| Friday, January 13th, 2006, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | Juski: | someone didn't follow the compiling docs about checking their QT path? |
| [00:00:00] | sputnik: | but i did! |
| [00:00:00] | Kabutor: | edit /etc/ld.co.conf and include qt3 path? |
| [00:00:00] | sputnik: | i set QTDIR |
| [00:00:00] | sputnik: | yup |
| [00:00:00] | sputnik: | done |
| [00:01:00] | Juski: | class! a music channel that doesn't splatter graphics all over the videos :) |
| [00:01:00] | sputnik: | hrm, well. found an ugly fix. |
| [00:02:00] | sputnik: | symlinked everything in /usr/local/qt3/lib to /usr/lib |
| [00:02:00] | sputnik: | even though /usr/local/qt3/lib is in ld.so.conf |
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| [00:03:00] | Kabutor: | sputnik, maybe you have some permissions problem.. no idea :( |
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| [00:06:00] | sputnik: | yarrg. |
| [00:07:00] | sputnik: | 8 bits cmap returned due to faulty FB driver, colors corrected |
| [00:07:00] | sputnik: | mplayer had no problem |
| [00:07:00] | ** sputnik looks for a hamemr ** | |
| [00:07:00] | sputnik: | hammer even |
| [00:07:00] | Chutt: | no one's done anything with the directfb output method for a while |
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| [01:08:00] | ** Juski needs a bigger hard drive ** | |
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| [01:33:00] | Kamy: | I already have a password set for mythweb, but I want to make it stronger will this command reset the main password? |
| [01:33:00] | Kamy: | htpasswd /etc/apache/basicauth mythtv |
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| [01:39:00] | jams: | Captain_Murdoch- you here? |
| [01:40:00] | Slurpee`: | yoz |
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| [01:42:00] | defaultro: | does anyone here have digital cable like Comcast digital? |
| [01:43:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | jams, yeah but not for long |
| [01:44:00] | Cromz: | sup jams :P |
| [01:48:00] | jams: | quick question then, I see in the db it schedules a userjob, but it never runs. |
| [01:48:00] | jams: | any simple things to look for? |
| [01:48:00] | Kamy: | defaultro: I have, but haven't hooked it up yet though |
| [01:48:00] | jams: | hey Cromz |
| [01:48:00] | Kamy: | I'm still tweaking and learning about my new mythbox |
| [01:49:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | check that you don't have "jobs run on recording host" and the hostname in the table is wrong. check that in mythtv-setup you enabled that job type to run on that backend. |
| [01:49:00] | jams: | ok, I did #2 but let me look at #1 |
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| [01:51:00] | Kamy: | defaultro: if it's a connection question you have you can try here http://knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=ConnectToDigitalBox |
| [01:52:00] | jams: | Captain_Murdoch- the hostname is blank in the jobqueue table |
| [01:52:00] | defaultro: | nope but that's a nice link |
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| [01:53:00] | jams: | http://pastebin.com/503371 |
| [01:59:00] | defaultro: | how does pid filtering help again? |
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| [02:01:00] | Beirdo: | Captain_Murdoch, did you see my comments earlier today about the URL & thingy? |
| [02:04:00] | defaultro: | hi Beirdo, familiar with PID filtering? |
| [02:04:00] | Beirdo: | nope |
| [02:04:00] | defaultro: | np |
| [02:04:00] | defaultro: | our Air2PC has a built in PID filtering |
| [02:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | cool, less work for the cpu |
| [02:05:00] | defaultro: | i'm planning to buy the Fusion HDTV5 lite card but it has software based pID filtering |
| [02:05:00] | defaultro: | hi GreyFoxx |
| [02:05:00] | defaultro: | The other reason is the price, it's just $99 |
| [02:06:00] | defaultro: | do you think it would affect my system so much if using sw based PID filtering? |
| [02:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | probably not |
| [02:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | unless you are really really low on cpu |
| [02:06:00] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [02:07:00] | ** GreyFoxx wonders how good the drivers are for that card ** | |
| [02:07:00] | defaultro: | it's good now according to the linuxtv wiki |
| [02:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've been wanting to pickup something to see if the local cable co is sending their HDTV in the clean like I was told |
| [02:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | and at $99 it's a risk I'm willing to take |
| [02:07:00] | defaultro: | the Gold version is still being worked |
| [02:08:00] | defaultro: | I spoke to Michael Krufky, the code writer for that card |
| [02:08:00] | jams: | mine was broadcasting in the clear, but they stopped doing that |
| [02:08:00] | defaultro: | he said that I should go for Lite |
| [02:08:00] | jams: | however you can get a cable box from them free of charge to view local HD |
| [02:08:00] | defaultro: | then I saw on avsforum how someone got mythtv working w/ that card too |
| [02:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | jams: Cool. |
| [02:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | I might just have to order one of those if they are only 99 |
| [02:09:00] | jams: | well free of charge is you order digital cable |
| [02:09:00] | defaultro: | I will order it later |
| [02:09:00] | defaultro: | :D |
| [02:09:00] | defaultro: | at cyberestore, free shipping too |
| [02:09:00] | defaultro: | 2.6.15 includes the driver for that card |
| [02:10:00] | defaultro: | I will upgrade mine next week once the card arrives |
| [02:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | defaultro: Got a link ? |
| [02:10:00] | defaultro: | the store? |
| [02:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah |
| [02:10:00] | defaultro: | http://www.cyberestore.com/product_info.php?c . . . ducts_id=172 |
| [02:10:00] | defaultro: | that's the store where I bought my Air2PC :D |
| [02:11:00] | defaultro: | look at this message, <obi> having no pid filters at all can even be an advantage if you want to analyze the transport stream, because you can receive it unfiltered |
| [02:11:00] | defaultro: | i'm talking to another channel |
| [02:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | nifty, has a mpeg encoder for analog stuff, so I would find it useful even without any clear hdtv |
| [02:12:00] | defaultro: | oh yeah |
| [02:12:00] | defaultro: | it can do analog, atsc and qam. SWEET |
| [02:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'll order one tomorrow |
| [02:12:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | Beirdo, no didn't see it, but will save scrollback, I have to run now, can't stay. jams, check mythtv-setup and make sure your backend is enabled to run those user jobs, I think they might default to off, but I can't remember |
| [02:12:00] | defaultro: | has closed caption support on Analog too |
| [02:12:00] | defaultro: | but not on atsc |
| [02:12:00] | jams: | Captain_Murdoch- it's enabled |
| [02:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'll have to pay for shipping, but I expected that :) |
| [02:12:00] | defaultro: | huh? it says free shipping |
| [02:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm not in the US |
| [02:13:00] | defaultro: | where are you at? |
| [02:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | Canada |
| [02:13:00] | defaultro: | oh cool |
| [02:13:00] | defaultro: | like Beirdo |
| [02:13:00] | jams: | Captain_Murdoch- http://pastebin.com/503378 <= settings table |
| [02:13:00] | defaultro: | I want to go to canada to buy scrambl.... |
| [02:13:00] | defaultro: | :D |
| [02:13:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | jams, try running with "mythbackend -v jobqueue" and see if you see anything in there. it should say why it skips a job |
| [02:13:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | gotta run |
| [02:13:00] | defaultro: | i wish there was a scram.... for linux |
| [02:13:00] | Beirdo: | Captain_Murdoch, sorry, I'm back |
| [02:13:00] | Beirdo: | great timing :) |
| [02:14:00] | jams: | ok, but I am doing that and it just says no jobs in the que |
| [02:14:00] | jams: | later |
| [02:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | defaultro: A "scram" ? What's that ? |
| [02:14:00] | Beirdo: | to make it quick... the issue is that wget is sending a URL with a & in it that should be a %26 for it to be a valid URL |
| [02:14:00] | defaultro: | descrambler :D |
| [02:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | oh |
| [02:15:00] | defaultro: | searched on softqam but no success too :D |
| [02:15:00] | Beirdo: | jeez, why do you people insist on talking about legally dubious crap? :) |
| [02:15:00] | defaultro: | hehehe |
| [02:15:00] | Beirdo: | defaultro, please stop or we'll have to choice but to boot you |
| [02:15:00] | defaultro: | aight |
| [02:15:00] | defaultro: | :D |
| [02:15:00] | Beirdo: | thank ye :) |
| [02:16:00] | defaultro: | i added it to my cart :D |
| [02:17:00] | defaultro: | my only concern now is the channeling |
| [02:17:00] | defaultro: | Beirdo told me the other day to add a new lineup. I saw it |
| [02:17:00] | defaultro: | But iirc, the numbering are the same |
| [02:17:00] | defaultro: | it will, i guess, conflict with my air2pc channeling |
| [02:18:00] | Beirdo: | you'll have to experiment, I guess |
| [02:19:00] | Beirdo: | oh why oh WHY did I do this? |
| [02:19:00] | Beirdo: | SendOutput(string, player) |
| [02:19:00] | Beirdo: | then ch_printf(player, format, ...) |
| [02:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | defaultro: Why would it conflict? |
| [02:19:00] | Beirdo: | oooops |
| [02:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | Will they both be connected to the same source ? |
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| [02:21:00] | defaultro: | nope |
| [02:21:00] | defaultro: | It's just my guess. I never had more than 1 tuner |
| [02:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've got 3 connected to the same source all with the same channels |
| [02:23:00] | defaultro: | will it affect my existing mythtv setup if I add a new channel lineup now even if I still don't have the Fusion card? |
| [02:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | You can add a video source, but it wont pull in listings or anything until you tie it to a card |
| [02:24:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [02:25:00] | defaultro: | gotcha. It's been a long time since i executed mythtv-setup |
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| [02:25:00] | defaultro: | i think it's the third menu |
| [02:25:00] | Juski: | GreyFoxx: you know that icon grabber script... ? where can I get it? |
| [02:25:00] | defaultro: | Greyfoxx, just finished ordering the card :D |
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| [02:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | Mail archives ? |
| [02:26:00] | defaultro: | what about this scenario. I have a non-us satellite that has a composite out. Are we able to capture the programs? |
| [02:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | defaultro: Sure oyu could if it's composite out |
| [02:27:00] | Beirdo: | of course you can capture composite out |
| [02:27:00] | Beirdo: | duh |
| [02:27:00] | defaultro: | but how do we tell the channels? |
| [02:27:00] | defaultro: | it's not in zap2it |
| [02:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | Juski: My copy is quite modified |
| [02:27:00] | Beirdo: | xmltv |
| [02:28:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [02:28:00] | Juski: | GreyFoxx: could I have a copy of yours, then? |
| [02:29:00] | ** defaultro needs to make a backup of mysql, xorg, lirc :D ** | |
| [02:29:00] | defaultro: | i haven't backed up anything yet |
| [02:29:00] | Juski: | looked in the archive.. is mythalsig.py.bz2 the one I want? |
| [02:29:00] | kyu_flux: | simple quesiton, guys... Hauppauge PVR 150 – what's a good bitrate? I think i'm overdoing it at 1.4 GB / show... |
| [02:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | Juski: yeah, I was just about to forward the email to you :) |
| [02:30:00] | Juski: | kyu_flux: experiment with different bitrates & content.. see how low a bitrate you're willing to accept |
| [02:31:00] | Juski: | cheers, muchly :) |
| [02:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | kyu_flux_: I think the average is around 2G to 2.2G |
| [02:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | for an hour show |
| [02:31:00] | Juski: | added 200 or so xmltv IDs to my new channels tonight... my eyes are a bit code-blurry |
| [02:31:00] | kyu_flux: | ok so i'm probably overdoing it... not by much... I guess I can live with it... |
| [02:32:00] | defaultro: | so once I get the card detected properly in the kernel. All I have to do is (a) go to zap2it and add a new lineup (b) run mythtv-setup and a new card and lineup and lastly (c) scan the new card |
| [02:32:00] | kyu_flux: | Juski: I was trying to make sure I wasn't picking something that was outside of the scope of an analog signal... |
| [02:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | kyu_flux_: My average is 2.4 to 2.6 |
| [02:33:00] | Juski: | I dunno what my average is yet.. not recorded any shows properly on my 150 card |
| [02:33:00] | kyu_flux: | Juski: I have it at between 600 and 800 but some forum was like, "well, anything over xyz bitrate is useless because the 150 can't capture that much" |
| [02:33:00] | kyu_flux: | GreyFoxx: sounds like we're probably using close to the same bitrate then... |
| [02:33:00] | Juski: | kyu_flux: they're talking outta their asses ;) |
| [02:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | kyu_flux_: They don't know what the3y are talking about |
| [02:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | if anything it's the resolution you might want to lower |
| [02:33:00] | kyu_flux: | good call... |
| [02:33:00] | Juski: | it can grab up to 8 or 9Mbps.. which is more than most movie DVDs |
| [02:34:00] | Juski: | not saying it'll be DVD quality though ;) |
| [02:34:00] | kyu_flux: | alright guys, I appreciate the info... I gotta get running... |
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| [02:34:00] | kyu_flux: | see you guys later |
| [02:34:00] | Juski: | over a TV output you can probably lose half the vertical resolution & hardly notice |
| [02:35:00] | Juski: | there's a thing now.. does scaling work on the PVR150 yet? |
| [02:35:00] | kyu_flux: | no idea... |
| [02:35:00] | kyu_flux: | how do I find out? |
| [02:36:00] | Juski: | well, I think the scaling was disabled in mythtv.. not sure though |
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| [02:36:00] | Juski: | mine's set to 480x480, the default.. so either it's scaling & it works.. or it's not scaling :-/ |
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| [02:37:00] | cout: | I accidentally bought a low profile pvr 350 card, but I don't have a low profile pci slot. any ideas on how to make it fit? |
| [02:37:00] | Juski: | a quick scan of the ivtv list should reveal all actually |
| [02:37:00] | cout: | s/pvr 350/pvr 150/ |
| [02:37:00] | Juski: | erm... bend the bracket / make another bracket... |
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| [02:38:00] | Juski: | swap it... |
| [02:38:00] | Juski: | use an extender... |
| [02:38:00] | cout: | where can I find an extender? |
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| [02:38:00] | Juski: | I'd go for the swapping option.. even if you have to pay a handling fee it'll work out cheaper than an extender |
| [02:38:00] | defaultro: | GrexFoxx, are you familiar with scalers? |
| [02:39:00] | Juski: | defaultro: good ways to make fools part with their money IMHO |
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| [02:39:00] | defaultro: | huh? |
| [02:39:00] | SqWaw: | GreyFoxx, ready to tackle that problemo? |
| [02:40:00] | Juski: | defaultro: they all make claims to 'improve' the video by processing it.. which they might.. but they can introduce problems of their own |
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| [02:40:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [02:40:00] | defaultro: | have you seen one in action? |
| [02:41:00] | Juski: | defaultro: save your money & do it in software instead |
| [02:41:00] | defaultro: | i'm just interested about it but i won't buy it. They're expensive |
| [02:41:00] | defaultro: | because i have never seen one |
| [02:41:00] | Juski: | I've seen one – wouldn't say it was worth half the price tag |
| [02:41:00] | defaultro: | i want to learn what it is :D |
| [02:42:00] | Juski: | scalers 'intelligently' adapt one video format to another |
| [02:42:00] | defaultro: | it's like line doublers or triplers right |
| [02:42:00] | defaultro: | gotcha |
| [02:42:00] | Juski: | kind of |
| [02:42:00] | defaultro: | so our htpc box can do it right? |
| [02:42:00] | Juski: | and they can do fancy deinterlacing.. actually they're probably really good for that |
| [02:42:00] | defaultro: | ah ok |
| [02:43:00] | Juski: | but whether or not you'll feel it justifies the price is up for debate |
| [02:43:00] | defaultro: | i don't think those device should cost like $1k |
| [02:43:00] | Juski: | nor do I |
| [02:43:00] | defaultro: | if it was like $150-$250, I'll get one |
| [02:43:00] | Juski: | but.. these purveyors of 'emperor's new black boxes' have to make their bucks somehow |
| [02:43:00] | defaultro: | i knew about this when i joined the crt channel in avsforum |
| [02:44:00] | defaultro: | i'll buy a crt pj on July :) |
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| [02:44:00] | ** Juski is waiting for OLED TVs to arrive ** | |
| [02:44:00] | defaultro: | i think i've seen that the other from my officemate |
| [02:45:00] | defaultro: | he sent me the link |
| [02:45:00] | Slurpee`: | oled? |
| [02:45:00] | defaultro: | he saw at CES |
| [02:45:00] | Juski: | organic light emitting diode.. they can be screen-printed onto a transparent surface |
| [02:45:00] | defaultro: | and they said, it's cheaper than plasmas |
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| [02:45:00] | Juski: | cheaper, brighter.. better contrast.. |
| [02:46:00] | defaultro: | no SDE or rainbows |
| [02:46:00] | rjune: | Juski: you would like today's woot |
| [02:46:00] | defaultro: | are those OLED sets slim? |
| [02:46:00] | Juski: | there aren't many OLED sets yet |
| [02:46:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [02:47:00] | Juski: | 61" screen $2500... nice price |
| [02:47:00] | defaultro: | wow |
| [02:47:00] | defaultro: | are they as good as the jurassic crt pjs? |
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| [02:48:00] | Juski: | heheh... that's nifty.. projected image using DLP |
| [02:49:00] | defaultro: | i have seen a crt pj from an ht enthusiast(avsforum member), he near my place. The quality is awesome |
| [02:49:00] | Juski: | some electronics show in Japan I saw on a TV programme last year.. 82" HDTVs |
| [02:49:00] | adante: | kormoc: re 8554 – i dunno, i was experiencing http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/997 |
| [02:49:00] | defaultro: | oh in CES, the largest plasma, 103" |
| [02:49:00] | Juski: | my living room is _just_ big enough to sit far enough back from it |
| [02:50:00] | Juski: | but I wouldn't wanna watch 1.5mbps MPEG2 on it |
| [02:50:00] | defaultro: | http://www.curtpalme.com/CES2006_page1.htm |
| [02:50:00] | defaultro: | I'm thinking of buying the refurbished crt from this guys, Curt Palme |
| [02:50:00] | defaultro: | yeah, there is an ideal tv size based on your sitting position |
| [02:51:00] | Juski: | FFS.. you only need ONE source guys |
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| [02:51:00] | defaultro: | FFS? |
| [02:51:00] | Juski: | for fuck's sake |
| [02:51:00] | defaultro: | oh ok :D |
| [02:51:00] | defaultro: | yeah, curt palme is very famous in avsforum |
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| [02:52:00] | Juski: | sod the number of inputs.. my stereo goes up to 11 |
| [02:52:00] | Beirdo: | why? because it's louder! |
| [02:53:00] | Juski: | which is pretty loud in my house @ 85Wrms per channel (of which there are 6) |
| [02:53:00] | Juski: | little joke from the Yamaha backroom boys methinks |
| [02:53:00] | defaultro: | mine is @110Wrms per channel |
| [02:54:00] | Kelerion: | Juski.. have you released any major updates to your -wide theme since you first released it? |
| [02:54:00] | Juski: | Kelerion: nope |
| [02:54:00] | Juski: | infact.. erm.. none I think |
| [02:54:00] | Juski: | or did I? |
| [02:54:00] | Juski: | ahh yeh I did... |
| [02:54:00] | Juski: | download the archive & read the readme.. it's got a changelog now |
| [02:55:00] | defaultro: | what's the most recent and coolest theme? I changed mine last June. It's been a long time. Screenshots please :) |
| [02:55:00] | Kelerion: | ok.. I don't know if this is just me or not (quite possibly).. but I just noticed today that the preview in recorded programs doesn't seem to be showing the right aspect ration.. I record in 16:9 but they are showing in 4:3.. I tested it in another theme and it's displaying right (16:9) .. is that a theme issue? |
| [02:55:00] | Juski: | "07 Jan 2006 – 1.1 release – added trans-dbackground.png and removed extraneous files" |
| [02:55:00] | defaultro: | I couldn't even remember the theme |
| [02:55:00] | Juski: | defaultro: check out www.juski.co.uk |
| [02:55:00] | defaultro: | it had a grass background |
| [02:55:00] | defaultro: | sure |
| [02:56:00] | defaultro: | DAMN!!!! |
| [02:56:00] | Juski: | I think I changed date/time display thingies aswell |
| [02:56:00] | Kelerion: | defaultro: nice huh? |
| [02:56:00] | defaultro: | that's a cool theme |
| [02:56:00] | defaultro: | u huh |
| [02:56:00] | defaultro: | time to upgrade |
| [02:56:00] | ** defaultro drooling ** | |
| [02:56:00] | Kelerion: | take a bow Juski.. :P |
| [02:56:00] | defaultro: | oh hell yeah |
| [02:57:00] | defaultro: | Praise to Juski |
| [02:57:00] | Juski: | I've been learning how to draw Aqua style buttons.. so the next one is gonna be nicer |
| [02:57:00] | defaultro: | :D |
| [02:57:00] | ** Juski takes a bow ** | |
| [02:57:00] | Juski: | a-thankyou :) |
| [02:57:00] | Kelerion: | lol |
| [02:57:00] | defaultro: | Juski, aqua is easy to do |
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| [02:57:00] | defaultro: | but yes, aqua is cool too |
| [02:57:00] | defaultro: | but the black is more cool |
| [02:57:00] | Juski: | yeh.. considering there are a bunch of photoshop style presets for it ;) |
| [02:58:00] | Kelerion: | so.. Juski.. is that an issue anyone has mentioned? or is it likely just me? |
| [02:58:00] | Juski: | shiiiiiit! time for bed (like 3 hours ago) |
| [02:58:00] | defaultro: | there were nice tutorials back before at www.eyeball-design.com |
| [02:58:00] | defaultro: | LOL |
| [02:58:00] | Kelerion: | okies.. rest well.. lol |
| [02:58:00] | Juski: | Kelerion: just one from a user who didn't have the right font installed |
| [02:58:00] | defaultro: | i can use these theme on 0.18.1 right? |
| [02:58:00] | Juski: | yeh |
| [02:58:00] | defaultro: | cool |
| [02:58:00] | Kelerion: | what font is it supposed to be? |
| [02:59:00] | defaultro: | is it for 16x9 screen? |
| [02:59:00] | Juski: | next release I'll be using JPGs to cut the filesize down – so it stands a chance of making into the themes package |
| [02:59:00] | Juski: | Kelerion: 4:3 is Tahoma & 16:9 is Verdana.. both pretty similar & interchangeable |
| [02:59:00] | Kelerion: | okies |
| [03:00:00] | Juski: | gonna look at making the two themes share their common parts |
| [03:00:00] | defaultro: | so verdana i should use |
| [03:00:00] | Kelerion: | yeah.. got Verdana |
| [03:00:00] | defaultro: | i don't think i have it |
| [03:00:00] | defaultro: | how do I instlal it? |
| [03:00:00] | Juski: | might change em to Vera |
| [03:00:00] | Kelerion: | part of msttcorefonts |
| [03:00:00] | defaultro: | cool |
| [03:01:00] | Cromz: | "Juski – Kelerion: just one from a user who didn't have the right font installed " hmmmmm |
| [03:01:00] | Juski: | Cromz: that's not a theme issue ;) |
| [03:01:00] | Cromz: | lol |
| [03:02:00] | Juski: | yeah.. and someone who was blaming my theme for mythmusic not initialising properly... heh the cheek of it |
| [03:02:00] | Juski: | ;) |
| [03:02:00] | Cromz: | that wasn't me.. |
| [03:02:00] | defaultro: | downloading ........... |
| [03:03:00] | Kelerion: | didn't think it was.. the theme just places a container in the right place I think.. was worth checking though |
| [03:03:00] | Beirdo: | too grey for me, but it looks nice |
| [03:03:00] | Juski: | next one is gonna be.. (shock, horror).. blue coloured (!!!!) |
| [03:03:00] | Juski: | got a few ideas I'm gonna work up |
| [03:04:00] | Juski: | oh, and was talking with theguy who did the Retro theme |
| [03:04:00] | Kelerion: | I have yours in the living room.. and retro in the bedroom.. the wife thinks retro is easier to read so I let her have it |
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| [03:04:00] | Juski: | we're gonna get together on a theme at some point |
| [03:04:00] | ** defaultro just finished extracting. Trying out mythfrontend now :D ** | |
| [03:04:00] | Juski: | yeh I think you can have too much contrast on a TV |
| [03:04:00] | defaultro: | brb |
| [03:05:00] | Kelerion: | she's the only one that watches tv in the bedroom.. so she can have what she wants there.. plus it's on a 14" portable which I hate watching |
| [03:05:00] | Juski: | I like the idea of organic-looking graphics but they don't go well with this app |
| [03:05:00] | Kelerion: | organic? |
| [03:05:00] | Juski: | I've _got_ to do a xmas theme tho |
| [03:06:00] | Juski: | just for fun |
| [03:06:00] | Kelerion: | I'm gonna have a plant theme in my living room??? lol |
| [03:06:00] | Juski: | jees.. another idea.. holly &berries around the menu surrounds.. that'd be cool |
| [03:06:00] | Cromz: | and a halloween one.. |
| [03:06:00] | Juski: | for the xmas theme I mean |
| [03:06:00] | Juski: | aye |
| [03:06:00] | Juski: | and a plugin to change the theme with the season all by itself |
| [03:07:00] | Juski: | BUT |
| [03:07:00] | Cromz: | lol just like gooooooogle |
| [03:07:00] | Juski: | we don't want this to get out of hand.. like winamp skins |
| [03:07:00] | Juski: | I've yet to see a nice winamp skin that looks nice & is usable |
| [03:07:00] | Kelerion: | I played about with themes.. used the Myxer stuff to get it started. but ditched it after a while... wife keeps bugging me to put it back though |
| [03:07:00] | Slurpee`: | juski, i finally have time for my mythtv!!! no school till monday ;/ |
| [03:07:00] | Slurpee`: | and i dont work weekends |
| [03:07:00] | Juski: | well it's bedtime for me, and I'm scheduled this weekend |
| [03:08:00] | Slurpee`: | id rather like to be able to have mythtv running by the end of the weekend |
| [03:08:00] | Juski: | Slurpee` I'm sure you'll manage it |
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| [03:08:00] | Cromz: | night Juski |
| [03:08:00] | Juski: | just remember what I said,, don't panic & don't rush |
| [03:08:00] | Kelerion: | have a good weekend Juski |
| [03:08:00] | Slurpee`: | this isnt the first weekend ive set out to finish myth tv |
| [03:08:00] | Juski: | and read everything four times |
| [03:08:00] | Juski: | ;) |
| [03:08:00] | Juski: | night all |
| [03:08:00] | Slurpee`: | niteo m8 |
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| [03:09:00] | Kelerion: | well.. I found out my fx5600 that I bought cheap the other day is borked.. so I have to take it back tomorrow.. gutted! |
| [03:09:00] | defaultro: | DAMN!!!! It rocks! |
| [03:09:00] | Kelerion: | I get artifacts on the screen during the bios stuff.. both on vga and dvi |
| [03:09:00] | defaultro: | Juski you really did a good job!!! |
| [03:09:00] | defaultro: | It looks like a BMW to me :D |
| [03:10:00] | woloi: | hey |
| [03:10:00] | Kelerion: | but.. when it does get through to myth it all looks ok.. for about 20 mins.. then my pc freezes |
| [03:10:00] | woloi: | 'm having some trouble with SVN MythWeb |
| [03:10:00] | defaultro: | when I start watching and i forward, it still shows the old progress bar |
| [03:10:00] | woloi: | i just installed it, fixed the protocol version bit, but now i'm getting this error and i'm not sure where it's coming from |
| [03:10:00] | woloi: | Fatal error: Call to undefined function posix_getpwuid() in /var/www/localhost/htdocs/mythweb/includes/init.php on line 244 |
| [03:10:00] | defaultro: | where do I change that setting? |
| [03:11:00] | Kelerion: | defaultro: thats the osd in the playback settings |
| [03:11:00] | defaultro: | BAM |
| [03:11:00] | defaultro: | is there an OSD included in Juski's? |
| [03:11:00] | Kelerion: | nope |
| [03:11:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [03:11:00] | defaultro: | what did you choose? |
