Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Sunday, January 1st, 2006, 00:01 UTC

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Cyberknet:

GreyFoxx around?

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** xris pokes Cyberknet **

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xris:

he was earlier

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Cyberknet:

heh

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Cyberknet:

Beirdo was around much earlier.

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xris:

so I think I'll be getting my first google adsense check next month

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Cyberknet:

about 17 hours earlier.

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Cyberknet:

woohoo =)

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Cyberknet:

$100 well earned.

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Cyberknet:

more earned that milliondollarhomepage.com

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xris:

yup\

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Cyberknet:

finished installing myth on FC4

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xris:

wish people would click on my ads more often, though

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xris:

cool

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Cyberknet:

fairly straight forward.

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xris:

svn?

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Cyberknet:

Not yet.

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xris:

I have specs for svn if you want them

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Cyberknet:

rpm. quicker, and I had a deadline.

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Cyberknet:

hmmmm

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Cyberknet:

If I knew how to use them that would be great.

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Cyberknet:

I could update to SVN later.

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xris:

pretty easy

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xris:

let me know if you want me to explain.. takes about 3 minutes

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xris:

lots of new stuff in mythweb. :)

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Cyberknet:

I'd like to run SVN, just not sure that SVN right now is good for live tv

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xris:

it's not good for livetv

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Cyberknet:

sure, that'd be great

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xris:

pretty sure it's still borked.

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Cyberknet:

yeah, that's what I thought.

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Cyberknet:

not sure how far away the next release is.

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Cyberknet:

it seems like there's a fair amount of stuff to stabilize before that

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Cyberknet:

but from what I hear, things are moving along at a fairly rapid rate

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Cyberknet:

so who knows... it could be soon I guess.

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xris:

I think the livetv fix is the last thing isaac really wants done before the release

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xris:

I know he wants to push .19 out soonish, but obviously wants to get it as stable as possible first

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xris:

so it could still be a month or two

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Cyberknet:

I keep hearing nice things about the new mythweb... you must have done a good job =)

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xris:

I like it

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Cyberknet:

0.18 was a great release

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Cyberknet:

very stable.

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Cyberknet:

I think possibly the best release yet.

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xris:

not a LOT of superficial changes, but a lot of core stuff behind the scenes that'll make it easier to expand, add plugins, etc

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** Cyberknet pokes greyfoxx **

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xris:

there's a LOT of cool stuff coming in .19... I can't really remember what all is new, since I've been using it from early on

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xris:

I did finally get the custom recording stuff put into mythweb today, though

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Cyberknet:

yeah, and the ajax support is going to make things really fly.

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xris:

only the recorded programs page has ajax

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xris:

would like to do it on the "upcoming" page, but that'd take a LOT of work because it's all handled by the backend scheduler

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Cyberknet:

true that

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Cyberknet:

So I guess the GL interface isn't going to make it into .19

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xris:

hmm

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xris:

dunno

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Cyberknet:

I haven't heard much talking about it lately on the dev list

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DanMeister:

I'm just putting my list of component together for my Myth box now.

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DanMeister:

A$850 already.

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Cyberknet:

A$ indicating what currency?

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DanMeister:

AUD

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Cyberknet:

AUD is much more descriptive.

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xris:

DanMeister: not that bad, then

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Cyberknet:

that's pretty good actually

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xris:

good mythbox probably costs abour $600 US minimum

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Cyberknet:

you could easily spend USD$850 on it.

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DanMeister:

At the moment, still have to include the TV tuner cards, and the case.

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xris:

mine was $500 3 years ago... though I didn't pay for it (traded OT)

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xris:

added pvr-150 this year, and a free air2pc from jarod

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xris:

really need to figure out how to export HD stuff from nuvexport

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Cyberknet:

I've put more money into mine than I care to think about

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Cyberknet:

for something that I put together from free parts because I could ... it sure has drank a lot of money since then

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Cyberknet:

and I don't think my gear is all *that* great

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xris:

I still want a dvb card

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Cyberknet:

although my RAID card rocks the socks off of anything =)

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** Cyberknet loves his 9500S-4LP **

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xris:

yeah, I need one of those

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DanMeister:

Mine isn't going to be that special either. 3200+, 1GB RAM, 200G HDD.

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Cyberknet:

expensive bastard, but sweet.

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xris:

best card out there... well, was before the new ones

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Cyberknet:

DanMeister: I'm talking about a 2100+, 512MB ram... though I do have 250GB Raid1

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** Cyberknet wants 500GB Raid5 **

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Cyberknet:

the new ones??

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Cyberknet:

dammit.

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Cyberknet:

oh... the SATAII ones?

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xris:

thought they had a 9600 out... nevermind

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Cyberknet:

the 9550SX

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dave__:

Am I blind or is there no rip button in mythdvd

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DanMeister:

Cyberknet: I'm putting the serious HDD space into my desktop machine. I'm looking at 2+ 300G drives.

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dave__:

to actually begin the transcode

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xris:

anyway, latest firmware/drivers for the 95xx cards is apparently the best they've ever done.

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xris:

dave__: might not be compiled in

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dave__:

xris, wouldnt that not even show the import cd button?

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Cyberknet:

xris: I'll have to download it. I haven't updated the firmware since I got the card.

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xris:

no. dvd and cd ripping are separate

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GreyFoxx:

Mooo

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GreyFoxx:

Cyberknet: Around now

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Cyberknet:

w00t

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dave__:

xris, it says import dvd

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Cyberknet:

do you have any special modprobe.conf entries for ati_remote.ko ?

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xris:

dave__: no clue, then.

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GreyFoxx:

I pass parameters manually in a modprobe line in my init script, but if I was gonna put one it would be

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dave__:

xris, it shows the dvd settings for rip but I cant start it theres no button that says "start"

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GreyFoxx:

option ati_remote lolatype=1

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Cyberknet:

gotcha

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Cyberknet:

you have an init script for the remote?

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GreyFoxx:

not specifically, I have rc.pvr for all the pvr related stuff

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GreyFoxx:

that's just a line or 3 of it

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Cyberknet:

aha

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Cyberknet:

gah

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Cyberknet:

I downloaded the source for my kernel from fedora ... and compiled the modules but I'm getting crap about unknown symbols.

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Cyberknet:

yick.

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** Cyberknet runs a depmod -ae **

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Cyberknet:

yeah. unknown symbol in module.

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Cyberknet:

I wonder what could be different in the source i downloaded vs the binary kernel that was already installed

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GreyFoxx:

I can only imagine :)

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Cyberknet:

heh

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Cyberknet:

might just recompile the kernel and modules and install those ones instead

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Cyberknet:

oh!

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Cyberknet:

I think I went about this the wrong way for FC4

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Cyberknet:

I never ran FC3 and I think they changed how you do it for FC3 & 4 vs FC2

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Cyberknet:

whoops

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Cyberknet:

I had created an exploded copy of the kernel source, and that's not necessary

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GreyFoxx:

Not being a FC user I wouldn't know :)

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Cyberknet:

http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/ati_remote.c still the best place to get the latest module source from?

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GreyFoxx:

The only place :)

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Cyberknet:

heh

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DanMeister:

Gotta get. Catch yas later.

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Cyberknet:

sometimes my own stupidity astounds me.

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GreyFoxx:

Though I suppose I should compare it to a more recent ati_remote.c to see if it's compatible with newer 2.6 kernels

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Cyberknet:

later dan

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Cyberknet:

you don't run it on 2.6?

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GreyFoxx:

Yes, but

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GreyFoxx:

I'm referring to newer than what I;m using it with

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Cyberknet:

aha

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ChewVodka:

hello again, can somebody help me get TV-Out on my GeForce MX4000?

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darkdrgn2k:

does mplayer do DVD menus?

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GreyFoxx:

darkdrgn2k: No

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darkdrgn2k:

GreyFoxx: is there an alternative to mplayer with myth?

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darkdrgn2k:

GreyFoxx: for dvds

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GreyFoxx:

most use xine for dvd playback

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darkdrgn2k:

k kool

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Cyberknet:

w00t

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Cyberknet:

it helps when you make modules per your dist's instructions

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ChewVodka:

is there a reason why the tvout on my video card works until X loads?

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darkdrgn2k:

ChanServ: yes cuase until X loads the OS uses VESA

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darkdrgn2k:

ChanServ: your drivrs arent VESA, to get video out you need to config your drivers to do it

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GreyFoxx:

cause the bios on the card defaults to tvout being on, the x driver defaults to off and you haven't configured it to be on in X

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darkdrgn2k:

ChanServ: or run a VESA environment and not get any acceleration (like i do)

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ChewVodka:

how do i configure it to be on then? in my xorg.conf i have included the lines "option" "tvstandard" "ntsc-m"

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ChewVodka:

and the "tvoutformat" "s-video"

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Cyberknet:

GreyFoxx: ever have trouble with the arrow keys stopping responding in menus?

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GreyFoxx:

Cyberknet: Nope

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darkdrgn2k:

ChewVodka: donno on ATI cards is "notvout" "no"

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ChewVodka:

i'm trying to search the internet but i'm not finding any really helpful guides

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Cyberknet:

and the map of buttons->keys is in the source?

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GreyFoxx:

yes

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Cyberknet:

this is odd... the arrow keys will just stop responding.

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ChewVodka:

i'm almost about to drop the whole myth idea and go with Winblows MCE :(

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GreyFoxx:

I never bothered to put it out of the source.

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darkdrgn2k:

ChewVodka: so do it.. MCE is USSLESS

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darkdrgn2k:

ChewVodka: set your driver to VESA unill you figure the rest out..

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ChewVodka:

i don't want to do it :)

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darkdrgn2k:

ChewVodka: then go search the net

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darkdrgn2k:

ChewVodka: my ATI wont do video out w/p vesa.. so i did it.. it works pritty good

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darkdrgn2k:

but if you do use vesa make sure to cahnge mplayer to use -vo x11 not vw

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Cyberknet:

where would be the best place to investigate for unresponsive button presses?

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GreyFoxx:

ChewVodka: What Driver is it set to use ? And I mean what is the exact line from the xorg.conf

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ChewVodka:

darkdrgn2k i'd like to try and get it to work without forcing vesa

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GreyFoxx:

Cyberknet: load the module with debug=1 and then kernel messages/dmesg will contain an entry for every key press

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GreyFoxx:

If anything you will know if the driver saw the key press

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ChewVodka:

brb

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darkdrgn2k:

why does XINE eat SO much more juice then MPLAYER?

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darkdrgn2k:

whats the default command line for DVD in myth dvD?

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dave__:

just in case anyone care my problem with dvd ripping was an non-existen directory

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dave__:

now to find out how to make the program guide stop resizing my screen

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darkdrgn2k:

whats the default mplayer command line for DVD in myth dvD?

