]: ok dropped it
[17:40:00] [Elvis]: :P
[17:40:00] linux_learner: there doesnt seem to be a tv_grab_na command
[17:40:00] Kelerion: see? I assume too much.. like assuming people have set passwords
[17:41:00] [Elvis]: Kelerion :P
[17:41:00] Kelerion: it's tv_grab_na_dd on mine.. but I use the uk one
[17:42:00] [Elvis]: where can I find mc.sql ?
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[17:42:00] linux_learner: Kelerion, which version?
[17:42:00] Kelerion: Elvis: don't bother with mc.sql
[17:42:00] Kelerion: linux_learner: which version of what?
[17:43:00] linux_learner: xmltv
[17:43:00] linux_learner: http://www.pasteserver.net/paste/show/50
[17:43:00] GreyFoxx: we no longer use an xmltv grabber for North America
[17:44:00] linux_learner: ok
[17:44:00] linux_learner: so how do i do thi
[17:44:00] linux_learner: this
[17:44:00] [Elvis]: lol
[17:44:00] [Elvis]: I can't login on mysql anymore
[17:44:00] [Elvis]: :P
[17:44:00] |Slurpee|: anybody good here with knoppmyth ?
[17:44:00] GreyFoxx: for north america myth uses Zap2its data direct service
[17:44:00] [Elvis]: I think because I set password
[17:44:00] linux_learner: so how do i do direct service
[17:45:00] GreyFoxx: linux_learner: read the documentation at mythtv.org ?
[17:45:00] linux_learner: yes
[17:45:00] GreyFoxx: And you've setup your zap2it account ?
[17:46:00] [Elvis]: mysqladmin: CREATE DATABASE failed; error; Can't create database mythconverg (errno:28)
[17:46:00] linux_learner: yes GreyFoxx i have
[17:47:00] linux_learner: http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/index.php?s . . . #entry116687
[17:47:00] GreyFoxx: What does that have to do with mythtv ?
[17:48:00] linux_learner: except now GreyFoxx i cant even use those commands
[17:48:00] linux_learner: well mythtv uses xmltv, and i cant watch nothing until i get my channels
[17:48:00] kyu_flux: |Slurpee|: try #knoppmyth
[17:48:00] GreyFoxx: linux_learner: Nothing on that page has anything to do with configuring mythtv
[17:49:00] [Elvis]: lol greyfoxx I can't create a freaking database any more
[17:49:00] linux_learner: cause thats the only area i have a prob with
[17:49:00] Kelerion: Elvis: you set a root password for mysql?
[17:49:00] kyu_flux: i'm using it now until I get off my lazy ass and buy a new HD , but maybe I can help (if it's simple enough)
[17:49:00] [Elvis]: yeah
[17:49:00] [Elvis]: but that's not the problem
[17:49:00] [Elvis]: I did
[17:49:00] [Elvis]: mysql -p
[17:49:00] Kelerion: restart mysql or reload it's priveleges
[17:49:00] [Elvis]: and then create database mysqlconverg
[17:49:00] [Elvis]: I'm rebooting complkete system now
[17:50:00] Kelerion: mysqlconverg? whats that supposed to be for?
[17:50:00] GreyFoxx: linux_learner: ignore everything on the URL you just posted, it has nothing to do with myth
[17:50:00] [Elvis]: erm
[17:50:00] [Elvis]: sorry
[17:50:00] [Elvis]: mythconverg
[17:50:00] [Elvis]: type
[17:50:00] [Elvis]: typo
[17:50:00] [Elvis]: :P
[17:51:00] GreyFoxx: after you have setup your labs.zap2it account an dconfigured your listings go into mythtv-setup and enter your info in a Videosource
[17:51:00] linux_learner: ok, so how do i configure xmltv
[17:51:00] GreyFoxx: You don't
[17:51:00] [Elvis]: ok...so I get the error: ERROR 1006: Can't create database 'mythconverg'. (errno: 28)
[17:51:00] GreyFoxx: Tell mythtv-setup it's using the NorthAmerica Data Directly XMLTV grabber and it will infact use it's own methods. xmltv isn't required
[17:52:00] kyu_flux: [Elvis]: have you googled to see what error 1006 might be in mysql?
[17:52:00] linux_learner: ok
[17:52:00] [Elvis]: doing i now
[17:52:00] [Elvis]: :P
[17:52:00] Kelerion: I bet it's a permission error
[17:53:00] Kelerion: Elvis: what command are you running to get that error?
[17:53:00] [Elvis]: maybe I ran out of diskspace?
[17:53:00] [Elvis]: how to check free diskspace?
[17:53:00] kyu_flux: hahaha first entry in google said that
[17:53:00] kyu_flux: scroll down to the bottom and try that chown thing
[17:53:00] [Elvis]: did
[17:53:00] [Elvis]: didn't work
[17:54:00] [Elvis]: so wanna check diskspace
[17:54:00] [Elvis]: :P
[17:54:00] [Elvis]: what's the command?
[17:54:00] kyu_flux: df -H
[17:54:00] Kelerion: type "df"
[17:54:00] [Elvis]: yup
[17:54:00] [Elvis]: available 0
[17:54:00] [Elvis]: :P
[17:54:00] [Elvis]: ok that's a problem
[17:54:00] [Elvis]: how can I have used 896 mb?
[17:54:00] kyu_flux: please tell me that's one partition
[17:54:00] [Elvis]: yeah it is
[17:55:00] [Elvis]: :P
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[17:55:00] [Elvis]: I thought 1 gigh just for mythtv and linux would have been enough?
[17:55:00] [Elvis]: how can I see where all my space has gone too?
[17:55:00] kyu_flux: what about your other partitions?
[17:55:00] kyu_flux: what distro are you using?
[17:55:00] GreyFoxx: that's pretty small for most distros these days unless you went out of your way to minimize the install
[17:56:00] xvalentinex: Elvis, use the `du` command
[17:56:00] [Elvis]: I minimized it
[17:56:00] kyu_flux: that's what I was thinking, GreyFoxx
[17:56:00] [Elvis]: it says 4 .
[17:56:00] kyu_flux: [Elvis]: what did you set for your other partitions?
[17:56:00] kyu_flux: or did you only install one?
[17:56:00] [Elvis]: I use debian stable
[17:56:00] [Elvis]: 40 gigh
[17:56:00] [Elvis]: on 1
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[17:57:00] [Elvis]: how can I find files bigger then like say 50 mb?
[17:57:00] kyu_flux: hdx1 or ... ok so when you go df -H does it only show /dev/hdx1?
[17:57:00] kyu_flux: mounted on '/' ?
[17:58:00] [Elvis]: no also /dev/hda5 mounted as /home
[17:59:00] kyu_flux: well all I can say right now is that you'll need to take a partition and mount it somewhere into myth
[17:59:00] [Elvis]: damn
[17:59:00] [Elvis]: how can it be full so fast
[17:59:00] kyu_flux: I dunno where myth default installs to but on my box it's /myth, and I have a 70 GB partition for it
[17:59:00] [Elvis]: guess I have to reinstall completely
[17:59:00] jams: [Elvis]- find -size +50M /
[18:00:00] kyu_flux: [Elvis]: as GreyFoxx said, a 1GB parition for install isn't really reasonable for most distributions, and since you have other partitions just mount those up appropriately
[18:00:00] [Elvis]: I'll just format
[18:00:00] [Elvis]: and make it 10 gigh
[18:00:00] [Elvis]: for the distro
[18:00:00] [Elvis]: there goes 2 days works
[18:00:00] [Elvis]: :(
[18:00:00] Kelerion: and 30g for recordings??
[18:01:00] [Elvis]: no gonna buy new one
[18:01:00] [Elvis]: 500 gigh I guess
[18:01:00] kyu_flux: <sigh> I guess 500 gigs
[18:02:00] Kelerion: Elvis.. it won't take you 2 days to get back to where you are now
[18:03:00] kyu_flux: [Elvis]: what distribution? gentoo? debian (or something like Knoppmyth)?
