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Friday, January 6th, 2006, 00:00 UTC
[00:00:00] DaSkreech: Ah
[00:00:00] kcody: Pitchin_uk: video accel under X-windows comes in two flavors: xv and xvmc (mc means motion compensation)
[00:00:00] Juski: Kelerion: all sorts of stuff.. someone wants it to look more like XBMC :-(
[00:00:00] DaSkreech: Won't most TV enabled Video Cards do the same thing?
[00:00:00] kcody: Pitchin_uk: xv means hardware does the work of fitting the image to the screen (or window) and probably convers the YUV colors to RGB
[00:00:00] Kelerion: Juski.. don't bend.. it looks awesome as is
[00:00:00] Pitchin_uk: kcody if i was to buy a card which would you recommend
[00:00:00] DaSkreech: the
[00:01:00] Juski: I'm not gonna.. can't anyway.. was as close as you can get within the confines of a mythtvtheme
[00:01:00] Kelerion: I will ask where I can get those watermarks with the border though.. was wanting to compare side-by-side
[00:01:00] kcody: Pitchin_uk: xvmc means the still-compressed mpeg stream is passed right into the video hardware
[00:01:00] kcody: Pitchin_uk: if keeping cpu down is top priority, then go for just about any recent nvidia; sounds like you might want to look for h.264 support specifically
[00:01:00] kcody: Pitchin_uk: but seriously, my honest recommendation is to stick with the card you have
[00:02:00] kcody: i'm using a radeon 9600, and getting the bleeding-edge drivers was a pain in the ass
[00:02:00] Kelerion: Juski.. I read on post somewhere that you can't get a "move right" facility in themes.. so no horizontal menus.. thought you might know.. is that right?
[00:02:00] Juski: that's right
[00:02:00] Juski: would need a pretty big load of work to mythui libraries
[00:02:00] Kelerion: isn't that what minamilist-wide does though? or are they using a trick?
[00:03:00] Juski: it's a trick
[00:03:00] Kelerion: ahh ..thought it might be.. lol
[00:03:00] Pitchin_uk: sure thing its just that that is in my main pc (along with my athlon cpu) and my thoughts are to put them in my myth box and make myself a nice amd 64 bit linux box
[00:03:00] kcody: the software mpeg decompression isn't -that- onerous on the cpu, really... hardware scaling/colorspace is sufficient
[00:03:00] Juski: you can't have a single row of buttons, navigable by left & right arrows (side scrolling)
[00:03:00] Kelerion: I have no idea how it works.. so thought I'd ask :)
[00:03:00] Juski: if you _could_ do that I'd have a frontrow style theme in the works
[00:04:00] Pitchin_uk: so it is just a case of whether i pinch my ati from my machine or get a new one
[00:04:00] laga: anyone ever experienced stuttering with XvMC and nvidia? how would i fix this? i have approximately 20% idle. playback is smoother with libmpeg2 (approx 5% cpu free).
[00:04:00] kcody: Pitchin_uk: then go to your local retailer and see what ati products are on the clearance shelf – seriously – anything earlier than the X series is workable; preferably 9200 or lower
[00:04:00] kcody: Pitchin_uk: my instinct there is to go buy your desktop dream card, and use the one you have for your myth box
[00:05:00] Pitchin_uk: i like your thinking
[00:05:00] DaSkreech: Juski: how come? Was there a reason for limiting that?
[00:05:00] kcody: ati -looks- gorgeous with just xv support, and you've got plenty of cpu there to work with anyway – xvmc would be superfluous
[00:05:00] Juski: DaSkreech: look in the source & you'll see
[00:05:00] kcody: i was using the first-release all-in-wonder for the longest time; i just bought the 9600 pro because it was $25 on open-box
[00:05:00] Juski: set rows=1 in theme.xml & see what happens ;)
[00:06:00] Kelerion: the "trick" they're using probably explains the "page down" you need for setup then
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[00:07:00] Pitchin_uk: i suppose the other thing is sound card
[00:08:00] Juski: looks like my domain redirect is screwed
[00:08:00] kcody: pitchin_uk: what's your audio setup
[00:09:00] Kelerion: Juski: will those watermarks with the borders work with -wide?
[00:09:00] Juski: yep
[00:09:00] Juski: you prefer em?
[00:09:00] Juski: they might be different files though
[00:09:00] Kelerion: not sure.. I like it the way it is.. was just going to try them side-by-side
[00:09:00] kcody: fed by spdif or analog?
[00:10:00] Juski: gonna make a common set for both themes so users can pick & choose :)
[00:10:00] Kelerion: okies.. nice idea
[00:10:00] Kelerion: those are the ones you have on the screenshots.. thought they looked nice there
[00:10:00] Pitchin_uk: i have a marantz av reciever – my thought is either to use digital coaxial or optical if possible
[00:11:00] Kelerion: they *might* look a bit overpowering though.. so wasn't sure
[00:11:00] Kelerion: that what you thought too?
[00:11:00] Juski: yep
[00:11:00] kcody: Pitchin_uk: you want a creative labs product; i'm using the sb live with the digital dongle, but it sux for music... audigy 2 might be a good move
[00:11:00] Pitchin_uk: for full sound effect on dvds
[00:11:00] Juski: might bring the border back, but make it translucent
[00:12:00] Kelerion: I like the hardrive with the mythtv logo on btw.. in case no-one else noticed.. lol
[00:12:00] Juski: kcody: onboard via sound with digital coax sounds pretty damn spiffy in DTS :)
[00:12:00] Juski: Kelerion: made that un meself from scratch
[00:12:00] Juski: gonna re-do all the graphics myself at some point
[00:13:00] Pitchin_uk: Juski – does your motherboard have a digi coax connector on it then
[00:13:00] kcody: ttyl all, gotta run
[00:13:00] DaSkreech: Cool the last commit for Mouse stuff was Dec 11 2005
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[00:14:00] Juski: Pitchin_uk: yep
[00:15:00] Juski: don't go wasting money on expensive soundcards.. digital audio is the great leveller
[00:15:00] Pitchin_uk: spdif is that just another name for optical
[00:15:00] Juski: spdif is coaxial
[00:15:00] Juski: toslink is optical
[00:15:00] Pitchin_uk: ok cool
[00:15:00] Kelerion: spdif is a format.. the guy that published it didn't specify a medium for it
[00:16:00] Kelerion: but yeah.. thats how it's been implemented
[00:16:00] Juski: convention, if you will ;)
[00:16:00] Kelerion: I use toslink for my frontend
[00:18:00] Kelerion: I learnt that a few days ago when I spent 5 hours trying to figure how to get digital into my pvr250.. lol
[00:18:00] Pitchin_uk:
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[00:18:00] DaSkreech: Hooray people are awake in #mythtv
[00:18:00] Kelerion: and I'm blaming Bierdo for trashing my enthusiasm.. :P
[00:18:00] DaSkreech: :-)
[00:18:00] meriad: what exactly is MythTV-Games?
[00:19:00] Juski: you won't even be using the audigy's extra DSP bollocks, so why bother?
[00:19:00] Kelerion: meriad.. a frontend for xmame
[00:19:00] meriad: Kelerion- ah
[00:19:00] ** Juski edits some more xml **
[00:19:00] meriad: does mythtv recommend any hardware
[00:19:00] meriad: like capture cares
[00:20:00] meriad: cards*(
[00:20:00] Pitchin_uk: so what motherboard do you have?
[00:21:00] Juski: Pitchin_uk: via EPIA M-10000
[00:21:00] Juski: just use that as a frontend though
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[00:22:00] Pitchin_uk: im only looking to have one box to start with
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[00:23:00] Kelerion: I have an a7n8x deluxe.. quite an old mobo.. ran that as a combined FE/BE for a year or so.. worked quite admirably
[00:24:00] Kelerion: even ran with a framegrabber to start with and was fine.. as fine as 878 cards go
[00:24:00] Pitchin_uk: but am still after digital sound
[00:24:00] Kelerion: and that was am Athlon 2800 XP
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[00:25:00] Kelerion: Juski.. do dvb cards record digital audio streams?
[00:25:00] Kelerion: full surround I mean
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[00:26:00] Pitchin_uk: as the box is going to house my dvd player
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[00:27:00] Kelerion: I use an external dvd player to my a/v reciever
[00:27:00] Kelerion: that uses coaxial spdif so I'm happy
[00:28:00] Pitchin_uk: but my myth box is going to replace my dvd
[00:28:00] ** Kelerion nods **
[00:29:00] Pitchin_uk: anyway i will have to sleep on it – cheers for all your help guys most of my wish list is now complete
[00:29:00] Juski: Kelerion: just stereo in the UK
[00:29:00] Kelerion: ahh okies
[00:29:00] Kelerion: have fun Pitchin
[00:30:00] Pitchin_uk: night all
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[00:31:00] simon_c_home: Hi All, I've got some recordings that were origanally captuered with a v4l based card, and have been transcoded into mpeg4 (I presume) I'm now trying to edit them, but it won't go into edit mode. Anyone any ideas ?
[00:31:00] Kelerion: so.. the *only* way to get full surround in the uk would be to use a framegrabber card.. and get a Sky box with an optical out?
[00:31:00] D-side: hm. CAN you edit after being transcoded?
[00:32:00] D-side: oh shit. tomorrow is the BSG season opener
[00:32:00] Kelerion: BSG?
[00:33:00] simon_c_home: D-side: in the UK ?
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[00:33:00] kcody: what's this mean:
[00:33:00] Kelerion: wouldn't do it though.. am more bothered about good video than surround
[00:33:00] kcody: 2006-01–05 19:29:14.673 Timed out waiting for free video buffers.
[00:35:00] Kelerion: kcody.. no idea.. never seen it.. there's a few mentioned on the list about it though.. depends on your setup
[00:39:00] kcody: where's the list?
[00:39:00] Kelerion: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/
[00:40:00] Juski: yeh Kelerion: that's the only way to get full-on digeetal surround
[00:40:00] Kelerion: not worth it though I'd say
[00:41:00] Juski: is it even worth it though – cos it's not as if you'd be able to record the movie channels anyway (or is it?)
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[00:41:00] Kelerion: you could still use an svidia in from Sky.. with digital audio.. thats works (at least I know the video part does)
[00:42:00] D-side: i found myself never once recording movies off of digital cable when i had a box setup with mythtv.
[00:42:00] Juski: or do the ivtv drivers ignore _that_ bit in the video decoder chip?
[00:42:00] D-side: if i wanted a movie that bad, i'd rent the dvd.
[00:42:00] D-side: thats why i went back to analog inputs.
[00:42:00] Kelerion: by the time it gets through svideo.. it's just plain video
[00:43:00] Juski: I'd like to know if PVR cards can offer as good a picture as you can get with DVB-T
[00:43:00] Kelerion: will let you know next week when I get my aerial installed
[00:43:00] Juski: Kelerion: I beg to differ.. it'll always be protected.. try it with a VCR
[00:43:00] Kelerion: Juski.. I record from Sky movies every night.. it does work really
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[00:44:00] Juski: so er.. ivtv must do what I suspect in that case.. oh dear
[00:44:00] Kelerion: I know vcr's don't work.. I just presumed the scart kept the *bit* in tact but svideo didn't
[00:45:00] Juski: well I've yet to see a consumer level VCR that took RGB in
[00:45:00] Juski: VHS.. wait a sec.. wossat again?
[00:45:00] Juski: love it when people come round.. "where's your video?????"
[00:45:00] Kelerion: isn't that what the composites on the front of VCR's are?
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[00:46:00] Juski: Kelerion: er no.. RGB is the full video signal.. red, green & blue video & syncs.. front panels are stereo audio & composite
[00:46:00] Kelerion: ahh okies
[00:46:00] simon_c_home: Are we talking about sky box office movies, or just regular sky movies ?
[00:47:00] Kelerion: I *bet* though.. if you had a scart converter in each end (sky and vcr) and a svideo cable between the two.. you'd be able to record sky movies
[00:47:00] Kelerion: both types.. have recorded both
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[00:48:00] simon_c_home: I'm using scart out of a sky+ box, going into a composite input of a v4l capture card, and I'm *sure* I've captured sky movies.
[00:48:00] Juski: I doubt that a vcr would work even with a scart converter.. macrovision is in the spaces in the vid signal
[00:48:00] simon_c_home: But I'm going to double check now.
[00:48:00] kcody: only happens while audio is playing. thumbnails work fine.
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[00:49:00] Kelerion: am guessing here.. but I bet it's using a SCART cable that keep the macrovision intact
[00:49:00] Juski: no – it comes out of every output of the box
[00:49:00] Juski: you think they'd take chances like that?
[00:49:00] Kelerion: I just know it works over svideo.. am guessing at the rest
[00:50:00] Kelerion: so you might be right.. might be the ivtv
[00:50:00] Juski: standalone DVD recorders won't do it either – over compo, svid or rgb
[00:50:00] Kelerion: *but* I know I've done it with a framegrabber too
[00:51:00] Juski: so that er.. analog hole the MPAA are rabbitting on about.. maybe they're advocating doing away with the configuration bit.. the bit that the windows drivers use
[00:51:00] Juski: def. gonna buy a 150 this weekend
[00:51:00] Juski: and hey my theme is all done bar the shouting.. so I may aswell
[00:51:00] Kelerion: simon: you verified that?
[00:52:00] simon_c_home: Just remembered, I've definally captured movies from sky movies, and disney channel from my sky+ box. That's with a framgrabber.
[00:52:00] Juski: not in windows I bet
[00:52:00] simon_c_home: Juski: :-)
[00:52:00] Kelerion: and definately not with ms certified drivers.. lol
[00:52:00] Juski: I rest my case
[00:53:00] Juski: all hail the great bttv & ivtv registers!
[00:53:00] ** Kelerion chuckles **
[00:54:00] Kelerion: Juski.. do you have a source though? cable/sky?
[00:55:00] Juski: cable
[00:55:00] Kelerion: ahhh.. yer gonna love it then.. lol
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[00:55:00] Kelerion: don't forget the ir blaster too
[00:57:00] Juski: sorted
[00:57:00] Kelerion: ahh yes.. yer one of those electronics guys.. :P
[00:58:00] Juski: be really nifty if the ntl cable box had a web interface.. for doing stuff like changing channels from a webpage...
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[00:58:00] Beakster: hi
[00:58:00] Kelerion: all I know about a soldering iron is not to touch the hot end (but at least I know which end that is!)
[00:58:00] Beakster: when i chose watch tv, i cant change channel. I have tried the up and down cursors but they dont do anything
[00:58:00] Kelerion: Beakster: more info.. whats your setup?
[00:59:00] Juski: there were some students on course I did, didn't know which way round a resistor went in... (clue: either way).. and these were 1st year degree lads
[00:59:00] Beakster: im using an 878 card in an athlon 800 running fedora core 4
[00:59:00] Beakster: the scheduled recordings are ok
[00:59:00] Kelerion: I *used* to know what the bands meant on a resistor.. that was about it.. but forgot all that now.. do they still use bands?
[00:59:00] Beakster: its just i cant change channel when i select watch tv
[01:01:00] Kelerion: Beakster.. dunno then.. I don't use an internal tuner
[01:01:00] simon_c_home: Beakster: I remember this problem from when I set my card up, Trtying to remember the solution.
[01:01:00] Juski: Kelerion: yep
[01:01:00] simon_c_home: Beakster: the 878 card is a frame grabber isn't it ?
[01:03:00] Kelerion: yup.. it is
[01:04:00] simon_c_home: Beakster: IIRC, the problem was there was no channel frequency info set. I ended up configuring mythweb, finding the channel frequency info for my location, and inputting the frequencies in the mythweb config screen
[01:04:00] Kelerion: but his recordings are working alright
[01:04:00] simon_c_home: it would cycle between inputs, but the RF input wouldn't change channel. until it had channel frequency info in it.
[01:04:00] Juski: ermm.. is this a bug in 0.18? could not find image "/usr/share/mythtv/themes/default/trans-dbackground.png" but there are no references to it in any of my xml files
[01:05:00] simon_c_home: Humm, If recordings are from the rf, then yes. It's a different problem.
[01:05:00] Juski: Kelerion: you getting that error?
[01:05:00] Kelerion: trans-background.png?
[01:06:00] Kelerion: there's mentioned of it in the lists (not -dbackground)
[01:07:00] Juski: hmmm
[01:08:00] Kelerion: what page are you getting it on?
[01:08:00] Juski: programguide area I think
[01:08:00] Juski: maybe programdetails
[01:09:00] Juski: ahh. watch recordings
[01:09:00] Kelerion: not getting it here
[01:10:00] Juski: I bet you have the file
[01:11:00] Kelerion: nope
[01:11:00] kcody: i'm still in the shitter here. video playback comes in 1s spurts except in thumbnails – seems to be a sync problem
[01:12:00] Kelerion: root@livingroom:~# locate trans-dbackground.png
[01:12:00] Kelerion: root@livingroom:~#
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[01:12:00] Kelerion: not got it
[01:12:00] Juski: kcody: missing video acceration
[01:12:00] Juski: *acceleration
[01:12:00] kcody: Juski: don't think so, xine play fine
[01:12:00] Juski: Kelerion: weird
[01:12:00] Juski: kcody: try a different mpeg decoder if you're using mpeg capture
[01:12:00] kcody: everything worked until a reboot
[01:12:00] Kelerion: am on svn.. if that would make a difference
[01:12:00] Juski: maybe
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[01:15:00] Kelerion: btw.. technically.. I think a dvb card should be a better picture – if all variables are equal – mainly because a pvr250 (at least in the uk) would usually be used by an external tuner.. so you'd be relying on the output of the cable/sky box
[01:15:00] Kelerion: or am I missing something?
[01:15:00] kcody: Kelerion: dvb is already a digital signal
[01:15:00] Kelerion: kcody.. thats what I'm thinking
[01:16:00] kcody: Kelerion: output of any cable/satellite box is an analog signal that must be ADC'ed and MPEG'ed
[01:16:00] Kelerion: so technically it *should* be a better picture
[01:16:00] kcody: Kelerion: therefore all variables aside, dvb should always be a better picture
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[01:16:00] Kelerion: kcody.. yup
[01:16:00] kcody: just switched to libmpeg2, let's see what happens...
[01:16:00] Kelerion: am looking forward to testing that theory next week
[01:16:00] Juski: wonder how much of a difference there is
[01:17:00] Juski: kcody: you might need xvmc, depending on what you're trying to watch & your CPU
[01:17:00] kcody: Juski: with my decoder? none.
[01:17:00] Kelerion: Juski.. have found with my 250 that the picture is somewhat *dulled*.. and I bet the dvb isn't
[01:17:00] kcody: Juski: didn't need xvmc 10 minutes before i rebooted... and anyway this thing could probably display live video to an unaccelerated framebuffer
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[01:18:00] kcody: Kelerion: that's probably overly aggressive noise reduction at work
[01:18:00] Kelerion: although saying that.. my wife swears the picture through the myth box is better than straight from the sky box.. she says the flesh tones are more natural
[01:18:00] Juski: hmm.. how the heck has this user managed this? http://tube013.org/stuff/myth/Album-level.png
[01:18:00] dtm: Kelerion: that's entirely possible
[01:18:00] dtm: Kelerion: depending on postprocessing filters. probably less grainy too. i find that all DVDs are naturally grainy for some reason.
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[01:19:00] kcody: Kelerion: also likely, remember that straight from the sky box is -still- an analog transfer... dvb is the first step for routing virgin mpeg data to the video card, potentially -perfect- display, as in what the MPAA is most afraid of
[01:19:00] Kelerion: I'm using mythtv *from* the sky box
[01:19:00] Juski: hence the broadcast flag
[01:20:00] Juski: if they could make self-destructing DVDs they would
[01:20:00] kcody: Juski: if that ever passes, it will create a bigger black market than -drugs-.
[01:20:00] Kelerion: and am using a Kernel filter for playback
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[01:20:00] kcody: Juski: if they could make single use televisions and automobiles they would
[01:20:00] Juski: lol
[01:21:00] Juski: the already make single use toilet pa... hah... that argument has a hole...
[01:21:00] kcody: Juski: for that matter, if they could force EULA's for fast food burgers, they would...
[01:21:00] Juski: caution: may cause fatness
[01:21:00] Kelerion: that reminds me.. anyone want to buy cheap toilet paper? only used once! call me dell-boy
[01:22:00] kcody: NOTE: By unwrapping this burger, you agree to all terms of the following license: BurgerCorp hereby owns all your body parts for transplantation purposes immediately following your death. Not responsible for ill health effects assosciated with the consumption of our product.
[01:22:00] kcody: FDA approval pending.
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[01:22:00] a1fa: yo
[01:23:00] Kelerion: my painkillers have a "side effects" section.. and one of them is "may cause death"! am serious! lol
[01:23:00] kcody: "Life sucks. Get a helmet."
[01:23:00] a1fa: Life Sucks. Get a Bed
[01:24:00] a1fa: ivtv driver is out
[01:24:00] kormoc: ooh?
[01:24:00] spiderworm: hi all, it seems to make sense to me, but i want to be sure... if i get a capture card with a hardware mpeg encoder, it should free up my cpu in a big way, right?
[01:24:00] Kelerion: a new one?
[01:24:00] kcody: (You agree that your next-of-kin will pay all emergency medical transport and surgical costs.)
[01:24:00] kormoc: spiderworm, yes
[01:24:00] Kelerion: spiderworm.. yup
[01:24:00] kormoc: a1fa, it wasn't released before?
[01:24:00] Kelerion: *big* way
[01:24:00] Juski: I don't geddit. I can't get my mythmusic view to screw up like a user has managed
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[01:25:00] a1fa: last month
[01:25:00] a1fa: ;P
[01:25:00] Kelerion: Juski.. I have mythmusic.. whats the screwup?
[01:25:00] a1fa: i just r0x0red my mythtv
[01:25:00] Juski: http://tube013.org/stuff/myth/Album-level.png
[01:25:00] a1fa: god i f0cked up so bad
[01:25:00] a1fa: i forgot to backup my script
[01:25:00] spiderworm: ok... has anyone tested the HDTV cards with mpeg encoders listed here: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-3.html#ss3.1 ?
[01:25:00] Juski: and http://tube013.org/stuff/myth/Track-Level.png
[01:25:00] spiderworm: i would like to know how well they work before blowing $150 plus on them
[01:26:00] Juski: spiderworm: HDTV cards don't have mpeg encoders on em.. the stream just gets dumped to your HDD
[01:26:00] spiderworm: oh... bummer
[01:26:00] Kelerion: erm.. I can see mine, Juski.. don't know if it's right or not
[01:26:00] Juski: I'll just email back , with a typical dev answer
[01:26:00] Kelerion: kinda looks right
[01:26:00] Juski: "mine works"
[01:27:00] kcody: Juski: any other ideas? wasn't the decoder library.
[01:27:00] Juski: kcody: no idea.. unless you've suddenly lost DMA
[01:27:00] Kelerion: has currently playing track/details and visualisation on the right.. no borders on the top-half of the screen.. that right?
[01:27:00] Juski: or maybe your video driver hasn't loaded
[01:27:00] kcody: Juski: how would i check that?
[01:27:00] kcody: dri seems live
[01:27:00] Juski: Kelerion: yeh
[01:28:00] Kelerion: okies cool.. so your email can say it works for other too :P
[01:28:00] Juski: kcody: try glxgears – anything in the low hundreds is pretty bad
[01:28:00] Juski: Kelerion – try edit playlist
[01:28:00] kormoc: kcody, glxinfo | grep -i direct
[01:28:00] kormoc: kcody, if you have direct rendering: yes, you're good to go
[01:29:00] a1fa: unstable is so nasty
[01:29:00] kcody: direct rendering enabled, i'm getting only 200fps though
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[01:29:00] Kelerion: if I select "Artists (xxxxx)" that doesn't appear on the left when I select it
[01:29:00] Kelerion: can't remember if it's supposed to or not
[01:29:00] kormoc: kcody, what is your xorg section for your videocard?
