Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Monday, December 26th, 2005, 00:02 UTC

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pierre_:

hello there, merry Xmas

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sphing:

same

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pierre_:

can anybody tell me why does my distro try to install mysql as a dependency of mythtv?

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pierre_:

is it a bug or is it really required somewhere?

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laga:

mythtv stores its configuration in a mysql database

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NightBird:

because mythtv uses mysql to store information

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pierre_:

uh, really it does?

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pierre_:

maybe i misunderstood what is mythtv good for

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pierre_:

i just want to watch tv under linux using my tv card

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laga:

well, use tvtime then :)

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pierre_:

what extra functionality does mythtv offer that it needs a serious datavase?

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pierre_:

*database

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GreyFoxx:

myth does a lot more than just basic tv watching

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GreyFoxx:

it's a pvr, pause live tv, schedule recordings, plugins for playing non recorded content, weather, photo gallery, mp3/music player, voip phone, web browser, and a lot more

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sphing:

http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name=MythFeatures

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GreyFoxx:

It's also possible to set it to up to stream livetv or recorded stuff to other machines

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pierre_:

:) uh, seems like an operating system on its own :)

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pierre_:

but thanks anyway

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pierre_:

i'll check the features to find out if it is worth installing the database

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GreyFoxx:

Unless you are really low on resources mysql is not much of a requirement

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corpix:

hi

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corpix:

how to set up lirc for mythtv, i got lirc working (lirc_serial), and put a lircrc to ~/.mythtv/lircrc, but remote doesnt work in mythtv

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Santzes_:

Is lircd running? What if you run irw and press buttons of remote control

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psofa:

cant livetv use the actual dvb-s mpeg2 stream instead of transcoding it?

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psofa:

anyone around?

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psofa:

thats a rather simple question

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jams:

of course it can

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psofa:

how

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GreyFoxx:

psofa: mpeg2 sources do not get transcoded during livetv

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psofa:

oh sorry didnt know that

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GreyFoxx:

and they only get transcoded after if you tell myth to do that

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psofa:

thanks a lot

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psofa:

and if thats the case

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psofa:

why theres 90% cpu usage

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psofa:

?

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GreyFoxx:

no idea

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psofa:

crap

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GreyFoxx:

not much cpu for playback? Chewing a lot of CPU grabbing EIT data ?

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psofa:

the playback is choppy

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psofa:

mythtv cant even play sound

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psofa:

it plays but pauses

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psofa:

im pretty sure it tries to transcode

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GreyFoxx:

no, it doesn't

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psofa:

then why

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psofa:

in hardware dvb encoders ->livetv

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psofa:

it says that it will encode to mpeg4

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psofa:

maybe its crapped out bcause previously i had a simple v4l tuner

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psofa:

?

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GreyFoxx:

FYI a dvb card isn't an encoder, it's already mpeg2 when transmitted

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GreyFoxx:

Though I know it calls it an "encoder"

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GreyFoxx:

And no, I don't think haven't it in there previously as the wrong card would affect it

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psofa:

in logs

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psofa:

im filled with audio buffer oveflow

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psofa:

s

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psofa:

prebuffering pauses

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psofa:

etc

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psofa:

it plays fine in mplayer

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psofa:

and vdr

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GreyFoxx:

I don't know what the problem is, I just know what it isn't. And it isn't transcoding it while you try to watch livetv :)_

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psofa:

any ideas

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psofa:

on how i can see what mythtv is doing?

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GreyFoxx:

run mythfrontend with verbose modes enabled. It's a LOT of stuff so log it to a file

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Hoxzer:

psofa: just run mythbackend in the terminal and look

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psofa:

kk

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GreyFoxx:

mythfrontend -v all

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GreyFoxx:

maybe with a -l logfile

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psofa:

2005-12–26 03:09:38.047 Audio buffer overflow, audio data lost!

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psofa:

im full of these

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psofa:

*theese

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psofa:

or is it these

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psofa:

xD

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GreyFoxx:

I think there are some settings for increasng the audio buffering

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GreyFoxx:

under playback maybe

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psofa:

extra audio buffering is on

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psofa:

can i disable the opengl thing in livetv?

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psofa:

to make sure its not that

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GreyFoxx:

What version of myth ?

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psofa:

the stable one

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GreyFoxx:

so the answer is you don't know ?:)

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GreyFoxx:

0.18.x ?

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psofa:

yes

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psofa:

:D

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GreyFoxx:

the only way to disable it would be to recompile without the ogl vsync

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psofa:

omg

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GreyFoxx:

with svn it's a menu toggle

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psofa:

damn

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psofa:

but the problem is the sound isnt it?