[18:03:00] dasOp: my current working install is my fourth (including os installs)
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[18:15:00] Pitchin_uk: hi
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[18:16:00] Pitchin_uk: potentially silly question. im new to mythtv and i have scheduled a recording. im guessing as long as the backend is running i don't have to have the front end running
[18:16:00] kyu_flux: this is true
[18:17:00] Pitchin_uk: cool – just testing everything at the mo
[18:18:00] dasOp: yeah, I mostly just schedule recordings via mythweb
[18:19:00] dasOp: rarely have the frontend on
[18:19:00] [Elvis]: damn, this must be my NOT so lucky day
[18:23:00] FunkyELF: is it normal to have 13 mythbackend processes running?
[18:24:00] alpha255: Pitchin_uk, that makes sense
[18:24:00] alpha255: front is running on one machine
[18:24:00] alpha255: back on the other right?
[18:24:00] Pitchin_uk: nah same on both
[18:25:00] dasOp: funkyelf: if you have older 'ps' version or threading lib, you may see it that way
[18:25:00] Pitchin_uk: i mean the actual program
[18:25:00] dasOp: its 13 threads, not 13 processes
[18:25:00] Pitchin_uk: cos im testing i have a konsole session with backend and use another konsole session for frontend
[18:25:00] alpha255: i'm new too and have a problem with my video chipset
[18:25:00] Pitchin_uk: backend is still running
[18:26:00] alpha255: it's a km266 and doesn't support accellerated video
[18:26:00] alpha255: there is an agp slot on the board though
[18:26:00] alpha255: 462 socket board
[18:26:00] FunkyELF: dasOp, yeah...ps is showing it that way and so is top
[18:26:00] alpha255: should i get another motherboard or buy a video card?
[18:26:00] alpha255: which mb or video card would you get?
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[18:27:00] alpha255: VT8378 [S3 UniChrome] Integrated Video
[18:27:00] alpha255: is what I have
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[18:28:00] cosmo_: trying to emerge mythfrontend on a gentoo machine. I am using a global -mysql flag and a local frontendonly flag for the mythtv package, yet it still wants to emerge mysql. Does it really need it? Ive got my database elsewhere
[18:29:00] dasOp: funkyelf: nothing to worry about :)
[18:29:00] xpis: mythbackend for some reason is not switching channels on a v4l driver... does anyone know how it switches channels? Does it call a script or make calls directly?
[18:29:00] dasOp: directly
[18:29:00] xpis: (I try to change a channel and it just pauses and remains on the same channel)
[18:29:00] dasOp: cosmo: well it needs the client libraries atleast
[18:30:00] Nichotin: xpis: sounds like the channel you are trying to switch to is not tuned in correctly
[18:30:00] xpis: It is.
[18:30:00] cosmo_: dasOp, okey dokey, thanks
[18:30:00] fir3st0rm: xpis: are your channels configured correctly?
[18:30:00] xpis: I can switch channels using, for example, v4lctl.
[18:30:00] fir3st0rm: xpis: do you have an epg?
[18:30:00] xpis: And yes, my channels are configured correctly. I get scheduling details and everything.
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[18:31:00] fir3st0rm: when you enter livetv with v4l you've got an epg?
[18:31:00] xpis: yes
[18:31:00] xpis: It thinks its on a channel, even though it's really not.
[18:32:00] fir3st0rm: open mythbackend -v from terminal and take a look at the log when you try to change channels
[18:33:00] squish102: any1 ever got a Leadtek WinFast 2000 sound working? or any bttv card with sound going through a patch cable? (without mono/one channel/terrible hiss)
[18:34:00] squish102: i have tried 2 tuners and 2 sound cards, and i only have the problem with mythtv
[18:34:00] xpis: I have done that. I get messages saying it is making calls to the v4l drivers.
[18:35:00] fir3st0rm: what does the frontend log say?
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[18:36:00] cosmo_: is there a way to instruct mythfrontend externally to play a recorded program?
[18:36:00] xpis: hm.. I'm looking at the log again and I see this message:
[18:36:00] xpis: 2006-01–15 13:37:17.472 Channel(/dev/video0)::TuneToFrequence(): Error -1 while setting frequency (v2): Invalid argument
[18:36:00] xpis: 2006-01–15 13:37:17.472 Error, couldn't find any available channels.
[18:36:00] xpis: 2006-01–15 13:37:17.472 Your database is most likely setup incorrectly.
[18:36:00] xpis: [mpeg4 @ 0x7c52134]header damaged
[18:36:00] xpis: Marker bit missing before vop_coded
[18:36:00] xpis: Marker bit missing before vop_coded
[18:36:00] xpis: Marker bit missing before vop_coded
[18:36:00] xpis: Marker bit missing before vop_coded
[18:36:00] xpis: [mpeg4 @ 0x7c52134]warning: first frame is no keyframe
[18:36:00] xpis: 2006-01-
[18:36:00] xpis: sorry, didn't mean to paste all that
[18:37:00] xpis: That's strange, as the I can scroll through channels while watching TV.. it just doesn't want to tune to any.
[18:38:00] Kelerion: looks like your freqencies aren't setup correctly
[18:39:00] xpis: And how do I fix that?
[18:39:00] Kelerion: well.. I'd use mythweb.. but you can also you the channel editor in mythtv-setup
[18:40:00] Kelerion: where are you getting your channels from?
[18:40:00] xpis: datadirect
[18:40:00] xpis: All the channels are in the mythtv-setup channel editor.
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[18:41:00] Kelerion: I'm the UK.. so it's different here.. but I thought your channel grabbers setup your frequencies automatically
[18:42:00] Kelerion: or zap2it subscription or whatever you use over there
[18:42:00] xpis: Do you know the configuration file to edit this by hand? I prefer manual configuration to GUI things.
[18:42:00] Kelerion: it's stored in the db
[18:43:00] Kelerion: in the channels table
[18:43:00] xpis: I figured frequency data would have a config file of its own.
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[18:44:00] xpis: hm.. there is a "scan for channels" button on the mythtv-setup channel editor, but it is disabled.
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[18:49:00] Pitchin_uk: ive just recorded a program – where does mythtv save its recording
[18:49:00] Pitchin_uk: s
[18:50:00] squish102: dont u set that up in mythsetup
[18:50:00] kormoc: Pitchin_uk, it's stored in mythtv-setup
[18:51:00] Pitchin_uk: also when i go to play the recording in the konsole screen it says mvs not available
[18:51:00] squish102: if I want to test recording from line-in like mythtv would, what program could i use?
[18:51:00] kormoc: squish102, what tv card?
[18:51:00] squish102: Leadtek WinFast 2000
[18:51:00] squish102: patch cable
[18:52:00] kormoc: squish102, you could use xawtv/tvtime or just live tv in myth set to the line-in
[18:52:00] kormoc: Pitchin_uk, konsole screen?
[18:52:00] squish102: kormoc, sound is perfect in those 2, but sounds like trash in mythtv, hiss, mono sound etc
[18:52:00] Pitchin_uk: yeah my install is fresh – so i haven't configured auto startup
[18:53:00] kormoc: Pitchin_uk, is there a problem with mvs not being available?
[18:53:00] Pitchin_uk: i doesn't play the recording
[18:53:00] kormoc: squish102, hrm. likely your card setup needs to be changed for line in perhaps?
[18:54:00] Pitchin_uk: i can paste the messae i get in pastebin if you want
[18:54:00] kormoc: please do
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[18:56:00] squish102: what is the best mixer app, so i can run mythtv and then from a different computer go and mess with all the controls so that i can hear when it is any good
[18:56:00] difeta: when i leave my myth client box idle for a while, the screen goes blank, and I cannot bring the display back unlessi give mouse or keyboard input. How can i stop the blanking from happening? I do not haveto have a keyboard or mouse plugged in.
[18:56:00] Kelerion: squish102: I use alsamixer
[18:57:00] kormoc: squish102, I mean, you'll likely need to set myth to capture say, 44100 or 48000 or 22500 htz
[18:57:00] Pitchin_uk: kormoc: http://pastebin.com/507066
[18:57:00] xpis: In the mythtv-setup channel editor, each channel has a rank and tv format setting. Do these need set?
[18:57:00] squish102: kormoc, tried all of those, and best quality mp3
[18:57:00] squish102: maybe i should not use mp3
[18:57:00] kormoc: Pitchin_uk, what version of ivtv?
