| Wednesday, December 28th, 2005, 00:02 UTC | ||
| [00:02:00] | Juski: | wasabi_: if you want to grab satellite HDTV there's no solution yet – and there probably won't ever be |
| [00:03:00] | wasabi_: | So you can't use Myth with it? |
| [00:03:00] | Cromz: | heh I don't do dish. to many issues when I tried it. |
| [00:03:00] | wasabi_: | =( |
| [00:03:00] | Juski: | not HD anyway |
| [00:03:00] | wasabi_: | That sucks. |
| [00:03:00] | Juski: | and nothing else can do it either |
| [00:03:00] | wasabi_: | I assume though a DVI-in, would work, in theory. |
| [00:03:00] | Juski: | not open source, nor Windows based |
| [00:03:00] | wasabi_: | If there was such a thing. ;) |
| [00:03:00] | psofa: | can someone tell me how do i import from channels.conf in mythtv svn? All that it does is add the channels as channel names and nothing else.It doesnt add any frequency information. |
| [00:04:00] | Juski: | wasabi_: I doubt it, what with the DMCA and so on |
| [00:04:00] | Juski: | you'd need to buy a 'pro' card (if there was such a thing) and they ain't gonna be cheap by any stretch of the imagination |
| [00:05:00] | Juski: | the days of being able to record what you like are soon going to be over my friend. read the blurbs on eff.org |
| [00:06:00] | phoner: | anyone know why for some time now with cvs myth will lockup when skipping through a show |
| [00:07:00] | phoner: | first few times might be ok, but always locks up after a few skips forward |
| [00:07:00] | phoner: | fasforward works fine though |
| [00:09:00] | Juski: | phoner: if you're using svn you should already be expecting issues, and should report any problems you have (or at least ask) on the dev mailing list |
| [00:09:00] | phoner: | yea, I'm not certain it's svn though |
| [00:09:00] | psofa: | is someone here? Is there any other way to install dvb-s channels other than using the buildin channel scanner? |
| [00:10:00] | psofa: | for example import a channel list from dvbscan? |
| [00:11:00] | Juski: | psofa: yes in the svn, so I saw someone say today |
| [00:11:00] | psofa: | im probably the one that said it |
| [00:11:00] | psofa: | but it seems that its not working |
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| [00:11:00] | psofa: | as i said it just add the channel names but not any actual frequency info |
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| [00:12:00] | Juski: | ah |
| [00:12:00] | Juski: | dvb stuff is stored in the DB as follows: |
| [00:13:00] | Juski: | you have a number of transports which contain a number of channels |
| [00:13:00] | Juski: | each channel has a 'service ID' |
| [00:13:00] | Juski: | you could prolly mangle some SQL to put channels in yourself |
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| [00:15:00] | psofa: | can you tell me where in the database are the transports stored? |
| [00:15:00] | Juski: | anyway what's wrong with the builtin scanner? works okay for me |
| [00:15:00] | Juski: | in the table dtv_multiplex |
| [00:16:00] | psofa: | if the builtin detects 200 channels |
| [00:16:00] | psofa: | the dvbscan detects 1000 |
| [00:16:00] | Juski: | psofa: how many of those 1000 are unencrypted _tv_ channels though? |
| [00:17:00] | afrosheenix: | has anyone had trouble with snes weirdness |
| [00:17:00] | psofa: | it doesnt detect many freetoair channels |
| [00:17:00] | psofa: | for example MTV 5 |
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| [00:17:00] | Kabutor: | afrosheenix, wich snes emulator are you using? |
| [00:17:00] | Juski: | psofa: maybe it's one to bring up on the mailing list. you're more likely to get a good answer there I think |
| [00:18:00] | afrosheenix: | zsnes |
| [00:18:00] | psofa: | hmm |
| [00:18:00] | Kabutor: | Im having troubles setting zsnes to full screen, ATIs driver fault I think :( the rest seems to work fine |
| [00:18:00] | afrosheenix: | mythgame sees the roms, tries to open but zsnes opens fullscreen at the menu select screen and throttles the cpu to 98% |
| [00:18:00] | psofa: | i think i see whats wrong |
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| [00:18:00] | psofa: | the freq and symbolrate uints are wrong |
| [00:19:00] | psofa: | it sayd symbolrate 27500 while its 27500000 |
| [00:19:00] | psofa: | *says |
| [00:19:00] | Kabutor: | that sound like a driver issue, wich video card / driver are you using? |
| [00:19:00] | psofa: | nice mysql fun |
| [00:19:00] | Kabutor: | take note that Im a total newbie anayway |
| [00:20:00] | afrosheenix: | Kabutor: nvidia drivers..everything else works perfect including XVmC |
| [00:20:00] | thechris: | i need to improve the video quality of a pvr350, any suggestions? |
| [00:21:00] | afrosheenix: | wonder if it's trying to pick a resolution I don't have defined or something oddball like that |
| [00:21:00] | mishehu: | bah |
| [00:21:00] | Kabutor: | Ive no idea, but try changing the resolution and play with the 2x smooth options disable them.. |
| [00:21:00] | afrosheenix: | yeah coz I turned the smoothing on first :( |
| [00:21:00] | Kabutor: | I cant setup to fullscreen because of ATIs drivers so.. :( |
| [00:22:00] | mishehu: | eiggirC: bah, phone calls mess up concentration. anyway, dma is enabled on the system, load average is rather low (pvr250 has hardware encoding on the card) |
| [00:22:00] | Kabutor: | can anyone recommend a gun for the mame games? like time crisis and so? |
| [00:22:00] | mishehu: | stereo is hooked up to computer via sblive spdif out |
| [00:22:00] | Kabutor: | Im thinking on trying with snes9x, but looks like they have some problem with fullscreen |
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| [00:24:00] | psofa: | Juski, then how is it possible that i have 685 channels and only 65 or somthing rows in dvt_multiplex? |
| [00:25:00] | psofa: | and if its because the transponders are less than the channels how two channels on the same transponder differ in the database |
| [00:25:00] | hari_seldon99: | HI, I have a really wierd problem with my mythtv box |
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| [00:25:00] | phoner: | don't we all |
| [00:25:00] | hari_seldon99: | I can't disable commercial skipping for some odd reason and was hoping for some advice in figuring out what's wrong |
| [00:25:00] | psofa: | :P |
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| [00:27:00] | darkbyte: | I have a G400 DH and would to use XdirectFB in my Monitor, and runing Mythtv or mplayer in the TV-out at same time, but i can't find how to do it at the same time... anyone has this hardware config ? |
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| [00:27:00] | hari_seldon99: | I deselected it in the playback menu, but it still seems to skip past commercials, which would be fine were it not for the occasional false positive flagged by mythcommflag |
| [00:28:00] | hari_seldon99: | I looked at my frontend setup, & it seems ok vis a vis commflagging and default skipping |
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| [00:29:00] | Azariah: | I have a mythbox that captures video, flags commercials then transcodes...I need to remove commercials. I have added |
| [00:29:00] | Azariah: | the two following lines into user jobs. I think it will copy the commflag list into the cut list then transcode deleting |
| [00:29:00] | Azariah: | the commercials....I will know tomorrow but does anyone see a problem? |
| [00:29:00] | Azariah: | mythcommflag --chanid %CHANID% --starttime %STARTTIME% --gencutlist |
| [00:29:00] | Azariah: | mythtranscode --chanid %CHANID% --starttime %STARTTIME% --profile autodetect --honorcutlist --fifodir |
| [00:29:00] | psofa: | praet, are you around? |
| [00:29:00] | psofa: | do you know how can i multiply all fields of a column by 1000? |
| [00:30:00] | darkbyte: | Anyone can help with a G400 DH TV-out setup using Directfb ??? |
| [00:32:00] | praet: | psofa yea |
| [00:32:00] | praet: | psofa Update channel SET channum=channum*1000; |
| [00:32:00] | psofa: | nice |
| [00:33:00] | psofa: | if i only knew it was C-like |
| [00:33:00] | psofa: | :( |
| [00:33:00] | psofa: | praet, thanks a lot man |
| [00:33:00] | psofa: | uve been really helpfull |
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| [00:33:00] | praet: | if you want to add then use "+" |
| [00:33:00] | psofa: | ye ye sure |
| [00:33:00] | psofa: | :) |
| [00:33:00] | praet: | doh my machine just slowed to a crawl |
| [00:34:00] | hari_seldon99: | ok, I've uploaded screenshots of my default commercial flag/skip settings at http://www.ph.utexas.edu/~daneel/wierdness.html |
| [00:34:00] | praet: | np man others here helped me so |
| [00:34:00] | praet: | i've stuck around :) |
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| [00:36:00] | hari_seldon99: | everything seems fine, yet whenever I select Commercial Skip OFF in the playback menu, the commercials skip anyways |
| [00:37:00] | hari_seldon99: | This happens in all frontends (both in my PVR and in remote frontends) |
| [00:37:00] | praet: | hari_seldon99 run mythfrontend from a terminal, play a recording, turn off auto skip and then check the terminal for any messages |
| [00:37:00] | hari_seldon99: | ok |
| [00:38:00] | hari_seldon99: | I'll pastebin it |
| [00:38:00] | Slurpee`: | praet is the man! |
| [00:38:00] | praet: | Slurpee` get back to work ! |
| [00:39:00] | praet: | hey Slurpee` did you end up getting the pvr150? |
| [00:40:00] | _diZZ_: | Any ppc dudes awake? |
| [00:40:00] | psofa: | where in the C code does the import channel.conf reside? |
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| [00:41:00] | bdina: | anyone have any experience with Myth on a Shuttle Xen PC? |
| [00:41:00] | hari_seldon99: | ok, here are the console messages for mythfrontend while playing back a recording to a cut point while commskip is turned OFF (and it skips anyway:) http://pastebin.ca/35012 |
| [00:42:00] | Slurpee`: | praet, i got all of my hardware including the pvr150 |
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| [00:42:00] | Slurpee`: | going to thermal goo my cpu tonite and the box should be finished |
| [00:42:00] | bdina: | I am having problems with an ATi 9100 IGP and TV-out |
| [00:42:00] | praet: | excellent |
| [00:42:00] | Slurpee`: | then i gota setup debian and myhtv |
| [00:42:00] | hari_seldon99: | any ideas why this is happening? |
| [00:45:00] | bdina: | I need to stretch the output to my TV so that it is full screen |
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| [00:48:00] | praet: | hari_seldon99 no help from the pastebin, maybe you could stop the backend, and run that from a terminal as well.. however it looks like the autoskip flag is set in memory, and not to the database.. |
| [00:48:00] | praet: | bdina look up how to set up overscan |
| [00:49:00] | hari_seldon99: | ok, I'll do that |
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| [00:49:00] | bdina: | awesome — thanks |
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| [00:52:00] | hari_seldon99: | ok, here's the backend terminal output upto the commercial cut point: http://pastebin.ca/35014 |
| [00:54:00] | bdina: | does not look like the ATi 9100 IGP overscan can be adjusted under Linux |
| [00:54:00] | praet: | hari_seldon99 try playback on the frontend and then change autoskip to off and then paste again |
| [00:55:00] | hari_seldon99: | paste the rontend output or the backend? |
| [00:55:00] | praet: | bdina what driver are you using? |
| [00:55:00] | praet: | backend |
| [00:55:00] | hari_seldon99: | that's what I did in http://pastebin.ca/35014 |
| [00:56:00] | praet: | hrmm it doesnt reveal anything strange |
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| [00:56:00] | hari_seldon99: | you mentioned that it might be set in memory |
| [00:56:00] | praet: | hari_seldon99 have you tried turning it off as default |
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| [00:56:00] | hari_seldon99: | yes |
| [00:56:00] | bdina: | ATi binary 8.20.8 |
| [00:56:00] | hari_seldon99: | I tried that in the mythfrontend setup, no go |
| [00:57:00] | praet: | it gets the initial setting from db, then in playback changes are saved in frontend memory |
| [00:57:00] | hari_seldon99: | setup->tv settings->Playback->Automatically skip commercials set to OFF, no change |
| [00:58:00] | praet: | when you start playing is the auto skip on or off |
| [00:58:00] | hari_seldon99: | shuld I change it to 'off' then restart the backend to flush the memory or something? |
| [00:58:00] | poop: | alright, level 5 in WoW |
| [00:59:00] | hari_seldon99: | when I played just now, the autoskip was on in the mythfrontend setup, but off in the OSD menu |
| [00:59:00] | praet: | bdina check your xorg.conf for tv-out and see if adding TVHSizeAdj TVVSizeAdj makes any difference |
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| [01:00:00] | praet: | hari_seldon99 so it did not stay "off" when you played a recording |
| [01:00:00] | hari_seldon99: | right |
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| [01:01:00] | praet: | strange. id post about it in the mailing list and see if someone has any ideas.. |
| [01:02:00] | bdina: | I have made those adjustments — here is a snippet # === TV-out Management === |
| [01:02:00] | bdina: | Option "NoTV" "no" |
| [01:02:00] | bdina: | Option "TVStandard" "NTSC-M" |
| [01:02:00] | bdina: | Option "TVHSizeAdj" "10" |
| [01:02:00] | bdina: | Option "TVVSizeAdj" "20" |
| [01:02:00] | bdina: | Option "TVHPosAdj" "10" |
| [01:02:00] | hari_seldon99: | ok, I'll do that |
| [01:02:00] | bdina: | Option "TVVPosAdj" "10" |
| [01:02:00] | bdina: | Option "TVHStartAdj" "10" |
| [01:02:00] | bdina: | Option "TVColorAdj" "10" |
| [01:02:00] | bdina: | Option "GammaCorrectionI" "0x00000000" |
| [01:02:00] | bdina: | Option "GammaCorrectionII" "0x00000000" |
| [01:02:00] | laga: | thanks for flooding! |
| [01:03:00] | praet: | sorry coulndt help further but it gets into hairy code at that point.. i would look into verifying that the database is getting the values right and see if changing it by hand makes any difference |
| [01:03:00] | praet: | lol |
| [01:04:00] | Fitzsimmons: | bdina: is that your xorg.conf? |
| [01:04:00] | bdina: | yeah |
| [01:04:00] | praet: | bdina got to leave now but play with those settings and see if it helps any.. note if you get X the right size you can modify the menu/playback size/location in the settings |
| [01:04:00] | Fitzsimmons: | hm, is that card independent? |
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| [01:13:00] | robbinsc: | can anyone help me with a weird mysql problem? I'm getting all kinds of errors about drivers, and stupid mysql won't remember to use mythconverg |
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| [01:14:00] | hd420: | I'm trying to use python to get shows off my replayTV... any advice on how to do this? |
| [01:19:00] | poop: | It's much easier in erlang. |
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| [01:34:00] | thechris: | so if i install ati-gatos, do i have to set up anything? there doesn't seem to be any documentation. |
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| [01:43:00] | poop: | any documentation for what? |
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| [01:46:00] | pointer: | anyone alive? |
| [01:48:00] | Juski: | pointer: someone said something about ATI something or other & everybody switched off |
| [01:48:00] | Juski: | well _I_ did anyway ;-) |
| [01:48:00] | pointer: | heh |
| [01:48:00] | pointer: | ok |
| [01:48:00] | pointer: | well, I think my problem may be a via chipset |
| [01:49:00] | pointer: | but I have 2 PVR-500MCE's in a box... |
| [01:49:00] | Juski: | pointer: much fuss is mistakenly made of via chipsets |
| [01:49:00] | pointer: | and anytime I try to tune more than 1 channel the box reboots |
| [01:49:00] | pointer: | 2.6.14.3 w/0.4.1 |
| [01:50:00] | Juski: | ah..maybe pci timing related after all, or possibly ivtv |
| [01:50:00] | pointer: | Juski: any suggestion on how to fix it? |
| [01:50:00] | Juski: | card shuffling probably won't help much. is the motherboard a recent-ish one? |
| [01:51:00] | pointer: | ivtv0: Unreasonably low latency timer, setting to 64 (was 32) |
| [01:51:00] | pointer: | it's some cheap biostar board I got off of compgeeks |
| [01:51:00] | Juski: | there's been hard evidence of via chipset issues with hauppauge cards apparently |
| [01:51:00] | pointer: | with an XP2600 in it |
| [01:51:00] | pointer: | I thought I'd read some stuff |
| [01:51:00] | Juski: | updating the BIOS might help |
| [01:51:00] | pointer: | hrm...ok |
| [01:52:00] | Juski: | cheap mobos are never good anyway |
| [01:52:00] | Juski: | I mean yeah they _work_ but... |
| [01:52:00] | pointer: | heh, yeah |
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| [02:31:00] | \Grooby\_: | pointer, I dunno if you are still around...have you move the cards to a different PCI slots? maybe that might help |
| [02:31:00] | Slurpee`: | you grooby |
| [02:32:00] | \Grooby\_: | hi slurpee |
| [02:32:00] | \Grooby\_: | asked my GF for a harmony 880 for belated xmas gift |
| [02:32:00] | \Grooby\_: | i hope it would work with mythtv |
| [02:33:00] | \Grooby\_: | (mailing list research said so) |
| [02:33:00] | Slurpee`: | whatd your gf get |
| [02:33:00] | Slurpee`: | u orginally |
| [02:33:00] | Slurpee`: | a bad gift ? |
| [02:33:00] | \Grooby\_: | nothing |
| [02:33:00] | \Grooby\_: | lol |
| [02:33:00] | \Grooby\_: | i got her a razr V3 |
| [02:33:00] | \Grooby\_: | and she didn't really get me anything |
| [02:34:00] | Slurpee`: | i didnt my gfs gift yet |
| [02:34:00] | Slurpee`: | she left it at our place |
| [02:34:00] | Slurpee`: | and we were outa town for a few days n just got home last nite |
| [02:34:00] | \Grooby\_: | ahhh ok |
| [02:34:00] | Slurpee`: | ill have to open it tonite ;/ |
| [02:34:00] | hd420: | my ex bought me a paper clip holder ol |
| [02:34:00] | hd420: | lol |
| [02:34:00] | \Grooby\_: | tell her the working mythtv is her xmas gift |
| [02:34:00] | \Grooby\_: | hehehe |
| [02:34:00] | \Grooby\_: | hd420...what did you get her? pins? |
| [02:35:00] | hd420: | Grooby: no, we broke up before Christmas |
| [02:35:00] | \Grooby\_: | doh! |
| [02:35:00] | \Grooby\_: | that sucks |
| [02:35:00] | hd420: | heh |
| [02:35:00] | \Grooby\_: | well..or good |
| [02:35:00] | \Grooby\_: | depends on the situation I guess |
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| [03:07:00] | pointer: | I'm still around |
| [03:07:00] | pointer: | I don't have many options |
| [03:07:00] | pointer: | this box only has 3 pci slots |
| [03:07:00] | pointer: | and the 3rd is occupied by a 3ware 7500 |
| [03:07:00] | pointer: | I'm going to try another MB I have |
| [03:08:00] | pointer: | A7M-266D |
| [03:09:00] | pointer: | the asus board has 2 64bit pci slots too...so that might help the disk io a bit w/the 3ware |
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| [03:20:00] | wasabi: | So this here MyHD card... has QAM input. |
| [03:20:00] | wasabi: | Do any of these satilite receivers have QAM output? |
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| [03:32:00] | Slurpee`: | anybody have any good tips or tricks or words of wisdom for my first cpu thermal compound ? |
| [03:32:00] | Fitzsimmons: | don't use too much |
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| [03:32:00] | Fitzsimmons: | it hardly takes any at all to do what you need it to do |
| [03:32:00] | Fitzsimmons: | try to spread it evenly |
| [03:33:00] | dmz: | hey y'all, if I move a pvr350 mpeg encoded nuv into my Video files directory to save space in my recordings...is there any easy way to have it play the video with the nuvplayer so I can jump around in it like I do a normal recording and don't have to deal with xing only having fast forward & rewind?? |
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| [03:36:00] | Slurpee`: | damnit sorry, workstation crashed |
| [03:36:00] | Slurpee`: | so what happens if i use too much compound ? |
| [03:36:00] | xris: | Slurpee`: it gets messy |
| [03:37:00] | xris: | can get bubbles, too.. and not work so well |
| [03:37:00] | Fitzsimmons: | bubbles eh? |
| [03:37:00] | Fitzsimmons: | I've never had bubbles in mine |
| [03:37:00] | kormoc: | well |
| [03:37:00] | xris: | spreading with a razor blade works best |
