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Monday, January 2nd, 2006, 00:01 UTC
[00:01:00] splat1 is now known as splAt1
[00:03:00] GreyFoxx: slow, lack of search options, I can't easily archive my own copy, the site must be available or I can't access it or any of it's history, I have to be online to read it, and I have no "notification" that something is added. I have to manually go check to see if any of my threads have been updated or new ones added
[00:03:00] GreyFoxx: basically it lacks all of the features of a mailing list
[00:05:00] GreyFoxx: "It's got pretty emoticons" is not something I consider a "must have" feature :)
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[00:05:00] thanatoast: Aren't there forums that do some of that stuff (notification at least)
[00:06:00] GreyFoxx: If you are gonna notify me, they why not just email me the content? And why not just let me reply via email as well ? :)
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[00:08:00] Juski: ahh yes but forums are easier to ignore ;-)
[00:08:00] GreyFoxx: heh filtering mail clients, and or the delete key work for me :)(
[00:09:00] GreyFoxx: well actually filter with procmail work for me :)
[00:09:00] Juski: is there an email filter for dumb mailing list questions?
[00:09:00] GreyFoxx: I bet there is
[00:09:00] GreyFoxx: hehe
[00:10:00] Juski: it's worse than junkmail sometimes, so now I just dip in & out
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[00:18:00] nido: hello
[00:18:00] nido: i
[00:19:00] Juski: hello nido
[00:19:00] nido: i'm having a problem with the mythtv setup, can anyone help me with it please? its regarding selecting a capture card
[00:20:00] Juski: nido: first things first.. have you got all the drivers etc loaded and have you seen the card work in Linux already?
[00:20:00] Juski: secondly, what card is it and describe the problem
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[00:21:00] nido: yups; i've got the device running using tvtime. drivers loaded. the problem is mythtvsetup lets me ``add'' a capture card, but after setting up it doesn't remember
[00:22:00] Juski: are you going all the way through to 'finish' in the menus?
[00:22:00] nido: more of a mythsetup gui problem
[00:22:00] Juski: nido: are you using SVN? I've seen that issue in a previous SVN version
[00:22:00] nido: nopes, hanging in the card capture setup. after i set it up i can only add a new capture card
[00:22:00] ** Juski feels like crap and is going to bed.. **
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[00:23:00] nido: svn version 1.2.3.
[00:25:00] nido: is there a way i can configure mythtv by terminal or so?
[00:29:00] xris: nido: nope
[00:32:00] tanq: technically you can..
[00:32:00] tanq: you would just have to know where to stuff the data in the database
[00:33:00] nido: do you happen to know how?
[00:34:00] nido: have any previous builds given these kind of problems
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[00:35:00] tanq: if you can find where the card data goes in the schema i would imagine you can just do a few insert statements on some tables
[00:35:00] tanq: to get you past that part
[00:37:00] nido: doesn't sound right to me to try that; i think i'll recompile it tomorrow
[00:37:00] nido: good night
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[00:38:00] qfx: Anyone know of a good how-to to get live-tv streaming from mythweb to a windows box?
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[00:50:00] bretula: Help: I've got MythTV up and running, but when I change channels I frequently get into a cycle of "buffer underrun" and "prebuffering pause" messages, with stuttering video. If I exit to the menus, then return to watching TV it works. Any ideas?
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[01:11:00] Kelerion: laga.. you about?
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[01:15:00] teevee_: i changed my mythbackend from 192.168.1.11 to 192.168.1.10, and i've reflected those changes in mythsetup, why won't it connect to the master backend server?
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[01:16:00] teevee: er no, now i'm getting timeouts and it returns to the main menu
[01:17:00] Kelerion: teevee: check in your ~/.mythtv folder for a file call mysql.txt – see what it says
[01:18:00] teevee: it says .10
[01:18:00] teevee: so it looks good
[01:18:00] Kelerion: and check: /usr/share/mythtv/mysql.txt or /usr/local/share/mythtv/mysql.txt
[01:18:00] teevee: i have neither of those
[01:19:00] teevee: so do i need to change the IP in mysql?
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[01:19:00] Kelerion: well.. you should.. because all settings are recorded again ip/hostnames in the db
[01:19:00] Kelerion: is frontend giving any message when you run it?
[01:20:00] teevee: i don't understand what that has to do with mysql.txt
[01:20:00] teevee: yes, hang on, i'll quote
[01:20:00] teevee: Connecting to backend server: 192.168.1.10:6543 (try 1 of 5), ReadStringList timeout (quick)., Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION:, Changing from None to None
[01:21:00] teevee: that's when i try to go from the main menu into "watch tv"
[01:21:00] teevee: do i need to tell mysql that it is now on .10 instead of .11?
[01:21:00] Kelerion: you upgraded your frontend while you were changing ip's?
[01:21:00] teevee: i didn't upgrade my frontend
[01:22:00] teevee: er wait, maybe i did, how can i check?
[01:22:00] Kelerion: you running svn?
[01:22:00] teevee: no what's that?
[01:22:00] teevee: like cvs?
[01:22:00] Kelerion: yes
[01:23:00] Kelerion: you running cvs?
[01:23:00] teevee: but no, i didn't upgrade anything
[01:23:00] teevee: no
[01:23:00] teevee: anyway, the problem isn't from upgrading
[01:23:00] teevee: because i didn't upgrade anything
[01:23:00] teevee: just changed IPs
[01:23:00] Kelerion: ok.. when you originally setup your seperate backend.. did you specify a specific ip to allow to mysql?
[01:23:00] teevee: i had someone help me to set it to allow 192.168.1.*
[01:24:00] Kelerion: sure it was .* and not .11?
[01:24:00] teevee: mysql allows connections from .*
[01:24:00] Kelerion: okies
[01:24:00] teevee: but maybe it is still listening on .11
[01:24:00] teevee: which isn't a valid interface right now
[01:25:00] Kelerion: best bet is to mysqldump the the db.. replace all occurances of .11 for .10 and reinsert the db
[01:25:00] teevee: sounds painful
[01:25:00] Kelerion: did you follow: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-23.html#ss23.15
[01:25:00] Kelerion: ?
[01:25:00] teevee: hey, it was working fine at least a month before i changed IP
[01:26:00] teevee: maybe i'll just try changing the IP back to 11
[01:26:00] Kelerion: might be easier
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[01:26:00] teevee: then use mythsetup to change it back to 11 as well
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[01:27:00] corpix64: hi, backend hsot != frontendhost, client side on mythfrontend: mythtv: could not connect to socket, mysql.txt is set up correctly
[01:28:00] corpix64: any ideas ?
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[01:30:00] corpix64: and this one on client side:
[01:30:00] corpix64: 2006-01–02 02:27:49.158 Connecting to backend server: 192.168.1.2:6543 (try 1 of 5)
[01:30:00] corpix64: 2006-01–02 02:28:09.160 ReadStringList timeout (quick).
[01:30:00] corpix64: 2006-01–02 02:28:09.161 Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION:
[01:30:00] Kelerion: same prob teevee is having
[01:32:00] corpix64: hmm, trying strace
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[01:34:00] thread: http://threadbox.net/log.txt is the output from mythbackend -v
[01:35:00] thread: when watching live tv, I get about one second of video, and it freezes.
[01:35:00] thread: and I have to kill x
[01:35:00] thread: any theories?
[01:36:00] corpix64: hmm, thats an excerpt when running strace: getsockname(10, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(0), sin_addr=inet_addr("0.0.0.0")}, [16]) = 0
[01:36:00] corpix64: getpeername(10, 0xbfde05c0, [128]) = -1 ENOTCONN (Transport endpoint is not connected)
[01:36:00] corpix64: maybe therefore the err msg: "mythtv: could not connect to socket"
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[01:44:00] FunkyELF: please, could someone help me within 15 minutes I need to record a show for my girlfriend
[01:44:00] FunkyELF: I rebooted my machine and all channels are saying no data under myth web
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[01:49:00] xris: FunkyELF: run mythfilldatabase
[01:56:00] eiggirC: Is it possible to save a still frame to a file, while pausing a recording or live TV ?
[01:56:00] eiggirC: I can't see it in the keys list anywhere
[01:59:00] Kamy: Hi, I've got a tv out issue, anybody got time to help? I'm pretty sure it's something to do with xf86config-4
[02:01:00] eiggirC: kamy: sure? check for xorg.conf too
[02:02:00] eiggirC: I spent ages working on XF86config-4 only to find that xorg.conf was the right place
[02:02:00] xris: eiggirC: locate keys.txt
[02:02:00] xris: other than that, I don't know
[02:03:00] Kamy: I have mythtv running on Knoppmyth R5A26, installed and running okay as long as it's hooked to a monitor
[02:04:00] Kamy: when I connect to a tv, I can see it boot, then just before the nvidia screen comes up, the tv goes blue screen while the monitor displays the frontend
[02:05:00] eiggirC: xris: thanks dude – doesn't look like its possible
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[02:06:00] xris: eiggirC: should submit a feature request.. would be handy for some people, I'm sure
[02:06:00] corpix64: on a backend !=frontend box i get this: http://pastebin.ca/34111
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[02:08:00] Kamy: eiggirC: here is a thread on screenshots, I don't know how it turnes out though :) http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2003-May/003632.html
[02:09:00] sportman: ok guys
[02:09:00] sportman: how do i see if my mythtv backend is running
[02:09:00] sportman: or how do i configure my backend to work with my cable box and firewire?
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[02:10:00] Chuggachu: sportman: from a console — ps -aucx | grep mythbackend
[02:10:00] thread: sportman: ps ax|grep mythba
[02:13:00] berbs: Hi! Does anybody know if there is a way to resume dvd playback with mythdvd?
[02:13:00] thread: http://threadbox.net/log.txt is the output from mythbackend -v
[02:13:00] thread: when watching live tv, I get about one second of video, and it freezes.
[02:13:00] thread: and I have to kill x
[02:13:00] thread: any theories?
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[02:14:00] sportman: Chuggachu sportman: from a console — ps -aucx | grep mythbackend
[02:14:00] sportman: thread sportman: ps ax|grep mythba
[02:16:00] sportmankid: 9166 pts/0 S+ 0:00 grep mythbackend
[02:16:00] sportmankid: does that mean it is working
[02:16:00] thread: no, it's not
[02:16:00] thread: that's you trying to grep for it
[02:16:00] sportmankid: ah
[02:16:00] sportmankid: so guess not
[02:17:00] Chuggachu: if thats all that showed up then no
[02:17:00] sportman: ok
[02:17:00] stickyicky: im sure this must get asked all the time.. but is there any clue when the next version of mythtv is coming out?
[02:18:00] sportman: hmm ill check in a little
[02:19:00] Kamy: Does anybody know where I can find an example of xf86config-4 that is set up for a tv AND a monitor? to compare to mine?
[02:19:00] Fitzsimmons: what's the -4?
[02:19:00] Kelerion: version 4 of xf86
[02:20:00] corpix64: Kamy: nvidia ?
[02:20:00] Kamy: yes
[02:20:00] corpix64: sec
[02:20:00] corpix64: (but its an xorg.conf)
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[02:21:00] corpix64: http://pastebin.com/486677
[02:22:00] Kamy: cool, thanx, but everything I've seen so far points to setting up xf86config though, brb
[02:23:00] corpix64: line 275–282
[02:23:00] corpix64: should be enough
[02:23:00] berbs: does anybody use the job feature in mythtv? I am trying to figure out what to use it for?
[02:23:00] Fitzsimmons: you know, that's an excellent question
[02:24:00] Fitzsimmons: a wild guess, but I think you can specify command strings there
[02:25:00] Kelerion: to do things like transcoding
[02:25:00] berbs: I suppose so, I was wondering if anybody had some good use for it? One thing that I would like to do for instance is transcode recordings at night
[02:25:00] berbs: great minds think alike ;-)
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[02:27:00] thread: well hey Fitzsimmons :)
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[02:29:00] thread: I'm trying to figure out why I only get about a second of video from my card before it freezes up forcing me to kill x (or at least mythtv)
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[02:32:00] Kamy: Corpix64: I'm guessing I need to change "TVStandard" "PAL-B" to "TVStandard" "NTSC-M" for use in N.America?
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[02:33:00] corpix64: yes
[02:34:00] Kamy: ok, I'll paste that section and edit the the tvstandard and reboot, see what happens :)
[02:35:00] tanq: i'm trying to figure out why when i switch between media i.e. music, videos and tv my sound resets to a volume I can't hear
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[02:36:00] corpix64: reboot ?
[02:36:00] corpix64: that not win
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[02:39:00] Kamy: well, I'm new to linux, what do you call a reboot then?
[02:40:00] corpix64: as root
[02:40:00] corpix64: init 3
[02:40:00] corpix64: init 5
[02:40:00] Cardoe: I called it a reboot
[02:40:00] Kamy: haha
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[02:41:00] Kamy: well, right now the monitor displays fine, but the tv only displays the top two left buttons from the frontend REALLY BIG
[02:41:00] Kamy: like a resolution issue
[02:41:00] Cardoe: probably
[02:41:00] Cardoe: damnit
[02:42:00] Cardoe: I forgot to buy an S-video cable at work
[02:42:00] Kamy: but thats more than it displayed before, so were moving forward !
[02:42:00] eiggirC: Kamy: thanks
[02:42:00] eiggirC: Kamy: thats about screen shots of the OSD
[02:42:00] eiggirC: I want a still from a recording
[02:42:00] thread: Cardoe: !
[02:42:00] thread: how does it go
[02:44:00] Kamy: eiggirC: I saw some folks talking about screen shots from video, I guess the thread didn't get hijacked :)
[02:44:00] Cardoe: yo thread
[02:44:00] Cardoe: what's happening
[02:44:00] Cardoe: going alright
[02:44:00] Beirdo: windows sucks all kinds of ass
[02:44:00] thread: I'm pulling my hair out at mythtv tonight
[02:45:00] thread: trying to set up a box
[02:45:00] sportmankid: so someone want to help me with ati graphics in ubuntu
[02:45:00] thread: but it just freezes like 1 second into watching live tv
[02:45:00] sportmankid: i tried installing the drivers
[02:45:00] thread: http://threadbox.net/log.txt
[02:45:00] sportmankid: and my system got screwed up
[02:45:00] sportmankid: and now i cant even play tux racer without the graphics shitting itself
[02:45:00] Beirdo: heh, good luck
[02:45:00] sportman: no
[02:46:00] sportman: not luck
[02:46:00] sportman: :(
[02:47:00] eiggirC: I will look at xwd and friends, but that means running the front end in a window, or binding the dump command somehow, so that myth doesn't pick it up.
[02:47:00] Beirdo: I don't bother trying to do ANYTHING on my myth box other than myth
[02:47:00] GreyFoxx: eiggirC: What are you trying to do ?
[02:49:00] Cardoe: thread: looking
[02:52:00] Kelerion: "Skipping Job – not allowed to run on this backend" .. I've made sure "Run jobs on only original host" isn't set.. this is the first time I've played with User Jobs so it's quite likely I've missed something obvious.. any ideas?
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[02:55:00] Cardoe: thread: nfc
[02:55:00] Cardoe: thread: is it configured correct?
[02:55:00] eiggirC: GreyFoxx: save a still image (jpeg or something) from a recording.
[02:55:00] thread: Cardoe: i dunno... is to my knowledge...
[02:56:00] thread: which settings might I triple-check?
[02:56:00] GreyFoxx: eiggirC: Launch mythfrontend with the environment variable NO_XV set to 1, then do a "import -window root file.jpg"
[02:56:00] eiggirC: GreyFoxx: thanks dude!
[02:56:00] GreyFoxx: You might want to do the import from another screen/ssh session and make sure you set DISPLAY=:0 first
[02:56:00] Cardoe: thread: no idea
[02:57:00] Nichotin: what channel freq table to use for norway?
[02:58:00] thread: yeah... it looks great for like .7 sec
[02:58:00] Nichotin: europe west only gives static :/
[02:58:00] thread: then it freezes solid and I have to kill x
[02:58:00] thread: there's no compelling error message on the backend either
[02:59:00] thread: if I cat /dev/v4l/video0 > file.mpeg, it just sits there like it's saving the video, but the file only turns out to be <1sec long
[02:59:00] thread: I wonder if I should try some different ivtv drivers.....
[03:00:00] GreyFoxx: well if the cat error has the same problem it's likely the driver
[03:00:00] GreyFoxx: check your dmesg output
[03:00:00] GreyFoxx: see if anything obviously wrong is being logged
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[03:01:00] thread: GreyFoxx: nah, nothing suspect in there
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[03:02:00] GreyFoxx: looks like you might have to experiment with ivtv versions
[03:02:00] GreyFoxx: or different firmwares
[03:02:00] Kelerion: "not allowed to run on this backend" doesn't seem to have been reported by anyone else.. I can't be the only one.. lol
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[03:03:00] eiggirC: thread: I'd guess possibly the firmware loaded is incorrect
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[03:05:00] thread: eiggirC: I'm upgrading from ivtv 0.4.0 to 0.4.1
[03:05:00] thread: ... I'll try reinstalling the firmware as well
[03:06:00] eiggirC: thread: thats truely weird then. You must be special :)
[03:07:00] |Slurpee|: someone want to help me setup mythtv for debian ?
[03:07:00] |Slurpee|: i mainly need help setting up my hardware
[03:07:00] Nichotin: I live in Norway, and have tried knoppmyth with a pvr-350. I set channel freq table to europe west, and I have configured the card and all that, but still only get static
[03:07:00] Nichotin: any way to cycle the frequencies manually, to see if I can get a signal?
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[03:16:00] dasOp: I used the xawtv tool to scan for channels
[03:16:00] dasOp: if you've xawtv installed, scan-<tab>-<tab> should show it
[03:16:00] dasOp: dont remember the name
[03:16:00] Nichotin: ah. thanks
[03:17:00] Nichotin: that way I will know if it is working at all
[03:17:00] dasOp: setting the channel freq table doesnt automagically add your channels
[03:17:00] Nichotin: no
[03:17:00] Nichotin: but I was wondering if I had the correct one
[03:17:00] dasOp: think you do
[03:17:00] dasOp: but try it
[03:18:00] dasOp: getting static is usually a sign you're talking to the card anyways :)
[03:18:00] Nichotin: I have added my pvr-350, and set the input sources and stuff. then I went into console and said yes to the channels I wanted
[03:18:00] Nichotin: then it fetched a whole lot of stuff
[03:18:00] dasOp: yeah
[03:18:00] dasOp: but it still doesnt know the freqid
[03:18:00] Nichotin: I think maybe it is trying the wrong frequencies
[03:18:00] dasOp: thats for you to set
[03:18:00] Nichotin: aha
[03:18:00] dasOp: a frequency table is a mapping between a freqid and a frequency
[03:18:00] berbs: anybody to share some mythtv job examples? I asked earlier but no answer so far...
[03:19:00] Nichotin: I tried to add a channel, and set frequency id to 175.24
[03:19:00] Nichotin: because that is the mhz of a .no channel
[03:19:00] Nichotin: but maybe I am totally off with that one
[03:19:00] Nichotin: aha
[03:19:00] dasOp: thats a frequency, not a freqid
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[03:19:00] dasOp: altho that should work as well
[03:19:00] Nichotin: how can I get the correct freqid for my ~20 channels?
[03:19:00] dasOp: google can probably help
[03:20:00] dasOp: but xawtv's scanning tool works
[03:20:00] dasOp: if knoppmyth doesnt come with xawtv, you want to do: apt-get update; apt-get install xawtv
[03:20:00] dasOp: as root
[03:21:00] Nichotin: there is a tool that is named scantv
[03:21:00] Nichotin: that first asks about pal, then channel freq table
[03:21:00] dasOp: yeah, thats it
[03:21:00] dasOp: there's a switch to output to file
[03:22:00] dasOp: if you put that output in ~/.xawtv, you get a channel list in xawtv
[03:22:00] dasOp: I wouldnt wager on the naming being correct at first
[03:22:00] dasOp: but atleast you get the freqid's
[03:23:00] Nichotin: invalid value for input: television
[03:23:00] Nichotin: valid choices for "input": "Composite 0", "Composite 1", "Composite 2", "Composite 3", "Tuner 0", "Composite 4", "S-Video 0", "S-Video 1", "S-Video 2", "S-Video 3"
[03:23:00] thread: where do I get the firmware for ivtv 0.4.1+ ? (like v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw)
[03:23:00] Nichotin: that is the first error that pops up when I run it
[03:23:00] dasOp: hmz
[03:23:00] dasOp: prolly a switch to set the actual device that's being used
[03:23:00] dasOp: same as you set in mythtv-setup
[03:23:00] Nichotin: it uses video0 as default
[03:24:00] dasOp: well the input should probably be "Tuner 0"
[03:24:00] Nichotin: 500 mhz still not found anything
[03:24:00] Nichotin: I see no way to set input with scantv
[03:26:00] Nichotin: found no stations
[03:26:00] dasOp: well you can also use v4lctl to set a frequency and then start xawtv to see if you're getting anything
[03:28:00] Nichotin: I searched the manpage, for that, and only found a way to set the freq table
[03:28:00] Nichotin: not the frequency
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[03:30:00] dasOp: try using v4lctl to set the input to Tuner 0 and then run scantv again
[03:31:00] dasOp: seems roundabout but you're making sure that you can actually recieve a channel, prettitying comes later :)
[03:32:00] Nichotin: still the same error in scantv
[03:32:00] Nichotin: does that have a config file? I could not find "television" anywhere in /etc
[03:32:00] Nichotin: E5 (175.25 MHz): no station
[03:32:00] Nichotin: would E5 be the frequency id?
[03:32:00] dasOp: most of europe has something at E5
[03:32:00] dasOp: yup
[03:34:00] dasOp: almost sounds like cabling
[03:34:00] Nichotin: the cable setup is pretty simple. wall outlet – cable – pvr-350
[03:34:00] Nichotin: the cable and wall outlet works
[03:35:00] eiggirC: GreyFoxx: your suggestion worked fine thanks. It's still something that would be nice as a single keypress from the frontend
[03:35:00] eiggirC: GreyFoxx: the only problem is the blue box OSD field is in the dump, and it says "Pause" in the top lef
[03:35:00] eiggirC: I can fiddle that out though
[03:36:00] thread: anybody? where do I get these firmware files? v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw et al
[03:36:00] dasOp: oh wait.. 350
[03:36:00] dasOp: that uses ivtv right?
[03:37:00] Nichotin: yes
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[03:37:00] Kelerion: I downloaded the setup files from happauge site and used the ivtvfwextract tool
[03:37:00] Delemas: yep take a look at the wifi re: firmware...
[03:38:00] Delemas: s/wifi/wiki/
[03:38:00] thread: Kelerion: ah...
[03:38:00] Delemas: Anyone else running 2.6.15-rc7 w/ myth?/
[03:38:00] Kelerion: that was for a 250.. but same idea
[03:40:00] thread: ident
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[03:43:00] Nichotin: dasOp: after fiddling a bit with the freqids and such, I get a black screen now
[03:43:00] Nichotin: not static
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[03:43:00] titanium_platypu: I have downloaded "nuvexport" to export my Myth recordings to video formats, but when I run it, every option is disabled. How to enable them?
[03:43:00] titanium_platypu: I am primarily interested in VCD and DVD.
[03:43:00] dasOp: http://members.home.nl/peter.oomen/KNOPPMYTH_Configuration.htm
[03:43:00] dasOp: has the table
[03:44:00] dasOp: the 350, is it dvb or hw-mpg?
[03:44:00] jalex: google came up short – is this error common for the pchdtv hd3000 card (fc4 kernel 2.6.14–1.1653_FC4) "cx88[0]: irq pci [0x8000] ipb_dma_err*"  ???
[03:44:00] Nichotin: hw-mpg
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[03:45:00] dasOp: then xawtv wont work methinks, think it expects a raw YUV stream
[03:45:00] dasOp: but mplayer certainly should
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[03:46:00] Kel-kippin: g'night all :)
[03:48:00] Kamy: How come I can't rename this file? XF86Config-4.nvidia-tvout.sample
[03:48:00] Kamy: yea, I'm a nooob
[03:49:00] thread: it still tells me "unable to open firmware v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw"
[03:49:00] thread: the files are in /lib/modules
[03:49:00] thread: AND I have hotplug in my kernel
[03:49:00] Nichotin: dasOp: ok, progress: I one of the test channels to S18
[03:49:00] Nichotin: then I get the idle screen of sweedish tv2
[03:50:00] Nichotin: (which according to my provider, should have been MTV
[03:50:00] Kamy: it tells me this (Missing operator before nvidia?)
[03:52:00] sportmankid: hey guys
[03:53:00] sportmankid: ok
[03:53:00] sportmankid: i want to configure mythbackend
[03:53:00] sportmankid: so it will work with my firewire
[03:53:00] sportmankid: cable box
[03:53:00] sportmankid: so im hookingup my firewire now
[03:53:00] sportmankid: to the cable box
[03:53:00] sportmankid: then i need to know the command to configure myth backend
[03:56:00] sportmankid: any ideas?
