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| [00:36:00] | Umaro: | hey guys.. trying to figure out if there's a way to import my divx-encoded tv shows into mythtv? |
| [00:36:00] | Umaro: | looks like mythtv uses some sort of lossless mpeg2 codec for storing recorded tv shows |
| [00:37:00] | dtm: | Umaro: there's no such thing as lossless mpeg2 |
| [00:37:00] | dtm: | fyi |
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| [00:38:00] | Umaro: | ok |
| [00:38:00] | Umaro: | but it's some huge high-quality format |
| [00:38:00] | Juski: | dtm: there's a new lossles mpeg2 cutter in the svn version apparently |
| [00:38:00] | dtm: | oic |
| [00:39:00] | Umaro: | and I have these TV show episodes in divx. I'd like to merge them into mythtv, but I can only do so if I put them in /myth/video |
| [00:39:00] | Juski: | Umaro: you can create entries for them in the database |
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| [00:40:00] | Juski: | but erm... nobody here encourages using downloaded TV shows |
| [00:40:00] | Umaro: | oic |
| [00:40:00] | Umaro: | for ethical reasons, or just because it's usually lower quality? |
| [00:41:00] | Juski: | ethical |
| [00:41:00] | Umaro: | oic |
| [00:41:00] | Juski: | last thing mythtv needs is lawyers running after it wanting to sue our asses off |
| [00:41:00] | Umaro: | yeah |
| [00:42:00] | Umaro: | well, so if I get a capture card, i'd like to have captured TV shows compressed, ideally with something like xvid. is there support for that in mythtv? |
| [00:43:00] | Juski: | yup: you can transcode them |
| [00:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | Depending on what format they are recording in they can be transcoded into mpeg4 or whatever |
| [00:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | If myth does the transcoding for you they will be stored in a .nuv format, not AVI |
| [00:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | You can certainly transcode them from outside however either manually or with nuvexport |
| [00:44:00] | Juski: | the day mythtv stores stuff it creates in AVI format will be a cold one in hell ;-) |
| [00:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | and importing an external one is a simple entry into the database |
| [00:44:00] | Umaro: | ok |
| [00:45:00] | Kabutor: | Umaro you can use the mythvideo plugin, if you qwant to watch them |
| [00:45:00] | Umaro: | yeah, that's what i've got going right now |
| [00:46:00] | Umaro: | unfortunately, then I lose all the TV info, and they are mixed in with my movies. |
| [00:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use mythvideo for all my non recorded+compressed content |
| [00:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | I sort mine based on directories :) |
| [00:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | /data/video/TV/Show/Season1/episode.avi |
| [00:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | /data/video/Movies/Comedy/show.avi |
| [00:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | etc |
| [00:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | makes it easy to know where anything is :) |
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| [00:47:00] | Kabutor: | there must be something like if the right 5 char are Scifi put this image on top, as with movies but for series |
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| [00:47:00] | Juski: | GreyFoxx: that's what I do now.. now I found out how to make the 'browsable' flag work ;) |
| [00:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | Juski: Hehe I've always used the browseable flag...since it was added that is |
| [00:48:00] | Umaro: | lastly, is there a good value capture card that you guys can recommend? |
| [00:48:00] | Kabutor: | GreyFoxx, I fix the mythgame – year bug |
| [00:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kabutor: You can place a cover.jpg or coverfile.jpg in a directory and it will be used as a default "poster" for all shows in that directory unless they have ther own specific folder |
| [00:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kabutor: Oh? cool. I haven't had time to look at it yet |
| [00:49:00] | Kabutor: | rominfo.cpp line 135 change to year = data; |
| [00:49:00] | Juski: | GreyFoxx: I'd always _set_ it for stuff I didn't want to see, but never worked out how it always showed up |
| [00:49:00] | Kabutor: | inestead of year = data.toInt(); |
| [00:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | Ahhhhhhh no wonder |
| [00:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | someone undid a change I made |
| [00:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | I changed that and someone accidentily reverted it when they made some changes |
| [00:50:00] | Kabutor: | Oh! thx for the tip of coverfile.jpg didnt knew that :) |
| [00:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | cool, saved me from having to look :) |
| [00:50:00] | sri: | GreyFoxx: kill them. kill them and then go everyone they know. |
| [00:50:00] | Kabutor: | no problem, was driving me crazy |
| [00:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kabutor: I might have the filename wrong, but it's something like that |
| [00:50:00] | sri: | +after |
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| [00:50:00] | ** GreyFoxx fires up vmware ** | |
| [00:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kabutor: Ummmm what version of SVN are you runnin? |
| [00:52:00] | Kabutor: | no idea :) |
| [00:53:00] | Kabutor: | mythvideo version? |
| [00:53:00] | Kabutor: | sorry mythplugins? |
| [00:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | go into the directory and type "svn info" |
| [00:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah |
| [00:53:00] | Kabutor: | Revision: 8141 |
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| [00:54:00] | Kabutor: | maybe was already fixed that? I look for in the mailing list but didnt see nothing.. |
| [00:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | Actually no, this was my fault, I overwrote it before I did that last commit on it |
| [00:55:00] | Fitzsimmons: | I think my configuration is screwed up |
| [00:55:00] | Fitzsimmons: | you're not supposed to listen to the audio that comes through on the line in, are you? |
| [00:55:00] | Fitzsimmons: | that's supposed to be read by mythtv and encoded |
| [00:56:00] | Fitzsimmons: | and you listen to the decoding of the stream |
| [00:56:00] | Fitzsimmons: | correct? |
| [00:56:00] | Kabutor: | mute it in the playback |
| [00:56:00] | Kabutor: | just select in the recording |
| [00:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kabutor: Change is commited, thanks. I didn't notice it before I commited it :) |
| [00:57:00] | Fitzsimmons: | Kabutor: I don't understand what you mean |
| [00:57:00] | Kabutor: | GreyFoxx, no worries I was getting really tired of moving thorugh a huge rom list with the remote :) |
| [00:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | Fitzsimmons: Correct, you shouldn't be hearding it. You need to set the mixer to mute it. there is a section on it in the mythtv.org docs |
| [00:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's been a long time since I last setup a bttv card with myth :) |
| [00:58:00] | Kabutor: | I have a bt848 atm |
| [00:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | I have several bt cards on a shelf heh |
| [00:58:00] | Kabutor: | I have to push it a bit to fit, those are big, into the barebone |
| [00:59:00] | kormoc: | yeah, tuners are a bit on the large size |
| [00:59:00] | Fitzsimmons: | k so I used these commands... |
| [00:59:00] | Kabutor: | Well You have to see my nexus dvb-s |
| [00:59:00] | Fitzsimmons: | amixer set Master,0 100%,100% unmute |
| [00:59:00] | Fitzsimmons: | and the rest of them in that part of the doc |
| [01:00:00] | Kabutor: | that didnt fit into the Pundit-R, so I cant use it and cost me 400 € a couple of years ago |
| [01:00:00] | Kabutor: | its like two PCI cards together long |
| [01:00:00] | Fitzsimmons: | but I can still hear it... |
| [01:01:00] | Kabutor: | Fitzsimmons, exec alsamixer and mute it |
| [01:01:00] | Fitzsimmons: | aha, there we go |
| [01:02:00] | Fitzsimmons: | so now what do I do to make it so that I can hear audio in mythtv? =/ |
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| [01:03:00] | Kabutor: | mute the linein not the mater |
| [01:03:00] | Kabutor: | master |
| [01:03:00] | Fitzsimmons: | that's what I did |
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| [01:04:00] | Fitzsimmons: | ah, that explains a lot |
| [01:04:00] | Fitzsimmons: | it is Aux on my machine |
| [01:04:00] | Fitzsimmons: | not line |
| [01:07:00] | Fitzsimmons: | now I just need to get the times right for the TV listings |
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| [01:12:00] | psofa: | Does anyone have an idea on why mplayer doesnt display subs on some dvds while on others it displays them fine |
| [01:12:00] | psofa: | any slightest idea would be appreciated |
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| [01:19:00] | newdebusr: | does anyone know how to get mythstreamtv to stream through a putty ssh tunnel? |
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| [01:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | ssh -LPORT:REMOTEIP:PORT: user@ssh box |
| [01:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | then just connect to the local port |
| [01:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | setup the same under putty |
| [01:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | so you tell your local box to connect to the local port that putty is portforwarding to the other end |
| [01:23:00] | newdebusr: | i'm using putty.. i figured out how to create a tunnel that can access mythweb and also ssh into my mythbox through the router firewall...but the mythstreamtv builtin to the mythweb of knoppmyth doesn't work remotely... it does work over my lan though |
| [01:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythstreamtv is using a different port, you will need to foreward that one as well |
| [01:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | I think mythstreamtv defaults to port 8001 |
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| [01:25:00] | newdebusr: | i forwarded local port 8001 to 192.168.2.110:8001 which is the address of my mythtvbox |
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| [01:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | then you should be good to go |
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| [01:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | goto wmp or whatever and open http://localhost:8001/ |
| [01:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | assuming a stream is running |
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| [01:33:00] | newdebusr: | yea it should work....i think my connection is too slow... it just sits there an nothing ever happens |
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| [01:36:00] | jcsmith: | hey all, i am in the process of building a myth box, I configured TV out on my video card, nvidia FX5200 and it is displaying on the Television |
| [01:36:00] | jcsmith: | however there are horozontal lines scrolling up the screen |
| [01:36:00] | jcsmith: | any ideas? |
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| [01:42:00] | Klatuu: | what country are you in? |
| [01:42:00] | jcsmith: | USA |
| [01:42:00] | Klatuu: | make sure it is set for NTSC |
| [01:42:00] | jcsmith: | it is set to NTSC-M |
| [01:44:00] | Klatuu: | that is correct |
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| [01:45:00] | jcsmith: | I think perhaps my horizontal refresh or vertical sync is not correct, it almost looks like when someone films a TV with a video camera and you can seen the scan lines |
| [01:46:00] | jcsmith: | err, hroizontal sync and vertical refresh |
| [01:46:00] | Klatuu: | did you make your own xorg.conf or did you use someone else's? |
| [01:47:00] | jcsmith: | i looked at a couple of howto's online and cobbeled my own together using them as reference |
| [01:47:00] | Fitzsimmons: | how do you modify the display properties |
| [01:47:00] | Fitzsimmons: | ? |
| [01:48:00] | Fitzsimmons: | I need to change the contrast |
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| [01:59:00] | jcsmith: | Could this possibly be the result of interference of some sort? If i look really close at the black console background (no x) i still see the scrolling lines |
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| [02:06:00] | Hoxzer: | hopefully in 8 hours I'm going to contruct my own Serial port ir-receiver :D |
| [02:06:00] | Hoxzer: | I didn't have had time to visit shop |
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| [02:10:00] | Arkkis: | hey, any suggestions how can I get the channels to appear. I have tvinfo running here just fine and I got the channel data from there. MythTv does not seem to be able to change the channel for some reason, I've tried everything I could imagine (including google) |
| [02:10:00] | Arkkis: | I get this in the frontend when I try to switch channel: QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range |
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| [02:27:00] | jalex: | spl311 |
| [02:27:00] | jalex: | 1600cc..hmm |
| [02:27:00] | jalex: | oops, sorry, meant to type in email |
| [02:27:00] | Arkkis: | arr, I'm having no luck with the channels |
| [02:28:00] | riksta: | anyone know if you can get a d-sub to scart converter |
| [02:28:00] | riksta: | cheap? |
| [02:29:00] | Arkkis: | hmm |
| [02:29:00] | Arkkis: | I have not seen any, but that does not say much |
| [02:29:00] | Arkkis: | as I understand, scart uses similar to s-video |
| [02:30:00] | Arkkis: | and d-sub not, but I really do not know about these sort of things |
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| [02:33:00] | Fitzsimmons: | anyone at all? I just need to bring the contrast down |
| [02:33:00] | Arkkis: | Fitzsimmons, I think I saw contrast stuff in mythtv-setup |
| [02:34:00] | Arkkis: | and I mean the setup you start from the commandline |
| [02:34:00] | Fitzsimmons: | yeah |
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| [02:35:00] | Fitzsimmons: | that's on a channel by channel basis though |
| [02:35:00] | Fitzsimmons: | it it happening on every channel for me |
| [02:35:00] | Fitzsimmons: | luckily I happen to know a little bit of mysql |
| [02:35:00] | Arkkis: | =) |
| [02:35:00] | Fitzsimmons: | so it might not be that hard for me |
| [02:35:00] | Arkkis: | any idea on why I get the parameter out of range stuff? |
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| [03:01:00] | kristok: | Can blackbird-type cards (i.e. Avermedia m150) be made to work with mythtv? |
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| [03:01:00] | kristok: | it isn't clear from the archives |
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| [03:10:00] | hadees: | does anyone use mythstream for podcasts? |
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| [03:11:00] | hadees: | I gave it a rss feed formated for itunes and it gave me a link to every pair of <> |
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| [03:16:00] | bradley: | hey there, anyone here gotten Mytv compiled successfully with uClibc? |
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| [03:39:00] | kristok: | can myth record from blackbird-type devices, like the Avermedia m150? |
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| [03:39:00] | kristok: | i tried searching through the archives but couldn't find a definitive answer |
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| [03:40:00] | Weezey: | does anyone know how to add xfs to an existing fc4 installation? |
| [03:40:00] | Weezey: | I want to add a new logical volume for live tv and recordings and make it xfs |
| [03:41:00] | Weezey: | but all the xfs directions i've found say to do it on installation |
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| [04:04:00] | Kleptophobiac: | mythcommflag doesn't seem to be finding any breaks...? |
| [04:04:00] | Kleptophobiac: | it started happening as soon as I upgraded to mysql 5 |
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| [04:05:00] | Kleptophobiac: | it sits on "searching for logo" for all eternity |
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| [04:09:00] | darkdrgn2k: | hi, how do i chang my default dm? |
| [04:09:00] | Kleptophobiac: | dm? |
| [04:09:00] | darkdrgn2k: | display manager |
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| [04:10:00] | Kleptophobiac: | window manager? |
| [04:10:00] | Kleptophobiac: | are you using graphical login or "startx" or runlevel change? |
| [04:10:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Kleptophobiac: well its xdm |
| [04:10:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Kleptophobiac: but auto login would be nice too : |
| [04:10:00] | darkdrgn2k: | ) |
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| [04:11:00] | Kleptophobiac: | xdm = graphical login |
| [04:11:00] | darkdrgn2k: | yes.. |
| [04:11:00] | cosmo_: | im slightly confused on which chipset the pvr 150 uses, different howto's seem to conflict on this. Is it the BT848 that I should enable? Does this mean that the bt87x support in the sound card section will not provide hardware based audio capture? |
| [04:11:00] | Kleptophobiac: | you might want to look into ~/.xsession |
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| [04:11:00] | Kleptophobiac: | cosmo_ – no |
| [04:11:00] | Kleptophobiac: | bt848 is for software capture cards |
| [04:11:00] | darkdrgn2k: | dont have an .xsession :-S |
| [04:11:00] | Kleptophobiac: | ~/.xinitrc |
| [04:12:00] | Kleptophobiac: | or if you must |
| [04:12:00] | darkdrgn2k: | nop |
| [04:12:00] | Hoxzer: | Can you feel the base |
| [04:12:00] | darkdrgn2k: | no .xinitrc |
| [04:12:00] | Kleptophobiac: | do you have /etc/X11? |
| [04:12:00] | darkdrgn2k: | yes |
| [04:12:00] | Kleptophobiac: | with xinit/xinitrc in there? |
| [04:12:00] | darkdrgn2k: | ywep |
| [04:12:00] | Kleptophobiac: | edit that file |
| [04:12:00] | Kleptophobiac: | what's your current WM? |
| [04:12:00] | cosmo_: | Kleptophobiac, so I compile no modules in kernel, and use only ivtv? |
| [04:13:00] | darkdrgn2k: | icewm |
| [04:13:00] | cosmo_: | Kleptophobiac, and do I enbale v4l at all? |
| [04:13:00] | Kleptophobiac: | cosmo_ – enable v4l and v4l2, but don't add any of the other crap |
| [04:13:00] | Kleptophobiac: | cosmo_ and then compile ivtv for that kernel |
| [04:13:00] | Kleptophobiac: | darkdrgn2k – so change the line that starts icewm in xinitrc to the wm of your choice |
| [04:13:00] | cosmo_: | okay, thanks |
| [04:14:00] | Kleptophobiac: | cosmo_ – np |
| [04:14:00] | Cardoe: | Can some people do me some favors |
| [04:14:00] | Cardoe: | Non-Gentoo users |
| [04:15:00] | Kleptophobiac: | such as? |
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| [04:17:00] | Cardoe: | ls -l /usr/include/X11/extensions/ |
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| [04:18:00] | Esuirin: | hi |
| [04:18:00] | Esuirin: | kormoc, u there? |
| [04:18:00] | kormoc: | hihi |
| [04:19:00] | Esuirin: | i was ediehow the other day |
| [04:19:00] | Kleptophobiac: | Cardoe – what do you want to know about it |
| [04:19:00] | Esuirin: | talked to you about performance w/multitasking |
| [04:19:00] | Esuirin: | and what not |
| [04:19:00] | Esuirin: | at any rate, i booted off a knoppix dvd |
| [04:19:00] | Cardoe: | and ls -l /usr/lib/pkgconfig/ |
| [04:19:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I have a ton of header files with 444 permissions on root.root |
| [04:19:00] | Esuirin: | and it used the vesa driver for my nvidia 6200 |
| [04:19:00] | Cardoe: | maybe e-mail it to me? |
| [04:19:00] | Cardoe: | cardoe@gentoo.org |
| [04:19:00] | Cardoe: | and tell me what distro |
| [04:19:00] | Esuirin: | and i still had problems when i did things while playing a dvd |
| [04:19:00] | Kleptophobiac: | Cardoe – may I ask why the headers are of interest to you? |
| [04:19:00] | kormoc: | Esuirin, was dma enabled on your dvd drive? |
| [04:20:00] | Esuirin: | it wasn't initially when booting into knoppix, but i did enable it |
| [04:20:00] | Esuirin: | on both dvd and hard drive |
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| [04:21:00] | kormoc: | Esuirin, at this point, something is fuxored with your box, hardware related. |
| [04:21:00] | Esuirin: | would it have been cuz it was a vesa X server being used? |
| [04:21:00] | Esuirin: | kormoc, no, it works fine in XP |
| [04:21:00] | kormoc: | Esuirin, the vesa drive is unaccelleraged, aye |
| [04:21:00] | Esuirin: | hmm |
| [04:22:00] | Esuirin: | well, knoppix used the vesa driver |
| [04:22:00] | Esuirin: | but my fc4 installation used ati driver, and now nvidia driver |
| [04:22:00] | kormoc: | nvidia driver is the way to bo |
| [04:22:00] | kormoc: | *go |
| [04:22:00] | Esuirin: | wel, that's what i am using now |
| [04:22:00] | Esuirin: | i just don't understand what the problem is. for instance, if you run mplayer on a .mpg file |
| [04:22:00] | Kleptophobiac: | Cardoe – email sent |
| [04:22:00] | Esuirin: | the console window shows the status, right? |
| [04:22:00] | Esuirin: | while it is playing? |
| [04:22:00] | Esuirin: | do u know what i am referring to? |
| [04:22:00] | kormoc: | yes |
| [04:23:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: you using modular? |
| [04:23:00] | Esuirin: | ok, well, when the stutters/jolts occur in the playback when i do whatever tasks, it also stutters/jolts that status line in the console |
| [04:23:00] | Esuirin: | it stops during that time |
| [04:23:00] | Cardoe: | Kleptophobiac: just run those two commands |
| [04:23:00] | Esuirin: | if that makes sense |
| [04:23:00] | Kleptophobiac: | Cardoe – I already did, and you have mail |
| [04:23:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, no, I use the nvidia driver, so until that works, I'm gonna be stuck with non modular |
| [04:23:00] | kormoc: | Esuirin, what's the proc? |
| [04:23:00] | Esuirin: | kormoc, what do u mean? |
| [04:24:00] | kormoc: | Esuirin, system stats? |
| [04:24:00] | Esuirin: | oh, well, not much cpu is being used during the time |
| [04:24:00] | Cardoe: | hey guys |
| [04:24:00] | Esuirin: | gnome-system-monitor reports mplayer stays under 20% |
| [04:24:00] | kormoc: | Esuirin, sure, so what's the processor and motherboard chipset? |
| [04:24:00] | Cardoe: | SPDIF output just needs a mini-jack to coaxial |
| [04:24:00] | Cardoe: | and connects to the coaxial input |
| [04:24:00] | Esuirin: | but like, if i am using mplayer for whatever, and i minimize or maximize firefox |
| [04:24:00] | Esuirin: | it jolts/sutters |
| [04:24:00] | Esuirin: | i do have two monitors, btw |
| [04:24:00] | Esuirin: | i have a via apollo pro266 |
| [04:25:00] | kormoc: | Esuirin, I have three with two nvidia cards in one box and there is no issues with speed |
| [04:25:00] | Cardoe: | on a receiver right? |
| [04:25:00] | Cardoe: | Kleptophobiac: yeah they all should be that |
| [04:25:00] | Cardoe: | Kleptophobiac: I'm trying to improve MythTV's build system |
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| [04:25:00] | Kleptophobiac: | have fun |
| [04:26:00] | kormoc: | Esuirin, what kernel version are you attempting to use? |
| [04:26:00] | Esuirin: | well, i am currently using 2.6.14 |
| [04:26:00] | Esuirin: | but i allowed it to boot off of fc's stock 2.6.14 |
| [04:26:00] | Esuirin: | same problem |
| [04:26:00] | kormoc: | Esuirin, can you give a 2.4.x kernel a try? |
| [04:26:00] | Esuirin: | i can when i am home again |
| [04:26:00] | Esuirin: | someone said something about some kind of timing |
| [04:26:00] | Esuirin: | that in 2.6 changed to either 10,100,1000 |
| [04:27:00] | dou1: | I have a question about getting sound working with an MPEG-2 encoder; is this the right place? |
| [04:27:00] | kormoc: | yeah, that should be set to 1000 for a desktop system, which fedora does |
| [04:27:00] | Esuirin: | how can i check what it is set to? |
| [04:27:00] | kormoc: | Esuirin, there's been a lot of changes with the chipset stuff in 2.6.x and I wonder if it might have broke your motherboard's support |
| [04:27:00] | kormoc: | Esuirin, uhh... one sec |
| [04:28:00] | Cardoe: | Kleptophobiac: I must be lagging a little. |
| [04:28:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: I made nvidia binary work with modular weeks ago |
| [04:29:00] | kormoc: | Esuirin, cat /proc/config.gz | gzip -dc | grep CONFIG_HZ |
| [04:29:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, ooh!? How? |
| [04:30:00] | Cardoe: | just do it. |
| [04:30:00] | Esuirin: | cat /proc/config.gz | gzip -dc | grep CONFIG_HZ |
| [04:30:00] | Esuirin: | cat: /proc/config.gz: No such file or directory |
| [04:30:00] | Esuirin: | gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file |
| [04:30:00] | Cardoe: | works out of the box |
| [04:30:00] | kormoc: | Esuirin, what distro? |
| [04:30:00] | Esuirin: | fc4 |
| [04:30:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, ooh? niceness... I shall have to upgrade |
| [04:30:00] | Esuirin: | locate config.gz returns nothing |
| [04:30:00] | Kleptophobiac: | updatedb? |
| [04:31:00] | kormoc: | Esuirin, yeah, FC4 doesn't support /proc/config.gz, cause they don't want people to duplicate their kernels |
| [04:31:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I've never been a fedora person... but what's the point of that? |
| [04:31:00] | kormoc: | donno |
| [04:31:00] | kormoc: | would have to ask them |
| [04:32:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and they don't supply the config with their goofy-tastic source rpm BS? |
| [04:32:00] | kormoc: | nope |
| [04:32:00] | kormoc: | afaik |
| [04:32:00] | dou1: | Anyone able to help a new user that is really close to getting MythTV sound working with a PVR-150? |
| [04:32:00] | Esuirin: | ? |
| [04:32:00] | Esuirin: | dou1, that's what i use |
| [04:32:00] | Esuirin: | ivtv module |
| [04:33:00] | dou1: | I have sound working, and the PVR working, but not together... |
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| [04:33:00] | kristok: | Esuirin: any complaints with the 150? |
| [04:33:00] | dou1: | No, works well so far |
| [04:33:00] | Esuirin: | kristok, only that i didn't know it only encoded when i bought it:) |
| [04:33:00] | Kleptophobiac: | you thought it decoded too? |
| [04:33:00] | Kleptophobiac: | but who really cares anyway... mpeg2 is trivial to decode |
| [04:34:00] | kristok: | i have a decent nvidia card, so im not too concerned about the decode |
| [04:34:00] | Esuirin: | Kleptophobiac, well, apparently not on my system:( |
| [04:34:00] | dou1: | How do you have your sound configured for PVR150? |
| [04:34:00] | Esuirin: | i am using alsa |
| [04:34:00] | Kleptophobiac: | Esuirin – what are you running for the rest of the box? |
| [04:34:00] | kormoc: | dou1, it should just work, as the card does it all |
| [04:34:00] | kormoc: | Esuirin, hrm... dmesg shows nothing at all? |
| [04:34:00] | Esuirin: | fc4, 2ghz athlon xp |
| [04:34:00] | dou1: | I'm trying to use alsa but I get the error "mixer unable to find control Matster" |
| [04:34:00] | Esuirin: | kormoc, on what, when i multitask? |
| [04:34:00] | Esuirin: | dou1, let me see |
| [04:34:00] | kormoc: | Esuirin, yeah |
| [04:35:00] | Kleptophobiac: | Esuirin – whoa... that should be more than ample to decode mpeg2 |
| [04:35:00] | Esuirin: | i know:( |
| [04:35:00] | Kleptophobiac: | Esuirin – I decode mpeg2 and mpeg4 with no issues on a 1ghz thunderbird system |
| [04:35:00] | Esuirin: | that's why i don't understand |
| [04:35:00] | Esuirin: | Kleptophobiac, it's whenever i multitask |
| [04:35:00] | dou1: | I can aplay files, but Mythtv doesn't play the audio |
| [04:35:00] | Kleptophobiac: | :-/ |
| [04:35:00] | Esuirin: | be it simple things like min and maxing thunderbird |
| [04:35:00] | Esuirin: | err |
| [04:35:00] | Esuirin: | firefox |
| [04:36:00] | Kleptophobiac: | oh |
| [04:36:00] | Esuirin: | kormoc, i don't believe it does, no |
| [04:36:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I have no experience with multitasking with myth |
| [04:36:00] | Esuirin: | not just myth |
| [04:36:00] | Esuirin: | mplayer stuff, totem |
| [04:36:00] | Kleptophobiac: | but I've run mplayer on my laptop with no issues with minimizing and maximizing |
| [04:36:00] | Kleptophobiac: | my lappy is a 1.7 p-m |
| [04:36:00] | Kleptophobiac: | what WM? |
| [04:37:00] | mock is now known as mock-gone | |
| [04:37:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I use enlightenment and fluxbox |
| [04:37:00] | dou1: | I have tried "ALSA:default" and "default" but I get the "unable to find Master" error |
| [04:37:00] | Kleptophobiac: | dou1 did you compile myth with alsa support? |
| [04:37:00] | dou1: | I'm using FC4, with yum and I think it has all that it needs |
| [04:38:00] | Kleptophobiac: | eh, I have no idea what's included on the FC4 pkg |
| [04:38:00] | ** Kleptophobiac doesn't run bloatware ** | |
| [04:38:00] | Kleptophobiac: | :p |
| [04:38:00] | dou1: | I got it from ATrpm |
| [04:38:00] | dou1: | I think that Myth is fine, but the connection to alsa is broken |
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| [04:39:00] | Esuirin: | Kleptophobiac, it does it gnome, kde, etc |
| [04:39:00] | Kleptophobiac: | do you have an asound.conf or asoundrc to define all the devices/mixers, etc? |
| [04:39:00] | Esuirin: | i just don't understand |
| [04:39:00] | Kleptophobiac: | Esuirin, odd |
| [04:39:00] | Kleptophobiac: | Esuirin, do you have hardware video acceleration working? |
| [04:39:00] | Esuirin: | not xvmc |
| [04:39:00] | Kleptophobiac: | not that |
| [04:39:00] | Esuirin: | i am using nvidia driver, yes |
| [04:39:00] | Kleptophobiac: | but xv, general 2d stuff, 3d |
| [04:39:00] | dou1: | Yes, I have tried a few .asoundrc files, and it works directly but not with myth |
| [04:39:00] | Esuirin: | but it does the same thing w/ati driver:( |
| [04:39:00] | Kleptophobiac: | wait, why would you try both the nvidia and ati driver? |
| [04:40:00] | Kleptophobiac: | what video card do you have? |
| [04:40:00] | Esuirin: | i was having the problem with my ati radeon 9600se |
| [04:40:00] | Esuirin: | i was told i could get xvmc and what not w/nviida |
| [04:40:00] | Esuirin: | nvidia |
| [04:40:00] | Esuirin: | so i bought a 6200 |
| [04:40:00] | Esuirin: | and i am having same problem, but have not gotten xvmc working as of yet |
| [04:40:00] | Kleptophobiac: | ehh, xvmc isn't worth anything unless you have a weak CPU or have HD |
| [04:40:00] | kristok: | a 6200 should have no problem, even if xvmc isn't working |
| [04:40:00] | Esuirin: | i know:( |
| [04:40:00] | Esuirin: | it's all the multitasking silliness |
| [04:40:00] | Esuirin: | like |
| [04:41:00] | dou1: | what is the proper method to configure alsa with an MPEG-2 encoder? OSS? |
| [04:41:00] | Esuirin: | if i am playing a file in mplayer, an mpg |
| [04:41:00] | Kleptophobiac: | are you running a 2.6 preemptible kernel? |
| [04:41:00] | kormoc: | yes he is |
| [04:41:00] | Kleptophobiac: | ok |
| [04:42:00] | Esuirin: | if i am playing that file |
| [04:42:00] | Esuirin: | and console is running, showing the status |
| [04:42:00] | Kleptophobiac: | Esuirin, what niceness level is your WM running in? if it has flippant animation and whatnot and a higher priority than mplayer, then it will suck cycles away from mplayer to make a smoother animation you don't care about |
| [04:42:00] | Hoxzer: | if you are a fucking haxor 1337 and getting ownages all the time you must be da man |
| [04:42:00] | Esuirin: | once i start multitasking like w/firefox, it jolts both on video and the status line in the console |
| [04:42:00] | Esuirin: | Kleptophobiac, how can i determine? |
| [04:42:00] | Kleptophobiac: | should be able to see it with ps |