[01:29:00] kcody: was getting 1000 before the reboot
[01:30:00] Kelerion: alll looks usable though
[01:30:00] kormoc: 1000 for a videocard like yours is very bad
[01:30:00] kcody: Section "Device"
[01:30:00] kcody: Identifier "My Video Card"
[01:30:00] kcody: BoardName "Unknown"
[01:30:00] kcody: Driver "radeon"
[01:30:00] kcody: Option "AGPMode" "4"
[01:30:00] kcody: Option "RenderAccel" "on"
[01:30:00] kcody: Option "XaaNoScanlineImageWriteRect"
[01:30:00] kcody: Option "XaaNoScanlineCPUToScreenColorExpandFill"
[01:30:00] kcody: EndSection
[01:30:00] kcody: kormoc: yeah it is
[01:30:00] kormoc: kcody, that's your issue, you need to fglrx driver
[01:30:00] kcody: 200 is ridiculous
[01:30:00] kcody: kormoc: that didn't work worth shit
[01:30:00] kormoc: *need to get
[01:30:00] kcody: and like i said, the r300 driver worked great until i rebooted
[01:31:00] kormoc: what did you change on your reboot?
[01:31:00] ** kormoc uses fglrx on his work box quite well **
[01:31:00] kcody: nothing – had been running everything i'd built today
[01:31:00] kormoc: dmesg?
[01:31:00] Juski: Kelerion: the mythmusic UI is undergoing discussion at the mo'
[01:31:00] Kelerion: I use fglrx on one of my frontends too
[01:31:00] kormoc: xorg log doesn't say anything?
[01:31:00] Juski: what's fglrx?
[01:31:00] kormoc: ati's driver
[01:32:00] Juski: ah
[01:32:00] Kelerion: Juski.. okies.. I don't use it really.. just installed it and pointed it my music folder.. can't remember last time I used it
[01:32:00] kcody: kormoc: nothing significant
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[01:32:00] kormoc: welp, something is significant
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[01:33:00] kcody: overlapping mtrr warnings in the dmesg
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[01:33:00] kcody: not showing a dma in use (cat /proc/dma)
[01:33:00] Kel-kippin: g'night folks.. have a good 'un :)
[01:33:00] kcody: looks like dri is only pretending to work
[01:33:00] jonK: anyone running the 2.6.15 kernel?
[01:33:00] kcody: let me take this up with the dri folks...
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[01:41:00] a1fa: i am
[01:41:00] a1fa: jonK: i just got it :P
[01:42:00] a1fa: i am compiling all the shit necessary right now
[01:42:00] a1fa: ivtvdriver 0.4.1
[01:42:00] a1fa: newest nvidia crap
[01:43:00] a1fa: 1.0–8178
[01:44:00] eiggirC: Mine's working – I don't fuck with the drivers if they're working.
[01:44:00] a1fa: mine worked
[01:44:00] a1fa: but the boxor was freezing up
[01:44:00] a1fa: and i was getting dma errors
[01:44:00] a1fa: so i decided to rebuild
[01:44:00] a1fa: i was wondering how far is 0.19
[01:45:00] a1fa: i dont want to do svn if it is two days away, you feelin me?
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[01:46:00] a1fa: its looking secxy with the new kernel
[01:48:00] Captain_Murdoch: more than 2 days, you're safe.
[01:48:00] a1fa: yeah dude
[01:50:00] a1fa: ivtv driver sucks
[01:50:00] a1fa: why do they send firmware ziped
[01:50:00] GreyFoxx: What's wrong with that ?
[01:50:00] dtm: i got a brand new 2.6.14, upgraded from 2.4.22 <3
[01:50:00] dtm: on ppc
[01:50:00] GreyFoxx: and how does that make the driver suck ?
[01:51:00] a1fa: dtm: 2.6.14 crashed
[01:51:00] a1fa: for me
[01:51:00] dtm: :-[
[01:53:00] a1fa: it makes it suck real time
[01:53:00] Juski: dammit! I'm jiggerred if I can reproduce any of the problems peeps have seen with this theme..
[01:53:00] a1fa: who heard file distribution for linux via zip
[01:53:00] a1fa: .tgz
[01:53:00] a1fa: at least
[01:54:00] Juski: a1fa: don't go all vinegary cos of that.. hardly a sign of appreciation of the ivtv guys is it?
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[01:55:00] Krazylegz: Is there even a difference between .tgz and .tar.gz ?
[01:55:00] a1fa: no
[01:55:00] a1fa: no
[01:55:00] a1fa: Juski: i appreciate it
[01:55:00] a1fa: but why do they make it that way?
[01:55:00] a1fa: why dont they merge their code with kenrel?
[01:55:00] a1fa: and submit to kernel tree
[01:55:00] GreyFoxx: They are working on doing that
[01:55:00] Juski: that's what they've started doing
[01:56:00] a1fa: and whats up with the firmware
[01:56:00] Juski: the firmware isn't technically supposed to be distributed
[01:56:00] a1fa: and make scripts install drivers to "2.6.15" stripping my "-1-k7-a1fa"
[01:57:00] Juski: you're on the bleeeeeeeding edge, so expect to have to shed a bit of it ;)
[01:57:00] a1fa: true
[01:57:00] ** Juski wonders how long it'll take an ivtv enabled kernel to make it into umbongo **
[01:58:00] a1fa: ivtv: version 0.4.1 (tagged release) loading
[01:58:00] a1fa: :P
[01:58:00] a1fa: i like this
[01:58:00] Juski: I've had nowt but hassle with SVN mythtv these last few days.. but hey.. it's SVN.. a whole new learning curve
[01:59:00] Kel-kippin: at least shuttleworth is turning around releases quicker than debian does :P
[01:59:00] dasOp: anything turns out releases faster than debian
[01:59:00] a1fa: Kel-kippin: unstable is fine
[01:59:00] dasOp: even slack does :P
[01:59:00] Juski: Kelerion with an intelligent chat bot?
[01:59:00] Juski: ;)
[01:59:00] Kel-kippin: nah.. heading off now.. lol
[02:00:00] Juski: me too shortly. night
[02:00:00] Kel-kippin: g;night! lol
[02:00:00] Juski: work in the AM.. looking fwd to it
[02:00:00] Juski: get me away from that fkin theme
[02:00:00] a1fa: GreyFoxx: let me see your xorg.conf
[02:00:00] GreyFoxx: I ain't yer bitch
[02:00:00] a1fa: please
[02:00:00] a1fa: i need to see that tv-out
[02:01:00] a1fa: and overscan
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[02:01:00] a1fa: :P
[02:01:00] GreyFoxx: mind yer tone son
[02:01:00] GreyFoxx: http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/xorg.conf
[02:01:00] a1fa: sorry man
[02:01:00] a1fa: its the culture thing
[02:02:00] a1fa: i was on the phone with customers today
[02:02:00] a1fa: ordering them to do crap
[02:02:00] a1fa: and my co-worker was like
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[02:02:00] a1fa: "please wouldnt hurt once in a while"
[02:02:00] Juski: I get "can you just".. (insert difficult task here)... JUST?!
[02:03:00] a1fa: lol
[02:03:00] a1fa: ;P
[02:03:00] a1fa: can does it for me
[02:03:00] a1fa: i had to dig swimming pools
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[02:03:00] a1fa: and unload rocks for free
[02:03:00] a1fa: so its all cool
[02:03:00] kormoc: Sure, I could just do that, but it won't work without x, y, z, and t changes, which arn't just
[02:03:00] GreyFoxx: and I use nvidia-settings for changing the overscan after X starts so I don't really use what I have in that file
[02:04:00] a1fa: i just need your options
[02:04:00] a1fa: you have them all documented in one spot
[02:06:00] Juski: that bloody swik thing is #1 in google when I search for my theme.. grrr.. and I can't even edit the wiki pages.. grrrrrrrrrrr
[02:06:00] Juski: time for a whois
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[02:06:00] dasOp: swik should be shot
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[02:06:00] Goose-Npa: hello
[02:06:00] dasOp: it kills google usability
[02:07:00] Juski: sourcelabs inc
[02:07:00] Goose-Npa: hello
[02:07:00] dasOp: missile away!
[02:07:00] Juski: hello
[02:07:00] a1fa: xorg is up
[02:07:00] a1fa: :p
[02:07:00] Goose-Npa: any idea why mythtv wont play a dvd when i go to play dvd
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[02:07:00] Goose-Npa: any idea?
[02:08:00] a1fa: glx is finally working
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[02:08:00] Goose-Npa: what command lind should i have in the dvd settings? im using xnie
[02:08:00] Goose-Npa: xine
[02:09:00] a1fa: GreyFoxx
[02:09:00] a1fa: thanks again
[02:09:00] a1fa: anybody know where to get dpkg for mythtv?
[02:09:00] Juski: xine -pfhq --no-splash %s
[02:10:00] Juski: oops thats for videos
[02:10:00] Juski: Goose-Npa: xine -pfhq --no-splash dvd://
[02:10:00] Juski: and I found it using Google btw
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[02:10:00] Goose-Npa: an does your dvd drive have to be linked to /dev/dvd?
[02:11:00] Juski: pretty much, yeah
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[02:11:00] Juski: or you tell myth where your dvd drive lives
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[02:13:00] Juski: and now it really is time for bed
[02:14:00] Goose-Npa: hmm that doesn't work
[02:14:00] a1fa: i am buying a new box for mythfrontend
[02:15:00] Nichotin: is it normal to only get output only when pressing some of the buttons when doing cat /dev/lirc/0? I have a A415-HPG remote
[02:15:00] a1fa: anything other than? http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian/dists . . . mythtv.old/?
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[02:16:00] Krazylegz: Heh. I'm going to RIT tonight. I have to find that kid and kick some bubkus.
[02:16:00] Nichotin: the back button gives no output, for instance
[02:16:00] Nichotin: and only a few of the numerical buttons do
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[02:17:00] Nichotin: but they give out crazy shit like line breaks and @'s
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[02:18:00] Nichotin: and I get absolutely no output if i run irc
[02:18:00] Nichotin: irw
[02:19:00] ** a1fa doesnt want to do svn version.. please 0.18? debs? **
[02:21:00] dasOp: some guy called marillion (or marillon, cant remember) does debs now after mdz stopped
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[02:23:00] a1fa: anybody?
[02:23:00] a1fa: svn?
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[02:25:00] a1fa: is svn functional?
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[02:25:00] a1fa: fuck
[02:25:00] a1fa: i'll do svn
[02:26:00] a1fa: i might as well get burned
[02:26:00] a1fa: ya know what i mean
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[02:30:00] a1fa: svn is fun
[02:30:00] a1fa: I love source
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[02:33:00] a1fa: running configure
[02:33:00] blayne: Hi all. Has anyone setup a remote front end over a wireless network?
[02:34:00] a1fa: ./configure: line 2952: qmake: command not found
[02:34:00] blayne: Wireless works, but when connected via cable to a LAN port, video streams smoothly. Over the WAP, it stops and starts.
[02:35:00] a1fa: ;P
[02:35:00] blayne: cray-zah
[02:35:00] a1fa: yeah
[02:35:00] blayne: Turned off encryption just to see if that was the difference, and it is still choppy
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[02:36:00] blayne: what the?
[02:36:00] a1fa: not enough bandwidth
[02:36:00] Guyfromhe: what speed is your wireless?
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[02:37:00] blayne: It's an 802.11g G54 from D-Link
[02:37:00] blayne: bit rate is set to 54 Mb/s
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[02:37:00] Guyfromhe: hm that should be able to handle it
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[02:38:00] blayne: The machine is not so fast. But video is fine through the LAN.
[02:38:00] blayne: Can't think of what else to check.
[02:38:00] Guyfromhe: maybe theres not enough bandwidth
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[02:39:00] blayne: Between the router and adapter, or my connection overall?
[02:39:00] a1fa: how long does it take to compile mythtv
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[02:40:00] blayne: Never compiled it. Haven't encountered the need yet. But I'm still pretty new at it.
[02:41:00] Guyfromhe: between router and adapter probably
[02:41:00] Guyfromhe: if thats the only factor
[02:41:00] blayne: How can I test what that is?
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[02:42:00] Guyfromhe: well if it only doesn't work on wireless it's probably wireless
[02:42:00] blayne: Any network tools for gnome that would show that? bandwidth, signal strength?
[02:42:00] Guyfromhe: you could see what speed you get between your backend and frontend
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[02:42:00] kcody: hi again everyone
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[02:43:00] EnterUserName: hi hows the cvs mythtv doing lately?
[02:43:00] kcody: this can't be a pure x/dri problem: xine plays the .nuv file just fine
[02:43:00] kcody: this is a bad interaction between mythtv and cvs r300 drivers
[02:43:00] blayne: Guyfromhe: Through the front end? Command line?
[02:44:00] Guyfromhe: is either running a webserver?
[02:44:00] blayne: I can start httpd
[02:44:00] Guyfromhe: use wget to fetch a file from one to the other
[02:45:00] blayne: Good idea. I'll do it, and compare the wireless connection to the LAN.
[02:45:00] blayne: Thanks!
[02:45:00] a1fa: mythdialogs.h:7:18: error: qdom.h: No such file or directory
[02:45:00] a1fa: fuck
[02:45:00] a1fa: its there
[02:46:00] a1fa: /usr/include/qt4/Qt/qdom.h
[02:46:00] EnterUserName: hows mythtv cvs working
[02:46:00] EnterUserName: any good?
[02:46:00] ** EnterUserName wonders before he installs it **
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[02:48:00] a1fa: fuck
[02:48:00] stf28: Hello... I'm having some problem with the ir-blaster caming with the pvr-150... some one can help me!
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[02:49:00] kcody: stf28: which version... media center model 1062?
[02:49:00] stf28: <kcody> What !?!
[02:49:00] EnterUserName: im having problems withmy remote too
[02:49:00] EnterUserName: it keeps crashing after a period of time
[02:50:00] EnterUserName: is that what ahppens for you?
[02:50:00] Guyfromhe: your remote is crashing?
[02:50:00] stf28: The remote is working but i can't change channel
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[02:50:00] EnterUserName: well it works for like 1 hour then stops or less im using lirc
[02:50:00] EnterUserName: but iver learned to live with it
[02:50:00] EnterUserName: whats OpenGL vsync or directfb
[02:51:00] kcody: stf28: do -any- remote controls work
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[02:51:00] EnterUserName: Hi all, HOw do i get directfb and opengl vsync working for mythtv ?
[02:51:00] stf28: I have see into the Jarold's guide a script that check the availabilty of the remote controle... Look at this...
[02:52:00] stf28: kcody: No only the hauppage remote control
[02:52:00] a1fa: gay
[02:52:00] a1fa: this bitch wont compile
[02:53:00] EnterUserName: Hey all. How do you get directfb or opengl to work with mythttv
[02:54:00] kcody: stf28: did you set up the ~/.mythtv/lircrc ?
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[02:56:00] stf28: kcody: yes I have setup this file
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[02:57:00] kcody: stf28: and lircd is running?
[02:57:00] stf28: kcody: Yes the lircd is running. The remote is working but the ir-blaster not
[02:58:00] stf28: The ir-blaster can change channel for the BEV or Dish satellite
[02:58:00] stf28: also called external box
[02:58:00] Guyfromhe: speaking of blasters, is there a decent one out there thats not $100
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[03:00:00] kcody: stf28: oic... don't know, didn't bother with the blaster
[03:01:00] a1fa: hey
[03:01:00] a1fa: what is that script that populates mysql database?
[03:01:00] defaultro: hi guys
[03:02:00] kcody: turning off opengl sync fixed my problem, it seems
[03:02:00] defaultro: anyone uses fusion hdtv card?
[03:02:00] stf28: mythfilldatabase
[03:02:00] EnterUserName: hey all
[03:02:00] EnterUserName: how doy ou compile mythtv with opengl vsync and directfb?
[03:02:00] EnterUserName: and where do i find what its for?
[03:02:00] a1fa: no
[03:02:00] a1fa: not that one
[03:02:00] a1fa: that fills the original settings to the database
[03:02:00] a1fa: that creates tables and shit
[03:03:00] a1fa: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'repeat,stereo,subtitled,hdtv,closecaptioned,tvrating,partnumber,
[03:03:00] defaultro: a1fa, familiar with hdtv fusion card?
[03:03:00] a1fa: no sorry
[03:03:00] defaultro: np
[03:04:00] dasOp: alfa: mc.sql
[03:04:00] a1fa: dasOp: hm.. i am using mysql-5.0
[03:04:00] a1fa: wtf
[03:04:00] dasOp: well sorry then
[03:05:00] dasOp: you want to check the mailinglist archives
[03:05:00] dasOp: mythtv uses some words that are reserved in 5.0
[03:05:00] defaultro: what do you want a1fa?
[03:05:00] a1fa: ?
[03:05:00] dasOp: (or was that 5.1?)
[03:05:00] a1fa: Your MySQL connection id is 24 to server version: 5.0.18-Debian_1-log
[03:06:00] a1fa: i cant believe this shit
[03:06:00] a1fa: no fucking way
[03:07:00] a1fa: you must be fucking kidding with me
[03:08:00] a1fa: omfg
[03:08:00] a1fa: i feel like kicking the shit out of it
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[03:09:00] a1fa: kormoc
[03:09:00] kormoc: a1fa
[03:09:00] a1fa: sup man
[03:09:00] a1fa: damn it
[03:09:00] kcody: hiya kormoc
[03:10:00] kormoc: hihi
[03:10:00] a1fa: mythtv is not compatible with mysql 5.0
[03:10:00] kormoc: sure it is
[03:10:00] dasOp: was fixed in svn tho
[03:10:00] kormoc: with the correct patch
[03:10:00] dasOp: dunno what version you're running
[03:10:00] defaultro: hi kormoc, how's everything?
[03:10:00] kormoc: tis goin well overall, how are you?
[03:10:00] kcody: wackiness was in the dri/drm... xine played the nuv's just fine... so i rebuilt without opengl sync, and all is well
[03:10:00] defaultro: been very in the office that's why I'm not on the channel
[03:10:00] defaultro: very busy :)
[03:11:00] defaultro: glad my mythbox is still running fine
[03:11:00] kcody: apparently, it worked before because i'd gone through several attempts without rebooting... and either the kernel drm or the ati driver left it initialized more correctly
[03:11:00] kormoc: defaultro, yay, that's good to hear
[03:11:00] a1fa: ok
[03:11:00] a1fa: svn version wont compile for me
[03:11:00] kormoc: brb
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[03:12:00] kcody: can anyone spare me a doc search for fetching the channel icons?
[03:12:00] a1fa: dasOp
[03:12:00] a1fa: what you got ?
[03:12:00] dasOp: 'repeat' is a keyword nowadays
[03:12:00] dasOp: so change 'repeat' in the mc.sql and in ./libs/libmythtv/datadirect.cpp
[03:12:00] dasOp: to 'isrepeat'
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[03:13:00] defaultro: i actually would like to add another hdtv card. Do you have info on fusion hdtv card lite? I'm planning to buy the Lite version
[03:13:00] a1fa: sucks man..
[03:13:00] a1fa: is that fixed in svn?
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[03:13:00] dasOp: yeah
[03:13:00] dasOp: its such a small fix, you might as well do it
[03:13:00] kormoc: defaultro, not that I know off
[03:13:00] defaultro: ok
[03:14:00] a1fa: source wont compile for me dude
[03:14:00] defaultro: you dasOp, familiar with fusion lite cardS?
[03:14:00] dasOp: no
[03:14:00] defaultro: i can't find any good article about fusion and myth as compared to airp2c and myth
[03:15:00] dasOp: in my region, dvb cards handle hdtv just fine :P
[03:15:00] dasOp: marketing crap puttin it on the labels
[03:15:00] dasOp: alfa: not even 18.1?
[03:15:00] a1fa: nope
[03:15:00] a1fa: i am giving it another shot
[03:15:00] defaultro: anyways, when I add a new card, should I create a new account in zap2it or just a new line up?
[03:15:00] a1fa: i have all the qt libraries
[03:15:00] a1fa: and include path is right
[03:15:00] a1fa: but it says it doesnt exist
[03:16:00] dasOp: installed manually or using system packages?
[03:16:00] a1fa: apt-get install qt4-dev ...
[03:16:00] a1fa: build-essential is also there ;P
[03:16:00] dasOp: alfa: prepare teh hate
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[03:16:00] dasOp: mythtv is still qt3 :P
[03:16:00] a1fa: oh shiot
[03:16:00] a1fa: :P
[03:16:00] a1fa: apt-get remove
[03:17:00] dasOp: make sure you get the -mt stuff
[03:17:00] a1fa: of course
[03:17:00] ** a1fa sucks **
[03:17:00] a1fa: :P
[03:17:00] a1fa: i suck dude
[03:17:00] a1fa: i was cracking my head
[03:17:00] a1fa: it said > 3.0
[03:17:00] a1fa: but not > 3.0 < 4.0
[03:18:00] dasOp: qt4 wasnt out when that was written
[03:18:00] a1fa: that shit should've been backwards compatible
[03:19:00] kormoc: major versions tend not to be
[03:19:00] dasOp: it almost is
[03:19:00] dasOp: a day and you're there
[03:19:00] dasOp: but no dist has dropped qt3 yet so the need isnt pressing I guess
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[03:20:00] Chutt: there's enough stuff different in qt4 that porting myth will be non-trivial.
[03:20:00] a1fa: my cat just scratched me
[03:20:00] a1fa: i was trying to remove a dingleberry out of his ass
[03:20:00] Chutt: and it won't be possible to keep support for both versions in the code
[03:21:00] a1fa: lets keep it 3.0 then
[03:21:00] a1fa: :P
[03:21:00] ** a1fa running make again **
[03:21:00] a1fa: i was kind a sad
[03:21:00] a1fa: head-butted twice
[03:21:00] kormoc: Chutt, overall, is qt4 a better release or are the changes sorta meh?
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[03:22:00] a1fa: -I../../../../include/qt3
[03:22:00] Chutt: i dunno, haven't looked into it terribly much
[03:22:00] a1fa: good :P
[03:22:00] a1fa: Chutt: u player
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[03:23:00] dasOp: for one thing, qt4 will allow a decent win frontend to be built :)
[03:23:00] ** a1fa is running svn fromnow on **
[03:24:00] a1fa: mythphone comes w/ it right ?
[03:24:00] a1fa: ;P
[03:25:00] dasOp: dunno if its in the regular or plugins package
[03:25:00] a1fa: i guess i a have to compile the modules speratly
[03:25:00] dasOp: I use 0 stuff other than epg, recordings and livetv
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[03:26:00] Guyfromhe|laptop: me too
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[03:26:00] a1fa: i use weather
[03:26:00] Guyfromhe|laptop: i don't really
[03:26:00] a1fa: and i want caller id on my tv
[03:26:00] Guyfromhe|laptop: it's just a novelty for me
[03:26:00] kormoc: I use recording and mythweb
[03:26:00] a1fa: i feel lazy reaching two feet away
[03:26:00] Guyfromhe|laptop: and I havn't had time to setup caller id
[03:26:00] Guyfromhe|laptop: i use mythweb too actually
[03:26:00] a1fa: i love mythweb
[03:27:00] Guyfromhe|laptop: don't we all
[03:27:00] kormoc: when Cardoe gets a .19-pre ebuild done, I can use the svn mythweb and actually add some nice features I've been waiting on
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[03:28:00] a1fa: kormoc: like what?
[03:28:00] piku: hey guys.. I use mythtv 0.18.1 gentoo package... recent it started doing something a little weird.. the video isn't matching hte time displayed...