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[03:58:00] dasOp: Nichotin: Nichotin: its a start :)
[03:58:00] dasOp: "scantv in Debian cannot use input 'Tuner 0', build scantv/xawtv from source, using version 4.x
[03:58:00] dasOp: thats a quote from a page I saw
[03:58:00] dasOp: http://www.stolk.org/debian/pvr350.html
[03:58:00] dasOp: (note that knoppmyth is based on debian)
[03:59:00] rjune: i thought knoppmyth was based on knoppix, which was in turn based on debian
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[03:59:00] sportmakid: ehy
[03:59:00] sportmakid: ok
[03:59:00] sportmakid: so how do i set this up?
[04:00:00] sphing: read the docs
[04:00:00] Nichotin: rjune: linux distro galore ;)
[04:00:00] sportmakid: i read most of it
[04:00:00] rjune: indeed
[04:00:00] sportmakid: i got everything installed
[04:00:00] sphing: sportmakid: so whats your question
[04:00:00] Nichotin: dasOp: ah. stupid me not checking that
[04:00:00] dasOp: rjune: something like it
[04:00:00] sportmakid: just what is that one command to configure mythbackend
[04:00:00] sphing: mythtv-setup
[04:00:00] rjune: mythsetup maybe? I would have to readh the howto
[04:00:00] dasOp: rjune: although you cant really run knoppmyth from the cd
[04:00:00] sportmakid: and if i have my cablebox connected to my computer through firewire
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[04:01:00] sportmakid: can i do that fine?
[04:01:00] rjune: true, knoppmyth is odd
[04:01:00] dasOp: yeah, I decided to scrap it
[04:01:00] dasOp: on a straight deb install I atleast know whats installed and how
[04:01:00] sphing: sportmakid: i think... i dont have that setup so im not sure
[04:01:00] sportmakid: ok
[04:01:00] dasOp: since I need to debug the backend, it hangs and then crashes when I switch channels
[04:02:00] sportmakid: yea see there wasnt much documentation on that setup
[04:02:00] Nichotin: when I quit mythtv-setup by using the esc key, do I have to kill and start mythtv backend again for changes to appear?
[04:02:00] sportmakid: thats why i was asking
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[04:04:00] kahuna_: Hi. I have a crapload of stuff in my recordings directory that I haven't recorded. also, when I look at my "recorded" table in my mysql DB there is a bunch of livetv programs that I watched but I didn't actually record any of them.
[04:04:00] kahuna_: Does myth make a recording for live TV even?
[04:05:00] titanium_platypu: bbiaf
[04:05:00] Nichotin:
[04:05:00] Nichotin: even with the same channel freqid
[04:06:00] Nichotin: weird shit
[04:06:00] Nichotin: now I know it is working somehow, but it does not seem to respond when I change freqid for a channel
[04:06:00] sportmakid: crap i give up for now
[04:06:00] sportmakid: im reinstalling
[04:07:00] hpAuto: I've noticed those livetv recordings to
[04:07:00] hpAuto: shouldn't they like auto delete?
[04:07:00] kahuna_: Hrmm.. and they're mpegs, not .nuv
[04:08:00] kahuna_: are you usign dvb?
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[04:15:00] GreyFoxx: eiggirC: Just hit escape after you press pause. The OSD will disappear but you will remain paused
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[04:16:00] Nichotin: heh, I have added like four channels, and when I press watch tv, then press 1 to see channel one, it jumps to channel two
[04:17:00] Nichotin: chan 3 and 4 also jumps to 2
[04:17:00] Nichotin: :/
[04:17:00] Nichotin: fresh channel list and all
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[04:22:00] media: meh, im getting fed up with this
[04:22:00] media: there is like no firewire documentation
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[04:24:00] iggy: Nichotin: try running mythfrontend from a terminal to see if you get any helpful errors, also check the mythbackend logs
[04:24:00] kahuna_: Hmm... In SVN live RV is recorded by default and set to expire within 7 days or to save space by default
[04:26:00] GreyFoxx: Well, well it was always recorded, the buffer just use to go away when you exited livetv
[04:26:00] kahuna_: Yes.
[04:26:00] GreyFoxx: But is it 7 days as default? For some reason I thought it was 1
[04:26:00] kahuna_: Yup. I did change it to 1 however.
[04:27:00] thread: ok, so the cat /dev/v4l/video0 trick gives me a bunch of video in the outputted file
[04:27:00] GreyFoxx: Weird, I've watched mine expire in a day but I've never set it to 1 specifically
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[04:27:00] thread: but when I try to watch live video in mythfrontend, it freezes in like less than a second
[04:28:00] thread: I can kill x... but at least mythtv seems to freeze solid
[04:28:00] kahuna_: Maybe it was changed? I have SNV from yesterday. Upgraded from 0.18.1
[04:28:00] GreyFoxx: Where was the setting ?
[04:29:00] shriver: Anyone ever hear of a problem with MythDVD settings not appearing in the MythTV settings section?
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[04:30:00] Nichotin: 2006-01–02 05:29:37.150 Can't enable VBI recording
[04:30:00] Nichotin: vbi: Invalid argument
[04:30:00] Nichotin: iggy: that seems to be it
[04:30:00] kahuna_: In Setup->Tv Settings->General
[04:30:00] kahuna_: Nichotin: PVR-150 or PVR-500?
[04:30:00] Nichotin: pvr-350
[04:31:00] kahuna_: ah, ok.
[04:31:00] GreyFoxx: Mine is set to 1... maybe I did set it when Captain_Murdoch made it optional and just forgot :)
[04:31:00] Nichotin: any clue on what might be wrong?
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[04:32:00] kahuna_: My wife seems to like svn more than 0.18.1
[04:32:00] kahuna_: more stable
[04:32:00] shriver: In Settings, most places say there should be a section called 'Media Settings' but there is none.
[04:33:00] shriver: er, 'Setup'
[04:33:00] kahuna_: I think it depends on the theme you're using/
[04:34:00] GreyFoxx: I use the classic menu layout so I don't have a Media Settings section
[04:34:00] shriver: I'll add some themes and then try it out-- any suggestions?
[04:35:00] kahuna_: Try 'em all
[04:35:00] kahuna_: Can't hurt anything
[04:35:00] shriver: thanks for the tip
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[04:36:00] Nichotin: gaah. I give this shit up :/
[04:37:00] kahuna_: If you're anything like me you'll be back at it tomorrow :)
[04:37:00] kahuna_: I keep telling myself that this is all more trouble than it's worth.
[04:38:00] xris: kahuna_: more stable except for broken livetv at the moment
[04:39:00] kahuna_: livetv works ok for me, at least svn from a few days ago :)
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[04:40:00] GreyFoxx: same here as of last night
[04:40:00] GreyFoxx: but that was just a quick test after updating myth
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[04:41:00] Kamy: Hi again
[04:42:00] xris: kahuna_: cool, then. I don't use livetv, so it's no biggie for me
[04:42:00] Kamy: I just changed the slot my capture card lived in, now I lost my watch tv function, easy to get back? Or should I just move it back to the slot where it was before
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[04:45:00] Kamy: doh!
[04:45:00] Kamy: forgot to replace the cable :)
[04:46:00] media: anyone know how to do firewire?
[04:46:00] media: in myth tv
[04:46:00] Igg-man: Where does one add the ivtv kernel module to startup in Fedora Core 4?
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[04:46:00] Kamy: I shouldn't work on this thing when I'm tired.... I'm going to bed
[04:46:00] Kamy: g'nite
[04:46:00] Igg-man: media: I had a friend that tried to get it working, but didn't have much luck
[04:46:00] media: damn
[04:46:00] media: i forget who mentioned it
[04:47:00] media: someone in here said it shouldddddddddddddddddddnt be hard
[04:47:00] dagar: are all the atrpms archived?
[04:47:00] media: but i got the cable
[04:47:00] media: and its not easy
[04:47:00] dagar: Im looking for an older version of the ivtv driver rpm for fedora core 4
[04:47:00] Beirdo: I hate Windows, I hate Windows, I fuckin HATE WINDOWS!
[04:47:00] Kamy: media, I think I saw a thread about it on mysettopbox
[04:48:00] dtm: Kamy: nite
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[04:48:00] dagar: is anyone using a pvr 150 with ivtv .4.1?
[04:49:00] xris: Beirdo: see me closing out nuvexport tickets? heh
[04:49:00] media: ok
[04:49:00] media: ill look there
[04:49:00] media: im in ubuntu now
[04:49:00] Beirdo: hehe
[04:49:00] media: shou1d i use the ubuntu myth packages
[04:49:00] media: or something else
[04:49:00] Kamy: http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t= . . . rewire+setup
[04:49:00] media: cause im completely reinstalling mythtv
[04:49:00] Beirdo: nah, been too busy fighting with my Win2k laptop to make it f'ing work again
[04:49:00] media: cause the database was set up wrong
[04:49:00] Beirdo: without reinstalling
[04:49:00] Beirdo: as I want to author some DVDs
[04:49:00] Kamy: mysettopbox is a sight based on Knoppmyth
[04:50:00] xris: Beirdo: well, have been missing the email sender script (forgot to replace it after my last upgrade when ubuntu decided to completely wipe my drive for me)
[04:50:00] media: and knoppmyth broke my mbr
[04:50:00] media: so i had to go with debia
[04:50:00] Beirdo: and I need disk space and the Winblows Installer won't let me uninstall
[04:50:00] media: *debian
[04:50:00] Beirdo: hehe
[04:50:00] Beirdo: computers just rule
[04:50:00] Beirdo: flaming pieces of crap :)
[04:51:00] Beirdo: so I just re-installed IE6SP1
[04:51:00] Beirdo: see if that unwedges it a bit
[04:52:00] xris: hmm, wonder why my post commit isn't working
[04:52:00] Beirdo: come ON, IE, start up, you beotch
[04:52:00] Beirdo: can't do windows updates as IE won't work
[04:52:00] Beirdo: can't fix the Windows Installer
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[04:54:00] Beirdo: feel like playing smashy smashy
[04:54:00] Beirdo: but for now, I'll just bork the system a bit by blowing away the software manually
[04:54:00] Beirdo: screw it
[04:54:00] Beirdo: I just wanna make my DVDs, dammit!
[04:54:00] thread: anyone have any idea why the cat /dev/v4l/video0 gives me a nice long mpeg file, but watching live tv in myth only gets me < 1 second before it freezes and I have to kill it?
[04:55:00] thread: this is the ivtv 0.4.1 on my PVR-250
[04:55:00] GreyFoxx: Man, I keep coming accross bits of the DVB/EIT code that doesn't make use of it's own code
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[04:57:00] GreyFoxx: The more I go through this the more it feels like I'm walking on a creeky old unmaintained rope bridge that could snap at any moment
[04:58:00] Igg-man: I can't get sound from my pvr-500, but video seems to work fine
[04:58:00] ** Beirdo swings a large stinky trout at Bill Gates **
[04:58:00] Igg-man: I noticed that ivtvctl won't set mute=0
[04:58:00] Beirdo: msiexec.exe buggers
[04:59:00] Beirdo: wonderful
[04:59:00] Beirdo: iexplore.exe buggers
[04:59:00] Beirdo: sigh
[04:59:00] Beirdo: wonder if downloading and reapplying SP4 would help?
[05:00:00] sphing: lol
[05:00:00] Beirdo: can't get much friggin worse
[05:02:00] Beirdo: downloading...
[05:02:00] Beirdo: this machine needs a serious boot to the nuts
[05:03:00] dagar: thread: was your pvr-250 working fine with the .3 series of ivtv?
[05:04:00] thread: dagar: it was working in another machine on an earlier version of ivtv, yeah
[05:05:00] thread: don't recall which version exactly
[05:05:00] ** xris really wishes that people would submit better bug reports **
[05:06:00] Fitzsimmons: "The thing on the left doesn't work when I do the other thing involving TV"
[05:06:00] dagar: since I upgraded to ivtv .4.1 I've had nothing but choppy video and audio and mythbackend can't generate thumbnails
[05:06:00] dagar: I cna't find the problem
[05:06:00] thread: which version should I try?
[05:06:00] dagar: I'm probably going back to .3.8 for now, just because I don't have the time
[05:06:00] thread: is ivtv necessarily to blame if I can get smooth video from cat'ing /dev/v4l/video0
[05:07:00] thread: ?
[05:07:00] dagar: sounds like mythtv problem
[05:07:00] Fitzsimmons: you can cat /dev/v4l/video0?
[05:07:00] dagar: oh maybe you have the wrong video input selected
[05:07:00] dagar: take a look at mythtv-setup, I think the input is just called tuner now instead of tuner 0
[05:07:00] dagar: I had thatp problem as well
[05:07:00] xris: Beirdo: closing out a ton of nuvexport tickets in your name. no idea how they got assigned to you
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[05:09:00] thread: dagar: I only have a tuner 0
[05:09:00] Beirdo: heh
[05:09:00] dagar: then thats obviously not the problem, what does the mythbackend log say
[05:09:00] Beirdo: well, steal all ya want :)
[05:10:00] Beirdo: trying installing SP4 again...
[05:10:00] Beirdo: here goes nothing
[05:10:00] thread: http://threadbox.net/log.txt
[05:10:00] thread: nothing interesting ^^
[05:10:00] Beirdo: oh yay
[05:10:00] Beirdo: the SP4 Setup Wizard's borked too
[05:10:00] Beirdo: fuck YOU windows
[05:10:00] Beirdo: wonder which core DLL got eaten
[05:11:00] Delemas: I'm having similar problems. mythtv displays a second of video and audio then hangs. ivtv-tune and then catting /dev/video0 > test.mpg works flawlessly...
[05:11:00] kahuna_: lol
[05:11:00] Beirdo: gonna try in safe mode
[05:11:00] Beirdo: have I mentioned how much Windows pisses me off?
[05:11:00] Beirdo: hehe
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[05:12:00] Hoxzer: honestly Windows sucks
[05:12:00] Beirdo: if only TMPGEnc DVD Author worked in Linux :)
[05:13:00] Hoxzer: :D only reason they are making games for it is because of it is so popular
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[05:13:00] Hoxzer: and only reason why youngsters are you using is that you can't play all the games with linux
[05:14:00] Hoxzer: so can't they just start making games for linux too?
[05:14:00] Beirdo: I'm gonna smash this bugger soon
[05:14:00] Beirdo: smashy smashy!
[05:14:00] Delemas: hehehe
[05:14:00] dagar: thread: hmm, your right
[05:15:00] dagar: very strange
[05:15:00] thread: dagar: yeah... I'm very confused at this point
[05:15:00] thread: tried going from ivtv 0.4.0 to 0.4.1
[05:15:00] dagar: when I cat from the video device its flawless as well
[05:15:00] thread: but reading stragith from the device seems to work fine, so I'm suspecting it's not the driver
[05:15:00] dagar: you've proven its working fine
[05:15:00] dagar: its got to be with myth
[05:15:00] thread: which part?
[05:16:00] dagar: hehe now thats the question isn't it
[05:16:00] thread: yes... yes it is :)
[05:16:00] dagar: christ explorer is crashing on my windows laptop
[05:16:00] dagar: brb
[05:16:00] Beirdo: heh
[05:16:00] Beirdo: at least it RUNS for you
[05:17:00] Delemas: I'm going to try updated to the latest SVN stable as see if a compile of that helps...
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[05:17:00] Delemas: Beirdo, myth dead there too?
[05:17:00] Beirdo: nah, I meant explorer
[05:17:00] Beirdo: hehe
[05:17:00] Delemas: ah k 8o)
[05:17:00] Delemas: s/try updated/try updating/
[05:18:00] thread: what else might I try? anyone have any ideas?
[05:19:00] Beirdo: let me log IN, Windows
[05:19:00] Beirdo: jeez
[05:19:00] Beirdo: windows has a degenerative disease
[05:20:00] Beirdo: wait... it IS one
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[05:20:00] Beirdo: it's got 40 more minutes to stop sucking
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[05:20:00] Beirdo: then I'll go to bed
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[05:21:00] dagar: thread: so where were we
[05:21:00] dagar: I think we might have a related problem
[05:21:00] thread: oh yeah?
[05:21:00] dagar: well its essentially the same thing
[05:21:00] dagar: cat of video device working perfectly
[05:21:00] thread: I tell it to play live tv, and it plays fine sound/video for less than one second
[05:22:00] thread: and it freezes
[05:22:00] thread: and I just ctrl+alt+backspace out of x
[05:23:00] ** Delemas gives Beirdo a linux CD 8op **
[05:24:00] Delemas: Quick way to make windoze stop sucking ;o)
[05:24:00] Beirdo: I'm not planning on usind Linux on this laptop
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[05:27:00] dagar: is there something quick I can do to reset my video quality settings to the default without touching any other options?
[05:27:00] GreyFoxx: there is no factory reset button :)
[05:28:00] dagar: I just want my default encoding values restored
[05:28:00] dagar: I can clear the database
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[05:28:00] dagar: thats a factory reset
[05:28:00] dagar: kinda
[05:28:00] GreyFoxx: Yes, but you did say quick
[05:28:00] GreyFoxx: if you consider the fast and easy way then go for it :)
[05:29:00] dagar: nah I just want default video encoding settings restored, I guess I'll just do it from memory
[05:29:00] xris: man, I feel so productive lately
[05:29:00] Beirdo: hehe
[05:30:00] Beirdo: you've been having a productive time
[05:30:00] xris: first mythweb updates, now a ton of nuvexport fixes (even a couple of enhancements)
[05:30:00] Beirdo: windows is starting up....
[05:30:00] Beirdo: sigh
[05:30:00] Beirdo: fuck YOU, Win2k
[05:30:00] dagar: hehe
[05:31:00] dagar: I lost explorer again
[05:31:00] Beirdo: 10th reboot I think
[05:31:00] dagar: still going on the apps I already had running
[05:31:00] dagar: its like twm in windows
[05:31:00] Beirdo: msiexec (Windows Installer) is pooched for me too
[05:31:00] xris: Beirdo: did you update mythweb yesterday afternoon after I put in the rest of the new stuff?
[05:31:00] Beirdo: yes
[05:31:00] Beirdo: I like
[05:31:00] Beirdo: you need to document what needs to be in the database though :)
[05:32:00] GreyFoxx: xris: Can you set a default playgroup to display when going to the Recorded Programs screen?
[05:32:00] Beirdo: a little code reading figured it out for me though
[05:32:00] Beirdo: now it says "Press Ctrl-Alt-Delete to begin"
[05:32:00] Beirdo: I hit Ctrl-Alt-Delete... nothing
[05:32:00] Beirdo: gooooo windows
[05:33:00] xris: GreyFoxx: it should stick to the last one visited
[05:33:00] Beirdo: and this is in safe mode
[05:33:00] Beirdo: safe, my all
[05:33:00] Beirdo: my ass rather
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[05:34:00] GreyFoxx: Mine keeps display All items , Though I haven't updated mythweb in a couple days
[05:34:00] Delemas: I've had similar problems with a box here Beirdo. It's basically reinstall time there...
[05:34:00] Beirdo: I hate Windows
[05:34:00] Beirdo: SO much
[05:34:00] thread: haha
[05:34:00] thread: why use it then
[05:35:00] GreyFoxx: Well actually, it's Display the playgroup, but it's pulling/generating previews for all items, not just for the displayed playgroup
[05:35:00] thread: some 'dos only app you gotta run?
[05:35:00] Beirdo: because some stuff only comes for windoze
[05:35:00] thread: yea I do a pretty good job of avoiding that stuff I guess
[05:35:00] GreyFoxx: So even though I never want to see items in the LiveTV group, it's generating preview images for them and just not displaying them to me
[05:36:00] cworth: So commercial skipping suddenly just stopped happening for me. Anyone have any ideas what I might have done that could have cause that? Or any ideas about how I might diagnose why it's not working anymore? (I really miss it.)
[05:36:00] Beirdo: I want to break this OS into tiny little pieces
[05:36:00] thread: Beirdo: impossible :/
[05:36:00] thread: hehe
[05:37:00] Beirdo: stuck with a stupid hourglass at the Ctrl-Alt-Delete screen
[05:37:00] Beirdo: wunderbar
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[05:38:00] shriver: I'm still having some problems with MythDVD
[05:39:00] dagar: what problems?
[05:39:00] shriver: Under Setup, There are no 'Media Settings' or 'DVD Settings' options, like there should be
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[05:39:00] kahuna_: Anyone having problems with sound in mythvideo, current SVN?
[05:40:00] dagar: thread: have you modified your recording profiles?
[05:40:00] GreyFoxx: kahuna_: Using the internal player I assume ?
[05:40:00] kahuna_: mplayer.
[05:40:00] shriver: I installed all the themes I could find, and nothing
[05:40:00] GreyFoxx: Then that would be an mplayer issue ;)
[05:41:00] kahuna_: I suppose it could be. It was working the same day before I updated to SVN however. No changes is any other software.
[05:41:00] thread: dagar: where are the recording profiles?
[05:41:00] GreyFoxx: Well, since myth isn't involved with audio at that point it's gonna be something external
[05:43:00] kahuna_: I suppose I'll stop being lazy and see if mplayer will work on it's own.
[05:43:00] xris: Beirdo: why are you using windows, anyway?
[05:44:00] |Slurpee|: ne1 ever install a nvida fx5200 in debian ?
[05:44:00] Beirdo: GAH
[05:44:00] cworth: Oh, looks like I may have found the solution in the mailing list archives with REPAIR TABLE within mysql.
[05:44:00] Beirdo: because TMPGEnc DVD Author runs under Windows
[05:45:00] Beirdo: and until someone finds me a DVD authoring package under Linux that will allow MPEG1 in VOBs (as per spec), I am stuck with it :)
[05:45:00] shriver: Does anyone have any ideas about how I can get the MythDVD setup options or otherwise change the dvd player command?
[05:48:00] Beirdo: trying "safe" mode again
[05:48:00] dagar: could someone with a pvr 150/250 tell me the proper value for stream type in recording profiles?
[05:48:00] Beirdo: funny, "normal" boot will let me log in
[05:48:00] dagar: MPEG-2 PS or MPEG-2 TS
[05:49:00] kahuna_: PS
[05:49:00] xris: PS
[05:49:00] kahuna_: TS should be for DVB I beleive.
[05:49:00] dagar: do you know by chance what would happen if it was TS?
[05:49:00] dagar: say would that cause choppy video and audio?
[05:49:00] xris: dagar: it wouldn't work properly
[05:49:00] dagar: christ I'm an idiot
[05:49:00] xris: could be choppy video at best, I think
[05:50:00] dagar: I set the wrong fucking video and thought the new ivtv drivers just weren't working for me
[05:50:00] dagar: I wasn't paying attention when I upped the bitrate
[05:50:00] dagar: KHAAAANnn
[05:50:00] kahuna_: lol
[05:50:00] dagar: ahh that is such a relief
[05:50:00] xris: dagar: good to finally fix it, though
[05:50:00] dagar: I now have everything working except mythgame
[05:51:00] xris: better than I'm doing
[05:51:00] xris: but that's sheer laziness
[05:51:00] dagar: I had this huge problem with my myth box overheating in the closet, but I finally fixed that
[05:51:00] Beirdo: drill a hole to outside?
[05:52:00] Beirdo: 2" hole saw to outside
[05:52:00] Beirdo: should fix it right up for the winter
[05:52:00] Beirdo: especially if you can get the wind whistling in the hole :)
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[05:53:00] kahuna_: Buy one of those dorm room fridges for it
[05:53:00] Beirdo: how's the winter in KW this year?
[05:53:00] dagar: closet is in the middle of the house with tv on the otherside of the wall
[05:53:00] dagar: wet right now
[05:53:00] dagar: very cold otherwise
[05:53:00] Beirdo: TO ain't much better
[05:53:00] Beirdo: just more of a rat race :)
[05:53:00] dagar: yeah same old
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[05:56:00] dagar: now its time to upgrade the raid array
[05:57:00] thread: dagar: what video option did you have set wrong?
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[05:57:00] Ediehow: hi friendzzzzzzzzzz
[05:57:00] Ediehow: can anyone help me get xvmc working?
[05:57:00] dagar: stream type in recording profile
[05:58:00] dagar: I set it to the worng value when just taking a look at the list
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[05:58:00] dagar: I doubt you have the same issue, but its definitely a myth issue
[05:58:00] dagar: do you have any other tuners?
[05:59:00] thread: in mythsetup?
[05:59:00] thread: no, just one pvr4250
[05:59:00] thread: 250
[05:59:00] dagar: hmm
[06:00:00] dagar: and not a bloody hint in the log
[06:01:00] thread: i wish stuff would just work right more often. . .