| [03:11:00] | defaultro: | it doesn't match mine since it's blue |
| [03:11:00] | Kelerion: | I use either the new ilius or the svn default.. depending on what mood I'm in |
| [03:11:00] | Kelerion: | the svn default matches Juski's closest |
| [03:12:00] | defaultro: | i don't think i'm using svn |
| [03:12:00] | defaultro: | i have to check |
| [03:12:00] | defaultro: | Tivo's progress bar is nice too |
| [03:12:00] | Kelerion: | the new ilius one is blue too |
| [03:13:00] | Kelerion: | not isius.. isthmus |
| [03:13:00] | defaultro: | k |
| [03:13:00] | Kelerion: | http://www.aldorf.no/mythtv/ |
| [03:13:00] | defaultro: | looking |
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| [03:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | The new isthmus is nice, but I still prefer http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/osd/newgreyosd14.jpg |
| [03:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | but then I'm biased |
| [03:14:00] | Kelerion: | he did an update a few days ago.. so I switched to that.. it's nice but I think I prefer the svn one |
| [03:14:00] | defaultro: | I like the Paused there on that link. It's small |
| [03:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | defaultro: It's Gray-OSD . You can download it from that same directory |
| [03:15:00] | ** Beirdo considers using doxygen in his new MUD code ** | |
| [03:15:00] | Kelerion: | the main problem I have with greyosd is the position of stuff.. I prefer it all at the bottom of the screen... but it's all personal preference when it comes to themes |
| [03:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kell I prefer it all up higher, and of to the sides since that area tends to not be a "focus" of the action on the screen |
| [03:16:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [03:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | so it's rarely on top of something I'd wanna see |
| [03:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | But the edit bar is on the bottom ;) http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/osd/newgrayosd18.jpg |
| [03:16:00] | Kelerion: | yup.. lol |
| [03:17:00] | Kelerion: | I was just looking through them |
| [03:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | The evolution of the theme hehe |
| [03:17:00] | Kelerion: | http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/osd/newgreyosd-vmware.jpg |
| [03:17:00] | Kelerion: | myth works in a vmware?? |
| [03:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kelerion: Sure it does |
| [03:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | Heck, I even had it running in a vmware OpenBSD session |
| [03:18:00] | Kelerion: | I can't think of a reason it wouldn't.. just never considered it.. lol |
| [03:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use it to make my laptop an impromptu frontend if I happen to be away from a tv but within network range |
| [03:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | plus I use vmware for a lot of dev work since it's handy |
| [03:19:00] | Kelerion: | I always found the sound crap under vmware.. maybe thats why I didn't think of it |
| [03:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well' I've hardly got it plugged into a stereo or anything |
| [03:19:00] | Kelerion: | but yeah.. for impromptu viewing.. it'd work |
| [03:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | but I've never had a problem with audio under vmware |
| [03:20:00] | ** Kelerion gets giddy and goes to dig out his copy of vmware ** | |
| [03:22:00] | Kelerion: | I used to use vmware all the time under linux when I could run a linux desktop.. for the little stuff in windows I needed.. but I can't run a proper linux desktop now (for a bit) so haven't bothered for about since months to installed vmware |
| [03:22:00] | Kelerion: | six months..even |
| [03:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use it all the time for tons of stuff |
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| [03:24:00] | eiggirC: | vmplayer is the shit. You can do everything EXCEPT make new machines |
| [03:24:00] | eiggirC: | and of course you can use machines downloaded from vmware, or machines made by vmware workstation or highter |
| [03:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | eiggirC: Yeah, I love that |
| [03:25:00] | Kelerion: | am waiting for new ATI drivers.. I have an ati r200 board with 3 monitors.. and the ati drivers (which can do dual head on 1 card) can't do triple head on 2 cards |
| [03:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | in fact I've got 10 machines running on this machine with vmplayer right now |
| [03:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | 1 Openbsd, 3 windows (2 2000 and 1 xp) and 6 linux boxes of various distros |
| [03:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | not one person that connects to those machines has noticed that they are anything but seperate boxes :) |
| [03:27:00] | Kelerion: | have never used any for of bsd.. my first intro to *nix was slackware about 10 years ago |
| [03:28:00] | Kelerion: | form..even |
| [03:29:00] | Kelerion: | btw.. has anyone ever used Astaro? and is it any good? |
| [03:29:00] | Kelerion: | have always used smoothwall but this looks like a whole new level |
| [03:34:00] | eiggirC: | GreyFoxx: heh – my machine is so memory-bound that I can't get a single XP machine working reasonably |
| [03:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [03:36:00] | eiggirC: | and my new palm isn't supported by linux yet, so I'm going to make a win98 VM with 64 Mb ram, and sync to that. |
| [03:36:00] | eiggirC: | jesus – vmware workstation is a 96 Mb download |
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| [04:26:00] | defaultro: | anyone still around? |
| [04:26:00] | Agrajag-: | yep |
| [04:27:00] | defaultro: | hi Agrajag |
| [04:27:00] | Agrajag-: | g'day |
| [04:27:00] | defaultro: | i just installed the new theme written by Juski |
| [04:27:00] | defaultro: | it's nice but i see some performance degradation |
| [04:27:00] | defaultro: | it only happens when I select Watch Recordings |
| [04:28:00] | defaultro: | It takes like 10 seconds before it shows all the program listing |
| [04:28:00] | Agrajag-: | and you only get it with that particular theme? |
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| [04:28:00] | defaultro: | i didnt have any issues with the old themes before |
| [04:29:00] | defaultro: | my last theme was nuvola as of 30 mins ago |
| [04:29:00] | Agrajag-: | try switching to make sure it's a theme issue |
| [04:29:00] | Agrajag-: | have you had any recordings start or finish since? |
| [04:29:00] | defaultro: | yep |
| [04:30:00] | defaultro: | there is now issue when playing a movie |
| [04:30:00] | defaultro: | the issue is when displaying the menus |
| [04:30:00] | defaultro: | i'm going to switch back to Nuvola. brb |
| [04:30:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah, if i have a screwed recording my watch recordings screen freezes up when it is selected (for about 10 seconds) |
| [04:32:00] | defaultro: | done. I went back to watch recordings and it showed the recorded programs listing in 1 sec |
| [04:33:00] | Agrajag-: | hmm weird. no idea then |
| [04:33:00] | Beirdo: | yay, doxygen |
| [04:33:00] | defaultro: | doxygen? |
| [04:33:00] | Agrajag-: | does the backend or frontend output anything while it's frozen up? |
| [04:33:00] | defaultro: | i didn't check |
| [04:33:00] | defaultro: | i wont bother for now |
| [04:33:00] | defaultro: | i'll do it next week since I will be doing a lot of upgrades |
| [04:34:00] | defaultro: | I'm jumping from 2.6.11 to 2.6.15 |
| [04:34:00] | defaultro: | also upgrading nvidia driver |
| [04:34:00] | defaultro: | thinking of upgrading to the latest mythtv svn. |
| [04:34:00] | defaultro: | because am happy with the version i have installed |
| [04:35:00] | defaultro: | but don't know if i am missing a lot. My version was as of last August I guess |
| [04:35:00] | defaultro: | should I bother upgrading to latest svn? |
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| [04:35:00] | Beirdo: | http://www2.beirdo.ca/doxygen/havokmud/ |
| [04:35:00] | Beirdo: | w00t! |
| [04:36:00] | Beirdo: | of course, now I need to get the code working too ;) |
| [04:36:00] | Beirdo: | and then document it properly too |
| [04:36:00] | Flimzy: | Is there anyway to capture video streams from a DCT6200 *without* using myth's builtin support? |
| [04:37:00] | defaultro: | firewire |
| [04:38:00] | Flimzy: | Yes, over firewire |
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| [04:38:00] | Flimzy: | I've thus far been unable to find any DV utilities that will use the 6200 |
| [04:40:00] | hpAuto: | finally the menus make half sense |
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| [04:43:00] | mekz: | is there a 0.19? |
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| [04:44:00] | kormoc: | mekz, there is a svn version that is rapidly turning into .19 |
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| [04:45:00] | mekz: | anywhere i can go see what's new in .19? |
| [04:46:00] | kormoc: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/milestone/0.19 |
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| [04:47:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | Beirdo, you still here? |
| [04:47:00] | Beirdo: | yep |
| [04:47:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | I replied in that ticket, does the patch I put in the ticket work? If I run wget manually on the command line and put the url in single quotes it works fine. |
| [04:47:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | wget -nd 'http://tvlistings2.zap2it.com/tms_network_log . . . ;family.jpg' |
| [04:48:00] | Beirdo: | the problem is... |
| [04:48:00] | Beirdo: | the apache on the other end sees the & and doesn't return the file |
| [04:48:00] | Beirdo: | as & is a special char in URLs |
| [04:48:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | yes it does, I just downloaded it. |
| [04:48:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | try the wget I posted |
| [04:48:00] | Beirdo: | how odd |
| [04:48:00] | Beirdo: | it didn't for me |
| [04:48:00] | Chutt: | works fine here as well. |
| [04:48:00] | Beirdo: | let me try again |
| [04:48:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | the progblem is the & is being interpted by the shell |
| [04:49:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | that's why I asked the poster to try my patch which encloses the url in single quotes. |
| [04:49:00] | Beirdo: | funny, works now :) |
| [04:49:00] | mekz: | is anyone a lirc expert here? |
| [04:49:00] | Beirdo: | stupid me, I think I put " the other time |
| [04:49:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | is anyone a lirc expert? |
| [04:49:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | yeah, singles matter. :) |
| [04:49:00] | Beirdo: | god, today sucked :) |
| [04:49:00] | Beirdo: | sorry, dude |
| [04:49:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [04:50:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | ok, I'm going to commit that patch, it seems to fix it. |
| [04:50:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | no biggie, just making sure we were talking about the same thing. :) |
| [04:52:00] | Beirdo: | doxygen is kinda cool :) |
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| [04:54:00] | d3ity: | whats up. |
| [04:54:00] | d3ity: | got a wee bitty problem |
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| [04:54:00] | d3ity: | i've got intermittent static on one of my channels |
| [04:54:00] | kormoc: | right now? there's a large, white ceiling things above me. |
| [04:54:00] | Beirdo: | my blood pressure's a bit up |
| [04:54:00] | d3ity: | how might i rectify this situation |
| [04:55:00] | kormoc: | d3ity, get a better signal to the card? |
| [04:55:00] | d3ity: | Beirdo, funny, my blood-alcohol content is slightly elevated |
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| [04:55:00] | mekz: | does anyone use the MCE transceiver? |
| [04:55:00] | d3ity: | kormoc, its only this friggin channel |
| [04:56:00] | d3ity: | i've got a few other channels that dont cooperate (ie-random stupidity of static and vertical hold issues) |
| [04:56:00] | d3ity: | all of them do show the same horizontal lines though |
| [04:56:00] | sosumi: | call the cable guy? |
| [04:56:00] | kormoc: | d3ity, I have a certain channel that if I move my cell phone too close to the card, it gets a bunch of static |
| [04:57:00] | d3ity: | kormoc, heh, dude i've got so many electronic devices in close proximity |
| [04:58:00] | d3ity: | two xboxes...a wrt54g... |
| [04:58:00] | d3ity: | monitor, laptop...etc |
| [04:58:00] | d3ity: | kormoc, wow you're good, turned out it was my cold cathode setup doing it |
| [04:59:00] | d3ity: | heh |
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| [05:06:00] | d3ity: | but i still have the vertical hold problem. |
| [05:06:00] | d3ity: | and the stupid little horizontal lines |
| [05:06:00] | kormoc: | could be the wire quality |
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| [05:06:00] | kormoc: | or interference from something else |
| [05:06:00] | kormoc: | or just the cable connection from the wall |
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| [05:09:00] | EnterUserName: | cd /joni #mythtv-suers |
| [05:09:00] | EnterUserName: | hey |
| [05:09:00] | EnterUserName: | i think i found the reason why the moeg errors |
| [05:09:00] | EnterUserName: | tis cuz imusign a resolutionf rom 544x480 |
| [05:09:00] | EnterUserName: | when i9 use nomal it works. |
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| [05:15:00] | EricL: | Is the program guide that gets downloaded from Zap2It.com stored in the program table of the MySQL DB? |
| [05:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [05:18:00] | EricL: | Ok, so my listings are messed up even though they are configured correctly from Zap2It. If I remove all the rows in that table and then run mythfilldatabase, it will refill everything (hopefully correctly). |
| [05:19:00] | EricL: | Messed up in the sense that what is in the program guide isn't actually whats playing. |
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| [05:25:00] | d3ity: | hey guys |
| [05:25:00] | d3ity: | does mythfrontend need to be running in order to record a show? |
| [05:26:00] | d3ity: | or just mythbackend? |
| [05:26:00] | EricL: | Nope, just mythbackend. |
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| [05:30:00] | d3ity: | EricL, awesome |
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| [05:49:00] | Subzero-AK: | Can anyone help me fix this error in nuvexport? DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Unknown column 'basename' in 'field list' at /usr/local/share/nuvexport/mythtv/recordings.pm line 67. |
| [05:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | Sounds like you are using a new version nof nuvexport with an older version of myth |
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| [05:51:00] | Subzero-AK: | it's a recent debian upgrade from the marrilatt repository |
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| [05:53:00] | fman2: | hey all |
| [05:53:00] | fman2: | I've got most things working on MythTV now |
| [05:53:00] | fman2: | except live tv |
| [05:53:00] | fman2: | when I select live tv nothing happens |
| [05:54:00] | fman2: | video etc all works as I can play /dev/video directly through mplayer |
| [05:54:00] | fman2: | so, thinking there is somthing wrong with the xml setup and the associated action TV_WATCH_LIVE |
| [05:54:00] | fman2: | any ideas? |
| [05:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | Subzero-AK: the basename field was added into SVN in August or September I think, so the version of nuvexport you are running requires just as new a myth |
| [05:55:00] | kormoc: | fman2, look at the output from mythbackend? |
| [05:56:00] | Subzero-AK: | Thanks GreyFoxx, I'll look into it |
| [05:57:00] | fman2: | nothing appears in /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log |
| [05:57:00] | kormoc: | fman2, what's the frontend spit out? |
| [05:58:00] | fman2: | nothing there either |
| [05:58:00] | fman2: | I'm running the frontend from a shell and no messages |
| [05:58:00] | fman2: | like it aint doing anything |
| [05:58:00] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [05:58:00] | kormoc: | and if you just run mythtv does it work? |
| [05:59:00] | fman2: | ? |
| [05:59:00] | fman2: | nope |
| [05:59:00] | kormoc: | what does that spit out? |
| [05:59:00] | |Slurpee|: | kormoc !! |
| [05:59:00] | |Slurpee|: | what sup |
| [06:00:00] | kormoc: | |Slurpee|, hihi, not much, yourself? |
| [06:00:00] | fman2: | nothing |
| [06:00:00] | kormoc: | fman2, it should spit out something no matter what... |
| [06:00:00] | kormoc: | fman2, what distro/myth version? |
| [06:00:00] | fman2: | knopp |
| [06:01:00] | fman2: | knoppmyth |
| [06:01:00] | |Slurpee|: | FINALLY have time to work on my mythtv, no class till monday |
| [06:01:00] | |Slurpee|: | can u help me |
| [06:01:00] | |Slurpee|: | vid card still doesnt work |
| [06:01:00] | kormoc: | |Slurpee|, ooh? |
| [06:02:00] | kormoc: | fman2, there's something serriously screwed with your install if nothing is outputting anything |
| [06:02:00] | fman2: | :) |
| [06:02:00] | Flimzy: | I think it's time I turn off the nvidia logo |
| [06:05:00] | |Slurpee|: | im pretty sure i gota reformat |
| [06:07:00] | kormoc: | ooh? |
| [06:07:00] | |Slurpee|: | u wana ssh n check it out ? |
| [06:08:00] | kormoc: | uhh, it's not really a good idea to let people do that :P |
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| [06:10:00] | nuonguy: | I've been watching the Dakar Rally |
| [06:10:00] | nuonguy: | Anyone know what music they're playing? |
| [06:10:00] | nuonguy: | It's awesome |
| [06:14:00] | fman2: | so, when I select watch tv from the main menu, what actions take place internally? |
| [06:23:00] | kormoc: | fman2, it runs mythtv |
| [06:23:00] | fman2: | hmm |
| [06:24:00] | fman2: | there is a mythtv binary ? |
| [06:24:00] | kormoc: | yes |
| [06:24:00] | fman2: | where does it hide? |
| [06:24:00] | kormoc: | /usr/bin/mythtv on my box |
| [06:24:00] | fman2: | yep, same on mine |
| [06:24:00] | fman2: | where is that action configured |
| [06:25:00] | kormoc: | mythfrontend likely |
| [06:25:00] | fman2: | not burried in a xml config file? |
| [06:25:00] | kormoc: | why would it be? |
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| [06:26:00] | fman2: | because devs like to make things as hard as possible ? |
| [06:26:00] | fman2: | :) |
| [06:26:00] | kormoc: | no, it's not burried anywhere, the frontend just has something like, if option == live tv, run mythtv |
| [06:27:00] | fman2: | so, configured under the gui? |
| [06:27:00] | kormoc: | it's not configured, it's hardcoded in |
| [06:28:00] | fman2: | thats what I'm talking about |
| [06:28:00] | fman2: | so, not configurable then |
| [06:28:00] | fman2: | I can run /usr/bin/mythtv and is gives me a blank screen then craps out |
| [06:28:00] | fman2: | will get the error message shortly |
| [06:29:00] | Chutt: | it doesn't run the mythtv binary. |
| [06:29:00] | kormoc: | Chutt, ooh? |
| [06:29:00] | Chutt: | it never has. |
| [06:29:00] | kormoc: | Chutt, I was under the impression is forked it off |
| [06:30:00] | kormoc: | Chutt, so what's the purpose of having a seperate mythtv binary? |
| [06:30:00] | fman2: | how does I work then? |
| [06:30:00] | Chutt: | testing |
| [06:30:00] | Chutt: | fman2, read the code if you want to know how it works. |
| [06:31:00] | Chutt: | obviously, it's slightly complicated. |
| [06:31:00] | fman2: | yes |
| [06:31:00] | fman2: | guessed that |
| [06:31:00] | fman2: | :) |
| [06:32:00] | kormoc: | Chutt, ahh, fair nuff. |
| [06:33:00] | fman2: | so I'm screwed then |
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| [06:34:00] | defaultro: | hi kormoc, what's up? |
| [06:34:00] | kormoc: | hihi Mr. defaultro, not too much, what's up with you? |
| [06:34:00] | kormoc: | fman2, what's the error you get? |
| [06:35:00] | defaultro: | just browsing :) |
| [06:35:00] | defaultro: | reading some threads regarding home theater construction :) |
| [06:40:00] | kormoc: | niceness |
| [06:42:00] | fman2: | kormac – where can I dump the output |
| [06:42:00] | defaultro: | anyone here doing QAM256 capture? |
| [06:44:00] | kormoc: | fman2, pastebin.ca |
| [06:44:00] | fman2: | main error seems to be |
| [06:44:00] | fman2: | failed to get pginfo |
| [06:45:00] | fman2: | 2006-01–13 19:41:15.996 EntryToProgram(0@Thu Jan 1 12:00:00 1970) failed to get pginfo |
| [06:46:00] | fman2: | http://pastebin.ca/36663 |
| [06:46:00] | Chutt: | uh |
| [06:47:00] | Chutt: | your clock is _way_ off. |
| [06:47:00] | fman2: | you think |
| [06:47:00] | fman2: | root@mythtv:~# date |
| [06:47:00] | fman2: | Fri Jan 13 19:47:07 NZDT 2006 |
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| [06:47:00] | Chutt: | there's most likely an error on the backend. |
| [06:48:00] | fman2: | same machine |
| [06:48:00] | Chutt: | uh |
| [06:48:00] | Chutt: | from the backend process |
| [06:48:00] | defaultro: | hey guys, i think it's time to fix my font :) Which part should fix the font that gets displayed when we view the info of a program that we are watching? one line overlaps the second line |
| [06:48:00] | Chutt: | it doesn't matter where the machine is. |
| [06:50:00] | defaultro: | take a look at the third screenshot(but that's not the theme I have). http://www.aldorf.no/mythtv/ The paragraph on the picture is properly displayed, while on mine, nope |
| [06:52:00] | Flimzy: | yum |
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| [06:53:00] | Flimzy: | got my DCT6208 HD receiver workin' |
| [06:53:00] | Flimzy: | now to play with getting it to work nicely with myth |
| [06:53:00] | defaultro: | congrats |
| [06:53:00] | defaultro: | i just ordered a fusion hdtv lite card |
| [06:54:00] | Flimzy: | that much must wait until tomorrrow |
| [06:54:00] | Flimzy: | heh |
| [06:55:00] | Flimzy: | I don't think I have any use for an HDTV card |
| [06:56:00] | defaultro: | don't worry if you don't have hd set |
| [06:56:00] | Flimzy: | I have a 42" LCD HD set |
| [06:56:00] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [06:56:00] | defaultro: | maybe you have a set top box |
| [06:56:00] | defaultro: | that should be enough |
| [06:56:00] | Flimzy: | Yeah... I can get them practically free from my employer |
| [06:56:00] | fman2: | chutt – so any ideas |
| [06:56:00] | defaultro: | :D |
| [06:56:00] | fman2: | as the backend is on the same machine |
| [06:57:00] | Flimzy: | so it makes more sense for me to use firewire from the HD box for HD content |
| [06:57:00] | fman2: | it should have the same time? |
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| [06:57:00] | Flimzy: | than to spend actual money on an HD card |
| [06:57:00] | Flimzy: | :P |
| [06:57:00] | kormoc: | fman2, ... |
| [06:57:00] | defaultro: | flimzy, it's the same |
| [06:57:00] | Chutt: | i said there should be an error message from the backend |
| [06:57:00] | kormoc: | fman2, what's the error the backend spits out. |
| [06:57:00] | fman2: | ah |
| [06:57:00] | defaultro: | 5C is employed in firewire |
| [06:57:00] | fman2: | ok |
| [06:57:00] | Chutt: | you still haven't managed to show my one |
| [06:57:00] | fman2: | hang on |
| [06:57:00] | Chutt: | 'me', too. |
| [06:57:00] | fman2: | sorry, had a screaming baby to deal with |
| [06:57:00] | Flimzy: | defaultro: Of course it is. |
| [06:57:00] | Flimzy: | defaultro: But not on any channels that you can get off-air |
| [06:57:00] | defaultro: | you can only capture sdtv |
| [06:57:00] | Flimzy: | defaultro: I'm capturing HD |
| [06:57:00] | fman2: | 006-01–13 19:41:15.977 External Tuning program exited with no error |
| [06:57:00] | fman2: | 2006-01–13 19:41:15.985 CreateLiveTVRingBuffer() failed |
| [06:57:00] | fman2: | 2006-01–13 19:41:15.991 TVRec(1): Changing from WatchingLiveTV to None |
| [06:58:00] | defaultro: | how do you capture hd? |
| [06:58:00] | defaultro: | via? |
| [06:58:00] | Flimzy: | defaultro: I can capture any non-5C channels over firewire. |
| [06:58:00] | defaultro: | that's what i was saying |
| [06:58:00] | Flimzy: | For the rest, I'll use my PVR-500 |
| [06:58:00] | Flimzy: | defaultro: You told me I couldn't capture HD over firewire. But I can. |
| [06:58:00] | defaultro: | you can capture local Hd |
| [06:59:00] | defaultro: | i mentioned 5c |
| [06:59:00] | Flimzy: | You can only capture local HD with a tuner card, too |
| [06:59:00] | defaultro: | those like discovery hd |
| [06:59:00] | defaultro: | that's true |
| [06:59:00] | Flimzy: | and actually, there are a couple non-local channels in HD that aren't 5C |
| [06:59:00] | Flimzy: | the local PBS station has an extra HD channel over cable |
| [06:59:00] | defaultro: | that's what i heard and that's what I want to find out with qam256 :) |
| [06:59:00] | Flimzy: | and Discovery |
| [06:59:00] | Chutt: | fman2, there should be an error before that. |
| [06:59:00] | Flimzy: | Eventually, I may hack up a DCT2000 to do HD capturing |
| [06:59:00] | defaultro: | i'm hoping that i will be able to capture those channels that are non-local hd |
| [06:59:00] | kormoc: | I thought the reason for firewire was to get the signal after it's decrypted by the cable box |
| [07:00:00] | defaultro: | nope |
| [07:00:00] | Flimzy: | but I don't think there are Linux drivers for that... so I'd hafta set up an XP machine to work between the 2000 and the myth box |
| [07:00:00] | Flimzy: | kormoc: Unfortunately, it's not that nice :/ |
| [07:00:00] | defaultro: | kormoc, some areas sends the signal encryped |
| [07:00:00] | fman2: | http://pastebin.ca/36665 |
| [07:00:00] | defaultro: | glad that my objective for my fusion card lite is not really hd, but just for qam capture |
| [07:01:00] | defaultro: | so i don't have high expectations |
| [07:01:00] | Flimzy: | hehe |
| [07:01:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [07:01:00] | Chutt: | why are you running the backend as a service, instead of directly? |
| [07:01:00] | Chutt: | you're trying to get things working, no? |
| [07:01:00] | fman2: | ? |
| [07:02:00] | fman2: | it starts a boottime? |
| [07:02:00] | Chutt: | that's not even the complete log |
| [07:02:00] | Chutt: | so? |
| [07:02:00] | Chutt: | stop it and run the thing manually. |
| [07:02:00] | fman2: | ok, thats all that I'm seeing in /var/log/mythtv/ |
| [07:02:00] | fman2: | ok |
| [07:02:00] | defaultro: | ok Flimzy,I'm hungry. Got to find some food first |
| [07:02:00] | defaultro: | It's 1am too, LOL |
| [07:02:00] | Chutt: | right now, you're wasting my time. |
| [07:03:00] | fman2: | sorry |
| [07:03:00] | defaultro: | hi Chutt, how are you? Long time |
| [07:03:00] | Chutt: | that isn't even close to current svn, either. |
| [07:03:00] | fman2: | it is running directly now |
| [07:03:00] | fman2: | I'll try again |
| [07:04:00] | defaultro: | question before I eat. How stable is the latest svn? |
| [07:04:00] | Chutt: | stable enough. |
| [07:04:00] | defaultro: | i'm planning to upgrade everything next week, kernel 2.6.15, latest nvidia, new fusion card, and hopefully mythtv |
| [07:05:00] | fman2: | chutt – sorry about the stupidity |
| [07:05:00] | fman2: | so, I'm running mythbackend directly |
| [07:06:00] | fman2: | and the output is the same, do I need to crank up the debug level at all |
| [07:06:00] | Chutt: | don't bother. |
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| [07:06:00] | Chutt: | i'm not supporting svn code from november. |
| [07:08:00] | defaultro: | Chutt, my last update was back in July or August. Then been very with other things. I forgot where to find the wiki for setting up mythtv. Articles that includes the svn command. Do you have a link please? |
| [07:08:00] | Chutt: | cvs.mythtv.org. |
| [07:08:00] | defaultro: | thanks |
| [07:08:00] | defaultro: | that's a new one :) |
| [07:08:00] | Chutt: | fman2, where did you manage to get a checkout from before november 15th? |
| [07:08:00] | defaultro: | the first 3 rows are the bleeding edge right? I should get the latter 3 |
| [07:09:00] | fman2: | cvs |
| [07:09:00] | Chutt: | and you honestly thought you could get support for something that old? |
| [07:09:00] | fman2: | so I'll update then |
| [07:10:00] | Chutt: | and didn't think to mention when the checkout was from? |
| [07:10:00] | fman2: | your saying november 15th is old? |
| [07:10:00] | ** defaultro thinks that fman2's knees are shaking. ** | |
| [07:10:00] | Chutt: | uh, yes? |
| [07:10:00] | Chutt: | since that was right in the middle of the livetv rewrite? |
| [07:10:00] | defaultro: | Chutt, don't scare him :D |
| [07:10:00] | fman2: | ok, so I'll rebuild it then |
| [07:10:00] | fman2: | defaultro – getting used to it |
| [07:10:00] | fman2: | seems to be the way in irc land |
| [07:11:00] | defaultro: | yep |
| [07:11:00] | kormoc: | fman2, keep in mind, myth is a really active project, usually there's a bunch of patches each day. |