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splat1 is now known as splAt1

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GreyFoxx:

If I knew what the problem was I would ha ve told you

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GreyFoxx:

What kind of video card are you outputting on ?

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psofa:

an nvidia card

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psofa:

fx5200

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GreyFoxx:

What version of the nvidia drivers ?

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psofa:

8174

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GreyFoxx:

The OpenGL VSync could easily be your problem

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psofa:

hm

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psofa:

yes

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GreyFoxx:

downgrade to 7676

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psofa:

the logs say sth about vblank not there

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psofa:

of mythfrontend

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GreyFoxx:

I haven't tested the 8178 yet to see if it has the same problem with ogl vsync

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psofa:

so you have seen the problem in action?

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GreyFoxx:

yes

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psofa:

and it produces these results?

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GreyFoxx:

yes

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psofa:

yee

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psofa:

i hope its just that

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GreyFoxx:

I posted it to the mailing list warning people to avoid 8174 with ogle vsync

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psofa:

:D

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psofa:

thanks a lot

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GreyFoxx:

I spent 24 hours searching the code tracking it down

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psofa:

omg

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GreyFoxx:

obviously not a solid 24 hours, but it was several hours and 20 or so recompiles :)

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psofa:

i know what you mean

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psofa:

it was a time loosing 24 hours

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psofa:

emerging 7676

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psofa:

crossing fingers

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psofa:

success

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psofa:

:DD

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psofa:

thanks a lot

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psofa:

btw is there a channel list

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psofa:

i can choose from during livetv?

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psofa:

ill check the docs first

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psofa:

:D

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GreyFoxx:

psofa: You can bring up the EPG and scroll through the channels and change to the one you want

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GreyFoxx:

otherwise just type in the channel you want and hit enter

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GreyFoxx:

or set browse mode and you can scroll through the other channels/shows without changting the channel and then hit enter when you get what you want

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psofa:

btw i have another prob

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psofa:

when the channel is anavailable

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psofa:

that is encrypted

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psofa:

or whatever other reason

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psofa:

myth hangs

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psofa:

i supposed its fixed in svn

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psofa:

but is there anyway to fix that in 018

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psofa:

?

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GreyFoxx:

yes

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psofa:

how?

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psofa:

delete the channel :P

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GreyFoxx:

pretty much :)

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psofa:

there are 500 channs

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psofa:

and i dont know them

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psofa:

id like to browse them

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psofa:

so that would be painfull

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psofa:

any other way?

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GreyFoxx:

I doubt it

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psofa:

if i upgraded to svn

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GreyFoxx:

but then I haven't used 0.18 since the day after it came out, so I don't remember that far back

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psofa:

would i need to reconf the database

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psofa:

?

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GreyFoxx:

no, myth will update the database automatically

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GreyFoxx:

just make sure you do a backup of the database "just in case"you want to go back

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psofa:

so most of my options will be there?

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GreyFoxx:

all of it will be

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psofa:

is svn stable enough?

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GreyFoxx:

assuming tnhe menu option still exists

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psofa:

i mean as stable as it can be

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GreyFoxx:

*shrug* It's all I use

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psofa:

:D

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psofa:

ill search for an ebuild

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psofa:

bcause im lazy

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psofa:

and i like to keep the system tidy

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psofa:

but mostly bcause im lazy

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psofa:

:P

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psofa:

thanks a lot greyfox

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psofa:

cu

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t00m:

morning

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Beirdo:

Merry Christmas!

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Beirdo:

heh

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Beirdo:

silly Aussies who think it's Boxing Day already :)

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Beirdo:

morning, t00m

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t00m:

it is..

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Beirdo:

9:30pm, Christmas Day...

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Beirdo:

here at the centre of the universe (Toronto)

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Beirdo:

(Canadians will get that)

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t00m:

hehe

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t00m:

yeah, lets all use nettime

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Beirdo:

Only time at Eastern Timezone matters to me :) hehe

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Beirdo:

well, that and Atlantic

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Beirdo:

I'm just being silly

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t00m:

i wonder how it would be, if earth would rotate 12 times faster

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Beirdo:

I'd weigh less

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t00m:

:>

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Beirdo:

did ya know that timezones were invented in Toronto?