| [03:37:00] | kormoc: | too much compound actually acts like a insilator, and will raise heat |
| [03:37:00] | Fitzsimmons: | some people say that, I actually find an old credit card or the like also works well |
| [03:38:00] | Fitzsimmons: | something with that general size and plyability – but something that you don't mind getting dirty |
| [03:38:00] | xris: | Fitzsimmons: work with what you have, I guess.. I've probably applied it to about 500 machines with a razor blade.. you get the hang of it pretty quickly |
| [03:38:00] | Fitzsimmons: | good point |
| [03:39:00] | xris: | s/machines/procs/ (forgot the dual proc boxes) |
| [03:39:00] | Fitzsimmons: | I've never had a razor blade with me |
| [03:39:00] | Fitzsimmons: | whip out my wallet... "now which one of these don't I need?" :P |
| [03:39:00] | xris: | heh |
| [03:40:00] | xris: | yeah. well, working for a systems integrator... tend to have stacks of them around specifically for applying thermal grease. (and opening boxes) |
| [03:40:00] | Fitzsimmons: | I'm just an enthusiast |
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| [03:41:00] | kormoc: | I'm an enthusiast that works for a systems integrator |
| [03:42:00] | xris: | kormoc: I really think that everyone at simech should be made to spend a week or two building boxes. |
| [03:43:00] | kormoc: | Yeah, I wouldn't mind it and I'd learn a lot likely. |
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| [03:43:00] | Chutt: | the last 3 or 4 heatsinks i've bought already had a thin layer of compound (not the thermal tape crap) on them |
| [03:43:00] | xris: | Chutt: interesting |
| [03:43:00] | xris: | kormoc: too bad I can't spare you. heh |
| [03:44:00] | Chutt: | most recent being the stock amd heatsink |
| [03:44:00] | xris: | thought they all just used that tape stuff these days |
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| [03:44:00] | kormoc: | Maybe amd made their specs to be non-thermal tape |
| [03:45:00] | xris: | well, except for the server stuff... but that's because our heatsinks come with the chassis, not the proc (we toss/recycle those) |
| [03:45:00] | kormoc: | xris, well, maybe we'll run out of tickets in a year or five and then I could! |
| [03:45:00] | Chutt: | i really liked the stock amd heatsink i got with my x2 4400 |
| [03:45:00] | Chutt: | copper bottom, heatpipes |
| [03:45:00] | xris: | kormoc: hah, you're funny |
| [03:45:00] | xris: | Chutt: yeah, a lot of things are moving that way |
| [03:45:00] | Chutt: | yeah, aftermarket |
| [03:46:00] | Chutt: | but this came with the proc, i was surprised =) |
| [03:46:00] | xris: | even seen some weird stuff for 1u's with heat pipes |
| [03:46:00] | xris: | nothing in production,though |
| [03:46:00] | Chutt: | i was expecting some lameass aluminim crap with a really loud fan |
| [03:47:00] | xris: | like the ones in my box. heh |
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| [03:48:00] | Slurpee`: | i just got a sempron 2800+ 64 bit |
| [03:48:00] | ** xris remembers to put on his wrist brace when typing ** | |
| [03:48:00] | Moodles: | I'm running mplayer on a dvbstream, but after a random ammount of time, I still get picture, but loose sound, I dont get sound back until I load mplayer again (same prob with xine) |
| [03:48:00] | thechris: | what is everyone using for tvout? |
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| [03:48:00] | Slurpee`: | that comes with compound ? |
| [03:48:00] | kormoc: | thechris, a nvidia card, when I do tv out |
| [03:49:00] | xris: | Slurpee`: retain proc should come with a little packet of compound, or more likely a bit of thermal tape stuck to the bottom of the included heatsink |
| [03:49:00] | thechris: | kormoc: is that supported by the nvida module? or nvtv? |
| [03:49:00] | kormoc: | nvidia module |
| [03:49:00] | Fitzsimmons: | thechris: 9250 with DVI out |
| [03:49:00] | Slurpee`: | xris, should i still add artic silver 5 ? |
| [03:50:00] | thechris: | will any DVI work with TV? |
| [03:50:00] | xris: | Slurpee`: to the tape? |
| [03:50:00] | `Matir: | I'm designing a mythtv system, but am having a hard time selecting a processor. At an absolute minimum, i want to record one channel and view another simultaneously (or record two). I know I'll need two tuners (most likely going to use PVR-250s), but what kind of CPU would work ideally? |
| [03:50:00] | Fitzsimmons: | thechris: it'll work with some HD TVs |
| [03:50:00] | xris: | anyone here happen to have the address of the bbc tv web streams? |
| [03:50:00] | Slurpee`: | xris, i never saw any of the tape .... |
| [03:51:00] | xris: | `Matir: probably anything you buy new will be enough.. 2Ghz is min for hdtv |
| [03:51:00] | thechris: | right now i have a s3 savage 2000 (issues with xvideo so no mpeg playback...) and ati (no idea what to do with gatos) |
| [03:52:00] | xris: | Slurpee`: if no tape or grease, then yes, apply some |
| [03:52:00] | thechris: | i wonder what the cheapest nvida card is nowdays |
| [03:52:00] | darkdrgn2k: | any one ever hear of "REAL MAGIC" |
| [03:52:00] | `Matir: | xris: i was debating whether or not to just do AMD64 or something dual core (Pentium D, A64-X2) |
| [03:52:00] | ** xris is assuming that arctic silver is thermal grease. ** | |
| [03:52:00] | kormoc: | it is |
| [03:52:00] | Fitzsimmons: | not really a grease |
| [03:52:00] | Fitzsimmons: | more of a paste |
| [03:52:00] | Fitzsimmons: | or a compound |
| [03:52:00] | darkdrgn2k: | "EM8300 MPEG Decoder" |
| [03:52:00] | darkdrgn2k: | should od tv out |
| [03:52:00] | Slurpee`: | but yes, it is a thermal compund |
| [03:52:00] | darkdrgn2k: | hey |
| [03:52:00] | xris: | `Matir: whatever you prefer.. either is overkill for just watching a single stream |
| [03:53:00] | darkdrgn2k: | any one know why when i use my Remote (came with the pvr150) the screen blinks blck for a second? |
| [03:53:00] | Slurpee`: | how can i tell if it came with the grease or not ? |
| [03:53:00] | xris: | you'd see a packet in the box? |
| [03:53:00] | `Matir: | xris: well, i want to both watch and record a second channel (or record 2 and playback from the drive) |
| [03:54:00] | darkdrgn2k: | `Matir: well the Encoding doesnt take to much processing power... if yu have a hardware encoder |
| [03:54:00] | xris: | right, but you said pvr-250 (150 would be cheaper/better, btw)... uses like 1% of cpu |
| [03:54:00] | darkdrgn2k: | `Matir: if you have a hardware decoder.. niether will playback |
| [03:54:00] | darkdrgn2k: | y is 150 better then 250? |
| [03:55:00] | xris: | darkdrgn2k: yes. esp. since they don't make the 250 anymore |
| [03:55:00] | xris: | but it supposedly has a better chroma filter or something like that. |
| [03:55:00] | `Matir: | hrrm, I'll look into that. |
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| [03:55:00] | `Matir: | what kind of hardware decoders are reccomended? |
| [03:56:00] | wasabi: | So there are such things as HDCP strippers? |
| [03:56:00] | darkdrgn2k: | xris: hey im not complainig. just baught a 250 :-D |
| [03:56:00] | darkdrgn2k: | uhh 150! |
| [03:56:00] | darkdrgn2k: | just bought a 150 |
| [03:56:00] | xris: | heh |
| [03:57:00] | darkdrgn2k: | works GREAT!!!! my tv wonder eats like 60% cpu to encode.. this card bearly breaks 5! |
| [03:57:00] | xris: | `Matir: none, imho |
| [03:57:00] | `Matir: | On newegg, there are like 4 different PVR-150s... yay |
| [03:57:00] | `Matir: | xris: why not? |
| [03:57:00] | Fitzsimmons: | anyone here a gentoo dev? |
| [03:57:00] | darkdrgn2k: | `Matir: for one the decoders only do MPEG1 and 2 |
| [03:58:00] | darkdrgn2k: | `Matir: no divx or mpeg4 |
| [03:58:00] | xris: | `Matir: pvr-350 ONLY decodes mpeg2... so like darkdrgn2k said, you'll only see recordings... no avi movies or anything like that. |
| [03:59:00] | xris: | it's not worth it now that fast procs are so cheap |
| [03:59:00] | thechris: | oh, that reminds me. |
| [03:59:00] | `Matir: | gotcha |
| [03:59:00] | thechris: | pvr350 should have good picture quality right? |
| [03:59:00] | `Matir: | darkdrgn2k, which pvr-150 did you get? |
| [03:59:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Right now im installing an "EM8300 MPEG Decoder" just cause it supports video out |
| [03:59:00] | darkdrgn2k: | `Matir: i got the 150 Retail.. |
| [03:59:00] | darkdrgn2k: | `Matir: not the MCE |
| [03:59:00] | xris: | thechris: should, yes |
| [03:59:00] | `Matir: | what is MCE? |
| [03:59:00] | darkdrgn2k: | `Matir: its got only TV (no FM) |
| [04:00:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Microsoft Somethign Edition |
| [04:00:00] | darkdrgn2k: | its got a FM tuner on it |
| [04:00:00] | thechris: | `Matir: media center edition = mce |
| [04:00:00] | `Matir: | ah |
| [04:00:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Thast it! |
| [04:00:00] | `Matir: | so this thing: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815116625 |
| [04:00:00] | thechris: | `Matir: it comes with a remote and tv application, so the manufacture's don't bundel it with the card |
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| [04:01:00] | thechris: | hmm any reason my dad's pvr350 has poor image quality? |
| [04:01:00] | thechris: | any ideas? |
| [04:01:00] | xris: | thechris: in or out? |
| [04:02:00] | thechris: | in |
| [04:02:00] | thechris: | haven't got a chance to try the tv out |
| [04:03:00] | kormoc: | bad signal strength, bad wires, etc? |
| [04:03:00] | `Matir: | What kind of graphics cards work best? I know that's a subjective question, but most of what I know of graphics cards is 3d performance oriented. |
| [04:03:00] | xris: | thechris: or maybe just too-low bitrate |
| [04:03:00] | thechris: | that's what i'm thining. there is rg6 to the tuner, but there is a splitter before it |
| [04:03:00] | xris: | `Matir: nvidia has the best linux drivers |
| [04:04:00] | xris: | geforce4 or better for tv out.. doesn't take much horsepower |
| [04:04:00] | thechris: | any idea on the video out quality for a geforce mx4000? |
| [04:05:00] | wasabi: | So we need some HDCP cracking software, heh. |
| [04:05:00] | darkdrgn2k: | thast the one i havce |
| [04:06:00] | `Matir: | hrrm |
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| [04:06:00] | `Matir: | so many choices :) |
| [04:07:00] | thechris: | darkdrgn2k: you say you got a EM8300 decoder? hows that working? |
| [04:07:00] | xris: | anyone here know anything about the BBC web streams? pondering figuring out a way to script grabbing of certain programs. would make a great myth plugin. but I lost the URL |
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| [04:15:00] | Kelerion: | xris.. are those web streams the news ones? |
| [04:15:00] | dtm: | hello all. does anyone here use a USB 1.1 compatible video input on linux? i'm shopping for one, ideally to work on a 233 MHz G3 powerbook. |
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| [04:21:00] | dtm: | the only ones i've found are the Pinnacle Bungee and the Hauppauge WinTV USB. but i can't ascertain whether they work in a DVR context. |
| [04:21:00] | `Matir: | Anyone here have success with an FX5200? |
| [04:21:00] | kormoc: | `Matir, I run a 5200 |
| [04:21:00] | `Matir: | work well? |
| [04:22:00] | dtm: | i suppose another way to ask it, would be .. can mythtv accept a special file as its video device and change the channel using an external script, or does it require v4l? |
| [04:22:00] | kormoc: | yup |
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| [04:22:00] | kormoc: | dtm, it supports bttv, ivtv, and dbv cardd |
| [04:22:00] | kormoc: | *cards |
| [04:23:00] | kormoc: | dtm, and yes, the channel change can be done via a script, as that's how most ir blasters work |
| [04:24:00] | dtm: | have you guys used Pinnacle PCTV Pro? |
| [04:24:00] | dtm: | kormoc: oic |
| [04:24:00] | dtm: | kormoc: sorry i have some cluebie questions simply becasue i am shopping for the hardware, i have never used a DVR, and because i've barely used v4l once years ago |
| [04:24:00] | dtm: | ;] |
| [04:25:00] | kormoc: | dtm, for hardware, get a pvr 150 rather then a bttv card, it's well worth the extra in lack of problems and clearer picture |
| [04:28:00] | dtm: | kormoc: pvr150 doesn't seem to come in USB. but i just found that the WinTV PVR USB2 is compatible with USB 1.1. |
| [04:28:00] | kormoc: | any preticular reason for usb? |
| [04:29:00] | dtm: | kormoc: the pvr usb2 seems to work according to http://www.isely.net/pvrusb2.html |
| [04:29:00] | dtm: | kormoc: because it's best and because it's for a laptop |
| [04:29:00] | kormoc: | it's best? |
| [04:29:00] | `Matir: | I still can't decide on a CPU, lol. |
| [04:29:00] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [04:30:00] | kormoc: | as for being for a laptop, are you going to be disconnecting the latop from the connection? |
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| [04:30:00] | kormoc: | `Matir, almost any cpu will work |
| [04:30:00] | dtm: | kormoc: what do you mean by that? disconnecting it ever? not if i can help it :) |
| [04:31:00] | kormoc: | dtm, well, some people have tried to run myth on laptops and just unplug them when they go out with their laptops and wonder why myth isn't recording or similar |
| [04:31:00] | dtm: | kormoc: *boggle* lol ok |
| [04:31:00] | dtm: | kormoc: thanks for the warning lol |
| [04:32:00] | `Matir: | I'd guess I need about 2.8 GHz? |
| [04:32:00] | kormoc: | dtm, as for the best usb tuner, I beleive it's pixelview who makes a mpeg-4 hardware usb encoder and I beleive Chutt has one and it works |
| [04:32:00] | kormoc: | `Matir, for what? |
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| [04:33:00] | dtm: | kormoc: the only concerns i have are that it'll work on ppc linux (endian safe and all that) and that it won't blow away a 233 MHz G3 system with a 10Mbps ethernet, which i'll use just to record the raw stream and change the channels, then stream via NFS or whatever to a real computer which will do all the storage, playback, and archival re-encoding. |
| [04:33:00] | `Matir: | to be able to (in theory) record two streams and play a separate (third) stream from disk |
| [04:33:00] | kormoc: | dtm, excuse me, it's a plextor pvr |
| [04:33:00] | dtm: | kormoc: oic |
| [04:34:00] | kormoc: | dtm, as long as it's ppc safe, and a hardware encoder, it won't kill the box, imho |
| [04:34:00] | dtm: | kormoc: yeah ok. |
| [04:34:00] | kormoc: | `Matir, HDTV or SDTV? |
| [04:34:00] | dtm: | that's what i thought. the box should mainly be a passthrough devic.e |
| [04:34:00] | `Matir: | SDTV |
| [04:35:00] | kormoc: | `Matir, with a hardware encoder (pvr 500, or duel 150's or similar), and a decent video card (fx5200 would be fine), you could do that on a 800 mhz box |
| [04:35:00] | dtm: | kormoc: you probably aren't aware of anyone doing it on ppc huh? |
| [04:35:00] | kormoc: | dtm, no, sadly, I don't |
| [04:35:00] | dtm: | kormoc: doing any particular USB 1.1 input |
| [04:35:00] | `Matir: | really? maybe I'll cut back a bit on the CPU then so it'll be cooler/quieter. |
| [04:36:00] | kormoc: | `Matir, with my 5200 with xvmc, it's ~5–15% cpu to decode on my 2 ghz p4, and about 1 to 2% cpu to record |
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| [04:36:00] | `Matir: | nice |
| [04:37:00] | kormoc: | `Matir, and I have a m179 (rebranded pvr 250) |
| [04:37:00] | `Matir: | hrrm, it seems the pvr-500 is significantly cheaper than dual 150s... the pvr-500 is well-supported? |
| [04:37:00] | kormoc: | it's just as supported as a 150 |
| [04:37:00] | `Matir: | sweet |
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| [04:37:00] | iggy: | it is 2 150's on one pci card |
| [04:38:00] | `Matir: | although the only one on newegg is a MCE... shouldn't matter, right? |
| [04:38:00] | simcop2387: | wee i'm on my zaurus! |
| [04:38:00] | iggy: | `Matir: means it doesn't come with a remote (they assume you'll use the mce remote) |
| [04:39:00] | `Matir: | well, i was intending to get an LIRC-compatible IR receiver |
| [04:41:00] | dtm: | i wonder how many PVR USB devices have been daisy chained ;) |
| [04:41:00] | unkle: | Matir > you can get the ATI Remote Wonder at newegg if you dont have remote :) |
| [04:41:00] | unkle: | dtm > lol |
| [04:41:00] | dtm: | kormoc: mythtv has such an architecture as i described, right? where one system is the tuner/input which streams somehow to another for viewing and for lazy archival reencoding? |
| [04:42:00] | unkle: | dtm > sounds true to me |
| [04:42:00] | dtm: | unkle: k |
| [04:42:00] | dtm: | i thought i read that |
| [04:42:00] | kormoc: | yeah, the backend and the frontend are seperate programs and can be run on different boxes, but keep in mind, there is no windows frontend. |
| [04:42:00] | dtm: | well good for them, then. |
| [04:43:00] | unkle: | dtm you can see it as master(backend) and slave (front) |
| [04:43:00] | dtm: | i wonder if there's a particular USB input device which works well on both linux and macos10. |
| [04:43:00] | kormoc: | dtm, also, reencoding is usually done on the backend box, as it has access to all the files. Nuvexport is a really good program to reencode for archival |
| [04:43:00] | unkle: | kormoc but, theres also the transcoder, – right ? |
| [04:43:00] | kormoc: | dtm, you can also have multiple backends with multiple tuners all working together. |
| [04:43:00] | dtm: | kormoc: yeah i suppose i'd disable archival reencoding and do that manually. |
| [04:44:00] | kormoc: | unkle, sure, you can use that to reencode, but it's still stuck in myth |
| [04:45:00] | unkle: | kormoc right ...browsing the files on the backend i came across a dir called something like "pretty" which held all my .nuv files but in .mpg-versions. Do you know what theyre meant for ? |
| [04:46:00] | unkle: | kormoc > i mean, i cannot download them via the http-interface |
| [04:46:00] | kormoc: | unkle, it symlinks them in pretty names (xris wrote that script I beleive), it's there so windows boxes can just view them via media player or what not |
| [04:47:00] | unkle: | kormoc > oh ! ...thanks! |
| [04:47:00] | dtm: | ha someone on newegg.com says that they had three WinTV PVR USB2s go bad due to fan failure |
| [04:48:00] | unkle: | kormoc > ive tried making a vlc on a windowsbox work but i cant catch the stream (i must be using the wrong URL) ...anyway i guess thats what these "pretty" files are for then |
| [04:48:00] | kormoc: | unkle, yup, share them via samba, and it should just wor |
| [04:48:00] | kormoc: | k |
| [04:49:00] | unkle: | kormoc, i did, mounted the entire box via samba and thats how i trembled upon the dir |
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| [04:49:00] | unkle: | dtm, phew! thats bad, – my pvr350 gets quite hot too ! |
| [04:49:00] | `Matir: | does DDR2 give any boost over DDR? |
| [04:49:00] | kormoc: | `Matir, not for myth stuff |
| [04:50:00] | kormoc: | `Matir, actually, ddr2 is faster, but has a higher latency, so unless you are dealing with large admounts of data (game loading times), ddr2 can actually be slower then ddr. |
| [04:51:00] | `Matir: | ah... cool. I'm just hunting for my LGA775 mobo now :) |
| [04:52:00] | unkle: | ...waiting for prices on CN400 to drop ;) |
| [04:53:00] | dtm: | unkle: too hot to touch? |
| [04:53:00] | dtm: | unkle: i wonder if it'd help to put a small external fan over it ;) |
| [04:53:00] | unkle: | dtm, not quite, but getting there |
| [04:53:00] | dtm: | i suppose i'll boot up my ppc and try compiling all the drivers first before ordering. ;) |
| [04:54:00] | unkle: | dtm, thats very likely, but im hysteric regarding noise |
| [04:54:00] | dtm: | unkle: oic |
| [04:54:00] | unkle: | hehe |
| [04:55:00] | `Matir: | Anyone know anything about DFI motherboards? I've never heard of them before. |
| [04:55:00] | unkle: | cant say i do |
| [04:55:00] | dtm: | so the two tiered architecture of mythtv allows it to stream from the recorder to the player, while constantly truncating the stream so that it doesn't get infinitely big? |
| [04:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | dtm: In 0.18 it used a ringbuffer that would grow to a maximum size and no more |
| [04:56:00] | kormoc: | `Matir, they tend to be okay, just usually a tad most costly, as they are marketed towards gammers and so tend to have a lot of 'features' |