| [07:11:00] | fman2: | I know |
| [07:11:00] | fman2: | sorry for being a dick |
| [07:11:00] | fman2: | we live and learn |
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| [07:24:00] | kormoc: | welp, night all |
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| [07:51:00] | adante: | good ol' myth, it's life on the edge |
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| [08:01:00] | winga: | can anyone give me a hint as to why my epia motherboard won't boot the knoppmyth disc or the already installed knoppmyth? it hangs after the hardware detection |
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| [08:01:00] | winga: | like a hard hang, the curser stops blinking |
| [08:13:00] | cesman: | if it won't boot, how did you get it installed? |
| [08:13:00] | confusi0n: | ~sup |
| [08:18:00] | adante: | Agrajag-: you around? |
| [08:18:00] | adante: | or any aussies |
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| [08:54:00] | Agrajag-: | adante: yeah |
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| [09:36:00] | adante: | sorry |
| [09:36:00] | adante: | Agrajag-: was wondering if you ever had problems with ch7 |
| [09:37:00] | adante: | it seems to be the only station that craps up at the moment |
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| [09:46:00] | FriedBob: | adante: I can't get chan 7 in on my system either, even in Windows |
| [09:52:00] | Agrajag-: | hmm nope no problem with 7 digital for me |
| [09:52:00] | FriedBob: | We just have basic cable here, it comes w/ the apartment |
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| [09:53:00] | FriedBob: | Not sure if it is digitl or not |
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| [09:55:00] | FriedBob: | Is the Hauppauge WinTV 401 TV/FM Tuner supported? It's a Conextant CX2388? chipset I think. I haven't been able to get my remote or card working so far, but I dunno if I have done something wrong or missed some steps. Gentoo, 2005.1 for the distro, if that matters. |
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| [10:15:00] | galorin: | I finally got my nova-t card to tune in, but I've got no audio from the stream. I'm using kubuntu with a stock kernel. |
| [10:15:00] | dasOp: | that should be the bttv driver, friedbob |
| [10:16:00] | adante: | blegh |
| [10:17:00] | adante: | so hard to iron out reception problems with the svn build collapsing around me |
| [10:18:00] | dasOp: | that sounds like a reason to use 18.1 first :) |
| [10:28:00] | FriedBob: | dasOp: Hmm, is that a driver that comes w/ the kernel, or has to be added in seperate? |
| [10:42:00] | FriedBob: | Nevermind, I found it |
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| [10:45:00] | dasOp: | goodie |
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| [11:01:00] | Syruss: | what's the most suitable distro for mythtv? |
| [11:01:00] | Syruss: | in your oppinion |
| [11:03:00] | Cardoe: | whatever you're the most comfortable with |
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| [11:05:00] | Syruss: | I have a fair bit of experience with debian, ubuntu, gentoo, fedora and redhat |
| [11:05:00] | Syruss: | bah, I'll see how it goes on debs on this VM and go from there. |
| [11:06:00] | Cardoe: | I personally like Gentoo |
| [11:06:00] | Merlin83b: | A few of the developers seem to use debian |
| [11:06:00] | Cardoe: | but you'll be in for a lot of compiling |
| [11:06:00] | Merlin83b: | There are lots of fedora guides out there. |
| [11:06:00] | Merlin83b: | FC4 on 64 bit has issues apparently. |
| [11:07:00] | Syruss: | hmm |
| [11:07:00] | Syruss: | what about the kernel, 2.6 is best right? |
| [11:07:00] | Merlin83b: | Definitely. |
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| [11:13:00] | confusi0n: | anyone running a dbox? |
| [11:16:00] | Merlin83b: | You are. |
| [11:17:00] | confusi0n: | :/ |
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| [11:18:00] | Syruss: | dbox? |
| [11:18:00] | Syruss: | debian? |
| [11:18:00] | Cardoe: | it's a Nokia set top device. |
| [11:19:00] | stuarta: | debian or it's close cousin ubuntu |
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| [11:21:00] | juski: | morning |
| [11:21:00] | stuarta: | morning |
| [11:21:00] | Merlin83b: | Hi juski. |
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| [11:22:00] | juski: | upgraded my backend last night.. added the PVR150 card & about 200 channels |
| [11:24:00] | juski: | ..and about 200 xmltv IDs.. yeesh |
| [11:25:00] | confusi0n: | it all working? |
| [11:25:00] | Merlin83b: | Heh. |
| [11:25:00] | juski: | yep – all seems okay |
| [11:25:00] | juski: | just need icons for the channels now |
| [11:25:00] | Merlin83b: | So I compiled the SVN version overnight. |
| [11:25:00] | Merlin83b: | I need mythplugins too, right? |
| [11:26:00] | juski: | that lyngsat grabber is all well & good, but a lot of the icons are out of date (old) |
| [11:26:00] | juski: | yeh Merlin83b: you'll need mythplugins |
| [11:26:00] | Merlin83b: | It errors when I say make :-( |
| [11:26:00] | juski: | and probably mythtvthemes |
| [11:26:00] | Merlin83b: | I grabbed all 3. |
| [11:27:00] | Merlin83b: | mythtv is compiled but mythplugins errors right after telling it to build. |
| [11:27:00] | Cardoe: | you have to build the plugins you want |
| [11:27:00] | juski: | I'll put money on erm.... |
| [11:27:00] | Cardoe: | cd into each directory |
| [11:27:00] | Merlin83b: | http://pastebin.com/503779 |
| [11:27:00] | juski: | or just ./configure --enable-all --disbale (stuff you don't want build) |
| [11:27:00] | Merlin83b: | It kind of does that already, do I really need to do it manually? |
| [11:28:00] | Merlin83b: | The defaults looked okay, so I just did ./configure --prefix=/usr |
| [11:28:00] | Merlin83b: | qmake mythplugins.pro |
| [11:28:00] | Merlin83b: | make |
| [11:28:00] | juski: | you might be missing a library or two (or ten) |
| [11:28:00] | Merlin83b: | And it did the above. |
| [11:28:00] | Merlin83b: | Looking at the error, it seems to be a myth specific thing. |
| [11:28:00] | Merlin83b: | Possibly fixed by make install on the mythtv part? |
| [11:29:00] | juski: | looks like you need KDE libs |
| [11:29:00] | Merlin83b: | For FRONTEND_EXIT_* stuff? |
| [11:29:00] | Merlin83b: | Sounds like a myth thing to me? |
| [11:30:00] | juski: | I'd just disable mythbrowser.. web on a TV is no fun anyway |
| [11:30:00] | stuarta: | merlin83b: you have to install mythtv before building the plugins |
| [11:30:00] | Merlin83b: | Thanks stuarta, that's what I thought. |
| [11:30:00] | dasOp: | most if not all plugins link to the mythtv libs |
| [11:30:00] | Merlin83b: | Yeah juski, I have no need for mythbrowser or a bunch of the others. |
| [11:30:00] | juski: | aha that'd do it |
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| [11:31:00] | Merlin83b: | <Merlin83b> Possibly fixed by make install on the mythtv part |
| [11:31:00] | Merlin83b: | :-) |
| [11:31:00] | juski: | just do ./configure --disable-mythbrowser (etc) then |
| [11:31:00] | Merlin83b: | I'll play with that over the weekend. |
| [11:32:00] | juski: | I'd settle for a better music plugin & a radio plugin rather than have a browser |
| [11:32:00] | Merlin83b: | I don't use music (yet) |
| [11:32:00] | juski: | I know.. you guys look forward to seeing my patch ;) |
| [11:32:00] | dasOp: | definitely! :P |
| [11:33:00] | juski: | if I start now, I might get something out by the time 1.0 is released |
| [11:33:00] | Merlin83b: | Heh. |
| [11:33:00] | confusi0n: | when was the last time mythmusic worked? |
| [11:33:00] | confusi0n: | doesn't seem to compile onw |
| [11:33:00] | juski: | mythmusic has worked for ages |
| [11:34:00] | juski: | and the SVN version is the best it's ever been |
| [11:34:00] | dasOp: | confusi0n: if it doesnt, you're missing a required lib |
| [11:34:00] | confusi0n: | ah |
| [11:34:00] | confusi0n: | well its all well and useless yet anyway |
| [11:34:00] | Merlin83b: | If it starts working I'll be all over using it :-) |
| [11:34:00] | confusi0n: | i need a PVR card coz i'll be fscked if i ever get this dbox source working |
| [11:34:00] | juski: | infact mythmusic & DVB radio are making me thnk about building it for my production system |
| [11:35:00] | Merlin83b: | confusi0n: Please buy one. |
| [11:35:00] | confusi0n: | whats dvb radio? |
| [11:35:00] | dasOp: | each dir in mythplugins contains a readme explaining the requirements |
| [11:35:00] | confusi0n: | Merlin83b: so i shut up? |
| [11:35:00] | dasOp: | radio via dvb |
| [11:35:00] | Merlin83b: | Basically, yeah :-) |
| [11:35:00] | confusi0n: | kewl |
| [11:35:00] | confusi0n: | Merlin83b: lol :P |
| [11:35:00] | juski: | confusi0n: saw your ML posts about it.. did you catch the follow-ups? |
| [11:35:00] | confusi0n: | juski: yeah, ive not tried the guys patch yet though |
| [11:36:00] | confusi0n: | either way its difficult to get working anyway |
| [11:36:00] | juski: | ffs.. you need to try it man – could make it a lot better |
| [11:36:00] | juski: | difficult to get working? compared to what? ;) |
| [11:36:00] | confusi0n: | lol |
| [11:37:00] | confusi0n: | well, from what dbox images i've used either they all crash after a few minutes (nhttp problem), or nhttp is fine but the streams dont start properly |
| [11:37:00] | confusi0n: | i have a bit of a stupid question |
| [11:37:00] | confusi0n: | how would i apply a patch like the one th guy gave me jusk? |
| [11:37:00] | juski: | download the patch |
| [11:37:00] | confusi0n: | is it just 'patch -p0 < patch.patch'? |
| [11:37:00] | juski: | pretty much |
| [11:38:00] | confusi0n: | hmm, that didn't seem to do much |
| [11:38:00] | juski: | depends on what the 1st line of the patch is |
| [11:38:00] | juski: | where did you put it? |
| [11:38:00] | juski: | prolly needs to go in the root of the mythtv source directory |
| [11:38:00] | confusi0n: | the same dir as dbox2recorder.cpp |
| [11:39:00] | confusi0n: | ill try that then |
| [11:39:00] | juski: | nah... |
| [11:39:00] | confusi0n: | missing header for unified diff at line 1 of patch |
| [11:39:00] | confusi0n: | can't find file to patch at input line 1 |
| [11:39:00] | confusi0n: | Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option? |
| [11:39:00] | confusi0n: | File to patch: |
| [11:39:00] | confusi0n: | thats when its in mythtv's root |
| [11:39:00] | juski: | what's the patch look like? |
| [11:40:00] | juski: | maybe it needs to be where dbox2recorder.cpp lives then |
| [11:40:00] | confusi0n: | tried that too, still asks for the filename, so i gave it the filename but then it complained about an unexpected EOF |
| [11:40:00] | juski: | pop t' patch into a pastebin |
| [11:41:00] | juski: | actually no I'll take a look on the ML archive |
| [11:41:00] | confusi0n: | k |
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| [11:44:00] | juski: | you could probably apply that by hand, the size it is |
| [11:45:00] | confusi0n: | yeah |
| [11:45:00] | confusi0n: | i might have a go tonight or something |
| [11:45:00] | confusi0n: | im losing motivation |
| [11:45:00] | juski: | just adding a usleep(100) before the break |
| [11:46:00] | ** confusi0n nods ** | |
| [11:46:00] | juski: | well, there's no point messing with it any further, I don't think |
| [11:47:00] | confusi0n: | ill add that |
| [11:47:00] | confusi0n: | and try it |
| [11:47:00] | confusi0n: | if that still breaks it |
| [11:47:00] | confusi0n: | ill find something new to play with until i can afford a dvb card ;) |
| [11:47:00] | Merlin83b: | Cheaper than a PVR card ;-) |
| [11:48:00] | juski: | well if you buy a DVB-C card, don't come in here asking for help with it ;) |
| [11:49:00] | confusi0n: | oh yeah, sorry |
| [11:49:00] | confusi0n: | i meant a pvr |
| [11:49:00] | confusi0n: | like your setup |
| [11:50:00] | znoG: | what exactly is the difference between a twinhan card and, say, a BT878 based card? is "twinhan" just the chipset type? |
| [11:50:00] | juski: | now there's an question |
| [11:50:00] | juski: | depends what the twinhan card is |
| [11:50:00] | juski: | BT878 is an old fashioned frame-grabber card with questionable video quality |
| [11:51:00] | ** znoG nods ** | |
| [11:51:00] | juski: | twinhan make a few different kinds of cards.. DVB cards, analogue tuners... dual tuners... |
| [11:51:00] | znoG: | yep, as far as I've read' there's DVB-C, DVB-T, etc |
| [11:51:00] | znoG: | I've no idea what the C or T stand for |
| [11:51:00] | juski: | DVB-Cable |
| [11:52:00] | juski: | and DVB-Terrestrial (DVB thru an antenna) |
| [11:52:00] | juski: | the big difference is that DVB cards don't actually capture any video |
| [11:52:00] | galorin: | Juski, ta for the help last night. I got it to tune in just fine. Now I'm having audio problems, but I think I know what I've been doing wrong. |
| [11:53:00] | confusi0n: | will a dvb-t pick up all the freeview stuff? |
| [11:53:00] | juski: | they tune into a signal & get the data out of that signal... the data they get contains MPEG2 streams which contain TV channels and stuff. |
| [11:53:00] | juski: | yeh |
| [11:53:00] | confusi0n: | thats good |
| [11:53:00] | juski: | apart from the shitty games & other 'interactive' stuff |
| [11:53:00] | confusi0n: | might pick one up as a second source, after i get a pvr card for the dbox |
| [11:53:00] | juski: | though when the BEEB are doing their red button stuff you can get them on 300–302 |
| [11:54:00] | juski: | oh and you can't use it for topuptv.. no big loss.. infact no loss at all |
| [11:54:00] | confusi0n: | heh |
| [11:55:00] | juski: | I keep saying this, but I wish there were no fsckin shopping channels on Freeview |
| [11:55:00] | juski: | or game channels |
| [11:55:00] | confusi0n: | they could replace them with something worth watching |
| [11:55:00] | Merlin83b: | For that, somebody would have to make things worth watching. |
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| [11:56:00] | juski: | it's not even as if the shopping channels have bargains |
| [11:56:00] | Merlin83b: | Sky One would be good, or better music channels. |
| [11:56:00] | confusi0n: | an interestig point |
| [11:56:00] | confusi0n: | that quiz.tv thing is a joke |
| [11:56:00] | juski: | erm.. I think Sky One might be part of the topuptv package |
| [11:56:00] | Merlin83b: | Oh really? |
| [11:56:00] | confusi0n: | has anyone ever seen anyone actually win? |
| [11:56:00] | Merlin83b: | I thought it wasn't on since the ondigital days. |
| [11:57:00] | juski: | confusi0n: the only chance you have of winning is by pure, randon luck |
| [11:57:00] | juski: | Merlin83b: think you might be right.. |
| [11:57:00] | juski: | it's been mooted I think though |
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| [11:58:00] | confusi0n: | hey jusk with your pvr card whats the cpu usage like when watching tv? |
| [11:58:00] | juski: | dunno |
| [11:59:00] | juski: | on an athlon800 without xvmc it's smooth as... |
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| [11:59:00] | confusi0n: | oh kewl |
| [11:59:00] | confusi0n: | is that running the frontend aswell? |
| [11:59:00] | juski: | with xvmc it's smooth as... but the OSD is screwy |
| [11:59:00] | juski: | yeh but I tend not to run mythfrontend on the main box |
| [11:59:00] | znoG: | juski: oh i see, so with DVB cards you have to do all the encoding/decoding, whereas with PVR cards, for example, some come with hardware based encoding/decoding.. right? |
| [12:00:00] | Merlin83b: | PVR has hardware encode. |
| [12:00:00] | juski: | just sits in a corner with power, network, aerial & video feeds going into it |
| [12:00:00] | Merlin83b: | PVR350 has hardware decode. |
| [12:00:00] | juski: | znoG: with DVB cards you do no encoding |
| [12:00:00] | confusi0n: | pvr wont decode the cable/terrestrial signal though will it? |
| [12:00:00] | Merlin83b: | DVB cards you don't... |
| [12:00:00] | Merlin83b: | confusi0n: They take the signal, hardware encode to MPEG2. |
| [12:00:00] | juski: | confusi0n: nope |
| [12:01:00] | Merlin83b: | Then you have to decode yourself unless you have a PVR350 |
| [12:01:00] | Merlin83b: | Which has a hardware decoder in addition to the encoder. |
| [12:01:00] | juski: | znoG: with a BT878 card, you have to do encoding & decoding in software – and encoding is pretty CPU intensive compared to er.. _not_ doing it ;) |
| [12:01:00] | Merlin83b: | Heh. |
| [12:01:00] | ** juski hopes Hauppauge will stop making the 350 card ** | |
| [12:02:00] | Merlin83b: | Why? |
| [12:02:00] | juski: | they're a waste of space these days |
| [12:02:00] | Merlin83b: | I'm sure people with very low powered systems see a use for them! |
| [12:02:00] | juski: | like you need assistance to decode SDTV MPEG2 |
| [12:02:00] | Merlin83b: | We do, but I guess CLE266 covers that one. |
| [12:02:00] | Merlin83b: | Some people don't have M model Epias, I guess. |
| [12:03:00] | juski: | those people with systems so low powered they need help won't be able to get new spares when their systems break down |
| [12:03:00] | Merlin83b: | They can probably get them for a pittence on eBay :-) |
| [12:03:00] | znoG: | juski: no encoding with DVB cards? so what exactly can I do with a DVB card? watch TV but not record!? |
| [12:04:00] | Merlin83b: | znoG: THey supply the already encoded DVB stream to the processor. |
| [12:04:00] | Merlin83b: | It can then either dump it to disk (record it) or decode and display it (watch tv) |
| [12:04:00] | juski: | znoG: the deal is.... they unravel a bunch of MPEG2 streams from the tuner.. and those streams go straight to your HDD |
| [12:04:00] | znoG: | oh so DVB just sends the mpeg stream to the processor |
| [12:04:00] | Merlin83b: | Pretty much what I said... |
| [12:05:00] | juski: | well not necessarily to the processor.. but onto the PCI bus ;) |
| [12:05:00] | Merlin83b: | Fair enough :-) |
| [12:05:00] | znoG: | so the main characteristic of all DVB cards is that they provide MPEG streams to the PCI bus (as rightly corrected by juski! :)) |
| [12:05:00] | znoG: | and not the raw signal as, for example, the BT878 cards |
| [12:05:00] | confusi0n: | think it would be possible to fit another video card and have X run on one and mythfrontend output to the tv via the other? |
| [12:05:00] | Merlin83b: | Yes. |
| [12:06:00] | juski: | as for CPU usage using DVB... my old athlon800 had no problems (maybe 10% CPU) recording two shows at the same time |
| [12:06:00] | confusi0n: | i'd like to be able to run mythfrontend on the tv and use this pc at th esame time |
| [12:06:00] | Merlin83b: | They give the raw signal, but the raw signal for DVB is the MPEG encoded stream |
| [12:06:00] | znoG: | cool, i should probably go for the DVB-C card.. although I heard someone say before they are problematic? |
| [12:06:00] | juski: | znoG: whether DVB-C will work for you or not depends on the cable companies who service your area |
| [12:06:00] | znoG: | oh, right.. |
| [12:07:00] | confusi0n: | dvb-c are quite expensive arn't they? they dont sell them in the uk as they violate all uk cable companies T&C's |
| [12:07:00] | znoG: | that's a bummer then, not fun spending over $100 to find out my cable company doesn't work with a DVB-C card |
| [12:07:00] | juski: | lots of cable companies encrypt their stuff, so even if it 'works' you might not be able to watch anything |
| [12:07:00] | juski: | check for evidence that people have them working with your cable company feed first |
| [12:08:00] | juski: | same story with DVB-S (satellite) |
| [12:08:00] | znoG: | yea i doubt anyone has a DVB card in this country |
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| [12:08:00] | confusi0n: | they do |
| [12:08:00] | confusi0n: | brb |
| [12:09:00] | juski: | be interesting to see how many FTA channels in English you can get on DVB-S in the UK though... that could be another avenue to explore |
| [12:10:00] | confusi0n: | not many, i've read a few topics on a forum i frequent about that |
| [12:10:00] | confusi0n: | you only get bbc etc and news 24 |
| [12:10:00] | confusi0n: | if you point it at a european dish |
| [12:10:00] | confusi0n: | you get a shitload though |
| [12:10:00] | confusi0n: | but as i say... foreign |
| [12:10:00] | confusi0n: | [away] |
| [12:11:00] | juski: | znoG:.. you're in Argentina yes? |
| [12:11:00] | juski: | www.dvb.org/about_dvb/dvb_worldwide_argentina/ |
| [12:12:00] | juski: | your government is _thinking_ about digital television, so I guess DVB is not for you |
| [12:12:00] | juski: | <afk> |
| [12:14:00] | Cardoe: | DVB-CPCM!! |
| [12:15:00] | Cardoe: | SWEET copy protection there too! |
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| [12:15:00] | stuarta: | DVB-CPCM???? |
| [12:16:00] | juski: | eh? |
| [12:16:00] | juski: | oh fuck |
| [12:18:00] | juski: | there's actually an organisation called Europe 4 DRM |
| [12:18:00] | znoG: | juski: yep |
| [12:20:00] | znoG: | juski: if the government is thinking about it, should be implemented by 2085 |
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| [12:21:00] | juski: | znoG: I think that basically you're left with a choice in that case: pvr card or a pvr card ;) |
| [12:22:00] | juski: | ffs.. the Royal Television Society have got a hand in this DRM junk aswell... wil nobody think of the _viewers_?!?!?!?! |
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| [12:27:00] | znoG: | juski: PVR as in hauppage PVR or does the BT878 card fall under that category too? |
| [12:27:00] | juski: | znoG: hauppauge PVR |
| [12:27:00] | Merlin83b: | Hauppauge |
| [12:29:00] | znoG: | juski: oh.. due to convenience I'm going to try a BT878 card. We'll see how crap it is... :) |
| [12:29:00] | znoG: | if it works "good enough" then I'll stick to it, otherwise I'll have to get one sent from the US |
| [12:29:00] | juski: | it's not so much that the BT878 card will be crap – it's CPU friendly encoding that can let it down |
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| [12:30:00] | juski: | I tried a framegrabber card with mythtv & RTJPEG encoding late last year.. it looked like VHS |
| [12:30:00] | znoG: | yea i'll have to make sure I upgrade the CPU or something |
| [12:30:00] | juski: | only not as good as VHS |
| [12:30:00] | znoG: | oh, so its not about CPU |
| [12:31:00] | juski: | not all about CPU |
| [12:31:00] | juski: | with a decent CPU you can possible encode straight to MPEG4 though |
| [12:31:00] | znoG: | yea thats what i'll be attempting |
| [12:32:00] | znoG: | so mythtv can encode straight to divx/xvid? |
| [12:32:00] | juski: | ermm... |
| [12:32:00] | stuarta: | no |
| [12:33:00] | juski: | I don;t think so |
| [12:33:00] | juski: | mythtv uses nuppelvideo, which as the mythtv website says is a modified RTJPEG codec |
| [12:33:00] | znoG: | right |
| [12:34:00] | juski: | OMG what are we doing to the world? glow in the dark pig breeding?! how did I manage to miss that story yesterday |
| [12:34:00] | stuarta: | or mpegts on a dvb card |
| [12:35:00] | juski: | stuarta: znoG is in Argentina where they don't (yet) have DVB according to dvb.org |
| [12:35:00] | unkle: | does mythtv have its own player for the nuppel-format ? or is it using an existing player ? |
| [12:36:00] | stuarta: | juski: I think they decided on a cross between ATSC & DVB |
| [12:36:00] | juski: | unkle: it has its own player |
| [12:36:00] | juski: | stuarta: ahhh |
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| [12:37:00] | stuarta: | one carried on the other, just can't remember which way it goes. |
| [12:38:00] | unkle: | juski, okay, im still puzzling with the "use-my-hw-decoder"-issue when watching DVD via MythDVD, unfortunately i cant get it to work properly |
| [12:38:00] | juski: | unkle: ??? |
| [12:39:00] | juski: | oh.,. PVR350? |
| [12:39:00] | stuarta: | ahah, argentina went for ATSC (http://www.dvb.org/about_dvb/dvb_worldwide/argentina/index.xml) |
| [12:39:00] | Syruss: | what kind of DVB is 'freeview' in the UK, this is a digital signal carried on the terrestrial uhf signal (normal TV) |
| [12:39:00] | juski: | Syruss: DVB-T |
| [12:39:00] | stuarta: | syruss: DVB-T |
| [12:39:00] | Syruss: | chars |
| [12:39:00] | unkle: | juski, heh... i thought i mentioned it yesterday, obviously i didnt :) |
| [12:39:00] | Syruss: | :p |
| [12:39:00] | ** stuarta snap! ** | |
| [12:39:00] | juski: | can we have some mythtv questions now? |
| [12:40:00] | unkle: | juski, im afraid my issue falls out of the mythtv-category (by a small margin) (?) |
| [12:40:00] | juski: | unkle: just kidding |
| [12:40:00] | Syruss: | one Q left |
| [12:41:00] | Syruss: | what's a decent budget dvb-t pci card? |
| [12:41:00] | juski: | fire away |
| [12:41:00] | juski: | decent? |
| [12:41:00] | Syruss: | well supported |
| [12:41:00] | unkle: | juski, heh okay (i just got out of bed an hour ago) #-) |
| [12:41:00] | juski: | my LR6650 cards were mega-cheap (£20 or less on Ebay).. and all 3 work very well thanks |
| [12:42:00] | juski: | avoid Twinhan, I reckon |
| [12:42:00] | Syruss: | LR6650, do they do onboard mpeg2 decoding? |
| [12:42:00] | Syruss: | or does the driver? |
| [12:42:00] | juski: | Hauppauge Nova-T are good, but their tuners are a little insensitive I hear |
| [12:42:00] | juski: | Syruss: it's already MPEG2 |
| [12:42:00] | Syruss: | hmm |
| [12:42:00] | unkle: | juski, well from what i learned yesterday fooling around in various wikis and forum i wont ever be able to direct dvd-streams directly to the hw-decoder on my pvr350, – but as far as i know Mythtv does it with the nuppel-files, so how come it cant be done with .avi and DVD ? |
| [12:42:00] | juski: | and avoid the Nebula card – it's too expensive for that it does |
| [12:43:00] | juski: | *what it does |
| [12:43:00] | Syruss: | worth a try for £20 :) |
| [12:43:00] | juski: | BlackGold GDI – same as LR6650 by Leadtek.. now in a dual tuner version but no idea if it's supported in Linux or not |
| [12:44:00] | juski: | Syruss: lr6650 crops up on ebay from time to time.. got my last one for £12 including postage |
| [12:47:00] | unkle: | im tired of choppy video on my mythtv and i cant afford more powerful hardware so i thought my best bet was to make mythtv harness the power of the hardware mpeg-decoder on the pvr350, – but it seems to be a bit fishy with support for this |
| [12:48:00] | juski: | unkle: you'd probably have to use the 'internal' player of mythtv for DVDs to use the PVR350's decoder.. unless there's an option for xine to do it |
| [12:50:00] | Syruss: | cheers juski |
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| [12:50:00] | juski: | Syruss: apparently DVICO's dual DVB-T tuner is supported in Linux |
| [12:50:00] | unkle: | juski, how do i do that ? ...the old-school method of ripping the dvd to a format that mythtvs player will recognize ? |
| [12:52:00] | juski: | unkle: hint – you might have some joy by googling for 'pvr350 xine' ;-) |
| [12:52:00] | unkle: | juski, i was told in #mplayer that mplayer will never be able to do this because the framebuffer is occupied by X, this sounds a bit incorrect to me |
| [12:52:00] | unkle: | juski, heh, ill get at it right away, – wish me luck ! ;) |
| [12:53:00] | ** juski is glad he doesn't have a PVR350 ** | |
| [12:53:00] | juski: | good luck, unkle! |
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| [12:55:00] | unkle: | juski, i got my the pvr350 because my cpu-power sucks (650MHz) |
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| [12:58:00] | juski: | I'd have spent the money on a faster CPU |
| [12:58:00] | juski: | but that's just me |
| [12:59:00] | unkle: | juski, i follow, but then id need a newer motherboard too i think, and from what ive been told the pvr's tv-out is one of the better ones in the market (?) |
| [12:59:00] | juski: | it used to be |
| [12:59:00] | unkle: | okay, what would you recommend then ? |
| [12:59:00] | juski: | it's good, but it's not that much of an improvement over current TV outs on video cards |
| [13:00:00] | juski: | certainly not worth sacrificing DVD playback for |
| [13:00:00] | juski: | you have a few options |
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| [13:00:00] | juski: | buy a 2nd hand mobo & CPU from Ebay for not much cash |
| [13:00:00] | laga: | juski: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Category . . . ocumentation <- might be a place to put your dbox script |
| [13:00:00] | juski: | rip your DVDs to a single movie file & use the internal player |
| [13:01:00] | juski: | or buy a recent-ish nvidia card & use XvMC |
| [13:01:00] | juski: | cheers laga: |
| [13:02:00] | Syruss: | speaking of hdtv, anyone know if there will be any hd dvb-t in the uk any time soon? |
| [13:02:00] | Syruss: | I assume not |
| [13:02:00] | juski: | pvr150 is working well, even with the 'kernel panic' 0.4.1. Had liveTV working for close to 5 hours, changing channels regularly & it was great |
| [13:02:00] | juski: | Syruss: no |
| [13:02:00] | Syruss: | L. |
| [13:02:00] | Syruss: | :/ |
| [13:02:00] | juski: | not until analogue is switched off at least |
| [13:02:00] | unkle: | juski, oki i guess id better start saving then ;) ...perhaps get another paper-route :D |