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dave__:

I think I asked this before but does the windowmanager have any effect on how myth is displayed or is that all up to X

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darkdrgn2k:

dave: usualy up to X

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darkdrgn2k:

uhh ui eman dm

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darkdrgn2k:

can SOME one PLEASE tell me wht the defult params for dvd on myth dvd is?

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darkdrgn2k:

right now i get it way to zoomed in!

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dave__:

Im just wondering cause when I switch to my program guide while watching tv it shoots it too the left and down covering most of it.

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CyberKnet2:

the driver isn't seeing the keypress

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dave__:

darkdrgn2k, possibly on a widescreen tv..?

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CyberKnet2:

it will just not receive them for a while. remote led lights up as if it is sending them

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darkdrgn2k:

i do: i did mplay dvd:// /dev/cdrom -fs -zoom -vo x11

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darkdrgn2k:

.

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CyberKnet2:

it's pretty sporadic

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CyberKnet2:

this was an RMA'd remote. I wonder if that was why

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CyberKnet2:

hmm... could be range

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CyberKnet2:

I'm less than 12' from the receiver though

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CyberKnet2:

hmm... it does appear to be range

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CyberKnet2:

I'd heard reports of over 20ft range with these things though.

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alpha255:

so i've been reading away at the mailing list archive.....

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alpha255:

and still have one a question... which tvtuner decoder card would you buy?

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alpha255:

must have a remote or controlled by remote

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CyberKnet:

decoder card?

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CyberKnet:

I dont understand what type of card you are referring to

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alpha255:

the pvr-350 or pvr-250

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alpha255:

hauppauge

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alpha255:

or the hd-3000

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** alpha255 is somewhat new at this **

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alpha255:

been reading a ton

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Kelerion:

hey guys – I know the pvr 250 just dumps to a mpeg stream but anyone here now *exactly* how thats handled within mythtv?

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Kelerion:

just had an interesting email that might be useful to developers about it in regards to optical input sync

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Kel-kippin:

g'night all.. happy new years!

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alpha255:

happy new years!

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dtm:

<3

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mishehu:

ugh. I hate this athlon xp box that I have myth on...

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mishehu:

indecision kernel: Trying to fix it up, but a reboot is needed

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mishehu:

that's after xine when defunct...

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mishehu:

s/when/went

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ipso:

When I play back video on one of my frontends, JUST the ride of the video is about 50 pixels off the edge of the TV. All other sides are fine. I've tried adjusting the X,Y positions, but they don't seem to do anything, and the horizontal percent adjusts the size of the image, but the video is still off the "edge" of the adjusted size. Any ideas how to fix this?

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Juski:

hick! :)

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BongSolo:

hello, I'm installing myth per jerrod's guide. i'm setting up my remote now. i was able to transmit a signal and record a 'myremote' file (from mythtv.org) but when i launch irw it closes the port. any ideas?

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BongSolo:

this is the error i get in my var/log/messages: http://pastebin.com/485837

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Zombie:

I'm concerned about my Digital Cable system.

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BongSolo:

nobody has any ideas?

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dave__:

What dpi should I run x at for a hdtv

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CBiLL:

any mythtv forums to search and read?

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cesman:

there is no official MythTV forum

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BongSolo:

is there anybody actually HERE monitoring the chatroom?

[04:37:00]

cesman:

perhaps no one has any ideas...

[04:37:00]

cesman:

I know I don't

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cesman:

sorry

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BongSolo:

heh

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BongSolo:

do you have a remote?

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Hoxzer:

I bet youu look goood on the dance

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Hoxzer:

floor

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cesman:

yes

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cesman:

ahhh yes, I have a remote

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BongSolo:

how did you set it up?

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cesman:

I certainly don't think I look good on the dance floor

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cesman:

by reading the LIRC docs

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BongSolo:

i've tried that

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cesman:

sorry, I don't have an imon

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BongSolo:

i've read LIRC, Jerrod, and the offical

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BongSolo:

the imon is built into my VFD on the case i bought

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cesman:

I believe Jarod spells his name J A R O D

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BongSolo:

i can make it work enough to record my own button assignments, but then when i try to load it it doesn't work (ie; irw to test)

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BongSolo:

i've seen it spelled both ways

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cesman:

doesn't mean the other way is how he spells it

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cesman:

but at any rate...

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BongSolo:

heh

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teevee:

what does "prebuffering pause" mean?

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Amankhan:

Hi all, trying to find out some info. on a problem I'm having with the latest lirc CVS & kernel 2.6.14. Anyone have any good resources to check?

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BongSolo:

no but if you find some let me know.. i'm here for some problems with lirc also

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Amankhan:

Sadly the lirc mailing list is no help :(

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Amankhan:

BongSolo: what problems are you having?

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BongSolo:

i'm having trouble getting the driver to remain "working" after i run irrecord and setup the button assignments

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BongSolo:

when i go to run irw, nothing happens, and my messages log says the port was closed

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CBiLL:

seem like there no good forum that cover this area

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Amankhan:

Ah, I can't even get that far. When I start up irw, I get no response. Checking /var/log/messages, it says it accepts new client on /dev/lird then it says it removed the client

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BongSolo:

thats what i get

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CBiLL:

I am trying to firgue out how to enable Closed Caption so that the TV set can decode it and print it on the screen

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BongSolo:

Amankhan; try getting irrecord to work first.. just to make sure your remote and receiver are communicating

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Amankhan:

Just to be sure I'm doing this right, how do I do that?

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BongSolo:

Amankhan; after that, then you use irw to make sure the buttons you push match the assignments you gave in irrecord

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BongSolo:

i was using jerrod/jarod ^_^ 's guide and switched over to the official guide

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teevee:

anyone have experience with prebuffer pause messages? I'm getting stuttering and pausing during video playback as well as with livetv

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Amankhan:

Yeah, I was using Jarod's guide, too

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waveblaster:

is mythtv available for ubuntu via APT ???

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BongSolo:

are you 'yum' downloading or building from a tarball download from lirc?

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Amankhan:

I originally used yum, but I manually compiled this afternoon

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teevee:

what's yum?

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Amankhan:

using latest cvs, pre3 IIRC

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BongSolo:

heh lost me there

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BongSolo:

i just downloaded the second file under downloads (lirc-0.

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BongSolo:

oops

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BongSolo:

lirc-0.7.2.tar.gz

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Amankhan:

ah

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Amankhan:

I'm using lirc-0.8.0pre3

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BongSolo:

then ran the ./configure.sh

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BongSolo:

0.8 sounds newer than 0.7.2... could be a bugged beta

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teevee:

what's yum?

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thanatoast:

What is does mythcommflag do? Or better yet, where can I find that out?

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Amankhan:

No idea teevee

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Amankhan:

0.8 is cvs

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Amankhan:

its what axel has in atrpms right now

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Amankhan:

for FC4

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BongSolo:

yum is "apparently" a built in system module upgrader/installer for FC4

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thanatoast:

Kinda like apt-get

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teevee:

oh

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Amankhan:

teevee: http://linux.duke.edu/projects/yum/

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BongSolo:

but i don't know anything about linux than what i've learned from trying to install myth :)

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thanatoast:

I think :)

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teevee:

BongSolo: wow, your brain must hurt

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BongSolo:

and my lack of linux knowledge isn't helping with the install process :)

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Amankhan:

what kernel are you running, Bongsolo?

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BongSolo:

its fun for me to learn neww things

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BongSolo:

um

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BongSolo:

heh

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teevee:

BongSolo: well good for you

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teevee:

i'm trying to learn how to make mythfrontend not chop to the point of being unwatchable

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BongSolo:

i don't know how to find out :)

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Amankhan:

BongSolo: type uname -r in a konsole

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teevee:

i figured a P3 1 GHz would be fast enough considering 800 MHz was at one point

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BongSolo:

teevee: i just spent the last 3 days trying to make my new video card

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BongSolo:

work with tv-out

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teevee:

BongSolo: i had a fun time getting svideo-out running

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BongSolo:

Amankhan; 2.6.14–1.1653_FC4

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teevee:

BongSolo: eventually figured it would only run at the low low res of 640x480 :(

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Amankhan:

teevee: What res you can run at is dependent on your TV

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BongSolo:

teevee: i got mine at 800x600 finally, but i can't see ANYTHING on the edges (and my tv is about 30 years old

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BongSolo:

)

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Amankhan:

Non-HD boxes are usually limited to 640x480, but they can do 800x600 without too much noise

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teevee:

Amankhan: i know, but i've had that tv running at 1024x768 so i'm still not sure why it's doing that

[04:59:00]

teevee:

i wish nfs didn't suck so bad

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BongSolo:

heh maybe you got spyware ^_^ <-snicker

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teevee:

<_<

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teevee:

uhhhhh no -_-

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Amankhan:

You can run it at 1024x768, but a non-HD capable box is going to have massive amounts of jaggies at that resolution

[05:00:00]

BongSolo:

i really DON'T want to go the way of Windows MCE but i might have to :(

[05:00:00]

rjune:

HAPPY NEW YEAR!

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BongSolo:

man, there's a bunch of hot, sub-18-Yearolds outside drinking, yelling happy new year to the entire condo community, and flashing their tits to everybody

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teevee:

rjune: if you say so :|

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rjune:

I do

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BongSolo:

and i'm inside, fully dressed, sober, and playing on the computer :(

[05:01:00]

BongSolo:

i think i might go out and have a cigarette :) be back in a few

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Amankhan:

BongSolo: Log off. Now.

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BongSolo:

lol

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thanatoast:

lol

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teevee:

i don't have a crystal ball, but i see /quit in your future

[05:02:00]

thanatoast:

mythcommflag...Aha it flags commercials from the command line....I wonder why it is running... oh well

[05:03:00]

BongSolo:

not me.. i still got like 4 or 5 hours before i go to bed, then i got all day tomorrow

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teevee:

thanatoast: it runs after recording finishes

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BongSolo:

'aight be back in a few

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Amankhan:

BongSolo, seriously, Mythtv should be a very low priority at the moment. Go outside & take care of business

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Cardoe:

This is sad.

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Cardoe:

I was too tired to go out.

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Cardoe:

After working all damn day.

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Amankhan:

My wife is sick, otherwise I'd be out. :/

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thanatoast:

Thanks teevee

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thanatoast:

I still think I'm gonna have to give up on mythtv... 1800 miuntes to convert a nuv to something I can watch, I don;t have the patience for that

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Amankhan:

thanatoast: transcoding takes a lot of CPU power unfortunately.

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thanatoast:

I noticed, it barely access the HD while it is doing it

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Amankhan:

you can't watch the files in mythfrontend?