| [04:43:00] | dou1: | is there a PVR-150 plus alsa website where I could get a good .asoundrc and modprobe.conf files? |
| [04:43:00] | Kleptophobiac: | what sound card do you have? |
| [04:43:00] | Esuirin: | audigy2 |
| [04:43:00] | Kleptophobiac: | ok |
| [04:43:00] | Kleptophobiac: | go to the alsa website |
| [04:43:00] | dou1: | built in intel something |
| [04:43:00] | Kleptophobiac: | ah |
| [04:44:00] | Kleptophobiac: | dou1 – you won't need either of those two files (most likely) unless you want dmix for alsa |
| [04:44:00] | dou1: | Do I need dmix for alsa? |
| [04:44:00] | Kleptophobiac: | only if you want to have software audio mixing |
| [04:44:00] | kristok: | probably not |
| [04:44:00] | Esuirin: | root 5731 0.0 0.2 4372 1224 ? Ss Dec27 0:00 /bin/sh /etc/X11/prefdm -nodaemon |
| [04:44:00] | Esuirin: | Kleptophobiac, it does same thing for playing videos in totem |
| [04:44:00] | dou1: | ok, but it doesn't work without them either |
| [04:45:00] | Fitzsimmons: | how do you modify the cutpoints if mythtv got it wrong? |
| [04:45:00] | Esuirin: | edit mode |
| [04:45:00] | kristok: | you can get to it through the osd |
| [04:46:00] | Fitzsimmons: | well yeah |
| [04:46:00] | Fitzsimmons: | but what do you press in edit mode to actually edit stuff? |
| [04:46:00] | Esuirin: | err |
| [04:46:00] | Esuirin: | let me think |
| [04:46:00] | Esuirin: | type |
| [04:46:00] | dou1: | what settings do you use with your PVR-150 and alsa? |
| [04:46:00] | Esuirin: | "locate keys.txt" |
| [04:46:00] | Esuirin: | and it's the myth one |
| [04:46:00] | Esuirin: | it tells all |
| [04:46:00] | Hoxzer: | :D |
| [04:46:00] | kristok: | theres a button you can press to load the current cutlist |
| [04:46:00] | Esuirin: | dou1, who me? |
| [04:47:00] | dou1: | you use alsa and PVR-150? |
| [04:47:00] | Esuirin: | yes |
| [04:47:00] | dou1: | yes, then please let me know what settings you use |
| [04:47:00] | dou1: | ALSA:default? |
| [04:47:00] | Esuirin: | well, i am remote right now, and since i uninstalled/reinstalled X last night remotely, i haven't gotten nxclient working yet |
| [04:47:00] | Fitzsimmons: | I know, I'm looking at the myth keys right now |
| [04:47:00] | Esuirin: | i think so, let me see |
| [04:47:00] | Fitzsimmons: | but there's nothing there that talks about editing the points =/ |
| [04:47:00] | Esuirin: | oh |
| [04:47:00] | Esuirin: | find a point, hit enter, in edit mode |
| [04:47:00] | Esuirin: | see what it says |
| [04:47:00] | Kleptophobiac: | dou1 – the PVR150 puts out an mpeg2 stream, both video and audio |
| [04:48:00] | kristok: | Fitzsimmons: hold on a sec, let me kick my wife off the tv for a minute... |
| [04:48:00] | Kleptophobiac: | so the sound setting for playback is irrelevant to that capture card |
| [04:48:00] | Esuirin: | Kleptophobiac, he hasn't gotten audio working w/it |
| [04:48:00] | dou1: | Kleptophobiac, yes, I know but what do I do with that info |
| [04:48:00] | Kleptophobiac: | but |
| [04:48:00] | Esuirin: | Kleptophobiac, yeah, that's true, i guess |
| [04:48:00] | Esuirin: | so basically he just wants alsa period |
| [04:48:00] | Kleptophobiac: | dou1 – it sounds like you haven't gotten myth to make sound work at all |
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| [04:48:00] | Kleptophobiac: | yeah |
| [04:48:00] | Kleptophobiac: | try using OSS first |
| [04:48:00] | Kleptophobiac: | "/dev/dsp" |
| [04:48:00] | Esuirin: | you should be able to record something in myth |
| [04:49:00] | Esuirin: | and play that file w/mplayer |
| [04:49:00] | dou1: | Kleptophobiac, that is true but I think it is just my connection to alsa |
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| [04:49:00] | kristok: | Fitzsimmons: do you know how to get into edit mode? |
| [04:49:00] | Fitzsimmons: | yeah |
| [04:49:00] | dou1: | Esuirin, how would I do that? |
| [04:49:00] | Esuirin: | it stores your recordings somewhere |
| [04:49:00] | Esuirin: | as .nuv files |
| [04:49:00] | kristok: | Fitzsimmons: so hit z and it will load the cutlist it found from the commercial flagging |
| [04:49:00] | Esuirin: | mplayer foo.nuv |
| [04:50:00] | kristok: | Fitzsimmons: got it? |
| [04:50:00] | dou1: | Kleptophobiac, so I could set output to "ALSA:oss" and use "/dev/dsp"? |
| [04:51:00] | Kleptophobiac: | no |
| [04:51:00] | Kleptophobiac: | output to "/dev/dsp" |
| [04:51:00] | Fitzsimmons: | kristok: I know |
| [04:51:00] | Fitzsimmons: | kristok: but it got one of them wrong |
| [04:51:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and mixer to /dev/mixer |
| [04:51:00] | Fitzsimmons: | which is why I want to edit it |
| [04:51:00] | Kleptophobiac: | or whatever your dev system calls them |
| [04:51:00] | dou1: | Ok, thanks I'll try that! |
| [04:51:00] | Kleptophobiac: | for example, /dev/snd/blahblah |
| [04:51:00] | kristok: | Fitzsimmons: so you can use pgup and pgdown to go navigate between the current cutpoints |
| [04:51:00] | Esuirin: | dou1, don't use alsa at all he is saying |
| [04:51:00] | kristok: | Fitzsimmons: and then select or space or whatever will give you an option to delete the current cutpoint, or make a new one |
| [04:52:00] | Fitzsimmons: | well it aint. |
| [04:52:00] | Kleptophobiac: | dou1- yes, exactly, but that's just a first step |
| [04:52:00] | Fitzsimmons: | it does nothing when I press that button |
| [04:52:00] | dou1: | Esuirin, oh, then should I remove alsa.. and who takes care of /dev/snd/? |
| [04:52:00] | Kleptophobiac: | dou1 – don't remove alsa |
| [04:53:00] | Kleptophobiac: | it has libs you'll need |
| [04:53:00] | Esuirin: | dou1, he is saying the config |
| [04:53:00] | Esuirin: | you need to get the sound working period |
| [04:53:00] | kristok: | Fitzsimmons: when you press what button |
| [04:53:00] | Fitzsimmons: | the use button |
| [04:53:00] | dou1: | Esuirin, I think I see. Just use the standard interface |
| [04:53:00] | kristok: | Fitzsimmons: i assume thats a button on your remote or soemthing? |
| [04:53:00] | dou1: | i'll be back... |
| [04:54:00] | Fitzsimmons: | could be =/ |
| [04:54:00] | kristok: | Fitzsimmons: lets start over |
| [04:54:00] | kristok: | Fitzsimmons: start playing the recording you want to edit |
| [04:57:00] | Fitzsimmons: | >< gah |
| [04:57:00] | Fitzsimmons: | it was a remote problem |
| [04:57:00] | Fitzsimmons: | thanks for your patience |
| [04:58:00] | kristok: | glad you got it working |
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| [04:59:00] | Kleptophobiac: | what remotes do you guys recommend? I have a niveus/ati/x10 right now, and it's a little chinsy |
| [05:01:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I prefer RF, but I can deal with IR |
| [05:01:00] | kristok: | i have a one for all urc-8811 |
| [05:01:00] | kristok: | it has a few buttons you can program with macros |
| [05:01:00] | kristok: | and a few you can "learn" extra keys with |
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| [05:02:00] | Kleptophobiac: | cool |
| [05:02:00] | Kleptophobiac: | looks nice |
| [05:02:00] | kristok: | it was pretty cheap too, 20–30 if i recall correctly |
| [05:02:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I'll have to look into that |
| [05:03:00] | Kleptophobiac: | where'd you get it? |
| [05:03:00] | kristok: | Fry's i think |
| [05:03:00] | Kleptophobiac: | damn you west coasters |
| [05:03:00] | kristok: | heh |
| [05:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kleptophobiac: I use a Niveus (my main remote) and one of the frontends uses a learning IR remote trained to use IR keyboard signals |
| [05:04:00] | Kleptophobiac: | GreyFoxx – does your niveus autorepeat when you hold down buttons? mine just... stopped doing that |
| [05:04:00] | Kleptophobiac: | really annoying for things like volume |
| [05:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kleptophobiac: It does but only at the rate I coded into the driver |
| [05:05:00] | Kleptophobiac: | curious |
| [05:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | the remote sends 4 signals per keypress |
| [05:05:00] | Kleptophobiac: | you hacked around with the lirc driver? |
| [05:05:00] | Kleptophobiac: | but wait |
| [05:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | No, I modified the ati_remote usb driver to support the niveus |
| [05:06:00] | Kleptophobiac: | mine doesn't autorepeat at all... even when controlling dumb appliances like the TV |
| [05:06:00] | kristok: | Can cx88 devices be made to work with myth, or ivtv the only way to go for hw encoding? |
| [05:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use the kernel driver and avoid that lirc mess |
| [05:06:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I used the kernel driver but found lirc worked better... but I think this is a more hardware related problem |
| [05:06:00] | Kleptophobiac: | since it used to autorepeat when I held the button down to control my TV, but it doesn't any more |
| [05:07:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I called the niveus guys and they were clueless (reinstall the driver on your windows XP computer, reboot, blah blah... even though the problem persists in non PC mode) |
| [05:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | I specifically modded the driver for my specific remote. So it works exactly as I want :) |
| [05:07:00] | Kleptophobiac: | GreyFoxx – does it autorepeat in NON PC mode? |
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| [05:07:00] | Kleptophobiac: | ie, when controlling a TV or stereo |
| [05:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | Sure |
| [05:08:00] | Kleptophobiac: | dammit, mine did that for a while and then stopped |
| [05:08:00] | Kleptophobiac: | now I have to press the button every time |
| [05:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't have to repeatedly hit the button (for volume for example) |
| [05:08:00] | Kleptophobiac: | exactly |
| [05:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | I hit and hold til I get where I want |
| [05:08:00] | Kleptophobiac: | mine used to behave that way |
| [05:08:00] | Kleptophobiac: | now I have to punch the button like I'm playing an old school platform shooter |
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| [05:09:00] | Kleptophobiac: | it's quite honestly ASSTACULAR |
| [05:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | Maybe the buttons on the surface are getting warn ? *shrug* |
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| [05:09:00] | Kleptophobiac: | meh, I doubt it |
| [05:09:00] | Kleptophobiac: | it's all buttons |
| [05:09:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and I know I don't use all the buttons the same amount |
| [05:10:00] | Kleptophobiac: | but oh well |
| [05:10:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I'll probably just get a different remote |
| [05:10:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and my TV has a slight annoyance too... it picks up the volume code for just about every device that has ever been made on planet earth |
| [05:10:00] | Kleptophobiac: | so if I want to up the volume on my cable box |
| [05:10:00] | Kleptophobiac: | the tv goes with it |
| [05:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm gonna change the mouse pad and buttons to be either regular myth controls or jump points. I haven't decided yet |
| [05:11:00] | Kleptophobiac: | it would be cool to implement ipod style rotation with the mouse thing and use it for ff/rw |
| [05:11:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and I use the mouse buttons for commskip |
| [05:11:00] | Kleptophobiac: | ie, cut points |
| [05:12:00] | Kleptophobiac: | hey GreyFoxx, any idea why mythcommflag isn't finding any commercials? |
| [05:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | I have them mapped as mouse but I don't use them at all |
| [05:13:00] | Kleptophobiac: | yeah... the mouse is rather useless |
| [05:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | no idea, I don't really use commercial flagging |
| [05:13:00] | Kleptophobiac: | shucks |
| [05:13:00] | Kleptophobiac: | it worked up until about three days ago |
| [05:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | I pretty much never do transcoding |
| [05:13:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I don't transcode either |
| [05:13:00] | Kleptophobiac: | but commflag is nice |
| [05:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | and if I skip commericals I do it manually |
| [05:13:00] | Kleptophobiac: | so I don't have to press buttons to skip commercials |
| [05:14:00] | Kleptophobiac: | because I'm a lazy SOB |
| [05:14:00] | Kleptophobiac: | hmm |
| [05:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [05:14:00] | Kleptophobiac: | mythcommflag |
| [05:14:00] | Kleptophobiac: | seems to sit on finding logo way longer than usual |
| [05:14:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and then dies on an ac-tex damaged error |
| [05:14:00] | Kleptophobiac: | mv not available |
| [05:15:00] | Kleptophobiac: | what does that mean? |
| [05:15:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I see that in the regular myth logs too |
| [05:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | it's just verbose logging by the libavcodec stuff. You can ignore it for the most part |
| [05:15:00] | dou1: | Kleptophobiac, I think I am narrowing down the problem: looks like myth isn't getting any sound. I tried mplayer on a .nuv file and no sound. Why would myth not get the sound from my intel on motherboard sound card? any ideas? |
| [05:15:00] | Kleptophobiac: | does that mean my pvr is putting out broken mpeg |
| [05:16:00] | Kleptophobiac: | dou1 – can you get sound from anything? |
| [05:16:00] | kormoc: | dou1, you have a pvr 150, right? |
| [05:16:00] | Kleptophobiac: | like a test.au file? |
| [05:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kleptophobiac: I see it all the time from DVB and pvr cards |
| [05:16:00] | dou1: | kormoc, yes pvr-150 |
| [05:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's just warnings from libavcodecs perspective |
| [05:16:00] | Kleptophobiac: | GreyFoxx thanks |
| [05:16:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I'll ignore it |
| [05:16:00] | kormoc: | dou1, then myth can't not get the audio, it's included with the video stream. |
| [05:16:00] | dou1: | Kleptophobiac, yes sound works for everything else , including DVD playing |
| [05:16:00] | Kleptophobiac: | i wonder if he has his card set up properly on the backend |
| [05:17:00] | kormoc: | dou1, there is no cpu/software stuff with the sound, it steams preencoded with the video |
| [05:17:00] | dou1: | Kleptophobiac, how would I check? |
| [05:17:00] | Kleptophobiac: | mythtv-setup, capture cards |
| [05:17:00] | dou1: | Kleptophobiac, i picked the MPEG-2 encoder (250, 350) option |
| [05:17:00] | Kleptophobiac: | confound it, the commflag seems totally fargletroned |
| [05:18:00] | kormoc: | dou1, that's correct |
| [05:18:00] | Kleptophobiac: | indeed |
| [05:18:00] | kormoc: | dou1, so mplayer random movie plays sound but mplayer /dev/video0 doesnt? |
| [05:19:00] | Kleptophobiac: | Finding Logo[mpeg2video @ 0xb7547f24]invalid cbp at 21 6 |
| [05:19:00] | Kleptophobiac: | [mpeg2video @ 0xb7547f24]Warning MVs not available 0%/0 |
| [05:19:00] | Kleptophobiac: | |
| [05:19:00] | Kleptophobiac: | Finished commercial break flagging at Thu Dec 29 00:18:26 2005 |
| [05:19:00] | dou1: | kormoc, i didn't try mplayer /dev/video0, and I'll have to find another mpeg file to test... |
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| [05:20:00] | dou1: | just tried "mplayer /dev/video0" and no sound ... what does that mean? |
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| [05:20:00] | Kleptophobiac: | what's the text output from mplayer say about sound channel? |
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| [05:21:00] | dou1: | Checking audio filter chain for 48000Hz/2ch/s16le -> 48000Hz/2ch/s16le... |
| [05:21:00] | dou1: | AF_pre: 48000Hz/2ch/s16le |
| [05:21:00] | dou1: | alsa-init: 1 soundcard found, using: default |
| [05:21:00] | dou1: | alsa: 48000 Hz/2 channels/4 bpf/65536 bytes buffer/Signed 16 bit Little Endian |
| [05:21:00] | dou1: | AO: [alsa] 48000Hz 2ch s16le (2 bps) |
| [05:21:00] | dou1: | Building audio filter chain for 48000Hz/2ch/s16le -> 48000Hz/2ch/s16le... |
| [05:21:00] | dou1: | Starting playback... |
| [05:21:00] | Kleptophobiac: | so sound is getting encoded |
| [05:21:00] | Kleptophobiac: | what does ivtvctl say about the volume on the card? |
| [05:21:00] | e\ectro_: | I am currently connected to the MythTV box through a computer monitor, when I click watch tv, should it show a picture? |
| [05:21:00] | Kleptophobiac: | sorry, I don't know the syntax off hand |
| [05:21:00] | Kleptophobiac: | e\ectro_ depends |
| [05:22:00] | Kleptophobiac: | are you in a twinview mode or straight normal display? |
| [05:22:00] | e\ectro_: | Kleptophobiac: I have a PVR 250 |
| [05:22:00] | e\ectro_: | Kleptophobiac: how can I check? |
| [05:22:00] | Kleptophobiac: | what vidcard do you have? |
| [05:22:00] | e\ectro_: | ati rage 128 |
| [05:22:00] | kormoc: | dou1, dmesg, the ivtv secion shows nothing odd? |
| [05:23:00] | e\ectro_: | so my guess is straight mode |
| [05:23:00] | Kleptophobiac: | hmm |
| [05:23:00] | Kleptophobiac: | indeed |
| [05:23:00] | Kleptophobiac: | which makes me wonder why you're not seeing anything |
| [05:23:00] | e\ectro_: | it says Composite 0 |
| [05:23:00] | e\ectro_: | but my input is Tuner0 |
| [05:23:00] | kormoc: | e\ectro_, what exactly are you doing? |
| [05:23:00] | e\ectro_: | trying to see if the TV is working properly |
| [05:24:00] | kormoc: | what video card do you ahve? |
| [05:24:00] | dou1: | Kleptophobiac and kormoc: thanks so much for your help... still not working but I understand much better! |
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| [05:25:00] | e\ectro_: | 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 Pro Ultra TF |
| [05:25:00] | Kleptophobiac: | can you view normal videos with mplayer? |
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| [05:26:00] | kormoc: | e\ectro_, I donno how to setup tvout with ati cards, sorry |
| [05:26:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I don't think he's doing tv out |
| [05:26:00] | Kleptophobiac: | just vga to a crt |
| [05:26:00] | e\ectro_: | yeah |
| [05:26:00] | e\ectro_: | no tv out |
| [05:27:00] | Kleptophobiac: | but I'm getting way too sleepy to keep at this, and I have to wake up tomorrow morning |
| [05:27:00] | Kleptophobiac: | so sayonara |
| [05:27:00] | kormoc: | e\ectro_, ooh, set the input away from composite then |
| [05:27:00] | e\ectro_: | where can I change that setting? |
| [05:27:00] | kormoc: | e\ectro_, mythtv-setup |
| [05:27:00] | Kleptophobiac: | mythtv-setup for myth and ivtvctl generally |
| [05:27:00] | e\ectro_: | k |
| [05:27:00] | e\ectro_: | one sec |
| [05:30:00] | |Slurpee|: | yo |
| [05:30:00] | |Slurpee|: | i think its time for me to start mythtv building round 2 |
| [05:30:00] | |Slurpee|: | anybody wana help out ? |
| [05:30:00] | Kleptophobiac: | you're going to code your own from scratch? |
| [05:31:00] | e\ectro_: | sweet |
| [05:31:00] | e\ectro_: | its working =] |
| [05:31:00] | Kleptophobiac: | yay, something worked tonight |
| [05:32:00] | |Slurpee|: | nope |
| [05:32:00] | |Slurpee|: | first i need to finish building the box |
| [05:32:00] | |Slurpee|: | ive never put thermal goo on a cpu |
| [05:32:00] | |Slurpee|: | thats all i need to do and the box is finished |
| [05:32:00] | |Slurpee|: | then i gota put on debian |
| [05:32:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I would hope that you'd put the heatsink on that thermal goo |
| [05:33:00] | |Slurpee|: | can u help me out ? |
| [05:33:00] | |Slurpee|: | i have it all right here |
| [05:33:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I'm going to bed |
| [05:33:00] | |Slurpee|: | im about to start putting the goo on |
| [05:33:00] | e\ectro_: | hmmm |
| [05:33:00] | e\ectro_: | how do you change channels? |
| [05:33:00] | Kleptophobiac: | but there are about ten bazillion guides to building your own pc out there |
| [05:33:00] | e\ectro_: | just type the # in and hit <CR>? |
| [05:33:00] | |Slurpee|: | yea ive read them |
| [05:33:00] | |Slurpee|: | but its nice to ask quick questions ;/ |
| [05:33:00] | Kleptophobiac: | e\ectro_ with mplayer? you don't, unless you specify tv:// when loading up the device and then use up/down |
| [05:33:00] | Kleptophobiac: | ah |
| [05:33:00] | |Slurpee|: | ive heard it gets dirty |
| [05:33:00] | Kleptophobiac: | well, I'll stick around until :40 |
| [05:34:00] | |Slurpee|: | ive got arctic silver 5 |
| [05:34:00] | Kleptophobiac: | there's nothing wrong with normal white silicone |
| [05:34:00] | Kleptophobiac: | despite what all the marketing says |
| [05:34:00] | Kleptophobiac: | but |
| [05:34:00] | |Slurpee|: | well i already bought it |
| [05:34:00] | Kleptophobiac: | what kind of CPU? |
| [05:34:00] | |Slurpee|: | sempron 2800 64bit |
| [05:34:00] | Kleptophobiac: | so it has the IHS |
| [05:34:00] | Kleptophobiac: | ok |
| [05:34:00] | Kleptophobiac: | put a block in the middle |
| [05:34:00] | |Slurpee|: | what should i put the cpu on |
| [05:34:00] | |Slurpee|: | is a good table out ? |
| [05:34:00] | Kleptophobiac: | oh |
| [05:35:00] | Kleptophobiac: | have the CPU in the motherboard socket |
| [05:35:00] | |Slurpee|: | yes |
| [05:35:00] | Kleptophobiac: | ESD is bad |
| [05:35:00] | |Slurpee|: | i can take it out and put it somewhere else |
| [05:35:00] | Kleptophobiac: | don't |
| [05:35:00] | Kleptophobiac: | leave it in the socket |
| [05:35:00] | |Slurpee|: | dont leave it in the socket ? |
| [05:35:00] | |Slurpee|: | take it out ? |
| [05:35:00] | Kleptophobiac: | LEAVE THE CPU IN THE SOCKET, DO NOT REMOVE IT |
| [05:36:00] | |Slurpee|: | lol |
| [05:36:00] | |Slurpee|: | k |
| [05:36:00] | |Slurpee|: | it is in the shell though |
| [05:36:00] | |Slurpee|: | does that matter ? |
| [05:36:00] | Kleptophobiac: | ...in the shell? |
| [05:36:00] | Kleptophobiac: | ie, you've not taken the CPU out of the box and installed it in the motherboard? |
| [05:36:00] | |Slurpee|: | box |
| [05:36:00] | |Slurpee|: | case |
| [05:36:00] | Kleptophobiac: | oh |
| [05:36:00] | |Slurpee|: | yea but the mobo is screwed in |
| [05:36:00] | Kleptophobiac: | ok |
| [05:36:00] | Kleptophobiac: | well install the proc in the motherboard socket |
| [05:36:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and then put on the thermal grease |
| [05:36:00] | |Slurpee|: | k |
| [05:37:00] | |Slurpee|: | i jsut wanted top make sure it didnt matter it was inside |
| [05:37:00] | Kleptophobiac: | stock AMD heatsink or something else? |
| [05:37:00] | |Slurpee|: | came with it yea |
| [05:37:00] | Kleptophobiac: | ok |
| [05:37:00] | |Slurpee|: | and i had to put it together |
| [05:37:00] | Kleptophobiac: | if you have the stock heatsink, don't bother with the arctic silver |
| [05:37:00] | Kleptophobiac: | just put the heatsink over the CPU and clamp it in place as per the quick installation guide |
| [05:38:00] | Kleptophobiac: | there's a TIM on the bottom of the heatsink to act as a filler |
| [05:38:00] | |Slurpee|: | wait |
| [05:38:00] | |Slurpee|: | realyl dont take off the heat sync ? |
| [05:38:00] | |Slurpee|: | i abillion other people told me to do it |
| [05:38:00] | Kleptophobiac: | you mean the tim on the heatsink? |
| [05:38:00] | Kleptophobiac: | a bunch of other people are thermal nazis |
| [05:38:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and think a half of a degree is something to write home about |
| [05:39:00] | |Slurpee|: | tim ? |
| [05:39:00] | Kleptophobiac: | thermal interface material |
| [05:39:00] | Kleptophobiac: | usually a little grey pad |
| [05:39:00] | Kleptophobiac: | sometimes with a peel off protective barrier |
| [05:39:00] | Kleptophobiac: | if there's a peel off, peel it |
| [05:39:00] | Kleptophobiac: | if not |
| [05:39:00] | |Slurpee|: | on the fan ? |
| [05:39:00] | Kleptophobiac: | don't touch the pad |
| [05:40:00] | Kleptophobiac: | on the heatsink |
| [05:40:00] | Kleptophobiac: | heatsink = chunk of metal |
| [05:40:00] | Kleptophobiac: | fan = whirlygig usually attached to a heatsink |
| [05:40:00] | |Slurpee|: | lol k |
| [05:40:00] | Kleptophobiac: | oh look at that |
| [05:40:00] | |Slurpee|: | check this |
| [05:40:00] | Kleptophobiac: | it's :40 |
| [05:40:00] | kormoc: | uhh |
| [05:40:00] | Kleptophobiac: | good night |
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| [05:41:00] | |Slurpee|: | damnit |
| [05:41:00] | kormoc: | |Slurpee|, what's up? |
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| [05:48:00] | Azariah: | Can anyone see what is wrong with this I am trying to transcode a file after I copy the mythcomlist into the cutlist: nice -n 19 mythtranscode --chanid 1004 --starttime 2005-12–27T21:00:00 --profile auto --honorcutlist --fifodir /tmp/ |
| [05:49:00] | sri: | okay, so I'm sure people have had this questions.. |
| [05:49:00] | sri: | er question |
| [05:49:00] | sri: | does anybody have a pvr-150 and have sound working? |
| [05:49:00] | sri: | I can't seem to get sound working and I don't see any duplicate drivers that might be throwing me of. |
| [05:50:00] | sri: | everything else works great! |
| [05:50:00] | kormoc: | what ivtv driver? |
| [05:50:00] | sri: | 0.4.1 |
| [05:50:00] | kormoc: | can you downgrade to 0.4.0? |
| [05:50:00] | Cardoe: | 0.4.1 doesn't work for me |
| [05:51:00] | sri: | really? |
| [05:51:00] | sri: | hmm. |
| [05:51:00] | sri: | I suppose I could. |
| [05:51:00] | kormoc: | 0.4.1 doesn't work for alot of people |
| [05:51:00] | sri: | but I can't get it to compile with my kernel version. |
| [05:51:00] | sri: | :( |
| [05:51:00] | kormoc: | you'll need to downgrade to 2.6.14 or lower |
| [05:51:00] | sri: | ah. yeah |
| [05:51:00] | sri: | I'm at 2.6.15 |
| [05:51:00] | sri: | :( |
| [05:51:00] | Azariah: | can anyone help me with mythtranscode? |
| [05:52:00] | |Slurpee|: | www.lechleider.com/cpu.jpg |
| [05:52:00] | sri: | I'm using dapper.. |
| [05:52:00] | kormoc: | sri, and file a bug on the ivtvdriver.org page about it too, if there's not already one filed. if there is one filed, please give them some info about your system to help them track it down |
| [05:52:00] | |Slurpee|: | thats what my cpu looks like for not putting on thermal goo |
| [05:52:00] | sri: | kormoc: will do! |
| [05:52:00] | ** sri does that now. ** | |
| [05:52:00] | kormoc: | |Slurpee|, looks like there's goo already on it |
| [05:52:00] | |Slurpee|: | never been any good |
| [05:52:00] | |Slurpee|: | goo |
| [05:52:00] | |Slurpee|: | i tried booting it the other day a few times |
| [05:52:00] | |Slurpee|: | and nothing was happening |
| [05:53:00] | |Slurpee|: | no video or nething |
| [05:53:00] | kormoc: | |Slurpee|, remove it from the socket and clean it up with some rubbing alcohol |
| [05:53:00] | kormoc: | |Slurpee|, be careful of the pins, and let it dry completely |
| [05:53:00] | |Slurpee|: | and then i realized i forgot the goo |
| [05:53:00] | kormoc: | and so what's the issue then? |
| [05:54:00] | Azariah: | Me or someone else? |
| [05:54:00] | |Slurpee|: | the issue is that i think i fried m cpu |
| [05:54:00] | |Slurpee|: | u think i did |
| [05:54:00] | |Slurpee|: | or cleaning it with alochol will really work ? |
| [05:55:00] | kormoc: | |Slurpee|, you shouldn't have been able to fry it. Cleaning it with alcohol will help if it's just a issue of the goo having a layer of dirt under it keeping it from working properly |
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| [05:56:00] | |Slurpee|: | i was orginally told that the 64 bit chips have heat sensors and wont normally fry the chip |
| [05:56:00] | kormoc: | that is true |
| [05:56:00] | |Slurpee|: | so there is still a chance this can work |
| [05:56:00] | kormoc: | it's possable that it was just a bad cpu as well |
| [05:56:00] | |Slurpee|: | why do u say that |
| [05:57:00] | kormoc: | if it's never worked... |
| [05:57:00] | |Slurpee|: | well this is a lot of dust |
| [05:57:00] | |Slurpee|: | like i dont even want to touch it |
| [05:57:00] | kormoc: | that's dust? |
| [05:57:00] | |Slurpee|: | did u look at the picture ? |
| [05:57:00] | |Slurpee|: | www.lechleider.com/cpu.jpg |
| [05:57:00] | |Slurpee|: | www.lechleider.com/cpu1.jpg |
| [05:57:00] | kormoc: | yeah, looks like a layer of goo... |
| [05:58:00] | |Slurpee|: | its not goo dude |
| [05:58:00] | |Slurpee|: | it was bare metal when i put it on |
| [05:58:00] | kormoc: | you know... |
| [05:58:00] | kormoc: | I bet you vaporized the anadized layer on the heatsink |
| [05:58:00] | e\ectro_: | can I use a frontend machine to stream video/audio to a tv where there isnt a coax connection for cable? |
| [05:58:00] | |Slurpee|: | vaporized the anadized layer on the heatsink ???????? |
| [05:59:00] | kormoc: | |Slurpee|, the aluminum on there has a finished layer of shiny metal, and likely it got so hot it went poof. Give the heatsink and the cpu a good cleaning with alcohol |
| [05:59:00] | kormoc: | |Slurpee|, that would be the next step |
| [05:59:00] | |Slurpee|: | what material should i use to clean it with |
| [06:00:00] | |Slurpee|: | qtip ? |
| [06:00:00] | kormoc: | rubbing alcohol |
| [06:00:00] | kormoc: | qtip would be grand |
| [06:00:00] | |Slurpee|: | take the chip out |
| [06:00:00] | kormoc: | I've used paper towels as well |
| [06:00:00] | kormoc: | yeah, remove the chip, and be careful |
| [06:00:00] | |Slurpee|: | how long to let it dry ? |
| [06:00:00] | kormoc: | with alcohol, it doesn't take long, just blow on it till it's totally dry |
| [06:01:00] | |Slurpee|: | few minutes ? wait till morning ? |
| [06:01:00] | kormoc: | the purer the alcohol the better |
| [06:01:00] | kormoc: | few min usually |
| [06:01:00] | kormoc: | go light on the alcohol |
| [06:01:00] | |Slurpee|: | u got a few minutes to help ? |
| [06:02:00] | kormoc: | sure |
| [06:02:00] | |Slurpee|: | sweet |
| [06:02:00] | |Slurpee|: | well i dont think i have pure alocohol |
| [06:02:00] | |Slurpee|: | i have frozen bacardi select |
| [06:02:00] | kormoc: | don't use drinking alcohol |
| [06:02:00] | kormoc: | it's full of impuritys and what not |
| [06:02:00] | kormoc: | you really need rubbing alcohol |
| [06:03:00] | |Slurpee|: | jewel is less than a block away ;/ |
| [06:03:00] | |Slurpee|: | 24 hours in the city :) |
| [06:04:00] | kormoc: | do your best to get pure rubbing alcohol |
| [06:05:00] | |Slurpee|: | i tried waking up my gf |
| [06:05:00] | |Slurpee|: | but she is way passed out for a few hours |
| [06:05:00] | kormoc: | bad move? :P |
| [06:05:00] | |Slurpee|: | i dunno were the hell it would be |
| [06:05:00] | |Slurpee|: | but itsonly a dollar |
| [06:05:00] | |Slurpee|: | and jewel is way close |
| [06:06:00] | |Slurpee|: | u gona be around when i come back ? |
| [06:06:00] | kormoc: | likely |
| [06:06:00] | |Slurpee|: | want some food ? |
| [06:06:00] | |Slurpee|: | ill grab some gyros haha |
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| [06:06:00] | kormoc: | hhee, sure! |
| [06:07:00] | kormoc: | toss it to me via Gyro Over Ip (GOIP!) |
| [06:07:00] | |Slurpee|: | goip |
| [06:07:00] | |Slurpee|: | ha |
| [06:07:00] | tanq: | is there some trick to running /sbin/halt from irexec in lircrc |
| [06:07:00] | |Slurpee|: | be back in a few |
| [06:07:00] | Azariah: | |
| [06:07:00] | Azariah: | |
| [06:07:00] | Azariah: | I have a system that has a WinTv card, and lan connections. IT does not connect to a tv/monitor. I connect through VNC and SSH. I have a script (I did not write I just altered and is listed below)that takes all recordings converts them to divx then archives them in myth. I would like to remove commercials so I have the system to not transcode automatically, Mythcommflag as soon as the system records. In the script ripmytharchiv |