| [13:03:00] | juski: | and Sryuss: it'll be MPEG4, so by the time it happens we'll be able to afford the CPUs needed to decode it |
| [13:03:00] | juski: | unkle: only talking like $30 or something.. won't take long to save that amount |
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| [13:04:00] | Syruss: | do you know any makes of lr6650's? |
| [13:04:00] | Syruss: | I assume that's the chipset right |
| [13:04:00] | juski: | Syruss: Leadtek are the only make |
| [13:04:00] | juski: | it's a codename |
| [13:04:00] | Syruss: | do they do any without remote controls? |
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| [13:04:00] | juski: | actually they brought it out with a proper name |
| [13:04:00] | unkle: | juski :) |
| [13:04:00] | Syruss: | I found one for £16 from my normal retailer, none on ebay though |
| [13:05:00] | juski: | Syruss: £316 for a NEW DVB-T tuner? |
| [13:06:00] | juski: | damn shift key |
| [13:06:00] | Syruss: | Leadtek Winfast TV2000 XP RM PAL, Remote Control & Time-Shifting |
| [13:06:00] | Syruss: | yah |
| [13:06:00] | juski: | do NOT buy that card |
| [13:06:00] | Syruss: | £19 inc vat |
| [13:06:00] | Syruss: | http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index . . . ct_uid=66298 |
| [13:06:00] | juski: | it's not DVB-T |
| [13:07:00] | juski: | Leadtek DTV1000T is the LR6650 by a different name.. and they enabled the analogue inputs (useless anyway) |
| [13:07:00] | Syruss: | oh |
| [13:07:00] | Syruss: | thanks |
| [13:08:00] | juski: | only buy it if it says DVB-T in the name or the description ;-) |
| [13:08:00] | juski: | or you won't get yer Freeview channels |
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| [13:08:00] | Syruss: | right, thanks |
| [13:08:00] | Syruss: | :p |
| [13:09:00] | ** juski scratches his head.. how do you edit wikis again? :-/ ** | |
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| [13:10:00] | juski: | bah I'll look at it later |
| [13:10:00] | juski: | <afk> |
| [13:10:00] | laga: | hehe |
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| [13:10:00] | laga: | juski: you click on "edit" |
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| [13:20:00] | Syruss: | hmm, where to find this card |
| [13:25:00] | Syruss: | here we go £43 each |
| [13:31:00] | confusi0n: | juski: that patch didn't really do much for me |
| [13:32:00] | confusi0n: | worth a try anyway |
| [13:32:00] | confusi0n: | its off to pvr we go |
| [13:32:00] | Chacabaou: | It looks like mythweb's constant 'hostname' gets defined twice (in conf.php and init.php). Should I really write a ticket? |
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| [13:35:00] | confusi0n: | whats a good remote 'package' to buy? |
| [13:36:00] | [Elvis]: | hello, I was wondering which card to buy...the hauppauge wintv pvr 350 which allready has a tv-out or a 500 with a seperate tv-out card, and if the 500 is the case....what is a good tv-out card |
| [13:37:00] | Beirdo: | most modern nvidia cards have decent tv-out, but will use more CPU than the 350 |
| [13:37:00] | Beirdo: | it would depend on what your system specs will be, I guess |
| [13:38:00] | juski: | add to that the fact that the PVR350 will eat more CPU when playing DVDs & other videos outside of mythtv |
| [13:39:00] | Beirdo: | ah, true |
| [13:39:00] | Beirdo: | the video cards are more versatile |
| [13:39:00] | juski: | so if you're gonna be playing dvds & transcoded material like dvix/xvid, you lose the advantage of the PVR350 mpeg decoder anyway |
| [13:40:00] | Beirdo: | and if you ever want to do HDTV, the video card route maybe the only way (nvidia using xvmc) |
| [13:40:00] | juski: | and the quality argument is not as strong these days.. TV out on video cards is a lot better than it used to be |
| [13:41:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, nvidia finally is using quality tv encoders. finally caught up to ATI on that regard |
| [13:41:00] | juski: | confusi0n: I have a feeling that the UDP streaming will improve things no end.. it uses a totally different method & probably won't overload the http daemon |
| [13:42:00] | Beirdo: | ATI video cards also work if you have the patience :) (Radeon 8500 or newer using ATI drivers) |
| [13:42:00] | juski: | be interesting to see if the hardware assisted H.264 make it to Linux |
| [13:42:00] | confusi0n: | juski: when is that getting implimented? |
| [13:43:00] | juski: | confusi0n: no idea.. when it's ready I suppose. depends what else Levon is up to etc. He'll probably put some code out as soon as he's got some for people to try |
| [13:43:00] | ** confusi0n nods ** | |
| [13:44:00] | confusi0n: | its all good |
| [13:44:00] | confusi0n: | does it not use spts then? |
| [13:44:00] | [Elvis]: | is there anyone in here using the 350 or 500? |
| [13:44:00] | confusi0n: | oh ic it will use a different method to change channels? |
| [13:45:00] | juski: | confusi0n: no idea.. but UDP will be different to TCP streaming.. less overhead I think |
| [13:45:00] | juski: | oo mythbusters recorded just fine. love my discovery channel :) |
| [13:46:00] | [Elvis]: | ok...I have a 800 cpu...it's an older pc....so I will need the hardware mpeg2 ....so what would be the best solution then? |
| [13:46:00] | juski: | "in this episode, they test speed radar busting tricks, from a disco ball hanging in a rearview mirror, to covering a car in foil" :-D |
| [13:47:00] | juski: | [Elvis]: PVR500 – dual tuners.. next to no CPU used when recording |
| [13:47:00] | juski: | and my Athlon 800 can decode MPEG2 without the help of XvMC no problem |
| [13:48:00] | laga: | praet: can you tell me the version of your nvidia drivers, please? |
| [13:52:00] | [Elvis]: | juski and what to use for tv-out then? which cards have hardware mpeg2 |
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| [13:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | [Elvis]: Your CPU can decode non HDTV Mpeg2 without a hardware decoder |
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| [13:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | but just about any Nvidia card from the last couple years can decode mpeg2 in hardware |
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| [13:55:00] | [Elvis]: | I got a geforce 2 |
| [13:55:00] | [Elvis]: | can it hardware decode mpeg2? |
| [13:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | That one might be iffy |
| [13:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | I know that there is some hardware support on some of the GF2's, but I don't know how well they are supported in the driver |
| [13:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | any GF4 and up should be fine |
| [13:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | And like I said, your CPU can decode it anyway |
| [13:57:00] | confusi0n: | i got a gf fx 5700 |
| [13:57:00] | confusi0n: | will that do it? |
| [13:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | certainly |
| [13:57:00] | [Elvis]: | greyfoxx it's a 800 mhz are you sure? |
| [13:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | [Elvis]: Yes |
| [13:57:00] | confusi0n: | thats awesome, so really, watching livetv my cpu usage is going to be < 10% |
| [13:57:00] | juski: | geforce2Ti can't.. speaking from experience |
| [13:57:00] | confusi0n: | ? |
| [13:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | as long as you aren't trying to decode HDTV then it wont be fine for standard def tv |
| [13:58:00] | [Elvis]: | I have the gts I think |
| [13:58:00] | juski: | lol.. mythweb finding showings of the X files has found "the sex files" |
| [13:58:00] | Merlin83b: | Heh |
| [13:59:00] | juski: | "erotic drama in which a tomb raider gets more than he bargained for when he uncovers an ancient female mummy who will die if she doesn't keep having sex" |
| [14:00:00] | Arkkis: | lol |
| [14:00:00] | Merlin83b: | Sounds classy. |
| [14:00:00] | juski: | why do they even _bother_ with the plot? |
| [14:00:00] | Merlin83b: | How would the actors portray their characters if there were no plot? |
| [14:00:00] | Arkkis: | maybe they're having a contest within the storywriters who can write the worst story |
| [14:00:00] | juski: | still – might record it. can't be worse than Val Helsing |
| [14:00:00] | juski: | characters? |
| [14:01:00] | Beirdo: | characters? |
| [14:01:00] | Merlin83b: | There's the tomb radier, and the mummy. |
| [14:01:00] | Beirdo: | in a porn? |
| [14:01:00] | Beirdo: | hehhe |
| [14:01:00] | Merlin83b: | They're characters! |
| [14:01:00] | Beirdo: | chick #1, chick #2 |
| [14:01:00] | juski: | chick #3 |
| [14:01:00] | laga: | i wouldn't mind a porn with lara croft: tomb raider ;) |
| [14:01:00] | Beirdo: | and guy who does em all |
| [14:02:00] | Merlin83b: | laga: Do you mean Angelina Jolie? |
| [14:02:00] | laga: | righto |
| [14:02:00] | Beirdo: | too fake |
| [14:02:00] | juski: | sprouting forth with Brad PItt offsrping before too long too |
| [14:03:00] | Beirdo: | poor kids |
| [14:03:00] | Merlin83b: | So you should probably see Gia, then. |
| [14:03:00] | Merlin83b: | Haven't seen it myself, but she at least gets naked. |
| [14:07:00] | Cromz: | no.. don't see Gia. just find or fastfoward to the one sceene. cause I tried to watch that show and fell alseep. twice. |
| [14:07:00] | Cromz: | and missed it. |
| [14:07:00] | juski: | anything been done about that feature request from way back? to keep the WAF up, mythtv would cover up the fact that porn has been recorded |
| [14:07:00] | confusi0n: | whats a recommended min spec for frontend if i wanna watch livetv, divx, etc? are divx's transcoded on the backend or front end? |
| [14:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | confusi0n: No they are not |
| [14:08:00] | znoG: | a porno with angelina jolie and in comes jennifer lopez, and to finish off jennifer love hewitt |
| [14:08:00] | confusi0n: | not what? lol |
| [14:08:00] | juski: | confusi0n: I can watch dvix/xvid on a 1Ghz CPU |
| [14:08:00] | confusi0n: | thats good |
| [14:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | Oh wait, I thought you meant on the fly transcoding, do you mean using mythtranscode to convert mpeg2 to mpeg4 ? |
| [14:08:00] | confusi0n: | might build a cheap and cheerful frontend box and run backend on my 2600 desktop |
| [14:08:00] | juski: | and dvds get transcoded on the machine they're ripped on IIRC |
| [14:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use my P3650 for a frontend and it plays mpeg 2 perfectly, but some (not all) xvids stutter. the P3 800 plays it all fine |
| [14:09:00] | confusi0n: | basically what i mean, is what would the frontend have to do that would be cpu intensive? |
| [14:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | confusi0n: Pretty much just decoding/playback |
| [14:10:00] | juski: | GreyFoxx: sounds like 'unkle' is doing something wrong then |
| [14:10:00] | ** confusi0n nods ** | |
| [14:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | My XP2500 frontend uses around 11% during playback with no hardware assist |
| [14:10:00] | confusi0n: | so > 800–1000 would be fine then? |
| [14:10:00] | juski: | imagine so |
| [14:10:00] | juski: | it's not under Windows though.. ROFL |
| [14:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | for safety go for 1G+ |
| [14:10:00] | confusi0n: | aye |
| [14:10:00] | Cromz: | juski, I think that you should be able to pick a certain color and make that a flesh detector.. so when there is a large area of that color or slightly off from that color it'll play a pre-recorded wav.. ;) |
| [14:11:00] | juski: | Cromz: this guy was on about using an external tuner.. and when he'd watched or recorded a porn channel, the cable/sat box was left on the channel – thereby getting him found out |
| [14:11:00] | Cromz: | kinda like commercial flagging.. call it flesh flagging. lol |
| [14:11:00] | Cromz: | doh. |
| [14:12:00] | confusi0n: | i should be able to buy an old 1ghz+ on the cheap then and do a nice little box |
| [14:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | juski: Why does he have to hide it ? :) |
| [14:12:00] | Cromz: | couldn't he setup a job to change the channel after it was recorded? |
| [14:12:00] | juski: | could have a cron do that.. 6am every morning change the channel to BBC1 |
| [14:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | anyone who can't handle a man watching the occasional pr0n needs to get her sh*t together |
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| [14:13:00] | confusi0n: | how long can i span an rf video cable (for capture) before losing quality u think? |
| [14:13:00] | juski: | GreyFoxx: you're right of course.. watching porn alone is for losers |
| [14:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | now if it's an obession then it's another matter |
| [14:13:00] | Beirdo: | GreyFoxx, or maybe she should put out more... |
| [14:14:00] | juski: | well I say 'losers'. what I meant to say was wa... |
| [14:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | Beirdo: Pr0n is about fantasy, nothing wrong with fantasy no matter how much you get regularly :) |
| [14:14:00] | Cromz: | juski, this guy you was talking about.. wasn't you was it. :O |
| [14:14:00] | juski: | maybe 'she' was his mother.. lol |
| [14:14:00] | Cromz: | ewwwww |
| [14:15:00] | Beirdo: | true, but it's more likely to become an obsession without regular reality :) |
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| [14:15:00] | juski: | speaking from experience? ;) |
| [14:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | hehe sounds like it! |
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| [14:15:00] | Beirdo: | no comment |
| [14:15:00] | laga: | *g* |
| [14:16:00] | juski: | I shoudln't scoff. I walked in on my flatmate cracking one off in the livingroom once. scarred me for life |
| [14:16:00] | Cromz: | well if it's his mom.. she should be happy he's not watching hmm the alternative.. |
| [14:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | juski: lolol |
| [14:16:00] | juski: | dammit I should remember this channel is logged. even more so I should remember bash.org... argghhhh |
| [14:17:00] | Beirdo: | juski: eeek. that's a scarring moment... unless the flatmate is female. |
| [14:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | hahaha |
| [14:17:00] | laga: | something smells fishy in here. |
| [14:17:00] | juski: | eeew |
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| [14:19:00] | Beirdo: | doxygen rules |
| [14:19:00] | juski: | ha! a certain HDD manufacturer who had faulty firmware are sending us a fix.. awww but they're too late.. never mind |
| [14:19:00] | Beirdo: | go, WD :) |
| [14:19:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [14:19:00] | Cromz: | Juski you havn't been quoted yet.. just did a search on your nick. :> |
| [14:20:00] | juski: | I think it has to be pretty original to make it in these days |
| [14:20:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [14:20:00] | juski: | people must drop themselves in it like that all the time |
| [14:20:00] | Beirdo: | whatever, original or not, it has to strike their fancy |
| [14:21:00] | Beirdo: | go give favours to a moderator if you want in |
| [14:21:00] | juski: | was surprised that eejut from here didn't make it in |
| [14:23:00] | Beirdo: | heh, yeah |
| [14:23:00] | [Elvis]: | ok, thanks for the information...I'll go for the hauppauge 500 pvr then |
| [14:23:00] | Beirdo: | oh GOD, it's about 9:30 and I'm still on the couch |
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| [14:23:00] | Beirdo: | I guess I should try to re-gruntle myself for a day of work |
| [14:23:00] | laga: | Beirdo: get yer lazy ass to work ;)) |
| [14:23:00] | ** laga catches up on some recordings ** | |
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| [14:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | [Elvis]: Because they assume you are running windows and therefore could have 5 million little apps and icons running on a poorly maintained machine. So they err on the side of caution by overestimating requirements |
| [14:27:00] | [Elvis]: | just wondering because the 350 only needs 733....while I assume both have hardware mpeg2 encoding |
| [14:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | Even that is wrong |
| [14:28:00] | [Elvis]: | so they shouldn't use to much cpu ...right? |
| [14:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | a 350 could run on a P166 |
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| [14:28:00] | defaultro: | hi GreyFoxx, does the SVN stable in cvs.mythtv.org gets updated too? |
| [14:28:00] | [Elvis]: | so what kind of remote controller would be good ..since they don't deliver one with the 500? |
| [14:28:00] | juski: | if the system has enough grunt to get the MPEG data onto disk ;) |
| [14:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | defaultro: I don't understand your question |
| [14:29:00] | juski: | stable in SVN (formerly CVS) is version 0.18 with fixes – no feature enhancements iirc |
| [14:31:00] | defaultro: | i mean, if assuming a file has a bug previously, does it get modified? |
| [14:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | no, no really |
| [14:31:00] | [Elvis]: | greyfoxx do you know a good remote control? |
| [14:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | some stuff and fixes get pushed back to 0.18-fixes, |
| [14:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | but most patches don't |
| [14:31:00] | defaultro: | so it's possible that the svn that i've been running before is still the same as the one on that site? |
| [14:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | well, where you running 0.18-fixes ? or the main development svn branch ? |
| [14:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | when most people referr to running svn they mean the development branch |
| [14:32:00] | defaultro: | i don't remember running any 0.18 fixes |
| [14:32:00] | defaultro: | ah |
| [14:33:00] | defaultro: | the trunk you mean? |
| [14:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [14:33:00] | defaultro: | gotcha |
| [14:33:00] | defaultro: | is it buggy? I want to try it |
| [14:33:00] | defaultro: | 2 months ago, i heard that something was wrong hdtv |
| [14:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | [Elvis]: Not really. I use a programmable IR remote that I trained to use IR keyboard signals for one of my frontends, and a Niveus RF remote (which they no longer make) for my other |
| [14:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | every version of every application ever made is buggy is some way :) |
| [14:34:00] | [Elvis]: | hmm k |
| [14:34:00] | [Elvis]: | since the 500 is for some weird reason the only one coming without a remote |
| [14:35:00] | [Elvis]: | why is the 500 called the media centre edition..as if you're SUPPOSED to use windows crap with it |
| [14:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | That's aexactly why :) |
| [14:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's marketing crap :) |
| [14:36:00] | juski: | GreyFoxx: soon going to send a bunch of updated UK channel icons to lyngsat to get them more up to date :) |
| [14:36:00] | [Elvis]: | so there's NO difference between the mce versions and the normal ones GreyFoxx ? |
| [14:36:00] | tweak_st: | or as the marketers call it 'art' |
| [14:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | juski: Sweet |
| [14:36:00] | juski: | did you send me that email btw? |
| [14:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | [Elvis]: the main diff is that the MCE ones often don't come with a remote. There are sometimes minor other diffs, but nothing maor |
| [14:37:00] | juski: | <afK> ( damn work) |
| [14:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | juski: my sent-mail says I did :) |
| [14:37:00] | [Elvis]: | ok since I just ordered the mce version GreyFoxx :p |
| [14:38:00] | [Elvis]: | but it appears there only exists a mce of the 500 hauppauge.. |
| [14:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | yup |
| [14:38:00] | [Elvis]: | GreyFoxx what do you use for a tv-card? |
| [14:38:00] | defaultro: | juski, i had issue with your theme. It takes a long time when I select "Watch Recordings" |
| [14:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | PVR 250's |
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| [14:39:00] | [Elvis]: | would you prefer 2 250's over 1 500? |
| [14:39:00] | defaultro: | I switched back to Nuvola and it does not take too long to display the recorded program listings |
| [14:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | [Elvis]: personally yes, but that's cause I have been using them for years |
| [14:40:00] | [Elvis]: | any special reason for it? |
| [14:40:00] | defaultro: | Juski, any ideas? |
| [14:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | reason for using 250's or reason I prefer them ? |
| [14:41:00] | [Elvis]: | reason for using 250's |
| [14:41:00] | [Elvis]: | what's the big difference between 250 and 150 then? |
| [14:41:00] | tweak_st: | 250 has hw mpeg encoder |
| [14:41:00] | laga: | so has the 150. |
| [14:41:00] | tweak_st: | 150 has only decoder |
| [14:41:00] | laga: | that's bu,l,l |
| [14:41:00] | laga: | bullshit* |
| [14:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | tweak no |
| [14:41:00] | tweak_st: | or i have it reversed |
| [14:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | both are encoders only |
| [14:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | the 350 has encoder + decoder |
| [14:42:00] | laga: | 150 is basically newer and has the same feature as the 250 |
| [14:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | [Elvis]: The 150's and 500's didn't exist when I bought the 250's :) |
| [14:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | The 150 is just a newer model replacing the 250. they can make them cheaper but maintain the same functionality |
| [14:43:00] | [Elvis]: | so why 2 150's/250's over 1 500? |
| [14:43:00] | [Elvis]: | any reason for that? |
| [14:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | Cause I already own the 250's ? |
| [14:43:00] | [Elvis]: | ok...but basically speaking...I'm wondering what's the best buy |
| [14:43:00] | [Elvis]: | :) |
| [14:43:00] | Merlin83b: | IF a 500 works, it's the best buy. |
| [14:43:00] | [Elvis]: | so if you would have to decide now..without having anything |
| [14:43:00] | [Elvis]: | Merlin83b why shouldn't it work? |
| [14:43:00] | Merlin83b: | I don't know if driver support for the 500 is around yet. |
| [14:43:00] | Merlin83b: | They're pretty new afaik. |
| [14:44:00] | confusi0n: | what will a 500 do? take two sources at once? |
| [14:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | The 500's have been supported for a long time |
| [14:44:00] | Merlin83b: | confusi0n: Yeah, it's like 2 150s in one card. |
| [14:44:00] | [Elvis]: | Dual 125 channel cable ready TV tuners, each with a dbx-TV stereo decoder (Nicam stereo decoder in Europe) |
| [14:44:00] | tweak_st: | well 2 250s will take up an extra pci slot and if you want more encoders you would have to go with the 500 |
| [14:44:00] | ** defaultro thinks that as long as there is very good driver support in linux, I would get it ** | |
| [14:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | [Elvis]: I would look at cost. For a long time 2 150's was cheaper to buy than a single 500 |
| [14:45:00] | Merlin83b: | So you have to decide if the using a single PCI slot is worth it for you. |
| [14:45:00] | [Elvis]: | well.. |
| [14:45:00] | [Elvis]: | 2* 150 = 130 euro...and 1* 500 = 200 |
| [14:45:00] | [Elvis]: | erm |
| [14:45:00] | [Elvis]: | 119 |
| [14:45:00] | [Elvis]: | sorry |
| [14:45:00] | Merlin83b: | THen 500 it is. |
| [14:45:00] | [Elvis]: | so it's basically 10 euro cheaper |
| [14:45:00] | Merlin83b: | No competition. |
| [14:45:00] | [Elvis]: | for 500 |
| [14:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'd go with whatever is cheaper |
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| [14:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | Actually I'd probably still go with the 2 150's if the diff is only 10e |
| [14:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | but that's cause I like the flexibility of moving 1 card around to another machine if I want |
| [14:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | but in the end it's whatever is most important to you |
| [14:46:00] | defaultro: | GreyFoxx, can the 150s do QAM? |
| [14:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | no |
| [14:46:00] | defaultro: | k |
| [14:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | not, like you are thinking :) |
| [14:47:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [14:47:00] | defaultro: | so it takes svideo or composite inputs |
| [14:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | they do |
| [14:47:00] | defaultro: | k |
| [14:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | Tuner+composite and depending on the card svideo |
| [14:47:00] | defaultro: | what tool should we use if we want to record our family recordings from our video cam? |
| [14:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use dvgrab to pull the video off my camera over firewire |
| [14:48:00] | [Elvis]: | well GreyFoxx I just want to be able to pause my tv...and stuff like that.. |
| [14:48:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [14:48:00] | defaultro: | then it gets spit out as .mpg? |
| [14:48:00] | [Elvis]: | and have 2 video outputs...1 to my tv...and 1 to my beamer.. |
| [14:48:00] | [Elvis]: | :P |
| [14:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | defaultro: No |
| [14:49:00] | Kabutor: | dvgrab is amazing piece of tiny software |
| [14:49:00] | defaultro: | what format does it use? |
| [14:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's some DV50 codec |
| [14:49:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [14:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | it's what the camera uses |
| [14:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | dvgrab just saves what the camera sends |
| [14:49:00] | Kabutor: | and autosplit the scenes |
| [14:49:00] | defaultro: | then what's the next tool? |
| [14:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kabutor: yeah, it's nifty |
| [14:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | defaultro: There are a ton of editors out there |
| [14:50:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [14:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've used several |
| [14:50:00] | defaultro: | which one do you liked most? |
| [14:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | None |
| [14:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | they were all crap |
| [14:50:00] | Kabutor: | I just use, dvgrab -> ffmpeg -target dvd -> dvdauthor ;) |
| [14:50:00] | [Elvis]: | hmm....greyfoxx....I don't know if this exists...but is it possible to have 2 televisions running on mythtv? |
| [14:50:00] | defaultro: | cool |
| [14:50:00] | [Elvis]: | and both have a control interface? |
| [14:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | but currently I use Studio from Pinnacle |
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| [14:50:00] | defaultro: | Elvis |
| [14:50:00] | defaultro: | yes |
| [14:50:00] | znoG: | [Elvis]: yes, infact one guy here did just that |
| [14:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | [Elvis]: If you know how to configure X with multiple cards yes |
| [14:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's not that hard really |
| [14:51:00] | [Elvis]: | ok..but then I would prefer the 2*150's right? |
| [14:51:00] | defaultro: | just some modification in xorg.conf file |
| [14:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | [Elvis]: No |
| [14:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | That wouldn't matter |
| [14:51:00] | [Elvis]: | not? |
| [14:51:00] | defaultro: | 150s or 500s are just capturers |
| [14:51:00] | [Elvis]: | like..I have 2 rooms with television..and 2 infra-reds...and I want them both on 1 box.. |
| [14:51:00] | [Elvis]: | that's the idea |
| [14:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | That's doable |
| [14:52:00] | [Elvis]: | nice 8) |
| [14:52:00] | [Elvis]: | then I'm probably gonna need 2* the 500...if I want them to be able to watch different shows...AND record |
| [14:52:00] | [Elvis]: | :P |
| [14:52:00] | defaultro: | so when you start playing your video from your video cam, data is also sent out the port on the camera? |
| [14:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | def yes |
| [14:53:00] | defaultro: | gotcha |
| [14:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | dvgrab sends the signal to the camera to start playing the video |
| [14:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | and ity records what gets sent |
| [14:53:00] | defaultro: | wow |
| [14:54:00] | [Elvis]: | GreyFoxx so for tv-out you would be just using a normal videocard...since I'm also gonna need 2 of those then |
| [14:54:00] | [Elvis]: | instead of a mpeg card |
| [14:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | elvs: yeah, I use nvidia cards for my pc frontends |