| [04:56:00] | dtm: | it'll pool, say, 2 hours' worth of live or recent video on my desktop system while truncating it? |
| [04:56:00] | unkle: | i believe the good guys at mythtv did their work to prevent buffer-overflow ;) |
| [04:56:00] | dtm: | GreyFoxx: ok |
| [04:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | but new in SVN there is no more ringbuffer, livetv is done like a chain of recordings |
| [04:57:00] | dtm: | so does that require an nfs client on the capture host and an nfs server on the playback host? can it do it like that? |
| [04:57:00] | `Matir: | kormoc, ok, so it's down to ASRock and EPoX |
| [04:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | withg livetv "recordings" getting expired before any other recording if dispace is required |
| [04:57:00] | dtm: | my capture host has minimal storage (2GB) and cpu (233MHz) |
| [04:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | dtm no, mythbackend can use it's own protocol to stream to the frontend |
| [04:57:00] | dtm: | GreyFoxx: ok. |
| [04:57:00] | dtm: | GreyFoxx: so it doesn't have to store anything on the capture host? |
| [04:57:00] | kormoc: | dtm, you can capture onto another computer via NFS or samba |
| [04:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes it does, the buffer/recording is stored there(or if you mount a remote NFS filesystem and write to that) |
| [04:58:00] | kormoc: | dtm, I capture to a NFS drive myself, and I have used samba in the past. |
| [04:58:00] | dtm: | ok. |
| [04:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | It has to be stored SOMEWHERE that is reachable by the backend |
| [04:58:00] | dtm: | ok i'll store it to an nfs server on my playback host then. |
| [04:59:00] | dtm: | plus my 2GB drive is going bad ;) |
| [04:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | Why not make that machine doing playback do the capture as well then ? |
| [04:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | since the data is being stored there anyway |
| [04:59:00] | dtm: | GreyFoxx: because the cable feed is across the building ;) |
| [04:59:00] | dtm: | cable tv feed |
| [05:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | I hope you ar eplanning to use a PVR type capture card |
| [05:01:00] | dtm: | yeah. |
| [05:01:00] | dtm: | i would like something better than a slide show ;) |
| [05:01:00] | kormoc: | dtm, this pvr card, is it hardware encoding or does it just have pvr in the name? |
| [05:01:00] | unkle: | dtm, ah come on ;) |
| [05:01:00] | dtm: | kormoc: hardware mpeg2 |
| [05:01:00] | kormoc: | kk |
| [05:01:00] | dtm: | WinTV PVR USB2 |
| [05:01:00] | dtm: | that's probably why the one reviewer said it got so hot ;) |
| [05:02:00] | iggy: | does that work in linux? |
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| [05:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | Do the pvr usb devices work? I've never actually seen one |
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| [05:02:00] | unkle: | dtm does that work with as mythtv backend ? |
| [05:02:00] | dtm: | iggy: yeah http://www.isely.net/pvrusb2.html |
| [05:02:00] | dtm: | unkle: i assume that any v4l device does, doesn't it? |
| [05:02:00] | `Matir: | anyone got a EPoX EP-5PDAJ mobo? |
| [05:03:00] | dtm: | s/assume/hope/ |
| [05:03:00] | unkle: | dtm, yes, but i havent explored the USB-approach to mythtv... my capturecard is PCI |
| [05:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | dtm: Well standard framegrabber v4l devices do, but I'm not sure about ones that feed mpeg data |
| [05:03:00] | Ripped_Ca: | when I use the frontend, what is the user account? (mythtv) the shell account or root ? |
| [05:03:00] | iggy: | funny thing about standards are there are so many to choose from |
| [05:04:00] | kormoc: | Ripped_Ca, frontend is the user you run it as |
| [05:04:00] | kormoc: | Ripped_Ca, in my case, kormoc |
| [05:04:00] | unkle: | GreyFoxx why not mpeg feeds ? ...isnt that what the PVR-xxx's do ? |
| [05:04:00] | kormoc: | unkle, sure, but they arn't V4L devices |
| [05:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | unkle: the PVR cards do send mpeg2 feeds, but not via the v4l api |
| [05:04:00] | iggy: | mpeg isn't standard in v4l specs |
| [05:04:00] | unkle: | kormoc, i see |
| [05:05:00] | Ripped_Ca: | do I have to create that user on the backend? all I created was a root account in mysql |
| [05:05:00] | unkle: | kormoc, i thought they where v4l compatible (thats what i chose in the mythtv-setup) |
| [05:05:00] | kormoc: | Ripped_Ca, no, you don't need to |
| [05:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | unkle: No they are not |
| [05:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | And you WILL have problems if you set a PVR 250/150/whatever to a Standarde v4l device in myth |
| [05:05:00] | iggy: | the pvr cards have their own option |
| [05:06:00] | kormoc: | Ripped_Ca, your frontend connects to the backend, and connects to the mysql database as user mythtv, but it runs on the local machine as your user |
| [05:06:00] | unkle: | GreyFoxx kormoc, okay, ive still got a lot to learn. Do you know any good (cheaper) alternatives to PVR that has a decent tv-out ? |
| [05:06:00] | kormoc: | unkle, why? what's wrong with yours now? |
| [05:07:00] | Ripped_Ca: | when I run the frontend command, I'm logged in as the user mythtv so I guess I use that username and password? |
| [05:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | unkle: Well only one of the pvr cards has tv out |
| [05:07:00] | kormoc: | unkle, I'd sudgest just getting an nvidia card with tv out |
| [05:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | and I don't see it as worth the money |
| [05:07:00] | kormoc: | Ripped_Ca, what is the issue? cause I think you're not quite understanding the layout |
| [05:07:00] | iggy: | Ripped_Ca: you'll have a system user and a mysql user, they don't necessarily have to match |
| [05:08:00] | unkle: | kormoc, nothings wrong and im euforic about mythtv (cant believe i didnt install it sooner!) but my girlfriend studys and she'd like a cheap copy of my box :) |
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| [05:08:00] | kormoc: | unkle, ahh, well, I'd say go with a pvr 150 and a nvidia with tvout |
| [05:09:00] | unkle: | kormoc, wont i get a better picture with a 350 at the same price ? |
| [05:09:00] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
| [05:09:00] | unkle: | kormoc, or perhaps you are referring to nvdia 6150 chipset ? |
| [05:09:00] | kormoc: | it's iffy if it's gonna be better or not |
| [05:09:00] | kormoc: | unkle, hrm? 6150 chipset? |
| [05:09:00] | Ripped_Ca: | was the mysql user created when I issued the cmd "-u -p < /usr/share/doc/mythtv-0.18.1/database/mc.sql"? |
| [05:10:00] | unkle: | kormoc, okay :) |
| [05:10:00] | kormoc: | unkle, ahh, pci-e nforce mobo. |
| [05:10:00] | unkle: | kormoc, nForce 430 |
| [05:10:00] | unkle: | kormoc, yes |
| [05:11:00] | unkle: | kormoc, "they" say its an ok chipset |
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| [05:12:00] | AlienBaby: | Any docs available on the OSD theme variables? |
| [05:12:00] | unkle: | kormoc, and some hype regarding "Pure Video technology" (i havent seen the result though) |
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| [05:15:00] | Ripped_Ca: | still having problems |
| [05:15:00] | Ripped_Ca: | MYSQL3: Unable to connect |
| [05:15:00] | Ripped_Ca: | Database error was: |
| [05:15:00] | Ripped_Ca: | Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES) |
| [05:15:00] | Ripped_Ca: | 2005-12–27 23:13:50.620 Unable to connect to database |
| [05:16:00] | Ripped_Ca: | when issue the mythfrontend command |
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| [05:17:00] | AlienBaby: | ANy idea how to do a New Line in the OSD .xml files? I've tried \r |
| [05:19:00] | AlienBaby: | Everyone here Flatlineing? |
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| [05:19:00] | Fitzsimmons: | hi |
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| [05:20:00] | AlienBaby: | Imagine I'm th eonly guy in the room in a Bear Suit and asking How to do a New Line/Carriage Return in the osd .xml files |
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| [05:21:00] | `Matir: | what kind of remote is reccomended for mythtv/lirc? |
| [05:21:00] | AlienBaby: | I'm using the PVR 350's remote.. which really isn't layed out well for Myth.. |
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| [05:22:00] | AlienBaby: | Or a better statement might be that myth seems to have been written more for a keyboard than a remote. |
| [05:22:00] | `Matir: | I'm planning on using a PVR-500, but unfortunately can only find the MCE, which has no remote. |
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| [05:23:00] | tuos: | because I'm having trouble with QT talking to mysql version 4.1... I'm wondering what is the specific version I should be using of mysql... |
| [05:24:00] | kormoc: | tuos, there is not |
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| [05:24:00] | tuos: | kormoc: I figured... |
| [05:24:00] | kormoc: | tuos, are you sure qt was compiled with the mysql interface? |
| [05:24:00] | tuos: | kormoc: I'm on Gentoo... and for the life of me I cannot understand what's the problem. |
| [05:24:00] | kormoc: | tuos, mysql is in the useflags for qt? |
| [05:24:00] | AlienBaby: | my MySQL in 4.1.14 |
| [05:25:00] | tuos: | kormoc: I'm absolutely positive. I've read some of the gentoo bugs and I did a revdep-rebuild for the libmysql... but that didn't fix it. |
| [05:25:00] | tuos: | AlienBaby: which distrobution? |
| [05:25:00] | kormoc: | tuos, emerge -pv qt shows the mysql flag set? |
| [05:25:00] | AlienBaby: | Gentoo |
| [05:25:00] | kormoc: | I'm on gentoo, and I've used 4.0 and 4.1 fine |
| [05:26:00] | AlienBaby: | I have found that most the Docs for Gentoo are way out of Date.. |
| [05:27:00] | \Grooby\_: | i think mythtv doesn't work w/ QT4 yet |
| [05:27:00] | tuos: | kormoc: AlienBaby: well hopefully you guys can set me straight then.... I have qt-3.3.4-r8 +cups +examples +firebird +gif +mysql +nas +opengl +postgres +xinerama |
| [05:27:00] | \Grooby\_: | I masked >x11-libs/qt-3.3.4-r8 |
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| [05:27:00] | tuos: | \Grooby\_: well qt-3.3.4-r8 is the stable QT.... it's the one installed by default. |
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| [05:28:00] | kormoc: | tuos, what's the error myth spits out? |
| [05:28:00] | \Grooby\_: | ok...i might be reading his stuff wrong then |
| [05:28:00] | \Grooby\_: | I assumed his "4.0 and 4.1" was QT |
| [05:28:00] | AlienBaby: | x11-libs/qt-3.3.4-r8 -cups -debug -doc -examples -firebird +gif -immqt -immqt-bc -ipv6 +mysql -nas -odbc +opengl -postgres -sqlite -xinerama |
| [05:28:00] | \Grooby\_: | my bad |
| [05:28:00] | tuos: | kormoc: I'll pastebin the error message. |
| [05:29:00] | AlienBaby: | I'm still on gcc 3.3.4 |
| [05:30:00] | AlienBaby: | oops.. gcc 3.3.6 |
| [05:30:00] | tuos: | AlienBaby: I'm on gcc-3.4.4 nptl |
| [05:31:00] | \Grooby\_: | so what's the error message?!?! |
| [05:32:00] | tuos: | kormoc: \Grooby\_: http://pastebin.com/481191 |
| [05:33:00] | kormoc: | tuos, that's not a qt issue |
| [05:33:00] | \Grooby\_: | do you have +utf8? |
| [05:33:00] | kormoc: | tuos, for some reason your database wasn't upgraded correctly |
| [05:33:00] | \Grooby\_: | or was it +unicode? |
| [05:33:00] | kormoc: | tuos, basically, someone else had this issue a little while ago as well |
| [05:34:00] | kormoc: | tuos, it was fixed by clearing the entire db and starting over again I beleive. |
| [05:34:00] | \Grooby\_: | ok...kormac knows more about it then |
| [05:34:00] | tuos: | kormoc: Well... hmm... I get the same error message after putting in a default database. |
| [05:34:00] | tuos: | kormoc: I think that was me. |
| [05:34:00] | kormoc: | tuos, what version of myth? |
| [05:34:00] | kormoc: | tuos, ooh... it might have been. |
| [05:35:00] | tuos: | kormoc: I've had myth on here forever... but I just did a new fresh gentoo install to get away from all the ~x86 packages I had... and circular dependencies from doing a stage1 install... this time I did a stage3/1 with NPTL. |
| [05:35:00] | tuos: | kormoc: myth v18.1-r2 |
| [05:36:00] | kormoc: | oddly enough, I just did a gentoo build recently without any issues... |
| [05:36:00] | kormoc: | did you customize the my.cnf file at all? |
| [05:36:00] | \Grooby\_: | i did mine not to long ago following the wiki |
| [05:36:00] | \Grooby\_: | the only problem I ran into was the unicode stuff |
| [05:36:00] | tuos: | kormoc: just removed the line which prevents my myth frontends from connecting. |
| [05:37:00] | kormoc: | the skip-networking line? |
| [05:37:00] | tuos: | yeah |
| [05:37:00] | tuos: | but now it's all overwritten, because I finally finished the first pass of the emerge -e world. |
| [05:37:00] | tuos: | so I'd like to have my myth working before I start the second pass... in case of needing to reboot for any ivtv issues. |
| [05:38:00] | kormoc: | thing is, I seem to recall the error you got was the one query was too large, even tho it wasn't. |
| [05:39:00] | tuos: | kormoc: the gentoo bugzilla had a couple of suggestions... I haven't tried the one which has me changing the ebuild. |
| [05:39:00] | kormoc: | link? |
| [05:39:00] | tuos: | I'll find it... one sec. |
| [05:42:00] | AlienBaby: | I've just learned that <br> in the OSD .xml theme files breaks the OSD |
| [05:43:00] | AlienBaby: | so you all.. don't do that |
| [05:43:00] | tuos: | Comment #5 & #7 seem relavent. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113419 |
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| [05:44:00] | tuos: | kormoc: have you read this one yet? http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113419 |
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| [05:45:00] | kormoc: | tuos, yeah, but that's not your issue |
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| [05:46:00] | \Grooby\_: | tuos, are you using unicode? |
| [05:46:00] | \Grooby\_: | does your my.cnf's character set says unicode? |
| [05:47:00] | tuos: | \Grooby\_: rebooting right now... and I do believe I have unicode set in make.conf |
| [05:47:00] | \Grooby\_: | i had problems w/ that |
| [05:47:00] | \Grooby\_: | i do not know why but with unicode enabled mysql |
| [05:47:00] | \Grooby\_: | mythtv does not create table properly |
| [05:47:00] | \Grooby\_: | try to recompile your mysql with -unicode |
| [05:48:00] | \Grooby\_: | replace your my.cnf's unicode to latin1 |
| [05:48:00] | \Grooby\_: | and see if that helps |
| [05:48:00] | tuos: | \Grooby\_: okay |
| [05:48:00] | tuos: | I don't need unicode in mysql |
| [05:49:00] | \Grooby\_: | (just remember to restart you mysql also) |
| [05:49:00] | kormoc: | \Grooby\_, I use unicode |
| [05:50:00] | \Grooby\_: | kormoc, you gotta tell me how you got it to work |
| [05:50:00] | tuos: | mysql-4.1.14 +berkdb +big-tables +extraengine +geometry +perl +readline +ssl +tcpd +utf8 |
| [05:50:00] | kormoc: | \Grooby\_, it just worked out of the box |
| [05:50:00] | \Grooby\_: | mine has a one hell of a time |
| [05:50:00] | \Grooby\_: | (-utf8) |
| [05:51:00] | \Grooby\_: | first the table wasn't created properly |
| [05:51:00] | \Grooby\_: | then i use the latin1 character set, was able to get the table built, swithc to utf8 |
| [05:51:00] | \Grooby\_: | and then front end would crash randomly w/ problems about inserting stuff into keybind table |
| [05:51:00] | \Grooby\_: | so I just gave up fighting it |
| [05:52:00] | \Grooby\_: | kormoc, you using x86 or x86_64? |
| [05:52:00] | tuos: | in my.conf I have character-sets-dir=utf8 and I have default-character-set=utf8 |
| [05:52:00] | kormoc: | ~x86 |
| [05:52:00] | \Grooby\_: | ahh ok |
| [05:52:00] | \Grooby\_: | i'm on an amd64..unno if that could cause my pain |
| [05:52:00] | kormoc: | it could indeed |
| [05:53:00] | thechris: | hmm |
| [05:53:00] | thechris: | i'm on amd64 and haven't had an mysql issues |
| [05:53:00] | \Grooby\_: | then I dunno |
| [05:53:00] | \Grooby\_: | lol |
| [05:53:00] | thechris: | though i haven't tried the frontend too much |
| [05:53:00] | \Grooby\_: | tuos, you can try latin1 |
| [05:53:00] | \Grooby\_: | restart mysql |
| [05:53:00] | \Grooby\_: | and see if mythbackend crashes or not |
| [05:55:00] | tuos: | same "QMYSQL3: Unable to execute query" |
| [05:55:00] | tuos: | could it possibly have anything to do w/ a version3 or version4 mysql password? |
| [05:56:00] | kormoc: | tuos, no |
| [05:56:00] | \Grooby\_: | hmmmm |
| [05:56:00] | kormoc: | tuos, you would get a invalid user or pass error |
| [05:56:00] | kormoc: | and never get to the query stage |
| [05:56:00] | tuos: | what's the sql command to see the list of tables in the mythconverg database? |
| [05:56:00] | thechris: | show tables |
| [05:57:00] | thechris: | use mythconverg; show tables |
| [05:57:00] | tuos: | show tables from mythconverg -> 17 rows... |
| [05:59:00] | tuos: | kormoc: I recall first seeing this issue before I rebuilt the box when I upgraded from mysql 4.0 to 4.1...... |
| [06:01:00] | thechris: | note — mysql is not intended for unattended upgrades |
| [06:02:00] | tuos: | thechris: yeah... 4.0 -> 4.1 makes you lose your database... |
| [06:02:00] | dtm: | yeah if you're doing really well, you can export and reimport |
| [06:02:00] | dtm: | never upgrade an rdbms in place |
| [06:03:00] | thechris: | did you run: rev-dep-rebuild --soname=libmysqlclient.so.12 |
| [06:03:00] | tuos: | thechris: I'm now on the first and only version of mysql that came on the default gentoo install... |
| [06:03:00] | tuos: | thechris: I'll do that now... |
| [06:03:00] | tuos: | thechris: I also just dropped the mythconverg database, to try again. |
| [06:03:00] | thechris: | oh, i thought you said you upgraded to 4.1 |
| [06:04:00] | tuos: | thechris: that was before I formatted and re-installed. |
| [06:04:00] | thechris: | i'm gotting this from the logs from emerging mysql, which gives info on that |
| [06:04:00] | thechris: | as for new install, i had no issues on mine |
| [06:05:00] | tuos: | thechris: so I'm doing revdep-rebuild --soname=libmysqlclient.so.12 .......... I only have one version of QT installed... |
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| [06:10:00] | tuos: | thechris: "There are no dynamic links to libmysqlclient.so.12... All done." |
| [06:11:00] | thechris: | ok. i thought this was an upgrade. did you do: emerge --config=mysql-4.1.14 |
| [06:11:00] | thechris: | as the log states? |
| [06:12:00] | tuos: | thechris: what do you mean? the log shows my USE flags for mysql as it is currently. |
| [06:13:00] | thechris: | You might want to run \n "emerge --config =mysql-4.1.14" \n if this is a new install |
| [06:13:00] | kormoc: | tuos, 4.0 to 4.1 doesn't mean you lose your databases |
| [06:13:00] | thechris: | the lines from the logs |
| [06:14:00] | tuos: | kormoc: good. I had to move the database dir out of /var/mysql though before it would upgrade... (back before I formatted) |
| [06:15:00] | kormoc: | yeah, but you can move it back and run the update script and keep the data |
| [06:15:00] | tuos: | kormoc: that's cool. I didn't get that far... luckily all I had in there was some mythTV stuff and a couple of other various databases that didn't need to remain. |
| [06:18:00] | tuos: | thechris: when I ran emerge --config =mysql-4.1.14, I was asked to move my datadir from /var/lib/mysql.... that's fine right? (there's nothing there right now anyways) |
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| [06:19:00] | tuos: | thechris: after moving the datadir, it finished... and there were a few /usr/share/zoneinfo files that it skipped for asia and the mideast. |
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| [06:28:00] | tuos: | kormoc: can you tell if this is important? "Told to create a NEW database schema, but the database already has 16 tables. If you are sure this is a good mythtv database, verify that the settings table has the DBSchemaVer variable." --Database Schema upgrade FAILED, unlocking.... and then repeatedly "DB Error (Insert Keybinding)" |
| [06:28:00] | kormoc: | tuos, that is important, given that's the issue, but how to fix, that I don't know |