[03:28:00] a1fa: rning: 'class QSqlDriverCreatorBase' has virtual functions but non-virtual destructor
[03:28:00] a1fa: :P
[03:28:00] piku: such that when I fast forward, it'll actually go a little behind the video
[03:28:00] a1fa: sure is bichy
[03:28:00] piku: commercial skip is completely off, etc
[03:28:00] kormoc: Option for paging of the recorded shows section, Statistics section akin to count_watched.pl, a database check util, making sure the db and the files on the drive are in sync
[03:29:00] piku: I tried deleting recordedmarkup and checking db integrity and it's all good and new recordings exhibit same issue
[03:29:00] Guyfromhe|laptop: hm i can't decide if I want a new OSD or not
[03:30:00] piku: do you guys recommend that 0.18.2 7882 prerelease?
[03:30:00] a1fa: Chutt: whats up w/ virtual destructor warning
[03:30:00] Guyfromhe|laptop: i thought this default OSD was good at first but it's actually awful
[03:30:00] kormoc: piku, are you gentoo?
[03:30:00] a1fa: piku: eat pickles, use svn
[03:30:00] a1fa: OMFG
[03:31:00] a1fa: it didnt compile again
[03:31:00] Guyfromhe|laptop: OYFG?
[03:31:00] a1fa: you must be shitting me
[03:31:00] piku: yeah someone told me once that the cvs/svn version is subject to "issues" ;)
[03:31:00] kormoc: imagine that, the development unstable branch is unstable and under development...
[03:31:00] a1fa: make[2]: *** [libmyth-0.19.so.0.19.0] Error 1
[03:31:00] a1fa: omfg
[03:31:00] a1fa: no errors
[03:31:00] piku: yeah I prefer stability for something like this ;)
[03:31:00] a1fa: and exits with an error
[03:31:00] kormoc: piku, if you are gentoo, please do test it if you can, it's rather stable
[03:31:00] Guyfromhe|laptop: ooh my frontend crashed
[03:31:00] piku: I have enough problems with myth, my girlfriend will kick my butt if I knowingly make it worse
[03:31:00] Guyfromhe|laptop: sucks
[03:32:00] kormoc: a1fa, the errors are above it, nested in the compile output
[03:32:00] a1fa: kormoc: its trying to link
[03:32:00] piku: kormoc, the 7882 prerelease?
[03:32:00] piku: I'll install it if you guys give it a vote of confidence... It's just masked still out of portage
[03:32:00] a1fa: http://pastebin.ca/35948
[03:32:00] kormoc: piku, yeah, if you are gentoo, it's decent to go, there is an issue with the init.d script, but Cardoe would love more testers. I've been running it for about a week fine
[03:32:00] a1fa: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXxf86vm
[03:33:00] a1fa: no way man
[03:33:00] piku: kormoc, is it ok to use a 0.18.1 frontend with that?
[03:33:00] piku: kormoc, my frontend is a fedora box
[03:34:00] kormoc: piku, no, you need to keep them the same version
[03:34:00] piku: I'll see if I can find a fedora package then
[03:34:00] kormoc: a1fa, the answer to your problem is to not use qt4.
[03:34:00] a1fa: kormoc: i am using qt3
[03:35:00] a1fa: omfg
[03:35:00] a1fa: can anybody take a look at it
[03:35:00] piku: oh yeah.. there's a reported issue with mythtv and mysql 5
[03:35:00] a1fa: http://pastebin.ca/35948
[03:35:00] piku: where the db connection is lost and kicking it doesn't bring it back
[03:35:00] kormoc: huh, that's an issue others with qt4 have been having
[03:35:00] piku: I had this issue too and reverted to mysql 4.1.x
[03:35:00] piku: since mysql 5 in general seems like a hunk of turd
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[03:35:00] kormoc: pigeon, ooh?
[03:35:00] a1fa: i removed qt4
[03:35:00] kormoc: erm, that was to piku
[03:35:00] kormoc: piku, I use mysql 5 quite fine at home and at work
[03:36:00] piku: yeah.. the issue doesn't seem to be myth related but mysql 5 related
[03:36:00] piku: supposedly fixed in 5.0.16+ but I was running 5.0.18 and had the issue
[03:36:00] piku: I was losing too many recordings so I gave up
[03:36:00] a1fa: suck
[03:36:00] a1fa: this really sucks
[03:36:00] kormoc: a1fa, do you have that lib on your box?
[03:37:00] a1fa: what lib
[03:37:00] a1fa: libmyth-0.19.so.0.19.0?
[03:37:00] kormoc: Xxf86vm
[03:37:00] Guyfromhe|laptop: now i remember why i didn't use any of the other OSDs
[03:37:00] Guyfromhe|laptop: their all ugly
[03:37:00] a1fa: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXxf86vm.so.1
[03:38:00] a1fa: yes
[03:38:00] piku: oh yeah right here.. it's documented in forums:
[03:38:00] piku: > Ah, that. That wasn't the problem I was thinking of. A few other users
[03:38:00] piku: > and I are experiencing completely unexpected loss of database
[03:38:00] piku: > connectivity when running current SVN and mysql5. I manually
[03:38:00] piku: > implemented that fix with -fixes and it had the same problem.
[03:38:00] piku: oops.. flood :-/
[03:38:00] kormoc: welp, there's some issue then a1fa, cause it's in your lib path but not getting picked up
[03:39:00] a1fa: god damn it
[03:39:00] a1fa: just my luck
[03:39:00] a1fa: everything goes wrong
[03:39:00] a1fa: first mysql5
[03:39:00] a1fa: now this
[03:39:00] piku: so anyway.. I know at least 3 people experieced same mysql 5 issue
[03:39:00] a1fa: tomorrow its gonna be atomic bomb
[03:39:00] piku: with lost connection after 8 hours or so
[03:39:00] kormoc: piku, only with persistant connections?
[03:39:00] piku: kormoc, can you define persistent/nonpersistent in myth?
[03:40:00] piku: kormoc, it would be whatever is default for me
[03:40:00] kormoc: no, persistent connections are 'always on', which is what myth uses iirc
[03:40:00] piku: well I assume it's a persistent connection since it times out after a long long time
[03:41:00] a1fa: how can i tell what version of library it is?
[03:41:00] kormoc: basically, many threads can access the same connection
[03:41:00] piku: I think the "kick database" functionality is busted in 5
[03:41:00] kormoc: a1fa, look for the .so.version.numbers.here file
[03:41:00] kormoc: a1fa, for example, /usr/lib/libXxf86vm.so.1.0.0
[03:42:00] piku: not having any luck with 0.18.2 pre7882 rpm..
[03:42:00] piku: but I found 0.18.2–0.7468
[03:42:00] a1fa: fixed
[03:42:00] a1fa: i removed 1.0.0
[03:42:00] a1fa: and it worked fine
[03:42:00] kormoc: a1fa, ldconfig should be doing all that for you...
[03:43:00] kormoc: a1fa, you have been running it after you compile libs, right?
[03:43:00] a1fa: apt-get
[03:43:00] kormoc: you've been running ldconfig after you apt-get libs, right?
[03:44:00] piku: hrmm. I found 0.18.2–20051106... kormoc you think that's compatible enough with pre7882?
[03:44:00] kormoc: donno, depends on the changes in the code
[03:44:00] piku: that means no ;)
[03:44:00] a1fa: kormoc: nope
[03:44:00] a1fa: kormoc: isnt apt-get doing that for me?
[03:44:00] piku: I'm not up for uncertainty here because my girlfriend really loves tv ;)
[03:45:00] kormoc: a1fa, it would seem not, given it wasn't linked up correctly
[03:45:00] a1fa: same here
[03:45:00] a1fa: :
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[03:45:00] piku: and keeping the girlfriend happy inevitably keeps me happy ;)
[03:45:00] a1fa: my girlfriend will kick my ass if the tv is not working tomorrow
[03:45:00] a1fa: piku: use the newest svn version
[03:45:00] a1fa: it will get you laid
[03:45:00] a1fa: 100%
[03:45:00] piku: svn the client and server?
[03:45:00] piku: pssh
[03:45:00] kormoc: laid flat from a fist to the face or a knee to the groin...
[03:45:00] a1fa: both
[03:45:00] a1fa: kormoc: 'class QXmlDeclHandler' has virtual functions but non-virtual destructor
[03:45:00] a1fa: are these normal errors
[03:46:00] kormoc: not preticullarly
[03:46:00] a1fa: suick
[03:46:00] kormoc: but that sounds more like a warning anyway
[03:46:00] a1fa: compiling mythtv takes two days
[03:47:00] piku: I blew up my mythtv server motherboard, so I got new hardware
[03:47:00] piku: took about 3 minutes now ;)
[03:47:00] a1fa: who wants to run distcc for me?
[03:47:00] kormoc: latency would kill ya
[03:47:00] piku: lol.. I've never seen distcc used over low speed links
[03:47:00] piku: I wonder if it would perform that badly
[03:48:00] a1fa: i got OC12 :p
[03:48:00] a1fa: ya sure?
[03:48:00] kormoc: when it takes longer to send and receive the code then it does to compile it, it sure doesn't help
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[03:48:00] a1fa: oh, you guys cable modem :p
[03:48:00] a1fa: you cable modem people :P
[03:49:00] dasOp: just wait it out
[03:49:00] piku: alfa I'm sure that oc12 is all yours ;)
[03:49:00] a1fa: nope
[03:49:00] dasOp: takes around 20–25 mins on my k7–850
[03:49:00] a1fa: i got 1.3ghz and its taking 30 minutes :(
[03:49:00] kormoc: a1fa, yeah, which is why your rdns points to cable.conwaycorp.net...
[03:50:00] a1fa: kormoc: thats my home
[03:50:00] piku: I got an AMD sempron 2800+, socket 754 with a very sweet asus board..
[03:50:00] piku: took like 10 minutes max
[03:50:00] piku: I got the whole kit with ram for $200 flat
[03:50:00] a1fa: u lucky basard
[03:50:00] a1fa: pika-chu
[03:50:00] piku: nope.. piku.. as in the chemical brothers song
[03:51:00] a1fa: hehe :P
[03:51:00] piku: hrmmph.. I guess I should use gentoo to build that
[03:51:00] piku: and then copy the source over and build on my fedora box manually
[03:52:00] piku: best case scenario really
[03:52:00] a1fa: videoout_xv.cpp:36:38: error: X11/extensions/xf86vmode.h: No such file or directory
[03:52:00] a1fa: more errors
[03:52:00] piku: I just rebooted my myth server and it decided to not come back
[03:52:00] a1fa: wtf
[03:52:00] kormoc: a1fa, sounds like you don't have the xorg dev headers installed
[03:53:00] a1fa: what package is that
[03:53:00] a1fa: libglu1-xorg-dev?
[03:53:00] kormoc: likely xorg-dev or similar
[03:54:00] a1fa: nothing
[03:55:00] a1fa: anybody?
[03:56:00] kormoc: you'll need to find the right package
[03:56:00] a1fa: apt-file search *xf86vmode*
[03:56:00] a1fa: this sucks grandma's balls
[03:57:00] a1fa: OMFG
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[03:57:00] a1fa: i cant believe this shit
[03:57:00] a1fa: no fucking way
[03:57:00] a1fa: OMFG
[03:57:00] ** kormoc sighs **
[03:58:00] kormoc: you really shouldn't come within 500 feet of a computer.
[03:58:00] a1fa: no fucking way
[03:58:00] a1fa: make it a mile
[03:58:00] a1fa: i will fucking stomp the shit out of it
[03:58:00] kormoc: you got a deal, so better get a walkin...
[03:59:00] a1fa: hm
[03:59:00] a1fa: not even apt-file can find that file
[04:00:00] jasta: hi kormoc
[04:00:00] kormoc: hihi
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[04:00:00] stf28: Hello... I'm having some problem with the ir-blaster caming with the pvr-150... some one can help me!
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[04:01:00] GreyFoxx: /sc
[04:01:00] a1fa: finally
[04:01:00] a1fa: some gay ass lib
[04:01:00] kormoc: jasta, so I have my pool cue, all ready to go! :)
[04:01:00] jasta: hehe, any time :)
[04:01:00] jasta: im free this weekend
[04:01:00] a1fa: 1h after..
[04:02:00] kormoc: jasta, as am I
[04:02:00] stf28: Hello... I'm having some problem with the ir-blaster caming with the pvr-150... some one can help me!
[04:03:00] a1fa: source is pain in the nutts
[04:03:00] a1fa: someone needs to write a guide how to :P
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[04:04:00] a1fa: and somebody needs to maintain packages for debian
[04:04:00] a1fa: bcos there is nobody now
[04:04:00] a1fa: i am the only lost sheep talking in here
[04:04:00] a1fa: guys, cmon support me on one thing
[04:05:00] kormoc: a1fa, what's your issue now?
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[04:06:00] a1fa: no issue
[04:06:00] a1fa: i am bitching
[04:06:00] a1fa: i needz a shoulder to cry on
[04:06:00] kormoc: that's what the girlfriend is for
[04:06:00] a1fa: she is 70miles away
[04:07:00] a1fa: i dont get to see her until tomorrow after work
[04:07:00] a1fa: i wonder how microsoft managed to pull that xp media edition w/ pvr
[04:08:00] a1fa: w/o bugs and so stable
[04:08:00] kormoc: lots of paid programmers and lots of time
[04:08:00] kormoc: and lots of money helps a lot of course
[04:09:00] a1fa: i wonder how long it took them to develop it
[04:09:00] a1fa: kormoc
[04:09:00] a1fa: : + prebuilt libraries by other ms developers
[04:09:00] a1fa: 50+ minutes later -> make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/mythtv/programs'
[04:10:00] ** kormoc shrugs **
[04:12:00] kormoc: so you have a slow box
[04:12:00] a1fa: 1.3Ghz aint that slow
[04:12:00] kormoc: compaired to the newest and best, it is
[04:13:00] a1fa: sucks
[04:13:00] a1fa: i need to run wmvare on my athlon64
[04:13:00] a1fa: and compile it under 5min
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[04:16:00] a1fa: Chutt: what do you do for living
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[04:18:00] jhihn: hi all. anyone know how I can get thr dvd to automount and unmount?
[04:18:00] jhihn: i just added a dvd drive...
[04:18:00] kormoc: jhihn, to play a dvd, you don't mount it
[04:19:00] jhihn: i want to rip it
[04:19:00] jhihn: i can manually mount it and read it fine
[04:20:00] jhihn: but that involves dropping to a text window
[04:20:00] kormoc: so then install a automount package
[04:20:00] jhihn: its already installed, i think, just not set upfor /dev/dvd
[04:20:00] kormoc: so set it up, google can find some nice howtos
[04:20:00] jhihn: my backend server could mount it but then I moved it to the front end
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[04:22:00] JeffATL: running mythsetup, following along with the gentoo mythtv instructions, and unclear on what to select for XMLTV listings grabber
[04:22:00] kormoc: jhihn, and?
[04:22:00] jhihn: i was hoping I could just copy the settings from one to the other
[04:22:00] kormoc: JeffATL, set it to datadirect
[04:22:00] JeffATL: kormoc: thx
[04:22:00] kormoc: jhihn, so try
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[04:23:00] jhihn: well let me ask this, is it possible to transcode on a front end?
[04:23:00] CyberKnet: xris?
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[04:28:00] a1fa: jhihn: manually?
[04:30:00] JeffATL: is mythfilldatabase supposed to kind of download files in a loop?
[04:30:00] kormoc: JeffATL, 1 for each day of data
[04:31:00] a1fa: http://www.magicitx.com/mythtv/mythweb/remote.html
[04:31:00] a1fa: mythfilldatabase: error while loading shared libraries: libmythtv-0.19.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:31:00] a1fa: sweet
[04:32:00] JeffATL: kormoc: ok
[04:32:00] a1fa: i wasted 2hours
[04:32:00] kormoc: did you run ldconfig
[04:32:00] a1fa: yuppie
[04:32:00] a1fa: yeah i did
[04:32:00] a1fa: i didnt set the path
[04:32:00] a1fa: i guess
[04:32:00] JeffATL: kormoc: that sure looks like it needs to be bing done via rsync
[04:32:00] JeffATL: being done
[04:33:00] kormoc: JeffATL, after the first time, it only gets the latest day of data
[04:33:00] JeffATL: kormoc: or, will it decline to download files it's already gotten?
[04:33:00] JeffATL: ok
[04:34:00] a1fa: kormoc: fixed
[04:34:00] a1fa: kormoc: how do i tell mythtv to use /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt
[04:34:00] kormoc: it should look there by default
[04:35:00] a1fa: its using /root
[04:35:00] a1fa: magically it worked this time
[04:35:00] a1fa: ;P
[04:36:00] kormoc: it should check ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt and then /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt
[04:40:00] a1fa: cool
[04:40:00] ** a1fa rm -f .mythtv **
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[04:41:00] jhihn: quick question.. how does one set nfs to start onboot? I am not familar with debian
[04:43:00] jhihn: found it
[04:43:00] a1fa: great
[04:43:00] a1fa: fucking debian
[04:43:00] a1fa: X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[04:44:00] a1fa: and its groups
[04:45:00] a1fa: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common
[04:53:00] JeffATL: ok, my mythbackend acts like it's starting but there doesn't appear to be a process actually running
[04:54:00] JeffATL: frontend can't connect to it
[04:54:00] kormoc: ps ax | grep mythbackend doesn't show it?
[04:55:00] JeffATL: i've verified that the mythtv acct in mysql has the right password
[04:55:00] JeffATL: kormoc: correct
[04:55:00] kormoc: check the backend log
[04:55:00] JeffATL: oh
[04:56:00] JeffATL: setup didn't create directories that didn't exist but were specified for the store
[04:56:00] a1fa: kormoc
[04:56:00] a1fa: can i see your log file?
[04:56:00] kormoc: log file for?
[04:57:00] a1fa: not log file, but cron.d for mythfilldatabase please
[04:57:00] kormoc: I don't run mythfilldatabase from cron
[04:59:00] a1fa: u run it manually?
[04:59:00] kormoc: no, via myth itself
[04:59:00] a1fa: oh, so myth will run it?
[04:59:00] kormoc: yes
[04:59:00] a1fa: i guess thats the new version
[05:01:00] JeffATL: ok to chown the store folder to mythtv:users?
[05:01:00] kormoc: if that is who mythbackend runs as, then sure
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[05:04:00] JeffATL: kormoc: ok, now the backend still doesn't run, and the log is blank!
[05:04:00] kormoc: JeffATL, just run it from a term window and look what it outputs
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[05:05:00] JeffATL: kormoc: ok, looks like a mysql access failure
[05:05:00] kormoc: there you go then
[05:06:00] JeffATL: i can go "mysql -u mythtv -p", put in the password that the frontend has, and get a mysql prompt...
[05:07:00] JeffATL: and then use mythconverg; works ok
[05:07:00] kormoc: select * From recorded;
[05:07:00] kormoc: see if that works
[05:07:00] JeffATL: Empty set (0.00 sec)
[05:07:00] kormoc: odd
[05:09:00] JeffATL: kormoc: see http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/U8cFok20.html – running there as root
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[05:10:00] kormoc: try
[05:10:00] kormoc: mysql -u root -p -h localhost mythconverg
[05:10:00] kormoc: and see if you can connect that way
[05:11:00] JeffATL: yes
[05:11:00] CyberKnet: hey rob
[05:11:00] kormoc: mysql -u mythtv -p -h localhost?
[05:11:00] kormoc: CyberKnet, hihi
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[05:12:00] JeffATL: kormoc: yes
[05:12:00] kormoc: JeffATL, you sure it's right in the mysql.txt file?
[05:12:00] JeffATL: i don't seem to have one
[05:12:00] CyberKnet: <BrokenRecord Type="freepay" Action="xbox360" Method="irc"/>
[05:13:00] a1fa: lirc is crhasing the box
[05:13:00] a1fa: on boot
[05:13:00] kormoc: CyberKnet, oh crap!
[05:13:00] kormoc: let me look for the link... :P
[05:13:00] CyberKnet: kormoc: ;)
[05:13:00] kormoc: JeffATL, you need one iirc
[05:14:00] JeffATL: kormoc: i found a mention in the gentoo mythtv doc, hang on
[05:14:00] a1fa: make[2]: warning: Clock skew detected. Your build may be incomplete.
[05:14:00] CyberKnet: mmmm... clock skew
[05:14:00] a1fa: wtf is that
[05:15:00] kormoc: a1fa, your clock is wrong
[05:15:00] a1fa: :(
[05:15:00] JeffATL: kormoc: that's supposed to be /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt?
[05:15:00] kormoc: yup
[05:16:00] JeffATL: kormoc: i did this: echo "DBHostName=localhost" >> /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt
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[05:17:00] kormoc: you also need DBUserName, DBPassword, DBName
[05:17:00] JeffATL: kormoc: where is this documented??
[05:17:00] kormoc: mythtv.org?
[05:18:00] Cardoe: kormoc: my mythtv box is dead right now.
[05:18:00] kormoc: Cardoe, ooh?
[05:18:00] Cardoe: kormoc: so I'll have a 0.19 preview ready when it's back
[05:18:00] Cardoe: kormoc: well it's my ppc box
[05:18:00] Cardoe: I returned the nvidia card
[05:18:00] Cardoe: and ordered an ATI card
[05:19:00] ** kormoc blinks **
[05:19:00] Cardoe: wha?
[05:20:00] kormoc: ati cards and linux tend to suck
[05:20:00] Cardoe: not with ppc
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[05:20:00] Cardoe: nvidia+ppc = the suck
[05:20:00] JeffATL: kormoc: are you sure that /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt doesn't just belong on slave-only systems?
[05:20:00] Cardoe: JeffATL: he's sure
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[05:21:00] kormoc: JeffATL, the other place it would be would be /home/mythtv/.mythtv/mysql.txt
[05:21:00] CyberKnet: find / -iname mysql.txt -print
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[05:22:00] kormoc: CyberKnet, what's the best offer?
[05:22:00] kormoc: i.e. the easiest to deal with?
[05:22:00] CyberKnet: kormoc: Hmmmm
[05:22:00] Cardoe: kormoc: are you guys doing the "get your free xbox360" thing?
[05:22:00] djs_2_6: Hey guys. DOes A leadtek winfast tv2000xp tv tuner card work with linux?
[05:22:00] CyberKnet: Cardoe: I am, kormoc is doing me a favor
[05:22:00] kormoc: Cardoe, yeah, I'm signing up for CyberKnet
[05:22:00] JeffATL: kormoc: there is one there
[05:23:00] Cardoe: how sweet
[05:23:00] Cardoe: ;)
[05:23:00] CyberKnet: Cardoe: If you're in the USA and you want to too, I'd be glad to give you a sign up URL =)
[05:23:00] JeffATL: kormoc: and it starts with DBHostName=127.0.0.1
[05:23:00] CyberKnet: I already got an iPod from them.
[05:23:00] kormoc: JeffATL, might want to change that to localhost
[05:23:00] kormoc: JeffATL, or try mysql -u mythtv -p -h 127.0.0.1
[05:24:00] djs_2_6: Hey guys, anyone know that card?
[05:24:00] kormoc: I know that card, we played tennis last week.
[05:25:00] JeffATL: kormoc: that does NOT work – changing
[05:25:00] djs_2_6: ha ha
[05:25:00] CyberKnet: kormoc: RealRhapsody is easy... but it's $9.95, so you'd only be making a nickel
[05:25:00] kormoc: CyberKnet, I'm tempted to do the complete home offer
[05:25:00] JeffATL: kormoc: and mythtv finally runs
[05:25:00] JeffATL: the backend at least
[05:25:00] CyberKnet: kormoc: that is tempting... I've not heard anything about that one.
[05:26:00] kormoc: that and I don't think there's any lowe's for 500 miles or so :P
[05:26:00] CyberKnet: We have two Lowe's here in tulsa
[05:26:00] CyberKnet: heh
[05:26:00] CyberKnet: You could try Connections Entertainment
[05:27:00] kormoc: yeah... not sure I like the idea of signing up for that one
[05:27:00] CyberKnet: there's a WalMart everywhere
[05:27:00] defaultro: CyberKnet, familiar with fusion hdtv card?