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Beirdo:

about 2 blocks from where I work there's a plaque on a building claiming that's where it was invented

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Beirdo:

Sir Sandford Fleming? I can't remember anymore

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Beirdo:

my history sucketh

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t00m:

fleming sounds familiar

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Beirdo:

he worked in that building at the time, apparently

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Beirdo:

heh

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Beirdo:

so those of you who hate Daylight Savings Time... You *can* blame Canada this time

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Krazylegz:

At the 'time'. Good one. ;-)

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Beirdo:

he was a strong proponent of DST too, IIRC

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t00m:

aha

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t00m:

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evilbuny:

Beirdo: actually ben franklin pushed DST

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Beirdo:

he was a railroad dude.

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Beirdo:

t00m, yes, but Fleming invented them :)

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t00m:

fleming was the one, who proposed it worldwide

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Beirdo:

it's just we took time to do it, and the Brits beat us to it

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t00m:

19 years later

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Beirdo:

or he grabbed the glory

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Beirdo:

hehe

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Beirdo:

whatever

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evilbuny:

i thought canadians just followed the yanks

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Beirdo:

that's always possible

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Beirdo:

um, no

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Beirdo:

we innovate, the US stagnates

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evilbuny:

they seemed to jump on the dst change pretty quick :)

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Beirdo:

that's why the US is the only country NOT using metric yet

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Beirdo:

sorry, Brunei isn't either

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evilbuny:

i loath metrically impaired

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Beirdo:

but they don't count much

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Beirdo:

just frigging rich, but tiny

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evilbuny:

i thought the US was the last, and everyone else has finally converted

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Beirdo:

Brunei may have now.

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Beirdo:

tiny sultanate down near Indonesia, BTW

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** evilbuny has no idea why the yanks like to be challenged by non-metric measurements **

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evilbuny:

metric is so easy cause it's base 10

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Beirdo:

yeah

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Beirdo:

scientists and engineers LOVE metric

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t00m:

:)

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evilbuny:

so do scuba divers :)

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Beirdo:

it's the old yokels that can't deal with it

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evilbuny:

every 10m is about 1 ata of pressure :)

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Beirdo:

give it another generation or two

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evilbuny:

Beirdo: of bushes in the white house?

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Beirdo:

they'd rather think of a 0.38" rather than a 9mm

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t00m:

they'll never change

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Beirdo:

evilbuny: hehe, like that will happen... they'll all get hunted down first

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t00m:

unless they get run over by someone

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evilbuny:

Beirdo: we can live in hope

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Beirdo:

or take too much drugs & booze

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Beirdo:

then we'll get another family of crazy politicians

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Beirdo:

we can't win

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evilbuny:

Beirdo: know much about the hotplug changes between 0.4.0 and 0.4.1 in ivtv drivers? :)

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Beirdo:

nope

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Beirdo:

I still use 0.2.0

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Beirdo:

heh

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evilbuny:

i went back to 0.3.8

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evilbuny:

0.4.0 kept loosing sound

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evilbuny:

and i got sick of reloading the ivtv driver and/or rebooting

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Beirdo:

don't blame you for that

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evilbuny:

i couldn't make 0.4.1 under ubuntu

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evilbuny:

since debian/ubuntu made hotplug redundant with udev

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Beirdo:

hey there, Mr. Shintoist... merry f'ing Christmas...

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Beirdo:

hehe

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Beirdo:

I just can't get that song outta my head

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Beirdo:

South Park is evil!

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Beirdo:

heh

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evilbuny:

heh

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Beirdo:

upgrading my laptop from whorey to breezy right now

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evilbuny:

heh

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Beirdo:

so tired of firefox eating memory, I'm just hoping breezy does a bit better at controlling firefox's naughtiness

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evilbuny:

opera does a better job of it

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Beirdo:

599 packages downloaded... 53%

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Beirdo:

eeek

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evilbuny:

i'm getting jack of firefox crap

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GreyFoxx:

http://www.phaze.org/xmas/

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Beirdo:

my main use for the laptop is to play a java game

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evilbuny:

heh

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GreyFoxx:

Merry F'in XMas

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evilbuny:

anyways gotta go

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Beirdo:

but for once, java is actually BETTER than firefox

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Beirdo:

unbelievable, I know

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Beirdo:

oh no... Tennessee? :)

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\Grooby\_:

merry xmas all

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Beirdo:

bah humbug

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Beirdo:

;)

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Azariah:

What about tennessee?

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Beirdo:

hehe

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Beirdo:

just kidding

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Beirdo:

how's it goin down there?

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Azariah:

raining.

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Beirdo:

how sucky

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Beirdo:

rained all day here too

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Beirdo:

(Toronto)

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Azariah:

stupid global worming...I want snow.

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Beirdo:

and started snowing about half an hour ago

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Azariah:

warming...

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Beirdo:

it's all the hot air...