[06:01:00] thread: heh
[06:02:00] dagar: whats the fun in that
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[06:02:00] dagar: half of what I like about myth is hacking it together myself
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[06:02:00] dagar: instead of dropping a few thousand on a windows media pc
[06:02:00] thread: yeah
[06:02:00] shriver: has anyone used mythtv on ubuntu before?
[06:03:00] thread: but it's better when you don't have to tear out your hair for hours over some silly little issue
[06:03:00] dagar: I'll have to agree there
[06:03:00] dagar: although it feels that much better when you do get it
[06:04:00] thread: sigh...
[06:04:00] thread: i done it before...
[06:04:00] dagar: ha sorry
[06:04:00] Beirdo: fuck Winblows, it'll still be borked tomorrow
[06:04:00] thread: it's not all that exciting when you wrestle through it for the 4th time
[06:04:00] dagar: backup your database and start from stratch
[06:04:00] media: hmm
[06:04:00] media: ok
[06:04:00] Ediehow: Beirdo: do u use nvidia?
[06:04:00] Beirdo: no
[06:04:00] media: time to set this crap up
[06:05:00] Beirdo: good night
[06:05:00] dagar: good night
[06:05:00] ** CyberKnet wonders why GreyFoxx's default ati_remote.c doesn't include a map to the Z key **
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[06:05:00] GreyFoxx: Cause I don't use it ?
[06:05:00] CyberKnet: heh
[06:05:00] sportmankid: heh
[06:05:00] sportmankid: this is such crap
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[06:05:00] CyberKnet: I think I'll remap the C button from aspect ratio to commercial skip
[06:05:00] CyberKnet: that would be KEY_Z, wouldn't it?
[06:05:00] dagar: anyone here have a diskless frontend?
[06:06:00] GreyFoxx: yeah
[06:06:00] CyberKnet: cool
[06:06:00] GreyFoxx: dagar: All of my frontends are diskless
[06:06:00] CyberKnet: commercial skip not useful to you?
[06:06:00] GreyFoxx: CyberKnet: I don't bother with it
[06:06:00] dagar: GreyFoxx: net boot?
[06:06:00] GreyFoxx: if I wanna skip I just jump forward
[06:06:00] CyberKnet: Most of the time it''s pretty accurate for me
[06:06:00] GreyFoxx: dagar: Yes, dhcp/tftp and so on
[06:06:00] CyberKnet: only law & order svi screws it up
[06:07:00] CyberKnet: and just once per ep
[06:07:00] CyberKnet: svu, even
[06:07:00] dagar: what distro do they run?
[06:07:00] GreyFoxx: dagar: I run Slackware on all of my Machines (the non OpenBSD ones that is)
[06:08:00] dagar: my next step is "mass producing" diskless (hopefully fanless) frontends for every tv in the house
[06:10:00] dagar: what remote do you use?
[06:10:00] dagar: ir receiver rather
[06:10:00] GreyFoxx: I use an RF remote
[06:10:00] GreyFoxx: my IR remote is just trained to use the same signals as my IR keyboard
[06:11:00] dagar: what make and model is the rf remote?
[06:11:00] GreyFoxx: No longer sold
[06:11:00] dagar: too bad
[06:11:00] GreyFoxx: But it's based on the same remote design as the x10 lola, and ATI Remote Wonder
[06:11:00] CyberKnet: somethings borked with this Makefile
[06:12:00] CyberKnet: Niveus want more ideas for Myth related products
[06:13:00] CyberKnet: the remote is #1 on the list faik
[06:14:00] GreyFoxx: A Control panel. Something that fits in a 5 1/4 slot that has buttons for Play, pause, ffwd, rew, up/dn/lft/right arrows, ok/select and X for escape/cancel
[06:14:00] GreyFoxx: I'd love something like that
[06:14:00] GreyFoxx: Maybe with a slow for a Griffon PowerMate as a volume knob
[06:14:00] GreyFoxx: slot
[06:15:00] CyberKnet: that's a good idea
[06:15:00] CyberKnet: I'll relay that to Tim
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[06:15:00] CyberKnet: I wonder if HD users have any special needs they could attend to
[06:15:00] GreyFoxx: tell him all I want is a freebie :)
[06:16:00] CyberKnet: you want a freebie and you'll write the linux driver for it? ;)
[06:16:00] GreyFoxx: 2 freebies and I'll hack up the drivers for it
[06:16:00] ** Delemas starts building rev 8467 **
[06:16:00] CyberKnet: I'll relay that too =)
[06:16:00] GreyFoxx: 1 for the dev box, and 1 for one of my frontends
[06:16:00] GreyFoxx: hehe
[06:17:00] CyberKnet: heh
[06:17:00] CyberKnet: you know, a good lcd panel with buttons would probably do the trick for you
[06:17:00] CyberKnet: I wonder if there's one out there they can co-opt
[06:17:00] CyberKnet: like they did with the x10 lola
[06:18:00] GreyFoxx: Could be
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[06:18:00] CyberKnet: heck, they could take the existing pc remote innards and refit them for a 5 1/4 form factor
[06:19:00] GreyFoxx: heh
[06:19:00] CyberKnet: with the exception of the volume knob thingie
[06:19:00] GreyFoxx: With more and more people watching their HTPC to look like Stereo equipment I see "media panels" as more and more importaqnt
[06:19:00] CyberKnet: Yeah.
[06:19:00] GreyFoxx: and most people don't wanna laydown the couple hundred it would take for one of the real nice cases that have them
[06:20:00] GreyFoxx: so a small adding to their existing cases would be ideal
[06:20:00] GreyFoxx: -g
[06:20:00] CyberKnet: The only demand I'd have is if they want an "LCD" on there then for the love of $DEITY please make it a VFD
[06:20:00] GreyFoxx: totally
[06:20:00] xris: CyberKnet: my remote is still an RF keyboard
[06:21:00] CyberKnet: xris: too bad the niveus pc remote isn't still on the market. I think you'd like it.
[06:21:00] Delemas: ya remotes just don't compare to a wireless keyboard 8o)
[06:21:00] CyberKnet: it was priced a little high for the market, I think.
[06:21:00] CyberKnet: If they could have done it for $30 I think they could have moved more units
[06:22:00] CyberKnet: of course, I have absolutely no market research to back that up
[06:22:00] GreyFoxx: There are some sweet remotes that flip open and have a full keyboard (minus number pad) inside
[06:22:00] Delemas: heh
[06:22:00] xris: my problem with remotes is that they're all really slow
[06:22:00] CyberKnet: but I do know I dropped $25 on an IR keyboard easily, and balked at $39 on the Niveus Remote for a long time.
[06:22:00] Ediehow: anyone familiar with xvmc and mythtv/mplayer?
[06:22:00] CyberKnet: the niveus remote doesn't feel slow...
[06:23:00] CyberKnet: well, to me it doesn't
[06:23:00] xris: but I use the keyboard because mythvideo isn't quite right for me so I watch a lot of stuff typed into the shell with xine
[06:23:00] xris: CyberKnet: maybe it was just my lola (before I accidentally stapled the receiver's cable in half)
[06:23:00] CyberKnet: xris: what would your killer hardware add on to myth be that doesn't exist now, or isn't catered to well right now?
[06:23:00] CyberKnet: xris: ouch.
[06:24:00] xris: killer add-on? for me, probable a nice cheap 1080i tv. heh
[06:24:00] CyberKnet: hah
[06:24:00] xris: and a legal way to plug into my Dish receiver
[06:24:00] CyberKnet: the cheap part being the innovation? ;)
[06:24:00] Ediehow: xris: could you help me with something?
[06:25:00] xris: Ediehow: not the question you just asked (I don't have a clue)
[06:25:00] Ediehow: well, i've pretty much ruled out it being a hardware problem
[06:25:00] Ediehow: but
[06:25:00] Ediehow: when i multitask with mplayer or mythtv or totem
[06:25:00] Ediehow: it chunks and stutters
[06:25:00] Ediehow: even like when i min or max firefox while something is playing
[06:26:00] Delemas: yummy
[06:26:00] Delemas: binary drivers?
[06:26:00] Ediehow: yes, nvidia
[06:26:00] Ediehow: but
[06:26:00] Ediehow: it did the same thing with my radeon 9600se
[06:27:00] Delemas: wierd..
[06:27:00] Delemas: Old kernel?
[06:27:00] Ediehow: 2.6.14:(
[06:27:00] Ediehow: what was that setting again
[06:27:00] Ediehow: that goes 10,100, 1000?
[06:27:00] Ediehow: in kernel?
[06:27:00] Ediehow: it was new with kernel 2.6.14
[06:27:00] ** Delemas shrugs **
[06:27:00] Ediehow: err
[06:27:00] Ediehow: it was new with kernel 2.6
[06:28:00] Ediehow: at any rate
[06:28:00] Ediehow: i can't figure out to do
[06:28:00] Ediehow: 2ghz athlon xp, 768mb ddr ram
[06:29:00] Ediehow: nvidia 6200
[06:29:00] Ediehow: i boot to xp, it works fine
[06:29:00] Delemas: Try the mailing lists...
[06:29:00] Ediehow: i did:(
[06:29:00] Ediehow: it does it for totem, mplayer, mythtv
[06:30:00] Ediehow: i have two monitors, using big desktop before, and twinview now
[06:31:00] Juski: mornin'
[06:32:00] Ediehow: hi Juski
[06:32:00] Juski: Ediehow: people already told you what to do last year ;)
[06:32:00] Ediehow: Juski: ?
[06:32:00] ** cworth cheers now that commercial skipping is working again **
[06:32:00] Ediehow: Juski: what was that?
[06:32:00] Juski: you only get accelerated video on one monitor output with the ATI driver IIRC
[06:32:00] Ediehow: ok, as i said;)
[06:32:00] Ediehow: i am no longer using ati card
[06:33:00] Juski: oh!
[06:33:00] Juski: oops
[06:33:00] Juski: sorry Ediehow
[06:33:00] Ediehow: nvidia 6200 now
[06:33:00] Ediehow: no prob
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[06:37:00] Juski: hmmm. do you have xvmc working?
[06:37:00] CyberKnet: any ideas? http://pastebin.ca/35495
[06:38:00] Ediehow: no:(
[06:38:00] Ediehow: i got the cvs mplayer as recommended
[06:38:00] Ediehow: but still have a problem when trying to use xvmc
[06:39:00] Juski: xine has xvmc support built in now, you could try that aswell
[06:41:00] Delemas: Ediehow, Sounds like you have a configuration issues with the Nvidia driver...
[06:41:00] Delemas: Check their howto...
[06:41:00] Ediehow: Delemas: it did the same thing with ati driver, as far as the stutters:(*
[06:41:00] Juski: Ediehow: how many FPS does glxgears report?
[06:41:00] Ediehow: Juski: i thought totem did too?
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[06:42:00] Delemas: Ediehow, what are you using for an -vo ?
[06:42:00] Ediehow: Delemas: for mplayer?
[06:42:00] Delemas: yep
[06:43:00] Delemas: I'm using the plain old Xorg driver. mplayer -vo xv works fine here.
[06:44:00] Ediehow: oh that works for me
[06:44:00] Ediehow: i just still have that problem:(
[06:44:00] ** Delemas misses the point... **
[06:44:00] Ediehow: the multitasking problem
[06:44:00] Ediehow: which is waht i was talking about originally
[06:44:00] Ediehow: stuttering, etc
[06:44:00] Delemas: Well it isn't working then...
[06:45:00] Ediehow: ah, glxgears does the same thing
[06:45:00] Ediehow: once i start moving gnome-terminal, glxgears starts stuttering
[06:45:00] Ediehow: 2783 frames in 5.0 seconds = 556.600 FPS
[06:45:00] ** xris should figure out how to get mencoder to encode from mythtranscode **
[06:45:00] Ediehow: xris: nuvexport is excellent, btw
[06:46:00] Ediehow: Delemas: when i multitask while glxgears is running
[06:46:00] Ediehow: it nearly stops glxgears, as far as what i can see
[06:46:00] Ediehow: the display, i mean
[06:46:00] xris: Ediehow: thanks
[06:46:00] Delemas: Still sounds like either an X config problem... Does glxinfo report correct info?
[06:47:00] Ediehow: hold on sir
[06:47:00] Ediehow: is it ok that a tv show is playing while i am doing this?
[06:47:00] Ediehow: a recorded program
[06:47:00] Delemas: sure
[06:47:00] Ediehow: k
[06:48:00] Delemas: I do believe if you are using the binary driver and it's properly installed you should get Direct Rendering: yers
[06:48:00] Ediehow: http://pastebin.com/486862
[06:48:00] Delemas: s/yers/yes/
[06:48:00] Delemas: Driver isn't installed properly...
[06:48:00] Ediehow: ?
[06:48:00] Delemas: Direct Rendering = no...
[06:49:00] Ediehow: hmm, i need to fix that, but as far as multitasking part, i don't think that's the problem, as w/ati it was the same, but how do i fix that?
[06:49:00] Delemas: It's a classic FAQ. Checkout the howto in #nvidia
[06:49:00] Ediehow: i thought i had that before?
[06:49:00] Ediehow: oh
[06:49:00] Ediehow: that's xorg.conf
[06:49:00] Ediehow: dri is not in there
[06:50:00] Delemas: You've left out some stuff in xorg.conf...
[06:50:00] Ediehow: load "dri"?
[06:50:00] Delemas: Read the install docs for the driver. It tells you want to change in xorg.conf...
[06:51:00] Juski: Ediehow: I don't think you have 3d acceleration enabled properly if you get such a low figure in glxgears.. which is probably causing the stutterring when you mutlitask
[06:51:00] Delemas: exactly
[06:52:00] Ediehow: unfortunately, probably not, as i had the same problem when i did have dri w/ati driver:( but i do need to fix the dri thing, thanks for showing me that
[06:52:00] Ediehow: let me see
[06:52:00] Ediehow: i'll fix that real quick
[06:54:00] Delemas: sigh you really won't RTFM will you.
[06:54:00] Delemas: http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/ . . . tion-02.html
[06:54:00] Ediehow: Delemas: why don't you listen to what i am saying?
[06:54:00] Delemas: READ
[06:54:00] Ediehow: i have told you repeatedly it did the same thing with ati, did i not?
[06:54:00] Ediehow: and dri was on, and working, from glxinfo w/ati driver/card
[06:54:00] Ediehow: and i still had the multitasking problem
[06:55:00] Delemas: yes that's not relevant information.
[06:55:00] Ediehow: you just said my problem was due to dri not working
[06:55:00] Delemas: no
[06:55:00] Ediehow: and i told you that i had dri working with ati driver
[06:55:00] Delemas: I said you have a xorg.conf config problem.
[06:56:00] Delemas: Read that URL
[06:56:00] Delemas: it tells you exactly what you need to change in your config...
[06:56:00] Delemas: The dri module is not used with the binary nvidia driver...
[06:56:00] Ediehow: i don't have .78 btw
[06:57:00] Ediehow: i was told to use 7676
[06:57:00] Ediehow: but hold on
[06:57:00] Delemas: sure
[06:57:00] Ediehow: let me look at documentation for 767
[06:57:00] Ediehow: 7676
[06:57:00] Delemas: The docs are the same...
[06:58:00] Delemas: Sure I'm using 7667 in one place. Whatever works...
[06:58:00] Ediehow: Delemas: are you referring to load "glx"?
[06:58:00] Delemas: yes that's one of the changes...
[06:58:00] Ediehow: yeah, i already had that in there
[06:59:00] CyberKnet: aha. tabs got converted to spaces
[06:59:00] Delemas: If you go through and set those options as per that html file and you still have direct rendering no then you need to reinstall your driver and/or the nvidia x libraries. Your install is borked...
[07:00:00] Ediehow: http://pastebin.com/486868
[07:00:00] Ediehow: k
[07:00:00] Ediehow: i kept trying the last 3 versions of the binary driver
[07:00:00] Ediehow: as i heard the new one was bad for myth
[07:00:00] Ediehow: and the one after that had issues with myth
[07:00:00] Ediehow: and they said 7676 was the best
[07:00:00] Delemas: That sometimes happens when the xlibraries get updated and you use the binary nvidia installer...
[07:00:00] Ediehow: oh wait, i know what happened, i bet
[07:00:00] Ediehow: i reinstalled X trying to fix this
[07:00:00] Delemas: lol
[07:00:00] Ediehow: and haven't reinstalled nvidia driver since then
[07:00:00] Delemas: That will do it..
[07:00:00] Ediehow: this was 2 or so days ago
[07:00:00] Ediehow: hold on
[07:01:00] Delemas: You may have to switch to a text console to reinstall the drivers. I forget...
[07:01:00] Ediehow: yeah, you do
[07:01:00] Ediehow: i do telinit 3
[07:01:00] Ediehow: what ver of drivers do you use?
[07:02:00] Delemas: On this box I'm using the open source xorg driver. On my other I'm still using 7667...
[07:02:00] Ediehow: k
[07:02:00] Ediehow: what is the diff between pkg0 and pkg1 of driver?
[07:03:00] Delemas: It includes newer prebuilt images for newer kernels. My kernels are always custom so they are pointless for me. Use the higher number if in doubt...
[07:03:00] Ediehow: oh, my kernel is custom
[07:04:00] Delemas: So it's going to probably build a driver you use anyways...
[07:04:00] Ediehow: k
[07:04:00] Ediehow: ok, brb
[07:04:00] Ediehow: let me reinstall
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[07:07:00] sportmankid: hey
[07:07:00] sportmankid: im back
[07:07:00] sportmankid: and ready to screw up everything
[07:08:00] Delemas: sportman = Ediehow?
[07:08:00] Delemas: sportmankid = Ediehow?
[07:08:00] sportmankid: no
[07:08:00] sportmankid: sorry
[07:08:00] sportmankid: who?
[07:09:00] Delemas: heh no worries. Thought you were someone else 8o)
[07:09:00] sportmankid: im trying to set up as much of mythtv as possible
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[07:09:00] Delemas: Was just in here asking questions...
[07:09:00] Ediehow: direct rendering: Yes
[07:09:00] Delemas: heh what do you know 8o)
[07:09:00] sportmankid: i see Delemas
[07:09:00] sportmankid: pm?
[07:10:00] Ediehow: i guess you guys were talking about me;)
[07:10:00] sportmankid: yep
[07:10:00] Ediehow: ?
[07:10:00] Ediehow: Delemas: so dri is on now
[07:10:00] Delemas: That should help 8o)
[07:10:00] Delemas: oh
[07:10:00] Ediehow: like, i am in an xchat window now
[07:10:00] Ediehow: and glxgears is running
[07:10:00] Ediehow: and if i scroll up and down quickly
[07:10:00] Ediehow: it chunks
[07:11:00] Ediehow: slows down
[07:11:00] Delemas: well it will slow a little but not much...
[07:11:00] Ediehow: i just minimized xchat
[07:11:00] Ediehow: and glxgears stopped for a second
[07:11:00] Ediehow: then when i restored it, it stopped for a second again
[07:11:00] Ediehow: 5673 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1134.600 FPS
[07:11:00] Ediehow: holy cow
[07:11:00] Delemas: Did you remove dri and GLCore?
[07:12:00] Ediehow: it slows almost to a complete halt when i risized the gaim buddy list
[07:12:00] Ediehow: and is now going very very slow as it's not in focus
[07:12:00] Ediehow: but once i clicked back on it again, and it's in focus, it's going very fast
[07:12:00] Ediehow: neither dri nor glcore is in there
[07:13:00] Delemas: hmm well it's a step in the right direction...
[07:13:00] Ediehow: Delemas: well, i had this before:(
[07:13:00] Delemas: which kernel was this?
[07:13:00] Ediehow: i only had dri turned off for a few days
[07:13:00] Ediehow: 2.6.14
[07:13:00] Delemas: oh yes. I'm tired ;o)
[07:13:00] Ediehow: like right now, my buddy list is is covering a portion of the glxgears window
[07:13:00] Ediehow: the gears are going very slow, but i have the console for them open, and they are still getting around 1300 fps
[07:14:00] Ediehow: but to me they appear VERY slow
[07:14:00] Ediehow: once i click on the glxgears window, it shoots back to fast again
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[07:14:00] Ediehow: i have a portion of a nautilus window in front of glxgears now, and it's doing the same thing
[07:14:00] Ediehow: going very very slow
[07:15:00] Ediehow: dma is on on the hd
[07:15:00] Ediehow: io_support is 32bit
[07:15:00] Delemas: I'm not sure then Ediehow. This might be something new I haven't seen. I'd try hunting the nvnews forums and asking in #nvidia...
[07:16:00] Ediehow: yeah, been trying:( as i said though, it did the same for ati, that's why i can't figure out what the problem is:(
[07:16:00] Ediehow: it makes it miserable multitasking while watching tv
[07:17:00] GreyFoxx: then don't ?:)
[07:17:00] Ediehow: GreyFoxx: yeah, or better yet, maybe i should just do everything through console
[07:17:00] GreyFoxx: *shrug* I do :)
[07:18:00] ** sportmankid goes back to crying how he is to stupid **
[07:18:00] Ediehow: sportman:
[07:18:00] Ediehow: ?
[07:21:00] Ediehow: Delemas: thanks for your help, i do appreciate it
[07:21:00] Ediehow: i really wish i could figure this out:(
[07:21:00] Ediehow: i bought the nvidia card because i was told that was probably the issue
[07:22:00] Delemas: Well the ATI drivers are quite poor.
[07:22:00] Ediehow: i tried knoppix, but my card uses vesa driver, and i had the same problem, but i assumed that's cuz it was using ati vesa driver
[07:22:00] Ediehow: so i hear
[07:22:00] Delemas: Sounds like multiple problems..
[07:22:00] Ediehow: i am pretty positive it's software
[07:22:00] Ediehow: i mean, no problems in XP with same thing
[07:22:00] Delemas: oh probably
[07:22:00] Delemas: lol
[07:22:00] Ediehow: i always have my mythtv play in 2nd monitor
[07:22:00] Delemas: XP is a problem in itself...
[07:23:00] Ediehow: and do things on my first
[07:23:00] Ediehow: Delemas: do you have an audigy2?
[07:23:00] Ediehow: or a 24bit soundcard?
[07:24:00] Delemas: I'm using an hmmm audigy 2 value I think is was...
[07:24:00] Ediehow: do you have 24bit sound working?
[07:24:00] Ediehow: apparently the new drivers can do that
[07:24:00] ** Delemas shrugs. **
[07:24:00] Ediehow: i was wondering if it's worthwhile getting 24bit playback in myth
[07:25:00] Delemas: I doubt it.
[07:25:00] Ediehow: k
[07:25:00] Delemas: Unless you really care...
[07:25:00] sportmankid: hmm
[07:25:00] Delemas: I'm quite happy with my sound output..
[07:25:00] sportmankid: the website says for firewire the Firewire.
[07:25:00] sportmankid: You may use the Firewire output of the DCT6200 or the SA3250.
[07:25:00] Ediehow: k
[07:25:00] sportmankid: if i have the SA4200
[07:25:00] sportmankid: do you think there is a chance
[07:25:00] sportmankid: it would work?
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[07:27:00] navreet: does mythtv work on amd64?
[07:31:00] xris: navreet: why wouldn't it?
[07:31:00] navreet: xris, it isn't installing right now under Ubuntu Breezy 64
[07:31:00] navreet: bit
[07:32:00] xris: might have to compile by hand? dunno
[07:33:00] sportmankid: i need help installing under breezy 32'
[07:37:00] Delemas: navreet, works fine on here on amd64
[07:37:00] Delemas: no idea about breezy
[07:37:00] sportmankid: delemas what method did you install
[07:37:00] sportmankid: through a packagemanager
[07:37:00] sportmankid: or by hand
[07:37:00] sportmankid: with terminal
[07:38:00] Ediehow: sportman: what r u trying to do?
[07:38:00] Delemas: sportmankid, my own packages.
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[07:38:00] sportmankid: well the thing is im using a package manager
[07:38:00] sportmankid: and each time i install
[07:38:00] sportmankid: it seems to set something up wrong
[07:39:00] sportmankid: cause i can never seem to set up the mysql database right
[07:39:00] Ediehow: u cannot get mythtv installed?
[07:39:00] sportmankid: i want both the frontend and backend on this computer
[07:39:00] sportmankid: i can get it installed
[07:39:00] sportmankid: but i cant get the frontend connected to the backend
[07:39:00] Ediehow: i use both frontend and backend on one machine
[07:39:00] Ediehow: is backend running?
[07:39:00] sportmankid: also i have it configured with no tv cards
[07:39:00] sportmankid: h.o. ediehow
[07:39:00] Ediehow: h.o.?
[07:40:00] sportmankid: hold on
[07:40:00] Ediehow: k
[07:40:00] sportmankid: thats what h.o. means
[07:40:00] Ediehow: /etc/rc.d/init.d/mythbackend status
[07:41:00] sportmankid: ok how do i do that
[07:42:00] sportmankid: just type that in terminal?