[05:27:00] kormoc: it's a dating service, right?
[05:28:00] xris: kormoc needs a date
[05:28:00] xris: :)
[05:28:00] kormoc: hehe
[05:28:00] CyberKnet: kormoc: Oh... I dunno. I never look at what I'm signing up for... just what it costs, and how long I have to stay signed up
[05:28:00] defaultro: hi xris, long time no see :)
[05:28:00] xris: heya
[05:28:00] kormoc: xris, true, but not quite sure that's the sort of dating I'd be up for :P
[05:28:00] CyberKnet: xris: the MythWeb Weather icons theming doesn't seem to be working in 0.18.1
[05:28:00] defaultro: xris, which should i buy, gold or lite fusion hdtv card?
[05:28:00] CyberKnet: xris: haven't checked in CVS
[05:28:00] xris: CyberKnet: cvs is old
[05:28:00] xris: svn is better.  ;)
[05:28:00] djs_2_6: So, does ANYONE have a recommendation for a half decent tv tuner card that doesn't cost an arm and a leg?
[05:28:00] kormoc: ooh, there are lowes around
[05:28:00] CyberKnet: s/cvs/svn/
[05:28:00] xris: defaultro: I have no clue
[05:29:00] defaultro: ok
[05:29:00] kormoc: like, 10 min away
[05:29:00] CyberKnet: kormoc: sounds like a slam dunk
[05:29:00] xris: djs_2_6: what kind of card?
[05:29:00] defaultro: why are you guys talking about Lowes?
[05:29:00] ** kormoc starts reading the fine print **
[05:29:00] djs_2_6: xris – tv tuner card
[05:29:00] xris: kormoc: and home depot
[05:29:00] a1fa: 2006-01–05 23:27:24.527 Could not create //.mythtv
[05:29:00] a1fa: 2006-01–05 23:27:24.555 Failed to init MythContext, exiting.
[05:29:00] xris: djs_2_6: what kind? mpeg? divx? dvb? atsc? software encoder?
[05:29:00] xris: a1fa: missing user homedir environment variable
[05:30:00] Cromz: CyberKnet, got a coits near you? :P
[05:30:00] djs_2_6: xris – no idea. i live in us, just looking for tv tuner card with composite connections...
[05:30:00] xris: djs_2_6: pvr-150
[05:30:00] CyberKnet: Cromz: nope... just coitus
[05:30:00] a1fa: xris: where do i set that
[05:30:00] xris: $60 or so at buy.com for the "media center" version
[05:30:00] xris: a1fa: is that when starting the backend?
[05:30:00] a1fa: yup
[05:30:00] Cromz: CyberKnet, they got them in okc everywhere.. I miss that being up here in the cold north
[05:31:00] Cromz: mmm rootbeer..
[05:31:00] CyberKnet: blech
[05:31:00] CyberKnet: I hate rootbeer
[05:31:00] kormoc: Mmm... Birchbeer...
[05:31:00] defaultro: do you guys recommend searching first at fatwallet.com before buying?
[05:31:00] kormoc: defaultro, why not? what can it hurt?
[05:31:00] Cromz: they don't even have sonic here..
[05:31:00] Cromz: blech!
[05:31:00] djs_2_6: xris – what is the difference for media center edition?
[05:31:00] CyberKnet: Cromz: wow. I would miss sonic.
[05:32:00] Cromz: that I do.. 'yes I wanna super sonic #2'
[05:32:00] Cromz: lol
[05:32:00] CyberKnet: Cromz: I work for QuikTrip
[05:32:00] xris: djs_2_6: RCA audio jacks on the back instead of 3mm, and doesn't come with a remote.
[05:32:00] CyberKnet: super sonic #2 sonic size with vanilla coke & tots
[05:32:00] djs_2_6: xris – nothing cheaper? my last video card with tv tuner integrated was less...
[05:32:00] a1fa: how do i force it to use a dir?
[05:32:00] a1fa: and what home dir should it use
[05:32:00] xris: defaultro: techbargains, hotdealsclub, fatwallet, pricegrabber
[05:32:00] dtm: CyberKnet: i live a block away from Sonic!
[05:32:00] a1fa: i am guessing it should use /home/mythtv
[05:32:00] a1fa: right?
[05:32:00] xris: djs_2_6: that's the best card for the money
[05:32:00] Cromz: CyberKnet, I was born and raised okc.. moved to minnapolis 10 years ago.. and I still miss those..
[05:32:00] a1fa: i am guessing it should use /home/mythtv/.mythtv
[05:33:00] xris: anything less is a software encoder card and just not very good
[05:33:00] CyberKnet: Cromz: aaah. heh
[05:33:00] CyberKnet: dtm: sonic is in a lot of states these days.
[05:33:00] xris: a1fa: backend should imho run as root...
[05:33:00] JeffATL: ok i've got a vcr playing into my tuner input and i'm in "watch tv" mode on the front end – why does hitting C on the keyboard only give me "Composite 0"
[05:33:00] xris: most distros come with sysV init scripts to run at startup
[05:33:00] a1fa: yeah
[05:33:00] kormoc: CyberKnet, great... neather of the two offers I was interested in use secure forms for the credit card info
[05:33:00] Cromz: sonic isn't in minnesota. :(
[05:33:00] CyberKnet: kormoc: wow.
[05:34:00] CyberKnet: kormoc: that's ... unbelievable.
[05:34:00] kormoc: yeah...
[05:34:00] xris: a1fa: but for your issue, you need to run mythtv as a user that has a real home directory.
[05:34:00] Cromz: but we do have whitecastles. lol
[05:34:00] xris: or it just sees it as / and tries to create /.mythtv
[05:35:00] JeffATL: it just says "1: Composite 0" on the sscreen
[05:35:00] CyberKnet: kormoc: was one of those the lowes one?
[05:35:00] kormoc: the lowes and the walmart one is both none secure
[05:35:00] CyberKnet: kormoc: It uses a secure form.
[05:35:00] CyberKnet: it uses frames
[05:35:00] CyberKnet: the form frame is secure
[05:35:00] xris: JeffATL: did you define the input in mythtv-setup?
[05:36:00] kormoc: hrm
[05:36:00] ** kormoc peers **
[05:36:00] CyberKnet: kormoc: In firefox, right mouse click, This Frame, Frame Info
[05:36:00] CyberKnet: the url should start with https
[05:37:00] kormoc: so it does
[05:37:00] CyberKnet: ;)
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[05:37:00] kormoc: odd that opera doesn't see that as valid
[05:37:00] CyberKnet: makes it a bit hard to tell that it is secure though
[05:37:00] CyberKnet: ouch. it's getting late :|
[05:38:00] defaultro: xris, ah, gotcha
[05:38:00] xris: defaultro: fatwallet is kind of messy to wade through
[05:39:00] CyberKnet: slickdeals is good
[05:39:00] CyberKnet: but its hit & miss as to whether a deal you are interested in shows up, and they tend to expire quickly
[05:40:00] CyberKnet: I gotta get to bed.
[05:40:00] CyberKnet: gotta be up in 7 hours.
[05:40:00] kormoc: CyberKnet, hotdealclub.com is another good one that xris showed me
[05:40:00] CyberKnet: oooh.
[05:40:00] CyberKnet: instant bookmark
[05:40:00] kormoc: CyberKnet, welp, night night, I signed up.
[05:40:00] kormoc: CyberKnet, excuse me, hotdealsclub.com
[05:40:00] CyberKnet: thanks rob!
[05:41:00] CyberKnet: night folks
[05:42:00] kormoc: night night!
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[05:42:00] defaultro: ok
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[05:46:00] JeffATL: xris: let me check again
[05:47:00] JeffATL: xris: i thought i'd picked tuner0 (there's also a tuner1, inexplicably – this is a single PVR-150)
[05:48:00] JeffATL: is "MPEG-2 Encoder Card" correct for PVR-150?
[05:49:00] kormoc: yes
[05:51:00] JeffATL: and /dev/v4l/video0? (/dev/v4l has vbi0 video0 video24 video32)
[05:51:00] kormoc: video0 is standard, aye
[05:52:00] BlackJudas: What would be the best "type" of install... As far as wm goes, and auto-running mythfrontend on boot.... gdm?
[05:53:00] kormoc: I use xfce4
[05:53:00] ** kormoc shrugs **
[05:54:00] GreyFoxx: personally I just avoid any login manager and launch X as my mythtv user right from an init script. The window manager auto launches mythfrontend
[05:55:00] BlackJudas: GreyFoxx, which wm?
[05:55:00] GreyFoxx: I use IceWM for my mythboxes
[05:55:00] JeffATL: same thing happened – all that comes up in Watch TV is COmposite 0 even though the default is TUner0. I just plugged an rca cable between the vcr and the pvr-150 composite and i'm getting picture
[05:55:00] BlackJudas: GreyFoxx, hmm, and your initscript just runs su mythuser -c startx ??
[05:56:00] BlackJudas: I've never used icewm, simple and light? (xfce may be somewhat overkill), I've considered using ratpoison... :)
[05:56:00] GreyFoxx: pretty much. rc.local calls rc.pvr which loads various modules, starts myth backend, and starts X
[05:56:00] JeffATL: picture is too jerky to use though
[05:57:00] GreyFoxx: Real small and easy to setup
[05:57:00] BlackJudas: though I'm not sure what mythtv really requires from a wm, all ratpoison provides is a terminal...
[05:57:00] GreyFoxx: This is what I have at the end of my rc.pvr to launch x
[05:57:00] GreyFoxx: http://pastebin.ca/35956
[05:57:00] BlackJudas: (even then... not so much)
[05:58:00] JeffATL: is it normal to have two or three mythfrontend processes running in Watch TV mode?
[05:58:00] GreyFoxx: JeffATL: Those are just threads, yes it's not unusual :)
[05:58:00] BlackJudas: Nice, thanks for sharing that.
[05:59:00] JeffATL: i thought i could get away with a 1GHz t-bird provided i was encoded on both ends
[05:59:00] GreyFoxx: I pass various controls at my lilo prompt if I want to either disable the whole thing (nopvr) or just no X (noautologin) etc
[06:00:00] JeffATL: is there a way i can verify that i'm encoded at both ends?
[06:01:00] kormoc: encoded at both ends?
[06:01:00] JeffATL: pvr-150 in, gefore mx4000 out
[06:01:00] JeffATL: geforce
[06:01:00] kormoc: top says your cpu is being used a lot?
[06:01:00] JeffATL: ~96%
[06:02:00] JeffATL: and i'm getting ~1/5s pauses about every 4/5s
[06:02:00] kormoc: glxinfo | grep -i direct
[06:02:00] GreyFoxx: What version of myth and what version of the nvidia drivers ?
[06:02:00] kormoc: that shows direct rendering: yes?
[06:02:00] kormoc: GreyFoxx, ooh, right, 8xxx drivers suck
[06:03:00] JeffATL: # glxinfo
[06:03:00] JeffATL: Error: unable to open display (null)
[06:04:00] JeffATL: is that a console command?
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[06:04:00] Camisa: does xawtv work with the hauppauge 500mce?
[06:05:00] JeffATL: [ebuild R ] media-tv/mythtv-0.18.1-r1
[06:05:00] kormoc: JeffATL, it's a command to be run in a console in x
[06:05:00] GreyFoxx: Camisa: Doubtful, but the latest development snapshots of it might
[06:05:00] kormoc: JeffATL, but if you are using a nvidia-glx nvidid-kernel of version > 7676, you'll have issues
[06:05:00] Camisa: GreyFoxx: latest development shots of xawtv? or the latest development shots of ivtv?
[06:05:00] kormoc: JeffATL, I would recommend masking > 7999 for nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx
[06:06:00] JeffATL: kormoc: direct rendering: yes
[06:06:00] JeffATL: [ebuild R ] media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178
[06:07:00] kormoc: JeffATL, there is a bug with the nvidia driver 8176 and 8178 that cause what you are seeing
[06:07:00] JeffATL: [ebuild R ] media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.8178
[06:07:00] JeffATL: ok, i'll back it down like you said
[06:07:00] Camisa: does TvTime work with the Hauppauge 500mce?
[06:07:00] JeffATL: thanks for your help
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[06:08:00] GreyFoxx: Camisa: latest snapshots of xawtv
[06:09:00] GreyFoxx: until recently they didn't support mpeg decoding, only raw streams from framegrabber cards
[06:09:00] GreyFoxx: they are adding support for dvb cards and mpeg decoding so it MIGHT work with ivtv cards, but I didn't see them specifically listed on their site
[06:10:00] Camisa: GreyFoxx: Thanks for looking.
[06:10:00] Camisa: :)
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[06:39:00] xris: ok, more mythweb updates
[06:41:00] kormoc: yay
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[07:03:00] AlienBaby: Is there a way to make the backend continue to record live tv after you exit the 'Watch TV' on the frontend?
[07:04:00] xris: AlienBaby: hit R ?
[07:05:00] EnterUserName: hi all
[07:05:00] EnterUserName: which file format do you use for ffmpeg with myttv
[07:05:00] EnterUserName: mythtv
[07:05:00] EnterUserName: i had it working with one show but now it doesnt work no more
[07:06:00] EnterUserName: im trying to change the format in mythtv to an avi
[07:08:00] xris: EnterUserName: huh?
[07:10:00] EnterUserName: I used ffmpeg on one of the videos that i recorded
[07:10:00] EnterUserName: to change to an raw avi file
[07:10:00] EnterUserName: adn it worked
[07:10:00] EnterUserName: but now its not working and i think it might be because i changed the format
[07:10:00] EnterUserName: however i dont what i did
[07:11:00] EnterUserName: What stream should i use to record
[07:11:00] EnterUserName: thisis the command i running
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[07:11:00] EnterUserName: its saying unknown format wheni run t
[07:11:00] xris: EnterUserName: nuvexport
[07:12:00] EnterUserName: ffmpeg -vcodec rawvideo -acodec pcm_s16le -r 15 -i 1002_20060105020400.mpg -s 220x176 -b 16000 -aspect 4:3 output.avi
[07:12:00] EnterUserName: Thwe thing is i didnt use nuvexport last time i did it
[07:12:00] xris: myth doesn't record in raw mode
[07:12:00] EnterUserName: i know
[07:12:00] EnterUserName: but ffmpeg can read it and change it to raw mode
[07:12:00] EnterUserName: i did the commadn above with out the -b
[07:12:00] xris: oh, you have an mpg file
[07:12:00] xris: then you don't need to convert to raw.. ffmpeg can read mpg just fine.
[07:12:00] EnterUserName: yup
[07:13:00] EnterUserName: its saying unknown format
[07:13:00] EnterUserName: for some reason
[07:13:00] EnterUserName: i even tried using the -f mpeg2video
[07:13:00] xris: much easier to just use nuvexport
[07:13:00] xris: then you get cutlists, no worries about corrupt frames from ivtv, etc.
[07:13:00] EnterUserName: ya i gue4ss but there is no to avi file there
[07:14:00] xris: huh?
[07:14:00] EnterUserName: i need to change it to an avi file
[07:14:00] EnterUserName: with the above command
[07:14:00] xris: divx and xvid are both put into avi containers
[07:14:00] EnterUserName: oh ok
[07:14:00] xris: avi is just a container format.. can put any kind of video inside it that you want.
[07:15:00] xris: but if you want xvid or divx, use --transcode. it's slower, but the quality is way better
[07:15:00] EnterUserName: Xris: i need it in the above format soi can watch it on my nano ipod
[07:15:00] EnterUserName: using ipodlinux
[07:15:00] EnterUserName: which is why im using that format
[07:15:00] xris: what format, though?
[07:16:00] xris: avi is a container. could put WMV9 data into it and no way could you play it in linux
[07:16:00] xris: could put raw video or anything else in there.
[07:16:00] EnterUserName: ok its raw video
[07:16:00] EnterUserName: thats in there
[07:16:00] xris: you couldn't hold that on a nano
[07:16:00] EnterUserName: lol i did for abotu 30 mins..
[07:16:00] xris: could put like a 10 minute show
[07:17:00] EnterUserName: hmm the one i had is about 100 mbs for 5–10 mins
[07:17:00] xris: not raw
[07:17:00] xris: nowhere near raw
[07:17:00] AlienBaby: I don't want to 'Record' Live TV.. I want the backend to continue to fill the ringbuf..
[07:17:00] EnterUserName: ffmpeg -vcodec rawvideo -acodec pcm_s16le -r 15 -i filempg -s 220x176 -aspect 4:3 output.avi
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[07:18:00] EnterUserName: this is what i did to get it to work ojnmy nano
[07:18:00] xris: AlienBaby: ringbuf is gone in the next version... so that's your only option
[07:18:00] EnterUserName: ffmpeg -vcodec rawvideo -acodec pcm_s16le -r 15 -i file.mpg -s 220x176 -aspect 4:3 output.avi
[07:18:00] EnterUserName: is that raw?
[07:18:00] xris: EnterUserName: yeah, guess so. forgot that you're resizing it. heh.
[07:18:00] kormoc: don't beleive so
[07:18:00] xris: but in your case, the parameters are out of order.
[07:18:00] kormoc: wouldn't the -r 15 mean it's encoding something?
[07:18:00] kormoc: or is that frame rate?
[07:19:00] EnterUserName: it worked with one of my files that i recorded with mythtv and now none of them work .. cant figure out what the diff was
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[07:19:00] xris: EnterUserName: pretty sure ffmpeg cares what order you put things in... so specifying vcodec before the input file tells it the format of the input file, not the desired output
[07:19:00] xris: EnterUserName: could be that ivtv can produce broken mpegs
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[07:20:00] EnterUserName: hmm
[07:20:00] AlienBaby: I want to duplicate the Tivo behavior my wife expects..
[07:20:00] EnterUserName: but it runs in mythtv
[07:20:00] EnterUserName: adn mplayer
[07:21:00] EnterUserName: ok i give up for now im going to bed
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[07:21:00] xris: AlienBaby: um, turn off tv instead of exiting myth?
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[07:24:00] KanRINiN: hey
[07:24:00] KanRINiN: anyone awake? I just installed XMLTV and the java web setup program isn't working
[07:24:00] KanRINiN: how else can I set i tup
[07:24:00] xris: huh?
[07:24:00] KanRINiN: the XMLTV tv guide
[07:24:00] xris: thought mythfilldatabase did that for you
[07:25:00] KanRINiN: well..er..this is the only chatroom I could find that used xmltv
[07:25:00] KanRINiN: I'm setting up a tv guide for it called Maxemum Tv-GUide for KDE
[07:26:00] xris: for the US, or international?
[07:27:00] KanRINiN: US
[07:27:00] xris: KanRINiN: then use zap2it
[07:27:00] xris: better to interface directly with their xml than to use the xmltv in the middle
[07:27:00] KanRINiN: k
[07:27:00] xris: labs.zap2it.com
[07:27:00] xris: aka datadirect
[07:27:00] xris: it's the best way to get tv guide data in north america
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[07:28:00] xris: man, what is it with people leaving mid-conversation?
[07:32:00] closer: he's lame anyway
[07:32:00] closer: "maxemum"
[07:32:00] closer: "kde" ;-)
[07:33:00] kormoc: I figured GUide would be a better hint :P
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[07:40:00] jasta: hmm, this albumart program keeps hanging while downloading the artwork.
[07:41:00] jasta: its timeout appears to be greater than 5 minutes too :)
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[08:01:00] UncleBill: hello friends
[08:02:00] UncleBill: I'm having a rotten time trying to do what should be a basic transcode. I want to take "perfect" rips that mythdvd made, and convert the ac3 audio to mp3. I can't figure how to do this with transcode or other tools. can anyone give me some pointers, or better yet, a transcode command line?
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[08:07:00] danieldk: Grayfox: Hi!
[08:07:00] qupada: UncleBill: for me, 'a52dec [infile] | lame -V2 – [outfile]' seems to be doing the job
[08:08:00] qupada: but you need the ac3 file separated from the video stream
[08:09:00] qupada: i don't know how to do it any other way
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[08:10:00] UncleBill: Thanks, qupada. how do I seperate them?
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[08:11:00] qupada: good question, let me try and find something
[08:13:00] UncleBill: if I do transcode -i <input file> -o <output file> -y mpeg2enc,lame, it seems to split it into two files, out.mpe and out.m1v
[08:13:00] UncleBill: is that along the right track?
[08:14:00] UncleBill: err out.pm3 and out.m1v
[08:14:00] UncleBill: heh
[08:14:00] UncleBill: mp3
[08:15:00] jgor: i have an ati rage 128 aiw, anyone know if it works with mythtv?
[08:15:00] UncleBill: qupada, where do I put the ac3 file in your command line above?
[08:15:00] qupada: infile is the ac3, outfile mp3
[08:15:00] UncleBill: oh, I see
[08:16:00] UncleBill: then I need to merge it back into the video after, yes?
[08:16:00] qupada: pretty much, yeah
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[08:16:00] UncleBill: unless I'm mistaken, I have a transcode line (above) that will convert the ac3 to mp3. but then I have two files. do you know how to merge them back together?
[08:17:00] qupada: not a clue
[08:18:00] UncleBill: argh
[08:18:00] qupada: all this stuff used to be so easy in windows... haven't had windows for 6 months now though
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[08:52:00] UncleBill: anyone know how to merge a .m1v (video) and a .mp3 (audio) into one file?
[08:55:00] dtm: UncleBill: you could do that with mencoder.
[08:55:00] dtm: UncleBill: er no. with mplex, sorry
[08:55:00] dtm: mencoder's mpeg muxer is busted
[08:56:00] dtm: assuming that they're supposed to be in end-to-end sync
[08:56:00] UncleBill: I've been playing with mplex, and can't figure it out. I have to give it an output stream max data-rate, and have no idea what to set that too.
[08:56:00] UncleBill: been googling for a while now
[08:56:00] dtm: UncleBill: do 'mplayer -identify' on your source media to find out
[08:56:00] UncleBill: they are
[08:56:00] dtm: or just run mplayer and watch it and it should tell you the data rate
[08:56:00] dtm: or just pick some
[08:57:00] UncleBill: I guess the problem is I don't know what a data rate is exactly. is it the fps?
[08:58:00] dtm: UncleBill: no it's kbps
[08:58:00] UncleBill: cool
[08:59:00] UncleBill: dtm, you are the man
[09:00:00] dtm: s w e e t
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[09:28:00] eiggirC: one of my TV stations lost all audio, in both live TV and recordings. Other channels are fine. Is this likely to be a driver problem? or a cabling/tuning/marginal signal problem?
[09:49:00] dtm: i am trying to get mplayer or xawtv to work with my new pvrusb2 (thanks mcisely). if i do "mplayer -tv driver=v4l -vo x11 /dev/video0", it says "File not found: '/dev/video0'" i have v4l2_common, v4l1_compat, videodev, and pvrusb2 (and its deps) loaded. maybe i'm missing a v4l dep.
[09:49:00] dtm: i have no video source for it currently. would that do it?
[09:49:00] dtm: i'd expect to get a window with a blue screen
[09:50:00] dtm: cat: /dev/video0: No such device
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[11:29:00] jusk1: mornin all
[11:29:00] laga: morning
[11:30:00] jusk1: back at work.. head buried in IDE analyser traces :-)
[11:31:00] stuarta: morning
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[11:33:00] Merlin83b3: Hi jusk1.
[11:34:00] jusk1: hiya Merlin83b3
[11:34:00] laga: jusk1: sounds like fun ;)
[11:35:00] jusk1: yeh.. got an ATA flash disk that works intermittently, and we need to be able to use it ASAP.. same old story
[11:35:00] laga: hehe
[11:35:00] jusk1: reading the t13.org data is not what I wanna be doing right now but hey
[11:36:00] laga: it pays the bills.
[11:36:00] jusk1: aye
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[11:36:00] laga: looking at the archives at gossamer, it looks like i've been using mythtv since at least march 2004. that's a long time.