| [14:55:00] | [Elvis]: | that's prolly a more expensive solution isn't it? |
| [14:55:00] | [Elvis]: | but will be able to run more.. |
| [14:55:00] | Kabutor: | GreyFoxx, did you get dri with nvidia tvout? |
| [14:55:00] | tweak_st: | geforce4 mx? |
| [14:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | all of my cards are GF4 mx440's |
| [14:55:00] | tweak_st: | cool |
| [14:55:00] | defaultro: | i couldn't remember how many vga or dvi port the FX5200 has |
| [14:55:00] | tweak_st: | doesnt give you any trouble with video? |
| [14:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kabutor: I believe so yes |
| [14:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | tweak_st: None at all |
| [14:56:00] | [Elvis]: | so GreyFoxx they also support mpeg2 hardware the gf4? |
| [14:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | [Elvis]: They support it, but I don't use XvMC (the hardware mpeg2 decoding for those cards) |
| [14:56:00] | [Elvis]: | why not? |
| [14:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | I have no reason to |
| [14:57:00] | defaultro: | i saw on a thread that XvMC is still buggy |
| [14:57:00] | [Elvis]: | ok..but mythtv saves it as encoded right? |
| [14:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | [Elvis]: The stream from the 250/150/350/500 comes in as mpeg2 and is written directly to the drive yes |
| [14:58:00] | [Elvis]: | so you will need a mpeg2 decoder right..if you don't want the cpu to do it? |
| [14:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | *sigh* |
| [14:59:00] | Kabutor: | it doesnt take much cpu power |
| [14:59:00] | Kabutor: | in these days of P4 and so |
| [14:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | If you REALLY REALLY REALLY don't want your CPU to decode it then yes, you would need a decoder of some sort. |
| [14:59:00] | [Elvis]: | :P |
| [14:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | But I have no reason to use a decoder as my CPU's do it fine |
| [14:59:00] | [Elvis]: | well...I just doubt my 800 is gona be able to decode 2 streams :P |
| [14:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | Oh right, you want to run 2 of them on a single 800 |
| [15:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | that could be an issue |
| [15:00:00] | [Elvis]: | yeah..that's why I thought of hardware mpeg2 |
| [15:00:00] | Kabutor: | and recording? hope you use SCSI or something faster than dma :) |
| [15:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | Or just get a better CPU :) |
| [15:00:00] | [Elvis]: | yeah that's an option too |
| [15:00:00] | [Elvis]: | :P |
| [15:00:00] | Kabutor: | more if i think that a 800 Mhz only get UDMA3 ? |
| [15:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | there isn't that much data during cording |
| [15:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | umda33 is more than enough |
| [15:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | for a couple streams |
| [15:01:00] | Kabutor: | and recording? |
| [15:01:00] | defaultro: | any ideas guys wether sw raid5 will perform better than lvm xfs? |
| [15:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kabutor: yeah |
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| [15:02:00] | juski: | [Elvis}: why would you need to decode 2 mpeg2 streams at once on the same machine? |
| [15:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | But if he has 4 recordings+2playback going at once he could run into issues |
| [15:02:00] | [Elvis]: | juski...2 tv's? |
| [15:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | juski: He wants to run 2 frontends from the same machine to 2 tv's |
| [15:02:00] | [Elvis]: | well..that was the idea |
| [15:02:00] | [Elvis]: | :P |
| [15:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | justy using multiple video cards |
| [15:02:00] | juski: | :-/ |
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| [15:02:00] | [Elvis]: | bad idea juski ? :P |
| [15:02:00] | defaultro: | juski, did you see my post earlier about issues with your theme? |
| [15:02:00] | juski: | 2 TVs.. 2 remotes... |
| [15:02:00] | [Elvis]: | yeah |
| [15:02:00] | juski: | defaultro: nope |
| [15:03:00] | [Elvis]: | :P |
| [15:03:00] | [Elvis]: | 2 sounddevices |
| [15:03:00] | [Elvis]: | :P |
| [15:03:00] | defaultro: | juski, it takes 10 to 15 secs before the recorded listing is shown when i select "Watch recordings" |
| [15:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | [Elvis]: Kab is right though, you might want to consider a DMA IDE card or something. Under normal use you would not have any issue with reading and writting to the drive, but in trheory you could max it out with 4 recordings and 2 played back at the same time |
| [15:03:00] | juski: | defaultro: AFAIK nothing to do with the theme |
| [15:03:00] | defaultro: | juski, i switched back to Nuvola and it only took 1 second to display it |
| [15:04:00] | [Elvis]: | ok GreyFoxx |
| [15:04:00] | Merlin83b: | GreyFoxx: May as well throw in some commercial flagging too :-) |
| [15:04:00] | Merlin83b: | Could be 4 recording, 4 commflag, 2 playbacks :-) |
| [15:04:00] | defaultro: | juski, any clues? |
| [15:04:00] | ** juski issues the same old disclaimer: it's fine on my system ** | |
| [15:04:00] | rhendershot: | wouldn't the MediaMVP be a better solution for the 2 tv's ? |
| [15:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | Merlin83b: Hehe |
| [15:04:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [15:04:00] | juski: | defaultro: if I was able to reproduce it I could fix it, but since I don't experience the problem I can't |
| [15:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | rhendershot: The MVP's are great if you don't want to watch non mpeg2 stuff and don't care if you whave a "full" frontend. I've got an MVP and it works very well for recordings |
| [15:05:00] | juski: | if you run mythfrontend from a terminal session are there any complaints about missing files? |
| [15:05:00] | juski: | (not that there should be).. and btw which theme are you talking about? wide or normal? |
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| [15:07:00] | tweak_st: | juski know any good theme tutorials? |
| [15:08:00] | ** juski is self-taught in making themes ** | |
| [15:08:00] | rhendershot: | GreyFoxx I haven't hooked mine up yet. have to put net upstairs. thought it would be great to view recordings up there which is pretty much all I need there. |
| [15:08:00] | juski: | there used to be a brief one linked to from the wiki |
| [15:08:00] | tweak_st: | heh..fair enough |
| [15:08:00] | [Elvis]: | is the mediamvp like a external videocard? |
| [15:08:00] | juski: | tweak_st: it's not hard.. you can work out what's going on from the xml files pretty easily |
| [15:09:00] | juski: | the MVP is a standalone box |
| [15:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | [Elvis]: No, it's a small stb that can be connected to myth to play recordings |
| [15:10:00] | rhendershot: | Greyfoxx it plays the .nuv recordings ? |
| [15:10:00] | juski: | rhendershot: it'll only play mpeg2 .nuv recordings |
| [15:10:00] | [Elvis]: | so you still have the myth interface then.. |
| [15:10:00] | juski: | kind of |
| [15:10:00] | rhendershot: | juski gotcha tx |
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| [15:16:00] | rhendershot: | what should I expect of transcoding job? say I have a .nuv and I watch it, and use X. I set it up to save From MPEG2 (hauppage 350) to MPEG-4 |
| [15:17:00] | rhendershot: | it died at around 750M and the file type is unrecognizable, data. |
| [15:17:00] | rhendershot: | saved with .nuv extension (kind of expected mpg or mpeg) |
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| [15:19:00] | juski: | laga: I'm not sure that wiki page is the right place to put my scripts. In the interim I'll pop a message out to the devs/users list |
| [15:19:00] | rhendershot: | well actually the job log says completed. but the default transcode left me with a 2G filesize. |
| [15:20:00] | dasOp: | rhendershot: everything myth does ends up in a .nuv, that doesnt mean its nuppelvideo |
| [15:20:00] | [Elvis]: | btw...how does mythtv get the program guide? |
| [15:21:00] | Beirdo: | argh |
| [15:21:00] | rhendershot: | dasOp file gives me a type of data |
| [15:21:00] | Beirdo: | trying to remember which show is playing tonight that I wanted to check on |
| [15:22:00] | Beirdo: | ahhh |
| [15:22:00] | Beirdo: | BSG |
| [15:22:00] | Beirdo: | duh |
| [15:22:00] | laga: | juski: sounds good |
| [15:22:00] | Beirdo: | I removed it so I didn't get the OOOOLD ones |
| [15:22:00] | laga: | dasOp: if you transcode to rtjpeg or mpeg4, it will be nuppelvideo. |
| [15:23:00] | Beirdo: | having 3 tuners rules |
| [15:23:00] | rhendershot: | laga I'm trying to convince MythTV to transcode nuppelvideo into something I can put on a DVD directly, without the mencoder/dvdauthor script |
| [15:23:00] | Beirdo: | I still have one conflict daily though |
| [15:24:00] | [Elvis]: | what tv listing service does mythtv use? |
| [15:24:00] | Beirdo: | rhendershot: if it's MPEG2, you just demux/remux |
| [15:24:00] | Beirdo: | if it's MPEG4 or RTJPEG, use nuvexport |
| [15:24:00] | Beirdo: | and expect it to take a while |
| [15:24:00] | rhendershot: | Beirdo I couldn't satisfy the LVE dependancy |
| [15:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | [Elvis]: In north america it's Zap2it's data direct |
| [15:24:00] | Beirdo: | you don't need it |
| [15:25:00] | Beirdo: | that's only NEEDED to do mpeg2cut |
| [15:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | other countries use xmltv grabbers to get the listings from various sites |
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| [15:25:00] | [Elvis]: | hmm any clue if this is also available for the netherlands? |
| [15:25:00] | Beirdo: | is the Netherlands in North America? |
| [15:25:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [15:25:00] | rhendershot: | Beirdo ok tx. I can try it again. |
| [15:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | I know that people from the netherlands use it, no idea how/where their listings come from |
| [15:26:00] | Beirdo: | heh. I'm pretty sure there is a xmltv for NL |
| [15:26:00] | [Elvis]: | Beirdo :P |
| [15:26:00] | rhendershot: | isn't there some feature in MythTV tho to do this? I guess I thought I'd setup nuvexport as a custom job and add it to the default recording profile. is that the way to go? |
| [15:26:00] | [Elvis]: | I know when I was in florida...there was like some standard nice tv listing on the television itself.. |
| [15:26:00] | Beirdo: | send me some triple-salt licorice, would ya? :) |
| [15:26:00] | [Elvis]: | lol |
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| [15:27:00] | Beirdo: | rhendershot: nah, nuvexport is a CLI program with menus and stuff |
| [15:27:00] | [Elvis]: | yeah..you don't have that shit...that's right |
| [15:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | [Elvis]: Most of those come from zap2it and the localcable provider puts them on a channel/guide |
| [15:27:00] | Beirdo: | Oh, I can get it, [Elvis]. but I have to find a dutch grocer first |
| [15:27:00] | [Elvis]: | yeah..I really liked it.. |
| [15:27:00] | [Elvis]: | :P |
| [15:27:00] | [Elvis]: | well you guys have these mints which are really good |
| [15:27:00] | [Elvis]: | they don't have them here.. |
| [15:28:00] | [Elvis]: | forgot the name for them.. |
| [15:28:00] | [Elvis]: | nad mountain dew |
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| [15:28:00] | [Elvis]: | :p |
| [15:28:00] | Beirdo: | US mountain dew is different from Canada's |
| [15:28:00] | Beirdo: | we get screwed, no caffeine |
| [15:29:00] | Beirdo: | but they put out a new product here which is basically the same as US mountain dew, forget the name |
| [15:29:00] | specialsauce: | hey all. I am new to myth and have a happauge pvr-250. I have been using slackware for a while and wanted to build a myth box. Is slackware a good distro to run myth off of? or would I be better of installing mythdora or installing myth within gentoo? |
| [15:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | specialsauce: Whatever distro you are most familiar with is usually tyhe best choice |
| [15:30:00] | Beirdo: | you're best off using what you are comfortable with |
| [15:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | I personally use Slackware |
| [15:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | Myth really doesn't care as longas the right software(and versions) is available to it |
| [15:30:00] | Beirdo: | that way you aren't begging for distro support as well as myth support :) |
| [15:31:00] | specialsauce: | Alrighty, I attempted it a while ago in slack and got it to kind of work but my card just outputted a snowy picture and I could never get it figured out, so I went back to a windows pvr. |
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| [15:31:00] | Beirdo: | heh, that's not distro-specific though |
| [15:32:00] | specialsauce: | yeah..but I had other problems compiling that I had to work out, and I did not know if the picture was a result of something not compiling right |
| [15:36:00] | specialsauce: | If you have a hd-3000 card, is that basically for over the air hdtv? or will it work well with a hd cable box? |
| [15:36:00] | rhendershot: | specialsauce I'm a bit of a noob but IIRC there're some diagnostic tools with IVTV driver. if you get snow from them then that's a driver issue. I use 'mplayer /dev/video0' to watch TV outside of MythTV. |
| [15:38:00] | specialsauce: | rhendershot, yeah, I did that and I would get an image but I would get one channel with a ghost image of a second channel in there |
| [15:38:00] | rhendershot: | I seem to remember seeing some posts about a ghosting problem but can't remember what it was about. |
| [15:39:00] | rhendershot: | if you capture to a fiile from your video device, it has this ghosting? |
| [15:40:00] | specialsauce: | I remember better now, when I would watch it through myth, no matter what channel I turned to I would only see one channel with the ghosting of another channel |
| [15:40:00] | specialsauce: | never really a clear picture at all though |
| [15:41:00] | rhendershot: | k well, still, if the ivtv utils or direct capture work and myth not then something with myth. otherwise sounds like ivtv setup. or maybe even a bad card |
| [15:42:00] | specialsauce: | the card works fine under windows, I more then likely screwed something up during install |
| [15:42:00] | specialsauce: | I guess I just need to give in and get a designated computer to run my pvr from |
| [15:43:00] | rhendershot: | yeah probably. there's some minimal chance that something that is normally defaulted with the card is not being explicitely set from ivtv and windows knows about this and sets it... definately a stretch |
| [15:44:00] | specialsauce: | yup, it is a pvr-250 and I remember reading that they usually work with myth |
| [15:46:00] | rhendershot: | I run myth front and backends from my main workstation and it's worked fine so long as I don't try to write to DVD while recording while demuxing. well, I can do that, but then launching applications is a bit impacted ;) |
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| [15:47:00] | rhendershot: | AFAIK myth only cares that it gets a reasonable stream. |
| [15:47:00] | rhendershot: | windows has a different driver so I'd still start there. |
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| [15:49:00] | specialsauce: | yeah...I remember using the windows driver to get it working in slack |
| [15:50:00] | rhendershot: | yeah. the repositories available to fedora provide that now. no longer have to copy from the dist CD and extract. I don't know how that stands for slackware tho |
| [15:50:00] | specialsauce: | you said you use a myth server and output it to other myth clients on your network? |
| [15:50:00] | ** Beirdo is in a Megadeth mood ** | |
| [15:51:00] | ** stuarta needs beer ** | |
| [15:52:00] | rhendershot: | no. all on one machine. I intend to hook up my MediaMVP box upstairs for night time watching of recordings... but I still convert recordings to DVD and sneaker-net them upstairs |
| [15:52:00] | ** rhendershot gives stuarta a beer ** | |
| [15:52:00] | stuarta: | thanks |
| [15:52:00] | ** Beirdo shakes a beer and lobs it to stuarta ** | |
| [15:52:00] | stuarta: | damn now I'm double parked, must drink one. |
| [15:52:00] | ** Beirdo then hands stuarta a baseball bat :) ** | |
| [15:52:00] | ** rhendershot turns up the volume so Megadeth sounds ok ** | |
| [15:53:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [15:53:00] | Beirdo: | Megadeth *always* sounds good, but sounds best at concert volume |
| [15:53:00] | ** rhendershot thinks concert volume is "ok" ** | |
| [15:53:00] | Beirdo: | aka FRIGGING LOUD! |
| [15:53:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [15:53:00] | rhendershot: | lol |
| [15:54:00] | Beirdo: | if you can't feel the bass, it's too quiet |
| [15:54:00] | stuarta: | then you can feel the music, much better... |
| [15:54:00] | Beirdo: | I really enjoyed the concert I went to... |
| [15:54:00] | Beirdo: | jeez, about a year ago?! |
| [15:54:00] | Beirdo: | almost.. April or so 2005 I think |
| [15:55:00] | rhendershot: | I love those real low end moog pedals |
| [15:55:00] | Beirdo: | it was good to see Mustaine back in action :) |
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| [15:58:00] | confusi0n: | my eyes are dim i cannot see |
| [15:58:00] | Merlin83b: | My ears ar old and bent. |
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| [15:59:00] | Beirdo: | surprisingly, I didn't need earplugs either. |
| [16:00:00] | ** Beirdo is a strong believer in maintaining whatever hearing he has left ** | |
| [16:00:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [16:01:00] | confusi0n: | hearing is for wimps |
| [16:02:00] | rhendershot: | dude. hearing is for wimps. we TYPE everything that matters |
| [16:02:00] | rhendershot: | oh someone already said that. sorry!~ |
| [16:02:00] | Beirdo: | I can't type music into my ears :) |
| [16:02:00] | rhendershot: | lol |
| [16:03:00] | rhendershot: | not yet |
| [16:04:00] | Beirdo: | I wonder how many coworkers I'm blessing with Megadeth? :) |
| [16:04:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [16:04:00] | Beirdo: | who cares? :) |
| [16:04:00] | rhendershot: | work is for wimps too |
| [16:04:00] | rhendershot: | said by recently unemployed |
| [16:04:00] | Arkkis: | hey, if I want to change the recordings dir to another location, is it enough if I change it in the configs and copy the files, or do I need to edit the db too? |
| [16:06:00] | rhendershot: | so nuv is mpeg-2 right? I wonder if my dvd player would understand it if it had the right file extension. it deals ok with avi and such on data dvd... |
| [16:07:00] | Arkkis: | rhendershot, you could convert .nuv files to .avi |
| [16:07:00] | Merlin83b: | rhendershot: nuv is whatever you told mythtv to make it :-) |
| [16:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | rhendershot: Well no and yes |
| [16:07:00] | rhendershot: | overload |
| [16:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | a nuv recorded from a PVR cards is a mpeg23 |
| [16:07:00] | Merlin83b: | Or DVB... |
| [16:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | but from asoftware card it will be rtjpeg or mpeg44 |
| [16:09:00] | rhendershot: | can I configure myth to captuer from pvr350 as something my dvd player would understand? |
| [16:09:00] | rhendershot: | instead of nuv? |
| [16:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | Are we not being clear ? |
| [16:09:00] | rhendershot: | sorry for the noob questions |
| [16:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | IF IT"S RECORDING FROM A PVR CARD IT IS A MPEG FILE, regardless of the file extension name |
| [16:09:00] | rhendershot: | I'm sure you are |
| [16:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | just rename it to .mpg and you are good |
| [16:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | Now if you have a DVD player that is a media player then you could likely just burn and play the mpg. If it's a regular DVD player you might have to convert it to a proper dvd resolution and file structure with some app |
| [16:11:00] | Merlin83b: | We need some bot to kick on \Wn[o0][o0]b\W |
| [16:11:00] | rhendershot: | I tried that last evening. dam recording left the video structure. so it probably would have worked. cool. again, sorry. I haven't learned all the various mpeg and whatever |
| [16:11:00] | rhendershot: | pls dont kick me |
| [16:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | rhendershot: You wont be kickd :) |
| [16:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | I just don't like repeating myself :) |
| [16:14:00] | rhendershot: | I didn't know what mpeg23 was. thought at first it was a type |
| [16:14:00] | rhendershot: | typo |
| [16:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | it was, the 3 was a typo |
| [16:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | it should have said mpeg2 |
| [16:14:00] | rhendershot: | ahhh |
| [16:16:00] | rhendershot: | well, I think my player will handle mpeg2. if the writing had not errored out (probably trying to clear the old stuff on the dvd+rw) I probably wouldnt even be here today |
| [16:16:00] | rhendershot: | tho, it's been fun so I'm rather glad of it |
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| [16:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | DVD's are MPEG2, but you might have to convert the file to a DVD format, but that is dependant on your place |
| [16:17:00] | [Elvis]: | and dvd player |
| [16:17:00] | [Elvis]: | :P |
| [16:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah |
| [16:17:00] | rhendershot: | :) |
| [16:17:00] | Beirdo: | beer me! |
| [16:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | I love my player, it plays everything I've thrown at it |
| [16:17:00] | ** rhendershot hands Beirdo a beer and a Kansas CD ** | |
| [16:17:00] | Beirdo: | cfengine is about to get my size 12.5s right up its arse |
| [16:18:00] | Beirdo: | Oooh, Kansas |
| [16:18:00] | Beirdo: | thanks, dude |
| [16:18:00] | ** stuarta cracks a cold and hands it to beirdo ** | |
| [16:18:00] | stuarta: | s/cold/coldie |
| [16:18:00] | Beirdo: | thank ye :) |
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| [16:18:00] | ** rhendershot didn't expect the cd to be a coaster ;) ** | |
| [16:18:00] | Beirdo: | I *like* Kansas, BTW :) |
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| [16:19:00] | rhendershot: | saw them live in Mt Pleasant IA a couple years ago |
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| [16:20:00] | Beirdo: | nice |
| [16:20:00] | [Elvis]: | GreyFoxx does it take divx? |
| [16:20:00] | Beirdo: | who's the current front-man? |
| [16:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | [Elvis]: Yes |
| [16:21:00] | rhendershot: | the fiddle player. not the original. |
| [16:21:00] | juski: | hmm.. homeski..? yup.. laters, all |
| [16:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | divx, xvid, mpeg* jpg, wmv, etc etc |
| [16:21:00] | Beirdo: | I liked some of John Elefante's stuff, but he moved on to do production with his brother Dino |
| [16:21:00] | [Elvis]: | :P |
| [16:21:00] | [Elvis]: | GreyFoxx I also have some like 50 dollar player which does it.. |
| [16:21:00] | [Elvis]: | but sometimes the sound laggs behind |
| [16:21:00] | Beirdo: | they produced much of Petra's stuff in the late 80s, early 90s |
| [16:21:00] | [Elvis]: | :P |
| [16:21:00] | Beirdo: | Pakaderm Studios |
| [16:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | Elvs: Unfortunately AVI's such when it comes to AV sync , but some players are better at maintaining it than others |
| [16:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | Though 99% of what gets played ono my DVD player is just DVDs :) |
| [16:22:00] | [Elvis]: | :P |
| [16:22:00] | Beirdo: | actually, much of the Christian hard rock of that era was produced by them :) |
| [16:22:00] | [Elvis]: | well I only bought that player for divx |
| [16:22:00] | [Elvis]: | we got a good player for dvd's.. |
| [16:22:00] | [Elvis]: | since we wanted 7.1 support |
| [16:23:00] | rhendershot: | they played 'too loud' so the Threshers Reuinion committee never wants them back. My kid and his friend became Kansas fans though. I guess now that I think on it it was more than a couple. um, about 4 years or 5 |
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| [16:25:00] | rhendershot: | what ever happened with Petra? |
| [16:26:00] | Beirdo: | they are still around |
| [16:26:00] | Beirdo: | Bob Hartman's back in the band (much missed by many fans) |
| [16:26:00] | Beirdo: | his guitar work kinda made the sound |
| [16:27:00] | Beirdo: | as soon as this CD's done, I'm gonna switch to Petra :) |
| [16:27:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [16:28:00] | rhendershot: | :) |
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| [16:31:00] | rhendershot: | Beirdo You might like Abrahams Axe. indie band. |
| [16:31:00] | Beirdo: | likely so :) |
| [16:31:00] | Beirdo: | OK, it's Petra time |
| [16:31:00] | Beirdo: | the latest album is Jekyll & Hyde |
| [16:31:00] | [Elvis]: | ahhhh |
| [16:31:00] | ** rhendershot dials to the stream.............. ** | |
| [16:31:00] | [Elvis]: | my card has arriveddddddddd |
| [16:31:00] | [Elvis]: | at lasttttttt |
| [16:31:00] | [Elvis]: | :P |
| [16:32:00] | Beirdo: | Bob's playing a custom Les Paul that he built himself with a d-tuner and whammy bar |
| [16:32:00] | rhendershot: | elvis congrats |
| [16:32:00] | [Elvis]: | time to have some fun |
| [16:32:00] | [Elvis]: | :P |
| [16:32:00] | [Elvis]: | thank you |
| [16:32:00] | rhendershot: | I bought a red cherry lp |
| [16:32:00] | Beirdo: | I have a flame maple top one... |
| [16:32:00] | rhendershot: | and warp7 amp |
| [16:32:00] | Beirdo: | but it's at my fiancee's house :) |
| [16:33:00] | Beirdo: | mine's Epiphone LP Custom |
| [16:33:00] | rhendershot: | I suck tho ;) |
| [16:33:00] | Beirdo: | not as bad as I do :) |
| [16:33:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:33:00] | rhendershot: | heh mines genuine Gibson |
| [16:33:00] | stuarta: | at least you guys have decent guitars. |
| [16:33:00] | Beirdo: | but for $430US on a $1200US guitar, screw it |
| [16:34:00] | Beirdo: | ebay sometimes can be sweet |
| [16:34:00] | Beirdo: | the finish is in mint condition |
| [16:34:00] | rhendershot: | sounds awesome |
| [16:34:00] | Beirdo: | and Epiphone is owned by Gibson now anyways, so I don't feel bad |
| [16:34:00] | rhendershot: | yeah. |
| [16:34:00] | Beirdo: | I had a good drool over the ones in the Gibson Showcase/Factory in Nashville |
| [16:35:00] | Beirdo: | my friend who I was with has an LP as well, and he can play OK |
| [16:35:00] | Beirdo: | heavy beasts, but nothing like my bass :) |
| [16:35:00] | rhendershot: | I also got that GNX-3 fx set |
| [16:36:00] | Beirdo: | I need new switch, better pickups (want real Gibson ones, but damn they cost!) |
| [16:37:00] | Beirdo: | pay more for the replacement pickups than the whole guitar |
| [16:37:00] | rhendershot: | we always need better pickups! ;) |
| [16:37:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [16:38:00] | Merlin83b: | I need better fingers. |
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| [16:38:00] | Beirdo: | the stock ones are a bit hot and a bit muddy at the same time |
| [16:38:00] | rhendershot: | yah 200 hz |
| [16:38:00] | Beirdo: | I miss my bass |
| [16:38:00] | Beirdo: | sigh |
| [16:38:00] | Beirdo: | it's at my fiancee's too.. |
| [16:38:00] | Beirdo: | like 2000 miles away |
| [16:39:00] | Merlin83b: | We need a drummer :< |
| [16:39:00] | rhendershot: | I sense a pattern heheh |
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| [16:39:00] | Beirdo: | well, getting married in 4 months |
| [16:40:00] | rhendershot: | I married in 88, separated in 2002 |
| [16:40:00] | Beirdo: | aww |
| [16:40:00] | rhendershot: | not because I suck tho lol |
| [16:40:00] | Beirdo: | still suboptimal |
| [16:41:00] | rhendershot: | we're still friends. actually, in the long view it's probably about as optimal as coulld be. dunno. that's an existentialists question I suppose |
| [16:41:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [16:41:00] | rhendershot: | :) |
| [16:41:00] | EricL: | For some reason, my program listings are four hours off. My clock is right and so is my timezone, does anyone have any ideas on how come its like that? |
| [16:42:00] | rhendershot: | Merlin83b I want better fingers too |
| [16:42:00] | Beirdo: | I want stronger fingers |
| [16:42:00] | rhendershot: | faster fingers |
| [16:42:00] | Beirdo: | haven't practised my bass in over a year |
| [16:42:00] | Beirdo: | my fingers are all soft now :) |
| [16:42:00] | Merlin83b: | EricL: Have you set the xmltv offset at all? If not give it a go. |
| [16:43:00] | Beirdo: | I wanna be able to play old U2 on the bass |
| [16:43:00] | Beirdo: | that's some real cool stuff |