| [06:08:00] | Azariah: | e.php I added mythcommflag that copys the commflag into the cutlist. I then (as I understant) need to retranscode the file....I do this at night so time is not a issue I just need it all to be automated. I currenlty run a script that does the following(it pulls info from the db but here is an example): |
| [06:08:00] | Azariah: | nice -n 19 mythtranscode --chanid 1004 --starttime 2005-12–27T21:00:00 --profile auto --honorcutlist --fifodir /tmp/ nice -n 19 mythtranscode --chanid 1004 --starttime 2005-12–27T21:00:00 --profile auto --honorcutlist --fifodir /tmp/ |
| [06:08:00] | Azariah: | They system just sits there there are two files in the /tmp directory vidout and audb out. They are 0 bites. Also when I ps the mythtranscode status is SN1. I can end the program but after 4 hours the files were 0 in size and nothing changed |
| [06:08:00] | Azariah: | Any help would be appreciated or an easier way to automatically do this...I use cron now to execute...I don't want to have to connect in to convert the videos by hand(nuvexport). Thanks |
| [06:08:00] | kormoc: | Azariah, first of all, that's a huge flood |
| [06:08:00] | kormoc: | Azariah, second, have you tried nuvexport? |
| [06:08:00] | kormoc: | ooh |
| [06:08:00] | kormoc: | you mentioned it |
| [06:08:00] | tanq: | arg... |
| [06:08:00] | kormoc: | uhh, nuvexport can be run via command line |
| [06:08:00] | tanq: | so i was saying.. |
| [06:09:00] | Azariah: | Sorry I have tried to get help for two days and no one listens.... |
| [06:09:00] | tanq: | sbin/halt works from flux but when i push the power button in myth it doesn't work |
| [06:09:00] | tanq: | and the irexec process is owned by me |
| [06:10:00] | kormoc: | Azariah, we listen, but really, you're asking questions we can't really answer, as we don't know |
| [06:10:00] | kormoc: | Azariah, maybe a mailing list would be a better place to ask? |
| [06:13:00] | Azariah: | Would I need to join or is there an email address that I send to? |
| [06:14:00] | kormoc: | Azariah, you'd need to join, the myth-users list would be a good place to start |
| [06:14:00] | Azariah: | Thanks. |
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| [06:15:00] | tanq: | easy enough.. |
| [06:15:00] | tanq: | i just had to dp kill -9 `ps aux|grep mythfrontend`; halt |
| [06:15:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | those entries in Azariah's /tmp directory are pipes, not files, so they won't grow. |
| [06:16:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | err, fifos, not pipes. :) |
| [06:16:00] | tanq: | is there a guide on how to create myth tv plugins? |
| [06:16:00] | Cardoe: | geez get it right |
| [06:16:00] | ** Cardoe pokes Captain_Murdoch ** | |
| [06:16:00] | Cardoe: | jk |
| [06:17:00] | ** Cardoe ponders what distros are using Modular already ** | |
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| [06:17:00] | Cardoe: | Captain_Murdoch: know when Chutt is going to be back? |
| [06:17:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | tanq: not that I know of, just look at one of the simpler plugins. |
| [06:18:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | Cardoe: not sure, haven't had any contact with him since before I went on my vacation about 2 weeks ago. |
| [06:18:00] | Cardoe: | oh |
| [06:18:00] | Cardoe: | I wanted to take over 0-18-fixes |
| [06:18:00] | Cardoe: | since jarod is busy |
| [06:19:00] | e\ectro_: | can I use a frontend machine to stream video/audio to a tv where there isnt a coax connection for cable? |
| [06:22:00] | Cardoe: | yes |
| [06:22:00] | Cardoe: | put a frontend there. |
| [06:23:00] | e\ectro_: | sweet |
| [06:27:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, so you have to unmerge x.org before switching to modular? |
| [06:29:00] | Cardoe: | yes |
| [06:30:00] | Cardoe: | to unmask modular |
| [06:30:00] | Cardoe: | get the script in my dev space |
| [06:30:00] | Cardoe: | to make you an unmask list |
| [06:31:00] | Cardoe: | getting frustrated with how SVN isn't really what you want to go with for a release |
| [06:31:00] | Cardoe: | but 0.18.1 isn't really correct either. |
| [06:31:00] | e\ectro_: | is it possible to just purchase a digital cable box and connect it to comcast? |
| [06:31:00] | e\ectro_: | has anyone looked into this? |
| [06:32:00] | Cardoe: | and 0-18-fixes is jacked up |
| [06:33:00] | |Slurpee|: | yo |
| [06:33:00] | kormoc: | damn. Cardoe would it hurt if I built modular as bin packages and then unmerged and emerged the binpackages? |
| [06:35:00] | |Slurpee|: | jewel was packed |
| [06:35:00] | |Slurpee|: | only 1 register guy |
| [06:35:00] | |Slurpee|: | and 3 confused weridos as the self check out |
| [06:35:00] | |Slurpee|: | i ended up buying groceries too hahah |
| [06:37:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: nah why not? |
| [06:37:00] | e\ectro_: | when does mythtv transcode the files into MPEG-2? |
| [06:37:00] | kormoc: | kk, just didn't want it to bork itself somehow |
| [06:37:00] | e\ectro_: | do you have to set that flag? |
| [06:38:00] | e\ectro_: | or does it auto do this? |
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| [06:40:00] | |Slurpee|: | so |
| [06:40:00] | |Slurpee|: | were should i start with this alochol ? |
| [06:41:00] | |Slurpee|: | dab a qtip in it |
| [06:41:00] | |Slurpee|: | and wipe it off ? |
| [06:41:00] | kormoc: | |Slurpee|, yup |
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| [06:41:00] | |Slurpee|: | what could i put the chip on |
| [06:41:00] | |Slurpee|: | can i place it on a wood table |
| [06:41:00] | |Slurpee|: | hold it in my hand ? |
| [06:41:00] | kormoc: | |Slurpee|, carboard would work, wood would work |
| [06:41:00] | kormoc: | |Slurpee|, anything non conductive and not static prone |
| [06:42:00] | |Slurpee|: | this wood actualyl mite be plastic |
| [06:42:00] | |Slurpee|: | haha |
| [06:42:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, crap, it's a blocker even with making a bin package, ahh well |
| [06:43:00] | dou1: | kormoc, just wanted to let you know that I have my PVR-150 and sound working. Turned out is was the firmware that was keeping mute=1 |
| [06:43:00] | dou1: | Thanks again! |
| [06:43:00] | kormoc: | dou1, wow! that's odd, glad it's working tho :) |
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| [06:45:00] | Cardoe: | Jewel.. |
| [06:45:00] | Cardoe: | where are those? |
| [06:45:00] | Cardoe: | isn't that an Albertson's company? |
| [06:45:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, is modular X gonna be more thinned out in the future? right now it wants to do ~120 ebuilds, is that correct? |
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| [06:49:00] | |Slurpee|: | im settin up my supplies |
| [06:49:00] | |Slurpee|: | heres goes nothin ... |
| [06:49:00] | kormoc: | did it clean off well? |
| [06:49:00] | |Slurpee|: | havent tried |
| [06:49:00] | |Slurpee|: | im going to in 10 seconds |
| [06:50:00] | Cardoe: | I wish they gave me commit access to MythTV |
| [06:50:00] | Cardoe: | I want to clean up code in my free time. |
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| [06:51:00] | kormoc: | could post diffs to trac for them to review |
| [06:52:00] | |Slurpee|: | its gooey |
| [06:52:00] | |Slurpee|: | its thick on the chip |
| [06:52:00] | kormoc: | icky |
| [06:54:00] | |Slurpee|: | this could take a few minz? |
| [06:54:00] | kormoc: | it could indeed |
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| [06:58:00] | |Slurpee|: | wow |
| [06:58:00] | |Slurpee|: | i cant believe this is workin |
| [07:04:00] | |Slurpee|: | its almost clean |
| [07:04:00] | |Slurpee|: | should it shinmey ? |
| [07:04:00] | |Slurpee|: | is ok if i lil is left ? |
| [07:04:00] | |Slurpee|: | if i leave some |
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| [07:06:00] | kormoc: | |Slurpee|, you really should remove it all |
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| [07:06:00] | |Slurpee|: | its gone |
| [07:06:00] | |Slurpee|: | but im not sure if its PERFECT |
| [07:06:00] | kormoc: | how's it look? |
| [07:07:00] | |Slurpee|: | IM GOING 1 MORE COAT OF ALCOHOL |
| [07:07:00] | |Slurpee|: | VICORTY LAP IF U WILL |
| [07:07:00] | |Slurpee|: | soory 4 caps |
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| [07:08:00] | dtm: | |Slurpee|: lolz |
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| [07:13:00] | Cardoe: | anyone know jarod's IRC nick? |
| [07:13:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: sounds about right |
| [07:13:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: what package are you emerging? |
| [07:13:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: you'd be surprised cause it is thined out. |
| [07:14:00] | Cardoe: | it's over 400 packages for the monolithic |
| [07:14:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, the wiki has to emerge xorg-x11 xec xdpyinfo svinfo xser xprop imake makedepend xf86-input-keyboard xf86-input-mouse |
| [07:14:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, fair nuff, it just seemed like a lot |
| [07:14:00] | |Slurpee|: | k |
| [07:14:00] | Cardoe: | forget all that |
| [07:14:00] | |Slurpee|: | i think itsdry |
| [07:15:00] | |Slurpee|: | im puttin it back |
| [07:15:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: are you doing that? |
| [07:15:00] | kormoc: | |Slurpee|, the top of the cpu is clean and shiny and not discolored or cracked? |
| [07:15:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: http://dev.gentoo.org/~spyderous/xorg-x11/mig . . . _x_howto.txt |
| [07:15:00] | kormoc: | |Slurpee|, and the bottom of the heatsync is still perfectly flat? |
| [07:15:00] | |Slurpee|: | clean shiny no cracks |
| [07:15:00] | Cardoe: | official guide |
| [07:16:00] | |Slurpee|: | i haven messed with heat sync yet |
| [07:16:00] | |Slurpee|: | just cleaned the cpu chip good and just put it back into socket |
| [07:16:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, didn't actually emerge yet, still looking at things, I'll look at that guide, thanks |
| [07:16:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: the prep steps are the most important |
| [07:17:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: don't listen to the Gentoo WIKI |
| [07:17:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, kk |
| [07:17:00] | Cardoe: | the problem with the wiki is the same issue that Wikipedia faces |
| [07:17:00] | Cardoe: | any moron who knows how to click can change it. |
| [07:17:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [07:17:00] | Cardoe: | kind of like the guy that insisted to install MythTV you had to emerge kdelibs first |
| [07:17:00] | |Slurpee|: | heat sync is way easier cleaning |
| [07:17:00] | kormoc: | heh, fair nuff |
| [07:18:00] | |Slurpee|: | i got pictures of this entire process btw ... |
| [07:18:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: spyderous, Josh_B and I have worked over that guide pretty well |
| [07:19:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, I'll likely actually emerge it tomorrow while I'm at work, so it can build in peace |
| [07:19:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: basically those instructions might be kinda right before spyderous and I fixed the depends in the tree. |
| [07:19:00] | Cardoe: | from the wiki |
| [07:20:00] | Cardoe: | plus now you can harass me if anything doesn't go as planned |
| [07:20:00] | Cardoe: | and it'll be my fault |
| [07:20:00] | kormoc: | heh, kk :) |
| [07:20:00] | Cardoe: | and I'll fix your pieces |
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| [07:23:00] | |Slurpee|: | heat snyc is actully harder! |
| [07:23:00] | |Slurpee|: | it seems to be burnred deeper to the heat sync |
| [07:31:00] | |Slurpee|: | im runnin outa qtips here |
| [07:31:00] | kormoc: | use tissues for the heatsink |
| [07:32:00] | |Slurpee|: | now u tell me ! ;/ |
| [07:33:00] | |Slurpee|: | u totaly have done this before |
| [07:33:00] | |Slurpee|: | because everything u suggest works |
| [07:33:00] | |Slurpee|: | haha |
| [07:34:00] | kormoc: | well, my brother has done it lots of times and I've helped out :P |
| [07:35:00] | |Slurpee|: | hmm |
| [07:35:00] | |Slurpee|: | this is way better now |
| [07:35:00] | |Slurpee|: | i took offf "made in china" |
| [07:36:00] | |Slurpee|: | k |
| [07:36:00] | |Slurpee|: | now i guess its thermal compound time |
| [07:36:00] | kormoc: | is the heatsink bottom screwed up in any way? |
| [07:37:00] | |Slurpee|: | heatsync button ? |
| [07:37:00] | kormoc: | the heat sink bottom |
| [07:37:00] | |Slurpee|: | lol |
| [07:37:00] | kormoc: | the peice that goes to the cpu |
| [07:37:00] | |Slurpee|: | soory |
| [07:37:00] | |Slurpee|: | nope |
| [07:37:00] | kormoc: | good |
| [07:37:00] | |Slurpee|: | its apears fine |
| [07:38:00] | |Slurpee|: | just like regular metal |
| [07:38:00] | kormoc: | so yeah, the proper way to do it is, cpu in place, goo on the center, spread it around thin and even, just sort of like a coat of paint, thick enough to not see though, but no thicker, and then the heatsink goes directly on (don't move it around much after it hits the goo) and clamped down, and that's it |
| [07:39:00] | |Slurpee|: | http://www.arcticsilver.com/images/p4_as_dab1.jpg |
| [07:39:00] | |Slurpee|: | just like that ? |
| [07:39:00] | |Slurpee|: | instruciton said to put a dab like that |
| [07:39:00] | kormoc: | yeah, you'll likely need a little bit more |
| [07:40:00] | |Slurpee|: | and put the heatsync on, saying the weight of the heat sync will even out the goo |
| [07:40:00] | |Slurpee|: | or should i spread it out my self ? |
| [07:40:00] | kormoc: | http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_silver_instructions.htm |
| [07:41:00] | kormoc: | For all Arctic Silver versions:Spread the Arctic Silver thermal compound over the CPU core as shown in the photo to the right. |
| [07:42:00] | kormoc: | ooh, you're right for the a64 |
| [07:42:00] | kormoc: | listen to that page :) |
| [07:42:00] | |Slurpee|: | damnit |
| [07:43:00] | |Slurpee|: | so i just put a drop on |
| [07:43:00] | |Slurpee|: | and then put the heat sync on |
| [07:43:00] | |Slurpee|: | dont spread ? |
| [07:44:00] | kormoc: | yeah, for a64 cpus, that's what they recommend |
| [07:44:00] | |Slurpee|: | k |
| [07:44:00] | |Slurpee|: | alright lets see here .... |
| [07:47:00] | |Slurpee|: | i think i did it ... |
| [07:47:00] | |Slurpee|: | just a small goope in the center ... |
| [07:47:00] | |Slurpee|: | now i just put on the heat sync ? |
| [07:47:00] | kormoc: | yup |
| [07:47:00] | kormoc: | stright down and don't move it as much as you can |
| [07:48:00] | |Slurpee|: | k its in |
| [07:48:00] | |Slurpee|: | should i let it spread or just go for it ? |
| [07:48:00] | kormoc: | go for it |
| [07:49:00] | kormoc: | the spread happens cause of the clamp on the heatsink, so time won't really affect that much |
| [07:49:00] | |Slurpee|: | hmmmm |
| [07:49:00] | |Slurpee|: | i hope this works |
| [07:49:00] | kormoc: | if it doesn't, return it :P |
| [07:49:00] | |Slurpee|: | bought it online |
| [07:49:00] | kormoc: | RMA it |
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| [07:50:00] | |Slurpee|: | k time to install 500w psu |
| [07:54:00] | kormoc: | |Slurpee|, gonna be done soonish? |
| [07:54:00] | |Slurpee|: | yup |
| [07:54:00] | |Slurpee|: | 5 minz |
| [07:54:00] | kormoc: | kk |
| [07:54:00] | |Slurpee|: | u wanitng for the result ? |
| [07:54:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [07:55:00] | |Slurpee|: | eh |
| [07:55:00] | BarnacleBoy: | is it still cheaper to build your own pvr rather than buying something such as compaqs media center |
| [07:55:00] | |Slurpee|: | i dont even need hard drive in |
| [07:55:00] | kormoc: | BarnacleBoy, depends on your skills and hardware you pick and all that |
| [07:56:00] | BarnacleBoy: | yeah |
| [07:56:00] | BarnacleBoy: | then the answer is yes |
| [07:56:00] | |Slurpee|: | here i go |
| [07:58:00] | |Slurpee|: | fux0r !!! |
| [07:58:00] | |Slurpee|: | nothing happend |
| [07:58:00] | |Slurpee|: | same error |
| [07:58:00] | |Slurpee|: | all fans turn on |
| [07:58:00] | |Slurpee|: | but nothing else |
| [07:59:00] | kormoc: | |Slurpee|, honestly likely the cpu is dead then, sorry :/ |
| [07:59:00] | |Slurpee|: | fux0r |
| [07:59:00] | |Slurpee|: | i cant believe there was no instructions to thermal goo the cpu with the cpu |
| [08:00:00] | kormoc: | it's just assumed people knows |
| [08:01:00] | |Slurpee|: | so now i gota buy a new chip tomarrow |
| [08:01:00] | |Slurpee|: | can i use same heat sync ? |
| [08:02:00] | kormoc: | yeah |
| [08:02:00] | |Slurpee|: | this sux |
| [08:02:00] | kormoc: | just hope the mobo is okay |
| [08:02:00] | |Slurpee|: | y think it could have effected the mobo too ??? |
| [08:02:00] | kormoc: | it could have, aye |
| [08:03:00] | |Slurpee|: | i thought the 64 bit chips had heat sensors or something |
| [08:03:00] | kormoc: | they do, but without goo, it's a very quick death |
| [08:03:00] | kormoc: | Intel really put a ton of work into their system, amd has always lagged behind a little bit |
| [08:04:00] | |Slurpee|: | how can i test mobo ? |
| [08:04:00] | kormoc: | new cpu |
| [08:05:00] | BarnacleBoy: | dang man that sucks |
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| [08:05:00] | |Slurpee|: | yea myhtv was a present for my gf |
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| [08:07:00] | |Slurpee|: | AMD Sempron 64 2800+ 800MHz FSB Socket 754 Processor – Retail |
| [08:07:00] | |Slurpee|: | from new egg |
| [08:12:00] | kormoc: | you can RMA with newegg likely |
| [08:12:00] | kormoc: | just say it never worked, which is true |
| [08:12:00] | |Slurpee|: | but i finally have time this weekend to work on it |
| [08:13:00] | |Slurpee|: | i start school monday and wanted to get it finished by then |
| [08:13:00] | |Slurpee|: | im gona call em in the morning |
| [08:13:00] | |Slurpee|: | thanx for all your help |
| [08:13:00] | |Slurpee|: | ill be around :) |
| [08:13:00] | kormoc: | kk, g'luck! |
| [08:13:00] | kormoc: | and g'night :) |
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| [08:46:00] | Gumby: | does anyone here know which files I'd need to edit for the guide OSD in livetv? |
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| [09:00:00] | Juski: | Gumby: that'd be the ui.xml file. the xml file will be found in the directory of the theme you're using |
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| [09:29:00] | berbs: | anybody using a tivo remote to pilot mythtv? |
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| [11:01:00] | Juski: | . |
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| [11:20:00] | laga: | ! |
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| [11:24:00] | Juski: | morning laga |
| [11:25:00] | Juski: | just checking I'm still connected ;) |
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| [11:26:00] | Juski: | ugh. there I was thinking livetv with dvb was fixed in svn.. still very stuttery here |
| [11:27:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [11:28:00] | Juski: | think it might be because I can't see xvmc anywhere in the playback settings setup pages.. thought I'd compiled with xvmc |
| [11:28:00] | laga: | maybe you didn't ;) |
| [11:29:00] | Juski: | ahh but I did.. and I found it's now living in the mpeg decoder preference item |
| [11:29:00] | Juski: | still crappy, but I noticed yesterday the signal level isn't so hot with 3 tuners looped in.. will try the aerial just on this tuner |
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| [11:30:00] | Juski: | nah no better |
| [11:30:00] | Juski: | bummer |
| [11:34:00] | Juski: | ooo hang on – seems okay now.. must be resource related or something |
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| [11:37:00] | Juski: | *** glibc detected *** free() : invalid pointer: 0x083dd8c8 *** from mythbackend. ouch |
| [11:37:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [11:37:00] | Juski: | wait a sec.. what the heck am I doing clarting on with this? I installed svn to work on something else |
| [11:38:00] | laga: | hehe. i'm always getting distracted, too. it's fun but you never get stuff done |
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| [11:49:00] | Juski: | well channel changing seems no faster for me. maybe my DVB card takes longer to lock than others |
| [11:49:00] | Juski: | but what do I care? I don't even use livetv |
| [11:49:00] | Juski: | ;) |
| [11:52:00] | dasOp: | I wish I could even change channels |
| [11:53:00] | dasOp: | You should consider yourself lucky! :P |
| [11:53:00] | Juski: | lol |
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| [11:54:00] | Juski: | I do, but that has nothing to do with mythtv ;) |
| [11:55:00] | Juski: | expect some random characters here.. gonna clean this keyboard |
| [11:55:00] | dasOp: | I dunno why mythtv borks when xawtv works just fine |
| [11:56:00] | Juski: | normally a user error when mythtv borks.. in my experience |
| [11:56:00] | dasOp: | yeah, it probably is |
| [11:56:00] | dasOp: | time to drop the db again and retry |
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| [11:57:00] | dasOp: | frontend freezes, then disconnects, and backend crashes |
| [11:58:00] | ** Juski wonders if there's any truth in the rumour that Windows can give you cooties ** | |
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| [11:58:00] | dasOp: | perhaps you can download em from msn? :P |
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| [11:59:00] | Juski: | and who the hell thought it'd be good to put 'sleep' or 'power' buttons on keyboards? |
| [11:59:00] | Juski: | qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq |
| [11:59:00] | laga: | Juski: i ripped them on out mine after i accidentally killed my server a few times ;) |
| [11:59:00] | Juski: | oops |
| [12:00:00] | Juski: | might get my scalpel out & cut a track or 2 |
| [12:00:00] | laga: | hehe |
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| [12:06:00] | Juski: | not long now til we get to blast out our neighbours with 400Watts of mythtv audio :D |
| [12:07:00] | Juski: | I just hope it drowns oout their karaoke this year |
| [12:08:00] | jcsmith: | g'morning all, I asked this question last night, but i'm still struggeling a bit, I am in the process of building a myth box and I have configured TV out for an NVIDIA FX5200 card and everything displays on the TV properly exept there are some horrible scrolling horizontal lines all of the time |
| [12:08:00] | jcsmith: | any ideas? |
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| [12:09:00] | Juski: | jcsmith: I saw that & I thought it's probably down to one of the following: |
| [12:09:00] | Juski: | earthing issue |
| [12:09:00] | Juski: | PSU |
| [12:09:00] | Juski: | or crappy cabling |
| [12:10:00] | jcsmith: | Juski: thanks, the card i bought was a $35 knock off nvidia card and the cable it came with is a tad flimsy, maybe i'll try to go a bit nicer on the card |
| [12:10:00] | jcsmith: | just what i need to do sync more money into hardware |
| [12:11:00] | jcsmith: | s/sync/sink |
| [12:11:00] | Juski: | jcsmith: prolly not the card to blame |
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| [12:12:00] | jcsmith: | i suppose I'll try to round up a new PSU, come to think of it the one I have is a couple of years old |
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| [12:12:00] | Juski: | if the lines going up & down the screen are wide or slow – then it's mains hum |
| [12:13:00] | Juski: | and if its that, there's every chance it's an earth problem (grounding) |
| [12:14:00] | Juski: | can happen if the TV is earthed thru an aerial connection & the PC is earthed on the mains strip |
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| [12:15:00] | jcsmith: | yea, the lines are going from bottom to top and are wide and slow, both the TV and the PC should be grounded on main |
| [12:15:00] | Juski: | the problem could also be caused by speed controlled fans |
| [12:15:00] | Juski: | though not as likely |
| [12:16:00] | jcsmith: | i considered the fans last night and unhooked all but the cpu fan for testing and the problem still presisted |
| [12:16:00] | Juski: | try a different video cable |
| [12:17:00] | Juski: | don't go crazy spending $$$$ on it though |
| [12:17:00] | jcsmith: | the card has some sort of propritery connector on its end don't knwo where i'll find a different video cable |
| [12:17:00] | Juski: | ugh one of them 7 pin mini-din jobbies? |
| [12:17:00] | jcsmith: | yes |
| [12:18:00] | jcsmith: | The card was a gift from the family for Christmas and unfortunatley after asking me what i wanted they just searched for another card with an FX5200 chip and bought it |
| [12:18:00] | laga: | that's why i always order my stuff and let them pay the bill ;) |
| [12:21:00] | Juski: | heh |
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| [12:21:00] | jcsmith: | i figured sending them to the link of specifically the card i wanted shouldn't present a problem |
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| [12:22:00] | Juski: | jcsmith: do you have anything else with svideo out you can try on the TV? |
| [12:22:00] | jcsmith: | now if UPS will just deliver my pvr-150 by the time I get in from work It'll be a good evening |
| [12:22:00] | jcsmith: | juski: no |
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| [12:24:00] | jcsmith: | I should eaisly be able to borrow a PSU from a workmate today and try it this evening, If that doesn't work I'll investigate the other things you mentioned |
| [12:25:00] | jcsmith: | Thanks for all of the help but its time to head off to work |
| [12:25:00] | jcsmith: | i'm sure i'll be back later with more questions |
| [12:25:00] | Juski: | okees |
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| [12:30:00] | t00m: | any recommendations for a commandline mp3 player? I want to be able to control volume like in mplayer but i want nicer navigation than in mplayer |
| [12:30:00] | laga: | t00m: mp3blaster? |
| [12:30:00] | t00m: | installing |
| [12:31:00] | bjohnson: | Beirdo: around? how about a meet on Sat., Dec 31? |
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| [12:31:00] | laga: | it's possible that it will complain about running out of threads sometime during playback. you can pass it a higher number of threads on the command line |
| [12:34:00] | t00m: | very nice laga |
| [12:34:00] | laga: | :) |
| [12:37:00] | t00m: | now i need music |
| [12:37:00] | t00m: | just had ub40 red red wine |
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| [13:16:00] | Kelerion: | guys – quick question – am planning on splitting up my backend and frontend today (woohoo! only taken 2 years to have the time!). The ir reciever is plugged into the pvr250.. if thats moved into a backend hwo'd I go about using the remote? |
| [13:17:00] | Kelerion: | I have a spare 878 based tv card with a remote – is it best to just put that in the FE and use that reciever instead? |
| [13:17:00] | Kelerion: | if thats the case I just hope the kameleon remote will talk to the 878 based reciever |
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| [13:27:00] | Juski: | Kelerion: you could try that, or else buy or build a serial or USB IR receiver |
| [13:28:00] | Juski: | I made a homebrewed IR reciever for less than a fiver ;-) |
| [13:28:00] | Juski: | mmmm homebrew :-P |
| [13:28:00] | dasOp: | or if you're not that technically inclined, buying an irc reciever wont cost much more than that fiver |
| [13:29:00] | ** Juski has dusted off his dbox2 ** | |
| [13:29:00] | Kelerion: | it's cold outside! I ain't going to maplins and I wanna get cracking on this today.. lol.. I think I'll try the other tv card.. lol |
| [13:30:00] | Kelerion: | can someone *please* explain to me what a "dbox2" is?? I keep seeing it mentioned but can't find any reference |
| [13:31:00] | laga: | basically a cable box that can be hacked to run linux. check www.tuxbox.org |
| [13:32:00] | Juski: | oh fuck. someone help me.. I can't change channels yet & neighbours has come on! |
| [13:32:00] | Kelerion: | change it on the ntl box |
| [13:32:00] | laga: | Juski: calm down. ;) are your channels set up properly? did you connect your input source to the tv card? |
| [13:33:00] | Juski: | I can't seem to select the other video source.. hmmm |
| [13:33:00] | ** Juski mutes the sound ** | |
| [13:33:00] | Kelerion: | okies – yer screwed then .. lol |
| [13:33:00] | Juski: | I should never have given that sonic screwdriver away |
| [13:34:00] | Kelerion: | Juski: I saw yer pic dude.. you looked a tad pissed.. lol |
| [13:34:00] | Juski: | a tad? that was after like erm... a jug of a vodka cocktail or so |
| [13:34:00] | ** Kelerion chuckles ** | |
| [13:35:00] | ** Juski is just glad the other photos of that event never saw the light of day ** | |
| [13:35:00] | ** laga snickers ** | |
| [13:36:00] | Juski: | typical stagnight shennanigans.. only the person doing the de-bagging was erm.. me, on the stage of a bar |
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| [13:40:00] | Juski: | hmmm |
| [13:40:00] | Juski: | Error: Channel 231 is not in your database... err yes it is! |
| [13:48:00] | Juski: | heh. another backend segfault. this is great stuff |
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| [14:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | man the eit scanner/help code is pretty gross |
| [14:05:00] | Juski: | noticed some spelling/grammar issues too |
| [14:05:00] | Juski: | input's .. :-/ |
| [14:05:00] | Juski: | _inputs_ |
| [14:06:00] | Juski: | I know, I know.. you look forward to my code |
| [14:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm playing around with using an old dvb card to grab the program listings data from dishnet for my uncle who wont have any internet connection to get listings from..... this is truly gross |
| [14:07:00] | Juski: | those rogue apostrophes really piss me off though |
| [14:07:00] | ** Juski devises a cunning method of OCRing the TV guide :-P ** | |
| [14:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well this would do the job. His spare dishnet receiver goining into a pvr250 for capture, but without a source of listings the EIT data would be perfect |
| [14:09:00] | Juski: | I've seen the EIT code – it's erm... tricky |
| [14:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | But enabling eit scanning sky rockets the load on the box, chews up gobs of ram and pounds the database since it's not caching the data |
| [14:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | in my tests I could see instances where the identical query gets executed 10–20 times a second |
| [14:10:00] | Juski: | yeh I think it's what's fucking up livetv on this box... tv occupies like 20% CPU then the EIT grabbing kicks in |
| [14:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm going to implement a map/cache to deal with the banging on the database, look at the rest afterward |
| [14:11:00] | Juski: | that might be good for the rest of us who might use EIT too |
| [14:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | I had no plans to keep it to myself ;) |
| [14:12:00] | Juski: | grab the stuff, _then_ pop it into the DB :) good plan |
| [14:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | well, a big killer is the constant selects on the database for the same info over and over |
| [14:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | 10–20 identical selects in under a second is a little much |
| [14:13:00] | Juski: | probably |
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| [14:22:00] | Juski: | looks to me like the DVB scanning has matured some more :) |
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| [14:27:00] | Juski: | pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp9uuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu* |
| [14:28:00] | Juski: | still key cleaning! |