[11:36:00] laga: maybe i need a new hobby or something ;)
[11:36:00] jusk1: only about 6 months more than me
[11:37:00] jusk1: mythtv's starting to get a bit boring, what with it just _working_ and all
[11:37:00] Merlin83b3: You could fix mine, jusk1 ;-)
[11:37:00] laga: mine doesn't work that great, actually. i only fiddle with it and i never took the time to set it up properly. for example the plugins and so on
[11:38:00] Merlin83b3: What distro do you use on the backend, jusk1?
[11:38:00] jusk1: I don't use gentoo, honest guv
[11:39:00] jusk1: chose the easy way out – same distro as a mate was using ;)
[11:40:00] Merlin83b3: Why do you think I asked ;-)
[11:41:00] jusk1: all went pretty smoothly actually.. 0.15 didn't work though, but when 0.16 ebuilds came out I tried em & everything just came together
[11:41:00] jusk1: or rather, I couldn't make 0.15 work
[11:41:00] Merlin83b3: I don't fancy trying to doa gentoo install on an epia, come to think of it.
[11:41:00] Merlin83b3: It might take a while...
[11:41:00] jusk1: Merlin83b3: you could if you could get away with using binary packages
[11:42:00] Merlin83b3: Gentoo has binary?
[11:42:00] jusk1: but seen as you need to use via xvmc.. ermmm
[11:42:00] jusk1: course it does
[11:42:00] jusk1: go from flat HDD to stage3 install with binary X etc in not much time at all
[11:42:00] Merlin83b3: Not too shabby.
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[11:44:00] jusk1: umbongo is growing on me though
[11:47:00] jusk1: I think I know what's up with this flash disk now... need to hard wire an IDE reset line to test my theory
[11:48:00] dopez: any dvb users running svn here? i seem to have some trouble that sometimes a program isnt recorded even though backend telsl me it is recording, it just doesnt create the mpg file
[11:49:00] laga: wtf do you call umbongo? ;)
[11:49:00] dopez: (i have some verbose log files if anyone is interesting, it seems it doesnt get the PAT signal?)
[11:49:00] stuarta: I reckon it's an unbuntu with a drum
[11:49:00] jusk1: dopez: try turning off EIT for a while
[11:49:00] stuarta: dopez: Cannot find program xxx in PAT?
[11:50:00] dopez: jusk1: i read something about EIT, i will give that a try indeed, should i recompile with --disable-eit ?
[11:50:00] dopez: stuarta: i take a look, one moment
[11:50:00] jusk1: umbongo, umbongo, they drink it in the congo...
[11:50:00] stuarta: I really must get that patch for the PAT problem rewritten...
[11:51:00] dopez: stuarta: seems it doesnt even mention PAT for the recording that is missing
[11:52:00] stuarta: diff problem then...
[11:52:00] jusk1: dopez: check your dtv_multiplex table.. if any entries are lacking service IDs or network IDs that might be the cause
[11:53:00] dopez: log is here, if interested, the programs at 10:10 and 11:05 worked, the one at 10:38 not. http://pastebin.ca/35973
[11:53:00] dopez: jusk1: could that cause randomly missed programs?
[11:53:00] dopez: (this case was 3 programs in a row on the same channel, middle one is missing)
[11:53:00] jusk1: fixing my dtv_multiplex table seems to have cleared up a few problems for me, including the "2you should have gotten a lock by now..."
[11:53:00] dopez: oh
[11:54:00] dopez: that i do have often with livetv
[11:54:00] dopez: i'll take a look at the dtv_multiplex table
[11:55:00] jusk1: still dunno how I ended up with 9 muxes though.. when there are actually only 6 broadcast :-/
[11:55:00] stuarta: the scanning went a bit funny for a while
[11:56:00] jusk1: when was the last commit to do with dvb stuff for 'head' ?
[11:57:00] dopez: the dtv_mutliplex table seems all okay, all values are filled in and correct (as far as i know)
[11:57:00] stuarta: pretty much anything by danielk
[11:58:00] jusk1: dopez: if there are duplicate entries (by frequency) make sure all parameters are the same
[11:59:00] jusk1: so much for that theory (ata flash).. anyway it's lunchytime
[11:59:00] dopez: jusk1: no dupes, had a few issues the first times i set it up, now i only added what i really needed
[11:59:00] dopez: i guess i could try without EIT for a while, see if that helps
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[12:14:00] laga: jusk1: do you know what happened to mythtvtalk?
[12:17:00] jono: anyone want to run a mythtv stand at lugradio live?
[12:17:00] jusk1: down again?
[12:17:00] jusk1: been having a lot of that lately
[12:18:00] laga: yeah, he said it was something about the hosting company having trouble with script kiddies
[12:18:00] jusk1: laga: I hadn't tried it since last night.. and it's unavailable again
[12:19:00] laga: jusk1: kind of sad, we got lots of traffic yesterday
[12:19:00] jusk1: jono: I thought I was in the frame for that, but never mind
[12:20:00] jono: jusk1, oh cool, I wasnt sure if you absolutely wanted to do it – last thing I heard from you was that you were considering it
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[12:21:00] jusk1: just let me know exactly what yuou have in mind.. .. anything too technical linux-wise I'll be outta my depth
[12:22:00] jono: jusk1, well its totally up to you – but its just running a stand on each day
[12:22:00] jono: the stand can be used to tell people about mythtv, maybe with some demo machines
[12:22:00] jusk1: do I have to be fire retardant?
[12:22:00] jono: huh?
[12:23:00] laga: jusk1: gee, i've even written an article on mythtv for some german linux mag and i have no clue about mythtv ;)
[12:23:00] jusk1: just trying to be funny – seen ridiculous rules & regs re: exhibitions & things
[12:23:00] jono: jusk1, heh, no not here
[12:23:00] jono: jusk1, nice loose conf is lugradio live
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[12:24:00] jono: jusk1, I recommend you and a bunch of other people club together to do it – sitting on a stand all day by yourself is not much fun
[12:24:00] jusk1: good idea
[12:24:00] stuarta: then you can hack when bored
[12:26:00] jusk1: not that I think a mythtv stand would be unpopular..
[12:26:00] laga: get coume to join you guys ;)
[12:26:00] jusk1: if he's still in town then...
[12:26:00] laga: yeah
[12:26:00] jono: jusk1, so would you like to confirm running it?
[12:26:00] laga: have you ever met him?
[12:27:00] jusk1: ok jono. I'll start planning soon
[12:27:00] jusk1: laga: never met him
[12:27:00] jono: jusk1, cool, I will add MythTV to the list of exhibitors
[12:27:00] jono: jusk1, feel free to use wiki.lugradio.org to plan it if you want
[12:28:00] laga: make sure to pringt a fscking large www.mythtvtalk.com banner ;)
[12:29:00] jusk1: need a fscking high-res logo then laga
[12:29:00] laga: jusk1: ask coume, maybe he's got some vector graphics stuff
[12:30:00] jusk1: wonder if I'll be able to borrow any displays from work...
[12:30:00] jono: jusk1, I reckon there will be loads of interest – everyone loves mythtv – so you should have a nice busy stand
[12:30:00] jusk1: got loads of LCDs we use at exhibitions
[12:31:00] jono: cool
[12:31:00] jono: would be good if you could have a demo box too
[12:31:00] jusk1: my spare box will do for the show...
[12:31:00] jono: :)
[12:31:00] jono: right off to lunch
[12:31:00] jusk1: it runs 0.18 fine
[12:31:00] ** jusk1 makes some notes **
[12:32:00] jusk1: anyone taking their SO?
[12:32:00] jusk1: Mythtv wives' user group ;)
[12:34:00] laga: SO?
[12:34:00] jusk1: significant other
[12:35:00] laga: oh, SWMBO
[12:35:00] jusk1: short for s.o.b.
[12:36:00] jusk1: she who must be obeyed? lol
[12:36:00] laga: yep ;)
[12:37:00] jusk1: ooo.. 1085 hits on my site in a month
[12:38:00] jusk1: need to be able to track how many downloads I've had.. that'd be good to know
[12:40:00] jusk1: blummin NTL.. if they only let you run CGI or php
[12:42:00] laga: jusk1: ask coume to give you webspace on mythtvtalk. nuv2disc is already hosted there
[12:44:00] jusk1: coume offerred, so I'll take him up on it
[12:44:00] laga: :)
[12:45:00] jusk1: I think he did anyway... memory of the other day is a bit blurry
[12:45:00] laga: yeah, that happens. just have another drink.
[12:49:00] jusk1: heheh
[12:49:00] jusk1: of ribena
[12:49:00] jusk1: left my hip flask at home
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[12:50:00] laga: ribena? black currants? huh?
[12:50:00] jusk1: I can't have alcohol at work – not even on a friday
[12:50:00] jusk1: I know – I'm in the wrong job
[12:51:00] laga: oh, ok
[12:51:00] laga: yeah
[12:51:00] laga: well, there's only a few hours left
[12:51:00] jusk1: at least when I DJ'd I could drink as much as I liked at work :D
[12:51:00] jusk1: almost made it bearable ;)
[12:52:00] laga: gee, that would be a bad idea for me. i love bad 80ies pop when i'm drunk. or speed metal. neither works well at regular parties ;)
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[12:52:00] jusk1: so? that's the DJ perogative ;-)
[12:52:00] laga: hehe
[12:53:00] jusk1: it was the other way round for me – people wanted bad 80s pop or happy hardcore, but all I would play was funky house/prog
[12:54:00] laga: maybe you'd needed to drink more
[12:55:00] jusk1: I doubt it
[12:55:00] jusk1: many a time I could hardly stand, but didn't miss a beat though
[12:55:00] jusk1: ahh.. now I see the logic.. could _hradly_ stand.. you're right – it wasn't enough
[12:56:00] laga: yep
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[12:59:00] jusk1: ROFL! "eBayer bids £1000 for photo of Plasma TV"
[13:00:00] laga: yeah, that happens a lot. people used to pay lots of money for packaging. ;)
[13:01:00] tanq: i would never by anything i want a warranty on from ebay
[13:01:00] tanq: s/by/buy
[13:01:00] jusk1: as Mr Burns would say...
[13:01:00] jusk1: "morons, pathetic MORONS"
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[13:07:00] fryfrog: anyone happen to try 2.6.15 kernel and 0.4.1 ivtv recently?
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[13:11:00] MiniMe: hmm.. MythTV can't connect to database.. what's wrong ?
[13:11:00] fryfrog: database not run!
[13:11:00] MiniMe: I have started mysql
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[13:12:00] fryfrog: i suggest, instead of making a vague statement and having someone narrow down the issue over the course of (possibly) hours...
[13:12:00] fryfrog: why not compose a detailed statement of what you have done, what you are doing and what is not working :)
[13:13:00] MiniMe: I have started mysql created a database from the sql file included with mythtv
[13:14:00] fryfrog: and....
[13:14:00] MiniMe: the error is: Unable to connect to database!
[13:14:00] fryfrog: you ran mythtv-setup?
[13:14:00] fryfrog: you have a "mysql.txt" file that points to the db?
[13:14:00] fryfrog: etc?
[13:14:00] fryfrog: the error is coming from...
[13:15:00] MiniMe: when I excute # mythtv
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[13:16:00] MiniMe: $ mythtv
[13:16:00] MiniMe: QSqlDatabase: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded
[13:16:00] MiniMe: QSqlDatabase: available drivers:
[13:18:00] laga: what distro?
[13:18:00] MiniMe: gentoo
[13:19:00] laga: make sure you have mysql in your use flags for qt
[13:21:00] MiniMe: you mean in the use variable ?
[13:22:00] laga: or whatchamacallit
[13:23:00] jusk1: in /etc/make.conf
[13:23:00] MiniMe: ok
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[13:23:00] laga: always nice to see that people can work their distros ;)
[13:23:00] MiniMe: ;)
[13:28:00] jusk1: make sure you've got qt & mysql in the USE section in /etc/make.conf
[13:28:00] MiniMe: must I recompile after that ?
[13:29:00] jusk1: then emerge qt again.. I can't remember what the command is to check for changes
[13:29:00] jusk1: yeh you'd have to recompile
[13:29:00] MiniMe: ok
[13:29:00] jusk1: so if you do that – see you tomorrow ;)
[13:29:00] MiniMe: well, I have the flag -qt ;)
[13:30:00] jusk1: -qt?
[13:30:00] jusk1: oh dear
[13:30:00] jusk1: make it say qt
[13:30:00] laga: how did you compile mythtv?
[13:30:00] MiniMe: ok
[13:30:00] jusk1: then re-emerge qt
[13:31:00] jusk1: laga: maybe the ebuild forces qt
[13:31:00] laga: probably
[13:31:00] laga: gentoo is weird
[13:32:00] jusk1: people should be bored with compiling by now.. gentoo should move to binaries
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[13:33:00] laga: hehe, right
[13:33:00] jusk1: it's an ok distro apart from all the compiling & their weird conventions (nice to see apache is normal now though)
[13:33:00] laga: hehe
[13:33:00] laga: i like my debian
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[13:36:00] jusk1: interesting.. fdisk drive I fails, yet the IDE analyser isn't seeing any bus activity
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[13:48:00] jusk1: this is one for the softies I reckon
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[14:09:00] Cromz: jusk1, I got it added to the main and the sub-menus ;) man that's slick.. I like that lol
[14:10:00] jusk1: Cromz: you like?
[14:10:00] Cromz: ya.. :) I havn't messed with the wide yet. just the standard looks awesome.
[14:10:00] jusk1: what's your new code do anyway? been doing a plugin for HA? might be interested in that
[14:11:00] Cromz: yeah. it's just a shell scrupt that send to the x10 via bottlerocket to turn on a light..
[14:12:00] jusk1: oh right
[14:12:00] Cromz: only got 1 x10 module to mess with. lol but I am ordering more.
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[14:13:00] Cromz: http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t= . . . revious&
[14:13:00] Cromz: it's basicly that. just I didn't mess with the heyu stuff..
[14:13:00] Cromz: I got the bottlerocket script compiled. and used the xml tips for mine. ;)
[14:13:00] jusk1: heh
[14:14:00] jusk1: coolio
[14:15:00] jusk1: wow man.. you go to 'watch videos. & it could dim yer lights!
[14:15:00] fryfrog: btw, it would have been "emerge -uDNav world"
[14:15:00] Cromz: ya
[14:15:00] jusk1: fryfrog: cheers, but I'll only forget it again
[14:16:00] fryfrog: hehe :)
[14:16:00] fryfrog: jusk1: not a gentoo user?
[14:16:00] jusk1: and I would never use 'world' anyway
[14:16:00] fryfrog: that'll catch *all* changed use flags
[14:16:00] jusk1: fryfrog: yes I use gentoo – my main backend uses that
[14:17:00] jusk1: I had a test system & emerged world with those parameters.. god did I live to regret that
[14:17:00] Cromz: that's the next step.. I want to see if I can add a field to the mythconverg to set movie moods.. for like genre of films..you know sci-fi horror dim the lights.. chick-flicks leave the on.. ;) *snicker*
[14:17:00] fryfrog: jusk1: really? thats odd... i guess you just don't bother keeping packages updated that you don't specifically care about?
[14:17:00] jusk1: that's it, fryfrog
[14:18:00] fryfrog: emerge -uDNav system is probably safer, if you care
[14:18:00] fryfrog: that'll at least keep your "system" packages up to date
[14:18:00] Cromz: and to build that lights menu with a setup so you can add crontabs for automating the lights when your not home. (random within an hour) to turn on the light and off so it looks liek someones home. ;)
[14:22:00] fryfrog: i think if i didn't keep world/system updated, i'd prolly go with debian or ubuntu
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[14:27:00] minimike: hello
[14:27:00] Cromz: jusk1, I did look at the wide alittle. I don't think I'm using the right font, I'll look at it more this weekend. on the tv menu some of the longer strings went to a 2nd line. and half of the words on the 2nd line are not showing up hehe
[14:28:00] minimike: someone here ? i have some problems to scann channels
[14:29:00] minimike: i am at stage mythtv-setup, with xmltv i can grab channels from the internet baut i can not scan channels with the hardware is that a bug
[14:30:00] minimike: ?
[14:30:00] stuarta: minimike: dvb-t dvb-s???
[14:31:00] minimike: i have got a AVermedia 771 DVB-T and a Terratec 400 Analog with saa7134 Chip OS is SuSE 10
[14:32:00] minimike: now i have configured the analog card for mythtv
[14:32:00] stuarta: which one is giving problems?
[14:34:00] minimike: both in the menu channel setting
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[14:34:00] minimike: i cant go inside channel scan
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[14:36:00] stuarta: you have to setup datasources and associate them with the cards first
[14:36:00] minimike: i checked out the latest svn 18.2 , now i have got the channels from xmltv but every channel has no frequence id
[14:37:00] minimike: yes i did
[14:37:00] minimike: xmltv and tv_grab_de works propper
[14:39:00] minimike: but i cant go inside to scan any frequency's
[14:39:00] minimike: no frequncys no channel
[14:39:00] minimike: no tv :(
[14:41:00] stuarta: hmmm
[14:43:00] stuarta: I'd go through each step again. 1–5, see how that goes.
[14:46:00] jusk1: Cromz: you need the Tahoma font I think..
[14:46:00] minimike: the button in manage channels ( step 5 ) is the button scan channels not avaible
[14:47:00] defaultro: any of you guys have fusion hdtv card?
[14:48:00] minimike: nope in Germany is HDTV dead
[14:48:00] stuarta: on either card. Don't know about analog, but it should work for dvb
[14:48:00] defaultro: im in US
[14:48:00] defaultro: i'm deciding which to buy, the gold or the lite
[14:50:00] hpeter: hi, i've installed mythtv 0.18.1–116.rhfc4.at which works, but when i connect from osx and try to watch livetv with the frontend 0.18.1 i get this error "Protocol version mismatch (frontend=19,backend=15)"
[14:52:00] jusk1: fryfrog: if my system works, I'm not gonna break it by upgrading stuff unneccesarily. My box isn't directly connected to the internet, so it's pretty safe
[14:52:00] fryfrog: ah, i see
[14:52:00] hpeter: sorry mixed up versions ;)
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[14:53:00] jusk1: hpeter: that's what the protocol error says ;)
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[14:54:00] jusk1: how many times do we see people who say "I was bored, so I upraded X, Y and/or Z.. now it doesn't work" ?;-)
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[14:55:00] minimike: do i get Version 18.1 with all fixes when i type svn co http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/branches/release-0-18-fixes/mythtv
[14:55:00] minimike: svn co http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/branches/release-0-18-fixes/mythtv
[14:55:00] minimike: ?
[14:55:00] minimike: hups sorry
[14:56:00] stuarta: yep.
[14:56:00] jusk1: minimike: whatever it says on the SVN site, which I think is that
[14:56:00] minimike: i used svn the first time for mythtv
[14:57:00] hpeter: is a frontend always using an input exclusively? or can't i connect with to frontends, even if would be the same active channel?
[14:57:00] minimike: ok lets build it again hoah 45 minutes work
[14:57:00] jusk1: hpeter: only for livetc
[14:57:00] jusk1: *livetc
[14:57:00] fryfrog: minimike: install "ccache" :)
[14:58:00] jusk1: hpeter: each frontend uses a tuner, but only when viewing livetv
[14:59:00] hpeter: jusk1: means if i'd like to watch two different programs at a time, i need a second tuner with probably the same channel settings?
[14:59:00] fryfrog: better stated might be, each live tv *session* or current recording uses a tuner
[14:59:00] jusk1: hpeter: yeh
[15:00:00] fryfrog: hpeter: unless what you want is to watch a pre-recorded show while someone *else* watches live tv (or the system records another show)
[15:00:00] fryfrog: hpeter: in theory, 10 people could watch 10 different shows with only 1 tuner card... as long as 9 of those shows were pre-recorded
[15:00:00] jusk1: only ever used livetv to check stuff works
[15:00:00] hpeter: jusk1: ah ok, thanx
[15:00:00] fryfrog: yeah, once you have about 5 hours of tv recorded... you'll never use livetv :)
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[15:01:00] fryfrog: commercials are for suckers :)
[15:01:00] minimike: fryfrog ccache is already installed the ox is slow because Energy is expensive in Europe
[15:01:00] jusk1: my wife still watches dope operas though.. tried convincing her that 2x timecompression would mnake them more enjoyable
[15:01:00] jusk1: but I'd rather not waste HDD space :D
[15:01:00] fryfrog: ahahha
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[15:04:00] minimike: sorry for what is opengl-vsync ?
[15:04:00] praet: jusk1: 2x dope operas.. lol
[15:04:00] minimike: i readed it by the options with ./configure
[15:05:00] minimike: if i buil mythtv with --enable-opengl-vsync it is possible mythtv uses 3D ?
[15:06:00] stuarta: minimike: no, it's only for timing
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[15:06:00] minimike: timing ?
[15:07:00] stuarta: vsync=video sync, -> when to display next frame
[15:07:00] minimike: better pictures?
[15:08:00] hpeter: has anyone heard if the mythbackend will run on intel-macs?
[15:08:00] minimike: or higher quallity
[15:08:00] stuarta: hpeter: it's being worked on
[15:08:00] minimike: hpeter MAC OSX is a mutaded FreeBSD
[15:09:00] stuarta: minimike: no, just timing, doesn't hurt to leave it out of your config
[15:09:00] hpeter: stuarta: nice :)
[15:09:00] minimike: so i dont need it
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[15:09:00] hpeter: minimike: i know ;)
[15:10:00] jusk1: mmmm intel macOS
[15:10:00] stuarta: hpeter: the guy who is working on it is busy unwrapping apples frameworks...
[15:10:00] stuarta: minimike: no
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[15:10:00] AlienBaby: way to make mythbackend continue to record live TV to ringbuf.. similiar to Tivo Behavior; when I exit Live TV to go look at Video List, setup, etc.?
[15:11:00] hpeter: stuarta: hehe cool
[15:11:00] jusk1: apple should _really_ release OS X for intel anyway. that should wake MS up
[15:11:00] stuarta: alienbaby: work in progress, look for liveTV rewrite threads on the dev list
[15:11:00] hpeter: stuarta: where's the place to find more info about this? – devlist?
[15:12:00] AlienBaby: cool
[15:12:00] stuarta: www.mythtv.org -> look for mailing lists.
[15:12:00] minimike: starta it is usefull to compile it with this option? My Board has got a Radeon Chipset with an Onboard Radeon 9000 IGP Onboardgraficcard
[15:13:00] hpeter: stuarta: woul'd be cool if "distribruted enconding" would work – compressor is such a nice tool ;)
[15:13:00] stuarta: minimike: I've never used it, doesn't hurt
[15:14:00] stuarta: hpeter: url for compressor?
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[15:16:00] minimike: so it is possible to compile the mythfronted for Windows?
[15:17:00] stuarta: no
[15:17:00] minimike: :/ it was a idea
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[15:18:00] GreyFoxx: It's more likely to happen later after myth is converted to use QT4, but that is not anytime soon
[15:19:00] minimike: the forum is dead, i have reded inside tha Mythtv and VDR goes together
[15:20:00] minimike: is the true ?
[15:20:00] GreyFoxx: Myth and VDR have nothing to do with one another
[15:20:00] hpeter: stuarta: it's part of finalcut pro and dvd studio pro – but it's commercial
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[15:21:00] hpeter: stuarta: got a guest, cya later
[15:21:00] minimike: i have read it in the german forum for Mythtv 19 :/ soory no flamewar
[15:21:00] jusk1: minimike: some lame-ass has done it but I wouldn't recommend it
[15:22:00] GreyFoxx: minimike: Noone is flaming you :)
[15:22:00] minimike: :)
[15:22:00] jusk1: actually two lame-asses have done it now
[15:23:00] jusk1: leave them to enjoy the heresy they've created
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[15:25:00] danieldk_: jusk1: so err jusk1= juski?
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[15:25:00] jusk1: yeh
[15:26:00] minimike: dont know what should i eat? Pizza or Spagetti?