| [16:43:00] | Beirdo: | or some Van Halen. :) |
| [16:43:00] | rhendershot: | our basist had these moog pedals and a long assed fender guitar. he had a cab that had, I think, 18" dual or quad speakers. it was nearly as tall as me |
| [16:43:00] | rhendershot: | it hit some serious low notes |
| [16:43:00] | EricL: | Merlin83b: Nope, I haven't. Is that a Myth TV setting? |
| [16:43:00] | Beirdo: | nice |
| [16:43:00] | Merlin83b: | It is, EricL. |
| [16:43:00] | Merlin83b: | Not sure quite where to fin it though, I'm afraid. |
| [16:43:00] | Beirdo: | I'd like to try a 5-string or 6-string sometime too |
| [16:44:00] | Beirdo: | or a 12-string (for real funkiness) |
| [16:44:00] | Merlin83b: | 6 string bass? Hope you have huge hands. |
| [16:44:00] | Beirdo: | but I think I should try to master the 4 first |
| [16:44:00] | Merlin83b: | Heh, probably a good plan. |
| [16:44:00] | EricL: | Merlin83b: Hmm...Alright, I'll poke around. Thanks for pointing me in the direction. |
| [16:44:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, the 6 is huge :) |
| [16:44:00] | Merlin83b: | It may even be in mythtv-setup EricL. |
| [16:44:00] | Beirdo: | the 12 are cool though, ever listen to old King's X? |
| [16:44:00] | Beirdo: | or Cheap Trick? |
| [16:45:00] | Merlin83b: | Cheap Trick yeah. |
| [16:45:00] | Beirdo: | it's a 4-string with 2 ganged upper octave strings per string |
| [16:45:00] | Beirdo: | when played by someone who knows what they are doing, it sounds real good |
| [16:45:00] | rhendershot: | I saw Cheap Trick in Ohio outdoor |
| [16:45:00] | Merlin83b: | Yeah, it's a cool sound. |
| [16:45:00] | Beirdo: | the bassist in Cheap Trick is one of the pioneers of that instrument |
| [16:46:00] | Beirdo: | and the bassist in King's X is one of the best at it |
| [16:46:00] | Beirdo: | he says there are some of the older songs that they don't require the lead guitar at all |
| [16:46:00] | Beirdo: | and I believe him |
| [16:46:00] | EricL: | Merlin83b: For future reference, you were right, it's in MythTV-setup under general. |
| [16:47:00] | Merlin83b: | :-) |
| [16:47:00] | Beirdo: | having seen them in concert (and have the signed album to prove it)... King's X really impresses me |
| [16:48:00] | Beirdo: | 3 guys... drums, bass, guitar |
| [16:48:00] | Beirdo: | and it sounds way huger.. |
| [16:49:00] | Beirdo: | and the 4-string is tuned down like a tone on all strings or something like that |
| [16:49:00] | EricL: | Merlin83b: I don't know how to check if it solves the problem, but that's where it is. |
| [16:49:00] | Beirdo: | and fret buzz is part of the sound :) |
| [16:51:00] | Merlin83b: | EricL: Have a look at your program listings, at a guess! |
| [16:52:00] | EricL: | Merlin83b: I did and it didn't change anything. So I just delted every line in the program table in mysql and am refilling the db since I made the change to see what happens. |
| [16:52:00] | Merlin83b: | Fair enough. |
| [16:53:00] | ** Beirdo listens to some King's X while he waits for cfengine to f'ing die while he runs it in debug mode ** | |
| [16:54:00] | Beirdo: | random failures so suck |
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| [16:55:00] | rhendershot: | I cant believe that 160GB drive for video is too small. sigh |
| [16:56:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [16:56:00] | Beirdo: | I have a hard time staying below 300G |
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| [16:56:00] | Merlin83b: | If SVN fixes the problem I'm having then I will build a box with at least one 400GB drive in for starters. |
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| [16:56:00] | Merlin83b: | I'll probably end up LVMing another onto the end of it at some point :-) |
| [16:57:00] | rhendershot: | I have a firewire card and the pvr card in a dell dimension 2400n. I'm *seriously* afraid the power supply is going to crap out! |
| [16:57:00] | Beirdo: | LVM is fun |
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| [16:58:00] | rhendershot: | LVM is useful. but fun? |
| [16:58:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [16:59:00] | rhendershot: | k |
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| [16:59:00] | EricL: | Merlin83b: Nope, it didn't work. |
| [17:00:00] | Merlin83b: | Then I'm out of idea EricL, sorry :-( |
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| [17:02:00] | EricL: | No problem. |
| [17:03:00] | EricL: | I'll ask again in a while and see if anyone else has the answer, I have been googling unsuccessfully for a while on this. |
| [17:03:00] | rhendershot: | eric whats the question? |
| [17:04:00] | rhendershot: | EricL whats the question? |
| [17:06:00] | EricL: | For some reason, my program listings are five hours off (and I am GMT -5). My clock is right and so is my timezone, does anyone have any ideas on how come its like that? |
| [17:08:00] | rhendershot: | what about settings for xmltv ? |
| [17:08:00] | Kelerion: | GreyFoxx: could you do me a favor and post your mx440 xorg.conf? am having trouble with mine and comparing might help |
| [17:08:00] | EricL: | I just changed them to -5 and it didn't do anything. |
| [17:08:00] | rhendershot: | IIRC you have to set your timezone there too |
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| [17:09:00] | EricL: | That's what I meant, I just set my timezone in mythtv to adjust xmltv for -5 hours. |
| [17:09:00] | xris: | EricL: there's a setting for that within myth |
| [17:10:00] | xris: | xmltv time offset or something like that |
| [17:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kelerion: Already done |
| [17:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | www.phaze.org/mythtv |
| [17:10:00] | EricL: | xris: Yep, I just set it to -5 in mythtv, is there a different place that I need to set it? |
| [17:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | it's in there |
| [17:10:00] | xris: | EricL: you said "timezone".. thought you changed the clock on your computer. |
| [17:11:00] | EricL: | Nope, the clock on my computer is already set properly. |
| [17:11:00] | Kelerion: | got it.. thanks |
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| [17:14:00] | rhendershot: | EricL I mean you have a subcription to the service (I'm having a brain cramp – forgetting the name) but you set your timezone on that site I think. |
| [17:14:00] | EricL: | rhendershot: Zap2it |
| [17:14:00] | rhendershot: | I imagine they send data offset per your setup. |
| [17:14:00] | rhendershot: | right |
| [17:16:00] | rhendershot: | brb |
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| [17:16:00] | EricL: | They dont' have a section for setting my local timezone. |
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| [17:19:00] | EricL: | I have been googling and haven't really come up with anything. |
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| [17:22:00] | Beirdo: | you sure your timezone is set right? |
| [17:22:00] | Beirdo: | ie do you store your clock in UTC or local? |
| [17:22:00] | Beirdo: | it might be related |
| [17:23:00] | EricL: | I store it as local. |
| [17:24:00] | Beirdo: | and 'date' shows the right timezone? |
| [17:25:00] | EricL: | Beirdo: Good call, for some reason when I upgraded from Sarge to etch, it changed my time to UTC. |
| [17:25:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [17:25:00] | Beirdo: | that's likely the issue |
| [17:25:00] | Beirdo: | try changing it and restarting the backend, see how that goes |
| [17:25:00] | EricL: | It didn't fix the problem. But its nice to have that correct. |
| [17:25:00] | EricL: | Oh, let me restart the backend. |
| [17:25:00] | Beirdo: | well, you do need to restart the backend :) |
| [17:26:00] | EricL: | I just restarted the backend and it still didnt' fix it. |
| [17:27:00] | Beirdo: | you may need to dump the program info and rerun mythfilldatabase |
| [17:27:00] | Beirdo: | not sure when it takes care of the timezone info |
| [17:27:00] | EricL: | Beirdo: Roger, let me give it a shot. |
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| [17:28:00] | thaJeepJerk: | hello all |
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| [17:31:00] | thaJeepJerk: | Can someone help me with an SVN compile issue? I'm trying to figure out why its looking for libstdc++.so.6. http://pastebin.ca/36701 |
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| [17:34:00] | thaJeepJerk: | actually this might help more since it shows my libraries http://pastebin.ca/36702 |
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| [18:34:00] | dasOp: | is there a 'recommended' osx binary to use? |
| [18:36:00] | kormoc: | I would recommend one that works, but that's just me |
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| [18:37:00] | xris: | dasOp: didn'tknow there was more than one |
| [18:37:00] | xris: | really should get an official one and link it from the downloads page. |
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| [18:45:00] | dasOp: | the one being the one dsnider packages? |
| [18:47:00] | dasOp: | I'm not getting any osd at all |
| [18:47:00] | Rule: | Hello all. Can someone please clarify if its possible to use a different programinformation source for my DVB channels that do not have EIT entries ? (I think I would have to change sourceid and xmltvid, while setting useonairguide to 0). |
| [18:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | You would have to check and see if there is an xmltv grabber for your country/area |
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| [18:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | I would imagine there is |
| [18:52:00] | Rule: | yes there is |
| [18:52:00] | fryfrog: | anyone using an air2pc hd5000 w/ 2.6.14 kernel? |
| [18:52:00] | Rule: | I guess Im wondering if changing the sourceid is ok ... |
| [18:52:00] | fryfrog: | is the built in kernel FE the rigth one for it? |
| [18:52:00] | Rule: | I think it only has to do with the program info, right ? |
| [18:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | why change source id? you can mix eit and an external grabber in one video source |
| [18:53:00] | Rule: | oh ? |
| [18:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | Sure |
| [18:53:00] | Rule: | I made a second source with EITonly... |
| [18:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | No need to do that |
| [18:54:00] | Rule: | hangon let me check the gui of mythtv-setup again |
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| [18:54:00] | Rule: | In fact, is there a reason to have 2 entries in the DB for channels that exist in digital and analog ? |
| [18:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | well if you have 2 cards connected to 2 physical sources (1 analog cable and 1 dvb or digital cable) then yes |
| [18:55:00] | Rule: | that's what I have |
| [18:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | if you didn't have a record of what channel is on each card how would myth know ?:) |
| [18:56:00] | Rule: | so I can just select the "perform eit scan" for the grab source ? |
| [18:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | running SVN ? |
| [18:56:00] | Rule: | yes |
| [18:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | Yes |
| [18:56:00] | Rule: | but then what is the behaviour ? |
| [18:57:00] | Rule: | one overrides the other ? |
| [18:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
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| [18:57:00] | Rule: | hmm |
| [18:57:00] | Beirdo: | MythLogBot: help |
| [18:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythfilldatabase downloads via the grabbber your listings |
| [18:57:00] | Rule: | yep that works for analog now |
| [18:57:00] | Beirdo: | OK, the bot lived through the routing fubar |
| [18:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | and the EIT will update channels with no program info and overright/update listings that have changed |
| [18:57:00] | Rule: | hmm but they will always differ |
| [18:58:00] | Merlin83a: | Dumdedum. Waiting for my Epia to compile mythplugins |
| [18:58:00] | Rule: | the online xmltv grabber contains more data |
| [18:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | the EIT will only update enteres for the video source it is connected too |
| [18:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | rule then you can only set it to update channels that get no guide data at all, or where you want to have it update based on the eit |
| [18:58:00] | Rule: | yes but I dont know how |
| [18:59:00] | Rule: | how to go to the channel level |
| [18:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | turn off useonairguide for every channel that you DON'T want updated |
| [18:59:00] | Rule: | this settings looks source-global |
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| [18:59:00] | Rule: | yes true |
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| [18:59:00] | Rule: | so I still have to create 2 sources.... |
| [19:00:00] | Rule: | one for analog and one for digital, only the digital one has scan for EIT selected |
| [19:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | sounds right |
| [19:00:00] | Rule: | very nice |
| [19:01:00] | Rule: | if a channel has no EIT entry, it will not be updated even if useonairguide is set I'm guessing ? |
| [19:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [19:02:00] | Rule: | ok cool, I must pay attention to disable the useonairguide for the channels that get the "no EPG for this channel" :) |
| [19:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [19:04:00] | Rule: | hmm but it will now grab data for the channels even if I only want the EIT data |
| [19:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | the EIT data will end up overwriting the grabbed info if the EIT data is different |
| [19:05:00] | Rule: | true but the intenet traffic is still there |
| [19:05:00] | Rule: | minor tho |
| [19:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | A couple k should not be a concern |
| [19:05:00] | Rule: | oh I had 1 more little question |
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| [19:06:00] | Rule: | I thouyght myth now sheduled the tv_grabs itself as a job |
| [19:06:00] | Rule: | but I cant find where and it seems not to be done |
| [19:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | If you enable it |
| [19:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's a setting, I just don't remember where |
| [19:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | I do it via a cronjob |
| [19:06:00] | Rule: | me neither :( |
| [19:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | either's either mythtv-setup or mythfrontend |
| [19:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | Only a limited set of places to look :) |
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| [19:07:00] | Rule: | what I thought :/ |
| [19:08:00] | Rule: | seems EIT data also works nicely on my DVB radio channels, hurrah |
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| [19:10:00] | yaaar: | hey guys...just looking for some hardware recommendations... |
| [19:10:00] | Rule: | a hammer is always useful |
| [19:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | lol |
| [19:10:00] | yaaar: | i'm thinking of getting a pcHDTV 3000 for OTA (and maybe cable, but i doubt it) broadcasts... |
| [19:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | I was LITERALLY typing that |
| [19:10:00] | Rule: | hehe |
| [19:10:00] | Rule: | gmta |
| [19:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | "I like hammers myself": |
| [19:10:00] | yaaar: | but i hear the NTSC side isn't that great |
| [19:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | hehe |
| [19:11:00] | Beirdo: | #2 Phillips screwdriver |
| [19:11:00] | Beirdo: | a necessity of life |
| [19:11:00] | yaaar: | yeah, already stocked up on tools. just need some tuners now ;-) |
| [19:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | yaar: well It's a framegrabber for analog cable, no idea about picture quality |
| [19:11:00] | kormoc: | GreyFoxx, Beirdo, you both know the way of the hammer? |
| [19:11:00] | ** GreyFoxx knows thew way of the LART ** | |
| [19:11:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | I keep one at my desk |
| [19:11:00] | Beirdo: | I prefer hockey sticks |
| [19:11:00] | yaaar: | GreyFoxx: so, is it worth it to me to have an NTSC card that actually does encoding? |
| [19:11:00] | Rule: | a LART ? |
| [19:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | yaaar: Very worth it in my opinion |
| [19:12:00] | yaaar: | GreyFoxx: is it fairly simple to setup myth with 2 cards, one for hd and one for ntsc? |
| [19:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | Rule: [L]user [A]ttitude [R]e-adjustment [T]ool |
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| [19:12:00] | Rule: | yeah I know, just wondering if you would keep one on your desk |
| [19:12:00] | kormoc: | tis just the last BOFH story had about the way of the hammer, it was amusing |
| [19:13:00] | Rule: | mine all consist of software :P |
| [19:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | yaar: Simple for the analog stuff, no idea about the pchdtv itself as I don't have one |
| [19:13:00] | Rule: | no idea about all that US ATSC etc stuff, sorry |
| [19:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | Rule: Hehe I use to keep a sledge hammer next to my desk labeled "LART/Complaint Dept" |
| [19:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | but now I have a whip labeled lart |
| [19:13:00] | Rule: | hehe |
| [19:14:00] | Rule: | hmm seems to me the themes are scaled from 1024 or so, looks bad at 1920 :) |
| [19:14:00] | yaaar: | GreyFoxx: you have a recommendation on a good encoding ntsc card for reasonably cheap? |
| [19:14:00] | Juski: | found out... pvr150 driver does scaling... changed my livetv from the default profile to 720x576.. massive difference in quality :-) |
| [19:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | the native myth res is 800x600 |
| [19:15:00] | yaaar: | myth has a native res? |
| [19:15:00] | Juski: | Rule: 16:9 themes would be scaled from 1280x720 |
| [19:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | Yaar: the pvr150 is likely your best bet. Does hardware encoding and is fairly cheap |
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| [19:15:00] | laga: | Juski: what was the resolution before? |
| [19:15:00] | Juski: | 480x480 |
| [19:15:00] | yaaar: | GreyFoxx: cool, thanks. |
| [19:15:00] | laga: | Juski: oh, k |
| [19:15:00] | Juski: | looked a bit like VHS.. now it's much, much better |
| [19:16:00] | Juski: | well.. more like SVHS.. VHS without so much of the colour registration problems ;) |
| [19:16:00] | Rule: | yes all my PVR cards are set to 720x576 |
| [19:16:00] | yaaar: | about this native res business....i'm looking to run this on my projector, which can support 800x600 but is native 1024x768....i'd definitely like to run it at the higher res if possible.... |
| [19:16:00] | Juski: | Rule: 720x576 for PAL, 720x480 for NTSC |
| [19:16:00] | yaaar: | is that going to cause any trouble? |
| [19:16:00] | Rule: | yep |
| [19:16:00] | Rule: | all mine are PAL :P |
| [19:16:00] | Juski: | yaaar: no it won't be any trouble |
| [19:16:00] | yaaar: | k, just making sure... |
| [19:16:00] | Juski: | it's just that mythtv scales the themes to fit your screen |
| [19:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | yaaar: You can run X at any res you like |
| [19:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | it will get scaled up |
| [19:17:00] | yaaar: | cool. |
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| [19:18:00] | Rule: | OOoh I found the mythfilldatabase setting |
| [19:18:00] | ** Beirdo pokes MythLogBot ** | |
| [19:18:00] | Beirdo: | MythLogBot: help |
| [19:18:00] | Juski: | I anti-aliased all the graphics in my themes, so they don't look 'jaggy' |
| [19:18:00] | Beirdo: | wow, he's alive |
| [19:19:00] | Beirdo: | my linode's having some interesting routing fun today |
| [19:19:00] | Rule: | Ok, now where will the mythfilldatabase run ? which backend ? |
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| [19:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | master |
| [19:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | if you havemultiple |
| [19:20:00] | Rule: | even if set in a secondary frontend ? cool |
| [19:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | yup |
| [19:20:00] | Rule: | just making sure |
| [19:20:00] | Rule: | firewall rules and all that |
| [19:21:00] | Rule: | When I sent my patch for my grabbers to myth, I remember I could add the update functionality where it just re-grabs one day. I still dont know what thats used for though |
| [19:22:00] | Juski: | useful if the data provider has changed its data for any reason.. like a show being re-scheduled |
| [19:22:00] | Rule: | thats what I thought. update the current day only, right ? |
| [19:23:00] | Juski: | yeh – can't remember the exact command though |
| [19:23:00] | Rule: | but it only runs when defined in that "autmatically run mythfilldatabase" setting... |
| [19:23:00] | Rule: | oh you need to do it manually ? |
| [19:23:00] | Juski: | does it? I thought you could do it from the command line too |
| [19:23:00] | Rule: | yes you can |
| [19:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | no |
| [19:23:00] | Rule: | but I now enabled it for myth itself |
| [19:23:00] | Rule: | s/for/from |
| [19:23:00] | Juski: | ah well.. |
| [19:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythfilledatabase by default will update tomorrow and at the end of the range it can get (10–12 days for some places) |
| [19:24:00] | Rule: | gui and all that ;) |
| [19:24:00] | Rule: | oh tomorrow ? |
| [19:24:00] | Juski: | anyway time to put the backend's side back on & put it back in its cubby |
| [19:24:00] | Rule: | so no last minute changes :/ |
| [19:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm pretty sure |
| [19:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | last minute changes are rare |
| [19:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | but just run it and you will see the output |
| [19:24:00] | Rule: | well same-day last minute type ;) |
| [19:24:00] | Rule: | yeah just working out if I will still ahve to do cron |
| [19:25:00] | Rule: | preparing a nice standard setup (plus understanding it), so I can install it at various 'sites' |
| [19:26:00] | Rule: | oh I just thought of something... with the 2 sources defined that are basically the same, it will download the same data twice ? |
| [19:27:00] | Rule: | and one of them will be largely overwritten with EIT data :/ |
| [19:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | yup |
| [19:27:00] | Rule: | cant I just use the same source for the analog part, or with the "scan for EIT" mess that up ? |
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| [19:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | No, you cannot unless you want to manually hack something up |
| [19:28:00] | Rule: | you mean the EIT thing will cause trouble ? |
| [19:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | Different channels are available to each of your inputs right ? |
| [19:28:00] | Rule: | well not really |
| [19:28:00] | Rule: | all the analog ones are in digital too |
| [19:28:00] | Rule: | digital just has extra channels |
| [19:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | Then different channels are available to each |
| [19:29:00] | Rule: | true |
| [19:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | use 2 sources |
| [19:30:00] | ** Rule launches mythfilldatabase manually ** | |
| [19:30:00] | Rule: | it will now grab all days it seems |
| [19:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | the first time it will |
| [19:30:00] | Rule: | but this is the same command that myth will execure |
| [19:30:00] | ** Beirdo launches a harddrive into outer space ** | |
| [19:30:00] | Beirdo: | there |
| [19:31:00] | Rule: | I suppose its smart about it, not looked at the code |
| [19:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | Rule it's smart enough to look and see if there is future data in your programs table. If there isn't it will try to fill it in |
| [19:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | so the first time it downloads all days available |
| [19:31:00] | Rule: | there already was some data from a previous try |
| [19:32:00] | Rule: | but there were now only 2 days left, still it grabs all :/ |
| [19:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | Why is that a problem ? |
| [19:32:00] | Rule: | whenever it misses an update, say 1 day it fails, it will get a full grab the next day ? |
| [19:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | no |
| [19:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | it will fill in missing days |
| [19:33:00] | Merlin83a: | Oh dear, SVN broke my myth box :< |
| [19:34:00] | ** Merlin83a goes looking in the mailing lists. ** | |
| [19:34:00] | Rule: | but thats not something I remember putting in the myth patch :/ it should use grab arguments --offset and --days then |
| [19:34:00] | Rule: | its been too long since I created that, Ill just go look at the code |
| [19:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | Rule: I have no idea about your patch or what it covered |
| [19:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | but myth will not regrab ALL of the data just because it misses and update 1day |
| [19:35:00] | Rule: | cool |
| [19:35:00] | Rule: | yep it uses an offset |
| [19:36:00] | Rule: | the argument is xmltv "standard" so I didnt have to define it |
| [19:36:00] | fryfrog: | "b2c2-flexcop: no frontend driver found for this B2C2/FlexCop adapter" |
| [19:36:00] | Rule: | how welcome would a patch be to implement channel data that is not defined in xmltv 0.5 format yet ? |
| [19:36:00] | Rule: | fryfrog: pcid ? |
| [19:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | Rule: no idea :) |
| [19:37:00] | Rule: | I implemented it in the grabber already |
| [19:37:00] | fryfrog: | but i'll be damned if i con't have the FE that it wants compiled in :/ |
| [19:37:00] | fryfrog: | pcid? |
| [19:37:00] | Rule: | grabs star rating, director, etc |
| [19:37:00] | Rule: | fryfrog: lspci -n |
| [19:37:00] | fryfrog: | 01:07.0 Network controller: Techsan Electronics Co Ltd B2C2 FlexCopII DVB chip / Technisat SkyStar2 DVB card (rev 02) |
| [19:37:00] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [19:38:00] | fryfrog: | 01:07.0 0280: 13d0:2103 (rev 02) |
| [19:38:00] | fryfrog: | I had it working in another pc, but i might have been using 2.6.14 |
| [19:38:00] | fryfrog: | er, .13 |
| [19:39:00] | fryfrog: | now i am using 2.6.14, i've tried w/o the dvb-kernel (from cvs), w/ it, w/ the hd5000.patch and also with the hd5000-cleanup.patch (and various combination) |
| [19:39:00] | Juski: | Merlin83b: what do you mean, 'broke' ? |
| [19:39:00] | fryfrog: | i just can't get the damn thing to see that I *have* the front end module it wants :/ |
| [19:39:00] | Merlin83a: | Juski: http://pastebin.com/504388 |
| [19:39:00] | Merlin83a: | That's from the frontend. |
| [19:40:00] | Rule: | fryfrog: that pciid is in the v4l tree, probably is .15 or earlier |
| [19:40:00] | Juski: | Merlin83a: that's not good |
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| [19:40:00] | fryfrog: | what do you mean? |
| [19:40:00] | fryfrog: | that air2pc card moved to v4l? |
| [19:40:00] | Rule: | well it should detect the card |
| [19:40:00] | Merlin83a: | Agreed, Juski! |
| [19:40:00] | Rule: | no its in the driver |
| [19:40:00] | fryfrog: | I *know* I was using dvb previously, its an air2pc hd5000 |
| [19:40:00] | Merlin83a: | SVN 8577, checkout from yesterday. |
| [19:41:00] | Merlin83a: | Sits there and repeats that last errir indefinitely. |
| [19:41:00] | Juski: | Merlin83b: I thought you said XvMC wasn't working on your system.. try changing the preference to 'default' or libmpeg |
| [19:41:00] | Rule: | fryfrog: yep, but I cant tell you when it was added, you'll have to check yourself :) |
| [19:41:00] | Merlin83a: | XvMC has always worked for me. |
| [19:41:00] | Rule: | safe to try the latest :) |
| [19:41:00] | fryfrog: | okay, i'm looking in v4l :) |
| [19:41:00] | fryfrog: | it *is* still in dvb though |
| [19:41:00] | Rule: | its all been merged in .15 |
| [19:41:00] | Merlin83a: | It was one possible culprit for the problems but got ruled out when logs said it was working. |
| [19:41:00] | Juski: | Merlin83a: try changing it anyway – see if you get any change |
| [19:41:00] | Rule: | yeah v4l and dvb merged trees |
| [19:41:00] | fryfrog: | <M> Technisat/B2C2 FlexCopII(b) and FlexCopIII adapters |
| [19:41:00] | Merlin83a: | Will do, give me a tick... |
| [19:41:00] | fryfrog: | oh |
| [19:42:00] | Rule: | just get a later kernel |
| [19:42:00] | fryfrog: | i can't use 2.6.15 due to ivtv not working with it |
| [19:43:00] | Merlin83a: | No change, Juski. |
| [19:43:00] | Merlin83a: | Changed it so standard rather than Via XvMC and same result. |