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| [14:37:00] | t00m: | 2005-12–29 22:30:57.229 DVB#0 ERROR – No PIDS set, please correct your channel s |
| [14:37:00] | t00m: | etup. |
| [14:37:00] | t00m: | not that i changed anything. i had frontend on 2 machines running |
| [14:38:00] | t00m: | seems to have stopped now. how do i fix it? |
| [14:42:00] | t00m: | not all at once .. |
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| [15:14:00] | t00m: | ok, i found a script that seems to read my channel.conf and extract a shitload of numbers out of it |
| [15:14:00] | t00m: | also: apid and vpid |
| [15:14:00] | t00m: | is that what i'm looking for? |
| [15:14:00] | t00m: | if yes, where do i put them? |
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| [15:26:00] | t00m: | why is everyone talking when i'm not watching but noone is talking when i'm here :/ |
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| [15:40:00] | bronco1: | hello al |
| [15:40:00] | bronco1: | err all |
| [15:41:00] | bronco1: | anyone in here successfully do a "yum update" in the last few days on fedora? |
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| [15:50:00] | Beirdo: | how is that a mythtv question? |
| [15:51:00] | bronco1: | well, I am trying to install mythtv |
| [15:51:00] | Beirdo: | seems your problem is with Fedora, not myth |
| [15:51:00] | bronco1: | I am following jarods guide, tried to do a "yum update" |
| [15:51:00] | Beirdo: | ahh |
| [15:52:00] | bronco1: | I have asked this question in #fedora, #kde, #mysql and nobody can help! I am desperate... |
| [15:52:00] | bronco1: | actually the issue I have now is: QSqlDatabase: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded |
| [15:52:00] | bronco1: | I get that when I attempt to run mythtv-setup |
| [15:52:00] | Beirdo: | that's covered in the FAQ |
| [15:52:00] | bronco1: | I have mysql and qt-mysql installed |
| [15:52:00] | bronco1: | and I tried the command in the FAQ |
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| [15:54:00] | darkdrgn2k: | i tried adding this itno my INITTAB file |
| [15:54:00] | darkdrgn2k: | 7:2345:respawn:/bin/su – mythtv -c '/usr/X11R6/bin/startx' |
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| [15:54:00] | darkdrgn2k: | now its bitches about xauthirty |
| [15:54:00] | a1fa: | yelowZ! |
| [15:54:00] | darkdrgn2k: | any idea? |
| [15:54:00] | a1fa: | remove xauthority |
| [15:54:00] | a1fa: | and start over again |
| [15:55:00] | Beirdo: | eeek |
| [15:55:00] | ** a1fa peeks! ** | |
| [15:55:00] | t00m: | now you're talking again |
| [15:55:00] | Beirdo: | that's not a normal way to start X |
| [15:55:00] | Beirdo: | but it's up to you :) |
| [15:55:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Beirdo: i want it password less :-P |
| [15:55:00] | darkdrgn2k: | now its bithicn about authentitaation failesd |
| [15:55:00] | t00m: | lucky you, i fixed the problem by rescanning the channels |
| [15:56:00] | Beirdo: | and if X buggers up, you will have issues as it will continually respawn |
| [15:56:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Beirdo: so how do i get it to auto login |
| [15:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | darkdrgn2k: Why would you place that in an inittab entry? |
| [15:56:00] | Beirdo: | that's covered in the myth documentation, I think |
| [15:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | just place at at the end of your regular init scripts |
| [15:56:00] | ** a1fa peeks into svn :P ** | |
| [15:56:00] | Beirdo: | you use gdm if you want it to autologin |
| [15:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | mine is at the end of the stuff called by rc.local |
| [15:56:00] | darkdrgn2k: | GreyFoxx: i read it on the internet so it must be true |
| [15:57:00] | Beirdo: | and tell gdm to autologin after 5s |
| [15:57:00] | Beirdo: | that's the "normal" way |
| [15:57:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Beirdo: dam gatta install gdm :-P |
| [15:57:00] | ** a1fa makes a prediction that 0.19 will be released after New Years ** | |
| [15:57:00] | Beirdo: | you CAN put it in rc.local |
| [15:57:00] | Beirdo: | which is certainly better than inittab especially until you get it working :) |
| [15:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | There is no need to use a login manager |
| [15:57:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Beirdo: instaling gdb :-S |
| [15:57:00] | ** a1fa ducks ** | |
| [15:58:00] | Beirdo: | gdb? |
| [15:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | if it;s a dedicated mythbox |
| [15:58:00] | darkdrgn2k: | oops |
| [15:58:00] | Beirdo: | that's something different |
| [15:58:00] | darkdrgn2k: | gdm |
| [15:58:00] | Beirdo: | although not a bad idea either |
| [15:58:00] | darkdrgn2k: | (gdb is the dbugger) |
| [15:58:00] | a1fa: | darkdrgn2k : i use xinit in init.d script :P |
| [15:58:00] | darkdrgn2k: | so add it to rc.local |
| [15:58:00] | a1fa: | if you want to |
| [15:59:00] | darkdrgn2k: | a1fa: will the xauthority file still be an isssue? |
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| [15:59:00] | bronco1: | ok, so I did a "find /usr -name libqsqlmysql.so" and it returned "/usr/lib64/qt-3.3/plugins/sqldrivers/libqsqlmysql.so" |
| [16:00:00] | darkdrgn2k: | is there a way to run X running only a certain program (no display manager) |
| [16:00:00] | a1fa: | darkdrgn2k : dont worry about xauthority |
| [16:00:00] | a1fa: | you can rm -f that file |
| [16:00:00] | Spida_ is now known as Spida | |
| [16:00:00] | Beirdo: | you WANT a window manager |
| [16:00:00] | a1fa: | :P |
| [16:00:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Beirdo: LOL true |
| [16:00:00] | a1fa: | Beirdo : not really :P |
| [16:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | darkdrgn2k: Sure you can, but expect focus problems |
| [16:00:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Beirdo: BASCI window manager :-P |
| [16:00:00] | bronco1: | I then did a "nano /etc.ld.so.conf" and added the line "/usr/lib64/qt-3.3/plugins/sqldrivers/" at the bottom |
| [16:00:00] | a1fa: | GreyFoxx : i never had any focus problems, as of yet |
| [16:01:00] | Beirdo: | yes you do want one or you will certainly be back bitching about focus issues |
| [16:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | anyone using no window manager who has not had focus problems is just lucky so far |
| [16:01:00] | bronco1: | Then I did a /sbin/ldconfig |
| [16:01:00] | darkdrgn2k: | LOL |
| [16:01:00] | Beirdo: | I personally use ratpoison |
| [16:01:00] | ** a1fa me me me ** | |
| [16:01:00] | bronco1: | I still get the error: QSqlDatabase: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded |
| [16:01:00] | Beirdo: | there are many lightweight ones |
| [16:01:00] | darkdrgn2k: | i have the most foo bar mythtv front end in the world right now |
| [16:01:00] | a1fa: | hehe use KDE or GNOME |
| [16:01:00] | a1fa: | lol |
| [16:01:00] | darkdrgn2k: | windows XP runnign a FULL SCREEN VM server :-P |
| [16:01:00] | bronco1: | would this have anything to do with a 64-bit processor? |
| [16:02:00] | Beirdo: | did you add the path to the qt-mysql libs into /etc/ld.so.conf first? |
| [16:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | bronco1: It could be failing to find libmysqlclient, or maybe qt is compiled against a different version of mysql than you are using ? |
| [16:02:00] | a1fa: | darkdrgn2k : that is nasty |
| [16:03:00] | bronco1: | GreyFoxx, shouldn't adding the line to the ld.so.conf take care of the 1st? How can I check the 2nd? |
| [16:03:00] | darkdrgn2k: | a1fa: only way to get video out working on my 5200 radeon! |
| [16:03:00] | darkdrgn2k: | a1fa: like i said.. FOO BARED |
| [16:03:00] | Beirdo: | bronco1: did you add /usr/local/lib too? |
| [16:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | bronco1: Did you rerun ldconfig to rebuild the cache ? |
| [16:03:00] | Beirdo: | (just in case) |
| [16:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | just run ldconfig -v and grep for the QT sql plugin and for libmysqlclient |
| [16:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | make sure both are found |
| [16:04:00] | bronco1: | Beirdo, no I did not |
| [16:04:00] | bronco1: | GreyFoxx, yes I ran an /sbin/ldconfig |
| [16:04:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, do what GreyFoxx suggested, make sure the files are being seen by the system :) |
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| [16:05:00] | bronco1: | ok, one sec.. |
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| [16:08:00] | bronco1: | http://pastebin.com/482948 |
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| [16:08:00] | bronco1: | GreyFoxx, check out the pastebin above |
| [16:09:00] | docelmo: | help? :) KnoppMyth and PVR-150 HELP! |
| [16:09:00] | darkdrgn2k: | docelmo: whats wrong |
| [16:09:00] | docelmo: | damn remote again |
| [16:09:00] | darkdrgn2k: | docelmo: ooo i had rtobules with remote |
| [16:09:00] | darkdrgn2k: | docelmo: lirc 4.0 has support for the pvr-150 |
| [16:09:00] | docelmo: | I cant figure out what to do to make it work 100% with no issues |
| [16:09:00] | docelmo: | Should I just go buy another one? |
| [16:09:00] | darkdrgn2k: | docelmo: i havent relaly gotten that far yet.. sorry |
| [16:09:00] | a1fa: | docelmo |
| [16:09:00] | a1fa: | just ask |
| [16:09:00] | a1fa: | :P |
| [16:10:00] | a1fa: | dont askus to help you |
| [16:10:00] | a1fa: | we dont know what yer problem be? |
| [16:10:00] | a1fa: | is your herpes itching too bad? |
| [16:10:00] | praet: | omg |
| [16:10:00] | praet: | hey does anyone have digital cable with COX.net? |
| [16:10:00] | docelmo: | I am not looking for answers.. I am looking for suggestions on what directions I can look for information to resolve this issue once and for all |
| [16:11:00] | praet: | docelmo what distro? |
| [16:11:00] | darkdrgn2k: | what herpies? thry a local clinic |
| [16:11:00] | docelmo: | Can anyone recommend a good remote that does work if this one is so bad? |
| [16:11:00] | docelmo: | I am using KnoppMyth |
| [16:11:00] | darkdrgn2k: | decelmo: so far my pvr 150 has been workign 100 time better then my SB Live 5.1 remote ;-P |
| [16:12:00] | docelmo: | Ya.. My PVR works.. Im talking about the remote |
| [16:12:00] | darkdrgn2k: | docelmo: so am i |
| [16:12:00] | praet: | here too, remote working fine and i used knopp to test as well |
| [16:12:00] | darkdrgn2k: | docelmo: the pvr remote works better then the sb 5.1 eremote 100 times |
| [16:13:00] | docelmo: | I dont get it then |
| [16:13:00] | darkdrgn2k: | docelmo: WHAt is the problem |
| [16:13:00] | docelmo: | if it just works then why doesnt mine.. I run mythfrontend and use the remote and not a damn thing happens |
| [16:14:00] | darkdrgn2k: | gdm.com |
| [16:14:00] | darkdrgn2k: | i just need to do this righ |
| [16:14:00] | bronco1: | hmmm, it looks like there is a problem with the qt-mysql, but I'm not sure |
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| [16:14:00] | praet: | docelmo did you ever get it to work? |
| [16:14:00] | darkdrgn2k: | [daemon] |
| [16:14:00] | darkdrgn2k: | AutomaticLoginEnable=true |
| [16:14:00] | darkdrgn2k: | AutomaticLogin=mythtv |
| [16:14:00] | bronco1: | this line looks interesting: "sbin/ldconfig: Path `/usr/lib64/mysql' given more than once" |
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| [16:14:00] | corpix64: | hi |
| [16:14:00] | darkdrgn2k: | docelmo: run irw and see if it recognized the signals |
| [16:15:00] | docelmo: | it has worked once.. then I had to reboot.. well then it stopped.. |
| [16:15:00] | darkdrgn2k: | docelmo: run irw and see if it recognized the signals |
| [16:15:00] | corpix64: | i just heard about some issues of a "technisat skystar2" and nforce4 chipset, which seems to be a dangerouse mixture --- what about a "Hauppauge WinTV NOVA-s plus" ? Does it run, how about lirc ? |
| [16:16:00] | docelmo: | irw doesnt do a damn thing for me.. Nothing shows up |
| [16:16:00] | bronco1: | can anyone assist please? |
| [16:16:00] | darkdrgn2k: | docelmo: any eror messages.. |
| [16:16:00] | corpix64: | anyone ? |
| [16:16:00] | darkdrgn2k: | docelmo: is your lircd runnin? |
| [16:16:00] | docelmo: | nope.. nada |
| [16:16:00] | docelmo: | yes |
| [16:17:00] | corpix64: | docelmo: lirc_serial ß' |
| [16:17:00] | corpix64: | ? |
| [16:17:00] | darkdrgn2k: | no |
| [16:17:00] | darkdrgn2k: | its not serial for the 150 |
| [16:17:00] | corpix64: | k |
| [16:17:00] | corpix64: | just asking |
| [16:17:00] | docelmo: | I am using PVR150 for the remote |
| [16:17:00] | darkdrgn2k: | but the driver |
| [16:17:00] | corpix64: | anyone here with a hauppauge nova-s card ? |
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| [16:18:00] | darkdrgn2k: | docelmo: try killing LIRCD and run it manuals |
| [16:18:00] | darkdrgn2k: | i use |
| [16:18:00] | darkdrgn2k: | /usr/local/sbin/lircd -d /dev/lirc0 |
| [16:18:00] | darkdrgn2k: | make sure that you have a /dev/lirc0 first |
| [16:18:00] | darkdrgn2k: | might be /dev/lirc/0 |
| [16:18:00] | darkdrgn2k: | (kill lircd then check0 |
| [16:19:00] | docelmo: | k 1 sec |
| [16:19:00] | praet: | corpix64 i dont have one but i know they work |
| [16:19:00] | darkdrgn2k: | how do i satart an app when x start.. just add it to ~/.xinitrc ? |
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| [16:19:00] | corpix64: | praet: good, well, i am about to buy one, so you mean there is no issue ;) ? |
| [16:19:00] | docelmo: | I dont have a lirc0 |
| [16:20:00] | darkdrgn2k: | docelmo: /dev/lirc/0 ?? |
| [16:20:00] | docelmo: | mine are /dev/lirc and /dev/lirc1 |
| [16:20:00] | corpix64: | the skystar2 seems to overheat on nforce4 boards, but it is known to run, too, you know what i mean ;) ? |
| [16:20:00] | darkdrgn2k: | 2 ?!?!? |
| [16:20:00] | darkdrgn2k: | do a lsmod |
| [16:20:00] | darkdrgn2k: | see if you have |
| [16:20:00] | darkdrgn2k: | lirc_i2c |
| [16:21:00] | darkdrgn2k: | (or lsmod | grep lirc_i2c |
| [16:21:00] | docelmo: | nope |
| [16:21:00] | darkdrgn2k: | modprobe lirc_i2c |
| [16:21:00] | praet: | corpix64 just make sure to get the right freqids and scan for channels |
| [16:21:00] | darkdrgn2k: | :-D |
| [16:22:00] | darkdrgn2k: | for my PVR150 here are the modules i need to run: |
| [16:22:00] | darkdrgn2k: | msp3400 |
| [16:22:00] | darkdrgn2k: | cx25840 |
| [16:22:00] | darkdrgn2k: | lirc_i2c |
| [16:22:00] | darkdrgn2k: | ivtv |
| [16:22:00] | praet: | darkdrgn2k do you use the transmitter? |
| [16:22:00] | darkdrgn2k: | praet: not yet.. just got the card 2 days ago :-P |
| [16:22:00] | darkdrgn2k: | praet: havent gotten to the treansmitter next |
| [16:22:00] | docelmo: | I got mine christmas.. :) |
| [16:22:00] | darkdrgn2k: | i got mine for crhistamss gift certificate |
| [16:23:00] | darkdrgn2k: | it works better then the ATI BTTV krap i had before |
| [16:23:00] | darkdrgn2k: | from 50 cpu ussage down to 2 :-D |
| [16:23:00] | docelmo: | I still dont have /dev/lirc0 |
| [16:23:00] | docelmo: | sigh |
| [16:23:00] | darkdrgn2k: | well try |
| [16:24:00] | darkdrgn2k: | tail -f /var/log/lircd & |
| [16:24:00] | darkdrgn2k: | then stop lircd |
| [16:24:00] | darkdrgn2k: | and run |
| [16:25:00] | darkdrgn2k: | /usr/local/sbin/lircd -d /dev/lirc |
| [16:25:00] | darkdrgn2k: | lircd -d /dev/lirc |
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| [16:25:00] | darkdrgn2k: | if tHAT doesnt work grab 7.2 from the site.. thats what i did.. works like a charm |
| [16:26:00] | darkdrgn2k: | also run a dmesg | grep i2c |
| [16:26:00] | darkdrgn2k: | look for lirc_i2c: chip found @ 0x71 (Hauppauge IR (PVR150)) |
| [16:26:00] | bronco1: | hmm |
| [16:26:00] | darkdrgn2k: | (rember im not running knoppmyth... so things might be slightly differnt) |
| [16:26:00] | docelmo: | Nope.. for the most part they are the same |
| [16:27:00] | darkdrgn2k: | most part... i know |
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| [16:31:00] | darkdrgn2k: | how do i auto execute a program in X |
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| [16:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | That would really depend on your window manager |
| [16:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | they all do it differently |
| [16:33:00] | docelmo: | darkdrgn2k just run it |
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| [16:33:00] | docelmo: | I mainly do it from terminal |
| [16:33:00] | darkdrgn2k: | docelmo: yes but this is a settop :-P |
| [16:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | docelmo: He wants it to auto boot up and auto launch |
| [16:33:00] | darkdrgn2k: | GreyFoxx: icewm |
| [16:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | darkdrgn2k: Ok, I use that |
| [16:33:00] | darkdrgn2k: | GreyFoxx: i got the auto boot done :-P |
| [16:33:00] | docelmo: | ohh try rc.local |
| [16:33:00] | darkdrgn2k: | GreyFoxx: so how do i auto launch |
| [16:33:00] | keyhack: | What are the legal implications of me developing a HTPC with MythTV on it and selling it commercially? |
| [16:34:00] | docelmo: | alot.. Check the license |
| [16:34:00] | darkdrgn2k: | keyhack: you must stick with GPL.. |
| [16:34:00] | docelmo: | darkdrgn2k what kinda settop do you have? |
| [16:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | keyhack: you have to release any code if requested |
| [16:34:00] | darkdrgn2k: | docelmo: you dont want to know :-P |
| [16:34:00] | keyhack: | Afaik, GPL means that I have to have the code available |
| [16:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | darkdrgn2k: just create a "startup" file in your .icewm directory |
| [16:34:00] | darkdrgn2k: | keyhack: unless you code shit yourself.. and not IN myth |
| [16:34:00] | docelmo: | ya.. I would like to get ideas for my house |
| [16:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythtv@woop:~/.icewm$ cat startup |
| [16:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythtv@woop:~/.icewm$ ls -la startup |
| [16:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | -rwxr-xr-x 1 mythtv users 73 2005-11–05 22:00 startup |
| [16:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythtv@woop:~/.icewm$ cat startup |
| [16:35:00] | keyhack: | darkdrgn2k: Even then, the MythTV code must be available anyways right? |
| [16:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | /usr/bin/nvidia-settings -a TVOverScan=16 & |
| [16:35:00] | keyhack: | darkdrgn2k: Easy enough, just put it on the website |
| [16:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | /usr/local/bin/mythfrontend& |
| [16:35:00] | darkdrgn2k: | keyhack: if you code your own program NOT cat of mythtv.. then that part is yours |
| [16:35:00] | darkdrgn2k: | keyhack: you cant accept money for mythtv.. only the work you do getting it on the computer |
| [16:35:00] | docelmo: | keyhack put it this way.. You can sell everything including labor but as for MythTV you have to 0 dollar it when you invoice it to someone |
| [16:35:00] | darkdrgn2k: | keyhack: and linux cant sell linux |
| [16:35:00] | Beirdo: | ummm |
| [16:36:00] | docelmo: | anywho.. lemme check me again.. I just rebooted |
| [16:36:00] | Beirdo: | you can accept money for mythtv, what makes you thing that? |
| [16:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah you can charge for it |
| [16:36:00] | keyhack: | darkdrgn2k: Well, I know that, I'm selling the set top box unit with the software already on there, I'm not specifically selling MythTV or Linux |
| [16:36:00] | Beirdo: | GPL says NOTHING about it |
| [16:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | you just can't take credit for it and must give out ht esource if it's requested |
| [16:36:00] | Beirdo: | aye |
| [16:36:00] | darkdrgn2k: | keyhack: yes but in your cost break down you CANT sell linux of Myth |
| [16:36:00] | darkdrgn2k: | and you UST make them available to whoever wants it |
| [16:36:00] | Beirdo: | sure you can |
| [16:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | darkdrgn2k: Of course you can |
| [16:37:00] | darkdrgn2k: | GreyFoxx: you CAN sell mythtv??? |
| [16:37:00] | ** keyhack is now confused ** | |
| [16:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | of course you can |
| [16:37:00] | Beirdo: | why anyone would PAY for something that's free, I dunno |
| [16:37:00] | Beirdo: | but you CAN |
| [16:37:00] | darkdrgn2k: | GreyFoxx: how can you sell myth tv? |
| [16:37:00] | bronco1: | GreyFoxx, would you have a second to help resolve the qt-mysql issue? |
| [16:37:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Beirdo: TIVO is linux based :-P |
| [16:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | By me giving it to you and you giving me money |
| [16:37:00] | keyhack: | Well, I'm trying to make a set top box at my computer store where its already in there, ready to go |
| [16:37:00] | bronco1: | ppl would pay for support and help, not for the software... |
| [16:37:00] | keyhack: | and I'll probably code some extra features in, that doesn't come with MythTV, and some services |
| [16:37:00] | docelmo: | YIPPIE! My remote finally works |
| [16:37:00] | bronco1: | just like red hat linux |
| [16:38:00] | keyhack: | I understand that any changes to MythTV that I may code, that version needs to be released, no big deal |
| [16:38:00] | darkdrgn2k: | keyhack: any programs you make yourself |
| [16:38:00] | praet: | great docelmo |
| [16:38:00] | darkdrgn2k: | (liek TIVO DID) are not bound by GPL |
| [16:38:00] | keyhack: | I have not decided if I'm even going to use MythTV yet, I'm still researching it |
| [16:38:00] | darkdrgn2k: | docelmo: great to hear it |
| [16:38:00] | docelmo: | I dont know.. You need to look at the GPL.. The asterisk community right now is having the same delema.. People are selling asterisk when they need a commercial license |
| [16:39:00] | ** bronco1 starts to wimper ** | |
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| [16:39:00] | jono: | hi all |
| [16:39:00] | Beirdo: | docelmo: asterisk is dual-licensed |
| [16:39:00] | Beirdo: | mythtv is not (last I heard) |
| [16:39:00] | keyhack: | darkdrgn2k: Right... I know that, but if I tweak MythTV, and change it around (maybe strip out stuff, etc), then I'm modifying the code, and I have to release it (just because _I_ did it doesn't mean I get to keep it) |
| [16:39:00] | Beirdo: | it's GPL |
| [16:39:00] | jono: | hows it going folks? |
| [16:39:00] | darkdrgn2k: | keyhack: yep thast GPL |
| [16:39:00] | keyhack: | MythTV is GPL (forget how I found it) |
| [16:39:00] | Beirdo: | keyhack: if you distribute code based on GPL, it's GPL. |
| [16:40:00] | keyhack: | brb, phone |
| [16:40:00] | keyhack: | thanks for the input, i'll brb |
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| [16:40:00] | Beirdo: | if you make mods for yourself and never give em away to anyone, you can do whatever you want |
| [16:40:00] | darkdrgn2k: | keyhack: YAY myth works |
| [16:40:00] | darkdrgn2k: | now hw do i get rid of the ugly ICEWM bar at the bottom :) |
| [16:40:00] | Beirdo: | remove icewm? |
| [16:41:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:41:00] | Beirdo: | I'm sure there's a way |
| [16:41:00] | docelmo: | darkdrgn2k, can you recommend a good case or a site that sell's entertainment center cases? |
| [16:42:00] | darkfrog: | Hey guys, I updated my zap2it account to remove some channels from my lineup, and I did mythfilldatabase but the channels are still there....is there something else I should do? |
| [16:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | darkfrog: .icewm/preferences ShowTaskBar=0 |
| [16:42:00] | darkfrog: | GreyFoxx: ? |
| [16:42:00] | praet: | darkdrgn2k TaskBarKeepBelow = 1 or TaskBarAutoHide = 1 /.icewm/preferences |
| [16:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | oops that was for the other "dark" in here |
| [16:43:00] | darkdrgn2k: | deego: nop.... but buy an XBOX.. (not 360) and conver it into a MYTHTV settop :-P |
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| [16:43:00] | darkdrgn2k: | deego: its cheaper |
| [16:43:00] | darkfrog: | hehe |
| [16:43:00] | deego: | hm? |
| [16:43:00] | deego: | ah |
| [16:43:00] | praet: | darkfrog remove them from the database, you can use mythtvsetup's channel editor |
| [16:43:00] | darkdrgn2k: | thast what im thinking of doing |
| [16:44:00] | darkdrgn2k: | 1) no worires about overheating |
| [16:44:00] | darkdrgn2k: | 2) pritty cheap |
| [16:44:00] | darkdrgn2k: | 3) built in TV out :-P |
| [16:44:00] | darkdrgn2k: | 4) supports front leds and stuff |
| [16:44:00] | darkfrog: | praet: I read something that said it would automatically remove it for you....? |
| [16:44:00] | darkdrgn2k: | 5) im sure i can find an emulator to run X box games in linux too |
| [16:44:00] | Beirdo: | ummm, xboxes can overheat too |
| [16:44:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Beirdo: i dought its would be as bad as my settop |
| [16:44:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Beirdo: the power supply was so hot i couildnt touch it! |
| [16:44:00] | praet: | darkfrog i think only if you havent ever run mythfilldb |
| [16:44:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Beirdo: supprised it still works |
| [16:45:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:45:00] | darkfrog: | Would it mess up my recording schedules if I completely deleted the content of that table and ran mythfilldatabase again?> |
| [16:45:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Beirdo: but for 150 bucks getting a mythsettop.. |
| [16:46:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [16:47:00] | darkdrgn2k: | 180 at best buy.. what are they NUTS |
| [16:47:00] | praet: | darkfrog: backup your db first ;) |
| [16:47:00] | darkdrgn2k: | (no not 360.. 180 bucks!!! for original xbost) |
| [16:47:00] | Beirdo: | worst buy |
| [16:47:00] | darkdrgn2k: | LOL |
| [16:47:00] | darkdrgn2k: | i got a gift certificate.. |
| [16:47:00] | darkdrgn2k: | soo |
| [16:48:00] | darkfrog: | the original XBox has a tv tuner card? |
| [16:48:00] | darkdrgn2k: | darkfrog: no.. but you use a back end server w/ tuner |
| [16:48:00] | darkdrgn2k: | darkfrog: and network them |
| [16:48:00] | darkfrog: | hehe |
| [16:49:00] | darkfrog: | you're not saving much money then |
| [16:49:00] | darkdrgn2k: | darkfrog: hell it even comes with a remote... |
| [16:49:00] | darkdrgn2k: | darkfrog: sure you are.. |
| [16:49:00] | darkdrgn2k: | darkfrog: 150 per settop box.. you can mythenable every comuter in your house |
| [16:49:00] | darkdrgn2k: | uhh tv in your hosse |
| [16:49:00] | darkfrog: | I can build an entire system for under $400 including remote and tuner. :-p |
| [16:49:00] | darkdrgn2k: | get the WIFI adapter for it.. bingo |
| [16:49:00] | Beirdo: | eek |
| [16:50:00] | Beirdo: | wifi? |
| [16:50:00] | darkdrgn2k: | darkfrog: really... that be nice.. i just want a tv-out card fro under 100 bucks! |
| [16:50:00] | Beirdo: | you better mean 802.11g |
| [16:50:00] | darkdrgn2k: | darkfrog: i have to run linux in a VM window right now to get the dam ati out runnin |
| [16:50:00] | darkfrog: | darkdrgn2k: tv-out you can get for cheap if you get a GeForce 4 |
| [16:50:00] | darkdrgn2k: | darkfrog: that be nice :( |
| [16:50:00] | corpix64: | tv-out on almost all geforce cards fucks up the text console using twinview |
| [16:51:00] | darkfrog: | darkdrgn2k: my ati works like a dream |
| [16:51:00] | darkdrgn2k: | darkfrog: my ati is 5200 .. only works in vesa |
| [16:51:00] | darkfrog: | mine's 9600 Pro |
| [16:51:00] | darkdrgn2k: | darkfrog: i got ike 3 AIW. all ussless :( |
| [16:52:00] | darkfrog: | is it a radeon? |
| [16:52:00] | darkdrgn2k: | darkfrog: 2 are radeon on is rage |
| [16:52:00] | Beirdo: | the AIW isn't useless if it's new enough |
| [16:52:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Beirdo: nix no support it |
| [16:52:00] | Beirdo: | you can't use the capture, but the output part should work |
| [16:52:00] | darkfrog: | darkdrgn2k: you should be g2g on the radeon's....have you downloaded the new linux drivers from ATI? |
| [16:52:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Beirdo: couldnt get it to work |
| [16:53:00] | Beirdo: | that's different |
| [16:53:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:53:00] | darkdrgn2k: | darkfrog: to old for radeons nix drivers |
| [16:53:00] | darkfrog: | darkdrgn2k: they're easier to configure than nVidia's drivers even! |
| [16:53:00] | darkdrgn2k: | hear videa has better out capabilities |
| [16:53:00] | darkdrgn2k: | fuck.. 20 bucks on e-bay for a geforve 4 |
| [16:53:00] | darkdrgn2k: | then 30 bucks shipping! |
| [16:54:00] | darkfrog: | darkdrgn2k: I switched from a GeForce 4 and I like the ATI S-Video out MUCH better on the ATI...I had problems with the nVidia cards. |
| [16:54:00] | Beirdo: | ATI's tv-out is better than nvidia's until VERY recently when nvidia finally put good TV-out circuits on their cards |
| [16:54:00] | corpix64: | darkdrgn2k: i could give you a gf2mx400, tvout |
| [16:54:00] | Beirdo: | the drivers are the issue |
| [16:55:00] | darkfrog: | so what do I do about my channel lineup not updating properly? |
| [16:55:00] | darkdrgn2k: | corpix64: LOL wouldnt that be nice |
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| [16:55:00] | darkdrgn2k: | darkfrog: mythtv-setup.. delete your sources (not camputer) and re do themn |
| [16:55:00] | darkdrgn2k: | would the ATI Radeon 9600SE 128MB Video Card work? |
| [16:55:00] | Beirdo: | darkfrog: if you removed channels, the data will still be in the DB |
| [16:56:00] | darkfrog: | darkdrgn2k: should just fine |
| [16:56:00] | Beirdo: | you'll have to wipe the data as well to completely get rid of them |
| [16:56:00] | darkdrgn2k: | 70 buck at best buy :-S |
| [16:56:00] | darkfrog: | Beirdo, so after like 10 days (when the data is no longer valid) the channels will disapear? |
| [16:56:00] | Beirdo: | yeah a 9600SE should be fine. the 9200SE was fine, the 9600pro is nicer :) |
| [16:56:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, it shouldn't ADD more data for the channels |
| [16:56:00] | ** darkfrog loves his 9600 pro ** | |
| [16:57:00] | Beirdo: | but the old stuff won't disappear until it's old or you remove it yourself |
| [16:57:00] | darkfrog: | Beirdo: but after there's no data left the chanell will just disapear? |
| [16:57:00] | darkdrgn2k: | get the 9600 or eVGA GeForce MX 4000 64MB Video Card |
| [16:57:00] | Beirdo: | it should |
| [16:57:00] | Beirdo: | I think |
| [16:57:00] | darkdrgn2k: | wich one has better tuo |
| [16:57:00] | darkfrog: | 9600+ |
| [16:57:00] | Beirdo: | at worst, run setup, tell it to wipe and then run the filldatabase |
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| [16:58:00] | darkfrog: | Beirdo, would that delete my recording schedules? |
| [16:58:00] | Beirdo: | not that I know of |
| [16:58:00] | darkfrog: | hehe |
| [16:58:00] | darkfrog: | great answer |
| [16:58:00] | darkdrgn2k: | ok ill ge tthe ATI Radeon 9600SE 128MB Video Card |
| [16:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | it wont |
| [16:58:00] | darkdrgn2k: | anhway i gatta get to work |
| [16:58:00] | darkdrgn2k: | peace out boys |
| [16:58:00] | Beirdo: | working is overrated |
| [16:58:00] | darkfrog: | GreyFoxx: it will only delete the data from zap2it? |
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| [16:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [16:59:00] | Beirdo: | it should clear the program info and the channel info (there are two questions asked, no?) |
| [16:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | I think it still asks both questions |
| [16:59:00] | Beirdo: | the recording schedule's in a different database table and should be untouched |
| [16:59:00] | darkfrog: | can I run mythtvsetup from shell or is it XWindows? I can't remember... |
| [16:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | you might have to resetup the video source, that I don't remember |
| [17:00:00] | Beirdo: | it's X |
| [17:00:00] | darkfrog: | doh |