| [06:30:00] | tuos: | kormoc: considering the gentoo-wiki for mythTV says to set -utf8... should I worry about that? |
| [06:30:00] | kormoc: | go for it |
| [06:30:00] | kormoc: | at this point, I'd try just about anything |
| [06:30:00] | tuos: | kormoc: right now I'm gonna unmerge mysql 4.1 and try mysql 4.0 |
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| [06:33:00] | darkdrgn2k: | hi, does any one know if a Dxr3 Card can output the whole screen into TV-OUT? |
| [06:33:00] | darkdrgn2k: | hi, does any one know if a Dxr3 Card can output the whole screen into TV-OUT? |
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| [06:37:00] | darkdrgn2k: | d3itY: hey you know anyting about dxr3 cards? |
| [06:42:00] | d3ity: | cant say that i do, i'm new to mythtv |
| [06:45:00] | darkdrgn2k: | know any program that will create a live MPEG feed of my screen ? |
| [06:45:00] | tuos: | darkdrgn2k: I think xorg-x11 can record |
| [06:46:00] | darkdrgn2k: | tuos: really.. cause if it can... i can pass the mpeg to my hardware decoder to get video out :-P |
| [06:46:00] | |Slurpee|: | yooooo |
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| [11:33:00] | t00m: | doh! |
| [11:33:00] | t00m: | todays recording of the simpsons stopped after 5 minutes |
| [11:33:00] | t00m: | i'm not pleased |
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| [11:58:00] | t00m: | now it's recording 20 secs and then stops |
| [11:58:00] | t00m: | i hate it |
| [12:14:00] | t00m: | i'm missing out to record futurama |
| [12:14:00] | t00m: | how can it get worse? |
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| [12:39:00] | Kelerion: | hey guys – what are people using to prevent screen burn? a screensaver still kicks in while watching video because a key hasn't been pressed or a mouse moved etc |
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| [12:49:00] | Kelerion: | looks like people are just letting a screensaver kick in then pressing a button on the remote to cancel it |
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| [13:35:00] | Kelerion: | okies.. I give in.. I need help.. lol.. I don't know anything about modelines |
| [13:35:00] | Kelerion: | I've used videogen to create a mode call "848x480".. then I've put that in the monitor section of xorg.conf |
| [13:36:00] | Kelerion: | but when it boots up.. log file says no mode for that resolution |
| [13:36:00] | Kelerion: | what am I missing? |
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| [13:43:00] | Kelerion: | okies.. fixed it |
| [13:43:00] | _diZZ_: | Hi there! any ppc users around? |
| [13:44:00] | Kelerion: | doesn't seem to be many people of any kind around at the moment |
| [13:44:00] | _diZZ_: | heh.. ok |
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| [13:45:00] | Kleptophobiac: | anybody running lighttpd rather than apache for mythweb? |
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| [14:14:00] | Juski: | oh wow. now I know why my 'spare' box could never get more than just the basic BBC mux.. seems I need an aerial amp to run 3 tuner cards off one feed. d'oh |
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| [14:24:00] | Kelerion: | hey Juski.. I got my TV all sorted :) |
| [14:24:00] | Kelerion: | returned to my favorite dist :) |
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| [14:26:00] | Kelerion: | and learnt a bit about modelines while I was at it.. lol |
| [14:27:00] | Juski: | Kelerion: cool |
| [14:27:00] | Kelerion: | only problem with ubuntu for myth is the damn remote – it's taken me about 5 hours to get it working! lol |
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| [14:33:00] | Juski: | I'm just grabbing some svn |
| [14:35:00] | Kelerion: | some? |
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| [14:36:00] | Juski: | lol |
| [14:36:00] | Juski: | gonna do a rebuild today, so will need all the deps |
| [14:36:00] | Juski: | :-/ |
| [14:36:00] | Juski: | can never remember what I need, so I'll be asking |
| [14:36:00] | Kelerion: | you use ubuntu dontcha? |
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| [14:36:00] | laga: | Juski: i can give them to you again :) |
| [14:36:00] | Kleptophobiac: | anybody using lighttpd? |
| [14:37:00] | laga: | dpkg-deb: building package `mythtv-backend' in `../mythtv-backend_0.18.1.20051228-8402–1_i386.deb'. <- building debian packages from SVN is fun :) |
| [14:37:00] | ** Kelerion chuckles ** | |
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| [14:38:00] | Kelerion: | well.. waf factor has dropped drastically over the last couple of weeks.. well not dropped because she loves myth.. but the earache factor has gone up.. so am flattening and installing 18.1 instead.. lol |
| [14:39:00] | Kelerion: | plus.. she wants to show it off to a friend of hers tomorrow that has "Sky+" so I need to get it all working properly today.. lol |
| [14:40:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [14:40:00] | Kelerion: | I played with Sky+ for the first time at a friends house the other day.. I must say I wasn't overly impressed.. but then again I'm biased |
| [14:40:00] | laga: | what's sky+? some satellite box? |
| [14:40:00] | Kelerion: | yeah.. tivo'ish |
| [14:41:00] | laga: | oh, ok. homebrew is the best :) |
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| [14:41:00] | laga: | though i have to "brew" a lot because i'm running SVN :) |
| [14:41:00] | Kelerion: | well yeah.. of course it is.. lol.. but I suspect in this channel we are all a little biased.. lol |
| [14:41:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [14:42:00] | Kelerion: | she said to me.. "ok.. you can have your new tv for christmas.. but I want myth running smoothly and your not allowed to keep messing with it".. lol |
| [14:42:00] | laga: | bad wife |
| [14:42:00] | Kelerion: | yup |
| [14:43:00] | Kelerion: | I have a FE in the bedroom too.. so I can play with that.. but it doesn't work well when the frontend running svn won't talk to the BE in the frontroom running 18.1.. lol |
| [14:44:00] | Kelerion: | but.. I have a plan.. I have a couple of spare machines in my office so am gonna strip one of those down and run a second backend with svn so I can play with that |
| [14:45:00] | Kelerion: | am presuming backends need same version of myth so I won't be able to get them to talk to each other.. but I'm not too bothered about that |
| [14:45:00] | laga: | hehe |
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| [14:46:00] | Kelerion: | running mythfilldb at the moment – am glad having some entries in the db is stopping FE from segfaulting |
| [14:46:00] | laga: | i got a new NIC for my diskless mythtv frontend to replace the old one. the new one is a intel card that's supposed to work great in diskless environments. with my old card, i need to kickstart it from a floppy. guess what – there's no way to get the new card boot over the network *sigh* |
| [14:47:00] | Kelerion: | it isn't a pxe card? |
| [14:47:00] | laga: | it is! |
| [14:47:00] | ** Kelerion chuckles ** | |
| [14:48:00] | Kelerion: | is that exclamation a "it is! I didn't think of that!" or a "it is! but it still won't work!" ?? lol |
| [14:49:00] | laga: | i even sniffed the traffic and analyzed it with ethereal. mind you, i don't have much experience but i couldn't see anything wrong. it's possible that i could upgrade the NIC software with some intel utility. but it just says "no supported adapters" found. sometimes, i just don't like computers. |
| [14:49:00] | laga: | yes, it is an PXE card. |
| [14:49:00] | maniacxs: | hi there, i have a problem with inital starting mythtv-setup. |
| [14:49:00] | maniacxs: | i tried with 0.18-r2 and svn from yesterday |
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| [14:50:00] | Kelerion: | and I presume your running a dhcp/tftp server from your previous diskless setup? |
| [14:50:00] | Kelerion: | or were you nfs'ing it from the floppy? |
| [14:51:00] | laga: | Kelerion: of course. the dhcp server serves pxelinux to the card and pxelinux gets the kernel. |
| [14:51:00] | maniacxs: | i had to set db charset to latin1 without this it tried to use utf8 and the fields where to big. |
| [14:51:00] | laga: | i had etherboot running from floppy. |
| [14:51:00] | laga: | Kelerion: i replaced the mac address in my dhcpd.conf with the intel one but no luck. |
| [14:51:00] | maniacxs: | now i get with both versions seg fault. after the 'delete channels/cards' questions |
| [14:52:00] | maniacxs: | already tried to change theme settings, but it does the same error |
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| [14:53:00] | Kelerion: | laga.. dunno then.. I've never build a diskless machine.. you know more about it than me.. I just *kinda* know the theory.. lol |
| [14:53:00] | maniacxs: | laga: nfs stale problem? |
| [14:53:00] | laga: | maniacxs: that's a different problem. |
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| [14:54:00] | maniacxs: | laga: have you tried tcp nfs? |
| [14:54:00] | laga: | Kelerion: well, i'm afraid i still don't know the theory, heh. had to work it out all myself, there are different ways to do that. |
| [14:54:00] | laga: | maniacxs: that may be word a try, thanks |
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| [14:54:00] | Cromz: | ya know kaga I agree.. sometimes I hate computers too. I built the new mythbox. ran it for a few days no problems. move it to 'production' mose. it locked up a couple of times now the backend wont start auto-magicly the /sbin/service mythbackend start wont start it at all.. grrrrrr |
| [14:54:00] | Kelerion: | is the dhcpd server logging any activity? |
| [14:55:00] | maniacxs: | i had some problem with nfs stale, too. but no network lags.. after switching to tcp its working fine. |
| [14:55:00] | Cromz: | er production mode. |
| [14:55:00] | maniacxs: | laga: you can turn of sync when using tcp. ;) |
| [14:56:00] | Kelerion: | am presuming if you are using ethereal you aren't even *getting* to the booting part |
| [14:56:00] | laga: | maniacxs: async is better anyways :) |
| [14:56:00] | laga: | Kelerion: the dhcp server logs dhcp discovers and sends out dhcp offers |
| [14:57:00] | maniacxs: | laga: but not with udp |
| [14:57:00] | maniacxs: | because of packet lost |
| [14:57:00] | ** Kelerion just shuts up – everyone else seems to know more about this than me.. lol ** | |
| [14:57:00] | laga: | maniacxs: ok, thanks. that's the weird thing: i've got two nfs shares mounted on this machine and only one gets "stale handles". i'm gonna try it as soon as i've got my other stuff fixed :) |
| [14:58:00] | laga: | Kelerion: thanks for the input, i appreciate it :) |
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| [14:58:00] | laga: | Kelerion: BTW, in the progress of upgrading the NIC (trying to, actually), i blew up my floppy drive. god loves me :) |
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| [14:59:00] | Kelerion: | I do that *all* the time – I don't think I have a working floppy drive at the moment – I can never remember which way around the cable goes and I end up frying it.. lol |
| [15:00:00] | maniacxs: | laga: maybe to few nfs servers running |
| [15:00:00] | laga: | Kelerion: i've never fried a floppy drive by getting the cable wrong. well, we all have to start somewhere, haven't we? ;) |
| [15:00:00] | laga: | maniacxs: that could be another option |
| [15:00:00] | ** Kelerion chuckles ** | |
| [15:01:00] | laga: | Kelerion: but i was impressed, there was quite a lot of smoke |
| [15:01:00] | Kelerion: | oh hell "Tarka The Otter" is on.. I'm glad my wife has gone to work.. I *hate* that film.. I was subjected to it at school on a regular basis.. lol |
| [15:01:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [15:02:00] | Kelerion: | "well kids! it's the end of term! we have a special event for you today! no maths today! instead.... (pause)... we have a a film for you!! (groans from class)" |
| [15:03:00] | Kelerion: | I'm 31 now.. and I'm still scarred.. lol |
| [15:03:00] | laga: | i loved the films in chemistry class. i believe they were produced from 1933–45 |
| [15:04:00] | Kelerion: | one year they put "Wierd Science" on – and none of the teachers new what it was.. it's a kids film! but they still turned it off about 20 mins into the film when the boobs started flying |
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| [15:05:00] | laga: | yummy, boobs. must have been sex ed. ;) |
| [15:06:00] | Kelerion: | 300 kids in the school hall.. end of term.. a "special event".. lol |
| [15:07:00] | laga: | gotta love the american school systems :) |
| [15:07:00] | laga: | system* |
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| [15:07:00] | Kelerion: | why does the program guide.. display the "channum" field instead of the "name" field? I have to guess what channel it is from 5 chars |
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| [15:10:00] | Kelerion: | is that an american thing? do you all use 5 char names for your channels? |
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| [15:10:00] | laga: | IIRC, it works fine for me. check your 'channels' table to see if you put weird stuff in there :) |
| [15:11:00] | laga: | or it could be a setting somewhere in mythfrontend |
| [15:11:00] | Kelerion: | I haven't put anything in there – it's populated from mythfilldb.. but whenever I do this I have to go back through the channels table and give strange 5char names to all the channels |
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| [15:12:00] | laga: | that's weird. i had to fill in the values to my liking when i was running mythfilldata --manual |
| [15:13:00] | laga: | BTW, there's also a channel editor in mythsetup |
| [15:13:00] | Kelerion: | the only thing I've seen in mythfe is the "channel ordering" which can be set to the name field |
| [15:13:00] | Kelerion: | yup.. I have to do it every time I reinstall.. I found it quicker to do it in mythweb because I can do loads at a time before hitting the save button |
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| [15:14:00] | jaffamuffin: | what is the callsign function for? Can I change it? |
| [15:15:00] | laga: | Kelerion: right, i forgot you can do that in mythweb as well. sad you can't add channels there, though. |
| [15:15:00] | laga: | jaffamuffin: callsign is basically just a short name for a channel and you can change it, i think |
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| [15:16:00] | Kelerion: | laga: yup |
| [15:16:00] | jaffamuffin: | so the 1005–1009 i have doesn't meananythinh except to me? Just on mythweb it says don't change anything unless you know what you're doing |
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| [15:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | No, 1005–1009 is the chanid used inside of myth, the callsign is the callsign of the TV station on that channel |
| [15:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | and of course you shouldn't touch/change anything if you don't know what you are doing.....but make sure you make backups :) |
| [15:22:00] | jaffamuffin: | hmmm |
| [15:22:00] | jaffamuffin: | please check ftp://80.5.110.9/mythtv/mythtv.gif |
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| [15:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | those are filled in because your programlistings source isn't sending a callsign. So those values are used |
| [15:24:00] | Beirdo: | stupid-ass client |
| [15:25:00] | Kelerion: | jaffamuffin: you *really* love the tab feature of firefox huh? lol |
| [15:25:00] | laga: | Kelerion: mine looks smiliar ;) |
| [15:25:00] | Kelerion: | GreyFoxx: you know of anyway to get the program guide to display the "name" field instead of the callsign? |
| [15:26:00] | Kelerion: | I have a max of 5–6 tabs at *any* time.. lol |
| [15:26:00] | Kelerion: | ok – I have 3 monitors and lots of realestate but thats still tons.. lol |
| [15:26:00] | jaffamuffin: | heh :) |
| [15:26:00] | jaffamuffin: | tabs rock |
| [15:27:00] | Kleptophobiac: | whoa! people! |
| [15:27:00] | jaffamuffin: | fireforc 1.5 doesn't sem to let you scroll when the screen fills up though :( |
| [15:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kelerion: I've never looked, all of my channels have callsigns heh |
| [15:27:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I guess I can ask to an audience now |
| [15:27:00] | Kleptophobiac: | Anybody using mythweb with lighthttpd? |
| [15:27:00] | Kleptophobiac: | *lighttpd |
| [15:27:00] | Kelerion: | my callsigns are the sameas the chanid.. so all my channels are numbers.. lol |
| [15:27:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [15:27:00] | Kelerion: | Kleptophobiac.. nope |
| [15:27:00] | Kleptophobiac: | darn |
| [15:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kelerion: There might be something in the theme, or could very well be a config option somewhere. I've just never noticed |
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| [15:32:00] | Kelerion: | ahhh... there's a setting in the db called "ChannelFormat" |
| [15:33:00] | Kelerion: | and it's set to "<num> <sign>" .. I changed it and it worked.. excellent :) |
| [15:37:00] | Juski: | aye aye. anyone got the list of deps to build mythtv from source in ubuntu? |
| [15:37:00] | laga: | Juski: just add multiverse to your sources.list and do a apt-get build-dep mythtv |
| [15:37:00] | laga: | dunno if it's in multiverse, though |
| [15:37:00] | Juski: | ahh thanks laga |
| [15:39:00] | Juski: | bah doesn't seem to be |
| [15:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kelerion: Cool, that's likely editable in the menus somewhere |
| [15:39:00] | Kleptophobiac: | anybody running mysql 5? |
| [15:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use 4.0.x in all but one spot |
| [15:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | and that one place is 4.1.x :) |
| [15:40:00] | Kleptophobiac: | heh |
| [15:40:00] | laga: | Juski: apt-get update? |
| [15:40:00] | Kleptophobiac: | well, my distro put out 5 some time ago and myth doesn't like it... but all of the other packages are compiled against it |
| [15:40:00] | Kleptophobiac: | so on the one hand I can have a working package set and no myth |
| [15:41:00] | Kleptophobiac: | or on the other, myth and handmade packages to support it |
| [15:41:00] | Kabutor: | wich distro are you using Kleptophobiac ? |
| [15:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | I dislike packages in general and prefer handmade myself :) |
| [15:41:00] | Kleptophobiac: | arch linux |
| [15:41:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I like packages for keeping the filesystem tidy |
| [15:41:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and for easy software installation |
| [15:42:00] | Kabutor: | GreyFoxx, you use mythgame cvs right? is the sorting year – category working for you? |
| [15:42:00] | Kabutor: | *cvs = svn |
| [15:43:00] | Juski: | laga: I just updated yesterday.. need to check multiverse is in the repository list |
| [15:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kabutor: Last time I looked it worked, been weeks since I last used it |
| [15:43:00] | Kelerion: | GreyFoxx: found it: frontend/setup/tv settings/general/page 2 |
| [15:43:00] | Juski: | dammit the box just rebooted. weird |
| [15:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kelerion: Cool |
| [15:44:00] | Kabutor: | I managed to get it working but only the category game, not the year one, that seems to be borked.. just asking im Im the only one with the problem.. |
| [15:44:00] | Juski: | jees HOW hot is the graphics card? I might've known it'd not be okay to run it without a fan |
| [15:45:00] | Kleptophobiac: | gpu's can get pretty hot... 70 deg C isn't that bad for them |
| [15:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kabutor: Hold on, I'll fire it up |
| [15:47:00] | Kabutor: | Did you isert the games in the database "sorted" somewhere? I inject the romdb as you told me the other day, so I managed to get sorted in the type-of-game category, but the year looks like working, I get a list with a lot of years, but I cant "click" on them |
| [15:48:00] | Kabutor: | also cant "click" on the first option "system" Ill have to look at that more, I have two systemes, mame and snes, but I cant "select" them with the remote.. |