[18:58:00] kormoc: squish102, you set them all in card settings via mythtv-setup?
[18:58:00] squish102: after 2 weeks of trying everything, i think i am going to give up :(
[18:58:00] squish102: kormoc, yes in the setup
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[18:59:00] squish102: mythtv... menu options.. setup.. defaut/livetv
[18:59:00] Pitchin_uk: i dont think i have it installed
[18:59:00] squish102: opps
[18:59:00] squish102: mythfrontend... menu options.. setup.. defaut/livetv
[18:59:00] kormoc: squish102, that's not the right place
[18:59:00] kormoc: squish102, I mean under mythtv-setup
[19:00:00] kormoc: Pitchin_uk, what's your tv card?
[19:00:00] squish102: ok going to look now
[19:00:00] Pitchin_uk: nova-t
[19:00:00] kormoc: mythtv-setup -> capture cards -> Audio Sampling Rate Limit
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[19:01:00] kormoc: Pitchin_uk, I don't know anything about that card, sorry
[19:02:00] squish102: i have that on (none)
[19:02:00] squish102: chaning it to 48000
[19:02:00] Pitchin_uk: where does the mythtv dir live
[19:02:00] Pitchin_uk: in default
[19:02:00] kormoc: squish102, my old bttv cards, one required that set to 48000 and one required it set to 44000 or what not
[19:03:00] kormoc: Pitchin_uk, where ever you set it to live by default...
[19:03:00] kormoc: Pitchin_uk, just run mythtv-setup and look ...
[19:03:00] squish102: ok going to try all combinations
[19:03:00] squish102: do i also need to change it in mythfrontend?
[19:03:00] kormoc: nah
[19:03:00] kormoc: the mp3 rate isn't the same as the record rate
[19:04:00] kormoc: you'll want to change it when you find a good one, but until they, shouldn't need to
[19:05:00] squish102: ok 48000 sounds abit better, still not as good as tvtime.. trying another
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[19:08:00] Pitchin_uk: if the recording was successful im guessing i would see a mpeg file in the folder i set it to record to??
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[19:12:00] squish102: aaaahhhhhh, it will take me another 120 minutes to get my sound back in mythtv.. i was testing in tvtime, now my sound gone in mythtv, even though i think i put it on mute and clicked record/capture
[19:14:00] squish102: is it ok to have mythtv running and then tab to alsamixer and change things, or do i have to go out and in for it to get new setting?
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[19:17:00] Pitchin_uk: any mysql people in. I need to change the mysql database root password
[19:17:00] Kelerion: "mysqladmin -u root -p password <newpass>"
[19:18:00] Kelerion: forget the -p if you haven't set a password yet
[19:18:00] dasOp: squish: alsamixer affects the system.. you can fiddle with it anyhow you want
[19:19:00] squish102: dasOp thanks
[19:19:00] Pitchin_uk: Cheers
[19:19:00] Kelerion: and either reboot, restart mysql, or reload it's priveleges table
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[19:23:00] bigdog1: hi, does anyone know if "ATI tv wonder elite, PCI" works with mythtv
[19:23:00] bigdog1: or more info would help too
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[19:25:00] GreyFoxx: The TV Wonders "should" work. the All-In-wonders wouldn't
[19:26:00] GreyFoxx: as long as you can load the bttv drivers for the tv wonder myth should bve fine with it
[19:26:00] xpis: bigdog1: There is no card with that name in the v4l drivers, so it might not be autodetected.
[19:26:00] Pitchin_uk: I can't start the backend at system run level
[19:27:00] xpis: bigdog1: Verify the chipset before purchasing it. Call the company if you have to.
[19:28:00] cosmo_: is there a way to keep mythfrontend from changing the root window?
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[19:28:00] squish102: is cd in better than aux in, or does it make no difference?
[19:28:00] bigdog1: thanks all, I guess I need a different card
[19:29:00] xpis: bigdog1: It might work fine
[19:29:00] xpis: bigdog1: Do you have the card?
[19:29:00] xpis: bigdog1: If so, check the chipset.
[19:29:00] GreyFoxx: cosmo_: How do you mean ?
[19:29:00] FunkyELF: VBR quality/quantisation (1–31).....which is best, which is worst?
[19:29:00] xpis: Has anyone else had problems with lame encoding by mythbackend? It crashes when viewing live tv when it is enabled.
[19:30:00] cosmo_: GreyFoxx, running fluxbox on a dual head system, when I run mythfrontend, sometimes it destroys the background wallpaper on both monitors
[19:30:00] cosmo_: GreyFoxx, and then I have to reset it
[19:30:00] xpis: Also, is there any way to make it encode audio using vorbis?
[19:30:00] GreyFoxx: "Destroys" it how ?
[19:30:00] whyz: hello all.. i just moved my mythtv installation to a new computer. ivtv seems to be working fine, but when i start mythtv, i can't watch live tv. it says that mythtv is already using all available inputs for recordings, which is not true.. i'm not recording anything
[19:30:00] whyz: any ideas?
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[19:31:00] cosmo_: GreyFoxx, well, it sets it back to the gray and black striped background that came with fluxbox as a default
[19:31:00] Kelerion: whyz: does it have a different hostname?
[19:31:00] cosmo_: GreyFoxx, I think you just inspired me as to the problem
[19:31:00] whyz: Kelerion, yepp
[19:31:00] GreyFoxx: cosmo_: I'd be curious to know the cause, can't imagine what myth would be doing to cause that
[19:32:00] Kelerion: and did you move the db? or start from scratch?
[19:32:00] whyz: i moved the db.. mysqldump and restore.
[19:32:00] Kelerion: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-23.html#ss23.15
[19:33:00] [Elvis]: omg nice...same poroblems with nvidia again :P
[19:34:00] cosmo_: GreyFoxx, made no changes, but it doesn't seem to be doing it anymore, good thing
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[19:47:00] xpis: Is there a way to use codecs other than lame and RTjpeg/mpeg4 for realtime encoding with mythtv?
[19:48:00] laga: you can tell mythtv not to compress the audio
[19:49:00] xpis: That wastes tons of disk space though.
[19:49:00] laga: maybe you can transcode afterwards
[19:50:00] xpis: Wouldn't transcoding also recompress the video?
[19:51:00] laga: dunno ;)
[19:51:00] xpis: Also, mythbackend crashes when encoding with lame.
[19:56:00] squish102: ok my sound is improvong.. now just to figure out how to (with patch cable) get the sound out both left and right.. i don't care about sterio
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[20:01:00] xpis: Hm.. in the myth-setup channel setup, each channel is set up with a channel number and frequency ID/channel – but mythtv complains of finding no available channels. I filled the channel database with mythfilldatabase. (getting data from datadirect)
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[20:04:00] Subzero-AK: Does anyone know what would cause this condidtion: Rip DVD hands at "No Jobs. Checking and/or waiting for DVD."....I know the DVD is mounted and mtd is running and logged the attmepted connection. I can use DVDRIP, but I would like Myth to do it
[20:05:00] Subzero-AK: hands = hangs
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[20:09:00] render1: hrmm, i can't seem to get mythfilldatabase to work right. it downloads everything but tells me: Data is already present for Sun Jan 15 2006, skipping
[20:09:00] render1: , etc. the program lineup is all wrong.
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[20:10:00] render1: how do i overwrite the info already in the database?
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[20:16:00] adante: render1: delete from program; should do it
[20:17:00] kslater: anyone know how many cycles one should expect to get out of a +RW DVD?
[20:17:00] render1: that under setup in mythfrontend?
[20:17:00] kormoc: render1, no
[20:17:00] kormoc: render1, you'll need to use mysql to do it
[20:22:00] render1: how do i change what hostname mysql is using?
[20:22:00] render1: i dun use localhost
[20:22:00] xris: mythweb, now in czech...
[20:22:00] kormoc: mysql -h hostname -u user -p mythconverg
[20:22:00] kormoc: render1, it will then prompt for the password
[20:23:00] kormoc: xris, too bad it's not in chex, I'm hungry
[20:23:00] xris: wait.. commit wasn't done. NOW in czech... heh
[20:23:00] ** kormoc wonders off looking for food. **
[20:23:00] xris: kormoc: I *know* you know how to cook. heh.