| [19:44:00] | fryfrog: | and DVB is still a seperate entry in 2.6.15, so i'm not sure what you are talking about |
| [19:44:00] | Rule: | well if you're sure it worked before, stick with the older one |
| [19:44:00] | Rule: | btw, I have ivtv + .15 running |
| [19:45:00] | fryfrog: | 0.4.1 or 0.4.0? |
| [19:45:00] | Rule: | 0.4.1 |
| [19:45:00] | fryfrog: | i guess i just got lucky :) |
| [19:45:00] | fryfrog: | it wouldn't load firmware for me |
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| [19:45:00] | fryfrog: | and 0.4.0 won't compile in .15 for me |
| [19:45:00] | ** Juski touches wood.. ivtv 0.4.1 has been fine on 2.6.12 for almost 24 hours now ** | |
| [19:45:00] | Merlin83a: | No idea on why it's doing that, Juski? |
| [19:45:00] | Juski: | Merlin83a: :( |
| [19:46:00] | Merlin83a: | :-( |
| [19:46:00] | Merlin83a: | there are some posts about it on the users list but they say it was resolved in December sometime. |
| [19:46:00] | Juski: | Merlin83a: are you using the Via XvMC? for sure? |
| [19:47:00] | Merlin83a: | I just changed it to standard and tried, but have tried it as 'standard' and 'Via XvMC' in Setup/TV Settings/Playback. |
| [19:48:00] | Juski: | Merlin83a: what about making a recording & trying to play it with Xine? |
| [19:48:00] | Juski: | if that works, then you know for definite it's myth related ;) |
| [19:48:00] | Merlin83a: | I can play old recordings from the watch recordings menu. |
| [19:48:00] | Merlin83a: | This thing only happens when I try to watch LiveTV. |
| [19:48:00] | Juski: | ah.. that kinda nails it |
| [19:48:00] | Merlin83a: | As a myth thing? Sounds like it to me. |
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| [19:49:00] | Juski: | LiveTV takes too long to change channels on DVB-T even in SVN, so I'll be continuing to live without it |
| [19:49:00] | Juski: | PVR150 channel changes are a lot better though – take about a second or so |
| [19:50:00] | `shr00m: | anyone use sasc with mythtv b4? |
| [19:50:00] | Juski: | and the vid quality of the 150 card, even over a composite input is comparable to the DVB stuff |
| [19:50:00] | Juski: | what's sasc? |
| [19:50:00] | Merlin83a: | They took a few seconds under .18.1 but I can live with that. |
| [19:50:00] | Merlin83a: | They do on my old freeview box too. |
| [19:51:00] | Merlin83a: | Not quite as slow as myth but not far off. |
| [19:51:00] | Merlin83a: | Juski: Out of ideas I take it? |
| [19:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | Juski: A Softcam patch to make the VDR sc work standalone with myth |
| [19:51:00] | Juski: | Merlin83a: if you backed up your database you can revert to 0.18 :) |
| [19:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | And it's a topic that will not be allowed in here |
| [19:52:00] | Juski: | too damn right, GreyFoxx |
| [19:52:00] | ** Juski stamps on sasc ** | |
| [19:52:00] | Merlin83a: | Juski: See, I backed up just about everything except the database. Whoops. |
| [19:52:00] | Merlin83a: | I will have to mail the list or something. |
| [19:52:00] | Merlin83a: | But for now, pizza has arrived. |
| [19:53:00] | Juski: | you'd be okay if it didn't update the schema column |
| [19:53:00] | Juski: | the older myth would possibly live with the upgraded DB if it wasn't for the version info in it |
| [19:53:00] | `shr00m: | sasc is bad? |
| [19:53:00] | Rule: | Ok nice. mixing EIT and grab data works now |
| [19:53:00] | Rule: | cheers GreyFoxx |
| [19:53:00] | Beirdo: | ?! |
| [19:54:00] | ** Beirdo pokes GreyFoxx with the LART ** | |
| [19:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | `shro: Anything that has to do with decrypting content is not allowed in here |
| [19:54:00] | Beirdo: | and Juski too |
| [19:54:00] | Juski: | ? |
| [19:54:00] | Beirdo: | `shr00m: such nonsense is not welcome here |
| [19:54:00] | Rule: | ? |
| [19:56:00] | `shr00m: | there r legitimate uses, i have a FTA only card |
| [19:56:00] | Juski: | ahhh.. so _that's_ what a LART is |
| [19:56:00] | Beirdo: | I hate my linode today |
| [19:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | `shr00m: Irrelevant, it's not a topic that is welcome here |
| [19:56:00] | Z-Morek: | yeah so anyways, the nub is back... and my lircd is broken.... again |
| [19:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | just like you COULD use bittorrent to download free iso's but we still wont help people integrate a bittorrent client with myth |
| [19:57:00] | `shr00m: | ok i can live with that |
| [19:57:00] | `shr00m: | but do u know where this can be discussed? |
| [19:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | Nope |
| [19:57:00] | Z-Morek: | utfg? |
| [19:57:00] | Juski: | heh.. that'd be right |
| [19:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | definately not the myth mailing lists either |
| [19:58:00] | Z-Morek: | UTFG it is |
| [19:58:00] | `shr00m: | ic |
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| [19:58:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v Beirdo | |
| [19:58:00] | thaJeepJerk: | anyone here building SVN? |
| [19:58:00] | Z-Morek: | there's a myth distro out there knoppmyth |
| [19:58:00] | Z-Morek: | there's quite a forum there |
| [19:58:00] | Juski: | or try the VDR channel & forums |
| [19:59:00] | Juski: | ;) |
| [19:59:00] | Rule: | I could do with the cablecrypt decoder tbh... if only the cablebox had serial connector :/ |
| [20:00:00] | Rule: | ah well. digital will make it better, as long as the CAM works with the card :-) |
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| [20:00:00] | Z-Morek: | okay quick quick quick question |
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| [20:00:00] | Z-Morek: | what's the command that has the console print out exactly what you typed |
| [20:00:00] | Beirdo: | argh! |
| [20:00:00] | Beirdo: | I'm gonna kill |
| [20:01:00] | Z-Morek: | I'm a nub :-( |
| [20:01:00] | `shr00m: | echo ? |
| [20:01:00] | Z-Morek: | thanks |
| [20:01:00] | thaJeepJerk: | my backend had no problem updating to SVN 8306 but my frontemd is complaining about a missing shared object |
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| [20:03:00] | thaJeepJerk: | svn st |
| [20:03:00] | thaJeepJerk: | doh |
| [20:03:00] | Beirdo: | I don't get it |
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| [20:04:00] | Beirdo: | work, damn you |
| [20:04:00] | Beirdo: | 25s lag |
| [20:06:00] | Beirdo: | sigh |
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| [20:07:00] | ** laga installs some nvidia drivers ** | |
| [20:07:00] | laga: | so much fun *sigh* |
| [20:07:00] | Beirdo: | it likes to eat my packets today |
| [20:07:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [20:07:00] | thaJeepJerk: | packet loss or delay? |
| [20:07:00] | Beirdo: | loss |
| [20:07:00] | thaJeepJerk: | just send more ;) |
| [20:07:00] | ** laga blasts some rammstein to scare the binary lkm evilness ** | |
| [20:10:00] | eiggirC: | Hey all. I have a tagged list of recordings – how do I play the whole list? |
| [20:10:00] | eiggirC: | In mythfrontend I tagged them with the / key |
| [20:11:00] | Rule: | GreyFoxx: doh, forgot to set xmltvids, so it added the channels in the DB :) |
| [20:12:00] | Beirdo: | frigging windows-based worms messing up network devices with too much traffic or something |
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| [20:13:00] | Z-Morek: | okay so I upgraded my system using apt-get dist-upgrade |
| [20:13:00] | eiggirC: | Beirdo: so have a private network for your windows machines |
| [20:13:00] | eiggirC: | :) |
| [20:13:00] | Juski: | probably the same people on NTL networks who keep trying to kick the back door of my webserver in |
| [20:14:00] | Z-Morek: | and my lircd is now nonfunctional |
| [20:14:00] | Rule: | Z-Morek: were you running your own compiled version ? |
| [20:14:00] | Juski: | is there a website where you can post rouge IP addresses? like "here they are.. ripe for the taking..." |
| [20:14:00] | Juski: | or even rogue IP addresses |
| [20:14:00] | Rule: | red Ip ? |
| [20:14:00] | Z-Morek: | atrpms compiles |
| [20:14:00] | Rule: | oic |
| [20:15:00] | Rule: | well did it also upgrade lirc ? |
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| [20:15:00] | Z-Morek: | yes |
| [20:15:00] | eiggirC: | Juski: bogon lists are useful, but they get out of date real quick |
| [20:15:00] | Rule: | personally I get rid of the packages and compile my own |
| [20:15:00] | Z-Morek: | and I could have sworn it installed the kernel module for the new kernel |
| [20:15:00] | Z-Morek: | I should probably start doing that |
| [20:15:00] | Z-Morek: | but with my SMALL tv screen |
| [20:15:00] | Z-Morek: | I avoid doing anything in the console where possible |
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| [20:16:00] | Z-Morek: | the computer is also in an awkward position for me to do anything extensive at the keyboard |
| [20:16:00] | Z-Morek: | soo I've just sorta stuck with the precompiled stuff and the guide on wilsonet |
| [20:17:00] | Juski: | think I might just deny access to port 80 again.. be much easier. I can always update my schedule over a VNC session on my secret port |
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| [20:18:00] | eiggirC: | Z-Morek: so ssh to the machine |
| [20:18:00] | laga: | there were problems with opengl vsync causing high cpu with mythtv. is this fixed in nvidia 8178? |
| [20:18:00] | Rule: | Juski: ssh tunnel |
| [20:18:00] | Z-Morek: | it's the only linux rig in my entire house |
| [20:18:00] | ** Z-Morek foot in mouth ** | |
| [20:18:00] | Rule: | putty :)à |
| [20:19:00] | Juski: | Rule: can't be arsed with the hassle of ssh tunnelling... I know it's probably easy.. but I've learned enough this week thanks |
| [20:19:00] | Juski: | gonna unwiiiiind tonight, big style |
| [20:19:00] | Rule: | :) |
| [20:19:00] | ** Juski did some basic scripting & feels much better for it though ** | |
| [20:19:00] | ** Rule adds "--update" to mythfilldatabase ** | |
| [20:19:00] | Z-Morek: | so I made sure my modprobe.conf matched up with what wilsonet suggests |
| [20:20:00] | Z-Morek: | and when I try to modprobe lirc_i2c it says module not found |
| [20:20:00] | Juski: | what's the ratio of working FC mythtv systems to non-working now? |
| [20:20:00] | eiggirC: | Z-Morek: search for "putty download" on google |
| [20:21:00] | Rule: | how does the mythtv DVD playing work ? |
| [20:21:00] | Juski: | that's not to disparage anything Jarod's done, but peeps always miss how-to guide steps |
| [20:21:00] | Juski: | Rule: mythtv calls an external player app. |
| [20:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: No, the problem exists for people in both 8174 and 8178 |
| [20:21:00] | Rule: | thats what I thought, however svn has a builtin one ? |
| [20:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | Juski: UNLESS you configure mythdvd to use Internal :) |
| [20:21:00] | Rule: | aha |
| [20:22:00] | Rule: | yes thats what I was looking for |
| [20:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | but the internal one needs work I beleive |
| [20:22:00] | Juski: | I don't have a DVDROM drive in my SVN box yet |
| [20:22:00] | Rule: | was wondering if you still needed mythdvd |
| [20:22:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: ok, thank you. :/ i should find myself some debian packages for 7676 then. |
| [20:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't know if menus are supported at all, and I've had people say it had several issues |
| [20:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | Someone is working on it though |
| [20:22:00] | Rule: | well I dont use mplayer or ogle anyways |
| [20:22:00] | thaJeepJerk: | mplayer does DVD menus now |
| [20:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use a DVD player for DVD's :) |
| [20:22:00] | Rule: | xine doesnt do menus either I thought |
| [20:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | theJ: Really? Cool |
| [20:23:00] | Juski: | ahh but it does |
| [20:23:00] | Rule: | yeah I dont use mplayer out of principle |
| [20:23:00] | Juski: | so does Ogle & VLC |
| [20:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | Xine does menus, it use to be the main choice because of the menu support |
| [20:23:00] | Juski: | wow.. so is that a case of open source code exchange in effect at last? |
| [20:23:00] | Rule: | hmm it doesnt do them well then :P |
| [20:24:00] | Z-Morek: | it says host does not exist |
| [20:24:00] | Rule: | must be xine-ui or so |
| [20:24:00] | Z-Morek: | I'm using the hostname I gave to it |
| [20:24:00] | Rule: | is the hostnqme resolvable ? |
| [20:24:00] | Z-Morek: | unless I need to use the mac address or something |
| [20:24:00] | thaJeepJerk: | Rule: you need mythdvd to launch the external player |
| [20:24:00] | Rule: | you use internal DNS ? |
| [20:24:00] | Juski: | maybe it's not in /etc/hosts ;) |
| [20:24:00] | Rule: | thaJeepJerk: yeah what about the internal one though |
| [20:24:00] | Rule: | Z-Morek: add to hosts file or just use IP |
| [20:25:00] | thaJeepJerk: | someone was working on that |
| [20:25:00] | Rule: | yep I was wondering how to test it |
| [20:25:00] | Z-Morek: | should I just use the internal ip? |
| [20:25:00] | Z-Morek: | like from the router? |
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| [20:25:00] | Rule: | yes |
| [20:25:00] | Z-Morek: | mmm I feel dumb |
| [20:25:00] | thaJeepJerk: | check the mailing list for dev, couple months ago |
| [20:25:00] | Rule: | must have missed it :/ |
| [20:26:00] | Z-Morek: | it's open... kinda |
| [20:26:00] | Rule: | think its still in my mailbox folder ;) |
| [20:26:00] | Z-Morek: | timeout |
| [20:26:00] | Rule: | Z-Morek: ssh is enabled right ? :) |
| [20:27:00] | Z-Morek: | ... |
| [20:27:00] | Juski: | right.. time I wasn't here.. laters guys & gals |
| [20:27:00] | Z-Morek: | I'm dumb... |
| [20:27:00] | Rule: | Any mythweb hackers about ? I would like the mythweb interface in english, but the colour highlighting for Dutch :) |
| [20:28:00] | Z-Morek: | how does one enable ssh? |
| [20:28:00] | Rule: | well you need the openssh-server installed and running |
| [20:28:00] | Rule: | you could test by doing a telnet to port 22 |
| [20:28:00] | Rule: | first try to ping the host to rule out network issue ;) |
| [20:29:00] | Z-Morek: | pings fine |
| [20:29:00] | Z-Morek: | they're both on the same subdomain |
| [20:29:00] | Rule: | ssh should be installed on most distros by default |
| [20:29:00] | Rule: | well try "telenet <ip> 22" |
| [20:30:00] | Rule: | just because I dont know what you are doing in putty |
| [20:30:00] | Rule: | replace <ip> obviously ;) |
| [20:30:00] | Z-Morek: | I'm not THAT dumb :-P |
| [20:30:00] | Rule: | hey gotta cover all bases :P |
| [20:31:00] | thaJeepJerk: | make sure your distro isn't blocking the port too |
| [20:31:00] | Z-Morek: | okay |
| [20:31:00] | Rule: | hell I dont even want to knwo what distro installs SSH and then proceeds to block it :) |
| [20:31:00] | Z-Morek: | I have fc3 |
| [20:31:00] | Coume: | OT: How do you say in English: the black "plastic" tube that skrinks when you warm them (ie: using a lighter) to perfectly fits the thingie you put inside??? In French I would call them something like: "Thermal tube" but it doesm't seem to be the right word in English :( |
| [20:31:00] | Rule: | what's it in french |
| [20:31:00] | Z-Morek: | I recall vaguely on the install there was some selection about "make it uber secure" |
| [20:32:00] | Rule: | doh :) |
| [20:32:00] | Z-Morek: | and I don't recall what my selection was |
| [20:32:00] | laga: | Coume: "heat shrink tube"? |
| [20:32:00] | laga: | http://dict.leo.org/?lp=ende&lang=de& . . . umpfschlauch |
| [20:32:00] | Rule: | that's not french :) |
| [20:32:00] | Rule: | lol |
| [20:32:00] | Beirdo: | close enough |
| [20:32:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:32:00] | Coume: | gaine thermoretractable |
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| [20:33:00] | Coume: | rule, gaine thermoretractable |
| [20:33:00] | laga: | Beirdo: you better watch it |
| [20:33:00] | yaaar: | Coume: definitely heat shrink tubing |
| [20:33:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:33:00] | Rule: | well heat shrink tubing sounds as close as anything |
| [20:33:00] | Beirdo: | not as if the Germans didn't try repeatedly to make that French |
| [20:33:00] | ** laga sings 'blaaame canada, blaaame canada...' ** | |
| [20:33:00] | Coume: | ok thanks all :) I was having trouble finding the translation! |
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| [20:35:00] | Coume: | perfect: http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo= . . . hrink%20tube – In the UK it seems to be Heat-Shrinkable Sleeving |
| [20:36:00] | Rule: | that would fit :) |
| [20:36:00] | Z-Morek: | and how does one check to see what services are running and what ports are open :-P |
| [20:37:00] | laga: | Z-Morek: netstat |
| [20:37:00] | Rule: | hmm another corner case is program guide data fetching : a channel that shares a frequency with another channel. How can I fetch data for that ? :) |
| [20:38:00] | laga: | Rule: i dont think this is supported yet in mythtv. i just use two channels with different xmltv-ids but the same feeqid. |
| [20:38:00] | Rule: | on analog I just created 2 channels with the same channel number. on my DVB (and in EIT), the channel is just 1 |
| [20:38:00] | laga: | freqid* |
| [20:38:00] | laga: | oh, ok. dunno about DVB |
| [20:38:00] | Rule: | laga: I do thae same for analog |
| [20:38:00] | Rule: | I suppose I could duplicate the channel in the DB |
| [20:39:00] | thaJeepJerk: | Z-Morek: ps -e | grep sshd |
| [20:39:00] | Z-Morek: | this is what it spit out |
| [20:40:00] | Z-Morek: | 3862 ? 00:00:00 sshd |
| [20:40:00] | Rule: | sounds good |
| [20:40:00] | thaJeepJerk: | that means the ssh server is running |
| [20:40:00] | Rule: | netstat -tap | grep sshd |
| [20:40:00] | Rule: | :) |
| [20:40:00] | Rule: | then iptables -L -v and check if its blocked |
| [20:41:00] | Rule: | dont paste it all here though |
| [20:41:00] | thaJeepJerk: | well since you know its running you could save time and just try connecting |
| [20:41:00] | Rule: | that didnt work before did it :) |
| [20:41:00] | thaJeepJerk: | so kill iptables :) |
| [20:42:00] | Rule: | ssh from the box itself would be interesting though |
| [20:42:00] | Rule: | iptables isnt a process, you'd have to --flush it |
| [20:42:00] | ** Beirdo flushes ** | |
| [20:42:00] | Beirdo: | that's better |
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| [20:42:00] | Rule: | doesnt help against policy settings maybe, I dont recall |
| [20:42:00] | thaJeepJerk: | now wash your hands |
| [20:43:00] | Rule: | iirc it deletes all rules |
| [20:43:00] | Z-Morek: | I know how to wash my hands the rest... not so much :-p |
| [20:43:00] | thaJeepJerk: | I usually use the bootscript to shut it down |
| [20:43:00] | Rule: | oic |
| [20:43:00] | thaJeepJerk: | but I'm not a FC guy |
| [20:43:00] | Rule: | I dont have a bootscript for iptables |
| [20:43:00] | Z-Morek: | the /sbin/iptables -L -v output what seems like empty tables |
| [20:44:00] | Z-Morek: | input, forward, and output right? |
| [20:44:00] | Rule: | and ACCEPT for all policies ? |
| [20:44:00] | Z-Morek: | yup |
| [20:44:00] | Rule: | gd gd |
| [20:44:00] | Rule: | try again |
| [20:44:00] | Z-Morek: | from my windows rig that I'm on |
| [20:44:00] | Rule: | thaJeepJerk: what distro ? |
| [20:44:00] | Rule: | yer |
| [20:45:00] | Z-Morek: | running putty, using the local ip assigned to the pvr, ssh, port 22 |
| [20:45:00] | Z-Morek: | timeout |
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| [20:46:00] | thaJeepJerk: | rule: Right now its LFS and SuSE |
| [20:46:00] | Rule: | ok |
| [20:46:00] | Z-Morek: | and I can ping each computer from the other |
| [20:46:00] | thaJeepJerk: | but SuSE is working hard to get thrown out |
| [20:47:00] | Z-Morek: | I don't need to setup a virtual server to forward port 22 to the pvr do I? |
| [20:47:00] | thaJeepJerk: | not if you're inside the firewall |
| [20:47:00] | Z-Morek: | that would be just from wan traffic right? |
| [20:47:00] | Z-Morek: | that's what I thought |
| [20:48:00] | guyfr: | yo!. why in the world a recorded program will play no sound and no images using the "Live TV" profile, but watching tv works fine....anyone has a hint for me |
| [20:48:00] | thaJeepJerk: | is there a trigger in here to get the svn addy for mythtv |
| [20:48:00] | Rule: | cvs.mythtv.org ? |
| [20:48:00] | Z-Morek: | oddly enough the pvr and the windows rig are both on the same network switch too... |
| [20:48:00] | Z-Morek: | and the switch is on the router |
| [20:49:00] | Rule: | Z-Morek: what did that telnet test do ? |
| [20:49:00] | Z-Morek: | do I telnet in windows console? |
| [20:49:00] | Z-Morek: | or try to telnet with putty? |
| [20:49:00] | Z-Morek: | or telnet from the pvr to the windows rig |
| [20:49:00] | Rule: | just do the windows one |
| [20:49:00] | Rule: | telnet to port 22 |
| [20:49:00] | Rule: | it should return some version info |
| [20:50:00] | Z-Morek: | telnet <ip> 22 |
| [20:50:00] | Rule: | ya |
| [20:50:00] | Z-Morek: | and it's just saing "connecting" |
| [20:50:00] | Z-Morek: | and connect failed |
| [20:50:00] | Rule: | the port is not responding then |
| [20:50:00] | Rule: | windows firewall ? |
| [20:50:00] | Z-Morek: | maybe |
| [20:50:00] | Rule: | 3rd party ? |
| [20:51:00] | Rule: | or the builtin thing |
| [20:51:00] | Rule: | I think you can just disable that one |
| [20:51:00] | Z-Morek: | my windows rig should be infected with like 12384903 trojans right now... but as far as I can tell it isn't |
| [20:51:00] | Z-Morek: | I only have a router for protection |
| [20:51:00] | Rule: | that helps :) |
| [20:51:00] | thaJeepJerk: | wonder if your sshd.conf is right |
| [20:52:00] | Rule: | basic NAT already counters a lot as long as you dont portfw all ports ;) |
| [20:52:00] | Rule: | check with netstat -tap |
| [20:52:00] | Rule: | you should see it in LISTEN state |
| [20:53:00] | Rule: | I'm off for a second... going to rewire my cables behind the TV a bit |
| [20:53:00] | Rule: | cant make sense of em anymore |
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| [20:57:00] | Z-Morek: | I'll be back I'll try a reboot see if I can't pull something off |
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| [21:04:00] | Z-Morek: | yeah I'm still unable to telnet and lircd is still broken :-O |
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| [21:16:00] | kavorka: | mythtv only records the last channel i watched not the channel set in the reord schedule |
| [21:16:00] | kavorka: | this was working ok...something changed |
| [21:17:00] | kavorka: | the db has the correct record chanid |
| [21:17:00] | kavorka: | anyone see this before? |
| [21:17:00] | sosumi: | not i |
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| [21:19:00] | kavorka: | all the information shows correct in the record schedule and while it is recording |
| [21:19:00] | sosumi: | pretty weird |
| [21:19:00] | kavorka: | but the channel actually recored is the last channel i watched live |
| [21:20:00] | kavorka: | select * from record ...shows coreect information |
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| [21:30:00] | Z-Morek: | yeah so funny story |
| [21:30:00] | Z-Morek: | telemarketer calls |
| [21:30:00] | Z-Morek: | and I answer yelling 'WHAT?!" |
| [21:30:00] | sosumi: | where is the funny part? |
| [21:31:00] | Z-Morek: | and completely undeterred he starts talking "Hello guys, this is Scotty... blah blah" |
| [21:31:00] | Z-Morek: | and then I hung up before anything funny happened |
| [21:31:00] | Z-Morek: | I'm a bad story teller |
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| [21:31:00] | Z-Morek: | yeah and it turns out lircd wasn't working because on apt-get dist-upgrade |
| [21:31:00] | sosumi: | maybe it was a funny moment, but not a funny story |
| [21:31:00] | Z-Morek: | it never installed the new kernel module |
| [21:31:00] | Z-Morek: | it was funny to me |
| [21:32:00] | Z-Morek: | because I had just ended a huge argument with my dad about having had an argument with my girlfriend |
| [21:32:00] | Z-Morek: | I do a lot of arguing |
| [21:32:00] | Z-Morek: | I should give up my plan of going for a masters in computer science |
| [21:32:00] | Z-Morek: | and just go prelaw |
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| [21:39:00] | Beirdo: | ahhhh, some nice fast headbanging music to end the day |
| [21:41:00] | laga: | bon jovi? |
| [21:41:00] | Z-Morek: | enya? |
| [21:42:00] | laga: | avril lavigne? |
| [21:42:00] | ** xris misses his head banging hair ** | |
| [21:42:00] | Beirdo: | hah |
| [21:42:00] | Beirdo: | Tourniquet |
| [21:42:00] | laga: | xris: ha! :) |
| [21:42:00] | Beirdo: | at about 90% volume into headphones |
| [21:42:00] | Beirdo: | and I miss the hair sometimes too |
| [21:42:00] | laga: | you're gonna be deaf |
| [21:42:00] | Beirdo: | but most of the time I like my 2mm long hair |
| [21:43:00] | xris: | heh |
| [21:43:00] | Beirdo: | meh, I don't care :) |
| [21:43:00] | xris: | I like my not-THAT-short haircut |
| [21:43:00] | xris: | looks good |
| [21:43:00] | Beirdo: | and the woman likes how I look |
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| [21:43:00] | xris: | wife pets it more often |
| [21:43:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [21:43:00] | xris: | makes comments about how she's finally married to a boy |
| [21:43:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [21:44:00] | Beirdo: | there *are* other ways to prove it |
| [21:44:00] | xris: | yes. |
| [21:44:00] | xris: | well, she knew that much already. heh |
| [21:44:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:44:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, yeah, but proving it to her friends might have been a little... awkward :P |
| [21:44:00] | laga: | i wouldn't talk to the gf for a week or so if she said something like that. no way to make my hair go away ;) |
| [21:44:00] | Beirdo: | ooooh, good point |
| [21:44:00] | xris: | I just feel too metro now.. have to put in "product" and "goozsh" my hair. |
| [21:44:00] | Beirdo: | laga: sure there is. it's called scissors |
| [21:44:00] | immolo: | Has anyone got a Stratford PG300 which is connexnt based device like my nova-t but don't work as is like the nova-t |
| [21:45:00] | laga: | Beirdo: *shiver* they work for limbs as well, so you better behave ;) |
| [21:45:00] | Beirdo: | hey, I had long hair too, I know how you feel |
| [21:45:00] | Z-Morek: | I prefer to just not wash my hair for a few days at a time |
| [21:45:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:45:00] | laga: | you sure? must be a long time ;) |
| [21:45:00] | ** laga hides ** | |
| [21:45:00] | laga: | Z-Morek: ew |
| [21:45:00] | Z-Morek: | builds up a natural hair gel |
| [21:45:00] | Beirdo: | with 2mm long hair, nobody would notice if it's washed |
| [21:45:00] | laga: | ;) |
| [21:46:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:46:00] | Z-Morek: | most people are grossed out |
| [21:46:00] | laga: | Beirdo: well, there's nothing to be washed. :) |
| [21:46:00] | Beirdo: | and it has been about... 2 years since I had hair |
| [21:46:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, when it's covered by crud, they'll notice |
| [21:46:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:46:00] | Z-Morek: | I can understand being grossed out if I went like.... a week |
| [21:46:00] | Z-Morek: | it's not like I don't shower |
| [21:47:00] | Z-Morek: | I'm on my way to developerhood! |
| [21:47:00] | laga: | you're just too lazy sometimes? just have to finish another level? just have to setup another myth boxen? ;) |
| [21:47:00] | Beirdo: | just stock up on ratty t-shirts |
| [21:48:00] | xris: | Z-Morek: I cut mine when I became a manager |
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| [21:48:00] | Z-Morek: | DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS |
| [21:48:00] | xris: | one can be both (I hope) |
| [21:48:00] | Z-Morek: | and now I'm on my way to CEOhood |
| [21:48:00] | Beirdo: | I cut mine the first time for my sister's wedding |
| [21:48:00] | Beirdo: | then I cut it again a few years later |
| [21:48:00] | xris: | at least so says the code in front of me and the minions in the other room... |
| [21:48:00] | Beirdo: | then shaved it off after that :) |
| [21:49:00] | topping: | is there a way to play music from mythmusic while a video is playing? |
| [21:50:00] | topping: | my guess is that there is not |
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| [21:50:00] | laga: | topping: nope, that's not possible |
| [21:51:00] | PhilQ: | is there a myth audio expert present? |
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| [21:51:00] | Z-Morek: | YET |
| [21:51:00] | Beirdo: | sorry, you can't play the porno music over that video with no sound |
| [21:51:00] | Z-Morek: | YET! |
| [21:52:00] | xris: | topping: not yet, anyway |
| [21:52:00] | topping: | erm, i was trying to play good music over the porno videos, but point taken :-) |
| [21:52:00] | defII: | hey is tuner 0, or 1 the default tuner for the pvr-150? |