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BongSolo:

ok i'm back

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BongSolo:

the cops showed up, and they all ran inside, right when i was lighting up my cigarette :(

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Amankhan:

You should have told them to come up to your apartment, where its safe

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BongSolo:

heh

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BongSolo:

my dad lives here too

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thanatoast:

lol

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thanatoast:

I can watch in myth, Amankhan, but I want to watch them on my pocket pc

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thanatoast:

I go away for a week at a time, and we spend 12–16 hours on the road driving each week. So is good time to catch up on TV

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rjune:

thanatoast: are you downscaling the resolution to?

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Amankhan:

Even on your pocket PC they'll still take up a good bit of space

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thanatoast:

rjune: Not sure how to do that yet, or what settings to use

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BongSolo:

is MCE any different from myth?

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thanatoast:

I have seen a few pocket pc files that are reasonably small. I had 3 or 4 sg1 episodes

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rjune:

resolution is gonna be a big part of it

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Amankhan:

a very big part

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rjune:

what are you using to transcode ?

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rjune:

thanatoast: https://www.timekiller.org/carpc/index.php <-- build one of these

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thanatoast:

The sg1 episodes are 104–105 megs each (no commercials)

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thanatoast:

I will look, rjune

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BongSolo:

i built a car-pc a few years ago.. it was cool

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thanatoast:

Whoa. I don;t think they'd let me mod the van, but that looks cool

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rjune:

file /path/to/file will tell you teh resolution

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thanatoast:

Uh, that page emntions streaming live tv using myth, I thought that that was not possible?

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rjune:

I'm gonna bet it's 320x240

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rjune:

thanatoast: he's magic

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thanatoast:

320x240 is cool

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thanatoast:

It is a tiny screen anyway

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rjune:

so what are you using to convert from nuv?

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thanatoast:

320x176 according to mplayer which won;t play it :)

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thanatoast:

nuvexport since I dunno what else to use

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thanatoast:

But I really have no idea what I am doing, it's not like I can just tell it what file size I have in mind :)

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BongSolo:

so whats the solution to my problem?

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thanatoast:

You shoulda invited them up

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Amankhan:

what was your problem?

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BongSolo:

lol

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BongSolo:

lirc -> irrecord works to record my button assignments, but irw displays nothing, and var/log/messages shows the port was closed

[05:28:00]

BongSolo:

this is the error i get in my var/log/messages: http://pastebin.com/485837

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Amankhan:

no idea, Bongsolo, sorry

[05:30:00]

Amankhan:

You're getting farther than I am with lirc

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BongSolo:

yeah i don't get it

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BongSolo:

should the path to lirc_imon still be reading from within the extracted install location?

[05:36:00]

Amankhan:

Grrr, I am so close to getting lirc to work!

[05:36:00]

Amankhan:

BongSolo: I have no idea, sorry :/

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BongSolo:

well, i wouldn't think so because once i get it working i would be removing that folder...

[05:38:00]

BongSolo:

heh were's all the intelligent users when you need them?

[05:40:00]

Amankhan:

Good question :D

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BongSolo:

i'm gonna browse through the mailing list archive

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BongSolo:

uhg!!! I'm so frustrated at this thing

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PaulWay:

Happy new year everyone!

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PaulWay:

Can anyone get me up to date with what's happening with ALSA vs OSS?

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cesman:

OSS is decapitated in the kernel

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cesman:

so, use ALSA

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PaulWay:

So why is xmms getting rid of ALSA support?

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cesman:

I've no idea

[06:29:00]

PaulWay:

Well, at least, the newest RPMs of xmms don't provide the alsa.so that xmms seems to need to have ALSA support.

[06:30:00]

cesman:

the fact of the matter is OSS is out ALSA is in

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PaulWay:

Well, that's what I wanted to know. xmms may have just got adgered somehow.

[06:31:00]

PaulWay:

Ta.

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** cesman looks up adgered in kdict **

[06:31:00]

PaulWay:

Any ideas on why mythfrontend would be taking up ~90% CPU on an Athlon 2400 playing back fullscreen MPEG2?

[06:32:00]

PaulWay:

And, more significantly, ~45% when using XvMC?

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** PaulWay starts looking through the '-v all' logs... **

[06:35:00]

PaulWay:

cesman: http://jargon.watson-net.com/jargon.asp?w=adger

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GreyFoxx:

PaulWay: What version of the nvidia drivers ?

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PaulWay:

Latest. rpm -qa \*nvidia\* says:

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PaulWay:

kernel-module-nvidia-2.6.14–1.1653_FC4–1.0.8178–0.lvn.1.4

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PaulWay:

nvidia-glx-1.0.8178–0.lvn.1.4

[06:38:00]

PaulWay:

and the kernel is 2.6.14–1.1653_FC4

[06:38:00]

GreyFoxx:

You could be suffering from the openGL vsync issue many users of 8174 and 8178 are having

[06:38:00]

GreyFoxx:

Cpu skyrockets

[06:38:00]

PaulWay:

Ahhhhhhh. Should I turn off OpenGL VSync, then?

[06:38:00]

GreyFoxx:

Or just revert to 7676

[06:38:00]

PaulWay:

'issues'. Yes, that's what I'm seeing.

[06:39:00]

PaulWay:

The GeForce 5200 should be up to it... It has been in the past.

[06:39:00]

GreyFoxx:

If you are running SVN you can just turn of ogl vsync with a menu, 0.18 has to be recompiled. Or just don't use the affected drivers

[06:39:00]

PaulWay:

Well, I'll try turning off OpenGL VSync then.

[06:39:00]

PaulWay:

Thanks!

[06:39:00]

** PaulWay loves the quick fixes that occasionally occur on IRC **

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Beirdo:

yay

[06:41:00]

Beirdo:

just finally deleted my oldest recording

[06:41:00]

Beirdo:

hehe

[06:41:00]

Beirdo:

March 24

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GreyFoxx:

I had a couple Canadian Idols from July I just got rid of heh

[06:42:00]

Beirdo:

this was a Monster Garage

[06:42:00]

Beirdo:

got 20 of em to archive

[06:42:00]

** PaulWay *laughs* **

[06:42:00]

Beirdo:

then I need to cutlist 9 Monster House and archive them too

[06:42:00]

PaulWay:

How much storage do you have, Beirdo?

[06:42:00]

Beirdo:

lots

[06:42:00]

Beirdo:

400G for video

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rjune:

which monster houses do you ahve?

[06:42:00]

PaulWay:

Thanks for that GreyFoxx, you've made Kate and I very happy.

[06:42:00]

Beirdo:

plus 100G for coverted video

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rjune:

w00t

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GreyFoxx:

heh

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Beirdo:

converted even

[06:43:00]

Beirdo:

rjune, a bunch of em

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PaulWay:

Did you just remember that I had an NVidia card, or did you intuit it from the problem description?

[06:43:00]

GreyFoxx:

the latter

[06:43:00]

rjune:

he's very intuitive

[06:43:00]

PaulWay:

Beirdo: Are you using LVM?

[06:43:00]

Beirdo:

yup

[06:43:00]

PaulWay:

rjune: he's very good!

[06:43:00]

Beirdo:

got 960GB in my fileserver

[06:44:00]

rjune:

most folks here are

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** rjune bows to Beirdo's superior fileserver **

[06:45:00]

Beirdo:

can never have enough storage when doing video stuff :)

[06:45:00]

rjune:

indeed

[06:45:00]

rjune:

my 300GB is paltry by comparison.

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Beirdo:

/dev/optData/video 400G 208G 193G 52% /opt/video

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Beirdo:

/dev/optData/videoConverted

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Beirdo:

100G 55G 46G 55% /opt/video/converted

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rjune:

but god willing, someday, someday. I'll build my 5TB RAID array

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Beirdo:

muhahah

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Beirdo:

I need to burn some DVDs I think

[06:46:00]

Beirdo:

got enough Monster Garage and Monster House for a few

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rjune:

I'll send you a self addressed ... oops can't make jokes about that.

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Beirdo:

almost enough Oliver's Twist too

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PaulWay:

woot! Another person that uses /opt for their storage point!

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GreyFoxx:

hehe I use /data/

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rjune:

/home/Multimedia

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GreyFoxx:

/data/video /data/photos /data/mp3 etc etc

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Beirdo:

/dev/optData/torrent 50G 37G 14G 73% /opt/torrent

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rjune:

Beirdo: you a Dr. who fan?

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Beirdo:

I think I should clear that one onto disc sometime soon

[06:47:00]

Beirdo:

nah, never got into it

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GreyFoxx:

rjune: that's funny. I'm watching Dr who right now

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rjune:

the Xmas invasion?

[06:48:00]

GreyFoxx:

I started rewatching Season27 yesterday

[06:48:00]

GreyFoxx:

saw that last night

[06:48:00]

Beirdo:

/dev/optData/torrent 50G 37G 14G 73% /opt/torrent

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Beirdo:

eek

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GreyFoxx:

I was alittle dissapointed

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rjune:

GreyFoxx: PM?

[06:48:00]

Beirdo:

stupid computer

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GreyFoxx:

rjune: Huh ?

[06:48:00]

Beirdo:

/dev/optData/iso 100G 41G 60G 41% /opt/iso

[06:48:00]

Beirdo:

hehe

[06:48:00]

Beirdo:

I have too much disk

[06:48:00]

Beirdo:

:)

[06:48:00]

rjune:

too much disk? is that like too much sex?

[06:48:00]

Beirdo:

ask yer mom

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Beirdo:

heh

[06:49:00]

Beirdo:

sorry

[06:49:00]

Beirdo:

that just slipped out

[06:49:00]

Beirdo:

I guess I can decommission /opt/darcs soon

[06:49:00]

Beirdo:

I switched to SVN pretty quick after that experiment

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rjune:

I'll ask my wife. asking my mom seems too oedipal for me

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Beirdo:

heh

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Beirdo:

as long as she doesn't answer "I really couldn't say"

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rjune:

we have 3 kids, soo.

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Beirdo:

hehe

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Beirdo:

you're ruining my fun

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Beirdo:

:)

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Beirdo:

happy new year, suckers

[06:52:00]

Beirdo:

I think I should go to bed

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Beirdo:

Good night, all :)

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Beirdo:

it will be cool when I finally get my PVR almost empty again

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Beirdo:

Oldest now is May 3

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Beirdo:

and it'll be done transcoding by the time I get up

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Beirdo:

night all :)

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Beirdo:

sorry for being a prick, rjune :) Overtired, I think

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rjune:

Beirdo: no worries, I give as good as I get

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Beirdo:

heh :)

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Beirdo:

night

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PaulWay:

Take it easy, beirdo!

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sportman:

happy new years

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sportman:

now to finsh installing myth tv

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Hoxzer:

new year :D

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Hoxzer:

slept over it

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sportman:

lol

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sportman:

bummer

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Hoxzer:

and woke up 4 A.M right before the party was over

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PaulWay:

That's a long NYE party...