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Beirdo:

hehe

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Beirdo:

I blame the politicians.. they produce too much hot air

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t00m:

here it's 22 and it's supposed to be 35

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Azariah:

I need to know how to automatically cut/transcode video from myth. I have a php file that will encode into divx. I have myth set to flag commercials...How do I go from flagging commercials to put them into a cutlist automatically?

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t00m:

celcius

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Beirdo:

t00m, I wish it were 22.

[02:46:00]

Beirdo:

more like -2

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Beirdo:

Azariah, you can have it mark them, but you may want to check that the markings are where you want them consistantly before trusting it to auto-cut

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Azariah:

I need to automatically do it...I have a older p3 and do not watch anything on it everything is across the lan/over the internet.. I know it will not be perfect but the automatic cut will do .

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Beirdo:

well, there's a setting to automatically skip commercials, that plus transcoding might do it, not sure

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Azariah:

i tried "mythcommflag --gencutlist" but I get "No program data exists for channel"

[02:49:00]

Beirdo:

hmm

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Beirdo:

you have run mythfilldatabase?

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Azariah:

I have a cool ripmytharchive.php file that takes the file converts to mpeg and divx then deletes the orginal file and database entry.

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Beirdo:

although not sure why it would require it to flag commercials

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Azariah:

Yes...I BUt it has commercials.

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Azariah:

mythfilldatabase has ran and runs every 3 days....I have program data and things are being recorded.

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Azariah:

Using knoppmyth....I was using fedora but switched.

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Beirdo:

not sure what to suggest

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Azariah:

Do you cut commercials?

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Beirdo:

not automatically

[02:52:00]

Azariah:

but manually?

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Azariah:

Hit z then manually cut them....Is that not time consuming?

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Beirdo:

yeah, I import the cutlist in the editor, fiddle the cutpoints, then run nuvexport to export to archive

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Beirdo:

it's a bit time consuming, but it works great

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Beirdo:

there are likely settings that will help, but honestly, I don't fiddle with them

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Beirdo:

what area of TN you at?

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Azariah:

Eastern most corner.

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Beirdo:

ah. the only part I haven't been to yet :)

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Beirdo:

up near Knoxville.. cool

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Azariah:

We are not as backwards as some think...I teach at a cisco academy(high school level).

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Beirdo:

heh

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Beirdo:

I have a friend who lives near Jackson, TN

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Azariah:

Unicoi

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Beirdo:

we did Nashville, Memphis, and of course... Lynchburg.. in June

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Beirdo:

nice area, dunno that I'd wanna live there, but nice

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Azariah:

I like it...

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Beirdo:

I'm sure you do.

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Beirdo:

;)

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Beirdo:

it's nice

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Azariah:

Anyone have a suggestion for moving the commflag list to the cut list? I hate watching commercials when I stream this to work.

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Beirdo:

hit e to bring up the editor

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Beirdo:

then z

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Beirdo:

:)

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Azariah:

I don't even have a monitor on the pc....It is laying on its side behind a entertainment system.

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Beirdo:

hmmm

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Beirdo:

makes it harder

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Beirdo:

I'm sure there's a way to do it

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Beirdo:

Captain_Murdoch may be able to help if the turkey didn't put him to sleep

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Azariah:

Is he here?

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Beirdo:

he's in the channel

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Azariah:

Should I dcc him?

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GreyFoxx:

no

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GreyFoxx:

uninvited DCC's are a netiquette nono

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Beirdo:

if he's there and is up to helping, he'll help

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GreyFoxx:

yeah

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GreyFoxx:

he'll be here eventually.... assuming he's not away on vacation

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Beirdo:

wow, another one from TN

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alc6379:

okay, I'm not recording anything currently. Any suggestions as to why MythTV would say "MythTV is using all available inputs for recording"?

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Beirdo:

we're being invaded :)

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alc6379:

haha

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Beirdo:

ummm, your backend may need restarting... if you aren't recording anything, and not watching live TV

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Beirdo:

I haven't seen that happen in ages though

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alc6379:

let me try that really quick

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Beirdo:

like almost 2 years

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alc6379:

hmm

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Beirdo:

can't hurt to restart the backend if you aren't recording currently

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alc6379:

well, will you look at that

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alc6379:

that did it-- I had changed my TV tuner to a Hauppage PVR150, and I guess that's all I needed

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Beirdo:

ahhh

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Beirdo:

after rerunning the setup, you definitely will need to restart the backend

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alc6379:

I see

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alc6379:

any of you cats running a PVR 150?