| [15:48:00] | Kabutor: | its quite hard to explain |
| [15:50:00] | Juski: | hmm 'unable to find a source package for mythtv' |
| [15:50:00] | Juski: | think I might just wing it |
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| [15:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kabutor: No, my games get "Scanned" in. Sorting occurs when you pull up mythgame |
| [15:52:00] | Kabutor: | Ok, I can explain now better. If I go to All Games,->Genre I get the list of genres, I right click on the remote and the list of games to that genre, click enter in the remote and play |
| [15:53:00] | Kabutor: | If I go to All games->Year, I get the list of years, rightclick on the remote, placing the cursor over any year, and nothing happens |
| [15:53:00] | Kabutor: | and cant go "into" that year |
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| [15:54:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I just installed today's SVN of mythweb onto an apache server... and I'm getting a blank white screen |
| [15:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | I see what you mean |
| [15:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kabutor: At this point all I can say is "bug" |
| [15:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'll take a look at it in a bit |
| [15:55:00] | Kelerion: | Kleptophobiac – whats your log files saying? |
| [15:56:00] | Kabutor: | I'll check it now and afaik the year sorting is broked |
| [15:56:00] | Kleptophobiac: | absolutely nothing in error_log |
| [15:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kabutor: It's definately broken |
| [15:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | Like I said, I'll look at it later |
| [15:57:00] | Kleptophobiac: | other than it couldn't find favicon.ico... but who cares? |
| [15:57:00] | riksta: | me! |
| [15:57:00] | Juski: | yay! got apt-get build-dep mythtv working |
| [15:57:00] | Kabutor: | Because if i select in the preferences to sort as system – genre – year – gamename I can go up until year.. If I remove year, I can select all properly :) |
| [15:57:00] | Kabutor: | Ok, thx GreyFoxx :) |
| [15:58:00] | Kleptophobiac: | Kelerion – I can get the database error thing if I kill the .htaccess file |
| [15:58:00] | Juski: | has nobody done an favicon yet? sheesh |
| [15:59:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I did once... but it sucked |
| [15:59:00] | Kelerion: | Kleptophobiac.. you need to fix .htaccess.. read the README file in mythweb.. it takes some messing but it works |
| [15:59:00] | Kleptophobiac: | nonono |
| [15:59:00] | Kleptophobiac: | it is there |
| [15:59:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and |
| [15:59:00] | Kleptophobiac: | it's configured properly |
| [15:59:00] | Kleptophobiac: | when I remove the file |
| [15:59:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I can force the database error |
| [15:59:00] | Kleptophobiac: | to know that php is functioning |
| [15:59:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and when I put it back (fully configured) |
| [15:59:00] | Kleptophobiac: | mythweb just shows up as a blank white screen |
| [16:00:00] | Kleptophobiac: | with source code |
| [16:00:00] | Kleptophobiac: | <html><body></body></html> |
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| [16:00:00] | Kelerion: | and when it shows up as a white screen what in the log files? |
| [16:00:00] | Kleptophobiac: | the apache log file? |
| [16:00:00] | Kelerion: | yup |
| [16:00:00] | Kleptophobiac: | just a complaint about not finding favicon |
| [16:00:00] | Kleptophobiac: | that's it |
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| [16:01:00] | Kelerion: | I bet your missing something in .htaccess.. I seem to remember they moved some db access stuff into php vars into there |
| [16:01:00] | Kleptophobiac: | yes |
| [16:01:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and they're set properly |
| [16:01:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and allowoverride is set in httpd.conf |
| [16:01:00] | Kelerion: | okies.. dunno then |
| [16:01:00] | Kelerion: | but I know it works because I've had it working in apache/fc4 |
| [16:01:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I had it working two days ago |
| [16:02:00] | Kleptophobiac: | but I had to be a jackass and try to get ruby running on lighttpd |
| [16:02:00] | Kleptophobiac: | so now I have a working lighttpd + ruby + php |
| [16:02:00] | Kleptophobiac: | but no mythweb |
| [16:02:00] | Kleptophobiac: | so I tried going back to apache |
| [16:02:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and can't seem to make mythweb do its thing |
| [16:02:00] | Kelerion: | dunno – sorry.. I know use light |
| [16:02:00] | Kelerion: | don't know -even |
| [16:03:00] | Kleptophobiac: | yeah... but this is apache again |
| [16:04:00] | bjohnson: | Beirdo: around? how about a meet on Sat., Dec 31? |
| [16:06:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and when I try to use mythweb from lighttpd |
| [16:06:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I get a blank screen as well, but this time with no source code |
| [16:06:00] | dberry: | is there a mythtv bittorrent plugin? |
| [16:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | Nope |
| [16:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | and there will never be a "official" p2p sharing plugin |
| [16:07:00] | Juski: | GreyFoxx: took the words right out of my mouth |
| [16:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | there might well be something someone has hacked up out there |
| [16:09:00] | Kleptophobiac: | what would you do with myth p2p anyway? you can't really share shows... unless you wanted to start with one seed. Plus that's of dubious legality. I suppose you could move around free content, but those already have distribution systems |
| [16:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | people would use it to automate the downloading of shows |
| [16:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | I can see WHY people would want it |
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| [16:09:00] | Juski: | free content? what free content? everything on TV is copyrighted isn't it? |
| [16:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | it just wont be part of it |
| [16:10:00] | dberry: | The reason I ask is because I have a dvd burner in my mythbox and i wanted to download isos |
| [16:10:00] | Kleptophobiac: | Juski – there's free content on the web... but it's already on the web and doesn't need help getting onto a person's system |
| [16:10:00] | Juski: | yeh but is any of it worth seeing? ;-) |
| [16:10:00] | Kleptophobiac: | ie, CBS just launched two of its shows on the web for free |
| [16:10:00] | Kleptophobiac: | probably not |
| [16:10:00] | dberry: | granted it could be used for "other" content but I just dont want to download via my desktop to move it to my mythbox |
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| [16:11:00] | Juski: | so erm... mount it with NFS or Samba |
| [16:11:00] | dberry: | that is what i do |
| [16:11:00] | dberry: | just annoying to do 2 steps |
| [16:11:00] | Juski: | yeh but how many remote presses would it be anyway? |
| [16:13:00] | Kleptophobiac: | argh |
| [16:13:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I don't understand |
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| [16:14:00] | Kleptophobiac: | apache? check! |
| [16:14:00] | Kleptophobiac: | php? check! (phpinfo() works) |
| [16:14:00] | Kleptophobiac: | mysql? check! (phpmyadmin works) |
| [16:14:00] | Juski: | oo this compile is going ok.. time to check I've got all my graphics stashed |
| [16:15:00] | Kleptophobiac: | .htaccess? Present! (moving it results in the infamous db error) |
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| [16:15:00] | Kleptophobiac: | mythweb? blat! (empty html file) |
| [16:15:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I just don't get it at all |
| [16:16:00] | braniff: | apt-get reinstall mythweb ?? |
| [16:16:00] | Kelerion: | Kleptophobiac: do you need specific permissions on the .htaccess? I can't remember |
| [16:16:00] | Juski: | I tried the new mythweb the other week & I couldn't get it working either |
| [16:16:00] | Kelerion: | I got it working – but it took 20 mins or so |
| [16:16:00] | poser: | I have to run this command before I can get any content through my tuner card, so where should I put it to automate running the command at boot? /usr/bin/ivtvctl -p 4 |
| [16:16:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I'm not running debian... and I had svn working just the day before yesterday |
| [16:16:00] | braniff: | poser, depends on your distro |
| [16:16:00] | poser: | fedora |
| [16:17:00] | braniff: | /etc/rc.local |
| [16:17:00] | poser: | ok thanks |
| [16:17:00] | braniff: | IIRC |
| [16:17:00] | Kleptophobiac: | so what are all the things that would cause mythweb to generate an empty page? |
| [16:18:00] | braniff: | mythbackend not running heh |
| [16:18:00] | Kleptophobiac: | uhm, that would cause it to spit out an ugly error message |
| [16:18:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I've done that before |
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| [16:20:00] | Kleptophobiac: | confound it |
| [16:21:00] | Kleptophobiac: | why most mythtv hate mysql5... life would be so much simpler if they played nice |
| [16:21:00] | Kleptophobiac: | *must |
| [16:22:00] | ** braniff is perfectly happy with MythTV — now if only television would get better :/ ** | |
| [16:22:00] | Kleptophobiac: | heh |
| [16:24:00] | braniff: | yeah i only have to screw with my myth box when the power goes out...been very reliable of late |
| [16:26:00] | Juski: | okay |
| [16:26:00] | Juski: | who the fuck has added a link to my (as yet unavailable) theme in the mythtv.info wiki? |
| [16:27:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I have two major beefs with mythtv and a bazillion minor ones.... the majors are the mysql5 compatibility of the backend and the segfaulting all the time of the frontend |
| [16:27:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and the minor stuff doesn't matter |
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| [16:31:00] | braniff: | oh damn! a kilowatt power supply! heh http://www.xyzcomputing.com/index.php?option= . . . w&id=501 |
| [16:32:00] | braniff: | only 489 USD |
| [16:33:00] | braniff: | maybe could use this to build a dual-core 64bit system with a RAID array |
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| [16:36:00] | sloncho: | hi. what kind of videocard I should have in order to use HDTV (16:9) TV receiver for display? |
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| [16:38:00] | Juski: | right.. that's all my website deleted ready for the netx update.. whenever that's gonna be |
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| [16:38:00] | sloncho: | I'm shopping for new HDTV, but I want to use it with mythtv later, so I need to know what kind of inputs this tv-set have to have, and what kind of outputs my mythtv box have to have in order to use the full 1280/772 resolution |
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| [16:42:00] | bronco1: | sloncho: use a DVI connectin |
| [16:42:00] | bronco1: | err a dvi connection |
| [16:42:00] | Baylink: | sloncho, I'd guess you want a monitor with whatever type of output your VGA card has. |
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| [16:42:00] | bronco1: | DVI -> HDMI |
| [16:42:00] | hackmiester: | . |
| [16:42:00] | Baylink: | DVI would be best, yes, but may require you to replace your VGA card if it doesn't have that output. |
| [16:42:00] | bronco1: | yes, you can get a nvidia Geforce card with DVI out for pretty cheap |
| [16:43:00] | sloncho: | bronco1: so DVI -> conv to HDMI _>tv? |
| [16:44:00] | bronco1: | yeah DVI is a "computer connection" and HDMI is a "tv" connection |
| [16:44:00] | bronco1: | you can buy a DVI-> VGA adapter and a DVI-> HDMI adapter pretty cheap |
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| [16:44:00] | sloncho: | couse I'm looking at Panasonic PT-50DL54 tv. It has HDMI input, as well as RGB/VGA/SVGA/XGA inpout. But in it's docs it's written that it will support 1024/768 on the XGA input, which is 4:# and not HDTV |
| [16:45:00] | sloncho: | and in the same docs, for the HDMI is written ,that it is not intended for PC connection |
| [16:45:00] | sloncho: | so, now I'm really confused |
| [16:46:00] | bronco1: | I think the HDMI note is a disclaimer |
| [16:46:00] | bronco1: | I see that on all TVs |
| [16:47:00] | bronco1: | the XGA would be an analog signal, and the HDMI would be a digital signal |
| [16:47:00] | bronco1: | thus the HDMI would be the better connection |
| [16:48:00] | sloncho: | I'm wondering, 'couse $2000+ is a little high for experiment :) |
| [16:48:00] | bronco1: | I believe the reason that dont want you using the HDMI is if you send it the wrong resolution/refresh rate you could damage the TV |
| [16:48:00] | sloncho: | so, this is the next page: what are right refresh rates? |
| [16:50:00] | bronco1: | you would have to look on the avsforums.com |
| [16:50:00] | bronco1: | I would try a search for your tv model |
| [16:50:00] | Juski: | I doubt you could actually damage a monitor or tv by using the wrong video mode in this day & age |
| [16:51:00] | bronco1: | that forum can tell you all of the details about connecting a pc to a tv |
| [16:51:00] | bronco1: | Juski: I think the HDMI note is a disclaimer, but it may be possible... |
| [16:51:00] | bronco1: | you can fry a crt pretty good sending an analog signal |
| [16:52:00] | Juski: | don't think so |
| [16:52:00] | Juski: | most will just cut out if they can't lock to it |
| [16:52:00] | bronco1: | ever try sending a 85Hz refresh rate to a cheap CRT? |
| [16:52:00] | bronco1: | it causes the "scrolling lines" to appear |
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| [16:52:00] | Juski: | haven't managed to bork my crappy relisys rubbish monitor yet |
| [16:52:00] | bronco1: | and the image becomes very blurry |
| [16:53:00] | Juski: | send it too high a refresh rate & it just blanks |
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| [16:56:00] | sloncho: | bronco1: avsforums.com is full of XXX ads :). Do you mean avsforum.com? |
| [16:57:00] | Kelerion: | anyone know if mktemp works differently under ubuntu than it would under FC? |
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| [17:23:00] | bronco1: | sloncho: haha, yeah avsforum.com |
| [17:28:00] | sloncho: | :) |
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| [17:46:00] | tuos: | Is the default audio output device supposed to be ALSA:default ? |
| [17:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | It is if you want to the default ALSA device |
| [17:47:00] | tuos: | GreyFoxx: what's the Mixer Device default for ALSA? |
| [17:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | the same |
| [17:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | ALSA:default |
| [17:47:00] | tuos: | cool. |
| [17:47:00] | tuos: | :) |
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| [17:52:00] | psofa: | [mpegts @ 0xb7457360]Parser not found for Codec Id: 94211 ! |
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| [17:54:00] | psofa: | hm |
| [17:54:00] | psofa: | must be xvmc |
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| [17:57:00] | psofa: | yes its xvmc |
| [17:57:00] | psofa: | :) |
| [17:58:00] | psofa: | how can i speed up the time it takes for tuning on dvb-s? |
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| [17:59:00] | mock: | flux capacitor |
| [17:59:00] | Majestic12: | hi |
| [17:59:00] | psofa: | ? |
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| [17:59:00] | DarkBeer: | played a dvd through my mythbox for the first time last night and had an issue where the audio isn't sync'd properly. notice it the most when people are talking. reading that this might be an mplayer issue and I should use xine instead? |
| [17:59:00] | mock: | bad joke. i'm no help |
| [17:59:00] | psofa: | actualy its not the tuning |
| [17:59:00] | psofa: | its the prebuffering |
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| [18:14:00] | psofa: | is it possible that opengl timing makes things worse |
| [18:14:00] | psofa: | ? |
| [18:14:00] | kormoc: | it can, esp with certain driver versions |
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| [18:16:00] | l1nux (i=moi@54.138.103-84.rev.gaoland.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [18:16:00] | l1nux: | hi |
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| [18:18:00] | psofa: | 2005-12–28 20:17:59.105 Invalid file handle when opening /mnt/store//1591_20051228201757.mpg. 10 retries remaining. |
| [18:18:00] | psofa: | whats that supposed to mean? |
| [18:18:00] | psofa: | im full with that in a specific channel |
| [18:19:00] | psofa: | nah |
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| [18:19:00] | psofa: | its the channs fault |
| [18:19:00] | psofa: | :) |
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| [18:28:00] | psofa: | is it possible to improve the prebufering time? |
| [18:28:00] | Coume: | evening :) |
| [18:29:00] | laga: | hi Coume |
| [18:29:00] | Coume: | how is it going? |
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| [18:30:00] | laga: | Coume: currently installing windows xp on my main box. that's what i call a shitty piece of software. |
| [18:31:00] | Coume: | laga, eheh, I'm currently trying to figure out with my mic stop working and can't use Skype anymore! |
| [18:31:00] | laga: | and what's up with you? |
| [18:31:00] | laga: | Coume: hehe |
| [18:31:00] | Coume: | hi justin :) |
| [18:31:00] | l1nux: | howto delete entry from "DVB Transoprt Editor" ? |
| [18:31:00] | Juski: | y'ello |
| [18:32:00] | sri: | is using wireless between the frontend and the backend an okay solution? |
| [18:32:00] | l1nux: | in mythtv-setup |
| [18:32:00] | Juski: | long time no see, mr Coume |
| [18:32:00] | sri: | or will I suffer from quality? |
| [18:32:00] | Juski: | oh, to suffer from quality |
| [18:32:00] | Juski: | ;-) |
| [18:32:00] | Coume: | Juski, yeah I don't have much time come on IRC cos' when I'm here I stick around and don't do other thing :( |
| [18:32:00] | poop: | sri: You'll suffer from droppage if it's not fast enough. |
| [18:32:00] | laga: | Coume: hehe. irc is a huge timesink |
| [18:33:00] | Coume: | yep, a nice timesink :) |
| [18:34:00] | ** Coume is definitely dumb... he can't even get a stupid mic working again... rrhhhhh ** | |
| [18:35:00] | Juski: | oh fack.. time for the simpsons |
| [18:35:00] | ** Juski is watching livetv again (yikes) ** | |
| [18:35:00] | laga: | blech, livetv ;) |
| [18:35:00] | Juski: | just wait til I get that fkn dbox2 working though |
| [18:35:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [18:36:00] | laga: | Juski: i recorded some stuff during the night and it's still working, i think. i didn't work for some time because i set it to radio mode :) |
| [18:36:00] | Juski: | got svn compiled no probs but all my system variables are screwed.. so the box got unceremoniously powered down.. grrr.. anyway... bbl |
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| [18:57:00] | ** sri hopes that there won't be dropped framerates. ** | |
| [18:57:00] | ** sri has the wireless B not G. ** | |
| [18:58:00] | sri: | in any rate, I'm not even at that stage yet. |
| [18:58:00] | ** sri has problems with loading the mpeg firmware on ubuntu ** | |
| [18:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | sri: most people using B are disappointed |
| [18:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | but ymmv |
| [18:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | You could certainly play around with lowering your bitrates if it's a problem |
| [18:58:00] | sri: | GreyFoxx: yeah, I might be in that category. |
| [18:59:00] | sri: | definitely will do that. |
| [18:59:00] | sri: | I have this spare monitor and I thought I could get some mileage out of it being a entertainment hub in the kitchen. |