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sportman:

so

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sportman:

who here uses ubuntu

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sportman:

and installed myth tv

[07:53:00]

sportman:

i need helop

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sportman:

*help

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PaulWay:

Nup – FC4 here.

[07:53:00]

PaulWay:

What are you installing it from?

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sportman:

breezy ubuntu

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PaulWay:

Are there ubuntu packages for MythTV>

[07:54:00]

PaulWay:

s/>/?/

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sportman:

yes

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sportman:

in synapticf

[07:54:00]

sportman:

but it doesnt resolve all dependencies

[07:54:00]

sportman:

should i just use a different apt repo?

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PaulWay:

What dependencies do you have?

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PaulWay:

You may need the marillat repo.

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sportman:

ah

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sportman:

i found a website

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sportman:

with ubuntu install info

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PaulWay:

This website – what does it say about the dependencies?

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sportman:

gives me 5 repositories

[07:56:00]

sportman:

for debian

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sportman:

that contain everything needed

[07:56:00]

sportman:

all dependencies

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PaulWay:

And you're using all of them but it doesn't resolve the depencies?

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sportman:

no

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sportman:

i just found it

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sportman:

im going to use it now

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sportman:

i should be good 2 go

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sportman:

:)

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PaulWay:

? Found what?

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sportman:

the website

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sportman:

with a list of repositories

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sportman:

i have just found that

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sportman:

im trying it now

[07:59:00]

sportman:

i should be good

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sportman:

:)

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PaulWay:

Well that's good news :-)

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sportman:

do you think i ned the deb-src repositories

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sportman:

or just the regular

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PaulWay:

No, I wouldn't think so.

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sportman:

would it hurt?

[08:03:00]

PaulWay:

No.

[08:04:00]

PaulWay:

At some point, for some bizarre reason, one package might require the development headers of another package, but I can't foresee that happening.

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sportman:

ok

[08:06:00]

sportman:

well

[08:06:00]

sportman:

added the repositories

[08:06:00]

sportman:

refreshing synaptic

[08:08:00]

sportman:

hmm

[08:08:00]

sportman:

didnt wokr

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sportman:

do you know where i can get a list of myth tv dependencies

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PaulWay:

Synaptic should give you a list of what dependencies were unresolved, yes?

[08:17:00]

PaulWay:

Which ones can't it find?

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sportman:

yea

[08:17:00]

sportman:

the site i had linked to bad repositories

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sportman:

i found a better one

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PaulWay:

Ah.

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PaulWay:

Does 'marillat' feature anywhere in there?

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sportman:

and now im installing each dependency with apt-get install

[08:17:00]

sportman:

ill look in a moment

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PaulWay:

Because I believe that's supposed to be good for most dependencies.

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PaulWay:

Go the whole hog and just apt-get install mythtv-suite :-)

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sportman:

will that install apache

[08:18:00]

sportman:

and mysql

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sportman:

and phpmyadmin

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sportman:

,

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sportmankid:

i need help

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sportmankid:

dude

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sportmankid:

this blows

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sportmankid:

can i have some help

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sportmankid:

im installing in ubuntu

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sportmankid:

seriously a little help?

[08:44:00]

sportmankid:

everything is installed

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sportmankid:

i just need to figure out how to start the backend

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sportmankid:

and verify that the backend is running

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sportmankid:

... can the back end be run without having my capture card set up?

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mishehu:

technically, yes

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sportmankid:

ok

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sportmankid:

well i have myth tv installed with mythdvd mythvideo mythmusic

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sportmankid:

and all this stuff

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sportmankid:

how do i know if my backend is running

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sportmankid:

and i have no idea what the database name and pass of my backend is

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sportmankid:

...

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mishehu:

how can you not know the database name and pass?

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sportmankid:

i dunno

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sportmankid:

i never made one

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sportmankid:

...

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sportmankid:

i think the name is mythtv

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sportmankid:

or i dunno

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stoffel:

sportmankid: http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name=MythInstall

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mishehu:

it's usually mythconverg

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sportmankid:

yea

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sportmankid:

i just noticed

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sportmankid:

umm one thing

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sportmankid:

how do i know if the backend is running

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sportmankid:

cause i tihnk the password and the database are set up correct now

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mishehu:

ps ax |grep mythbackend perhaps?

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cwsmith:

anyone get lirc_serial with mceusb2 working ?

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cwsmith:

followed guide at lircsetup

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cwsmith:

but not working cause mceusb2 is autodetected during redhat

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sportmankid:

hmm

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sportmankid:

i dont see anything

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sportmankid:

how do i start it

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sportmankid:

isnt it something etc

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mishehu:

sportmankid: sounds like you need to figure out linux even before you try to tackle mythtv

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sportmankid:

i understand linux enough

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sportmankid:

trust me

[09:02:00]

sportmankid:

i think its start /etc/opt/something

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sportmankid:

or start /etc/mythtv

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sportmankid:

you know what i will reboot

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sportmankid:

just to make sure it is off

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sportmankid:

then try and start up the mythtv backend server

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sportmankid:

i will brb

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sportmankid:

ok?

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mishehu:

doesn't sound like he knows enough about linux to me...

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** mishehu shrugs **

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sportmankid:

ok i am back

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sportmankid:

now how do i start that backen

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sportmankid:

d

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mishehu:

you read the documentation

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mishehu:

and I go to bed.

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sportmankid:

im reading it now

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sportmankid:

stoffel_

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Juski:

good grief

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asperon:

hi guys, i am having some problems getting X to instruct my cle266 via gfx chipset to send PAL and not NTSC to my tv (or alteast thats what i think its doing, since the image is lacking colours). The card sends PAL during the boot (and during the bootsplash) since i told it to in the bios, but as soon as X is loaded it goes black and white, any clues to what might be wrong?

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asperon:

when i run mkxf86config i get:

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asperon:

Video is (yet) unknown card, using XFree86(vesa) Server

[10:55:00]

asperon:

Monitor is Generic Monitor, H:28.0–96.0kHz, V:50.0–75.0Hz

[10:55:00]

asperon:

Using Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"

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asperon:

does that mean that its failing to detect the cle266 chipset?

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Juski:

asperon: there is yet another option in your video conf file, and that's the one where you tell it not just what standard the video is, but how to send the video.. that is.. svideo or composite. If you are connected with composite but the conf file is using svideo, you will only get monochrome video out

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Juski:

the reverse is also likely.. i.e. if you have it set to composite but youre using the svideo connection, you'll get only black & white video ;)

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Juski:

aaand you need to make sure not_myth has the via CLE266 drivers. this might be where you end up regretting not using another distro

[11:33:00]

asperon:

Juski: when i boots knoppix is seeing it as a via bla bla bla castle rock cle266 etc so it should have the driver, or?

[11:34:00]

asperon:

Juski: is there any way to make sure it has the driver?

[11:34:00]

Juski:

just done some googling – seems 5a16 has epia support

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asperon:

yes, and this is 5a26, so it should be good

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neuro|laptop:

happy mailman day!

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Juski:

look for the section in your xf86 config file where the following line is:

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Juski:

driver "xxxx"

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Juski:

and put "via" there instead

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Juski:

and by the way: happy new year!!!

[11:36:00]

asperon:

happy new year! =)

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asperon:

Juski: i have Driver "via" under device

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Juski:

right, so I think it autodetected your graphics adapter properly at least

[11:40:00]

Juski:

are you using composite or s-video?

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asperon:

the composite is the yellow cable to go with the red and white rca, and the s-video is the one that looks a bit like a ps/2, right?

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Juski:

yep

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asperon:

then i am using compite, is this bad, i have a s-video cable to, so i can swap if needed/better?

[11:40:00]

asperon:

composite

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Juski:

asperon: try using svideo.. I think that's the default the driver sets the tv output to if you don't tell it what to use

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asperon:

ok, ill swap

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Juski:

svid is _much_ better quality that composite anyway

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Juski:

*than

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asperon:

hmm, i dont have s-video in on the tv, but i have a s-video -> composite adapter, so that i can connect it to my existing scart cable, is this a good idea?

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Juski:

yeh that'd be ok

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asperon:

ok, changed, should i need to reboot? since the was no change on the tv

[11:45:00]

Juski:

hmmm

[11:45:00]

Juski:

shouldnt have to reboot

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asperon:

hang on, it could still be that its in NTSC

[11:47:00]

Juski:

find the part in the config file... as follows:

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Juski:

Section "Device"

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Juski:

put the following lines in there:

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Juski:

Option "TVType" "PAL"

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Juski:

Option "TVOutput" "Composite"

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Juski:

save the file, then reboot or restart the X server

[11:48:00]

Juski:

oh you might want to add the line:

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asperon:

and switch back to composite then i assume?

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Juski:

Option "TVVScan" "over"

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Juski:

yes

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Juski:

ooo I wanna get me one of these things: http://www.mini-itx.com/news/images/story0412-01L.jpg

[11:52:00]

asperon:

that did the trick!

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asperon:

i haven't swapped the cables back though

[11:53:00]

Juski:

buy me a virtual beer & we'll call it quits ;-)

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Juski:

asperon: the other thing you might like to do is set the video mode you're using to 720x576NoScale

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asperon:

Juski: how do i do that?

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Juski:

before I did that on my frontend, video didn't look as good.. the TV output chip rescales video & that introduces funny artifacts in the picture, noticable on moving objects

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asperon:

in xf86config?

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Juski:

in the section labelled

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Juski:

Section "Screen"

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Juski:

there should be a bunch of lines with 'Modes'

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asperon:

there are

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Juski:

comment them out & try putting the line

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asperon:

SubSection "Display"

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asperon:

Depth 1

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asperon:

Modes "800x600" "640x480"

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asperon:

EndSubSection

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Juski:

Modes "720x576Noscale"

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asperon:

on every one?

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Juski:

I mean comment out the 'Modes "800x600" "640x480" ' lines and put that one in its place

[11:56:00]

asperon:

yes

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asperon:

but i have like 7 sections

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Juski:

I seriously doubt you really need a 1-bit colour mode

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asperon:

with different colour dept

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asperon:

=)

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Juski:

comment out all but the 16 & 24 bit ones – that should be ok

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asperon:

ok

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Juski:

asperon: where in the world are you anyway?

[11:59:00]

asperon:

sweden

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asperon:

well, ill restart and we'll see how it works

[11:59:00]

Juski:

how was New Year's eve in Sweden?

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Juski:

asperon: if it borked anything, comment out the new line & uncomment the old one.. 800x600 is okay...

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asperon:

great, had dinner with a couple of friends, drank some champain and watched the fireworks

[11:59:00]

asperon:

were are you?