[20:23:00] whyz: Kelerion, thanks, it works fine now.. i had just exchanged the hostname in a few places, guess i missed a lot of them :)
[20:23:00] kormoc: xris, sure, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a lazy sunday morning :)
[20:23:00] xris: true, true
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[20:24:00] render1: ERROR 1130 (00000): Host 'deepthought' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server
[20:24:00] adante: xris: dekuji :]
[20:24:00] xris: adante: huh?
[20:25:00] kormoc: render1, then you're mysql is not setup to allow that host to connect, can you ssh into the box and connect from there?
[20:25:00] render1: i am local
[20:25:00] ** xris slaps kormoc for improper use of a contraction **
[20:25:00] render1: grumble, it worked before...wonder what i did
[20:26:00] xris: render1: if you're local, you might be connecting via tcp instead of socket...
[20:26:00] adante: xris: czech for thanks
[20:26:00] kormoc: xris, that was a thought change in the middle of typing without realizing it :P
[20:26:00] xris: or maybe the permissions just got whacked.
[20:26:00] xris: adante: oh.  :) you're welcome
[20:26:00] xris: kormoc: hate it when that happens
[20:29:00] tanq: i need a little help on controlling volume
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[20:34:00] red_fox: building from svn... when I run ./configure it says FireWire supoprt no. How do I enable that?
[20:34:00] xris: red_fox: install the firewire libs
[20:35:00] red_fox: xris, I believe I have all of them... maybe older versions?
[20:35:00] laga: getting tv-out to work on my diskless frontend #99. *sigh*
[20:35:00] tanq: the question is how do you control the mixer..
[20:35:00] adante: hello, what's with svn.mythtv.org?
[20:35:00] tanq: since there is a master and a pcm volume..
[20:35:00] red_fox: libavc1394, libiec61883, and libraw1394
[20:36:00] tanq: do i have to write some elaborate script to synchronize the two volumes... or is volume control somehow built into myth?
[20:36:00] kormoc: adante, it's down, that's what is with it
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[20:36:00] red_fox: tanq, most people leave master around 90–100% and just control pcm
[20:37:00] xris: libiec61883-devel >= 0.1.0svn49, libraw1394-devel >= 1.2, libavc1394-devel
[20:37:00] red_fox: xris, ok that helps, thanks!
[20:37:00] kormoc: red_fox, ooh? I've found most people leave pcm at 75% or so and control the master
[20:37:00] tanq: red_fox: well I seem to have a slight problem with that.
[20:37:00] red_fox: kormoc, oh haha... well I usually change PCM
[20:37:00] red_fox: I guess it doesn't matter either way
[20:37:00] tanq: i was talking about this the other day..
[20:37:00] xris: yeah. pcm should be 75–80% or you risk crackly speakers
[20:37:00] tanq: when I play music and spawn mplayer the volume goes down to around 10–20%
[20:38:00] tanq: and when i increase the volume and switch back to tv or video i get the same results
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[20:38:00] tanq: that is a problem in itself that I haven't diagnosed
[20:39:00] render1: ok, mysql -u mythtv -p mythconverg worked and i'm at a mysql>
[20:39:00] kormoc: that's really odd
[20:39:00] kormoc: render1, DELETE FROM programs;
[20:39:00] render1: ERROR 1146 (42S02): Table 'mythconverg.programs' doesn't exist
[20:39:00] kormoc: hrm... one sec
[20:40:00] tanq: also what should the volume up and down commands look like in lircrc
[20:40:00] xris: render1: program
[20:40:00] xris: no s
[20:40:00] tanq: the default says left and right.. but left and right to wahat
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[20:40:00] ** tanq sighs **
[20:40:00] render1: that worked :-)
[20:40:00] kormoc: yeah, oops
[20:40:00] tanq: can you send commands to ermixer?
[20:40:00] render1: now try mythfilldatabase again?
[20:40:00] kormoc: yup
[20:40:00] kormoc: you have no data for those days now
[20:41:00] adante: i see mythtv just had a protocol bump.. is it safe to bump mythweb?
[20:41:00] render1: now, i'm using zap2it, do program lineups get screwed up often?
[20:41:00] tanq: anyone?
[20:42:00] kormoc: render1, not too often, no
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[20:44:00] render1: good :-), i don't know anything about mysql
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[20:47:00] render1: hrmm still doesn't seem right
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[20:55:00] render1: should i be running mythfilldatabase as root, my normal user, or mythtv? or does it make any difference?
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[21:00:00] Rule: hello guys. Im having trouble scanning one of the DVB multiplexes. Using the scan utility, it actually says WARNING: section too short: network_id == 0x01ff, section_length == 10, descriptors_loop_len == 8
[21:00:00] Rule: hints very much appreciated
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[21:02:00] Rule: I suppose the if section_length is larger than descriptors_loop_len
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[21:02:00] Beakster: hi
[21:02:00] Beakster: is there anyway i can control mythtv with a mouse?
[21:03:00] laga: nope
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[21:04:00] render1: aha, my time settings seem to be way off
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[21:10:00] Beakster: i can make the mouse ponter appear but i would like to be able to click the buttons
[21:11:00] jams: Beakster- you and a bunch of other people. At the moment it's not possible
[21:12:00] Beakster: ok, thanks
[21:12:00] Rule: I might have dreamt it, but wasnt someone working on that ?
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[21:14:00] jonK: anyone around?
[21:15:00] Rule: no
[21:15:00] jams: Rule- the current UI will not have that feature. But if/when the ui rewrite is complete then it should work
[21:15:00] jonK: too bad
[21:15:00] tanq: guess i solved that for now..
[21:16:00] tanq: i just wrote a script to do volume incrase/decrease
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[21:17:00] tanq: i need some ideas on really quiet cpu fans
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[21:17:00] tanq: a few years back i bought a smart and friendly silent something and it was louder than any other cpu fan i have ever owned
[21:17:00] kormoc: tanq, zelman http://www.directron.com
[21:17:00] laga: hehe
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[21:17:00] laga: zalman you mean? ;)
[21:17:00] kormoc: yeah
[21:17:00] tanq: no take that back it was another brand..
[21:17:00] kormoc: :P
[21:17:00] kormoc: whatever the flower coolers are
[21:17:00] dagfinnr: i have these frequencies for my channels, ie S9 161,25MHz.. where do i enter these frequencies? and which one do i use? S9 or MHz?
[21:18:00] laga: S9 should work, or the frequency..but not in mhz, either in khz or hz
[21:18:00] dagfinnr: ok
[21:18:00] dagfinnr: where do i enter it?
[21:18:00] dagfinnr: in the mythfilldatabase --manual?
[21:18:00] laga: mythtv-setup, mythweb, mythfilldatabase --manual
[21:18:00] laga: yeah
[21:19:00] jonK: is there any reason why i would have hard drive dma acess set to off when using lvm?
[21:19:00] dagfinnr: laga, in channel number or fine tune?
[21:19:00] tanq: kormoc: which model do you own?
[21:19:00] kormoc: jonK, you should just enable it
[21:19:00] jonK: i just did, i'm curious how it got to be off in the first place
[21:19:00] laga: dagfinnr: let me take a look at my notes
[21:20:00] dagfinnr: thanks
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[21:20:00] laga: dagfinnr: freqid.
[21:20:00] dagfinnr: i dont get anything in mythfilldatabase --manual regarding freqid?
[21:21:00] laga: dagfinnr: that is weird. wait a second.
[21:21:00] laga: dagfinnr: duh, never mind – please post the output of mythfilldatabase --manual on pastebin.ca
[21:22:00] jonK: dma was off for all three drives, no idea why
[21:22:00] dagfinnr: i saw that channel number was the same as freqid
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[21:22:00] dagfinnr: atleast it saved that into the freqid in the table
[21:23:00] laga: looks like my notes are outdated then. as of 0.17, there was a freqid entry (and a channum thingie)
[21:23:00] kormoc: tanq, I don't own one myself, but I know a guy with a CNP9500 (or very similar)
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[21:26:00] kormoc: http://www.directron.com/cnps9500led.html
[21:26:00] red_fox: I just built from svn, and now am getting an error message saying the server uses protocol v 15, but client only understands v24... what did I forget to do?