[07:42:00] Ediehow: do what?
[07:42:00] Ediehow: yes
[07:42:00] Ediehow: as root
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[07:42:00] sportmankid: sudo /etc/rc.d/init.d/mythbackend status
[07:42:00] sportmankid: sudo: /etc/rc.d/init.d/mythbackend: command not found
[07:43:00] t00m: without rc.d
[07:43:00] Ediehow: err
[07:43:00] Ediehow: what distro?
[07:43:00] Ediehow: service mythbackend status
[07:43:00] Ediehow: type that
[07:44:00] sportmankid: hmm
[07:44:00] sportmankid: can i paste back like 5 lines
[07:44:00] sportmankid: media@ubuntu:~$ mythbackend status
[07:44:00] sportmankid: Invalid argument: status
[07:44:00] sportmankid: Valid options are:
[07:44:00] sportmankid: -l or --logfile filename Writes STDERR and STDOUT messages to filename
[07:44:00] sportmankid: -p or --pidfile filename Write PID of mythbackend to filename
[07:44:00] sportmankid: -d or --daemon Runs mythbackend as a daemon
[07:44:00] sportmankid: -v or --verbose debug-level Prints more information
[07:44:00] sportmankid: Accepts any combination (separated by comma)
[07:44:00] sportmankid: of all,none,quiet,record,playback,channel,
[07:44:00] sportmankid: osd,file,schedule,network,commflag,audio,
[07:44:00] sportmankid: libav,jobqueue
[07:44:00] sportmankid: --printexpire List of auto-expire programs
[07:44:00] sportmankid: --printsched Upcoming scheduled programs
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[07:44:00] sportmankid: --testsched Test run scheduler (ignore existing schedule)
[07:44:00] sportmankid: --resched Force the scheduler to update
[07:45:00] sportmankid: --nosched Do not perform any scheduling
[07:45:00] sportmankid: --version Version information
[07:45:00] sportmankid: yea that didnt work
[07:45:00] sportmankid: either
[07:46:00] sportmankid: ..................
[07:48:00] Ediehow: hey
[07:48:00] Ediehow: you need to use pastebin
[07:48:00] Ediehow: when you paste large things
[07:48:00] Ediehow: i didn't say mythbackend status
[07:48:00] Ediehow: service mythbackend status
[07:48:00] sportmankid: ah
[07:49:00] icbu: hello everyone. I am new to mythtv and have a problem in that playback colours are wrong, it looks like the picture has been through a blue filter. I believe this is a problem with xv or my video card ATI 9200 SE as this is also a problem in mplayer, but I would appriciate if anyone could give me pointers on how to fix this. I am using Ubuntu 5.1
[07:49:00] sportmankid: that did nothing at all
[07:50:00] sportmankid: hmm
[07:50:00] sportmankid: well i just installed it
[07:50:00] sportmankid: chances are it is not running
[07:50:00] Ediehow: /sbin/service mythbackend status
[07:50:00] sportmankid: how would i configure it
[07:51:00] Ediehow: sportman: now, alot of these types of questions ARE documented in howto very easily:)
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[07:51:00] Ediehow: http://www.abarbaccia.com/
[07:51:00] Ediehow: there you go
[07:51:00] Ediehow: abarbaccia.com – Home of Ubuntu MythTV
[07:52:00] sportmankid: ah
[07:52:00] sportmankid: thanks
[07:52:00] sportmankid: im running ubuntu also
[07:52:00] Ediehow: yeah, i saw that
[07:52:00] icbu: ediehow if that link was for me I have searched that site, and others...
[07:53:00] Ediehow: was for sportman
[07:53:00] icbu: ok ty
[07:54:00] sportmankid: ah
[07:54:00] sportmankid: yea that doesnt fix my problem either
[07:54:00] sportmankid: hrmm
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[07:55:00] Ediehow: dude, you haven't even tried doing anything post installation
[07:55:00] Ediehow: you're going to have to read the docs for what to do
[07:55:00] sportmankid: i have done stuff postinstall
[07:55:00] sportmankid: i screwed it up last time
[07:55:00] Ediehow: you didn't even start mythbackend
[07:55:00] sportmankid: so im starting over
[07:55:00] Ediehow: tell me if mythbackend is running
[07:56:00] ** sportmankid goes to run mythtv-setup **
[07:58:00] sportmankid: Database error was:
[07:58:00] sportmankid: Access denied for user: 'mythtv@localhost' (Using password: YES)
[07:58:00] sportmankid: 2006-01–02 02:58:07.211 Failed to init MythContext, exiting.
[07:58:00] sportmankid: media@ubuntu:/$
[07:59:00] Ediehow: well that's great, i still can't use xvmc
[07:59:00] Ediehow: sheesh
[08:01:00] Ediehow: i can almost promise you you didn't do the mysql setup portion right
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[08:01:00] Ediehow: Machiel
[08:01:00] Ediehow:
[08:01:00] Ediehow: Allright I fixed it, maybe good for future reference, I tracked down the mysql config script mc.sql and ran it, and mythtv works now.
[08:01:00] Ediehow: I still need to config the rest but atleast it starts and looks good.
[08:01:00] Ediehow: http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/archive/o_t/t . . . _denied.html
[08:01:00] Umaro: hey guys, anyone here using an nvidia geforce2 card with svideo for TV-out?
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[08:13:00] icbu: should I ask the mailing list?
[08:14:00] xris: nuvexport now has an ipod format exporter. I can't get it to work, but its author says it does with a properly-configured ffmpeg.
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[08:28:00] prologic: How do I clear out the mythtv db and start from fresh ?
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[08:31:00] xris: prologic: drop database mythconverg
[08:31:00] xris: create database mythconverg
[08:31:00] xris: then run mythtv-setup again
[08:31:00] xris: db perms should stick
[08:33:00] sportmankid: im thinking of giving up
[08:33:00] sportmankid: and trying with knoppmyth again
[08:33:00] sportmankid: even though that did not work last time
[08:33:00] sportmankid: :(
[08:34:00] sportmankid: the instructions are always incorrect or outdated
[08:34:00] sportmankid: and im to stupid to figure it out
[08:34:00] sportmankid: cause im retarded
[08:34:00] sportmankid: :(
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[08:34:00] prologic: hmm
[08:34:00] prologic: xris, I'd rather not delete my settings :/
[08:34:00] prologic: hehe
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[08:56:00] FunkyELF: xris, yeah, I ran mythfilldatabase as a first instinct. I just wonder why it came up w/ no data when I rebooted
[08:57:00] Ediehow: i don't get this
[08:57:00] Ediehow: i just played an opengl game in X
[08:57:00] Ediehow: and it works fine
[08:57:00] Ediehow: but NOOOOOOOOO i still have the multitasking problem with video
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[09:28:00] sportmankid: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem . . . m=5849402672
[09:31:00] icbu: anyone?
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[09:45:00] spartacus: Hi. Having problems with MythTV 0.18.1 and Alsa audio. Movies work fine, but Music can't seem to play through Alsa? Alsa-oss appears to be sending to analog out, but need digital out here. Any way of seeing if MythTV supports Alsa natively, and how to select a devce to use?
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[10:24:00] xris: Ediehow: could just be using up too much cpu to decode
[10:25:00] Ediehow: xris: always under 20% i believe
[10:25:00] Ediehow: :(
[10:25:00] xris: weird
[10:27:00] Delemas: yaay problem fixed. Need new version of mythtv, reseting my input from Tuner0 to Tuner. Setting my default channel to 3 instead of "" and a couple of restarts.
[10:27:00] Delemas: ugh
[10:27:00] Delemas: bleh sleep what's that 8op
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[11:31:00] t00m: what does auto-expire mean?
[11:33:00] Juski: t00m: when the recordings reach a certain age they'll be deleted
[11:33:00] t00m: which age?
[11:33:00] Juski: or disk space
[11:33:00] Juski: you can configure it
[11:34:00] t00m: narph
[11:34:00] t00m: i need to write a mythsetup.cgi
[11:34:00] t00m: always have to switch on the tv if i want to set sth up
[11:35:00] t00m: and worse, walk to the other room! :)
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[11:35:00] Juski: ahh sorry no, it's just diskspace related
[11:37:00] Juski: why not just use VNC, t00m?
[11:40:00] t00m: vnc is evil
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[11:43:00] Juski: vnc is evil... ROFL
[11:43:00] t00m: it's one more vulnerable service :)
[11:43:00] t00m: and apache is running anyway
[11:44:00] t00m: and i need to get involved in developing myth*
[11:44:00] Juski: anyway t00m: you can set mythtv to auto expire old recordings when you hit a disk space threshold.. it's all under utils/setup > setup > tv > general
[11:45:00] t00m: yeah, i'll try to remember when i switch on the tv next time. thx :)(
[11:45:00] t00m: :)
[11:45:00] Juski: t00m: if you're firewalled you don't need to worry about security so much... not that you should ever have a box directly connected to the internet
[11:46:00] Juski: just change the default port & make the password hard to guess.. I've not been pwned yet
[11:46:00] ** Juski touches wood **
[11:46:00] t00m: i know, i know
[11:48:00] Juski: damn. the local council giving us all bins for glass has really broken the peace & quiet here :-(
[11:49:00] Juski: recycle! smash!
[11:49:00] t00m: hehe
[11:49:00] t00m: don't they have signs 'do only use between 1000 and 2000' or sth?
[11:51:00] laga: i ignore them anyways. ;)
[11:51:00] laga: but i don't live near juski's place, methinks.
[11:51:00] Juski: well it _is_ between those times
[11:51:00] Juski: morning laga
[11:53:00] laga: morning juski.
[11:53:00] laga: sup?
[11:54:00] Juski: in the last throes of this cold I think (yay!)
[11:55:00] Juski: laga: recovered from all the festivities yet?
[11:55:00] laga: :) only one day till the physical effects of nicotine deprivation will be gone. *smashes head against wall*
[11:55:00] laga: Juski: yep, i think so :). i didn't drink that much :P
[11:56:00] laga: how about you, are you allowed to operate heavy machines again? :)
[11:56:00] Juski: yeah – but then I've not been taking anything – apparently that stuff slows down your recovery (but makes you feel better). I'd rather get better faster
[11:57:00] laga: i usually only take night time medicine. works great for me.
[11:57:00] Juski: laga: my wife tried that Zyban stuff... I wished she went cold turkey instead.. damn
[11:58:00] Juski: failed anti-depressant as a stop-smoking aid... yeah now there's a good idea (not)
[11:58:00] laga: hehe
[11:58:00] laga: wow, this stuff sounds dangerous
[11:59:00] Juski: that's the story behind it... they invented a new antidepressant but in clinical trials found that smokers didn't want to smoke anymore
[11:59:00] laga: wow
[11:59:00] t00m: try to fit in a remote lockable sliding thingie, Juski
[12:00:00] Juski: remote lockable sliding thingie... okaaaaaaaaaaay (?)
[12:00:00] laga: porta potty on ice?
[12:00:00] t00m: to block the hole where they put the glas in
[12:00:00] Juski: t00m: we all have our _own_ bins
[12:00:00] t00m: oh
[12:01:00] Juski: one for paper, one for glass
[12:01:00] t00m: i thought it's one of these big collective bins
[12:01:00] Juski: but strangely, none for plastic, which we chuck a lot more of away
[12:02:00] Juski: so we have our own bin for that, which we dispose of when we go shopping. only issue I have with that is having to clean all the plastic.. that uses energy (hot water etc)
[12:03:00] ** Juski checks his webstats... and (eek) looks in on the logs on the myth server **
[12:06:00] Juski: damn these NTL users (again)... the only unauthorised access attempts are from 213.106.x.x
[12:07:00] laga: block them?
[12:07:00] Juski: there's a plan.. how do I do that? lol
[12:09:00] t00m: only error i've got in my logs is: [Tue Dec 27 12:24:03 2005] [error] [client 192.168.0.4] File does not exist: /www/data/mythweb/favicon.ico
[12:11:00] t00m: does anyone have a favicon?
[12:11:00] Juski: I might make one
[12:11:00] Juski: it's just a 16x16 bitmap isn't it?
[12:11:00] t00m: is it a bitmap?
[12:11:00] t00m: thought, it has to be an 'icon'
[12:12:00] t00m: theDude ~ # file /www/data/favicon.ico
[12:12:00] t00m: /www/data/favicon.ico: MPEG sequence
[12:12:00] t00m: helps? ::)
[12:12:00] Juski: nope
[12:13:00] ** Juski looks it up **
[12:13:00] t00m: i created that one with microsoft Visual studio
[12:13:00] t00m: but maybe gimp can do it as well :)
[12:13:00] t00m: see if it can load it
[12:15:00] t00m: yup, that's working
[12:16:00] t00m: lol
[12:16:00] t00m: it's actually called 'microsoft windows symbol'
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[12:18:00] Juski: done
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[12:21:00] t00m: me 2
[12:22:00] t00m: almost
[12:23:00] Juski: it stopped complaining about it not existing
[12:23:00] Juski: but it's not showing :-/
[12:23:00] Juski: ah well
[12:24:00] Juski: time for lots to eat
[12:24:00] t00m: :)
[12:45:00] t00m: http://mugiri.dyndns.org/mythfav.ico
[12:45:00] t00m: you need to name it favicon.ico
[12:45:00] t00m: where's yours?
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[12:57:00] Juski: http://jusftp.no-ip.org/favicon.ico
[12:58:00] Juski: btw toom: yours doesnt seem to be there
[12:58:00] t00m: ok, that's small :)
[12:58:00] Juski: 16x16 like it should be
[12:58:00] t00m: i mean the font size
[12:59:00] Juski: heh
[13:00:00] Juski: but you can make out what it's supposed to be ;-)
[13:01:00] t00m: what do you think that is: http://pastebin.ca/35522
[13:01:00] t00m: happens when press 'watch tv'
[13:01:00] Juski: mythtv waiting for the DVB card to get a lock & start pushing a stream
[13:02:00] t00m: how would you fix that?
[13:02:00] Juski: erm.. presumably, it's not coping too well with that channel
[13:03:00] Juski: try tuning to other channels
[13:03:00] Juski: seems to be a lot of PIDs there though..
[13:03:00] t00m: all these PIDs for one channel?
[13:04:00] Juski: hard to say but it seems like an unusual amount
[13:04:00] t00m: nice ... so i need to change the default channel
[13:04:00] Juski: normally only like 2 or 3 PIDs per stream
[13:04:00] Juski: what channel is #3 on your setup?
[13:05:00] Juski: btw is that with SVN? I think the DVB stuff is still in a state of flux
[13:08:00] t00m: no that's gentoo ebuild
[13:08:00] t00m: .18 or so
[13:10:00] t00m: why you're asking for #3?
[13:12:00] t00m: that would be SBS *shrug*
[13:13:00] Juski: #3 is normally the default channel
[13:13:00] Juski: by erm. default ;)
[13:13:00] t00m: it's 10 here
[13:13:00] t00m: now 7
[13:14:00] t00m: but that didn't change anything
[13:15:00] t00m: nice
[13:15:00] t00m: now i restarted the backend and it's 10 again
[13:15:00] t00m: 2006-01–02 21:15:01.245 DVB#0 Successfully tuned to channel 10.
[13:17:00] t00m: and now it's happily running
[13:18:00] t00m: that's what happened ealier: http://pastebin.ca/35524
[13:18:00] t00m: it recorded sth on another channel before
[13:22:00] Juski: this is puzzling
[13:22:00] t00m: it sucks
[13:22:00] Juski: because 0.18 works fine on all my DVB-T channels
[13:22:00] Juski: and your setup is DVB-T with (allegedly) the same standard
[13:22:00] t00m: it's randomly deciding to record shows or not
[13:23:00] Juski: t00m: I think it'll be a bug in the DVB table handler code or similar
[13:23:00] t00m: ah..
[13:23:00] Juski: each DVB-T mux carries a big stream of data
[13:23:00] Juski: the contents of said data are channels, program guide details & extra stuff
[13:23:00] Merlin83b: t00m: That more buffer thing wasn't so far off! There's an option in setup/tv/playback for more audio buffers which makes the problem much much less.
[13:24:00] Merlin83b: So thanks for that. Still not quite right though.
[13:24:00] t00m: no worries :)
[13:24:00] Juski: the receiving kit works out which bits to demux by looking at the tables containing the nfo about what lives where in the stream.. if the handler for that is borked it's gonna break everything
[13:24:00] Merlin83b: Later I'll delve into mythtv-setup and see if there's any option there that might help.
[13:25:00] t00m: Juski: but shouldn't that be fixed after tuning into another channel?
[13:25:00] Juski: not necessarily
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[13:26:00] Juski: before 0.18, mythtv used to use fixed parameters for the audio & video PIDs – but since the DVB standard says they can be changed on the fly, the devs had to address that
[13:27:00] t00m: ok
[13:28:00] Juski: what signal strength / error rate do you get with tzap?
[13:30:00] t00m: http://pastebin.ca/35525
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[13:30:00] Juski: btw there's also the possibility there's nothing wrong with the software per-se... DVB-T, although digital, is _not_ immune from interference. You can sometimes greatly improve reception by upgrading the aerial feed cable to CT100 or better (foil screened) – DVB-T can be knocked out by impulse noise such as RFI from light switches, electric motors, car ignitions... (etc)
[13:31:00] Juski: t00m: signal is 'okay'.. probably about 75% strength. basic error rate is 0, uncorrectable errors are 0, signal to noise is pretty good though
[13:31:00] t00m: i agree
[13:32:00] Juski: I get a SNR of FFFF
[13:32:00] Juski: mostly
[13:32:00] t00m: oh
[13:32:00] t00m: the cable that connects pc and socket at the wall seems to be quite good
[13:32:00] t00m: well sealed
[13:32:00] Juski: yes, but what's the downlead like?
[13:33:00] Juski: and where does it go? near any mains cables? ;)
[13:33:00] t00m: haven't looked at it yet, but it came a few weeks ago together with the socket at the wall and the cable inside
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[13:34:00] t00m: tv cable is lying around somewhere
[13:34:00] Juski: a lot of digital installers here in the UK use standard UHF coax, which is a no-no
[13:34:00] Juski: standard UHF coax isn't sufficiently screened
[13:34:00] Juski: on analogue TV, RFI will show as 'blips' onscreen
[13:34:00] Juski: but for DVB-T that's pretty much disastrous
[13:34:00] t00m: what are blips
[13:35:00] Juski: horizontal lines across the screen
[13:35:00] t00m: ic
[13:35:00] Juski: or specks
[13:35:00] t00m: no, we don't have them. some specks, yes
[13:35:00] Juski: analogue is very robust in that respect
[13:35:00] t00m: eventually
[13:35:00] t00m: i'll have a look at the cable. brb
[13:36:00] Juski: interrupt analogue TV for a few microseconds & you lose a bit of picture. do the same with DVb-T and er... you get errors in the stream and depending on where they occur, might not be trivial
[13:37:00] Juski: "no ghosting" they say (about DVB-T) "freedom from interference" they say.. yeah RIGHT
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[13:41:00] Merlin83b: Juski: You're in Manchester? Using winter hill I guess?
[13:42:00] Juski: yes indeed
[13:42:00] ** Juski points 'over there somewhere' **
[13:43:00] Merlin83b: Could you pastebin your output of mysql -D mythconverg -e "SELECT * FROM dtv_multiplex" for me?
[13:43:00] Juski: guess so
[13:44:00] Merlin83b: Whereabouts in Manchester, out of interest? (feel free to tell me to shut up :-))
[13:44:00] Juski: near chadderton
[13:44:00] t00m: doesnt' seem to change anything
[13:44:00] Juski: eew.. that's nasty
[13:45:00] Juski: want a channels.conf instead?
[13:45:00] t00m: have a look outside tomorrow
[13:45:00] Merlin83b: Thing is, myth filling in that table and dvbscan/channels.conf seem to disagree.
[13:45:00] Merlin83b: Both would be great :-)
[13:45:00] Merlin83b: I can give you better sql if you like :-)
[13:46:00] Juski: myth's filling the table in wrongly? (shudder!)
[13:46:00] t00m: now i lost the remote.. damnit
[13:46:00] Merlin83b: Well dvbscan and that table don't agree. One of them's wrong :-)
[13:46:00] Juski: yeh Merlin83b: mebbe some better SQL
[13:46:00] Merlin83b: SELECT mplexid, frequency, lp_code_rate, hp_code_rate FROM dtv_multiplex;
[13:46:00] Merlin83b: Those are the ones I want to see, really.
[13:47:00] Juski: erm.. I need more than that.. I'm no SQL wizard
[13:47:00] Merlin83b: Okay, command prompt. Do...
[13:47:00] Merlin83b: mysql -D mythconverg -e "SELECT mplexid, frequency, lp_code_rate, hp_code_rate FROM dtv_multiplex"
[13:48:00] Juski: everything I learned doing a php based DB interface has been forgotten
[13:48:00] Merlin83b: Heh, pretty much the day job for me :-)
[13:48:00] Juski: http://pastebin.com/487090
[13:48:00] t00m: just been watching analogue and there wasn't a single speckle
[13:48:00] Juski: hence your nic ;)
[13:49:00] Juski: t00m: it might be a transitory thing
[13:49:00] t00m: yes.. when i'm NOT watching
[13:49:00] Merlin83b: Hmm, interesting. Channels.conf too then, please, particularly the 754166670 mux.
[13:49:00] Juski: or, as Merlin83b has found, a bug (maybe)
[13:49:00] Juski: coming up
[13:50:00] Juski: http://pastebin.com/487093
[13:50:00] Merlin83b: Ooh, they differ too!
[13:50:00] Juski: ?
[13:51:00] Juski: last got that chans.conf ages ago.. PIDs are probably different now
[13:51:00] Juski: that's what I was saying earlier... they can change the PIDs on the fly
[13:51:00] Juski: and they do!
[13:51:00] Merlin83b: It's the FEC_ values that differ though – database (myth scanning) sams 2/3 3/4, dvbscan says 3/4 3/4
[13:51:00] Juski: really?!
[13:51:00] Merlin83b: Yep, just take a look at what you pasted :-)
[13:51:00] Juski: they are actually 3/4 3/4 for that mux
[13:52:00] Merlin83b: Yeah, thought so.
[13:52:00] Juski: oh shit yeah
[13:52:00] Merlin83b: You can actually change the values in the db to nonsensical stuff and it sometimes carries on working.
[13:52:00] Juski: fuck – that's bad
[13:52:00] Merlin83b: I haven't really delved into the code much though.
[13:52:00] Juski: ahh but wait a sec
[13:52:00] Juski: maybe it doesnt matter
[13:53:00] Juski: because.. the SIT parser is always updating stuff
[13:53:00] Merlin83b: Yeah, I thought it might do something like that as you can update it to 'asdf' and it still works!
[13:53:00] Merlin83b: It does seem to make a difference though.
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[13:53:00] Merlin83b: Not sure why it stored it if it's not needed.
[13:54:00] Juski: where's Charles Brej when you need him? ;)
[13:54:00] Merlin83b: Anyway, gotta go afk for a while, seeya when I investigate more :-)
[13:55:00] Juski: okees
[13:55:00] Juski: I'm not worried too much – mine just _works_
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[14:02:00] t00m: aha
[14:02:00] t00m: just had Transport Stream Continuity Errors
[14:02:00] t00m: tons of DVB#0 PID 512 _continuity_count 4 cc 12
[14:03:00] t00m: numbers change
[14:04:00] Juski: t00m: do you have anything like speed controlled fans in your PC?
[14:04:00] t00m: guess not. why?
[14:05:00] Juski: I think you have a problem with interference
[14:05:00] Juski: flourescent lights at home?
[14:05:00] t00m: nope
[14:05:00] Juski: anyone using a hairdryer at home?
[14:05:00] t00m: hehe, no
[14:06:00] t00m: tv is running
[14:06:00] Juski: live near a radar station? lol
[14:06:00] t00m: ts
[14:06:00] Juski: put it this way.. could anyone be using a powerful electrical device near your house right now?
[14:06:00] t00m: neigihbours count?
[14:07:00] t00m: they could
[14:07:00] Juski: more likely to be in your house, but could be a neighbour
[14:07:00] Juski: how 'fast' are the aerial connections? I mean how 'stiff' are they?
[14:07:00] t00m: well, it wasn't here
[14:08:00] Juski: does anyone near you have CB or amateur radio?
[14:08:00] t00m: don't know
[14:08:00] t00m: connections are nice. as new
[14:08:00] Juski: you'd know by the big F.O. antenna
[14:08:00] t00m: haven't seen one
[14:08:00] Juski: last question before I bore everyone to death...
[14:08:00] t00m: might help if i close the case?