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Juski:

the later versions of the via driver _should_ be ok with that mode name though

[11:59:00]

Juski:

Manchester in the UK

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Juski:

had big dinner with my wife, drank lots of wine & JD... watched fireworks and turned my stereo all the way up to 11

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asperon:

aha, not that far away then =), sounds like a nice evening

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Juski:

yeh it was very nice. certainly a lot better than when I used to be a DJ

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asperon:

yeah, long hours, seems to be working nicely, since myth is now rescaling the theme images

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Juski:

have you seen those nano-itx boards? they look pretty cute.. can't wait til they're available to buy

[12:01:00]

Juski:

be great if they can do HDTV too

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Juski:

asperon: excellent news

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asperon:

no, i just gasp everytime i open up my mini-itx, i think it is small

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Juski:

when mine arrived I took it into work to show it off :)

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asperon:

well, it worked, now i am going to get cracking at the EPG and the recording stuff

[12:01:00]

asperon:

hehe

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Juski:

yay! not bad for someone with a stinking hangover eh?

[12:01:00]

asperon:

ill probably come back her asking for more help in no time =)

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asperon:

Juski: thnx a lot for your help!

[12:02:00]

Juski:

no problem

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Juski:

cawfee time

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t00m:

narf. what do i need to do, to get PAGER=less exported in bash?

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t00m:

$ cat .bashrc

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t00m:

export PAGER=less

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PaulWay:

t00m: do you also have a .profile?

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t00m:

yes

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PaulWay:

Because I can't remember which, but one works for login shells and another for ... whatever the other type is.

[12:22:00]

PaulWay:

Put it in both just in case.

[12:22:00]

t00m:

o dear, .profile seems to be a relic

[12:22:00]

t00m:

1st line says: # $FreeBSD: src/share/skel/dot.profile,v 1.21 2002/07/07 00:00:54 mp Exp $

[12:22:00]

t00m:

but i'm running gentoo :)

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dtm:

t00m: maybe you could try 'export PAGER=/usr/bin/less' ?

[12:23:00]

t00m:

i'll just delete the .profile

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dtm:

t00m: run it on the command line and see if it works

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t00m:

all fine now

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dtm:

k

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t00m:

thx

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PaulWay:

Hooray for IRC!

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t00m:

and a happy new year

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asperon:

if i want to mount samba shares on my myth box, i just mount them under /myth/video in the fstab, right?

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cesman:

asperon: I'd suggest mount under /mnt

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Juski:

why just under /mnt

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Juski:

?

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Juski:

you can mount em wherever you like

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cesman:

that is what /mnt is for

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cesman:

and it was only a suggestion

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Juski:

but putting them under /mnt minimises the risk of conflicting with other things ;)

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duomaxwell:

Whats the most recent list of tuner cards witha remote for PCI or PCI Express 1x?

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cesman:

your kernel should have a list of tuners that v4l supports

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cesman:

for ivtv, I'd suggest a look at thier wiki

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Juski:

duomaxwell: the list of PCI express tuner cards can be written on your thumbnail

[12:50:00]

duomaxwell:

the list would be in Ubuntu?

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Juski:

with linux support, there's basically.. the Hauppauge PVR series of cards if you want hardware MPEG encoding

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cesman:

this list would be in the kernel source

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duomaxwell:

Juski: heh, I'm sure it can, hell with the right stuff the library of congress can

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Juski:

there's also the list on the v4l & ivtv wiki pages

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Juski:

I very much doubt the new 'VEIL' protection system will emerge in the near future

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duomaxwell:

I'm new to the whole linux thing so bear with me guys, I know a few terms but not much past that, only been toying for a few days

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Juski:

and HDTV is so far away in the UK I won't be worrying about the DVD format wars and all the new DRM for a long time yet

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duomaxwell:

yep, I've heard merry old england is just that, old. see if the sweeds wil run you some fiber

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TylerGalus:

hi all... hope you all had a happy new year... now to my question... i've deleted recordings from mythtv and the files are gone but they still show in the watch recordings list.. how do i get rid of them?

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Juski:

TylerGalus: the best way would be to create a bunch of dummy files using the _touch_ command in the recordings directory

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Juski:

then delete them the _proper_ way in mythtv

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Juski:

tip – look in the mythtv log for the filenames (they'll appear when mythtv tries to delete non-existent files)

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Juski:

its possible your DB is damaged, which is how they were never removed from the list if you deleted them from within mythtv

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Juski:

duomaxwell: in the past, the English have been responsible for revolutionising television.. its just that the Great British public see no immediate need to upgrade. I mean our SDTV is pretty good to start with – HD isn't so much of a quantum leap for us

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Juski:

uptake of digital TV has been _slow_ in the UK.. but now about half the population have digital TV at home

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Juski:

not that HD is widely adopted in the USA though ;)

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duomaxwell:

I didn't mean just in TV, unless the broadband capabilities have improved since I stopped frequenting BBR

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Juski:

I dunno.. we've got 10Mbit widely available now

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Juski:

nothing on the kind of scale you get in some parts of Europe or Japan but hey

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duomaxwell:

wern't there restrictions on use? been a few months lol

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Juski:

theres only so much you can download in a day ;)

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Juski:

duomaxwell: there are usage caps, but I don't much care about them

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** Juski is not a #1 leecher **

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Juski:

IPTV is making inroads though

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duomaxwell:

heh, the only place this side of the pond thats running fiber is Verison and they've got it so they never have to share it... Greedy wanks

[13:04:00]

Juski:

I was shocked to see that 100mbit broadband they have in Japan for less than I pay for a 2mb pipe

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duomaxwell:

Juski: from what I;ve heard thats only in network, to connect from outside of japan thats only 24Mbps, still faster then most of the worlds lines tho

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TylerGalus:

ok the log appends to the bottom yes? (i'm asking because i've seen wierd logs that append to the top)

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Juski:

logs append to the bottom end in mythtv, yes

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Juski:

duomaxwell: so? still pretty damn impressive

[13:08:00]

Juski:

problem here is the age-old 'last mile' issue.. all that antiquated copper they'd have to pull out & replace

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duomaxwell:

Juski: I think the norsmen have Gbps... I don't mind the cold...

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Juski:

like I said before there's a limit to how much you _want_ to download

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Juski:

only so many movies you can watch.. distros to try...

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Juski:

that kinda speed needs a killer app

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TylerGalus:

ok how do i run the backend at startup but not as root? new recordings are being done as root:root

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TylerGalus:

oh and the touch method you suggested didn't work... is there a way to kill the recorded show list without dropping all my scheduled recordings?

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Juski:

it should work

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Juski:

you go to delete the show, but mythtv says it doesn't exist, so you make the file exist & the problem goes away

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TylerGalus:

then maybe my database is borked?

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Juski:

you could always back up the 'recorded' & 'recordedmarkup' tables, then blast em

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Juski:

then you'd have _no_ recordings

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Juski:

at least, none in the DB

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TylerGalus:

ok not to sound like a total newb but i am when it comes to databases.. how would i do that?

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TylerGalus:

is it drop <tablename>?

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Juski:

er.. no don't drop it

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Juski:

use a thing like webmin or phpmyadmin & just clear the table

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Juski:

anyway how did you end up having no files for shows but stuff in the DB? you _did_ delete them in mythtv didn't you?

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TylerGalus:

yes

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Juski:

in the meantime if I were you I'd make some test recordings & see if you can delete them ok

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Juski:

there may be more wrong

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TylerGalus:

those worked.. the only thing i can thing of is i shut down all mythtv processes and moved the directory so i could move everything to my new 600gb LVM partition that i mounted at the old save point (/mnt/tv) then i deleted them from mythtv since they all had started at the wrong time (my cable service is 5 min behind)

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TylerGalus:

but i made sure everything was back where it should've been before i started mythtv and tried deleting anything

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TylerGalus:

so new recordings delete properly but the old ones never disappeared from mythtv

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Juski:

you might be ok then

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TylerGalus:

i'm emerging phpmyadmin now... i'll let you know when i clear the recordings...

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Arkkis:

hey, I've been trying to figure out howto setup mythmusic, but frankly I have no idea. I'm using gentoo and I have mythtv working properly (altho when I watch livetv, frontend takes huge amount of cpu)

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Arkkis:

so, how can I setup mythmusic, how to tell it where my music is

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Kelerion:

setup/setup/media settings

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Kelerion:

msuci settings/general settings

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Arkkis:

and here I was thinking that I had gone trough all the setupscreens, doh

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Kelerion:

then once you've setup.. go into setup/music tools and it'll rescan yout specified directory

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Arkkis:

hmm, ok

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Arkkis:

so it's safe to give my mp3 folder there, and it will not reorganise it or anything, right?

[14:08:00]

Kelerion:

nope. it's not itunes

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Arkkis:

nope meaning here: no, it will not organise, yes it's safe.

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Arkkis:

or?

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Kelerion:

it won't reorganise anything

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Arkkis:

thanks =)

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Kelerion:

yes it is safe

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TylerGalus:

ok i know this is mythtv support but does anyone know what i have to do to get phpmyadmin working after emerging it? my browser wants to open the php files as text documents

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Kelerion:

do you have php installed?

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TylerGalus:

yes it emerged as a dependency... i also added the phpmyadmin database to mysql

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TylerGalus:

does php need to be started like apache?

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Kelerion:

check if you have apache-mod-php installed.. or something similar

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TylerGalus:

yes that was emerged as well (mod_php)

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Kelerion:

restarted apache?

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TylerGalus:

i'll try that but it was all emerged before i started apache

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TylerGalus:

nope still wants to open index.php as a text file

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Kelerion:

I don't know the first thing about gentoo.. soory.. just suggesting what I have to do under fc4 and ubuntu

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Arkkis:

TylerGalus, have you tried the gentoo wiki?

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Kelerion:

might want to check in the apache files for a line that says "AddType application/x-httpd-php .php" and make sure it isn't commented out

[14:17:00]

Arkkis:

hey, can I add my own RSS feeds to the newsreader?

[14:17:00]

TylerGalus:

ok will do

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Arkkis:

I know where I can choose the preset feeds, but I'd prefer custom ones, is it possible?

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Kelerion:

try to find a file called news-sites.xml

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Kelerion:

at least thats what its called on mine

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Arkkis:

ok, I'll look for it

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Kelerion:

Arkkis.. the news sites apparently are in the db

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Kelerion:

you can add them in there

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asperon:

i just got myth installed this morning (with a lot of help from Juski), and i am now trying to configure the different parts. When i insert a dvd and click play dvd, xine loads, but then i get a popup about an xine engine error and then i get thrown back to myth, is there anything i need to change/configure to get the dvd playback to work?

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Kelerion:

try opening xine seperately as the user your myth runs at and see what it does

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Arkkis:

Kelerion, for some reason, editing the news-sites.xml broke it down totally

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asperon:

Kelerion: just run it from a terminal, or?