[21:27:00] kormoc: red_fox, restart your mythbackend
[21:27:00] red_fox: I restarted the whole computer...
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[21:27:00] kormoc: red_fox, your backend is still running as a older version then
[21:27:00] red_fox: ok thanks
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[21:30:00] Kelerion: protocol 24? when'd that change? I updated svn this afternoon and it was at 23! lol
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[21:31:00] red_fox: hehe well I updated from svn about 30 minutes ago ;-)
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[21:31:00] red_fox: kormoc, you were right... gentoo had copied it to /usr/bin, and make install only put the new one in /usr/local/bin
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[21:31:00] jonK: hmm.... and when i reboot dma is back to off,
[21:31:00] dagfinnr: is there any way to scan for the frequencies?
[21:31:00] kormoc: red_fox, why not use the .19_pre ebuild?
[21:32:00] red_fox: kormoc, I'm just playing around... I might give them a try next
[21:32:00] red_fox: attempting to get firewire input to work from my DCT6200
[21:32:00] kormoc: red_fox, they are just svn snapshots, and work really well
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[21:33:00] red_fox: ah ok... then another compile it is
[21:33:00] kormoc: red_fox, Cardoe would like more testers as well
[21:33:00] kormoc: as it will turn into the offical ebuild when .19 is finalized
[21:33:00] red_fox: with the 6200?
[21:33:00] red_fox: ah ok
[21:33:00] jonK: how do i turn on dma permanantly?
[21:33:00] kormoc: jonK, what distro?
[21:33:00] jonK: ubuntu
[21:33:00] kormoc: I wouldn't know then, sorry
[21:35:00] squish102: what/where do i look with the following problem: with sound aux unmuted, no capture (good sound, both channels) — aux mute and select capture, (one channel, sounds bad)?
[21:35:00] squish102: intel8x0, aux in from tuner card
[21:36:00] squish102: this is while mythtv running
[21:37:00] Cardoe: kormoc: next set of them will include some plugins
[21:37:00] kormoc: yay
[21:37:00] squish102: obviously with aux unmuted i have sync problems, but i am just trying to fix sound atm
[21:37:00] kormoc: squish102, you sure your tuner is outputting both channels?
[21:37:00] squish102: does mythtv use something external to encode sound?
[21:38:00] squish102: kormoc, but it sounds purfect with aux unmuted
[21:38:00] squish102: so when the stream is getting encoded, it is happening, i think
[21:41:00] squish102: i have the following on alsamixer: master 52 – pcm 0 – (all other playback muted) aux – 0 muted – capture 35 (all other capture muted/off)
[21:42:00] squish102: will lame take a stream from aux and encode to mp3?
[21:43:00] squish102: or testing with arecord better
[21:43:00] squish102: or is that even something i should explore
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[21:47:00] squish102: think i should try knoppmyth, must be my setup
[21:48:00] Cardoe: hey ivtv 0.4.2 got released?
[21:49:00] Juski: 0.4.2? what was wrong with 0.4.1?
[21:50:00] Cardoe: didn't compile against 2.6.15 kernel
[21:50:00] laga: it worked? ;)
[21:50:00] Cardoe: had some bugs.
[21:50:00] Cardoe: laga: heh basically
[21:50:00] laga: ;)
[21:50:00] Cardoe: so Hans gave me a slap on the wrist for submitting patches against 0.4.x
[21:50:00] Cardoe: rather then 0.5.x
[21:50:00] Juski: ahh
[21:53:00] Rule: Cardoe: you need to submit patches for 0.7.x now :)
[21:53:00] Cardoe: 0.7.x?
[21:53:00] Cardoe: 0.6.x came out?
[21:54:00] Rule: 0.6 is branches
[21:54:00] Rule: trunk is now 0.7
[21:54:00] Rule: unless its a clear bugfix, patches go against trunk
[21:54:00] Rule: 0.6 will be the ivtv for 2.6.16
[21:54:00] Cardoe: Rule: you work on ivtv?
[21:54:00] Cardoe: or just keep up with the mailing list?
[21:55:00] Rule: I keep up, I work on some other stuff which makes me upgrade the kernel alot :P
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[21:59:00] red_fox: if I upgrade to the pre 0.19 ebuilds, will I need to build mythweb from svn?
[22:00:00] Led-Hed: there is a shutdown option in the Frontend setup. Its set for "halt" this only halts the system, is there a way to have it do a "shutdown -h now" (I typed this in, but didnt work)
[22:00:00] [Elvis]: can someone help me...I think I forgot a step...when I run mysql-setup I get mythtv-setup: error while loading shared libraries: libmythtv-0.18.1.so.0:cannot open shared object file:no such file or directory
[22:00:00] Led-Hed: why are you running mysql-setup?
[22:00:00] laga: [Elvis]: add /usr/local/lib/ to /etc/ld.so.conf
[22:00:00] laga: and run ldconfig
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[22:01:00] [Elvis]: ah yeah that was it indeed
[22:01:00] [Elvis]: why isn't that in the setup pages?
[22:01:00] kormoc: red_fox, yes
[22:01:00] kormoc: red_fox, but it's easy to just get mythweb from svn
[22:01:00] purplefrog: I want to add a "channel" to my mythtv that gets its input from the svideo input on my PVR-250 card.
[22:01:00] red_fox: kormoc, yeah no worries
[22:01:00] Cardoe: wow... 0.4.2 does NOT compile on my 2.6.15 kernel
[22:01:00] Cardoe: red_fox: there's a mythweb SVN ebuild
[22:02:00] Cardoe: but there's an issue with SVN mythweb working with mythtv
[22:02:00] red_fox: Cardoe, oh?
[22:02:00] kormoc: Cardoe, ooh?
[22:02:00] Cardoe: so... I'm making a new snapshot now
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[22:02:00] kormoc: Cardoe, what issue?
[22:03:00] Cardoe: the versions were diff
[22:03:00] Cardoe: protocol version
[22:03:00] kormoc: ahh, that's just a simple fix tho
[22:03:00] red_fox: Cardoe, where can I get this svn mythweb ebuild?
[22:03:00] ** kormoc shrugs **
[22:04:00] kormoc: not sure, but xris likely fixed it too
[22:05:00] Chutt: current svn should match.
[22:05:00] xris: kormoc: I didn't fix it, but daniel did
[22:05:00] purplefrog: Can I use mythtv to record stuff from the svideo input on my PVR250?
[22:05:00] xris: didn't upgrade my backend quickly enough
[22:05:00] kormoc: ahh
[22:05:00] xris: purplefrog: sure
[22:05:00] xris: that's how I use my 150
[22:06:00] purplefrog: Is there a web page documenting the process?
[22:07:00] purplefrog: I can't figure out how to add a pseudo-channel that uses the SVideo instead of the Tuner that all my real channels use.
[22:08:00] \Grooby\: anyone here have HDTV?
[22:08:00] \Grooby\: well..more like HD tuner
[22:08:00] jonK: i have the pchdtv 3000 card
[22:08:00] \Grooby\: my system load goes to 6 or 7 when I play back HD
[22:08:00] \Grooby\: jonk, does your do that?
[22:09:00] jonK: i've never really got the card to work ...
[22:09:00] \Grooby\: oh
[22:09:00] purplefrog: I wonder if grooby is paging a lot. vmstat 10 shows you paging and IO activity.
[22:09:00] jonK: not that i've spent much time trying
[22:09:00] kormoc: purplefrog, just set a input connection of the card's svideo to your channel lineup
[22:09:00] purplefrog: I have a PCHDTV 3000, but its drivers conflict with my PVR250 so I don't use it yet.
[22:09:00] jonK: seriously.. I really should spend an afternoon on that
[22:09:00] adante: red_fox: if you search on the mailing list, someone posted a link there not too long ago
[22:09:00] jonK: purple, do the drivers also conflict with teh 350 ?
[22:09:00] jonK: or the pvr500?