[15:26:00] danieldk_: wth – i couldn't sign in with danieldk and had to add a "_" to my login
[15:26:00] jusk1: jusk1 = juski, only more l337
[15:26:00] danieldk_: :-)
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[15:27:00] ju5k1: better
[15:27:00] danieldk_: hell no
[15:27:00] danieldk_: :-D
[15:27:00] ju5k1: part of the 5100
[15:27:00] danieldk_: hahah
[15:29:00] ju5k1: well I'll be damned. that flash disk thingy works when I plug it into a standard IDE port with an adapter I made.. just not in the ata flash disk socket.. that's definitely a softie's responsibility
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[15:32:00] ju5k1: just realised these chocolates I won in the work xmas raffle have a Pb-free sticker on them. I should fsckin hope they're lead free!
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[15:34:00] Merlin83b2: Heh.
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[15:40:00] ian_: Greetings
[15:47:00] ju5k1: greetings
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[15:58:00] ian_: hello ju5k1
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[15:59:00] ian_: Does anybody here use Ubuntu?
[16:00:00] ju5k1: me
[16:00:00] ju5k1: funnily enough
[16:00:00] ian_: ooh brilliant
[16:00:00] ju5k1: don't tell me – you've tried installing mythtv using synaptic & it hasn;t worked
[16:02:00] ian_: Please don't hit me. I followed a guide here http://www.parker1.co.uk/mythtv.php and all was well
[16:02:00] ju5k1: (cos it didn't for me either).. ended up using the guide at abarbaccia.com
[16:02:00] ju5k1: lol nobody's gonna lash out
[16:02:00] ju5k1: lest you say those letters A T and I
[16:02:00] ju5k1: kidding btw
[16:02:00] ian_: Then I spent about 5 days trying to move from my CRT to TV-Out
[16:03:00] ju5k1: aha.. and now?
[16:03:00] ju5k1: if you've got nvidia graphics, getting TV out is quite easy
[16:03:00] ju5k1: dunno about ATI though
[16:03:00] ian_: Now I have TV-out using the "vesa" driver
[16:04:00] ju5k1: what chipset?
[16:04:00] ian_: It's that horrible three letter acronym
[16:04:00] ian_: It's an ati 9100 IGP
[16:04:00] ju5k1: sorry – no idea about ATI TV out
[16:05:00] ** ian_ nearly brings up his dinner **
[16:05:00] ju5k1: if I knew anything about it I'd tell you
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[16:05:00] ian_: Well anyway, thats not the problem, TV-out is now bearable
[16:05:00] ju5k1: okay...
[16:05:00] ju5k1: btw don't fight the dinner ;)
[16:06:00] ian_: lol, my channel data's all a bit of a mess and I wanted to start over
[16:06:00] ju5k1: ah well that I can help with
[16:07:00] ian_: I'm trying to use "scan" to get something sane into a channels.conf file, as directed on the site i mentioned earlier
[16:07:00] ju5k1: right...
[16:07:00] ju5k1: ian_: 0.18.1 can't import a channels.conf btw
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[16:08:00] ian_: The guide uses this so that you can use tzap, just to see if you can watch TV, before you try and start using mythtv
[16:09:00] ju5k1: right..
[16:09:00] ju5k1: did it work before though? If so – no need for that step, surely?
[16:09:00] ian_: It did work before, but it doesn't now
[16:10:00] ian_: sudo scan /usr/share/doc/dvb-utils/examples/scan/dvb-t/uk-WinterHill > /root/.tzap/channels.conf
[16:10:00] ju5k1: the guide is good for getting folks to do that.. best practise :)
[16:10:00] ju5k1: is mythbackend running?
[16:10:00] ian_: That was my first problem, it was tieing up the DVB device, so I stopped it
[16:10:00] ju5k1: if it is, stop it, cos it'll be hogging the card
[16:10:00] ju5k1: good stuff
[16:11:00] ian_: I suppose it would be useful for me to show you what I'm getting at the terminal
[16:11:00] ju5k1: yeh pop erros into a pastebin
[16:11:00] ju5k1: silly question – the aerial hasn't become unplugged now has it?
[16:12:00] ian_: I'm new to pastebin but I'll give it a go
[16:14:00] ian_: nope, reception's a bit rubbish. If I plug it back into the tv and look at some analogue channels it seems ok
[16:14:00] ian_: I'm using a DVB-T card btw
[16:14:00] ian_: I have to drop out of IRC for a sec.
[16:14:00] ju5k1: I gathered ;)
[16:16:00] minimike: mythtv is a big bug
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[16:16:00] minimike: :/
[16:16:00] minimike: i cant scan no channel
[16:17:00] ju5k1: minimike: with what?
[16:17:00] minimike: with a analog tv card
[16:17:00] ju5k1: never been able to do that AFAIK
[16:18:00] ju5k1: but I _think_ it's in the SVN version – I'm probably wrong though
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[16:18:00] minimike: i can grab channels with xmltv but no one has got a frequency id
[16:18:00] _ian: I'm back baby
[16:19:00] minimike: with the stable and the svn version
[16:19:00] ju5k1: minimike: where are you?
[16:19:00] minimike: germany
[16:19:00] ju5k1: don't think any european xml grabbers put channel frequencies into the database
[16:19:00] minimike: the button for scanning channels is not availbale
[16:20:00] ju5k1: minimike: I think that's just for DVB users
[16:20:00] minimike: i can not *push* it
[16:20:00] ju5k1: you have to use another app to find the channel frequencies
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[16:21:00] _ian: got my pastebin ready http://pastebin.ca/35997
[16:21:00] ju5k1: _ian: DVB isn't broadcast at as high a power as analogue
[16:21:00] _ian: ah
[16:21:00] minimike: and how can i tell mythtv the frequence from another app
[16:22:00] ju5k1: minimike: this is the kind of stuff that's been covered lots of times before. search the mailing lists, forums & chat archive
[16:22:00] minimike: dont know, maybe i install windows mediacenter cause that works
[16:22:00] _ian: ju5k1: ok, but I have had it working before and the picture was fine
[16:23:00] ju5k1: n: I sometimes get that with my card – think it's a slight issue with the card driver. keep trying it
[16:23:00] ju5k1: minimike: go for it
[16:23:00] _ian: ju5k1: Does the output look like I have a weak signal
[16:23:00] minimike: sorry i am realy desilusioned
[16:23:00] minimike: cua
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[16:23:00] GreyFoxx: hahah
[16:23:00] ju5k1: tosser
[16:23:00] stuarta: _ian: you never get a lock
[16:24:00] _ian: stuarta: nope
[16:24:00] ju5k1: _ian: if you don;t get a lock its prolly cos the signal is too weak.. or it might just be it's timing out too soon
[16:24:00] _ian: ok
[16:24:00] ju5k1: happens erratically with my card, and it's got a great signal
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[16:25:00] _ian: I think I'll go and move the aerial. It should be pointing towards Oxford, as you migh expect looking at that pastebin
[16:26:00] ju5k1: good luck – aligning digi aerials is never easy.. though I just guessed mine & gaffer taped it to a rafter
[16:26:00] _ian: lol, nice
[16:26:00] stuarta: luckily we can see crystal palace from our place
[16:26:00] _ian: back soonish
[16:27:00] ju5k1: time to be offski
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[16:35:00] a1fa: lirc 0.7.2 is not compatible with kernel 2.6.15
[16:35:00] a1fa: sucka S:0
[16:35:00] a1fa: anyway.. i have a problem with mythtv-backend starting
[16:35:00] a1fa: from rc scripts
[16:36:00] a1fa: what user should run mythtv backend anyway? root or mythtv?
[16:36:00] a1fa: i dont feel like running it like root
[16:36:00] GreyFoxx: Whatever you choose
[16:36:00] GreyFoxx: and long as it has permissions to the storage directory and files it doesn't matter what user
[16:36:00] GreyFoxx: and of course permissions to access your capture devices
[16:36:00] a1fa: Could not create //.mythtv
[16:37:00] a1fa: ok.. GreyFoxx : the init scripts, says run it as mythtv
[16:37:00] a1fa: start-stop-daemon
[16:37:00] a1fa: runs mythbackend as mytivo
[16:37:00] a1fa: err. as mythtv user
[16:37:00] a1fa: so /home/mythtv/.mythtv/
[16:37:00] a1fa: why is it trying to run it from //.mythtv/
[16:38:00] GreyFoxx: maybe it's looking for a $HOME environment variable ? Go read your init script
[16:38:00] GreyFoxx: myth does not come with init scripts, so any that you have must be stuff you make or some packager made
[16:39:00] a1fa: i am using that old init script from debian packages
[16:39:00] a1fa: hehe
[16:39:00] a1fa: i am bout to scrap it and make my own
[16:39:00] a1fa: and do su – mythtv /usr/bin/myth,, :p
[16:40:00] GreyFoxx: that would do it
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[16:43:00] GreyFoxx: http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/rc.mythtv
[16:43:00] GreyFoxx: That's what I use on my master backend
[16:49:00] a1fa: yeah
[16:49:00] a1fa: i've looked it
[16:49:00] a1fa: you dont do su? you run it as root?
[16:50:00] GreyFoxx: The backend I run as root yeah
[16:50:00] GreyFoxx: on my dev machine I run it as mythtv mainly because I don't autostart it on my slavew backend
[16:50:00] GreyFoxx: the frontends run as the mythtv user
[16:53:00] a1fa: kewl
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[16:58:00] a1fa: ping
[16:58:00] a1fa: my box just froze up
[16:58:00] a1fa: remotrely
[16:58:00] a1fa: i cant believe this shit dude
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[16:59:00] a1fa: i dont know if it is the cable modem
[16:59:00] a1fa: or the box it self
[17:01:00] Chacabaou: I get this message when trying to transcode a dvb-recording (on a headless backend machine without any audio devices): NVR::AudioInit() This Unix doesn't support device files for audio access. Skipping
[17:02:00] Chacabaou: Can't I use mythtranscode on such a machine?
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[17:05:00] Beirdo: Hmmm
[17:05:00] Beirdo: I feel the need to play with stamps again
[17:06:00] a1fa: i need to go home and reboot my bo
[17:06:00] a1fa: i cant believe it ufcke dup
[17:06:00] rjune: your keyboard too
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[17:11:00] GreyFoxx: a1fa: has it been locking up or are you just loosing your connection to it through your cable modem ?
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[17:14:00] Beirdo: any foreigners feel like sending me a postcard, let me know. Heheheh
[17:15:00] a1fa: i cant get to it
[17:15:00] a1fa: so i think it locked up
[17:15:00] a1fa: i have to drive 10miles
[17:15:00] a1fa: to see what up
[17:16:00] Beirdo: walk uphill 10 miles... then walk uphill 10 miles to get home?
[17:16:00] ian___: hello again
[17:16:00] a1fa: i am @ work
[17:16:00] a1fa: i need to drive 10 miles
[17:16:00] a1fa: and drive 10 miles back to work
[17:16:00] Beirdo: gotta love that
[17:16:00] Beirdo: I borked a server in colo before
[17:16:00] Beirdo: hehe
[17:16:00] Beirdo: thankfully, it was Friday evening
[17:16:00] a1fa: i will be pissed if the box is freezing up again
[17:17:00] Beirdo: the colo was 450km away
[17:17:00] a1fa: its freezing up for no reason tho
[17:17:00] a1fa: thats whats pissing me off
[17:17:00] a1fa: not bad
[17:17:00] a1fa: did u fly down there
[17:17:00] Beirdo: nope
[17:17:00] Beirdo: I drove
[17:17:00] stuarta: alfa: found it was my video card overheating...
[17:17:00] a1fa: stuarta : nvidia?
[17:17:00] Beirdo: fixed the f'ing machine, rebooted it... drove back the next day
[17:17:00] Beirdo: now THAT's a waste of time :)
[17:17:00] xris: Beirdo: I remember that. heh
[17:17:00] a1fa: its only 40 degrees inside
[17:17:00] Beirdo: yeah, I was SOOO unimpressed
[17:17:00] Beirdo: hehe
[17:18:00] a1fa: its only a 102 F in the box
[17:18:00] a1fa: that is not enough to make it overheat
[17:18:00] xris: one of the reasons why I host my stuff at home
[17:18:00] stuarta: ati, but wouldn't surprise me if the same thing happens with nvidia
[17:18:00] xris: until I get slashdotted, of course.
[17:18:00] a1fa: at 100F?
[17:18:00] Beirdo: xris: got any friends in Peru who can send me stamps? :)
[17:18:00] stuarta: it's the GPU temp that's important
[17:19:00] a1fa: that is the cpu temp
[17:19:00] a1fa: cpu temp is like 45c
[17:19:00] a1fa: 114F
[17:19:00] stuarta: emphasis on GPU
[17:19:00] a1fa: ph
[17:19:00] a1fa: :P
[17:19:00] xris: not anymore
[17:19:00] a1fa: it has a heat sink
[17:19:00] Beirdo: awww
[17:19:00] a1fa: it cant overheat that bad
[17:19:00] xris: my parents are talking about going back this summer, though
[17:19:00] Beirdo: hehe
[17:19:00] xris: I'd like to go along except for the complete lack of vegetarian food
[17:20:00] stuarta: feel how hot it is when you get home, if it hurts, that's your problem
[17:20:00] Beirdo: wonder if there are good stamp shops in San Juan
[17:20:00] xris: costa rica?
[17:21:00] ian___: Does anyone know where mythtv puts it's recorded files and buffer etc. by default under Ubuntu
[17:21:00] Beirdo: Puerto Rico, silly :)
[17:21:00] Beirdo: hehhe
[17:21:00] stuarta: gotta go...
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[17:23:00] xris: Beirdo: thus my confusion... san juan is also in costa rica.. and having been there a few times, it's first in my mind.
[17:23:00] a1fa: ian___ : run myth-setup u lazy ass
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[17:23:00] a1fa: /mnt/store/videos
[17:23:00] a1fa: or something
[17:23:00] xris: Beirdo: btw, update your mythweb
[17:23:00] Beirdo: hehe, again?
[17:23:00] xris: yes
[17:23:00] Beirdo: what did ya add? :)
[17:23:00] xris: dunno when you last did it
[17:24:00] xris: added more program info display last night (to better match the front end)
[17:24:00] a1fa: i need to train my cat to press reset button over voip
[17:24:00] a1fa: i dial my answering machine at home
[17:24:00] a1fa: give the cat a command
[17:24:00] a1fa: and he goes commando balistic
[17:24:00] ian___: alfa: sorry, I couldn't find the section in myth-setup which allows you to choose where files are stored
[17:24:00] Beirdo: updating ;)
[17:24:00] a1fa: ian___ myth-setup general
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[17:25:00] UncleBill: later all
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[17:25:00] Beirdo: where's the new stuff?
[17:25:00] xris: a1fa: or you could get a smart pdu
[17:25:00] Beirdo: tv/detail.php, eh?
[17:25:00] xris: Beirdo: details page, or in the popups on the list page
[17:25:00] a1fa: xris : that shit costs money
[17:25:00] xris: a1fa: yes, it does. heh.
[17:25:00] a1fa: i should get a RAC card instead
[17:25:00] xris: so do cat-training lessons.  :)
[17:26:00] ian___: I take it you mean mythtv-setup
[17:26:00] a1fa: no
[17:26:00] a1fa: cat lessons are free
[17:26:00] Beirdo: coolness
[17:26:00] a1fa: i train my cat to do amazing shit
[17:26:00] Beirdo: you should add a canned search...
[17:27:00] Beirdo: movies: 2 stars or less
[17:27:00] ian___: Sorry to bother you all. Byes
[17:27:00] Beirdo: so we can find the stinker movies :)
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[17:28:00] nuxil: hello people
[17:28:00] nuxil: does anyone know irxevent in here?
[17:28:00] xris: Beirdo: oh? send me a patch.  :P
[17:28:00] Beirdo: heheh
[17:28:00] nuxil: i could use some help with it..
[17:28:00] ** a1fa is waiting for streamzap patch w/ 2.6.15 **
[17:28:00] Beirdo: I asked for that
[17:28:00] a1fa: its incompatible with 2.6.15
[17:29:00] Beirdo: the stars is 0–1.0?
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[17:31:00] Juski: streamzap? mythtv doesn't need that...
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[17:31:00] Beirdo: xris: your 3.5+ stars seems wrong
[17:32:00] Beirdo: you have > 0.8 which would be > 4 stars, no?
[17:32:00] Beirdo: or am I misunderstanding the scale?
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[17:32:00] a1fa: Juski : lol
[17:32:00] a1fa: Juski : i need that
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[17:33:00] beavis: xris: what's the way to translate the categories in mythweb? It displays the different colors but it doesn't translate the categories
[17:33:00] Beirdo: hmmm, unrated show up with < 0.5
[17:33:00] a1fa: i seriously need to crain my cat
[17:33:00] a1fa: to push buttons
[17:33:00] a1fa: :P
[17:33:00] a1fa: might as well be useful
[17:33:00] a1fa: i pay for his darn food and clean his shit
[17:33:00] a1fa: all he has to do is push a button when i call in
[17:33:00] ** a1fa calls his cat **
[17:34:00] a1fa: he aint picking up
[17:34:00] a1fa: that jack ass :p
[17:34:00] a1fa: what do i do if the boxor is overheating?
[17:34:00] laga: downcloxxor it
[17:34:00] laga: a1fa: do you speak english?
[17:34:00] a1fa: 2nd language :p?
[17:34:00] a1fa: no i dont
[17:35:00] a1fa: i allready downclocked it
[17:35:00] a1fa: to 1.3ghz... i guess i need to go down to 1.1ghz
[17:35:00] a1fa: what if GPU is overheating
[17:35:00] fryfrog: cooling monkey?
[17:35:00] a1fa: its fanless w/heatsink
[17:35:00] a1fa: Gforce
[17:35:00] a1fa: fryfrog : maybe i can train my cat to blow on it
[17:35:00] GreyFoxx: add a fan ?
[17:36:00] a1fa: add a fan on heatsink?
[17:36:00] GreyFoxx: sure
[17:36:00] a1fa: that might work
[17:36:00] a1fa: but i need to be sure that is the problem
[17:36:00] xris: beavis: categories come from the tv listing service
[17:36:00] a1fa: random freezups
[17:36:00] a1fa: no log, nothing
[17:36:00] a1fa: its so fucking annoying
[17:36:00] a1fa: maybe its my cat
[17:36:00] a1fa: turning the box off, while i am not looking to make me go balistiX
[17:36:00] GreyFoxx: normally you wouldn't get an instant "lock" from overheating
[17:36:00] beavis: xris: so categories don't use the language.php file?
[17:37:00] xris: but if you look at the bottom of your languge.php file there's a $Categories array
[17:37:00] GreyFoxx: you would get tons of errors building up to a crash
[17:37:00] xris: beavis: no. it prints them verbatim
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[17:37:00] xris: at least, I think
[17:37:00] a1fa: ah, dude
[17:37:00] xris: haven't really look at the code in awhile
[17:37:00] a1fa: this freaked me out
[17:37:00] beavis: xris: so they can't be translated?
[17:37:00] a1fa: i wrote a $60 check to somebody
[17:38:00] a1fa: and i forgot to who
[17:38:00] a1fa: "retail service"
[17:38:00] a1fa: lol
[17:38:00] a1fa: i just remembered
[17:38:00] a1fa: rememberd
[17:38:00] Juski: that's what the left hand side of the book is for
[17:38:00] a1fa: i use temp checks
[17:38:00] a1fa: they are free
[17:38:00] a1fa: i go to 10 branches
[17:38:00] a1fa: and they each print me 20 temp checks
[17:38:00] unkle: hi!
[17:38:00] a1fa: 10x20 = 200
[17:38:00] a1fa: 200 free chekcs
[17:39:00] a1fa: i do that once i am out
[17:39:00] xris: beavis: from a quick look at the code, it assumes that the category names are already in the correct language
[17:39:00] a1fa: i do all that in under an hour
[17:39:00] a1fa: and i spend $1 in gass
[17:39:00] a1fa: so $1 ~ 200 CHECKS
[17:39:00] ** laga gives a1fa a weird look **
[17:39:00] a1fa: i'm kidding
[17:39:00] Juski: sounds dodgy if you ask me
[17:40:00] GreyFoxx: My bank gives me cheques for free.
[17:40:00] a1fa: nice
[17:40:00] GreyFoxx: free to get them, free to use them
[17:40:00] GreyFoxx: I even get to pick the "Style" and background image
[17:40:00] GreyFoxx: Though I think I've used 3 of them in the last 3 years I've had that particular account
[17:40:00] a1fa: sweet
[17:40:00] Juski: pisses me off whenever I see "you have not been charged for this transaction" at ATMs, when clearly that's not what they mean
[17:40:00] a1fa: do you pay for youyr checking account?
[17:41:00] GreyFoxx: a1fa: Nope
[17:41:00] a1fa: what bank? Wells Fargo?
[17:41:00] Beirdo: ahhhh, there's an offset of 0.125
[17:41:00] Beirdo: ahah
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[17:41:00] unkle: xris, hello :) may i disturb you for a few minutes regarding a fishy issue with mythweb ?
[17:41:00] GreyFoxx: a1fa: No, I have accounts at several banks, and only 1 charges me any sort of fees, but the one I use most is from a bank you have likely never heard of here in Canada :)
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[17:42:00] a1fa: ah
[17:42:00] a1fa: canadians
[17:42:00] fryfrog: GreyFoxx: I've heard of the Bank of Canada for Homosexuals with Cats who wear Diapers
[17:42:00] GreyFoxx: ummm ok
[17:43:00] Beirdo: that must be Svend Robinson's bank
[17:43:00] GreyFoxx: Anyone know if zap2it is still sending out blank program data ?
[17:43:00] ** laga has trouble following the conversations in here today ;) **
[17:43:00] ** a1fa is splitting his mythtv into frontend – backend design **
[17:43:00] GreyFoxx: I disabled mythfilldb for the moment :)
[17:43:00] Beirdo: it never sent me blank info once
[17:43:00] GreyFoxx: laga: I have no idea where that one came from either ;)
[17:43:00] GreyFoxx: Beirdo: I got blank info yesterday
[17:43:00] Beirdo: what time do you poll at?
[17:44:00] GreyFoxx: 1:30pm. They asked me to change to that time in my survey
[17:44:00] xris: unkle: sure, though I'll be slow to respond.. busy day
[17:44:00] laga: xris: hey. did anyone except me complain to you about mythtranscode --transcode not working properly when cropping the broadcast border?
[17:44:00] Beirdo: hmm, OK
[17:44:00] Beirdo: dunno
[17:44:00] GreyFoxx: Beirdo: It was weird, I ran it once and only 1 of my two video sources came back blank
[17:44:00] GreyFoxx: the second time (after a programs restore) both were blank
[17:44:00] Beirdo: maybe those channels didn't provide them data
[17:45:00] GreyFoxx: no, they do :)
[17:45:00] xris: laga: you mean nuvexport? works for me
[17:45:00] Beirdo: interesting
[17:45:00] GreyFoxx: I ended up with 0 data for any channel yesterday :) first one source then the next
[17:45:00] beavis: xris: strange, the EPG in mythweb uses different colors but doesn't translate them here (beside of "unknown")
[17:45:00] laga: xris: what version of transcode, if i may ask?
[17:45:00] GreyFoxx: luckily I backup daily and just restored the tables for it
[17:45:00] xris: laga: looks like 1.0.2
[17:45:00] GreyFoxx: saw it mentioned on the -users list too
[17:46:00] xris: beavis: what language? and what language are the categories in in the database?
[17:46:00] unkle: xris, thats ok for sure :) im having some trouble with video.php cutting the -first- 5 chars of the filename in the url of the videos. This happens on both IE and FF browsers
[17:46:00] xris: unkle: .18?
[17:46:00] laga: xris: wow. i've had trouble with 0.6.14 und 1.0.1. wait a sec.