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Beirdo:

assuming you change anything of course

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Beirdo:

I use 3 PVR250

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alc6379:

...apparently the 150's different from the 250

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Beirdo:

a bit

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** Beirdo patiently waits for the apt-get dist-upgrade to finish downloading **

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alc6379:

Now I guess I'm off to figure out sound. I'm not sure if that's a mythtv issue, or just a system configuration issue

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Beirdo:

fun

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** t00m is desperate **

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Beirdo:

t00m, whazzup?

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t00m:

qt doesn't build

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Beirdo:

oh good luck

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Beirdo:

qt is a beotch to compile

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t00m:

i thought it's distccs fault, so i tried without. still breaks

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t00m:

i never had probs with it

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Beirdo:

Fetched 580MB in 1h3m13s (153kB/s)

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Beirdo:

eek

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t00m:

seems to be assembler error: {standard input}:15041: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `mov'

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Beirdo:

now time to actually upgrade...

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t00m:

oh dear..

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t00m:

why does mythtv need qt anyway?

[03:14:00]

Beirdo:

because it uses qt!

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Beirdo:

hehe

[03:14:00]

Beirdo:

extensively

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alc6379:

heh

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t00m:

oh..

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t00m:

that's why it's so slow..

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Beirdo:

wouldn't have been my first choice, but I didn't write it, and it does work

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Beirdo:

but then again, I've never been one to write GUI stuff

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Beirdo:

watching a hoary->breezy upgrade is always such fun

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t00m:

wow.. g++: Internal error: Killed (program cc1plus)

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Beirdo:

hehe

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Beirdo:

yikes

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alc6379:

is there a specific ivtv channel that you guys are aware of?

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alc6379:

nm, #ivtv-dev sounds promising

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\Grooby\_:

hehehe

[03:50:00]

alc6379:

well, nvm there

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alc6379:

turns out that I was just plugging the speakers into the wrong jack!

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t00m:

nice work :)

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alc6379:

yeah, how the heck do you wire up those front audio jacks, anyways?

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alc6379:

that was the problem-- I wired them up, and then I could _only_ use them

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emes:

i'm moving my mythbackend to a new server. how can I copy the list of recorded programs?

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sphing:

mysqldump

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sphing:

dump the db into a file and then bring it into the new server

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t00m:

yay

[04:45:00]

t00m:

i got it compiling

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t00m:

stupid qt

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t00m:

goes crazy with make -j5

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t00m:

aeh

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t00m:

cc

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t00m:

whatever..

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Tanthrix:

Anyone here have problems with lirc periodically dropping out? Seems as at least once a day for a period of a few minutes my remote is dead.

[04:46:00]

t00m:

nope

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Tanthrix:

Just happened and I thought I would pop in to see if anyone else has had the same problem.

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t00m:

my remote seems to be active when i'm not there

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alc6379:

make -j5? How many procs we running?

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t00m:

or it's my flatmates...

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t00m:

alc6379: i had distcc running, so it was 2. but then i switched off distcc and forgot to decrease down to 2

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alc6379:

ahhh

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t00m:

quite stupid though

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t00m:

i mean, what's the problem in making -j5 on 1 cpu?

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sphing:

qt doesnt compile

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sphing:

thats the problem :)

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t00m:

right, but why?

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sphing:

i really couldn't begin to speculate

[04:49:00]

t00m:

me neither :)

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alc6379:

probably to many concurrent processes running

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alc6379:

*too many

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t00m:

next time something doesn't build, i'll try -j3 with distcc

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t00m:

i had that several times now that something broke while using distcc

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t00m:

i always assumed, that it's because one is amd and the other one is p3

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alc6379:

shouldn't be an issue

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t00m:

which shouldn't be a problem, of course

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sphing:

t00m: yea i've read building over diff archs causes issues unless handled carefully

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t00m:

i also assumed that it shouldn't be an issue building -j5..

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** sphing heads to bed **

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t00m:

it's the same version of gcc. i hope that's more important

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t00m:

gn8

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t00m:

excellent.. there goes the next one: distcc[23946] ERROR: compile (null) on localhost failed

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t00m:

now it's 'arts'

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alc6379:

gee whiz.

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alc6379:

this gentoo?

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t00m:

yes..

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Cardoe:

t00m: why are you doing stupid things/

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t00m:

i don't

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Cardoe:

you are.

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t00m:

what's wrong with distcc?

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alc6379:

I ended up turning distccd off, it never worked for me

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Cardoe:

configure your distcc correctly.

[04:59:00]

Cardoe:

second thing

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Cardoe:

arts... utter waste of time

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Cardoe:

turn that shit off

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Krazylegz:

distcc rocks.