[22:09:00] red_fox: adante, for the mythweb ebuild?
[22:10:00] purplefrog: kormoc: I don't have channels on SVideo. It's hooked up to a game console that I occasionally want to record.
[22:10:00] \Grooby\: http://pastebin.com/507326
[22:10:00] \Grooby\: that's what my vmstat says
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[22:10:00] kormoc: purplefrog, ahh...
[22:10:00] Led-Hed: anyone here know how to get myth to shutdown from the "exit & shutdown" button?
[22:10:00] kormoc: purplefrog, you could say, go to live tv, switch it to svideo, and tell it to record
[22:10:00] purplefrog: jonK: I don't know about the 350 and 500. the kernel drivers for the 3000 conflict with ivtv's version of tveeprom.o
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[22:10:00] mofu: \Grooby\: HD a big load on almost any system
[22:10:00] \Grooby\: mofu..ok...
[22:11:00] mofu: what CPU/Mem/Video??
[22:11:00] \Grooby\: as fo the tveeprom.o thing..I just remove the one from IVTV and use the kernel ones
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[22:11:00] purplefrog: kormoc That is a possibility, but I'm worried that it might screw up recording of a regular TV program (which is more important than recording a video game.
[22:11:00] Juski: vid's finished.. a bit cheesy but hey: http://www.juski.co.uk/videos/mythtv_web.avi
[22:11:00] \Grooby\: mofu: FX 5200, AMD 3500+ 1GB ram
[22:11:00] jonK: hmm... that would be disappointing
[22:11:00] kormoc: purplefrog, live tv will prompt with what to do if a recording comes up
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[22:12:00] darkdrgn2k: any one here ever pull wires for a living?
[22:12:00] mofu: \Grooby\: should be fine, assume you have true Nvidia drivers installed?
[22:12:00] \Grooby\: yeah
[22:12:00] \Grooby\: but i am not using XV tho
[22:12:00] kormoc: you mean svmc?
[22:12:00] kormoc: *xvmc
[22:12:00] \Grooby\: yeah
[22:12:00] \Grooby\: actually I dunno if I am or not
[22:13:00] adante: red_fox: yeah iirc
[22:13:00] \Grooby\: i don't have nvidia use flag when I emerge...
[22:13:00] \Grooby\: is there anyway for me to check
[22:13:00] adante: red_fox: if not then i have no idea where i got it from :]
[22:13:00] red_fox: adante, haha ok thanks
[22:13:00] kormoc: \Grooby\, then likely your not
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[22:14:00] kormoc: \Grooby\, tho, xvmc is nice
[22:14:00] \Grooby\: should I bother with xvmc? i heard horror stories
[22:14:00] Cardoe: red_fox: kormoc: ok. Well I gotta go to the girl's place... new ebuilds when I return.
[22:14:00] kormoc: kk, enjoy!
[22:15:00] Rule: is there a way I can make the mythtv channel scanner more verbose ?
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[22:17:00] purplefrog: If I use ivtvctl -p 5 outside of mythtv to change from the tuner to the svideo input, then changing channels in mythtv doesn't switch back to the tuner input. Is there a way to work around this problem?
[22:17:00] red_fox: purplefrog, I haven't played around much with different inputs, but hitting 'c' in mythtv tells it to change the input
[22:18:00] purplefrog: Hmm, pressing c doesn't change it back.
[22:18:00] adante: anybody using auto transcoding in svn? just noticed it seems to have stopped working for me
[22:18:00] purplefrog: And, freaky. it's still using the sound from the bayonet plug, not the tuner.
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[22:19:00] kormoc: purplefrog, c should cycle though all the inputs
[22:20:00] purplefrog: It appears not to. Maybe I don't have the backend configured.
[22:21:00] Rule: you probably did not define the svideo input
[22:21:00] kormoc: you don't need to for live tv iirc
[22:22:00] purplefrog: Where is the screen for "defining the svideo input" ?
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[22:22:00] Rule: true..
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[22:26:00] Pitchin_uk: hi guys im having problems recording. i can't tell if the prog is actually recording or the playback isn't working
[22:26:00] Pitchin_uk: also i cant get the backend to start @ system runlevel
[22:26:00] Juski: Pitchin_uk: go into the recordings directory & try to play recorded files with mplayer, xine, VLC etc
[22:27:00] purplefrog: I ran mythsetup and "input connections" gives me an empty box, not even a "new thingus" entry.
[22:27:00] xpis: I'm getting an error when trying to change channels: Couldn't find any available channels. The output of SELECT * FROM channels is here: www.pastebin.com/507348
[22:27:00] Juski: Pitchin_uk: if you can only run mythbackend as a normal user, maybe you don't have a mysql.txt in the right place ;)
[22:29:00] ** Rule adds some dvb channels manually. darn scanner **
[22:29:00] xpis: Note that I have configured the channel database correctly using mythfilldatabase
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[22:30:00] Rule: xpis: freqid looks suspect ?
[22:30:00] xpis: mythtv-setup shows the correct freqid for each channel
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[22:31:00] Lobo75025: hello. can anyone help me with getting a hd3000 to work with my cable. Its mostly unencrypted, but it seems like some of the information is missing so a channel scan always fails.
[22:32:00] Pitchin_uk: juski: the only files where the recordings live is a .nuv and a .lock
[22:32:00] xpis: Rule: in the mysql query, freqid has the proper value for every channel.
[22:33:00] xpis: Rule: would you like to see my logfile?
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[22:34:00] Goose-Npa: in xine how do you change the subtitle font size
[22:34:00] Rule: xpis: I just saw it
[22:34:00] Rule: freqid is the frequency
[22:35:00] Rule: not the channel number
[22:35:00] Rule: Goose-Npa: obscure .xine configfile
[22:37:00] \Grooby\: recompiling with xvmc..let see if this helps
[22:37:00] xpis: Rule: how would I fix this?
[22:37:00] xpis: Rule: That's the way mythfilldatabase did it.
[22:38:00] xpis: Rule: After it didn't work, I even told mythfilldatabase to get settings from my (working) xawtv config.
[22:38:00] xpis: Rule: if you want to see the complete mythbackend.log file, you can do so
[22:40:00] defII: mythmusic dosent play m4p's ?
[22:40:00] Juski: Pitchin_uk: if that's the case, then only one recording worked
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[22:41:00] Juski: defII: it needs aac support compiled in to support mp4 files
[22:41:00] Goose-Npa: i forget but how do you set the xine lircd controls. Its like two config files you got to modify
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[22:41:00] defII: Juski, ok I'll recompile then
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[22:42:00] Juski: Goose-Npa: there's a lircrc file that you put in ~/.mythtv/ and a .lircrc file you put in ~/ IIRC
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[22:43:00] Led-Hed: when I try to watch recordings on the frontend, the Frontend freezes. and no Recodrings are displayed. If I do the same on the backend then the recordings show up. any Ideas?
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[22:44:00] jams: Captain_Murdoch- here?
[22:44:00] Pitchin_uk: is that what the .nuv file
[22:45:00] xpis: Could someone with a working mythtv configuration give me the output of one line from: select * from channel;
[22:45:00] xpis: I want to see what valid values are.
[22:45:00] Kabutor: Led-Hed, you dent get any error when it freeze and you make CTRL+ALT+F1 ?
[22:45:00] Juski: Pitchin_uk: in 0.18 all recordings are files with the .nuv extension
[22:46:00] Led-Hed: cant CTL+ALT+F1. It locks
[22:46:00] jams: http://pastebin.com/507373 xpis
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[22:48:00] xpis: jams: thanks.
[22:48:00] Goose-Npa: Juski: you know what the command in xine is for pause?
[22:48:00] xpis: The only difference is my finetune is set to NULL, while yours is set to 0. I'm going to try to set mine all to 0.
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[22:49:00] jams: Goose-Npa- lirc or keyboard?
[22:49:00] Goose-Npa: lirc
[22:49:00] Goose-Npa: tryin to configure my config file for xine, but i dont know what the xine commands are
[22:50:00] jams: config = Pause
[22:50:00] Goose-Npa: you have a list of all the xine commands?