| [18:59:00] | sri: | has anybody have problems with trying to load the mpeg firmware for a hauppage pvr-150? |
| [18:59:00] | sri: | actually pvr-150mce |
| [19:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | The closest thing I have to a wireless frontend is my laptop with a vmware session playing stuff from my basement heh |
| [19:00:00] | sri: | the strange part is that i don't seem to have a hotplug.agent script on my ubuntu box. |
| [19:00:00] | sri: | GreyFoxx: using B or G? |
| [19:00:00] | Kelerion: | sri – have it working for a 250 on ubuntu |
| [19:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | G |
| [19:00:00] | sri: | lucky you. |
| [19:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | I had B but had some skipping, so I replaced the accesspoint |
| [19:01:00] | sri: | :( |
| [19:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | I wanted to replace it anyway, so that was just the final motivation |
| [19:01:00] | sri: | Kelerion: for some reason I can't seem to get it to load the mpeg encoder firmware. |
| [19:01:00] | sri: | GreyFoxx: nod. |
| [19:01:00] | sri: | mine is too new to replace yet. |
| [19:01:00] | Kelerion: | sri – where have you put the firmware? |
| [19:01:00] | sri: | /lib/hotplug/firmware. |
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| [19:01:00] | sri: | I'm using 0.4.1 |
| [19:02:00] | sri: | and the file is: v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw |
| [19:02:00] | sri: | as was stated on the ivtv website. |
| [19:02:00] | sri: | but it says it can't find it. |
| [19:02:00] | sri: | ivtv0: unable to open firmware v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw |
| [19:02:00] | sri: | I'm thinking that I should set hte options to directly point to it. |
| [19:03:00] | Kelerion: | so am I – I put it in /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware – but as longs as it's pointed at in firmware-agent it should work |
| [19:03:00] | ** sri doesn't have a firmware-agent he thinks. ** | |
| [19:03:00] | Kelerion: | in /etc/hotplug |
| [19:03:00] | Kelerion: | see if it's there |
| [19:03:00] | sri: | nope, not in there. |
| [19:03:00] | sri: | I'm using dapper btw. |
| [19:04:00] | sri: | which could be part of the problem. |
| [19:04:00] | Kelerion: | the firmware.agents file sets a FIRMWARE_DIRS var which is then searched |
| [19:04:00] | sri: | yeah. |
| [19:04:00] | sri: | I tried to find an appropriate file on the net but I haven't found one as of yet. |
| [19:04:00] | sri: | I didn't want it ruining my usb hotplug stuff. |
| [19:04:00] | sri: | which seem to work fine. |
| [19:04:00] | Juski: | back, with wine & cheese :-D.. wonder if it'll go with the whines in here |
| [19:04:00] | Kelerion: | do you have a /etc/hotplug dir? |
| [19:04:00] | sri: | I do |
| [19:05:00] | sri: | it has blacklist.d, usb dirs and a usb.usermap file. |
| [19:05:00] | sri: | doing a find . -print | grep agent gave me nothing |
| [19:05:00] | l1nux: | please, any one help ? |
| [19:06:00] | Juski: | l1nux: help with what? |
| [19:06:00] | Kelerion: | sri: what happens when you try: grep -R "FIRMWARE_DIRS" /etc/hotplug |
| [19:06:00] | Kelerion: | is it set anywhere else? |
| [19:06:00] | l1nux: | for furst time, i get : |
| [19:06:00] | l1nux: | You should have gotten a channel lock now. |
| [19:06:00] | l1nux: | You can continue to wait for a signal, or you can change the channels with Up orDown, change input's (C), capture cards (Y), etc. |
| [19:06:00] | sri: | Kelerion: returns nothing |
| [19:06:00] | Juski: | l1nux: ahh DVB eh |
| [19:06:00] | Kelerion: | well.. not sure under dapper.. sorry |
| [19:06:00] | l1nux: | any idea ? |
| [19:07:00] | l1nux: | yeah |
| [19:07:00] | sri: | Kelerion: no worries. |
| [19:07:00] | l1nux: | what is need ? |
| [19:07:00] | Juski: | l1nux: I got that with the last svn version I was using. turned out the signal was too weak |
| [19:08:00] | l1nux: | Juski, not possible zap to another channel ? |
| [19:09:00] | Juski: | l1nux: if the signal going into your card is too weak, then you need to solve that |
| [19:09:00] | sri: | Kelerion: thanks for trying btw |
| [19:09:00] | jvs: | anybody uses 2 pvr-250 and one of the receivers of the cards? |
| [19:10:00] | l1nux: | Juski, only for channel 3 ! |
| [19:10:00] | mock: | what are the width and height of the myth ui in pixels? |
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| [19:10:00] | Kelerion: | np sri |
| [19:10:00] | Juski: | l1nux: the trick with DVB is that you get more than one channel on each frequency |
| [19:10:00] | l1nux: | the signal is good for others |
| [19:11:00] | l1nux: | howto zap ? |
| [19:11:00] | Juski: | l1nux: if you can live without that channel, just delete it and set the default tuning channel to something else |
| [19:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | mock: the default is 800x600 but it will scale to whatever res you are running unless you configure it otherwise |
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| [19:11:00] | l1nux: | Juski, not good idea :/ |
| [19:11:00] | Juski: | l1nux: why? |
| [19:12:00] | l1nux: | Juski, this is bug in svn version ? |
| [19:12:00] | Juski: | no it's no bug |
| [19:12:00] | sri: | man, thats just screwy |
| [19:12:00] | Juski: | but the DVB driver for your card might just be taking too long to lock to a signal |
| [19:12:00] | sri: | even wtih hard coding where the firmware is, it says it can't open the firmware. |
| [19:12:00] | sri: | ivtv0: unable to open firmware /lib/hotplug/firmware/v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw |
| [19:13:00] | sri: | ls'ing shows that it exists. |
| [19:13:00] | ** sri wonders if htere is an ivtv irc channel ** | |
| [19:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | there is |
| [19:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | #ivtv-dev |
| [19:13:00] | sri: | cool.. I'll check there. |
| [19:13:00] | sri: | thanks |
| [19:13:00] | sri: | I'll be back later. :-) |
| [19:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | and a mailing list :) |
| [19:13:00] | sri: | yeah, I'll check hte mailing list as well. |
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| [19:14:00] | afrosheen: | my box finally passed the CNN ticker test after I told it to use libmpeg instead of ffmpeg |
| [19:14:00] | l1nux: | Juski, ok, but howto skip this ? |
| [19:15:00] | l1nux: | and zap to other channel ? |
| [19:15:00] | Kelerion: | I didn't know you could tell it to use a different codec |
| [19:15:00] | Juski: | l1nux: seems like you need to read some documentation |
| [19:16:00] | Juski: | use the number keys on your remote or keyboard, or use the arrow keys to change channels |
| [19:16:00] | l1nux: | not work :/ |
| [19:17:00] | l1nux: | i get only osd : – (8:20 PM 0 minutes) |
| [19:17:00] | Juski: | l1nux: do you have any channels scanned? |
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| [19:18:00] | l1nux: | Juski, yes ofcourse |
| [19:18:00] | l1nux: | with good signal |
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| [19:19:00] | Juski: | I mean in mythtv – did you scan the channels & add them all? |
| [19:19:00] | eiggirC: | in my mythtv recordings folder I have lots of .nuv .nuv.png and .nuv.old |
| [19:19:00] | eiggirC: | ca I delete the .old files? |
| [19:19:00] | eiggirC: | I think they're left after a transcode |
| [19:19:00] | l1nux: | Juski, yes |
| [19:19:00] | eiggirC: | And if I delete the png will they be regenerated? Some of them are out of date |
| [19:20:00] | l1nux: | with mythtv-setup |
| [19:20:00] | eiggirC: | (New zealand has sloppy timekeeping... programmes can be 5 minutes early/late normally, and sometimes up to 10 minutes) |
| [19:20:00] | Juski: | l1nux: have you tried a more recent version of SVN? |
| [19:20:00] | l1nux: | Juski, possible view channel list (like vdr) ? |
| [19:20:00] | Juski: | vdr? what's that? ;-) |
| [19:21:00] | eiggirC: | vcr typo ? |
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| [19:22:00] | Juski: | vdr < mythtv ;) |
| [19:22:00] | eiggirC: | yes – the png are automatically regenerated |
| [19:22:00] | Kelerion: | vdr is another linux pvr.. and Juski knows it :P |
| [19:22:00] | eiggirC: | oh sorry |
| [19:22:00] | l1nux: | Juski http://cadsoft.de/vdr/ |
| [19:23:00] | Juski: | l1nux: press M to get the menu onscreen when in 'livetv', then go into the program guide or into browse mode |
| [19:23:00] | l1nux: | i dont have this probleme with VDr ! |
| [19:24:00] | Juski: | ah but VDR isn't mythtv |
| [19:24:00] | Juski: | (thank God) |
| [19:24:00] | Kelerion: | the harder it is.. the better the result in the end will be.. trust me.. lol |
| [19:24:00] | Kelerion: | thats why it's taken me over 2 years to get a mythtv working properly! lol |
| [19:25:00] | laga: | Kelerion: wow. it only took me 1.5 years :) |
| [19:25:00] | eiggirC: | took me three months |
| [19:25:00] | eiggirC: | and that included replacing all the hardware |
| [19:26:00] | Beirdo: | wow, it took me 2 days |
| [19:26:00] | Kelerion: | ahh.. but you see.. you've got a head start.. I've only been using linux for 10 years! lol |
| [19:26:00] | l1nux: | Juski, i dont have livetv in menu (m) |
| [19:26:00] | Beirdo: | like 2 years ago |
| [19:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | took me an afternoon the firsttime |
| [19:26:00] | eiggirC: | Beirdo: wanker |
| [19:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah |
| [19:26:00] | eiggirC: | GreyFoxx: double-wanker |
| [19:26:00] | eiggirC: | :) |
| [19:26:00] | Beirdo: | and that was only because I had half the hardware |
| [19:26:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:26:00] | l1nux: | Juski, program guid ok |
| [19:26:00] | laga: | Kelerion: hehe. been using linux for 4 or 5 years now. omg i'm getting old. |
| [19:26:00] | Juski: | l1nux: then you have bigger problems |
| [19:26:00] | eiggirC: | Theres so much more to the whole thing than just hardware and software |
| [19:26:00] | l1nux: | Juski, but no channels listed :/ |
| [19:27:00] | eiggirC: | I work in a school, and we're not allowed to record things off TV unless we pay a copyright fee of $3 per student per year... 1200 students $3600 a year in fees |
| [19:27:00] | Kelerion: | and theres *still* stuff I need to do to it.. small stuff now.. but still stuff.. channel icons etc etc |
| [19:27:00] | eiggirC: | so mythtv simply can;t be used at work |
| [19:27:00] | Juski: | l1nux: then no channels were scanned. I suggest you setup mythtv again |
| [19:27:00] | Beirdo: | bah, there's always stuff to tweak |
| [19:27:00] | l1nux: | Juski, and mythtv not stop recording ! |
| [19:28:00] | l1nux: | Juski, why recording |
| [19:28:00] | Kelerion: | but.. at least I know I can rebuild the thing in an afternoon *now* I know how to do it all. .lol |
| [19:29:00] | Kelerion: | and now I'm playing with moving the /recordings to another machine.. to see if I can break it again.. lol |
| [19:30:00] | psofa: | is dvb-t support ok in mythtv? |
| [19:30:00] | Juski: | l1nux: live TV _IS_ recording. it always records, then plays back what it is recording |
| [19:30:00] | l1nux: | Juski, mpg black screen video |
| [19:31:00] | l1nux: | Juski, howto disable recording ? |
| [19:31:00] | Juski: | l1nux: have you compiled mythtv yourself? try the 0.18.1 or 0.18.2 version instead |
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| [19:31:00] | l1nux: | hmm.. |
| [19:32:00] | l1nux: | Juski, need to update DB ? |
| [19:32:00] | l1nux: | for 0.18.1 ? |
| [19:33:00] | darkdrgn2k: | any one know if the GFORCE 2 GTS 32MB DDR/AGP is any good for TV-OUT in nix? |
| [19:33:00] | Juski: | you need to drop the DB really.. best way |
| [19:33:00] | l1nux: | hmm.. ok |
| [19:33:00] | l1nux: | thanks Juski :) |
| [19:33:00] | Juski: | darkdrgn2k: it'll be 'ok' but newer cards tend to have better TV out encoders |
| [19:34:00] | laga: | Kelerion: do you remember me complaining that upgrading my intel NIC did not work? i had the wrong NIC plugged into the computer. *sigh* |
| [19:34:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Juski: i just dont want to spend 60 bucks on a 256 meg card to wast on TV out for a machine |
| [19:35:00] | darkdrgn2k: | (seeing how my best gfx currently is onyl 64 megs.. but its ati cant get tv out working) |
| [19:35:00] | darkdrgn2k: | how about the GFORCE2 MX200 32MB AGP |
| [19:35:00] | darkdrgn2k: | wiat no tv out on that one |
| [19:35:00] | darkdrgn2k: | lol |
| [19:35:00] | laga: | geforce 2 mx? don't bother. get at least a mx |
| [19:35:00] | laga: | a 4mx* |
| [19:36:00] | Juski: | darkdrgn2k: you don't need 256MB just for mythtv. hell even 32MB is overkill |
| [19:36:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Juski: i know but the local bestbuy'c cheapest card is 256LOL |
| [19:39:00] | psofa: | darkdrgn2k, ive personally used it |
| [19:39:00] | ** Kelerion chuckles at laga ** | |
| [19:39:00] | psofa: | until 7 days ago |
| [19:39:00] | psofa: | when i got a geforce4 |
| [19:39:00] | psofa: | erm |
| [19:39:00] | psofa: | geforce5200 |
| [19:39:00] | laga: | Kelerion: ;) |
| [19:39:00] | Kelerion: | so still wrong MAC address? |
| [19:39:00] | darkdrgn2k: | psofa: quality better? |
| [19:39:00] | psofa: | and the tvout is way better |
| [19:39:00] | psofa: | its crisper |
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| [19:40:00] | laga: | Kelerion: umm, no. i was just the wrong card when i tried to upgrade the software. i'll try it again as soon as my box finished installing windows |
| [19:40:00] | darkdrgn2k: | cause tyhey are sellin hte |
| [19:40:00] | darkdrgn2k: | 3DFuzion GeForce FX 5500 256MB AGP Graphics Card |
| [19:40:00] | darkdrgn2k: | for only 30 bucks more |
| [19:40:00] | psofa: | the geforce2 is decent though |
| [19:40:00] | darkdrgn2k: | think it be worth it |
| [19:40:00] | Kelerion: | good luck this time! lol |
| [19:40:00] | darkdrgn2k: | ? |
| [19:40:00] | psofa: | if its onl for a pvr get the 5200 |
| [19:40:00] | laga: | the tv-out of a geforce 2 mx is usually shitty because they don't support over-/underscanning |
| [19:40:00] | darkdrgn2k: | psofa: cant find it anyhere close by |
| [19:41:00] | darkdrgn2k: | most of the bloody cards are ATI |
| [19:41:00] | darkdrgn2k: | i got a shit load of ati cards at hom |
| [19:41:00] | psofa: | :( |
| [19:41:00] | darkdrgn2k: | and they dont do tv out |
| [19:41:00] | Juski: | depends which model of geforce2 it is.. some have really crap TV encoders.. one I had wouldn't do overscan in 800x600 without serious colour abberations |
| [19:41:00] | psofa: | the 5200 would surely worth it though. I got it for 43e |
| [19:42:00] | xris: | well, looks like lxmsuite.com is going away... :( |
| [19:42:00] | darkdrgn2k: | the cleapest gforce best buy has is |
| [19:42:00] | darkdrgn2k: | 3DFuzion GeForce FX 5500 256MB AGP Graphics Card |
| [19:43:00] | Juski: | xris: nobody signing up to their services they didn't show more than the barest sniff of on their main sight? I'm not surprised |
| [19:43:00] | laga: | xris: huh? |
| [19:43:00] | psofa: | for how much? |
| [19:43:00] | darkdrgn2k: | 3DFuzion GeForce MX 6200 128MB AGP Graphics Card is the same price... |
| [19:43:00] | darkdrgn2k: | 49.99 canadian |
| [19:43:00] | psofa: | hows that in dolars? |
| [19:43:00] | psofa: | or e |
| [19:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | Canadian money is called dollars |
| [19:44:00] | laga: | well, i actually yet to have to see anything coming from lxmsuite.com. |
| [19:44:00] | darkdrgn2k: | yehg |
| [19:44:00] | darkdrgn2k: | LOL |
| [19:44:00] | darkdrgn2k: | its like 1.3 or 4 |
| [19:44:00] | darkdrgn2k: | 1 sec |
| [19:44:00] | darkdrgn2k: | .723 |
| [19:45:00] | darkdrgn2k: | so its like 36 bucks us |
| [19:45:00] | darkdrgn2k: | oops |
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| [19:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | 49.99 CAD |
| [19:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | Canada Dollars =42.8818 USD |
| [19:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | United States Dollars |
| [19:45:00] | darkdrgn2k: | that bloody euros.. |
| [19:45:00] | darkdrgn2k: | 42 bucks for them |
| [19:45:00] | Juski: | laga: I've seen some screenshots of their themes, but that's about all |
| [19:45:00] | psofa: | thats ok then |
| [19:45:00] | Beirdo: | USD is crrrap these days |
| [19:45:00] | laga: | Juski: right. doesn't buy me anything :) |
| [19:45:00] | laga: | xris: who says they're going away? |
| [19:45:00] | psofa: | damn i payd 44 for the 5200 :( |
| [19:46:00] | ** laga beers Beirdo ** | |
| [19:46:00] | Beirdo: | heya, laga! |
| [19:46:00] | Beirdo: | how's the gluhwein this year? |
| [19:46:00] | darkdrgn2k: | i donno if i should blo it on a set top |
| [19:46:00] | laga: | Beirdo: no clue, i decided to stick with beer ;) |
| [19:46:00] | Beirdo: | you silly boy |
| [19:47:00] | laga: | Beirdo: huh? no. that's quite a lovely brew i'm currently enjoying :) |
| [19:47:00] | Beirdo: | have some mulled wine! |
| [19:47:00] | xris: | laga: got a message from them today |
| [19:47:00] | Beirdo: | it's SOOO yummy |
| [19:47:00] | Juski: | how do you 'mull' wine anyway? |
| [19:47:00] | darkdrgn2k: | now whats better |
| [19:47:00] | Beirdo: | you put spices in it and heat it to just below boiling |
| [19:48:00] | darkdrgn2k: | more ram or faster clock speed |
| [19:48:00] | darkdrgn2k: | WHAT NO TV OUT |
| [19:48:00] | darkdrgn2k: | wtf |
| [19:48:00] | darkdrgn2k: | nm |
| [19:48:00] | laga: | xris: awesome. |
| [19:48:00] | Juski: | eew.. what a good way to ruin good plonk |
| [19:48:00] | laga: | Juski: that's why you do it to cheap stuff :) |
| [19:48:00] | xris: | laga: lame, imho... was looking forward to bounties, etc |
| [19:48:00] | Beirdo: | Juski: trust me, it's good stuff for the cold days |
| [19:48:00] | Beirdo: | it's warm, and boozy at the same time :) |
| [19:48:00] | laga: | xris: they didn't do anything :) |
| [19:49:00] | psofa: | cant find the damn lirc actions for mythtv |
| [19:49:00] | Juski: | cold? god if it gets too cold I stay inside.. and if it's cold in there I fix the heating |
| [19:49:00] | laga: | xris: at least there was no incentive for people to sign up |
| [19:49:00] | laga: | psofa: check keys.txt |
| [19:49:00] | eiggirC: | AAARRRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! |
| [19:49:00] | eiggirC: | Filesize limit exceeded |
| [19:49:00] | eiggirC: | FUCK FUCK FUCK |
| [19:49:00] | Beirdo: | Juski: you need to go to the continent :) |
| [19:49:00] | darkdrgn2k: | hows the NVIDIA GEFORCE FX5200 AGP VIDEO CRD ??? |
| [19:49:00] | Beirdo: | you can buy it on the streets in Vienna around this time of year. YUM |
| [19:50:00] | Juski: | darkdrgn2k: I got one of them.. brilliant quality TV output |
| [19:50:00] | laga: | darkdrgn2k: STOP YELLING THXKKCUBYEBYE |
| [19:50:00] | darkdrgn2k: | laga: sory its copy past of the site :-P |
| [19:50:00] | ** Beirdo shakes a beer and hands it to laga ** | |
| [19:50:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Juski: hmm its 50 bucks canadia also :-S |
| [19:50:00] | darkdrgn2k: | and its referbished :-P |
| [19:50:00] | kormoc: | darkdrgn2k, I have one and it works well |
| [19:50:00] | xris: | laga: yeah, not much... movie times thing was a bit silly, though I think it'd be a good thing to integrate. |
| [19:50:00] | kormoc: | darkdrgn2k, as I told you the other day, I beleive :P |
| [19:51:00] | Beirdo: | darkdrgn2k: buy stuff at canadacomputers.com? :) |
| [19:51:00] | darkdrgn2k: | kormoc: ok time to go blow some money:( |
| [19:51:00] | laga: | xris: hehe. well, it would have been silly for me to sign up with them anyways. though i'd kill for some good and troublefree epg data |
| [19:51:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Beirdo: they have no good cheap gfx cards |
| [19:51:00] | Beirdo: | they usually do |
| [19:51:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Beirdo: im looking at factory direct.ca right now |
| [19:51:00] | Beirdo: | ah |
| [19:51:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Beirdo: couldnt find it |
| [19:51:00] | laga: | Beirdo: i've already got one open ;) |
| [19:51:00] | Beirdo: | just down the street |
| [19:51:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:51:00] | darkdrgn2k: | http://www.factorydirect.ca/catalog/product_s . . . pcode=NV5200 |