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Krazylegz:

"Adds support for aRts: the KDE sound daemon" ?!?!

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t00m:

mythtv seems to depend on it

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Cardoe:

t00m: because you turned the damn USE flag on

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Cardoe:

Krazylegz: yes

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t00m:

let me check..

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Cardoe:

Krazylegz: your point

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t00m:

hm

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t00m:

let's say: i forgot to turn it off

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Cardoe:

no

[05:00:00]

Cardoe:

it's off by default.

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t00m:

no

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Cardoe:

yes it is

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t00m:

well

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Cardoe:

don't argue

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t00m:

it's not in make.conf

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Cardoe:

you pulled in a KDE lib

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t00m:

and that's the only file i chang

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t00m:

and i have -kde

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alc6379:

qt doesn't depend on it?

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Cardoe:

no

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Cardoe:

so add -arts

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t00m:

i did

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t00m:

just trying to figure out, where it was added

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Krazylegz:

Cardoe: Just funny that people add it.

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t00m:

ok, what's wrong with the distcc configuration?

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alc6379:

there's usually more errors before that say what might have done it

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alc6379:

usually they're not very helpful, though

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alc6379:

blah, logged out :S

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t00m:

:)

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redline-:

merry christmas day after!

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redline-:

riddle me this batman, I want a nice sound card for my myth box which one should I go after?

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t00m:

sb64

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Nothingman:

hi, all

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redline-:

heya

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jalex:

soundblaster 16 ISA

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redline-:

brilliant!

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Nothingman:

been having a strange problem with my sound; every time it records something, even LiveTV, I hear it through the speakers even when nothing's running, twice with LiveTV

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Nothingman:

the only way to stop it is to kill the PCM switch on the mixer

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redline-:

what version of myth yea using?

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Nothingman:

but that, of course, interferes with anything else I want to do regarding sound

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Nothingman:

18.1

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redline-:

and the driver for your tv card? is it ivtv?

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Nothingman:

bttb

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Nothingman:

*bttv*

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redline-:

could be the bttv driver, possible not releasing when its supposed to

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Nothingman:

but why would it come out the PCM?

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redline-:

18.1 is pretty stable and I would doubt it is myth

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redline-:

PCM controls all sound as far as I know it the master volume of sorts

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redline-:

it sounds to me (no pun intended) as if the audio/visual driver is not releasing correctly

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Nothingman:

the sound from the TV tuner is routed through the sound card's 'in' port

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Nothingman:

I still get all sound out of my second set of speakers

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redline-:

do you get sound with the cable disconnected from the sound card?

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Nothingman:

afraid to do it atm with it recording something

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Nothingman:

another problem I have is no thumbnails for video or images

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Nothingman:

in fact, images just plain don't show

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Nothingman:

video does, but that's through xine

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redline-:

permission issue?

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redline-:

check the dir where your video is installed and make sure you are part of the group?

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redline-:

btw these are all guess's

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Nothingman:

just changed perms to mythtv.mythtv

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Nothingman:

was nothingman.nothingman

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Nothingman:

still nothing

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sPiN:

w000t! just got my pvr 150 installed, trying to set it up now :)

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Nothingman:

and why aren't there special settings for bttv users, anyhow?

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redline-:

what are the file permissions ? 755?

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Nothingman:

I would swear the card has the ability to return MPEG straight-up

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redline-:

good luck sPIN

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Nothingman:

this might help: UIImageType::LoadImage() – Cannot find image: No Cover

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Nothingman:

perms are 666

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Nothingman:

rwxrwxrwx == 666, right?

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redline-:

777

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Nothingman:

OK

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Nothingman:

but still, I do know that's ample perms for myth to display those images

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redline-:

no cover could mean that there was no png cover created

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Nothingman:

but I can't view the image, either

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sPiN:

umm do i setup the pvr 150 as a standar v4l cap card or a mpeg2 encoder card?

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sPiN:

i see it has the pvr 250 and 350 listed for mpeg2 encoder, but not the 150

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redline-:

sPiN: did you insyall the ivtv driver yet?

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sPiN:

sure did

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sPiN:

.37c

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redline-:

i think its standard v4l

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sPiN:

thankd redline-

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Cardoe:

sPiN: .37c is way outdated

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Cardoe:

get 0.4.0 or 0.4.1

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redline-:

i would stick with 037 for now

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sPiN:

seems i read about trouble with .4

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redline-:

actually 038 was the most stable release to date I have used

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redline-:

i have a pvr 500

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sPiN:

ummm i remember reading to use the zap2it service in the docs, so i got an acct there

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redline-:

Nothingman: you cant view if you browse to it or open it in a program?