[22:50:00] Juski: Goose-Npa: if you run xine from a console there's an option to get it to spit out all the commands
[22:50:00] Juski: and I found them on the xine website of all places.. tricky to locate though
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[22:50:00] jams: xine --keymap=lirc
[22:50:00] Pitchin_uk: juski: how do i open that file
[22:51:00] Pitchin_uk: or view the recording
[22:51:00] Juski: Pitchin_uk: the .nuv file? mplayer should cope with it, if it's a DVB or PVR card recording
[22:51:00] slick23: suer to user?
[22:53:00] Pitchin_uk: juski: in mplayer i get an error message of "could not initialize video filters (-vf) or video output (-vo)
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[22:54:00] slick23: whats this channel 4? :P
[22:54:00] Juski: Pitchin_uk: what kind of file is it? DVB or PVR?
[22:54:00] slick23: if im here for bev am i in the wrong channel ?
[22:54:00] Pitchin_uk: dvb
[22:54:00] Juski: Pitchin_uk: try xine then
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[22:56:00] Pitchin_uk: i dont think it actually recorded properly as the file is tiny
[22:57:00] Juski: ah
[22:57:00] Pitchin_uk: do i need to setup the recording – this is a fresh install
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[22:58:00] Pitchin_uk: is there special codecs you need
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[22:59:00] Pitchin_uk: to record
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[22:59:00] Led-Hed: anyone here running a nvidia card at 720x480?
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[23:00:00] Juski: Pitchin_uk: nothing needed to record.. mythtv should just take the DVB stream & dump it to your hard drive
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[23:01:00] Juski: Pitchin_uk: have you tested your tuner card outside of mythtv? one of the 1st steps before even installing mythtv ;) see this guide http://www.ethics-gradient.net/myth/mythdvb.html – a little out of date for the mythtv setup stuff but otherwise on the ball for testing your tuner
[23:02:00] Juski: and this one: http://www.parker1.co.uk/mythtv_ubuntu.php
[23:02:00] Pitchin_uk: juski: the card works as i have had it recording in kaffeine
[23:03:00] Juski: right.. you running 0.18 or SVN?
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[23:04:00] fdsd: hey guys, if I upgrade mysql from 4.0.23 to 5.0.18 will it break anything with mythtv?
[23:04:00] Juski: and have you scanned for channels in mythtv-setup using an initial transponder frequency gleaned from a good channels.conf (which is in turn got by running the dvb 'scan' util) ?
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[23:04:00] Juski: fdsd: don't do it!
[23:05:00] Juski: never upgrade anything just cos there's a newer version out if you can help it.. that's my motto
[23:05:00] fdsd: yeah I dont want to but thats the only way to upgrade to gnome 2.12
[23:05:00] Juski: and why do you want to do that?
[23:05:00] Rule: seems unlikely
[23:06:00] Juski: seems unlikely.. yeah apart from the fact that some of the reserved words in the newer mysql are used by mythtv
[23:06:00] Beirdo: mysql5 seems stupid to me
[23:07:00] xris: fdsd: huh? gnome doesn't require mysql5
[23:08:00] Rule: Juski: fixed in svn :)
[23:08:00] Rule: anyway my unlikely was in response to it being needed for gnome :)
[23:08:00] Juski: good that it's fixed though ;)
[23:09:00] Rule: there seem to be some other problems for some peop;e
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[23:09:00] Rule: losing connections etc
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[23:10:00] Juski: my gentoo mythbackend has stuff on it that's probably more than a year old now... don't see any need to upgrade it cos it ain't broke ;)
[23:10:00] fatmatt: anyone know how I can get the IR on my laptop to broadcast as if it was an IR keyboard?
[23:11:00] Juski: fatmatt: here's the bad news... you might not be able to
[23:12:00] phiw: ...has anyone here had problems building ivtv drivers (msp3400.ko in particular) against vanilla 2.6.15?
[23:12:00] fatmatt: I've got myself a USB IR reciever on myth thats recognised as a USB / IR keyboard, I've also got a harmony 880
[23:12:00] fatmatt: the remote that came with the IR module doesn't have many keys..
[23:13:00] fatmatt: so I'm a bit limited in training the remote
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[23:13:00] Juski: can't you just train the harmony remote to be more useful?
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[23:14:00] Rule: phiw: no because I use the kernel's msp3400
[23:14:00] Pitchin_uk: hi juski: im back after a quick reboot
[23:14:00] Juski: phiw: 0.4.2 might build against that kernel
[23:15:00] phiw: this is my first try building ivtv (just got my pvr250 today), but i can't get ivtv to build msp3400, and can't find an option in kernel's .config...
[23:15:00] phiw: make all for ivtv just happily builds everything except msp3400
[23:15:00] Rule: phiw: additional something... hang on
[23:16:00] mofu: phiw: what is the error message?
[23:16:00] Kabutor: 2.6.15 breaks me lirc, maybe its worthy to try with older versions .14 ..
[23:16:00] phiw: durn
[23:17:00] Juski: Kabutor: running with 0.4.1 here on 2.6.12 kernel
[23:17:00] phiw: i don't see any errors at all building ivtv
[23:17:00] phiw: '2>&1 make driver all|grep msp' shows no output at all
[23:17:00] Juski: phiw: probably just complaining during the make install phase then
[23:17:00] mofu: phiw: then how do you know it didn't build msp3400??
[23:17:00] Rule: phiw: CONFIG_VIDEO_BT848; CONFIG_VIDEO_DECODER; CONFIG_VIDEO_AUDIO_DECODER=m
[23:18:00] Rule: then you just need ivtv.ko
[23:18:00] Rule: works great
[23:18:00] phiw: "ls driver/msp*" shows "driver/msp3400.c driver/msp3400.h"
[23:18:00] Rule: unless you have the new samsung tuner on the PVR150
[23:18:00] Juski: what I did was do what the script suggested – rename the modules, then let it complete the install phase... then renamed the original files back.. works fine
[23:18:00] Rule: yep thats if you remove the line in the makefile to build em from ivtv
[23:19:00] phiw: i never had an msp3400.ko to begin with, though... is BT848 really needed in kernel?
[23:19:00] Rule: the trick is to have .15 running with those config options, then just make and make install
[23:19:00] Juski: phiw: not really a great idea to build V4L modules into the kernel IMHO
[23:19:00] Rule: phiw: unfortunately it is needed for the msp3400 and tda module
[23:19:00] Rule: build as module
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[23:20:00] phiw: aha... rebuilding with BT848 support then (wasn't needed for my leadtek pvr2000)
[23:20:00] Pitchin_uk: juski: the recording is now working
[23:20:00] Juski: loading modules doesn't detract from system boot & operation – and has the advantage you can take em out to help in debugging
[23:20:00] Juski: Pitchin_uk: what did you change?
[23:21:00] Rule: phiw: yep changed when nearly all additional chip modules were merged into the kernel
[23:21:00] Lobo75025: anyone here get the hd3000 card to with with cable?
[23:21:00] Pitchin_uk: i changed the codec it used to mpeg. but i can't remove the recording (probably my fault as i removed it from the folder as opposed to in the program)
[23:22:00] phiw: Rule: that explains a lot; when did that start happening? Still ongoing?
[23:22:00] Lobo75025: I can find stuff using dvbscan but autoscan in the channel setup menu in mythtv-setup doesn't find anthing.
[23:22:00] Rule: since .15 and 0.4.1
[23:22:00] Juski: Pitchin_uk: don't mess with recording profiles for DVB tuners!
[23:22:00] Rule: 0.4.1 still builds the modules if they are not there
[23:22:00] mofu: Lobo75025: had it working at one point, currently redoing my system as we speak
[23:22:00] fatmatt: Juski: I need something to train the harmony with
[23:22:00] Rule: not sure if 0.4.2 still builds its own without commenting that line
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[23:23:00] mofu: Lobo75025: you need to feed a channels.conf in the right format
[23:23:00] Juski: and btw to let mythtv delete the recording, make a dummy file with > filename.nuv – where filename is the name of the missing file (check the backend log & see where it complains it's not there when you go to delete it in mythtv)
[23:23:00] Pitchin_uk: ok cheers
[23:23:00] Rule: Lobo75025: or increase timeouts and/or set certain modes manually as they arent set correctly with "auto"
[23:24:00] Lobo75025: mofu: ok. do you create the channels.conf from the output you get from dvbscan ?