| [17:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | I just clear them manually in the database when I need to |
| [17:00:00] | darkfrog: | thanks guys, appreciated |
| [17:00:00] | Beirdo: | much to the annoyance of many remote users, I bet :) |
| [17:00:00] | darkfrog: | GreyFoxx: how? |
| [17:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | delete from program; |
| [17:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | delete from channel; |
| [17:00:00] | Beirdo: | I go in with phpMyAdmin and delete stuff |
| [17:00:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [17:00:00] | darkfrog: | GreyFoxx: delete from "program" and "channel" tables? |
| [17:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | or if I wanted to delete a specific channel I would make the query channel specific |
| [17:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | darkfrog: those were the exact lines |
| [17:01:00] | darkfrog: | hehe |
| [17:01:00] | Beirdo: | then rerun mythfilldatabase, of course |
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| [17:02:00] | darkfrog: | done and reloading data now. :o |
| [17:02:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [17:02:00] | Beirdo: | nothing a little database clobbering (selectively) can't fix |
| [17:03:00] | darkfrog: | hehe |
| [17:03:00] | darkfrog: | you mean I shouldn't have done "drop database mythconverg;" :o |
| [17:03:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:03:00] | Beirdo: | that WOULD remove the extra channels for sure |
| [17:03:00] | darkfrog: | hehe |
| [17:04:00] | darkfrog: | so would formatting the hard drive. ;) |
| [17:04:00] | Beirdo: | and save you a pile of disk space too |
| [17:04:00] | darkfrog: | hehe |
| [17:04:00] | Beirdo: | jeez |
| [17:04:00] | Beirdo: | still have 82h of crap to watch |
| [17:04:00] | danieldk: | Hi guys, i'm building minimyth from GAR, could you help me out a bit? |
| [17:05:00] | Beirdo: | never heard of GAR or minimyth |
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| [17:05:00] | darkfrog: | hehe, I got ya beat... |
| [17:06:00] | danieldk: | Beirdo :-) okay then |
| [17:06:00] | Beirdo: | darkfrog: this is down from the 130h or so earlier |
| [17:06:00] | darkfrog: | I have 390 hours. :o |
| [17:06:00] | Beirdo: | you are insane |
| [17:06:00] | darkfrog: | hehe |
| [17:07:00] | darkfrog: | total space: 527gig |
| [17:07:00] | darkfrog: | space free: 130gig |
| [17:07:00] | Beirdo: | 94 programs, using 165 GB (76 hrs) out of 400 GB (172 GB free). |
| [17:07:00] | Beirdo: | after deleting crap I won't watch |
| [17:07:00] | praet: | darkfrog records the tv guide channel |
| [17:08:00] | Beirdo: | I should delete some of the test recordings from my old devel PVR some decade too |
| [17:08:00] | darkfrog: | the majority of space is taken up by my wife wanting to record EVERY episode of Murder She Wrote and then have me put them on DVD for her. :o |
| [17:08:00] | Beirdo: | how sad |
| [17:08:00] | darkfrog: | praet: ....then you have everything. :-p |
| [17:08:00] | Beirdo: | could be worse |
| [17:08:00] | Beirdo: | could be some dumb show like survivor :) |
| [17:08:00] | darkfrog: | true. :) |
| [17:09:00] | Beirdo: | time to toss some South Park |
| [17:09:00] | darkfrog: | is there any streaming plugin to be able to watch streamed tv remotely? |
| [17:09:00] | Beirdo: | not that I'm aware of |
| [17:10:00] | darkfrog: | I tried MythStream, but it sucked and iddn't even do what I wanted it to....it's to listen/watch streams from the mythbox. |
| [17:10:00] | bronco1: | Beirdo, I seem to have qt-mysql installed but there is a conflict in the ldconfig: /sbin/ldconfig: Path `/usr/lib64/mysql' given more than once |
| [17:10:00] | bronco1: | any ideas? |
| [17:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | darkfrog: I just use vlc and call it from the channel |
| [17:10:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, make sure it's not in /etc/ld.so.conf twice |
| [17:10:00] | darkfrog: | vlc? |
| [17:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes vlc |
| [17:11:00] | bronco1: | Beirdo, this line is in the ld.so.conf: include ld.so.conf.d/*.conf |
| [17:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | streaming/transcoding server+ client |
| [17:11:00] | bronco1: | that is it, I removed the other line |
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| [17:12:00] | darkfrog: | GreyFoxx: http://www.videolan.org/streaming/ <-- this? |
| [17:13:00] | Beirdo: | I need to find a way to get mplayer to feed icecast |
| [17:13:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:13:00] | Beirdo: | without using line out / line in |
| [17:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | darkfrog: yes |
| [17:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | it's what mythstreamtv uses for streaming recordings |
| [17:14:00] | darkfrog: | GreyFoxx: cool.... |
| [17:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | I just call it manually for recordings and for streaming livetv from my tuners |
| [17:14:00] | bronco1: | ok, so I did an ls of /etc/ld.so.conf.d/ |
| [17:14:00] | bronco1: | Does this mean that more thanone of the files in there contain /usr/lib64/mysql/ ? |
| [17:15:00] | Beirdo: | grep is your friend |
| [17:15:00] | Cardoe: | hey Beirdo |
| [17:15:00] | ** bronco1 needs to read more about linux ** | |
| [17:15:00] | Beirdo: | heya, Cardoe |
| [17:15:00] | Cardoe: | you know jarod's IRC nick/ |
| [17:15:00] | bronco1: | Beirdo, how can I list the contents of files in a dir though? |
| [17:16:00] | darkfrog: | GreyFoxx: why not just use mythstreamtv |
| [17:16:00] | Beirdo: | Cardoe: it's j-rod last I saw him, but it's been a while |
| [17:16:00] | Beirdo: | bronco1: hmmm? |
| [17:16:00] | Beirdo: | man grep |
| [17:16:00] | darkfrog: | GreyFoxx: btw, that's what I was looking for. :-p MythStream != MythStreamTV |
| [17:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | darkfrog: I dont' like th einteface |
| [17:16:00] | Cardoe: | whois j-rod |
| [17:16:00] | Cardoe: | doh |
| [17:16:00] | darkfrog: | hehe |
| [17:16:00] | Beirdo: | grep will search files for the string you ask |
| [17:16:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | and it's not flexible enough for my uses |
| [17:16:00] | Beirdo: | nice one |
| [17:16:00] | Cardoe: | guess I need to e-mail him |
| [17:17:00] | bronco1: | I can grep for files, but listing the contents of multiple files I am not sure |
| [17:17:00] | darkfrog: | GreyFoxx: I'll give it a try and see if I agree with that. ;) |
| [17:17:00] | Beirdo: | ? |
| [17:17:00] | Cardoe: | know his e-mail? |
| [17:17:00] | Beirdo: | Cardoe: not offhand, but I think it's on his site, isn't it? |
| [17:17:00] | Cardoe: | I dunno his site. |
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| [17:17:00] | praet: | jarod@wilsonet.com |
| [17:17:00] | Csigaa: | hi... |
| [17:18:00] | Cardoe: | thx |
| [17:18:00] | Beirdo: | google for Jarod Mythtv would find his site, I'm pretty sure :) |
| [17:18:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [17:18:00] | bronco1: | www.wilsonet.com |
| [17:18:00] | praet: | Beirdo: same as "Beirdo mythtv" |
| [17:19:00] | Beirdo: | eek |
| [17:19:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:19:00] | Beirdo: | true |
| [17:19:00] | praet: | im going to piggyback your wiki |
| [17:19:00] | praet: | :P |
| [17:20:00] | bronco1: | Berido, do I need to remove one of the lines in any file from /etc/ld.so.conf.d/ ? |
| [17:20:00] | bronco1: | I am not sure which file to remove the line from |
| [17:21:00] | Beirdo: | I dunno either |
| [17:21:00] | Beirdo: | it only needs to be in one |
| [17:21:00] | Beirdo: | I don't think it really matters which one |
| [17:21:00] | bronco1: | ok, where can I read about linux to understand how to troubleshoot? |
| [17:21:00] | bronco1: | well, troubleshoot specific issues like this... |
| [17:22:00] | keyhack: | ok back |
| [17:22:00] | Beirdo: | ummm, google? I don't keep track of all the resources anymore |
| [17:22:00] | ** bronco1 has already tried using google for /etc/ld.so.conf.d/ ** | |
| [17:22:00] | Beirdo: | that's likely a Fedora-specific issue |
| [17:22:00] | bronco1: | ok |
| [17:22:00] | bronco1: | maybe I'll try in fedora chan |
| [17:23:00] | Csigaa: | I have the same compilation problem described in here |
| [17:23:00] | Csigaa: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . eaded#160077 — I have both tried with GCC 3.4 and GCC 4.0, but the error is the same. Any ideas? |
| [17:23:00] | Beirdo: | they might know :) |
| [17:24:00] | Beirdo: | OK, I think I need more coffee |
| [17:24:00] | Beirdo: | time for a liquid lunch.. coffeeeeee! |
| [17:26:00] | jalex: | anyone use atrpms mythtv-suite with an HD card? |
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| [17:26:00] | bronco1: | jalex, I am trying to now |
| [17:26:00] | bronco1: | but I cannot get mythtv-setup to run because of an issue with mysql on a x86_64 platform |
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| [17:29:00] | praet: | Csigaa search http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/ircLog/index.php?date=2005-08-12 for PESPacket |
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| [17:35:00] | bronco1: | well, I think I am going to call it quits |
| [17:36:00] | Beirdo: | take a break, dude, come back to it again later |
| [17:36:00] | Csigaa: | praet: the apt source written there is no longer available :( |
| [17:37:00] | bronco1: | Beirdo, yeah it's hard not to get frustrated after spending 2 days and cannot even run mythtv-setup! |
| [17:38:00] | bronco1: | I think my next step is to re-format and install a i386 build |
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| [17:38:00] | redline-: | heya all |
| [17:38:00] | bronco1: | I think the x86_64 packages need some work still... |
| [17:38:00] | Beirdo: | that could be |
| [17:39:00] | redline-: | anyone able to map a suspend command to their remote keys? |
| [17:39:00] | Cardoe: | bronco1: just remove any of the lines |
| [17:39:00] | Cardoe: | if you have the same problem again when you update some software |
| [17:39:00] | Cardoe: | remove the other line |
| [17:40:00] | praet: | Csigaa were you able to trace where that PESPacket variable is declared? |
| [17:40:00] | _willcooke_: | bronco1, I tried to compile SVN on 64bit ubuntu, and gave up and went back to 32bit, I've got a list of all the ubuntu packages I installed (they would be similar for debian) |
| [17:40:00] | redline-: | i got myth svn compiled on my 64 bit as of last night, mythweb was the only problem I had with make |
| [17:40:00] | Cardoe: | Csigaa: you can't get that error with gcc 3.4 |
| [17:40:00] | Cardoe: | Csigaa: it doesn't check for that stuff. |
| [17:41:00] | _willcooke_: | bronco1, http://www.whizzy.org/mythinstall.txt |
| [17:41:00] | Cardoe: | Csigaa: you need 0-18-fixes, or 0.19 |
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| [17:42:00] | Csigaa: | where can I get 0.19? |
| [17:42:00] | Csigaa: | on the official site is only 0.18 |
| [17:42:00] | redline-: | cvs.hythtv.org |
| [17:43:00] | Csigaa: | CVS? |
| [17:43:00] | Csigaa: | OK! |
| [17:43:00] | redline-: | mythtv.org sorry |
| [17:43:00] | bronco1: | Cardoe, I just commented out one of the lines in mysqlclient10-x86_64.conf |
| [17:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | svn actually. the cvs hostname might work, but the projefct uses svn |
| [17:43:00] | bronco1: | _willcooke_, I am using fc4 fedora |
| [17:43:00] | redline-: | once you goto that page though Grey it gives you the svn commands |
| [17:43:00] | Csigaa: | thanks! |
| [17:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | red : I'm aware of that |
| [17:44:00] | redline-: | I know =p your aware of everything |
| [17:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | but using the cvs hostname can confuse users and will likely not work forever |
| [17:44:00] | redline-: | is there an svn.mythtv.org? |
| [17:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [17:44:00] | redline-: | ohhh i didnt know that |
| [17:45:00] | redline-: | ive only used the cvs one |
| [17:46:00] | bronco1: | redline-, is there a changelog for .19 yet? |
| [17:46:00] | Csigaa: | bye! |
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| [17:46:00] | redline-: | Grey do you know of anyway to map a suspend command to a remote key? |
| [17:46:00] | redline-: | I havent checked the changelog for .19 |
| [17:47:00] | redline-: | it however is very nice |
| [17:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | a suspect key? |
| [17:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | err suspend |
| [17:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | like putting it into hibernation ? |
| [17:47:00] | redline-: | yea so i can suspend the machine when not in use |
| [17:47:00] | redline-: | yes |
| [17:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | read: well I don't know how you control your remote, but if it's lirc you can get lirc to call a shellscript when a button is pressed |
| [17:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | and if you can get a shellscript to suspend the pc that would do it |
| [17:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | it's not something O |
| [17:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | I |
| [17:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | would use |
| [17:49:00] | redline-: | yea i use lirc, wasnt sure if oyu could call external shells from inside myth with lirc |
| [17:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | I know there is some auto wake up stuff in myth so I imagine searching the mailing list would find out how people are suspending the machines |
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| [17:50:00] | ** bronco1 attempts to install fc4 x86 ** | |
| [17:51:00] | Fitzsimmons: | why |
| [17:51:00] | redline-: | bronco install Gentoo 64 |
| [17:51:00] | bronco1: | eh? |
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| [17:51:00] | bronco1: | I am pretty much a linux newb |
| [17:51:00] | Beirdo: | redline-: no distro evangalization, please |
| [17:52:00] | redline-: | sorry confused you for another person asking about 64 bit |
| [17:52:00] | Beirdo: | hehe :) |
| [17:52:00] | redline-: | sorry Beirdo |
| [17:52:00] | bronco1: | adios! |
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| [17:52:00] | Beirdo: | we don't need religious distro wars today :) |
| [17:52:00] | Beirdo: | but whatever :)_ |
| [17:53:00] | Fitzsimmons: | hehe |
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| [17:53:00] | Fitzsimmons: | fc4 is overrated IMO |
| [17:53:00] | redline-: | I only like gentoo becasue I put alot of time into learning it |
| [17:53:00] | Fitzsimmons: | especially for mythtv |
| [17:53:00] | Beirdo: | I stopped using Fedora at FC1 |
| [17:53:00] | Fitzsimmons: | it was a bitch to get anything to work, and it really felt like the hoops you had to jump through to modify the kernel was a huge kludge |
| [17:53:00] | redline-: | emerge is your friend! |
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| [17:54:00] | Beirdo: | emerge is a flaming waste of time |
| [17:54:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [17:54:00] | Beirdo: | which reminds me |
| [17:54:00] | Fitzsimmons: | yeah, I finally got mythtv running on gentoo, but there's no doubt in my mind that it took way too fucking long :P |
| [17:54:00] | redline-: | lol |
| [17:54:00] | Beirdo: | I should see if my asterisk box needs much upgraded after the emerge --sync last nihgt |
| [17:55:00] | redline-: | i was able to bring up up a 64 bit gentoo box and myth in 2 hours |
| [17:55:00] | Fitzsimmons: | well sure |
| [17:55:00] | Fitzsimmons: | there's bringing it up |
| [17:55:00] | Fitzsimmons: | and then there's doing stuff |
| [17:55:00] | redline-: | however i had another 64 bit gentoo box already built and i rsync'ed the files |
| [17:55:00] | Fitzsimmons: | I can have a stage3 in about 30 minutes |
| [17:55:00] | Beirdo: | I was able to bring up FC1 and myth in about 1h |
| [17:55:00] | Fitzsimmons: | but you can't do shit with it |
| [17:56:00] | redline-: | well mine was fully funtional with xfce4 and ked 3.4 |
| [17:56:00] | redline-: | thanks to GreyFoxx turning me onto rsync i had no idea i could be that easy |
| [17:56:00] | Beirdo: | Total size of downloads: 121,134 kB |
| [17:56:00] | Beirdo: | eeek |
| [17:57:00] | Beirdo: | including an asterisk upgrade |
| [17:57:00] | Beirdo: | ouch |
| [17:57:00] | redline-: | afk, installing new PS I just got from newegg |
| [17:58:00] | redline-: | you run a phone system through gentoo Beirdo? |
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| [17:58:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, it's the only thing I use gentoo for |
| [17:58:00] | Beirdo: | so I can strictly control what extra crap is on there |
| [17:58:00] | redline-: | whats your main distro? |
| [17:58:00] | Beirdo: | ubuntu |
| [17:59:00] | Beirdo: | and before that, FC1 |
| [17:59:00] | Beirdo: | and many versions of Red Hat, then before that, Slackware :) |
| [17:59:00] | redline-: | i was a big turbolinux fan at one point |
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| [17:59:00] | Beirdo: | only been using Linux for... 11 years |
| [17:59:00] | redline-: | about the same here and still dont know shit |
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| [18:00:00] | redline-: | i dont rtfm thats my problem |
| [18:00:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [18:00:00] | Beirdo: | at least you ain't in denial |
| [18:00:00] | Led-Hed: | Beirdo: thats not saying much. I've been "using" linux for 7 but I'm still a n00b.. ;) |
| [18:00:00] | Beirdo: | for much the same reason, Led-Hed... |
| [18:00:00] | Beirdo: | the man pages are our friends :) |
| [18:01:00] | Beirdo: | and now, the stupid "info" pages |
| [18:01:00] | ** Beirdo shakes his fist at GNU for that abomination ** | |
| [18:01:00] | Led-Hed: | true, but hard to understand for the truely n00b |
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| [18:01:00] | Beirdo: | true |
| [18:01:00] | Beirdo: | I started in university around plenty of UNIX geeks |
| [18:01:00] | Beirdo: | and that was after a couple years of being a UNIX user at school |
| [18:02:00] | redline-: | that woulda been nice, ive going solo on this |
| [18:02:00] | Beirdo: | so I'd already learned much of the basics to using UNIX |
| [18:02:00] | Led-Hed: | I had a Sparc 5 that had a botched Solaris install, so I installed Linux on it instead.. |
| [18:02:00] | redline-: | wann buy some sun equipment? =p |
| [18:02:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [18:02:00] | Beirdo: | I have enough of that at work, thanks |
| [18:02:00] | Led-Hed: | though it never did anything useful.. |
| [18:02:00] | redline-: | i got about 15 sparc 4 5 10 20 and ultra 1 and 2 |
| [18:02:00] | ** Beirdo is a Solaris admin by day ** | |
| [18:03:00] | sri: | hi all |
| [18:03:00] | redline-: | <== Certified Solaris administrator |
| [18:03:00] | redline-: | on 7 =p |
| [18:03:00] | Beirdo: | certifications mean squat :) |
| [18:03:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [18:03:00] | sri: | thanks for the tip yesterday about downgrading the ivtv drivers to 0.4.0 from 0.4.1 that seemed to have fixed sound |
| [18:03:00] | Beirdo: | but cool :) |
| [18:03:00] | redline-: | well that just goes to show how long ago that was |
| [18:03:00] | Beirdo: | at least Sun certs mean more than MSCE :) |
| [18:03:00] | redline-: | hell yea |
| [18:03:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [18:03:00] | sri: | unfortunately, when I use a frontend on antoher machine I hear audio for like 2 seconds and then the thing freezes. |
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| [18:04:00] | redline-: | well i took mine when you actually had to study |
| [18:04:00] | Beirdo: | my fiancee's bugging me to take the exams |
| [18:04:00] | sri: | and on the backend it switches from live tv back to None |
| [18:04:00] | Beirdo: | (she's also a Solaris admin) |
| [18:04:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [18:04:00] | Cromz: | nice... nuvexport-vcd a 91 minute show ( no commericals ) in 37m 20s with 76.20 fps. w00ts, all while watching tv on it and messing with webmin. lol |
| [18:04:00] | sri: | the error in the frontend is that it timed otu waiting for ht encoder. |
| [18:04:00] | Beirdo: | Cromz: nice |
| [18:04:00] | redline-: | well now theres tesking.com and they have all the questions and answers |
| [18:04:00] | Beirdo: | well, my problem is they expect you to memorize crap that's in the manuals |
| [18:04:00] | Beirdo: | that's WHY we have manuals |
| [18:05:00] | Beirdo: | reference material |
| [18:05:00] | Cromz: | now if I can just figure out why it's not stable. lol random lockups. lol |
| [18:05:00] | Beirdo: | and I never use ufsdump |
| [18:05:00] | redline-: | i hate dealing with solaris fs |
| [18:05:00] | redline-: | or old school unix fs for that matter |
| [18:05:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:05:00] | Beirdo: | BRB |
| [18:06:00] | sri: | dum de dum dum |
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| [18:09:00] | poop: | dum diddy dum |
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| [18:09:00] | sri: | hehe |
| [18:10:00] | Camisa: | I'm having trouble configuring mythweb... I want to symlink /mnt/store to ./mythweb/video_dir/ and I am curious what you guys chmod your /mnt/store directory to for that purpose... and then I also can't seem to get .htaccess and .htpasswd to work for the mythweb directory... can anybody help? |
| [18:11:00] | Fitzsimmons: | I just give ownership of the videos directory to the mythtv user |
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| [18:11:00] | sri: | me too |
| [18:11:00] | Camisa: | Fitzsimmons: I gave ownership to the apache user. |
| [18:11:00] | sri: | although , I'm still trying to figure out why my friggin live tv hangs. |
| [18:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | why would the apache user own your myth recordings dir ? |
| [18:13:00] | Fitzsimmons: | Camisa: why would apache need access to the videos? |
| [18:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | well if you want to be able to download them through mythweb it would need "access" but it sure as heck doesn't need ownership |
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| [18:15:00] | Camisa: | Fitzsimmons: mythweb lets you download your recordings |
| [18:15:00] | Fitzsimmons: | ... |
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| [18:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | Camisa: That does not require the apache user to own it |
| [18:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | just to have read permissions |
| [18:15:00] | Fitzsimmons: | there's gotta be a better way of doing that |
| [18:16:00] | Camisa: | Actually, I have chris:apache owning the store directory. |
| [18:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | The storage directory and files should be owned by whoever runs mythbackend, and as long as apache can read the contents it don't need to haveany sort of ownership |
| [18:19:00] | Fitzsimmons: | I have a feeling that nuvexport is not using my commerical markings... =/ |
| [18:21:00] | Camisa: | GreyFoxx: so which groups does the mythbackend user need to belong to. |
| [18:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | Camisa: None/any |
| [18:21:00] | Fitzsimmons: | depending on the distro, probably cdrom, cdrw, audio, video |
| [18:22:00] | Camisa: | GreyFoxx: not even video? okay. |
| [18:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | well I suppose that would depend on the distro |
| [18:22:00] | Fitzsimmons: | check your permissions in /dev or the udev configuration file |
| [18:22:00] | Camisa: | GreyFoxx: gentoo |
| [18:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | the backend user would need to be able to access your video device |
| [18:24:00] | Kelerion: | guys – am currently setting up a seperate backend.. is async better than sync for nfs? |
| [18:24:00] | ** Kelerion figures it is ** | |
| [18:24:00] | Fitzsimmons: | probably |
| [18:24:00] | Kelerion: | okies – will go with that for now |
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| [18:25:00] | Kelerion: | it occurred to me today I had enough spare kit to set up a seperate backend – so giving it a go |
| [18:25:00] | Kelerion: | been running combined BE/FE for about 2 years |
| [18:26:00] | Kelerion: | hey Juski |
| [18:27:00] | Juski: | hey hey |
| [18:27:00] | Juski: | just had my keyboard to bits |
| [18:27:00] | Kelerion: | just been feeding tons of cables through a wall.. lol |
| [18:27:00] | Kelerion: | needed cleaning? |
| [18:27:00] | Juski: | yeah |
| [18:27:00] | Juski: | and drying out |
| [18:27:00] | Kelerion: | urgh.. nasty job |
| [18:27:00] | Juski: | got a lovely click action now though ;) |
| [18:27:00] | Kelerion: | I always realise how disgusting I am when I have to do that.. lol |
| [18:28:00] | Juski: | and while I was there I disabled that god awful sleep key |
| [18:28:00] | Kelerion: | doesn't help smoking over the keyboard though.. lol |
| [18:28:00] | Juski: | don't I know it |
| [18:28:00] | Juski: | ash, hair.. food... |
| [18:28:00] | Kelerion: | yup.. lol |
| [18:29:00] | Kelerion: | you don't drink coffee with 15 sugars in it do you? that gets nasty too.. lol |
| [18:29:00] | Juski: | no I'm already sweet enough :-P |
| [18:29:00] | Kelerion: | hey! thats my line! give it back! :P |
| [18:31:00] | Kelerion: | I remember as a punishment when I was 13 at school – was using bbc micro's and the teacher spilt coffee over it.. he made me strip it and clean it.. I swore I wouldn't allow coffee near my kb.. but hell.. that didn't last long |
| [18:31:00] | Juski: | heh. they should make kids use BBC micros _as_ punishments |
| [18:31:00] | ** Kelerion laughs ** | |
| [18:32:00] | Juski: | and yeah they can have a mobile phone, but it'll be so big it needs a trolley to cart it round on |
| [18:32:00] | docelmo: | ok 1 final question now that my remote is fixed.. How do I set the time on the guide? I have noticed its 5 hours off |
| [18:32:00] | Kelerion: | hey – am impressed with myself – I got lvm working on two 120gb drives under ubuntu – first time *ever* I've managed to get lvm working.. so they are now up and running in the backend :)) |
| [18:33:00] | Juski: | docelmo: usually a timezone issue |
| [18:33:00] | docelmo: | I know.. But when I download or do a mythfilldatabase it downloads in UTC not EST |
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| [18:33:00] | Juski: | I can't seem to get ubuntu to boot up with all the same screen res twice in a row |
| [18:33:00] | redline-: | Kel does LVM run ontop of an existing fs? |
| [18:33:00] | praet: | redline- yes it does |
| [18:33:00] | redline-: | ewww |
| [18:34:00] | Kelerion: | it does? I thought the fs ran *inside* the lvm |
| [18:34:00] | redline-: | im about to add another 250 gig drive to my box with xfs on it should I lvm or grow xfs? |
| [18:34:00] | Beirdo: | um |
| [18:34:00] | Juski: | I don't think it does mind |
| [18:34:00] | Beirdo: | the filesystem runs on TOP of LVM |
| [18:34:00] | Kelerion: | or fs ontop of lvm |
| [18:34:00] | Beirdo: | you add partitions and disks to the LVM |
| [18:34:00] | Kelerion: | yup |
| [18:35:00] | docelmo: | is there a way for me to change the timezone in MythTV? |
| [18:35:00] | Beirdo: | or RAID volumes |
| [18:35:00] | docelmo: | or does it use /etc/timezone? |
| [18:35:00] | Beirdo: | it uses the system's timezone AFAIK |
| [18:35:00] | Juski: | what's with umbongo not honouring my screen resolution choice anyway? first installed it I had everything to choose. now all I get is 640x480 |
| [18:35:00] | docelmo: | AFAIK? |
| [18:35:00] | Kelerion: | the source has an offset in mythsetup as well doesn't it? |
| [18:36:00] | Kelerion: | Juski.. updated card drivers? |
| [18:36:00] | Juski: | Kelerion: ahh yeh |
| [18:36:00] | Juski: | but what difference should that make? |
| [18:36:00] | Juski: | xorg.conf hasn't changed |
| [18:36:00] | Juski: | or rather.. I didnt change it |
| [18:36:00] | Kelerion: | oh.. thought it might have updated your xorg.conf |
| [18:36:00] | Beirdo: | docelmo: as far as I know |
| [18:36:00] | Kelerion: | check.. you know how *nice* ubuntu is for you :) |
| [18:37:00] | docelmo: | Kelerion, I dont know I remember initially it asking what timezone I was in |
| [18:37:00] | Juski: | Kelerion yeah.. so nice I feel like throwing it at a wall sometimes |
| [18:37:00] | redline-: | Beirdo: you use ubunto for your myth boxes? |
| [18:37:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [18:37:00] | Juski: | docelmo: you can set an offset in mythtv-setup |
| [18:37:00] | Beirdo: | FC1 |
| [18:37:00] | Kelerion: | umbongo? you been listening to lugradio? thats what they call it.. lol |
| [18:37:00] | praet: | redline- i am pretty sure you can grow xfs (are you using a logical volume?) |
| [18:37:00] | Beirdo: | I set it up years ago, and leave it the hell alone |
| [18:38:00] | Juski: | always called it umbongo.. seems I'm not the only one |
| [18:38:00] | praet: | Beirdo << fc1 here too |
| [18:38:00] | Juski: | I just needed a quick install distro to mess about with mythtv on |
| [18:38:00] | redline-: | praet I have a single disk setup now with xfs on it |
| [18:38:00] | Kelerion: | Juski.. you tried kubuntu yet? I haven't.. I prefer gnome.. but some people seem to like it |
| [18:38:00] | Beirdo: | redline-: I'd suggest creating an LVM on the new disk, transfer the data onto it |
| [18:38:00] | Beirdo: | then add the old disk to the LVM, then grow :) |
| [18:38:00] | Beirdo: | but that's just me :) |
| [18:39:00] | Juski: | this thing is making a fucking liar out of me. just booted in 1024x768. last 2 boots I got 640x480 or bust |
| [18:39:00] | Juski: | Kelerion: I'm not in the habit of trying distros for the hell of it |
| [18:39:00] | ** Kelerion chuckles ** | |
| [18:39:00] | praet: | redline- with lvm it is simple, without is still possible tho |
| [18:39:00] | Kelerion: | I am.. it's a failing of mine.. lol |
| [18:40:00] | redline-: | hmm disk im adding is ata and I wanted the sata to be primary disk |
| [18:40:00] | Juski: | I'm also not a religious fanatic of one thing over another thing |
| [18:40:00] | Beirdo: | there's no "primary" disk in LVM |
| [18:40:00] | Kelerion: | me either – I figure some things are better equipped to do a job than others |
| [18:40:00] | docelmo: | I dont see anywhere to configure the timezone in mythtv-setup |
| [18:40:00] | redline-: | but the system has to have a bootable disk though |
| [18:40:00] | kormoc: | docelmo, cause it's not there |
| [18:40:00] | Juski: | d'oh |
| [18:40:00] | Beirdo: | it just feeds out the extents as it gets to them |
| [18:41:00] | Beirdo: | ahh |
| [18:41:00] | kormoc: | docelmo, it uses the system default timezone |
| [18:41:00] | Juski: | it's in the frontend setup pages |
| [18:41:00] | Beirdo: | yes, you don't have to add the whole disk to the LVM, you can add a partition |
| [18:41:00] | Juski: | erm.. I think |
| [18:41:00] | Kelerion: | I admit I use a windows machine for development.. I just find I'm more productive with it.. but I use linux for my servers.. |
| [18:41:00] | docelmo: | I have the default set to EST but it still uses UTC when downloading the updates for the lineup |
| [18:42:00] | praet: | docelmo is the time and zone correct in the os? |
| [18:42:00] | kormoc: | docelmo, date in a terminal window shows the correct timezone and time? |
| [18:42:00] | docelmo: | yes, and yes |
| [18:42:00] | docelmo: | Thu Dec 29 13:42:43 EST 2005 |
| [18:42:00] | Juski: | I use microstuff on my desktop, then vnc into my boxen |
| [18:43:00] | Kelerion: | yup..same here.. or putty |
| [18:43:00] | Juski: | 13:42... that's way out.. it's 18:42 here |
| [18:43:00] | Juski: | ;-) |