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Kelerion:

Arkkis.. undo what you did then and add it directly to the DB

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Kelerion:

asperon.. yes

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Arkkis:

and as it was xml, i tought that I would not need backup..

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Juski:

asperon: what error does xine give you? try opening it outside of mythtv

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Arkkis:

I'll try to undo it

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Kelerion:

thats what I said.. lol

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Kelerion:

happt new years Juski! :)

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Kelerion:

I'm really glad I don't get handovers or I'd be feeling like total crap after everything I drank lastnight.. lol

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Kelerion:

hangovers..even

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Juski:

handovers can be bad too ;-)

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Juski:

I've got cold _and_ a hangover

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asperon:

Kelerion: i fire it up, and it loads but i cant seem to find a way to tell it to access my dvd?!

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Kelerion:

asperon.. I don't use xine.. I use mplayer.. just installing xine now.. one sec

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asperon:

ok, is mplayer better? is it much work to shift player? i just use xine since it came with the package =)

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Juski:

xine does dvd menus

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asperon:

aha, thats good

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Juski:

but then so does VLC

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Kelerion:

ahh okies.. I get the same error.. I bet you don't have libdvdcss installed

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Juski:

and ogle

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asperon:

i've used vlc under windows, and its nice

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asperon:

Kelerion: probably not

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asperon:

can i just apt-get it?

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Kelerion:

what dist are you on?

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asperon:

knoppix

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asperon:

or rather knopmyth

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Juski:

not_myth ;-)

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Kelerion:

probaby.. not sure

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asperon:

hmm, cant seem to find it, ill have a look at how my sources.list looks

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D-side:

happy new year.

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Kelerion:

I just nearly had a heartattack.. I heard someone talking downstairs.. it's the mobo's speech bios thing.. havent heard it for months! lol

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Juski:

speech bios?!!!!

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Kelerion:

yeah.. whenever it's rebooting you hear things like "Computer now booting operating system" and stuff

[14:51:00]

Kelerion:

it's called "speech

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Kelerion:

post reporter

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Kelerion:

"

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TylerGalus:

ooh my parent's pc does that.. freaked the hell outta me the first time

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Kelerion:

yup.. lol

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Kelerion:

I've got a couple of A7N8X mobo's.. it's on those

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Juski:

what is the point of that ffs?

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Juski:

maybe for the visually impaired...

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Juski:

and ricers ;)

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Kelerion:

it's supposed to replace the "beep beep beep" if there's a problem with your machine

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TylerGalus:

or if you're not running a monitor on the pc?

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TylerGalus:

btw while i'm re-installing php does anyone know how i get mythbackend to run as non-root at bootup in gentoo?

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Kelerion:

you can replace the messages with wav files from a windows app.. you could *really* freak someone out who rebooted your machine.. lol

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TylerGalus:

ooh nice idea Kel

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TylerGalus:

;)

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Kelerion:

but mainly it's pointless and got disabled after the novelty factor wore off

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Kelerion:

at least it did on one machine.. now I'll have to do it with the other

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Juski:

to hell with putting speech into the BIOS.. have the OS in flash instead :)

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TylerGalus:

lol i can think of a good one... grab the "I LIVE" sound from Sinistar ;)

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Kelerion:

I love that idea.. instant booting :)

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Juski:

or at least the kernel :)

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Juski:

Kelerion: it's on its way, thanks to Intel

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** Kelerion wonders how many calls the mobo manufactuers support lines will get when that happens **

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TylerGalus:

how would i have mythtv automatically queue up the transcoder after it marks the commercials?

[14:59:00]

D-side:

Juski: thanks to intel? you're not talking about their EFI crap are you? :)

[14:59:00]

Juski:

D-side – might be EFI – but whatever – it's a step forwards IMHO

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asperon:

Kelerion: installing libdvd sloved it, thnx

[15:00:00]

Kelerion:

sloved?

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asperon:

is there a howto or a recommended way to tune the channels?

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Kelerion:

oh solved

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D-side:

Juski: I can't argue that, but we can't go around having people believe Intel invented it either. :)

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asperon:

now the dvd playback works

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Juski:

D-side – true :)

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asperon:

sorry, typing to fast =)

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Juski:

asperon: that'll be you sorted now is it?

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D-side:

I've got a slightly off-topic question on hardware, but here's as good a place as any. anyone use the antec NeoHE power supplies? I think I desperately want one.

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Kelerion:

D-side – nope.. not me

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asperon:

Juski: after i get the tv card tuned, yes 0)

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TylerGalus:

get the OCX Modstream one... antec's support blows

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Kelerion:

I wish Sky would publish a list of their channel numbers on their website

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Kelerion:

would make life a lot easier

[15:03:00]

Juski:

Kelerion: have they changed them all yet?

[15:03:00]

Juski:

just get a dbox2.. channel numbers change every 2 freakin minutes

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TylerGalus:

i got the ANTEC NEO ps and it didn't have the cables listed (including not having the 24–20 pin adapter which i really needed) and when i called their tech support (at 3pm their time) none of their departments answered.. they finally called me back 3 days later

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Kelerion:

don't know to be honest.. they should have done.. they started it in november

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Juski:

detachable cables.. ricer features if you ask me

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Kelerion:

what is ricer?

[15:04:00]

Juski:

like 'go faster' LEDs

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Juski:

afaik a ricer is the PC equivalent of a boy-racer car modder

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Kelerion:

ah okies.. makes sense.. lol

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Kelerion:

I can't do with stuff like that

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Kelerion:

I like nice sleek cases

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Juski:

there aren't enough good looking media PC cases yet

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Juski:

ones _without_ VFDs & go-faster stripes

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Juski:

VFDs suck... where are the OLEDs? ;-)

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D-side:

Juski: normally i'd agree, but they're necessary with the case i've got.

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Juski:

I think I might have a play with my new Dremel today

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D-side:

ooh. maybe i want one of those

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D-side:

its my "after-christmas buying spree" for myself. :)

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TylerGalus:

is there an easy way to remove all entries in the recordedmarkup table (80000+ entries) except for a specific start time?

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Juski:

TylerGalus: what I'd do there is just blast the table, then to rebuild the markup entry for the recording you want, just commflag it

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Juski:

recordedmarkup table is seek info, edit points & the like

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TylerGalus:

oh ok.. that's the commercial flag info? can i nuke that while it's recording/adding to the table?

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TylerGalus:

cause i may have figured out a way to leave the info from the currently recording show

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Juski:

TylerGalus: I wouldn't if I were you

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TylerGalus:

sweet... i only have 1 show in watch recordings now and that's correct :) thanks

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Chacabaou:

Should I set mythweb's constant 'hostname' to the individual hostname-value of my backend (= not the real hostname)?

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Juski:

right.. that's 2 people helped today... quota reached ;)

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D-side:

good job. :)

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laga:

Juski: time for a beer, i think. :)

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Juski:

hey laga! happy new year fella!

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D-side:

laga: happy new year

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Juski:

too early for wine, so beer it is!

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laga:

Juski: thanks, prost neujahr to you guys as well ;)

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laga:

so, what are your new year's resolutions?

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TylerGalus:

ok my cable co hates me... last week shows were 10 min late.. last night they were 5.. now they're on time o.O

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TylerGalus:

grrr

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D-side:

laga: mine? none. :D

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** Juski doesn't make NY resolutions **

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Juski:

found out my stereo goes up to 11 last night though.. really

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laga:

neither do I. but i had my last smoke 16 hours and 46 minutes ago. let's see :P

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laga:

to 11? that's a lot.

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Juski:

it really does.. dunno why '11' though.. mebbe it's some reference to Spinal Tap

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Juski:

though it has Dolby surround, not Dobly ;)

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Juski:

anyway – whatever it is, it just wasn't loud _enough_

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laga:

at our party yesterday, some guy brought his 800w PA. that was loud enough.:)

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Juski:

yeh mines only 6 x 80 Watts

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Juski:

that could a new excuse not to watch liveTV thru the cable box.. it's not loud enough

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laga:

hehe.

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Juski:

sounded damn fine though.. Kaiser Chiefs live

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TylerGalus:

ok so i've fixed most of my mythtv problems.. the only one now is how (in gentoo) i get mythbackend to start as a non-root user at boot

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Juski:

TylerGalus: mine runs as root without any issues at all

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Juski:

all my recordings are owned by root aswell

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TylerGalus:

ok and i will be able to delete recordings when running the frontend as a user?

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Juski:

should be able to

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Juski:

the backend does the deletion lark

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TylerGalus:

ok then i'm good... thanks for all the help

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Juski:

Ii _think_

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** Juski goes to check the oven **

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asperon:

can anybody point me to a howto/guide on how to tune the tuner on a pvr250 in myth?

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Kelerion:

sorry.. not me.. I use an external tuner

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asperon:

ok

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asperon:

found ivtv-tune, seems it can dump the found channels

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asperon:

then i guess i just have to look at each

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Merlin83b:

Anyone have much experience with DVB-T on Myth?

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t00m:

yes Merlin83b

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D-side:

asperon: still here?

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Merlin83b:

Any chance you're in the UK, t00m?

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t00m:

not quite

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asperon:

D-side: yes

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Merlin83b:

I'm getting choppy channels on one multiplex.

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D-side:

asperon: i had to use the tuner kernel module from bt878

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D-side:

bttv i mean

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asperon:

D-side: with the pvr250?

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Merlin83b:

When you do dvbscan, the FEC_ valued are the lp_code_rate and then lp_code_rate, right?

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D-side:

asperon: yep

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D-side:

asperon: no bttv cards, but i had to build the bttv modules just for the kernel module.

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t00m:

never did dvbscan

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D-side:

i have no idea if thats the accepted way to do it, but it works for me

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asperon:

D-side: ok, ill poke around a bit more, if i fail ill try that

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Merlin83b:

t00m: It all just worked for you?

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t00m:

eh.i used tzap and scan

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t00m:

to see if its working

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t00m:

and then used the channel editor to create a transport

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t00m:

thingie

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t00m:

and then myth scan and then i had to delete 100000 channels

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Merlin83b:

Blimey.

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t00m:

and then it worked

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Merlin83b:

It's all pretty much worked for me right away, just this one choppy channel :<

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Esotericisms:

http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/mini_itx/epia/ <-- anybody use this motherboard in a mini-tx computer?

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Merlin83b:

I do, Esotericisms.

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Merlin83b:

M10000

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** asperon does to i think, i have a hush mini-itx **

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t00m:

what does it do if you play it with mplayer or any other tv software?

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Merlin83b:

Then you do :-)

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Esotericisms:

does mythtv agree with the s-video out?