| [21:52:00] | xris: | defII: 0, I think |
| [21:52:00] | defII: | xris, k |
| [21:52:00] | xris: | I use svideo, so don't necessarily trust me, though |
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| [21:54:00] | Z-Morek: | okay so now that there's people here |
| [21:54:00] | Z-Morek: | time to drop my freak question |
| [21:54:00] | Z-Morek: | whenever I delete a recording |
| [21:55:00] | Z-Morek: | it doesn't get removed from my recordings list until I leave the menu and return |
| [21:56:00] | xris: | hmm, odd... myth not showing all of my recordings. |
| [21:56:00] | xris: | means I'll have to poke at mythweb this weekend |
| [21:56:00] | Z-Morek: | and I AM using the most recent stable builds off atrpms |
| [21:56:00] | xris: | guess I need to fix bugs, anyway |
| [21:56:00] | xris: | Z-Morek: .18? |
| [21:56:00] | Z-Morek: | yup |
| [21:56:00] | Z-Morek: | wait |
| [21:56:00] | Z-Morek: | on second thought |
| [21:57:00] | Z-Morek: | apt keeps holding bvack my mythfrontend |
| [21:58:00] | xris: | so .17? |
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| [21:59:00] | Z-Morek: | 0.18.1.20050523–1 |
| [21:59:00] | Z-Morek: | is what it says in the frontend |
| [21:59:00] | xris: | yup, mythweb definitely ignoring certain recordings. weird. |
| [22:00:00] | xris: | Z-Morek: if it's a bug, it's fixed in svn.... |
| [22:00:00] | xris: | I know they changed how deletions are handled |
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| [22:01:00] | Z-Morek: | and this gets me back to the issue I was dealing with other people on the channel earlier |
| [22:01:00] | Z-Morek: | I need to find an efficient way to get at my pvr because it's in a weird location in the corner of my room |
| [22:01:00] | Z-Morek: | and it's hard to do a lot of console commands at |
| [22:01:00] | Z-Morek: | and when I try to telnet in it times out |
| [22:02:00] | laga: | get ssh up and running. |
| [22:02:00] | Z-Morek: | sshd is running |
| [22:03:00] | Z-Morek: | and I have no ip blocks in my iptables |
| [22:03:00] | Z-Morek: | they're set to accept all |
| [22:03:00] | Z-Morek: | the windows rig and pvr are both connected into my lan |
| [22:04:00] | Z-Morek: | I can ping one another |
| [22:04:00] | Z-Morek: | but when I try to telnet in from either windows console or putty it doesn't work |
| [22:04:00] | Z-Morek: | ssh in putty doesn't work either |
| [22:04:00] | Z-Morek: | it just times out |
| [22:05:00] | PhilQ: | does dns work from the pvr to resolve the windows boxes name? |
| [22:05:00] | Z-Morek: | I don't believe I have any dns setup |
| [22:05:00] | PhilQ: | check /var/log/secure to see why the ssh session failed |
| [22:06:00] | xris: | nope, working properly.. myth has a "recorded" entry for the program, but the file doesn't exist. |
| [22:06:00] | xris: | that's f'd up |
| [22:07:00] | laga: | xris: hehe. time for a DROP, i guess. |
| [22:07:00] | xris: | laga: yeah |
| [22:07:00] | xris: | but I wanted to watch it... good eats episode about vanilla |
| [22:07:00] | Chutt: | xris, oh, ignoring livetv in mythweb? |
| [22:07:00] | laga: | deleting recordings whose files don't exist still fails for me with SVN. :/ |
| [22:07:00] | xris: | Chutt: no... normal recording. |
| [22:07:00] | Chutt: | no no |
| [22:07:00] | xris: | ignoring livetv stuff will be easy enough |
| [22:07:00] | Chutt: | can you make it do that? =) |
| [22:07:00] | xris: | yes, will get to that this weekend. |
| [22:08:00] | Chutt: | excellent |
| [22:08:00] | Chutt: | getting closer. |
| [22:08:00] | xris: | would do it tonight except for scifi friday is a social evening for us |
| [22:08:00] | laga: | Chutt: that's good news :) |
| [22:08:00] | xris: | Chutt: was just happy to see that you made it a recgroup... much better than filtering on profile (since I used to use the livetv profile to record stuff) |
| [22:08:00] | ** laga should get his lazy ass to file some bugs tomorrow ;) ** | |
| [22:08:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:09:00] | ** Beirdo should get his lazy ass to vote early tomorrow ** | |
| [22:09:00] | laga: | bah, voting. ;) |
| [22:09:00] | laga: | Chutt: is trac open again? |
| [22:09:00] | Beirdo: | I know, a futile exercise |
| [22:09:00] | Chutt: | err, yes |
| [22:09:00] | Chutt: | been so since last evening |
| [22:09:00] | Z-Morek: | I looked thru /var/log/secure |
| [22:09:00] | laga: | Chutt: thanks. i must have missed the related e-mail then |
| [22:10:00] | Z-Morek: | "error: Bind to port 22 on 0.0.0.0 failed: address already in use |
| [22:10:00] | laga: | Z-Morek: that means sshd or some other service (unlikely) is already running on that port |
| [22:10:00] | laga: | i had problems like this when i was running portsentry :) |
| [22:11:00] | PhilQ: | FC3/4 boxes seem to generate this message 'normally' – I get them in the daily logwatch |
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| [22:14:00] | PhilQ: | just ssh'd into an FC3 box and got "Jan 13 22:11:46 maverick sshd[11866]: Accepted publickey for root from ::ffff:192.168.35.200 port 59345 ssh2" in the secure file |
| [22:15:00] | Beirdo: | so? |
| [22:15:00] | Beirdo: | you are sshing as root, what's your point? |
| [22:15:00] | PhilQ: | I don't see "error: Bind to port 22 on 0.0.0.0 failed: address already in use |
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| [22:15:00] | rjune: | Uhhh |
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| [22:22:00] | jonase: | i try to view a recorded show, with mythtvweb. cant get it to work. can someone help me please? |
| [22:23:00] | kcody: | hi all.. trying to run NTSC in native format on a CRT. it seems like the pixels simply fade long before the adjacent line is drawn – is there any way to beat that? |
| [22:23:00] | jonase: | i can give you access to VNC, so you can help me :) |
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| [22:25:00] | Z-Morek: | laga: how do I go about fixing this :-P |
| [22:26:00] | jams: | laga did you ever finish your diskless mythfrontend writeup? |
| [22:26:00] | Z-Morek: | wait |
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| [22:26:00] | Z-Morek: | ssh requires keys |
| [22:26:00] | Z-Morek: | and I never setup keys |
| [22:26:00] | Z-Morek: | BUT telnet didn't work either |
| [22:26:00] | Z-Morek: | so..... |
| [22:27:00] | thaJeepJerk: | FC doesn't set up telnet |
| [22:27:00] | Z-Morek: | badabing |
| [22:27:00] | rjune: | ssh doesn't require keys, it'll do passwd auth |
| [22:27:00] | thaJeepJerk: | you don't have opensll? |
| [22:27:00] | Z-Morek: | I never setup anything for ssh |
| [22:27:00] | thaJeepJerk: | FC should have put that together for you |
| [22:27:00] | rjune: | ssh is setup by default |
| [22:27:00] | Z-Morek: | :-( |
| [22:27:00] | Z-Morek: | then what did I do wrong? |
| [22:27:00] | laga: | jams: i haven't even started it. the box just isn't fast enough so i've lost interested but i'm actually tinkering with it at the moment. |
| [22:28:00] | thaJeepJerk: | Z: you connecting at least now? |
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| [22:28:00] | Z-Morek: | it just times out |
| [22:29:00] | Z-Morek: | BWHAHAHAHA |
| [22:29:00] | laga: | jams: i've talked to some guy who wanted to do a ubuntu + mythtv + diskless howto. i don't remember his IRC nick, but i have his email-adress. |
| [22:29:00] | Z-Morek: | I'm so dumb |
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| [22:29:00] | laga: | ;) |
| [22:29:00] | Freud^: | hmm, diskless setup would rock :) |
| [22:29:00] | thaJeepJerk: | so when you telnet to it you don't get like: SSH-1.99-OpenSSH_4.2 |
| [22:29:00] | Z-Morek: | I forgot which local IP I bound to which computer |
| [22:29:00] | Beirdo: | ifconfig |
| [22:29:00] | Z-Morek: | I've been trying to telnet into my sister's laptop |
| [22:30:00] | Beirdo: | and a labeller :) |
| [22:30:00] | Z-Morek: | and not my myth rig |
| [22:30:00] | ** Z-Morek foot in mouth! ** | |
| [22:30:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:30:00] | Beirdo: | yah, crack into her laptop |
| [22:30:00] | Beirdo: | she'll thank you later |
| [22:30:00] | laga: | Freud^: yep :) |
| [22:30:00] | Freud^: | hmm, I wonder if my mac mini can pxe boot |
| [22:30:00] | Beirdo: | likely with a boot to the head |
| [22:30:00] | Z-Morek: | omg |
| [22:31:00] | Z-Morek: | I hate when that happens, I make a STUPID mistake and never realize it |
| [22:31:00] | Freud^: | laga, if you need help I've built a few diskless systems.. |
| [22:31:00] | SqWaw: | Can anyone help me to updatie channel icons? |
| [22:31:00] | rjune: | LOL |
| [22:31:00] | rjune: | Z-Morek: /etc/hosts will help with that, so will dns |
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| [22:32:00] | ZMorek0: | I can ssh into my mythrig! |
| [22:32:00] | rjune: | congrats |
| [22:33:00] | Freud^: | has anyone tried distcc between different platforms ? |
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| [22:33:00] | ** ZMorek0 elated ** | |
| [22:33:00] | Freud^: | I seem to remember that it "should" work |
| [22:33:00] | Freud^: | but I can't remember if I need the same version of gcc or what is needed.. |
| [22:33:00] | laga: | Freud^: i'm almost there. the system boots fine but my frontend is just too low on CPU. i think i should set up a consistent user database, can you suggest anything? |
| [22:34:00] | ZMorek0: | now my only remaning things left are getting the svn for the frontend |
| [22:34:00] | ZMorek0: | setup a counterstrike server |
| [22:34:00] | ZMorek0: | and then STEPMANIA woot! |
| [22:34:00] | Freud^: | laga, a consistent user database ? |
| [22:34:00] | ZMorek0: | not that anyone cares |
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| [22:34:00] | rjune: | laga: suse has NIS tools built in, and sles does ldap |
| [22:34:00] | thaJeepJerk: | so is there reason behind the message you get when you configure with --disable-backend? |
| [22:35:00] | rjune: | there's fedora directory |
| [22:35:00] | Freud^: | ohh |
| [22:35:00] | laga: | Freud^: yes, so that several frontends basically have one /etc/passwd. i think that NIS would let me do stuff like this, but i've heard it's not every secure. |
| [22:35:00] | Freud^: | NIS can do it, ldap with TLS is recomended |
| [22:35:00] | ZMorek0: | okay off to work thanks everyone for not yelling at me for the noobness |
| [22:35:00] | laga: | ldap with tls. thanks, i will look into it. |
| [22:35:00] | jams: | yeah I would do ldap |
| [22:35:00] | rjune: | you could always rsync /etc/passwd etc across amchines |
| [22:35:00] | Freud^: | but ldap is kinda complex for simple systems.. |
| [22:36:00] | Freud^: | heh |
| [22:36:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [22:36:00] | rjune: | I did that before I used sles |
| [22:36:00] | laga: | my network is just a big mess anyways, i'll just throw more acronyms on it |
| [22:36:00] | rjune: | ldap is a pain on it's own |
| [22:36:00] | Freud^: | rjune is right, ldap has quite a learning curve.. |
| [22:36:00] | rjune: | so I had a cronjob that would copy passwd from a central machine |
| [22:36:00] | rjune: | and setup perms |
| [22:37:00] | Freud^: | only good ldap interface I've found is Active Directory :) |
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| [22:37:00] | rjune: | then I used sles, and ldap is easy |
| [22:37:00] | rjune: | so I use it. |
| [22:37:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [22:37:00] | Freud^: | rjune, what kind of tools do you get with sles ? |
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| [22:37:00] | rjune: | Freud^: only one I use is the user/group manager |
| [22:37:00] | Freud^: | I'm rhel type of a guy |
| [22:37:00] | laga: | i should skip a few weeks worth of school,lock my room and build me a real network |
| [22:37:00] | rjune: | so am I |
| [22:38:00] | rjune: | company I work for does sles though |
| [22:38:00] | Freud^: | ohh ok |
| [22:38:00] | purplefrog: | Once I add a couple of shows to the "play list" how do i play the list? hitting <enter> just plays the thing under the cursor. |
| [22:38:00] | rjune: | and since RHEL doesn't have any LDAP implementation, sles it is |
| [22:38:00] | Freud^: | rjune, it does have "a" implementation using openldap |
| [22:38:00] | Freud^: | rjune, redhat isn't big on GUIs though |
| [22:38:00] | rjune: | let me rephrase, as RHEL doesn't have a decent sles implemenation |
| [22:38:00] | Freud^: | rjune, so you have to figure it our mostly for yourself |
| [22:38:00] | rjune: | gah, ldap |
| [22:39:00] | rjune: | no gui isn't a problem |
| [22:39:00] | rjune: | but there is about squat for tools with rhel. directory server may change that, but right now, it's pretty much stock openldap and that's it |
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| [22:39:00] | Freud^: | rjune, yepp |
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| [22:40:00] | thaJeepJerk: | what's Xmu? |
| [22:42:00] | ** Wole waves hi as he waits patiently for mythfilldatabase to complete on his shiny new backend server. ** | |
| [22:42:00] | laga: | shiny? tell me more :) |
| [22:42:00] | Wole: | actually it's black |
| [22:42:00] | Wole: | but still |
| [22:43:00] | Freud^: | I actually have a shiny black frontend ;) |
| [22:44:00] | Wole: | hmmm, frontend. I really cont decide if i should splash the extra cash on a mac mini – was going to go with an xbox... |
| [22:44:00] | adante: | should have gotten red, they record faster |
| [22:45:00] | laga: | adante: r-type stickers give an additional 10% speed boost. turns PAL into NTSC, framerate-wise. |
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| [22:45:00] | kormoc: | Wole, I just built my be for $200ish |
| [22:45:00] | Wole: | yeah, but thinking of noise here... |
| [22:47:00] | adante: | hmm is there a type-r branch in svn? |
| [22:47:00] | kormoc: | small shuttle box, slow, cool proc |
| [22:48:00] | defII: | how do you specify which interface you use for livetv? |
| [22:48:00] | xris: | kormoc: ignoring the fact that you already had the drive and tuners |
| [22:48:00] | kormoc: | true |
| [22:48:00] | kormoc: | xris, but assuming most people in ehre would have the same |
| [22:49:00] | Freud^: | defII, you dont afaik |
| [22:49:00] | xris: | mine was about $550 for everything... but that was over 3 years ago |
| [22:49:00] | Freud^: | defII, LiveTV just uses an available interface |
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| [22:49:00] | Wole: | has anyone had a go with one of these: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2006/01/02/e . . . _plus/1.html |
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| [22:50:00] | defII: | Freud^, and what about if you record something will it jujst default to first available? |
| [22:51:00] | Freud^: | defII, you can set priority of inputs in mythtv-setup |
| [22:51:00] | defII: | Freud^, better yet why dont I just try it and stop being lazy.. |
| [22:51:00] | xris: | Beirdo: you really should hear the latest great big sea album. mermaid song is hillarious. |
| [22:51:00] | Freud^: | Wole, very pricy it seems compared to mac-mini |
| [22:51:00] | Freud^: | Wole, seeing, at least on my frontend (mac mini), I don't need all that extra space |
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| [22:52:00] | defII: | Freud^, ok it just takes first available |
| [22:53:00] | Freud^: | defII, theres also a setting which tries to select a LiveTV channel so that it will not conflict with future recordings, don't remember exactly where it is though |
| [22:53:00] | Bob-Laptop: | Should buffers be on a local machine or can they go to an nfs share? |
| [22:54:00] | Freud^: | Bob-Laptop, you do not need nfs for mythtv only setup afaik |
| [22:54:00] | Wole: | Freud^, yeah, it's nearly twice the price.. but then again an xbox is half the price of a mac mini. Can you still use the mac mini as a normal mac? i.e. does mythfrontend sit happily on darwin/osX |
| [22:54:00] | Freud^: | Bob-Laptop, so the answer would be no |
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| [22:54:00] | Freud^: | Wole, pretty much so |
| [22:55:00] | Freud^: | Wole, I havent dared to switch to linux with crappy history with ATI display drivers on linux |
| [22:55:00] | Freud^: | Wole, so I use myth for TV/Video and itunes for music |
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| [23:04:00] | Bob-Laptop: | OK let me ask this in another way, I have a master and two slave backends, should all of them share a buffer area such as over NFS? |
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| [23:07:00] | Pitchin_uk: | where is a good place to get lirc from? |
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| [23:08:00] | Juski: | Bob-Laptop: you don't need NFS to share recordings – the only time you'd need that is to share mythvideos & mythmusic |
| [23:09:00] | Juski: | ..and even then you could use Samba instead ;) |
| [23:09:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: you ever tried Google? |
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| [23:15:00] | defII: | Well as I watch commercials I take it the flagging feature dose't work all the time.. |
| [23:16:00] | Pitchin_uk: | hopefully someone can help – im trying to setup a hauppauge nova-t card in suse 10.0 and when i do a channel scan it comes back with no channels |
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| [23:16:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: you scanning in mythtv or with the dvb utils from linuxtv.org ? see this page : http://www.mythbox.co.uk/uk_dvb.htm |
| [23:17:00] | ** porsche passes b_e_n_z ** | |
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| [23:17:00] | defII: | Juski, hey the 150 mce version dosen't come with IR |
| [23:17:00] | defII: | got both mine today |
| [23:17:00] | Wole: | Pitchin_uk: what dows tzap say when you try to scan with it? |
| [23:17:00] | Juski: | defII: cool |
| [23:17:00] | Pitchin_uk: | this is just within suse tv card im just about to install myth |
| [23:18:00] | defII: | does anyone else have a problem with displaying the program guide while watching tv? |
| [23:18:00] | Juski: | mine's been behaving itself (gawd you guys have had me nervous).. currently recording Red Dwarf |
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| [23:19:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: suse tv? I've got news for yer... no Linux tv desktop programs will scan DVB-T for you |
| [23:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | Juski: Damn I use to love that show |
| [23:19:00] | Pitchin_uk: | ok cool |
| [23:19:00] | Pitchin_uk: | i'll crack on with the install |
| [23:19:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: click on the linky I put up.. you want it from about step 8 or 9 BEFORE cracking on with mythtv. verify your tuner works first |
| [23:20:00] | Juski: | GreyFoxx: yeah – was great for a few series, then erm... well.. wasn't |
| [23:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [23:20:00] | Wole: | juski, i thought that all the nova-t's were supported now.. |
| [23:20:00] | Juski: | Wole: it's not that |
| [23:21:00] | unkle: | hi people, this might be a pretty stupid question, but i've seen people refering to a mythfrontend-log, – where can i find such a thing ? I only see individual logs for the different "sub-functionalities" (stream, nuv2disc, mythphone and so on) |
| [23:21:00] | Juski: | it's just that desktop TV apps the likes of Suse ship won't work with DVB-T cards |
| [23:21:00] | Juski: | *ship with |
| [23:22:00] | Wole: | juski, i installed fc4 the other day, and it recognised ther nova-t in the machine i was in (2.6–14) |
| [23:22:00] | Pitchin_uk: | cheers juski |
| [23:22:00] | Juski: | Wole: Pitchin_uk's problem isnt that the card's not being detected ... |
| [23:23:00] | ** Wole actually reads the problem... ** | |
| [23:23:00] | Juski: | kernels past 2.6.10 probably sort out most DVB-T cards anyway |
| [23:23:00] | unkle: | when trying to rip a DVD it suddenly exits a couple of minutes into the ripping-process, a message comes up, but immediately get overwritten with the default "press 0 to do another job", i would like to know what the previous message said, so i was hoping to find a log... |
| [23:23:00] | Juski: | defII: how do you mean 'problem with displaying the program guide' ? |
| [23:24:00] | Juski: | unkle: do you have mtd installed & running? |
| [23:24:00] | unkle: | Juski, well theres an "mtd" process eating up 40% of my cpu when ripping, so "yes" (i think) ;) |
| [23:24:00] | Juski: | unkle: okees :) |
| [23:25:00] | Juski: | ask stupid questions first ;) |
| [23:25:00] | unkle: | Juski : D |
| [23:25:00] | unkle: | Juski, and it starts ripping and i get some progress on the two indicators in the screen, but alas... it exits |
| [23:25:00] | Juski: | there's possibly a log that mtd writes.. have a look for that |
| [23:26:00] | defII: | Juski, It dosent center on the screen but actually hangs off about 50% |
| [23:26:00] | Juski: | I rip all my DVDs on my windaz box (ssshh!).. it's the only machine in here with a DVD drive |
| [23:26:00] | Juski: | apart from the frontend, but that's only got a 1ghz CPU ;) |
| [23:27:00] | unkle: | Juski, yes ! got it and found an answer to my problem... /myth/tmp/mtd.log ...and ill keep the answer to the problem to myself (its simply too stupid of me that i didnt think of this) |
| [23:27:00] | ** laga screams 'epia' at juski ** | |
| [23:27:00] | laga: | unkle: please tell us |
| [23:27:00] | ** Beirdo screams 'cordless mouse' at laga ** | |
| [23:28:00] | unkle: | laga > are you running myth of a epia-board ? |
| [23:28:00] | unkle: | *sighs* |
| [23:28:00] | ** Juski screams "totally silent & flawless playback" at laga ** | |
| [23:28:00] | Juski: | ;) |
| [23:28:00] | unkle: | laga > one word.... "diskspace"..... |
| [23:28:00] | Juski: | lol |
| [23:29:00] | unkle: | and this conversation is actually logged... im ending up on slashdot in no time.... |
| [23:29:00] | Juski: | we all run out of diskspace eventually. except maybe those who have 2.5TB sitting there humming away |
| [23:29:00] | Juski: | unkle: don't tempt fate |
| [23:30:00] | immolo: | Juski, if you run out just throw a new one on the lvm |
| [23:30:00] | unkle: | Juski, thanks, but it doesnt take the feeling of stupidity away ;) |
| [23:30:00] | unkle: | Juski, LOL |
| [23:30:00] | Juski: | I don't use lvm.. and besides I'm all out of IDE channels |
| [23:30:00] | Pitchin_uk: | juski so far so good!! im just getting tzap |
| [23:31:00] | Juski: | and I don't happen to have any SATA drives or a meatier PSU |
| [23:31:00] | unkle: | dreams of a epia with CN400 (and driver-support...) |
| [23:31:00] | laga: | unkle: no, juski does. |
| [23:31:00] | unkle: | hehe |
| [23:31:00] | gakalkag: | yeah got it |
| [23:31:00] | Juski: | Pitchiin_uk: Xine-ui will work with DVB-T cards if you can give it a channels.conf file ;-) |
| [23:31:00] | ** laga yells random bash.org quotes at beirdo ** | |
| [23:31:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [23:32:00] | unkle: | *keeps a low profile for the bash'ers* |
| [23:32:00] | Pitchin_uk: | ok cheers juski |
| [23:32:00] | laga: | Beirdo: do you enjoy work as much as i enjoy my beer? ;) |
| [23:33:00] | Beirdo: | I'm home on the couch now |
| [23:33:00] | laga: | Beirdo: darn. never mind then. ;) |
| [23:33:00] | ** Beirdo burps ** | |
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| [23:35:00] | Pitchin_uk: | juski: where do i need to put the channels.conf |
| [23:35:00] | ** Juski takes a swig of Baileys ** | |
| [23:35:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: can't remember.. just use tzap.. it's just as quick |
| [23:35:00] | Juski: | do you have a channels.conf? |
| [23:35:00] | ** laga is still struggling with the darn nvidia drivers ** | |
| [23:35:00] | Juski: | I mean was the scan successful? |
| [23:36:00] | Pitchin_uk: | i have the channels.conf |
| [23:36:00] | Pitchin_uk: | yes it found the six bbc channels |
| [23:36:00] | Juski: | excellent :) |
| [23:36:00] | Juski: | if the howto mentions dvbstream don't bother with that... |
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| [23:37:00] | Pitchin_uk: | ok – i cant seem to find tzap |
| [23:37:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk.. |
| [23:37:00] | Juski: | it's cunningly hidden in the szap directory |
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| [23:38:00] | Juski: | when you pass it the channels.conf give it the full pathname of the .conf file |
| [23:38:00] | Pitchin_uk: | or do i need to just put it in the dir |
| [23:38:00] | defII: | Guys I selected default for menu display and it takes away the setup menu, any way to get it back? |
| [23:39:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: either or |
| [23:39:00] | Juski: | takes away the setup menu? you're not by any chance using the Minimalist-wide theme are you? |
| [23:39:00] | Juski: | I've seen that with the minimalist theme |
| [23:40:00] | defII: | no |
| [23:40:00] | Juski: | what theme are you using? |
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| [23:41:00] | defII: | actually I didnt change that your right im using minamillist wide |
| [23:41:00] | defII: | I'm I gonna be diving into mysql...? |
| [23:41:00] | Juski: | right... how I fixed it: quit out of mythfrontend |
| [23:42:00] | Juski: | then, rename Minimalist-wide to something else |
| [23:42:00] | defII: | ohh thats =easier |
| [23:42:00] | Juski: | then, copy a different theme directory and call it Minimalist-wide |
| [23:42:00] | Juski: | then restart mythfrontend.. that should fix it |
| [23:42:00] | Juski: | then change the theme you're using to something else |
| [23:43:00] | Pitchin_uk: | juski: i get a lock!! woohoo |
| [23:43:00] | Juski: | report the bug (I can't be bothered to) – and put Minimalist-wide back to where it was |
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| [23:44:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: woo.. do you have pictures & sound? if so, proceed with setting up mythtv |
| [23:44:00] | defII: | Juski, Is that a bad theme to use? |
| [23:44:00] | Juski: | defII: I wouldn't say that – it's just that I've run into the same problem a couple of times |
| [23:45:00] | Pitchin_uk: | juski: i was only running it from a console |
| [23:45:00] | Pitchin_uk: | is there somethignelse i need to do?? |
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| [23:45:00] | Pitchin_uk: | something else even :) |
| [23:45:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: when tzap is running you can cat /dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0 > test.mpg then play the file in mplayer |
| [23:46:00] | Juski: | or cat straight into mplayer |
| [23:46:00] | Pitchin_uk: | ok cool |
| [23:46:00] | Juski: | but getting a lock is usually good enough for me to go on ;) first time, I'd say check it out all the way |
| [23:48:00] | Pitchin_uk: | so if i just put ./tzap channels.conf and then the cat command above – is that all i need |
| [23:48:00] | Juski: | yeh |
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| [23:49:00] | Juski: | but you'd need to run the cat command in another console |
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| [23:50:00] | Pitchin_uk: | right so i get a lock and then cat the file out whilst locking on |
| [23:51:00] | Juski: | yep |
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| [23:51:00] | Juski: | full of syllables tonight ain't I |
| [23:52:00] | laga: | aight |
| [23:52:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | I have a script that controls my directv receiver which works when I manually run it, but for some reason myth won't use it when I change channels.. how can I tell what is going on? |
| [23:52:00] | laga: | JoeyJoeJo: run mythbackend with some verbosity options. mythbackend --help | less |
| [23:52:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | ok |
| [23:53:00] | Juski: | is it just me or has lyngsat changed their page format? |
| [23:54:00] | Juski: | ahh it's just me (d'oh) |
| [23:54:00] | Pitchin_uk: | juski: do i need to tell it which adapter because nothing was captured |
| [23:54:00] | Pitchin_uk: | in the tzap command that is |
| [23:55:00] | Juski: | erm... |
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| [23:55:00] | Juski: | normally have to tell it a channel name |
| [23:55:00] | Juski: | e.g. ./tzap "BBC ONE" blah blah blah |
| [23:55:00] | Pitchin_uk: | ./tzap "BBC ONE" ~/linuxtv-dvb-apps-1.1.0/linuxtv-dvb-apps-1.1.0/util/szap/channels.conf |
| [23:56:00] | Pitchin_uk: | was the command i put in |
| [23:56:00] | Juski: | hmmm |
| [23:56:00] | Juski: | what's tzap saying in all this time? |
| [23:56:00] | Pitchin_uk: | and i says fe has a lock |
| [23:56:00] | Juski: | paste one line of the output in here please |
| [23:57:00] | Pitchin_uk: | status 1f | signal 0030 | snr ffff | ber 00000000 | unc 00000000 | FE_HAS_LOCK |
| [23:57:00] | Juski: | good signal |
| [23:58:00] | Juski: | no errors, basic or uncorrectable |
| [23:59:00] | Juski: | you'd probably be ok to go ahead with the install.. but you'll be needing the channels.conf later |
| [23:59:00] | Pitchin_uk: | ok cool |
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