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[17:47:00] xris: laga: never had a problem. I use it when I export stuff all the time
[17:47:00] ** Juski boots up the noisy, noisy box **
[17:47:00] unkle: xris, heh... im using "the unmentionable distribution" (i learned yesterday that it wasnt popular) ...you can also check the log from yesterday for further info
[17:47:00] fryfrog: poor debian users :/
[17:47:00] Beirdo: OK, xris, patch has been emailed to you
[17:47:00] GreyFoxx: unkle: What distro is that ?
[17:48:00] ** kormoc blinks **
[17:48:00] xris: unkle: known bug, fixed a long time ago in svn
[17:48:00] Juski: not_myth
[17:48:00] laga: xris: that's the problem: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.tra . . . ch=nuvexport
[17:48:00] ** xris wonders why people suddenly call knopmyth the "unmentionable" **
[17:48:00] a1fa: anybody know if Intel 82865G Graphics Memory Controller Hub (GMCH) with Accelerated Hub Architecture bus VIDEO-OUT is supported?
[17:48:00] unkle: xris, ok, sorry for the inconvenience then, – ill have to see if i can figure out how to update from svn :) thanks !
[17:48:00] Beirdo: hey laga, you got any stamp shops nearby? ;)
[17:49:00] laga: Beirdo: yeah, we use them all the time if we want to send letters and stuff. ;)
[17:49:00] kormoc: a1fa, google knows
[17:49:00] a1fa: kormoc : god knows
[17:49:00] xris: unkle: svn mythweb will only work with svn mythtv
[17:49:00] Beirdo: no, that's a postoffice
[17:49:00] Beirdo: not a stamp shop :)
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[17:49:00] unkle: xris, perhaps, if the bug is only in video.php i could get happy by only updating that one file (?)
[17:49:00] laga: Beirdo: hehe. well, i don't know of any. we have a few second hand shops that sell all kinds of crap
[17:50:00] Beirdo: aww
[17:50:00] Juski: unkle: I think it's all changed
[17:50:00] Beirdo: I found a real nice one in Vienna
[17:50:00] unkle: Juski, ok
[17:50:00] Beirdo: in Karlsplatz station to be exact
[17:50:00] xris: unkle: it's all been moved.. you could browse the revisions in trac, though, and grab something from right after it was fixed.. was fixed shortly after .18.1 was released, I think
[17:50:00] laga: Beirdo: well, vienna is probably *slightly* bigger than my town. :)
[17:50:00] Beirdo: hehe
[17:50:00] Beirdo: no kidding? ;)
[17:50:00] Beirdo: hehe
[17:50:00] Juski: oh ffs how long does it *take* to mount a nfs share? this is pissing me off now
[17:50:00] xris: laga: really weird. no clue
[17:51:00] laga: xris: k. sad that the transcode guys didn't know either.
[17:51:00] Beirdo: xris: you get my patch email?
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[17:51:00] unkle: xris, ok ill check it, thanks again :)
[17:51:00] kormoc: a1fa, http://www.xfree86.org/~dawes/845driver.html
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[17:51:00] laga: Juski: it shouldn't take long. maybe try with tcp only
[17:51:00] kormoc: a1fa, imagine that, on the first page via google
[17:51:00] Beirdo: BRB
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[17:52:00] Juski: laga: tried that.. and with nosync.. still takes a frickin age
[17:52:00] laga: Juski: works fine here
[17:52:00] Juski: hrm
[17:52:00] Juski: it's not the gentoo box's fault either.. my frontend mounts much faster
[17:52:00] GreyFoxx: Justki: got rpc.portmap running on both boxes ?
[17:52:00] Juski: dunno
[17:53:00] GreyFoxx: I've run into instances where it took like 5 minutes if one of them didn't have it running (don't remember exactly which)
[17:53:00] laga: i think there's some troubleshooting stuff in the NFS howto
[17:53:00] GreyFoxx: and maybe another service
[17:53:00] xris: unkle: did a quick look and I can't find it
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[17:53:00] Juski: doesn't seem to be running on the box that's taking ages to mount
[17:54:00] kormoc: is portmap running?
[17:54:00] xris: unkle: maybe this one: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/3770
[17:54:00] Juski: nope
[17:54:00] Juski: portmap isn't running
[17:54:00] xris: and http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/3739
[17:54:00] kormoc: isn't that something that should be?
[17:54:00] ** kormoc seems to recall that it is **
[17:55:00] xris: unkle: or you could just upgrade to svn.
[17:55:00] unkle: xris, that was fast ! im still browsing... ill give 3739 a shot
[17:55:00] kormoc: gentoo automatically starts up portmap for you, but other distros likely doesn't
[17:55:00] Juski: server's running it I think
[17:56:00] Juski: ahh
[17:56:00] Juski: so erm.. what difference does it make?
[17:56:00] kormoc: yeah, I'm not sure if it's required on the client or not...
[17:56:00] unkle: xris, im still a newb ...but ive started building a second box so i will try it on that one
[17:56:00] xris: Beirdo: that sure looks like "half a star or less"
[17:57:00] xris: oh, I see
[17:57:00] xris: it's not a number scale
[17:57:00] xris: it's something else
[17:57:00] kormoc: Juski, Portmap is a server that converts RPC program numbers into DARPA protocol port numbers. It must be running in order to make RPC calls.
[17:57:00] fryfrog: so THAT is what portmap is
[17:57:00] Juski: right.. and those will speed up the negotiation of the NFS share I take it
[17:57:00] kormoc: that's the thought
[17:58:00] Beirdo: well, it's 2 stars or less
[17:58:00] xris: Beirdo: ok, it's in
[17:58:00] Juski: umbongo didn't even have portmap installed. go figure
[17:58:00] xris: cd
[17:58:00] xris: oops
[17:58:00] Beirdo: the numbers are 0–1.0 with 1.0 being 4 stars as far as I can see (from your display code) :)
[17:58:00] kormoc: Juski, keep in mind, I really have no idea if it is required on the client or not, I just know that on the server, you must have it running
[17:59:00] kormoc: Juski, the gentoo howto seems to agree with me, http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Share_Directories_via_NFS , under section Mounting exported directories
[18:00:00] Beirdo: hehe
[18:00:00] Juski: unmounted, with portmap running, then remounted.. ding! uber fast! thanks guys
[18:00:00] Beirdo: thanks, xris
[18:00:00] kormoc: coolness
[18:00:00] Beirdo: often the stinker movies according to the critics are the ones I like to watch :)
[18:00:00] GreyFoxx: Juski: Hehe
[18:00:00] Juski: wouldn't even have the prompt back yet otherwise
[18:01:00] _willcooke_: Juski, I had that same problem!
[18:01:00] kormoc: Beirdo, a ed wood fan, eh? :)
[18:01:00] _willcooke_: Stupid Umbongo
[18:01:00] Beirdo: they have all kinds of cool stuff rated 1.5 stars
[18:01:00] GreyFoxx: Juski: I ran into that years ago so it's the first thing I check with that particular problem :)
[18:02:00] Juski: should shave about 10 mins of the boot time of that box :-D
[18:02:00] GreyFoxx: heh
[18:02:00] Juski: can I have some more volunteers to test my theme please?
[18:03:00] ** _willcooke_ raises a hand **
[18:03:00] Beirdo: not me, sorry :)
[18:03:00] Beirdo: I like my Titivillus.
[18:03:00] Beirdo: blue is my friend
[18:03:00] Juski: _willcooke_ you know where it lives ;)
[18:03:00] _willcooke_: Roger! I'll stick it on
[18:05:00] Juski: now unbongo has forgotten to start its vnc server...
[18:05:00] Beirdo: Juski, you could try to be less disparaging
[18:05:00] Juski: ah. and it's come up in 640x480 AGAIN
[18:06:00] Juski: I realise that but it's frustrating.. it works most of the time
[18:06:00] Juski: and when it does I really like it
[18:06:00] Beirdo: heh
[18:07:00] Juski: with this kind of thing (linux) you set a setting in a config file, save it.. and it stays
[18:07:00] Juski: only in this case it sometimes feels like doing something else.. quirky
[18:08:00] Juski: prolly a user error but I'm damned if I know what it is
[18:08:00] GreyFoxx: Man , reading through a slashdot thread about A new Tivo is painful. Nothing but whiny b*tches complaining that "MythTv was too hard, Tivo just worked"
[18:08:00] beavis: xris: German.php, the language used to display the categories in mythweb in EN
[18:08:00] Juski: leave the whiny bitches to their whining, is what I say
[18:08:00] Beirdo: GreyFoxx, just wait until they bitch about the restrictions Tivo has
[18:08:00] GreyFoxx: If myth restricted your choice of harwdare and such as much as a tivo does it would be plug and play as well
[18:08:00] Beirdo: and who cares about slashcrap anyways?
[18:09:00] laga: slashdot is usually not interesting
[18:09:00] laga: to me, at least :)
[18:09:00] GreyFoxx: DEvelopinging for a closed, non upgradable platform is a lot easier that trying to make it flexible for people to use anything and everything with it
[18:09:00] Juski: slash {sl}.. to pee
[18:09:00] laga: GreyFoxx: reminds me of VDR. with those cute FF cards:)
[18:10:00] beavis: xris: the blue color used for the category "Movie" is exactly the same used for the borders, is it just a mistake in my language file?
[18:10:00] Juski: there we go.. rebooted.. 1280x1024 & the vnc server is running.. wth?
[18:11:00] xris: beavis: yeah.. could be a broken regex in the language file
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[18:13:00] linagee: is there a way on mythweb to see the scheduled recordings from yesterday?
[18:15:00] GreyFoxx: I don't think so
[18:17:00] GreyFoxx: I'm not sure when the data gets removed from the "record" table either
[18:17:00] a1fa: tshit :P
[18:17:00] a1fa: gotta work my ass off
[18:18:00] a1fa: later
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[18:19:00] GreyFoxx: select recordid,chanid,startdate,starttime,endtime,title,subtitle from record where startdate="2006-01–05";
[18:19:00] GreyFoxx: That pulls up my list from yesterday
[18:20:00] GreyFoxx: but mythfilldatabase is what clears out the old entries I belive, so if it's run already they might be gone
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[18:29:00] _willcooke_: isn't there a "previously recorded" menu in the front end, that must keep it's stuff somewhere?
[18:29:00] ** _willcooke_ looks a the db **
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[18:30:00] kcody: anyone know where the ivtv crowd lurks?
[18:30:00] kormoc: _willcooke_, oldrecorded iirc or similar
[18:30:00] kormoc: kcody, ivtvdriver.org
[18:31:00] _willcooke_: from recorded select * where starttime (today minus 1 day, can't remember the sql for that something like DATE(DAY,-1))
[18:33:00] _willcooke_: AND recgroup != livetv
[18:33:00] kormoc: (CURDATE() + INTERVAL 1 DAY)
[18:33:00] _willcooke_: 'cus the sudo SQL!
[18:33:00] kormoc: or rather, – 1 DAY
[18:33:00] ** _willcooke_ can only write SQL with a book in front of him **
[18:34:00] Beirdo: hey, I wonder if this is the shop I went to: www.kosel.com
[18:34:00] _willcooke_: preferably a sql book, or the mysql web site
[18:34:00] Beirdo: it's definitely in Wien, AT :)
[18:34:00] Beirdo: hehe
[18:35:00] Beirdo: laga: what's "Sondermarken"
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[18:37:00] ** Juski looks at holiday villas **
[18:38:00] ** _willcooke_ looks at his bank account. :-( **
[18:38:00] ** Beirdo watches the Simpsons **
[18:38:00] _willcooke_: which episode?!
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[18:40:00] Beirdo: whichever one it is ;)(
[18:40:00] Beirdo: hehhe
[18:40:00] Beirdo: it's the one where Lisa gets into Mensa
[18:40:00] Beirdo: and then they try to run the town
[18:40:00] Beirdo: hehe
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[18:40:00] ** _willcooke_ hasnt seen that one. :( **
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[18:42:00] linagee: wtf. why has my myth box not been recording anything? is there a non technical reason for this?
[18:42:00] linagee: did they cancel all the shows this week or something?
[18:42:00] Beirdo: how the fuck should we know?
[18:42:00] _willcooke_: enough electricity?
[18:43:00] Juski: linagee: how non-technical do you want? it not worky
[18:43:00] linagee: _willcooke_: well i looked at the future recording list and it says some should be recording tonight. (friday)
[18:43:00] linagee: _willcooke_: but i usually have like 3 or 4 shows record a night....
[18:43:00] kormoc: linagee, yes, it's national turn off the tv week
[18:43:00] GreyFoxx: Do you log your mythbackend output ?
[18:43:00] linagee: kormoc: why? :(
[18:43:00] Juski: mythbackend didn't like your taste in shows.. how's that?
[18:43:00] linagee: LOL
[18:44:00] _willcooke_: There are 3 things you can check....
[18:44:00] _willcooke_: 1. The logs
[18:44:00] _willcooke_: 2. The logs
[18:44:00] _willcooke_: and.......... (all together now)
[18:44:00] Beirdo: and 3. your sanity at the door
[18:45:00] kormoc: I figured by entering this channel, you already left your sanity way way behind
[18:46:00] Beirdo: hehe
[18:46:00] linagee: kormoc: national turn off your TV week. we're going to shows reruns so that way your myth box and tivos skip everything. :-)
[18:46:00] Beirdo: good point
[18:46:00] Juski: seriously though linagee: how are you for disk space?
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[18:46:00] linagee: Juski: looks good. 47% out of ~300gb
[18:47:00] Juski: you have a cat or dog? maybe the aerial got unplugged
[18:47:00] linagee: Juski: it's just that i have everything set up to automatically handle the shows when they're done and the line has been empty. ;-)
[18:47:00] linagee: Juski: nope
[18:47:00] linagee: Juski: i mean, nope. :-(
[18:47:00] Juski: livetv still work?
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[18:48:00] linagee: no idea. no X on that terminal
[18:48:00] linagee: _willcooke_: the logs, the logs, the cookie
[18:48:00] Juski: livetv has its uses :)
[18:48:00] hgstabrf: has anyone tried to compile mythtv 0.18.1 on opensuse10??? i get an error in common.h
[18:49:00] Juski: hgstabrf: probably missing libraries
[18:49:00] linagee: Juski: it's probably working. i'll just be all pissy tonight if i miss my friday lineup. ;-)
[18:49:00] hgstabrf: hmm ./configure also throws strange errors...
[18:49:00] Juski: hgstabrf: probably missing libraries
[18:49:00] linagee: Juski: aha. i could always schedule a show to record. duh
[18:49:00] hgstabrf: damn v4l on slackware :)
[18:49:00] linagee: Juski: like some dumb middle of the day thing on right now. ;-)
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[18:50:00] hgstabrf: Juski, cat: /etc//etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden (file not found ;)
[18:51:00] Juski: btw xris: I _really_ like the warning in mythweb about conflicts.. infact I like everything about the new mythweb.. you is a star!
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[18:51:00] hgstabrf: Juski, it seems opensuse does something strange...
[18:52:00] linagee: Juski: it looks like it's recording all by itself.... looking at the NUVs, there has been nothing on for the past 4 days..... interesting.
[18:52:00] linagee: Juski: i think the TV just ran out of shows
[18:52:00] Juski: who'da thunk it?
[18:53:00] Beirdo: you ran outta crap shows to record :)
[18:53:00] xris: Juski: thanks.
[18:53:00] xris: I like the direction it's heading.
[18:53:00] laga: Beirdo: 'sondermarken' are like special stamps put out on special occasions
[18:53:00] linagee: Beirdo: you mean, it already recorded all the crap shows, they're just showing them in a rerun loop now. :)
[18:54:00] xris: not entirely sure I like everything how it is.
[18:54:00] Beirdo: xris: yeah, it's looking even better with each revision
[18:54:00] dopez: hgstabrf: probably gcc 4 problems, get the stable svn and first run : export QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt3 ; export PATH=$QTDIR/bin:$PATH , then compile like normal (that worked for me at least)
[18:54:00] Beirdo: laga, ahhhh, the english term being commemorative
[18:54:00] Juski: that reminds me.. I need to look at speeding up the repeat rate in my lirc config – scrolling thru big lists takes it outta my finger
[18:54:00] Beirdo: gotcha, thanks, laga
[18:54:00] Beirdo: :)
[18:54:00] laga: Beirdo: english is overrated
[18:54:00] laga: ;)
[18:54:00] hgstabrf: dopester, thx :)
[18:54:00] Beirdo: well, the shop I was looking at is in Vienna, so a bit of German is useful
[18:54:00] laga: Beirdo: hehe
[18:55:00] linagee: do they still do the reruns simpsons on every day except sunday night?
[18:55:00] _willcooke_: Juski, "My Name Is Earl" tonight on 4, supposed to be very good. We will see.....
[18:55:00] Juski: linagee: depends where you live & who your TV companies are
[18:55:00] ** linagee remembers when they had a fresh episode every other night or so **
[18:55:00] Beirdo: linagee, here, the Simpsons are on 3–4 times a day all week
[18:55:00] Juski: _willcooke_: 'extras' was supposed to be the dogs' bollocks.. but it was crap in a rusty can
[18:55:00] linagee: Beirdo: they are here too, it's just all reruns i think
[18:55:00] kormoc: _willcooke_, my name is earl is very good, but you really should watch from the first show
[18:55:00] Beirdo: of course it is
[18:55:00] laga: we only get two showings of the simpsons every day :/
[18:55:00] xris: _willcooke_: was sort of funny when I watched. not really my style, though
[18:55:00] _willcooke_: kormoc, That's good, it's starting here tonight! Woo!
[18:56:00] linagee: Beirdo: i can't tell it to record then, because mythtv doesn't know i've already seen all the old simpsons. :)
[18:56:00] xris: more importantly, BSG is on tonight.
[18:56:00] _willcooke_: I'll record it and see how I get on!
[18:56:00] linagee: Beirdo: unless i was just trying to waste space
[18:56:00] _willcooke_: BSG?
[18:56:00] Juski: oh, that new 'invasion' thing is on C4 this weekend
[18:56:00] xris: linagee: that's what the "never record" link is for in mythweb
[18:56:00] _willcooke_: Juski, yeah, extras was arse.
[18:56:00] kormoc: linagee, or you just set it to record only on sundays at blah, when the new shows are showing
[18:56:00] _willcooke_: Juski, Invasion?
[18:56:00] xris: _willcooke_: battlestar galactica
[18:57:00] Juski: gervais cooks sock
[18:57:00] _willcooke_: xris, A series??
[18:57:00] _willcooke_: xris, a NEW series?
[18:57:00] xris: new
[18:57:00] GreyFoxx: xris: I can't wait!
[18:57:00] kormoc: yes, a scifi new series
[18:57:00] Juski: _willcooke_: it's like 'lost' with ail-ee-ings apparently
[18:57:00] xris: second half of the second season
[18:57:00] xris: best scifi on tv
[18:57:00] Juski: only I never watched 'lost'
[18:57:00] xris: one of the top 2 scifi shows of all time
[18:57:00] _willcooke_: Juski, lost got very boring very quickly
[18:57:00] _willcooke_: xris, Like startgate?
[18:58:00] GreyFoxx: stargate and altantis are on tonight as well
[18:58:00] GreyFoxx: all made by the same people :)
[18:58:00] laga: stargate atlantis rocked
[18:58:00] ** _willcooke_ likes atlantis **
[18:58:00] xris: _willcooke_: stargate has gone downhill this season
[18:58:00] _willcooke_: hehe, everyones a sci fi nerd. Supprised?
[18:58:00] xris: atlantis is just missing something
[18:58:00] GreyFoxx: xris: I started out quite unhappy with season 9, but I've gotten to like it as time went on
[18:58:00] Juski: I draw the line @ stargate.. same plot every damn episode
[18:58:00] xris: good actors, good characters, good writing.. but just doesn't do that much for me.
[18:59:00] Juski: Ds9 sucked a lot too
[18:59:00] GreyFoxx: The last couplek Alantis eps (airred here in Canada) were pretty good
[18:59:00] kormoc: atlantis has potentional, if they could only get the wraith to actually matter in some bigger sense
[18:59:00] xris: GreyFoxx: will see what they do with the second half of the season... the biggest problem is that the ori just have no personality.
[18:59:00] _willcooke_: Juski, (no offence to anyone intended but...) "Tourettes Camp is repeated tonight, I'm told is funny as fsck in a sick way.
[18:59:00] GreyFoxx: xris: yeah
[18:59:00] xris: kormoc: problem is that the wraith just aren't very believable...
[18:59:00] kormoc: I think largly it's the deus ex machina factor that's really doing it in imho
[18:59:00] xris: atlanteans would never have let them get that powerful
[18:59:00] Juski: _willcooke_: have they been videoing me potterring about with SVN?
[19:00:00] _willcooke_: Juski, lol
[19:00:00] GreyFoxx: They had to be unbelievable to have beating the unbelievable ancients :)
[19:00:00] Juski: _willcooke_: "Invasion, a new US import, is so preposterous, so badly written and so poorly acted that you should hate it – but you'll love it. It owes something to Lost in that lots of cardboard characters face adversity after disaster: in this case, a hurricane that hits Florida. Similarly, there's a hunky leading man and there's a strong sense of the supernatural. But for all its crassness, Invasion is a ripping yarn."
[19:00:00] kormoc: xris, yeah, but according to the serise, the wraith are just humans infected with a virus, and thus was unable to be contruled, due to the infection spreading so fast before they figured it out
[19:00:00] xris: GreyFoxx: just seems like it makes the ancients far more stupid than they've told us they're not.
[19:00:00] GreyFoxx: yeah
[19:01:00] xris: kormoc: sort of... not humans, but evolved from a combination of humans and that bug.
[19:01:00] xris: all from one planet.
[19:01:00] ** _willcooke_ suspects Juski likes "hunky leading men" **
[19:01:00] Juski: nothing will replace the 1st series of '24' for sheer shock & awe though.. "WTH? They did WHAT?! noooo"
[19:01:00] kormoc: xris, it wasn't evolved, it was from being bitten, anyone bitten by that bug turns into a wraith as well
[19:01:00] xris: kormoc: no
[19:01:00] linagee: kormoc: i have it to only record simpsons on sundays, i'm just wondering if they have new shows on any other days now
[19:01:00] kormoc: xris, ooh?
[19:01:00] GreyFoxx: kormoc: No, the Ancients were messing with DNA
[19:01:00] xris: shephard got bitten
[19:01:00] GreyFoxx: they created them
[19:01:00] Juski: the sub in my livingroom wasn't the only thing to get excited by Kiefer Sutherland's voice, apparently
[19:02:00] xris: some rogue ancient was experimenting with the bug and humans.. or something like that.
[19:02:00] xris: crossed DNA
[19:02:00] kormoc: xris, and he turned into very much like a wraith, didn't he?
[19:02:00] xris: kormoc: No
[19:02:00] xris: bug kills you
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[19:02:00] GreyFoxx: korc: No, You are thinking of the gene therapy that the Doc was giving that half wraith girl
[19:02:00] kormoc: GreyFoxx, ooh... maybe so... tis been awhile.
[19:03:00] xris: yeah
[19:03:00] defII: Is a restart of alsa required after you modify your asoundr`c ?
[19:03:00] ** GreyFoxx is a Stargate a holic **
[19:03:00] ** _willcooke_ records one showing every week of Invasion. It's worth a look, and if it's arse Juski gets -1 pints at Lugradio live **
[19:03:00] defII: .asoundrc
[19:03:00] xris: wraith only get evil as adults.
[19:03:00] kormoc: defII, nope
[19:03:00] GreyFoxx: I've seen every epp several rimes
[19:03:00] GreyFoxx: times even
[19:03:00] defII: kormoc, so it reads it everytime you use an audio device?