[23:24:00] mofu: Lobo75025: format like this: http://pastebin.com/507414
[23:24:00] fatmatt: Juski: ideally, I'd reset the key mapping to standard (rather than the set I've got for my crappy remote) and the harmony would use that
[23:24:00] Juski: fatmatt: that remote supports one hell of a lot of devices.. must be something in there somewhere ;)
[23:24:00] Pitchin_uk: what should i do about the recording profile
[23:24:00] mofu: you have to remove the audio/video PIDs, just Channel:Freq:QAM256:TSPROG
[23:24:00] Pitchin_uk: i suppose leave it now it works
[23:25:00] Juski: Pitchin_uk: it should be left ALONE
[23:25:00] Lobo75025: mofu: where does it live?
[23:25:00] mofu: you import the file in mythtv-setup
[23:25:00] Pitchin_uk: but it didn't work witht the other codec
[23:25:00] Juski: transcoding profiles can be altered safely (ish) but not DVB card recording profiles
[23:25:00] Rule: mofu: works fine with the full format for me... might be svn specific tho
[23:25:00] fatmatt: Juski: there's settings for mythtv but I can't get it to work with those here
[23:25:00] Pitchin_uk: it was the transcoding profile i changed :S
[23:25:00] Juski: fatmatt: those are for hauppauge remotes I think
[23:25:00] fatmatt: I don't have ircd running
[23:25:00] mofu: Rule: did they change it??
[23:26:00] Lobo75025: im using R5A30.1
[23:26:00] Rule: not sure I just imported a full channels.conf
[23:26:00] Lobo75025: how do I import it?
[23:26:00] mofu: Rule: you using svn??
[23:26:00] Lobo75025: I don't remember seeing that?
[23:26:00] Juski: right time to get some shuteye
[23:26:00] fatmatt: the IR keyboard would be perfect
[23:26:00] Pitchin_uk: i have two profiles hardware encoders and transcoders and it was the transcoder i changed
[23:26:00] Rule: mofu: yes
[23:26:00] mofu: Lobo75025: this is not a KnoppMyth forum . . . .
[23:26:00] Juski: Pitchin_uk: that shouldn't matter, but leave the hardware encoders one alone
[23:26:00] Lobo75025: Rule: is that the direct output of dvscan ?
[23:27:00] Rule: scan from dvbutils
[23:27:00] Rule: iirc
[23:27:00] Lobo75025: well, still I think the objective it to get mythtv running.
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[23:27:00] Juski: now called dvbscan in the cvs, Rule ;)
[23:27:00] Rule: ic
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[23:27:00] Rule: well I used -o vdr
[23:28:00] Pitchin_uk: yeah sure thign
[23:28:00] Lobo75025: ok so once my dvbscan finishes, then what? how do I import it into mythtv-setup ?
[23:28:00] mofu: Lobo75025: my point is that because you shortcut it w/ KnoppMyth you don't know some of the info you should
[23:28:00] Juski: Pitchin_uk: enjoy your mythtv now it works.. I'm sure you'll be adding another tuner or 2 quite soon – one is never enough ( says he who has three)
[23:29:00] Juski: afk
[23:29:00] Rule: that doesnt set the NID and TID though
[23:29:00] Pitchin_uk: cheers. im sure i will
[23:29:00] Lobo75025: mofu: point well taken, but that's why Im here right?
[23:29:00] Rule: time for bed here too
[23:29:00] Rule: work again tomorrow
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[23:32:00] jadams: so I've almost got my mythtv setup complete...now I just need to export the display to my TV prior to running mythtv...any help on doing that?
[23:32:00] jadams: I don't know how to choose the display it runs on, basically
[23:33:00] purplefrog: jadams, on my laptop I have an LCD and an svideo out. I run a dual-head X server with separate screens (not xinerama) and i can put mythfrontend on the TV by running "DISPLAY=:0.1 mythfrontend"
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[23:34:00] jadams: purplefrog: says it can't connect to that x server
[23:34:00] purplefrog: can you connect to :0.0 ?
[23:35:00] jadams: yes
[23:35:00] purplefrog: Can you connect an xterm to :0.1 ?
[23:35:00] jadams: that's where I'm confused I guess...
[23:35:00] jadams: hrm, no xterm on o0.1 I'm sure
[23:35:00] Lobo75025: how can I import the results of a dvbscan into mythtv ?
[23:35:00] purplefrog: It is possible you have not configured your X server for dual-screen.
[23:35:00] jadams: the tv (which is where I'm trying to put mythtv) is running a term right now
[23:36:00] jadams: it's x multihead
[23:36:00] purplefrog: in that term type "echo $DISPLAY"
[23:36:00] Lobo75025: mofu: you still there?
[23:36:00] jadams: I'll paste my xorg.conf if it will help...to a paste site, not in chan, obviously
[23:36:00] jadams: says 0.0 is the display
[23:36:00] purplefrog: Well, sounds like you're using xinerama, not dual-screen.
[23:37:00] jadams: but that's definitely not where the xterm goes if I do DISPLAY=:0.0 xterm
[23:37:00] purplefrog: You can probably drag the window from the TV to your monitor.
[23:37:00] jadams: I can
[23:37:00] jadams: do I not need to use xinerama to be able to do this then?
[23:37:00] purplefrog: hang on.
[23:37:00] jadams: k, thanks
[23:37:00] purplefrog: What happens if you run mythfrontend -geometry 640x480 and drag the window over to the TV?
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[23:39:00] jadams: it looks like I want it to
[23:39:00] jadams: except I'm running the tv at 800x600
[23:39:00] jadams: obviuosly nto a problem though
[23:39:00] purplefrog: Try reconfiguring the TV to 640x480
[23:40:00] purplefrog: Unless you have a TV unlike any I have encountered, it has 480 scan lines, not 600.
[23:40:00] jadams: purplefrog: what will that solve?
[23:40:00] jadams: I still want it to start up over there
[23:40:00] jadams: and I can always run geometry 800x600 if I get that working
[23:40:00] jadams: it does
[23:40:00] purplefrog: does mythfrontend -geometry 800x600+0+0 put it on the TV, or maybe 800x600+1024+0 ?
[23:40:00] jadams: I just use the 800x600 to give me more space, even though it's not as pretty
[23:41:00] Lobo75025: Is anyone here familiar with importing information from a dvbscan into mythtv ?
[23:41:00] purplefrog: 800x600, if it does not match the number of scan lines in the signal output by your video card, will cause visual suckage.
[23:41:00] jadams: ok
[23:41:00] jadams: I'll change it back, thanks for that
[23:41:00] jadams: and the + stuff works
[23:41:00] jadams: I'll brb, rebooting to change res on the tv
[23:41:00] jadams: not rebooting
[23:41:00] jadams: restarting X
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[23:43:00] xpis: Does anyone know why I would get this message:
[23:43:00] xpis: Channel: '' was not found in the database.
[23:43:00] xpis: Most likely, the default channel set for this input
[23:43:00] xpis: (1 Television )
[23:43:00] xpis: in setup is wrong
[23:43:00] xpis: Couldn't find any channels in the database, please make sure
[23:43:00] xpis: your inputs are associated properly with your cards.
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[23:46:00] confusi0n: shit
[23:46:00] xpis: My channels, however, are configured correctly.
[23:46:00] purplefrog: xpis well, if that message is wrong, then I'm confused. if it is right, you probably need to run mythsetup. find the setup documents on www.mythtv.org and read it to see what you did wrong.
[23:46:00] confusi0n: ive been hanging around in #mythtv and ive only just realised its not #mythtv-users
[23:46:00] purplefrog: Have you restarted mythbackend xpis
[23:46:00] xpis: many times
[23:46:00] xpis: And I have run mythtv-setup many times – clearing out everything and starting from scratch
[23:55:00] Kabutor: xpis have you set the default channel?
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[23:59:00] Beirdo: argh!
[23:59:00] TubularBell: Hello World.
[23:59:00] Beirdo: I may actually have to restore something from tape
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