[14:09:00] Juski: it might help very much if you close the case
[14:09:00] t00m: but then it's overheating :/
[14:09:00] t00m: maybe
[14:09:00] Juski: lastly: how close to the transmitter do you live?
[14:09:00] t00m: don't know where that is
[14:09:00] t00m: but i think it's close
[14:10:00] Juski: if you have a big, high gain aerial things like birds & stuff _can_ be a problem
[14:10:00] Juski: if you live in a marginal reception area
[14:10:00] t00m: i've got a roof antenna. no gain, i guess
[14:10:00] Juski: right
[14:11:00] Juski: do you have an old-fashioned TV that doesnt use electronic tuning?
[14:11:00] t00m: ehm. don't think so. it's about 4 years old. TEAC and it's tuning with a progress bar :)
[14:11:00] t00m: no dials
[14:12:00] Juski: if you do, try tuning it to an 'off station' frequency.. if you see that parts of the band that don't have pictures aren't producing mush... that could be the issue
[14:12:00] t00m: mush
[14:12:00] Juski: t00m: the coax that goes down to the socket on the wall... does it have a screening foil?
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[14:13:00] Juski: or is it just like braiding?
[14:14:00] t00m: i think, it uses metal shielding. there are some spikey bits coming out of the back of one plug
[14:14:00] Juski: spikey bits? what, like little strands of wire?
[14:15:00] t00m: yeah, the usual shielding. i haven't seen anything else yet
[14:15:00] Juski: wait a sec.. are you feeding more than one thing with the same aerial feed?
[14:16:00] t00m: the dvb card has an antenna throughput
[14:16:00] t00m: roof antenna goes into pc and from there to the tv
[14:16:00] Juski: if you unplug the feed that goes to the TV does it help any?
[14:17:00] t00m: i'll try
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[14:18:00] t00m: o dear. myth is still frozen
[14:24:00] Juski: ouch
[14:28:00] Juski: heh.. almost 840 hits on my site now
[14:28:00] Arkkis: what's your site
[14:28:00] Arkkis: :)
[14:29:00] Juski: starts with www and ends with .co.uk ;)
[14:35:00] Kel-kippin: you monitoring because you've release pg-wide yet? lol
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[14:36:00] Juski: pg-wide is still not ready yet
[14:36:00] t00m: didn't change
[14:36:00] Kelerion: bad you – naughty you :P
[14:36:00] Juski: if the SVN code would stay still for long enough...
[14:37:00] Kelerion: have been running svn for a couple of days now.. backend is nice and stable.. frontend has some quirks
[14:37:00] Juski: new 'clock' feature has been added innit
[14:37:00] t00m: NOW i'm closing the case
[14:37:00] Kelerion: there's a clock? niice..  :)
[14:38:00] Kelerion: thats been wanted by a lot of people for a long time
[14:39:00] Juski: only in some themes, but it's gonna be in mine
[14:39:00] Juski: I think I'm all done bar mythweather
[14:39:00] t00m: wow. it was running for 2 secounds before freezing again with the closed case
[14:39:00] t00m: i feel fooled
[14:40:00] Juski: t00m: ermmm you need to sort that out man
[14:40:00] Juski: maybe heat is making your tuner go on the fritz if it's that bad
[14:40:00] t00m: it couldn't get that hot so fast
[14:40:00] Juski: heat causes noise in electronics
[14:41:00] Juski: which is why for radiotelescopes they cool the antenna amps way down ;)
[14:43:00] t00m: yeah. syslog is full of: Jan 2 21:20:22 theDude bt878(0): irq FBUS risc_pc=3768c140
[14:43:00] t00m: and Jan 2 21:53:28 theDude bt878(0): irq FDSR FBUS risc_pc=3768c210
[14:44:00] t00m: like 10000000 lines
[14:44:00] Juski: what chipset is your MB?
[14:45:00] t00m: 707779 lines, to be precize
[14:47:00] Juski: I had those kind of errors once, when I forgot to enable UDMA in my kernel
[14:47:00] t00m: can't find the chipset in dmesg but i thought it's an intel
[14:48:00] Juski: do you have udma enabled?
[14:48:00] t00m: should be
[14:49:00] t00m: that one? CONFIG_IDEDMA_PCI_AUTO=y
[14:49:00] Juski: yeh
[14:49:00] Juski: you know what _might_ help... try a newer dvb card driver
[14:50:00] t00m: eh?
[14:51:00] Juski: well.. some DVB card drivers have issues with filtering streams
[14:51:00] Juski: maybe there's been an update to your card driver
[14:51:00] t00m: i didn't know that this thing is using a driver at all
[14:51:00] Juski: course it is
[14:51:00] t00m: but i didn't know, that i can change it
[14:52:00] Juski: yeh of course you can
[14:52:00] Juski: kernel upgrades etc
[14:52:00] t00m: exactly
[14:52:00] Juski: or get drivers from linuxtv.org
[14:52:00] t00m: that's the kernels problem
[14:52:00] Juski: not really
[14:52:00] Juski: the v4l guys submit drivers & they get included in kernels
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[14:54:00] t00m: right, so i get a vanilla kernel with v4l patches
[14:56:00] Juski: or download the v4l sources & build them yourself.. it's not rocket science
[14:57:00] t00m: aren't the v4l sources pathes?
[14:57:00] t00m: patches
[14:57:00] Juski: not only patches
[14:58:00] Juski: what kernel are you running?
[14:58:00] t00m: 2.6.14
[14:58:00] t00m: latest gentoo
[14:59:00] Juski: and what card are you using?
[15:00:00] stickyicky: im sure this must get asked all the time.. but is there any clue when the next version of mythtv is coming out?
[15:00:00] Juski: gawd
[15:00:00] Juski: when it's ready
[15:00:00] stickyicky: thats insightful
[15:00:00] Juski: there was a rumour that 0.19 would be out about now
[15:00:00] Juski: but I can't see that somehow
[15:00:00] t00m: dvico fusion hdtv
[15:01:00] Juski: t00m: there've been some updates for dvico cards I think
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[15:01:00] t00m: yes, but not mine
[15:01:00] Juski: stickyicky: if you're desperate for the latest stuff, use SVN.. some people find it very stable
[15:02:00] D-side: wonder if i can find a running changelog from the svn stuff.
[15:02:00] D-side: i'm sure theres been a plethora of changes since 0.18.2
[15:02:00] stickyicky: not desperate.. just have noticed its been an aweful lot of time since the last release
[15:04:00] Juski: there've been quite a lot of changes.. not too much in terms of major functionality differences though
[15:04:00] fryfrog: D-side: why do i recognize your nick?
[15:04:00] D-side: I can't imagine theres much more *major* functionality to be added.
[15:04:00] D-side: fryfrog: i used to be a regular around here.
[15:04:00] D-side: then i said "screw it, its all working" and bailed. :)
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[15:05:00] D-side: of course, last week i did turn my system on its end and nearly screwed the whole thing, but i avoided that in the nick of time.
[15:07:00] fryfrog: oh, duh
[15:07:00] D-side: glad to see i'm not entirely forgettable. :)
[15:08:00] fryfrog: not quite entirely :)
[15:09:00] D-side: i'm just looking to break things I suppose, so i'm waiting for 0.19. :)
[15:09:00] Juski: I'm more looking fwd to 0.20
[15:09:00] D-side: my backend scenario is... non-standard as of late.
[15:09:00] Juski: opengl UI.. yeah baby _yeah_ !
[15:09:00] D-side: oh?
[15:10:00] fryfrog: is someone working on 0.20?
[15:10:00] fryfrog: or is it just a wet dream / goal?
[15:11:00] Juski: I think 0.19 is everyone's priority
[15:11:00] t00m: i'm getting absolutely no information out of that video4linux homepage :/
[15:11:00] D-side: once thats out the door though, make way for some interesting stuff eh? fantastic.
[15:12:00] fryfrog: sounds like the alsa page!
[15:12:00] fryfrog: or is that, so much information it hurts?
[15:12:00] fryfrog: I can't wait for a QuakeGL myth interface :0
[15:12:00] D-side: hm. i should really try directfb and embedded qt or however that all works.
[15:13:00] Juski: fryfrog: a game style UI would _suck_
[15:13:00] fryfrog: how can you say that!
[15:13:00] D-side: pfeh. why cant i ever leave well enough alone.
[15:13:00] Juski: but I wouldn't mind it being 3D ;)
[15:14:00] fryfrog: nothing could be better than running around a huge, maze like level searching for the "view current recordings" monster!
[15:14:00] Juski: like 'select a menu item'.. then zoom! into the submenu :-D
[15:14:00] fryfrog: of course, that monster would also stealth
[15:14:00] fryfrog: or maybe it could be a 3d MMORPG
[15:14:00] D-side: Juski: somewhat similiar to an xbox dashboard i'd imagine
[15:15:00] fryfrog: so you'd have to camp the rare current recordings monster!
[15:15:00] Juski: and in mythtv-setup, you'd have to beat the big end of level boss before it'd work
[15:15:00] D-side: just not hideously ugly.
[15:15:00] fryfrog: ahhah
[15:15:00] Juski: oh wait.. no change there then
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[15:16:00] danieldk: HOLA!
[15:17:00] Juski: hiya.. happy new year danieldk
[15:17:00] sportman: doies knoppmyth have the backend on it
[15:18:00] danieldk: <eddie> merrry newyear</eddie>
[15:18:00] Juski: not_myth has all sorts on it
[15:18:00] sportman: or no?
[15:18:00] sportman: i was serious
[15:18:00] Juski: course it has
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[15:18:00] sportman: have you used it?
[15:18:00] Juski: I tried it once
[15:18:00] Juski: then threw the disc in the bin
[15:19:00] laga: hehe
[15:19:00] sportman: did it install?
[15:19:00] Juski: yeh. that was the easy bit
[15:19:00] Juski: didn't fscking _work_, though
[15:19:00] sportman: what it didnt boot?
[15:19:00] t00m: ok, it's building new modules now
[15:19:00] sportman: or what did not work
[15:20:00] Juski: the amount of pissing around you have to do, you may aswell use a proper distro
[15:20:00] sportman: ok
[15:20:00] sportman: what distro do you suggest using
[15:20:00] sportman: cause i gave up with ubuntu and mythtv
[15:20:00] sportman: that pissed me off a crapload
[15:20:00] Juski: you gave up with ubuntu? !
[15:20:00] ** laga sets his kubuntu install on fire **
[15:20:00] Merlin83b: KnoppMyth worked for me, with the exception of bbc1 :-)
[15:20:00] sportman: yea
[15:20:00] Juski: fucking hell – abandon all hope then
[15:20:00] laga: i like debian sarge for mythtv, but YMMV
[15:20:00] sportman: lol
[15:21:00] Juski: took me like 2 hours to get umbongo & mythtv working
[15:21:00] sportman: well ubuntu gave me somelame ass error
[15:21:00] Juski: from a flat HDD
[15:21:00] danieldk: laga: Thats what we like to hear!
[15:21:00] sportman: and no one could tell mehow to fix it
[15:21:00] sportman: and i looked on web sites
[15:21:00] Juski: sportman: I saw that this morning
[15:21:00] Juski: people told you you'd not set up the DB properly
[15:21:00] sportman: i know
[15:21:00] sportman: then i reset it up
[15:21:00] sportman: about 5 times
[15:21:00] sportman: and it still didnt work
[15:22:00] sportman: then i fell asleep
[15:22:00] Juski: follow the guide on arabaccia.org or whatever & you can't go wrong unless you can't read plain english
[15:22:00] sportman: thats what i followesd
[15:22:00] danieldk: LOL
[15:22:00] sportman: then i cannot read plain english
[15:22:00] sportman: but wait, there was one thing confusing me with the guide
[15:22:00] Juski: using the package manager to install mythtv tends not to work well btw
[15:22:00] sportman: maybee if you explain it
[15:22:00] sportman: ill understand
[15:23:00] Juski: fire away
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[15:23:00] sportman: yea, it did not work well doing it that wawy
[15:24:00] sportman: well actually
[15:24:00] sportman: did you send me the right link
[15:24:00] sportman: cause it has to do with something on the site andi cannot seem to get to that site
[15:25:00] Merlin83b: What hardware do you use, Juski?
[15:26:00] sportman: are you freggin kidding me
[15:26:00] sportman: Grub Loading Stage1.5
[15:26:00] sportman: error 15
[15:26:00] D-side: I think I want one of those plextor ConvertX boxes.
[15:26:00] sportman: how do i fix this?
[15:26:00] D-side: sportman: good thing grub lets you recover from such problems, eh?
[15:26:00] sportman: is that sarcasm
[15:26:00] D-side: if you've got a box to irc from, you've got a box to RTFM from. :D
[15:26:00] sportman: :-p
[15:27:00] sportman: yea, except for the fact that i dont have that much time cause my parents dont know i was fucking with the computer again
[15:27:00] sportman: :)
[15:28:00] laga: how cute.
[15:28:00] D-side: indeed.
[15:28:00] D-side: laga: how goes it
[15:28:00] Juski: Merlin83b: using 2x Leadtek LR6650 cards in my main backend.. and just one in my messing around box
[15:29:00] laga: D-side: fine. i wanna smash my kubuntu box against the wall, though. ;) what about you?
[15:29:00] Merlin83b: What proc si it?
[15:29:00] ** Juski sent no link.. he was merely alluding to a guide that can be found by using a thing called 'google' with the string "ubuntu mythtv' **
[15:29:00] sportman: your not having fun with ubuntu either?
[15:29:00] Juski: Merlin83b: Athlon 2Ghz
[15:29:00] D-side: laga: I just realized what a sticky situation I've put myself into with regards to my backend. upgrading probably wont be any fun at all. :)
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[15:29:00] laga: sportman: i'm having fun with ubuntu. it's just that kubuntu sucks in combination with my main box.
[15:30:00] Juski: the spare box I'm playing with has SVN on it, running 800Mhz Athlon
[15:30:00] laga: D-side: oh, sounds nice :).
[15:30:00] D-side: laga: because my backend box is decently powerful and doing nothing usually, i turned it into a xen hypervisor with 4 virtual machines under it.
[15:30:00] Merlin83b: Juski: Hmm, Epia m10000 here, wondering if that may be at fault.
[15:30:00] D-side: the mythtv backend is one of those vms. now thats just fine, except X doesnt work. no frontend for that box at all.
[15:30:00] sportman: i see laga
[15:30:00] Merlin83b: Lots of other people report success and its just the one channel.
[15:30:00] laga: D-side: wow. amazing.
[15:31:00] D-side: when i upgrade the version, i'd better hope my xbox's xbmcmythtv scripts get updated for it, or i'm without a frontend on the tv. :)
[15:31:00] D-side: laga: it really is pretty neat.
[15:31:00] laga: D-side: well, i have no clue how xen distributes ressources, but i could imagine that X wouldn't work well anyways – if it was a little bit like vmware.
[15:31:00] laga: can't you just run the frontend on the host os?
[15:32:00] t00m: excellent: DVB#0 ERROR – Tuning for channel #10 failed.
[15:32:00] Juski: Merlin83b: the SVN mythtv gets the muxes screwed up too
[15:32:00] t00m: now it doesn't even start ...
[15:32:00] Merlin83b: Juski: But it works for you with no choppiness?
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[15:32:00] Juski: FEC on 754166670 is 2/3, not 3/4.. no wonder it can't find any channels in the internal scanner
[15:32:00] Juski: yeh it does
[15:32:00] D-side: laga: uhm.
[15:32:00] Juski: Merlin83b: you using via xvmc?
[15:33:00] D-side: yeah. heh. i'd rather not though.
[15:33:00] Juski: cos you really need it, even with mpeg2 recordings
[15:33:00] Merlin83b: Juski: The box in tv playback is checked and XFree86.log.0 seems to think so.
[15:33:00] D-side: laga: its nothing like vmware really... its closer to UML than anything else.
[15:33:00] laga: D-side: oh, ok.
[15:33:00] Merlin83b: Juski: So it should be 2/3, 3/4 ?
[15:34:00] sportman: my frontend can be my xbox?
[15:34:00] D-side: laga: s'okay. i'll figure it out.
[15:34:00] sportman: sweet :)
[15:34:00] Juski: FEC on 754166670 should be 3/4, 3/4, not 2/3 3/4 IIRC
[15:34:00] sportman: i didnt know someone was activily developing a xbmc script cause i have run my frontend on gentoox xbox, and it is not fun
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[15:35:00] Merlin83b: Oh, right.
[15:35:00] Merlin83b: And the SIT thing isn't adjusting it?
[15:35:00] Juski: Merlin83b: I also use an EPIA M-10k in my frontend with Minimyth.. find it absolutely great, but useless for livetv
[15:35:00] laga: sportman: how do you update your gentoo install there?
[15:35:00] Juski: Merlin83b: I don't know, all I know is it's working
[15:35:00] sportman: i got fed up with it
[15:36:00] sportman: it went bye bye
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[15:36:00] ** sportman installs mini debian operating system **
[15:37:00] sportman: hopefully this will work
[15:37:00] Juski: sportman: XBMC & the python mythtv scripts make a great frontend for all expect livetv
[15:37:00] Juski: *except livetv
[15:37:00] sportman: :(
[15:37:00] D-side: indeed
[15:37:00] Merlin83b: Juski: Interesting, istr other people reporting very good results with 10ks.
[15:37:00] sportman: wawit but xbmc can stream videos
[15:37:00] D-side: shame about the livetv aspect, but everything else is great.
[15:37:00] sportman: so couldnt you confrol the backend with a script
[15:37:00] sportman: and livetv could be streamed?
[15:37:00] sportman: over network
[15:37:00] D-side: though you cant edit recordings with it either, but thats a minor nitpick. its a fantastic playback platform
[15:38:00] sportman: or ...
[15:38:00] Juski: Merlin83b: mythbox.co.uk are selling dual tuner mythtv systems based on EPIA boards!
[15:38:00] laga: D-side: i think my scarcasm detector exploded...
[15:38:00] D-side: laga: i was being serious!
[15:38:00] sportman: you know what is nice I got bittorrent working on my xbox
[15:38:00] laga: D-side: oh. heh.
[15:38:00] sportman: so i can click a few buttons on the xbox
[15:38:00] D-side: sportman: boy, that sounds so useful.
[15:39:00] sportman: and then i come back an hour later and my favorite tv show is on it
[15:39:00] laga: sportman: we don't want to talk about it :)
[15:39:00] sportman: :)
[15:39:00] sportman: ok
[15:39:00] Merlin83b: Juski: I guess you'd hope they'd work!
[15:39:00] laga: sportman: since it's possibly illegal...
[15:39:00] Merlin83b: If I can fix this issue another tuner is going in :-)
[15:39:00] sportman: did i say tv show, i meant free documentary :)
[15:39:00] t00m: Juski: kernel modules just coredumped and mythbackend crashed
[15:39:00] Juski: wait a sec.. that site is showing FEC as 2/3 3/4
[15:39:00] Juski: t00m: oops
[15:40:00] t00m: after rebooting
[15:40:00] Juski: hey I use bittorrent.. MPAA, RIAA & FACT ... this is my IP address! sue my ass off now!
[15:40:00] Merlin83b: Juski: It seems to make very little difference switching between them and restarting mythbackend.
[15:41:00] laga: Juski: gee. it's not about suing you, it's about keeping bad publicity off the project ;)
[15:41:00] sportman: lol
[15:41:00] Juski: laga: I know that.. mebbe Beirdo needs to add a thing to remove certain words from the archive ;)
[15:42:00] laga: Juski: http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/wiki/index.php/FAQ#Le . . . ious_Content :)
[15:43:00] Juski: I been having enough trouble keeping my nose clean the last few days, without talk of dubious subjects
[15:43:00] sportman: lol Dubious
[15:43:00] laga: but i blame that on the flu and not on bittorrent
[15:44:00] Juski: spit-torrent?
[15:44:00] laga: ;)
[15:44:00] laga: eww
[15:44:00] sportman: guys dont worry this channel isnt that bad
[15:44:00] sportman: atleast in this channel you dont have to worry about people going !list and !warez all the time
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[15:44:00] laga: well
[15:44:00] laga: this is freenode. and not dalnet or something else ;)
[15:45:00] sportman: where I op i have to kick people on a regular basis for doing that
[15:45:00] Juski: certainly not undernet ;)
[15:45:00] sportman: dude whe I op its not like that either
[15:45:00] sportman: but people keep coming in hoping it is
[15:45:00] laga: and i'm so glad it's not ircnet, the root of all evil
[15:45:00] Juski: the rootkit of all script-kiddies
[15:45:00] sportman: then on the top it says no Warez any hinting at it or asking for it = kick or ban
[15:45:00] sportman: but people still find it fun to go !warez
[15:45:00] sportman: pisses me off
[15:46:00] laga: MythLogBot: !warez
[15:46:00] laga: darn.
[15:46:00] laga: MythLogBot: !help
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[15:46:00] Juski: wtf?! just left livetv running on BBC2 on SVN & now I see adverts!
[15:46:00] sportman: its on rtype.ca channel #osx86
[15:46:00] sportman: good times in there, kinda died for a while though
[15:46:00] Merlin83b: Juski: I think it may not ben on bbc2 :-)
[15:46:00] sportman: so do you think with debian sarge I should be able to get this going
[15:46:00] laga: sportman: duh. well, with a channel like this, you kinda should expect it. :)
[15:47:00] laga: sportman: well, it worked for me. :)
[15:47:00] Juski: oh yeah.. doh!
[15:47:00] ** Beirdo slaps laga **
[15:47:00] Beirdo: :)
[15:48:00] laga: nice, the logs are realtime. i saw the slap in the logs before i switched back to irssi.
[15:48:00] D-side: Beirdo: happy new year.
[15:48:00] ** sportman slaps laga **
[15:48:00] sportman: :)
[15:48:00] ** laga slaps Beirdo with sportman **
[15:48:00] Beirdo: happy new year, Jersey-boy :)
[15:48:00] Beirdo: err D-side :)
[15:48:00] D-side: indeed.
[15:48:00] laga: yeah, fscking new year. *sigh*
[15:48:00] D-side: headed out to NYC in a bit, gf's got a friend in town.
[15:48:00] ** Juski hands laga some nicotine gum **
[15:48:00] laga: Juski: thanks.
[15:49:00] Beirdo: D-side's off for a 3-way?
[15:49:00] D-side: if it was her friends sister instead of him, yeah i'd be down for that.
[15:49:00] Beirdo: oh
[15:50:00] ** D-side happily fills out a $50 rebate form for his seagate mythtv drive **
[15:50:00] D-side: 400G for $160USD when all is said and done.
[15:50:00] Beirdo: hehe
[15:50:00] Beirdo: good luck with that scam
[15:50:00] Beirdo: :)
[15:51:00] D-side: yeah shush, i know but i dont want to hear it
[15:51:00] D-side: heh
[15:51:00] Juski: seagate? or seagate/maxtor or maxtor/seagate?  ;-/
[15:51:00] D-side: no, honest-to-God seagate.
[15:52:00] Beirdo: Seagate rules
[15:52:00] ** Juski is in the mood for starting a religious HDD debate **
[15:52:00] D-side: quietest damn drive i've ever had. i absolutely want to replace my WD in the workstation with seagates now.
[15:52:00] ** Beirdo high-fives D-side **
[15:52:00] Beirdo: that's so the case ;)
[15:52:00] Kelerion: laga: remember you said you had a script running that made sure mythfrontend was always running? (do while, mythfrontend, loop) etc?
[15:52:00] D-side: Beirdo: its just a shame it took me this damn long to realize.
[15:52:00] Kelerion: do you have it to hand?
[15:52:00] Juski: I got a really quiet HDD in my frontend.. it's in another room
[15:53:00] Beirdo: they are great drives
[15:53:00] Beirdo: I only will buy Seagate :)
[15:53:00] D-side: hrm. i've got like 110gb free on the 400gb's volume group... i should learn how lvm snapshotting works with it
[15:53:00] D-side: Beirdo: from now on, me too.
[15:53:00] Beirdo: worth the extra $5 per drive
[15:56:00] Juski: btw laga: I edited a file on my dbox yesterday & broke it good... needs reflashing. All I did was change one character
[15:57:00] Juski: (and that wasn't a formatting character either)
[15:57:00] Juski: (and I used a proper editor)
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[16:00:00] D-side: hm. is $105 good for a 250gb seagate sata i wonder
[16:01:00] fryfrog: doesn't sound to bad, how much is that per gig?
[16:03:00] sportman: people said this works on 64 bit debian correct?
[16:03:00] Juski: $0.42 per gig.. not bad
[16:07:00] t00m: Juski: i was wrong. it's an asus k7v something motherboard. so it's via chipset i guess
[16:07:00] Juski: I'm using a via kt400 chipset board with no problems
[16:08:00] Juski: gigabyte 7v600t or something
[16:08:00] Juski: even my kt133 chipset board copes with DVB cards ok
[16:08:00] t00m: yeah, it's all my fault
[16:08:00] t00m: it's my special 'no you wont work'-aura
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[16:09:00] Juski: omg – pvr150 down to £40.88 now at scan
[16:09:00] t00m: even if it's working for 10000000 other people
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[16:10:00] Juski: laga: seen coume's announcement about the poker bot?