[19:03:00] kormoc: defII, yup
[19:03:00] defII: kormoc, cool thx
[19:04:00] kormoc: yeah, I've only seen each epsode once, and the, we solved blah with acient tech again just wears it a little thin. I love the cast, I love the universe, but they need to expand more, imho
[19:04:00] GreyFoxx: _willcooke_: Invasion is up to episode 10 and for the first time we actually SEE one of the aliens :)
[19:05:00] _willcooke_: :)
[19:05:00] _willcooke_: It can only be better then Big Brother
[19:05:00] Juski: GreyFoxx: you're kidding? maybe it's not gonna be as lame as 'dark skies' then
[19:05:00] Juski: oooo
[19:05:00] Juski: ooooo!
[19:06:00] _willcooke_: I got in dark skies, then they cancelled it
[19:06:00] _willcooke_: got in TO
[19:06:00] Juski: I saw the winner of BB in my hometown on xmas night! ooooooOOOO
[19:06:00] _willcooke_: it was B grade stock mind
[19:06:00] _willcooke_: Juski, did you throw any thing?
[19:06:00] Juski: I blinked & missed the chance
[19:06:00] ** _willcooke_ wouldnt recoginse the winner of BB if it rode past my house on an elephant **
[19:07:00] Juski: according to people at my table he was wearing a smoking jacket & a cravat :-/
[19:07:00] Juski: walked past just as I was saying "who the FSCK is antony hutton ffs?"
[19:07:00] _willcooke_: odd.
[19:08:00] Juski: I'm enjoying getting old.. I can feign ignorance of the hit parade & pop culture
[19:08:00] _willcooke_: right, walk the dog then pub. laters
[19:08:00] Juski: laters, will
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[19:08:00] ** Juski wonders where his tea has got to... **
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[19:36:00] xris: hahaha.. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00024 . . . 0735-4622314
[19:41:00] Beirdo: hehehe
[19:41:00] DarkBeer: nice
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[19:50:00] GreyFoxx: Bleee
[19:50:00] ** GreyFoxx ponders installing valgrind **
[19:51:00] Beirdo: always a good tool if you're gonna do development
[19:52:00] GreyFoxx: well I'm working on the EIT code and got the CPU load down drastically, but something isn't being freed after it's processed. I suspect I know what it is, but it wouldn't hurt to run it through valgrind anyway
[19:52:00] GreyFoxx: http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/eitload.png
[19:52:00] GreyFoxx: That's the CPU before the changes, and the last part is it now
[19:52:00] Beirdo: sheitload.png?
[19:52:00] GreyFoxx: heh
[19:53:00] ** Juski applauds GreyFoxx **
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[19:54:00] GreyFoxx: next target is handling whatever is leaking memory. It's "slow" but enough to cause problems after a few days
[19:54:00] GreyFoxx: then better caching of previously processed events
[19:54:00] GreyFoxx: woo
[19:54:00] GreyFoxx: It's so much more enjoyable than "working"
[19:55:00] Beirdo: hehe
[19:55:00] Beirdo: working sucks
[19:57:00] Juski: laga: you around fella?
[19:57:00] laga: Juski: more or less
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[19:57:00] Juski: aha...
[19:57:00] Juski: wb Coume
[19:57:00] laga: Juski: sup?
[19:58:00] Juski: just wondering about something, but I can ask Coume about it
[19:58:00] laga: ok
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[20:02:00] Juski: ..or maybe not
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[20:03:00] Coume: rhhhhhhhhhhh
[20:03:00] Juski: broadband playing up?
[20:03:00] Juski: ahh no it's dialup
[20:03:00] Juski: (I think)
[20:04:00] laga: dialup sounds like a lot of fun
[20:04:00] Coume: nop It's NTL :) it's just the laptop having some weird reactions...
[20:04:00] laga: ok
[20:04:00] Juski: ah
[20:04:00] Coume: it freezes once in a while and I have no idea why!
[20:04:00] Juski: you yelled, Coume?
[20:05:00] Coume: yep was just to say that the forum is back, if not still wait few minutes for DNS propagation (30 mins or so)
[20:06:00] Juski: any ideas why it's been down?
[20:08:00] laga: Coume: argh, can't PM you, sorry
[20:08:00] Coume: I know but as we did last time :) so justin can join too
[20:09:00] laga: hehe
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[20:13:00] stuarta: alfa: find anything out about your video card?
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[20:32:00] Nichotin: what xine/vlc commands do you use to play dvd?
[20:32:00] Nichotin: my defaults are mplayer at the moment, but I really want dvd menus
[20:33:00] Nichotin: oh, and your xine command to play video files would be nice as well
[20:33:00] Juski: Nichotin: have a look on Jarod Wilson's guide
[20:33:00] Nichotin: ah, of course
[20:33:00] Nichotin: xine -pfhq --no-splash dvd://
[20:34:00] Nichotin: how handy
[20:34:00] Juski: and xine -pfhq --no-splash %s
[20:34:00] Juski: for videos
[20:34:00] Juski: ding
[20:34:00] Juski: and ding
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[20:55:00] praet: nice 1 Jus
[20:55:00] paulc37: Hey: Upgrading to a 2.6.14 kernel (from 2.6.11) on Debian unstable, my mythtv-backend is not starting on boot, but starts fine when I issue the command myself
[20:56:00] defII: Is there a way to add info in the machine status page, ie. monitor other discs besides recordings and live tv?
[20:56:00] paulc37: Part of the upgrade was switching to udev...I wonder if that is causing some trouble? If I move back to 2.6.11 on the machine everything works fine.
[20:56:00] stuarta: paulc37: Does mysql start before myth?
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[20:56:00] paulc37: yes, but just before it
[20:56:00] praet: paulc37: how are you starting the backend?
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[20:57:00] paulc37: the init scripts are : S20 mysql then S20mythtv-backend
[20:57:00] paulc37: it's in /etc/rc2.d/S20mythtv-backend start
[20:57:00] paulc37: but sql is right before it and I wonder maybe I'm getting ahead of sql
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[20:59:00] paulc37: I'm getting various DB errors reported in the mythtv backend log
[20:59:00] praet: paulc37: which errors?
[20:59:00] stuarta: paulc37: they effectively start at the same time. Rename S20mythtv-backend to S99mythtv-backend
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[20:59:00] paulc37: {will send in a sec] but note that everything works fine when I start it myself
[21:00:00] paulc37: error 1: QMYSQL3: Unable to execute query
[21:00:00] paulc37: Database error was:
[21:00:00] paulc37: Table './mythconverg/mythlog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired
[21:00:00] kormoc: would point to mysql not shutting down correctly
[21:00:00] praet: right
[21:00:00] stuarta: ahh. run mysqlcheck
[21:00:00] paulc37: ok
[21:00:00] paulc37: as root?
[21:00:00] stuarta: mysql's root
[21:01:00] Nichotin: the xine command is a part of the xine-lib package in gentoo, right?
[21:01:00] kormoc: xine-ut
[21:01:00] kormoc: erm
[21:01:00] kormoc: xine-ui
[21:01:00] Nichotin: ah
[21:01:00] Nichotin: weird, the xine man page is in xine-lib
[21:01:00] Nichotin: :/
[21:02:00] paulc37: I get one error on mysqlcheck: mythconverg.mythlog
[21:02:00] paulc37: error  : Table './mythconverg/mythlog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired
[21:02:00] paulc37: don't know how to repair
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[21:02:00] stuarta: mysqlcheck --help
[21:02:00] kormoc: paulc37, log in as mysql root
[21:02:00] paulc37: k
[21:03:00] kormoc: REPAIR TABLE mythconverg;
[21:03:00] kormoc: erm
[21:03:00] kormoc: REPAIR TABLE mythlog;
[21:03:00] kormoc: wrong copy and paste...
[21:03:00] kormoc: that's of course, assuming your in the mythconverg db
[21:03:00] Cardoe: gosh kormoc
[21:03:00] paulc37: yup
[21:04:00] kormoc: Cardoe, yeah... my typing is rocking up today!
[21:04:00] paulc37: ok..that fixed that error, thx
[21:05:00] paulc37: the other error looks like it's just due to the timing, I think
[21:05:00] paulc37: 2006-01–06 15:50:56.736 New DB connection, total: 1
[21:05:00] paulc37: 2006-01–06 15:50:56.823 Unable to connect to database!
[21:05:00] paulc37: 2006-01–06 15:50:56.852 Driver error was [1/1251]:
[21:05:00] paulc37: QMYSQL3: Unable to connect
[21:05:00] paulc37: Database error was:
[21:05:00] paulc37: Client does not support authentication protocol requested by server; consider upgrading MySQL client
[21:06:00] paulc37: ...
[21:06:00] kormoc: did you update mysql?
[21:06:00] paulc37: but note that I don't get this when I run the mythtv-backend script myself
[21:06:00] stuarta: paulc37: rename the start script like I suggested before.
[21:06:00] paulc37: right..you think that second error is just due to timing, and not a true config problem?
[21:07:00] paulc37: probably?
[21:07:00] stuarta: if it starts fine if you run the init script after the machine has booted then yes.
[21:07:00] dtm: 14:23 < dtm> hi all. i upgraded a Redhat9-like system (YDL 3.0) to linux 2.6 with hotplug support. trying to get a usb video device to load its firmware. the firmware is correctly extracted and placed into /usr/local/lib/firmware which is symlinked to from /lib/firmware and /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware. any other suggestions? i guess i'll try stracing but i dont think that works on kernel code ^_^
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[21:08:00] paulc37: stu: ok...I'm running udev too, and I think maybe that was screwing something up, but I guess not?
[21:08:00] kormoc: I'm using udev fine, as are a lot of other people
[21:08:00] paulc37: k, cool, thx
[21:08:00] paulc37: will try moving..have to get those init-rc commands..
[21:08:00] stuarta: I'm on deb testing and it works fine.
[21:08:00] paulc37: k
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[21:16:00] paulc37: stu: looks good so far, thx
[21:16:00] paulc37: u 2 kor
[21:19:00] defII: I dont have a single screensaver running and have disabled powersave functions what could possibly be turning my screen off?
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[21:20:00] paulc37: u have apm in kernel?
[21:20:00] defII: nope
[21:21:00] paulc37: what desktop?
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[21:22:00] defII: fluxbox
[21:22:00] defII: I might have lied
[21:23:00] defII: I had only power management built into the kernel not apm or apci
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[21:23:00] paulc37: that's probably it though
[21:23:00] paulc37: only thing I can think of
[21:23:00] defII: I,m gonna try that
[21:24:00] defII: goom looks so cool in mythmusic except when it turns off
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[21:56:00] Arkkis: hey, I know it's kinda odd to ask here, but what other similar software is out there than just mythtv?
[21:56:00] Arkkis: I'd like to see what's out there, even if just to see how great myth is ;)
[21:57:00] Juski: Arkkis: for linux or just in general?
[21:57:00] Arkkis: for linux
[21:57:00] Juski: er... freevo (deprecated AFAIK)
[21:57:00] Juski: and VDR... and erm.. that's it I think
[21:58:00] Arkkis: hmm, ok
[21:58:00] Arkkis: so, freevo is discontinued or?
[21:58:00] Juski: not developed for a long time I think
[21:58:00] Juski: nothing else comes close to mythtv in terms of features all under one roof
[21:59:00] Arkkis: I see.
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[21:59:00] Arkkis: I've been thinking about getting a real digi-telly card, but as I hear, my friends have been having problems with subtitles here in finland with mythtv
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[22:00:00] deadguppy: anyone know if there is an HD card that allows compeonent out/in ?
[22:00:00] deadguppy: for myth ?
[22:01:00] Juski: deadpuppy: none, on both counts
[22:01:00] deadguppy: hmm.
[22:01:00] Juski: at least nothing **affordable**
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[22:03:00] Juski: deadguppy: do you have any idea how much data uncompressed HDTV is? the PCI bus would be hard pressed to keep up
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[22:05:00] deadguppy: yeah i know the data rate is huge.
[22:05:00] deadguppy: just wondering.
[22:05:00] deadguppy: i like my HDTV.
[22:05:00] deadguppy: and im not sure if my i get it via RF here.
[22:05:00] Juski: the MPAA & co will see to it that a consumer level HD capture card never happens
[22:05:00] deadguppy: using adelphia's digital system.
[22:06:00] deadguppy: well i know somehow people are pulling HD off motorola HD boxes.
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[22:06:00] pure: hi
[22:06:00] pure: any idea what ive set up wrong with mythtv http://pastebin.com/494018
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[22:06:00] Juski: you can get a converter to SDI & grab it with a PCI SDI card though.. but it'll be expensive as hell
[22:06:00] GreyFoxx: deadguppy: Some do it via the firewise interface
[22:06:00] GreyFoxx: wire
[22:06:00] Juski: or just use firewire with a compatible box
[22:07:00] deadguppy: anyon know if the SA boxes can do the same ?
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[22:08:00] Juski: jus' motorola as far as I know
[22:08:00] GreyFoxx: pure, why are you launching mythtv directly and not mythfrontend ?
[22:08:00] GreyFoxx: And is mythbackend running at all ?
[22:08:00] GreyFoxx: and like it says you haven't configured your db info in mysql.txt
[22:08:00] pure: that was mythfrontend
[22:08:00] GreyFoxx: no, that was mythtv
[22:09:00] pure: ill try with mythbackend running
[22:09:00] GreyFoxx: "master@mainframe:~/.mythtv$ mythtv"
[22:09:00] GreyFoxx: The first thing you need to do is deal with the first message from myth, setup your mysql.txt
[22:09:00] GreyFoxx: I assume that means you have also not going through mythtv-setup
[22:09:00] GreyFoxx: gone
[22:09:00] pure: sorry mybad, was looking at my bash history not the pastebin then
[22:10:00] xris: GreyFoxx: doesn't it prompt you for that these days?
[22:10:00] GreyFoxx: xris: I think it does if mysql.txt doesn't exist. But if it's there and no password is set I think it will try anyway
[22:11:00] xris: ah, yes
[22:11:00] ** xris cranks up the Great Big Sea **
[22:11:00] GreyFoxx: I'd say, look at mysql.txt, followed by mythtv-setup, launch mythbackend , then mythfrontend :)
[22:13:00] pure: ok thanks :)
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[22:15:00] dtm: does mythtv exist for xbox, preferably integrated with xbmc?
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[22:16:00] Juski: dtm: yes, and no
[22:16:00] dtm: k
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[22:16:00] dtm: Juski: that's cool. i would imagine that the pvr deposits its output into an xbmc-capable area
[22:16:00] dtm: Juski: i must be blind but i haven't found a url for this
[22:16:00] Juski: dtm: there are scripts for XBMC to give it basic frontend functionality (watching recorded shows works really well but livetv kinda stinks)
[22:17:00] dtm: k
[22:17:00] Juski: or you could put linux on the xbox & use mythtv on that
[22:17:00] pure: ok wonderful that worked
[22:17:00] Juski: dtm: URL.. what.. like this? http://sourceforge.net/projects/xbmcmythtv/
[22:17:00] pure: but the output is very screwy..
[22:17:00] dtm: Juski: kthx
[22:17:00] JohnP789: Whew! My marathon nuvexport run just completed. 1103 minutes.
[22:17:00] dtm: Juski: that looks like a valid url to me!  ;)
[22:18:00] JohnP789: ...and that's using ffmpeg.
[22:18:00] kormoc: dtm, google is your friend
[22:18:00] ** Juski googled for xbmc and mythtv **
[22:18:00] dtm: kormoc: google it is!
[22:18:00] dtm: have you guys done Dolby Surround encoding on linux?
[22:19:00] dtm: i found a procedure to take a 5.1 source, unmux it into separate files per channel, and reencode/remux it into Dolby Surround. but nothing to do it in realtime.
[22:19:00] dtm: most tedious considering that i have a dolby pro logic amp.
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[22:21:00] Juski: dtm: alsa can do that
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[22:24:00] dtm: Juski: what? how?
[22:24:00] dtm: Juski: you can reencode dolby 5.1 into dolby surround in realtime/
[22:24:00] Juski: oh wait.. sorry.. no xine & mplayer & other players can do that
[22:24:00] Juski: they do up & downmixing
[22:24:00] Juski: in real time
[22:25:00] dtm: yeah. of differnet kinds of streams, not down to dolby surround
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[22:25:00] Juski: I think it can you know
[22:26:00] Juski: not a great deal of effort involved in phase shifting a signal 90 degrees each way in real time, after doing some simple maths on it
[22:27:00] roger55: does anyone have an epia m10000 board and can tell me how to get the cputemp out of it?
[22:28:00] Juski: roger55: I use one.. you can use erm.. whats that thing...
[22:28:00] Juski: lmsensors
[22:28:00] roger55: mbmon doesn't work here
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[22:29:00] roger55: Juski, how hot does yours get?
[22:29:00] Juski: 50 degrees, tops.. and that's with a fanless heatsink (zalman northbridge cooler)
[22:30:00] roger55: that's not with full load though, is it?
[22:30:00] Juski: full load? like what? never get full load, not even playing back divx files
[22:30:00] roger55: like compiling things
[22:31:00] Juski: never compiled on it.. had a go, but gave up.. was taking too long
[22:31:00] roger55: compile a kernel for example.
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[22:31:00] roger55: thanks, I'm giving lmsensors a try then.
[22:31:00] Juski: should be fine for that...
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[22:32:00] roger55: Juski, how did you attach the northbridge cooler to the cpu?
[22:33:00] Juski: er... with the fixings that come with it
[22:33:00] Juski: old cooler just comes off with a tiny bit of effort (& 2 spring clip things)
[22:34:00] roger55: ah I thought you would have to use those 2 spring things to attach the cooler
[22:34:00] kormoc: and a paperclip, screwdriver, hammer, nails, a case of tnt...
[22:34:00] Juski: surprisingly easy
[22:34:00] Juski: they should make it an option – those little fans are noisy as hell (25dBA)
[22:34:00] Juski: (relatively speaking)
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[22:36:00] dopez: im having trouble with svn and dvb recording that if i record two recordings on the same channel in a row, the second one does not record (mythbackend seems to tell me it does, but a mpeg file is never created) i can reproduce this 100% of the time, i have logs, can anyone point me in the right direction for getting this fixed ?
[22:36:00] Juski: dopez: dev mailing list
[22:37:00] dopez: Juski: thanks, i'll mail the info there
[22:38:00] Juski: dopez: search the list first though.. I think I've seen something posted about that already
[22:38:00] dopez: i've looked also, but didnt seem related, i'll search again before i mail though
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[22:51:00] laga: weird. imdb search in mythvideo doesn't work anymore. has anybody experienced this and/or knows of a fix?
[22:57:00] \Grooby\: hey laga, take it you finish building that box?
[22:59:00] laga: \Grooby\: i've been finishing that box for one year now. ;)
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[23:04:00] \Grooby\: hmmm
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[23:04:00] \Grooby\: who was it that I was talking to couple weeks ago that started building his box
[23:04:00] \Grooby\: <---- retarded
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[23:21:00] redline--: hay all
[23:21:00] redline--: any sound gurus in here?
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[23:24:00] Fredde87: I know it is silly to ask about hardware questions but I will do it anyway since I can only find simular cases but not exact situations... My father wants me to build a miniitx system for him with mythtv frontend and backend. He is in the UK so it will be a DVB-T card which if I understand correctly already receives the stream in mpeg2 and requires no hardware decoders / encoders? But how about when watching live tv, wouldnt a hardware
[23:26:00] Juski: Fredde87: EPIA boards do mpeg decoding onboard.. my M-1000 has like 15% CPU playing back a DVB-T recording
[23:26:00] kormoc: and yes, it's a mpeg2 stream from the card, so no extra encoder needed
[23:26:00] Fredde87: :)
[23:26:00] Fredde87: so you havent suffered from any performace issues? may I ask what hardware configuration youve got?
[23:31:00] kormoc: anything above a 800 mhz can decode mpeg-2 just fine, what type of proc were you thinking to get?
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[23:32:00] Fredde87: kormoc probebly a 1gz
[23:32:00] Fredde87: ghz
[23:32:00] Fredde87: since the price up to a 1ghz isnt too bad and just to be on the safe side
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[23:34:00] Fredde87: Juski hows the noise level on the M-1000? As there is no fanless versions of it as I understand it.
[23:34:00] Juski: Fredde87: a single DVB-T tuner (or even dual) on an EPIA should be ok.. but dont put it in too small a case
[23:34:00] Juski: Fredde87: 25dBA is too loud for my livingroom, so I took the HSF off & replaced it with a Zalman northbridge heatsink.. half hour job
[23:35:00] Fredde87: nice
[23:35:00] Juski: tuner cards can get warm
[23:35:00] Fredde87: I was planing on using a small case... Any perticuler reason to not use a small one?
[23:35:00] Juski: as can HDDs, especially big uns
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[23:36:00] fir3st0rm: hi
[23:36:00] fir3st0rm: how can i watch my recordings(profile mpeg4+mp3) without using mythfrontend?
[23:37:00] Juski: fir3st0rm: l337 nick
[23:37:00] fir3st0rm: i tried mplayer but it crashes when press foward
[23:37:00] Juski: :-}
[23:37:00] Juski: try VLC
[23:37:00] fir3st0rm: ok
[23:38:00] kormoc: fir3st0rm, or compile mplayer with the correct nuv patches (if you are using a software encoder card)
[23:38:00] fir3st0rm: i'm using a software encoder yes
[23:38:00] dopez: Juski: wouldnt the epia overheat with just the zalman heatsink if you have 'high' loads (like re-encoding something?)
[23:38:00] Fredde87: fir3st0rm I think you might need to do some transcoding on it, had the same thing with a artec usb tuner which wouldnt save the seeking part (cant remember the name) in the mpeg which ment neither vlc or mplayer could fastforward/rewind
[23:39:00] eiggirC: Has anyone ever seen a PVR-150 suddenly loose sound on some FTA channels, and to have all channel numbers located one below where they really are?
[23:39:00] fir3st0rm: but mythfrontend is able to seek correctly
[23:40:00] Juski: dopez: dunno.. it's just a frontend, so it never sees much load
[23:40:00] kormoc: fir3st0rm, http://mirror.tucdemonic.org/gentoo/rsync/med . . . mythtv.patch
[23:40:00] kormoc: fir3st0rm, with that patch, mplayer will play the nuv files correctly
[23:40:00] dopez: ah right, wouldnt try it on mine then, its front and backend and also workstation + fileserver :)
[23:41:00] Juski: try it.. but keep a close eye on the temp for a while
[23:41:00] kormoc: fir3st0rm, you may need a different version of the patch depending on what version of mplayer you are going to use
[23:41:00] Juski: you can also get away with putting a large (80mm or so) fan above the heatsink
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[23:41:00] fir3st0rm: i don't want to compile that :/
[23:42:00] Juski: argument being that an 80mm fan is quieter than a 40mm fan moving the same amount of air (or more)
[23:42:00] kormoc: fir3st0rm, then you will need to use nuvexport to transcode them into something else
[23:42:00] kormoc: or use vlc
[23:42:00] fir3st0rm: vlc has some problems :/
[23:42:00] kormoc: then you need to transcode
[23:42:00] fir3st0rm: vlc: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libavformat.so: undefined symbol: dc1394_create_handle
[23:42:00] kormoc: nuvexport is the simpliest way
[23:42:00] dopez: the 80mm fan i already have above it, and the standard fan is at half speed or so with a zalman fanmate :) (pretty much acceptable quite for this room)
[23:42:00] fir3st0rm: ok
[23:43:00] fir3st0rm: tnx
[23:44:00] fir3st0rm: n8
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[23:44:00] Fredde87: Juski ahh so your miniitx system is frontend only?
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[23:48:00] Juski: Fredde87: yeh, but only so I can have a silent box.. and I mean **silent**
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[23:57:00] Guyfromhe: heh
[23:57:00] Guyfromhe: damn new myth is nicer than old myth
[23:57:00] rjune: that's a good thing
[23:57:00] rjune: else you would talk about the good old days
[23:58:00] Guyfromhe: but the old days were bad
[23:58:00] Guyfromhe: and myth would crash every 5 minutes
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