| [19:51:00] | xris: | laga: yeah... definitely useless to the non-US types |
| [19:51:00] | laga: | Beirdo: and stop shaking the good stuff ;) |
| [19:52:00] | Beirdo: | just go to College & Spadina and walk until you get a deal you like :) |
| [19:52:00] | xris: | Beirdo: do you happen to have the URL for the BBC video streams? |
| [19:52:00] | Beirdo: | computer shopping in Toronto's so simple :) |
| [19:52:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Beirdo: or pacific Mall :-P |
| [19:52:00] | Beirdo: | not off hand |
| [19:52:00] | xris: | can't find it on google |
| [19:52:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Beirdo: just wach out for the police raids on that mall :-D |
| [19:52:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, or pacmall if you can stand the parking mess |
| [19:52:00] | xris: | want to propose a plugin for it, but would help to have the url |
| [19:52:00] | Beirdo: | www.bbc.co.uk is the main page |
| [19:52:00] | Beirdo: | last I looked |
| [19:52:00] | xris: | yeah, dug around, couldn't find it |
| [19:52:00] | Beirdo: | hmm |
| [19:53:00] | darkdrgn2k: | hey is this the 5200 you have: |
| [19:53:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Asus V9520-X/TD nVidia GeForce FX 5200(250MHz) 128MB(400MHz) 64 Bit DDR DVI-D Composite Output 2x/4x/8x AGP Graphics Card |
| [19:53:00] | Juski: | isn't there already a plugin for streaming bbc video though? |
| [19:53:00] | Beirdo: | darkdrgn2k: another one is tigerdirect.ca |
| [19:53:00] | Beirdo: | their store in Markham or so often has reasonable stuff |
| [19:53:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Beirdo: they are opening up one in the east end :-D |
| [19:54:00] | Juski: | (among others).. that mythstream or something? |
| [19:54:00] | darkdrgn2k: | hh WEST end |
| [19:54:00] | darkdrgn2k: | 427 and QEW |
| [19:54:00] | Beirdo: | when they open one downtown, I might be interested |
| [19:54:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Beirdo: LOL well if you gots a car its right of the highway :-D |
| [19:54:00] | Beirdo: | College & Spadina is just too useful |
| [19:54:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Beirdo: oh yeh.. |
| [19:54:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Beirdo: every other store is a computer store |
| [19:54:00] | Beirdo: | yup :) |
| [19:55:00] | darkdrgn2k: | i just hate driving through china town.. they CANT DRIVE down there |
| [19:55:00] | Beirdo: | DRIVE? |
| [19:55:00] | Beirdo: | are you nuts? :) |
| [19:55:00] | darkdrgn2k: | LMAO |
| [19:55:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:55:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Beirdo: not in rush hour! |
| [19:55:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Beirdo: or anywhere CLSOE to rush hours |
| [19:55:00] | Beirdo: | Spadina is such an asshole magnet |
| [19:55:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Beirdo: LOL so true |
| [19:55:00] | Beirdo: | TTC for me, thanks |
| [19:55:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Beirdo: but ttcing down there is such a pain for me... |
| [19:55:00] | ** Juski is off to watch some more telly ** | |
| [19:56:00] | Beirdo: | guess it depends where you are |
| [19:56:00] | Beirdo: | I'm on Queens Quay |
| [19:56:00] | Beirdo: | so it's perfect |
| [19:56:00] | darkdrgn2k: | ooo nice :-P |
| [19:56:00] | darkdrgn2k: | im in the west end! |
| [19:56:00] | darkdrgn2k: | bout an hours ttc ride |
| [19:56:00] | Beirdo: | other than the damn streetcar being closed on Queens Quay right now... have to use a bus to Spadina |
| [19:56:00] | Beirdo: | ahhh |
| [19:56:00] | darkdrgn2k: | ahhh |
| [19:56:00] | darkdrgn2k: | yeh |
| [19:56:00] | Beirdo: | gotcha |
| [19:56:00] | psofa: | the keys.text makes no sense to me |
| [19:57:00] | Beirdo: | all the good stuff is downtown or Scarborough/Markham last I looked |
| [19:57:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Beirdo: of course.. all the suppliers are in scarberia |
| [19:57:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Beirdo: cost less to ship out |
| [19:57:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [19:57:00] | Beirdo: | the suppliers are in Taiwan, who are you kidding? |
| [19:57:00] | Beirdo: | and Hong Kong |
| [19:58:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Beirdo: naa i mean they end up in scarberia apperently |
| [19:58:00] | Beirdo: | but I ain't complaining if the price is right |
| [19:58:00] | darkdrgn2k: | true |
| [19:58:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, it falls off the trucks in Scarborough |
| [19:58:00] | darkdrgn2k: | fuck i got 100 bucks from best buy.. why can they have anythign good |
| [19:58:00] | darkdrgn2k: | LOL |
| [19:58:00] | darkdrgn2k: | or CHINA TOWN.. uh i maen RICHMOND HILL |
| [19:58:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:59:00] | darkdrgn2k: | got me a client up there... i swear |
| [19:59:00] | darkdrgn2k: | china city |
| [19:59:00] | Beirdo: | I like buying my stuff from Chinese shops, the prices are always good |
| [19:59:00] | Beirdo: | return policies are non-existant though |
| [19:59:00] | darkdrgn2k: | but to get ANY help (ie Canada computers) you need to be chinneese |
| [19:59:00] | Beirdo: | or belligerant |
| [19:59:00] | Beirdo: | that works for me |
| [20:00:00] | afrosheen: | you can always use the Gaijin Smash |
| [20:00:00] | Beirdo: | "yo asshole, you just served 5 people that came in after me, do you REALLY want me to shop down the street?" |
| [20:00:00] | darkdrgn2k: | lol |
| [20:00:00] | Beirdo: | I've dumped so many thousands there that the guys who recognize me give me good service in spite of being white |
| [20:01:00] | darkdrgn2k: | LOL nice |
| [20:01:00] | Beirdo: | the boss at the College St one is a dick to me still though |
| [20:01:00] | afrosheen: | ohhhhh here come rich white guy, you want to try my dim sum |
| [20:01:00] | darkdrgn2k: | LMAO |
| [20:02:00] | Beirdo: | I like the new location though, not as cramped |
| [20:02:00] | darkdrgn2k: | for CC? |
| [20:02:00] | Beirdo: | the pacmall one is ridiculously cramped |
| [20:02:00] | afrosheen: | you like wife? here, you take wife, she cook good |
| [20:02:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, the new College St one |
| [20:02:00] | darkdrgn2k: | hmm havent seen the new one |
| [20:02:00] | darkdrgn2k: | i sualyt go to sagua |
| [20:02:00] | Beirdo: | about 1 block further west on the north side |
| [20:03:00] | darkdrgn2k: | damit i cant find a decent tv out card for under 50 bucks! |
| [20:03:00] | Beirdo: | factory direct is good if they have what you need, and you don't expect to be able to return stuff |
| [20:03:00] | afrosheen: | http://outpostnine.com/editorials/teacher.html |
| [20:03:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Beirdo: i wish |
| [20:03:00] | Beirdo: | bought a refurb miniDV camcorder there for like half normal price |
| [20:04:00] | darkdrgn2k: | any one ever get a RADEON card to work with tv/out |
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| [20:04:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [20:05:00] | Beirdo: | I use a 9600pro |
| [20:05:00] | Beirdo: | before that a 9200SE |
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| [20:05:00] | Beirdo: | the nvidia are supposedly better |
| [20:05:00] | psofa__: | so im asking again iis there a decent windows frontend? |
| [20:05:00] | Beirdo: | but I've never tried the nvidia yet |
| [20:05:00] | Kelerion: | I had a 9200se.. *shudders* I hate that card.. lol |
| [20:05:00] | darkdrgn2k: | i know but if i could get the ati working. i can save up for a nice one |
| [20:05:00] | Beirdo: | psofa__: use goooogle, and I think the answer is no |
| [20:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | psofa: no |
| [20:05:00] | psofa__: | :( |
| [20:06:00] | darkdrgn2k: | psofa__: there is one.. but i donno how good it is |
| [20:06:00] | darkdrgn2k: | http://winmyth.sourceforge.net/ |
| [20:07:00] | darkdrgn2k: | it be nice if some one could make a nice windows back-end for myth tv..... so you can use tuners NOT supported by nix |
| [20:07:00] | darkdrgn2k: | if i had more knowledge of myth tv's protocol i could start making one :-P |
| [20:07:00] | Beirdo: | we look forward to your code :) |
| [20:07:00] | psofa__: | :D |
| [20:08:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Beirdo: well the Micorosfts Encoder does MOST of the work for you... |
| [20:08:00] | Beirdo: | eww |
| [20:08:00] | ** Beirdo tries not to puke ** | |
| [20:08:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Beirdo: lol but the bloody protocol is not documented |
| [20:08:00] | laga: | darkdrgn2k: there's some documentation at winmyth.sf.net and prolly at mvpmc.sf.net |
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| [20:08:00] | afrosheen: | who do I pay to make mythmusic usable |
| [20:08:00] | Beirdo: | it's usable now |
| [20:09:00] | afrosheen: | well, it kinda sucks bad |
| [20:09:00] | Beirdo: | so pay it more |
| [20:09:00] | afrosheen: | alot of people have huge music collections and it's a hassle to deal with them |
| [20:09:00] | darkdrgn2k: | so any one have any luck with ati tv out and earlier radeons |
| [20:09:00] | darkdrgn2k: | (aka GATOS) |
| [20:10:00] | afrosheen: | I've seen some proposed redesigns but nothing concrete yet |
| [20:10:00] | laga: | afrosheen: i hear navigation is faster in SVN |
| [20:10:00] | Beirdo: | darkdrgn2k: good luck on that. |
| [20:10:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Beirdo: hey it works GREAT in vesa |
| [20:10:00] | Beirdo: | gatos is abandoned kinda last I heard |
| [20:11:00] | laga: | afrosheen: if you wanna pay someone, ask on the -dev list |
| [20:11:00] | Beirdo: | what radeon card are you trying to use? |
| [20:11:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Beirdo: 7200 |
| [20:11:00] | Beirdo: | eek |
| [20:11:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Beirdo: ve |
| [20:11:00] | xris: | Beirdo: so much for that stream. can find individual shows, but no streams |
| [20:11:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Beirdo: LOL |
| [20:11:00] | Beirdo: | awwww |
| [20:11:00] | Beirdo: | the streams used to be there |
| [20:11:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Beirdo: i get wierd lines on tv out if i try using the drivers |
| [20:12:00] | xris: | Beirdo: yeah. but WHERE.. maybe I'm just blind |
| [20:12:00] | Beirdo: | gimme a sec |
| [20:12:00] | Beirdo: | I'm waiting for a server to build anyways :) |
| [20:12:00] | Beirdo: | which station you looking for? |
| [20:12:00] | eiggirC: | what file format does mythtranscode output? nuv or mpg ? |
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| [20:13:00] | Kelerion: | locate fgl |
| [20:13:00] | Kelerion: | oops.. sorry.. lol |
| [20:13:00] | eiggirC: | Kelerion: hate it when that happens |
| [20:13:00] | laga: | su - |
| [20:13:00] | laga: | oops ;) |
| [20:13:00] | ** Kelerion chuckles ** | |
| [20:13:00] | darkdrgn2k: | are there any VGA to TV OUT adapters? |
| [20:14:00] | afrosheen: | mythstream is cool though...once I figure out why I can't get any tv broadcasts on it it'll be alot better |
| [20:14:00] | darkdrgn2k: | afrosheen: did you set up your sources :-P |
| [20:14:00] | afrosheen: | mythstream comes with a bunch of sources already |
| [20:14:00] | darkdrgn2k: | afrosheen: i mean channel sources |
| [20:14:00] | darkdrgn2k: | setup datadirect |
| [20:14:00] | afrosheen: | uhh..do you know what mythstream is |
| [20:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | There is a difference between mythstream and mythstreamtv... I think he is thinking of the latter |
| [20:15:00] | darkdrgn2k: | afrosheen:ooooo mytstream |
| [20:15:00] | darkdrgn2k: | afrosheen:thats my next project :-P |
| [20:15:00] | afrosheen: | yeah, mythstream is different :) internet radio etc. |
| [20:15:00] | psofa__: | i hope winmyth is decent |
| [20:16:00] | psofa__: | damn .net framework download |
| [20:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | psofa__: It's not from most accounts |
| [20:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | nmost find it very buggy |
| [20:16:00] | Kelerion: | psofa: if you thought mythtv was hard to setup.. good look with winmyth :P |
| [20:16:00] | psofa__: | omg |
| [20:16:00] | laga: | i don't think winmyth works well, but feel free to try it. i hear dsmyth.sf.net is quite cool, though |
| [20:16:00] | psofa__: | runs away screaming |
| [20:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | winmyth was easy to setup, just very biggy and barely a fraction of a "real" frontends capabiloities |
| [20:17:00] | darkdrgn2k: | winmyth works with dsmyth.sf.net |
| [20:18:00] | Beirdo: | mythbeer time |
| [20:18:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:20:00] | teevee: | hi |
| [20:20:00] | darkdrgn2k: | any one know who the myth protocol works? |
| [20:20:00] | Beirdo: | the code does |
| [20:20:00] | darkdrgn2k: | blah |
| [20:21:00] | Beirdo: | it changes often enough that you pretty much have to use the code |
| [20:21:00] | l1nux: | Juski, 0.18.1 not build, i get error : common.h:61: error: array type has incomplete element type, common.h:65: error: array type has incomplete element type |
| [20:21:00] | teevee: | i'm having trouble getting nvidia to initialize after upgrading from a 2.6.12 kernel to a 2.6.14 kernel, and I've done everything normal like reinstalling nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx |
| [20:21:00] | Beirdo: | teevee: then maybe go back tot he 2.6.12? |
| [20:21:00] | Beirdo: | we're not nvidia debugging experts :) |
| [20:21:00] | teevee: | Beirdo: i kept a backup of the kernel but i forgot and nuked the libraries |
| [20:22:00] | Beirdo: | ooops |
| [20:22:00] | Beirdo: | silly. |
| [20:22:00] | praet: | dammit Beirdo dont drink and type |
| [20:22:00] | teevee: | yeah |
| [20:22:00] | Beirdo: | well maybe someone here will know the trick |
| [20:22:00] | teevee: | beerdo |
| [20:22:00] | Beirdo: | I wish I were drinking |
| [20:22:00] | Beirdo: | frigging work |
| [20:22:00] | eiggirC: | winmyth craashes all the time. |
| [20:22:00] | teevee: | i saw someone in the log having the same problem but their solution didn't fix me |
| [20:23:00] | praet: | teevee what is your distro? |
| [20:26:00] | darkdrgn2k: | wonder what wuld happen if i ran VM on a WINDOWS machine and run LINUX iun the VM :-P |
| [20:26:00] | teevee: | praet: gentoo |
| [20:26:00] | teevee: | praet: thanks |
| [20:26:00] | darkdrgn2k: | hey does mythtv work with CYWIN |
| [20:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | darkdrgn2k: I run mythfrontend in a Vmware session all the time |
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| [20:26:00] | darkdrgn2k: | GreyFoxx: how does it work? |
| [20:26:00] | darkdrgn2k: | GreyFoxx: run |
| [20:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | I do 99% of my dev work on it and it works "well enough" for the occassionaly recording playback |
| [20:27:00] | praet: | teevee what is the errors in dmesg that you get? |
| [20:27:00] | teevee: | hang on |
| [20:27:00] | teevee: | other computer |
| [20:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | darkdrgn2k: http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/mythtv-openbsdvm-x11.jpg |
| [20:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | That's an OpenBSD VMware session running the frontend :) |
| [20:28:00] | teevee: | praet: nothing in dmesg |
| [20:28:00] | darkdrgn2k: | GreyFoxx: NICE.... hmmm |
| [20:28:00] | teevee: | praet: (EE) nvidia(0): failed to initialize the NVIDIA graphics device! |
| [20:28:00] | darkdrgn2k: | GreyFoxx: my ATI card DOES work with windwos :-P |
| [20:28:00] | teevee: | screens found but none usable, blah blah blah |
| [20:29:00] | teevee: | that's with 6629 |
| [20:29:00] | jvs (n=jvs@cm64-247.liwest.at) Quit ("If it lives, compile it! :)") | |
| [20:29:00] | teevee: | since i couldn't get 6629 to work with 2.6.14 i thought I'd try 8178 |
| [20:29:00] | teevee: | 8178 throws API mismatch, 7.1.0 vs. 1.0.8178 |
| [20:29:00] | praet: | there is something wrong with teh kernel mod |
| [20:30:00] | teevee: | i don't know what it would be, i just emerged it |
| [20:30:00] | teevee: | many different tries |
| [20:30:00] | teevee: | i DID have a working setup before upgrading the kernel |
| [20:30:00] | teevee: | from 2.6.12 to 2.6.14 |
| [20:30:00] | praet: | did you make suer the driver is getting loaded? /sbin/lsmod |
| [20:30:00] | teevee: | i don't even want to try going back, it's too slow |
| [20:30:00] | praet: | did you load teh right driver for your kernel |
| [20:30:00] | teevee: | yeah of course it's loaded |
| [20:31:00] | teevee: | i've tried rmmod / modprobe it |
| [20:31:00] | praet: | insmod |
| [20:31:00] | teevee: | i've tried rmmod it and startx |
| [20:31:00] | praet: | hrmm |
| [20:31:00] | teevee: | no, modprobe |
| [20:31:00] | teevee: | shouldn't need to insmod, ever |
| [20:31:00] | teevee: | lemme find /lib | grep -i nvidia |
| [20:31:00] | teevee: | see if there's more than one nvidia.ko |
| [20:32:00] | praet: | anything else in /var/log/messages that could help? |
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| [20:32:00] | whosit: | darn, just get my directv system installed and labs.zap2it.com is down, grrr. |
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| [20:33:00] | bronco1: | hey all |
| [20:33:00] | teevee: | praet: no, i get no useful messages, except unable to initialize from /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| [20:33:00] | teevee: | ouch lag |
| [20:34:00] | darkdrgn2k: | whats the best distro for a mythtv frontned (looking for somethign lite) |
| [20:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | whatever you are most familiar with :) |
| [20:34:00] | praet: | modprobe may be trying to load the older kernel module |
| [20:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | We all have our favourites :) |
| [20:35:00] | teevee: | darkdrgn2k: i found it easy to install with gentoo |
| [20:35:00] | darkdrgn2k: | GreyFoxx: i use mandirva but its buklky |
| [20:35:00] | teevee: | praet: there is only one nvidia.ko |
| [20:35:00] | whosit: | I use Suse10, nice but like mandirva bulky |
| [20:35:00] | darkdrgn2k: | and how much hd do you need for a client? |
| [20:35:00] | teevee: | darkdrgn2k: i think about 2 GB would do it |
| [20:36:00] | teevee: | darkdrgn2k: let me check the disk space on the system i just installed it on |
| [20:36:00] | whosit: | Any talk about PS3 and mythtv? |
| [20:36:00] | praet: | try logging the x session startx — -verbose 5 -logverbose 5 |
| [20:36:00] | bronco1: | I am looking for some advice: whenever I do a "yum upgrade" on my FC4 box, the upgrade freezes at libc-client |
| [20:36:00] | bronco1: | what should I do? |
| [20:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | ps3 isn't out yet is it ? |
| [20:36:00] | whosit: | spring next year |
| [20:36:00] | teevee: | praet: thanks |
| [20:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | then why would there be talk about it since noone has had a chance to actually look at one ?:) |
| [20:37:00] | whosit: | well, its supposed to have linux with the hard drive version. |
| [20:38:00] | teevee: | praet: nothing notably extra |
| [20:39:00] | teevee: | first (EE) is failed to initialize nvidia graphics device |
| [20:39:00] | bronco1: | hmm |
| [20:39:00] | bronco1: | anyone? |
| [20:39:00] | ** bronco1 crawls back into his hole ** | |
| [20:40:00] | Beirdo: | bronco1: try asking in #fedora maybe? |
| [20:40:00] | bronco1: | ok, thanks |
| [20:47:00] | teevee: | praet: i'm still having no luck, i just finished trying unmerging completely nvidia-kernel, nvidia-glx, and nvidia-settings, then verifying by rmmod nvidia and rm /lib/modules/.../nvidia.ko, then reemerging all of that |
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| [20:50:00] | Juski: | just been scrolling back. omfg... a windows mythtv backend.. ooo look ma.. I got 2 days' uptime now.. it's a rekkud |
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| [20:53:00] | Kelerion: | is that how they speak around yer neck'o' the woods Juski? lol |
| [20:53:00] | Juski: | Kelerion: might as well be in the redneck town I used to call home |