[16:10:00] Juski: keep yer eyes peeled
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[16:11:00] ** Juski spanks the poker bot **
[16:13:00] sportman: hmm
[16:13:00] sportman: will it work if i do a damn small linux install
[16:13:00] sportman: then use synaptic to upgrade to debian sarge?
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[16:13:00] sportman: do you think myth tv will work in that fine
[16:14:00] sportman: .
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[16:14:00] Juski: heh. I hope y'all realise you're missing 'Grease' on ITV.. LOL
[16:15:00] sportman: we are?
[16:15:00] sportman: :(
[16:15:00] Juski: lol
[16:16:00] Kelerion: I am.. well damn.. what a shame
[16:18:00] laga: Juski: not yet
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[16:27:00] Juski: jees.. never knew adverts had subtitles
[16:29:00] rjune: closed captioning, deaf people buy stuff too
[16:30:00] Juski: judging by the amount of albums James Blunt has sold I guess that's true
[16:31:00] Merlin83b: lol
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[16:37:00] a1fa: :P
[16:37:00] a1fa: 0.19 where r u
[16:37:00] GreyFoxx: It'll be out when it's deemed ready
[16:37:00] a1fa: this is so fucking annoying
[16:37:00] a1fa: my boxor freezes up
[16:37:00] a1fa: randomy
[16:37:00] a1fa: i cant tell what happened
[16:37:00] laga: next to your book "english spelling for beginners"
[16:37:00] a1fa: dmesg gets wiped out
[16:38:00] a1fa: gay
[16:38:00] a1fa: i wonder if it is the bios setting focking it up
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[16:40:00] Juski: teatime
[16:42:00] sportman: hmm ill make someone a deal
[16:42:00] sportman: ill do something for them if they make a hard disk image file
[16:42:00] sportman: or something
[16:42:00] sportman: that i can dd to my partition
[16:43:00] sportman: so i can have a working myth tv box set up
[16:43:00] sportman: any one?
[16:43:00] laga: hehe. good luck with that.
[16:44:00] sportman: guess not
[16:44:00] sportman: :)
[16:46:00] sportman: no one answerds my damn small linux question
[16:46:00] sportman: :(
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[16:48:00] laga: sportman: do it the proper way then.
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[16:49:00] sportman: there is no proper way
[16:49:00] sportman: when nothing works
[16:50:00] sportman: what do you suggest is the proper way laga
[16:51:00] sportman: arent you setting your kubuntu install on fire?
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[16:52:00] laga: sportman: i use debian sarge, but i compile mythtv on my own. i'm afraid there are currently no precompiled packages for debian sarge.
[16:53:00] laga: sportman: do you know the fedora core guide at www.wilsonet.com? that should be enough to get you started.
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[16:55:00] sportman: ah
[16:55:00] sportman: not fedora core again
[16:55:00] sportman: i gotta find that damn dvd
[16:55:00] sportman: im not downloading 4 gigs again :-p
[16:55:00] laga: :P
[16:55:00] Krazylegz: So, which distro would #mythtv-users recommend for someone who has never used Linux before?
[16:56:00] Nichotin: knoppmyth, probably
[16:56:00] Krazylegz: Someone who has never used Linux, but wants to setup a Mythbox.
[16:56:00] Krazylegz: Nichotin: That's what I was thinking.
[16:56:00] laga: Nichotin: go away!! sweet poison :/
[16:56:00] sportman: thats what i figured knoppmyth
[16:56:00] sportman: but bioe
[16:56:00] sportman: nope
[16:56:00] sportman: i cant even boot it up
[16:56:00] laga: yeah, knoppmyth is their best bet, but they're prolly lost if something goes wrong
[16:56:00] sportman: i tried installing twice
[16:56:00] sportman: freggin lilo screws up
[16:56:00] sportman: and i cannot boot toi the partition
[16:56:00] sportman: :X
[16:57:00] laga: hehe
[16:57:00] laga: probably a broken hard disk
[16:57:00] sportman: and I have used linux before
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[16:57:00] sportman: no its not
[16:57:00] sportman: i just installed knoppix on it
[16:57:00] sportman: its not a broken hard disk
[16:57:00] laga: so? doesn't mean it's not broken :)
[16:57:00] sportman: lol
[16:57:00] Krazylegz: Heh, I had that problem once.....hard drive was busted and I couldn't use Lilo anymore.
[16:57:00] Krazylegz: Though, it was fine for everything else.
[16:58:00] sportman: lol
[16:58:00] Nichotin: heh, I tried adding four channels, but no matter which I choose, I get only static, and it jumps back to channel 2
[16:58:00] sportman: but lilo worked when i installed regular knoppix
[16:58:00] sportman: but not when i installed knoppmyth
[16:59:00] Krazylegz: sportman: Wouldn't it have been easier to fix KnoppMyth then?
[16:59:00] sportman: i couldnt figure out how
[16:59:00] sportman: :(
[17:00:00] laga: aptitude install grub? ;)))
[17:00:00] sportman: lol
[17:00:00] sportman: true
[17:00:00] sportman: :(
[17:00:00] sportman: oh well
[17:01:00] ** sportman goes through cd piles **
[17:02:00] sportman: hmm will this compile on darwin?
[17:02:00] sportman: lol, meh idontlike darwin anyways
[17:02:00] Kelerion: anyone seen the latest update to msn messenger?
[17:03:00] Kelerion: "Desktop Search"
[17:03:00] Kelerion: and it installs "tabbed browsing" in msn.. I wonder where they got that idea from?
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[17:04:00] Krazylegz: Desktop Search is like Google's thingie?
[17:04:00] Krazylegz: Google Desktop.
[17:04:00] Kelerion: yup
[17:04:00] Krazylegz: How.....original.
[17:04:00] Kelerion: yup.. lol
[17:05:00] jalex: hd3000 with fc4 and mythtv?
[17:05:00] jalex: axel's rpms suck
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[17:06:00] jalex: compiling mythtv with gcc32 fails on mpeg/mpegstreamdata.cpp – "error: ‘PESPacket’ has not been declared"
[17:07:00] Anyone: Winfast
[17:07:00] Anyone: sorry
[17:07:00] Anyone: I want to examine if a card is working. Its a Hauppage.
[17:07:00] Anyone: lspci has:
[17:07:00] Anyone: 0000:00:0d.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant Winfast TV2000 XP (rev 05)
[17:07:00] Anyone: 0000:00:0d.1 Multimedia controller: Conexant: Unknown device 8811 (rev 05)
[17:09:00] Anyone: Any comments or URLs or stuff will be thankful. I have an URL, but I dunno how to find out which card is this one:
[17:09:00] Anyone: http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Supported_hardware
[17:10:00] Anyone: (Sorry for not bothering to write proper english, I hope I'm making myself understandable just the same).
[17:10:00] jalex: wish I could help – I haven't gotten regular tv cards to work before =)
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[17:10:00] Anyone: regular?
[17:10:00] jalex: versus HD(high-definition)
[17:10:00] Anyone: So, its not a HD?
[17:10:00] Anyone: (Whatever that that is) :)
[17:11:00] jalex: the slackware 9.1 box in the basement doesn't like my bt878 cards, which look similar to the one you have.
[17:11:00] jalex: granted, it's a ppro 180mhz box =(
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[17:12:00] Anyone: This one is faster, 700MHz or so .. (lemme cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep something)
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[17:12:00] Anyone: cpu MHz : 807.224
[17:14:00] sportman: ah, linspire, blag, overclockix, kubuntu, ubuntu, cedega, Caos, gentoo live, morphix, slackware, geexboxx,Xandros,
[17:14:00] sportman: so what should i do this with?
[17:14:00] sportman: im sure i got a few more distros lying around
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[17:14:00] Anyone: jalex, I know next to nothing about tv-cards .. I just bought this one for my father for christmas (that is, I bought a pinnacle, but returned it because it wouldn't work with Debian GNU/Linux Sarge, which he is running)
[17:14:00] laga: cedega is not a distro.
[17:15:00] sportman: xoops sorry
[17:15:00] laga: ;)
[17:15:00] sportman: my bad, i dunno why i wrote that down
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[17:15:00] sportman: cedega is nice though :)
[17:15:00] laga: looks like you have a fine selection of newbie distros ;). i'd say go with ubuntu if that's all you've got, but looks like you don't like it
[17:15:00] Anyone: I understand the gfx card must be able to do something, for the xawtv and scantv to work?
[17:16:00] sportman: yea i dont like it at all
[17:16:00] laga: the gfx card doesn't have to do anything. you probably mean the Tv card :)
[17:17:00] Anyone: ok
[17:17:00] Anyone: I thought the tv-card would do something to the gfx card to show the television.
[17:18:00] Anyone: some extions or something .. but maybe its just recommended features?
[17:18:00] laga: probably Xv overlay, if that's what you mean. but scantv doesn't show any pretty pictures, it just scans.
[17:18:00] Anyone: scantv doesn't work here.
[17:18:00] laga: Anyone: it's a "recommended feature", especially for use with mythtv.
[17:18:00] Anyone: It complains that there are no tuner.
[17:18:00] laga: does xawtv?
[17:18:00] laga: err
[17:18:00] laga: *work
[17:19:00] Anyone: well
[17:19:00] Anyone: it shows some flicker .. but no channels can be found (so far)
[17:19:00] laga: your capture card is set up wrongly, back to the drawing board :)
[17:20:00] Anyone: Which means?
[17:20:00] laga: well, what card is it?
[17:20:00] Anyone: The window looks like when a TV is not tuned into any channel
[17:20:00] Anyone: exept more purple or something.
[17:20:00] laga: oh, like snow or "ant war"
[17:20:00] Anyone: laga its hauppage
[17:20:00] Anyone: year
[17:20:00] Anyone: snow
[17:20:00] laga: what hauppauge? ;)
[17:20:00] Anyone: wintv
[17:20:00] Anyone: pci-fm
[17:21:00] Anyone: model 647
[17:21:00] laga: it's a bttv card then, isn't it?
[17:21:00] Anyone: I don't know .. I guess I hope so?
[17:22:00] Anyone: both tv and radio
[17:22:00] Anyone: laga: how do I find out if its "bttv" ?
[17:22:00] Anyone: lspci says:
[17:22:00] Anyone: 0000:00:0d.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant Winfast TV2000 XP (rev 05)
[17:22:00] Anyone: 0000:00:0d.1 Multimedia controller: Conexant: Unknown device 8811 (rev 05)
[17:22:00] Anyone: 0
[17:22:00] laga: you should find more about your card :) you could look at dmesg. lsmod is a useful debugging tool as well. and google your card to see what you need to do in order to make it work properly
[17:23:00] laga: do you already have a TV card in there?
[17:23:00] Anyone: http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Supported_hardware
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[17:23:00] Anyone: laga, I don't understand? I have a card inserted in the machine, yeah.
[17:23:00] laga: it's not supported by ivtv, i think. that would be one of the hauppauvr pvr x50/500 series
[17:23:00] sportman: so
[17:23:00] sportman: should i try slackware?
[17:24:00] Anyone: oh
[17:24:00] Anyone: laga, so I should return the card?
[17:24:00] laga: Anyone: because it shows "Conexant Winfast TV2000 XP (rev 05)" which is another capture card.
[17:24:00] Baylink: Gidday all. HNY
[17:24:00] laga: Anyone: i didn't say that. i gave you other hints.
[17:24:00] Anyone: (I just returned a pinnacle card which didn't work)
[17:24:00] laga: and i've got to go shopping now, ttyl.
[17:24:00] Baylink: And not, I don't think, a hardware MPEG card.
[17:25:00] Anyone: laga, thanks for your help
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[17:25:00] Anyone: laga, I hope I manage to decrypt it ;-)
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[17:25:00] Anyone: laga, and happy shopping :-)
[17:25:00] Baylink: Whatchu tryin to do, Anyone?
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[17:25:00] Anyone: Baylink, I bought a tv-card for my dad
[17:26:00] Anyone: Baylink, I am trying to get it to work .. but I am told in #Debian that I simply need to upgrade my kernel. I dunno if that is right.
[17:26:00] Anyone: (I was just told that)
[17:27:00] Baylink: The most common type of problem there is "my tuner is too new for my kernel's v4l driver", and yes, upgrading the kernel will often fix that. It's an easy first step, at least.
[17:27:00] sportman: does a slackware install seem reasonable
[17:27:00] sportman: for this?
[17:27:00] Baylink: I dunno, honestly; we run SuSE on ours cause I know it.
[17:28:00] sportman: suse?
[17:28:00] Baylink: Don't see why not, though. Requires a little bit deeper knowledge, I'd suspect.
[17:28:00] Anyone: baylink its a model 647 of WinTV-PCI-FM
[17:28:00] sportman: really, i always found suse to be glitchy
[17:28:00] Baylink: In general, sports, or for Myth?
[17:28:00] sportman: SuSe = more knowledge? are you sure?
[17:28:00] sportman: Myth
[17:28:00] Baylink: No, slack=-more knowledge
[17:28:00] GreyFoxx: Mmm Slackware
[17:28:00] sportman: im going to use myth
[17:28:00] Baylink: Less infrastructure.
[17:29:00] sportman: not really much else
[17:29:00] sportman: i mean to be honest i use OS X mostly
[17:29:00] sportman: so i dont plan on using this as my main computer
[17:29:00] Baylink: Anyone: I'm fairly certain that is not a hardwareMPEG/IVTV card, so yes, upgrading your kernel's where I'd go first. You might actually have to go off-tree for your v4l/v4l2 driver.
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[17:30:00] Anyone: whats hardware?
[17:30:00] Anyone: err
[17:30:00] Anyone: whats hardwarempeg/ivtv?
[17:30:00] Nichotin: what is up when I can change freq manually to see a channel with ivtv-tune, but mythtv wont see any channels at all?
[17:30:00] Baylink: Hapuuage WinTV-PVR cards, AVermedia M179s, and a couple others now, I think.
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[17:31:00] Anyone: Baylink, can I see at the card which one it is? I guess I could turn off the box and look.
[17:31:00] sportman: GreyFoxx your the one who uses slackware correct?
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[17:32:00] GreyFoxx: sportman: I'm hardly the only one, but yes :L)
[17:32:00] Anyone: Baylink, its hauppage WinTV PCI-FM .. model 647
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[17:32:00] Krazylegz: GreyFoxx = Patrick Volkerding. :-P
[17:32:00] GreyFoxx: heh
[17:32:00] Baylink: Yeah; if it doesn't say "PVR" it's not hardware-MPEG
[17:32:00] Anyone: hauppauge WinTV PCI-FM
[17:33:00] Baylink: Aha.  :-)
[17:33:00] sportman: wait so do you or dont you use slackware
[17:33:00] sportman: im lost
[17:33:00] sportman: :(
[17:33:00] Baylink: Hi, Pat. Congrats on the kid, BTW.
[17:33:00] sportman: too much Sarcasm
[17:33:00] Krazylegz: He does.
[17:33:00] GreyFoxx: sportman: Yes I do. Slackware is my Distro of choice
[17:33:00] Anyone: Its connexant
[17:33:00] Baylink: GreyFoxx is the *creator* of Slackware.  :-)
[17:33:00] GreyFoxx: Heh No, just a happy user ;)
[17:33:00] dasOp: that hauppauge is a bt878 iirc
[17:33:00] Baylink: Then Krazy is lying?
[17:33:00] sportman: thatd be cool if he was the distro
[17:34:00] Anyone: oh wait
[17:34:00] sportman: creater
[17:34:00] ** sphing_ is a distro **
[17:34:00] sportman: but too much sarcasm in here to know if its true
[17:34:00] sportman: lol
[17:34:00] Baylink: Krazy: bad IRC user; no chanops.
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[17:34:00] GreyFoxx: Baylink: Lying, Playing, Mistaken,... take your pick
[17:34:00] Krazylegz: Indeed, GreyFoxx is NOT Patrick Volkerding.
[17:34:00] sportman: lol
[17:34:00] Anyone: maybe its model 747 .. I notice a maker that has been added on the box .. maybe they ran out of the model I ordered and gave me a "better" card?
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[17:34:00] Baylink: "GreyFoxx = Patrick Volkerding. :-P" seems fairly unequivocal...
[17:34:00] GreyFoxx: The only distro I "created" lived on 2 of my machines and acouple of my friends :)
[17:34:00] Anyone: Box says soemthing about "softpvr" btw
[17:34:00] jalex: Anyone, if anything it's probably worse =)
[17:35:00] dasOp: anyone: think they use the same driver
[17:35:00] Anyone: jalex, Thats what I fear.
[17:35:00] dasOp: as long as its a fairly recent v4l
[17:35:00] sportman: hmm
[17:35:00] sportman: can i have a copy of that Distro GreyFoxx
[17:35:00] sportman: lol
[17:35:00] Krazylegz: I thought it was funny.
[17:35:00] GreyFoxx: sportman: In the end, yes I am a Slackware user, including for myth
[17:35:00] dasOp: softpvr just means there's no hw mpeg encoding
[17:35:00] sportman: ok, well im attempting a slackware install now
[17:36:00] GreyFoxx: have fun :)
[17:36:00] jalex: Anyone, joking – Dell 20" widescreens had a lot of problems initially, but later versions have some different parts, and they are actually better...so if the older version didn't work very well, it's possible they replaced some parts with better components .
[17:36:00] sportman: for somereason i know something went wrong when i tried to install it last year
[17:36:00] sportman: cause otherwise i would remember what it was liike
[17:36:00] GreyFoxx: Slackware is not real big on "doing it for you" :)
[17:36:00] jalex: Anyone, but if the older version worked fine...
[17:36:00] sphing: sportman: i think you're going to find yourself doing alot of extra work using slackware
[17:39:00] sportman: fine
[17:39:00] sportman: then
[17:39:00] sportman: what do I use
[17:39:00] sportman: other then ubuntu cause god knows i want to break all my ubuntu cd's in half
[17:39:00] eiggirC: this is in my backend log
[17:40:00] eiggirC: Lost connection to MySQL server during query
[17:40:00] Krazylegz: sportman: What is your favorite distro?
[17:40:00] eiggirC: should I be worried ?
[17:40:00] GreyFoxx: I honestly wouldn't know what to pick in your case. I don't use packages, I don't use any of the various "user friendly" distros
[17:40:00] sportman: umm i liked blag the best
[17:41:00] sportman: but it is old and out dated
[17:41:00] eiggirC: debian for me thanks
[17:41:00] sportman: overclockix is nice but the package manager sucked bawls
[17:41:00] sportman: and it had to new of a kernel
[17:41:00] sportman: that lirc wont work with
[17:42:00] sphing: sportman: something with simple packages
[17:42:00] sphing: i use gentoo cause it has the packages, but they're source
[17:42:00] sportman: yea and gentoo doesnt install easy
[17:42:00] sphing: sportman: ubuntu has a pretty serious following
[17:42:00] Krazylegz: Gentoo doesn't install easily?
[17:42:00] Krazylegz: I guess it's very subjective.
[17:43:00] sportman: well i want something that doesnt take 5 hours to install
[17:43:00] sphing: Krazylegz: yea thats a good point... gentoo installer is non existant
[17:43:00] sportman: and you have to follow every step
[17:43:00] sportman: i mean i dont have time
[17:43:00] sportman: im going to install vida linux right now
[17:43:00] Krazylegz: So.....you'd prefer an install with skipable steps?
[17:43:00] sphing: ubuntu or debian
[17:43:00] sportman: its a gentoo based os
[17:43:00] sportman: but it uses anacoda
[17:43:00] sportman: to set up a basic system
[17:43:00] Krazylegz: You can do stage 3 with Gentoo, I don't imagine that takes too long.
[17:43:00] sphing: Krazylegz: i was just thinking
[17:43:00] sportman: thats my favorite OS
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[17:44:00] sportman: its now called VLOS
[17:44:00] sportman: 1.1
[17:44:00] Krazylegz: sportman: What about if you do Gentoo with binary packages to start?
[17:44:00] Krazylegz: Unless that's exactly what Vida is.
[17:44:00] Juski: use a stage3 & a packages CD
[17:44:00] Juski: almost as quick as using a total binary distro ;)
[17:44:00] sportman: really?
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[17:45:00] sportman: want to link me
[17:45:00] Juski: oh fucking hell
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[17:45:00] Juski: want me to send a HDD over instead?
[17:45:00] sphing: lol @ Juski
[17:45:00] sportman: yes
[17:45:00] sportman: i would :)
[17:45:00] sportman: hold on ill show you guys what VLOS 1.1. is
[17:45:00] Krazylegz: Yeah, they call it Gentoo Stage3 + GRP, I think.
[17:46:00] sportman: http://www.vidalinux.com/
[17:47:00] Krazylegz: sportman: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2005.1/ . . . 6.xml?full=1
[17:47:00] Krazylegz: Check section 1.b.
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[17:48:00] sphing: sportman: arent you 64bit?
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[17:48:00] sportman: yea i am 64bit
[17:48:00] sportman: but im just going to use a regular one
[17:49:00] sportman: wait is vlos fine?
[17:49:00] sphing: :: baffled look ::
[17:49:00] sportman: or you guys want me to do a stage three install
[17:49:00] Krazylegz: sportman: We want you to do whatever makes you happy. :-)
[17:49:00] sphing: for someone who doesn't have enough time, you've been debating a distro for like 20 mins
[17:50:00] sportman: yea
[17:50:00] sportman: true
[17:50:00] sportman: lol ilike vlos for now
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[17:52:00] bhobw: does anyone know if I can get mythtv to record direct video input via a nvidia ti4800se – i know rivatv will record input from this card (in theory)
[17:52:00] bhobw: i want to use mythtv to backup programs from my sky+
[17:54:00] bhobw: i believe nvidia capture is pretty poor under linux at the mo -
[18:02:00] Anyone: bhobw, I have no idea, sorry.
[18:02:00] Anyone: bhobw, I am here to gain help myself.
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[18:03:00] bhobw: Anyone: np
[18:03:00] sportman: ah wow Vlos is just stage three lol
[18:04:00] sphing: bhobw: im pretty sure you are right, nvidia captuer isnt very good
[18:05:00] Anyone: sphing, maybe that is my problem then, there happen to be nvidia in this box!
[18:05:00] Anyone: 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV15 [GeForce2 GTS/Pro] (rev a3)
[18:05:00] sphing: Anyone: whats your problem?
[18:11:00] Anyone: hauppage tv-card
[18:11:00] Anyone: pci-fm
[18:11:00] Anyone: 646 or 747
[18:11:00] Anyone: err
[18:11:00] Anyone: 647 or 747
[18:12:00] Anyone: hmm
[18:12:00] Anyone: it says the gfx card needs to support windows direct draw .. what means that?
[18:14:00] laga: Anyone: darn. you have issues with your TV card and not with your GFX card.
[18:14:00] laga: if you get snow, your gfx card should be fine
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[18:16:00] jalex: is there arts support in mythtv source, or is it just in the configure output for kicks?
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[18:23:00] sportman: this is funny
[18:23:00] sportman: i finally get a nice os installed
[18:23:00] sportman: and i cant get wireless working
[18:23:00] sportman: :)
[18:23:00] sportman: yey
[18:24:00] sphing: lol...
[18:24:00] sphing: whats your wireless card
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[18:26:00] sportman: Netgear
[18:26:00] sportman: it worked in knoppix
[18:26:00] sportman: and ubuntu
[18:26:00] sportman: wahts the command to bring the card up
[18:26:00] sportman: ifconfig eth1 up
[18:27:00] sphing: :: baffled look again ::
[18:27:00] sportman: ?
[18:27:00] sphing: iwconfig is for wireless
[18:27:00] sphing: http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/
[18:27:00] jalex: my netgear MA401 blew up because of ubuntu
[18:28:00] jalex: hasn't worked since
[18:29:00] Juski: linux distro ate my hamster – shock!
[18:29:00] Anyone: Whats mythtv?
[18:29:00] jalex: it could have just 'gone bad' oh well
[18:29:00] laga: Anyone: duh.
[18:29:00] sportman: well the thing is
[18:29:00] Juski: what's a troll?
[18:29:00] laga: Anyone: what the hell are you doing in here then?
[18:29:00] jalex: Anyone, a piece of crap with a sexy body that lures you in
[18:29:00] sportman: i got a feeling my pcmia isnt working
[18:29:00] ** Anyone notice the name of the channel. **
[18:29:00] sportman: or someting
[18:30:00] Anyone: laga: I was lured in here by "spew".
[18:30:00] sphing: sportman: what distro did you install?