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Merlin83b:

t00m: I haven't tried, but it's the same on recordings and live tv.

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asperon:

Esotericisms: from what i can tell, yes

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Merlin83b:

Esotericisms: I'm using the RCA at the moment. Cant'see why the S video would cause any problems.

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Esotericisms:

hrm ok

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t00m:

s video has nothing to do with myth, it's X

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Esotericisms:

well true, I should ask does anyone use the s-video on it?

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Merlin83b:

t00m: It's going to record a minute's worth shortly, I'll try that in another viewer.

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t00m:

you could just cat the device into a file

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asperon:

Esotericisms: i use my s-video out, but since my tv lacks s-video i use an adapter and plug it in via composite (this is just since i was lazy, cant say i see any differens from using the composite out)

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Esotericisms:

I just want to make sure that I don't need to get a case that won't fit a pci card and then not have the s-video out on the motherboard not agree with X

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Esotericisms:

well if you are using s-video -> converter(composite) -> tv then your s-video works on the board with X ... what linux distrib are you using?

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Merlin83b:

t00m: Playng on this PC with realplayer it seems to be okay (soundless though)

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Arkkis:

how can I remove all local video-file references from the database?

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Arkkis:

as it scans for the videos on my computer, it each time finds out that some files are missing

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Arkkis:

but apparently it can not delete the database entry

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Arkkis:

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Merlin83b:

Arkkis: Are you comfortable with SQL?

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asperon:

Esotericisms: its knoppix

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t00m:

merlin: strange

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asperon:

or rather, knoppmyth

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Arkkis:

well, I've used some back when I did php stuff, but not too, I'd prefer to have a good tool for it (and I've yet to manage to install phpmyadmin on this computer)

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Merlin83b:

t00m: Pretty much. Have you seen the soundless issue before with just dumping the DVB stream?

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Merlin83b:

Arkkis: mythweb?

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asperon:

this tuning is driving me crazy, if any body guide me on to how to tune my pvr250 i would be greatfull (a howto will do if you know of one)

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Arkkis:

php does not yet work on this computer, some compile error

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t00m:

merlin: can't really remember. i'll just dump a few secs on mine

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Arkkis:

Merlin83b, if you could tell me the right table from the database to clear, and the clear command so that mythtv would not die because of it

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Merlin83b:

Arkkis: I'm not certain but I'd guess at videometadata

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Juski:

Merlin83b: choppy multiplex eh? might be a signal level issue

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Arkkis:

hmm, I'll have to try to remember the sql commands then and find that table, verify it's content and then somehow clear it. that is, unless someone can tell me the right command

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Juski:

and Merlin83b: set your DVB tuner to use TS recording in mythtv-setup and restart mythbackend

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Merlin83b:

Juski: It's just one channel on one multiplex though – would that cause it?

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Juski:

Merlin83B: possibly

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Merlin83b:

Juski: Is that for the sound issue?

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Juski:

but setting the tuner to use TS might fix that too

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Merlin83b:

I'll give it a go.

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Juski:

I had issues playing back some BBC1 recordings a while ago – setting the tuners to TS fixed it

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Merlin83b:

Ooh...

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t00m:

merlin: has sound

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Merlin83b:

Weird, do you use the TS think Juski is talking about?

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Juski:

in 0.19 you wont have the choice... it'll be TS or TS

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Juski:

(not _strictly_ true but you won't have the option to choose in mythtv-setup) so it's been said

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t00m:

think so

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Merlin83b:

I'll give that a go, back in a sec...

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t00m:

is there an option in mythsetup now?

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t00m:

for TS

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Juski:

Merlin83b: it's due to some channels sometimes having more than one audio stream, and myth sometimes picks the wrong one. the blank one is used for audio description for the blind

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Juski:

yes

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Juski:

under 'advanced' in tuner card setup

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D-side:

when's 0.19 coming out?

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Juski:

er.. when it's ready

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Juski:

no official schedule

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netrix:

anyone know how i can get mythfrontend to use a proxy server for things like mythwether and mythbrowser?

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netrix:

it doesn't seem to honour the http_proxy environment variable.

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GreyFoxx:

hrm.... I'm not sure if I've ever seen a proxy setting

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D-side:

Juski: yeah, yeah i deserved that.

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t00m:

setup a transparent proxy on your router :)

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netrix:

yeah i dug through all the settings and didn't find one either.

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D-side:

asked it out of reflex. heh

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D-side:

now, bbl.

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netrix:

t00m: i thought of that too, considering it as a last resort.

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PsychoI3oy:

i seem to have the classic "my sblive doesn't work with mythtv" problem

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PsychoI3oy:

searching the mailing lists yeilds either no fixes or 'it works now thanks' with no explanation

[17:05:00]

Fitzsimmons:

is there a way to get mythtv to use a little more RAM

[17:05:00]

Fitzsimmons:

my HDD is constantly going at it whenever I watch a show

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PsychoI3oy:

using: gentoo, 2.6.7 kernel, the latest mythtv in portage, bttv driver as a module, emu10k1 alsa driver in kernel, xorg, enlightenment, and a partrige in a pair tree

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dougl:

any hdtv enthusiasts here? – tv crapped out and looking into what I need.

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PsychoI3oy:

the leadtek wintv2k is plugged into the internal aux audio input (right next to the cd audio) on the sound card

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thanatoast:

Can I get some help with nuvexport? I ran --debug and have the results not that I have a clue what it all means :)

[17:06:00]

PsychoI3oy:

and my forehead reads KJHGFD backwards from banging it into the keyboard

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PsychoI3oy:

tvtime works fine, though the volume controls don't (alsamixer changing 'aux' does though)

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PsychoI3oy:

all other audio works fine, i've tried telling mythtv to use /dev/dsp, /dev/adsp, /dev/snd/[everything]

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PsychoI3oy:

but i get no audio with mythtv when watching tv

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Fitzsimmons:

dougl: I just got one yesterday

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Fitzsimmons:

dougl: works nicely

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dougl:

Fitzsimmons: do you knwo the difference between the terms hd and hd ready?... I use dvb on PC so I don't really think I need all the bells and whistles that are currently available.

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Fitzsimmons:

...

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Fitzsimmons:

"hd ready" eh

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Fitzsimmons:

sounds like marketspeek

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PsychoI3oy:

from what i remember, hd ready means that it's got component inputs but no hd tuner built in

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Merlin83b:

Argh. Juski/t00m: It's much better but still just not quite right.

[17:11:00]

PsychoI3oy:

such that you'd need a hd box from your cable/satellite provider

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dougl:

Fitzsimmons: it all sounds like that for me... and being a bit paranoid makes shopping not too much fun – need to rely on my internet friends to help me avoid the pitfalls

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Kelerion:

I thought "HD Ready" was full HD.. and "HD Compatible" was the bad one

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PsychoI3oy:

whereas true hd will grab hd off hd antenna

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Fitzsimmons:

dougl: to be honest my Dad did a lot of the comparison shopping

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PsychoI3oy:

Kelerion, those are the progressive scan digital tvs that only do 480p natively but can downscale from 720p or 1040i

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Fitzsimmons:

I just looked at what he came up with in the end and said "yeah, that looks pretty good"

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PsychoI3oy:

i sold plasma tvs at gateway when they first came out

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dougl:

PsychoI3oy: that is what I thot... and since I am using dvb+PC I can get the hd ready clearence stock with out any noticable consequence?

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Fitzsimmons:

I don't think the videocard on this computer can do native HD resolutions though

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Fitzsimmons:

I don't think many cards can

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PsychoI3oy:

dougl, yeah, i assume so

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PsychoI3oy:

Fitzsimmons, your monitor runs at higher resolution and framerate than hdtv

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PsychoI3oy:

1280x1024x70hz is over double the bandwidth of a hdtv stream

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dougl:

not many cards can but I suspect it is due the the mpeg2/mpeg4 transition... once that has stablized you will see more mfg making hd out cards

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PsychoI3oy:

however, it's also a lot of video to process, so you'd need a decent capture card that can decode without sucking processor power

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dougl:

Fitzsimmons: not so much can't do but don't have the output.

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|Slurpee|:

when i setup debian fro mythtv, what are some of the things i should install with it ?

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dougl:

PsychoI3oy: I was wondering if you could dumb up the 'p' and 'i' stuff when you get a chance?

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Fitzsimmons:

PsychoI3oy: my monitor has nothing to do with it. I'm saying that even with the modelines set for my HDTV, it doesn't want to output native HD resolutions

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dougl:

Fitzsimmons: what kind of card?

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Fitzsimmons:

ATI 9250

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Fitzsimmons:

not like I bought the thing with any expectations :P

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Fitzsimmons:

cheapest card I could find :D

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dougl:

hw mpeg2?

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Fitzsimmons:

nope

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dougl:

hd cable?

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dougl:

cheapest – I got a ati mpeg2 decoder for 5 bucks the other day... have no idea if it works tho.

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Fitzsimmons:

I've got a DVI to HDMI cable, but I'm using 15 pin DBI VGA to the TV right now

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Fitzsimmons:

that was one of the features: it has a PC VGA input

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PsychoI3oy:

huh

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dougl:

Fitzsimmons: ... hmmm, that is odd – and we are talking about you x config right?

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Fitzsimmons:

yes

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dougl:

wow – I dunno anything about it myself but according to marketspeek info I have learned you should be good to go.

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dougl:

PsychoI3oy: 720p and 720i what is the difference?

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PsychoI3oy:

interlaced vs progressive scan

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dougl:

progressive and interlaced

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dougl:

ah...

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dougl:

and progressive is what we want

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PsychoI3oy:

yes

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PsychoI3oy:

computer monitors are inherently progressive scan

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PsychoI3oy:

hence all the deinterlacing filters for normal tv (480i) on computers

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Merlin83b:

Juski: t00m: More weirdness. Another minute recorded with TS recording set. Live TV and the recording play back slightly choppily. If I grab it off the myth box and play it on this PC it's absolutely fine.

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Merlin83b:

Any more ideas?

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PsychoI3oy:

ah well, i can always switch back to windows and use the pvr software that came with the card to record stuff while i'm not here

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PsychoI3oy:

oh, and FYI: Kari from Mythbusters is hot

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Beirdo:

xris around?

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dougl:

so what I have learned is I need a 1080x720p display with a vga input and I am good to start learning hd via dvb+pc?

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Beirdo:

guess not

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t00m:

merlin: increase buffer size

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Merlin83b:

t00m: Is that in mythtv-setup?

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Arkkis:

hey, is visor theme somehow outdated, as it fails in the epg and myth crashes?

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Arkkis:

I'd love to use visor theme, but I hate it crashing

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t00m:

merlin: no idea if it's possible at all

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t00m:

just a funny idea

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Merlin83b:

Oh, heh.