| [18:43:00] | redline-: | man im gonna have to format all over again |
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| [18:44:00] | redline-: | grow fs requires you to delete the partition you want to grow before you can grow it |
| [18:44:00] | Juski: | now can someone tell me why, although my DVB card works, I have FOUR adapters listed in /dev/dvb ? |
| [18:44:00] | Juski: | notice I said _card_ |
| [18:44:00] | cs_yckad: | sorry, i want to ask some question about ivtv |
| [18:44:00] | praet: | redline- try this: tinyurl.com/c2kcl |
| [18:45:00] | docelmo: | Im EST.. sigh |
| [18:45:00] | cs_yckad: | I live in Hong Kong ,i want to know ivtv-tune -f , Can anyone know the answer |
| [18:45:00] | docelmo: | But when I run mythfilldatabase it says its downloading for UTC |
| [18:45:00] | poop: | I officially give up. Linux can do neither firewire reliably nor capture stereo sound from my sound card. |
| [18:45:00] | Juski: | poop: boo! |
| [18:46:00] | poop: | Now I have a rather expensive dvd player. |
| [18:46:00] | poop: | Assuming xine manages to do anything. |
| [18:46:00] | Juski: | is linux about to lose another half-hearted user? |
| [18:46:00] | Arkkis: | hey, I've been able to get other things to work, but I'm still having problems getting sound out from my hauppauge tv card |
| [18:46:00] | poop: | Juski: I've been using linux since 1994. |
| [18:46:00] | splAt1 is now known as splat1 | |
| [18:47:00] | Juski: | poop: try getting windows to grab firewire from your STB |
| [18:47:00] | poop: | Juski: And I've _pored_ hours into getting this software working. |
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| [18:47:00] | poop: | Juski: MacOS does it trivially. |
| [18:47:00] | Juski: | so does Linux, according to lots of people |
| [18:48:00] | poop: | I'd settle for analog capture right now, but alsa doesn't work correctly. |
| [18:48:00] | YippMn: | anyone here have experience setting up mythtv in gentoo? |
| [18:48:00] | Beirdo: | poop: if it doesn't like your card, get a different card |
| [18:48:00] | poop: | Juski: Maybe the _3_ firewire cards are all just no good. |
| [18:48:00] | Beirdo: | or use OSS drivers |
| [18:48:00] | poop: | yeah .. maybe |
| [18:48:00] | Juski: | YippMn: yep |
| [18:48:00] | poop: | Beirdo: OSS doesn't support this card |
| [18:48:00] | Kelerion: | Juski: I don't use dvb.. but could you have different devices for video/audio/demux etc? |
| [18:48:00] | Beirdo: | then get a different card if ALSA doesn't like it, and OSS doens't support it |
| [18:48:00] | Juski: | what card? bet it's some soundblaster thing |
| [18:49:00] | poop: | My sound is on-board (and has to be) |
| [18:49:00] | Beirdo: | I'm betting Audigy |
| [18:49:00] | Juski: | ah |
| [18:49:00] | redline-: | Praet: that was the site i just read about growing the fs |
| [18:49:00] | Beirdo: | really? |
| [18:49:00] | jalex: | hehe, I haven't had any problems with linux and sound. |
| [18:49:00] | Beirdo: | which one? |
| [18:49:00] | praet: | cs_yckad ivtv-tune -f set the tuner to that frequency ie: ivtv-tune -f 720 |
| [18:49:00] | jalex: | midi is painful, but otherwise, piece of cake |
| [18:49:00] | Juski: | Kelerion: like I said it works, but I'm just puzzled |
| [18:49:00] | Kelerion: | I'm just guessing.. lol |
| [18:49:00] | poop: | via vt8237 |
| [18:49:00] | YippMn: | Juski, ive emerged mythtv, mysql ,lame and qt , when i do mythtv-setup it says it can't find the databse and just shows a few setup things |
| [18:49:00] | cs_yckad: | praet thx |
| [18:50:00] | Juski: | YippMn: you've missed the database setup steps |
| [18:50:00] | Beirdo: | hmm |
| [18:50:00] | praet: | redline- the trick that post uses does not delete the data (but i would backup anyways) |
| [18:50:00] | Beirdo: | I'm not a fan of anything VIA |
| [18:50:00] | cs_yckad: | praet but -taustralis in the ivtv example but no hong kong |
| [18:50:00] | Beirdo: | but it SHOULD work, I'd think |
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| [18:50:00] | poop: | Beirdo: OSS just produces annoying noise, even when using a 48k sample rate (the hardware default) |
| [18:51:00] | docelmo: | is there a configfile somewhere for mythfilldatabase? |
| [18:51:00] | Beirdo: | how odd |
| [18:51:00] | docelmo: | cause its not working.. :( |
| [18:51:00] | Juski: | docelmo: mythfilldatabase gets its stuff from the database |
| [18:51:00] | poop: | There's a _lot_ of variation in this line of audio chipset. |
| [18:51:00] | docelmo: | ohh time to go play with mysql.. |
| [18:51:00] | ** Beirdo pats his nForce2 chipset ** | |
| [18:51:00] | Juski: | poop: I've got a working 8237 chipset on my system – don't think I've ever tried recording audio though |
| [18:51:00] | Beirdo: | good motherboard |
| [18:51:00] | YippMn: | Juski, as in doing , mythtv < /user/share/mythtv/database/mc.sql? |
| [18:52:00] | Juski: | YippMn: that'll be the one |
| [18:52:00] | Juski: | or more like mysql < /user/share... |
| [18:52:00] | poop: | Beirdo: It wasn't my first choice, but I needed microATX with firewire and on-board video. |
| [18:52:00] | YippMn: | Juski, akk make that mysql not mythtv |
| [18:52:00] | Juski: | YippMn: then if your config files are right it _should_ work |
| [18:53:00] | praet: | cs_yckad ivtv-tune -L to see the avail freq mappings |
| [18:53:00] | Beirdo: | why do you need onboard video? |
| [18:53:00] | praet: | cs_yckad see here for more help : http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Ivtv-tune |
| [18:54:00] | YippMn: | Juski, well that doen't seem to work it tells me ;ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) |
| [18:54:00] | Juski: | YippMn: then you need to be running Mysql & have it configured correctly |
| [18:54:00] | poop: | Beirdo: I planned on not having a video card, since there were supposedly linux drivers for the unichrome chipset. |
| [18:54:00] | YippMn: | Juski, is there somthing else i missed? |
| [18:54:00] | cs_yckad: | praet, why i dont have ptune-ui, is it need to download indivial? |
| [18:54:00] | poop: | It's all about low-heat, low-noise. |
| [18:54:00] | Beirdo: | ah |
| [18:54:00] | YippMn: | Juski, hmm maybe i didn't get mysql setup right |
| [18:55:00] | Juski: | YippMn: try this guide: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_MythTV |
| [18:55:00] | poop: | unichrome pro I came to found out, didn't work so well (at all) in linux |
| [18:55:00] | praet: | cs_yckad ptune-ui is a perl script that has been depreciated for ivtv-tune (it does the same thing) |
| [18:55:00] | poop: | Still, the FX5200 is nice. |
| [18:56:00] | YippMn: | Juski, i did ;mysql_install_db |
| [18:57:00] | Kelerion: | I thought mysql_install_db installed mysql's core tables for permissions etc |
| [18:58:00] | praet: | YippMn can you log into the myth database : $ mysql -u mythtv -p mythconverg |
| [18:58:00] | YippMn: | Kelerion, yup thats what it says |
| [18:58:00] | Kelerion: | ahh okies.. thought I was getting daft in my old age |
| [18:59:00] | YippMn: | guess i need to get mysql setup and the how-to ive been useing isn't gentoo only |
| [18:59:00] | cs_yckad: | praet , i am newible video on linux, is that ivtv is a tv card driver, mythtv is the program to record tv? |
| [19:00:00] | Juski: | what a bugger... you do a google & only find your own postings :-/ |
| [19:00:00] | ** Kelerion laughs ** | |
| [19:01:00] | Juski: | according to the svn version of mythtv, the linux driver for my card is erm.. borked |
| [19:02:00] | Kelerion: | what card are you using? |
| [19:02:00] | Juski: | I dunno where that comes from, coz it seems to work |
| [19:02:00] | Juski: | LR6650 |
| [19:02:00] | Juski: | takes a second or 2 to get a lock but it works |
| [19:03:00] | Kelerion: | I really need to look into dvb.. but I am addicted to sky.. lol |
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| [19:03:00] | Juski: | how does umbongo create the /dev/ tree anyway? udev? or is it hot/coldplug? |
| [19:03:00] | PoeticIntensity: | Hello all.... |
| [19:03:00] | Kelerion: | I don't think it's udev |
| [19:03:00] | PoeticIntensity: | I've recently run into a problem I'm having a hard time solving. |
| [19:03:00] | Beirdo: | Juski: install it and find out |
| [19:04:00] | Juski: | Beirdo: I have it installed |
| [19:04:00] | Kelerion: | so neener.. lol |
| [19:04:00] | PoeticIntensity: | I'm running Gentoo, and was using MythTV 18.1 just fine yesterday. |
| [19:04:00] | praet: | cs_yckad what distro are you running |
| [19:04:00] | PoeticIntensity: | today I got up, did some adjustments to my /etc/hostname and /etc/conf.d/domainname files |
| [19:04:00] | PoeticIntensity: | and when I load up mythtv now, it thinks my card is being used for recording when in reality, it is not. |
| [19:05:00] | PoeticIntensity: | can anyone think of why it would be doing that? |
| [19:05:00] | Kelerion: | PoeticIntensity.. seperate FE/BE? |
| [19:05:00] | PoeticIntensity: | yeah |
| [19:05:00] | PoeticIntensity: | mythbackend and mythfrontend |
| [19:05:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, 1. Hello. 2. Yes, udev. 3. Did you build a VGA -> Scart convertor? 4. If you did, giz a look at your modelines. |
| [19:05:00] | docelmo: | Anyone got a sec for one-one chat about time? This is driving me nuts.. |
| [19:05:00] | docelmo: | Retrieving datadirect data... |
| [19:05:00] | docelmo: | Grabbing data for Thu Dec 29 2005 offset 1 |
| [19:05:00] | docelmo: | From : Fri Dec 30 05:00:00 2005 To : Sat Dec 31 05:00:00 2005 (UTC) |
| [19:05:00] | Juski: | PoeticIntensity: use IP addresses instead of hostnames.. may as well, and they'll always be right ;) |
| [19:05:00] | Kelerion: | PoeticIntensity.. the mythtvdb stores your details against your hostname |
| [19:05:00] | docelmo: | Thats what I am getting |
| [19:06:00] | PoeticIntensity: | hmmm..... |
| [19:06:00] | docelmo: | It keeps showing up UTC |
| [19:06:00] | Juski: | thanks _willcooke_.. I built one but never got it working – I dunno if the TV I was testing on has an rgb input though |
| [19:06:00] | PoeticIntensity: | Kelerion: How do I go about changing that? |
| [19:06:00] | praet: | cs_yckad the ivtv driver is a capture card driver |
| [19:06:00] | PoeticIntensity: | and what details does it store? |
| [19:06:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, I built one at lunch, piece of piss, and MAN that is a nice image! |
| [19:07:00] | Kelerion: | PoeticIntensity.. do a search and replace on the db.. and year (others!) I know this is bad advice.. lol |
| [19:07:00] | PoeticIntensity: | Oh.... The card I'm using is the PVR-250 |
| [19:07:00] | praet: | PoeticIntensity does it work fine if you adjust yuour hostname back to what it was when you installed mythtv? |
| [19:07:00] | Kelerion: | year-yeah |
| [19:07:00] | PoeticIntensity: | praet: I'm not sure... I haven't tried |
| [19:07:00] | PoeticIntensity: | Do ya'll think that is a problem? |
| [19:07:00] | docelmo: | please? :) |
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| [19:07:00] | praet: | PoeticIntensity: yes mythtv uses the hostname everywhere in the db |
| [19:08:00] | PoeticIntensity: | I see... |
| [19:08:00] | PoeticIntensity: | hmm...... |
| [19:08:00] | PoeticIntensity: | lemme give it a try... |
| [19:08:00] | PoeticIntensity: | brb |
| [19:08:00] | praet: | PoeticIntensity: see http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-23.html#ss23.15 |
| [19:08:00] | ** _willcooke_ goes to eat dinner ** | |
| [19:08:00] | Kelerion: | PoeticIntensity.. do a search and replace on the db and replace your old hostname with your current ip.. and backup first |
| [19:09:00] | docelmo: | Kelerion, I found the Timezone setting in the DB but well didnt do much for me.. Is there a command of some sort I can run to confure this without going directly into the dB? |
| [19:11:00] | PoeticIntensity: | praet: Thanks for the URL. |
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| [19:11:00] | PoeticIntensity: | Guess I should have done some homework before I went and changed the hostname. |
| [19:11:00] | docelmo: | nevermind.. magically started working |
| [19:12:00] | praet: | PoeticIntensity ive done it and its no big deal.. just make sure that your search and replace is right (especially if you are removing . from the hostname) |
| [19:12:00] | PoeticIntensity: | praet: will do |
| [19:12:00] | PoeticIntensity: | thanks. |
| [19:12:00] | Kelerion: | or – in phpmyadmin.. run a sql command like "UPDATE tablename SET fieldname=REPLACE(fieldname, 'oldstring', 'newstring');" |
| [19:13:00] | praet: | btw: mythweb will not save config (like keymappings) changes to the backend if the hostname has a "." in it |
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| [19:13:00] | Juski: | docelmo: you can try putting an offset for the guide time in mythtv-setup.. 'time offset for xmltv listings'.. it's on the 'general' page |
| [19:14:00] | docelmo: | I think I got it. Its working now and I didnt do much to it.. |
| [19:15:00] | PoeticIntensity: | praet , Kelerion that was the problem... it's working fine now. |
| [19:15:00] | PoeticIntensity: | thanks, guys. |
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| [19:16:00] | Juski: | now let that be a lesson to everybody.. if it ain't broke... ;-) |
| [19:16:00] | ** Kelerion chuckles ** | |
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| [19:18:00] | Juski: | oh and now I've found that the dvb mailing list archive is mostly borked, and isn't searchable anyway |
| [19:18:00] | Juski: | bahhhh |
| [19:18:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | I don't want my mythtv to record anything right now, but I want mythbackend to run so I can see the shows it already has recorded. I also don't want to delete all of my recording schedules because I want to re-enable them later.. is there a feature where I can disable new recordings and re-enable them later? |
| [19:19:00] | Beirdo: | just don't fill the database with new show info |
| [19:19:00] | Beirdo: | it'll stop recording real soon |
| [19:20:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | true, but I already have about 2 weeks worth of stuff already downloaded |
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| [19:25:00] | ** mocker_ orders some RAM to get his system up to 512M. ** | |
| [19:25:00] | mocker_: | :) |
| [19:26:00] | Beirdo: | JoeyJoeJo: you could just run the setup and tell it to wipe the data |
| [19:26:00] | Beirdo: | and not re-run the fill |
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| [19:28:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | Beirdo: thats what I was thinking too |
| [19:28:00] | Beirdo: | then once you want the data again, just start running the fill again. You might have to tweak the setup again, dunno |
| [19:28:00] | Beirdo: | oh, and restart the backend after running setup |
| [19:30:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | ok, I'll give it a shot |
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| [19:33:00] | riksta: | Juski, :) |
| [19:36:00] | Juski: | cheers very muchly, riksta :) |
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| [19:37:00] | Juski: | I'll understand all this udev business one day I'm sure |
| [19:37:00] | _willcooke_: | ARGH! I've broken xv! WTF. It's just stopped working. |
| [19:37:00] | _willcooke_: | I was watching telly last night, come to watch it today, broken. |
| [19:38:00] | Beirdo: | so what changed between? |
| [19:38:00] | _willcooke_: | nada! |
| [19:38:00] | Beirdo: | I'd strongly doubt that |
| [19:38:00] | _willcooke_: | Oh, hold on, except me playing with xvidtune. But that's not persistant is it, I've rebooted. |
| [19:38:00] | riksta: | Beirdo, !! |
| [19:38:00] | Beirdo: | whether *you* changed it or not, something changed |
| [19:38:00] | _willcooke_: | :) |
| [19:39:00] | Beirdo: | heya, riksta |
| [19:39:00] | riksta: | Beirdo, had lots of malt this christmas? :) |
| [19:39:00] | Beirdo: | nah |
| [19:39:00] | Beirdo: | I need to get pissed |
| [19:39:00] | riksta: | ohh T-total ? haha |
| [19:39:00] | Beirdo: | I haven't had a drink since... October? |
| [19:39:00] | Beirdo: | oh wait |
| [19:39:00] | Beirdo: | not true |
| [19:39:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:39:00] | riksta: | ;) |
| [19:39:00] | riksta: | how was xmas |
| [19:39:00] | Beirdo: | we went out on a company event, I drank there |
| [19:40:00] | Beirdo: | nice and uneventful |
| [19:40:00] | riksta: | fair enuff :P |
| [19:40:00] | ** Beirdo misses his fiancee... distance can SUCK ** | |
| [19:40:00] | riksta: | you tart :) |
| [19:41:00] | Beirdo: | ? |
| [19:41:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:41:00] | Beirdo: | just under 5 months of single life left. |
| [19:41:00] | riksta: | poor bastard |
| [19:42:00] | Juski: | and then.. it's _all_ over ;-) (single life, that is) |
| [19:42:00] | Beirdo: | ummm, I won't miss it at all |
| [19:42:00] | riksta: | yeah, but you aren't a pimp like the riksta ;) |
| [19:42:00] | Beirdo: | I *want* to settle down |
| [19:42:00] | Juski: | fair play to anyone who can make the long distance thing work |
| [19:42:00] | Juski: | I couldn't, so I had her move down here |
| [19:42:00] | Beirdo: | I'm not off chasing skirt at the pub like the riksta |
| [19:42:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:42:00] | riksta: | i'm still at uni, it's a crime to be hooked up :) |
| [19:42:00] | Beirdo: | ahh |
| [19:43:00] | Beirdo: | well, she's in the Caribbean |
| [19:43:00] | Beirdo: | *I* am planning on moving |
| [19:43:00] | Beirdo: | screw that, I don't want to move her to the frigging cold |
| [19:43:00] | Beirdo: | but yes, distance can suck at times |
| [19:44:00] | Juski: | why the hell does my wife want to record 'tomb raider' ffs? even radiotimes only gave it half a star.. ack |
| [19:44:00] | riksta: | my ex is on a cruise ship in the caribbean, she was a ballet dancer...couldnt do the long distance...so back single ...the best way for me :) |
| [19:44:00] | Beirdo: | Juski: just record it and ogle the boobies |
| [19:44:00] | riksta: | Juski, haha! |
| [19:44:00] | Juski: | watched 'in her shoes' kinda grudgingly last night.. but wait a sec.. :-D |
| [19:44:00] | riksta: | better than "jamies school dinners" AGAIN |
| [19:44:00] | Beirdo: | and you are safe as it is HER recording |
| [19:45:00] | Beirdo: | anyways... |
| [19:45:00] | Juski: | sod commercial detection.. how about 'lots of fleshtone' detection? ;) |
| [19:45:00] | riksta: | Juski, comm flagging doesnt work over here |
| [19:45:00] | riksta: | (very well) |
| [19:45:00] | Beirdo: | nipple detection? |
| [19:45:00] | Juski: | aye |
| [19:46:00] | redline-: | glad i picked up this gigbit switch, im copying my root from my myth server to a dir on another box so that i can create the lvm and im transfering all my videos from my old myth to another box |
| [19:46:00] | Juski: | like v-chip in reverse |
| [19:46:00] | redline-: | so i can use that HD |
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| [19:46:00] | Beirdo: | have an automatic "extract naughty bits" task |
| [19:46:00] | Beirdo: | that could be cool |
| [19:46:00] | riksta: | hey levon |
| [19:46:00] | riksta: | yeah use some algo that looks for bare flesh colour |
| [19:46:00] | levon: | hiya riksta |
| [19:47:00] | Juski: | riksta: I know... for it to work better we'd need to demux the stream first I think |
| [19:47:00] | Juski: | damn DVB-T & its extra packets |
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| [19:47:00] | riksta: | Juski, nah it's not that |
| [19:47:00] | Beirdo: | redline-: data moving is always so much fun :) |
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| [19:48:00] | Juski: | so what is it then riksta? the fact that british shows have lots of arty fades? |
| [19:48:00] | Juski: | and they like never remove logos from channels |
| [19:48:00] | riksta: | it's a complicted mixture of things |
| [19:49:00] | Beirdo: | farty fades? |
| [19:49:00] | Juski: | has anyone ever looked deep into the stream to see if there's any kind of extra flags sent when the ads are on? sounds too obvious to have been missed though |
| [19:50:00] | Juski: | you know.. like there's sometimes that cross-hatched box appears in a corner extremity (like in the old days) |
| [19:50:00] | riksta: | there aren't any signals |
| [19:51:00] | riksta: | but yes it looks for the b&w box |
| [19:51:00] | levon: | Juski, there is no such thing. There may be a in the aspect ratio or the resolution (which is indicated by program information elements) but I don't think they send this info during a show. |
| [19:51:00] | riksta: | levon, yep |
| [19:51:00] | levon: | s/there may be a/there may be a change/ |
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| [19:51:00] | riksta: | aspect ration change and blanks are probably the only ones that work decent |
| [19:51:00] | riksta: | here |
| [19:51:00] | ** levon agrees ** | |
| [19:51:00] | Juski: | I notice that E4 & more4 change aspect for the ads.. but only when the programme is 4:3 |
| [19:52:00] | riksta: | i can't type for shit on this laptop |
| [19:52:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [19:53:00] | Beirdo: | I have that problem on some keyboards too |
| [19:53:00] | riksta: | Beirdo, you mean all ;) |
| [19:53:00] | Beirdo: | uck-fay ou-yay! :) |
| [19:53:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:53:00] | Beirdo: | nah, only some |
| [19:53:00] | Beirdo: | as I use laptops all day, I'm kinda used to the Thinkpad kybrd :) |
| [19:54:00] | riksta: | i detest laptop keyboards and touchpad |
| [19:54:00] | riksta: | s |
| [19:54:00] | Beirdo: | I don't use the touchpad |
| [19:54:00] | riksta: | im getting used to my vaio |
| [19:54:00] | Beirdo: | I use the clit-mouse |
| [19:54:00] | Juski: | I read that the beeb are starting to use some kind of PDC on their DVB transmissions (maybe).. program start flagging of some sort |
| [19:54:00] | riksta: | i use a tiny little google mouse they sent me for christmas |
| [19:54:00] | riksta: | Juski, news for you, they don't have commercials :P |
| [19:54:00] | riksta: | oh pdc |
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| [19:55:00] | riksta: | theres no need for that with dvb |
| [19:55:00] | FunkyELF: | hey guys, anyone here have an iPod and use myth2ipod ? |
| [19:55:00] | riksta: | they guide data is updated over the air (supposedly) |
| [19:55:00] | Beirdo: | I have an ipod |
| [19:55:00] | Beirdo: | never used myth2ipod |
| [19:55:00] | FunkyELF: | ...well, I mean anyone have the new video iPod |
| [19:55:00] | Beirdo: | as I have no need for it, my ipod is for audio :) |
| [19:55:00] | riksta: | can a nano play video |
| [19:55:00] | FunkyELF: | riksta, no |
| [19:56:00] | Juski: | riskta: yeh but there was a discussion on the dev mailing list a while back (dunno what happenned to it – i.e. which direction it went) about using that stuff to start recordings bang on transmission time |
| [19:56:00] | Beirdo: | riksta: any idea how to make mplayer feed icecast? |
| [19:56:00] | riksta: | Juski, it already tries to |
| [19:56:00] | FunkyELF: | can someone help me with these userjob things? |
| [19:57:00] | riksta: | Beirdo, actually, no! |
| [19:57:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:57:00] | FunkyELF: | basically, to set up myth2ipod you're supposed to add it as a user job, but now I'm not sure how to enable it or where to get to it |
| [19:57:00] | FunkyELF: | I'm not sure how user jobs work because I've never done one before |
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| [19:57:00] | riksta: | FunkyELF, it's in the frontend setup |
| [19:57:00] | Beirdo: | I wanna use the BBC radio feeds (in realaudio) and rebroadcast within my apt in MP3 (for use with asterisk) |
| [19:57:00] | Beirdo: | so I'm a geek |
| [19:58:00] | riksta: | ah right |
| [19:58:00] | riksta: | hmm you could rip the stream and pipe it somehow? |
| [19:58:00] | FunkyELF: | riksta, in mythsetup I added the job and the description. But I couldn't find it in the frontend maze of setup screens |
| [19:58:00] | Beirdo: | but without using line-out/line-in, I'm not sure how to do it |
| [19:58:00] | riksta: | if you can convert it right you can pipe the raw data |
| [19:58:00] | Beirdo: | that's what I'm hoping |
| [19:58:00] | riksta: | i read it on the list |
| [19:58:00] | riksta: | use sox? |
| [19:58:00] | Beirdo: | but the problem is... |
| [19:58:00] | Juski: | riksta: okay.. I might switch over to use EIT data one of these days then.. or can you do _both_ (i.e. use uk_rt and EIT) ? |
| [19:58:00] | Beirdo: | my asterisk box runs gentoo |
| [19:58:00] | riksta: | Beirdo, mine too |
| [19:58:00] | Beirdo: | and they borked realaudio support in mplayer |
| [19:59:00] | Umaro: | hey guys. This is a little bit off topic, but does anyone here have an ice1724 7.1 sound card? trying to get mine working with mythtv |
| [19:59:00] | riksta: | they did? it works here |
| [19:59:00] | Beirdo: | it insisited on installing X |
| [19:59:00] | riksta: | do you have the REAL use flag in package.use ? |
| [19:59:00] | Beirdo: | I had it |
| [19:59:00] | riksta: | add -qt -kde -X etc into USE in make.conf |
| [19:59:00] | Beirdo: | but that pulled in realplayer |
| [19:59:00] | Beirdo: | and that pulled in X |
| [19:59:00] | Beirdo: | even WITH -X |
| [19:59:00] | riksta: | hmm yeah |
| [19:59:00] | riksta: | i see what you mean |
| [20:00:00] | riksta: | hold on let me think |
| [20:00:00] | Beirdo: | and I will NOT install X on my asterisk box |
| [20:00:00] | poop: | not even libraries? |
| [20:00:00] | riksta: | you dont always have to, you can install the libs |
| [20:00:00] | riksta: | minimal x |
| [20:00:00] | Beirdo: | trust me, it went to install the server |
| [20:00:00] | riksta: | no no |
| [20:00:00] | riksta: | you an install minimal |
| [20:01:00] | riksta: | emerge xorg-x11 with minimal in the use flags |
| [20:01:00] | riksta: | i had to do that on my asterisk box |
| [20:02:00] | riksta: | because i use fisheye, which is a java app that needed some X libs to create the graphs/charts of cvs usage |
| [20:02:00] | riksta: | Beirdo, why not try to emerge them with --nodeps |
| [20:03:00] | Beirdo: | I considered that |
| [20:03:00] | riksta: | because realplayer is a bin |
| [20:03:00] | riksta: | i would try it |
| [20:03:00] | riksta: | i bet it works |
| [20:03:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | does anyone know where I can download the ppv.pl script that downloads listings for pay per view channels? |
| [20:03:00] | riksta: | yes |
| [20:03:00] | riksta: | |
| [20:04:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | tried it |
| [20:04:00] | riksta: | lists? |
| [20:04:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | I found a link, but it was dead |
| [20:04:00] | riksta: | ah ok sorry dunno then |
| [20:05:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, I might try that again, riksta |
| [20:06:00] | riksta: | let me know |
| [20:06:00] | Beirdo: | http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Rip_Streams_With_MPlayer |
| [20:06:00] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [20:06:00] | Beirdo: | there is an alternative |
| [20:06:00] | riksta: | i thought ud have been there |
| [20:06:00] | riksta: | i was going to suggest it |
| [20:06:00] | Beirdo: | OK, I know what to try next |
| [20:06:00] | Beirdo: | it wasn't there last time I looked |
| [20:06:00] | riksta: | i've read it before |
| [20:06:00] | riksta: | few months bk |
| [20:07:00] | Beirdo: | last time I tried was... about 6 months back |
| [20:07:00] | _willcooke_: | xv is fixed! Wanna know what I did to fix it?!? |
| [20:07:00] | Beirdo: | been busy |
| [20:07:00] | riksta: | Beirdo, do you know how to adjust the brightness on xv, mine seems way too bright compared to X11 and opengl |
| [20:07:00] | _willcooke_: | Well, I'll tell you anyway... nothing! |
| [20:07:00] | Beirdo: | I think you hit f |
| [20:08:00] | Beirdo: | during playback |
| [20:08:00] | riksta: | Beirdo, in general, not myth |
| [20:08:00] | Beirdo: | oh, no |
| [20:08:00] | Beirdo: | but I'm sure there's a way |
| [20:08:00] | riksta: | "XV_BRIGHTNESS" (range -128 to 127) |
| [20:08:00] | riksta: | client settable attribute |
| [20:08:00] | riksta: | client gettable attribute (current value is 0) |
| [20:08:00] | _willcooke_: | I think perhaps something was stuck with xv open |
| [20:08:00] | riksta: | i guess that would be it :) |
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| [20:09:00] | foobum: | is anyone using the remote wonder with an OS X frontend? |
| [20:10:00] | riksta: | foobum, nope just linux |
| [20:10:00] | foobum: | hmm.. it's probably quite different – i guess you use lirc on linux? |
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| [20:14:00] | Arkkis: | I need help with getting audio out from my hauppauge, I've been trying everything I can think of to get any sound out from the tuner |
| [20:16:00] | riksta: | i really want to set up pluto home soon |
| [20:16:00] | Arkkis: | uhh, the dog of mickey mouse? |
| [20:16:00] | Arkkis: | or the planet? |
| [20:17:00] | Beirdo: | or the jackasses that spammed every myth-related mailing list, forum and blog? |
| [20:17:00] | Juski: | ugh.. does anyone actually like that outfit? |
| [20:17:00] | Juski: | they've not delivered on one single promise they made |
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| [20:18:00] | Juski: | saying that, nor have I.. I said this wide theme would be ready 'soon' |
| [20:20:00] | willcooke_laptop: | Does anyone else get a sort of jittery video? I notice it most on slow pans, things seem to speed up and slow down a bit |
| [20:20:00] | riksta: | no i just like the ideas they show |
| [20:20:00] | riksta: | i'd do it myself |
| [20:20:00] | riksta: | i need a big house 1st |
| [20:20:00] | riksta: | :) |
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| [20:21:00] | praet: | Arkkis: you arent getting any audio _in_ from the tuner? |
| [20:21:00] | ** Beirdo emerges mplayer ** | |
| [20:21:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:21:00] | Beirdo: | screw it. |
| [20:21:00] | Beirdo: | I don't wanna work anyways |
| [20:22:00] | Juski: | riskta: you can do some pretty cool stuff with HA kit.. though I'd sooner use DMX than X10 |
| [20:22:00] | riksta: | HA is home automation? |
| [20:23:00] | Juski: | yeh |
| [20:23:00] | riksta: | i already have some follow me stuff implemented for asterisk |
| [20:23:00] | riksta: | with bluetooth |
| [20:23:00] | riksta: | Beirdo, did you see that? http://adm.hamnett.org |
| [20:23:00] | Beirdo: | ah cool |
| [20:23:00] | Juski: | when I've got this damn dbox working in this room I'll be doing some whole house audio stuff |
| [20:24:00] | riksta: | it needs more work, but i'll do a follow me around my house plugin |
| [20:24:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [20:24:00] | Arkkis: | praet, no, I plugged my headphones directly in there and nothing |
| [20:24:00] | Beirdo: | I don't use bluetooth currently, but that is kinda cool |
| [20:24:00] | Juski: | don't be like that nutter who got himself chipped though ;-) |
| [20:24:00] | Arkkis: | picture is clear as anything, but no audio out from the card (and I think it's the model that uses external 3.5mm jack to deliver the audio) |
| [20:25:00] | Arkkis: | I can use mic, and mp3 with the system otherwise, and the card works wonders with the image, but no audio from it :( |
| [20:25:00] | Juski: | Arkkis: maybe you've got the wrong tuner set when the module loads.. autodetect doesn't always work |
| [20:25:00] | Arkkis: | hmm |
| [20:25:00] | Beirdo: | ccache is a godsend :) |
| [20:26:00] | Arkkis: | then I'll have to check more at the module department, bttv should load the sound too, right? |
| [20:26:00] | riksta: | Beirdo, yea :) |
| [20:26:00] | riksta: | and a hdd rape |
| [20:26:00] | Beirdo: | better than taking 10 years to compile on my Celeron 566 box |
| [20:26:00] | riksta: | Arkkis, did you set the mixer input to "capture" |
| [20:26:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:27:00] | Beirdo: | too bad distcc is useless to me |