[18:30:00] ** laga gets a feeling we've got lots of trolls in here **
[18:30:00] sportman: vida
[18:30:00] sportman: basically stage 3 install
[18:30:00] sportman: of gentoo
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[18:31:00] Anyone: laga, he gave me the impression you could help me with the tv-card.
[18:32:00] sportman: w.e.
[18:32:00] sportman: i got hw
[18:32:00] sportman: bbl
[18:32:00] laga: Anyone: this is not the right place. we're discussing a software called mythtv here :)
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[18:33:00] laga: Anyone: and, umm. well. i told you to go to google and search for your card, i'm sure some howtows would have shoed up then. so this wouldn't be the right channel for you even if you used mythtv because you don't listen
[18:33:00] Anyone: laga: You seem to be quite knowledgeable about tv-hardsware though.
[18:34:00] sphing: laga its always you man...
[18:34:00] Anyone: laga: Oh .. I can google .. just not on this box ... I'm not very good at it though.
[18:34:00] laga: Anyone: yeah, because we use them on a daily base. though this is not the main aim of this channel
[18:34:00] laga: Anyone: http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/wiki/
[18:34:00] laga: sphing: pff
[18:34:00] Anyone: laga, thanks .. I did ask because I was wondering wether mythtv was an interesting program for me.
[18:34:00] laga: Anyone: oh, it's very interesting :)
[18:35:00] Anyone: 2.1 What is the best Linux distribution to use for MythTV?
[18:36:00] Krazylegz: The one you are most comfortable with.
[18:36:00] laga: Krazylegz: stop answering the FAQ
[18:36:00] Krazylegz: Haha.
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[18:37:00] Tired_: Hello, and happy new year.  :)
[18:37:00] Krazylegz: 2006: Year of the Myth.
[18:37:00] corpix_: Tired_: that wasnt mythtv realted !
[18:37:00] Tired_: Does anyone here have experience running MythTV backend on an older dual-processor system?
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[18:38:00] laga: yeah. shame on you.
[18:38:00] Tired_: I thought I'd be polite first...(mythtv) Better?  :P
[18:39:00] ** laga gives corpix_ a dirty look and goes away **
[18:40:00] Tired_: I was wondering if the dual-processor will have any effect on the performance, or should i just install it on a basically identical box I have here with a single processor at the same speed.
[18:40:00] Anyone: Tired_, sorry no.
[18:40:00] Tired_: lol
[18:41:00] Tired_: Anyone other than 'Anyone', I guess I meant.
[18:41:00] stoffel_: Tired_: 2xPIII@850MHz are faster than a single PIII@850MHz for sure
[18:41:00] Anyone: Eh?
[18:41:00] stoffel_: but probably not as fast as a PIII@1.6GHz
[18:41:00] sphing: Tired_: while I have no experience, I would imagine a dual would greatly improve some mythtv tasks like commflagging
[18:41:00] Tired_: these are p3@550, but it shouldn't matter unless myth is optimized for threading, if I understand it correctly.
[18:42:00] sphing: Tired_: myth certainly uses threading
[18:42:00] Anyone: Tired_ other than 'Tired_', I guess I meant. !?
[18:42:00] Tired_: cool! I get to dig the old workhorse out of the closet then  :D
[18:42:00] sphing: Tired_: i think that joke went over his head
[18:43:00] Tired_: Anyone -> I was assuming a pun based on what i said and your nick. Sorry to have disturbed you.  :)
[18:43:00] Anyone: Tired_, right, a pun. :-)
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[18:45:00] Tired_: typically, is it easier to use the remote that comes with a hauppage PVR-150 for lirc with myth, or should I use the separate remote I have from Snapstream?
[18:45:00] sphing: Tired_: if i remember correctly the Snapstream remote is real nice
[18:45:00] Tired_: it is, but i've never tried it in linux
[18:45:00] Tired_: just got it for xmas
[18:45:00] sphing: id give that a shot regardless of the hauppauge remotes ease
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[18:46:00] Tired_: well, since the hauppage remote is tied to the tv card, I was hoping to avoid using the USB one, since I'm currently using that on the box in the bedroom.
[18:47:00] Tired_: but, in six months, I've never gotten lirc to play nicely with the hauppage remote
[18:47:00] Anyone: I guess I should upgrade the kernel and come back.
[18:47:00] sphing: Tired_: the receiver looks alot like my niveus remote... which GreyFoxx wrote a driver for
[18:47:00] sphing: Tired_: is it rf or ir?
[18:47:00] Tired_: which one?
[18:47:00] Anyone: darn
[18:47:00] sphing: firefly
[18:47:00] Tired_: firefly is rf
[18:47:00] Anyone: I lost the scroll of laga ... is it already on WEB?
[18:48:00] Krazylegz: Yes.
[18:48:00] Krazylegz: Log online is live.
[18:48:00] Anyone: cool
[18:48:00] sphing: Tired_: it seems to be a clone of my niveus remote... so i would image you could get some functionality of the niveus remote... although the drivers isnt lirc.. it acts a keyboard and mouse
[18:49:00] sphing: (not implying that firefly copied from niveus)
[18:49:00] Tired_: really? odd. these's no keyboard-type keys on the remote itself.
[18:49:00] Tired_: i assume you have to make macros in the conf file...
[18:49:00] sphing: Tired_: like the numbers
[18:49:00] sphing: its as if you were pushing numbers on a keyboard
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[18:49:00] Tired_: ah. that seems a waste of the functionality of the remote.
[18:50:00] Anyone: kinda sucks that xchat cuts the scrollback though.
[18:50:00] Tired_: unless you can reassign the keys
[18:50:00] sphing: yea kinda... but it works... so i'm not complaining
[18:50:00] sphing: Tired_: well the good thing is, theres no lirc to mess around with
[18:51:00] Tired_: does it talk nicely to myth? like one touch record, pause, etc?
[18:51:00] sphing: its like if you had your keyboard
[18:51:00] sphing: its just like the ati all-in wonder remote
[18:52:00] Tired_: weird. my kb has 104 keys, and the remote has 47...
[18:52:00] sphing: so if they had a lirc driver for that it'd probably work, but I've never even searched
[18:52:00] Tired_: i don't buy ati, so i'd never know
[18:52:00] sphing: Tired_: yes, but i'm saying it linux thinks of it as a 47 key usb keyboard
[18:52:00] ** Tired_ tries to wrap his head around that. **
[18:52:00] jalex: ati is run by complete idiots
[18:53:00] jalex: if you don't agree, go buy the ATI HDTV Wonder and then tell me how you feel =)
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[18:53:00] Tired_: i just prefer to buy something that will work as well in any OS. so I stick with cross-platform-supported stuff
[18:53:00] sphing: ... dont you already have the firefly?
[18:53:00] Tired_: xmas gift
[18:54:00] sphing: right
[18:54:00] Tired_: you don't get to pick those
[18:54:00] sphing: thats my point...
[18:54:00] sphing: you already have it
[18:54:00] Tired_: oh, right
[18:55:00] jalex: the HDTV Wonder doesn't even work in windows...really really bad product
[18:55:00] Tired_: really?
[18:55:00] Tired_: that's funny
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[18:58:00] Anyone: only dead fish uses ms-windows.
[18:58:00] sphing: OT: whats a good video editing program
[18:59:00] Juski: sphing: on what OS? I swear by Sony Vegas (as opposed to swear _at_ )
[18:59:00] Juski: Anyone: stop being trollish
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[18:59:00] Anyone: trollish?
[18:59:00] Anyone: Juski, oh .. I wasn't trollish, I was funni. :-)
[19:00:00] Anyone: Is mythtv supporting the platform we do not speak of?
[19:00:00] Kelerion: I've never used Sony Vegas.. it's good?
[19:00:00] Juski: "only dead fish uses ms-windows"... it still has its uses for lame things like serious video editing
[19:00:00] Juski: Kelerion: so good I bought it
[19:00:00] sphing: Juski: linux
[19:00:00] sphing: thats what reminded me, adobe premiere was quite nice
[19:00:00] Juski: a linux video editor with decent features that doesn't crash much.. hmm
[19:00:00] Kelerion: $449?? ouch
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[19:01:00] Juski: Kelerion: kind of a serious hobby
[19:01:00] Kelerion: well.. justifiable then :)
[19:01:00] Juski: and I don't even own my own camcorder
[19:01:00] Juski: can't afford one now lol
[19:01:00] Kelerion: I bet.. lol
[19:01:00] jalex: kino is good
[19:02:00] linagee: Juski: go buy a 3CCD camera. :)
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[19:02:00] Juski: linagee: that's my plan someday
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[19:03:00] Anyone: hey ley low
[19:04:00] Juski: there's another linux vid editing package I read about but can't remember its name..
[19:04:00] Anyone: Juski, why don't you write then?
[19:04:00] Tired_: LIVES?
[19:04:00] Juski: why don't I write a video editing app? lol
[19:04:00] Anyone: haha
[19:04:00] Juski: I'm too busy
[19:04:00] Tired_: what kinda editing?
[19:04:00] Anyone: Juski, aren
[19:04:00] Anyone: Juski, aren't we all, old chap?
[19:05:00] Juski: busy editing weather-ui.xml actually
[19:05:00] linagee: Juski: write a video editing app
[19:05:00] Tired_: linear, nonlinear, multiple input formats, etc?
[19:05:00] linagee: Juski: call it "Video Editing by Juski"
[19:05:00] Tired_: xml carries video?
[19:05:00] linagee: Tired_: no, no! that would be terribly bloated!
[19:06:00] Juski: yeh uuencode the video & wrap it in xml :)
[19:06:00] Tired_: i thought so, not to mention making ajax into suck
[19:07:00] simplebob: i keep getting "unable to initialize video" and in my log "Not compiled with any usable video output method" but i can watch video with xine...
[19:07:00] simplebob: anybody come across this?
[19:07:00] linagee: Juski: don't forget to rot13 it
[19:07:00] linagee: Juski: call it Juskiformat
[19:08:00] Tired_: simplebob -> I currently record video in a format Myth can't read, but mplayer reads it fine, oddly. haven't been smart enough yet to check the logs...
[19:08:00] linagee: Juski: make a few programs that ONLY work with that format so people will be stuck with it
[19:08:00] Tired_: haven't been smart enough = have been too drunk lately
[19:09:00] Juski: what? like Real, Apple & Windows do? never!
[19:09:00] simplebob: sigh..
[19:09:00] Kelerion: any idea, why a backend would say "Skipping Job – not allowed to run on this backend"? it sounds pretty descriptive but I can't find any reference to fixing it
[19:09:00] jalex: adobe premiere elements is actually pretty good < 100$. I use kino in linux and it works fine and supports more formats than adobe.
[19:09:00] Tired_: is your backend set to restict the jobs it is permitted to perform?
[19:10:00] Kelerion: nope.. found that option and it's the only related option I could find
[19:10:00] Tired_: got me, then  :/
[19:11:00] Tired_: is the file from last year?
[19:11:00] Tired_: er, the job rather?
[19:11:00] Kelerion: nope.. last night.. just re-installed backend and frontend two days ago from svn
[19:12:00] Tired_: definitely got me, then. i don't even know how to use svn
[19:12:00] Kelerion: okies.. thanks anyways :)
[19:13:00] Tired_: you shouldn't listen to me though
[19:13:00] Tired_: i'm the stupidest one here.
[19:13:00] Tired_: just talkative
[19:14:00] Kelerion: and it's nothing to do with the user running the backend and frontend matching.. have tried that too
[19:15:00] Kelerion: I bet I can found out from the db
[19:16:00] ** Kelerion goes to check **
[19:16:00] Tired_: said job, is it one of the User Job #x's?
[19:16:00] Kelerion: yup
[19:16:00] Anyone: He has a book too, right?
[19:16:00] Tired_: seems to me they can be restricted in the setup for a backend
[19:16:00] jalex: I might as well use the svn version – 0.18.1 doesn't compile worth squat
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[19:17:00] Tired_: is your allow user job #x to run on this backend selected?
[19:20:00] Tired_: hey, has anyone tried the myth frontend for windows? I've seen it floating around, and wondered if it was at all useful...
[19:20:00] GreyFoxx: Tired_: Most find it buggy, and lacking in features
[19:20:00] Tired_: thought as much
[19:20:00] GreyFoxx: and I don't know if it works with SVN
[19:20:00] Kelerion: Tired_: that was it.. missed the option on the previous screen.. thanks :)
[19:20:00] Tired_: wow, you mean I actually knew something??
[19:20:00] ** Tired_ faints **
[19:20:00] Kelerion: yup yup :)
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[19:21:00] Tired_: glad we could help
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[19:28:00] Anyone: Tired_, no, I don't really run ms-windows myself, actually.
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[19:36:00] ** Juski has just read his email **
[19:39:00] Juski: thank heaven for junk mail filters
[19:39:00] Juski: eew
[19:40:00] jonK: if it weren't for the spam though, i'd never get any email at all
[19:40:00] jonK: so lonely...
[19:41:00] Juski: something new for the filter: "click here to see videos of women _brushing their teeth_". steady, neddy
[19:42:00] Fitzsimmons: oh man
[19:42:00] Fitzsimmons: what's the link
[19:42:00] Fitzsimmons: tell me
[19:42:00] sphing: lol
[19:43:00] Juski: is there no end to the depravity?
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[19:45:00] rjune: you don't find women brushing their teeth to be as sexy as it gets?
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[19:45:00] Juski: no answer to that one, rjune
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[19:49:00] jonK: yes, i need help to find porn on the internet, if only someone would send links
[19:49:00] tdb30_: can someone help me set up mythtv so I can connect to it from a remote pc? I keep getting an error Can't connect to mysql server.
[19:49:00] jonK: what have you done to configure mysql
[19:50:00] jonK: on the backend
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[19:50:00] Juski: tdb30_: uncomment the line in my.cnf that says "skip networking"
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[19:51:00] tdb30_: arg. apparantly thy got rid of skip-networking and now use bind-address = 127.0.0.1
[19:52:00] jonK: yes, so comment that line out
[19:52:00] redline-: comment out bind address
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[19:52:00] sphing: for the record, there is a noticeable difference between reiser and xfs
[19:52:00] redline-: xfs faster?
[19:53:00] sphing: yes
[19:53:00] redline-: nice
[19:53:00] jonK: I've really liked jfs
[19:53:00] tdb30_: still get the same error
[19:53:00] sphing: ESPECIALLY on deletion of big files
[19:53:00] jonK: did you restart the mysql server?
[19:53:00] tdb30_: I did a reload
[19:54:00] redline-: what bitrate should I set my mythtv to? I am on a HD cable tv 55inch
[19:54:00] jonK: is the mysql daemon visible to the remote machine?
[19:54:00] tdb30_: do I have to add the remote user and machine to the backends mythtv database?
[19:55:00] jonK: if your asking about mysql user permissions, yes,
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[19:56:00] jonK: check out the docs for chapter 6
[19:56:00] jonK: xris, do you mind feedback on mythweb?
[19:58:00] xris: jonK: no
[19:58:00] xris: anyone here speak dutch? I need a slang translation
[19:58:00] jonK: no, but i could email someone
[19:58:00] redline-: www.babblefish.com
[19:59:00] jonK: xris, generally mythweb is fantastic, but there is one thing I don't like that might be an easy change
[19:59:00] xris: redline-: doubt it'll do slang
[19:59:00] jonK: i often go through the schedule and open new tabs for shows i want to set to record
[19:59:00] xris: (ie. double meanings)
[19:59:00] redline-: got yea
[19:59:00] Juski: rebootay computeray, sha'mone
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[20:00:00] jonK: then as i switch from tab to tab and select the "record this showing" radio button, i have to scroll down to the update button
[20:00:00] jonK: I hardly ever change any of the advnaced options, and generally they are just in the way
[20:00:00] jonK: if these could be moved into a hierarchy display, or have the update button moved up to be right below the main groupd of radio buttons,
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[20:01:00] jonK: thoughts?
[20:01:00] xris: would be hard to get that to look right from a UI standpoint
[20:01:00] xris: definitely a good idea, though
[20:02:00] xris: if I did something like that, I'd probably just hide the advanced stuff and use javascript to show it.
[20:02:00] xris: will have to play around with layouts
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[20:05:00] xris: I'm starting to worry less about forcing javascript support. want to create a "minimal" theme designed for text and no-js browsers.
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[20:06:00] Anyone: scantv finds some channels now.
[20:07:00] Anyone: apt-get install mythtv ; apt-get --purge remove xawtv # ?
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[20:08:00] Anyone: cx88[0]: ioctl 0x4004560e (v4l2, -w, VIDIOC_PREVIEW)
[20:08:00] Anyone: CORE IOCTL: 0xc054561d
[20:08:00] Anyone: (From dmesg)
[20:11:00] Juski: right that's one more theme element done. time to call it a day
[20:14:00] tdb30_: How do I see if I have the mysql set up properly for a remote user? I do a select user(); and it just shows root@localhost
[20:14:00] Anyone: Juski, happy new year :)
[20:15:00] xris: tdb30_: you can "use mysql" and poke around the various tables.
[20:15:00] xris: dunno a clean way. maybe phpmyadmin would have something
[20:15:00] tdb30_: I'm realy not good with mysql.
[20:16:00] mrd`: Is my understanding of the differences in the WinTV cards correct: PVR-150 is just a tuner, PVR-250 adds a MPEG encoder, PVR-350 adds an MPEG decoder and TV out, and PVR-500 is basically two PVR-250s in one?
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[20:17:00] Anyone: I think this card is better than the one I returned .. and I lack so little to get it working!
[20:17:00] stoffel_: no, the pvr150/250 both have tuners and encoders, the pvr150 is just cheaper and doesn't have a radio tuner iirc
[20:17:00] Anyone: Worth trying if it works with mythtv when it doesn't work with xawtv?
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[20:17:00] Fitzsimmons: Anyone: probably not
[20:18:00] Anyone: Whats mythtv package called anyhow? I tried apt-get install mythtv – with no success I might add.
[20:19:00] mrd`: stoffel_: Oh, yeah, the PVR-150 page does mention having an MPEG encoder, just their overview page made me think it didn't. Is that the only thing I missed though?
[20:19:00] Anyone: cx8800 is that a device for mythtv?
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[20:19:00] stoffel_: i think so
[20:19:00] mrd`: stoffel_: Cool, thanks.
[20:20:00] xris: Anyone: best to get software encoder cards working in xawtv first
[20:20:00] Anyone: scantv finds the channels with the new kernel .. but now I cannot watch.
[20:21:00] Anyone: before I could at least watch snow – now its just black screen.
[20:22:00] Anyone: scantv was complaining that there was no /dev/dvb or something.
[20:23:00] Juski: Anyone: just thinking you might like this as your remote: http://www.sachsreport.com/gangsta%20gadgets% . . . rototype.jpg
[20:23:00] Anyone: is there a better channel to ask newbee questions about this btw?
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[20:23:00] Anyone: Juski, at least that was funny. :-)
[20:24:00] Anyone: I am tired, and I might be asking stupid questions .. but its hard to believe you don't have any suggestions at all. :-)
[20:25:00] xris: Anyone: I use fedora.. when I plugged in my bttv card, it just worked.
[20:25:00] Juski: Anyone: what card have you got?
[20:25:00] Juski: scantv would only complain about not being able to find /dev/dvb if it was looking for a dvb card
[20:26:00] Anyone: Juski, it seems to be a cx88xx card
[20:26:00] xris: Anyone: no brand?
[20:26:00] Anyone: vbi: open failed [/dev/vbi]
[20:26:00] Anyone: open /dev/vbi: No such file or directory
[20:26:00] Anyone: hauppauge
[20:26:00] Juski: I have a cx88 card here – just worked in ubuntu the other day
[20:26:00] Juski: hauppauge _what_ though?
[20:26:00] Anyone: Juski, sorry .. not dvb, vbi
[20:26:00] Anyone: Juski, PCI-FM
[20:27:00] Juski: methinks you are short of a driver
[20:27:00] Anyone: model 647 or 747
[20:27:00] Juski: k
[20:27:00] Anyone: I just replaced the kernel.
[20:27:00] Anyone: lspci seems to make sense now.
[20:27:00] Juski: Anyone: if you're using ubuntu you need to make sure you've got the multiverse repository
[20:28:00] Juski: cos that's where mythtv is ;)
[20:28:00] Anyone: Juski, I'm debian.
[20:28:00] Anyone: using
[20:28:00] Juski: same diff, innit?
[20:28:00] Anyone: I'm using debian GNU/Linux sarge
[20:28:00] Anyone: ahh
[20:28:00] Anyone: multiverse?
[20:28:00] Juski: aye
[20:29:00] Anyone: can I paste stuff from lspci here, btw?
[20:29:00] Juski: in a pastebin
[20:29:00] Juski: and lspci is pretty irrelevant
[20:29:00] Anyone: url?
[20:29:00] Juski: pastebin.com
[20:29:00] Anyone: oh ok
[20:29:00] Anyone: I thought that would tell which card
[20:29:00] Juski: not necessarily
[20:29:00] Anyone: nah .. it doesn't make sense .. looked nice when I booted though.
[20:29:00] xris: Anyone: dunno if debian has mythtv... maybe in unstable
[20:29:00] Juski: the kernel I first got my dvb cards going on listed em as generic capture cards
[20:30:00] Anyone: 0000:00:0d.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant Winfast TV2000 XP (rev 05)
[20:30:00] Anyone: 0000:00:0d.1 Multimedia controller: Conexant: Unknown device 8811 (rev 05)
[20:30:00] Juski: heh
[20:30:00] Anyone: same as before ..
[20:30:00] Juski: like I said
[20:30:00] Anyone: maybe the chip cx8811 ?
[20:30:00] mrd`: (Even if Debian has a mythtv package, they don't have any sections called multiverse---that's an Ubuntu-only naming convention. Debian's are called main, non-free, and contrib.)
[20:30:00] Juski: lspci is good for seeing the device is _there_
[20:30:00] mrd`: -
[20:30:00] mrd`: Er, wrong window.
[20:30:00] Anyone: Juski, ahh ok
[20:30:00] Anyone: Juski, which tool do I use next?
[20:31:00] tdb30_: QMYSQL3: Unable to connect
[20:31:00] tdb30_: Database error was:
[20:31:00] tdb30_: Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'192.168.0.4'
[20:31:00] Juski: cheers for that nugget, mrd`
[20:31:00] Juski: tdb30_: check the mythtv docs about using more than one frontend
[20:32:00] Juski: Anyone: try to find a wiki or howto guide for bttv capture cards in Debian
[20:32:00] Juski: it's just a case of loading some modules usually
[20:32:00] Anyone: cx8811 isn't bttv though, is it?
[20:32:00] tdb30_: I'm reading it now and I think I did everything it said, but when I do grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"%" identified by "mythtv"; nothing seems to happen
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[20:32:00] Anyone: juski: cx8811 isn't bttv though, is it?
[20:32:00] Anyone: Juski, lsmod makes sense maybe
[20:32:00] Juski: no it's cx88
[20:32:00] Juski: almost the same
[20:32:00] xris: tdb30_: FLUSH PRIVILEGES
[20:32:00] Anyone: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_pac . . . ;release=all
[20:33:00] tdb30_: I did flush privilges and I still get the error
[20:33:00] daniel_bergamini: anyone know if there is an xconfig script that detects modelines under knoppmyth?
[20:33:00] xris: tdb30_: try using the actual IP instead of "%"
[20:33:00] xris: % should work, though
[20:33:00] daniel_bergamini: I'm having a bitch of a time getting my "1280x768" lcd tv working via vga
[20:34:00] tdb30_: how do I look at the users list to see if its even in there?
[20:34:00] Anyone: i2c_core 21904 8 tda9887,tuner,cx88xx,i2c_algo_bit,tveeprom,i2c_viapro,via686a,i2c_isa
[20:34:00] Anyone: daniel_bergamini, I have no idea at all, sorry.
[20:34:00] daniel_bergamini: heh I wasn't talking to you specifically anyone
[20:34:00] daniel_bergamini: but thanks
[20:35:00] Anyone: daniel_bergamini, np.
[20:35:00] xris: daniel_bergamini: with the plasma at work, I just ran X -configure and it picked up all the necessary settings.
[20:35:00] daniel_bergamini: hmmm
[20:35:00] Anyone: Juski, maybe I should give up for now?
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[20:36:00] Anyone: videodev 9280 3 cx8800,cx88xx
[20:36:00] Anyone: (from lsmod
[20:37:00] Juski: hmmm
[20:37:00] Juski: do an ls /dev |grep video
[20:37:00] daniel_bergamini: should an "init 4" be sufficient to kill X so I can -configure?
[20:38:00] Anyone: ~# ls /dev|grep video
[20:38:00] Anyone: video0
[20:38:00] daniel_bergamini: it doesn't seem to want to switch to init 4
[20:38:00] Juski: Anyone.. that's good
[20:38:00] Anyone: :)
[20:38:00] Juski: maybe vbi isn't supported on cx88 yet
[20:39:00] Anyone: OK
[20:39:00] Juski: or just not in your kernel version
[20:39:00] Anyone: So, does that mean I cannot use the card, or can I skip vbi or something?