| [20:54:00] | Juski: | they had a nice big puddle of blood from where someone got glassed on xmas night in the pub I visited. god it felt good to be 'home' :-/ |
| [20:55:00] | Kelerion: | am from Leeds.. it'd be wierd going out on a saturday night and *someone* not getting glassed! lol |
| [20:56:00] | Juski: | you heard of Consett, Kelerion? |
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| [20:56:00] | Kelerion: | Derwentside? |
| [20:56:00] | Juski: | yep |
| [20:56:00] | Kelerion: | & Stanley? |
| [20:56:00] | Kelerion: | never heard of it |
| [20:56:00] | Juski: | fucking horrible place |
| [20:57:00] | Juski: | lol |
| [20:57:00] | ** Kelerion chuckles ** | |
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| [20:57:00] | Juski: | still, at least they don't have people getting murdered in taxi queues.. cos there are no taxi queues |
| [20:57:00] | Juski: | ;) |
| [20:58:00] | Kelerion: | place is big enough to walk from one end to the other without a taxi? or no taxi's because no-one wants to stop in one place long enough to pick up a passenger? lol |
| [20:58:00] | Juski: | the latter I think |
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| [20:59:00] | Juski: | looking round the pub though you'd never have guessed such a thing had just happenned.. everything seemed norma.. ah wait I think I missed the point |
| [20:59:00] | Kelerion: | we have plenty of taxi's.. which is amazing.. considering most people can't park for 5 mins to go to the shop and have any wheels left when they get back |
| [20:59:00] | ** Kelerion laughs ** | |
| [20:59:00] | Kelerion: | mind you.. we aren't as bad as manchester |
| [20:59:00] | Juski: | probably true |
| [21:00:00] | Juski: | I've had many a good night out in Leeds – more than can be said of Mancs |
| [21:00:00] | Kelerion: | where about in leeds you go? or were you too pissed to remember? lol |
| [21:00:00] | Kelerion: | which is, of course, a sign of a good night out |
| [21:01:00] | Juski: | usually studenty places, so the latter again |
| [21:01:00] | Kelerion: | good good :) lol |
| [21:01:00] | Juski: | went to 'vague' once. omg that was a club & a half! |
| [21:01:00] | Kelerion: | hmmm.. how long ago you talking? |
| [21:01:00] | Juski: | erm.. let's see... maybe 10 years ago |
| [21:02:00] | Juski: | lol |
| [21:02:00] | Kelerion: | it's ok.. thats about the last time I went to a proper club too.. lol |
| [21:02:00] | Juski: | too old for clubbing now.. well at least in the swanky poser-type places |
| [21:02:00] | Kelerion: | I'm 31.. gutted..lol |
| [21:02:00] | Juski: | visited Garlands in Liverpool the other week.. never been anywhere that good in a _long_ time |
| [21:03:00] | Kelerion: | I'm more of a pub guy.. and if you'd seen me dance.. you'd understand why :) |
| [21:03:00] | Juski: | in mancs if you've not got a mullet or similar _stupid_ hairstyle people look down on yer |
| [21:03:00] | Juski: | (wankers) |
| [21:04:00] | Kelerion: | lol |
| [21:04:00] | Juski: | aaanyway... it's all good really |
| [21:04:00] | Juski: | you just have to have the knack of finding the good places |
| [21:04:00] | Kelerion: | you seen the mythtv.info uk mug? |
| [21:04:00] | Kelerion: | loads a people for manchester.. lol |
| [21:04:00] | Juski: | and it's never easy getting pissed.. they take too long to serve you over here |
| [21:05:00] | ** Juski pines for Newcastle again ** | |
| [21:05:00] | Juski: | Kelerion: I'm on there somewhere |
| [21:05:00] | ** Beirdo wishes this day would just end! ** | |
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| [21:06:00] | Kelerion: | yeah – I saw it.. you got photo's too! |
| [21:06:00] | Juski: | I do? |
| [21:06:00] | Kelerion: | of your TV.. lol |
| [21:06:00] | Kelerion: | or maybe not |
| [21:06:00] | Kelerion: | I just looked again.. lol |
| [21:07:00] | Juski: | erm.. I do on mythtvtalk.com |
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| [21:07:00] | Juski: | anyhow.. time for some Jack Daniels and some more telly.. been talked into watched a chick flick.. but at least it's got Cameron Diaz in it ;-) |
| [21:07:00] | Kelerion: | lol |
| [21:07:00] | Kelerion: | have fun! |
| [21:08:00] | Fitzsimmons: | lol |
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| [21:13:00] | poop: | I'm beginning to think my wife's wintendo has a bad drive, which made defragging especially effective. |
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| [21:15:00] | Azariah: | I am trying to myth transcode from the cli...I get no feedback from the program...mythtranscode --chanid 1004 --starttime 2005-12–27T21:00:00 --profile autodetect --showprogress --honorcutlist |
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| [21:48:00] | Fitzsimmons: | whee |
| [21:48:00] | Fitzsimmons: | now DataDirect is having server errors |
| [21:48:00] | Fitzsimmons: | I just want my listings :'( |
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| [21:51:00] | praet: | Fitzsimmons same here |
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| [21:56:00] | redline-: | i can get to there service from the web |
| [21:56:00] | redline-: | and see my lsitings |
| [21:57:00] | redline-: | getting 500 error on mythfilldatabase though |
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| [22:00:00] | sri: | so I figured out what my problem was. |
| [22:00:00] | sri: | ubuntu dapper got rid of hotplug |
| [22:01:00] | sri: | they are using udevd and thus firmware for ivtv needs to be in /lib/firmware/`uname -r` |
| [22:01:00] | sri: | once I did that, things worked fine. |
| [22:02:00] | sri: | be prepared for questions in the next iteration of ubuntu ;) |
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| [22:05:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [22:07:00] | rjune: | I thought ubuntu "Just worked" |
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| [22:18:00] | Pook1: | Can I use a wireless USB gamepad as a remote control? |
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| [22:22:00] | dasOp: | mythtv just crashes whenever I try to change channel (frontend freezes, backend crashes after frontend disconnects). has anyone solved something similar to it? its driving me nuts :P |
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| [22:27:00] | Fitzsimmons: | yay it is working! |
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| [22:29:00] | dev-: | yo, is there a decent working windows version of mythfrontend yet? |
| [22:30:00] | dev-: | woman wants to watch tv on her xp lappy ;/ |
| [22:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | no |
| [22:30:00] | laga: | dev-: i don't think so. if you don't need livetv, samba could do the job, maybe together with dsmyth |
| [22:30:00] | dev-: | samba and mediaplayer work, but no commercial skipping |
| [22:31:00] | dev-: | bummer |
| [22:31:00] | praet: | dev- you could also boot to knoppmyth |
| [22:31:00] | praet: | just makesure the versions match |
| [22:31:00] | dev-: | not really an option, she wants to watch tv while she works like we do on the unix workstations |
| [22:31:00] | praet: | dev- instal vmware and mount a frontend |
| [22:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | the only "frontend" I know of is winmyth, and that's not genreally well thought of |
| [22:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | and of course vmware |
| [22:32:00] | dev-: | yeah i tried out winmyth a few months ago, all it appeared to be was a guide.. couldnt even schedule recordings |
| [22:32:00] | praet: | winmyth just leverages dsmyth which does not include commercial skiping |
| [22:32:00] | laga: | you could always transcode the recordings to remove the commercials. |
| [22:33:00] | praet: | mythweb is better then winmyth and it can schedule recordings |
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| [22:33:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: so, how did you like the new mythtranscode mpeg2 stuff? |
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| [22:33:00] | dev-: | yeah and i can use mythstreamtv with mythweb, but the backend doesnt have enough juice to do that |
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| [22:33:00] | praet: | dev- i have the same problem |
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| [22:33:00] | dev-: | (as well as transcode, with the amount of recordings made a day, at least 10, its not feasible) |
| [22:33:00] | praet: | i am looking into vmware |
| [22:34:00] | dev-: | only option, but probably very slow |
| [22:34:00] | praet: | its really slick.. but ive never used it to mount linux os;s |
| [22:34:00] | dev-: | i dont see how xv extensions would work in vmware |
| [22:34:00] | dev-: | useing vmwares emulated video card heh |
| [22:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | dev-: It works well enough for me. I do all my dev work on it and occassionaly use it as a frontend |
| [22:34:00] | laga: | i hear there's a so-called 'player' for vmware that's free of charge |
| [22:34:00] | laga: | i don't think Xv works with vmware |
| [22:34:00] | dev-: | GreyFoxx: cpu? |
| [22:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | Laptop with a P4 1.7ghz mobile processor |
| [22:35:00] | dev-: | hmmm.. could work here then too i guess |
| [22:35:00] | dev-: | pretty sure thats what shes got in hers |
| [22:35:00] | dev-: | too bad myth hasnt attracted some crazy win32 haxorz |
| [22:36:00] | dev-: | guess they're all wmc zealots |
| [22:36:00] | praet: | yuck |
| [22:36:00] | praet: | maybe the dsmyth guys will step up |
| [22:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | the most likely bet will be AFTER mythtv is changed to work with QT 4, since now QT4 for windows is gpl'd as well |
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| [22:38:00] | Arkkis: | umm, mythtv does not work with qt4? |
| [22:38:00] | laga: | not yet |
| [22:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | nope |
| [22:39:00] | laga: | hehe. beat ya to it ;) |
| [22:39:00] | Arkkis: | argh, I'm just compiling qt4 as I'm trying to get myth to work (qmysql problems) |
| [22:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | If that gives you a warm fuzzy feeling you are welcome to it laga :) |
| [22:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | Arkkis: Will not work, guaranteed :) |
| [22:40:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: sorry, but i just couldn't resist;) |
| [22:41:00] | Arkkis: | it was nearly finished, darnit, now I'll have to restart it with the older version |
| [22:41:00] | praet: | ouch |
| [22:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh doh |
| [22:41:00] | dev-: | heh |
| [22:44:00] | Arkkis: | so far I've had problems getting my tvcard to work ( and while booting linux other stuff broke too), mysql had problems starting, and now mythtv fails to start due to qt driver, and I have not even started to wonder the audio as I've lost some of the cables.. ..this is going well ;) |
| [22:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | Just think of how much you are learning :) |
| [22:46:00] | Arkkis: | heh, yep, and I'm the kind of person who usually dislikes the console and prefers the gui ( and I have gentoo ;) |
| [22:46:00] | Arkkis: | so, I'm having fun |
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| [22:47:00] | ** dasOp has to wonder if it just works for any mythtv newbie at all :) ** | |
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| [22:48:00] | dev-: | Arkkis: hehe.. the sound is the easiest so you dont really need to worry about it |
| [22:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | Arkkis: I'm the opposite. I general disklike guis and prefer a commandline :) Thankfully we can have both |
| [22:48:00] | dev-: | (as long as you set things in your settings, in myth, which im sure you will" |
| [22:48:00] | dev-: | er ) |
| [22:48:00] | dev-: | yeah.. cli is way easier to get more done |
| [22:49:00] | dev-: | plus your freakin arm doesnt get worn out from moving the mouse a million miles to do it |
| [22:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | Gimme a commandline and vi and I'm ahappy camper |
| [22:49:00] | dev-: | amen |
| [22:49:00] | Arkkis: | I agree that commandline does give you the command in linuxworld, but I'd prefer gui as I have this graphical memory thingie going on in my head |
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| [22:50:00] | laga: | Arkkis: pornographic memory? ;) |
| [22:50:00] | Arkkis: | laga, no, you pervert ;P |
| [22:50:00] | laga: | sheesh. pervert is such a hard word. ;) |
| [22:50:00] | dev-: | Arkkis: imagine the same thing only its commands. and instead of useing recorder.exe to move things around you create shell scripts to do many things at once |
| [22:51:00] | dev-: | cli / gui ;p |
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| [22:54:00] | praet: | Fitzsimmons looks like zap2it is back up |
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| [22:55:00] | praet: | anyone using the pvr-150 transmitter? |
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| [22:56:00] | sri: | vmware should work with Xv |
| [22:56:00] | sri: | the player works too, you can get a free image from the vmware homepage. |
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| [22:56:00] | sri: | it's called "Appliance" |
| [22:56:00] | sri: | and it's a copy of ubuntu hoary I think, not sure. |
| [22:56:00] | Fitzsimmons: | praet: yeah, I'm so happy :) |
| [22:57:00] | laga: | vmware can do Xv? thaT's great news :) |
| [22:57:00] | sri: | rjune: yeah, but I think the hotplug stuff was a bit too hokey, and using udevd to make all the devices was probably easily than having two systems. |
| [22:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: I think it falls back to xshm, but it's fast enough to do the screenwrites and scaling on my box |
| [22:57:00] | sri: | laga: I believe so. |
| [22:58:00] | sri: | laga: I don't have access to my vmware employee(s) but it should |
| [22:58:00] | sri: | vmware player comes with a kernel driver which should interface with the kernel |
| [22:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's not nearly as fast as "real" xv writes, but it's faster than not installing vmtools |
| [22:59:00] | praet: | you need the workstation version to modify the install tho right? |
| [22:59:00] | sri: | no |
| [22:59:00] | sri: | with teh player you can do whatever you want with the image. |
| [23:00:00] | praet: | wow neat |
| [23:00:00] | sri: | workstation has advanced features like snapshotting and so forth. |
| [23:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | No, the player does not let you "edit" the image |
| [23:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | but it's a plain text file |
| [23:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | the *.vmx file |
| [23:00:00] | sri: | they have that other thing too to create images.. what is that? do you remember, GreyFoxx ? |
| [23:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | workstation will create images |
| [23:01:00] | praet: | ill need to research a bit before i 'get' it |
| [23:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | sri: I use workstation and player every day. vmware is one of my favourite apps |
| [23:01:00] | praet: | with workstation you can use an os disk and go through the install |
| [23:01:00] | sri: | http://digg.com/software/HowTo:_Create_and_us . . . VMWare_Image |
| [23:02:00] | sri: | GreyFoxx: cool. We use it at work here, but I don't use it myself. |
| [23:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | My company uses it constantly, and I use it for a lot of personal projects |
| [23:02:00] | Arkkis: | arr, somesort of progressbar to gentoo emerges would be sweet, this qt for mythtv is taking time |
| [23:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | in fact I'm ircing from a vmware image right now :) |
| [23:03:00] | sri: | :) |
| [23:03:00] | Fitzsimmons: | where's the file that configures the lirc->mythtv interaction supposed to go? |
| [23:04:00] | ** sri is happy that he got his card working ** | |
| [23:04:00] | sri: | of course I did all the leg work from work logged into my box at home |
| [23:04:00] | sri: | I love linux :) |
| [23:04:00] | sri: | oh excuse me GNU/Linux |
| [23:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | bah |
| [23:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | the day I care enough to type the extra 5 keystrokes is a long way away |
| [23:06:00] | praet: | Fitzsimmons the lircd.conf file? |
| [23:06:00] | Fitzsimmons: | not that one |
| [23:06:00] | Fitzsimmons: | the one that goes in ~/.mythtv... or wherever |
| [23:06:00] | sri: | GreyFoxx: haha |
| [23:06:00] | sri: | it's 4 btw :) |
| [23:06:00] | Fitzsimmons: | oh, I've got it in the right place |
| [23:06:00] | Fitzsimmons: | wth |
| [23:07:00] | Fitzsimmons: | I wonder why it doesn't work then |
| [23:07:00] | praet: | ~/.lircrc ? |
| [23:07:00] | sri: | unless there's a gesture as the 5th keystroke |
| [23:07:00] | Fitzsimmons: | yeah praet |
| [23:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | sri five if you count the shift key to get the capital L |
| [23:09:00] | praet: | ~/ translates to the home of the logged in user /home/username/.lircrc |
| [23:09:00] | sri: | Oh, thats true. |
| [23:09:00] | praet: | GreyFoxx write a hotkey program to type it for you |
| [23:10:00] | sri: | yeah, we need a "stallman" key |
| [23:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | praet: I find those who insist on saying "GNU/Linux" instead of Linux/linux foolish :) |
| [23:10:00] | sri: | "stallman"-L would do GNU/Linux |
| [23:11:00] | sri: | or trolls :) |
| [23:11:00] | sri: | like me |
| [23:11:00] | sri: | :) |
| [23:11:00] | praet: | hehe |
| [23:11:00] | praet: | hrmm _is_ there such a program? like bind alt + shft + L types keys |
| [23:11:00] | Fitzsimmons: | I wonder why this isn't working |
| [23:12:00] | Amun (i=stinky@c-24-11-75-126.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) Quit () | |
| [23:12:00] | praet: | Fitzsimmons make sure the file is in the home dir of the right user (instead of root) |
| [23:13:00] | sri: | yeah, usually window managers can do that. |
| [23:13:00] | sri: | oh wait.. |
| [23:13:00] | sri: | no, you have to have some kind of bash binding to do it. |
| [23:13:00] | praet: | right |
| [23:13:00] | praet: | well programs like lirc make it easy to use scripts or multiple keys |
| [23:14:00] | sri: | right. |
| [23:17:00] | Fitzsimmons: | I figure it out |
| [23:17:00] | Fitzsimmons: | irxevent wasn't running |
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| [23:40:00] | Fitzsimmons: | hey, does anyone know how to get irxevent to register enter or space? |
| [23:40:00] | Fitzsimmons: | I can't get it to work |
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| [23:47:00] | bob832: | hi...just was wondering, is it possible to use mythv with an xbox frontend running the xbox extender kit for Windows MCE? |
| [23:48:00] | bob832: | or do i have to mod the xbox to use it w/mythtv? |
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| [23:49:00] | Fitzsimmons: | bob832: haha, I don't know for sure, but I can say with some certainty that it needs to be modded |
| [23:49:00] | Fitzsimmons: | lol |
| [23:49:00] | Fitzsimmons: | how else are you going to get the software on there? |
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| [23:51:00] | bob832: | i was just wondering if there was a way to "trick" the MCE on the xbox into thinking that mythtv was windows mc |
| [23:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | no |
| [23:52:00] | Fitzsimmons: | haha |
| [23:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | myth and MCE do not interoperate |
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| [23:53:00] | bob832: | darn |
| [23:53:00] | bob832: | oh well |
| [23:53:00] | bob832: | thanks for the info |
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| [23:55:00] | psofa: | whats mplayers mythtv support about? |
| [23:55:00] | Fitzsimmons: | dunno |
| [23:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | Maybe supporting myth's variation on the nuv file format maybe ? |
| [23:58:00] | psofa: | kk |
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