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sPiN:

but i dont see them in the list of video sources

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redline-:

data direct is zap2it

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sPiN:

ahh good good, thanks again redline-

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redline-:

np

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Cardoe:

redline-: why 037

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Cardoe:

it sucked

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Cardoe:

especially for pvr 150s

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redline-:

well 038

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Cardoe:

I'd like some justification

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Nothingman:

only in MythTV

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Cardoe:

let's see some facts here

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Cardoe:

other then crappy conjecture

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redline-:

037 I had troubles with but got to work and 038 was the best I had used

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redline-:

video was clear with no noise, there was no screen tearing, in 04 041 05 051 051(cvs) Ive had screen tearing

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redline-:

also 04–05 have noise in the picture ofr some reason and its not as clear as could be

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Cardoe:

that would be firmware

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redline-:

I am currently using 0.5.2 svn checkout 3053 which is stable with ok picture quality

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redline-:

i am using the same firmware just sim linked to different directories

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redline-:

I am by no means an expert on any of this, but i have put alot of time into it

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Nothingman:

sorry, scratch that

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Nothingman:

for some reason the total size of all the pics in that directory was 0

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redline-:

you may be missing a depndancy somewhere

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redline-:

what distro do you use?

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Nothingman:

OK, so now I've copied the original files to that directory, and still I get nothing

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sPiN:

i cant seem to find it in the docs, what was that cmd it said to use for testing the cap card?

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sPiN:

cat /dev/video0 blah.mpg?

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redline-:

cat /dev/video0 > test1.mpg

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redline-:

mplayer test1.mpg

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sPiN:

ohhh > thanks :)

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sPiN:

hrmmm well i have no /dev/video anything

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redline-:

video0?

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Nothingman:

got the images working now

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sPiN:

nope just vcs

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redline-:

permissions nothingman?

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sPiN:

the only v i have in /dev

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redline-:

how about /dev/v4l/0 ?

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sPiN:

nope, just vcs 0–10

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Nothingman:

yup

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Nothingman:

still nothing for video

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sPiN:

do i need to reboot after the ivtv?

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redline-:

you could try that

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Nothingman:

at least, for video thumbnails

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Nothingman:

using xine for playing them

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Nothingman:

anyone here have mplayer on ubuntu

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Nothingman:

?

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redline-:

I run gentoo

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redline-:

sPiN what encoder firmware revision are you running?

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sPiN:

not sure about that, how can i check

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redline-:

did you extract your own firmware or d/l it from an ivtv site?

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sPiN:

neither, i used suse and it downloaded it for me

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sPiN:

it said it was 'download ivtv firmware'

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t00m:

arrrrrrghl

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t00m:

* Qt is missing MySQL support. Please add

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t00m:

* 'mysql' to your USE flags, and re-emerge Qt.

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redline-:

lol that suck t00m

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t00m:

but i HAVE it already

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t00m:

in my use flags..

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Nothingman:

how do I remove listings for programs I've already deleted the files for by hand?

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redline-:

sPin not sure how to find out otherwise, just make sure its loading when the driver starts up

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Trimble:

Hi all

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redline-:

after a reboot type dmesg | more and look for ===========Begin IVTV===========

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redline-:

Nothingman that has to be removed manually from the database

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redline-:

my suggestion is phpmyadmin

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sPiN:

i just did lsmod and i see lots of ivtv and bttv

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sPiN:

v4l2_common

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redline-:

typed the dmesg command

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redline-:

or in 2 console windows: 1 tail -f /var/log/messages 2 modprobe ivtv

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sPiN:

it says START INIT IVTV

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redline-:

look for error information in there

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sPiN:

kobject_register failed for tveeprom (-17) is the only error i see

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Trimble:

I'm a TOTAL linux n00b. Can someone recommend some place I can go to begin learning enough to work on MythTV? I have aquired all the equipment I need to build one.. :(

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sPiN:

knoppmyth might be a good option if you just want a dedicated linux box

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sPiN:

err mythbox

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Trimble:

that's what I want.. a dedicated box. I downloaded knoppmyth, burned the CD, wiped the machine and installed it... it came up, for the most part, but it didn't seem to find the network card or the tv card.

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Trimble:

the machine is a HP/compaq corporate type box with a ATI tv wonder card in it.

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Trimble:

i don't have a vga->tv convertor yet, but it can use a monitor for now.

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sPiN:

seems like i read some very band things about ati AIW cards cap abilities

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sPiN:

BAD even

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Trimble:

it is NOT an AIW card. it's a TV wonder card.