| [20:27:00] | riksta: | my god thats a crap box |
| [20:27:00] | Juski: | Arkkis: unless your card has an audio codec on it, you'll need to plug it into your soundcard |
| [20:27:00] | riksta: | distcc is the daddy |
| [20:27:00] | Beirdo: | half my machines are AMD64 |
| [20:27:00] | Beirdo: | different platforms make HELL for successful distcc |
| [20:27:00] | riksta: | Beirdo, that doesnt matter does it? |
| [20:27:00] | riksta: | im sure you can cross compile |
| [20:27:00] | Beirdo: | yes, it does |
| [20:27:00] | riksta: | just as long as all distcc are same major and monr version |
| [20:27:00] | Beirdo: | you HAVE to cross-compile |
| [20:27:00] | riksta: | minor* |
| [20:27:00] | Juski: | is 64-bit worth the hassle yet? seen a lot of horror stories about getting myth working on that |
| [20:28:00] | Beirdo: | and they aren't |
| [20:28:00] | riksta: | god i wont touch 64bit yet |
| [20:28:00] | Arkkis: | Juski, umm, but should'nt I still get some sound out if I use phones directly in it? |
| [20:28:00] | Beirdo: | my machines have all different versions of stuff |
| [20:28:00] | Beirdo: | and the 64-bit ubuntu is nice and solid |
| [20:28:00] | praet: | Arkkis see your pm |
| [20:28:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [20:28:00] | Beirdo: | so far |
| [20:28:00] | Juski: | Arkkis: maybe it doesn't have enough oomph to drive phones |
| [20:28:00] | riksta: | Beirdo, untill you try to install something there is no package for ;) |
| [20:28:00] | Juski: | try some amplified speakers or something |
| [20:28:00] | FunkyELF: | where is the allow user job 1 setting? |
| [20:28:00] | Beirdo: | only thing so far is transcode |
| [20:28:00] | riksta: | Juski, nah |
| [20:28:00] | Beirdo: | and I don't care |
| [20:29:00] | riksta: | i do |
| [20:29:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:29:00] | Beirdo: | I use ffmpeg for transcoding anyways |
| [20:29:00] | Arkkis: | praet, yep |
| [20:29:00] | Beirdo: | OK, lets see if this works |
| [20:29:00] | riksta: | me too really ;) |
| [20:29:00] | riksta: | mencoder and ffmpeg |
| [20:29:00] | Arkkis: | Juski, hmm |
| [20:29:00] | riksta: | and then dvdauthor |
| [20:29:00] | Juski: | Arkkis: if the tuner type is wrong and/or the video standard it has set are wrong, you won't get any sound.. tuners tend to mute it so you don't get that "schhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh" in your speakers ;) |
| [20:30:00] | FunkyELF: | I have a job that is just queued up and never runs. I looked on a forum and someone else had the same issue and they said once they enabled "allow user job #1" it worked |
| [20:30:00] | Beirdo: | racook realaud working RealAudio COOK [cook.so.6.0] |
| [20:30:00] | Beirdo: | WOOHOO! |
| [20:30:00] | riksta: | ;) |
| [20:30:00] | riksta: | geek ;) |
| [20:30:00] | Beirdo: | using the overlaid ebuild technique using w32codecs |
| [20:30:00] | riksta: | why use an overlay? |
| [20:30:00] | riksta: | it works anyway |
| [20:31:00] | Juski: | anyone here ever made a very small embedded server? I'm thinking mini or nano itx, but if I can get smaller I'd like to use something like that for audio playback boxes & things |
| [20:31:00] | Arkkis: | so, is there a list of figuring out what tuner type to use? |
| [20:31:00] | riksta: | Juski, check this out http://www.soekris.com/net4501.htm |
| [20:31:00] | Arkkis: | Juski, I'm running an epia if that's what you mean |
| [20:31:00] | Beirdo: | because I don't want emerge --sync to overwrite the hack |
| [20:32:00] | Arkkis: | but not for mythtv |
| [20:32:00] | riksta: | Juski, dont think it can be used for what u want but they are damn cool and i was just looking at them when u said that |
| [20:32:00] | Juski: | Arkkis: look in the docs for v4l |
| [20:32:00] | Arkkis: | Juski, ok, thx |
| [20:32:00] | willcooke_laptop: | Juski, If you're going shopping I can suggest www.linitx.com (I think) |
| [20:33:00] | Juski: | I know about the mini-itx toys.. I got an EPIA M10k for my frontend don't forget |
| [20:33:00] | riksta: | we're uk willcooke_laptop |
| [20:33:00] | riksta: | Juski, nice what is it like |
| [20:33:00] | Juski: | mini-itx.com/store and erm.. itxwarehouse.com |
| [20:33:00] | riksta: | u got pics? |
| [20:33:00] | Juski: | riksta: silent as the grave :-D |
| [20:33:00] | Juski: | (since I modded it) |
| [20:33:00] | riksta: | pics! |
| [20:34:00] | willcooke_laptop: | riksta, likewise |
| [20:34:00] | riksta: | ah# |
| [20:34:00] | Juski: | http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=8 |
| [20:35:00] | Juski: | jesus when was the last time I updated that? lol.. it's no longer a 2ghz athlon anyway.. that setup almost melted in that case |
| [20:35:00] | ** Juski grabs his camera ** | |
| [20:36:00] | riksta: | its huge |
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| [20:37:00] | Juski: | yeh _but_ |
| [20:38:00] | Juski: | that box was bought for a full size motherboard, and it cost me a _lot_ |
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| [20:38:00] | Juski: | if I'd have known I was gonna end up going down the itx route I would've got a smaller, prettier case |
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| [20:45:00] | Juski: | it's not as if I can't re-use the box though, and that's something I plan to do at a later date |
| [20:46:00] | Juski: | flippin £110 for that silver box.. I was robbed! |
| [20:46:00] | riksta: | sucker! |
| [20:46:00] | LarryLoungeLizar: | Hey there, I feel like a giant idiot, but i just can't find freevo or mythtv anywhere in kubuntu using adept, could anyone point me off the road less travelled :) thanks |
| [20:47:00] | Juski: | freevo? wossat? lol |
| [20:47:00] | LarryLoungeLizar: | ahem, sorry, blush |
| [20:47:00] | LarryLoungeLizar: | just mythtv then |
| [20:47:00] | Fitzsimmons: | :D |
| [20:48:00] | LarryLoungeLizar: | my kubuntu is just working so brilliantly and i'm concerned that if i manually install freevo, i'm going to break it |
| [20:48:00] | LarryLoungeLizar: | i had mythtv running using debian, but i've chosen kubuntu as the box for my lounge (media centre) |
| [20:48:00] | laga: | adept? ;) |
| [20:49:00] | laga: | LarryLoungeLizar: check if it's in multiverser |
| [20:49:00] | laga: | multiverse* |
| [20:49:00] | willcooke_laptop: | it is# |
| [20:49:00] | LarryLoungeLizar: | a gui for apt |
| [20:49:00] | laga: | ho, ok |
| [20:49:00] | Juski: | mythtv is easy enough to get with ubuntu, so erm.. it ain't rocket science.. so long as you have multiverse |
| [20:50:00] | Juski: | apt needs a gui? I thought that was what synaptic was fer |
| [20:50:00] | LarryLoungeLizar: | i thought i had multiverse, lemme have a quick look under the bonnet, *thanks!* |
| [20:50:00] | LarryLoungeLizar: | yup, exactly like synaptic |
| [20:50:00] | willcooke_laptop: | Oh, hold on, are we talking about freevo or myth?# |
| [20:50:00] | LarryLoungeLizar: | like a kde ver of synaptic, but frankly i prefer synaptic so far |
| [20:51:00] | LarryLoungeLizar: | except for the search as you type package filter – pretty cool – synaptic could do with that |
| [20:51:00] | LarryLoungeLizar: | (i digress) |
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| [20:51:00] | willcooke_laptop: | ARGH! I bought a case of 24 Grolsh for xmas/new year and I've been keeping outside the back door, they've all bloody frozen. |
| [20:52:00] | laga: | grolsh sounds dangerous |
| [20:52:00] | Juski: | yikes freevo still exists! |
| [20:52:00] | willcooke_laptop: | laga, common misconception. grolsh is actually good for you! ;) |
| [20:52:00] | riksta: | willcooke_laptop, bad idea! |
| [20:52:00] | Juski: | about as good for you as Becks is I bet |
| [20:53:00] | Juski: | get some Hooegaarden or whatever :P |
| [20:53:00] | laga: | well, Becks is OK ;) |
| [20:53:00] | Juski: | now that's a nice boozey |
| [20:53:00] | LarryLoungeLizar: | so i guess you guys won't be going to the freevo christmas dinner :) |
| [20:54:00] | riksta: | hoegarden is tasty |
| [20:54:00] | Juski: | ahem.. wonder where those graphics came from? http://freevo.sourceforge.net/ss/blurr/freevo_ss1_640.jpg |
| [20:54:00] | willcooke_laptop: | I'm quite fond of the new Hieniken(sp?). The 5% stuff, not the old 2% or whatever it was |
| [20:54:00] | riksta: | heineken i think |
| [20:55:00] | ** riksta reveals his beer love ** | |
| [20:55:00] | riksta: | willcooke_laptop, thats "export" |
| [20:56:00] | willcooke_laptop: | How do they call things "export" when they're all made in the UK!!? |
| [20:56:00] | Juski: | freevo looks nice, but why reinvent the wheel? |
| [20:57:00] | riksta: | fosters the amber nectar is made 5 minutes from me |
| [20:57:00] | riksta: | :) |
| [20:57:00] | riksta: | in manchester |
| [20:57:00] | willcooke_laptop: | ha! |
| [20:57:00] | Juski: | another manc eh? |
| [20:57:00] | riksta: | it stinks too |
| [20:57:00] | Juski: | ;-) |
| [20:57:00] | LarryLoungeLizar: | Juski, i seem to have multiverse: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse |
| [20:57:00] | riksta: | Juski, baguley? |
| [20:57:00] | Juski: | I thought they were closing Strangeways brewery |
| [20:57:00] | Juski: | riskta: failsworth (ish) |
| [20:57:00] | riksta: | ah just used ure hostname |
| [20:58:00] | riksta: | Juski, it's the one in hulme |
| [20:58:00] | Juski: | yeh I'm robbing broadband from some guy in baguley |
| [20:58:00] | riksta: | i have an apartment in the city centre |
| [20:58:00] | Juski: | I almost bought one til I found out how much extra it'd cost me to keep a car there |
| [20:59:00] | riksta: | yeah costs me over a grand a year |
| [20:59:00] | Juski: | only that much? |
| [20:59:00] | riksta: | yeah contract secure parking |
| [20:59:00] | riksta: | about 1300 i think |
| [20:59:00] | Juski: | was more than that when I looked into it bout 8 years ago |
| [20:59:00] | riksta: | had my car smashed into 3 times already |
| [21:00:00] | ** Juski touches the wood of the desk.. ** | |
| [21:00:00] | Kelerion: | guys – am having a blonde-moment.. why is /lib/modules/2.6.12.blah/build missing under ubuntu? am trying to build ivtv and it's not there |
| [21:00:00] | Juski: | not happenned to me since I moved away from Ashtray under Lyne |
| [21:00:00] | Kelerion: | I did this yesterday! lol |
| [21:01:00] | laga: | Kelerion: the kernel source is supposed to be there. well, actuqally it's a symlink to /usr/src/linux-foo. it's possible that the kernel-headers are sufficient, though |
| [21:01:00] | laga: | sorry, new keyboard. ;) |
| [21:02:00] | Kelerion: | build is a symlink to /usr/src/linux-foo? |
| [21:02:00] | Kelerion: | okies – cool |
| [21:02:00] | laga: | Kelerion: foo should be the version ;) |
| [21:02:00] | Kelerion: | yeah yeah.. lol |
| [21:03:00] | Beirdo: | great |
| [21:03:00] | Beirdo: | stupid-ass mplayer coredumps now |
| [21:03:00] | Beirdo: | wunderbar |
| [21:03:00] | Juski: | just updated my piccy, laga: http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=22 |
| [21:04:00] | laga: | http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=22 |
| [21:04:00] | laga: | oops, sorry. |
| [21:04:00] | laga: | darn puy |
| [21:04:00] | laga: | putty* |
| [21:04:00] | Juski: | darn echo more like heh |
| [21:05:00] | laga: | Juski: hehe, nice. makes me want to clean up my mess ;) |
| [21:06:00] | Beirdo: | MPlayer interrupted by signal 11 in module: af_preinit |
| [21:06:00] | Beirdo: | woohoo! |
| [21:06:00] | Beirdo: | go mplayer |
| [21:06:00] | Beirdo: | POS |
| [21:07:00] | Beirdo: | didn't like the resample?! |
| [21:07:00] | Beirdo: | argh |
| [21:09:00] | Kelerion: | thanks laga – that fixed it .. needed to link to headers |
| [21:10:00] | riksta: | Beirdo, pipe it to sox |
| [21:10:00] | Beirdo: | I was |
| [21:10:00] | riksta: | up the cache maybe? |
| [21:10:00] | Beirdo: | but sox you need to tell the sample rate |
| [21:10:00] | riksta: | or lower |
| [21:10:00] | Beirdo: | and some streams are 44100, some 32000, etc |
| [21:11:00] | riksta: | ah ballz |
| [21:11:00] | riksta: | that could be a prob |
| [21:12:00] | Beirdo: | shouldn't be |
| [21:12:00] | Beirdo: | mplayer should be able to resample |
| [21:13:00] | bjohnson: | Beirdo: what are you doing Saturday? |
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| [21:14:00] | FunkyELF: | Beirdo, did you say that you use ffmpeg to transcode? |
| [21:14:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [21:14:00] | Beirdo: | bjohnson: as little as I can :) |
| [21:15:00] | bjohnson: | trying to arrange a trip to TO |
| [21:15:00] | FunkyELF: | Beirdo, where do you set that up? under recording profiles? |
| [21:15:00] | FunkyELF: | all I see if rtjpeg and mpeg-4 |
| [21:15:00] | bjohnson: | need to coordinate a few stops with other people .. but it's looking like a possibility |
| [21:15:00] | Beirdo: | in nuvexport |
| [21:16:00] | Beirdo: | bjohnson: ahhh, cool |
| [21:16:00] | bjohnson: | are those goodies still available? |
| [21:16:00] | FunkyELF: | Beirdo, could you elaborate? What is nuvexport? |
| [21:17:00] | bjohnson: | btw, I use avidemux to transcode |
| [21:17:00] | Beirdo: | nuvexport is a program that will export to various formats |
| [21:17:00] | bjohnson: | and the config I usually use in avidemux uses ffmpeg |
| [21:18:00] | FunkyELF: | Beirdo, so you do this outside of mythfrontend? |
| [21:18:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [21:18:00] | FunkyELF: | ...or will nuvexport show up as a transcoder? |
| [21:18:00] | FunkyELF: | oh, okay.... |
| [21:18:00] | bjohnson: | avidemux is a gui to use other video tools. I think nuvexport is similar |
| [21:18:00] | Fitzsimmons: | nuvexport is console |
| [21:19:00] | FunkyELF: | because I played around with transcoding and I could never get the resulting files to play on windows even tho they were mpeg-4 |
| [21:19:00] | FunkyELF: | I installed "k-lite codec pack" on windows which usually takes care of every video format out there |
| [21:19:00] | FunkyELF: | ...still not playable |
| [21:20:00] | bjohnson: | it's tricky |
| [21:20:00] | LarryLoungeLizar: | orry to bother juski, i really like myth based on what i saw in debian, but now am really keen to get it working in kubuntu, it doesn't show even with multiverse enabled, do u have any suggestions, *please*, thanks. |
| [21:20:00] | bjohnson: | btw, you could also use ffmpeg with transcode |
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| [21:25:00] | Juski: | LarryLoungeLizar: it should be there in _one_ of the repositories... |
| [21:25:00] | LarryLoungeLizar: | k cool i thought so, will keep searching thx |
| [21:26:00] | bjohnson: | Beirdo: can I arrange to pick up those items early Saturday afternoon? |
| [21:26:00] | Juski: | try this page. LarryLoungeLizar: http://www.abarbaccia.com/content/view/15/29/ |
| [21:26:00] | Beirdo: | sure |
| [21:28:00] | LarryLoungeLizar: | wow, thanks a million!!!! i've been searching all day and normally consider myself a fit and effective google athlete. sorry for wasting your time |
| [21:28:00] | ** poop yawns ** | |
| [21:28:00] | bjohnson: | Beirdo: I guess I can't pm |
| [21:28:00] | poop: | http://www.noblecow.org/pvr/mythtv.html <-- no MythTV for me |
| [21:28:00] | Juski: | erm.. 3rd google hit on 'ubuntu mythtv' :-/ |
| [21:28:00] | bjohnson: | there we go |
| [21:31:00] | Juski: | poop: a sad day indeed... good luck with windows, though.. but I doubt it'll be any less frustrating somehow |
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| [21:32:00] | poop: | Juski: Well, if you eliminate all the obstacles but one (the software), I hope it'll get easier. |
| [21:34:00] | ** poop futzes with xine again ** | |
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| [21:41:00] | sri: | so I asked before and thought I would ask again as I can't seem to find anything in the archives.. but.. |
| [21:42:00] | sri: | has anybody seen this problem where when you connect to a backend from another machine and the video/sound works for like 2s and then everything freezes |
| [21:42:00] | sri: | the error says "waiting for encoder" |
| [21:42:00] | sri: | but the backend doesn't say anything ohter than the client moved from None to LiveTV and then livetv to None. |
| [21:42:00] | Kelerion: | enough drive space? |
| [21:42:00] | sri: | hrm. |
| [21:43:00] | sri: | I didn't think of that. |
| [21:43:00] | ** sri checks something ** | |
| [21:43:00] | sri: | bastard. |
| [21:43:00] | ** Kelerion grins ** | |
| [21:43:00] | sri: | haha |
| [21:43:00] | sri: | actually, it's not enough space |
| [21:44:00] | sri: | it's more like I pointed mythtv backend to write it's stuff to /video |
| [21:44:00] | Kelerion: | which – doesn't exist? |
| [21:44:00] | sri: | but /video's dot directory was still owned by root while it's subdirs were owned by mythtv |
| [21:45:00] | Kelerion: | well.. there ya go then |
| [21:45:00] | sri: | yeah. |
| [21:45:00] | sri: | when you mentioned not enough drive space that triggered something. |
| [21:45:00] | sri: | thanks! |
| [21:45:00] | sri: | thats probably it. |
| [21:45:00] | Kelerion: | np |
| [21:46:00] | Kelerion: | hey.. I think thats the first time I've helped anyone in this channel.. lol |
| [21:46:00] | Kelerion: | even if it was indirectly.. lol |
| [21:46:00] | sri: | hehe |
| [21:46:00] | Juski: | is dvb scanning working with the latest svn? |
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| [21:47:00] | sri: | we've been yacking on the rhythmbox ML about mythtv sharing rhythmbox's music db in order to have one canonical music database. |
| [21:47:00] | Juski: | cos it doesn't seem to be working here |
| [21:47:00] | sri: | Kelerion: my sound wasn't working with 0.4.1 but works iwth 0.4.0 but it required me to downgrade to 2.6.12 :( |
| [21:47:00] | sri: | Kelerion: kinda annoying. |
| [21:47:00] | kormoc: | sri, why not just write a mythrythumbox plugin? |
| [21:48:00] | sri: | kormoc: the issue is more along the lines that if the database is updated mythtv needs to know, or if a user using mythtv updates the database there needs to be locking |
| [21:48:00] | sri: | I haven't split up the database from the ui from rb yet. |
| [21:49:00] | sri: | me and the maintainer were talking about it but he's off the net due to a bad adsl modem. |
| [21:49:00] | NightMonkey: | What is the current ivtv <-> kernel version compatibility matrix? |
| [21:49:00] | sri: | it's likely yes, that you want to write a plugin to use the database, but the issue is with teh database itself not mythtv. |
| [21:49:00] | NightMonkey: | Er, ivtv version <-> kernel version, rather. |
| [21:49:00] | sri: | ivtv 0.4.0 for 2.6.14 and below I believe |
| [21:49:00] | sri: | ivtv 0.4.1 for 2.6.15 and above. |
| [21:50:00] | NightMonkey: | sri: Thanks. |
| [21:50:00] | sri: | 0.4.0 doesn't compile with 2.6.15 :) (I should know) |
| [21:51:00] | NightMonkey: | What about the highest kernel version for the "old ivtv" versions, like the 0.2.X series? |
| [21:51:00] | Juski: | hmmm... timeout scanning Multiplex #7: no tables :-/ |
| [21:51:00] | kormoc: | sri, I ment more, a plugin to use rythum box in myth itself |
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| [21:52:00] | corpix64: | Juski: same here |
| [21:52:00] | Kelerion: | thats ridiculous – apt-get is refusing to install myth because the "mythtv" already exists! |
| [21:52:00] | corpix64: | Kelerion: --reinstall |
| [21:53:00] | Kelerion: | but it wasn't installed at yet! lol |
| [21:53:00] | Kelerion: | at all |
| [21:53:00] | ** Juski goes to check the dev list ** | |
| [21:54:00] | corpix64: | hmm, if i'd have know how good mythtv is _without_ a dvb-card, i would have installed it earlier |
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| [21:56:00] | Fitzsimmons: | explain corpix64 |
| [21:56:00] | corpix64: | well, the video/music plugin looks great |
| [21:57:00] | corpix64: | anyways, i need to RMA my dvb card, issues with chipset |
| [21:58:00] | Fitzsimmons: | ohhhh |
| [21:58:00] | willcooke_laptop: | juski, I had the same problems. Asked about it in the dev channel and got no answer. |
| [21:58:00] | Fitzsimmons: | so you're saying that even without a capture card mythtv is worth it for the plugins alone |
| [21:59:00] | corpix64: | exactly, excuse my english |
| [21:59:00] | willcooke_laptop: | juski, I think it uses the "signal strength" and if it's less than x then ignores everything. In the end I did a scan > channels.conf and then imported that |
| [21:59:00] | Fitzsimmons: | corpix64: yeah, I agree. I'm thinking of doing that actually |
| [21:59:00] | Fitzsimmons: | game/video/music for the win |
| [22:00:00] | Juski: | yeh I've just done an import of a channels.conf |
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| [22:00:00] | Juski: | the thing about the driver for my card is it always reports 100% signal strength |
| [22:01:00] | corpix64: | zapping with a dvb-s card is a pain though |
| [22:01:00] | Juski: | and the other aspects of the driver aren't reported properly anyway.. like the error rate is inverted & suchlike |
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| [22:03:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Hi, im just wondering if any one knows what screen res im sopposed to set my xf86 to get tv out working on my ati card. |
| [22:03:00] | willcooke_laptop: | Juski, which card? |
| [22:03:00] | Juski: | willcooke: leadtek lr6650 |
| [22:04:00] | Juski: | I know it works.. got 2 in my gentoo box |
| [22:04:00] | Juski: | just seems like some of the dvb stuff has moved backwards |
| [22:04:00] | Baylink: | IIRC the ATI's NTSC out engine will scale, darkdrgn2k, so it doesn't matter. I don't *think* I'm thinking about the NVidia. |
| [22:05:00] | willcooke_laptop: | Juski, I agree, sorting out the channels is a real PITA, but once I got them all tidy it's been very stable. |
| [22:05:00] | willcooke_laptop: | Hmm, xvmc kills X, won't be using that then |
| [22:05:00] | Juski: | actually.. the scanning malarkey is better to use the dvb-utils |
| [22:05:00] | Juski: | much quicker anyway |
| [22:05:00] | willcooke_laptop: | Juski, :) |
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| [22:06:00] | Juski: | O M G |
| [22:06:00] | Juski: | someone's done an English translation of the menus!!!!! |
| [22:06:00] | Juski: | Information _centre_ |
| [22:06:00] | Juski: | etc |
| [22:06:00] | Juski: | yay! |
| [22:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [22:06:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Baylink: but i get horizontal lines (Looks liek when you set your monitor (older montiro) to a res outside of its range..) |
| [22:06:00] | corpix64: | Juski: u shoulda switch to german (!!) |
| [22:06:00] | Juski: | it's little touches like that :) |
| [22:07:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Baylink: is there a way to display a more verbose startx |
| [22:07:00] | Juski: | yeh.. yous need to have a 100ft interface for all them long words |
| [22:07:00] | willcooke_laptop: | Juski, can you edit the PID's for a specific channel? Say for example I wanted to record the skin channel with the "hidden" video stream, or, when it comes back, xtraview. Or is that strictly for discussing in the pub? |
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| [22:07:00] | Juski: | willcooke: not anymore you can't |
| [22:07:00] | Juski: | prolly not without some major work on the code to undo the dynamic PID stuff |
| [22:07:00] | willcooke_laptop: | Juski, Boo! Oh well, not bothered anyway |
| [22:08:00] | corpix64: | anyone familiar with lirc ? lirc is up an running, irrecord is reacting on the remote, but it doesnt write a config |
| [22:08:00] | willcooke_laptop: | Juski, "cron & dvbstream are my tivo" |
| [22:08:00] | Juski: | only thing worth having on xtraview is cartoon network, and then only when Dexter's lab is on :-P |
| [22:08:00] | willcooke_laptop: | Amen to that! |
| [22:08:00] | Juski: | same for topuptv actually |
| [22:09:00] | Juski: | my inlaws bought a TUTV box for xmas... sales guy said they would get a month for free, so they bought it, right... |
| [22:09:00] | ** willcooke_laptop recorded hours of dexters lab! ** | |
| [22:09:00] | Juski: | but they want £20 signup fee, and your bank details |
| [22:09:00] | Juski: | so it's only a 'free' month if you decide to stay with them |
| [22:10:00] | _willcooke_: | cheeky gets |
| [22:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [22:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | I hate places like that |
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| [22:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | Blockbuster no long charge late fees if you return a movie late....they charge a "restocking fee" :) |
| [22:11:00] | Juski: | heh |
| [22:11:00] | Fitzsimmons: | lol |
| [22:11:00] | willcooke_laptop: | Juski, someone has just added an EIT patch, that might help with scanning? |
| [22:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | certainly a lot less than paying the old late fees, but it's a fscking late fee no mater what they call it :) |
| [22:11:00] | Fitzsimmons: | if it is too late they also just count it as a purcahse |
| [22:11:00] | Fitzsimmons: | enjoy your $30 debt |
| [22:11:00] | Juski: | I only need livetv to work so I can tweak my theme-age |
| [22:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | Fitzsimmons: When you return the movie they remove that charge but charge a "restocking fee" |
| [22:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | :) |
| [22:11:00] | darkdrgn2k: | any one know how to turn off (or at least lessen) the time it takes to change channels |
| [22:12:00] | Juski: | darkdrgn2k: get into the (good) habit of time-shifting everything you watch ;) |
| [22:12:00] | willcooke_laptop: | Hmmm, ripped a dvd – lipsync is waaaaay out |
| [22:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | darkdrgn2k: there isn't a whole lot you can do |
| [22:13:00] | darkdrgn2k: | GreyFoxx: cause its liek 3 seconds :-S |
| [22:13:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Juski: FUNNY |
| [22:13:00] | willcooke_laptop: | Interesting, playback through mplayer with -vo gl is not so way out |
| [22:14:00] | willcooke_laptop: | I find the best way to use Myth is to sit down for an hour, go through the weeks TV, find out whats worth watching, set it to record and the sit back and watch what you want, when you want, minus the ads |
| [22:14:00] | darkdrgn2k: | willcooke_laptop: you have a MPEG tuner? |
| [22:15:00] | willcooke_laptop: | dardrgn2k, dvb |
| [22:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | I do it with mythweb , usually from work. I never use livetv except to do a quick test to ensure I can access the tuners after and upgrade :) |
| [22:15:00] | darkdrgn2k: | willcooke_laptop: o.. thast my next purchase once i find one that works well with satalite |
| [22:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | though the livetv rewrite greatly lowered my channel change time which is nifty |
| [22:15:00] | Juski: | haha.. so that's why the plugins weren't there.. forgot to do a make install... oopsie |
| [22:16:00] | willcooke_laptop: | dardrgn2k, they are out there, but I couldnt recommend one |
| [22:16:00] | darkdrgn2k: | willcooke_laptop: why not? |
| [22:16:00] | willcooke_laptop: | darkdrgn2k, I only use dvb-t |
| [22:16:00] | Juski: | whoah man! _how_ fast is mythmusic now?! |
| [22:16:00] | willcooke_laptop: | Juski, Well, it's got search |
| [22:16:00] | darkdrgn2k: | willcooke_laptop: whats the diff? |
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| [22:17:00] | willcooke_laptop: | sat vs aerial |
| [22:17:00] | darkdrgn2k: | aaa |
| [22:17:00] | darkdrgn2k: | gotcha |
| [22:18:00] | darkdrgn2k: | woudl X bitch if you specified and OPTION that isnt supported by the drivr? |
| [22:18:00] | willcooke_laptop: | Juski, nasty bug in music – If you change the output to alsa:spdif (or whatever) you have to re-scan your music before it'll play |
| [22:18:00] | Juski: | eew |
| [22:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | darkdrgn2k: often it will ignore them |
| [22:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | darkdrgn2k: It really depends on the driver |
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| [22:19:00] | willcooke_laptop: | juski, in my experiance anyway. I was going mad trying to get it to work, then it suddenly worked and the only thing I did different was re-scan my music. Stumbled on the answer on about page 80 of a google search! |
| [22:20:00] | janne_oksanen: | I have a configured and working card, my my ~/.mythtv/channels/ is empty |
| [22:20:00] | janne_oksanen: | how do I get some channels there? |
| [22:21:00] | darkdrgn2k: | GreyFoxx: trying to get TV OUT going on an ATI |
| [22:21:00] | darkdrgn2k: | GreyFoxx: added the following: |
| [22:21:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Option "DPMS" |
| [22:21:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Option "TVStandard" "NTSC-M" |
| [22:21:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Option "DesktopSetup" "0x00000100" |
| [22:21:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Option "NoTV" "no" |
| [22:21:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Option "MonitorLayout" "STV,CRT" |
| [22:21:00] | Juski: | does nobody read the FAQs about not bothering with ATI gear? |
| [22:22:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Juski: well first of all i was suggested to buy an ATI card here |
| [22:22:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Juski: second.. its a last attempt before i scrap it all.. |
| [22:22:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Juski: so just chill :-P |
| [22:22:00] | Juski: | they were having a laugh methinks |
| [22:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | darkdrgn2k: I don't use ATI, so I know nothing of their options :) |
| [22:22:00] | darkdrgn2k: | GreyFoxx: Agh! |
| [22:23:00] | Juski: | so erm.. does it work at all, darkdrgn2k? |
| [22:23:00] | laga: | it was probably beirdo who suggested ATI ;) |
| [22:23:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Juski: well i got it to work in VESA mode :-P |
| [22:24:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Juski: but i got lines going across whe i run it in 3d accell mode |
| [22:24:00] | Juski: | and is it a modern-ish card? if not – and you're relying on gatos.. don't hold your breath |
| [22:24:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Juski: i know gatos sux |
| [22:24:00] | willcooke_laptop: | ATI cards can plug in to a scart with no extra wizardry |
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| [22:25:00] | darkdrgn2k: | ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE] |
| [22:25:00] | laga: | so? scart is just a way to trasnport different signal types |
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| [22:26:00] | willcooke_laptop: | laga, sorry, I should have said ATI cards provide a composite sync so you can run RGB in to a TV very easily |
| [22:26:00] | ** willcooke_laptop bought a nvidia card anyway ** | |
| [22:27:00] | willcooke_laptop is now known as _willcooke_ | |
| [22:27:00] | Juski: | you can always mod a vga connector to give you composite sync ;) |
| [22:27:00] | darkdrgn2k: | it almost looks liek thises drivers should work |
| [22:27:00] | darkdrgn2k: | i get: |
| [22:28:00] | darkdrgn2k: | (**) RADEON(0): MonitorLayout Option: |
| [22:28:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Monitor1--Type STV, Monitor2--Type CRT |
| [22:28:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, oh yes! And what a difference it makes! It's bleedin' impressive |
| [22:28:00] | riksta: | i wanna know where to get a d-sub -> tv thing from for my laptop |
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| [22:29:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, picture quality is so good the wife says I can have a cat 5 running down the stairs and across the living room |
| [22:29:00] | darkdrgn2k: | riksta: if you find a d-strub to crt let me know!! |