[20:39:00] Juski: or maybe you need that module too
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[20:39:00] Merlin83b: Oh dear. I just told mythweb to add 2 minutes to the end of something to be recorded in a while and it's forgotten about recording anything ever again.
[20:40:00] Merlin83b: Guess I'll be playing in a bit :-)
[20:40:00] Anyone: /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-k7/kernel/drivers/media/video/btcx-risc.ko
[20:40:00] Anyone: its using that module .. I was assuming that maybe its simulating bttv
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[20:41:00] Juski: do you have the i2c modules in there too? think you'll need them to do tuning & such
[20:41:00] Anyone: yeah
[20:41:00] Anyone: lemme paste on pastebin
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[20:41:00] Juski: Merlin83b: unusual
[20:41:00] Merlin83b: Juski: Annoying, too.
[20:41:00] Merlin83b: Can't restart backend right now as it's recording.
[20:42:00] Juski: got another tuner?
[20:42:00] Merlin83b: Interesting question. It thought I had the one DVB tuner and another v4l tuner. I removed the v4l from the database as I only have dvb.
[20:42:00] Juski: ah right
[20:42:00] Merlin83b: Did I break it?
[20:43:00] Merlin83b: (I'm guessing yes)
[20:43:00] Juski: I doubt it
[20:43:00] Merlin83b: Couldn't find anything referencing cardid 2
[20:43:00] Anyone: http://pastebin.com/487608
[20:43:00] Anyone: Juski, http://pastebin.com/487608
[20:44:00] Anyone: Juski, I tried to highlight some intereting lines
[20:44:00] Merlin83b: Oh crap, so I deleted the wrong one.
[20:44:00] Merlin83b: I did break it.
[20:44:00] Juski: Anyone: that looks okay to me
[20:44:00] ** Merlin83b hits head on table. **
[20:44:00] Juski: try tvtime, xawtv or similar, Anyone
[20:44:00] Anyone: Juski, tvtime .. I tried xawtv
[20:45:00] Juski: and?
[20:45:00] Anyone: errors
[20:45:00] Anyone: something about ioctls
[20:45:00] Juski: pop the errors into a pastebin
[20:45:00] Anyone: yeah
[20:45:00] Anyone: trying to get them in english
[20:45:00] Anyone: they keep being in danish
[20:46:00] Anyone: lemme ask in #Debian
[20:47:00] Merlin83b: Juski: Could I get you to pastebin the output of mysql -D mythconverg -e "SELECT * FROM capturecard"
[20:48:00] Anyone: http://pastebin.com/487612
[20:48:00] Juski: http://pastebin.com/487613
[20:48:00] Merlin83b: Excellent, thank you.
[20:49:00] Juski: Anyone: no idea what's up there
[20:49:00] Merlin83b: Woo
[20:49:00] Anyone: Juski, so my error is uncommon?
[20:49:00] Juski: you added the tuner back in, Merlin? sneaky get!
[20:49:00] Juski: :)
[20:49:00] Merlin83b: Well done mythtv for coping with me breaking the database with no crashing!
[20:49:00] Merlin83b: I did :-)
[20:50:00] Juski: Anyone: I've never seen it before, but thats not to say it's uncommon
[20:50:00] Juski: Anyone: it might be one for #v4l
[20:50:00] Juski: guys in there are very helpful, I've found
[20:50:00] Anyone: ok
[20:50:00] Anyone: :-)
[20:51:00] Anyone: Juski, tvtime .. doesn't seem very ... eurpean .. no PAL, only NTSC?
[20:51:00] Juski: tvtime can do PAL
[20:51:00] Juski: you could always try VLC.. that does tuner card stuff
[20:52:00] ** Juski has drunk 7 pints of water today.. is there no end to this? agh **
[20:52:00] Merlin83b: 7 pints is rather a lot.
[20:52:00] Juski: got cold.. feel so thirsty
[20:53:00] Anyone: I wonder what PAL to use .. xawtv == PAL-DK
[20:53:00] daniel_bergamini: ok seriously, how does one kill X?
[20:54:00] Merlin83b: daniel_bergamini: From in it or command line?
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[20:54:00] daniel_bergamini: either
[20:54:00] daniel_bergamini: thinking command line is more handy
[20:54:00] Merlin83b: ctrl-alt-backspace
[20:54:00] Merlin83b: Oh.
[20:54:00] daniel_bergamini: and no mouse currently connected but ctrl-alt-backstace relaunches
[20:55:00] Anyone: hmm .. v4l is dead right now.
[20:55:00] Merlin83b: Under KnoppMyth, /etc/init.d/gdm stop does the trick.
[20:55:00] Anyone: Juski, I'll try VLC
[20:55:00] Merlin83b: Something similar may work for you.
[20:55:00] Juski: I'm gonna try going for a lie down
[20:55:00] Juski: laters all
[20:55:00] Merlin83b: Seeya, thanks for your help today :-)
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[20:56:00] daniel_bergamini: sweet
[20:57:00] daniel_bergamini: thank you Merlin83b
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[20:57:00] Merlin83b: np
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[21:00:00] Kury: Anyone know how to make a custom DVD from varouse mpeg & avi's I have?
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[21:04:00] tdb30_: well. Thats all better. now, can someone tell me how to get it to work with arts? when I start it it says /dev/dsp is in use. Of course it is because artsd is running.
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[21:05:00] Anyone: Kury, I have absolutely no idea, sorry.
[21:05:00] corpix_: Kury: yes, tovid.sourceforge.net
[21:05:00] jonK: i went out for lunch — tbd30 you get your database problem solved?
[21:05:00] Anyone: !seen someone
[21:06:00] corpix_: Kury: it can create dvd menus with pics and stuff out of your video files
[21:06:00] corpix_: pretty good documentation though
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[21:10:00] jemarcks_: hmm... mythfrontend seems to have a memory leak. After 22 days of uptime, mythfrontend has used 260M of memory. anybody seen this?
[21:10:00] corpix_: same here
[21:11:00] corpix_: myth is a mem eater
[21:11:00] Kury: isn't there a way to do it in k3b??
[21:11:00] jemarcks_: not at first... but it has a leak.
[21:11:00] Kury: I don't care what it looks like...
[21:11:00] corpix_: Kury: not implemented in k3b
[21:11:00] Kury: ahh..
[21:11:00] corpix_: Kury: you need dvdauthor to compile a dvd
[21:12:00] Kury: I could of swore I did it before... but maybe not.. (That would explain why I can't find it)
[21:12:00] corpix_: but tovid does all this for you
[21:12:00] corpix_: just click your files together
[21:12:00] corpix_: it has a gui
[21:12:00] Kury: K.. Thanks
[21:12:00] corpix_: np
[21:13:00] corpix_: i dont need it anymore using a low budget xvid standalone player with some external usb drive ;)
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[21:15:00] tdb30_: joink. Yes. Got the database problem sovled. Now I'm working on the audio conflict between my desktop and mythtv.
[21:15:00] tdb30_: they both want /dev/dsp
[21:16:00] corpix_: /dev/dsp is oss, make mythtv use alsa like "hw:0.1"
[21:16:00] corpix_: dunno if mythtv can use alsa
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[21:22:00] unkle: Hi there ! ...anyone with experience running mythtv on CN400 ?
[21:23:00] Anyone: unkle, not me
[21:23:00] Anyone: unkle, I'm going to bed.
[21:23:00] unkle: unkle > :D
[21:23:00] unkle: Anyone sleep tight then...
[21:23:00] Anyone: unkle, thanks .. just going to finnish up on v4l though. :-)
[21:23:00] Anyone: you too when its your turn! :-)
[21:24:00] unkle: Anyone > thanks :) ...whats up with v4l ?
[21:24:00] Anyone: getting a tv-card working
[21:25:00] unkle: Anyone > great :) ...most of the time im not getting it to work, – im just 'trying' :D
[21:26:00] Anyone: ok
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[21:29:00] ghostdog: anybody has a myth box running with pvr 150 w/ mce remote?
[21:30:00] ghostdog: I cannot get the remote working on mythfrontend, irw shows that the buttons are mapped correctly
[21:30:00] Anyone: ghostdog, I have a box running on an MGE UPS though .. but I guess that doesn't help you anymuch.
[21:31:00] ghostdog: am I missing something?
[21:31:00] ghostdog: I also place a lircrc file in /home/mythtv/.lircrc
[21:31:00] ghostdog: and nothing
[21:32:00] unkle: ghostdog, and the demon is running ?
[21:32:00] ghostdog: lircd
[21:32:00] unkle: yes
[21:32:00] ghostdog: it is working
[21:32:00] unkle: ok, then its over my head, sorry! ...maybe theres some sort of log ?
[21:32:00] ghostdog: I am missing the config file for my remote to work with mythfrontend
[21:33:00] ghostdog: either it is misconfigured or placed in the wrong place
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[21:34:00] unkle: and the map in the setup matches the button names received via irw ?
[21:35:00] unkle: sounds like a misconfig to me (?)
[21:35:00] ghostdog: matches lircd.conf, lircrc or both?
[21:36:00] unkle: lircrc
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[21:37:00] Anyone: firmware?
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[21:38:00] ghostdog: http://pastebin.com/487683
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[21:38:00] unkle: ghostdog, on my box theres 2 conf's. /etc/lircd.conf and /etc/lirc/lircd.conf
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[21:39:00] ghostdog: everything matched and I commented out the buttons the I did have
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[21:39:00] webbnetsys: Greetings Everybody.
[21:39:00] webbnetsys: Does anybody have a working Hauppage 350??
[21:39:00] webbnetsys: I need to get the lircd working correctly.
[21:40:00] ghostdog: unkle, yes they are both the same
[21:40:00] Anyone: webbnetsys, I have hauppage .. trying to get it
[21:40:00] Anyone: working
[21:40:00] Anyone: diff. model thoug, I gues
[21:40:00] ghostdog: I think the problem is the xine seccion of lircrc
[21:40:00] webbnetsys: Currently the daemon works, and can get valid info coming from irw
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[21:41:00] webbnetsys: But nothing is working when myth starts
[21:41:00] Cromz: did you all that have this lircd issue check both files to see if they match? the lircd.conf and the .lircrc ? the button names?
[21:42:00] webbnetsys: In the .mythtv/lircrc file I tried having the program marked as irexec AND mythtv
[21:42:00] tdb30_: I have a 350, but I don't use its remote.
[21:42:00] webbnetsys: Cromz: I checked. But even still some of the buttons SHOULD do something, not nothing.
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[21:42:00] Cromz: webbnetsys, not if they are not set the same.
[21:42:00] webbnetsys: So that is why I need somebodys valid ones.
[21:43:00] webbnetsys: Cromz: Nothing works if one is incorrect?? That sounds unlikely, but possible.
[21:43:00] Cromz: hold on.. :P my 350 works with lircd and a SA2000 cable box.
[21:43:00] webbnetsys: Are you using SuSE 10??
[21:43:00] tdb30_: have you gone to lirc.org or whatever and downloaded there code lists?
[21:43:00] Cromz: nope, FC3
[21:43:00] webbnetsys: I guess it shouldn't matter. But all the ones I have downloaded off the net don't work or is outdated.
[21:44:00] webbnetsys: that is good enough.
[21:44:00] webbnetsys: tdb30_: I have, but the problem is that they say irexec should be the program to call. But I am using the latest MythTV RPMS
[21:45:00] webbnetsys: From the documentation, it says that mythtv checks to see if it can be called directly from the lircd daemon.
[21:45:00] unkle: webbnetsys, i have a 350 with a grey/silver (i dont know!) remote. This config works for me (the only thing i cant get to work is "mute") http://pastebin.com/487696
[21:45:00] tdb30_: have you tested the lirc setup without myth by running their utility to see if it is getting the right codes?
[21:45:00] webbnetsys: Then if nothing is there then, you can do irexec.
[21:45:00] webbnetsys: unkle: Your a pimp. Thanks.
[21:45:00] webbnetsys: unkle: I will check it out.
[21:46:00] unkle: webbnetsys, np... i hope it works
[21:46:00] Cromz: http://www.cromz.com/lirc those are my two files. I had to rename the .lircrc to lircrc to make it show.
[21:46:00] ghostdog: unkle, rc6 remote?
[21:47:00] webbnetsys: unkle: Do you have the /etc/lirc.conf file as well??
[21:47:00] unkle: Have any of you tried running mythtv on a VIA CN400 chipset ? I wonder if the HW mpeg-acc works ? ..and how about the tv-out is it nice ? ...and crispy ? ;o)
[21:47:00] webbnetsys: Cromz: I will check yours out as well.
[21:48:00] Cromz: using grey / silver hauppauge remote, irblaster from www.irblaster.info to control my cable box.
[21:48:00] unkle: ghostdog, maybe :) ...(how do i check it?)
[21:49:00] ghostdog: unkle, it says in the back with big letters :D
[21:49:00] unkle: ghostdog, well, – mine justr says "made in korea" :D
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[21:51:00] webbnetsys: Cromz: I am getting a permission denied. Can you make it accessable for me.
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[21:52:00] Cromz: k try now
[21:52:00] daniel_bergamini: alright, if X can't read my edid information what's the next way to try and make the right 1280x768 modeline?
[21:53:00] daniel_bergamini: (running knoppmyth)
[21:53:00] tufkal: Afternoon all, I am looking for a backend keepalive script. I had a link to one a while back but I lost it. It was a little bash script that looked at the output of 'ps -A' and launched a mythbackend process if there wasnt one. Anyone got a link? I hate missing recordings :) Its going into a every minute cronjob lol
[21:54:00] Anyone: tufkal, I got lots of links. Not for that though.
[21:54:00] ghostdog: unkle, solved
[21:54:00] Cromz: tufkal, use inittab to respawn it if it's not running.
[21:54:00] ghostdog: freakn wrong directory
[21:55:00] ghostdog: placed lircrc on /home/me/.mythtv/lircrc
[21:55:00] ghostdog: :retard:
[21:55:00] ghostdog: thanks to all, spent les time installing the pvr than figuring the remote out
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[21:56:00] simplebob: anybody know what the heck "not compiled with any useable video output method" means?
[21:57:00] simplebob: when i did ./configure it said vunder video output support x11 and randr
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[21:58:00] simplebob: am i missing something important?
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[21:59:00] corpix_: well, since you want to watch things you need a video out driver running
[22:00:00] simplebob: well i can watch it with xine through /dev/video
[22:00:00] corpix_: thats probably a video-in
[22:01:00] simplebob: so what video out driver do i need
[22:01:00] simplebob: i thought x11 would be enough
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[22:02:00] corpix_: try ./configure --disable-xv
[22:03:00] corpix_: or ./configure --help
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[22:03:00] corpix_: --disable-xrandr
[22:03:00] corpix_: btw, what video card ?
[22:03:00] simplebob: gf6600
[22:04:00] corpix_: same here
[22:04:00] simplebob: and pvr150 for video
[22:04:00] corpix_: xv + xrandr work here
[22:04:00] corpix_: some hauppauge nova-se2 here
[22:04:00] corpix_: debian ?
[22:04:00] simplebob: slamd64
[22:04:00] corpix_: dpkg -l | grep xv
[22:04:00] corpix_: ii libxv-dev 6.8.2.dfsg.1–11 X Window System video extension library deve
[22:05:00] corpix_: oh, there are problems on 64bit sys
[22:05:00] Krazylegz: I have come to the conclusion that while MythStream is quite useful to me.....it's not as nice as it could be.
[22:05:00] corpix_: CPU[AMD Athlon 64 3700+ clocked at 1075.142 Mhz] Kernel[Linux 2.6.15-rc7-git1-cpx1 i686] Up[-21:44-] Mem[-955/1011.15MB-] HDD[-250GB(66%used)-] Procs[-109-] Client[X-Chat 2.6.0]
[22:05:00] corpix_: things dont compile probably on e.g. gentoo64
[22:06:00] simplebob: hm i dont have libxv
[22:06:00] corpix_: and the -dev
[22:06:00] simplebob: need both?
[22:06:00] corpix_: in debian sid i needed alot of -dev packages
[22:07:00] Agrajag-: "a lot"
[22:07:00] corpix_: i'll make a list, but i wont fiddle out what packages you really need
[22:08:00] corpix_: http://pastebin.com/487727
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[22:09:00] simplebob: thanks ill go through it
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[22:21:00] Ediehow: hi
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[22:39:00] simplebob: i set a recording and went into media library->watch recordings and it shows up in the little preview window...wth
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[22:49:00] daniel_bergamini: ls
[22:49:00] daniel_bergamini: hehe
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[23:01:00] Servo888: What is needed to start the frontend on a remote system? It seems to want to access the mysql database... hmm
[23:01:00] Servo888: oh wait here we go
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[23:08:00] Servo888: it seems to fail with Can't connect to MySQL server on '192.168.0.25' (111)
[23:10:00] dasOp: then it probably cannot
[23:10:00] dasOp: how did you install mysql?
[23:11:00] Kabutor: Servo888, mysql by default only allows connection from localhost, check that
[23:11:00] Servo888: ah ok
[23:16:00] Servo888: ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) | hmm that's interesting
[23:17:00] Kabutor: you have to use password -p
[23:17:00] Servo888: yah it would seem... But none of my passwords work...
[23:18:00] webbnetsys: Cromz: Thanks for the files. Everything is working now.
[23:18:00] Servo888: How do I reset it Kabutor?
[23:18:00] Kabutor: the password?
[23:18:00] Servo888: yes
[23:18:00] Kabutor: you need the root password to reset the password, AFAIK
[23:18:00] Kabutor: :)
[23:18:00] Servo888: I know
[23:18:00] Servo888: I have that...
[23:18:00] Servo888: And I've tried entering it for the -p option
[23:18:00] Kabutor: from localhost?
[23:19:00] Servo888: via ssh
[23:19:00] Kabutor: myslq -u root -p <- you tried that and didnt work?
[23:19:00] Servo888: yes
[23:20:00] Servo888: ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[23:20:00] Servo888: Using my normal root password =\
[23:20:00] Kabutor: you dont have to use the normal root pass, you have to use pass you setup before in mysql
[23:21:00] iggy: mythtv is smart enough to know it can't use 2 inputs on the same card at the same time right?
[23:21:00] js2638: servo, if you've never set a root password for mysql, just omit the -p
[23:21:00] Kabutor: if not I dont know how to reset, but probably you have to delete all the databases , no idea howerve
[23:21:00] js2638: just use mysql -u root mythconverg
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[23:23:00] Servo888: js2638, ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[23:23:00] tdb30_: any tips on making playback over my wireless network not choppy?
[23:25:00] iggy: add wires
[23:26:00] tdb30_: ohh don't tell me that.
[23:26:00] js2638: try just mysql -u root
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[23:26:00] js2638: tdb — try drinking a lot — you'll notice less
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[23:29:00] tdb30_: so you can't use a wireless connection to watch tv?  :( Well. Then I guess I'm out of luck...
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[23:30:00] Mogsie: tdb30_, a raw MPEG2 stream requires 10Mbit dedicated.
[23:30:00] cout: I accidentally created a NES player and then deleted it, but it still shows up in the games menu (and if I select it mythfrontend crashes). how can I get rid of it?
[23:30:00] simplebob: move your router away from monitor, tv etc
[23:30:00] dasOp: tdb: transcode to something other than mpeg2
[23:31:00] Mogsie: you could try compressing stuff before watching.
[23:31:00] dasOp: the default recording codec for raw input works just fine over wlan
[23:31:00] simplebob: yeah i think its just wireless problems
[23:32:00] tdb30_: how do I do transcoding and stuff?
[23:32:00] tdb30_: humm
[23:32:00] xris: tdb30_: from recordings, or dvd's?
[23:32:00] tdb30_: live tv
[23:33:00] Mogsie: btw: anyone else play around with ltsp as a front-end?
[23:33:00] dasOp: what kinda card do you have?
[23:33:00] tdb30_: Its okay for the first 5 or 10 seconds.
[23:33:00] tdb30_: in the remote box a pvr350.
[23:33:00] Kabutor: tdb30_, have you tried with mplayer -cache 4092 for example?
[23:33:00] dasOp: a larger cache could help
[23:33:00] xris: tdb30_: to mpeg4 nupplevideo, or an avi?
[23:33:00] Ediehow: hi xris
[23:33:00] xris: heya
[23:34:00] tdb30_: I'm confused. I think I just took all defaults. I'm trying to use the watch tv menu item.
[23:34:00] xris: tdb30_: sorry, I'm talking about transcoding
[23:34:00] dmz: anyone here using an nvidia -> hdmi/dvi output @ 1080i?
[23:35:00] xris: there are 2 kinds of transcoding.. one within myth, that converts your recorded files to smaller mythtv-only nupplevideo files, and the other is using nuvexport to turn your recordings into avi files or other non-myth formats.
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[23:36:00] Beirdo: OMG
[23:36:00] tdb30_: doesn't the watch tv thing on the front end connect to the back end and use the nupple video files?
[23:36:00] Beirdo: dvdauthor accepted an MPEG1 file?!
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[23:37:00] Beirdo: let's see if it will display
[23:37:00] xris: tdb30_: yes
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[23:37:00] xris: tdb30_: all video goes through a backend
[23:38:00] simplebob: Beirdo, garbage in, garbage out :D
[23:39:00] tdb30_: Is there any way to make things better by compressing the stream or something?
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[23:40:00] xris: tdb30_: huh? mpeg or nupplevideo *is* compressed
[23:40:00] Beirdo: OMG
[23:40:00] Beirdo: it works
[23:40:00] Beirdo: OMG
[23:40:00] Beirdo: fuck Windows
[23:40:00] Beirdo: :)
[23:40:00] simplebob: now stick it in your dvd player
[23:40:00] dmz: anyone else run mythfrontend @ 1080i?
[23:40:00] Beirdo: it plays in xine
[23:40:00] tdb30_: so there is nothing that can be done?
[23:40:00] Beirdo: that's a damn good start
[23:41:00] Beirdo: and MPEG1 at VCD resolution is VALID in vobs
[23:41:00] xris: tdb30_: I missed what your problem is
[23:42:00] dmz: i just got my DVI out working @ 1080i (switching from video out pvr350 -> nvidia DVI @ 1080i) and now my menus cut off the bottom 1/3 of each menu item and when I try to play anything it just locks up mythfrontend & I have to restart X
[23:42:00] tdb30_: choppy play back watching live tv on a remote system over a wlan
[23:42:00] dmz: do I need to run videos @ 800x600 or something? it works @ 1024x760 on my computer, just not on my "main" mythtv box
[23:42:00] dmz: tdb30_ 802.11b or g? if b, upgrade you need more bandwidth :)
[23:42:00] sphing: tdb30_: b or g
[23:43:00] sphing: ... exactly
[23:43:00] xris: tdb30_: record at a lower bitrate
[23:43:00] dmz: or try tuning recording to smaller size/audio bitrate
[23:43:00] Mogsie: tdb30_: or transcode to a better compression format
[23:43:00] tdb30_: so I run mythtv-setup and change settings there?
[23:43:00] sphing: or dont use wlan
[23:44:00] ** Mogsie . o O ( all of the above ) **
[23:44:00] xris: tdb30_: no, it's under recording profiles
[23:44:00] xris: in the frontend
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[23:46:00] Umaro: Hey guys.. is there a way for me to add/add info for new files in /myth/video? I'm ripping them on a seperate box
[23:46:00] simplebob: takes so long to compile mythtv..
[23:46:00] Beirdo: xris: a simple demux/mux worked on my DVCD recordings. it seems that dvdauthor does what I need now
[23:46:00] Beirdo: hehe
[23:46:00] Umaro: like, instead of going through the frontend's video manager.. i'd like to search imdb for that movie and have it fetch the info and store it
[23:47:00] Beirdo: just need to figure out how to make the menues
[23:47:00] Beirdo: jams_, you around?
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[23:51:00] tdb30_: oops. I got smooth playback but its 16:9 for some reason :)
[23:52:00] thread: Any ideas why watching live tv from mythfrontend lets me see less than 1 second of beautiful full-motion video complete with sound, but then freezes up causing me to have to kill it myself. Cat'ing from /dev/v4l/video0 _does_ get me the arbitrarily long mpeg file I expected.
[23:54:00] sphing: thread but does it play correctly
[23:54:00] thread: yes
[23:54:00] thread: just fine
[23:54:00] tdb30_: how do I fix it from all streched out back to full screen? What did I change? I was playing around with recording quality and stuff.
[23:56:00] dmz: ugh
[23:56:00] dmz: ok anyone have any ideas why when i changed from video out via pvr350 -> nvidia dvi (@1080i) that I can't play any video's anymore! just stops responding
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