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Trimble:

the mythtv dox specifically state that AIW cards are fucked, but TVwonder cards are ok

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Trimble:

it says that "The TV Wonder series of cards are supported by the Bt8x8 Video4Linux driver." but I don't know what that means.

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Trimble:

i think knoppmyth dox said that it supports some type of card 'out of the box', but obviously not mine :(

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Trimble:

so, i assume I need to tweak it. I'm willing to go learn linux to fix this, but I just need a nudge in the right direction.

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sPiN:

well theres not a like an one stop shop for taht

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sPiN:

you dont really do it by reading so much as by using linux a lot and getting better over time

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sPiN:

http://www.sloppycode.net/nix/

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sPiN:

here is a cmd line cheat sheet

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Trimble:

thank you :)

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Trimble:

i guess my first trick is learning how to make sure the drivers for my tv card are loading.

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Trimble:

and my network card.

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sPiN:

at cmd line you can do a --help after a cmd to find out the switches and you can get detailed help with: man somecmdhere

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sPiN:

not sure which firmware i should download.. i just downloaded and compiled ivtv .4

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sPiN:

.4.1 actually

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sPiN:

it said detected cx25841

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sPiN:

im getting a failed to load firmware, i got the firmware, but i dont know where to put it

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so_:

sPiN, mythtv wiki

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sPiN:

i think i just figured it out, rebooting now

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so_:

http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Firmware

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sPiN:

thx so, i hadnt been to that wiki yet, i was on the ivtv firmware page

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sPiN:

yeah that one

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so_:

I think the big things are what is the filename based on your version and what is the FIRMWARE_DIR in the congss

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so_:

configs

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sPiN:

im on 2.6.13 and do not have hotplug

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so_:

ivtv version

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sPiN:

.4.1

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so_:

that's what I mean, in 4.1 they changed the firmware filenames a bit, and you need to put the firels in the firght directory is all :)

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so_:

files in the right :)

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so_:

man typing is bad tonight

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sPiN:

the 2 bin files were in /lib/modules, but i dont think they go there

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sPiN:

i dont have that firmware.agent file anywhere on my machine

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so_:

as long as you set the FIRMWARE_DIR to /lib/modules it is probably okay

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sPiN:

i put them in /lib/modules/2.6.13–15.7-default/ivtv

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sPiN:

im running suse 10, no idea were that would be set

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so_:

it's not a kernel thing

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sPiN:

well they were in /lib/modules and i still get failed to load in the dmesg for those, but it did load the other pieces

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sPiN:

err firmware parts, the .roms

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so_:

no hotplug = /lib/modules hotplug means that the firmware.agent file can set the location

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so_:

weird

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sPiN:

ohh wait i misread the error, perhaps it did load those, but i have an error about vl-cx2341x-enc.fw

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sPiN:

i see a v4l-cx2341x-init-mpeg.bin in the ivtv-0.4.1 dir where i compiled ivtv....

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abarbaccia:

hey all – anybody look at ivtv 4.1? If someone can look at the changelog and let me know if i have to rename the firmware files it'd be greatly appreciated! thanks again.

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sPiN:

http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Firmware

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Cardoe:

abarbaccia: you do... read the info

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abarbaccia:

Cardoe, in the change log?

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sPiN:

www.phpfi.com/93301

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sPiN:

that is the error i get about loading the firmware

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abarbaccia:

and if so – shouldnt the ivtvfwextract.pl be modified to change the name of the files upon extraction?

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sPiN:

OHH DUH :(

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sPiN:

i read that the file names had changed, but my braind didnt process it

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sPiN:

its 2:45AM here

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Cardoe:

abarbaccia: go read the info

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sPiN:

so do i have to restart again? or is there someway i can reload the ivtv drivers

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sPiN:

rmmod says they are in use

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t00m:

i've got a problem with my grub after moving from IDE1 to the ATA100 bus

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t00m:

argh

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t00m:

might not be grub but the kernel

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t00m:

*doh*

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t00m:

VFS

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t00m:

cannot open root device hde1 or unknown-block(0,0)

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t00m:

maybe i have to compile a new kernel that supports the ata100 thingy :/

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Cardoe:

sPiN: turn off myth

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Cardoe:

kormoc: ping me when you get a chance

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sPiN:

dont have any myth stuff running

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sPiN:

someone before said that the .fw's go in /lib/modules, but this is still not working for me

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sPiN:

i get same error as in the paste i linked a moment ago

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sPiN:

i have /lib/modules/2.4.etc/ivtv though

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sPiN:

perhaps i should put them there

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sPiN:

bah :( restart #10

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