| [22:29:00] | laga: | wow. what exactly are you using? M;) |
| [22:29:00] | _willcooke_: | riksta, d-sub as in 15 pin monitor connection? (Sorry, dont know what a d-sub is) |
| [22:29:00] | riksta: | yes _willcooke_ |
| [22:30:00] | darkdrgn2k: | _willcooke_: VGA |
| [22:30:00] | _willcooke_: | riksta, you UK yeah, so scart? |
| [22:30:00] | riksta: | yeah scart or that round one, which i forgot |
| [22:30:00] | riksta: | scart pref |
| [22:31:00] | darkdrgn2k: | R |
| [22:31:00] | darkdrgn2k: | rCA or SVIDEO |
| [22:31:00] | darkdrgn2k: | they are both round :-P |
| [22:31:00] | riksta: | svideo thats it |
| [22:31:00] | Juski: | nice work, _willcooke_ :) |
| [22:31:00] | riksta: | but is there a cheap dsub to scart |
| [22:31:00] | Juski: | riksta: you can easily build an adapter to go from VGA-SCART |
| [22:31:00] | riksta: | Juski, ? |
| [22:31:00] | Juski: | and with most graphics cards it's easy to pop a modeline together |
| [22:32:00] | riksta: | i915 |
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| [22:32:00] | Juski: | bah you might not be able to get proper interlaced video with that.. or maybe you will |
| [22:32:00] | _willcooke_: | riksta, http://www.nexusuk.org/projects/vga2scart/ |
| [22:33:00] | riksta: | cool |
| [22:33:00] | Juski: | I might have a go, but make an RGB-svid adapter to go with it so I can keep my cable box on AV1 |
| [22:33:00] | _willcooke_: | riksta, I got the bits from maplins for about 3 quid (I bought 10 of everything, just in case) |
| [22:33:00] | Juski: | one NPN transistor |
| [22:33:00] | riksta: | i cant be arsed to build one tho |
| [22:33:00] | Juski: | 3 resistors |
| [22:33:00] | _willcooke_: | riksta, I'll sell you one! :D |
| [22:33:00] | riksta: | for? |
| [22:33:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Juski: know any way to build a vga to svideo connector? |
| [22:33:00] | riksta: | can you make it in one box |
| [22:34:00] | Juski: | darkdrgn2l: you can get them on the flea-bay |
| [22:34:00] | _willcooke_: | riksta, only joking, I'll gladly make you one for free, but if you blow up your telly, you get to keep the pieces! :) |
| [22:34:00] | Juski: | a mate of mine uses one – he got tired of waiting for me to make him one |
| [22:34:00] | riksta: | hmm that sounds dodgy :s |
| [22:34:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Juski: LMAO any plans online? |
| [22:34:00] | riksta: | it could harm the tv then? |
| [22:34:00] | ** _willcooke_ is bad at soldering ** | |
| [22:34:00] | _willcooke_: | riksta, slim chance, but yes. |
| [22:35:00] | Juski: | scroll up, darkdrgn2k |
| [22:35:00] | riksta: | i guess i could try it on a shit tv 1st |
| [22:35:00] | riksta: | what about the SVIDEO is that easier? |
| [22:35:00] | _willcooke_: | riksta, or.. I bought a s-video to scart from ebay for a 5er |
| [22:35:00] | Juski: | might take my box into work & look at it on a vectorscope :-P |
| [22:35:00] | Kelerion: | has breezy got some new firewall I'm not aware of? |
| [22:35:00] | _willcooke_: | a what now? |
| [22:35:00] | riksta: | yeah but i dont want tons of connections in to each other |
| [22:35:00] | riksta: | i want a simple thing i can take around with my laptop, i shuda got a fuckin laptop with tv out |
| [22:36:00] | darkdrgn2k: | riksta: i hear ya@! |
| [22:36:00] | Juski: | vectorscope – fancy video measurement gizmo |
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| [22:36:00] | riksta: | i want a tiny box |
| [22:36:00] | riksta: | ideally |
| [22:36:00] | _willcooke_: | composite is shite. svideo not too bad really, but RGB is the fooki' nuts |
| [22:36:00] | Juski: | I got my circuit to fit inside the scart plug |
| [22:37:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, mine is on a bit of vero board about 6 inches wide! (I forgot to order the 3k3's, so I used 3 x 1k2 instead) |
| [22:37:00] | riksta: | http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VGA-to-Scart-lead-for-w . . . photohosting this looks ok but 25 squid? |
| [22:37:00] | darkdrgn2k: | any one know what the modline should look like for an NTSC output of a monitor |
| [22:37:00] | riksta: | ah radeon only anyway |
| [22:38:00] | _willcooke_: | riksta, 'kin rip off! |
| [22:38:00] | _willcooke_: | ricksta, thats about 3 quids worth of plastic and wire. No smarts in there at all |
| [22:38:00] | riksta: | that looked ideally what i wanted tho |
| [22:39:00] | riksta: | http://www.e.kth.se/~pontusf/vga2scart.html thats cool man |
| [22:39:00] | riksta: | i'd never be able to make one tho :) |
| [22:39:00] | Juski: | http://jusftp-no-ip.org/downloads/scarty/png |
| [22:39:00] | Juski: | oops |
| [22:39:00] | Juski: | http://jusftp-no-ip.org/downloads/scarty.png |
| [22:39:00] | riksta: | vey clever stuff |
| [22:39:00] | Juski: | fuck |
| [22:39:00] | Juski: | http://jusftp.no-ip.org/downloads/scarty.png |
| [22:40:00] | _willcooke_: | riksta, the vga to scart is very easy. I'll make another at the w/end and post some pix |
| [22:40:00] | riksta: | looks.. |
| [22:40:00] | riksta: | Juski, is that just a normal one? |
| [22:41:00] | riksta: | _willcooke_, cool man |
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| [22:41:00] | Juski: | yeah but I used SMD resistors on the back |
| [22:42:00] | riksta: | *woosh* goes over my head :P |
| [22:42:00] | Juski: | surface mount devices.. diddy little things |
| [22:42:00] | Beirdo: | fun little things |
| [22:42:00] | _willcooke_: | juski, f. that! |
| [22:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | Any DVB EIT users here ? |
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| [22:43:00] | riksta: | GreyFoxx, kinda but im at my rents house right now |
| [22:43:00] | Beirdo: | hand soldering the ones smaller than 0406 is a PITA |
| [22:43:00] | ** _willcooke_ guesses whats coming greyfoxx ** | |
| [22:43:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: you might wanna hunt down beavis ;) |
| [22:43:00] | Beirdo: | and butthead too |
| [22:43:00] | laga: | Beirdo: naw, he's not cool. |
| [22:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | riksta: I've been messing around with my settings on a dev box and I'm trying to figure out what I did to stop myth frm seeing eit events :) |
| [22:44:00] | _willcooke_: | greyfoxx, svn? |
| [22:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | I had it going this afternoon but have been turning things on and off hehe. I thought I hadit back to where it was but apparently not |
| [22:44:00] | Juski: | Beirdo: we're moving to smaller than 0406 soon at work |
| [22:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | _willcooke_: Yes |
| [22:44:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: i believe there's a settting in mythtv-setup that says "use on-air guide". but i could be wrong, i don_'t even have DVB |
| [22:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | I had it going this afternoon |
| [22:44:00] | riksta: | GreyFoxx, hmm what kinda things did you tweak |
| [22:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | riksta: If it's dvb related it got played with :) |
| [22:44:00] | riksta: | haha |
| [22:44:00] | riksta: | man that leaves a lot of scope |
| [22:45:00] | Juski: | I'm glad importing a channels.conf works, cos the scanning doesn't work for me |
| [22:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | so What I'm really asking is, do you know exactly what you have to enable to get it working ? |
| [22:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | I have it enabled in the video source, I have it enabled on several channels |
| [22:45:00] | _willcooke_: | greyfoxx, try checking for something about "ignore tuning timeout" |
| [22:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | but it never seems to see the data |
| [22:45:00] | Juski: | GreyFoxx: watching & recording should make it kick in.. the catch being that the card has to be active I think |
| [22:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | Juski: Ok, I have myth set to always have the device open so I assumed that would be enough |
| [22:46:00] | riksta: | GreyFoxx, im not sure ping dopester |
| [22:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | It would be kinda lame to only pull data if you are in the middle of recoding |
| [22:46:00] | _willcooke_: | i think it has to be tuned as well |
| [22:46:00] | Juski: | it's called by the dvb recorder I think |
| [22:47:00] | Juski: | I read a lot of the source just out of curiosity |
| [22:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | the passive scanner should (as far as I thought) tune to one of the "useonairguide" channels when not recording |
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| [22:47:00] | riksta: | GreyFoxx, it does |
| [22:47:00] | riksta: | there is a tickbox somewhere that says use onair guide, i think its in the card setup |
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| [22:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | riksta: there is on in the video source, and I have that enabled |
| [22:48:00] | Juski: | oh yeah there's a new thing in the video sources setup page isn't there |
| [22:48:00] | riksta: | GreyFoxx, did you make sure it took effect in the database? |
| [22:48:00] | riksta: | Juski, it's hardly new, but yeah :) |
| [22:48:00] | Juski: | new to me, so it's new ;) |
| [22:49:00] | riksta: | :) |
| [22:49:00] | ** _willcooke_ never got it to work, so gave up and went back to radio times ** | |
| [22:49:00] | riksta: | it worked perfectly for me |
| [22:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | riksta: The setting was still there when I next went , so it was properly written to the DVB, and I've restarted mythbackend several times |
| [22:49:00] | riksta: | GreyFoxx, yeah that's odd i must say |
| [22:49:00] | Juski: | actually.. I'll let you know in a sec.. it's not working for me either |
| [22:49:00] | riksta: | dopester, is the guy who wrote the EIT scanner so best to ask him |
| [22:50:00] | laga: | danielk should be able to tell you a few things as well ;) |
| [22:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | I kicked off live and it appears to be processing data now, but it's not doing it when in a passive mode |
| [22:50:00] | laga: | "passive"? |
| [22:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | the scanner has been largely redone from what dopester wrote |
| [22:50:00] | riksta: | GreyFoxx, well don't forget |
| [22:50:00] | riksta: | the guide data doesnt appear instantly |
| [22:50:00] | riksta: | it has to wait to be idle and hope across the transports |
| [22:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: yeah, when not in use it will move through your list of on air guide channels gathering data |
| [22:50:00] | riksta: | s/hope/hop/ |
| [22:50:00] | riksta: | GreyFoxx, it takes time |
| [22:51:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: oh, ok. looks like i did not keep up with recent developemnt :) |
| [22:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | riksta: I'm not worried abvout the data, I just want to see it processing, with -v eit,suparser and watching the sql logs reveal |
| [22:51:00] | riksta: | yeah i get you |
| [22:51:00] | riksta: | did you update svn ? |
| [22:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | but it's only doing it when tuned to livetv, which means it's not working exactly as it was earlier today |
| [22:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | I always run svn |
| [22:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | and no I haven't changed it since it was working earlier :) |
| [22:52:00] | riksta: | no i mean did u check out today when it stopped |
| [22:52:00] | riksta: | ok :) |
| [22:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | just settings :)_ |
| [22:52:00] | riksta: | thats odd |
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| [22:53:00] | Juski: | hmmm xvmc isn't working.. I get something saying that it isn't supported by the display |
| [22:54:00] | ** GreyFoxx stops livetv and waits to see if it kicks in again ** | |
| [22:55:00] | riksta: | it doesnt always kick in real quick |
| [22:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | there is a 2 minute timer |
| [22:55:00] | riksta: | there ya go . |
| [22:55:00] | riksta: | 2minutes is like an age to me im an impatient fsck |
| [22:55:00] | riksta: | inpatient |
| [22:56:00] | corpix64: | damn, they update svn almost every hour |
| [22:56:00] | _willcooke_: | :) |
| [22:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'll probably lower that for my tests |
| [22:57:00] | laga: | corpix64: which sucks because it takes 90 minutes to compile it on my box (without distcc and ccache, of course) |
| [22:57:00] | Juski: | is there anything I need to do in terms of configuration to get xvmc to work? like changing something in xorg.conf? |
| [22:57:00] | corpix64: | laga: well, no problem with that ;) |
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| [23:00:00] | Kelerion: | ok – am lost.. I can't connect to mysql from any *other* machine than the machine mysql is running on – I get a connection refused.. I can't even telnet to the 3306 port |
| [23:00:00] | corpix64: | is the hostname ok ? |
| [23:00:00] | Kelerion: | using ip addresses |
| [23:01:00] | corpix64: | firewall issues ? |
| [23:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kelerion: Maybe mysql is configured to only bind to localhost ? |
| [23:01:00] | riksta: | Kelerion, tell it to listen on all interfaces in my.cnf |
| [23:01:00] | corpix64: | iptables --list |
| [23:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | or it's not binding to the port at all? |
| [23:01:00] | riksta: | netstat -alp|grep mysql |
| [23:01:00] | Kelerion: | I can connect to it locally |
| [23:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | look for bind= in your my.cnf or skip-networking |
| [23:01:00] | riksta: | Kelerion, SO?? |
| [23:01:00] | _willcooke_: | kelerion, or skip-networking in your my.cnf |
| [23:01:00] | Kelerion: | so it must be binding to a port.. right? |
| [23:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kelerion: How are you connecting to it ? |
| [23:02:00] | _willcooke_: | I think ubuntu disables networking by default |
| [23:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | if you are using the mysql command then it could just be using a local unix socket |
| [23:02:00] | Kelerion: | "mysql" command |
| [23:02:00] | Kelerion: | ahh okies |
| [23:02:00] | Kelerion: | *damn* |
| [23:02:00] | Kelerion: | got it |
| [23:02:00] | Kelerion: | they changed the default!!! |
| [23:03:00] | Juski: | think I needed to add Load "XvMC" to the modules section of my xorg.conf |
| [23:03:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, ahhh, that might be why mine doesnt work |
| [23:03:00] | Juski: | rebootage |
| [23:03:00] | Juski: | ctrl-alt-f10 doesn't get me back to the shell properly :/ |
| [23:04:00] | Kelerion: | thanks.. |
| [23:04:00] | ** Kelerion gets back to it ** | |
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| [23:05:00] | tclhal: | Does anyone know where /dev/video should come from? I put in a symlink -> /dev/video0 but it gets cleared out after a reboot. I'm running ubuntu 5.10. |
| [23:06:00] | Juski: | anyhow.. before I installed SVN, 0.18.1 was working in livetv just great.. cpu usage was fairly lowish but everything was smooth... with svn it's very bitty.. get smooth tv in bursts in live mode, but recordings are played back fluidly |
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| [23:07:00] | Beirdo: | tclhal, use /dev/video0 instead |
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| [23:07:00] | laga: | Juski: someone complained on -dev recently about something like that, maybe you want to take a look |
| [23:07:00] | _willcooke_: | juski, Ahahahaha! I've got that too. It looks like the video is doing a quick-slow-quick-quick-slow? |
| [23:08:00] | Juski: | I looked at that, laga but didn't see any good replies on it |
| [23:08:00] | tclhal: | I've changed it in mythtv-setup to /dev/video0 but there is a "Input Connections" section in mythtv-setup that crashes because It can not probe /dev/video |
| [23:08:00] | _willcooke_: | juski, I've checked and cpu is low, disk io is low, it's just a bit odd. |
| [23:08:00] | tclhal: | Not sure how to tell mythtv-setup to probe somewherelse |
| [23:09:00] | Juski: | erse.. xvmc isn't being found my mythtv.. so that's it.. it's in the wrong place.. wrong env variable.. _again_ |
| [23:10:00] | _willcooke_: | juski, what's the fix? I'd like to try it myself, xvmc kills my X |
| [23:10:00] | Juski: | no idea what the fix is in your case |
| [23:11:00] | _willcooke_: | juski, well I havent got a xvmc in my modules, so if I put that in and it says it cant find it, what do I need to do? |
| [23:13:00] | riksta: | do you guys get that jerkyness in DVB when the picture fades to almost black with just a bit of text onthe screen etc? |
| [23:13:00] | riksta: | like the title sequence of list |
| [23:13:00] | riksta: | lost |
| [23:13:00] | _willcooke_: | riksta, yes |
| [23:13:00] | riksta: | was tracking it on the lists but im on my laptop dont have the thread |
| [23:14:00] | riksta: | it's annoyin' |
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| [23:14:00] | _willcooke_: | riksta, it means I'm watching telly on the STB not the myth box! |
| [23:14:00] | Juski: | can't say I've noticed that, but then I don't watch 'lost' |
| [23:14:00] | _willcooke_: | juski, I think it's all part of the same problem |
| [23:15:00] | riksta: | Juski, it happens on loads of stuff, adverts etc |
| [23:15:00] | riksta: | anything where the majority of the picture is black |
| [23:15:00] | _willcooke_: | I notice it on the bbc 1 xmas idents |
| [23:15:00] | Juski: | but recordings look absolutely fine when I play em back.. it's only live that's being strange as far as I can tell |
| [23:15:00] | riksta: | the bitrate drops too low apparently |
| [23:16:00] | Juski: | low bitrates.. now there's a surprise |
| [23:16:00] | _willcooke_: | is dvb vbr? I thought is was cbr. |
| [23:16:00] | Juski: | can be either |
| [23:16:00] | ** _willcooke_ learns something new everyday! :) ** | |
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| [23:17:00] | Juski: | peak bitrate is always less than 2mbps though isn't it? looks gash on some stuff |
| [23:17:00] | _willcooke_: | yeah, there was some nature thing on the other day with a waterfall, it was a mess! |
| [23:17:00] | Juski: | lego-vision ahoy! |
| [23:17:00] | _willcooke_: | massive square blocks |
| [23:18:00] | _willcooke_: | juski, ha! |
| [23:18:00] | riksta: | some mong just DCCd everyone in #gentoo |
| [23:18:00] | riksta: | yeah shud be about 15 Juski |
| [23:18:00] | _willcooke_: | "some mong" – lol |
| [23:18:00] | riksta: | peak |
| [23:18:00] | phoner: | I use porn to benchmark all my recordings |
| [23:18:00] | Juski: | depends on the encoder they use and where the source came from.. mutiple source recodes etc.. |
| [23:18:00] | _willcooke_: | lots of colour! |
| [23:18:00] | riksta: | depends if its interracial |
| [23:18:00] | _willcooke_: | lol |
| [23:18:00] | riksta: | hahah |
| [23:19:00] | Juski: | 15mbps? and its _that_ shite? what are they using to encode? |
| [23:19:00] | _willcooke_: | bbc b |
| [23:19:00] | riksta: | Juski, it changes |
| [23:19:00] | Juski: | we need more bandwidth, or less shopping channels |
| [23:19:00] | riksta: | yeah man |
| [23:19:00] | _willcooke_: | amen brother |
| [23:19:00] | riksta: | and that quiz shit |
| [23:19:00] | riksta: | with the worst presenters ever |
| [23:20:00] | Juski: | yeh the impossible to answer quizzes |
| [23:20:00] | riksta: | haha yer |
| [23:20:00] | _willcooke_: | the OFT are having a word with them about that |
| [23:20:00] | Juski: | and evidence that you can give someone a full labotomy without scarring |
| [23:20:00] | _willcooke_: | lol |
| [23:21:00] | Juski: | plunge the loan companies out of business & bang goes all their advertising revenue though.. muhahahahaha |
| [23:21:00] | _willcooke_: | :) |
| [23:22:00] | Juski: | I was considering starting a campaign – 'the campaign for lego-free TV'.. similar to the 'campaign for logo-free TV' only less anal |
| [23:22:00] | _willcooke_: | hmm, the dog has just spewed on the carpet, brb |
| [23:22:00] | laga: | o_o |
| [23:23:00] | Juski: | nobody seemed to be interested in that idea though.. people seem happy with 'digital quality' |
| [23:23:00] | splAt1 is now known as splat1 | |
| [23:25:00] | _willcooke_: | dont feed dogs left over turkey |
| [23:26:00] | Juski: | heh |
| [23:26:00] | Juski: | is the dawgie ok though? |
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| [23:26:00] | _willcooke_: | again, dab is at times a lot worse than fm |
| [23:26:00] | _willcooke_: | Oh, she's fine. Tried to eat the sick |
| [23:27:00] | riksta: | ew |
| [23:27:00] | riksta: | sky looks worse than my dvb-t card by miles |
| [23:28:00] | _willcooke_: | wow, really? I thought sky was supposed to be bettwe |
| [23:28:00] | Juski: | really? how do people put up with that? |
| [23:28:00] | riksta: | i dont think so |
| [23:28:00] | riksta: | i see so much blocking on sky |
| [23:28:00] | Juski: | ntl get their feeds from $ly, so they look pretty crap |
| [23:28:00] | _willcooke_: | will HD come to freeview? |
| [23:28:00] | Juski: | at some point after the analogue switchoff |
| [23:28:00] | riksta: | _willcooke_, don't think there's enough b/w, maybe when they turn off analogue |
| [23:28:00] | Juski: | and then it'll be a whole barrel of mpeg4 |
| [23:28:00] | riksta: | ah Juski beat me |
| [23:29:00] | riksta: | there's no b/w left now for mobile tv |
| [23:29:00] | _willcooke_: | Mmmm. MP4 would be pretty good |
| [23:29:00] | Juski: | mpeg frigging four! how much CPU is that gonna need?! |
| [23:29:00] | riksta: | moores law ;0 |
| [23:29:00] | _willcooke_: | You can get on-chip mp4 decoders now, i.e. mobile phones |
| [23:29:00] | Juski: | never thought of it like that |
| [23:29:00] | Juski: | yeh for 1/2CIF resolution clips |
| [23:30:00] | _willcooke_: | fair point, psp? |
| [23:30:00] | riksta: | we talk like we are stoned |
| [23:30:00] | ** _willcooke_ is ** | |
| [23:30:00] | Juski: | a PCI card full of FPGA devices :D |
| [23:31:00] | Juski: | get it to do the HDCP bypassing too ;-) |
| [23:31:00] | _willcooke_: | ? |
| [23:31:00] | Juski: | field programmable gate arrays |
| [23:31:00] | Juski: | like hundreds of thousands of logic gates configurable by software |
| [23:31:00] | _willcooke_: | ah, ok. heard of them, dont know what they do |
| [23:31:00] | Juski: | you can make em be CPUs, DSPs.. all sorts |
| [23:32:00] | jcsmith|away: | juski: thanks for the suggestions this morning with the scrolling lines on my video cards, i unplugeed the incoming telecable from the television and the display is clear, guess it was impedence from the cable showing up |
| [23:32:00] | _willcooke_: | could be a ground loop too |
| [23:32:00] | Juski: | jcsmith: no probs – maybe did you a favour there too.. like if your cable ever got a lightning strike... |
| [23:33:00] | jcsmith|away: | well its going to be hooked up to my hauppauge card shortly, it arrived while i was at work today, i guess i'll have to get a grounding device for the cable |
| [23:34:00] | Juski: | it should get fairly well grounded onto the PC chassis, which should by all rights be very well grounded anyway |
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| [23:35:00] | jcsmith|away: | but eventually i want to hook the cable up to the tv also, i only have one hauppauge card and i'd like to be able to watch while recording and thats the cheap solution for the near term |
| [23:35:00] | _willcooke_: | hmm, good point. where is my pc chasis grounded, via the mb? |
| [23:35:00] | Juski: | anyone ever experienced shocks from their PC & TV.. like holding onto the PC case & touching a lead connected to a TV input.. ouchio |
| [23:35:00] | Juski: | _willcooke_: 0v on the PSU cables.. motherboard mounting points.. and where the PSU is held onto the chassis |
| [23:35:00] | jcsmith|away: | i've experienced shocks just from touching the tv and the cable at the same time |
| [23:35:00] | _willcooke_: | ahhhh |
| [23:36:00] | Juski: | which is just another reason why people who build perspex PC cases (mains powered) are losers |
| [23:37:00] | _willcooke_: | I was a bit worried about plugging in my dodgy scart cable in to the telly, the potential difference between the tv and the computer is massive volts |
| [23:37:00] | jcsmith|away: | you guys are much more electrically enclined than me, i'll stick to software :-P |
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| [23:38:00] | Juski: | _willcooke_ if it's any more than 100V you're in trouble.. mine's about 70 I think |
| [23:39:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, ever build that thing where you put a bit of tin foil on the screen and another to ground and get the two balls jumping about |
| [23:39:00] | ** _willcooke_ will wears wellies when messing with the tv ** | |
| [23:40:00] | Juski: | er... we did that kind of trick to a guy @ work the other week |
| [23:40:00] | _willcooke_: | ooooof! |
| [23:40:00] | _willcooke_: | makes you swear |
| [23:40:00] | Juski: | I had my hand on a monitor... |
| [23:40:00] | Juski: | I wasn't grounded (like I ever am) |
| [23:40:00] | _willcooke_: | haha! |
| [23:40:00] | Juski: | zzzzzzzzzap! |
| [23:40:00] | _willcooke_: | lol |
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| [23:41:00] | Juski: | right I've confirmed all me plugins are working.. xvmc can wait.. like forever |
| [23:42:00] | _willcooke_: | juski, dont you have to wear one of those shoe strap things? |
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| [23:42:00] | Juski: | nah |
| [23:42:00] | Juski: | as far as we know, nobody in our dept has ever killed a board with static |
| [23:42:00] | _willcooke_: | like wise |
| [23:42:00] | Juski: | apart from our EMC tester geezer |
| [23:43:00] | Juski: | he's nasty with that HT probe.. shoving 8kV into front panels... |
| [23:43:00] | _willcooke_: | He killed one of our secure telephones, 3 grands worth |
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| [23:43:00] | Juski: | like "oh look the anodising has come away" |
| [23:44:00] | _willcooke_: | "what's that smell?" |
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| [23:44:00] | Juski: | the UL approval process makes me laugh though |
| [23:44:00] | NightMonkey: | Hi, all. Anyone hear from zap2it about the nature of their problems? ETA? |
| [23:44:00] | _willcooke_: | UL? |
| [23:45:00] | Juski: | underwriters labs – they're needed to be able to sell stuff to the states |
| [23:45:00] | _willcooke_: | like CE? |
| [23:45:00] | Juski: | yeh only less so |
| [23:45:00] | _willcooke_: | that 110v for you! |
| [23:46:00] | Juski: | can't wait to get my hands on our next gen. DVR though (ssshh) |
| [23:46:00] | FunkyELF: | when to finished jobs go away from the job queue? |
| [23:47:00] | Juski: | FunkyELF: next time you go in there they should be gone |
| [23:47:00] | _willcooke_: | ooooo! |
| [23:47:00] | _willcooke_: | If there was a box with 2 or 3 dvb tuners and a 300gig hdd AND an ethernet port I'd probably scrap myth |
| [23:48:00] | riksta: | ? |
| [23:48:00] | Juski: | yeh like that's ever gonna happen |
| [23:48:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, have you seen "Promise TV"? |
| [23:48:00] | Juski: | is that the thing the beeb R&D are tinkering with? |
| [23:48:00] | Juski: | 7 days continuous recording etc... |
| [23:48:00] | riksta: | that's tv on demand |
| [23:48:00] | riksta: | ntl do that |
| [23:48:00] | Juski: | yeh but _at home_ |
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| [23:49:00] | riksta: | ntl r trialling it |
| [23:49:00] | Juski: | ntl don't do that here yet |
| [23:49:00] | _willcooke_: | dunno, I suspect it's vaporware. It's supposed to record ALL dvb channels for 1 week, then you just choose the program and watch |
| [23:49:00] | Juski: | you seen the presentation? it's on the interweb thingy somewhere |
| [23:49:00] | riksta: | http://promise.tv/presentations.html |
| [23:49:00] | Juski: | that'll be it then |
| [23:49:00] | riksta: | nothing |
| [23:50:00] | Juski: | I expect they nicked a lot of code from some open source PVR or other |
| [23:50:00] | riksta: | i doubt it |
| [23:50:00] | _willcooke_: | I expect that when the V C runs out of cash, or they get bought out by Sky that'll be the end of it |
| [23:51:00] | Juski: | have you heard the one about $ky patenting a method of showing you adverts while you skip the adverts? |
| [23:51:00] | Juski: | oh how I laughed |
| [23:51:00] | _willcooke_: | WHAT? |
| [23:51:00] | riksta: | hahaha |
| [23:51:00] | riksta: | crack heads |
| [23:51:00] | Juski: | maybe they're just gonna use that patent to get one over on Tivo though |
| [23:52:00] | riksta: | http://promise.tv/opentech2005.html look at the last pic |
| [23:52:00] | _willcooke_: | I saw that thing about all HD TV's having to adhere to some "flag" that wont allow you to watch "backups" of your HD recordings |
| [23:52:00] | _willcooke_: | ricksta, looks familiart |
| [23:53:00] | FunkyELF: | Juski, I have user jobs that say they're finished and they finished a couple hours ago |
| [23:54:00] | riksta: | _willcooke_, do you reckon you could make one of those cables that i showed you with the audio plug too, if i pay ya? |
| [23:54:00] | _willcooke_: | ha! That picture at the bottom is clearly a pc with a shed load of sata discs and a load of dvb-t cards linked via the rf in rf out thing |
| [23:54:00] | Juski: | FunkyELF: in that case I dunno.. but my finished jobs tend to vanish when I go out of the status page & later go back into it |
| [23:54:00] | riksta: | _willcooke_, yes :) |
| [23:54:00] | riksta: | _willcooke_, you mean the "broadcast flag" |
| [23:54:00] | FunkyELF: | anyone here use the myth2ipod script for their video iPod ? |
| [23:54:00] | Juski: | you should see the presentation video... it looks very swish |
| [23:55:00] | riksta: | FunkyELF, i suggest posting to the users list |
| [23:55:00] | Juski: | saw my mate's Ipod photo the other day.. man now that's what I call a user interface.. not sure about the scrollywheel doing it's own thang but hey |
| [23:56:00] | _willcooke_: | riksta , yes that's it, the broadcast flag. I can do you a vga to rgb scart, the one with about 4 components that other is more Juski's bag |
| [23:56:00] | riksta: | Juski, oh yeah too right, it's award winning |
| [23:56:00] | ** _willcooke_ was supprised by the quality of the screen ** | |
| [23:56:00] | riksta: | _willcooke_, i need the sound too :s |
| [23:57:00] | _willcooke_: | riksta, sound is easy. You stick a 3.5mm "headphone" jack on the pc end and then wire that in to the scart socket. |
| [23:57:00] | Juski: | riksta: I'm gonna have a go at making the advanced adapter.. |
| [23:57:00] | riksta: | _willcooke_, yeah |
| [23:57:00] | riksta: | Juski, cool, ill check back on both of you :) |
| [23:57:00] | Juski: | I wonder where that guy had his PCBs made |
| [23:57:00] | riksta: | do you make PCBs? |
| [23:57:00] | riksta: | i remember making one years ago at school |
| [23:57:00] | riksta: | in some acid bath or something |
| [23:57:00] | _willcooke_: | a bit more advanced than my a-level UV transfers |
| [23:58:00] | _willcooke_: | riksta, thats the fella |
| [23:58:00] | riksta: | was kinda fun |
| [23:58:00] | Juski: | yeh but this guy's is double-sided – and they is a beeatch to do at home |
| [23:58:00] | riksta: | i bet |
| [23:58:00] | ** _willcooke_ made a IR 9k6 data transfer module for a level electronics. ** | |
| [23:59:00] | riksta: | i made a cd rack |
| [23:59:00] | riksta: | for gcse ;) |
| [23:59:00] | _willcooke_: | I robbed the whole lot from a magazine |
| [23:59:00] | Juski: | for my Btec diploma I made an 8 channel disco lighting controller |
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