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Merlin83b:

Seems to be enough for other channels :-)

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tanq:

do you have to do anything special to lircmd.conf?

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tanq:

or is the default config fine

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Rob-ix:

Hi, I'm having some problems with 'over-the-air' program guide. They just don't seem to work. I enabled dvb-eit during compilation and I've updated all channel so that useonairguide=1, but I'm still not seeing any EPG info. I have had it working once, last year sometime (on another computer), so I know that I can receive them. But it just won't show them. I've probably missed something very obvious so any ideas would be appreciated.

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tanq:

how do i make lircmd move the mouse constantly instead of in ticks

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tanq:

i want a smooth scroll

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BloodHawk:

You may want to do something like use a joystick driver with the remote? I can't remember where I saw it or if it applies here though.

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Juski:

Arkkis: themes don't cause crashes, usually

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Juski:

that is, unless they have missing elements, but mythtv should give you a descriptive error message about that

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asperon:

does anybody know how to change the default input to scantv? it tries to use "television", but my pvr250 only has composite0–3, tuner0 and svideo0–3

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asperon:

the frequency id in the channel editor, where can i find them?

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Juski:

asperon: there's a utility called ivtv-tune I think

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asperon:

Juski: yes, i have tried that, cant get it to work the way i want though

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asperon:

aha, now i might be getting somewhere =)

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Arkkis:

Juski, visor seems to have an missing element then, it's in the epg when I want to see program info

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Juski:

Arkkis: are you using SVN?

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Juski:

only asking because there are some new theme elements needed for SVN which arent yet in every theme

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Arkkis:

svn?

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Arkkis:

if it's a version of myth, I think no, I emerged from the gentoo portage

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teevee:

hey

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teevee:

anyone help me with the "prebuffering pause" message please??

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Arkkis:

I get a bunch of those too

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teevee:

it plays fine until I try to skip forward or backward then it pauses about once per second with that message

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teevee:

i've been fighting this for a week and still haven't found a solution

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teevee:

should be as easy as

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teevee:

the prebuffering catching up

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teevee:

like catch up dammit

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Fitzsimmons:

maybe the performance is just too low?

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Fitzsimmons:

what're the specs on the machine?

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teevee:

it's a P3 1 GHz.. 512 MB of RAM

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Fitzsimmons:

ehhh, depends on the codec I guess

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teevee:

it plays just FINE until i try to skip backward or forward

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Fitzsimmons:

and then you get these prebuffering errors

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Fitzsimmons:

/messages

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teevee:

they coincide with the pauses

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teevee:

backend is running on a different computer

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teevee:

so P3 1GHz should be plenty for frontend only

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teevee:

running 640x480 on GF4 4000MX

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teevee:

AGP 8X, 64MB..

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teevee:

so what can I try to speed it up so it doesn't spew prebuffering pause

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Fitzsimmons:

frontend only eh

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Fitzsimmons:

so is it getting the movie over the network?

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teevee:

yes

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teevee:

i do the same with my athlon64 laptop and it runs just fine

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Beirdo:

heya xris

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Beirdo:

:)

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Beirdo:

mythweb's README should say about the requirements in the settings table :)

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teevee:

heh

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titanium_platypu:

okay I have a problem that's really pissing me off:

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teevee:

i'm trying to switch my backend over from wireless to wired

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Beirdo:

of course, nothing reading the source couldn't tell me

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titanium_platypu:

I just changed my system to Ubuntu, and installed MythTV,

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teevee:

of course, it's not working

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titanium_platypu:

and for some reason it's picking up the sound from the microphone jack on my sound card instead of the line-in....

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titanium_platypu:

what the crap?

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Beirdo:

it's called a mixer

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titanium_platypu:

oh, okay. it's called a mixer. so what do I do?

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laga:

alsamixer. and RTFM instead of swearing

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Beirdo:

you will need to set the capture source

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Beirdo:

I'll leave the details to the interested student, I don't use ALSA

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Beirdo:

:)

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titanium_platypu:

sorry, that was kind of stupid.

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titanium_platypu:

okay, thanks

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titanium_platypu:

now I shall watch some of the Twilight Zone Marathon :-D

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Beirdo:

and that is how one deals with a dumbass :)

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laga:

:>

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Cromz:

so... Beirdo do you edit the mythlogbots logs? *snicker*

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Beirdo:

not usually

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Cromz:

lol

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phatmonkey^iBook:

mkay, this is really annoying me now

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phatmonkey^iBook:

I'm running knoppmyth

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phatmonkey^iBook:

I'm watching a recorded program on a channel that's juust in range (dvb-t/freeview)

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phatmonkey^iBook:

at random points, the sound stops and the video fast forwards

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phatmonkey^iBook:

I skip back, and it does it at the same point

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phatmonkey^iBook:

you need to skip just after to get it playing properly again

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phatmonkey^iBook:

however, this doesn't happen on my mac client!

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phatmonkey^iBook:

what on earth is up with the linux client?!

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phatmonkey^iBook:

it happens on all the recordings from the channel

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phatmonkey^iBook:

lost is on that channel, and I have to watch it on my mac instead of the tv D:

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Beirdo:

get a stronger signal, who knows?

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phatmonkey^iBook:

yeah, I'm going to try and adjust the aerial at some point

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Netslayer:

anyone ever hear about the conexant 883 chipset? It's a full software chipset isn't it?

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thanatoast:

Would someone help me with nuvexport? I ran --debug and have the results but dunno how to use them to troubleshoot the problem.

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laga:

thanatoast: you should run the commands and see what error it gives you

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thanatoast:

laga: It gives three commands: make s tmp directory, then it runs mythtranscode, but never seems to be doing anything...no cpu usage but I never get the shell prompt back

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thanatoast:

Since it says "forking" in the debug, should I run each of those commands in a seperate shell?

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GreyFoxx:

Man, I hope that telnet interface gets in soon. I wanna start playing with that

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laga:

yep! mythtranscode is umm supposed to do that :)

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thanatoast:

OK, I will run each in a seperate sheel and see what it does

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thanatoast:

er, shell

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thanatoast:

urecognized option -vtag, apparently because I can't use ffmpeg to make divx files. Can't make mpeg, running out of options...

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hpAuto:

anyone know why mythmusic won't play new songs

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hpAuto:

keeps replaying the same song

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Arkkis:

repeat on?

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hpAuto:

I don't see an option like that, where is it?

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hpAuto:

I can select playlists, that's about it

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Arkkis:

press 1?

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Arkkis:

err

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Arkkis:

2

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hpAuto:

haha, oh ok

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hpAuto:

damn, why did that change from updating

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hpAuto:

oh wait, no that still won't choose a new track

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hpAuto:

all cooses next track?

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xris:

anyone know how to convert ts to ps? I can't find the package with the ts2ps program in it

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xris:

heck, can't even find the dvb-mpegtools project home page

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hpAuto:

ah ok, yea all chooses next track

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hpAuto:

that's weird though, cause like I had to rechoose that

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hpAuto:

record in ps?

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hpAuto:

or maybe transcode ot it

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xris:

hpAuto: hdtv/dvb comes in as ts, no choice

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GreyFoxx:

ts2ps is part of the dvb_mpegtools

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GreyFoxx:

It's just a symlink to the dvb_mpegtools_main .. the app just acts differently based on the name you used to call it

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xris:

GreyFoxx: yeah, finally found the home page so I could get source to make a package

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xris:

also found the separated replex program which may do the trick

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GreyFoxx:

I found replex caused corrupted output on the couple I tried, but ts2ps worked on the same files

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GreyFoxx:

but I don't use either anymore

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xris:

need something so I can get nuvexport working on HD streams

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hpAuto:

anyone else found problems with the mythmusic visual with the rotating gears?

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GreyFoxx:

yeah, I stopped transcoding under Linux. When I was I found ts2ps to work best

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hpAuto:

it always causes mythfrontend to crash

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xris:

GreyFoxx: well, will test both

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qfx:

Hello hello

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qfx:

Happy New Year everybody!

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qfx:

anybody using MythWeb?

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xris:

I do

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Fitzsimmons:

I just hack the DB manually ^^

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qfx:

With it can you stream to a windows box on the same LAN? (100mbps)

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xris:

if you browse to mythweb's recording section from a windows box, you get myth:// url's that will work with the dsmyth filters for windows

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Fitzsimmons:

does it have a streaming feature? I doubt it

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qfx:

if you have DSMyth filters on the Windows side

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awb4422:

does anyone use a pvr-x50 and use cutlists while transcoding? I have a few questions about it

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qfx:

great, thanks xris

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Fitzsimmons:

oh cool xris

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xris:

hmm, either this is very slow or it's not working at all

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xris:

ahh, didn't quite have it right

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xris:

hmm, that still doesn't work.. with or without ts, it freaks

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xris:

woah, it worked

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xris:

oh, it's not hd

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jonK:

shell question: what is bash interpreting "g[" as?

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CyberKnet:

g[

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CyberKnet:

hth

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jonK:

indeed, but it switched the prompt to just a ">" and then froze

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CyberKnet:

hmm

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CyberKnet:

don't usr g[ then =)

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CyberKnet:

google PS1

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xris:

jonK: man test

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dasOp:

[] is for char ranges and the like

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dasOp:

if you must use special chars, escape them like \[

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thanatoast:

I managed to get nuvexport to "work" I told it do do asf, it spent 36 minutes and 11 seconds encoding 55579 of 0 frames and seems to have created no new file. Any ideas?

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Beirdo:

looks like it's working

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thanatoast:

Not sure I understand what it is doing. How can there be 55,579 of 0 frames

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Beirdo:

because the tool nuvexport uses didn't return the frame count in the form expected

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Beirdo:

or something

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Beirdo:

it was working

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thanatoast:

But it never made a file

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Beirdo:

it should have

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thanatoast:

Hmm, I guess I will record 5 minutes of something and mess with that, instead of waiting 40 minutes for each test.

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Beirdo:

good plan

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thanatoast:

I'm sure I'll be back :)

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eiggirC:

thanatoast: 10 seconds should be ample for a test

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Kelerion:

have never looked at these "User Job" before – am I right in thinking that I could use it to specify a nuvexport to archive a show after I've finished watching it and setting cutpoints etc?

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jonK:

!li

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jonK:

oops.. wrong name... never mind

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thanatoast:

See....I'm back!

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thanatoast:

It worked, by the way :)

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xris:

Kelerion: yup

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xris:

well, thought user jobs ran immediately after a show was recorded,though

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GreyFoxx:

Damn I hate Webforums... ugh

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xris:

new nuvexport posted that recognizes cvs ffmpeg's renamed options

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** xris grumbles, still doesn't work with HD streams **

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Fitzsimmons:

GreyFoxx: why do you hate forums?

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Beirdo:

because they suck

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